1 00:00:01,964 --> 00:00:03,984 [music] 2 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:17,040 » It's called the meeting to order. >> The Vernon Town Council met on August 3 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:21,280 5th, 2026 at 7:00 p.m. with the following members 4 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:25,480 present: Don Gerould, Chad Heffernan, Tim Berry, and Rich Stevenson. The 5 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:29,760 minutes of the July 1st meeting were read. Rich made a motion to approve, 6 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:35,160 seconded by Chad, and passed. Motion made by Tim to approve the around 7 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:39,440 22,000 flood reduction program for all three 8 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:42,840 ponds. That was seconded by Chad and passed. 9 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:46,360 Appraisals to be set up for properties on East and West Barnhart for potential 10 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:52,840 selling. Pavilion gutters were updated. Avis to 11 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:57,720 replace the lights and/or switches, and planning on painting the pavilion roof. 12 00:00:55,520 --> 00:01:01,760 And it also suggested the windows be replaced. With nothing further 13 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:07,520 discussed, Tim made a motion to adjourn, seconded by Rich, and passed. 14 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:11,840 » Any additions or corrections? Being none, we need a motion to 15 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:13,880 approve the minutes as read. Do I hear a motion? 16 00:01:12,960 --> 00:01:18,080 » I'll second. >> I have a motion and a second. All those 17 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:18,840 in favor signify by saying aye. >> Aye. 18 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:24,800 » Aye. >> All vote. 19 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:27,680 Opposed likewise. They're passed. 20 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:34,600 Lori. >> Um, 21 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:37,440 oh wait, go ahead. >> Oops. 22 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:41,000 So, I'm just here if there's any questions regarding the fire district. 23 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:44,520 Um, I can help answer any questions. 24 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:48,080 It's my only purpose in life right now. 25 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:56,080 » No, I think everything's moving along. So, 26 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:59,480 you know. >> I guess I do want to just check and sure 27 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:03,400 that I sent out the ordinance to everybody 28 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:05,680 just for review. I'm not here today to collect that. I just wanted to make sure 29 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:09,160 everyone got it. 30 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:14,760 I think the email's correct, so I know Lebanon and Avon and Minerva got 31 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:21,480 got those ordinances to be reviewed. >> Okay. 32 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:21,480 All right, got it. I'll get it to you. 33 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:33,040 » Sam? >> No, I'm just here. 34 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:37,280 » You got anything, Sam? >> I'm just here for the meeting. 35 00:02:34,959 --> 00:02:40,640 » Okay. I'll bring it up. You want me to kiss 36 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:43,440 up? >> Oh, sorry. 37 00:02:41,920 --> 00:02:46,360 Mike Clendenen from Boone County Council, first district. I think it's 38 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:49,240 important to engage the community you hope to represent, so 39 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:52,520 here I am. Can't be here in person, I'll try to 40 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:55,720 follow up online, so hopefully you'll be seeing a lot more of 41 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:59,640 me. We'll see. >> Thank you. 42 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:59,640 Great. 43 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:05,080 » Mike Keen. >> Uh 44 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:11,840 So, the fire department had talked we were going to win the uh 45 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:16,840 district takes over. We're still going to have probably, what 46 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:18,519 do you say, Sam? 15, 16 probably guys on? 47 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:21,160 » Yeah. >> And we were going to move to the 48 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:25,920 upstairs of the station now. 49 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:31,280 And that's kind of that's cluster, I mean, one, it's the 50 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:36,560 upstairs. Two, it's small, and we just got word that 51 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:38,959 we're supposed to get, we'll see how as long as they get everybody hired that 52 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:42,760 they are planning to, we'll have four 53 00:03:40,959 --> 00:03:48,400 full-time guys at the station come January 1st. 54 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:52,560 Which means we're running out of real estate down there. 55 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:59,480 And was wondering if there was a possibility of taking over the EMS 56 00:03:55,760 --> 00:04:02,400 building being that with the two bays there's room for training. 57 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:05,840 There's room for in the 58 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:10,200 uh for a meeting room. 59 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:14,920 Uh the Lions Club could still use it for their They do their drive-thru dinners 60 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:18,280 at the station now. And 61 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:22,360 they won't be able to once the district takes over for that. So, give them 62 00:04:20,079 --> 00:04:24,919 somewhere to be. And 63 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:27,960 any other I mean >> The Red Cross The Red Cross blood 64 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:31,480 drives. >> They won't be able to do that down 65 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:31,480 there. 66 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:41,560 Because it's for us cuz originally we was going to try to 67 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:47,120 get everything set up over there for us. But with them having trying to find 68 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:52,040 enough room for four ti- four people I just don't see 69 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:56,600 going to be any room. Where the EMS building's already set up 70 00:04:54,720 --> 00:05:01,000 for training. I got the big screen. I don't know if any of you 71 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:06,160 guys has been in there, but the one end they got the big screen and 72 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:10,760 for all your training and everything. And 73 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:17,040 I talked to Sam. He could tell you a little bit more, but 74 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:20,480 he's qualified to do CPR training. And once we 75 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:24,360 get that If we get that building 76 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:29,440 he can train well teachers down here to the 77 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:34,120 school or just the general public that would like CPR training. 78 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:37,760 Where over here there 79 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:42,280 we're pretty much I think it's going to be women to 80 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:46,600 maybe not the first year, but I pretty much guarantee 81 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:49,800 » I I see I don't see us putting money into that 82 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:52,680 when I don't know that it's going to last that long. 83 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:59,320 » They hit hit hit me up about it the other day and I talked to Renee. I said, 84 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:02,400 "Hey, what are your thoughts? Have they talked to you?" 85 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:06,600 She seemed pretty open to it that they share the building, but I told 86 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:09,400 somebody along the line, I said, "I don't know what if there's any concrete 87 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:12,200 plans on us staying here 88 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:17,520 cuz we had talked about moving down there, but are we staying here?" 89 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:20,600 I said that was the big >> Good question. 