[6:01] >>  well, good morning,
everyone.
[6:05] they  changed our mic. System
jethon.
[6:06] jethon.
Well.
[6:10] well.
[6:13] >> yeah, so thank y ou for
2022-06-15t09:00:51.9579036-04:00
[6:18] 2022-06-15t09:00:51.9579036-04:00
let's stand and salute the
flag.
[6:21] >> I pledge allegiance to the
[6:23] flag of the united states of
[6:23] america and to the republic
nation
[6:36] nation
under god, indivisible, with
[6:40] liberty and justice for all.
Do we h ave any additions,
[6:44] do we h ave any additions,
corrections or  deletions?
[6:48] >> good m orning, we have one
today.
[6:50] >> just o ne.
>> just o ne.
[6:55] it's going to b e an add on,
16  of your agenda.
[7:01] 16  of your agenda.
The item  number will be s as
[7:06] is  sam 9, s9, county clerk
audit s election committee the
[7:09] audit s election committee the
authorize a n egotiating team
[7:10] consisting  of a sdig gnat
from
[7:13] the county attorney's o ffice
clerk to  negotiate a fixed
[7:18] clerk to  negotiate a fixed
contract  with the top ranked
[7:24] contract  with the top ranked
firm, rsmusllp in a ccordance
[7:29] with  section 218 .3914a,
florida statutes, I f for any
[7:32] reason the  negotiations are
unsuccessful with t he top
[7:32] rank
firm, authorization to
[7:35] negotiate a contract  with the
second  rank firm, cherry
[7:39] baker
llp, and that w as an add-on
[7:39] to
today's jep da.
[7:42] >>  okay, and that's it toda.
>> that's it.
[7:46] >> so,  if it hadn't been for
a
[7:47] a
perfect agenda, r ight.
>> yes, s ir.
[7:54] I believe t he county attorney
wanted  to delete item k1 fr
[7:59] the agenda which  is on page 9.
We  got dismissed suits.
[8:03] we  got dismissed suits.
>> page 9 , delete closed
[8:06] session,  we do not penalize
[8:09] deletions by  the way, only
>>  okay.
[8:14] >>  okay.
>>  that is echoing.
[8:17] >> is t he audience, can you
these l iltsbacker little
[8:22] these l iltsbacker little
speakers?
No?
[8:28] it's us, can  you turn the
or  no?
[8:32] or  no?
>> can  we do it ourselves?
>>  [inaudible].
[8:35] >>  okay.
>> mayor, may w e have a
[8:37] motion
the a pprove the additions,
corrections and d eletions?
[8:41] >> yes, as soon as we g et the
[8:42] speaker problem --
>>  move the approve.
>> second.
[8:44] er
>>  we have a m otion ask a
[8:46] second, the a genda is
.
[8:48] .
>> okay,  we have some awards
[8:53] >> okay,  we have some awards
today.
[8:57] >> sir, wliel y ou are  coming
er
[8:59] er
>> you bet.
.
[9:03] er that will be o n page 2,
[9:10] item b-1, p resentation of
years o f service award in
[9:14] recognition of 15 y ears of
service t o adam kasprzak,
[9:33] electrical  inspector slb
plans
examiner, m onroe county
[9:38] building  department.
>>  good morning, mr. Mayor
[9:41] and
commissioners, it g ives me
[9:45] great p leasure the award adam
[9:48] his 1 5 year pin.
Typical one b ut a truly
[9:52] typical one b ut a truly
from  eastern europe via
[9:57] from  eastern europe via
california and  serves us
[9:59] daily
as an e lectrical inspector
[10:00] from ocean  reef to stock
[10:03] island.
Service.
[10:25] service.
>> thank  you.
[applause].
[10:36] [applause].
>> thank you so m uch.
[10:39] >>  congratulations, thank you
for your  service.
[10:41] >> okay,  mayor, your next
item
[10:45] is on p age 3, item b-2,
[10:52] presentation of years o f
service award for 1 5 years of
[10:57] service t o lisa tennyson,
director  of legislative
affairs.
[11:00] >>  I'm holding the mic. And
[11:01] your pin  too and I've been
to
[11:03] to
tell you, this  is just an hon
[11:07] new york  city I knew you when
[11:09] I was with  the city of
marathon  and always admired
[11:13] your work,  then when I move
[11:14] today the c ounty and have had
[11:14] this  opportunity to work with
all
[11:18] all
the information you h ave and
[11:22] then  when I joined the small
county coalition  and saw the
[11:26] utmost  respect that you have
with  the small county
[11:28] coalition and w ith the
florida
[11:29] association of counties a nd
how m uch the entire state
[11:34] relies on y ou and your
expertise, I'm  just so
[11:37] honored
that  you're here in our
county
[11:40] and that you  help us with our
[11:43] legislative decisions, so
thank you and this  is an
[11:47] honor
for m e.
[11:49] >> that's so  nice, thank you
so much.
[11:53] er
>> and, lease   -- lisa, bhiel
[11:55] you're  being pinned there,
literally I hope, l et me say
[11:59] literally I hope, l et me say
[12:01] I'm shocked I t's only 15
years, it s eems like a
[12:06] lifetime.
>> [laughter].
Er
[12:08] >>   I concur.
>> I  want to say thank you,
[12:13] it's  been a pleasure and a
[12:15] honor, a pleasure most of t he
[12:16] time  and an honor, I love
serve thing county  and the
[12:20] board and I  have so much
well
[12:21] well
and roman of  course, it's
[12:24] great w orking for him, he's
[12:28] been  an awesome mentor and he
[12:34] really knows  his stuff and
[13:04] that's why I  know my stuff,
[applause].
[13:09] [applause].
>>  alright.
>> okay,  before we move on,
[13:14] holly has asked f or a moment,
so you have a m oment.
[13:18] >> yes, j ust really fast,
thank y ou, mr. Mayor, I
[13:22] wanted
to  recognize the joy group,
[13:25] the just  ogler youth, they
were  responsible for our
[13:30] pre-meeting e ntertainment,
their y aouk lay lee group was
[13:32] amazing, it's wonderful t o
[13:34] walk into w ork and have that
you all so  much.
[13:40] you all so  much.
>> yeah, great  job.
[13:44] >> then I  want to recognize
representing  us in
[13:47] representing  us in
tallahassee
[13:50] at boy's  state, take note of
probably recommend  us, so
[13:55] probably recommend  us, so
touch.
[13:55] touch.
Being h ere.
[13:58] being h ere.
[applause].
>>  okay.
[14:02] commissioner coldiron is
going
to  be reading bulk.
[14:08] >> I  just can't tell you ho
[14:11] excited I a m about this, bulk
[14:12] items are normally  of a
routine nature and have b een
[14:15] reyou viewed  by each
commissioner  prior to meet, I
[14:18] will  read the agenda item
number  of those items
[14:22] proposed
to be p assed in bulk, if a
[14:24] commissioner, staff m ember or
any member  of the public
[14:27] wishes that item to b e with
[14:27] h el, please indicate at the
it
[14:30] it
[14:34] will  be held aside.
[14:46] I mrao  uf the following
be  approved in bulk.
[14:56] be  approved in bulk.
C-1,  2, 3, 4, 5, 6, c7,
[15:08] 10, 11  , 12, c13 --
[15:15] >> homed.
[15:25] er
[15:36] >>  c14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19,
[15:40] 20, 21,  d1, we're going to
[15:43] hold  f1, bulk f2, 3, 4,,
[15:43] moving  on to page 8, I,
holding?
[15:47] holding?
>>  j2, hold, j3d hold 2 or
[15:51] >>  j2, hold, j3d hold 2 or
>> 3.
[15:55] >>  go back to I, you ou
me.
[15:59] >> you want m e to go to I
again?
[16:03] >>  yeah.
>>  okay, i1, 2, 3, 4.
[16:06] >> thank  you.
I'll  start j over again.
[16:10] I'll  start j over again.
J1  --
[16:14] >> you're h olding.
[16:17] >> j2,  j3 --
[16:23] >> hold.
>>  h old.
[16:34] >>  h old.
[16:47] j4, j5, , j6.
[16:59] >> l1,,  next page, m-1, n1,
[17:02] 2,
o7, 8 , 9, 10, 11, 12, 13,
[17:12] o7, 8 , 9, 10, 11, 12, 13,
[17:20] o14,
>> hold 1 .
[17:28] >> hold 1 .
P2, 3 , 4, 5, 6, 7, --
[17:45] p2, 3 , 4, 5, 6, 7, --
>> hold 7 .
[17:54] >>  8, 9, 10,, p11, 12.
[18:07] s1, 2 - -
>> you're r ight.
[18:14] >> you're r ight.
>>  3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 and 9
[18:19] and that is I t.
>> and  do we have a motio?
[18:25] >> so moved.
>> second.
[18:27] >> thank  you, the agenda is
call  the first item, please.
[18:31] call  the first item, please.
Er
[18:35] >>  yes,  sir, let's go to
page
[18:39] 5 because we have a  couple of
approximate, item c13,
[18:43] approximate, item c13,
approval of of  a contract
[18:44] between monroe county b oard
of
[18:46] county  commissioners, monroe
county social s ervices and
[18:49] the
coordinator guidance care
[18:51] coordinator guidance care
center inc.  For  the contract
[18:56] period  of july 1, 2022 to
june
[18:59] 30, 2023.
This is a  a non-monetary
[19:01] partnership c ollaboration
contract required by the
state
[19:05] of florida commissioned f or
the transportation
disadvantaged.
[19:09] >> call the roll, p lease.
>>  move to approve.
[19:13] >>  move to approve.
>>  second.
>>  commissioner cates?
[19:18] >>  yes.
>> commissioner coldiron?
>> yes.
[19:20] >> commissioner r aschein?
>>  yes.
>> commissioner scholl?
[19:24] >>  yes.
>> abstaining with  a conflict.
[19:28] >> abstaining with  a conflict.
Er
[19:32] >> okay, do w e want to go
[19:34] ahead and g o too the 9:15 so
in on t he zoom?
[19:36] in on t he zoom?
.
Er we can do  that.
[19:40] >> that will  be on page 6,
amended a nd restated
[19:44] amended a nd restated
interlocal  agreement between
[19:46] monroe county land authority
and t he monroe county board
[19:48] of
county commissioners
regarding
[19:50] the administration of l and
acquisition and management
programs.
[19:56] >> do we have a m otion?
>> so m oved.
[20:00] >>  I thought christine wanted
to speak about  it.
[20:03] >> I  do.
Good morning.
[20:08] >>  you are coming in by z
room for you.
[20:12] room for you.
>>  sorry about that.
[20:15] good morning.
>> for  f1 this morning, I
[20:20] need
make it w ith a change and the
[20:26] make it w ith a change and the
[20:29] change we n eed to make is on
[20:33] page  2 under programs, roman
[20:35] numeral I and w e need to
program w as established by
[20:45] program w as established by
bocc  resolutions 175-2018 and
[20:49] amended b y bocc resolutions
438-2018  and 063-2020 please.
[20:53] we  have amended those and
those a re no longer
[20:57] applicable.
>> okay, do we have a  motion
[20:59] for approval  with those
changes?
[21:02] >> mayor, I  amend my motion
with  whatever christine said.
[21:07] with  whatever christine said.
So  moved.
[21:07] >>  I kind of thought it mi
er
[21:12] er
>> and I'm  second it.
[21:15] >> we h ave a second.
>> thank  you.
[21:19] >> did we g et a second, I'm
sorry?
[21:23] >> yes, s ir, we did.
>>  we did, fine.
[21:27] okay, any o pposition?
If  not, the motion stands
[21:35] approved.
One staff r eport before the
[21:42] one staff r eport before the
[21:45] 9:25, I d on't see mr.  Ki
airports, a irports director
[21:49] airports, a irports director
mr. Stickland, department
[22:07] update.
>>  good morning, jethon's
[22:10] going to  pull something up
real  quick.
[22:14] >>  so, g oods morning, mayor,
good morning, commission,
[22:16] this
is just one of  those updates
[22:19] from a  department and this
will  be on key west
[22:22] international airport and
later this  year, aisle bring
[22:24] a
xhaoet  update on marathon
[22:27] airport as well,  as we go
through t he presentation,
[22:32] please feel free  to ask any
questions that  you might
[22:35] have,
so there we g o, so the
[22:36] overall
management and  operations and
[22:37] development, this gives y ou
an
[22:39] overview of how t he
management
[22:42] team  there stays educated --
>> can  we get that either o
[22:45] the t elevisions or we're
to have to  turn around or
[22:54] to have to  turn around or
[22:58] come
>> there we g o.
[23:03] >> there we g o.
The faa, the  u.s. Department
[23:08] the faa, the  u.s. Department
of homeland s ecurity, working
[23:11] with  finance and
administration items,
[23:13] planning, d esign and
construction, lighting  and
[23:16] maintenance a nd airfield
operations and  following the
[23:19] best  practices from these
entities as w e continue to
[23:23] develop your management t eam
with the airport, as  far as
[23:27] operationally, we do  the
airport facilities
maintenance
[23:30] which is all the  upgrades of
airfield  through the faa
[23:35] airfield  through the faa
such, airport operations  is
[23:37] such, airport operations  is
safety of m ovement of the
[23:42] safety of m ovement of the
aircraft, airfield security,
[23:47] why w ould life management,
[23:49] airfield  inspections, fueling
the faa g uidance, we maintain
[23:55] the faa g uidance, we maintain
related to  all the aircraft,
[24:00] related to  all the aircraft,
airfield management I s safety
[24:03] areas, pavement m aintenance,
new c onstruction, perimeter
[24:06] inspections,  your regulatory
requirements, we  are probably
[24:09] your  most regulated overall
department  in the county.
[24:11] I think t he staff there at
[24:13] key
west does a n out stampeder
job
[24:18] of  following all those reck
[24:19] -- regulations we have to d o,
[24:21] we go through a n umber of
[24:24] different reviews every year
with  these agencies, all to
[24:29] earn  the license and
certifications that w e learn.
[24:32] since my  employment with the
county and running  the key
[24:39] west airport  there, we have
[24:42] shifted a ll of the training
all t he aarf personnel which
[24:48] all t he aarf personnel which
fire fighting personnel,   as
[24:54] fire fighting personnel,   as
we  all know, structure fire
[24:59] training  is different than
arff  training, arff train
[25:03] ising t o save people's lives
on  the aircraft which is
[25:07] different t han the training
tla the n ormal firefighters
[25:10] that  would go through with
structural training kls to
[25:12] protect the s tructure and
save
[25:13] lives, it's a  different
program
[25:18] program
does an o utstanding job of
[25:22] training  our fine men and
young w omen that go through
[25:27] the p rogram at dfw and they
[25:28] bring that talent b ack to key
[25:30] west  for the overall safety
for a ll the passengers that
[25:32] travel through and it I s
quite
[25:34] the e xtensive program we've
been  running them through,
[25:37] tla's been  for about three
years n ow.
[25:40] her's w hat we're trying to
earn, t he annual
[25:43] certification
and inspection, so  we get a
[25:46] license f rom the state to
continue  operating the
[25:49] airfield  in the airport and
we
[25:51] also get  certification from
the f aa every year through
[25:54] all
the inspections they do w hich
[25:56] is largely  all of my great
[25:57] staff back  there at the
all
[26:01] all
of  your administrative type
[26:02] things and  planning and
design
[26:05] things, I d o not run the
and t here's a phenomenal
[26:09] and t here's a phenomenal
amount of p eople that are
[26:13] there doing t hat for you all
on  a day-to-day point.
[26:18] some of t he key points in the
[26:19] annual inspection are r elated
to the  emas, the lighting,
[26:22] the
markings, the arff, it's  a
lot
[26:25] of stuff  that we do, ramp
control operations, this is
[26:29] one of  the biggest changes
that happened,  I know the
[26:34] mayor and I  have many times
[26:35] talked about this b ecause we
everywhere the  year after
[26:38] everywhere the  year after
covid, there were s o many
[26:42] planes  on the ground, the
communication b reakdowns were
[26:45] plentiful,  we took over ramp
control so  that the staff
[26:48] that
you have  there running
[26:51] day-to-day  are talking
directly  to the pilots and
[26:54] is  smoothed everything out,
everything  is running nicely
[26:57] now, we don't h ave the
significant delays we w ere
[27:01] having so I t is a big change
[27:04] but it's working  well, the
[27:06] other change that I w anted to
[27:08] comment on, you k now we all
[27:09] changed over  tsa and the tsa
federalized facility that I s
[27:13] federalized facility that I s
working o ut very well,
[27:16] everything  is running very
smoothly  and it was the right
[27:19] change to d o.
Just a  little bit of an
[27:23] update
on some o f the eyw projects
[27:27] other than  concourse a, the
noise insulation  program,
[27:30] this
[27:33] phase was c ompleted october
2021, 4 .9 million dollars, it
[27:39] 2021, 4 .9 million dollars, it
phase h ere, 5.4 million, the
[27:44] phase h ere, 5.4 million, the
estimated completion date,
[27:45] september of 2022, once
again,
[27:47] 100% faa funded for the noise
[27:50] program, both of  those got
100% funding because of t he
[27:55] events that c ame out of covid
[27:56] is  why they were 100% funded.
Million,  the facilities
[28:02] million,  the facilities
maintenance deck that w e put
[28:06] in, I t's 14 feet above flood
level, 200  per mile wind
[28:09] code,
it gives us a p lace to store
[28:11] all o f the maintenance
equipment that  runs key west
[28:14] airport if  you're sitting
there wondering where a ll
[28:15] that
equipment was before, it was
[28:18] down in t he mud and the
significant rain events a nd
[28:22] significant rain events a nd
those things and  it was
[28:24] getting rusted and  broken all
[28:26] the t ime and you  f now we
store that  quim.
[28:30] store that  quim.
Customs a nd border
protection,
[28:34] we've g one through the
renovations of  this with the
[28:39] u.s.  Department of homeland
security  and all their
[28:45] standards,  phase 3 completed
june of 2 022 at 4.7 million
[28:50] and will  begin phase 4 in the
[28:51] fall and  winter of this yea.
Fuel farm r oadway, those of
[28:55] you that have b een out there
[28:56] recently, y ou have seen them
working to  get this project
[29:01] done, t otal project cost,
about 3.8 m illion with an
[29:05] estimated completion  in
september o f 2022.
[29:09] left over o verflow parking,
this was  on the airfield with
[29:14] 6.9 m illion with an estimated
completion  of april, 2023.
[29:16] taxi  way alpha, we heard
about
[29:18] this project  exhaustively
because it's tied o f what
[29:22] we're trying to d o with the
missile s tressing, that's
[29:27] about a 9  million dollar
program w ith an estimation o
[29:31] october,  2023, and your
overall g rant funding is 41
[29:36] million d ollars of your
investment  back into your
[29:41] airport a nd has all been over
2022, n ot including concourse
[29:44] 2022, n ot including concourse
a.
>> that's h uge.
[29:49] >> that's I t, other than -- I
[29:52] forkt, there's your t eam of
people  that are constantly
[29:55] working a t the airport every
day w hich is why you
[29:57] typically
only see me at  the board
[29:59] meetings and not any  of the
all
[30:01] all
very much a nd if you've got
[30:05] any questions, please let me
know.
>> questions?
[30:10] >> mr.  Mayor, I don't have a
thank r ichard publicly here
[30:15] thank r ichard publicly here
and his team  did a
[30:16] professional job getting  me
up
[30:18] to  speed on concourse a and
there, richard, I  appreciate
[30:22] there, richard, I  appreciate
it, that  was very well done
[30:24] and you h ave a great team
[30:25] over
>> thank  you.
[30:30] >> thank  you.
>> a  lot of things happening.
[30:35] and we thank  you for that
and w e'll get there.
[30:39] and w e'll get there.
>> we will  and I'll be back
[30:42] with  an update later on the
year.
[30:43] >> thank  you.
>> next I tem.
[30:47] >>  your next item is your
land
authority.
[30:52] >>  okay.
Let me  find the right page,
[30:57] what  page?
>> that I s -- that starts o
[31:02] page  6.
>>  okay.
Well, w e will adjourn the
[31:05] meeting o f the monroe county
board of  county commissioners
[31:13] and c onvene the meeting of
the
[31:16] land  authority governing
board.
>> commissioner cates?
[31:19] >>  here.
>> commissioner c oldiron?
>>  here.
[31:22] >> commissioner raschein?
>>  here.
>> commissioner scholl?
[31:27] >>  here.
>> chairman r ice?
>> present.
[31:36] >>  thank you, dina.
>>  good morning, agenda item
[31:40] g1 is a pproval of the minutes
[31:41] for t he may 18, 2022 meeting.
>> do w e have a motion?
[31:44] >>  move to approve.
>>  second.
[31:46] >> we have  a motion and a
the I tem is approved.
[31:51] the I tem is approved.
>> g2,  there's no need for a
[31:55] motion  but it's the monroe
executive d irector monthly
[31:59] executive d irector monthly
report  for may 2022 through
[32:04] april 30, 2 022.
>> g3 --
[32:06] >>  wait a minute, wait a
minute.
[32:10] I just  wanted to make a
read
[32:13] read
[32:16] your report and I  wanted to
[32:19] share with  everyone an item
that I  pulled out of it.
[32:24] there's a  cumulative total in
there w hen this report is p
[32:27] together which reflects how
much  money we have spent
[32:30] really  over the history of
the
[32:34] entire program  I presume on
various items I mportant to
[32:39] monroe county,  and I did
happen to n otice that since
[32:42] the beginning and w hen was
[32:46] the
>> 1988 I s the beginning of
[32:53] >> 1988 I s the beginning of
the r eporting.
[32:58] >>  okay, 1988, the land
authority  using very sources
[33:07] of funding  and one tof major
[33:10] sources of  funding for that
[33:12] land  purchasing is one-half
penny o f our bed tax, it has
[33:17] purchased a  total of 50
million d ollars worth of land
[33:19] for a ffordable housing, so,
we
[33:23] all know how  important that
[33:26] is
to us,  we all know that we'r
[33:31] behind the  8 ball on it, but
huge contribution t owards the
[33:35] huge contribution t owards the
development o f affordable
housing.
[33:37] we tend to  make that
available
[33:41] to  various developers because
affordable  housing or not, if
[33:46] affordable  housing or not, if
financial h elp on a project,
[33:50] financial h elp on a project,
cost
[33:54] cost
that allows y ou to rent it
[33:58] within  the affordable range,
so, christine and [ inaudible]
[34:01] and everyone, d ina, everyone
who's had anything to d o with
[34:05] that, I t hink we all owe you
a
[34:08] big t hanks.
>>  mr. Mayor, and if we
[34:11] add t hat the bed tax money,
>> yes.
[34:12] >> yes.
Er
[34:16] >>  a nd that's tdc and I'm
not
[34:21] tdc spokesperson but  I know
when  everyone complains about
[34:25] how b usy our tourism is, it's
[34:28] -- and  they say what do y
[34:33] all do  with that tdc money,
[34:36] it's nice to be a ble to say
[34:38] here's one  tof things that's
[34:39] done  with the tdc funds, it'
shaking his h ead.
[34:42] shaking his h ead.
>> it's a  different tax than
[34:45] the tdc tax b ut it is imposed
the same  way.
[34:47] >> okay.
>> it I s a bed tax.
[34:49] >> it I s a bed tax.
.
[34:53] inger it is p aid by tourists
so  that is 100% accurate.
[34:56] >> okay, thank you for  the
[34:58] education.
>> well, thank you  for that
comment.
[35:04] christine,  proceed.
>>  okay, so on g3, aisle r
[35:10] that and then I  do need to
[35:13] make the  same change that we
of  the second amended and
[35:16] of  the second amended and
restated  interlocal agreement
[35:18] between m onroe county land
authority and t he monroe
[35:21] county  board of county
commissioners regarding t he
[35:25] administration of l and
acquisition a nd management
[35:27] programs.
And the change that w e need
to
[35:33] make  is on page 2 of the
[35:38] agreement u nder programs,
roman numeral I,  and we need
[35:48] to  eliminate the sentence the
program w as established by
[35:53] bocc  resolution 175-2018 and
amended b y bocc resolutions
[35:56] 438-2018 and  063-2020.
>> do we  have a motion with
[35:59] those a mendments?
>> so m oved, mr. Mayor, with
[36:05] what christine  said.
>>  second.
>> any  opposition?
[36:10] the I tem is approved.
>> next  item?
[36:16] >> item g4 is approval to add
[36:19] block 1 , and lots 8 and 9,
[36:20] amended plat  of the ladies
as  potential affordable
[36:24] as  potential affordable
housing s ites and to amend
[36:28] the
affordable housing
eligibility
[36:30] criteria in t he acquisition
environmentally
[36:37] environmentally
[36:41] sensitive land  and reference
601.1.11.
[36:48] 601.1.11.
This is n eeded for us to
[36:51] purchase  the parcels in item
for
[36:54] for
affordable housing, the other
[36:57] part of t hat parcel is
conservation.
[37:03] >> move the approve.
[37:08] >>  second.
G4 is a pproved.
[37:14] g4 is a pproved.
>> g5 I s an approval of a
[37:19] contract  to purchase block 1,
[37:20] lots  8 and 9, amended plat o
[37:24] ladies  acre, little torch key
for affordable  housing and
[37:29] the
adjoining a k raj parcel,
[37:30] parcel  I.d.00113230 for
conservation, little  torch
key
[37:33] near mile marker 28.
>> a  motion?
[37:39] >>  move to approve.
>> any  objections?
[37:45] >> any  objections?
Have any  objection to taking
[37:50] have any  objection to taking
[37:54] items 6-9 t ogether?
I h ear no objection, so why
[37:58] don't we do t hat.
>> okay,  I'll read them all
[38:07] >> g6, approval of  a contract
for conservation-parcel o o f
[38:12] for conservation-parcel o o f
an  unrecorded plat, parcel
[38:15] I.d.  Number 00113320-001500,
little torch  key near mile
[38:20] marker 28, g7,  approval of a
property for
[38:23] property for
conservation-block 1, l ot 25,
[38:27] largo city, k ey largo near
mile marker 1 04.
[38:32] g8, approval  of a contract to
[38:36] purchase property within  the
conservation-block  2, lot 14,
[38:40] conservation-block  2, lot 14,
block 10, l ots 6 and 7, block
[38:45] 13, l ots 1-6, 12 and 13,
crains subdivision, grassy
[38:50] key
near  mile marker 58.
[38:53] g9, approval of a  contract to
conservation-block 2, l ots
[38:57] conservation-block 2, l ots
10,
[39:00] 11, 1 2, 14 and 15, ocean
mile
[39:04] mile
marker  30.
[39:06] >> do we  have a motion for
approval of 6 -9?
[39:13] >> so m oved.
>>  second.
[39:19] >> we h ave a motion and a
second, any o bjections?
[39:23] item  6-9 are approved.
By the  way, that represents a
[39:27] lot of land , thanks for all
the hard work.
[39:32] >>  yes.
And a l ot of land and some o
[39:36] which will be sold  to the
state in  the near future.
[39:40] like  the next one, g10,
approving the o ption
[39:41] approving the o ption
[39:45] agreement
pre-acquired florida  forever
[39:52] pre-acquired florida  forever
land  described by metes and
[39:56] bounds, parcel  I.d. Number
00108530-000100 on  no name
[39:59] key
to the  board of trustees of
[40:01] the I nternal improvement
trust
fund, authorizing t he
[40:03] chairman
to execute  same and
[40:08] authorizing the chairman  to
execute the d eed and
[40:12] associated closing  documents.
>> do w e have a motion?
[40:16] >>  move to approve.
>>  second.
>> any  objections?
[40:24] item  10 is approved.
>> item g 11, approval of a
[40:29] resolution committing a p
additional 571  thousand 330
[40:31] dollars I n construction
funding t o the monroe county
[40:34] housing authority for t he
lower k eys scattered sites
[40:38] affordable housing
development.
>> do we  have a motion?
[40:43] >>  move to approve.
>>  second.
[40:46] >> we have  a motion and a
second, h earing no
[40:50] objections,
g11 is  approved, and I would
[40:53] like to b ack up a couple of
[40:55] items and e xplain something
that  christine mentioned and
[40:59] explain it a  little more in
public  needs to understand
[41:04] public  needs to understand
that  aspect.
[41:06] christine mentioned that some
of the  land that we just
[41:10] acquired will be sold t o the
[41:13] state.
The s tate has certain chunks
[41:17] of  land down here that they
[41:18] have in w hat they call the
[41:19] florida forever program,
correct me  at any point when
[41:23] I
deviate f rom the truth,
christine.
[41:26] generally they've had 5
million dollars a y ear to
[41:31] purchase  land in those
designated  areas.
[41:34] as a  general rule, they have
[41:36] not been able t o do that.
Because
[41:39] because
inside  of monroe county to
[41:43] inside  of monroe county to
them, close t hem and the
[41:48] them, close t hem and the
usual
[41:55] routine that  anyone goes
through purchasing land, so
[42:00] they have n ot spent that 5
christine's come on board
[42:02] christine's come on board
the present j ob, she has with
[42:08] the present j ob, she has with
relationship  with the state
[42:13] relationship  with the state
and p roposed that we purchase
[42:16] the l and, then they buy it
from  us.
[42:19] they  have a problem
purchasing
[42:23] land and  if I understand it
correctly,  that problem is
[42:29] that by s tatute, they can
only
[42:33] pay t he appraised price, not
if  I'm right, christine,
[42:37] thank
you, okay,  frequently we find
[42:42] the seller  won't sell it for
the a ppraised price because
[42:47] it
runs  behind market value, so
[42:49] on the average, we pay, what,
sometimes?
[42:50] sometimes?
>> yes.
>> it varies  with the land
[42:55] and
with  the seller, but let's
say
[43:06] it's 20%  over the price the
[43:09] state can pay, we b uy the
[43:11] land, we  then turn around,
[43:11] sell it t o the state or what
[43:13] they can  pay for it which is
that
[43:17] that
money, put  it back into our
[43:21] acquisition f und to buy more
a
[43:24] a
result  of that, I'm pretty
[43:27] sure at the e nd of the year,
5
[43:30] 5
property  in monroe county if
[43:35] property  in monroe county if
christine has anything to d o
[43:40] with  it.
Did I  miss anything importan
there,  christine?
[43:43] >> no,  that's a great smran
at
[43:47] at
dep are r eally I think
excited
[43:51] about the way t his is
unrolling.
[43:53] I hope by the e nd of this
million,
[43:56] million,
[43:57] but I know  by the end of n
[44:01] year, we  will.
>> good, thank you very m uch.
[44:05] yeah, I  think that is a ver
[44:07] innovative  approach to that
problem a nd I think you
[44:10] should
be commended  along with your
[44:13] staff f or making that happen.
Any other business for  the
[44:17] land authority?
>> mr.  Mayor?
>>  yes?
