[0:19] >> I thought so. [0:36] Ms. Tanya Mendez [0:37] will lead us [0:38] in the pledge. [0:43] >> I pledge allegiance to the [0:44] Flag of the United States of [0:45] America and to the [0:46] Republic for which it stands, [0:48] one nation under God, [0:50] indivisible, [0:51] with liberty and justice [0:53] for all. [1:00] >> First off, I'd like to say [1:01] Mr. Darren Horan, a school [1:06] board member, has a family [1:08] emergency and will not be [1:09] in attendance at this meeting. [1:16] >> I recommend the board adopt [1:17] the agenda as presented. [1:20] >> Move. [1:24] >> Second. [1:25] >> Second with a comment. [1:27] I want to move [1:28] action items 16 consent [1:32] item 16 to action, please. [1:36] That's the contract [1:40] with the renewal contract [1:41] with Amira Learning LLC. [1:47] >> Any further discussion? [1:48] >> You got it right? [1:51] >> Okay, the agenda is [1:52] approved. [1:56] >> I recommend the board [1:57] approve the minutes from the [1:58] June 9th, 2026 school board [1:59] meeting. [2:01] >> So moved. [2:06] >> Second. [2:07] >> Any discussion? Any no [2:12] votes? Hearing none, [2:13] the minutes are approved. [2:31] >> At this time, we have Ms. [2:32] Kelly Keefe requesting 3 [2:34] minutes. [2:48] >> Wait a minute. [2:49] >> Let me I'm going [2:50] to read first [2:51] before you start. [2:52] Presentations [2:53] to the board are limited to 3 [2:54] minutes [2:55] for each individual speaker and [2:56] 5 minutes [2:57] for the representative [2:58] of a designated group. [2:59] Transfer of time between [3:00] individuals and, or groups is [3:01] not permitted. Letters [3:02] submitted to each board member [3:03] and/or the board secretary [3:04] prior to a board meeting will [3:05] not additionally be read [3:06] into the record. All statements [3:07] must be directed towards the [3:09] board. No person may address or [3:10] question board members [3:11] individually, and board members [3:12] will not engage in a dialogue [3:13] with persons making public [3:14] comment. Furthermore, all [3:15] speakers agree to abide [3:16] by the Code of Conduct of [3:18] Citizens Input, School Board [3:19] Policy 0169.1, and will begin [3:23] their presentation by stating [3:25] their full name and their city [3:27] or town of residence [3:28] for the record. [3:32] >> My name is Kelly Keefe and [3:33] my town of residence is Key [3:35] Largo, Florida. I'm here [3:37] on behalf of the Coral Shores [3:40] wrestling program. I am a proud [3:43] mother of a actually, he was [3:46] the first regional champion in [3:48] over a decade, [3:50] and it's because of Coach [3:52] Dante. I want to recognize [3:53] Dante Giovanetta for his [3:54] excellent coaching that he's [3:56] been providing [3:58] to our children and our youth [3:59] of the county. Again, my son [4:02] took first in regions [4:04] for the first time in [4:06] over a decade. There are lots [4:07] of parents who wish they could [4:08] have been here this evening [4:09] to speak on our we just want [4:13] to spread awareness [4:14] of the needs of the team. [4:17] On behalf of Dane Pataboy, he [4:19] wrote this, so I'm going [4:20] to read this verbatim. His son [4:21] is also a wrestler [4:22] on our team, and he will be a [4:23] sophomore next year. We are [4:24] requesting a dedicated [4:27] wrestling facility for Coral [4:29] Shores High School because our [4:30] current training space no [4:32] longer meets the needs of our [4:34] current student athletes. [4:35] First, this is a safety issue. [4:37] Wrestling requires adequate mat [4:38] space for athletes [4:39] to train safely. Our current [4:40] space is overcrowded, [4:41] limiting our ability to safely [4:43] accommodate the athletes [4:44] currently on the team and [4:45] preventing future growth. [4:46] Second, this is a student [4:48] welfare issue. Wrestling [4:49] requires strict hygiene [4:51] standards. A dedicated facility [4:53] would provide would provide [4:54] storage for equipment, lockers, [4:56] laundry, and access [4:57] to showers, helping maintain a [5:00] clean and healthy environment [5:01] for our athletes. [5:05] Third, this is an equity [5:07] issue. Girls wrestling is one [5:09] of the fastest-growing high [5:10] school sports in America, yet [5:11] we do not have space or [5:13] resources to support a [5:14] dedicated girls program. Our [5:15] interested female athletes [5:16] currently have no option but [5:17] to train with the boys team, [5:18] limiting participation and [5:19] opportunity. Most importantly, [5:22] this investment would support a [5:23] program that has already [5:24] demonstrated success. Coral [5:26] Shores wrestlers have qualified [5:28] for the state championships, [5:29] proving that our athletes can [5:31] compete at the highest level [5:32] in Florida despite limited [5:33] resources. And facilities. [5:38] Imagine what these students [5:39] could accomplish with a [5:40] training environment designed [5:41] for their sport. Wrestling is [5:43] also widely recognized [5:44] for developing discipline, [5:46] accountability, perseverance, [5:47] leadership, and resilience [5:48] qualities that translate [5:50] directly into success [5:51] in the workforce, military, [5:53] higher education, [5:54] and community leadership. The [5:56] lessons learned on the [5:57] wrestling mat help shape [5:58] productive citizens who [6:00] contribute positively [6:01] to their communities long after [6:03] their athletic careers end. A [6:04] dedicated wrestling facility is [6:05] not simply an investment [6:08] in a sport. It is an investment [6:10] in student safety, equal [6:11] opportunity, character [6:13] development, [6:15] and the future success [6:16] of the young people of Monroe [6:19] County. Thank you for your time [6:20] and consideration. [6:25] >> Next up to speak, we have [6:26] Mr. Brian Keefe requesting 3 [6:28] minutes. [6:36] >> Hello everybody. [6:37] As we said, my name is [6:38] Brian Keefe. I'm a resident [6:39] of Key Largo and my son is a [6:41] wrestler that has been [6:42] wrestling with Dante [6:46] since probably he was about 12 [6:51] years old through the club [6:53] program and has been wrestling [6:54] through now his junior year, [6:57] which he had a very successful [6:59] season. But along with other [7:01] wrestlers that had a very [7:02] successful season, [7:05] they did it so because of [7:07] Dante and all the support of [7:09] any previous coaches that we no [7:11] longer have [7:13] with us who have left because [7:15] of the lack [7:16] of facilities here, being [7:19] Zach Sherman and his buddy [7:22] Blay, who were NCAA [7:25] All-Americans and great [7:26] wrestlers. We really need [7:30] facilities [7:32] to ensure the safety [7:34] of our boys, [7:37] but not only that, [7:38] to grow our program. We have [7:41] the ability and the strength [7:47] and good enough wrestlers [7:48] to be one [7:49] of the top programs possibly [7:50] in the state, but because Our [7:52] program is so shorted and our [7:54] space is limited. We cannot [7:55] even provide enough space [7:59] for a full team [8:01] to wrestle and practice [8:04] on a daily basis. Dante has [8:06] talked [8:08] about running two practices [8:09] back to back just to be able [8:11] to provide enough space [8:14] for the guys [8:16] to wrestle and practice safely, [8:19] which. Is a huge commitment [8:21] by himself. So we're just [8:24] trying to make awareness [8:29] to you guys. We have a ton [8:32] of parents. Obviously they're [8:35] not all here because they're [8:40] working, but I know other [8:42] people have been making you [8:43] guys aware of our situation. [8:44] But we wanted the parents [8:47] to come out and say, [8:48] currently we have 3 wrestlers [8:49] that are ranked in the state, [8:50] which is a huge accomplishment [8:51] for a small school like Coral [8:53] Shores. They could possibly [8:54] place this upcoming year. So we [8:56] just want to look for your [8:57] guys' support and be open [8:59] to ideas [9:01] to helping our situation. [9:03] >> Thank you [9:04] for your time. [9:07] >> Next up to speak, we have [9:09] Mr. Jim Matter or Mateo. I'm [9:12] sorry, [9:18] I couldn't read the last [9:20] Okay, Matthias. [9:21] >> Hi, everybody. My name is [9:22] Jim Matthias. I live in [9:23] Tavernier. I'm actually the [9:25] assistant coach. I help [9:29] Dante. Sorry, I'm filthy dirty. [9:32] I just came from a job. I own [9:34] SaberCon, so I don't know, you [9:36] guys have probably seen my [9:38] trucks around. Just to Touch [9:40] on a few things. Our practice [9:41] room is a safety issue. That's [9:47] the first and foremost thing. [9:50] I wrestled my entire life. I [9:52] wrestled Division 1 [9:54] in college. I came in to help [9:57] Dante this year. My son was the [9:58] first sophomore to place [10:00] in the state tournament, for [10:01] Coral Shores this year, [10:03] as a sophomore. Sterling and [10:06] Kelly's son won regionals, [10:07] the first kid in 10 years. We [10:09] had 4 district champs. Right [10:13] now we are the number, 2 team [10:17] in the state, to watch [10:19] out for, as per Cobra, which is [10:22] the biggest wrestling, website [10:24] in the state. We can't do it [10:26] with the size [10:27] of the room we have, [10:29] point blank. [10:30] We're, if you guys want [10:31] to see the room, it's right [10:32] across the courtyard [10:34] over here. With 20 kids [10:37] in there, it's condensed, it's [10:39] small, it's extremely hot, [10:42] the mats are slippery. You [10:45] know, some of these kids are, [10:48] you know, could get hurt [10:50] at any time. So what we've had [10:51] to do is we have to split the [10:53] room basically where we have a [10:57] 2.5-hour practice, but these [10:58] kids are really only getting [10:59] like an hour and 20 minutes [11:01] of work tops. Because the room [11:02] is split in 2, which, you know, [11:04] which is a major issue. Just [11:05] to touch on Bryant's point, [11:07] Zach Sherman was a 2-time [11:08] All-American at University of [11:10] North Carolina. He was here. [11:12] He was coaching our kids. He [11:14] left, you know, because we [11:15] couldn't get a facility built, [11:17] and now he has a massive [11:18] facility in Immokalee, [11:20] Florida, where, you know, he's [11:22] training, you know, 120 kids. [11:23] And, and this is the type of [11:25] caliber guys that we're losing [11:27] because of this. [11:32] Dante is a charter boat [11:35] captain. You know, he's [11:37] extremely busy. I have a [11:41] company that I run. I'm [11:42] extremely busy. Our number one [11:43] thing is the kids. Like, it [11:44] really is at the end [11:45] of the day. I've personally [11:46] over the last 2 years probably [11:47] spent about $7,000 [11:48] of my own money on equipment, [11:49] on uniforms, which is something [11:50] I still never understand. [11:52] Like, I don't understand. [11:53] In a town [11:54] of you know millionaires, [11:56] how there's no money [11:58] for sports? I don't get it. [12:01] But I mean, [12:02] I know everybody has to [12:05] fundraise and do everything [12:06] else. But you know, it's [12:07] something I don't understand. [12:09] If you compare our facilities [12:11] to Key West, we're we're not [12:15] even in the [12:16] in the same area code. [12:17] Like it's it's bizarre [12:19] to me the amount [12:20] of money that's poured in [12:21] down there. Their wrestling [12:23] facility they have [12:25] locker rooms, [12:26] they have a weight room, they [12:28] have a massive you know [12:30] freestanding facility with [12:31] with mats wall to wall. And I [12:33] love Chaz, and we love those [12:34] guys. We actually go [12:35] down and train with them. My [12:37] son just actually wrestled [12:38] for them [12:39] on an all-star team up in up [12:41] in Miami. But the other the [12:45] other issue too was girls [12:46] wrestling. Girls wrestling is [12:48] the fastest growing sport in [12:49] in the country. It's massive. [12:50] We have girls that are [12:52] interested in our team to come [12:53] out for our team. And when you [12:55] put them in a room with, you [12:57] know, 20, 20, 20 boys, you [13:00] know, it's, it's, you know, [13:03] it's a little intimidating. So [13:06] I don't know if that means my [13:08] time's up or but yeah, [13:09] so that's really all I got [13:10] to say. So just trying [13:11] to bring awareness [13:13] to the sport and, you know, [13:14] what's going on. Appreciate it. [13:16] >> Next up to speak, we have [13:17] Mr. Richard Russell requesting [13:19] three minutes. [13:30] >> I'm Richard Russell, [13:31] unemployed resident of Isle [13:33] Morada, Florida. I first of all [13:39] certainly didn't plan to, [13:40] but I want [13:41] to echo the sentiments [13:43] of our wrestling parents. We [13:44] have a very legitimate [13:47] concern here, and it obviously [13:49] involves safety and liability. [13:52] We have a first-class program. [13:55] I know the bigger vision is [13:56] that we will have a great [13:58] provision when we do the [14:02] renovations and restorations, [14:03] but we need a bridge somewhere [14:04] in between. I have a couple [14:06] ideas, and I'll throw those [14:08] out later on at some point. [14:10] The reason I came here is just [14:11] express my appreciation. Thank [14:13] you. To the school board, [14:14] the entire school board, [14:15] for seeing our baseball field [14:17] through fruition. Hopefully [14:18] that will be done tonight. I [14:20] salute Superintendent Tierney [14:24] and also Village Manager Ron [14:27] Saunders [14:29] for their proactive move in [14:31] getting together and [14:32] representing their respective [14:33] entities. and pushing this [14:35] thing across the finish line. I [14:39] think that was sort [14:41] of a critical step, [14:42] and I thank you [14:43] for being aggressive [14:44] in doing that. Also grateful [14:46] to our village and Mayor Don [14:48] Horton and our Vice Mayor [14:50] over here, Sharon Mahoney, [14:53] for their spirit of [14:55] cooperation. I think everybody [14:57] came together here eventually [14:58] because, of basically the [15:00] overwhelming need, the greater [15:02] need, the greater concern That [15:03] being of our children, I think [15:05] ultimately there'll be an [15:06] enhancement for both Coral [15:07] Shores provisions but also [15:09] for village provisions, [15:10] and they'll be enduring. They [15:12] can they can weather storms. [15:14] They can they can last [15:15] for years instead of months. [15:17] I'd be remiss too if I didn't [15:18] say a special thank you [15:19] to board member Conn. Mindy, [15:29] thank you so much [15:33] for calling. last week, that, [15:37] that I was so honored and [15:38] grateful for the you reaching [15:40] out and soliciting, you know, [15:42] my opinion, [15:43] but as it was representative, [15:45] I think, [15:46] of our school as a whole, our [15:47] administration, our staff, [15:48] and I think our community [15:49] in general. I think and I, [15:50] I applaud you [15:51] for looking full spectrum, [15:52] trying [15:53] to weigh every possibility. [15:54] That's you know, that's [15:57] certainly commendable. [16:00] But I also thank you for [16:02] your willingness and openness [16:04] to, to listen to what I felt [16:06] to be the finger on the pulse [16:07] of our needs and concerns up [16:08] here at Coral Shores and the [16:10] Upper Keys. So I thank you all, [16:12] and I look forward [16:13] to hopefully the completion of [16:14] a baseball facility that [16:15] includes some dugouts and [16:16] bullpens and, [16:17] and moving forward. Thank you, [16:18] guys. [16:23] >> Next up to speak, we have [16:24] Mr. Tony Hammond requesting 3 [16:26] minutes. [16:36] >> Well, thank you everyone. [16:37] >> I'm delighted [16:38] to be here. [16:39] And for those who don't know [16:40] me, I'm Tony Hammond and I've [16:41] been a lifetime resident here. [16:43] Also, I joined Coach Russell in [16:44] the unemployment ranks as a no, [16:46] I'm teasing. But I was a 2-time [16:49] head baseball coach at Coral [16:50] Shores and now assistant [16:52] baseball coach at Coral [16:53] Shores. Nothing new to add [16:54] to this other than the clock is [16:57] ticking pretty quickly. We need [16:58] to get this done. We need to [17:01] get it done tonight so we can [17:03] be able to play. We have our [17:04] first conditioning, I believe, [17:07] is January 9th [17:08] for arm conditioning. [17:09] Obviously, the first games will [17:12] be in that first week in [17:14] February. So we need [17:15] to get moving on this, [17:16] and thank you [17:17] for your attention to it, [17:18] and I look forward [17:20] to a good outcome tonight. [17:22] Thanks. [17:30] >> Next up to speak, we have [17:34] Ms. Anna Richards requesting 3 [17:35] minutes. [17:49] >> Anna Richards. I'm still [17:50] employed. [17:55] Mother of baseball players [17:58] and spent many times [17:59] at this field. And I'm just [18:01] going to reiterate what [18:02] everybody else is saying is [18:03] please finish this up. We've [18:04] been working on this for over a [18:06] year and it's really become [18:07] quite tiresome actually. But I [18:09] hope that you guys will [18:10] finalize what's going on, [18:11] make it agreeable [18:13] to everybody. [18:18] And I'll say the same thing [18:19] I said last time I was here. [18:21] It's not fair. These guys are [18:22] saying the exact same thing. [18:24] The amount [18:25] of tax dollars that the Upper [18:26] Keys people put [18:28] into the school system is, you [18:30] know, just like the Key West [18:31] people do. [18:32] And they should [18:33] these kids up here should [18:34] get the same facilities and [18:35] same treatment that goes [18:37] into all the Key West [18:39] facilities. So I hope that you [18:40] guys really, really think [18:41] about that. [18:42] And do what's right [18:43] for the kids up here as well. [18:44] That's it. [18:49] >> Mr. Dick, that [18:50] concludes citizens' input. [19:02] >> It's up to you. You have any [19:03] gems this time? [19:08] >> No, sir. [19:14] >> All items listed as consent [19:15] agenda items are considered [19:17] routine and non-controversial [19:18] by the school board and will be [19:19] approved by a single motion. [19:20] There will be no separate [19:21] discussion of these items. [19:22] Prior to this meeting, board [19:23] members have had the [19:25] opportunity to review each [19:26] of these items and may request [19:27] that any item be moved [19:28] to action item [19:29] for individual consideration. [19:31] That being said, I recommend [19:33] the board approve the consent [19:34] agenda as amended. [19:37] >> So moved. [19:40] >> Second. [19:42] >> Any discussion? Hearing [19:45] none, [19:46] consent agenda is approved. [19:53] >> We have 2 reports this [19:54] evening. The