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[0:00] Really? I think you're the senior. Okay, call on the meeting to order. Do we, do we have
[0:06] start with a motion to, no, I can't remember. And Todd isn't here today? No. So I think you
[0:13] start with the minute review. Okay. So, do we have somebody, has everybody reviews the minutes?
[0:24] Okay, any corrections? Well, great. Okay, so do we have a motion? Make a motion to accept
[0:46] The next on the list is Kenny right do it so I don't have a lot to share
[0:53] So they see the news about the big revotionization that got announced here recently, where we're
[1:00] going to do it any once ago, and it kind of got put on hold for a little bit, but they're
[1:04] moving forward with it nationally.
[1:06] They're in consultation with Congress right now, and so we may see some dominoes finally
[1:11] start to fall in terms of things getting moved around nationally, and you've heard about
[1:26] So the big USDA building in Washington, DC, the old ones, giant, they're selling it, they're
[1:32] getting rid of it.
[1:33] They created, I think, five regional hubs, people out of Washington, DC, into these regional
[1:39] hubs.
[1:40] So spread them out a little further across the country?
[1:43] I don't know if you're going to benefit this stand.
[1:48] Yes, I know.
[1:50] Okay.
[1:51] It depends.
[1:51] I think it just depends.
[1:53] They're thinking they're going to save a lot of money
[1:55] and then they're moving the cell aid
[1:56] where it's still really expensive.
[1:59] So I don't know.
[2:01] I don't know.
[2:02] We'll see.
[2:02] The idea is that you get some government workers closer
[2:04] to where the work's being done,
[2:06] and then they benefit some things.
[2:07] And it could.
[2:09] I just don't know.
[2:09] But that'll affect us.
[2:10] This is an RCS, a simple national structure will change,
[2:15] and we'll be fighting for our current state conservationist,
[2:18] but they call it regional conservationist,
[2:20] up there right now when it's active.
[2:23] And that position is being dissolved,
[2:25] and it's being put under one of the undersecretaries for NRCS.
[2:34] And so that position is going to get moved,
[2:35] and that will probably impact her
[2:37] and what eventually happens to our state come
[2:39] because we haven't had one for, she's been in that detail for a very long time, so we've had
[2:43] acting and other acting and other acting. So hopefully those dominoes will
[2:48] certainly fall and we'll get some permanent people in positions because we've suffered a little bit. I think
[2:55] over the last year and a half about clear, good direction at the state. So expect some news on that. They have to have a
[3:02] 30-day consultation period with Congress and that's now I think we're almost three weeks into that.
[3:08] so then they'll roll one on this little help thing and we'll see where that goes. It may affect us as a state, initially.
[3:16] They wanted to move people around. We've been internally in between field offices and they're targeting my clothes and a couple of them.
[3:23] And it kind of happens in impact on us potentially locally.
[3:27] So where's the decision-making coming from?
[3:30] Right at the top. I mean, there's more of a truck mystery to push team in. You know, they had the RP and Doge and, you know, there's big lawsuits and things, but the way in those are kind of starting to find the resolve and some decisions are able to move forward and the USDA realizations is one of those that.
[3:51] Okay, so it came from outside the USDA.
[3:54] Yeah, it came with a lot of USB, so funding cutting tried to cut
[4:00] progress, cut costs more or less. Cut costs. Yeah, there was talk they're
[4:04] going to reduce, you know, initially we kind of heard some other rumors that
[4:10] we're spread around, but initially they were going to cut our numbers, you know,
[4:14] pretty significantly, and so we were a little bit worried about that, but with the
[4:23] 11 to 12,000 nationally and we're down to about 8,000.
[4:27] So I don't know that we'll see a lot of cuts necessarily
[4:31] to our staff, even in Utah.
[4:34] We were cut probably about 30% with everything that's
[4:37] happened since the Crown for Administration came in.
[4:41] So I don't imagine that we're going to lose Utah employees
[4:44] as part of this, which is a good thing.
[4:46] Another big change that came about,
[4:48] so in the past, NRCS was pretty fortunate
[4:51] Because our state conservationists were a type of employee that were permanent, so even
[4:57] though a new administration would come in, they could keep those people higher as permanent
[5:03] employees and actually the chief of emergency aspect of Washington, it used to be one of
[5:08] those employees too.
[5:09] So you look at like farm service agency right now, their director or state director, every
[5:13] time a new administration comes in, they're going to get a new one, they're pretty much
[5:18] just political appointments.
[5:19] So, they've changed that in our state cons now, political, tentative political, and so's
[5:26] the chief.
[5:26] So, NRCS, one of the few agencies in the country that kind of wasn't that way, and provided
[5:34] some consistency with us in terms of how we worked and operated, and those kind of things
[5:40] weren't going to have that in them.
[5:41] So, a lot of some impacts, and that's too bad.
[5:44] So, we'll probably get new state cons as-
[5:46] You're going to lose your institutional knowledge.
[5:48] Yeah, yeah, well, I mean, we're not a political agency.
[5:52] So, you know, that's unfortunate.
[5:54] But it kind of will be now because they'll put in the people
[5:57] that, you know, the administration will come in
[5:59] and they'll kind of put in a yes man
[6:02] that wants to end with a pretty specific political maneuvers
[6:07] or whatever, but we don't know.
[6:09] Maybe, you know, maybe it'll be just this great,
[6:11] but I think we've been pretty lucky in the past,
[6:13] but so part of that reorganization,
[6:14] that's kind of one of the big things that'll impact us.
[6:19] locally we're just still writing a lot of contracts as soon as we're done I'll kind
[6:25] of bring a summary of you know how much we spent in the areas and how many contracts
[6:30] that equal. Looking forward to the next year are the way that we fund things with our strategic
[6:35] fund pools those are still going to be in place they were thinking about changing some
[6:40] of that but they're not going to change it very much. A few tweaks over there on that subject
[6:46] We've talked about putting in a remote grazing one and it's something that you probably
[6:52] had to think about if you want to put in person money for some remote grazing.
[6:57] We've kind of had some preliminary talks with some of us.
[7:00] That'd be for collars and collars, you know, grazing.
[7:03] We could include some fence in that, even trough, swatter.
[7:07] I know that the fence is intuitive with remote grazing.
[7:11] But there's some potential things that can happen with additional fence and
[7:15] association with the remote stuff.
[7:18] Defencing is pretty tight on what they allow you to actually fence, right?
[7:23] It's got to be internal fences.
[7:25] It's got to be internal fences that we can do border fences.
[7:28] It's pretty tight restrictions on when we can do them,
[7:32] but there are certain instances we can do and we have to go up to the state
[7:36] and that's the cancellation assessment of those situations.
[7:39] And we have approvals.
[7:40] Yeah, but we can justify it, but it's not impossible to do that.
[7:42] if situations are okay, usually it's like a land use change we can do on how if there's
[7:50] existing fence
[7:52] there's wildlife corridors that we can do accommodate. So land use would be like
[8:00] you're taking a piece that's been in multi-people raising and you're fencing off a piece of your own
[8:09] But that kind of made it count.
[8:11] Potentially, yeah, we could look at individual cases, and if we feel like we can kind
[8:19] of justify it, then we can send it up and get it approved for their own offense.
[8:24] But this remote grazing thing, if that's something that you think people that are interested
[8:28] in, we're looking at maybe doing a combined one between all the SCDs or all the conservation
[8:36] districts up here or if the conservation district wanted to just do
[8:41] one for themselves we could look at that too we could submit a couple we could
[8:44] do one for more and then to do one for yeah I've got some colors and I think
[8:49] there's some others in the county that would too yeah there's some interest out there
[8:52] I think so it's getting higher and higher every year anyway so but I think they've
[8:59] kind of fine-tuned it down to where it actually works pretty good so do you have to
[9:05] I mean, with respect to the collars, do you have to do your own tower or can you use existing towers?
[9:13] It depends on the type of the brand that you get and you work with.
[9:17] So, what would you do if you do go with what's a lot of the towers?
[9:22] These guys know as well.
[9:23] Ben says towers.
[9:25] Halter just recently went to satellites.
[9:27] So, no more towers.
[9:29] Oh my gosh.
[9:30] Right, satellites.
[9:43] Yeah, there's a lot of different providers. There's even one that's coming out with ear
[9:50] tags for what we've seen so. And we do help pay for a tower if that's the one that's
[9:56] I think I said a light one would be quite far the best coverage I don't know how money lies but
[10:02] there's pros and cons I think yeah you guys got them yeah I'd get close meet with the rats
[10:08] they've selling different things some do you know small acreage with you know a little better than
[10:15] they do and the others do large acres right a little bit better and so yeah but that's some of your
[10:22] You guys would be interested. We're just talking about remote grazing and maybe putting together a strategic funding proposal for remote grazing for Morgan County.
[10:33] Here wants more color, shall we?
[10:37] Sure.
[10:38] We just got a whole bunch.
[10:41] How do you spy a bunch more?
[10:43] They're working good, though, right?
[10:44] I mean, yeah.
[10:45] So how do they actually work?
[10:47] Do they work off of the regular self-hower and then they talk to each other? Is that correct?
[10:51] Yeah.
[10:51] Do you guys have some?
[10:54] Yeah, a lot.
[10:56] Who do you with?
[10:57] No fence?
[11:01] We have.
[11:02] We're a little late then, aren't we?
[11:04] Well, we already had 200 and we just got approved to do.
[11:10] Oh, did you play a grant?
[11:11] Yeah.
[11:12] Okay.
[11:14] Placed and did it like 200 more.
[11:17] Oh wow.
[11:19] He's running 200 already?
[11:35] So how do you charge them they did each one has to be plugged in take them off the cow plug a man every during the winter
[11:42] Yeah, there's solar these ones are solar and
[11:53] And they have a, you know, the battery in them and it kind of depends, it curves the
[11:58] one, those all about them, but it depends on how much a cow like tests the line and
[12:04] it's shocking them, how much it uses the battery, most of them, you know, last fine, but.
[12:13] But they actually have a solar thing right on it, color that actually charges them.
[12:19] Yeah, but they can't but they can't test it enough till they run the battery dead
[12:23] I mean because the shotgun is what uses the battery up. Yeah, it's pretty pretty handy
[12:32] We tried the biggest challenge we had is you can't keep them on bulls because the ones we got just go around their neck
[12:39] I mean, I know they're gonna come out like you say there's already something coming in a ear tag. Yeah, I mean
[12:44] I mean, you know, technology is going to get all pretty fast.
[12:49] This is pretty new.
[12:51] But their head down, they just...
[12:52] Well, yeah, their head's known as big as their neck, so you put them around a hole and
[12:58] they just...
[12:59] Can you show their hands?
[13:02] We actually...
[13:03] He bought some just ear tags and it doesn't, it won't keep them in place, but at least you
[13:12] track the bulls. So like if they're getting then you kind of see you know or your bulls because if you're
[13:22] holding your cows here and then the bulls leave I mean in nature they kind of go together but if
[13:30] you're holding the cows and the bulls take off then that's not good. So we wanted to be able to at
[13:37] were they were us so we could bring them back. They stayed pretty close for the
[13:44] most part.
