1 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:32,460 I call this March 14th meeting of the Morrisville Town Council to order. Thank you to those watching the live stream and those who are watching a recording of this meeting. 2 00:30:33,060 --> 00:30:41,380 I'm March 17. The video of this meeting will be uploaded to www.townof Morrisville.org for slash government for slash live-video. 3 00:30:42,380 --> 00:30:48,280 Master Officer Alexis Hogan has served as a police officer for three years and is currently a patrol officer assigned to uniform patrol. 4 00:30:48,500 --> 00:30:54,580 You appreciate being here this evening as our sergeant in arms. Tonight's invocation will be delivered by Council Member Rao. 5 00:30:59,380 --> 00:31:04,100 As we gather this evening in the All-America City of Morseville, we pray that you give the 6 00:31:04,100 --> 00:31:08,120 Council staff and gauge whether this strength and wisdom to continue to lead one of the 7 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:11,220 most inclusive, innovative, and dynamic towns in the nation. 8 00:31:11,900 --> 00:31:14,780 And pray for any family who has lost a loved one to any illness. 9 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:20,160 We are grateful on this America week for the 200,000 citizens of our nation who dedicate 10 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:25,240 themselves every year to serve their communities, a unifying force of service, which is so 11 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:26,960 dust we need to do in these times. 12 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:32,020 We pray that you keep our troops free wherever they may be, and we pray for the family 13 00:31:32,020 --> 00:31:36,200 of a former President, Jimmy Carter, the only President, one of the few President to use 14 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,460 the presidency to help millions of people around the world. 15 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:46,240 During this 1-6th month, we are so very grateful for the remarkable, for our women's 16 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,740 remarkable contributions to our nation and 17 00:31:48,740 --> 00:31:51,040 celebrating the trailblazers who now lead states, 18 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,420 serving Congress, Service Governor, Service U.S. 19 00:31:54,420 --> 00:31:56,760 Senators, Vice President of the United States, 20 00:31:57,140 --> 00:31:58,560 who drive innovation and job creation 21 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:00,460 and succeed in all sectors of our economy. 22 00:32:01,220 --> 00:32:03,440 We're also very grateful this evening for the dynamic 23 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,180 and successful women who serve on our town council 24 00:32:06,180 --> 00:32:09,600 in Morseville, including Mayor Perotem, Liz Johnson, 25 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:11,780 council members, Ricky Scroggins, Johnson, 26 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:13,240 and everybody in Donnerfender. 27 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:18,440 We are all the beneficiaries of this strong leadership of these women, including our town 28 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:23,400 and Azure Market page, the female directors of our staff, and all the women who serve 29 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:27,340 with such grace and humility to residents of our great town. 30 00:32:27,900 --> 00:32:32,260 We are grateful for their service, and we appreciate any women who serves in public office 31 00:32:32,260 --> 00:32:33,900 in our redest state and nation. 32 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,880 We thank all of you for doing a remarkable job. 33 00:32:37,500 --> 00:32:42,760 Finally, we pray that you always let us imagine a gender equal world, a role free of bias 34 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:47,400 year of shock, stereotypes, and discrimination, a world that has diverse, equitable, and 35 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:52,740 inclusive, and that we strive for a world where difference is valued and celebrated. 36 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:58,340 Together, we can forge women's equality, collectively, we can embrace equity. 37 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,640 Thank you. 38 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:03,520 All for able please stand and join in saying 39 00:33:10,090 --> 00:33:13,610 to the flag at the United States or America. 40 00:33:14,050 --> 00:33:16,690 I can do the Republic for which it stands. 41 00:33:16,990 --> 00:33:17,910 One nation. 42 00:33:19,730 --> 00:33:22,570 Invisible with liberty and justice for all. 43 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:29,720 Before you adopt tonight's agenda, 44 00:33:29,860 --> 00:33:34,380 town council policies to review and ensure there are no conflicts of interest or appearance of conflict of interest 45 00:33:34,380 --> 00:33:35,800 to any items on the board. 46 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:38,360 Anyone want to share anything at this time. 47 00:33:39,260 --> 00:33:41,820 to entertain the motion to adopt the seedlings agenda. 48 00:33:43,420 --> 00:33:44,480 Thank you. 49 00:33:44,500 --> 00:33:45,200 Thank you. 50 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,020 Thank you all for the favor of adopting the seedlings agenda. 51 00:33:47,180 --> 00:33:47,740 Please say aye. 52 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:48,640 Aye. 53 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:48,680 Aye. 54 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:49,300 And you're posed. 55 00:33:49,820 --> 00:33:51,140 Hearing none, that carries six zero. 56 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,500 There are six items on this evening's consent agenda. 57 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:56,460 Stormwater control measure agreement. 58 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,460 Resolutions adopting an ABA transition plan. 59 00:34:00,020 --> 00:34:02,200 Authorizing straight acceptance requires point. 60 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:03,720 and makes me farm some divisions. 61 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:05,900 A brainage easement of the endowment, 62 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:07,440 and a town council of 2023. 63 00:34:09,340 --> 00:34:09,660 It's important. 64 00:34:09,700 --> 00:34:11,060 We're sending one of the full key these items 65 00:34:11,060 --> 00:34:12,700 are about four motion. 66 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:15,360 Attention to the motion, we got the students. 67 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:17,060 It's time to get there. 68 00:34:17,860 --> 00:34:18,500 We'll take that motion. 69 00:34:18,700 --> 00:34:18,920 Sure. 70 00:34:19,500 --> 00:34:19,760 Okay. 71 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:20,000 That's it. 72 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:21,020 All those who have been busy with it. 73 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:22,040 Aye. 74 00:34:22,340 --> 00:34:22,820 And you're posed. 75 00:34:23,340 --> 00:34:24,540 I also carry tremendously. 76 00:34:24,980 --> 00:34:25,100 60. 77 00:34:26,060 --> 00:34:26,480 One. 78 00:34:26,580 --> 00:34:27,940 I'm interested in the report this evening. 79 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:29,600 A mobile application update. 80 00:34:29,860 --> 00:34:31,480 I'm interested in reports are reported 81 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,160 It is information only items in less counsel as questions. 82 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:35,800 I would like to ask you a question on this question. 83 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:40,140 Can you? 84 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,840 There are seven presentations on this issue as a agenda. 85 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:45,800 Proclamation is recognizing frequently, 86 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,320 say soil data, leading disorders awareness month, 87 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,320 women in public office day, and women's history month. 88 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,120 Up proposed mural program over you, 89 00:34:55,300 --> 00:34:56,680 and more as it'll spring fest update. 90 00:34:57,460 --> 00:34:58,760 I will make the first presentation. 91 00:34:59,740 --> 00:34:59,960 This is the process. 92 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:06,600 Information is recognizing Creek Leak as March 18 through 25, 2023. Whereas the first Creek Leak in central 93 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:11,980 North Carolina was observed in the city of Durham in 2009 and is now observed by many local 94 00:35:11,980 --> 00:35:16,380 governments across the state and whereas in addition to Creek Leak, many local governments 95 00:35:16,380 --> 00:35:21,500 and organizations across central and eastern North Carolina have conducted major cleanup efforts 96 00:35:21,500 --> 00:35:28,720 to remove trash in waterways and whereas regional Creek Leak Leak started by the North Carolina Clean 97 00:35:28,720 --> 00:35:34,220 Water Education Partnership in 2021 is a special week set aside where partnership, affiliated 98 00:35:34,220 --> 00:35:39,920 local governments, concurrently worked together to celebrate and store local creeks and streams. 99 00:35:40,720 --> 00:35:46,280 And whereas this impact could be greatly magnified through the collective efforts of additional 100 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:51,780 local governments, organizations and individuals working together to educate, about and protect 101 00:35:51,780 --> 00:35:58,000 our waterways, whereas creeks, streams, rivers, and other waterways support outdoor recreation, 102 00:35:58,660 --> 00:36:04,160 fisheries, healthy lifestyles, and safe drinking water supplies. And whereas healthy waterways 103 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:10,160 also support biodiversity, natural beauty, and provide critical habitat for aquatic wildlife. 104 00:36:10,820 --> 00:36:15,520 And whereas the town of Morrisville encourages all residents to celebrate quickly with a scheduled 105 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,420 of stream clean, brain marking, scavenger hunt, 106 00:36:18,540 --> 00:36:20,160 and educational outreach events. 107 00:36:20,620 --> 00:36:22,840 Now, therefore, the town council of town of Morrisville 108 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:27,420 does hereby recognize Mark 18, 23, as quick week 109 00:36:27,420 --> 00:36:29,280 in the town of Morrisville, North Carolina. 110 00:36:30,260 --> 00:36:32,200 And at this time, I'd like to ask our environmental 111 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,300 specialist, Tony Victor, to approach, 112 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,740 I'll present him this, and he can share some ideas 113 00:36:37,740 --> 00:36:40,480 about what's going on this up from week. 114 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:48,780 And then if you'd rather go to the day, that's fine. 115 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:54,020 Congratulations. Thanks for everything you do. You are on social media all the time. 116 00:36:56,970 --> 00:36:57,150 Okay. 117 00:37:04,980 --> 00:37:05,500 Back to Laura. 118 00:37:14,130 --> 00:37:15,890 Okay. There you go. Thank you very much. 119 00:37:26,730 --> 00:37:29,470 You're me, okay. So it's good. All right. 120 00:37:30,410 --> 00:37:35,490 Thank you. As Mayor said, not too many Victor environmental specialists in the storm water division of the engineering department. 121 00:37:36,250 --> 00:37:40,030 Thank you, town council, for giving me the opportunity to speak this evening. 122 00:37:40,030 --> 00:37:48,850 The NC Clean Water Education Partnership, also known as Quepp, has done this obviously for the past three years. 123 00:37:49,350 --> 00:37:54,190 Approximately 23 municipalities are participating this year. 124 00:37:54,890 --> 00:38:03,610 As a member of Quepp, and in conjunction with the Regional Event, Storm Water Division is hosting Morseville Creek Creek 2023, March 18 through 25. 125 00:38:03,610 --> 00:38:11,200 The purpose of Creek Week is to engage the public on the importance of clean and healthy 126 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:12,160 waterways. 127 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:18,760 Creek Week also helps us in more skill, meet our national illusion discharge elimination 128 00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:24,280 system, phase two permit that's issued by North Carolina Department of Environmental 129 00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:30,460 Quality, and is delegated by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency. 130 00:38:30,460 --> 00:38:37,460 More importantly, stewardship of storm water and our waterways is the right thing to do. 131 00:38:38,260 --> 00:38:40,460 Brought human history water connects us. 132 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:44,880 Live work and play in and near water. 133 00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:47,940 Water allows us to live connected and live well. 134 00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,640 Storm water that flows through and out of Morseville 135 00:38:53,640 --> 00:39:02,180 So, we'll pass through many North Carolina communities via the Newst River and the Cape 136 00:39:02,180 --> 00:39:05,320 Beer Watersheds on its way to the ocean. 137 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:12,180 It will flow in close proximity to more than 900,000 people along its way. 138 00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:17,820 I hope this stresses the importance of being good stewards of our waterways for more 139 00:39:17,820 --> 00:39:19,780 the residents and those downstream. 140 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:22,900 This year's quick, quick, quick, quick, quick events. 141 00:39:23,460 --> 00:39:24,680 It's hard to do, I know. 142 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,020 Well, stormwater drain marking events, 143 00:39:29,740 --> 00:39:34,200 five stream clean events, four public stormwater education booths 144 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:37,660 at the Western Wake Farmers Market, 145 00:39:38,260 --> 00:39:42,860 M-A-F-C, the Senior Center and Cedar for Community Center. 146 00:39:42,860 --> 00:39:50,820 We'll also be hosting two educational, hosting education tables and doing presentations for 147 00:39:50,820 --> 00:39:56,200 K through fifth graders at the Morrisville Community Library two nights next week. 148 00:39:57,100 --> 00:39:59,540 We'll be posting on Creek Week related information. 149 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:07,580 On our Facebook and Twitter, on our social media, that's at T.O.A.M. Stormwater. If you're not following us, please do. 150 00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:15,000 And we have 141 volunteers as of today signed up to participate in the various events. 151 00:40:16,260 --> 00:40:25,360 Though we thank you very much for your support for a week. Now we need your prayers, your positive vibes, and your good thoughts for cooperative weather. Thank you very much. 152 00:40:32,410 --> 00:40:38,450 So Tony why you're still in the room I want to make sure you hear this so we had 153 00:40:38,450 --> 00:40:49,590 recently a survey done and stormwater was part of the survey and our citizens were above 154 00:40:49,590 --> 00:40:55,390 average in understanding stormwater and what it meant and the ramifications and at the 155 00:40:55,390 --> 00:41:01,570 time we commented it is because of our staff and I would tell you it is because of you specifically 156 00:41:01,570 --> 00:41:06,610 and all the work you are doing working with the citizens and our advisory committee too. 157 00:41:07,210 --> 00:41:10,910 So thank you very much. You didn't hear those comments probably that night. I want to make sure 158 00:41:10,910 --> 00:41:17,150 you heard them tonight. So appreciate all that you do to educate our residents and all that you do. 159 00:41:17,350 --> 00:41:21,890 What are as critically important as you said. So thank you. 160 00:41:23,780 --> 00:41:26,640 Council Member Garamelo, we'll read the next proclamation. 161 00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:29,040 Thanks, Mayor. 162 00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:33,280 This is a proclamation recognizing safe soil day. 163 00:41:34,100 --> 00:41:38,820 Whereas conscious of the planet in a Tennessee non-profit corporation, 164 00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:42,680 whose mission is to make human activity more conscious 165 00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:46,060 to support environmental restoration and advance solutions 166 00:41:46,060 --> 00:41:48,980 to the urgent ecological crisis facing humanity. 167 00:41:48,980 --> 00:41:57,300 Founded in 2019 by Sadguru, conscious planet in its first initiative is the conscious planet 168 00:41:57,300 --> 00:42:03,300 safe soil movement and whereas Sadguru is a global leader and a visionary that was 169 00:42:03,300 --> 00:42:09,400 named as one of India's 50 most influential people. Sadguru has launched several initiatives 170 00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:14,620 over the years. powerful examples of bringing together all segments of the society to achieve 171 00:42:14,620 --> 00:42:20,900 system, system change, with lasting, sustainable solutions, and ecological and social issues. 172 00:42:21,300 --> 00:42:26,460 These initiatives are given at the support of the government, public figures, grassroot, 173 00:42:26,460 --> 00:42:31,880 organizations, and millions of people, and whereas, same soil is a global movement supported 174 00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:38,220 by 81 nations, uniting world leaders, visionaries, influencers, and citizens of all nations 175 00:42:38,220 --> 00:42:45,440 behind a common purpose to restore and safeguard the world's soil, and whereas save soil aims 176 00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:50,120 to address the global soil crisis, recognizing that 52 percent of the world's agriculture 177 00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:58,360 soil are already degraded, and by 2050, 90 percent of our soil could be degraded, addressing 178 00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:03,840 the soil degradation issue would bring a solution of the loss of biodiversity, nutritional 179 00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:09,360 efficiencies, food security, water scarcity, climate change, and mass migration. 180 00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:15,700 And whereas the proposed solution is to advocate for policies across all nations, towards 181 00:43:15,700 --> 00:43:20,980 soil restoration and aim, increase organic contents in agriculture soil and minimize 182 00:43:20,980 --> 00:43:23,440 to a minimum of three to six percent. 183 00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:30,960 Now, therefore, the town of council of the town of Marshall does here by proclaim March 21st 184 00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:34,200 as saved soil day in Marsal N.C. 185 00:43:34,240 --> 00:43:36,220 soil is vital to all life. 186 00:43:36,420 --> 00:43:39,940 So we urge all individuals to be a part of the saved soil movement 187 00:43:39,940 --> 00:43:43,300 and participate in creating bright futures for our children 188 00:43:43,300 --> 00:43:45,540 and the future of our planet. 189 00:43:48,060 --> 00:43:50,420 And at this time, I would like to ask Suresh, 190 00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:54,140 who is a volunteer with the saved soil condition 191 00:43:54,140 --> 00:43:58,200 to come to the podium along with other volunteers. 192 00:43:58,200 --> 00:43:59,100 I 193 00:44:25,470 --> 00:44:28,610 just want to thank you, 194 00:44:31,750 --> 00:44:33,430 this and also how 195 00:44:37,240 --> 00:44:40,260 this approach to come up to this thing. 196 00:44:40,540 --> 00:44:43,980 I just want to say, please visit the website. 197 00:44:47,380 --> 00:44:48,800 A lot of information is there. 198 00:45:11,580 --> 00:45:12,300 This 199 00:45:17,930 --> 00:45:21,090 time comes in morale. We'll read the next proclamation, please. 200 00:45:22,270 --> 00:45:27,710 This is a proclamation recognizing pleading disorders where it is marked. Whereas the town of 201 00:45:27,710 --> 00:45:34,370 Morrisville is proud to commemorate March 2023 as pleading disorders where it is marked. This designation 202 00:45:34,370 --> 00:45:40,650 will formalize and expand upon the designation of March 1986 as hemophilia awareness marked. 203 00:45:40,650 --> 00:45:45,370 President Ronald Reagan, and the federal Department of Health and Human Services designation, 204 00:45:46,150 --> 00:45:53,750 of March 2016, as national bleeding disorders month, and we're as these bleeding disorders 205 00:45:53,750 --> 00:45:58,790 which share the inability to form a proper blood clot or characterized by extended bleeding 206 00:45:58,790 --> 00:46:04,990 after injury, surgery, trauma, or menstruation, and can lead to a significant morbidity and can be fatal 207 00:46:04,990 --> 00:46:09,950 have not treated effectively. Now, we're asked many individuals with hemophilia became 208 00:46:09,950 --> 00:46:15,270 effective with HIV and hepatitis C in the 1980s because the contamination of blood supply 209 00:46:15,270 --> 00:46:19,830 and blood products. Now, we're asked this awareness month, we'll generate greater awareness 210 00:46:19,830 --> 00:46:25,030 and understanding of not only hemophilia, but all the heritable bleeding disorders, including 211 00:46:25,030 --> 00:46:31,010 bond, full of brand disease, which alone impacts an estimated 1% of the U.S. population 212 00:46:31,010 --> 00:46:36,930 more than 3.2 million individuals, whereas this awareness month will foster a greater 213 00:46:36,930 --> 00:46:41,550 sense of community and shared purpose among individuals with all inheritable 214 00:46:41,550 --> 00:46:47,110 bleeding disorders, and whereas this awareness month will elevate awareness of an 215 00:46:47,110 --> 00:46:51,370 engagement in the inheritable bleeding disorders journey beyond our community to the 216 00:46:51,370 --> 00:46:55,530 general public enabling the prevention of illness unnecessary procedures in 217 00:46:56,390 --> 00:47:01,070 Now, therefore, the town council of the town of Morseville does hereby proclaim the month 218 00:47:01,070 --> 00:47:06,030 of March, 2023, as bleeding disorders awareness month of the town of Morseville. 