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Good evening. I call this work session on the Morseville town council order for April 24th, 2025. We have two items to discuss tonight, and we're going to reverse the order from the agenda. We're going to start with budget work session on expenditures, and then we're going to do town council roundtable. So at this time, I'd like to pass it to Brandon Zudimer, our town manager, and Byron Hayes, our chief financial officer, to get us started, sir. Thank you mayor, good evening, everyone. So we have a presentation for you tonight. You were called two weeks ago that we focused

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just primarily on the revenue side of where we stood at this point.

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And so tonight is going to focus primarily on the investment or expenditure side.

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What we're going to be able to do with the funds that we have.

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We're going to walk you through, we're going to sort of tag team as we go.

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I'm taking the easy stuff, he's taking the hard stuff, but we'll walk through.

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This is, and again, I think before we jump in, just want to remind you this is not the recommended budget.

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It is very close, but it is not the recommended budget.

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We will certainly try to answer any questions you have tonight and use your feedback tonight to then develop a recommended budget.

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Our intention is to get that to you Monday, the 28th.

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So you have that two weeks in advance of the meeting on the 13th and

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give you plenty of time to be able to go through that in more detail once we've finalized what comes out of tonight.

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Again, just for the public, this will be released to the public on Friday, May 9th, in the head of the May 13th meeting where I'll present it.

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We then have a May 15th work session and public hearing, and then the proposed date for adoption is the May 27th meeting.

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If for any reason that we're not to occur, we have the flexibility for a May 29th work session that was calendar as an optional work session.

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And then we would come back at the first meeting in June and seek adoption that night.

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So with that, I'm going to turn over to Byron and get us started. Thank you.

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All right, so we will start with just a quick update on our community engagement.

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First, wanted to just point out where we stood with our preliminary budget portal.

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As I believe I talked you all back in during retreat, we got about 86 participants in our

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preliminary budget portal.

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Give you guys a sense of kind of what we asked for.

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We shortened it a little bit, which is a little different than what we normally did.

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we only had two questions. One, where we asked the community what they, what their most important

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priority, council priority was for them and then kind of an open-ended question just to see if

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they had any additional feedback. That survey basically yielded the top two priorities being

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thriving livable neighborhoods in public safety readiness. After that, we went to holy and started our

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bracket kind of preliminary bracket engagement. So same basic concept, but the idea that we went

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out into the community and actually gave them the opportunity to provide input about which priorities

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were most important to them. After wholly, with 100 participants, we ultimately found that quality

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life and state community was the most important at that time. That gave us the input that we needed

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in order to be able to post our online portal submissions. When we started the bracket online,

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we ended up with 67 responses as of the 15th of this month.

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We closed that survey today,

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so we will have some additional information

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to be able to bring back to you all at the next time,

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with a total concept of what that campaign ended up looking like.

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But after the 15th with those 67 responses,

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we ended up seeing the same thing that we saw at Holy,

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safe community and quality of life

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being our two highest priorities.

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We also went to various advisory committees.

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The senior center is the one that we have detailed on currently.

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The others we are waiting for them to basically finalize responses to us.

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Today was kind of the last day that we are going to get those with the understanding that we're also going to go to a couple in May as well.

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The senior center brought back the same as Holy and the online bracket.

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it, safe community and quality life being the top two responses that we've gotten so far.

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As I stated a second ago, this is still preliminary.

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We will have the rest of the detail once we kind of compile everything after it close

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today.

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But overall, what we're hearing from the community is safe community and quality life being

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the top two priorities for them this particular year.

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So we'll move on and we'll go into challenges and opportunities.

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So to give you some highlights of where we are, the left hand column there is going to be some of the challenges that we are collectively facing and then on the right side we'll talk about some opportunities.

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I don't think any of these will surprise you. Operation inflationary impacts.

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Yeah, we're adding over $100,000 to the...

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We have a base budget, just in operational impacts from the inflation that relates primarily to our contracts and agreements that we have with people providing service for us. Obviously, as our community continues to grow, the needs and the expectations continue to grow. We are doing our best to balance those against the revenue that we have to invest. Also, onboarding new and expanded facilities continues to add to the work that we need to do. It also, in some cases, adds to the staff that we need to have to maintain those facilities.

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Again, we talk a lot about economic instability and volatility, so we have taken a very proactive

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budget strategy.

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We'll talk more about that tonight, and we're also monitoring indicators for any sensitive

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revenue sources.

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Obviously, sales tax is probably our greatest concern at this point as far as where that

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goes.

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Also monitoring utilities.

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That's a decent chunk of the budget, and then some smaller offsets that are there.

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Again, balancing existing commitments with new opportunities, we intentionally don't

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include everything we routinely do in base budget to give us some flexibility.

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That's one of the tools we've always used not just this year.

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So things like the reserve revenue money that we put into those accounts and then also

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things like the public safety reserve fund and then vehicles.

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You know, that's typically about a half a million dollars a year, but we don't guarantee

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a half a million dollars a year depending on what the budget may look like.

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Also again, we have to align those new requests with offsetting revenues, so we are certainly

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working to build revenue, which you will see when we get the message to you that there are

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some increases in some of the fees.

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You've already heard some of the things that Parks and Rec is doing to try to increase some

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of their revenues to offset some of the additional opportunities they're trying to offer.

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Generally, over 7% of our operating revenues and we, again, are directed to those future

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reserves we talked about.

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That's the three reserves that have been created for transportation, parks, and land acquisition.

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And then, again, those are each of the pennies.

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Right now, that's about 700, excuse me, $970, that was $10,000.

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I think it's right.

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Thank you.

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Good call.

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So, maybe they were flagging me over there, I didn't see them, but thank you, Councilmember

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Robody.

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I was on a roll.

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Again, that's going into those three reserves and then also $850,000 right now goes into

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that public safety reserve that allows us to pay cash when we purchase large apparatus

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that saves us money at the time rather than doing an interest basis and then some other

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equipment that's also included in that fund.

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So, lots of challenges. Some are existing challenges. A couple of those are things we haven't

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necessarily had to focus on the last couple of years. And then on the right side, there

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is good news. There are opportunities. We spent some time talking at the last meeting this

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week about sponsorship investments for both capital and operating potential and also getting

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that consulting policy and that support in place. And we'll be back to you soon with some

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updates on the questions that were asked Tuesday as well.

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Again, we have opportunities to build the talent pipeline through recruitment and retention.

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That is a challenge that everyone is facing, but I think we are being, well, I know we

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are being proactive.

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We are not sitting back and, you know, what was me, we're taking intentional steps.

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So part of that is, you know, specific succession development, so we're implementing a leadership

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Academy. So we have been fortunate to be assigned a fellow from UNC for the following

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year that fellow will work in the HR department and focus on leadership academy and training

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opportunities to continue to develop our staff. Again, we also, as I mentioned, we're taking care

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of those, taking advantage of those professional fellows to come in and also sending our staff

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to external training. And then we're doing what we can to be market competitive. You've been very clear

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throughout, at least my time here, that you care about and want to make sure that we

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are taking care of our staff. And I can tell you that I appreciate that because I have

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the same goal. And I can tell you that staff appreciates that. They may not always rush

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up to you to say that. But when we have conversations, they do truly appreciate that. Particularly

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staff that's worked other places and hasn't always had the benefits of what you do for our

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staff. So thank you for that. And you'll see that in this budget that you're

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We're asking you to invest about $2 million in existing staff through the potential for

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COLA, Merit, longevity, and paying class adjustments to keep us at market.

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And then really, lastly, in fiscal readiness, we talk a lot about the fund balance and where

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we'd like it to be.

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But we have a very solid fund balance that is an asset to us and gives us some flexibility.

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We consistently control spending limits when we hit July 2nd.

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It's not a buy-it-all, it's a very controlled spending so that we aren't having to rely too much on fun balance through the year until we start to see revenues coming.

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And again, you're going to see...

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Some recommendations tonight that even further looks at controlling spending in the interest of being conservative and giving us a little opportunity to be ready if things were to be worse with sales tax, for example, than we anticipate. Again, manage use of cash reserves. Those reserves you're putting away come in handy when there are identified projects. And then also we oftentimes have those one-offs that come up or show up that are opportunities and that gives us some flexibility there. And then the last thing I would say is, you know,

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And we're very fortunate to be in a really strong regional economy.

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So what we face here is going to be potentially not as bad as what even others in North Carolina

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face say, nothing of around the country, because of the regional economic strength here.

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Byron.

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All right.

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So before we dive into expenses, I do want to take a look at where we are potentially going

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to end up long-term.

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So, this is just a chart, kind of taking a look at, from 2023, all the way up to 2030,

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just projecting out where revenues ultimately will be.

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Do you want to point out that this is a pretty conservative look at revenues?

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They're growing early on at about 5% to 7%, and then later it's growing at about 3% to 5%.

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So, that's pretty standard.

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We don't want to project too high and be too aggressive in those later years.

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we want to kind of give a pretty good look at where ultimately it's going to be.

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When looking at the chart, you do see that there are three darker lines there.

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Those represent our revaluation years. As you all know,

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what county is moving from a four-year cycle to a two-year cycle. So this builds in

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the initial three years for the phase in and then from that point on it's two years. So

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to 2028 and 2030 are both reevaluation years.

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And just like I said, this is still continued

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to be pretty conservative in our estimates

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for this particular projection

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and ultimately in 2030 looking at a little bit over

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about $80 million in those five years.

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So moving on to kind of what makes up those factors

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in those future budgets,

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we are considering the fact that there are calls

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the service increases that we will probably see over the course of the next five years.

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We know our personnel calls have gone up just not only dollar-wise but also percentage-wise

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in the past ten years due to the fact that as we continue to grow as a community we continue

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to increase service and in order to increase service and maintain those service levels we

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do have to maintain staffing levels as well.

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And we do appreciate the fact that Council's been attentive to that, and that we've been able to fill those positions and be able to meet the needs of the community in that manner.

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But not only are we looking to, you know, continue those staffing increases over the course of time, but also look for other technological advances in order to maintain some level of efficiency within the organization as well.

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We know we can't just staff our way up to service levels all the time, we need to look for other efficiencies in order to be able to be the type of nimble community that you all are expecting of us.

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Also want to talk a little bit about new development and redevelopment.

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We know that the town is built out for the most part but we do have opportunities for redevelopment.

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That was not necessarily captured all the way in that in the previous graph.

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We know that things are going to come in the future, we just don't know what those are.

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So we don't want to project anything that isn't necessarily guaranteed to come to fruition.

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However, we do maintain some level of projections in there for some of our current redevelopments

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and other zoning ordinance changes that you all have approved that help with some of that.

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And then lastly, just want to take a look at the fact that we do want to make sure that we're proactive

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in terms of our economic development and in terms of being able to have a seat at the table

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when whenever they're going to be major economic changes within the region to make sure that

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we can strike while the iron is hot and make sure that we have a seat at the table in order

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to be able to affect the type of change that Morrisville needs when the rest of the region is also looking

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at making other changes.

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So the next slide you've seen this and we're not going to spend a lot of time

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on it, but think it's good as a quick reminder, and also if we have folks watching that haven't

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seen this before, the inside there, the six colors are our six strategic plan goals.

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We spend a lot of time talking about them, and then this year, again, you created collaboratively

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ten priorities for the budget, and those ten priorities are outlined around the outside

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of the strategic plan goals, and you can see how they generally align with primarily one

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of those six goals. And we are, again, we're using this along with the information we're getting back from.

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We, to make sure that what we're trying to invest in is what you need us and want us to invest in and what will best support our community.

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So take a look at our facts and figures. This is a chart you all have seen in the past and I don't want to dwell too much on each of the different bullet points. Just want to call out two things. Number one being our average revenue growth. Typically we see a revenue growth of about 10% this year. We're projecting about 7% that's due to the fact that we work cognizant of what you all told us.

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us about your concerns about the economy and so our projections are relatively conservative

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this year. So that growth level is not quite the same as it typically is. However, we

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are considering the fact that as the year continues on, you know, around the March, April

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point, when we start to see how to good sense of where we are with sales tax and some of

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our other revenues, if we have the ability to reappropriate additional dollars that are

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coming in, that we didn't necessarily plan for, that we would see in a more traditional

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more aggressive look at our projections, that is something that we will be looking at doing in order

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to be able to increase the budget to get some of those one-time projects done this particular year,

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instead of having to wait until future budget cycles. And then also want to point out the other

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bullet point about our tax-based component. As you all know last year we saw not just a pretty major

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increase in our assess value, but we saw our commercial tax base and our residential tax base

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and about 57 to 43%. This year we're seeing that that kind of level back out a little bit.

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So our commercial versus residential is at about 54 to 46. So it's starting to come back down

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and level out a little bit and just wanted to point that out as well. Moving on to the next slide.

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This is a list of our total our total requests for the year from our staff. This is something I believe

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we've we've shown you all before in the past in this particular format. And I believe we've shown

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this when we first got those results but ultimately just want to point out that of this 14.5 million

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dollars it is outlined in all of the different council priorities that you all gave to us.

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All of these aren't necessarily funded, we don't have the ability to fund every single request

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that came in. However, we were able to get a good majority of those but just wanted to point out

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that of these 14.5 million dollars they are in those particular categories.

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Moving on to kind of where we started with our base budget and where we're ending up

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right now in this particular preview, we should you all initially that our base budget

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for revenues was at about 58.3, our base budget for expenditures was at about 51.15.

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We were able to get about 11 and a half of that $14.5 million in request funded, however,

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they didn't all just come from that base budget capacity.

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We have other means of being able to fund that both through reserves, offsetting revenues

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as the manager talked about earlier, and other grant opportunities that we have.

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Ultimately, right now, we're sitting at about $62.6 million that we're looking at.

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However, keep in mind that this is still preliminary, we're still working through all of these changes

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and we will be bringing you back a recommended budget that's not only balanced, but we'll

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be complete at that time.

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All right.

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So, next we want to talk through the 10 goals, the 10 priorities, and generally what we

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are able to do or what will be in your recommended budget, and then a little later we'll talk

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about some specifics of what may be actually in and what may not be in to give you some

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look at some of the things that I think you have interest in.

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So business collaboration, that's $45,000, that's going to the economic development department

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that is going to support a marketing campaign and some enhanced outreach programs.

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You know, we also have our renewed collaboration with the Chamber, as well as working on some marketing development

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through both Tiffany and Amelia in economic development.

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And again, that's $45 additional.

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They already have a base budget that was developed this year, this fiscal year.

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So that's $45,000 additional dollars to do that investment with them.

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From the community viewpoint, about $250,000 part of that is developing in advance community

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dashboard.

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We've had some conversations about that of us using more data to identify outcome measures.

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So that will be a part of that.

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We are also the unique video engagement is the rep software we continue to see good success

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with that.

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We're getting interactions in community.

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Again, we get good questions that we can respond to.

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We also have the ability to push out information through rep.

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Some amenity availability, smart sensor expansion, again, we are trying to do the best job we can to track use and availability of our park amenities primarily around tennis courts right now, but moving into potentially like the basketball courts.

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Park Southern Law, Pickleball Courts, and other things. So again, using the technology, rather than having to have people out there and tracking in, and that gives real time information to our community. Continue to expand public Wi-Fi access in our parks. And then we have some additional investment into our events department or events division in parks and rec to let them continue to grow some of our events and introduce perhaps some others. Economic resiliency. There's about $1.3 million there.

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that includes the future community investments that we are making and you'll see some stars next to a couple of these and those stars will be explained when we get to another slide but they're part of what we're going to potentially hold on to until April to make sure that the revenues are where we think they are and we'll come back to that.

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So we do have some town center debt that starts this year based on the bonds that we issued in the current fiscal year.

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We are continuing to work on infrastructure improvements.

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That's not only sidewalks and intersection improvements, but

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other related projects, perimeter park area study.

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So Michelle has recommended that so that we take a closer look at what is going on with that office space.

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It really becomes applicable across the town.

