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Good evening. This is the regular city council meeting for Tuesday, September 1st, 2026. If you'll please rise and join me in the pledge.

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Can I have a roll call by the clerk, please? Michael Barriacco here, Ed Yuleberry, Dave Frank,

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Jay David Reed, Adam Wooden, all city councillors are present. Excellent. Mayor Pro Tem, any changes to the agenda?

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at

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this time is a call for public comment on non-agenda items. At this time, when concerned

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members of the community may publicly voice their concerns and discuss items of interest,

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please note that no formal action will be taken on the matters raised during this time.

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Comments made during this time should be addressed to the Council and pertain to matters

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at least of general importance to the city and its operations.

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Please be aware that neither the city council nor the city staff are expected to respond

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or engage in discussion or debate.

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Please refrain from any personal attacks and disagreements, personnel and employment matters,

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and use of profanity or ethnic, racial or gender-oriented slurs as they may be considered disorderly conduct,

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which violates state or local law.

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Please introduce yourself, and the city clerk will let you know when you hit 30 seconds,

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and then let you know also when your time is up due to just technical limitations.

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Thank you, that sounds good.

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Beth McCorkle and Montrose, good evening, Mayor and Council.

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Council.

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What happened on the August 26 meeting was deeply troubling.

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Not because of any uncovered issues about the April election, but because of how the

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mayor and Chancellor Yuleberry treated the professional staff who served the city.

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The mayor pushed to exclude the city council or the city mayor and other staff members from

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the discussion involving their own work and conduct.

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Chancellor Yuleberry challenged the city attorney as he attempted to explain his legal and ethical responsibilities.

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The meaning became combative, disrespectful, and frankly, embarrassing.

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Our city employees should never be placed in a position where they must defend their basic rights, integrity, and professional responsibilities against the very elected officials they serve.

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The mayor demanded an independent investigation based largely upon the series of articles written

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by David White.

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Yet after an executive session, the council acknowledged that the April elective section

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was conductive properly and the results were accurate and there would be no investigation.

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In other words, after all the accusations, distrust and turmoil, no evidence was identified

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showing the election results were compromised.

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The mayor later said the resolution was necessary so that it would not rip this community apart.

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But the community did not create this controversy, staff did not create it.

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The mayor and those who promoted the unsupported suspicious suspicions created it.

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The mayor has turned a minor issue resolved,

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concerned into a full-blown controversy to justify the changes Montrose neither needs

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nor requests, while unfairly casting doubt on the integrity and reputation of our dedicated

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service employees, city employees.

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Even after agreeing to the election was sound, the mayor continues to suggest that something

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might still quote unquote pop up that does not restore public confidence.

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It keeps suspicions alive without evidence and leaves our employees defending themselves

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against an accusation that is never fully stated and therefore can never be fully answered.

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If the election process can be improved, then review it through normal transparent process.

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Ask questions respectfully, listen to professionals, identify specific concerns and propose specific

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solutions, but do not use speculation, inflammatory articles, or public confrontation to manufacture a crisis and then claim credit for resolving it.

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Mayor Mike and Chancellor Yuleberry, UO manager, city manager Bill Bell, city attorney Chris Dowsie, city clerk Lisa de Piccolo, and other employees involved a public apology on how they retreated.

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Leadership is not demonstrated by creating conflict.

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Leadership means lowering our temperature.

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I'm sorry, your time is up.

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Okay, I apologize.

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Montrose deserves better from its elected officials.

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My name is Cliff Farr, I live here in Montrose.

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Thanks for the new roundabout.

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Ed Oak Grove in Rio Grande.

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It's beautiful.

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Done early.

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Thanks very much.

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Our city posted a statement yesterday that all five of you agreed to regarding our 2026

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general municipal election. Part of the statement included the following. The city clerk,

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the city's chief election officer administered the 2026 general municipal election with rigorous

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neutrality to ensure a fair, unbiased and accurate outcome. The city council is confident in

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the accuracy of the final election results. Thank you, Mr. Piccolo. I expected nothing less

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from you and your colleagues. Well done. Let's review what led you to put out that statement.

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In the August 10th Mayor David White wrote, the facts are the facts. The 2026 mantra was municipal

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election was compromised. City leadership was steering the proverbial ship, i.e. the election.

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In some respects, what Tina Peters, former Mesa County clerk and recorder did and went to prison

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and for is child's play, compared to the documented election interference

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voiced upon us by our city leadership and investigation by powers higher

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than them is in order. In his August 17th writing, he quotes Russian dictator

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Joseph Stalin. I consider it completely unimportant who in the party will vote

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or how, but what is extraordinarily important is this. Who will count the

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votes and how. Mr. White says one is inclined to give credence to this quote as it seems

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to describe what has been happening in local municipal elections in Montrose for a number

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of years. And in his third writing of August 24th, David White stated, this municipal election

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was spoiled and violations of state law were made. There's more vitriol on various topics from

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Several writers in the August 31st mirror about the 2026 election, 9-11, Socialists, Communists,

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no Kings rallies, something about the King, Queen, and Joker, the inmates in charge of

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the asylum, and a surprising part four of David White's disinformation campaign.

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You were baited by this vitriol.

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You took action based on David White's disinformation.

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You, Councilman Wooden, Councilman Yuleberry, and Mayor Badiaco, the elected representatives

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for all the residents of Montrose attempted, without evidence but on hearsay, to start

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an independent third party investigation into a 2026 Montrose Municipal Election.

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But you didn't, once you heard the facts.

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You've earned a bit of trust with that statement you posted yesterday that all five of you

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agree to. Thank you, but it's not enough. We want to trust that you will honestly

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represent the concerns of all the residents of Montrose. Thank you. So we will

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continue to participate in these meetings and hold you accountable. Thank you.

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Holly speaks Montrose. I'm really disappointed by the lack of transparency and

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the lack of integrity shown by you guys. The Montrose City Council by the

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Montrose City staff and by the Montrose County Elections Office. Please make

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make sure that there are no personal attacks in this.

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For months now almost all of you have known what on the Dias have known what happened on

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the Elebral Election night and you've kept it from the voters.

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Members of Montrose. We kept asking you why they're rushed for these charter amendments. We kept asking you why do you want to move control of the city elections to the county? And in August 3rd, Mr. Wooden and Ms. Dopiccolo let the public in on what the rest of you already knew. She didn't have faith in the impartiality of the people who work at the county elections office. Could she mean Ms. Terry Stradley who's sitting in the back right now who works in the elections office at the Montrose County clerk's office and is good friends with councilman Wooden's wife who's sitting over here tonight.

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And now you don't want to investigate in an election that you won.

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Why? Why the sudden abrupt change? Are you afraid to what we might find out?

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It appears you're only using it as a convenient example to further your own agenda.

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Not to do what's right for the voters of Montrose.

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You know, those constituents, those pesky constituents, us, the people you're supposed to serve.

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President Trump has been pushing his big light to undermine the elections in November.

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He's desperately trying to block free and fair elections, democratic elections.

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He's going to end mail-in voting, target voter registration drives, and block vote counting.

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Just to name a few things.

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The way the city of Montrose, the county of Montrose, have conducted themselves so far regarding

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the April 2026 election is disgraceful.

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You all have shown a lack of integrity.

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You as the elected leaders and the city staff have failed the integrity test with a big fat

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F, you chose comfort over courage.

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You should have told the voters by at least May of this year, one month after your election

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what happened.

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You should have told us that you were there that night of the election.

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You should have told us that David White was there.

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You should have told us that your wife and you were sitting out in the hallway.

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Instead, you allowed David White to tell our community what happened.

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A trusted, not trusted, member of our community.

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You chose not what was right, which was to be transparent with all voters.

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You didn't choose the practice to practice the values that we ask of you, honesty.

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You are teaching the citizens about it.

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It's your not honest.

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You are expecting us to trust you.

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How can we trust you now?

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How can I rely on you now?

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So in conclusion, although my heart's broken, I want to thank you very much.

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I want to thank you very much for alerting me to the possibility that there's a person who works in the elections office who might tamper with the midterm elections.

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Thank you very, very much.

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Please.

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Please.

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Thank you.

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Kim Spangrid, Montrose.

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I just have a quick question.

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I was wondering if you got that information that you were going to give me about your job that you had in 2006,

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where you denied that you were fired and that you denied that the claim was that you were CEO and founder, and I'm not interested in you.

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You said you were going to bring the information, that's all I'm saying.

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I will email that over to you.

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You'll email it, okay.

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I will email it too.

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I'm wondering if you could provide it to the public.

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That's not something that I'm going to provide to the public, no.

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That was from 24 years ago.

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But your campaign ran on the fact that you were a CEO and founder.

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No, it didn't.

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It did not.

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Yeah, it did.

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I did not say that I was a CEO of wireless outputs, but I'm not going to get into that.

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Okay.

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At this point, but thank you.

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Okay.

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And then also I wanted to revisit something that came up on July 29, 2026 at the public comments of that meeting.

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on the audio transcript at 101-50-101-58 on the archived video of that city council meetings public comment period.

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Mr. Wooden told me publicly that he had not communicated with any county official.

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This is not an accusation. He just did tell me that when I asked.

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However, through a core request of emails, I discovered that he had in fact communicated

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with the county clerk, Tresa Guines, on May 7th, 2026 at 8.24 a.m. In that email, he

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wrote, and I am reading this directly, hi, Tresa, I heard that not all of the recent city

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election ballots have been run through the county counting machine.

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I am curious about this, not reading right or wrong, but regarding best practice.

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I wanted some more info before asking Lisa Delpick a little about it.

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Feel free to call myself if that is easier than emailing, he signed it with his phone number.

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I'm not accusing you of lying, I'm only trying to open the door to transparency.

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So I'm just asking, did you realize that you had commented, you had discussed elections with accounting official when I asked you and you said you hadn't, did you later just asking for transparency?

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We all make mistakes.

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30 seconds. I have no idea. I would have to look at that tape and let you know

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it was going through my thoughts. But if you could email me the date, the time,

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and the time so they didn't write that part down. Okay. I can take a look at it.

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Probably not this week, but maybe next week. Thank you so much. I appreciate it. Thank you.

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Thank you.

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I want to make a comment and it's an opinion on a single point. And that

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That is the movement of the time of the elections.

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What I am hearing against it is that it will make it a more partisan election.

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The positives are what it will save us and the positives are the number of people who

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will vote.

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Our current election.

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This is going to be an agenda item.

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Pardon me?

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And this is going to be an agenda item, so if you could wait for the agenda item to come up, appreciate it.

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Thank you.

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It's actually the first agenda item.

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I'm going to talk about process, not personal stuff.

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The, by the way, Lisa has got a handout for you because I'm sorry.

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Well, I'm not going to sit.

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Thank you.

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941, Black Canyon way, Lisa's got a handout for you because what I have to say, what's

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there, take me about five or six minutes and I want to keep the time.

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Comprehensive Plan 2, 008, created high-density lots, creating high-density lots adjacent to

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very low-density lots should be avoided.

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It included two concepts to facilitate that, feathering, which is the gradual transition

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of different residential densities and buffering such as landscaping to help ensure harmony

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between different types of residential developments.

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But they weren't carried over in the current comprehensive plan, and were also eliminated from

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the binding municipal code.

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when combined with a major loophole with the current minor subdivision

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regulations, adjacent land owners are vulnerable to lifestyle and property

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value deterioration. An example is the plan single building 160 unit hub

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apartments substituted for 500 apartments, the planning commission determined two

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density. However, its density is the same in five times that of adjacent spruce point

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in ten times cobble creeks. By the way, spruce point has the same zoning, but was restricted

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to one fourth of the density that that zoning allows. Where's the equity? I'm actually

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pro-development, but only if the interests of developers and citizens are in reasonable

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balance. The situations I had described are one-sided, so I asked that the council

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considered these corrective actions. Minor subdivision regulation change.

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Minor subdivisions were perhaps appropriate for the city years ago, but

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aren't justified today. Going forward, remove minor subdivisions from the

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municipal code. Alternatively, alternatively, limit minor subdivision size and

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require planning commission and city council approval regardless of size or type.

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Second, reinstate buffering and feathering into the municipal code.

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In addition to do these two consider, the current comprehensive plan doesn't include a comprehensive

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plan 2008 notion that the general public strongly supported growing growth playing its own way.

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Basically what I'm going to say here is low income housing I think deserves it, subsidies, but for profit don't, full profit projects don't.

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Secondly, in vision, I got a whole time left.

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Well, you can read it, but I'm just going to talk about just adhering to the comprehensive plan, even though it's not binding.

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Okay.

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Bob Nicholson, may your bad, I'm really disappointed in your behavior in specific.

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You know, leadership is not demonstrated by creating conflict.

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I saw your piece in the, or I heard your piece in the radio this morning.

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And it's just serving to create more conflict over an issue that's already dead.

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I don't know why you continue to stir the pot.

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I hate to wake you up, but you're back on the wrong horse, and you need to pay attention

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to that.

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This is the time to get off that track.

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Yeah, please do not attack.

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I agree.

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Excuse me.

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Please, personal attacks, please do not.

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That was an impersonal attack.

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It was a recommendation.

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All right.

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All right.

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All right, please, please, please, people, let the gentleman talk.

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Yeah, how about that?

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Maybe we could add 30 seconds to the clock.

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I could finish.

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Okay, since I've been interrupted, I don't really have a whole lot to say,

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except I find this amazingly depressing.

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You can do better than this.

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You have to do better than this.

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And if you don't, it's going to be a serious problem, sir.

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Thank you.

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Please, people please, please,

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good evening, John Brown here.

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A lot of negativity this evening, I'd like to change that a little bit.

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Last public meeting that we had, we had a gentleman that resided up on Miami, he said that

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But the traffic that was going by was making so much noise and being so fast that he doubted

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that those residents on the north side of Miami were being disturbed.

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But I'm happy to see that the city has installed a speed indicator on Miami.

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That's very, very good.

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That's the quickest action I think of a very seeing the city come through and accomplish.

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The other thing I would like to bring up is that September 11th, which is going to be the 25th

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year of the World Trade Center. It's called Patriots Day. It is a day that we, as one nation,

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stood up together and against an enemy that attacked this country. And on that day,

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There's going to be a flag rally down at Townsend in Maine at the park down there.

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And then we're going to have a moment of silence at 6.46 a.m. when the north tower was

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struck by flight 11 at 703 when the south tower was struck by flight 175 at 7.37 when the

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Pentagon was struck by flight 77 in 803 when the flight 93 was brought down by

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the occupants of the airplane trying to fight this suppression that was coming

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on. Please come help us to remember help us to celebrate our country. This

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will not be a time as so many people here are concerned about to be

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partisan, but to be Americans. Bring your American flag only and support America on this

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particular day. This is almost as great as we celebrate 250 years of our nation and

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150 years of Colorado. We still have the ability to do things, but we need to stand together

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as one unity because God bless America, God bless the USA.

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Thank you.

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May I say something?

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Mr. Brown.

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Thank you for your comments and for bringing that to our attention.

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I can assure you that as one matter that you and I can agree upon all of the time.

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and I really do appreciate your words and your comments and I do think it's a

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moment for all of us to remember who we are and what we all stand for despite

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our differences so thank you.

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During that, right after that period of time, we in America, we the people,

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We, the residents and citizens of this country stood for something and we stood up and we went

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to fight for it for those beliefs. How quickly, just like the Israelites did after, through

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the book of judges, that they forgot what they were doing. So that's what we've done.

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We need to come back to that beginning.

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Thank you, John.

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John, can I ask a question?

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Is those activities put to some place on the Internet?

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Speak up please.

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I'm having difficulty.

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Are those activities posted on the Internet somewhere so we could all keep track of it?

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I pick the information up from the mirror.

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I'm going to try to put it out as much as I can.

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And I'm sure that Lacey Sanchez, she's the one that has put pretty much put this together

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and that we'll try to get out to as many avenues as we can to let people know.

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Because like I say, this is not, we're all so concerned about partisanship.

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This is not about partisanship.

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This is about America and Americans and citizens of America.

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What about the, welcome home on trust?

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I'm sorry?

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Welcome home Montrose the welcome home alliance. Oh, that's I could yeah

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I need to tell them to I've got to get ahold of Amy with that

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Okay, thank you. Thank you. Thanks Sean

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Jim Anderson Matros. Can you hear me on that? Mm-hmm. I

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Watched the city council meeting last week and to say the least I was

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concerned

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It is my opinion that we have a

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a representative government and there's only five elected representatives.

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Those who work for the city are functional employees.

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They don't run the city.

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They're not accountable to us.

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Make sure that we do not talk about personnel.

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This is not personal, this is all process.

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Our five elected representatives, and we've had a lot of them over the years with various

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backgrounds and opinions and I just like to say if we have truly have a

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representative government we only have five representatives we're not

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elected by we did an elect staff staff does not work for us the county attorney

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does not work for us the city manager does not work for us they were for counsel

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and they're under your guidance and policies and you represent the city as far as

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election goes. I've been involved in elections over the years with both the county and the city,

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and I can tell you that I have very real concerns as to the process of the last election.

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And it is not all right with me just to say, oh, well, that was in the past. We may have some

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Title 31s, we have split votes, we have processes, we don't know who else influenced that election,

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did not inform us that election. So I as one individual in this town have real

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concerns as to the process in the manner of that way that election was handled.

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And we won't know the results. Now from a political Democrat or Republican or

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independent standpoint, but only facts. So I urge you to go forward, look into this and take the

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corrective actions that are necessary so we can again have or I can again have trust

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because having been involved I can tell you I see the possibility of numerous

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evaluations so I am concerned about our government and the voting process and

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how they were tabulated that's not to say anybody did anything wrong but we do

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need to investigate it and take a look at it and again we only have five

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elected representatives you representatives were you're accountable to the

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people and only you the city manager in the county attorney are not accountable to

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the people that are accountable to you. So thank you very much and appreciate all your efforts.

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People are going to have different opinions, but I hope you move forward and remember you're our

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only elected representatives and if we're going to have an elected representative government,

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you're yet. Staff is not yet. Thank you. Thank you.

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At this time do we have a motion to approve the

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minutes of the last two.

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I make a motion to approve the minutes of August 17, 2026.

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Special City Council meeting and the August 18, 2026 regular City Council meeting has presented.

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Second.

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I have a motion and a second please vote.

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Motion passes.

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Next is the ordinance 2727 second reading.

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City Council consideration of ordinance 2727 on the second reading.

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in ordinance of the city of Montrose, Colorado, submitting to a vote of the registered electors of the city of Montrose proposed amendments to the charter of the city of Montrose, Article 1, Section 8, and Article 3, Section 1 and 2 to change the dates of the general municipal election from April of even numbered years to November of even numbered years and setting the ballot question for November 3, 2026.

