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Meeting of the more part city council for Wednesday, December 20, 2006. Call the meeting to order at this time and ask John Brand, if he would lead us please in the Pledge of Allegiance. Please rise.

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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

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Thank you, Mr. Brand, would the clerk call the roll, please.

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Council Member Micahs.

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Present.

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Council Member Milhoff.

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Present.

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Council Member Parvin.

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Present.

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Council Member Van Dam.

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Present.

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Mayor Hunter.

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Present.

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Item 4 on the agenda is proclamations and commendations.

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We have two, and I'll step down for those.

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Okay.

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Our first presentation this evening is a proclamation recognizing December 21, 2006 as National Homeless Persons Memorial Day.

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And with this this evening is Kate Mills from the Ventura County Health Care for the Homeless Program.

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Ms. Mills, if you join me, please.

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I'd like to read the proclamation if I can.

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This is a proclamation of the City Council

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of the City of More Park proclaiming December 21st, 2006,

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as National Homeless Persons Memorial Day,

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whereas the winter poses extreme hardship

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for inadequately housed low-income men, women, and children,

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and whereas the spirit of the holiday season of giving

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provides an opportunity for affirmation and renewal

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regarding the commitment to end homelessness,

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And whereas December 21st has been designated National Homeless Person's Memorial Day

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by the National Coalition for the Homeless and the National Health Center for the Homeless

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Council and is so recognized by City's nationwide.

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And whereas in the season of generosity and sharing, citizens of more Parker encouraged

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to commit themselves to promoting compassion and concern, especially for those who are

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poor and homeless.

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And whereas remembering those who have died on the streets, the cause of ending homelessness

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is kept urgent as the city's collective commitment to preventing such deaths in the future.

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Now, therefore, be it resolved that the City Council of the City of More Park does

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fare by proclaim December 21, 2006 as National Homeless Persons Memorial Day.

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Witness whereup, the City Council of the City of More Park does set its hand in class the

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seal of the City of More Park to be affixed on the 20th of December 2006.

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I'd like to thank you on behalf of the multiple public and private entities that have been providing homeless services throughout the years, and on behalf of the estimated 6,000 homeless throughout our county.

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who have actually experienced the loss of friends through homeless-related conditions.

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I'd like to congratulate your council on joining over 100 different cities throughout the nation

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and recognizing December 21st as National Homeless Persons Memorial Day.

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And I'd also like to invite all of our citizens to participate with us tomorrow, December 21st,

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which is the first day of winter and the longest night of the year, in recognizing those

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who have died of homeless-related conditions.

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And we'll do this with a very simple tribute to them by recognizing at 3 o'clock a moment

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of silence, actually 60 seconds of silence.

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We're also asking our faith communities to toll their bells

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during that same period of time.

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So it's 3 o'clock in the afternoon, 60 seconds of silence

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on behalf of those who have died of homeless related conditions.

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Thank you very much for your time.

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Thank you.

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Next, we'd like to take an opportunity

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to introduce one of our newest employees, Roger Blaze.

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Roger, if you'd join me, please.

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Mr.

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Roger Blays has been appointed to the position of Parks and Landscape Manager for

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the City of Moorpark.

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Roger received a Bachelor of Arts degree in public administration from the University of

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LeBern.

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He is a member of the California Urban Forest Council, a certified arborist, a licensed state

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to call off.

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California landscape contractor and a state of California pest control advisor. For the past four

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years, Roger worked as an assistant regional supervisor in the County of Los Angeles

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Parks Department. He's also worked as the manager of landscaping at Universal Studios in Hollywood,

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as well as Park Supervisor for the City of West Covenants. When he has the opportunity to do so,

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Roger enjoys fishing and working on home improvement projects. He's excited about the opportunity

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to return to local government and look forward to improving the quality of life in the city of Morpark.

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Would you please join me in welcoming Roger to his new position.

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Mr. CUNY, Honorable Mayor, members of the City Council, I'm very delighted to be a part of the Morpark family.

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My first three weeks here, I've been practically overwhelmed as a public servant with the generosity

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and what I've seen in terms of

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getting acclimated to the spirit of the

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more park community on behalf of staff.

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I'd like to share with you one of my

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personal map goals for the city,

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and that is to bring a renewed

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interest in sustainable forestry,

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stimulate community awareness with

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sustainable parks, and be a lead

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runner in being thin step with the

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vision of the City Council in promoting a new feeling of community and city

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escape in terms of what we offer. I'm very impressed with the appearance, the

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quality of our parks. The graffiti is almost not present coming from Los Angeles.

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I can really appreciate that. So I'm very happy to be part of this staff and look

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forward in making a contribution. Thank you very much.

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Next is the City Manager's monthly report, Mr. Cutie?

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Yes, thank you, Mr. Mayor. This month, John Brand, senior management analyst, and our emergency management coordinator,

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will provide a briefing on the recent Shackle Fire incident.

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Thank you, Mayor and members of the council.

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If I can have the light stemmed and the projector turned on, please.

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I'd like to thank Sheriff Bob Ropes and the Venturi County Office of Emergency Services

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for the assistance in preparing this slide presentation.

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As you know, on December 3rd, about 2.30 in the morning, a fire broke out in your Shekland

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Broadway.

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That's just a few miles north and west of Mar Park.

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And immediately, resources were activated.

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about 6.30 in the morning, a second fire broke out just a few miles north east of

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Morpark, not creating two fires on the two northernly corners of the city. This expanded

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the area of concern and the command post at station 57 in Somers held its first briefing

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of the gathered agencies at about eight o'clock in the morning. One of the first things

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that was requested, the city of Moorpark was if the command post could be moved to a

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royalistic community park arrangements were made.

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By this time at 0730, Hugh Raleigh had activated the city emergency operations center.

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I was at the command post for the briefing and preparations were made to move the incident

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command post or ICP to a royalistic community park.

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These are some of the agencies that were involved under the law branch of the response at the Incident Command Post,

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as you can see that involved several supporting agencies as well as the Sheriff's Department.

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The Emergency Operations Center, the EOC, was activated in Moorpark at 720 in the morning,

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and the county EOC was co-located in the City EOC in Moorpark.

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This arrangement did greatly enhance response and communications between the field incident command post, the city and the county players.

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This incidentally is the first time in Richard County history that the county OES has located their emergency operation center in a city, UMC.

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Evacuations were immediately called for the conditions on that morning for extremely hazardous.

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There were winds averaging 30-40 miles an hour with up to 70 miles per hour gusts and extremely low humidity in the single digits, 3-7% humidity.

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The west of more park and the whole maker's area. The evacuations were precautionary, which is a recommendation that you evacuate, if you can, or you immediately prepare to evacuate very soon, and also recommended evacuations. And a recommended evacuation is perhaps more serious than people might initially think. That is the last warning that is going to be provided by public service agencies. And the recommendation is that you leave and you leave now. And those issues were ordered.

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and various areas affecting about 250 homes in more park.

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There were shelters set up by the Red Cross or Royal High School in Seamy Valley,

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where 12 people remained overnight,

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and 1,000 folks at the community center were 7 people remained overnight.

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We also, through county animal regulation,

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were able to evacuate several large animals to the Ventura County Fairgrounds

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and other locations.

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We evacuated 55 horses, one donkey, pigs, water buffalo, camels, and a 600 pound tortoise as well as a miniature horse.

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Some of the sheriff personnel involved include 14 of the tactical response team deputies,

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the patrol deputies, and 22 search and rescue volunteers, SAR, and two SAR sworn deputies.

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Also free public information officers and two Office of Emergency Services

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representatives from the Sheriff's Office of Emergency Services.

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This gives you an idea of the fire personnel involved.

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There were 235 engines, 41 crews, 14 bulldozers, 18 water tenders,

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over 1,700 fire staff from dozens and dozens of agencies throughout California,

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10 helicopters and 8 air tankers involved in response.

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Sheriff, air rescue resources were used to do air drops of water on Sunday and they were on standby on Monday.

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And the ongoing activities, the city emergency declaration, emergency declaration made Monday morning and then a firm by council at its next meeting on December 6th.

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And the state governor signed an emergency proclamation early Monday.

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And I'd also like to point out that the State Office of Emergency Representative from

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the Governor's Office also located with us in the Morpark, EOC, worked up very well.

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Fire and damage assessment teams continue to identify victims' incident costs and damages.

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Here's just a graphical representation of the Burden area.

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And it's pointing to the two locations where the fire is starting.

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The left arrow is pointing to the Shekho road area and then upper happy camp with a second

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fire erupted a couple hours later.

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Here are some images from the fire that were taken by the press and local residents.

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This is a Sherosho helicopter doing a water draw.

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Here is a view from outer space from courtesy of NASA who has, it's not visible there, it's

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notice rapid response team and when an incident occurs,

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they're able to direct a satellite on his next pass

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to do the photograph.

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This was taken about 12, 25 PM shortly afternoon

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and it shows the plume coming from the,

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the Sheffield fire out over the Pacific Ocean.

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This is the, the fire, this is the 8th city area fully engaged.

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There's some of those flames are over 30 feet high.

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This is taking a more parking, roughly the Cambridge campus park area looking, I believe

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up towards Happy Camp and the Rustic Canyon golf course area.

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That same general vicinity and again the flames and residents are apparently evacuated.

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These are crews from a local fire station of 42 working the fire in the one-way canyon

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area I believe.

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These are some residents who are on a rooftop observing the fire, and I included this slide

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for two reasons.

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I want to show you, give you an idea of just how strong the winds were, and also to

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remind everyone that climbing up on the roof to observe the fire is not a good idea.

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Here is a fixed-wing air tanker doing a drop of the fire retardant.

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This is back over by the college, and this is a more-proc residents engaged in fully

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engulfed in flames. And there is a firefighter. You can see a silhouette there in the foreground.

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Here again, you see a firefighter in the foreground. A member of a hand crew, he's working the

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the fire. Can't quite tell whether he is using a hand tool, he might be setting a backfire at this point.

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But again, you can see just how dangerous it is for the firefighters when they're out there working

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Thank you for being with these conditions. Here's an aerial view taking that shows some of the agricultural damage that was done by the fire. They're that band of light colored trees, of course, have been scorched. And then you can see some some burned ones in the middle. And also indicates how valuable the fire department resources were applied to protect residents and agricultural resources.

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in the county.

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Again, it's inspired. This is very close to home as you can see in the lower left

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the fence, the backyard, and this is a green bell barrier burning near just below the rustic canning

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country club. This is a train operating on schedule. By Monday morning, while we were still putting out

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hot spots, local services continued as normal. The trains operated on the normal schedule as they

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of course, the city buses, and the Metrolin trains operated with only 10-minute delays.

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Although just a few hours earlier, Sunday evening, some of the railroad ties along these

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tracks near Point Dexter were actually ablaze, as late as 8 o'clock in the evening, but

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Metrolin got crews out there that worked through the night in order to keep the trains operating.

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And that concludes the presentation.

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If you have any questions, Deputy Chief Scott Hall from the Major Accounting Fire Department

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is here, as well as Captain Manson and myself.

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Thank you very much.

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We are, unfortunately, getting very good at managing these kinds of emergencies, unfortunately,

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but thank you for all of your work.

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There were, and are probably too many agencies to try and thank at this point, the hundreds

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of volunteers.

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I know that there were restaurants, Starbucks, wood ranch, a host of others to send food

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to be emergency operation center and just a support by the volunteer throughout the community

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is very overwhelming in a crisis like this.

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Coincidentally, the city has received two awards for its work in emergency management.

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If you could summarize those, John, I think that would be very helpful for the council as

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well.

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Yes, thank you.

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A local emergency services organization, the business and industry council for emergency

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emergency preparedness and planning was recently honored the City of More Park's Emergency

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Operations Center and gave it a word of recognition for the co-location of the Emergency Operations

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Center with the More Park Police, the Venture County Sheriff's, and the California Highway

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Patrol in the first instance of co-location of these public service agencies and emergency

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to response facilities in California.

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And secondly, the city's special need

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for registry for emergency evacuation assistance.

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We received a special award from BICEP,

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the acronym for the Business and Industry Council.

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Special need for registry is for persons

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who may need evacuation assistance

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in situations such as these fires.

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And the list was very helpful in checking

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the affected streets and the persons

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questions who are in the registry.

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Thank you very much.

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You had a question, staff, Dr. Michaels?

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Yeah, John, do you think that you could tell the people at home if they might need special

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evaluation and have not yet signed on to the special registry, who they should call to

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get signed on so that we would know about them if we had a future emergency?

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Yes, thank you.

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It's easy to register for the special needs registry.

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You can just call City Hall at 517-6248 and I'll answer the phone or leave me a voice

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mail and we'll get you signed up to sleep your name and address our email and I'll send

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you the application.

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It's a very simple one-page form that needs to be filled out so we can enter the information

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or the database.

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All right.

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It's strictly voluntary but it's a nice safety valve for people that might be in danger

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and might not be able to get out themselves

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if they do have special needs.

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Good job, John.

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Thank you, John.

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Thank you to staff as well

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who made the Emergency Operations Center

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over the weekend appreciate their help as well.

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We have the questions at this point.

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Mayor Hunter.

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This is Carmen.

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A question with regard to, I'm wondering if there are

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any reports of what to call lucky lures

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because in our neighborhood, and I'm sure Rosanne

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probably had it too, a lot of people from out of town

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wanted to see the fires real close

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So they were filling our neighborhoods up with cars, people making it was really exciting

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and fun and a lot of laughter.

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And I'm wondering if there is anybody, any reports of those types of people getting in

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the way of the firefighters?

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Yes, I believe Captain Madison can explain our response.

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Oftentimes during disasters we have to deal with the looky-loos who want to see what's going on,

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and particularly when the...

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There's an air drop campaign in fires. We have a lot of people who often get in the way of emergency response vehicles. And we have to move them out of the area. It's, I know about a year ago in the old park. We have that same problem with the fire. And we actually had to probably chase away about 100 people from the area just so we could get the emergency vehicles and the fire trucks and the hand crews out there.

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So they often slow down our response

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Anything else at this point. Thank you John very much job well done

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Item five is public comment for the council

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Item six is the reordering of an additions to the agenda

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Mr. Mayor, I would like to micos. I'd like to pull items 10 D and 10 J from the consent calendar when we get there

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D and J

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There

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we go.

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Item 7 is announcements and future agenda items.

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Any comments from staff at this point? No, Mr. Mayor.

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We have no public hearings. Item 9 is presentation action discussion items.

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The first is item 9a. Consider presentations from candidates for the Arts Commission, Parks

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and Recreation Commission and the Planning Commission. This is trap instead. Good evening.

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Mayor Hunter and the City Council members in response to the City Council's request. We have

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invited the candidates for Arts Commission, Parks and Recreation Commission, and Planning Commission

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here this evening. Those of who could make it. And we have the names available. I guess

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we will be calling them one by one, Mayor Hunter. That's a three minutes is what we've informed

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from them by letter was available and I guess we're ready to go.

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This is a new process I think that was proposed by Mr. Millhouse to give the entire council

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the opportunity to hear from the candidates.

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Oftentimes we don't have time to individually interview candidates.

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So Mr. Millhouse has proposed that we hear from the candidates collectively and they have,

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as Mr. Straffin said, been invited to come down and speak to their qualifications.

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of the position they seek.

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We have a number as you might imagine.

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Some candidates have indicated that they could not be present

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tonight, and that will not affect their participation

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in the process.

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Nonetheless, there are a number of candidates tonight.

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As Mrs. Traffinst said, we are going

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to ask the candidates to keep their remarks

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to the three-minute time limit because of the number

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of candidates involved.

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So, we will have a timer, please don't place this in the position of having to rush you out, but we would like to keep you to the greatest extent possible to the three minute time time frame.

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Any from the council before we proceed?

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Okay, Dr. Michaels?

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For those who couldn't come, they could still come on the 17th or whatever and do the same thing, right?

