1 00:00:00,719 --> 00:00:04,839 no I iil 2 00:00:30,439 --> 00:00:32,720 is this 3 00:00:37,399 --> 00:00:44,399 your ladies and gentlemen just to remind you this is a public hearing so whether 4 00:00:42,879 --> 00:00:50,079 you're going to speak or not we need you to sign the sign in sheet for the public 5 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:53,559 record so if you forgotten to do that please do so 6 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:06,960 ladies and gentlemen I'd like to welcome you 7 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:16,560 to this public hearing for the fiscal year 2013 2014 budget the time is 8 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:16,560 650 p.m. date April 22nd 9 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:29,079 2013 herea here here suan here here wood here Rose here Conley here we have 10 00:01:27,119 --> 00:01:32,560 everyone in attendance you can stand and recite the budg Al with 11 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:47,000 me of the United States of America and to the Republic for it stands one nation 12 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:50,960 under God indivisible andice for 13 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:06,759 all the purpose this hearing is to receive public comments on the fiscal 14 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:16,280 year 2013 2014 budget Harvey zida you're up 15 00:02:09,920 --> 00:02:16,280 first thank you mayor uh page 16 of the 16 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:31,080 budget oh yeah PR L it uh page 16 of the budget uh field 17 00:02:27,920 --> 00:02:39,120 groomer uh on this year we paid $10,500 for that groomer but I think we 18 00:02:33,920 --> 00:02:46,400 had uh about $7 8,000 That was supposed to be paid on next year's 19 00:02:42,599 --> 00:02:50,200 budget and I see we have a lot of Zer z z for 20 00:02:47,920 --> 00:02:53,200 that I'm wondering where that money's coming from or where we're going to get 21 00:02:51,800 --> 00:03:00,680 that money it may be coming out of equipment 22 00:02:56,159 --> 00:03:00,680 Parks and Recreation $1,750 23 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:10,400 but I I think it should I don't really think you should uh show it that way I 24 00:03:07,640 --> 00:03:13,799 think it should show that you're paying the rest of that money off on next 25 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:17,720 year's budget next year you're going to look at 26 00:03:15,799 --> 00:03:21,879 Park of recation on equipment you're going to see 27 00:03:18,920 --> 00:03:28,599 $1,750 and you're going to want to spend that again thank 28 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:28,599 you thank you 29 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:45,239 next we have um at our uh budget meeting down at 30 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:51,879 the library I asked a lot of questions and was told that uh the administrator 31 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:56,400 would get back to me and I never heard from them and when I asked for the 32 00:03:53,560 --> 00:04:02,040 answers he said oh you have to email them to me 33 00:03:58,319 --> 00:04:07,879 well uh I thought he was taking notes to answer the questions I had but I sent a 34 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:14,200 whole sheet of questions today and never heard back from him either I heard from 35 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:20,639 ever which was amazing because he's not even working for the city yet 36 00:04:17,759 --> 00:04:27,000 um and I sent it all one at a time to each of the olderman to see if they had 37 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:27,000 any questions similar mine 38 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:36,440 um I wasn't aware that we had had uh any projects for Meadow Brook Drive Road 39 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:43,039 Project or Scenic Road Project I'd like to know more on these before we vote um 40 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:48,600 not sure if the 120,000 will be enough for French Creek Park ex 41 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:55,320 extension um I'm not sure the length of that um marking Market Street parking 42 00:04:52,080 --> 00:05:01,240 lot receive 25% of that amount so is those changes made in our 43 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:06,120 budget and what are the completion dates on any of these 44 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:11,080 projects um is there any way we can find a way to pay for Street lighting other 45 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:15,440 than from our M field packs and is this for our entire city or just for main 46 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:26,639 stre Parks and Recreation I see we have 8,750 for utilities are we going to look 47 00:05:24,479 --> 00:05:30,240 at alternative ways to save money on this maybe uh close the par during the 48 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:34,520 off or change the plumbing system and the 49 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:40,039 constant pressure system so that we can shut it off and or maybe even get an 50 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:45,240 estimate with that cost and um maintenance service for the ground um we 51 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:50,880 were told this would drop since Bal DS were maturing but it went 52 00:05:48,120 --> 00:06:01,120 up and I don't