1 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:29,920 Test, test, test, test. 2 00:09:05,980 --> 00:09:10,780 Good morning, everyone. I'd like to welcome you to our city council work session for Tuesday, 3 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:15,940 September 2nd. It is 10 a.m. We're going to go ahead and kick off the meeting. We do allow 4 00:09:15,940 --> 00:09:20,280 public to attend these meetings, but we do not take public comment during these meetings. 5 00:09:22,060 --> 00:09:25,500 And with that, we'll go ahead and we'll get kicked off on our very first item, the letter 6 00:09:25,500 --> 00:09:30,040 of support of grant writing assistance for the governor's office, for an application 7 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:35,100 of the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency for the Bullock Power Plant Project, and this 8 00:09:35,100 --> 00:09:38,500 is Chris Ottinger, our Special Community Development Specialist. 9 00:09:38,740 --> 00:09:40,820 Good morning, Mayor and City Council. 10 00:09:41,700 --> 00:09:50,340 Yes, today is a quick request for a letter of support, so it's presenting an application 11 00:09:50,340 --> 00:09:54,900 for grant rating assistance from the Governor's Office that they have for this specific type 12 00:09:54,900 --> 00:09:55,540 of program. 13 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:59,300 Again, this is for the Bullock Power Plant. 14 00:09:59,780 --> 00:10:03,000 So as you remember, remember we applied for a grant last year. 15 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:05,600 We are unsuccessful for that cycle. 16 00:10:06,260 --> 00:10:11,800 So we are looking for some capacity expansion as well as some just expert professional 17 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:17,400 help for just pushing this just a little bit further up in competitiveness. 18 00:10:18,340 --> 00:10:26,240 So with that, the governor's office offers this for the infrastructure bill. 19 00:10:26,980 --> 00:10:30,360 This is something they're able to use to apply for those types of funds. 20 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:37,220 And so in order to do that, we just need to have a letter from the council saying that 21 00:10:37,220 --> 00:10:41,980 this is something that is a priority for the community, and that's what I have for 22 00:10:41,980 --> 00:10:42,460 you today. 23 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:48,860 All right. I've read the letter. It looks pretty well written, pretty concise. 24 00:10:50,380 --> 00:10:50,680 Right 25 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:55,160 on the way. I was up to three board meeting. 26 00:10:56,560 --> 00:11:00,500 So we're on item A. We're just talking about the letter of support for the EPA. 27 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:06,840 Any questions for Mr. Ottinger? I think this is one of those fairly cut and dried evidence. 28 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:09,640 Yes, sir. Any expense to the Senate for that? 29 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:14,440 And there's no expense for this. This is in order to alleviate some of that burden. 30 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:16,700 and that's what the governor's office is offering, 31 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:17,980 so free grant writing assistance. 32 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:18,780 Thank you. 33 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:20,820 We like free grant writing assistance. 34 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:21,140 Yes. 35 00:11:22,020 --> 00:11:22,520 Absolutely. 36 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:23,220 All right. 37 00:11:24,220 --> 00:11:24,840 No other questions? 38 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:26,600 We'll go ahead and move on to item B. 39 00:11:27,660 --> 00:11:29,800 The METSA third amended and restated 40 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:30,920 intergovernmental agreement. 41 00:11:31,580 --> 00:11:33,860 City Attorney Christouzi, city manager Bill Bell, 42 00:11:34,060 --> 00:11:35,100 and police chief Blaine Hall. 43 00:11:35,860 --> 00:11:37,840 Mr. Reed has a comment. 44 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:42,220 Yes, because of my representation of METSA, 45 00:11:42,220 --> 00:11:48,020 I'm going to recuse myself from the discussion, and go ahead and move on. 46 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:48,960 Thank you. 47 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:06,020 And while it is our policy for people to recuse themselves from items we are voting on at 48 00:12:06,020 --> 00:12:12,500 this point, Mr. Reed is just being cautious and being very transparent, since we are 49 00:12:12,500 --> 00:12:17,840 not voting on any items today, but we will hand this off to our city staff, Mr. Dowsy. 50 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:19,180 Would you like to go ahead and kick us off? 51 00:12:19,420 --> 00:12:20,020 Thank you, Mayor Frank. 52 00:12:20,460 --> 00:12:20,780 Yes. 53 00:12:20,780 --> 00:12:27,740 Yes, what this is is going to be our intergovernmental agreement with METSA, our E-911 service provider. 54 00:12:29,500 --> 00:12:38,960 The impetus for this third amended and restated intergovernmental agreement is that OSETSA, 55 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:45,500 one of the E-911s for Uriah County, they have come to an agreement with. 56 00:12:46,060 --> 00:12:47,980 Could you explain what all the acronyms mean, please? 57 00:12:48,020 --> 00:12:48,880 Yes, yes, yes. 58 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:56,280 So, METSA is going to be the Montrose Emergency Telephone Service Authority. 59 00:12:57,100 --> 00:13:02,040 OSESSA is going to be Ureay County Emergency Telephone Service Authority. 60 00:13:02,260 --> 00:13:07,360 So it's all of the separate E911 entities for the region. 61 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:17,860 So the impetus for this is that OSESSA, Ureay counties, is intending on dissolving and 62 00:13:17,860 --> 00:13:25,040 actually having METSA essentially run their E911. 63 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:31,900 So Urey County is going to be party to this agreement instead of OSESA. 64 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:36,400 So that is the main substantive change. 65 00:13:36,740 --> 00:13:43,980 Outside of that, everything is really just updating different language to update with 66 00:13:43,980 --> 00:13:45,800 Colorado RISE statutes. 67 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:55,410 be happy to answer any questions on this. Any questions for Mr. Dowsy? And if I 68 00:13:55,410 --> 00:14:00,230 don't have the answer, we do have Matt Gage, the Executive Director of Metzahir. 