[1:57] I love you. [2:15] » It's amazing. [2:22] » I love you. [2:31] » They all come down to the bottom. [2:33] And I have good friends. [2:39] » Okay. [3:10] » Thank you. [3:19] » Really? [3:47] » I love [4:57] » Good morning everybody and welcome to [4:59] the information session for the [5:00] Montgomery County Commission today, [5:03] August 11th, 2026. [5:06] I'm going to ask Reverend Dwayne [5:07] Limerick Flatline Church to lead us in [5:10] invocation. [5:12] >> All right, let us pray. [5:14] » All right, let us pray. [5:14] Our Father God in the mighty, awesome, [5:16] powerful, matchless name of Jesus, we [5:19] come to you this morning with [5:20] Thanksgiving and gratefulness on our [5:22] heart. God, we thank you for breathing [5:24] your breath into us today [5:26] and giving us an opportunity to enjoy [5:28] this day that you have made. God, thank [5:30] you for what you are doing here in our [5:32] city, Lord God, and no matter what going [5:35] on, you still in charge. And God, we ask [5:37] that the Holy Spirit that you will lead [5:39] us as we conduct your business today and [5:42] that you will lead all the decisions [5:43] that made today and that that will [5:45] distribute your funds the way that will [5:47] please you and that would put a smile on [5:49] your face. God, I ask that you bless [5:51] each and every person that's in this [5:53] place today and even the ones that might [5:54] be tuning in later. Lord God, deal with [5:57] all of us according to your will. In [5:59] Jesus' name we pray. Amen. [6:08] » Good morning. [6:10] >> Is Commissioner [6:11] » Is Commissioner [6:11] Harris [6:12] >> He's not going to join us this morning. [6:14] » He's not going to join us this morning. [6:14] >> Oh, he's not, okay. [6:15] » Oh, he's not, okay. [6:15] >> No, sir. [6:18] » Thank you for having a meeting just for [6:19] me here, Regina. [6:20] >> I know, right? [6:21] » I know, right? [6:21] Your other commissioner just left. [6:23] >> Yeah, he's coming back and and I know [6:24] » Yeah, he's coming back and and I know [6:24] Commissioner Costanzos [6:26] >> He's running he's he's coming. [6:28] » He's running he's he's coming. [6:28] And I think Carmack is coming. [6:29] >> Carmack is coming, too, so. [6:31] » Carmack is coming, too, so. [6:31] >> Yes, sir. [6:32] » Yes, sir. [6:32] >> not talked with her, though. [6:37] We get a lot of things done today, we [6:38] can't we? [6:40] >> If they knew you were sitting here [6:41] » If they knew you were sitting here [6:42] alone, they would get a speeding ticket. [6:43] >> Oh, yeah, [laughter] no doubt. [6:49] » Anybody want to sing a little music [6:51] while you wait? [7:02] Go ahead and go. [7:03] >> Yeah, let's go ahead and go through [7:04] » Yeah, let's go ahead and go through [7:04] this. [7:04] >> There we go. [7:14] Good morning. [7:16] We do not have any scheduled attendees [7:17] for this morning, Chairman. [7:19] So, items to be considered at the 10:00 [7:21] session. [7:22] Consider the donation of two [7:24] decommissioned vehicles to Trenholm [7:26] State Community College Police [7:27] Department, Montgomery County Sheriff's [7:29] Office. [7:32] Consider memorandum of understanding [7:33] with the City of Montgomery for the [7:35] special election for City Council [7:37] District 3. [7:40] Consider FY 2027 annual transportation [7:43] plan as per Rebuild Alabama Act [7:46] Engineering Department. [7:48] Consider professional services agreement [7:50] with Thomas P. Miller and Associates LLC [7:53] regarding Montgomery County strategic [7:55] plan. [7:56] Consider the appointment of Richard [7:58] Williams [8:00] to the Montgomery County Department of [8:02] Human Resources Board for a term ending [8:05] September 5th, 2029. [8:08] Consider miscellaneous appropriations to [8:10] agencies. Any additions? [8:17] Okay. [8:19] Consider miscellaneous appropriations to [8:20] education. Any additions? [8:25] » No, just remind [8:27] all of commissioners that [8:29] the fiscal year ends September 30th, so [8:32] uh next month [8:34] if you want to make some appropriations. [8:36] >> You're going to have a nice attendance [8:37] » You're going to have a nice attendance [8:37] in September. [8:38] >> Yeah. Get plenty. [8:42] » Consider miscellaneous appropriations to [8:44] designated revenue. [8:48] » Yeah, uh [8:50] >> Any additions? I'm sorry. [8:51] » Any additions? I'm sorry. [8:52] >> we want to talk about Flatline Coalition [8:55] » we want to talk about Flatline Coalition [8:55] Community Coalition, right? [8:58] Foundation. Uh I sent a email out to [9:01] everybody on that uh [9:04] uh [9:05] Dwayne, you want to come up and kind of [9:07] explain what what your dilemma is and [9:10] again for us, I know with the the [9:11] building and all [9:12] >> [clears throat] [9:13] » [clears throat] [9:13] >> what you had to do. [9:14] » what you had to do. [9:14] >> Yes, thank you. Uh well, um [9:17] » Yes, thank you. Uh well, um [9:17] I will church building is the hub for [9:19] where we host our um nonprofit. What we [9:23] run everything up out of it. That's what [9:24] we do our uh did our hold our summer [9:27] program. We have our uh feeding programs [9:30] that we do every Sunday. We also host um [9:33] free legal aid every first and third [9:35] Tuesday. We're doing that for 5 years um [9:38] with Montgomery Volunteer [9:39] Montgomery Volunteer Law Program. The [9:41] building is very very old as we continue [9:43] to [9:44] um add, you know, [9:47] we were having ACs and things like that [9:49] donated to us, but it was on a fuse [9:52] system and we're trying to transfer over [9:54] to a breaker box. [9:56] And we can't have volunteers take care [9:58] of that. We need, you know, professional [10:00] people to come in. [10:02] >> And you've already spent [10:04] » And you've already spent [10:04] about $10,000 already, right? [10:06] >> Well, we did. [10:07] » Well, we did. [10:07] >> halfway done, right? [10:08] » halfway done, right? [10:08] >> Well, we didn't spend it. We just told [10:09] » Well, we didn't spend it. We just told [10:10] them that we had the money coming, so [10:11] they came in and did the work. We're [10:13] halfway done. [10:13] >> summer camp there all summer, hadn't [10:15] » summer camp there all summer, hadn't [10:15] you? [10:15] >> Yeah, we do it every year. [10:17] » Yeah, we do it every year. [10:17] >> And you had to suspend camp just because [10:19] » And you had to suspend camp just because [10:19] of the electrical [10:20] >> We did. Yeah, about 3 weeks we, you [10:23] » We did. Yeah, about 3 weeks we, you [10:23] know, we had to find other places to [10:25] take the youth to to [10:28] continue with our program, but yes, sir. [10:30] >> Well, you're doing great work in North [10:31] » Well, you're doing great work in North [10:31] Montgomery. [10:33] Again, you're serving those [10:34] community over there. It's [10:36] uh uh [10:37] that [10:38] you're really making a difference, you [10:39] and your people inside the [10:41] uh [10:42] the building there are really doing a [10:43] great job. I I sent it out. I know [10:46] Commissioner Constanza uh joined me in [10:48] 4,000. So, Regina 4,000 from Doug [10:52] District 5, 4,000 from [10:55] uh designated revenue? [10:56] >> Yeah. [10:56] » Yeah. [10:56] >> Mhm. [10:58] » Mhm. [10:58] And [10:59] um give the opportunity to some others [11:01] if they want to help today. [11:03] Do that. [11:04] >> Can you give me the name that you want [11:06] » Can you give me the name that you want [11:06] the funds to go to again? [11:07] >> Sure. Flatline Community Coalition. [11:09] » Sure. Flatline Community Coalition. [11:09] >> Okay. Thank you. [11:10] » Okay. Thank you. [11:11] >> Yes. [11:11] » Yes. [11:12] >> And Tammy uh [11:14] » And Tammy uh [11:14] Tammy [11:15] Flatline Community Coalition, can you [11:17] get with Dwayne if I think he's set it [11:19] up already. I think we've given before, [11:21] Tammy. [11:21] >> Yeah, you have. [11:22] » Yeah, you have. [11:22] >> Yeah, many times in the past, so okay. I [11:24] » Yeah, many times in the past, so okay. I [11:24] should be okay set up, so [11:27] Does anybody else want to help? [11:28] >> Put me down for 4, too, uh Ms. Walker, [11:31] » Put me down for 4, too, uh Ms. Walker, [11:31] please. [11:31] >> Yes, sir. [11:31] » Yes, sir. [11:32] >> Thank you. [11:37] » All right, we'll keep digging. [11:38] >> All right, thank you. [11:39] » All right, thank you. [11:39] >> Okay, buddy. [11:40] » Okay, buddy. [11:40] >> Any other additions to designated [11:42] » Any other additions to designated [11:42] revenue? [11:44] Okay. [11:45] >> I think I think I might have two. [11:46] » I think I think I might have two. [11:47] Um [11:48] >> Wait, don't you mean three? [11:49] » Wait, don't you mean three? [11:49] >> Well, Jamice, uh I think Doug is in the [11:53] » Well, Jamice, uh I think Doug is in the [11:53] program for the $750 to [11:56] Leadership Montgomery. That's for the [11:57] program that came and presented last [11:59] week, is that right? [12:00] >> Yes, yeah, that that was his ask of each [12:02] » Yes, yeah, that that was his ask of each [12:02] commissioner. [12:03] >> So, I I'd like to add my $750 as well. [12:13] And then, I [12:17] Jamice is sharing with you right now. I [12:18] had a neighborhood association months [12:20] ago that [12:22] either [12:23] wasn't submitted [12:25] did didn't get funded, got left off, [12:27] whatever it is. [12:28] Um no no fingers pointed, unless they're [12:31] at myself, which I'll