[0:00] You bet, Mr. Mayor. [0:02] » Good evening, everyone, and welcome to [0:04] Minerva Citizens Night for August 6th, [0:06] 2026. [0:08] I call the meeting to order. Uh to do [0:10] that, if you please, uh please rise for [0:13] Pledge of Allegiance and a moment of [0:14] silence. [0:15] » I pledge allegiance to the flag of the [0:18] United States of America and to the [0:20] republic for which it stands, one nation [0:23] under God, indivisible, with liberty and [0:25] justice for all. [0:43] » And please be seated. [0:45] First of all, as Mrs. Macindoe always [0:47] reminds me, make sure, please, if you [0:49] would, folks, please silence [0:52] your cell phones, which I forgot to on [0:53] my other one, as well. [0:55] You don't mind. [1:01] There we go. [1:06] Mrs. Macindoe, roll call, please, [1:07] please. [1:08] » Mayor [snorts] Biondo, Mr. Hizzy, [1:10] » Here. [1:11] » Mr. Poach, [1:11] » Here. [1:12] » Mr. Washington, [1:13] » Here. [1:13] » Mr. Crut, [1:14] » Here. [1:14] » Mr. Adams, [1:15] » Here. [1:16] » Mr. Williams, [1:16] » Here. [1:17] » Mrs. Ramsey, [1:18] » Here. [1:18] » Mr. Graziani, [1:19] » Here. [1:20] » Mr. Ratcher, [1:20] » Here. [1:21] » Mr. Rock, [1:22] » Here. [1:22] » Mr. Hughes, [1:23] » Here. [1:24] » Mr. [clears throat] Lack, [1:25] » Here. [1:25] » Mr. Weldon, [1:26] » Here. [1:26] » Mrs. Lang, [1:27] » Here. [1:29] » All right, good evening, everyone. [1:31] Welcome nice warm evening this evening, [1:33] a pleasant. [1:35] So, we're going to go through our our [1:37] normal citizens night agenda that we [1:38] start with. We're going to have some [1:39] citizens remarks and comments, as well. [1:42] Just a continued reminder on normal [1:44] rules. Have been there 5 You need to A [1:46] be signed in and document that you are a [1:47] Minerva resident in there. Please, when [1:50] you come up, state you are a Minerva [1:52] resident, as well, so we have that for [1:54] the record to do that. Have a 5-minute [1:57] time frame for that. My colleague, Mr. [1:59] Hizzy, brought his outside voice this [2:01] evening. He'll remind me of the 1-minute [2:03] time frame and as well Mr. Graziani try [2:05] to keep that so that you can help allow [2:07] everyone else to have time to speak as [2:09] well. To do that, so let's first see if [2:11] we have anyone is due this evening for [2:14] any remarks or comments. [2:19] Please enter and sign in first and make [2:21] sure you're signed in. State your name [2:23] for the record. [2:24] » Jordan Woodhall [2:26] Monroeville resident [2:28] At the last meeting I had asked if each [2:31] member of um [2:33] council could get a hold of either [2:36] Cypress or Walmart [2:38] since I have failed and Lois Drahm [2:41] Haller up until the beginning of the [2:43] meeting also failed to get any response. [2:46] So, I wanted to know um if you had [2:48] gotten in touch with anybody. [2:51] And if so, if you could [2:53] report what's going on. [2:54] » Okay, our point of contact is usually [2:56] the manager for those things. Mr. [2:57] Graziani, have you had any interesting [3:00] comments or back from them? [3:01] » Nothing has changed uh Walt Walmart [3:03] Cypress as a group are trying to [3:06] finalize deals with the existing [3:08] leaseholders at the mall property and [3:12] it's not an easy process. They have the [3:14] most incentive to be done with that and [3:16] move on to actually executing [3:19] and submitting plans for our approval [3:21] and getting a building built and store [3:23] opened. [3:24] » Okay. [3:24] » However, they're not haven't been [3:26] successful to get to that point. So, [3:28] we're all in a waiting pattern [3:30] you know, till they're able to settle [3:32] with all of the various interests that [3:34] still have [3:36] you know, a [3:37] a lease if you will or or rights. [3:39] » Okay, well, I have walked that mall [3:41] since they took ownership [3:42] [clears throat] [3:43] of the mall. [3:44] And there are few residents, I mean, few [3:48] tenants left there. [3:50] And they are left clueless as to what's [3:53] going on. Most of them have lawyered up [3:56] um [3:58] for obvious reasons. But they're not [4:00] getting any answers. [4:02] And you know, I want to keep us a [4:04] positive attitude because you know, at [4:07] first I said I have no use for Walmart. [4:09] I [4:10] But [4:11] actually right now I feel like I hit the [4:14] jackpot because I'm looking at the big [4:16] picture [4:17] and we have billion-dollar Walmart in [4:20] front of us. [4:21] So to me [4:23] uh one of the [4:25] things that I wanted more than anything [4:28] was to have the veterans something done [4:31] for the veterans and first responders. [4:34] And looking up there, I can't thank you [4:36] enough for your service [4:38] to our community. [4:39] And um [4:41] I do want to say before [4:44] I lose too much time is I attended the [4:46] first community night out at the park [4:49] National Night Out. And it was one of [4:53] the most fulfilling and amazing uh [4:55] experiences that I've ever witnessed. [4:58] Just the children alone to see how [5:00] thrilled they are and how much respect [5:02] they have for responders and and our [5:04] police is is just an incredible thing. [5:06] It's hard to put into words. Um what I [5:08] wanted to do is one of in particular [5:11] tenant at the mall. He's been in the [5:13] mall 34 years. So Cole's Shop [5:17] Gen X top clothing store in Monroe for [5:20] 2026. [5:21] And I don't want to I mean, I could read [5:23] this into the record. Um I'll leave a [5:26] copy with you. He's been there 34 years [5:29] and he is left clueless. He is paying [5:32] um [5:34] there's no foot traffic whatsoever [5:35] there. None at all. Not for any of these [5:38] stores. Not him. Uh Spector Dulce's [5:41] gone. [5:43] Um [5:43] I've been in Time and Space. I've been [5:46] you know, taking trying to buy some [5:48] things at the uh kiosk at the mall and [5:52] there is absolutely most people think [5:54] our mall is closed. [5:57] And it it's really a sad sad situation. [6:01] So I'm going to ask again if [6:04] you people would reach out [6:06] and try and find out what's going on. [6:08] I'm going to submit this to you. [6:10] » Yep. [6:11] » Thank you. [6:11] » Give it to Sharon, yep. [6:13] All right. Thank you, ma'am. I [6:14] appreciate it and and it's very Oh, [6:16] sorry. [6:17] » Also, I just want to read part of this. [6:20] It says [6:21] we are pleased to inform you that So [6:22] Cool Gen X has been officially [6:24] recognized as a top five of 2025 in [6:27] Monroeville award winning in the [6:29] clothing store category. An honor based [6:31] on verified data from Google reviews as [6:34] analyzed and certified by Business Rate [6:36] Business Rate provides an [6:39] Are you serious, Izzy? [6:40] » Yeah, we got it. [6:41] » Yep. That's what we were told we [6:42] » Okay. Okay. Well, you know, congrats it [6:43] says congratulations again for this [6:45] outstanding achievement earned not by [6:48] application or nomination, but by the [6:50] authentic feedback of your own [6:52] customers. [6:53] So I mean this is the type of people and [6:56] this particular [6:58] man [6:59] that one day I went in there, he had a [7:01] veteran working for him. He just had to [7:03] step out and he had a young man that had [7:06] did I think two tours of duty in [7:08] Afghanistan who he [7:11] you know, tries to help out. My goal as [7:14] I said with Mall Mark is to get them [7:17] either with Wounded Warriors or Tunnel [7:20] to Towers to do something either on the [7:22] property or off the property. And one of [7:25] my suggestions was to get rid of these [7:27] flea bag hotels that we have that are [7:29] nothing but nuisance hotels. [7:32] Crime. People have been murdered in [7:34] these places. So get rid of them. [7:36] They're a nuisance. You can get rid of a [7:37] nuisance bar, get rid of a nuisance [7:39] hotel. Put something there for for our [7:42] veterans and our first responders. [7:44] » All right. [7:44] » Thank you. Thank you, ma'am. [7:46] Thank you for your kind comments about [7:48] Burke's right out. By all means, ma'am. [7:50] Please, have you entered sign in, state [7:52] your name, and sign in, state your [7:53] » In. My name is Cheryl Boyce. I live on [7:56] Turnpike Gardens in Monroeville, and I'm [7:58] here as a taxpayer. I'm glad you brought [8:00] up the mall cuz I'm going to [8:02] briefly just talk about that. Um next [8:04] week, Wednesday, 5:30 CCAC, [8:08] uh we're going to have another meeting [8:10] with Allegheny County Council about the [8:14] assessments. [8:15] » Mhm. [8:15] » My question to you is, because my [8:17] husband and I have been researching that [8:19] as long-time taxpayers in this area, [8:22] you know, there's the loop program [8:23] versus a homestead exclusion, the [8:26] waterfall laws, all that kind of good [8:28] stuff that when you start researching [8:31] it, there's a lot of questions. So, my [8:33] question to all of you is, [8:35] are they reaching out to the [8:37] municipalities, [8:39] also getting input, and talking to each [8:42] of you about the impact eventually down [8:45] the road as they're working through this [8:47] process. What is the communication [8:49] between the county and you? Is there any [8:52] at all on that? [8:52] » I'll let you finish, then I can I'll [8:54] speak to that. Go ahead. [8:55] » Um and so far as the mall goes, because [8:58] we're doing two things in Monroeville [8:59] simultaneously. We're having the [9:01] reassessments, which to be honest with [9:03] you, my house is now worth