69 00:14:00,910 --> 00:14:08,110 He is much more well versed in their inner inner goings than I am. Because when I was 70 00:14:08,110 --> 00:14:11,130 reviewing this document I didn't see anything other than standard boiler plate 71 00:14:11,130 --> 00:14:17,530 and there's the adaptation to modern terms yes yeah they there really hasn't 72 00:14:17,530 --> 00:14:23,550 been many changes like I said the only real substantive change is changing 73 00:14:24,410 --> 00:14:29,030 Osetza to Urey County and I was speaking with Matt Gaetz right before 74 00:14:29,030 --> 00:14:35,610 this eight of the members seven of the members have approved this IGA we will 75 00:14:35,610 --> 00:14:40,990 be the eighth it'll be before council in two weeks if in fact it passes we'd 76 00:14:40,990 --> 00:14:47,070 be the eighth. Very good. Any other questions? Matt, how many years have you been with Mesa? 77 00:14:51,630 --> 00:14:55,770 And Paul, you've been there almost as long. A long time. 78 00:15:01,420 --> 00:15:02,320 So thank you. 79 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:05,280 I think Paul was involved when they were using semaphore flags, so. 80 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:08,200 All right. 81 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:16,400 Well, thank you very much for your service to that. 82 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:22,260 All right, with no other questions or comments, you guys have anything else to add, chief? 83 00:15:22,860 --> 00:15:23,400 Bill, anything? 84 00:15:24,380 --> 00:15:28,380 Yeah, again, this is, looks like standard adaptation of boilerplate. 85 00:15:28,780 --> 00:15:33,180 Yeah, like I said, we already have an agreement in place, the IGA. 86 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:36,760 It's really just updating language. 87 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:39,320 Okay. Excellent. Moving on, 88 00:15:42,330 --> 00:15:44,570 met that agent. I have to put my glasses back on every time. 89 00:15:45,910 --> 00:15:50,890 Our next item is the appointment of alternate member of the METSA Board, Chief Hall. 90 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:58,780 Thanks, Mayor. So in the same vein talking about METSA with the departure of Dree Cole, 91 00:15:59,500 --> 00:16:06,840 we need to appoint an alternate representative to be on the Board if I am absent. And so 92 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:13,580 So I would request that we appoint W. Chief Larry Whitty to that alternate position, and 93 00:16:13,580 --> 00:16:20,880 the IGA basically mandates that that position is appointed in the same way that I am appointed. 94 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:25,120 So coming before you all today to request that. 95 00:16:27,500 --> 00:16:28,780 Do you have a question, Chief Hall? 96 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:32,720 I think that this is one of those no-brainers. 97 00:16:33,900 --> 00:16:34,920 Need an alternate. 98 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:36,000 Need an alternate. 99 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:46,960 apparently Larry was out of the room at the time so yes got it got it okay in 100 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:52,400 that case moving on to item D legal representation agreement for potential 101 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:57,700 second Montrose your urban renewal authority project and we're going to 102 00:16:57,700 --> 00:17:03,980 start this with I can start we okay so we have talked about it at previous 103 00:17:03,980 --> 00:17:09,720 meetings where we have some of the projects downtown redeveloping some of 104 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:15,180 those historic areas a lot of the demo work that's needed the redevelopment and 105 00:17:15,180 --> 00:17:19,960 hazard mitigation those types of things right in our downtown core and so this 106 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:25,000 is a request to put Paul Benedetti who was the URA attorney that helped us 107 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:30,120 set up the mirror and his new younger partner because Paul's trying to retire 108 00:17:30,620 --> 00:17:35,860 Eventually, he has Nick on board with him now, and so this is just a retainer for legal 109 00:17:35,860 --> 00:17:42,140 services for them to help walk us through the process and to help get the next steps done, 110 00:17:42,260 --> 00:17:48,500 which is identify what areas downtown we would want to include in a plan, what kind of a 111 00:17:48,500 --> 00:17:52,020 blight study would need to be done, and then they would perform that if we want 112 00:17:52,020 --> 00:17:53,500 them to move forward in that capacity. 113 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:58,740 So right now, it's just to get them a SCOPA service that we can start working 114 00:17:58,740 --> 00:18:04,100 working with them with Council's approval on the next steps as a second project area. 115 00:18:04,340 --> 00:18:07,300 So just as a reminder, it's not creating another urban renewal authority. 116 00:18:07,860 --> 00:18:10,420 The Montrose Urban Renewal Authority covers the entire city. 117 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:13,820 And then we have Project Area 1, which is Colorado Outdoors. 118 00:18:14,340 --> 00:18:18,040 And now we're talking just right in the heart of downtown for some of these old historic 119 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:22,300 buildings that need a lot of work for redevelopment, Project Area Number 2. 120 00:18:23,360 --> 00:18:24,360 So that's it. 121 00:18:24,660 --> 00:18:25,520 Anything I missed, Anthony? 122 00:18:25,740 --> 00:18:25,980 You want to add? 123 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:31,800 I think one of the things that I like about this is that by doing a second project area 124 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:37,780 for our URA it gives us that tax increment financing option to be able to help fund some 125 00:18:37,780 --> 00:18:42,620 of these projects because some of the projects are really outside the scope of the ability 126 00:18:42,620 --> 00:18:47,060 of the city to just put on our own and I think this is a great opportunity for us. 127 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:52,260 And just as a quick clarification in the packet for the City Council meeting tonight 128 00:18:52,260 --> 00:18:59,540 It was miss it was a typo in there said it was bear creek law, and it is bear peak law 129 00:18:59,540 --> 00:19:04,100 And that has been corrected, but I just want to make that clarification. Yeah, that's good 130 00:19:04,100 --> 00:19:11,640 Well, you're correcting things and adding the paper for the work session and council meetings. 