[0:03] Okay, the date is October 5, [0:05] 2026. The time is 7:15. [0:08] I am now announcing a [0:09] public hearing [0:10] on Ordinance 2026-24 [0:12] to transfer the [0:12] real property, or [0:14] Stroh property, to the [0:15] beginning. Is there [0:16] anyone in the audience who would [0:17] like to speak? [0:21] Since there is [0:21] no one present, we are closing the [0:23] public hearing [0:24] on Ordinance 2026-24 and [0:25] we will see everyone in [0:26] about 15 [0:27] minutes at [0:28] our council meeting. Thank you. On the 5th, [0:50] I am calling the [0:53] October 2026 City Council meeting [0:54] to order. [0:55] Please stand and [0:56] take the Pledge of [0:57] Allegiance. [1:01] Pledge allegiance to the [1:02] flag of the United [1:03] States of America and to [1:04] the republic it [1:05] represents, one [1:06] nation under God, [1:07] indivisible, with [1:08] liberty and [1:09] justice for [1:10] all. [1:15] Okay, first of all, we, [1:16] uh, didn't have any [1:17] presentations on the [1:18] agenda, but [1:19] we do have one [1:20] presentation, uh, [1:21] tonight, [1:22] so I'm going to go to the [1:23] podium. Okay, sir, would [1:37] you like to [1:38] come over? [1:39] How are you doing? [1:40] Nice [1:41] to meet you. Okay, [1:45] so we have a [1:46] proclamation for Carroll [1:47] Community Media, uh, Carroll County [1:48] Community Media Center, who [1:49] do a lot of [1:50] good work, uh, not [1:51] just for our [1:52] municipality, but [1:53] for every [1:54] municipality in the [1:55] county. Uh, we just [1:56] wanted to thank them with [1:57] this proclamation. [1:58] Because the Carroll County Community Media Center [1:59] provides [2:01] community members, [2:02] nonprofits, schools, [2:04] and government [2:04] agencies with resources [2:06] to create and [2:07] distribute [2:07] digital [2:08] media content [2:09] important to their [2:10] local communities. And [2:11] because the Community Media Center [2:13] plays a [2:14] vital role in [2:15] citizen participation, [2:15] providing [2:16] coverage of [2:17] municipal meetings [2:18] , local elections, and [2:19] community events. [2:21] And because the Community Media [2:22] Center celebrates our [2:23] student- [2:24] athletes [2:25] with CM CMS Sports Net [2:26] and live streaming of [2:27] every game from every [2:31] Carroll County Public High School stadium and gym. And [2:32] because the Community Media Center [2:34] works to [2:34] preserve our [2:35] local history, [2:36] honor our [2:37] local veterans, [2:38] provide [2:39] diverse [2:40] communities with the means to [2:41] tell their [2:42] stories, and empower [2:43] people [2:44] to create content [2:45] to inform, [2:46] connect, and improve [2:47] the quality of life in our [2:48] region. Now, therefore, it [2:50] is hereby decreed that [2:52] October 20, 2026, be [2:53] proclaimed [2:54] Community Media Day in the [2:56] City of Mount Airy. And [2:58] all residents are [2:58] encouraged [2:59] to promote [3:00] the importance of [3:00] community media, [3:02] services and training [3:03] available at the [3:05] Carroll County Community Media Center. As [3:07] well as programs [3:08] available on [3:10] cable channels 18, [3:12] 19, 23 and HD 1072, as well as [3:14] online at carolmediacenter.org. [3:17] Thank you very much. [3:22] Well, it's definitely an honor for me to be [3:24] here tonight. [3:25] I want to thank [3:26] the leadership here at [3:27] Mount Airy. Mount [3:28] Airy, as you've heard [3:29] from me before, has [3:30] really been at the [3:31] forefront of [3:31] implementing [3:32] innovative [3:33] ways to [3:34] use [3:34] technology and [3:35] ensuring that [3:36] community residents [3:37] have the opportunity [3:38] to see [3:39] your government in action. We [3:40] use this as the [3:42] model we [3:42] used. That's what [3:43] allowed us to [3:44] do the kind of [3:45] coverage we [3:46] do in sports, where we [3:47] 're in every gym [3:48] and on every field. These are [3:49] cameras that can be [3:50] controlled remotely [3:52] . We have [3:53] great teams at the facility. You [3:54] don't see them. As [3:56] a result, you [3:57] only see camera movement. But it [3:58] really matters in [3:59] terms of our [4:00] ability to increase [4:01] the amount of coverage [4:04] our residents can get. [4:05] We also want to encourage [4:06] residents [4:07] to read our [4:08] election guide. [4:09] We provide a great [4:10] opportunity for [4:11] candidates [4:12] running for [4:13] elected office [4:14] to come, or we go [4:15] to them in the case of [4:16] election forums, [4:17] where we have the [4:18] opportunity [4:18] to share what [4:19] our candidates [4:20] running for [4:21] elected office [4:22] want to say to our [4:23] residents. So this is a [4:24] great opportunity [4:25] for them [4:26] to learn about it as well. So [4:27] we appreciate that. [4:29] Thank you very much. [4:29] Yes, thank you very much. [4:31] Of course. Oh, [4:32] go on. Perfectly. [4:42] Okay, thank you very much. [5:00] Okay, but now [5:00] let's move on to the part of [5:01] our [5:02] agenda dedicated to [5:03] public [5:03] discussion. Does anyone [5:04] from the audience wish [5:05] to speak? Yes, ma'am. [5:06] Please come over [5:08] . Of course. Please [5:09] just provide your [5:10] name and address for the [5:11] record. [5:12] Of course. My name is [5:15] Jen McCoy. I live at [5:18] 605 South Main Street. Way up the [5:19] hill, of course. [5:21] Good evening, [5:22] council members and [5:23] acting mayor. [5:24] Thank you for [5:25] the opportunity to speak [5:26] to you this [5:27] evening. My name is [5:28] Jen McCoy. I've [5:30] told you about it before, and I [5:31] live on South Main [5:32] Street, about [5:33] halfway up the hill. [5:34] My family moved into [5:35] this house in April, [5:36] but it's also [5:37] my childhood home. I'm not [5:38] used to using the [5:40] loudspeaker. Hmm, which [5:42] was also my [5:43] childhood home. [5:44] Hmm, I've lived in [5:46] or [5:47] around Mount Airy my whole [5:48] life. So I guess I'm a [5:49] real [5:51] Mount Airy fan. I'm here [5:52] because my neighbors and I [5:53] witness [5:54] constant [5:55] speeding and [5:56] aggressive driving on [5:57] South Main Street every day. Hmm, [5:59] every day, and we [6:01] need your [6:02] help. When I [6:04] returned to this [6:05] house, I was [6:06] shocked by how [6:07] fast the vehicles were moving [6:09] in front of my house. [6:11] I also began to [6:12] notice the [6:12] speed limit sign [6:13] on Calvary, which [6:14] showed [6:15] cars regularly [6:16] traveling [6:17] between 40 and 55 [6:18] miles per hour. And you'll [6:19] realize it's [6:20] right before the [6:20] crosswalk [6:21] , right before you [6:22] exit into our [6:23] historic, [6:24] beautiful [6:25] downtown Mount Airy. Um, [6:28] I realized I thought [6:30] 20th Street was [6:32] Route 27. Um, our [6:33] town has probably fallen [6:35] victim to Waze and [6:37] Google Maps. In early [6:40] May, I contacted the [6:42] Mount Airy Police Department. [6:44] They agreed that [6:45] the road was dangerous, [6:46] with no shoulders, [6:47] limited visibility, and [6:51] heavy traffic of both pedestrians and cars. These [6:54] conditions make it [6:55] dangerous for drivers to stop [6:56] drivers. So they [6:58] usually go further [6:59] north and south, [7:01] which