[2:37] to the flag of the United States of
America and to the republic for which it
[2:42] stands. One nation under God,
indivisible, with liberty and justice
[2:47] for all.
>> Please remain standing for a moment of
[2:50] silence for Bessie Kisio
McGomery free library for many years. a
[2:56] lovely lady who's lived in the town off
road. She'll be sorely missed.
[3:07] » Please be seated.
[3:14] Councilwoman,
Council Michael
[3:18] » here. Good evening Miller. Supervisor
Steve Russia.
[3:22] » Councilwoman Cheryl Melik
>> here. Good evening. Councilman Mark Hoy
[3:26] » here,
>> attorney for the town, William Frank,
[3:31] » confidential clerk to the supervisor,
Lauren Rally,
[3:37] recreation director.
[3:42] [clears throat]
[3:45] » Okay, we had [laughter] a couple
birthdays in August. Cindy Boss and Sher
[3:51] both got birthdays. Happy birthday.
>> Thank you. Somebody had a big class of
[3:55] uni that I saw on Facebook. Um I don't I
won't say how many years because it'll
[4:00] show too many until you're your age. So
>> I surprised myself.
[4:07] » Baron Atkins is having his anniversary
today. Is he still here?
[4:12] » I hope you're going out to a nice dinner
after this.
[4:15] » We may.
And Katie's at home. Uh it's her
[4:20] birthday today.
her favorite dish. Chicken pomodoro.
[4:26] I won't say her either.
She's
[4:32] » okay. Is there any public comment on
agenda items first?
[4:38] Said you're non agenda, right?
>> You going to say something?
[4:41] » Me?
>> Yeah.
[4:42] » Well, actually this uh this L to
agurism,
[4:47] » does that have to do with agriculture?
Um, where is up with letter?
[4:53] » Number five all the way at the bottom by
um
[4:56] » Yeah, it does. It's I mean that
>> you basically know what I was going to
[5:00] talk about. So, you want me to wait till
the end?
[5:03] » Yeah, cuz it's cuz your thing isn't on
the agenda.
[5:05] » All right.
>> Okay.
[5:06] » No. Correct. Yes. But just so you know,
it is date night tonight for my bride
[5:11] night. [laughter]
>> We can move it along a little bit.
[5:15] » Happy hour and rosemary. [laughter]
[5:20] and Markes. Nobody's signed up for
agenda items. We'll try to brush it
[5:25] along soon.
>> Anything under old business?
[5:30] » Okay. If nothing under old business,
I'll entertain a motion to accept the
[5:34] August 5th, 2026 board meeting.
>> I'll make that motion.
[5:40] » Second.
All
[5:42] » in favor? I
>> oppos
[6:04] a resolution authorizing the supervisor
to sign transportation agreement with
[6:08] the county of Orange.
I'll make that motion.
[6:20] » To update the resolution that was
passed,
[6:23] » I was going to say it seems like we just
did it. Yeah, it came a year already.
[6:28] » It needed to be up.
>> Yes.
[6:33] » Do we need to cancel the last one?
>> Somehow.
[6:38] » This supersedes the last one. Okay.
>> Okay. All in favor?
[6:50] » All right. See a resolution authorizing
release of the perform performance pond
[6:54] i logistics based on recommendation.
[7:11] I'll make that motion
second.
[7:16] » Anybody
[7:21] discussion? All in favor?
>> I
[7:26] Okay. D resolution to approve the grant
management stipen. Everybody has the
[7:30] resolution. I'll entertain first
motion. I'll make it.
[7:36] » Second.
>> I'll second it.
[7:38] » Okay. I just wanted to say a few things
about this before we discuss further.
[7:42] Um, we've discussed this in executive a
couple times. It was revised and I think
[7:47] we should move forward with it. I think
it's a very fair offering than what was
[7:51] originally submitted. Just a couple
statistics. The town of Montgomery
[7:55] currently has eight funded grants
totaling 3.7 million and 16 submitted
[8:00] grants totaling 17.8 million. And that's
probably a record for the town in fan
[8:06] applications and funded grants.
With the volume and dollar amount of
[8:12] grants the town has been awarded
slashsubmitted through our grant writer,
[8:15] we are now in need of grant management.
Grant management is necessary to ensure
[8:20] budget management, financial compliance,
management of deadlines, and submission
[8:26] of reports. awarded grants that are not
managed correctly to put the town at
[8:31] risk for losing the grant andor not
being awarded future grants. There's a
[8:36] lot of reporting that goes and
administration goes along with MWBE and
[8:40] all the other strict requirements of you
know required for federal and state
[8:45] grants. A proposal has been made for the
grant administration study. Two town
[8:50] employees currently Anna Fis and Katie
Mcnite would handle the grant management
[8:56] and be paid the stipen for this
additional work if three hours a week
[8:59] for Katie and 10 hours a week for Anna.
Because Anna is writing these grants,
[9:05] she knows the ins and outs of them can
seamlessly apply the knowledge and
[9:08] information into managing the grants
once they are awarded. This is more
[9:12] efficient than her having to convey this
information to a third party and it's
[9:16] all happening right here in house. Katie
already handles all aspects of the
[9:21] town's finances, so her pay and cash
flow awarded grants and the additional
[9:25] financial reporting required is more
efficient than giving a third party
[9:29] financial access. The town already pays
statements to various employees for
[9:34] additional work above and beyond their
job descriptions.
[9:39] Yeah, we we have at least 11 town
employees that get statements. I don't
[9:44] know if you knew that or not, but the
only thing is this these grants would be
[9:48] fully reimbursed by the state. This new
stipen is similar to the existing
[9:53] stipens, but okay, this is what it says
right here, but different and that it
[9:56] will cost the town nothing. All the
money comes from the grants themselves.