219 00:47:06,310 --> 00:47:08,950 After this 14-day March, 2023, 220 00:47:12,170 --> 00:47:13,970 Mayor Potem Johnson will read the next proclamation. 221 00:47:14,870 --> 00:47:18,870 So, this proclamation is celebrating women in public office stay. 222 00:47:19,430 --> 00:47:25,190 Whereas the month of March is women's history month and celebrates the significant contributions, 223 00:47:25,190 --> 00:47:31,970 women of all races, ethnicities, and backgrounds have made to the world, and whereas women play 224 00:47:31,970 --> 00:47:38,430 a critical role in the vitality and diversity of our communities, and are essential to ensuring 225 00:47:38,430 --> 00:47:43,950 the town of Morrisville as well represented. And whereas while the 20th century was a pivotal 226 00:47:43,950 --> 00:47:51,190 time of growth for women entering politics, women reign underrepresented in male-dominated fields 227 00:47:51,190 --> 00:47:56,510 and thus providing opportunities to support women in public office isn't carried. 228 00:47:57,370 --> 00:48:01,870 And whereas recognizing women in public office will bring awareness to the fundamental 229 00:48:01,870 --> 00:48:08,090 necessity of their work and will inspire other young people to serve their communities. 230 00:48:09,150 --> 00:48:14,410 Now, therefore, the town council of the town of Warsaw does here by proclaim March 19th, 231 00:48:15,210 --> 00:48:21,170 2023 as women in public office day and call upon the people of Morseville to unite as we 232 00:48:21,170 --> 00:48:27,130 support the success of women in public office and observe every March 19th with appropriate 233 00:48:27,130 --> 00:48:29,270 activities events and programs. 234 00:48:31,230 --> 00:48:31,550 Thank you. 235 00:48:31,790 --> 00:48:34,730 Council Member Rebody will read tonight's final proclamation. 236 00:48:36,540 --> 00:48:39,380 Reclamation declaring marches women's history month. 237 00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:44,780 Whereas American women of every race class and ethnic background have made historic contributions 238 00:48:44,780 --> 00:48:49,700 to the growth and strength of our nation in countless recorded and unrecorded ways. 239 00:48:49,700 --> 00:49:05,800 And whereas American women have played and continued to play a critical economic, cultural, and social role in every sphere of life of the nation by constituting a significant portion of the volunteered labor force working inside and outside of the home. 240 00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:16,340 And whereas American women were particularly important in the establishment of early charitable, philanthropic and cultural institutions in our nation. 241 00:49:16,340 --> 00:49:30,660 And whereas American women have served our country politically and militarily, and whereas American women of every race, class, and ethnic backgrounds served as early leaders in the forefront of every major progressive social change movement. 242 00:49:31,380 --> 00:49:42,320 And whereas despite these contributions, the role of American women in history has been consistently overlooked and undervalued in the literature, teaching and study of American history. 243 00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:50,000 Now, before the town council, with the town of Morrisville, does hear by proclaim March as Women's History Month in Morrisville. 244 00:49:50,380 --> 00:49:54,480 And urge us all to celebrate with appropriate programs, ceremonies, and activities. 245 00:49:55,500 --> 00:49:59,880 We also invite residents to visit www.Wimmins History Month. 246 00:50:14,720 --> 00:50:15,240 I'm 247 00:50:26,720 --> 00:50:27,240 glad 248 00:50:37,710 --> 00:50:53,370 to be here with you all this evening giving up date regarding the meal program. I have some good information here for you all, so hopefully if you can just hold your questions until the end and maybe I'll have them address by the end. 249 00:50:59,210 --> 00:51:04,450 presentation over you. So the proposed mirror program is just one component as you all know of the 250 00:51:04,450 --> 00:51:10,130 feature public art program. It's envisioned as a pilot for the public art initiative. 251 00:51:11,090 --> 00:51:16,930 This presentation will focus on the current and plan steps for a pose mirror program and highlight the 252 00:51:16,930 --> 00:51:20,250 steps that we made towards facilitating public art. 253 00:51:23,290 --> 00:51:25,390 As you all know, I present to you all in December 254 00:51:25,390 --> 00:51:31,710 on the Darkteam. We talked about the overall program, as well as the proposed evaluation process, 255 00:51:32,250 --> 00:51:36,170 and you also selected the first three mural locations, and we also talked about theme. 256 00:51:37,230 --> 00:51:41,130 On January 25th, I presented to you the Parks Recreation and Cultural Resources 257 00:51:41,130 --> 00:51:45,490 Advisory Committee. I provided an overview of the program research and findings, 258 00:51:45,650 --> 00:51:49,190 and also an overview of their proposed role as you all define in your meeting. 259 00:51:52,860 --> 00:51:56,740 Now that we've kind of covered that, we'll go over the full chart once again, so there are six steps 260 00:51:56,740 --> 00:52:00,500 in our program. The first step was research. We researched established 261 00:52:00,500 --> 00:52:05,180 mural programs and assessed the approval framework as well as assessed the 262 00:52:05,180 --> 00:52:09,760 assurance and weaknesses of those existing programs. Step two was cleaning. We 263 00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:14,480 formed a multi-departmental mural program, advisory committee rather, and 264 00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:18,440 that consisted of staff from planning, public works, communications, and 265 00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:23,680 parks and recreation. The third step was framework development. We established 266 00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:29,500 of your program framework, so that entailed identifying your installation locations, designing 267 00:52:29,500 --> 00:52:33,780 and approval process, and identifying potential UDO updates. 268 00:52:36,030 --> 00:52:39,970 Our first step is pilot program finalization, and that's our current step. 269 00:52:40,690 --> 00:52:47,190 So we are looking at seismic evaluation, also looking at including cost estimates updating 270 00:52:47,190 --> 00:52:50,330 you all once again, requesting funds, recommending, 271 00:52:50,470 --> 00:52:51,910 and adopting UDO amendments. 272 00:52:53,090 --> 00:52:57,590 And again, it's a great place where we are right now, 273 00:52:57,730 --> 00:53:00,050 because we're able to kind of really get that framework 274 00:53:00,050 --> 00:53:01,830 and get everything finalized. 275 00:53:02,230 --> 00:53:03,290 So let me find it to be here with you. 276 00:53:03,970 --> 00:53:06,090 So the fifth step would be implementation. 277 00:53:06,950 --> 00:53:10,130 And so we will be issuing an RSP, 278 00:53:10,410 --> 00:53:12,510 as well as reviewing those proposals 279 00:53:12,510 --> 00:53:13,970 and then selecting your list. 280 00:53:14,690 --> 00:53:17,070 The sixth and final step, I think it's the most exciting. 281 00:53:17,070 --> 00:53:19,390 I think for all of us, which will be installation. 282 00:53:23,220 --> 00:53:24,520 So now that we've had that overview, 283 00:53:24,740 --> 00:53:27,180 let's kind of recap what you all provided 284 00:53:27,180 --> 00:53:29,080 has gotten so less time. 285 00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:32,080 So you also like to the first three locations, 286 00:53:32,860 --> 00:53:35,460 those locations were fire admin, 287 00:53:35,580 --> 00:53:38,940 as well as MFAC and the Shiloh Park Restaurant Building. 288 00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:43,400 Again, we finalized the approval process. 289 00:53:43,780 --> 00:53:45,520 We have the committee, you can form 290 00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:48,660 some of staffs of planning, public works, 291 00:53:48,660 --> 00:53:53,660 communication in parts and recreation. We also identify the first relocations for installation 292 00:53:53,660 --> 00:54:00,220 as you all decided and also theme. Our next step will be to release the RSP, then the 293 00:54:00,220 --> 00:54:04,460 parts recreation and cultural resources advisory committee will review those RSP submittals 294 00:54:04,460 --> 00:54:10,340 and then recommend to you all prefer a mirrorless design for each location. And then once again 295 00:54:10,340 --> 00:54:16,940 you all will select the final design for each location. Next we will award contracts and then finally 296 00:54:16,940 --> 00:54:18,260 commission the murals. 297 00:54:20,550 --> 00:54:22,530 As for theme selection, murals 298 00:54:22,530 --> 00:54:25,950 needs will be provided to artists by staff. This was based on 299 00:54:25,950 --> 00:54:30,430 you all feedback. The themes will vary by location for instance, 300 00:54:30,610 --> 00:54:34,770 the Shialo restaurant building could be based on the location's history, 301 00:54:35,070 --> 00:54:37,750 other locations could be guided completely by mirrorless creativity. 302 00:54:42,130 --> 00:54:46,650 Now let's kind of go over our current steps. The RSP is being drafted, 303 00:54:47,170 --> 00:54:51,630 the outline currently includes goals. Our goals have been identified as to 304 00:54:51,630 --> 00:54:59,950 First to activate and enhance the cultural connectivity and vitality of the town of Morrisville through engaging artwork and creative place making of 305 00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:06,420 Also to honor the town's history, natural beauty, and cultural heritage. And also to provide an opportunity for public engagement. 306 00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:17,320 Our objectives would be to create a mural that is colorful, inspiring to residents and visitors, and to create a mural that reflects the unique, unique characteristics of the town for a civil. 307 00:55:20,150 --> 00:55:25,890 The selection process, there are kind of two steps here. The first step will select up to four finalists. 308 00:55:25,890 --> 00:55:45,730 We'll be selected by the Parks and Culture Resources Advisory Committee, and they will then create a site-specific design based on artistic accomplishments as well as that they are demonstrating with their prior works that they have technical skills as well as comparable skills of path works. 309 00:55:45,730 --> 00:55:55,650 Also, we're looking at the fact that they have had some sort of collaboration maybe with multiple stakeholders and working with design teams and projects in urban settings. 310 00:55:56,550 --> 00:56:05,350 We also would like them to demonstrate the ability to create artwork that reflects the distinctest characteristics of a place as well as the ability to complete projects on time within budget. 311 00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:12,720 That too, the Parks and Rights Cultural Resources Advisory Committee will then recommend to 312 00:56:12,720 --> 00:56:17,760 town council, the final design selections for artists and artists team, and then you all 313 00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:22,700 will then make your decisions based on artistic narrative design, appropriateness of design 314 00:56:22,700 --> 00:56:26,840 for location, including scale, content, color, and design. 315 00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:31,920 I want to make sure that the concept reflects the state of goals of the project as well as 316 00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:35,120 artists who call out qualifications and the originality of the design. 317 00:56:38,770 --> 00:56:41,430 We're also looking at proposed UDO amendments. 318 00:56:41,610 --> 00:56:43,110 They're being drafted as well. 319 00:56:43,630 --> 00:56:46,810 We want to first define a mural and differ that from signage. 320 00:56:47,010 --> 00:56:51,010 That will be in update to our terms and uses defined. 321 00:56:51,410 --> 00:56:55,730 We'll also be allowing painting on brick in cases of public art. 322 00:56:56,570 --> 00:56:59,210 And so that'll be through the approved process and program. 323 00:57:00,130 --> 00:57:03,830 And then lastly, we want to make sure that we incorporate public art installation 324 00:57:03,830 --> 00:57:07,650 into the town center and part of West Village Planned Development Academics. 325 00:57:08,990 --> 00:57:16,130 Also, a private presentation I wanted to highlight existing UDL language that helps us facilitate and allows public art. 326 00:57:16,390 --> 00:57:28,130 First, we do define art within the UDL that can be a fountain or a sculpture or other similar objects that are cited on a development site as a focal point and intended for a public enjoyment. 327 00:57:28,730 --> 00:57:31,650 That can be located on both private and public property. 328 00:57:31,650 --> 00:57:36,730 Also, our open states, design standards allow for architectural design features such as 329 00:57:36,730 --> 00:57:44,650 sculptures, order elements, carvings, frescas, you have mavesates and mobiles as well, and 330 00:57:44,650 --> 00:57:48,610 also, we allow decorative shelters for transit riders. 331 00:57:48,970 --> 00:57:51,350 This is all subject to the common open space standard. 332 00:57:52,450 --> 00:58:03,260 I also want to highlight that art is currently allowed as a accessory used within all 333 00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:10,720 One, we are actively doing research to make sure that we are ready with our site-specific 334 00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:14,420 details that would be location on the facade of those murals and as well as staffing. 335 00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:17,360 We're also looking at budget and cost analysis. 336 00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:23,700 So, the program is currently unfunded, however, the fiscal year 24 budget request includes 337 00:58:23,700 --> 00:58:24,480 the pilot program. 338 00:58:25,020 --> 00:58:29,400 We're looking at our stipend, which could range anywhere from 5 to 12,000. 339 00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:34,180 that will be predicated on size, the artists will have to utilize this stipending to purchase 340 00:58:34,180 --> 00:58:41,000 all pain and all required supplies in order to turn that mirror into us. 341 00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:47,820 And then the next thing would be a finalist incentive rather, so typically when you have 342 00:58:47,820 --> 00:58:50,960 our artists come up with something site specific, you want to make sure that you compensate 343 00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:55,160 them for the time and energy that they did to put that together. 344 00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:58,360 And so that will range anywhere from $250 to $500. 345 00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:02,820 We got to get the head there. 346 00:59:04,940 --> 00:59:08,860 We're also looking at working with community initiatives like United Arts School 347 00:59:08,860 --> 00:59:11,100 that help with monetary support for such projects. 348 00:59:11,260 --> 00:59:14,860 Again, they have their arts and towns grant that we're currently looking at. 349 00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:19,320 And also, I just want to remind you all these artists and they are such a change. 350 00:59:22,350 --> 00:59:23,870 So a couple continue next steps. 351 00:59:23,890 --> 00:59:28,250 The next thing we will do is adopt the UDL amendments and then issue the RSP, 352 00:59:28,250 --> 00:59:33,990 Parks and Writes, cultural resources, advisory committee will then review those RFP submittals 353 00:59:33,990 --> 00:59:39,910 and then the program, you know, once we have those designs, you all will select the final design. 354 00:59:40,610 --> 00:59:46,710 Staff will also actively be working towards evaluating options for the future public art program, 355 00:59:46,870 --> 00:59:51,270 which includes, you know, signing long-term maintenance and management and massage fillies of the program. 356 00:59:51,810 --> 00:59:55,070 I also want to highlight that you all will be getting updates within the news and notes section. 357 00:59:56,410 --> 00:59:57,490 So, here we go. 358 00:59:58,310 --> 00:59:59,970 That kind of concludes all the information now. 359 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:05,400 I have for you all with an update, but if you have any questions for me, I would like to do my best to address them. 360 01:00:08,900 --> 01:00:10,800 I want to give the opportunity to have 361 01:00:20,180 --> 01:00:22,820 questions from the side of the area, really great. 362 01:00:25,820 --> 01:00:31,680 At the end of the briefing, there's also a more specific part of the shelter area in the classroom. 363 01:00:32,460 --> 01:00:36,300 I don't know if there's any playground there. 364 01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:41,640 That one is selected when we're going to talk to you with fire admin, humidity, and shallow park. 365 01:00:45,980 --> 01:00:48,880 We can definitely put that on the lift. 366 01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:55,820 Just so I'm clear, so there might be more than one artist, two or a year old, so it's not just one artist doing all three. 367 01:00:56,100 --> 01:01:01,280 Yeah, so it can be one artist or a multiple artist, one for each design. 368 01:01:01,780 --> 01:01:06,460 Also, we are looking at the, you can have a team of artists that will completely design it for. 369 01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:08,800 One individual. 370 01:01:11,020 --> 01:01:12,900 That's wonderful, Councilmember Alps. 371 01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:18,880 You might have already mentioned this, but the artist's limited to, like, professional artists 372 01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:22,900 are going to be, like, youth artists, younger artists living in our town. 373 01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:24,780 They can be at least involved in the process. 374 01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:28,940 I think that they could be involved in the process of part of an artist's team, 375 01:01:29,300 --> 01:01:32,740 but one of the qualifications is having places that there's someone that has 376 01:01:32,740 --> 01:01:35,500 done some work comparable to what we're asking them to complete. 377 01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:52,000 That's the plan. 378 01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:54,440 Thank you so much. 379 01:01:54,660 --> 01:01:57,280 Will Glenn, our communications and outreach director 380 01:01:57,280 --> 01:01:59,860 and Anderson marketing and defense specialist 381 01:01:59,860 --> 01:02:02,160 will facilitate the final presentation of these. 382 01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:11,840 Good evening. 383 01:02:12,180 --> 01:02:13,660 Will Glenn, communication and outreach director. 384 01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:18,060 We are about two months away now from my next Spring Festival event. 385 01:02:18,500 --> 01:02:20,520 Just wanted to come by and give you a nice update. 386 01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:26,220 I'm going to yield to a marketing event specialist, Miss Lennett, Anderson, to lead the presentation. 387 01:02:45,940 --> 01:02:46,880 All right, thank you, little. 388 01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:49,300 Hi, everyone. Again, my name is Lennett. 389 01:02:57,060 --> 01:02:57,620 It's here. 390 01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:16,140 It looks forward to and everyone looks forward 391 01:03:19,980 --> 01:03:20,180 to. 392 01:03:20,180 --> 01:03:21,220 Thank you, Eric. 393 01:03:28,990 --> 01:03:36,190 Okay, so this year's event is going to be on Saturday May 13th from 4 to 8 PM. 394 01:03:36,190 --> 01:03:41,230 We are looking at a new layout this year. 395 01:03:42,090 --> 01:03:45,190 We typically have Springfest right in front of our building 396 01:03:45,190 --> 01:03:46,830 on 100 town hall drive. 397 01:03:47,170 --> 01:03:50,970 But we are looking to move the stage 398 01:03:50,970 --> 01:03:54,770 to the food hub and help this year 399 01:03:54,770 --> 01:03:58,330 and add some more interactive elements to it. 400 01:03:58,450 --> 01:04:01,030 We typically have our main music stage 401 01:04:01,030 --> 01:04:05,130 at the intersection of kind of town hall drive 402 01:04:05,130 --> 01:04:06,810 in Indian Creek Trailhead. 403 01:04:06,870 --> 01:04:08,270 We normally have it there, 404 01:04:08,710 --> 01:04:10,390 but we're gonna move it this year. 405 01:04:10,870 --> 01:04:13,570 We want to give it even a different field, 406 01:04:14,030 --> 01:04:15,990 then we do at July 3rd, 407 01:04:16,030 --> 01:04:20,550 and we also want to capitalize on the upcoming 408 01:04:22,170 --> 01:04:25,350 Town Center Project and getting people interested 409 01:04:25,350 --> 01:04:28,790 in interested in this area and getting more familiar 410 01:04:28,790 --> 01:04:30,630 with this end of Town Hall Drive. 411 01:04:35,100 --> 01:04:37,600 Our layout is, again, 412 01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:43,520 Right in the front of town hall drive in the connected building, we have food trucks, about 413 01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:44,960 eight food trucks already, 414 01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:52,320 a small business outreach component that's going to be in front 415 01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:59,800 of the chamber building and also have the opportunity for our town to have department tables and 416 01:05:00,180 --> 01:05:14,080 Right in front of the connector building, that's always been really helpful and really interactive, so all of our departments have the opportunity to come and set up tables to promote their programs and be in front of the public. 417 01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:27,240 Right now, we already have Parks and Rec, stormwater inspections and planning as a part of the town tents. So we look forward to adding more as the event goes long. 418 01:05:27,240 --> 01:05:36,380 We do have inflatable rides and games, as you may remember we have tickets that are for sale as well. 419 01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:43,900 So our ticketing tables will be in front of the connector building, and we typically have two locations. 