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Yes, and so and staff we're going to be letting them know that or what how will we we'd like clarification

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I think at the last meeting the intent was the appointment would be considered on the

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17th so it'd be our understanding that if they felt the need to address the council they would need to do that under public comment. Yes

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Okay, well, I mean that yeah, I'm just thinking that it should give them at least another opportunity

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For the night that we would do the appointments. Yes

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Mr. Mayor, since you've put this all on me, for better or worse, first of all, I wanted

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to thank all the applicants who were able to attend tonight.

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As a Mayor indicated, one of the frustrations is that we don't all get a chance to meet when

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you would be very logistically difficult and for our current commissioners, it's nice

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to have you included in the process.

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We're all familiar with you.

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We're all familiar with the fine work and the things that you've done.

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I think this is something that we're going to try and see if it works, you know, great

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if it needs refinement, so be that as well.

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But there's a lot of talented individuals in the community who don't get a chance to meet

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everybody.

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So for more, I think for us to get a chance to know the new people since we need some of

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the old people in action and give you a chance to tell us about yourself.

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So thank you.

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More experienced people in that.

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It's my understanding we were going to begin with the arts commission applicants and we're going an alphabetical order and the first is Gene Amador.

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Good evening. Welcome. Nice to have you.

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Thank you. My name is Jean Amitor and I used to be whittles, so I was in the back of the room now I get to the front. I'm an architect by profession and I've worked. Doing my architecture for municipal projects and bringing also commercial and city projects before meeting council meetings and commissions. Even the Los Angeles Arts Commission, I've even been before them presenting architectural projects to go through.

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My new endeavor is opening an art gallery here in more parking the last three months and that has been an amazing experience.

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I don't know if everybody knows how many artists you have in this community.

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They just keep coming every day. I need a new artist and we've got that exhibit.

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This is my flood line up all next year so you can come by and see me over there.

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The thing about doing art is I've been having that in my life since the very beginning,

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winning my first award in junior high at the library and moving on there and becoming

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an architect and to really take advantage of that and then continue with my art classes

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always taking some kind of an art form to keep, not because I have to, but because I just

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love to do it. And I think I have the ability to both be making decisions whether something

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appeals to myself as well as how does it fit within the larger context because of my practice

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that I've had and the diversity of type of work that I do. A couple of years ago I was

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asked to design an art gallery for the community colleges. Sadly it was finished and they didn't

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actually build it because they ran out of funding for that type of project and switched it to something else, probably administration building or such.

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But that sparked that working with the artist was such an joy for me.

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So I enjoyed doing that.

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And that's pretty much what I'm doing now and thought I'd step it up a little and work with the city.

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And I've met most of you already and come to be with you and see the city that I'm working in every day from day

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break until the end. How it's coming along. That's it.

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You work with the community colleges, was that in Ventura County?

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I haven't done work in Ventura County, I'm on the approved list too, but I'm mostly

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in LA County. And the type of work I do there at the colleges, I do work at CLU, finished

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our last residence hall, and working on projects that are renovating different buildings

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throughout the campus and a lot of schools and worked a lot for the City of

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Thousand Oaks, part of the previous mayor. Very good. Thank you very much. Thank

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you for being here. Thank you. Now you got to go out of the way now. You can sit

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back and relax. Clint Harper. I think the council is relatively familiar with

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Dr. Harper, although I don't think he could be here this evening. Ralph Morello I

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think has indicated that he had a commitment and could not be with us.

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We also got a letter from her saying that she was sorry she had another commitment.

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Christiane Rahal,

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Dennis Swinburne, and Derby Shields.

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For the Parks and Recreation Commission, I know Joe Katrinbon is here.

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Mr. Katrinbon, good evening.

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make

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a request to the City Council that I be reappointed through the Parks and

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Recreation Commission. We over the past couple of years that I've been on to

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commission. We've done some significant improvements to the parks and

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Rilla Camposina. We put a basketball court in there. We've upgraded the soccer

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field, put in new tables and benches, trash cans, and I forgot to marry that thing that

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hangs and he ate it with the baseball bag.

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For the autumn?

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Yes.

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For parks.

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There's a lot to be done yet.

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We have the expansion of Point Extra Park.

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We have some ideas on what we want to do there.

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We have the new park on Charles Street that behind the fire station, it will be a brand new park for the downtown area.

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And we have some ideas what we want to do there.

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And new equipment for a lot of the other parks that have in the past couple of years, the equipment is somewhat deteriorated and it requires new equipment.

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a royal vista.

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Tom Flummer's favorite project, possibly a community pool. And also, we have a great interest in a skate park.

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We were going to do it or we're thought about doing it a poindex to park, but we had a little resistance from the neighbors. So we're looking at the back end of a row of this to do that. Like I say, there's a lot to do. And I'd like to be considered as one of the individuals.

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to take care of these projects.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Scott, is it Kudelink?

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Good evening, sir.

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And you're also an applicant for the Planning Commission, is that correct?

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That's right.

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Okay.

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Hope I don't appear greedy.

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Not at all.

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I'll call you back for that.

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When we go through the Planning Commission, applicants as well.

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Good evening.

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Good evening.

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I am a resident of Moore Park.

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I have been for about five years.

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I moved out here when I retired.

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I lived in Pacific Palisades, most of my life.

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I move out to this area to be close to my six grandchildren.

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As my application indicates, I've been an executive and a participant and a director of several

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major corporations in the U.S. and in Los Angeles.

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As to community service, I have done some work for the United Way in Los Angeles County.

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I headed up their audit committee for several years as to activity that might be pertinent

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to parks.

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I've been very active in the Cannehal Valley Botanic Garden down in Thousand Oaks since

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I moved out here.

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My wife is a board member and I've tried to give them some assistance in improving the

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33 acres that they have, giving them some more financial stability, getting donations,

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approving the irrigation and the maintenance of the property but working closely with the City of Thousand Oaks and their parks department.

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So that's why I was interested in perhaps providing some community service to the parks commission in this city.

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Beyond that, I grew up on the Mexican border, so I do speak mextex. I don't know if that would be analogous to the position or not.

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And as my application indicates, I have been a partner in an international CPA firm

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in the past also.

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Questions?

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Thank you for being here.

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Thank you.

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Brad Lawson,

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Dr. V. Schmolley,

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Richard Stratton,

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Sandra Thompson,

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good evening.

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Good evening.

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I want to thank you for having me here tonight, giving me the opportunity to speak with you.

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The reason I'm here, I've been on our commission for over 15 years, that's as much as I will

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fuss up to, but it grew out of a passion for the city.

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We moved here the last day of 1982, so that we can claim 1982, but since 1983, we became

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varied with four children, I became very involved in youth sports, and that is where I got my

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The seat of community service and volunteering was through more park away, so the SICO Striders group and found what a wonderful organization it was to provide for our kids.

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That got me involved with our parks and what a journey it's been since I've been on our commission.

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I'm the one you were talking about, Mr. Hunter, about being old commissioner.

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When I first joined the commission, we had five city parks, so the name more park

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didn't quite apply to our city.

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I'm proud now that we're 15 parks strong with two on the way, and I'm very excited about.

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And so my passion still burns strongly.

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Not only have our parks grown, also our community program, the programming within the Recreation

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Department has grown quite a bit to where we offer so many different program classes that

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people can take.

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Our city events, our people come from miles away to attend our 3rd of July as we're the

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Nations independent.

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I'm very proud to be associated with the work that the commission has done in hand with city council and staff.

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Part of the wonderful thing of being on the commission is the self-growth that it's enabled me to have. The city has sent us on many, many training conferences that I've probably attended and it's kept us on the cutting edge of providing our community with many innovative programs.

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programs like More Park After Dark and our teen program, I think it's top notch.

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I think we're very tuned into meeting the needs of our community and I think that's

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what's nice about More Park, although we have grown so much since I've moved here, we're

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still small town enough to where I can discuss parts with people in the grocery store.

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We're all with our city TV channel, we're all very approachable and I think that's great.

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I've had the opportunity to serve on a statewide level on the California, we call it Kabarq.

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I'm California Association of Park and Recreation Commissioners and Board Members, as a board member.

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And I hope you'll consider me.

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We'll wind that up.

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Any questions?

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Thank you.

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Thanks.

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And

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Julie Weissberger could not be with us this evening, Tom Flommer, I know it's here, Mr. Flommer, good

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evening.

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Good evening.

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First of all, I'd like to thank you all for Mayor Hunter, council members, and the city staff with this opportunity to reply for the parking rights.

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First of all, I want to tell you I've been on board park residents since 1986, and I've been on a registered voter since I was 21.

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So you get that under the belt here.

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Let's see, my qualifications, I was a certified lifeguard when I was young, I trained children

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with WSI, water safety instruction, college degree, I'm a licensed real estate broker focusing

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in more mortgages and a notary.

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Now I have been appointed for the parking lot for three previous terms, which equals

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last six years. And I really enjoyed my job, but my goal here, my interest for being

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reappointed, dates back to the early days when I was a coach for the more part girl's

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00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:45,180
softball. I started off as coaching with my youngest daughter. And went to my youngest

448
00:37:45,180 --> 00:37:50,880
annals as daughter and came on the board and went to AYSO and I was a referee and a coach

449
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:55,540
and club soccer and I was involved with that. I was interacted with all the youth sports

450
00:37:55,540 --> 00:38:00,800
for many years. And instrumental in working with the city at one time putting in a softball field

451
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:09,920
that we donated for the city. So my roots go way back. But one goal that when I was approached

452
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:15,000
and I wanted to become a parking rick's commissioner was to have a community pool in the city of Moorpark

453
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:24,560
as you all know. I've heard many times. Well my goal hasn't been fulfilled yet so I decided to reapply

454
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:30,740
for parking rx and keep pushing and and swaying opinions and see if we can do it in the next few years

455
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:36,800
and by the way after six years I have more or less think that I'm out trained by now so I'd like

456
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:42,680
to keep the position. Oh that's about it. Are there any questions? Questions with Mr. Flower?

457
00:38:43,780 --> 00:38:45,440
Thank you. Thank you sir.

458
00:38:47,910 --> 00:38:50,210
Okay that is the list of

459
00:38:50,210 --> 00:38:54,650
of Parks and Recreation Commission Applicants

460
00:38:55,890 --> 00:38:58,050
and moving on to the Planning Commission.

461
00:38:58,450 --> 00:38:59,910
I know Jay Bauer could not be with us

462
00:38:59,910 --> 00:39:01,650
as evening the council has received something

463
00:39:01,650 --> 00:39:02,830
on behalf of Mr. Bauer.

464
00:39:03,730 --> 00:39:05,230
Mark Chekko, I know is here.

465
00:39:05,350 --> 00:39:06,030
Mr. Chekko.

466
00:39:17,100 --> 00:39:17,420
Really?

467
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:21,120
Thank you very much for this opportunity once again.

468
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:26,540
I'm gonna be real brief and rather than talking about

469
00:39:26,540 --> 00:39:28,060
what has happened in Moore Park,

470
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:29,900
I'm gonna talk about a little bit about what I've done

471
00:39:29,900 --> 00:39:32,400
and outside of Moore Park, which is really a stretch

472
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,440
for an architect talking about himself, you know.

473
00:39:35,820 --> 00:39:39,520
For those who don't know me, I've lived here since 1991.

474
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:42,740
I've been a business owner in Moore Park since 1996.

475
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:46,520
I've been in the design and construction industry

476
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:47,260
for 30 years.

477
00:39:47,420 --> 00:39:48,960
Yes, I am one of those old people.

478
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,040
License architect in three states,

479
00:39:52,300 --> 00:39:55,140
currently candidate for licensure in two additional ones.

480
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,480
Again, I've had my own architectural practice since 1988.

481
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:29,160
Again, located more park for the last 10 years. Currently, our office works a lot on urban planning projects, which I believe fits in kind of with what we're doing. We do anything from small infill projects and big cities development to larger new communities in other states, not in more park. We've been through the process. We've taken projects through the entitlement, entitlement process and other communities all the way throughout the state of California. I'm currently the town planner for River Park.

482
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:36,280
And Oxnard, which is pretty much the largest smart growth project in Ventura County currently

483
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:41,880
or anytime in the future as far as we know, I sit in the Development Advisory Committee

484
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:49,600
for the City of Oxnard, so I understand how to read plans at this point, I think, which

485
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:54,680
also gives us some experience with developers, with homeowners, and with policymakers and how

486
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:56,660
they all try to intertwine between the two.

487
00:40:56,660 --> 00:41:01,660
For those who don't know, have a Bachelor of Architecture degree which included a year of

488
00:41:01,660 --> 00:41:03,000
study in Copenhagen, Denmark.

489
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:09,120
Every two years I go to Harvard to study smart growth, traditional neighborhood design,

490
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,340
community planning, housing design.

491
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:19,040
I'm usually attend all the regional conferences, the local conferences on growth, on transportation,

492
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:20,280
affordable housing.

493
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:27,000
I've attended pretty much all of the planning commissioners' conferences for the last eight years.

494
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:35,580
As far as community service, we do pro bono projects pretty much all year long, and pretty

495
00:41:35,580 --> 00:41:40,720
much we focus on venture accounting, we've done habitat for humanity projects, homemade projects,

496
00:41:40,940 --> 00:41:47,620
boys and girls' club. We're currently redesigning pro bono, the seven-street facility in Oxnard.

497
00:41:49,720 --> 00:41:54,220
I've been had the distinct pleasure of being a planning commissioner since February 4,

498
00:41:55,780 --> 00:41:58,260
1998, with some of you as well, with some of you.

499
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:03,560
Why I want to be a commissioner again, and I know I'm running out of time, a desire to

500
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:08,560
help the city achieve its goals as it matures, a desire to maintain the quality of life while

501
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:13,580
still providing a place for our kids to actually grow up and live here, and we want to give

502
00:42:13,580 --> 00:42:19,460
something back to the community that allowed me to raise my kids. And frankly, it's the right thing to do.

503
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:26,240
And again, it's been an honor to serve the city of Moorpark. It's been an honor to work with the existing commissioners.

504
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:32,000
And I would ask that you seriously consider reappointing them. Thank you very much.

505
00:42:32,340 --> 00:42:35,400
Thank you. Any questions? Thank you, sir. Thank you.

506
00:42:37,060 --> 00:42:38,540
To reach the Hegman Lawson,

507
00:42:43,140 --> 00:42:44,020
good evening.

508
00:42:50,250 --> 00:42:52,970
One of the contenders told me there's a height restriction for this position.

509
00:42:53,330 --> 00:42:53,890
Oh, no.

510
00:42:54,610 --> 00:42:55,890
I'm always out of the running.

511
00:42:57,250 --> 00:43:00,490
Thank you, Mayor Hunter, council members, and city staff for this opportunity.

512
00:43:03,250 --> 00:43:08,390
I'd like to present to myself in hopes that some of my professional career aligns

513
00:43:08,390 --> 00:43:09,850
with the Planning Commission has in mind.

514
00:43:10,330 --> 00:43:16,690
I had a 23-year history, professional career history, and mortgage banking, but not in the

515
00:43:16,690 --> 00:43:17,610
loan side.

516
00:43:18,530 --> 00:43:21,410
Mine was in working with city officials.

517
00:43:21,570 --> 00:43:22,850
My first five years were internal audit.

518
00:43:23,410 --> 00:43:27,310
I audited 24 departments in the bank for the bank in New York, worked in with the bank

519
00:43:27,310 --> 00:43:28,050
here for 10 years.

520
00:43:29,470 --> 00:43:33,090
For 12 of my first years in banking, I was a compliance officer.

521
00:43:33,430 --> 00:43:37,710
During that time, I went to law school and got a law degree, and specialized in consumer

522
00:43:37,710 --> 00:43:38,950
for lending law and real estate law.

523
00:43:40,070 --> 00:43:47,550
From that point on, I went into construction lending, rehabilitation lending, infill, block

524
00:43:47,550 --> 00:43:49,810
rehabilitation in around the country.