[10:00] And I think that was it. And I will say
that um I don't know if it says it in
[10:05] the resolution or not, but these would
be paid quarterly
[10:09] um to each employee based on us getting
our money from the state first. We get
[10:14] paid then then the stipens get paid and
we review the stipens with our vouchers
[10:19] or our requirement bills. Um
the you didn't have anything to add?
[10:27] » Yes, sir.
>> Okay. Do you have anything to say? I
[10:29] know they do it in Kingston and big
budgets big budget
[10:33] » where they where they're getting this
many grants they have staff on they they
[10:39] hire staff internally to do it
>> so it really is unique to uh
[10:46] municipalities that are awarded large
grants
[10:51] » I know does a fantastic job
[10:57] » Kingston Newberg
These are all areas where they have a
[11:01] whole they have a full grant staff
department.
[11:05] » Well, now that Ann is doing our grants,
we're doing fantastic.
[11:10] » Absolutely.
>> Okay. Any further discussion?
[11:15] » Yes. I mean, that's been no secret that
my big problem with this is I don't
[11:19] understand the multiplier effect. Um I'm
just not in favor of that. I haven't
[11:24] been in favor of that. And also since a
lot of this will be from my
[11:29] understanding being done on the time
that the people are here,
[11:34] I just [clears throat] don't agree with
the one and a half times the hourly rate
[11:39] of what they're getting while they're in
doing it during their workday that
[11:46] they've already getting [clears throat]
paid for. So I'm not going to be able to
[11:49] support it.
I I also want to say something want to
[11:54] have a a question first. Is the other
statements are an annual amount that
[11:59] gets approved every year when they do
the budget. This is an hourly one. Is
[12:03] this going to get approved every year?
>> Well, I mean if if they if they exceed
[12:09] 10 grants that they're administering
be negotiated, it's going to be paid
[12:14] quarterly. That's the plan.
So, but it also says in there that the
[12:19] hours 10 grants, but there's no specific
hours.
[12:24] » I mean, it says to be to be determined
by the workload.
[12:28] » No, it's right now this proposal, this
resolution,
[12:31] » is that okay, right?
>> Yeah. Go ahead.
[12:33] » Is for 10 hours a week for me and three
for Katie and it's flat. It's not a
[12:38] multiplier.
>> What the the rate?
[12:42] » Yeah.
Well, that's not what the add agendum
[12:45] says.
>> Well, it's it's set now for unless we
[12:50] get a workload that suddenly requires
more people.
[12:53] » Well, it says right revisions made
needed based on workload and number of
[12:57] grants awarded this proposal based on
six to 10 10 grants and workload unknown
[13:03] estimated.
>> Yeah, that's if there's more. So, we
[13:07] don't know what might be coming and if
there are more grants, there will be
[13:12] more more. there will be a bigger need.
>> But the multiplier effect is in there.
[13:16] You're getting one and a half times your
salary.
[13:18] » Well, that's it's a different rate for a
different job.
[13:23] » That's what it is. [clears throat] It
doesn't
[13:25] » I don't think they're going to you're
going to be administering more than 10
[13:27] rates,
>> but I mean, sometimes you're going to be
[13:30] administering two, sometimes you're
going to be administering seven or
[13:32] eight. That's why I like to keep it the
same amount each quarter,
[13:36] » you know, based on and we will get the
reimision. [clears throat]
[13:39] And we're also trying to work out a deal
with the village of Montgomery that Anna
[13:43] does administers their grant from New
York forward but does it on their own
[13:48] time.
>> I I do have one more thing I want to
[13:52] add. So not that I don't agree with
grant management. I do. my problem where
[13:57] I can't vote with this either. This is
based on money, but there's no
[14:01] procedures written on how you're going
to oversight this, who's going to
[14:06] approve it, how it's going to be
tracked. There's just there's just
[14:10] nothing but a dollar amount here. So, I
I can't approve this.
[14:14] » There will be reporting just like there
is the grant writing.
[14:18] » If you want a quarterly report or or
monthly report, we can do that and
[14:21] update each one. Certainly certainly ask
Katie and do that. It's not going to be
[14:27] difficult to do it to us.
>> Okay. If there's no further discussion,
[14:32] I'll call the question. All in favor?
>> Okay.
[14:40] No. Deputy Supervisor Boss.
>> No.
[14:44] » Councilman Mike.
>> Yes.
[14:47] » Councilwoman Sherik.
>> Yes. Councilman Michael.
[14:53] » No. And I'm Yes.
[14:59] » Thank you.
[15:06] » All right. Resolution accepting the ADA
board donation by Benedict Park.
[15:12] Stephanie Harrian is here coming to the
meeting. Is that you?
[15:15] » That's me.
>> Are you going to tell us what that is or
[15:17] not?
>> Sure. Absolutely.
[15:18] » Come on up. All right.
>> Thank you,
[15:22] » Stephanie.
[15:25] Thank you for having me.
>> Pass that down.
[15:33] » Uh, first of all, thank you so much for
having me. Thank you, Karen. Thank you,
[15:36] Anna. Um, my name is Stephanie Harrian.
I'm a local speech language pathologist.