first, [19:56] we're going to talk about some [19:57] of the work that the team some [19:58] of the very high-quality work [19:59] the team has been doing [20:00] around kindergarten kickoff. [20:01] The first iteration, [20:02] the first report we had talked [20:03] about the things we're doing [20:04] to get students enrolled in [20:05] This will be the ongoing [20:07] conversation and coaching we're [20:09] having [20:11] with the 4th graders turning [20:12] into or 4-year-olds turning [20:14] into kindergartners in [20:17] August. So we'll introduce [20:19] Ms. Christina McPherson. [20:30] >> Good evening, School Board [20:31] Chairman John Dick, school [20:32] board members, and [20:33] Superintendent Tierney. [20:35] Tonight we continue to [20:36] highlight the outstanding work [20:37] of our kindergarten kickoff [20:41] events by sharing the wonderful [20:42] videos and summer lessons [20:43] for families that our Head [20:44] Start and VPK teams have [20:46] created this summer. I would [20:47] like to personally recognize [20:49] Ms. Jennifer Walker and Tanya [20:51] Mendez, who is here tonight, [20:52] For the vision and creativity [20:53] that you will see this evening. [20:55] The hours of hard work and [20:58] dedication are evident even [21:00] outside of the workday [21:01] to make learning fun [21:02] for our families. All the [21:04] summer learning videos are [21:05] published in English, [21:08] Spanish, and Creole, and I [21:09] think Ms. Mendez can teach [21:10] Creole now. She's definitely [21:16] worked hard. [21:20] Maria? [21:23] Go back one. As registration [21:31] continues, schools provide [21:33] every new family and student [21:34] with a game board which [21:36] highlights literacy and math [21:37] skills with safety tips that [21:40] will continue to increase our [21:41] kindergarten readiness rates [21:42] in the fall. We have even had [21:46] grandparents and parents call [21:47] in the community and ask where [21:50] they can purchase one. [21:52] >> Did they want [21:53] to speak? [21:55] >> As you can see, the lessons [21:56] that have already been launched [21:58] this summer my personal one is [21:59] Name Writing Made Easy. It's [22:01] messy but a lot of fun. They do [22:02] it with shaving cream. It's a [22:03] great learning tool. The summer [22:04] videos include staff [22:06] beyond the classroom, [22:08] including our SROs, teachers, [22:09] and our very own maintenance [22:14] staff. Everyone in our Monroe [22:17] County School District family [22:20] has been engaged and building [22:21] these personal videos [22:23] for our families. And we'll [22:25] continue to do this throughout [22:27] the summer, as you can see. We [22:31] currently have 411 students, [22:33] kindergartners enrolled. Today [22:35] makes 420. So that's great [22:37] news. And we are saving a seat [22:39] for you, class of 2039. [22:41] That's Key Largo School [22:44] pictured. Parents may view the [22:49] lessons through Facebook, [22:50] Monroe County School District [22:54] websites, our school websites, [22:55] and currently in the short 2 [22:56] to 3 weeks that have been out, [22:57] we've had over 2,000 views [22:58] of the videos. At this time, [23:01] I would like to preview and [23:03] highlight a short collection [23:05] of the videos. He's got it [23:13] downloaded for you. [23:16] >> There we go. There you go. [23:30] >> [VIDEO PLAYING] [25:38] >> Do you have any questions? [25:44] >> Work. [25:46] >> Thank you. Thank you, Ms. [25:49] Walker and Ms. Mendez. They've [25:50] done a fabulous job. [25:53] >> I think Ms. Walker is doing [25:54] a fabulous job running [25:56] around the world. All right. [26:00] At this time, my understanding [26:03] is that a couple [26:04] of people wanted to get in [26:05] to do public comment. So we're [26:08] going to go back and open up [26:09] the public comment. I was [26:11] concerned because, Ed, I [26:13] thought maybe you had locked [26:14] your when I saw that you were [26:16] here and didn't go up [26:17] to speak. So we all need the [26:20] pleasure [26:21] of hearing you speak today. So [26:23] please, Ed. And somebody else, [26:28] right? There's 2 people. My [26:31] understanding is there's [26:32] another good person. [26:48] >> I sent you all 7 pages worth [26:50] of illuminating reading, which [26:53] I presume you guys can read [26:55] on your own. I'm just going [26:56] to go over a couple [26:58] of lowlights not highlights, [26:59] lowlights. Emails have recently [27:01] surfaced documenting that the [27:02] village manager Ron Saunders [27:04] has partnered [27:07] with the village councilor [27:08] Don Horton to cut an [27:10] out of the sunshine deal with [27:12] the school board that [27:14] dramatically contradicts and [27:15] extensively overrules the [27:17] official baseball field license [27:19] wording adopted twice, 5-0 and [27:21] 4-0, after energetic Islamorada [27:24] Council debate and extensive [27:26] public input summarized [27:27] by multiple lengthy meetings [27:29] in an official Islamorada [27:31] Citizen Advisory Committee, [27:35] which you'll hear from soon. [27:38] In his 27 April 26th speech [27:40] to the Annamarie Parks and [27:41] Recreation Committee, Village [27:43] Manager Saunders revealed he [27:44] had been privately carrying [27:45] issue conversations [27:46] between school board members, [27:48] conversations and possible vote [27:49] polling, which the Sunshine [27:51] Law would seem to prohibit. [27:57] Yet the Horton Saunders not [27:58] publicly agenda, not majority [28:00] vote authorized amendments. [28:01] The thing that you're looking [28:03] at today hasn't been publicly [28:05] debated or voted in [28:08] Islamorada. Perhaps school [28:11] officials and lawyers have [28:16] misunderstood the significant [28:20] difference between the [28:23] Islamorada mayor and the Key [28:26] West mayor. The Islamorada is a [28:28] purely ceremonial position, [28:30] which rotates once a year [28:32] on an internal vote, [28:33] whereas the Key West mayor is a [28:34] real office elected [28:37] by an independent election, [28:39] as I recall, and has some real [28:41] longevity and some real [28:43] authorities. Thus, the [28:47] Islamorada attorney works only [28:48] for the majority of the [28:50] Village Council, not [28:53] for the ceremonial mayor, [28:54] who had no legitimate authority [28:55] to unilaterally order the [28:58] attorney and the village [28:59] manager to officially proffer [29:00] any written amendment [29:05] to the superintendent. Not your [29:07] fault, it's their fault. Yet [29:09] at the recent 12 May Island [29:13] Marauder Council meeting you [29:14] guys didn't get [29:15] to attend all these some such [29:16] Sunshine contradictions were [29:17] repeatedly described, with [29:18] village officials adamantly [29:19] claiming listen to this, Mr. [29:20] Lawyer that they could [29:21] legitimately interact [29:22] with school officials outside [29:23] of public venues as though they [29:25] themselves were private [29:27] citizens, when it would seem in [29:30] fact that once elected or [29:31] appointed to public office, [29:32] they remain, like you all do, [29:34] public officials bound by the [29:35] Sunshine Law 24/7, 365, whether [29:41] it's convenient or not. The [29:43] 12 May Alum Rada Council [29:44] meeting comment, [29:47] public comment starts at 23 I'm [29:49] sorry, at . And at , leading [29:51] citizen ball field advisory [29:54] committee member Jamie Engel [29:57] asked publicly why the mayor [29:58] and the village manager had [29:59] ordered the drafting [30:03] of that major written amendment [30:04] to the ball field license [30:06] wording already passed that [30:08] conflicted with the 5040 [30:10] Wording of record. It's the [30:12] only wording of record. At , [30:14] Councilmember Don Horton states [30:17] that he lobbies school board [30:23] members as a private [30:24] individual. No, he doesn't. [30:29] Despite his prior official [30:30] permit wording, he voted [30:31] for twice. During the 4 years I [30:33] was myself elected, Keys [30:35] White, to this school board, I [30:37] had many professional briefings [30:39] on the applicable restrictions [30:40] of the Florida Government and [30:41] the Sunshine Law [30:43] by that lawyer. But [30:45] for those readers who have not, [30:50] here's a few possible relevant [30:52] quotes from the Florida [30:53] Attorney General's 2025 manual, [30:55] which I'd be glad [30:56] to loan you. [31:10] >> Here's the best one. [31:11] Sunshine law is of both [31:13] constitutional and statutory [31:20] dimensions. Florida Supreme [31:21] Court, Town of Palm Beach v. [31:22] Gradison. Write down [31:23] Gradison. The Sunshine Law is [31:25] to be construed so as to [31:26] frustrate all evasive devices. [31:27] That's pretty clear. Paris v. [31:28] State is a warning about [31:31] conducting private meetings [31:34] through the use [31:35] of surrogates. This situation [31:40] may be barely lawful, but it's [31:41] certainly ethically awful and [31:43] needs a strong dose of [31:47] sunshine-saturated attitude [31:48] adjustment, [31:50] and I will personally buy [31:51] Captain LeFere a new set of [31:53] Ray-Bans to mute the glare of [31:55] such long overdue sunshine. [32:14] >> Next up to speak, we have [32:16] Miss Jamie Engel requesting 3 [32:18] minutes. [32:32] >> Thank you, Mr. Chairman. [32:33] Good evening. Jamie Engel, [32:37] Islamorada. I understand that [32:41] the school board district [32:43] sorry, the school district [32:44] attorney, the village attorney, [32:46] and the village manager, [32:47] with some input [32:49] from the mayor, have negotiated [32:50] a scaled-down version [32:51] of the baseball field project [32:52] at Founders Park. The revised [32:53] scope now focuses [32:56] on the baseball field itself, [32:57] including artificial turf, [32:58] field prep, drainage, and some [33:00] of the bullpens, dugouts, [33:01] and some new perimeter fencing. [33:02] The baseball field license [33:03] agreement currently [33:04] on your agenda for tonight's [33:05] meeting is not the same [33:06] agreement that was unanimously [33:07] approved by the Village [33:08] Council on January 8th and [33:09] again on March 14th [33:12] with no changes, additions, [33:14] or deletions by any of the [33:16] council members. I understand [33:18] that the Village Council gave [33:19] the Village Manager the [33:21] authority to negotiate the [33:22] license agreement, Based on the [33:24] twice unanimously approved [33:26] village version. The original [33:28] village version approved [33:30] agreement still exists. It has [33:33] already been reviewed and [33:34] approved [33:36] by the village council. This [33:37] process does not need to start [33:39] over with a new version of the [33:40] baseball field license [33:42] agreement. If your concern is [33:43] getting the new baseball field [33:45] at Founders Park completed so [33:46] our kids and community can [33:47] begin using it in January of [33:48] 2027, The solution is really [33:50] very easy. All you need [33:53] to do is have your attorney go [33:55] to page 3 of the [33:57] village-approved agreement [33:59] from January 8th, go to [34:01] Section B under improvements, [34:03] and strike out the items that [34:05] are no longer part [34:07] of the scaled-down project. [34:09] That's it. You can then sign [34:12] the agreement as written and [34:13] already approved by the [34:14] Village of Islamorada with only [34:16] those necessary changes to [34:18] reflect the scaled-down [34:19] project. The project can begin. [34:21] The kids in the community can [34:23] have a new baseball field [34:24] for next season. That is this [34:27] is not [34:29] about delaying this process. [34:30] It is exactly the opposite. [34:32] This is about keeping the [34:34] project moving forward under [34:36] the agreement that was already [34:37] approved by the Village [34:39] Council instead [34:40] of delaying the project [34:42] by starting over with a new [34:43] agreement that has not gone [34:44] before the council And does not [34:45] appear [34:48] to offer the same protections [34:49] for the village or the [34:50] community. We all want [34:51] to see the kids playing on this [34:52] new baseball field as soon as [34:54] possible. We all want to see [34:56] this project move forward, [34:58] but it should move forward [34:59] under the village-approved [35:00] agreement that protects [35:01] Founders Park, protects the [35:02] community access, [35:03] and protects Islamorada [35:07] residents now and [35:08] in the future. If you support [35:10] getting the baseball field [35:11] completed, And opening it up [35:13] for the community and the kids' [35:14] use by January of 2027. Make [35:15] the simple edit [35:16] to the improvements section, [35:18] sign it, [35:21] and let's get this field built [35:23] for the kids in our community [35:24] so they can play ball. [35:36] >> Second report will be on [35:37] Founders Park baseball field [35:38] improvements by Mr. LaFere. [36:10] >> Good evening, Mr. [36:11] Chairman, board members, Mr. [36:12] Superintendent. As [36:14] Superintendent indicated, here [36:15] to give you an overview [36:18] on the Founders Park GMP that [36:20] we have on your action item [36:22] for consideration today. So as [36:24] you all know, [36:25] based upon the input we got [36:26] from you all and [36:27] from the village, [36:28] staff was tasked to go back to [36:30] our contractor and have them [36:31] consider a reduced scope [36:35] contract for us [36:37] to consider bringing to you, [36:39] which is what we've done. So [36:40] that contract and the [36:41] supporting documents were [36:42] provided [36:44] to us a week ago today, just [36:45] in time for us [36:47] to get them linked up [36:48] to the board member for [36:49] to the board meeting agenda [36:51] for your consideration. The [36:53] reduced scope of work [36:55] for this particular project [36:57] Is the artificial turf [36:59] surface, the dugouts, the [37:02] bullpens, the backstop, [37:03] the perimeter fencing, [37:05] and the knee wall. Not included [37:06] in this scope of work, [37:07] which was [37:08] in the original scope of work [37:09] of the project, [37:14] is the concession and press box [37:15] building, the bleachers, the [37:16] scoreboard, major walkways, [37:17] asphalt paving and restriping, [37:18] and obviously any [37:19] of the systems HVAC, fire [37:23] alarm, all the [37:24] building-associated systems are [37:26] all taken out of that scope [37:27] of work. The timeline assuming [37:29] that both the school board [37:31] tonight approves it and the [37:35] Village Council [37:36] at their meeting on July 7th [37:37] approves this contract [37:39] amendment, the contractor would [37:41] go ahead and move forward [37:42] with permitting [37:44] with the village. They'd move [37:45] forward with all their [37:47] procurement that they need [37:49] for the project, [37:50] and their plan would be [37:52] to mobilize on-site at [37:54] Founders Park on August 10th, [37:58] with substantial completed with [38:00] substantial completion [38:02] currently scheduled for [38:04] January 15th and final [38:06] completion scheduled for [38:07] January 29th. One final note [38:10] that kind of new development, [38:13] we convened the Construction [38:15] Advisory Committee meeting [38:17] committee last night [38:19] at a meeting. [38:20] with the primary goal to review [38:22] this GMP contract amendment. [38:24] They did consider it [38:28] at length, probably for [38:30] at least 45 minutes, going [38:31] over it, asking lots [38:33] of questions, discussing it [38:34] amongst themselves. But [38:36] ultimately they did approve it [38:38] on a 5-0 vote to come to you as [38:39] a recommended project. So that [38:41] completes what I've got [38:43] to present today, [38:45] pending any questions [38:47] from the school board. [38:54] >> I just had one question. [38:56] What is the life expectancy [38:57] of the turf? Remind me. I'm [38:59] sorry, [39:00] I couldn't remember. [39:01] >> Typically, [39:02] in our experience, [39:03] the industry kind [39:04] of standard is 10 years. [39:05] >> Okay. Thank you. [39:06] >> I have a question too. So [39:07] this does not has not chosen [39:09] the contractor [39:11] for the turf yet, true? [39:14] >> The price is based on an [39:16] AstroTurf product that was [39:19] presented to the Design [39:21] Committee, but there were 2 [39:24] other vendors that we will [39:26] consider once this if and when [39:28] the project is approved, [39:31] we'll get back with the [39:34] contractor and either select [39:35] that product or one [39:38] of the other 2 that we [39:42] reviewed. We had some more [39:44] questions of the contractor [39:46] at that meeting. [39:49] >> And did those Do the vendors [39:52] vary much in the expected use [39:55] or the warranted uses [39:56] of them? [39:58] >> No significant difference [39:59] between the, the, the 3 [40:00] products that we looked at. [40:01] The one question we had, one [40:02] had an environmentally friendly [40:03] option that we would obviously [40:04] want to go with, [40:05] and we didn't know if the other [40:06] 2 did, [40:07] and that was being researched [40:08] at that time. [40:11] >> Okay, thank you. [40:14] >> Anyone else? Okay. [40:46] >> So just briefly, I'm happy [40:47] to discuss it more in depth [40:48] with you all if you'd like to [40:49] at this point, but this license [40:51] agreement that's being [40:52] presented is the culmination [40:54] of myself meeting with the [40:55] Village's attorney last week [40:56] and hashing out the terms [40:57] of the agreement. What is [40:58] presented is fully agreed upon [41:00] between myself and the [41:02] Village's attorney, [41:04] with the exception of 4 items [41:05] which I've pointed out to each [41:07] of you. I'll just mention them [41:11] real quick again. It's the I'm [41:13] sorry. It's removing the Phase [41:16] 1 environmental assessment [41:18] requirement. prior to [41:19] construction commencing. A [41:28] provision in Section 4N [41:36] requiring the village to pay [41:37] for any changes it requests in [41:38] its ownership capacity. A minor [41:39] provision [41:41] in 4O just requiring the [41:42] village [41:44] to reasonably cooperate [41:45] with the school board in [41:46] seeking government approvals. [41:49] Provision 5B just clarifying [41:51] that the payment and [41:53] performance bond requirement [41:55] can be satisfied by either the [41:57] contractor or the school board. [41:59] And the last one is in Section [42:01] 10, which just clarifies that [42:03] the insurance requirements [42:04] apply equally to both parties. [42:06] I didn't receive express [42:08] approval from the Village's [42:10] attorney on that, but Ron did [42:13] tell me this evening that he [42:15] believes those provisions are [42:17] okay. If anybody has any [42:19] questions [42:21] on the license agreement, [42:23] I'm happy [42:24] to answer them now. [42:27] >> Otherwise, that's all I [42:28] have. And as far as the GMP [42:30] for the project, [42:31] there's a resolution provided [42:32] for it so that the approval [42:41] of the GMP isn't effective [42:42] until the Village approves the [42:43] license agreement and any other [42:44] necessary approvals. [42:45] >> Hunter, just [42:46] for the record, we just learned [42:47] that the length that the [42:48] expected length of use of the [42:49] Surface is 10 years. Is that [42:55] what the where we get [42:59] to a zero amortization? [43:03] >> In the agreement that's [43:04] currently on the agenda, [43:06] it's set at 8 years. [43:09] >> Okay. [43:14] >> And then what happens at 8 [43:16] years? [43:18] >> So basically, as it's set [43:20] out pursuant to the schedule [43:22] that is attached, it, you know, [43:25] starts at the full price of the [43:27] improvements and then is [43:28] reduced [43:30] in equal amounts such that [43:32] by year 8, if the village were [43:33] to terminate the agreement, [43:35] there would be no money owed [43:37] absent any sort [43:40] of major improvements or [43:41] repairs to the property. [43:44] >> Okay, and then would we be, [43:46] if we wanted to stay there, [43:49] required to make repairs [43:52] on a field that was not [43:54] >> No, you're not required [43:56] to make repairs [43:57] at any set point in time. [43:58] That's [43:59] within your discretion. You [44:01] know, there is a provision in [44:02] there saying that if basically [44:05] there's a, you know, [44:07] safety issue [44:08] with the field due [44:09] to its age or something [44:11] of the sort, that You're the [44:13] school board is assuming all [44:14] liability, you know, [44:16] associated with that. But as [44:20] far as renovations and the [44:22] useful life, it's contemplated [44:23] in there that you go by either [44:25] the manufacturer's warranty or [44:26] an expert's opinion [44:28] on the remaining useful life [44:29] of the field. [44:31] >> And then you may not know [44:32] this, this might be a question [44:34] for Pat, but what is the how [44:36] long what's the expectation [44:38] for the fencing, the dugouts? [44:39] How long would those how long [44:42] would those be considered [44:45] usable? [44:47] >> I do not know that [44:49] off the top of my head. [44:50] >> How often do we replace [44:51] those in our district? [44:52] >> They would certainly outlast [44:53] the surface longer than 10 [44:54] years. [44:55] >> So the investment that we're [44:56] making would go to zero, but [44:57] there would still be a valuable [45:02] field there? [45:04] >> Well, yeah, and part [45:05] of the discussion [45:07] with the village's attorney was [45:08] Well, what does this provision [45:09] look like when the agreements [45:10] are amended or there's a new [45:12] agreement for the remainder [45:13] of the improvements, [45:14] such as the rest of the [45:16] buildings and infrastructure? [45:19] And, you know, [45:21] we didn't really get [45:23] to anywhere concrete there, [45:25] but, you know, they [45:27] acknowledged that the schedule [45:29] would likely be [45:30] for a longer period [45:31] to reflect the, you know, [45:33] the longer period of useful [45:34] life that those improvements [45:35] would have. [45:38] >> Okay. [45:39] >> Right. But so maybe these [45:40] were questions I should have [45:41] asked you before. [45:43] But so roughly half of the [45:45] investment that we will be [45:50] making to the project is the [45:53] field and a little less than [45:54] half is to the rest of the but [45:58] I think the field is a little [45:59] bit more than half, [46:00] right? A little less than half. [46:02] And so the other things that [46:03] would still be That's a break [46:04] down from [46:05] >> And for the new star, [46:06] they have the field estimated [46:07] at about 1.6, and the overall [46:08] project is about 4. So [46:15] >> Yeah. So we would have half [46:16] of the investment still quite [46:18] usable, but the schedule goes [46:19] 2 years early for the field. [46:22] So that would mean that the [46:25] whole thing was still right. [46:32] >> Yeah, that was the extent [46:33] of what the Village's attorney [46:34] was willing to agree to [46:35] during our conference. I mean, [46:37] there is a provision in there [46:38] saying that upon completion [46:40] of the improvements, [46:41] each side will adopt a, you [46:42] know, final schedule based [46:44] on the useful life expectancy. [46:46] So, I mean, [46:49] there could be some deviation [46:51] at that point when the final [46:52] schedule is adopted, [46:54] but it does say 8 years is the [46:55] contemplated period right now. [46:58] >> And in the 5-0 agreement, [47:00] what was [47:01] >> I don't believe there was [47:03] any sort of schedule [47:05] in the version [47:07] of the agreement approved [47:09] by the village in January. I [47:17] think it was just that There [47:18] would be an appraisal possibly. [47:19] I could pull it up if you give [47:20] me a few minutes, [47:21] but I can't remember [47:22] off the top of my head. [47:23] >> Maybe [47:24] before the item comes up. [47:25] Thanks. [47:28] >> So the way it stands now, [47:31] if we spent this $4 million [47:37] in 8 years, We could be thrown [47:38] out. [47:40] >> Correct. [47:42] >> Actually, we have no three [47:45] years. Yeah, they when can they [47:47] throw us out of there? [47:48] >> Either party can terminate [47:50] at any time upon three years' [47:52] notice. [47:55] >> Which means we have three [47:59] years. [48:01] >> Okay, so that so if they say [48:04] they they want us out [48:05] in one year, then three [48:06] within three years we have [48:07] to be out. [48:08] >> Yeah, it's 3 years no matter [48:09] what. [48:10] >> So on day 2, they could tell [48:12] us that they want [48:13] to end the agreement and 3 [48:14] years [48:15] >> Why do they stick to that? [48:16] Why can't they come off [48:17] of that? What and then the 8 [48:18] years, it's almost [48:19] like automatic they're going [48:20] to throw us out. And then what [48:21] happens then is we're still [48:22] in the same problem. We have [48:24] to look for a place [48:26] to do this, [48:28] or are we being held hostage? I [48:30] mean, we're spending money. [48:31] This is I mean, it's taxpayers' [48:32] money. I don't know why they [48:34] keep why they have [48:35] to have that. Just say, [48:37] we're going to build a field, [48:39] we'll do the best we can for [48:41] it. I think we should do a [48:43] first-class, you know, [48:45] project there. But we have [48:47] to have the ability [48:51] to stay there. I mean, [48:52] I can't see how do we tell, you [48:53] know I don't know if somebody [48:54] has an idea [48:57] to do something else [48:58] with that property. It just [48:59] it's mind-boggling. I mean, I [49:00] can't see if I asked the [49:01] village of Islamorada [49:02] to spend $5 million [49:04] on some ways [49:05] over here and say, look, you [49:07] know, but we're going [49:08] to throw you out in a couple [49:10] of years, I don't think they'd [49:11] spend the money here. Why [49:12] should we spend the money [49:13] there? I want [49:14] to do this project. I want [49:15] to see this happen. But I have [49:16] to have a guarantee that we're [49:18] there. I mean, it's [49:21] >> And that we're not spending [49:23] taxpayer money. [49:24] >> And, you know, [49:25] every time we try [49:26] to change something, We send it [49:27] back to Islamorada and then [49:29] they come back [49:30] to the original thing, [49:31] whatever they said [49:32] in the beginning. They never [49:33] budged off of anything [49:34] until a little bit this time. [49:38] But, you know [49:39] >> And to be clear, the village [49:40] council has not seen or voted [49:46] on this thing we're voting [49:48] on today? [49:49] >> Correct. I mean, [49:50] I'm assuming it was shared [49:51] with them, but, you know, [49:53] I didn't share it [49:54] with them. [49:56] >> Yeah, I think we probably [49:57] should be having this [49:58] discussion at the item [49:59] discussion item. I mean, [50:00] we can add well, [50:02] you guys will be around [50:03] to have I mean, that's up [50:04] to you, John, but I think that [50:05] we probably need to [50:07] >> And I figured, you know, [50:09] I wasn't going [50:10] to shut you up. I'd get [50:12] into trouble. I'm always [50:13] getting in trouble anyway. [50:17] Okay, let's [50:21] But let's make it short on the [50:22] policies so we don't keep [50:24] everybody waiting. All right? [50:29] So, well, it's up [50:30] to the superintendent [50:31] to speak now. [50:34] >> Thank you. I have a couple [50:35] things and I'll be brief, [50:36] but I'm going to start with 2 [50:37] introductions. The first is the [50:39] Southern Group's Kate DeLoach [50:40] is going to give us a [50:41] legislative wrap-up. [50:42] So, Ms. DeLoach. [51:03] >> All right. Well, thank you, [51:04] everyone. [51:05] I can't tell you how [51:06] grateful I am to be here [51:07] in person and not on Zoom land, [51:08] as we have been for many, [51:09] many weeks. But I wanted to [51:10] take this opportunity I know [51:14] most of you probably I don't [51:15] know if you have heard this [51:16] news, [51:17] but we do have an addition [51:18] to the Florida Keys office [51:20] at the Southern Group, which is [51:21] really exciting for me. Erin [51:23] and I are joining forces again, [51:25] and so Aaron will be working [51:26] with me on all of our Florida [51:28] Keys clients. And I'm excited [51:31] to say we have another Monroe [51:32] County Schools graduate working [51:35] on the Monroe County Schools [51:36] team. So I dragged Aaron up [51:37] here with me [51:38] to give me a little bit of [51:40] support this evening. [51:41] >> I think we all know who [51:42] Erin is, but do you want [51:44] to give her whole name? [51:46] >> Sure. Hi everyone, [51:48] my name is Erin Muir. I am a [51:49] lifetime Florida Keys resident [51:51] here, proud product of the [51:53] Monroe County School System. I [51:55] joined the Southern Group [51:57] at the start of the year [51:58] after spending my career [52:00] in government and nonprofits, [52:01] so I'm very excited to be able [52:03] to work with you all. And now, [52:04] you know, [52:05] my life is coming full circle [52:06] with my own kids [52:07] in the school system. My [52:12] daughter has been at PKS and my [52:14] son just completed kindergarten [52:16] roundup and is headed to PKS [52:18] in August too. So really [52:21] excited to be working [52:22] with you all. Thank you, Sue. [52:25] And we won't take up too much [52:27] of your time today. We just [52:28] wanted to, one, [52:29] thank you again [52:32] for the opportunity [52:34] to represent you in [52:35] Tallahassee. It was an [52:37] interesting session. It was an [52:38] extended session. I think when [52:39] we finally came home, [52:41] we had been through Special [52:42] Session F, which is always a [52:44] little bit longer than we [52:46] usually plan to spend in [52:47] Tallahassee. But as of today, [52:48] the budget has officially been [52:50] sent to the governor, [52:51] so we should be seeing movement [52:52] on that. I would expect this [52:53] week that we'll see some [52:55] development on that. So we [52:56] wanted to take this chance. [52:57] I'll be sending you all the [52:58] full education silo budget [53:00] analysis. It's pretty hefty. [53:01] This is obviously one [53:02] of the biggest areas [53:04] of the budget in the state. So [53:05] if after you get that you have [53:06] any questions, [53:08] please don't hesitate [53:09] to reach out. But just a few [53:11] things that we wanted [53:12] to highlight. One was there is [53:14] $200 million that has been [53:17] allocated within the teacher [53:18] salary increases, [53:19] and the proviso in the budget [53:21] this year actually stipulates [53:22] that that $200 is directed [53:23] to teachers with 10 years [53:24] of experience or more. So it's [53:26] not the full pot, but that [53:27] $200 million is actually for [53:30] those 10-plus years teachers, [53:31] which was an interesting little [53:32] proviso language [53:33] at the last minute. Another [53:36] issue that we've talked about [53:39] before was the scholarship [53:41] accountability issue, [53:42] which obviously was a big topic [53:43] during session. A bill was [53:44] filed by Senator Gates. It [53:45] actually passed the Senate, I [53:46] want to say unanimously, [53:47] but it did not pass the [53:48] House. They were able to sort [53:50] of incorporate some portions [53:51] of the funding concerns [53:55] into the final budget. So there [53:57] are a few things there, [53:58] including a $79 million [54:00] allocation for districts [54:02] with declining enrollment and [54:05] $47.5 million to create a new [54:07] education enrollment [54:09] stabilization program to assist [54:11] impacted districts. [54:15] moving forward. [54:16] Additionally [54:19] in the budget, [54:20] a little bit closer to home, [54:22] were our budget projects. We [54:23] were successful in getting [54:24] $1.75 million for our Bruce [54:25] Hall project. The Trumbo [54:37] project was also funded at $5 [54:38] million. And just a big [54:39] shout-out to our delegation, [54:40] to Rhett Mooney and Senator [54:41] Rodriguez. This was a tough [54:42] budget year, [54:43] and the PECO list where Bruce [54:44] Hall is is particularly tricky [54:45] with the way that it's [54:46] published, and they were both [54:47] spectacular this year in making [54:48] sure that even when it looked [54:49] like something might fall out, [54:50] they were always available 24 [54:51] hours a day to make sure our [54:52] projects stayed in. So always [54:53] feel like we need [54:55] to give them a big shout [54:59] out for, [55:00] for what they do up there. And [55:01] then the last 2 things I wanted [55:03] to highlight were just 2 bills [55:04] that we've talked [55:05] about before, both [55:06] of which have been signed. One [55:08] was the requirements for a [55:09] standard high school diploma. [55:10] That's one we'll work on [55:12] over the summer. with the [55:13] competitive dance team [55:14] component. And then the other [55:17] was SP 538, the [55:19] Extracurricular Activities [55:22] Bill. That's the bill that [55:24] revises rules on funding [55:25] eligibility and admin [55:26] responsibilities for [55:27] interscholastic and [55:29] extracurriculars. That bill was [55:30] also signed and is actually [55:32] slated to be discussed by the [55:33] Revenue Estimating Conference [55:34] tomorrow. So we'll send you [55:35] guys any additional information [55:37] if that comes out from [55:38] Tallahassee. But with that, [55:39] we're happy [55:40] to answer any questions, [55:42] and hopefully we'll be able to [55:43] report some good budget news, [55:44] some final budget news [55:45] in a few days. [55:54] >> Maybe I have a question [55:56] for you, Mr. Tierney. What's [55:57] the plan? What's your kind [55:58] of ideas about what we want [55:59] to do to move forward on a [56:01] platform? I know last year we [56:02] wanted to do We just thought we [56:03] would do it sooner. But I don't [56:04] know if this is a good time [56:05] for Kate to talk [56:06] about what that process looks [56:07] like or when that timeframe [56:08] might be. [56:09] >> I'll address that. I think [56:11] going forward it helps us [56:12] to codify what we'd [56:14] like our legislative priorities [56:15] to be in Tallahassee. That way [56:17] it doesn't matter who goes [56:19] because we're all going [56:21] to have the same message to [56:22] include any appropriations we'd [56:23] seek. So Ms. Loach was very [56:24] helpful this time talking [56:32] to everybody [56:33] to get those together, [56:34] synthesizing them. Well, we [56:35] were a little rushed this year, [56:36] so we'll probably have either a [56:37] workshop or retreat ahead [56:38] of time to talk through that, [56:39] but we'll end up with a similar [56:40] product every time that the [56:42] legislature is going [56:43] into session. [56:46] >> All right, great, [56:47] thanks. [56:48] And from a timing [56:49] perspective, [56:50] we do have a little bit [56:51] of time this year. It will be a [56:52] later session. We'll also have [56:53] all new leadership new [56:55] leadership [56:56] in the governor's office, [56:57] new leadership in the House, [56:58] and new leadership in the [56:59] Senate. So I think the summer [57:10] will be a really good time [57:11] for us to have that kind [57:12] of platform discussion. [57:13] >> Thank you guys so much. [57:14] Have a great day. Thank you. [57:15] >> Moving forward, [57:16] when we hire new principals [57:17] in Monroe County and I'm [57:18] defining new principals as [57:19] never having served in the role [57:20] or not being a principal in [57:21] Monroe County I'm going [57:22] to ask that person to come and [57:23] briefly address the board. So [57:24] PKS has benefited [57:25] from great leadership [57:26] in recent history, [57:27] and it was important [57:28] to that community, [57:29] to this community, [57:32] to continue that. And we found [57:33] we believe we found the perfect [57:34] person in Ms. Maida Cort. So [57:35] welcome. Thank you [57:37] for being here. [57:43] >> Hi. I'm here tonight [57:45] to introduce myself. For those [57:46] of you who may not know me, [57:48] my name is Maida Cort. I'm [57:49] going to read because I'm a [57:51] little nervous. I'm not [57:52] normally nervous. but y'all are [57:53] pretty intimidating. [57:55] For the past 9 years, [57:57] I've had the distinct honor of [57:59] serving as the assistant [58:00] principal of the Plantation [58:02] Keys school community, [58:03] and I'm also a very proud local [58:05] resident, [58:06] and I'm also the mother of 4 [58:08] Coral Shores graduates. And so [58:12] all of that to say, [58:16] my heart is completely invested [58:18] in the Upper Keys. Today I [58:19] stand before you [58:20] with immense gratitude and [58:21] honor to officially step [58:23] into the role of the principal [58:24] of Plantation Key School. [58:26] First, I'd like [58:28] to extend my deepest thanks [58:29] to our retiring principal, [58:30] Ms. Lisa Taylor. [58:31] Along I have worked alongside [58:33] Lisa for nearly a decade, [58:34] and it has been a master class [58:36] in leadership. She has left [58:37] behind a profound legacy, [58:38] and I'm incredibly grateful for [58:39] her mentorship and her [58:41] friendship. 