90 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:23,720 » Okay. >> No, I don't we I don't really know 91 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:28,080 because I guess 92 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:34,040 our decision will have to be made off of whatever the district's decision is 93 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:38,120 as to how they want to approach it. Whether they want to take this over. 94 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,120 » Right. 95 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:43,960 » Well, now it's up to you guys. The district ain't got anything in this 96 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:48,919 building. They've got it in that building. 97 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:53,480 But this building is >> As far as I know, all their plans are 98 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:59,560 in that in that footprint, so 99 00:06:56,200 --> 00:07:02,240 just put it all in that footprint. Yeah. 100 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:05,000 As I said, does Brian know any more than we do? 101 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:08,520 » Yeah, can I add a little So, I will say the district has not had any interest in 102 00:07:07,280 --> 00:07:13,840 this building. Uh their focus is is truly on the fire 103 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:17,440 department and they are curious what your plans are for the EMS building. If 104 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:23,680 there's a way maybe to share part of that. Um when I 105 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:26,680 say share, talking about supply storage. Um 106 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:30,160 I mean, the options are possible, but so I think they'll 107 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:33,760 probably further discussions or questions about what plans are for the 108 00:07:31,919 --> 00:07:38,080 EMS building. But right now, all the focus is is on the fire and and making 109 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:43,040 sure that's remodeled and suitable for living conditions. 110 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:48,480 » Okay. Well, from my end who's going to pay the insurance and and 111 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:52,640 the upkeep on the building down there? >> Well, we're going to try to figure 112 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:52,640 something out. 113 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:57,960 » I mean 114 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:05,200 from my side, that's one of the things I'd be concerned about. 115 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:13,480 You know, if it's temporary, that's one thing. If it's 116 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:17,280 if it's not, that's the reason we I would we we probably need to know what 117 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:22,080 their what their plan's going to be. 118 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:25,160 I mean, if it's all going to be over there, okay. 119 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:37,120 » When you're talking about if the district's 120 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:40,039 going to be partially down here on the 121 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:44,080 the paying everything or just the volunteers theirself down here? 122 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:47,600 » You mean down there? >> Yeah. 123 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:56,560 » Well, surely they're going to pay for the volunteers. 124 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:59,480 » I have no idea. If the district has anything 125 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:04,200 to do with the Inverness building, that'll fall under the district 126 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:04,200 insurance, utilities, all that. 127 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:08,960 » Okay. Well, no, that's that's 128 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:16,120 See, that's probably a workable situation. 129 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:19,920 And it would be better if it was temporary rather than permanent. 130 00:09:24,839 --> 00:09:33,440 » Just curious, so if you don't use that building 131 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:38,280 for the volunteers and the training and the district doesn't do anything with 132 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:43,320 that building, what would you do with that building? I mean, wouldn't it sit 133 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:46,280 empty anyway? Wouldn't you still have to pay the insurance 134 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:48,200 » I'd move town stuff into it. >> Okay. 135 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:50,680 » Yeah. Yeah. 136 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:56,880 And the whole premise of this thing is everything's supposed to be in one 137 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:56,880 location. 138 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:02,960 » Well, it sounds good. But how you going to 139 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:08,480 » Well, our >> bring all the volunteers to the fire 140 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:12,800 volunteers. The first four people here having living quarters. 141 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:17,240 Building's only so big unless they're adding on to 142 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:17,240 a bunch. 143 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:22,080 » So the the big thing, I guess, that I guess we're kind of confused about is 144 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:26,560 not like there's going to be trucks sitting down there or anything. This is 145 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:31,960 more for the community side of the fire department as well as training. 146 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:36,960 So, if we could, you know, have that building, we could use the bay portion 147 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:40,720 of it where the ambulances park as an indoor training ground for physical 148 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:45,560 training stuff. You know, we could put props in there, be out of the weather, 149 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:49,560 stuff like that. The back side is a fully equipped training room that the 150 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:53,040 EMS has spent a lot of money on over the years to build up to be a great training 151 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:55,520 room. And then down here at the fire 152 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:59,640 department, they're turning our training room into the living quarters. 153 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:03,600 Uh then also, like Rick mentioned, the 154 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:07,960 Lions Club does their pull-through dinners consistently at this fire 155 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:11,640 station. That won't be a thing anymore. All the community events, like the 156 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:15,160 community side of the fire station is done. Now that is a fire station that 157 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:18,839 makes runs. That's pretty much it. It houses 158 00:11:16,680 --> 00:11:24,400 firefighters and makes runs. So all the extracurricular events that 159 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:29,640 go on at the fire station will likely not be a thing anymore. 160 00:11:26,839 --> 00:11:36,160 So, when Rick's saying the Red Cross stuff, they currently do that at DMS. 161 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:39,200 Community CPR AED classes can be held there. 162 00:11:37,680 --> 00:11:42,520 And then like we said, the trainings that require you to 163 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:46,600 sit through PowerPoints and do that kind of stuff could be held down there as 164 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:51,600 well. That would be more of like the quote-unquote community center side of 165 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:58,280 the fire department that we've been doing for years. 166 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:58,280 » Right. No, I I get it. I just 167 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:07,160 I guess my concern is what our cost on it is. 168 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:13,920 I mean, if it's going to be covered by the district, 169 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:19,000 I don't have a problem with that as long as as long as they don't work at all 170 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:22,080 while >> I guess right now I don't see a 171 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:25,440 difference. There won't be any more cost to it. Like what it is right at this 172 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:29,360 moment, I guess. >> would be more cost to it because if I'm 173 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:34,680 going to have to pay insurance on it, I'm already paying for fire protection 174 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:37,240 through my taxes. That's what I'm saying. 