four times [9:05] what it was when we first bought here 35 [9:07] years ago. My family's lived here 80 [9:09] years. So, a lot of changes. But, one of [9:13] my concerns is today, we took a little [9:15] hike out uh to Westmoreland County [9:19] because my husband, who has been a [9:20] Dick's Sporting Goods [9:22] uh customer forever, [9:24] got a notice that they opened their new [9:26] megastore on Route 30. [9:28] » Right. [9:28] » Um unless they put one in Monroeville, [9:31] we can't compete. [9:32] And I know these stores are leaving, [9:34] leaving, leaving. That's a huge thing. [9:37] I mean, Route 30 is not that far from [9:39] here. We walked [clears throat] through [9:40] that store, climbing walls, batting [9:42] cages, all this stuff double what's here [9:46] in Monroeville. So, as we're arguing [9:49] also and discussing assessments, we're [9:52] sitting here with the mall, and she's [9:54] right, what's going on with with the [9:56] mall as people are leaving. I mean, [10:00] Dick's just opened this this weekend. [10:03] It's you can't believe the parking lot. [10:05] So, what's going to happen? Um I'm a [10:07] little concerned about that and how [10:09] that's going to impact us all. So, if [10:11] you could just address specifically the [10:14] county and how they're communicating [10:17] what's going to happen. Are we going to [10:19] have public meetings in Monroeville with [10:21] you guys once they figure out how we're [10:24] going to proceed with all of this. [10:26] » Okay. [10:28] Anything else? [10:28] » Mr. Poch, you're on. [10:29] » Well, I was Do you have any You have [10:31] some time? That's [10:32] I'll I'll I'll steal your last 2 seconds [10:35] minutes and a while. In [10:37] uh my role in the League of [10:37] Municipalities as well, the answer to [10:39] your question is, and much to our [10:41] chagrin, no. They haven't reached out to [10:44] us. And we have as the the Board of [10:45] Directors of the League of [10:46] Municipalities has written letters like, [10:49] "Hey folks, how about talk to us?" So, [10:51] it's not a very pleasant piece that, but [10:53] we're still not finished with that. [10:54] We've directed the um [10:56] the executive director of that group to [10:58] continue to reach out and say, "Hey, [11:00] guys are scheduling meetings, don't [11:01] forget to talk to your local officials." [11:03] So, [11:05] I would [11:06] suggest you speak to your county council [11:08] representative. Is that right, Michelle? [11:10] Is that right? [11:10] » She doesn't respond. [11:12] » Okay. [11:12] » But, we're going to Some of us are going [11:14] to go down there on Wednesday and have a [11:16] little conversation with them because [11:19] they represent us. And I think sometimes [11:20] county council fails to realize that cuz [11:23] we don't always go down and bother them. [11:25] I think it's time to bother them. [11:27] So, we'll see what happens. [11:28] » Thank you for your effort. I appreciate [11:30] it. [11:30] » I'm not going to let it go, but thank [11:32] you very much. And when you do get an [11:33] update about the mall, please, because [11:36] she's right. When you walk through [11:38] there, [11:38] » We know. [11:39] » It looks like the valley of the dead. [11:41] So, thank you very much. [11:43] » We've had zombies there before. [11:46] » [laughter] [11:46] » I had to get a zombie joke in. [11:48] Had to get a zombie joke in, too. Hi, [11:50] good evening. [11:51] » Hi. [11:51] » And please state your name for the [11:52] record. I'm sorry, again, please? [11:54] » My name is Adrienne Weiss, and I'm a [11:55] Monroeville resident. Would you like me [11:57] to sign in, ma'am? [11:58] » And I have signed in previously. [12:02] There used to be a way to [12:04] show you [12:04] » You can [12:05] there Well, wasn't There's a rough X [12:07] still right in the middle of it. Now, [12:08] put it on the ground. [12:10] » Yes. [12:11] » So, when driving eastbound on 22, [12:15] this sign is [12:16] near the road in front of Bob's [12:19] Furniture. [12:20] And there's an L that fell off. So, it [12:23] looks like Monroeville. [12:26] » Oh, okay. [12:27] » This is very bad, and I talked with Mr. [12:30] Wilson about the [12:31] » I I'd be I'd be a lap but I'm sorry I [12:33] drew a pa- I didn't see that. [12:34] » And and some people would say it is vile [12:37] how there's so many empty buildings and [12:39] and, you know, what do we have to show [12:41] for that Monroeville is so great. [12:44] And back in the day, when Tim Little was [12:47] here and I had said right in your front [12:52] that thing it said [12:53] municipal building, because the M fell [12:57] off of your sign in front of this [12:58] building. [12:59] » [laughter] [13:00] » I used to be a proofreader and [13:01] advertising writer and and so forth, and [13:03] I'm an author and all that. But, [13:06] proofreading is one of my things. So, [13:08] when I saw this sign, [13:10] I asked about it. [13:12] Mr. Williams said, "Oh, it's going to be [13:14] like a $15,000." [laughter] [13:17] I think he quoted me. And [13:20] but that it was going to be [13:21] » [laughter] [13:21] » Not a municipal expense from your [13:25] budget, it or [13:27] improvements or whatnot, it was going to [13:29] be Rotary. [13:30] » Yes, the Rotary. [13:30] » I went to a Rotary meeting and I learned [13:34] that this sign would cost $150,000 [13:39] and it would be the sign of a of a size [13:41] of a billboard and electronic like what [13:44] you have at 2248 [13:46] uh intersection, only much bigger like [13:49] and you would need a variance and and [13:51] you need a way to get to it and there's [13:54] no way to get to it right now. [13:56] If this becomes a Monroeville capital [13:59] improvement budget expense instead of a [14:02] Rotary expense, [14:04] uh I think, you know, everybody is going [14:06] to go like, [14:07] "Why do we need a giant sign like that [14:10] and electronic and not even solar [14:12] powered but on the grid, another expense [14:16] for the municipality [14:18] to have an electric bill [14:20] up'd with this thing?" And really we [14:23] just need the L put on there for now. [14:26] And it could take several years before [14:29] they could do this whole variance and [14:31] and excavation and and the property [14:34] belongs to some fellow uh that parcel. [14:37] So, there's just all these things that [14:40] have to do with it that sort of upset [14:43] me. It's like, "Why can't you just get [14:45] another L?" Somebody did inspect that it [14:48] wasn't on the ground outside. They don't [14:51] know where it is. Just [14:53] you know, you're we're we're not [14:54] welcoming people to Monroeville. [14:57] It's not a good sign. [14:59] » Well, so not not to channel my best Pat [15:02] Sajak, Alex, can you find out getting us [15:04] an L? Okay. I will do the best we can, [15:07] Mayor. I I don't mean to make light of [15:08] it, too, but we'll we'll see what's [15:09] going on with that, too. [15:10] » The M you got for the municipal building [15:12] » Yeah, that was our that was our M, yeah. [15:14] » It's not the same thickness. [15:16] » I understand. I know. [15:17] » It was upsetting to me, too. It's like, [15:19] "Couldn't you match it or just get all [15:21] new letters?" But [15:22] » Can Can you be sure you give give me [15:24] your Send an email to the manager to [15:25] make sure that he has your email address [15:26] and then a follow-up with the two. Okay. [15:28] » Yeah, there has to be an easement. It [15:30] could take 5 to 6 years from what I [15:32] learned and so forth. [15:34] » Thank you, ma'am. [15:34] » Okay. [15:36] Do you want this? [15:38] » I don't feel vile enough this evening, [15:39] but that's okay. [15:41] » Thank you. [15:42] » It's not very welcoming. [15:43] » No, no, it's not. It's not. [15:46] » I better not have any more caffeine [15:47] before I come to me. [15:49] Okay. [15:51] » Hi, good evening. [15:53] My name is Mallory Grants. I do live on [15:54] Monroeville Boulevard. [15:56] » Did you sign in, ma'am? [15:57] » Yes, I did. [15:57] » Mhm. [15:58] » Sure did. Uh and I spoke last uh [16:00] citizens night a few weeks ago about [16:02] trust, transparency, and community [16:04] engagement. So, tonight I'd like to talk [16:05] briefly about consistency. [16:08] A few weeks ago, the Monroeville Public [16:09] Library promoted a children's [cough] [16:11] program called Faith and Fossils: Adam's [16:14] Pet Velociraptor, which presented a [16:16] young Earth Christian perspective, [16:18] including the belief that humans and [16:19] dinosaurs lived together. I am not here [16:22] I'm not here to criticize the library [16:24] for hosting this event or promoting it. [16:27] Public libraries serve diverse [16:29] communities and community members should [16:30] be free to organize programs that [16:33] reflect a variety of viewpoints and [16:34] interests. Now, on Facebook, some [16:36] residents agreed with the program, [16:37] others disagreed, and some questioned [16:39] whether it belonged in the library at [16:40] all. And all of these reactions were [16:42] perfectly reasonable in a free and open [16:45] society. [16:46] What struck me was not the program [16:47] itself. What struck me was the response. [16:50] The residents discussed it, they debated [16:52] it, they shared their opinions, and some [16:53] defended it, some challenged it, and [16:56] many pointed out what they saw as [16:57] hypocrisy in previous community debates. [17:00] But overwhelmingly, the conversation [17:02] centered on the ideas themselves. [17:04] I did