420 01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:53,880 And our games provider brings everything from inflatable slides to carnival games that you would find, kind of at the fair. 421 01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:58,580 And he also has inflatables that he puts inside of Indian Creek. 422 01:05:59,300 --> 01:06:03,160 So all of that is part of the inflables for the now. 423 01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:10,940 If you can see on our layout, we have something that's called edu-tainment. 424 01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:14,780 So this is typically where the stage has been. 425 01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:20,580 And for this year what I'm looking to do is trying to find more educational entertainment 426 01:06:20,580 --> 01:06:28,680 for our children's area. I like to call this, the children's area. We are looking at getting 427 01:06:28,680 --> 01:06:35,300 more hands on activities. We've contacted the library to see if they would be willing to come out 428 01:06:35,300 --> 01:06:43,520 and do some entertainment because that is what we're looking for to fill this space and we'll also 429 01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:49,900 have a DJ in this area because we want to bring again more sound and more music and more entertainment 430 01:06:49,900 --> 01:06:54,420 to this area because we are picking up the stage and moving it to a different location. 431 01:07:00,980 --> 01:07:08,900 We will, of course, have multiple Porter Johns at the event. We are working to have 432 01:07:08,900 --> 01:07:16,640 make sure that our shuttle locations have accurate, but making sure that our shuttle locations have 433 01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:24,690 accurate pick up and drop off locations. We typically shut the road down at the intersection 434 01:07:24,690 --> 01:07:31,450 of Morrisville Carpenter and at the traffic circle, we have shuttle buses that will run from 435 01:07:31,450 --> 01:07:36,750 cedar fork community center and drop off the traffic circle and also have shuttle buses that 436 01:07:36,750 --> 01:07:43,650 drop off pick up from the district park and drop off at the intersection of town hall, drive 437 01:07:43,650 --> 01:07:50,290 in Morrisville Carpenter. That is going to be a big help now that the construction is finished because 438 01:07:50,290 --> 01:07:56,590 actually have a huge intersection now that our buses can actually turn and make a 439 01:07:56,590 --> 01:08:02,250 U-turn and go back to the district park and we of course are working with fire to make sure 440 01:08:02,250 --> 01:08:08,950 that we have one lane of traffic to go through each through the intersection as well as help our 441 01:08:08,950 --> 01:08:18,310 bus make a loop and go back. So we're excited about that. We're also working internally to 442 01:08:18,310 --> 01:08:24,610 have police and fire and public work staff to help us throughout the day. I will say that spring 443 01:08:24,610 --> 01:08:30,430 Fest is one of those events that kind of touches all departments. We need inspections to help with 444 01:08:31,190 --> 01:08:40,610 our tint. We need public works to help on site with the gator. We need and closing the roads now for 445 01:08:40,610 --> 01:08:47,370 barricades. So spring Fest is kind of me but it's actually everybody that kind of helps me out for this event. 446 01:08:47,370 --> 01:09:05,390 So thank you guys for that for sure and we've already had one meeting and after this meeting and more discussions and more talks will have another meeting just to finalize our layout and bring everybody together to make sure that we're all on the same page. 447 01:09:05,390 --> 01:09:17,630 One of the other components that we are again looking to add at the pilot this year is to add a bit of a beer garden to the event. 448 01:09:18,530 --> 01:09:22,790 We get asked most of the time during the event. 449 01:09:23,630 --> 01:09:33,030 And afterwards, those social media if we have beer or if there is a section for where people can listen to music and have a beer. 450 01:09:33,030 --> 01:09:41,690 And we've done research in local municipalities about other events that have beer, and they have been popular. 451 01:09:42,770 --> 01:09:49,010 But we also found that it's up to us to charge the vendor to come out. 452 01:09:49,450 --> 01:09:53,070 And every vendor that we spoke to doesn't have a problem. 453 01:09:53,530 --> 01:09:59,830 So it would be no cost to us, but we would ask the vendor to come and pay. 454 01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:10,860 We're basically a rental fee to come and be a part of our event, because it's not so much of we think that this is going to be a rock star event for them to make a ton of beer sales. 455 01:10:11,040 --> 01:10:22,000 It's basically kind of like a marketing opportunity for them. So they would be paying us to come out and get their product in front of our audience. 456 01:10:24,850 --> 01:10:30,430 a couple of the events that I've looked at were a fest in the West, the 457 01:10:30,430 --> 01:10:35,030 Cuegrass Festival, and actually Lazy Days in Peak Fest. 458 01:10:35,690 --> 01:10:43,450 And it was just trying to get an understanding of what other municipalities are doing and what 459 01:10:43,450 --> 01:10:44,210 they think. 460 01:10:45,010 --> 01:10:47,990 So I think that it would be a good ad. 461 01:10:49,550 --> 01:10:53,930 And being as though this is the first year that we're trying this again, it's not something 462 01:10:53,930 --> 01:10:59,550 that we think that we're going to make a ton of money off of, but we just want to see how it goes, 463 01:10:59,750 --> 01:11:06,710 see how the community feels about it, and then we'll process that and take it to other 464 01:11:06,710 --> 01:11:10,630 events, maybe, or see how we go and how everyone feels about it. 465 01:11:22,720 --> 01:11:29,000 In addition to the beer garden, we will have it in a confined space, so we won't have it in 466 01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:35,960 space where the kids are per se, it's going to be in that food hub area and within the food 467 01:11:35,960 --> 01:11:43,700 hub area, we'll have a 20 by 20 space. We'll mark off that people can come in and out of, 468 01:11:43,860 --> 01:11:48,340 but they'll have to keep their beverage in that confined area and they won't be able to come 469 01:11:48,340 --> 01:11:53,220 outside of it. So it's close enough to the music where they can stay in the confined area and 470 01:11:53,220 --> 01:11:58,940 but not necessarily have to come out and interact or be around kids. 471 01:12:07,460 --> 01:12:11,780 We have a couple of different options for parking for the event, 472 01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:19,820 and it's not marked here, but we typically have handicapped accessible parking here in Town Hall, 473 01:12:20,200 --> 01:12:27,080 and at our Cedar Park district park location and at the school. 474 01:12:27,080 --> 01:12:30,480 So we'll have handicapped parking at both locations, 475 01:12:30,720 --> 01:12:35,060 but we try to definitely have some here in town hall. 476 01:12:35,500 --> 01:12:37,440 And a lot of times people who need it, 477 01:12:37,480 --> 01:12:39,980 they'll just come and they'll ask one of the officers 478 01:12:39,980 --> 01:12:42,360 to let them in a lot or show a hang tag 479 01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:44,020 and we can let them in that way. 480 01:12:51,540 --> 01:12:55,280 Guys, have any other questions about any new elements 481 01:12:55,280 --> 01:12:57,140 or the new elements or springfest? 482 01:12:57,320 --> 01:12:59,840 And again, this is still a work in progress 483 01:12:59,840 --> 01:13:01,360 and we're still a couple of months out, 484 01:13:01,420 --> 01:13:04,020 so I don't have anything like the exact name 485 01:13:04,020 --> 01:13:08,650 the band, but we're still looking a bit, book bands, and some entertainment for the day two. 486 01:13:10,970 --> 01:13:11,470 Body, please. 487 01:13:12,010 --> 01:13:17,030 Can you refresh my memory on what the tickets relate to the people by? 488 01:13:17,950 --> 01:13:22,090 So the tickets are for the actual games and the inflatables. 489 01:13:22,570 --> 01:13:27,470 So our rides vendor, he comes out and he provides those carnival style games. 490 01:13:27,510 --> 01:13:31,980 And they're normally one ticket and a one dollar for one game. 491 01:13:32,780 --> 01:13:37,500 past years, we've done about $3,000 and take it sales. 492 01:13:39,980 --> 01:13:47,460 I would really like it if there was some way that families, I mean, I know it's only 493 01:13:48,220 --> 01:13:53,550 but I'm back in the day that would have been too much for my parents. 494 01:13:54,390 --> 01:13:59,930 So I would really like it if we could figure out some way that there could be either families 495 01:13:59,930 --> 01:14:06,030 to town hall beforehand if they want to pick up a book of tickets, it doesn't have to be that much. 496 01:14:06,790 --> 01:14:14,290 You know, like three or four tickets, ten tickets, something like that where if there's a family that, you know, that wants to come, 497 01:14:14,990 --> 01:14:20,310 then I would like it if everybody had a chance to ride the ride with their face painting whenever the DMS. 498 01:14:21,150 --> 01:14:24,230 Just something, you know, I just think that's something we should always be thinking about. 499 01:14:24,390 --> 01:14:27,490 This is an amazing event. Everyone is going to want to come to it. 500 01:14:27,490 --> 01:14:31,510 And I just want to would like us making sure that every family is having the same experience. 501 01:14:31,910 --> 01:14:33,570 Okay, thank you. I'll definitely write that down. 502 01:14:34,930 --> 01:14:35,990 I'll remember Garamela, please. 503 01:14:36,790 --> 01:14:40,010 Yeah, I think we all look forward for Spring Festival. 504 01:14:42,550 --> 01:14:43,850 I'd like to push over to Hanypah. 505 01:14:46,430 --> 01:14:47,990 Hanypah, Hanypah, Hanypah parking. 506 01:14:50,990 --> 01:14:59,930 But if we can't have it, because I don't want it to like they come and 507 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:05,080 The parking is full, so they don't know about it. And that could create some kind of 508 01:15:08,060 --> 01:15:19,050 parking spots, they have. And so, okay, at least, you know, signups and give them the pass or something that would be much better. 509 01:15:19,130 --> 01:15:20,710 Control, then, like, 510 01:15:23,800 --> 01:15:27,680 party, so we don't know our capacity, so it would be, like, 511 01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:30,460 Boston for us. I think that's what carried us to, like, you know. 512 01:15:39,840 --> 01:15:42,860 Okay, I'll definitely write that down as well. 513 01:15:45,930 --> 01:15:47,070 Question about the parking. 514 01:15:47,830 --> 01:15:51,470 Is it possible people will use the grassy lot over a first Baptist? 515 01:15:51,970 --> 01:15:55,170 Because a lot of times they do, whether or not we have arranged it or not. 516 01:15:57,750 --> 01:15:59,930 Okay, yeah, we can definitely get in front of it. 517 01:16:00,110 --> 01:16:04,950 We haven't typically done that in these past years. 518 01:16:05,470 --> 01:16:08,030 Maybe in year one or two, we did, but we haven't. 519 01:16:08,030 --> 01:16:17,290 So we can make that priority in our messaging that people should not park there for short because I don't think that we need it right now 520 01:16:17,290 --> 01:16:27,070 Because we have a lot of parking at the district park and we are trying to get more shuttle buses to run at this event in July 3rd 521 01:16:27,570 --> 01:16:37,070 So we can move more people quickly. So I think that that may help also. So we'll definitely put that in our marketing and messaging to not park a lot 522 01:16:37,070 --> 01:16:39,030 because we wanted to do good neighbors. 523 01:16:40,390 --> 01:16:42,710 I'll end up mentioned that the buses 524 01:16:42,710 --> 01:16:43,910 have been able to turn around easier, 525 01:16:44,250 --> 01:16:45,890 but also with the construction completed, 526 01:16:46,250 --> 01:16:48,930 their sidewalks, so everyone can walk here. 527 01:16:50,170 --> 01:16:52,630 We're at Morrisville Parkway, and up at Savannah, 528 01:16:52,730 --> 01:16:56,330 and everything, so I have a lot more walking this time, 529 01:16:56,430 --> 01:16:57,930 which will really make it really nice. 530 01:16:58,590 --> 01:17:01,050 About the size of the 20 by 20, 531 01:17:01,710 --> 01:17:03,330 I think that it's going to be really popular. 532 01:17:04,070 --> 01:17:11,310 But the bigger thing is something that is a big mess there or some seeding. 533 01:17:12,610 --> 01:17:14,650 That will be very busy area. 534 01:17:15,330 --> 01:17:17,010 We want to figure out how to do it. 535 01:17:17,030 --> 01:17:22,110 Just because we're doing a rental fee, but then the vendor is charging people. 536 01:17:22,810 --> 01:17:24,530 All the car for their items. 537 01:17:24,910 --> 01:17:25,830 That's right. 538 01:17:26,510 --> 01:17:27,410 Ash or credit cards. 539 01:17:27,710 --> 01:17:28,350 That will be correct. 540 01:17:28,590 --> 01:17:32,790 And again, we'll put that in our marketing and our messaging for the event. 541 01:17:32,790 --> 01:17:38,430 But again, it's not our key, it's not the main thing that we're going to try to sell at this event, 542 01:17:38,470 --> 01:17:45,470 but we'll have enough signage there, and we'll have it on our website and on our marketing to make sure people know that it will be available. 543 01:17:46,290 --> 01:17:56,630 The vendor that we've used for carnival games, they've always been very great and I'm surprised, and I was going to go into those cars now, so I'm really going to go back very much with you. 544 01:17:56,850 --> 01:18:00,470 We don't have it once again. I wasn't sure who's first over here. I can't remember. 545 01:18:01,190 --> 01:18:02,530 Ralph, I hope I can submit to the vendor, please. 546 01:18:02,930 --> 01:18:06,050 Yeah, just to follow up on the channels, just wherever we can. 547 01:18:06,070 --> 01:18:12,190 I know it's the last July for the event of, you know, some people are visiting me and they say it's just a lot of time. 548 01:18:12,190 --> 01:18:16,470 the shadows, that was the problem was the problem was the problem was the problem was the 549 01:18:16,470 --> 01:18:21,450 problem was the concerns about I saw a police really challenge and people coming too close 550 01:18:21,450 --> 01:18:26,490 to the road so many people. So hopefully that won't be so bad because of the sidewalks, 551 01:18:26,570 --> 01:18:31,550 but whatever we can do to make sure that these shadows are on schedule so that, you know, 552 01:18:31,970 --> 01:18:36,870 because that the last July 4, that's the print past, there were so many people coming that 553 01:18:36,870 --> 01:18:41,770 people were waiting a long time to get the shadows. So this is, you know, hopefully we can 554 01:18:41,770 --> 01:18:45,550 best thing. Okay, yes. Definitely a little to address that. 555 01:18:45,690 --> 01:18:46,630 Tell us a member of Fender, please. 556 01:18:47,130 --> 01:18:52,450 I have a question about the dear garden. Will it be the vendor that's 557 01:18:52,450 --> 01:19:01,450 in charge of looking at IDs or yes, yes it will be. It will be and it will be the 558 01:19:01,450 --> 01:19:06,950 vendor who is going to be serving as well. So they have insurance and they will 559 01:19:06,950 --> 01:19:11,050 be allowable for anything. So it won't be any of our staff that will be 560 01:19:11,050 --> 01:19:12,950 handling or checking IDs. 561 01:19:13,330 --> 01:19:15,650 And this is a company that is pretty reputable 562 01:19:15,650 --> 01:19:17,850 and they've done other events before. 563 01:19:18,790 --> 01:19:20,790 So we feel comfortable with that. 564 01:19:20,870 --> 01:19:23,630 Close to the police department, if we have any more. 565 01:19:24,010 --> 01:19:26,370 Yes, we do right in the backyard. 566 01:19:27,550 --> 01:19:29,090 I'm sorry, I'm coming to the questions before. 567 01:19:31,600 --> 01:19:32,880 I'll just remember Garam Elfus. 568 01:19:33,400 --> 01:19:35,460 I'll be back with what you said. 569 01:19:35,520 --> 01:19:37,560 We're cutting the parking lot there. 570 01:19:38,020 --> 01:19:40,380 I think if we tie up with the show, 571 01:19:40,380 --> 01:19:46,500 it's that opportunity, you know, harsh money and that's the harsh money, like in the fight. 572 01:19:47,580 --> 01:19:49,600 A lot of people would want it. 573 01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:51,660 But you know, this is something close by. 574 01:19:56,020 --> 01:19:59,440 Like parking lots all across, like, you know, they charge, you know, not really. 575 01:20:00,530 --> 01:20:08,830 We fear grounds, but all the other grounds are charged. So for us, I think, as many parties as we can fit, that are 576 01:20:08,830 --> 01:20:15,050 preventing the church can take it. But now it's a convenience for us, for the residents so that they can 577 01:20:15,050 --> 01:20:20,730 just walk, you know, across. So I think it's a minimum if we can have it. 578 01:20:30,480 --> 01:20:31,920 Okay, yeah, I can 579 01:20:31,920 --> 01:20:37,160 definitely make another that. I'll mention you. I'm so happy that a lot of people are going to maybe 580 01:20:37,160 --> 01:20:41,160 parking neighborhoods and they shouldn't, so it's gonna be a lot of communication and a lot 581 01:20:41,160 --> 01:20:46,680 of work. Morrisville Square is also nearby. People will probably park there, despite signs saying, 582 01:20:46,700 --> 01:20:51,380 no parking other than when you're shopping. Much as you can make good neighbor for everybody. 583 01:20:52,400 --> 01:20:57,360 So it was a great thing. I've one last question, can people bring their own beverages into the 584 01:20:58,720 --> 01:21:02,460 You're going to be really clear about that in advance so people can't bring. 585 01:21:02,740 --> 01:21:04,720 That's correct. That's correct. 586 01:21:04,900 --> 01:21:04,980 Bye. 587 01:21:06,100 --> 01:21:07,280 I can't wait. 588 01:21:08,160 --> 01:21:08,940 I wish it was sooner. 589 01:21:09,880 --> 01:21:10,280 That's wonderful. 590 01:21:10,420 --> 01:21:12,560 Thanks for all the work you've already done 591 01:21:12,560 --> 01:21:15,460 and all the work that you and the entire staff are going to be doing to make this another. 592 01:21:16,260 --> 01:21:16,460 Great. 593 01:21:16,520 --> 01:21:17,500 Thank you. 594 01:21:28,480 --> 01:21:30,520 We are at public address, which is item 10. 595 01:21:31,840 --> 01:21:35,100 Is there anyone here in the audience who signed up? 596 01:21:37,260 --> 01:21:44,060 There are no public comments or CVA email and there were no individual signed up to give in person public comment. 597 01:21:44,400 --> 01:21:47,660 Anyone here in the room who did want to make a public address comment. 598 01:21:51,460 --> 01:21:55,100 Seeing that, it's a little bit of a break, so we'll just go right into action items. 599 01:21:55,860 --> 01:21:58,060 There are three action items on this evening's agenda. 600 01:21:58,060 --> 01:22:00,840 of the closed amendment of the Zones Act for Geek Energy, 601 01:22:01,300 --> 01:22:02,900 a town code of ordinance update, 602 01:22:03,160 --> 01:22:04,980 and a resolution and capital project, 603 01:22:05,560 --> 01:22:07,340 ordinance amendment authorizing phase two 604 01:22:07,340 --> 01:22:10,580 to be designed build for church street parks, Southern Lot. 605 01:22:10,740 --> 01:22:13,580 Susan Russell, Plano 2, will facilitate the first item. 606 01:22:15,820 --> 01:22:19,400 Good evening, Mayor Colley and members of Town Council. 607 01:22:21,080 --> 01:22:23,020 Could you please bring up the photos? 608 01:22:23,860 --> 01:22:25,200 Thank you. Thank you so much. 609 01:22:26,160 --> 01:22:28,720 Okay, so first I have a matter of housekeeping 610 01:22:28,720 --> 01:22:38,780 to report back to you all, regarding the Duke Substitution site. So Duke has cleaned up the 611 01:22:38,780 --> 01:22:45,440 transmission corridor and if you remember that corridor runs adjacent to the homes on 612 01:22:45,440 --> 01:22:54,620 Gradiat. If you'll go through all three, I think there's three. Also our code enforcement officer 613 01:22:54,620 --> 01:23:01,700 Mr. Clarence Harris. He went out there today to make sure that this actually occurred and it did. 614 01:23:01,840 --> 01:23:09,700 He did confirm that, and then also he will be following up with Duke Energy regarding maintenance. 615 01:23:12,210 --> 01:23:18,410 Okay, now on to matters for the closed public hearing. Excuse me. 616 01:23:18,970 --> 01:23:21,130 For the picture real quick, if there is one, 617 01:23:24,430 --> 01:23:25,470 what an nicer thank you. 618 01:23:25,670 --> 01:23:26,310 You're welcome. 619 01:23:27,870 --> 01:23:31,250 Okay, so now on to matters for the closed public hearing. 620 01:23:31,910 --> 01:23:39,810 The applicant, what's the escalation path if for Mr. Harris or for a woman if that 621 01:23:39,810 --> 01:23:41,050 site is not cleaned up? 622 01:23:41,270 --> 01:23:47,150 Who are we asking them to call the site, doesn't stay in good repair, has due promise that 623 01:23:47,150 --> 01:23:47,810 it would? 624 01:23:47,810 --> 01:23:56,710 So I'm not sure about that specifically. Martha, would you have something that you have in mind? 625 01:23:56,770 --> 01:24:06,710 We're actually going to involve Mr. Harris to do some regular maintenance and have that be the contact person for Duke. 626 01:24:06,830 --> 01:24:10,830 And that's who neighbors would normally call as our code enforcement department anyways. 627 01:24:13,830 --> 01:24:27,310 Okay, so the applicant submitted conditions, those are found in your packet and those would be under attachment 19 called revised zoning conditions. 628 01:24:28,590 --> 01:24:39,110 Also, those conditions reference the sketch plan. The sketch plan is found under attachment 20 called the revised sketch plan. 629 01:24:40,290 --> 01:24:54,290 Right now I'm going to go over the changes that were made to those conditions, okay, so we've got number 6 and the applicant added the words as depicted in the sketch plan. 630 01:24:54,290 --> 01:24:59,170 Condition number 8 was changed to Condition number 11. 631 01:25:00,110 --> 01:25:20,250 And then three new conditions were added, those were eight, nine, and ten. So condition eight states, additional supplemental vegetation, screening in the form of southern wax murdals, and pompous grass or similar, shall be provided on the east side of the parcel as depicted in the sketch plan. 632 01:25:20,870 --> 01:25:27,900 Revised Zoning Condition Number 9 states that a gate made of a material compliant with the UDO will 633 01:25:29,610 --> 01:25:35,250 Right, I'll bring that up after I unless you want to bring it up now, Eric, it's fine. 634 01:25:36,110 --> 01:25:39,390 Age two of that, so just because people can read along. 