[15:41] I'm a prior uh employee of Valley
Central School District. I specialize in
[15:46] working with children with autism or
other developmental disabilities,
[15:49] specifically those who are limited or
non-speaking. In front of you, you'll
[15:53] see a proposal to install what's called
a core communication board. If you flip
[15:58] through, there's like a very colorful
picture at the end. That is called a
[16:02] core board. It is for kids that cannot
speak. So, what they do is point to the
[16:07] pictures to communicate their wants and
their needs. myself and another special
[16:11] education teacher who's a current um
employee of value central um have
[16:15] started an LLC to increase inclusion and
accessibility in the region and we have
[16:21] been installing this core board in
different parks locally. So there's one
[16:25] in um Hasbro Park in News, one is being
installed in Majestic Park in Gardener
[16:31] and we have another one going into Walk
Hill. So this proposal we are able to
[16:35] get a um donation from Depws in Newberg.
The sign is about5 $5 to $600
[16:42] um worth. So, it's really fancy, really
beautiful, UV protected, meant to last 5
[16:47] to 10 years. And what we are proposing
is that the town of Montgomery take over
[16:51] the installation and like the lumber and
all of those little like nitty-gritty
[16:55] details. Um the really the purpose of it
is for more families to feel seen, more
[17:01] kids to be able to readily communicate
and engage with their community.
[17:06] » Thank you very much.
>> Thank you. related to the herrogens from
[17:09] the village of McGomery or no?
>> No, I'm from Long Island. [laughter]
[17:12] » You don't have a Long Island accent.
>> I tried really hard not to
[17:18] » worked extremely difficult. Um,
Manorbell.
[17:21] » Yeah. All the way far out east.
>> Uh, if I may, Mr. supervisor. I do
[17:26] represent the village of Newalt and I
was involved in the paperwork and so on
[17:31] for the Hazbrook Park installation and
it's been just greatly received and they
[17:38] love it over there and it's really u
it's a tremendous thing.
[17:42] » Thank you very much. I didn't know that.
Thank you.
[17:44] » When [laughter] I saw this on the
agenda, this was this was the resolution
[17:48] that I enjoyed writing the most.
>> Oh, thank you. Oh, that really means a
[17:51] lot to me [laughter]
>> for the children and everything and the
[17:54] parents.
>> Yes.
[17:55] » It's it's just you can't even imagine
how great it is, but how it makes the
[17:59] parents feel like the kids. So, I would
strongly re recommend that.
[18:05] » Yeah, we've been really lucky. Um Brian
uh my business partner Brian Majestic
[18:08] and I have gotten a lot of u media
attention for it. So, features on
[18:12] Spectrum News and other local u media
outlets. So, it's been really
[18:16] wellreceived um by the public, but also
um the media outlets um and so many
[18:21] parents have come up to us and tell us
how wonderful and beautiful it is to be
[18:25] seen um and for their families to be
reflected. Um unfortunately, autism and
[18:31] this population specifically are often
overlooked, especially in public um
[18:36] arenas. So that's Brian and I's mission
is to really try to improve
[18:41] accessibility and inclusion in the
greater um Hudson Valley region. So
[18:45] we're starting here.
>> Is that the Majestic from Gardner?
[18:49] » Yes.
>> All the all the Majestics Lane there.
[18:54] » Yeah. Um he lives on Forest Glenn. Um
but he's like a fourth generation
[18:58] Majestic. So his family has been um
there for quite some time.
[19:03] » Yeah. I delivered a lot of lumber up
there.
[19:05] » Yeah. [laughter]
the rules from Long Island, too, but he
[19:08] doesn't have the accent on.
>> So, you say that you want us to like dig
[19:14] the holes
>> essentially. Yeah. So, um
[19:16] » are you going to supply us with the
frame?
[19:19] » Uh no. So, what we've done um in other
um uh business other localities is that
[19:26] we supply the actual board and then the
local DPW takes over the actual framing
[19:31] and the installation of that all. Um, so
that is what we've done previously, but
[19:36] we're open.
>> You have like a
[19:38] » a guy [laughter]
>> a list of what you need for the framing
[19:42] or whatever.
>> Uh, not on me, but that is something
[19:44] that I can definitely supply for you
all.
[19:46] » Okay.
>> Yeah.
[19:47] » Our guys are doing amazing jobs in the
park. So,
[19:51] » piece of cake for them.
>> We're going to put this up at the
[19:54] Benedict playground.
>> So, right at the playground.
[19:57] » Yeah. I think we're going to, you know,
get together and find a, you know, a
[20:01] logical, you know, the right place to to
install it. Okay. And by we, I mean Sean
[20:05] and his guys. So [laughter] you can say
that.
[20:09] » Yeah. I was able to go visit Benedict
Park. I had never been there before.
[20:12] It's really lovely. Um, so all of the
words on the core board are like
[20:16] specific to the park um and will be
reflective. And I know there's obviously
[20:20] a large grant that's um happening or
hopefully happening um to um overview
[20:25] the park and change it. So I really
tried to focus on words that would stay
[20:28] static um that would be so reflective 5
10 years from now.
[20:32] » Well, so if you put another field in or
another
[20:35] » Exactly. you can move it. Um it's uh
very sturdy, really high quality and
[20:39] Depw signs in Newberg were so um
generous and said that they would be
[20:43] able to donate um the sign and that's
worth again $5 to $600. So it's not a
[20:47] not a cheap item. So they're really
lovely. Okay.
[20:50] » Well, thank you very much. Deb is
extremely benevolent.
[20:54] » Thank you. It's our absolute pleasure.
Yeah. Are there any other questions?
[20:58] » No.
>> Thank you.
[21:00] » I'll entertain a motion to accept the
ADA core board donation.
[21:03] » I'll make that motion.
>> Is there a second?
[21:06] » Mark is a second. All in favor?
>> I
[21:09] » opposed. Thank you again.
>> Thank you very much.
[21:12] » Would be a wonderful addition.
>> Thank you.
[21:14] » Okay. A resolution approving the impact
endowment fund. Um you all have the um
[21:20] description and everything rationale in
the packet. We need um I'll entertain a
[21:26] motion to approve this first.