[44:18] >> if I  might, I want to
thank
[44:22] both  christine and emily for
coming and  giving the
[44:26] presentation to t he middle
keys realtors, just l ike you
[44:31] did with holly  in the upper
[44:34] keys, you a ll did a fantastic
[44:36] job and,  again, the answers
and questions,  it was very
[44:39] enlightening to see h ow much
information needed  to be
[44:43] explained, so thank y ou for
that, excellent j ob.
[44:47] >> thank  you.
>>  okay.
Motion to a djourn?
[44:51] >>  move to adjourn.
>>  okay.
[44:54] I will  adjourn the meeting of
the l and authority governing
[44:58] board and r econvene the
meeting of  the monroe county
[45:01] board o f county commissioners.
Can't lower t his.
[45:05] can't lower t his.
The next  item is going to be
[45:09] on  page 8, item h1, the board
of  governors.
[45:11] >> and  now we will adjourn
the
[45:14] meeting of  the monroe county
[45:16] board o f county commissioners
[45:19] and c onvene the meeting of
[45:22] the
board of  governors.
[45:29] board of  governors.
Thank you,  gentlemen, for
[45:34] driving up  here for what will
probably be  not a terribly
[45:39] long  meeting.
Mr. M ayor, it's yours.
>> thank  you.
[45:42] ma'am, do you want to c all
the
[45:45] roll, please.
>>  yes, sir, commissioner
cates?
[45:46] >>  here.
>> commissioner raschein?
>>  here.
[45:48] >> mayor rice?
>>  here.
>> councilman lewis?
[45:52] >>  here.
>> mayor hailey.
Er
[45:53] >>  pam, I believe we h ave
one
[45:56] item.
>> that's c orrect, it's on
[46:00] page  8, item h1, board of
governor approval to  execute
[46:05] an agreement with r.  T.r.
Provide collection services
[46:07] provide collection services
for u npaid amounts relating
[46:10] from  fire rescue emergency
medical a ir and ground
[46:14] transportation  services.
[46:16] >> I  want to make one com
good contract b ecause it
[46:22] good contract b ecause it
reduces o ur expense from 25%
[46:26] to  roughly 12% and they're
piggybacking on t he other
[46:30] contract, so  I think this wa
together.
[46:31] together.
>> thank  you, with that,
aisle
[46:34] make a motion for a pproval.
>> I second.
[46:38] >>  pam, roll call, please.
>>  yes, sir, commissioner
[46:40] cates?
>>  yes.
>> commissioner raschein?
[46:42] >>  yes.
>> mayor rice?
>> yes.
[46:44] >>  councilor m n lewis?
>>  yes.
>> mayor  hailey?
[46:49] >>  yes.
>> the  item is approved.
[46:51] thank you very much.
The only motion I g et to make
[46:56] the only motion I g et to make
all d ay.
[47:01] thank you f or being here.
.
[47:05] er so, the  board of governors
[47:08] is  adjourned.
>>  and we will reconvene the
[47:12] meeting of  the monroe county
board o f county commissioners.
[47:15] >> yes, s ir, your next item
is
[47:18] on  page 6, we'll go back
staff r eport, item e1,
[47:24] administrative  director ed
cocoa nis u pdate on new
[47:28] permitting  software.
>> yay, l ooking forward to
this.
[47:32] >>  good morning, everyone,
this should b e fairly quick.
[47:37] again, for anybody in t he
switch tog  a new electronic
[47:42] switch tog  a new electronic
permitting  system, our
[47:43] current
the end o f next year, most of
[47:48] the end o f next year, most of
[47:51] the s upport on it will ceas
electronic  permitting system,
[47:55] electronic  permitting system,
remember, w hen we go live
[48:00] remember, w hen we go live
[48:02] which we're h oping is  going
[48:05] to  be mid july, anyone going
[48:06] forward from  that point who
be electronic, if y ou have
[48:10] be electronic, if y ou have
submitted p rior to that on
[48:13] paper, obviously we're  going
let y ou continue on those on
[48:18] paper, I  want to make sure
everyone's  aware of that.
[48:22] we have a ccomplished a lot
[48:21] since last  month, a lot of
most
[48:26] most
people aren't really going to
[48:29] care about, t hey want -- what
[48:31] we  keep hear ising when it's
[48:36] it going to happen, so again
[48:39] we are projecting mid t o late
[48:40] july the  -- what we're really
company and [ inaudible] who
[48:42] company and [ inaudible] who
is
[48:45] --  the money people for the
credit cards, they're w orking
[48:50] and they're o n the last steps
contract signed because w hat
[48:54] contract signed because w hat
we  want to do is wait to
[48:59] live until  not only can you
submit everything o nline you
[49:00] can, you  can pay online so
you
[49:02] don't have to come  into the
[49:06] office to p ay.
That we t hink is kind of out
[49:15] that we t hink is kind of out
[49:17] of  our hands, staff's been
working very hard , lots and
[49:22] lots of m eetings.
We've f inished with
contractor
[49:23] licensing instead o f paper,
they are  already in
[49:26] production
so we h ave everything
[49:28] converted o ver, so that the
contractor licensing should
[49:31] be
much  easier for the
[49:34] contractors to  not only
apply,
[49:39] renew, check  their status,
they'll be able to do t hat
[49:44] through t he system, brian
davidson, our j is person in
[49:47] planning  has successfully
automated t he property record
[49:48] card information so t hat
we're
[49:51] going to be able to g et that
[49:54] in  our system and so we'll
have -- q uestion ear
[49:57] projecting to get t hose on a
[49:57] weekly basis as w ell as the
be
[50:01] be
able  to tell you your addre
[50:05] or  whatever by punching that
basted
[50:06] basted
so if you c an find your
[50:11] property on a  map, you can do
[50:14] all that  too and all that's
[50:14] going t o be linked  together.
Wez h ave just deployed our
[50:18] mark-up software  which we
haven't h ad in the past and
[50:21] what that's going to  do is
[50:21] allow t he staff to not only
corrections
[50:25] corrections
are n eeded but also that's
[50:30] going - - that should help the
contractors, architects,
[50:34] engineers t o more easily see
what is w rong so that
[50:38] hopefully one s et of
corrections, hopefully that
[50:41] will be I t.
It  is the industry standard,
[50:43] there's other places nr t he
it's
[50:46] it's
by far  the industry standard,
[50:48] it's  called blue beam, I
[50:52] would
like to t hank joe tut l and
[50:56] his team  for getting that
deploy  and had ray ortiz in
[51:00] business and david  reems in
[51:02] planning with t heir
get thing s taff to learn how
[51:10] get thing s taff to learn how
to use  it.
[51:14] again, the testing   we have
[51:17] tested end  to end, we keep
[51:20] thinking of tweaks to m ake it
the
[51:22] the
public.
The m anager/supervisors
[51:25] across
planning, building even code,
[51:28] I want  to thank rick, I wan
[51:31] to  thank emily and cynthia I
[51:32] code, planning and  code are
later
[51:36] later
after permitting, but t hey
are
[51:42] coming.
The permitting  team, the
[51:45] customer  service team,
crystal,
[51:51] crystal,
lisa, m ckayla, dawn, alba,
[51:55] jan,  sarah, nicole, cat,
angelica, dorli, chantel, l ee
[52:00] ya  n, they are all really
normal  job, difficult enough,
[52:04] normal  job, difficult enough,
a lot o f the employees are
[52:09] brand new,  they had to learn
[52:12] two systems at  the same time,
[52:16] not easy, n ot an easy job at
[52:19] all, but they h ave done a ton
[52:20] of  work and I'm super proud
there's karen p leasant, she
[52:27] there's karen p leasant, she
creates the reports,  does the
[52:32] automated e-mails,  she has
[52:34] been -- b asically we have tom
by
[52:38] by
karen is  like the person in
[52:41] between that  al and I, we
[52:43] would not b e here if we
[52:44] weren't for karen,  we would
months  behind, she's just
[52:47] months  behind, she's just
done
[52:54] an  incredible job, she
sometimes h as to be a drill
[52:59] sergeant on u s but she has
course, on  time.
[53:05] course, on  time.
I g et e-mails from her day,
[53:10] night, saturday,  sunday for
months and  they're also
[53:13] working o n -- we're working
on
[53:16] getting o ur website, it's
still where w e were last
[53:19] month
but again we're on  the
[53:21] technical s ide, we're maiming
a l ot ofz moves, you won't
[53:24] see
it yet  but we're trying to
[53:24] get
more video and is more
[53:28] instructions  but wla's on
there n ow if you still
[53:31] haven't
seen it t o register for an
[53:34] account, to see h ow to apply
[53:36] for a  permit, it's easier no
[53:39] and it's going  to be easier
[53:40] now than it I s on paper, I
thought a ny different,
[53:43] thought a ny different,
paper's
[53:45] a l ittle confusing, there's
stuff t hat's not intuitive,
[53:50] when you  go through this,
there's certain t hings if
[53:51] there's an  asterisk next to
it
[53:53] on the application, you have
it will t ell you you're
[53:57] it will t ell you you're
missing t his accidenter it's
[53:59] really intuitive  websinger
have e-mail accounts and  the
[54:00] phone if  anybody has
problems,
[54:02] we're thinking it's going to
public
[54:04] public
and a  lot faster, it's
[54:08] concurrent reviews, you're
not
[54:11] going to  have certain
departments that  get behind
[54:15] from time t o time toe stall
it, everybody should  be
[54:19] getting behind  it, it's our
building  and permitting
[54:21] department  page, online
permitting services, it's
[54:25] going to  keep getting updated.
Again, we're hoping m id to
[54:30] late  july, really hinging on
one thing a nd that's the
[54:33] credit cards, so  if they can
[54:36] get that resolved in  the next
[54:39] couple of w eeks which we're
[54:41] still h opeful for, we should
concrete date p ret tie soon,
[54:46] concrete date p ret tie soon,
we  will publish it
[54:51] everywhere,
we have t o monitor that
[54:55] contract, karen's going t o be
working w ith jethon and
[54:57] jovanni
, we're going to  be working
[55:00] with  the contractors
hopefully
[55:03] in  a few weeks, we're just
finalizing  that but we
[55:07] believe
that should be a  week or two,
[55:11] we don't  really expect any
issues, w hat we really expect
[55:16] is for  them to see how much
[55:17] better it's g oing to be,
better and  easier, then we
[55:21] just have t o continue with
staff, just o ur last few
[55:23] bits,
we  train, we retrain, we look
[55:25] at  it and we try to get
the
[55:27] the
box,  the is there anything
you
[55:29] would like that w e didn't
have
[55:31] because our current s ystem
has
[55:33] constraints of course, so t ry
[55:35] to get  that out of people's
[55:37] heads, if you c ould have
[55:40] anything you want a nd then we
[55:40] ask if we c an get it, with
--
[55:43] --
we could get, it  was a really
[55:48] we could get, it  was a really
[55:52] good choice,  thank you, all,
choice  and again planning fo
[55:55] choice  and again planning fo
some others because I h ave
[55:59] heard I t, plan and code are
yet.
[56:01] yet.
Does  anybody have questions?
[56:04] >> mr.  Mayor, I have a
have
[56:08] have
like an u nveiling ceremony
[56:10] where we  get to click the
star  contractors?
[56:13] star  contractors?
Just wondering because this
is
[56:17] a big deal?
>>  yeah, I can definitely
[56:20] work
with allen and  we can see how
[56:23] we can  do that for the first
day.
[56:27] >> one more thing t o add to
[56:28] your  list but it's big de
do
[56:31] do
and w e'll do it, we'll do it,
[56:35] that's  a great idea.
Anything  else?
[56:36] >> excellent update, thank
you.
[56:39] >> well,  hopefully by your
next  meet, we will already
[56:42] live.
>> thank you, and t ell your
[56:43] staff thank y ou, we
how hard they w ork.
[56:48] how hard they w ork.
>> thank  you.
[56:53] >> and  to a successful launch.
Okay, moving along.
[56:57] >>  yes, sir, same page on 8,
[56:59] item j1,  approval o a
moderate  income affordable
[57:02] moderate  income affordable
pursuant  to monroe county
[57:08] pursuant  to monroe county
code
[57:11] section 1 38-24, subsection b,
subsection 1  for the
[57:14] construction  of two
affordable
[57:19] housing d welling units on
point s et ta drive, lots 14
[57:24] and 1 5, block 6, holiday
honesties,  key largo, having
[57:27] property  identification
numbers 0 0530730 with no
split
[57:34] out a nd 00530740 with no
split
[57:39] out u ntil june 15, 2026.
The same  time.
[57:42] the same  time.
>> that would b e on page 13,
[57:46] item  p7.
Approval  of a resolution of
[57:47] the h ardcover county
commissioners o f monroe
[57:50] county, florida, approving a
could watt  deed to donate two
[57:57] lots  for the construction of
two a ffordable housing
[58:01] dwelling  units to have a ta
keying.
[58:05] keying.
>> okay,  so these two items,
[58:09] last  month you discussed
donating two lots t o habitat
[58:12] for humanity  of the upper
keys
[58:17] to  build two affordable
housing u nits, so j1 would b
[58:22] reservation of rogo u nits for
resolution approving donation
[58:24] resolution approving donation
of those  lots.
[58:28] right now, p  -- I'm sorry,
j1,
[58:32] the rogo  reservation, right
year reservation, they  would
[58:37] year reservation, they  would
have to h ave their building
[58:42] permits I ssued by june of
issued, then  they take the
[58:46] issued, then  they take the
[58:49] time  they need to build it,
[58:51] ice   -- they would wait the
[58:51] full  four years to pull th
[58:54] permits but that would be the
[58:56] limit.
P7 right now is d rafted in a
[59:00] way that after 10 y ears if
[59:03] this z  the units are not
[59:04] completed,  there would be on
option for  the county to
[59:06] exercise to t ake the land
back
[59:09] and I believe the r eason for
discussion  about that
[59:16] discussion  about that
timeframe s hould it be
[59:20] shorter, is that  contract? --
correct?
[59:22] >> yes, I t's up to us if we
and
[59:25] and
have five eyers b e the limit,
[59:28] I f eel habitat with get it
[59:31] done  in five years and we ca
[59:33] also  if that five year marke
[59:33] passes, we  can sort of let I
more
[59:35] more
>> the  way I've drafted the
[59:38] >> the  way I've drafted the
[59:41] language  is it takes ain f
exercise the  reverter clause,
[59:46] exercise the  reverter clause,
[59:47] so, five  year from now, if w
[59:49] change it t o five and we g
[59:49] the five  plus a day, it woul
board
[59:53] board
to  do it but it would sen
[59:55] the
message that we n eed it
built,
[59:58] we don't just h old these for
until the tenth y ear.
[1:00:02] until the tenth y ear.
>>  I don't think lindsay
[1:00:04] fast,
the director of h abitat is on
[1:00:07] the line yet, she w as in a
but
[1:00:11] but
I've  been texting with her, I
[1:00:14] do  know the rogo reservation,
[1:00:17] I asked h er is four years
be enough,  they're breaking
[1:00:22] be enough,  they're breaking
ground on a  project in
[1:00:26] islamorada, t hey said it's an
18-24 month p roject, then
[1:00:30] they'd  move on to these lo
[1:00:30] there are four, there a re two
[1:00:32] they already have w ith the
reservation, so I  agree, it
[1:00:36] sound like  they can probably
county has  an option to
[1:00:39] county has  an option to
extend, t hat's also an
[1:00:41] opportunity to  give them more
[1:00:43] time.
>> mr.  Mayor, we needed these
[1:00:47] homes yesterday so I  say the
than
[1:00:49] than
-- more than accomplishes
our
[1:00:50] goal.
.
Er is that a motion?
[1:00:53] >> so m oved.
>>  second.
[1:00:56] >> we h ave a motion and a
second, any further
[1:01:00] discussion?
Any o bjections?
>>  just to clarify, that
[1:01:02] would
be the  motion for p7 which is
[1:01:07] the l and donation resolution,
and then we a lso need a
[1:01:10] motion
for j1 which  is the rogo
[1:01:11] reservation with the  four
year
[1:01:12] time limit  to pull the
permits.
[1:01:14] >> thank you, c ould I have a
motion?
[1:01:17] >> I'll move  for that too.
As
[1:01:17] as
[1:01:22] well.
>>  okay, any o bjections?
[1:01:27] >>  okay, any o bjections?
The I tem is approved.
[1:01:31] >> your n ext item is on page
[1:01:33] 9, j3,  approval of an
monroe county a nd the florida
[1:01:41] monroe county a nd the florida
department  of environmental
[1:01:45] protections providing
protection mobile pump  out
[1:01:53] protection mobile pump  out
services  for monroe county,
[1:01:58] contract number e s008.
Want today  continue it to
[1:02:00] want today  continue it to
july, I w anted to explain
[1:02:03] what
it  was about and whether
[1:02:07] you're on b oard with this
idea, a s you know, fdep to
[1:02:12] over  the pump out s frs
[1:02:13] program keys  wide last year,
[1:02:15] so  they have a contract with
the contract  for this
[1:02:18] the contract  for this
upcoming
[1:02:21] year, their y ear starts in
july, the m oney for this
[1:02:26] project, the  county asked for
300 thousand from t he state
[1:02:32] and t hat was approved, we ha
[1:02:34] to put  a match in our budge
[1:02:36] so we f rom our boating
improvement f unds did budget
[1:02:40] approximately 300 t housand,
dep I s asking now, think ear
[1:02:43] using the 300 t housand from
the s tate, they're asking if
[1:02:46] we have m oney to cover the
[1:02:47] other portion of  the contract
directly in t heir own budget,
[1:02:52] directly in t heir own budget,
[1:02:52] so yes, w e have it and, yes,
[1:02:53] we're supportive  of them
continuing this c ontract, so
[1:02:59] staff's recommending approval
to do t hat, the interlocal
[1:03:04] agreement I s the mechanism to
get t hem the money, the
[1:03:07] reason
I'm asking  to hold it is
[1:03:09] because this has only b een in
[1:03:11] the works for a  couple of
finished  reviewing and
[1:03:14] finished  reviewing and
approving the document
[1:03:15] itself,
so I need to continue I t to
[1:03:20] july.
I do  think they may also be
[1:03:23] entertaining a  request to
renegotiate the f ee or the
[1:03:27] amount  with the contractor
because of  increased fuel
[1:03:33] prices, w e do have enough
funds a vailable to cover a
[1:03:38] higher  amount if needed, so
that  would be reflected in
[1:03:40] the
july item when  we come back,
[1:03:41] I
thought that was  important to
[1:03:44] let dep know  that the money
is
[1:03:47] coming, c ontinue services,
>> I  support that.
[1:03:53] >> I  support that.
>> okay,  do we need a motion
[1:03:57] to   continue, someone want to
make that m otion, that wauz
[1:03:59] motion  from commissioner
er
[1:04:01] er
>>  I'll second it.
>>  and a second.
[1:04:06] >> thank  you.
>>  mayor, besides your
[1:04:12] commissioners comments, w e're
done until  10:30 this morning
[1:04:16] for t he time approximate.
Do you want t o have a
[1:04:21] commissioners comments?
>> do w e have any comments
[1:04:23] other than  shock?
>> I  would like the wait t
[1:04:27] the end o f the meeting when
revenger's fatigued to  give
[1:04:28] my
>> it works for m e.
[1:04:31] >> it works for m e.
>> mayor?
[1:04:34] >> we p refer that too because
>>  mayor?
[1:04:37] >>  mayor?
>> yes?
[1:04:38] >> greg b urns if it's okay
give his report.
[1:04:43] give his report.
>>  absolutely.
>>  yes.
[1:04:46] >>  greg?
>> it's a  time approximate of
10:30.
[1:04:51] >> we're going  to go ahead
--
[1:04:54] --
>>  okay.
>>  it doesn't work?
[1:04:58] >>  it won't go down.
>>  good morning, mayor,
[1:05:03] commissioners, this I tem
concerns  the board's federal
[1:05:05] legislative agenda for  the
coming year,  each year we do
[1:05:07] a
federal agenda much like  we
[1:05:11] do
the state general a basing
[1:05:14] similar to  the state agenda,
we  have perennial issues that
[1:05:17] we have in there all the time
[1:05:19] and we have new issues that
[1:05:21] come -- that  are added as a
[1:05:22] result  of new challenges, so
some  of our standing
[1:05:25] priorities include
reauthorization o f the
[1:05:26] national flood insurance
on
[1:05:34] on
keeping t hose premiums
[1:05:38] affordable, f unding for pilt
and f quip, everglades
[1:05:42] restating and t hose that
impact the florida  bay and
[1:05:45] the
estuary,  coral reef
protection, veterans support,
[1:05:48] those a re our perennial
issues, and t hen we have
[1:05:50] issue
that is a re added, an example
[1:05:54] of that is  something that was
added after h urricane irma
[1:05:59] when bh w e had all of that
[1:06:00] marine  debris, there really
isn't a ny automatic standing
[1:06:04] federal program to  help with
removing  that marine debris,
[1:06:08] so that's b ecome a focus for
[1:06:09] us to t ry to identify funding
[1:06:12] with some c ertainty, we got
[1:06:13] funding but we need t o make
the next  time.
[1:06:18] the next  time.
Then in 2 020 and 2021,
[1:06:22] congress  was focused on
response to t he pandemic and
[1:06:25] we were m onitoring and
advocating for funds to b e
[1:06:27] sent  down for local
businesses
[1:06:29] and workers a nd local
cares a ct in 2020 and then
[1:06:34] cares a ct in 2020 and then
the
[1:06:38] american rescue p lan in 2021,
today, greg's g oing to talk
[1:06:43] today, greg's g oing to talk
authorization for the new
[1:06:44] authorization for the new
completed
[1:06:47] completed
with  the army corps, the
[1:06:50] climate r esilience project
and
earmarks, f ederal
[1:06:53] appropriation requests, so
you'll see  those in the
[1:06:55] agenda
and greg's going  to talk
about
[1:06:58] those a  little, greg burns is
our f ederal lobbyist, he's
[1:07:03] been with t he county since
you
[1:07:03] you
briefly, he's going to give
[1:07:07] you a  little presentation on
recent successes  and some of
[1:07:13] our I ssues and answer any of
your  questions.
[1:07:18] >>  okay.
>> thank you very m uch.
Greg, w elcome.
[1:07:21] >> good morning, thank you
for
[1:07:21] the opportunity to be with
you
all t oday.
[1:07:25] my name's greg burns  with a
company called  thorn run
[1:07:30] partner I ns washington, dc,
pleased to  be here and than
[1:07:33] you,  lisa, for the
introduction, I feel  like she
[1:07:36] basically said everything I'm
about to  say so I apologize
[1:07:40] for what  I may repeat.
I s tart talking about your
[1:07:42] I s tart talking about your
a
[1:07:44] a
moment to r emind you that
[1:07:47] thorn run partners  is sort of
[1:07:50] a whole t eam of people, it's
[1:07:52] not just  me even though I am
[1:07:55] the person  that you see, I
[1:07:57] joined the  firm in 2018 but
[1:07:59] the f irm was founded in 2010
recently  been named the
[1:08:02] recently  been named the
number
[1:08:03] 9 f irm in washington based on
total revenue,  that's huge
[1:08:08] growth for  us, we started out
[1:08:09] as  two people, we're now ove
[1:08:11] 45 people,  it's just been a
[1:08:13] really great place to b e and
[1:08:16] we're all very  happy to be
[1:08:17] working o n your behalf.
We  do have about 225 clients
[1:08:22] tat firm, a gain, we started
with  two people probably 15
[1:08:24] clients initially, so you can
imagine the growth, we do
[1:08:26] have
a lot o f experience working
on
[1:08:30] behalf  of public entities, I
nror  abasing california,
[1:08:32] texas, other  places like
that,
[1:08:37] we have m ore than 45 clients
in that s pace.
[1:08:42] focusing now on w hat we do on
[1:08:45] behalf  of monroe county, so,
work  with respect to
[1:08:48] work  with respect to
appropriation a nd is earmark,
[1:08:50] congress  did just restore
sort
[1:08:52] of the  power of the purses
[1:08:55] they call I t where they have
begun to  both request and
[1:08:58] fund
earmarks, they haven't  done
[1:08:59] that for  about ten years so
[1:09:01] this has  been the first time
[1:09:03] since I've  been working on
behalf of m onroe county where
[1:09:05] we've been  able to request
funding.
[1:09:05] wez worked  with your team
last
[1:09:09] year  to identify the twin
lakes project is  something we
[1:09:14] all felt  would be competitive
for funding,  congressman
[1:09:18] jimenez did m ake the request
on  behalf of the county, he
[1:09:21] did s ecure almost 5.5 million
dollars for the the project
[1:09:26] which is a  a full federal
all
[1:09:27] all
thanks  to the congressman, he
[1:09:29] really did  deliver for you
all
[1:09:32] and it was  a big deal becaus
to
[1:09:34] to
fact that h e not only made
[1:09:38] fact that h e not only made
[1:09:44] yours one o f his priorities
but then went out a nd
[1:09:49] successfully fouk for t hose
funds w as a big deal and w
[1:09:53] appreciate his work on  behalf
of the  county.
[1:09:55] florida k eys water quality
another
[1:09:58] another
one, this is  obviously the
[1:10:02] year's  long effort to impr
creating  a central sewer
[1:10:06] creating  a central sewer
system  throughout the keys,
[1:10:11] and h e has continued theo
fight to secure funding for
[1:10:15] fqip, he got  a 6 million
[1:10:16] dollar earmark in l ast year's
bill, that  brings the project
[1:10:21] to  78 million dollars over a
maybe.
[1:10:22] maybe.
And then pilt I s payment in
[1:10:26] lieu of taxes, this is  the
program t hat helps reimburse
[1:10:30] monroe county a nd other
counties  across the kuntd ri
[1:10:33] for all o f the federal land
and
[1:10:35] and
so  out of that pilt funding
[1:10:39] that was  funded by congress,
you all r eceived roughly
[1:10:41] about
1.4 m illion dollars annually,
[1:10:44] we  always have to fight to
make sure t hat program is
[1:10:49] funded adequately.
We  also have two other things
[1:10:50] which a re not directly
funding
[1:10:53] related but are k nown as
authorizations so,  the water
[1:10:56] resources development act I s
the b ill congress passes
[1:10:59] every
two y ears hopefully to give
[1:11:02] the army  corps of engineers
it does t hroughout the
[1:11:05] it does t hroughout the
country
[1:11:07] and we're going t o talk more
[1:11:09] about h ow the corps does pl
that are  important to the
[1:11:13] that are  important to the
authorization,  a construction
[1:11:17] authorization,  a construction
authorization for t he monroe
[1:11:20] county  coastal storm risk
management  study to basically
[1:11:22] move forward so they  can
begin
[1:11:24] to spend money  and build
things.
[1:11:27] thus  far, they've spent
studies, all of w hich are
[1:11:33] studies, all of w hich are
[1:11:35] valuable but  we want them t
[1:11:36] build t hings and improve your
storm resiliency here I n n
[1:11:41] the
keys, b efore can get federal
[1:11:43] fund  ifinger construction,
the
water resources development
[1:11:45] act I ncludes the
authorization
[1:11:46] for your study  to move to
construction in both the
[1:11:50] house
and the s enate versions, we
[1:11:50] hope that b ill will pass
this year,  it's something
[1:11:57] this year,  it's something
we're w orking closely on, for
[1:12:02] that, w e thank your entire
delegation mr.  Rubio and
[1:12:06] senator scott h ave been
helpful, there is a n
[1:12:09] additional  authorization for
in
[1:12:13] in
potential federal f unding for
[1:12:17] fquip,  the region that
received 78 m illion dollars
[1:12:21] in
dollar limit  under current
[1:12:26] dollar limit  under current
federal law, this is  to bump
[1:12:31] the 100 m illion to 200
million
[1:12:32] dollars, so another thing
that's important in that  bill.
[1:12:37] this is a n item that's older
up
[1:12:39] up
because I h aven't been with
[1:12:43] you all f or two years due to
[1:12:47] the p andemic, this is related
to higgs  beach, back in
[1:12:52] fiscal
year 21 w hich seems lie e I
[1:12:54] --  like a long time ago,
there
[1:12:57] was I nterior appropriations
bill  relating to higgs beach,
[1:13:01] you can s ee the language on
[1:13:06] the slide,  but the issue is
bit
[1:13:12] bit
cited   -- con  -- constrict
[1:13:16] in  its uses because it was
[1:13:19] through the l and and water
conservation fund w hich is to
[1:13:23] improve t he land so, why this
[1:13:24] is  important is because this
property  as you know, you
[1:13:28] have
worked  for many years to
[1:13:30] initiate  a master plan,
redevelopment of  higgs beach,
[1:13:34] there's also been d iscussion
about transferring portions
[1:13:37] of
the property  to other users,
[1:13:41] but all o f this is restricted
receive federal grant m oney
[1:13:44] receive federal grant m oney
for it  decades ago, this
[1:13:48] language  that we secured bac
in fy21 I s important because
[1:13:52] it does t ry to say from
department of environmental
[1:13:54] department of environmental
protection and  the national
[1:13:56] parks service t hat they
really
[1:13:59] should be m uch more lenient
with respect  to the county's
[1:14:03] efforts t o improve or
transfer
[1:14:06] or do whatever it n eeds to do
[1:14:09] with higgs  beach, so again,
another t hing we were able
[1:14:12] do, again, a  couple of years
[1:14:12] ago,  since I haven't had a
wanted
[1:14:14] wanted
to bring  it up now.
[1:14:17] so, looking t o your federal
agenda which  is the document
[1:14:20] I
believe that you all  will be
[1:14:22] looking t o approve today, and
certainly I'm happy t o talk
[1:14:27] about any o f these items, I'm
[1:14:27] going to run some o  the
why these t hings are
[1:14:30] why these t hings are
important, I  mentioned the
[1:14:33] request we  made last year in
successful in s ecuring, the
[1:14:37] successful in s ecuring, the
earmark request,  we made two
[1:14:41] on behalf o f this year, they
include f unding for card
[1:14:45] sound
bridge as well  as funding for
[1:14:47] the m onroe county storm risk
management project, t his
[1:14:49] would
initiate the next phase o f
the
[1:14:52] project which is  known as
planning, e ngineering and
[1:14:56] design, I'm s orry, the corps
steps, this w ould be the next
[1:15:00] steps, this w ould be the next
step  in that process and
[1:15:04] hopefully getting us  to the
point w here we're doing
[1:15:05] construction.
Specifically for that portion
[1:15:07] of the  project, it is going
to
[1:15:10] fund ultimately the goal  is
to
[1:15:12] fund [inaudible]  and shore
line stabilization  along u.s.