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I believe that Councillor Frank actually has a comment.

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I just wanted to make, yes, I thank you, Mr. Mayor, and excuse me, Chris.

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Members of the public, I just have some, actually, for me brief comments that I'd like to

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make that prefaces the consideration of the next few agenda items, which are the four

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amendments that are on second reading having passed at the last city council meeting.

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And if voted on and passed tonight will appear on the ballot.

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These are general comments.

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I will not speak tonight to each of the amendments.

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I think it's pretty clear where I stand and why I stand where I stand.

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but I do want to offer these comments primarily for the record of these proceedings and I understand

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that a communication recently went out encouraging members of a political party to attend tonight's meeting

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and characterizing those of us who oppose these charter amendments as part of the liberal left.

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I find that characterization quite unfortunate.

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More importantly, I believe it illustrates one of the concerns that I have expressed throughout this process.

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For those of you who may not know my history, I want served as the chairman of the local Republican Party here in Montrose County.

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Today, I am an unaffiliated voter.

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But neither fact has anything to do with why I oppose these amendments.

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There is nothing liberal or conservative about asking whether a proposed charter amendment

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is necessary.

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There is nothing Republican or Democrat about insisting upon a fair and delivered deep process.

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And there should be nothing partisan, nothing partisan, about serving the citizens of Machos.

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Unfortunately,

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unfortunately, I believe there is a growing effort to inject partisan politics

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into a municipal government that our charter deliberately makes nonpartisan.

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Montrose has a proud tradition of neighbors governing alongside neighbors, not Republicans

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governing Democrats, not conservatives governing liberals, but citizens serving citizens.

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I believe that tradition is worth preserving and protecting.

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We live in a country that is already deeply divided in partisan politics.

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I do not believe we should invite those divisions into our city hall.

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I do not want a mantras where every municipal issue is eventually viewed through a red

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lens or a blue lens.

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I want a mantras where we can disagree vigorously, vote differently, and still recognize that

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the person on the other side of an issue loves this community every bit as much as we all

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So, if these amendments are placed on the ballot tonight, which they will be, the debate

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will move from this council chambers to the citizens of Montrose.

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And I trust them.

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I trust them to look beyond labels.

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I trust them to ask whether these changes are truly necessary.

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I trust them to consider the motivation behind these proposed changes.

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And I trust them to hold the five of us accountable to our obligation to leave Montrose

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stronger, more united, and more worthy of extraordinary of the extraordinary community we have been

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privileged to serve. And I fear that the path that we are about to embark upon is contrary

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to that obligation, and I call upon all of our citizens to let that be known at the ballot box.

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Thank you.

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I'd like to make a comment that's contrary to Mr. Reed's comment about partisan.

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and it

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turned out to be my guess.

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Several people that got up to speak against the charter

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changes to begin with at the very instant

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that they were even initiated.

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Received calls from their particular political party

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to come and speak against this.

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I know for a fact, and I will not mention names,

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because they contacted me and said, we don't want to offend you, but we received

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this call from our local people to come over and protest. So, sir, the partisan

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politics started way before your comment tonight about adding whatever in the

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Facebook. So that's all I can say. Part, partisan politics was already here. Thank

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you.

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Mr. Downsons. Thank you, Council.

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Four Council is a second reading of four potential charter amendments that may be submitted

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to the voters of the city of Montrose. First reading occurred at regular city council meeting

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held on August 18th, where there was a robust discussion. Generally, on second

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readings, I have a much shorter presentation, but due to the importance of

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charter amendments, I again will go through all potential amendments in detail.

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As I did for first reading, I'm going to go do one presentation for all of the

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amendments, but since these are four separate ordinances, we are required to have four separate hearings.

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I will discuss these in two groupings again, so first two were discussed on July 29th at a special meeting held to discuss these and allow for public comment on these items.

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And then they were also discussed at the August 3rd work session.

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If passed one amendment would move the city elections from April of even numbered years to November of even numbered years.

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and the other will establish lifetime term limits of 8 years on council while allowing

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any council member to sit for 8 years consecutively regardless of what seat they possess.

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The second pair of amendments were discussed in open meetings at August 3rd, work session

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August 4th regular meeting. If pass one amendment would give council approval rights of the appointment

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or discharge of the police chief, the second would give the same rights as to the city clerk.

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to the election dates and term limits. There are red lines in the packet showing any changes

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that would be made to the voters. If the voters chose to adopt these amendments, but

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I will go through each change as I have them on the screen. Please know that these had

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to be written in harmony. So if one passes, it still makes sense within the charter. If

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they both pass, again, it makes sense for the charter. So with that, the first potential

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Again, is for moving the election date from April of even

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number years to November of even number years.

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This is going to affect

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Section 8, Article 1, Section 8. This is going to be for clarification. It's really as to any sitting member right now, if in fact this passes, that their four year or two year term is going to be extended for seven months.

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Term of office, this is really just going to be changing the dates of elections, so this would be the year moving from April of the even number years to November of even number years.

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and

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then in section two again this is going to be just changing the month.

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question you will see on the ballot if this passes is shall article one and

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three of the charter of the City of Montrose, Colorado be amended to move the

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general municipal election from April of even numbered years to November of even

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numbered years. A yes vote will in fact change the date of the elections, a no vote,

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So then keeps the elections the same.

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The next potential charter amendment is for term limits.

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So this will be your lifetime term limits as well as it stands right now.

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The at-large seat, the seat with no district, the two year seat.

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They can only have three consecutive terms.

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This would change that so that they could have a fourth consecutive term.

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So any combination of eight years would then be available to any council member.

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So the only addition here in Article 1 is going to be in Section 7 and 8, I believe.

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So Section 8 says notwithstanding the aforementioned, no person shall be eligible to be a candidate

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for the Office of Counselor for the City of Montrose if such person has previously served

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eight years of elected service.

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So with this, as we sit right now, we have two council members that will go beyond eight years.

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Mr. Yuleberry has been on council for 15 years at this point.

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And if this were to pass, and we were to say that no one on council can be on for more than eight years,

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This would effectively have Mr. Yuleberry have to resign from Council.

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00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:31,760
Now just putting it as to the candidates, he does not have to resign.

447
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:37,080
Mr. Reed would hit eight years, I believe, some time either this year or next year, likewise.

448
00:47:37,540 --> 00:47:40,280
So it's written so that they would not have to resign.

449
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:48,060
In terms of office, any council member may be elected to any combination of terms which

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total a years of elected service without a requirement of a waiting period as required

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00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:54,660
by the Colorado Constitution.

452
00:47:55,680 --> 00:48:03,640
This again is for our district list seat, the at-large seat, so that there is not a waiting

453
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:08,020
period for the six-year terms or two-year terms.

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And then vacancies, the addition is going to be no person who has served eight years of

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00:48:14,700 --> 00:48:19,280
elected service in the Office of Counselors shall be eligible to fill a vacancy, whether

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by appointment, or election.

457
00:48:21,820 --> 00:48:28,060
If in fact there is a vacancy for any such reason, if someone has served for eight years, they're

458
00:48:28,060 --> 00:48:29,760
not going to be able to serve again.

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00:48:32,060 --> 00:48:39,920
Moving to elections, term of office, this is going to have a new section added, or not

460
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:44,880
a new section, but a new paragraph, no person shall be elected to serve more than eight years

461
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:47,080
of elected service in that person's lifetime.

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00:48:47,740 --> 00:48:54,780
After November 3, 2026, that is election date, such years in service may occur consecutively

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00:48:54,780 --> 00:48:59,720
through any combination of four or two year terms without a requirement of the waiting

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00:48:59,720 --> 00:49:04,820
period as required by the Colorado Constitution. Appointments through the vacancy procedure as

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defined by the section I just spoke to above shall not be counted for purposes of years

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00:49:12,500 --> 00:49:19,840
elected service. So if there is in fact a vacancy someone is appointed as vacancy those years

467
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:26,920
are not going to count as elected service. Additionally I used elected service if in fact the charter

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00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:32,540
amendment, both of these charter amendments pass, the sitting council members who have

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00:49:32,540 --> 00:49:39,080
the extra seven months, they were elected to four and two year terms. It's only going

470
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:43,520
to be as to that, those extra seven months will not count because they were elected for

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00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:48,660
four and two year terms. They weren't elected for four year and seven month terms or two

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00:49:48,660 --> 00:49:49,780
year and seven month term.

473
00:49:52,190 --> 00:49:55,730
The question, the ballot question you will see if this passes

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00:49:55,730 --> 00:50:17,470
is shall article one and three of the Charter of City of Montrose, Colorado, be amended to restrict council members to serve eight years of elected service in that person's lifetime with such eight years occurring through any combination of consecutive or non consecutive terms of office and shall this requirement apply to any candidate after November 3, 2026.

475
00:50:18,210 --> 00:50:22,850
I'm going to open it to questions on those two. Any questions from any council members?

476
00:50:25,610 --> 00:50:27,490
Perfect. I'll move right along.

477
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:41,620
So the third potential charter amendment would allow for city council to

478
00:50:41,620 --> 00:50:47,400
have approval rights of the appointment or discharge of the police chief. Your red line is right here.

479
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:54,660
So this will state if in fact it passes, the city manager shall be responsible for the

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00:50:54,660 --> 00:50:59,760
appointment and discharge of the police chief subject to the approval of city council.

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00:51:00,300 --> 00:51:04,700
The city manager shall have sole authority and responsibility for the supervision, management,

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00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:09,480
administration and operation of the Montrose Police Department and for the direction and evaluation

483
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:10,620
of the police chief.

484
00:51:11,020 --> 00:51:16,200
The city council's authority under this section shall be expressly limited to approval or

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00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:18,080
or disapproval of the city manager's appointment

486
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:19,720
or discharge of the police chief.

487
00:51:20,100 --> 00:51:22,180
Nothing in this section shall be construed

488
00:51:22,180 --> 00:51:23,440
to authorize the city council

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00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:24,980
or any individual council member

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00:51:24,980 --> 00:51:27,060
to direct supervised manager interfere

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00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:28,540
with the police chief

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00:51:28,540 --> 00:51:30,340
or the day-to-day operations

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00:51:30,340 --> 00:51:32,000
of the Montrose police department.

494
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:35,320
The question that will show up on the ballot

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00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:37,660
if this passes is shall article eight

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00:51:37,660 --> 00:51:39,600
of the charter of the city of Montrose, Colorado,

497
00:51:40,240 --> 00:51:42,200
be amended to allow city council the right

498
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:45,000
to approve or disapprove the city manager's decision

499
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:50,100
to appoint or discharge and discharge the police chief of the Montrose Police Department.

500
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:58,080
Again, a yes vote will give council these approval or denial rights and then a no vote

501
00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:00,120
would keep the charter the same.

502
00:52:05,420 --> 00:52:11,240
This is for the same rights for the city clerk so this would be amended as follows.

503
00:52:11,500 --> 00:52:16,020
The city manager shall be responsible for the appointment and discharge of the city clerk

504
00:52:16,020 --> 00:52:18,380
subject to the approval of the city council.

505
00:52:18,380 --> 00:52:24,060
the city clerk shall be custodian of the city seal. The city manager shall have sole authority and

506
00:52:24,060 --> 00:52:28,400
responsibility for the supervision management administration and operation of the city clerk's

507
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:33,660
office and for the direction and evaluation of the city clerk. The city council's authority under

508
00:52:33,660 --> 00:52:37,900
this section shall be expressly limited to the approval or disapproval of the city manager's

509
00:52:37,900 --> 00:52:42,960
appointment or discharge of the city clerk. Nothing in this section shall be construed to authorize the

510
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:48,120
city council or any individual council member to direct supervised manage or interfere with the

511
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:52,940
city clerk or the day-to-day operations of the city clerk's office. This was

512
00:52:52,940 --> 00:52:57,840
slightly modified from the original version that showed up in the packet of

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00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:05,640
August 18th. It was modified during the meeting and that was the the

514
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:13,620
version that was approved by council so it's still it hasn't been amended

515
00:53:13,620 --> 00:53:19,420
in the ordinance, so it doesn't show as an amended ordinance, it just shows the new

516
00:53:19,420 --> 00:53:20,840
language in the ordinance.

517
00:53:24,190 --> 00:53:29,630
And then the question shall be, shall Article 8 of the Charter of the City of Montrose

518
00:53:29,630 --> 00:53:34,410
Colorado be amended to allow City Council the right to approve or disprove the manager's

519
00:53:34,410 --> 00:53:36,830
decision to appoint and discharge the city clerk?

520
00:53:37,950 --> 00:53:39,350
I will open it to questions from Council.

521
00:53:41,570 --> 00:53:41,750
Okay?

522
00:53:42,770 --> 00:53:50,850
So all I'll state here is again, we will need to open a hearing for each individual ordinance and I leave it to you all.

523
00:53:52,010 --> 00:54:02,450
At this time we will open up for hearing for the voter or for to move the elections.

524
00:54:02,490 --> 00:54:04,270
That's what we'll be talking about now,

525
00:54:06,740 --> 00:54:09,160
accepting public comment on that, excuse me.

526
00:54:12,740 --> 00:54:24,240
I hope each of you will vote yes to adopt ordinance 27-27, changing the city

527
00:54:24,240 --> 00:54:30,460
charter. Aside from a reduction in the cost of the election, there are other

528
00:54:30,460 --> 00:54:37,020
important facts for you to consider. Right now, the county processes federal,

529
00:54:37,020 --> 00:54:44,160
state and county ballots for November elections. The county has cameras in

530
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:51,360
every room where ballots are handled including the counting room but the city

531
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:57,720
has no cameras used for election purposes. The county uses electronic

532
00:54:57,720 --> 00:55:06,120
equipment to tabulate ballots but the city hand counts ballots. The county's

533
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:13,360
Election Judges are barred by partisan teams from the public who are eligible electors.

534
00:55:13,940 --> 00:55:20,680
But the city employs, city employs as election judges and has done so for many elections.

535
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:32,660
The county invites the public to the logic and accuracy testing of the electronic equipment system before an election.

536
00:55:32,660 --> 00:55:38,600
But the people relies on the city relies on people to do the counting.

537
00:55:39,240 --> 00:55:40,500
How do you test them?

538
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:46,680
There are significant differences in how elections can be handled.

539
00:55:47,820 --> 00:55:57,900
Ordinance 2727, if adopted tonight, will give voters in the city of Montrose an opportunity to vote in November

540
00:55:57,900 --> 00:56:01,600
on changing the month of the election from April to November.

541
00:56:02,180 --> 00:56:10,260
In reality, the date change will give the city voters an opportunity to determine who

542
00:56:10,260 --> 00:56:14,700
will handle the elections for the city of Montrose in the future.

543
00:56:15,810 --> 00:56:21,920
If voters in November vote yes to move the date, the Montrose County Elections Office,

544
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:29,440
this office, acting under an intergovernmental agency agreement, will conduct coordinated

545
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:36,360
elections for the city of Montrose in the future. If voters vote no to moving the date,

546
00:56:36,940 --> 00:56:42,440
then the city will remain, the elections will remain with the city clerk in April as

547
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:50,540
it is now. Tonight's vote is about giving the voters a choice. It's about letting the

548
00:56:50,540 --> 00:57:00,320
voters make a decision. This is your first step in letting the voters have a vote. Give

549
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:07,420
us the opportunity and all of you please vote yes to place this ordinance on the November

550
00:57:07,420 --> 00:57:12,980
ballot. I don't know what's going to happen. Maybe all the Huha. You don't know what's

551
00:57:12,980 --> 00:57:18,640
going to happen among all the Huha. The voters should decide. Thank you. Thank you.

552
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:19,540
My

553
00:57:25,820 --> 00:57:29,480
name is Cliff Farr. I live in Montrose. Mayor Badiaco, you need to see

554
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:34,580
synthesis in your use of the City of Montrose Colorado logo logo on your

555
00:57:34,580 --> 00:57:40,020
Mayor's Minute page in the Montrose Mirror. It is at least unethical and likely

556
00:57:40,020 --> 00:57:44,360
illegal for you to use your public office to sanction these amendments that you

557
00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:47,900
yourself have brought forth and are stampeding to get out to the electrode of

558
00:57:47,900 --> 00:57:52,480
Montrose. Mr. Mayor in the August 24th Mayor you sanctioned this proposed

559
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:57,280
was amendment in the mayor's minute by stating moving city elections from April to November

560
00:57:57,280 --> 00:58:04,120
will increase voter participation from 25 to 30 percent up to 60 to 87 percent and that

561
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:09,740
will save up to $25,000 per election. Please provide the sources you use that will

562
00:58:09,740 --> 00:58:15,160
substantiate these claims. While participation may increase by volume if the election is

563
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:20,080
moved from April to November, critics and some researchers point out downsides regarding

564
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:21,520
starting the quality of engagement.

565
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:23,480
Roll-off ballot fatigue.

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00:58:23,940 --> 00:58:25,640
Longfall ballots mean voters must

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00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:28,320
trudge through federal, state, and county races

568
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:30,340
before hitting municipal questions.

569
00:58:30,900 --> 00:58:34,000
This cognitive load causes some voters to randomly gas

570
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:35,800
or leave the bottom of the ballot blank.

571
00:58:36,580 --> 00:58:37,600
Information crowding.

572
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:40,380
In the spring, local issues take center stage

573
00:58:40,380 --> 00:58:41,820
in commuting media and debates.

574
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:45,180
In the fall, local measures are completely drowned out

575
00:58:45,180 --> 00:58:48,140
by multi-million dollar presidential senatorial

576
00:58:48,140 --> 00:58:50,620
or gubernatorial campaigns.

577
00:58:51,300 --> 00:58:53,640
Well, voters actually have enough quality information

578
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:56,660
to make informed decisions on complex municipal issues

579
00:58:57,210 --> 00:58:59,800
when they are buried at the bottom of a massive fall ballot.

580
00:59:00,460 --> 00:59:02,880
What plans have you made to mitigate this risk?

581
00:59:03,220 --> 00:59:05,620
How will you ensure that enough quality information

582
00:59:05,620 --> 00:59:08,400
will be made available to voters

583
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:11,740
so they can make informed decisions on municipal issues?

584
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:14,340
You seem to have another motivation

585
00:59:14,340 --> 00:59:17,060
for pushing our non-partisan municipal elections

586
00:59:17,060 --> 00:59:22,780
to November. You've been quoted as saying, the coordinated elections are different, pointing

587
00:59:22,780 --> 00:59:27,880
out that if this amendment passes, the election process will shift entirely to the county.

588
00:59:28,740 --> 00:59:34,760
Why would the city of Montrose give up responsibility and accountability for municipal elections?