>> I'll make that motion.
[21:30] » I'll second.
>> Make second, Mark.
[21:33] » Sorry.
>> And I think this is wonderful. I read it
[21:35] over just a little while ago and this is
what they do in Central Park and New
[21:40] York City in a big way. And I talked to
Jim Brooks, former commissioner of the
[21:44] county of Orange Park system, and he
talked about doing it there. We never
[21:49] really took off. But, uh, this is, you
know, it's going to save the town
[21:53] taxpayers money and do a lot of
wonderful things. And whatever we you
[21:57] raise, you come back to us for approval
to do in the park based on what you're
[22:01] going to suggest, of course. But that's
the way it works, right? You don't just
[22:05] collect.
>> Yeah. Adam, can you just give like a
[22:07] little overview of exactly what it is so
people understand what
[22:10] » Yeah, please. Just so people understand
what it is.
[22:14] So,
this is a very specific situation where
[22:19] we can um we're creating a fund that is
like an endowment in part, but what it
[22:25] does is it allows um the community
foundation to house and raise money
[22:31] specifically for parks, youth, um arts,
and um historical preservation within
[22:39] the Montgomery community. Uh it then
allows for us to have this money um
[22:48] essentially create an interest fund uh
that will go towards the upkeep of any
[22:54] new projects, specifically anything
that's coming through grants. Um and so
[22:59] we can grow and we can create new um
opportunities for the community and we
[23:06] can maintain them without increasing any
kind of requirement from the taxpayers.
[23:12] So that's what this is doing and it is
uh a way to allow kind of for
[23:18] fundraising uh do as
>> we are not allowed to do as a
[23:22] municipality. Um so the
>> the lawyer
[23:27] » the lawyer can answer that. Um so the
community foundation essentially takes
[23:32] that over for us and they they direct it
and um yes anything
[23:37] » and as the money sits it will build
interest and and grow.
[23:40] » Exactly.
>> Yep.
[23:42] » Has to get to 25 grand first.
>> Correct. Yeah. So it gives us I I want
[23:48] to say 5 years to get to the 25 g base
for it to start acrewing interest. Um I
[23:56] have some ideas on how to get there
pretty quickly. So um but
[24:01] » once it does you start acrewing interest
you don't have to wait the five years.
[24:07] » No. Exactly. So the minute it hits the
$25,000 mark it instantly turns into an
[24:13] interest uh evolving account. Um and
yeah, all of that goes towards
[24:21] specifically will be directed towards
these kind of underfunded uh harder to
[24:27] find areas for funding within the
community.
[24:32] » Any other questions?
>> Yep.
[24:35] » Yeah, we have the first and the second
>> further discussion.
[24:40] » Okay. All in favor?
>> I
[24:42] » opposed. Car.
Okay. Okay, next up we have an
[24:47] resolution awarding the wastewater RFQ
contract to Lamont Engineering, the same
[24:52] outfit, engineering outfit that's doing
Lake View Park, the Lake View Park
[24:55] improvements. So, I'll entertain a
motion. Mark and I were part of the
[24:59] interviews on the on the short list and
I think we made the right choice. I I'll
[25:04] note for the record just so the public
knows there were four submissions
[25:10] proposals and they were vetted through
supervisor Councilman Ho and a couple of
[25:15] others. there was a scoring system
utilized and the highest amount of
[25:20] points went to the uh to the line uh in
a uh in this scoring system. So it was
[25:26] done quite properly and Jim Carr was
there and that's that's his forte and as
[25:32] well as Bill Dunn
and was Shan Sean was there as well too
[25:39] » and Lamont actually weren't they
involved with the highway garage?
[25:42] » They built Yeah. So they
>> they didn't build it. the answer here
[25:49] » which is the same function
motion.
[25:53] » We didn't get one.
>> We didn't get a motion yet. Okay. Who
[25:56] wants to make the motion?
>> I'll make
[25:58] » Go ahead.
>> I'll second it.
[26:00] » Sherry second discussion.
>> All in favor? We're moving right along.
[26:04] I wish we didn't have to waste a year,
you know. No comment.
[26:09] » Okay.
>> Better left alone.
[26:12] » Yeah.
ancient history, right? Okay.
[26:17] Resolution. I don't want to be nasty.
>> Water over the dam.
[26:22] » Waste water.
>> Waste water over the dam.
[26:24] » No, I was called nasty.
>> Some people
[26:30] could have a sewer joke in
>> there.
[26:34] A resolution to approve additional
architectural programming services for
[26:37] 110 Bracken Road
30 Scots Corners not to exceed 30
[26:43] $15,000
with 15,300.
[26:48] » Yes, we'll
make that motion.
[26:51] » Can we get a second?
>> I'll second it.
[26:54] » Discussion.
All in favor?
[26:58] » Opposed? Carried.
>> Okay. Resolution.
[27:01] » Are we getting close to Blueprint time.
>> Yeah.
[27:04] » Yeah, we're getting close.
>> We're close.
[27:07] » Okay. Resolution to approve the MEP
design proposal for the HVAC
[27:11] improvements at 110 Road. Motion.
>> Sure.
[27:16] » I'll make that motion.
>> And the amount is where is it? 15.
[27:21] » It was 14,800.
>> 14,800.
[27:24] » So, what what let's get the second
first.
[27:27] » I'll second it. This is this is our
system here in this building is pretty
[27:31] much shot, right? Both compressors are
gone. What do you call it? The
[27:36] motherboard.
>> That's what I've been calling.