131 00:19:12,300 --> 00:19:15,300 I think instead of MESA, it was MESA. 132 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:19,840 Matt agrees. 133 00:19:20,120 --> 00:19:20,560 It's a MESA. 134 00:19:20,980 --> 00:19:22,680 It's a MESA guy's doing a job. 135 00:19:25,300 --> 00:19:31,440 No, on this one, I feel really good about having Paul Bennett and Eddie come back to do this again 136 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:37,600 because he was very helpful when we started to begin with and I feel 137 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:42,680 confident that this will just grow. We don't have to explain what we're going 138 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:44,340 and what we want to do to somebody new. 139 00:19:46,420 --> 00:19:49,340 Paul Benedetti is without 140 00:19:49,340 --> 00:19:54,880 question the state expert on URAs if not one of the leading national experts 141 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:58,440 on URAs, so having him involved. 142 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:03,780 He worked on all the new legislation related to URAs in the state, he was kind of the father 143 00:20:03,780 --> 00:20:07,000 of that document, along with Caroline White who was helping the city of Delta. 144 00:20:08,300 --> 00:20:13,760 So this is on the agenda tonight as well to be able to give us that authority if 145 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:16,440 you should choose to vote on that tonight in that direction. 146 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:21,320 And he's actually staying on for our project, he wants ours to be the transitional project 147 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:25,840 from him to Nick so he'll be actively involved in ours and this might be his 148 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:30,580 last project in the state. Well that's bad. Yeah good for us. 149 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:54,440 Not yet because we don't know what we want to do exactly so once we once 150 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:59,900 Once we have the authority at that $400 per hour rate, then we'll have a meeting with 151 00:20:59,900 --> 00:21:04,820 them and we'll talk about what we would want them to do as far as scope of service and 152 00:21:04,820 --> 00:21:07,820 then we'll come back to City Council for a not to exceed amount. 153 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:11,080 And then that'll outline the actual work that he's going to be doing. 154 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:15,500 But they weren't comfortable unless they at least had some kind of a legal arrangement 155 00:21:15,500 --> 00:21:18,800 to represent us, because they have had other clients in the region. 156 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:22,000 So I just want to make sure they're clear on who they're representing on different 157 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:22,420 projects. 158 00:21:23,340 --> 00:21:30,160 I'm not opposed. I just do have some concern about starting another redevelopment project 159 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:38,220 downtown when I see the one that we are currently working on hasn't seen in my opinion a lot 160 00:21:38,220 --> 00:21:43,280 of activity and I'm concerned about having two of these things going at the same time 161 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:52,540 and losing focus on one and putting it on another and I was just curious as to 162 00:21:52,540 --> 00:21:59,460 possibly the the future as to what could happen you know we haven't had a 163 00:21:59,460 --> 00:22:03,610 meeting for this one out there and months and months and months and months I 164 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:08,860 think almost last year was the last time we had a meeting and there's no 165 00:22:08,860 --> 00:22:15,100 been there's been no update as to what's happening out there and and I was just 166 00:22:15,100 --> 00:22:20,660 concerned that we start another project not that I again not that I'm opposed to 167 00:22:20,660 --> 00:22:26,740 it but it's just interesting to find out and kind of stay ahead of this I 168 00:22:26,740 --> 00:22:32,920 apologize for my overzealousness I've been sick for four weeks and I've lost 169 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:38,560 weight and I have more energy now than I've had in years so pretty bad 170 00:22:41,580 --> 00:22:48,820 I think one of the reasons we're doing this, we're setting this up is to find out the feasibility 171 00:22:48,820 --> 00:22:56,100 and really should we do a second work area, what it would entail, that's kind of the reason 172 00:22:56,100 --> 00:22:56,680 for this. 173 00:22:56,820 --> 00:23:03,560 Yeah, that hasn't been decided at all, this is to allow us to talk about those next steps. 174 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,040 And there has been activity out in the other one. 175 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:13,640 We've already approved at the last meeting the green line development and the mixed use commercial and then the second hotel 176 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:17,120 that was at the last you are a meeting and so they're just 177 00:23:17,120 --> 00:23:24,800 Working through those processes and so we in the interim between then and today. We've created the 178 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:26,440 URA board manual 179 00:23:27,380 --> 00:23:31,060 Over this period of time so we have that to hand out to all the board members 180 00:23:31,060 --> 00:23:36,680 When we have the next meeting, but there hasn't been a new projects to talk about in the last couple of months 181 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:40,500 And that's why we haven't had a meeting well and and I'll add to that bill as well 182 00:23:40,500 --> 00:23:43,140 Is that one of the things they're working on now is with Green Line? 183 00:23:43,620 --> 00:23:49,780 You know coming forward and they're putting their scheduling together and kind of getting ready to to move forward on the commercial piece first 184 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:56,320 But there's also dialogue with the jacuz and their River Edge project that they had already announced previously 185 00:23:56,320 --> 00:24:00,940 So that's moving forward. It's just they're in process. It's there's nothing to talk about 186 00:24:01,980 --> 00:24:11,320 Well, just as a board member, I would just sometimes an update is maybe not an official 187 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:17,840 board meeting, but sometimes an update might just make things a little bit more clear for 188 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,400 myself as a member of the mayor board. 