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You bet, Mr. Mayor.

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» Good evening, everyone, and welcome to

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Minerva Citizens Night for August 6th,

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2026.

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I call the meeting to order. Uh to do

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that, if you please, uh please rise for

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Pledge of Allegiance and a moment of

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silence.

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» I pledge allegiance to the flag of the

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United States of America and to the

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republic for which it stands, one nation

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under God, indivisible, with liberty and

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justice for all.

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» And please be seated.

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First of all, as Mrs. Macindoe always

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reminds me, make sure, please, if you

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would, folks, please silence

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your cell phones, which I forgot to on

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my other one, as well.

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You don't mind.

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There we go.

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Mrs. Macindoe, roll call, please,

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please.

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» Mayor [snorts] Biondo, Mr. Hizzy,

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» Here.

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» Mr. Poach,

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» Here.

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» Mr. Washington,

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» Here.

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» Mr. Crut,

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» Here.

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» Mr. Adams,

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» Mr. Williams,

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» Here.

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» Mrs. Ramsey,

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» Here.

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» Mr. Graziani,

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» Here.

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» Mr. Ratcher,

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» Mr. Rock,

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» Mr. Hughes,

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» Mr. [clears throat] Lack,

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» Mr. Weldon,

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» Mrs. Lang,

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» All right, good evening, everyone.

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Welcome nice warm evening this evening,

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a pleasant.

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So, we're going to go through our our

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normal citizens night agenda that we

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start with. We're going to have some

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citizens remarks and comments, as well.

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Just a continued reminder on normal

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rules. Have been there 5 You need to A

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be signed in and document that you are a

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Minerva resident in there. Please, when

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you come up, state you are a Minerva

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resident, as well, so we have that for

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the record to do that. Have a 5-minute

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time frame for that. My colleague, Mr.

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Hizzy, brought his outside voice this

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evening. He'll remind me of the 1-minute

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time frame and as well Mr. Graziani try

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to keep that so that you can help allow

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everyone else to have time to speak as

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well. To do that, so let's first see if

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we have anyone is due this evening for

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any remarks or comments.

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Please enter and sign in first and make

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sure you're signed in. State your name

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for the record.

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» Jordan Woodhall

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Monroeville resident

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At the last meeting I had asked if each

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member of um

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council could get a hold of either

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Cypress or Walmart

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since I have failed and Lois Drahm

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Haller up until the beginning of the

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meeting also failed to get any response.

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So, I wanted to know um if you had

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gotten in touch with anybody.

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report what's going on.

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» Okay, our point of contact is usually

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the manager for those things. Mr.

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Graziani, have you had any interesting

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comments or back from them?

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» Nothing has changed uh Walt Walmart

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Cypress as a group are trying to

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finalize deals with the existing

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leaseholders at the mall property and

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it's not an easy process. They have the

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most incentive to be done with that and

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move on to actually executing

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and submitting plans for our approval

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and getting a building built and store

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opened.

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» Okay.

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» However, they're not haven't been

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successful to get to that point. So,

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we're all in a waiting pattern

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you know, till they're able to settle

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with all of the various interests that

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a lease if you will or or rights.

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» Okay, well, I have walked that mall

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since they took ownership

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of the mall.

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tenants left there.

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going on. Most of them have lawyered up

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for obvious reasons. But they're not

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getting any answers.

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And you know, I want to keep us a

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positive attitude because you know, at

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first I said I have no use for Walmart.

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actually right now I feel like I hit the

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jackpot because I'm looking at the big

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and we have billion-dollar Walmart in

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front of us.

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uh one of the

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things that I wanted more than anything

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was to have the veterans something done

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for the veterans and first responders.

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enough for your service

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to our community.

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I do want to say before

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I lose too much time is I attended the

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first community night out at the park

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National Night Out. And it was one of

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the most fulfilling and amazing uh

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experiences that I've ever witnessed.

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thrilled they are and how much respect

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they have for responders and and our

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police is is just an incredible thing.

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It's hard to put into words. Um what I

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wanted to do is one of in particular

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tenant at the mall. He's been in the

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mall 34 years. So Cole's Shop

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Gen X top clothing store in Monroe for

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And I don't want to I mean, I could read

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this into the record. Um I'll leave a

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copy with you. He's been there 34 years

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and he is left clueless. He is paying

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there's no foot traffic whatsoever

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there. None at all. Not for any of these

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stores. Not him. Uh Spector Dulce's

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gone.

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I've been in Time and Space. I've been

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you know, taking trying to buy some

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things at the uh kiosk at the mall and

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there is absolutely most people think

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our mall is closed.

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And it it's really a sad sad situation.

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So I'm going to ask again if

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you people would reach out

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and try and find out what's going on.

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I'm going to submit this to you.

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» Thank you.

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» Give it to Sharon, yep.

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All right. Thank you, ma'am. I

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appreciate it and and it's very Oh,

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sorry.

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» Also, I just want to read part of this.

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we are pleased to inform you that So

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Cool Gen X has been officially

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recognized as a top five of 2025 in

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Monroeville award winning in the

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clothing store category. An honor based

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on verified data from Google reviews as

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analyzed and certified by Business Rate

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Business Rate provides an

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Are you serious, Izzy?

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» Yeah, we got it.

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» Yep. That's what we were told we

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» Okay. Okay. Well, you know, congrats it

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says congratulations again for this

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outstanding achievement earned not by

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application or nomination, but by the

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authentic feedback of your own

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customers.

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So I mean this is the type of people and

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this particular

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that one day I went in there, he had a

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veteran working for him. He just had to

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step out and he had a young man that had

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did I think two tours of duty in

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Afghanistan who he

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you know, tries to help out. My goal as

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I said with Mall Mark is to get them

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either with Wounded Warriors or Tunnel

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to Towers to do something either on the

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property or off the property. And one of

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my suggestions was to get rid of these

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flea bag hotels that we have that are

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nothing but nuisance hotels.

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Crime. People have been murdered in

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these places. So get rid of them.

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They're a nuisance. You can get rid of a

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nuisance bar, get rid of a nuisance

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hotel. Put something there for for our

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veterans and our first responders.

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» All right.

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» Thank you. Thank you, ma'am.

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Thank you for your kind comments about

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Burke's right out. By all means, ma'am.

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Please, have you entered sign in, state

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your name, and sign in, state your

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» In. My name is Cheryl Boyce. I live on

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Turnpike Gardens in Monroeville, and I'm

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here as a taxpayer. I'm glad you brought

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up the mall cuz I'm going to

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briefly just talk about that. Um next

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week, Wednesday, 5:30 CCAC,

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uh we're going to have another meeting

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with Allegheny County Council about the

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assessments.

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» Mhm.

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» My question to you is, because my

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husband and I have been researching that

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as long-time taxpayers in this area,

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you know, there's the loop program

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versus a homestead exclusion, the

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waterfall laws, all that kind of good

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stuff that when you start researching

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it, there's a lot of questions. So, my

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question to all of you is,

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are they reaching out to the

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municipalities,

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also getting input, and talking to each

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of you about the impact eventually down

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the road as they're working through this

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process. What is the communication

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between the county and you? Is there any

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at all on that?

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» I'll let you finish, then I can I'll

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speak to that. Go ahead.

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» Um and so far as the mall goes, because

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we're doing two things in Monroeville

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simultaneously. We're having the

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reassessments, which to be honest with

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you, my house is now worth four times

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what it was when we first bought here 35

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years ago. My family's lived here 80

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years. So, a lot of changes. But, one of

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my concerns is today, we took a little

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hike out uh to Westmoreland County

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because my husband, who has been a

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Dick's Sporting Goods

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uh customer forever,

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got a notice that they opened their new

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megastore on Route 30.

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» Right.

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» Um unless they put one in Monroeville,

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we can't compete.

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And I know these stores are leaving,

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leaving, leaving. That's a huge thing.

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I mean, Route 30 is not that far from

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here. We walked [clears throat] through

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that store, climbing walls, batting

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cages, all this stuff double what's here

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in Monroeville. So, as we're arguing

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also and discussing assessments, we're

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sitting here with the mall, and she's

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right, what's going on with with the

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mall as people are leaving. I mean,

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Dick's just opened this this weekend.

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It's you can't believe the parking lot.

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So, what's going to happen? Um I'm a

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little concerned about that and how

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that's going to impact us all. So, if

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you could just address specifically the

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county and how they're communicating

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what's going to happen. Are we going to

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have public meetings in Monroeville with

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you guys once they figure out how we're

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going to proceed with all of this.

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» Okay.

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Anything else?

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» Mr. Poch, you're on.

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» Well, I was Do you have any You have

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some time? That's

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I'll I'll I'll steal your last 2 seconds

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minutes and a while. In

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uh my role in the League of

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Municipalities as well, the answer to

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your question is, and much to our

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chagrin, no. They haven't reached out to

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us. And we have as the the Board of

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Directors of the League of

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Municipalities has written letters like,

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"Hey folks, how about talk to us?" So,

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it's not a very pleasant piece that, but

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we're still not finished with that.

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We've directed the um

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the executive director of that group to

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continue to reach out and say, "Hey,

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guys are scheduling meetings, don't

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forget to talk to your local officials."

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So,

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I would

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suggest you speak to your county council

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representative. Is that right, Michelle?

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Is that right?

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» She doesn't respond.

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» Okay.

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» But, we're going to Some of us are going

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to go down there on Wednesday and have a

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little conversation with them because

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they represent us. And I think sometimes

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county council fails to realize that cuz

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we don't always go down and bother them.

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I think it's time to bother them.

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So, we'll see what happens.

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» Thank you for your effort. I appreciate

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it.

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» I'm not going to let it go, but thank

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you very much. And when you do get an

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update about the mall, please, because

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she's right. When you walk through

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there,

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» We know.

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» It looks like the valley of the dead.

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So, thank you very much.

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» We've had zombies there before.

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» [laughter]

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» I had to get a zombie joke in.

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Had to get a zombie joke in, too. Hi,

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good evening.

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» Hi.

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» And please state your name for the

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record. I'm sorry, again, please?

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» My name is Adrienne Weiss, and I'm a

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Monroeville resident. Would you like me

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to sign in, ma'am?

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» And I have signed in previously.

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There used to be a way to

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show you

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» You can

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there Well, wasn't There's a rough X

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still right in the middle of it. Now,

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put it on the ground.

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» Yes.

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» So, when driving eastbound on 22,

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this sign is

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near the road in front of Bob's

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Furniture.

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And there's an L that fell off. So, it

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looks like Monroeville.

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» Oh, okay.

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» This is very bad, and I talked with Mr.

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Wilson about the

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» I I'd be I'd be a lap but I'm sorry I

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drew a pa- I didn't see that.

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» And and some people would say it is vile

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how there's so many empty buildings and

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and, you know, what do we have to show

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for that Monroeville is so great.

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And back in the day, when Tim Little was

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here and I had said right in your front

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that thing it said

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municipal building, because the M fell

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off of your sign in front of this

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building.

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» [laughter]

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» I used to be a proofreader and

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advertising writer and and so forth, and

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I'm an author and all that. But,

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proofreading is one of my things. So,

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when I saw this sign,

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I asked about it.