take all of it. [12:33] But, um [12:36] from designated. [12:38] One Is it 1,000? All right, perfect. [12:40] Thank you. [13:28] » So, you got I have to resend it now. [14:00] » She needs to allocate at this meeting [14:01] and or she needs to rescind. [14:08] That was designated? [14:09] Okay. [14:25] Got you. [14:27] Is that right? [14:30] Okay. [14:31] >> [clears throat] [14:31] » [clears throat] [14:31] >> Consider travel training request [14:34] » Consider travel training request [14:34] for [14:35] detention, engineering, [14:38] information systems, and the sheriff. [14:43] » Just point of clarification, most of [14:45] these training requests are showing that [14:46] there's no budget money. Is that because [14:47] they're coming out of FY 27 and that [14:49] budget hadn't been set yet? [14:52] >> That's a good question. [14:54] » That's a good question. [14:54] Okay. [14:55] >> I just I just want to make sure. [14:56] » I just I just want to make sure. [14:56] >> finance director. [14:59] Item number three, um, on our formal [15:02] agenda. [15:04] Consider donation of two decommissioned [15:06] vehicles to Trenholm State Community [15:07] College Police Department. [15:09] Sheriff? [15:14] Nope. [15:15] >> Now, that's [15:15] » Now, that's [15:15] >> I'm sorry. I'm I'm on the wrong one. I'm [15:17] » I'm sorry. I'm I'm on the wrong one. I'm [15:17] so sorry. [15:18] Consider amendment to Tyler Tech [15:19] software agreement to approve and [15:21] implement Tyler Tech Energy Gov. Terry [15:24] Henderson is here and I think Rodney is [15:25] going to join her. [15:33] He's eager. Good morning. [15:38] » Good morning. [15:39] Good morning, everyone. [15:40] >> Good morning. [15:43] » Good morning. [15:43] >> The information that's on the agenda for [15:45] » The information that's on the agenda for [15:46] today, I had requested waiver rules for [15:48] this. This is the [15:50] software to replace our current Natco [15:53] application that we have had for over 10 [15:57] years now. [15:58] And it was what we had discussed during [16:00] the budget hearing. We have since gone [16:03] back in combination with the IT [16:04] department and myself. [16:06] And worked with the vendor and they have [16:09] provided the revisions that you see [16:11] before you. There is no travel in there. [16:15] Of course, [16:17] this is uh [16:18] moving forward the way we have presented [16:20] it so that we could use the available [16:22] funds within the fiscal year 2026 [16:24] budget. [16:25] And move forward there to get started [16:28] hopefully within a 30 to 45-day time [16:30] frame once we get the signature and [16:32] approval on the contract. [16:34] >> you have this money in your budget for [16:35] » you have this money in your budget for [16:35] 2026? [16:36] >> Yes, sir. For the most part, the [16:38] » Yes, sir. For the most part, the [16:38] majority of this is in the in the [16:40] current year budget. And then it would [16:43] be a yearly maintenance and SAS fee [16:46] thereafter. That would be a reoccurring [16:49] fee [16:50] for year two and thereafter. [16:52] >> So, 380 382,133 [16:55] » So, 380 382,133 [16:55] dollars, that's that's available in your [16:57] budget for 2026. [16:58] >> Between what I have in the software and [17:00] » Between what I have in the software and [17:00] with what I have also in the [17:03] 304 account for professional services. [17:06] >> So, that's the urgency for waiving rules [17:08] » So, that's the urgency for waiving rules [17:08] so we can go to [17:08] >> Absolutely. Yes, sir. [17:10] » Absolutely. Yes, sir. [17:10] >> And chairman, we can change that over. [17:11] » And chairman, we can change that over. [17:11] Terry, we apologize. We realized this [17:13] morning that was supposed to be waiver [17:14] rules, but they can switch it over [17:16] during the break. Mhm. [17:18] >> Thank you very much. [17:19] » Thank you very much. [17:19] >> have any questions for Terry or Rodney? [17:21] » have any questions for Terry or Rodney? [17:21] >> Now just to be clear, this is something [17:22] » Now just to be clear, this is something [17:22] we talked about in the budget hearing [17:23] about how we've got the money allocated [17:25] right now. So this is doing that. That's [17:27] what we're doing. You're getting it [17:28] spent so we're doing it right now. [17:29] That's That's fantastic, Terry. That's [17:31] fantastic. [17:32] >> Right. [17:33] » Right. [17:33] >> And we'll we'll need to add the 131313 [17:36] » And we'll we'll need to add the 131313 [17:36] to the '27 budget for the annual fee. [17:38] >> Yes, sir. That would be coming out and [17:40] » Yes, sir. That would be coming out and [17:40] that would be in the transition. [17:42] >> Yeah. Can you pay the annual fee now if [17:44] » Yeah. Can you pay the annual fee now if [17:44] you have money in your 2026 budget and [17:47] pay it in advance? [17:48] >> It'll be paid up front at the start of [17:50] » It'll be paid up front at the start of [17:50] the project cuz that will allocate all [17:53] the services software and the hosting [17:55] part of it. [17:57] Um then next year this time next year [18:00] that we'll have to pay the annual fee [18:02] again. [18:02] >> Yeah. Exactly. [18:04] » Yeah. Exactly. [18:04] >> So yeah, for the '27 fiscal year that [18:07] » So yeah, for the '27 fiscal year that [18:08] 131 will need to be added to my budget [18:10] to pay for it next year. [18:12] But this year gets us started up front. [18:15] >> But that was the 131 you talked about [18:17] » But that was the 131 you talked about [18:17] before, right? Was that [18:19] on your budget hearing you'd asked for [18:21] some software? [18:23] >> That was uh yeah, we were moving from [18:26] » That was uh yeah, we were moving from [18:26] other departments to mine. [18:27] >> Okay. [18:29] » Okay. [18:29] All right. I need a motion. [18:32] >> Move to waive rules. [18:34] » Move to waive rules. [18:34] >> I second it. [18:35] » I second it. [18:35] >> All in favor say I. [18:36] » All in favor say I. [18:36] >> I. [18:37] » I. [18:37] >> Okay. Thank you. [18:38] » Okay. Thank you. [18:38] >> Thank you so very much. [18:40] » Thank you so very much. [18:40] >> Thank you. [18:42] » Thank you. [18:42] Consider an unbudgeted field position [18:44] request for part-time administrative [18:46] support associate. Uh our purchasing [18:49] manager, Sandra Cunningham, is coming [18:51] down. [18:53] » Good morning. [18:54] >> Good morning. [18:57] » Good morning. [18:57] >> Uh [18:57] » Uh [18:57] this request is for part-time [18:59] administrative support associate to [19:02] support operations for the purchasing [19:04] department. [19:05] Uh currently we have a heavy workload. [19:08] Um [19:10] and we support the entire county. It's [19:12] myself and two buyers. [19:14] So this would really help us keep [19:16] everything efficiently and flowing to [19:18] support the operations of the county. [19:21] I requested this in my part two budget. [19:25] But it's in critical that we get this [19:26] position filled as quickly as possible. [19:30] >> So that will bring your department to [19:31] » So that will bring your department to [19:31] three people. [19:33] >> Four. [19:34] » Four. [19:34] >> Four. [19:34] » Four. [19:34] >> This makes four. You got three now. [19:36] » This makes four. You got three now. [19:36] >> And myself. [19:37] » And myself. [19:37] >> So that would be three and a half. [19:38] » So that would be three and a half. [19:38] >> She makes three. She has one person [19:39] » She makes three. She has one person [19:39] that's out until the end of September. [19:42] So she's down to two people. [19:43] >> Okay. And then in September she'll have [19:45] » Okay. And then in September she'll have [19:45] three and you're asking for one more. [19:47] >> Yes, sir. [19:48] » Yes, sir. [19:48] >> Okay. And how many have we had in the [19:50] » Okay. And how many have we had in the [19:50] past always had? [19:51] >> I know they've had four. I don't know [19:55] » I know they've had four. I don't know [19:55] when they were all right. Have you all [19:56] ever had more than four employees in [19:58] purchasing? [20:05] » They've always had four then. [20:16] » Thank you, Martha. Martha's our former [20:18] purchasing manager, so that's why I [20:19] asked her. [20:25] » Any questions? [20:28] » That'll be next agenda. [20:30] >> Thank you, Sandra. [20:31] » Thank you, Sandra. [20:31] >> Thank you. [20:34] » Consider establishing county levies for [20:36] new ABC license types. [20:42] » Any questions on that? That'll be next [20:44] agenda. [20:46] >> Actually, [20:47] » Actually, [20:47] I did this. Sandra, could you come back [20:49] up real quick? I got a quick question. [20:51] Yep. [20:54] Cuz we don't get a whole lot of [20:55] opportunities to talk. Just [20:57] walk give us the 30-second overview of [21:00] what purchasing does. And then I'd love [21:02] for you to describe the physical [21:04] hang-ups right now that are requiring an [21:06] additional staff member. Does that make [21:07] sense? [21:08] >> Yes, sir, for sure. [21:09] » Yes, sir, for sure. [21:09] >> Uh currently um we handle all of the [21:12] » Uh currently um we handle all of the [21:12] purchasing for the entire county. Uh [21:14] from administrative supplies all the way [21:16] to our vehicles, [21:18] uh buildings, maintenance, MROs, which [21:21] is maintenance and repairs. [21:23] Um [21:24] the administrative support is critical [21:25] to our operations. It allows