189 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:20,920 Thank you. 190 00:24:23,890 --> 00:24:24,630 All right. 191 00:24:25,370 --> 00:24:32,290 If there's nothing else on that item, then we will move on to next item, E, City Council 192 00:24:32,290 --> 00:24:38,750 support to approve a grant modification request to a previously awarded local planning capacity 193 00:24:38,750 --> 00:24:42,570 grant through the state of Colorado. And this is our community development director, 194 00:24:42,850 --> 00:24:47,690 Jayce Huckball. Yeah, good morning, Council. This is a pretty quick item as well, 195 00:24:47,830 --> 00:24:53,690 kind of similar to Chris's that he presented. But in short, what we're looking at here is 196 00:24:54,150 --> 00:24:58,970 a modification to an awarded grant. So we were awarded 48,000 last year through the 197 00:24:58,970 --> 00:25:04,170 the local planning capacity grant program through the Colorado Department of Local Affairs. 198 00:25:04,690 --> 00:25:10,990 We actually received an additional $50,000 unmatched funding because we were one of the 199 00:25:10,990 --> 00:25:14,830 first cities to implement an expedited review program for housing. 200 00:25:15,190 --> 00:25:17,750 The state recognized that and has given us some extra money. 201 00:25:18,350 --> 00:25:21,830 And that extra money goes within our existing awarded grant. 202 00:25:22,050 --> 00:25:27,170 So we're getting, again, $50,000 supplemented on top of that $48,000. 203 00:25:27,710 --> 00:25:29,770 we have a total match of $12,000. 204 00:25:30,170 --> 00:25:33,150 That was what was original to the original grant requests. 205 00:25:33,610 --> 00:25:35,310 But with that new funding, what we'll do 206 00:25:35,310 --> 00:25:36,890 is utilize it for another year 207 00:25:36,890 --> 00:25:39,030 of our permitting system software. 208 00:25:39,250 --> 00:25:42,210 We are in the process of transitioning systems. 209 00:25:42,550 --> 00:25:44,810 Again, kind of going with the trend of modernizing 210 00:25:45,690 --> 00:25:47,630 all things that we do within building and planning, 211 00:25:47,790 --> 00:25:48,830 which is going successful. 212 00:25:49,170 --> 00:25:51,370 But that'll pay for another year-long subscription 213 00:25:51,370 --> 00:25:52,490 of the new service. 214 00:25:52,830 --> 00:25:54,710 It will pay for some tablets 215 00:25:54,710 --> 00:25:56,830 for our inspectors out in the field 216 00:25:56,830 --> 00:26:01,110 to be able to do things more quickly instead of having to come back, document everything 217 00:26:01,110 --> 00:26:05,350 in the office, they can do it actually out in the field, and then a little bit of funding 218 00:26:05,350 --> 00:26:08,330 that will go towards continuing education for our planning staff. 219 00:26:09,370 --> 00:26:14,110 All this funding is kind of right within, falls within that local planning capacity 220 00:26:14,110 --> 00:26:15,290 grant guidelines. 221 00:26:15,830 --> 00:26:20,450 We can't just use the $50,000 to anything, so we had to kind of cater it to what 222 00:26:20,450 --> 00:26:23,890 we needed and what we saw and what could help us out moving forward. 223 00:26:23,890 --> 00:26:32,690 So as part of that, we just need a letter supporting or of support from City Council and the Mayor similar to Chris's. 224 00:26:34,030 --> 00:26:42,490 And that's about it. The other thing we're doing here is also extending our grant deadline from the end of this year to the end of next year to account for that year-long subscription. 225 00:26:43,290 --> 00:26:47,710 But pretty straightforward, exciting to receive free money. So we're happy about it. 226 00:26:49,150 --> 00:26:56,670 free money. Is this system compatible with what the city already has? We're in 227 00:26:56,670 --> 00:27:01,070 the process of implementing it right now so it'll be more streamlined. It'll allow 228 00:27:01,070 --> 00:27:05,430 for online smills for applicants in the public so it'll actually, the hope is 229 00:27:05,430 --> 00:27:11,190 that it would take less administrative burden off of staff. Applicants could 230 00:27:11,190 --> 00:27:19,130 do it more seamlessly online, could pay online, do a lot of things just in a 231 00:27:19,130 --> 00:27:24,110 all kind of all all streamlined works well with laser fission some of the other 232 00:27:24,110 --> 00:27:29,770 programs that the city already has it is ADA accessible which our current system 233 00:27:29,770 --> 00:27:34,430 is not so that is a good transition that we're making with that all good 234 00:27:34,430 --> 00:27:35,450 things across the board. 235 00:27:38,500 --> 00:27:42,840 Any other questions for Mr. Hawkwalt? All right 236 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:47,400 moving on. Next item is a memorandum of agreement between City of Montrose 237 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:53,780 volunteers of American National Services, and Magic Circle players, and Mr. Bell. 238 00:27:57,870 --> 00:28:02,250 All right, this is the documentation to go along with some previous discussions we've 239 00:28:02,250 --> 00:28:10,290 had about the need to help a few different entities get some stuff done in the community. 240 00:28:10,530 --> 00:28:18,230 So as a summary on the project, we have the property out near the pavilion and between 241 00:28:18,230 --> 00:28:23,570 there and the community gardens that we used to dump snow and pile different 242 00:28:23,570 --> 00:28:27,830 things kind of staging area for construction projects underutilized area 243 00:28:27,830 --> 00:28:32,190 of town. We also have VOA that's out there expanding they're about to have 244 00:28:32,190 --> 00:28:37,790 their their opening of their new facility just south of this location and 245 00:28:37,790 --> 00:28:41,930 then they're kind of landlocked in that area and so for long-term plans for 246 00:28:41,930 --> 00:28:46,370 VOA and expansion plans to serve our community which is primarily the 55 247 00:28:46,370 --> 00:28:53,350 plus or disabled community, people with special needs, and the different senior care programs 248 00:28:53,350 --> 00:28:57,630 that are offered by VOA, that area near the pavilion and the senior center has become 249 00:28:57,630 --> 00:29:01,450 kind of the hub in our community for senior services. 250 00:29:02,090 --> 00:29:08,350 In order to have long-term plans on expansion and capital planning, they could use that 251 00:29:08,350 --> 00:29:08,810 property. 252 00:29:09,330 --> 00:29:15,130 We're not using it for anything of significant value other than public works knows they 253 00:29:15,130 --> 00:29:18,630 We need a new snow dump site, but we're working with them on different locations. 254 00:29:19,350 --> 00:29:23,850 Another thing that's come up in discussions over the past several years is the unique 255 00:29:23,850 --> 00:29:26,710 situation of Magic Circle Players, our community theater. 