525
00:43:51,270 --> 00:43:56,510
Most recently I was responsible for about $2.6 billion of construction projects and this

526
00:43:56,510 --> 00:43:58,850
was at one time in 34 states.

527
00:44:00,210 --> 00:44:07,130
So I'm fairly well versed in the construction project, plans and specs, the relationship

528
00:44:07,130 --> 00:44:13,770
management that's involved in the complex process involved and getting construction going

529
00:44:13,770 --> 00:44:20,190
and some stage are dealing with the Department of Energy, the Department of Insurance, I have

530
00:44:20,190 --> 00:44:25,970
so much respect for the process and what's involved many years involved with it.

531
00:44:27,450 --> 00:44:31,730
The reason that I like to be involved in this particular commission is because I think

532
00:44:31,730 --> 00:44:41,630
I think that there's some synergy between my career and the relationships I have and how I can dovetail into our city, and I'm a long standing member, and I love more part.

533
00:44:42,970 --> 00:44:48,190
I think you probably know more about me than other commissioners just recently ran you for council. Congratulations Mark.

534
00:44:50,150 --> 00:44:52,630
And so I don't know that I have much more to offer than that.

535
00:44:53,170 --> 00:44:56,870
Are there any questions? Thank you for being here.

536
00:44:57,390 --> 00:44:57,770
Thank you.

537
00:45:00,850 --> 00:45:04,050
Bruce, is it Hamas? Good evening, sir.

538
00:45:09,330 --> 00:45:35,470
Welcome. Thank you very much. I'd like to thank the mayor and the city council for allowing me to opportunity to present myself for a position on the planning commission. I'm married and we have one son who's currently in the 7th grade in Miss Liberty. We've lived in more parks since 1992 and just to give you a little background of myself. I hold a bachelor of science degree in business and finance from the universe.

539
00:45:35,470 --> 00:45:39,350
University of Houston with a major in real estate and a minor in accounting.

540
00:45:40,110 --> 00:45:46,390
The license real estate broker in the state of California, and I hold a professional national designation.

541
00:45:46,390 --> 00:45:54,170
They certified commercial investment member or CCIM designation, which is a legally recognized expert in real estate.

542
00:45:55,470 --> 00:46:01,890
Some of my work background includes as a commercial appraisal for a couple of years in Houston.

543
00:46:01,890 --> 00:46:07,670
I also work with a developer corporation in Houston where we built condos and industrial

544
00:46:07,670 --> 00:46:09,830
buildings in various states.

545
00:46:10,330 --> 00:46:17,910
I moved to California in 1986, and again, I was in a real estate freezer in Newport Beach

546
00:46:17,910 --> 00:46:18,730
for a couple of years.

547
00:46:19,410 --> 00:46:25,630
Then I joined a development company in West Los Angeles where we developed apartments, condos,

548
00:46:27,210 --> 00:46:28,710
retail, raw land.

549
00:46:28,710 --> 00:46:38,650
And in 1989, my wife and I started a company called Hamis Investments, and we still own

550
00:46:38,650 --> 00:46:41,230
and operate three locations in Southern California.

551
00:46:41,930 --> 00:46:45,550
My wife is the main runner of that company right now.

552
00:46:46,770 --> 00:46:53,150
And since 2002, I have practiced commercial real estate brokers with a company in West Lake

553
00:46:53,150 --> 00:46:54,370
Village, West Court commercial.

554
00:46:55,490 --> 00:47:00,890
My area of specialization is in a Goura Thousand Oaks in West Lake Village, where I negotiate

555
00:47:00,890 --> 00:47:06,310
leases of office and retail and I represent clients for the purchase and sale of real property.

556
00:47:09,450 --> 00:47:14,930
With 25 years of real estate experience, I'd like to be seriously considered for a position

557
00:47:15,710 --> 00:47:16,970
as a planning commissioner.

558
00:47:17,730 --> 00:47:22,550
I've lived here in Moore Park for the last 14 years or so and I've seen a lot of changes.

559
00:47:22,550 --> 00:47:26,550
is more park is going to continue to grow and I'd like to contribute some of my time

560
00:47:26,550 --> 00:47:27,850
and energy to its growth.

561
00:47:29,210 --> 00:47:32,550
There are many issues that are going to be facing the near future, imminent domain,

562
00:47:33,390 --> 00:47:39,170
redevelopment areas, infield development projects, new home development, affordable housing,

563
00:47:40,830 --> 00:47:44,030
office retail, industrial development, all very important.

564
00:47:44,870 --> 00:47:48,050
And I'd like to contribute some of my time toward that.

565
00:47:48,510 --> 00:47:49,150
Thank you very much.

566
00:47:49,890 --> 00:47:50,690
Thank you for being here.

567
00:47:50,690 --> 00:47:51,710
Thank you for your patience.

568
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:55,260
Scott Kruele.

569
00:48:06,020 --> 00:48:06,680
Evening again.

570
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:13,460
I applied to the Planning Commission because I have extensive background in construction auditing.

571
00:48:14,220 --> 00:48:20,160
I have audited all over the United States on construction projects as well as internationally.

572
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,200
I think every continent except Antarctica.

573
00:48:24,620 --> 00:48:31,060
So I am rather familiar with construction expenses, zoning laws,

574
00:48:31,060 --> 00:48:35,920
things of that nature. I've even gone to courts with clients where they had problems.

575
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:42,660
I've also coincidentally dealt with some of the contractors who have the major projects

576
00:48:42,660 --> 00:48:49,000
for home development in this area. Party construction is an old client of mine, so I'm rather familiar

577
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:55,780
with that firm. It is interesting in talking to some of the major developers in this area,

578
00:48:55,780 --> 00:49:04,280
They tell me that the building codes in Moore Park are some of the most stringent that they've encountered, which please this mean no end.

579
00:49:05,380 --> 00:49:14,480
Grace don't even tell me that they don't choose to continue construction in this city because they feel the building codes are too stringent.

580
00:49:15,940 --> 00:49:23,220
That, I think, is a positive factor because I've seen some very shotty construction in

581
00:49:23,220 --> 00:49:25,020
the United States and all over the world.

582
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:33,020
Since I have a couple of seconds, just a light aside, as I said, I've done construction

583
00:49:33,020 --> 00:49:39,100
auditing internationally, even in the old Belgian Congo, and one of the things I had to do there

584
00:49:39,100 --> 00:49:44,460
was talk to the witch doctors about the concerns they had for a major copper development

585
00:49:44,460 --> 00:49:50,380
that was going on. I had to take security guards with me to talk to them because they had

586
00:49:50,380 --> 00:49:59,520
some guerrilla activity in the area recently and I was considered a white devil. So it was

587
00:49:59,520 --> 00:49:59,980
is rather an ...

588
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:10,080
Interesting experience. I've also owned a construction company. I've done real estate appraisal, so I'm rather familiar with the subject. Questions?

589
00:50:12,620 --> 00:50:29,460
I have a question. Since you applied for both positions, which one would be your preference? You know, it doesn't make any difference to me. I'm just looking to provide some community service. I honestly don't have any preference. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

590
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:32,240
Kip Landis.

591
00:50:41,210 --> 00:50:41,750
Good evening.

592
00:50:41,990 --> 00:50:44,830
Members of the City Council staff, those are the audience public.

593
00:50:45,810 --> 00:50:46,450
I'm Kip Landis.

594
00:50:46,610 --> 00:50:48,510
I, most of you should know me.

595
00:50:48,610 --> 00:50:50,390
I guess I've been on the planning commission now for eight years.

596
00:50:52,510 --> 00:50:56,550
I, I came on the planning commission 1999, I'd lived in more park since 1995.

597
00:50:57,970 --> 00:50:59,430
My wife and I chose more park.

598
00:50:59,910 --> 00:51:04,910
I remember looking back at my original application, saying this is the town I wanted to live

599
00:51:04,910 --> 00:51:08,850
into raise a family, we didn't have a family at the time, now we have two kids, Quint

600
00:51:08,850 --> 00:51:10,210
five and Chetra's turn four.

601
00:51:12,810 --> 00:51:17,250
And this is the kind of commuter we wanted because we wanted a small town atmosphere.

602
00:51:17,890 --> 00:51:21,930
I grew up in North County San Diego, which at the time growing up, it was the fastest growing

603
00:51:21,930 --> 00:51:22,990
area in California.

604
00:51:23,970 --> 00:51:28,370
And as a kid, I was real concerned about the growth issues that were facing our city, and

605
00:51:28,370 --> 00:51:29,950
I saw a lot of mistakes that were being made.

606
00:51:29,950 --> 00:51:35,030
I think that a lot of good things have been done over the last eight years.

607
00:51:35,830 --> 00:51:40,490
Whether it been four certain projects or against certain projects, I think that the

608
00:51:40,490 --> 00:51:43,710
influence that I've had, at least I hope, have made a difference.

609
00:51:44,870 --> 00:51:47,630
I was real concerned about setbacks, for instance, on homes.

610
00:51:48,990 --> 00:51:54,230
And I know when applicants come to us, they don't ever try to violate the setback rules.

611
00:51:54,230 --> 00:51:56,610
So, there's a lot I'm proud of.

612
00:51:57,210 --> 00:51:58,510
I'm an attorney by trade.

613
00:52:00,370 --> 00:52:05,790
I have a graduate degree in history, which requires a lot of research and writing.

614
00:52:06,550 --> 00:52:12,130
And as an attorney, I'm involved in a lot of joint groups with other attorneys working

615
00:52:12,130 --> 00:52:17,430
in meetings and sitting around a room with bunch of attorneys is a lot less pleasurable than

616
00:52:17,430 --> 00:52:19,430
with other planning commissioners.

617
00:52:21,310 --> 00:52:22,690
I won't take up any more time.

618
00:52:22,690 --> 00:52:24,470
If I may get any questions, I can certainly answer them.

619
00:52:24,790 --> 00:52:27,470
I really have enjoyed the opportunity, I hope it continues.

620
00:52:28,670 --> 00:52:34,690
This opportunity has led me to be on the board for the Simi Valley Hospital and

621
00:52:34,690 --> 00:52:37,270
represent the City of More Park, sort of, as the liaison there.

622
00:52:38,730 --> 00:52:43,430
I've attended all the legal city conventions each year, and

623
00:52:43,430 --> 00:52:49,050
I really, very much enjoy the opportunity that you've provided me over the last eight years, and I hope it continues.

624
00:52:49,190 --> 00:52:49,930
Thank you very much.

625
00:52:50,890 --> 00:52:51,570
Thank you.

626
00:52:54,470 --> 00:52:55,090
Larry Miller.

627
00:52:58,150 --> 00:53:01,510
Good evening, sir. Good evening. Good evening, Patrick. Good

628
00:53:01,510 --> 00:53:07,590
evening, Mayor, to council members and staff. My name is Larry Miller. I live at 1-2-0-8-4-Alderburg.

629
00:53:08,690 --> 00:53:14,470
A little bit about my background. I currently, the facilities manager at Las Vegas Municipal Water District

630
00:53:14,470 --> 00:53:20,090
have been there for three years. Prior to that, I worked for the City of Los Angeles for 26 years.

631
00:53:20,090 --> 00:53:24,590
I worked at the Department of Airports, so I worked at Water and Power for a while and

632
00:53:24,590 --> 00:53:27,990
I also spent the last 15 years as a manager with public works.

633
00:53:29,170 --> 00:53:32,390
During that time, I also did part-time work at Venture College.

634
00:53:32,530 --> 00:53:35,910
I taught water science classes at the college for 15 years.

635
00:53:36,810 --> 00:53:43,530
And as far as my community involvement, I've been on the Quareridge 1-H-O-A for about 15

636
00:53:43,530 --> 00:53:43,810
years.

637
00:53:43,930 --> 00:53:47,090
I've been on all the positions, President, Vice President, Secretary, Treasurer.

638
00:53:47,090 --> 00:53:51,970
And the only one I've never been able to finagle is the member-large position, it seems

639
00:53:51,970 --> 00:53:53,590
always to go to some new person.

640
00:53:55,830 --> 00:54:00,690
And also some of my other community involvement, I've raised four daughters, we've lived

641
00:54:00,690 --> 00:54:07,590
in more park for 20 years, two of my older daughters were involved in the band and one was

642
00:54:07,590 --> 00:54:13,230
in the band, one was in the 12 flags and during that time I was the rowdy of the truck driver.

643
00:54:13,230 --> 00:54:21,570
So what that took, what that meant was I take a few hours off early on Friday and go pick up the big van at the at the school that the

644
00:54:23,070 --> 00:54:29,990
District yard go to school. We load up the truck with all these instruments and boxes and stuff and in early in the morning

645
00:54:29,990 --> 00:54:35,830
We get up in the morning a lot of us there in the audience were there clean Harper some some of you folks were there back then

646
00:54:35,830 --> 00:54:42,650
Take the kids at a school and what where we were playing for the for the Saturday and we'd watch them and help them and

647
00:54:43,290 --> 00:54:49,390
Pack up drive back to Moore Park and unload and it was it was probably some of the best a lot of times up at and

648
00:54:50,530 --> 00:54:53,430
I the only reason I put it to come to the city council

649
00:54:53,430 --> 00:54:55,190
I didn't have to see a witch doctor

650
00:54:55,190 --> 00:54:59,110
I thought I might have to see psychiatrists and ask myself to you why am I why am I doing this and

651
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:17,200
I thank my good friend, Mr. Peske. He had mentioned that there was an opening on the planning commission. So I work with Bob. I work with Keith on some master HOA issues. And I just wanted to throw my hand in the ring and give it a shot. We're glad you did. Thank you. Thank you. Welcome.

652
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:22,820
Thomas Nelson. Good evening.

653
00:55:28,130 --> 00:55:33,130
He has a brief presentation. If I could have the lights, please. And the camera.

654
00:55:33,130 --> 00:55:37,450
I've been a resident of a more part for about 11 years now.

655
00:55:38,990 --> 00:55:43,270
My background, I always did Disney Imagineera for almost 14 years.

656
00:55:44,290 --> 00:55:50,290
In these last few years, I've been doing architectural visualization for developers and architects

657
00:55:50,750 --> 00:55:58,670
and presenting information about physical models, renderings, and video flyers, these are a

658
00:55:58,670 --> 00:56:01,130
a little compressed right now, I think it should actually be a little wider.

659
00:56:02,970 --> 00:56:09,770
The very recent work, what I do is I take schematics, drawings, cocktail napkin sketches,

660
00:56:10,050 --> 00:56:15,010
you know, anything that people have, and I pull it together in a format that is

661
00:56:15,010 --> 00:56:18,090
a coherent and aesthetically satisfying.

662
00:56:19,810 --> 00:56:23,690
The reason I would be interested in being on the planning commission is that I would

663
00:56:23,690 --> 00:56:29,230
Often times when I'm working on projects like this I see things that could be improved

664
00:56:30,750 --> 00:56:36,190
Sometimes my input it is you know accepted sometimes. You know one just has to be quiet about things

665
00:56:37,830 --> 00:56:42,250
I think we're going to give you the wireless mic sir. Oh, hello. Oh, that's better

666
00:56:44,570 --> 00:56:46,450
This house for for instance

667
00:56:48,490 --> 00:56:50,070
The dining room area

668
00:56:50,910 --> 00:56:59,970
The architect had it where one of the walls came up and then jogged over and then went up again and wasn't aware of it and I kept telling him you have problems here.

669
00:57:00,250 --> 00:57:08,450
Things aren't working in your drawings, your draftsmen, these are not interpreting your intent correctly or he doesn't know what he's doing.

670
00:57:09,690 --> 00:57:12,430
It turns out when they actually went to build, they had lots of problems.

671
00:57:13,430 --> 00:57:19,650
The next piece that comes up is a house that needed a variance for setback, height, community

672
00:57:19,650 --> 00:57:24,430
character square footage that was presented to the Ventura County Planning Commission

673
00:57:24,430 --> 00:57:25,310
last February.