I completely understand [7:02] . I can barely cross [7:04] the road to get [7:05] the mail. In fact, [7:07] most of my [7:08] neighbors have [7:09] mailboxes [7:10] because they can't [7:11] safely cross [7:12] Main Street. In [7:14] early May, um, [7:15] when I asked [7:16] a police officer what [7:18] speed reduction measures [7:20] the city was considering, I was told that since [7:21] it was a state highway [7:22] , [7:23] speed reduction measures [7:24] would require [7:25] state approval and [7:26] willingness to implement them, [7:28] depending on the budget. [7:30] The city does not control [7:31] public roads and does not [7:33] have the authority [7:34] to make any [7:35] changes. I was advised [7:36] to contact the [7:38] Mount [7:38] Airy Department of Transportation for [7:39] more [7:40] information. So I [7:42] thought I would reach out [7:43] to the mayor to [7:44] see if [7:45] perhaps the city already has [7:46] some [7:47] speed reduction measures in place [7:48] that are requested by [7:49] the state. He [7:51] treated me with [7:53] compassion. He [7:54] said he would get back [7:55] to me after talking [7:56] to the boss because [7:57] they do have some [8:00] speed reduction measures they are [8:01] trying to [8:02] implement. But I was [8:05] assured that in the meantime [8:06] we had to [8:07] do something. I was [8:09] full of hope. A [8:10] few weeks later I [8:11] found out that he [8:12] had resigned. [8:14] So I decided [8:15] to contact the [8:16] state directly, as [8:17] the police advised. I contacted [8:22] MDOT. After several [8:24] weeks of no response, [8:25] I decided to reach out [8:26] to the office of Justin [8:28] Redding, the [8:29] state senator, and also the [8:30] governor's office. I [8:32] shared what my [8:33] neighbors and I had seen, [8:34] and I also provided [8:35] photos [8:36] showing the hill on Main [8:37] Street [8:38] descending straight into the [8:39] historic [8:40] downtown area, and I provided them with [8:41] several photos of [8:42] cars traveling at least 45 mph as they [8:45] passed the [8:46] sign entering the [8:47] city. Both offices [8:50] were extremely [8:51] helpful. And [8:52] Senator Redding's office [8:53] put me in touch with [8:54] state officials [8:55] who were eager to help. [8:58] MDOT also informed [8:59] me that rectangular [9:00] speed flashing [9:01] lights have already been [9:02] approved at two [9:04] locations, at the [9:04] train station [9:05] and on Hood Street [9:06] , and are currently being [9:08] developed. Although [9:10] given the high [9:11] speed of [9:12] traffic, many [9:13] drivers also [9:14] use [9:14] cell [9:15] phones, I wasn't [9:16] sure. I responded [9:17] and said I wasn't [9:18] sure if this would [9:19] really solve our [9:20] problem. They also [9:22] stated that the existing [9:23] beacon sign on Park [9:25] Avenue would remain. [9:26] Although I'm following this [9:27] issue as it [9:28] appears that this sign has been [9:29] removed. This is important [9:31] because a recent [9:33] speeding study I [9:34] read on Park [9:35] Avenue showed that [9:37] in just 2 weeks, 2,420 [9:38] vehicles [9:39] were [9:40] speeding. 340 of them [9:42] exceeded 10 miles [9:43] per hour. Eight [9:45] drivers [9:46] whose speed was considered [9:46] aggressive or [9:47] reckless were considered [9:49] speeding. [9:51] State Highway Department officials [9:52] told me [9:53] they are evaluating [9:54] additional improvements [9:55] to [9:55] crosswalks and that speed cameras [9:57] near the school would be [9:58] approved if [9:59] the city [10:00] requests them. The state also [10:01] agreed to conduct a 48- [10:03] hour [10:04] speed study on blind [10:05] hills to better [10:06] understand [10:08] traffic volumes and speeds. From [10:11] my conversation, [10:12] it's clear that the state is [10:13] ready to help. [10:15] But many events [10:16] require an official [10:17] request from the city. [10:18] I [10:19] looked at the [10:20] Mount Airy Police Department's [10:21] traffic data last night. [10:22] The number of [10:24] speeding stops on North [10:26] Main Street [10:27] has already surpassed [10:28] last year's [10:29] tally, with a total of [10:30] 78 in 2026, [10:31] compared to 70 for all of [10:33] 2025. The report [10:34] notes that [10:35] speeding is most [10:36] prevalent on North Main [10:37] Street, where the [10:38] schools are located. Which is [10:39] actually a bit [10:41] alarming if [10:42] you've been sitting outside [10:43] my house on the porch for an hour [10:44] . I appreciate your [10:46] increased presence [10:48] over the past few [10:49] weeks. Really. But [10:51] control alone [10:52] cannot solve this [10:53] problem. Just [10:55] yesterday, around [10:56] noon, I was coming down the [10:57] hill. I [10:58] stopped on the hill. [10:59] I turned on the [11:00] turn signal so my [11:01] daughter could pull out of the [11:02] driveway and I [11:04] could pull in. The driver [11:05] aggressively overtook [11:07] me, almost hitting [11:08] us both. Then he followed [11:10] my daughter [11:11] all over town. This is not an [11:14] isolated incident. [11:17] Delivery drivers [11:18] tell me [11:19] stories like this all the time, [11:21] and I see it with my own [11:22] eyes. We need [11:28] speed reduction measures. And the state [11:30] seems ready to [11:31] support the city. [11:33] As Route 27 becomes [11:35] busier, [11:36] this problem [11:37] will only increase. I believe the [11:40] city can take a [11:41] few steps. [11:42] Strategically [11:43] place [11:44] crosswalks with [11:45] stop signs, similar to the one [11:48] on Park Avenue and [11:49] Marydale, on these [11:50] known problem [11:51] streets. The same [11:52] design should be [11:53] considered at Main [11:54] Street and Flower Avenue [11:55] , where a recent accident [11:57] forced police [11:58] to close the road. On [12:01] Main Street and Sunset, [12:02] where there [12:04] are [12:05] frequent accidents every day on the left turn because [12:06] someone stops and [12:07] someone goes down the [12:08] hill at high [12:09] speed. So, [12:12] residents, um, this will also [12:13] slow down [12:14] traffic into the city. [12:17] At Prospect Avenue and [12:18] Hill Street, residents [12:19] will be able to safely [12:20] cross the road [12:21] to reach the [12:22] new Rails and Trails track [12:23] from downtown. I don't [12:25] know if anyone has ever [12:26] done this. If you were walking [12:27] on Prospect Avenue, [12:28] you need to walk on the [12:29] right side of [12:30] the road, you will come to a [12:31] point where you [12:32] need to cross [12:33] the road to get [12:34] to the railroad tracks. Good [12:36] luck. There's no way you [12:38] can [12:39] do this if you don't [12:40] know how to run, because [12:41] it's unsettling. Park [12:43] Avenue and Wildwood [12:44] Park, where a recent [12:46] speed study shows [12:47] high [12:48] traffic volume and [12:49] speeding. Speed ​​camera [12:52] in front of an elementary [12:53] school. The state has already [12:55] said it will approve [12:56] it. Reducing the [12:58] speed limit [12:59] on Main Street to 25 [13:00] miles per hour. We [13:03] are at a [13:04] turning point in the [13:05] history of our city. [13:07] Either Main Street becomes a [13:08] bypass for [13:10] Route 27, or we can [13:11] take steps to [13:12] make Mount Airy a pedestrian- [13:13] safe [13:14] community [13:16] where [13:17] small businesses can thrive. I am asking [13:19] the city council to [13:20] help solve [13:21] this ongoing [13:22] safety problem. Support the [13:24] city's cooperation with [13:25] government [13:26] agencies that are [13:27] ready to help. And to [13:28] the residents who [13:30] live there, I respectfully [13:31] ask you to outline [13:32] your plan for solving [13:33] this serious [13:34] problem. Because it's [13:36] not me. It's not just the [13:37] people who live on [13:38] this street. This is, if [13:39] you read social [13:41] media, if you [13:41] talk to [13:42] residents, if you [13:43] talk to [13:44] your neighbors, everyone is [13:45] concerned. I can [13:46] assure you that, [13:48] speaking with [13:48] neighbors, this is one of the [13:50] main issues that [13:51] concern residents [13:52] living within the [13:53] city limits. Thank you for your [13:56] time tonight. [13:57] Thank you. Does anyone else in [14:04] the audience wish to [14:04] speak for [14:05] public [14:06] discussion? Okay, [14:10] thank you. We are moving [14:11] on. We have [14:13] no speakers today. [14:14] Next, we will have [14:15] approval [14:15] of the minutes of the [14:16] council meetings and closed [14:17] minutes. Uh, [14:18] first we have the [14:18] minutes of the [14:19] city council meeting for [14:20] September 2026. Uh, do [14:21] we have a suggestion? [14:22] I will make a motion [14:23] for approval. Do [14:24] we have a friend? [14:25] I will support. [14:26] Good. Uh, is there any [14:28] discussion? [14:29] Yes, I would like to, uh, [14:30] ask, I would like to [14:32] make a suggestion [14:33] to add, uh, a [14:35] note. Uh, item 10, [14:38] resolutions and decisions, [14:43] be specific [14:45] here. Uh, I would say that [14:47] according to city [14:48] code, the council president [14:49] and [14:50] acting mayor [14:51] Washiba did not vote [14:52] for any ordinance. [15:02] Got it, Holly? [15:08] We mention this at [15:09] number four. Did you [15:10] also mean [15:12] number 10? [15:13] This was my [15:14] preference, just " [15:15] completely in favor". [15:16] Good. [15:17] Just to be [15:18] extremely precise. [15:21] I agree with that, Ed. With [15:24] this With this, Mr. [15:25] Councilor. So, I think [15:32] I'll amend the [15:34] motion to [15:35] accept, Tom. [15:37] Amend the [15:38] motion to [15:39] accept, uh, [15:40] clarification from, uh, [15:42] Councilmember Kelly. [15:49] Can I support you? I [15:51] will support. [15:52] Oh, yes. Yes. [15:59] Okay, everything's fine. [16:01] Yes. [16:01] Okay, so everyone who [16:02] supports [16:03] approving the [16:04] Council meeting minutes as [16:05] amended, please [16:06] confirm by [16:07] saying "yes." [16:08] Yes. [16:08] Closed. Okay, thank you. [16:12] Next, we have the minutes of the [16:13] closed meeting [16:14] for September 2026 [16:16] regarding, uh, the loan and the [16:17] lawsuit. Do we have [16:18] an offer? [16:20] Submit a proposal [16:21] for approval. Do [16:23] you have a suggestion? [16:25] I will support. [16:26] Okay, is there any [16:27] discussion on this [16:28] ? I don't hear [16:28] any, everyone who [16:29] supports [16:30] approving the [16:32] September 2026 closed meeting minutes regarding the [16:33] , uh, loan and lawsuit [16:34] , please [16:35] affirm by [16:35] saying "yes." [16:36] Yes. [16:36] Closed. Okay, thank you. [16:39] Okay, now we have a [16:40] report from our [16:42] Mount Airy Volunteer Fire Company. I see [16:43] Hall of [16:45] Famer Matt Gerd in the audience. [16:46] Welcome [16:47] back, sir. [16:48] Thank you. Thank you. Good [16:50] evening everyone. Uh, [16:53] 234 calls for [16:55] help in September. 189 in [16:57] Carroll, 33 in [16:58] Frederick, eight in [17:00] Howard and four in [17:01] Montgomery. We [17:03] had 182 [17:04] ambulance calls, [17:05] six [17:06] fire calls, and then another 46. [17:08] So that's, um, a lot of [17:09] non-medical calls, [17:10] canceled responses [17:12] , citizen assistance [17:13] , false alarms, [17:14] good intentions. So [17:16] we've [17:17] been a little busy this past month, [17:18] but, um, [17:19] anyway, [17:20] we're having [17:21] our 100th [17:22] anniversary gathering at the carnival grounds on November 7th [17:23] . [17:24] It will start at 10:00 and [17:25] end at 14:00. [17:27] Come over and [17:28] see if [17:28] I have any different [17:29] equipment. All of our [17:30] equipment will be there, [17:31] as will our first piece of [17:32] equipment, engine [17:33] number one. And then [17:34] other neighboring [17:35] companies and other people [17:36] will bring their, [17:37] ahem, old fire [17:38] engines there to [17:39] show off. So [17:40] come and [17:40] look at us. This is [17:41] open to the public. [17:43] Are there [17:43] any questions? [17:44] Um, just a quick [17:45] question. It sounds like you [17:46] were able to handle the [17:47] challenges with the [17:48] staff [17:49] you have, or you were just [17:50] able to... [17:50] Absolutely. Yeah, I [17:51] mean, it's nice that [17:52] we have [17:53] mutual aid if [17:54] we need [17:54] help, you know. It [17:55] always seems like [17:56] sometimes when we have [17:59] four medical [17:59] calls coming in at the same time, it's always like [18:01] that. Uh, sometimes, but [18:02] we have, you know, other [18:03] neighboring counties that [18:04] come and [18:05] help us. So that's [18:06] good. [18:07] Steeply. Thank you. [18:08] Yes, indeed. [18:09] Okay, thank you. [18:11] Next we will have a report from the [18:13] Mount Airy Police Department with [18:14] Chief Geneva. [18:17] Good evening, Mayor, er [18:19] , interim mayor, [18:20] Mr. Washburn, members of the [18:21] city council, and the [18:22] community of Mount Airy. [18:26] Service calls, 772 [18:28] service calls for [18:30] September 2026. [18:31] An increase of 40.36 [18:33] compared to September [18:34] 2025 when it was 550. [18:36] Again, just [18:37] a reminder that those [18:39] who participated were [18:41] self- [18:42] challenged, uh. As for [18:44] the officers, uh, who [18:45] were in sight. Regarding [18:46] fines – 56. [18:47] Warnings–189. [18:48] Repair orders – [18:49] 18. Arrests for [18:52] drunk driving – [18:53] two. Five arrests for [18:55] traffic violations [18:55] . The total [18:57] number of [18:58] transport stops is 129. Of these [19:00] 129 traffic stops [19:02] , I know I said [19:04] 56 fines, that's [19:06] 43.4 more than 129 [19:08] traffic stops. [19:10] Regarding criminal arrests [19:11] , we [19:13] had 10. Regarding [19:14] recruitment, we have [19:15] one candidate [19:16] awaiting recertification [19:17] . One candidate [19:18] is being interviewed [19:19] for the position of [19:20] academy officer, this is ongoing. And [19:22] two candidates [19:23] applied for the academy's initial [19:24] officer position [19:25] . Regarding Ms. [19:28] McCoy, Ms. McCoy, I [19:29] know I received [19:30] follow-up [19:31] communications [19:32] dating back to August [19:33] regarding your [19:34] concerns about [19:35] Main Street. At [19:38] last year's [19:38] September [19:40] City Council meeting, I [19:41] addressed [19:42] a memorandum to the City Council [19:43] regarding your [19:43] concerns along with [19:45] other [19:45] City Council members on [19:46] Main Street. The [19:48] Mount [19:49] Airy Police Department recommends [19:50] the following to [19:51] coordinate [19:52] your [19:54] Main Street problem [19:55] with others. This [19:58] will be targeted [19:59] enforcement, [20:00] periodic enforcement [20:01] of increased [20:02] visibility, uh, will [20:03] focus on [20:05] speeding, [20:06] aggressive or [20:07] reckless driving [20:08] , failure to follow [20:09] traffic rules, [20:10] inattentive driving, [20:11] failure to yield to [20:12] pedestrians, and other [20:14] violations that [20:14] contribute to safety on [20:16] Main Street. [20:18] Also, regarding the collection of [20:19] speed data, [20:21] I also contacted the [20:22] State Road [20:23] Service. I'm still [20:24] waiting for [20:25] some of this data to be verified. [20:27] Again, you are [20:28] correct, they should have [20:29] done a 24-48 hour [20:31] study in the [20:32] Main [20:33] Street corridor. Radar [20:35] display of [20:36] speeds, which ones [20:37] are permanently [20:38] there and which ones can be [20:39] moved, [20:40] directional [20:41] control details and high [20:42] visibility of [20:43] police presence. [20:45] In our report, [20:46] Sergeant Brooks provided [20:47] some data on accidents [20:49] on North and [20:50] South Main [20:51] Streets and [20:52] traffic, which I know [20:53] Councilman DeMott [20:54] requested some [20:55] information on. Again [20:56] , this is on the [20:57] agenda for [20:59] tonight for my [21:00] reading. And that [21:01] includes crashes from [21:02] 2025 to 2026 that [21:03] involved North and [21:05] South Main Street, [21:06] non- [21:07] reportable, [21:09] code 89 crashes, and [21:10] information sharing, traffic stop data [21:14] including tickets, [21:15] warnings and CRVs, [21:16] which are [21:18] safety repair orders, as well as [21:21] speeding misdemeanors. And again [21:22] , I'm waiting for the data [21:24] collection from the State [21:25] Highway Patrol. [21:26] As of today, I have [21:27] not received any of [21:28] this data. I [21:30] will continue to [21:31] gather information [21:32] with Sergeant [21:33] Brooks and the [21:33] Deputy [21:34] Chief to [21:35] address all [21:36] issues, not just the [21:37] Main [21:38] Street corridor, which is always a [21:39] top priority [21:41] when we conduct [21:42] our monthly [21:43] initiatives. This also [21:44] includes [21:46] any other complaints [21:47] we receive for the [21:48] city. So I [21:49] will continue to [21:50] receive this [21:51] updated information as well. [21:53] I have nothing more [21:54] to add, sir. [21:55] Good. Um, how [21:57] can we coordinate [21:58] with the streets, [21:59] roads, and [22:00] city staff, as well as the Department of [22:03] Defense Police Department, and let's [22:04] get in touch with the state. [22:06] If they are willing [22:07] to help and there is something [22:08] we can do. [22:09] Chairman of the Council, [22:10] one minute. [22:12] Yes. [22:12] Come on, Jared, what do [22:13] you think about this [22:14] ? [22:16] Yes. Can I steal this [22:17] ? Uh, yeah, I definitely [22:19] think we can [22:20] do some [22:21] coordination. I know, [22:22] um, some council members have [22:24] already reached out to MDOT, [22:26] um, and SHA on this [22:27] issue, and I think there's a [22:29] potential plan, [22:30] um, from them. But I [22:32] think we [22:33] should also get more, [22:34] ahem, internal [22:35] coordination from [22:36] our streets and roads, [22:37] staff, and [22:38] meetings with the police. [22:39] So I can [22:40] coordinate this at [22:41] our level. [22:42] Good. [22:43] Yes. [22:43] Good, because I know Karl [22:44] , of course, with the streets [22:45] and roads. I know [22:46] that Councilman Demott was [22:48] also invited [22:49] through Mdot. Uh, those are two [22:50] separate things. I [22:51] mean, the [22:52] Streets and Roads Department [22:53] will be dealing with the city [22:54] , while Councilman [22:55] Demott will be dealing more with [22:57] state matters. But if we [22:58] can go through the [22:59] Department of Streets and Highways [23:00] , which is usually the [23:01] quickest way, I [23:02] think, to get [23:04] things done, as far as that's [23:05] concerned. And then [23:08] coordinate with the [23:09] state. [23:09] Yes. [23:10] Whatever they can, whatever [23:11] they think is [23:12] right. Maybe [23:14] we can do it [23:15] sooner rather than later. [23:17] Yes, Rado. Yes, I [23:20] sent an [23:20] email and [23:21] that I was going to bring to [23:23] the attention of the lady and her [23:24] family during my [23:25] report that they are [23:26] looking into some [23:27] things. I [23:29] requested a few [23:31] things that you did. [23:32] It just, you know, [23:33] takes a little bit of time, [23:34] but I can...I'll say it [23:35] during my report, what [23:37] they're willing to do, [23:38] proposals and other [23:39] things of that [23:40] nature. So, it's [23:41] like they agreed to [23:43] do something or [23:43] consider it. And [23:47] just if you [23:48] could leave [23:51] your listed [23:52] suggestions and such in my mailbox for the Council. I [23:54] tried to write [23:55] them down while you were talking [23:58] about it, but you went [23:59] too fast. So [24:00] thank you. [24:01] No problem. [24:02] Yes. Yes, we [24:02] will look into it and [24:03] try to do [24:04] as much as [24:05] possible. [24:07] Okay, thank you. No, it [24:08] looks like you've already [24:09] done that, but we'd be [24:10] happy [24:11] to help. Thank you. [24:13] Mr. [24:13] Councilor. [24:15] Yes, I'm going to [24:16] talk about this [24:17] during my report, but [24:18] again, there's a [24:19] high- [24:21] level initiative called the [24:22] Coalition for a [24:22] Safer Maryland [24:24] , and I was invited to [24:25] participate in that [24:26] initiative. This is a [24:28] very [24:29] high-level initiative with the vice [24:30] governor. So I'm [24:34] going to talk [24:35] more about that, and also [24:36] about the importance and [24:37] necessity of [24:38] coordination within the [24:40] city; and then, [24:40] hopefully, as [24:42] part of this [24:43] high- [24:44] level initiative, I can bring a [24:45] prioritized list of [24:47] issues and needs to [24:48] the office of the governor and the [24:49] secretary of the [24:50] Maryland Department of Transportation [24:52] , with whom I work on [24:53] this coalition. I'll [24:56] talk more about that [24:57] later. [24:59] Okay, thank you. And then, [25:01] if possible, just [25:02] send me a copy, [25:03] you know, of [25:04] the information that [25:05] comes with it. [25:06] Yes. [25:06] So if we can [25:07] speed it up, we will [25:09] . And if [25:10] possible, any [25:10] information about [25:11] any communication with MDOT [25:13] where they expressed [25:14] their willingness [25:14] to help, please [25:16] forward it to us. [25:17] Yes. [25:17] Hmm, make sure [25:18] Jerry can get [25:19] your [25:20] email, as well as mine and the [25:21] board's email, and that way we [25:22] can just [25:23] reconcile all this [25:24] information. So if [25:25] they tell us [25:25] something different than what they [25:26] told her, I just [25:27] want to make sure [25:28] we have everything [25:29] on record and then [25:30] we can reach out [25:30] to them. Uh, thank you. [25:32] Okay, thank