know how our expenditures dropped from 397 207 5,000 down to 21, 53 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:07,039 350 for Park and streets we have engineering for 54 00:06:04,199 --> 00:06:11,120 $10,000 if we're doing several projects is that 55 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:18,199 enough and the community room maintenance is a th000 um we need to 56 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:22,880 address the break situation that it's located in the library portion of the 57 00:06:19,840 --> 00:06:30,039 building so when the library is Coos and someone runs the building no 58 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:34,840 access and their utility tax is only 65,000 last year it looked like proposed 59 00:06:32,639 --> 00:06:34,840 was $ 60 00:06:35,919 --> 00:06:45,919 29,6 don't know what the difference is there and miscellaneous income of 61 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:50,960 $325,000 I'd like to know what's going in there because our uh Auditors 62 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:56,919 recommend that any income or expense over a th should have its own line item 63 00:06:53,199 --> 00:06:56,919 for the budget for better 64 00:06:57,639 --> 00:07:08,599 clarification and salary aggregation is all Department salaries 65 00:07:05,280 --> 00:07:11,280 total on that or is it separate I'm not sure how that 66 00:07:11,759 --> 00:07:22,240 work and revenues are up 67 00:07:16,319 --> 00:07:22,240 587 225,000 and expenses are up 68 00:07:23,039 --> 00:07:30,400 44488 where do these figures come from and were some the expenses including a 69 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:32,840 building inspect and where is that coming 70 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:41,639 from and I kind of would like to have seen uh ending or beginning balance how 71 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:49,080 be wor it I thought we were going to get that for the general fund at least but 72 00:07:46,599 --> 00:07:52,159 projected ending balance for this year or the beginning balance for this year 73 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:55,599 would be it depending on how you're looking at it 74 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:03,440 next is Nancy 75 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:20,759 Anderson Well I spent a great deal of time the last few days looking at his 76 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:24,120 budget and I've taught school for 43 years much but another education 77 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:29,520 advanced math and I call this best thing as 78 00:08:26,599 --> 00:08:34,039 example of a shell game and that you can follow through and 79 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:37,159 anything um and my reest basically is this I look at the beginning page one 80 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:41,800 and two and trying to understand this 81 00:08:39,479 --> 00:08:47,200 because this is so important to everybody the motor fuel tax for a 82 00:08:44,839 --> 00:08:53,120 revenue for this year was 11 15,28 for 83 00:08:49,640 --> 00:09:00,120 1213 anticipated it will go to 432,000 plus from 115,000 plus to 84 00:08:56,760 --> 00:09:07,000 $432,000 plus revenue is quite a jump then you go to the expend 85 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:11,839 expenditures for the motor fuel tax and for 1213 for expenditures 86 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:19,920 145,000 for year 14 13 14 projections 640,000 87 00:09:17,399 --> 00:09:24,240 plus those are huge numbers different when you go back to 88 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:28,160 the beginning of the of the dialogue was here from years 2005 and six I looked at 89 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:33,519 all the numbers across the board you have this big jump at 9 10 and then you 90 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:37,600 come to this year 12 13 to 14 big jumps a lot of times I wonder what happened 91 00:09:35,839 --> 00:09:42,360 then you go to the page referring to the community our community room again this 92 00:09:39,839 --> 00:09:46,760 is put into the um a general fund one of our general fund 93 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:52,160 expenses and the point was it used to make $122,000 a 94 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:57,600 year now we're making $4,500 a year the reason why is that a room that was added 95 00:09:55,560 --> 00:10:02,160 on to the library given to the citizens because it's theirs and we've gone 96 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:06,399 backwards in Revenue why because we're not using it why because it's in poor 97 00:10:04,399 --> 00:10:10,279 repair why because that's the way the budget was set 98 00:10:08,079 --> 00:10:14,120 up then you go to the part about Parks and Recreation you try to follow through 99 00:10:11,839 --> 00:10:20,240 that I keep looking for sports complex and the fact that in March it had 100 00:10:16,279 --> 00:10:24,920 $186,000 deficit March it had $177,000 deficit trying to figure that 101 00:10:22,279 --> 00:10:30,079 out I can't find it anywhere or understand it I would ask our new mayor 102 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:33,880 that's coming on board shortly Mr and the new Council and for those who 103 00:10:31,959 --> 00:10:40,360 are going to be retained to please try to develop a format for the next budget 104 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:44,279 