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And so again, trying to protect the existing tax base that's out there.

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We know you have some, we have and we know you have some concerns with what happens if that does not get

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reoccupied. So, that's a way to take a look at that. And then, again, sponsorship opportunities.

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This currently includes the funding we discussed Tuesday. Obviously, we'll be back to you

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with that and see where that ends up at. And then on this page, the last one is inclusivity.

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So, about $135,000 part of that is dedication to continuing the language access program

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by converting the current fellow into a position in communications so that that work can continue

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in trying to expand our outreach to the community, expand our support to our staff and being

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able to effectively communicate and outreach. And then there's also money in here to continue

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the public art icon and potentially murals depending on the cost of the icon.

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So the next slide we start with operational excellence. That's about $642,000. Some technology

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advancements and replacements. You know, Rick and his team are always looking at new opportunities.

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How do we make ourselves better?

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How do we make ourselves safer?

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So there's some investment there in security measures,

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both physical security and also online security,

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facility care and maintenance,

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which ultimately creates long-term savings,

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but we're continuing to maintain our buildings,

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updated grounds, and facility tools,

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again, to help us work better and also more efficiently.

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So not necessarily any more people,

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but adding tools that we don't necessarily have to have hands on

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all the time to work.

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and then of course leadership and succession planning, which will build our future.

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Next will be quality of life. So again, maximizing parks program capacity to meet the needs of our community.

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You've heard some of that from the parks department in terms of expanding opportunities at CFCC.

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We'll be doing a expansion at the senior center that will enhance programming.

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Always trying to keep M-A-F-C as full as we can and they were keeping it full.

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And then some enhancements in the athletic programs as well.

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There is money in this budget for the park's master plan update that obviously informs where we're headed with future operating and capital decisions.

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We are have identified a funding source for that, which is the bond premium that came with the most recent bond sale.

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We had talked about potentially the park reserve, but from the meeting I heard pushed back on that and concerns with why and then has some other conversations.

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So, we've looked a different way to make sure that we can get that going without hitting a reserve for that because we appreciate your desire to make sure we protect the reserves.

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And then just generally some needed facility updates, we continue to have aging buildings so that makes us have to do work to keep them safe and accessible and looking like they should as a town facility.

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Recognizing successes, again, this is where the money comes in for competitive packages

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to retain skills and knowledge, strategic event support to improve customer service,

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and then also investment in our talent pipeline to make sure that we are doing that work to

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develop the staff that we currently have while also improving our efforts to recruit qualified

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candidates.

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Lastly, on this page, safe community, that's about $4.5 million.

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You can see that generally aligns with that being one of the priorities of everyone, staff,

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council, community.

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So, innovative equipment and investigative tools that includes looking at a digital forensic lab for the police department

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that's up.

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Probably in the neighborhood of about $50,000, there is some grant money to support that, and also some asset money that they can use to support that. Improve fire prevention. That would include an assistant fire marshal position that would replace two part time employees that we currently, well, two part time positions that we currently have that are hard to fill and hard to keep working. So it's it's about I think $127,000 for that position.

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but we've got $54,000 in existing monies in the part-time budget that we would apply to that.

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And then, Giselle has also been working with the Chief Dewey and the Fire Marshall,

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and they have identified some fee increases that bring us a little closer to market

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that will also generate $20,000 to $25,000.

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So, it's not a full ask.

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We're, again, trying to be creative with revenues to offset some of the asks.

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This includes two community resource officers that would be civilians part-time in the police

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department.

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So they would be doing things like minor traffic crash investigation.

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You've heard Chief Acosta talk about that that's now allowed in North Carolina.

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So that would save a sworn officer from having to do that work.

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They could also provide traffic control at other crashes.

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They can be a relief for school crossing guards.

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And then they can also be another presence at community events, all of which potentially

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allows police officers to do more work without having to pay for more police officers.

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Security initiatives sort of mentioned that earlier, working to harden up our buildings, and

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also make sure that our network is safe and secure.

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And then pedestrian ADA, ADA, excuse me, accessibility.

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So, part of that is improvements and then part of that is a study of all of our facilities

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that's sort of a joint effort between public works and parks.

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Sustainability environment, we continue to work on the master plan initiatives.

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So, they're actually carrying over $333,000.

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Part of that is related to solar that got paused because of the buy America and buy,

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excuse me, buy America, buy America, build America.

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I'll get it.

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So some of that carries over, and then, of course, that's on top of the $200,000 that's in base budget.

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So the Sustainability Program will have about $533,000 in FY26.

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Some of that will go to a matching grant to continue solar, so that is coming to the connector.

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We just replaced the roof on that building if you've driven by and noticed that.

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So solar, it's now ready for solar, and then also some solar at MFC.

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We are also, I think, to Council Member Scrogg and Johnson's point.

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There was an ask for a part-time employee.

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We are, instead, going to start with an intern, and that intern is going to use some existing

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part-time money that is in the Public Works budget, so we can provide that support without asking

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for a position.

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Lastly, transportation, again, planning for future infrastructure investments to ease congestion,

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also sustaining the current smart shuttle program.

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Of course, the alternative transit study is happening as well to see what the next steps might be and then this also includes some enhanced equipment for public works that would allow for better and easier and more efficient sidewalk maintenance questions

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want to keep going first?

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Sure.

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The internship for sustainability, what's the link the time? Is it just a summer position or what?

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I think that'll determine on Jeffery and Kimberly coming up with a plan for an advertisement seeing what the interest is there whether that is a college student that's looking for a semester in that file that with another intern or if there's somebody that would be interested in doing that for a longer period of time and perhaps seeing if it were to turn into a position in the future.

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Okay, so it hasn't been determined.

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No, okay.

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Not entirely.

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All right, thanks.

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Okay.

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Yes ma'am.

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So, on the Perimeter Park study, I don't understand why we need a Perimeter Park study if we have an economic development

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person that could conceivably, I mean, I thought part of her job was finding businesses to put in places that are empty.

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So, she is responsible for finding businesses.

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The challenge is that Perimeter Park is a little bit different because it's not traditional business space.

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it's mostly office space and they're having trouble with not only filling that but now they also have

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expiring leases that that haven't impacted them previously but will continue to impact over the

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next couple of years so this would be coming out of the planning department primarily looking at

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what is the impact there what are options in terms of converting those into something else if the

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owners are interested in trying to work with us and do that and it's a perimeter part study but it

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also can expand across town to other offices that have vacancies as well.

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Okay. I actually think that belongs in economic development as well. It might be related to planning

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with the outcomes, but the study should be led by the economic development role because

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is that all kind of folds in,

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because you understand what the needs are,

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what the opportunities are,

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and that corresponds with potential businesses.

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Now, the needs of the spaces can be shared with planning,

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but I think with all due respect,

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we just hired somebody specifically looking at

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that area of town,

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and that's what I believe economic development is for.

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It's looking at this space.

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Maybe she doesn't have the expertise,

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but if she can lead it,

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then that really kind of adds a depth of experience

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and it really gives us a better hold

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and that we didn't have before.

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She will certainly be a part of that and she may end up leading that I think it's coming out of planning right now because it's consistent with other

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Small area plans that have been done because it may ultimately involve UDO impact to how do we allow the UDO to foster what might be able to come there

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So it would certainly be a paired. So what is the fee associated with this study? I think that's important for me to appreciate

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So I think the estimate is two hundred one fifty

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Yeah, 150 and what is the timeline if

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you don't mind.

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Yes, that yes

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so Tiffany and I have talked about this one and we would be collaborating on it if it's approved

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What we were looking at was really two phases to the study and

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Phase one we are anticipating she would take more of a lead on

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Even though the whole thing was proposed by the planning phase one

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while we'd be collaborating she'd be more heavily involved and then phase two would be more planning so phase one would be a gap analysis that looks at the entire town and the market and where is the market saturated and where their opportunities and that would be across all use types.

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and then that information would feed into a larger study of perimeter park to help inform that study.

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But the second part, we envision being more like typical sub area planning that you've seen in the past.

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Land use planning with a lot of community outreach, similar to the small area plans we did for the McCrim and Corridor,

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for town center, for TOD and really looking at that area to say, do we think the

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future is office? If not, let's start over and re-envision what this area could

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be and that could end up being any multitude of things. Thank you for that

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explanation. I think I still think she should lead and it sounds like the first

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part is a really good fit for that economic development vision because the whole

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town is what she is tasked to do, right?

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And the second part does make sense that

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it's a planning foundation, but I just really want us to lean into this

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economic development position when we see opportunities for depth and

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brought the experience and it's not, it's a senior level position so I want to see leadership

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from that role because we are a great town and we need to do, you know, great things

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and hopefully, you know, given people the right opportunities, we'll be able to get the

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return on the investment for the taxpayers.

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So thank you.

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Appreciate that.

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I do have a couple of other comments.

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One is regarding the transportation.

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I know that you said sustaining the smart shuttle program, but I would really emphasize

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that we have had a lot of discussion about ridership and the software that is managing the shuttle service

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has deficits in its inability to have concurrent writers or

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And it's not having a full shuttle at times. And then there's denial of service when there's certain peak times. And that is mostly a software issue and not necessarily too many people needing the service. So I would ask that we better understand if there is any future enhanced.

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to that software, what that cost might be so that it could be considered in the future

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as something that we have and something is not necessarily going to be funded or postponed

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that we could kind of move that into the top of the list because I know that we've talked

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about improving the shuttle service and that certainly has been on my mind a lot.

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But I want to have more cars off the road if we can and have more reliable service.

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And we've added additional weekend service.

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So let's do what we can to help.

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Yeah, no, it's definitely sort of a two-prong approach to improvement there, one of which

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we've already added the second Saturday shuttle.

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We are planning to add the second Sunday shuttle.

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So that will reduce some of the not available, some of the delays.

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and then Michelle and particularly Caleb continue to work with GoKerry and Viya to see if we can get improvements to that software.

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Great. Excellent point. Thank you.

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And then the last thing that I want to comment on, which is not in your presentation, which is extremely comprehensive.

415
00:36:44,180 --> 00:36:53,040
So you don't have to answer this tonight, but one of the things that struck me is that we're talking about the future and all the great things that we want to do

416
00:36:53,040 --> 00:37:00,680
and how we want to add staff because of the demands of the growing town and the service

417
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:07,660
levels that are required, but I did not see a slide in this deck at least for this meeting

418
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:13,740
of what are the service levels before, like from the last year or the last two years,

419
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:17,620
and how we, when we added staff that service level was increased.

420
00:37:17,620 --> 00:37:25,540
So, we need to tell the story before and after, if you will, just to show people the value

421
00:37:25,540 --> 00:37:29,760
that we've been returning, and I know that we have shared that in different meetings

422
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:37,440
in different contexts, but never maybe as a whole kind of like a slide or maybe two slides

423
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:42,940
to kind of tell that story a little bit more solidly, because I know there's going to be a lot

424
00:37:42,940 --> 00:37:50,460
eyes and they're just looking at us adding positions without really having

425
00:37:50,460 --> 00:37:57,320
that full appreciation for why, the why behind that. And one thing that might

426
00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:02,460
be helpful to tell that story is to add more metrics. And I know we collect

427
00:38:02,460 --> 00:38:08,120
metrics, you know, with the parks department and some of our smart

428
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:16,420
technology and so forth. So we do have in fire and police to show the increase in the demand

429
00:38:16,420 --> 00:38:23,060
for service and how that correlates. So that would be, I think, an interesting way to illustrate

430
00:38:23,060 --> 00:38:30,000
the value as well as if there's efficiencies that we've been able to manage with the extra staff

431
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:37,040
or through technology that would also help that a little bit. So I do think that

432
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:47,700
But our vision is strong, but telling everyone what a great way of coming along we are,

433
00:38:47,940 --> 00:38:49,380
that would be great to see.

434
00:38:50,100 --> 00:38:50,680
So thank you.

435
00:38:51,140 --> 00:38:52,020
Yeah, we can bring that back.

436
00:38:52,180 --> 00:38:53,080
Certainly bring that back.

437
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,280
Council Member Allen and Council Member Vendor.

438
00:38:57,420 --> 00:39:01,080
In terms of the planning, the perimeter park study, I think it's a hybrid.

439
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:07,040
I do understand where planning would have to start with planning, because I think that

440
00:39:07,900 --> 00:39:36,940
I'm looking at the uses, what would be allowed there, so initially it would be kind of looking at what potentially could be done, but then I think tying it into the economic development in terms of, okay, once you know, these are the uses, perhaps transitioning that to them, you know, leading and saying, well, these are the kinds of things that can fit there, whenever I look at that, imagine like, you know, could it be like a box yard, RTP where, you know, you could take old buildings that make it like the frontier, you know, kind of thinking then, what would that look like,

441
00:39:36,940 --> 00:39:41,400
So just throwing that out there, I think, you know, it's kind of what I would call a hybrid approach.

442
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:58,340
In terms of, and you might be talking about later, economic resiliency, does the cricket stadium fall into that in terms of, you know, where we are now and the future investments that we're going to look at?

443
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:29,980
Um, that down the road. So, uh, just to make sure I understand, are you asking, um, the changes to the cricket stadium or the cricket stadium, as it currently says? Um, well, just the, it's also an economic development argument. I mean, the fact that we had majorly cricket, and now that's going to be gone. And one of the kinds of investments and strategy that we have of our own funding going in, but also the strategy of Wake County, occupancy tax money.

444
00:40:29,980 --> 00:40:35,680
the kinds of amenities that we could build to either bring larger events there or even get

445
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:41,780
the MLC back which might be out of bringing it to us. So we have a presentation in the future

446
00:40:41,780 --> 00:40:46,400
and that am I getting ahead of myself? No, we do have a presentation coming again. So May 27th,

447
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:51,360
you'll hear from BDP, the consultant that we have hired that's done the study of Church Street Park,

448
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:57,960
and then we also have a session coming up with you to discuss the agreement that we have and where

449
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:00,880
we are with other components or aspects of cricket as well.

450
00:41:00,980 --> 00:41:03,300
What would be helpful in that is that the data somewhere,

451
00:41:04,060 --> 00:41:07,600
whether the, you know, how many over the years when we did big events,

452
00:41:07,820 --> 00:41:10,480
how many people came in, how many hotels that is there?

453
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:12,800
Is it loose collecting that information?

454
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:14,540
Is it us? Is it the county?

455
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:16,880
No, the county, the Greater Rally Sports Authority.

456
00:41:17,460 --> 00:41:18,500
So they can track that.

457
00:41:18,620 --> 00:41:19,560
Yeah, and we've used that.

458
00:41:20,060 --> 00:41:20,820
We've had that.

459
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:25,100
We shared some of that with you over time as far as what the impact was

460
00:41:25,100 --> 00:41:27,220
was over the last particularly three years

461
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:29,820
while we were in this agreement.

462
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:34,600
So that is, again, also part of why we have a good,

463
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:37,360
I think, opportunity to seek some

464
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,080
of the hospitality tax from the county,

465
00:41:39,380 --> 00:41:41,840
because my conversations with Dennis Edwards

466
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,360
and others, Lauren Gold, they acknowledge

467
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,100
and recognize that we are drawing

468
00:41:46,100 --> 00:41:47,900
some significant crowds out there,

469
00:41:48,300 --> 00:41:49,720
which impacts, you know, heads and beds,

470
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:51,800
it impacts meals, tax and other things, so.

471
00:41:53,940 --> 00:42:18,520
Yeah, and I will just say to in terms of the projection, it does not necessarily include any revenue sources that we don't currently have or don't currently have, you know, a commitment to so things like occupancy tax to be able to help fund anything out at church street, whether it's, you know, directly related to cricket tourism or cricket or the expansion of the facility, that's not necessarily built in here.

472
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:21,440
but neither is any other grant or revenue source

473
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:24,480
that we don't have an expectation of receiving in the picture.

474
00:42:24,740 --> 00:42:24,960
It's okay.