the buyers [21:27] and myself over management to focus on [21:30] the things that we need to focus on as [21:31] far as uh [21:33] compliance, making sure we're in [21:35] compliance with laws, uh the laws [21:37] changes that we've had. Um [21:40] so having this administrative support is [21:42] is very important. Um the administrative [21:46] support would handle all of our filing, [21:49] um [21:50] our postings, uh [21:53] community um I'm sorry. [21:55] The [21:56] department interactions, all of those [21:58] things as as well as our mailing and we [22:01] do a lot of um [22:03] manual processes still as well. Uh which [22:05] is one of the things that I'm trying to [22:06] focus on is bring us up to date in [22:08] operations. Uh this will will again [22:10] allow us the buyers and myself to focus [22:13] on those very critical operational [22:15] needs. Um [22:17] >> Does purchasing supervise the mail room [22:19] » Does purchasing supervise the mail room [22:19] as well? [22:20] >> We support the mail room. We don't [22:22] » We support the mail room. We don't [22:22] supervise it. It It falls under general [22:24] services support services. Uh but we do [22:26] help and support with that operation uh [22:29] because we do have the purchasing [22:31] component of that as well. [22:32] >> So like [22:33] » So like [22:33] >> all of the PO boxes as well. [22:34] » all of the PO boxes as well. [22:34] >> Okay. [22:35] » Okay. [22:35] >> Yes, sir. [22:35] » Yes, sir. [22:35] >> Paying paying to make sure we got stamps [22:37] » Paying paying to make sure we got stamps [22:37] in the hopper ready to go. [22:39] I've heard we've we've gotten close a [22:40] couple times. [22:41] >> Yes. Yes, sir. [22:41] » Yes. Yes, sir. [22:41] >> from you? [22:42] » from you? [22:42] >> As one point at one point prior to me [22:44] » As one point at one point prior to me [22:44] getting here, I just got here in April. [22:46] Um but prior to me getting here um in I [22:48] think former years purchasing at one [22:51] time was under support services and it [22:53] has since been separated. So we're uh [22:56] just redistributing our our [22:59] responsibilities as they should be. [23:01] Um [23:02] to answer that question. [23:04] >> With this new position, are they going [23:06] » With this new position, are they going [23:06] to be you mentioned talking to the [23:08] different departments. Is that going to [23:09] be the person that if [23:12] probate wants to make a purchase or [23:13] commission wants to make a purchase, [23:14] they would go through this person or [23:16] does that come through you? What does [23:17] that process look like? [23:18] >> Uh we support each buyer and as well as [23:21] » Uh we support each buyer and as well as [23:21] myself, we have [23:23] different departments that we support [23:24] directly that we're assigned to [23:27] but it's also a collective thing as well [23:30] depending on the workflow. In that peak [23:32] season like we're coming up to year end [23:33] closeout New Year preparation, those are [23:36] critical that we support [23:39] all of the departments. So there's no [23:43] there's assignments for departments but [23:45] we all do everything collectively as [23:47] well. [23:48] >> What's your current processing time from [23:50] » What's your current processing time from [23:50] time you receive a [23:52] request to the ability to purchase and [23:54] have on site? What do you think that [23:56] timeline looks like right now? [23:57] >> It's been delayed a little bit because [23:58] » It's been delayed a little bit because [23:58] of the shortage. Um right now we're [24:01] working at 7 to [24:03] 10 days where it was normally uh same [24:06] day or two to three days. So yes. Uh [24:09] contract management kind of plays a role [24:12] into that. Uh the buyers really and [24:14] myself really need to focus on contract [24:16] management. Um [24:18] because we have to do research as well [24:21] as [24:22] build relationships with those suppliers [24:24] that we work with. So it takes a lot. We [24:26] work a lot with legal as well as risk [24:29] management to make sure that we're in [24:30] compliance with the [24:32] insurance requirements and that that [24:34] we're abiding to all of the law [24:36] requirements. [24:39] Thank you. [24:40] >> Thank you. [24:48] » Thank you, Sandra. [24:49] Um item number three, consider [24:50] establishing county levies for new ABC [24:53] license types. [24:56] » I I we already got that one. We got [24:57] that. [24:58] >> you You didn't ask You asked what are [24:59] » you You didn't ask You asked what are [24:59] the questions, so I didn't know. And we [25:00] kind of got I want to make sure. I'm [25:02] sorry. [25:03] Um consider contract with the Jones [25:05] Group LLC for governmental relations. [25:08] This is a renewal of his contract from [25:10] um this current year's contract. [25:12] >> No increase? [25:13] » No increase? [25:13] >> No, sir. There wasn't an increase in the [25:15] » No, sir. There wasn't an increase in the [25:15] contract amount. [25:16] >> I know that contract was [25:18] » I know that contract was [25:18] provided for additional expenses for [25:20] travel, etc., etc. Did we encounter any [25:23] of those additional incur any additional [25:24] expenses [25:25] during the current contract? [25:27] >> None that I'm aware of. None I haven't [25:29] » None that I'm aware of. None I haven't [25:29] been informed of any um [25:32] I don't know of any. I do see that in [25:34] the contract. [25:35] >> Yeah, I don't think I don't recall them [25:37] » Yeah, I don't think I don't recall them [25:37] ever coming to us. So far, I think it's [25:40] been in every contract we've had [25:43] lobbying groups, but I don't remember [25:46] them ever coming to us with any special [25:48] travel requests. [25:51] Or the group before them, I don't [25:52] remember them ever doing it either, so. [25:54] >> Okay. [25:55] » Okay. [25:55] >> So So the answer is at this time there [25:57] » So So the answer is at this time there [25:57] >> As of today, the answer is no. [25:58] » As of today, the answer is no. [25:58] >> Okay. [25:59] » Okay. [25:59] >> Yes, sir. [25:59] » Yes, sir. [25:59] >> And that would have to be approved [26:01] » And that would have to be approved [26:01] before [26:03] they did it, I'm sure. [26:05] >> I would like to think so, but I would [26:06] » I would like to think so, but I would [26:06] ask Connie for an interpretation and see [26:09] if we need to put something in there [26:10] like maybe a specific amount needs to [26:12] come before the commission or however [26:13] y'all want to do that, but I would like [26:15] to think that would have to be approved. [26:16] >> Yeah. Well, I just I'll have a [26:18] » Yeah. Well, I just I'll have a [26:18] conversation with them just make sure [26:20] before they [26:21] do anything to let us know what they [26:23] want to do. [26:25] >> That sounds nice, but [26:26] » That sounds nice, but [26:26] >> I've been been up and [26:28] » I've been been up and [26:28] long as I've been here on the [26:28] commission, so. [26:30] >> Yes, sir. [26:32] » Yes, sir. [26:32] >> That'll be next agenda. [26:34] » That'll be next agenda. [26:34] >> Item number five, consider amending the [26:37] » Item number five, consider amending the [26:37] contract with Booth Management [26:38] Consulting for the remainder of 2026 [26:41] and to close out 2027. [26:44] Ms. Robin Booth is on the phone. Robin, [26:46] are you on? [26:51] » Good morning. Yes, I am. [26:53] >> Good morning. As you know, commission, [26:55] » Good morning. As you know, commission, [26:55] we um funds were allocated to over 65 [26:58] programs for 45 recipients. [27:01] Each of those recipients had various [27:03] experience with managing federal money. [27:05] So, it has been [27:07] um [27:09] a journey to kind of get them to spend [27:12] the money in compliance with the rules [27:14] set out by Treasury, and Robin and her [27:16] team have done a great job, but now it's [27:18] time for us to get those projects closed [27:21] out and to get our final reports to [27:24] Treasury, and that's going to require a [27:27] little bit more guidance um for those [27:30] that either [27:33] received incorrect information in the [27:35] beginning or need help getting across [27:37] the line. So, this is what we're trying [27:39] to do, and Robin has put together a [27:41] brief presentation that will probably [27:43] give you a little bit more information [27:45] as to where we are right now. So, I'll [27:46] turn it over to Robin. [27:49] >> Good morning. Good morning. I'm not um [27:51] » Good morning. Good morning. I'm not um [27:51] I don't have the ability to share my [27:52] screen. I don't know if I can get that [27:54] ability real quickly in Teams. I was [27:56] waiting [27:57] for the share. [27:58] >> I think um [28:00] » I think um [28:00] they are going to We have your [28:01] presentation, so I think they're going [28:02] to share. [28:04] >> Oh, I I I'll just walk through it then. [28:06] » Oh, I I I'll just walk through it then. [28:06] I can't see it. [28:07] >> Okay. [28:07] » Okay. [28:07] >> Okay. So, um as Regina alluded to, and I [28:11] » Okay. So, um as Regina alluded to, and I [28:11] think we made this clear when we [28:13] initially earlier on in our contract, we [28:15] had brought some things to the [28:16] commission [28:17] as we started to experience some [28:19] some some issues that concerned us. So, [28:22] our original