674
00:57:26,110 --> 00:57:33,890
This is the false house that's currently under construction, passed very enthusiastically

675
00:57:33,890 --> 00:57:36,150
by the planning commission members.

676
00:57:36,370 --> 00:57:40,410
They were very pleased that they could see attic lands exactly what was being intended.

677
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:49,920
So basically, I'd just like to be further upstream in the process to be able to voice concerns

678
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:51,480
I have about things that are being developed.

679
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:54,980
Any questions?

680
00:57:57,040 --> 00:58:01,220
Your specialty is in, I just want to be designer.

681
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:02,780
Okay.

682
00:58:02,900 --> 00:58:12,200
So the architecture that we're seeing is, I try to understand, just I present four architects

683
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:15,480
and developers, I take their schematics, their drawings,

684
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:19,160
and I do presentations for themselves,

685
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:21,920
for their clients, and for any planning boards

686
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:22,820
that they have to go through.

687
00:58:24,180 --> 00:58:26,700
Okay, so I have like a longstanding interest

688
00:58:26,700 --> 00:58:28,580
in architecture, I build architectural models,

689
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:29,960
I've been doing this kind of thing

690
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:31,020
for about 20 years now.

691
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:33,620
And you package it in, and I think the manner

692
00:58:33,620 --> 00:58:36,920
that we saw the form, okay, I understand, very good.

693
00:58:37,420 --> 00:58:40,140
Can I get easier for people to visualize what's gonna happen?

694
00:58:40,140 --> 00:58:42,440
Well, you know, very few people, you know, looking at

695
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:44,180
Lutherans ago, you know, what does this mean to me?

696
00:58:44,820 --> 00:58:45,200
Okay.

697
00:58:45,900 --> 00:58:46,460
Thank you.

698
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:47,900
Thank you very much.

699
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:48,780
Thank you, sir.

700
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:50,120
Thank you for your patience as well.

701
00:58:51,100 --> 00:58:53,060
I apologize for the problems with the microphones.

702
00:58:53,540 --> 00:58:53,640
No.

703
00:58:55,580 --> 00:58:56,340
Robert Pesca.

704
00:58:57,900 --> 00:58:59,080
I know it's here to stay here.

705
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:05,960
Good evening, Honorable Mayor and Councilor.

706
00:59:06,140 --> 00:59:06,400
You think?

707
00:59:07,260 --> 00:59:11,020
My name is Bob Pesca, and since I believe that you're all

708
00:59:11,020 --> 00:59:12,680
pretty well know me, I'll just

709
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:14,720
just getting to a couple of salient factors.

710
00:59:16,420 --> 00:59:19,760
I've been a merit resident of the Moore Park for almost 11 years now,

711
00:59:21,060 --> 00:59:24,640
and this will be the completion of my second term on the Planning Commission.

712
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:29,480
I've been an HOA board member for eight years, six of them as president,

713
00:59:30,340 --> 00:59:32,920
and I serve on the Board of Directors of the Boys and Girls Club.

714
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:37,940
My introduction to planning was when it got thrown into the pool to learn to swim

715
00:59:37,940 --> 00:59:40,480
I was president of the Chamber of Commerce in Northridge.

716
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:58,380
It's very active and growing chamber of commerce at a critical junction of the city when we had coming in a major what is now a major university, a major hospital and medical center and a major shopping center population about 66,000

717
00:59:58,380 --> 00:59:59,900
of that time, we

718
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:07,040
We became a very active chamber and became known as somewhat of a quasi-governmental body because

719
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:11,320
Los Angeles was way downtown and they didn't know what was going on in the valley and seemed

720
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:16,820
to care less. So we kind of took control, established our credentials and accomplished

721
01:00:16,820 --> 01:00:22,100
a lot in more, in the north of the country. I'm really getting used to the north part.

722
01:00:24,420 --> 01:00:31,660
We brought in several businesses, major automobile dealerships, major restaurants, and we

723
01:00:31,660 --> 01:00:34,000
had a big hand in planning the area.

724
01:00:35,180 --> 01:00:41,160
We did it simply on the basis of the credence that we had gained as a community organization,

725
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:45,760
not any legal precedents, and I can't tell you the number of times I testified before the

726
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:49,160
planning commission and the board of zoning adjustment for the City of Los Angeles.

727
01:00:50,380 --> 01:01:00,260
In my two terms as a commissioner, I've had the privilege of serving with individuals who bring not only talent and experience to the commission, but high integrity and a strong work ethic.

728
01:01:01,220 --> 01:01:06,520
As an outstanding example, I refer you to the better part of a year we studied the proposed North Park project.

729
01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:15,300
The professional and even handed hearings of the commission were such that none of us knew until the end of all the public hearings, including this council's.

730
01:01:15,780 --> 01:01:20,480
whether any of the commissioners were in support of or opposition to the project.

731
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:25,240
And I think that's a great example of professional integrity that you find on your planning commission.

732
01:01:26,460 --> 01:01:30,040
I'm a strong believer in public service. I have been all my life.

733
01:01:30,940 --> 01:01:34,400
And I will be honored to continue serving as a member of the planning commission.

734
01:01:35,900 --> 01:01:38,060
I'll be happy to answer any questions.

735
01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:39,440
Questions at this point?

736
01:01:40,660 --> 01:01:42,520
Thank you, and best wishes for a happy season.

737
01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:47,380
you as well. Thank you. Mark Taylor and

738
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:53,060
Henry Thomas. Good evening, sir.

739
01:01:58,710 --> 01:01:59,870
Welcome. Thank you.

740
01:02:00,090 --> 01:02:03,810
Good evening. My name is Thomas Henry. I'm sorry. That's okay. Everybody gets

741
01:02:03,810 --> 01:02:06,050
wrong. I have three first names. My mother's fault.

742
01:02:10,890 --> 01:02:13,130
I'm a licensed architect. I moved to

743
01:02:13,130 --> 01:02:16,210
to more park in December of 2004,

744
01:02:16,910 --> 01:02:18,850
and I opened my architectural firm

745
01:02:19,460 --> 01:02:21,970
approximately 13 years ago in the city of Oxnard.

746
01:02:22,170 --> 01:02:24,930
I'm a firm believer in giving back to the community

747
01:02:24,930 --> 01:02:26,130
that finds me with living.

748
01:02:26,670 --> 01:02:29,390
So while I was in the city of Oxnard,

749
01:02:29,550 --> 01:02:31,530
I was the president, past president

750
01:02:31,530 --> 01:02:33,130
of the Portland Indian Chamber of Commerce.

751
01:02:33,510 --> 01:02:37,850
I was also a member of the Oxnard Boys and Girls Club,

752
01:02:37,850 --> 01:02:41,470
and currently in keeping in with that vein thought,

753
01:02:41,470 --> 01:02:48,430
I am a member of the Moore Park College Foundation as well as a member of the local Rotary Club.

754
01:02:50,660 --> 01:02:51,880
Architecture is my passion.

755
01:02:53,660 --> 01:02:58,000
It is something that affects everybody's life every day, with you believe it or not.

756
01:02:58,120 --> 01:03:01,300
From the time you get up and walk out to get your cup of coffee to your drive to work,

757
01:03:02,100 --> 01:03:03,320
Moore Park is a growing city.

758
01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:05,300
It has a lot of potential.

759
01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:07,660
I hate to see it go in the toilet.

760
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:11,780
We have a very good commission.

761
01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:17,460
I would like to join that commission and work with some of my other architectural colleagues

762
01:03:17,460 --> 01:03:23,540
in this community to ensure that more part continues to grow in a very smart manner

763
01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:31,500
that we walk a very fine line at times between the open spaces as well as good development.

764
01:03:31,500 --> 01:03:37,420
And also to be able to look at when we need to make changes whether it is in our zoning

765
01:03:37,420 --> 01:03:41,900
ordinances or conditions for projects that we're not afraid to make those changes.

766
01:03:42,620 --> 01:03:50,760
And I feel that with my experience as an architect I can bring good ideas and be very

767
01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:56,660
extremely professional. As far as my personal career I have worked from everything from

768
01:03:56,660 --> 01:03:58,980
from small residential to major developments,

769
01:03:59,540 --> 01:04:01,920
including laboratory school work hospitals.

770
01:04:02,500 --> 01:04:05,700
And I've been in the architectural field for over 25 years.

771
01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:09,180
I would seriously consider,

772
01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:11,620
like to be considered for this opportunity,

773
01:04:11,820 --> 01:04:14,440
and I feel that I would be good for the city of Moore Park.

774
01:04:14,860 --> 01:04:15,420
Are there any questions?

775
01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:18,540
Your application mentioned some work that you've done

776
01:04:18,540 --> 01:04:19,720
with historical buildings.

777
01:04:20,300 --> 01:04:20,460
Yes.

778
01:04:20,660 --> 01:04:22,740
Can you summarize just briefly some of your work

779
01:04:22,740 --> 01:04:23,640
with historical buildings?

780
01:04:23,940 --> 01:04:24,120
Yes.

781
01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:35,480
Yes, I've worked on various city communities on the inventory as well as Oklahoma City in regards to some of the historical buildings that had to be preserved.

782
01:04:35,980 --> 01:04:39,300
Some of that work in Oklahoma City was while I was in the military.

783
01:04:40,060 --> 01:04:41,320
It was in the Air Force for six years.

784
01:04:41,940 --> 01:04:53,200
And my job there was to handle the architectural and engineering contracts as well as oversee the design of some of the Air Force historical buildings as well as when we were called upon by

785
01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:55,200
the local communities to work on those projects as well.

786
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:03,140
Thank you very much. Thank you for your patience and thank you for being here.

787
01:05:08,870 --> 01:05:13,890
Any questions from the council at this point? Either in general or specifically.

788
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:36,420
I think the council has previously agreed to consider the appointments at the regular meeting of the council on Wednesday, January 17th, is that correct? I think further on the item before we conclude. Thank you to everybody that took the opportunity to come down and speak to the council. We appreciate your

789
01:05:36,420 --> 01:05:38,640
where you're just doing willingness to serve

790
01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:40,920
and sharing your expertise and your ideas with us.

791
01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:44,080
We will go ahead and consider the appointments

792
01:05:44,080 --> 01:05:46,680
on Wednesday, January 17th.

793
01:05:46,780 --> 01:05:48,860
Your presence at that time is not required,

794
01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:51,120
although it's encouraged.

795
01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:54,880
So if you'd like any additional information

796
01:05:54,880 --> 01:05:57,720
on the process, please don't hesitate to contact us

797
01:05:57,720 --> 01:05:59,620
or Mr. CUNY as well.

798
01:06:00,100 --> 01:06:00,780
Mr. Mayor.

799
01:06:01,220 --> 01:06:01,500
Mr. Mayor?

800
01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:04,960
Just like to add, it's apparent from the applications

801
01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:08,960
and especially as the applications have been highlighted tonight that we have a tremendous

802
01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:16,100
community, the people that live here. Incredible talent, incredible self-sacrifice that people

803
01:06:16,100 --> 01:06:21,180
are willing to make and thank you for that. It's a pleasure to serve a community that is,

804
01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:26,140
and it's people like you that make the community so wonderful. After this whole process is over,

805
01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:30,800
if you have comments or thoughts and opinions as to whether this is an improvement,

806
01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:33,520
whether there's something else that should be done,

807
01:06:34,080 --> 01:06:35,160
you know, please feel free to share my,

808
01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:38,020
I probably encourage you to wait till after the 17th,

809
01:06:38,020 --> 01:06:42,220
especially if you're going to really nasty comments about it,

810
01:06:42,320 --> 01:06:45,460
but, and remember, your emails have come to the council,

811
01:06:45,520 --> 01:06:47,620
but everybody, so, if you're going to say something bad

812
01:06:47,620 --> 01:06:49,540
about Janice, make sure you, you know,

813
01:06:49,660 --> 01:06:51,140
I'm just teasing because I love Janice,

814
01:06:51,240 --> 01:06:53,580
but anyway, thanks again for that,

815
01:06:53,900 --> 01:06:55,480
and again, this is the first time,

816
01:06:56,040 --> 01:06:57,740
maybe this is a step forward, maybe a step back,

817
01:06:57,860 --> 01:06:59,860
I learned a lot tonight from listening to everybody

818
01:06:59,860 --> 01:07:03,280
and I'm just in awe of the talent and the people,

819
01:07:03,580 --> 01:07:04,480
and that's unfortunate.

820
01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:06,020
We have more people than positions,

821
01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:10,860
but that will fall on someone's shoulders to nominate,

822
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:12,580
so we'll go from there, just pardon.

823
01:07:13,180 --> 01:07:15,460
What you don't get in the documents that we read

824
01:07:15,460 --> 01:07:16,400
was the passion.

825
01:07:17,380 --> 01:07:20,580
And hearing you, each of you, speak about your passion

826
01:07:20,580 --> 01:07:23,240
for the position really was well worth it,

827
01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:25,800
in my opinion, so far, so it's good.

828
01:07:30,140 --> 01:07:33,760
Thank you very much. We appreciate you being here.

829
01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:37,800
Item B is considered the appointments

830
01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:40,960
to the active adult center advisory committee, Mrs. Truffin-Steff.

831
01:07:41,720 --> 01:07:46,040
Mayor Hunter and council members, the active adult center advisory committee consists

832
01:07:46,040 --> 01:07:53,900
of five members who served two-year terms and we have received five applications. At this

833
01:07:53,900 --> 01:08:02,740
This time we're asking that the City Council appoint the act of adult-centered advisory committee members for that two-year charm.

834
01:08:06,950 --> 01:08:08,410
Questions from the council at this point?

835
01:08:08,890 --> 01:08:09,630
Speakers on the item?

836
01:08:10,090 --> 01:08:10,850
We have no speakers.

837
01:08:12,470 --> 01:08:14,650
Okay, I'd ask the council to first wave rules.

838
01:08:14,650 --> 01:08:16,390
I'll make the nominations collectively.

839
01:08:16,710 --> 01:08:17,350
That's acceptable.

840
01:08:18,410 --> 01:08:19,070
And we'll wave rules.

841
01:08:19,610 --> 01:08:25,950
It would be my intent then to nominate for a two-year term to the active adult-centered advisory committee.

842
01:08:25,950 --> 01:08:33,110
Maureen Abramson, Robert Moser, Nancy Walker, Carol Wolsey, and Robert Moran.

843
01:08:33,810 --> 01:08:34,390
With

844
01:08:38,070 --> 01:08:39,370
that in the formal promotion, I'll second.

845
01:08:39,770 --> 01:08:41,350
Motion in a second, any further discussion?

846
01:08:41,630 --> 01:08:42,030
All in favor?

847
01:08:42,430 --> 01:08:42,710
Aye.

848
01:08:43,290 --> 01:08:43,910
It will be the order.

849
01:08:45,090 --> 01:08:49,010
Item C is to consider appointments to the Citizens Transportation Advisory Committee.

850
01:08:49,470 --> 01:08:50,370
Mrs. Kraftensteck?

851
01:08:50,770 --> 01:08:59,310
Mayor Hunter, Councilmembers, the City of World Park appoints two representatives and one alternate to the Ventura County Citizens Transportation Advisory Committee.

852
01:08:59,310 --> 01:09:13,150
We've received applications from three individuals for these positions, so at this time, we're asking that the City Council make the appointments for the two representatives and the one alternate question.

853
01:09:18,060 --> 01:09:19,480
Any questions on this?

854
01:09:21,620 --> 01:09:22,740
Dr. Micos?

855
01:09:22,740 --> 01:09:31,380
The question I have is certainly when we had five applicants in five seats, it's relatively

856
01:09:31,380 --> 01:09:36,620
pro forma. Did we give the opportunity to these groups to come to speak to us tonight

857
01:09:36,620 --> 01:09:37,400
too or not?

858
01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:37,960
No.

859
01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:44,180
The council's direction was toward the other whether we need admissions to invite those

860
01:09:44,180 --> 01:09:44,540
commissions.

861
01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:45,680
All right.