256 00:29:27,310 --> 00:29:33,590 They are in the building there next to Safeway, the alley between Safeway Building and the 257 00:29:33,590 --> 00:29:36,290 theater building is behind there. 258 00:29:36,410 --> 00:29:42,210 Everything leading from that alleyway out to the street is owned by VOA, all the 259 00:29:42,210 --> 00:29:42,530 land. 260 00:29:42,530 --> 00:29:46,650 because they have the housing adjacent to that property. 261 00:29:47,530 --> 00:29:49,970 And the building itself is owned by Magic Circle, 262 00:29:50,470 --> 00:29:53,010 but they can't get loans to expand their operations 263 00:29:53,010 --> 00:29:56,750 or to do necessary improvements in that building 264 00:29:56,750 --> 00:29:58,870 because they don't own the land underneath, 265 00:29:59,090 --> 00:29:59,970 they just can't go out. 266 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:06,040 Borrow money or the rely on private donations. They were able to do about a million dollars to do 267 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:12,860 aesthetic renovations with Striker construction. The city helped with the advertising sign that's 268 00:30:12,860 --> 00:30:17,880 out there and some of the electrical work and then Striker did the building facade improvements 269 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:24,000 and we participated with the facade grant for that project. So this is to take it one step 270 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:29,360 further and really to help them plan for the next 50 years, they need to acquire the 271 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:34,840 land underneath that building. So we started conversations, Jace talked and Anthony quite 272 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:40,080 a bit and then I did with the director of VOA and with the director at Magic Circle. 273 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:49,940 And so this agreement shows kind of a three-part arrangement where we would exchange properties 274 00:30:49,940 --> 00:30:57,340 with VOA. They would give us the land underneath Magic Circle. Our land's worth about $30,000 275 00:30:57,340 --> 00:31:01,400 dollars more so they would pay that difference at the time of the exchange so 276 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:06,080 the city's made hole on that and then that would allow Magic Circle to have a 277 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:11,780 capital campaign to go out and raise funds to acquire the property from us so 278 00:31:11,780 --> 00:31:15,600 then they own the property so that's what this three-way exchange is all 279 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:19,180 about and outlines steps with that and that kind of thing 280 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:24,120 not the parking 281 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:30,000 lot all the way to the street from alley to the street yeah the side of 282 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:36,060 the Safeway Building, actually the pins are about a foot away from the wall of the Safeway 283 00:31:36,060 --> 00:31:42,420 Building, and it runs through that alley all the way out to 12th, so that entire chunk 284 00:31:42,420 --> 00:31:42,780 of land. 285 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:49,440 And right now, currently, the Magic Circle has a 99-year lease with VOA, but when they 286 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:53,060 were doing their last capital project, that's when this first rose up, and that's when 287 00:31:53,060 --> 00:31:56,520 we first started floating ideas on some of the ways we could help them out. 288 00:31:56,520 --> 00:32:04,860 and I being a longtime Magic Circle participant I think this is absolutely 289 00:32:04,860 --> 00:32:11,420 the best idea it gives us all an opportunity to advance the community in 290 00:32:11,420 --> 00:32:16,740 Montrose so I think it's a great idea and I really support it. I think it's a 291 00:32:16,740 --> 00:32:22,080 good idea too based on the fact that we have an aging community here in 292 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:32,280 and that development out in that area I'm speaking for myself. I don't know I think 293 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:38,580 that it's a good opportunity for the city to contribute to the community in a 294 00:32:38,580 --> 00:32:46,190 sense that we're helping and I support too. The long-time plan then is that 295 00:32:46,190 --> 00:32:51,390 they magic circle will end up buying that land from the city. Correct which 296 00:32:51,390 --> 00:32:55,990 which would allow them to really do a plan for the next 50 years of growth plan, that 297 00:32:55,990 --> 00:32:56,310 kind of thing. 298 00:32:56,410 --> 00:33:01,950 So this is not something that's going to happen tomorrow, but it's going to happen in 50 years, 299 00:33:02,530 --> 00:33:04,310 that they end up buying the land? 300 00:33:04,790 --> 00:33:10,130 No, I think the timeline is by summer of 26. 301 00:33:10,470 --> 00:33:15,650 All of this would be transferred at the very latest, and then people can start moving 302 00:33:15,650 --> 00:33:16,970 forward on their various projects. 303 00:33:16,970 --> 00:33:24,430 All the discussions with VOA is it's they want to get their new facility opened up and then see you know capacity and that kind of thing 304 00:33:24,430 --> 00:33:27,290 So for them, it's probably a little longer out on the horizon 305 00:33:27,290 --> 00:33:32,290 But for Magic Circle, they are ready to start taking action 306 00:33:32,290 --> 00:33:38,290 I think they were unable to do or start a land purchase capital project capital campaign 307 00:33:38,850 --> 00:33:41,610 Because at that point VOA did not want to sell it 308 00:33:42,530 --> 00:33:48,510 VOA was very happy with the lease they had, VOA had no reason to get rid of, divest itself 309 00:33:48,510 --> 00:33:49,210 of that land. 310 00:33:50,110 --> 00:33:57,150 And so because of that magic circle was unable to even start a conversation on doing capital 311 00:33:57,150 --> 00:33:59,650 campaign to purchase anything because there wasn't anything to purchase. 312 00:34:00,410 --> 00:34:07,690 So now that this gives them the flexibility, magic circle is a pretty driven group and 313 00:34:07,690 --> 00:34:14,190 they are pretty dynamic and their director Lisa Rettiger is very involved their board is very 314 00:34:14,190 --> 00:34:19,510 involved I think their capital campaign will move a lot faster than we think it will I've got a 315 00:34:19,510 --> 00:34:27,570 lot of confidence on that so very good good any other questions or comments all right moving 316 00:34:27,570 --> 00:34:34,290 on to our next item the child care facility project authorization and public works director 317 00:34:34,290 --> 00:34:35,310 Dr. Jim Scheidt. 318 00:34:35,830 --> 00:34:36,930 Good morning, Council. 