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Staff, are we ready to proceed? Thank you. It appears

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call the roll. Committee member Costanzo. Present.

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Committee member Donnelly. Committee member Hanson. Here. Committee member Tognazini.

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Committee member Wachowski. Here, chairperson Peck. Yes. We are all

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here and have a quorum. Thank you. First item of

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business is committee announcements. Are there any announcements from the

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committee. Seeing none. I just want to give our thanks

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to Gene and Melody for their service. Always good to

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have people with that perspective and history to sort of

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guide the process and wish them certain luck. Next order

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business, our director announcements, Director Singwald. Are there any announcements

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or presentations under your agenda item. Thank committee members. I'm

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Errolment Director. And this is going to yield my director

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announcements to our city attorney, Brian Stock, excuse me, to

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speak to conflict of interest guidelines. Good afternoon. My name,

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Brian Stack, city attorney. I was asked by the director

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of the Community Development Department to provide a little overview

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of conflict of interest rules and provide maybe a little

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insight or guidance on how to potentially handle them as

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you encounter it was during your review. I guess as

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a housekeeping note, I'm here at wearing my city attorney

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hat. So I represent the interests of the city. I

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am not providing any individual legal advice to individual members

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of this committee, but merely providing guidance from the city's

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perspective to try and protect the integrity of this process.

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So to the extent that you have any individual concerns,

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I'm happy to talk with you. But if there's any

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significant level of concern, you would need to seek your

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own legal advice. Stepping back, broadly speaking, you know, conflict

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of interest rules apply if you are a public official.

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you have a disqualifying financial interest. So the couple of

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elements that need to be unpacked. And I won't unpack

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all of them north. Do I think I could do

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that in a short way that's understandable? But let's assume

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your public officials, you are on a committee that's going

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to prepare recommendations to the city council regarding a legislative

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update. Or what I would consider a legislative update policy

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document. So we'll assume that you fall under as a

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public official. You know, there may be some gray area

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there. And so that's why most of my guidance will

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be air on the side of caution. So on this

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instance, let's err on the side of caution assume that

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our public officials bound by the conflict of interest rules.

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So now it goes to disqualifying financial interests. And there's

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two main categories I can think of regarding this planning

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area. One would be a business, a financial interest in

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a business that operates in the plan area and having

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a property intra in the plan area. I think to

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a large extent, there may be a lot of overlap

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because a lot of businesses in this area either lease

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or own the property, you know, from which they are

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operating a business out. And in preparing for today, and

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try and get to the heart of matter, the business

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interests and how you get disqualified are the threshold standards.

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So if it's more, if your business interests might be

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affected by more than a million dollars, that's disqualifying financial

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interest. Or if there's going to be a, I believe

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it's five percent change in gross revenues.

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But it has to be at least 10, 000 dollars

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also always kind of a subjective question of like, what's

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the likely business impact? Uh, so I think it's easier

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to follow the property interest rules, distance from the, from

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your interest to what you're being asked to weigh in

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on. And the regulations by the FPPC fair political practices

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commission, uh, they, they do them kind of in 500

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tranches within 500 feet, it's presumed to be a disqualifying

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interest, uh, unless that there won't be, uh, on, on

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that real property invest. In between 500 and a thousand

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feet, it would be a disqualifying interest. I think boiling

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it down as if it will likely stanchly alter of

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that immediate substantially altering traffic levels, use, parking, views, privacy

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noise, uh, things of that nature. Anything beyond a thousand

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clear enhancing evidence that there would be an impact. So,

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not to weigh in on a product feature that is

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within 500 feet real property interest. Anything in between 500

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change, uh, that is relatively isolated to that area in

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traffic, adding more lanes, significantly removing or adding parking, changing

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circulation, I would recommend to not weigh in on that

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specific chature. And there, if you're, if you're, if you

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feel, have a potential disqualifying interest, the recommendation would be

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to not vote on that specific component. And instead, uh,

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step down from, um, IS. And you can speak as

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we'd ask that you'd leave the room. Have that voter.

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continue to weigh in and vote on, you know, other

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items before you. Another overarchy umbrella is, and why a

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lot of you are here is because you either have

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some say business interest or specialized knowledge or experience with

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this area. So it's, there's kind of this like catch

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22, it feels like, right? Like we're asked you to

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be here, but then also if you have an interest,

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you have to be careful. And so there is this

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public general exception. So if there's not going to be

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unique impacts to your interest, you have the ability to

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still weigh in on that. Um, what we're really focused

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on or features that would cause unique impacts to your

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interest. And in those situations, we would ask or recommend,

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uh, that you recruse yourself. You can speak to it

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as a member of the public. Uh, and then, you

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know, come back into the room once that matter has

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been decided. And there is, and again, another wrinkle is

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leases are generally treated differently than having like a fee

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interest in the property. But like business interests, there's a

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subjective nature to it. And with leases, it says, you

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know, there would be a disqualifying interest if it may

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increase or decrease the potential rental value of the property,

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or it may impact your use and enjoyment of the

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property. I don't find that very helpful. And so I

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tend to go back to, okay, let's follow as if

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you own the property foot, use those metrics. Cause I

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think they're more helpful and easier to follow. Um, and,

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um, that's kind of my short summary, uh, off the

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cus or any further follow up, I think to provide

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context for when this be implicated. I understand there's planning

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topic area - wide. I don't think this conflict of

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interest advice is implicated during those discussions. But you may

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have cite - specific discussions about, say, should we alter

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circulation here? Should we remove parking here? Should we add

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parking here? I think those are the site - specific

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features where the conflict of interest related may come up.

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those would come into play. So to start off the

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discussion, I know there are some members on the committee

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who do have business interests and probably property interest. Could

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you tell us a little bit more about substantially if

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the action is taking two parking spaces here and putting

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them over here in about the same area? Is that

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a substantial change? Or there's no net increase or decrease.

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So if it's a zero sum, is that a conflict?

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And I guess I just want to get that out.

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Also, the committee is not concerned with. Zonings or rezonings.

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We're not determining that. In some cases, we may say

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within this part will be parking. This part will be

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a building. Don't know if we're going to get that

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granular. But, um. We're sort of putting together the pieces

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of the puzzle after the city is already determined with

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the land uses are going to be. So could you

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speak to that a little bit? So we're clear. Yeah,

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I'll take the first one. And what qualifies as a

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substantial change or substantially altering is, I think normally guided

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by, use your best judgment. I think there's certainly taking

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into account the percentage change is a good way often

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to look at it. If you're removing two or you're

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changing two out of 100 parking spot, I think the

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chances that, uh, regulator would find financial is low. If

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you're changing two out of four spots, that's 50 percent,

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you know, that could be more substantial if that is

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a substantial feature of that area, right? If force parking

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spot, um, I can, I can give some examples of

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where, you know, the FPPC advice letters, which are kind

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of a safe harbor provision. So if you do have

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any specific concerns, you can always seek advice from the

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FPPC and they can issue an opinion letter. And if

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it gives you safe harbor from future enforcement action, should

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their opinion be, you don't have a disqualifying interest. And

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then the later determination that there was, in fact. Uh,

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disqualifying interests. So they, they issue letters. And those can

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be helpful to provide helpful examples. The recent letters, a

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lot of the facts are regarding rezoning or allowing greater

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density for new large housing projects. So going from sites

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that are 20 units in acre to like 60 over

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four or five, 10 acre site. And those properties have

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been fit between 500 and a thousand foot from the

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public officials residents or business. And the FPPC is generally

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said, yeah, we think that's a substantial change because you're

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adding a lot more people likely impacts on traffic and

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parking. So, uh, I think, um, again, I tend to

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come from it from a percentage standpoint. And using your

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best judgment on whether this, whether you feel this is

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a substantial change or not. I'll open up for the

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committee comments and questions. Again, we're not concerned with rezoning.

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The property has been zoned. We're not tasked with rezoning.

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The densities won't change. There may be some design requirements

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that may change because that's part of our task. But

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just want to sort of get clear, because I imagine

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that the workaround on this is eventually going to be

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that I'm conflicted on this issue related to this property.

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And we need to create a straw vote around that.

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So that anybody who's conflicted on it, uh, won't vote

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on it. They can comment on it, but they won't

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be able to vote. And then we take another straw

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vote on something that we're another member might be conflicted.

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And then we sort of put it all together and

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move that on. Is that the normal course of action

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where we have sort of a Swiss cheese of potential

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conflicts? Yes. Uh, sorry. I forgot to mention that concept.

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FPPC calls it segmenting. It's definitely an appropriate way to

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handle and it would be through the straw vote process.

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So you can break down discrete issues. I straw votes.

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Do you recuse yourself if you think you have a

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conflict from that specific straw vote? And at the end

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of all this, you can still vote on the overall

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plan, including all the straw votes. Um, so that is

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an appropriate way to handle that. As far as I

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forgot to answer your second part of the question about

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zoning, yeah, I'll defer to the department obviously on the

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nature of the scope of this. But it's not, uh,

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you know, it's not just land use zoning regulations that

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can trigger conflict of interest rules. It can be park

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improvements, uh, circulation changes. Any action that the city may

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take pursuant to this plan, that can be, that would

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be an official decision that could get triggered or would

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trigger conflict of interest rule. So it's not just zoning.

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It's, it's if we add this beautiful park right here,

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that's a site specific feature. Is there a likely impact

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to your interest that's between 500 and 1, 000 feet.

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As an example. Questions from the committee. Before I accepted,

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uh, spot on this committee, I talked to Rob Schultz.

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I'm concerned that you're not going to protect us, that

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you're here to protect the city, but you're not protecting

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people on the committee. It makes you almost not want

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to vote on anything, to be honest with you. If

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I may respond, it's by protecting the city, the intent

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would it also hopefully protect the committee members, uh, it's

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just, I can't give legal binding advice to individual committee

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members. Sorry if that was misunderstood. So as far as

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I know tonight, we don't have anything on the agenda

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that's requires a vote. But we do have things that

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require comments and input from stakeholders. So knowing that is

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there a point, because we're talking about, um, and CAP

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streets and parking, pretty much your example, um, would you

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suggest that either of us, any of us that are

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up here that have, um, benefits if we get one

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more parking space that we should absolutely do public comment

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this evening instead of speak when we're supposed to. So

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if I may, I think that's actually a good example

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where the discussion at this meeting is more high level,

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uh, as far as the approach to that specific issue

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in general plan policy regarding replacing the parking spaces with

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pedestrian connections. I think all the WAMPAC members can certainly

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provide comments on that. As far as when this could

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become a concern, I actually have one of the slides

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in my presentation that lists out the planned agenda items

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for future WAMPAC meetings. And June 4th is the WAMPAC

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meeting where we plan to present our, um, the preferred

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concept plans that we get based on public input from

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the workshop number three. And that's when we'll start to

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see actual lines on a map showing parking spaces removed

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or added or park improvements. The very specific tangible proposals,

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um, the chair would most likely want to take a

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straw pole and have people who are conflicted out recuse

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themselves. And to build on that to the extent that

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there's additional time. The city attorney is an official that

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can submit a request for an opinion letter from the

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FPPC. So I'd be happy to do that. Um, to

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provide, you know, they always couch their opinions on, based

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on these facts, you know. So the limit on how

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much information you can provide them or a different hypotheticals,

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but if there's any general overarching questions that you'd like

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some opinion on, I'd be happy to do that. Again,

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provide some more shirts to the committee members. Um, I,

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I would appreciate that any of these future meetings that

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you think that there is an obvious conflict of interest,

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um, that you give us a heads up, um, specifically.

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So we can have the time to write something for

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correspondence or have something prepared for public comment to get

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it in in three minutes. Thank you.

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Thank you, Mr. Stack. There's an item on the gender

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of public comment. I will say that tonight, because we're

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dealing with multiple action items under when agenda items, we're

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going to be expanding that public comment period of five

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minutes. So don't feel the need to run out the

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clock. If you don't need to, but, uh, want to

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make sure everybody has some time to get that, uh,

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information in. First action item is the waterfront master plan

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advisory committee minutes from January 8. Are there comments or

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questions on the minutes as presented. Seeing none is our

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motion to approve. I move, we approve second. Sorry. All

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those in favor. Aye. Thank you. Any opposed. Thank you.

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Item 5b is the background report community workshop number two

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and the street and pedestrian connections issue focus. Uh, these

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are our main items of business tonight under one agenda

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item. And they include the review and comment on the

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news sections of the background report. Review and comment on

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workshop number two and initial conversations and discussion of implementation

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of general plan policy on the treatment of street ends.

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We'll start with a presentation on these items of staff

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pausing. For committee comments on the presentation material after each

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item. Then proceed to public comment on the three items.

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And then bring it back to the committee for comments.

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Also note in the staff report that requests is to

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focus on new material presented. Uh, staff has presented the

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material. It's quite voluminous. If you have written comments that

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you'd like to submit, that you're not able to get

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into night, please do so. Um, those comments will be

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reviewed in appropriate modifications rolled into the final background report.

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So I want to also note that the appropriate time

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for comment on the items is after completion of the

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entire staff presentation and public comment. And we'll take each

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item, each action item separately. So let's start with presentation.

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Director Singwald. Thank you Mr. Chair. So I'm going to

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present the first couple of slides. Them in turn number

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two are consultant Amy Sinsheimer who's joining us via Zoom

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this afternoon. And I'll slide as she presents. So the

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agenda as the chair mentioned, first I'm going to start

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by about what the goals are for this meeting that

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I have a timeline for the next four months of

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our waterfront planning journey. And then, uh, Amy is going

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to present the background report and workshop number two items

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on the agenda. Then I'll wrap it up with the,

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uh, issue focused on the three M pedestrian connections to

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get that conversation started. So as the chair mentioned, this

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is a voluminous agenda packet to help the, uh, committee

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get through this, um, meeting as efficiently as possible. I

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wanted to start off with outlining the goals for what

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will a successful meeting look like at 5 p. m.

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when we're likely to wrap up. So first again, as

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chairpek mentioned, we'll receive input from one pack members and

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the public on sections of a draft background report that

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the WOMPAC has not already seen and commented on. And

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just as a reminder, the WAMPAC has already commented on

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the market study, the transportation background report, the waterfront history

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statement and the status of the proposals for the 1996

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waterfront master plan. Now, I know you may have comments

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that you want to make on some of those other

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topics that we've discussed in the past such as the

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market study. You're welcome to make those comments. But remember,

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we have a limited time in our goals really to

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look at the other sections of the background report that

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we haven't had a chance to discuss yet. Next, um,

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successful meeting will look like the WAMPAC will know what

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to expect at the upcoming workshop. Well, we'll know what

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to expect for our February 25th community workshop held in

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this room at 6 p. m. Amy's going to present

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on that. And then we're also going to get into

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that topic of the street end pedestrian connections. And what

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we hope to get some initial, um, direction and thoughts

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from Wampak members and the public on that topic. And

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then finally, I wanted to just remind the committee in

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public of a message that I made when I first

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won pack meeting that we really are one team. I

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mean, staff, the consultant, the WAMPAC, the public. Our decision

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makers. And I'm certain that we have a shared goal

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to get the best possible water for master plan that

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really likes the values of the community and honors what

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a special place more obey is. And just kind of

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keep you there successful and productive medium. And I alluded

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to a few minutes ago. What I really want to

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convey, I want to convey things from, from this slide.

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First, you can see how many columns of public input

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we have over the next four months. I've mentioned before

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that when we scope this out request for proposals, we

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very intentionally made public comment, a critical component of the

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scope and maximize public participation. We see that in Mont

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Blanca meetings, be that in having five, five workshops planned,

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um, our goal is to vet material with the WAMPAC

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and the public, of course, who joins the WAMPAC meetings

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or watches them, um, before that information is presented at

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a workshop. So it's a very, um, involved public process.

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So as far as the specifics of this work plan

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for the next four months, I call it destination concept

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plans. At the first workshop, I use this analogy of,

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we're going on a journey together. And for this segment

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of the journey, the main focus is concept plans. We

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want to develop. The concept plants. So, um, where we

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are currently is the February 5th, Juan Pack meeting reviewing

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that draft background report, the input that we get from

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the WAMPAC today. We are going to use to update

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the background report and put together a final background report.

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That's the next column over the deliverable. That final background

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report will be one of the main items we present

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at the February 25th workshop. However, also at the workshop,

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we're going to get input from the community on a

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draft division statement. And ideas and proposals for the character

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areas. Now with the first workshop community members shared a

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pretty long list of their ideas and proposals for the

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six different character areas, we're going to present those ideas

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that we already heard from the community at the first

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workshop. And we're also going to, so we're going to

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get input from other community members on those ideas and

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proposals that we heard previously and we're also taking additional

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ideas for, um, the different character areas. And we'll get

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input on a draft vision statement. Then we'll present that

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information to the WAMPAC on March 5th, the WAMPAC will

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help us finalize the vision statement. The vision statement is

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really important because it sets the direction for the alternative

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concept plans that we develop for each of the sixth

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character areas. And once you have the final vision statement,

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then the next item is we'll use that to develop

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what I'm calling a framework for alternatives. And this is

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a way we can get some initial WAMPAC input on

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the alternatives that we create before we present those at

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a workshop. This will present this framework, which will be

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more of a written description of what the alternatives will

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include. We'll present that to WAMPAC in April. Once we

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maybe make some edits based on WAMPAC, uh, input, we

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will finalize placeworks will go and develop those different concept

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plans. And we will, uh, unveil those at the public

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workshop at number three. And we'll get the public's reaction

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and comments on those various alternatives. And we'll then present

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the concepts to the WAMPAC along with what we heard

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from the public and ask the WAMPAC at the June

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4th meeting to begin to decide on the preferred concept

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plans for each of the six character areas. I know

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that's a lot of information. It's a very involved process.

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It is going to be a lot of work over

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the next four months. I think that the level of

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volume of this agenda packet is pretty much representative of

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what you can expect to see the next four months.

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So thank you so much for your volunteering. So much

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of your time and expertise to this work effort. It

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really is. It's a lot. And with that, I will

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turn it over to Ms. Sinsheim or a placeworks to

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give a presentation on the background report. Good afternoon. Can

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you guys hear me all right. Yes. We hear you,

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Amy. Excellent. Sorry. I couldn't be there in person today.

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Um, as chair PEC said, we'll start with an overview

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of, uh, the parts of the background report that haven't

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been presented yet. And then pause for the committee before

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we go into the next item. So, um, before we

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dive into the new sections, though, I actually, would you

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advance to the table of content slide. Eryn. Or whoever's

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running. Okay. Thank you. So before diving into the more

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details, I just want to make sure everyone has a

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kind of the concept of how the document is put

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together. So you've seen the market scan and the transportation

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report. Those are appendices to the main background report. So

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you see those there at the end. That's the full

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reports for both of those. And then we do have

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summaries of both of those within the main report as

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well. So, um. Just to touch on where things are

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at with the pieces that you've seen already, um, you've

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weighed in on the two appendices like Ireland said. And

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we have reviewed all the comments on both of those

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and made some updates, um, and some examples are there

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are some places where the data needed updating or expanding

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on one example is in the previous version, the commercial

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fishing baseline year was 2014. And we got some good

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feedback that that was a year that was had pretty

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high catch numbers and didn't really represent a lot of

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the surrounding years in terms of the trends. So we

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were able to revise that to start in 2012 and

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that adjusted the trends, hopefully to be more realistic. Another

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example is the rental data, um, along the waterfront. The

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initial report did have, um, information from the co -

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star data source. And that was all retail properties, not

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just the leases along the waterfront. And that's been revised

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based on some assistance we got from the harbor department

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and data that they have to include the average annual

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rents for the lease properties. And so that's now been

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included as a call out box on the retail rents

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page of the market scan. Um, other edits to both

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the market scan and the transportation report or more for

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adding context to what's in there. Um, for the market

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scan, there was a page that includes information about different

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regions outside of the central coast where potential visitors could

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be, uh, gained from. And we wanted to make sure

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that we clarified that the Fresno, um, metropolitan statistic area.