475
00:42:27,570 --> 00:42:28,170
That's more funer.

476
00:42:28,650 --> 00:42:28,950
Yes.

477
00:42:29,270 --> 00:42:31,170
I'd like to go back to the smart shuttle.

478
00:42:32,950 --> 00:42:36,700
A few meetings back.

479
00:42:37,260 --> 00:42:45,300
We talked to individuals that are doing a study on our smart shuttle.

480
00:42:45,740 --> 00:42:49,260
When are we supposed to get the results back from that study?

481
00:42:49,260 --> 00:42:55,100
the alternative transit study includes the smart shuttle, but also other components that just kicked off

482
00:42:55,600 --> 00:43:03,660
30, 45 days ago. I believe the responses are back this fall. There may be an initial update. Michelle

483
00:43:03,660 --> 00:43:06,840
can come up and give us a little detail. Sorry, Michelle, thank you.

484
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:16,740
So you'll see in the next

485
00:43:16,740 --> 00:43:21,460
news and notes that the public engagement is kicking off, attending a lot of our big events,

486
00:43:21,460 --> 00:43:23,560
that's coming up on Springfest and other things.

487
00:43:24,180 --> 00:43:28,920
Our goal is to get you an update in June,

488
00:43:29,140 --> 00:43:31,580
but it is going to be closer to the end of the year

489
00:43:31,580 --> 00:43:32,960
before that study is complete.

490
00:43:34,220 --> 00:43:35,640
Okay, thank you.

491
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:38,680
I'm just that

492
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:44,680
this wording that we're just sustaining

493
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:48,920
our Smart Shuttle program bothers me

494
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:52,900
because it makes it seem like we're not doing anything

495
00:43:52,900 --> 00:43:55,640
and to improve it or expand it.

496
00:43:55,700 --> 00:43:56,300
We can change that word.

497
00:43:57,760 --> 00:43:58,420
Thank you.

498
00:43:58,680 --> 00:43:59,040
All right.

499
00:43:59,380 --> 00:43:59,960
That's it.

500
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:04,440
Mayor Colley, and then I'll get Councilor.

501
00:44:12,730 --> 00:44:16,490
Are we going to be improving and enhancing?

502
00:44:17,310 --> 00:44:18,650
We are in the sense that we're still

503
00:44:18,650 --> 00:44:20,730
going to be adding the second Sunday shuttle.

504
00:44:21,290 --> 00:44:23,070
Beyond that, the approach has been

505
00:44:23,070 --> 00:44:25,730
that we're going to generally hold while this transit study

506
00:44:25,730 --> 00:44:28,510
is done, rather than adding, trying to add more stops

507
00:44:28,510 --> 00:44:30,170
that we don't know if we'll stay or not.

508
00:44:30,170 --> 00:44:34,170
you know we've added the most recent one on church street but after that we've

509
00:44:34,170 --> 00:44:38,390
essentially agreed that we're going to hold on well that study is conducted so

510
00:44:38,390 --> 00:44:41,830
we don't invest money there that might be better invested if there's an

511
00:44:41,830 --> 00:44:45,870
alternative identified and we just don't know what the outcome of that study will

512
00:44:45,870 --> 00:44:54,590
be okay they're calling so I just like to share some thoughts on the perimeter

513
00:44:54,590 --> 00:44:59,530
park study I'd like to just kind of begin with the end in mind and just keep

514
00:44:59,530 --> 00:44:59,810
in mine.

515
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:29,640
Own that property. It's pretty much up to those office holders, similarly to the help that we gave to Spark and pathways in that we got information from them about what could be a good path forward for them. So I don't necessarily feel like we need to be on the hook for a consultant if we can do a little bit more of that understanding in house and using networking for

516
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:34,040
that kind of knowledge. I don't know if we need a consultant to come in and essentially

517
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:39,020
tell us what time it is. So that's just something to keep in mind because there's only certain

518
00:45:39,020 --> 00:45:42,320
things that we're going to be able to do to actually move that needle and that's UDO based.

519
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:48,600
So planning will have to be important towards the end, but I'm not sure if paying a consultant

520
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:52,700
$150,000 is going to come up with something that no one else in the country understands.

521
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:59,140
I think the best practices are out there. So I think we just need to try to lean in and help our

522
00:45:59,140 --> 00:46:05,960
business community maintain their profits and their ability to operate in a

523
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:11,000
functional way. So, but that's coming in the future lots of time to discuss

524
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:15,380
about this one to sort of plant that seed early that that's not really our

525
00:46:15,380 --> 00:46:20,920
direct problem. It's going to affect us a lot but we can be helpers rather than

526
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:25,180
the driving force on that I think. So we certainly have an opportunity in that

527
00:46:25,180 --> 00:46:30,400
sense. So when we move to the next slide here that's going to talk about some things that we're

528
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:36,240
recommending delaying until April 1st that could be potentially one of those that could give Michelle

529
00:46:36,240 --> 00:46:43,720
her team and Tiffany and Amelia a chance to look at that perhaps consider what we might be able to do

530
00:46:43,720 --> 00:46:48,760
internally and then come back to you with some more explanation of if they still feel a study

531
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:53,140
you know we can offer some explanation in detail about why that's the what they feel in their

532
00:46:53,140 --> 00:46:54,660
professional opinion is the best way to go.

533
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:55,740
Thank you, sir.

534
00:46:56,220 --> 00:46:56,300
Okay.

535
00:46:58,650 --> 00:46:59,010
All right.

536
00:47:00,070 --> 00:47:01,290
So I'm sorry.

537
00:47:01,750 --> 00:47:01,950
My

538
00:47:10,240 --> 00:47:10,880
mic wasn't on.

539
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,540
I even highlighted this on slide 10,

540
00:47:13,540 --> 00:47:16,700
when you talk about the 11.5 million and holding,

541
00:47:17,460 --> 00:47:19,100
it's just 800 K.

542
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:20,920
So if need be,

543
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:23,320
why isn't it more than that?

544
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:24,800
Could it be more than that?

545
00:47:25,220 --> 00:47:26,580
Why that number?

546
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:27,580
Why those projects?

547
00:47:27,860 --> 00:47:28,060
And then,

548
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:30,900
is there opportunity?

549
00:47:30,900 --> 00:47:37,140
I just want to know for the answer to go in deeper if we need to.

550
00:47:37,860 --> 00:47:43,420
We certainly could, so I think how we got to the 800 was we were looking for a couple things.

551
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:47,500
One, what is work that does not have to start now?

552
00:47:47,660 --> 00:47:55,960
What is maybe expansion or new information, new projects programming that if we're starting new we could certainly start later in the year.

553
00:47:55,960 --> 00:48:01,720
And some of that is also new equipment that could potentially wait until later in the year.

554
00:48:02,240 --> 00:48:06,760
As we're going to get to, that includes $300,000 that would be reserves.

555
00:48:07,540 --> 00:48:10,280
So $100,000 from each of the three reserves.

556
00:48:10,500 --> 00:48:16,580
And the reason we approached it that way is that if we feel if it's serious enough that we're having to cut,

557
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:23,280
perhaps a million dollars out of the budget, that we may want to consider, do we fully fund the reserves and

558
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:29,760
what's the impact on operations if we continue to fully fund those and pull $300,000 to somewhere else.

559
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:36,260
Again, I think we feel that this is, you know, we're normally conservative.

560
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:41,340
This is like conservative plus plus in terms of, and you've seen some of that last time from,

561
00:48:41,340 --> 00:48:46,080
from Byron and you're going to weren't explaining a little bit about that in here where we are,

562
00:48:46,260 --> 00:48:50,320
you know, some things are holding flat where we honestly expect there will be some growth.

563
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:59,680
We're also showing decreases in a couple places where we think it may stay stable, but again, we're making sure that we are holding some of that back.

564
00:48:59,900 --> 00:49:12,580
So it's only 800,000 that's being programmed to be held, but I think we could comfortably say 750,000 to another million dollars that could have been generated in revenue if we weren't being as conservative as we are.

565
00:49:12,900 --> 00:49:15,220
Okay, that's fine, thank you, yeah, that's a couple.

566
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:19,000
So,

567
00:49:21,110 --> 00:49:26,930
again, part of the plan of this budget is to delay about $800,000 until April.

568
00:49:27,490 --> 00:49:32,030
We started talking about until January, but unfortunately, we're always three months behind

569
00:49:32,030 --> 00:49:33,270
on sales tax revenue.

570
00:49:33,610 --> 00:49:37,790
And that's really where we expect there could be the most volatility if it's going to happen.

571
00:49:38,430 --> 00:49:45,030
So holding $800,000 is about seven to seven and a half percent of the sales tax we receive.

572
00:49:45,030 --> 00:49:52,190
So we feel that's a pretty good buffer that even if things turn worse and anticipated that we should be able to buffer with that

573
00:49:52,750 --> 00:49:58,490
But again that we could certainly go deeper in delaying some other things if that's the preference of council

574
00:49:58,490 --> 00:49:59,750
What we show right now

575
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:28,120
Now is some of the athletic program improvements, and some of the needed facility updates would delay until April. That could be painting and carpeting in some places, some other things within the athletic program. That would delay some of this innovative equipment for police and fire. Again, that's, for example, the police digital forensic life. It's about $50,000, but we would delay that because it's new. And if they haven't had it, they can wait until April to start that.

576
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:32,420
And then again, there's two parts to the pedestrian ADA accessibility.

577
00:50:33,220 --> 00:50:36,540
One part is to do some actual work that's already been identified.

578
00:50:36,980 --> 00:50:42,680
And then the other part is a study of our facility so we would delay the study until April 1st.

579
00:50:42,740 --> 00:50:47,260
Again, we already talked about the holding a portion of those reserve fund investments.

580
00:50:47,900 --> 00:50:55,680
Some greenway care in maintenance. That's some new equipment in public works that's going to let them be more efficient with the work they do that could hold.

581
00:50:55,680 --> 00:51:00,640
and then, again, some other grounds and facility tools, primarily out of public works, our

582
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:05,960
Jeffrey, that your improvements and make us more efficient, but they could wait until

583
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:07,160
April if we needed to.

584
00:51:10,550 --> 00:51:10,890
Okay.

585
00:51:11,530 --> 00:51:12,170
Questions there?

586
00:51:13,270 --> 00:51:14,070
That's my word, Betty.

587
00:51:15,650 --> 00:51:22,930
So I understand the budget tool of not funding the reserves fully, because I understand we

588
00:51:22,930 --> 00:51:23,990
have to have a balanced budget.

589
00:51:25,930 --> 00:51:35,110
But I just can't stress enough that we can't make a habit of not funding the reserves.

590
00:51:35,850 --> 00:51:40,370
Every time we've done that, it's turned into a slippery slope and then we don't have

591
00:51:40,370 --> 00:51:41,330
money when we need it.

592
00:51:42,090 --> 00:51:52,050
So if we get okay with that, is are the reserves going to be the first thing that gets funded

593
00:51:52,050 --> 00:51:57,630
in April will we realize like when when would we pull the trigger and say oh we can put that

594
00:51:57,630 --> 00:52:03,110
300,000 back in. So our intent would be to come back to you once we have the second quarter sales

595
00:52:03,110 --> 00:52:07,270
tax numbers through December through the holidays, which is really one of the more telling periods

596
00:52:07,270 --> 00:52:12,110
of course for the year. So with soon as we had those in April we would we would analyze that of

597
00:52:12,110 --> 00:52:16,570
course and see where we're at and if we felt comfortable from a staff standpoint we would come

598
00:52:16,570 --> 00:52:21,590
to you in a meeting and share with you this is where we're at. You know we feel we are at least

599
00:52:21,590 --> 00:52:26,750
performing it where we projected so we feel comfortable recommending that we do the $800,000

600
00:52:26,750 --> 00:52:31,990
in investment that would include the $300 into the reserves and then about $500,000 worth

601
00:52:31,990 --> 00:52:35,330
of additional equipment and items in the budget.

602
00:52:36,230 --> 00:52:41,670
And I can't speak for everybody obviously but I would like that $300,000 to be first on

603
00:52:41,670 --> 00:52:48,830
the list of things like I think we have to get in a habit of paying ourselves first and so

604
00:52:48,830 --> 00:52:55,070
So I think that we should, like, I'm okay to do it as a budget exercise, but I'm not

605
00:52:55,070 --> 00:52:56,090
okay to do it in real life.

606
00:52:56,930 --> 00:52:59,910
So we can certainly make that the first priority to come back in.

607
00:53:00,230 --> 00:53:03,030
Well, I mean, don't do it on my account, but I'd be interested to hear what everybody else

608
00:53:03,030 --> 00:53:03,310
thinks.

609
00:53:04,230 --> 00:53:09,490
Well, I also do want to point out that these are items that will be funded in the recommended

610
00:53:09,490 --> 00:53:09,910
budget.

611
00:53:10,090 --> 00:53:11,990
We just won't necessarily put the trigger on.

612
00:53:12,270 --> 00:53:17,650
So it's not a situation where we, you know, would immediately try to fund something else

613
00:53:17,650 --> 00:53:18,790
with that $300,000.

614
00:53:18,910 --> 00:53:22,270
It's $300,000 that essentially just wouldn't be transferred.

615
00:53:22,870 --> 00:53:27,110
So the revenues ended up not coming in kind of where we anticipated.

616
00:53:27,950 --> 00:53:30,630
That's where that $800,000 kind of played into.

617
00:53:30,950 --> 00:53:32,550
No, the manager's going to go into a slide.

618
00:53:32,630 --> 00:53:34,210
If we see revenues actually increased,

619
00:53:34,770 --> 00:53:37,830
with a little bit more kind of aggressive approach,

620
00:53:38,290 --> 00:53:42,110
then where traditional conservative method has been

621
00:53:42,110 --> 00:53:43,230
in this particular year.

622
00:53:43,630 --> 00:53:46,230
But this is actually, it will be in the budget.

623
00:53:46,230 --> 00:53:48,970
It's just not the full amount that we will transfer in this issue.

624
00:53:49,210 --> 00:53:57,350
Right, and I definitely understand that and what I'm saying is that by the end of the

625
00:53:57,350 --> 00:54:02,450
year, I want to be sure that we've transferred, that that's been transferred.

626
00:54:03,830 --> 00:54:12,770
So I hope things go better than we think they will, but I don't want to see us get, we've

627
00:54:12,770 --> 00:54:14,090
done so well with reserves.

628
00:54:14,090 --> 00:54:19,570
And I don't want to see us getting into a situation where we treat that money as optional.

629
00:54:22,430 --> 00:54:23,950
I have a follow-up question.

630
00:54:25,790 --> 00:54:36,050
I'm assuming we would be notified if it were to occur that we did not fund those reserves?

631
00:54:36,310 --> 00:54:36,650
Absolutely.

632
00:54:37,270 --> 00:54:37,390
Okay.

633
00:54:37,630 --> 00:54:41,250
There's a discussion coming in April with an update, whatever it is.

634
00:54:41,590 --> 00:54:44,950
It could be that things that were worse than we expected.

635
00:54:44,950 --> 00:54:47,470
that we may need to hold a portion of that 800

636
00:54:48,090 --> 00:54:49,210
because we're concerned.

637
00:54:49,610 --> 00:54:53,070
It may be that, hey, we're right where we budgeted for,

638
00:54:53,370 --> 00:54:55,750
still conservative, not where we've been in the past,

639
00:54:55,910 --> 00:54:57,310
but we already budgeted for it,

640
00:54:57,550 --> 00:54:59,850
so you would have to, of course, agree to that click.

641
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:29,980
And then we would just say go ahead and spend that, or we could be in a situation where we've been more conservative than ultimately we needed to be, and there could be additional revenues. If sales tax doesn't do what we've predicted and it does a little bit better, if utilities do a little bit better, there could be additional revenues there. And that's what the next slide is about, is that we could ask you to consider, if we've done better than anticipated, you could consider additional appropriations to the budget, and we could amend it at that point.