you very much, [25:33] boss. [25:34] Chairman, do you have [25:35] a few questions about the [25:36] data he [25:36] presented? [25:37] Can we ask [25:38] ? Yes, yes, of course. [25:39] Good. So, [25:40] boss, thank you. [25:41] In particular, regarding [25:44] accident data and [25:47] speeding stop data, it's great. [25:48] Hmm, I've been looking for this kind of data [25:50] since 2021, and you've [25:51] provided some of it [25:53] sporadically, but I'm [25:54] glad to see it. I [25:56] want to encourage you to [25:57] continue [25:58] doing this. I have a [26:00] few quick [26:01] questions. So, um, on the [26:04] second page [26:05] of your data, there's a [26:06] distribution of [26:08] speeding along 25th and 26th [26:09] Streets on North Main [26:10] compared to [26:11] South Main. Do [26:15] you have data [26:16] showing the [26:17] speed limit at which [26:18] these vehicles were stopped [26:19] ? In [26:22] other words, [26:23] for example, 2025 North [26:25] Main Street, 70 stops. [26:27] Were they stopped in [26:28] zones with a [26:30] 25 mph [26:31] or 30 mph speed limit? [26:32] That, sir, I [26:33] don't have before my eyes, and [26:34] again, I would [26:35] coordinate it with [26:36] Sergeant Brooks [26:37] to get that [26:38] information. It will take [26:39] a little [26:40] more digging into the [26:41] details to [26:42] try to [26:42] pull this out. Hmm, when you [26:44] look for the distribution, there are [26:45] no exact [26:46] velocities. You will [26:47] have to search for [26:48] each officer [26:49] individually, each day [26:50] separately for a year. [26:51] Good. Would you be, uh [26:52] , willing to at least, [26:54] since you're [26:54] going to [26:55] continue to [26:56] do this, if I have [26:57] any specific [26:58] requests for data, can [27:00] I at least [27:01] ask you about it, and [27:02] then you can [27:03] decide whether it's [27:04] too time-consuming [27:05] or not, or maybe it's [27:06] not valuable, but I [27:08] want to at least ask, [27:09] okay? Secondly, I [27:11] would like to get [27:12] feedback on your [27:13] comment regarding [27:15] accident data. Uh, [27:18] about 2 years ago I [27:20] requested a [27:21] study of crashes [27:22] just in the city center and [27:23] you, Sergeant Brooks, did a [27:24] really good [27:25] job of [27:26] pulling out all the [27:27] crash data and [27:28] most of it [27:29] boils down to [27:30] mirror slaps and [27:31] such. But the conclusion in the [27:36] report you provided [27:37] says, and I quote, that [27:38] there is a significant [27:39] safety problem [27:40] due to the narrowness of [27:44] the road and the [27:45] parking situation in the [27:46] city center. And that's something [27:48] I think we'll have to [27:49] continue to think about [27:50] in the future. So [27:51] thank you. [27:52] Yes, sir. [27:54] Something else? Okay, without [27:57] hearing anything, we'll [27:58] move on to the reports from the [27:59] mayor's council and [28:00] staff. A brief [28:01] report from the mayor. The participant in the [28:05] department heads meeting on the 17th [28:06] was very [28:06] informative. I was [28:08] here for a few hours, [28:09] learned a lot. [28:10] Just trying to get [28:11] my bearings to [28:12] make sure everything [28:13] stays afloat [28:15] until the [28:16] next elected [28:17] mayor comes along and, thankfully, [28:18] takes it from me. So, [28:20] you know, I'm just [28:21] hanging in here as best I can [28:22] until then. [28:24] We have had [28:25] some great [28:26] events over the past month, including the [28:28] Rotary Club Duck Race. I know [28:29] they went through it without a hitch [28:30] . [28:31] I hope they [28:32] raised a lot of [28:33] money. And this is a wonderful [28:34] event that, in my [28:35] opinion, brings [28:35] a lot of people together. [28:36] Councilman Evans, I know [28:38] you were present, I [28:38] think. I [28:40] was actually unwell after [28:41] spending the whole day in the rain the day [28:42] before [28:43] training, so I [28:44] couldn't get there. [28:45] But, um, and then, Mamso [28:46] , it's Oktoberfest. I [28:47] want to thank everyone [28:49] who had any [28:49] connection to this [28:51] event. Uh, boss, to [28:52] your entire team, um, [28:53] Mamso volunteers, [28:54] Jared, [28:55] city staff [28:56] . Uh, talked to [28:57] a lot of people. I [28:58] think everyone had a great [28:59] time. Everything [29:00] went smoothly [29:01] , and, uh, you know, [29:02] it's one of the best [29:03] events, in my opinion, [29:04] in the city of Mount Airy. [29:05] So I want to [29:06] thank everyone for that. And [29:07] then, uh, that's [29:08] pretty much the end of my [29:08] report, if you don't have [29:09] anything special. I [29:10] feel like you're [29:11] more of an acting [29:12] mayor than I am right now. [29:13] So, [29:13] uh, we appreciate you [29:14] coming to the, uh [29:15] , staff meeting. [29:17] You see, you know, it's...it's [29:18] in ten minutes, [29:19] you know, we're there for a [29:20] while discussing everything [29:21] that's going on. So [29:22] we are grateful to you. Uh, I'd [29:23] like to [29:25] thank Grace, who [29:26] was a big, uh, [29:27] part of the city, uh, [29:28] kind of liaison [29:30] for the Mamsas event [29:31] . So, uh, a big [29:32] thank you to her for that. She did a [29:34] great job. [29:35] Yes, and still recovering, I [29:37] know. So it was a [29:38] long day and a great [29:39] event. [29:39] You recover until [29:40] next year. [29:41] Yes. We will start [29:43] planning this [29:43] next week. Uh, [29:46] we'll move on to, uh, the [29:48] Water and [29:49] Sewer Commission, the [29:50] Improvement Commission, the [29:52] Severe [29:54] Weather Task Force, the 250th [29:55] Fifty Committee, and the Coalition [29:56] for a Safer [29:57] Maryland with Councilman [29:59] Demmitt. [30:00] Okay, thank you. Uh, [30:01] first the [30:03] Improvement Commission. Uh, [30:04] the commission didn't meet [30:06] in September, and the next [30:08] commission meeting [30:09] will be on October 20th [30:11] at 7:00 p.m. I want to [30:11] emphasize, both I and I [30:13] asked the [30:13] acting [30:14] mayor and the [30:15] council president to put this [30:16] issue on the [30:17] agenda, and I'm glad [30:18] we did. I want to [30:19] reach out to [30:20] the Coalition for a [30:21] Safer Maryland [30:22] . So, the Coalition for a [30:24] Safer Maryland [30:25] is a very [30:26] high-level initiative [30:27] led by the Lieutenant [30:28] Governor and the [30:29] Secretary of the [30:31] Maryland Department of Transportation [30:32] . The goal is to [30:34] reduce [30:36] traffic fatalities and [30:36] move Maryland [30:37] toward zero [30:38] traffic fatalities. [30:40] So the focus is on [30:41] what [30:43] else we can do [30:44] across the state to [30:45] reduce [30:47] traffic fatalities, [30:48] pedestrian fatalities, and so on. Hmm, I'm [30:51] very grateful. I am very [30:53] grateful to have been [30:54] invited to [30:55] participate in this [30:56] high- [30:57] level initiative. It was by [30:59] invitation only, and not [31:00] every city was [31:01] invited. Only [31:03] about 12 [31:04] municipalities [31:05] participate by [31:06] invitation, and I was [31:07] invited to [31:08] participate. So it's a [31:11] great honor for me to be in the [31:12] coalition. Hmm, we [31:15] had a kick-off [31:16] meeting on September 1st. Hmm, [31:19] as soon as I was invited, [31:21] I coordinated with the [31:22] mayor. Hmm, and I [31:23] coordinated every [31:25] step. I reached out to the [31:27] Minneapolis Police Department to [31:28] get information from them [31:29] . Hmm, I [31:33] talked about this at the [31:35] Streets and [31:36] Highways Commission meeting last week, [31:38] and part of what I asked was to [31:39] ask the [31:41] Streets and Highways Commission for their [31:42] list of ongoing [31:43] issues and points of [31:44] coordination with the [31:45] state and others, [31:46] because I think [31:47] part of it is [31:48] because there are a [31:49] lot of people [31:50] talking to [31:51] a lot of [31:52] different people, and it's [31:53] not all coordinated. [31:57] So, within the framework of this [31:58] coalition [31:59] activity, [32:00] two [32:01] things are happening. This is an opportunity [32:03] for me to [32:04] collaborate with the [32:05] other 12 [32:05] municipalities to [32:06] develop [32:07] statewide [32:08] solutions for Vision [32:09] Zero. It is also an [32:13] opportunity to obtain [32:14] and implement [32:15] solutions adapted [32:17] to the needs of each [32:18] community. So this is a [32:22] great opportunity [32:23] for us [32:29] to discuss our [32:30] problems at a very high level and solve [32:31] some of them. [32:33] For example, after the [32:34] kick-off meeting on [32:36] September 1, I was very [32:38] straightforward. I [32:39] said, “I’m happy [32:40] to help with this [32:41] statewide [32:42] initiative, but I [32:43] need help [32:44] from the state. "That's what I [32:46] need." And 3 [32:49] days later I [32:50] got a call from Mdot in [32:51] Frederick's 7th District [32:53] and we discussed some [32:54] of the issues. Two things [33:00] I informed them about [33:00] from scratch, I [33:02] first agreed with [33:03] the police, first, is [33:05] our long-standing desire [33:06] to reduce the [33:07] speed limit to 25 on [33:08] Main Street. And my [33:13] comment to them was: " [33:14] If not now, then when [33:15] ?" So I got a [33:18] commitment from them. [33:19] They are going to [33:20] conduct a [33:21] speed study. They [33:22] look at these [33:23] issues a little differently [33:25] than in the past. It's not [33:28] just a matter of [33:29] quantifying [33:30] speed, but also other [33:31] factors such as [33:33] changes in the community, etc. [33:36] Another issue was the [33:38] rapid flashing [33:39] beacons, which we had [33:40] been requesting for [33:41] about 2 years to be installed in [33:42] our downtown [33:43] area. So this is just the [33:44] beginning. But my goal [33:50] in this is to be [33:51] able to [33:52] reach out to this [33:53] coalition and convey [33:54] the needs and issues [33:56] that I see in our [33:57] city as an elected [33:58] official and do [33:59] everything I can to [34:00] address them. So I think this is a [34:04] great [34:05] opportunity. I want to [34:08] coordinate with the [34:09] city [34:09] administration, [34:10] continue to [34:11] coordinate with the [34:12] police chief, [34:14] coordinate with the [34:15] mayor, because I think [34:16] we need a [34:17] single center of [34:18] coordination that [34:19] I can then bring [34:20] to us this [34:22] high-level opportunity. So, [34:26] this is updated [34:26] information on this [34:28] matter. I would like to [34:30] take the time to do this. [34:33] Okay, [34:34] water and [34:35] sewer commission, I'll be [34:36] brief [34:37] on this. We last [34:39] met on [34:40] September 2nd. We [34:41] will meet again on October 7th [34:43] . We continue to, um, [34:46] look at the issue of [34:48] water distribution and use. [34:53] For example, to what extent [34:54] should [34:55] previously approved [34:56] equivalent housing [34:57] units be taken into account when [34:58] considering a [34:59] development or [35:00] renovation project that [35:01] constitutes a change in the [35:02] character of the property. [35:07] We also consider [35:08] lessons learned as [35:09] a result of the [35:12] city's actual water consumption [35:12] exceeding [35:13] the estimated and [35:14] approved [35:15] water consumption. And we are [35:17] looking at lessons [35:19] learned in another [35:20] municipality that is [35:21] adopting an ordinance on [35:22] this issue. Severe Weather Working [35:25] Group [35:27] . Uh, we last [35:29] met on August 27th to [35:30] discuss and come to a [35:32] formal [35:32] recommendation on the [35:34] desired weather [35:35] alert siren system to [35:37] purchase. Uh [35:39] , sure, at the [35:40] September [35:41] meeting, the council [35:42] approved the purchase of an [35:45] American Signal weather alert siren system. I [35:47] want to inform you that [35:48] the city has issued a [35:50] purchase order. [35:51] The supplier mentioned [35:53] that the lead time for [35:55] equipment delivery is [35:56] 12 to 16 weeks. [35:57] Therefore, installation [35:58] may only take place [36:00] in early, um, 2027 [36:01] , [36:03] weather permitting. So this is a little [36:04] different than what [36:05] you heard from the [36:06] city engineer. I [36:07] think the estimate was [36:09] the end of December. This [36:10] won't happen until the end of [36:11] December. I also want to [36:14] thank [36:15] Mr. Josh Marks again for his [36:16] efforts. Josh raised, [36:19] um, a lot of money, um, [36:20] from private [36:21] businesses to go towards a [36:24] weather warning siren system. I also want [36:28] to let you know that [36:29] he has raised another [36:30] thousand dollars since September. This [36:34] brings the total [36:36] contributions to [36:37] $21,500, which will [36:39] come from [36:43] any funding [36:45] the city has to provide. [36:47] We will meet again on [36:49] October 8th to [36:50] discuss next [36:51] steps in [36:52] system implementation, education, and [36:53] outreach [36:55] . Uh, [36:58] America 250 Task Force, the [37:02] America [37:03] 250 celebration is coming to an end [37:04] as we [37:05] move into [37:06] late fall and the [37:07] holiday season here. [37:08] I remind you that you need to [37:10] click on the [37:11] "America 250" logo on the [37:12] city's website to [37:13] see upcoming [37:14] events. Uh, I'm also [37:17] working with Ashley Collier [37:19] from the city staff, [37:21] um, on the whole [37:21] America 250 program [37:23] , and specifically the [37:25] Time Capsule event. I think it [37:28] was very well [37:29] done, and I think [37:30] Ashley played a [37:31] leading role in it, [37:32] along with many [37:33] other [37:35] city staff. So, again [37:36] , coordinating [37:37] through the mayor, I wanted to [37:38] recognize the [37:39] city's employees [37:40] . And so I'm working with [37:44] them to put together an [37:45] application for the [37:50] Maryland Municipal League's Municipal Achievement Awards program. So, this is a [37:54] program that you [37:55] can apply for to have [37:57] your, um, efforts [37:58] recognized by MML. And we're [38:01] going to file this [38:02] under the [38:03] community engagement category. I [38:05] think it's good [38:06] to recognize our [38:07] city employees [38:08] when they do a [38:09] good job, and it's [38:10] good visibility for the [38:11] city. And