589
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:40,580
That sounds dangerous and irresponsible, especially in light of the David White lead witch hunt,

590
00:59:41,060 --> 00:59:45,740
that you are a party too. A vote for this ordinance will lead to nationalized

591
00:59:45,740 --> 00:59:47,800
and partisan county run elections.

592
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:53,840
A vote against this ordinance will keep our elections and non-partisan and local to our city.

593
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:58,160
Vote no, our local issues deserve non-partisan elections.

594
00:59:58,620 --> 00:59:58,940
Thank you.

595
00:59:59,300 --> 00:59:59,740
Thank you.

596
01:00:08,940 --> 01:00:38,040
Kim Span-Grewd, Montrose. I want to address something that surfaced this week, and this doesn't really address whether I think that the amendments should pass or not, does have to do with the amendments. I want to address that a post from the Montrose County Republican Central Committee urging people to come to this meeting specifically to support what they called a conservative city council members, and framing tonight's agenda.

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01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:52,760
specifically the charter amendments that address ballot measures on police chief and city clerk accountability election timing and term limits as partisan issues where the left quote unquote is resisting quote unquote.

598
01:00:53,280 --> 01:01:03,880
I have a question if I were a nurse practitioner in the health department and you came and you were having a life threatening illness.

599
01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:08,200
would you not want to see me because I'm not a Republican?

600
01:01:15,340 --> 01:01:15,960
And I'm serious.

601
01:01:19,550 --> 01:01:24,190
This body is not a partisan body. Article 3, Section 5 of our own city charter

602
01:01:24,190 --> 01:01:28,470
states plainly all special and general municipal elections for elective

603
01:01:28,470 --> 01:01:31,950
office of the city shall be nonpartisan. That's not my opinion. That's the

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01:01:31,950 --> 01:01:37,650
governing document of this city. That's the legal document. Candidates do not

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01:01:37,650 --> 01:01:41,710
run with the D or an R next to their name. Voters choose them based on their

606
01:01:41,710 --> 01:01:45,510
their judgment, their record, and their vision for this city, not for their party registration.

607
01:01:45,990 --> 01:01:51,170
When 80 group outside this chamber starts assigning party labels to sitting council members and

608
01:01:51,170 --> 01:01:53,950
asking the public to rally behind them on that basis.

609
01:01:54,410 --> 01:01:59,930
It is asking this council to abandon the very structure of our charter that our charter requires.

610
01:02:00,630 --> 01:02:02,170
My point here is simple.

611
01:02:02,870 --> 01:02:11,230
If being labeled conservative as opposed to signal honesty and accountability, why would a council member publicly deny communicating with the county official when

612
01:02:11,230 --> 01:02:14,490
the written record shows otherwise as I spoke earlier.

613
01:02:15,470 --> 01:02:17,990
The non-partisan structure exists for a reason.

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01:02:18,450 --> 01:02:21,230
It was a deliberate choice by the people who wrote our charter

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01:02:21,490 --> 01:02:24,530
to keep local governance potholes, water rates,

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01:02:25,050 --> 01:02:27,250
police oversight, how we run our elections,

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01:02:27,910 --> 01:02:30,110
nurse practitioners in the health department,

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01:02:30,590 --> 01:02:34,210
insulated from the partisan fights that dominate state

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01:02:34,210 --> 01:02:35,530
and federal politics.

620
01:02:36,050 --> 01:02:38,350
When a political party's county committee

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01:02:38,350 --> 01:02:49,250
We start publicly branding, sitting council members as our conservative city council members as framing city business through left versus right that directly contradicts the charter.

622
01:02:49,650 --> 01:02:51,530
This council is sworn to uphold.

623
01:02:52,330 --> 01:02:59,990
How would you feel if a Republican governor changed the name of the Blue Mesa Reservoir to the Red Mesa Reservoir?

624
01:02:59,990 --> 01:03:00,850
come

625
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:14,960
on Michael we got a laugh at that one. That was good.

626
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:18,340
Good evening

627
01:03:18,340 --> 01:03:23,060
Councillors I'm Dave Stockton I live in District 4. Two weeks ago former

628
01:03:23,060 --> 01:03:28,460
Councillors spoke to why elections were moved from November. Per rationale was to

629
01:03:28,460 --> 01:03:33,580
take politics out of the elections and to meet the non-partisan language in the

630
01:03:33,580 --> 01:03:39,620
charter. That changed the place in 1994 and a service city well for nearly three

631
01:03:39,620 --> 01:03:40,420
in a half decades.

632
01:03:42,140 --> 01:03:46,420
Moving municipal elections from April to November may have unforeseen consequences.

633
01:03:47,540 --> 01:03:53,220
Whether it be one ballot or two ballots issued to the electorate, if two, what's the point?

634
01:03:54,340 --> 01:03:59,560
Will those receiving two ballots take the time to fill both out, or will they toss one or

635
01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:04,740
the other resulting in a diminished turnout versus the desired increase in participation

636
01:04:04,740 --> 01:04:05,840
you hope for?

637
01:04:07,240 --> 01:04:13,480
If municipal municipality issues appear on the general election ballot, they now become

638
01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:15,140
part of a coordinated election.

639
01:04:16,140 --> 01:04:20,520
Coordinated elections remove the city clerk from her role as election judge.

640
01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:24,680
Election process now falls entirely on the county clerk.

641
01:04:25,780 --> 01:04:31,580
We lose any oversight on the management of city issues presented to the electorate.

642
01:04:31,580 --> 01:04:37,400
Also has been argued numerous times over the previous months, voters will lose focus

643
01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:40,960
on local issues if bundled with November's general election.

644
01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:43,200
Here's what is at stake.

645
01:04:44,260 --> 01:04:48,960
In November, voters will make a decision regarding who will represent us in the U.S. Senate.

646
01:04:49,740 --> 01:04:53,780
We will make a decision on who represents us in the U.S. House of Representatives.

647
01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:59,440
There will be a valid issue regarding the state, amended in the state constitution.

648
01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:20,660
I ask that you delay any decision regarding moving the date of our elections until the municipal

649
01:05:20,660 --> 01:05:27,040
election in April of 2028. At that time, local voters will be focused on local issues.

650
01:05:28,100 --> 01:05:34,680
City Council, excuse me, will be focused on local issues, City Council candidates and

651
01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:37,280
critical issues such as proposed charter amendments.

652
01:05:38,060 --> 01:05:40,160
Keep it local, Montrose, and vote no.

653
01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:41,260
Thank you.

654
01:05:41,700 --> 01:05:41,960
Thank you.

655
01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:49,060
Holly speaks, Montrose.

656
01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:52,760
I just want to address a couple things.

657
01:05:52,940 --> 01:05:54,340
First thing is decorum.

658
01:05:54,620 --> 01:05:56,200
There's been name calling going on.

659
01:05:56,300 --> 01:05:58,380
It's not been me, but maybe you might want to address that.

660
01:05:59,700 --> 01:06:04,300
I am going to disagree with some people and I think this issue could have been fleshed

661
01:06:04,300 --> 01:06:07,460
out if we would have had the Citizens Commission, but here we are.

662
01:06:09,180 --> 01:06:14,240
Some may know I'm part of Indivisible and no Kings and also that she sure I have on

663
01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:22,440
is part of Common Cause and Common Cause has sued a lot of cities and also individual elected

664
01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:28,660
officials for their poor actions and common cause right now is suing the City of Colorado

665
01:06:28,660 --> 01:06:32,700
Springs to move their elections to November, their municipal elections.

666
01:06:33,620 --> 01:06:40,260
And so I'm going to say tonight that what we believe in is an representative government

667
01:06:40,260 --> 01:06:42,140
of the people by the people and for the people.

668
01:06:42,990 --> 01:06:52,420
So I'm going to keep an open mind and hope that your proposal, if it does pass, does bring

669
01:06:52,420 --> 01:06:56,280
a more diverse electorate into the municipal elections.

670
01:06:57,420 --> 01:07:03,380
I will say that I have concerns and worries about this election, this midterms.

671
01:07:04,100 --> 01:07:09,860
I will say as indivisible, I have worries and concerns that voters will be intimidated.

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01:07:10,540 --> 01:07:16,660
So when I talk about my worries and concerns, they say that this will bring in more black,

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01:07:16,660 --> 01:07:22,400
Hispanic voters, people of color, Asian people, into voting because we have

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01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:27,920
more voter voters in November. Well if they're intimidated to go to the polls

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01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:33,780
because they have the Trump train or Confederate flags across from our county

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01:07:33,780 --> 01:07:38,560
election clerk are they going to be likely to vote? So I think we need some more

677
01:07:38,560 --> 01:07:43,760
data on that this year. So I really do hope that what you're proposing does happen

678
01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:46,060
this year, Mayor. Thank you. Thank you.

679
01:07:51,590 --> 01:07:55,310
Bob Nicholson. Well, I'm having a little bit of

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01:07:56,250 --> 01:08:03,210
trouble with the words coordinated partisan election. It seems like a bit of an oxymoron to me,

681
01:08:03,810 --> 01:08:04,410
Mayor Badiaco.

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01:08:06,710 --> 01:08:15,170
The reality is there is too much stuff in the November election to make it possible

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01:08:15,170 --> 01:08:20,430
for the citizens of the city to really go through all the issues and make

684
01:08:20,430 --> 01:08:26,790
proper choices. I am a firm believer in the kiss principle, which is keep it

685
01:08:26,790 --> 01:08:32,270
simple, stupid. That's and that's not a direct meaning to anybody. It's just the

686
01:08:32,270 --> 01:08:38,970
principle. But the reality is a separate election that is only on city issues

687
01:08:40,010 --> 01:08:45,970
focuses the people's attention on those issues and not on all this partisan nonsense that

688
01:08:45,970 --> 01:08:51,910
we have to vote for and accordinated and again it's an oxymoron to me because I don't

689
01:08:51,910 --> 01:08:59,890
see any coordination between the two parties at all. And so I'm against this and I'd like

690
01:08:59,890 --> 01:09:03,610
to see you folks vote no on it. Thank you. I

691
01:09:12,700 --> 01:09:15,360
apologize for not correctly reading what

692
01:09:15,360 --> 01:09:16,220
What was handed to him?

693
01:09:16,240 --> 01:09:16,640
No worries.

694
01:09:16,860 --> 01:09:17,220
Thank you.

695
01:09:18,600 --> 01:09:20,780
I want to pick up on what Ed said.

696
01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:29,540
He made the point, which I was about to do, that much though we try to keep it nonpartisan

697
01:09:29,540 --> 01:09:36,160
at the moment, if you look at our last few nonpartisan elections, they become very partisan.

698
01:09:36,980 --> 01:09:45,640
And so the argument that putting this election with a partisan election is going to make

699
01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:48,440
it partisan, I think is spacious.

700
01:09:49,420 --> 01:09:55,520
We are partisan, put it together with the rest of it, save us the money, get the votes out,

701
01:09:56,500 --> 01:10:03,860
have the city do what the city needs to do to educate its people, and please make it happen.

702
01:10:03,860 --> 01:10:08,940
But there are people who say that we have a problem with democracy at the moment.

703
01:10:09,860 --> 01:10:12,140
And this is how you do democracy.

704
01:10:13,040 --> 01:10:15,100
You don't do it by having a small group.

705
01:10:15,700 --> 01:10:19,920
You do it by putting it on a election that gets to the most possible people.

706
01:10:20,340 --> 01:10:22,300
I strongly support what you're doing.

707
01:10:23,160 --> 01:10:23,460
Thank you.

708
01:10:28,890 --> 01:10:30,650
Leigh of Anderson, loose mantros.

709
01:10:31,970 --> 01:10:34,110
Talk about ballot weariness.

710
01:10:34,110 --> 01:10:40,210
I think the people of Montros aren't real excited about having another ballot in the spring.

711
01:10:41,390 --> 01:10:45,930
And to have it all on one ballot, it makes a lot more sense.

712
01:10:46,230 --> 01:10:48,050
And again, the participation goes up.

713
01:10:48,730 --> 01:10:55,970
I wouldn't discredit Montrosians of being able to not get through the whole ballot because of these issues.

714
01:10:56,390 --> 01:11:01,890
Plus, in the past, we've had library issues on the November ballot and they were nonpartisan.

715
01:11:01,890 --> 01:11:03,970
And so, you know, there's no difference.

716
01:11:04,470 --> 01:11:05,530
So I support this.

717
01:11:05,770 --> 01:11:06,050
Thank you.

718
01:11:11,860 --> 01:11:13,280
John Brown, Montrose.

719
01:11:13,980 --> 01:11:15,760
What an unusual night for me.

720
01:11:16,860 --> 01:11:19,380
Twice now, I've had an opportunity

721
01:11:19,380 --> 01:11:21,720
to agree with Mr. Reed.

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01:11:24,100 --> 01:11:27,140
We have agreed that we're all Americans,

723
01:11:27,180 --> 01:11:30,140
and we should recognize Patriots Day.

724
01:11:31,440 --> 01:11:34,240
But I also agree with Mr. Reed when he says,

725
01:11:35,160 --> 01:11:36,800
let the voters decide.

726
01:11:37,420 --> 01:11:39,440
This is not what this is all about.

727
01:11:40,440 --> 01:11:47,100
We should let the voters decide when we want our elections, when what kind of term limits

728
01:11:47,100 --> 01:11:53,460
we have for the city, because we have term limits everywhere for elected officials.

729
01:11:54,920 --> 01:12:02,940
Given the opportunity to let the people be involved, and I do agree with Mr. Yuleberry when

730
01:12:02,940 --> 01:12:08,160
And he says that this has already been a partisan situation.

731
01:12:08,720 --> 01:12:17,800
Long before it became the election that we had in April, it's always been more one direction

732
01:12:17,800 --> 01:12:18,700
or the other.

733
01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:30,980
And anybody that comes in here who has an opinion, has a belief core, belief in something, can't

734
01:12:30,980 --> 01:12:37,720
tell me that they're not partisan of something. Some people call it Republican, some call it

735
01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:42,300
Democrat, some call it the no kings.

736
01:12:44,360 --> 01:12:48,180
But the bottom line is that we all have core values

737
01:12:48,180 --> 01:12:55,280
that we're bringing into this situation. Some of us have God in our life and that's our

738
01:12:55,280 --> 01:13:04,140
core value and we look into that. That wouldn't make any difference to me concerning any of this

739
01:13:04,820 --> 01:13:11,260
if it wasn't something that I believed in through my core values of my God and letting the

740
01:13:11,260 --> 01:13:20,440
people decide because God did tell us as citizens to go out and be citizens and participate in our

741
01:13:20,440 --> 01:13:29,980
government. That means vote. 5% governing this panel, this board over the last since 94.

742
01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:38,000
With 5% of the population of Montrose saying we want this or we want that. Instead of

743
01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:46,000
allowing 65, 85% to make that decision. Bring it back to the people. And I don't know what

744
01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:56,320
But anybody else is afraid of if you're against the ordinances, then fine, vote your opinion

745
01:13:56,320 --> 01:13:57,480
in November.

746
01:13:58,260 --> 01:14:00,820
If you're in favor of it, vote your opinion.

747
01:14:01,240 --> 01:14:06,920
That's why we're doing this so that we can give the City Council our direction.

748
01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:08,140
Thank you.

749
01:14:08,480 --> 01:14:08,720
Thank you.

750
01:14:14,400 --> 01:14:16,120
Mr. Mayor, Council people.

751
01:14:16,320 --> 01:14:18,180
Thank you for giving me the opportunity to speak.

752
01:14:18,180 --> 01:14:24,700
Janet Eckert, Montreal's native, I just want to make a comment that was said

753
01:14:24,700 --> 01:14:31,540
earlier that you trust the voters. So I trust the voters too. And I just would

754
01:14:31,540 --> 01:14:35,920
encourage you on on four of these amendments to bring it to a vote and let the

755
01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:42,080
voters have their say. And especially on this issue of bringing the voting into

756
01:14:42,080 --> 01:14:47,420
November, I'm a proponent of a bigger pool of voters. More people get to have

757
01:14:47,420 --> 01:14:55,180
input and so especially this first amendment I am in support of because I believe

758
01:14:55,180 --> 01:14:59,600
that we can trust people they will take the time to look over what's on the ballot.

759
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:07,400
And this is a wonderful opportunity that you're giving the citizens to vote on things, and I thank you for it. Thank you.

760
01:15:12,690 --> 01:15:34,530
Aaron Renstrom, here are Monteros. Apologies for the fragmented thoughts that I have. I didn't plan this, prepare it or anything of that nature. Just along the way, I don't know if it was misunderstanding, misrepresentation or misinformation that attending these meetings, watching the online recordings, the cost statements about

761
01:15:34,530 --> 01:15:36,750
it's saving us money to be in November.

762
01:15:37,310 --> 01:15:49,210
There was a prior discussion with Clerk Lisa about there's no true known cost and it changes year to year because of sliding scale and how different components add.

763
01:15:49,690 --> 01:15:56,330
So to know the exact savings is a little difficult for me to reconcile the shift.

764
01:15:56,930 --> 01:16:02,670
I think that the I agree with other statements made that keeping the election in April.

765
01:16:02,670 --> 01:16:11,570
It gives our citizens or local residents to focus on issues and not be blurred lines with

766
01:16:11,570 --> 01:16:20,290
national and state level options, votes, ballot items.

767
01:16:21,590 --> 01:16:27,990
Question when the discussion was, what are the benefits of moving it to November,

768
01:16:30,990 --> 01:16:31,770
Mr.

769
01:16:31,770 --> 01:16:33,490
the election, 31 versus one.

770
01:16:34,250 --> 01:16:35,850
What are those underlying details?

771
01:16:36,290 --> 01:16:37,950
And again, it could be me because I'm not really

772
01:16:37,950 --> 01:16:38,970
big into politics.

773
01:16:39,010 --> 01:16:42,230
Just listen, try to do my part as a citizen.

774
01:16:43,370 --> 01:16:44,550
But what are those differences?

775
01:16:44,910 --> 01:16:48,510
And does it inadvertently cause some of our residents

776
01:16:48,510 --> 01:16:56,270
to not be able to vote comments tonight of fear of showing up

777
01:16:56,270 --> 01:16:59,690
because of a partisan interactions

778
01:17:00,850 --> 01:17:07,870
of the ballot, or is there a limitation of receiving the mail to provide a mail-in ballot?

779
01:17:08,370 --> 01:17:15,910
And I also thought that previously, during our discussions, it was stated that even though the mechanics of who counts what,

780
01:17:16,530 --> 01:17:19,850
the statement may have been made, may have heard it incorrectly,

781
01:17:20,450 --> 01:17:27,230
is that the same people still do the inside whether it's done by the county or by local city.