319 00:34:37,870 --> 00:34:41,070 So yeah, we are here to discuss the authorization 320 00:34:41,750 --> 00:34:44,770 for a child care facility, which is 321 00:34:44,770 --> 00:34:47,350 a renovation of an existing city-owned facility 322 00:34:47,350 --> 00:34:48,930 on South 9th Street. 323 00:34:50,650 --> 00:34:53,310 We've been working with a design team Blythe group 324 00:34:53,310 --> 00:34:56,570 to design this renovation, basically 325 00:34:56,570 --> 00:35:00,130 to accommodate up to 50 students or kiddos 326 00:35:00,130 --> 00:35:02,290 in this child care facility of different age groups, 327 00:35:02,390 --> 00:35:02,690 of course. 328 00:35:02,690 --> 00:35:09,670 course. And that design was completed this summer. We've issued that design for construction 329 00:35:09,670 --> 00:35:15,770 through an RFP process, which we did receive five proposals for, which is really a good 330 00:35:15,770 --> 00:35:20,970 sign actually. We had a very large turnout in our pre-bid meetings and our bid openings, 331 00:35:21,490 --> 00:35:26,250 which is a really good sign. We had a lot of contractor participation in this and received 332 00:35:26,250 --> 00:35:33,810 five very well qualified proposals which we evaluated on several things from 333 00:35:33,810 --> 00:35:37,790 qualifications to price to experience with the city things like that so it was 334 00:35:37,790 --> 00:35:46,450 an RFP and not just a bid and we after scoring each of these striker and 335 00:35:46,450 --> 00:35:51,630 company is the one that came to the top of the list in both price and in 336 00:35:52,930 --> 00:35:57,610 qualifications and participation in the project, so really feel like they kind of rose to the 337 00:35:57,610 --> 00:36:02,470 top as far as our options on contractors, and that's why we're suggesting awarding 338 00:36:02,470 --> 00:36:05,690 a contract to Striker as part of this overall authorization. 339 00:36:06,610 --> 00:36:07,710 So I guess I'm going to go back to that. 340 00:36:07,790 --> 00:36:13,770 The overall authorization of this is 850,530 of that is for the Striker and Company 341 00:36:14,250 --> 00:36:17,110 contract amount that we would be awarding of that. 342 00:36:17,110 --> 00:36:24,670 that. The remaining amounts of that are for a big portion is for owner expenses and those 343 00:36:24,670 --> 00:36:29,470 are for direct purchases that we would make that don't make sense to go through a contractor 344 00:36:29,470 --> 00:36:36,310 like furniture, kitchen equipment, some playground equipment, that sort of thing is we're much 345 00:36:36,310 --> 00:36:39,630 better off to purchase directly. We can get better pricing and we don't need it to 346 00:36:39,630 --> 00:36:45,470 go through a general contractor. So on the financial impact part of the packet it 347 00:36:45,470 --> 00:36:50,990 It has a breakdown of the different expenses, and the owner expenses is those things, furniture 348 00:36:50,990 --> 00:36:57,110 being a big piece of that, cameras, window coverings, that sort of thing is all included 349 00:36:57,110 --> 00:36:58,230 within that owner expense. 350 00:36:59,570 --> 00:37:04,310 Design consultants, that is our design team, obviously that a lot of the design itself 351 00:37:04,310 --> 00:37:08,670 is completed, but they participate throughout the construction process as a construction 352 00:37:08,670 --> 00:37:15,810 administration and that's very typical for all of our construction projects and 353 00:37:15,810 --> 00:37:19,570 then of course we did include a contingency in this is about 10% of the 354 00:37:20,630 --> 00:37:25,770 construction costs which I highly recommend this is an existing facility 355 00:37:25,770 --> 00:37:30,030 we're renovating so we've done our due diligence and investigating but there's 356 00:37:30,030 --> 00:37:33,910 always those things that come up and so we do recommend including that 357 00:37:33,910 --> 00:37:37,970 contingency in there in hopes that we don't need it but that it's there 358 00:37:37,970 --> 00:37:42,730 case. So with that it's pretty exciting project looking to keep moving this 359 00:37:42,730 --> 00:37:48,790 forward. Jace has been very involved in this as well and would be bringing more 360 00:37:48,790 --> 00:37:51,990 of the operational side of it and how we intend to do that at future meetings. So 361 00:37:51,990 --> 00:37:55,090 that's coming up I think in the next month or so we'll be bringing that to 362 00:37:55,090 --> 00:37:58,750 a work session and discussing that side of it. This is mostly focused on 363 00:37:58,750 --> 00:38:02,670 that construction side of it and getting that project rolling. Knowing 364 00:38:02,670 --> 00:38:08,570 that starting now would lead us into spring time of next year looking at 365 00:38:08,570 --> 00:38:13,090 completing construction by end of February and then that obviously makes 366 00:38:13,090 --> 00:38:16,330 the facility available to then open up soon after that and that's where that's 367 00:38:16,330 --> 00:38:19,990 where Jace comes in and and could talk more about timing of opening the 368 00:38:19,990 --> 00:38:23,650 facility but trying to get going on the construction process now so that we 369 00:38:23,650 --> 00:38:29,290 are completed with that the goal being end of February. So with that I'd be 370 00:38:29,290 --> 00:38:32,650 happy to answer any questions you may have. Not really a question just to 371 00:38:32,650 --> 00:38:36,350 comment I think this is great this has been in the works for what two years now 372 00:38:36,350 --> 00:38:43,670 and finally come into fruition so good job thanks. Yeah thank you. I have another 373 00:38:43,670 --> 00:38:50,070 comment here. I am a little concerned about the price but it's a something for 374 00:38:50,070 --> 00:38:55,490 community service for the community for babysitting which is sort of lacking in 375 00:38:55,490 --> 00:39:08,690 the community. But I do have a little hesitation based on the fact that I haven't yet seen any 376 00:39:08,690 --> 00:39:17,370 development plans. I haven't seen any plans at all. I have no idea what we're giving the 377 00:39:17,370 --> 00:39:26,970 community. Are we giving them buildings? Are we removing part of the building? Are we 378 00:39:26,970 --> 00:39:32,330 be a little more open on how we're going to be spending some of these funds I believe 379 00:39:32,330 --> 00:39:38,250 through that we approved recently through the hotel and restaurants, some of that funds 380 00:39:38,250 --> 00:39:43,870 are supposed to go to this, that it would be a little bit more open if we were to make 381 00:39:43,870 --> 00:39:49,190 a presentation like at the next council meeting or work session where we could see exactly 382 00:39:49,190 --> 00:39:52,590 what the community is getting and what we're giving them for their dollars. 383 00:39:53,410 --> 00:39:53,810 That's it. 384 00:39:54,270 --> 00:39:54,590 Thank you. 385 00:39:55,090 --> 00:40:04,950 And we can do that. We do have design documents for those that explain they get more in the details of what exactly being renovated interior fencing playground that kind of stuff on the exterior. 