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Actually just included the Fresno area, not the whole central

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valley. So there's been some language added to clarify that.

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Uh, for the transportation report. There have been some updates

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to, um, information about traffic counts and the conclusions related

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to the plan mortgate EIR. And also some updates related

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to parking and collision discussions, uh, these are just a

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few examples. There are things that were commented on that

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have not been addressed yet in the edits and they

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will be addressed in later parts of the process. For

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example, future demand and total square footage for retail and

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hospitality uses. That really needs to be tied to the

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concepts that Eryn was just mentioning. So the concepts for

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the different character areas. Um, in addition, we had some

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input about making sure we're looking at the regional salon

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of subisco county, um, demand and context. And that will

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also be part of that demand analysis. Um, also as

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part of the visioning process as we move forward with

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that, we'll be looking on looking at local resident preferector.

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00:34:23,634 --> 00:34:27,074
So as Ireland mentioned, you have also weighed in and

477
00:34:27,074 --> 00:34:31,554
the public has weighed in on the 1996 WMP proposals

478
00:34:31,954 --> 00:34:36,506
as well as the, um, draft history statement. And those

479
00:34:36,586 --> 00:34:39,386
edits have not been made yet, but those will be,

480
00:34:39,386 --> 00:34:43,466
we've noted the feedback and the edits that have been

481
00:34:43,466 --> 00:34:45,706
agreed to and those will be part of the final

482
00:34:46,346 --> 00:34:52,212
background in court. So we can move on to the

483
00:34:52,292 --> 00:35:02,126
next slide. So now we just, uh. Let's see. This

484
00:35:02,126 --> 00:35:03,246
might be a little out of order from what I

485
00:35:03,246 --> 00:35:06,456
have, but that's fine. Uh, we want to. Give a

486
00:35:06,376 --> 00:35:10,136
little more information about the sections that are new that

487
00:35:10,136 --> 00:35:12,536
are in the main part of the background report. So

488
00:35:12,776 --> 00:35:15,416
a lot of this is really, you know, setting the

489
00:35:15,496 --> 00:35:17,976
stage for what are the regulations that are already in

490
00:35:17,976 --> 00:35:22,376
place either at the local level or state regulations.

491
00:35:28,009 --> 00:35:30,729
And the guide, the waterfront, so the existing uses in

492
00:35:31,209 --> 00:35:36,249
range, um, things land use designations and policies as well

493
00:35:36,409 --> 00:35:40,415
as your zoning that's in place. My next slide, please.

494
00:35:48,590 --> 00:35:52,510
And for the California Coastal Act and your local coastal

495
00:35:53,150 --> 00:35:58,110
plan and program apply in this area, uh, the sea

496
00:35:58,190 --> 00:36:03,150
levelized guidance from the coastal commission is being, is reflected

497
00:36:03,150 --> 00:36:05,550
in this report and is what we're using to work

498
00:36:05,630 --> 00:36:08,030
on the C - level rise analysis as part of

499
00:36:08,350 --> 00:36:13,475
the project. There are also regulations related to the tide

500
00:36:13,555 --> 00:36:18,595
lens trust area and the leases. It's included here. The

501
00:36:18,595 --> 00:36:23,875
next slide has the two ordinances, measured D and measure

502
00:36:24,035 --> 00:36:28,675
A24, actually the voter initiatives that are in place in

503
00:36:28,755 --> 00:36:33,257
certain parts of the waterfront. To God in those areas.

504
00:36:34,816 --> 00:36:39,222
Slide, please. We also have details on the landownership mix.

505
00:36:51,424 --> 00:36:54,704
A long waterfront. We have information that you have already

506
00:36:55,024 --> 00:36:59,664
reviewed on the 1996. We have information about other plans.

507
00:36:59,584 --> 00:37:01,904
Good plan, there's our plan that was prepared for the

508
00:37:02,224 --> 00:37:05,424
proposed project at the power plant a few years ago.

509
00:37:05,344 --> 00:37:07,424
And the city's clean from the work we're doing now.

510
00:37:19,410 --> 00:37:23,010
Um, this is the list that has been updated every

511
00:37:23,170 --> 00:37:27,970
meeting since any of the project background report of projects

512
00:37:29,250 --> 00:37:37,697
and efforts that are underway. And then finally, there are

513
00:37:37,777 --> 00:37:41,857
a couple of sections summarizing other efforts and plans, um,

514
00:37:42,417 --> 00:37:45,777
not initiated by initiated by there was a Cali Holly

515
00:37:45,777 --> 00:37:48,257
student project that looked at areas of the waterfront last

516
00:37:48,417 --> 00:37:52,577
year. Uh, the city has the information about and has

517
00:37:52,657 --> 00:37:57,118
been shared. It has some ideas for this plan and

518
00:37:57,118 --> 00:38:03,213
also the 2022 offshore wind study that reached conducted. Is

519
00:38:03,213 --> 00:38:08,646
something that some of the waterfront master plan area. Next

520
00:38:08,646 --> 00:38:14,419
slide, please. So the background report also summer of the

521
00:38:14,419 --> 00:38:19,258
public engagement that occurred earlier last year. Um, as part

522
00:38:19,178 --> 00:38:22,618
of kind of the initial data gathering, uh, and input

523
00:38:22,778 --> 00:38:26,858
on the project. And that included the stakeholder focus groups,

524
00:38:26,778 --> 00:38:32,423
stakeholder interviews. And we've, uh, reported on this previous to

525
00:38:32,423 --> 00:38:35,303
the background report, but now it's, um, memorialized in there.

526
00:38:37,016 --> 00:38:41,061
Next slide, please. And then just a reminder, these are

527
00:38:41,221 --> 00:38:46,101
the sections that have already been looked at by the

528
00:38:46,421 --> 00:38:54,270
WAMPAC. So just to conclude before we pause for your

529
00:38:54,430 --> 00:38:58,510
input and questions, um, so the background report really is

530
00:38:58,910 --> 00:39:03,150
this overview of existing conditions, policies, regulations.

531
00:39:09,155 --> 00:39:12,515
Uh, that will inform the process moving forward in the

532
00:39:12,595 --> 00:39:17,395
actual planning and decisions about what should happen moving forward

533
00:39:17,715 --> 00:39:20,515
in this plan and then in this area. So it

534
00:39:20,755 --> 00:39:27,075
doesn't explicitly limit what the future actions will be. WMP

535
00:39:28,355 --> 00:39:31,395
or state what needs to happen. It's really a technical

536
00:39:32,275 --> 00:39:35,475
study that should support the planning effort. And it doesn't

537
00:39:35,715 --> 00:39:41,555
put any guardrails on what the recommendations should be. So

538
00:39:41,875 --> 00:39:44,195
I just wanted to show that this is, you know,

539
00:39:44,515 --> 00:39:45,795
we're kind of coming to the end of the process

540
00:39:46,035 --> 00:39:49,155
of the data gathering and so that we can move

541
00:39:49,315 --> 00:39:52,733
into the land itself. Next, please.

542
00:40:00,025 --> 00:40:04,025
Asking you to receive this information, let us know if

543
00:40:04,105 --> 00:40:07,065
you have questions or comment, we'll address that in the

544
00:40:07,145 --> 00:40:10,499
final background report. But we're also really looking for, you

545
00:40:10,419 --> 00:40:12,579
know, what do you see as the key takeaways and

546
00:40:12,579 --> 00:40:17,139
implications for where change is more likely to occur in

547
00:40:17,139 --> 00:40:21,299
the planning area and what kind of change that is

548
00:40:21,379 --> 00:40:25,689
needed. And we have some examples here for your consideration.

549
00:40:27,254 --> 00:40:30,294
So we'll stop the, why don't we take a break

550
00:40:30,374 --> 00:40:33,494
there for, uh, committee questions. And again, reminding the committee

551
00:40:33,654 --> 00:40:36,614
that this is your opportunity to ask questions on the

552
00:40:36,774 --> 00:40:40,794
presentation. We'll have a point after public comment. We'll, we

553
00:40:40,794 --> 00:40:45,114
can opine on our issues or opportunities with the background.

554
00:40:46,943 --> 00:40:50,463
Material itself as well as the other pieces. So do

555
00:40:50,463 --> 00:40:55,798
you communs have any questions on the presentation. Great. Thank

556
00:40:55,798 --> 00:40:59,158
you. I just had one question when it goes back

557
00:40:59,318 --> 00:41:05,318
to the existing land uses. You have a map. And

558
00:41:05,318 --> 00:41:08,758
the only six spots, but on number three, the market

559
00:41:09,078 --> 00:41:13,575
street. Are we, doesn't say anything about that. Is that

560
00:41:13,655 --> 00:41:16,215
included in this? Looks like it's marked on the map,

561
00:41:16,135 --> 00:41:19,735
but it doesn't, uh, we're just focusing on the five

562
00:41:19,815 --> 00:41:23,755
and six area. Where the power plant, the old wastewater

563
00:41:23,755 --> 00:41:26,235
plant. Does that make sense? So are we including that

564
00:41:26,475 --> 00:41:29,035
market? Are we deciding on that market street? Is that

565
00:41:29,035 --> 00:41:33,169
part of this. If I may respond, so we had

566
00:41:33,649 --> 00:41:36,369
an item a while back where we asked Wompack to

567
00:41:36,369 --> 00:41:39,489
review the planning area, uh, boundaries. And that does include

568
00:41:39,889 --> 00:41:43,649
inclusion of seven, eight, one market and the surrounding city

569
00:41:43,969 --> 00:41:53,270
on parcels. Yes. I don't have the entire staff report

570
00:41:53,350 --> 00:41:55,030
in front of me in the background report. But as

571
00:41:55,110 --> 00:41:56,950
I seem to recall, there was some mention of the

572
00:41:58,150 --> 00:42:02,150
offshore win. And I mentioned this before about assembly bill

573
00:42:02,470 --> 00:42:05,110
three where the California energy commission is looking at seaport

574
00:42:05,430 --> 00:42:08,201
readiness. I don't know if that means that we're on

575
00:42:08,361 --> 00:42:11,561
the radar screen or not and how that might affect

576
00:42:11,641 --> 00:42:16,290
us or how we could at least. Put some safeguards

577
00:42:16,370 --> 00:42:19,730
in to protect our port from what they want to

578
00:42:19,810 --> 00:42:23,330
do. I know they're really studying heavily up and humbled

579
00:42:23,330 --> 00:42:28,330
right now. But, um, it looks, there's a map and

580
00:42:28,330 --> 00:42:32,330
they're showing different locations for ports. You know, one Nikki

581
00:42:32,410 --> 00:42:35,530
Beach up there earned a delydios property that was named

582
00:42:35,610 --> 00:42:38,737
after his dog, Nikki. There's also one down on the

583
00:42:38,977 --> 00:42:41,137
Holosser ranch drakes. I can't believe they would even think

584
00:42:41,217 --> 00:42:44,177
of putting something there because that's probably going the best

585
00:42:44,337 --> 00:42:46,940
reference parts in the entire city of California. Um, but

586
00:42:48,460 --> 00:42:52,780
we need to be aware of what the California energy

587
00:42:53,020 --> 00:42:55,660
commission might be looking at when they come into our

588
00:42:55,740 --> 00:42:58,300
town. And maybe we should focus on some sort of

589
00:42:58,860 --> 00:43:06,770
safeguards there. Mark, any questions on the presentation itself, other

590
00:43:06,770 --> 00:43:08,370
than the background report. At this time, I don't know.

591
00:43:10,253 --> 00:43:18,614
Mary. Yeah, I had a few questions. First, on page

592
00:43:19,094 --> 00:43:23,814
47 of the background report, um, it discussed it. It

593
00:43:23,974 --> 00:43:27,734
has a comment that most, uh, nearly half the land

594
00:43:27,734 --> 00:43:29,494
and more obey is part of the state park or

595
00:43:29,574 --> 00:43:32,534
the beach. And because of that, the largest land use

596
00:43:32,774 --> 00:43:35,094
in the waterfront master plan area is open space slash

597
00:43:35,334 --> 00:43:41,014
conservation. Um, I was wondering if that is a comment

598
00:43:41,494 --> 00:43:46,374
of Moro Bay or specifically the land that was in

599
00:43:46,534 --> 00:43:51,494
scope for the waterfront master plan update because, um, just

600
00:43:52,134 --> 00:43:54,454
at a quick glance on the map, it seems that

601
00:43:54,534 --> 00:43:59,254
if we limited that comment to the in scope land,

602
00:43:59,174 --> 00:44:03,414
it might not be mostly open space. Yeah. Thank you,

603
00:44:03,334 --> 00:44:06,774
Committee Member Wakalsky. That's a great point. So that would

604
00:44:06,774 --> 00:44:09,254
have to be referencing all of Morvay, not just the

605
00:44:09,334 --> 00:44:13,522
waterfront master plan, plantaria. So we will make sure that

606
00:44:13,842 --> 00:44:21,160
this is corrected. So that's clear. Okay. Thanks. Um, and

607
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:28,891
then I was another just kind of question. I was

608
00:44:29,291 --> 00:44:35,531
wondering, um, what kind of this source reference or stakeholder

609
00:44:35,611 --> 00:44:41,211
was at the comment on, this is on page 100.

610
00:44:41,131 --> 00:44:46,731
There was, um, a key takeaway that fermented leases, um,

611
00:44:47,131 --> 00:44:49,851
make it difficult to curate future development. And I was

612
00:44:50,091 --> 00:44:51,851
interested behind that takeaway.

613
00:45:00,754 --> 00:45:02,754
So Amy, is that something you can respond to? Do

614
00:45:02,674 --> 00:45:06,708
you have that in front of you. Yeah. Um, I'm

615
00:45:06,788 --> 00:45:13,222
looking for that page, but in the stakeholder interviews. No,

616
00:45:13,222 --> 00:45:16,894
I was just, it's a hundred in the bottom. Left.

617
00:45:16,814 --> 00:45:20,414
I call out that takeaway that is specific to fragmented

618
00:45:20,494 --> 00:45:24,174
leases. And I was just, if you had the source

619
00:45:24,334 --> 00:45:28,559
behind that, um, key takeaway to share. Okay. Is it

620
00:45:28,559 --> 00:45:35,201
page one PDF. Or page 100 agenda package? Yeah. Okay.

621
00:45:35,681 --> 00:45:35,841
One second.

622
00:45:51,481 --> 00:45:55,081
So this end, so, um, I believe this is these

623
00:45:55,081 --> 00:45:58,121
are conclusions that, um, were made as part of the

624
00:45:58,281 --> 00:46:01,547
market scan, you know, based on the analysis. In that

625
00:46:01,547 --> 00:46:04,667
study, but I can follow up with HRNA who did

626
00:46:04,747 --> 00:46:08,689
the details on that. And there they can say about

627
00:46:08,849 --> 00:46:16,643
that. Okay. Thank you. Grace, any questions in the presentation?

628
00:46:16,563 --> 00:46:18,803
Okay. I don't have any questions on the presentation at

629
00:46:18,803 --> 00:46:22,022
this time. Uh, let's have on with the community workshop

630
00:46:22,342 --> 00:46:28,463
presentation. Okay. And I don't even know if you guys

631
00:46:28,703 --> 00:46:30,063
can see me on the video, but I was having

632
00:46:30,223 --> 00:46:32,623
a little bit of Zoom stalling out. So I'm turning

633
00:46:32,623 --> 00:46:36,199
off my video in hopes that that won't happen. More.

634
00:46:36,119 --> 00:46:39,799
Um, yeah, so we're really excited. We're finalizing materials for

635
00:46:40,119 --> 00:46:44,579
workshop number two on February 25th. With the city staff

636
00:46:44,819 --> 00:46:49,767
currently. Um, that'll be in the evening again here, or

637
00:46:49,847 --> 00:46:53,207
where you guys are today at the Best Memorial Building.

638
00:46:53,127 --> 00:46:55,687
I think you've all received the flyer. It didn't make

639
00:46:55,687 --> 00:46:58,487
it into the packet, but it is now out and

640
00:46:58,567 --> 00:47:03,592
available. Um, the goals are to share an overview of

641
00:47:03,912 --> 00:47:07,992
the project. And that's something we did at workshop one,

642
00:47:07,912 --> 00:47:10,312
two, but we want to continue to do that, especially

643
00:47:10,552 --> 00:47:12,632
for those who may not have made it to any

644
00:47:12,952 --> 00:47:16,062
outreach so far. Um, we'll share a summary of input

645
00:47:16,382 --> 00:47:22,061
received. At workshop one. Um, we will have, uh, I'll

646
00:47:22,061 --> 00:47:26,461
get into kind of the proposed agenda or approach in

647
00:47:26,461 --> 00:47:29,821
a minute, but, um, in the middle of the workshop,

648
00:47:29,741 --> 00:47:32,941
we're planning to have a interactive presentation that will focus

649
00:47:33,101 --> 00:47:39,304
on the background report. And the draft vision statement. Excuse

650
00:47:39,384 --> 00:47:44,024
me, and some, um, thoughts on areas of change. So

651
00:47:44,184 --> 00:47:45,624
that's one of the reasons we're hoping to get your

652
00:47:45,784 --> 00:47:50,664
feedback on that question today. Um, and then there will

653
00:47:50,744 --> 00:47:55,704
be an opportunity to initiate some discussion about the street

654
00:47:55,864 --> 00:48:00,664
end opportunity sites as well as to have some feedback

655
00:48:00,824 --> 00:48:04,188
on what we've heard so far about. Proposals for each

656
00:48:04,348 --> 00:48:07,708
character area. Ireland mentioned this at the beginning, uh, but

657
00:48:08,508 --> 00:48:11,308
looking at, you know, what has been talked about so

658
00:48:11,388 --> 00:48:15,708
far to continue from the 1996 plan in addition to

659
00:48:15,948 --> 00:48:20,668
other ideas that we've heard during the process so far.

660
00:48:20,588 --> 00:48:26,935
Next slide, please. As he mentioned, um, we have a

661
00:48:27,015 --> 00:48:30,455
proposed approach or agenda. This is a different approach than

662
00:48:30,775 --> 00:48:35,495
the workshop number one. There is some time for open

663
00:48:35,655 --> 00:48:38,135
house like workshop number one at the beginning and at

664
00:48:38,215 --> 00:48:41,255
the end where there will be some stations. And I'll

665
00:48:41,335 --> 00:48:43,735
describe those on the next slide. But in the middle

666
00:48:44,455 --> 00:48:48,215
about half of the workshop time will be dedicated to,

667
00:48:48,135 --> 00:48:54,055
um, a presentation that will include, um, some interactive discussion

668
00:48:54,455 --> 00:48:59,175
as well as, um, polling using memento meter software. And

669
00:48:59,255 --> 00:49:03,592
that will focus on, you know, providing. A presentation similar

670
00:49:03,672 --> 00:49:06,552
to the one today, but a little more lengthy about

671
00:49:06,712 --> 00:49:10,712
the background report since there hasn't been a public workshop

672
00:49:10,792 --> 00:49:16,258
on that yet, as well as the vision statement. Like

673
00:49:16,258 --> 00:49:19,746
I mentioned before. Uh, so we hope that people will

674
00:49:19,986 --> 00:49:23,266
kind of take the time to roam around the stations

675
00:49:23,586 --> 00:49:27,756
at the beginning. Participate in the presentation and then perhaps

676
00:49:27,836 --> 00:49:30,716
have more to say, um, at some of the stations

677
00:49:30,796 --> 00:49:34,956
after that or just have discussion with staff, project team

678
00:49:35,676 --> 00:49:41,655
and others. Next slide, please. So the stations for the

679
00:49:41,815 --> 00:49:45,175
open house part of the workshop, um, would be that

680
00:49:45,335 --> 00:49:48,215
project overview. Again, this is, um, this is something we

681
00:49:49,015 --> 00:49:52,695
plan to have available throughout the project. The draft vision

682
00:49:52,695 --> 00:49:56,775
statement and receive input on that before we bring it

683
00:49:56,775 --> 00:50:02,638
back to the WAMPAC to discuss. The ideas and proposals

684
00:50:02,638 --> 00:50:07,998
that I mentioned for each character area. Some initial prioritization

685
00:50:08,078 --> 00:50:14,238
about how, um, we might identify which street ends our

686
00:50:14,238 --> 00:50:19,198
opportunities for development or redevelopment. And then we'll have a

687
00:50:19,198 --> 00:50:22,991
children's activity area. Again, uh, like workshop number one. Hopefully

688
00:50:23,071 --> 00:50:25,871
we can get some kids there this time. And I

689
00:50:25,791 --> 00:50:32,727
believe that's the last slide. So before we move on

690
00:50:32,727 --> 00:50:36,087
to the final element of the presentation, are there any

691
00:50:36,167 --> 00:50:40,564
questions from the committee on the presentation. Start with committee

692
00:50:40,564 --> 00:50:45,279
member Watowski. Um, my first question is on the mentometer

693
00:50:46,159 --> 00:50:50,639
survey tool. Um, will you include an optional question to

694
00:50:50,879 --> 00:50:54,479
collect demographic data and will we be able to receive

695
00:50:54,799 --> 00:50:58,349
a readout of the raw data. Um, after the workshop.