[27:39] » Yeah, you've been calling the
motherboard. We're limping along. And
[27:42] Matt Blake is very good at this. And
it's kind of an emergency situation. You
[27:46] know, we can't afford to be out of heat
in two months.
[27:49] » We've been limping along with the air
conditioner. It hasn't been really hot,
[27:53] but it's been a problem, but it's it's
pretty bad. So, and then we're going to
[27:56] have to go to bid right away and it
could cost us75 to $100,000.
[28:03] But it's it's serious. I talked to Matt
and he in the right outside that door
[28:07] last week and he he and his man were
started got a jump on it and looking
[28:11] through the system and he said the
mitsubishi system like we have here has
[28:16] improved quite a bit over the last few
years and it's a two-pipe system rather
[28:21] than three pipe. So he said you may as
well stay with a two pipe system
[28:24] otherwise it could be a lot more
expensive. So I mean he's the expert on
[28:29] this.
>> I think that's the way to go. But
[28:32] » and then he'll help you write the RFP or
>> Well, we're going to we'll go to bid and
[28:38] he'll I'm sure he'll help us with that.
Hopefully it won't be much more of a
[28:42] cost, but I would think so
transfers. So but we have to do it and
[28:48] our hands are tied.
[28:56] U discussion and further
>> the only as I noted in an email
[29:01] yesterday to the board and interest of
full disclosure I have done previously
[29:06] done work for Mr. Blake and Blake
Engineering but I informed him that
[29:11] someone would be representing the town.
I reviewed his contract and we made
[29:15] changes to the contract. Yeah, he came
highly recommended and we might be able
[29:19] to we might have to take out a BAN on
this a ban or we can maybe roll it into
[29:24] the bond if we get the bond done in time
for this building and in Scottsboro. So,
[29:28] we'll have to see how that goes. But,
okay. All in favor?
[29:33] » I opposed. Carried. Okay. Um resolution
to approve the quarter 2 budget
[29:39] transfers.
[29:43] » I'll make that motion. a second
>> discussion.
[29:47] » I guess my I guess you call 80 tomorrow
or something. I guess concerned that
[29:51] we're taking some money out of the
cemetery, so hopefully we got enough in
[29:54] there.
>> Yeah, we had a goodiz bill for Walkill
[29:57] in there, too. We're still under the
budget like we did for them last year,
[30:01] but it's just it's getting closer.
>> Okay. Um Sydney.
[30:08] » Okay. All in favor?
>> I opposed. Carry. Motion to approve fee
[30:13] and alcohol waiver for Coldham Fire
Department picnic.
[30:16] » I'll make that motion with
>> pleasure. All in favor?
[30:20] » I opposed. Carried. Okay. Discussion of
Agra tourism chapel project. Um,
[30:27] » so the the fees were in that motion.
Correct.
[30:33] » Not going to charge them.
>> Correct.
[30:37] » For good reason.
>> Yes.
[30:39] » Yeah.
>> Okay. Ross Lingovitz to discuss the
[30:42] chapter.
[30:50] » Uh good evening. For the record, Ross
Wendy Litz with Engineering and
[30:53] Surveying Properties. Um here on behalf
of John John and Marlene Wood. Uh John
[30:59] and Marlene brought the Carson farm um
down on Kaiser Town Road um right before
[31:06] uh
just right before the town line. And uh
[31:11] this is the Karsten house um that they
still live in. And then John and Marlene
[31:17] bought that house and have renovated
that and have um cleaned up the farm
[31:22] significantly over the last 5 years. Um
what they are looking to accomplish is
[31:29] to build a small building about 1500
square ft under your right to farm law
[31:34] that was passed a few years ago. This uh
building is is falls under your
[31:39] guidelines as a farm assembly building
and it falls under the town board
[31:43] approval because of the very limited use
that is being proposed
[31:49] um for this building. John and Marlene
have had this vision of a an area where
[31:55] they can have ceremonies. They call it a
chapel. Um they've had um christenings
[32:01] on their property for their family. And
they found it uh extremely difficult um
[32:06] to find a venue when you're not
specifically involved with any one
[32:11] specific religious organization. So,
they wanted to create something that's
[32:14] kind of spiritual um that uses the
agricultural backdrop of the farm. Um if
[32:21] you've been by it's been it's it's
really in great shape. They've cleaned
[32:24] up all the tree lines and the ponds and
and everything on the property.
[32:30] Um it'd be 1500 square ft. Um it would
be primarily, you know, Friday,
[32:36] Saturday, Sunday, one event per day. You
know, they're looking at christenings,
[32:40] wedding ceremonies.
um things of that nature, you know,
[32:44] celebration of life. There there's no uh
specific event. There's no parties here.
[32:50] There's no music. There's no um it's
really just for that specific
[32:57] um event to happen. Event that ceremon
ceremony to
[33:01] » resolution not to exceed 52 events per
year.
[33:04] » Correct. So, your right to farm law has
very specific restrictions if we want to
[33:10] qualify
um for the limited uh use that we're
[33:15] looking for and for the the expedited
approval. So, we're allowed up to 52
[33:21] events per year and uh only one event
per day. Um we can have up to 300
[33:27] people. This building would be limited
to about 75 80 people tops. It's only
[33:32] 1500 square feet. 75 to 150 is or less
than 75, right?
[33:38] » Yeah, less than 75.
>> So that comes to this board. If it's
[33:40] more than 7 75 to 150 goes to the
planning board without a a major site
[33:45] plan approval and then
>> I think it was over 300
[33:48] » a major, but I I was confused because I
think it said more than 52 in the right
[33:52] to farm rule and then it said 52 in the
resolution or vice versa.
[33:56] » So we're we're proposing 50 52 or less,
right? a maximum of 52, which is what
[34:03] the code um indicates is permissible and
one per day under the right to farm.