scope when we started, you [28:24] know, we we believed that let's just say [28:27] because you had prior consultants and [28:29] you had prior work done that your files, [28:31] your documentation were at a certain [28:33] level as far as compliance with this [28:35] one-time generational funding through [28:38] the ARPA program. Um we brought to your [28:41] attention early on that we had serious [28:43] concerns about some initial [28:44] determinations made relative to whether [28:46] the agreements with your partners, [28:48] because that's what we call them, your [28:49] partners and your grantees, uh [28:52] were [28:53] I will just say with the designation of [28:55] the agreement type, subrecipient versus [28:57] beneficiary, were consistent and [29:00] compliant with both the Treasury [29:02] guidance as well as the uniform [29:03] guidance. And we raised those issues. Uh [29:06] what we what we recommended and and [29:15] » We lost you. [29:19] Robin, we lost you. [29:30] » No. [29:31] >> Regina [29:32] » Regina [29:32] >> I'm going to put you on speaker. [29:34] » I'm going to put you on speaker. [29:34] >> Okay. [29:34] » Okay. [29:34] >> All right. [29:36] Go ahead, Robin. [29:37] >> Go ahead. [29:38] » Go ahead. [29:38] Okay, can you all hear me now? [29:43] Unmute me. Can you all hear me now? [29:44] >> Yes. [29:45] » Yes. [29:45] >> Okay. So, as I was saying, you can go to [29:48] » Okay. So, as I was saying, you can go to [29:48] the next slide. [29:50] Here, too. [29:52] Um [29:54] And you can go to the next slide as [29:56] well. [29:57] So, what we [30:01] what we identified early on was that [30:04] those issues could potentially put this [30:06] really the county in a precarious [30:08] situation under audit. And one of the [30:10] big things we are audit defensible and [30:13] and we brought that to the table as far [30:14] as our approach. You can go to the next [30:16] slide. So, when we looked at the [30:17] projects and made that it down There we [30:19] go. So, what we identified was that for [30:22] those projects, that determination of [30:25] subrecipients versus beneficiary had [30:27] tremendous impact on how you had to [30:29] monitor projects. We elected and [30:32] discussed with going with the [30:33] conservative approach, so that even if [30:35] the initial determination is questioned [30:37] under audit, [30:40] The approach for the county is that [30:42] we're going to be the most conservative [30:43] and we're going to treat them all at the [30:45] highest standard, which would have been [30:46] as a subrecipient. So, we did not go [30:49] back and try to argue the point about [30:50] the initial determination. What we [30:52] proposed and the county understood and [30:54] accepted was that we're going to go with [30:56] the most conservative and the most [30:58] protected um protective and audit [30:59] defensible for the county and to treat [31:02] these projects as subrecipients and make [31:04] sure we're validating 100% [31:07] of the dollars that were used for ARPA [31:09] programs. So, there's 65 projects. The [31:11] good thing is you all have obligated all [31:13] of the money's obligated. This meant [31:15] that as of December 31st, 2024, all your [31:17] pro all your money's were in a pro a [31:19] project. To date, total we've totally [31:22] validated When I say validated, that [31:24] mean my teams have gone through the [31:25] actual expenditure exports supporting [31:27] documentation, um the project scope, [31:30] every dollar and we verified that these [31:32] dollars were spent [31:34] based on eligible um costs, allowable, [31:37] reasonable, and necessary costs [31:38] consistent with the uniform guidance. [31:40] However, we have about 11,800 [31:43] 11,800 [31:45] that we have to validate and get spent [31:48] by December 31st, 2026. And that's the [31:51] population we're focused in on because [31:53] as you all know, failure to for those [31:55] funds to be expended by December 31st [31:57] will result in me and the county having [31:59] to recapture and return those funds to [32:02] um the county and that's what Regina was [32:04] alluding to. Of that 72 of that 11,800, [32:08] a lot of those are your uh grantees who [32:12] do not neces did not necessarily have a [32:15] full understanding standing of federal [32:17] grants. And we've had to work very [32:19] closely with them and and getting them [32:21] to, you know, have it, you know, [32:23] identify expenditures, maybe modify the [32:25] expenditures to make sure they're [32:26] eligible. Their budgets are off. Um lack [32:29] of documentation. They simply didn't [32:31] realize the level of documentation, even [32:33] though it is in their agreement. I do [32:35] want to note that your agreements made [32:36] it clear that all of that they had to [32:38] provide audit supporting documentation [32:42] as requested for any expenditure. So [32:44] whether they were a subrecipient or [32:45] beneficiary, your agreements made that [32:47] clear. So at this point, we have about [32:50] 32 projects that pretty much were ready [32:52] that they complete documentation. We're [32:55] ready to close out. 33 we have where [32:57] we're in this [32:59] period of of attempting to work with [33:01] them to make sure these funds are spent [33:02] and spent allowable. [33:05] We have about 39 where we had a [33:07] discrepancy with the classification. And [33:09] so as I said, we've dealt with them. We [33:11] feel like the county is in the best [33:13] protected position based on our approach [33:15] to treat them [33:16] hold them to the higher standards. So we [33:19] have 35 projects that are in process. We [33:21] have about [33:22] um [33:23] 28 that are ready for closeout, which is [33:25] going to we're closing starting to close [33:26] them out and then two that we're trying [33:28] to kind of determine where they are. We [33:31] have One of the issues too is we started [33:33] to have some poorly reporting that [33:35] wasn't being done. So we've been working [33:37] with them as well. You can go to the [33:38] next slide. So where we are [33:43] You can go to Yeah, thank you. So this [33:46] then this deals with with advances, [33:48] spend rate, and deobligation. So one [33:51] other thing to keep in mind is that some [33:52] people got money up front. So we have to [33:54] validate their expenses. And of that [33:57] 419,000, [33:58] basically we have validated. We have 600 [34:01] Remember now, this money is already [34:03] gone. We're we're trying to get their [34:05] their actual expenditures to validate [34:07] that they used those funds for the [34:08] intended purposes. So potentially, those [34:11] are the ones too and that's within that [34:13] whole 11 million that we're attempting [34:15] to validate. We see a potential [34:17] obligation of 500,000 just because some [34:20] under and over budgets, but that number [34:22] is not firm at this point. And at this [34:24] point, we have about 60.2% of the funds [34:27] advanced funds that are [34:29] validated. So we have about 38% roughly [34:32] that are not validated. We can go to the [34:34] next slide. [34:39] Yeah. Yeah, thank you. So, what we've [34:41] taken what we've done, a lot of direct [34:43] communication, Regina, our team, [34:46] calling, emails, not [34:49] follow-up, conference calls. We've [34:51] looked we've reviewed their quarterly [34:53] reports, their financial reports, their [34:54] project reports, their request for [34:56] reimbursement money reports, um weekly [34:58] conference calls on spending [35:00] projections. We still meet weekly with [35:02] um the county to go over these spending [35:04] projections and even more so as we're [35:05] getting closer and closer to that [35:07] deadline. We have um discussed a more [35:10] aggressive approach for these [35:11] non-responsive. Like I said, the last [35:13] quarter we noticed we didn't get 46 46 [35:15] reports and we're at um that quarter was [35:18] June 30th and we're August 11th. So, we [35:21] just talked about the fact of making it [35:22] clear to failure to validate or provide [35:25] us with the documentation to validate [35:26] may result in the recapture of um of [35:30] those funds or the re-obligation or [35:31] re-allocation of those funds. So, that's [35:34] the more aggressive approach we're going [35:36] to have to that we're taking now to get [35:38] us across the finish line. And so, of [35:40] course, the conflict consequences of [35:42] non-responsive, of them not responding, [35:44] this $11 million of those in that pool [35:46] are not is potential de-obligation and [35:49] the county does still have some [35:50] re-allocation they can do um within now [35:53] and December 31st, 2026. The issue is [35:56] understanding what needs to be [35:58] de-obligated and rather re-allocated, [36:00] which is what we're trying to get our [36:01] pulse more around. Next slide. [36:06] So, what that looks like that yeah. What [36:09] that looks like when you see that number [36:11] 350 increase, I just want to say our [36:13] original contract only went through [36:15] January 1st, 2027. [36:18] Um Treasury has put out guidance and [36:20] indicated that close out those to April [36:22] 30th, 2027. So, what does that mean? [36:25] Even if funds are expended by December [36:27] 31st, every grant, every project has to [36:29] be closed out. And even And Treasury [36:31] recognized that that will not will not [36:33] happen by December 31st, even if all the [36:35] money's are. So, Treasury