696
00:51:02,392 --> 00:51:04,312
Hi, so we're working with the city staff right now

697
00:51:04,552 --> 00:51:07,672
on the presentation. And if, if the city would like

698
00:51:07,992 --> 00:51:11,552
to include demographics question, we're happy to. And I don't

699
00:51:11,712 --> 00:51:15,552
see why there wouldn't be the opportunity to make the

700
00:51:15,792 --> 00:51:21,750
raw data available, at least to the committee. Yeah. I'll

701
00:51:21,830 --> 00:51:24,150
also defer to staff if they want to say anything

702
00:51:24,150 --> 00:51:26,790
else. Um, yeah, thank you, Amy. I would just add

703
00:51:26,950 --> 00:51:32,710
that that's something that we could easily program into mentometer.

704
00:51:32,630 --> 00:51:36,630
Um, that may not be typical question we would ask.

705
00:51:36,550 --> 00:51:38,230
So I'm going to defer to WAMPAC of that's data

706
00:51:38,310 --> 00:51:40,470
that you really want to see. Then we'll put it

707
00:51:40,550 --> 00:51:42,310
in there and we'll collect that data at the next

708
00:51:42,390 --> 00:51:48,511
workshop. All right. My second question is what owned and

709
00:51:48,511 --> 00:51:53,023
non - owned channels are you marketing the workshop. On.

710
00:51:55,223 --> 00:51:59,943
Owned being, um, a city parks in rack Instagram not

711
00:51:59,943 --> 00:52:09,657
owned being next door as an example. I'll start. I

712
00:52:09,577 --> 00:52:12,537
know we are working with a school district, uh, to

713
00:52:12,617 --> 00:52:16,057
get the flyer out. I believe that it's been posted

714
00:52:16,217 --> 00:52:19,943
on all of the city owned channels. And I think

715
00:52:20,503 --> 00:52:25,383
staff mentioned at least one other venue that I'm forgetting

716
00:52:26,023 --> 00:52:27,623
if you guys want to weigh in. Yeah. Thanks Amy.

717
00:52:27,543 --> 00:52:30,423
So we would promote it in the similar fashion as

718
00:52:30,583 --> 00:52:35,783
a last workshop. So that included Facebook, LinkedIn, of course,

719
00:52:35,783 --> 00:52:38,823
the city's Facebook page, City LinkedIn page. I believe we

720
00:52:38,983 --> 00:52:44,183
also put it on next door. The hot topics on

721
00:52:44,183 --> 00:52:47,783
the front of the city webpage and Amy mentioned the

722
00:52:48,023 --> 00:52:54,389
schools. And of course peanut up and down. The embarkadero

723
00:52:54,469 --> 00:52:56,549
in downtown heading out flyers. But as far as like

724
00:52:56,629 --> 00:52:59,641
online, um, forums, those are the main ones. And we're

725
00:52:59,721 --> 00:53:02,030
open to other suggestions as well. And this time we'll

726
00:53:02,030 --> 00:53:05,550
also be forwarding the flyer to our recreation department to

727
00:53:05,550 --> 00:53:13,929
get it in there newsletter. Am I member Hanson any

728
00:53:13,929 --> 00:53:20,800
questions on the presentation. On this side. Yeah. I had

729
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:22,240
a thought. I don't know if we can do it

730
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:25,708
in the next workshop or a subsequent workshop. Would it

731
00:53:25,708 --> 00:53:28,508
be nice if we had like a presentation showing a

732
00:53:28,508 --> 00:53:32,748
drone video going down the entire length and then maybe

733
00:53:32,828 --> 00:53:35,388
coming back along the waterfront side, you know, Gene Dowdy

734
00:53:35,548 --> 00:53:37,548
always brought up about, you know, we're not seeing the

735
00:53:37,708 --> 00:53:40,881
water sign of this. And during the presentation, the workshopping

736
00:53:40,961 --> 00:53:43,441
show a little video of going up and down both

737
00:53:43,521 --> 00:53:48,241
sides, everything just to get visual impact of what, what

738
00:53:48,401 --> 00:53:49,921
it all looks like. We don't have to do it

739
00:53:49,921 --> 00:53:53,361
on this next workshop, but maybe on a subsequent workshop,

740
00:53:53,281 --> 00:53:57,591
it's an idea. Well, thank you, Committee member Donnelly. Our

741
00:53:57,671 --> 00:53:58,951
harbor director Chris Munson, he's on it.

742
00:54:07,863 --> 00:54:10,023
Committee member, talk to Zini. Any questions in the presentation?

743
00:54:10,023 --> 00:54:11,543
I have none either. Let's move on to the next

744
00:54:11,703 --> 00:54:16,594
item. So I get to take the next and final

745
00:54:16,834 --> 00:54:22,590
item. So I came up with this terminology issue focus.

746
00:54:22,510 --> 00:54:24,910
We know that this waterfront master plan update is going

747
00:54:25,070 --> 00:54:27,870
to tackle head - on. Some kind of key issues

748
00:54:28,030 --> 00:54:30,350
that have been a hot discussion topics in the community

749
00:54:30,510 --> 00:54:32,670
for a while. One of them is the question of

750
00:54:33,070 --> 00:54:36,430
street and pedestrian connections. So this is really just to

751
00:54:36,430 --> 00:54:40,110
introduce the conversation as Amy mentioned. This will be a

752
00:54:40,110 --> 00:54:43,070
focus of the workshop to get some initial input from

753
00:54:43,310 --> 00:54:46,190
the community on kind of the prioritization of the street

754
00:54:46,190 --> 00:54:48,670
ends that make the most sense to convert into public

755
00:54:49,150 --> 00:54:53,950
spaces. So I, in the next few slides, bar kind

756
00:54:53,870 --> 00:54:56,910
of initial, internal thoughts on this topic and we want

757
00:54:56,830 --> 00:54:59,790
to hear from the WAMPAC and community as we begin

758
00:54:59,790 --> 00:55:02,925
to move forward on this. So here's what we're talking

759
00:55:03,005 --> 00:55:08,533
about. So this slide has a map on the left,

760
00:55:08,453 --> 00:55:11,093
the same map will be used on a large poster

761
00:55:11,173 --> 00:55:15,413
board during the workshop to illustrate the seven street and

762
00:55:15,413 --> 00:55:19,733
parking lots that are referenced in Plan Morro Bay. On

763
00:55:19,733 --> 00:55:23,813
the right, you have, of course, verbatim, uh, policy circulation

764
00:55:24,453 --> 00:55:28,693
2. 2 street and pedestrian connections. This is in our

765
00:55:28,693 --> 00:55:33,253
current general plan. The waterfront master plan will implement the

766
00:55:33,413 --> 00:55:36,213
general plan. That's the most at a high level that's

767
00:55:36,213 --> 00:55:38,613
the most important concept of this planning document is it

768
00:55:38,693 --> 00:55:42,613
must implement the general plan, including this, this policy. So

769
00:55:42,693 --> 00:55:45,173
this is something that needs to happen and the waterfront

770
00:55:45,253 --> 00:55:47,173
master plan is how we get to decide as a

771
00:55:47,173 --> 00:55:51,176
city, how we want to implement this policy. I also

772
00:55:51,256 --> 00:55:55,016
highlighted just some key terms in this policy that are

773
00:55:55,096 --> 00:56:00,296
worth contemplating. One is, because we had past redevelopment projects

774
00:56:00,776 --> 00:56:03,016
where there were conversations on the embarkader where there were

775
00:56:03,016 --> 00:56:06,136
conversations about converting the street and parking lots into a

776
00:56:06,216 --> 00:56:10,456
public plaza, I think that plaza concept versus the pedestrian

777
00:56:10,536 --> 00:56:13,256
connection concept have been little conflated. So I just want

778
00:56:13,176 --> 00:56:15,656
to point out that really we're talking about pedestrian connections

779
00:56:16,296 --> 00:56:18,216
that could be a plaza. A plaza might make sense

780
00:56:18,616 --> 00:56:20,856
uncertain street ends and other street ends that might make

781
00:56:21,816 --> 00:56:24,825
might not make sense. Um, then I highlight here across

782
00:56:25,385 --> 00:56:29,305
the street ends. Really, it's about lateral access. So there's

783
00:56:29,385 --> 00:56:32,585
continuous, you know, pedestrian connectivity along the west side of

784
00:56:33,225 --> 00:56:36,406
embark at Arrow. And again, that may include or may

785
00:56:36,406 --> 00:56:39,126
not include a plaza in the middle or there could

786
00:56:39,126 --> 00:56:40,726
be something else. That's what we get to decide in

787
00:56:40,806 --> 00:56:43,626
our plan as a community. Then I highlighted, including by

788
00:56:43,946 --> 00:56:48,346
relocating, parking from these areas, our interpretation of that is

789
00:56:48,346 --> 00:56:51,626
that we locating the parking out of these areas to

790
00:56:51,706 --> 00:56:56,186
somewhere else on the, uh, the waterfront is required element

791
00:56:56,266 --> 00:57:00,187
of this, of this policy. So I wanted to share

792
00:57:00,427 --> 00:57:03,787
kind of our initial, um, impressions of, you know, what

793
00:57:04,027 --> 00:57:10,267
this means. And I walked the waterfront frequently. And I

794
00:57:10,587 --> 00:57:13,547
do believe that there is a real public purpose being

795
00:57:13,867 --> 00:57:16,907
forwarded by this policy. I think everyone in this room

796
00:57:17,067 --> 00:57:19,147
has walked the waterfront many, many times, you know, when

797
00:57:19,147 --> 00:57:21,787
you're walking on the sidewalk along. The west side of

798
00:57:21,867 --> 00:57:25,307
Embarcadero, when you come to a street end and a

799
00:57:25,387 --> 00:57:27,627
car, you know, is turning in front of you, it

800
00:57:27,627 --> 00:57:30,827
really interrupts the flow and create some safety concerns and

801
00:57:30,827 --> 00:57:33,307
kind of just impact the vibe of walking down the

802
00:57:33,627 --> 00:57:41,626
embarkadero. Now policy talks about, you know, replacing parking. So

803
00:57:41,626 --> 00:57:46,586
I want to be clear that we're not looking to

804
00:57:46,586 --> 00:57:48,666
reach a proposal, whether it be a net loss of

805
00:57:48,746 --> 00:57:51,546
parking spaces. So the waterfront master plan is really the

806
00:57:51,706 --> 00:57:53,946
tool where we're going to develop a circulation concept that

807
00:57:54,106 --> 00:57:59,786
shows through restringing. We've heard conversations about parking structure. Maybe

808
00:57:59,946 --> 00:58:02,026
there are other areas in the waterfront master plan area

809
00:58:02,346 --> 00:58:05,066
where more parking spaces could be generated. The point is

810
00:58:05,466 --> 00:58:09,306
our circulation concepts will have to show how exactly those

811
00:58:09,786 --> 00:58:12,826
lost parking spaces will be replaced in a realistic way.

812
00:58:14,775 --> 00:58:17,015
And then also, as I mentioned, some of the street

813
00:58:17,095 --> 00:58:19,335
end parking lots make sense to be converted to a

814
00:58:19,415 --> 00:58:23,335
public space. Others that may not make as much sense,

815
00:58:23,255 --> 00:58:26,215
um, it's, it's worth discussion. And I think this may

816
00:58:26,855 --> 00:58:30,615
be a topic where there's not everyone's going to agree,

817
00:58:30,535 --> 00:58:32,855
but it's worth discussion on for when we have a

818
00:58:32,855 --> 00:58:35,335
smaller lease site adjacent to a speed of the parking

819
00:58:35,335 --> 00:58:37,415
lot. Does it make sense to expand the available area

820
00:58:37,575 --> 00:58:41,015
of that lease site onto one of the street ends.

821
00:58:42,493 --> 00:58:44,893
Or a portion of, again, we want to put all

822
00:58:44,893 --> 00:58:48,986
the ideas out there and get the public input. Then

823
00:58:49,386 --> 00:58:51,866
finally, as I, you know, mentioned really, we have to

824
00:58:51,946 --> 00:58:54,426
implement the policy, but we get to decide through this

825
00:58:54,506 --> 00:58:57,146
plan how we're going to implement the policy. And I

826
00:58:57,066 --> 00:59:00,586
think some of the most important criteria for that are

827
00:59:00,826 --> 00:59:02,906
financing. So who pays for this? Does it come out

828
00:59:03,066 --> 00:59:08,321
of the city budget. Of course, we all know limited

829
00:59:08,401 --> 00:59:11,121
resources of no resources to really fund this from the

830
00:59:11,201 --> 00:59:13,761
city budget. But do we look at adjacent, at least

831
00:59:13,921 --> 00:59:16,641
site developers, which has been the approach on the liberty

832
00:59:16,641 --> 00:59:20,444
and redevelopment project that went through entitlements. Last year or

833
00:59:20,444 --> 00:59:22,044
a couple of years ago. Um, do we come up

834
00:59:22,044 --> 00:59:25,164
with some in Luffy structure? So financing is an element

835
00:59:25,164 --> 00:59:27,244
to look at in the plan, then design, again, how

836
00:59:27,324 --> 00:59:28,684
do we want each of the three dens to look

837
00:59:29,164 --> 00:59:33,404
and function? So the public plaza expanding adjacent lease site.

838
00:59:33,324 --> 00:59:35,884
Are there areas where we do want to retain sublimited

839
00:59:35,964 --> 00:59:39,804
vehicle access? I mean, to, you'll be realistic looking at

840
00:59:39,884 --> 00:59:43,404
the harbor street end. That is also the, uh, egress

841
00:59:43,484 --> 00:59:45,564
for the Anderson in. So that screened is going to

842
00:59:45,644 --> 00:59:50,245
look different than the moral bay boulevard street end. And

843
00:59:50,245 --> 00:59:51,685
really the plan allows us to look on a case

844
00:59:51,765 --> 00:59:54,005
by case basis to decide as a community, what makes

845
00:59:54,005 --> 00:59:56,725
sense for each of these areas, keeping in mind that

846
00:59:56,725 --> 01:00:01,595
we are going to identify replacement parking. Then finally, a

847
01:00:01,675 --> 01:00:04,955
timing and priority. So like I mentioned, we are going

848
01:00:04,955 --> 01:00:08,075
to ask the public to help us rank the street

849
01:00:08,075 --> 01:00:09,835
ends that make the most sense to convert a public

850
01:00:09,995 --> 01:00:15,226
spaces sooner rather than later. And I already talked about

851
01:00:15,226 --> 01:00:17,386
this. So this will be one of the activities at

852
01:00:17,386 --> 01:00:19,706
the public workshop. So that concludes this part of the

853
01:00:19,786 --> 01:00:26,090
presentation. Thank you, Director. Again, any, I'll start at my

854
01:00:26,090 --> 01:00:30,250
left. Any questions on the presentation material only, not the

855
01:00:30,970 --> 01:00:35,764
evaluation of the issue. James. Yeah. You showed on your

856
01:00:35,764 --> 01:00:40,183
exhibit theory you have dunes street end. I don't know

857
01:00:40,343 --> 01:00:43,303
where the dunes ends at the bluff. So it doesn't

858
01:00:43,783 --> 01:00:46,263
make its way down to the embark and doll. So

859
01:00:46,423 --> 01:00:48,263
I don't know why that's showing. That would be the

860
01:00:48,583 --> 01:00:53,063
parking just adjacent to north of Anchor Park right there.

861
01:00:53,143 --> 01:00:59,021
Think the parking spaces. Geo's parking lot. Yes. At wavelengths

862
01:00:59,421 --> 01:01:02,777
or at. On, on, on, on the west side. So.

863
01:01:04,796 --> 01:01:08,838
It's between anchor park and Giovanni's. Then when you mentioned

864
01:01:09,478 --> 01:01:11,958
Front Street and Moral Bay Builder, that's what one and

865
01:01:11,958 --> 01:01:14,683
the same. That's where the libertine is. That'd be that

866
01:01:14,843 --> 01:01:22,381
parking area. Yes. It was one or the other. What

867
01:01:22,381 --> 01:01:23,981
is it? So it was, it was, it was difficult

868
01:01:24,221 --> 01:01:27,261
for us to determine exactly what was intended by, by

869
01:01:27,501 --> 01:01:32,313
front street. If that was referencing the Morobet Boulevard or

870
01:01:32,393 --> 01:01:37,600
the beach street. The point's, if you look at the

871
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:40,960
map here, it's pretty straightforward what the street ends actually

872
01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:44,080
are. There have been again, some confusion on what was

873
01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:53,676
intended by the front street street end. Also, um. The,

874
01:01:53,596 --> 01:01:57,516
uh, plan moral bay. I think I asked this one

875
01:01:57,596 --> 01:02:00,743
of the first meetings we had. And you had mentioned

876
01:02:00,903 --> 01:02:02,823
that it was in the Plan Moral Bay, but Plan

877
01:02:02,903 --> 01:02:06,023
Moral Bay says you didn't provide that section, but the

878
01:02:06,103 --> 01:02:09,383
policy says that the city shall conduct a study to

879
01:02:09,383 --> 01:02:12,503
see how to consolidate parking. In essence, to mitigate the

880
01:02:12,903 --> 01:02:16,504
loss. So I don't know what you would do. Does

881
01:02:16,664 --> 01:02:20,424
that make narrowest parking spaces or parking on top of

882
01:02:20,424 --> 01:02:23,464
one another? I mean, how would you consolidate parking to

883
01:02:23,464 --> 01:02:27,064
mitigate the loss? And there's like 45 to 47 parking

884
01:02:27,144 --> 01:02:30,424
spots that would be lost four or five of which

885
01:02:30,584 --> 01:02:33,384
are handicap. So are we going to be out of

886
01:02:33,464 --> 01:02:37,384
compliance with the ADA because we lost handicap parking? Are

887
01:02:37,384 --> 01:02:40,504
we going to really the inventory be actually, I don't

888
01:02:40,584 --> 01:02:42,664
see how you can make up for it for the

889
01:02:42,824 --> 01:02:44,824
loss. So I think that's the beauty of this, this

890
01:02:44,904 --> 01:02:47,384
process. Because so far it's been kind of an abstract

891
01:02:47,944 --> 01:02:52,184
conversation where we hear those very, um, important questions that

892
01:02:52,424 --> 01:02:54,344
we'll have to figure out. And when we get to

893
01:02:54,744 --> 01:02:57,144
June, we're going to have those land use and circulation

894
01:02:57,544 --> 01:03:01,544
concept plans, which will actually show exactly how it would

895
01:03:01,624 --> 01:03:07,224
be affulation alternatives and where there is capacity through restriving

896
01:03:07,784 --> 01:03:10,984
or other ways to increase a number of parking spaces

897
01:03:10,984 --> 01:03:12,664
to make up for these. So we are going to

898
01:03:12,744 --> 01:03:15,674
get there and actually show those on a map. Over

899
01:03:15,754 --> 01:03:18,474
the next several months. And to put in the street

900
01:03:18,954 --> 01:03:22,554
end plazas or whatever you want to call them is

901
01:03:22,554 --> 01:03:24,634
that, would that be considered close to dependent? In other

902
01:03:24,794 --> 01:03:26,634
words, they have to be there in order to function

903
01:03:27,274 --> 01:03:31,514
under the coastal act. I would argue that the parking

904
01:03:31,674 --> 01:03:34,634
is more central. I talked a lot of the businesses

905
01:03:34,794 --> 01:03:36,074
down and this is, Oh, we don't want to lose

906
01:03:36,154 --> 01:03:38,954
that parking. That's what we need for their businesses. So

907
01:03:39,114 --> 01:03:42,394
to put in a plaza instead, again, is it need

908
01:03:42,394 --> 01:03:45,274
to be there in order to function or could a

909
01:03:45,274 --> 01:03:48,329
plausibly put pretty much anywhere else. Why don't we save

910
01:03:48,409 --> 01:03:52,969
that those comments for our valuation and comment, um, at

911
01:03:52,969 --> 01:03:56,249
this point, let's just ask questions on the material, the

912
01:03:56,329 --> 01:03:59,209
three slides on this to clarify those. And we'll have

913
01:03:59,209 --> 01:04:01,369
plenty of opportunity here from the public on this as

914
01:04:01,369 --> 01:04:05,049
well as our own recommendations. That's all I have. Thank

915
01:04:05,049 --> 01:04:12,842
you. Many member Tugnazine, any questions. Yes.