[1:15:17] 1, na will  be one of the m
phases
[1:15:20] phases
of the  project so we're
[1:15:24] excited to  have put these
forward,  congressman jimenez
[1:15:28] also has  made these two
requests on behalf  of the
[1:15:32] county, v ery appreciative of
his efforts t here, we don't
[1:15:35] know  yet whether these have
been funded, right  now
[1:15:37] congress is b eginning the
work
[1:15:39] on  appropriations for fy23
websinger could h ave some
[1:15:41] early indications of our
level
[1:15:41] of success within t he next
two
[1:15:45] f few weeks, so I'll ha
more to share s oon.
[1:15:50] we worked o n these requests
with your s taff again
[1:15:52] internally trying to come u p
with  things that were both
[1:15:56] most  pressing but also most
realistic f or federal
[1:15:59] funding,
I will  say that 'earmark',
you
[1:16:01] can't fund anything y ou want,
fit w ithin some narrow boxes
[1:16:06] fit w ithin some narrow boxes
requests we c ould come up
[1:16:08] requests we c ould come up
with
[1:16:10] that were ready t o go and
were
[1:16:14] applicable  to the county.
So, we've talked  a little bit
[1:16:17] already about the c orps of
engineers a nd how engaged
[1:16:20] they
are now w ith a variety of
[1:16:24] initiatives on behalf o f the
county, w e have talked tabt
[1:16:28] coastal r isk management
project websinger n eed
[1:16:31] authorization to move t o
construction, be&I talked
[1:16:37] about how w e're seeking fund
[1:16:40] tog kick  start that u.s. 1
[1:16:41] work, we  also long term, this
assistance, building
[1:16:43] assistance, building
elevation
[1:16:46] as  well as flood mitt gracing
projects and  is the hardening
[1:16:51] of critical buildings so this
[1:16:51] is  a large project, it could
[1:16:54] deliver a  lot of benefit, I
be
[1:16:57] be
a l ong endeavor and it's
[1:17:03] something t hat you all will
[1:17:05] become more f luent in and I
[1:17:09] will certainly be w ork
witching you  all  -- advocate
[1:17:14] on behalf o f this project in
washington, we talked a bout
[1:17:18] the fkwqip  project as well,
the a rmy corps of engineers
[1:17:21] the a rmy corps of engineers
sxit's  an initiative for the
[1:17:25] community and is the key and
funding going,  and lisa
[1:17:27] funding going,  and lisa
mentioned the everglades
[1:17:29] restoration is critically
important for the h ealth of
[1:17:33] florida bay, we n eed to
improve the habitat t hat has
[1:17:38] been degraded o ver the years
that is's o ccurred in the
[1:17:42] that is's o ccurred in the
region, a nd I think there's
[1:17:47] been a  lot of criticism
ton federal government over
[1:17:53] ton federal government over
ever   -- everglades
[1:17:57] ever   -- everglades
restoration t f ederal
[1:18:02] government ma stepped u p and
has proposed  2.3 billion
[1:18:07] has proposed  2.3 billion
dollars f or   everglades
[1:18:10] restoration tha,'s when you
speak a bout the army corps of
[1:18:11] engineers, this is  the
largest
[1:18:14] project in the history  of the
most  significantly federally
[1:18:18] most  significantly federally
funded project  in the army
[1:18:20] corps of engineers so you c an
[1:18:23] think of  all the different
things  they do across the
[1:18:26] country w ith respect to flood
control or  ports or beach
[1:18:29] restoration and this is t he
number  one construction
[1:18:32] project in  terms of funding,
so  it is very significant and
[1:18:37] a l ot of federal commitment
continues to  restore the
[1:18:38] everglades, again t r eason
why
[1:18:41] that's  important to monroe
county  is to improve water
[1:18:45] quality I n florida bay, ther
are specific projects I
[1:18:48] mentioned o n the slide deck,
one is  known taz modified
[1:18:53] waters, t he bridging of the
trail project, right  now they
[1:18:57] are adding  culverts west tof
new bridges that  have been
[1:18:58] built, they decided they
don't
[1:18:59] at this p oint believe they
need additional b ridging, the
[1:19:02] culverts will be sufficient
and that the  bridging that is
[1:19:07] there n ow is working
wonderfully, we h ope to see
[1:19:09] progress  there, central
everglades planning project
is
[1:19:12] lead tog the  construction tof
initiative, I t will take well
[1:19:17] initiative, I t will take well
more  than a decade I'm su
[1:19:20] to
build that project but I  will
[1:19:23] 
[1:19:25] administration's budget for
this  year to ko n
[1:19:27] construction
on  that project and another
[1:19:31] important p roject that's been
a l ong time coming and is
[1:19:36] partially complete  but not
project, the effort is  to get
[1:19:40] project, the effort is  to get
[1:19:43] more water flowing south  that
right n ow they're
[1:19:45] right n ow they're
constructing
[1:19:53] some permanent pump s tation
step before t hat project is
[1:19:58] step before t hat project is
the n ational flood program,
[1:20:01] the n ational flood program,
we
[1:20:05] anticipate they w ill have to
authorize this program, I t
[1:20:08] will expire at the  end of
this
[1:20:12] year, there's a w hole host of
issues, t his is bingeing mo
[1:20:17] and m ore of a problem where
you have  flooding from
[1:20:21] weather,  whether it's intense
rainfall  events or storms, I
[1:20:25] don't know if you k now what's
national park, they're  having
[1:20:28] national park, they're  having
tremendous flooding and h ave
[1:20:31] had t o close the entire
national  park which seems
[1:20:33] mind
boggling to m e tha,'s how
much
[1:20:36] water they've had, this I s a
nationwide  problem but it
[1:20:41] impacts you s ignificantly and
significantly, so c ongress
[1:20:47] significantly, so c ongress
will certainly  extend the
[1:20:51] program, the  nfip, they may
[1:20:53] consider  an authorization,
just a  lot of disagreement on
[1:20:59] just a  lot of disagreement on
[1:21:02] how t o address the problem,
many  people see the nfip as
[1:21:04] being c ompletely broken and
in
[1:21:05] need of m assive
transformation, the m irns
[1:21:08] ration just r eleased a
proposal just a c ouple of
[1:21:11] days
ago that would  do a lot, it
[1:21:12] would change a lot  with the
lot
[1:21:14] lot
with  the availability of
[1:21:17] federal flood I nsurance and I
won't get I nto those details
[1:21:22] now, the  sides are far apart.
A
[1:21:23] a
part  as an issue, its extends
[1:21:27] to  be more geographically
based s oit's not republican
[1:21:30] and I s democrats fighting
the n fip, it tends to be
[1:21:35] the n fip, it tends to be
[1:21:39] dependent o n how significant
flooding can be I n your
[1:21:44] community.
Right now, rates  for the nfip
[1:21:45] can increase  over the year,
so
[1:21:48] monroe  county has been
subjecting  to congress for
[1:21:52] sometime now  that we lower
reasonable  rate of 9% and
[1:21:55] reasonable  rate of 9% and
give
[1:21:58] people an o pportunity to more
easily deal w ith rate
[1:22:02] increases that are  likely to
come.
[1:22:04] congress is t alking about
affordability provisions, I
[1:22:07] will note that  those in my
going
[1:22:09] going
to be s uper helpful to the
[1:22:13] keys and  to your constituents
but na's something they a re
[1:22:16] talking about as a  way to
sort
[1:22:18] of promote  the equity piece
of
[1:22:19] the n ational flood insurance
you all may h ave heard of
[1:22:23] you all may h ave heard of
risk
[1:22:27] rating 2.0, we  talked with
your  floodplain manager
[1:22:31] earlier o n abthis issue, that
new m odel for pricing flood
[1:22:36] insurance is  fully being
implemented,  full steam
[1:22:37] ahead,
I don't see a ny chance --
[1:22:41] well, n ot any chance, but I
[1:22:42] don't s ee a likely chance in
changes the implementation  of
[1:22:46] changes the implementation  of
this program, so  for your
[1:22:50] constituent that  is are
struggling  with these new
[1:22:53] policy  premiums and are
concerned t hat their rates
[1:22:55] are
going to go through t he the
[1:22:58] roof which  might be happening
for some folks, I  would
[1:23:02] encourage y ou to collect
those
[1:23:05] stories and g et them to lisa
[1:23:07] so she  can thn get them to m
[1:23:09] because I t hink we need those
[1:23:09] an nem  dotes to share with
of
[1:23:11] of
what's really h appening with
[1:23:14] this  new pricing model so
that
[1:23:18] maybe in  the future, they ca
act on  it.
[1:23:21] lisa also m entioned the
national  resources
[1:23:24] conservation service, t he
emergency watershed
[1:23:26] protection
program, this is a program
[1:23:31] that did  deliver quite a bit
help  address marine debris in
[1:23:36] help  address marine debris in
canals and  near shore waters
[1:23:39] after hurricane I rma.
You know, o n one hand, it was
[1:23:41] a s uccessful program because
a
[1:23:44] lot of  work got done, on the
[1:23:47] other hand, I t was very
difficult to work t hrough and
[1:23:50] they  did not approve all of
[1:23:53] the analyses  for cleanup in
be  desired.
[1:23:55] be  desired.
We are trying to  work to
[1:23:58] ensure  this program or
another
[1:24:01] program c an better address
marine debris I n the future,
[1:24:05] of course hurricane I rma will
hits the  keys even though
[1:24:08] hits the  keys even though
keep  my fingers crossed that
[1:24:11] keep  my fingers crossed that
certainly n eed to have a
[1:24:16] certainly n eed to have a
program t hat effectively
[1:24:17] helps
address marine debris, I
don't
[1:24:21] know  that the nrcswp program
a w hole coalition in
[1:24:26] a w hole coalition in
washington to try t o address
[1:24:30] the p roblem.
I will  note though that the
[1:24:32] county  administrator
personally was involved I n
[1:24:35] getting these funds,  I think
the n rcs was surprised
[1:24:38] frankly
by the  idea they would spend
[1:24:41] the amount of m oney that they
all
[1:24:43] all
as much as  they did which was
[1:24:46] not enough, and I think a l ot
of
[1:24:48] of
certainly want to n ote that
[1:24:50] certainly want to n ote that
and c ertainly the delegation
[1:24:55] as  well, senator rubio was
significant in helping  to
[1:25:00] push
this  forward, I don't believe
[1:25:04] senator scott w as in congress
at  the time or congressman
[1:25:09] jimenez, senator rubio  did a
county.
[1:25:11] county.
Moving on to  the next item,
[1:25:14] corals, s o, commissioner
coldiron will be  coming to
[1:25:18] washington next week  to auk
issue,
[1:25:20] issue,
it doesn't  take a rocket
[1:25:23] scientist to  understand that
corals  are suffering
[1:25:27] throughout  florida and it's
tragic, there's not m uch more
[1:25:30] to  say, the federal
invests about 30 million
[1:25:34] invests about 30 million
dollars I n overall coral
[1:25:39] funding p er year but -- and
that's  been consistent
[1:25:42] relatively  speaking over 20
[1:25:46] plus  years but the health of
decline, we need to c hange
[1:25:53] decline, we need to c hange
that, t he restoring resilient
[1:25:58] reefs a ct was introduced by
senator rubio, we h ave been
[1:26:02] working diligently to try t o
get t his legislation passed,
[1:26:06] it did  pass the senate in
[1:26:09] 2020, t he last congress, it
[1:26:10] had t o be restarted which I
[1:26:12] didn't  pass the hos at this
[1:26:14] time, it  now in this congres
[1:26:15] has passed the  house as part
[1:26:15] of  a much larger bill that
was
[1:26:20] was
included in this  other bill,
[1:26:24] so we a re so close and this
[1:26:26] bill will - - it's just going
the federal g overnment uses
[1:26:28] the federal g overnment uses
to
[1:26:29] try t o help improve the
health
[1:26:33] of coral, it  does propose to
more
[1:26:35] more
importantly it offers f unds
[1:26:38] for e mergency coral
restoration w hen it's needed,
[1:26:41] it try  tos fwet more funding
down  to local entities,
[1:26:45] whether I t taoes states or
other entities  like the
[1:26:48] county
for instance  to try to
improve
[1:26:51] corals  in a much more timely
[1:26:54] manner, the s cats quo has not
[1:26:55] worked over t he past 20 year,
corals decline, congress  has
[1:26:58] corals decline, congress  has
an opportunity right now  to
[1:27:02] help improve and save w hat we
for the f uture.
[1:27:04] for the f uture.
I really do m rao ef this is
[1:27:07] the best  chance right now to
[1:27:08] get t his bill passed, tla's
why I'm h appy to have
[1:27:13] commissioner coldiron c ome to
dc, she's g oing to be
[1:27:14] partnering with
representative
[1:27:16] from broward county a nd
martin
[1:27:20] county which is w here the
florida c oral reef befwins,
[1:27:24] having  meetings to encourage
all of  congress to finally
[1:27:33] pass this bill, a nd I will
[1:27:38] restoring resilient reef  pact
is  supported by the entire
[1:27:41] delegation, they're supported
by  both senators and every
[1:27:44] single member o f the florida
house d elegation, that's
[1:27:47] really, r eally significant,
so, again,  we're excited to
[1:27:50] push on t his next week and
hopefully w e'll have good
[1:27:53] news
later this  year on the
passage
[1:27:53] of this bill.
I do  want to talk briefly
[1:27:57] about the infa have you
beening k hur bill because it
[1:28:02] is so I mportant, it was such
an achievement  for congress
[1:28:07] to
pass this bill,  I apologize
[1:28:07] that this conversation can
pretty quickly, particularly
[1:28:09] pretty quickly, particularly
because it is so  big and so
[1:28:13] important and I t's so
complicated, but I want to
[1:28:15] try
to  hit a few highlights, so
[1:28:18] you t alk about this 1.2
trillion dollar b ill,
[1:28:20] everyone
thinks, when are  we going to
[1:28:23] get our m oney and how are we
[1:28:26] going to  get our money, you
[1:28:27] all have  gotten some money
maybe unbeknownst to  you all,
[1:28:32] your airports have  received
money f rom the infrastructure
[1:28:34] bill, t here certainly are
there will be o ther examples
[1:28:39] there will be o ther examples
to  work through its
[1:28:43] to  work through its
implementation, h alf was
[1:28:46] essentially maintaining that
status quo with  a bit more
[1:28:49] funding,  so from 1.2
trillion,
[1:28:51] you're  down to about 150
billion I n new spending, it
[1:28:55] is
years s o that's 110 billion
[1:28:57] years s o that's 110 billion
[1:29:00] per year which  is still a lot
amount
[1:29:03] amount
large
[1:29:10] large
as you may  have thought when
[1:29:14] you h eard the news, over that
for transportation, much  of
[1:29:17] for transportation, much  of
those funds though still  will
[1:29:21] be  granted by dot through
formula f unds which means the
[1:29:25] funds flow to t he state and
[1:29:27] then the state has  a lot of
[1:29:28] discretion as t o how to spend
[1:29:29] those funds,  so not all of it
in
[1:29:32] in
big awards, h owever, some of
[1:29:33] it will b e.
I will  say that the
[1:29:38] infrastructure bill is  really
proposed to be  and I think
[1:29:43] proposed to be  and I think
[1:29:46] tla's a n important note, it's
the o bama era stimulus bill
[1:29:48] the o bama era stimulus bill
we
[1:29:52] had b ack in 2009, it's not on
job creation  or shovel
[1:29:56] readiness, obviously given it
five year l ife, and it's
[1:29:57] meant
to  transform our
[1:29:58] infrastructure, I have  noted
what  the administration
[1:30:02] priority ares f or the
infrastructure law, I n ote
[1:30:05] those for t wo reasons, one,
because climate resilience is
[1:30:08] one of  the initiatives which
I
[1:30:10] think relates v ery well to
here, but I 'll note the
[1:30:13] here, but I 'll note the
others
[1:30:16] as  well, equity environmental
justice a nd domestic
[1:30:20] manufacturing and labor, some
as
[1:30:24] as
a f it for monroe county as
[1:30:28] may compete for f unds in the
to be a ware of.
[1:30:31] to be a ware of.
This is a  good visual
[1:30:34] representation of what  the
bill is o n the right versus
[1:30:37] what  was initially proposed
by
[1:30:40] the administration on the
started o ut as 2.6 trillion,
[1:30:45] started o ut as 2.6 trillion,
of  new pendbacker spending
[1:30:48] of  new pendbacker spending
over five a dorers so it
[1:30:50] became
one fifth of  what the
[1:30:55] administration had  lonelier
proposed, just to g ive you a
[1:31:00] sense of  scale and kiep of
what it b ecame.
[1:31:02] I want  today highlight a few
[1:31:06] programs  relevant to county,
one is  the bridge investment
[1:31:10] program, there has  not been a
specific  program just for
[1:31:13] bridge improvements, but
congress did  create this
[1:31:16] through the bill, t hey are
providing 1 2.5 billion
[1:31:20] dollars
over  five years for an
[1:31:22] application period, this is a
xet t ifz a pplication anteing
[1:31:26] nationwide, there is  money
available for these k inds of
[1:31:28] investments, I  think it's
certainly something w e'll be
[1:31:30] working with your t eam to
identify whether or not I t's
[1:31:33] a
good fit  for a competitive
application.
[1:31:36] I will  note it also is in
[1:31:38] addition  to a much larger
of
[1:31:40] of
florida I n which tallahassee
has authority o ver.
[1:31:45] you may h ave heard about the
brick program,  fema's
[1:31:48] building
resilient infrastructure in
[1:31:49] communities, this is  what
they
[1:31:53] renamed the p redisaster
mitigation, you h ave made
[1:31:57] applications for these funds
in the  past t twin lakes
[1:32:00] project w ould have fit in
category so w e did
[1:32:04] category so w e did
for that  as I described, bu
[1:32:09] for that  as I described, bu
this program,  we'll have
[1:32:13] additional funding due  to the
infrastructure law, charging
[1:32:17] grants  for ev infrastructure,
invest  in charging
[1:32:19] invest  in charging
infrastructure by t he federal
[1:32:23] government, ice s traight
shot,
[1:32:25] everybody's on one road,  you
start t o build infrastructure
[1:32:28] and certain spacing so  I
think
[1:32:31] likely  you'll see investment
through the state m ore than
[1:32:36] likely  in ev charging
capabilities here in  the keys
[1:32:39] in  the near future, last but
not l east t protectbacker
[1:32:43] protect grant programs  is a
transportation program  that
[1:32:45] is
specifically  related to
[1:32:47] resilience, I w ill note it's
only 1.4  billion dollars over
[1:32:52] five  years which again sounds
like a  lot, when you're talk
[1:32:54] k
about a  nationwide
[1:32:56] competition, iet  esnot all
that much,  you'll see how
[1:32:59] it's
divided a mongst four
programs,
[1:33:01] each of t hose four programs
is
[1:33:04] going to  be divided by five
years because they're going
[1:33:07] to
have application  periods,
more
[1:33:09] importantly, there's 7.3
billion from  this program
[1:33:14] going to  the state from
formula f unds, they will have
[1:33:19] additional  fund tog invest in
these k ind of resilient
[1:33:20] transportation  initiatives,
so
something that might be
[1:33:24] valuable  to the county in t
[1:33:26] faou khu, I  think that's it
time
[1:33:28] time
to  speak with you all and
[1:33:31] happy to  answer any questions
you m ay have, thanks very
[1:33:33] much
for the opportunity.
[1:33:33] >> thank you very m uch, any
questions?
[1:33:37] >> no, I just w ant to say
[1:33:38] thank you f or an excellent
report and  update, very
[1:33:43] informative, thank you.
>> thank  you.
[1:33:47] >> great  job, thank you.
>> thank  you.
[1:33:51] >> and  hope you enjoyed your
brief as  it was.
[1:33:55] brief as  it was.
>> you  know, I always say t
[1:33:58] next  time will hopefully be
longer.
[1:33:59] I'll bring the  family next
time, thank you very  much.
[1:34:03] >> thank  you.
>>  we'll hold you to that.
[1:34:05] >>  sorry, mr. Mayor, rarely
do
[1:34:12] we  hear such good news out
our federal partners  and I
[1:34:17] haven't heard o f a federal
cheery  and forward thinking
[1:34:20] cheery  and forward thinking
and I 'm excited you're on our
[1:34:23] team and wish I could g o to
dc
[1:34:25] but I  can't, maybe next time.
>> personally, I would  like
[1:34:28] the spend as  much of that
transportation money as we
[1:34:33] can
get o ur hands on.
We have p lans.
[1:34:37] >>  as we're about to hear I
believe.
[1:34:38] >> yes.
>> thank you.
[1:34:39] >> greg, I  do have a
question,
[1:34:43] when we're  talking about the
monroe  county coastal storm
[1:34:47] management  and the u.s. 1
revampment and that w as part
[1:34:49] of  the army corps of
engineers
[1:34:51] the, came I n and they did
that
[1:34:55] three year study  and we were
[1:34:55] told on more  than one
occasion, it's going to be
[1:34:59] put
in a big  bind and her we'll
[1:35:00] be
with  all of the other area
[1:35:04] that  are also doing these
[1:35:05] types of study and  is the
[1:35:07] likelihood  of us getting
picked
[1:35:13] picked
out of  it and funded was not
[1:35:17] very high,  how do you see u
some
[1:35:21] some
of  these projects funded?
[1:35:23] >> you  know, I won't down
play
[1:35:26] the difficulty of getting t he
kind of f unding that's been
[1:35:30] recommended f or this project,
I m ean, I mentioned this is
[1:35:34] going to  be something that
time.
[1:35:35] time.
It is n ot easy to get new
[1:35:38] projects started by t he army
corps because they  have so
[1:35:42] much  work already ongoing bu
[1:35:42] if you  don't start, then --
don't have  the plans
[1:35:46] don't have  the plans
developed, then t he next time
[1:35:49] a storm h its, you have sort
of
[1:35:51] -- there  are some
opportunities to get  this
[1:35:54] funded both t hrough the
regular f ederal funding
[1:35:57] cycles
as well as  should a storm
[1:35:59] hit,
the c ongress often will make
[1:36:02] funding a vailable and will
fund some projects  that have
[1:36:05] basically been  studied even
if
[1:36:06] they haven't  been
funnelbacker
[1:36:10] funded, if anything else, it
some
[1:36:14] some
funding a fter another
disaster
[1:36:17] but we're c ertainly working
hard  as is congressman
[1:36:21] jimenez
and certainly with  the
support
[1:36:25] of senators r uby and scott to
[1:36:28] push forward  and get this
planning  work started so they
[1:36:32] can be  fully ready to break
[1:36:32] ground  and do work as soon
know,
[1:36:34] know,
clear
[1:36:49] clear
answer, it's  a challenge,
[1:36:52] we're g oing to work to work
on
it.
[1:36:56] >> the  plan was already a
[1:36:58] billion dollars and w e were
fund
[1:37:00] fund
this, wla's t he point of
[1:37:04] having  the plan, luckily we
had a nother storm two years
[1:37:07] later and all of a  sudden
[1:37:10] money became available  and we
[1:37:13] had to  plan, here it is, an
[1:37:18] they  got fund, that's what
ready, here I t is, hopefully
[1:37:23] ready, here I t is, hopefully
storm, but  maybe money will
[1:37:26] storm, but  maybe money will
become  available, so tla's
[1:37:27] why
it's important to have a plan.
Er
[1:37:29] >>  having sat  up here for
[1:37:31] more than a  couple of days
now, I  realize that
[1:37:35] hurricanes
are problems but  they also
[1:37:35] create  opportunities if
ready to  take advantage of
[1:37:39] ready to  take advantage of
[1:37:42] them and I  think that's what
and m onroe county typically
[1:37:47] and m onroe county typically
does  a pretty good job of
[1:37:51] being r eady to take advantage
[1:37:56] of  those opportunities, so
thank you v ery much, both of
[1:38:02] you, for  what you do becaus
[1:38:05] it's  -- and lisa, it always
[1:38:06] amazes me t hat your depth of
owe you a  great deal.
[1:38:12] owe you a  great deal.
Thank y ou.
>> thank  you.
[1:38:17] >>  mayor, did you want to
take
[1:38:18] a b reak?
>>  no.
[1:38:19] >> we do  need a motion on
that
[1:38:22] item.
>> move t o approve.
>> second.
[1:38:24] er
>> we have a  motion and a
[1:38:29] second, h earing no objection,
the I tem is approved.
[1:38:30] >> can I  make a motion to go
[1:38:35] to the restroom.
[1:49:05] >> and  we will take a short
>>  I'll second that.
[1:49:10] >>  I'll second that.
( meeting I n brief recess ).
[1:49:16] >>  mayor,  we don't have
[1:49:19] another I tem until 11:00, so
[1:49:20] we were g oing to call the
presentation will take  about
[1:49:25] presentation will take  about
7 m inutes, is that okay?
[1:49:32] 7 m inutes, is that okay?
[1:49:40] >>  okay.
>> this w ill help us get out
[1:49:44] early .
[1:49:45] >>  good.
[1:49:48] >>  so, we're still o n a
for 7  more minutes?
[1:59:49] for 7  more minutes?
>>  yes.
[1:59:53] ( m eeting in recess ).
>> okay,  board of county
[1:59:56] commissioners.
>> your next  item is going to
[1:59:59] be  on page 12, item p1,
attorney report f or june 2022.
[2:00:05] attorney report f or june 2022.
>> you're up, b ob.
[2:00:09] >>  will theser, so, there's
read
[2:00:16] read
into  record and request a
[2:00:22] couple of t hings.
The county  is currently if
[2:00:27] litigation with - -
>> we c an't hear you.
[2:00:29] >>  these are sensitive
microphones.
[2:00:29] er kufrjts hear me now?
>>  yes.
[2:00:35] >> alright, s o the county's
counter in litigation in  the
[2:00:40] matter  of tammy lee versus
monroe  count tu case number
[2:00:41] cv10041, the southern
district
[2:00:42] of florida, I n eed your
advice
[2:00:44] concerning litigation,
request
you schedule  a private
[2:00:47] meeting, this w ill be
confined
[2:00:51] to  settlement negotiations
related t o lit expenditures,
[2:00:56] persons in attendance will  be
the c ounty commissioners,
[2:00:59] county  commissioner, myself,
cynthia hall  and special
[2:01:04] cynthia hall  and special
outside counsel chris s terns
[2:01:08] from   -- and a certified
court
[2:01:11] reporter by l aw, no other
meeting,  it is estimated to
[2:01:14] meeting,  it is estimated to
be
[2:01:14] 30 minutes, t he court
reporter
[2:01:16] shall record  the times of
tof meeting, all  discussions
[2:01:20] tof meeting, all  discussions
paren at  any time and all
[2:01:25] paren at  any time and all
persons speak,  the court
[2:01:30] reporter's reports  will be
trance transcribed, sealed
[2:01:32] and
part  of the public record at
[2:01:34] the c onclusion of litigation,
can I get a  motion to
[2:01:38] schedule
a closed session  at the july
[2:01:41] 20, 2022  meeting in marathon
beginning a t 1:30 p.m. Or
[2:01:44] soon
thereafter as m ay be header.
[2:01:45] >> so moved.
>> second.
Er
[2:01:52] >> we have  a motion and a
[2:01:55] second, the I tem is approved.
Going a sk for a closed
[2:02:01] going a sk for a closed
session
[2:02:05] on  is  [inaudible] sim trust
farm  llc versus monroe
[2:02:10] farm  llc versus monroe
county,
[2:02:13] case  number 19ca460p, I need
your advice c oncerning that
[2:02:18] litigation, we  request you
schedule  the closed session,
[2:02:22] the subject matter  will be
confined  to settlement
[2:02:24] negotiation,  litigation
expenditures, t he
commissioners, myself,
[2:02:27] outside
counsel, andrew mai,  assist
[2:02:30] tan county  attorney peter
morris, a c ertified court
[2:02:34] reporter, by  law, no other
persons s hall be permitted at
[2:02:38] the meeting,  it will take
approximately 30 minutes, t he
[2:02:41] court r eporter shall
transcribe the  times of
[2:02:42] commencement, termination o f
the meeting, all  discussions
[2:02:45] and p roceedings, all persons
present,  all persons
[2:02:47] speaking,
the c ourt reporter's notes
[2:02:50] will  be fully transcribed,
sealed and filed with t he
[2:02:55] clerk, the transcribe w ill be
get
[2:02:57] get
a m otion to schedule this
[2:03:00] closed  session in marathon at
1:30 or s oon thereafter as
[2:03:02] may
be heard.
.
[2:03:02] er so moved.
Er
>> second.
[2:03:04] er
>> we have a motion ask a
[2:03:07] second, h earing no objection,
approved.
[2:03:10] >> alright, the last thing  is
in  early this morning,
[2:03:15] in  early this morning,
remember  the collins davis
[2:03:18] case, one o f our takings
cases
[2:03:20] that  started in 2004, we
think
[2:03:24] we have t he final, final,
[2:03:26] final last  ruling  and that
[2:03:28] case will f inally be put to
[2:03:29] bed, so t he third district
court of  appeal this morning
[2:03:34] affirmed  the lower court
ruling on h ow the attorney's
[2:03:36] fees were handled,  there was
a
[2:03:38] dispute between t he property
owner's former attorney a nd
[2:03:41] their current a ttorney, we
were somehow dragged  into
[2:03:43] that
dispute, but  18 years later
[2:03:46] and I t's done, what started
they were demanding, it w as
[2:03:51] they were demanding, it w as
about a d ozen property owners
[2:03:54] demanding I think it  was the
[2:03:56] number  I heard early on wa
[2:03:59] like 30 m illion, we ended up
[2:04:02] paying out  from the county
side under  300 thousand for
[2:04:05] the j udgment, the fees, costs
while to  get those things
[2:04:08] while to  get those things
>>  that's the understatement
[2:04:11] >>  that's the understatement
of  the century.
[2:04:15] >> so,  that's my report.
>>  well, congratulations,
[2:04:19] thank y ou.
>> okay, next I tem.
[2:04:23] er yes, y our next item is o
[2:04:25] page  10, item o3, it's my
[2:04:28] understanding ms. Hague w ill
be  here by zoom, presentation
[2:04:32] under the c ontract with hdr
inc.  For t he roads
[2:04:36] vulnerability  analysis and
stained road and is related
[2:04:37] stained road and is related
services, of a project update
[2:04:42] on the  final vulnerable and
criticality assessment
[2:04:47] results
billion for t he roadsters
[2:04:52] billion for t he roadsters
adaptation capital  plan.
[2:04:55] >> good m orning, so, today --
good  morning.