has extended [36:38] through April 30th, 2027 for the [36:40] closeout of the project. And we're [36:42] recommending um our contract be extended [36:45] to cover that period as well. So, in [36:47] that period, um [36:50] and you can go to the next slide. [36:52] Oh, you can stay here. You can stay [36:53] here. Um what this budget supports, we [36:56] got to complete all of the ARPA [36:57] reconciliation and closeout. One of the [36:59] big reconciliations is to what you've [37:02] been reporting in Treasury. Treasury [37:04] just issued an alert about 6 weeks ago [37:07] about the aggressive actions that how [37:08] they're going to determine who's being [37:10] monitored. And they're going to really [37:12] look at those Treasury reports and the [37:13] categories and the expense categories, [37:16] um how you've been reporting. So, we [37:18] need to make sure that all of the [37:20] changes that have impacted are being [37:22] reported in those reports. We're going [37:24] to finalize, continue monitoring, and [37:26] technical assistance, processing [37:27] reimbursements, getting these files as [37:30] complete as possible. We've done so many [37:31] amendments and we'll continue to do so [37:33] to get the documentation right. And as [37:35] you know, we're working on three audits, [37:37] which were 40% complete. And we hope to [37:40] have the audit results on the conflict [37:42] of interest within the next 30 days, [37:45] putting it mildly. Within the next 30 [37:46] days, we should have [37:48] um some [37:49] some reporting to you at least on the [37:51] conflict of interest audit. And we're [37:53] very close to finishing that. All the [37:55] other audits we're doing field work, and [37:57] we expect to be finished by September [37:58] 30th, 2026. You can go to the next [38:01] slide. [38:04] So, as I said, when we got involved and [38:06] we made you aware that the compliance [38:08] were issues, financial was issue. I will [38:10] say some of your um beneficiary your [38:13] your grantees didn't understand they had [38:15] to keep any documentation for whatever [38:17] reason. So, it's it's been a hill to [38:19] climb for some. And some were just [38:20] getting advances up front and with no [38:23] actual expenditure testing or no actual [38:25] documentation being having to be [38:27] submitted. So, if I can go to the next [38:29] slide. [38:31] And I'll try to try to wrap up. Um as I [38:33] said, these are all the things we've [38:35] done to address those issues. You can go [38:37] to the next slide. [38:41] Um I talked about the risk to you, what [38:43] could happen to the county. We're always [38:44] on a audit defensible mode and how our [38:46] act our approaches protected you, giving [38:49] you the best position in training of [38:50] those to mitigate those risks. You can [38:52] go to the next slide. [38:56] I'm going to talk to you about the [38:57] remaining work to be done so you have a [38:59] complete understanding of what has to be [39:01] done between now or really 7/1 and [39:03] 4/30/27. [39:05] Keep the next slide and I'll wrap it up. [39:07] We're trying to get to the wrap up. This [39:09] is our work plan so you'll know what we [39:10] plan to work on from now until the um [39:13] April 30th date. We expect to be [39:15] finished March 31st. Next slide. Cuz [39:18] this is an important one. [39:20] Um [39:21] This is our the the um our [39:23] recommendation is to complete these [39:25] projects um and why we're recommending [39:27] approval of this budget. So, that pretty [39:29] much um in the final slide, that pretty [39:32] much um wraps up the request. As you can [39:35] see, there's a lot more detailed [39:36] information in the presentation, but um [39:40] thank you so much for allowing me these [39:41] few minutes to make this presentation. [39:43] >> Robin, this is Doug. Uh [39:45] » Robin, this is Doug. Uh [39:45] I've been very impressed with the work [39:47] you have done. I would ask you um [39:50] if you can tomorrow, I've got some time [39:52] after about uh [39:55] 10:30 tomorrow morning, would you call [39:57] my cell number tomorrow? I want to ask [39:59] you I've got a bunch of questions I want [40:00] to ask. Um it would take at least 30 or [40:04] 40 minutes. Uh do you mind if I just [40:06] >> not a problem. Only thing is I got to I [40:08] » not a problem. Only thing is I got to I [40:08] am flying I'm I'm on travel. I'm [40:10] actually [40:11] >> Call me Well, call me [40:12] » Call me Well, call me [40:12] >> there. [40:13] » there. [40:13] >> Yeah, well, call me Yeah, call me [40:14] » Yeah, well, call me Yeah, call me [40:14] anytime Thursday uh Wednesday or [40:16] Thursday. [40:17] >> Okay. would be good. [40:17] » Okay. would be good. [40:17] >> Thursday is great. Thursday I'm back [40:19] » Thursday is great. Thursday I'm back [40:19] online. Thursday anytime. [40:21] >> Yeah. [40:22] » Yeah. [40:22] >> Okay. [40:22] » Okay. [40:22] >> Okay, perfect. [40:23] » Okay, perfect. [40:23] >> sorry, what commissioner was this? I [40:24] » sorry, what commissioner was this? I [40:24] can't see you anymore. [40:26] >> Doug Singleton. [40:28] » Doug Singleton. [40:28] >> Okay, Commissioner. Thank you. [40:29] » Okay, Commissioner. Thank you. [40:29] >> Yeah, thank you, Robin. [40:30] » Yeah, thank you, Robin. [40:30] >> Doug, can I ask you [40:31] » Doug, can I ask you [40:31] >> Please, yeah. [40:32] » Please, yeah. [40:32] >> of questions. It won't take 40 minutes, [40:34] » of questions. It won't take 40 minutes, [40:34] but [40:35] Robin, this is Commissioner Justin [40:36] Canstanzo. Tell me um [40:38] give me the idea of why this addition is [40:41] necessary [40:42] after we made the the original contract [40:45] and the original procurement of funds. [40:48] Are we seeing an increase? Are we Did we [40:50] not budget enough time? I know that [40:52] we've we've mapped this out to end on [40:54] March 31st, but that would have been a [40:55] known time frame. What are What are your [40:57] thoughts about the increase? [41:00] >> The inc- And as I said in the slide [41:01] » The inc- And as I said in the slide [41:01] earlier on, it was because of the [41:02] quality of your [41:04] the initial determinations and your file [41:06] compliance and what we thought what was [41:08] thought to be in your files. We thought [41:11] even from internally, you all's [41:13] perspective, the determinations were [41:15] questionable. [41:16] Um [41:18] the files were so incomplete. There [41:19] There was no documentation [41:22] as far as just expenditures. [41:24] A lot of your unfortunately, a lot of [41:26] your grantees weren't familiar with [41:28] federal requirements. So, they did the [41:29] best that they could. So, we're doing a [41:31] lot of I I want to say maybe we're [41:32] building some sustainability, too, [41:34] because we're building a capacity, [41:37] because we're building we're [41:39] taking them through the process of [41:40] understanding federal grant requirements [41:42] so they so they can [41:44] you know, comply with this grant. That [41:45] hopefully builds capacity. [41:47] Um [41:48] the level of um reporting that's been [41:50] required as far as just from them and [41:52] understanding and making sure that [41:54] they're in compliance, we could not have [41:56] anticipated that um initially. I will [41:59] say the audits, which are included in I [42:01] am saying is included in that. 350 was [42:03] another unanticipated. We could not have [42:06] have anticipated that those particular [42:09] situations and that level of monitoring. [42:11] Um and so those are the I guess the [42:14] largest contributing factors. [42:17] >> How How much has the county already paid [42:20] » How How much has the county already paid [42:20] towards this contract? What was the [42:21] original sum? [42:23] >> It was I believe it was 450,000. The [42:26] » It was I believe it was 450,000. The [42:26] contract started April 1st of 2025 [42:29] and um, they had paid through 6/30 of [42:32] 2026. [42:33] >> Yeah. [42:34] » Yeah. [42:34] That's correct. [42:35] How many [42:35] >> A little bit more than a year. [42:37] » A little bit more than a year. [42:37] >> How many um, Booth Consulting employees [42:39] » How many um, Booth Consulting employees [42:39] are working this process? [42:42] >> Um, five. [42:45] » Um, five. [42:46] Six. Five. Five and a half. [42:53] » Any other questions? [42:54] >> Yeah, Miss Jim. [42:55] » Yeah, Miss Jim. [42:55] >> Uh, Miss Booth, uh, Commissioner Isaiah [42:57] » Uh, Miss Booth, uh, Commissioner Isaiah [42:57] Sankey. Um, thank you for your time. [43:00] Good morning to you. Your slides are [43:02] always kind of busy even though they're [43:03] very, very detailed. They're kind of [43:05] busy. I would like a copy of them so [43:07] that I could really try to understand a [43:09] little bit more detail and more thorough [43:11] fashion what uh, you're presenting. I'm [43:14] I'm also concerned [43:17] uh, you mentioned understanding the [43:19] federal grant requirement. I don't think [43:20] we have that luxury built into the [43:21] contract uh, where the recipients or the [43:23] subrecipients uh, [43:25] can take time to understand federal [43:27] grant requirements. That was a part of [43:29] the criteria when they signed uh, the [43:32] contract uh, early on uh, and the level [43:35] of monitoring required. I think we [43:36] should [43:37] we should have already been aware of the [43:39] level of monitoring required uh, [43:41] to