916
01:04:18,243 --> 01:04:20,083
I had a question. If you could remind me, is

917
01:04:20,083 --> 01:04:23,123
there a guidance on what, um, time horizon. We should

918
01:04:23,123 --> 01:04:30,195
be considering in the plans. So there's not, there's not

919
01:04:30,195 --> 01:04:36,544
a timeline guidance in this policy. The timeline for the

920
01:04:36,704 --> 01:04:41,596
waterfront master plant update, I believe is 25 years. And

921
01:04:42,156 --> 01:04:44,636
again, the waterfront master plan is our tool to implement

922
01:04:44,876 --> 01:04:47,356
this policy. So I would say within the time frame

923
01:04:47,356 --> 01:04:49,996
of the waterfront master plan is when we would have

924
01:04:49,996 --> 01:04:58,389
to implement. This policy. Hansen, any questions on the presentation.

925
01:05:00,244 --> 01:05:04,324
My only comment on the presentation is that I did

926
01:05:04,324 --> 01:05:07,364
a deep dive into kind of the legal area where

927
01:05:07,604 --> 01:05:10,477
these are. They show up on maps. It would be

928
01:05:10,717 --> 01:05:13,997
helpful to have the map that was displayed, I think

929
01:05:14,077 --> 01:05:16,717
is the first slide on a much larger basis and

930
01:05:16,717 --> 01:05:20,397
maybe even dimensioned. You can pull the dimensions off probably

931
01:05:20,397 --> 01:05:24,836
a GIS map. But it's surprising to see what actually

932
01:05:25,396 --> 01:05:29,676
is a street end. We sometimes it's a parking lot

933
01:05:30,156 --> 01:05:33,957
sometimes. It looks like a private parking lot. Uh, some

934
01:05:34,037 --> 01:05:36,357
of it is in the Libertines case. Some of that

935
01:05:36,437 --> 01:05:40,819
is on private property. Um, so I guess my ask

936
01:05:40,979 --> 01:05:43,219
on the presentation is that that's kind of at a

937
01:05:43,219 --> 01:05:46,123
high level to fit everything on one slide. But I

938
01:05:46,363 --> 01:05:48,523
would recommend for any presentation you have to the public

939
01:05:49,083 --> 01:05:51,963
that you actually zoom in on what do they just

940
01:05:51,963 --> 01:05:56,759
have a line around where the legal property is. The

941
01:05:56,919 --> 01:05:59,079
city may own property around that, but that may be

942
01:05:59,159 --> 01:06:02,999
a different issue. So let's understand what it is, how

943
01:06:03,079 --> 01:06:05,573
wide it is, how deep it is. Maybe how it

944
01:06:05,653 --> 01:06:09,347
relates to lease sites adjacently sites or so. You got

945
01:06:09,507 --> 01:06:16,084
it. Okay. Thanks. With that, I'll open it up for

946
01:06:16,244 --> 01:06:20,183
public comment. Under the city's rules and special advisory committee

947
01:06:20,263 --> 01:06:24,103
regulations, public equipment opportunity to provide comment on items on

948
01:06:24,183 --> 01:06:28,199
the agenda. Because of the multiple action items covered comments

949
01:06:28,359 --> 01:06:31,239
will be limited to five minutes rather than the customary

950
01:06:31,639 --> 01:06:35,835
three. As always, committee members are encouraged to submit agenda

951
01:06:36,075 --> 01:06:38,075
correspondence prior to the media. And we did probably receive

952
01:06:38,635 --> 01:06:41,515
six or seven pieces of agenda correspondent. So thank you

953
01:06:41,435 --> 01:06:44,248
to that. And as I said at the beginning of

954
01:06:44,168 --> 01:06:47,448
the meeting, don't feel the need to run out the

955
01:06:47,608 --> 01:06:50,328
clock if you have some time. Let somebody else have

956
01:06:50,408 --> 01:06:52,808
it because we're, we're pressed up here to kind of

957
01:06:52,808 --> 01:06:56,328
get out. Hab has to come in. So with that,

958
01:06:56,248 --> 01:06:58,488
I'll open it up for public comment from the floor.

959
01:07:04,411 --> 01:07:06,651
Good afternoon. Uh, my name is Eric Meyer. I'm speaking

960
01:07:06,811 --> 01:07:09,451
as a private citizen. Um, I sent you a letter

961
01:07:09,531 --> 01:07:13,371
which I won't reiterate. Um, I comment to Amy. Hi,

962
01:07:13,291 --> 01:07:16,411
Amy and to staff with respect to the master plans

963
01:07:16,891 --> 01:07:20,491
that should perhaps be also included as reference material background

964
01:07:21,211 --> 01:07:25,051
specifically the pedestrian and bicycle master plan 2011 12.

965
01:07:32,272 --> 01:07:34,192
Uh, and that should be included because it does have

966
01:07:34,352 --> 01:07:39,392
a number of objectives and goals specifically around pedestrian interface

967
01:07:39,712 --> 01:07:43,632
and bicycle connections, uh, and the types of amenities associate

968
01:07:43,792 --> 01:07:45,552
difficult to find you can't get online is I had

969
01:07:45,552 --> 01:07:48,272
to actually ask the director for a link and he's

970
01:07:48,992 --> 01:07:51,717
gracefully sent a link. Uh, so.

971
01:08:05,154 --> 01:08:07,714
That's point one. Point two is in addition to what

972
01:08:07,794 --> 01:08:09,874
I sent you. And I went out and I measured

973
01:08:09,954 --> 01:08:14,354
all these street ends and driftwood through moral bay boulevard

974
01:08:14,754 --> 01:08:18,114
street ends or 69 feet wide curb to curb, uh,

975
01:08:18,514 --> 01:08:21,394
with 90 degree parking. The harbor street one is 56

976
01:08:21,474 --> 01:08:26,114
feet wide. And it's about the bare minimum for 90

977
01:08:26,194 --> 01:08:28,754
degree curb to curb actually a little less than the

978
01:08:29,074 --> 01:08:33,234
pendulum. Um, but the bare minimum is 64 feet curb

979
01:08:33,234 --> 01:08:36,194
to curb for 90 degree. And so I'm, I'm concerned

980
01:08:36,594 --> 01:08:39,314
not only about lateral access, which is accessed parallel to

981
01:08:39,394 --> 01:08:41,954
the waterfront. But the vertical access, if each of those

982
01:08:42,114 --> 01:08:46,354
sidewalks vertically accessing, you know, 90 degrees to the water

983
01:08:47,554 --> 01:08:52,114
are relatively skinny walk. And over time, if we were

984
01:08:52,194 --> 01:08:54,994
redeveloping, we could narrow the parking lanes if we were

985
01:08:55,234 --> 01:08:58,274
to maintain parking. We could narrow them down to the

986
01:08:58,274 --> 01:09:00,034
minimum, which is 60 in a couple of feet on

987
01:09:00,194 --> 01:09:05,314
either. Financially important to do it right now. But as

988
01:09:05,474 --> 01:09:07,154
things are changing, that would be the time to do

989
01:09:07,074 --> 01:09:11,634
it. Um, and then additionally with respect to lateral access

990
01:09:11,874 --> 01:09:14,994
along the west side of, um, if we were to

991
01:09:15,714 --> 01:09:20,834
bounce, uh, at the, uh, across each of those, uh,

992
01:09:21,314 --> 01:09:25,474
Pacific, et cetera, we would narrow the pedestrian travel 20

993
01:09:25,474 --> 01:09:28,834
feet instead of being 60. Because you wouldn't be including

994
01:09:29,314 --> 01:09:31,234
this space right at the edge of the, or the

995
01:09:31,314 --> 01:09:34,514
cars are parked on immediately east of the parked cars.

996
01:09:37,657 --> 01:09:40,057
Uh, if we could do some sort of hybrid situation

997
01:09:40,617 --> 01:09:47,732
by keeping, let's say 80 percent of the parking. That

998
01:09:47,892 --> 01:09:50,052
are next to the harbor walk on each of those

999
01:09:50,132 --> 01:09:52,932
locations. So you could widen up the harbor walk by

1000
01:09:53,092 --> 01:09:55,892
at least probably eight feet. I think each space is

1001
01:09:55,972 --> 01:09:59,012
nine feet in the spots. And getting the extra eight

1002
01:09:59,092 --> 01:10:01,092
feet would give you room for benches and some minor

1003
01:10:01,172 --> 01:10:04,692
infrastructure and just make it a much more comfortable adventure.

1004
01:10:04,612 --> 01:10:07,572
And we'd still save parking. And because has this has

1005
01:10:07,492 --> 01:10:11,092
already been brought up, uh, along Market Street between Harbor

1006
01:10:11,652 --> 01:10:16,101
and. Pacific by putting in 90 degree parking there along

1007
01:10:16,341 --> 01:10:21,861
one side as has been done down north of Beach

1008
01:10:21,861 --> 01:10:28,280
Street in front of the old, um, GNNs. That would

1009
01:10:28,280 --> 01:10:32,120
add plus or minus 30 spaces so that maybe it's

1010
01:10:32,120 --> 01:10:34,440
10 spaces. We lose on the ambarcuter itself with gain.

1011
01:10:35,350 --> 01:10:39,173
An extra 20 by adding the 30 up top. And

1012
01:10:39,493 --> 01:10:41,893
my comments to you in my letter were specifically about

1013
01:10:42,933 --> 01:10:45,653
a park starting at the Centennial staircase and going down

1014
01:10:46,933 --> 01:10:50,533
and including the space, which is the libertine property. And

1015
01:10:50,693 --> 01:10:52,453
the more loss of the libertine properties such that you'd

1016
01:10:53,093 --> 01:10:55,173
have a 90 degree line of sight straight down to

1017
01:10:55,333 --> 01:10:58,533
the bay from moral B boulevard. So it's when a

1018
01:10:58,533 --> 01:11:00,693
tourist come from the, as you're a tourist, you're coming

1019
01:11:00,773 --> 01:11:02,373
into town to get off at more people of our

1020
01:11:02,533 --> 01:11:04,613
due drop down the below or you get to an

1021
01:11:04,613 --> 01:11:06,453
orchestre and you go, what do I do? And so

1022
01:11:07,653 --> 01:11:09,173
if there was good parking right there and you could

1023
01:11:09,253 --> 01:11:12,133
see the water, you'd know to park there. That's the

1024
01:11:12,133 --> 01:11:12,453
end of my comments.

1025
01:11:38,836 --> 01:11:40,996
Oh good. You want to follow up on Eric. So

1026
01:11:40,996 --> 01:11:44,196
I really think, uh, his suggestion on opening up, uh,

1027
01:11:44,676 --> 01:11:47,876
where the liberty is now for a view slide into

1028
01:11:48,036 --> 01:11:53,316
the bay is excellent. It's something that's lacking has been

1029
01:11:53,316 --> 01:11:56,356
removed over the years on the embarkadero where they were

1030
01:11:56,436 --> 01:12:00,516
all one store, westside, excuse me. Uh, about that. But

1031
01:12:00,596 --> 01:12:04,836
I think dropping the other thing that the city owned

1032
01:12:04,916 --> 01:12:07,476
the land, I think like from Coleman Park all the

1033
01:12:07,396 --> 01:12:10,356
way up to the wastewater treatment plant that they under

1034
01:12:10,436 --> 01:12:12,516
that maybe a hundred wide.

1035
01:12:25,381 --> 01:12:28,981
And, uh, that area, if you wanted more, and you

1036
01:12:28,981 --> 01:12:34,341
might consider that whole wretch, uh, I believe it could

1037
01:12:34,421 --> 01:12:37,141
serve any more out of sight. I don't know. You

1038
01:12:37,141 --> 01:12:44,821
go further than you. It's like, you know, boats. And

1039
01:12:44,981 --> 01:12:48,821
so visually all you see is really a massive parking

1040
01:12:48,981 --> 01:12:51,941
lot. If it could be pushed a little further north

1041
01:12:52,901 --> 01:12:56,741
and looked into the property that the zones just north

1042
01:12:56,901 --> 01:13:00,101
of where you make the turn out from there north,

1043
01:13:00,021 --> 01:13:02,581
uh, maybe that would solve some of the parking issues.

1044
01:13:02,581 --> 01:13:02,981
So thank you.

1045
01:13:29,652 --> 01:13:32,452
All right. Myers speaking of citizen here. I am super

1046
01:13:32,452 --> 01:13:35,172
excited to see these end plazas or whatever the term

1047
01:13:35,252 --> 01:13:37,892
is. I've looked at those. I actually used one this

1048
01:13:37,972 --> 01:13:40,772
winter for a movie night by the libertine. I have

1049
01:13:40,772 --> 01:13:42,612
as many people as I thought. So I think success

1050
01:13:42,932 --> 01:13:44,532
and I'm excited to see at least have.

1051
01:14:07,755 --> 01:14:09,675
Um, first of all, I want to say that I

1052
01:14:09,595 --> 01:14:14,075
think corresponds and I agree with it all whole heart,

1053
01:14:13,995 --> 01:14:17,435
including the thing about lighting in Guerrero for. Um, I

1054
01:14:17,515 --> 01:14:19,995
remember before she passed away and she loved to come

1055
01:14:20,075 --> 01:14:25,755
down to the embarkadero. And to get, uh, handicap spaces,

1056
01:14:25,675 --> 01:14:28,795
just not room. And the street ends were usually the

1057
01:14:28,875 --> 01:14:31,035
ones where we could find a place where she could

1058
01:14:31,115 --> 01:14:35,515
actually access enough walkway to get around. And I think

1059
01:14:35,675 --> 01:14:38,875
that's something we have to remember. Our residents are not

1060
01:14:39,275 --> 01:14:42,715
all spring chickens. And to be able to have access

1061
01:14:43,275 --> 01:14:46,075
easily to the stores. I mean, if you want locals

1062
01:14:46,075 --> 01:14:47,755
to be there, you have to make sure that they

1063
01:14:47,835 --> 01:14:51,195
can do it comfortably. And the street ends do pride

1064
01:14:51,195 --> 01:14:54,715
that. Um, do we need more little parks there? No,

1065
01:14:54,635 --> 01:14:57,195
we don't. We have so many parks scenarios around there

1066
01:14:57,915 --> 01:15:00,955
that we really don't need more, but we do need

1067
01:15:01,275 --> 01:15:03,995
parking and we need a convenient for not only our

1068
01:15:04,235 --> 01:15:07,035
tourists who don't know where to go to get places.

1069
01:15:06,955 --> 01:15:09,835
But for our residents who do know and want the

1070
01:15:09,835 --> 01:15:12,235
convenience of being able to get their evil. So thank

1071
01:15:12,235 --> 01:15:12,395
you.

1072
01:15:24,738 --> 01:15:27,618
Hi, I'm Margaret Carmen. And I'm glad that we have

1073
01:15:28,658 --> 01:15:36,993
an advisory board that we can do. And all that

1074
01:15:36,993 --> 01:15:39,313
we have. And I just want to remind you guys

1075
01:15:39,873 --> 01:15:43,713
there was something that was reports that said, the board,

1076
01:15:43,633 --> 01:15:45,953
you get staff report, which is great, but you don't

1077
01:15:46,113 --> 01:15:49,313
have to do everything. And I hope that you'll live

1078
01:15:49,313 --> 01:15:52,193
to us. And I'm going to, um, Mr., I'm going

1079
01:15:52,113 --> 01:15:56,673
to, I'm going to piggyback on what you said. There's

1080
01:15:56,593 --> 01:15:58,673
send an email in, but it didn't get posted because

1081
01:15:58,673 --> 01:16:01,953
I'm really computer ignorant. Ms. Winholtz had to put this

1082
01:16:02,113 --> 01:16:04,113
email together because I don't know how to do links

1083
01:16:05,073 --> 01:16:07,233
and add the emails and all that. But I really

1084
01:16:07,633 --> 01:16:11,873
want everybody in the city that has anything to do

1085
01:16:11,793 --> 01:16:14,993
with making decisions to please go on this website. It's

1086
01:16:15,073 --> 01:16:19,393
called darkSky. org. It's actually all over the world. It's

1087
01:16:19,393 --> 01:16:21,633
a, it's an amazing. I couldn't even believe all the

1088
01:16:21,633 --> 01:16:24,433
resources they had. But I use some of those links.

1089
01:17:02,735 --> 01:17:07,455
But in the, um, background report, there's two places ahead

1090
01:17:07,615 --> 01:17:11,055
of that. And this was 11 years of 2015. UC

1091
01:17:11,135 --> 01:17:15,535
Davis had law and spent 1. 2 million dollars. This

1092
01:17:15,535 --> 01:17:20,495
LED blue city so much. And the public actually made

1093
01:17:20,815 --> 01:17:25,215
chain 340, 000 dollars back in 2015. And we are

1094
01:17:25,295 --> 01:17:27,775
next, and I'm telling you, as they're waiting, not have

1095
01:17:28,975 --> 01:17:33,615
literally it calls for putting domes over the light because

1096
01:17:33,615 --> 01:17:37,135
it talks about this website that we have glare because

1097
01:17:37,135 --> 01:17:39,455
you've got such a wide area that you're trying to

1098
01:17:39,775 --> 01:17:43,855
illuminate with those LED lights. People see less. They have

1099
01:17:43,935 --> 01:17:47,135
more problems. And it was interesting. Even at your home,

1100
01:17:47,055 --> 01:17:50,655
it talked about, here's this cone. And the people break

1101
01:17:50,735 --> 01:17:53,215
in your, in your house shuts height over here in

1102
01:17:53,135 --> 01:17:55,615
the shadows, but that's not going to happen. You're not

1103
01:17:55,775 --> 01:17:59,215
going to have people hiding on the walkways. But, um,

1104
01:17:59,455 --> 01:18:02,015
there's a lot of data on this website about how

1105
01:18:02,895 --> 01:18:07,775
these high intensity lights have plants and animals. Life's sleep

1106
01:18:08,415 --> 01:18:12,335
and protection from predators. And so please, please, please look

1107
01:18:12,575 --> 01:18:13,295
at this website.