642
00:55:29,980 --> 00:55:36,340
in April. So again, some of the things that we would look for, there's about $600,000

643
00:55:36,340 --> 00:55:41,680
here. One is parks and grounds enhancements, particularly with some facilities and green

644
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:48,680
ways that we just didn't fit into the $62 million budget. Some additional security replacement

645
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:54,340
items that we are holding off on. Again, one of the positions that's been requested is

646
00:55:54,340 --> 00:55:59,640
a data analyst position in the IT department that would really serve other departments as

647
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:03,840
well because of how much data we work and may also potentially support our efforts to

648
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:09,520
expand the use of data and our dashboards. So we would ask you to consider adding that

649
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:16,000
position in April if there were necessary funds for that. Again, at that point, you wouldn't

650
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:21,640
have to fund the full year of it, but you would have to full fund it in 27. So that would be

651
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:29,180
an opportunity. There's also from the community viewpoint, the opportunity to do some expansion

652
00:56:29,180 --> 00:56:35,940
of the mobile app that is not currently funded, initialize the comprehensive public art

653
00:56:35,940 --> 00:56:40,260
plan development that is currently not funded in the original monies.

654
00:56:40,900 --> 00:56:46,860
And then in operational, excuse me, in sustainability, the streetscape and landscaping master plan,

655
00:56:47,100 --> 00:56:48,720
that is something we would like to do.

656
00:56:48,860 --> 00:56:53,240
But again, that's a new initiative, so we're sort of holding on some of the new initiatives.

657
00:56:53,860 --> 00:56:58,720
And then under operational excellence, there is some additional grounds in streets equipment

658
00:56:58,720 --> 00:57:04,240
replacement or new equipment requests that we have not funded in the original budget.

659
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:08,760
And then there's also a request for some budgeting and long range planning software

660
00:57:09,180 --> 00:57:12,880
that would provide us some efficiencies, but we're making it now.

661
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:17,200
It would be better if we had it, but we're not going to ask for it in the original budget.

662
00:57:17,300 --> 00:57:21,500
It would be something we would actually consider if we were ahead of the curve on what we budgeted

663
00:57:21,500 --> 00:57:22,100
for revenues.

664
00:57:25,300 --> 00:57:33,030
So actually, on the last slide, about the 800, those last two bullets, about the sustainability

665
00:57:33,030 --> 00:57:38,430
environment, greenway care, maintenance, grounds of facility tools, I mean, that's a year-round

666
00:57:38,430 --> 00:57:44,450
usage, but we really start working on that stuff like February, March. So I don't know if there's

667
00:57:44,450 --> 00:57:50,610
thoughts of having public works maybe request getting that equipment in place earlier so we could be

668
00:57:50,610 --> 00:57:55,590
more efficient as we start the year of taking care of everything, but I don't want to

669
00:57:55,590 --> 00:57:56,610
delay reserves.

670
00:57:56,990 --> 00:58:01,210
So, it's just the timing of maintaining all that.

671
00:58:01,750 --> 00:58:05,350
It's extended to, you know, make them more efficient, have some different better equipment.

672
00:58:05,850 --> 00:58:10,630
So, of course, I'd like to do all that right now, but again, trying to do that earlier than

673
00:58:10,630 --> 00:58:15,250
April, I think I would caution against because if we were going to do that, I think with

674
00:58:15,250 --> 00:58:17,950
the way we're recommending this budget, it would need to be in the budget.

675
00:58:17,950 --> 00:58:22,430
I mean, particularly if there's consensus around the idea that the reserve should get funded

676
00:58:22,430 --> 00:58:28,650
first, when this money comes, that would still be down on my potentially passed, even

677
00:58:28,650 --> 00:58:30,470
the other things that are indicated here.

678
00:58:30,730 --> 00:58:32,870
And we need the comfort level of having the data in April.

679
00:58:33,270 --> 00:58:35,950
Yes, I think that's the main thing that this is all about.

680
00:58:36,210 --> 00:58:38,590
I think that's the best approach for us with the uncertainty.

681
00:58:39,370 --> 00:58:39,650
Thank you.

682
00:58:40,310 --> 00:58:40,910
Thank you.

683
00:58:42,290 --> 00:58:45,010
Yeah, I have a question on this slide.

684
00:58:45,270 --> 00:58:46,110
No, not that slide.

685
00:58:46,250 --> 00:58:46,730
The next one.

686
00:58:47,950 --> 00:58:58,830
So where, what triggered this bullet or need for improving street scape in landscaping master plan?

687
00:58:59,190 --> 00:59:03,250
I don't recall seeing that in the sustainability master plan.

688
00:59:03,790 --> 00:59:07,190
It's not a part of the sustainability master plan.

689
00:59:07,410 --> 00:59:10,830
It relates to sustainability. That's where it fit best in these categories.

690
00:59:11,470 --> 00:59:15,650
That is sort of a collaborative request from planning and engineering.

691
00:59:16,370 --> 00:59:23,070
They requested it two years in a row now, and just it has a solid price tag to it, so we haven't gotten to it.

692
00:59:23,290 --> 00:59:29,750
Again, it's something we would like to do, but it's not something we're doing right now, and we can go without it if we have to.

693
00:59:30,970 --> 00:59:38,610
Ideally, we would have it, and it would make us more consistent as we continue to do more work with betterments on NC DOT projects and other things.

694
00:59:39,310 --> 00:59:42,070
But again, it's over $200,000.

695
00:59:42,070 --> 00:59:52,330
Okay, but it doesn't sound like it's really a sustainability environment initiative it's relative to the environment to an extent

696
00:59:52,330 --> 00:59:57,290
I mean it's it probably fits there as much as anywhere else. Okay

697
01:00:01,010 --> 01:00:08,590
So on these potential additional appropriations, again, that would also come before us. Absolutely.

698
01:00:09,250 --> 01:00:27,630
You would have to amend your budget to add these. Yeah. Yes. So I think I would, when the time comes, I would want it, and you might say this for other bullets on here too, but the mobile app outreach and awareness enhancements, I think I want to, I don't think.

699
01:00:27,630 --> 01:00:34,530
I want to know how some kind of history on the app and how it's being used, is it,

700
01:00:37,450 --> 01:00:46,310
because I will tell you, I'm not, I don't use it a lot, so I'm concerned about spending money on

701
01:00:46,310 --> 01:00:50,750
something that's not bringing value, and maybe that's just me, and that's why I want to understand

702
01:00:50,750 --> 01:00:56,510
And how it's being used, what the date you've collected on that can tell us.

703
01:00:56,710 --> 01:01:04,430
And if it is, we need to enhance it to make it more usable, that's fine.

704
01:01:04,650 --> 01:01:09,250
I need to know all that before we make the next step.

705
01:01:09,770 --> 01:01:10,510
I'm sorry to interrupt you.

706
01:01:10,810 --> 01:01:13,850
I think this would almost be like a mini budget request.

707
01:01:14,450 --> 01:01:17,030
So I think we would be evaluating where we're at.

708
01:01:17,030 --> 01:01:21,790
We would see what the first quarter numbers were, and then perhaps in March, we might come

709
01:01:21,790 --> 01:01:25,830
to you with more description of this and explanation of this so you knew where we were at.

710
01:01:26,210 --> 01:01:30,110
And then once we have the numbers, if you were willing to, we could go then.

711
01:01:30,570 --> 01:01:35,410
Because I don't want to wait too long to introduce it to you and have to go through two or three

712
01:01:35,410 --> 01:01:39,230
meetings and then we're already in June and it may make it challenging to actually spend

713
01:01:39,230 --> 01:01:40,610
the money if you were to add it.

714
01:01:41,030 --> 01:01:42,410
So again, none of this you have to do.

715
01:01:42,410 --> 01:01:46,910
this is just if we really have been way too conservative and we've got additional revenues,

716
01:01:47,230 --> 01:01:50,830
you could look at any or all of this and we would certainly bring it to you in advance

717
01:01:50,830 --> 01:01:53,290
to give you again really a mini budget presentation.

718
01:01:53,870 --> 01:01:54,110
Okay.

719
01:01:54,410 --> 01:01:54,550
Good.

720
01:01:55,050 --> 01:01:55,730
Go ahead.

721
01:01:55,810 --> 01:01:56,070
No, no.

722
01:01:56,210 --> 01:01:56,410
Go ahead.

723
01:01:56,630 --> 01:01:57,990
You might answer my next question.

724
01:01:58,210 --> 01:01:59,470
Well, I don't know if I will.

725
01:01:59,570 --> 01:02:05,330
All I was going to say specifically about the app, so this particular initiative is the gamification

726
01:02:05,330 --> 01:02:11,330
portion of the app in order to help try and drive traffic to the app, try and drive engagement.

727
01:02:11,330 --> 01:02:21,090
So the whole point of trying to do this particular one is to actually make sure that we do have some engagement on the app that it's not just going unused throughout the entire existence.

728
01:02:21,390 --> 01:02:27,530
Okay, okay, because I get, you know, just to kind of, I just don't want to throw good money after bad.

729
01:02:28,310 --> 01:02:41,310
You have to show me that there's, there's some value out there now and that we're going to enhance that value to the citizens before I would quite frankly do almost anything.

730
01:02:41,310 --> 01:02:56,130
So okay, the other thing I also wanted to point out as well is that prior to us bringing back anything there will be at least three financial reports that we will provide for you all in FY26 prior to you making a decision.

731
01:02:56,490 --> 01:03:09,170
And we'll make sure in each of those that we bring back some sort of progress on the delay as well as the additional appropriation so you all will have plenty of information to be able to help make a decision in either side.

732
01:03:11,310 --> 01:03:19,890
Yeah, so Councilmember Johnson got me thinking about that mobile app and spending more money on it

733
01:03:19,890 --> 01:03:27,470
I mean the app we have now is worse than the one we had before but it sounds like

734
01:03:29,370 --> 01:03:38,930
this item is you said gamification so it's just to add gamification to people go

735
01:03:38,930 --> 01:03:42,930
to the app rather than improving the app?

736
01:03:44,050 --> 01:03:47,210
So I would imagine there would be some level of improvement

737
01:03:47,210 --> 01:03:48,550
that would also exist in there.

738
01:03:48,890 --> 01:03:52,750
And I did to speak for Rick in that particular scenario.

739
01:03:52,970 --> 01:03:55,170
So it's definitely something that we can bring back to you

740
01:03:55,170 --> 01:03:58,030
while in terms of exactly what that particular initiative would

741
01:03:58,030 --> 01:04:02,330
do, what those points of change would be within the app

742
01:04:02,330 --> 01:04:05,710
as well as what the technical specs of the change would be.

743
01:04:05,890 --> 01:04:08,330
So that you all have the ability to understand exactly

744
01:04:08,330 --> 01:04:14,130
What is going to happen? Yeah, I mean, I'll say this like I used to use the previous app

745
01:04:14,130 --> 01:04:19,370
I don't use this one at all so if they're gonna spend any money on it

746
01:04:19,370 --> 01:04:26,550
If it they need to improve it if they're just gonna add some game to make it pseudo fun

747
01:04:26,550 --> 01:04:28,390
That's a waste of money

748
01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:35,880
I'm like we need to bring back a good update on that perhaps in the spring

749
01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:39,960
I mean before we talk about spending any money on it, yeah, we'll absolutely do that.

750
01:04:40,260 --> 01:04:41,200
Thank you.

751
01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:42,540
All right.

752
01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:43,960
Okay.

753
01:04:44,620 --> 01:04:48,480
So, the next one, I want to give you some specific examples, you know, we've talked

754
01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:53,620
a little bit in generalities and around the priorities, but this is some specific examples

755
01:04:53,620 --> 01:04:58,460
based on what our conversations have been, this relates to what the council is interested

756
01:04:58,460 --> 01:04:59,980
in, what the community is interested in.

757
01:05:00,520 --> 01:05:29,160
So, highlights from what is funded, 9-1-1 dispatching increases. So, our partnership with Carey, those costs continue to increase. So, we are funding those. And that's formulaic. That's not they thought they should charge us more. That's just what it costs to do the work. They have a formula that relates to, and it's a national government. That's not something that Carey created. So, we understand what that is. Again, the capital reserves are funded. There is economic development support. We purge you all very clearly.

758
01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:33,780
that you're I believe pleased with where we've gotten to but there's a lot more to do so there is

759
01:05:33,780 --> 01:05:39,880
additional support for Tiffany and Amelia in there. This does include purchasing two fire engines

760
01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:46,080
and a water rescue boat to upgrade the boat they currently have. You may ask why a water rescue boat

761
01:05:46,080 --> 01:05:52,800
and Morrisville but A, it went to respond to Haleen. It is also used on like Crabtree here like Jordan

762
01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:58,680
around here. We're part of a group with Apex and in some extent with Carey so we do get use of that

763
01:05:58,680 --> 01:06:03,680
and the one they have is really undersized and not fit to do some of the work they do.

764
01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:07,560
And again, all of that fire engines and the rescue boat is going to be funded

765
01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:09,180
out of the public safety reserve.

766
01:06:10,020 --> 01:06:14,100
We are recommending full COLA and merit as we have in the past.

767
01:06:14,700 --> 01:06:19,400
We are asking for four full-time positions and two part-time positions.

768
01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:24,080
So for the four full-time positions, two of those do not require full funding.

769
01:06:24,080 --> 01:06:33,500
So, we already alluded to or spoke of the assistant fire marshal and that there is part time money that would support that along with increasing fees in the fire marshal's office.

770
01:06:34,140 --> 01:06:38,480
The second position would be the accounting generalist that we spoke about earlier this spring.

771
01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:47,920
Again, with the reorganization and the combination of the two departments, there is money left over from what we were paying for prior positions.

772
01:06:48,380 --> 01:06:52,780
So, it is about a $10,000 need and that accounting generalist would be paid for.

773
01:06:52,780 --> 01:06:59,520
The third position is the LAP position in communications, the language access plan that

774
01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:03,680
we convert what has been a new fellow position into a full-time position.

775
01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:06,840
We have seen extraordinary results with that.

776
01:07:07,260 --> 01:07:12,920
We've seen that in the community in terms of communication and outreach and being able

777
01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:18,360
to, I believe, reach more people than we have in the past and find more people that are willing

778
01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:19,920
to try to communicate with us.

779
01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:26,240
you may have heard me say when we went into that language access program with UNC, you know,

780
01:07:26,300 --> 01:07:30,820
the light that came on for me was I knew we had residents that struggled to communicate with us

781
01:07:30,820 --> 01:07:34,940
because of language barriers. I didn't realize we had a segment of the population that didn't even

782
01:07:34,940 --> 01:07:39,580
try. So I think we're reaching some of those folks by being proactive putting more information out

783
01:07:39,580 --> 01:07:46,360
in five different languages. So feel strongly that that position is needed to continue that good work

784
01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:51,360
And then the fourth position is an HR position that will focus on recruitment and retention.

785
01:07:52,140 --> 01:07:55,780
So we have previously done that a little more scattered across the departments.

786
01:07:56,440 --> 01:07:59,440
So this would bring that back into the HR department.

787
01:07:59,780 --> 01:08:02,600
It would be more consistent, it would be better managed.

788
01:08:03,060 --> 01:08:10,700
It would be a person that specializes in that work and would help us to do a better job, both recruiting and retaining employees.

789
01:08:11,220 --> 01:08:16,340
And then the two part time staff positions are the two community officers that we mentioned in the police department.

790
01:08:16,340 --> 01:08:23,780
Department. We are funding Gen. V.I. to continue that work in the IT Department. We are also

791
01:08:23,780 --> 01:08:29,460
funding IT hardware and security enhancements. That includes a variety of things. Laptop

792
01:08:29,460 --> 01:08:36,560
replacement includes also security enhancements around our network and other things that will

793
01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:43,160
help to keep us safe and also technology-technologically sound. Again, language access continuation

794
01:08:43,160 --> 01:08:47,940
relation related to the position, we're adding additional park Wi-Fi and court sensors

795
01:08:47,940 --> 01:08:52,460
so we can be more proactive in letting our residents and our community members and visitors

796
01:08:52,460 --> 01:08:56,200
know what's available, what's not, what are wait times, that sort of thing.

