[0:00] no I iil
[0:30] is this
[0:37] your ladies and gentlemen just to remind
you this is a public hearing so whether
[0:42] you're going to speak or not we need you
to sign the sign in sheet for the public
[0:47] record so if you forgotten to do that
please do so
[1:01] ladies and gentlemen I'd like to welcome
you
[1:03] to this public hearing for the fiscal
year 2013 2014 budget the time is
[1:11] 650 p.m. date April 22nd
[1:17] 2013 herea here here suan here here wood
here Rose here Conley here we have
[1:27] everyone in attendance you can stand and
recite the budg Al with
[1:37] me of the United States of America and
to the Republic for it stands one nation
[1:44] under God
indivisible andice for
[1:58] all the purpose this hearing is to
receive public comments on the fiscal
[2:02] year 2013 2014
budget Harvey zida you're up
[2:09] first thank you mayor uh page 16 of the
[2:20] budget oh yeah PR L
it uh page 16 of the budget uh field
[2:27] groomer uh on this year we paid
$10,500 for that groomer but I think we
[2:33] had uh about $7 8,000 That was supposed
to be paid on next year's
[2:42] budget and I see we have a lot of Zer z
z for
[2:47] that I'm wondering where that money's
coming from or where we're going to get
[2:51] that
money it may be coming out of equipment
[2:56] Parks and Recreation $1,750
[3:02] but I I think it should I don't really
think you should uh show it that way I
[3:07] think it should show that you're paying
the rest of that money off on next
[3:12] year's
budget next year you're going to look at
[3:15] Park of recation on equipment you're
going to see
[3:18] $1,750 and you're going to want to spend
that again thank
[3:24] you thank you
[3:36] next we
have um at our uh budget meeting down at
[3:42] the library I asked a lot of questions
and was told that uh the administrator
[3:49] would get back to me and I never heard
from them and when I asked for the
[3:53] answers he said oh you have to email
them to me
[3:58] well uh I thought he was taking notes to
answer the questions I had but I sent a
[4:04] whole sheet of questions today and never
heard back from him either I heard from
[4:10] ever which was amazing because he's not
even working for the city yet
[4:17] um and I sent it all one at a time to
each of the olderman to see if they had
[4:22] any questions similar mine
[4:27] um I wasn't aware that we had had uh any
projects for Meadow Brook Drive Road
[4:34] Project or Scenic Road Project I'd like
to know more on these before we vote um
[4:40] not sure if the 120,000 will be enough
for French Creek Park ex
[4:45] extension um I'm not sure the length of
that um marking Market Street parking
[4:52] lot receive 25% of that
amount so is those changes made in our
[4:58] budget and what are the completion dates
on any of these
[5:03] projects um is there any way we can find
a way to pay for Street lighting other
[5:07] than from our M field packs and is this
for our entire city or just for main
[5:17] stre Parks and Recreation I see we have
8,750 for utilities are we going to look
[5:24] at alternative ways to save money on
this maybe uh close the par during the
[5:29] off
or change the plumbing system and the
[5:32] constant pressure system so that we can
shut it off and or maybe even get an
[5:37] estimate with that cost and um
maintenance service for the ground um we
[5:42] were told this would drop since Bal DS
were maturing but it went
[5:48] up and I don't know how our expenditures
dropped from 397 207 5,000 down to 21,
[5:57] 350 for Park
and streets we have engineering for
[6:04] $10,000 if we're doing several projects
is that
[6:08] enough and the community room
maintenance is a th000 um we need to
[6:15] address the break situation that it's
located in the library portion of the
[6:19] building so when the library is Coos and
someone runs the building no
[6:26] access and their utility tax is only
65,000 last year it looked like proposed
[6:32] was $
[6:35] 29,6 don't know what the difference is
there and miscellaneous income of
[6:43] $325,000 I'd like to know what's going
in there because our uh Auditors
[6:48] recommend that any income or expense
over a th should have its own line item
[6:53] for the budget for better
[6:57] clarification and salary aggregation is
all Department salaries
[7:05] total on that or is it separate I'm not
sure how that
[7:11] work and revenues are
up
[7:16] 587 225,000 and expenses are up
[7:23] 44488 where do these figures come from
and were some the expenses including a
[7:28] building inspect and where is that
coming
[7:33] from and I kind of would like to have
seen uh ending or beginning balance how