1108
01:18:24,680 --> 01:18:28,280
And changes before something gets put in. Down the embarcadero

1109
01:18:28,440 --> 01:18:31,960
now. And these joints are just shining in your face.

1110
01:18:31,880 --> 01:18:33,800
Those of us who are getting cataracts.

1111
01:18:43,386 --> 01:18:47,786
So, okay. That's enough about that. And like, because even

1112
01:18:47,866 --> 01:18:51,466
the word street in opportunity telling you it's only an

1113
01:18:51,466 --> 01:18:54,746
opportunity to make a change. Like what's wrong with like

1114
01:18:54,826 --> 01:18:55,226
Ms. Peter said.

1115
01:19:07,557 --> 01:19:10,517
Restaurants, those leaseholders are paying a plant that have mobilities

1116
01:19:10,757 --> 01:19:14,197
camp bartender their restaurants. They're going to lose income. And

1117
01:19:14,277 --> 01:19:17,557
we don't need more parks on the embarkado. It is

1118
01:19:17,797 --> 01:19:20,757
a park in itself just being near the ocean and

1119
01:19:20,917 --> 01:19:23,477
looking at the rocks. And I was told by someone

1120
01:19:23,637 --> 01:19:25,957
else, I haven't looked this up. So excuse me if

1121
01:19:26,037 --> 01:19:30,917
I'm wrong, that you, the board could ask the city

1122
01:19:31,157 --> 01:19:36,037
council to take this requirement out of the general plan.

1123
01:19:35,957 --> 01:19:37,637
So then we're not trying to figure out how we're

1124
01:19:37,557 --> 01:19:40,277
going to change something that we're, I mean, wherever you

1125
01:19:40,357 --> 01:19:43,477
go where the people, you got to look for cars.

1126
01:19:43,397 --> 01:19:45,797
That's just the nature of the world. And I really

1127
01:19:45,957 --> 01:19:48,997
hope that you don't decide to make a waste street

1128
01:19:49,237 --> 01:19:52,037
or block off the embarcadero. There's not enough room for

1129
01:19:52,117 --> 01:19:54,997
that. And you've got a big hill down the hill,

1130
01:19:54,917 --> 01:19:58,437
the third street promenade in Santa Monica. And Miss Nancy

1131
01:19:58,677 --> 01:20:04,117
Bass wrote you a really good, um, email about people

1132
01:20:04,357 --> 01:20:06,197
come to us because we're not the same as everybody

1133
01:20:06,437 --> 01:20:09,077
else. And we don't look like Disneyland. And we still

1134
01:20:09,077 --> 01:20:16,957
look like beautiful moral bay. And, um. Absurd to talk

1135
01:20:16,957 --> 01:20:20,317
about bottles on the embark, Darrell. There's not enough room.

1136
01:20:20,237 --> 01:20:23,357
I think you walk on the embarcadera or park and

1137
01:20:23,277 --> 01:20:24,237
then walk. Thank you.

1138
01:20:34,146 --> 01:20:42,561
Any of them, there we go. I had two handouts

1139
01:20:42,561 --> 01:20:46,442
there. Thank you. Uh, good afternoon. Uh, my name is

1140
01:20:46,602 --> 01:20:49,242
Ray Ladd. I'm a moral bay resident. We retired from

1141
01:20:50,842 --> 01:20:53,722
Dean's office at Cal Poly's College of Architecture and Environmental

1142
01:20:53,802 --> 01:20:57,402
Design. Uh, I've attended a few community meetings here in

1143
01:20:57,482 --> 01:21:00,202
Maurel Bay. And one of them, or at least at

1144
01:21:00,202 --> 01:21:01,722
one of them I noticed that, uh, one of the

1145
01:21:01,962 --> 01:21:05,882
goals was to generate revenue for the city for improved

1146
01:21:06,042 --> 01:21:10,405
services. And, uh, also I know from reading the paper

1147
01:21:10,725 --> 01:21:13,125
and such that one, there was a kind of a

1148
01:21:13,525 --> 01:21:17,045
question about remove three stacks or keep them for preservation

1149
01:21:17,365 --> 01:21:20,885
purposes. And so the idea I'd like to propose and

1150
01:21:20,885 --> 01:21:23,525
that I've proposed three years ago city in an email

1151
01:21:24,405 --> 01:21:27,925
would be to preserve one of the power plant smokestacks.

1152
01:21:28,924 --> 01:21:33,929
As a moral bay lighthouse. And the goal there would

1153
01:21:33,929 --> 01:21:36,969
be to create long - term tourism generated jobs and

1154
01:21:37,049 --> 01:21:40,169
revenue for the city. And that would be via admission

1155
01:21:40,329 --> 01:21:45,209
fees to the lighthouse, uh, restaurant and hotel occupancy gas

1156
01:21:45,289 --> 01:21:49,529
station market and, you know, retail sales taxes. And the

1157
01:21:49,529 --> 01:21:56,089
idea for this nautically orientated non - navigational lighthouse could

1158
01:21:56,249 --> 01:21:59,449
satisfy both sets of residents, you know, some that want

1159
01:21:59,609 --> 01:22:01,529
them all removed and some don't want them at all.

1160
01:22:01,449 --> 01:22:04,249
So one would be kept. And I understand the city

1161
01:22:04,489 --> 01:22:08,889
doesn't own the property. And there are some constraints on

1162
01:22:08,969 --> 01:22:12,569
the site, of course. And, uh, with that in mind,

1163
01:22:12,489 --> 01:22:15,609
and in light of the proposal for the battery plant

1164
01:22:16,329 --> 01:22:20,089
withdrawn by Vistra, I should say, uh, you know, this

1165
01:22:20,409 --> 01:22:24,169
may be open to an alternative redevelopment proposal for the

1166
01:22:24,409 --> 01:22:27,849
site. And, uh, that's why I thought I would submit

1167
01:22:28,089 --> 01:22:30,969
this idea again that, you know, in light of the

1168
01:22:31,369 --> 01:22:34,969
battery plant being eliminated, then maybe this idea might have

1169
01:22:35,129 --> 01:22:37,849
a little bit more merit to it. Uh, I'm hoping

1170
01:22:38,329 --> 01:22:39,769
moral by his long - term student include the idea

1171
01:22:40,089 --> 01:22:43,769
of a moral bay lighthouse. And some points about it,

1172
01:22:43,689 --> 01:22:45,769
the tourists could write up the elevator to the top

1173
01:22:46,169 --> 01:22:50,969
to enjoy spectacular views and social media opportunities. Uh, the

1174
01:22:52,089 --> 01:22:55,209
non - navigational lighthouses in the world. And I've done

1175
01:22:55,289 --> 01:22:58,249
some research on it. Moral bays, if it were to

1176
01:22:58,249 --> 01:23:02,649
come to fruition would be the world's tallest of those.

1177
01:23:02,569 --> 01:23:05,689
And currently one of the stacks is 450 feet. Though

1178
01:23:05,689 --> 01:23:08,889
it would be appealing to, you know, families with kids,

1179
01:23:08,809 --> 01:23:11,449
uh, it could be also an iconic feature for the

1180
01:23:11,689 --> 01:23:18,729
city similar to Seattle's space needle, um, stratosphere, uh, viewing

1181
01:23:18,889 --> 01:23:20,569
tower in Las Vegas. And of course, something like the

1182
01:23:20,809 --> 01:23:23,129
Eiffel Tower as well that now has lights on it

1183
01:23:23,449 --> 01:23:26,569
and that sort of thing. Um, it also could of

1184
01:23:26,489 --> 01:23:30,649
course be paired very well ideally with a maritime museum.

1185
01:23:30,569 --> 01:23:34,169
That's right below it. Um, the CEO of the Bay

1186
01:23:34,329 --> 01:23:39,449
Area Engineering Firm called Overa and Company. Letter research led

1187
01:23:39,449 --> 01:23:44,009
some research showing it could cost 36 million dollars to

1188
01:23:44,089 --> 01:23:47,209
build one stack in today's dollars. And so we already

1189
01:23:47,369 --> 01:23:49,689
have that built. So that's kind of like the community

1190
01:23:50,089 --> 01:23:53,129
asset or perhaps a golden goose of sorts. Uh, I

1191
01:23:53,129 --> 01:23:57,209
read a local newspaper article that noted after an inspection

1192
01:23:57,369 --> 01:24:00,009
report. It's the, uh, one of the stacks could stand

1193
01:24:00,569 --> 01:24:09,116
for a hundred years. If it was capped. The cap

1194
01:24:09,276 --> 01:24:11,676
in this case might be the lighthouse itself. It would

1195
01:24:11,676 --> 01:24:15,276
be designed for capacity, of course, to pay for itself.

1196
01:24:15,196 --> 01:24:17,516
Uh, demolition of the stacks though is scheduled for the

1197
01:24:17,916 --> 01:24:21,756
close of 2027. It's probably all you all know. Vistra

1198
01:24:21,836 --> 01:24:25,036
may not be willing to reopen negotiations, but I feel

1199
01:24:25,196 --> 01:24:27,356
they might, if it meant they only had to demo

1200
01:24:27,596 --> 01:24:30,156
and remove only two of the three stacks. And there

1201
01:24:30,156 --> 01:24:33,516
would be sizable savings for them. And I feel though

1202
01:24:33,516 --> 01:24:36,236
that that's one of the biggest obstacles to the ideas

1203
01:24:36,316 --> 01:24:39,196
that the current policy is that all three stacks are

1204
01:24:39,516 --> 01:24:44,396
removed. I feel the idea needs a champion, someone who,

1205
01:24:44,316 --> 01:24:47,116
you know, would support a feasibility study to see if

1206
01:24:47,596 --> 01:24:51,436
it's valid as a revenue concept. And perhaps the architectural

1207
01:24:52,396 --> 01:24:56,156
preservation grant available that off, you know, with a state.

1208
01:24:56,076 --> 01:24:58,956
And if it's deemed self - supporting and beneficial, I

1209
01:24:59,116 --> 01:25:02,156
feel there would be a need at that point to

1210
01:25:02,156 --> 01:25:07,516
partnership with a developer concessionnaire with a successful track record

1211
01:25:08,636 --> 01:25:13,036
of creating a visitor serving destination for May. And in

1212
01:25:13,116 --> 01:25:15,196
closing, I know this is a lot to consider. So

1213
01:25:15,596 --> 01:25:19,436
I'd like to, um, email with some research links to

1214
01:25:19,756 --> 01:25:23,356
your advisory committee. And, uh, I just feel beneficial to

1215
01:25:23,356 --> 01:25:26,876
the city and services, you know, for residents and the

1216
01:25:26,956 --> 01:25:32,236
business owners to be attracting, uh, tourist - oriented type

1217
01:25:32,316 --> 01:25:36,316
of attraction that I know we're not a real industrialized

1218
01:25:36,396 --> 01:25:38,716
city and that this maybe would fit because it has

1219
01:25:38,956 --> 01:25:41,349
an article fame. So that would be it. Thank you.

1220
01:25:48,339 --> 01:25:52,186
Any other public comment from the room. Being none, do

1221
01:25:52,186 --> 01:25:59,096
we have anybody in the online queue. Yes, the one

1222
01:25:59,336 --> 01:26:08,864
hand raised under the name Judy Lynn. Peace proceed. Sorry,

1223
01:26:08,784 --> 01:26:16,737
I'm here. Commissioners. Your work you're doing on this and

1224
01:26:16,737 --> 01:26:19,297
the opportunity to speak a little bit longer. I appreciate

1225
01:26:19,537 --> 01:26:26,216
that. As most of my comments refer to public input.

1226
01:26:28,655 --> 01:26:36,131
And I read something alarming. In the report. That I'll

1227
01:26:36,291 --> 01:26:38,691
quote what it said city staff is working with the

1228
01:26:39,011 --> 01:26:43,891
California coastal commission to create framework for a moral rock

1229
01:26:43,971 --> 01:26:49,091
visitor access enhancement plan to address public safety and maintenance

1230
01:26:49,331 --> 01:26:54,451
concerns. The aim is to identify opportunities for improvements to

1231
01:26:54,771 --> 01:26:59,331
traffic management, public services, and parking infrastructure. It's on page

1232
01:26:59,731 --> 01:27:06,302
77. So I'm asking city staff and the consultants that

1233
01:27:07,582 --> 01:27:10,462
before they do anything to remember that it is not

1234
01:27:11,022 --> 01:27:14,464
okay to change our way of life. Without the majority

1235
01:27:14,544 --> 01:27:20,799
of residents permission. This is why the rock redesign needs.

1236
01:27:22,665 --> 01:27:29,012
Its own workshop and not a sticky board. Community input

1237
01:27:29,412 --> 01:27:33,814
be the coastal commission is essential. The community is against

1238
01:27:34,534 --> 01:27:36,934
city staff assuming that they know what's best for the

1239
01:27:37,254 --> 01:27:42,068
redesign of our moral rock parking area. You are wasting

1240
01:27:42,148 --> 01:27:45,188
money by having city staff spend time on this before

1241
01:27:45,508 --> 01:27:51,597
the community gives input. We want to continue our history

1242
01:27:51,677 --> 01:27:55,037
of accessing and serve by driving right up to the

1243
01:27:55,117 --> 01:27:59,424
water's edge. Mothers must be able to drive their kids

1244
01:27:59,744 --> 01:28:04,627
close to the rock and south rock beaches. Surfers must

1245
01:28:04,627 --> 01:28:06,947
be able to park and launch from the parking area.

1246
01:28:08,295 --> 01:28:11,335
The elderly and disabled must be able to park at

1247
01:28:11,335 --> 01:28:15,335
the water's edge to enjoy the water, surf, and activities

1248
01:28:15,655 --> 01:28:19,731
happening on the beach and in the water. So many

1249
01:28:20,371 --> 01:28:22,531
of Moro Bay and you don't understand the history of

1250
01:28:22,931 --> 01:28:27,615
our way of life. Pavement is not natural. What exists

1251
01:28:27,935 --> 01:28:31,295
is in the past our public works department was able

1252
01:28:31,295 --> 01:28:35,161
to maintain the parking lot. They worked with the community

1253
01:28:35,321 --> 01:28:39,561
members to have dirt dropped off just after a rain.

1254
01:28:41,081 --> 01:28:46,375
It was organized timely. Efficient and happened on a regular

1255
01:28:46,615 --> 01:28:53,594
basis. For traffic flow, you can utilize the area lanes.

1256
01:28:53,594 --> 01:28:57,354
I'm sorry, the extra lanes on the embarcadero between Coleman

1257
01:28:57,514 --> 01:29:02,785
Beach. And work on in between Coleman and Beach Street

1258
01:29:03,105 --> 01:29:05,985
and work on an additional exit point through the power

1259
01:29:06,065 --> 01:29:12,318
plant property. Not seeking community input is how we lost

1260
01:29:12,558 --> 01:29:15,758
our ability to own the 100 acre power plant property

1261
01:29:16,558 --> 01:29:20,638
and came dangerously close to having a 600 megawatt lithium

1262
01:29:20,878 --> 01:29:26,579
balm on our waterfront. Please listen to our community. We

1263
01:29:26,819 --> 01:29:31,299
thank you for the workshops, but at the workshops, we

1264
01:29:31,379 --> 01:29:34,179
don't have an opportunity to speak. So I would like

1265
01:29:34,419 --> 01:29:39,539
to encourage you in an effort to most effectively glean

1266
01:29:39,539 --> 01:29:48,627
from the community. Please. Have an open mic. Workshop.

1267
01:29:51,326 --> 01:29:54,286
And there's just so much going on the waterfront. It's

1268
01:29:54,366 --> 01:29:57,326
such a big area that it would best serve everybody

1269
01:29:58,366 --> 01:30:02,446
if you divided it into at least three sections. And

1270
01:30:02,526 --> 01:30:07,326
so possibly your second workshop that's coming up, you could

1271
01:30:07,646 --> 01:30:12,108
focus on the rock and colombeach. And offer an open

1272
01:30:12,508 --> 01:30:15,468
mic where everybody got to come up and say what

1273
01:30:15,468 --> 01:30:19,068
they wanted to say about the rock and Coleman Beach.

1274
01:30:18,988 --> 01:30:21,868
And it's recorded and it's offered on Zoom so that

1275
01:30:21,868 --> 01:30:25,228
people who can't physically come in can offer and put

1276
01:30:25,308 --> 01:30:30,579
on Zoom. And then and then of course your other

1277
01:30:30,659 --> 01:30:34,148
areas would be a couple other workshops. And I know

1278
01:30:34,308 --> 01:30:36,948
this is time consuming for you and it's not how

1279
01:30:37,348 --> 01:30:39,748
it's all planned out by the consultants, but it's what

1280
01:30:39,828 --> 01:30:43,748
we want. We want my open mic time. And I'm

1281
01:30:43,988 --> 01:30:47,828
sorry if that bores you or bugs you are infringes

1282
01:30:47,908 --> 01:30:50,148
on what you need to get done, but it's our

1283
01:30:50,308 --> 01:30:55,499
community. And we want an opportunity to speak. And then

1284
01:30:55,899 --> 01:30:59,339
so, um, this question was asked before, but I don't

1285
01:30:59,579 --> 01:31:03,579
think an answer was given. Why does the waterfront boundary

1286
01:31:03,819 --> 01:31:08,219
map exclude part of the parking closest to the rock

1287
01:31:08,699 --> 01:31:13,399
near the lifeguard station. And then as far as parking

1288
01:31:13,959 --> 01:31:22,198
versus plazas, we need the parking spots. And I'm just

1289
01:31:22,518 --> 01:31:27,721
these wrap up. Five minutes is up. Five minutes. Yep.

1290
01:31:34,765 --> 01:31:38,593
Kind of don't think so, but okay. Thank you everybody.

1291
01:31:43,507 --> 01:31:48,845
Any other members or people in the online queue. There

1292
01:31:48,845 --> 01:31:50,925
are no more rates. Oh, I'm sorry. Right as I

1293
01:31:50,845 --> 01:31:54,125
said that one more hand came Shawnee Briggs. Go ahead.

1294
01:31:54,125 --> 01:32:01,604
Thank you. Sorry. I was muted. Uh, thank you for

1295
01:32:01,764 --> 01:32:05,764
the opportunity to speak. Um, I'm maybe coming late to

1296
01:32:05,844 --> 01:32:09,284
the game, but I'm, I'm here representing local indigenous voice

1297
01:32:09,524 --> 01:32:15,224
connected to this region. And, um, I just want to

1298
01:32:15,304 --> 01:32:17,704
say that this master plan will shape more obey for

1299
01:32:17,864 --> 01:32:24,367
30 years. And it matters who's left out. I'm not

1300
01:32:24,527 --> 01:32:26,847
sure if the selenium people were invited to this table

1301
01:32:27,967 --> 01:32:33,167
or teach you Yachtyhini were invited. But the indigenous herd.

1302
01:32:34,238 --> 01:32:37,118
And, um, I've had the opportunity to work and be

1303
01:32:37,358 --> 01:32:42,594
represented through the maritime museum. Very on that. And I

1304
01:32:42,514 --> 01:32:47,339
just wanted to kind of. Say thank you for this

1305
01:32:47,579 --> 01:32:50,539
planning. And I hoped I don't know invited or not.