782
01:17:27,230 --> 01:17:34,210
And I could have totally misunderstood that discussion, but I, too, am with the crowd

783
01:17:34,210 --> 01:17:40,190
and support, keep it, like it was changed in 1994, keep it in April, keep it separate,

784
01:17:40,190 --> 01:17:45,230
let us focus on the important stuff for our city, and keep it separate from the national

785
01:17:45,230 --> 01:17:45,670
problems.

786
01:17:46,310 --> 01:17:46,670
Thank you.

787
01:17:47,110 --> 01:17:47,350
Thank you.

788
01:17:54,240 --> 01:17:55,360
Lacey Sanchez.

789
01:17:56,720 --> 01:18:00,720
I just want to thank each of you for being up here.

790
01:18:00,720 --> 01:18:04,600
you guys had a lot of attacks and that is super unfortunate.

791
01:18:04,900 --> 01:18:07,740
You would think that as a group of grown-ups,

792
01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:12,080
we could act like grown-ups and not like adolescent children,

793
01:18:12,380 --> 01:18:13,640
so I'm sorry for that.

794
01:18:13,800 --> 01:18:17,060
But I want to say I am unashamedly conservative,

795
01:18:17,660 --> 01:18:19,700
a mantra is resident and a proud American.

796
01:18:20,500 --> 01:18:25,940
So when I vote, I most definitely vote for people who have my values

797
01:18:25,940 --> 01:18:27,880
and who share my values.

798
01:18:28,360 --> 01:18:29,500
And I'm not ashamed of that.

799
01:18:29,500 --> 01:18:32,740
That's that's what our country was built on

800
01:18:33,540 --> 01:18:39,200
The the people who voted for you were both conservative and liberals

801
01:18:39,200 --> 01:18:43,400
so and independence and libertarian and all the other

802
01:18:44,280 --> 01:18:49,540
Multiple kinds of voters that are out there. I just want to say when it comes to

803
01:18:50,300 --> 01:18:56,780
My I live here in the city obviously, but my taxpayer dollars. I've got a young family

804
01:18:56,780 --> 01:19:08,080
I know how much because I have done my own investigative work with the county clerk in recorders knowing how much it costs for ballots to go out.

805
01:19:08,600 --> 01:19:17,400
I don't want to fork over that money for another ballot in the spring as well as another ballot for DMEA.

806
01:19:18,100 --> 01:19:23,060
I have multiple ballots that come in my mail every single year.

807
01:19:23,060 --> 01:19:37,860
If we are acting as voters like this is such an inconvenience to have multiple people on the ballot, that is your civic duty.

808
01:19:38,060 --> 01:19:45,000
My goodness gracious, we had people die for this nation so that you could vote who is representing you.

809
01:19:45,480 --> 01:19:46,780
And if you don't like it then don't vote.

810
01:19:47,340 --> 01:19:51,900
And if it takes you an extra five minutes, my goodness, get a drink of water or a sip of coffee.

811
01:19:51,900 --> 01:19:58,860
good gracious sakes like that is just ridiculous but what I would say is it is our

812
01:19:58,860 --> 01:20:05,740
liberty to vote it is our privilege to vote and gosh darn it it is our job to

813
01:20:05,740 --> 01:20:11,880
vote and so putting it all on one ballot and saving me some extra money yes

814
01:20:11,880 --> 01:20:18,280
please thank you that would be fantastic I would appreciate it thank you and

815
01:20:18,280 --> 01:20:19,400
And thank you for your hard work.

816
01:20:19,600 --> 01:20:20,520
I appreciate it.

817
01:20:20,680 --> 01:20:22,280
And I am so sorry for the disrespect

818
01:20:22,280 --> 01:20:23,680
that you get from these people.

819
01:20:33,910 --> 01:20:34,910
Please, thank you.

820
01:20:38,160 --> 01:20:39,940
My name is Norma Marstonic.

821
01:20:41,340 --> 01:20:45,580
And I have two comments in response to previous comments.

822
01:20:46,260 --> 01:20:50,340
So I was coming to a conversation the other day

823
01:20:50,340 --> 01:20:55,940
with a friend about the elections in April.

824
01:20:55,940 --> 01:21:01,440
And she said, what election totally

825
01:21:03,460 --> 01:21:08,940
missed it? She lives in Montrose. So yeah,

826
01:21:09,080 --> 01:21:15,560
November will be, will bring more people to vote. Number two,

827
01:21:18,320 --> 01:21:21,080
also as a response of a comment,

828
01:21:21,080 --> 01:21:30,460
I am Hispanic and nothing will intimidate me to come to vote.

829
01:21:32,680 --> 01:21:34,280
Do we

830
01:21:49,190 --> 01:21:50,110
have a motion?

831
01:21:51,070 --> 01:21:55,810
I make a motion to adopt ordinance 2727 on second reading as presented.

832
01:21:56,550 --> 01:21:56,730
Second.

833
01:21:57,550 --> 01:22:01,950
We have a motion and a second please vote.

834
01:22:50,880 --> 01:22:51,780
Motion passes.

835
01:22:51,780 --> 01:22:53,040
Next

836
01:22:57,560 --> 01:23:20,940
is ordinance 2728, which is, we will open up for public comment at this time for the consideration of motion or of ordinance 2728, which is the moving, excuse me, of the term limits that were discussed earlier.

837
01:23:20,940 --> 01:23:21,840
Cliff

838
01:23:26,990 --> 01:23:32,210
Farr live here in Montrose, Mr. Mayor and the August 24th Mayor, you sanctioned

839
01:23:32,210 --> 01:23:36,330
this proposed amendment in the mayor's minute by stating term limits for City Council

840
01:23:36,330 --> 01:23:41,970
will ensure regular turnover of ideas and prevent the advantages of long and

841
01:23:41,970 --> 01:23:46,870
come and see from limiting other voices. How to term limits ensure the regular

842
01:23:46,870 --> 01:23:52,110
turnover of ideas. Ideas come from people, not term limits. Why would you want

843
01:23:52,110 --> 01:23:57,090
to prevent the advantages of long and come and see. How does having experienced and knowledgeable

844
01:23:57,090 --> 01:24:02,790
citizens serving on the council limit other voices? Don't we have elections where voters choose

845
01:24:02,790 --> 01:24:08,870
who they want to represent them on council? Won't you just elect it in April to serve the residents

846
01:24:08,870 --> 01:24:15,470
of Montrose? You are an other voice and you don't provide the advantages of long and come and see

847
01:24:15,470 --> 01:24:16,490
to your role as mayor.

848
01:24:17,310 --> 01:24:19,610
Did you know that we already have term limits?

849
01:24:20,710 --> 01:24:26,810
The Colorado Constitution sets term limits for City Council members in Article 18, Section

850
01:24:26,810 --> 01:24:27,210
11.

851
01:24:27,890 --> 01:24:33,510
In 2025, last year, the Montreal City Council put proposed charter amendments to the voters

852
01:24:33,930 --> 01:24:35,770
with ordinance 2690.

853
01:24:36,390 --> 01:24:39,650
That effort to modify term limits was rejected by the electorate.

854
01:24:40,250 --> 01:24:44,790
Why are you again trying to modify and restrict the term limit language from the Colorado

855
01:24:44,790 --> 01:24:53,370
the Colorado Constitution. The Colorado Constitution sets an eight-year term limit for district seats and a six-year term limit for the at-large seat.

856
01:24:53,890 --> 01:25:01,130
It allows resetting the term limit clock after four-year hiatus. These term limit rules have served the city of mantra as well.

857
01:25:01,830 --> 01:25:10,370
The proposed 2025 change to the mantra of city charter would have extended the term limit for an at-large seat from six years to eight years.

858
01:25:10,370 --> 01:25:16,330
why? It would have retained the term limits from the Colorado Constitution, but brought that

859
01:25:16,330 --> 01:25:22,430
language into the Montrose City Charter. Why? Those changes were not approved by the Montrose

860
01:25:22,430 --> 01:25:29,410
voters. The proposed 2026 ordinance 2728 amendment two would change the Montrose City Charter

861
01:25:29,410 --> 01:25:35,210
to also extend the term limit for an at-large seat from six years to eight years and at a lifetime

862
01:25:35,210 --> 01:25:40,710
time term limit of eight years. Again, why? What is the logic behind the proposed changes

863
01:25:40,710 --> 01:25:45,770
to the mantra of city charter regarding term limits? Why is the Colorado Constitution

864
01:25:46,410 --> 01:25:52,950
rule regarding term limits not good enough for the residents of Montrose? A vote for will

865
01:25:52,950 --> 01:25:57,950
restrict voter choice. It's trying to fix a non-existent problem as we already have term

866
01:25:57,950 --> 01:26:04,550
limits. A vote against recognizes that we have working limits now. There is no need to fix

867
01:26:04,550 --> 01:26:09,570
a non-existent problem. Vote no and retain the term limits in place today from the Colorado

868
01:26:09,570 --> 01:26:15,670
Constitution, eight-year term limit for district seats, six years for ad-large seat, and allow

869
01:26:15,670 --> 01:26:19,590
resetting the term limit clock after four-year hiatus. Thank you.

870
01:26:20,190 --> 01:26:20,490
Thank you.

871
01:26:26,580 --> 01:26:33,580
The liar, Mr. Yuleberry, I would like to thank you very much for your very, very long service to the city.

872
01:26:34,060 --> 01:26:38,980
I appreciate it greatly. I hope you will vote to vote yourself out of a job.

873
01:26:47,420 --> 01:26:51,560
I just want to say that term limits, limits corruption.

874
01:26:51,900 --> 01:26:54,700
And I don't like the fact that there can be a four-year hiatus

875
01:26:55,460 --> 01:27:01,340
according to the state statute, so I support this.

876
01:27:01,840 --> 01:27:02,140
Thank you.

877
01:27:08,080 --> 01:27:09,460
John Brown, yet again.

878
01:27:12,680 --> 01:27:17,700
Term limits, almost every aspect of our government,

879
01:27:17,700 --> 01:27:24,380
federally, state, county, all have term limits, very strict term limits.

880
01:27:25,220 --> 01:27:28,020
When you're through with your time, your time is up.

881
01:27:28,300 --> 01:27:32,880
You go back to your farm, you farm, you do whatever it is that you normally would do.

882
01:27:33,680 --> 01:27:39,760
In our past, our term limits have been take a four-year hiatus by being a board member

883
01:27:39,760 --> 01:27:44,540
or something like that, someplace else, and then come back in four years and redo everything

884
01:27:44,540 --> 01:27:45,440
that you did before.

885
01:27:46,660 --> 01:27:56,020
Isn't it all about new, even Mr. Frank had mentioned by having somebody in with new ideas?

886
01:27:57,460 --> 01:28:02,760
Mr. Reed, you and I are very gray-haired. We have been around for a lot of years.

887
01:28:03,100 --> 01:28:06,260
And we have seen the same things going over and over and over.

888
01:28:06,540 --> 01:28:10,500
Wouldn't it be nice to have some young ideas come in, some different ideas?

889
01:28:10,500 --> 01:28:22,520
is. And so I can't see restricting term limits by you not having this ballot out there.

890
01:28:23,140 --> 01:28:29,560
Depend on your constituency to believe that they know what's best for our county, I mean

891
01:28:29,560 --> 01:28:35,480
for our city. So if they want to vote for term limits, give them the opportunity. That's what this whole

892
01:28:35,480 --> 01:28:43,120
thing is, we're putting out ballot issues as Mr. Dozy brought up for ballot issues.

893
01:28:44,040 --> 01:28:49,240
And we're voting, you guys are voting on whether it should go forward to the county for

894
01:28:49,240 --> 01:28:52,240
the ballot issue, to be on the ballot.

895
01:28:53,160 --> 01:28:55,520
Why do we object to that?

896
01:28:56,100 --> 01:29:02,720
Are we afraid that the people are going to say, oh no, oh my gosh, we can't do that because

897
01:29:02,720 --> 01:29:04,860
we need to let the people do it.

898
01:29:04,860 --> 01:29:06,040
That's what the whole thing is about.

899
01:29:06,700 --> 01:29:07,600
We, the people.

900
01:29:09,740 --> 01:29:12,660
Thank you, Mr. Brown.

901
01:29:13,740 --> 01:29:14,280
We're on a roll.

902
01:29:14,920 --> 01:29:15,280
I'm sorry?

903
01:29:15,860 --> 01:29:17,520
We're on a roll together tonight.

904
01:29:18,140 --> 01:29:20,020
There's three things that you and I have a great upon.

905
01:29:20,640 --> 01:29:22,280
The two you already talked about.

906
01:29:22,460 --> 01:29:23,660
And the third one is the gray hair.

907
01:29:26,040 --> 01:29:30,840
But part I will disagree with you on is that this is, in my opinion,

908
01:29:31,740 --> 01:29:34,340
creating an issue where no issue exists.

909
01:29:34,340 --> 01:29:51,540
Our city goes back 144 years and four times in our history this has been not an issue but because I don't know that it was a problem, but it has occurred four times in 144 years.

910
01:29:52,080 --> 01:29:59,980
And I suggest that my math tells me that's not a problem that we need to fix and that's where you and I will disagree on that.

911
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:27,820
That one, and I'm sorry we broke our record. Well, I believe that what I have seen in the 20 years I've been here. I haven't seen much change over that 20 years. I've seen the same people sitting behind the same counter and regulating and governing. Rather than bringing in new ideas. And I think that's what we need. Montrose is growing.

912
01:30:27,820 --> 01:30:30,380
We're a growing community.

913
01:30:31,180 --> 01:30:36,900
We need to get people in that have new ideas that are conforming with the new ideas that

914
01:30:36,900 --> 01:30:37,620
are coming about.

915
01:30:38,020 --> 01:30:38,500
Thank you, Mr. Brown.

916
01:30:38,500 --> 01:30:39,200
And we need that.

917
01:30:39,700 --> 01:30:40,060
Thank you.

918
01:30:40,540 --> 01:30:49,380
Mr. Brown, could I add to that comment, there are two young persons over there that a young

919
01:30:49,380 --> 01:30:55,340
lady and a young man over there that deserve an opportunity.

920
01:30:55,340 --> 01:31:03,800
And, like Mr. Blier said, I think that turn limits are good.

921
01:31:04,220 --> 01:31:12,720
It gives them the opportunity to sit over here instead of someone like myself that has

922
01:31:14,740 --> 01:31:16,840
donated my time to the community.

923
01:31:17,140 --> 01:31:17,540
Thank you.

924
01:31:17,820 --> 01:31:21,800
Don't you think it's time us to hear people step out of the way and young people in?

925
01:31:23,140 --> 01:31:24,280
Thank you, Mr. Brown.

926
01:31:33,440 --> 01:31:38,700
I agree with Mr. Brown about term limits, I think that that is very important.

927
01:31:39,580 --> 01:31:44,720
There is one point that I wanted to bring up is that if these amendments don't pass,

928
01:31:45,260 --> 01:31:51,320
the last time that people got something to pass last November, it was referred to as a coup.

929
01:31:52,260 --> 01:31:59,120
And so we need to realize that if these amendments don't pass, we all need to realize that everybody got out there and

930
01:31:59,120 --> 01:32:03,340
voted, and they showed their vote, and they showed their opinion.

931
01:32:03,520 --> 01:32:07,260
And I do hope that this community does not call it a coup.

932
01:32:11,780 --> 01:32:12,180
Thank you.

933
01:32:17,010 --> 01:32:17,730
Do we have a motion?

934
01:32:18,770 --> 01:32:23,970
Mr. Mayor, I make a motion to adopt ordinance 2728 on second reading as presented.

935
01:32:24,670 --> 01:32:25,050
Second.

936
01:32:25,890 --> 01:32:27,590
We have a motion to second, please vote.

937
01:32:44,050 --> 01:32:45,090
Next

938
01:32:48,830 --> 01:32:56,590
on the agenda, or next is ordinance 2729, which is for

939
01:32:58,640 --> 01:33:10,960
the approval of Council for the hiring and discharge of the city police chief public

940
01:33:13,390 --> 01:33:14,470
comment on that please.

941
01:33:22,340 --> 01:33:25,700
Beth McCorkle, boy, we have a tough crowd tonight, don't we?

942
01:33:26,800 --> 01:33:33,700
Okay, so talking about the police chief, public safety is essential to the quality of life

943
01:33:33,700 --> 01:33:35,660
and well-being of the Montrose residents.

944
01:33:36,360 --> 01:33:42,660
The current manager, Councillor Structure ensures that the city council does not overreach

945
01:33:42,660 --> 01:33:48,900
and that qualified, experienced city manager oversees that appointment, discharge, and the

946
01:33:48,900 --> 01:33:51,620
the day-to-day management of the chief of police.

947
01:33:52,200 --> 01:33:56,600
Changing that charter so that the City Council ultimately approves the appointment,

948
01:33:57,140 --> 01:34:08,640
discharge of the chief of police risk injecting special interest from council members who were not trained professionals in local government management or public safety.

949
01:34:09,040 --> 01:34:09,560
Thank you.

950
01:34:10,200 --> 01:34:11,080
Thank you.

951
01:34:11,080 --> 01:34:12,100
And

952
01:34:18,820 --> 01:34:19,680
Dave Stockton again,

953
01:34:21,810 --> 01:34:27,090
it appears we're at the end of the journey to get your four proposed amendments on the November 3rd ballot.

954
01:34:27,890 --> 01:34:41,150
I've been outspoken about all four, I've been most outspoken with respect to the city manager, having to gain approval from the city council to a point or discharge the chief of police and the city clerk.

955
01:34:41,150 --> 01:34:48,890
the proposed language simply adds a bureaucratic step to what should be the sole responsibility of the city manager.

956
01:34:49,690 --> 01:34:54,410
In fact, the proposed language is very specific in limiting city council's authority.

957
01:34:55,650 --> 01:35:02,250
The proposed language expressly prohibits council to interfere with day-to-day operations of either position.

958
01:35:03,510 --> 01:35:08,450
I fear this or a future council will find a workaround.

959
01:35:08,450 --> 01:35:11,630
That work around would be preemptive in nature.

960
01:35:12,070 --> 01:35:18,070
Council could simply disapprove of any candidate that is not aligned with their belief system.

961
01:35:18,690 --> 01:35:23,710
Because of that, the chief of police and city clerk now become political appointees.

962
01:35:24,390 --> 01:35:26,150
Another unforeseen consequence.

963
01:35:27,050 --> 01:35:31,650
So once again, I ask all of those in attendance, either physical or

964
01:35:31,650 --> 01:35:34,550
virtual to join me in voting no and no for proposals.