[13:46] It's pretty amazing how much bulls are longer. They followed their
[13:51] nose.
[13:54] We had a bull, he was telling me we had a
[13:57] bull over here. We unloaded it in deep creek and it went right over into a
[14:03] turners immediately. We went and got it and hauled it clear over to enterprise, put it in with
[14:11] a hundred cows, it went over two ranges and it's sitting there by itself.
[14:19] You would never know that. Yeah. And he just spent all summer there by itself.
[14:23] Yeah, you never see it in a couple of.
[14:25] You've got to defend it.
[14:27] Yeah, I saw it.
[14:28] It wasn't that one.
[14:30] So I don't buy it in this fall for mine.
[14:32] I don't know what.
[14:33] I mean, so you would never know that kind of stuff.
[14:36] Jeez, you don't know idea.
[14:38] Yeah.
[14:39] I mean, he's doing it.
[14:39] No good whatsoever.
[14:43] Okay, cut and cows.
[14:46] 150 cows over here that are needing a bowl of yeast.
[14:50] I'm still trying to treat him under the shade tree in hand.
[14:55] Anyway, but very, that's true.
[14:58] It's 2026.
[14:59] Yeah.
[15:04] They are, they're, they're, they're a good deal. I think in colors and stuff. Yeah. If we think it'd be a benefit, we generate some interest. I know I'm definitely interested in some. Yeah. We've talked a lot. Okay. That's all I've got. If you guys that have any other resource concerns that you want to pursue some funds for, you guys know?
[15:31] the way that they're doing it now, they're not really a deadline, we have to submit a proposal
[15:35] by, they'll take a proposal anytime during the year, it'll evaluate it and they'll get
[15:41] it approved and then they'll just be ready for the next one. So if we get them in early,
[15:47] then we know we'll have for 20.7 million.
[15:56] I guess you care if I revisit something really quick. Just financials, can we go to financials
[16:04] for just a second. There are a couple of big, lovely deposits that I just need some
[16:13] context for before I do our financial report. So I'm assuming they're from you, Parker.
[16:24] Yeah because we just got so the one on June and or June 1st could be just a
[16:32] reimbursement because they're pretty small and they're like 2000. One of those
[16:40] is not from a reimbursement. One of those could be from Diars World 2 just taking
[16:43] in and out. But the one on June 29 was for 9,739, 41.
[16:51] I'm
[16:54] going to be probably combining these two mentors,
[17:02] you said 9,000.
[17:04] Yeah,
[17:16] 9,000. So I have another one that is for 7,769.
[17:29] I got nothing. I got whatever it says on Glacier Bank.
[17:33] let me see if it's got, if I can pull up the check for the deposit. So the grand total
[17:39] span of that chemical ISM was $9,966. What was it? $9,669. Well, that's not helpful. That's
[17:53] neither of them. But like I said, they probably combined everything because that's probably
[17:58] back of the world too. I'm just going to finance likes to combine stuff. Well but it wouldn't even
[18:05] work if it was combined because well I've got the one that's 9,000 9,739 and then I've got the
[18:14] one on July 6th. It was 7,769.
[18:25] I mean honestly Parker if you are fairly
[18:34] confident that that money is coming from you wish. I just need to be able to put it on a certain
[18:43] mine on my excel sheet. So if I can just put it under one grant, one or the other grant.
[18:50] I'm going for the total on the for the one ISM $9966 and what ISM is that just the chemical one.
[19:06] Okay, I'm just going to put that this $7,000 one was for bag of world grant.
[19:12] And then, if I see anything that bumps that up mysteriously, I'll put it in there.
[19:24] Okay.
[19:25] That's all I just needed to know.
[19:27] I mean, the only other deposit that would have had a good hand would have been Todd putting
[19:32] the money.
[19:33] That's what I think that the $2,000 ones down here are either reimbursement or him just
[19:41] transferring or withdrawing and depositing some.
[19:45] I mean, he kept it all out till the end and then everything back and everything wasn't
[19:50] back once.
[19:52] Did he?
[19:52] Okay.
[19:53] I think he gave me all of the stuff for that too.
[19:55] So that should be easy to find.
[19:58] It was just, I got on to see how much we had in there.
[20:01] And all of a sudden, I was like, whoo, that is.
[20:03] That looks so much healthier than my time.
[20:05] I was in here.
[20:06] So yeah, I figured something big had hit.
[20:12] So thank you.
[20:13] Well, we need to start writing checks out
[20:14] to the, yep, people on that on this break for this chemical.
[20:21] Do you have all that information, right?
[20:25] to the people that we need to start writing checks, dude.
[20:29] Is it all in that spreadsheet?
[20:30] It's in the spreadsheet and I'll share that Google Drive
[20:33] but I'll share it with you.
[20:34] It's got addresses, names, and all the above.
[20:37] And then I'll go.
[20:37] I think I've got it, Parker.
[20:38] If I don't, all of the money, we've got to make sure
[20:42] it goes to you for doing that, right?
[20:46] You do?
[20:47] So, I think I do.
[20:49] Right, I mean that.
[20:52] I don't know as a tip.
[20:55] Well, when you get done writing on them checks, you'll think, okay, that's what I needed.
[21:03] So, as they said, they were paying you double up and the admin is all not spreadsheet
[21:08] too.
[21:09] You'll see it's a little over $900 or something.
[21:12] Okay.
[21:14] I just, should I just do that in a lump sum at the end of the year?
[21:19] That probably the best way to do it.
[21:27] Okay, like now or like clear enough. I mean you can do it now. It's not gonna matter too much
[21:33] but the money's there now. So how do you want your Christmas bonus? Right? Maybe I
[21:43] want the place of a Christmas bonus. That's a great idea. Okay. Right? I'll tell you guys when it hits.
[21:52] And this would be a good time when I looked at our account. I was like, whoa, that's so good.
[21:56] I should give myself a bonus. Okay, that's all I needed with financials.
[22:03] Okay, here are the next top order. Okay.
[22:07] So just going along with the ISMs, they are active, so I'll just update our new chemical reinforcement forums
[22:16] and we'll just do the same thing last year.
[22:19] Just we'll get the word out to people and again it's there.
[22:22] We do have some equipment we can purchase,
[22:24] but let's see what Todd got with your guys' money
[22:27] and then we can kind of fill in the gaps too.
[22:30] What's the heat in that bottom?
[22:32] Yeah, and I can, do you want to see what he got?
[22:35] I can tell it to him.
[22:37] Does he need a rough, perhaps some kind of a contract
[22:40] or rental deal on them or how are we?
[22:42] We can, yeah, I can write something up.
[22:45] I
[22:57] haven't really talked to Todd about it. I know he ordered that stuff, but I have it. I have all of the documentation that I'll just send.
[23:07] Well, he gave him a check, didn't we?
[23:11] Yeah, we did. We gave him a check. He went to Tucker's time about a gift card.
[23:16] He ordered it all with a gift card, so that was very innovative of him.
[23:22] because they probably yeah because we had to order it all online and so yeah great so
[23:30] oh we do well I think of that we need to check today for these type for that amount we
[23:40] for the cancer that will frag my e spring as it's in and stuff so did we get a bunch of
[23:46] that spring Morgan that what we got the spring I'll do it later on yeah we're getting close to
[23:53] the spring at late in the fall no like late summer yeah I guess when I said I had to do it early so
[24:00] you can hit some of those what I've seen early it's a small beginning patch but if it's an established
[24:06] patch I have a big seed bank you gotta start in the fall no way you pull the down the roads and you
[24:12] start getting a good kill. But once it starts going backwards it's going to be a good
[24:17] thing. So, they've got the chemical. They have to get some of it in and everything.
[24:23] And we've already paid the guy to apply it.
[24:25] Oh, that's right.
[24:32] Nope, no. That's totally fine.
[24:37] So I reached out to, I just wanted to follow up on this with Kate and Ag Protection in the
[24:43] County because I talked to her a couple of months ago. She had to receive any
[24:47] applicants but then I sent her a text today and said hey is there any new
[24:51] applicant she said yeah we've had some people interested but she told them to
[24:55] hold off they're trying to redo some things on their side with the code to make
[24:59] sure it's up to date and so for those people you know we're still interested in
[25:04] that protection telling the hold off just a little bit till and August first
[25:09] which is September to go and reapply for that.
[25:12] But we're having a ton of conversation
[25:14] with the conservation districts
[25:15] about Ag Protection with UDOT's starting to go through stuff.
[25:21] If you've been through Hebrew Valley,
[25:23] you've seen what's happening in the North fields.
[25:27] If the longer Ag Protection is in place,
[25:30] the better fight you have against like UDOT
[25:32] and cities and counties.
[25:35] And it's just gonna help the cause for the producers.
[25:38] So, the sooner the better, just because there's development, there's neighbors moving in.
[25:44] So, the longer act protection is in, the more foundation you have to fight against people.
[25:52] So, yeah, just tell people whether to you or your neighbors, just tell them, like, please do it,
[25:59] because, yeah, they're dealing with a lot of issues up there, and it's a really good program.
[26:05] I'm happy to bring a thing again to talk about some of the code.
[26:09] We did that with Weaver County. We're going to do it up in some encampments, but
[26:13] just trying to hit that home to help producers out with that.
[26:17] But you guys have any questions on ag protection. I know we did that.
[26:21] Big night on ag protection and easements, but again, it's
[26:26] probably something I would give down as soon as possible.
[26:29] Probably this fall just because it is going to
[26:31] From what they told us, it's like 120 to 180 days to get it all processed through the county and all through the city.
[26:41] So yeah, it's a longer process so the sooner the better.
[26:47] I'm glad we got Kate pushing for that.
[26:51] Yes, she's doing a good job and she's doing a good job.
[26:55] So I just wanted to bring that back up because that was the focus of ours with that dinner
[27:03] and we just don't want to let that roll over and die.
[27:06] So can you keep up her cake and push me around that?
[27:10] Yep, yeah, absolutely.
[27:12] Yep, I'll follow up with her probably September and just see if they were able to get things finalized
[27:20] and that she does, I think we do a big email out
[27:24] and we can just do a little flyer,
[27:26] texted to people, say, go apply.
[27:28] Like now it's open, they've got it up and rolling
[27:31] just to keep it going and stuff.
[27:34] Okay, and also what we're talking about that,
[27:37] emails out, they told me that the county has a list
[27:41] of everybody that has ground in Greenbelt.
[27:46] If you could ever get us that list, that would be phenomenal.
[27:52] Then we could add that on to our email list or send out a list because they're the actual
[27:57] people we want to hit the ones that have green belt.
[27:59] What is the, I've thought Ag protection, I thought you might be referring to green belt.
[28:06] So what are you talking about when you say?