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Mr. Williams said, "Oh, it's going to be

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like a $15,000." [laughter]

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I think he quoted me. And

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but that it was going to be

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» [laughter]

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» Not a municipal expense from your

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budget, it or

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improvements or whatnot, it was going to

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be Rotary.

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» Yes, the Rotary.

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» I went to a Rotary meeting and I learned

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that this sign would cost $150,000

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and it would be the sign of a of a size

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of a billboard and electronic like what

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you have at 2248

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uh intersection, only much bigger like

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and you would need a variance and and

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you need a way to get to it and there's

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no way to get to it right now.

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If this becomes a Monroeville capital

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improvement budget expense instead of a

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Rotary expense,

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uh I think, you know, everybody is going

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to go like,

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"Why do we need a giant sign like that

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and electronic and not even solar

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powered but on the grid, another expense

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for the municipality

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to have an electric bill

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up'd with this thing?" And really we

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just need the L put on there for now.

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And it could take several years before

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they could do this whole variance and

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and excavation and and the property

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belongs to some fellow uh that parcel.

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So, there's just all these things that

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have to do with it that sort of upset

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me. It's like, "Why can't you just get

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another L?" Somebody did inspect that it

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wasn't on the ground outside. They don't

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know where it is. Just

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you know, you're we're we're not

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welcoming people to Monroeville.

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It's not a good sign.

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» Well, so not not to channel my best Pat

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Sajak, Alex, can you find out getting us

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an L? Okay. I will do the best we can,

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Mayor. I I don't mean to make light of

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it, too, but we'll we'll see what's

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going on with that, too.

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» The M you got for the municipal building

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» Yeah, that was our that was our M, yeah.

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» It's not the same thickness.

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» I understand. I know.

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» It was upsetting to me, too. It's like,

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"Couldn't you match it or just get all

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new letters?" But

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» Can Can you be sure you give give me

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your Send an email to the manager to

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make sure that he has your email address

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and then a follow-up with the two. Okay.

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» Yeah, there has to be an easement. It

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could take 5 to 6 years from what I

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learned and so forth.

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» Thank you, ma'am.

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» Okay.

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Do you want this?

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» I don't feel vile enough this evening,

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but that's okay.

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» Thank you.

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» It's not very welcoming.

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» No, no, it's not. It's not.

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» I better not have any more caffeine

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before I come to me.

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Okay.

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» Hi, good evening.

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My name is Mallory Grants. I do live on

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Monroeville Boulevard.

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» Did you sign in, ma'am?

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» Yes, I did.

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» Mhm.

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» Sure did. Uh and I spoke last uh

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citizens night a few weeks ago about

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trust, transparency, and community

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engagement. So, tonight I'd like to talk

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briefly about consistency.

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A few weeks ago, the Monroeville Public

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Library promoted a children's [cough]

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program called Faith and Fossils: Adam's

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Pet Velociraptor, which presented a

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young Earth Christian perspective,

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including the belief that humans and

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dinosaurs lived together. I am not here

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I'm not here to criticize the library

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for hosting this event or promoting it.

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Public libraries serve diverse

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communities and community members should

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be free to organize programs that

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reflect a variety of viewpoints and

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interests. Now, on Facebook, some

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residents agreed with the program,

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others disagreed, and some questioned

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whether it belonged in the library at

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all. And all of these reactions were

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perfectly reasonable in a free and open

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society.

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What struck me was not the program

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itself. What struck me was the response.

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The residents discussed it, they debated

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it, they shared their opinions, and some

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defended it, some challenged it, and

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many pointed out what they saw as

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hypocrisy in previous community debates.

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But overwhelmingly, the conversation

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centered on the ideas themselves.

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I did not see demands the library remove

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the event. I did not see calls to punish

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the library for allowing it.

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I did not see the public suggest that

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the library's funding should be

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threatened because some residents

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disagreed with the message being

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presented. And I certainly did not see

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elected officials publicly questioning

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whether the library should be permitted

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to offer the program at all.

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That, in my view, is exactly what our

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residents should expect from our elected

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officials moving forward. I hope this

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approach continues next June and in

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every future conversation about our

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public library. Council members, like

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every resident, are absolutely entitled

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to their own personal opinions and

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religious beliefs, but those beliefs

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should not outweigh the professional

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judgment of the librarians our community

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has hired to do this work. Our

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librarians have specialized education,

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training, and experience in library

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science, intellectual freedom,

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collection development, and serving

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diverse communities. Their expertise in

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these matters exceeds that of most of us

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in this room, mine included, and it

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deserves to be respected. They were

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hired because they are the professionals

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and they should be trusted to do the

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jobs they were trained to do without

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political interference. The role of

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council is not to decide which

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viewpoints deserve a place in the

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library based on personal preference. It

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is to support the institution, respect

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the professionals who manage it, and

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allow them to serve the entire community

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fairly and consistently. That consistent

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or that difference absolutely matters. A

554
00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:37,560
healthy community is not one in which

555
00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:39,760
everyone agrees, a healthy community is

556
00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:41,960
one in which people can disagree without

557
00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:43,880
attempting to silence one another or

558
00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:45,800
pressure public institutions into taking

559
00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:47,080
sides.

560
00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:49,160
We do not all have to approve of every

561
00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:51,400
book, every display, speaker, program,

562
00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:53,400
or anything. In fact, in a community as

563
00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:55,920
diverse as Monroeville, it would be

564
00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:57,080
impossible to expect that we all would.

565
00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:59,000
But I hope we can agree on this

566
00:18:57,080 --> 00:19:01,560
principle. Disagreement should be met

567
00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:02,960
first with conversation, not political

568
00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:04,080
pressure.

569
00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:05,760
I also want to take a moment and

570
00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:07,160
recognize one of the very positive

571
00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:08,400
things that happened in the past 2 weeks

572
00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:10,120
in Monroeville.

573
00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:11,320
2 weeks ago, our parks department, in

574
00:19:10,120 --> 00:19:12,960
partnership with Gateway School

575
00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:14,720
District, brought Seussical Kids to the

576
00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:15,960
community through their youth theater

577
00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:18,200
program.

578
00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:19,560
The Parks Department deserves tremendous

579
00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:20,720
tremendous credit for creating

580
00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:22,280
opportunities like this and for

581
00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:24,603
investing in programs that enrich the

582
00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:25,800
lives of our young people. By partnering

583
00:19:24,603 --> 00:19:27,440
[clears throat] with Gateway, they gave

584
00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:29,200
dozens of children the chance to spend

585
00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:31,160
part of their summer learning music,

586
00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:33,400
acting, teamwork, and confidence while

587
00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:35,200
performing for our community. Those

588
00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:36,800
experiences build skills, friendships,

589
00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:38,640
and lasting memories that extend far

590
00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:40,160
beyond the stage.

591
00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:42,560
I also hope to see more members of

592
00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:44,640
council at events like these, at school

593
00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:47,400
performances, youth sports, community

594
00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:48,800
festivals, library programs, and the

595
00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:51,880
many activities that bring Monroeville

596
00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:54,280
together. There is no substitute for

597
00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:56,480
showing up. The more often that you are

598
00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:59,240
present where our residents gather,

599
00:19:56,480 --> 00:20:00,680
volunteer, and perform, and learn, the

600
00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:03,040
better that you will understand the

601
00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:04,200
people you were elected to represent and

602
00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:05,960
the institutions that make this

603
00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:06,640
community so special.

604
00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:08,000
» One minute.

605
00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:09,680
» As residents, we should continue

606
00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:11,320
supporting these institutions,

607
00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:13,040
celebrating their successes, and

608
00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:15,560
remaining engaged in the decisions that

609
00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:16,880
affect them. I said during my last visit

610
00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:18,800
that the people are paying attention,

611
00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:19,920
and this remains true today.

612
00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:21,760
I'm not saying this because we are

613
00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:24,240
looking for conflict, but because we

614
00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:26,480
care deeply about our community, our

615
00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:28,240
public institutions, and the principles

616
00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:30,800
of fairness and consistency that allow

617
00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:32,760
them to thrive. Thank you for your time.

618
00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:34,040
» Do you want to Do you want to submit

619
00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:35,344
» I'm sure I got a bunch of notes all over

620
00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:35,760
it, but yeah.

621
00:20:35,344 --> 00:20:38,600
» [laughter]

622
00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:38,600
» Okay, thank you.

623
00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:43,400
» Nancy Ceiling.

624
00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:50,840
» Hello all. My name is Nancy Gormley. I

625
00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:52,080
live on Greenleaf Drive in Monroeville,

626
00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:52,600
and I did sign in.

627
00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:53,200
» Thank you.

628
00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:55,680
» Thank you.

629
00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:57,680
» Um I hate to beat a dead horse,

630
00:20:55,680 --> 00:21:00,400
but there was a comment made

631
00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:03,280
during the um councilman's uh

632
00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:04,360
councilperson, excuse me, Mr. Mrs.

633
00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:05,800
Ramsey,

634
00:21:04,360 --> 00:21:07,440
um

635
00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:08,840
um conversations at the end of the

636
00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:09,920
meeting that we didn't have a chance to

637
00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:12,760
address.

638
00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:14,120
And that was about the library code.

639
00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:16,200
And, um,

640
00:21:14,120 --> 00:21:17,960
one councilman said, "Yeah, I think

641
00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:20,600
there's something in the PA library

642
00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:23,320
code." Well, let me inform you, this is

643
00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:26,840
exactly what it says.

644
00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:29,360
A local library, this is chapter 9318,

645
00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:31,400
local library governance.

646
00:21:29,360 --> 00:21:32,800
A local library established under this

647
00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:36,880
chapter

648
00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:39,160
or of the former act of June 14th, 1961,

649
00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:41,240
known as the library code, shall be

650
00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:43,280
governed exclusively

651
00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:45,200
by a board of library directors as

652
00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:47,120
follows. And then there's some

653
00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:49,560
exclusions that don't pertain to us,

654
00:21:47,120 --> 00:21:50,960
like if two municipalities share a a

655
00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:52,920
library.

656
00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:54,840
But the interesting thing,

657
00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:56,160
considering what we were talking about

658
00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,840
last month,

659
00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:59,360
is when we look at Monroeville's own

660
00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:01,840
code,

661
00:21:59,360 --> 00:22:04,200
chapter 80-1.

662
00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:06,680
This is hereby created and established

663
00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:08,120
in the municipality of Monroeville,

664
00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:10,040
the board of directors of the

665
00:22:08,120 --> 00:22:13,360
Monroeville library, which shall have

666
00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:16,320
full and complete control over the

667
00:22:13,360 --> 00:22:18,600
operation and conduct of a municipal

668
00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:20,960
library, including the effort to get

669
00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:22,760
such a library established.

670
00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:24,760
Which means,

671
00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:27,440
in my legal opinion,

672
00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:30,840
and that's just from watching TV,

673
00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:32,840
I believe that our municipal manager, at

674
00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:34,880
the direction of council, some council

675
00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:36,360
members overstepped.

676
00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:39,320
Because there was a board meeting held

677
00:22:36,360 --> 00:22:41,920
that month to discuss the topic at hand.