797
01:08:56,940 --> 01:09:02,200
This does fund pedestrian accessibility so that we ensure that we continue to be in compliance

798
01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:03,480
with ADA requirements.

799
01:09:04,160 --> 01:09:09,060
It does have funding for a perimeter park small area planning and we've heard you and

800
01:09:09,060 --> 01:09:11,300
the feedback there and we'll continue to look at that.

801
01:09:11,300 --> 01:09:14,260
This funds the police, digital forensics.

802
01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:17,160
It also funds the parks and rec master plan again.

803
01:09:17,300 --> 01:09:23,620
That's coming out of not the general revenues but out of money we received in the bond premium.

804
01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:27,640
And then it will include the senior center lease expansion.

805
01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:35,440
So we've added money into that line to make sure that we can add a little about double our senior center lease costs.

806
01:09:36,180 --> 01:09:38,040
And we did get those leases back this week.

807
01:09:38,040 --> 01:09:41,100
so we'll be coming back to share that information with you as well.

808
01:09:41,720 --> 01:09:45,560
And then we will need to identify funding for the upfit there,

809
01:09:45,840 --> 01:09:50,420
but I think we have a plan that will come back to share with you when that's an appropriate time to do that.

810
01:09:51,260 --> 01:09:56,620
So the things that are unfunded, and you'll notice if they have a star there around that could be funded list in April,

811
01:09:56,760 --> 01:09:59,880
if we were to be ahead of where we expect the budgets.

812
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:29,660
CIP software for greater efficiency, the data analyst position, MAFC, tennis controlled entry. So we are funding controlled entry for the practice pitches at Church Street Southern Lot, particularly the ones that are actually turf to protect them, not that they can't be used, but that we want to control to use to make sure that we know that the people are using them are educated on what it is, you know, don't take cleats in there, some of those kind of things. And we also manage the use, so it's not just, you know, whoever gets there,

813
01:10:29,660 --> 01:10:32,600
the earliest that day gets before the day, we're going to manage that as well.

814
01:10:33,540 --> 01:10:39,120
A similar request is made for the tennis courts at the back of M.A.F.C., we're going to

815
01:10:39,120 --> 01:10:42,400
push that till the following year to come up with that money.

816
01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:44,600
Again, we...

817
01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:47,460
So at the tennis courts, right now, you can park in the back and just walk on.

818
01:10:47,960 --> 01:10:51,080
In the past, you used to have to go through the facility to get out there, but now you

819
01:10:51,080 --> 01:10:52,320
can just come in and walk on.

820
01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:55,160
So it's taken away some of the control we have of that.

821
01:10:55,460 --> 01:10:58,980
And again, because they're busy and because people like to try to play tennis and sometimes

822
01:10:58,980 --> 01:11:03,920
pickle ball there, we want to control that access just to avoid conflict and concern

823
01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:07,180
and to better ensure that we can show when they're available and when they're not available.

824
01:11:07,500 --> 01:11:12,720
And they're never locked. Not right now. No, I know that. Yeah. I can hear it.

825
01:11:12,820 --> 01:11:18,460
You can hear it when it's closed. Somebody's out there playing. Yeah, I've been

826
01:11:21,320 --> 01:11:23,420
So let me

827
01:11:26,940 --> 01:11:32,540
just go through this. Okay, but I just run through that list and we'll stay on this slide. We've already talked about the gamification.

828
01:11:33,280 --> 01:11:40,600
Park signage. We're going to hold off on that because we are looking at improving the signage across the town, particularly with the dog park coming.

829
01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:48,180
So that may fall under what we're doing with wayfinding parks and grounds enhancements again. That's something that could potentially be added.

830
01:11:48,180 --> 01:12:02,340
the public art plan could be added. The additional public works equipment and then that street scape and landscaping master plan could be added if you chose to if we had the resources and you were confident in that I have to be honest. I have no clue.

831
01:12:07,040 --> 01:12:16,860
So I have three things, this generative AI, what is that specifically, how is that

832
01:12:16,860 --> 01:12:22,820
going to be used to help our residents, or is it just on there to sound cool?

833
01:12:24,100 --> 01:12:25,560
It's not on there to sound cool.

834
01:12:26,140 --> 01:12:30,360
But I mean, just sticking it on there doesn't mean anything.

835
01:12:30,360 --> 01:12:32,960
What is it going to do for us?

836
01:12:33,200 --> 01:12:38,520
So it's going to assist the IT Department in developing a genitive AI that links into

837
01:12:38,520 --> 01:12:44,000
town documents and resources that can be accessed through the website because if you've tried

838
01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:48,100
to use our current website in the search engine, you probably have the same result I have,

839
01:12:48,200 --> 01:12:49,360
which is frustration.

840
01:12:50,020 --> 01:12:51,340
So that's going to be improved.

841
01:12:51,680 --> 01:12:56,380
So again, it's not just the ability to search the website, but it's the ability to access

842
01:12:56,380 --> 01:12:58,980
public records within all of our different domains.

843
01:12:58,980 --> 01:13:02,400
And so that will help reduce potentially public records who

844
01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:03,420
press to some extent.

845
01:13:03,460 --> 01:13:06,240
It makes us more transparent and be able to find things

846
01:13:06,240 --> 01:13:09,680
whether that's meeting minutes or proclamations or whatever

847
01:13:09,680 --> 01:13:12,260
may have been done that can be a struggle right now.

848
01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:15,440
And then the other aspect of that is we're also working

849
01:13:15,440 --> 01:13:19,840
on gendered AI for staff that is similar to but not the same

850
01:13:19,840 --> 01:13:21,840
as what's on the website because of course there's things

851
01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:24,280
we have that staff can access that we respectfully

852
01:13:24,280 --> 01:13:27,420
don't want the public to aspect in some cases and maybe

853
01:13:27,420 --> 01:13:30,540
working documents, they may be things that are not public records.

854
01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:36,020
So we're working on that now, and that, again, creates a lot of efficiency for our staff.

855
01:13:36,440 --> 01:13:41,960
We started testing the tool right now, and it's amazing what it can do to save time on

856
01:13:41,960 --> 01:13:46,300
searching things and finding things, and even making some recommendations around, you know,

857
01:13:46,360 --> 01:13:48,800
I want to say this, and it gives you that draft.

858
01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:54,280
I mean, it's similar to ChatGTTP, GPT, sorry, in a sense, but it's all about art content.

859
01:13:54,280 --> 01:13:58,360
But that's already been funded, you've already got that part.

860
01:13:58,640 --> 01:14:02,620
Well, we have the start of that, but this is to continue to evolve that and build it out.

861
01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:09,620
Okay. So then my second question, the language access person.

862
01:14:11,590 --> 01:14:22,550
So we're making that a permanent position, but maybe I'm naive, but it would seem to me

863
01:14:22,550 --> 01:14:32,670
that at some point we would no longer need that position because everything would have

864
01:14:32,670 --> 01:14:48,290
been interpreted and planned out for and like she evaluated apps and tools for translations to

865
01:14:48,290 --> 01:14:53,710
be used, so will this fade away eventually?

866
01:14:54,270 --> 01:14:55,090
I don't think it will.

867
01:14:55,350 --> 01:14:58,710
I think that your correct, some of that initial work is going to get completed.

868
01:14:59,210 --> 01:14:59,970
You know, there's always going to...

869
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:29,320
There will be additional things to, you know, to translate to work with the community on. So I think it is part of finishing out the initial part of that work. But there's also an opportunity there to continue to enhance our ongoing community engagement. Because, you know, we have people in comms that do certain things, but we don't have someone that's almost strictly focused on what's continued to look for ways to engage the community, to share information, to seek information. So I do think there would be consistent work over time in that position.

870
01:15:29,320 --> 01:15:32,000
Okay, that would be worth offspending.

871
01:15:32,400 --> 01:15:35,060
Okay, and then lastly, I just wanted to add,

872
01:15:35,280 --> 01:15:39,720
because Mayor Colle made a good point on the perimeter part,

873
01:15:40,220 --> 01:15:42,280
is that we don't own that property.

874
01:15:42,660 --> 01:15:47,940
So why would we be spending $150,000 to fund a plan

875
01:15:47,940 --> 01:15:51,480
for the people that own that property?

876
01:15:52,020 --> 01:15:54,480
I mean, that should be something that they do,

877
01:15:54,480 --> 01:15:58,500
So if they want to get tenants.

878
01:15:59,740 --> 01:16:05,820
So I agree to some extent with that, I think we also have an obligation to identify potential

879
01:16:05,820 --> 01:16:06,280
alternatives.

880
01:16:06,280 --> 01:16:12,320
Again, part of that is, what do we do with our UDO that makes us more friendly for what

881
01:16:12,320 --> 01:16:13,300
they might do there?

882
01:16:13,800 --> 01:16:18,680
So I agree, it's not our job to individually rescue them, but we've met with them on a couple

883
01:16:18,680 --> 01:16:19,560
of different occasions.

884
01:16:20,220 --> 01:16:26,040
We've shared with them that, you know, and we have some obligation in the sense that that really impacts our tax base.

885
01:16:26,480 --> 01:16:32,340
And so what we don't want to do is let that disappear because, you know, we just decided to let it wait and see what happened.

886
01:16:32,900 --> 01:16:36,320
It is, it is a significant component of what goes on in the community.

887
01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:37,440
And it's not just perimeter park.

888
01:16:37,620 --> 01:16:40,460
Again, I think we call it the perimeter park small area plan.

889
01:16:40,820 --> 01:16:47,720
But the results of that and the things that we might change could impact other areas of town that may be facing issues with office occupancy

890
01:16:47,720 --> 01:16:50,640
and conversion to other uses and things like that.

891
01:16:50,820 --> 01:16:53,560
So yes, Michelle, are you going to save me again?

892
01:17:01,760 --> 01:17:08,800
If I could, I would like to add, and I think kind of maybe what Tiffany and I have in our heads

893
01:17:08,800 --> 01:17:13,480
is a little different than what I'm hearing from some of the council members.

894
01:17:13,880 --> 01:17:15,940
So I want to make sure we're on the same page.

895
01:17:16,620 --> 01:17:23,700
We're looking at about a 220 acre area, a lot of it, great infrastructure, great buildings,

896
01:17:23,700 --> 01:17:28,140
a lot of those buildings aren't readily adaptable to other uses.

897
01:17:28,960 --> 01:17:34,080
So I think part of this is we're thinking beyond just recruiting tenants for existing buildings.

898
01:17:34,660 --> 01:17:39,360
We're thinking that a part of this area might be areas where we're talking about

899
01:17:39,360 --> 01:17:43,140
needing true redevelopment to infuse it with something else.

900
01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:48,360
So and we need to talk with the property owner and engage them in all that needs to occur.

901
01:17:48,600 --> 01:17:51,240
But we've done small area plans for McCrimmon.

902
01:17:51,240 --> 01:17:57,020
we've done them for TOD. We don't own those areas, but we're thinking beyond just getting tenants and buildings.

903
01:17:57,340 --> 01:18:04,620
We're thinking some of these buildings, you know, opening it up and thinking about tearing down the starting completely fresh in some areas.

904
01:18:05,100 --> 01:18:08,720
And what's the vision for that and what would that look like and what type of uses.

905
01:18:09,400 --> 01:18:17,700
So I just wanted to make sure I wasn't sure if we were thinking the same thing there. So just wanted to clarify that.

906
01:18:17,700 --> 01:18:32,130
Thank you Michelle, I think yours is down you're good, it's Raoul, Mayor Farley, and then we'll get this.

907
01:18:34,070 --> 01:18:36,770
No, I think I just put mine up, I'm last.

908
01:18:38,790 --> 01:18:43,810
With the generative AI, the question I have is, I know that we've been working at this

909
01:18:43,810 --> 01:18:44,770
new chatbot.

910
01:18:44,930 --> 01:18:48,270
We're going to be willing out with our website event.

911
01:18:48,850 --> 01:18:53,910
Would there be the potential eventually for, like what they call, years ago, well, a

912
01:18:53,910 --> 01:18:58,930
few years ago, we talked about a 3-1-1 call center, but we couldn't do it because of the

913
01:18:58,930 --> 01:18:59,230
cost.

914
01:18:59,850 --> 01:19:00,430
And Kerry did it.

915
01:19:00,530 --> 01:19:04,870
But now, you can enable 3-1-1 with these kinds of AI technologies.

916
01:19:04,870 --> 01:19:06,690
Jesus, that's something down the road of potential.

917
01:19:07,490 --> 01:19:09,090
You know, so, you know, someone want to know,

918
01:19:09,170 --> 01:19:10,370
what is my yard risk?

919
01:19:10,630 --> 01:19:12,710
Get picked up, they could just, you know,

920
01:19:12,770 --> 01:19:14,510
come in and ask that, you know, it ends.

921
01:19:14,530 --> 01:19:15,530
Well, I think we're honestly hoping

922
01:19:15,530 --> 01:19:17,630
that this genitive AI will do that.

923
01:19:17,870 --> 01:19:20,350
As long as we have that information available

924
01:19:20,350 --> 01:19:23,930
to the tool, you know, it can, we can help it learn.

925
01:19:23,930 --> 01:19:25,830
And that's what Rick has shared with someone

926
01:19:25,830 --> 01:19:27,710
because I am not the expert.

927
01:19:28,050 --> 01:19:29,110
That's why we have Rick, right?

928
01:19:29,610 --> 01:19:31,570
But he's helping me learn and understand.

929
01:19:31,570 --> 01:19:34,010
And part of that is that the machine learns

930
01:19:34,010 --> 01:19:38,570
the more it does and the more it finds things and understands you know how things go so certainly over

931
01:19:38,570 --> 01:19:44,270
time I think it becomes an informal 3-1-1 for us rather than standing up you know with facility

932
01:19:44,270 --> 01:19:49,730
that I honestly don't think we have the volume or the funds to do right now. I think VIT can come

933
01:19:49,730 --> 01:19:53,730
eventually I think maybe a presentation or a work session where they can come and talk about

934
01:19:53,730 --> 01:19:58,090
what is the benefit to staff what is the benefit to the residents that being really important.

935
01:19:58,090 --> 01:19:59,970
Yeah, I think they have more work to do.

936
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:29,680
So before that would be meaningful, but absolutely, we'll continue to provide updates. And the final question as a manager, what I'm hearing you say is that you are seeing already just in the initial use of an increasing productivity. Yes, that we're reducing the amount of times you have to write an email where staff can just go into that and advance it for you or gives you ideas of what you're going to talk about if you're going to go talk to the department, which then frees them up to do other things, other challenges, you give them. It helped me send you an email last week. Yeah. Yeah.

937
01:20:31,600 --> 01:20:34,420
Yes, it's an incredibly powerful tool.

938
01:20:34,840 --> 01:20:38,340
We've also talked a little bit about the potential danger with that,

939
01:20:38,440 --> 01:20:42,580
but some of that danger diminishes when it's our own generative AI,

940
01:20:42,740 --> 01:20:45,020
because you're not finding crazy things from the web.

941
01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:47,560
I mean, you still could, because it does search the web,

942
01:20:47,840 --> 01:20:50,740
but you're finding more information that comes from a more skill source,

943
01:20:50,740 --> 01:20:53,600
which makes it easier and more trustworthy.

944
01:20:55,140 --> 01:20:55,480
Also?

945
01:20:55,880 --> 01:20:56,220
Yeah, that.

946
01:20:56,480 --> 01:20:56,680
Thank you.

947
01:20:56,680 --> 01:21:14,580
So coming back to the controlled entry for tennis or any of our fields, I'm I value more openness and making it easier because I thought it was kind of burdensome to have to go through the facility to go play tennis in the past.