[28:09] So Ag protection is, it was put in code by the state to allow Ag producers some protection
[28:15] to kind of write the farm, so to say, so they can not deal with neighbor
[28:22] complaints about, like they don't have, they don't have, they don't like the smell.
[28:28] Okay.
[28:30] And with the expansion of roads, they can't impose on a farm, so they have to make sure gates are up to code.
[28:41] Fences are going to actually keep livestock in even fit equipment through if they do expand right away
[28:47] And so it it's just given the agriculture producers a backbone to have something to fly on
[28:54] So do you have to register? Yeah, see you through the city so if you're in the city limits
[28:58] You go through the city, but if you're in unincorporated or in the county limits, it goes through the county
[29:04] And Morgan is revising there?
[29:09] Yeah, just revising it because she said it's pretty old and they just need to update it.
[29:14] Okay.
[29:15] So, typically they can, it doesn't happen very often because it goes through the county board
[29:29] which is typically the conservation district.
[29:33] is the first people to hear about that protection
[29:36] and it's proposed there and then it goes to the county
[29:39] and the county commissioners to approve it, so to say.
[29:42] So it's gotta go through a couple,
[29:44] but it's for the most part of the aisle to go through,
[29:48] so that's a quick, good question for Kay,
[29:51] maybe some of these county recorders,
[29:53] I have never dealt with any that haven't gone through,
[29:57] so people like me, I can't see, maybe, but.
[30:00] So what do we need to do to get the city going on this as well? That would probably be a really good question for Kate to involve the city, because we're dealing with it. Ogden Valley having like a city councilman attend, as they're doing your code, so getting like a city councilman or the mayors involved too. If you know the mayor of a good contact for Morgan City, let's have him come and we can give.
[30:49] Yeah, that may not be a bad meeting to just have if they don't have a code in Morgan City just to help them to get a code for those that are interested in applying for act protection in the city.
[31:01] city. So I think we start with K let's get the counties in line in order and then we'll
[31:08] move to the city and then they can kind of adopt more than city to adopt that. So that
[31:14] would be my recommendation. That would be easy.
[31:18] So yeah that's just something I don't want
[31:21] to let die and I just yeah I know there's a lot of conversation around not only our zone
[31:26] just in different areas around the state. So another thing, so these are called ag shop grants,
[31:35] these are going to run through UDAF, these are going to be grand dollars they can use for outreach
[31:42] events, mainly soil health related so we can do like a no-till drill day, do something with the youth,
[31:50] those aren't available yet but we can start thinking about something to do for
[31:57] outreach whether it is just do a quick demo of those nontills we can get
[32:02] somebody from use that money to have some a rep come from great planes to show
[32:07] how to run the drill tips tricks and get a couple people to do some will speak
[32:14] a little conference is on it, so get somebody from the USU to talk and vice versa.
[32:21] So just something to think about for you guys, if you would like to do that, because somebody
[32:26] else's money is rather than ours for like real history kind of stuff.
[32:31] Yeah, this one would be incorporate this other stuff with it.
[32:33] Yeah, I'd have to be more, because it's going to be ranked out, so we're going to have to
[32:37] make sure it's probably strictly a soil health related, it probably won't tie well just
[32:44] to chip on to a really industry unless you brought like a soil speaker so to say or did like a demo
[32:50] day because those ones ranked pretty well last time but we could do that in the fall or maybe
[32:58] we could do a demo before the dinner and bring out a speaker and then give some people some burgers
[33:05] that night, so just make ready a district a little bit longer, so any of you can get
[33:13] somebody that's used it here in Morgan, or the drill.
[33:17] Yeah, I've had it.
[33:19] Yeah?
[33:20] No, it would be, especially if somebody's recently planted it, and you can go see it coming
[33:24] up vice versa, kind of, see it before and after, and go through there.
[33:31] So any questions, that's kind of just to keep that in your back pocket.
[33:36] I'll probably throw an application in, but just be thinking about that for the county.
[33:42] If something you guys would like to see, it probably just has a good idea though.
[33:48] Kevin, I'm just doing it before the brilliant district.
[33:51] We can just do a quick demo and give somebody to come speak about it and get a cup.
[33:58] maybe one or two guys from the USU and the dealer and so I helped another so
[34:04] health expert we could even get the rainfall simulator from Tell Me To and show
[34:10] why no tills important so yeah something to brainstorm I know we're a couple
[34:16] months away from that but this money probably won't be for this won't be
[34:21] available for this fall but probably 20 one of that 2027 so probably be the
[34:27] following really your district or a spring time event so yeah just something
[34:32] keeping back your mind and then I've
[34:40] got you guys a scope of work which is so when
[34:45] they sent out your $11,000 agreement they asked you to do like a scope of work so
[34:50] like what the conservation district is planning to do with their $11,000 and some
[34:57] some of the events. So, is that an HDMI cord behind you, Kathy?
[35:02] Yeah, you're a taxi.
[35:05] You're a taxi.
[35:07] Let's see. I'm going to just roll over there.
[35:09] But, I'm just getting input from you guys.
[35:12] The first gear.
[35:15] Yep.
[35:16] Is that right here?
[35:17] I don't know.
[35:18] Perfect.
[35:20] But it just kind of goes over some of the programs that you guys do.
[35:26] It goes over some of the programs.
[36:05] It's just a very general document. It does not. It just gives a state an idea of what is happening in a conservation district.
[36:13] So, for example, promote programs, attend look-a-worder meetings, administer support and train
[36:22] districts, district assistance, so including projects, so aid in any of these projects,
[36:30] dialogue world, not just weeds, and then supervisor training, make sure we're doing trainings,
[36:36] modules if we're doing conferences so I'll just being up to date on new
[36:43] practices and then reviewing any like auditor trainings, supervisor involvement
[36:49] just making sure we're attending zone meetings are monthly meetings and that
[36:56] reporting our serum forms and then we're vice versa so education and
[37:03] Byrathon, if you guys do have an Byrathon team that you provide them with either scholarships or opportunities.
[37:15] I'm going to post the UACD and UDF website or your own Facebook page, the 10 county commission meetings,
[37:24] I'm sorry, I have a county commissioner in attendance, host tours, and then for compliance
[37:32] and reporting we're going to do budget contracts, the work, and then association use contract
[37:38] to NACD, UACD.
[37:40] So again, very, very general, but this kind of gives the steady idea of some of the programs
[37:49] that the conservation district is involved in and what's happening with them.
[37:54] But any questions, anything you'd like to see or add in or remove?
[38:01] You've got that.
[38:02] They're thing there is going to the zone meetings, but what about?
[38:06] Do you have the, what you do have the and UAC and you'll leave right there?
[38:11] Okay.
[38:15] Even though if we all go, you can't afford to pay everybody.
[38:18] But we
[38:27] can say, see, we told you we was going to do this.
[38:31] Any questions, anything you'd like to see or change?
[38:34] Or do
[38:40] you have something there on the drill, sorry?
[38:47] No, I do not.
[38:48] But we should definitely have something there on the shelves.
[38:53] to find their under district operations.
[38:57] So let me all add that though to it when I sit down,
[39:00] add that real quick.
[39:02] So I have a question.
[39:05] Do you, are you aware of other conservation districts
[39:08] that do more use outreach?
[39:12] I mean, I feel like you do the bag of load,
[39:15] but I'm just curious,
[39:17] does anybody else do anything like that?
[39:22] So that's one thing. We've had a ton of conversations with just among UDAF of how do we get younger kids involved?
[39:31] Because that's where we're really struggling.
[39:34] Diageload, great. We're getting the youth involved.
[39:36] But how do we get like FFA or 4H groups to maybe one or two to sit down on me?
[39:46] I mean, what happens in a conservation district meeting?
[39:49] What happens with the note to a drill,
[39:51] do some of these conservation projects?
[39:53] So they've talked about on-ernie board members,
[39:57] or maybe just having the FFA advisors,
[40:00] maybe one or two of them attend meetings,
[40:03] just so we can get input, support them, they support us.
[40:07] But it's kind of, we're in the brainstorm part
[40:10] of the conservation districts being involved with the youth.
[40:14] because I think we're missing that vote.
[40:17] I think you guys are doing really a job with the bag of load.
[40:21] I think now we can just kind of expand into that.
[40:24] And we do farm field days.
[40:26] And I think if we got involved with the high school kids
[40:29] that are about to decide, all right,
[40:31] are we going to, am I going to go into ag or natural resource
[40:33] or am I going to go into another major vice versa?
[40:38] So thoughts, I mean, that's everything for thoughts
[40:42] some discussion. I mean, years ago I went, one of the FFA teachers invited me to come
[40:49] and we just did the, I just did the slide show on like why the conservation districts
[40:54] were born, but, I mean, you could expand on that. We, way off for that scholarship, yeah,
[41:06] And we haven't even had anybody apply, I mean, I don't even know if we did it last year.
[41:11] I mean, I don't think we received any applications, so we definitely, how do we get our name out there?
[41:18] I mean, you didn't let them know there's no need there.
[41:21] A lot of these kids, I work with the FFA with a lot of stuff, but they don't really even know what we are.
[41:29] Yeah. Well, he was superb influence with the FFA now because one of the FFA teachers
[41:36] here in Morgan is now on the conservation board in Canvas. So, he would be a good resource.
[41:44] Really? Yeah. I mean, would it benefit to get some of the kids in the FFA to come join
[41:51] this meeting once in a while or something? Yeah. Not that that would interest them at all.
[42:02] So, I know, like, on the scholarship applications, that if you have more pouring down that money, you can kind of rank them, or they can do presentations in front of you guys.
[42:15] I don't know.
[42:16] We've got to get one more.
[42:19] So maybe when we use some fire in the days, we scholarships available, this is kind
[42:25] of the criteria.
[42:27] Wasn't a part of the problem with that, it was the school one of you side who got it,
[42:33] the scholarship.
[42:34] You don't have to, you don't have to do that, they want you, but you don't have to.
[42:39] The biggest problem is that it's not reimbursable, yeah, you just have to, that just comes out of
[42:47] I don't know, Mark II and what do we usually do...
[42:52] We usually do had a 25- Second and think if they get this one they can move on and try
[43:00] to get the zone one which is a thousand.
[43:05] That's what's like the quilt and what the odds are.
[43:07] every day. Right, right. So, I mean, it seems like me, the last few we didn't get any
[43:21] applications and when we did, they ended up not using them. We haven't paid out on
[43:26] one of them for a long time.
[43:29] I guess how do we boost that out there to get more
[43:33] people in there. Maybe one of the criteria is we've got to participate in two or three
[43:40] of the meetings and then they've got to do a presentation. So maybe a little bit more
[43:45] rigorous, but get them involved in a couple of meetings. Not just get to check and then walk
[43:52] out, but they've got a criteria. You've got to come to two meetings and then you've got to
[43:56] you're going to find the presentation on what you want to be like.
[44:02] What you want to be like.
[44:03] What's the sort of an application I mean?
[44:05] So, like, if nobody's applying, they're certainly not going to be that.