[7:38] be wor it I thought we were going to get
that for the general fund at least but
[7:46] projected ending balance for this year
or the beginning balance for this year
[7:50] would be it depending on how you're
looking at it
[8:00] next is Nancy
[8:13] Anderson Well I spent a great deal of
time the last few days looking at his
[8:18] budget and I've taught school for 43
years much but another education
[8:22] advanced
math and I call this best thing as
[8:26] example of a shell game and that you can
follow through and
[8:31] anything um and my reest basically is
this I look at the beginning page one
[8:36] and
two and trying to understand this
[8:39] because this is so important to
everybody the motor fuel tax for a
[8:44] revenue for this year was 11
15,28 for
[8:49] 1213 anticipated it will go to 432,000
plus from 115,000 plus to
[8:56] $432,000 plus revenue is quite a
jump then you go to the expend
[9:02] expenditures for the motor fuel tax and
for 1213 for expenditures
[9:11] 145,000 for year 14 13 14 projections
640,000
[9:17] plus those are huge
numbers different when you go back to
[9:22] the beginning of the of the dialogue was
here from years 2005 and six I looked at
[9:27] all the numbers across the board you
have this big jump at 9 10 and then you
[9:30] come to this year 12 13 to 14 big jumps
a lot of times I wonder what happened
[9:35] then you go to the page referring to the
community our community room again this
[9:39] is put into the um a general fund one of
our general fund
[9:44] expenses and the point was it used to
make $122,000 a
[9:48] year now we're making $4,500 a year the
reason why is that a room that was added
[9:55] on to the library given to the citizens
because it's theirs and we've gone
[9:59] backwards in Revenue why because we're
not using it why because it's in poor
[10:04] repair why because that's the way the
budget was set
[10:08] up then you go to the part about Parks
and Recreation you try to follow through
[10:11] that I keep looking for sports complex
and the fact that in March it had
[10:16] $186,000 deficit March it had $177,000
deficit trying to figure that
[10:22] out I can't find it anywhere or
understand it I would ask our new mayor
[10:27] that's coming on board shortly Mr
and the new Council and for those who
[10:31] are going to be retained to please try
to develop a format for the next budget
[10:37] but you start very early and work with a
budget that you can read and understand
[10:42] this is really crucial to everybody
they're always hard they're always
[10:46] complicated but you need to have
everybody understand it not just the
[10:50] person who writes
it not just the city administrator it
[10:54] needs to be by all eight of you and the
mayor and everybody involved in this
[10:58] policy so I my recommendation is please
take your
[11:03] time don't just vote on it because you
you're down to a deadline give yourself
[11:07] time next time and try to make it so
it's feasible to
[11:17] understand thank you
[11:34] sir you were the late attendee did you
want to offer any comments or
[11:40] not yes I have no comment okay thank
[11:52] you okay now we move on to written
statements has anybody received any
[11:58] written statements regarding
budget any council members any
[12:11] staff okay we've received verbal
statements so we had no written
[12:15] statements that I'm aware
of so we will close this public hearing
[12:21] at this time
[12:31] we'll be moving on to our regular
reading now
[12:35] so if you'd like to offer comments
during the regular meeting please sign
[12:40] the new sheet for the uh council
[12:48] meeting if you're just attending the
council meeting it doesn't have the same
[12:53] uh criteria is a public hearing so you
don't have to sign if you're simply
[12:57] attending but if if you would like to
make comments please sign in we'll wait
[13:02] till 7:05 in case we get a late attendee
for the meeting
[13:54] you
[14:18] for
[14:39] ladies and gentlemen clock says 705 so
I'd like to welcome you to our Monday
[14:44] April 22nd 2013 regularly scheduled
council
[14:49] meeting roll
call Lane here th here suvan here here
[14:57] wood yes Rose
[15:01] okay and I'd like to invite you to stand
and recite the Pledge of Allegiance
[15:04] prior to this meeting as
[15:11] well to the FL of the United States of
America and to the repblic for it stands
[15:19] one nation under God indivisible with
liberty and justice for all
[15:33] Brian do we have anybody signed in okay
we have no one signed in for public
[15:39] comments we'll move on to board and
commission reports you'll find a copy of