9 years in the [58:42] trenches will teach you [58:45] everything you need to know [58:46] about a school. I know our [58:48] strengths because I have [58:50] celebrated them in our [58:51] classrooms. I know our [58:52] challenges because I've worked [58:54] alongside our dedicated [58:55] teachers to solve them. [58:56] But most importantly, I know [58:57] our students. I know their [58:59] names, I know their families, [59:01] and I know their potential. [59:02] And so this transition is not [59:04] about starting over. Luckily, [59:07] it's about leveling up. I can [59:08] hit the ground running because [59:10] I already know this building [59:12] inside and out. Thank you for [59:13] your trust and your [59:14] partnership. Thank you [59:20] for your shared commitment [59:21] to our students' success, [59:22] and I look forward to working [59:23] with you closely as we lead [59:24] Plantation Key School [59:25] into its next great chapter. [59:26] That's it. [59:37] >> Thank you for coming. So [59:39] there's 2 more things I have [59:41] to cover. I'm gonna, I'm gonna [59:42] cut my comments short because I [59:43] know there's important business [59:44] We have to get to, [59:46] but there are 2 other things [59:48] that I have to mention. The [59:49] first is hard to believe, [59:50] but my evaluation [59:51] for the first year is due by [59:52] August 1st, and that means [59:54] by the 28th of July board [59:56] meeting we have [59:57] to have that done. So there's a [59:58] meeting on the 21st and the [1:00:00] 28th. I'm going to get the [1:00:01] information that you need. I'm [1:00:02] going to try to get it 2 weeks [1:00:04] ahead, so to the 14th, [1:00:05] so you have it for the 28th, [1:00:06] so you have time [1:00:07] to synthesize that. [1:00:08] But I would just say it is time [1:00:09] for you to start reflecting on [1:00:10] that because as that will be [1:00:12] here in no time. And the second [1:00:14] is, a former superintendent [1:00:16] of mine and mentor used to [1:00:18] regularly say that public [1:00:19] education is the genius of our [1:00:20] democracy and graduation is its [1:00:21] crown jewel. And he impressed [1:00:23] that [1:00:24] on high school principals, and [1:00:25] I was a high school principal [1:00:26] at the time, and his message [1:00:28] was that it is incumbent on us [1:00:29] to defend and protect the [1:00:31] dignity and celebratory nature [1:00:33] of that ceremony. And that [1:00:35] remains with me. So I was so [1:00:37] pleased and proud [1:00:38] of the graduations that 3 high [1:00:39] schools had in Monroe County. [1:00:42] And I would like to thank [1:00:43] the 3 high school principals [1:00:44] for putting [1:00:45] on such magnificent ceremonies. [1:00:46] We did a video [1:00:47] to commemorate that, [1:00:48] and I'd also like to thank [1:00:49] Mr. Damali Phipps [1:00:50] for helping us with that, [1:00:51] but I'm going [1:00:52] to play that video [1:00:53] to conclude my comments. [1:00:56] >> [VIDEO PLAYING] [1:02:58] >> Yeah, that concludes my [1:02:59] comments. [1:03:04] >> Very good. Board members, [1:03:05] we'll start with you, Sue. [1:03:06] You, you're talking a lot [1:03:07] tonight. [1:03:10] >> I loved the movie. Thank you [1:03:11] for that. That's all my comment [1:03:13] is. [1:03:17] >> Anybody over here want [1:03:18] to talk? [1:03:19] >> Go ahead. [1:03:21] >> I'm going [1:03:22] to say what I have to say [1:03:23] at the action item agenda. [1:03:27] >> So it well, I got [1:03:28] to say something. So anyway, I [1:03:30] hope everybody celebrates the [1:03:33] 4th of July with 250 years. [1:03:37] And you know, summertime, 4th [1:03:44] of July, America, it brings [1:03:47] baseball, right? Not soccer. [1:03:51] All these people [1:03:52] with this soccer stuff. [1:03:54] Baseball. Now I [1:03:55] like wrestling too, [1:03:56] but it wasn't in my, you know, [1:03:58] but baseball was important. [1:03:59] See, I, maybe around the 4th [1:04:02] of July, well no, [1:04:04] that would always be the [1:04:05] All-Star Game, But sometime [1:04:06] in July, back when I was a kid, [1:04:08] I'd see the Dodgers play in [1:04:10] Ebbets Field. Those were great [1:04:11] days. Well, anyway, I hope [1:04:13] everybody really celebrates and [1:04:14] be very glad. See, I got my tie [1:04:16] on for America and be very glad [1:04:18] for being in the United States [1:04:20] and being in Florida and being [1:04:21] in Monroe County because this [1:04:27] is a fantastic place. If we [1:04:28] could only just get a damn [1:04:30] baseball field done. [1:04:36] All right. [1:04:39] >> Anyway, Ed, can you just [1:04:40] thank Damali for us, [1:04:41] for the whole [1:04:42] from the whole board to him, [1:04:43] for agreeing? [1:04:44] >> I certainly will. [1:04:45] >> Thank you. [1:04:47] >> No, that's fine. Yeah, okay. [1:04:57] >> So, and open up for the, [1:05:08] workshop no, [1:05:09] it's the public hearing [1:05:10] on the, what do we call those [1:05:15] stamp things? [1:05:16] >> Policies. [1:05:17] >> The policies. Yeah, I don't [1:05:21] remember the policies. So do we [1:05:22] have anybody here to speak [1:05:24] to the policies? Ed, do you [1:05:25] want to speak [1:05:27] to the policies? Okay, good. [1:05:31] Well, I wasn't going [1:05:33] to listen this time either. [1:05:34] All right. And what [1:05:36] about board members? [1:05:41] On the policies relative [1:05:42] to policy? [1:05:44] >> It's human resource [1:05:46] policies. [1:05:55] >> Sometimes the more you say, [1:05:56] the worse it is. Okay, there's [1:05:57] nobody here to speak [1:06:01] to any policies. Okay, does [1:06:03] anybody on the board want [1:06:04] to speak to them? Does anybody [1:06:05] from the district want [1:06:06] to present anything on any [1:06:07] of them? [1:06:10] >> These are working with [1:06:11] Neola and to update policies [1:06:12] that require updating. [1:06:16] >> All right. So with that, [1:06:19] I'm going to close the hearing [1:06:20] on the policies and reconvene [1:06:24] to the board meeting. And we [1:06:26] have an action item number 1, [1:06:29] approval of the revised license [1:06:31] agreement. [1:06:32] >> I recommend the board [1:06:34] approve the revised license [1:06:35] agreement with Islamorada, [1:06:37] Village of Islands, Florida, [1:06:38] for construction [1:06:40] of a baseball field at [1:06:42] Founders Park. [1:06:43] >> So moved. Second. [1:06:44] >> Discussion? [1:06:45] >> Yes. So here's my problem. [1:06:50] We keep getting documents [1:06:52] from lawyers. Quite frankly, [1:06:53] I'm not happy with any of the [1:06:55] ones we've been receiving. I [1:07:00] don't feel like any of the [1:07:02] documents we've received are [1:07:06] protect the students, [1:07:08] the baseball team, [1:07:15] and the school district. We [1:07:16] keep arguing over money, but [1:07:19] ultimately the money we are [1:07:21] spending is not just village [1:07:23] taxpayer money, but also [1:07:29] Monroe County people money. [1:07:31] And I can't [1:07:33] In good conscience continue [1:07:37] to put money in a project where [1:07:39] I feel the village doesn't want [1:07:41] to give us the guarantees that [1:07:43] we need to spend that kind [1:07:45] of money. I love the project. [1:07:48] If it were up to me, we'd do [1:07:49] the whole project. I've said [1:07:51] this before, I wouldn't want [1:07:53] to limit it to just the [1:07:54] baseball field. I understand, [1:07:56] because we want to get this [1:07:58] done sooner rather than later. [1:08:00] That people are willing [1:08:01] to pare down the project, [1:08:03] and I'm fine with that. [1:08:05] But just because we're spending [1:08:08] $4 million instead of $6 [1:08:11] million doesn't mean that we [1:08:12] can't be guaranteed that we'll [1:08:13] keep the field, [1:08:15] that we'll hold on to it, [1:08:16] that it'll be kept [1:08:18] in good repair when it's not [1:08:19] within school district time [1:08:21] of use. So for instance, the [1:08:24] village maintains ownership [1:08:26] when it's not baseball season. [1:08:29] There's no provision in there [1:08:30] for Island Morada as a village [1:08:33] to take care of the field. And [1:08:36] there's no provision in there [1:08:40] for any kind of inspection to [1:08:42] make sure that we're not [1:08:43] getting the field for our kids [1:08:45] in bad repair and then being [1:08:46] asked [1:08:47] to fix it because now it's our [1:08:48] 6 months. There's a long list, [1:08:50] honestly, [1:08:55] of issues I have even [1:08:57] with the pared-down version [1:08:58] of the license agreement. [1:09:00] There's nothing I want more [1:09:02] than to give baseball exactly [1:09:03] what it needs. I'd give them [1:09:04] more if that were easy to do, [1:09:07] but I just can't. I can't agree [1:09:08] to this. What I would agree to [1:09:10] is having the village and the [1:09:11] school district sit down [1:09:13] in a meeting [1:09:16] in the sunshine so that. [1:09:19] Everybody's talking [1:09:23] to one another, and it's not [1:09:26] lawyers throwing agreements [1:09:28] at each other, because that's [1:09:32] the way I feel it is right now. [1:09:34] I know our lawyer takes a lot [1:09:36] of input from all of us, but he [1:09:37] can't put everybody's input [1:09:38] in the agreement, [1:09:41] and I'm sure it's the same [1:09:43] thing for the village lawyer. [1:09:46] So my preference is there would [1:09:48] be a joint meeting. We could [1:09:49] come [1:09:50] to some agreement. I will say, [1:09:52] as far as Baseball is [1:09:54] concerned. I went [1:09:56] to the construction meeting [1:09:57] on Monday, and it shouldn't [1:09:58] take less than three [1:10:04] months [1:10:06] to get the turf field in. So [1:10:07] there's no reason why, even if [1:10:09] the fencing wasn't done and the [1:10:10] dugouts weren't finished, [1:10:11] they couldn't have a great [1:10:17] field to play on [1:10:18] for this upcoming season. [1:10:20] But I can't throw money [1:10:21] at a project. without having a [1:10:23] license agreement that I'm [1:10:26] comfortable with. And so [1:10:30] for me, I'd love to amend the [1:10:32] action item agenda, [1:10:33] and I'm not sure how we would [1:10:35] do that, but I'd like it [1:10:39] to be us agreeing to meet [1:10:41] with the village, and then the [1:10:42] village can hopefully have [1:10:44] something [1:10:45] on their next agenda, and we [1:10:47] can do something as quickly [1:10:48] afterwards as possible. So I am [1:10:50] not going to, vote for this [1:10:56] license agreement as it [1:10:57] currently stands, [1:10:59] and I'm not going to change [1:11:02] what I believe again just to [1:11:03] give the village something else [1:11:05] to change. So I'm going [1:11:08] to be a no vote. [1:11:10] >> Board Member Conn, if you [1:11:13] want [1:11:14] to offer a friendly amendment [1:11:15] after everyone has a chance [1:11:16] to talk. That's the time [1:11:17] to do it. [1:11:18] >> Thank you. [1:11:23] >> Then I'm done. [1:11:24] >> I would [1:11:25] like nothing more than [1:11:26] to pass this today, but [1:11:27] for me, there's, you know, as [1:11:28] Mrs. Conn mentioned, [1:11:31] we are responsible [1:11:32] for taxpayer dollars, [1:11:33] and they're all of Monroe [1:11:34] County's taxpayer dollars. It [1:11:35] isn't just, you know, limited [1:11:36] residents whose money we're [1:11:37] spending. So for me, I would [1:11:39] like to see one that agreement [1:11:40] changed to at least five years [1:11:41] because it's hard [1:11:44] to invest four million dollars [1:11:46] with the possibility that we're [1:11:47] gone in three. And secondly, [1:11:49] I'd like to see the [1:11:52] amortization schedule equal [1:11:53] with the the lifetime [1:11:57] of the turf. I mean, [1:11:59] if we're still left [1:12:00] with you know valuable time, [1:12:02] then that has value. So [1:12:04] to me, [1:12:06] we're still leaving money [1:12:07] on the table at the end [1:12:09] of eight years. And we're asked [1:12:11] to leave, we're still putting [1:12:13] taxpayer dollars out without [1:12:14] any guarantee that our kids can [1:12:15] still use it. So if, you know, [1:12:18] the board is willing [1:12:20] to amend that item [1:12:22] with those provisions for me, [1:12:24] that seems to work. My last [1:12:25] concern I did find, which was [1:12:26] at the end of the lifespan [1:12:27] of the turf, [1:12:28] the maintenance part of it, [1:12:30] I just want [1:12:31] to make sure that we're going [1:12:32] to have to come back [1:12:33] in and redo the turf and The [1:12:34] whatever repairs Doug I may [1:12:36] need, which could be [1:12:37] in the millions again [1:12:38] since we're spending four [1:12:39] in you know 2026. Lord knows [1:12:40] where it'll be in ten or [1:12:42] fifteen more years. I just want [1:12:43] to make sure that there's a [1:12:44] provision in there that we will [1:12:46] revisit the negotiation [1:12:47] for an amortization schedule [1:12:48] for the money we invest. You [1:12:49] know, ten, fifteen years [1:12:53] from now when it's time to do [1:12:54] those improvements. I just want [1:12:55] to make sure that we are good [1:12:57] shepherds [1:12:58] of taxpayer dollars. That's [1:12:59] all. And believe me, more than [1:13:01] anything, all I would like [1:13:04] to do is to give those kids. [1:13:05] Exactly what they deserve, and [1:13:06] for me, there's no kid. [1:13:07] Doesn't matter where the child [1:13:08] is, which school they attend. I [1:13:09] want every kid to have the best [1:13:11] that we can possibly provide [1:13:13] for them, and I think we all [1:13:14] want the same thing. So let's [1:13:15] just find a way [1:13:17] to make it happen. [1:13:19] >> So you know we keep we we [1:13:21] were told today that the [1:13:22] easiest thing is for us [1:13:26] to just. Agree [1:13:30] to the 5-0 license agreement [1:13:35] from the village, [1:13:36] and that agreement was written [1:13:39] without any input [1:13:42] from the school district. So [1:13:44] when that was approved in [1:13:45] January, I believe, I felt that [1:13:47] that was the opening salvo for. [1:13:53] Negotiating. Since that time, [1:13:55] the relationship [1:14:01] from what I've seen, [1:14:04] the perceived relationship [1:14:10] of the school board and the [1:14:11] Village of Islamorada has gone [1:14:13] from being co-partners, 2 [1:14:15] government agencies working [1:14:16] together through an ILA [1:14:18] for a responsible use [1:14:19] of tax dollars to the good [1:14:20] of everyone in the community to [1:14:22] we're the renters and they're [1:14:24] the landlords and we should [1:14:26] just agree to the 5-0 vote [1:14:30] because we're renters. We're [1:14:32] not renters. We are 2 [1:14:33] government agencies. So some of [1:14:47] the confusion when we had our [1:14:48] retreat when was that, [1:14:51] February? and we went line [1:14:55] by line [1:14:56] through the document and came [1:14:57] up with what would be our [1:14:58] return salvo [1:15:02] on the negotiation, you know, [1:15:07] it was like, we're not going [1:15:09] to listen to any [1:15:10] of those things. We're going [1:15:12] to go back to the 5.0. And even [1:15:13] today Right. You know, [1:15:14] we're being told that they want [1:15:16] to go back [1:15:17] to the 5-0. I mean, this is [1:15:19] for ultimately maybe $8 million [1:15:20] that the school district is [1:15:22] going to invest on a piece [1:15:23] of property that, you know, [1:15:25] we have an ILA that just from a [1:15:29] year or so ago saying that as [1:15:33] long as we all cooperate, [1:15:34] we can use it for 40 years. [1:15:36] But now we're being told that, [1:15:38] you know, [1:15:49] it's their way or the highway, [1:15:50] that we can get kicked out [1:15:51] at different times, that [1:15:52] there's an amortization that [1:15:54] goes to zero when there is [1:15:56] still tremendous value [1:15:58] in the field. And, you know, [1:15:59] I'd like [1:16:00] to just sit here and talk [1:16:04] about the kids. I would like [1:16:06] to just Do the field. I would [1:16:08] like to move forward [1:16:09] with that, [1:16:10] and I would be willing [1:16:12] to follow, Ms. Talbott's [1:16:13] amendments [1:16:15] to bringing a return salvo [1:16:17] to the Village Council [1:16:19] for real consideration. And we [1:16:21] have not yet heard what the [1:16:24] disagreements from the [1:16:26] Village Council are [1:16:28] with our terms. We've only [1:16:30] heard that they don't want them [1:16:33] at all. And so I would [1:16:34] like I would like [1:16:36] to I would be willing to vote [1:16:37] for those amendments [1:16:42] to this licensing agreement [1:16:45] with the understanding then [1:16:47] that if there was not an [1:16:49] agreement to That document that [1:16:51] we could have, as Ms. Conn [1:16:55] said, [1:16:59] a very structured meeting [1:17:02] to vote on the areas where [1:17:03] there's differences. [1:17:18] But I don't want to come back [1:17:19] for a meeting [1:17:20] after we've said what we want [1:17:21] with an idea of we just want [1:17:22] the 5-0 because there's no [1:17:23] reason for us to go [1:17:24] to that meeting. [1:17:28] We need [1:17:29] to know that there's going [1:17:30] to be negotiation between 2 [1:17:32] governing bodies. I mean, [1:17:33] we're I love Founders Park and [1:17:34] I and that baseball field is a [1:17:38] bit [1:17:41] of an embarrassment right now. [1:17:43] And we're willing [1:17:44] to make it fantastic. [1:17:45] But it has [1:17:46] to be a joint effort. It has [1:17:48] to be in the spirit [1:17:52] of the ILA, which is that we [1:17:55] are equal bodies working [1:17:57] together. You have the land; we [1:17:58] have the money. We're going [1:18:00] to do something really great [1:18:01] for the community. That's what [1:18:02] it's been [1:18:03] from the very beginning, and I [1:18:04] don't know where the hookups [1:18:06] have all gotten. And if, and [1:18:08] honestly, I I really wish we [1:18:09] could just get it negotiated [1:18:13] the way the ILA lays it out. [1:18:14] That it is. supposed to be [1:18:16] between the superintendent and [1:18:18] the village manager, but it [1:18:20] appears that we get no [1:18:21] feedback. We put out our salvo [1:18:22] and then we just hear, no, [1:18:24] we don't want that. We don't [1:18:25] hear why we don't why these [1:18:26] things are not good, [1:18:28] which things you might be able [1:18:30] to work on, which are not. So [1:18:31] anyway, that's where I am. [1:18:40] >> Well, originally we as The [1:18:42] plans were we were going to [1:18:43] build the whole stadium and [1:18:44] press box, and because of the [1:18:45] bickering back and forth and [1:18:47] the time schedule [1:18:49] to get it done in time [1:18:50] for baseball season, [1:18:52] it's now pared down. And if we [1:18:54] stall it even further, [1:18:55] we're going [1:18:56] to miss that opportunity. And I [1:19:00] personally am willing [1:19:05] to go forward [1:19:08] on this tonight. And approve it [1:19:10] with their changes. Again, I [1:19:13] think people can't understand [1:19:14] why anybody would think we [1:19:15] would spend money and not have [1:19:16] some guarantee that we'd be [1:19:18] there. I mean, [1:19:20] it just how could I do it? I [1:19:21] mean, it's just crazy. So [1:19:24] that's our problem has been [1:19:26] that all along. And I think if [1:19:29] we Dirk give us the right [1:19:31] language on that. What we want [1:19:34] is I mean, I want more than 8 [1:19:36] years. I gotta tell you, [1:19:37] I'm looking for 15 or 20. You [1:19:38] know, I mean, we're gonna [1:19:40] baseball's gonna be around. [1:19:42] It's gonna be around. You're [1:19:43] gonna have a team, and that's [1:19:45] where they're gonna play. [1:19:46] Again, we've been looking, you [1:19:47] know, as this thing became more [1:19:52] and more of a problem, [1:19:53] we've been looking [1:19:54] for alternative places [1:19:55] to do it. There's really not a [1:19:56] lot of choices around here. [1:19:57] What about the Mets? So, you [1:19:59] know, you're going [1:20:01] to put them really into a big [1:20:04] bind or we'd wind up doing [1:20:05] something [1:20:06] in the back and it's not going [1:20:08] to be as good as somebody's [1:20:09] going to get hurt in it, [1:20:10] meaning the track will lose [1:20:11] something or somebody's going [1:20:12] to lose some or everybody's [1:20:13] going to lose a little bit to [1:20:14] the different sports we put [1:20:16] back there. So really we need [1:20:17] to get this in Founders Park [1:20:19] and we need to, you know, [1:20:21] scheduling a joint meeting, [1:20:23] you know, could be a problem, [1:20:25] could take time, [1:20:27] people are away. If we could [1:20:29] get them to approve that they [1:20:31] don't throw us out [1:20:34] of that place, [1:20:35] we'll spend the money. We'll [1:20:39] spend the money as soon as [1:20:41] possible and get this thing [1:20:43] done. But, you know, [1:20:45] realistically, I cannot approve [1:20:48] that we will spend that money [1:20:50] with the possibility that we'd [1:20:52] be thrown out. Now, you know, [1:20:54] and even the council members [1:20:56] and the board members. First [1:20:58] of all, I'm going [1:21:00] to be unemployed in a couple [1:21:02] of months, so I'm going [1:21:03] to join these 2 characters. [1:21:05] So, you know, but anyway, [1:21:08] but and the Isla Morada board [1:21:11] is going to be different. This [1:21:13] board is going [1:21:15] to be different. So we really [1:21:17] need to protect the school [1:21:18] district and the taxpayers' [1:21:19] money. Mr. Mayor, Because it's [1:21:24] money. Yes, some [1:21:26] of it's coming out of Isle of [1:21:27] Marada taxpayers. A lot more is [1:21:29] coming out of other areas. So [1:21:30] but that's the way it is. We [1:21:31] want to get this thing done. [1:21:32] And so I would like if Dirk you [1:21:35] could give something that would [1:21:37] satisfy Miss Talbott and Miss [1:21:38] Conn as best we can and Miss [1:21:41] Dr. I would send that [1:21:44] to them. Let everybody know. I [1:21:46] don't know what they're saying, [1:21:51] why we're what we're doing [1:21:52] that's holding it up. Let's let [1:21:53] everybody know it's because we [1:21:54] want proof that we'll stay [1:21:55] there. That's it. That's all it [1:21:57] is to me. [1:22:04] >> I have a list that's a bit [1:22:06] longer than Mrs. Talbott's, and [1:22:09] my issues are with I'm okay [1:22:13] with the 10 years and the [1:22:15] decline. My issue is with the [1:22:17] material breach because that [1:22:19] breach only applies to us. It [1:22:21] doesn't apply to the village. [1:22:22] They want final input [1:22:24] pre-design, [1:22:27] which I'm totally happy [1:22:29] to do, but once we have a final [1:22:32] design, I'm not willing [1:22:34] to change it. The 2 the 3-year [1:22:36] termination notice, even if 5 [1:22:38] years doesn't satisfy me. [1:22:39] Because we're looking at 10 [1:22:44] years for a turf field and more [1:22:45] than that [1:22:46] for the other things. They want [1:22:48] the right to approve the [1:22:51] contractor even though the [1:22:53] contractor is insured, [1:22:57] is allowed under school [1:22:58] district and government [1:22:59] requirements, and then only if [1:23:02] their withdrawal is [1:23:05] unreasonable but it doesn't say [1:23:06] what unreasonable is. So is [1:23:10] unreasonable we shouldn't have [1:23:12] a Key West company building [1:23:13] something in the Upper Keys? [1:23:15] That could be unreasonable. [1:23:18] That's language that's [1:23:19] in this license agreement. [1:23:21] There's no provision [1:23:23] for inspection at all [1:23:24] at the end of the village use [1:23:26] before We take it [1:23:31] on as a baseball field, [1:23:32] and I'd be happy [1:23:34] to have that provision apply [1:23:35] to us as well, [1:23:36] but there's nothing in there [1:23:38] about that either. And I'm [1:23:40] super nervous about [1:23:43] on the fly here today coming up [1:23:46] with a new agreement that we [1:23:47] all agree on and sending it [1:23:50] to the village again [1:23:51] to either agree or disagree. [1:23:53] And if we don't propose right [1:23:54] now and make an agreement as a [1:23:55] board here today saying [1:23:56] to them that we are willing [1:23:58] to meet, then they don't have [1:23:59] to make that decision [1:24:02] at their next meeting. And [1:24:03] that's what's going [1:24:04] to postpone. Because if [1:24:06] at their next meeting they look [1:24:08] at the changes we want [1:24:09] to make and say, I [1:24:10] like this one, I don't [1:24:12] like that one, I'm not willing [1:24:14] to change anything, [1:24:19] we are back at square one. And [1:24:21] that has been my issue all [1:24:22] along. [1:24:26] What's been happening is [1:24:27] that we keep giving them [1:24:28] things. We're like, [1:24:30] this is our final best, [1:24:31] and they keep saying no, and [1:24:32] then we come back and rewrite [1:24:34] everything. I'm not doing that [1:24:36] anymore. I'm not going [1:24:37] to change the agreement [1:24:38] on the fly, [1:24:40] and the only way I'm going to [1:24:42] pass something is if we are [1:24:44] going to agree to meet [1:24:45] with them because it needs [1:24:47] to be in the sunshine. The [1:24:49] discussion between the board [1:24:52] and the village needs to happen [1:24:54] so everybody can hear what [1:24:56] everybody's saying. And even if [1:24:57] I 100% had the belief that [1:24:58] everybody on this current board [1:25:01] was never going to do any [1:25:04] of these things to us, [1:25:06] the board changes every 2 [1:25:07] years. [1:25:08] >> Doesn't matter. [1:25:10] >> And 2 years is not enough [1:25:12] of a guarantee for me to put [1:25:14] $4 million taxpayer money [1:25:15] in a project. And I also don't [1:25:16] think we should pass a GMP [1:25:19] without a license agreement. [1:25:22] So I'm going to be the very, I [1:25:24] guess, hated one tonight, [1:25:27] but I'm no [1:25:29] on everything unless it's to [1:25:30] have a meeting where we have a [1:25:32] very specific agenda [1:25:33] on a very specific project. [1:25:35] That's certainly something we [1:25:36] should be able to agree upon [1:25:37] at the very least. [1:25:40] before a joint meeting, but [1:25:41] that's where my votes are [1:25:42] going. [1:25:52] >> Is it possible to wait, [1:25:53] I'm sorry. Is it possible if [1:25:55] you were talking about going [1:25:56] to 5 years, but to go to 10 [1:25:59] years if we make amendments [1:26:00] here? Yvette, would you if [1:26:03] we're making a Sending [1:26:07] something over that could [1:26:09] potentially be approved. I [1:26:10] think hearing John, 10 years [1:26:13] would be what he would want. [1:26:15] We believe that the field is [1:26:16] going to be still valuable at [1:26:18] 10 years. So [1:26:20] without a major breach [1:26:22] of some kind, [1:26:24] that we would be able to stay [1:26:26] in the, you know, guaranteed [1:26:27] to staying in the field and [1:26:29] for 10 years and then a you [1:26:30] know, as I don't even know how [1:26:32] to say that, [1:26:34] but that's what [1:26:41] >> Yeah, that is proposed by [1:26:44] Mrs. Talbott, or simple enough [1:26:46] to make [1:26:47] for the notice provision. It's [1:26:49] 2 provisions, so that could be [1:26:50] changed. I can do it [1:26:51] on the screen for everyone [1:26:54] to see if you guys would bear [1:26:55] with me. Same thing with the [1:26:57] early termination provision [1:26:59] from 8 to 10 years, [1:27:01] that's simple enough as well, [1:27:02] and I can do it up there. I [1:27:04] think probably the best way [1:27:06] to go is that if there is going [1:27:07] to be any recommended changes [1:27:11] to the license agreement, [1:27:14] that each change just be [1:27:15] by individual motion. So [1:27:17] >> Why would we have a 10-year [1:27:18] agreement [1:27:20] for a 40-year ILA? [1:27:24] >> Why would we have what? [1:27:27] >> A 10-year agreement when the [1:27:28] ILA says 40 years. [1:27:30] >> It's all right. [1:27:32] >> And that 10 years is only [1:27:34] the life of the turf. The life [1:27:35] of all the fencing and the [1:27:36] buildings and the other things [1:27:37] that we're doing in order to [1:27:38] make the field great has a [1:27:39] longer shelf life than 10 [1:27:41] years. And that's only one of [1:27:42] the many provisions that I find [1:27:43] concerning as an attorney. And [1:27:45] it's unfortunate that Darren [1:27:47] had his financial his family [1:27:55] emergency, because as a fellow [1:27:58] attorney, I would hope that he [1:28:00] would see some [1:28:01] of the same problems that I do. [1:28:04] And I kind of feel [1:28:06] like I'm left swinging here [1:28:08] on my own, [1:28:09] and there's just no chance [1:28:10] without us as a district being [1:28:12] protected that I want [1:28:13] to postpone again in the hopes [1:28:15] that the village will give us [1:28:17] something. [1:28:24] thing, finishing our [1:28:26] founders' project. [1:28:27] >> If the village turned down [1:28:29] what we're proposing here [1:28:30] tonight, [1:28:31] there would be no sense [1:28:32] in ever meeting with them 5 [1:28:33] on 5, because there's no way I [1:28:34] would back off [1:28:36] of the not having the security [1:28:37] of being in that park. So I [1:28:40] think she's sending it [1:28:42] to them, and if If they turn it [1:28:44] down, then it's over, [1:28:45] and then we have to build it in [1:28:46] the back. I would say let's do [1:28:48] that. [1:28:50] >> I think if we had there [1:28:54] would be no reason to have a [1:28:56] 5-on-5 meeting if we all agree. [1:28:58] But if it turns out that there [1:29:01] are specific parts of the [1:29:03] agreement where we don't get [1:29:07] agreement on, [1:29:09] that would be the reason. And [1:29:10] we would need [1:29:12] to know what those were [1:29:16] before we held a meeting, [1:29:17] and we would need to meet [1:29:19] on those things, not move the [1:29:21] bar, change the thing, [1:29:23] just vote [1:29:25] on the things that still need [1:29:26] to be discussed. [1:29:30] >> We're now going to sit here [1:29:31] for the 3rd time to come up [1:29:33] with an agreement that we're [1:29:35] giving the village in the hopes [1:29:37] that maybe they'll agree, when [1:29:39] in fact what they gave us is [1:29:40] less than what we asked for. [1:29:42] And I'm tired [1:29:44] of doing it. [1:29:47] >> Well, if they do it again, [1:29:48] it's over. Go ahead. Okay, so [1:29:52] there was no motion? We have a [1:29:55] motion and a second, and we [1:29:56] have [1:29:57] >> who moved and who seconded? [1:29:59] >> The item is on the floor, [1:30:01] but no motion [1:30:02] for an amendment. Right. [1:30:08] >> Right. So Sue, you were the [1:30:10] movant? [1:30:12] >> What? [1:30:13] >> You were the movant? [1:30:14] >> I made the motion, [1:30:15] yeah. [1:30:16] >> Okay, you can amend your [1:30:18] motion if you wish. [1:30:19] >> I'm the only one who can [1:30:20] amend it? [1:30:21] >> We need a motion to amend [1:30:22] that will be voted on. [1:30:23] >> Okay, I want a motion [1:30:25] to amend to Increase the [1:30:31] guaranteed time on the field [1:30:33] to 10 years or whatever the [1:30:34] kick-out date. And [1:30:40] to what else do I want, [1:30:41] Yvette? [1:30:43] >> What's part 2? [1:30:44] >> The amortization schedule. [1:30:45] So these go the length [1:30:47] of the useful life [1:30:48] of the turf. [1:30:49] >> Yeah, but in this case, [1:30:50] if we have a 10-year thing, [1:30:51] then You can show it up there. [1:30:55] >> Yeah, put it up there. [1:30:57] >> Do it up there. This way [1:30:58] she'll say, we'll go with that. [1:31:02] >> I've got it up there. [1:31:04] >> It's up there. [1:31:05] >> It's up there. [1:31:07] >> In the folder? [1:31:09] >> No, it's displayed. It's [1:31:10] ready to go. Just hit that [1:31:11] Word icon at the bottom. [1:31:28] >> This is going [1:31:29] to be slow because I'm going [1:31:30] to read everything paragraph [1:31:31] by paragraph again [1:31:33] for the 4th time. [1:31:38] >> Okay, so at this point, [1:31:41] don't any of the motions to [1:31:44] Yeah, but he's going to make it [1:31:47] official what they so he needs [1:31:49] to second the amended motion. [1:31:51] >> You want [1:31:52] to only change those 2 things [1:31:54] in the license agreement? [1:31:56] >> I said [1:31:58] at this time the motion is [1:31:59] to change those 2 things. It [1:32:01] won't be if you would like [1:32:03] to amend it [1:32:05] in a separate motion, [1:32:06] we can do that for you. [1:32:10] >> So again, I think it would [1:32:12] probably be cleaner [1:32:14] to do it one section [1:32:15] at a time. So the first one, [1:32:17] if I'm hearing everybody right, [1:32:19] would be motion to amend [1:32:20] Section 3B, [1:32:22] changing the non-renewal period [1:32:26] from 36 months to 5 years. [1:32:29] >> We have a 40-year ILA. Why [1:32:32] would we do anything less than [1:32:33] 40 [1:32:43] But there is a separate help. [1:32:44] That's the problem. There are [1:32:47] so many paragraphs in here that [1:32:48] address more than one thing [1:32:49] at a time. [1:32:50] >> We want that for 10, not [1:32:51] for 5. I thought she said 10. I [1:32:53] said 10. We want that for 10 [1:32:54] years, not 5. [1:32:55] >> I don't think it should be [1:32:57] 10 years. I think it should be [1:33:06] longer. [1:33:07] >> So this is just providing [1:33:09] the notice of non-renewal. So [1:33:10] this is saying that when the [1:33:11] optional renewal periods come [1:33:13] up, they have the ability [1:33:15] to give 3 years advance notice [1:33:16] saying we're not invoking the [1:33:17] renewal option. So I heard that [1:33:18] being as 5 years. [1:33:20] >> Okay, that's so at 5 years [1:33:21] they could say, at 10 years So [1:33:23] it [1:33:32] >> correct, correct. They'd [1:33:33] have to give you a 5-year [1:33:34] >> 5 years you have [1:33:36] to be out. [1:33:37] >> They'd have to give you a [1:33:38] 5-year heads-up [1:33:39] to terminate the agreement. [1:33:40] >> 5 years from date 2 [1:33:42] of the life [1:33:43] of the agreement. [1:33:44] >> So if they say they want us [1:33:46] out, then you're talking 5 [1:33:47] years, not so I want to see 10 [1:33:49] years. I wanted to see that no [1:33:54] matter what happens, [1:33:55] we're there for 10 years. [1:33:56] >> Except by mutual agreement. [1:33:57] >> I mean, if we want [1:33:58] out and they want out, that's, [1:33:59] that's a different story. I [1:34:00] agree with that. But as long as [1:34:02] we can't be thrown out in 10 [1:34:05] years [1:34:06] from the day we start working [1:34:08] on it, that's all I want. [1:34:14] Whether how if they wanted [1:34:17] >> This actually [1:34:19] >> Whatever they tell us that [1:34:20] they want us out, you know, so [1:34:22] I would hope I hope they give [1:34:25] us some sort of a warning in [1:34:26] 10 years. They say yeah, I [1:34:27] don't care if they give us a [1:34:28] 3-year warning on it. [1:34:30] >> If I could show you a little [1:34:31] bit just to maybe clarify. So [1:34:32] it's set up as a 20-year [1:34:33] initial period with 2 10-year [1:34:35] renewals that are automatic [1:34:36] unless they give the 3-year [1:34:38] heads up. And that kind [1:34:39] of just ties [1:34:41] into the termination provision [1:34:43] at the end, which, you know, [1:34:45] basically says that either [1:34:46] party may terminate [1:34:48] at any time. upon 3 years [1:34:50] advance notice. [1:34:52] >> It's not as simple as [1:34:53] looking [1:34:54] at just one paragraph. That's [1:34:56] not how the license agreement [1:34:57] works. [1:35:01] >> Well, right here. [1:35:05] >> We'd have to go paragraph [1:35:07] by paragraph like we did at the [1:35:09] first retreat that we sent the [1:35:10] village [1:35:11] on this and make sure that [1:35:13] It's all stated the way that we [1:35:15] feel is safe. And if you guys [1:35:17] want to do it now, it's , I [1:35:19] have no problem. I'll stay here [1:35:21] until if that's what it takes. [1:35:23] But I am not going to on the [1:35:24] fly do a paragraph here and a [1:35:25] word there, and I can't even [1:35:26] imagine our lawyers would let [1:35:37] us do that. [1:35:39] >> Yeah. [1:35:42] >> Just as I understood Ms. [1:35:43] Talbott's comment, [1:35:44] it would be changing this to 5 [1:35:46] years, so they have [1:35:47] to give a 5-year heads up [1:35:50] to terminate the agreement [1:35:52] at any time. It would be the [1:35:55] same as the previous provision [1:35:59] I was just at, which would be [1:36:09] 5 years [1:36:10] before really doesn't matter, [1:36:11] it's the same because it's 5 [1:36:12] years either way. And then as [1:36:13] far as the termination, [1:36:14] that would go from So 8 to 10 [1:36:15] years, right? That's, that's [1:36:16] what I understood Mrs. [1:36:17] Talbott's comment to be. [1:36:18] >> Okay, that's fine. [1:36:20] >> But Hunter, that means that [1:36:21] we move in and day 2 they tell [1:36:23] us they're giving us notice, [1:36:24] we only have 5 years. What [1:36:25] we're looking for is [1:36:26] to stay a minimum of 10 to [1:36:27] through the and I don't know [1:36:29] why anyone would disagree [1:36:31] with that. [1:36:32] >> So in that instance If they, [1:36:33] you know, if you approved it [1:36:35] today, they terminated [1:36:36] tomorrow, then the early [1:36:38] termination schedule would be [1:36:40] about at about 50%. So they'd [1:36:42] have to make a payment of [1:36:43] about $2 million, give or take, [1:36:46] if they were to do that. [1:36:49] >> I think what we are [1:36:50] discussing is having the [1:36:52] security [1:36:53] of