635 01:25:39,610 --> 01:25:40,530 So it'll be attachment, 636 01:25:43,430 --> 01:25:45,230 like the next attachment, yeah. 637 01:25:45,430 --> 01:25:46,730 Thank you. 638 01:25:50,030 --> 01:25:53,330 Would you like me to start over just so we, you're clear? 639 01:26:01,200 --> 01:26:08,960 The condition eight about the screening in the form of southern wax murdals and pompous grass. 640 01:26:15,480 --> 01:26:18,060 Going to be right here and right here. 641 01:26:22,550 --> 01:26:28,070 And then we have revised zoning condition number nine. 642 01:26:29,330 --> 01:26:36,410 A gate made of material compliant with the UDO will be installed in the transmission right of way 643 01:26:36,410 --> 01:26:42,970 and the southeast corner of the property adjacent to Morrisville Carpenter Road in 644 01:26:47,100 --> 01:26:48,100 this location. 645 01:26:53,240 --> 01:26:59,500 Revised zoning condition number 10 states that the gate and fence at the entrance lot to the 646 01:26:59,500 --> 01:27:08,620 substation off Morrisville Carpenter Road will be replaced to be compliant with the UDO and that is 647 01:27:08,620 --> 01:27:10,960 great at the entrance here. 648 01:27:14,050 --> 01:27:18,030 So these are the revised set that was submitted. 649 01:27:18,570 --> 01:27:21,330 And if town council has any questions of me, 650 01:27:21,330 --> 01:27:23,210 I'm happy to answer those now. 651 01:27:25,030 --> 01:27:26,810 I don't remember if I have any questions for Ms. Russell 652 01:27:26,810 --> 01:27:29,850 or staff or the applicant at this time. 653 01:27:33,790 --> 01:27:34,650 Thank you. 654 01:27:36,090 --> 01:27:38,130 So I would like to make this motion. 655 01:27:39,250 --> 01:27:40,970 I find a proposed zoning map amendment 656 01:27:40,970 --> 01:27:43,150 to be consistent with the town of Morrisville's 657 01:27:43,150 --> 01:27:51,270 comprehensive plan that hereby make a motion to approve with conditions ordinance 2022-438-0 of the 658 01:27:51,270 --> 01:27:56,270 Morseville Town Council, approving a zoning map amendment for 940 Morseville Carpenter Road, 659 01:27:56,610 --> 01:28:00,650 located along the north side of Morseville Carpenter Road, east of its intersection with 660 01:28:00,650 --> 01:28:08,790 leafy creek drive to the conditional low-density residential zoning district REZ-22-0010. 661 01:28:08,790 --> 01:28:16,110 Further, I find that the post-Zoning Map Amendment is reasonable, consistent with the Comprehensive 662 01:28:16,110 --> 01:28:21,970 Plan, and is in the public interest because A. Requested Zoning Map Amendment is consistent 663 01:28:21,970 --> 01:28:28,090 with the 2021 Land Use Plan which identifies the subject property as institutional and includes 664 01:28:28,090 --> 01:28:33,850 utilities as preferred use, B. The Requested Zoning Map Amendment is consistent with the public 665 01:28:33,850 --> 01:28:39,610 interest and addresses a demonstrated community need for electric power and see the requested 666 01:28:39,610 --> 01:28:43,830 disowning map amendment for this consistent with the intent of the unified development 667 01:28:43,830 --> 01:28:48,490 ordinance because applying the town with electric power meets the general purpose of the 668 01:28:48,490 --> 01:28:53,070 ordinance, which is to guide and manage the development of Morrisville in a way that takes 669 01:28:53,070 --> 01:28:57,970 an account present and future needs and resources with anyone like the second this motion. 670 01:28:58,790 --> 01:29:00,450 I'll second to motion. 671 01:29:01,750 --> 01:29:01,770 Okay. 672 01:29:02,530 --> 01:29:04,310 All those in favor, please say aye. 673 01:29:04,810 --> 01:29:05,330 Aye. 674 01:29:05,590 --> 01:29:05,630 Aye. 675 01:29:05,630 --> 01:29:06,190 Any opposed? 676 01:29:07,210 --> 01:29:08,530 You're none that carries unanimously. 677 01:29:09,370 --> 01:29:09,950 Seven zero. 678 01:29:10,830 --> 01:29:13,590 At this time with the permission of my fellow council members. 679 01:29:14,330 --> 01:29:18,750 I would like to take this time to read a statement on behalf of the Council regarding this item. 680 01:29:19,850 --> 01:29:20,050 Okay. 681 01:29:20,610 --> 01:29:20,750 Okay. 682 01:29:21,730 --> 01:29:21,850 Okay. 683 01:29:21,850 --> 01:29:22,970 Tom 684 01:29:25,400 --> 01:29:30,880 Council wishes to thank all the engaged residents and community members who have helped guide us in 685 01:29:30,880 --> 01:29:35,140 deliberating on the rezoning request by Duke Energy for expansion of the existing 686 01:29:35,140 --> 01:29:40,460 Morrisville carpenter road substation, especially those most directly affected by this request. 687 01:29:41,080 --> 01:29:45,320 Your voices have been an important part of our deliberations and have been heard. 688 01:29:46,180 --> 01:29:49,980 This decision has been one of the toughest we have considered in many years. 689 01:29:49,980 --> 01:29:59,160 Our duty is to evaluate decisions in the light of what is best for the entire town while recognizing different perspectives of various stakeholders in this process. 690 01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:15,320 The decision was not made lightly. Since Duke Energy submitted this rezoning request, town council has been involved both individually and collectively in gaining an understanding of the electrical power needs, options and issues and concerns of the nearby residents. 691 01:30:15,320 --> 01:30:19,960 countless hours of meetings, calls with Duke Energy and residents, and 692 01:30:19,960 --> 01:30:24,600 substation tours have occurred to ensure we have listened and understood the challenges. 693 01:30:25,580 --> 01:30:30,140 Town Council has strongly advocated for consideration of options that take into account the concerns 694 01:30:30,140 --> 01:30:36,140 expressed by residents. This included ensuring that questions asked by residents have been addressed, 695 01:30:36,600 --> 01:30:40,960 and a specifically that consideration of a southern lot expansion option would be explored. 696 01:30:41,680 --> 01:30:47,280 Duke Energy indicated early in their process that they invalidated a southern option, or 697 01:30:47,280 --> 01:30:53,180 proposed the northern option for a variety of factors, including design layout of the existing 698 01:30:53,180 --> 01:30:58,820 substation, the ability to reduce the tree loss and visibility of the site. Duke Energy 699 01:30:58,820 --> 01:31:03,600 reconsidered the southern lot at the request of our residents and town council, but have again 700 01:31:03,600 --> 01:31:06,080 indicated that is not a viable option. 701 01:31:06,080 --> 01:31:11,660 The timing of the project and impacts on the length of the design and permitting process, 702 01:31:12,240 --> 01:31:16,960 security concerns and costs, have all been cited as reasons for the northern expansion. 703 01:31:18,000 --> 01:31:23,560 Town Council has also recently become aware that the North Carolina Utilities Commission has the authority 704 01:31:23,840 --> 01:31:29,780 and could order construction on the northern side of the sub-station if Town Council voted against the expansion. 705 01:31:29,780 --> 01:31:35,280 The project could then be constructed without the benefit of the conditions town council and staff 706 01:31:35,280 --> 01:31:40,720 have negotiated to mitigate the impact on the surrounding area residents, which included additional 707 01:31:40,720 --> 01:31:44,980 opaque fence and tree buffers as well as some aesthetic improvements to the site. 708 01:31:45,800 --> 01:31:49,140 Decisions about our community should remain in our control. 709 01:31:50,380 --> 01:31:55,120 As a result, town council has approved the rezoning request with these conditions as our best possible 710 01:31:55,120 --> 01:32:00,760 resolution of this needed expansion. We have made clear to Duke our concerns about the lack of 711 01:32:00,760 --> 01:32:05,880 communication about both the timing of the future power needs and the process for being included 712 01:32:05,880 --> 01:32:12,020 and involved in discussion of the issues and options. The town will closely monitor the construction 713 01:32:12,020 --> 01:32:18,080 of the substation expansion and care and maintenance of this site to ensure Duke energy is the good 714 01:32:18,080 --> 01:32:20,760 and partner we expect them to be. 715 01:32:21,320 --> 01:32:27,040 Morrisville's growth, particularly in the life sciences sector, benefits all residents through the creation of jobs, 716 01:32:27,440 --> 01:32:33,360 and growth of tax base that helps the town manage and control costs, and fund the services we provide to our residents. 717 01:32:34,180 --> 01:32:38,160 This approval supports that growth for both our current and future residents and businesses. 718 01:32:39,020 --> 01:32:44,660 The Morrisville Carpenter Road Substation is the first phase of meeting these current and future electrical power needs. 719 01:32:44,660 --> 01:32:47,760 The location and construction of an additional new 720 01:32:47,760 --> 01:32:50,200 substation is needed in the near future. 721 01:32:50,680 --> 01:32:53,220 I may also have significant impacts on our community. 722 01:32:54,020 --> 01:32:57,740 Town Council will be fully engaged and informed in that process for us 723 01:32:57,740 --> 01:33:00,780 and for our stakeholders as this process gets underway. 724 01:33:01,720 --> 01:33:04,000 You are an important part of the town of Morrisville 725 01:33:04,000 --> 01:33:06,660 and our work on your behalf will continue. 726 01:33:09,920 --> 01:33:11,040 This time, Brandon Zutama. 727 01:33:11,460 --> 01:33:14,720 Deputy Council Manager will facilitate the next item on our agenda. 728 01:33:30,820 --> 01:33:32,760 Good evening, Mayor members of Council. 729 01:33:32,860 --> 01:33:34,060 Thank you for your time tonight. 730 01:33:34,800 --> 01:33:38,120 Back for our third discussion of the town ordinances update. 731 01:33:39,620 --> 01:33:43,100 So just as a brief reminder, this is the review process 732 01:33:43,100 --> 01:33:46,020 and the focus on why we're doing this review. 733 01:33:46,560 --> 01:33:48,940 That includes making sure that our content is current 734 01:33:48,940 --> 01:33:50,640 and reflects practice and policy. 735 01:33:50,800 --> 01:33:52,820 Always important and anything we do. 736 01:33:53,220 --> 01:33:57,240 Identifying missing content any outdated or unneeded content. 737 01:33:57,240 --> 01:34:04,460 We have stated all references North Carolina General to that huge approach to the adapters of the UDO and to our own audiences. 738 01:34:05,300 --> 01:34:08,300 Some minor edits have been done just to clean up work. 739 01:34:08,940 --> 01:34:16,340 We've also been careful to go through all of our documents to ensure we have inclusive language, part of our continuing focus on DDI, 740 01:34:16,640 --> 01:34:21,460 with our community, and then ensuring just to face the formatting throughout all of the documents. 741 01:34:23,460 --> 01:34:28,700 So, based on our past two discussions, I had just a couple of items to bring back to you 742 01:34:28,700 --> 01:34:34,940 with a little follow-up. One is smoking and vaping. Again, a reminder quickly on what our current 743 01:34:34,940 --> 01:34:40,640 town ordinances, it does prohibit smoking and town facilities and town vehicles. It does not 744 01:34:40,640 --> 01:34:45,840 prohibit tobacco use or vaping. And the current ordinance has some language that is no longer 745 01:34:45,840 --> 01:34:50,900 consistent with what is used by weak county and in some cases North Carolina general statutes. 746 01:34:51,860 --> 01:34:59,900 The last time we talked, there was some question about whether or not there was already a state statute that outlawed the use of smoking. 747 01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:11,520 Or tobacco products in public, just for clarification for you, this is 138496, which does prohibited in restaurants and bars, but it does not prohibit in other places. 748 01:35:12,300 --> 01:35:22,100 And then chapter 143 has a specific reference to state buildings, but no ordinance generally relating to businesses other than bars and restaurants, just for clarification. 749 01:35:23,760 --> 01:35:27,680 Looking at the White County ordinance, again, that was updated last November. 750 01:35:28,320 --> 01:35:33,360 They expanded their language to finding smoking, also expanded their smoking restrictions 751 01:35:33,360 --> 01:35:37,160 to additional county facilities and particularly to public places. 752 01:35:37,820 --> 01:35:43,220 So they now prohibit smoking, baking, and vaping, excuse me, and tobacco use similar to 753 01:35:43,220 --> 01:35:44,100 what we're proposing. 754 01:35:44,520 --> 01:35:50,280 They do not allow the use in any county facility or vehicle and not on county grounds, and 755 01:35:50,280 --> 01:35:55,440 It is not allowed in public places in unincorporated areas of the county, just some examples, 756 01:35:55,740 --> 01:36:00,240 banks, bowling alleys, gaming centers, grocery stores, movie theaters, all of those. 757 01:36:00,760 --> 01:36:05,360 And again, as we discussed last time, the majority of those owners, I think, prohibit that 758 01:36:05,360 --> 01:36:10,300 by choice, but now that choice doesn't exist as an option in the county in unincorporated 759 01:36:10,300 --> 01:36:10,800 areas. 760 01:36:11,960 --> 01:36:16,040 This is just to summary if you're interested of what the language is in there, I'm not 761 01:36:16,040 --> 01:36:19,620 going to take the time to read that to you, you've seen it in the packet, and we discussed 762 01:36:19,620 --> 01:36:22,760 previously. Again, very similar to what we're proposing. 763 01:36:25,990 --> 01:36:28,270 So you have a couple of options at this point. 764 01:36:28,550 --> 01:36:33,770 One would be to accept the updated ordinance as presented, and that would prohibit smoking, 765 01:36:33,810 --> 01:36:38,790 vaking, vaping, and tobacco use in our facilities, in our parks, and in vehicles. 766 01:36:39,730 --> 01:36:44,610 You could direct additional revisions to the smoking ordinance and address those revisions in the next 767 01:36:44,610 --> 01:36:49,570 round of updates coming later this year. Or if you chose to, you could direct changes now, 768 01:36:49,570 --> 01:36:54,570 and that would push back approval of this ordinance amendment packet to, I would say, at least March 28th. 769 01:36:55,950 --> 01:36:58,330 So I'm open to answer any questions you may have. 770 01:37:00,800 --> 01:37:06,720 I would click a question about the chart where there's the purple and the yellow with this match us to Rollsville. 771 01:37:07,620 --> 01:37:09,060 And that would be the purple all the way across. 772 01:37:09,120 --> 01:37:13,560 This would match us to Rollsville except for government grounds the way it's written right now. 773 01:37:13,680 --> 01:37:16,900 We did put it in our buildings, facilities and parks. 774 01:37:17,400 --> 01:37:20,860 Our ours drafted as it is right now does not address just on the grounds. 775 01:37:21,720 --> 01:37:26,660 outside the buildings. Correct. Correct. That's the clarification I was 776 01:37:27,240 --> 01:37:31,360 in. Any other questions on this item? Without any other, oh yeah, 777 01:37:31,560 --> 01:37:36,380 Councillor Morgaramela? Hello, by Councillor Morruffender. So, talking about the 778 01:37:36,380 --> 01:37:38,480 urban grounds, right? Like the parking lot. 779 01:37:41,390 --> 01:37:43,290 My question is, we'll be having 780 01:37:43,290 --> 01:37:44,710 street vest. 781 01:37:47,210 --> 01:37:51,410 So this allows them to smoke in the parking lot. They would 782 01:37:51,410 --> 01:38:07,170 Under this, be allowed to smoke in the parking lot, and, of course, in the street, which we don't typically control, we don't have the regulation of smoking in the street to my knowledge, but yeah, it would allow for smoking on our town grounds that are close to or a part of the event. 783 01:38:07,170 --> 01:38:07,490 of 784 01:38:09,890 --> 01:38:10,910 the streets to there. 785 01:38:13,730 --> 01:38:16,790 So, in short, when we have pound events, 786 01:38:21,220 --> 01:38:23,840 I understand the normal circumstances, they 787 01:38:23,840 --> 01:38:27,200 can prevent expression use kind of the thing that we have been doing. 788 01:38:27,460 --> 01:38:28,020 Is that it? 789 01:38:30,840 --> 01:38:35,860 So, we have control of that currently when we do things in our parks or on our own facilities, 790 01:38:36,720 --> 01:38:40,900 I think the challenge with something like Springfest or July 3rd is that you're mixing 791 01:38:40,900 --> 01:38:44,680 our property with the street and potentially with others. 792 01:38:44,680 --> 01:38:50,440 And again, as town green evolves, and that becomes, you know, sort of the more focal location 793 01:38:50,440 --> 01:38:54,480 that'll address some of your concern, because we get certainly prohibits smoking within 794 01:38:54,480 --> 01:38:59,100 the town center while the town green in the town center once we begin to transition events 795 01:38:59,100 --> 01:39:00,040 to there. 796 01:39:02,640 --> 01:39:03,560 Councilmember Fender, please. 797 01:39:04,160 --> 01:39:06,720 Yeah, I have a question regarding the government grounds. 798 01:39:06,880 --> 01:39:15,580 If we allow that, are there designated areas on the grounds that are smoking? 799 01:39:15,580 --> 01:39:18,320 We don't currently have designated areas. 800 01:39:18,940 --> 01:39:28,020 Yeah, I have an issue with that because, you know, if someone go there for group of people go outside, 801 01:39:29,660 --> 01:39:35,600 and they could be just standing around in front of a building. 802 01:39:36,620 --> 01:39:44,310 And I don't want to have to walk through that to get into the building 803 01:39:44,310 --> 01:39:53,870 And I've been in situations like that, and it's, I don't think anyone should have to be subject to this smoke. 804 01:39:55,910 --> 01:39:59,970 I mean, I don't know if, what the options are. 805 01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:27,640 Are with that? I mean, I think it's fine if you allow it on government grounds. There's a designated area away from doors that people would be going in and out of, or just ban it all together. I would be in favor of that. To be just like Rollsville, then you're eliminating the chance to cigarette butts all over the ground as well. 806 01:40:28,820 --> 01:40:35,500 So of the two, I would suggest if you want to consider one of the other, I would suggest not on grounds at all. 807 01:40:35,660 --> 01:40:39,400 I think creating smoking areas is great some of its own issues. 808 01:40:40,100 --> 01:40:44,840 So if you wanted to consider that, I would suggest you consider barring it from town, 809 01:40:45,220 --> 01:40:47,500 own property period. 810 01:40:48,120 --> 01:40:52,900 And we could certainly, if there's a consensus around that, could modify the language 811 01:40:52,900 --> 01:40:55,960 in the ordinance now simply expand it from 812 01:40:56,700 --> 01:40:59,060 in town facilities, parks, 813 01:40:59,120 --> 01:41:02,880 and to include on park or 814 01:41:02,880 --> 01:41:04,380 assume the on town property. 815 01:41:05,260 --> 01:41:07,560 My only, I mean, I would, I'm highly 816 01:41:07,560 --> 01:41:11,560 in favor of doing that, not only concern is for 817 01:41:11,560 --> 01:41:17,470 our employees, like if there's police officers 818 01:41:17,470 --> 01:41:19,570 or people working in the 819 01:41:19,570 --> 01:41:24,930 conversation with all the staff, where would they go? 820 01:41:25,690 --> 01:41:32,110 So you would, my expectation is it would end up like if you drive over towards Raleigh and 821 01:41:32,110 --> 01:41:36,250 go past one of the health care facilities, they walk out onto the sidewalk, off of the property 822 01:41:36,250 --> 01:41:41,710 of the hospital and smoke and you would likely, for the few that I think we have do that, 823 01:41:42,230 --> 01:41:44,050 you would push people to the sidewalk. 824 01:41:47,410 --> 01:41:50,110 So they could just go out on the sidewalk right here. 825 01:41:50,110 --> 01:41:53,170 off of town property out onto the public. 826 01:41:55,960 --> 01:41:59,940 How the other council members feel about that, but I'd be in favor of that 827 01:41:59,940 --> 01:42:00,440 option. 828 01:42:03,230 --> 01:42:08,270 All the way in, I'm very much interested in the public off the grounds, I want to be really 829 01:42:08,270 --> 01:42:09,650 sensitive though, 830 01:42:14,620 --> 01:42:18,960 but I think a medium might be, I know that the Convention Center in 831 01:42:18,960 --> 01:42:25,600 Raleigh says like, no smoking within 50, so that would be a way to avoid the issue of 832 01:42:25,600 --> 01:42:28,980 having to be exposed to smoke when you don't want to be. 833 01:42:29,720 --> 01:42:31,580 as a possible middle ground, 834 01:42:35,300 --> 01:42:38,600 or people chime in, I think we're going to have written. 835 01:42:40,380 --> 01:42:42,660 So I'm going to say the way in if I wish. 836 01:42:43,680 --> 01:42:44,240 I'm a Garamela. 837 01:42:45,400 --> 01:42:52,620 I think, you know, like, I'm okay with the way it is for now and if it gets bad, then we can 838 01:42:52,620 --> 01:42:54,760 come back and address it, you know. 839 01:42:54,760 --> 01:42:59,380 because there are pros and cons for doing that because 840 01:43:01,210 --> 01:43:04,010 town staff staying on the street 841 01:43:11,460 --> 01:43:11,860 and the 842 01:43:11,860 --> 01:43:15,860 ignition is not the right that they'll come up saying 843 01:43:15,860 --> 01:43:17,140 why can't you have it in parts? 844 01:43:17,540 --> 01:43:19,720 Why can't you have it in other areas? So that opens up whatever 845 01:43:19,720 --> 01:43:26,520 you can. So I think right now, you know, we can see if it gets 846 01:43:26,520 --> 01:43:30,800 back. Right. Then we can pick the next day when I 847 01:43:34,420 --> 01:43:48,980 So I agree this is step in the right direction, but I'm I also agree with the middle ground, but I'm we say 50 feet from an entrance and I don't think I want to see folks standing out on the sidewalk smoking either. 848 01:43:50,080 --> 01:43:55,080 And I think it will be hard to have a designated area so I'm also okay. 849 01:43:55,240 --> 01:44:00,920 Aren't you coming back Brandon again with updates on this in the near future? 850 01:44:00,920 --> 01:44:07,520 not on these items we expect to come back probably and I would say later this year could be this summer 851 01:44:07,520 --> 01:44:12,560 potentially with some other updates related to some parking issues that we're still doing some 852 01:44:12,560 --> 01:44:13,740 study but 853 01:44:16,780 --> 01:44:22,060 if you if I may if you wanted to address something that's different from what's in the 854 01:44:22,060 --> 01:44:27,760 draft ordinance you could do that tonight I believe when you and I'll let the town attorney correct me here 855 01:44:27,760 --> 01:44:33,880 but when you make your motion assuming you would do that if you make a motion to adopt the ordinance 856 01:44:33,880 --> 01:44:42,360 You could do that as amended and I could give you the language in advance that I would add to that section in regards to 50 feet away from any entrance. 