[2:04:59] here we a re at the end of o
[2:05:01] road elevation planning
project, so t oday will be
[2:05:03] your
we will have  one later in th
[2:05:07] we will have  one later in th
[2:05:10] fall  for a policy discussion,
so today  you're going to hear
[2:05:14] from  emilio about what the
having good n ews about that,
[2:05:17] having good n ews about that,
we're going t o show how
[2:05:19] public
participation can b e
enhanced,
[2:05:20] we're going to show h ow the
[2:05:22] public can go o n there and
[2:05:25] look up t heir road and see
[2:05:26] where it  is on the plan and
[2:05:28] what  the plans are for that,
bit m ore about just
[2:05:30] bit m ore about just
everything
[2:05:32] that's going  on, what a
typical road  elevation
[2:05:35] project
looks like and  what these
[2:05:38] conceptual designs have done
and you're  going the hear
[2:05:42] emilio talk about h ow these
plan ares going to  be
[2:05:44] uploaded
to the website, I  think you
[2:05:46] heard this  morning how all
these p lans are important, so
[2:05:50] in our  next item at 11:30,
how
[2:05:51] how
we used a ll of this
[2:05:54] information that we u sed in
these projects  and how
[2:05:56] they're
feeding into  our grant
[2:05:56] applications  for the
florida program a nd hopefully
[2:06:01] florida program a nd hopefully
other g rant programs too, and
[2:06:06] I w ant to welcome judy clark
joining u s, emilio is with
[2:06:10] you
there t oday as is aaron di
[2:06:12] and our o ther team member is
you again,  with that, we're
[2:06:17] you again,  with that, we're
going to  go ahead and start.
[2:06:22] >> thank  you, good morning,
commissioners.
[2:06:25] I imagine will  the
presentation  be shown, ronda?
[2:06:28] yeah, I'm waiting.
[2:06:32] >> just give  him a minute.
Er yeah, it will  happen.
[2:06:55] er yeah, it will  happen.
[2:07:00] >>  good morning, judy.
[2:07:21] >> good m orning.
[2:07:24] >> that is  the the
follow up w ith.
[2:07:28] follow up w ith.
>> it's a  lot of images.
[2:07:33] rhonda, you s ee the
presentation?
[2:07:38] >> yes, we can see  it.
[2:07:47] we can  see it.
>> you  can be the star tof
[2:07:52] show  while you're presenting.
>>  okay.
Well, g ood morning,
[2:07:54] commissioners, again,
thankers
for the o pportunity, it's
[2:07:56] been
working on  this project, so
[2:08:02] working on  this project, so
appreciate you  haerg us out,
[2:08:07] appreciate you  haerg us out,
I'm e milio with engineering,
[2:08:11] the lead  project work
witching
[2:08:12] our teamm ates, erin and greg
mentioned the analysis  has
[2:08:16] mentioned the analysis  has
been complete, today  you'll
[2:08:19] see a c ompletion of the
conceptual  design, the cost
[2:08:23] estimates a nd also the
adaptation  plan what we have
[2:08:28] here from o ur project areas,
know
[2:08:29] know
everything starts off w ith
the
[2:08:34] sea l evel rise projections,
these are c onsistent with the
[2:08:38] currently adopted p rojections
for t he southeast regional
[2:08:41] climate compactfinger t hese
were issued b ack in 2019,
[2:08:43] what
they indicate at this p oint
is
[2:08:45] by 2025,  we can anticipate
looking at  the water levels
[2:08:48] to
date, it's going  the increase
[2:08:50] about an inch and a h alf
[2:08:53] within  the next three and a
an  additional 10fishmongers
[2:08:57] an  additional 10fishmongers
and a h alf by 2045, an
[2:09:02] additional 11 I nches by 2060
by
[2:09:04] by
2100, you're  looking within
[2:09:08] the next  78 yaoe, 5.5 feet of
[2:09:11] increase, you may k now that
not l inear, it's
[2:09:13] not l inear, it's
exponentially
[2:09:15] growth and  this takes factors
other t han historical date
[2:09:19] taxer it  looks at the melting
and all t hose other stuff
[2:09:22] that
is factored in  so there are
[2:09:26] several things looked I nto
that stuff, but I  wanted to
[2:09:31] give you  a perspective, we're
foot tall p erson.
[2:09:35] foot tall p erson.
>>  just to clarify that, is
[2:09:38] that increased  from this year
started these projections?
[2:09:41] started these projections?
>>  what you're showing here,
[2:09:45] correct, from 2 025 is we're
looking at being able t o
[2:09:49] provide t hat projection, the
addition is I n between those
[2:09:54] segments  so, the 10.5 inches
[2:09:54] will  be from 2025 to 2045,
[2:09:58] you
can ant p ate based on
[2:10:02] projections it  will be
increasing  by 10.5 inches.
[2:10:06] the s ea level rise provides
the basis,  but down here,
[2:10:09] especially in south n ror
abasing also  in monroe
[2:10:13] county,
it also a ffects the king
[2:10:16] tides, we d o see them, they
exacerbate when y ou have
[2:10:21] storms out  there, we can with
[2:10:22] the l  els and the value wes
[2:10:23] have here,  we can look at
[2:10:27] future  predictions of what's
going to  take place and how
[2:10:32] it's  going to increase, 2045,
of
[2:10:33] of
depth, roadway  segments and
[2:10:37] increasing all the  way to 3.5
[2:10:40] feet of d epth by 2060, these
cannot  ignore currently we do
[2:10:43] cannot  ignore currently we do
[2:10:45] have that vulnerable, there
[2:10:49] are l ow lying areas where you
[2:10:53] have flooding and I t's fot
[2:10:55] only  the fact that you see
[2:10:56] salt  water or sea level rise
if
[2:11:00] if
it stays on t he surface
longer
[2:11:02] times, it p ercolate and is
you
[2:11:06] will see  the flood areas
throughout the  county.
[2:11:11] as part o f the project
overall, a  recap we have done
[2:11:16] throughout the time,  we can
make  the keys more resilient,
[2:11:20] we did  an evaluation of
several y ears, the short term
[2:11:25] ask long  term, we looked at
2025, b etween five year
[2:11:29] intervals 2 , 160, 2500, we
looked  at sea level rise
[2:11:31] which
is throughout websinger a dded
[2:11:35] the component t of king tide
[2:11:37] tha,'s an item you  can see
[2:11:40] today, it's I n the today and
[2:11:41] something that was able t o
allow us  to model and
[2:11:45] identify
the I mpacts of the king ti
[2:11:48] for a ll the county maintained
roadways, we were able  to
[2:11:52] look
and extreme events, a ll this
[2:11:56] and extreme events, a ll this
was t o look at those while
[2:12:01] was t o look at those while
projected w ater surface
[2:12:04] elevations, conducting
vulnerability and
[2:12:08] prioritization evaluation, we
saw the I r yas of concern,
[2:12:13] when will t hese areas are
going t o be impacted, define
[2:12:17] what  are the project
elements,
[2:12:18] and permitting  to evaluate
the
preliminary cost  estimates.
[2:12:24] so, the I nitiative for the
pronlt, we  started with six
[2:12:29] main  tasks, tasks 1-3 have
been completed websinger ear
[2:12:32] at the  tail end of 4, 5 a
6,
[2:12:35] the p olicy review, the hope
to
[2:12:39] be wrapping it  up within the
next  month.
[2:12:40] I think I t's important, I
want
[2:12:43] to touch base a gain, the
vulnerability a nd the
[2:12:47] criticality, that was key to
be  able to identify not only
[2:12:51] identify  the vulnerable areas
but h ow do we prioritize the
[2:12:56] segments, we  started off by
every r oad is equally
[2:12:59] important, we wanted  to
provide a n unbias assessment
[2:13:03] of  all the roadways, that
took
[2:13:06] six m onths of data gatherin
all the d ata, we start
[2:13:09] all the d ata, we start
witched
[2:13:12] a two s tep process, the firs
websinger h ad 1200
[2:13:15] websinger h ad 1200
independent
[2:13:18] roadway siemens that  we were
analyzing all t his through
[2:13:23] gis, that's a n important tool
we use  throughout, we
[2:13:26] evaluated t he environmental
factors o r the structural
[2:13:28] integrity o f these roadway
siemens and d eveloped five
[2:13:31] factors and looked  at the
surface I mplementation, the
[2:13:35] groundwater clearance,  the
impacts o f wave humdinger, we
[2:13:38] had d ata about the existing
conditions of t he pavement,
[2:13:39] we
met with the  planning
[2:13:41] department, w ith the county
planning department a nd we
[2:13:45] were  able to prioritize what
are those f actors we truly
[2:13:50] want to f ocus on, it doesn't
aren't important, r oadway
[2:13:54] aren't important, r oadway
surface inundation  and the
[2:13:55] groundwater clearance which
la
[2:13:58] the h igher percentage, it
and t ailor the assessment to
[2:14:02] and t ailor the assessment to
client.
[2:14:05] client.
The groundwater here
[2:14:08] the groundwater here
clearance
[2:14:11] is  important because the lime
rock  of the keys almost
[2:14:18] provides a ratio  of a one to
[2:14:21] one sea level rise  in the
[2:14:22] groundwater s o when the sea
groundwater level goes up,  we
[2:14:26] groundwater level goes up,  we
where you're going  to have
[2:14:29] where you're going  to have
high groundwater and in a
[2:14:33] couple  of years, that will b
surface water in  that case.
[2:14:36] we were able to o btain a
vulnerability score for e ach
[2:14:39] one o f those 1200 segments
it ideas the  areas of
[2:14:41] it ideas the  areas of
concern,
[2:14:44] we needed to  look at how do
we
[2:14:47] prioritize these areas, this
criticality analysis, we
[2:14:49] criticality analysis, we
looked  at those factors
[2:14:53] inxlaouns u r oused by the
human nature, we  had 7
[2:14:56] factors
here  which is more than the
[2:15:00] other one a nd startd off with
the n umber of residential
[2:15:04] the n umber of residential
units,  critical facility,
[2:15:07] environmental factors w here
evacuation route  and then
[2:15:09] evacuation route  and then
also
[2:15:12] the u se of the particular
parcel.
[2:15:14] and again t hrough
coordination
[2:15:17] with  the county, we were able
factors which w ere the
[2:15:21] factors which w ere the
vulnerability score, the
[2:15:23] number of r esidential units
and the r oadway associated
[2:15:27] with critical f acilities.
Again, not  that the virtual
[2:15:28] is
important, it's v ery
[2:15:30] important, we're  talk about
existing roadways so  there's
[2:15:34] ways  to mitigate that,
there's
[2:15:36] ways  of mitigating that
right-of-way impact, those
[2:15:40] can
be  managed and engineered
[2:15:44] without c reating, you're not
carving a b rand new roadway
[2:15:48] and w iping out environmental
features which would  be
[2:15:49] critical.
Before we jump  into how we
[2:15:52] developed the project a reas
and t he cost estimate, I want
[2:15:57] to give you a  quick update of
approach  the adaptation
[2:16:00] approach  the adaptation
improvements.
Previous presentation,  you've
[2:16:02] seen  there's different
typical
[2:16:04] sections  all throughout, even
though 90% of t he pronlt
[2:16:08] limit
ares residential  in nature
televising's different
[2:16:10] typical,  that varies
depending
[2:16:12] on the  ground elevation t
right o f way width, how clo
[2:16:16] the properties may  be there
and
[2:16:17] and
so on, so t here's several
[2:16:19] factors that allows u s to
approach that, however, we
[2:16:24] did
have  a very similar unique
[2:16:25] approach and  that's an
example
[2:16:28] here of the w ay we approach
[2:16:31] the analysis of a ll the
[inaudible] on  tavernier
[2:16:34] [inaudible] on  tavernier
ocean
[2:16:37] shores as c ase study, it's a
rod t hat it's abutting
[2:16:41] environmental a rea, stinger
road, you can s ee the
[2:16:42] right-of-way  where the
properties, where the fence
[2:16:46] is, you h ave some utilities,
the existing  -- the lowest
[2:16:52] the existing  -- the lowest
[2:16:55] part  of the roadway elevation
at  the projections, water by
[2:16:59] at  the projections, water by
2025, s ea rise alone is
[2:17:03] anticipated to  go up 2.26
feet, t hat's 16 inches above
[2:17:05] that  existing low ground
[2:17:08] area,
so we look  at as part of the
[2:17:15] adaptation part o f it is in
[2:17:18] this particular case, y ou can
it, a  concrete barrier wall
[2:17:20] it, a  concrete barrier wall
mitigate  those environmental
[2:17:23] mitigate  those environmental
impacts a nd right-of-way
[2:17:27] impacts a nd collect the
stormwater and added  the
[2:17:30] stormwater system,  this is 16
inches  above the existing
[2:17:32] site
today and we've a dded a
[2:17:34] stormwater  or a closed
stormwater system, what t his
[2:17:39] does  is by 2045 when sea
level
[2:17:43] rise goes up  to that 2.26, w
[2:17:45] know that r oadway is going to
[2:17:48] be dry most o f the year,
[2:17:49] however king  tides are ant
in
[2:17:52] in
avd, it will  exceed the
[2:17:55] existing surface, that's when
you h ave the system being
[2:17:58] able
to pump that watt t ore the
[2:18:01] system, remember  the king
sides a re a temporary
[2:18:04] condition, they're able k eep
that roadway dry  in that
[2:18:08] particular  case, you could
raise the r oadway more in
[2:18:10] this
particular case, you  would
[2:18:12] have to raise it  by an
[2:18:13] additional 14 inches in o rder
to guarantee  that at least
[2:18:16] you
can t ry to maintain it dry
[2:18:17] all
year round, a t that point,
you
[2:18:20] will  have right-of-way
impacts
[2:18:21] and you have  to analyze
furthermore e ven the
[2:18:25] accessibility to  some of
these
[2:18:26] property the higher y ou raise
it, the more  you will
[2:18:29] impocket
those components.
In  a similar manner,
[2:18:33] [inaudible] road and  also
here
[2:18:35] in  tavernier ocean shores, we
chose this one  because you
[2:18:41] don't have  environmental on
both sides, we  have a wider
[2:18:47] right of  way, similar manner,
there's a  higher elevation,
[2:18:51] this  has 1.64 feet avd
existing, when  you look at
[2:18:54] sea
level r ise of 2045 tha,'s
[2:18:55] osier inches  from the
existing
[2:18:59] ground, in  a similar manner,
roadway,  approximately 10
[2:19:02] roadway,  approximately 10
inches  above the existing
[2:19:06] ground, that's  the edge of
pavements and we  added a
[2:19:10] stormwater  system here, for
sea level r ise for 2045,
[2:19:12] you'll be a ble to maintain
roadway dry there a nd when
[2:19:14] roadway dry there a nd when
you
[2:19:17] do  have those king tides
situations, the stormwater
[2:19:20] system will be  able to
mitigate them,  this is an
[2:19:22] approach  we use all
throughout
[2:19:24] but in some c ases also and
[2:19:27] here also again if you  would
[2:19:28] like to m aintain the roadway
drier a ll throughout and make
[2:19:33] the increase  because you do
have  the right-of-way, you
[2:19:35] may
minimize some o f the impacts
[2:19:37] to be able  to increase those
[2:19:38] additional 14 inches  to be
above t he king tide waters
[2:19:43] and
provide that dry there, t he
[2:19:47] stormwater system f rom the
from  the permanent
[2:19:49] requirement
x you don't c ontribute to any
[2:19:52] flooding  along the properties.
Third option here and t he
[2:19:55] last
one here  that we have -- go
[2:20:00] ahead, commissioner.
>> could  we go back, my
[2:20:04] impression  is in 2045, people
[2:20:06] in that   neighborhood will be
[2:20:09] able to d rive the road if we
[2:20:11] elevate it  and be dry, and
[2:20:13] when they t urn off into their
[2:20:13] yards, they h ave z will have
have
[2:20:18] have
we  accomplished?
[2:20:20] >> some p roperty so it
[2:20:22] varies, - - some property it
varies, some of t hem are
[2:20:27] high,
some of them  are low, and you
[2:20:29] may h ave some circumstances
there,  the roadway system
[2:20:32] will
be  able to capture the king
[2:20:35] tide conditions and a ddress
[2:20:35] it, but a ny sea level rise if
[2:20:37] you have  a low property or
come  framing the backyard,
[2:20:42] the
system  will not directly be
[2:20:43] collecting that w ater there,
depending again and t hose are
[2:20:46] also some o f the
circumstances, it goes  with
[2:20:50] raising the r oad, the higher
[2:20:52] you raise I t, you build up a
[2:20:55] little berm I n that area, so
[2:20:55] that is a  factor of how much
the
[2:20:57] the
roadway in addition to  the
[2:21:02] other components as r ight of
way a nd other impacts.
[2:21:06] >> so,  the individual home
owners will have to b e
[2:21:10] looking
at  additional elevations to
[2:21:13] match that  of the road if
they
[2:21:17] don't want  to turn off into
road?
[2:21:20] road?
>>  there's -- and erin will
[2:21:22] touch m ore on this
information
[2:21:24] because I t's comprehensive
approach, it is p art of a
[2:21:27] comprehensive approach
at one  point, and we saw it
[2:21:29] at one  point, and we saw it
on
[2:21:33] shau u  shaw drive when they
[2:21:34] install t ed tefp rare dams
[2:21:38] where it  served its purpose,
[2:21:41] it kept t he water from come
[2:21:43] ining there,  if you have low
[2:21:44] ground  elevation t salt wate
seeps f rom the grouped, so
[2:21:47] raise t hing ground
comprehensively in  the area,
[2:21:49] that will b e an ultimate
[2:21:53] solution.
>> I  think it's necessary for
[2:21:56] the p ublic to understand that
[2:21:59] at great  cost, we can elevate
of the  cost.
[2:22:04] of the  cost.
The end o f the cost is whe
[2:22:05] they  elevate their property
[2:22:05] as
going
[2:22:10] going
to  have to change some of o
[2:22:14] codes in  order to allow them
[2:22:17] to do t hat.
There's a m yriad of issues
[2:22:21] all
elevations  that present
[2:22:24] elevations  that present
policy
[2:22:27] would n ot allow, so this can
long  road.
[2:22:31] long  road.
>>  yes.
>>  a long, windy road.
[2:22:37] >>  yes.
>>  well, --
[2:22:40] >>  you noticed staff laughed
anybody else, t hey know
[2:22:44] anybody else, t hey know
they're supposed to l augh.
[2:22:47] >> one thing  that is pornts,
[2:22:49] all throughout, one t hing we
solution, again w ebsinger
[2:22:51] solution, again w ebsinger
cannot always apply t he same
[2:22:55] for a ll, there's some
circumstances, like for
[2:22:58] example t elevising's a small
segment here we identified
[2:23:01] that the  approaches of this
particular  road in here,
[2:23:05] point
view, h ave a good existing
[2:23:08] elevation,  there's a low dip
on  the 90 degree elbow
[2:23:12] elevation there,  so you're
looking at  that low elevation
[2:23:15] there, when y ou are thinking
about providing a s olution,
[2:23:16] it
doesn't seem practical  to
[2:23:19] provide a  whole pump station
system and  invest thaul for
[2:23:24] just 200  feet of raise thing
[2:23:25] roadway, so I w anted to bring
did e valuate each location,
[2:23:30] did e valuate each location,
when we s ee there's enough
[2:23:32] right-of-way, you d on't have
the properties abutting on
[2:23:33] the
side, if you  raise the
roadway
[2:23:35] you, ear not going the
contribute to the f looding
[2:23:39] and
we're n ot winding the asphalt
[2:23:41] footprint, you're able to
raise the roadway, be a ble to
[2:23:46] address t he permitting
requirements without
affecting
[2:23:50] the e xisting [inaudible] and
being able  to implement the
[2:23:55] improvement and not p rovide a
supplemental  with a pump
[2:23:56] system, rather  than raising
it
[2:23:59] to try  to meet the sea level
[2:24:02] rise in t his particular case,
[2:24:04] you r aise a roadway, it will
ground with n o stormwater
[2:24:08] ground with n o stormwater
system, when sea  level rise
[2:24:10] takes place, it will  be no
king
[2:24:11] king
tide conditions, it will not
[2:24:13] be  an issue, so this is
something that  some
[2:24:17] particular
cases w as evaluated all
[2:24:19] throughout  wherever possible
impacts and m ore important
[2:24:22] impacts and m ore important
the
construction  costs.
[2:24:28] the neighborhood  area, so as
you recall, w e got a
[2:24:33] criticality value for e ach of
those 1200  roadway segments,
[2:24:34] when we s tarted looking at
it,
[2:24:37] it  doesn't seem practical to
have  1200 individual roadway
[2:24:40] projects  so, we started
wrapping  them and identifying
[2:24:44] into  particular project areas
how t o implement that, we
[2:24:47] how t o implement that, we
came
[2:24:51] out with  83 comprehensive
areas all t hroughout the keys
[2:24:55] extending f rom [inaudible]
road all the  way down the ke
[2:25:00] west, w e're able to
graphically place t hem in the
[2:25:02] gis and [inaudible] a little
bit more  because this is
[2:25:06] available on  the project
website,  you can see where
[2:25:08] those p roject areas are, and
here's  a quick summary, I
[2:25:13] know
it's a   lot of dots but thi
[2:25:15] shows from  here the upper
keys
[2:25:20] show casing w hat are those
project o r neighborhood areas
[2:25:24] and then up a  little bit more
[2:25:25] on  the adaptation plan, the
red corresponds t o those
[2:25:28] plans
vulnerable  to 2025, the
[2:25:31] mrao  u, vulnerable by 2030.
Available on  the website?
[2:25:33] available on  the website?
.
[2:25:34] er it's o n the project
website
[2:25:38] and I have  a section here
navigate  and access the
[2:25:41] navigate  and access the
information.
[2:25:43] .
Er thank you.
[2:25:45] >> and  then you see the lower
all
[2:25:49] all
throughout that pretty  much
[2:25:52] with eel  work our way down t
[2:25:54] the k ey west area, this is
the c ounty maintained
[2:25:58] the c ounty maintained
unincorporated maintained
roadway s ections.
[2:26:03] now, we h ave those project
is we w ent ahead and
[2:26:07] is we w ent ahead and
developed
[2:26:09] the conceptual  plans for each
[2:26:10] one o f these areas, this wa
you
[2:26:13] you
two things, it  gives you the
[2:26:18] praot fript   -- footprint of
[2:26:18] your project limit and  is
assess what a re your
[2:26:21] assess what a re your
environmental issue a nd is
[2:26:26] constraints w e will encounter
estimate, we  took that in,
[2:26:29] estimate, we  took that in,
adaptation plan a nd the
[2:26:32] adaptation plan a nd the
program c ost, in summary, we
[2:26:35] looked at f rit the adaptation
plan by y ear of projected
[2:26:40] impact, s o by 2025, being
considered  as a year
[2:26:42] projected
vulnerability, we found t he
[2:26:44] upper keys, you'll be a ble to
have  16 neighborhood areas
[2:26:49] that  will become vulnerable
and t hen four phased
[2:26:51] neighborhood areas is p art of
a neighborhood area,  for
[2:26:55] example, you have a  whole
vulnerable by 2 025 and the
[2:26:59] vulnerable by 2 025 and the
rest  may be vulnerable by
[2:27:02] 2035
and there's t hat option to
[2:27:05] implement it  in a phased
approach, t o not implement
[2:27:10] everything at once, you c an,
but I t gives you that
[2:27:12] marketability to  address
those
areas of  concern.
[2:27:17] we also have  in the middle
[2:27:20] keys  and the lower keys sx,
[2:27:22] what was interesting  is that
by  2025, if we're looking a
[2:27:26] the 2045  projections, that
includes by 2045, we  ant pate
[2:27:29] the 5 0% of those neighborhood
[2:27:29] areas w ill be vulnerable,
falls in  within that
[2:27:37] falls in  within that
particular  year.
[2:27:41] this  is in total 35 complet
neighborhood  areas, 14
[2:27:46] [inaudible] n eighborhood
areas, 888  million dollars
and
[2:27:49] the p ump stations itself, we
annual operation and
[2:27:53] annual operation and
maintenance c ost, the
[2:27:54] electricity,  the maintenance
for a particular period and
[2:27:58] for t he year, we're looking
at
[2:28:02] at least for  all the projects
implemented a t once, 1.6
[2:28:05] million d ollars of annual
operational costs.
.
[2:28:06] inger is  this slide available
is
[2:28:09] is
there a way you c an get this
[2:28:13] to  us?
>> yes, y es, we'll work with
[2:28:17] rhonda, I t's not available on
the website itself websinger
[2:28:23] can work  with rhonda and be
able  to provide that.
[2:28:27] >>  the lower keys cost
estimate.
[2:28:28] >> 657 million  in the lower
keys.
.
[2:28:32] inger I t's hard to see on
that.
[2:28:34] >> yeah, up t here, it doesn't
show.
[2:28:37] >> you can  see the upper
[2:28:40] keys,
the lower k eys, that's the
one
[2:28:45] that had  5  -- 6z 5 mile
lower keys.
[2:28:48] lower keys.
>>  this is rhonda, I wanted
[2:28:50] to
bring your  attention the fact
[2:28:53] there a re 35 neighborhood
areas f or this year, 2025,
[2:28:58] you'll hear u s discuss this
[2:28:58] when we g et to our resilient
discussion, these are t he
[2:29:04] discussion, these are t he
neighborhood pareses  we're
[2:29:09] choosing  from, from our grant
applications.
[2:29:12] >>  so, this is 2025, if
year
[2:29:15] year
of projected vulnerability,
at
[2:29:17] the end, you will see the
in
[2:29:20] in
the upper keys, you c an see
[2:29:24] less area t hat is are
anticipated by 2030,  the
[2:29:26] lower
keys, there was nothing I n
the
[2:29:29] middle keys, you  can see by
2030, that that's a n
[2:29:33] additional 10% of t he
neighborhood  areas for 2045
[2:29:37] for a t otal of approximately
18 miles, so  an initial
[2:29:41] construction  cost of 179
million and o n yule
[2:29:44] operational c ost of 139
thousand  for this area.
[2:29:47] >>  I have another question.
How do  you pull the trigger
[2:29:52] on
those dates b ecause we all
[2:29:57] know that f looding starts a
[2:30:00] little bit  a few days a year,
year, a  little more department
[2:30:04] year, a  little more department
along.
[2:30:04] along.
Where a long that progression
[2:30:07] did y ou say, okay, this is
problem?
[2:30:12] problem?
Now, remember, it   -- and I
[2:30:20] now, remember, it   -- and I
[2:30:23] agree w ith you, we  f it's a
[2:30:25] dynamic,  we look ted at 2045
accuracy  of the lidar, that's
[2:30:28] accuracy  of the lidar, that's
the benefit o f having done
[2:30:30] that, we  were able to
identify
[2:30:31] those low l ying areas and
look
[2:30:34] at  the information so be able
remember  the roadway
[2:30:38] remember  the roadway
sometimes,  they're not
plateau
[2:30:41] in  all asepses, they're vary
rid and d ifferent, with that,
[2:30:46] we're a ble to clearly see a
those a reas, that's the main
[2:30:50] tool we use to  be able to
[2:30:52] identify those areas  and then
[2:30:53] we pretty m uch graph them and
[2:30:56] are able  to look at by 2025
[2:30:58] which a re the areas we're
[2:31:00] going to  be doing, we had th
[2:31:01] total r esult, those 83 is for
reach 2045, y ou can
[2:31:04] reach 2045, y ou can
anticipate
[2:31:05] all those a reas will be
vulnerable.
[2:31:09] we  then started working ower
back  and then because
[2:31:13] everything doesn't happen a t
once, it  happens by area or
[2:31:16] by
time  period, by 2025, bew
were
[2:31:17] able to identify  those areas
that  will be impacted by
[2:31:22] king tides, 2030  and so on,
we
[2:31:22] worked our way  up until we
got
[2:31:24] that total.
>>  let me stop you because
[2:31:27] you're giving me  ra lot of
[2:31:28] information but I'm not sure
[2:31:31] you g ot my question, my
the road  is too much?
[2:31:36] the road  is too much?
>>  no, in this particular
[2:31:40] case, I a pologize, remember
that in o ur case here, we're
[2:31:44] looking a t just being in the
roadway I n the direction of
[2:31:46] the roadway overall how l ong
the
[2:31:47] the
sea level r ise, that gives
you
[2:31:50] more of --  you can say that's
[2:31:52] a permanent c ondition, when
that water  exceeds the
[2:31:55] surface, you  can anticipate
you're going to have  water on
[2:31:59] that  roadway for longer
periods of time,  the king
[2:32:00] tide
is a  more temporary condition
[2:32:03] and t hat varies overall, but
trying to s ee when it
[2:32:06] trying to s ee when it
exceeded
[2:32:07] but also  not to confuse you
more, groundwater I s very
[2:32:12] important to be a ble to keep
[2:32:14] track o f the roadways because
[2:32:16] even though you d on't see it
affecting the structural
[2:32:20] affecting the structural
integrity o f the roadway
[2:32:22] eventually to collapse, t la's
important to  monitor that
[2:32:26] there, for  the design, we're
looking a t whenever there
[2:32:29] will
be flooding on  the surface,
we
[2:32:35] considered  that as being
already impactful f or the
[2:32:43] community.
>> thank  you.
[2:32:46] >>  so, by 2035, we had the
[2:32:49] upper k eys, the lower keys,
neighborhood areas, t his
[2:32:51] neighborhood areas, t his
well,
[2:32:54] about 18  miles again of
construction  cossets and 307
[2:33:01] construction  cossets and 307
thousand  in cost estimates.
[2:33:05] the r emaining period between
2035 and  2045, we were able
[2:33:07] to
capture here, y ou did have
[2:33:10] project ins t he upper keys,
keys  that completed alt 30%
[2:33:13] keys  that completed alt 30%
of
[2:33:16] the neighborhood areas, I can
give you  that total area that
[2:33:21] we identified and w ith a
total
[2:33:25] of about  738 million and 368
thousand in o peration and
[2:33:30] maintenance,  we sum up all
[2:33:31] those values, you c an see by
includes  the neighborhood
[2:33:34] includes  the neighborhood
areas, includes t he
[2:33:39] comprehensive and t he phased
neighborhood areas, t hat's 49
[2:33:46] neighborhood areas, t hat's 49
additional  ten areas, by
[2:33:52] additional  ten areas, by
2035,
[2:33:56] 10  additional areas, that's
9.6 m illion per mile, I
[2:34:01] believe y ou've seen before
some  values was 8.8 billion,
[2:34:05] the reason  of the reduction,
identified some areas t hat
[2:34:06] identified some areas t hat
may
[2:34:08] not r equire a pump station
system, t hat itself translate
[2:34:13] intros  some cost savings all
throughout, there a re some
[2:34:17] segments that's --  that's
where t hat 200 million
[2:34:19] difference  overall is
connected.
[2:34:19] then you  can see also, you
can
[2:34:23] anticipate with all t he
projects  being in place, at
[2:34:27] least 3  million dollar annual
operation a nd maintenance
[2:34:30] cost
as well f or the pump station
[2:34:35] and is  the operation and
maintenance.