not see demands the library remove [17:07] the event. I did not see calls to punish [17:09] the library for allowing it. [17:11] I did not see the public suggest that [17:13] the library's funding should be [17:15] threatened because some residents [17:17] disagreed with the message being [17:18] presented. And I certainly did not see [17:21] elected officials publicly questioning [17:24] whether the library should be permitted [17:26] to offer the program at all. [17:28] That, in my view, is exactly what our [17:30] residents should expect from our elected [17:32] officials moving forward. I hope this [17:34] approach continues next June and in [17:36] every future conversation about our [17:38] public library. Council members, like [17:40] every resident, are absolutely entitled [17:42] to their own personal opinions and [17:44] religious beliefs, but those beliefs [17:46] should not outweigh the professional [17:48] judgment of the librarians our community [17:50] has hired to do this work. Our [17:52] librarians have specialized education, [17:54] training, and experience in library [17:56] science, intellectual freedom, [17:58] collection development, and serving [17:59] diverse communities. Their expertise in [18:02] these matters exceeds that of most of us [18:05] in this room, mine included, and it [18:07] deserves to be respected. They were [18:09] hired because they are the professionals [18:11] and they should be trusted to do the [18:12] jobs they were trained to do without [18:14] political interference. The role of [18:16] council is not to decide which [18:18] viewpoints deserve a place in the [18:19] library based on personal preference. It [18:22] is to support the institution, respect [18:24] the professionals who manage it, and [18:26] allow them to serve the entire community [18:28] fairly and consistently. That consistent [18:31] or that difference absolutely matters. A [18:34] healthy community is not one in which [18:35] everyone agrees, a healthy community is [18:37] one in which people can disagree without [18:39] attempting to silence one another or [18:41] pressure public institutions into taking [18:43] sides. [18:45] We do not all have to approve of every [18:47] book, every display, speaker, program, [18:49] or anything. In fact, in a community as [18:51] diverse as Monroeville, it would be [18:53] impossible to expect that we all would. [18:55] But I hope we can agree on this [18:57] principle. Disagreement should be met [18:59] first with conversation, not political [19:01] pressure. [19:02] I also want to take a moment and [19:04] recognize one of the very positive [19:05] things that happened in the past 2 weeks [19:07] in Monroeville. [19:08] 2 weeks ago, our parks department, in [19:10] partnership with Gateway School [19:11] District, brought Seussical Kids to the [19:12] community through their youth theater [19:14] program. [19:15] The Parks Department deserves tremendous [19:18] tremendous credit for creating [19:19] opportunities like this and for [19:20] investing in programs that enrich the [19:22] lives of our young people. By partnering [19:24] [clears throat] with Gateway, they gave [19:25] dozens of children the chance to spend [19:27] part of their summer learning music, [19:29] acting, teamwork, and confidence while [19:31] performing for our community. Those [19:33] experiences build skills, friendships, [19:35] and lasting memories that extend far [19:36] beyond the stage. [19:38] I also hope to see more members of [19:40] council at events like these, at school [19:42] performances, youth sports, community [19:44] festivals, library programs, and the [19:47] many activities that bring Monroeville [19:48] together. There is no substitute for [19:51] showing up. The more often that you are [19:54] present where our residents gather, [19:56] volunteer, and perform, and learn, the [19:59] better that you will understand the [20:00] people you were elected to represent and [20:03] the institutions that make this [20:04] community so special. [20:05] » One minute. [20:06] » As residents, we should continue [20:08] supporting these institutions, [20:09] celebrating their successes, and [20:11] remaining engaged in the decisions that [20:13] affect them. I said during my last visit [20:15] that the people are paying attention, [20:16] and this remains true today. [20:18] I'm not saying this because we are [20:19] looking for conflict, but because we [20:21] care deeply about our community, our [20:24] public institutions, and the principles [20:26] of fairness and consistency that allow [20:28] them to thrive. Thank you for your time. [20:30] » Do you want to Do you want to submit [20:32] » I'm sure I got a bunch of notes all over [20:34] it, but yeah. [20:35] » [laughter] [20:35] » Okay, thank you. [20:40] » Nancy Ceiling. [20:47] » Hello all. My name is Nancy Gormley. I [20:49] live on Greenleaf Drive in Monroeville, [20:50] and I did sign in. [20:52] » Thank you. [20:52] » Thank you. [20:53] » Um I hate to beat a dead horse, [20:55] but there was a comment made [20:57] during the um councilman's uh [21:00] councilperson, excuse me, Mr. Mrs. [21:03] Ramsey, [21:04] um [21:05] um conversations at the end of the [21:07] meeting that we didn't have a chance to [21:08] address. [21:09] And that was about the library code. [21:12] And, um, [21:14] one councilman said, "Yeah, I think [21:16] there's something in the PA library [21:17] code." Well, let me inform you, this is [21:20] exactly what it says. [21:23] A local library, this is chapter 9318, [21:26] local library governance. [21:29] A local library established under this [21:31] chapter [21:32] or of the former act of June 14th, 1961, [21:36] known as the library code, shall be [21:39] governed exclusively [21:41] by a board of library directors as [21:43] follows. And then there's some [21:45] exclusions that don't pertain to us, [21:47] like if two municipalities share a a [21:49] library. [21:50] But the interesting thing, [21:52] considering what we were talking about [21:54] last month, [21:56] is when we look at Monroeville's own [21:57] code, [21:59] chapter 80-1. [22:01] This is hereby created and established [22:04] in the municipality of Monroeville, [22:06] the board of directors of the [22:08] Monroeville library, which shall have [22:10] full and complete control over the [22:13] operation and conduct of a municipal [22:16] library, including the effort to get [22:18] such a library established. [22:20] Which means, [22:22] in my legal opinion, [22:24] and that's just from watching TV, [22:27] I believe that our municipal manager, at [22:30] the direction of council, some council [22:32] members overstepped. [22:34] Because there was a board meeting held [22:36] that month to discuss the topic at hand. [22:39] They voted to allow the display to stay, [22:41] and it was overruled. And I think that's [22:43] a violation of this ordinance, and I'm [22:46] very disappointed that our manager [22:48] didn't know better, because that's his [22:50] job. [22:51] So, thank you. [22:52] » Thank you. [22:53] » Thank you. [22:55] » Anyone else in any other Monroeville [22:57] items that we have in citizens night? [23:02] All right, I'll be close that section of [23:04] the meeting for now. [23:07] And on to my favorite part [23:10] is we have some a couple of hearings for [23:12] folks [23:13] next on a couple of [23:15] items for conditional uses as we move [23:18] forward to do that. The first one is [23:21] Seven Brew for those individuals that [23:23] are involved and want to give testimony [23:25] or anything please could you please [23:27] stand up? [23:30] You're the only one, sir. Could you [23:31] raise your right hand? [23:33] Tell the truth [23:35] promise to tell [clears throat] the [23:35] truth, the whole truth, and nothing but [23:36] the truth? [23:37] » I do. [23:37] » Please state your name for the record. [23:39] » Bob Gage. [23:40] » Okay. [23:42] Bob, can you come forward? [23:43] » Good evening. [23:44] My name is Bob Gage. I'm with Brew Brew [23:47] LLC. We are a franchisee of Seven Brew [23:49] Coffee. [23:52] And I am here to request conditional [23:54] approval [23:56] for a conditional use. [24:00] The reason for the conditional use, we [24:02] are a use by right, but the reason for [24:04] the conditional use is two primary [24:07] structures on one parcel. At the last [24:10] month's meeting, the Express Car Wash [24:12] came through. I believe you all saw that [24:14] and that was approved and this is the [24:16] second structure that is on that [24:18] » Just for everyone's refreshment, so to [24:20] limit, no pun intended. [24:22] » [laughter] [24:23] » Yeah. [24:24] Could you please identify the two major [24:26] roads that are on the two sides? [24:27] » Yes, sorry. William Penn Highway and [24:29] Center Street, I believe. Center Road. [24:32] » Yep. [24:32] » Yes. [24:34] This is the basic layout of the proposed [24:37] development. We have a right in right [24:39] out off of William Penn [24:41] that comes in, circles around, our queue [24:43] lanes start on the the northwest side of [24:45] our of our parcel. [24:48] Wrap back around and the building sits [24:50] here facing toward William Penn. [24:52] This is a 100% drive-thru facility. [24:55] There is no walk-up traffic, no sit-down [24:57] traffic. Uh 100% drive-thru. [25:01] Um [25:02] as you come through, get uh your [25:04] product, leave. You've got the choice of [25:07] either coming back down and doing a [25:08] right out on William Penn or going back [25:10] over to center and coming down to the [25:12] light and