175 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:47,668 » I guess you're paying insurance on it right now, 176 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:48,839 right? >> [clears throat] 177 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:53,200 » Yeah. And if you keep it without us going in 178 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:55,920 there, you'd still be paying taxes. >> I'll still pay insurance on it, but I'll 179 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:57,480 use it. >> Got you. 180 00:12:56,680 --> 00:13:00,040 » Oh, okay. I was I was hearing what he was 181 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:03,443 saying here. >> What were you saying? They weren't 182 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:03,443 » Yeah. [clears throat] 183 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:12,720 » Yeah, for the board, I suppose. No, that's from the town's side. That's 184 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:18,720 basically we're done there. That would be my take on it. 185 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:24,640 » Well, I guess I'm not 100% but I I would say if we're 186 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:30,440 forced to stay into this building with them with no room and nothing, 187 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:37,160 that we will lose more volunteers than 188 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:40,760 and you guys are just as well as us we're going to suffer 189 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:45,600 by it because you're not going to have the manpower. 190 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:49,320 » And that was my concern about it was if we don't have a place for them to 191 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:51,760 actually keep the volunteer fire department going, I'm afraid we're 192 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:56,440 pushing them out. That was why I was very much entertained 193 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:56,440 by the idea. 194 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:12,760 » No, what Brian says it is is on the insurance 195 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:17,240 That's I I would assume we would be fine with 196 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:21,960 it, but if we're going to pay the insurance and 197 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:25,040 the upkeep and the lights and the heat we're going to use it. 198 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:34,400 » Yeah, we aren't asking you to do like a takeover or anything. We're just 199 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:36,880 thinking if there's a way we can make it it's not going to be the rural volunteer 200 00:14:35,839 --> 00:14:40,839 fire department, it's going to be a community building. 201 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:44,560 And our thought is that everybody that has, you know, like this building's used 202 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:49,040 by the Lions Club, it's used by the Chamber of Commerce, it would be a 203 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:52,000 similar style thing unless you guys had a better plan for it. 204 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:56,080 Cuz we don't want to see another building sit vacant in town and 205 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:59,640 that building's currently used for stuff and this building's currently used for 206 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:04,280 stuff that won't be able to be anymore. So, if we could kind of 207 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:08,160 do something like that, that'd be nice to keep the community side of things 208 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:08,160 going. 209 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:15,640 » And so, Brian, you said that they would just be maybe wanting to use that for 210 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:17,600 storage, part of that for storage is possible. 211 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:21,040 » There's all the options are open. There's just 212 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:22,080 » No real plan for it right now, so. 213 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:25,840 » Further, >> yeah, but right now it's 214 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:29,560 the big question is, we know that the fire station 215 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:32,400 um will be part of the district. The town will 216 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:36,720 lease it or bill of sale whatever has to work. 217 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:41,040 Uh EMS just waiting on confirmation that that's also what the town wants to do is 218 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:45,720 to lease that or or have hand that transfer it over to the district with 219 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:49,320 When I say transfer it over and lease it, it's always a stipulation of if it's 220 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:53,280 never been It's not going to be used for the district for the fire station or 221 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:56,040 training facility or whatever they reverse it back to the town. 222 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:58,480 Um which is what Pueblo is going to be 223 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:02,040 doing. So, if if the EMS building is something the 224 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:06,440 town also wants to transfer to the district, then 225 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:09,120 then that can happen. I think that there should be some collaboration though 226 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:12,280 between the district and what the town wants it to be used for. So, if the fire 227 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:15,080 department wants to use it for for things, I think that needs to be 228 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:18,480 part of the conversation uh before we turn anything over. 229 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:19,840 » Right. I agree with >> All right. 230 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:23,920 » Yeah. >> Is there any truth to the rumors we're 231 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:26,400 hearing that there might be four? >> Yeah. 232 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:30,520 » People have done that the first time. >> The plan is four. Uh it is contingent 233 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:33,320 upon getting 15 to 20 civilian paramedics. 234 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:36,120 But, the battalion chief will be stationed out here. 235 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:38,880 Um they're going to put a battalion chief 236 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:42,240 in each corner of the county and one in the center or 237 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:46,400 east side. Um 238 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:50,480 and then with the three firefighter medics out here, that will give you your 239 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:50,480 four. 240 00:16:54,080 --> 00:17:00,360 Pueblo has three assigned to it. When I say three, it's for 24 hours, you 241 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:02,480 need three. >> Yeah. 242 00:17:06,319 --> 00:17:12,079 » And when it comes to the civilian paramedics, uh they 243 00:17:09,839 --> 00:17:16,199 we're looking at the the areas that need the paramedics the most, which is out 244 00:17:14,959 --> 00:17:19,640 here. And so, that's where those those 245 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:23,199 positions be filled first uh before they spread the paramedics out 246 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:26,640 to other other other areas of the county. 247 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:36,040 » Cuz it would be To me, it would be nice if 248 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:41,960 some of the the uppers would come out and maybe sit 249 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:46,320 and talk with the fire or even the town or whatever. 250 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:51,200 Cuz we had the meeting over here and since then 251 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:55,480 I haven't heard nothing. And one of the main comments was is 252 00:17:53,920 --> 00:18:00,400 we're going to have to get the warrior in on this 253 00:17:56,880 --> 00:18:04,800 getting these trucks figured out, so we and that's been 254 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:09,560 what? A month, 6 weeks ago? >> 6 weeks. 