948
01:21:14,820 --> 01:21:21,220
It won't necessarily be going through the facility. It may be that you have a swipe that can be programmed to give you access.

949
01:21:21,220 --> 01:21:27,020
us if you remember or that sort of thing or again if you just are a user so it doesn't

950
01:21:27,020 --> 01:21:30,880
necessarily mean having to go back through and check in it just means it's trying to

951
01:21:30,880 --> 01:21:35,780
protect that a little bit to people that you know have priority to use it perhaps or

952
01:21:35,780 --> 01:21:39,840
you know I've made plans to use it but it's not going to be a go back into the lobby it's

953
01:21:39,840 --> 01:21:40,580
all technology.

954
01:21:40,940 --> 01:21:44,680
Tom Manager can I just jump in and just add something that's really a little bit of a twist

955
01:21:44,680 --> 01:21:49,660
on this particular sensor group it's also going to allow people which I think is a really

956
01:21:49,660 --> 01:21:53,640
cool thing, it's going to allow people to request additional players too.

957
01:21:54,280 --> 01:22:00,060
So it's optimizing the use and the space and the availability as well as knowing when

958
01:22:00,060 --> 01:22:01,860
the courts available and when it's not available.

959
01:22:02,220 --> 01:22:06,220
So it's really smart tech and really kind of moving ahead of the pack here.

960
01:22:06,460 --> 01:22:11,380
So just wanted to add that little tidbit, that nice feature that's going to also come with

961
01:22:11,380 --> 01:22:13,740
knowing if the courts available it is a whole or not.

962
01:22:14,220 --> 01:22:15,400
It's going to bring people together.

963
01:22:15,400 --> 01:22:21,060
there. Thank you. I like that and I'm not sure why it's just MFC then and not also

964
01:22:21,600 --> 01:22:27,020
Marshall Community Park and Church Street where we have facilities also because we have

965
01:22:27,020 --> 01:22:31,200
to start somewhere. Isn't it because it's a separate club? People buy a membership

966
01:22:31,200 --> 01:22:38,040
to play the MFC so you don't want them using it without. There's a piece of that but again

967
01:22:38,040 --> 01:22:44,320
it's we're going to implement this more over time but it's not practical to try to do

968
01:22:44,320 --> 01:22:46,320
do it all at once, particularly given this budget.

969
01:22:47,540 --> 01:22:51,820
So the Southern Lot to protect those practice pitches is our initial priority because

970
01:22:51,820 --> 01:22:55,620
the damage there is what we're concerned about with people that don't, you know, may

971
01:22:55,620 --> 01:23:00,520
not, you know, try to use it as a batting cage, which they can do, but not in the same way

972
01:23:00,520 --> 01:23:06,080
they use a true batting cage because you can really damage the ground in that practice

973
01:23:06,080 --> 01:23:06,420
pitch.

974
01:23:07,140 --> 01:23:10,460
So I guess the 10th courts have generally been open to everybody.

975
01:23:10,860 --> 01:23:13,180
Not just our residents and stuff.

976
01:23:13,180 --> 01:23:22,560
So I was wondering why we haven't already started this maybe at the baseball fields, where we have just the locks and only the teams that are allowed to be there are there.

977
01:23:22,880 --> 01:23:28,420
That might be a good test case because our team has identified the southern lot as a first priority.

978
01:23:28,860 --> 01:23:37,180
Okay. Yeah. There and then make it happen. Have fun. But those are the unfunded ones for now. Yes.

979
01:23:37,880 --> 01:23:42,100
Okay. I like embracing technology. I just want to make sure that we're not hindering access.

980
01:23:49,100 --> 01:23:59,320
Now my mic is on, so a while back, Council Member Fender mentioned the new position for the

981
01:23:59,320 --> 01:24:10,320
language access individual. And I, too, feel like a lot of the work was a project and the

982
01:24:10,320 --> 01:24:15,120
translations and exploration and the gap analysis,

983
01:24:15,600 --> 01:24:22,240
those were related to a project that has been completed

984
01:24:22,240 --> 01:24:24,620
and now we're looking at sustainment

985
01:24:24,920 --> 01:24:28,840
of the outreach effort for the town.

986
01:24:29,800 --> 01:24:33,120
I realize policies change, programs change,

987
01:24:33,460 --> 01:24:38,300
information does change, but the level of effort

988
01:24:38,300 --> 01:24:44,880
will not be as high as it has probably been from the last year.

989
01:24:45,320 --> 01:24:52,620
With that, I really think that the position belongs in communications because it's related

990
01:24:52,620 --> 01:24:53,440
to community.

991
01:24:53,740 --> 01:24:55,020
It is in communications.

992
01:24:55,020 --> 01:24:59,760
Well, I mean, like, it should not be called the language access role.

993
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:29,480
It should be called a communications or community outreach coordinator, too, or what. Right. And the reason I say that is because it's more than language. It's culture. It's, it's a lot, it's, there's more depth that, you know, so I, I don't feel like it should be labeled as language access. I just feel like it's a broader.

994
01:25:29,480 --> 01:25:33,860
or kind of connection that we're trying to establish.

995
01:25:34,360 --> 01:25:43,840
Okay. The second one is Generative AI. We've got a trend here going on with all the council members.

996
01:25:44,220 --> 01:25:53,280
I have been very fortunate to have had Microsoft co-pilot for the last year as a professional

997
01:25:53,280 --> 01:26:07,100
and I have used it a lot for various items, projects, reports, presentations, capturing

998
01:26:07,100 --> 01:26:14,120
meeting summaries, kind of generating new ideas. It is an amazing tool. With that said,

999
01:26:14,380 --> 01:26:20,180
we need to communicate to our public what we're going to intend on giving back to them

1000
01:26:20,180 --> 01:26:26,300
through the generative AI because so many people haven't had the experience that I've had

1001
01:26:26,300 --> 01:26:30,780
and some are just trying to understand what it means and it can be scary.

1002
01:26:31,420 --> 01:26:39,480
So if we look at the slide that has the generative AI and just say externally enhancing communication

1003
01:26:39,480 --> 01:26:47,220
and enhancing, you know, you gave a laundry list but it really needs to speak to the public

1004
01:26:47,220 --> 01:26:52,140
that you're using generative AI to improve transparency of government

1005
01:26:52,140 --> 01:26:58,540
programming and documentation, for example. And then also generative AI

1006
01:26:58,540 --> 01:27:05,860
internally enhancing staff efficiency and operations. I think that's going to

1007
01:27:05,860 --> 01:27:12,800
resonate with the public because we were kind of explaining a little bit about

1008
01:27:12,800 --> 01:27:20,260
about the purpose, not specific activities and tasks, but just letting them know of ways

1009
01:27:20,260 --> 01:27:25,980
that we're innovating and leading in that space, and it's really a benefit and a value.

1010
01:27:26,180 --> 01:27:27,740
We'll certainly spend on that in the budget message.

1011
01:27:27,980 --> 01:27:28,140
Yes.

1012
01:27:28,960 --> 01:27:36,200
And then finally, poor Michelle, that you attended today, I want to talk to her for a second.

1013
01:27:36,200 --> 01:27:43,080
Again, the more I hear, and the more questions from Council is, I think it's important that

1014
01:27:43,760 --> 01:27:48,920
we get more information about this perimeter park study in a written form.

1015
01:27:49,280 --> 01:27:57,400
Could you provide a purpose, a scope, timeline, just so that we understand it, because I'm

1016
01:27:57,400 --> 01:28:02,520
hearing good information, but I really need to see it written down so I can kind of understand

1017
01:28:02,520 --> 01:28:07,540
and it a little bit better, because the scope is important.

1018
01:28:07,760 --> 01:28:13,880
It is over $100,000, and I take a lot of those larger projects

1019
01:28:13,880 --> 01:28:18,560
with more caution, and I want to review it, and I'm sure others

1020
01:28:18,560 --> 01:28:21,760
would want to have that opportunity as well.

1021
01:28:22,520 --> 01:28:27,520
So in that way, we can better understand and appreciate

1022
01:28:27,520 --> 01:28:30,380
and ask deeper questions if needed.

1023
01:28:30,380 --> 01:28:36,760
I mean, I don't want to get in the space, but I do want to express that I haven't really

1024
01:28:37,320 --> 01:28:38,340
heard this before.

1025
01:28:38,600 --> 01:28:44,500
And so I feel like I need to have a better understanding to, you know, as I move through

1026
01:28:44,500 --> 01:28:45,220
the budget process.

1027
01:28:45,500 --> 01:28:46,220
I'm happy to share that.

1028
01:28:46,480 --> 01:28:46,700
Okay.

1029
01:28:46,920 --> 01:28:47,500
Thank you.

1030
01:28:48,680 --> 01:28:49,460
That's a move, John.

1031
01:28:49,760 --> 01:28:50,080
Okay.

1032
01:28:50,220 --> 01:28:55,000
We're not done talking about the program report, small area plan.

1033
01:28:55,440 --> 01:28:58,560
So I've got to put my two cents in about that too.

1034
01:28:58,560 --> 01:29:04,520
I think the name probably does need to be changed because if I'm hearing correctly, it's more than just perimeter park

1035
01:29:04,520 --> 01:29:11,440
Or is it just perimeter park? Well, no, it doesn't matter. I think we need more information, so that's fine

1036
01:29:11,440 --> 01:29:14,160
but I

1037
01:29:14,160 --> 01:29:15,500
Need even more than that

1038
01:29:15,500 --> 01:29:22,780
It I have been very supportive of all the small earlier small area plans. We have done in the past

1039
01:29:22,780 --> 01:29:28,480
because we knew there was development pressure coming to those areas and we

1040
01:29:28,480 --> 01:29:34,120
wanted to be proactive and get ahead of that. I need to know there's some kind

1041
01:29:34,120 --> 01:29:41,880
of pressure here from the in this case the owners of the property that they

1042
01:29:41,880 --> 01:29:52,760
want to redevelop. Why do we want to create a plan if there's no desire to

1043
01:29:52,760 --> 01:29:59,580
even have a plan. So I need to start. They are quite frankly. And I will tell you and I, I need

1044
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:28,700
Because the one meeting I went to that the chamber conducted where we talked about the empty space out there, and many of you were there, and you might out of the different impression. My impression was they were looking for us to save them. And that's not going to happen. They have to be willing to save themselves. And they have to be willing to invest. And they have to be willing to,

1045
01:30:28,700 --> 01:30:36,480
to fulfill whatever small area plan we come up with, and I didn't hear that at all.

1046
01:30:37,420 --> 01:30:44,920
So I need to hear that this is, before we invest this kind of money to come up with a plan,

1047
01:30:44,920 --> 01:30:49,560
which I am very supportive of, I need to understand there's a desire on the other end.

1048
01:30:49,920 --> 01:30:54,040
Otherwise, it's a plan that's going to sit on the shelf and we'll be outdated very quickly

1049
01:30:54,040 --> 01:30:57,380
as technology and the economy and things change.

1050
01:30:57,380 --> 01:31:06,940
So, I don't want to spend this kind of money without the other landlords involved coming

1051
01:31:06,940 --> 01:31:07,680
to the table.

1052
01:31:08,140 --> 01:31:10,640
And I know we would engage, I'm not saying that.

1053
01:31:10,740 --> 01:31:15,120
I know we would do our part to engage, but I need to hear from them, they are ready.

1054
01:31:15,940 --> 01:31:21,780
And then I think we can work together to come up with a plan that can it help us and help

1055
01:31:21,780 --> 01:31:22,060
them.

1056
01:31:23,060 --> 01:31:24,560
That's just my two cents on that.

1057
01:31:27,240 --> 01:31:27,480
Okay.

1058
01:31:27,960 --> 01:31:28,580
Thank you all.

1059
01:31:28,580 --> 01:31:33,860
that's very good feedback. We appreciate it. That'll help us wrap up our recommended budget.

1060
01:31:37,090 --> 01:31:43,470
Yep, this is me. So looking at expenses, we will briefly talk just a little bit about how

1061
01:31:43,470 --> 01:31:48,230
we're factoring and recruitment, recruitment and retention and the advantages of that

1062
01:31:48,230 --> 01:31:55,150
in this budget as well. This budget does include a 2% market adjustment as well as a 4 and a half

1063
01:31:55,150 --> 01:32:01,190
percent merit adjustment, just to make sure that we can maintain a level of competitiveness

1064
01:32:01,190 --> 01:32:06,270
within the market for employees. It also includes the job classification market study,

1065
01:32:06,450 --> 01:32:12,070
market analysis for paying class for that purpose as well. In addition to that, we do

1066
01:32:12,070 --> 01:32:19,290
have our Elders retirement increases that have been built in based on projections from the

1067
01:32:19,290 --> 01:32:20,210
the state of North Carolina.

1068
01:32:21,010 --> 01:32:22,270
And in addition to that,

1069
01:32:22,430 --> 01:32:25,450
we also have our healthcare premium increases this year.

1070
01:32:25,570 --> 01:32:30,110
However, that due to planning in the past

1071
01:32:30,750 --> 01:32:33,790
and kind of solid financial management and projections,

1072
01:32:33,850 --> 01:32:36,810
we do know that our healthcare fund can support

1073
01:32:36,810 --> 01:32:38,650
any increases this particular year.

1074
01:32:38,790 --> 01:32:40,290
So we don't see a massive jump

1075
01:32:40,290 --> 01:32:43,410
within the general fund budget funding that increase.

1076
01:32:43,750 --> 01:32:45,530
And real quickly on that.

1077
01:32:45,530 --> 01:32:53,090
So we have been pretty consistent between two and a half and three percent of an increase for at least the last three years.

1078
01:32:53,390 --> 01:32:58,010
We funded a five percent increase because we were building our reserve within end ship.

1079
01:32:58,490 --> 01:33:02,370
So they like us to keep a two times reserve in there and for a while we weren't there.

1080
01:33:02,730 --> 01:33:05,450
So we continue to contribute. So we're now there.

1081
01:33:06,050 --> 01:33:13,470
So again, end ship is really continuing to demonstrate its value to us and certainly to our staff in terms of the coverage and how that's working.

1082
01:33:13,470 --> 01:33:28,610
So this year at 2.5% health premium increase is I think very good considering the market a neighboring municipality recently announced a 24% increase in health insurance.

1083
01:33:29,230 --> 01:33:32,350
So 2.5% is very good.

1084
01:33:32,350 --> 01:33:38,210
So, again, Kudos to Genie, Kudos to Martha at the time for getting us involved with Endship.

1085
01:33:38,710 --> 01:33:41,070
You know, it's gone from a very small group.

1086
01:33:41,210 --> 01:33:44,070
I think 10 started that, maybe even seven started that.

1087
01:33:44,190 --> 01:33:44,990
We were one of those.

1088
01:33:45,310 --> 01:33:50,870
It's now up to, I believe, 29 members and they're looking at adding six more this summer.

1089
01:33:51,150 --> 01:33:55,350
And it's gone up to covering more than, it has more than 20,000 covered lives.

1090
01:33:55,810 --> 01:33:59,610
So the buying power, if you will, is pretty impressive there.

1091
01:33:59,610 --> 01:34:05,250
So that's going well and again because of that internal reserve we have we're going to be able to

1092
01:34:05,250 --> 01:34:11,790
Not charge an increase to our staff even with a family or spousal coverage

1093
01:34:12,370 --> 01:34:16,830
The only exception is that is anyways on the buy-up. That's a choice and they pay for that

1094
01:34:16,830 --> 01:34:22,110
But we'll again be able to help our staff out a little bit with no premium increase being shared with them

1095
01:34:23,330 --> 01:34:23,850
I

1096
01:34:26,120 --> 01:34:32,140
have a quick question about that is 4.5% merit all across or is it an average?

1097
01:34:32,580 --> 01:34:33,280
So that's going to be average.

1098
01:34:33,480 --> 01:34:37,380
So let's just make sure that's clear because we'll have exceed such a bit of stations

1099
01:34:37,380 --> 01:34:39,980
and doesn't like we have in the past.