1306
01:32:50,539 --> 01:32:55,304
I've never heard of it. And we have limited staffing

1307
01:32:55,544 --> 01:32:57,784
and capacity and it's hard to do these kind of

1308
01:32:58,104 --> 01:33:03,468
public things. Pretty good stake in the game. And most

1309
01:33:03,468 --> 01:33:06,908
importantly, I'd like to see that, um, history and tender

1310
01:33:06,988 --> 01:33:16,795
ecosystems are featured. In this project. That's all. Thank

1311
01:33:16,795 --> 01:33:22,000
you. Anybody else in the online queue. There are no

1312
01:33:22,000 --> 01:33:27,403
more raised hands in the queue. Thank you. We'll close

1313
01:33:27,403 --> 01:33:29,243
the public comment for now and bring it back forward

1314
01:33:29,323 --> 01:33:32,812
to the action. Um, let's break this down by the

1315
01:33:32,972 --> 01:33:38,175
individual issue areas that the director has provided. Mr. Chair,

1316
01:33:38,175 --> 01:33:40,655
the appropriate time, I'd like to make to the public

1317
01:33:40,895 --> 01:33:45,429
comments. Sure. So if I may do that now. So

1318
01:33:45,909 --> 01:33:52,949
in regards to the staff working on a paid parking

1319
01:33:53,029 --> 01:33:56,949
at the rock program, that is, that is listed in

1320
01:33:56,949 --> 01:34:02,309
the current upcoming waterfront initiatives and the speaker accurately read

1321
01:34:02,389 --> 01:34:04,789
that off from, from a list. I just want to

1322
01:34:04,949 --> 01:34:10,309
clarify, however, that is, uh, an initiative that started for

1323
01:34:10,629 --> 01:34:13,589
a short while at the beginning of last year. There

1324
01:34:13,589 --> 01:34:15,909
was a staff working group looking at what that might

1325
01:34:16,389 --> 01:34:20,389
look like. However, we're not currently working on that. Um,

1326
01:34:20,709 --> 01:34:24,549
we put that effort on pause to have that topic

1327
01:34:25,429 --> 01:34:27,909
vetted and discussed with the WAMPAC and the community through

1328
01:34:27,989 --> 01:34:30,789
this waterfront master plan update process, which of course is

1329
01:34:30,949 --> 01:34:34,549
a very, uh, open and public process. Um, also any

1330
01:34:34,629 --> 01:34:40,183
proposal. To manage access at moral rock would require coastal

1331
01:34:40,263 --> 01:34:42,823
development permit from the coastal commission, which would have a

1332
01:34:43,063 --> 01:34:45,943
very involved public process as well. So nothing that's going

1333
01:34:45,943 --> 01:34:49,863
to happen in that regard without significant public involvement from

1334
01:34:50,183 --> 01:34:56,037
WAMPAC and the community. And ultimately coastal commission. Um, as

1335
01:34:56,037 --> 01:34:59,317
far as the workshop format, I just want to, I

1336
01:34:59,237 --> 01:35:01,157
think many of the people in this room were at

1337
01:35:01,157 --> 01:35:03,717
the first community workshop. And I stood at the front

1338
01:35:03,797 --> 01:35:08,037
of the room with the mic 30 minutes urging community

1339
01:35:08,037 --> 01:35:10,837
members to take the mic and speak up so we

1340
01:35:10,837 --> 01:35:13,637
could take notes and hear their comments and make sure,

1341
01:35:13,557 --> 01:35:16,437
um, those are, uh, recorded and carried forward. I'm in

1342
01:35:16,437 --> 01:35:19,797
the background report. So that did happen. That will continue

1343
01:35:19,797 --> 01:35:24,037
to happen at upcoming workshops. As far as the map

1344
01:35:24,917 --> 01:35:27,237
being updated. So yes, we heard from a speaker at

1345
01:35:27,477 --> 01:35:33,317
the last WAMPAC meeting. And we have updated the map.

1346
01:35:33,237 --> 01:35:35,157
We are in the process. I've given a sense to

1347
01:35:35,397 --> 01:35:37,477
Amy to update the map to include the entire moral

1348
01:35:37,557 --> 01:35:40,277
rock parking lot. So that was an oversight or fixing

1349
01:35:40,277 --> 01:35:45,148
that. And as far as, um, outreach to the, uh,

1350
01:35:45,388 --> 01:35:50,840
Native American groups. So this is a general plan amendment,

1351
01:35:50,760 --> 01:35:55,080
which under state law, SB 18, we are required to

1352
01:35:55,240 --> 01:35:59,880
do formal consultation with all the Native American tribes with

1353
01:35:59,960 --> 01:36:02,280
the interest in the area. We are going to initiate

1354
01:36:02,360 --> 01:36:06,600
that once we have a draft plan. So we have

1355
01:36:06,600 --> 01:36:09,560
an actual plan for them to, um, respond to you

1356
01:36:09,800 --> 01:36:13,000
and comment on as we consult with Native American groups.

1357
01:36:12,920 --> 01:36:15,080
And we will make sure also that all the Native

1358
01:36:15,160 --> 01:36:17,720
American groups, um, that we reach out to them that

1359
01:36:17,800 --> 01:36:19,640
they are on our interested parties list so they can

1360
01:36:19,640 --> 01:36:23,320
participate in a WAMPAC meetings and community workshops throughout the

1361
01:36:23,880 --> 01:36:28,577
entire process. So those are my responses. Thank you. Thank

1362
01:36:28,577 --> 01:36:34,504
you, Director. So we'll move on to the committee's discussion

1363
01:36:34,824 --> 01:36:39,108
and action. Um, let's start with action item number one.

1364
01:36:39,028 --> 01:36:41,348
We're asked to receive and file this report and provide

1365
01:36:41,428 --> 01:36:47,765
our individual comments on it. I think the receiving file

1366
01:36:48,085 --> 01:36:52,245
is an administrative thing. Do show your approval. Um, so

1367
01:36:52,485 --> 01:36:56,245
let's start with, uh, also we make a motion receive

1368
01:36:56,405 --> 01:37:02,860
and file. Earlier. We were asked to just share questions

1369
01:37:03,260 --> 01:37:06,140
we had on the background report. At what point would

1370
01:37:06,220 --> 01:37:09,783
we be able to comment. On the background repair? That's

1371
01:37:09,863 --> 01:37:12,823
the next action in about two seconds. So I think

1372
01:37:12,983 --> 01:37:17,383
the action that the staff wants collectively is a receiving

1373
01:37:17,623 --> 01:37:20,023
file. We'll vote on that. And then move on to

1374
01:37:20,583 --> 01:37:24,817
our individual comments on the background report. Then move on

1375
01:37:24,897 --> 01:37:28,514
to our individual comments on the. Community workshop. And then

1376
01:37:28,514 --> 01:37:30,594
our individual comments on the street end. So we can

1377
01:37:30,594 --> 01:37:32,834
just get it together. But I think the only real

1378
01:37:33,074 --> 01:37:36,034
action we have as a committee is to vote on

1379
01:37:36,354 --> 01:37:39,794
receiving and filing the background port as presented so far.

1380
01:37:41,514 --> 01:37:47,873
Does that make sense? Um, so I know that we

1381
01:37:47,873 --> 01:37:50,353
probably won't have any time, but if, if there is

1382
01:37:50,433 --> 01:37:53,793
a chance to add any new questions or comments about

1383
01:37:54,273 --> 01:37:58,433
marketing and circulation, um, I'd like to add that if

1384
01:37:58,433 --> 01:38:00,833
we have time, um, but I will make the motion

1385
01:38:00,993 --> 01:38:06,673
to accept and receive and file the background. There are

1386
01:38:06,673 --> 01:38:10,656
a second to that. All those in favor. Aye. No

1387
01:38:10,816 --> 01:38:16,380
opposed. So on that item, now's the time to provide

1388
01:38:16,780 --> 01:38:21,370
individual comments on the background report itself. So I'm going

1389
01:38:21,290 --> 01:38:24,650
to start at my right. Mr. Chair, before we get

1390
01:38:24,650 --> 01:38:27,370
into that, we missed two second that the motion to

1391
01:38:27,450 --> 01:38:31,504
receive and file. Receive and file. Thank you. And so

1392
01:38:31,504 --> 01:38:34,544
the second list from you. Right. Thank you. File only.

1393
01:38:36,740 --> 01:38:42,806
Committee member Watowski, your comments on the background. Sure. Um,

1394
01:38:43,126 --> 01:38:47,286
all right. So my first comment was on page 69.

1395
01:38:47,206 --> 01:38:51,841
There's a call out that, or sorry. Uh, yeah, page

1396
01:38:52,081 --> 01:38:56,401
69. There was a flag that, um, many people think

1397
01:38:56,801 --> 01:38:59,121
the power plant site would be a logical location for

1398
01:38:59,601 --> 01:39:04,125
renewable energy facility. I don't think the wording of this

1399
01:39:04,525 --> 01:39:08,925
really reflects kind of how debated that opinion is within

1400
01:39:09,005 --> 01:39:13,645
our community. So, um, would recommend, um, kind of changing

1401
01:39:14,205 --> 01:39:19,805
that sentence. My next comment is on page 79 where

1402
01:39:19,885 --> 01:39:24,445
it touches upon, uh, the libertine property. That content I

1403
01:39:24,365 --> 01:39:27,165
think is now outdated. I would just recommend that we

1404
01:39:27,325 --> 01:39:34,209
update that content before the public workshop. Um, my next

1405
01:39:35,009 --> 01:39:39,409
comment is on page 89 where the parking inventory. I

1406
01:39:39,409 --> 01:39:42,689
don't think this table of parking inventory gives an accurate

1407
01:39:42,929 --> 01:39:46,689
representation of the parking that's available to residents or visitors

1408
01:39:47,329 --> 01:39:49,569
in more obey. I think a lot of our parking

1409
01:39:49,809 --> 01:39:56,369
has been set aside either, um, formally or infarmally for

1410
01:39:56,689 --> 01:40:01,089
leaseholders and hotels or has been kind of co -

1411
01:40:01,089 --> 01:40:08,769
opted informally by leaseholders, um, Jazz curbs being painted white

1412
01:40:11,409 --> 01:40:15,889
trucks full of bikes or scooters, et cetera, being parked

1413
01:40:16,209 --> 01:40:18,849
in spots in front of businesses. I think that we

1414
01:40:19,009 --> 01:40:23,009
should at least parking inventory that reflects the parking that

1415
01:40:23,169 --> 01:40:27,569
has formally been given to, um, lease holders so that

1416
01:40:27,569 --> 01:40:32,941
we understand what's actually available for residents or visitors. Um,

1417
01:40:33,581 --> 01:40:37,501
page 99, I think a measure D waterfront area may

1418
01:40:37,821 --> 01:40:41,741
be overstated both there and in several areas of the

1419
01:40:41,981 --> 01:40:48,420
report. Page 107, I would just like us to caveat.

1420
01:40:48,340 --> 01:40:52,180
There's information about a study that was done by reach.

1421
01:40:52,100 --> 01:40:55,300
And I think it's important context for folks to understand

1422
01:40:55,860 --> 01:41:01,060
that, um, reach is a nonprofit but receives lots of

1423
01:41:01,460 --> 01:41:07,460
private funding by private interests. And so I would, I

1424
01:41:07,380 --> 01:41:09,620
think we should represent that in the way that we

1425
01:41:10,180 --> 01:41:12,500
use their data in planning the future of our city.

1426
01:41:14,920 --> 01:41:19,160
And my last commenters on age 187 previously provided feedback

1427
01:41:20,120 --> 01:41:26,892
regarding the hotel, um. Assessment, uh, it still says that

1428
01:41:27,292 --> 01:41:30,732
Morabe has four upscales, which I don't believe, um, is

1429
01:41:30,972 --> 01:41:31,212
accurate.

1430
01:41:46,500 --> 01:41:50,020
Sorry, I'm trying to locate, but there is minor thing

1431
01:41:50,020 --> 01:41:53,780
that, um, on one of the mat to switch for

1432
01:41:53,780 --> 01:42:01,120
the triangle lot. And Lila Kaiser. So it is on

1433
01:42:01,760 --> 01:42:11,697
the page 54. And Lila Kaiser. So I

1434
01:42:11,697 --> 01:42:18,017
can note that later. Some updates on existing leases such

1435
01:42:18,097 --> 01:42:25,367
as Krill's dockside. It would be nice to get an

1436
01:42:25,367 --> 01:42:30,407
update on 801 because the RFP deadline has closed and

1437
01:42:30,487 --> 01:42:33,367
would like to know what's going on with, um, receiving

1438
01:42:33,927 --> 01:42:37,974
the applicant. Um. And then.

1439
01:42:50,109 --> 01:42:57,278
We'll dater. Um, it says that you guys have the

1440
01:42:57,278 --> 01:43:01,278
staff has a moral access enhancement. And so if you

1441
01:43:01,838 --> 01:43:07,038
create, um, the ability for other stakeholders within the community

1442
01:43:07,198 --> 01:43:10,398
to join that group, um, I would like to know

1443
01:43:10,478 --> 01:43:12,958
about, Oh, we can publicly now a great thing to

1444
01:43:12,958 --> 01:43:17,914
be a part of. And that's moments for the background.

1445
01:43:20,166 --> 01:43:26,013
Committee memory Costanzo. Okay. Mr. Donnelly. No more. Comment. Um.

1446
01:43:30,995 --> 01:43:34,595
I'd like to comment that some things have already, I'm

1447
01:43:34,595 --> 01:43:37,795
sorry. I like the comment on, uh, page 60, uh,

1448
01:43:38,275 --> 01:43:41,715
where it talks about a major D is that major

1449
01:43:41,795 --> 01:43:50,320
D was updated in. 2000 major decant be updated without

1450
01:43:50,480 --> 01:43:51,680
a vote of the people. So I'm not sure how

1451
01:43:52,160 --> 01:43:55,120
it got here. It takes a vote of the people

1452
01:43:55,120 --> 01:43:57,120
to do that. So I think that's incorrect. And then,

1453
01:43:57,120 --> 01:44:00,240
then another spot that, that Murray brought up talks about,

1454
01:44:00,160 --> 01:44:03,893
uh. Much of the Park and Errol being under Major

1455
01:44:03,973 --> 01:44:06,453
D. And it's really not. So those are my comments.

1456
01:44:06,453 --> 01:44:12,294
Thank you. I have a number of comments and I've

1457
01:44:12,294 --> 01:44:15,574
submitted written comments to the staff already. And I'll just

1458
01:44:15,574 --> 01:44:22,048
sort of run through the highlights. Um, on specific sections

1459
01:44:22,368 --> 01:44:25,488
under regional context, the regional context appears to be the

1460
01:44:25,568 --> 01:44:27,888
city of Moral Bay. I think at the very least,

1461
01:44:27,808 --> 01:44:30,448
we should be, we should be shown as a stero

1462
01:44:30,528 --> 01:44:36,528
bay, maybe even our context navigationally between Monterey and Santa

1463
01:44:36,528 --> 01:44:39,008
Barbara. And we serve as a safe harbor for, between

1464
01:44:39,088 --> 01:44:45,248
those areas. Um, so maybe just identifying between a stero

1465
01:44:45,328 --> 01:44:49,328
bay region between point Bouchon and Barrow, something like a

1466
01:44:49,328 --> 01:44:52,288
project area, Director Singwald talked about, including all of the

1467
01:44:52,448 --> 01:44:57,568
rock parking lot. We figure 1. 2 sort of inaccurately

1468
01:44:57,728 --> 01:45:01,446
shows Area 5 as the Vistra power plant site. It's

1469
01:45:01,526 --> 01:45:03,286
kind of the power plant site and then some area

1470
01:45:03,446 --> 01:45:09,219
around it. So maybe the lead in the word site.

1471
01:45:09,139 --> 01:45:13,219
But I think that for the unformed reader, it's all

1472
01:45:13,219 --> 01:45:14,259
of that when it isn't.

1473
01:45:25,892 --> 01:45:29,252
Under existing land, I thought there was a latination on

1474
01:45:30,932 --> 01:45:33,812
how much of those land uses and how much, in

1475
01:45:33,812 --> 01:45:36,052
terms of land area and building area, normally under an

1476
01:45:36,132 --> 01:45:39,252
existing land use, Gen, you'd have some reference that there's

1477
01:45:39,972 --> 01:45:45,590
in character air on this kind of land use. Uh,

1478
01:45:45,670 --> 01:45:46,870
but I didn't see it in there. In fact, I

1479
01:45:46,950 --> 01:45:49,030
had to go all the way into the market scan.

1480
01:45:48,950 --> 01:45:51,510
There's like a very small table that has our fuse

1481
01:45:51,510 --> 01:46:01,008
data on. I think that's key. Each one, how much

1482
01:46:01,008 --> 01:46:02,688
of it is vacant? Can we call each of his

1483
01:46:02,768 --> 01:46:07,008
parking? I think that I think land use summary. Had

1484
01:46:07,088 --> 01:46:09,888
categories that are used by slow cog that aren't recognizable

1485
01:46:09,968 --> 01:46:12,448
to me or by the general plan. I think it

1486
01:46:12,448 --> 01:46:17,008
refers to downtown slash village lands in moral base speak.

1487
01:46:16,928 --> 01:46:20,288
So, you know, translating your crosswalking that I think would

1488
01:46:20,368 --> 01:46:25,891
be very helpful. On the plan more obey.

1489
01:46:31,653 --> 01:46:34,453
Out, I think for the reader dish into the Plan

1490
01:46:34,613 --> 01:46:36,773
Moral Bay. Let's just set those forward. If those are

1491
01:46:36,773 --> 01:46:39,333
things that are driving the plan, say what they are

1492
01:46:40,613 --> 01:46:48,333
full text and everything. Uh, I also want, I think

1493
01:46:48,733 --> 01:46:51,293
the pussy for the build out suggests how much of

1494
01:46:52,573 --> 01:46:56,093
the master plan ought to be based on the build

1495
01:46:56,333 --> 01:46:59,373
out calculants that are in the general plan. And so

1496
01:46:59,613 --> 01:47:04,013
how much of whatever the general plan is proposing needs

1497
01:47:04,093 --> 01:47:08,267
to be accommodated in this geographic area. So add a

1498
01:47:08,267 --> 01:47:11,702
table for general plan land use. And I think it

1499
01:47:11,702 --> 01:47:15,382
was with, within these graphics that because there was a

1500
01:47:15,702 --> 01:47:18,822
mask put over one of the graphics, Lila carries her,

1501
01:47:18,742 --> 01:47:20,422
even though it was parking recreation was shown as a

1502
01:47:20,422 --> 01:47:23,222
different color as another piece. So it almost looked like

1503
01:47:23,302 --> 01:47:26,022
it wasn't that triangle around Morrow Creek. It was something

1504
01:47:26,182 --> 01:47:34,029
else. And for me, it was. Not usable. I'd also

1505
01:47:34,109 --> 01:47:36,909
suggest for the reader who wants to really focus in

1506
01:47:37,469 --> 01:47:39,949
that we call out all the street names. I think

1507
01:47:40,509 --> 01:47:42,935
Morvay Boulevard isn't all that aren't shown. I know that's

1508
01:47:43,095 --> 01:47:46,215
a small issue, but map reading is a really important

1509
01:47:46,295 --> 01:47:53,886
part of this plan. I agree with some of the

1510
01:47:53,886 --> 01:47:55,806
other comments about on measure D.

1511
01:48:04,095 --> 01:48:07,055
I think that, uh, it has its own issues in

1512
01:48:07,055 --> 01:48:12,575
terms of applicability, but the, uh, repeated reference in measure

1513
01:48:13,215 --> 01:48:17,855
and in the market scan that area depends on measure

1514
01:48:17,935 --> 01:48:21,855
D. In fact, we've taken the provisions of measure D

1515
01:48:22,335 --> 01:48:25,055
and they're in our zoning ordinance that won't be changed.

1516
01:48:27,673 --> 01:48:37,402
Beating. Under zoning, uh, list of

1517
01:48:37,642 --> 01:48:39,962
land use restrictions. What does that, when the reader looks

1518
01:48:40,042 --> 01:48:42,682
at for the visitors serving commercial, what does that mean?

1519
01:48:42,922 --> 01:48:46,260
What put in there? Under.