965
01:35:42,530 --> 01:35:48,530
Mr. Mayer, in the August 24th mayor, you sanctioned this proposed amendment in the mayor's

966
01:35:48,530 --> 01:35:54,710
minute by stating, this gives elected officials a safeguard role limited to approval or rejection.

967
01:35:54,970 --> 01:35:59,890
It does not allow the council to initiate either action, nor does it grant any operational

968
01:35:59,890 --> 01:36:01,870
control over the chief or the department.

969
01:36:02,550 --> 01:36:05,850
A safeguard role is a position of responsibility.

970
01:36:05,850 --> 01:36:17,050
A safe guard role is a position or responsibility dedicated to protecting people's health, well-being, rights, and safety, so they live free from harm, abuse, and neglect.

971
01:36:17,790 --> 01:36:26,310
In a council manager government, the mayor acts as a ceremonial head of the city and a voting member of the city council without administrative executive power.

972
01:36:26,310 --> 01:36:32,850
And a councilman manager government, a councillor, serves as an elected policymaker who represents

973
01:36:32,850 --> 01:36:37,030
the community and sets the strategic direction for the municipality.

974
01:36:38,030 --> 01:36:43,750
The mayor and councillor roles are in conflict with the safeguard role, neither the mayor

975
01:36:43,750 --> 01:36:47,830
or councillor and a councillor manager government has a safeguard role.

976
01:36:48,490 --> 01:36:53,130
There are serious concerns to be raised regarding council authority to approve or reject the

977
01:36:53,130 --> 01:36:58,730
police chief. Giving City Council approval to hire and fire police chief can politicize

978
01:36:58,730 --> 01:37:04,010
law enforcement, create gridlock during leadership crises and blur lines of accountability.

979
01:37:04,990 --> 01:37:10,230
Political interference. Council members may prioritize political or voter trends over

980
01:37:10,230 --> 01:37:15,370
public safety needs. Candidates may be chosen for their political alignment rather than

981
01:37:15,370 --> 01:37:20,870
professional skill. Decisions to remove a chief can become partisan battles instead of performance

982
01:37:20,870 --> 01:37:26,610
reviews, operational delay and gridlock, public safety can stall if a council and mayor

983
01:37:26,610 --> 01:37:32,030
disagree on a candidate. Vacancies in the top police job can last a long time during

984
01:37:32,030 --> 01:37:37,190
political arguments. Emergency changes in leadership become hard to make quickly during

985
01:37:37,190 --> 01:37:43,010
a crisis. Blurred accountability. Citizens may get confused about who is truly in charge

986
01:37:43,010 --> 01:37:48,310
of the police department. A mayor can blame the council if the police department performs poorly.

987
01:37:48,310 --> 01:37:52,830
The council can claim it only has a say in hiring not daily operations.

988
01:37:53,410 --> 01:37:57,070
A vote for will let parsing politicians police our city.

989
01:37:57,850 --> 01:38:02,210
A vote against will keep parsing politicians away from policing our city.

990
01:38:02,910 --> 01:38:07,950
Stop this government overreach and protect the rights and freedoms of all residents of Matros.

991
01:38:08,690 --> 01:38:12,710
Support the blue line and vote no on ordinance 2729.

992
01:38:12,710 --> 01:38:15,250
Here I

993
01:38:18,740 --> 01:38:21,340
am again, Lee of Anderson's loose.

994
01:38:22,100 --> 01:38:24,780
You've heard the expression two heads are better than one.

995
01:38:24,960 --> 01:38:30,200
Well, I think five heads are better than one, and I think that having the council being

996
01:38:31,880 --> 01:38:35,160
overseaers provides a safety net, so I support this.

997
01:38:35,320 --> 01:38:35,580
Thank you.

998
01:38:35,820 --> 01:38:35,920
Thank you.

999
01:38:38,850 --> 01:38:48,250
May I just correct it, and, ma'am, ma'am, I just wanted to, with all due respect, just

1000
01:38:48,250 --> 01:38:53,390
correct one thing. This is not about oversight as you just mentioned it's

1001
01:38:53,390 --> 01:38:58,550
participation and approval of the hiring and firing but not the oversight and I

1002
01:38:58,550 --> 01:39:00,910
just wanted to make that clear. Thank you.

1003
01:39:05,080 --> 01:39:08,040
Rick Byer again. I want to start off by

1004
01:39:08,040 --> 01:39:14,100
saying I live in Montrose. I love Montrose. It's a well-run city. Thank you city

1005
01:39:14,100 --> 01:39:25,560
manager. The city manager in all cases runs our town. He controls the two people who are

1006
01:39:25,560 --> 01:39:35,680
up for this discussion. He does it without any oversight. He is not elected. You people

1007
01:39:35,680 --> 01:39:42,780
are the elected people. The way I read this, and it's not the word on the street, the way

1008
01:39:42,780 --> 01:39:51,540
I read this. He has complete authority on how his people are run. It's only when he

1009
01:39:51,540 --> 01:39:59,040
comes to you for a new person that you get to look at that person and say does that person

1010
01:39:59,040 --> 01:40:05,760
agree with the way you would like the city run? I think that's a very important role for

1011
01:40:05,760 --> 01:40:08,580
you to have, I very definitely supported.

1012
01:40:15,500 --> 01:40:29,360
John Brown. I'm a little perplexed about this, I think. I believe the city manager and

1013
01:40:29,360 --> 01:40:39,880
the city attorney serve at the convenience of the council and that the city manager does

1014
01:40:39,880 --> 01:40:46,220
the selecting and hiring and firing with the approval of the council and that's what

1015
01:40:46,220 --> 01:40:53,240
this proposal is. It's not a matter of this council governing, jumping in in the middle

1016
01:40:53,240 --> 01:41:03,200
of Mr. Bill's program of taking care of the city. But it is, I think it is, showing that

1017
01:41:03,820 --> 01:41:09,860
we have that the city council has oversight over Mr. Bell and that Mr. Bell needs to follow

1018
01:41:09,860 --> 01:41:14,200
with the avenue that the City Council is going.

1019
01:41:16,360 --> 01:41:20,340
I just see that as a, we're just identifying

1020
01:41:20,340 --> 01:41:28,280
something and writing that says we are allowing Mr. Bell to continue to hire and fire City

1021
01:41:28,280 --> 01:41:42,960
council, I mean, police chief and the city clerk, but it's with the idea that the city council

1022
01:41:42,960 --> 01:41:49,840
is monitoring the city manager to make sure that he's conforming to the rules and regulations

1023
01:41:49,840 --> 01:41:51,120
that are within the city.

1024
01:41:51,620 --> 01:41:52,580
Thank you.

1025
01:41:52,840 --> 01:41:53,360
Thank you.

1026
01:41:53,360 --> 01:41:53,900
We

1027
01:41:59,570 --> 01:42:00,070
have a motion.

1028
01:42:00,590 --> 01:42:05,810
I make a motion to adopt ordinance 2729 on second reading as presented.

1029
01:42:06,590 --> 01:42:10,140
Second motion in a second.

1030
01:42:11,040 --> 01:42:12,580
These folks motion

1031
01:42:29,600 --> 01:42:31,360
passes next

1032
01:42:35,110 --> 01:42:41,590
is ordinance 2730 for the same issue for the city clerk.

1033
01:42:42,450 --> 01:42:44,150
We'll now accept public comment.

1034
01:42:51,200 --> 01:42:52,780
Cliff Farr, a mantra was Colorado.

1035
01:42:53,800 --> 01:42:58,260
Again, Mr. Mayor in the August 24th, Mayor Euth Sanction, this proposed amendment in the

1036
01:42:58,260 --> 01:43:03,680
mayor's minute by stating, this gives elected officials a safeguard role limited to approval

1037
01:43:03,680 --> 01:43:04,340
of rejection.

1038
01:43:05,040 --> 01:43:10,520
As I said before, the safeguard role is a position or responsibility dedicated protecting

1039
01:43:10,520 --> 01:43:15,620
people's health, well-being, rights, and safety so they live free from harm, abuse, and neglect.

1040
01:43:16,080 --> 01:43:19,640
You do not have that authority as the mayor or as a council member.

1041
01:43:19,640 --> 01:43:20,640
The

1042
01:43:22,650 --> 01:43:26,050
year there are serious concerns to be raised regarding council authority to

1043
01:43:26,050 --> 01:43:31,350
prove or rejects the city clerk allowing a city council to hire and fire the

1044
01:43:31,350 --> 01:43:35,210
city clerk can reduce administrative efficiency blur the lines between

1045
01:43:35,210 --> 01:43:39,750
governance and daily management and create political instability within the

1046
01:43:39,750 --> 01:43:45,570
municipal staff operational and governance concerns loss of neutrality council

1047
01:43:45,570 --> 01:43:50,230
control may pressure clerks to align with a political majority rather than

1048
01:43:50,230 --> 01:43:56,810
serving all residents fairly. Operational friction. Direct Council oversight can create friction

1049
01:43:56,810 --> 01:44:03,870
between the administrative staff and elected officials. Blurred lines. Mixing legislative policy

1050
01:44:03,870 --> 01:44:09,990
duties, your duties, with daily staff management, weekends, a traditional council manager, separation

1051
01:44:09,990 --> 01:44:15,750
of powers. High turnover. Political shifts on the council can lead to frequent disrupted

1052
01:44:18,110 --> 01:44:24,150
We've all seen what happens when unqualified individuals are allowed to influence our election process.

1053
01:44:24,630 --> 01:44:30,850
The evidence in facts are clear, as stated yesterday, by all the councillors on the dius today.

1054
01:44:31,730 --> 01:44:39,170
The city clerk, the city's chief election officer, administered the 2026 general municipal election

1055
01:44:39,170 --> 01:44:45,410
with rigorous neutrality to ensure a fair, unbiased, and accurate outcome.

1056
01:44:45,910 --> 01:44:51,170
The City Council is confident in the accuracy of the final election results.

1057
01:44:52,130 --> 01:44:56,890
A vote for will let partisan politicians meddle in our election process.

1058
01:44:56,890 --> 01:44:59,770
A vote against will keep partisan politician

1059
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:11,460
Questions out of our elections. Protect our elections and protect Montrose, the best-run, small city in Colorado, vote no on ordinance 2730. Thank you.

1060
01:45:16,620 --> 01:45:33,140
Rick Blyric, and I just listen to the person in front of me. And I think that what he speaks is the feeling of the community, that what you are asking for is higher fire authority. When I read of this, you do not have higher fire authority.

1061
01:45:33,140 --> 01:45:38,860
You do not have the ability to initiate of hiring or a firing.

1062
01:45:39,500 --> 01:45:46,600
All you have is the ability to say when the city manager comes to you with a new recommendation

1063
01:45:47,140 --> 01:45:53,080
that you think that that person is competent to do the job that you want done or not.

1064
01:45:53,640 --> 01:46:02,540
It's not a case of giving you an authority to meddle within the city as is what I hear

1065
01:46:02,540 --> 01:46:10,380
on the street. Please vote for it, give yourself the oversight so that our elected officials

1066
01:46:10,380 --> 01:46:13,060
have the last word. Thank you.

1067
01:46:22,080 --> 01:46:25,260
Again, I don't know why so many people are objecting to

1068
01:46:26,070 --> 01:46:34,240
letting the public decide what is going to be best for our community. I think we should just abandon

1069
01:46:34,240 --> 01:46:40,520
And in all of this whole rhetoric, we should elect our own police chief.

1070
01:46:40,940 --> 01:46:43,700
We should elect our own city council.

1071
01:46:44,780 --> 01:46:47,180
We should even elect our own city manager.

1072
01:46:49,920 --> 01:46:55,240
That way we don't have anybody to complain about any of this except ourselves because we

1073
01:46:55,240 --> 01:46:56,260
elected who we did.

1074
01:46:58,120 --> 01:47:01,120
Obviously, that's not following true with the rest of the people here.

1075
01:47:01,940 --> 01:47:03,780
So why don't we just put the ballots out?

1076
01:47:03,780 --> 01:47:12,580
let us vote on it in this fall. And I think the rhetoric that was said earlier was that maybe the blue wave

1077
01:47:12,580 --> 01:47:20,480
I think oh wait a minute we can't bring in partisanship into this. Let the public decide. We'll just let that happen.

1078
01:47:20,760 --> 01:47:21,380
Thank you.

1079
01:47:29,040 --> 01:47:31,520
Ron Henderson, Maros Carlisle.

1080
01:47:32,380 --> 01:47:39,600
We all are, there are a lot of things that happen tonight are entirely commendable.

1081
01:47:39,600 --> 01:47:47,180
And we should be very proud of ourselves that we have such a gathering and there's been

1082
01:47:47,180 --> 01:47:57,100
an expression of an awful lot of ideas and personal preferences that are the imaginative

1083
01:47:57,100 --> 01:47:59,640
and their imagination.

1084
01:48:01,700 --> 01:48:07,880
The fact of the matter is we're trying to set up a system where it goes ahead and takes

1085
01:48:07,880 --> 01:48:16,820
care of the realities of what goes on in the daily goings on in Montrose Colorado. We have

1086
01:48:16,820 --> 01:48:27,540
experienced a great lifestyle and working with very little and it's been absolutely marvelous.

1087
01:48:27,820 --> 01:48:34,840
It's nice to see that there's so many people that are moving in here to Montrose that are going to go

1088
01:48:34,840 --> 01:48:42,420
ahead and show us what, how things are done, and all of that, those things are necessary.

1089
01:48:43,800 --> 01:48:51,220
But the fact of the matter is we still remain with the necessity of developing the bones,

1090
01:48:52,240 --> 01:48:57,820
the skeleton of how this thing is going to go ahead and work, the city of tomorrow's.

1091
01:48:57,820 --> 01:49:08,340
So, I really appreciate the results of our last election and the entrance of New

1092
01:49:08,340 --> 01:49:18,140
Counselors and the opportunity to bring forth some changes that are necessary.

1093
01:49:18,440 --> 01:49:26,900
The fact of the matter is if anything goes wrong, it may be a long ways away from the

1094
01:49:26,900 --> 01:49:29,300
the real source of the problem in my roles,

1095
01:49:29,920 --> 01:49:32,120
but as far as city's government's concern,

1096
01:49:32,320 --> 01:49:34,880
you go ahead and fire the manager,

1097
01:49:35,600 --> 01:49:37,580
and then you go ahead and work from there.

1098
01:49:38,600 --> 01:49:39,860
And it takes a lot of time,

1099
01:49:40,040 --> 01:49:42,620
and it's very unnecessary and very inefficient.

1100
01:49:44,260 --> 01:49:46,400
I think that we have the opportunity

1101
01:49:46,400 --> 01:49:48,880
to get things put together in such a manner

1102
01:49:49,520 --> 01:49:51,320
that we would be able to go ahead

1103
01:49:51,320 --> 01:49:54,900
and meet the results of realities that come forth,

1104
01:49:54,900 --> 01:49:59,180
We're not the imaginings of the people who said it, they're computers.

1105
01:50:00,680 --> 01:50:06,900
So I really support what you're trying to accomplish with these changes.

1106
01:50:07,580 --> 01:50:08,420
Thank you.

1107
01:50:08,780 --> 01:50:09,100
Thank you.

1108
01:50:15,460 --> 01:50:20,820
Mr. Mayor, I make a motion to adopt ordinance 2730 on second reading as presented.

1109
01:50:22,060 --> 01:50:26,230
Second motion and the second please vote.

1110
01:50:36,650 --> 01:50:37,370
Motion passes.

1111
01:50:37,370 --> 01:50:37,650
Next

1112
01:50:41,810 --> 01:51:00,850
on the agenda is the Vehicle Purchase Approval City Council of consideration of the purchase of an F-150 from Silt-Telharm Motors out of Brunefield, Colorado for a total price of $63,500.

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$1 weeks, super-intended, Shane Brand.

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01:51:04,490 --> 01:51:05,830
I'll be covering tonight, Mr. Mayor.

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01:51:06,150 --> 01:51:06,330
Okay.

1116
01:51:06,570 --> 01:51:07,050
Thank you.

1117
01:51:07,230 --> 01:51:07,750
Mr. Schein.

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01:51:08,730 --> 01:51:10,270
And actually, I'm sure this is the real reason

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01:51:10,270 --> 01:51:13,470
that everybody came tonight here about this F-150

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01:51:13,470 --> 01:51:15,530
that we'd like to purchase for the police department.

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01:51:16,950 --> 01:51:20,030
So this is for detectives department,

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01:51:20,110 --> 01:51:21,550
or division within the police department.

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And this is a budget item within the 2026 budget.

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01:51:26,610 --> 01:51:30,330
It's a little bit unique because in this year's budget,

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that we planned on selling a transit van that the police department was using that was

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01:51:36,150 --> 01:51:42,270
a little bit underutilized to be able to use those proceeds to purchase this F-150.

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01:51:42,750 --> 01:51:50,450
So that van has been sold and along with those proceeds along with the budget amount we're

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01:51:50,450 --> 01:51:51,750
able to make this purchase.

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That total amount is $62,000, which was collected.

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and the purchase of this vehicle is $63,500, so it is slightly over the amount allocated for the vehicle, but we had significant savings in our large patrol vehicle purchase earlier this year, which can cover that difference.

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So with that, I did receive a few questions about this item from Councillor Wooden, and I'd be happy to answer some of those here.

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01:52:23,530 --> 01:52:29,930
So, one question was about why a truck versus an SUV similar to maybe similar or other

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01:52:29,930 --> 01:52:35,030
police vehicles and we've done a lot of work on this actually from a fleet perspective.

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01:52:36,270 --> 01:52:43,350
There's the F-150 is the lowest cost, like life cycle cost vehicle, that is available

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01:52:43,350 --> 01:52:48,570
for fleet operations and so that's what we're looking at from the only from the fleet

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01:52:48,570 --> 01:52:54,050
side of it is what can we get out of this vehicle when we sell it basically. The F-150 has the

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01:52:54,050 --> 01:53:00,750
highest resale value out of any other option. They have a very similar upfront cost, they have a

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01:53:00,750 --> 01:53:08,150
similar cost of fuel and maintenance, but the resale value is much higher on the F-150. So from

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01:53:08,150 --> 01:53:13,170
the fleet perspective that's why we choose the F-150 when we can, but from the operational side on

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01:53:13,170 --> 01:53:18,550
the police department there are a lot of times when they do need a pickup. So they are hauling

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01:53:18,550 --> 01:53:22,730
small trailers on occasion, they're hauling equipment in the truck and there is times when

1142
01:53:22,730 --> 01:53:24,870
the SUV just simply doesn't fit their need.

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01:53:27,190 --> 01:53:30,790
What model or trim level is this F-150?

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01:53:32,150 --> 01:53:39,410
So this is, it's called an XLT, but in the range of levels, that's level two of eight.