going in either direction uh [25:13] east or west from there. [25:15] Um [25:17] it is a 510 sq ft building with a 273 sq [25:20] ft auxiliary building, which is a cooler [25:23] that sits adjacent to the primary [25:24] building. [25:25] Uh it is a modular structure. It will [25:28] come in on the back of a truck uh once [25:29] we get all the site work done, we bring [25:31] it in, set it down, 4 days later it's [25:34] ready for business. [25:35] Uh be happy to answer any questions if [25:37] anyone has any. [25:39] » Council? [25:40] » Yes, Bob. [25:41] » My other question, uh the sidewalks [25:43] around that property, [25:45] uh they need repaired or replaced. And [25:48] and [25:49] was was that addressed? [25:51] » Yes, they're actually going to uh [25:53] replace the stairs, put a ramp in, and [25:57] uh most of the sidewalk on their portion [26:00] was in decent shape. There might be a [26:01] couple areas that need touched up, but [26:03] for the most part it wasn't too bad. [26:05] » My other question is this is a [26:09] drive-thru facility only. [26:10] » Correct. [26:11] » Okay. [26:12] And our ordinance still requires all [26:14] these extra parking places. Nobody's [26:16] ever going to park here if it's driving [26:18] through. [26:19] » The [26:19] » Employees. [26:21] » Uh the parking spaces are for the [26:22] employees. So [26:23] » Employees? [26:24] » Yes, sir. Uh we have uh [26:27] 4-hour shifts throughout the day, so we [26:29] have a lot of people coming and going uh [26:31] employees that uh we we want to provide [26:34] enough parking there for the overlap [26:36] during the the shift changes. [26:38] » Okay. [26:39] » So that's the reason for the the number [26:40] of uh parking that we have here. And if [26:43] the store does get busy, we do have the [26:45] capacity to have as many as 22 employees [26:47] on site at a time to take care [26:48] [clears throat] of that volume. [26:49] » Okay. What what is the size of this [26:51] module? [26:52] » 510 square feet. [26:54] » Do you Do do put an illustration up [26:55] there? [26:56] » An illustration or something? [26:58] » This is the front of the building? [27:04] » Oh, it's small. [27:06] » It's very small. [27:06] » And that [27:08] comes in sections? [27:09] » It does, yes sir. It'll come on three [27:11] semis. So, the base, this this part [27:14] under the canopy will come on one truck. [27:16] The top part will come on a second [27:17] truck. [27:19] And then this is the cooler, auxiliary [27:21] cooler building that will come on a [27:22] third truck along with the canopies. [27:26] » Why Why is the cooler not connected to [27:28] the building? They got to walk outside [27:30] to get to the cooler? [27:31] » We've got constraints regarding [27:32] transportation. [27:34] So, we we can only have we can only go [27:36] so big with the main building and still [27:38] fit it on a truck and get it here on [27:39] site [27:40] through DOT permitting. [27:43] » Okay, thank you. [27:44] » Yes, sir. [27:46] » Bob. [27:47] » Um what are your days and hours of [27:49] operation? [27:50] » Uh we're open 7 days a week, 5:30 a.m. [27:52] till 10:30 p.m. [27:54] Uh [27:55] on Sunday it is 6:30 a.m. till 9:30 p.m. [28:00] Those are starting hours depending on [28:02] what the volume is, what our traffic [28:04] looks like, those can be adjusted after [28:06] we get get it open and and operating, [28:08] but those are the area hours that we [28:09] start with. [28:10] » Sure, one of the questions always is [28:12] about these kind of facilities. How much [28:13] of a queue do you have [clears throat] [28:14] for cars? It looks like you have a fair [28:16] number. Do you know what the number is? [28:18] How many cars you can fit in the area [28:20] inside your uh [28:21] » I do. [28:22] » Those two driveways? [28:23] » Yes, so we've designed this to hold 31 [28:25] cars. [28:26] » Okay. [28:27] » So, and that that is in the queue lanes [28:29] up to this point here. [28:31] Where the queue lane starts. So, uh [28:33] theoretically we have more room if we [28:35] needed. Uh the best operating store that [28:38] we have to date uh will do 28 cars at [28:41] the peak hour in the afternoon and that [28:42] typically lasts for 2 minutes during [28:44] that 4-to-6-hour rush. Uh so, we feel [28:47] like we've designed it to handle uh the [28:50] biggest load we can expect. [28:52] » Thank you. [28:52] » Yes, sir. [28:54] » Question for solicitor. [28:56] » Yes. [28:57] » Refresh my memory [29:00] when you [29:01] put in a conditional use [29:03] and they would decide to tear this down [29:05] and put something else in there. Does [29:07] that conditional use stay with the [29:09] property or the project? [29:11] » No, it's not like a variance. If they [29:12] terminate the use, then the use doesn't [29:14] exist anymore. [29:15] » Okay. [29:15] » Nobody has a right to that use if they [29:17] remove everything from the property. [29:19] Now, if the if the building stayed [29:21] then a person would be able to continue. [29:24] But if they remove the the building [29:27] itself, then that's the end of the use. [29:30] » Okay. Thank you. [29:30] » To start all over again. [29:32] » And this is a lease for us and we do [29:35] have written in the lease that we have [29:37] the ability to remove the building once [29:38] » Yeah. [29:39] » If and when we ever close it. [29:41] » Can I Can I think I heard when the car [29:42] wash was here, excuse me for [29:44] interrupting you. [29:45] I think I heard that you have cross [29:47] easements and everything to handle it. [29:49] The getting in and out onto the highway. [29:51] » Yes, sir. Yes, sir. We have cross access [29:53] easements for both. [29:55] So car wash people can enter our site [29:57] and we can leave and enter through the [29:59] car wash site as well. [30:00] » Okay. Great. [30:01] » So with this property, [30:04] they can't sell the car wash or the [30:08] coffee shop to another individual. It [30:11] has to stay with the same individual. [30:13] » No, they could they could sell it if [30:14] they want. I mean, whoever would buy [30:17] part of it, let's say, would be subject [30:19] to the same rights that have been [30:22] already been established between the two [30:24] property, the two operations. [30:26] So, yeah, they can [30:28] freely transfer it. [30:29] » Okay. Thank you. [30:31] » Any other questions from council? [30:34] » Staff, Paul, anything interesting in [30:36] » This isn't really a I guess it's kind of [30:38] a new [30:39] experience for us. [30:40] » No, uh know, we've reviewed it. Gateway [30:42] Engineers has reviewed it. There's some [30:44] stormwater questions they're working [30:45] through, but uh we expect full [30:48] compliance. [30:49] » And we'll be ready to go by Tuesday? [30:51] » Uh maybe Wednesday. [30:56] » Okay. As long as we have it spelled out [30:57] for the look for it here. All right, if [30:59] there aren't any other questions, thank [31:00] you, sir. We look forward to you. [31:01] » Thank you. [31:02] » I'll see you next week. [31:03] Yeah, I [31:04] That's true, too. Is there anyone [31:06] presently I didn't nobody else stood up [31:07] to for the testimony, but did [31:09] » He's the only one who stood. [31:10] » Yeah, he's the only one who stood up, [31:11] but nobody else had comment. Okay. [31:14] Thank you for reminding me that. [31:16] All right. Uh motion to close that [31:18] particular hearing. [31:19] » Motion. [31:20] » Second. [31:21] » All in favor? [31:22] » Aye. [31:22] » Okay, closed. [31:25] All right. So, we want to talk about [31:27] next item on the agenda is the [31:29] proposal for the capital improvement [31:31] plan. Mr. Graziani, please see me at the [31:33] podium. [31:34] » Yes, sir. [31:35] Jared, if you could put the slides up, [31:37] we'll just quickly go through them. Not [31:38] a lot of slides, there's only nine. [31:40] Um so, back in the end of July, there [31:43] was a draft capital program given you as [31:45] you recall from our discussions last [31:48] year when we uh spent a lot of time on [31:49] it. You should be familiar with the [31:51] process, but I'll quickly go through the [31:52] slides. So, you know, we're always [31:54] looking 20 years out ahead. Why? Well, [31:56] we talked a lot about fire trucks [31:58] lasting 20 years. We talk about [32:00] buildings maybe lasting more, but it's [32:02] trying to maintain our our capital [32:04] assets over time. So, the 20 years is [32:07] what you look at, the 5 years is what [32:08] you focus on, and of course every [32:09] December you uh [32:12] you make 1-year CIP. [32:14] Uh but throughout the years, you guys [32:15] have done, you know, we approve purchase [32:18] orders for capital improvements. [32:20] And we're constantly assessing that. Uh [32:22] notice [clears throat] there was a [32:23] little bit of flow. [32:24] Um the the capital purchase requests [32:27] didn't occur in January. I think we [32:28] started in February, and then we went [32:30] through a bunch. There's none on this [32:32] month's meeting just because that's how [32:34] they they flow. We try to manage cash [32:36] balances. We try to manage, um, you [32:39] know, the timing of when the purchase [32:40] order is ready to be submitted to you [32:42] all, and then you make that that [32:44] decision. But, it's all about trying to [32:46] maintain fund balance in the long run. [32:48] Um, so right now, you know, our capital [32:50] needs are about 28 million. And if you [32:53] read the cover sections of the plan that [32:57] was submitted the end of July last year, [32:59] we