678
00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:43,960
They voted to allow the display to stay,

679
00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:46,280
and it was overruled. And I think that's

680
00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:48,200
a violation of this ordinance, and I'm

681
00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:50,280
very disappointed that our manager

682
00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:51,760
didn't know better, because that's his

683
00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,520
job.

684
00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:53,040
So, thank you.

685
00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:55,400
» Thank you.

686
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,400
» Thank you.

687
00:22:55,480 --> 00:23:01,400
» Anyone else in any other Monroeville

688
00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:01,400
items that we have in citizens night?

689
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:07,200
All right, I'll be close that section of

690
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:10,240
the meeting for now.

691
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:12,280
And on to my favorite part

692
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:13,520
is we have some a couple of hearings for

693
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,880
folks

694
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:18,240
next on a couple of

695
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:21,680
items for conditional uses as we move

696
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:23,680
forward to do that. The first one is

697
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:25,880
Seven Brew for those individuals that

698
00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:27,520
are involved and want to give testimony

699
00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:30,280
or anything please could you please

700
00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:31,120
stand up?

701
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:33,560
You're the only one, sir. Could you

702
00:23:31,120 --> 00:23:35,040
raise your right hand?

703
00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:35,600
Tell the truth

704
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:36,760
promise to tell [clears throat] the

705
00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:37,400
truth, the whole truth, and nothing but

706
00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:37,920
the truth?

707
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,360
» I do.

708
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,240
» Please state your name for the record.

709
00:23:39,360 --> 00:23:42,120
» Bob Gage.

710
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:43,640
» Okay.

711
00:23:42,120 --> 00:23:44,920
Bob, can you come forward?

712
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:47,080
» Good evening.

713
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:49,960
My name is Bob Gage. I'm with Brew Brew

714
00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:52,120
LLC. We are a franchisee of Seven Brew

715
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:54,520
Coffee.

716
00:23:52,120 --> 00:23:56,840
And I am here to request conditional

717
00:23:54,520 --> 00:24:00,680
approval

718
00:23:56,840 --> 00:24:00,680
for a conditional use.

719
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:04,480
The reason for the conditional use, we

720
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:07,000
are a use by right, but the reason for

721
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:10,280
the conditional use is two primary

722
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:12,520
structures on one parcel. At the last

723
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:14,960
month's meeting, the Express Car Wash

724
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:16,840
came through. I believe you all saw that

725
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:18,200
and that was approved and this is the

726
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:20,320
second structure that is on that

727
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:22,631
» Just for everyone's refreshment, so to

728
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,520
limit, no pun intended.

729
00:24:22,631 --> 00:24:24,440
» [laughter]

730
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,160
» Yeah.

731
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:27,280
Could you please identify the two major

732
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:29,400
roads that are on the two sides?

733
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:32,160
» Yes, sorry. William Penn Highway and

734
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,680
Center Street, I believe. Center Road.

735
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,080
» Yep.

736
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:37,440
» Yes.

737
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:39,360
This is the basic layout of the proposed

738
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:41,280
development. We have a right in right

739
00:24:39,360 --> 00:24:43,160
out off of William Penn

740
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:45,960
that comes in, circles around, our queue

741
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:48,160
lanes start on the the northwest side of

742
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:50,200
our of our parcel.

743
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:52,960
Wrap back around and the building sits

744
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:55,640
here facing toward William Penn.

745
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:57,680
This is a 100% drive-thru facility.

746
00:24:55,640 --> 00:25:01,080
There is no walk-up traffic, no sit-down

747
00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:02,680
traffic. Uh 100% drive-thru.

748
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:04,920
Um

749
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:07,040
as you come through, get uh your

750
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:08,280
product, leave. You've got the choice of

751
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:10,240
either coming back down and doing a

752
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:12,040
right out on William Penn or going back

753
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:13,920
over to center and coming down to the

754
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:15,880
light and going in either direction uh

755
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:17,200
east or west from there.

756
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:20,880
Um

757
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:23,080
it is a 510 sq ft building with a 273 sq

758
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:24,880
ft auxiliary building, which is a cooler

759
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,920
that sits adjacent to the primary

760
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:28,120
building.

761
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:29,960
Uh it is a modular structure. It will

762
00:25:28,120 --> 00:25:31,800
come in on the back of a truck uh once

763
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:34,160
we get all the site work done, we bring

764
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:35,720
it in, set it down, 4 days later it's

765
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:37,920
ready for business.

766
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:39,000
Uh be happy to answer any questions if

767
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,960
anyone has any.

768
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,480
» Council?

769
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,720
» Yes, Bob.

770
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:45,880
» My other question, uh the sidewalks

771
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:48,560
around that property,

772
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:49,560
uh they need repaired or replaced. And

773
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:51,920
and

774
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:53,840
was was that addressed?

775
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:57,680
» Yes, they're actually going to uh

776
00:25:53,840 --> 00:26:00,040
replace the stairs, put a ramp in, and

777
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:01,960
uh most of the sidewalk on their portion

778
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,600
was in decent shape. There might be a

779
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,840
couple areas that need touched up, but

780
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:09,080
for the most part it wasn't too bad.

781
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:10,960
» My other question is this is a

782
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,520
drive-thru facility only.

783
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:12,720
» Correct.

784
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,680
» Okay.

785
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:16,840
And our ordinance still requires all

786
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:18,440
these extra parking places. Nobody's

787
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,240
ever going to park here if it's driving

788
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:19,960
through.

789
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,000
» The

790
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,360
» Employees.

791
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,920
» Uh the parking spaces are for the

792
00:26:22,360 --> 00:26:24,520
employees. So

793
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:27,000
» Employees?

794
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:29,400
» Yes, sir. Uh we have uh

795
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:31,400
4-hour shifts throughout the day, so we

796
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:34,440
have a lot of people coming and going uh

797
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:36,680
employees that uh we we want to provide

798
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:38,280
enough parking there for the overlap

799
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:39,040
during the the shift changes.

800
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,800
» Okay.

801
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:43,480
» So that's the reason for the the number

802
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:45,200
of uh parking that we have here. And if

803
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:47,400
the store does get busy, we do have the

804
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:48,698
capacity to have as many as 22 employees

805
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,560
on site at a time to take care

806
00:26:48,698 --> 00:26:51,680
[clears throat] of that volume.

807
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,720
» Okay. What what is the size of this

808
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,120
module?

809
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,880
» 510 square feet.

810
00:26:54,120 --> 00:26:56,000
» Do you Do do put an illustration up

811
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,760
there?

812
00:26:56,000 --> 00:27:02,880
» An illustration or something?

813
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:02,880
» This is the front of the building?

814
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:06,880
» Oh, it's small.

815
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,280
» It's very small.

816
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,920
» And that

817
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,600
comes in sections?

818
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:14,200
» It does, yes sir. It'll come on three

819
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:16,240
semis. So, the base, this this part

820
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,960
under the canopy will come on one truck.

821
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,000
The top part will come on a second

822
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:21,520
truck.

823
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:22,920
And then this is the cooler, auxiliary

824
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:26,640
cooler building that will come on a

825
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:26,640
third truck along with the canopies.

826
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:30,560
» Why Why is the cooler not connected to

827
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,480
the building? They got to walk outside

828
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:32,880
to get to the cooler?

829
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,360
» We've got constraints regarding

830
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:36,160
transportation.

831
00:27:34,360 --> 00:27:38,040
So, we we can only have we can only go

832
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:39,760
so big with the main building and still

833
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,800
fit it on a truck and get it here on

834
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:43,440
site

835
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:44,400
through DOT permitting.

836
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,240
» Okay, thank you.

837
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,280
» Yes, sir.

838
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,440
» Bob.

839
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:50,160
» Um what are your days and hours of

840
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,640
operation?

841
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:54,440
» Uh we're open 7 days a week, 5:30 a.m.

842
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,160
till 10:30 p.m.

843
00:27:54,440 --> 00:28:00,040
Uh

844
00:27:55,160 --> 00:28:02,760
on Sunday it is 6:30 a.m. till 9:30 p.m.

845
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:04,440
Those are starting hours depending on

846
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:06,000
what the volume is, what our traffic

847
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:08,080
looks like, those can be adjusted after

848
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,920
we get get it open and and operating,

849
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,680
but those are the area hours that we

850
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,200
start with.

851
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,760
» Sure, one of the questions always is

852
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,800
about these kind of facilities. How much

853
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,800
of a queue do you have [clears throat]

854
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:18,440
for cars? It looks like you have a fair

855
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:20,920
number. Do you know what the number is?

856
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,960
How many cars you can fit in the area

857
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:22,680
inside your uh

858
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:23,760
» I do.

859
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,720
» Those two driveways?

860
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,320
» Yes, so we've designed this to hold 31

861
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:27,000
cars.

862
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,120
» Okay.

863
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:31,080
» So, and that that is in the queue lanes

864
00:28:29,120 --> 00:28:33,000
up to this point here.

865
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:35,600
Where the queue lane starts. So, uh

866
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:38,320
theoretically we have more room if we

867
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:41,440
needed. Uh the best operating store that

868
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:42,880
we have to date uh will do 28 cars at

869
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,880
the peak hour in the afternoon and that

870
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:47,400
typically lasts for 2 minutes during

871
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:50,120
that 4-to-6-hour rush. Uh so, we feel

872
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:52,000
like we've designed it to handle uh the

873
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,480
biggest load we can expect.

874
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,520
» Thank you.

875
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:56,240
» Yes, sir.

876
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,840
» Question for solicitor.

877
00:28:56,240 --> 00:29:00,280
» Yes.

878
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:01,440
» Refresh my memory

879
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,960
when you

880
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:05,800
put in a conditional use

881
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:07,440
and they would decide to tear this down

882
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:09,360
and put something else in there. Does

883
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:11,320
that conditional use stay with the

884
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,400
property or the project?

885
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,240
» No, it's not like a variance. If they

886
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,320
terminate the use, then the use doesn't

887
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:15,600
exist anymore.

888
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,600
» Okay.

889
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:19,520
» Nobody has a right to that use if they

890
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:21,880
remove everything from the property.

891
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:24,840
Now, if the if the building stayed

892
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:27,920
then a person would be able to continue.

893
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:30,120
But if they remove the the building

894
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,880
itself, then that's the end of the use.

895
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,680
» Okay. Thank you.

896
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:35,800
» To start all over again.

897
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:37,200
» And this is a lease for us and we do

898
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,920
have written in the lease that we have

899
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,800
the ability to remove the building once

900
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,320
» Yeah.

901
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,960
» If and when we ever close it.

902
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:44,000
» Can I Can I think I heard when the car

903
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,480
wash was here, excuse me for

904
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:47,120
interrupting you.

905
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:49,680
I think I heard that you have cross

906
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:51,760
easements and everything to handle it.

907
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:53,320
The getting in and out onto the highway.

908
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:55,160
» Yes, sir. Yes, sir. We have cross access

909
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:57,400
easements for both.

910
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:59,640
So car wash people can enter our site

911
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,600
and we can leave and enter through the

912
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:01,720
car wash site as well.

913
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:04,120
» Okay. Great.

914
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:08,840
» So with this property,

915
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:11,760
they can't sell the car wash or the

916
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:13,400
coffee shop to another individual. It

917
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,920
has to stay with the same individual.