knowing we're there [1:36:54] for a minimum of 10 years, [1:36:55] right, [1:36:57] before we can be removed. [1:36:58] At that point, [1:36:59] we've used the lifespan [1:37:01] of our turf and, you know, 50% [1:37:02] of our investment. [1:37:05] >> That probably would be more [1:37:06] of a structural amendment [1:37:08] because the way that, you know, [1:37:09] termination provisions are set [1:37:10] up now and stuff. I mean, [1:37:12] I could definitely rework that [1:37:13] here, but it's going [1:37:15] to take me a little bit [1:37:17] of time. [1:37:19] >> Okay. And I don't mean [1:37:20] to speak for everyone, but I [1:37:21] believe that's what I'm [1:37:22] hearing. [1:37:23] >> Yeah. 10 years. [1:37:25] >> That is, we'd like to have [1:37:26] an assurance that we make this [1:37:28] investment, [1:37:29] that we will not be terminated [1:37:31] before the minimum of 10 years, [1:37:34] even though we have a 40-year [1:37:36] thing. [1:37:40] >> Yeah. That's what I want [1:37:41] to see, guaranteed that no [1:37:44] matter as far as when they tell [1:37:47] us ahead of time, that's not [1:37:48] all that important. important. [1:37:52] I guess a couple of years, [1:37:54] you don't want to be 9 and a [1:37:55] half years and then somebody [1:37:56] comes and say, hey, you got [1:37:57] to get out, you know. [1:38:00] >> Okay, then what I would need [1:38:01] to know after [1:38:02] >> So I want to make a motion [1:38:04] to postpone our decision [1:38:05] on the floor. [1:38:10] >> Address the chair. What [1:38:12] motion are you seeking? [1:38:14] >> If we're gonna try and amend [1:38:16] this, I don't want to do this [1:38:17] on the I think that we should [1:38:19] all give our input and have [1:38:20] something different written. [1:38:22] And if that's what the board [1:38:23] members feel that they want [1:38:25] to do, then I guess we postpone [1:38:28] it again. I don't know, [1:38:35] but I tried not to. [1:38:39] >> Are you making a motion [1:38:41] to postpone? [1:38:42] >> I am. [1:38:43] >> That's a higher order [1:38:44] motion, so it needs [1:38:46] to be considered [1:38:48] before action. If you get a [1:38:49] second, that is. [1:38:51] >> Then I make that motion. [1:38:53] >> Is there a second? Is there [1:39:02] a second? [1:39:09] >> Then I'll second that so we [1:39:10] can have a conversation. [1:39:13] >> Okay, converse. [1:39:15] >> So discussion-wise, [1:39:17] my concern is that we're going [1:39:19] to try and fix what's a lengthy [1:39:22] multi-page agreement [1:39:25] with paragraphs that refer [1:39:26] to different things and overlap [1:39:28] in many ways, looking quickly [1:39:35] at a meeting And I have more [1:39:42] than 2 concerns. And so I just [1:39:48] don't feel comfortable from a [1:39:50] legal perspective deciding [1:39:52] on something that quickly. So [1:39:55] that's why I made the motion. [1:40:07] >> Any other discussion? [1:40:12] >> You're talking [1:40:13] about a postponement, but are [1:40:14] you suggesting that we air our [1:40:15] concerns here, [1:40:16] you go back and rewrite this, [1:40:17] and then we revisit it again, [1:40:18] and it won't happen [1:40:19] before their, their meeting [1:40:22] unless we have some sort of [1:40:24] emergency meeting? I understand [1:40:25] the time constraints. Is that [1:40:26] what we're talking about, [1:40:30] and is that possible? [1:40:32] >> Their next meeting is the [1:40:33] 7th, so yeah, I mean, it'd be [1:40:35] an exceedingly fast turnaround. [1:40:39] Yeah, I mean, as far as the [1:40:42] 10-year provision you're [1:40:44] talking about, that would be [1:40:46] that would change the structure [1:40:47] of the agreement and be a [1:40:49] little more substantive. I can [1:40:51] definitely do that tonight if [1:40:52] everyone's happy to sit [1:40:55] around and wait. But, [1:40:58] for what it's worth, [1:40:59] that wasn't included in the [1:41:00] previously board-approved [1:41:04] March agreement, so that would [1:41:06] be something new. [1:41:07] >> Just like the village keeps [1:41:09] coming back with new stuff, [1:41:14] not to mention the fact that [1:41:15] they want us to indemnify them [1:41:16] no matter what happens and [1:41:17] when. I mean, there's so much [1:41:19] in here that I find [1:41:21] problematic, and I just don't [1:41:27] see how nobody else thinks [1:41:32] that's a problem. And we agreed [1:41:34] at the last time we discussed [1:41:37] this that once we approved a [1:41:39] price, that we were going [1:41:42] to hold to that price. But this [1:41:43] new license agreement says even [1:41:45] after the price, [1:41:48] they can make changes. And [1:41:51] there's no inspection on their [1:41:54] part required when they're done [1:41:55] with the field. So if they have [1:41:57] a giant event like the [1:41:58] Founders Nautical Market and [1:41:59] something happens [1:42:01] to the field, [1:42:04] it's our problem. [1:42:07] >> And just, just to clarify, [1:42:08] based [1:42:09] on this license agreement, [1:42:10] just to clarify [1:42:12] on that point, There is [1:42:14] provisions [1:42:15] in there that if they, you [1:42:16] know, if either side uses a [1:42:17] field that doesn't comply [1:42:18] with the, you know, specs and [1:42:21] warranty, [1:42:22] that they're responsible [1:42:23] for that damage. And then as [1:42:25] far as the maintenance, it's [1:42:26] contemplated that the school [1:42:29] district is responsible [1:42:30] for year-round. So school [1:42:31] district always has its eyes [1:42:32] on it, [1:42:33] and then the village just pays [1:42:34] for the cost [1:42:35] of that maintenance during the [1:42:36] time that they have the field. [1:42:43] >> But who's inspecting it and [1:42:46] when? [1:42:47] >> Well, I mean, [1:42:52] whoever's doing maintenance [1:42:53] for the district. [1:42:54] >> So the district's going [1:42:55] to be on Founders Park property [1:42:56] year-round taking care [1:42:57] of the field? Yeah, that's what [1:42:59] it does right now. [1:43:00] >> That would be a question [1:43:01] for Mr. LaFere, but I'm not [1:43:04] sure how often maintenance [1:43:09] workers would be [1:43:10] out there doing [1:43:11] >> We don't do anything [1:43:12] on the field right now, is We [1:43:13] are in the process of taking [1:43:14] over the maintenance [1:43:16] of the field year-round [1:43:17] to have one team working [1:43:19] on it and then working [1:43:20] out compensation [1:43:21] with the village. [1:43:23] >> And price changes? What's [1:43:26] unreasonable and where is that [1:43:28] defined? [1:43:34] >> There's a provision in there [1:43:36] currently that says if they, [1:43:37] they make any changes [1:43:39] to the planes [1:43:40] in their ownership capacity, [1:43:41] that they're responsible [1:43:43] for that price increase, if [1:43:45] that's what you're referring [1:43:46] to. [1:43:50] >> Say that again. [1:43:52] >> Let me give me one second. [1:44:01] I'll pull it up here. [1:44:18] >> So it's this section here. I [1:44:21] can certainly read it [1:44:22] out if you'd like Yes. But it's [1:44:23] essentially saying that the [1:44:24] school board is responsible [1:44:26] for all costs related to the [1:44:28] construction and renovation [1:44:29] of the baseball field, except [1:44:33] in the event that the Village [1:44:34] in its property ownership [1:44:35] capacity objects and recommends [1:44:37] changes to the submittals, [1:44:39] which is the, you know, [1:44:41] design documents and what have [1:44:42] you, that the Village is [1:44:45] responsible for the costs, [1:44:46] fees, and expenses associated [1:44:47] And then what [1:44:48] about their denial [1:44:54] of our contractor? I mean, I [1:45:07] think the language is that it [1:45:08] can't be unreasonably withheld. [1:45:13] >> That's the unreasonable [1:45:14] part. [1:45:15] >> Yeah, I mean, I'm not aware [1:45:16] of anyone having issues [1:45:19] with the contractor, [1:45:21] but I will go [1:45:23] to the language. [1:45:28] >> And I thought they were [1:45:29] responsible. I had a discussion [1:45:30] with that they would be [1:45:35] responsible, for instance, [1:45:36] if the during the seafood [1:45:41] festival or whatever they had, [1:45:42] the nautical market, [1:45:44] that if they had [1:45:45] like a grease truck, you know, [1:45:47] somebody cooking and the grease [1:45:49] got on there, [1:45:50] that they would be responsible [1:45:51] for fixing that. [1:45:52] >> Yes, there's language [1:45:53] to that effect in there, [1:45:54] and I'll scroll down [1:45:56] with it if Mrs. Conn's done [1:45:59] with this section I have up [1:46:00] there now. [1:46:04] >> What are we on? [1:46:05] >> The contractor. [1:46:07] >> This is the contractor about [1:46:08] >> I know your understanding is [1:46:12] they have no problem, [1:46:13] but if they have no problem, [1:46:15] why is this paragraph [1:46:16] in the agreement? [1:46:19] >> It's just what they [1:46:20] requested. [1:46:21] >> Exactly. [1:46:41] >> Here's the provision you're [1:46:42] requesting, Mr. Dick. It's use [1:46:43] of artificial turf. Says, [1:46:45] licensor and licensee shall not [1:46:47] permit the baseball field [1:46:49] to be used in contravention to [1:46:50] any applicable specifications, [1:46:52] warranties, and, or manufacturer [1:46:54] instructions. [1:46:58] And the parties shall be [1:46:59] solely responsible [1:47:00] for all damage caused [1:47:07] by such prohibited use, and [1:47:08] that licensees shall provide [1:47:09] licensor with a copy of the [1:47:11] applicable specifications, [1:47:12] warranties, and/or manufacturer [1:47:13] instructions. [1:47:14] >> So we covered on a couple [1:47:15] of these points already. As far [1:47:16] as the contractor, they [1:47:17] to me, [1:47:18] I don't believe they're going [1:47:19] to, you know, say that our [1:47:20] contractor is no good. They [1:47:22] have to have a real No solid [1:47:23] reason. [1:47:25] >> Then why have it in there? [1:47:26] >> Well, you know, they wanted [1:47:28] it there. I'm not going [1:47:29] to fight over it. [1:47:31] >> They're not going [1:47:32] to be unreasonable, [1:47:33] and they're fine [1:47:34] with our contractor. We don't [1:47:35] need it in the agreement. And [1:47:36] then once we pass this, [1:47:38] we still have to come up [1:47:40] with a use agreement. [1:47:45] >> Well, to me, the use [1:47:47] agreement is a calendar. [1:47:48] >> It's my understanding [1:47:51] >> If it were a calendar, then [1:47:52] we wouldn't need it because [1:47:54] there's a calendar in here. We [1:47:55] get it from January to [1:47:56] >> No, the use agreement is [1:47:58] essentially a calendar. I would [1:48:00] hope that the baseball people [1:48:01] would nod their head if that is [1:48:02] the case. It's a calendar [1:48:04] of what year, what the date [1:48:05] that's that the practice [1:48:11] starts, which days we have [1:48:12] games, when we're expecting [1:48:14] to be finished [1:48:16] with the season. That is what [1:48:17] the use agreement [1:48:18] in the past has been. [1:48:22] >> Yes, Hunter, can we get back [1:48:27] to the contractor? Yeah, I'm [1:48:29] sorry, I'm sorry, no, finish. [1:48:31] Just thinking about that, the [1:48:32] contractor is there some is [1:48:33] there a deadline? Like, if they [1:48:35] have an issue [1:48:36] with our contractor, [1:48:37] what is the time frame [1:48:38] on that? At what point? [1:48:40] Because if we don't get moving [1:48:41] on that shortly, we'll never [1:48:42] make a deadline anyway. They [1:48:45] have 60 days. We've already [1:48:47] >> We have, right? The, yeah, [1:48:52] so it, it mainly talks about [1:48:54] 60 days as for the periods [1:48:56] for approval by the village. [1:49:00] You know, I spoke with the [1:49:01] village's attorney and, you [1:49:02] know, [1:49:03] let them know that time is of [1:49:04] the essence as far as that [1:49:05] goes. And I spoke with Pat [1:49:07] as well so that if If this were [1:49:08] to be approved tonight, [1:49:09] we would get those submittals [1:49:10] over to the village so that [1:49:12] they could hopefully approve [1:49:13] any and all [1:49:14] of their submittals by the [1:49:16] July meeting. [1:49:17] >> Do you have any idea why [1:49:18] that stipulation is [1:49:19] in there? I mean, the [1:49:21] contractor that was chosen is [1:49:22] licensed, bonded, [1:49:23] has built an airport and many, [1:49:24] many other things, [1:49:25] has insurance. What would be a [1:49:27] reasonable objection? [1:49:29] >> I mean, I think this is a, [1:49:30] you know, a lot is a creature [1:49:33] of what this original agreement [1:49:34] was back then. [1:49:35] >> Let's take it out. [1:49:36] >> Remove it. Let's remove it. [1:49:39] >> The peanut gallery [1:49:40] over here. All right, [1:49:42] remove that. Let's get the 10 [1:49:43] years in. We don't even need [1:49:44] to come up with something. [1:49:45] Let's just remove the whole [1:49:46] paragraph. [1:49:49] >> I think we do have a motion [1:49:50] to postpone first, so. That's [1:49:52] true. [1:49:53] >> That is true. Okay. Again, [1:49:55] I'm happy to [1:49:56] >> I'm happy to amend all that. [1:49:57] >> Discussion [1:49:59] on the motion I get a dispose [1:50:01] of the motion to postpone [1:50:02] unless there's more discussion [1:50:03] on the motion [1:50:04] to postpone. [1:50:05] >> Is there any further [1:50:06] discussion? [1:50:07] >> Call the roll. [1:50:11] >> What are we voting on? [1:50:12] >> Motion to postpone. [1:50:15] >> [CALLING ROLL] [1:50:29] >> Motion. [1:50:30] >> So the motion fails. [1:50:32] >> All right, let's get back [1:50:33] to the motion that okay, that [1:50:35] with the adjustments. And you [1:50:38] want to add you want to add [1:50:41] removing the contract clause [1:50:43] where they have the right [1:50:44] to [1:50:47] >> I want to amend my original [1:50:48] motion to Whatever it was, to [1:50:50] include whatever paragraph. [1:50:52] >> Why don't we do this? [1:50:54] Wait, wait. Why don't we do [1:50:58] this? Go through it all. Go [1:50:59] through it all. No. Okay. And [1:51:02] when you do the edits [1:51:07] on the fly like this, go [1:51:08] through it all and then move [1:51:10] to adopt it as edited. That's [1:51:11] the cleanest way. [1:51:12] >> We've addressed a lot [1:51:13] of your issues, right? [1:51:14] >> Do all your changes. My [1:51:15] original. [1:51:16] >> Then I need to withdraw my [1:51:17] amendment. Yes. Motion and and. [1:51:18] So my new motion is to make [1:51:21] edits here as best as we can [1:51:22] and And then move forward [1:51:24] with that to be adopted. And [1:51:25] readopt the amended motion. [1:51:30] >> So withdraw your prior [1:51:31] motion. [1:51:32] >> I'd like to withdraw my [1:51:33] prior motion. [1:51:34] >> And whoever seconded, [1:51:35] withdraw your second. [1:51:36] >> I withdraw my second. [1:51:38] >> And then I would like [1:51:40] to make a motion to [1:51:41] >> Wait, wait, wait. Don't you [1:51:42] want to go through So you want [1:51:43] to go through it first, [1:51:44] make all your changes, [1:51:45] and then move [1:51:47] to adopt it as amended? [1:51:48] >> Yes. So the contract [1:51:49] >> Yeah, yeah. Okay, so go [1:51:50] through your changes now. [1:51:51] >> Get rid [1:51:52] of that one where they have [1:51:54] to approve the contract. [1:51:55] >> What? [1:51:57] >> Do, do we want to start [1:51:58] at the beginning and work [1:51:59] through it, or do you want me [1:52:00] to just jump around as you guys [1:52:01] point something out? [1:52:02] >> I would like to start [1:52:04] at the beginning and work [1:52:05] through so we don't miss [1:52:06] anything. [1:52:07] >> Certainly, certainly. [1:52:22] >> You know, I'm feeling the [1:52:23] room and we all kind [1:52:25] of feel it that way too. We [1:52:26] have no idea what provisions [1:52:28] we're talking about now. [1:52:34] >> That's why we're here. [1:52:35] >> I'm feeling the room. We [1:52:37] have no idea because we have [1:52:39] heard nothing about whether [1:52:40] these things would be approved [1:52:42] or not when we have presented [1:52:43] to you guys before. In fact, [1:52:45] we've heard that they are that [1:52:46] no one is interested [1:52:48] in improving it. And we heard [1:52:50] tonight from public speakers [1:52:53] that public speakers didn't [1:52:55] want to approve this. So we're [1:52:57] going to try [1:52:59] to improve this. I'm sorry. So [1:53:00] it is agreeable to everyone [1:53:02] on our side with an idea that [1:53:03] we will send that to the [1:53:05] village and see what parts they [1:53:06] will are willing to approve. [1:53:09] And if there are sticking [1:53:11] points on some parts, [1:53:13] then we'll come back [1:53:16] in an agenda meeting [1:53:23] with both groups to discuss [1:53:25] those sticking points. The [1:53:27] parts we agree on, [1:53:28] we'll just agree on. [1:53:37] >> Are there any proposed [1:53:38] changes [1:53:39] to the recital section? [1:53:41] >> No. [1:53:44] >> Okay, hearing none, on [1:53:49] to paragraph 1, grant of [1:53:51] license and use. I imagine the [1:53:54] first one we have is [1:54:04] >> or sorry, I wish I could see [1:54:05] this as a single page. [1:54:14] >> There we go. Okay. [1:54:15] >> Anything for paragraph 1, [1:54:17] grant of license and use? [1:54:20] >> I guess that's my question. [1:54:22] It states there its hours [1:54:23] from January 1st to May 31st. [1:54:25] So what's the use agreement, [1:54:28] if that is an agreement [1:54:33] for the use of the baseball [1:54:34] field? [1:54:39] >> I believe it's really just a [1:54:40] calendar. I think this is as I [1:54:41] understand it, [1:54:42] this is essentially Okay. Am I [1:54:44] good to move [1:54:53] to the next section? [1:54:54] >> Yes. [1:54:56] >> Okay. On [1:54:57] to the next section, [1:55:01] which is number 2, license fee. [1:55:02] I don't imagine that there's [1:55:07] any changes there. Okay. On [1:55:08] to Section 3 term, we have the [1:55:11] initial use term and renewal [1:55:13] options. [1:55:18] >> Well, this is a part I want [1:55:19] to look at. [1:55:23] >> Yeah, so again, this is [1:55:24] really just saying that it's a [1:55:26] 20-year initial period starting [1:55:29] on July 7th with 2 automatic [1:55:32] renewals for 10 years each. [1:55:34] And it just gives the village [1:55:37] the option to, just basically [1:55:39] rescind the renewal on 3 years' [1:55:45] notice. Really, it's, [1:55:47] it's kind [1:55:49] of just extra language. The, [1:55:50] the point I would like to get [1:55:54] across here is that the [1:55:56] termination provision is really [1:55:57] the main one to look at, and [1:55:59] that is the one that just says [1:56:00] they can terminate at any time [1:56:01] on 3 years' notice. [1:56:04] >> Yeah, the initial use term [1:56:05] is fine. I don't like the [1:56:07] language regarding provided in [1:56:13] the other paragraphs because [1:56:14] I'm not happy [1:56:16] with the other paragraphs. So [1:56:17] that's my only issue [1:56:18] with the initial use term. [1:56:20] Like, it's referencing the [1:56:21] other paragraphs that everybody [1:56:22] on the board wants [1:56:23] to change. [1:56:25] >> The other paragraph. [1:56:31] >> So how about this? How, how [1:56:34] many years advance notice would [1:56:36] this board like either party [1:56:38] to be required [1:56:39] to provide? I believe 5 was [1:56:43] what you guys approved in [1:56:44] March, just [1:56:45] for reference. [1:56:47] >> 5 years notice [1:56:49] after the 10-year mark, [1:56:51] right? We have to have 10 [1:56:53] years. I don't care that [1:56:54] You're mixing the notice [1:56:56] with the time. We have to get [1:56:59] 10 years. Now, if they're going [1:57:02] to throw us out, [1:57:05] I don't care if it's 1 or 2 [1:57:06] years. It's got to well, [1:57:07] it's got [1:57:09] to be probably more than a [1:57:11] year. But why would they tell [1:57:13] us if we sign the thing today [1:57:15] and we're starting on 10 years, [1:57:16] do you really think that they [1:57:18] would come [1:57:19] to us the next year and say, [1:57:21] we want you out. And so whether [1:57:24] it's 5 years, I mean, 5 years, [1:57:26] if it's 5 years, it's going to [1:57:28] be a different council that [1:57:30] said that'll be sitting when, [1:57:32] when the 5 years is up and they [1:57:33] might change their mind. It's [1:57:35] just as long as we have 10 [1:57:37] years, I don't care how long [1:57:38] they give us to tell us, [1:57:39] as long as we have 10 Right. [1:57:41] In there, that they cannot take [1:57:43] us out. [1:57:53] >> Okay. That would probably be [1:57:54] addressed [1:57:55] in the termination provision, [1:57:56] but again right. [1:57:57] >> That's where it's going [1:57:59] to be, not here. [1:58:02] >> Right. Right. [1:58:05] But just as far as, you know, [1:58:06] assuming the, you know, 10 [1:58:08] years passes without a hitch, [1:58:09] what do we want [1:58:11] for the advance notice? Are you [1:58:13] guys okay with 3 years, [1:58:14] or do you want it to be 5 [1:58:15] years? [1:58:16] >> I think we need 5 years to [1:58:17] build a baseball field [1:58:18] somewhere else. [1:58:19] >> Yeah. The ILA says what? [1:58:20] The original this I thought we [1:58:22] were changing from 5 to 3 [1:58:24] to make it to align it [1:58:25] to the original ILA. Is that is [1:58:28] my memory incorrect? [1:58:31] >> Well, the license agreement [1:58:32] that the village passed in [1:58:34] January was 2 years, and then [1:58:39] This board went to 5 years in [1:58:40] the version that you guys [1:58:42] passed in March, so I think 3 [1:58:44] years is kind of just a middle [1:58:45] ground. [1:58:48] >> I think 3 is okay. [1:58:50] >> We need 5 years to rebuild [1:58:51] and find another property. [1:58:52] >> So we want 5 years. We want [1:58:54] it at 5. 5 years' notice. [1:59:02] >> 60 months. [1:59:03] >> If you do the math. [1:59:21] >> Which means if we're here [1:59:23] 10 years and at that the end [1:59:26] of 10 years they say we want [1:59:27] you out, we have another 5 [1:59:28] years. [1:59:30] >> Right. [1:59:33] >> But they cannot so if they [1:59:34] wanted to throw us [1:59:36] out the earliest possible, [1:59:37] they would have to, 5 years [1:59:39] into it, say to us, [1:59:41] we want you out in 5 years. [1:59:42] >> Right? That's the dirt. [1:59:44] That's what I want, [1:59:46] that we are guaranteed 10 [1:59:47] years. [1:59:49] >> I mean, if you're reading [1:59:50] the law [1:59:52] The initial term is 20 [1:59:53] years. [1:59:54] >> Yeah, but we have to renew [1:59:56] it. [1:59:57] >> Right. I imagine the way I [1:59:58] imagine that is just revising [1:59:59] the termination provision, [2:00:00] just putting language in there [2:00:01] that you know says something [2:00:02] to the effect of [2:00:04] after a period of ten years, [2:00:05] the parties can terminate at [2:00:07] any time upon five years [2:00:09] advance notice. Basically, [2:00:11] that's that's what I imagine we [2:00:13] will do when we get [2:00:14] to that section. [2:00:15] >> I'd love to get [2:00:16] to twenty years, but whatever [2:00:18] somebody's got something up [2:00:19] their sleeve that they want [2:00:20] to do. [2:00:21] >> This section isn't really [2:00:22] where you're focused. This [2:00:23] section here, if you read it. [2:00:24] there it's a 20-year term that [2:00:25] can be terminated with 36 [2:00:27] months' notice. So it says [2:00:28] license not material upon the [2:00:29] expiration [2:00:31] of the initial period, [2:00:34] which is 20 years, it should be [2:00:35] automatically extended upon the [2:00:36] same terms and conditions [2:00:37] for up to 2 additional 10-year [2:00:38] periods unless the licensor [2:00:39] delivers written notice 5 years [2:00:41] in advance. [2:00:43] So what that says to me, [2:00:45] and I'm trying to make sure I'm [2:00:46] reading it right, Is the 20 [2:00:48] years is ours. [2:00:49] >> But they could throw us out. [2:00:51] >> They could give you a [2:00:52] termination. [2:00:54] >> Well, that's a different [2:00:55] section. [2:00:56] >> Get rid of that. [2:00:57] >> This section says 20 years [2:00:58] is ours, provided they give us [2:00:59] 36 months or 60 months notice, [2:01:00] whatever. So the initial term [2:01:01] is 20 years. The real problem [2:01:02] is the termination section, [2:01:03] correct? [2:01:05] >> Yes. [2:01:06] >> Correct. [2:01:07] >> Okay, so [2:01:08] >> But we do want the 60 months [2:01:09] in the renewal. [2:01:11] >> Fine. [2:01:12] >> Right. [2:01:13] >> But your initial period is [2:01:14] 20 years. [2:01:15] >> Right. [2:01:17] >> But whenever they don't [2:01:18] renew, we still have to find [2:01:19] and build another baseball [2:01:20] field, and we need 5 years [2:01:21] for that. So that would be 60 [2:01:23] months. [2:01:26] >> If the term with this 20 [2:01:27] years, they could still the way [2:01:28] it is written now, [2:01:29] they could throw us out. [2:01:30] >> That's, not this section. [2:01:32] >> The termination section is [2:01:33] where you want [2:01:35] to focus on. [2:01:36] >> For this section, [2:01:37] I think the 3 years is okay. [2:01:38] >> 20 years, 5 years notice. [2:01:39] And the 5 years' notice applies [2:01:40] to the not initial term. It [2:01:42] applies to the 2nd and 3rd [2:01:43] renewals. [2:01:44] >> Right, exactly. [2:01:45] >> So your issue is going [2:01:46] to come [2:01:47] at the termination session, not [2:01:48] here. [2:01:49] >> I think the fee renewal [2:01:50] options, in my opinion, [2:01:51] it should be 60 months. [2:01:53] >> Yeah. I think we this is [2:01:59] like the one thing that we have [2:02:03] Compromised on [2:02:05] through negotiations is the 5 [2:02:09] and the 2, and we are going [2:02:11] back to 5, so we are sort of [2:02:12] doing the same thing that we [2:02:14] were saying was happening [2:02:16] before. So if that is a [2:02:19] sticking point, you know, [2:02:21] I mean [2:02:22] >> It is a sticking point for [2:02:25] me because we have been what is [2:02:27] essentially bargaining [2:02:28] against ourselves. We keep [2:02:29] giving them new options and new [2:02:30] proposals. [2:02:37] >> if I may take a little straw [2:02:40] poll. If it's 10 years initial [2:02:42] guaranteed, what is each [2:02:45] of yours' vote [2:02:46] on a 3-year notice [2:02:48] of termination? [2:02:50] >> This is 20 years initial [2:02:51] guarantee, right? [2:02:53] >> Right. [2:02:54] >> You guys suggested 10. [2:02:56] >> Okay. [2:02:58] >> Again, just stick with me [2:02:59] on the concept, [2:03:00] not the language for now, [2:03:02] for purposes of this. So if you [2:03:04] get it in there that you have [2:03:05] 10 years guaranteed use [2:03:07] of the field, how much advance [2:03:09] notice do you want [2:03:11] after that? What is everybody [2:03:12] what's it whether it's 3 or 5? [2:03:14] >> I'm at 5 simply because [2:03:15] there's no way for us [2:03:16] to build a new baseball field [2:03:17] without 5 years. That's the [2:03:19] only reason I'm at 5. [2:03:25] >> You're at 5, you bet. [2:03:26] >> I'll go with 5. Leave it [2:03:28] at 5. [2:03:30] >> Ok. All right. [2:03:32] >> Well, I think we can move [2:03:33] on to the next section then, [2:03:35] which is construction and [2:03:36] renovation of improvements. [2:03:38] Any suggested edits as far as A [2:03:40] or B, since they are what fit [2:03:42] on the screen right now? [2:03:45] >> So one of the things I've [2:03:53] been hearing is [2:03:54] about bleachers. So I guess my [2:03:58] question is, are we fine just [2:04:00] not adding bleachers [2:04:04] to the baseball field? [2:04:07] >> My understanding is that [2:04:09] bleachers aren't a part [2:04:10] of this phase of construction. [2:04:11] >> I understand that, but one [2:04:14] of the Ron, don't be rude, [2:04:16] please. You said bleachers were [2:04:21] one of the big problems, so now [2:04:23] bleachers are no longer an [2:04:25] issue on the field? [2:04:29] >> I said the placement [2:04:30] of the bleachers in the plan [2:04:31] with the stadium were an issue. [2:04:33] >> So it's not [2:04:34] about the safety or the number [2:04:35] of bleachers that are currently [2:04:36] there? [2:04:40] >> Once we my understanding is [2:04:41] once we build bleachers, [2:04:44] we have to build bathrooms. [2:04:47] That's what happened with [2:04:48] Tommy Roberts. So if we leave [2:04:49] the bleachers, [2:04:51] we can't do the bleachers [2:04:52] without the bathroom. So it [2:04:53] makes sense for the bleachers [2:04:55] to come [2:04:56] in as the amenities later. [2:04:58] >> Okay. Move on. [2:05:07] >> How about 4C? [2:05:17] >> Okay. Going back [2:05:19] to improvements, [2:05:21] we are solely responsible for [2:05:23] and shall have sole discretion [2:05:25] to determine when the [2:05:28] improvements are in need [2:05:29] of modification, renovation, [2:05:30] and, or replacement. So that is [2:05:31] not a village option? Because [2:05:34] I'm fine with that. [2:05:36] >> That's correct. [2:05:41] >> Okay. Move on. [2:05:42] >> I don't [2:05:44] >> I just, you know, [2:05:45] logistically, because this is a [2:05:46] narrowed-down license agreement [2:05:47] to just this baseball field and [2:05:48] because we have a time [2:05:50] constraint, I, you know, [2:05:56] I wonder if we should go from [2:05:57] If it's reasonable to go from [2:05:59] 60 to 30 days so that we can [2:06:01] get the plan the approvals done [2:06:03] in a timely manner. [2:06:09] >> You know what, [2:06:10] you don't need to put it [2:06:11] in there. [2:06:12] >> Okay. We'll just encourage [2:06:13] Everybody wants things done as [2:06:14] fast as possible. [2:06:15] >> Okay. That's fine. I don't [2:06:17] think we need [2:06:18] to write that out. [2:06:20] >> Okay. Contractor, I believe [2:06:22] I believe the request was [2:06:24] to delete that section. [2:06:26] >> Is that correct? Yep. Get [2:06:28] rid of it. You can do that [2:06:32] right now with the magic. [2:06:38] >> Track changes. [2:06:41] >> I sure am, Pat. So has the [2:06:44] village already had their [2:06:47] required Or optional right [2:06:50] to review the design [2:06:51] in an open public meeting. [2:06:53] Have they done that already? [2:06:57] >> I do not personally know [2:06:58] that. [2:07:02] >> That's their thing. [2:07:03] >> Village manager is here. [2:07:07] Did you already have an open [2:07:08] meeting on the design? [2:07:10] >> I'm asking. [2:07:12] >> Is he not allowed to talk, [2:07:14] if I may ask? [2:07:16] >> The chair has [2:07:17] to recognize him. [2:07:22] >> Yeah, I will recognize Ron [2:07:23] Saunders, Village Manager, [2:07:24] but let's keep that [2:07:26] to a minimum. Go ahead, Ron. [2:07:30] >> Just asking the one [2:07:31] question. [2:07:37] >> What was the question? [2:07:39] >> In Paragraph C, [2:07:41] approved plans, there's a [2:07:43] paragraph, second paragraph, [2:07:45] saying that the village shall [2:07:46] at its sole option have the [2:07:47] right to review the designs at [2:07:49] an open public meeting or [2:07:50] workshop and [2:07:51] to solicit community input [2:07:54] in the designs. Has that been [2:07:56] done? Because that affects [2:07:57] whether or not I'm going to [2:08:00] approve the GMP. [2:08:02] >> I believe this language was [2:08:03] put [2:08:04] in there when we were looking [2:08:05] at the concession building. [2:08:07] Now that the building is no [2:08:08] longer in consideration, I [2:08:10] don't think that's applicable. [2:08:11] Our building officials have [2:08:13] already been meeting [2:08:15] with the contractor. And [2:08:16] by the way, just [2:08:17] for the record, [2:08:18] we have no objection to [2:08:19] Keystar. I assume that's the [2:08:20] contractor you're talking [2:08:21] about. We have no problem [2:08:22] with Keystar, and we've been [2:08:23] working with them already. I've [2:08:24] already we've already kind [2:08:25] of pre-approved the plans for [2:08:26] the field and the fence and the [2:08:28] dugout. I think this language [2:08:30] is more applicable to The [2:08:31] building where we want [2:08:32] to input. We don't need the [2:08:33] building we don't need input [2:08:34] on the field. So if you take [2:08:35] out the public meeting, [2:08:37] I think we would be fine [2:08:38] with that. [2:08:40] >> Let's remove those [2:08:41] paragraphs. [2:08:42] >> Thank you, Ron. [2:09:21] >> Is that consistent with what [2:09:22] you're we're requesting? [2:09:26] >> Removal of the paragraph [2:09:27] starting [2:09:28] with the word prior. [2:09:37] >> I think you can get rid [2:09:38] of the whole paragraph. [2:09:39] >> Right. [2:09:56] >> Anything for performance or [2:09:57] construction liens? [2:10:00] >> Just a quick question. [2:10:01] We've already noticed them [2:10:02] with Keystar. That's taken [2:10:03] place, so we've met paragraph [2:10:07] D. [2:10:11] >> D is deleted. [2:10:12] >> Okay, so that's the one we [2:10:13] took out. [2:10:14] >> Yep. [2:10:20] >> Right. Okay. Performance. [2:10:22] So everything's 60 days, but [2:10:32] are we hoping or assuming that [2:10:33] it won't take 60 days? We're [2:10:34] just giving them 60 days [2:10:36] for everything? Because 2 [2:10:39] months, 2 months, 2 months, 2 [2:10:41] months, and wear it next year [2:10:43] for the baseball field? [2:10:47] >> You know, quite frankly, [2:10:50] the village attorney I met [2:10:51] with on this was not their [2:10:53] usual attorney, John Quick. It [2:10:55] was a different one. So I don't [2:10:57] know how in tune they were [2:10:59] with what was going on. They [2:11:00] were insistent [2:11:01] on this language. But, you [2:11:02] know, I think, I think it's [2:11:05] just good faith that everyone's [2:11:06] moving as fast as possible [2:11:08] on this. [2:11:09] >> Okay. [2:11:17] >> So let's go to the early [2:11:18] termination payment. [2:11:24] >> Aye. [2:11:25] >> Okay. [2:11:26] >> Everybody's good [2:11:28] with standards [2:11:29] of construction and comply with [2:11:30] applicable law? [2:11:31] >> I am. [2:11:34] >> Anybody else? [2:11:36] >> Everybody's fine. [2:11:38] >> Okay. Early termination [2:11:39] payment. [2:11:44] >> This one you got [2:11:46] to write correct. [2:11:51] >> We're going to need an [2:11:53] amortization amount based [2:11:58] on different things. If we're [2:11:59] going to do the turf field [2:12:01] to the 10 years that it's [2:12:02] warranted for, because the [2:12:04] other buildings have much [2:12:05] longer lives. And this one says [2:12:15] 8 years. It doesn't even do the [2:12:16] life [2:12:17] of the baseball field. [2:12:22] >> Right. [2:12:29] >> Okay, so what is the period [2:12:31] of years you would like to go [2:12:32] off of? [2:12:33] >> Well, that's what I'm [2:12:35] saying. 10 years is fine [2:12:36] for me for the turf field, [2:12:37] but it shouldn't necessarily be [2:12:38] for the other improvements 10 [2:12:40] years. Or if they want to make [2:12:42] it easy and make it one number, [2:12:43] then we need to figure [2:12:45] out what the life [2:12:46] of the fencing, the dugout, and [2:12:47] all the improvements are. [2:12:50] >> Well, we can leave that [2:12:52] at the 20 years. [2:12:53] >> Okay. [2:13:03] >> So this is going to 10 [2:13:04] years? [2:13:06] >> 20. [2:13:07] >> 20. [2:13:37] >> Okay. So is that kind of [2:13:39] like a buyout provision? So [2:13:41] then [2:13:42] >> When they own all [2:13:43] of our improvements, it [2:13:45] wouldn't matter because then [2:13:46] they've essentially bought them [2:13:47] from us? Because J [2:13:53] Improvements says they get [2:13:54] to keep and own everything. [2:13:59] And I don't have a problem [2:14:00] with that as long as [2:14:01] >> Right. [2:14:02] >> That's how it always was. I [2:14:06] mean, this the concept of this [2:14:08] early termination period, The [2:14:10] payment was really just [2:14:11] to ensure use of the field [2:14:13] for a certain amount [2:14:14] of time and, you know, [2:14:16] disincentivize. [2:14:18] >> So you'll fix Exhibit A [2:14:20] according [2:14:21] to the 20-year decision [2:14:22] by the board? [2:14:24] >> Yeah, I'll do that [2:14:25] at the end. That'll take me a [2:14:26] few more minutes. [2:14:28] But are we good to move on [2:14:30] from here? [2:14:31] >> Yep. [2:14:37] >> Improvements, ADA, access [2:14:38] for inspection. Any, any [2:14:41] comments? [2:14:43] >> Let me just quickly read the [2:14:47] access for inspection. So what [2:15:15] exactly are we indemnifying the [2:15:16] village for in that paragraph? [2:15:36] >> Basically, in the event [2:15:38] hazardous substances are [2:15:39] discovered I think it's [2:15:47] basically implying that in the [2:15:48] event you start digging up [2:15:49] stuff and it's, you know, [2:15:51] hazardous or something, that, [2:15:52] you know, You're responsible [2:15:54] for dealing [2:15:56] with that hazard. [2:15:58] >> So if hazard conditions [2:15:59] currently exist at Founders [2:16:00] Park, we're responsible [2:16:02] for paying [2:16:04] for any problems that arise [2:16:05] from those hazardous conditions [2:16:06] that are preexisting? [2:16:09] >> Well, I mean, [2:16:10] the way I read it is it's, it's [2:16:11] saying basically if you [2:16:13] discover it, you're not, [2:16:14] you're not obligated [2:16:16] to remove it, but whatever you [2:16:18] did disturb or partially [2:16:20] excavate, you got [2:16:22] to deal with, right? And, you [2:16:24] know, part of what was in here [2:16:26] was a requirement that the [2:16:29] school board does a Phase 1 [2:16:31] environmental study prior to [2:16:32] commencing construction. I [2:16:34] received direction [2:16:35] to remove