1520
01:48:53,984 --> 01:48:58,464
I was, uh, I agree with the, uh, it actually

1521
01:48:58,464 --> 01:49:01,344
states that the waterfront is within the state granted tidelands.

1522
01:49:01,264 --> 01:49:05,264
That's nowhere near. And so there ought to be in

1523
01:49:05,184 --> 01:49:07,664
the discussion of the Tidelands a real map, the map

1524
01:49:07,744 --> 01:49:11,824
that's promulgated by the state mission, uh, because in some

1525
01:49:11,904 --> 01:49:15,344
areas, the council has probably appropriately so that want to

1526
01:49:15,344 --> 01:49:18,453
apply those, those conditions. Uh, I think one of our

1527
01:49:18,773 --> 01:49:22,853
commenters talked about the land continuation of the embark around

1528
01:49:23,413 --> 01:49:27,596
tomorrow Creek. That's referred to as hard for fee lands

1529
01:49:27,596 --> 01:49:31,411
or city feelands that were litigated 60 years ago. Let's

1530
01:49:31,491 --> 01:49:33,891
have everybody have understanding of what applies to what. Because

1531
01:49:33,971 --> 01:49:38,971
in the Tidelands, you can't do certain things. That you

1532
01:49:38,971 --> 01:49:40,571
can do other things. So we need to sort of

1533
01:49:40,651 --> 01:49:43,131
provide a list of kind of the can and can't

1534
01:49:43,291 --> 01:49:49,899
in the area. I think there needs also needs to

1535
01:49:49,899 --> 01:49:53,579
be a really good kind of how this land can

1536
01:49:53,659 --> 01:49:57,659
be. The current master plan has a really good summary

1537
01:49:57,739 --> 01:50:06,079
of the land in the 60s and 70s. Uh, it

1538
01:50:06,159 --> 01:50:08,479
really helped me as initial reader when I first approached

1539
01:50:08,559 --> 01:50:10,479
this much understanding. Oh, now I know what's going on.

1540
01:50:10,479 --> 01:50:12,799
Now I know Pitkin lease. Now I know why this

1541
01:50:12,959 --> 01:50:15,919
line is where it is. So you reintroducing that in

1542
01:50:16,159 --> 01:50:22,794
an act is really helpful. Statement on Measure D was

1543
01:50:22,874 --> 01:50:24,954
update. Quite frankly, I think when we have a C

1544
01:50:25,034 --> 01:50:30,187
statements like that in the background, it creates suspicion. About

1545
01:50:31,067 --> 01:50:32,987
what else is wrong in there. That's a pretty glaring

1546
01:50:33,147 --> 01:50:36,523
error. And it's something that. Should be.

1547
01:51:10,583 --> 01:51:13,143
Under landownership. Again, I think there's a lot more work

1548
01:51:13,223 --> 01:51:15,463
that needs to be done on there. Uh, there are

1549
01:51:15,543 --> 01:51:20,263
some, that relates to the tide lens, the original patent

1550
01:51:22,183 --> 01:51:26,983
for the Franklin Riley. Pace with PGN easements and fix

1551
01:51:27,143 --> 01:51:31,383
back a little bit. You've tried the front of Gafko

1552
01:51:32,023 --> 01:51:34,263
and away from the front door because that's the line

1553
01:51:34,503 --> 01:51:37,303
of the Tidelands. Divergence and goes into the water. So

1554
01:51:38,663 --> 01:51:40,983
for us understanding what you can do and what you

1555
01:51:40,903 --> 01:51:47,225
can't do in that geography is really important. Um, let's

1556
01:51:47,305 --> 01:51:47,385
see.

1557
01:52:02,773 --> 01:52:06,213
I thought it was in the downtown specific planet is

1558
01:52:06,213 --> 01:52:09,013
to take those regulations and guidelines move those into the

1559
01:52:09,093 --> 01:52:16,734
waterfront, the way we were talking. You don't have to

1560
01:52:16,814 --> 01:52:19,694
smart enough to remember why it's probably a practice item.

1561
01:52:33,226 --> 01:52:36,826
Um, in the transportation report, I actually thought that was

1562
01:52:37,786 --> 01:52:40,506
stated. I still have some requests. Is like beach harbor

1563
01:52:40,666 --> 01:52:41,226
and issues.

1564
01:52:52,720 --> 01:52:59,390
Again, I thought ways. You know, they're A24 in addition

1565
01:52:59,470 --> 01:53:02,510
to locking in the land use on the power plant.

1566
01:53:02,430 --> 01:53:07,391
Also the sort of talk about that. Uh, there's a

1567
01:53:07,471 --> 01:53:09,791
description on page 65 of that background report of having

1568
01:53:10,031 --> 01:53:15,816
massive potential for visitation. It's not very helpful to those

1569
01:53:15,976 --> 01:53:19,816
who are concerned about what we're proposing to read words

1570
01:53:19,896 --> 01:53:26,671
like massive without the, uh, the data. I think there

1571
01:53:26,671 --> 01:53:33,231
was a comment from Mr. Meyer about when the pedestrian

1572
01:53:33,311 --> 01:53:35,631
bike master plan. I think it was a 1971 plan.

1573
01:53:38,013 --> 01:53:42,493
Uh, that's missing. There's also our more recent local road

1574
01:53:42,573 --> 01:53:45,613
safety plan that actually has some things prescribed added in.

1575
01:53:50,100 --> 01:53:52,820
There's an inclusion of some work by Cal Poly students

1576
01:53:53,540 --> 01:53:55,540
that probably is very good, but I don't think it

1577
01:53:56,100 --> 01:54:00,039
has, it belongs in here. In my, my viewpoint, uh,

1578
01:54:00,519 --> 01:54:02,599
maybe this is just me, but the background sort of

1579
01:54:02,679 --> 01:54:05,159
the foundation, it anchor what we're going to talk about

1580
01:54:05,319 --> 01:54:14,800
now. That may be an interesting going up starting point

1581
01:54:15,440 --> 01:54:18,800
for another discussion, but it isn't a community, it isn't

1582
01:54:19,040 --> 01:54:21,840
a policy. Probably the same thing about the Central Coast

1583
01:54:22,080 --> 01:54:31,878
engineering sighting issue. Have to

1584
01:54:31,958 --> 01:54:35,915
disappoint. Is it even anointing? Could you do it. And

1585
01:54:36,075 --> 01:54:40,271
take exercise. I didn't have any comments on the stakeholder

1586
01:54:40,431 --> 01:54:42,271
focus groups or the stakeholder interviews.

1587
01:54:52,445 --> 01:54:59,011
So, uh, again, I, um. There are many things we

1588
01:54:59,091 --> 01:55:01,891
have to so that I think we're telling what is

1589
01:55:02,051 --> 01:55:05,651
the measure D, the tide lens, you know, those sorts

1590
01:55:05,731 --> 01:55:07,971
of reference. And so they, they understand the lay of

1591
01:55:07,971 --> 01:55:11,491
the land. And it's complicated stuff. And so, uh, I

1592
01:55:11,491 --> 01:55:15,171
don't think the ready to represent that and the other

1593
01:55:15,251 --> 01:55:23,857
items I talked about. So, um. Is there, Director Single,

1594
01:55:23,777 --> 01:55:26,337
are there any other comments that you wanted to ask

1595
01:55:26,577 --> 01:55:29,937
about the background portal? Yeah. Thanks for the opportunity. So.

1596
01:55:34,045 --> 01:55:38,045
Thank you for your very detailed comments on the background.

1597
01:55:37,965 --> 01:55:41,405
Like you said, Chair Peck, it is not only the,

1598
01:55:41,325 --> 01:55:44,285
you know, culmination of all of our church and outreach

1599
01:55:44,365 --> 01:55:46,765
over the past several months, but also it is the

1600
01:55:46,925 --> 01:55:49,005
foundation for the plan moving forward.

1601
01:55:59,712 --> 01:56:03,312
So with that important, that it's a hundred percent accurate.

1602
01:56:03,232 --> 01:56:04,672
I'll make sure that the plan is a hundred percent

1603
01:56:05,072 --> 01:56:09,232
accurate and that we address comment updated in communication.

1604
01:56:18,225 --> 01:56:21,745
Action item number two is on workshop more comments on

1605
01:56:21,985 --> 01:56:24,485
that we provided some of those under our. Comments on

1606
01:56:24,645 --> 01:56:27,765
the presentation. Are there any additional comments that anybody want

1607
01:56:27,765 --> 01:56:37,489
to make on the workshop. It's, uh, Mary. I just

1608
01:56:37,489 --> 01:56:40,129
have a comment that I don't need did a good

1609
01:56:40,129 --> 01:56:41,489
enough job marketing.

1610
01:57:01,862 --> 01:57:06,742
Drop. And I really think that we need posed owns

1611
01:57:06,742 --> 01:57:08,982
from, I would expect that as part of their contract

1612
01:57:09,862 --> 01:57:14,582
and that we implement that, um, for example, the previous

1613
01:57:14,742 --> 01:57:17,782
meetings, um, I think we can do a better job

1614
01:57:18,422 --> 01:57:20,822
such as posting it on the Morbec website, things like

1615
01:57:20,902 --> 01:57:24,102
that. So I would just ask the consultant to kind

1616
01:57:24,022 --> 01:57:26,822
of, you know, increase the focus there. Um, and then

1617
01:57:27,382 --> 01:57:31,222
additionally, it sounds like they're open to including an optional

1618
01:57:31,542 --> 01:57:36,182
demographic question as part of the next workshop. And I

1619
01:57:36,182 --> 01:57:40,902
would just ask the city to try to implement that.

1620
01:57:40,822 --> 01:57:43,542
Because I think we need to have a poll. Are

1621
01:57:43,622 --> 01:57:47,622
we reaching the DIFI non - white elderlys segments of

1622
01:57:47,622 --> 01:57:50,582
our community? And are we having success in here? All

1623
01:57:50,662 --> 01:57:50,822
those voices.

1624
01:58:31,533 --> 01:58:34,893
All right. Um, I did want to suggest possibly because

1625
01:58:34,973 --> 01:58:38,813
of listening recording booth. The message actually be tabbed and

1626
01:58:38,893 --> 01:58:42,253
summarized of information that I think is vital for, um,

1627
01:58:42,413 --> 01:58:45,613
people to be informed about is that beautiful amended all

1628
01:58:45,613 --> 01:58:49,613
of these items cost money. So require maintenance, um, funds

1629
01:58:49,693 --> 01:58:54,413
to go towards replace them after 20, 30 years, depending

1630
01:58:54,413 --> 01:58:57,213
on what it is. Um, so as far as some

1631
01:58:57,213 --> 01:59:00,093
of these workshops go, I know that we want to

1632
01:59:00,253 --> 01:59:03,613
say, say whatever you want, um, but I'd like to

1633
01:59:04,573 --> 01:59:11,773
draw attention. It is more viable and more likelymented. If

1634
01:59:12,173 --> 01:59:15,373
Zine is that we create either pays for itself or

1635
01:59:15,613 --> 01:59:20,173
funds the maintenance for its future, um, candios ideas, but

1636
01:59:20,493 --> 01:59:22,733
pay forum, they're never really going to happen. So if

1637
01:59:22,733 --> 01:59:25,933
we can, um, at least have some sort of try

1638
01:59:26,013 --> 01:59:29,453
and think of something that would either enhance revenue, um,

1639
01:59:30,173 --> 01:59:32,573
but still give us what we want.

1640
01:59:50,172 --> 01:59:51,852
No, not really. I think the comments that are remade

1641
01:59:52,012 --> 01:59:53,452
and that's what I would do. I thought that there

1642
01:59:53,612 --> 01:59:58,652
should have been a, those well attended. I think there,

1643
01:59:58,572 --> 02:00:00,012
you know, and, and I'm not a big fan of

1644
02:00:00,172 --> 02:00:07,851
the, uh. Sticky note. I don't know how you. And

1645
02:00:07,931 --> 02:00:10,971
there was like eight for like moral bay rock parking

1646
02:00:11,051 --> 02:00:14,011
lots. Like, what was that represent? It didn't, it doesn't,

1647
02:00:14,011 --> 02:00:16,971
it was just a, uh, you know, it was just

1648
02:00:17,051 --> 02:00:22,091
a suggestion. It didn't dig deep enough to get anything,

1649
02:00:22,011 --> 02:00:23,851
you know, anything to honor on that. I don't know.

1650
02:00:23,851 --> 02:00:26,651
So that was my comment. Thank you. Paul.

1651
02:00:40,194 --> 02:00:44,594
I just like speak at public workshop shops come here

1652
02:00:44,754 --> 02:00:47,154
in public comment about lighting. Is it right time to

1653
02:00:47,154 --> 02:00:48,914
say something about? I agree. I think they have to

1654
02:00:48,914 --> 02:00:53,154
be, it's real important. But there's been projects that have

1655
02:00:53,234 --> 02:00:55,794
eliminated lighting on the waterfront was there. It's gone. Uh,

1656
02:00:57,074 --> 02:01:01,234
Coast Guard station and Beach Street, 15 light standards and

1657
02:01:01,314 --> 02:01:02,754
five or six of them are not even lit. So

1658
02:01:02,994 --> 02:01:05,314
I think that they were properly lit. I don't think

1659
02:01:05,794 --> 02:01:08,514
they're intrusive and they've been there for many, many years.

1660
02:01:08,434 --> 02:01:11,794
Uh, and I think if we just maintenance, I think

1661
02:01:11,874 --> 02:01:15,234
it's PGNE is responsible for that. Uh, and just, uh,

1662
02:01:15,634 --> 02:01:18,034
did that lighting the Sarah? I think it's inviting on

1663
02:01:18,034 --> 02:01:22,114
the waterfront when we are at, when all the lights

1664
02:01:22,514 --> 02:01:25,234
are led up down there. Right now it's just because

1665
02:01:25,314 --> 02:01:27,794
like I said, five or six out of 15 or

1666
02:01:28,194 --> 02:01:37,893
90. So. I think my comment

1667
02:01:38,853 --> 02:01:41,093
is, uh, it would be useful to have a pin

1668
02:01:41,173 --> 02:01:44,773
map for whoever's commenting. It'd be useful to know. Are

1669
02:01:44,773 --> 02:01:46,613
we getting all of our comments from the beach track

1670
02:01:47,413 --> 02:01:50,773
or heights or North Morea Bay, just as a matter

1671
02:01:50,853 --> 02:01:54,773
of curiosity? Because blast things out on social media, but

1672
02:01:55,413 --> 02:01:58,933
meeting a small subgroup. And that might enforce just hearing

1673
02:01:59,173 --> 02:02:03,688
the same. And we're missing some. Maybe there's some area

1674
02:02:03,768 --> 02:02:06,488
around the school. Because there are areas of town that

1675
02:02:06,488 --> 02:02:09,128
are more family content. There's so many areas that are

1676
02:02:09,128 --> 02:02:10,248
more on vacation oriented.

1677
02:02:23,334 --> 02:02:25,174
And it would be also interesting to know, don't live

1678
02:02:25,254 --> 02:02:29,334
in town. When you talked about the dation, that's workshop.

1679
02:02:29,254 --> 02:02:38,838
But sometimes you'll get folks coming. Not

1680
02:02:40,758 --> 02:02:43,878
be nice to know that. So who are we reaching?

1681
02:02:43,798 --> 02:02:44,198
How are we doing it.

1682
02:03:11,466 --> 02:03:14,826
These things cost money. So maybe you give them presents

1683
02:03:14,906 --> 02:03:16,586
a dollar. I think a four of them, or they've

1684
02:03:16,666 --> 02:03:19,146
only got 10 of them and the city's money, uh,

1685
02:03:19,866 --> 02:03:23,866
otherwise. So be nice to sort of be what's in,

1686
02:03:23,786 --> 02:03:25,799
where are they willing to spend money on. To make

1687
02:03:25,799 --> 02:03:25,879
work.

1688
02:03:57,383 --> 02:03:59,463
Uh, anything else that you'd like to get from the

1689
02:03:59,463 --> 02:04:06,983
group, but demographine location. We built with Amy after, after

1690
02:04:06,983 --> 02:04:09,623
the compact, would like to see that. So we'll, we'll,

1691
02:04:09,543 --> 02:04:12,983
um, and we could always do more outreach. So we'll,

1692
02:04:12,903 --> 02:04:14,503
um, we'll start with going to take advantage. Thank you.

1693
02:04:18,921 --> 02:04:23,881
Our final item is designed and redesigning street ends in

1694
02:04:23,881 --> 02:04:28,441
the master plan. There are no specific proposals before us.

1695
02:04:28,521 --> 02:04:30,841
I think the idea is to just get some, I

1696
02:04:30,761 --> 02:04:33,401
guess what called programming information, issue areas that we need

1697
02:04:33,481 --> 02:04:38,337
to address. Design proposals we brought back at a later

1698
02:04:38,497 --> 02:04:40,897
date. So keep your comments at a high level and

1699
02:04:41,057 --> 02:04:44,017
not site specific as possible. And I'll start to my

1700
02:04:44,177 --> 02:04:47,164
left with. Many memory custo.

1701
02:04:54,350 --> 02:04:57,310
You know, that's a, then you can do with that.

1702
02:04:57,230 --> 02:04:59,070
I think it's, uh, it would be good to look

1703
02:04:59,150 --> 02:05:02,590
at that. But removing parking, I mean, that's the biggest

1704
02:05:02,750 --> 02:05:04,990
issue is having parking. I think there are some to

1705
02:05:04,990 --> 02:05:09,146
do. Not because of the harbor walk. That goes on

1706
02:05:09,626 --> 02:05:13,466
the other side of a lot of those. So, you

1707
02:05:13,386 --> 02:05:16,266
know, there's access there. So we're moving parking. I don't,

1708
02:05:16,266 --> 02:05:18,775
I don't see how that. S to how that would

1709
02:05:18,855 --> 02:05:21,975
help. Or is there a need for that? I mean,

1710
02:05:21,975 --> 02:05:23,975
do we need little parklets all the way down there?

1711
02:05:24,135 --> 02:05:25,415
I don't, I don't think there's be a need for

1712
02:05:25,415 --> 02:05:28,535
that. I don't know what the use would be and

1713
02:05:28,615 --> 02:05:32,375
how that would help the development of the, uh, embarcadero.

1714
02:05:51,466 --> 02:05:55,146
Ready to go eight coats of dependency. The census eventually

1715
02:05:55,226 --> 02:05:56,586
is going to have to go the coast of commission.

1716
02:05:56,506 --> 02:05:59,226
I have a say kickback. We put something that was

1717
02:05:59,386 --> 02:06:02,346
not a priority function. And maybe we should need, like

1718
02:06:02,346 --> 02:06:03,946
I said, I talked to the business down there and

1719
02:06:03,946 --> 02:06:06,266
they rely on parking being there. And if you eliminate

1720
02:06:06,346 --> 02:06:08,950
that, it's going to hurt them. So that's going to

1721
02:06:09,030 --> 02:06:19,029
consider. Even if

1722
02:06:19,029 --> 02:06:21,829
you just relocate it, I think you're making a mistake.

1723
02:06:26,881 --> 02:06:30,881
Um, I understand that we make them, but then there

1724
02:06:30,881 --> 02:06:32,561
becomes a thing of maintenance. If these are all little

1725
02:06:32,641 --> 02:06:38,641
parklets, uh, parklets and barely enough city staff take care

1726
02:06:38,721 --> 02:06:41,201
of the ones we have right now, especially during the

1727
02:06:41,281 --> 02:06:44,641
summertime. So it'll probably, if you have six or seven

1728
02:06:44,961 --> 02:06:47,441
on street ends, I believe you'll have to have a

1729
02:06:47,441 --> 02:06:51,651
staff member. Taking care of those alone. So I think

1730
02:06:51,891 --> 02:06:56,531
you have that issue too. But, but no, I'm always,

1731
02:06:56,451 --> 02:07:00,451
part important to every business, especially parking for older people

1732
02:07:00,691 --> 02:07:02,771
that, that like to pour, they're going to shop or

1733
02:07:02,931 --> 02:07:06,645
what they're going to eat. Uh, so I have a,

1734
02:07:06,805 --> 02:07:09,925
you know, the concept is to just relocate them someplace

1735
02:07:09,925 --> 02:07:13,605
else. I would, uh, especially on the end of the

1736
02:07:13,765 --> 02:07:15,205
water via, I think it'd be really tough on some

1737
02:07:15,205 --> 02:07:15,685
of those businesses.