918
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:17,160
» No, they could they could sell it if

919
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:19,880
they want. I mean, whoever would buy

920
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:22,280
part of it, let's say, would be subject

921
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:24,280
to the same rights that have been

922
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:26,680
already been established between the two

923
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:28,560
property, the two operations.

924
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,720
So, yeah, they can

925
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,720
freely transfer it.

926
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:34,080
» Okay. Thank you.

927
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:36,400
» Any other questions from council?

928
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:38,000
» Staff, Paul, anything interesting in

929
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,600
» This isn't really a I guess it's kind of

930
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,600
a new

931
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,520
experience for us.

932
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:44,120
» No, uh know, we've reviewed it. Gateway

933
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,720
Engineers has reviewed it. There's some

934
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:48,000
stormwater questions they're working

935
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:49,120
through, but uh we expect full

936
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:51,160
compliance.

937
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:54,360
» And we'll be ready to go by Tuesday?

938
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:54,360
» Uh maybe Wednesday.

939
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:59,400
» Okay. As long as we have it spelled out

940
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,560
for the look for it here. All right, if

941
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,680
there aren't any other questions, thank

942
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,200
you, sir. We look forward to you.

943
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,840
» Thank you.

944
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,720
» I'll see you next week.

945
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,280
Yeah, I

946
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,880
That's true, too. Is there anyone

947
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,600
presently I didn't nobody else stood up

948
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,560
to for the testimony, but did

949
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:11,560
» He's the only one who stood.

950
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:14,160
» Yeah, he's the only one who stood up,

951
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:16,360
but nobody else had comment. Okay.

952
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:18,120
Thank you for reminding me that.

953
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:19,680
All right. Uh motion to close that

954
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,720
particular hearing.

955
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:21,600
» Motion.

956
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:22,480
» Second.

957
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:22,920
» All in favor?

958
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,040
» Aye.

959
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:27,160
» Okay, closed.

960
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:29,760
All right. So, we want to talk about

961
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:31,520
next item on the agenda is the

962
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:33,960
proposal for the capital improvement

963
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,760
plan. Mr. Graziani, please see me at the

964
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:35,920
podium.

965
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,200
» Yes, sir.

966
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,440
Jared, if you could put the slides up,

967
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,440
we'll just quickly go through them. Not

968
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:43,200
a lot of slides, there's only nine.

969
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:45,760
Um so, back in the end of July, there

970
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:48,120
was a draft capital program given you as

971
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:49,960
you recall from our discussions last

972
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:51,360
year when we uh spent a lot of time on

973
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,840
it. You should be familiar with the

974
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,760
process, but I'll quickly go through the

975
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:56,800
slides. So, you know, we're always

976
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:58,040
looking 20 years out ahead. Why? Well,

977
00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:00,080
we talked a lot about fire trucks

978
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:02,280
lasting 20 years. We talk about

979
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:04,400
buildings maybe lasting more, but it's

980
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:07,040
trying to maintain our our capital

981
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:08,520
assets over time. So, the 20 years is

982
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,840
what you look at, the 5 years is what

983
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:12,000
you focus on, and of course every

984
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:14,360
December you uh

985
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,760
you make 1-year CIP.

986
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:18,480
Uh but throughout the years, you guys

987
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:20,360
have done, you know, we approve purchase

988
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:22,640
orders for capital improvements.

989
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:23,280
And we're constantly assessing that. Uh

990
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:24,800
notice [clears throat] there was a

991
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:27,040
little bit of flow.

992
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:28,440
Um the the capital purchase requests

993
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:30,440
didn't occur in January. I think we

994
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:32,720
started in February, and then we went

995
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:34,360
through a bunch. There's none on this

996
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:36,880
month's meeting just because that's how

997
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:39,280
they they flow. We try to manage cash

998
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:40,760
balances. We try to manage, um, you

999
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:42,320
know, the timing of when the purchase

1000
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:44,240
order is ready to be submitted to you

1001
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:46,080
all, and then you make that that

1002
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:48,920
decision. But, it's all about trying to

1003
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:50,800
maintain fund balance in the long run.

1004
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:53,720
Um, so right now, you know, our capital

1005
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:57,920
needs are about 28 million. And if you

1006
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:59,720
read the cover sections of the plan that

1007
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:02,960
was submitted the end of July last year,

1008
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:04,880
we were about 38 million dollars.

1009
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:07,240
Um, and that was cuz we did have a a bit

1010
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:09,480
of an extra year, so it was a basically

1011
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:11,840
a a 6-year instead of a 5-year, as well

1012
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:14,440
as some other backlog projects.

1013
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:16,400
Um, the when we look at funding, you

1014
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,720
know, right now there's a gap, and that

1015
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,640
quite frankly is cuz we got to apply for

1016
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:21,400
grants. You know, when you approve those

1017
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:23,200
traffic signals,

1018
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:25,040
you might be doing a 1.2 million-dollar

1019
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:27,560
project, and we might have an

1020
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:28,920
800,000-dollar grant, for example. So,

1021
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,920
we don't have those grant commitments in

1022
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:33,120
hand, we won't proceed with a project,

1023
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:35,200
for example, that is relying on a grant

1024
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:36,640
commitment. So, roughly you're about 29

1025
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:40,200
million dollars in expenditures with

1026
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:43,680
about 25 million dollars in funding. Um,

1027
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:47,280
just to give you a framework. Meanwhile,

1028
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:50,080
we depend on the different years,

1029
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:52,360
they're not uniform. For example, there

1030
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:54,560
might be a larger purchase in one year

1031
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:56,920
and less. What remains relatively

1032
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:59,800
constant, at least we're trying to, are

1033
00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:02,600
the investments we make in roads and

1034
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:05,640
specifically the the paving program, as

1035
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:09,240
well as the associated crack sealing and

1036
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:10,639
uh seal coating fog sealing, and the the

1037
00:34:09,240 --> 00:34:12,320
guardrail. I've already mentioned

1038
00:34:10,639 --> 00:34:16,440
traffic signals. Now, as you all

1039
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:17,440
realize, we're getting less paving over

1040
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,200
time

1041
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,679
with the same investment, you know, just

1042
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:23,040
like in your home, inflation is

1043
00:34:20,679 --> 00:34:24,679
impacting our

1044
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,960
ability to get things done. So, it's

1045
00:34:24,679 --> 00:34:28,240
it's something that we've got to keep in

1046
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:30,200
mind. The number of roads don't don't

1047
00:34:28,240 --> 00:34:31,879
shrink over time. In fact, they grow as

1048
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:34,800
developments get approved.

1049
00:34:31,879 --> 00:34:37,040
Uh, however, our buying power decreases,

1050
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:39,639
but that's a significant portion, a good

1051
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:41,600
bit of the program is in the road

1052
00:34:39,639 --> 00:34:43,960
program itself.

1053
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:46,159
So, when we look at that, we talk about

1054
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:48,800
the different breakdowns. You know, the

1055
00:34:46,159 --> 00:34:50,280
road's $2.6 million.

1056
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:52,200
You look at public safety, police

1057
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:54,560
vehicles, public works vehicles, the

1058
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:56,360
fire truck that we're looking to order,

1059
00:34:54,560 --> 00:35:00,040
you know, and so forth. So, these

1060
00:34:56,360 --> 00:35:01,440
details are all in the report. We can

1061
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,440
take as much time as you like to go over

1062
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:05,440
the report, come to our office. If

1063
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:08,200
questions will walk through it and help

1064
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:10,400
you. The the fire agreement is something

1065
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:12,520
you have approved, so it's in this plan.

1066
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:14,720
It's just like we worded it.

1067
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:17,240
We will make sure the final that you all

1068
00:35:14,720 --> 00:35:18,840
look at have those exact numbers as

1069
00:35:17,240 --> 00:35:20,840
reflected. Now,

1070
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:22,720
maybe those quotes change a bit

1071
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:24,840
when they actually are ordered, but

1072
00:35:22,720 --> 00:35:26,240
right now they'll reflect what's in the

1073
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,800
the agreement.

1074
00:35:26,240 --> 00:35:29,240
Implementation,

1075
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,600
obviously everything depends on

1076
00:35:29,240 --> 00:35:31,880
resources.

1077
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,920
The general [clears throat] fund is

1078
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:35,360
first.

1079
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:38,320
That's the day-to-day, keep the lights

1080
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:40,560
open 365, 24 hours a day.

1081
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,960
Once that's fed,

1082
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,320
the leftovers go to things like the

1083
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,760
capital.

1084
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:48,160
So, we always are trying to maintain

1085
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:50,240
that. We're for us, our goal is that

1086
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:52,720
January 2032,

1087
00:35:50,240 --> 00:35:55,160
the community has at least 20% reserves

1088
00:35:52,720 --> 00:35:57,160
in the bank January 1, 2032. We're

1089
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:59,600
always working at that number. So,

1090
00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:02,240
everything is predicated on will in

1091
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:04,520
January 2032 we have at least 20% in the

1092
00:36:02,240 --> 00:36:06,840
bank for our capital part or for our

1093
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:09,280
general fund. If we don't, what gets

1094
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:11,080
dialed back, quite frankly, are capital

1095
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:13,480
expenditures. We have a pay-as-you-go

1096
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:15,400
program. This anticipates no debt. We're

1097
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:17,840
now out of debt. We made our last bond

1098
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:20,320
payment. This capital program has no

1099
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:22,160
debt. As I said, if there is a grant

1100
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:24,280
that we're not successful in getting, we

1101
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:26,280
won't execute the project. Just how it

1102
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:28,280
goes. We have to keep the lights on. So,

1103
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:30,400
the general funds came and this is

1104
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:32,280
subservient to the general fund. So the

1105
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:34,720
transfers for the most part the fund the

1106
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:36,960
capital come out of the general fund and

1107
00:36:34,720 --> 00:36:39,160
each December you'll be approving that

1108
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:41,520
transfer. When you adopt the general

1109
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:44,520
fund within that is an expenditure or a

1110
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:46,000
transfer to the capital and at that time

1111
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:48,600
in December you'll be approving that

1112
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:50,000
year's capital. So they will differ and

1113
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:53,000
will always will like what we do in

1114
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:54,360
August for 2027 will be definitely

1115
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:57,920
slightly different than what is you

1116
00:36:54,360 --> 00:37:00,480
adopt in December of 2026 slightly. And

1117
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:02,880
what actually gets bought in 2027

1118
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:04,720
will differ just based on costs and what

1119
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,800
we're able to do. We might not be able

1120
00:37:04,720 --> 00:37:07,360
to

1121
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:09,840
afford something we thought we could

1122
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:12,200
just simply because of inflation or the

1123
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:16,720
price adjustment which have wildly

1124
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:19,160
changed in particularly vehicles.

1125
00:37:16,720 --> 00:37:21,080
We've seen a fluctuation but just look

1126
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:22,760
at you all have experienced that with

1127
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:24,120
tariffs and some of the vehicles you

1128
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,360
might have bought 5 years ago and what

1129
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:26,400
you're paying for those same vehicles

1130
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:28,640
now is

1131
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:30,680
very different. So just to give you an

1132
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:33,840
idea of how we do all this.