[44:08] Yeah, yeah.
[44:09] Make a order.
[44:10] Let's try to get some people to apply to the first and then.
[44:13] What if you upped it?
[44:14] I feel like $250 because I don't know.
[44:16] You're like a one textbook.
[44:18] Oh, maybe.
[44:18] I think I'm going to be like, this isn't even worse.
[44:21] My effort.
[44:23] I don't know.
[44:23] I think it was pretty simple if you put it in the application a lot of years, you got
[44:28] 250 letters.
[44:30] I think the trick was, like, they had to be going into something, agricultural and related.
[44:37] So.
[44:39] What if I make a couple of flyers that we can put out in schools?
[44:43] At least, I don't think they even know that it's a bit more.
[44:49] Yeah,
[44:53] I know.
[44:53] I'm going to change it in the ag.
[44:55] We got three ag teachers over there now.
[44:58] Really?
[44:59] No.
[45:00] High school have a, um, like a guidance counselor that's just over scholarships, like a lot of high schools do. Yeah, that's probably somebody we should get it. But see that when you start getting within with the school, then they want to decide. But you
[45:19] can set any guidelines you want. Yeah, what's the problem with the school? What was the, was there an issue with the school deciding?
[45:36] But as long as you set the guidelines, you know, like if they're going into Ag and this
[45:42] and that, we have to make them decide it may get more applicants towards it, too.
[45:49] Yeah.
[45:49] If there's a guidance counselor, they're meeting with the student.
[45:52] They know what they're going to be going into and they can save.
[45:56] Yeah.
[45:57] Yeah, maybe getting a bunch of flyers we can take to the school and give to the guidance counsellors or whoever however
[46:05] Okay, what's the people that are pushing for the scholarships for the kids aware of rather than the kids themselves?
[46:12] So what's the amount you guys would like?
[46:14] In the past you guys used to do
[46:18] At least when I was here you would do 500. Yeah
[46:21] I got one that dropped out of all the stuff you do and you can make a mission through that.
[46:27] I mean, my kids all went into Ag and they was not on my edge, and they do paperwork.
[46:33] I was front and back up with you.
[46:35] Well, yeah, they were simple.
[46:37] And I'm like, do they know how simple?
[46:40] Like, they didn't know what to do.
[46:41] I told them my kids both went into Ag and the other one of them.
[46:46] Do you have your kids applied for it?
[46:47] I know this.
[46:49] Some of them.
[46:50] Can anybody else say, you're 20 years old?
[46:52] You've turned it in $500, $250, whatever it was.
[46:58] I know that some scholarships, you qualify for just based
[47:03] upon your curriculum, the classes that you take.
[47:07] And so I almost wonder if you could base it strictly
[47:11] on how many years you were involved in the FFA, or even
[47:16] they don't have to fill out the application necessarily.
[47:19] but their teacher can be like you've been in FFA for three years now and you're going to
[47:24] do a state for this would you like this scholarship and then the teacher can just submit it and say hey
[47:33] I don't know. I like to say it was pretty simple. That's pretty. I have two kids.
[47:43] I just think for the new generation, it's coming out on the road, and the papers too much work for a free money.
[47:50] This thing, and then not only that, I mean it's not just 500 because then you move forward to the zone one, you know.
[47:59] So I mean it could ultimately be 1500, which I mean I guess when death just pays the bills anyway it don't matter.
[48:10] You're the problem, Jason.
[48:12] Maybe the parents think they can fill it out.
[48:14] Emily, how are you doing?
[48:15] That's what I did.
[48:17] But on your phone, just a QR code, honey.
[48:21] Oh, yeah.
[48:22] Can you do any class?
[48:23] Yeah.
[48:25] We even opened it up one year to, like, kids that were already in college, you know, from
[48:38] I think it's just that we're not getting the word, I don't know, my kids got the word.
[48:47] I think you set it up where they can scan a QR code and just punch their name in a few
[48:53] questions in.
[48:54] Yeah, kids love playing on their phones now, and then all these are getting a lot of interest
[48:59] Just then you look at something like what you're doing with that, but let's try to get
[49:04] some interest in it.
[49:05] First.
[49:06] I think we get it to the guidance counselors in the schools and a few things like that.
[49:10] Like I say, things are kind of have changed.
[49:13] You've got Skyler,
[49:17] you know, now Hayley has one that's like full time there.
[49:22] See you here in morning.
[49:22] and Hannah ran into it's like, we
[49:30] got three items.
[49:32] Okay, I'm just right there, back at the day.
[49:38] I think that's it.
[49:39] I just want to make sure the kids know what a conservation district is.
[49:43] I think that's the big thing, a big ball.
[49:46] Well, and even if, you know, I understand that it's hard for kids to go in to ask.
[49:50] But you know, if you get somebody like involved in the conservation district
[49:55] whether they was going into ag or not, a lot of people are in conservation whether they're
[50:02] in ag or not. Right, I mean there's the whole soil water dimension to it, so we could even make it
[50:08] bigger if people are interested in that. Try to get people. And I think we should, you know,
[50:15] the bag of wood and you do farm field days, we used to do like
[50:23] the baby animal days, but that's
[50:25] getting like the younger you need to try to target those you know so who does the farm field
[50:34] base is that the ag people are doing that yeah perfect seeing that my dad used to be part of that
[50:43] well my land used to put it on up but you guys is placed here to go and then when my land quit
[50:49] doing it and it kind of died and then Desiree when she was here she picked it back up and we
[50:56] was doing it as a conservation district but then we turned it over to the FFA and said you guys
[51:04] do this will help you with whatever you need. They do it every year and we and we go we have a few
[51:12] stations. And so it is happening. So we are still part of it then. Yeah. I mean these guys are,
[51:20] you get, you know, the fairgrounds, right? That's where we come over and help cookers or
[51:25] no, no, they just, they just have all the stations.
[51:32] Yeah, they do like sheep or shears and some sheep,
[51:36] There's a horse. There's some life. We usually send somebody from our group to do the beef station.
[51:45] I don't think I'm going to be able to. These guys go through. I know. We do the watershed models.
[51:53] I don't think they do that. I don't think they do that.
[51:56] It's a classic. I've done the watershed for all of the time.
[52:00] Kids love it.
[52:04] Okay. We need to look.
[52:05] That's all I get in that.
[52:07] So, okay, I always just make a flyer and just something to get out.
[52:10] I think just, like, they participate in bag of load,
[52:14] but they don't know who is the conservation district
[52:18] and how they can be.
[52:19] Well, and if, you know, maybe even go present to a few classes.
[52:25] Yeah, I mean, I think that would go a long way, it's honestly.
[52:29] Yeah, I think a little more contact through at the year,
[52:32] because I feel like we're sort of, you know, we hit him,
[52:34] But even if there was even a seasonal kind of thing and it was just like raising awareness
[52:39] I'm not I don't know what we would do, but I just can see that as
[52:43] Over the long-term, you know reaching more people
[52:47] Well, and you know like I've got these contacts
[52:51] I've been I've had with the FFA
[52:53] You know for diars won't and and this stuff, but they still even that close. They don't really know what we do
[53:02] So, you know, now they've been doing this going to the classrooms, if we went in and said,
[53:08] you know, okay, you guys have been helping us with this, but this is what, this is the
[53:14] whole picture, you know. So, I think going in, and it fits into their curriculum, if you
[53:22] hit it on the right, if you talk to the FFA teachers, they're like, okay, this is, they go
[53:27] and the conservation and that's the time we need to go like how do we get it
[53:33] every year and that curriculum like it's a part like so a conservation
[53:36] issue like I talked to yeah talk to Skylar and probably probably a good idea I
[53:44] don't tell Skylar I see I've been with him all week and I've been over there for
[53:49] Well, last two days, when you were there, you couldn't have.
[53:53] I was too.
[53:54] Yeah.
[53:56] This would cook dinner and breakfast for all.
[53:58] Whole bunch of everything over there.
[54:00] Oh really?
[54:01] Yeah.
[54:01] Is there an end-cult thing all the,
[54:04] northern Utah, the officers from all northern Utah.
[54:11] 250.
[54:13] Where was that?
[54:14] At the programs.
[54:16] Because I didn't have enough to do so.
[54:23] Okay, that's all I have, so thank you, you're up.
[54:31] The bloggers came in, say, and so.
[54:36] I was going to give this to you when I realized it would actually have any useful information.
[54:40] I have the invoice.
[54:42] Scott, I mean, Todd forwarded it to me, so we're good.
[54:44] Great. I was going to bring them, but I looked in the housing I have is too small so I'm going to look at it once.
[54:53] I'm also in the road but I have to resell it.
[54:56] But I think they're both for you.
[55:00] Well, the other one just went in and there's not much water to put them in.
[55:06] Yeah, it just turned out fast.
[55:08] Which one did you put in?
[55:11] I put the line curriculum in.
[55:17] I don't have anything for Jacob's or Dolphin.
[55:21] No, it's Peterson Crick.
[55:23] You give me Peterson Crick and Lyne Crick.
[55:25] Yeah, I'm saying I don't have, like, there's nothing out in Jacob's or Dolphin.
[55:30] Right.
[55:30] Well, there is one in Dolphin Crick.
[55:32] That's the one I never had before.
[55:34] Maybe.
[55:35] Maybe.
[55:37] The one in Peterson Crick.
[55:39] Yeah.
[55:39] Why not?
[55:40] Okay, cool. I see. Well, if I get to it soon, I'll give them to you. And if I don't get to it soon, they're probably not getting water. So, I'll see what I can do.
[55:50] You better hurry.
[55:52] That water is going fast.
[55:54] Okay, and the other thing is my presentation.
[56:00] Are we? Are we good for that?
[56:04] Sure.
[56:06] The one we wouldn't let you do last week, yeah.
[56:09] As long as it takes five minutes.
[56:12] Don't I need to be patient?
[56:14] Five minutes.
[56:20] One, two.
[56:24] No, that's not good on button.
[56:26] Did you get another one more for you?
[56:30] Just the extended button.
[56:32] It's a good presentation.
[56:34] You don't want to go get it?
[56:38] It's good for one to go around on that floor.
[56:40] for a couple because you can get them off of it out of the couple but I've got some things I can get to.
[56:48] I'm having a brain part which is the extend button.
[56:55] Maybe it won't work.
[56:57] Yeah, maybe it won't work.
[57:05] There's an extension.
[57:07] Is that what you mean?
[57:13] Oh, you just have to go into it and then close out of that and then go up to the side
[57:20] show, the little drop down under the side show, and then you go to present.
[57:24] Well, it's showing both of them.
[57:26] Oh.
[57:26] Maybe I need this.
[57:27] Yeah.
[57:29] Full screen.
[57:30] Full screen.
[57:31] Start the side show again.
[57:33] No.
[57:35] It's duplicating and I want you to accept the little axe up in the corner, so I'm not
[57:43] actually home.
[57:48] I'm so confused.