1738
02:07:28,536 --> 02:07:31,896
Okay. So this is stake here to my heart. Um,

1739
02:07:32,216 --> 02:07:37,816
especially, um, being a representative of the Embarcadera Master leaseholders.

1740
02:07:37,736 --> 02:07:39,816
And I was hoping that maybe you can get up

1741
02:07:39,896 --> 02:07:44,296
page 243 of the agenda. So I can, um, speak

1742
02:07:44,376 --> 02:07:52,708
on, on that. So, um, before she gets that one,

1743
02:07:52,628 --> 02:07:57,428
um, one comment that somebody made is, uh, the libertine

1744
02:07:58,468 --> 02:08:03,988
being removed. I'm also on the harbor advisory board. And

1745
02:08:04,148 --> 02:08:09,268
I've had revenue for the harbor because our harbor is

1746
02:08:09,268 --> 02:08:12,468
the most awesome thing that we have. Um, it's healthy.

1747
02:08:12,388 --> 02:08:13,828
We want to keep it healthy. We want to keep

1748
02:08:13,908 --> 02:08:18,148
the infrastructure. Take care of vetment walls. Um, if we

1749
02:08:18,148 --> 02:08:24,628
keep removing, uh, properties that are revenue driving, funding the

1750
02:08:24,628 --> 02:08:28,388
harbor, um, we're going to be even more hard right

1751
02:08:28,468 --> 02:08:31,908
now. And it's not, and it's not great. Um, so,

1752
02:08:31,828 --> 02:08:35,108
um, I would say if you lose libertine, you decrease

1753
02:08:35,668 --> 02:08:43,048
the revenue that can go towards harbor infrastructure. And so

1754
02:08:43,768 --> 02:08:47,528
as far as the street ends right now, we have

1755
02:08:47,608 --> 02:08:51,768
a really limited amount of parking, especially in the area

1756
02:08:52,008 --> 02:08:57,448
where they utilize the street ends the most. My suggestion

1757
02:08:57,608 --> 02:09:01,848
would be to do, um, porous pavers with different colored

1758
02:09:02,088 --> 02:09:07,368
pavers in as the delineators between the parking spaces, um,

1759
02:09:07,848 --> 02:09:09,688
I had wanted to do a movie night for a

1760
02:09:09,688 --> 02:09:12,888
really long time, um, and working with Cal and the

1761
02:09:12,968 --> 02:09:15,848
friends of Morabe Harbor. We were able to put that.

1762
02:09:15,768 --> 02:09:19,128
But there is something weird about sitting in a, in

1763
02:09:19,368 --> 02:09:21,768
an oil filled parking while you're trying to enjoy with

1764
02:09:21,848 --> 02:09:24,488
your kids. So if we made it more of a

1765
02:09:24,728 --> 02:09:26,968
decorative thing, and I think that that would also be

1766
02:09:27,208 --> 02:09:32,728
something that could be affordable for the different leaseholders as

1767
02:09:32,888 --> 02:09:37,768
they develop to pay for that type of, of area,

1768
02:09:37,688 --> 02:09:39,768
because it's not going to be utilized all the time.

1769
02:09:39,688 --> 02:09:43,928
We could have festivals. We can have, um, different events,

1770
02:09:43,848 --> 02:09:46,968
street vendors, um, but in when the time when we

1771
02:09:46,968 --> 02:09:48,888
don't have anything going on, it would be nice for

1772
02:09:48,968 --> 02:09:52,648
it to be a pretty or parking lot. Um, absolutely

1773
02:09:52,808 --> 02:09:57,928
positively, mostly handicap and loading would be my suggestion. I

1774
02:09:58,168 --> 02:10:01,848
will say that as far as, um, what the note

1775
02:10:02,008 --> 02:10:06,968
said with grays in and libertine, as far as them,

1776
02:10:06,888 --> 02:10:11,288
uh, failing to take over those leaseholds that they were,

1777
02:10:11,688 --> 02:10:13,608
their primary reasons were based on the fact that they

1778
02:10:13,928 --> 02:10:19,608
were not viable anymore, um, doing these parklets. And it's

1779
02:10:19,608 --> 02:10:24,808
true, um, but also with, with the libertine, um, he,

1780
02:10:24,808 --> 02:10:27,208
if he was going to do that kind of a

1781
02:10:27,288 --> 02:10:31,208
larger scale improvement, he wanted to make it something that

1782
02:10:31,768 --> 02:10:34,568
generated revenue for him because it costs so much to

1783
02:10:34,568 --> 02:10:37,608
do it and to maintain it. And unfortunately he could

1784
02:10:37,688 --> 02:10:42,408
not secure a long - term lease to do day

1785
02:10:42,488 --> 02:10:45,368
events. So, um, just wanted to put that note out

1786
02:10:45,448 --> 02:10:49,739
there. Do you have that page at all. Yeah. So

1787
02:10:50,059 --> 02:10:52,975
Ray, if you could please display my screen. And also

1788
02:10:53,055 --> 02:10:54,415
while I have the mic just want to do a

1789
02:10:54,415 --> 02:10:58,884
time check, have starts at 530. Okay. Yes. I'm going

1790
02:10:58,804 --> 02:11:02,110
to be quick. So, um, I just want to point

1791
02:11:02,110 --> 02:11:06,670
out if you look at room at area one, the,

1792
02:11:06,590 --> 02:11:10,030
I cut it in half north and south. And anyway,

1793
02:11:10,990 --> 02:11:20,590
in area one, there's 292 parking spaces. So 186 in,

1794
02:11:20,510 --> 02:11:22,270
if you have the one to the north and half

1795
02:11:22,350 --> 02:11:26,750
the one to the south, um, and there are about

1796
02:11:27,070 --> 02:11:31,630
five restaurants, charter boats, couple recreation in the South part,

1797
02:11:31,550 --> 02:11:34,910
you have like 30 hotel rooms, four restaurants, three gifts

1798
02:11:35,310 --> 02:11:39,550
and two charter boats. But as you keep going down,

1799
02:11:39,470 --> 02:11:41,390
the amount gets less. So if you just go to

1800
02:11:41,630 --> 02:11:46,510
like section four in section four, you have six restaurants.

1801
02:11:46,430 --> 02:11:50,190
Um, the libertine, which could possibly be mixed use eventually,

1802
02:11:50,110 --> 02:11:54,430
um, three dessert stores, seven gift shops, eight hotel rooms,

1803
02:11:54,670 --> 02:11:59,230
one wine bar, three boat recreational activities and one jewelry

1804
02:11:59,310 --> 02:12:03,310
store. And in that quadrant, there's 54 parking spaces. I

1805
02:12:03,550 --> 02:12:06,430
did lump it all together, whether it was loading and,

1806
02:12:06,510 --> 02:12:10,510
and handicap, uh, just to be brief on this. And

1807
02:12:10,590 --> 02:12:12,910
then if you go to section six, you have four

1808
02:12:13,070 --> 02:12:16,750
restaurants, nine gift, one clothing, one service give to two

1809
02:12:16,750 --> 02:12:21,310
nonprofits. That's where Marina Square is. That quadrant has 30

1810
02:12:21,470 --> 02:12:25,630
spaces. So at this point in time, the EML would

1811
02:12:25,790 --> 02:12:31,310
absolutely request that you not remove any parklet. And that

1812
02:12:31,870 --> 02:12:35,790
are not remove any parking. Um, in the street ends,

1813
02:12:35,710 --> 02:12:38,750
um, and that right now we already have a deficit

1814
02:12:39,070 --> 02:12:42,510
of parking. So if you restripe, rearrange things to increase

1815
02:12:42,910 --> 02:12:46,670
more parking. Great. But still, even after that, we'll still

1816
02:12:46,750 --> 02:12:50,830
have a deficit of parking spaces. So, um, if it

1817
02:12:50,910 --> 02:12:53,950
does in fact happen that we're ever at a point

1818
02:12:54,030 --> 02:12:57,870
where we have too many, then maybe contemplate, um, changing

1819
02:12:57,950 --> 02:13:06,797
these to parklets. Yeah. Um, so for me, I started

1820
02:13:06,877 --> 02:13:12,489
with what problem are we trying to solve. And if

1821
02:13:12,489 --> 02:13:14,729
the only thing that we're, if the only reason we're

1822
02:13:14,969 --> 02:13:18,809
really doing this is to align with the general plan.

1823
02:13:18,729 --> 02:13:20,729
And that doesn't align with what we're hearing from the

1824
02:13:20,889 --> 02:13:25,129
community. Then my first thought is that we should, um,

1825
02:13:25,529 --> 02:13:28,089
try to raise to city council whether or not there's

1826
02:13:28,169 --> 02:13:32,329
a opportunity to change the requirement. If there isn't, um,

1827
02:13:32,809 --> 02:13:35,529
then my second thought would be tried to minimize how

1828
02:13:35,689 --> 02:13:38,889
we meet the requirements. So I like the idea of

1829
02:13:39,369 --> 02:13:43,449
the bulb idea of kind of bringing the sidewalk to

1830
02:13:43,529 --> 02:13:47,449
the end of the parking spaces to minimize, um, the

1831
02:13:48,489 --> 02:13:53,929
street ways that, um, pedestrians are crossing. I do think

1832
02:13:54,089 --> 02:13:59,689
that if we are required or are interested in a

1833
02:13:59,769 --> 02:14:03,929
street - end opportunity, then the centennial park opportunity to

1834
02:14:03,929 --> 02:14:07,929
me is the most compelling because of the view corridor

1835
02:14:08,489 --> 02:14:11,609
and also kind of like pedestrian corridor that we have

1836
02:14:11,769 --> 02:14:16,003
there. Which also based on kind of the performance of

1837
02:14:16,723 --> 02:14:19,843
trying to get someone to develop the libertine, um, could

1838
02:14:20,323 --> 02:14:26,947
meet an opportunity that the city has as well. Thank

1839
02:14:27,027 --> 02:14:30,867
you. I agree with most of the comments from my

1840
02:14:30,947 --> 02:14:35,827
fellow committee members, uh, and I think the primary person,

1841
02:14:35,827 --> 02:14:39,027
we should keep our eye on the prize. What rather

1842
02:14:39,027 --> 02:14:42,227
than focusing on solutions about whether we're going to convert

1843
02:14:42,307 --> 02:14:46,328
all these or where they need plazas. The requirement or

1844
02:14:46,488 --> 02:14:48,648
their question the general plan is to enhance lateral access.

1845
02:14:49,813 --> 02:14:52,533
Make the sidewalks connect better, make the harbor rock connect

1846
02:14:52,533 --> 02:14:55,229
better. And if you think of that as sort of

1847
02:14:55,229 --> 02:14:58,909
an Oreo cookie, we're talking about the outer layers. We

1848
02:14:59,389 --> 02:15:02,023
don't need to presume what's on the inside. What's on

1849
02:15:02,023 --> 02:15:05,223
the inside could be an expansion of adjacent lease space.

1850
02:15:05,143 --> 02:15:07,143
I think that there was a commentary about there are

1851
02:15:07,063 --> 02:15:08,583
a couple of them that are like 25 or 30

1852
02:15:08,663 --> 02:15:12,983
feet wide that are unusable without some addition on them.

1853
02:15:16,261 --> 02:15:18,741
And I think we heard some comments from Mr. Meyer

1854
02:15:19,061 --> 02:15:21,701
that while we're doing that, let's also think about the

1855
02:15:21,941 --> 02:15:26,981
vertical access. Because when somebody's walking along the embarkadero, they're

1856
02:15:26,981 --> 02:15:29,381
saying, so the water's over there. That's where I want

1857
02:15:29,301 --> 02:15:35,192
to go. So, uh, I support the idea of redevelopment.

1858
02:15:37,603 --> 02:15:41,043
Expansion adjacent lease bases, retention to some parking, we're feasible.

1859
02:15:42,090 --> 02:15:45,210
As well as conversion for some plazas, pet plazas, I

1860
02:15:45,130 --> 02:15:49,839
can think of around Gio's parking lot. Or anchor park

1861
02:15:49,839 --> 02:15:52,319
is that gets a lot of pedestrian uses, a sea

1862
02:15:52,479 --> 02:15:55,715
lion area. Uh, viewing area. And they sort of cram

1863
02:15:55,715 --> 02:15:57,555
into the edge of the parking. I can see expanding

1864
02:15:57,555 --> 02:16:01,738
that piece out. Or the beach street street end is

1865
02:16:02,058 --> 02:16:04,961
where everybody goes to see the acute otters. But they

1866
02:16:04,881 --> 02:16:07,521
have to walk through a parking lot to get there.

1867
02:16:07,441 --> 02:16:11,681
Maybe we expand out the viewing area for the otters.

1868
02:16:11,601 --> 02:16:13,921
And maybe some of that goes back to the, uh,

1869
02:16:15,121 --> 02:16:20,394
adjacent leasehold as well. Uh, don't necessarily support carte blanche

1870
02:16:20,554 --> 02:16:23,914
conversion of public clauses. I agree that, uh, let's do

1871
02:16:23,994 --> 02:16:29,127
something significant at the center. Uh, that's probably, uh, centennial

1872
02:16:29,207 --> 02:16:34,162
plaza. And I also agree that as we work through

1873
02:16:34,242 --> 02:16:36,162
that, we need to have a feasible plan to, uh,

1874
02:16:36,962 --> 02:16:39,522
to replace the parking if it needs to be displaced.

1875
02:16:39,442 --> 02:16:42,002
And it needs to be probably of the same location

1876
02:16:42,322 --> 02:16:44,962
and quality. So if it isn't on the street end,

1877
02:16:45,282 --> 02:16:49,842
it's based on, uh, providing some diagonal parking on the

1878
02:16:50,082 --> 02:16:53,122
embarkadero. And it can be done with succeed degree parking.

1879
02:16:53,042 --> 02:16:56,482
You can actually add spaces in front of everybody's business.

1880
02:16:56,402 --> 02:16:59,282
So rather than having a parking space on the side,

1881
02:16:59,202 --> 02:17:02,554
maybe have one that's dead into your business. But I

1882
02:17:02,714 --> 02:17:04,874
think before we go forward and say, well, we'll figure

1883
02:17:04,954 --> 02:17:07,514
that out later on. Let's figure that out a piece

1884
02:17:07,674 --> 02:17:10,093
out right now. And say when we do this, we're

1885
02:17:10,333 --> 02:17:11,853
going to do this other thing. Or do it ahead

1886
02:17:12,013 --> 02:17:13,851
of time. Because I don't think there's going to be

1887
02:17:13,771 --> 02:17:15,691
a lot of confidence that you'll get around to it

1888
02:17:16,331 --> 02:17:18,571
when you get around to it. So it's got to

1889
02:17:18,571 --> 02:17:20,731
be part of the same project or be done ahead

1890
02:17:20,891 --> 02:17:27,544
of time. I also think that we need to be

1891
02:17:27,544 --> 02:17:32,504
able to identify, in addition to the dimensions, what are

1892
02:17:32,584 --> 02:17:35,697
the constraints that we're dealing with. I can think of

1893
02:17:36,097 --> 02:17:39,377
the Hofbrow has its only exit to a public way

1894
02:17:40,657 --> 02:17:42,817
as its main door out to a street end, which

1895
02:17:42,817 --> 02:17:45,993
is a public way. If we change that to something

1896
02:17:46,233 --> 02:17:51,408
else, then they don't have the same exiting. Capacity. Some

1897
02:17:51,568 --> 02:17:53,808
of the trash cans are pushed all the way to

1898
02:17:53,808 --> 02:17:55,808
the back to the site because currently they're at the

1899
02:17:55,808 --> 02:17:58,048
end of the street ant. I think that's libertine has

1900
02:17:58,128 --> 02:18:01,235
their trash can at the end. So how are we

1901
02:18:01,315 --> 02:18:03,155
going to roll that trash can all the way out

1902
02:18:03,235 --> 02:18:05,667
to the street so it can be picked up. I

1903
02:18:05,667 --> 02:18:09,907
think the example was given of Anderson in that actually

1904
02:18:10,067 --> 02:18:14,314
relies on the street and for its circulation. So before

1905
02:18:14,474 --> 02:18:16,874
we go too far forward of, you know, doodling things

1906
02:18:17,114 --> 02:18:18,794
on what we can do. I think it's really important

1907
02:18:19,114 --> 02:18:24,654
to show. What are the current constraints. And possibly also

1908
02:18:24,974 --> 02:18:28,814
in terms of fire department access. Is that needed to

1909
02:18:28,894 --> 02:18:32,174
get to the second story of a, of a lease

1910
02:18:32,174 --> 02:18:36,894
base. So, uh, once we do that, maybe it becomes

1911
02:18:36,974 --> 02:18:39,454
a little, a little more focused, but I think we're

1912
02:18:39,454 --> 02:18:43,901
going to find out that maybe it isn't as. Open

1913
02:18:44,141 --> 02:18:47,029
a palate as we think it might be. So before

1914
02:18:47,109 --> 02:18:49,749
we ask people to sort of do that, let's say,

1915
02:18:49,669 --> 02:18:51,509
well, you can't do that. You can't do that. You

1916
02:18:51,509 --> 02:18:53,669
can't do that. And here's how we're going to solve

1917
02:18:53,669 --> 02:18:56,789
the parking problem. Anyway, those are my comments on the,

1918
02:18:56,709 --> 02:19:01,286
uh, the street end issue. Anything to follow up on

1919
02:19:01,366 --> 02:19:04,006
there? I'd like to, I think this comment will keep

1920
02:19:04,086 --> 02:19:07,846
coming up. So I'd like to address the comment of,

1921
02:19:07,766 --> 02:19:09,766
could the city council just eliminate that policy so we

1922
02:19:09,686 --> 02:19:14,101
don't have to deal with it. So the city council,

1923
02:19:14,021 --> 02:19:16,901
of course, has the authority to amend the general plan

1924
02:19:17,301 --> 02:19:20,741
going through the required process. Then the next step would

1925
02:19:20,821 --> 02:19:24,021
be to send that amendment to coastal commission for certification.

1926
02:19:24,341 --> 02:19:27,918
Coastal commission will say no. And so I'd rather take

1927
02:19:27,998 --> 02:19:30,238
that six to nine months of that process would take

1928
02:19:30,798 --> 02:19:32,638
and work with the waterfront master plan to figure out

1929
02:19:32,718 --> 02:19:36,398
how we can tailor that policy implementation in a way

1930
02:19:36,398 --> 02:19:42,428
that works for the community. Okay. Thank you. Uh, that

1931
02:19:42,668 --> 02:19:44,908
concludes our deliberations. I want to thank everybody for their

1932
02:19:45,148 --> 02:19:48,348
comments and for the public for being concise. I was

1933
02:19:48,428 --> 02:19:50,588
worried that we were going to blow past 530 pretty

1934
02:19:50,588 --> 02:19:54,117
quickly. But we got done on time. And, uh, with

1935
02:19:54,197 --> 02:20:00,860
that, I'll entertain an emotion to adjourn. I'll motion to

1936
02:20:00,940 --> 02:20:05,796
adjourn. Mark second, all those in favor. Aye. Thank you.

1937
02:20:07,737 --> 02:20:12,830
Good evening, everybody. I hope some of the rubs are.