255 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:15,680 » And we haven't heard one thing about signing for the use of the trucks or 256 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:21,120 or anything. >> So, the there's more plan meetings for 257 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:24,000 out here. The first meeting we had was more of 258 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:27,320 the goal was to receive the information from the volunteer side of what they 259 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:32,600 want the structure to look like and what what means most to to the volunteers. 260 00:18:30,360 --> 00:18:35,800 And since then it it's not a it's not easy decision to make right away. 261 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:38,680 Um if it was, the district would just say, 262 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:41,800 "You're doing this and this is how we're doing it." So, what they've done is 263 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:45,360 taken a lot of feedback and there was good feedback from out here 264 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:48,280 uh into consideration to look at the legal side of stuff, to see what 265 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:51,880 precedence been set out there, see what insurance says we can and can't do. And 266 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:55,520 so, all that stuff's been happening behind the scenes and I think we're at a 267 00:18:53,360 --> 00:19:00,360 very good spot where we can come out and lay out a preliminary structure of what 268 00:18:58,120 --> 00:19:05,040 the volunteer side looks like along with career and see how well that's 269 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:07,600 is received and if we need to make any tweaks, we would 270 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:10,640 go back and make some more tweaks on that. 271 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:15,240 Uh regarding the buildings and the apparatus, um 272 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:19,160 there is uh the district just asked yesterday to get a list 273 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:21,720 of the buildings, the apparatus and 274 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:27,440 equipment of what the the department, the town 275 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:31,600 would like to transfer over to the district and then get that list put 276 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:34,760 together and then between the the attorneys of the 277 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:39,160 district and then also the attorneys of the town and the fire department, all 278 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:44,080 the entities that own this equipment can work together to get that agreement in 279 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:48,120 place of what that transfer looks like. Right now we just need the first list to 280 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:48,120 start. 281 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:53,240 » Transfer meaning no consideration? Is that what everybody's doing? 282 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:56,800 » Uh I have actually a phone call on Friday 283 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:59,760 morning with the attorneys to to ask because they're they're they're saying 284 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:02,680 for the real estate, typically it's a bill of sale with the the exception in 285 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:06,320 there of >> Right, a reversion. 286 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:11,000 » Yep. Yep. Um the equipment and all that is more of of just the 287 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:14,080 the transfer of ownership whatever they call that. 288 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:17,440 Uh and then we can set that price for whatever it is. I think most everyone's 289 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:21,000 going with a dollar. Um I did have questions about leasing 290 00:20:19,360 --> 00:20:24,360 because a lot of the other departments do a lease program. 291 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:28,320 Uh all the townships, I'm sorry, have a lease program with with the districts 292 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:31,880 and that's what they want to talk to me about on Friday morning to see what that 293 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:37,800 lease would look like. >> So when it comes to the real estate 294 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:39,320 do they lease or is the lease like $1? Is that what it is? 295 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:44,200 » $1, yeah. >> But do then does the district then pay 296 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:49,960 for the upkeep and so they would take care of the HVAC and all of the 297 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:54,200 » Yes, everything. The insurance, for example, PO, I think they sold 298 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:57,520 theirs, but their sale to Southwest Fire District was 299 00:20:56,000 --> 00:21:01,520 contingent upon that station is no longer an operating fire station that it 300 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:03,960 would revert back to the township before the price that they paid for, which was 301 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:06,280 a dollar. >> Got it. 302 00:21:14,360 --> 00:21:20,280 » No, I don't think that it would probably be a problem to do that down there. I 303 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:26,120 just I'm just looking at it from the 304 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:26,120 from the side that 305 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:34,360 if we're raising their taxes to take care of certain things 306 00:21:34,949 --> 00:21:40,440 » [clears throat] >> we shouldn't have to spend any more 307 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:43,080 money. That's what my point is. >> But I guess if I look at it the way 308 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:47,080 you're looking at it and if it's your point of view 309 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:49,880 » that's that's different. 310 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:55,360 » But if I look at it the true point of view, I'm paying taxes, why in the hell 311 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:59,280 should we even volunteer then? Cuz we're paying 312 00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:05,200 we're paying just as much as everybody else and we're still volunteering. 313 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:07,760 So, by looking at the way you're thinking 314 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:11,640 is yeah, we 315 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:15,000 » The way I'm thinking is I'm looking out for the taxpayer. 316 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:18,800 » Yeah. And so am I and you got to do with 317 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:24,440 whatever you can do on the tax side of it far as making 318 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:28,480 things but I'm just thinking the same thing is 319 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:34,880 we're paying the same amount of taxes everybody else but yet we're still 320 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:37,920 volunteers and we're getting pretty much nothing for it. 321 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:48,160 But yeah, we can go on. I think we've 322 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:50,760 beat this one enough that No, I don't know until we can find out 323 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:53,280 from the administration. >> we 324 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:57,520 we see what you know, is this a year thing or is it 325 00:22:55,640 --> 00:23:01,520 a five-year thing? >> I mean, I guess for us 326 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:04,680 we were looking at it like separate from the district, I guess. 327 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:13,880 » Why would that Why would we do that? >> You mean the building? This building? 328 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:18,080 » It it would be I mean, cuz the volunteers and the paid 329 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:21,440 guys are going to be treated different. I I I mean, it's given. 330 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:24,640 » I mean, we're still we're going to be separate entities at the end. 331 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:26,800 » Right. But 332 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:37,360 » So, if Wait. So, is it in the plan for us to lease 333 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:42,800 that building also for a dollar? The fire and the EMS building? Is that 334 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:45,440 what the intention was originally? >> No. 335 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:47,080 It was all going to be under one building. 