[57:53] Somebody's got something back.
[57:56] We never introduced you.
[57:59] Who are you?
[58:00] Because I was late.
[58:01] I know what you're doing.
[58:02] I know what was late as me.
[58:03] That's why I was asking.
[58:04] Did Maggie send you?
[58:05] I came for this. I get emails about your meetings. I don't. Sorry, I'm one of those that doesn't understand, but I wanted to see the watershed and I'm very concerned about it.
[58:16] Oh, okay.
[58:16] Well, it's okay.
[58:18] It's okay.
[58:20] Well, it's okay.
[58:20] Wow.
[58:22] It'll pressure you out.
[58:23] It'll pressure you out, really.
[58:27] Well, she can't get it on the screen. We'll put you next to her.
[58:30] We'll put you next to her.
[58:30] We'll put you next to her.
[58:31] We'll put you next to her.
[58:33] I missed your name, what did you say? Kelly, round me. Nice to meet you.
[58:38] I guess we should all go around and do some quick dinner, don't we?
[58:41] Yeah, so I think you and I will get some some more coming off on with the Natural Resources
[58:44] Conservation Service, Federal Agency. So we work closely with the Conservation District's
[58:49] area. Oh, you guys have some cutbacks, huh? My offend, but I need to turn it on.
[58:53] We've got it. But you know, I'm talking about Army Corps.
[58:56] Oh, that's good. I hope a lot of us have got that. It's down still here.
[59:02] I'm sorry I'm Jason Warren I'm the chairman of the conservation district has no interest in water
[59:19] Thompson I'm on the board. I'm Emily
[59:24] Bishop bias. I'm the Weber River watershed coordinator. I'm Kathy James. I also did am on the board and I live in mountain green
[59:34] And I'm Kevin Thurston and I'm on the board.
[59:37] I've heard your name before.
[59:39] Oh.
[59:41] Don't forget to get a name.
[59:44] I can't remember when I heard that.
[59:47] And I'm Jessica Reynolds.
[59:49] I am the watershed coordinator with the Libra River Partnership
[59:51] We're a nonprofit that operates in Libra, Morgan, Davis.
[59:56] Oh, God.
[59:57] Yeah.
[59:58] And some counties.
[59:59] More of.
[1:00:04] Thank you, Mortensen. I'm the clerk for the district.
[1:00:12] I'm the resource, resource coordinator. I work with the Utah Department of Agriculture and Food. Oh, very good. Thank you.
[1:00:20] I'm Gsackinson, I'm a partner with UDAP, and I'm
[1:00:27] sorry that we didn't introduce
[1:00:30] you.
[1:00:30] Yeah, I just thought I would sneak in.
[1:00:32] You were really good quiet.
[1:00:36] Okay.
[1:00:37] This could be a discipline thing to you because you're generic.
[1:00:42] It's not specifically for this watershed.
[1:00:46] Okay, so I created this PowerPoint as one of my stretch goals for stuff that I think
[1:00:54] all of these should be aware of and understand.
[1:00:58] You might already.
[1:01:00] It's always good to hear it more than once.
[1:01:02] So I've kind of divided it into four sections, equilibrium, and all that affects river movement
[1:01:10] the way that we categorize rivers, stream restoration methods, and then what I do when
[1:01:17] I'm out water quality monitoring, they take 15-ish, first one's a little long and the other
[1:01:25] two are a little shorter, or the other three are a little shorter.
[1:01:28] So I can do one and we can stop or I can do two.
[1:01:41] I said we can stop after one, but okay so the most important thing to understand about
[1:01:49] a river is that it's always trying to reach equilibrium in terms of sediment transportation.
[1:01:54] So equilibrium is achieved when a balance is achieved between the capacity to transport
[1:02:00] sediment in the amount of sediment there is to transport. So changes in the amount of water
[1:02:06] or sediment in a river will change how the river behaves. The options for these changes are either
[1:02:12] deposit sediment, a road sediment, or do nothing. So you need to understand these principles of
[1:02:19] equilibrium in order to understand why rivers act the way they do. So points one and two are saying
[1:02:25] very similar things. The first one is that channel dimensions are adjusted to the dominant
[1:02:30] sediment and water discharge. I'm going to say discharge a lot, and that's just, it's
[1:02:36] either the amount of water or sediment, in this case I'll be talking about water. So number
[1:02:40] one is essentially saying that the size and regularity of floods will determine the channel dimensions.
[1:02:47] Point two is emphasizing that the adjustments that are ever made to a dominant sediment and water
[1:02:52] discharge are fairly predictable. They're systematic. The next one is that change from one point
[1:02:58] to the next is minimize throughout the river system. Another way of saying that is that
[1:03:03] rivers don't like fast changes. They will eliminate them. Next, equilibrium can be maintained while
[1:03:09] the channel migrates laterally. In other words, stability does not equal stativeness. And the last
[1:03:15] principle is that there is continuity and sediment transport from headwaters to the mouth,
[1:03:20] off-flowing water carries sediment.
[1:03:23] Okay, so the first principle is that channel dimensions are adjusted
[1:03:27] to the dominant sediment and water discharge.
[1:03:30] So you have a channel that is formed under a series
[1:03:33] of small to moderate discharges,
[1:03:35] or to keep things really simple, a hypothetical channel
[1:03:38] that is formed under the constant flow of 13CFS.
[1:03:41] So if we were to measure the amount of water in the channel
[1:03:44] from bank to bank, filled all the way to the top,
[1:03:46] it would be 13CFS.
[1:03:48] Yes, eventually there will be a large flood, so that channel is going to increase in size
[1:03:53] because the extra water can take on more sediment, so it gets pulled from the channel.
[1:03:59] However, a flood that a really large flood would be like a 50 or 100 year flood, so those
[1:04:04] flows won't be maintained to keep the channel that big.
[1:04:08] So eventually the channel will fill back in with sediment until it perfectly holds that
[1:04:12] 13 CFS again as long as the base discharge is still 13 CFS.
[1:04:17] So, the channel is adjusting to the dominant discharge.
[1:04:22] The second principle is that dimensions of a channel change in a systematic way with
[1:04:27] fluctuations in discharge.
[1:04:29] So, basically rivers all over the world change in expected ways with similar changes in
[1:04:34] discharge.
[1:04:35] The graph on the left is kind of hard to see, but each line is a river, and these rivers are
[1:04:40] from different places, such as Kansas, Wyoming, and Alabama.
[1:04:45] On the left is width, depth, and velocity from top to bottom.
[1:04:50] The lines are pretty parallel, which tells us that an equivalent increase in discharge,
[1:04:55] which is the variable on the x-axis, streams change in the same way.
[1:04:59] So if chalk, Greek, and the Mississippi River both receive a 15% increase in discharge, their
[1:05:05] dimensions will change in the same way, even though they're very different sizes.
[1:05:09] So we can use these patterns to predict how rivers will behave under different surfaces.
[1:05:15] Another thing to mention is that urbanization can drastically change stream behavior.
[1:05:20] In general, rural streams hold more water at baseline than urban streams, but when there's
[1:05:25] a flood, they behave differently.
[1:05:27] So urban streams get a huge discharge of water all at once, mostly because everything is
[1:05:33] impervious surfaces which is run straight off. Something that can be devastating to the
[1:05:40] landscape in a rural setting, but it's so much worse for urban settings because there's
[1:05:46] much more infrastructure to damage. A rural stream will typically have more of a floodplain
[1:05:51] available so that water doesn't rush down the channel at once and the energy can be dissipated.
[1:05:56] And these changes are predictable for urban and rural streams.
[1:06:00] Next principle is that change from one point to the next is minimized throughout the river
[1:06:05] system.
[1:06:06] AKA rivers don't like fast changes.
[1:06:09] Any fast change we impose onto a river will have major consequences that we probably
[1:06:15] won't find.
[1:06:17] Straighten channels and constrictions are probably the most common examples of fast changes.
[1:06:23] Rivers of all sizes meander in the same way, the angles and sizes of those meanders are
[1:06:28] directly proportional to the size of the stream and the meanders are where sediment deposition
[1:06:35] happens. So when we straighten a channel we increase velocity so there's no chance
[1:06:41] for water to slow down and drop any sediment. The river will try to reform those meanders
[1:06:46] and reach equilibrium again. It just depends on how much water it's going to get to make
[1:06:52] make the changes.
[1:06:53] What extreme stabilization, is that if you go in and, like, they're going to do on our
[1:07:03] place, they're coming in to put all the trees in there, is that a good thing?
[1:07:06] Trees are okay, hard, hard stuff like roof rack and rock.
[1:07:10] That's why they're in the trees.
[1:07:11] Yeah.
[1:07:13] It's a really good firewood.
[1:07:16] It was.
[1:07:17] It won't be wet since it's in the water.
[1:07:20] I don't know.
[1:07:21] I'm sorry.
[1:07:22] It's okay.
[1:07:24] If you're unsure if a channel has been straightened, they probably
[1:07:27] ask. You can often tell just by looking, but perhaps it has started to reform
[1:07:31] meanders and was once straightened. You could check an old map to see, but also if
[1:07:37] a river is pressed up against a valley side, it was probably straight in. It's an
[1:07:40] municipal area, it's probably straightened. We have affected, I don't know, the
[1:07:45] percentage, but probably at least 90% of rivers in America.
[1:07:50] Yeah.
[1:07:52] Sharp bends are very common when two straight and channels meet, and again, that's something
[1:07:56] that the river will try to reform those smooth handers.
[1:08:00] So rivers also don't like rapid vertical changes.
[1:08:03] Like this slide says, rivers will eventually form a smooth concave profile to minimize changes
[1:08:09] in slope.
[1:08:10] Obviously, we do see fast vertical changes in nature that would be a waterfall.
[1:08:14] So this doesn't mean that rivers are actively trying to eliminate waterfalls.
[1:08:19] And this principle is what is dominating the movement of headcuts.
[1:08:23] So they move backwards because the river is trying to smooth out the drop.
[1:08:27] It obviously can't add sediment to get back up so the only way to smooth the grade out
[1:08:31] is to remove this sediment.
[1:08:33] So if we use great control structures to deal with the headcut and stop it from moving, it's
[1:08:39] important to make sure that the materials are the appropriate size because the river will
[1:08:43] not stop trying to remove a head cut just because it's been armored. It's just going to take a larger
[1:08:48] flood to make the changes. So the materials need to be large enough to withstand the decent flood.
[1:08:54] Rivers also don't like dramatic changes in width. A constriction will result in dynamic changes
[1:08:59] on the other side and a great natural example of this is a channel being constricted by bedrock
[1:09:05] on both sides that eventually opens up into a wide oluvial fan on the other side of the bedrock.
[1:09:13] Constricted channels move faster, so think about how much faster water shoots out of a hose when you put your thumb over it.
[1:09:20] This is the same thing. Moving quickly means the stream will pick up sediment without being able to drop it.
[1:09:26] So on the other side of the constriction, the river will naturally slow and drop sediment because it's always trying to reach equilibrium.