[34:09] Otherwise, we got to go to the planning
board if we want to do more than that.
[34:12] Um it also talks about maximum of um 300
people. We're talking 75 people tops. Um
[34:23] there'd be a little gazebo. People could
go take pictures if they'd like to. Um
[34:28] John's been reached out to local
architects to grow on dehan um to come
[34:32] up with a concept. He has like
researched different um chapels kind of
[34:38] throughout the northeast
um and has looked at stained glass
[34:42] windows and pews and all these kind of
things that to try to come up with
[34:46] something that very historically
um historical context for the northeast.
[34:52] Um we'd walk the site. Um, I think it's
a beautiful spot overlooking the pond.
[34:57] Uh, you'll enter in off of Kaiser Town.
It'll be a long u driveway in. There's a
[35:02] stone wall on one side with tree lines.
Uh, you'll be able to see the chapel off
[35:07] in the distance as you pull into the
property. Provided a loop road so that
[35:11] you could drop off directly in front.
You have elderly relatives, something
[35:15] like that, you want to be able to do
that with your handicap parking. Um,
[35:20] there will have to be by code uh
bathrooms. So, there'll be a well and
[35:24] septic provided um for the use of the
building.
[35:29] » Um
>> the question came up about tax break and
[35:32] I talked to John Wood last weekend. He
said they're not looking for a tax
[35:36] » no no tax break. This is really an
agricultural accessory use of the
[35:40] agricultural property which is what your
right right to farm law is talking
[35:43] about.
>> How you bringing the juice in?
[35:46] » How you bring the juice in? Power.
>> Uh we talked about that. Um, it would
[35:51] probably come in along this road here,
uh, underground. We'd like to prefer.
[35:56] Yeah.
[36:00] » Any other any questions?
>> Okay. I'll entertain a motion.
[36:06] » Any
[36:09] obtain a motion to approve or does this
is just discussion? We're not taking
[36:12] action.
>> Discussion. Yeah.
[36:17] » How many parking spaces? Uh we're we're
providing uh 20
[36:26] » based on the size of the building and
you're having you know three per car.
[36:32] » Is there anything?
>> Yes.
[36:34] » I think we need to have a resolution.
>> Okay. So
[36:40] everyone's game.
>> Okay. Is everybody okay with that? Well,
[36:45] » how do thear how do the parking spaces
work per capacity? Is that in that?
[36:51] » Typically, it's one per three seats.
>> It is. Okay.
[36:53] » Yep. For an assembly space like that.
>> Okay. Will can draw draw up a resolution
[36:58] for the next meeting. We'll have to put
conditions in there.
[37:01] » Okay. I didn't hear what you said. So,
just to follow up on this question,
[37:05] » one parking
>> one spot for three people
[37:07] » for three seats. Yeah. In the building.
Yeah.
[37:10] » Assembly is typically that.
>> How many? There's 20. So we have 20
[37:14] parking spots.
>> 20 parking.
[37:16] » Yep. We can have less or more. John's
not We just tried to do what we thought
[37:20] was right and not overdo it. I mean, we
This is really just an accessory small
[37:25] facility that's complimentary. We don't
want to have a big parking lot out there
[37:29] if we don't something we can't charge um
a legal fee or or engineering fees for
[37:34] this. Yeah.
>> Well,
[37:38] » because that cultural
>> talk to I mean I like the idea of that.
[37:45] » Well,
quite honestly, it's not it's not going
[37:48] to take me that much time to put an
approval resolution together. You just
[37:53] have to make sure that everything in the
in the proposal meets the agurism law as
[37:59] it's written and that it fits into all
the categories.
[38:07] Yeah. And we went through those
categories well and you'll find them
[38:10] under note six um with the corresponding
letter for the code. So
[38:19] » really
[38:24] » is that okay with the board? Do you a
motion for that?
[38:27] » No.
>> Okay. All right. Does anybody have a
[38:30] problem with Will doing that with Jim
and Ross?
[38:34] the next meeting.
>> Well, that's that's what I mean. Yeah.
[38:38] » Hello. Does anybody have a problem with
>> No. And then we can adjust it to the law
[38:42] as we have.
>> Okay.
[38:44] » All right.
>> Thank you very much.
[38:45] » Move ahead.
>> Okay. One more thing.
[38:50] » Yes.
>> Pleasure.
[38:58] Real estate candidate.
Like everyone else, I also work for
[39:02] Ross.
[39:05] I'll prepare a resolution to the board
to look at issue.
[39:10] » Okay.
>> I got it.
[39:15] » Thank you.
>> Thank you.
[39:16] » Thanks, Ross. Okay. Um, audit abstract
number 15, payrolls number 16 and 17,
[39:22] vouchers number 26-01358-2601519,
[39:29] excuse me. Payroll total $524,380.30.
30 voucher detail total $952,5302
[39:39] total amount 1.4 million76
$910.32
[39:44] motion to approve.
>> I'll make that motion.
[39:46] » Can we get a second?
>> I'll second it. All
[39:49] » in favor?
>> I
[39:52] » opposed. Car. Okay. Um, open public
comment. You're up first, Sid.
[39:59] » See, we moving along here. This is this
meeting won't be 2 hours 46 miles.
[40:02] » Just listening to the Carson farm. I was
just thinking all the hay bales over the
[40:06] years that I used to throw over there.
>> Maybe you get in John Maren's good
[40:10] graces. You and Karen never had a renew.
>> If you get in John's and Marlene's good
[40:15] graces, if this goes forward, maybe you
and Karen can renew
[40:18] » you and Karen can renew your vows out of
this chapel if it goes [laughter]
[40:21] forward. We probably give you a good
price.