1145
01:53:40,050 --> 01:53:47,230
So it goes all up to gold platinum level and then the bottom is the XL, the second level

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01:53:47,230 --> 01:53:48,030
is XLT.

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01:53:48,030 --> 01:53:53,810
So this is two of eight, which is pretty typical for a lot of our city vehicles.

1148
01:53:54,490 --> 01:53:56,890
Again, from a fleet perspective, it's about resale.

1149
01:53:57,790 --> 01:54:03,990
You're able to recoup that resale amount a little bit higher if you choose not the lowest option level, right?

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Crank windows don't sell very well.

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01:54:05,810 --> 01:54:15,650
So the notable upgrades, it does have a towing package on the truck, that is something that's utilized by the police department.

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01:54:15,650 --> 01:54:20,610
but also it's hard to sell a truck without a towing package on it so you can see

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01:54:20,610 --> 01:54:23,430
like a lot of from the fleet time we're always looking at it from the

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01:54:23,430 --> 01:54:28,750
resale portion of it because that really does calculate into our overall fleet

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01:54:28,750 --> 01:54:33,430
approach and that leads into the last question which is about the serviceable life

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01:54:33,430 --> 01:54:39,650
of this vehicle. We have this one set at 10 years. Ideally it's less than that we

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01:54:39,650 --> 01:54:44,810
would from a resale standpoint again. It's better to sell these vehicles at a much

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01:54:44,810 --> 01:54:50,570
shorter life. But that comes with a very high upfront cost to be able to turn over your

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01:54:50,570 --> 01:54:57,350
fleet that much more often is the expensive. So we have to kind of balance the life of the

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01:54:57,350 --> 01:55:02,690
vehicle that it can truly serve versus being able to purchase more vehicles more frequently.

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So this one said it 10, 10 years of life, but again, ideally we'd be more than that 8 range,

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01:55:09,030 --> 01:55:14,390
7 or 8 years would actually be better. But it just simply has an upfront cost to be able to move

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01:55:14,390 --> 01:55:19,790
our fleet in that younger direction. So anyway, I think that answers the questions

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01:55:19,790 --> 01:55:26,110
that Adam had for Fleet Superintendent. I'd be happy to answer any more if there are

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01:55:26,110 --> 01:55:26,410
any more.

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Any other questions from Council? At this time, we'll open it for public comments.

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01:55:43,850 --> 01:55:51,930
Lee of Anderson, I'm assuming that a lot of research was done with different car truck

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01:55:51,930 --> 01:55:57,510
sellers before you made silter on your choice because I've had a very bad

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01:55:57,510 --> 01:56:03,090
experience with that company. So I just wanted to make sure that you have your

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01:56:03,090 --> 01:56:07,950
T's crossed and your eyes dotted. Yeah absolutely I can answer to that. So

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silter motors is the state bid what we're wintering Colorado this year it has been

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01:56:13,530 --> 01:56:17,690
for several years and that's where we're able to take advantage of government

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01:56:17,690 --> 01:56:25,250
and pricing on vehicles and so they are the state bid award for the year and so most vehicles

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01:56:25,250 --> 01:56:29,290
we purchased come through Siltar at least for this year and it has been that for the

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01:56:29,290 --> 01:56:33,710
last several. Siltar has been the state bid winner for several years now. I mean we've

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01:56:33,710 --> 01:56:38,330
had good experience with them. Good. I'm just glad was just concerned. Thank you.

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Thank you. We

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have a motion. I just may or I move to approve the purchase of an F-150

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50 from Cill, Tahar, Motors, out of Brunville, Colorado for a total purchase price of $63,500 as presented.

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We have a second.

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01:56:57,800 --> 01:56:58,320
Second.

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01:56:59,400 --> 01:57:01,000
We have a motion and a second.

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Please vote.

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Motion passes.

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Next up is the 2026 Montrose Permanent Fund Contribution to Colorado Mesa University.

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City Council consideration of the city's 2026 annual budgeted contribution to Colorado Mesa University in the total amount of $325,000 comprised of $250,000 toward the Colorado Mesa University Foundation permanent endowment fund and 75,000 toward the CMU City of Montrose Scholarship Fund, City Manager Bill Bell.

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Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

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01:57:51,960 --> 01:57:52,820
Oh, yeah.

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The attorney, I sent on the advisory board for the, would it be possible for me to be in this conversation?

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01:58:02,660 --> 01:58:04,300
The advisory board is fine.

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01:58:04,440 --> 01:58:10,400
If you were actually on the board of directors or something like that, that would be the conflict just sitting on the advisory board.

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01:58:10,800 --> 01:58:11,300
Okay.

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01:58:11,300 --> 01:58:11,360
Okay.

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01:58:14,500 --> 01:58:18,040
Mr. Mayor, we have, we talked about this at work session. This is the follow up

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01:58:18,040 --> 01:58:23,800
to that discussion. In the council packets, you have a description of the MOU between

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01:58:23,800 --> 01:58:32,020
the City of Montrose and Colorado Macy University, establishing in 2023 the permanent endowment

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01:58:32,020 --> 01:58:38,160
fund, which is to build a capital fund for future improvements at the CMU Montrose campus.

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the goal is to have a total fund of around two million dollars by 2028 and so

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the city committed to matching a CMU annual commitment to put money into

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that fund 2026 would be city 250,000 as you mentioned and then that would go

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01:58:57,860 --> 01:59:03,600
through 2028 and that's to be used for expansion of the physical campus adding new

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academic offerings and ticing professors to come and work here at CMU Montrose

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and then moving forward different types of programming that might come about it's really in perpetuity so it's to really plan for the long term expansion of the CMU Montrose campus.

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And then the 75,000 has been a tradition by the City of Montrose to contribute to the Montrose Scholarship Fund which helps Montrose school district students who will be attending CMU through a traditional college scholarship program.

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This

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council will have any questions on this.

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I just have a comment, I think this is a great program, really does a lot for the people

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01:59:45,620 --> 01:59:51,380
of Montrose and the students coming up, I think it's a great program,

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at this time we're

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Opening up for public comment. Steve Muthini, I'm the director of the Montrose campus of Colorado

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02:00:06,880 --> 02:00:12,280
Mace University, and I appreciate the opportunity to be here. I didn't realize this was going

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to be quite this kind of a meeting, but I'm happy to be at the tail end of the presentations.

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In all seriousness, super appreciative of the relationship that we have with the city and

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work that's been done in the past. A lot of people don't realize this, but

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Montrose is a college town and we have to act like a college town if we're

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going to grow like a college town and that brings a lot of youth and energy

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into our community. The other thing I'd like to say before I thank the

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council is I always try to use my elevator speech that I have told to the

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02:00:49,480 --> 02:00:55,480
trustees. I predict about 90% of the people that live in Mesa County realize

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02:00:55,480 --> 02:01:03,700
that CMU exists. Maybe 85% maybe 95% but there's a lot. I use the same statistic in

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02:01:03,700 --> 02:01:07,080
Montrose that only about 30% of the people that live here actually know we

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02:01:07,080 --> 02:01:12,220
have a university and probably only about 5% of that 30% realize that we

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02:01:12,220 --> 02:01:17,620
actually have a trade school. So if you do the math on compounding those errors not

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02:01:17,620 --> 02:01:22,420
that many people know that and so the efforts that have gone through by the city

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02:01:22,420 --> 02:01:28,540
to try to make sure that our campus is available to the students here hasn't

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02:01:29,060 --> 02:01:35,840
gone unnoticed. Sometime in November for Thanksgiving we try to bring the

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02:01:35,840 --> 02:01:39,260
students that have been part of the Montrose Success Fund here in front of

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02:01:39,260 --> 02:01:44,120
council so you can see the students that actually get to are rewarded by that.

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02:01:44,580 --> 02:01:49,220
About 40% of the people two years ago that passed across Montrose high

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02:01:49,220 --> 02:01:55,400
schools stage said they were just going to enter the workforce. That makes me nervous

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02:01:55,400 --> 02:01:58,580
when somebody is just out of high school and they are just going to enter the workforce.

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02:01:59,300 --> 02:02:05,160
So what we have done is through these programs that the city has sponsored the Montrose Success

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02:02:05,160 --> 02:02:12,020
Fund, it is essentially free to attend the Montrose campus. So we have the trade school.

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02:02:12,280 --> 02:02:17,860
It is not just a master's degree in anthropology that somebody may want to get. We have welding

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02:02:17,860 --> 02:02:21,360
and we have machining and we have nursing and we have a police academy.

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02:02:22,000 --> 02:02:26,400
We have all these trades and it's super important for the people in our community to know

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02:02:26,400 --> 02:02:27,220
that that's there.

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02:02:27,820 --> 02:02:30,760
That work would not be possible without the city.

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02:02:31,580 --> 02:02:38,020
We have a pedestrian friendly campus thanks to us being able to close cascade and also being

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02:02:38,020 --> 02:02:39,560
able to close south third street.

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02:02:40,120 --> 02:02:43,720
All those things as we continue to grow our campus are super important.

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02:02:44,420 --> 02:02:52,460
I'd like to personally thank Bill for his effort and all the things that we've done in our community and David Raid used to be the chair of the trustees.

1243
02:02:53,140 --> 02:02:58,620
All of the things that we have going for us in Montrose as we continue to grow this campus is incredibly important.

1244
02:02:59,280 --> 02:03:04,920
And then finally Dave Frank is actually on the advisory council in grand junction for culinary and that's next.

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02:03:05,400 --> 02:03:06,800
So thank you for your support.

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02:03:07,300 --> 02:03:07,860
Thank you.

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02:03:16,670 --> 02:03:23,750
A number of years ago, I sat on the root and advisory council, and at that time we,

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02:03:24,290 --> 02:03:32,090
Mesa State, had a large piece of property east of town on Highway 50, it's now a school.

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02:03:34,370 --> 02:03:41,590
I advocated holding that to make it a full-size, live-in campus.

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02:03:42,910 --> 02:03:43,970
We haven't done that.

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02:03:43,970 --> 02:03:51,190
And we're trying to build a campus within the city which automatically limits the size

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02:03:51,190 --> 02:03:52,270
of the campus.

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02:03:52,870 --> 02:03:59,290
I'm wondering what thought has been given to eventually having a campus outside where

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02:03:59,290 --> 02:04:05,030
you have a quadrangle and a bunch of buildings around it that looks, feels, and educates

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02:04:05,030 --> 02:04:06,930
as a traditional college.

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02:04:09,620 --> 02:04:10,060
Thank you.

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02:04:21,340 --> 02:04:23,080
Julie Yarnell, Monchers.

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02:04:23,080 --> 02:04:28,640
I just want to thank the Council for their support of the CMU campus.

1259
02:04:29,420 --> 02:04:33,040
I know there's been a lot of mentioning of we need to bring some youth and

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02:04:33,040 --> 02:04:38,540
new blood into our community and that's a very positive impact for

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02:04:38,540 --> 02:04:48,000
our youth that live here to have opportunities to stay here, grow here, spread their entrepreneurial ship, create new businesses.

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And so I hope that you continue to support this program.

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02:04:51,340 --> 02:04:51,600
Thank you.

1264
02:04:51,600 --> 02:04:52,280
Thank you.

1265
02:04:52,280 --> 02:04:52,580
Thank you.

1266
02:04:52,840 --> 02:04:53,060
Have

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02:04:57,610 --> 02:04:57,950
a motion.

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02:04:58,530 --> 02:05:04,190
Mr. Mayor, I move to approve the city's 2026 annual budget contribution to Colorado

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02:05:04,190 --> 02:05:08,950
Macy University in the amount of $325,000 as presented.

1270
02:05:09,470 --> 02:05:09,710
Second.

1271
02:05:10,250 --> 02:05:11,130
We have a motion.

1272
02:05:11,210 --> 02:05:11,390
Second.

1273
02:05:11,910 --> 02:05:12,310
Please vote.

1274
02:05:14,860 --> 02:05:15,400
I'm sorry.

1275
02:05:15,540 --> 02:05:18,360
Did Mr. Frank, did you have a comment?

1276
02:05:21,120 --> 02:05:21,320
No.

1277
02:05:21,420 --> 02:05:22,300
I was second in the motion.

1278
02:05:22,600 --> 02:05:22,920
Okay.

1279
02:05:44,680 --> 02:05:45,360
Motion passes.

1280
02:05:45,360 --> 02:05:46,580
Next

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02:05:49,260 --> 02:06:05,940
is ordinance 2723, the second reading, the city council consideration of ordinance 2723 on second reading and ordinance of the city of Montrose, Colorado, vacating portions of a drainage easement within the city of Montrose, city, engineer Scott Murphy.

1282
02:06:05,940 --> 02:06:07,060
Thank you, Mayor.

1283
02:06:07,780 --> 02:06:11,700
Well, this is the third time we've talked about it, I'll keep it brief and no changes since

1284
02:06:11,700 --> 02:06:12,980
the last time we've talked about it.

1285
02:06:13,060 --> 02:06:18,140
But this is over in Sunrise Creek, but attention pond was built with the original subdivision

1286
02:06:18,140 --> 02:06:23,000
and the plating and the actual construction were a little mismatched, the area that they

1287
02:06:23,000 --> 02:06:28,320
reserved on that easement was quite a bit larger than the pond and unnecessary the pond is

1288
02:06:28,320 --> 02:06:32,580
large enough to serve its needs and isn't needed for any maintenance access on the side

1289
02:06:32,580 --> 02:06:33,760
that's looking to be vacated.

1290
02:06:33,760 --> 02:06:38,900
So, the owner of the land there reached out to us for questioning that we vacate this.

1291
02:06:39,880 --> 02:06:44,500
We agreed to it in concept to bring it before council and in response to that they hired

1292
02:06:44,500 --> 02:06:48,860
the survey, did all the survey work necessary to do this so with that we prepared the ordinance.

1293
02:06:49,560 --> 02:06:50,920
This will be the second reading here.

1294
02:06:51,480 --> 02:06:55,840
The approved would record it just so it shows up on their title and that would be the end

1295
02:06:55,840 --> 02:06:56,660
of the process.

1296
02:06:57,040 --> 02:06:58,260
I'm happy to answer any questions.

1297
02:07:01,290 --> 02:07:02,690
Any questions from council?

1298
02:07:06,210 --> 02:07:07,050
Any public comment?

1299
02:07:07,050 --> 02:07:12,060
I'm seeing there is none. Do we have a motion?

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02:07:15,120 --> 02:07:19,220
Mr. Mayor, I move to the adopt ordinance 27-20-30 on second reading as presented.

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02:07:20,480 --> 02:07:20,840
Second.

1302
02:07:21,460 --> 02:07:22,420
We have a motion.

1303
02:07:22,540 --> 02:07:23,320
Second, please vote.

1304
02:07:36,100 --> 02:07:36,880
Motion passes.

1305
02:07:37,940 --> 02:07:40,640
Next is ordinance 27-24.

1306
02:07:40,880 --> 02:07:41,440
Second reading.

1307
02:07:41,840 --> 02:07:45,540
City Council consideration of ordinance 27-24 on second reading.

1308
02:07:45,940 --> 02:07:50,040
And ordinance of the City of Montrose, Colorado vacating portions of the right of way

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02:07:50,040 --> 02:07:54,200
within the city of Monterey, a city engineer, Scott Murphy once again.

1310
02:07:55,900 --> 02:07:58,200
Thank you Mayor, so a similar deal.

1311
02:07:58,540 --> 02:08:02,040
This is the third time talking about this one in no changes since previously discussed.

1312
02:08:02,600 --> 02:08:06,920
This is off of kind of the Nichols Way area, which is between Stone Bridge and

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02:08:06,920 --> 02:08:13,080
Cirque, which are two different name streets that joined together just north of the bridges and Niagara Road.

1314
02:08:13,600 --> 02:08:18,460
There's an old county subdivision that originally came in, was built as a county subdivision dedicated some rights of way

1315
02:08:18,460 --> 02:08:23,960
an anticipation of a future connection to stone bridge and surf and the way

1316
02:08:23,960 --> 02:08:27,500
that area ended up ultimately being platted in the early 2000s on that

1317
02:08:27,500 --> 02:08:33,160
connection wasn't made and isn't really necessary and so this is kind of to

1318
02:08:33,160 --> 02:08:38,040
clean up the obsolete tail of right-of-way and rights away are vacated they go

1319
02:08:38,040 --> 02:08:42,820
back the adjoining landowners it's not fee simple land that we can like own and do

1320
02:08:42,820 --> 02:08:46,340
what we wish or sell it or anything like that it's it's granted in the first

1321
02:08:46,340 --> 02:08:51,460
place for a right of way for streets and then it goes back if not needed and so

1322
02:08:51,460 --> 02:08:54,900
it gets split down the middle it goes to adjacent property owners and then they

1323
02:08:54,900 --> 02:09:00,340
can work amongst themselves if they want to shift or move them around and so we

1324
02:09:00,340 --> 02:09:05,120
prepared the this started with a landowner request it's kind of been on our long

1325
02:09:05,120 --> 02:09:08,240
term radar but we never pulled the plug on it because there wasn't really a

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02:09:08,240 --> 02:09:12,080
major driver until we were approached by the adjacent landowners looking to clean it

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02:09:12,080 --> 02:09:16,100
up and so in this case because there is benefit for the city we paid for the

1328
02:09:16,100 --> 02:09:20,000
survey the benefit being that you know it just kind of cleans up our rights of

1329
02:09:20,000 --> 02:09:24,440
way it's it's land we won't have to maintain and perpetuity without a public

1330
02:09:24,440 --> 02:09:31,140
benefit and so better used reverting back to the adjacent landowners and yeah

1331
02:09:31,140 --> 02:09:36,140
happy to answer any questions. I did have one question are any of those lots on

1332
02:09:36,140 --> 02:09:43,120
Madeline in the city are they counting? That whole subdivision is north of Stone

1333
02:09:43,120 --> 02:09:45,100
I think the number of people in the city,

1334
02:09:45,760 --> 02:09:47,040
I'll pull up a map just to make sure

1335
02:09:47,040 --> 02:09:49,900
that Maddie specifically is

1336
02:09:52,780 --> 02:09:54,600
Will's racing me to it.

1337
02:09:55,120 --> 02:09:56,060
Yes, it is in the city.

1338
02:09:56,380 --> 02:09:58,460
I think that annexed, it was in the county

1339
02:09:58,460 --> 02:09:59,860
for a long time, annexed in the city,

1340
02:09:59,880 --> 02:10:01,500
I think when Sue came through that area,

1341
02:10:02,080 --> 02:10:03,920
that's what drove its initial annexations.

1342
02:10:07,820 --> 02:10:08,940
Any other questions from council?