[2:34:38] for 2 045 in total, it's going
out
[2:34:44] out
of the  311 miles that the
[2:34:48] county  maintains, that's 53%
countywide.
[2:34:53] countywide.
Also along these  areas, you
[2:34:57] can f ind about  -- this is
the r esidential units along
[2:35:02] the r esidential units along
the county  maintained
[2:35:05] roadways, one o f the factors
was to  find where those
[2:35:10] residential densities a re, so
that's  what we're capturing
[2:35:14] and t hose most vulnerable
[2:35:17] areas look at t hat to be able
any q uestions?
[2:35:23] any q uestions?
>>  I feel like I was drin
[2:35:27] out of  a fire hose, but the
[2:35:29] bottom line I  take away from
lot of  money.
[2:35:32] lot of  money.
>> one thing  also to look at
[2:35:35] remember we u nderstand the
funding for all of  them may
[2:35:39] not b e done immediately, what
happens I s this gives you --
[2:35:42] it's looking  at those areas
that are vulnerable a nd the
[2:35:45] projects  that will need to b
implemented on  hand, if some
[2:35:50] projects are  not being
implemented f or some period,
[2:35:51] if they're supposed to  be
done
[2:35:54] in 2025, they c an be done at
[2:35:56] 2035, you have  to look at
[2:35:58] raising the road a  little bit
[2:36:01] more, if you  want to maintain
[2:36:04] a 2 0 year design life rather
[2:36:04] than 2045,  it will be then
higher  elevation.
[2:36:07] higher  elevation.
What  it will translate is t
[2:36:11] right o f way impacts, the
higher you  raise it, the more
[2:36:14] you will  have to tie back
into
[2:36:17] the property  but the idea of
[2:36:19] the study was t o provide this
[2:36:20] baseline basement and be able
to look a t the areas
[2:36:25] vulnerable and that's w hy we
selected  the 2045 target
[2:36:27] year,
it's  very dynamic vierm,
[2:36:27] hopefully it doesn't  get
worse
[2:36:31] at  this point as the
projections go down t he road
[2:36:36] but I d o get updated on
point, that's where
[2:36:39] point, that's where
information c an be replaced
[2:36:43] and a djust how that can be
[2:36:45] >> mr.  Mayor, thank you, I
[2:36:48] would like the  make a comment
mayor brought u p.
[2:36:54] mayor brought u p.
As we w ant to spend all thi
[2:36:59] money t o elevate the road and
mentioned b efore because of
[2:37:03] mentioned b efore because of
ground  is so porous, these
[2:37:08] lots are  going to flood right
besides t he road, we'll be
[2:37:11] spending millions to  have
these roads elevated  and
[2:37:11] contain that water, what
[2:37:13] about
all the lots  that are so low
[2:37:17] that are  going to flood,
they're going the h ave to
[2:37:22] elevate a nd filling lots in
they  have to contain all
[2:37:24] they  have to contain all
own w ater.
[2:37:26] own w ater.
We  may be causing more
[2:37:31] problems  than we're
correcting
[2:37:34] here with -- I think we have
[2:37:37] to look a t this as a whole
[2:37:41] picture and g et that
information as  we evaluate
[2:37:43] these r oads to elevate them.
>> commissioner, and  we did
[2:37:45] at
one point,  we looked at what
[2:37:47] if we p rovide also a
collection system on the  side
[2:37:52] of the  road to collect the
[2:37:53] promise that  some of these
roadways you have t he low
[2:37:55] property  but the areas
between
[2:37:56] the property if y ou have
water
[2:37:59] come framing  the backyard,
you're going to have  the
[2:38:03] elevation where you have  the
pump stations operate o n a
[2:38:07] full  time capacity or you'r
point,  it becomes critical,
[2:38:10] point,  it becomes critical,
that's  an option there, but
[2:38:12] if
in  that particular case, so
[2:38:16] in  that particular case, so
here we're  looking at first
[2:38:21] how c an that accessibility be
maintained and be a ble to
[2:38:24] understand  because the
stormwater  system, it helps
[2:38:25] mitigate the  king tides but
it
[2:38:28] also  helps not contribute to
any of  that additional
[2:38:31] flooding and be able  to be
implemented but I u nderstand
[2:38:34] your point  take .and that's
will be a ble to elaborate
[2:38:38] will be a ble to elaborate
[2:38:39] about t hat comprehensive
approach and this I s part of
[2:38:44] the solution, part of t he
be
[2:38:45] be
looked at as  a comprehensive
approach.
[2:38:51] >> thank you.
>>  the project website, I'll
[2:38:56] jump in h ere, on the project,
[2:38:57] you c an visit www .keys roads
plan.com, in there, if  you
[2:39:01] want to a ccess the maps, you
[2:39:03] can d irectly look at the link
access button ins t he front
[2:39:06] access button ins t he front
what are  the existing roadway
[2:39:09] what are  the existing roadway
elevations in f ront of your
[2:39:12] property also we  can look at
what  are those adaptation
[2:39:17] limits  we looked at, and on
see three maps, h ere in
[2:39:21] see three maps, h ere in
[2:39:23] summary, the  map on top show
elevation, that's s howing
[2:39:25] elevation, that's s howing
some
[2:39:28] range, this is  based on the
lidar information, you'll
[2:39:31] find
that  existing information
[2:39:32] along the crown o f the
roadways, you will  also find
[2:39:37] the n eighborhood area
recommendations at  the lower
[2:39:38] left corner here which  is
kind
[2:39:41] of like the map t hat I showed
[2:39:43] show casing t he neighborhood
areas that  shows the
[2:39:45] adaptation limits and a lso
you
[2:39:48] find  another map that shows
the c riticality evaluation
[2:39:53] viewer, this is s howing you
the criticality s core for
[2:39:57] those segments  all throughout
the limits, t hose are gis
[2:39:59] limits, those are to  be view
[2:40:00] and had t here's also a search
[2:40:02] area  where you can provide
your  property address and it
[2:40:04] will  take you automatically
to
that location.
[2:40:08] >> I  just pulled it up, I
accurate.
[2:40:10] >> also, now that's I f you
existing  information, that
[2:40:13] existing  information, that
planning, but also if you
[2:40:15] want
to look at  the conceptual
[2:40:18] plans,  there's also another
call  ted road adaptation
[2:40:23] call  ted road adaptation
conceptual plans, y ou click
[2:40:28] this one  and you go into a
down,
[2:40:29] down,
it's separated by the k eys,
[2:40:31] you h ave those 83 project
areas that I  was talking
[2:40:36] about, you can  click on one,
area
[2:40:40] area
10 which  is winston
waterways,
[2:40:43] we'll g et technical here,
you'll  see a key sheet for
[2:40:48] each one of t he project
areas,
[2:40:49] in  each key sheet, it will
give you  the project
[2:40:54] information, a quick  map of
where t he pronlt area's
[2:40:57] located, you  have an index o
the roadway plans a nd what's
[2:41:00] included there and you  have a
length aof  the project
[2:41:02] overall, this is  consistent
for all t he project areas, so
[2:41:07] you h ave that cover sheet,
plan layout,  this gives you
[2:41:11] plan layout,  this gives you
[2:41:13] the way we  laid out the sheet
[2:41:15] so you  can read it as we
[2:41:16] along, we w anted to provide a
[2:41:17] scale t hat was readable, not
that high l evel because we
[2:41:20] could h ave had less sheets
[2:41:22] but
it would have been  hard to
[2:41:26] read, each  one of these ones
[2:41:29] have  a north arrow that help
[2:41:30] you orient  yourself, it gives
you t hat perspective of how
[2:41:32] those plan  sheets were laid
out.
[2:41:36] you'll see  in each ones, thi
is  a typical sections sheet,
[2:41:39] we  tried to definitely
capture
[2:41:41] as much as we c an those
typical conditions  of the
[2:41:45] roadways  and a typical
section
[2:41:46] may r epresent several
roadways, this represents a ll
[2:41:50] those roadway s eg inlets
located below, sometimes  it's
[2:41:53] ao typical  barrier, we added
several typical sections
[2:41:55] where
we  showed what was anticipate
[2:41:58] today g o in that particular
area, t hat corresponds on
[2:42:03] michelle  drive, that's a
corresponding t ypical that
[2:42:06] apply t here, there's a table
anticipated t o being elevated
[2:42:10] anticipated t o being elevated
look at the table t hat is
[2:42:13] look at the table t hat is
[2:42:16] provided there and then y ou
can look  at that elevation
[2:42:19] change  that is anticipated
within  that particular limit
[2:42:22] and please  understand it's a
range because a t this point,
[2:42:25] the roadway varies, s o we
provided the lower  ask high
[2:42:28] value there and t hen on the
is
[2:42:29] is
that  existing ground
elevation
[2:42:32] at the right of w ay line, so
[2:42:35] that gives you  that
perspective and a s the
[2:42:39] commissioner mentioned, w e
wanted to a lso understand how
[2:42:44] the private p roperties, are
they  low or high ground and
[2:42:47] what are  those numbers going
that is available there.
[2:42:52] that is available there.
And then you'll s ee a plan
[2:42:57] sheet that  shows and if it's a
2022-06-15t11:37:28.4104479-04:00
[2:42:57] small air ya, there will be a
it's
[2:42:59] it's
overwhelmed with more plan
[2:43:03] overwhelmed with more plan
you have  your lenld  --
[2:43:08] you have  your lenld  --
legend
[2:43:12] and a ir owe, you'll see the
the
[2:43:14] the
cross h atch, that means
[2:43:16] there's r econstruction and
change in t he elevation tof
[2:43:20] roadway,  that's all depict
ined the  legend, if there's
[2:43:22] any questions, we're here t o
help, with  that being said,
[2:43:26] there I s a button for
contacting us,  so you can
[2:43:29] click there and p ut your name
and I nformation, a message
[2:43:31] and
that's received here  and then
[2:43:33] we document it  as part of the
project.
[2:43:37] with that, I'll hand  it over
to  erin.
[2:43:41] >> emilio f orgot to mention
[2:43:43] we're also  working on an faq
[2:43:44] sheet right n ow for people to
approach the  website and
[2:43:49] approach the  website and
things like t hat, so they
[2:43:51] understand  what they're
actually looking  at.
[2:43:55] so, good  morning, I'm here to
and implementation  piece of
[2:44:00] and implementation  piece of
to
[2:44:01] to
allude to, there's  more to
[2:44:05] this nan  just the road
elevation stormwater
[2:44:08] management piece of the
program, so t he intent of
[2:44:11] this
particular -- o f your overall
[2:44:13] adaptation strategy I s to
summarize y our priorities for
[2:44:17] the road elevation and  the
stormwater projects based o n
[2:44:20] that  ranking criteria and
that
[2:44:22] process, part 2 of  this is
implementation strategy
[2:44:26] implementation strategy
associated with it and  the
[2:44:29] mayor already a lluded to
that,
[2:44:31] there may need to be change
tos t he comprehensive plan
[2:44:36] torx  the code, I'm going to
not t oo deep into that
[2:44:38] not t oo deep into that
because
[2:44:39] we're going come back t o you
fall
[2:44:41] fall
televising's a  funding
discussion that obviously
[2:44:45] needs to  occur and funding
sources and t hat discussion
[2:44:50] is
probably  going to be at
[2:44:50] multiple times  throughout
this
[2:44:53] process over the  next couple
of  months, so just to quickly
[2:44:58] discuss some  of the needed
policy changes, one t hing
[2:45:00] that
establishing  a roads policy
[2:45:02] establishing  a roads policy
and a l evel of service, this
[2:45:07] is a  trend right now though
south f lorida management
[2:45:09] district  for instance is
working t hrough a flood
[2:45:15] protection level  of service,
we're t alk about a flood
[2:45:19] level
of  service for ours, flasr,
[2:45:21] that's the  one.
>> what did y ou call it.
[2:45:24] >> flooding l evel of service
want to m ake that distinction
[2:45:29] want to m ake that distinction
is  because certain mandated
[2:45:32] levels of service that  you
have in y our comprehensive
[2:45:35] plan already, t his is not
something that's made b ut
[2:45:37] it's
new,  what we're trying to did
[2:45:38] is be t ransparent with the
community a nd manage
[2:45:42] expectations with t he
community a bout what they're
[2:45:44] going t he get, and
essentially
[2:45:49] what this would l ook like is
[2:45:52] we  are going to attempt to
[2:45:53] stien these r oads to keep up
[2:45:55] with future s ea level rise
conditions and  king tides but
[2:45:58] there m ay be limitations for
that, for instance, t he right
[2:46:00] of way  may not be large
enough
[2:46:01] that  we can elevate as high
as
[2:46:04] we potentially want t o so
[2:46:05] we're going to  do the best w
[2:46:07] can,  that taoes basis of wha
[2:46:07] that policy is  going to say,
of
[2:46:11] of
improvement but t hey may not
[2:46:14] get 20  years sea level rise
[2:46:16] plus king tides a ll at the
[2:46:17] same  time because there may
some constraints and then
[2:46:19] some constraints and then
when
[2:46:22] I say level o f service
commitment  cleanup is every
[2:46:26] comprehensive plan  with local
governments I'm working w ith
[2:46:29] right now c ommits to things
feasible with future  sea
[2:46:32] feasible with future  sea
level
[2:46:34] rise, access  issues, certain
open space, l evels of
[2:46:37] service,
bah all o f this comes
together
[2:46:40] to realistically think  about
the commitments you're  making
[2:46:44] in  your comprehensive plan
through your policies a nd
[2:46:48] whether they're achievable  in
[2:46:49] the future, a  policy on road
[2:46:53] drainage, mayor, you  have
already alluded t o this also
[2:46:57] which is  this program is not
about c reating a uniform
[2:46:59] managed stormwater system
throughout the  entire county
[2:47:02] that's  going to drain private
property this is  not an
[2:47:06] urbanized area to d o that,
places like k ey west and
[2:47:08] places like k ey west and
marathon and  other places
[2:47:11] where you h ave stormwater
structures and you have a
[2:47:13] more
urbanized environment but
[2:47:13] that's not  what this program
is.
[2:47:17] this program  is to capture
drainage dealing  with road
[2:47:21] drainage dealing  with road
elevation themselves, and a
[2:47:25] lot o f those roads don't have
existing  stormwater features
[2:47:28] associated with t hem now bah
many  of these roads without
[2:47:33] many  of these roads without
those f eatures because the
[2:47:33] south f lorida water
management
[2:47:35] district is never g oing to
different than  creating that
[2:47:39] different than  creating that
managed system that's g oing
[2:47:41] the drain private p roperty
and
[2:47:41] you're right, mayor, there
are
[2:47:43] going to be people that are
[2:47:45] going to have a  dry road and
[2:47:45] they're going to  have access
be
[2:47:48] be
a portion o f the year that
[2:47:52] their p roperty is under some
level of  inundation and that
[2:47:57] may --  that's going to
increase  over time and at
[2:47:59] some
point,  that level of
[2:48:01] inundation may  be permanent
some properties, place ins
[2:48:04] some properties, place ins
keys are going  to see that
[2:48:09] keys are going  to see that
[2:48:10] effect, some place  ares going
to  see it sooner rather th
[2:48:14] later.
Modify the codes so w e'll
have
[2:48:16] to  modify your design
standards with regard t o road
[2:48:21] design, fdot  has this thing
call ted  green book, that's
[2:48:24] how local g overnments design
their roads a nd that's what's
[2:48:25] referenced in your code r ight
now websinger ear going to
[2:48:28] have to c hange that because
developing  to those green
[2:48:29] developing  to those green
book
[2:48:30] standards, you are going to
be
exceeding t hem.
[2:48:35] review  and modify your road
abandonment procedure that is
[2:48:39] would allow y ou to consider
the future  of flood risk
[2:48:41] associated  with that
particular road facility and
[2:48:43] I
say that  because as emilio
[2:48:46] talked  about in our
evaluation
[2:48:47] process,  some roads serve
more
[2:48:50] people, s ome roads serve less
people, a nd the county may
[2:48:54] not
maintenance obligation on t he
[2:48:56] maintenance obligation on t he
books forever if  the road
[2:49:01] doesn't serve a l ot of
properties, a nd abandonment
[2:49:05] may be  a tool, I'm not saying
but
[2:49:07] but
it may a  z be a tool so y
[2:49:12] don't want to m ake that
process on  yourself than
[2:49:16] absolutely  necessary, funding
strategy is going to  be a
[2:49:18] longer term discussion, is
is this going t o be working
[2:49:21] is this going t o be working
[2:49:23] down a  prioritized proj list
as you  have funds available,
[2:49:28] that's  a longer term
discussion, and t hen private
[2:49:29] property adaptation policies,
which is exactly  what the
[2:49:32] mayor already alluded t o.
I c an tell you this is a
[2:49:36] growing t rend with local
governments right n ow, in
[2:49:39] february, there w as a miami
harold article  that the miami
[2:49:43] dade county I s considering an
ordinance that when r a
[2:49:45] property owner  does a
substantial r enovation or
[2:49:48] modification to their
property
[2:49:51] they  may need to bring th
property  up to 6 feet in
[2:49:55] I am working  for a local
government in p alm beach
[2:49:57] county where we a re looking
at
[2:50:00] the s ame type of standard
[2:50:02] where w e're going to 3.5 feet
relationship between
[2:50:05] relationship between
elevation
[2:50:07] of the sea walls  and what
[2:50:16] that
property needs to b e elevated
[2:50:20] to and a  portion of the
community,  so this
[2:50:23] harmonization, either
triggering, righter,
[2:50:25] something
like that I s probably
[2:50:28] something that needs  to be
[2:50:32] explored in t he longer term.
So, this  has been a very
[2:50:37] proactive planning  approach
and s o we have the issue
[2:50:39] countywide adaptation, roads
[2:50:42] has been at the top o f the
[2:50:48] list  because obviously it's
access  to homes, businesses,
[2:50:52] schools,  all ofz that, we ar
looking at  this summer launch
[2:50:56] ago grant p rogram on
adaptation of on  the habitat
[2:50:59] natural r esources level,
mitigating county buildings
[2:51:00] that are potentially  have you
neshl, other infrastructure,
[2:51:04] you have the  countywide
component of  adaptation, and
[2:51:07] then again as t he mayor
alluded to, what is t he
[2:51:10] private response, what  are we
going to encourage  people to
[2:51:13] do, what  are we going to
to
[2:51:14] to
allow people to do with
regard
[2:51:17] to elevation  of their
structures, l ot fill
[2:51:20] driveways
is  another thing, mr. Tl
[2:51:22] be property owners where  you
have access t o your property
[2:51:29] you h ave an elevated
driveway,
[2:51:33] your  home is elevated, maybe
you're okay w ith your lot
[2:51:36] being inundated part of the
[2:51:39] year x na needs t o be
[2:51:42] explored, and t his's true tli
going t o achieve resiliency
[2:51:47] going t o achieve resiliency
overall with all  of these
[2:51:48] factors, this r oads project
is
[2:51:51] the biggest thing y ou have
[2:51:53] tackled so far  but it is
story.
[2:51:57] story.
And I t hink this is rhonda's
slide.
[2:51:59] okay.
>> yes, t hank you, erin.
[2:52:02] >> I'm  going to pull this up
for you,  rhonda.
[2:52:07] >> okay.
>>  yes.
>> thank  you.
[2:52:10] >> so, thank  you, emilio and
I
[2:52:13] I
think we  met the goal of t
[2:52:15] whole project w hen we
started,
[2:52:17] really the goal is to h elp
yent
[2:52:20] yent
by  developing this long term
[2:52:23] road adaptation plan, t o
mitigate  these sea level rise
[2:52:27] impacts s o if we're able to
[2:52:28] implement the p lan and that's
going t he take funding, we
[2:52:32] will have l ong term
resilience
[2:52:35] here at l east for the next
more,
[2:52:39] more,
and these were  to help us
[2:52:42] plan
the cost estimates  for the
[2:52:45] county road d epartmental plan
and s upport technical
[2:52:48] information which we'll be
able to u se on our grant
[2:52:52] applications, and then yet  to
come, y ou heard erin talk
[2:52:55] about, we're going to t alk
about our p rivate property
[2:52:56] adaptation  policies, we
really
[2:52:58] need to research  on how we're
still 1.6 b illion tlars,
[2:53:03] still 1.6 b illion tlars,
that's  a lot of money, gran
[2:53:06] are not going to  be able to
[2:53:09] fund all  of this, we're going
[2:53:10] the h ave to figure out some
[2:53:13] sources o f funding to help
build this  program and then
[2:53:15] finally y ou'll see erin and
me
[2:53:18] again in september  or so,
maybe o ctober, depends on the
[2:53:22] storm season  with our final
report  and our presentation,
[2:53:25] this is t he technical
presentation today, y ou won't
[2:53:27] see a nother technical
I
[2:53:29] I
thank y ou.
>>  thank you, rhonda.
[2:53:36] you know, I 'm sitting here
looking a t that 1.6 billion
[2:53:41] dollars a nd realizing that if
majority of t hat will
[2:53:45] majority of t hat will
probably
[2:53:48] be  grant funds and I'm
remembering back  to the
[2:53:51] almost
1 billion dollars t hat we
[2:53:57] spent o n wastewater which we
[2:54:01] just  knew we could never do
years,  we did it.
[2:54:06] years,  we did it.
We'll p robably get there or
[2:54:09] we
will be turning o ut of a dry
[2:54:13] road into t he lake that
[2:54:15] constitutes o ur house, so
front o f our eyes, not
[2:54:20] front o f our eyes, not
rapidly, but  it is changing,
[2:54:25] and probably will ko  n to do
so.
[2:54:30] so, together we'll  have to
thank you very  much.
[2:54:36] thank you very  much.
>> thank  you.
[2:54:39] >>  your next item is on the
have
[2:54:42] have
two public speakers signed  up
[2:54:44] for that, d iscussion and
capital project applications
[2:54:47] capital project applications
to be submitted u nder the
[2:54:51] resilient florida p rogram for
2022.
[2:54:53] >>  while he's bringing that
[2:54:54] up, I'll  go ahead and kick
the
[2:54:56] the
help us w ha, you're going to
[2:55:02] hear today  is the resilient
[2:55:05] florida program, some c hanges
that's been made in t he last
[2:55:10] year, you s aw us in front of
implemented the grant
[2:55:13] implemented the grant
program,
[2:55:16] we were t rying to get road
guidelines and there's  some
[2:55:20] guidelines and there's  some
new things  we want to try
[2:55:21] that
we're going to paren  to you
[2:55:22] today and w ith that, I'm
going
[2:55:26] to go a head and ask erin to
go
[2:55:30] ahead and s tart.
>> hello  again.
[2:55:33] this presentation is  the
culmination o f a
[2:55:37] collaboration
across   multiple stab asks
[2:55:39] conversations that have
occurred with the s tate so
[2:55:43] I'm
here to k ind of deliver the
[2:55:45] strategy to y ou.
So, just  as a refresher,
[2:55:49] there
are five  major sections of
the
[2:55:51] resilient florida legislation
t two s ections that we are
[2:55:55] most  focused on are the
number
[2:55:59] 1, the  resilt yent florida
grant p rogram which funds
[2:56:04] planning grants and a t some
[2:56:05] level, it h as also been used
[2:56:07] to  fund capital projects, and
then number 3 I s the
[2:56:12] statewide
flooding and  sea level rise
[2:56:16] resilience  plan, that
level rise  resilience plan --
[2:56:21] level rise  resilience plan --
screens s o whatever we're
[2:56:26] screens s o whatever we're
seeing behind us  is not on
[2:56:31] our
screens.
Rhonda, y ou look lovely, and
[2:56:34] rhonda, you're muted.
Er
[2:56:37] >>  t hank you, I said we'll
[2:56:40] wait  a second while they loa
you for t he compliment.
[2:56:44] you for t he compliment.
>>  number 3 there, the
[2:56:46] statewide flooding  and sea
level rise  resilience plan,
[2:56:50] this  plan is compiled every
year by t he grant
[2:56:52] applications
that are submitted to the
[2:56:54] state by  september 1 and that
[2:56:56] plan is handed off  to the
and legislative l eadership by
[2:57:01] and legislative l eadership by
december  1 of each year and
[2:57:06] this  plan will compile all
the capital p roject grant
[2:57:09] requests across the s tate.
And so  this was the funding
[2:57:11] mechanism for the t wo
projects
[2:57:15] that you  received last year
right p oint design, so your
[2:57:20] right p oint design, so your
history w ith this program
[2:57:23] predated  the legislation
coming  into effect in 2021,
[2:57:28] you r eceived two grants, they
were  planning related grants,
[2:57:31] one w as to develop amendments
to  the comprehensive plan
[2:57:36] that
were  required for peril flood
[2:57:40] legislation, the  other was to
update  your vulnerability
[2:57:43] adaptation, t hat work was
being done  last year thaz
[2:57:46] tha z law w as being signed
into  effect.
[2:57:48] the previous  version of the
program a ppended these
[2:57:50] planning  grants at 75
thousand
[2:57:53] dollars so it was tough t o do
[2:57:56] the e xpanded work that you
vulnerability assessment for
[2:57:59] vulnerability assessment for
money,  when the legislation
[2:58:03] money,  when the legislation
was signed  into effect, that
[2:58:07] cap was l ifted but also came
with  that legislation were
[2:58:09] requirements  for
vulnerability
basements now because the
[2:58:12] state was r eceiving apples
and
[2:58:13] oranges in terms  of the
vulnerability assessment,
[2:58:16] they
wanted  to standardize them on
[2:58:20] some level  with new technical
specifications and I can tell
[2:58:25] you that  that costs a whole
[2:58:27] lot m ore than 75 thousand
terms of  a document, the 2021
[2:58:30] terms of  a document, the 2021
grant cycle, you  received
[2:58:32] money to  update your
vulnerability assessment to
[2:58:35] bring it  into compliance with
those n ew requirements, that
[2:58:39] project was announced I
believe may 11, there w as
[2:58:41] also
a project on that list for
[2:58:41] the
plan  that I referenced
[2:58:44] plan  that I referenced
earlier
[2:58:47] but t hat project was kind of
awarded previous to t hat
[2:58:50] under
the old version of the
program
[2:58:51] but it was on the list  for
[2:58:54] this  year, and then you got
the still r ight point design
[2:58:57] t
twin lakes  elevation for that
[2:59:01] particular road project a nd
then  the harry harris
[2:59:05] resilient d esign for that
particular park, so this  is
[2:59:09] the s uccess you've had in the
program s o far
[2:59:16] collaboratively
across the  county.
[2:59:18] and so  there were several
house b ill 1773, fdot is t
[2:59:23] house b ill 1773, fdot is t
first state a gency that is
[2:59:26] now
required to pull  together a
[2:59:26] resilience action plan and
the
[2:59:29] reason that would be
important
[2:59:32] to you  is for instance maybe
resiliency projects associate
[2:59:35] resiliency projects associate
witched that  resilience
action
[2:59:37] plan, there a re new
responsibilities for  the
[2:59:41] state's chief resilience
officer and one o f those
[2:59:44] duties  is in conjunction wit
the d epartment of
[2:59:45] environmental protection,
they
[2:59:47] have to produce a  list of
vulnerability basements e very
[2:59:51] year  that meet those
statutory
[2:59:54] requirements and I can tell
list as s oon as possible
[2:59:59] list as s oon as possible
because how t hey evaluate
[3:00:00] your
capital project , grant
[3:00:02] submittals, a portion of  that
is related  to your vulnerable
[3:00:07] assessment, so the  good news
last
[3:00:08] last
year  to do that compliance
effort.
[3:00:13] there is  a new definition of
assets,
[3:00:16] assets,
this  is important because in
[3:00:19] the g rant evaluation process,
assess that s erve more than
[3:00:23] one local g overnment
jurisdiction are going  to get
[3:00:27] a bump in t he evaluation
process,  there is also a
[3:00:32] component for p reconstruction
funding f or small local
[3:00:34] governments  and for you,
that's you are actually not
[3:00:37] eligible jibl for that  type
of
[3:00:38] funding because mower t a
county  of less than 50
[3:00:43] thousand, they  also want to
see r ainfall pod dwelling now
[3:00:46] associated  with the
vulnerability assessment,
[3:00:48] there have been changes t o
the
[3:00:51] dates a s to when certain
statewide deliverables  have
[3:00:55] to
be completed, there a re more
[3:00:55] transparency requirements
when
the s tate produces that
[3:00:59] statewide flooding  and sea
level r ise resilience plan,
[3:01:03] they have to  have a narrative
talking a bout the projects
[3:01:05] that they s elected and why
and
[3:01:08] the projects  they did not
select and  why and the
[3:01:11] methods
by which  they selected those
[3:01:15] projects and included t hoem
after 2023, t he state wants
[3:01:19] after 2023, t he state wants
to
[3:01:22] see a  local government have
vulnerability assessment  in
[3:01:26] compliance  with these
standards f or modeling,
[3:01:30] essentially t hey are saying
to have a  tough time getting
[3:01:35] to have a  tough time getting
your  capital projects highly
[3:01:39] ranked  without having that
vulnerability assessment,
[3:01:42] there a re more eligible
entities  this year, erosion
[3:01:47] control districts,  water
control d istricts, drainage
[3:01:51] districts,  so there are more
parties t hat can  access th
[3:01:55] money and there I s less money
[3:01:56] in  year for the program
overall,  dep is engaged in
[3:02:00] rule making right n ow to
develop t he criteria by which
[3:02:04] they are  going to rank the
[3:02:06] grants, and I 'm happy to tell
you the county  has been
[3:02:10] engaged I n this process, and
so  far we've yielded some
[3:02:12] success in  the rule making
effort by p roffering language
[3:02:15] that  has been adopted into
another version o f the rule,
[3:02:20] that  rule is not done yet,
competitiveness of  these
[3:02:22] competitiveness of  these
grant
[3:02:23] applications based  on this
rule that I s in flight
[3:02:26] because
it is going the tell you  how
[3:02:30] the m ake your projects more
competitive b ut we have
[3:02:35] secured some changes  to that
[3:02:35] rule and  that's a really good
the
[3:02:37] the
picture of the  state of
[3:02:41] affairs last  year and I'm
going t o walk through what's
[3:02:44] changed.
There haven't been a lot  of
[3:02:46] changes to  the planning
grants
[3:02:51] but this year,  there is
approximately 180 m illion
[3:02:56] dollars of  funding for that
that's  a little bit
[3:02:58] that's  a little bit
different,
[3:02:58] there was m ore money
available
[3:03:01] for capital projects this
year, we  have some more
[3:03:06] limitations.
The match r equirements for
[3:03:07] this are  still a little
foggy,
[3:03:10] it  depends on how your
capital
[3:03:13] project is  funded as to
to be r equired.
[3:03:17] to be r equired.