[40:26] [laughter]
[40:28] » She wasn't looking. Good for you.
>> Oh, lordy.
[40:33] [laughter]
>> Yeah.
[40:36] I have two items. Am I stuck with three
minutes or is that the other five
[40:41] minutes here?
>> I get five. Okay. I'll probably go in
[40:43] the future, but you're good for
>> um
[40:46] I'm going to start with our village
um
[40:53] village of Montgomery tractor parade
this year.
[40:57] Uh, is this Saturday?
>> We won't count this toward your speaking
[41:00] time.
>> Okay,
[41:02] » I appreciate that.
>> I'll look at that.
[41:04] » Um,
parade goes off at 12:00 noon sharp.
[41:09] Um, as we ask that there's no throwing a
candy or political signs or advertising
[41:15] cuz it's as in other years. Now, this
year the parade route's going to change
[41:20] a little bit. It's going to start on
Railroad Avenue like usual and hopefully
[41:24] we'll be able to use the parking lot
yet. Um if that changes, we'll let
[41:30] everybody know when they get there if we
have to park across the street over to
[41:35] skips. But um we're going to go down
railroad, make a right on Senior Street,
[41:41] and then make another right on Walkill
Avenue, then a left on Charles Street,
[41:47] then a right on Union, which is Route
211, then a right on Clinton Street, and
[41:52] then left on Walkill over to Skips.
That keeps us
[41:56] » That's a lot shorter then, right?
>> It's a little bit, not too much. Uh, I
[42:02] drove my truck around. I'm maybe a
couple ten of a mile shorter. Skip will
[42:07] still be happy. It's make more turns,
but so, but that's
[42:14] the weather has changed to where it's
supposed to be nice for the weekend. So,
[42:19] uh, we can be happy with that. We have
yet to have a bad weekend for the
[42:24] tractor parade.
>> How many years will this be?
[42:27] Karen
>> um I'm going to say roughly 15.
[42:31] » Yeah, right around 15 years. So, it's
always been good. Um now, my next thing
[42:39] is on uh agriculture.
Orange County Land Trust came across my
[42:46] uh Facebook a few weeks ago. The New
York State Department of Agon Markets is
[42:52] celebrating 30 years of its farmland
protection implementation grants program
[42:58] this year. In recognition of their w
milestone, New York State Department of
[43:04] Agen Markets will highlight 30 success
stories from across the street. The
[43:09] state through the end of this year.
Orange County's own Belleville Farms
[43:15] which is in Warwick is among those that
are going to be featured in this series.
[43:20] Um we have one, two, three, four, five,
six, seven parcels
[43:26] in town of Montgomery that are on
farmland preservation.
[43:32] I just want to go over the the ladies
down in the office downstairs
[43:38] were very helpful. They gave me about
800 pages of reading material for all
[43:43] the uh
conservative conservation easements, but
[43:47] I'm shorten it up to 3 minutes now. The
purpose of this conservation easement
[43:53] was to preserve the productive
agriculture lands and natural resources
[43:58] associated with the properties for the
benefit of the public and of future
[44:03] generations.
and to asssure that the properties will
[44:08] be retained forever in its predominantly
a scenic historic and open space
[44:14] condition.
No mining, drilling or extracting of
[44:19] oil, gas, gravel or minerals on or under
the property shall be permitted that
[44:25] causes disruption of the surface of the
property that adversely affects the
[44:30] agricultural production or the
preservation of scenic views. nor
[44:35] subdivide for any and all residential,
commercial or industrial purposes or any
[44:42] activities which are not incidental to
agg or open space.
[44:49] The common desire
is to conserve these resources in order
[44:54] to prevent the use or development of the
property for any purpose or in any
[44:59] manner which would conflict with the
maintenance of these resource values or
[45:03] impair the in
or impair or interfere with the
[45:09] conservation values of the properties.
potential uses of the properties are
[45:14] limited and that the granter, the heirs,
successors and assigns shall only be
[45:21] entitled to use, lease, maintain or
improve the property for agg and or open
[45:27] space use.
The owner of the property conveys the
[45:31] right to preserve and protect
conservation values of these properties
[45:35] in perpetuity. That's like buying a
cemetery plot forever.
[45:40] It's not just from one owner to the
next. I know um
[45:46] these farms that are in the in town of
Montgomery that are in the farmland are
[45:50] the Hudson farm which was on Albany it's
on Albany Post Road.
[45:55] Uh the Zilster Farm on Albany Poston and
Hill Avenue, Hookster Farm on Searsville
[46:01] Road, the Menendez farm which is on
Walkill Road in Walden, Hawkins on River
[46:08] Road, the Brock Farm on River Road, and
the Miller Farm which is on Beaver Dam
[46:14] and Rockerfeller Lane.
>> Deerfield.
[46:19] » Deerfield, too.
>> Well, ours Harrison Brock bought our
[46:23] farm.
>> No, Deerfield. airfield. I'm sure I
[46:26] don't know how I missed that one. I have
to talk to the girls downstairs.
[46:30] » I missed.
>> Okay. [laughter]
[46:32] » Where's
52? Backs up to Angry Orchard. Is that
[46:39] the one we just did?
>> No. No, that's
[46:42] » Backs up to Angry Orchard.
>> Oh, okay.
[46:45] » I got you.
>> County Land Trust Protected.
[46:47] » Yes. You were on the board, Regin. I
think my father Well, you were on the
[46:51] board with my father-in-law, Glenn, at
the time, too. Phil and
[46:56] the the farmers were all paid with our
tax money to
[47:02] keep this as always agriculture. And not
for nothing, folks. You look around all
[47:08] these pictures here, all these farms. I
mean, you'd hate to see you lose that.