1343
02:10:10,200 --> 02:10:11,840
This time we'll open it up for public comments.

1344
02:10:14,310 --> 02:10:15,010
Seeing there are none.

1345
02:10:15,950 --> 02:10:16,690
Do we have a motion?

1346
02:10:17,010 --> 02:10:19,610
I make a motion to adopt ordinance 2724

1347
02:10:19,610 --> 02:10:22,730
second reading as presented? Second.

1348
02:10:25,510 --> 02:10:27,030
We have a motion and a second please vote.

1349
02:10:36,240 --> 02:10:41,540
Motion passes. Next on the agenda is the North Park Avenue Division of

1350
02:10:41,540 --> 02:10:46,120
Property, Official Act of the City. City Council consideration of the

1351
02:10:46,120 --> 02:10:51,500
North Park Avenue, Official Act of the City Division of Property Plan to

1352
02:10:51,500 --> 02:10:57,620
consolidate property lines and dedicate rights of way along North Park and

1353
02:10:57,620 --> 02:11:05,000
San Juan Avenue. City engineers come. Thank you Mayor. So this is a plant process used for

1354
02:11:05,740 --> 02:11:09,900
cleanup actions generally. The city owns parcels.

1355
02:11:10,380 --> 02:11:15,480
It wasn't

1356
02:11:19,570 --> 02:11:19,710
me.

1357
02:11:23,040 --> 02:11:28,740
I set the intersections of North Park in San Juan. One was used for the greenway

1358
02:11:28,740 --> 02:11:33,480
site. People might be familiar with that corner there. Right next to the east of what was the

1359
02:11:34,660 --> 02:11:38,320
The city also acquired the south and we are the lot immediately south of that.

1360
02:11:38,920 --> 02:11:41,860
There's some potential, a couple things going on in that area.

1361
02:11:42,860 --> 02:11:48,240
The city is going to, are as planned, to rebuild North Park Avenue between Main Street and

1362
02:11:48,240 --> 02:11:48,660
San Juan.

1363
02:11:49,120 --> 02:11:56,240
This part of 2027's capital efforts, it's about a $5 million project, so a pretty large project.

1364
02:11:56,800 --> 02:12:01,260
In this area, we don't have the full width of right-of-way, so it's dedicating the kind

1365
02:12:01,260 --> 02:12:06,760
of additional 20-foot strip along Park Avenue to meet continuity with remainder of Park Avenue.

1366
02:12:07,180 --> 02:12:12,060
So that right away is consistent. What that will allow in this area is the same kind of pattern

1367
02:12:12,060 --> 02:12:17,140
of detached sidewalk and a little bit widening of the road to allow bike lanes and some

1368
02:12:17,140 --> 02:12:22,300
on-street parking in that area. Consistent matching the rest of Park Avenue. It also has some

1369
02:12:22,300 --> 02:12:27,560
right away dedication along San Juan Avenue. So that's similarly a sidewalk. It's part of the park

1370
02:12:27,560 --> 02:12:31,540
project we're looking to bring a sidewalk from park all the way down to

1371
02:12:31,540 --> 02:12:36,420
Cascade along San Juan and then similarly down north nine street to get those

1372
02:12:36,420 --> 02:12:39,980
kind of meaningful pedestrian connections where we now have Maverick in the

1373
02:12:39,980 --> 02:12:46,420
car wash redevelopment down there that give us connections to tie to and the

1374
02:12:46,420 --> 02:12:50,220
because those were two lots this also removes a lot line between the two just to

1375
02:12:50,220 --> 02:12:54,080
clean that up so that when development does come to the area which some

1376
02:12:54,080 --> 02:12:58,000
And multi-family housing is eyeing this area, so this just kind of sets that up.

1377
02:12:58,240 --> 02:13:03,640
There was some state involvement in some of those projects, and so there's just kind

1378
02:13:03,640 --> 02:13:06,120
of cleaned up that property and anticipation of that project.

1379
02:13:06,860 --> 02:13:10,780
The reason these are just kind of a council action is, again, there's no, you know, lots

1380
02:13:10,780 --> 02:13:15,380
being created or, you know, it's not being used in the name of development, like a typical

1381
02:13:15,380 --> 02:13:17,960
flat would be where they're making residential lots or things like that.

1382
02:13:18,100 --> 02:13:20,300
This is just kind of cleaning up those actions.

1383
02:13:20,300 --> 02:13:23,520
and because it includes the dedication that comes to council.

1384
02:13:24,540 --> 02:13:26,520
With that, happy to answer any questions.

1385
02:13:28,570 --> 02:13:29,730
Any questions from council?

1386
02:13:31,310 --> 02:13:33,350
At this time, we'll open it for public comment.

1387
02:13:35,070 --> 02:13:36,130
So there is none.

1388
02:13:37,590 --> 02:13:38,350
Do we have a motion?

1389
02:13:39,010 --> 02:13:42,090
I make a motion to approve the North Park Avenue official act

1390
02:13:42,090 --> 02:13:45,150
of the city division of property flat as presented.

1391
02:13:46,530 --> 02:13:47,050
Second.

1392
02:13:47,830 --> 02:13:48,350
Second.

1393
02:13:48,350 --> 02:13:51,620
We have a motion and a second.

1394
02:13:51,840 --> 02:13:52,200
Please vote.

1395
02:14:03,520 --> 02:14:04,300
The motion passes.

1396
02:14:05,600 --> 02:14:09,240
Next on the agenda is the Valley Ranch Subdivision Filing.

1397
02:14:10,700 --> 02:14:12,120
One final plat.

1398
02:14:13,000 --> 02:14:16,640
City Council consideration of the Valley Ranch Subdivision Filing.

1399
02:14:17,080 --> 02:14:20,380
One final plat, Senior Planner William Rees.

1400
02:14:21,760 --> 02:14:23,380
Thank you and good evening, Mr. Mayor.

1401
02:14:23,520 --> 02:14:25,340
Members of the City Council and members of the public

1402
02:14:26,480 --> 02:14:32,140
I was trying to repair ahead of time and interrupted Scott, so I apologize.

1403
02:14:34,560 --> 02:14:35,700
Has a consequence.

1404
02:14:36,740 --> 02:14:42,370
I'll just need a few seconds to repair an house, okay, it's my fault.

1405
02:14:57,900 --> 02:14:59,980
Again, apologies for that, but the-

1406
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:06,880
Valley Ranch Subdivision is located on a 96.03 a.k.r. site, south of British Drive. This first filing

1407
02:15:06,880 --> 02:15:15,220
proposes 15 residential lots and will be property overall. This would advance. There we go. While

1408
02:15:15,220 --> 02:15:19,440
the property overall is split between three different zoning districts, all 15 lots are within

1409
02:15:19,440 --> 02:15:24,620
the R3A, medium, high-density district. The Valley Ranch Subdivision preliminary flat was approved

1410
02:15:24,620 --> 02:15:29,720
by city council on December 3rd, 2024. All lots must meet the minimum loss size,

1411
02:15:29,720 --> 02:15:33,040
as per the R3A zoning district, streets must be in place

1412
02:15:33,040 --> 02:15:34,380
and approved by the city engineer

1413
02:15:34,380 --> 02:15:36,000
and utilities must be installed.

1414
02:15:36,800 --> 02:15:38,260
This is a three-page plat.

1415
02:15:38,700 --> 02:15:42,000
The first page is mostly just plat notes and signature lines.

1416
02:15:42,860 --> 02:15:47,460
And the second page shows he lost themselves, as well as

1417
02:15:47,460 --> 02:15:51,000
rights of way, dedication, for a small continuation

1418
02:15:51,000 --> 02:15:54,180
of British drive and a cul-de-sac that most of these lots

1419
02:15:54,180 --> 02:15:57,780
are being accessed off of just one minor note.

1420
02:15:57,780 --> 02:16:04,560
There will also be an easement that will be necessary on the rear side, the northern three

1421
02:16:04,560 --> 02:16:05,040
lots.

1422
02:16:06,780 --> 02:16:11,340
That will be included before the final plat is printed and signed and recorded.

1423
02:16:12,360 --> 02:16:18,520
The majority of the property, which is the remaining 86.56 acres, are being reserved for future filings.

1424
02:16:19,220 --> 02:16:24,060
Staff finds that the plat is in compliance with the subdivision regulations and the comprehensive plan.

1425
02:16:24,060 --> 02:16:27,300
The proposal does meet the intent of the R3A's owning district.

1426
02:16:27,580 --> 02:16:31,120
Staff recommends approval of the Valley Ranch Subhibition filing number one final

1427
02:16:31,120 --> 02:16:34,320
plat with the standard plat condition that we recommend for all plates.

1428
02:16:35,100 --> 02:16:36,320
And I'm happy to answer any questions.

1429
02:16:38,320 --> 02:16:43,780
I guess the only comment I would make is I have reviewed this and I do on the merits

1430
02:16:43,780 --> 02:16:48,720
think it's subject to approval but I would also think that the developer deserves some

1431
02:16:48,720 --> 02:16:54,480
points for having to put up with an endure of what he, this torture, he's had to go through

1432
02:16:54,480 --> 02:16:58,660
his night to get to his agenda item. So that accounts for something.

1433
02:17:01,060 --> 02:17:02,280
With that, I'd be happy

1434
02:17:02,280 --> 02:17:02,740
to make a move.

1435
02:17:06,380 --> 02:17:11,620
At this time, we'll be accepting public comment, seeing there is none.

1436
02:17:12,260 --> 02:17:16,840
Then I would move to approve the Brookside Meadows subdivision filing final

1437
02:17:16,840 --> 02:17:21,880
flat expressly conditioned upon city staff and during ensuring that all policies, regulations,

1438
02:17:21,880 --> 02:17:30,880
organizations, ordinance, and municipal code provisions are met, and that the applicant adequately addresses all the staff's concerns prior to execution of the final plat.

1439
02:17:31,520 --> 02:17:38,920
The city staff is not authorized by this approval to execute the final plat prior to all conditions being satisfied.

1440
02:17:40,540 --> 02:17:46,400
If I may just interrupt real quick, this item is for the Valley Ranch subdivision.

1441
02:17:46,720 --> 02:17:48,840
The motion that was made was for the Brookside Meadows.

1442
02:17:48,840 --> 02:17:51,960
I have my apologies, I screwed up right over that.

1443
02:17:52,620 --> 02:17:57,240
So then I would move to approve the Valley Ranch subdivision filing one final plat expressly

1444
02:17:57,240 --> 02:18:01,220
conditioned upon city staff ensuring that all policies, regulations, ordinance and municipal

1445
02:18:01,220 --> 02:18:07,900
code provisions are met and that the applicant adequately addresses all of status concerns prior

1446
02:18:07,900 --> 02:18:13,340
to execution of the final plat, the city staff is not authorized by this approval to execute

1447
02:18:13,340 --> 02:18:16,360
the final plat prior to all conditions being satisfied.

1448
02:18:16,960 --> 02:18:17,520
Second.

1449
02:18:18,880 --> 02:18:21,000
I have a motion and a second, please vote.

1450
02:18:31,440 --> 02:18:32,220
Most impasses.

1451
02:18:33,640 --> 02:18:37,940
Next on the agenda is the Brookside Meadows subdivision filing one final plat.

1452
02:18:38,640 --> 02:18:45,000
It's the Council consideration of the Brookside Meadows subdivision filing one final plat,

1453
02:18:45,700 --> 02:18:47,760
senior planner William Rees, once again.

1454
02:18:50,080 --> 02:18:50,620
Thank you again.

1455
02:18:51,040 --> 02:18:55,120
This is a 20.49 acre site which

1456
02:18:58,230 --> 02:19:00,630
is legally described as a lot too of the sugar pine mine or

1457
02:19:00,630 --> 02:19:06,770
subdivision off the 6700 road and Miami road. The property is owned R2 low density district.

1458
02:19:07,110 --> 02:19:11,730
City Council did approve the Brookside Meadows subdivision preliminary plat on October 15th,

1459
02:19:11,730 --> 02:19:18,030
2024. All lots must meet the minimum lot size per the R2 zoning. Again, all streets must be in

1460
02:19:18,030 --> 02:19:23,890
place and approved as well as utilities. Once again, the first page is mainly plat notes and

1461
02:19:23,890 --> 02:19:29,550
signature blocks as required by all final plates. And page two shows the actual subdivision itself

1462
02:19:29,550 --> 02:19:36,630
consisting of 46 residential lots along with the right-of-way dedication and open space as well as easements as required.

1463
02:19:37,970 --> 02:19:43,690
Staff finds that this plan is in compliance with the subdivision regulations and the comprehensive plan and the R2 zoning district.

1464
02:19:44,230 --> 02:19:49,830
Staff recommends approval of the Brookside Meadows subdivision filing one final flat, again with the standard condition.

1465
02:19:50,330 --> 02:19:51,410
And I'm happy to answer any questions.

1466
02:19:54,520 --> 02:19:55,540
Any questions from council?

1467
02:19:58,210 --> 02:19:59,990
At this time we'll open it up for public comment.

1468
02:19:59,990 --> 02:20:01,090
Since

1469
02:20:08,930 --> 02:20:16,750
this is at the intersection basically of 6,700 road in Miami, has there been any provision

1470
02:20:16,750 --> 02:20:25,150
to expand Miami because that's probably going to be a lot more traffic on that?

1471
02:20:26,130 --> 02:20:36,370
And I know that the bridge over that's on 6,700 road is going to be expanded, is that

1472
02:20:36,370 --> 02:20:42,110
are going to be expanded to meet the Iron Horse subdivision,

1473
02:20:43,070 --> 02:20:46,710
wrote configuration, or just the way

1474
02:20:46,710 --> 02:20:48,910
that 6700 is on that portion.

1475
02:20:49,610 --> 02:20:51,310
Is it going to be expanded to make that?

1476
02:20:51,430 --> 02:20:55,610
Because there's going to be a lot more traffic on 6700

1477
02:20:55,610 --> 02:20:58,730
and on Miami, for sure.

1478
02:21:04,210 --> 02:21:07,750
So a couple of things in this plat that are included on that

1479
02:21:08,210 --> 02:21:12,110
So yes, the easy, the lowest any fruit, there will be the bridge.

1480
02:21:12,330 --> 02:21:14,930
So the bridge, the 60, 700 bridge is currently under design.

1481
02:21:15,030 --> 02:21:20,290
It's about 80% of those are so of the way there and is in the budget to start construction

1482
02:21:20,290 --> 02:21:22,810
in late 27 and the water goes down.

1483
02:21:22,970 --> 02:21:28,790
So we did it this early spring, procure the box culverts through the summer and then start

1484
02:21:28,790 --> 02:21:30,370
construction and the water goes down in the fall.

1485
02:21:30,550 --> 02:21:35,110
So on all new bridges, we replace, we build them for their future and eventually build out.

1486
02:21:35,110 --> 02:21:41,370
So even though the road will stay just too late for now it's built that when the road is widened it would be the full template

1487
02:21:41,370 --> 02:21:45,510
And you wouldn't need to do any additional bridge work or widening or utility work

1488
02:21:45,510 --> 02:21:49,990
We kind of get it all out of the way. So it's just a matter of striping when the future project comes

1489
02:21:50,450 --> 02:21:56,550
The plot also includes provisions for dedication for some of the space needed to accommodate that bridge widening

1490
02:21:57,410 --> 02:22:01,190
And dedication for a future roundabout at Miami and 6700

1491
02:22:02,050 --> 02:22:06,470
Those improvements aren't warranted yet, but we want to make sure that no encroachments occur.

1492
02:22:06,950 --> 02:22:12,450
It's in our master plans for capital, so we want to make sure that no encroachments occur,

1493
02:22:12,570 --> 02:22:19,090
that would hinder when the need arises. As part of the subdivision process, they do traffic studies

1494
02:22:19,090 --> 02:22:25,130
to look at all the various intersections and capacities. Although Miami is narrow, it does have the

1495
02:22:25,130 --> 02:22:30,770
capacity to accommodate the additional traffic that does welcome from Brooks out here. We love to

1496
02:22:30,770 --> 02:22:34,570
widen them all to the, you know, modern minor arterial standard with full detached walks

1497
02:22:34,570 --> 02:22:38,230
and bike lanes and turn lanes and everything, but it just takes time.

1498
02:22:38,570 --> 02:22:43,670
And so, you know, within the capital plan there's prioritization of what and where, and

1499
02:22:43,670 --> 02:22:50,170
in this vicinity, the highest priority improvement is the widening of the bridge.

1500
02:22:50,410 --> 02:22:54,570
It's kind of at the end of its life, and also anyone who's driven it pretty unsafe with

1501
02:22:54,570 --> 02:22:55,330
how narrow it is.

1502
02:22:55,910 --> 02:23:00,290
And then the signal at 6,700 in highway 50 is getting close to warrants.

1503
02:23:00,690 --> 02:23:04,070
It has to hit a certain volume threshold before C.Dot will allow us to put in the signal

1504
02:23:04,610 --> 02:23:07,850
within this corridor. My guess is that would probably be the next improvement to follow.

1505
02:23:08,490 --> 02:23:12,950
I don't have exact timelines on that, but those are the two lowest hanging fruit within this area.

1506
02:23:14,170 --> 02:23:19,970
And like any subdivision, any traffic, they all add traffic. We keep an eye on where the pressures are building.

1507
02:23:20,630 --> 02:23:24,570
Look at all the studies to understand which areas are getting close to hitting

1508
02:23:24,570 --> 02:23:28,090
level of service thresholds is what they're called so and when they hit those

1509
02:23:28,090 --> 02:23:32,890
it's when we start moving up the line on the on the capital improvement plan kind

1510
02:23:32,890 --> 02:23:39,390
of knocking those out one piece at a time. So short, short answer. Yes few of

1511
02:23:39,390 --> 02:23:39,950
those are in the works.

1512
02:23:43,260 --> 02:23:49,320
Any other questions? I think Mr. Mayor just so the

1513
02:23:49,320 --> 02:23:53,300
record will accurate reflect that I did move to approve the Brookside

1514
02:23:53,300 --> 02:23:58,720
of subdivision, I should be the one making the motion to approve that, so I will move

1515
02:23:58,720 --> 02:24:03,780
to approve the Brickside Medal of Subdivision, filing one, filing final plat expressly condition

1516
02:24:03,780 --> 02:24:09,100
upon CitySat, ensuring that all policies, regulations, ordinance, and municipal code revisions

1517
02:24:09,100 --> 02:24:14,660
are met and that the applicant adequately addresses all the staff's concerns prior to the execution

1518
02:24:14,660 --> 02:24:20,960
of the final plat. The CitySat is not authorized by this approval to execute the final plat prior

1519
02:24:20,960 --> 02:24:22,600
to all conditions, again, satisfied.