The s tatute requires match
for
[3:03:20] inclusion of a  project in
this
[3:03:22] statewide flooding  and sea
level rise  plan, if your
[3:03:26] project gets  funded with a
different p ot of dollars,
[3:03:30] those match r equirements may
not be part o f the evaluation
[3:03:33] process and t here may be
others that w ant to provide
[3:03:36] more  elaboration on that, but
we
[3:03:36] we
have right now, at least that
[3:03:40] I h ave as presenting this to
you.
[3:03:44] so, t his is how those pots
[3:03:47] shake out, last y ear, they
planning grants and t hey had
[3:03:50] planning grants and t hey had
resilience  projects, the
[3:03:55] resilience  projects were fund
funded  mostly with arpa
[3:03:58] money,
there was 1 54 million dollar
[3:04:01] list of f unding that came
outside o f that statewide sea
[3:04:04] level rise  plan pot of
dollars
[3:04:06] and what that m eant was that
[3:04:09] there were  some projects that
[3:04:11] were funded on  that list that
[3:04:12] there w as no match, so this
is
[3:04:14] is
180 million dollars for t hat
[3:04:18] plan, a s I mentioned, there
are m ore eligible entities,
[3:04:23] there w as a statutory change
this  year that essentially
[3:04:27] said that p ot of dollars for
less than 1 00 million
[3:04:29] less than 1 00 million
dollars,
[3:04:30] last year, it w as a cannot be
dollars,
[3:04:34] dollars,
so this y ear we're seeing 180
[3:04:36] million dollars in  that pot,
we're still a  little unclear
[3:04:40] as to some  of the match
requirements depending  on the
[3:04:44] funding s tream and then
obviously t he application
[3:04:47] dates h ave been adjusted to
just  showing you what's
[3:04:50] just  showing you what's
changed from last year  to
[3:04:53] this
year.
So, this is w hat we know
[3:04:54] about
some of the f unding that's
[3:04:57] been announced in t he budget
people  have information,
[3:05:02] people  have information,
please help m e out and chime
[3:05:05] in, but 2 70 million dollars
was announced f or the
[3:05:07] statewide flooding  and sea
level rise  plan but that was
[3:05:09] for projects  that were
already
[3:05:10] awarded last year so, w hen
the
[3:05:17] state says  we've got 500
million d ollars for
[3:05:22] resilience
this  year, 270 dollars of
that
[3:05:26] is  already allocated, there's
20 million  dollars from
[3:05:28] resilience, 20 million
dollars
[3:05:30] from revenue, that's  40
million dollars, 20 m illion
[3:05:33] of
that we know is fwoing to g o
[3:05:36] to  planning projects, 20
of dollars  that are used fo
[3:05:40] of dollars  that are used fo
match, we're  a little
[3:05:44] match, we're  a little
uncertain on  that, I talked
[3:05:48] about t he 180 million dollars
for t he statewide resilience
[3:05:53] plan, then there  are other
pots of d ollars available for
[3:05:58] regional  resilience projects
like from t he compact, and
[3:05:59] 5.5
florida flood hub w hich is
[3:06:02] florida flood hub w hich is
data gathering entity
[3:06:07] throughout the  state.
So, m atch technically within
[3:06:09] the s tatute is required but
it's only r equired for that
[3:06:14] one p ot of dollars from a
legal p erspective which is
[3:06:17] that  statewide flooding and
sea l evel rise resilience
[3:06:19] plan
so, there m ay be a pot of
[3:06:21] dollars out t here that
doesn't
[3:06:21] require a m atch, we're still
a
[3:06:26] little uncertain on t hat and
then obviously you have t o
[3:06:31] submit your p rojects through
gets  compiled from those
[3:06:34] gets  compiled from those
projects, there's o nly one
[3:06:39] portal to submit  your capital
projects and you don't know
[3:06:41] what funding stream is
ultimately going to fund that
[3:06:42] project, whether it's going
to
[3:06:44] be included nr that statewide
plan  or for instance, it was
[3:06:48] -- last year, t here was arpa
trigger those requirements,
[3:06:49] trigger those requirements,
so
[3:06:53] you don't g et to dictate what
funding pot f unds your
[3:06:59] project, you are  at the will
of  dep.
[3:07:03] >> erin,  real quick, are we
considered  a financially
[3:07:05] disadvantaged small
community,
we're not constrained, are
[3:07:08] we?
No, o kay.
>>  alright so, we're moving
[3:07:13] into  the grant concepts, we
have two  planning grant
[3:07:17] concepts we're looking to
present to you  and the
[3:07:22] planning  grant application is
exactly 7 d ays from today, s
[3:07:25] one o f those planning grants
is  the municipal roads
[3:07:28] planning project  which is
basically t o take everything
[3:07:31] emilio just p resented on and
through that  same process and
[3:07:35] through that  same process and
[3:07:38] the a dvantage of that is that
the similar d esign standards
[3:07:42] the similar d esign standards
overall,  and we did submit
[3:07:48] this  grant last year but it
[3:07:51] really didn't fit n eatly into
looking f or, for planning
[3:07:54] looking f or, for planning
grants, what  they're really
[3:07:56] prioritizing  is vulnerability
assessments for communities
[3:07:58] that  have not done them ye
or
[3:08:00] vulnerability assessments for
communities that want to  come
[3:08:04] into compliance w ith this new
statutory criteria, s o we are
[3:08:08] going to  dust off that grant
little  bit more competitively
[3:08:12] little  bit more competitively
to fit  more with what dep I
[3:08:14] looking f or.
The second planning project
[3:08:17] that we w ould like to pursue
neighborhood, this would  look
[3:08:22] neighborhood, this would  look
a lot l ike the roads pilot
[3:08:27] project that  we did in
2015-16, before you l ook at
[3:08:30] wholesale a daptation across
the c ounty overall, let's
[3:08:31] pick
a neighborhood and look a t
[3:08:34] that and  get at some of t
[3:08:37] issues  we just talked about
that  mayor rice raised, what
[3:08:39] is  adaptation look like
beyond
[3:08:40] just roadsters and we w ould
like to potentially submit a
[3:08:45] grant to  do that in one test
that
[3:08:46] that
so, those a re the two
[3:08:49] so, those a re the two
planning
[3:08:53] grants   due potentially by
a
[3:08:56] a
little  bit more about assets
[3:08:59] and w hat assets are within
this program  in the statute,
[3:09:03] there a re four different
types
[3:09:05] of critical a ssets that are
defined w ithin the statute,
[3:09:09] transportation  and critical
infrastructure, critical
[3:09:11] community a nd emergency
services  and natural cultural
[3:09:14] and historic resources  and
reason  that is important is
[3:09:19] reason  that is important is
because the g rant criteria,
[3:09:24] the p roject criteria
overwhelmingly prefers
[3:09:26] projects  that look at
critical
[3:09:28] assets, a dapt critical
assets,
or  protect critical assets.
[3:09:33] I'm going the talk a  little
bit more  about that.
[3:09:38] now, the  definition does not
say t hat critical assets have
[3:09:43] to  be publicly owned, but
statute w here in your
[3:09:45] statute w here in your
vulnerable assessment, you
[3:09:48] have to I dentify all of the
critical assets that  are
[3:09:51] owned
and maintained  by the local
[3:09:55] government, s o it's pretty
overwhelmingly  preferring
[3:09:59] overwhelmingly  preferring
assets  as part of the grant
[3:10:04] assets  as part of the grant
I j ust said that.
[3:10:08] I j ust said that.
Okay.
[3:10:11] so, t alking about the scope
of
[3:10:13] the c apital projects, again,
I
[3:10:17] talked  about critical assets,
owned and maintained, but I n
[3:10:20] the c ritical assets
definition, you a lso have
[3:10:23] hospitals w hich is not
something t hat is necessarily
[3:10:27] publicly  owned but points are
assessed  within the ranking
[3:10:32] program as  to how well a
project a ddresses risk,
[3:10:36] projects  that reduce risk in
areas w ith an overall higher
[3:10:39] percentage  of critical assets
protected, so I f your project
[3:10:43] gets a  lot of bang for bu
publicly
[3:10:44] publicly
owned things at o ne time,
that
[3:10:47] project is  obviously going to
rank  higher.
[3:10:51] there is -- t here are
criteria
[3:10:55] related to how  well the
project a lleviates up land
[3:10:58] damage, whether n ature base
features, whether or not  the
[3:11:03] project I s cost effective an
if  the local government is
[3:11:05] financially constrained so
there is a lot  of different
[3:11:10] criteria  to evaluate these
projects, so  what we are
[3:11:11] doing
collectively through  the
[3:11:14] departments is talking about
how to  make those projects as
[3:11:17] competitive as possible, for
instance, is there a  project
[3:11:20] where w e can add nature ba
[3:11:22] features and  get more points,
projects is y ou're really
[3:11:25] projects is y ou're really
constrained in  the
[3:11:27] right-of-way and in t erms of
[3:11:29] how you have  to manage the
[3:11:31] money so there's not  a lot of
[3:11:33] nature based features y ou can
those points  are probably not
[3:11:37] those points  are probably not
available to  certain types of
[3:11:42] projects that you m ay v so up
[3:11:44] to 36 p oints out of 100 in
[3:11:46] this  program are related to
how w ell your vulnerability
[3:11:49] assessment  identifies your
critical  assets, identifies
[3:11:53] how at  risk they are and ho
your  potential project
[3:11:58] addresses t hat risk, that's a
the p rogram are related to
[3:12:01] the p rogram are related to
[3:12:02] whether or not  you have match
has previously funded a
[3:12:06] has previously funded a
component o f the program, for
[3:12:09] instance, if there  was a
project w here you received
[3:12:13] money f or design and now you
construction, you will get
[3:12:15] construction, you will get
some additional points for
[3:12:17] that because the  state has
already m ade an investment
[3:12:20] there and f unded the project
previously, so  that's
[3:12:24] something t o consider that
almost 50%  of the criteria
[3:12:27] are
related to  these two key
[3:12:30] elements  about characterizing
so, these a re the capital
[3:12:36] so, these a re the capital
grant concepts that w e are
[3:12:41] talking about,  number one  is
[3:12:43] roads projects, t here are 15
[3:12:45] of them w e have listed and
[3:12:48] we'll talk  a little bit more
[3:12:49] about t hat, they total 302
million dollars a nd just for
[3:12:53] discussion purposes, a  cost
share of  50% cost share of
[3:12:57] those p rojects would be --
should be a bout 150 million
[3:13:00] should be a bout 150 million
dollars I nstead of 190, then
[3:13:03] we talk a bout -- we have
three
[3:13:08] shore l ine related projects,
the duck  key break water t
[3:13:13] long key  living shore line
2022-06-15t12:07:46.4459340-04:00
[3:13:12] 2022-06-15t12:07:46.4459340-04:00
nod s hore line project, I
want
[3:13:16] to  talk a minute about the
differences that I  just
[3:13:21] described to  you about
critical assets that  are pub
[3:13:25] luckily o pened and maintained
and p rotect critical assets
[3:13:28] that are  publicly owned and
maintained like t he long key
[3:13:30] living  shore line project,
you
[3:13:31] own t hat property you own
that
[3:13:35] shore line so I f you did a
[3:13:37] shore line  protective project
there, it w ould be protecting
[3:13:40] your trance for station w hich
asset,  so a project like that
[3:13:46] asset,  so a project like that
is  going to rank higher
[3:13:51] because y ou are protecting
publicly  owned and maintained
[3:13:55] critical  assets.
So, I  had a list, I'm sorry
[3:13:57] it
was small, I  wanted to get as
[3:13:59] many I  could on each slide
but
[3:14:03] basically we  have taken the
ranked  list as rhonda
[3:14:08] described in  the first 2025
timeframe a nd we've pulled 15
[3:14:13] projects out  of that list and
[3:14:16] so  we're talking about, okay,
[3:14:16] if we k ind of pull the first
[3:14:19] 15  out of that five year
increment, what would c hose
[3:14:22] projects  be, so we got th
[3:14:23] pronlt  area number there but
ranking s core or anything
[3:14:25] ranking s core or anything
like
[3:14:30] that, that's  just to identify
the project I n the overall
[3:14:35] plan, I  have the l epg, th
[3:14:36] fee,  the cost f a 50% mat
was s omething the county
[3:14:38] wanted to t hrow into the
application, these are  the
[3:14:42] application, these are  the
costs,  so I can provide th
[3:14:47] list  and we can talk about
[3:14:53] them, I knower there may  be
[3:14:56] one or  two pros that may c
[3:14:57] off this  list for logistical
reasons, judy m ay want to
[3:15:00] weigh in op that issue and we
[3:15:03] would move further down the
number, 15  projects is 22.23
[3:15:07] number, 15  projects is 22.23
miles at  302 million dollars
[3:15:10] and t hat should be 150
[3:15:13] million
reason, I s crewed that up, so
[3:15:18] reason, I s crewed that up, so
[3:15:21] this  is approximately 41% of
your  total road project costs
[3:15:24] by  2025, that number that
would n eed for roads
[3:15:28] would n eed for roads
vulnerable by 2 025, these
[3:15:31] grantees  if you submitted
these 15 projects w ould be
[3:15:35] 41%
of  that number and roman m
[3:15:38] wan to speak  to this issue
[3:15:41] about the penny s ales tax and
[3:15:43] what  that can generate in the
context of match, m aybe I
[3:15:45] should  let you do that if you
want to.
[3:15:47] >>  no, go ahead, you can
abit.
.
[3:15:49] inger well, this  I think is
--
[3:15:53] yeah, so I'm  going the ask a
some direction  here.
[3:15:57] some direction  here.
The f irst question there is
[3:15:59] the t wo planning projects
that
[3:16:01] I outlined for  dwrou, the
municipal roads planning
[3:16:04] project and t he neighborhood
adaptation project, we  would
[3:16:07] like your d irection to go
ahead and a pply for those
[3:16:09] because we have a w eek to do
it.
[3:16:12] the s econd one is --
>> can  you go through them
[3:16:15] one
by one  or do you want to lay
[3:16:16] them all out, I d on't know,
or
[3:16:19] do  you need them all out a
we pick from  there.
[3:16:22] >>  the planning projects are
easy  because they don't
[3:16:25] require a  match, it's pretty
or
[3:16:25] or
not.
[3:16:28] >> I  would say yes, they seem
pretty  inexpensive but
[3:16:31] useful.
>> okay.
[3:16:34] I mean, w e can take bha fr
take
[3:16:39] take
projects  t duck key proj, t
[3:16:44] projects  t duck key proj, t
long key  transfer station
[3:16:49] project t w ink, blink k and
nodder prorjts all  three
[3:16:52] shore
yes
[3:16:53] yes
or no on the  match.
[3:16:58] >>  so, mayor, I did a li
[3:17:03] research with rhonda  on this,
that  would be protecting --
[3:17:08] that  would be protecting --
correct m e if I'm wrong,
[3:17:11] rhonda, private property.
>> the  duck key one, so t
[3:17:13] two break w ater projects,
they're g ood resilient
[3:17:16] projects and  a break water
repair would  help protect the
[3:17:20] homes but t hey are private
homes s o we probably wouldn't
[3:17:25] score as well o n those since
they're n ot protecting that
[3:17:28] critical feign structure  that
you heard e rin discuss
[3:17:29] earlier.
>>  I think that's an
important
[3:17:34] component t o consider,
perhaps
[3:17:36] not  submitting it, even
though
[3:17:39] very  important areas but --
>> wla's  the harm in
[3:17:44] submitting  it?
>> well,  are they matching
it,
[3:17:46] are we not going  to match it,
other - -
[3:17:49] other - -
>>  would the neighborhood
come
[3:17:54] up with s ome money, that's an
unanswered question o n that
[3:17:58] particular  proj.
Substantial wastewater
[3:18:01] substantial wastewater
has that  be eliminated with
[3:18:05] has that  be eliminated with
the p roject?
[3:18:09] >>  it's not eliminated from
consideration and some  of
[3:18:13] this
comes down  to how well we
[3:18:15] write up  the grant
applications and  what is
[3:18:17] potentially protected, but
the most  part, you done own
[3:18:21] the most  part, you done own
[3:18:24] the shore l ine, so that shore
[3:18:25] line  is not really adapting a
[3:18:27] critical asset per se b ut it
critical assets w ithin the
[3:18:30] critical assets w ithin the
>>  I'm sure you'll write up a
[3:18:36] >>  I'm sure you'll write up a
beautiful application,  so we
[3:18:41] can take  that for granted.
Think there a re some
[3:18:44] think there a re some
the duck  key and the long key
[3:18:49] the duck  key and the long key
there h ave been any
[3:18:53] there h ave been any
conceptual
[3:18:54] dollars associated with t he
other o ne yet but again, the
[3:18:58] good news is  only those
planning projects have to b e
[3:19:02] submitted in a  week, we have
[3:19:03] until september 1  for these
other o nes that we're now
[3:19:06] discussing  the capital
projects, s o there's time.
[3:19:10] >>  yeah, good point, today w
[3:19:11] wanted to g o over that full
[3:19:13] concept of  do you really want
of  road elevation projects,
[3:19:16] of  road elevation projects,
are you c omfortable with
[3:19:18] that,
so the  list we showed earlier
[3:19:19] isn't necessarily the f inal
list, we can  come back in
[3:19:24] july
with once we have a  little
[3:19:28] more time t o spend on these,
application, you  see two
[3:19:30] application, you  see two
items
[3:19:35] on the  agenda that were bulk
approved, there's s o much
[3:19:40] information required so I
that, we  can come back in
[3:19:42] that, we  can come back in
july
[3:19:43] with a  more detailed plan of
[3:19:45] what we want  to do, we want
[3:19:46] to go t hrough the concepts
today a nd the planning grants
[3:19:49] because those h ave to be
submitted.
.
[3:19:53] er before w e can make that
we're
[3:19:57] we're
going to have t o have some
[3:20:00] substantial staff input o n
able  to match because that
[3:20:06] able  to match because that
[3:20:09] seems to  be one of the majo
[3:20:10] factors I n whether we apply,
for
[3:20:14] for
grants that w e would not be
[3:20:17] able to match , so we need
some
[3:20:19] help  there.
>> one thing  just to tie this
[3:20:23] up and then y ou can move into
[3:20:24] that discussion, so, here a re
up
[3:20:27] up
[3:20:30] there b efore and if you were
[3:20:34] looking at  say 30 million
dollars worth of  match, you
[3:20:39] could I dentify these three
projects, t he tavernier ocean
[3:20:40] shores, t he [inaudible],
those
[3:20:43] total 30 million  dollars in
number,
[3:20:47] number,
then  you can balance any of
[3:20:51] the s hore line prints and any
[3:20:53] of  the road projects and then
for y ou.
[3:20:56] for y ou.
>> well,  but what I'm saying
[3:20:58] is we c an't set a number.
>>  no.
[3:21:02] >> we d on't have the
explanation for that number.
[3:21:04] .
Er that would b e the
[3:21:06] extension, right, 30  million?
>>  yes, and again, remember
[3:21:10] when  she was saying it's
still
[3:21:12] unclear as  far as matching
versus not matching, I could
[3:21:15] tell  you my conversations
with
[3:21:16] leadership in tallahassee,
they want t o know the extent
[3:21:21] of what needs t o be done in
[3:21:24] the state and unless  we give
[3:21:25] them the  numbers and apply,
they're not going t o know
[3:21:28] that, so  that's the
uncertainty of this whole
[3:21:31] thing, I  would love for them
[3:21:33] to  say, yeah, here's 150
million d ollars, go find 15
[3:21:38] million dollars, you  know, I
doubt that's  going to happen
[3:21:39] but somehow w e'll find
another
[3:21:39] 150 million dollars if  we
have
[3:21:42] to, but they need to  know the
we've
[3:21:45] we've
put into  this so our
[3:21:48] recommendation is o bviously
the first t hree, we can do
[3:21:52] that but  let's go ahead and
submit everything a nd move
[3:21:55] forward a nd give tallahassee
a
[3:21:59] good report o n where we're at
[3:22:01] because we are  -- I think we
[3:22:03] are ahead o f the game, nobody
else  has done this much.
[3:22:06] >> what do  you mean by done
this  much?
[3:22:08] >>  as far as going into s
much detail.
[3:22:11] >> no,  not to my knowledge.
>>  so, we're really at the
[3:22:19] top
of the  spear here and we need
[3:22:23] to  present all this to hall
has   -- tallahassee.
[3:22:26] >> as we should be.
>> it's h ard to make
[3:22:30] decisions
direction w ith hypothetical,
[3:22:35] direction w ith hypothetical,
so -- a nd I like that the top
[3:22:40] three, the  tavernier, I like
that  they're regionally
[3:22:42] chosen
if you  will.
[3:22:44] do you  need a decision, I'm
from
[3:22:47] from
us  today ?frjt really the top
[3:22:51] one today,  then we can --
like
[3:22:56] rhonda says, we can come  back
aren't due until  september.
[3:23:01] aren't due until  september.
>> the only t hing I would add
[3:23:02] --
>>  right.
[3:23:08] >>  right.
Correct.
>>  [inaudible].
[3:23:13] [inaudible].
>> who's  talking?
>> [inaudible].
[3:23:17] >> and  remember what happened
last year,  yeah, one more
[3:23:22] point, what h appened last
year, w e didn't apply because
[3:23:25] of  the match constraint and
other folks g ot money that
[3:23:29] didn't  --
there w as 16z prompting.
[3:23:31] there w as 16z prompting.
Knowledge at  the present time
[3:23:36] knowledge at  the present time
the prudent action  is to
[3:23:40] the prudent action  is to
apply
[3:23:44] because  as those gaps fill
in,
[3:23:46] it may be I n our benefit to
be
[3:23:48] in the  game.
>>  exactly.
[3:23:52] >>  I didn't figure it was a
[3:23:55] accident  that those top three
represent one project I n the
[3:23:58] lower keys, m iddle keys and
upper k eys, nice choosing,
[3:24:01] roman.
>>  it wasn't me, I can't
[3:24:03] credit for that.
>> do y ou need direction on
[3:24:07] matching  or not matching the
>> we n eed direction on that.
[3:24:12] >> we n eed direction on that.
To  this, again, the projects
[3:24:17] to  this, again, the projects
rank higher I f they are
[3:24:20] identified  in your
vulnerability assessment,
some
[3:24:21] are, some a re not, the roads
the
[3:24:26] the
roads p lan also doesn't meet
[3:24:29] all the s tate criteria for a
vulnerability basement, a ses
[3:24:34] -- assessment so  what we are
[3:24:35] going to  do is an atenbacker
pen dix t o your vulnerability
[3:24:38] assessment to support a ll
these projects  with some
[3:24:40] modeling and  some mapping.
We need time  to do that, so
[3:24:43] if
we  could get some direction
[3:24:43] from you  today to go forth
and
[3:24:45] do that, we c an at least
start
[3:24:49] that  process.
>> well, I  believe we have
[3:24:51] some public s peakers, am I
[3:24:53] correct?
Jethon, do you  have anybody
[3:24:58] jethon, do you  have anybody
with  their hand raised?
[3:25:02] >>   [inaudible] with their
hand raised.
[3:25:07] >> uz t hat a no or a yes?
[3:25:10] >> there  are no hands raised.
[3:25:12] >>  your first speaker will
by
[3:25:38] by
marrow  garcia.
--  mario garcia.
[3:25:44] >> while  they're getting set
workshop on t his?
[3:25:49] workshop on t his?
I feel  like this is an
[3:25:54] enormous  amount of
that you're a sking us to
[3:26:03] that you're a sking us to
[3:26:06] digest  in an hour and I th
[3:26:08] for u s to get feedback fro
[3:26:09] constituents and  just for us,
lot of  this right now.
[3:26:13] lot of  this right now.
[3:26:14] and I s ay that I know you've
little
[3:26:18] little
spoonfuls for y ears now but
[3:26:21] we're now at  the point we
have
[3:26:23] new commissioners, we h ave
new
[3:26:25] information on this a nd the
funding a nd I think this
[3:26:29] takes
more than just  an hour of our
[3:26:31] time right  now.
To do that?
[3:26:35] to do that?
>> can  we do it on zoom?
[3:26:39] >> on z oom, hybrid?
>> yes, just  so we can all be
[3:26:42] more  available than normal.
>>  sure.
[3:26:45] >> do w e have to do it fair
[3:26:48] soon  because the applications
are due s eptember 1 and
[3:26:51] they're complex s o we need
direction on  which ones to
[3:26:53] move  forward, we can't wait
too long.
[3:26:56] er ffrnlt w e're going to be
option  unless it's
[3:27:00] option  unless it's
extraordinary circumstances.
[3:27:03] >>  okay, I mean, I know we
everyone's summer schedules.
[3:27:07] everyone's summer schedules.
>> I  think we do need to f
[3:27:11] out s ome of the blanks in ou
[3:27:13] knowledge, some o f them there
[3:27:13] is no knowledge t o fill those
we
[3:27:16] we
have to r ecognize that, we
can
[3:27:21] workshop it all w e want but
[3:27:24] when  there is no information
and it's  a fluid process,
[3:27:26] we're not going t o get those
blanks filled in.
[3:27:31] I t hink the prudent thing to
probably
[3:27:32] probably
do  what staff would like us
[3:27:34] to
do is a pprove the three top,
[3:27:38] we can  always do a  project
or
[3:27:42] we can  always stop if we s
reasons t o do that.
[3:27:47] we're n ot 100% committed to
doing that  project prior to
[3:27:52] having  all that information
in
[3:27:55] in
a timely  fashion, we be  --
[3:27:59] won't b e in the game and we
money.
[3:28:00] money.
I t hink we always want to
have
[3:28:03] a chance at b ring ining out
of
[3:28:06] county money  to help pay for
these expensive p rojects.
[3:28:11] >> well, that's u nderstood.
>>  yeah, I didn't think
[3:28:13] anybody didn't understand it,
[3:28:17] but I think w e have to be
[3:28:20] there,  we have to -- we hav
[3:28:22] to take s ome steps that are
[3:28:24] preliminary s teps that we can
always  back away from if
[3:28:29] reasons develop w hy we
shouldn't p roceed but if we
[3:28:33] don't t ake those steps early
[3:28:35] on, we  won't get a chance t
[3:28:36] make  that decision later
because w e won't be in the
[3:28:42] game websinger won't have a ny
money o n the table.
[3:28:46] so, t hat's my only comment.
It  is an exceedingly complex
[3:28:50] area, I c ertainly would
welcome a workshop  but I
[3:28:53] think
discussions on  a timeline
[3:28:57] discussions on  a timeline
that
[3:29:01] we're looking at  that for the
necessary.
[3:29:02] necessary.
>> absolutely, and I didn't
[3:29:08] mean to I mply that we
wouldn't
[3:29:11] be  making some decisions
today, I think  at some point
[3:29:15] have a  workshop to educate
our
[3:29:16] rez dens  what we're doing
might be beneficial.
[3:29:20] >>  or in the interim, I k
[3:29:21] we're going come  back and
revisit t his in july, could
[3:29:24] we
in the  meantime if you need
[3:29:24] decisions to  move forward
with
[3:29:28] the top t hree and then just
get us  information between
[3:29:32] now
>>  maybe we can, I guess
[3:29:36] >>  maybe we can, I guess
[3:29:39] information c omes to us from
forces that w e do not control
[3:29:42] ,
so maybe we w ill, maybe we
[3:29:45] woen  on that timeline.
>> commissioner scholl, do
[3:29:46] you
want to say something?
[3:29:49] >> I  like what roman said
gaps
[3:29:51] gaps
in the information but we
need
[3:29:54] to absolutely be in the g ame
tallahassee
[3:29:58] tallahassee
whether w e know whether
[3:30:02] whether w e know whether
there's going to be match o r
[3:30:07] not and when  I was talking
[3:30:07] with rhonda, she  made a point
[3:30:08] that the  last round of
was supposed to h ave match
[3:30:11] was supposed to h ave match
but
[3:30:15] then they c hanged the rules
and doled o ut money without
[3:30:19] match, so I f you give them a
[3:30:20] large l ist of projects and
[3:30:22] they end  up with a whole
[3:30:24] bufrnl of m oney and say you
[3:30:25] have  to match these, you c
[3:30:25] also refuse a  grant if you
[3:30:27] can't fund it,  but you have
be  in the game.
[3:30:31] be  in the game.
>>  yeah.
>>  if I may?
[3:30:38] >>  let's go ahead with publ
[3:30:42] comments, if you  could start
kind of w here you live.
[3:30:46] kind of w here you live.
>> okay,  first of all, excuse
[3:30:49] my nervousness, t his is the
first time  that I can
[3:30:53] approach
[3:30:56] the county  commissioners, my
part  of the board of
[3:31:03] part  of the board of
directors
[3:31:07] for w ink, blink and nod,
[3:31:09] mario a nd I are part of t
[3:31:11] board o f directors for wink,
blink and nod,  thank you,
[3:31:13] rhonda, for g uiding us
through
[3:31:17] this  process.
Our c ommunity consists of
[3:31:20] about 86  lots, I shared some
[3:31:23] pictures of t he damage to the
hurricane I rma with the
[3:31:26] hurricane I rma with the
commissioners.
[3:31:33] we  lost about 6-8 feet of
jetty,  while I completely
[3:31:38] understand this I s a private
community,  we don't have
[3:31:41] gates
or fences and w hat we are
[3:31:45] requesting is for us  to be
considered  in this
[3:31:49] application.
Iz  completely understand your
[3:31:49] position  from abacker county
commissioners and I r espect
[3:31:52] it
because having worked f or
carp
[3:31:58] rat america, if you don't p ut
[3:32:01] in your application f or the
budget, you a re not in
[3:32:05] consideration,  you can always
pivot as needed, whether  you
[3:32:11] pivot as needed, whether  you
[3:32:15] get it  or you don't, so, ou
[3:32:18] challenge is  that we lost 6
[3:32:20] feet of j etty and that is o
[3:32:23] the m ain canal and while tha
[3:32:25] storm s urge took down those
boulders  that were there, I
[3:32:29] actually goes u p the main
canal a nd would go right
[3:32:32] across u.s. 1 a nd the
it is o ur private community,
[3:32:34] it is o ur private community,
I
[3:32:36] aom   -- I'm not going to
dephi
[3:32:40] that but when t he storm surge
comes through,  it doesn't
[3:32:44] distinguish between p ublic
private land, I t treats them
[3:32:49] private land, I t treats them
all the s ame.