make sure that these uh, recipients, [43:44] subrecipients or beneficiary uh, you [43:46] know, were [43:48] they understood what was at stake, uh, [43:50] what their responsibilities uh, were and [43:53] they they should have been been aware of [43:55] that. So, and I I want to know, I'd like [43:58] to have a list of the ones that you've [43:59] currently closed out [44:01] uh, and the ones that [44:03] >> ready to close out. [44:05] » ready to close out. [44:05] >> Okay. [44:05] » Okay. [44:05] >> They're closing. We're We're starting [44:06] » They're closing. We're We're starting [44:06] the close out process now. [44:08] >> I need that list, please, uh and and the [44:10] » I need that list, please, uh and and the [44:10] list of those that are pending. [44:12] >> That goes for about all of us with that. [44:14] » That goes for about all of us with that. [44:14] >> Yeah, cuz we I mean, this this concerns [44:15] » Yeah, cuz we I mean, this this concerns [44:15] me. I mean, you know, we the the [44:17] individuals or the entities [44:19] uh that sought uh these these monies, [44:22] uh and I know they were classified some [44:24] as subrecipients, some as beneficiaries, [44:26] and I know I had a lot to say about that [44:28] early on. And so, I am concerned that [44:31] even when we reclassify them, are we [44:34] really sure that we're meeting the [44:37] requirements and that Treasury [44:39] guidelines are being adhered to as we [44:41] attempt to reclassify subrecipients to [44:44] beneficiaries or vice versa. [44:46] So, that really concerns me. And if [44:49] there's additional monies that are [44:52] necessary to be expended to extend the [44:54] time required to monitor these uh [44:57] these recipients, it ought to come out [44:59] of their funding. Uh I'm I'm wondering [45:02] is the $350,000, Miss Walker, [45:04] uh [45:06] part of ARPA monies that we've somehow [45:08] set aside, or would this come out the [45:10] general fund budget? [45:12] >> I am not aware of any additional ARPA [45:14] » I am not aware of any additional ARPA [45:14] funds set aside for monitoring. We spent [45:16] $795,000 [45:18] to get the funds allocated. [45:19] >> Yes. [45:20] » Yes. [45:20] >> Um what we're looking at is for those [45:22] » Um what we're looking at is for those [45:22] that are just not responsive. [45:25] With in the reclassification, we would [45:27] then use some of those funds for [45:28] monitoring. [45:29] >> But the $350,000 at this point, where [45:31] » But the $350,000 at this point, where [45:31] would it be coming from? [45:33] >> If approved, it would be coming from [45:34] » If approved, it would be coming from [45:34] general fund. [45:35] >> Is it eligible? I agree with what you're [45:37] » Is it eligible? I agree with what you're [45:37] saying, is it eligible? Cuz basically, [45:39] we're being fined for the inability of [45:42] grant recipients to do their job. [45:44] >> Right. [45:45] » Right. [45:45] >> I I mean, is there a way to use ARPA [45:48] » I I mean, is there a way to use ARPA [45:48] funds [45:49] >> For the money that we can recapture, [45:51] » For the money that we can recapture, [45:51] yes. Um I'll share with you guys the [45:53] last spreadsheet. Keep in mind, a lot of [45:56] these recipients got their money up [45:57] front. So, because we gave them money up [46:00] front, we no longer have the money. [46:01] We're trying to get them to comply on [46:03] the back end with funds that they've [46:05] already expended and whether they were [46:07] eligible or applicable to Treasury [46:10] guidelines. For the ones that have not [46:12] received their money, we certainly will [46:13] use that towards if we had to do a [46:15] reclassification towards monitoring. [46:18] >> Booth would be motivated to help with [46:20] » Booth would be motivated to help with [46:20] that project. [46:20] >> They are. So, over the next 3 weeks, [46:22] » They are. So, over the next 3 weeks, [46:22] what we're planning to do before we meet [46:24] again is we have our spreadsheet here of [46:26] everybody that received their advance [46:27] payment and then our spend rate table of [46:29] where they are. [46:31] You will be amazed at the number of them [46:32] that have spent their money [46:34] >> but haven't reported it. [46:35] » but haven't reported it. [46:35] >> They just won't report it. I talked to a [46:36] » They just won't report it. I talked to a [46:36] couple of them and said they were told [46:37] that they didn't have to. So, it's a lot [46:39] of misinformation because this has this [46:42] has gone through a lot of hands since [46:43] these funds were given out. So, um I [46:46] confirmed, are you receiving the emails? [46:48] Yes. Do you understand it applies to [46:50] you? Yes. Why haven't you responded? I [46:53] didn't know I had to. [46:54] Um so, we [46:57] >> Maybe there's a way for us before the [46:58] » Maybe there's a way for us before the [46:58] next meeting. I I don't feel confident [47:00] voting on this yet until we answer all [47:02] of those questions. [47:03] >> I understand. [47:03] » I understand. [47:03] >> Um and and I let me be very clear. I I [47:05] » Um and and I let me be very clear. I I [47:05] want to make sure that all of our ARPA [47:07] funds are used. I've been very impressed [47:09] with the way Booth has monitored this so [47:10] far. Their support has been incredible. [47:12] It has made it audit defensible. I love [47:15] that word. Um but uh there's just a lot [47:19] of money. $11 million in play and then [47:21] another $350,000 payment out of our [47:23] general general fund. Um Doug's got a [47:26] lot of questions. I know he's going to [47:27] ask her as well. So, after that [47:28] conversation, maybe you guys talk and if [47:30] there's a way before our next meeting to [47:33] get the [47:34] commission together to discuss or or [47:36] whatever we need to do. I know that can [47:37] be a public meeting or we can [47:39] whatever we got to do. We got to do it. [47:41] >> mind one of them is [47:42] » mind one of them is [47:42] the $2 million that's for the community [47:44] center. So, we're pre-ordering, you [47:45] know, that some of those things to spend [47:47] that. So, our larger ticket items, a lot [47:50] of those are [47:51] in progress. [47:53] Um [47:54] some have ordered equipment that's [47:56] supposed to be coming in soon. That's a [47:58] large ticket item, a little bit over [47:59] half million. So, our larger ticket [48:01] items are in progress. We're just trying [48:03] to get all of the documentation to see [48:05] where we are. So, you can't recend those [48:07] funds. But, for the funds that we can, [48:09] certainly we will sit down and comb [48:11] through the spreadsheet. [48:12] >> Not trying to recend funds. I'm [48:13] » Not trying to recend funds. I'm [48:13] interested in who [48:16] is doing what they're supposed to be [48:18] doing, and if they're not, then they're [48:19] not eligible to receive the funding, [48:20] even if they've already gotten it, would [48:21] be my thing. And I think that number of [48:22] people is very, very small. [48:24] >> It is. [48:24] » It is. [48:24] >> Um but, you know, now's time. Clock is [48:27] » Um but, you know, now's time. Clock is [48:27] ticking. [48:27] >> Right. [48:28] » Right. [48:28] >> We've talked a lot about using the what [48:30] » We've talked a lot about using the what [48:30] might be left over well. We don't want [48:32] to give any back. [48:34] >> So. [48:34] » So. [48:34] >> There there was some criteria that had [48:36] » There there was some criteria that had [48:36] to be satisfied up front in order to be [48:38] a beneficiary as opposed to a [48:41] subrecipient. And if we allowed them to [48:44] enter the contract as subrecipients as [48:46] opposed to being a beneficiary, [48:49] that would've been more additional [48:50] burden on this the county for [48:52] beneficiaries. And there was some [48:53] criteria that had to be satisfied. So, I [48:56] don't see how you can go back and [48:57] reclassify those who were listed as [49:00] subrecipients, now they're beneficiary, [49:02] cuz it called for a whole different set [49:03] of criteria. And and I'm concerned about [49:06] that. [49:06] >> Okay. We can include Hold on. [49:09] » Okay. We can include Hold on. [49:09] >> Robin, [49:10] » Robin, [49:10] maybe we can set up [49:12] a conference call that everybody could [49:14] be on because we're not going to [49:15] deliberate. We're just going to ask [49:17] questions [49:17] >> Yes, sir. [49:18] » Yes, sir. [49:18] >> for general information purposes. So, [49:20] » for general information purposes. So, [49:20] >> We can do that. [49:20] » We can do that. [49:20] >> set that call up for sometime Thursday, [49:23] » set that call up for sometime Thursday, [49:23] and and people want to join, they'll [49:25] have the opportunity to join and ask [49:26] questions. [49:29] » Okay. Thank you, Robin. [49:31] >> Thank you. [49:37] » Okay. [49:37] >> Uh [49:38] » Uh [49:38] Gina, on number [49:40] six, uh [49:43] I got a [49:45] email [49:46] um [49:48] last night. [49:49] >> Yes, sir. [49:50] » Yes, sir. [49:50] >> Um [49:51] » Um [49:51] says we're going to withdraw the [49:53] proposed amendment this time. We'll [49:54] address it later. [49:56] Uh, that came from uh Mike Jackson. [49:59] >> Okay. [50:00] » Okay. [50:00] >> Webb to him. I think he represents the [50:01] » Webb to him. I think he represents the [50:01] volunteer Hackle Volunteer Fire [50:03] Department, I