1133
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:36,280
Public hearing, council action,

1134
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:38,080
the home rule charter contemplates that

1135
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:39,360
the ordinance is adopted by the you know

1136
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:41,400
before the end of September. We'd like

1137
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:42,760
you to be able to do it next week. If we

1138
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,520
can't do it next week, you know we can

1139
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:47,200
do it in September.

1140
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:48,800
And that's kind of it for my slides and

1141
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,920
the presentation Jared. You can turn

1142
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,360
that off

1143
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,520
or you can take any comments or

1144
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,800
» Well, I was going to say I was going to

1145
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:55,040
leave the public I like the public

1146
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:57,160
comment window in there because if

1147
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:58,680
anybody has any public comment

1148
00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:00,520
on that in this hearing, please feel

1149
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:03,600
free to

1150
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:05,640
step forward and voice them.

1151
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,360
Council, anything at this time?

1152
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:09,200
» No.

1153
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:13,600
» Yes. Yes, Mr. Williams.

1154
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:15,200
» I am extremely concerned about our money

1155
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:17,280
in Monroeville.

1156
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:20,120
If we run our households like most

1157
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:22,320
communities run their boroughs, we'd all

1158
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:24,440
we'll under a bridge.

1159
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:26,480
We need to watch the money. Right now,

1160
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,880
I'm I'm thrilled that Monroeville's

1161
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:30,080
debt-free.

1162
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:33,400
And and I intend to do my part to keep

1163
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:35,160
it that way. And uh, and then we need

1164
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:37,160
economic development. We got a lot of

1165
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:38,280
empty storefronts. And I don't know how

1166
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:40,600
we're going to do it, but we need

1167
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:42,800
somebody to take care of economic

1168
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:45,360
development and put these empty

1169
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:47,320
storefronts out there uh, so that people

1170
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:50,120
can see what Monroeville has and why

1171
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:51,000
it's a good place to have a business.

1172
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,920
Uh,

1173
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:55,680
next couple years are going to be tough.

1174
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:59,080
We're we're we're we're losing a lot of

1175
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:59,680
money with with uh, stores leaving. And

1176
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:02,400
uh,

1177
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:04,000
it it's just a concern. And in this new

1178
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:06,720
budget, uh, we're going to have to

1179
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:08,200
tighten up the purse strings. And uh,

1180
00:39:06,720 --> 00:39:11,040
every department's probably going to be

1181
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:13,680
hurting a little bit. Uh, but uh,

1182
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:15,880
I'm I'm I'm not for uh, going into debt

1183
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:19,120
and borrowing millions of dollars. And

1184
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:20,920
and that's where I stand. I thank you.

1185
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:23,920
» All right, Bob. Thank you.

1186
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,920
Anyone else on council?

1187
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,840
All right, we'll look forward to that.

1188
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:29,040
And I'm going to close that section of

1189
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:32,200
the public hearing for this evening. All

1190
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:32,200
right, thank you.

1191
00:39:32,720 --> 00:39:35,880
All right.

1192
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:37,400
I do want to read this. We always read

1193
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:39,200
this before most of our regular meetings

1194
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,840
and put this in place, too.

1195
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:42,400
Uh, as well that we want to have an

1196
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,800
announcement that we had an executive

1197
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,360
session uh,

1198
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,120
uh,

1199
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:47,800
this evening. Uh, council conducted an

1200
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:49,760
executive session on Thursday the the

1201
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:51,400
6th from um,

1202
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:53,720
6:00 p.m. to 7:00 p.m. to discuss our

1203
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:55,120
collective bargaining union negotiations

1204
00:39:53,720 --> 00:39:56,480
and the police policy wage policy

1205
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:58,400
committee and matters of attorney-client

1206
00:39:56,480 --> 00:40:00,160
privilege and legal advice related to

1207
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:02,480
those negotiations.

1208
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:04,720
Uh, council and any legislative action,

1209
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:06,440
if there if there is any, uh, will be

1210
00:40:04,720 --> 00:40:09,160
taken at the council meeting on Tuesday

1211
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:10,280
the 11th, 2026 or at some future public

1212
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,920
meeting.

1213
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:13,600
All right, just so we have that in the

1214
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:15,360
record.

1215
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:17,280
And as you see then item four for this

1216
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:19,080
evening, we'll review the take a look.

1217
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,800
Any questions from anyone on the

1218
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:21,880
proposed agenda?

1219
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,240
» Yep.

1220
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:24,880
» I'm sorry, did you miss the skip the

1221
00:40:23,240 --> 00:40:26,680
minutes?

1222
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,600
» I don't didn't remind myself of any

1223
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:28,440
minutes for on here today.

1224
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:29,760
» Yeah, so so

1225
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:30,600
» They're It's here. It's on the back. I

1226
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,240
got it for here.

1227
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:34,560
» Do you do that, too? And we'll have our

1228
00:40:32,240 --> 00:40:36,880
minutes be available on Tuesday, August

1229
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:39,280
11th.

1230
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:40,520
» I don't I didn't submit any minutes for

1231
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:42,200
approval this month.

1232
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:42,800
» Yeah, so if you know for July

1233
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:43,440
» It's not available.

1234
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,080
» Okay.

1235
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:45,520
» Feature me. Okay.

1236
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:46,040
» Yep.

1237
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:47,800
» Got it.

1238
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:50,520
» So just just for housekeeping purposes,

1239
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:51,240
we're reviewing next week's agenda.

1240
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:52,640
» That's correct.

1241
00:40:51,240 --> 00:40:54,400
» We've now entered, when we close the

1242
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,840
public hearing, is a regular workshop

1243
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:57,120
meeting, which is a little bit freer of

1244
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:59,560
a meeting. We'll be discussing next

1245
00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:01,080
week's agenda. And we're

1246
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:03,160
to the best of our ability showing you

1247
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:04,920
that agenda of how it will look next

1248
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:06,360
week. So when you get there, you'll be

1249
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,000
like, "Oh, I remember we talked about

1250
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:07,560
that last week."

1251
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,120
» That's correct.

1252
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:12,840
» We can move forward. So now, if you're

1253
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:13,360
following, you know, we would be on page

1254
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:14,120
five

1255
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:14,680
» Of 10.

1256
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:15,000
» 10.

1257
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:16,800
» Or we

1258
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:18,160
» Discuss those particular minutes, and

1259
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,800
then we'll discuss reports of the tax

1260
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:21,240
collectors as well. That's on there.

1261
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,880
That's included in our green section for

1262
00:41:21,240 --> 00:41:24,840
council that's in here. It's added on

1263
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:27,040
that. Discuss the list of bills and

1264
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:29,800
budgets and transfer in the payrolls and

1265
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:31,200
the CIP purchase order list

1266
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,960
for next week, as well.

1267
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:34,000
» So number seven is one that you want to

1268
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:35,240
give a lot of thought to.

1269
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,320
» We do.

1270
00:41:35,240 --> 00:41:36,800
Why don't you go into the background,

1271
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:37,600
Mr. Griffin?

1272
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,120
» All right. Thank you.

1273
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:41,120
» If you notice how thick your packet was

1274
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:44,000
this month, it's because we did get a

1275
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:46,400
report from our traffic engineer related

1276
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:48,240
to a petition that was submitted last

1277
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:50,640
fall. The way things work in

1278
00:41:48,240 --> 00:41:53,920
Monroeville, if you're concerned about

1279
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:57,000
speed or traffic uh in your community

1280
00:41:53,920 --> 00:42:00,680
being unsafe, you can petition council

1281
00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:02,480
to initiate a traffic calming study, and

1282
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:05,360
the residents along Logan Ferry

1283
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:07,240
submitted one of those back at the end

1284
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:09,960
of or at the end of the meeting back in

1285
00:42:07,240 --> 00:42:11,760
the first meeting of October 2025. That

1286
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:14,480
led to

1287
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:16,920
the report that's in your packet. On

1288
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:20,800
July 6th, 2026, the draft study found

1289
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:24,000
that the 85th percentile speed of 36 mph

1290
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:25,080
on a road that's posted 25 mph

1291
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,440
um

1292
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:28,760
identified potential speed humps,

1293
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:30,080
pavement marking enhancements, speed

1294
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:32,040
feedback signs for further

1295
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:33,920
consideration. The draft does not

1296
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:36,520
include construction costs or additional

1297
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:38,800
engineering fees. So, what you all need

1298
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:41,240
to do is, you know, receive the the

1299
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:42,920
study, review the study.

1300
00:42:41,240 --> 00:42:44,160
Um if you want to move forward, we're

1301
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:46,520
going to we would need some sort of a

1302
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:49,800
motion to advance

1303
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:52,400
uh the next step with HRG and getting

1304
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:54,120
into the construction costs

1305
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:56,480
and so forth. So, so you need to

1306
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:59,280
familiarize yourself and ask yourself as

1307
00:42:56,480 --> 00:43:01,200
a council, is this worth pursuing

1308
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:03,080
further or would you like to narrow the

1309
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:05,200
scope? For example, you might say, you

1310
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:08,000
know, we reviewed the study and we want

1311
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:10,120
the traffic warning signs, the speed

1312
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:12,000
feedback signs, you know, for example.

1313
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:14,400
And and we would get guidance on that

1314
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:16,440
and proceed with costs and figure that

1315
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:18,120
out and move forward. But right now

1316
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:20,240
we've done

1317
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:21,440
I think what we can do and and you'll

1318
00:43:20,240 --> 00:43:23,280
might need some time to review it. We

1319
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,600
might not be able to act next Tuesday,

1320
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:26,720
but at a future meeting you may decide

1321
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:28,200
to act based on this information.

1322
00:43:26,720 --> 00:43:29,440
Mr. Huggins is much more familiar with

1323
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:31,000
it than I am, especially with the

1324
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:33,000
history of how we even got the speed

1325
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:34,760
humps bumps. They're really not humps,

1326
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,760
they're more like bumps.

1327
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,160
They're not speed tables, that's for

1328
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,800
sure, on Logan's Ferry

1329
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:39,160
» Humps. By definition, they're speed

1330
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:40,030
humps.

1331
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:40,600
» So,

1332
00:43:40,030 --> 00:43:43,160
» [cough and clears throat]

1333
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:45,270
» If you have questions, he can answer

1334
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:46,200
them probably better than I could.

1335
00:43:45,270 --> 00:43:49,440
» [clears throat]

1336
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:50,720
» Mr. Washington, Mrs. Ramsey, this is

1337
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:54,040
runs in your neck of the woods. Any

1338
00:43:50,720 --> 00:43:56,280
questions for the staff right now?

1339
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:58,560
» Joe, what's your recommendation?

1340
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:59,960
» Well, the the the speed humps that are

1341
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:02,160
in place and all excuse [clears throat]

1342
00:43:59,960 --> 00:44:04,560
me, that was based on a traffic study

1343
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:07,440
that was done in 2008.

1344
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:10,960
That was prior to the construction of

1345
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:12,480
Maple Crest and the senior housing.

1346
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:14,360
So, that's really, you know, Mr.

1347
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:16,480
Pugliano came up and voiced his

1348
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:19,160
displeasure with traffic and speed and

1349
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:20,960
so forth. That's why this study was

1350
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:22,360
done. We took Yeah, there was a

1351
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:24,600
petition.