857 01:44:49,750 --> 01:44:52,070 On the 50 feet, maybe. 858 01:44:53,270 --> 01:44:54,950 After we hear from council member of body. 859 01:44:55,530 --> 01:44:58,050 How will we designate the 50 feet? 860 01:44:58,310 --> 01:44:59,950 Just be general knowledge or will it? 861 01:45:04,060 --> 01:45:10,480 We could certainly put some signage at the entrances to our building. I think, generally, people will 862 01:45:10,480 --> 01:45:17,000 self-complie with that. I don't think we need to, to necessarily mark a 50 feet. If we felt that we were 863 01:45:17,000 --> 01:45:22,200 building issue, I think the initial would be to educate our staff, particularly, and to add some 864 01:45:22,200 --> 01:45:23,540 signage outside of our doors. 865 01:45:28,780 --> 01:45:32,280 Not making motion individually, we're going to do it all together, yeah. 866 01:45:36,740 --> 01:45:44,500 Okay, so if we approach you from that direction and here's that chart and I would put us purple all the way across with the exception of the public places 867 01:45:44,500 --> 01:45:48,840 In a sense in that we would prohibit a tune extent on government ground, 868 01:45:54,420 --> 01:45:54,500 so 869 01:45:54,500 --> 01:46:04,080 Okay, just very briefly you have not heard this before, but needed to just do a quick clarification with you in doing sort of a final run through on the ordinances 870 01:46:04,080 --> 01:46:08,200 is recognize that we had one inconsistency, we had not previously addressed. 871 01:46:09,140 --> 01:46:14,360 So our false alarm fines are included in the user fee schedule. 872 01:46:14,840 --> 01:46:16,460 And we don't normally do that with fines. 873 01:46:16,660 --> 01:46:18,880 We rely on the town ordinances to do that. 874 01:46:19,100 --> 01:46:23,820 But because this is applicable to so many people and because we want to make sure that 875 01:46:23,820 --> 01:46:27,040 we're transparent, it's been included in the user fee schedule. 876 01:46:27,340 --> 01:46:32,440 What we realized is that this is what's in the user fee schedule on the bottom half of 877 01:46:32,440 --> 01:46:40,600 And it's basically an escalating fee, so essentially the first three are freebies and then from four to five you get a fee and if it's six to seven 878 01:46:40,600 --> 01:46:44,580 You get a higher fee again trying to deter the false alarms 879 01:46:44,580 --> 01:46:53,280 But what we found is the current ordinance just references a single one hundred dollar civil penalty for false alarms so that doesn't quite line up 880 01:46:53,280 --> 01:47:01,600 So this is the current language on the top the civil penalty that talks about a one hundred dollar civil penalty, which can be recovered by the town 881 01:47:01,600 --> 01:47:18,980 So, on the bottom of that page, you will see what we're recommending changing, which is just removing the $100 reference and adding a line that the civil penalty to be assessed is included in the town's user fee schedule that is adopted annually by town council as a part of the adopted operating budget. 882 01:47:21,120 --> 01:47:22,200 I'm a garam all of this. 883 01:47:22,960 --> 01:47:25,060 So, I wanted to be more specific. 884 01:47:32,230 --> 01:47:37,050 I answered that as one of the three is because we're renting it out. 885 01:47:40,540 --> 01:47:45,280 So, those are generally, you know, that goes back to the HOA or the owner of the building. 886 01:47:46,180 --> 01:47:52,520 So, if you had three events with three different groups, that would be sort of three freebies. 887 01:47:52,620 --> 01:47:56,420 And if it went off a fourth time, then that would become a false alarm penalty. 888 01:48:00,130 --> 01:48:08,770 The approach is to put the emphasis on the owner of the building to educate and inform and hold people responsible that are utilizing the facility. 889 01:48:10,880 --> 01:48:16,240 It's respectfully who pulls the alarm doesn't change the response and the commitment of 890 01:48:16,240 --> 01:48:17,940 town resources to that. 891 01:48:20,730 --> 01:48:21,530 I think it this 892 01:48:36,820 --> 01:48:53,800 is not a new table, but I understand what you're saying and we can certainly 893 01:48:53,800 --> 01:48:56,940 we actually have a new newsletter that's going out to our HOAs. 894 01:48:56,940 --> 01:49:02,720 So we can use, we can certainly inform in that and make contact with other folks, we know might do anything else. 895 01:49:02,720 --> 01:49:06,380 Any other rental, like, you know, campers are like the other places. 896 01:49:06,920 --> 01:49:07,160 Yep. 897 01:49:15,090 --> 01:49:16,210 Thank you. 898 01:49:16,670 --> 01:49:20,070 Sir, this is for commercial residential HOA's apartments. 899 01:49:20,830 --> 01:49:22,230 Anyone that has a police alarm? 900 01:49:23,830 --> 01:49:24,670 Also fire alarms? 901 01:49:25,190 --> 01:49:28,090 Now, this is specifically related to police alarms. 902 01:49:28,450 --> 01:49:31,110 Fire alarms are covered separately in another ordinance. 903 01:49:31,110 --> 01:49:37,270 I don't know. 904 01:49:38,830 --> 01:49:39,070 Yeah. 905 01:49:39,070 --> 01:49:41,970 This is somebody you know pulls the door when he alarms on and it triggers. 906 01:49:43,990 --> 01:49:44,230 Yeah. 907 01:49:45,430 --> 01:49:50,350 Often it's my understanding like what they try to call the owner first. 908 01:49:50,410 --> 01:49:50,770 Correct. 909 01:49:51,950 --> 01:49:52,310 Correct. 910 01:49:53,290 --> 01:49:55,030 The buffer in there before. 911 01:49:56,070 --> 01:49:59,770 typically we're not, it's a town the police department is not the first contact, we're 912 01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:01,680 Typically, like the third. 913 01:50:02,000 --> 01:50:03,620 About educating the public. 914 01:50:05,020 --> 01:50:06,460 As a voice, then, we'll reach out. 915 01:50:06,780 --> 01:50:07,040 Yep. 916 01:50:08,140 --> 01:50:10,260 Any other questions about this one? 917 01:50:11,540 --> 01:50:12,820 Okay, thank you. 918 01:50:15,600 --> 01:50:18,860 So, we had talked about park use by organized groups. 919 01:50:18,940 --> 01:50:21,440 Again, appreciate your discussion and your feedback. 920 01:50:22,260 --> 01:50:28,160 So, have updated that to change it from required to rent the field to reserve the field. 921 01:50:28,160 --> 01:50:35,620 Again, we need that ability to track use and understand who's anticipating being there, but we will not charge a fee. 922 01:50:35,760 --> 01:50:40,680 We will simply ask them to reserve a view at the time that they want their event to occur. 923 01:50:42,120 --> 01:50:46,340 And again, this is just kind of showing you how we've made the update to the ordinance. 924 01:50:46,600 --> 01:50:53,720 So now talks about obtaining the proper town facility rental reservation rather than a paid reservation. 925 01:50:53,720 --> 01:51:08,720 And then just clarifies that there could be other applicable permits, especially if it's a special event, or depending on what if it involves a specific facility that's rented out, there could be a fee, but there won't be a fee related to just utilizing a field. 926 01:51:10,800 --> 01:51:13,780 I think that aligns with what you had asked us to address. 927 01:51:14,140 --> 01:51:15,380 Sir, Council Member Garamela. 928 01:51:16,800 --> 01:51:27,000 It's the only thing that a question is regarding resting as the resting feels all at the same time are like 929 01:51:27,760 --> 01:51:38,660 just a part of the next group, so I think you can then have a friend or I don't want to be in the way that all Marshal grounds are ready 930 01:51:38,660 --> 01:51:47,400 Right now, it's on a rotating basis and it's, you know, because not every field is the same depending on how it's constructed and where it exists with the 931 01:51:47,400 --> 01:51:54,660 the water and all. So no, it is never like no, no fields are open. This weekend is one field might not be open on a given day. 932 01:51:54,740 --> 01:51:55,840 And that's where we will advertise. 933 01:51:58,760 --> 01:52:00,140 We will do our best, yes. 934 01:52:00,980 --> 01:52:05,980 And we'll have the ability to walk out, you know, those sections in the reservation system. 935 01:52:07,640 --> 01:52:07,720 Okay. 936 01:52:09,000 --> 01:52:10,580 Any other questions on that one? 937 01:52:12,710 --> 01:52:16,950 All right. You'd ask me to follow up a little bit on parking left side to curb. 938 01:52:17,790 --> 01:52:22,190 So, again, here's the curtain ordinance, 58-95, no vehicle. 939 01:52:22,510 --> 01:52:26,970 She'll stop or park with its left side to the curb in any residential or commercial area, 940 01:52:27,230 --> 01:52:30,850 except that on one way streets vehicles, she'll stop headed in the direction of traffic. 941 01:52:32,370 --> 01:52:36,450 So, again, that is largely a safety matter because you don't want somebody pulling off 942 01:52:36,450 --> 01:52:40,670 to the left when they try to pull out their pulling into oncoming or having to cross over 943 01:52:40,670 --> 01:52:41,630 oncoming traffic. 944 01:52:42,050 --> 01:52:45,610 It's much safer to be on the right side of the street and pull into your own lane 945 01:52:45,610 --> 01:52:52,290 travel. So did, well, I won't say I did, our police department did some research and was kind 946 01:52:52,290 --> 01:52:57,870 of enough to provide it to me. This is what the parking citations looked like for 2021 and 947 01:52:57,870 --> 01:53:08,870 22 calendar year. So total parking citations was 197 and 2020, 360 and 2021 and 365 and 2022. 948 01:53:09,450 --> 01:53:14,050 Obviously, well, I won't say obviously, the 2020 number is related to COVID. 949 01:53:14,050 --> 01:53:24,170 just there wasn't as much enforcement and other things occurring so each of those years you can see the percentage of the citations for left side of curve versus the total 950 01:53:24,170 --> 01:53:38,250 So in 2020 there was about 58 percent of citations issued for left of curve parking 51 percent in 21 44 percent in 22 for a 49 percent average of the citations that are issued. 951 01:53:40,810 --> 01:53:45,950 So, our recommended version of Chapter 58 does not include a change to this section. 952 01:53:46,070 --> 01:53:49,550 I know there have been some questions about when there's being issued and why there's being issued. 953 01:53:50,370 --> 01:53:57,350 So, the options I would propose to you, you can leave the ordinance as it is, and we would continue to prohibit parking left side to curb. 954 01:53:57,970 --> 01:54:03,930 You could request additional research by staff and include this in the next round of ordinance updates this year. 955 01:54:03,930 --> 01:54:11,190 Or you could direct changes now, and that would likely push back our approval to at least March 28, similar to the last issue we discussed. 956 01:54:13,280 --> 01:54:15,340 Robin Johnson, please, followed by Councilmember Garmo. 957 01:54:16,220 --> 01:54:17,300 Thank you. 958 01:54:18,460 --> 01:54:25,340 I, for the most part, agree with the, you know, parking on the proper side of the road. 959 01:54:25,440 --> 01:54:27,500 I think it helps with safety. 960 01:54:28,280 --> 01:54:33,440 It helps with our, our buses, school buses going along roads and so forth like that. 961 01:54:33,440 --> 01:54:42,240 know there are some neighborhoods that have very have alleys and that kind of a challenge finding 962 01:54:42,240 --> 01:54:50,180 proper parking. I would wonder what is the second highest parking violation because you just 963 01:54:50,180 --> 01:54:58,420 gave us a chart that's talked about specifically this issue, but is there a predominantly, 964 01:54:58,420 --> 01:54:59,820 it, you know. 965 01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:10,340 Other kind of violation that's popping up in the parking violations so that just to educate us and make the public aware as well. 966 01:55:10,840 --> 01:55:15,480 So this is the predominant one obviously, as you can see from the percentages like it wins out. 967 01:55:16,120 --> 01:55:19,300 So there is no sort of clear second if you will. 968 01:55:19,720 --> 01:55:23,020 There are a number of different violations that get smaller percentages. 969 01:55:23,020 --> 01:55:34,740 And so some of those are parking in handicap zone, parking in parking zone, parking too close to the curb, blocking a hydrant, any number of different violations that get enforced. 970 01:55:35,200 --> 01:55:41,920 Yeah, there's no clear, this is the second one. The other thing I would share is that this enforcement occurs across the town. 971 01:55:42,500 --> 01:55:50,960 So the police department was good in providing me a map of where it's done, and I think I counted 13 or 14 different communities or neighborhoods where this occurs. 972 01:55:50,960 --> 01:56:05,100 And so this is not focused in any one neighborhood, it's it's and it's across the town. I mean, it's from north the southeast to west and and pretty evenly spread out based on population and any one of those neighborhoods. This is not a 973 01:56:05,620 --> 01:56:11,220 We're only going there to take care of it. It's across the town for safety concerns. That's helpful. Thank you very much. 974 01:56:11,220 --> 01:56:11,680 Just me. 975 01:56:12,560 --> 01:56:13,860 Can't remember Garam L of this? 976 01:56:14,280 --> 01:56:15,380 Yeah, for me. 977 01:56:15,440 --> 01:56:19,820 I would say, like, you know, request additional research because my whole theory about this 978 01:56:19,820 --> 01:56:25,440 one is if you look at it, it's almost like 50 percent and understand the safety, understand 979 01:56:25,440 --> 01:56:31,660 the need of it, but when our neighboring towns are not doing it, there might be a reason why 980 01:56:31,660 --> 01:56:33,060 they're not doing it either. 981 01:56:33,420 --> 01:56:35,460 You know, Kerry doesn't do it. 982 01:56:35,460 --> 01:56:40,680 effects has only one area that they do it and so I don't know, I don't think around those 983 01:56:40,680 --> 01:56:42,920 it too. So, 984 01:56:44,940 --> 01:56:49,580 by and I'm very much a mixed bag that can carry more so and go around so 985 01:56:49,580 --> 01:56:54,580 I'd like, you know, and most of the times I'm seeing like the people who are getting are 986 01:56:55,400 --> 01:57:04,540 who are coming first time into more so or not aware of it, you know, and I've seen a lot of people 987 01:57:04,540 --> 01:57:10,000 appeal and those opinions are all being rejected none of them have been successful there. 988 01:57:11,720 --> 01:57:13,940 So what are we achieving out of it? 989 01:57:14,240 --> 01:57:20,840 That's the key where I feel like a safety is one, but at the same time, it's a drain 990 01:57:20,840 --> 01:57:30,680 on MPD with this data that they had to go police and give tickets and then go through that whole 991 01:57:30,680 --> 01:57:43,960 For me, it's like, by the time I'm not doing and you also sort of like not killing a different stretch, it doesn't require that too, you know, it's not mandatory in there. 992 01:57:45,040 --> 01:57:51,160 So understand the safety, understand everything, but when our neighboring council not doing it, why are we forcing it? 993 01:57:51,160 --> 01:58:01,240 Well, so I think some of our neighbors are doing it. Again, I think that some have different levels of, and you saw that in an email I shared with you in regards to this. 994 01:58:01,360 --> 01:58:07,160 So there are different levels or different approaches to the enforcement. 995 01:58:08,100 --> 01:58:13,560 And again, look at Carrie and Apex. I have not looked at Durham. I know that Gardner enforces this as an example. 996 01:58:14,340 --> 01:58:22,060 And again, the other thing that I would suggest is if you look at it, as you initially look at it, I think 160 may seem like a big number. 997 01:58:22,060 --> 01:58:31,000 But that's one citation every other day over the course of the year, and that's also spread out again over 13 or 14 neighborhoods. 998 01:58:31,940 --> 01:58:38,380 So you might get one ticket issued in your neighborhood a month in any given neighborhood a month. 999 01:58:38,400 --> 01:58:46,900 There might be one citation issued over the course of those that leads to this 160-ish, you know, every other day number. 1000 01:58:46,900 --> 01:58:58,700 But here what you're saying, but I think it is, it is a safety concern, you know, and in terms of the burden, you know, sometimes these are occurring, based on complaints, sometimes these are occurring during just routine. 1001 01:59:00,280 --> 01:59:02,960 So I understand it could appear to be a burden. 1002 01:59:03,320 --> 01:59:05,960 I think it's just part of their job responsibility, 1003 01:59:08,440 --> 01:59:09,520 but understand it's workload. 1004 01:59:10,700 --> 01:59:20,000 And other things also, where when the ticket is given, I got several phone calls regarding this, and I know it's all across. 1005 01:59:20,260 --> 01:59:28,840 It's not targeted to any internet and fairly so, is it enough to know if their points are getting added to the insurance. 1006 01:59:29,840 --> 01:59:37,960 And many times I had to say, like, just go paid, it is more pound audience and it's not going and hitting the DMV points or this kind of thing. 1007 01:59:37,960 --> 01:59:41,820 I think that's a good point, parking tickets are not reported to DMV. 1008 01:59:42,300 --> 01:59:45,160 This is a town parking ticket with a civil penalty. 1009 01:59:45,680 --> 01:59:47,240 This does not impact insurance. 1010 01:59:47,480 --> 01:59:49,300 This is not going to driver's history. 1011 01:59:50,060 --> 01:59:54,600 Yeah, and so that is one of the major anxiety that people first get. 1012 01:59:55,020 --> 01:59:56,800 Oh my god, you know, like this is happening. 1013 01:59:57,640 --> 01:59:59,960 And rest of the other ones, I'm 100%. 1014 02:00:00,080 --> 02:00:28,040 We're talking in front of fire hydrant. We'll give it. You know, like near the curb or, you know, where, you know, like fire access is stopped or blocking someone's driving, 100% but this is for me is like, you know, I understand it, but is there any some flex there? So that looking at 50, almost 50% of the tickets are based on that. What is the middle ground, what can we do, you know, like. 1015 02:00:31,400 --> 02:00:33,040 Council member, please. 1016 02:00:34,480 --> 02:00:36,500 I just want to reiterate that, 1017 02:00:38,200 --> 02:00:40,900 Brandon said it's a safety issue. 1018 02:00:41,260 --> 02:00:44,820 Parking on the wrong side of the road is a safety issue. 1019 02:00:46,240 --> 02:00:49,600 And it's not something that is, 1020 02:00:50,080 --> 02:00:53,240 I mean it's pretty universal anywhere you go. 1021 02:00:53,740 --> 02:00:56,640 I mean, I don't care if 1022 02:00:56,640 --> 02:01:07,120 County Carey doesn't do it, it's pretty universal across the United States in different states, different towns that you don't park on the wrong side of the road. 1023 02:01:08,240 --> 02:01:18,220 So for us to be like, lacks about that, you're introducing more risk of a kid riding his bike and getting run over. 1024 02:01:18,220 --> 02:01:23,980 So, I'm pretty against trying to change that ordinance. 1025 02:01:24,120 --> 02:01:30,900 I know in my neighborhood right now, we already have so many issues with people parking 1026 02:01:30,900 --> 02:01:38,840 in the wrong places, people speeding through our neighborhood as the chief heard the complaint 1027 02:01:38,840 --> 02:01:50,680 about before, to add one more digital risk in the met is not something I want to see occur in our 1028 02:01:50,680 --> 02:01:57,880 town. I'm very much opposed to changing that. There's a reason why that ordinance is there. 1029 02:01:58,680 --> 02:02:06,500 And if it's an educational issue, then we need to do that. But it's not some anomaly. It's pretty 1030 02:02:06,500 --> 02:02:07,460 universal. 1031 02:02:11,560 --> 02:02:14,320 I'm going to remind you what is the 1032 02:02:14,320 --> 02:02:16,360 fine for this particular. 1033 02:02:18,460 --> 02:02:19,640 looked it up. 1034 02:02:19,640 --> 02:02:20,860 I'm going to have to look it up. 1035 02:02:21,140 --> 02:02:22,680 I don't know. 1036 02:02:24,060 --> 02:02:25,240 It's minimal. 1037 02:02:27,720 --> 02:02:28,460 It's 1038 02:02:28,460 --> 02:02:28,880 $50. 1039 02:02:29,540 --> 02:02:30,720 It's not $500. 1040 02:02:31,980 --> 02:02:32,860 It's it's yeah. 1041 02:02:34,640 --> 02:02:34,760 So 1042 02:02:34,760 --> 02:02:37,620 and maybe we have done this before. 1043 02:02:37,620 --> 02:02:46,820 And I've forgotten it or not seen it, but our police department is really fabulous at doing educational videos. 1044 02:02:47,380 --> 02:02:53,020 Is this one that we can ask them to emphasize and they've probably done one before. 1045 02:02:53,040 --> 02:02:56,720 I think we have the right person in the room to say we could make that happen. 1046 02:02:57,500 --> 02:02:59,360 Pete, that was a yes. 1047 02:02:59,680 --> 02:03:07,120 Whenever it's appropriate, that might help to these folks that are, I really said it doesn't help 1048 02:03:07,120 --> 02:03:12,680 the people at a town because they're not glued into our social media and what we're doing in town, 1049 02:03:15,500 --> 02:03:22,000 but I'm okay with leaving this alone too. This has been in place longer than 2020 though, 1050 02:03:22,000 --> 02:03:25,900 right? Oh yeah, this is just, I'm just giving you an example of the last three years and I was 1051 02:03:25,900 --> 02:03:26,960 and place for a while. 1052 02:03:30,080 --> 02:03:37,840 It would be open to seeing some of this data as we move through in the next 1053 02:03:37,840 --> 02:03:46,260 six months, twelve months, whatever, and see if these numbers grow or not. I don't have 1054 02:03:46,260 --> 02:03:54,540 not three or three years, don't give me all that. It is like 50%. They kind of go up and down. 1055 02:03:54,540 --> 02:03:58,020 So maybe that'll change over time too, so. 1056 02:04:00,560 --> 02:04:03,700 But I too am in favor of just meeting it as is. 1057 02:04:03,880 --> 02:04:08,020 If you want to bring back some more information about what the other ones are, 1058 02:04:08,120 --> 02:04:09,820 just that of curiosity would be good. 1059 02:04:10,420 --> 02:04:13,340 One thing that, at least Department has done in the past, 1060 02:04:13,640 --> 02:04:15,800 is they had it don't get noticed campaign. 1061 02:04:16,540 --> 02:04:18,920 When people let the garage doors open and things like that. 1062 02:04:19,400 --> 02:04:22,300 So when Chief Andrews brought this forward at the first time, 1063 02:04:22,500 --> 02:04:23,960 there was a couple of months of education. 