386 00:40:05,770 --> 00:40:18,050 So we we can and we do have those design documents. It just it's a lot. It does get into quite a bit of detail. It is a relatively small facility, but it's a there's a lot to the project. 387 00:40:19,990 --> 00:40:26,310 Well, $850,000 is a lot of dollars, too, for the square footage. 388 00:40:27,090 --> 00:40:29,350 That I have no idea what the square footage is. 389 00:40:29,890 --> 00:40:31,430 It might be a thousand square foot. 390 00:40:31,650 --> 00:40:32,650 It's about 4,000. 391 00:40:33,050 --> 00:40:34,050 Yeah, 42,000. 392 00:40:34,050 --> 00:40:35,050 You know what I'm saying? 393 00:40:35,650 --> 00:40:36,430 I'm a builder. 394 00:40:36,730 --> 00:40:40,330 So sometimes this is the sort of stuff that gets my attention. 395 00:40:42,730 --> 00:40:47,310 I think this is something I wouldn't mind seeing at our next work session. 396 00:40:47,310 --> 00:40:51,310 just a little bit more fleshing out of what we're looking at and a little bit 397 00:40:51,310 --> 00:40:54,950 more on the design documents just to give us a little bit better idea and like 398 00:40:54,950 --> 00:40:58,910 Mr. Yulbury says make sure that the public understands what we're actually 399 00:40:59,450 --> 00:41:03,410 putting out for bid so they understand just a little bit more. I 400 00:41:03,410 --> 00:41:06,630 could I think that our next work session might be a nice time for that. 401 00:41:06,890 --> 00:41:14,390 Okay. Separate from the authorization of this project or prior to? I think 402 00:41:14,390 --> 00:41:20,210 separate is good. I think that we have a good idea. I trust our documentation process. I 403 00:41:20,210 --> 00:41:26,230 trust our RFP process. I trust our staff. You guys aren't going to try to slide something 404 00:41:26,230 --> 00:41:31,050 by us. But just for future illumination and future clarification, it might be nice 405 00:41:31,050 --> 00:41:35,390 to have a little bit more of that documentation. I don't think we need to tie it specifically 406 00:41:35,390 --> 00:41:38,530 to this authorization, in my opinion. 407 00:41:39,830 --> 00:41:44,870 Well, I was just thinking of the next regular meeting so we could do the work session prior 408 00:41:44,870 --> 00:41:51,590 to that one with more of that, and that would give Jason and I time to talk more about that 409 00:41:51,590 --> 00:41:54,090 operations agreement where we're at on that one. 410 00:41:54,210 --> 00:41:58,450 Yeah, so we would be seeing this a little bit the morning or the day before our next 411 00:41:58,450 --> 00:41:58,730 meeting. 412 00:41:59,410 --> 00:42:00,470 As a separate item. 413 00:42:00,570 --> 00:42:01,430 As a separate item. 414 00:42:01,710 --> 00:42:01,830 Okay. 415 00:42:03,670 --> 00:42:05,070 Any other comments or questions? 416 00:42:05,590 --> 00:42:06,370 Yes, please. 417 00:42:06,370 --> 00:42:08,890 communities. Our community knows that. 418 00:42:09,110 --> 00:42:11,830 That building has been used for years by the school district. 419 00:42:13,630 --> 00:42:16,050 I've actually talked to him. Okay, so. 420 00:42:17,450 --> 00:42:21,330 Can we address the fact that that was not owned by the school district? 421 00:42:21,690 --> 00:42:23,210 We're not buying it from them. 422 00:42:23,930 --> 00:42:27,870 Correct. Yep, it is owned by the city. It has been owned by the city. 423 00:42:28,970 --> 00:42:31,810 And the school district has been using it through a lease, 424 00:42:31,810 --> 00:42:35,650 but it has been sitting on since it was built. 425 00:42:36,990 --> 00:42:39,090 And that was one of the components. 426 00:42:39,290 --> 00:42:40,910 I won't say to delay necessarily, 427 00:42:41,230 --> 00:42:43,450 but we wanted to be good partners with them, 428 00:42:43,630 --> 00:42:46,350 let them kind of run through their programming and their lease. 429 00:42:46,870 --> 00:42:50,590 So then as we were kind of tackling the design and other concepts, 430 00:42:50,970 --> 00:42:53,130 so timing all worked out pretty well actually. 431 00:42:53,310 --> 00:42:55,410 I know it feels like it's been a minute, 432 00:42:55,610 --> 00:42:56,870 but to get all partners on board 433 00:42:56,870 --> 00:42:59,630 to kind of figure out process, procedure, operations, 434 00:43:00,310 --> 00:43:01,550 I think we're in a pretty good spot. 435 00:43:01,550 --> 00:43:02,810 And I'm happy to speak to that. 436 00:43:03,230 --> 00:43:05,550 Even some of those components of the classrooms 437 00:43:05,550 --> 00:43:08,350 and the number of students or kiddos per classroom 438 00:43:08,350 --> 00:43:10,770 at that next work session meeting as well. 439 00:43:11,650 --> 00:43:13,250 Yeah, I think giving you two weeks gives you time 440 00:43:13,250 --> 00:43:15,390 to really kind of compile the documents 441 00:43:15,390 --> 00:43:18,950 so we don't need to see what kind of finish 442 00:43:19,330 --> 00:43:20,570 on the bathroom door. 443 00:43:21,150 --> 00:43:24,170 But all of those actual relevant documentations. 444 00:43:25,270 --> 00:43:25,790 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 445 00:43:26,070 --> 00:43:27,330 High level design review. 446 00:43:27,750 --> 00:43:28,790 Yeah, that'd be great. 447 00:43:29,070 --> 00:43:29,170 Yep. 448 00:43:29,430 --> 00:43:29,730 Awesome. 449 00:43:29,730 --> 00:43:31,490 Any other questions or comments? 450 00:43:32,930 --> 00:43:35,590 All right, moving on, General City Council discussion. 451 00:43:37,570 --> 00:43:41,050 I wanted to kind of discuss our upcoming ballot issue, really 452 00:43:41,050 --> 00:43:45,370 very, very briefly, that we've had certain concerns raised 453 00:43:46,130 --> 00:43:49,670 that people are already misunderstanding 454 00:43:50,370 --> 00:43:51,790 what we're trying to do. 455 00:43:52,410 --> 00:43:54,330 I had one person that said, oh, the city's 456 00:43:54,330 --> 00:43:55,490 trying to become a home rural city. 457 00:43:55,630 --> 00:43:58,450 He's like, we've been in a home rural city since 1941. 