were about 38 million dollars. [33:02] Um, and that was cuz we did have a a bit [33:04] of an extra year, so it was a basically [33:07] a a 6-year instead of a 5-year, as well [33:09] as some other backlog projects. [33:11] Um, the when we look at funding, you [33:14] know, right now there's a gap, and that [33:16] quite frankly is cuz we got to apply for [33:17] grants. You know, when you approve those [33:19] traffic signals, [33:21] you might be doing a 1.2 million-dollar [33:23] project, and we might have an [33:25] 800,000-dollar grant, for example. So, [33:27] we don't have those grant commitments in [33:28] hand, we won't proceed with a project, [33:30] for example, that is relying on a grant [33:33] commitment. So, roughly you're about 29 [33:35] million dollars in expenditures with [33:36] about 25 million dollars in funding. Um, [33:40] just to give you a framework. Meanwhile, [33:43] we depend on the different years, [33:47] they're not uniform. For example, there [33:50] might be a larger purchase in one year [33:52] and less. What remains relatively [33:54] constant, at least we're trying to, are [33:56] the investments we make in roads and [33:59] specifically the the paving program, as [34:02] well as the associated crack sealing and [34:05] uh seal coating fog sealing, and the the [34:09] guardrail. I've already mentioned [34:10] traffic signals. Now, as you all [34:12] realize, we're getting less paving over [34:16] time [34:17] with the same investment, you know, just [34:19] like in your home, inflation is [34:20] impacting our [34:23] ability to get things done. So, it's [34:24] it's something that we've got to keep in [34:25] mind. The number of roads don't don't [34:28] shrink over time. In fact, they grow as [34:30] developments get approved. [34:31] Uh, however, our buying power decreases, [34:34] but that's a significant portion, a good [34:37] bit of the program is in the road [34:39] program itself. [34:41] So, when we look at that, we talk about [34:43] the different breakdowns. You know, the [34:46] road's $2.6 million. [34:48] You look at public safety, police [34:50] vehicles, public works vehicles, the [34:52] fire truck that we're looking to order, [34:54] you know, and so forth. So, these [34:56] details are all in the report. We can [35:00] take as much time as you like to go over [35:01] the report, come to our office. If [35:03] questions will walk through it and help [35:05] you. The the fire agreement is something [35:08] you have approved, so it's in this plan. [35:10] It's just like we worded it. [35:12] We will make sure the final that you all [35:14] look at have those exact numbers as [35:17] reflected. Now, [35:18] maybe those quotes change a bit [35:20] when they actually are ordered, but [35:22] right now they'll reflect what's in the [35:24] the agreement. [35:26] Implementation, [35:27] obviously everything depends on [35:29] resources. [35:30] The general [clears throat] fund is [35:31] first. [35:33] That's the day-to-day, keep the lights [35:35] open 365, 24 hours a day. [35:38] Once that's fed, [35:40] the leftovers go to things like the [35:41] capital. [35:43] So, we always are trying to maintain [35:44] that. We're for us, our goal is that [35:48] January 2032, [35:50] the community has at least 20% reserves [35:52] in the bank January 1, 2032. We're [35:55] always working at that number. So, [35:57] everything is predicated on will in [35:59] January 2032 we have at least 20% in the [36:02] bank for our capital part or for our [36:04] general fund. If we don't, what gets [36:06] dialed back, quite frankly, are capital [36:09] expenditures. We have a pay-as-you-go [36:11] program. This anticipates no debt. We're [36:13] now out of debt. We made our last bond [36:15] payment. This capital program has no [36:17] debt. As I said, if there is a grant [36:20] that we're not successful in getting, we [36:22] won't execute the project. Just how it [36:24] goes. We have to keep the lights on. So, [36:26] the general funds came and this is [36:28] subservient to the general fund. So the [36:30] transfers for the most part the fund the [36:32] capital come out of the general fund and [36:34] each December you'll be approving that [36:36] transfer. When you adopt the general [36:39] fund within that is an expenditure or a [36:41] transfer to the capital and at that time [36:44] in December you'll be approving that [36:46] year's capital. So they will differ and [36:48] will always will like what we do in [36:50] August for 2027 will be definitely [36:53] slightly different than what is you [36:54] adopt in December of 2026 slightly. And [36:57] what actually gets bought in 2027 [37:00] will differ just based on costs and what [37:02] we're able to do. We might not be able [37:04] to [37:05] afford something we thought we could [37:07] just simply because of inflation or the [37:09] price adjustment which have wildly [37:12] changed in particularly vehicles. [37:16] We've seen a fluctuation but just look [37:19] at you all have experienced that with [37:21] tariffs and some of the vehicles you [37:22] might have bought 5 years ago and what [37:24] you're paying for those same vehicles [37:25] now is [37:26] very different. So just to give you an [37:28] idea of how we do all this. [37:30] Public hearing, council action, [37:33] the home rule charter contemplates that [37:36] the ordinance is adopted by the you know [37:38] before the end of September. We'd like [37:39] you to be able to do it next week. If we [37:41] can't do it next week, you know we can [37:42] do it in September. [37:44] And that's kind of it for my slides and [37:47] the presentation Jared. You can turn [37:48] that off [37:49] or you can take any comments or [37:51] » Well, I was going to say I was going to [37:52] leave the public I like the public [37:53] comment window in there because if [37:55] anybody has any public comment [37:57] on that in this hearing, please feel [37:58] free to [38:00] step forward and voice them. [38:03] Council, anything at this time? [38:05] » No. [38:06] » Yes. Yes, Mr. Williams. [38:09] » I am extremely concerned about our money [38:13] in Monroeville. [38:15] If we run our households like most [38:17] communities run their boroughs, we'd all [38:20] we'll under a bridge. [38:22] We need to watch the money. Right now, [38:24] I'm I'm thrilled that Monroeville's [38:26] debt-free. [38:27] And and I intend to do my part to keep [38:30] it that way. And uh, and then we need [38:33] economic development. We got a lot of [38:35] empty storefronts. And I don't know how [38:37] we're going to do it, but we need [38:38] somebody to take care of economic [38:40] development and put these empty [38:42] storefronts out there uh, so that people [38:45] can see what Monroeville has and why [38:47] it's a good place to have a business. [38:50] Uh, [38:51] next couple years are going to be tough. [38:53] We're we're we're we're losing a lot of [38:55] money with with uh, stores leaving. And [38:59] uh, [38:59] it it's just a concern. And in this new [39:02] budget, uh, we're going to have to [39:04] tighten up the purse strings. And uh, [39:06] every department's probably going to be [39:08] hurting a little bit. Uh, but uh, [39:11] I'm I'm I'm not for uh, going into debt [39:13] and borrowing millions of dollars. And [39:15] and that's where I stand. I thank you. [39:19] » All right, Bob. Thank you. [39:20] Anyone else on council? [39:24] All right, we'll look forward to that. [39:25] And I'm going to close that section of [39:26] the public hearing for this evening. All [39:29] right, thank you. [39:32] All right. [39:34] I do want to read this. We always read [39:35] this before most of our regular meetings [39:37] and put this in place, too. [39:39] Uh, as well that we want to have an [39:40] announcement that we had an executive [39:42] session uh, [39:43] uh, [39:44] this evening. Uh, council conducted an [39:46] executive session on Thursday the the [39:47] 6th from um, [39:49] 6:00 p.m. to 7:00 p.m. to discuss our [39:51] collective bargaining union negotiations [39:53] and the police policy wage policy [39:55] committee and matters of attorney-client [39:56] privilege and legal advice related to [39:58] those negotiations. [40:00] Uh, council and any legislative action, [40:02] if there if there is any, uh, will be [40:04] taken at the council meeting on Tuesday [40:06] the 11th, 2026 or at some future public [40:09] meeting. [40:10] All right, just so we have that in the [40:11] record. [40:13] And as you see then item four for this [40:15] evening, we'll review the take a look. [40:17] Any questions from anyone on the [40:19] proposed agenda? [40:20] » Yep. [40:21] » I'm sorry, did you miss the skip the [40:23] minutes? [40:24] » I don't didn't remind myself of any [40:26] minutes for on here today. [40:27] » Yeah, so so [40:28] » They're It's here. It's on the back. I [40:29] got it for here. [40:30] » Do you do that, too? And we'll have our [40:32] minutes be available on Tuesday, August [40:34] 11th. [40:36] » I don't I didn't submit any minutes for [40:39] approval this month. [40:40] » Yeah, so if you know for July [40:42] » It's not available. [40:42] » Okay. [40:43] » Feature me. Okay. [40:45] » Yep. [40:45] » Got it. [40:46] » So just just for housekeeping purposes, [40:47] we're reviewing next week's agenda. [40:50] » That's correct. [40:51] » We've now entered, when we close the [40:52] public hearing, is a regular workshop [40:54] meeting, which is a little bit freer of [40:55] a meeting. We'll be discussing next [40:57] week's agenda. And we're [40:59] to the best of our ability showing you [41:01] that agenda of how it will look next [41:03] week. So when you get there, you'll be [41:04] like, "Oh, I remember we talked about [41:06] that last week." [41:07] » That's correct. [41:07] » We can move forward. So now, if you're [41:09] following, you know, we would be on page [41:12] five [41:13] » Of 10. [41:14] » 10. [41:14] » Or we [41:15] » Discuss those particular minutes, and [41:16] then we'll discuss reports of the tax [41:18] collectors as well. That's on there. [41:19] That's included in our green section for [41:21] council that's in here. It's added on [41:22] that. Discuss the list of bills and [41:24] budgets and transfer in the payrolls and [41:27] the CIP purchase order list [41:29] for next week, as well. [41:31] » So number seven is one that you want to [41:32] give a lot of thought to. [41:34] » We do. [41:35] Why don't you go into the background, [41:36] Mr. Griffin? [41:36] » All right. Thank you. [41:37] » If you notice how thick your packet was [41:39] this month, it's because we did get a [41:41] report from our traffic engineer related [41:44] to a petition that was submitted last [41:46] fall. The way things work in [41:48] Monroeville, if you're concerned about [41:50] speed or traffic uh in your community [41:53] being unsafe, you can petition council [41:57] to initiate a traffic calming study, and [42:00] the residents along Logan Ferry [42:02] submitted one of those back at the end [42:05] of or at the end of the meeting back in [42:07] the first meeting of October 2025. That [42:09] led to [42:11] the report that's in your packet. On [42:14] July 6th, 2026, the draft study found [42:16] that the 85th percentile speed of 36 mph [42:20] on a road that's posted 25 mph [42:24] um [42:25] identified potential speed humps, [42:26] pavement marking enhancements, speed [42:28] feedback signs for further [42:30] consideration. The draft does not [42:32] include construction costs or additional [42:33] engineering fees. So, what you all need [42:36] to do is, you know, receive the the [42:38] study, review the study. [42:41] Um if you want to move forward, we're [42:42] going to we would need some sort of a [42:44] motion to advance [42:46] uh the next step with HRG and getting [42:49] into the construction costs [42:52] and so forth. So, so you need to [42:54] familiarize yourself and ask yourself as [42:56] a council, is this worth pursuing [42:59] further or would you like to narrow the [43:01] scope? For example, you might say, you [43:03] know, we reviewed the study and we want [43:05] the traffic warning signs, the speed [43:08] feedback signs, you know, for example. [43:10] And and we would get guidance on that [43:12] and proceed with costs and figure that [43:14] out and move forward. But right now [43:16] we've done [43:18] I think what we can do and and you'll [43:20] might need some time to review it. We [43:21] might not be able to act next Tuesday, [43:23] but at a future meeting you may decide [43:24] to act based on this information. [43:26] Mr. Huggins is much more familiar with [43:28] it than I am, especially with the [43:29] history of how we even got the speed [43:31] humps bumps. They're really not humps, [43:33] they're more like bumps. [43:34] They're not speed tables, that's for [43:35] sure, on Logan's Ferry [43:37] » Humps. By definition, they're speed [43:38] humps. [43:39] » So, [43:40] » [cough and clears throat] [43:40] » If you have questions, he can answer [43:43] them probably better than I could. [43:45] » [clears throat] [43:46] » Mr. Washington, Mrs. Ramsey, this is [43:49] runs in your neck of the woods. Any [43:50] questions for the staff right now? [43:54] » Joe, what's your recommendation? [43:56] » Well, the the the speed humps that are [43:58] in place and all excuse [clears throat] [43:59] me, that was based on a traffic study [44:02] that was done in 2008. [44:04] That was prior to the construction of [44:07] Maple Crest and the senior housing. [44:10] So, that's really, you know, Mr. [44:12] Pugliano came up and voiced his [44:14] displeasure with traffic and speed and [44:16] so forth. That's why this study was [44:19] done. We took Yeah, there was a [44:20] petition. [44:22] There was a lot of you know, a lot of [44:24] recommendations by the residents, by Mr. [44:26] Pugliano. We took all those. All those [44:29] recommendations were given to the [44:30] traffic engineer to look at [44:32] on that section of road. Um so, the [44:34] original study was in 2008. It was kind [44:36] of antiquated because we did not look at [44:39] the area from Willow Hedge to Old [44:42] Frankstown. And that's what we [44:43] concentrated on this time. [44:45] Um part of the [44:46] part of the design restraints is is [44:49] Locust Tree Road and you know, Mr. [44:51] Pugliano was very adamant about speed [44:53] humps on that slope. But, if the slope [44:57] is greater than 8 to 10%, you don't put [44:59] speed humps on. [45:00] It's a recommendation that you don't do [45:02] that. So, there's other things that you [45:04] can do which is in the report. But, you [45:07] know, this specific recommendation shows [45:09] that there four additional speed humps. [45:12] Um you know, a traffic you know, similar [45:15] to what you see on a lot of streets [45:17] where it says your speed is blank, you [45:20] know. [45:20] Uh we we look at doing one of those. [45:23] Um now, that is an official traffic [45:25] control device under PennDOT. You have [45:27] to get a permit to install those. [45:30] Um along with some other minor [45:32] [clears throat] recommendations. So, [45:34] you know, it's you know, it's definitely [45:36] going to affect the traffic flow. [45:38] So, you need to think about that. [45:41] » All right. [45:43] Questions from anyone else? [45:44] » When you say traffic flow, what do you [45:46] what do you mean? [45:47] » I mean, to me you when you're traveling [45:48] that road, I mean, you're going to be [45:49] experiencing four additional speed [45:51] humps. You're going to be experienced [45:53] you know, basically rumble strips going [45:56] down Locust Tree Road or coming back up [45:58] the [45:58] » You said they weren't you You put speed [46:01] humps on. [46:01] » No, not on a slope. [46:03] But they're showing four speed humps in [46:04] totality. Two on the lower section of [46:07] of [46:08] of Logan's Ferry and two on the upper [46:10] section. So, four additional speed [46:12] humps, [46:13] some rumble strips. [46:15] » Would the rumble strips go on the slope? [46:17] » Yes, they do. And that's the that's the [46:19] trade-off to a speed hump on on a steep [46:22] slope. [46:24] » With that amount of space out from [46:26] Frankstown to [46:28] say Gary's house, [46:30] one speed hump would probably be [46:31] significant there. [46:33] I mean [46:34] » Well, based on the again, you know, [46:36] based on the speeds and [46:38] you know, the traffic volume, that's [46:40] what was warranted. [46:43] So, from old Frankstown to [46:45] um [46:46] the entrance to the Ezell plan, you [46:48] know, you're looking at two additional [46:49] speed humps. Then you're going to go up [46:51] slope over some rumble strips. You're [46:54] going to get to the top of the hill, [46:55] you're going to have two more speed [46:56] humps. [46:58] You know, so it's it's going to slow [46:59] traffic down. [47:00] » Did they do anything about any [47:02] consideration concerning the flooding [47:03] that's for that [47:04] » That has not flooded. [47:07] That has been rectified. [47:10] » Good to hear. [47:11] » [snorts] [47:11] » So, are they saying we have to choose [47:13] between one of these three or we could [47:15] do all three? [47:16] » Well, this is what the recommendation is [47:17] is in front of you. [47:19] Now, you can pick and choose [47:21] some or all or none. [47:22] » We could modify [47:24] » Sure, they recommend [47:25] » Right. I'm sorry? [47:26] » They're recommending all three of these [47:27] measures? [47:28] » Yes. [47:29] » Okay. [47:32] » And what we were suggesting was if you [47:33] want us to advance, the next step would [47:35] be get costs. [47:37] » Cuz the one thing that came out jumped [47:38] out to me was the traffic volumes on [47:40] Logan's Ferry Road do not meet the 3,000 [47:42] vehicles per day or 300 vehicles per [47:44] hour thresholds to warrant traffic [47:46] calming measures. [47:48] And then they're recommending [47:50] » But that's based on classification of [47:51] the road, though. [47:52] » Okay. [47:52] » You have to continue reading that [47:54] section. [47:55] » Okay. [47:58] As far as the speed signs go, they've [48:00] been talking about that for the last 10 [48:02] or 15 years. [48:03] » Right. Well, something should be done [48:04] there. [48:05] » The speed signs aren't going to slow [48:06] traffic. [48:07] » Can we go back to that now? [48:08] » Kind of worked on in Pitcairn. I've seen [48:10] them [48:10] » [clears throat] [48:11] » Mr. Huges, can we can you help us [48:13] understand the comment because I think [48:15] what's confusing [clears throat] is the [48:17] one talks about the volume but then the [48:20] 85% speeds [48:22] then merit it. So, that's what the last [48:25] sentence based on vehicle speeds Logan's [48:27] Ferry Road is applicable to traffic [48:29] calming measures in accordance with the [48:31] traffic calming policy. So, there's kind [48:33] of two things, you know, you're looking [48:34] at volume but if that volume though it [48:36] be low, for example, is traveling at [48:39] that percent high, [48:41] then