1064 02:04:23,960 --> 02:04:29,760 And maybe, radically, we can go through that again with a video, maybe instead of a ticket, 1065 02:04:30,120 --> 02:04:33,760 put something to windshield saying, this is something, 1066 02:04:35,820 --> 02:04:37,580 or educational, especially if you 1067 02:04:37,580 --> 02:04:43,340 don't want to go ahead and make sure that our residents tell our visitors, oh, you should 1068 02:04:43,340 --> 02:04:47,820 really shen park that way when I have contractors come over, I tell them so that they don't 1069 02:04:47,820 --> 02:04:48,480 get a ticket. 1070 02:04:49,440 --> 02:04:52,340 So, about the education and trying to help people along. 1071 02:04:52,340 --> 02:04:57,960 Yeah, I agree with the education, I think the other thing you'll see is if we step up that education 1072 02:04:57,960 --> 02:04:59,960 you'll see fewer and fewer people do it. 1073 02:05:00,180 --> 02:05:08,240 And the less that people see others doing it, they'll maybe recognize that, oh, wait a minute, nobody else is parked like this, maybe I'm not supposed to. 1074 02:05:11,670 --> 02:05:23,290 Member Tom Jones, just along those lines, the education you mentioned, the HOA newsletter, this might be one of those topics to reinforce with our HOA, so that they can share it with their neighborhoods. 1075 02:05:24,070 --> 02:05:26,830 Bill is nodding his head in the back, so absolutely. 1076 02:05:31,840 --> 02:05:33,980 Bring us back some more information, which is one of the options. 1077 02:05:34,800 --> 02:05:36,940 Sure, I'll provide you with that. 1078 02:05:36,940 --> 02:05:41,280 Maybe outside of the meeting, she'd process that and we can discuss it if you feel we need to. 1079 02:05:41,380 --> 02:05:42,940 That's probably okay. 1080 02:05:43,960 --> 02:05:44,200 Yeah. 1081 02:05:44,980 --> 02:05:50,840 My thing is, I understand the safety, but if it was mandatory, why didn't I tell them I don't do it. 1082 02:05:54,030 --> 02:05:56,190 Why are only certain towns doing it? 1083 02:05:56,750 --> 02:05:57,070 Understand. 1084 02:05:58,250 --> 02:05:59,710 I like that. 1085 02:06:00,370 --> 02:06:05,370 The general rule is if you are a parking friend of the 500, but that is universal all across. 1086 02:06:05,370 --> 02:06:14,030 So, why is this not mandated? And by time, so that's the confusion is what it is. 1087 02:06:14,290 --> 02:06:16,030 It's like when people come and go. 1088 02:06:16,450 --> 02:06:25,290 Okay, thank you. All right. So, that was our last sort of follow-up item. So, just sort 1089 02:06:25,290 --> 02:06:28,870 of want to remind you of what the highest highlight, what some of the changes are that you're 1090 02:06:28,870 --> 02:06:34,130 being asked to approve tonight. So, we changed alcohol and parks being part of our special 1091 02:06:34,130 --> 02:06:39,950 that process. We have designated, you have designated political activity to be allowed in 1092 02:06:39,950 --> 02:06:45,230 plot organized groups required to reserve a field, not rent, but reserve a field for use 1093 02:06:45,230 --> 02:06:50,790 of open park space. Parades are an part of the special event process, well group demonstrations 1094 02:06:50,790 --> 02:06:56,550 and picket lines are handled by the police department. Spoking, including vaping and other 1095 02:06:56,550 --> 02:07:02,130 tobacco, is restricted in town parks, and also within now 50 feet of an entrance to 1096 02:07:02,130 --> 02:07:07,710 town facility, a commercial vehicle parking has been restricted on main thoroughfares on a case 1097 02:07:07,710 --> 02:07:15,170 by case basis, but commercial vehicle parking has been restricted on all town streets. I'm 1098 02:07:15,170 --> 02:07:19,190 happy to answer any other questions or might be based on any of that. 1099 02:07:21,470 --> 02:07:27,270 The previous slide, one, especially the commercial vehicles, how many of you do the education 1100 02:07:27,270 --> 02:07:35,090 or that, because it might be out of state, you know, like this license is a pocket anywhere 1101 02:07:35,090 --> 02:07:41,890 they come and they do. So the commercial parking on main thoroughfares is pretty straightforward 1102 02:07:41,890 --> 02:07:48,070 because it's all being marked as no parking. So that's sort of a sort of a no-brainer. 1103 02:07:48,450 --> 02:07:54,710 There's, for example, across from the pauses there near food line, you know, that was clearly 1104 02:07:54,710 --> 02:07:57,610 Mark does no parking, that seems to have addressed those issues. 1105 02:07:58,350 --> 02:08:00,650 So that sort of takes care of on the main thoroughfares. 1106 02:08:01,110 --> 02:08:05,610 For the parking on all town streets, there'll be an educational effort by the police department. 1107 02:08:05,810 --> 02:08:07,770 There's several things we're going to be talking about. 1108 02:08:07,850 --> 02:08:11,650 Again, we'll also push that out to HOA's and remind them of that. 1109 02:08:11,750 --> 02:08:16,750 And I think I can safely say, we'll have an education period before we start enforcing that. 1110 02:08:18,350 --> 02:08:21,170 That's good, because we want to be fair and awake. 1111 02:08:21,170 --> 02:08:21,510 Correct. 1112 02:08:22,490 --> 02:08:22,590 Correct. 1113 02:08:22,590 --> 02:08:24,590 Thank you. 1114 02:08:27,370 --> 02:08:30,470 I just had a quick follow-up on the smoking. 1115 02:08:34,520 --> 02:08:35,720 That'd be staff's recommendation. 1116 02:08:40,350 --> 02:08:50,410 I mean, I think that's a reasonable distance to ensure that, you know, you're far enough away that if someone doesn't want to be near you, they can find a way to the door by themselves. 1117 02:08:54,340 --> 02:08:56,400 I have nothing else for you. 1118 02:08:56,680 --> 02:08:57,220 Other questions? 1119 02:08:58,040 --> 02:09:01,020 I'd entertain a motion to adopt this. 1120 02:09:01,380 --> 02:09:05,000 Mayor, if I could, I'm sorry, I didn't interrupt you, but just remember that you also 1121 02:09:05,000 --> 02:09:10,780 want to indicate that you're also acknowledging the 50 feet within a door for town grounds. 1122 02:09:10,820 --> 02:09:13,880 As a part of this, it's not listed there at Paul Dough that didn't have that prior. 1123 02:09:14,400 --> 02:09:14,740 All right, exactly. 1124 02:09:15,400 --> 02:09:16,180 So, thank you. 1125 02:09:16,380 --> 02:09:16,520 Thank you. 1126 02:09:17,140 --> 02:09:17,240 Correct. 1127 02:09:18,880 --> 02:09:20,300 Do you like to make that motion? 1128 02:09:21,460 --> 02:09:21,620 Okay. 1129 02:09:21,740 --> 02:09:22,220 Council member Garmel? 1130 02:09:22,700 --> 02:09:23,560 I put it. 1131 02:09:23,600 --> 02:09:24,040 Motion. 1132 02:09:24,040 --> 02:09:34,860 and to adopt RNN-2023-060, the Marshal Town Council, I'm ending the table of contents 1133 02:09:34,860 --> 02:09:52,500 and chapter 1, 2, 10, 14, 18, 22, 26, 30, 34, 38, 46, 50, 54, 56, 68, 66, and 67 of the Marshal 1134 02:09:52,500 --> 02:09:59,980 the ground, code of ordinance, including the smoking 50 feet away from the ground. 1135 02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:00,780 On behalf of the Government Office. 1136 02:10:04,410 --> 02:10:07,030 Second, all those in favour please say aye. 1137 02:10:08,030 --> 02:10:08,670 And you pose. 1138 02:10:09,310 --> 02:10:10,190 Second, thank you. 1139 02:10:10,810 --> 02:10:11,510 Thank you. 1140 02:10:13,690 --> 02:10:15,170 Second, thank you. 1141 02:10:15,170 --> 02:10:15,290 Second, thank you. 1142 02:10:16,690 --> 02:10:19,070 Second, thank you. 1143 02:10:19,190 --> 02:10:19,830 Second, thank you. 1144 02:10:19,830 --> 02:10:21,310 Going back 1145 02:10:29,660 --> 02:10:30,220 into order. 1146 02:10:30,620 --> 02:10:33,120 At this time, I'd like to recognize Mark Spanioli, director of engineering. 1147 02:10:33,480 --> 02:10:36,080 You will facilitate our final action item of the evening. 1148 02:10:38,360 --> 02:10:42,760 evening mayor council members for the record marks manually director of engineering. 1149 02:10:43,440 --> 02:10:47,980 Tonight we have an update and brief for the tertiary parks off-mot project. 1150 02:10:48,840 --> 02:10:50,120 Save in the best for last this evening. 1151 02:10:52,550 --> 02:10:53,630 Just a little bit of background. 1152 02:10:54,890 --> 02:11:01,190 In December 2021 the town entered into a development and use agreement with major league cricket folks. 1153 02:11:01,650 --> 02:11:07,510 In preparation for the hosting of cricket sport events at the tertiary parks north lot. 1154 02:11:07,510 --> 02:11:12,050 and then Prumus to the SoftLot, an April of 2022, the Town Passive Resolution, 1155 02:11:12,770 --> 02:11:17,570 authorizing us to enter into an agreement for design build, the delivery of this type of project. 1156 02:11:18,350 --> 02:11:23,110 In July of the same year, we passed a resolution authorizing meter construction to start the phase 1157 02:11:23,110 --> 02:11:28,390 one of the design build, which is the dying phase of the project for not to exceed 200,000. 1158 02:11:28,950 --> 02:11:34,630 And in December of 2022, the Town Passive Resolution authorizing meter construction to continue on with the project 1159 02:11:34,630 --> 02:11:40,110 and commends to a for up to a million dollars to get started with portions of the project, 1160 02:11:40,290 --> 02:11:42,390 which include the parking lot, the practice pitches, 1161 02:11:43,090 --> 02:11:44,310 the fact we're going to associate an infrastructure. 1162 02:11:48,970 --> 02:11:52,830 Here's a current overview of our project, just to go over some of the details, 1163 02:11:53,790 --> 02:11:56,250 to the top part of the pages are existing cricket field, 1164 02:11:56,850 --> 02:11:59,870 and actually you can see some of the proposed improvements on the backside of the field. 1165 02:11:59,970 --> 02:12:01,870 You have some of the new bleachers and so forth, 1166 02:12:03,090 --> 02:12:04,810 but honing in on to the soft lot itself. 1167 02:12:04,810 --> 02:12:12,730 You've got two volleyball courts proposed, sand volleyball, one multi-sport court in between the volleyball and the practice pitches. 1168 02:12:12,930 --> 02:12:21,910 You've got six practice pitches proposed, two basketball courts, a restroom building with a shelter that provides for 18 picnic tables, 1169 02:12:22,890 --> 02:12:30,590 the parking lot, and all the associated sidewalks, walkways, underground utilities, and the Stonewater Control measure on the very left-hand side of the screen. 1170 02:12:33,170 --> 02:12:35,530 So I just wanted to go over a little bit about our phasing. 1171 02:12:35,990 --> 02:12:38,890 When we did come to you in December with our phase 2A, 1172 02:12:39,010 --> 02:12:40,730 this was to get the phase 2A started. 1173 02:12:41,570 --> 02:12:43,170 This was to get some of the work commences, 1174 02:12:43,430 --> 02:12:46,090 so we can try to keep on schedule for our July deadline 1175 02:12:46,090 --> 02:12:47,050 to have all this completed. 1176 02:12:47,810 --> 02:12:50,390 This shows kind of a breakdown of the two, 1177 02:12:50,870 --> 02:12:55,110 but I did want to emphasize that the million dollars at this point 1178 02:12:55,110 --> 02:12:56,830 gets a starter with phase 2A, 1179 02:12:56,890 --> 02:12:58,550 but we would have to allocate some more funds 1180 02:12:58,550 --> 02:13:01,350 to complete the rest of the practice pitches 1181 02:13:01,350 --> 02:13:05,250 parking lot and then the overall project, obviously, would be the phase 2B and everything 1182 02:13:05,250 --> 02:13:07,070 else associated with the program of the project. 1183 02:13:07,470 --> 02:13:10,030 So here you can see the kind of the general breakdown of that. 1184 02:13:13,710 --> 02:13:18,570 So, if I'm project status, phase 2A is on the construction and we started some construction 1185 02:13:18,570 --> 02:13:23,210 surveying and utility locates, you'll start to see some real hard physical construction 1186 02:13:23,210 --> 02:13:29,730 and upcoming days, phase 2B is in the final permitting stages and has been bid by the design 1187 02:13:31,030 --> 02:13:39,590 And again, phase 2 being includes remainder of the work required to complete the parking lot at the practice pitches as well as the all the programming for the park. 1188 02:13:40,310 --> 02:13:45,330 And we have a total project cost based on the complete design now so we're going to go over that momentarily. 1189 02:13:49,190 --> 02:13:57,170 But just a quick refresher. In the end of 2021, we did pass the capital project ordinance for this project. 1190 02:13:57,170 --> 02:14:01,330 It did have allocations for both what I'll call the North Lot, 1191 02:14:01,650 --> 02:14:02,850 what we're doing the remaining expansion, 1192 02:14:03,610 --> 02:14:04,450 because we lost the South Lot. 1193 02:14:04,770 --> 02:14:05,910 And if you break down the South Lot, 1194 02:14:06,030 --> 02:14:09,250 you had approximately 2,000 designated for design, 1195 02:14:09,810 --> 02:14:13,110 and $2 million and $50,000 designated for construction. 1196 02:14:13,190 --> 02:14:16,170 That was the budget that was set back in the 2021. 1197 02:14:20,590 --> 02:14:23,990 So based on our current plans and design build bid results, 1198 02:14:24,650 --> 02:14:29,190 we have a total cost for phase two A at $2 million. 1199 02:14:29,910 --> 02:14:40,030 Our phase 2B is at 2.5 million bringing the total project costs to 4.5 million dollars to provide the entire program for the soft lot. 1200 02:14:40,410 --> 02:14:42,290 And we'll get into some of the details in a minute. 1201 02:14:46,440 --> 02:14:51,040 So just comparing where we were from a budgetary standpoint, back at the end of 2021, 1202 02:14:51,380 --> 02:14:56,960 like I said earlier, we had allocated 2.5 million to 50,000 for the construction phase. 1203 02:14:57,780 --> 02:14:59,960 Our current bid results are coming in at 4.5 million. 1204 02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:03,900 And so we're having a budget shortfall of almost 2.5 million dollars. 1205 02:15:06,190 --> 02:15:10,150 It's to go over some of the general project cost breakdown in details. 1206 02:15:10,830 --> 02:15:17,010 And these are sort of order of magnitude. There are a lot more detail breakdown in our 1207 02:15:17,010 --> 02:15:21,090 actual bid results. But just to kind of summarize in a large number, this gives you a general 1208 02:15:21,090 --> 02:15:25,970 feel and thought of how much things cost. The parking lots about 300,000, the practice 1209 02:15:25,970 --> 02:15:28,970 pitches are 600,000 sidewalks at 275. 1210 02:15:30,170 --> 02:15:32,190 The rest of the Michelle Perbuilding is at 725. 1211 02:15:33,090 --> 02:15:37,970 Your electrical and sport court lighting, which is the musco highlights are 450,000. 1212 02:15:38,550 --> 02:15:42,190 You're cycling grading 300,000, your various sports courts, 1213 02:15:42,410 --> 02:15:45,150 site work and walkways are a little over a million. 1214 02:15:46,130 --> 02:15:49,170 Your construction administration overheading profits at 600,000, 1215 02:15:49,310 --> 02:15:51,990 and then your other insurance bonds and contingency ads 1216 02:15:51,990 --> 02:15:54,330 up to about just under 200,000. 1217 02:15:57,530 --> 02:16:03,450 So since my last update in December, we've had some project cost impacts that we wanted to talk about a little bit here. 1218 02:16:04,090 --> 02:16:09,730 The design was still evolving at that time to try to finish up all the programming needs and 1219 02:16:11,510 --> 02:16:13,230 and amenities that were required for the part. 1220 02:16:13,850 --> 02:16:17,210 So the practice pitches were expanded to meet the needs of Major League Cricket. 1221 02:16:17,710 --> 02:16:24,250 We had to continue doing research along the way, and we determined that larger pitches would be required. 1222 02:16:24,870 --> 02:16:29,790 The location of the practice pitches was swapped with the location of the shelter building. 1223 02:16:30,630 --> 02:16:37,410 This allowed for the expansion of practice pitches but also required some additional land grading and work on the ground. 1224 02:16:39,510 --> 02:16:47,530 We extended the restroom building to accommodate additional storage and also accommodate 18 table shelter area, covered shelter area. 1225 02:16:47,810 --> 02:16:49,430 We added some double doors to the courts. 1226 02:16:50,010 --> 02:16:56,810 We added a considerable amount of heavy-duty grass paper from the shelter to the basketball court to support vehicles traveling through the property. 1227 02:16:57,490 --> 02:17:06,130 It was also extended, extensive use of heavy-duty concrete to support vehicles to pass in and out of the property on the concrete walkways. 1228 02:17:06,690 --> 02:17:12,370 And back in December when I did, when I did come to the council, the design bill team had not fully vetted the design. 1229 02:17:12,370 --> 02:17:17,330 And we have, we have nine details, so the estimate was, 1230 02:17:21,940 --> 02:17:24,140 we have had some, some of the same market factor 1231 02:17:24,140 --> 02:17:26,240 cost issues that we had in Fire Station 3. 1232 02:17:26,960 --> 02:17:30,940 As you know, we did do the original budget back in October of 2021, 1233 02:17:31,200 --> 02:17:32,400 so that was some time ago. 1234 02:17:32,900 --> 02:17:35,620 You've had material labor and fuel cost escalations. 1235 02:17:36,480 --> 02:17:38,140 The escalations have continued to increase 1236 02:17:38,140 --> 02:17:40,160 from October of 2021 to now. 1237 02:17:40,640 --> 02:17:43,640 We do have some reports from associated general contractors, 1238 02:17:43,640 --> 02:17:48,700 which is a press release that comes out that validates some of these cost increases nationwide. 1239 02:17:49,880 --> 02:17:53,400 And we did, we did still throughout the design conduct value engineering exercises, 1240 02:17:53,940 --> 02:17:57,420 and we, without compromising the program requirements, 1241 02:17:57,680 --> 02:18:01,020 we were able to value engineer out $250,000 of costs. 1242 02:18:02,260 --> 02:18:04,640 And Genie made sure that I should say this, 1243 02:18:04,840 --> 02:18:07,500 out loud that these project overdoses, 1244 02:18:07,600 --> 02:18:11,760 if they're approved, will impact alignment and resources to our capital improvement project update. 1245 02:18:14,000 --> 02:18:18,600 All right. Moving into Project Schedule, we've got to 1246 02:18:18,600 --> 02:18:21,660 anticipate finishing the Phase 2A construction in July, and in 1247 02:18:21,660 --> 02:18:25,640 accordance with our agreement. Phase 2B contract award, if 1248 02:18:25,640 --> 02:18:29,420 everything goes as planned, would be scheduled for April of 2023. 1249 02:18:30,460 --> 02:18:33,640 And we'll be completed with the entire project in the winter of 1250 02:18:33,640 --> 02:18:37,620 this year. We're moving along at a good pace. 1251 02:18:41,500 --> 02:18:47,080 So our recommendation is to proceed with the remainder of the 1252 02:18:47,080 --> 02:18:51,060 By awarding the construction contract and approving the capital project, 1253 02:18:51,200 --> 02:18:52,020 awarding its amendment, 1254 02:18:53,360 --> 02:18:54,300 I submitted in your package. 1255 02:18:56,880 --> 02:18:58,580 Questions you may have? 1256 02:18:59,040 --> 02:19:01,360 Council Member Garamel, please follow by Council Member Body. 1257 02:19:02,680 --> 02:19:04,080 Thanks, Mark, for the presentation. 1258 02:19:04,340 --> 02:19:06,970 Can you go back to slide where there's a change of scope? 1259 02:19:10,920 --> 02:19:12,420 So when I hear a read this, 1260 02:19:12,440 --> 02:19:15,160 like practice, which is where I expanded to meet the needs of 1261 02:19:17,790 --> 02:19:17,850 me. 1262 02:19:18,070 --> 02:19:19,370 I page to a full page, right? 1263 02:19:21,310 --> 02:19:25,570 I'm not that familiar with half and full, but it went from a certain length to a longer length. 1264 02:19:25,810 --> 02:19:31,210 It may have been considered half and full, I'm not that familiar with half and full, like 22 yards and like you know that. 1265 02:19:31,490 --> 02:19:41,230 So was that in the MOU when they started that half or full were they not clear, because there's a dimension creep, you know, that's where I'm coming down to it. 1266 02:19:41,410 --> 02:19:44,410 So I'd have to go back and verify the exact language. 1267 02:19:44,410 --> 02:19:50,890 I know it talks about practice pitches, that would support the major league cricket, but 1268 02:19:50,890 --> 02:19:52,570 whether it's at half or full, I can't remember. 1269 02:19:52,630 --> 02:19:55,750 There's really practice pitches all across the world, I don't even have. 1270 02:19:56,210 --> 02:19:58,570 That's that's pretty much the defector, you know, that they do. 1271 02:19:59,510 --> 02:19:59,970 So, the reason... 1272 02:20:00,000 --> 02:20:03,500 And if we go back one slide with the cost, 1273 02:20:07,770 --> 02:20:24,510 what I'm trying to see is what was our commitment to and our commitment to AIS was parking lot and the rest of our, what we as a council wanted as additional things. 1274 02:20:24,510 --> 02:20:29,050 Correct. So I have no issues with the additional things that we 1275 02:20:29,050 --> 02:20:33,430 now wanted, because that is to make it more difficult and further. 1276 02:20:35,230 --> 02:20:41,350 The concern I have is, is put 1.2 per million. It did value engineering. 1277 02:20:42,970 --> 02:20:47,510 It did their budget. They didn't go over and beyond their 1.25. 1278 02:20:48,530 --> 02:20:54,370 So just a minor correction there. When the final bits came in for the many expansion 1279 02:20:54,370 --> 02:21:02,330 project, their contribution ended up being more than 1.25 million. I want to say it was about 1.35, 1280 02:21:02,690 --> 02:21:06,590 but I don't have the exact 100,000. Yeah, I'm just, yeah, it ended up being a little bit more, 1281 02:21:06,730 --> 02:21:10,610 just for a long time. So sort of thing is for us, it's like 1282 02:21:12,820 --> 02:21:14,940 committed to something, 1283 02:21:16,080 --> 02:21:23,520 RV in that budget, I want to like, you know, ensure that we are, I don't want to go higher than what we 1284 02:21:23,520 --> 02:21:30,040 promise them because they are not going either. So the rest of the other things, I'm totally fine 1285 02:21:30,040 --> 02:21:34,960 because those are our amenities for our people and they will enjoy that. 1286 02:21:37,060 --> 02:21:38,400 And how can we basically 1287 02:21:39,740 --> 02:21:48,500 put an indirect I want to say, what is it I'm with you? So that this is what we said and this is 1288 02:21:48,500 --> 02:21:51,620 more, so now we can probably be glad about that. 1289 02:21:52,140 --> 02:21:58,080 Yeah, so the MOU was, my recollection was somewhat generic. 1290 02:21:58,560 --> 02:22:00,840 It's spoke about the practice pitches and the parking lot. 1291 02:22:01,400 --> 02:22:03,220 There was a side plan that was included. 1292 02:22:03,360 --> 02:22:04,180 There was amended. 1293 02:22:04,380 --> 02:22:07,760 And one of the updates that we did a few months ago. 1294 02:22:09,580 --> 02:22:13,140 But we actually, at that time, we actually reduced the number parking 1295 02:22:13,140 --> 02:22:15,060 the original side plan had a certain amount of parking. 