1100
01:34:40,140 --> 01:34:40,540
Thank you.

1101
01:34:40,560 --> 01:34:40,660
Yeah.

1102
01:34:43,940 --> 01:34:48,320
So just kind of continuing on with our recruitment and retention focus for this outcome in

1103
01:34:48,320 --> 01:34:48,920
fiscal year.

1104
01:34:49,340 --> 01:34:54,400
Our HR department does have plans to help establish a task force in order to help develop

1105
01:34:54,400 --> 01:34:56,700
of the Leadership Academy for the organization.

1106
01:34:57,180 --> 01:34:58,740
This will give others.

1107
01:35:08,880 --> 01:35:29,980
There's also another tool in our toolbox in order to be able to maintain a level of succession within the organization so that as staff does ultimately decide to leave at any point that we have people ready to take over and be able to pick up the ball and hit the ground running in order to continue the work.

1108
01:35:29,980 --> 01:35:31,220
work that we do as a community.

1109
01:35:31,900 --> 01:35:36,700
In addition to that, there is going to be a fellow, a UNC fellow for this year that

1110
01:35:36,700 --> 01:35:41,160
is going to aid our HR department, helping to get that leadership academy underway and

1111
01:35:41,160 --> 01:35:47,100
help with some of that initial planning, initial succession planning and strategic leadership

1112
01:35:47,100 --> 01:35:47,700
development.

1113
01:35:48,460 --> 01:35:54,680
We also do have as well the introduction of an HR analyst in this budget to help focus on

1114
01:35:54,680 --> 01:35:59,460
recruitment and retention, to help streamline the recruitment process in order to make sure

1115
01:35:59,460 --> 01:36:03,560
that we get folks in the door quicker, ready to work, ready to go.

1116
01:36:04,380 --> 01:36:07,180
And the one thing that I do want to point out with this change,

1117
01:36:07,340 --> 01:36:10,120
there is a change in software and that change in software

1118
01:36:10,520 --> 01:36:12,840
is actually going to be cheaper than our current software.

1119
01:36:13,000 --> 01:36:16,400
So we will see a level of efficiency as well as calls going down

1120
01:36:16,960 --> 01:36:18,000
in order to implement this.

1121
01:36:19,120 --> 01:36:22,840
And that's really, again, Kudos to David in the HR department

1122
01:36:22,840 --> 01:36:25,160
for looking at different options and seeing what we had.

1123
01:36:25,320 --> 01:36:26,020
Councilmember Spada, John.

1124
01:36:26,020 --> 01:36:35,270
Thank you. I actually want to go back up slide to the, yeah, that's it. Thank you.

1125
01:36:36,770 --> 01:36:47,490
It's been recently made known to me that the dental plan for the town is no longer the same or it's being canceled.

1126
01:36:48,310 --> 01:36:58,610
And could you speak a little bit about that and how that future program would be part of that 2.5% health

1127
01:36:58,610 --> 01:36:58,710
bit?

1128
01:36:59,650 --> 01:37:05,090
So what has happened is we have previously used Delta Dental and it's been through the North Carolina League of

1129
01:37:05,090 --> 01:37:05,810
Municipalities.

1130
01:37:06,330 --> 01:37:11,270
So the League announced a few months ago that they were going to stop that fund and those services.

1131
01:37:11,490 --> 01:37:14,810
So they're no longer offering health insurance and dental insurance.

1132
01:37:14,890 --> 01:37:16,070
I care that sort of thing.

1133
01:37:16,070 --> 01:37:21,830
So David and his team have been working on that and have identified an option with Mutual

1134
01:37:21,830 --> 01:37:24,610
of Omaha who already provides us some services.

1135
01:37:25,230 --> 01:37:26,990
So we are switching over to them.

1136
01:37:27,270 --> 01:37:32,090
And with that we actually find that there are more practitioners in the area that participated

1137
01:37:32,090 --> 01:37:36,490
in that than doing Delta Dental so that should be advantageous to our staff and anyone that

1138
01:37:36,490 --> 01:37:42,270
we cover with health insurance and we actually anticipate seeing a small decrease in cost

1139
01:37:42,270 --> 01:37:43,290
because of this move.

1140
01:37:44,010 --> 01:37:51,550
Very good, that's very helpful and it's more reassuring to that 2.5 and how you were

1141
01:37:51,550 --> 01:37:58,910
able to meet that target versus 24 percent, I'm kind of gobsmacked at that, to be honest.

1142
01:37:59,730 --> 01:38:07,190
The other comment is in the slide that we were on, yeah, just, yeah, that's it.

1143
01:38:09,950 --> 01:38:14,590
I don't know if we've talked about this, so I apologize if I haven't mentioned this before

1144
01:38:14,590 --> 01:38:24,930
for, but one of the investments in staff to me would be to have training on customer service.

1145
01:38:25,570 --> 01:38:37,110
We have a lot of part time and staff that haven't been enrolled very long, and a lot

1146
01:38:37,110 --> 01:38:45,010
A lot of staff do have exposure to the public through various activities that they do.

1147
01:38:45,610 --> 01:38:58,370
Having a program of training or some way of consistently keeping everybody with the same level of service,

1148
01:38:58,370 --> 01:39:00,350
I think would be fantastic.

1149
01:39:01,490 --> 01:39:04,410
And it's leadership is good, don't get me wrong.

1150
01:39:04,410 --> 01:39:08,090
I think we need to train our future leaders and invest heavily there.

1151
01:39:08,710 --> 01:39:16,570
But it's also that customer service aspect really kind of brings more spill up a notch.

1152
01:39:17,150 --> 01:39:25,550
And helping both our staff and our public understand what is needed in communicating more effectively.

1153
01:39:26,150 --> 01:39:31,250
And having that confidence in the level of service is something I feel is very valuable.

1154
01:39:31,650 --> 01:39:31,790
So-

1155
01:39:31,790 --> 01:39:32,090
Thank you.

1156
01:39:32,390 --> 01:39:32,710
Thank you.

1157
01:39:33,350 --> 01:39:39,610
Councilmember Johnson. So yeah actually I'm going back to the other slide on I know we're talking

1158
01:39:39,610 --> 01:39:46,130
about health insurance here but when was the last time or how often do we go out and get quotes

1159
01:39:46,130 --> 01:39:52,730
on all our insurance like workers comp property and liability do we do that when was the last time

1160
01:39:52,730 --> 01:39:59,530
we did it. I would have to check on that it's it's recent it hasn't been the last year or two we do do

1161
01:39:59,530 --> 01:39:59,970
Do that on the...

1162
01:40:00,210 --> 01:40:14,770
And I will talk with David and I get to answer that. Make sure I because I think that's important. Sure. Of course that we're shopping around for the best the best that we can. Okay. Thank you. Okay.

1163
01:40:18,440 --> 01:40:31,120
Okay. Okay. So just looking at a couple of other highlights, a couple of other areas that are in this. In this. Can I say I'm sorry. Can I and I echo. Sorry. I meant to say that to and I echo.

1164
01:40:31,120 --> 01:40:37,340
So, Council Member Skrazen-Shan, with customer service, I just want to echo that.

1165
01:40:38,440 --> 01:40:38,920
Sorry.

1166
01:40:39,220 --> 01:40:39,520
I'm sorry.

1167
01:40:39,700 --> 01:40:40,080
No, no, no.

1168
01:40:40,740 --> 01:40:41,200
Okay.

1169
01:40:42,500 --> 01:40:42,980
Okay.

1170
01:40:43,200 --> 01:40:45,320
So, a couple of other topics that we do have in this budget.

1171
01:40:45,900 --> 01:40:53,180
The base budget does have affordable housing resources for the ability to kind of get that initiative

1172
01:40:53,180 --> 01:40:57,500
started for this particular year, based on the current council direction as it stands.

1173
01:40:57,500 --> 01:41:01,800
also includes the chamber agreement. The chamber agreement is currently set at

1174
01:41:01,800 --> 01:41:06,380
$50,000 and one thing I do just kind of want to make sure I get a temperature

1175
01:41:06,380 --> 01:41:10,700
check in the room that everybody's okay with the current level of funding

1176
01:41:10,700 --> 01:41:15,020
for the for the chamber in this particular budget. We good?

1177
01:41:17,460 --> 01:41:18,360
I have to not ask for

1178
01:41:18,360 --> 01:41:24,820
more. Yeah I think you know Christy is very realistic about that. I think she

1179
01:41:24,820 --> 01:41:29,880
know is where they are and she is very, you know, understanding of is taking time to understand

1180
01:41:29,880 --> 01:41:35,920
the history and how we got to here. So I think she recognizes that there's respectfully

1181
01:41:35,920 --> 01:41:41,180
still a little more proof in the pudding to come. And I actually spoke to their board this morning

1182
01:41:41,620 --> 01:41:46,680
at the regular meeting. And I shared that, you know, that was where I anticipated that we were

1183
01:41:46,680 --> 01:41:51,480
heading and that as we, you know, grow more comfortable with and see more consistent performance,

1184
01:41:51,480 --> 01:41:55,540
Maybe it's not a one-year agreement next time, and maybe it is different funding, depending

1185
01:41:55,540 --> 01:41:59,620
on what's going on, where the partnerships are, what Tiffany and Amelia are sharing

1186
01:41:59,620 --> 01:42:00,080
with us.

1187
01:42:00,340 --> 01:42:00,560
So, yeah.

1188
01:42:00,780 --> 01:42:04,060
But I think, I say that to say that, I think Christie gets that, which is good.

1189
01:42:06,120 --> 01:42:10,980
And then just lastly, just want to point out, too, that this is a year of a CIP refresh.

1190
01:42:12,200 --> 01:42:17,400
Right now, we currently have kind of a draft CIP planned for this particular budget based

1191
01:42:17,400 --> 01:42:20,540
on consensus and input that we received from our treat.

1192
01:42:20,540 --> 01:42:35,160
We did hear you all that you did want to go back and do a second prioritization exercise and once we get the remainder of those prioritizations in, then we'll come back and compile those and bring you all that back once we have all those submissions.

1193
01:42:36,440 --> 01:42:38,200
And that can generally be done.

1194
01:42:48,980 --> 01:42:58,220
We, if you want, we have about two more slides and then we can, yeah, we can, I'll move on through and we'll get over that.

1195
01:43:01,590 --> 01:43:07,750
So I do also want to point out where we are in terms of our sustainability initiatives.

1196
01:43:08,230 --> 01:43:14,190
Over the past four years, the town has received and-or funded itself roughly about a million

1197
01:43:14,190 --> 01:43:16,670
dollars worth of sustainability initiatives.

1198
01:43:17,110 --> 01:43:20,970
We've currently spent a little bit more than half of that, almost $600,000.

1199
01:43:21,590 --> 01:43:25,910
And right now, we have about $333,000 remaining, which the manager mentioned earlier.

1200
01:43:25,910 --> 01:43:32,530
Some of that is from grants, some of that is from the $200,000 in recurring based budget

1201
01:43:32,530 --> 01:43:36,970
funding that you all have appropriated each year for the past couple of years.

1202
01:43:37,970 --> 01:43:44,910
Just want to also point out, too, that there are other areas that might not necessarily

1203
01:43:44,910 --> 01:43:51,530
receive direct funding, but we do consider all levels of sustainability initiatives to be

1204
01:43:51,530 --> 01:43:52,590
a part of all of our projects.

1205
01:43:52,590 --> 01:44:18,770
So anywhere from our collaboration with our public works department and our financial services department to develop a sustainable purchasing policy, which, you know, generates everything for making sure that we purchase can, excuse me, compostable, compostable silverware and cutlery plates, as well as other areas where we look to purchase.

1206
01:44:18,770 --> 01:44:25,650
whenever we do our vehicle purchases that we first look for EVs and hybrid vehicles prior to buying just regular combustible engine.

1207
01:44:29,390 --> 01:44:31,510
Regular combustible engine vehicles.

1208
01:44:31,970 --> 01:44:43,730
We are happy to report that that man in the back that our public works director is hopeful that we will be able to get our first fully EV vehicles this particular coming fiscal year.

1209
01:44:43,730 --> 01:44:50,570
Still on board with that and then as well as just other other solar projects that are still ongoing and hopefully will be

1210
01:44:50,570 --> 01:44:52,170
Completed by the end of this fiscal year

1211
01:44:55,850 --> 01:44:58,990
and I do also just want to I also want to point out too that

1212
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:19,940
But I think the manager mentioned it earlier, but we do have that $333,000 in remaining funds that will be carried over this year. But that will be in addition to the $200,000 that's in the base budget. So they should have about a half a million dollars to be able to be able to get those particular initiatives and projects done for this fiscal year.

1213
01:45:22,880 --> 01:45:31,900
So just moving on to some of our cost comparison factors. We did hear you all that you wanted to make sure that we provided you with some level of

1214
01:45:31,900 --> 01:45:35,560
peer data from our other municipalities within the region.

1215
01:45:35,960 --> 01:45:38,520
We're still a bit early and we're still working on collecting that.

1216
01:45:38,680 --> 01:45:42,700
We do have some, but we also want to make sure that we are attentive to the needs of

1217
01:45:42,700 --> 01:45:45,740
the other municipalities and making sure that we don't get ahead of their councils.

1218
01:45:46,180 --> 01:45:50,660
In a lot of cases, their budget and finance departments have not been able to present

1219
01:45:50,660 --> 01:45:55,860
in front of their boards so we don't want to bring back any information prior to them being able

1220
01:45:55,860 --> 01:46:01,200
to share what their boards first. But I do want to point out that just from our initial

1221
01:46:01,200 --> 01:46:06,100
conversations. There is a level of consensus that there is a pretty conservative approach

1222
01:46:06,100 --> 01:46:11,960
to the budget process for all of our municipalities within the area. They all hear pretty much

1223
01:46:11,960 --> 01:46:17,020
the same information that we do, particularly related to sales tax. And so there is a pretty

1224
01:46:17,020 --> 01:46:21,740
concerted effort for everyone to be very conservative when it comes to that, just due to the volatility

1225
01:46:21,740 --> 01:46:28,260
and the potential, the potential downfall in the market that might indicate a level of changes

1226
01:46:28,260 --> 01:46:31,220
in sales tax different from what we traditionally see.

1227
01:46:32,060 --> 01:46:37,120
Also want to point out that there is about three to five percent average merit for the

1228
01:46:37,120 --> 01:46:38,420
municipalities in the area.

1229
01:46:39,320 --> 01:46:39,960
We do hear that.

1230
01:46:40,200 --> 01:46:43,580
We don't have specific numbers that we're ready to share with you all yet about each and

1231
01:46:43,580 --> 01:46:44,980
every one of those municipalities.

1232
01:46:45,460 --> 01:46:49,960
But the consensus is somewhere around about three percent to five percent, so we're right

1233
01:46:49,960 --> 01:46:50,920
kind of in the middle there.

1234
01:46:51,320 --> 01:46:56,500
We also want to point out that we do currently still have the third lowest tax rate based

1235
01:46:56,500 --> 01:46:58,660
on the information that we have within the area.

1236
01:47:00,240 --> 01:47:04,320
Any questions about kind of cost comparison so far?

1237
01:47:05,240 --> 01:47:08,520
And once we do have that data, we will make sure to bring that back to you all as well.

1238
01:47:11,160 --> 01:47:17,280
So lastly, we're kind of wrapping up, just want to make sure that if we have any other follow-up

1239
01:47:17,280 --> 01:47:25,360
items and any other key FAQs that you all have so far that we maintain, you know, be able

1240
01:47:25,360 --> 01:47:26,560
to get that back to you all.

1241
01:47:26,560 --> 01:47:31,440
Does anyone have any questions right now about any of the other topics that we've covered

1242
01:47:31,440 --> 01:47:32,100
so far today?

1243
01:47:39,120 --> 01:47:39,220
Yeah.