but you start very early and work with a budget that you can read and understand 105 00:10:42,399 --> 00:10:48,120 this is really crucial to everybody they're always hard they're always 106 00:10:46,279 --> 00:10:51,680 complicated but you need to have everybody understand it not just the 107 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:55,959 person who writes it not just the city administrator it 108 00:10:54,079 --> 00:11:02,040 needs to be by all eight of you and the mayor and everybody involved in this 109 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:05,639 policy so I my recommendation is please take your 110 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:09,639 time don't just vote on it because you you're down to a deadline give yourself 111 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:13,680 time next time and try to make it so it's feasible to 112 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:21,920 understand thank you 113 00:11:34,959 --> 00:11:45,720 sir you were the late attendee did you want to offer any comments or 114 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:45,720 not yes I have no comment okay thank 115 00:11:52,880 --> 00:12:00,560 you okay now we move on to written statements has anybody received any 116 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:05,639 written statements regarding budget any council members any 117 00:12:11,959 --> 00:12:17,519 staff okay we've received verbal statements so we had no written 118 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:24,800 statements that I'm aware of so we will close this public hearing 119 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:24,800 at this time 120 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:37,440 we'll be moving on to our regular reading now 121 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:45,320 so if you'd like to offer comments during the regular meeting please sign 122 00:12:40,399 --> 00:12:45,320 the new sheet for the uh council 123 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:55,839 meeting if you're just attending the council meeting it doesn't have the same 124 00:12:53,399 --> 00:12:59,680 uh criteria is a public hearing so you don't have to sign if you're simply 125 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:05,440 attending but if if you would like to make comments please sign in we'll wait 126 00:13:02,079 --> 00:13:08,920 till 7:05 in case we get a late attendee for the meeting 127 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:57,440 you 128 00:14:18,079 --> 00:14:21,079 for 129 00:14:39,079 --> 00:14:48,000 ladies and gentlemen clock says 705 so I'd like to welcome you to our Monday 130 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:52,199 April 22nd 2013 regularly scheduled council 131 00:14:49,079 --> 00:15:01,040 meeting roll call Lane here th here suvan here here 132 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:01,040 wood yes Rose 133 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:07,920 okay and I'd like to invite you to stand and recite the Pledge of Allegiance 134 00:15:04,759 --> 00:15:07,920 prior to this meeting as 135 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:22,759 well to the FL of the United States of America and to the repblic for it stands 136 00:15:19,079 --> 00:15:27,279 one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all 137 00:15:33,279 --> 00:15:41,199 Brian do we have anybody signed in okay we have no one signed in for public 138 00:15:39,079 --> 00:15:44,519 comments we'll move on to board and commission reports you'll find a copy of 139 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:51,360 the historic preservation commission minutes on pages one through 140 00:15:46,959 --> 00:15:51,360 two those are self-explanatory 141 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:05,319 and I move on to the report of City 142 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:14,959 officers as mayor I'd like to congratulate all those 143 00:16:10,319 --> 00:16:19,720 who well all those who ran for office um we had more interest this year than 144 00:16:16,639 --> 00:16:26,199 we've had in many years I'd like to con congratulate those who won the election 145 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:32,279 and welcome them unofficially on board tonight in 3 weeks 146 00:16:29,519 --> 00:16:32,279 we'll welcome you 147 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:39,480 officially and I would like to recognize Ernie Hing for service the city treasur 148 00:16:37,959 --> 00:16:45,319 he'll be leaving us at the end of the month so he won't be here at our next 149 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:49,839 meeting and thank you for your service as treasure as well as your service 150 00:16:47,839 --> 00:16:52,480 through the years and other capacities are my 151 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:57,800 pleasure move on to our city 152 00:16:57,839 --> 00:17:07,039 clerk City administrator nothing to report your honor City 153 00:17:04,679 --> 00:17:10,799 attorney in uh keeping with the mayor welcome to the newly elected council 154 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:14,199 members those that are here that haven't previously served just for reminder you 155 00:17:12,199 --> 00:17:18,839 will need to go online and complete your uh open meetings and pre Information Act 156 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:22,600 training um to become acquainted with those Provisions if you have any 157 00:17:20,079 --> 00:17:27,280 questions about it just let me know thank 158 