336 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:49,281 » just that building. >> Yeah. [snorts] 337 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:55,560 » But Brian, you said that they've been [clears throat] asking about this 338 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:58,640 building and the fire and the EMS building. 339 00:23:56,480 --> 00:24:01,560 » Not really asking. It's Like I said, the focus has been on making sure this is up 340 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:06,080 and running cuz they'd like to get the ambulance down here, so it's all in one 341 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:10,240 building. Make sure that's livable. They're 342 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:13,640 I guess the big question mark is is that building going to be also turned over to 343 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:17,760 the district to be able to use. And if so, like I said [clears throat] earlier, 344 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:20,800 if it is, I would make it depending on what you want to use it 345 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:24,720 for, contingent upon they can use it, but also the town wants to use it for 346 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:27,880 whatever. And I I think I think the >> the things that Brian was just 347 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:31,000 mentioning, which is seems reasonable to me. 348 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:46,640 » For example, the Holden fire, uh we're we're looking at building a new 349 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:49,960 This is kind of small scale, but putting a larger 350 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:54,160 uh shed in the back because we have a ton of chairs and tables that are just 351 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:59,400 all over the place in the back room. Need to get those moved out. And they're 352 00:24:56,760 --> 00:25:03,240 Holden fire's disabled and chairs. And so, we're building this larger shed, and 353 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:06,240 half of it's going to be where the mower and all that stuff's going to be where 354 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:08,840 the the members that's there at the station will be able to use the mower to 355 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:11,440 grass, but the back part's going to be where all the tables and chairs and 356 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:14,960 stuff that's holding fires that 357 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:17,800 we want to continue using that the district doesn't really have any 358 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:20,080 interest in. Um 359 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:23,480 we're going to store that stuff in in the back there. So, it'll be a building 360 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:28,400 the structure will be covered under the insurance of the district. 361 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:32,280 Um but, we are going to be using part of it for holding fires. 362 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:39,280 » Well, now we'll we'll figure it out. Where I was at was saying 363 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:41,880 You're part of the Holden Fire Department, right? 364 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:48,800 What are your guys' plans for your volunteers 365 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:50,960 coordinating with the career? I mean, are you guys still training in 366 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:55,960 that building? >> Yeah. Yes. Um 367 00:25:53,320 --> 00:26:00,200 I know I I hear I hear a lot 368 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:03,160 concerns based upon maybe what others have seen throughout the county over the 369 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:06,280 years when it comes to the volunteers and the career. 370 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:10,640 I'll just say this, I'm heavily involved in the district, and I've been really 371 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:14,720 pushing hard about the volunteer uh presence within this district and 372 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:18,560 creating that structure, and I um 373 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:22,880 if I didn't feel like it was going to be possible, I'm I mean, I'm I'm wasting my 374 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:26,480 time here. I I've been spending a lot of time involved in it, especially with the 375 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:30,000 information that came from from out here with all the the volunteers and ensuring 376 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:36,200 that that continues to be uh pushed forward. And there's been some 377 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:39,600 some push back on some things that, you know, career uh 378 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:43,240 career firefighters are used to doing, not understanding the volunteer side. 379 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:47,080 I feel like it's my role to try to make sure that's visible, and I feel really 380 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:50,480 confident where we're at. So, yes, uh Holden Fire, 381 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:55,040 uh the training training's available out there. Also, there will be uh 382 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:58,760 a schedule to see where the trainings are at in the county. So, if there is a 383 00:26:56,600 --> 00:27:01,640 training that night at Hopland, they can go someplace else in the in the county 384 00:27:00,120 --> 00:27:04,040 to get trained. Um 385 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:06,880 making accommodations cuz our trainings usually Thursday nights. So, we're 386 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:09,640 looking at doing Thursday night and Saturday morning trainings 387 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:13,880 um out there at Hopland. Not every single 388 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:18,000 Thursday Saturday, but that's when the trainings to accommodate the schedules 389 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:22,880 for the volunteers. Um 390 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:28,400 and uh more more a lot more joint trainings between Laurel Hill, 391 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:30,760 Hopland, and uh possibly uh oh um 392 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:33,760 So, those are those are all the expectations. 393 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:40,280 I don't I I know some people don't believe this, 394 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:46,280 but I I don't see much changing when it comes to the volunteer activity early 395 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:49,920 on. Uh because we have three people getting on a truck, that next truck's 396 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:53,840 got to be staffed by somebody. Someday when we get to possibly six 397 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:58,320 people at a station, uh that's a point where I think it it'll 398 00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:01,320 it'll uh make it difficult for the volunteers to make runs because by the 399 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:04,360 time they get to the station, the first two trucks are going to be out the door, 400 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:07,280 and there might not be anything else to take. Um 401 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:11,520 and I recognize that, but I that's probably going to be something that's 402 00:28:08,360 --> 00:28:14,320 more 8 to 10 years down the road. >> I'm going to say that. 403 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:17,400 Good afternoon. sandwich 404 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,400 Good afternoon. 405 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:29,000 » What did he say? >> So, that that answers your question. 406 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:33,240 » No, as far as if that comes back to the if if that building down there 407 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:41,920 if the if that's going to be the town, 408 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:46,440 we'll put equipment in the two bays that's there. 