1352
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:26,640
There was a lot of you know, a lot of

1353
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:29,080
recommendations by the residents, by Mr.

1354
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:30,360
Pugliano. We took all those. All those

1355
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:32,680
recommendations were given to the

1356
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:34,800
traffic engineer to look at

1357
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:36,960
on that section of road. Um so, the

1358
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:39,320
original study was in 2008. It was kind

1359
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:42,000
of antiquated because we did not look at

1360
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:43,240
the area from Willow Hedge to Old

1361
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:45,120
Frankstown. And that's what we

1362
00:44:43,240 --> 00:44:46,720
concentrated on this time.

1363
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:49,360
Um part of the

1364
00:44:46,720 --> 00:44:51,480
part of the design restraints is is

1365
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:53,600
Locust Tree Road and you know, Mr.

1366
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:57,360
Pugliano was very adamant about speed

1367
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:59,360
humps on that slope. But, if the slope

1368
00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:00,720
is greater than 8 to 10%, you don't put

1369
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:02,360
speed humps on.

1370
00:45:00,720 --> 00:45:04,240
It's a recommendation that you don't do

1371
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:07,120
that. So, there's other things that you

1372
00:45:04,240 --> 00:45:09,400
can do which is in the report. But, you

1373
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:12,120
know, this specific recommendation shows

1374
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:15,440
that there four additional speed humps.

1375
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:17,000
Um you know, a traffic you know, similar

1376
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:20,000
to what you see on a lot of streets

1377
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:20,880
where it says your speed is blank, you

1378
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:23,720
know.

1379
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:25,840
Uh we we look at doing one of those.

1380
00:45:23,720 --> 00:45:27,600
Um now, that is an official traffic

1381
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:30,000
control device under PennDOT. You have

1382
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:32,036
to get a permit to install those.

1383
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:34,240
Um along with some other minor

1384
00:45:32,036 --> 00:45:36,440
[clears throat] recommendations. So,

1385
00:45:34,240 --> 00:45:38,880
you know, it's you know, it's definitely

1386
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:41,640
going to affect the traffic flow.

1387
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:43,800
So, you need to think about that.

1388
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:44,680
» All right.

1389
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,000
Questions from anyone else?

1390
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:47,000
» When you say traffic flow, what do you

1391
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,240
what do you mean?

1392
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,720
» I mean, to me you when you're traveling

1393
00:45:48,240 --> 00:45:51,480
that road, I mean, you're going to be

1394
00:45:49,720 --> 00:45:53,960
experiencing four additional speed

1395
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:56,240
humps. You're going to be experienced

1396
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:58,480
you know, basically rumble strips going

1397
00:45:56,240 --> 00:45:58,760
down Locust Tree Road or coming back up

1398
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:01,000
the

1399
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:01,320
» You said they weren't you You put speed

1400
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:03,320
humps on.

1401
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:04,920
» No, not on a slope.

1402
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:07,800
But they're showing four speed humps in

1403
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:08,840
totality. Two on the lower section of

1404
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:10,480
of

1405
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:12,400
of Logan's Ferry and two on the upper

1406
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,600
section. So, four additional speed

1407
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:15,560
humps,

1408
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:17,680
some rumble strips.

1409
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:19,680
» Would the rumble strips go on the slope?

1410
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:22,240
» Yes, they do. And that's the that's the

1411
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:24,440
trade-off to a speed hump on on a steep

1412
00:46:22,240 --> 00:46:26,120
slope.

1413
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:28,720
» With that amount of space out from

1414
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:30,560
Frankstown to

1415
00:46:28,720 --> 00:46:31,880
say Gary's house,

1416
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,800
one speed hump would probably be

1417
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:34,640
significant there.

1418
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,560
I mean

1419
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:38,960
» Well, based on the again, you know,

1420
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:40,960
based on the speeds and

1421
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:43,160
you know, the traffic volume, that's

1422
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:45,680
what was warranted.

1423
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:46,760
So, from old Frankstown to

1424
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,600
um

1425
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:49,720
the entrance to the Ezell plan, you

1426
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:51,440
know, you're looking at two additional

1427
00:46:49,720 --> 00:46:54,720
speed humps. Then you're going to go up

1428
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:55,720
slope over some rumble strips. You're

1429
00:46:54,720 --> 00:46:56,560
going to get to the top of the hill,

1430
00:46:55,720 --> 00:46:58,200
you're going to have two more speed

1431
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:59,840
humps.

1432
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:00,920
You know, so it's it's going to slow

1433
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:02,040
traffic down.

1434
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:03,680
» Did they do anything about any

1435
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:04,920
consideration concerning the flooding

1436
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:07,600
that's for that

1437
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:10,000
» That has not flooded.

1438
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:11,597
That has been rectified.

1439
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:11,640
» Good to hear.

1440
00:47:11,597 --> 00:47:13,200
» [snorts]

1441
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:15,440
» So, are they saying we have to choose

1442
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:16,160
between one of these three or we could

1443
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:17,760
do all three?

1444
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:19,320
» Well, this is what the recommendation is

1445
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:21,600
is in front of you.

1446
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:22,960
Now, you can pick and choose

1447
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:24,120
some or all or none.

1448
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:25,200
» We could modify

1449
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:26,400
» Sure, they recommend

1450
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:27,840
» Right. I'm sorry?

1451
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:28,680
» They're recommending all three of these

1452
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:29,360
measures?

1453
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:31,680
» Yes.

1454
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:31,680
» Okay.

1455
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:35,400
» And what we were suggesting was if you

1456
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:37,160
want us to advance, the next step would

1457
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:38,640
be get costs.

1458
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:40,360
» Cuz the one thing that came out jumped

1459
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:42,520
out to me was the traffic volumes on

1460
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:44,840
Logan's Ferry Road do not meet the 3,000

1461
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:46,640
vehicles per day or 300 vehicles per

1462
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:48,800
hour thresholds to warrant traffic

1463
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:50,000
calming measures.

1464
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,680
And then they're recommending

1465
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,400
» But that's based on classification of

1466
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:52,880
the road, though.

1467
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:54,360
» Okay.

1468
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:55,280
» You have to continue reading that

1469
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:57,400
section.

1470
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:57,400
» Okay.

1471
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:02,520
As far as the speed signs go, they've

1472
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:03,680
been talking about that for the last 10

1473
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:04,960
or 15 years.

1474
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:05,120
» Right. Well, something should be done

1475
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:06,600
there.

1476
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:07,240
» The speed signs aren't going to slow

1477
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:08,400
traffic.

1478
00:48:07,240 --> 00:48:10,200
» Can we go back to that now?

1479
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:10,548
» Kind of worked on in Pitcairn. I've seen

1480
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:11,680
them

1481
00:48:10,548 --> 00:48:13,200
» [clears throat]

1482
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:15,160
» Mr. Huges, can we can you help us

1483
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:17,040
understand the comment because I think

1484
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:20,480
what's confusing [clears throat] is the

1485
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:22,840
one talks about the volume but then the

1486
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:25,720
85% speeds

1487
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:27,840
then merit it. So, that's what the last

1488
00:48:25,720 --> 00:48:29,800
sentence based on vehicle speeds Logan's

1489
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:31,480
Ferry Road is applicable to traffic

1490
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:33,240
calming measures in accordance with the

1491
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:34,320
traffic calming policy. So, there's kind

1492
00:48:33,240 --> 00:48:36,800
of two things, you know, you're looking

1493
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:39,960
at volume but if that volume though it

1494
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:41,760
be low, for example, is traveling at

1495
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:43,000
that percent high,

1496
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:44,560
then you might want to consider it.

1497
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:44,840
That's Does that help you?

1498
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:46,960
» Yeah.

1499
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:46,960
» Yeah.

1500
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:55,120
» Anyone else?

1501
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:55,560
Any questions? Good.

1502
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:56,920
» Mike.

1503
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:58,320
» Okay.

1504
00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:59,560
All right, moving on. I'm just going to

1505
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:01,760
have Mr. Graziani read the next

1506
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:03,240
proposals for the that'll be the

1507
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:05,080
applications for consent development

1508
00:49:03,240 --> 00:49:06,520
application we'll be considering in your

1509
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:07,680
warrant section. Do you have

1510
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:09,160
» So, as was discussed at the hearing,

1511
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:10,760
basically, the applicant is requesting

1512
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:13,320
site plan approval pursuant to

1513
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:15,040
Monroeville Zoning Ordinance 27-79 as

1514
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:16,920
amended to permit the construction and

1515
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:19,080
operation of a drive-thru coffee shop

1516
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:20,600
business and associated amenities. As

1517
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:22,160
we've discussed, the property address is

1518
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:23,560
41-11

1519
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:27,080
William Penn Highway and is identified

1520
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:28,720
as tax parcel 743-H-040

1521
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:30,600
in the Boulevard Zoning District. The

1522
00:49:28,720 --> 00:49:31,880
Planning Commission recommends approval

1523
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:33,920
of this application and again, more

1524
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:36,440
information is in your packet.

1525
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:39,240
Related item is number nine. It's the

1526
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:41,040
Seven Brew Conditional Use Approval. So,

1527
00:49:39,240 --> 00:49:43,960
one's a site plan, one's a conditional

1528
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:47,440
use approval. Same information as we

1529
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:50,120
discussed before.

1530
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:52,240
And it's all in the agenda there.

1531
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:54,920
Lastly, would be the sewage planning

1532
00:49:52,240 --> 00:49:56,520
module for this development.

1533
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:58,920
And number 11 is the sewage planning

1534
00:49:56,520 --> 00:50:00,200
module for the car wash.

1535
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:02,920
» Okay.

1536
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:05,440
Any other questions on that, folks?

1537
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:06,280
Okay. Moving on, we've got the next

1538
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:07,920
resolution.

1539
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:10,840
» Yeah, so these are [clears throat] um

1540
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:12,920
related to the capital discussion. Um

1541
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:15,520
quite frankly, you know, if some of

1542
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:17,640
these are successful, since Dr. Lang has

1543
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:20,000
been here, she would have had a part in

1544
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:21,120
about a million dollars of grants

1545
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:22,600
additional grants coming into our

1546
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:24,280
community. We're we're trying to be as

1547
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:25,720
active as we can. We need capital

1548
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:27,200
improvement plans to be in place so we

1549
00:50:25,720 --> 00:50:28,520
can apply for grants. State wants to

1550
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:29,720
know, are you serious about getting this

1551
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:31,120
or doing this?

1552
00:50:29,720 --> 00:50:32,520
And as I mentioned, if we don't have the

1553
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:34,360
grant, we're not going to just go ahead

1554
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:36,400
and buy it. You know, it's sort of like

1555
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:38,720
a chicken and egg thing. You guys say

1556
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:40,960
you want to do it, we apply to get it,

1557
00:50:38,720 --> 00:50:42,480
they fund it, we do it. If they don't

1558
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:44,600
fund it, then we

1559
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:46,400
apply again, and try it another year.

1560
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:46,400
You know, just delay the project.

1561
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:48,080
» Revisit.