862
01:09:46,180 --> 01:09:47,360
I was just wondering about that.

863
01:09:47,360 --> 01:09:59,780
Is my understanding for the citizens transportation advisory committee that is two regular appointments and one alternate and this was

864
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:16,740
Actually done with two recruitment, the first ended with one applicant. The position was re-advertised and two additional applications were received. That's correct. In past years to fill the alternate we have used a city staff member.

865
01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:34,420
Dr. Michaels. I was just going to say, it's an extremely strong rule of applicants this time compared to any other time for the citizens transportation advisory committee.

866
01:10:35,440 --> 01:10:44,340
I'm blown away with being impressed by all of the candidates in the sense that they all

867
01:10:44,340 --> 01:10:51,520
have some very strong connection and not always the same connection but a strong connection

868
01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:59,040
with transportation and so I mean I think we're going to do well no matter what and we will

869
01:10:59,040 --> 01:11:04,140
Well, for the first time in a long time, end up with an alternate that doesn't have to be said.

870
01:11:07,370 --> 01:11:08,570
We have speakers on the item?

871
01:11:08,930 --> 01:11:09,530
No speakers.

872
01:11:10,250 --> 01:11:10,450
Okay.

873
01:11:11,030 --> 01:11:11,970
It's a pleasure to counsel.

874
01:11:12,010 --> 01:11:24,030
It would be my intent then to appoint to the or to nominate to the Citizens Transportation Advisory Committee for the two regular positions, Dr.

875
01:11:24,030 --> 01:11:28,130
Mr. Bush, Molly, and Mr. Charles Devlin, and as the alternate Mr. Donald Bane.

876
01:11:28,570 --> 01:11:28,910
Second.

877
01:11:29,730 --> 01:11:31,450
Motion to second any further discussion?

878
01:11:31,750 --> 01:11:32,190
All in favor.

879
01:11:32,570 --> 01:11:32,730
Aye.

880
01:11:32,870 --> 01:11:32,970
Aye.

881
01:11:33,210 --> 01:11:33,750
Without objection.

882
01:11:35,750 --> 01:11:40,110
Item D, consider a waiver of temporary use permit fees and building permit fees for rebuilding

883
01:11:40,110 --> 01:11:43,150
the homes, destroyed, and the Shekel Fire, Mr. Hogan.

884
01:11:43,250 --> 01:11:43,470
Good evening.

885
01:11:43,830 --> 01:11:44,710
Good evening, Mayor.

886
01:11:44,850 --> 01:11:45,690
Members of the Council.

887
01:11:46,790 --> 01:11:53,470
After the fire in 2003, the Council had directed staff to bring forward a report similar

888
01:11:53,470 --> 01:11:59,030
to this and we took it on ourselves to bring this report forward to you for your consideration

889
01:11:59,950 --> 01:12:06,710
to waive permit fees for the four homes that were destroyed in recent fire, the two mobile homes

890
01:12:06,710 --> 01:12:14,070
and two homes and two mobile homes. Actually, there are also other homes that were damaged and

891
01:12:14,070 --> 01:12:21,870
while this report doesn't include that, I want to add that to your consideration.

892
01:12:21,870 --> 01:12:29,130
essentially what we were looking at is for permits, a way of the permits, the cost

893
01:12:29,130 --> 01:12:35,290
of about 1925 dollars, and in talking with our building official, the other homes

894
01:12:35,290 --> 01:12:43,610
re-roughing and other permits will be necessary to repair the fire damage of homes from the

895
01:12:43,610 --> 01:12:52,670
recent fire would total above additional $2,000. So if the council is of the mind to do

896
01:12:52,670 --> 01:12:58,570
the same as you did in 2003 and essentially waive the fees then we would bring back an

897
01:12:58,570 --> 01:13:05,710
appropriation resolution for your next agenda for about $4,000 that should more than cover

898
01:13:06,580 --> 01:13:12,350
the waiver of necessary building permit fees and any other applications that might be

899
01:13:12,350 --> 01:13:15,210
required through the entitlement process.

900
01:13:16,190 --> 01:13:23,830
I might also mention while I have the opportunity we have been working with a local builder and

901
01:13:23,830 --> 01:13:31,170
trying to provide some of the Rotary Club, I should say myself as a Rotarian has been

902
01:13:31,170 --> 01:13:38,690
working with the party homes and with the LaPurche family and trying to locate a mobile home

903
01:13:38,690 --> 01:13:41,730
for them to be relocated on their site.

904
01:13:42,250 --> 01:13:45,550
I'm pleased to say we have secured a mobile home for them,

905
01:13:45,690 --> 01:13:47,910
three bedroom, two bath unit.

906
01:13:48,670 --> 01:13:52,550
Part E is stepped up to the plate and said they will pay

907
01:13:52,550 --> 01:13:55,390
for the cost and relocation of that home.

908
01:13:56,110 --> 01:14:02,070
They will also pay for its new carpet and any dry wall

909
01:14:02,470 --> 01:14:04,610
and for the cost of assembling that home

910
01:14:04,610 --> 01:14:05,930
and leveling it on the site.

911
01:14:06,510 --> 01:14:21,630
and we're also trying to get some last minute things done and we'll be looking for volunteers to help us build the deck and the ramp required for mom to get up into the unit.

912
01:14:22,050 --> 01:14:26,310
It will be placed on her old site, so it will be very familiar to her.

913
01:14:26,310 --> 01:14:32,510
We're hoping that we can get this done before the new year, but that might be tight.

914
01:14:33,030 --> 01:14:39,290
But we're moving very rapidly forward on this, and I talked to Duran about this today.

915
01:14:39,650 --> 01:14:40,430
She's very pleased.

916
01:14:40,710 --> 01:14:46,350
She can't believe how quickly things have come together and how the community has responded.

917
01:14:47,170 --> 01:14:55,810
We were able recently, as I think two days ago, the Rotary Club gave her a check of part

918
01:14:55,810 --> 01:14:59,790
part of the donations that we've received and we are in the process of distributing the

919
01:14:59,790 --> 01:14:59,910
rest.

920
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:28,860
Most of those. Thank you to Part D for their participation in the process. That's very, very nice. I support, of course, to ask recommended action, but we have received, and we'll probably receive in the future, a number of requests for building permits and light permits from residents whose homes were not destroyed, but simply damaged and are going to meet permits. In fact, we've already had one resident whose home was damaged, acquire a building permit to make a necessary repair.

921
01:15:28,860 --> 01:15:41,840
So I would ask that the council consider expanding the program to include the cost of building permits for necessary repairs, and further contemplate a refund of those fees.

922
01:15:42,040 --> 01:15:48,660
I think they're in the area of about $200 to the resident who has already paid for a building fee to make repairs to the roof.

923
01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:53,560
So I think that would be consistent with the extent of the council.

924
01:15:55,660 --> 01:15:56,680
Any other questions?

925
01:15:57,180 --> 01:15:57,920
Speakers on the item?

926
01:15:58,480 --> 01:15:59,180
No speakers.

927
01:15:59,180 --> 01:16:00,540
First, Mrs. Parvin.

928
01:16:01,280 --> 01:16:04,880
Barry, was there, I think, isn't Rotary still collecting funds for?

929
01:16:05,460 --> 01:16:08,040
We still are collecting those funds.

930
01:16:10,180 --> 01:16:14,260
You know, I don't off the hand, know what the address is.

931
01:16:14,420 --> 01:16:21,780
We've received funds from as far away as we had a simple note saying I used to live in

932
01:16:21,780 --> 01:16:31,400
part it was no no return address and on it it was a stamp from Colorado and inside was a folded

933
01:16:31,400 --> 01:16:38,300
five dollar bill. We're getting all kinds of requests and it's our intent to distribute that money

934
01:16:38,300 --> 01:16:45,560
very quickly as part of the club and as a board member I'm speaking for for rotary as to the needy

935
01:16:45,560 --> 01:16:53,340
parties. The city has a list of those damaged homes, at least we're aware of, and if anyone

936
01:16:53,340 --> 01:16:59,740
is not on that list, they should come forward to the city so that we can help them through

937
01:16:59,740 --> 01:17:06,060
the process. If somebody wants to volunteer to help build the ramp for the approach property,

938
01:17:06,400 --> 01:17:13,360
is there a contact number? They call you. That's easier now. That's probably the easiest

939
01:17:13,360 --> 01:17:19,160
Just to call me, that number would be 517-6258, and that's my direct line.

940
01:17:20,060 --> 01:17:23,260
I just, we are getting very good at this, which is unfortunate.

941
01:17:24,120 --> 01:17:31,500
But I do appreciate that this was, this was so quickly processed, and it is very proactive on staff's part, and I want to thank you for that.

942
01:17:32,060 --> 01:17:32,320
Thank you.

943
01:17:32,620 --> 01:17:41,940
I think if you're interested in contributing to the fund, you can make checks payable to the Rotary Club of Morepark and send them to PO Box 172 in Morepark.

944
01:17:41,940 --> 01:17:50,360
Thank you. We will be happy to rotary. We'll be happy to pass those along to those who are in need. Do you have speakers on the item?

945
01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:51,460
No speakers.

946
01:17:52,300 --> 01:17:53,420
How's the council wish to proceed?

947
01:17:54,980 --> 01:17:59,960
Move staff recommendation with the adjustments suggested by both Mr. Hogan and the mayor.

948
01:18:00,380 --> 01:18:02,520
Second motion and a second with the clerk call the roll. Please.

949
01:18:03,100 --> 01:18:04,560
Council Member Micahess.

950
01:18:04,700 --> 01:18:04,840
Aye.

951
01:18:05,140 --> 01:18:06,260
Council Member Milhoes.

952
01:18:07,260 --> 01:18:07,820
Aye.

953
01:18:08,500 --> 01:18:09,660
Council Member Barbant.

954
01:18:09,760 --> 01:18:09,900
Aye.

955
01:18:10,440 --> 01:18:11,300
Council Member Van Dam.

956
01:18:11,560 --> 01:18:11,700
Aye.

957
01:18:11,900 --> 01:18:12,300
Mayor Hunter.

958
01:18:12,780 --> 01:18:25,460
Item E. Consider a ward for construction contract for projects who interconnect the signals along Los Angeles Avenue and Tierra Raja Road and a resolution amending the fiscal year 67 budget to revise funding for the projects.

959
01:18:25,460 --> 01:18:26,620
Next, Mr. Al, good evening.

960
01:18:26,920 --> 01:18:29,140
Good evening, Honourable Mayor, Member of the City Council.

961
01:18:29,580 --> 01:18:34,360
On September 28, 2006, the City Council approved the classes specifications for

962
01:18:34,360 --> 01:18:39,120
the construction of interconnect signal for the area under Los Angeles Avenue.

963
01:18:40,080 --> 01:18:45,040
Bills were received from contractors, and tonight we are here to consider the ward of construction

964
01:18:45,040 --> 01:18:47,920
contract for the construction of these two projects.

965
01:18:48,640 --> 01:18:52,700
These projects will ensure a much smoother flow of traffic along these two streets.

966
01:18:53,540 --> 01:18:57,340
based on the designated speed limits identified on these routes.

967
01:18:58,320 --> 01:19:05,240
These projects would also reduce pollution and provide a more efficient flow of traffic along the area and Los Angeles Avenue.

968
01:19:06,280 --> 01:19:19,060
Staff is considering the water contracted task, electric, engineers, the cost in a month of $51,070, and it is very comparable with the engineers' estimate.

969
01:19:19,060 --> 01:19:27,820
If there's any questions that I can answer, apparently there's just been a change in the

970
01:19:27,820 --> 01:19:28,660
funding sources.

971
01:19:29,260 --> 01:19:31,540
Can you explain the change in the funding sources?

972
01:19:32,160 --> 01:19:38,400
What has occurred is in the past, a certain dollar amount that was allocated from the

973
01:19:38,400 --> 01:19:43,340
CMAP funding was used for the Maureen Lane and Los Angeles Avenue widening.

974
01:19:43,340 --> 01:19:51,720
So a part of the grant that we received from the state of California form for the LA Avenue that was reduced from

975
01:19:52,340 --> 01:19:59,900
320,000 to 90,000 dollars and additionally because of the cost the projects came in below the grant

976
01:20:02,400 --> 01:20:05,360
We have a surplus of fund for these two projects.

977
01:20:09,500 --> 01:20:10,140
Mr. Mayor.

978
01:20:13,400 --> 01:20:31,420
Mr. Law, I noticed just that it was such an astronomical different price for the second bid. And yet, you know, you've said that it fits with the engineer's estimate the low bid. And so, do you have any idea why there was such a big discrepancy? And if there are

979
01:20:31,420 --> 01:20:34,160
is any likelihood that the one is too low?

980
01:20:34,820 --> 01:20:38,820
If we look on page 14 of the spreadsheet, we're in the bit.

981
01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:44,220
There's a bit analysis based on the engineer's estimate on vendor one, which is staff electric

982
01:20:44,220 --> 01:20:45,060
and vendor two.

983
01:20:45,520 --> 01:20:49,300
It shows a differential price for each item, as identified.

984
01:20:50,220 --> 01:20:58,340
And basically, it identified in two particular area where the vendor number two, which is freeway

985
01:20:58,340 --> 01:21:03,780
electric. Their numbers were very much higher than the engineer's estimate or

986
01:21:03,780 --> 01:21:10,240
taft electric. One was in mobilization, traffic control and also in item number

987
01:21:10,240 --> 01:21:17,840
six on the schedule B. I'm sorry on item number five under I scheduled B for

988
01:21:17,840 --> 01:21:22,260
theory how to. There was a this party in prices there. Right well I mean I did

989
01:21:22,260 --> 01:21:25,840
notice those but I was just wondering I mean what's involved in mobilization so

990
01:21:25,840 --> 01:21:27,880
So that it's such a huge, I mean, it's twice as much.

991
01:21:28,580 --> 01:21:32,320
Sometimes contractors use that number to get money up front as part of a construction

992
01:21:32,320 --> 01:21:32,860
of project.

993
01:21:33,480 --> 01:21:33,540
Yeah.

994
01:21:33,740 --> 01:21:38,600
And some contractor who may be much more local do not have to use a high dollar among

995
01:21:38,600 --> 01:21:39,240
formalization.

996
01:21:40,200 --> 01:21:40,400
Okay.

997
01:21:40,540 --> 01:21:44,560
So you think of this located in Ventura and the other one's Riverside, so you think it's

998
01:21:44,560 --> 01:21:45,140
more travel?

999
01:21:45,520 --> 01:21:46,220
It could also be.

1000
01:21:46,500 --> 01:21:47,620
It could also be that.

1001
01:21:47,760 --> 01:21:52,760
And also Taft has been doing all the work in Ventura County, they are more aware of all

1002
01:21:52,760 --> 01:21:53,420
the conditions.

1003
01:21:53,420 --> 01:21:58,420
I'm a contractor who is far away may not be fully aware of all the requirements

1004
01:21:58,420 --> 01:22:05,400
within the city and mobilization or I mean cost of materials or homes or stuff like that.

1005
01:22:05,580 --> 01:22:08,040
So it doesn't really surprise you that there would be that big of a difference?

1006
01:22:08,880 --> 01:22:09,660
No, it does not.

1007
01:22:10,020 --> 01:22:10,960
Okay, all right.

1008
01:22:11,080 --> 01:22:16,020
I just wanted to feel comfortable and I feel better listening to your explanation and yet.

1009
01:22:16,640 --> 01:22:17,080
Thank you.

1010
01:22:17,420 --> 01:22:18,460
Any other questions at this point?

1011
01:22:19,360 --> 01:22:19,800
Question?

1012
01:22:19,800 --> 01:22:28,180
I know that construction business requests are from ten different firms and only two of them responded back.

1013
01:22:28,860 --> 01:22:30,640
Is that any area of concern?

1014
01:22:30,920 --> 01:22:33,480
Because I think Dr. Michaels has a very good question.