that. So, you know, [2:16:37] that would [2:16:38] >> So is nobody doing the [2:16:40] environmental study? [2:16:41] >> Not to my knowledge, [2:16:43] no. [2:16:45] >> Well, then we should be [2:16:47] splitting the cost [2:16:48] of any hazardous conditions at [2:16:49] the very least. [2:16:52] >> I think they own them, [2:16:55] not us. They own them, [2:16:56] not us. [2:16:57] >> That's not what this says, [2:16:59] though. This says the licensee. [2:17:00] That's us. [2:17:08] >> So it's indemnification. [2:17:10] For all costs relating [2:17:12] to inspections in connection [2:17:14] with the property. [2:17:16] >> Licensee hereby indemnifies [2:17:17] and holds the licensor [2:17:18] harmless. If licensee discovers [2:17:21] hazardous substance as a result [2:17:34] of inspection, blah, blah, [2:17:38] blah, then the licensee shall [2:17:43] also be responsible [2:17:44] for the removal, remediation, [2:17:45] disposal, et cetera, [2:17:46] et cetera. [2:17:51] >> Right. [2:17:54] >> So, before they do [2:17:55] construction, [2:17:58] they're going [2:17:59] to test the soil, right? [2:18:00] >> No. [2:18:01] >> No. [2:18:02] >> That was a that was a [2:18:03] provision. I thought there was [2:18:05] an environmental study there [2:18:06] was some sort of an [2:18:08] environmental inspection that [2:18:10] had to be done. [2:18:13] >> That's correct. There was [2:18:15] >> What does that do then? [2:18:16] >> At the end [2:18:18] of this sentence, it did say [2:18:19] that, you know, licensee, [2:18:20] the school board, will do a [2:18:21] Phase 1 environmental study [2:18:22] prior [2:18:23] to commencing construction. [2:18:24] >> Right. [2:18:25] >> I received a request [2:18:26] to delete that provision. If [2:18:27] you guys want [2:18:28] to add it back in, The village [2:18:29] had requested that provision be [2:18:30] included, so [2:18:32] >> Well, I mean, [2:18:34] if it should be inspected, [2:18:35] and if there's something wrong, [2:18:37] well, that can put the squash [2:18:39] on the whole thing. I mean, [2:18:40] if there's something wrong [2:18:41] with the ground, I mean, [2:18:44] nothing's going [2:18:45] to happen afterwards. I mean, [2:18:48] you know, I don't want [2:18:49] to see us, you know, doing the [2:18:51] job and then somebody comes [2:18:53] along and checks the soil and [2:18:55] says there's oil here or [2:18:57] something. I mean, the my [2:18:58] understanding, I thought the [2:19:00] environmental study would check [2:19:01] that because what else is there [2:19:02] to check other than the ground? [2:19:04] >> Right. I don't personally [2:19:06] have any issue [2:19:07] with it being included. The [2:19:08] only thing I would check maybe [2:19:10] is how that may affect the [2:19:12] timing of things. Pat, if you [2:19:14] want to speak to that [2:19:15] at all. [2:19:18] >> Well, we would get it done, [2:19:19] you know, Fine. We'll just do [2:19:20] it. I mean, [2:19:21] do the environmental study. If [2:19:23] there's something wrong, [2:19:25] we're not going [2:19:26] to do anything there. [2:19:27] >> So we requested [2:19:29] to have the Phase I removed. [2:19:30] We typically only do Phase I [2:19:31] any environmental site [2:19:32] assessments at locations where [2:19:34] we know we have contamination. [2:19:36] We have no indication [2:19:37] of any contamination at [2:19:39] Founders Park. So we asked [2:19:40] for it to be removed [2:19:43] in the interest of time. [2:19:46] >> So let's take [2:19:47] out the power line. [2:19:48] >> Indemnification paragraph, [2:19:49] then. I agree. [2:19:50] >> Yeah, then take it out. I [2:19:51] mean, if you don't want [2:19:52] to do it, [2:19:53] then take it out. [2:19:54] >> Yep. [2:19:55] >> Take it out. [2:19:56] >> Sounds good. [2:20:27] >> All right. [2:20:33] >> Notices of commencement, [2:20:34] cost [2:20:35] of design and construction, [2:20:36] governmental approval, [2:20:37] joiner. [2:20:38] >> I'm all the way on insurance [2:20:39] requirements [2:20:41] for construction contracts. [2:20:51] >> Anybody have anything for [2:20:52] Section 5? [2:20:53] >> Nope. Nope. [2:20:55] >> I don't think anybody's [2:20:56] going to have anything [2:20:57] but me. [2:21:13] >> Any comments for Section [2:21:14] 6, Compliance with [2:21:15] Governmental Procedures? [2:21:16] >> No. I'm on [2:21:18] >> Move on. Maintenance of [2:21:20] Improvements, which is 8. [2:21:23] >> Okay, it's up there. [2:21:38] >> So here's my issue [2:21:39] with maintenance [2:21:40] of improvements. We're [2:21:43] maintaining it even when it's [2:21:44] in village control, [2:21:47] so we're paying our people. [2:21:52] How's that working? [2:21:54] >> Yeah, so the school district [2:21:55] maintains the field year-round. [2:21:56] And for the, you know, period [2:21:57] of time that the village has [2:21:58] use of the field, they pay [2:21:59] for the cost of that, [2:22:00] the maintenance that occurs [2:22:02] during that period [2:22:03] of time. [2:22:04] >> So they'll pay some fee [2:22:05] to us [2:22:06] for our maintenance people [2:22:08] to take care of it? [2:22:09] >> Correct. [2:22:11] >> Okay, move on. [2:22:19] >> And same thing, utilities, [2:22:20] only for the period [2:22:22] in which we're Yeah, I mean, [2:22:23] it's mentioned in the [2:22:25] maintenance and improvement [2:22:29] section, but it, you know, says [2:22:32] it includes utility consumption [2:22:34] in that kind [2:22:36] of same general category. [2:22:38] >> Thank you. [2:22:42] Going down to 11. [2:22:51] >> All right, [2:22:52] it's up there. [2:23:05] >> So no matter when the damage [2:23:07] occurs, [2:23:08] it's our responsibility [2:23:10] to fix it in these minor and [2:23:12] major damage paragraphs? [2:23:16] >> Right. [2:23:18] The thought was [2:23:19] to just keep it consistent with [2:23:20] the maintenance where we would, [2:23:21] you know, deal [2:23:23] with restoring the property, [2:23:24] removing debris, [2:23:26] what have you. But the cost is [2:23:27] just basically equally split [2:23:28] for anything not covered [2:23:29] by insurance because, you know, [2:23:31] both the parties would have [2:23:32] >> And which paragraph [2:23:34] references that we're splitting [2:23:40] that? [2:23:41] >> The second sentence in 11. [2:23:42] It says, licensor and licensee [2:23:43] shall bear [2:23:47] >> Equally bear the cost. [2:23:48] >> Okay, sorry, [2:23:49] I missed that. That's why I [2:23:51] don't like doing it quickly. [2:23:52] It's okay. All right, [2:23:55] termination. [2:24:15] >> Can you fix this? I'm not a [2:24:16] lawyer. I am a doctor, [2:24:17] by the way. Can you fix this? [2:24:18] Can you fix this [2:24:21] by just saying after the [2:24:23] initial 20-year period, [2:24:28] the agreement can be terminated [2:24:32] by either party by either [2:24:34] giving written notice. [2:24:40] >> And it'll be five instead [2:24:41] of three. [2:24:42] >> Yeah. As in legally, does [2:24:44] that work if we say you know [2:24:45] following the initial [2:24:46] twenty-year period termination [2:24:47] could occur after that [2:24:48] with five years notice? [2:24:51] >> Five-year notice. [2:24:54] >> Yeah, I certainly can craft [2:24:56] some language to that effect. I [2:24:57] so we're not going [2:24:59] with ten years anymore, just [2:25:00] to be clear. [2:25:01] >> Just go with the initial. [2:25:02] >> 20 is what we put [2:25:04] at the top, so 20 is what we [2:25:06] want a paragraph [2:25:07] to be consistent. [2:25:08] >> It's 20 in the top and 20 [2:25:09] down here. [2:25:12] >> But the termination still [2:25:13] allows them with notice [2:25:14] >> 5 years. [2:25:16] >> It's 5 years. [2:25:17] >> So then we're not guaranteed [2:25:18] the 10 after the term, [2:25:19] after the first [2:25:21] >> after the 20 years. [2:25:22] >> Yeah, she said there's my [2:25:23] point. After the initial, [2:25:24] put that in [2:25:25] after the initial. That's what [2:25:28] you put that in this, [2:25:29] in this paragraph [2:25:31] after the initial term. [2:25:32] >> So you're guaranteeing 20 [2:25:33] years. [2:25:35] >> All right, will do. [2:26:01] >> So you're saying we can't [2:26:02] terminate people now? I didn't [2:26:03] say that. I know, but for 5 [2:26:04] years. [2:26:15] >> In termination, if we're [2:26:16] going to give them 60 days, If [2:26:17] we have 60 days [2:26:19] for everything, we should have [2:26:21] at least 60 days to remove our [2:26:22] tangible property upon [2:26:25] termination. [2:26:36] >> Yes, putting in [2:26:37] after the initial term. [2:26:38] After the initial term? [2:26:39] >> Of 20 years, [2:26:41] 5-year notice. [2:26:42] >> That's what we're putting [2:26:44] in. Okay. Unless you want [2:26:45] to do 10. [2:26:48] >> No, I'm good with 1. [2:26:50] >> And can you explain the [2:26:52] counterparts, [2:26:55] paragraph 14? [2:27:02] >> Yeah, I mean, the way I [2:27:11] understand is that you can sign [2:27:12] essentially 2 different [2:27:14] documents, [2:27:17] and as long as they're the same [2:27:18] document, everybody has [2:27:19] >> Okay, that's what that [2:27:20] means. Thank you. [2:27:22] >> Is it upon or following or [2:27:24] after? Is it is it [2:27:30] >> I mean, upon Yeah, [2:27:35] of the initial period. That's [2:27:36] it. [2:27:48] >> Okay, I'm done. [2:27:59] >> You wanted this to be 5 [2:28:01] years as well, correct? [2:28:05] >> Yeah. [2:28:28] >> Thank God we're almost done. [2:28:32] >> Sir? [2:28:33] >> If I want to postpone the [2:28:35] GMP until we come [2:28:37] to the license agreement, [2:28:38] does that happen [2:28:40] before the GMP? If you have [2:28:41] something to approve [2:28:43] of the license agreement, [2:28:45] then you read the item first. [2:28:47] Right, but I know you can move [2:28:48] on to approve it. [2:28:53] >> Is everybody good [2:28:54] with this section? [2:28:56] >> Yep. Move on. [2:29:09] >> All right. Dr. Walchanski, [2:29:10] you have anything further? [2:29:12] >> I would like [2:29:13] to make a motion. [2:29:14] >> Okay, make the motion. [2:29:16] >> That we Amend the license [2:29:21] agreement as [2:29:24] >> How about this? Let me take [2:29:25] a stab at it for you. [2:29:27] >> Go ahead, Dirk. [2:29:28] >> That you would make a motion [2:29:30] to approve the edited version [2:29:31] now just done [2:29:32] on the record. [2:29:35] >> Okay. [2:29:36] >> As modified here [2:29:37] on the screen live. [2:29:38] >> All right. [2:29:39] >> I'm going to make a motion [2:29:40] that we approve the The edited [2:29:45] version of the licensing [2:29:46] agreement that we just agreed [2:29:48] that we just discussed. [2:29:50] >> Second. [2:29:51] >> Yes, as portrayed by [2:29:53] Hunter's document [2:29:57] on the screen. [2:29:59] >> Did you do the amortization [2:30:02] schedule? [2:30:04] >> Working on it now. It's [2:30:05] going [2:30:06] to take me a minute. [2:30:07] >> Okay. [2:30:08] >> 20 years. [2:30:09] >> The motion is premature [2:30:10] then. [2:30:11] >> Okay. And how do we [2:30:12] incorporate if they don't agree [2:30:13] with this document [2:30:15] to have that meeting? [2:30:16] >> How does that get done? [2:30:19] >> That's a separate thing. [2:30:23] That's a cover letter. Okay. [2:30:24] >> Yeah. [2:30:26] >> So we don't have to agree on [2:30:27] that here? [2:30:28] >> I hear what you're saying. [2:30:29] >> Okay. [2:30:30] >> I think we'd agreed on that. [2:30:31] >> I guess we'll see. [2:30:32] >> It's gonna take him a while. [2:30:43] >> Yep. [2:30:44] >> And now you have to reread [2:30:45] it as written to make sure [2:30:46] that it's [2:30:49] >> I mean, we're gonna be able [2:30:51] to save it and distribute it. [2:30:57] >> Okay. I'd say now is the [2:30:58] time to go to the restroom. [2:30:59] >> I was thinking about that [2:31:01] too. I can't wait. [2:31:16] >> Excuse me. [2:31:17] >> It's so funny. [2:31:18] >> I'm gonna run out of room [2:31:31] on this piece of paper. [2:31:32] >> Yeah, you are. Those are [2:31:33] your important notes. [2:31:35] >> I think I've got to go [2:31:36] from circles to squares now. [2:31:41] See, Louie, this is what you're [2:31:42] gonna do, you know. [2:39:40] >> Now that it's complete, I'd [2:39:41] like [2:39:42] to make the same motion. [2:39:48] >> Yeah, I need a second. [2:39:49] >> Second the motion as per the [2:39:52] changes discussed [2:39:53] by this board [2:39:54] during discussion. [2:39:56] >> And live edited. [2:39:58] >> And live edited, [2:40:00] assuming review [2:40:01] at a later time. [2:40:03] >> Roll call. [2:40:05] >> [CALLING ROLL] [2:40:15] >> Motion passes. [2:40:18] >> I recommend the board [2:40:19] approve Resolution 2026-002 [2:40:22] titled A resolution of the [2:40:23] School Board of Monroe [2:40:24] County, Florida, approving the [2:40:26] guaranteed maximum price from [2:40:27] Keystar Incorporated for [2:40:29] Founders Park baseball [2:40:30] improvements contingent upon [2:40:32] village approval and providing [2:40:33] for an effective date. [2:40:36] >> So moved. [2:40:40] >> I'll make a second, [2:40:41] but I also want [2:40:42] to have some discussion. Even [2:40:43] though we know it's contingent, [2:40:45] I think we should postpone this [2:40:47] motion until the village [2:40:48] Agrees [2:40:49] on the license agreement, [2:40:54] because we have a meeting 2 [2:40:55] days after that. It literally [2:40:57] would take up no extra time. [2:41:01] >> We have a meeting [2:41:02] on the 11th of July? [2:41:03] >> On the 9th. [2:41:05] >> No, we don't. [2:41:06] >> If you're seeking postpone, [2:41:08] that's a higher order motion, [2:41:09] so you have to dispose [2:41:10] of that first. [2:41:12] >> Okay, when's our next [2:41:13] meeting? You'll need a second. [2:41:15] July 21st. Any discussion [2:41:17] on the motion [2:41:21] to postpone? [2:41:35] >> Call the roll. [2:41:38] >> Ms. Talbott. [2:41:41] >> Just the GMP. [2:41:43] >> I understand. [2:41:44] >> It's too late to go back [2:41:45] to discussion? [2:41:46] >> No, on the motion, you can [2:41:48] discuss anything. [2:41:49] >> I didn't know. [2:41:50] >> She started to call the [2:41:51] rules. I didn't know where we [2:41:52] were in the process. Okay. [2:41:53] >> No, I was asking for [2:41:54] discussion. I understand. [2:41:55] >> Okay. I just I guess I'm not [2:41:56] aware [2:41:57] of what the pro and con is [2:41:59] to the postponement. [2:42:00] >> For me, it would just be [2:42:02] that it's possible that they're [2:42:04] not going to agree [2:42:06] to the license agreement, [2:42:07] then we're going [2:42:09] to have a meeting, and then [2:42:10] maybe there's something else we [2:42:12] need. And we've already voted [2:42:13] on a GMP. Just the order of [2:42:15] things makes me uncomfortable. [2:42:17] The contingency makes me less [2:42:18] uncomfortable, but I personally [2:42:20] would rather vote for a GMP [2:42:23] when I know that we have a [2:42:24] license. [2:42:27] >> But it's contingent upon [2:42:28] their approval, correct? [2:42:30] >> Yes. [2:42:32] >> So there's no purpose I can [2:42:34] see. I'm just speaking [2:42:37] out loud, I guess, [2:42:38] for my own vote [2:42:40] in the postponement. So, okay. [2:42:42] Thank you. [2:42:47] >> Okay. Call the roll now. [2:42:48] >> [CALLING ROLL] [2:43:04] >> Okay, back [2:43:06] to the original motion. We [2:43:09] don't have to restate it, [2:43:10] correct? [2:43:12] >> No, sir, it's on the floor [2:43:13] now that the higher-order [2:43:14] motion has been disposed of. [2:43:15] >> Okay, any discussion? Call [2:43:19] the roll. [2:43:20] >> [CALLING ROLL] [2:43:30] >> Motion passes. [2:43:34] >> I recommend the board [2:43:35] approve Personnel [2:43:36] Recommendations Addendum 2. [2:43:37] >> So moved. [2:43:38] >> Second. [2:43:40] >> That was your right, Dr. [2:43:43] Walchanski, you pulled this. [2:43:46] >> No. [2:43:47] >> Okay, any discussion? Any no [2:43:49] votes? Hearing none, the [2:43:59] personnel recommendations are [2:44:00] approved. [2:44:04] >> I recommend the board [2:44:05] approve 2026-2027 contract [2:44:06] renewal with Amendment 3 of 3 [2:44:08] with Amira Learning LLC. [2:44:12] >> So moved. [2:44:15] >> Second. [2:44:18] >> The reason I wanted [2:44:19] to bring this up is Amira is a [2:44:22] someone can correct me if I'm [2:44:26] wrong, but it is a science of [2:44:27] reading program that the school [2:44:29] has the district has found [2:44:31] success in. I don't I'm going [2:44:34] to vote for this, but Amira [2:44:36] uses Yes. And the other one is [2:44:39] AI chatbots that are cartoon [2:44:47] avatars that speak [2:44:49] to children. They don't write [2:44:51] it. And there are many parents [2:44:52] who are concerned [2:44:54] about the use of that kind [2:44:56] of chatbot. And as I discussed [2:44:59] with Mr. Tierney, [2:45:02] before the start [2:45:03] of the school year, I'd [2:45:06] like us to figure out a way to [2:45:08] make people aware that there [2:45:09] are these and to allow parents [2:45:11] to opt out [2:45:13] of the chatbot portion of the [2:45:16] program if they choose to. So [2:45:19] it's nothing that has [2:45:20] to do here, [2:45:22] but I think there's a lot [2:45:23] of concerns right now [2:45:24] about AI and screen time, [2:45:26] especially [2:45:27] with really young children, [2:45:28] and we need to work on a [2:45:29] program that will allow to, [2:45:30] you know, [2:45:31] get all the advantages [2:45:34] of these programs without their [2:45:36] parents being concerned that [2:45:38] they're gonna have the negative [2:45:40] effects of AI chatbots, [2:45:42] which are kind of in the news [2:45:43] now? [2:45:44] >> I'll address that. So it's [2:45:45] 3 of 3. We have been pleased [2:45:46] with this program and seen [2:45:47] documented success. It's an [2:45:49] adaptive program. So adaptive [2:45:50] tests, they become harder or [2:45:53] easier based [2:45:55] on the answer given. This is an [2:45:56] adaptive program that changes [2:45:57] based [2:45:58] on what the students read [2:45:59] to this AI bot. So it's a [2:46:00] closed system. There's a lot [2:46:01] of safeguards in place, but I [2:46:04] do understand the concern and [2:46:05] support parents' right to know [2:46:06] about it. So there is a white [2:46:08] paper that the company gave us [2:46:09] that we can disseminate [2:46:11] to parents. The this [2:46:13] interactive portion is a [2:46:15] critical part [2:46:16] of this program, so we can't [2:46:17] turn that portion off. But if a [2:46:19] parent didn't want their child [2:46:20] exposed to it, [2:46:21] we would find another way [2:46:22] to support the reading. [2:46:23] >> Thank you very much. [2:46:27] >> So if there's no further [2:46:28] discussion, [2:46:29] are there any no votes [2:46:33] on this item? Hearing none, [2:46:35] motion is approved. [2:46:37] At this time, we, [2:46:41] we can say the meeting's over.