409 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:51,240 And then the training room could be used for whatever. It will be no big deal. 410 00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:02,920 You agree, Rich? >> Yes. Yes. 411 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:07,760 You know, I got I said the whole the whole premise we got forced into this is 412 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:12,640 everything had to be done at one spot. So, now you know, like it's the EMS 413 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:16,720 building. So, now the fire department wants to take over the building for 414 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:20,680 training purposes. Why I mean, if you're training for the fire department, why 415 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:26,760 wouldn't you want to train for the fire inspection with all your equipment on? 416 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,760 It makes no sense to me. 417 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:33,720 » Is it just it Is it just your thought that it might happen that you'll get 418 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:37,240 pushed out? >> Yeah. 419 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:39,560 » There's really no good place to train you guys. 420 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:44,120 » Yeah. And like if we're talking classroom training here, 421 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:47,640 EMS has a fully equipped classroom. And I'm not saying we want to take over the 422 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:52,280 whole building. Like I said, we want it to be a community building 423 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:56,640 for the community to use. And you can't put drives upstairs cuz 424 00:29:54,520 --> 00:30:01,920 people can't walk up the stairs and stuff like that. We can dump a bunch 425 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:05,880 of money cuz the districts already said all they're doing is plain flooring and 426 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:09,400 new paint. That is it. They're not touching anything else up there. 427 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:13,640 And it needs a lot more than that and they are not touching it. 428 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:18,360 So, if the fire department was to spend our own money to remodel the upstairs to 429 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:23,440 be an almost okay similar comparable 430 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:28,000 training room to the EMS, there's nothing that says when there is six 431 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:32,280 people over here, they don't just tear it all out or kick us out and make the 432 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:35,480 upstairs a bunk room like they're doing to the downstairs. 433 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:39,400 Cuz right now there's going to be four guys over there 434 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:43,200 and there's no way you can have more than four guys there without ripping out 435 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:49,360 the living quarters and completely redoing it. It's you can't do it. 436 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,360 So. 437 00:30:54,200 --> 00:31:01,000 Ideally, it would be fantastic to have everything in the same spot. 438 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:05,360 And if they could, you know, take out one of our bays and completely redo all 439 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:10,200 that the correct way like they should be doing, that would be awesome. But 440 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:10,200 they're not going to do that, so. 441 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:18,320 » Let me let me talk to the EMS before we do 442 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,320 anything. 443 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:26,480 They've got a lot of work in that building, so. 444 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:33,520 I'm not going to I'm not I don't want to volunteer something that that 445 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:39,560 will cause more problems. >> I guess if you're asking I I 446 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,560 I'll just give myself 447 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,680 » I did. 448 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,600 Matt. 449 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:57,600 Yes. >> I am representing the company I work for 450 00:31:54,160 --> 00:32:02,200 tonight. Um we have a past-due invoice of $8,400 451 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:06,640 for a pole assembly and a hand that evidently was knocked down and it 452 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:10,880 was due on May 23rd. >> It's 453 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:14,160 just sent out with the main into that. >> Okay. 454 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:15,880 » The check was just sent out to Indianapolis. 455 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,960 » Okay. >> To my home office. 456 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:21,000 » Okay. >> Yeah. 457 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,000 » Okay. Good bye. 458 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:28,200 » Has the invoice been paid? >> No, because this is the the liability 459 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:32,577 one where it was hit by >> Right, but the liability is not my 460 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:36,440 company's issue and >> [snorts] 461 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:42,560 » and you're 90 days past due. My salesman is on $8,400. He can't get 462 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:48,000 his paychecks because they make they get paid on commission. 463 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:54,080 So, this is a huge issue. I always used to order parts for the town in good 464 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:56,440 faith. We were always paid. I actually >> They've always They've always been good 465 00:32:56,000 --> 00:33:02,040 with us. >> And and I all and I quoted this. 466 00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:06,000 And I would have no idea it was not approved when it was ordered. 467 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:08,360 » I don't have an issue with that being paid. We still can pursue people 468 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:12,360 » No, just 469 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:17,000 just go ahead and pay it. Wherever you can pay it out of and then 470 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:23,800 we will get the money back from the We filed charges on the guy, so 471 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:23,800 Yeah. 472 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:29,400 Okay. That. 473 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:33,840 » Tim. >> Well, I did have a question those two 474 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:37,000 lots [clears throat] on Barnhart. Do I need to order the appraisal or are 475 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:40,400 you doing that? >> You want me to? I can. 476 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:42,920 » I don't care. I don't know which lots they are, so if 477 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,520 you want me to do it, I just need to know 478 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,720 » the addresses. >> I can get them. 479 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:50,160 » Okay. Okay. 480 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:52,600 » This has to be a licensed appraiser, correct? 481 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:55,120 » Mhm. >> Okay. 482 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:07,560 » Bobby. >> Um do we want to do the budget hearing 483 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:11,000 on the 16th or the 21st of this month? >> I thought we had it scheduled. 484 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:13,399 » I'm just double-checking. Right now, it's scheduled for the 16th. 485 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,960 » Yeah, that's what I have. >> What time? 486 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,840 7:00. >> 7:00, same as the 487 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,560 » conflict. 488 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:27,240 I mean, it's 6:30, I'm pretty sure. What do you prefer, 5:00 or 7:00? 489 00:34:25,639 --> 00:34:30,120 » What now? >> We have to do like the open hearing for 490 00:34:29,159 --> 00:34:33,480 the budget. >> Right. 491 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:38,679 On September what now? 492 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,679 » 16th or 23rd? 493 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:48,200 » Probably the 16th. 494 00:34:48,240 --> 00:34:51,919 I don't know. What is >> Does everyone have to be here? Cuz I 495 00:34:51,159 --> 00:34:54,879 have a I >> Got to have a 496 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:56,399 We got to have a quorum. >> So 497 00:34:55,600 --> 00:35:01,040 » I can be >> You can be here and Rich can take the 498 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:01,040 minutes for that. 499 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:06,880 Unless Mike makes it gets over it. 500 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:10,400 Starts at 6:00. >> Can you be here at the 16th, Rich? 501 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:15,280 » Yes. >> Okay. 7:00? 