1015
01:22:33,480 --> 01:22:38,900
There's a huge disparity between those and at up ten, only two responded.

1016
01:22:40,360 --> 01:22:47,880
Some of those ten may have been subcontractors who have on many occasions you have quite a large number of vendors

1017
01:22:47,880 --> 01:22:54,460
who purchase bid documents, many of those vendors could be subcontractors who

1018
01:22:54,460 --> 01:22:59,320
subbed the larger contractors. That's the main reason we get a large amount of

1019
01:22:59,320 --> 01:23:03,980
bid documents. Just to clarify, that sentence may have been

1020
01:23:03,980 --> 01:23:08,400
worded a little bit better. We didn't request from them. They picked up bids.

1021
01:23:09,160 --> 01:23:11,360
This is open to any number of firms.

1022
01:23:13,580 --> 01:23:17,380
Mr. Millhouse, I just wanted to point out in the packet,

1023
01:23:17,380 --> 01:23:22,800
I'm sure everybody saw this but for the people at home the work is going to commence in January of this year

1024
01:23:22,800 --> 01:23:28,360
It should be completed by April 2007. Is that correct? Yes. Okay, you're very interesting to see.

1025
01:23:28,440 --> 01:23:33,980
Barring any unforeseen circumstance. How the impact is once that's completed. It's long overdue

1026
01:23:34,860 --> 01:23:39,700
Okay, one more quick question quickly. Well, we'll be able to

1027
01:23:41,700 --> 01:23:43,540
Quantify how much better it is?

1028
01:23:44,140 --> 01:23:49,440
Yes, we will, because we will have in the future sometimes we would have a traffic

1029
01:23:49,440 --> 01:23:53,740
operation center in one of the offices, wherein we will have a computer we will be able

1030
01:23:53,740 --> 01:24:00,260
to extract all information in terms of the peak hours of traffic and the volume of traffic

1031
01:24:00,260 --> 01:24:01,060
at each intersection.

1032
01:24:01,640 --> 01:24:04,300
Do we have baseline data now that we can compare against?

1033
01:24:04,480 --> 01:24:09,080
We have baseline data that we've used based on content, not on a daily basis.

1034
01:24:09,800 --> 01:24:15,060
And because to the extent that we could show how it was improved, I think that would be

1035
01:24:15,060 --> 01:24:15,860
useful to know.

1036
01:24:16,440 --> 01:24:16,940
I really do.

1037
01:24:17,300 --> 01:24:21,380
And I don't know how much more difficult it is to do that, but if there's a way to

1038
01:24:21,380 --> 01:24:26,440
pull off having some baseline data before this change, I think it would be very informative

1039
01:24:28,280 --> 01:24:32,500
to get a report on how much better it is.

1040
01:24:32,980 --> 01:24:38,400
We have some existing information that we've used, that used to establish existing timing.

1041
01:24:39,260 --> 01:24:45,920
And we can use that as a basis, but that subject to change based on the flow of traffic in

1042
01:24:45,920 --> 01:24:49,440
the future when it's all synchronized and working together.

1043
01:24:50,200 --> 01:24:55,220
Yeah, if the council is in agreement, I would sure like to see if we could get any kind of

1044
01:24:55,220 --> 01:24:58,880
quantifiable report on after the fact, you know.

1045
01:25:00,430 --> 01:25:30,310
We have speakers on the item. No speakers. Just a request in a comment, one, a request of the city manager that can closely scrutinize any request to use a contract contingency. Given this extraordinarily low bid, although valid and reasonable bid, there may be some request or request to use a contract contingency with a staff to closely monitor any request to use that contingency. It's second, just a comment. Part of this scope of work includes a warrant

1046
01:25:30,310 --> 01:25:37,610
analysis to change some signals from what is called a protected to a permissive stage.

1047
01:25:40,530 --> 01:25:46,410
And I will be a hard sell in supporting any change from a protected to a permissive

1048
01:25:46,410 --> 01:25:53,230
stage, which essentially allows vehicles to make a left turn when traffic is clear on

1049
01:25:53,230 --> 01:25:56,290
the green arrow as opposed to being entitled to do so on a left arrow.

1050
01:25:56,290 --> 01:26:02,090
Now, I think one of the reasons why we have a very sound traffic safety record in this

1051
01:26:02,090 --> 01:26:08,950
city is because our intersections are predominantly, if not all, protected left turns so we don't

1052
01:26:08,950 --> 01:26:09,990
have the turning conflicts.

1053
01:26:10,730 --> 01:26:15,310
So as staff moves through this process, I will make you aware that I'll be a very difficult

1054
01:26:15,310 --> 01:26:18,070
cell to change any protected to a permissive.

1055
01:26:20,990 --> 01:26:21,410
Mr. Maul.

1056
01:26:21,690 --> 01:26:27,710
As far as this project is concerned, the studies was done to see if protective permissive

1057
01:26:27,710 --> 01:26:31,790
Was warranted and in all these situations that the study was done

1058
01:26:32,710 --> 01:26:37,310
Protective permissive was not warranted. So we are not going to implement any protective permissive. Okay.

1059
01:26:37,510 --> 01:26:41,830
Has that been eliminated from the documents then and that's no longer a part of the scope of work?

1060
01:26:42,010 --> 01:26:45,250
It's not part of the scope of work. I don't know the construction. It's not an issue

1061
01:26:47,190 --> 01:26:55,170
With that all entertainment motion move the item with the amendment from the mayor on a scrutinization. I'll second motion a second with a clerk

1062
01:26:55,170 --> 01:26:55,950
Call the roll, please.

1063
01:26:56,710 --> 01:26:57,650
Council Member Mailhouse.

1064
01:26:57,770 --> 01:26:57,890
Aye.

1065
01:26:58,290 --> 01:26:59,350
Council Member Parvin.

1066
01:26:59,350 --> 01:26:59,550
Aye.

1067
01:27:00,070 --> 01:27:01,050
Council Member Van Dam.

1068
01:27:01,330 --> 01:27:01,530
Aye.

1069
01:27:01,790 --> 01:27:02,610
Council Member Michael.

1070
01:27:02,950 --> 01:27:03,110
Aye.

1071
01:27:03,310 --> 01:27:03,390
Aye.

1072
01:27:04,670 --> 01:27:06,850
Item F. Consider an approved library policies.

1073
01:27:07,030 --> 01:27:07,810
Mrs. Mellon Good evening.

1074
01:27:08,150 --> 01:27:10,110
Good evening, Mayor Hunter and members of the Council.

1075
01:27:11,230 --> 01:27:15,770
Tonight I'm here to discuss and staff is requesting your approval of three more parts

1076
01:27:15,770 --> 01:27:21,230
of the library policies to be adopted and going to effect on January 1, 2007.

1077
01:27:22,490 --> 01:27:24,450
I'm going to ask a question of you now.

1078
01:27:24,710 --> 01:27:26,630
Would you like to go through these one at a time,

1079
01:27:26,810 --> 01:27:28,610
or would you like me to speak about all three of them

1080
01:27:28,610 --> 01:27:30,670
and then open it all to discussion?

1081
01:27:31,070 --> 01:27:34,590
Maybe you can summarize for us and we're both in there.

1082
01:27:35,230 --> 01:27:37,130
As stated in the staff report before you,

1083
01:27:37,450 --> 01:27:39,330
the circulation policy dictates terms

1084
01:27:39,330 --> 01:27:40,930
by which materials can be borrowed,

1085
01:27:41,770 --> 01:27:43,390
discusses how to get a library card,

1086
01:27:43,930 --> 01:27:45,990
and outlines library fines and fees.

1087
01:27:46,670 --> 01:27:49,790
There are a couple of changes to current Ventura County

1088
01:27:49,790 --> 01:27:55,250
policy within our circulation policy that I'll outline briefly, we are going to have hot

1089
01:27:55,250 --> 01:27:59,830
off-depressed popular books that will loan for one week with no holds or renewals.

1090
01:27:59,930 --> 01:28:05,450
This will allow patrons that are quick readers and like to read the best sellers a chance

1091
01:28:05,450 --> 01:28:10,390
to come in and do what we call browsing of new books and have a better selection of books

1092
01:28:10,390 --> 01:28:11,130
to choose from.

1093
01:28:12,330 --> 01:28:17,930
Fines for overdue audio books will be $1 per day rather than the standard $0.20 per day.

1094
01:28:17,930 --> 01:28:22,170
Audio books are very hot items and they are quite expensive.

1095
01:28:22,950 --> 01:28:28,770
So in order to have people have a better incentive to bring those items back, we are increasing

1096
01:28:28,770 --> 01:28:33,090
those fines and that is kind of commonplace throughout library systems now.

1097
01:28:34,130 --> 01:28:40,390
As well as the maximum overdue fine for audio books, DVDs, videos, and music compactus will

1098
01:28:40,390 --> 01:28:47,310
be $20 rather than $6 also to proactively try to get people to return those items promptly

1099
01:28:47,310 --> 01:28:48,610
because they will check out quickly.

1100
01:28:49,910 --> 01:28:52,730
Second is the Material Selection Policy,

1101
01:28:52,930 --> 01:28:54,990
which explains how staff selects cultural,

1102
01:28:55,230 --> 01:28:57,630
educational, and recreational material for the library.

1103
01:28:58,270 --> 01:29:01,350
And this includes a brief on the Adoptive Book Program

1104
01:29:01,350 --> 01:29:02,830
that staff would like to initiate.

1105
01:29:03,930 --> 01:29:07,730
The third policy is the Internet and Computer Use Policy,

1106
01:29:08,010 --> 01:29:10,950
which outlines rules regarding the public internet computers

1107
01:29:11,430 --> 01:29:14,650
and also covers the wireless terms of use policy.

1108
01:29:14,650 --> 01:29:20,610
The library will have a wireless network and provide internet service to the public and

1109
01:29:20,610 --> 01:29:26,350
we needed to include some conditions as far as that goes for the library.

1110
01:29:27,410 --> 01:29:29,610
Employees at libraries have a difficult role.

1111
01:29:29,730 --> 01:29:35,130
They provide the service to community members and preserve laws of confidentiality while

1112
01:29:35,130 --> 01:29:40,710
trying to keep consistent on policy with every patron and to have strong and clear policies

1113
01:29:40,710 --> 01:29:45,970
in place assist the staff and enabling them to provide good quality customer service.

1114
01:29:46,870 --> 01:29:51,890
With the assistance of LSSI and input from the library task force, staff has attempted

1115
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to find a balance between the current Ventura County policies and the needs of our city library

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01:29:57,530 --> 01:29:59,490
while being fair to the community.

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01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:29,980
If you have any questions regarding the policies or how we came to our decisions on the policies, I would be happy to answer that. Is it my understanding that these policies are generally consistent with industry wide, best practices? They're not, if they're different from other library systems throughout the area, they're not significantly different. That is correct. They are generally consistent. And just a question I thought I heard you say with respect to the hot off the press collection.

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01:30:30,820 --> 01:30:32,960
that there would be no renewals and no holds.

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01:30:33,240 --> 01:30:33,560
Correct.

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01:30:34,140 --> 01:30:38,660
Yet under renewals, it talks about a standard loan period

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01:30:38,660 --> 01:30:41,300
for the item unless the item is on hold for another borrower.

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01:30:41,660 --> 01:30:45,720
Correct. Every other item in the library can be requested

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01:30:45,720 --> 01:30:49,480
to be put on hold, which means if you have a book out

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01:30:49,480 --> 01:30:51,800
for the three week loan period and somebody else wishes

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01:30:51,800 --> 01:30:54,320
to borrow that book, they can put what's called a reserve

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01:30:54,320 --> 01:30:55,320
or a hold on that book.

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01:30:55,740 --> 01:30:56,800
But not for a hot-up book.

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01:30:56,860 --> 01:30:58,140
Not for those hot-up requests.

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And those are the best hours and those are the only

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capital.

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01:31:01,720 --> 01:31:02,340
Very good.

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01:31:02,460 --> 01:31:03,240
Thank you.

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01:31:03,240 --> 01:31:03,800
Dr. Michaels.

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01:31:04,480 --> 01:31:06,540
With respect to the wireless network.

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01:31:08,380 --> 01:31:14,520
Do we know already that the building is is is set up to handle the wireless network

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01:31:14,520 --> 01:31:15,160
properly?

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01:31:15,640 --> 01:31:16,020
It is.

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01:31:16,180 --> 01:31:19,680
We are buying new technology equipment or buy new routers and switches.

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01:31:19,680 --> 01:31:24,380
We're upgrading the technology there at the library and buying access points which will

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01:31:24,380 --> 01:31:27,000
will allow the internet access hotspot capability.

1141
01:31:27,680 --> 01:31:28,360
Okay, thank you.

1142
01:31:30,280 --> 01:31:32,300
And we're having a grand opening for the library

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01:31:32,300 --> 01:31:33,100
early next year.

1144
01:31:33,220 --> 01:31:34,800
Maybe you'd like to talk a little bit about that

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01:31:34,800 --> 01:31:35,920
and what you have plans for that.

1146
01:31:36,220 --> 01:31:38,500
Absolutely, the dedication and grand opening event

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01:31:38,500 --> 01:31:41,760
is scheduled for Saturday, January 13th.

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01:31:41,980 --> 01:31:43,480
So we'll begin at 9.30 in the morning

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01:31:43,480 --> 01:31:47,040
and we'll have a ribbon cutting at 10 o'clock,

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01:31:47,040 --> 01:31:49,600
which is the time the library currently opens on Saturday

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01:31:49,600 --> 01:31:51,320
and we'll continue to stay open on Saturday.

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01:31:51,320 --> 01:31:57,260
today. Two programs are scheduled for the day, one at 1030, for the children in the

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01:31:57,260 --> 01:32:00,800
children's area of the library, and another at 2 o'clock in the afternoon, which is an

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01:32:00,800 --> 01:32:05,540
all-ages program. And we are printing out a lot of material that's going to be handed

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01:32:05,540 --> 01:32:08,680
out to the community to publicize any events.

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01:32:09,300 --> 01:32:16,380
Great. Any other questions, Mr. Van Dam? I know that with the increase of the fines for

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01:32:16,380 --> 01:32:20,800
the audiobooks, my wife is concerned since she's in there several times a week, but she

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01:32:20,800 --> 01:32:24,020
She promised to get those books in on time, so she won't get those fines.

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01:32:24,600 --> 01:32:30,720
And I visited the library recently because I had a question about the Internet access

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01:32:30,720 --> 01:32:33,000
and the unfiltered points.

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01:32:34,300 --> 01:32:41,800
And I was pleased to find out that they had moved them some distance away from the rest

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01:32:41,800 --> 01:32:46,260
of the computers where someone who was using unfiltered access, it would not be, they're

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01:32:46,260 --> 01:32:48,600
very difficult to see with the shrouds and everything.

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01:32:48,600 --> 01:32:54,560
So that was a concern with all the kids in there and I absolutely agree with the the point of the parents need a monitor

1165
01:32:55,420 --> 01:33:01,260
It's not the librarians job to be the internet police, but I'm glad they're proactive in positioning those

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01:33:02,760 --> 01:33:03,280
computers

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01:33:05,360 --> 01:33:09,880
do you have speakers on the item? No speakers. How's the council which to proceed?

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01:33:10,780 --> 01:33:16,600
Move staff's recommendation second motion a second any further discussion all in favor. I pose

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01:33:16,600 --> 01:33:18,360
Motion carries unanimously.

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01:33:19,560 --> 01:33:21,980
Item G, consider Ventura County Local Agency

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01:33:21,980 --> 01:33:24,240
Formation Commission draft policies

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01:33:24,240 --> 01:33:26,140
to address mitigation for impacts

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01:33:26,140 --> 01:33:28,680
to agricultural land resources, Mr. Hogan.

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01:33:29,220 --> 01:33:31,200
Thank you, Mayor, members of the council.