[3:32:53] and o ur ask is -- I know I
[3:32:56] went  through years ago, but
our community, most o f our
[3:33:00] neighbors s pent their time
fixing  their own properties
[3:33:03] ask t rying to recover from
[3:33:04] that, a s a board of director
[3:33:05] elected a  cup of years ago,
[3:33:08] we
picked this up  from the
[3:33:13] previous board, s o my first
estimates
[3:33:19] estimates
, rhonda provided a l ot of
[3:33:25] guidance and I  got a verbal
[3:33:28] estimate from ltl,  I got an
[3:33:30] e-mail from t hem that they
800,  maybe a thousand tons o
[3:33:35] 800,  maybe a thousand tons o
material, they  could do it
[3:33:39] within 3-5 weeks and  it would
thousand  dollars, sorry,
[3:33:42] thousand  dollars, sorry,
rhonda, I g ot that late
[3:33:50] yesterday a fternoon from atl
diversified f rom clinton
[3:33:54] hodges, so  our request is for
county, I t protects our
[3:33:58] county, I t protects our
community b ut it also
[3:33:59] protects
is are right on u .s. 1, we
[3:34:02] is are right on u .s. 1, we
are
[3:34:06] across from buttonwood  bay on
[3:34:08] the ocean side  and I'm sorry
[3:34:10] if I  went too fast, I was a
[3:34:12] little bit  nervous.
>> you  did very well.
[3:34:17] >> anything e lse?
>>  so, we would just like
[3:34:24] be part o f the application,
duck key  is also private,
[3:34:29] right,  we're private but like
I s aid, a storm sewerageurge
[3:34:31] comes through, it doesn't say
this is public, this is
[3:34:33] private, we're going to go
through that area,  it hits
[3:34:37] everywhere, and o ur main
canal, our  jetty f ewe look
[3:34:38] at
that picture, it  took the
[3:34:41] brun
[3:34:46] of the hit  for the main cana
[3:34:49] and right up  that canal goes
[3:34:52] out t o a barbershop, an art
office, o kay, any questions?
[3:34:54] office, o kay, any questions?
Sorry.
>> mr.  Mayor?
[3:34:57] >> I  think you covered it
very
[3:34:59] well, thank you so much.
>> I have a  couple of
[3:35:04] comments, m r. Mayor, I'm well
issue,  it's my district, I
[3:35:07] issue,  it's my district, I
[3:35:06] would ask of you if y ou want
a
[3:35:09] a
very  important and critical
[3:35:10] project right there I n that
neighborhood, would you a ll
[3:35:13] be
the g ame?
[3:35:16] the g ame?
Because we're ging to g o to
[3:35:20] the state a nd ask for these
[3:35:23] taxpayer  resources for a
maybe go  back to your board
[3:35:29] maybe go  back to your board
[3:35:32] and y our members and discuss
this f  we were to considering
[3:35:34] this, w ould you all be
willing
[3:35:37] to have some  skin in the game?
Representative holly, and I
[3:35:41] representative holly, and I
am
[3:35:43] basically where the m ayor was
speaking a  minute ago, if we
[3:35:47] don't apply,  we don't know
and
[3:35:49] what you  come back with, if
we
[3:35:53] have -- we are  willing to
contribute  on our behalf,
[3:35:57] right, to h elp this out, how
[3:35:59] much that is, how much  we can
[3:36:00] gather, how w e go about
funding, we d on't know, but
[3:36:02] if
we didn't come in front of
[3:36:04] you
today,  we wouldn't even have
[3:36:06] that chance, so I  guess my
[3:36:07] answer is on  behalf of the
community, this is  something
[3:36:12] community, this is  something
[3:36:13] we  would take up if you cam
[3:36:17] to us a nd said you have a
it  to our membership.
[3:36:19] it  to our membership.
Did that  provide an answer?
[3:36:21] >> yes  sx, you did a
wonderful
[3:36:24] job presenting by the w ay.
>> apologies, I  did not
[3:36:27] prepare material, a  deck or
anything else, I  hope the
[3:36:31] pictures show the extent  of
the d elay from hurricane irma
[3:36:36] the d elay from hurricane irma
is  most of our property
[3:36:39] owners
were handling t heir own
[3:36:39] damages for t wo or three
after t hat.
[3:36:47] after t hat.
>>  thank you so much.
>>  okay.
[3:36:52] >> I'm  mario garcia, from
wink, b link and nod, and
[3:36:57] mayor, thank you for  the mind
[3:36:58] set of  trying to get
everything in, in o ne shot,
[3:37:01] that's the way to g o on this,
[3:37:02] I was p leasantly surprised to
docket
[3:37:03] docket
up there, I was n ot aware of
[3:37:07] that, that was  good.
Andy is v ery well spoken, I
[3:37:12] don't have  much to add other
than  this break water
[3:37:15] situation in  our little
community which we call o ur
[3:37:16] slice o f paradise, it's
really
[3:37:19] hot ticket  item for us and I
thing
[3:37:22] thing
that andy said in r egards to
[3:37:26] participation, we'll do
whatever it t akes if it's
[3:37:28] reasonable, ba tl 's  all
sortser of  people that live
[3:37:32] there, but whatever we  can do
try
[3:37:33] try
to the best o f our ability
[3:37:35] and
I don't want  to beat a dead
[3:37:38] horse,  I think he spoke well
thank
[3:37:39] thank
today.
[3:37:45] today.
>> thank  you for coming.
[3:37:50] >> thank  you for coming.
>> he w as the final speaker.
[3:38:01] >>on, so  what  drk -- okay,
so
[3:38:05] what do we need a t this point.
Everything  and --
[3:38:07] everything  and --
>> I think I  was talking to
[3:38:10] erin, w e thought we'll wait
to
[3:38:13] july to move  forward but she
projects ready.
[3:38:18] projects ready.
>>  I understand the magnitude
[3:38:22] from today  until the material
[3:38:25] is  ready for application.
[3:38:28] >> august 3 1.
Time off  of that because it
[3:38:33] time off  of that because it
[3:38:37] gets  impossible after a while.
A motion, somebody.
[3:38:41] a motion, somebody.
Approve t he planning
[3:38:43] approve t he planning
projects,
[3:38:46] the s hore line projects and
the road  projects?
[3:38:48] >> the  top three.
[3:38:52] .
Three, isn't  it?
[3:38:58] three, isn't  it?
>> no,  all of them.
[3:39:03] >>  so, the 15 road projects
as
[3:39:07] well  as the three shore line
key transfer  station and the
[3:39:13] key transfer  station and the
as the  planning projects for
[3:39:18] as the  planning projects for
the m unicipal roads and the
[3:39:19] neighborhood adaptation plan.
>>  yes.
[3:39:19] >> so, that would b e the
motion.
[3:39:22] >> that s hould require a
small
[3:39:25] army  of grant writers I would
say.
[3:39:28] >> you're l ooking at her.
>> [laughter],  wow.
[3:39:31] >>  and emilio.
>> did  I just include
[3:39:34] everything that needed to be
[3:39:37] in that m otion?
>>  well, I think what staff
[3:39:41] was trying to point o ut that
[3:39:43] the first three a re going to
[3:39:45] have matches  or apply to the
[3:39:46] with matches, and t hen the
other o nes, we're not, so
[3:39:49] that's clear  the way that
presented.
[3:39:52] presented.
>> so,  I would like to just
[3:39:56] make a  note that list tof 15,
[3:39:57] there might be some tweak tos
[3:39:57] one or two of the projects on
[3:39:59] that list, we may need
substitutions and we  can
[3:40:02] certainly report  that, we
haven't had a  chance to --
[3:40:04] >> go a head.
>> I  was going to say which
[3:40:07] is
fine, you k now, to make
tweaks
[3:40:10] in july but we  need to start
[3:40:11] the p rocess of modeling and
going.
[3:40:12] going.
>> I'll second the motion.
[3:40:14] >> we h ave a motion, do we
>> second.
[3:40:20] >> second.
[3:40:23] >> we h ave a second.
So, we're g oing to bite off
[3:40:29] so, we're g oing to bite off
[3:40:32] the b ig chunk, we're going t
[3:40:35] adjust it a t a later date, if
[3:40:38] we get  funding and there are
[3:40:41] reasons why w e see that we
[3:40:44] could not o r should not
proceed,  we can always not
[3:40:49] proceed but I  think this does
receiving funding because I f
[3:40:53] receiving funding because I f
you don't a sk, you don't get.
[3:40:57] >> may  yo, this reminds me 1
conversation  and the
[3:41:02] conversation  and the
uncertainty I n the room, the
[3:41:05] almost fear in the  room to
start talking absea l evel
[3:41:07] rise
and adaptation and  all that
[3:41:08] stuff, you remember y ou had
some colleagues back  then
[3:41:10] that
didn't want to  have this
[3:41:13] conversation and  here we are
talking a bout that we're
[3:41:16] talking a bout that we're
studying it b ut we're going
[3:41:18] to
do  something about it, so
[3:41:20] thank you f or your leadership
on  that.
[3:41:24] >>  certainly, certainly.
I look back o ver the years, I
[3:41:28] remember when there w as fear
in the  county that we
[3:41:31] couldn't
afford a  paid group of
firemen
[3:41:35] to  replace our volunteers.
I r emember the trepidation
[3:41:39] and
we have accomplished.
[3:41:45] we have accomplished.
[3:41:48] it  takes time and you have t
[3:41:52] bite it o ff a piece at a ti
[3:41:55] but we  have a history of
[3:41:57] getting where we  need to go
support f rom other resources
[3:42:01] support f rom other resources
outside the c ounty, so we
[3:42:04] always appreciate t hat.
>> so,  this was not my last
[3:42:06] slide, this w as my last
slide,
[3:42:07] I thought I m ight need this
avoid anybody t hrowing
[3:42:11] avoid anybody t hrowing
anything at me, b ut --
[3:42:16] >> okay,  well, I guess --
direction we need, thank  you.
[3:42:20] direction we need, thank  you.
>>  okay.
[3:42:21] skfrjts mayor, there was  no
opposition  to that motion,
[3:42:25] crediting?
>> -- c orrect.
[3:42:26] >> is t here any opposition to
it's passed.
[3:42:30] it's passed.
>> thank  you.
>> thank  you.
[3:42:36] >> would this be  a good time
to  break for lunch?
[3:42:41] >> so,  we ran a little long,
[3:42:44] do you want t o come back at
[3:42:46] 2:00  for the 1:30 hearings
hour  before we're supposed to
[3:42:51] hour  before we're supposed to
be  back.
>>  yeah.
[3:42:53] >>  2:00?
>>  2:00.
>> does that  work?
[3:42:58] >> craig, are y ou alright
with
that?
[3:43:24] >>  yes.
Here.
[3:52:08] here.
>>  I know.
[3:52:15] (
>> okay,  folks, we'll call
[3:52:21] the
meeting t o order and stop me
[3:52:25] for n ot being close enough to
[3:52:27] the m ic., so I've pull it
me know.
[3:52:30] me know.
>>  you sound much better, and
[3:52:33] look, I  did too.
>> very nice.
[3:52:35] >> okay,  we'll call the
meeting to order  and first
[3:52:40] item of business?
>> yes, s ir, your first item
[3:52:43] is  on page 14, q1, a pu
hearing to consider approval
[3:52:48] of  a resolution approving a
special permit  allowing a
[3:52:49] temporary construction
staging
area  for a canal
[3:52:55] restoration/water quality
improvement project a t
[3:52:59] property legally described as
part  of tract a, sexton cov
[3:53:04] estates, resubdivision  key
largo,  plat book 6, page
[3:53:05] of
the official records  of
monroe
[3:53:07] county, florida, and I  do not
speak,  do you, jethon?
[3:53:12] speak,  do you, jethon?
>> there  are no speakers on
[3:53:14] zoom.
>> we have  seen a lot of
[3:53:14] these
kind of things.
Do I have a m otion?
[3:53:17] >> move to  approve.
>>  second.
>> any  objections?
[3:53:22] the I tem is approved.
>> emily has  asked that I
[3:53:26] call
the n ext two items together,
[3:53:27] is that o kay?
>>  sure.
[3:53:30] >>  item q2a public hearing to
consider approval o f a
[3:53:35] resolution  approved a special
permit to a llow a temporary
[3:53:40] construction  staging area at
property located  at 2 eagle
[3:53:44] drive, key  largo, relating to
canal restoration p rojts.
[3:53:47] item  q3, a public hearing to
consider approval o f a
[3:53:49] resolution  approving a
perm  allowing a temporary
[3:53:54] perm  allowing a temporary
construction  staging area at
[3:53:58] property  located at 30 osprey
drive,  key largo, relating to
[3:54:01] a canal restoration p roject.
I d on't have anybody signed
[3:54:03] up
jethon?
[3:54:08] jethon?
>>  there are no raised hands.
>> thank  you.
[3:54:13] >> do w e have a motion?
>> so moved.
Er
[3:54:14] >>  s econd.
>> hear ago m otion ask a is
[3:54:19] second, h earing no
objections,
[3:54:23] q2 and  q3 are approved.
>> your n ext item is q4, a
[3:54:28] public  haring to consider
adoption  of an ordinance
[3:54:31] revising section 19-4 o f the
monroe count  the code to
[3:54:36] increase the  tolerates for
card sound  role toll by the
[3:54:39] consumer price  index of
axle rate will  increase from
[3:54:44] axle rate will  increase from
[3:54:46] 80  cents to 87 cents per a
[3:54:50] and t he 3 axle or greater
[3:54:51] rate
will  increase from $10.05 to
[3:54:55] $1.14 per a xle and each
additional axle w ill increase
[3:55:00] from  $10.05 to 1:14.
Due to  increased
[3:55:02] administrative  cost for
toll
[3:55:07] toll
by plate  transactions, a toll
[3:55:11] by  plate 2 axle rate will be
established a t $1.31 per
[3:55:15] axle,
established
[3:55:22] established
at $1.71  per axle and each
[3:55:26] additional  axle will be 171
? Md.
[3:55:29] >> I have a q uestion, the
[3:55:32] cpi's gone  up a significant
amount this y ear, but this
[3:55:35] bridge is in  need of repair
know  how much capital dollars
[3:55:40] know  how much capital dollars
we  have set aside for that
[3:55:44] already, but I  would think we
would perhaps n eed to
[3:55:47] consider
having a  little bit more of
[3:55:48] raise in  the toll like a
[3:55:52] dollar.
I don't t hink that's onerous
[3:56:00] to me b ut I don't use that
[3:56:03] bridge  tall time, but I ju
-- I'm  concerned that that's
[3:56:06] going to  be a very expensive
project.
[3:56:06] >> can  you comment on that
for
us.
[3:56:09] >> I  happen to agree and I'
[3:56:13] not sure  that today is the
[3:56:13] right time to d o it because
[3:56:15] not a l ot of people had a l
[3:56:16] of advanced w arning about it
but I t hink we should
[3:56:20] consider
raising t he toll
[3:56:20] significantly, both judy  and
I
[3:56:26] told  you when we accomplishe
[3:56:29] toll  by plate, we thought we
[3:56:29] should  go to 200 or 300 %
time,
[3:56:32] time,
fairness -- we can discuss  it
[3:56:36] and we'll t ake your guidance,
[3:56:40] if we c hange it today, there
[3:56:42] will be p eople who will say,
warning o f the significant
[3:56:45] warning o f the significant
change, commissioner, I
[3:56:45] appreciate you bringing it
up,
[3:56:48] it's exactly the  right thing
conversations with all  of you
[3:56:53] conversations with all  of you
[3:56:54] which you a ll agree, so my
[3:56:57] suggestion  is you approve it
back  with a different plan
[3:57:02] back  with a different plan
proposal that w e can start
[3:57:05] discussing -- n ormally we
approve these thing I ns june,
[3:57:08] we'll b ring it back somewher
around february or  march so
[3:57:12] there's a l ot of advanced
warning, whatever t he key
[3:57:15] largo meeting is  in that time
be march.
[3:57:15] be march.
>> ma .
Er
[3:57:19] >>   -- march.
>> and then w e can have a
[3:57:24] complete discussion, those
people who use  it a lot would
[3:57:27] be able t o be represented and
with  them, I'm avoiding
[3:57:32] with  them, I'm avoiding
calling it  an argument,
[3:57:33] that's
the approach.
[3:57:35] >> it s eems odd to me we've
had
[3:57:39] had
to  replace that bridge sooner
[3:57:41] or  later and now at the la
moment, w e're talking about
[3:57:46] raising a f ew bucks on the
we'll n ever raise enough
[3:57:48] we'll n ever raise enough
in this short period  of time
[3:57:52] in this short period  of time
[3:57:57] to pay  for the bridge, so w
[3:58:00] better hope f or some more opm.
Strategy but, yes,  sir.
[3:58:03] strategy but, yes,  sir.
>>  that seems like a
[3:58:07] reasonable approach.
>> just a  for must seconds,
[3:58:10] I'm sure  judy may have
[3:58:12] something to say about  it, we
[3:58:15] came to you w ith a plan when
[3:58:18] we established  this thing and
to  raise for some significant
[3:58:22] to  raise for some significant
replacement t of percentage,
[3:58:26] when we're ready  to do it, we
[3:58:29] can then  debt finance going
to  do public infrastructure,
[3:58:32] to  do public infrastructure,
then probably use s ome other
[3:58:35] people's money, s tate or
federal, that will  be a
[3:58:40] strategy, j udy's already
we've budgeted fund t o do
[3:58:45] we've budgeted fund t o do
[3:58:48] that, I t's a multiyear lan to
[3:58:49] get   to the the replacement
the a pproach we've taken,
[3:58:52] the a pproach we've taken,
from
[3:58:55] the o utside looking in, it
[3:59:02] had
it  at this rate and I'm
[3:59:07] it  at this rate and I'm
[3:59:10] assuming  that five years ago,
recommendations, frankly, I
[3:59:12] recommendations, frankly, I
don't remember that.
[3:59:16] >> there was  --
>> [inaudible].
>>  go ahead, judy.
[3:59:22] >> I'm sorry?
>> mayor  rice, you may be the
[3:59:27] only one  that will remember,
study
[3:59:27] study
as  we were automate thing
toll
[3:59:31] and we came b ack and looked
at
[3:59:35] different levels and I
believe
[3:59:39] we did want I t to be higher
2022-06-15t14:07:25.0585701-04:00
[3:59:41] 2022-06-15t14:07:25.0585701-04:00
mainly for a  lot of the
private passenger v ehicles
[3:59:45] that  commute da  daily,
workers t hat use that road,
[3:59:50] so, yes,  it's probably time
to
[3:59:51] take another look at it.
>>  well, I certainly agree
[3:59:55] with that.
>> mr. Mayor?
>> we'll entertain a motion.
[3:59:58] >> thank you, m ay I ask a
question please.
[4:00:01] >> you just did.
>>  may I ask another?
[4:00:01] >> yes.
Er
>>  thank y ou.
[4:00:09] >>  judy, remind me, that th
[4:00:12] point, didn't w e come up with
[4:00:13] a special sun p ass or a plan
[4:00:14] if  r the workers and people
who fraoegtly go  back and
[4:00:18] forth?
.
Er yes, there a re two
[4:00:22] programs, t here's one that is
an annual p ass, these are
[4:00:26] only
for p rivate passenger
vehicles
[4:00:30] and you need  have a sun pass
[4:00:33] account but y ou can purchase
an annual p ass and that's
[4:00:35] unlimited u se of going
through
[4:00:40] the toll  for an annual
[4:00:43] calendar period a nd that is
[4:00:46] set each  year, the price of
[4:00:48] that is s et each year to be
[4:00:49] 50% of  an estimated number of
[4:00:52] -- basic estimated  number of
trips through, five d ays a
[4:00:56] week, every w eek, and we
calculate it  that way, it's
[4:00:59] basically a  50% savings.
We also h ave a second program
[4:01:02] for maybe p eople that can't
purchase a  pass for the
[4:01:05] purchase a  pass for the
entire
[4:01:09] year, if you  have a sun pass
[4:01:13] account and I t's in good
standing again, j ust for
[4:01:16] private p assenger vehicles,
and I didn't  check the number
[4:01:20] and I didn't  check the number
through t he toll, single
[4:01:26] through t he toll, single
passes through, y ou're
[4:01:31] considered a  frequent user
and
[4:01:35] in  your next month's
credit so,  we do have two
[4:01:43] credit so,  we do have two
[4:01:45] programs that do  reduce the
cost  for frequent users under
[4:01:49] those c onditions, so it's a
low toll  if you take
[4:01:51] advantage
of nose g iven --
[4:01:53] >> and judy,  I was reminded
there's t he annual paz option.
[4:01:56] .
Er that's what  I discussed,
[4:01:58] yes, those  are the two, the
the monthly r ebate.
[4:02:02] the monthly r ebate.
>> so, we w ould be doing
[4:02:06] that,
adding that component to
[4:02:09] bha fr we're doing  waez raise
the t olerates?
[4:02:12] >> it's a lways available
every
[4:02:16] year and as w e adjust the
rates, we r ecalculate the
[4:02:21] annual pass c alculation which
includes the  rate going
[4:02:24] through the toll and  the
course the  rebate t monthly
[4:02:28] course the  rebate t monthly
[4:02:31] rebate program is j ust on the
[4:02:34] actual cost and y ou get a 40%
[4:02:35] reduction a s you've -- once
through,
[4:02:37] through,
so  yes, those programs
[4:02:40] continue each year  and are
adjusted.
>> mr. Mayor?
[4:02:43] >> yes, s ir.
>> you want t o go first?
[4:02:45] >> I  want to make a commen
agree w ith the
[4:02:50] agree w ith the
recommendations
[4:02:54] of  kevin and also I think
[4:02:56] definitely need to  raise the
rates t o start funding the
[4:03:00] source because the  pain of
increasing the rates  will be
[4:03:03] far less  than if we have to
[4:03:04] close that bridge because w e
don't have the  money to
[4:03:08] repair
move  forward with that and
[4:03:12] move  forward with that and
to discuss  that so everybody
[4:03:17] to discuss  that so everybody
can --  citizens can have
[4:03:20] input
>>  and thank you, mr. Mayor,
[4:03:23] >>  and thank you, mr. Mayor,
and good  comments, pro tem
[4:03:28] cates, kevin, w ill the annual
pass holders, or  the option
[4:03:31] number 2  folk, will they ge
a
[4:03:33] notice  that the rate will be
[4:03:35] increasing or will  it show up?
At a discount.
[4:03:38] at a discount.
>> we d on't send out specific
[4:03:42] notices, each year  when we
[4:03:44] increase this, we d o send out
there's already been  an
[4:03:47] there's already been  an
article in  the newspaper that
[4:03:50] this was going  to be
discussed
[4:03:54] and then of c ourse we post
the
[4:03:58] signage s o that everyone's
are changing, w e have to
[4:04:02] are changing, w e have to
notify the department o f
[4:04:05] transportation, they operate
payment processing for  us.
[4:04:08] payment processing for  us.
>>  we let it out, and we
[4:04:13] >>  we let it out, and we
[4:04:15] have good c ommunication, many
of  the users obviously work
[4:04:20] at
have good c ommunication with
[4:04:24] have good c ommunication with
out but w e do not send
[4:04:29] out but w e do not send
individual  notices to each
[4:04:34] person.
>> any further  questions?
[4:04:33] anybody like the make a
motion?
[4:04:36] >> I'll make a  motion.
Do we h ave a second?
[4:04:42] do we h ave a second?
>>  second.
>> any  objections?
[4:04:47] hearing n one, the item is
approved.
[4:04:50] >> your next  --
>> thanks,  judy.
[4:04:55] >> your n ext item is q5a
public  hearing to consider
[4:05:00] adoption  of an ordinance
amending  monroe county code
[4:05:03] section 2 1-72, subsection a,
regulations of specialty
[4:05:06] haulers a nd transfer stations
to allow for  the number of
[4:05:10] annual  specialty hauler
licenses  to be increased from
[4:05:13] the limit o f 24 annual
specialty hauler  licenses to
[4:05:19] 40.
And I d on't have anybody
[4:05:23] signed  up in person, jethon?
>> there  are no raised hand.
[4:05:26] >> I'm  merely here standing
in
for sheryl.
[4:05:29] >> do w e have a motion?
>> I'll m ake that motion.
[4:05:34] >>  second.
>> we have  a motion and a
[4:05:42] second, a nybody feeling
[4:05:45] negative about  it?
>>  thank you, commissioners.
[4:05:50] >>  thank you, commissioners.
Number  12, item o18,
[4:05:57] number  12, item o18,
discussion of o ptions for off
[4:06:02] street  parking at bay drive.
Up,
[4:06:03] up,
it's very b rief.
While jethon's queuing that
[4:06:08] up, there a re two items
that come together, john will
[4:06:13] that come together, john will
[4:06:15] be here I n a moment to -- as
[4:06:18] my boss says, ham a nd egg it
[4:06:19] with me, okay, this I s going
[4:06:19] to  look longer than it is
[4:06:21] because you've seen a l ot of
this
[4:06:25] this
there we go,  okay, you know
[4:06:28] there we go,  okay, you know
[4:06:31] what  it is, bay drive, rig
recreational area, just so
[4:06:36] recreational area, just so
everybody remembers,  it's bay
[4:06:41] drive,  not mike forester pa
parks a nd rec advisory board
[4:06:45] meeting,  commission gave us
some direction, w e changed
[4:06:48] the
parking   penalties out there,
[4:06:50] what's the  objective, we
talked to y ou back in march
[4:06:54] and you s aid come back with
[4:06:54] some ideas, we've d ope that,
here's the  idea, let's do
[4:06:58] some
off s treet parking possibly,
[4:07:01] move the fence back f rom the
50
[4:07:04] 50
feet, you g et 8 parking spays
[4:07:08] and is  ark da parking space,
back
[4:07:11] back
100 feet, I 'm told we
probably
[4:07:14] couldn't  go back 100,
probably
[4:07:17] 80, t here's a depression,
replace t hat area with
[4:07:21] gravel,
put parking bumpers I n there,
[4:07:23] appropriate stuff and t hen
comes t he question of is it
[4:07:27] free parking, anybody c an
come
[4:07:29] because it's still  a county
facility, a nybody's allowed
[4:07:32] there, john w ill talk in a
[4:07:34] minute  about how we might be
[4:07:35] able to c harge for parking
from  people that are not f
[4:07:39] the c ounty and have people
that are  from the county have
[4:07:42] free parking  there.
And I  think tla covers all o
[4:07:46] my  stuff.
You're up,  john.
[4:07:48] f y ou have any questions,
okay, here's  the question for
[4:07:53] you, do you want  us to do
that
[4:07:56] and if  so, do you have some
much  parking?
[4:07:58] much  parking?
Okay, you s hould tell me you
[4:08:00] want me t o give you a
recommendation, my
[4:08:04] recommendation is we  move
about 50, 6 0 feet and get 9
[4:08:06] or
so parking  space, it's enough
[4:08:07] to  make the place feel you
can
[4:08:11] get there,  people from the
[4:08:13] neighborhood can  use it,
neighborhood can still drive
[4:08:17] neighborhood can still drive
there a nd use it, if we push
[4:08:22] it  farther and make 20
parking
[4:08:22] spaces, it's going to b egin
to
feel  crowded.
[4:08:26] >> mr.  Mayor, if I might,
I'll
[4:08:30] weigh in  first.
I looked  at it and I thought
[4:08:34] that larger n umber was too
[4:08:36] much, t hat it did just wha
[4:08:37] you s aid, it takes it away
it
[4:08:40] it
just a  parking lot, I like
[4:08:43] the
idea  of somewhere between 8
[4:08:46] and 1 0 parking spots, so you
don't l ive in walking
[4:08:50] don't l ive in walking
distance
[4:08:52] of that neighborhood but  who
county
[4:08:57] county
to baibl  access that park and
[4:09:01] park  and enjoy the space, s
[4:09:02] that's my opinion .
>> anybody else?
[4:09:10] >> anybody else?
>> I  just wanted to say I
[4:09:15] agree with  that,  too many
[4:09:15] parking places, there w ill be
too m any people tat beach,
[4:09:19] not
a g ood experience, there lob
[4:09:21] locals  who walk there, so I
agree w ith you 100% there.
[4:09:26] >> and  it's not really a c
somewhere between 1 5-20
[4:09:28] somewhere between 1 5-20
thousand dollars, we'll d o it
[4:09:31] with  our own labor, that
includes  our labor cost but
[4:09:34] then you  get to the next
[4:09:34] question of h ow do you do
[4:09:36] those thing and I s what do
[4:09:39] you
do about hour a nd is opening
[4:09:43] hours and s uch and so, john's
ready to  talk about that.
[4:09:47] >>  parking and hours.
Parking and hours, yes.
[4:09:49] >>  for that area there, I've
[4:09:50] been out  there a few times to
of
[4:09:52] of
neighbors that live o ut
there,
[4:09:54] something that  if we do
decide
[4:09:57] to do t his, we can continue
with  just the tuesday through
[4:10:02] thursday, k eeping it like
that, keep  thing traffic
[4:10:06] minimal l ike that and we can
[4:10:06] talk about the  fees and all
there,
[4:10:08] there,
there is a lot  of traffic
[4:10:11] that
comes in and out  and I went
[4:10:13] by
a c ouple of families
[4:10:15] a c ouple of families
utilizing
[4:10:18] it  out there, so I agree a
[4:10:21] ago f ew small parking places
still keeping it  tuesday
[4:10:24] still keeping it  tuesday
win, win  for everybody that
[4:10:26] win, win  for everybody that
is
[4:10:29] out there right now at  this
[4:10:33] time.
Going into  segway, goik into
[4:10:37] that  part now, segway into
I'm basically h ere for the
[4:10:41] I'm basically h ere for the
the p ossible installation of
[4:10:45] the p ossible installation of
payment application s oftware
[4:10:48] for p arking and boat ramp at
[4:10:51] harry harris park and o ther
[4:10:53] parks as  needed in the future
[4:10:54] f we decide t o do this with
[4:10:57] the right o f way, that would
[4:10:59] be another park that  I would
[inaudible] or mark m obile
[4:11:01] [inaudible] or mark m obile
tor
[4:11:02] other applications out there
to charge non-residents to be
[4:11:06] able to p ark and our
residents
[4:11:09] is free, talk about the p ark
[4:11:11] that's not  this park but mik
road, I  would strongly
[4:11:15] road, I  would strongly
recommend having a  fee for
[4:11:18] non-residents to use  that as
well.