458 00:44:00,070 --> 00:44:05,110 not trying to become anything and it might be nice for us to come up with an 459 00:44:05,110 --> 00:44:10,850 opportunity for a more educational format about what we're doing and why what 460 00:44:10,850 --> 00:44:14,690 we're actually changing I know we have the red line we have the all of the 461 00:44:14,690 --> 00:44:19,710 documentation currently in place but I think just public education sessions 462 00:44:19,710 --> 00:44:23,790 might be beneficial for us to make sure that the public really understands what 463 00:44:23,790 --> 00:44:31,750 we're actually doing and why has it it's officially been placed on the ballot 464 00:44:31,750 --> 00:44:36,070 correct so we have to follow the specific rules on advertising the 465 00:44:36,070 --> 00:44:43,290 initiative correct so I and this is questioning for Lisa and Chris and 466 00:44:43,290 --> 00:44:49,390 everybody in the room if we're allowed to do it I would love us to hold open 467 00:44:49,390 --> 00:44:55,110 houses, a couple of them, talking about what changes and put them up in kind of an interactive 468 00:44:55,110 --> 00:44:59,830 format where people can, you can have them on display boards and people can ask about 469 00:44:59,830 --> 00:44:59,970 the. 470 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,120 Any other issues in the why behind it? We would love to do that. I just want to make 471 00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:08,640 sure we're in compliance with any of the law. We don't want to violate state law in order 472 00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:15,300 to do something. Obviously not, but I mean if it's, I believe 473 00:45:15,300 --> 00:45:23,260 that was done in past on some of the earlier city charter changes, community meeting. 474 00:45:23,260 --> 00:45:32,560 But if we're not deferred to our attorney, but it seems to me that if we're not promoting anything, 475 00:45:32,780 --> 00:45:40,820 if it's purely informational in nature and not advocating one way or the other, we should be all right. 476 00:45:41,060 --> 00:45:43,100 I would like us to flesh that out. 477 00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:49,660 I would like us to make sure that we do have, following all of the legal requirements and restrictions, 478 00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:56,780 I don't want us to step outside our bounds and cause issues, but I would, if there is 479 00:45:56,780 --> 00:46:02,100 an opportunity for us to do some open houses and public information sessions, let's try 480 00:46:02,100 --> 00:46:03,160 to see what we can do on that. 481 00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:04,820 I think that would be beneficial. 482 00:46:05,720 --> 00:46:11,320 It'll give our clarity to some of our citizens, because when I saw that one question and 483 00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:19,640 it's like that they thought we were trying to become a home rule city, Montrose was 484 00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:20,380 in Colorado. 485 00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:21,060 In Colorado. 486 00:46:21,660 --> 00:46:27,480 So it's not like we're trying to change that, but that misconception on what we're trying 487 00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:34,440 to do, I would love for us to look into whether or not we can actually hold some sort of open 488 00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:41,540 house, some sort of public information sessions, keeping clear of the advertising or advocating. 489 00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:48,980 Well, not to mention the fact that some of the changes are actually required by Colorado 490 00:46:48,980 --> 00:46:54,220 out of state law if I'm not mistaken by new legislation that's come down from the state 491 00:46:54,220 --> 00:46:54,620 house. 492 00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:55,380 That is correct. 493 00:46:56,780 --> 00:47:03,240 Sometimes as a community, we do have to comply with those new regulations and laws, whether 494 00:47:03,240 --> 00:47:04,140 we like them or not. 495 00:47:04,540 --> 00:47:11,340 And I've even been approached on the municipal judge issue and why don't we, why do we 496 00:47:11,340 --> 00:47:14,000 want to get rid of the requirement that they be a resident? 497 00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:19,740 Well, we understand and know, but we probably need to explain it to the public that it's 498 00:47:19,740 --> 00:47:20,520 very difficult. 499 00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:24,680 And I would just say we did explain it to the public during the open public work sessions. 500 00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:27,480 So this is all then discussed publicly. 501 00:47:28,700 --> 00:47:32,020 Anybody could go watch that, but we would love to do extra open houses. 502 00:47:32,580 --> 00:47:33,420 I think it would be good to do one point. 503 00:47:33,420 --> 00:47:37,480 I think we've got the head nod on that one, and we'll talk about it internally and 504 00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:41,780 we'll advertise as much as we're allowed to do. 505 00:47:41,780 --> 00:47:46,400 back and keep in touch with us about whether we can even do that so that when somebody 506 00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:52,720 says why aren't you doing so-and-so and such that we can say this is the realities of it. 507 00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:59,340 Not only that, but I think that not all the most qualified individuals live in the city 508 00:47:59,340 --> 00:48:00,280 of Montrebs. 509 00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:02,340 Oh, for the judgeship, that's very true. 510 00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:04,720 We were very lucky this time. 511 00:48:05,660 --> 00:48:06,180 Very lucky. 512 00:48:06,780 --> 00:48:07,160 All right. 513 00:48:07,460 --> 00:48:07,920 Moving on. 514 00:48:08,020 --> 00:48:11,020 Are there any other general city council comments or discussions? 515 00:48:11,020 --> 00:48:17,900 Yeah, I just like Dave Breeze and I were at the water board meeting of the night 516 00:48:19,300 --> 00:48:22,020 Blue Mesa is down to 57% 517 00:48:23,300 --> 00:48:29,180 Taylor reservoir is down to 68% and that's where we get most of our shares are located 518 00:48:30,380 --> 00:48:35,940 Ridgeways down to 72% and silverjack is about 36% 519 00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:43,700 There was a little bit of negative discussion at the last meeting with some people not understanding 520 00:48:44,300 --> 00:48:49,340 our water needs and think that we don't need a second facility. 521 00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:56,440 But I think the recent fire we just had is a pretty good example of what could happen. 522 00:48:59,270 --> 00:49:03,610 They keep two-week water supply in the reservoir directly above the plant. 523 00:49:04,690 --> 00:49:12,850 So, if we had a serious problem with the tunnel, it would be detrimental probably 524 00:49:12,850 --> 00:49:15,570 within a few weeks, short two or three week time period. 525 00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:20,580 Any other comments? 526 00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:24,480 Any staff comments or reports for us? 527 00:49:26,180 --> 00:49:31,420 And everybody's looking away, looking down, and trying not to make eye contact. 528 00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:32,820 So, we're going to go ahead and say we're done. 529 00:49:32,980 --> 00:49:33,500 Thank you guys. 530 00:49:34,340 --> 00:49:34,840 We're adjourned.