1520
02:24:24,710 --> 02:24:25,310
We have a second.

1521
02:24:26,970 --> 02:24:27,570
Second.

1522
02:24:28,880 --> 02:24:30,150
We have a motion in a second.

1523
02:24:30,590 --> 02:24:31,290
Please vote.

1524
02:24:41,670 --> 02:24:42,470
Motion passes.

1525
02:24:44,160 --> 02:24:46,310
Next on the agenda is the staff reports.

1526
02:24:49,130 --> 02:24:50,270
How many reports?

1527
02:24:53,380 --> 02:24:54,360
City Council comments?

1528
02:24:56,220 --> 02:24:59,040
Yeah, I have a question since Scott's here.

1529
02:25:01,220 --> 02:25:05,260
How's the situation with my amy road going along?

1530
02:25:05,260 --> 02:25:09,660
I was there today driving and there's still fences.

1531
02:25:09,940 --> 02:25:11,440
There's nobody working out there.

1532
02:25:12,360 --> 02:25:16,620
Actually, both sides of the road now have little fences.

1533
02:25:16,840 --> 02:25:20,480
And I was just curious as to what the situation is

1534
02:25:20,480 --> 02:25:21,820
and how it's progressing.

1535
02:25:23,240 --> 02:25:25,580
Yeah, so you talked about along Brookside here,

1536
02:25:25,760 --> 02:25:27,560
the at Miami in 6,700.

1537
02:25:29,020 --> 02:25:31,340
Yeah, so there's orange construction fencing

1538
02:25:31,340 --> 02:25:34,340
on private property on the north side and then actually

1539
02:25:34,340 --> 02:25:38,300
within our right of way on the south side. The contractor is part of that

1540
02:25:38,300 --> 02:25:42,280
development work was doing some water line replacement work which included AC

1541
02:25:42,280 --> 02:25:46,520
pipe, the spest of cement. It's a non-friable pipe but the way it was

1542
02:25:46,520 --> 02:25:49,840
handled included some fragments that were

1543
02:25:49,840 --> 02:25:53,040
that kind of ended up in the work area. And

1544
02:25:53,840 --> 02:25:58,120
from walking the area that generally been cleaned up was best we can tell it's kind of a private matter

1545
02:25:58,120 --> 02:26:01,540
between them and the state. That is all regulated by CDPHE

1546
02:26:02,180 --> 02:26:08,020
And so there was some report that went to City PHE, CDP-A-G-F, some to stop work while

1547
02:26:08,020 --> 02:26:14,880
they worked out evaluation and cleanup, and they're still working that out.

1548
02:26:15,360 --> 02:26:19,420
So it's between the private contractor and the state.

1549
02:26:20,460 --> 02:26:24,820
We kind of keep an eye on it to make sure that the fencing is there and that people aren't

1550
02:26:24,820 --> 02:26:26,120
walking through the area and things.

1551
02:26:26,540 --> 02:26:31,400
There's no threat to the public or by any means, and that's why it's kind of delineated

1552
02:26:31,400 --> 02:26:33,160
is to make sure that nobody goes in there and goes root

1553
02:26:33,160 --> 02:26:34,300
around and disturbs anything.

1554
02:26:35,080 --> 02:26:39,880
But still, we ask them about it about once a week

1555
02:26:39,880 --> 02:26:43,300
to understand what the timeline is with the state.

1556
02:26:44,380 --> 02:26:46,780
And the answer we kind of continually get

1557
02:26:46,780 --> 02:26:48,440
is the lawyers are talking to the lawyers

1558
02:26:48,440 --> 02:26:49,940
and they're trying to set up meetings and field blocks.

1559
02:26:51,060 --> 02:26:53,940
And as you can imagine, that's fun with multiple government

1560
02:26:53,940 --> 02:26:55,080
agencies at a state level.

1561
02:26:55,300 --> 02:26:58,560
So don't know the exact timing on that

1562
02:26:58,560 --> 02:27:04,160
when that will be resolved. We would love to see it resolved sooner than later, but we're

1563
02:27:04,160 --> 02:27:10,400
kind of somewhat out of our jurisdiction. So just kind of keeping the pressure on, but

1564
02:27:10,400 --> 02:27:15,540
that's about all we can do at this point. Thanks. Scott, I had a question too, just about

1565
02:27:15,540 --> 02:27:21,180
the roundabout, like budget wise or next step, like what's the status of it, the one that

1566
02:27:21,180 --> 02:27:28,500
just opened? Oh, yeah, so the roundabout opened last Friday. Budget wise, the project came

1567
02:27:28,500 --> 02:27:36,600
in about a million under budget, which was the projection through, which was kind of

1568
02:27:36,600 --> 02:27:43,340
our projection throughout, so we only used about 4% of the contingency or so. Still working

1569
02:27:43,340 --> 02:27:49,140
on final closeout and everything, but generally the product is 99% done. The landscaping pieces

1570
02:27:49,140 --> 02:27:53,780
are still pending there, all that landscaping will be done concurrent with the public work

1571
02:27:53,780 --> 02:27:58,960
facility and so that we included you know the sleeving stuff necessary so that when they come

1572
02:27:58,960 --> 02:28:03,180
in it's just a matter of extending that to those sprinkler systems and I think that's all being

1573
02:28:03,180 --> 02:28:08,880
designed kind of in partnership with some public outreach and things for design themes and statues

1574
02:28:08,880 --> 02:28:15,500
and things of that sort so I would expect that to all kind of get tuned up in the spring kind of

1575
02:28:15,500 --> 02:28:22,980
as the public work facility works towards opening and then do you have any other questions or contracting

1576
02:28:22,980 --> 02:28:27,440
acting status. The second contractor that we hired performed flawlessly is great.

1577
02:28:27,720 --> 02:28:31,940
Excellent finish. We're very appreciative of them. I'm kind of stepping into that situation

1578
02:28:31,940 --> 02:28:34,540
following the breach by the first contractor.

1579
02:28:37,980 --> 02:28:40,080
I'm really glad that the councilman asked the

1580
02:28:40,080 --> 02:28:44,320
question, because you weren't going to teach. You aren't your own horn, but I really appreciate

1581
02:28:44,320 --> 02:28:49,520
it. I think we all appreciate the citizens that appreciate the hard work that you've put

1582
02:28:49,520 --> 02:28:52,640
into making this substantially under budget.

1583
02:28:53,320 --> 02:28:54,020
Thank you.

1584
02:28:54,080 --> 02:28:54,280
Thank you.

1585
02:28:54,800 --> 02:28:55,540
Thank you.

1586
02:29:03,100 --> 02:29:03,700
Any other comments?

1587
02:29:04,660 --> 02:29:05,260
Council.

1588
02:29:06,240 --> 02:29:10,500
OK, at this time, we're going to take a five minute break

1589
02:29:10,500 --> 02:29:13,380
and then we will be going into executive session.

1590
02:31:12,330 --> 02:31:27,350
. . . . . . . .

1591
02:33:57,350 --> 02:34:06,050
I'm going to get there.

1592
02:34:06,470 --> 02:34:07,710
I don't want to thank you.

1593
02:34:08,170 --> 02:34:08,610
Thanks.

1594
02:35:59,880 --> 02:36:01,240
Oh, I'm not going too far.

1595
02:36:01,460 --> 02:36:01,940
Yeah.

1596
02:36:02,320 --> 02:36:02,860
I'll be back.

1597
02:36:04,440 --> 02:36:04,980
Yeah,

1598
02:36:07,570 --> 02:36:08,590
the whole up there.

1599
02:36:08,810 --> 02:36:09,230
You see me up.

1600
02:36:09,510 --> 02:36:10,130
I'll be back.

1601
02:36:10,530 --> 02:36:10,670
Yeah.

1602
02:36:11,090 --> 02:36:11,390
Good.

1603
02:36:11,770 --> 02:36:12,070
Thanks.

1604
02:36:13,750 --> 02:36:14,930
Maybe you're very welcome.

1605
02:36:15,650 --> 02:36:15,910
Thank you.

1606
02:36:18,250 --> 02:36:18,790
You're welcome.

1607
02:37:56,020 --> 02:37:57,220
Do

1608
02:37:59,620 --> 02:38:06,020
we have

1609
02:38:08,970 --> 02:38:11,950
a motion to enter executive session?

1610
02:38:11,950 --> 02:38:18,670
On so, Dave Frank, we're initially work currently in public meeting.

1611
02:38:18,670 --> 02:38:19,290
Thank you.

1612
02:38:20,350 --> 02:38:27,310
Mr. Mayor, I move to go into executive session for discussion of a personal matter under CRS

1613
02:38:27,310 --> 02:38:34,890
section 246, 4024F and for your conference with the city attorney for the purpose of

1614
02:38:34,890 --> 02:38:42,450
receiving legal advice, pursuant to CRS section 246, 4024B and the following additional details

1615
02:38:42,450 --> 02:38:44,810
are provided for identification purposes.

1616
02:38:44,810 --> 02:38:51,030
is the City Manager's Employment Status and Agreement as to both reasons to enter executive

1617
02:38:51,030 --> 02:38:51,530
session.

1618
02:38:51,850 --> 02:38:52,110
Need

1619
02:38:55,440 --> 02:38:55,800
a second.

1620
02:38:59,170 --> 02:38:59,350
Second.

1621
02:39:00,790 --> 02:39:01,830
All in favor?

1622
02:39:02,790 --> 02:39:02,970
Aye.

1623
02:39:04,670 --> 02:39:05,310
Aye.

1624
02:39:06,130 --> 02:39:06,570
All opposed?

1625
02:39:40,070 --> 02:39:42,350
We have reconvene now in open session.

1626
02:39:43,150 --> 02:39:48,370
Coming out of an executive session where Mr. Bell presented us with a proposal to separate

1627
02:39:48,370 --> 02:39:51,910
his employment with the City of Wantras, on an amicable basis.

1628
02:39:52,950 --> 02:39:59,450
We have discussed Mr. Bell's proposal in executive session, but no decision on his proposal was made in executive session.

1629
02:40:00,130 --> 02:40:07,370
We have now returned to open session to discuss Mr. Bell's proposal publicly and to take possible action.

1630
02:40:07,910 --> 02:40:09,730
There will be no public discussion.

1631
02:40:11,570 --> 02:40:19,390
And Mr. Mayor, I think we, as you have stated,

1632
02:40:20,150 --> 02:40:26,710
council has had an opportunity to hear from Mr. Bell on his proposal and he has submitted it in writing.

1633
02:40:27,430 --> 02:40:30,490
And of course, it would be a matter of public record.

1634
02:40:32,270 --> 02:40:43,330
And I, for one, believe that based on my review of what Mr. Bell has proposed, and I don't

1635
02:40:43,330 --> 02:40:50,670
know that we, that it necessarily needs a lot of further discussion, but it's important

1636
02:40:50,670 --> 02:40:56,970
that we inform our citizens of, of our discussion and our feelings about the proposal.

1637
02:40:56,970 --> 02:41:01,470
And so we're fulfilling that required duty.

1638
02:41:02,490 --> 02:41:23,890
I believe that under the circumstances that what Mr. Bill, excuse me, Mr. Bill has proposed, is in the best interest of the city, its citizens, its elected officials, its staff, leaders.

1639
02:41:23,890 --> 02:41:30,510
members, all people associated with the city and particularly for Mr. Bell and his family.

1640
02:41:31,710 --> 02:41:44,310
So on that basis, I believe it is the appropriate direction for a council to accept Mr. Bell's

1641
02:41:44,310 --> 02:41:53,750
proposal as proposed and after further council discussion, I would be prepared to make

1642
02:41:53,750 --> 02:42:02,470
motion to accept that? Any further comments? Does the public need to see the contract before we

1643
02:42:02,470 --> 02:42:11,930
agree to it? No, it doesn't need to be how, you know, in packets or anything like that as it was

1644
02:42:11,930 --> 02:42:17,970
presented in the executive session in the packet.

1645
02:42:18,710 --> 02:42:26,710
So since this motion really isn't on the agenda, it hasn't really been noticed, I will

1646
02:42:26,710 --> 02:42:31,710
be putting the separation agreement into the meeting two weeks from now as a ratification

1647
02:42:31,710 --> 02:42:35,690
of any decisions made right now.

1648
02:42:35,690 --> 02:42:44,990
So it will be available to the public, it will be public record, so yes in the next meeting but we can

1649
02:42:44,990 --> 02:42:47,850
effectuate on it today.

1650
02:42:48,510 --> 02:42:48,690
Perfect.

1651
02:42:51,630 --> 02:42:52,190
Anyone else?

1652
02:42:59,900 --> 02:43:01,040
May I make a look at it?

1653
02:43:01,740 --> 02:43:02,060
Please.

1654
02:43:03,000 --> 02:43:06,560
There being no further council discussion.

1655
02:43:11,130 --> 02:43:13,310
I moved

1656
02:43:18,050 --> 02:43:21,470
to accept Mr. Bell's proposal as proposed.

1657
02:43:24,550 --> 02:43:32,590
have effective immediately to be submitted to Council for a final ratification at the

1658
02:43:33,410 --> 02:43:36,770
next City Council meeting two weeks from tonight.

1659
02:43:40,350 --> 02:43:41,110
Second.

1660
02:43:41,590 --> 02:43:41,670
I

1661
02:43:45,220 --> 02:43:51,400
don't have my computer on, so this will be a voice vote, all in favor.

1662
02:43:52,360 --> 02:43:52,760
Hi.

1663
02:43:53,120 --> 02:43:53,540
Hi.

1664
02:43:53,540 --> 02:43:55,880
That is

1665
02:44:00,490 --> 02:44:03,790
all five, Madam Post, Ms. Spell,

1666
02:44:05,840 --> 02:44:06,560
thank you.

1667
02:44:07,860 --> 02:44:09,900
Thank you, Bill, everything that you've done.

1668
02:44:26,090 --> 02:44:35,270
I think we probably, Mr. Mayor, need to discuss the next step of this process,

1669
02:44:35,270 --> 02:44:40,830
which is the acting and potential interim city manager.

1670
02:44:40,830 --> 02:44:45,490
and is Ms. Morgan Taylor back in the room?

1671
02:44:47,290 --> 02:44:49,070
And could you come forward, please?

1672
02:44:57,500 --> 02:44:59,820
So that the public is fully aware.

1673
02:45:00,020 --> 02:45:12,420
We did discuss, if we were to take action on Mr. Bell's proposal this evening as proposed,

1674
02:45:13,660 --> 02:45:20,620
that we would need to consider the immediate future for the city in terms of leadership.

1675
02:45:22,920 --> 02:45:31,920
and we, having now taken official action on Mr. Bell's proposal,

1676
02:45:39,640 --> 02:45:44,460
we have a very competent

1677
02:45:44,980 --> 02:45:56,560
deputy city manager who would automatically assume as deputy city manager the role of

1678
02:45:56,560 --> 02:46:06,500
the acting city manager per contract or per her employment status upon the absence of the city manager.

1679
02:46:07,500 --> 02:46:09,060
So with Mr. Bell's

1680
02:46:11,270 --> 02:46:17,470
resignation affecting immediately, that would necessarily make Ms.

1681
02:46:17,470 --> 02:46:28,190
Morgan Fairler the acting city manager. We further discussed what would be

1682
02:46:28,190 --> 02:46:37,150
appropriate in terms of acting versus interim city manager and discuss in

1683
02:46:37,150 --> 02:46:45,630
some detail what the acting city manager is and is not and what the

1684
02:46:45,630 --> 02:46:49,530
The interim city manager is and is not.

1685
02:46:52,190 --> 02:47:01,810
And I am of the belief that, of course, she will assume the acting role immediately.

1686
02:47:02,930 --> 02:47:10,010
But I believe it is in the best interest and just so you know that our constituents understand

1687
02:47:10,010 --> 02:47:22,790
and that the acting city manager really is the acting city manager in the absence of the city manager.

1688
02:47:23,030 --> 02:47:33,110
But with the city manager having resigned, it's really not anticipating the city manager to return having accepted his resignation.

1689
02:47:34,110 --> 02:47:34,950
So it's important.

1690
02:47:34,950 --> 02:47:42,290
I just just for the record it's not a raise ignition. It's a mutual separation. What did I say you said? I'm sorry

1691
02:47:44,670 --> 02:47:54,690
You'll have to forget me tonight but the the the mutual separation

1692
02:47:56,530 --> 02:48:03,350
But I I think that it's important for continuity purposes for the city

1693
02:48:03,350 --> 02:48:15,330
for our staff and for this council that we have leadership for the immediate future.

1694
02:48:15,950 --> 02:48:25,070
So I am very much in favor of not only having this Martin Thierry assume the role of acting

1695
02:48:25,070 --> 02:48:34,710
city manager, but to immediately assume the role of interim city manager, subject to final

1696
02:48:34,710 --> 02:48:42,790
negotiations with the council in terms of salary and benefits. And I would think it would

1697
02:48:42,790 --> 02:48:49,350
be appropriate, and of course this is obviously helping to council discussion and motion and approval,

1698
02:48:49,350 --> 02:48:57,730
But I would be inclined to think that it is appropriate to make the interim effective

1699
02:48:58,270 --> 02:49:10,550
immediately subject to the final negotiations and bring it back to Council to ratify and

1700
02:49:10,550 --> 02:49:18,090
accept that position of interim city manager at the Council meeting in two weeks and make

1701
02:49:18,090 --> 02:49:23,730
make it, even though she would fill the interim for two weeks, to make it at that time,

1702
02:49:25,690 --> 02:49:33,250
back to tonight, effective as of tonight, relative to her employment salary and benefits,

1703
02:49:33,830 --> 02:49:42,850
so that we, quite frankly, don't, from a management standpoint and from a continuity standpoint

1704
02:49:42,850 --> 02:49:49,790
point. And from a city standpoint, we don't miss a beat going forward that Ms. Margaret

1705
02:49:49,790 --> 02:49:56,830
Taylor steps in immediately. That would be my preference in my recommendation. Do

1706
02:49:56,830 --> 02:50:02,970
we have a motion? How would I put that into a motion? You can just say I might so move.

1707
02:50:03,450 --> 02:50:07,510
I so move. Do we have a second? Second.

1708
02:50:09,960 --> 02:50:10,940
All in favor?

1709
02:50:10,940 --> 02:50:14,560
Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye.

1710
02:50:16,760 --> 02:50:16,960
Aye.

1711
02:50:17,040 --> 02:50:17,720
Is unanimous.

1712
02:50:28,740 --> 02:50:29,440
Think with that.

1713
02:50:31,700 --> 02:50:32,600
We're adjourned.