[1:09:33] Another common constriction is an undersized culvert.
[1:09:36] For other than maintaining a high speed and having a sudden slowdown, the water already
[1:09:41] has somewhere else to go, but it can't fit into the culvert all it wants.
[1:09:46] So the slowdown on the upstream side will impact the culvert, oops, on the downstream side.
[1:09:52] And I'll talk about that a little bit more later, but just know that culvert is going
[1:09:57] to have an impact on river behavior because it's a fast change, any culvert.
[1:10:01] The fourth principle is that equilibrium can be maintained while the channel migrates
[1:10:07] laterally, or a stable stream is not a static stream.
[1:10:11] This is a big one that we as humans have a really hard time.
[1:10:15] Everything about sediment transport, everything is about sediment transport.
[1:10:19] So a stream can still be an equilibrium even as it's moving back and forth.
[1:10:23] The dimensions of a stream in equilibrium will not change as it moves.
[1:10:28] So here's a cool graphic I found to really illustrate this principle, which is almost 30 years
[1:10:35] of movement, and there is a single bank on this river that doesn't need it, especially
[1:10:39] look at that tributary off to the left, it completely changes its course.
[1:10:44] Humans expect rivers to stay right where we want them.
[1:10:48] That bank was right there when I was a kid, it's just over there as an adult, but we're really
[1:10:52] setting ourselves up for failure when we think that way, because if the flood is big enough
[1:10:57] the river will always win. They need space to move louder really. That's what a healthy river does.
[1:11:03] The last principle states that there's continuity and sediment transport from the headwaters
[1:11:08] to the map. Basically, off-loading water carry sediment, so sediment is always moving through the
[1:11:13] river system. Okay, so off-loading water carry sediment, and that sediment is in theory,
[1:11:19] equally distributed throughout. So that would mean that at a given point of high in the headwaters,
[1:11:25] a stream will be carrying the same amount of sediment as a point down by the solid, for example.
[1:11:31] The sediment particles are now the same, but the volume of the particles is the same,
[1:11:35] if the reversing equilibrium. As with equilibrium, there are also principles of sediment transport.
[1:11:42] So capacity is the amount of sediment a stream can transport and load is the amount of sediment
[1:11:47] being transported at any given time. Load can be suspended load, which is like when a creek turns
[1:11:53] brown during the flood. The dissolve load, which is like the salt minerals and the bed load,
[1:12:00] which is what's being moved along the bottom of the stream. So if capacity is greater than
[1:12:05] load, there's erosion. If capacity is less than load, there's deposition. If they're equal,
[1:12:12] the stream is in equilibrium. So now we'll get into the variables controlling capacity and we'll
[1:12:17] use velocity in the proxy for capacity. So the first variable is slope. So a steeper slope means
[1:12:23] the river can carry more sediment with the same amount of discharge. That extra sediment
[1:12:28] is going to come from the channel bed. These changes in slope can be almost unnoticeable
[1:12:34] to us, but result in major channel adjustments. In an urban environment, the only way to
[1:12:39] go is usually down. So if there's more discharge because of, say, increased impervious cover,
[1:12:45] that river is going to be able to carry more sediment, so it will erode the channel bed.
[1:12:50] The end result of this is a decreased slope that can handle the increased discharge without eroding the bed.
[1:12:57] So if you have a down cut system and you decide to remedy it by bringing it back up and just filling it full of sediments with even again,
[1:13:05] you just increase the slope which gives the river more capacity to carry the sediment away again.
[1:13:12] The next variable is area, which specifically means the area of the channel that water is flowing over which could include the floodplain.
[1:13:20] So let's go back to the undersized culbert. When the water slows down upstream of the culbert, what is he going to do?
[1:13:27] He will drop its sediment because there's no energy to keep it moving.
[1:13:31] But the water that does make it through the culbert will be moving quickly because of that hose analogy.
[1:13:36] So constrictions decrease area and increase speed.
[1:13:40] When it comes out the other side, the water will be moving fast and it will be sediment hungry
[1:13:45] from all of the sediment dropped upstream, so what will it do?
[1:13:49] It will erode the other side to make up for that lost sediment.
[1:13:54] Discharge or how much water is in the system affects capacity
[1:13:57] because obviously more water can carry more sediment.
[1:14:00] I mentioned this a second ago, but this is why a big flood will cause a lot of erosion.
[1:14:05] As the channel gets deeper, the slope decreases,
[1:14:07] and as the channel gets wider, the area increases,
[1:14:10] which both reduce the capacity to carry sediment.
[1:14:13] So it ends up working its way back to the way it was before the flood.
[1:14:17] For longer-term discharge increases like with urbanization, the entire bank full channel
[1:14:21] may increase in size to accommodate.
[1:14:24] Oops, I didn't have that, okay, I thought I forgot all of them.
[1:14:28] The last variable, roughness is the most important because it affects capacity more than slope
[1:14:33] or stream size changes.
[1:14:35] Roughness is the stuff that is in the stream slowing the water down.
[1:14:39] The idea of roughness is the whole point behind beavering analogs, right?
[1:14:44] Trying to slow the flow. Another thing to note is that a wide shallow channel has
[1:14:48] more roughness than a deep narrow channel. And that all works because of roughness.
[1:14:59] So why does...
[1:15:00] And so much time talking about the principles of equilibrium. Understanding these principles is key for making good restoration projects. So you can establish the underlying causes of the problems, you can identify problem areas, and you can predict how the river will respond to proposed activities before you put them.
[1:15:22] Let me know if you want me to continue.
[1:15:40] So this is where we talk about the different ways you can classify rivers and how those
[1:15:46] classifications can be helpful with choosing restoration projects.
[1:15:49] And this one is a little bit interactive, but I have a question for you.
[1:15:57] Okay, so I want to start with the caveat that every single river and stream is unique to its own circumstances.
[1:16:03] But there are patterns that emerge that we can use to make predictions about stream behavior.
[1:16:09] But in seven ways that we classify streams, but I'm only going to talk about six of them, because the other one is super technical
[1:16:14] and only useful if you take a bunch of expensive classes.
[1:16:16] The first type of classification is whether the bank material is alluvial or non-illuvial.
[1:16:23] So alluvial material is material deposited by the river itself, meaning the river can
[1:16:28] move freely.
[1:16:30] Non-illuvial material is material that is constrifting the river in some way, like bedrock or ripwrap.
[1:16:36] It's important to note that these classifications are not necessarily for the entire river or
[1:16:42] the entire reach and a single bank can be alluvial or not.
[1:16:46] So which of these four banks granted one of them is hard to see, but which of these have a
[1:16:50] aluminum material in which I'm not a aluminum kiln.
[1:16:55] Right.
[1:17:01] Yes, all those signs.
[1:17:02] Are there any non-illuvial banks?
[1:17:06] There's on the wall on the left that sediment drop in the trees.
[1:17:11] Yes, great job.
[1:17:13] I mean, this whole valley is that way because everything in the valley at one point was either, was put there by the river.
[1:17:19] you know, you go down through the fields and the bottoms and
[1:17:22] the gravel and you go out of the rock.
[1:17:27] Yeah, open up after another.
[1:17:29] Yeah.
[1:17:29] The whole valley is that way.
[1:17:32] So everything we farm is just what the river put there over the years.
[1:17:37] I got a lot of stuff out there.
[1:17:39] The example of how a river happened and put in hard line.
[1:17:44] The whole city is hard lined all the way through.
[1:17:46] going to dumps into ours and it's amazing. It's crazy how much sediment is in there and how
[1:17:56] the river moves on a continuous basis. It's hard to keep up going where it's supposed to.
[1:18:02] I guess I could dig it out and sell the gravel, but. Because it's carrying so much material in the
[1:18:16] they'll start cutting around one side and take all the sediment out and build some
[1:18:21] things to you guys.
[1:18:26] I mean it's just the way it works.
[1:18:30] Okay number two is
[1:18:31] landscape elements so those are things like in the picture here, alluvial fans are
[1:18:37] the sediment that drops out of a stream after a construction just like I didn't
[1:18:40] say but usually better our construction and I couldn't find valley would be
[1:18:45] considered a landscape element, as long as the stream's floodplain, any dams or
[1:18:49] terraces, etc. So which landscape elements can you see here near the severe?
[1:19:06] There's a border there. So where's that probably? The dam. That's going to affect the
[1:19:13] river for sure.
[1:19:17] Definitely going to constrict it just to be wee bit,
[1:19:23] and the water is
[1:19:24] getting around fast after it comes out of the dam. We're just doing heroes.
[1:19:35] I have a bit about dance also, what about this semi-circle, what do you think that is?
[1:19:46] The ears of erosion that's washed out of that canyon.
[1:19:49] You're like, right there, what do you want me to say?
[1:19:55] The technical term will come.
[1:19:59] That's a really good example of it and we'll be okay.
[1:20:03] So yeah, all the constrictions on this bedrock and then it just builds out into the blood plane.
[1:20:09] And then the floodplain itself is a landscape element and then also had the confined valley.
[1:20:20] Okay, Strawler's stream ordering is the idea where the smallest tributaries are first order streams.
[1:20:26] And then the two streams of the same order come together, get a higher number.
[1:20:29] So two first order streams join form, a second order stream.
[1:20:34] The river, river would be like a third and fourth order stream.
[1:20:38] Okay, so plain form patterns.
[1:20:41] Strings will form these patterns based on the circumstances around them.
[1:20:46] So the same stream may take all of these forms at different points.
[1:20:49] If you see a particular plain form pattern, there are some assumptions that you can make
[1:20:54] about that part of the stream and any hazards that you may face.
[1:20:58] So a braided channel will be steep and when I say steep, that's like 1 to 2 percent slope.
[1:21:04] So not steep to us, but steep to river.
[1:21:05] and they also have high sediment loads. They're very dynamic and they tend to move around
[1:21:10] with each flood. So erosion is a major issue for any infrastructure around the Brated Channel.
[1:21:16] A beandering plan form will be found on a shower slope because it's the way to keep sediment moving
[1:21:21] because the slope is shallow. So like when you're moving slowly on a bike or a skateboard and then you
[1:21:27] like rock side to side to pick up speed, this is intense. So meandering streams tend to have more
[1:21:33] issues with inundation or flooding, but there is always some erosion on the outside
[1:21:37] bends, it's just typically concentrated to one place rather than moving around as
[1:21:42] quickly as a braided channel. So which plant form fits the stream on the left?
[1:21:50] Out of the two I mentioned, the injury. Yeah, and what about the one on the right?
[1:22:01] It's a form of braiding, right? But it's not quite braiding, it was the one to the right of it.
[1:22:06] Yeah, braiding or an asthmosing, they're pretty similar.
[1:22:10] So this is a proloh river, and that's East Canyon Creek.
[1:22:16] Okay, so the next one is channel reach morphology.
[1:22:19] This one is kind of eye opening for me in the sense that I didn't really realize that there
[1:22:23] was a reason that rivers lived the way they do.