I think those are [38:15] all my areas, and I [38:16] thank you for your time. [38:19] Okay, next we have [38:20] our planning commission report [38:21] with [38:22] Councilor Kelly. [38:24] Thank you, council chairman and [38:25] mayor. Uh, let's [38:27] see, the [38:28] Planning Commission met on [38:29] September 29th. Uh, a few [38:31] points. Uh, during the [38:32] public discussion portion of [38:33] the meeting, Chairman [38:34] Gant echoed [38:34] Councilor [38:35] DeMotor's comments that [38:36] we should collectively [38:37] review the [38:38] implementation strategies [38:39] detailed in the [38:40] 2023 Master Plan. Noting [38:42] that we will owe the [38:43] state updated [38:44] information in 2028, [38:45] which is [38:45] coming soon. The commission [38:47] requests that the council [38:48] set a date for a [38:49] workshop and/or [38:50] convene a meeting of [38:51] members of all commissions [38:52] to update the [38:53] implementation strategy. I'll [38:56] come back to that in a [38:57] minute. [38:59] The commission also expressed [39:00] our desire that [39:01] the police station [39:02] go through the normal [39:04] site planning process when the [39:05] time comes. I told them that I would [39:06] forward this request [39:07] with my full [39:08] support and agreement. [39:10] After further [39:11] discussion, the [39:12] final [39:13] site plan was re [39:15] -approved for the [39:16] Twin Arts Business Park Lot 15C for [39:18] King Sports Construction. [39:21] Resolution [39:23] 2026-25 regarding accessory [39:25] living spaces was also introduced and discussed. And [39:27] there were further [39:28] discussions regarding [39:29] recommendations for [39:30] amendments to the [39:31] city's [39:32] signage code. The next [39:34] Planning Commission meeting will [39:35] be held on October 26th [39:37] at 7:00 p.m. Uh, [39:39] going back to my [39:40] first point, so I'm [39:42] like, um, and this is in [39:43] my notes, uh, [39:44] a few months ago, [39:46] uh, regarding the desire, uh, [39:48] and obviously this has [39:49] happened in [39:50] the past, uh, for, uh, [39:51] members of all the commissions, [39:53] uh, to get together with the [39:54] city, staff. Uh, really, [39:58] to discuss uh [39:59] initiatives in the [40:00] master plan, uh [40:01] , gather updates, [40:02] agree on strategies. Uh [40:04] , something like that. So, I [40:07] think my [40:08] request here is, uh, from the [40:10] mayor, uh, city [40:11] administration, uh, and [40:12] I would imagine that the [40:13] next mayor, uh, [40:15] would start planning uh [40:16] this joint meeting/ [40:17] workshop for the first [40:19] quarter, early [40:20] second quarter, no [40:21] later. I think the [40:26] planning commission, in [40:27] particular, [40:29] has expressed several times that it's [40:30] time to do this [40:31] , and it's been a long time [40:32] , probably someone in [40:34] the room might have known that, [40:35] but it's been a long [40:36] time since it [40:37] actually happened. [40:41] So, I'm asking for this [40:42] now, and I'm also [40:46] volunteering [40:47] to be a [40:48] quasi-liaison [40:49] person if you [40:50] propose this [40:51] event, if there's anything I can [40:52] help with, I'll [40:53] definitely do it [40:55] . [40:56] Why don't we [40:57] work with the [40:58] liaisons [40:59] internally, and as we [41:00] get closer to [41:01] our next [41:02] meetings with our [41:03] specific [41:04] committees, let's [41:05] find out about [41:06] available dates. And then [41:07] let's report [41:08] them to Sean; let's see [41:09] if any [41:10] of these dates coincide with the [41:11] Conservative Council [41:12] and with the city [41:12] staff, and then we [41:14] can choose one. [41:15] But let's just [41:16] put it on ourselves [41:17] as liaisons. [46:58] I'm glad we came out on the [46:59] right side. [47:01] So I want to congratulate [47:03] everyone for [47:04] doing something that does [47:04] n't happen very [47:06] often, which is making a [47:07] decision for or against [47:08] development, especially in the [47:09] state of Maryland. So I'm [47:12] happy for our [47:13] citizens. I'm happy for [47:15] everyone who didn't want to [47:16] see rapid [47:17] growth within the [47:18] city limits, because that [47:19] was probably the main [47:21] reason I [47:22] ran for [47:23] office back then. So thank you, [47:25] Tom, and everyone who [47:27] played a role in this [47:28] process. Uh, [47:29] we all have copies of the [47:30] city administrator's report [47:31] , the [47:32] code compliance report, [47:33] and the [47:34] zoning administrator's report. Anything [47:35] to add, guys, before [47:36] we continue? [47:38] Good. Regarding the new [47:39] case, first [47:40] we have a [47:41] road closure to [47:42] approve to [47:42] ensure safety [47:43] in the Nottingham fields. [47:44] This is for Halloween. Um, [47:46] from 601 Longbow Road [47:49] to 811 Longbow Road on [47:51] Saturday, October 31st, from 5:45 p.m. [47:54] to 8:30 p.m. Do we have [47:55] an offer? [47:56] I will make a motion [47:57] to approve the " [47:59] Keep Safe" [48:00] as described by the [48:01] council chairman, the closure of [48:02] Longbow Road. [48:03] Okay, do we have a second [48:05] ? [48:05] I will support. [48:06] Okay, is there any [48:07] discussion? I guess the [48:09] only question [48:10] I have is, Chief, did [48:11] they coordinate [48:12] with you on this [48:13] and do what [48:14] they're doing? It [48:16] seems like [48:17] every year they [48:18] come to us. I [48:20] sent an [48:21] officer there. They do a great job [48:22] of [48:23] covering the [48:24] Nottingham area, so we have [48:25] never had [48:26] any complaints since [48:27] they have been [48:27] running. [48:28] Good. [48:29] So, I have no problem [48:30] allowing [48:31] this as a long period, [48:32] following your [48:32] example. And we'll [48:33] make sure the [48:34] officer is there [48:35] that evening too. [48:36] Okay, thank you. [48:37] Yes, sir. [48:38] Okay, we have [48:39] a proposal and a [48:39] second for approval. [48:40] Anyone who supports [48:42] approving the [48:43] road closure from [48:44] 601 Longbow Road to [48:45] 811 Longbow Road on Saturday, [48:47] October 31, from 5:45 to 8:30 p.m. [48:48] Please [48:48] confirm by [48:49] saying "yes". [48:50] Yes. [48:50] Against? Good. Next up, [48:53] we have a [48:54] road closure on Wednesday, [48:55] November 11th from 10:45 a.m. to 12:15 p.m. [48:57] at VFW Post 10076. This is a [49:00] Veterans Day ceremony on the [49:01] plaza next to [49:03] City Hall. It [49:04] will run from Main [49:05] Street between Center Street [49:06] and Hood Street. Do we have [49:08] an offer? [49:09] I will be submitting a proposal [49:10] for a [49:11] road closure related to the [49:13] Veterans Day ceremony at [49:14] VFW Post 10076 as [49:15] described in the application. [49:16] Okay, do we have a second [49:18] to approve? [49:18] Second. [49:19] Are there any discussions? [49:22] Okay, all in favor of a [49:23] road closure on [49:24] Wednesday, November 11th from [49:26] 10:45 a.m. to 12:15 p.m. at VFW Post [49:27] 10076. This [49:28] will cover [49:29] Main Street between [49:30] Center Street [49:32] and Hood Street. [49:33] Please confirm this by [49:34] saying "yes". [49:35] Yes. [49:35] Against? Good. And [49:39] we