1562
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:51,240
» Yeah, revisit it. So, these are a couple

1563
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:52,840
grants. Um you can read those. You Some

1564
00:50:51,240 --> 00:50:54,520
of you are familiar with these programs.

1565
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:57,120
One of them that we're looking to get,

1566
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:58,360
the item 12, is the replace the turf

1567
00:50:57,120 --> 00:51:01,440
um

1568
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:04,960
at the baseball fields.

1569
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:08,360
And the next one is for the improvements

1570
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:08,360
that we're looking at Overlook Park.

1571
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:14,800
» Mhm.

1572
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:16,360
» So, any questions on those two projects?

1573
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:19,000
» What you're talking about was the

1574
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:20,680
Overlook Park was the turf replacement.

1575
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:22,640
Where's the artificial turf there?

1576
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:25,240
» The ball fields, the four ball fields at

1577
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:26,560
Community Park West are AstroTurf.

1578
00:51:25,240 --> 00:51:28,120
» AstroTurf, that's the old name.

1579
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:29,720
» We'll call it artificial.

1580
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:30,960
» The infields are AstroTurf, the

1581
00:51:29,720 --> 00:51:32,840
outfields are grass.

1582
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:33,600
» Okay, thank you.

1583
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:35,600
» And

1584
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:36,880
» How old is that turf?

1585
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:38,360
» I was trying to look at my records

1586
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:40,920
today, but I'm thinking it's probably

1587
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:42,360
about 10 10 to 12 years old, though.

1588
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:44,960
» Oh, I thought that happened since I've

1589
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:45,040
been on council. Hey, with the baseball

1590
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:46,440
field.

1591
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:47,400
» And it was originally paid for with a

1592
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:47,600
grant.

1593
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:49,680
» Right.

1594
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:51,320
» That's all the all the fields were the

1595
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:52,440
AstroTurf was put in.

1596
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:53,280
» Tremendous amount of use.

1597
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:55,040
» Yeah.

1598
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:56,440
» Is that about the lifespan for

1599
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:57,200
» Yes, we're getting to the limit of the

1600
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:59,520
lifespan.

1601
00:51:57,200 --> 00:52:00,480
» Okay.

1602
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:03,720
Okay.

1603
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:05,240
Turn it off. All right.

1604
00:52:03,720 --> 00:52:07,760
How does it Monroeville Baseball

1605
00:52:05,240 --> 00:52:09,880
contribute to any of that or is that all

1606
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:12,920
on the taxpayers?

1607
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:13,920
» As was mentioned, it was a grant before.

1608
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:15,680
Um

1609
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:17,440
and we were trying to seek a grant now

1610
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:19,240
and seek actually not only this one but

1611
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:21,680
we've been talking to visit Monroeville

1612
00:52:19,240 --> 00:52:23,440
about also support.

1613
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:25,520
Monroeville Baseball, if I understand

1614
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:27,000
it, we've talked for years about field

1615
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:29,000
use agreements

1616
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:30,120
and and and so forth and I think Council

1617
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:32,840
even got to the point where they were

1618
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:36,120
looking at charging an annual fee.

1619
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:38,280
Right, but there isn't right now. Um but

1620
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:39,920
they will apply as well and at times

1621
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:41,320
they've gotten grants to contribute to

1622
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:42,440
these and I don't know all the details,

1623
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:44,320
but for example, whether it's the

1624
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:47,000
scoreboard or something, because they're

1625
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:48,080
a nonprofit, you know, they sometimes

1626
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:51,320
can get grants that we wouldn't be

1627
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:53,200
eligible for and can get funds. So,

1628
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:54,960
they're a player, but I I can't tell you

1629
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:57,080
in this project or in the last project

1630
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:58,480
um they have and I see you you might

1631
00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:59,160
have an idea of how much they were in

1632
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:01,520
the last one.

1633
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:03,200
» No, I don't, but as a former president

1634
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:03,560
of the Baseball Association many years

1635
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:04,040
ago.

1636
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:07,040
» Yeah.

1637
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:09,080
» Um when my kids were younger. Um

1638
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:11,120
the the Monroeville Baseball Association

1639
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:11,560
is primarily Monroeville kids.

1640
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:14,640
» Yes.

1641
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:16,800
» So, the idea is they try to establish a

1642
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:20,120
budget whereby they get enough money to

1643
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:21,480
buy uniforms and um uh pay umpires and

1644
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:24,600
do that stuff and you know, there's

1645
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:26,240
contributions and people sponsor teams.

1646
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:28,600
And so they to keep the cost down of

1647
00:53:26,240 --> 00:53:31,000
playing baseball for

1648
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:33,440
kids that are citizens of the community,

1649
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:34,720
um that's a part we have that amenity

1650
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:36,560
there for them.

1651
00:53:34,720 --> 00:53:39,440
Um so, it would just be like somebody

1652
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:41,160
going to one of the other facilities and

1653
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:42,280
you know, we don't charge the fee to our

1654
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:42,960
residents for those.

1655
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:44,920
» Yeah.

1656
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:45,600
it's a similar issue, but they do try to

1657
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:46,880
get grants.

1658
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:48,360
» And they have been successful to get

1659
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:49,440
some scoreboard funding.

1660
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:51,040
» Yeah, and some other kinds of things,

1661
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:52,880
but

1662
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:54,680
I hope that helps, Mike.

1663
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:56,160
» Yeah, well, I'm just I

1664
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:57,880
I was just asking. I didn't know if they

1665
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:59,840
since they did get a grant for the

1666
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:01,120
scoreboard whether they had money left

1667
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:03,080
from that

1668
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:03,800
part of the

1669
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:05,480
» Well, I don't think so.

1670
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:07,880
» It always seems that all of us when we

1671
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:09,200
get a grant it's never enough.

1672
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:11,560
» Yeah, I don't think I don't know that it

1673
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:13,120
was enough money to I think it was like

1674
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:14,680
a sort of match thing. You know, you had

1675
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:16,800
to get money from somewhere else to to

1676
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:19,440
complete it, but it paid for a certain

1677
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:19,440
portion.

1678
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:21,960
» Okay.

1679
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:25,840
All right, moving along. Uh the next

1680
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:27,760
ordinance then as you can see on page

1681
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:29,200
nine, that's on the two that we'll act

1682
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:30,640
on next week is going to be I think we

1683
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:32,360
can short say that it's going to be an

1684
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:34,320
acting proven the adopting the capital

1685
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:35,960
improvement program. I don't think

1686
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:37,920
there's anything there that's unusual

1687
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:39,000
for us, but we'll talk about that.

1688
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:40,120
» I can just read the

1689
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:41,720
» If you would, please.

1690
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:43,600
» Some of it into the record. An ordinance

1691
00:54:41,720 --> 00:54:45,320
of the Municipality of Monroeville,

1692
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:47,840
Allegheny County, Pennsylvania approving

1693
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:50,000
and adopting the 2027 through 2031

1694
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:53,560
capital improvement program.

1695
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:55,720
Uh the proposed 2027 to 2031 capital

1696
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:59,680
improvement program identifies capital

1697
00:54:55,720 --> 00:54:59,680
projects totaling $28,121,592.95

1698
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:08,600
for the five years beginning January 1,

1699
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:10,320
2027 and ending December 31, 2031.

1700
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:13,320
The program also identifies

1701
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:13,320
$2,448,527.78

1702
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:20,280
in preliminary capital needs for the

1703
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:22,520
2032 informational and long-range

1704
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:25,960
planning purposes. The proposed capital

1705
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:28,960
improvement program for 2027 totals

1706
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:28,960
$4,890,476.

1707
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:32,960
» Great.

1708
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:35,440
» Excuse me for double-clutching there.

1709
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:36,360
» That's all right.

1710
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:37,680
There's a lot of humidity.

1711
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:39,800
» I put some of the 78 cents

1712
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:39,800
» Sir.

1713
00:55:41,720 --> 00:55:45,640
» All right, moving right along. Look at

1714
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:47,760
this, reports of municipal staff

1715
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:48,960
already. Wow, let's grab let's start

1716
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:50,880
with Mr. Ratcher.

1717
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:53,280
» I have nothing for you tonight.

1718
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:54,200
» Thank you, sir. Mr. Graziani.

1719
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:56,560
» Yeah, Jared, if you could just put up

1720
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:58,440
the slide. Obviously, I have a

1721
00:55:56,560 --> 00:56:00,760
um

1722
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:02,280
in your packet, my report. You know,

1723
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:03,720
just focusing on a lot of the things

1724
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:06,680
we've been up to.

1725
00:56:03,720 --> 00:56:08,960
The forecasting of budget is a big deal.

1726
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:11,440
You know, the 2027 to 2031, as I

1727
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:13,800
mentioned, the goal to have 20%

1728
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:16,640
at the beginning of the year 2032.

1729
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:18,000
Um you know, the the public works campus

1730
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:20,080
design

1731
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:21,360
sequencing is coming along. You know,

1732
00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:22,880
hopefully

1733
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:25,320
maybe September or October, we're making

1734
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:27,440
presentations related to that. We had an

1735
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:29,520
officer begin work at the beginning of

1736
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:31,000
July, and we had three recruits start in

1737
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:33,320
the academy.

1738
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:35,840
Um each department is beginning to

1739
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:37,120
include in your packets their reports.

1740
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:41,080
You can follow throughout the year what

1741
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:43,120
they're up to. Um we did a

1742
00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:44,520
new magazine, new newsletter that went

1743
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:46,480
to every resident. Now, that's been

1744
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:48,000
mentioned to earlier in July that went

1745
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:49,960
out, and we're focused on getting

1746
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:50,960
another one out in October.

1747
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:53,320
And then, as far as the mall

1748
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:56,040
redevelopment, that's a big deal, uh but

1749
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:57,840
we're kind of waiting at the developers'

1750
00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:59,120
ability to move forward.

1751
00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:00,440
They have a high interest in moving

1752
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:01,360
forward. When they're able to, they

1753
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:03,440
will.

1754
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:05,320
Until that time, we're in a holding

1755
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:06,880
pattern. Uh we do know that the

1756
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:09,720
Westinghouse

1757
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:11,840
campus has had a large announcement that

1758
00:57:09,720 --> 00:57:14,880
Bechtel will be moving from their

1759
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:18,760
current location at 2300 Technology

1760
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:21,440
Drive to the NextTier facility,

1761
00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:22,720
i.e., the former Westinghouse facility.

1762
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:24,160
By doing so, they're going to add

1763
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:25,760
another thousand employees. They have

1764
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:27,160
about a thousand in there now, and

1765
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:29,160
they'll be looking to add about another

1766
00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:30,680
thousand, which would for the most part

1767
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:32,920
fully occupy by old Westinghouse

1768
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:35,320
facility. However,

1769
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:37,600
we need to find by 2029

1770
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:39,600
a tenant. And back to Mr. Williams'

1771
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:41,440
comment about economic development, Mr.