[1:22:26] So the five types of channel morphology are cascade, step pool, plainbed, pool ripple, and
[1:22:32] doom ripple.
[1:22:33] And in that order, they're going from highest up in the watershed to the lowest.
[1:22:36] so cascade will have large boulders that cannot be moved and will stick out even
[1:22:41] during the flood. Banks are pretty not alluvial at this point. Step pool is where
[1:22:46] the rocks are so kind of large but they can be moved and they are moved by the
[1:22:50] river in two steps and pools. Plain bed morphology will have rocks and boulders
[1:22:55] but those will be completely covered during the flood and it'll typically occur
[1:22:59] on a shallower slip than the other two. Pool ripple is a morphology that
[1:23:03] alternate between fast-moving ripples and slow-moving pools. This morphology is
[1:23:08] really good for cold water fish because they use both the pools and the
[1:23:11] ripples for different activities like activities. And then dew ripple will be
[1:23:15] slow-moving water that looks like underneath the sand looks like ripples of a
[1:23:31] So channel morphology is a generally slope or terrain dependent, like I mentioned the
[1:23:36] order I brought them up and the order across the top of this graph is going from steep
[1:23:40] riches, shallower slopes from left to right.
[1:23:43] So I wanted to go over this graph because it ties in really well with the equilibrium part
[1:23:47] of the talk.
[1:23:48] So remember that a river's goal, so to speak, is to transport sediment.
[1:23:53] So at a steep slope, there isn't an issue with sediment transport.
[1:23:56] In fact, the river is trying to reduce sediment transport to make up for that steep slope.
[1:24:02] So that's why we see cascade and step pool morphologies.
[1:24:05] Those boulders and large rocks are the roughness that keep the water from moving too fast
[1:24:10] and carrying too much sediment away.
[1:24:13] you can see on the graph that transport capacity is very high and the sediment
[1:24:17] supply is very low. As the sediment supply increases, rivers smooth out into
[1:24:23] the pool ripple or dune ripple morphologies to be able to continue to move
[1:24:27] this sediment. That's why these morphologies don't have as many rocks. It doesn't
[1:24:32] need roughness to limit sediment transport. This slope is what's limiting
[1:24:35] sediment transport. So really important thing to bring up here is that there are
[1:24:40] reasons that channel morphologies occur in different places. So you can't impose a step pool
[1:24:45] morphology with like weirs or rock veins on a low gradient stream because that stream is slow
[1:24:51] and be andering and it will not be funneled through the center as intended. The flow will probably be
[1:24:56] deflected by the vein and sent into the bank causing more erosion.
[1:25:02] So the last type is using channel
[1:25:04] the channel evolution model to classify a stream. So I wanted to give you a good picture of that model.
[1:25:09] Basically, we have a channel, maybe that 13 CFS channel that I mentioned earlier, and if
[1:25:15] we have a flood or some kind of major disturbance like straightening, the stream will first
[1:25:20] incise downward.
[1:25:22] Eventually, this incise channel will be completely disconnected from the floodplain, where
[1:25:26] a carrying vegetation will die because there won't be enough moisture.
[1:25:30] The lack of vegetation will create weak banks.
[1:25:33] With more floods, those will fall in, and the stream will then become wider, and it will continue
[1:25:38] to widen as long as there is a flood big enough to warrant it. However, we will eventually reach
[1:25:43] the point where we get a massive flood that occurs very infrequently and without constant pressure
[1:25:48] to keep the banks that wide, we're preparing a vegetation move back into this widened channel
[1:25:53] because it isn't wet all the time anymore and rebuild to be a sediment deposition. A new channel will
[1:26:00] form that matches the original channel but at a lower elevation.
[1:26:06] You know the channel like through us
[1:26:09] It's so wide from like the floods and like now it's been so long since we've had a lot of water
[1:26:15] That they're growing in so when you do which we will have high water
[1:26:20] Then the channel was like full of
[1:26:28] Floods yeah, I mean, but it's gonna find the path of least resistance if all this stuff that's growing in there
[1:26:40] It's not the river no more and it deposits, you know, that's why we have gravel spots out in our fields and stuff. I mean, if you left it alone, it would fill this channel up and move right over. But we don't let it do that anymore.
[1:26:58] Yeah.
[1:26:58] You know, we make it stay where it's supposed to be, or where do you want it to be?
[1:27:07] But it doesn't necessarily work all the time.
[1:27:09] No, no, you get it flooded like in, you know, way three in that.
[1:27:13] You just, it does whatever it wants.
[1:27:15] Yeah, when you can't find a river.
[1:27:17] Because it's all three feet water.
[1:27:20] But I mean, the channel, like down through us, I mean, it's kind of big channel over the years.
[1:27:25] But it's, you know, like, yeah, it's got trees growing, big trees growing in it now.
[1:27:31] Back in it.
[1:27:31] And it either, you know, takes them out and then it goes down and plugs things up.
[1:27:37] Did they go through this?
[1:27:40] You've been watching the stream channel evolution model here in my life.
[1:27:44] Yeah.
[1:27:46] And it might hit his whole life.
[1:27:48] Yeah.
[1:27:48] We tried it.
[1:27:49] We tried to control it.
[1:27:50] But if you could control it when you get a flood like that.
[1:27:53] nature is okay to keep things interesting most of these rules don't apply to
[1:28:00] highly managed rivers and that's because of the nature of what they are
[1:28:04] heavily managed rivers can't act naturally because the environment is no
[1:28:07] longer natural so what's different we call systems like these those that are
[1:28:12] damned tailwater systems tailwater systems so prime example of this would be the
[1:28:18] river the weaver river between rock port and echo and they're called tailwater
[1:28:23] systems because they essentially leave the tail water of the dam. So what do we know about what
[1:28:28] happens at the upstream end of a dam? It fills a sediment. But what kind of dams do we have around here?
[1:28:37] I've learned from the summit C.D. that the dams actually spill over and they have water coming out
[1:28:44] underneath. I thought they were just spill over dams.
[1:28:49] So if we're talking about hypothetically where
[1:28:51] water goes over the spillway. Do you think that water at the top of the reservoir has
[1:28:55] much sediment in it? Probably not. So what would we expect to happen on the other side
[1:29:00] of the dam? We would expect scour. And that probably was scour of smaller sediment at one
[1:29:05] point in time, but it's long gone now because the downstream end of the dams are heavily
[1:29:11] honored and they'll never receive enough water to move boulders that day because they're
[1:29:15] completely managed. So the weaver in this reaches essentially only being fed sediment by its
[1:29:20] tributaries rather than the natural flow of the river itself. So what else is
[1:29:26] different? Timing of water. So instead of spring runoff we get irrigation runoff,
[1:29:32] not saying that's good or bad but it's different than what's natural.
[1:29:36] But the benefit of being managed is if you have the right water manager, it should have
[1:29:43] consistent water throughout the year. Another minor thing is that the spillway
[1:29:47] dams are spilling over the warmest water so that can potentially contribute to
[1:29:52] temperature impairments, low dams.
[1:29:55] Hey, the last thing that even the water...
[1:30:00] Coming out of the bottom of the dam, I mean, would not have the same sediment in it as if it was just flowing through. I mean, it's going to drop sediment. I guess it really depends on how much they fluctuate it up and down. But it's going to drop sediment. Let's hear what you're talking about. Yeah.
[1:30:19] Well, most of the sediment would look at echo reservoir. The sediment all stays at the top of the reservoir because as soon as it hits the water, the water slows down. Yeah.
[1:30:29] And so it drops it. It's all up there. There's no
[1:30:32] Sediment doesn't move halfway down the brisket or I bet that I
[1:30:35] Bet that hasn't the bottom of halfway down
[1:30:39] I bet that hasn't changed since they put the damn yeah, but the tops have sure has need to be dredge
[1:30:46] You want that job
[1:30:51] Just drain it like you're gonna be playing you huh. Yeah, it's gonna be great
[1:31:01] Okay, this is the last slide before part three.
[1:31:06] So I just wanted to bring up these five key ideas again as my advisor in grad school told
[1:31:13] me anything important.
[1:31:14] He said to put on my bathroom here and look at it every single day.
[1:31:17] So why don't you put these on your bathroom here?
[1:31:21] Everyone, look at the river in broad scale, not just what's right in front of you if you're
[1:31:26] standing there.
[1:31:27] Rivers don't life fast changes. They will eliminate them. Off-loan water carries
[1:31:32] sediment. Stability does not equal static-ness and don't forget about
[1:31:37] ripeness.
[1:31:39] That concludes part two.
[1:31:42] Can
[1:31:48] we do part three and four next week?
[1:31:50] Yeah.
[1:31:50] Our next one.
[1:31:51] Next week?
[1:31:52] I love it.
[1:31:53] I love it.
[1:31:53] I love it.
[1:31:54] I love it.
[1:31:55] I love it.
[1:31:55] I love it.
[1:32:00] Are you okay if we do the next part three and four next?
[1:32:06] You know, that's how Kathy got here. She just started coming to a few meetings and pretty
[1:32:12] soon we just put her out.
[1:32:16] Okay,
[1:32:19] thank you. You're welcome.
[1:32:24] No Maggie, nothing from Maggie.
[1:32:27] You have anything to do. I did for you one thing. This is quick. Just new faces and you
[1:32:35] deaf. They did a little swap a room so Tony is no longer the Ag Water Optimization Program Manager
[1:32:45] and Katie is no longer IDIP. It just switched them. Tony's back to Silver Health. Katie is now
[1:32:52] Oh, water optimization.
[1:32:54] So, that brings me, do you know what?
[1:32:59] You do know.
[1:33:02] You don't want to tell us.
[1:33:07] Trades, you just so you know,
[1:33:09] this meeting is being recorded.
[1:33:15] So, Brian's still where he's at.
[1:33:19] Brian's still where he's at.
[1:33:21] have they have you heard they heard it was going to hire some more yes water off so they got the
[1:33:27] higher with they're hiring another planner and treemont and then another planner in Taylor's
[1:33:32] bill so the Taylor's bill one will cover a lot of our area and then the treemont will just help in
[1:33:38] tree but they haven't they haven't done that I think they've extended the positions so
[1:33:43] Brian talked to me yesterday and said hopefully within the next week or two they'll be on board
[1:33:49] with a full blow, so no,
[1:33:54] no.
[1:33:55] You're not allowed to do a worst job for sure.
[1:33:58] That one is like a, I think it's two years,
[1:34:01] that one's only for two years.
[1:34:02] Well that's the thing is, they're trying to make
[1:34:04] the program in them, but right now yeah,
[1:34:08] it's a great year of job, you guarantee it wouldn't do it.
[1:34:10] Yeah, two year of thing.
[1:34:13] I'd be sleeping on the couch.
[1:34:17] Do you have anything?