[47:12] So, you need to stay diligent and keep
up the good work. Thank you very much.
[47:19] » I'll just say, sir, we are and we can't
talk about litigation. understood.
[47:23] » But Mark and I were out there last week
and uh
[47:27] » you know, we're moving forward. It's
taking a long time to get resolved, but
[47:30] it it will happen because
>> it's just um not just that. I I had it
[47:35] in my head before to talk about it cuz
it's 30 years ago. A lot of folks have
[47:39] forgotten about it.
>> I mean, you you had Glenn's
[47:43] documentation and you you threw it away,
right?
[47:47] » Yeah. I had all of his paperwork, but
Yeah. And another good one that was done
[47:52] through the planning board and cluster
is the 12 farm. Doc Kelly buying that
[47:57] that side of the road there. That's a
that's a beautiful thing.
[48:00] » Yes, absolutely. I mean, most of these
farms are very wellkept. Uh the Menedz
[48:07] farm, they're having open house on the
farm this fall. Do you know when that
[48:11] is?
>> 26th.
[48:12] » The 26th of this month. I mean, it's an
open house. They've done a beautiful job
[48:17] over there taking care of it. Melissa uh
Melissa I think it is. Yes. But yeah,
[48:23] » she's still doing the dairy farming,
right?
[48:25] » Yeah,
>> she's still she's the only one left
[48:27] doing the
>> Yes, she's she's running the farm. So,
[48:30] yep. Milk and cows and uh they have some
beef animals and whatnot there, too. So,
[48:36] but uh
>> Well, thank you for that. And I remember
[48:38] when I was in the legislature,
Montgomery was the second in Orange
[48:42] County with the most working farms and
also the most PDRs like [snorts] this.
[48:47] » Yes. I mean, we're we're down
>> is number one, but
[48:50] » we don't Yeah. I mean, farms, we have a
bunch of them yet, but dairy farms,
[48:55] we're down to about a handful
>> in Montgomery area. We're down to two in
[49:00] Montgomery. Okay, Mark. Thank you.
>> I hate to say it, but yeah.
[49:04] » But, uh, now one one other thing while
I'm thinking of it, uh, the 911, uh,
[49:11] there's a memorial every year at the,
uh,
[49:15] » Arborita.
>> Arburum. Yeah. Yeah, our burrito and
[49:19] Karen and I have gone to that just about
every year we're able and it's if you
[49:23] haven't planned on going to a memorial
service, that is one to definitely go
[49:27] to.
>> That's the best attended in the county.
[49:31] So,
>> I haven't been in a couple years with
[49:33] Thank you, Sid.
>> All right. Thank you.
[49:34] » Okay, we got you out of here pretty
quick, right?
[49:36] » Super dinner time. State
[laughter]
[49:46] Farms and Marxist conservation is going
to be
[49:49] » Oh, yeah. You should know that one. Sid.
That's That's where roots are.
[49:55] » Over at
>> Sycamore Farms.
[49:57] » Yes.
>> Right. Sycamore Farms did the uh
[50:02] conservation easement and we worked
through a market. Yes. Elevator and we
[50:07] went through the whole process
property. The money was possessed you
[50:12] know through a markets and then
as you know right on that farm right on
[50:18] 21.
>> Yes.
[50:25] » Yeah. Karen's parents live very close by
there 21.
[50:29] » Wasn't one of this wasn't one of
somebody from that farm on TV from
[50:32] somewhere down in the city recently?
>> Oh, um
[50:38] Kevin Kevin Smith there. He did a thing
down here. They had a big thing. They
[50:43] used to grow special tomatoes, potatoes
that the old women down in the New York
[50:48] City would go nut. They pay $5 for a
tomato down. Well, Smitty and Smitty and
[50:54] Happy
[51:00] was one of the first people and I own
Billy me down once.
[51:09] » Thank you again, Sid. Okay,
final uh speaker, Mark Belchesky. You're
[51:15] good. You wave. Okay. Thank you.
>> Okay.
[51:18] » You yielding your time?
>> He's yielding. [laughter]
[51:22] You're speechless. It's hard to believe
you're speechless.
[51:27] » You did it all last night.
>> Okay. Anything else? We need to our
[51:31] quick executive on the lease, right?
>> On town matter.
[51:34] » Yep.
>> Okay. Anything?
[51:36] » Okay. I'll entertain a motion to go in
executive session under
[51:41] potential litigation.
>> I'll make that motion.
[51:44] » Pending litigation.
[51:48] » Yes. and also a um
>> health department of concern. Okay,
[51:53] » got it.
>> Okay. Um Sherry makes it.
[51:56] » Y second.
>> All in favor?
[52:01] » This will be possibly a vote when we
come out on the tax.
[52:08] and
[52:15] we need to talk.
[52:19] Was it worth the tax?
[1:10:43] Yeah, you can.
>> Okay. I will entertain a motion uh for
[1:10:48] the proposed settlement and tax certiary
matter of town McGomery and Hudson River
[1:10:53] Housing Incorporated and Neighborhood
Gardens LLC motion number 111-5-16.
[1:11:00] Motion to approve that settlement
>> pursuant pursuant to the recommendation
[1:11:04] of our special tax certari council
>> and our assessor
[1:11:08] » and our assessor.
>> Okay, Mark, you made a motion.
[1:11:10] » Yes.
>> Cindy second. All in favor?
[1:11:14] » I opposed. Carry.
>> Okay. Motion to adjurnn.
[1:11:18] » I'll make that motion.
>> Second.
[1:11:21] » All in favor?
>> I