you might want to consider it. [48:43] That's Does that help you? [48:44] » Yeah. [48:44] » Yeah. [48:50] » Anyone else? [48:53] Any questions? Good. [48:55] » Mike. [48:55] » Okay. [48:56] All right, moving on. I'm just going to [48:58] have Mr. Graziani read the next [48:59] proposals for the that'll be the [49:01] applications for consent development [49:03] application we'll be considering in your [49:05] warrant section. Do you have [49:06] » So, as was discussed at the hearing, [49:07] basically, the applicant is requesting [49:09] site plan approval pursuant to [49:10] Monroeville Zoning Ordinance 27-79 as [49:13] amended to permit the construction and [49:15] operation of a drive-thru coffee shop [49:16] business and associated amenities. As [49:19] we've discussed, the property address is [49:20] 41-11 [49:22] William Penn Highway and is identified [49:23] as tax parcel 743-H-040 [49:27] in the Boulevard Zoning District. The [49:28] Planning Commission recommends approval [49:30] of this application and again, more [49:31] information is in your packet. [49:33] Related item is number nine. It's the [49:36] Seven Brew Conditional Use Approval. So, [49:39] one's a site plan, one's a conditional [49:41] use approval. Same information as we [49:43] discussed before. [49:47] And it's all in the agenda there. [49:50] Lastly, would be the sewage planning [49:52] module for this development. [49:54] And number 11 is the sewage planning [49:56] module for the car wash. [49:58] » Okay. [50:00] Any other questions on that, folks? [50:02] Okay. Moving on, we've got the next [50:05] resolution. [50:06] » Yeah, so these are [clears throat] um [50:07] related to the capital discussion. Um [50:10] quite frankly, you know, if some of [50:12] these are successful, since Dr. Lang has [50:15] been here, she would have had a part in [50:17] about a million dollars of grants [50:20] additional grants coming into our [50:21] community. We're we're trying to be as [50:22] active as we can. We need capital [50:24] improvement plans to be in place so we [50:25] can apply for grants. State wants to [50:27] know, are you serious about getting this [50:28] or doing this? [50:29] And as I mentioned, if we don't have the [50:31] grant, we're not going to just go ahead [50:32] and buy it. You know, it's sort of like [50:34] a chicken and egg thing. You guys say [50:36] you want to do it, we apply to get it, [50:38] they fund it, we do it. If they don't [50:40] fund it, then we [50:42] apply again, and try it another year. [50:44] You know, just delay the project. [50:46] » Revisit. [50:46] » Yeah, revisit it. So, these are a couple [50:48] grants. Um you can read those. You Some [50:51] of you are familiar with these programs. [50:52] One of them that we're looking to get, [50:54] the item 12, is the replace the turf [50:57] um [50:58] at the baseball fields. [51:01] And the next one is for the improvements [51:04] that we're looking at Overlook Park. [51:09] » Mhm. [51:11] » So, any questions on those two projects? [51:14] » What you're talking about was the [51:16] Overlook Park was the turf replacement. [51:19] Where's the artificial turf there? [51:20] » The ball fields, the four ball fields at [51:22] Community Park West are AstroTurf. [51:25] » AstroTurf, that's the old name. [51:26] » We'll call it artificial. [51:28] » The infields are AstroTurf, the [51:29] outfields are grass. [51:30] » Okay, thank you. [51:32] » And [51:33] » How old is that turf? [51:35] » I was trying to look at my records [51:36] today, but I'm thinking it's probably [51:38] about 10 10 to 12 years old, though. [51:40] » Oh, I thought that happened since I've [51:42] been on council. Hey, with the baseball [51:44] field. [51:45] » And it was originally paid for with a [51:46] grant. [51:47] » Right. [51:47] » That's all the all the fields were the [51:49] AstroTurf was put in. [51:51] » Tremendous amount of use. [51:52] » Yeah. [51:53] » Is that about the lifespan for [51:55] » Yes, we're getting to the limit of the [51:56] lifespan. [51:57] » Okay. [51:59] Okay. [52:00] Turn it off. All right. [52:03] How does it Monroeville Baseball [52:05] contribute to any of that or is that all [52:07] on the taxpayers? [52:09] » As was mentioned, it was a grant before. [52:12] Um [52:13] and we were trying to seek a grant now [52:15] and seek actually not only this one but [52:17] we've been talking to visit Monroeville [52:19] about also support. [52:21] Monroeville Baseball, if I understand [52:23] it, we've talked for years about field [52:25] use agreements [52:27] and and and so forth and I think Council [52:29] even got to the point where they were [52:30] looking at charging an annual fee. [52:32] Right, but there isn't right now. Um but [52:36] they will apply as well and at times [52:38] they've gotten grants to contribute to [52:39] these and I don't know all the details, [52:41] but for example, whether it's the [52:42] scoreboard or something, because they're [52:44] a nonprofit, you know, they sometimes [52:47] can get grants that we wouldn't be [52:48] eligible for and can get funds. So, [52:51] they're a player, but I I can't tell you [52:53] in this project or in the last project [52:54] um they have and I see you you might [52:57] have an idea of how much they were in [52:58] the last one. [52:59] » No, I don't, but as a former president [53:01] of the Baseball Association many years [53:03] ago. [53:03] » Yeah. [53:04] » Um when my kids were younger. Um [53:07] the the Monroeville Baseball Association [53:09] is primarily Monroeville kids. [53:11] » Yes. [53:11] » So, the idea is they try to establish a [53:14] budget whereby they get enough money to [53:16] buy uniforms and um uh pay umpires and [53:20] do that stuff and you know, there's [53:21] contributions and people sponsor teams. [53:24] And so they to keep the cost down of [53:26] playing baseball for [53:28] kids that are citizens of the community, [53:31] um that's a part we have that amenity [53:33] there for them. [53:34] Um so, it would just be like somebody [53:36] going to one of the other facilities and [53:39] you know, we don't charge the fee to our [53:41] residents for those. [53:42] » Yeah. [53:42] it's a similar issue, but they do try to [53:44] get grants. [53:45] » And they have been successful to get [53:46] some scoreboard funding. [53:48] » Yeah, and some other kinds of things, [53:49] but [53:51] I hope that helps, Mike. [53:52] » Yeah, well, I'm just I [53:54] I was just asking. I didn't know if they [53:56] since they did get a grant for the [53:57] scoreboard whether they had money left [53:59] from that [54:01] part of the [54:03] » Well, I don't think so. [54:03] » It always seems that all of us when we [54:05] get a grant it's never enough. [54:07] » Yeah, I don't think I don't know that it [54:09] was enough money to I think it was like [54:11] a sort of match thing. You know, you had [54:13] to get money from somewhere else to to [54:14] complete it, but it paid for a certain [54:16] portion. [54:19] » Okay. [54:22] All right, moving along. Uh the next [54:24] ordinance then as you can see on page [54:25] nine, that's on the two that we'll act [54:27] on next week is going to be I think we [54:29] can short say that it's going to be an [54:30] acting proven the adopting the capital [54:32] improvement program. I don't think [54:34] there's anything there that's unusual [54:35] for us, but we'll talk about that. [54:37] » I can just read the [54:39] » If you would, please. [54:40] » Some of it into the record. An ordinance [54:41] of the Municipality of Monroeville, [54:43] Allegheny County, Pennsylvania approving [54:45] and adopting the 2027 through 2031 [54:47] capital improvement program. [54:50] Uh the proposed 2027 to 2031 capital [54:53] improvement program identifies capital [54:55] projects totaling $28,121,592.95 [55:02] for the five years beginning January 1, [55:04] 2027 and ending December 31, 2031. [55:08] The program also identifies [55:10] $2,448,527.78 [55:15] in preliminary capital needs for the [55:17] 2032 informational and long-range [55:20] planning purposes. The proposed capital [55:22] improvement program for 2027 totals [55:25] $4,890,476. [55:30] » Great. [55:31] » Excuse me for double-clutching there. [55:32] » That's all right. [55:35] There's a lot of humidity. [55:36] » I put some of the 78 cents [55:37] » Sir. [55:41] » All right, moving right along. Look at [55:44] this, reports of municipal staff [55:45] already. Wow, let's grab let's start [55:47] with Mr. Ratcher. [55:48] » I have nothing for you tonight. [55:50] » Thank you, sir. Mr. Graziani. [55:53] » Yeah, Jared, if you could just put up [55:54] the slide. Obviously, I have a [55:56] um [55:58] in your packet, my report. You know, [56:00] just focusing on a lot of the things [56:02] we've been up to. [56:03] The forecasting of budget is a big deal. [56:06] You know, the 2027 to 2031, as I [56:08] mentioned, the goal to have 20% [56:11] at the beginning of the year 2032. [56:13] Um you know, the the public works campus [56:16] design [56:18] sequencing is coming along. You know, [56:20] hopefully [56:21] maybe September or October, we're making [56:22] presentations related to that. We had an [56:25] officer begin work at the beginning of [56:27] July, and we had three recruits start in [56:29] the academy. [56:31] Um each department is beginning to [56:33] include in your packets their reports. [56:35] You can follow throughout the year what [56:37] they're up to. Um we did a [56:41] new magazine, new newsletter that went [56:43] to every resident. Now, that's been [56:44] mentioned to earlier in July that went [56:46] out, and we're focused on getting [56:48] another one out in October. [56:49] And then, as far as the mall [56:50] redevelopment, that's a big deal, uh but [56:53] we're kind of waiting at the developers' [56:56] ability to move forward. [56:57] They have a high interest in moving [56:59] forward. When they're able to, they [57:00] will. [57:01] Until that time, we're in a holding [57:03] pattern. Uh we do know that the [57:05] Westinghouse [57:06] campus has had a large announcement that [57:09] Bechtel will be moving from their [57:11] current location at 2300 Technology [57:14] Drive to the NextTier facility, [57:18] i.e., the former Westinghouse facility. [57:21] By doing so, they're going to add [57:22] another thousand employees. They have [57:24] about a thousand in there now, and [57:25] they'll be looking to add about another [57:27] thousand, which would for the most part [57:29] fully occupy by old Westinghouse [57:30] facility. However, [57:32] we need to find by 2029 [57:35] a tenant. And back to Mr. Williams' [57:37] comment about economic development, Mr. [57:39] Wilden and I have met several times with [57:41] the current owner, Technology Drive [57:43] Elmhurst is the the company that has the [57:45] property off of Jameson Lane. And um [57:48] they've begun marketing it aggressively, [57:51] including meeting with the Lieutenant [57:52] Governor and regional economic [57:55] development people because [57:57] they know that the clock is ticking on [57:59] them and they don't want to have a month [58:00] without rent. You can understand, you [58:03] know, you'd be hopefully in the same [58:04] boat. Uh so, we're we're working with [58:06] them to make sure we're all on the same [58:08] page of what potential users might find [58:10] their way. They have a very nice [58:12] building there. Many of you recall they [58:14] did a significant investment in 2019 or [58:17] so to remodel that facility, so it's [58:20] ready to be remarketed and they've begun [58:22] even though it's 3 years out before [58:24] they'll [58:25] have a vacancy there. So, hopefully that [58:26] won't happen. That was just my report. [58:28] Uh other reports is is I mentioned are [58:30] in your packet. Please, if you have [58:32] questions, let me know. Um willing to [58:34] spend time to, you know, walk you [58:35] through those issues. [58:37] » Did it? [58:39] » Some. Okay. [58:41] MK, anything for you? [58:43] » Thank you, Mr. Poach. I do have just a [58:45] brief something to add. So, we're [58:47] working on the CIP [58:49] and uh also starting the budget [58:51] narratives and the budget numbers going [58:54] into late summer here. [58:56] And I just wanted to note that we're [58:58] going to be working on [59:00] the budget narratives in a way that it [59:02] kind of develops into a more like [59:04] strategic plan. [59:06] And the reason that we're doing that is [59:07] because grants have become more and more [59:10] competitive and what and I've been [59:12] finding that when we're writing these [59:13] grants, that they want to know, "Okay, [59:16] this is a great project, but did you [59:17] plan for it or did you just pull it out [59:19] of a hat?" Uh so, we're work the team's [59:21] working really hard to [59:23] connect our project needs from the CIP [59:25] and other areas into grant funding. [59:28] And just with the CIP we passed last [59:30] year coming into this year, [59:32] we were awarded, this does not count any [59:35] of Mr. Huggins' awesome road grants over [59:37] there, but for parks and rec and some [59:40] other smaller grants, we were awarded [59:41] $318,000 [59:43] in 2025. [59:45] We were also awarded 150,000 already in [59:49] 2026. [59:50] We have a pending award that should be [59:53] announced in September for 200,000 for [59:55] LSA. [59:56] And before you tonight and a few other [59:58] ones that are due this month, that would [1:00:00] equal a total 425,000 [1:00:02] dollars in grant submissions. So, in a [1:00:05] 2-year period, [1:00:06] we [1:00:08] almost will receive about a million [1:00:10] dollars in grant funding. [1:00:12] » Well done. Thank you. [1:00:13] Anything else? [1:00:15] Is that it? [1:00:16] » Yes, thank you. [1:00:17] » Okay. Thank you. [1:00:18] Appreciate it. You too. [1:00:21] Mr. Huggins. [1:00:22] » Yes, the Hawkeye Park play facility is [1:00:27] completed. [1:00:27] » Yeah. [1:00:28] » Finally. [1:00:29] » I heard that. [1:00:29] » Pretty big project. Looks very nice. [1:00:31] They did a great job, public works, and [1:00:33] all the construction [1:00:35] for it. [1:00:36] So, if you get a chance, go look at it. [1:00:38] » I actually somebody [clears throat] at [1:00:39] um [1:00:40] National Night Out on Tuesday actually [1:00:42] said that to me, too. They there and [1:00:44] thought it was was looked great, [1:00:46] too. I forgot I'm glad you brought that [1:00:48] up. [1:00:48] » This is the second one that public works [1:00:49] has has undertaken. We're going to do [1:00:51] try to do one a year as long as we [1:00:52] [clears throat] have funding to it. So, [1:00:54] we're moving on to the next one, [1:00:57] which will probably be Overlook. [1:00:59] » Okay. [1:01:00] All right. [1:01:01] Thank you, Paul. [1:01:03] Josie. [1:01:03] » Uh nothing. [1:01:05] » All right. Thank you. Well, you're [1:01:06] you're saving up his budgets and capital [1:01:09] you're you're saving up. [1:01:10] » Yeah, I'm I'm working with uh [1:01:13] Dr. Liang and uh [1:01:15] Alex [1:01:17] on [1:01:18] the budget and the CIP program. [1:01:21] » As always looking forward to it. [1:01:24] To budget hearing season. [1:01:26] » [clears throat] [1:01:26] » Mr. Sellick. [1:01:27] » Yeah, just FYI, the surplus auction last [1:01:31] month, we had a recycling truck that we [1:01:32] had to pull back because of a title [1:01:34] issue. Well, we put it up for bid again [1:01:36] and we got a little over $6,000 for it. [1:01:39] So, total for the surplus auction was [1:01:42] $125,000. [1:01:44] We did pretty well. [1:01:45] » That's pretty good. [1:01:46] » So, yeah. [1:01:46] » You didn't normally get it. That's [1:01:47] pretty [1:01:47] » Did really well this time, so. That's [1:01:49] all I have. [1:01:49] » Garage sale, thank you. [1:01:51] » Yeah. [1:01:51] » Thanks, Jeff, too. [1:01:52] All right, reports of council members. [1:01:54] Mrs. Ramsey, let's start over here [1:01:55] today. [1:01:56] » Nothing. [1:01:57] » Nothing else to say? Mr. Williams. [1:01:59] » Now, Mrs. Weiss did [clears throat] [1:02:01] contact me on that missing L down there [1:02:04] by Bob's Furniture. And I personally [1:02:06] went down there and looked for it. [1:02:08] It was not there. And I wouldn't take it [1:02:11] too much effort to make a wooden L or [1:02:13] something to put it on there. I I talked [1:02:15] to Tim Little, who is with the Rotary. [1:02:18] And he mentioned he was going to talk to [1:02:20] Alex, whether you ever did or not, I [1:02:22] don't know. But but I think $150,000 [1:02:25] is overkill for a sign welcoming people [1:02:28] to Monroeville. As far as a billboard [1:02:32] that's an enormous thing. There's [1:02:33] already a billboard right there and I [1:02:35] don't even know how that would conflict [1:02:37] with that. But but she did contact me [1:02:40] and I did go down and look at it. [1:02:42] » Mr. Williams, can I interrupt you? [1:02:43] » Mhm. [1:02:43] » It is on public works to do list to do [1:02:45] some minor renovations to that sign. [1:02:48] » Okay, thank you. Thank you. [1:02:50] » Gotten to it yet. [1:02:50] » Mhm. [1:02:52] Uh another thing is uh [1:02:54] Walmart. [1:02:56] We have no clue what they're doing. They [1:02:58] have no clue what they're doing. And as [1:03:00] you know, Georgiana, being on the [1:03:01] planning commission, there's a process. [1:03:04] The process is if they [1:03:06] do demolition, they got to come and get [1:03:08] a permit where they're putting that [1:03:11] uh scrap. The second thing is, when they [1:03:14] get plans, they go to the planning [1:03:15] commission or not the planning [1:03:17] commission but the building department [1:03:19] and they go over it. Then they go to the [1:03:21] planning commission. Then it comes to [1:03:23] council. They really have no obligation [1:03:25] to meet with us or the public or anybody [1:03:28] until the process [1:03:29] gets moving. [1:03:31] The third thing is our volunteer [1:03:33] firemen. [1:03:35] It's just heartbreaking that nobody [1:03:38] volunteers and it's every volunteer fire [1:03:40] department in the state, I believe, that [1:03:43] that needs people. Get off your iPads [1:03:46] and your cell phones and get out there [1:03:48] and see what our men and women do in the [1:03:50] volunteer fire departments. Take a tour [1:03:53] and it might change your mind and maybe [1:03:55] volunteer in a few hours a week. So, [1:03:58] give it a shot. They would appreciate [1:04:01] it. Municipality would appreciate it and [1:04:03] that's all I have. [1:04:04] » Thank you. Thank you, Bob. [1:04:06] » Nothing. [1:04:07] » Nothing tonight. [1:04:07] » Okay. Mr. Krantz. [1:04:09] » Nothing, thank you. [1:04:10] » Oh, backwards to me. I have nothing else [1:04:12] to add for this evening. [1:04:13] » I'm good, thank you, sir. [1:04:15] » I'm good, too, sir. [1:04:16] » All right, thank you, as well. Okay, [1:04:19] folks, there's nothing else. I entertain [1:04:21] a motion to [1:04:22] » To adjourn. [1:04:23] » Motion to adjourn. [1:04:24] » Second. All in favor? [1:04:25] Aye. Thank you. We are adjourned.