[1:34:21] From me, I guess just a quick update. I am co-presenting tomorrow, I'm giving a presentation
[1:34:25] with the Weaver Watershed Council down in Salt Lake, but we are co-presenting on some
[1:34:31] issues and challenges that we face in the Weaver River Watershed. If you're interested
[1:34:36] in that, I have a link and there's like a live stream through YouTube. So, if you're interested,
[1:34:41] let me know. It's from one to three tomorrow. Other than that, we're working on our website
[1:34:46] I hope to have that release soon and with that some new tools and resources that I hope to share with you guys
[1:34:52] But that'll be the future and thank you guys for having me. Let me sit in and listen and
[1:35:00] Absolutely is the is so is your presentation to the whole the statewide watersheds to the annual so everybody is going to be there all
[1:35:09] Watershed Council. Yeah, thank you for having that. Yeah, it's to the State Watershed Council. Okay. You don't have a lot of years
[1:35:16] That's yeah, I don't know what to expect is my first first time, but it sounds like
[1:35:22] Yeah, we've been dealing with we were basing, you know, they
[1:35:28] That unnatural thing, you know, they run all that water down the canal
[1:35:32] And then they've had so much trouble with moss this year that then they
[1:35:36] They have to dump the canal down the river so it goes from no flow to
[1:35:41] Extreme right
[1:35:42] And you know they've been treated, they've treated the canal twice already this year, normally they only do it once, and it's like crazy.
[1:35:52] I mean, especially us because we're like right below the diversion there, so we have no water.
[1:35:58] And then all of a sudden you have...
[1:36:01] Luckily they do call me and say, you're gonna get flooded.
[1:36:07] That just washes the channel out all the moss that's been growing just comes down on everything.
[1:36:17] But they say that this year when they treated the canal the first time it was like a month
[1:36:25] earlier than they did a year ago and the water temperature was 10 degrees warmer than a year
[1:36:31] ago.
[1:36:34] because because they figure no snow melt yeah it don't ever got cold and
[1:36:41] froze the reservoir so the reservoirs never got cold but they've done it twice
[1:36:46] and they figured they're gonna have to do it two more times two more and
[1:36:50] normally they only do it once maybe twice but yeah I'm there all of these
[1:36:56] trained because they can't trick they can't get it down the canal because all the
[1:36:59] wants is just growing in the canal line in the size of the canal and then they they
[1:37:06] treated and they they have to treat it I mean that's going to the treatment plant so
[1:37:11] it's there's only certain chemical and but that's steady yeah I think and I can't
[1:37:16] get into the river back into the river that it all has to go to the treatment plant
[1:37:20] that's why they dump everything in the river so it's quite a deal but yeah
[1:37:27] they're they're they're like bring on the floods the lectures way better not
[1:37:35] enough yeah but that's what they said was ten you know they're deals what
[1:37:40] they're doing is it was ten degrees a month soon but
[1:37:44] But if you can only imagine what the 10th vloggers are going to say, I'm going to get the air
[1:37:53] checked and they're going to be like, not agree with you.
[1:37:55] Well, like my line crit deal, I started the pumps on line crit, which means the crit drop
[1:38:02] down to not sufficient on the 15th of June last year I started them on the 10th of July.
[1:38:10] Wow.
[1:38:13] I mean, now, there's hardly anything coming in there.
[1:38:18] Is the plants still holding enough to do anything?
[1:38:21] A little bit.
[1:38:22] I've been down central Utah and a couple of springs I've been to, they're dry.
[1:38:28] There's nothing there.
[1:38:30] It's bad.
[1:38:33] We actually had three last minute jobs.
[1:38:35] We went down and did fence off springs because the wild horses were very little lives coming
[1:38:40] coming through, they were tromping them to nothing,
[1:38:43] where they were gonna lose all springs.
[1:38:45] We had to go fence them off, same deal, just nothing.
[1:38:49] Not enough flow to even get it away from the spring.
[1:38:52] You know, we had that storm and looked snow on top of the mountains
[1:38:57] but last week, and normally that would bring the crick-up
[1:39:00] a little bit for a day or two.
[1:39:02] And I'd never seen any change.
[1:39:05] Yeah.
[1:39:06] That's just, so dry and all.
[1:39:10] and then it's 95 degrees the next day.
[1:39:13] You know what I'm sorry.
[1:39:14] How's your guys tomatoes doing?
[1:39:17] They're doing good if we put,
[1:39:19] I don't know what we're gonna do
[1:39:20] when we run out of water
[1:39:21] to see how dry farm tomatoes do.
[1:39:27] I don't know.
[1:39:29] See the corn's doing good too.
[1:39:30] It's not too far to start sneaking
[1:39:32] on a little water out of the canal.
[1:39:33] Yeah, it's, it's gonna be, it already is.
[1:39:38] It's gonna be a long something.
[1:39:39] It's going to be a long I said it almost gets to the point you just wish you'd run out of water
[1:39:48] Just to say we're not
[1:39:50] We have to deal with people I mean my phone just rings everybody
[1:39:57] They've got us put up in four turns and on quarter share
[1:40:02] It's like you get three days to watered on
[1:40:06] half the burgeon normally would have or if they were the burgeon normally would have it's
[1:40:10] and we've we've never restricted anything and we're starting to talk about it and you talk about
[1:40:19] crying people yeah and it's like come on man put water in your lawn you might want to eat
[1:40:27] Well, that's, but anyway, anybody have anything else?
[1:40:32] Do we need to have a motion for her to write the checks for the stuff or that I'll take care of?
[1:40:37] Well, I wrote the, I got the one, the spray check.
[1:40:43] The spray, that one was motioned on before, so that one's good.
[1:40:49] Did we need, Emily, I don't know who I have a check in here for the temperature loggers.
[1:40:55] Does it go, do we reimburse Todd for them?
[1:40:59] Does it go to the...
[1:40:59] I'll say your reimburse Todd.
[1:41:00] Okay.
[1:41:01] Okay.
[1:41:02] Then I shall just save that one.
[1:41:03] Did Todd pay you then?
[1:41:04] I mean, if you want to...
[1:41:05] Oh, okay.
[1:41:06] Do you want to give it to me?
[1:41:08] Do you want to do that?
[1:41:09] Okay.
[1:41:09] Let's do that.
[1:41:10] Do you want to do that?
[1:41:11] Let's do that.
[1:41:12] If he's paid for him, just...
[1:41:14] Let's do it.
[1:41:15] Todd, he had an extensive month with the consummation.
[1:41:18] Yes, you're good.
[1:41:19] Yeah.
[1:41:19] You're good.
[1:41:22] Yeah.
[1:41:23] I'm awarded to me as a major.
[1:41:26] Right?
[1:41:27] I know.
[1:41:29] Okay.
[1:41:30] That's the reward points.
[1:41:31] Yeah.
[1:41:32] I forgot your Sarah forms, but it's okay because this is the first of the quarter.
[1:41:37] So I have your money for last quarter and then I'll bring your Sarah forms next month.
[1:41:45] Okay?
[1:41:45] I just want to thank Nikki for, like, she's been cleaning up and dealing with all the
[1:41:53] changes that the state's been making it's it's been rough a lot of the clerks have
[1:41:58] been really struggling and we've been struggling I know Kathy and Jason have
[1:42:03] been struggling but it's it comes well needed if we want more money as well as
[1:42:09] if we did get audited we would not pass so it comes at a good time it's just a lot
[1:42:15] of growing pains so but we're gonna get trained as RCs to kind of minimize
[1:42:22] pass will be between Kathy and Clarks so and they're gonna have little booklets
[1:42:27] what can be reimbursed what can't and so they'll be people trained up I know
[1:42:33] this last five six months was kind of a dumpster fire not for any district not
[1:42:39] for this one but for all the districts so so if you got it all cleaned up Nikki and
[1:42:44] Spick and spam.
[1:42:46] Yeah, thank you.
[1:42:47] Good job.
[1:42:48] Thank you.
[1:42:49] She didn't call for that.
[1:42:50] Yeah.
[1:42:51] Straight pace.
[1:42:52] Yeah.
[1:42:52] Just the last three words for request finalized.
[1:42:55] It's been signed.
[1:42:56] So how many times do you have to turn that in?
[1:42:59] Just twice.
[1:43:01] Just twice.
[1:43:02] And I know.
[1:43:04] I thought it was only going to be one.
[1:43:06] And I was like, holy cow, I'm killing it.
[1:43:09] But last year, she emailed me yesterday?
[1:43:14] Actually, no.
[1:43:15] Actually, I need all of this.
[1:43:18] So yeah.
[1:43:22] Thank you for coming.
[1:43:24] You're welcome to come back.
[1:43:27] We've tried to meet the same time every month.
[1:43:30] So how did you get on the email list?
[1:43:33] I don't know.
[1:43:35] I don't know.
[1:43:36] So the email list?
[1:43:38] I mean, is Nikki emailing you?
[1:43:40] I am not. No, it's just a format that comes out from the States. Oh, from the public. No,
[1:43:49] Well, someone is getting that actually Kelly. Thank you.
[1:43:54] That was just going out into the house.
[1:44:00] Yeah, you must have asked for it somehow. Yeah. Yeah. That's kind of how you ended up here.
[1:44:06] I mean, yeah, I'm trying to remember.
[1:44:08] You were looking at easements and...
[1:44:10] Right, and I looked up...
[1:44:12] I got also.
[1:44:12] I had the word conservation easement
[1:44:15] and I pulled up conservation district
[1:44:16] because at least one word was there.
[1:44:20] And I, who was liking on the name of...
[1:44:23] Yeah, it's you.
[1:44:24] The woman who used to...
[1:44:25] Yeah.
[1:44:26] Sign them all.
[1:44:27] You may not want to sign...
[1:44:28] Well, you can double sign yours,
[1:44:29] because I have Jason signed that.
[1:44:30] Really?
[1:44:31] So, you're good.
[1:44:32] Yeah, I guess, Laura Lee.
[1:44:33] Sign them all.
[1:44:35] Because she didn't stay, she was like there for a year and then she left, right?
[1:44:40] No, Laura Lee was there longer than that.
[1:44:43] Who came with you in Colorado?
[1:44:46] Brian.
[1:44:48] But there was somebody, there was a gal.
[1:44:50] It was before Brian.
[1:44:52] She actually emailed me once on a completely different email.
[1:44:58] That's right.
[1:44:58] if we're right.
[1:44:59] It wasn't as a ratio.
[1:45:00] There was somebody in between. Just for like a year. I know what remembers her. I bet she did a good job.
[1:45:10] No.
[1:45:13] I asked you if you was leaving. I thought you were giving the parking. We're, we're hitting you. You do. It's getting
[1:45:23] You can't have a train, you can't even know.
[1:45:25] Hmm.
[1:45:26] Yeah.
[1:45:27] You want me to sign this black homeless for dog?
[1:45:30] I'll just save those for next meeting.
[1:45:33] So don't worry about me.
[1:45:34] I'll be right in there.
[1:45:34] She is.
[1:45:35] I'm actually there's a few.