believe. I I think that's [50:05] who that is. So, [50:07] number six we'll just uh [50:10] >> Request removed from Yes, sir. [50:12] » Request removed from Yes, sir. [50:12] >> We'll do it down the road later. [50:14] » We'll do it down the road later. [50:14] We'll see if it comes back. [50:15] >> Yes, sir. [50:15] » Yes, sir. [50:15] >> Regarding that particular uh item, there [50:18] » Regarding that particular uh item, there [50:18] are a number of people here who [50:20] represent volunteer fire departments [50:22] throughout the county. And so, even [50:24] though we are taking it off the agenda, [50:26] uh I think it might be uh [50:29] important that we at least hear from [50:32] them at some point based upon your [50:33] discretion, you know, what uh concerns [50:36] they have about the resolution and how [50:39] the monies are being allocated. I [50:41] understand that there's some concern [50:43] about equity in the allocation. So, if [50:46] you would allow at some point before we [50:48] leave or [50:49] before we adjourn, if they could at [50:50] least have [50:52] an opportunity to express their concern. [50:54] >> Yeah, they [50:55] » Yeah, they [50:55] They can We got a few minutes uh now. [50:57] They can do it now if they would like. [50:59] Again, it's I don't know if it'll come [51:00] back to us or not, but [51:03] I don't know if it'll ever come back to [51:04] us. So, [51:05] >> Well, just for information and purposes, [51:07] » Well, just for information and purposes, [51:07] uh I think it would be important. [51:08] >> If If anybody's here on that [51:11] » If If anybody's here on that [51:12] Uh at 10:00. Okay, we'll do it at 10:00. [51:14] That'll be good. [51:14] >> That'll be perfect. [51:15] » That'll be perfect. [51:15] >> Thank you. Can we Can we go back to um [51:18] » Thank you. Can we Can we go back to um [51:18] to the Jones contract? [51:20] >> Yes, sir. [51:20] » Yes, sir. [51:20] >> Um [51:22] » Um [51:22] Also, [51:24] it says consider amending contract with [51:25] Booth Management under item five, but [51:27] the the memo was attached, but not the [51:29] contract. [51:31] >> Correct. Um I can send you a copy of the [51:33] » Correct. Um I can send you a copy of the [51:33] original contract. I apologize for not [51:34] attaching it. [51:35] >> curious what we're actually amending. Is [51:36] » curious what we're actually amending. Is [51:36] it just to pay them more money? [51:37] >> Just add add an additional 350. No [51:39] » Just add add an additional 350. No [51:39] language changing, just that part. [51:41] >> Okay. [51:42] » Okay. [51:43] 78% increase from the original cost. [51:46] Just saying. [51:47] Five. Uh so, the contract with with [51:50] Jones my only question is there's a [51:53] there's a statement on one of these [51:55] pages that says [51:58] that if more money is needed that the [52:01] county would be responsible for for [52:03] paying those costs. Um [52:05] >> Where are you on the contract? [52:06] » Where are you on the contract? [52:07] >> I'm looking. I've read it and I've made [52:08] » I'm looking. I've read it and I've made [52:08] a note of that. [52:09] >> the one for additional travel where if [52:10] » the one for additional travel where if [52:10] additional travel is needed? [52:12] >> [sighs] [52:14] » [sighs] [52:14] >> Right here on the payment. [52:15] » Right here on the payment. [52:15] >> number five, yeah, payment. [52:17] » number five, yeah, payment. [52:17] >> Okay. [52:17] » Okay. [52:17] >> Jones Group may seek reimbursement for [52:19] » Jones Group may seek reimbursement for [52:19] certain expenses associated with the [52:21] agreement including but not limited to [52:22] travel, lodging, meals provided that [52:24] reimbursement of such expenses must be [52:26] pre-approved by the undersigned. I I [52:28] guess that is my question. I don't know [52:29] if anybody from Jones is here. Um [52:32] for the amount of money we're paying [52:35] uh paying more for travel and those [52:38] types of things would be I'm just [52:40] curious [52:41] is that something that has happened in [52:42] the past? Have we had to add additional [52:45] >> It will be in there. [52:45] » It will be in there. [52:45] >> You know, if they go to [52:47] » You know, if they go to [52:47] >> Any lobbyist firm you look at will put [52:49] » Any lobbyist firm you look at will put [52:49] that in there. They're going to ask you [52:50] for additional um [52:52] additional for if they travel and they [52:55] set up meetings when they travel. For [52:57] instance, if they go we go to like we [52:59] went to the air show. [53:00] >> Air show, yeah. [53:01] » Air show, yeah. [53:01] >> And they were responsible when we were [53:02] » And they were responsible when we were [53:02] in the air show. So, they set up the [53:04] meet for meetings that we had in order [53:06] to bring other um [53:08] interest other airlines, interest other [53:11] companies with for us. So, that will [53:13] always any lobbyist you get they're [53:15] going to if they don't put it that in [53:17] there then instead of being 144 they'll [53:19] probably ask you for 240 and then say [53:22] okay, you don't have to reimburse us [53:24] because they're already getting 240. [53:27] >> I just felt like 144 already included [53:29] » I just felt like 144 already included [53:29] that, too. [53:31] >> [laughter] [53:33] » [laughter] [53:33] >> We're in the wrong business. [53:34] » We're in the wrong business. [53:34] >> But it does have to be pre-approved. [53:37] » But it does have to be pre-approved. [53:37] >> Yeah, it does have to be pre-approved. I [53:38] » Yeah, it does have to be pre-approved. I [53:38] got you. [53:38] >> you know, but we're not going to not [53:40] » you know, but we're not going to not [53:40] approve going to London for air show. [53:42] We're not going to not approve. I mean [53:44] >> I'm setting up meetings in DC for us. I [53:45] » I'm setting up meetings in DC for us. I [53:45] mean [53:46] >> See there's some predictable stuff that [53:48] » See there's some predictable stuff that [53:48] I wish that we could include in this [53:50] 144. [53:51] >> some of those are some of the people [53:52] » some of those are some of the people [53:52] that we need to [53:54] and that's what their job is for but [53:56] but they still have to get there [53:58] themselves. So it's going to be always [54:01] any most 90% of your lobbyists firms are [54:04] going to have that in there. [54:05] >> Yeah and [54:07] » Yeah and [54:07] Jones Group like all other lobbying [54:09] groups that that say actually went to [54:11] like the air show in London they [54:12] represent [54:14] numerous companies over there and so [54:16] it's just not one company. [54:17] >> are all the companies splitting their [54:19] » are all the companies splitting their [54:19] travel costs? [54:20] >> But they've not they're not billing us [54:23] » But they've not they're not billing us [54:23] for the travel for the lunch air they [54:25] they not have they have never billed us [54:26] for something above and beyond what [54:28] their contract [54:29] >> Oh that's what I was asking. I thought [54:30] » Oh that's what I was asking. I thought [54:30] you were saying that we have been billed [54:32] like that before. [54:32] >> no no no no they have [54:33] » no no no no they have [54:33] >> So Jones traditionally has not billed us [54:35] » So Jones traditionally has not billed us [54:36] >> No cuz they that's part of their job to [54:38] » No cuz they that's part of their job to [54:38] go over there. [54:38] >> Well I agree. I just was curious. I mean [54:40] » Well I agree. I just was curious. I mean [54:40] cuz it says here [54:41] >> No Doug if they I know that's part of [54:42] » No Doug if they I know that's part of [54:43] their job but now if it comes and they [54:45] we say hey we're going to Timbuktu [54:49] and we need you set up meetings for [54:50] Timbuktu. That's what I thought you [54:51] said. [54:51] >> That's a separate contract. [54:53] » That's a separate contract. [54:53] >> Yeah he's he's yeah we'll have to pay [54:55] » Yeah he's he's yeah we'll have to pay [54:55] them for it. [54:55] >> separate air show and DC [54:58] » separate air show and DC [54:58] that kind of stuff. [55:00] >> If they ever do anything like that extra [55:02] » If they ever do anything like that extra [55:02] above and beyond [55:04] >> above and beyond yeah that's in their [55:05] » above and beyond yeah that's in their [55:05] scope they're going to ask for us to be [55:06] paid. [55:09] You want I mean [55:10] >> I'm only worried. [55:10] » I'm only worried. [55:10] >> I got you. We and we can get in touch [55:12] » I got you. We and we can get in touch [55:12] with Greg and let him call us before we [55:14] pass this and explain everything to us. [55:15] Other than that we we're saying it but [55:18] yeah. [55:19] >> That's all I have. [55:21] » That's all I have. [55:21] >> Okay. [55:23] » Okay. [55:23] >> So Genie got number seven I guess. [55:26] » So Genie got number seven I guess. [55:26] >> Uh-oh hold on. [55:28] » Uh-oh hold on. [55:28] >> General information? [55:29] » General information? [55:29] >> Yes sir. [55:31] » Yes sir. [55:31] There is an update um [55:34] for Montgomery Thrive small business. [55:37] Um Frank Robinson and Jennifer Anderson [55:39] are here to give a brief update on where [55:41] we are, how they're rocking and rolling [55:43] with that program. [56:23] Frank, you want to go ahead and start [56:24] talking? I'm going [56:25] >> Yeah, Miss trying to do that. We're [56:26] » Yeah, Miss trying to do that. We're [56:26] running short on time. [56:27] >> Yeah, no problem. And I'll be quick with [56:29] » Yeah, no problem. And I'll be quick with [56:29] the presentation. And I want to say [56:31] thank you [56:33] to you commissioners, and thank you to [56:35] um, [56:37] thank you to our [56:38] acting administrator Regina for her work [56:41] and as well as [56:43] Robin and Jennifer as well. We wanted to [56:46] just spend just a short moment to [56:49] give you an update on on the Montgomery [56:52] Thriving [56:53] as it exists today. We are thankful for [56:56] your trust [56:58] in, you know, everybody to get this [57:00] redone. And we were happy with the [57:04] fidelity as which has been done that. [57:06] Next slide, please. I'll go through [57:08] these slides pretty quickly. And as [57:10] always, [57:12] I'm a phone call or a meeting away if we [57:14] need to dig into some of the details [57:17] as you review this presentation. Um, [57:22] One of the things I wanted to mention is [57:23] that the summary of the funding, the [57:26] program was originally at 2.5 million, [57:28] but we were able to out reallocate money [57:31] from other pots. And we actually wind up [57:34] having a baseline of 2.8 million to [57:37] distribute to businesses. Every dollar [57:40] counts and this allowed us to do [57:41] additional 6 to 10 [57:43] businesses here. We remain [57:47] We want to continue to remain [57:48] transparent on that but we're thankful [57:49] [clears throat] [57:50] that we were able to serve more [57:51] businesses. Next slide, please. [57:55] To date we have awarded 2.5 We had a [57:59] remaining 279. This was as actually as [58:03] of the 31st. We're pretty much [58:06] at the end [58:09] We're pretty much at the end of the No [58:11] problem. [58:12] At the cycle end we will expend or [58:15] commit all the dollars by the end of [58:17] this week. [58:19] Next slide, please. [58:21] Just to give you an overview, we had 391 [58:24] applications received. We processed 279. [58:28] We gave technical assistance 227. [58:31] We had a lot of messages, information. [58:34] We were really [58:35] through all the different kind of [58:37] vehicles in touch with people but really [58:41] got that message through and we were [58:42] thankful for county commission as well [58:44] as city council members who helped us to [58:47] spread the news, get messages, [58:50] send information but were able to give [58:52] those updates as well. Next slide, [58:54] please. [58:57] You notice here that we had 15 million [59:00] dollars in requests for for those [59:03] dollars. [59:04] We were able to process percentage of [59:07] that. 112 [59:10] applicants were not processed but you [59:13] can see the awards. [59:14] Uh [59:16] some of the final determinations here [59:18] and I'll get into some of these by [59:20] district and council in the next slide. [59:23] Next slides. [59:34] » Just make sure. Oh, here we have 116 [59:37] awarded grants, average of $21,000 here. [59:41] And we're we're 90% probably 95 right [59:44] now percent of the way projected. We are [59:47] the end of this week the funds will [59:49] totally exhaust. We won't get to [59:51] everyone on the list, but it was a first [59:54] come first sort of basis. We did that [59:56] and I'll talk a little bit about the [59:57] process in the next next next slide, [1:00:00] please. [1:00:04] So, here you see the award by types. [1:00:06] Most of the as you see the most of the [1:00:09] award programs were the capital [1:00:11] improvements. So, business small [1:00:12] businesses that were looking to [1:00:15] improve their [1:00:18] their business somehow, but we had [1:00:20] others and other allocations as well [1:00:22] that took advantage of that. But, really [1:00:25] happy about how that went and how how it [1:00:27] helped small businesses. Next slide, [1:00:28] please. [1:00:32] Here you look at the the county [1:00:33] districts. This is a breakdown of where [1:00:36] things went. Uh [1:00:39] District 4 having the most, but [1:00:44] kind of everybody got touched across the [1:00:46] board here in in in in the different [1:00:49] categories that we that you see for [1:00:52] those areas. [1:00:53] Next slide, please. [1:00:56] So, wanted to talk this a little bit [1:00:59] briefly about the [1:01:00] grant execution agreement. This was [1:01:02] definitely a [1:01:06] Go back to the other slide. There, thank [1:01:08] you. [1:01:09] This is definitely a kind of partnership [1:01:11] between the county city [1:01:14] as well as what being the management of [1:01:16] Booth Management. [1:01:18] This process kind of was fully there. [1:01:21] We participated in weekly sessions uh [1:01:23] with the county and the city and Booth [1:01:26] Management. We met every week. We [1:01:27] discussed uh kind of the grant uh [1:01:30] execution. Uh they were they were [1:01:32] electronic signatures. Uh fully executed [1:01:36] uh copies were returned. Um and then [1:01:38] we're transitioning to the reimbursement [1:01:39] phase now. And so, really uh [1:01:42] collaborative um [1:01:44] uh [1:01:45] way that we we approached this. [1:01:49] As you see uh here on this slide, I [1:01:52] wanted us to mention that we are we have [1:01:54] the disbursements. We're starting to [1:01:56] that 312,000 [1:01:58] uh is actually higher now, but that's [1:02:00] the total amount uh finally approved. [1:02:03] So, once they get a uh conditionally [1:02:05] approved, uh we they go through the our [1:02:09] businesses have to return their process. [1:02:11] They have a process that they have to [1:02:12] do, watch videos, and other things. And [1:02:16] so, that that amount that's been [1:02:17] released because they've finished those [1:02:19] things. Those This uh we expect this one [1:02:22] to go up because we're at now at this [1:02:25] portion of the phase. So, we expect by [1:02:27] the end of the month that this would be [1:02:29] 80 80%. [1:02:33] Uh this this request was funding type. [1:02:36] Uh this what you want to know is that we [1:02:38] had a assessment that uh Booth [1:02:40] Management has set up for us. Uh and [1:02:43] there were two things. There was [1:02:45] advanced uh if there was a low risk, [1:02:46] there was a risk uh profile that [1:02:49] everyone got. And if there was depending [1:02:51] on what type you were in, uh there was a [1:02:54] advanced uh that's given um at a [1:02:56] percentage. But also, uh there were [1:02:59] retroactive uh [1:03:00] grants as well. So, if they were higher [1:03:02] risk, uh they were included in the [1:03:04] budget. They had to show certain things. [1:03:06] Um and then the those payments were done [1:03:07] on a reimbursement basis based upon risk [1:03:10] and other factors. Next slide. [1:03:13] Uh just want to just these are some I [1:03:15] won't go into this. Uh these are some of [1:03:17] the requirements uh that went into the [1:03:20] risk factors here. [1:03:22] The award amount, the years of business, [1:03:24] and other criterias that I can [1:03:27] get into at a later time. [1:03:30] >> Yeah, Frank, we running a little bit [1:03:31] » Yeah, Frank, we running a little bit [1:03:31] short on time. So [1:03:33] >> We're we're good. I won't Thank you [1:03:35] » We're we're good. I won't Thank you [1:03:35] Well, we we I'll let you read the [1:03:37] slides. I just want You got the the main [1:03:39] gist of what what we [1:03:41] >> to share Regina Regina actually just [1:03:42] » to share Regina Regina actually just [1:03:42] mailed them to us. [1:03:43] >> Okay, perfect. [1:03:44] » Okay, perfect. [1:03:44] >> Both of you have them. [1:03:45] » Both of you have them. [1:03:45] >> the emails and again, this was just to [1:03:47] » the emails and again, this was just to [1:03:48] give you [1:03:49] an update, but we were able to do more. [1:03:53] I know that was a something that [1:03:55] some of the commissions asked for. [1:03:57] We were able to go above the 2.5. We're [1:04:00] able to do this with Fidelity. We're [1:04:02] thankful for both management because [1:04:03] they had a system that allowed it to be [1:04:06] fair, accurate, audit defensible, [1:04:09] as as it was said, but this was a really [1:04:11] good partnership and a turnaround [1:04:14] kind of where we were a couple of months [1:04:16] ago, [1:04:17] and I just want to thank you for for the [1:04:18] partnership. [1:04:19] >> Yeah, thank you. [1:04:20] » Yeah, thank you. [1:04:20] Jennifer, you got anything you have to [1:04:22] We got You good? [1:04:23] >> I'm good. [1:04:24] » I'm good. [1:04:24] >> I know I know we caught a lot of flak [1:04:26] » I know I know we caught a lot of flak [1:04:26] about this as it was launching, [1:04:28] but the numbers today means incredible [1:04:31] work has been done, and I know that [1:04:32] wasn't easy. So thank you very much. [1:04:34] >> Thank you. I appreciate it. Thank you so [1:04:35] » Thank you. I appreciate it. Thank you so [1:04:35] much, Commissioner. [1:04:37] >> Thank you, Frank. Thank you, Jennifer. [1:04:39] » Thank you, Frank. Thank you, Jennifer. [1:04:39] Um Chairman, those are all of our items. [1:04:41] >> That's it. Yeah. [1:04:42] » That's it. Yeah. [1:04:42] >> Yes, sir. [1:04:43] » Yes, sir. [1:04:43] >> Okay. [1:04:43] » Okay. [1:04:43] >> Sam, you going to do a magic switcheroo [1:04:44] » Sam, you going to do a magic switcheroo [1:04:44] and put Terry's item on wave rules and