[4:11:21] the reason  being, I talk
today
[4:11:25] the community o ut there, they
send  me pictures, I've horsed
[4:11:28] 2022-06-15t14:19:13.2057426-04:00
-- observed it  and just
[4:11:31] observing the p arking, I met
luncheon, but,  you know, the
[4:11:36] luncheon, but,  you know, the
late mike f orester talked to
[4:11:40] me, t hat was hoover his
concerns, w e talked at length
[4:11:43] about t he parking issues at
[4:11:45] that  time at sunset park and
commissioner raschein about
[4:11:48] commissioner raschein about
en, I  have pictures I can
[4:11:53] en, I  have pictures I can
[4:11:56] share w ith you where boat
trailers are  lined up at mike
[4:12:01] forester  memorial park, they
[4:12:03] rev u p their jet skis before
[4:12:06] going into it, there is a  lot
[4:12:07] of concerns and h aving that
pay b y app and charging the
[4:12:10] non-residents t o utilize it
would be great  for our
[4:12:12] residents and great f or the
neighborhoods to  be ailt use
[4:12:16] itment some o f the other --
[4:12:17] out there observing, some o f
the other t hings I strongly
[4:12:21] think t he parking application
would b e for, parking apps
[4:12:23] are
easy to use,  you can pay for
[4:12:25] it a  viert of ways, if you
get
[4:12:27] lost, you c an always find
your
[4:12:29] car, roman  told me that,
roman
[4:12:36] may have experience with
that,
[4:12:40] you c an eliminate the toll
booth that's  out there that's
[4:12:44] 2022-06-15t14:20:29.0151309-04:00
at  harry harris, finding
change  has become an issue,
[4:12:49] the line get  ining and out is
[4:12:52] hard and goes t hrough the
neighborhood, it's  hard to
[4:12:56] pull through, p eople don't
know  thousand pull boats so
[4:13:01] it
becomes a n issue get hinting
[4:13:04] that space, there w ould be no
more  staff deposits, parking
[4:13:08] apps, most of t hem, all of
[4:13:10] them are no c ost to the
[4:13:12] county, they come I n and do
[4:13:12] it, t he way they make their
surcharge
[4:13:15] surcharge
cents u p to 75 cents in
[4:13:18] cents u p to 75 cents in
that  we would set
[4:13:23] that  we would set
established,
[4:13:23] residents could still p ark
and
[4:13:28] launch their  boats for free,
just in p articular would be
[4:13:33] without waiting a t a toll
booth, the  parking app gives
[4:13:37] me up t o the minute data, I
if
[4:13:40] if
the boat ramp I s pull, we can
[4:13:43] put some  things on social
media with  the codes, they
[4:13:47] give you  codes like the boat
or
[4:13:48] or
whatever in t he parking over
[4:13:51] here, people  that are coming
it's full w ithout having to
[4:13:55] it's full w ithout having to
boat  ramp.
[4:13:57] boat  ramp.
We could  add days if needed
[4:14:00] and the b oat trailers in th
neighborhood can always d o
[4:14:03] the
drop and  dash xh they do now,
[4:14:07] they  can go and put their
house, enforcement, I 'm still
[4:14:13] house, enforcement, I 'm still
working o ut the details with
[4:14:18] sheriff r amsay and his team,
and t alking with the captain
[4:14:21] yesterday,  short term, we're
going to  have off duty
[4:14:25] officers to c ome out to mike
forester  memorial park and
[4:14:27] mike  mare ris to help wit
the
[4:14:31] line and  see if it's full t
[4:14:32] tell  them it's full and not
still
[4:14:37] still
have  off duty officer tos
[4:14:39] have
citations or  potentially
[4:14:43] training staff like t he city
[4:14:43] of key  west does to be able
[4:14:46] to
issue citations websinger can
[4:14:52] proceed w ith an rfp to get
review
[4:14:56] review
and make  selection, it could
[4:14:58] take  30-60 days, I.t. Would
be
[4:15:01] a huge  part with that, and
the
[4:15:03] ordinance recommendation, I'm
trying to get that  together
[4:15:06] and I m ight meet with parks
july
[4:15:08] july
and kind of go  over all those
[4:15:13] details w ith them, I'm trying
in there  or give some
[4:15:16] in there  or give some
authority t o roman to make
[4:15:19] some fees I f needed for
[4:15:19] parking and s o forth, so that
hopefully
[4:15:24] hopefully
in august after I meet  with
[4:15:28] the p arks and rec advisory
board to  go over those
[4:15:33] details.
Fi   -- any questions?
[4:15:33] >> that's a l ot of
information, I'm sorry.
.
[4:15:38] er  key west has had that f
a
[4:15:42] while and I u se that app
myself, I t's so convenient,
[4:15:45] everybody is  happy with it,
it
[4:15:45] warns you that you  are
running
[4:15:48] out of time a nd you can put
[4:15:52] more  time on it from your
[4:15:54] phone, I  think that's a great
[4:15:57] idea, a nd plus good for
managing  the park and also a
[4:16:00] income  for the county that's
consistent.
>> yes, s ir.
[4:16:03] >> a  motion?
>>  move to approve.
[4:16:07] >> sek.  -- second.
>> thank  you for doing all o
[4:16:11] this, this is part  of the
[4:16:12] reason why  we wanted to hire
[4:16:14] directors to  help us resolve
[4:16:15] these issues and I think this
[4:16:16] is going  to make a big
park
[4:16:20] park
and is   beaches, so good job.
[4:16:22] er
>> this w as just discussion,
[4:16:23] right, and  direction or was
it
--
[4:16:26] >> well, I  didn't read the
[4:16:29] item  into the agenda, I was
[4:16:29] going the ask if I  could go
recordkeeping purposes, he
[4:16:34] recordkeeping purposes, he
just went over  with you o21
[4:16:35] on
page 12 which I s the
[4:16:38] discussion and direction  for
the installation  of payment
[4:16:41] application s oftware for
and b eaches.
[4:16:47] and b eaches.
So, t he motion was to install
[4:16:51] those,  correct, to rfp.
>>  correct.
[4:16:55] start the process.
>> we h ave a motion and a
[4:17:00] second, any further c omments?
Any o bjections?
[4:17:00] >> hearing none, the  item is
approved.
[4:17:03] >> besides  the commissioner
comment, the  last item we
[4:17:07] have
2:30, we have a  few minutes
[4:17:09] 2:30, we have a  few minutes
[4:17:13] before  that.
>>  not according to my watch
[4:17:16] >> it's 2 :30, isn't it?
>> just k idding.
[4:17:20] >> so,  we're just going the
pause until 2:30?
[4:17:24] >> I'll g o back far enough t
[4:17:25] remember the  final budget
ining key west  many, many
[4:17:29] ining key west  many, many
[4:17:32] years ago t hat went on and o
[4:17:35] and on and  I believe staff --
[4:17:37] it required w e finish by mi
[4:17:38] night, I was  not on the
remember somebody standing on
[4:17:41] remember somebody standing on
a clare a nd turning the clock
[4:17:45] back an h our.
[4:17:48] [laughter].
It forward?
[4:17:55] it forward?
>> time I s a relative thing.
[4:17:59] >> we h ave the commissioner
comments.
[4:18:00] >> we could have commissioner
comments, anybody have any
[4:18:05] comment they haven't already
[4:18:08] made?
[4:18:12] I h ave one thing I would like
[4:18:16] to say  and just to point ou
[4:18:19] something, you  know, in my
[4:18:22] experience  on the commission,
I've always w anted to have a
[4:18:27] good  knowledge of what our
and it's  always been very
[4:18:30] and it's  always been very
some  people, present company
[4:18:34] some  people, present company
excepted, w ould frequently
[4:18:38] write l etters and take
positions on things and y ou
[4:18:42] always wonder, you  hear from
and you k now they're the
[4:18:45] and you k now they're the
people who  are following
[4:18:51] issues  closely enough to sit
[4:18:55] down and  write a letter but
[4:18:58] you k ind of wonder about the
[4:19:00] rest  of the community and I
have   truly appreciated the
[4:19:03] input we get  from the
kimberly has  done because
[4:19:05] kimberly has  done because
that
[4:19:09] comes straight  from the
community.
[4:19:15] kimberly, how many meetings
are you d oing this year?
[4:19:19] >>  [inaudible].
Meetings
[4:19:24] meetings
up and  down the keys, so you
[4:19:29] get a  pretty darn good samp
ago, we I dentified
[4:19:34] ago, we I dentified
transportation as perhaps t he
[4:19:37] number one  priority,
transportation  and traffic
[4:19:41] congestion, s o we've moved
[4:19:45] ahead with  that, we do liste
[4:19:48] to that a nd I just wanted to
[4:19:51] say t hat that information to
our c ommunities much better
[4:19:54] our c ommunities much better
than  any alternatives that we
[4:19:59] used  to have, so -- and it
does  change our decisions, so
[4:20:04] thank y ou, kimberly.
>>  well, I've enjoyed
[4:20:06] attending a few o f those with
[4:20:09] kimberly, it's  fun to sit
there and s ee the interaction
[4:20:12] 2022-06-15t14:27:55.9326136-04:00
of  the community and what I
[4:20:15] would also add  to that is I
strongly  encourage anyone who
[4:20:20] wasn't  able to attend one o
website because y ou can
[4:20:22] website because y ou can
[4:20:25] easily
fill it o ut on our website a
[4:20:29] well  and that way we can eve
people.
[4:20:31] people.
>>  which gives kimberly more
[4:20:36] homework to p rocess all that
information.
[4:20:39] >>  well, in any case, thank
that
[4:20:43] that
we're talking to out in t he
[4:20:47] community w ho are not here,
the comment m ichelle made
[4:20:51] about -- you  can just go
right
[4:20:55] on  to our monroe county
[4:20:58] website and f ill that out and
[4:20:58] we would encourage you  to do
[4:20:59] that  because it matters and
thank you.
[4:21:08] thank you.
Plug, w hen are the next ones
[4:21:16] plug, w hen are the next ones
[4:21:19] >> alright, s o on friday, I
[4:21:21] will  be doing a key west tow
[4:21:24] hall  followed with a veterans
update  at the harvey building
[4:21:27] at  11 p.m., then anyone from
[4:21:28] the public  is welcome to
attend, and a gain as you
[4:21:32] mentioned,  there's the online
survey, t he next tuesday, I
[4:21:36] will  be at the marathon
chamber o f commerce luncheon,
[4:21:40] then tuesday evening, I w ill
be  presenting to the ladies
[4:21:44] group of  santa in marathon in
[4:21:45] the eve t hing, then we're
[4:21:45] going the w rap up the survey,
on
[4:21:48] on
the sunday which  is the
[4:21:50] following day websinger h ave
received some e -mails from
[4:21:53] folks w ho really wanted to
just send m e all their
[4:21:56] thought
ins an e-mail, that I s always
[4:21:58] welcome and great but I f you
[4:22:01] do go on  to the survey,
important open ended  question
[4:22:05] important open ended  question
that asks I s there anything
[4:22:06] you want to a dd to the list
of
[4:22:09] priorities, so  we would
encourage everyone to do
[4:22:10] that.
Thank you.
>> thank  you.
[4:22:12] and I  think we've
successfully
[4:22:14] filled up t he four minutes,
[4:22:15] so
we'll move on to  the next
item.
[4:22:20] >>  your next item is s2 on
page 15,  discussion and
[4:22:24] direction for response  to the
requests for  extraordinary
[4:22:29] rate  increases on residential
collection fees b y waste
[4:22:31] management, t heir thon
garbage
[4:22:33] service a nd keys sanitary
service d ue to increases in
[4:22:38] labor a nd fuel costs and
increases in haul o ut and
[4:22:42] disposal costs and  we do have
public  speakers.
[4:22:45] >> would  you like me to ru
thing?
[4:22:46] thing?
>> certainly.
>> if I  may beg your
[4:22:50] indulgence  for one slightly
off t opic comment, I forgot
[4:22:52] to
do something about  the talk
about - -
[4:22:55] >> hold t hat mic. Up a little
bit.
[4:22:58] >>  I'll get closer, this
thing
[4:23:02] is so t all now.
I'm well  known for make ago
[4:23:07] specific comment when I w alk
[4:23:06] into a  room of attorneys and
case,
[4:23:09] case,
I would like  to give an
[4:23:12] attorney credit f or his
engineering expertise.
[4:23:17] we were looking at  ways to
[4:23:20] deal with bay drive a nd the
[4:23:22] guy whose idea it was I s to
[4:23:23] put parking n ose in on each
side was  nobody other than
[4:23:25] mr.
To find a way t o do it and
[4:23:30] to find a way t o do it and
[4:23:34] that's how  that got started.
[4:23:36] you r emember that, right, bob?
Say ?frjts  of course I'm
[4:23:41] say ?frjts  of course I'm
right, I'm  bob.
[4:23:43] >>  jethon, if you have time
queue that thing  up, I
[4:23:47] queue that thing  up, I
appreciate  it.
[4:23:51] framing the I ssue, we've got
requests for  extraordinary
[4:23:55] rate increases, that is
provided for  in the contract
[4:23:57] when  they're unusual
all understand what's h appen
[4:24:04] all understand what's h appen
ined the  last 8 months, I
[4:24:09] don't s ee anything happening,
jethon.
[4:24:14] I see a  whole lot of hand
you.
[4:24:18] you.
That's a  summary of the
[4:24:22] request,  you've all seen th
in  the white paper that I
[4:24:26] sent
you, in a ddition to the
[4:24:27] residential collection  rate
increases,  there's requests
[4:24:29] for 4 d ollars ton more to
haul
[4:24:33] out a nd dispose and our
request for a n increase in
[4:24:35] the
commercial collection which
is
[4:24:37] something like  13%.
The c ontract provides for
them
[4:24:42] to be able  to request it and
[4:24:46] they can  request a fuel
surcharge a s well which they
[4:24:49] have done, there  is no such
provision for fuel  surcharge
[4:24:51] in the  residential or haul
out
[4:24:53] contracts, this I s all just
from the  audit report ts,
[4:24:55] from the  audit report ts,
this
[4:24:59] is  the percentage of fuel an
labor,  the percentage of
[4:25:02] their
expense that is are m ade up
[4:25:04] by
fuel and labor, f uel is a
[4:25:06] pretty  small percentage,
labor
[4:25:08] is by f ar the biggest, we al
experiencing
[4:25:11] experiencing
with  retaining labor down
here
[4:25:17] and if  you don't mind, greg,
[4:25:20] I'll out  you and say you've
[4:25:22] had to  increase your housing
stiefrp,  he's paying $750 a
[4:25:27] month t o his employees as a
be
[4:25:30] be
500,  that's all weighing in
this.
[4:25:35] okay, earlier t oday, you
approved  us for maximum
[4:25:39] tentative s olid waste
[4:25:42] residential b asement of $446,
this year,  you'll notice what
[4:25:47] this year,  you'll notice what
the o ther jurisdictions are,
[4:25:50] aisle m orado is 4555, key
west
[4:25:54] with lower  levels of service,
one g arbage a week and such
[4:25:58] is
still 316,  there's some other
[4:25:58] differences there, I wanted
put I n perspective for some
[4:26:02] put I n perspective for some
of
[4:26:09] our surrounding j urisdictions.
The f uel surcharge provision
[4:26:12] in  the contract says you c
get a  fuel surcharge when t
[4:26:17] fuel cost I s higher than 20%
[4:26:18] above when  we signed the
contract, you c an see from
[4:26:22] may
2014 through  late last year,
[4:26:25] it  was below it, as much as
[4:26:27] 50% below I t but you all kno
[4:26:29] what happened starting at the
end of  the year, november,
[4:26:34] december, the c ost of diesel
[4:26:36] fuel  exploded and it's now
years a go, so it certainly
[4:26:41] years a go, so it certainly
triggers the provision of the
[4:26:43] contract.
This is intended to s how you
[4:26:47] on  the residential side what
cpi increases t hey have
[4:26:50] gotten
fser  what were allowed in t
[4:26:52] contract, y ou'll notice that
experience  is much higher
[4:26:56] because they  were capped at
2.5%  ton residential
[4:27:00] collection, some years  they
got 0,  you'll notice in
[4:27:07] 17-18-19, there w as no cpi
adjustment allowed in t he
[4:27:12] contract, e ven though we
experienced m oderate levels,
[4:27:17] 2, 2.9, 2.9,  on the
commercial
[4:27:20] side, you'll  notice it only
[4:27:21] diverges as w e go into 2022
the
[4:27:25] the
commercial  side of 4% but
[4:27:30] you'll notice all o f the
actual  cpi's were lower than
[4:27:35] that  until this year when
cpi adjustment february t o
[4:27:37] february is 9.8%  and is
capped
at  4.
[4:27:41] the n umbers are not super
the t rend they've typically
[4:27:46] the t rend they've typically
been  below where cpi is over
[4:27:50] time.
Okay.
Some important things,
[4:27:50] there's
a lot of moving p arts to
[4:27:54] this,
everything that I s in this
[4:27:58] contract  affects the
residential a ssessment.
[4:28:01] fuel surcharge should g o up
and d own as fuel fluctuates,
[4:28:06] we wouldn't want  to just
[4:28:06] increase it for f uel and if
way
[4:28:09] way
surcharges  work.
Increase thing haul o ut and
[4:28:14] disposal  cost affects
residential a ssessment,
[4:28:17] commercial rates  which we
adjusted  a few months ago if
[4:28:22] you r emember, it also affect
what we c harge to the
[4:28:24] islamorada  solid waste
contractor, used  to be
[4:28:25] advance, now  it's waste
management, we  have a special
[4:28:28] contract  if you might
remember
[4:28:31] from  2014 that includes
special rates for I slamorada,
[4:28:35] we can't  increase what we p
[4:28:39] waste m anagement to haul it
adjustment to a isle mortared
[4:28:44] adjustment to a isle mortared
did,  marauder -- islamorada,
[4:28:47] and that  special thing for
florida city, they'll h ave to
[4:28:52] start paying  more too and
across the  scale tipping
[4:28:54] across the  scale tipping
rates
[4:28:55] for p eople who bring stuff I
themselves, all of a  sudden
[4:29:00] what we're  paying to haul it
we're letting p eople pay to
[4:29:04] we're letting p eople pay to
say
[4:29:04] say
everything's changed a lot in
[4:29:08] the l ast 6-8 months, my first
[4:29:11] reaction when I h eard this
[4:29:12] was
I've  got a contract that goes
[4:29:16] through 2024, wlie  am I
looking a t adjusting it, I
[4:29:21] came  to the conclusion we
need
[4:29:27] to  be good partners and work
[4:29:31] out some  plan, what is it.
[4:29:34] so, what  I'm asking you to d
[4:29:35] today is  tell us to go awa
[4:29:35] and t ell them, no, or my
recommendation is work  out
[4:29:38] the
details of what it ought  to
[4:29:41] be
that's  fair to both the
[4:29:44] franchisees and t o the county
taxpayers and c ome back in
[4:29:47] july  with whatever
recommended
[4:29:49] changes the contract we o ught
to  make.
[4:29:53] >> one  more part to that,
did this  morning.
[4:29:57] did this  morning.
>> yes, t he way we calculated
[4:30:01] the tentative r ate this
morning, I'm  reluctant to say
[4:30:04] this in p ublic, I took
everything that I s aw them
[4:30:08] asking  for, I say I, sher
today because she h as a
[4:30:12] today because she h as a
medical t hing, we took into
[4:30:16] account as best we  could all
[4:30:16] of the  things they were
[4:30:18] asking
for and said  what would we
[4:30:23] have to c harge if the answer
[4:30:26] is they're  right, they get
everything, so  446 will work,
[4:30:29] we'll f ind a way with o r
[4:30:30] things like w e're going to
change the tipping channeled
[4:30:33] and other t hings perhaps to
bring that  down in august,
[4:30:36] the
reason we p ointed that out,
[4:30:38] 446 is  what's going to appear
[4:30:41] on the trim notice and  I know
[4:30:44] we're going get p hone calls
tla,'s  an 8% increase but
[4:30:46] that's what t he world is
doing.
>> mr.  Mayor?
[4:30:50] >>  thank you, yes, sir?
Maximum w e could charge, it
[4:30:54] maximum w e could charge, it
[4:30:58] can a lways go down, it can't
notification tof  maximum
[4:31:03] notification tof  maximum
amount  can be charged if w
[4:31:05] don't figure something  out.
Ffrjt we  don't make other
[4:31:08] changes,  that number could
come  down, and the reason I
[4:31:12] point this out  is the next
[4:31:14] meeting t  trim notices come
[4:31:18] out the d ay after the next
[4:31:21] meeting, so even if w e set a
[4:31:22] lower rate  as the final rate,
the trim notice.
[4:31:25] the trim notice.
At  the city obviously, the
[4:31:29] at  the city obviously, the
other comment I  would make
[4:31:34] before I  yield is that at
[4:31:36] least I n key west, my
you c annot mess up are
[4:31:39] you c annot mess up are
picking
[4:31:43] up  the garbage and the
toilet's  got to flush,
[4:31:47] there's
[4:31:48] a cost to d o that and my
[4:31:51] experience  with waste
management was all  very good,
[4:31:56] so  I just understand there I
I'm willing t o consider it,
[4:31:59] I'm willing t o consider it,
but k evin, good job, thank
[4:32:01] you.
>> you  can see the few
[4:32:03] questions we have t o answer,
if  you have any specific
[4:32:08] feedback on a ny of them,
we're
[4:32:09] certainly willing to listen
and take  it under advisement
[4:32:12] but there a re some speakers I
think.
>> yes.
[4:32:17] >> if I  might, I'm going to
[4:32:20] add o n to what commissioner
[4:32:20] scholl just said, one o f the
naoez s trategic planning
[4:32:24] naoez s trategic planning
sessions  with kimberly, one
[4:32:25] of
the questioners she a sks is
[4:32:29] what  does the county do right
and e very meeting I've gone
[4:32:32] to, somebodybacker  someone
has
[4:32:32] spaded trash, so it I s
something that's extremely
[4:32:36] important to everyone t o have
their trash p icked up
[4:32:40] especially  living where we
live.
[4:32:41] so, I'm all in  favor of us
work.
[4:32:46] work.
I know  at one point we ta
[4:32:48] about n ormalizing the rates
between all three o f the
[4:32:51] entities  and I know it too
us
[4:32:55] a while but w e got that for
[4:32:58] the commercial, and I think
[4:33:00] the next  thing we need to do
that  for the residential.
[4:33:05] that  for the residential.
[4:33:07] I know especially I n the
[4:33:10] marathon  area with marathon
garbage and a ll the areas now
[4:33:15] that  have so many vacation
rental  units, that that tr
[4:33:18] is so much  more than it ever
week,
[4:33:19] week,
somebody's coming in  and
[4:33:20] they're buying new  product
and
[4:33:22] they're t hrowing away
wrappers
[4:33:24] and it's just a  lot more
residential trash t han we
[4:33:28] used
to  have.
[4:33:32] >>  if I may, there are two
the b usiness about vacation
[4:33:37] the b usiness about vacation
rentals is something we h ave
[4:33:40] been addressing w ith the
franchisees for a c ouple of
[4:33:43] months and  as bob will tell
[4:33:45] you, we have  to did that in
[4:33:46] such a  way that we don't mess
with the  vacation rental
[4:33:48] ordinance but we think we
have
[4:33:50] a way to  deal with that, it
that one  out.
[4:33:53] that one  out.
Uniform r ates for residential
[4:33:56] just  like we have for
commercial, I t's a different
[4:33:59] question, the r eason for
uniform commercial rates  was
[4:34:01] that  some business owners
have
[4:34:03] businesses  in multiple areas
and therefore couldn't
[4:34:05] understand why  they had
different rate asks that  made
[4:34:10] a lot o f sense so you had o
[4:34:12] set o f rates, residential
pick-up is influence  today a
[4:34:15] greater e xtent by the
geography o f the thing.
[4:34:18] I did h ave a conversation
with
[4:34:21] greg con  wrath about the old
years t hat yielded the
[4:34:25] years t hat yielded the
difference and one of t he
[4:34:26] things we conclude is m aybe
we
[4:34:29] need to r evisit that because
changed since 2 5 years ago,
[4:34:33] changed since 2 5 years ago,
figure, a nd so my first
[4:34:39] figure, a nd so my first
reaction is to  approach that
[4:34:44] with a  little bit of caution
[4:34:46] but let's examine why I t is
[4:34:47] and if  a change is made,
arguments apply t o
[4:34:50] arguments apply t o
residential
[4:34:51] as applies to c ommercial
because the b usiness owners
[4:34:54] that  have multiple
businesses,
[4:34:56] residents are I n different
work through that c ertainly.
[4:35:02] work through that c ertainly.
>>  okay.
Anyone  else?
[4:35:09] I don't t hink we all love
[4:35:12] exactly the w orld we live in
[4:35:14] today a s it affects things
costs more  to live here, it
[4:35:19] costs more  to live here, it
costs m ore to do business
[4:35:21] here
and I guess we have t o
[4:35:23] recognize t hat.
>> can  I ask a question,
mayor?
[4:35:25] >> you could.
Er
[4:35:28] >> when it  comes to marathon
[4:35:31] in the  city of marathon, th
the
[4:35:32] the
contractor pick up the
garbage.
[4:35:37] >> yes, sir.
Have any  influence on the
[4:35:42] have any  influence on the
changes we  would be making?
[4:35:47] >> no,  I'm not sure the ex
[4:35:48] legal mechanism for h ow we do
not
[4:35:50] not
normally consult with them  on
[4:35:53] it, we set  the rates based
[4:35:55] upon -- I et assist service we
it
[4:35:58] it
cost  neutral to the
taxpayers,
[4:36:01] they pay the  same special
that
[4:36:05] that
everybody else  does.
[4:36:08] >>  I agree that I look
forward
[4:36:11] to  seeing your
recommendations
[4:36:15] because you all have  all the
information t o make an
[4:36:21] informed decision and a
correct o ne, so I'll wait to
[4:36:26] hear what I t is and I know w
need to increase  it.
[4:36:31] a certain a mount.
>>  okay.
[4:36:31] >>  are you ready for the
public  speakers?
[4:36:35] >> we c ould.
I t hink that we're pretty
[4:36:36] much
change that w ith what they
[4:36:40] change that w ith what they
say
[4:36:44] if they w ant.
>>  greg sullivan representing
[4:37:01] >>  greg sullivan representing
waste management will b e
[4:37:06] followed  by greg con wrath.
>>  greg sullivan, waste
[4:37:08] management, we went through a
six m onth t county requested
[4:37:12] six m onth t county requested
a
[4:37:14] financial audit for f r  the
four franchises which w e
[4:37:17] provided which  also helped
solidify a lot  of the numbers
[4:37:22] so there was  no guessing
games, and  as everyone up
[4:37:25] there knows,  prices are up,
we
[4:37:28] don't have  the luxury of
raising o ur prices as a
[4:37:33] different kind of b usiness
might I f it's grocery store
[4:37:35] or
a c ar repair, we're your
[4:37:36] partners, we've been leer a
[4:37:38] laong time, we  want to stay
[4:37:40] here ra long  time and we're
raised  our housing allowance
[4:37:44] raised  our housing allowance
another $ 250 a month, in the
[4:37:50] key,  I have 80 people, so
[4:37:53] that's a  pretty good chunk of
[4:37:54] dollars, and  even with that,
down  at the lower keys, rent
[4:37:56] is not cheap, w ith the
changes
[4:37:58] that's going to h appen at
roy's trailer park, t here's
[4:38:04] going to be a l ot of folks
[4:38:07] looking for places and  I know
[4:38:08] that  new record's k has got
top o f the 300 they already
[4:38:12] top o f the 300 they already
[4:38:13] have, so  any questions, if
your  time?
[4:38:18] your  time?
>> alright, thank y ou.
[4:38:21] >> greg c on wrath who is
representing  marathon garbage
[4:38:27] services and  he is the final
speaker.
[4:38:30] >> thank  you.
>>
>>  g ood afternoon,
[4:38:35] commissioners, I just wanted
to take t his time to thank
[4:38:40] you
[4:38:39] all f or this extraordinary
out
[4:38:45] out
what we have  to do to make
[4:38:51] this a  workforce, like greg,
we've had a  great partnership
[4:38:56] with you  guys and whatever w
so,
[4:39:03] so,
oil is m ost of our business,
[4:39:07] it's  our tires, our hoses,
hydraulics, t ransmission,
[4:39:10] motor o il, paint, steel,
everything relies on  the
[4:39:14] price
of oil  and we don't know
[4:39:16] where
that went, and  I also wanted
[4:39:19] to thank  staff because they
with us f or this
[4:39:21] with us f or this
presentation,
[4:39:24] putting it together f or you
guys, s o I really appreciate
[4:39:29] your  time.
>> I  have a question,
[4:39:31] something I 've wondered
about,
[4:39:34] are most  of your workers
living  inside monroe county
[4:39:37] or
not?
>> no, most o f my workers
[4:39:40] come
from florida  city and
homestead.
[4:39:42] >> wow.
Er they come down --
[4:39:46] er they come down --
>> they d rive down here?
[4:39:51] >> yeah, I  have a couple of
bring
[4:39:52] bring
them down but I  also give
[4:39:54] them
a tank of g as so that the
[4:39:57] charge isn't that h igh so
that
[4:40:01] they will b ring the employees
so  they're not charging so
[4:40:05] so  they're not charging so
much.
[4:40:06] >> well, good,  good.
That's the  state of things
[4:40:08] I'm
afraid.
>>  yeah.
[4:40:09] >> and  I just was driving
down
[4:40:14] to the meeting yesterday  and
noticed further d own the road
[4:40:19] noticed further d own the road
up, help  wanted, free rent.
[4:40:23] up, help  wanted, free rent.
That's  a smart employer.
[4:40:27] >>  yeah.
In hindsight, I  should have
[4:40:30] bought  an apartment building.
>> in h idingbacker hind
[4:40:32] siekt,
we should h ave all bought
half
[4:40:36] the keys  30 years ago.
>> anything e lse?
[4:40:39] >> no, thank  you.
>>  thank you, commissioners.
[4:40:43] >> thank  you.
>> do we  need to take any
[4:40:47] action  today or just --
>>  well, ao if gotten in
[4:40:51] trouble before for  saying no,
[4:40:52] just give m e a head nod, but
[4:40:54] if it's the s ense of the
provide some  extraordinary
[4:40:59] provide some  extraordinary
relief  on this, we'll come
[4:41:00] back with s omething the next
>> specific,  yeah.
[4:41:03] >> specific,  yeah.
>> and I  think that's really
[4:41:07] all I'm g oing to need at thi
point.
[4:41:10] >> yes.
>> I'm  now going to go off
[4:41:13] script and  make one
observation f or my staff and
[4:41:17] one o f the things that greg
[4:41:18] just made t he point is not
of
[4:41:21] of
his materials are g oing up as
[4:41:24] we  approach budge season,
you're going the  hear from me
[4:41:28] multiple times as w e go
forward,  everything that
[4:41:30] we're
buying to r epair county
[4:41:33] buildings I s also going up,
the c ost of operations, ask
[4:41:38] that's going to b ear on our
budget projections, you're
[4:41:41] going to  see them next month,
please keep t hat in mind.
[4:41:45] we're suffering u nder the
same
[4:41:47] supply chain  things that
everybody else  is.
[4:41:51] and w ith that, I'll accept
your guidance that  we should
[4:41:56] come back w ith some
[4:41:57] extraordinary relief  for the
[4:42:00] franchisees, and I thank  you
>>  thank you, kevin.
[4:42:06] >>  thank you, kevin.
And w e are concluded, as I
[4:42:10] believe,  so we will adjourn
this  meeting.
Thank y ou.