1772
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:43,080
Wilden and I have met several times with

1773
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:45,520
the current owner, Technology Drive

1774
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:48,120
Elmhurst is the the company that has the

1775
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:51,040
property off of Jameson Lane. And um

1776
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:52,360
they've begun marketing it aggressively,

1777
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:55,760
including meeting with the Lieutenant

1778
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:57,680
Governor and regional economic

1779
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:59,160
development people because

1780
00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:00,960
they know that the clock is ticking on

1781
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:03,160
them and they don't want to have a month

1782
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:04,600
without rent. You can understand, you

1783
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:06,880
know, you'd be hopefully in the same

1784
00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:08,560
boat. Uh so, we're we're working with

1785
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:10,920
them to make sure we're all on the same

1786
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:12,680
page of what potential users might find

1787
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:14,720
their way. They have a very nice

1788
00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:17,040
building there. Many of you recall they

1789
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:20,160
did a significant investment in 2019 or

1790
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:22,080
so to remodel that facility, so it's

1791
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:24,240
ready to be remarketed and they've begun

1792
00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:25,160
even though it's 3 years out before

1793
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:26,760
they'll

1794
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:28,600
have a vacancy there. So, hopefully that

1795
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:30,480
won't happen. That was just my report.

1796
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:32,040
Uh other reports is is I mentioned are

1797
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:34,440
in your packet. Please, if you have

1798
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:35,560
questions, let me know. Um willing to

1799
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:37,680
spend time to, you know, walk you

1800
00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:39,160
through those issues.

1801
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:41,880
» Did it?

1802
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:43,400
» Some. Okay.

1803
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:45,360
MK, anything for you?

1804
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:47,160
» Thank you, Mr. Poach. I do have just a

1805
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:49,000
brief something to add. So, we're

1806
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:51,320
working on the CIP

1807
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:54,080
and uh also starting the budget

1808
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:56,360
narratives and the budget numbers going

1809
00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:58,240
into late summer here.

1810
00:58:56,360 --> 00:59:00,680
And I just wanted to note that we're

1811
00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:02,240
going to be working on

1812
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:04,640
the budget narratives in a way that it

1813
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:06,360
kind of develops into a more like

1814
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:07,920
strategic plan.

1815
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:10,240
And the reason that we're doing that is

1816
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:12,520
because grants have become more and more

1817
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:13,840
competitive and what and I've been

1818
00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:16,120
finding that when we're writing these

1819
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:17,680
grants, that they want to know, "Okay,

1820
00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:19,560
this is a great project, but did you

1821
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:21,920
plan for it or did you just pull it out

1822
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:23,600
of a hat?" Uh so, we're work the team's

1823
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:25,600
working really hard to

1824
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:28,400
connect our project needs from the CIP

1825
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:30,640
and other areas into grant funding.

1826
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:32,760
And just with the CIP we passed last

1827
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:35,640
year coming into this year,

1828
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:37,800
we were awarded, this does not count any

1829
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:40,320
of Mr. Huggins' awesome road grants over

1830
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:41,960
there, but for parks and rec and some

1831
00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:43,520
other smaller grants, we were awarded

1832
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:45,560
$318,000

1833
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:49,120
in 2025.

1834
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:50,880
We were also awarded 150,000 already in

1835
00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:53,080
2026.

1836
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:55,680
We have a pending award that should be

1837
00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:56,920
announced in September for 200,000 for

1838
00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:58,560
LSA.

1839
00:59:56,920 --> 01:00:00,480
And before you tonight and a few other

1840
00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:02,880
ones that are due this month, that would

1841
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:05,000
equal a total 425,000

1842
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:06,600
dollars in grant submissions. So, in a

1843
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:08,040
2-year period,

1844
01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:10,120
we

1845
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:12,080
almost will receive about a million

1846
01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:13,800
dollars in grant funding.

1847
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:15,720
» Well done. Thank you.

1848
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:16,800
Anything else?

1849
01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:17,280
Is that it?

1850
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:18,960
» Yes, thank you.

1851
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:21,600
» Okay. Thank you.

1852
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:22,720
Appreciate it. You too.

1853
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:27,080
Mr. Huggins.

1854
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:27,760
» Yes, the Hawkeye Park play facility is

1855
01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:28,560
completed.

1856
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:29,000
» Yeah.

1857
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:29,640
» Finally.

1858
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:31,400
» I heard that.

1859
01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:33,480
» Pretty big project. Looks very nice.

1860
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:35,040
They did a great job, public works, and

1861
01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:36,280
all the construction

1862
01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:38,120
for it.

1863
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:39,800
So, if you get a chance, go look at it.

1864
01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:40,560
» I actually somebody [clears throat] at

1865
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:42,680
um

1866
01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:44,480
National Night Out on Tuesday actually

1867
01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:46,680
said that to me, too. They there and

1868
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:48,200
thought it was was looked great,

1869
01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:48,320
too. I forgot I'm glad you brought that

1870
01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:49,720
up.

1871
01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:51,600
» This is the second one that public works

1872
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:52,980
has has undertaken. We're going to do

1873
01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:54,920
try to do one a year as long as we

1874
01:00:52,980 --> 01:00:57,000
[clears throat] have funding to it. So,

1875
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:59,240
we're moving on to the next one,

1876
01:00:57,000 --> 01:01:00,080
which will probably be Overlook.

1877
01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:01,280
» Okay.

1878
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:03,000
All right.

1879
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:03,960
Thank you, Paul.

1880
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:05,120
Josie.

1881
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:06,800
» Uh nothing.

1882
01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:09,040
» All right. Thank you. Well, you're

1883
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:10,160
you're saving up his budgets and capital

1884
01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:13,520
you're you're saving up.

1885
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:15,720
» Yeah, I'm I'm working with uh

1886
01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:17,080
Dr. Liang and uh

1887
01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:18,080
Alex

1888
01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:21,200
on

1889
01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:24,160
the budget and the CIP program.

1890
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:26,382
» As always looking forward to it.

1891
01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:26,400
To budget hearing season.

1892
01:01:26,382 --> 01:01:27,560
» [clears throat]

1893
01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:31,120
» Mr. Sellick.

1894
01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:32,640
» Yeah, just FYI, the surplus auction last

1895
01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:34,320
month, we had a recycling truck that we

1896
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:36,400
had to pull back because of a title

1897
01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:39,720
issue. Well, we put it up for bid again

1898
01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:42,240
and we got a little over $6,000 for it.

1899
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:44,440
So, total for the surplus auction was

1900
01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:45,440
$125,000.

1901
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:46,000
We did pretty well.

1902
01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:46,440
» That's pretty good.

1903
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:47,400
» So, yeah.

1904
01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:47,520
» You didn't normally get it. That's

1905
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:49,480
pretty

1906
01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:49,920
» Did really well this time, so. That's

1907
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:51,000
all I have.

1908
01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:51,280
» Garage sale, thank you.

1909
01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:52,720
» Yeah.

1910
01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:54,320
» Thanks, Jeff, too.

1911
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:55,880
All right, reports of council members.

1912
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:56,480
Mrs. Ramsey, let's start over here

1913
01:01:55,880 --> 01:01:57,040
today.

1914
01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:59,920
» Nothing.

1915
01:01:57,040 --> 01:02:01,120
» Nothing else to say? Mr. Williams.

1916
01:01:59,920 --> 01:02:04,160
» Now, Mrs. Weiss did [clears throat]

1917
01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:06,600
contact me on that missing L down there

1918
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:08,680
by Bob's Furniture. And I personally

1919
01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:11,320
went down there and looked for it.

1920
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:13,720
It was not there. And I wouldn't take it

1921
01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:15,960
too much effort to make a wooden L or

1922
01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:18,600
something to put it on there. I I talked

1923
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:20,720
to Tim Little, who is with the Rotary.

1924
01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:22,080
And he mentioned he was going to talk to

1925
01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:25,400
Alex, whether you ever did or not, I

1926
01:02:22,080 --> 01:02:28,640
don't know. But but I think $150,000

1927
01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:32,560
is overkill for a sign welcoming people

1928
01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:33,880
to Monroeville. As far as a billboard

1929
01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:35,920
that's an enormous thing. There's

1930
01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:37,440
already a billboard right there and I

1931
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:40,440
don't even know how that would conflict

1932
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:42,120
with that. But but she did contact me

1933
01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:43,680
and I did go down and look at it.

1934
01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:43,920
» Mr. Williams, can I interrupt you?

1935
01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:45,920
» Mhm.

1936
01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:48,080
» It is on public works to do list to do

1937
01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:50,000
some minor renovations to that sign.

1938
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:50,920
» Okay, thank you. Thank you.

1939
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:52,200
» Gotten to it yet.

1940
01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:54,320
» Mhm.

1941
01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:56,400
Uh another thing is uh

1942
01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:58,520
Walmart.

1943
01:02:56,400 --> 01:03:00,360
We have no clue what they're doing. They

1944
01:02:58,520 --> 01:03:01,720
have no clue what they're doing. And as

1945
01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:04,240
you know, Georgiana, being on the

1946
01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:06,800
planning commission, there's a process.

1947
01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:08,520
The process is if they

1948
01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:11,240
do demolition, they got to come and get

1949
01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:14,040
a permit where they're putting that

1950
01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:15,560
uh scrap. The second thing is, when they

1951
01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:17,440
get plans, they go to the planning

1952
01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:19,400
commission or not the planning

1953
01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:21,400
commission but the building department

1954
01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:23,360
and they go over it. Then they go to the

1955
01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:25,720
planning commission. Then it comes to

1956
01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:28,000
council. They really have no obligation

1957
01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:29,960
to meet with us or the public or anybody

1958
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:31,440
until the process

1959
01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:33,760
gets moving.

1960
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:35,200
The third thing is our volunteer

1961
01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:38,200
firemen.

1962
01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:40,720
It's just heartbreaking that nobody

1963
01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:43,280
volunteers and it's every volunteer fire

1964
01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:46,440
department in the state, I believe, that

1965
01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:48,360
that needs people. Get off your iPads

1966
01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:50,560
and your cell phones and get out there

1967
01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:53,560
and see what our men and women do in the

1968
01:03:50,560 --> 01:03:55,520
volunteer fire departments. Take a tour

1969
01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:58,880
and it might change your mind and maybe

1970
01:03:55,520 --> 01:04:01,120
volunteer in a few hours a week. So,

1971
01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:03,600
give it a shot. They would appreciate

1972
01:04:01,120 --> 01:04:04,720
it. Municipality would appreciate it and

1973
01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:06,320
that's all I have.

1974
01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:07,040
» Thank you. Thank you, Bob.

1975
01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:07,840
» Nothing.

1976
01:04:07,040 --> 01:04:09,320
» Nothing tonight.

1977
01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:10,680
» Okay. Mr. Krantz.

1978
01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:12,360
» Nothing, thank you.

1979
01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:13,800
» Oh, backwards to me. I have nothing else

1980
01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:15,720
to add for this evening.

1981
01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:16,800
» I'm good, thank you, sir.

1982
01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:19,160
» I'm good, too, sir.

1983
01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:21,240
» All right, thank you, as well. Okay,

1984
01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:22,480
folks, there's nothing else. I entertain

1985
01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:23,080
a motion to

1986
01:04:22,480 --> 01:04:24,040
» To adjourn.

1987
01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:25,880
» Motion to adjourn.

1988
01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:29,280
» Second. All in favor?

1989
01:04:25,880 --> 01:04:29,280
Aye. Thank you. We are adjourned.