[15:43] the historic preservation commission
minutes on pages one through
[15:46] two those are self-explanatory
[16:01] and I move on to the report of City
[16:05] officers as mayor I'd like to
congratulate all those
[16:10] who well all those who ran for office um
we had more interest this year than
[16:16] we've had in many years I'd like to con
congratulate those who won the election
[16:22] and welcome them
unofficially on board tonight in 3 weeks
[16:29] we'll welcome you
[16:32] officially and I would like to recognize
Ernie Hing for service the city treasur
[16:37] he'll be leaving us at the end of the
month so he won't be here at our next
[16:42] meeting and thank you for your service
as treasure as well as your service
[16:47] through the years and other capacities
are my
[16:53] pleasure move on to our city
[16:57] clerk City administrator nothing to
report your honor City
[17:04] attorney in uh keeping with the mayor
welcome to the newly elected council
[17:08] members those that are here that haven't
previously served just for reminder you
[17:12] will need to go online and complete your
uh open meetings and pre Information Act
[17:16] training um to become acquainted with
those Provisions if you have any
[17:20] questions about it just let me know
thank
[17:24] you City
Treasurer I have
[17:33] thank you and now move on to the report
of department heads
[17:38] Gary uh yeah your honor thank you I'd
like to uh recognize the uh Department
[17:45] of Public Works for the job they did uh
when they were asked to
[17:50] sandbay along with the uh fire
department and we also had a couple EMTs
[17:56] or paramedics help out Police Department
uh uh also later that night on a water
[18:03] main break on uh milon's Drive helped us
out uh tremendously too get notices out
[18:10] to people and uh everybody really worked
well together um and I just want to
[18:18] thank
everybody thank
[18:20] you
[18:25] br thank you Mr May uh my report last
week hopefully everybody got it unless
[18:32] have any
[18:36] questions thank
you Nick do you have
[18:41] anything thank
you now move on then to the incent
[18:48] agenda is there anything anybody has any
questions
[18:52] or uh on
the April 8th meeting
[18:59] page six number six I I told melie was a
vote of
[19:19] six and on I had questions on the
treasures report on page
[19:25] 15 um it was pointed out me that a res
that sport complex go on
[19:39] that on yeah page 15 of the treasures
report Parks and Recreation or Sports
[19:47] complexes left off of
that
[19:53] well I can answer that what I sent you
an email comping that the answer is
[19:59] you remember my answer you
can we renamed that the sports complex
[20:05] no longer listed on the treasur report
it's noted as a 2 million debt
[20:09] certificate this will match it up with
the actual debt service within our
[20:13] budget as the $2 million
[20:21] go any other
questions yes Mike um I talked to m
[20:52] Dave well when they adj the
meeting you were here
[21:06] okay I'll thank you yeah you guys got
home water learn I did
[21:15] that
okay anything
[21:18] else okay I had a couple questions on T
okay go ahead
[21:27] um um I didn't know that was one of them
was the treasures report thing
[21:34] um they corrected one in um Arthur J
Gallagher on page nine middle of the
[21:40] page that should have read The Parks and
Recreation instead of parks in
[21:46] forestry
um page nine betterman asphalt paving
[21:51] was for cold
patch um constellation on page
[21:58] constellation Parks and Recreation for
964 was for electricity at the sports
[22:10] complex
um I'm waiting for a Menard's billing uh
[22:18] I'm just thinking we're trying to
promote buying within our city so if our
[22:23] own businesses can provide services
rather
[22:39] and the wh side County Health Department
uh for $50 was for the inspection of the
[22:46] Community
Kitchen I had questions on those I
[22:49] didn't know if anyone else
[22:54] did any other questions
[23:02] okay I'll entertain a motion in a second
to approve the consent agendas of
[23:08] presented second we have a motion and
second roll
[23:14] call yes
yesan yes wood yes
[23:21] corre Rose
Conley yes motion carried has been given
[23:29] for the consent agenda
presented now move on to items for
[23:34] consideration of impossible action on
first being ordinance
[23:38] 13-10 approval of the fiscal year 2013
20104 budget copies on pages 23 through
[23:46] 58
[23:59] I'll entertain a motion and a second for
approval of the budget if you so
[24:04] wish I think we need a little more
[24:08] inform
corre are you