502 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,280 » Yeah. 503 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:25,960 » How about you, Chad? You good? Yeah. >> He said he's good. 504 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,960 » Okay. I'm good. So 505 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,280 » What time? 6:00? 506 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:32,120 » Or 7:00? >> 7:00. 507 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:35,920 » 7:00. >> Cuz at 6:00 I can make it. 508 00:35:33,720 --> 00:35:35,920 » Okay. 509 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,920 Allen Street 510 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:51,960 to redo Allen Street 511 00:35:52,240 --> 00:35:55,840 and to do it properly. 512 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:03,320 The state will kick in $668,000. 513 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:10,720 But we have to kick in 368. 514 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:25,560 And 200,000 of that is water line. There's no reason to 515 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:27,800 repave the street until there's a water line. 516 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:38,240 Mhm? 200,000. 517 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:38,240 See, the state goes 75/25 518 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:48,800 on drainage and paved. So, our 519 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:48,800 their their share is 668,000. 520 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:52,800 Ours would have been 168,000. 521 00:36:53,480 --> 00:37:02,920 But, with the water line we got to pay that out of pocket. 522 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:08,720 And I guess my question Bobby and I just talked about this. 523 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,720 There's 524 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:16,440 places we can get the money. Seed is probably the easiest. 525 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:22,880 But, do we want to it's going to leave us 526 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:24,920 without a lot of money. >> Don't use TIF. 527 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:29,640 » Pardon? >> Don't use TIF. 528 00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:37,000 That TIF fund, that's infrastructure. >> I I think it has to be 529 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:40,560 in a designated TIF area. >> Does that go 530 00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:45,200 Well, how far are we going on Allen Street? 531 00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:45,200 » We're going to the forest. 532 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:50,680 » Can you still have that money? >> I'm going to bet 533 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:53,160 you have it there, Tim. >> Maybe. 534 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:06,280 » What Bobby, what are we paying out for water thing? I know you said we had 535 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:10,880 172,000, right? In the water. 536 00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:13,680 » Yes. So, just the water utility right now, it's 537 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:18,120 uh payable I think out of what it is 538 00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:24,240 quarter. And then just any uh repairs that we have to do, supplies, 539 00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:26,480 uh chemicals. Things like that. 540 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:31,440 » Okay. We don't have a bond. 541 00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:34,440 » We do, actually. >> Okay. That was what That's what I 542 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:39,240 thought. >> In July, we just had a bond payment come 543 00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,240 out. 544 00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:47,080 » Do you remember about how much it was? >> The payment was 545 00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:49,480 » It's not like >> 40 546 00:39:01,240 --> 00:39:08,560 I want to say it was like 45,000. Was the payment that came out. 24,000 547 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:11,280 was principal and 16 something was interest. 548 00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:17,640 » And that'll be due again next year. Correct. Every 6 months. 549 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:22,680 » I think it's beginning of the month or beginning of the year, yeah. So 550 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,680 » Okay. That's 551 00:39:22,720 --> 00:39:29,800 That's We could probably take a little money out of that account, correct? Or 552 00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:33,160 not? >> I'm sure there is. 553 00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:37,800 » Okay. Okay. 554 00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:41,520 And we have how much in storm drainage, too? 555 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:46,640 You I know you gave me all these numbers, but they're they're all home on 556 00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,640 my desk. 557 00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:07,800 » So, the storm sewer balance >> It's 100 something what now? 558 00:40:04,240 --> 00:40:10,800 » At the end of July, it was 183,000. >> 183,000. 559 00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:17,920 Okay. Part of that is storm drainage, too. So 560 00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:27,640 if we took some out of water and some out of storm, 561 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:37,120 probably have to take the rest out of it. Where's the TIFF district? Yeah, I 562 00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:37,480 need to get the map out. I 563 00:40:37,283 --> 00:40:39,400 » [snorts] >> I 564 00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:42,480 » From South Street to Webster. >> I thought we 565 00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:44,720 Well, how far? >> To Webster, this intersection right 566 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:47,440 here. They basically do from South Street to 567 00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:49,920 the post office. >> Oh, god. 568 00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:55,720 If South Street to the post office, we could take money out of it because 569 00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:58,240 that's part of it. >> Right. 570 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:06,720 » I just want to make sure that before I tell them 571 00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:10,560 we can do it, that we can do it, that we've got the money. 572 00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:23,600 » At In-Seeded at the end of July, there's 676,000 573 00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:23,600 in 574 00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:28,000 » In-Seeded, yeah. 575 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,600 » And then 576 00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:37,760 » If if I don't really want to drain Seeded 577 00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:43,200 because Seeded's easier to when you have emergencies, it's easier 578 00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:43,200 to use that money. 579 00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:52,840 But we could take some out of the TIFF. We could take some out of Seeded and we 580 00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:57,960 could take some out of water and storm drainage. 581 00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:03,640 Are you confident that we're okay money-wise? 582 00:42:03,720 --> 00:42:09,000 » I don't like spending that much money, especially when we're doing another 583 00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:16,400 project with the Columbus and Prospect. So, it makes me nervous to do both. 584 00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:16,400 » Okay, well, see that's going 585 00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:22,760 I'm trying to remember how much that was. 586 00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:45,400 See, the only downside to not doing it 587 00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:51,960 is $668,000 is state money. 588 00:42:56,640 --> 00:43:05,760 » How much would we need out of like our portion of the Columbus and Prospect? 589 00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:11,560 » That'll be 75/25. They're paying 75, we're paying 25. 