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:30,840 you City Treasurer I have 159 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:41,679 thank you and now move on to the report of department heads 160 00:17:38,799 --> 00:17:49,280 Gary uh yeah your honor thank you I'd like to uh recognize the uh Department 161 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:53,840 of Public Works for the job they did uh when they were asked to 162 00:17:50,880 --> 00:18:00,280 sandbay along with the uh fire department and we also had a couple EMTs 163 00:17:56,480 --> 00:18:07,679 or paramedics help out Police Department uh uh also later that night on a water 164 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:13,880 main break on uh milon's Drive helped us out uh tremendously too get notices out 165 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:19,039 to people and uh everybody really worked well together um and I just want to 166 00:18:18,159 --> 00:18:23,840 thank everybody thank 167 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:23,840 you 168 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:34,440 br thank you Mr May uh my report last week hopefully everybody got it unless 169 00:18:32,120 --> 00:18:34,440 have any 170 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:44,559 questions thank you Nick do you have 171 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:51,760 anything thank you now move on then to the incent 172 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:55,240 agenda is there anything anybody has any questions 173 00:18:52,760 --> 00:19:04,120 or uh on the April 8th meeting 174 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:07,640 page six number six I I told melie was a vote of 175 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:31,240 six and on I had questions on the treasures report on page 176 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:35,559 15 um it was pointed out me that a res that sport complex go on 177 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:50,559 that on yeah page 15 of the treasures report Parks and Recreation or Sports 178 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:56,360 complexes left off of that 179 00:19:53,360 --> 00:20:02,640 well I can answer that what I sent you an email comping that the answer is 180 00:19:59,880 --> 00:20:07,080 you remember my answer you can we renamed that the sports complex 181 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:11,159 no longer listed on the treasur report it's noted as a 2 million debt 182 00:20:09,039 --> 00:20:17,480 certificate this will match it up with the actual debt service within our 183 00:20:13,559 --> 00:20:17,480 budget as the $2 million 184 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:30,640 go any other questions yes Mike um I talked to m 185 00:20:52,760 --> 00:21:00,360 Dave well when they adj the meeting you were here 186 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:11,799 okay I'll thank you yeah you guys got home water learn I did 187 00:21:15,120 --> 00:21:22,880 that okay anything 188 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:26,400 else okay I had a couple questions on T okay go ahead 189 00:21:27,159 --> 00:21:38,760 um um I didn't know that was one of them was the treasures report thing 190 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:43,559 um they corrected one in um Arthur J Gallagher on page nine middle of the 191 00:21:40,919 --> 00:21:47,840 page that should have read The Parks and Recreation instead of parks in 192 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:53,840 forestry um page nine betterman asphalt paving 193 00:21:51,960 --> 00:22:01,600 was for cold patch um constellation on page 194 00:21:58,679 --> 00:22:08,679 constellation Parks and Recreation for 964 was for electricity at the sports 195 00:22:10,679 --> 00:22:19,799 complex um I'm waiting for a Menard's billing uh 196 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:27,480 I'm just thinking we're trying to promote buying within our city so if our 197 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:30,480 own businesses can provide services rather 198 00:22:39,679 --> 00:22:47,559 and the wh side County Health Department uh for $50 was for the inspection of the 199 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:53,000 Community Kitchen I had questions on those I 200 00:22:49,919 --> 00:22:53,000 didn't know if anyone else 201 00:22:54,159 --> 00:22:58,640 did any other questions 202 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:13,000 okay I'll entertain a motion in a second to approve the consent agendas of 203 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:18,520 presented second we have a motion and second roll 204 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:25,360 call yes yesan yes wood yes 205 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:32,240 corre Rose Conley yes motion carried has been given 206 00:23:29,279 --> 00:23:36,600 for the consent agenda presented now move on to items for 207 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:42,320 consideration of impossible action on first being ordinance 208 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:49,159 13-10 approval of the fiscal year 2013 20104 budget copies on pages 23 through 209 00:23:46,159 --> 00:23:49,159 58 210 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:08,200 I'll entertain a motion and a second for approval of the budget if you so 211 00:24:04,120 --> 00:24:08,200 wish I think we need a little more 212 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:14,120 inform corre are you