1244
01:47:39,360 --> 01:47:42,600
And we definitely captured all of those and we'll make sure to bring those back to you either

1245
01:47:42,600 --> 01:47:48,200
at a later date via the FAQ or in a presentation based on what you all have requested so far.

1246
01:47:50,280 --> 01:47:51,080
All right.

1247
01:47:51,300 --> 01:47:53,300
So other than that, I know we're ready to go.

1248
01:47:53,640 --> 01:47:55,180
I just want to point out where we are.

1249
01:47:55,420 --> 01:48:00,780
We will be bringing you all the recommended budget next week and then we will prepare to be

1250
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be able to provide you all with the preview and the public hearing in there.

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01:48:04,460 --> 01:48:04,960
All right.

1252
01:48:05,880 --> 01:48:06,500
Thank you.

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01:48:09,360 --> 01:48:09,920
Very nice.

1254
01:48:10,120 --> 01:48:12,280
You want to take a 10-minute break, people, and come back at 8.

1255
01:48:13,080 --> 01:48:13,680
That be right.

1256
01:48:14,200 --> 01:48:15,440
We'll come back for roundtables.

1257
01:48:15,800 --> 01:48:16,780
Please be back at 8 p.m.

1258
01:48:16,980 --> 01:48:17,220
Thank you.

1259
01:48:22,380 --> 01:48:24,140
At this point, we are coming back in session.

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01:48:24,300 --> 01:48:28,940
Town Council of Roundtable, I'll pass it once again to Deputy Town Manager Zudema.

1261
01:48:29,320 --> 01:48:31,940
I'm going to backtrack just for a second, back to budget.

1262
01:48:32,220 --> 01:48:33,720
We ran out to the break.

1263
01:48:33,720 --> 01:48:35,060
I have something to share with you.

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01:48:35,060 --> 01:48:53,520
So, Parks and Rec has put together their recommendation for the fee structure at the senior center regarding potentially an enrollment or a membership fee for non-residents, basically no cost to residents unless they like to take a trip.

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01:48:54,180 --> 01:48:56,680
So, I would like to give this to you now to look at.

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01:48:56,680 --> 01:49:01,380
and then we can certainly discuss it again when we come back together either the 13th

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01:49:01,380 --> 01:49:03,580
or during the work session on the 15th.

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What we will do is for the purposes of the recommended budget, we'll show this rate

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01:49:07,740 --> 01:49:10,940
in the fee schedule, but we can certainly amend that as we have conversations.

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01:49:11,300 --> 01:49:16,240
But I think it addresses your discussions and perhaps your concerns.

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01:49:16,660 --> 01:49:22,080
So if you have comments or questions prior to the 13th, please feel free to share those

1272
01:49:22,080 --> 01:49:22,540
with me.

1273
01:49:40,980 --> 01:49:41,420
So

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01:49:43,720 --> 01:49:48,580
now I'll pass it to Deputy Tenman, George Zell, Roy Gries to facilitate our discussion

1275
01:49:48,580 --> 01:49:50,040
about Town Council Roundtable.

1276
01:49:50,480 --> 01:49:51,020
Thank you.

1277
01:49:51,160 --> 01:49:51,760
Thank you, Mayor.

1278
01:49:52,360 --> 01:49:54,960
So we have one new item submitted for tonight.

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01:49:54,960 --> 01:49:59,680
It was introduced by Mayor Colleys, so Mayor, if you would like to introduce your item.

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01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:29,820
During one discussion, I guess a couple of weeks ago, I brought up the fact that there was discussion at that time about the craftry Creek Nature Park and whether or not it might be possible to look into what amenities were going to be in that park. And since it's been delayed kind of indefinitely at this time, would there be any value in looking into that and maybe doing any of those elsewhere as part of that park before it's developed or along any of our greenways. I was told that that should be a roundtable item.

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So I'm bringing it up now in case anyone has any thoughts about that.

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01:50:32,960 --> 01:50:37,720
This simple ask is to have staff take a look at what would be programmed in there.

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01:50:38,440 --> 01:50:42,080
And whether or not it would be reasonable to go ahead and maybe do some of that programming now.

1284
01:50:42,760 --> 01:50:46,060
An example would be kind of an educational thing along a greenway.

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01:50:46,200 --> 01:50:51,280
We're going to have a walking path back there raised and we do have a raised board walk along

1286
01:50:52,100 --> 01:50:57,180
the greenway already. So I'm not sure why we can do some kind of educational thing that we would do

1287
01:50:57,180 --> 01:51:03,280
at the new park, just to be more educational and lean into sustainability and whatever else

1288
01:51:03,280 --> 01:51:08,860
we would educate people about at the park. So not asking to do much else than just ask staff

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01:51:08,860 --> 01:51:15,720
to look at using existing amenities to serve that. And I'm hoping that any thoughts that you

1290
01:51:15,720 --> 01:51:16,780
might have council member buddy.

1291
01:51:19,020 --> 01:51:22,400
Yeah, I think that's a good idea especially since we don't know when

1292
01:51:22,400 --> 01:51:30,280
If we're going to be able to do the full plan for that park, I think it'd be nice to have an educational trail back there.

1293
01:51:30,620 --> 01:51:39,380
I like the ones that we already have in town, especially one that leans into the environmental aspect, like the wetlands and, you know, something like that.

1294
01:51:39,500 --> 01:51:42,600
But I mean, just asking staff to look into it, I think it's fine.

1295
01:51:43,400 --> 01:51:45,920
Okay. Councilmember Schrogg and Johnson followed by Councilmember Fender.

1296
01:51:46,820 --> 01:51:48,660
I'm still untangling this microphone.

1297
01:51:48,660 --> 01:51:56,920
One thing that popped in my head when I was looking at this proposal is that very low

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01:51:56,920 --> 01:52:05,040
spend, but one of the things I'd like is some of the signs around our parks and history

1299
01:52:05,040 --> 01:52:07,780
signs where we have information.

1300
01:52:08,140 --> 01:52:15,400
I've seen in some cities where they have identification of trees like you might be able to have something

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01:52:15,400 --> 01:52:22,060
this is a very old blah, blah, blah tree and have information like a QR code where they could learn

1302
01:52:22,060 --> 01:52:29,180
more about that tree. Somehow bringing some education about that natural area

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01:52:30,580 --> 01:52:39,160
with very low cost simple signage or creating some sort of scavenger hunt, if you will,

1304
01:52:39,160 --> 01:52:50,780
there might be a win-win, we'll be encouraging people to learn something as well as keeping it preserved more naturally, maybe, so that would be great.

1305
01:52:51,200 --> 01:52:51,540
Thank you.

1306
01:52:52,000 --> 01:52:54,120
Thank you, Council Member Fender, followed by Council Member Johnson.

1307
01:52:55,420 --> 01:53:00,940
Yeah, I agree. I think, you know, at a minimum we could do educational science.

1308
01:53:00,940 --> 01:53:10,400
we already have some with the storm water pond a church street park and then over here but

1309
01:53:10,400 --> 01:53:17,020
and something like that like for the wetlands the raised boardwalk goes through that wetlands the

1310
01:53:17,020 --> 01:53:26,440
area has to create I think I think it's a good I like that thank you councilmember johnson so yeah I'm

1311
01:53:26,440 --> 01:53:28,760
I'm fine with that, having Steph look into it.

1312
01:53:29,020 --> 01:53:33,940
It also occurs to me, though, we just talked about the fact that we're going to do a park's master plan update.

1313
01:53:35,080 --> 01:53:37,500
So I don't know how that all ties in.

1314
01:53:38,060 --> 01:53:48,340
So I'd like to, I think when Steph considers that I would like to understand that to how it ties in with the master plan.

1315
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We will then have staff evaluate and bring an update back.

1316
01:54:01,880 --> 01:54:03,280
Thank you all very much.

1317
01:54:04,800 --> 01:54:06,820
I also want to talk about a couple of things.

1318
01:54:09,180 --> 01:54:09,740
Okay.

1319
01:54:10,300 --> 01:54:13,100
Do you have something related to this or older items?

1320
01:54:13,480 --> 01:54:13,960
Older items.

1321
01:54:14,240 --> 01:54:14,320
Okay.

1322
01:54:14,820 --> 01:54:17,760
So we are essentially moving into that right now.

1323
01:54:17,760 --> 01:54:19,740
So I'll give you the floor.

1324
01:54:20,240 --> 01:54:22,840
OK, so I would like, where is it?

1325
01:54:22,940 --> 01:54:24,280
It's on page 10.

1326
01:54:25,500 --> 01:54:29,020
The item on the senior center survey.

1327
01:54:30,340 --> 01:54:33,340
I know it says complete is out, but we have still not

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01:54:33,340 --> 01:54:34,420
received that information.

1329
01:54:34,420 --> 01:54:36,380
So in my mind that is not complete.

1330
01:54:37,220 --> 01:54:42,240
And then the last update it talks about that it was conducted

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01:54:42,240 --> 01:54:45,000
in November, and it wasn't conducted in November.

1332
01:54:45,220 --> 01:54:47,360
It was conducted in January and February.

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01:54:47,360 --> 01:54:53,160
of this year. So I want to make sure that it's updated and reflected correctly.

1334
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:05,200
Johnston, if I could, we thank you for your patience with that. We kind of showed you what

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01:55:05,200 --> 01:55:10,120
that looked like in a spreadsheet, but Jeannie and Micah have been working on that in the

1336
01:55:10,120 --> 01:55:14,160
midst of doing budget work as well. They showed me a draft today. We're making some

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01:55:14,160 --> 01:55:20,020
matters. We should have that to you tomorrow. Okay. Thank you. I'm sorry. It was page 10 of

1338
01:55:20,020 --> 01:55:28,100
The packet is page 2 of 7, perfect the top page 2 of 7.

1339
01:55:30,660 --> 01:55:33,900
OK, I'll make a note, and we'll make sure we'll reflect it correctly.

1340
01:55:34,440 --> 01:55:34,760
Thank you.

1341
01:55:36,940 --> 01:55:40,720
So we provided a summary of the items that were previously presented.

1342
01:55:41,080 --> 01:55:43,380
There are great updates there.

1343
01:55:43,880 --> 01:55:46,280
The last round table we had several items introduced.

1344
01:55:46,920 --> 01:55:50,320
And staff has provided what I will consider

1345
01:55:50,320 --> 01:55:57,200
very good updates on each of those items. I'm not planning to hold you here to

1346
01:55:57,200 --> 01:56:00,560
give you a summary of all of the updates that were provided on the spreadsheet.

1347
01:56:00,560 --> 01:56:06,120
I'm sure you appreciate that, but I would like to ask if you all have any questions.

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01:56:06,140 --> 01:56:10,520
Is there anything that was not clear or anything that you feel needs to be

1349
01:56:10,520 --> 01:56:12,900
explored any further than it already has?

1350
01:56:18,560 --> 01:56:22,790
No? Okay, well perfect. There's also in

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01:56:22,790 --> 01:56:32,450
In addition to this, there was a confidential memo that was provided from Jeffrey to you all that came from the town attorney related to one of the items.

1352
01:56:33,010 --> 01:56:36,890
So that was included in this packet, but it is in your emails.

1353
01:56:37,690 --> 01:56:42,070
So with that, the next round table is going to be in June 24.

1354
01:56:43,530 --> 01:56:46,710
Our meetings in May are pretty packed already with budget discussion.

1355
01:56:46,710 --> 01:56:52,210
So our next one will be June 24, so the deadline for submissions on that one will be June 16th.

1356
01:56:55,370 --> 01:57:08,560
In fact, just have a request, and this goes to not only the round table submissions, but any request to council for feedback.

1357
01:57:09,020 --> 01:57:14,720
If we could have the request at midnight of the day that it's due.

1358
01:57:14,720 --> 01:57:21,300
And the reason I mentioned that is a lot of the times it's like everything's

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01:57:21,300 --> 01:57:27,100
due at 5 p.m. on Tuesday, blah, blah, blah. I've worked during the day so it's

1360
01:57:27,100 --> 01:57:32,620
really the day before that the deadline is for me and if I can't get to it then I'm

1361
01:57:32,620 --> 01:57:38,280
in the deadline and sometimes the survey formal close because it's closing at 5 p.m.

1362
01:57:38,280 --> 01:57:46,960
and I can't add, so we could just customarily make it 11.59 pm on the day that it's due,

1363
01:57:47,400 --> 01:57:52,000
that would allow some flexibility for the town council.

1364
01:57:52,380 --> 01:57:58,060
That's in general. In general, that includes, you know, ballots due for committees.

1365
01:57:58,600 --> 01:58:02,760
Oh, I agree. Thank you. My end of day is not 5 pm.

1366
01:58:05,290 --> 01:58:06,730
My end of day is midnight.

1367
01:58:08,610 --> 01:58:16,230
I would tell the round table form is always open, so you can submit at any time, and yes,

1368
01:58:16,530 --> 01:58:25,030
I'm with you, that if I say the deadline is June 16 to 1159 and June 16, good, we like

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01:58:25,030 --> 01:58:25,190
that.

1370
01:58:25,990 --> 01:58:27,410
Yeah, absolutely.

1371
01:58:28,050 --> 01:58:34,350
Can we clarify for your calendar reminders, is it helpful to have it still kind of during

1372
01:58:34,350 --> 01:58:41,270
the visible part of the day or is at, so I worry that if it's at 11 to 12 it will be missed.

1373
01:58:41,670 --> 01:58:48,950
So a calendar, if you put an all day, all day preferred, that will flow to the top of our

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01:58:48,950 --> 01:58:50,590
day and we'll see it.

1375
01:58:50,790 --> 01:58:51,030
Perfect.

1376
01:58:51,330 --> 01:58:52,570
We'll make sure to do that going forward.

1377
01:58:52,810 --> 01:58:53,610
Thank you so much.

1378
01:58:53,990 --> 01:58:55,130
Thank you for those reminders.

1379
01:58:55,510 --> 01:58:57,170
They are very, they are very helpful.

1380
01:59:00,110 --> 01:59:02,490
Any other questions on Roundtable Councilman Fender?

1381
01:59:02,490 --> 01:59:06,590
But follow up question on the memo from Frank Gray.

1382
01:59:07,030 --> 01:59:11,250
Are you looking, is staff looking for feedback on this?

1383
01:59:11,490 --> 01:59:13,630
Because the memo left it open.

1384
01:59:14,270 --> 01:59:15,730
So we wanted to share with you

1385
01:59:15,730 --> 01:59:18,070
what was the attorney's opinion based on the research

1386
01:59:18,070 --> 01:59:19,310
that was completed.

1387
01:59:19,970 --> 01:59:22,210
In addition to the memo, the summary

1388
01:59:22,210 --> 01:59:25,290
explained what was staff position on that item

1389
01:59:25,610 --> 01:59:28,030
and what are some of the challenges with some of that.

1390
01:59:28,710 --> 01:59:30,570
So if you have any feedback,

1391
01:59:30,570 --> 01:59:34,270
you will like to provide or any clarification, we will take it.

1392
01:59:34,730 --> 01:59:40,930
I haven't read through the comments on your spreadsheet from staff.

1393
01:59:41,490 --> 01:59:45,350
If you would like to look through it and follow up on an email,

1394
01:59:45,670 --> 01:59:49,530
we will certainly take that or we can or if you prefer to discuss at the

1395
01:59:49,530 --> 01:59:50,950
next round table, we could do that too.

1396
01:59:51,550 --> 01:59:52,450
Okay, thank you.

1397
01:59:54,370 --> 01:59:55,370
Well, thank you all.

1398
01:59:55,930 --> 01:59:56,610
Thank you.

1399
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:05,620
Anything for the good of the order, sir? No, sir. Okay, I would entertain a motion to adjourn.

1400
02:00:09,870 --> 02:00:12,610
On some of my revidi, all those in favor of adjourning, please say aye.

1401
02:00:13,130 --> 02:00:17,090
Aye. Any opposed? Hearing none, that carries the unanimously 6-0. Thank you very much.