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01:33:31,600 --> 01:33:35,220
At your last meeting, council member Parvin requested

1176
01:33:35,220 --> 01:33:37,500
this agenda item to discuss the draft,

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01:33:38,180 --> 01:33:41,140
Lafko policies relating to agricultural land,

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01:33:41,720 --> 01:33:43,300
resource impact mitigation.

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01:33:43,300 --> 01:33:49,820
As you know, lethko has the authority in determining public agency boundaries established

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01:33:49,820 --> 01:33:55,640
by the Cortisi Knox Hertzberg Local Government Reorganization Act of 2000.

1181
01:33:56,660 --> 01:34:03,200
The act specifically addresses the conversion of agricultural lands and essentially it provides

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01:34:03,200 --> 01:34:08,040
for reviewing and approving or disapproving of proposals that lead to the conversion of existing

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01:34:08,040 --> 01:34:14,900
open space lands and consider all of policies and priorities, especially those that involve

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01:34:14,900 --> 01:34:21,800
open space being guided away from existing prime land to non-prime agricultural land development

1185
01:34:21,800 --> 01:34:27,500
of existing vacant or non-prime agricultural land for urban uses within the existing jurisdiction

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01:34:27,500 --> 01:34:33,740
of a local agency or the sphere of influence would be encouraged before any proposal would

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01:34:33,740 --> 01:34:39,480
be approved would lead to development of existing open space lands which are outside of the

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01:34:39,480 --> 01:34:45,160
jurisdiction boundary. Essentially what Lafgo is trying to do is to provide policies

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01:34:45,610 --> 01:34:52,820
that they would use to respond to development proposals so that they can consistently respond

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01:34:52,820 --> 01:34:59,800
throughout the county. It should be noted that the policies, the latest revised draft policies

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01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:16,420
Directive and not mandatory, and we've attached copies of those policies. The bobar of our staff is also here to answer any detailed questions you might have. I'd be happy to answer any questions. Questions of Mr. Hogan at this point, Dr. Micos?

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01:35:19,560 --> 01:35:29,860
Showing you the commissioners handbook and maybe Mr. Parvin might want to jump in on this too since she serves in on the committee. They talk about agriculture and open space preservation.

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01:35:29,860 --> 01:35:35,980
But the revised policy there is talking specifically about agricultural.

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01:35:36,360 --> 01:35:39,360
Is that correct, or are they really talking about both in the revised?

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01:35:40,520 --> 01:35:42,080
Well, I'll let Dave or stay.

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01:35:42,300 --> 01:35:43,520
Yeah, I think Dave should call it.

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01:35:43,580 --> 01:35:46,540
Yeah, I think Dave would be the person that could answer that.

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01:35:46,640 --> 01:35:47,960
Okay, can you repeat that?

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01:35:47,960 --> 01:35:52,880
All right, I was basically saying that when you, in the staff report, the attachments,

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01:35:53,140 --> 01:35:58,200
the first attachment, the commissioner's handbook references, the sections talking

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01:35:58,200 --> 01:36:04,880
about agriculture and open space preservation, but then when you get to attachment to the new

1202
01:36:04,880 --> 01:36:09,440
policies are to address mitigation for impacts to agricultural land resources, they don't

1203
01:36:09,440 --> 01:36:12,360
use the word open space too. Is that intentional or not?

1204
01:36:12,680 --> 01:36:20,500
That is intentional. What Lafko is looking for is when different agencies prepare environmental

1205
01:36:20,500 --> 01:36:29,300
mental impact reports for development projects, each agency tends to choose its own thresholds

1206
01:36:29,300 --> 01:36:35,420
of significance and methods for measuring impact on agricultural land, as well as definition

1207
01:36:35,420 --> 01:36:37,840
of what prime agricultural land is.

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01:36:38,620 --> 01:36:47,480
What life goes offering here is if the agencies use a definition of prime agricultural land

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01:36:47,480 --> 01:36:56,520
has provided in the Cortezinox Hertzberg Act, excuse me, they could then use that analysis

1210
01:36:56,520 --> 01:37:03,500
when they're considering the annexation and they don't have to do a duplicative analysis.

1211
01:37:04,780 --> 01:37:13,200
Okay, so they're only talking about mitigation for impacts to agricultural land and not

1212
01:37:13,200 --> 01:37:15,200
not for impacts to open space?

1213
01:37:15,680 --> 01:37:16,120
That's correct.

1214
01:37:16,980 --> 01:37:17,180
Okay.

1215
01:37:18,120 --> 01:37:18,800
Thank you.

1216
01:37:19,100 --> 01:37:19,640
Mrs. Parvin.

1217
01:37:20,340 --> 01:37:22,500
Well, the reason why I wanted to bring this forward

1218
01:37:22,500 --> 01:37:24,680
was that it was very interesting

1219
01:37:24,680 --> 01:37:27,300
and I know it's an ever-evolving draft,

1220
01:37:27,860 --> 01:37:32,300
but in our meeting that we had in early December,

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01:37:32,920 --> 01:37:35,840
we have a quite different version than today's,

1222
01:37:35,840 --> 01:37:39,780
you know, the one I got in our city package.

1223
01:37:39,780 --> 01:37:45,540
So as you can see this one's 6, number 6, and this is 4.

1224
01:37:46,060 --> 01:37:51,780
So when I opened it up and noticed that it was different than what LAPCO had presented to us,

1225
01:37:52,120 --> 01:37:54,700
I could see that it had already evolved since our meeting.

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01:37:55,480 --> 01:38:02,480
So I would say that the teeth of what we discussed at LAPCO is pretty much gone in this version,

1227
01:38:02,980 --> 01:38:06,660
and the things that brought out all the passion and all the speakers and lawyers

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01:38:06,660 --> 01:38:12,220
and everybody, every farmer that came to our meeting, is now subsided because they

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01:38:12,760 --> 01:38:21,620
change words such as will, to shall, or shall, they change wording, and it's

1230
01:38:21,620 --> 01:38:25,080
significantly different. They took a big chunk out of number two, and you'll

1231
01:38:25,080 --> 01:38:29,340
never, you won't have seen it, but that's good because I think it's a lot, I said,

1232
01:38:29,360 --> 01:38:35,420
more meaningful, much more meaningful document now. But the whole reason that

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01:38:35,420 --> 01:38:40,500
this all came up is over the course of the past couple of years, since I've been on

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01:38:40,500 --> 01:38:48,920
Lafgo, we have seen some very poorly and very inadequate EIR and CEQA documents. And

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01:38:48,920 --> 01:38:55,560
it seems to be becoming a norm throughout the entire county. I know that more park isn't

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01:38:55,560 --> 01:39:01,300
guilty of that and I'm not going to name any particular cities, but when you read the

1237
01:39:01,300 --> 01:39:08,620
mitigation for some of, for on the ER or the SQL documents, you're not really, they

1238
01:39:08,620 --> 01:39:14,320
don't look well analyzed. And so what we're trying to bring to everyone's attention from

1239
01:39:14,320 --> 01:39:21,180
the LAFCO level is that we no longer will tolerate that. We're going to be rejecting those documents

1240
01:39:21,180 --> 01:39:27,780
and sending them back to agencies, not just the city but other agencies. So it's become

1241
01:39:27,780 --> 01:39:29,780
I'm a problem, and that's why we're bringing it out,

1242
01:39:29,900 --> 01:39:32,140
and that's why we had the meetings in December,

1243
01:39:32,580 --> 01:39:33,880
just to bring it to everyone's attention.

1244
01:39:34,240 --> 01:39:36,760
I won't say more park, more park certainly isn't guilty of it,

1245
01:39:37,100 --> 01:39:42,720
but a lot of other agencies are not doing their job.

1246
01:39:43,320 --> 01:39:44,500
And so that's why we're coming up

1247
01:39:44,500 --> 01:39:47,260
with these additional guidelines or policies.

1248
01:39:47,960 --> 01:39:48,960
Follow-up question?

1249
01:39:49,480 --> 01:39:49,620
Yes.

1250
01:39:51,900 --> 01:39:54,520
Well, when you first said that they took the teeth out

1251
01:39:54,520 --> 01:39:55,640
of it, that had me worried.

1252
01:39:56,540 --> 01:39:59,980
and so I don't know what's really gone. I do understand what...

1253
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:29,920
Mr. Bobarck said, and that, you know, it's good to try to have people following the same standards for thresholds of significance. But I think I also heard you say that that's what they're recommending, but people still don't have to do it. At the current draft, that is correct. They're, their previous draft used shall instead of should. They changed it to should as it is a local agency's decision on how to do the environmental impact.

1254
01:40:29,920 --> 01:40:37,120
report. What this policy does is provide some guidance to make it easier when the project

1255
01:40:37,120 --> 01:40:38,840
goes through the Lafko process.

1256
01:40:39,280 --> 01:40:43,140
Is it that Lafko doesn't have the authority to tell people you shall do this or you shall

1257
01:40:43,140 --> 01:40:50,320
do that, or is it that this was supposed to be a compromise and what Lafko is intending

1258
01:40:50,320 --> 01:40:53,000
to do is if they don't do it, they're going to send it back.

1259
01:40:53,520 --> 01:40:57,940
It's an education process. That's the intent.

1260
01:40:58,640 --> 01:41:03,900
Okay, so other than the difference between shall and should, what else is missing?

1261
01:41:04,240 --> 01:41:08,320
One of the other interesting things and we have our legal councils going to come back

1262
01:41:08,320 --> 01:41:15,760
to us is that there's different, the veriating definitions of what's considered agricultural land.

1263
01:41:16,540 --> 01:41:21,700
And because it veriates, it's very challenging when it comes to Lafgo because a city or an

1264
01:41:21,700 --> 01:41:30,480
agency will review it based on their own definition of it, not the lack of version.

1265
01:41:32,990 --> 01:41:35,010
So it doesn't fit.

1266
01:41:35,510 --> 01:41:38,970
So we're going to get, I'm not sure if you've heard the same thing, but we're going to

1267
01:41:38,970 --> 01:41:45,990
get a legal opinion on real definitions since there's two very different definitions of agriculture

1268
01:41:45,990 --> 01:41:46,390
land.

1269
01:41:46,390 --> 01:41:56,410
What sounded like the, in a staff report on 52 and 53, basically, that they were referencing

1270
01:41:56,910 --> 01:42:02,270
definitions that were in the government code saying you had to use those, right?

1271
01:42:02,610 --> 01:42:02,730
Right.

1272
01:42:03,730 --> 01:42:04,030
But the government.

1273
01:42:04,030 --> 01:42:07,590
Whether they're really saying that in the policy, I don't know, because in the policy part

1274
01:42:07,590 --> 01:42:09,670
we have didn't reference those so much, did it?

1275
01:42:11,090 --> 01:42:15,350
Now we're examining that and I will probably come back to you with more information on that

1276
01:42:15,350 --> 01:42:21,130
That may be a box item or something, but definitely they're different, they don't match.

1277
01:42:22,430 --> 01:42:29,250
If I might add to that, the Department of Conservation has a definition for a primate

1278
01:42:29,250 --> 01:42:35,550
agricultural land, which is much narrower than the Cortisi-Noxford definition, it generally

1279
01:42:35,550 --> 01:42:43,910
means irrigated crops with certain soils with good organic material and the Cortisi-Nox

1280
01:42:43,910 --> 01:42:50,190
look, Surfsburg goes way beyond that and even includes grazing land under the definition.

1281
01:42:50,850 --> 01:42:56,270
I think what Lafko's looking for is that the environmental document recognized this

1282
01:42:56,270 --> 01:42:58,830
if the project's going to involve an annexation.

1283
01:43:00,310 --> 01:43:04,070
And they would call it all prime ag land.

1284
01:43:04,770 --> 01:43:04,930
Correct.

1285
01:43:05,990 --> 01:43:06,970
Do we have speakers on the item?

1286
01:43:07,370 --> 01:43:08,090
No speakers.

1287
01:43:08,590 --> 01:43:10,330
Mrs. Parvin, how would you like us to proceed?

1288
01:43:10,330 --> 01:43:15,030
I think it's basically a receiving file and I'll keep you updated.

1289
01:43:17,070 --> 01:43:17,510
Consensus.

1290
01:43:18,510 --> 01:43:20,150
Item 10 is the consent calendar.

1291
01:43:20,270 --> 01:43:25,490
The council has previously agreed on all items 10 D and 10 J. Is there anything else

1292
01:43:25,490 --> 01:43:25,970
from staff?

1293
01:43:26,810 --> 01:43:27,310
No, Mr. Mayor.

1294
01:43:27,450 --> 01:43:29,750
I'll entertain a motion on the balance of the consent calendar.

1295
01:43:29,910 --> 01:43:30,250
Summit.

1296
01:43:30,670 --> 01:43:31,070
Second.

1297
01:43:31,230 --> 01:43:32,250
Would the clerk call the roll, please?

1298
01:43:32,990 --> 01:43:34,010
Council Member Parvin.

1299
01:43:34,210 --> 01:43:34,370
Aye.

1300
01:43:34,670 --> 01:43:35,710
Council Member Micahs.

1301
01:43:35,870 --> 01:43:36,010
Aye.

1302
01:43:36,350 --> 01:43:37,250
Council Member Van Dam.

1303
01:43:37,630 --> 01:43:37,810
Aye.

1304
01:43:38,030 --> 01:43:38,950
Council Member Wilhelm.

1305
01:43:39,070 --> 01:43:39,230
Aye.

1306
01:43:39,230 --> 01:43:39,950
Mayor Hunter.

1307
01:43:40,110 --> 01:43:45,110
Item D, consider a resolution adopting the Integrated Regional Waste Management Plan

1308
01:43:45,110 --> 01:43:48,950
prepared by the Watershed Coalition of Ventura County, Dr. Micos.

1309
01:43:49,610 --> 01:43:53,950
The reason I pulled this is a couple of reasons actually.

1310
01:43:54,130 --> 01:44:04,770
I wondered to what extent has our staff been involved heavily or not heavily in the actual

1311
01:44:04,770 --> 01:44:10,510
stakeholder work to do this particular plan that would be my first question.

1312
01:44:14,080 --> 01:44:21,740
We have been involved to the extent that we had a staff member attend some of the meetings,

1313
01:44:21,760 --> 01:44:27,680
but not all of the meetings and recently we have been more present at the regular meetings

1314
01:44:27,680 --> 01:44:28,720
that we have been involved.

1315
01:44:29,780 --> 01:44:36,700
And when this organization, when this department first started, we were very short on staff in

1316
01:44:36,700 --> 01:44:37,960
in terms of getting personnel there.

1317
01:44:38,220 --> 01:44:40,640
So we were not involved as much as we are involved

1318
01:44:40,640 --> 01:44:41,980
at this particular time.

1319
01:44:42,920 --> 01:44:46,200
So in reference to the report,

1320
01:44:46,400 --> 01:44:48,740
we have provided written statements all along.

1321
01:44:49,360 --> 01:44:54,580
Whenever there was a draft document that was prepared by the IRWLMP,

1322
01:44:55,420 --> 01:44:58,940
we were always prepared written statements or comments.

1323
01:45:02,190 --> 01:45:29,850
Okay, because as I looked at, I mean, I didn't read every word of the plan. Don't get me wrong, but I did look at the different projects that are proposed in which ones are in the more park area and so forth. And what they might have coming down the pike. And I'm also thinking about our adding the whole idea about drainage and so forth to our top 10 priorities and

1324
01:45:29,850 --> 01:45:35,770
And I, for one, would like to be sure that we're going to be really, really, really involved

1325
01:45:35,770 --> 01:45:42,290
in this as it goes forward because the $25 million grant that they just got.

1326
01:45:42,990 --> 01:45:49,950
And because of, it looks like there's a whole future planning process that is about to begin.

1327
01:45:50,130 --> 01:45:54,150
I had some conversations with some of the people over in watershed protection about this.

1328
01:45:54,150 --> 01:46:00,430
and it looks like there might be some proactive opportunities for us to really be involved so

1329
01:46:00,430 --> 01:46:04,730
that it will fit with our top 10 priorities with respect to drainage and watershed issues

1330
01:46:04,730 --> 01:46:06,870
and so I really think it's important for us to do that.