590 00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:13,800 On both of the projects. >> Yeah. 591 00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:15,800 » On both of the projects, that's the way they both work. 592 00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:20,360 » Yeah. Yeah, that's [snorts] 593 00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:22,960 » So, what are we looking at dollar amount for that one? 594 00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:29,320 » I don't remember how much it was now. 595 00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:34,440 I know it was going to take it out of state. 596 00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:11,040 I thought our portion was 140,000 I think. 597 00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:21,920 600 500,000 598 00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:25,960 I think. We've got maybe about 500,000. 599 00:44:30,465 --> 00:44:35,920 » [snorts] >> I don't really want to let the 668 go 600 00:44:33,240 --> 00:44:35,920 by. 601 00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:45,400 » But I'm sure >> We could probably take 150 or 200 out of 602 00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:47,440 out of TIF. 603 00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:50,760 » Okay. >> That's 971 604 00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:55,880 I think. >> Okay. So, yeah. 605 00:44:53,520 --> 00:45:01,440 As long as we can use I would say a third 606 00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:03,800 on in TIF, then I think we should be good. 607 00:45:02,240 --> 00:45:07,520 » Okay. Okay. 608 00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:10,440 Are you guys okay with doing that? >> Sure. 609 00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:12,880 » Good. Okay. 610 00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:20,160 Yeah. >> I just had 611 00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:22,280 a couple of people complaining about the conditions of 612 00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:26,040 the landscaping done in the 613 00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:29,600 park. So, everything that you do about the 614 00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:33,960 dead display I wouldn't worry about that. It's not 615 00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:38,680 » That's the email I forwarded to you. >> Oh, yeah. 616 00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:43,920 So, >> I just I got a picture of a tree that's 617 00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:47,560 leaning and and dead foliage. 618 00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:53,200 » I didn't The only looking briefly through her email and the photos, we 619 00:45:50,240 --> 00:45:56,800 could maybe get her them for the garden. For the weeds being too high, but I'm 620 00:45:54,840 --> 00:46:02,120 not seeing anything in there. I know she cited the bushes 621 00:45:59,720 --> 00:46:06,800 could possibly could on fire, but there's nothing in that the ordinances 622 00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:11,680 that I have found that I can compel somebody to rip bushes out for fire 623 00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:14,840 hazard reasons. So, I I think that 624 00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:19,360 I think you were going to look over it when we needed to make a face-to-face to 625 00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:22,840 brainstorm anything further, but I think at most we could maybe hit them with a 626 00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:25,760 weed violation ticket for the that's overgrown. 627 00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:30,440 But, if they want to let it I know one of the email concerns is they just 628 00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:34,640 put a bunch of stuff on like they just redid the roof down there and they have 629 00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:38,360 a tree growing onto it. That's a them problem. If they want to 630 00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:44,280 spend a bunch money on a roof and then not prune a tree but prune a tree back 631 00:46:41,240 --> 00:46:47,600 to keep their investment safe. That's That's a them problem, not a not 632 00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:51,720 a town problem. Unless I'm missing something. 633 00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:53,640 » That's what town body think you're thinking. 634 00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:58,160 I'm just trying to break it >> And the same with some of the other 635 00:46:55,200 --> 00:47:02,960 overhanging trees like I know there's I have to get back into 636 00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:07,400 the roots of it in regards to I think certain things there can't 637 00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:10,400 overhang so far, but how do we judge that? Also, how do we 638 00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:14,840 judge that? And some of that is 639 00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:14,840 I guess 640 00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:19,760 And whatever list that I was going to make doesn't make any point as a town 641 00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:24,560 ordinance, but how do how do we judge that though of 642 00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:29,920 overhanging and what what precedence are we going to set 643 00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:34,960 within judging that in regards to tree overhanging and 644 00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:38,640 But, I think that I know the town will easiest one will be the garden, but it's 645 00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:43,160 again, it's just you can take a street sweeper and 646 00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:46,280 get all that out of there and you know, unless there's something 647 00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:49,400 I'm missing. 648 00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:57,680 Cuz she sent me an email, called me, and sent me the email with a bunch of stuff. 649 00:47:56,120 --> 00:48:01,160 I did look over it. That's the only That's I really jumped out. 650 00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:04,200 I can do >> There wasn't nothing that really jumped 651 00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:10,120 out there. >> I put some more time into it and sift 652 00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:13,840 through them more, but I don't think we have we have tall 653 00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:19,040 grass. I don't know if we have enough 654 00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:24,640 to cover nuisances for the trees. I just I don't know if we would if we 655 00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:28,480 if that's broad enough to cover tree or I get I 656 00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:31,640 grass being too tall and how that could bring in other critters and how that is 657 00:48:30,240 --> 00:48:34,600 nuisance issues. 658 00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:37,720 I can dig a little deeper just to make sure all this is complied. 659 00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:46,200 » Joe, no. Uh we're we do have one tree at Central 660 00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:52,160 on Webster. It's that the town's going to take take 661 00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:57,680 down. It's it's huge. 662 00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:57,680 And it's 663 00:48:58,240 --> 00:49:01,280 it's hollow. 664 00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:11,400 And we got prices from a couple different places, but I 665 00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:19,000 honestly don't remember what they were, but Joe and Wiggans was by far the 666 00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:19,000 cheapest, and Joe has insurance, so 667 00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:35,000 I've got some notices that I'm going to have you deliver hand deliver 668 00:49:33,079 --> 00:49:40,040 » [snorts] >> at 409 Elm and 669 00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:50,360 but I've got to update the date because Tim sent them to me. 670 00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:56,400 And I just printed them today, and you sent 671 00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:59,360 them all to me on the 17th. I realized that. 672 00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:04,920 So, I will update the dates. And then 673 00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:11,040 » I'll follow up with you Friday. >> Um yeah, 202 row just take a look at 674 00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:14,560 them ahead of time and 409. 675 00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:19,800 » Motion to adjourn. >> Vote to adjourn. 676 00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:23,160 » No. >> No, we're good. 677 00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:26,080 » Tim makes a motion. >> I'll second. 678 00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:29,920 » Got a motion and a second. All those in favor signify by saying aye. 679 00:50:28,720 --> 00:50:33,640 Aye. All opposed, same sign. 680 00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:43,220 » [music]