1296 02:22:15,060 --> 02:22:18,620 I think it was 90 something we went down to 60. 1297 02:22:19,460 --> 02:22:20,560 It was accepted by ACE. 1298 02:22:20,720 --> 02:22:23,900 On the practice pitch side, it was just a generic drawing 1299 02:22:23,900 --> 02:22:25,020 and a shorter like a rectangle. 1300 02:22:25,100 --> 02:22:26,240 It didn't specify. 1301 02:22:29,040 --> 02:22:30,780 And I hear that. 1302 02:22:32,520 --> 02:22:38,360 So my main concern is they have also gone down in there, 1303 02:22:38,540 --> 02:22:41,200 because the press release had 2000 or something. 1304 02:22:41,440 --> 02:22:42,640 And now they're doing only 1,300. 1305 02:22:44,040 --> 02:22:49,460 So, I think, I don't want to get shortchange as simple as I can say, you know, I want 1306 02:22:49,460 --> 02:22:57,320 fair and equal that what are they doing, because for us, it's overhead costs. 1307 02:22:59,040 --> 02:23:07,480 And I don't see a 20% increase on their side because you're saying it's less than 100,000 1308 02:23:07,480 --> 02:23:10,500 and person compared to hours like 20, 25, 1309 02:23:10,800 --> 02:23:17,660 but as a whole, so we put them to add more on their side, 1310 02:23:17,680 --> 02:23:19,220 because they promised something, 1311 02:23:19,420 --> 02:23:22,800 but they're valiant here and on theirs to give us a little bit. 1312 02:23:23,760 --> 02:23:25,480 I'm sure we can. 1313 02:23:26,040 --> 02:23:29,520 I think the administration would be happy to ask the ace 1314 02:23:29,520 --> 02:23:31,020 to contribute more. 1315 02:23:32,100 --> 02:23:33,860 And we can certainly take that back. 1316 02:23:34,220 --> 02:23:36,160 We're paying, you know, 1317 02:23:36,160 --> 02:23:40,220 for over there in Boston, and then we're locked in for 10 years. 1318 02:23:40,680 --> 02:23:40,700 Good. 1319 02:23:41,340 --> 02:23:41,920 What is that? 1320 02:23:45,990 --> 02:23:47,950 First of all, we're talking to Shonson, followed by Councilman Robotic. 1321 02:23:48,790 --> 02:23:49,320 Thank you. 1322 02:23:52,200 --> 02:23:59,820 This is kind of doubling the price of what our original estimate was last year. 1323 02:24:01,880 --> 02:24:03,980 Not unexpected as all the increases. 1324 02:24:05,480 --> 02:24:06,600 The fact is pitch. 1325 02:24:06,840 --> 02:24:12,560 If that is double what we originally estimated that I agree with Councilman Robotic, 1326 02:24:12,560 --> 02:24:25,180 You know, that is an unanticipated requirement, and it should be renegotiated as far as how that is supported by each of the parties. 1327 02:24:25,240 --> 02:24:31,100 So I think that in and of itself is one example of where the requirements did change. 1328 02:24:37,140 --> 02:24:43,600 Happy to see the timeline included the full scope of the project by the end of this year. 1329 02:24:43,600 --> 02:24:52,320 It's a concern, it's with the doubling of the cost, fighting our own town, residents, the 1330 02:24:52,320 --> 02:24:59,020 amenities that we were careful about, providing to them with the courts and the multi-use. 1331 02:25:00,140 --> 02:25:05,260 Now, as we're building this other support for the cricket, 1332 02:25:11,520 --> 02:25:18,080 why we are reinforcing the courts and some of the areas for 1333 02:25:21,050 --> 02:25:30,110 not just parking perhaps, but is it, are you reinforcing them in the basketball courts or in the walkway so they can have food trucks or? 1334 02:25:30,110 --> 02:25:43,710 It's primarily for maintenance access, not only for public works, but also for the combination of public works having to be able to get to all these areas of the park in vehicles. 1335 02:25:44,330 --> 02:25:53,070 And then there is some of the uses for ACE near the parking lot and the practice pitch is getting vehicles in and out there for special events is a combination. 1336 02:25:53,070 --> 02:25:53,770 is 1337 02:26:00,750 --> 02:26:08,350 this an arch of eligible project or is this general fund or is this a 1338 02:26:20,640 --> 02:26:21,060 better 1339 02:26:21,060 --> 02:26:28,460 the options give it answer you know I think I think she might I know is a CPOA in the 1340 02:26:28,460 --> 02:26:39,620 back but I'm not sure if it's so yeah so primarily the funds are coming from Parkland 1341 02:26:39,620 --> 02:26:47,520 even in the loop, but that will impact other projects that were estimated in your CIP, your 1342 02:26:47,520 --> 02:26:52,240 current existing CIP, primarily the Church Street Country Creek Network. 1343 02:26:52,800 --> 02:26:58,560 So we'll have to re-align that as part of this next update, re-balance those funding sources 1344 02:26:58,560 --> 02:27:05,460 potential, and the other small pieces coming from it is we had some bond premium that was 1345 02:27:05,460 --> 02:27:08,220 was available that we were able to pull. 1346 02:27:08,420 --> 02:27:10,180 But primarily, it's part of the pain in my life. 1347 02:27:10,660 --> 02:27:11,680 Great, thank you very much. 1348 02:27:14,490 --> 02:27:14,990 Body, please. 1349 02:27:15,630 --> 02:27:18,990 So it's not actually clear to me that it was ace 1350 02:27:18,990 --> 02:27:21,570 that told us that we needed to double the size 1351 02:27:21,570 --> 02:27:23,050 of the practice agency. 1352 02:27:23,490 --> 02:27:25,170 How exactly was that determined? 1353 02:27:25,470 --> 02:27:28,610 So just to be clear, it didn't double the size. 1354 02:27:28,830 --> 02:27:31,010 It grew by about 30% of this, sorry. 1355 02:27:31,370 --> 02:27:33,910 I guess an engineer in me, I can't help but to at least get 1356 02:27:33,910 --> 02:27:34,330 the number right. 1357 02:27:34,330 --> 02:27:46,170 But it was a combination of these promoting that because they bring some experience from outside that we don't. 1358 02:27:46,330 --> 02:27:59,570 And then we went and actually confirmed our parks department checked with some of the other places like in Texas and stuff that they're developing these fields to try to get information whether it made sense to put the bigger picture not. 1359 02:27:59,570 --> 02:28:03,190 I don't know enough about the sport I'll be on, so I don't have a lot of those details, 1360 02:28:03,990 --> 02:28:10,310 but I would say Ace was probably in the front seat of making that request and then we kind of 1361 02:28:10,310 --> 02:28:14,490 work together to figure out if it made sense for our project if we're going to 1362 02:28:14,490 --> 02:28:21,550 promote majorly cricket at the space. Okay, and then there were, were there, design costs associated 1363 02:28:22,370 --> 02:28:27,910 with swapping the restroom building and the pitches to accommodate the larger pitches. 1364 02:28:28,870 --> 02:28:39,010 There is a request for a small amount of designing crease costs, but it's for the property in general because we made a lot of adjustments not just that. 1365 02:28:39,550 --> 02:28:51,630 Okay, so speaking of the other adjustments, where did the request for just an 18 table picnic shelter come from? That is a huge picnic gift shelter. 1366 02:28:51,630 --> 02:28:54,730 So that came from the Parks Department as part of their programming. 1367 02:28:55,770 --> 02:29:00,570 It's becoming, I guess, more common place to have shelters with the picnic tables. 1368 02:29:01,350 --> 02:29:03,570 Then we're to the shelter we have at Morrisville Community Park. 1369 02:29:03,670 --> 02:29:05,710 Apparently those are well reserved and well used. 1370 02:29:06,530 --> 02:29:09,910 So there was a request and a desire to have that shelter space. 1371 02:29:10,010 --> 02:29:11,970 I don't know, you know, I'm not into the park side of it. 1372 02:29:12,010 --> 02:29:14,630 So I'm all the details of that, but that there was a request from the parks for that. 1373 02:29:14,750 --> 02:29:18,850 So what was the difference in cost between the original planned 1374 02:29:19,690 --> 02:29:25,390 restrooms and shelter and the current 18, 18 picked a table shelter. 1375 02:29:25,870 --> 02:29:30,450 If my memory doesn't fail me, the original cost estimate for the building was half as much. 1376 02:29:36,650 --> 02:29:42,630 I 100% agree with Council Member Garamela that any changes that were instituted by ace 1377 02:29:42,630 --> 02:29:47,730 that were not part of the original design. I think they should pay for. 1378 02:29:50,900 --> 02:29:51,880 I'm not sure what to say 1379 02:29:51,880 --> 02:29:59,980 this thing has doubled in cost. I understand market conditions, but I don't, we literally 1380 02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:04,400 Early can not afford to do one thing that's not in that contract. 1381 02:30:04,700 --> 02:30:05,600 I mean, 1382 02:30:08,240 --> 02:30:10,540 I think this is pretty appalling, actually. 1383 02:30:12,020 --> 02:30:19,260 And there's nothing else on this list. Okay, so the picture table came from Parks and Rec. 1384 02:30:20,040 --> 02:30:31,220 I get that. I mean, there's nothing else really on this list that we can, that we can conceivably do without, is that correct? 1385 02:30:31,220 --> 02:30:38,660 And if you want to maintain the programming as displayed in the site plan, you could not. 1386 02:30:39,940 --> 02:30:44,740 At this point, we've, you know, part of the value engineering we did was we looked at every 1387 02:30:44,740 --> 02:30:49,820 detail we could and it's harder with courts, like if you have a building you can change finishes 1388 02:30:49,820 --> 02:30:54,280 and try to cut costs there, but with like sport courts, there's not a lot of cutting. 1389 02:30:54,640 --> 02:30:56,620 It's, you know, it's a coffee slimy, but you're surfacing on it. 1390 02:30:56,680 --> 02:31:00,660 There isn't a lot of like options for it to be to work. 1391 02:31:00,660 --> 02:31:08,220 So we went in and tried to make adjustments everywhere we could to reduce costs here at this 1392 02:31:08,220 --> 02:31:08,560 property. 1393 02:31:09,480 --> 02:31:12,060 And you said, I'm sorry, the cost breakdown. 1394 02:31:12,340 --> 02:31:20,500 Is there a breakdown or the courts broken out in these in the, I don't have it with me on 1395 02:31:20,500 --> 02:31:21,060 the slides. 1396 02:31:21,580 --> 02:31:27,320 But we do have the, this is like a very, a bridge version of a very, like, no, I'm sure. 1397 02:31:27,680 --> 02:31:30,080 I just, I mean, I hate to even float this balloon. 1398 02:31:30,080 --> 02:31:36,640 but I feel like we're there like it's a shame because what the people that actually live here 1399 02:31:36,640 --> 02:31:43,600 are getting out of this is the courts and those amenities, but I mean, you know, should we 1400 02:31:43,600 --> 02:31:51,940 look at maybe not doing the sport court? I mean, does that get us any kind of return? I mean, 1401 02:31:52,720 --> 02:31:55,400 I don't love any other, but I'm, I mean, 1402 02:31:58,940 --> 02:32:01,840 okay, all right, I guess that's everything. It doesn't 1403 02:32:01,840 --> 02:32:05,500 look like there's anything to do about it. Thank you. 1404 02:32:08,210 --> 02:32:10,770 I'll go follow by Councilman Rao. 1405 02:32:11,770 --> 02:32:15,550 I guess on this slide, a separate question, where it says pitches? 1406 02:32:16,650 --> 02:32:19,130 Yes. What is that large length space? 1407 02:32:20,190 --> 02:32:21,110 Right, of the pitches? 1408 02:32:21,670 --> 02:32:22,490 Where it says pitches? 1409 02:32:22,570 --> 02:32:24,590 Oh, the actual word, it's green area. 1410 02:32:24,950 --> 02:32:26,150 That's a nice green space. 1411 02:32:28,570 --> 02:32:32,050 And the picnic tables, how does that compare to the Marsville community 1412 02:32:32,050 --> 02:32:33,790 in the park shelter, do we have 18? 1413 02:32:35,370 --> 02:32:38,210 Unforable size, it might be bigger. 1414 02:32:38,610 --> 02:32:39,790 I don't know how many there are. 1415 02:32:39,850 --> 02:32:40,670 There are a lot of tables there. 1416 02:32:40,730 --> 02:32:43,310 Could we, if anybody know how many tables are there? 1417 02:32:43,450 --> 02:32:43,970 I mean, 1418 02:32:47,380 --> 02:32:48,080 about the same. 1419 02:32:48,180 --> 02:32:50,860 It might be about the same, 99, really nice. 1420 02:32:50,940 --> 02:32:52,760 There's a lot of tables there, yeah. 1421 02:32:52,860 --> 02:32:54,820 So just to refresh a little bit, 1422 02:32:55,140 --> 02:32:57,060 I thought one of the attractions of design build 1423 02:32:57,060 --> 02:32:58,840 was you lock in a price, 1424 02:33:00,950 --> 02:33:03,470 21, lock something in, 1425 02:33:03,670 --> 02:33:06,150 but then we changed it, and things changed. 1426 02:33:07,710 --> 02:33:10,850 So the lock-in happens when the design is completed. 1427 02:33:12,230 --> 02:33:19,070 So once the design is completed, then because it's at the point where we entered into the original agreement with them, 1428 02:33:19,130 --> 02:33:20,990 all we had was a budget estimate that we developed. 1429 02:33:21,690 --> 02:33:25,870 So you can't lock in the general guaranteed maximum price until you've got the design. 1430 02:33:26,410 --> 02:33:31,950 So what that means for us is if we lock in this price, there won't be change orders along the way. 1431 02:33:31,950 --> 02:33:36,390 on a conventional project, you get your base fit and then you can still have various 1432 02:33:36,390 --> 02:33:38,770 changes where it has happened throughout the process of construction. 1433 02:33:39,330 --> 02:33:43,910 But once you lock in this price, this is what they've got to build the project with this 1434 02:33:43,910 --> 02:33:46,630 programming even if it costs some twice as much. 1435 02:33:47,490 --> 02:33:52,750 Are we in the position that we can only lock to a hour, can we lock to a and to b? 1436 02:33:53,570 --> 02:33:58,510 We're in a position with the information we have from contractor to lock in both when we're ready. 1437 02:33:58,570 --> 02:34:00,390 We're ready to do that. 1438 02:34:01,050 --> 02:34:07,350 important thing to think about. One on the pricing slide said sport court lighting 1439 02:34:09,420 --> 02:34:14,920 all the courts, including the sand volleyball, are going to be lit. Yes. All the courts. 1440 02:34:15,420 --> 02:34:19,880 That's be really clear about that. This is for all the courts. Yes. Only the sport court. 1441 02:34:20,080 --> 02:34:25,870 Yeah, I mean the all the courts and that's a good point. Yeah, that's a good point. 1442 02:34:27,290 --> 02:34:29,030 Are the pitches lit, sir? 1443 02:34:30,470 --> 02:34:30,770 Yes. 1444 02:34:32,250 --> 02:34:37,810 And the cost, what do you think is pitch cost, lighting in? 1445 02:34:38,150 --> 02:34:38,290 Yes. 1446 02:34:39,730 --> 02:34:44,350 The pitches have their own lighting, netting, fencing. 1447 02:34:56,680 --> 02:34:57,640 Those were my questions. 1448 02:34:58,040 --> 02:34:58,840 Thank you very much. 1449 02:35:02,700 --> 02:35:12,200 Just with the, um, I just want to clarify that by the end of the project, the two basketball courts will be completed, right? Yes. 1450 02:35:12,700 --> 02:35:14,840 Two basketball courts. Okay. All right. 1451 02:35:14,960 --> 02:35:17,000 What you see in this slide here. 1452 02:35:17,740 --> 02:35:23,860 I'm going to ask about two basketball courts, two sand volleyball, one multi-sport court, the restroom shelter building, 1453 02:35:24,020 --> 02:35:29,040 practice pitches, parking lot and associated infrastructure utilities and 1454 02:35:29,040 --> 02:35:36,460 Okay, and then we renovated our shadow basketball court. So we'll have three that's gonna be that's that's right that prodigy's actually out to bid now 1455 02:35:36,460 --> 02:35:38,280 Okay, great 1456 02:35:38,280 --> 02:35:40,620 And the multi-sport could be 1457 02:35:40,620 --> 02:35:45,890 Those were you could just do different sports on there, right? That's right. It'll have markings for various sports including I think we're 1458 02:35:47,040 --> 02:35:49,050 Yes, I think basketball is included as a third 1459 02:35:50,480 --> 02:35:54,160 Okay, thank you 1460 02:35:55,500 --> 02:35:56,640 Don't say followed by a councilman 1461 02:35:57,920 --> 02:36:01,520 So I I'm I'm the NAACO council member of bodies 1462 02:36:02,200 --> 02:36:08,440 comments, I'm, yeah, this is a lot of money, but not, as council member described in 1463 02:36:08,440 --> 02:36:13,440 Johnson said, not I'm not surprising, because costs are going up. Everything is going up. 1464 02:36:14,580 --> 02:36:19,220 And I, I look at this too and try to figure out, okay, what could we maybe season or take 1465 02:36:19,220 --> 02:36:25,540 out? And the only thing that I would question is the sand volleyball, but that probably is 1466 02:36:27,960 --> 02:36:39,040 It doesn't make sense to take that out because the other, all the other amenities are needed and I'm also going to echo the comments from 1467 02:36:39,040 --> 02:36:47,200 Councilman Garamela about if there were changes you requested by ACE and they need to help cover these costs, what the total costs. 1468 02:36:47,840 --> 02:36:49,540 So I'm fine with that. 1469 02:36:49,540 --> 02:36:52,680 We think you all go back and push it back on that. 1470 02:36:54,280 --> 02:36:54,320 Yeah. 1471 02:36:54,780 --> 02:37:02,480 And then I guess the only other question I have then is maybe for Jeannie, but the money 1472 02:37:02,480 --> 02:37:03,740 comes from PIL. 1473 02:37:04,560 --> 02:37:10,540 Where does this leave our PIL fund and then what is our projection? 1474 02:37:10,740 --> 02:37:14,220 Because we know there are some projects and I know this is just a projection. 1475 02:37:14,500 --> 02:37:17,700 I know there are some projects coming in the near future. 1476 02:37:17,700 --> 02:37:23,040 What is the projection for some of that being replenished as well? 1477 02:37:23,720 --> 02:37:25,240 So we've looked at that. 1478 02:37:26,540 --> 02:37:29,760 So we have about five million for Parkland Payment Allure. 1479 02:37:30,020 --> 02:37:32,500 So this will drop it down to about half. 1480 02:37:32,900 --> 02:37:36,820 You needed more than four million for Crab Tree Creek Nature Park. 1481 02:37:36,820 --> 02:37:39,920 I think it's a closer to the fiveish. 1482 02:37:40,520 --> 02:37:43,040 That's the next project that we had. 1483 02:37:43,040 --> 02:37:50,860 We swapped the allocation of bond money to move to town green with the Parkland payment 1484 02:37:50,860 --> 02:37:55,560 in lieu, funding the Criptry Creek Nature Park in the future in the near future. 1485 02:37:55,880 --> 02:38:00,560 So we'll have to resolve that problem and that'll be a part of our update with the CIP. 1486 02:38:01,800 --> 02:38:06,620 So with that said, looking ahead at what's in the future, we can only speculate based on 1487 02:38:06,620 --> 02:38:14,300 project conversations out there that we have about potentially in 24-9-100 is what we're 1488 02:38:14,300 --> 02:38:20,440 estimating possibly to come in. There are some projects that we're working to finish their 1489 02:38:20,440 --> 02:38:25,140 active projects right now that we're trying to close out. There might be funds that we could also 1490 02:38:25,140 --> 02:38:30,740 send back to PIL to replenish that it's not going to be all of it, but at least puts us in the right 1491 02:38:30,740 --> 02:38:36,600 direction. So that's our strategy. That's what we have to work with right now as we 1492 02:38:36,600 --> 02:38:44,340 work with updating the CIP. And it's not a ARPA eligible project for the way in which we 1493 02:38:44,340 --> 02:38:48,760 bid this project for church street. So that's why we didn't use ARPA. 1494 02:38:52,720 --> 02:39:00,480 Yeah, this idea of locking in is, I think, important. I don't, I don't anticipate anything coming 1495 02:39:00,480 --> 02:39:06,360 down in price. It just seems like everything is continuing to escalate phenomena. 1496 02:39:10,430 --> 02:39:10,990 So those 1497 02:39:10,990 --> 02:39:14,030 Well, my question is for now. 1498 02:39:28,130 --> 02:39:31,150 Can you talk a little bit more about that? 1499 02:39:32,670 --> 02:39:34,790 That wasn't included, originally. 1500 02:39:37,090 --> 02:39:38,190 That's a good question. 1501 02:39:38,350 --> 02:39:43,370 I think when we did our initial estimate back at the end of 2012, 1502 02:39:43,370 --> 02:39:49,330 21 is a very preliminary side plan, so we're just laying out spaces. 1503 02:39:50,730 --> 02:39:55,150 I don't think we would have been dissipated that necessarily, you know, maybe, I don't 1504 02:39:55,150 --> 02:39:58,070 want to say it's oversight on our part, but when you're looking at it from just a preliminary 1505 02:39:58,070 --> 02:39:59,970 side plan, you see it as five foot wide concrete. 1506 02:40:00,000 --> 02:40:11,880 And you're not always thinking at a preliminary level of what kind of concrete looking and what kind of operating function the property will have. So that may have been overlooked at that time. 1507 02:40:12,980 --> 02:40:25,580 And then at this point, it's been a collaboration of our parks, public works and the ace folks to accommodate the various uses and operations and how we would need those spaces to function. 1508 02:40:26,180 --> 02:40:29,840 So, we had to add some of that heavy-duty concrete and grass-pave and stuff like that. 1509 02:40:34,840 --> 02:40:35,240 So, 1510 02:40:41,420 --> 02:40:44,400 without cutting programming, I don't think so. 1511 02:40:44,720 --> 02:40:49,000 I mean, we've spent a lot of time with this. 1512 02:40:49,040 --> 02:40:52,480 You know, like I mentioned earlier, you know, our parking lies, you know, as asphalt. 1513 02:40:53,760 --> 02:40:57,600 Everything we're using for stone water infrastructure, we're using 1514 02:40:58,300 --> 02:41:01,300 ASTP pipe is at a concrete on some of the underground stuff. 1515 02:41:01,600 --> 02:41:04,260 Cords are concrete and asphalt. 1516 02:41:04,380 --> 02:41:08,280 I mean, it really isn't a lot of like, it's not marble and granite and porcelain tile. 1517 02:41:08,440 --> 02:41:13,900 I mean, it's just, you don't have those flexibility when you're doing basic sport courts and that thing. 1518 02:41:14,860 --> 02:41:20,340 You know, maybe the, like some of you mentioned maybe the shelter building could have been smaller, that kind of thing. 1519 02:41:21,100 --> 02:41:27,000 But my question was more specific just to the heavy duty concrete. 1520 02:41:27,540 --> 02:41:27,940 Oh, 1521 02:41:30,620 --> 02:41:36,560 we actually did make some changes, actually since you mentioned that the center, the central, 1522 02:41:36,660 --> 02:41:40,300 I'll call it the central walkway that kind of goes from the parking lot all the way to the 1523 02:41:40,300 --> 02:41:44,800 volleyball and it has the ends in the circle. That used to be heavy duty concrete, we saw 1524 02:41:44,800 --> 02:41:50,720 it out to asphalt. So we did make some of those adjustments along the way, because the asphalt, 1525 02:41:50,720 --> 02:41:56,220 heavy duty asphalt could support the truckloads and it was cheaper in the concrete. So we made some 1526 02:41:56,220 --> 02:42:04,180 adjustments as well as between the practice pitches and the grandstands that used to all be 1527 02:42:04,180 --> 02:42:09,960 heavy duty concrete and we modified a lot of that to just be walkways and actually it's not 1528 02:42:09,960 --> 02:42:13,920 pictured here very well but a large portion of that is just grass. It's open area. 1529 02:42:13,920 --> 02:42:23,580 Oh, yes, my other thought would be me if there was anything we could do. 1530 02:42:24,540 --> 02:42:29,120 I would choose the multi-sport court 1531 02:42:31,750 --> 02:42:32,890 as an option. 