1331
01:46:07,730 --> 01:46:13,070
The other thing I wanted to ask, and this would be to come back as a CV or something like

1332
01:46:13,070 --> 01:46:18,690
that for anybody else who wants it, but there were references to a number of water plans

1333
01:46:20,330 --> 01:46:24,350
that relate to us, for instance, the Urban Water Management Plan for Water Works District

1334
01:46:24,350 --> 01:46:25,010
number one.

1335
01:46:25,890 --> 01:46:30,470
You did give us the CD for this already, for this particular plan, which is great.

1336
01:46:31,710 --> 01:46:37,690
Perhaps the new Fox Canyon Groundwater Management Agency Management Plan that's coming.

1337
01:46:39,110 --> 01:46:46,310
And I think there was one I noticed, the Integrated Watershed Protection Plan 2005 Zone 3, which

1338
01:46:46,310 --> 01:46:48,990
just for I think our watershed.

1339
01:46:49,670 --> 01:46:51,810
Those are the ones that struck me at the moment

1340
01:46:51,810 --> 01:46:54,150
and I think it would be nice if,

1341
01:46:54,230 --> 01:46:56,830
and there might be some others that are really apropos

1342
01:46:56,830 --> 01:46:59,090
to us right here in the Kayegis watershed

1343
01:47:00,050 --> 01:47:01,250
for those who are interested.

1344
01:47:02,070 --> 01:47:05,310
I know I am, I would like to get a CD with it all in one CD,

1345
01:47:05,650 --> 01:47:08,250
so that I've got my water CD stuff all in one place

1346
01:47:09,390 --> 01:47:12,610
because I think that this stuff is really important

1347
01:47:13,570 --> 01:47:32,910
and I just wanted to bring this to everybody's attention in the sense that we have so much to do with respect to watershed and flooding issues that I thought it warranted pulling off the consent calendar to hopefully give some direction to keep the staff really, really heavily involved and maybe it will be anyhow, but I just wanted to be sure.

1348
01:47:34,390 --> 01:47:39,630
And so unless anybody else has any further comments, Dr. Micos.

1349
01:47:40,130 --> 01:47:49,250
Yeah, I would move to adopt the resolution, and along with the comments to keep staff very involved in this process.

1350
01:47:52,380 --> 01:47:55,240
Second, any further discussion? All in favor?

1351
01:47:55,580 --> 01:47:55,900
Hi.

1352
01:47:56,100 --> 01:47:56,540
We'd be ordered.

1353
01:47:57,060 --> 01:48:01,140
Item J, consider bond exonerations for Lanar and more park LLC, Dr. Micos.

1354
01:48:02,000 --> 01:48:10,740
I pulled this only to ask that that particular track is the track that has the

1355
01:48:10,740 --> 01:48:16,660
Vernal Pool and I wanted to follow up we had received an email from fellow

1356
01:48:16,660 --> 01:48:20,880
councilmember Van Dam and I just wanted to ask staff what their feeling was

1357
01:48:20,880 --> 01:48:25,600
with respect to the issue of the Vernal Pool and whether or not it's appropriately

1358
01:48:25,600 --> 01:48:43,040
We protected so that all parties who should have a role will have a role whether or not we should you know, you know, why we should or shouldn't really do this exoneration with respect to that. Is there anything really open that is Linar's responsibility?

1359
01:48:44,020 --> 01:48:47,800
If I may even though this isn't my staff report, I think I have the answer for you.

1360
01:48:49,620 --> 01:48:56,800
What might be appropriate to us and what meets the requirements of the conditions may

1361
01:48:56,800 --> 01:48:57,900
be two different things.

1362
01:48:59,280 --> 01:49:04,220
They have met the requirements of the condition with respect to the maintenance of the

1363
01:49:04,220 --> 01:49:04,840
vernal pool.

1364
01:49:05,720 --> 01:49:11,440
The waters continue to be separated for the open space to drain into the vernal pools

1365
01:49:11,440 --> 01:49:19,800
their area, the conservancy seems to be satisfied with that maintenance, however there are continue

1366
01:49:19,800 --> 01:49:27,260
to be problems in conflicts between what normal

1367
01:49:29,850 --> 01:49:35,390
residents would look at as an area that probably

1368
01:49:35,390 --> 01:49:41,890
should be introduced landscaping rather than native landscaping and conflicts in the

1369
01:49:41,890 --> 01:49:45,750
I mean, it's different to the opinion about what belongs native and what belongs in food.

1370
01:49:45,830 --> 01:49:54,490
Yeah, there's a particular area that along the rear yards of some homes where the water clearly is segregated as it comes down.

1371
01:49:54,490 --> 01:49:59,890
There is a slump block wall that's about three feet high in front of that wall.

1372
01:50:07,080 --> 01:50:29,760
On the other side of that wall is what residents considered to be their rear yard yet that vegetation there is native vegetation. I think that's patently wrong. And the Conservancy will not listen to any changes to the plan. There's a demarcation of landscaping as you go along some of the exterior slopes beyond the rear walls.

1373
01:50:29,760 --> 01:50:37,280
where it is introduced landscaping and then there is a straight line where it is all the sudden it's

1374
01:50:37,280 --> 01:50:45,720
needed material. To the layman to me it looks idiotic. Those things we cannot get through to the

1375
01:50:45,720 --> 01:50:53,660
conservancy that those seem inappropriate. They're really no brainers as far as we're concerned and they

1376
01:50:53,660 --> 01:50:59,060
probably think just the opposite to us that why can't we see that what they're trying

1377
01:50:59,060 --> 01:50:59,400
to do.

1378
01:51:00,000 --> 01:51:03,440
And we know they're trying to protect the vernal pools, but the association continues

1379
01:51:03,440 --> 01:51:10,320
to have problems with getting them out to do the fire, fuel modification.

1380
01:51:11,560 --> 01:51:15,160
When I was called the last year, I said just go ahead and do it.

1381
01:51:15,600 --> 01:51:16,300
Just do it.

1382
01:51:16,580 --> 01:51:18,040
You need to protect your homes.

1383
01:51:18,760 --> 01:51:21,820
And when the conservancy has a problem, send them to the city.

1384
01:51:22,640 --> 01:51:24,620
How did this affect the bond exoneration?

1385
01:51:25,020 --> 01:51:29,800
It doesn't, but that's your answer to your question about the Bernal Pools.

1386
01:51:30,020 --> 01:51:31,620
These bonds do not cover the Bernal Pools.

1387
01:51:32,060 --> 01:51:37,520
That is a totally separate, separate issue, and it has been fully funded by Lanar.

1388
01:51:37,780 --> 01:51:42,580
They've funded the $100,000, and I think it's the $20,000, and they have a 12-year period

1389
01:51:42,580 --> 01:51:45,960
that they have to go through, and they're about almost halfway through that period.

1390
01:51:46,580 --> 01:51:50,140
We've monitored each year, and they've provided us reports each year.

1391
01:51:50,140 --> 01:51:58,820
we've had them checked by biologists and the biologists agree, so I think it's unfortunate

1392
01:51:58,820 --> 01:52:03,800
this is not the best design for a Bernouc pool and development.

1393
01:52:04,460 --> 01:52:11,880
No, well, you won't get any argument for me on that one, but you know, if it will help

1394
01:52:11,880 --> 01:52:19,020
to have me try to meet with you or whoever and the concerns you represent is to try to at

1395
01:52:19,020 --> 01:52:24,500
At least come to a meeting of the minds, I will, but I have a feeling that it may be

1396
01:52:24,500 --> 01:52:32,900
the issue of not having back-to-back ornamental native.

1397
01:52:33,280 --> 01:52:40,300
We talk about transitional to natural areas, and it's probably something like that because

1398
01:52:40,300 --> 01:52:43,420
it's a key thing with respect to the ecosystem.

1399
01:52:44,280 --> 01:52:47,280
That's without even having asked anybody, that's what my guess is.

1400
01:52:47,280 --> 01:52:55,920
Well, there are a variety of issues and I don't think there's just one particular issue or one particular answer to it, but I've always been able to find a middle ground.

1401
01:52:56,240 --> 01:53:00,960
There is no middle ground. It was no. We are not going to consider any changes.

1402
01:53:01,360 --> 01:53:05,180
We're right. You're wrong. End of story. I'd be happy to.

1403
01:53:05,200 --> 01:53:13,760
Well, we don't have to talk about it now, but we should probably offline get a chance to talk about this and see what the issue is and see if there's some written plan that they're following

1404
01:53:13,760 --> 01:53:22,460
or some set of guidelines that perhaps are not sharing with you or something like that that might be able to make it clear.

1405
01:53:22,720 --> 01:53:25,300
I'll meet with you and we can see what we can do.

1406
01:53:26,020 --> 01:53:27,200
Mr. Van Dammeer.

1407
01:53:28,260 --> 01:53:31,160
It's not as much an ornamental versus natural vegetation.

1408
01:53:32,800 --> 01:53:41,420
The HOA, which serves 534 homes, is relatively clear on what areas can and cannot be planted.

1409
01:53:41,420 --> 01:53:44,420
that's not in dispute, we're not arguing that fact.

1410
01:53:44,840 --> 01:53:49,180
Where it ties into the grading and drainage issues,

1411
01:53:49,900 --> 01:53:54,720
is that there are areas that the plant material

1412
01:53:54,720 --> 01:53:57,320
has not fully developed over years.

1413
01:53:58,160 --> 01:54:00,240
And we have, there are drainage issues.

1414
01:54:00,700 --> 01:54:03,620
We need to replant those areas with what's appropriate

1415
01:54:04,110 --> 01:54:07,300
so that the runoff does not contaminate the rental pool

1416
01:54:07,300 --> 01:54:08,460
in those other areas.

1417
01:54:09,000 --> 01:54:12,920
That's where I believe this does come into the grading and drainage.

1418
01:54:13,640 --> 01:54:21,860
We need clarification for that area on what can be planted to prevent unnecessary drainage

1419
01:54:23,100 --> 01:54:24,160
into the rental pool.

1420
01:54:25,400 --> 01:54:29,960
And that's where I see that it does up connection and I appreciate staff's research on this

1421
01:54:29,960 --> 01:54:32,720
and look forward to additional research and getting this taken care of.

1422
01:54:33,140 --> 01:54:35,040
We may have to come back then with this item.

1423
01:54:35,040 --> 01:54:41,040
I think it's uncertain exactly the relationship of the grading and trail bonds to the

1424
01:54:41,040 --> 01:54:49,100
Vernal Pool, so I would like to take at least till the next meeting of the council on this.

1425
01:54:50,080 --> 01:54:56,980
So you can either be the other bonds are relatively minor but certainly those related to the grading

1426
01:54:56,980 --> 01:54:59,480
and trails should be carried over.

1427
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:07,180
The first one, and is it just the first bond? The, the,

1428
01:55:09,680 --> 01:55:11,020
we

1429
01:55:15,210 --> 01:55:32,870
can probably exonerate. You can exonerate. I'm just going to read the last four numbers. I'm sorry. The last four numbers of the bond, 4211, which is for, it doesn't show it in the staff report, but those are related to the monuments for the tract itself. There's no relationship there.

1430
01:55:35,430 --> 01:55:38,270
Okay. You're reading us that the last four numbers of the

1431
01:55:38,270 --> 01:55:43,190
the bond that we can't exonerate. This one we can't. It's unrelated.

1432
01:55:47,180 --> 01:55:51,160
42-45 could be exonerated.

1433
01:55:51,320 --> 01:55:55,460
That's related to streets. There's a lot of those.

1434
01:56:05,310 --> 01:56:09,750
42-37 is related to storm drainage not

1435
01:56:09,750 --> 01:56:18,350
related to the burnals pool. Are those the only three? Yes. So you're suggesting that those would be

1436
01:56:18,350 --> 01:56:21,870
I mean, the three that we could exonerate tonight and save the others for later.

1437
01:56:22,030 --> 01:56:23,810
It's three, but I'm not taking any of that.

1438
01:56:24,670 --> 01:56:25,790
Which is, but I'm not taking any of that.

1439
01:56:25,790 --> 01:56:26,450
I think there might be more.

1440
01:56:28,530 --> 01:56:29,350
Just those three?

1441
01:56:30,070 --> 01:56:30,450
Yes.

1442
01:56:31,650 --> 01:56:32,170
All right.

1443
01:56:32,270 --> 01:56:32,430
Well then.

1444
01:56:32,490 --> 01:56:34,690
Those three could be exonerated.

1445
01:56:35,070 --> 01:56:35,530
Mr. Van Dam.

1446
01:56:36,450 --> 01:56:37,630
I have nothing further.

1447
01:56:37,930 --> 01:56:44,710
I agree that additional research should be done, try to get a clear definition of what's

1448
01:56:44,710 --> 01:56:50,650
expected from the H.O.A., from the city, and from the Son of Monmouth Mountains.

1449
01:56:51,030 --> 01:56:51,670
All in a tent of motion.

1450
01:56:52,430 --> 01:57:04,210
I'll move that we exonerate only the bonds that end in 4237, 4245, and 4211, for what Mr.

1451
01:57:04,370 --> 01:57:09,990
CUNY suggested, and that the others we bring back at a future date after the research and

1452
01:57:09,990 --> 01:57:13,850
discussion has been done to see if there's something else, see if we have to hold them longer.

1453
01:57:14,710 --> 01:57:15,350
Mr. Mayor.

1454
01:57:15,950 --> 01:57:17,530
This is a point of discussion.

1455
01:57:17,870 --> 01:57:23,350
The relationship and responsibilities have been somewhat dysfunctional up there in

1456
01:57:23,350 --> 01:57:26,770
terms of people not understanding or not communicating.

1457
01:57:27,110 --> 01:57:32,970
So I think Dr. Micah's offer to talk to the Conservancy much as my relationship with CalTrans

1458
01:57:32,970 --> 01:57:37,070
where you have a certain level that is just doing something that you have decision-makers

1459
01:57:37,070 --> 01:57:42,630
that have the ability to perhaps appreciate or see other sides because clearly some things

1460
01:57:42,630 --> 01:57:46,870
This can be done out there, and I know that they've been done, for example, on the trimming.

1461
01:57:47,250 --> 01:57:50,050
I talked to Joe one time, and it was trimmed back.

1462
01:57:50,150 --> 01:57:54,950
They'd mark some plants very carefully, but it seems like there's some hardcore resistance

1463
01:57:54,950 --> 01:58:00,370
at the lower staff level to any combination, so to the extent that we can at least get everybody

1464
01:58:01,110 --> 01:58:05,090
or have a better understanding where we disagree, because I know Mr. Hogan has gone round and

1465
01:58:05,090 --> 01:58:08,270
round on this as well, so I'll be appreciated.

1466
01:58:08,690 --> 01:58:08,930
Good.

1467
01:58:09,810 --> 01:58:11,070
The motions are a second.

1468
01:58:11,330 --> 01:58:11,610
Second.

1469
01:58:12,030 --> 01:58:12,750
Motion is second.

1470
01:58:12,890 --> 01:58:13,570
Any further discussion?

1471
01:58:14,450 --> 01:58:14,990
All in favor?

1472
01:58:15,350 --> 01:58:15,490
Aye.

1473
01:58:16,130 --> 01:58:17,490
Good objection, so ordered.

1474
01:58:18,190 --> 01:58:19,450
We have no ordinances this evening.

1475
01:58:19,590 --> 01:58:20,830
Item 12 is closed session.

1476
01:58:20,890 --> 01:58:21,470
Mr. CUNY.

1477
01:58:21,650 --> 01:58:22,910
No need for closed session.

1478
01:58:23,050 --> 01:58:24,210
I want to attend a motion to adjourn.

1479
01:58:24,430 --> 01:58:24,990
So move.

1480
01:58:25,210 --> 01:58:25,630
Without objection.