1532 02:42:33,290 --> 02:42:40,770 I would like to see us still include basketball court, volleyball court, because there's 1533 02:42:40,770 --> 02:42:49,630 I'm to remember, Garamela, saying that that's the extra amenities for residents, that 1534 02:42:49,630 --> 02:42:57,990 more people can use, that would still be at the benefit of having volleyball and basketball 1535 02:42:57,990 --> 02:42:59,390 out of the amenities. 1536 02:43:09,600 --> 02:43:13,080 I've had an opportunity to ask questions in the comments that we're going to do a second 1537 02:43:13,080 --> 02:43:15,720 round for anyone who wishes Council Member Garamela. 1538 02:43:17,030 --> 02:43:27,220 I think, for my recollection, the heavy-duty concrete is because you've seen last time 1539 02:43:27,220 --> 02:43:28,020 when a 1540 02:43:34,480 --> 02:43:39,120 that could be one of the things like because if you put a regular, you know, 1541 02:43:42,880 --> 02:43:42,900 that 1542 02:43:42,900 --> 02:43:49,040 could be one of the reasons, but my main question is, okay, we see the cost, obviously the 1543 02:43:49,040 --> 02:43:56,540 go back to is, but how do we program these M&ET? Or is it like in other practice, which is 1544 02:43:56,540 --> 02:44:04,480 going to be free public or are we going to charge? Because these are heavy hefty fees that 1545 02:44:04,480 --> 02:44:06,280 we are paying to do it. 1546 02:44:08,400 --> 02:44:12,600 How do you program this into our parks and wrecks reservation type? 1547 02:44:12,800 --> 02:44:19,240 You know, that is my main question. And how do we monetize? I mean, I say monetize at least 1548 02:44:19,240 --> 02:44:24,880 not to the level like, you know, to recruit the cost, but at least, how do we put a sanity to it? 1549 02:44:24,880 --> 02:44:29,880 It's not like first complex, so everyone will be doing, you know, basketball, like, 1550 02:44:30,640 --> 02:44:32,200 you know, who are we are clocking on? 1551 02:44:34,720 --> 02:44:38,180 I'll even put the sanity around there, and I'll also have, I don't know, programming, 1552 02:44:38,900 --> 02:44:43,380 whether they do online, you know, booking, like we talked about for other things. 1553 02:44:44,860 --> 02:44:46,620 I'll take that back to the parks department. 1554 02:44:46,860 --> 02:44:49,060 I'm not that clear on the function of that. 1555 02:44:49,060 --> 02:44:53,120 I don't know if anybody else is, but that certainly, to me, is an option. 1556 02:44:53,120 --> 02:44:58,440 certainly for the practice pitches, they are, if they get built this way, I want to see their 1557 02:44:58,440 --> 02:44:59,960 state of the art, we are putting... 1558 02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:10,900 They look great in some of our renderings, you know, some of our artificial terms. I mean, there's a lot going on with those, so I could see that that could potentially be an option, but I'd want to speak for the Parks Department. 1559 02:45:18,560 --> 02:45:25,580 So I think you recognize that our practice and up to this point has not been to charge for that type of amenity. 1560 02:45:25,580 --> 02:45:31,400 You know, we have done some work, I think, to keep saying, we, I've not done our staff has done some work. 1561 02:45:32,100 --> 02:45:43,440 You know, particularly relevant would be the batting cages at Shilow, you know, at one point we're having some pushback about them being sort of reserved all the time by TCL. 1562 02:45:43,720 --> 02:45:46,700 And this is just an example. This is not to be critical of TCL. 1563 02:45:47,580 --> 02:45:52,060 But staff was able to work with them sort of clarify what the expectations were, 1564 02:45:52,060 --> 02:45:55,940 clarify that it was not sort of a reserved use, but it was a shared use. 1565 02:45:56,320 --> 02:46:00,960 So I think we have the same opportunity to do that, particularly as we open a new facility. 1566 02:46:02,340 --> 02:46:06,780 Now again, these practice pitches may be a little bit different, because they will have to be reserved 1567 02:46:08,160 --> 02:46:11,940 when ACE is here with particularly major and minor league cricket. 1568 02:46:12,760 --> 02:46:17,460 That's again part of the attraction of bringing those teams is having a place to practice, 1569 02:46:17,460 --> 02:46:21,660 you know, particularly if they're in like a multi-team tournament or the playoffs or things like that. 1570 02:46:21,660 --> 02:46:30,700 So I think we are best to start addressing it in that way, rather than necessarily trying to get a fee out of it. 1571 02:46:30,900 --> 02:46:34,260 And again, we can always circle back on that later if it's an issue. 1572 02:46:37,040 --> 02:46:38,060 because 1573 02:46:40,300 --> 02:46:43,440 it's to be like practices where 1574 02:46:47,820 --> 02:46:50,520 they are charging revenue. 1575 02:46:51,160 --> 02:46:56,080 I don't want our grounds to be a freebie basically. 1576 02:46:57,140 --> 02:47:02,820 You're coming in a 600,000 practice pitch and their own coach. 1577 02:47:03,760 --> 02:47:05,980 So what is it for the town? Because maybe. 1578 02:47:10,490 --> 02:47:12,110 And it's obviously it's not a blanket. 1579 02:47:12,410 --> 02:47:12,550 It's easy. 1580 02:47:21,830 --> 02:47:23,030 I'll just... 1581 02:47:23,030 --> 02:47:28,070 I feel like they said, you know, from shallow, like, you know, 1582 02:47:28,070 --> 02:47:30,570 Those are all issues who come very quickly here 1583 02:47:30,570 --> 02:47:32,230 and the same thing with the volleyball court. 1584 02:47:32,270 --> 02:47:34,270 So I can see, you know, on average, 1585 02:47:35,470 --> 02:47:38,810 the way I should play a lot of volleyball, 1586 02:47:39,930 --> 02:47:41,430 we know that. 1587 02:47:41,430 --> 02:47:43,370 I have to reserve them, you know? 1588 02:47:43,430 --> 02:47:45,190 It is not reserve, yeah, it's a free play. 1589 02:47:45,450 --> 02:47:48,530 I have to reserve and we pay money for that. 1590 02:47:49,630 --> 02:47:50,210 Yes, sir. 1591 02:47:50,890 --> 02:47:52,190 Something has to be done. 1592 02:47:52,810 --> 02:47:52,810 Otherwise, 1593 02:47:55,430 --> 02:47:56,330 I agree, like, you know, 1594 02:47:56,330 --> 02:47:57,830 where are we having, you know, 1595 02:48:14,560 --> 02:48:22,220 I would say the shelter is an opportunity for revenue. That would be consistent with the way we do with the other. 1596 02:48:22,380 --> 02:48:24,200 So that is certainly a revenue opportunity. 1597 02:48:24,200 --> 02:48:29,800 you know I think the practice pitches are unique and we'll deal with those to make sure 1598 02:48:29,800 --> 02:48:36,300 that that remains a shared use and then addressing any of the others would be you know 1599 02:48:36,300 --> 02:48:39,860 more of a change in philosophy that we just need to look at and consider. 1600 02:48:41,320 --> 02:48:47,790 Absolutely because there's a lot of correct me if I'm wrong and Steve you play tennis like 1601 02:48:47,790 --> 02:48:50,530 There is, you will, 1602 02:48:55,980 --> 02:49:01,620 so there's a consistency right there, you know, a big of your parks, you know, 1603 02:49:01,780 --> 02:49:02,240 the textbook. 1604 02:49:03,700 --> 02:49:06,760 So, we need to have some kind of consistency here, otherwise. 1605 02:49:07,480 --> 02:49:10,180 There are a lot of issues. 1606 02:49:10,820 --> 02:49:11,800 We know our more complex. 1607 02:49:11,980 --> 02:49:16,740 We need to, you know, people come and enjoy, and everyone gets some people, 1608 02:49:16,940 --> 02:49:20,360 chance and not like a party that is using 24. 1609 02:49:21,520 --> 02:49:23,360 staff shares your goals. 1610 02:49:27,440 --> 02:49:30,920 So this is an item which is evolving and as it goes 1611 02:49:30,920 --> 02:49:32,780 operational make 1612 02:49:35,780 --> 02:49:39,320 things happen. Remember time Johnson? So Mark we just talked about 1613 02:49:39,320 --> 02:49:43,900 a couple of things we want to give more information on what what what kind of time 1614 02:49:43,900 --> 02:49:48,180 frame are we looking at for a decision on this? How critical is this to make a 1615 02:49:48,180 --> 02:49:54,620 decision to weeks? Go ahead Brian Argo would bring it back for action at the next 1616 02:49:55,820 --> 02:49:59,480 We will work very hard to get all these answers. 1617 02:50:00,000 --> 02:50:15,320 So that we can come back with answers. That's part of the second. The action, I guess. I think we can do that. We talked to Ace, they leave almost because we're trying to move this along quickly. So getting to them and getting that information together can be done relatively quickly. 1618 02:50:18,980 --> 02:50:23,300 Don't see any other questions, but yeah, to close us out. The expectation is that we'll be voting on this on the 28. 1619 02:50:24,640 --> 02:50:25,780 Thanks for all the work that you've been doing. 1620 02:50:25,780 --> 02:50:26,880 Thank you. Appreciate it. 1621 02:50:30,140 --> 02:50:35,020 Okay, at this time we are at item 12 future meetings events and citizen involvement opportunities. 1622 02:50:35,920 --> 02:50:41,520 You've heard me say it before, but the Western-Wake Farmers Market offers healthy and fresh food and goods from small and local businesses. 1623 02:50:42,500 --> 02:50:46,180 They're still operating under the winter hours from 9.30 a.m. to 12.00 every Saturday. 1624 02:50:47,220 --> 02:50:49,380 Lots of good events if you're 55 plus. 1625 02:50:49,580 --> 02:50:51,580 These visit the Morrisville Senior Center. 1626 02:50:51,800 --> 02:50:56,500 They would strive for a state luncheon this Friday, March 17 from 1 till 3 p.m. 1627 02:50:56,500 --> 02:51:00,500 visit old friends and makes a new one says you enjoy a delicious catered lunch of 1628 02:51:00,500 --> 02:51:04,560 traditional Irish foods. Don't forget to wear your favorite St. Patrick's Day accessory 1629 02:51:05,180 --> 02:51:10,860 and you'll have to pre-register for that one please. Residents are invited to recycle household 1630 02:51:10,860 --> 02:51:16,480 items at Green Day event on March 18th, which is the Saturday from 8 a.m. till noon at Church Street Park. 1631 02:51:16,780 --> 02:51:20,840 Drive through stations will be set up to accept items for recycling that cannot be placed in 1632 02:51:20,840 --> 02:51:25,740 residential rice cycling bins for safely disposing of hazardous items and for donating 1633 02:51:25,740 --> 02:51:27,980 needed items to community groups. 1634 02:51:28,200 --> 02:51:29,960 Stations will include textile recycling, 1635 02:51:30,320 --> 02:51:32,280 laptop donation, paper shredding, 1636 02:51:32,540 --> 02:51:36,280 medication take back, e-recycling batteries, and CFLs, 1637 02:51:36,360 --> 02:51:38,300 and a collection of fats, oils, and greases, 1638 02:51:38,580 --> 02:51:42,120 or fogs for more information, please visit our website. 1639 02:51:43,300 --> 02:51:44,440 Also, please see the date. 1640 02:51:45,060 --> 02:51:48,080 Join us on Saturday and March 18th from noon until 3 p.m. 1641 02:51:48,100 --> 02:51:50,520 at Cedarfore Community Center, as we celebrate holy. 1642 02:51:51,240 --> 02:51:53,460 The ancient Hindu festival, Marking the End of Winter, 1643 02:51:53,640 --> 02:51:55,000 and welcoming the spring season. 1644 02:51:55,000 --> 02:51:59,860 The festival is free and we'll feature dancing, holy powders, and food for purchase. 1645 02:52:00,440 --> 02:52:07,360 The town will provide holy powder to attendees to get the event started, but attendees are strongly encouraged to bring their own holy powder to keep the fun going. 1646 02:52:07,940 --> 02:52:13,700 Please note that this will be a dry, holy celebration, so participants are asked to leave their water toys at home. 1647 02:52:14,020 --> 02:52:21,100 Limited parking will be available at Cedar Fort Community Center, shuttle transportation will run two in from Iron Mountain and Church Street Park. 1648 02:52:21,100 --> 02:52:26,080 Town of Morrisville, once again, will celebrate N.C. Clean Water Education Partnership, 1649 02:52:26,260 --> 02:52:30,600 Co-App Regional Greek Week Program, or a lot about that from Tony Victor earlier. 1650 02:52:31,300 --> 02:52:35,660 It's from March 18th through the 25th with the fund informative activities to educate our community 1651 02:52:35,660 --> 02:52:40,700 about reducing stormwater pollution and the importance of keeping our waterways clear and clean. 1652 02:52:41,100 --> 02:52:45,560 The theme for 2023 is Water Connects Us, please check the website for more information. 1653 02:52:46,040 --> 02:52:48,480 The complete schedule of events as they are confirmed. 1654 02:52:48,480 --> 02:52:56,700 Just as a note, our town, our municipality is one of the ones with the most opportunities and most events in the region. 1655 02:52:57,380 --> 02:53:01,160 So it's really impressive to work that our stormwater staff has done to make that happen. 1656 02:53:01,980 --> 02:53:09,160 Save the date to join the town of Morrisville for our annual easter egg hunt on Thursday, April 6th at Morrisville Community Park, starting at 545. 1657 02:53:10,080 --> 02:53:14,100 And new this year, there's a piece in the park, scavenger hunt, will be offered. 1658 02:53:14,100 --> 02:53:19,460 find all the peeps hidden in the area and win a prize from the Parks Recreation and Cultural Resources Department. 1659 02:53:20,000 --> 02:53:25,300 Roosters Ice Cream, Truck will also be in attendance for you to purchase a sweet treat to help celebrate spring. 1660 02:53:25,900 --> 02:53:28,840 Please see our event page for more details as they become available. 1661 02:53:29,920 --> 02:53:33,000 We always have lots of other things going on on the calendar on lines. 1662 02:53:33,100 --> 02:53:38,440 So please check us out there and our social media is pretty robust as well. 1663 02:53:38,440 --> 02:53:41,900 at this time we're going to have council comments. I'd like to recognize council member 1664 02:53:41,900 --> 02:53:44,060 Rabadi. I'll buy council member Fender please. 1665 02:53:44,580 --> 02:53:46,340 No comments, Mayor. Thank you. 1666 02:53:46,520 --> 02:53:48,340 Council member Fender, I'll buy council member Rao. 1667 02:53:48,780 --> 02:53:49,960 I don't have any comments. 1668 02:53:50,540 --> 02:53:52,400 Okay, council member Rao, I'll buy Mayor Patent Johnson. 1669 02:53:53,060 --> 02:53:54,020 I just got a few comments. 1670 02:53:54,620 --> 02:53:57,380 First of all, I want to wish everyone a happy women's history month again in Holy. 1671 02:53:58,580 --> 02:54:01,100 A quick thing, I want to bring out your council. 1672 02:54:01,880 --> 02:54:05,400 There's been recently, I've been getting more complaints about spending a most 1673 02:54:05,400 --> 02:54:11,000 for Carpenter Road, and I know we've been tracking our legislative agenda, but there 1674 02:54:11,000 --> 02:54:18,180 is a bill on the floor that passed the House, called HP388, it's going to add Durham to 1675 02:54:18,180 --> 02:54:22,980 have on speed cameras for school zones, and it's going to allow other local governments to add 1676 02:54:22,980 --> 02:54:23,720 on to that. 1677 02:54:24,120 --> 02:54:28,560 So that's something I would ask our least part of when it's staff to explore, possibly, 1678 02:54:29,000 --> 02:54:33,300 I'm not sure where they stand on it, but I think it's a great way to address through automation 1679 02:54:34,020 --> 02:54:38,000 speeding, giving staffing left. There's something for us to think about as we deliberate 1680 02:54:38,000 --> 02:54:45,360 on the budget. Secondly, I've got, there's a small business town hall on hosting with 1681 02:54:45,360 --> 02:54:50,800 Alan Thomas, the director of SPA congressman Ross Fouche and Secretary of State 1682 02:54:50,800 --> 02:54:55,740 Lane Marshall, the event is sold out, but you can get it on Zoom. I'm going to be posting 1683 02:54:55,740 --> 02:54:59,820 that. It's going to be a great opportunity to talk about access to capital. 1684 02:55:00,000 --> 02:55:08,520 If you're a minor audience business, if you're a veteran business, if you're a small business, if you're listening, we'd love to have you join our line, which we'll join the wait list. 1685 02:55:09,020 --> 02:55:18,000 But I think Secretary Reaver, the Secretary North County technology for accepting our invitation to attend the Swan City Advisory Committee meeting on the 23rd. 1686 02:55:19,100 --> 02:55:21,840 And I want to thank the Morrisville Chamber for a great event. 1687 02:55:21,920 --> 02:55:26,900 The final thing is I'm wearing my wet tech metal, which I got, that there wouldn't be a tech event. 1688 02:55:26,900 --> 02:55:29,900 And I just thought it was a good idea that the mayor was there. 1689 02:55:30,660 --> 02:55:35,020 The theme of what you're trying to work in a way that can really be big about points that we are. 1690 02:55:35,300 --> 02:55:37,780 You can do all this great stuff with a way that for those schools. 1691 02:55:38,700 --> 02:55:44,560 And the kinds of opportunities, the community colleges getting, for those that just can't go to the conventional education plan. 1692 02:55:45,260 --> 02:55:50,900 So, I think, and congratulate Scott Roth, President Rawls, and Foundation for a great event. 1693 02:55:51,860 --> 02:55:52,500 Well, like that. 1694 02:55:53,320 --> 02:55:55,620 Mayor Patem Johnson, followed by Council Member Garamlet, please. 1695 02:55:55,620 --> 02:56:02,560 So, I just have one comment. I just want to kind of recognize honor. We lost a long time 1696 02:56:02,560 --> 02:56:09,760 resident last Friday, Peggy Louder passed away. And this morning at Good Hope Baptist Church. 1697 02:56:10,720 --> 02:56:16,700 And she and her husband Grover were married for 67 years. And shortly after they got married, 1698 02:56:17,520 --> 02:56:25,240 they moved into, they built the house on Davis Drive. And though many of us probably, many of you 1699 02:56:25,240 --> 02:56:34,400 never met Peggy or Grover, I had the pleasure knowing Peggy well. She has that, they have the house on 1700 02:56:34,400 --> 02:56:41,280 Davis Drive right next to CVS where she decorates for every holiday. So, like a lot of people around 1701 02:56:41,280 --> 02:56:52,100 here probably never met Peggy, but we're influenced by her, we're really, so her work and she made 1702 02:56:52,100 --> 02:56:58,880 a lot of people really happy, so I just wanted to acknowledge that, like I said, she passed away 1703 02:56:58,880 --> 02:57:07,820 last Friday and, you know, I was on council when the looters came and asked us to subdivide 1704 02:57:07,820 --> 02:57:18,600 that property so they could sell the corner for the CVS. They're a whole goal was to be able 1705 02:57:18,600 --> 02:57:25,720 to live their lives in that house and selling that corner or help them financially in 1706 02:57:25,720 --> 02:57:25,920 the state. 1707 02:57:26,600 --> 02:57:32,540 And that really makes me happy today when I think about Peggy and of course Grover is still 1708 02:57:32,540 --> 02:57:40,880 in the house today, so just my thoughts and prayers to the leader family and I wish them peace 1709 02:57:40,880 --> 02:57:43,420 and comfort in the days of it. 1710 02:57:44,060 --> 02:57:45,040 Thank you. 1711 02:57:45,040 --> 02:57:47,860 Council Member Garamelo of Council Member Schrodinger, Johnson? 1712 02:57:52,120 --> 02:57:57,400 That has, like from last 22 years, horses to, yeah. 1713 02:57:58,420 --> 02:58:06,860 So, I actually really like and the way they decorated, you know, during Christmas time, I don't think, like I was thinking, who has so much energy to do all that, you know? 1714 02:58:12,280 --> 02:58:14,570 No comments and just wanted to. 1715 02:58:17,750 --> 02:58:19,290 We women's day we had it. 1716 02:58:32,050 --> 02:58:34,870 I don't have any comments tonight, Mayor. 1717 02:58:35,090 --> 02:58:36,470 Thank you. 1718 02:58:36,710 --> 02:58:39,390 I just want to say Happy Holy and Happy Pied Day. 1719 02:58:39,530 --> 02:58:42,890 You can see up in the bottom left corner on our screen. 1720 02:58:43,630 --> 02:58:44,530 That's kind of good fun. 1721 02:58:44,910 --> 02:58:47,190 So thank you to staff for doing that. 1722 02:58:47,310 --> 02:58:51,110 At this time, I'd like to recognize, tell me in your page for any comments. 1723 02:58:51,810 --> 02:58:52,190 Thank you, Mayor. 1724 02:58:52,290 --> 02:58:58,130 I'm going to ask Erin Hudson to come up and give a quick update on a guest at Holy. 1725 02:59:05,810 --> 02:59:12,870 members of the Council. As you all know, in our continued efforts to help you maintain and build 1726 02:59:12,870 --> 02:59:20,650 and facilitate relationships with our local and federal delegates, we do have a confirmation 1727 02:59:20,650 --> 02:59:27,630 that Congresswoman Ross will be at Holy on Saturday from 12 to 1. We don't have full details 1728 02:59:27,630 --> 02:59:31,250 at this time where we're still working those out. We wanted to let you know that she will be there. 1729 02:59:31,250 --> 02:59:36,950 will be in attendance along with one member of her staff so really please that she's going to be able 1730 02:59:36,950 --> 02:59:43,010 to join us and as soon as we get some additional details finalized we'll be sure to share those with you all. 1731 02:59:43,330 --> 02:59:44,570 She came last year too. 1732 02:59:48,150 --> 02:59:50,430 Anything else tell me in the pitch? Okay. 1733 02:59:51,370 --> 02:59:55,430 We have two closed sessions this evening to discuss a personal matter and the acquisition of real 1734 02:59:55,430 --> 02:59:59,970 property. We do not plan to conduct any further public business after our close 1735 03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:09,240 So, at this time, we'd like to thank you for watching this meeting of the Morrisville Town Council. We hope you plan to join us again. Please feel free to email your town council members at TownCouncil. 1736 03:00:09,880 --> 03:00:17,580 Townof Morrisville.org or visit www.townof Morrisville.org for additional contact information. 1737 03:00:18,240 --> 03:00:20,980 At this time, I would ask for a motion to enter into closed session. 1738 03:00:20,980 --> 03:00:25,500 Mayor and Council, I'll move to send a close session, pursuant to North Carolina statute, 1739 03:00:26,560 --> 03:00:33,800 143.3118.118.6 and a five-room that we go into close session for the pressing personnel 1740 03:00:33,800 --> 03:00:36,520 matter and a real property acquisition. 1741 03:00:38,520 --> 03:00:40,400 Second, all those of favorite, please say aye. 1742 03:00:41,040 --> 03:00:41,100 Aye. 1743 03:00:41,480 --> 03:00:41,940 Opposed? 1744 03:00:42,440 --> 03:00:43,980 Is there none that carries unanimously? 1745 03:00:44,480 --> 03:00:46,280 It's a 50-minute close session. 1746 03:00:46,340 --> 03:00:47,100 Thank you very much.