have another road closure on Saturday, [49:40] December 5, from 5:00 PM to 9:00 PM - [49:41] Christmas and [49:42] holiday parade on [49:44] Main Street. This is [49:50] Main Street from [49:51] West Water Street Road [49:52] to Cottonwood Avenue and [49:53] Paradise Avenue. Are we? [50:01] Will you...Will I make a [50:02] motion to [50:03] close [50:09] Main Street for the [50:10] Christmas celebration [50:11] and...It will be on Main [50:12] Street from West [50:13] Waterville Road to [50:14] Cottonwood Avenue and [50:15] Paradise Avenue. [50:16] Please confirm by [50:17] saying "yes". [50:18] Yes. [50:20] Good. Next, we have [50:21] approval for the purchase of a [50:24] budgeted dump truck for the [50:25] Streets [50:26] and Roads Department. Do we have [50:27] an offer? [50:28] I will make a motion [50:29] to approve [50:29] the purchase of a budgeted dump truck [50:31] for [50:32] the Streets [50:33] and Highways Department, just to [50:33] start the conversation [50:34] if there is any movement. Do [50:36] you have a second? [50:37] I will support. [50:38] Good. We're, uh, [50:39] discussing. Do we have [50:40] any discussions? [50:41] Yes, I have one or [50:43] two questions. Um... [50:45] So, I'm looking at the [50:46] bottom of the [50:47] recommendation [50:48] note under the net [50:49] purchase price, and [50:51] then there's a question: " [50:58] So, the budget was [50:59] passed in May. [51:01] It went into effect in [51:03] July." When did the staff [51:06] begin to investigate [51:07] the need to [51:08] purchase a dump truck? [51:12] I mean, uh, I [51:13] know Brian has [51:15] needed it for quite some [51:16] time. The dump truck [51:18] he has now is [51:19] not in good [51:20] working order right now, uh, uh [51:21] . I don't know how many [51:23] years it's been since [51:24] he started looking, [51:25] but I know it's been a [51:26] long time since [51:27] I've been here because [51:28] he mentioned it to me [51:29] pretty early on when I was [51:30] starting. [51:30] Good. My question is [51:32] basic, because the text [51:34] says: "We [51:34] considered an [51:35] additional [51:36] dump truck option before [51:41] recommending the RAM 5500." [51:43] Public Works recommends RAM [51:44] primarily because of [51:46] its immediate [51:47] availability, which [51:48] will allow the truck to be delivered, [51:49] equipped and put into [51:50] service [51:51] by the end of [51:52] December. So I guess [51:55] my question is [51:57] , did you [51:58] prefer another [52:00] dump truck option [52:01] over the RAM 5500? [52:02] No, he didn't [52:03] prefer one [52:05] or the other, but he [52:06] liked two things. [52:07] First, he [52:08] liked the diesel [52:09] version, which was [52:10] diesel, and the other one was [52:11] not. And the main goal is [52:14] its accessibility. We [52:15] want him to be able to [52:17] use it [52:18] this winter for snow. [52:19] Good. I [52:34] We [52:35] will start researching [52:36] and making a purchase [52:37] as soon as possible. [52:39] We will not wait until the [52:39] last minute. [52:40] So I'm not saying you [52:41] need to [52:42] find these [52:43] vehicles any [52:43] more than you might [52:44] think. [52:45] Good. [52:45] Um, most of them, [52:46] one of the reasons we have [52:47] n't been able to find one [52:48] for this winter is [52:49] because most of [52:50] them have to be [52:50] built from scratch. We didn't [52:52] want that [52:52] option. Therefore, it is very [52:54] difficult to find already [52:54] assembled options of the [52:56] size we need in our [52:57] price range. [52:58] So, those are the two best [52:59] options we [53:00] could find, and he [53:02] preferred RAM for [53:03] those two reasons. [53:04] Very good. Thank you. [53:09] Sir, yes, and I don't believe [53:11] the city has ever [53:12] waited for a routine [53:13] purchase that was [53:14] budgeted [53:15] at the beginning of the year to do a [53:17] month-long [53:22] study of [53:23] anything we buy, [53:24] unless it's an emergency [53:25] purchase. So I'm a little [53:27] offended by that [53:28] comment, [53:29] Councilwoman Demers. [53:31] Secondly, I believe it is [53:33] necessary. I know there are [53:36] some questions about [53:37] some of the costs and [53:38] things related to [53:40] that. And since I [53:41] ended up there, I think I [53:43] visited them [53:44] one week on the [53:45] weekend, they had [53:49] been working on it for a long time [53:50] because of the body rust and [53:51] everything else to [53:52] keep it in [53:53] working order. And [53:56] while further [54:00] research has shown [54:02] that the [54:03] vehicles may have [54:04] low mileage, [54:05] around 15-16 years, they are [54:06] probably mainly [54:08] used for [54:09] snow removal, which [54:11] results in [54:12] salt and everything else [54:13] . So the frames are probably pretty much [54:17] worn out now. [54:19] So this puts [54:20] our [54:21] employees and the [54:22] residents of our [54:23] city at risk. So while there may [54:29] be some flexibility [54:30] in exchange rates and [54:32] things like that [54:32] related to certain [54:34] things, I'm pretty [54:35] sure they've been [54:36] looking into this for a while [54:37] . Public Works is [54:43] convincing, I [54:47] mean, in the quality and [54:48] condition of our [54:49] equipment, and all over the [54:50] city they've [54:51] kept it in [54:52] working order for [54:53] much longer than is [54:55] reasonable, and everything else. [54:58] So I think that's [54:59] my [55:01] comment for now, Chairman [55:02] . [55:03] Something else? [55:08] I think my only [55:09] question is about the [55:10] cost of the exchange. Um, [55:12] 3500-4500, I mean, are [55:14] these trucks [55:16] even [55:17] usable? [55:18] I'm just wondering [55:20] if even if they're [55:21] just backups, are [55:22] they worth more, [55:23] staying in the [55:24] fleet as a [55:24] potential [55:25] backup, as a potential [55:27] use, you know, [55:28] for whatever. I [55:29] mean, 3500-4500 [55:31] is not that much [55:32] money. [55:33] Um, if [55:34] vehicles can still [55:35] be used for [55:37] any purpose. [55:38] I mean, I [55:38] think they're still [55:39] going, if that's the case, I [55:40] think they're still [55:41] going, but [55:42] how [55:43] useful are they really [55:44] for what [55:45] public [55:46] works needs them for. I don't think [55:47] they have [55:48] much [55:48] relevance to this. I [55:49] mean, if they [55:50] work, you can [55:51] use them [55:52] if you need to. [55:53] Again, yes, it's not that [55:54] my mileage isn't [55:55] very high, but the age [55:56] and wear and tear of these [55:57] vehicles [55:58] ...you can't [55:59] deviate much from the [56:00] mileage. And we [56:03] told Councilmember [56:04] Kelly that we have [56:04] tried to sell [56:06] such [56:07] vehicles privately in the [56:08] past. It just [56:11] doesn't work very well. [56:12] So, you know, it [56:13] seems like a low [56:14] price, but we thought [56:16] it was [56:16] fair. Good. [56:18] For what we give. [56:19] Good. Okay, I appreciate [56:21] that. Okay, so, um, [56:24] we have a motion and a [56:26] second one. This is approval [56:27] for the purchase of a [56:28] dump truck for streets [56:29] and roads. Uh, the total [56:32] cost or net [56:34] purchase price [56:35] would be [56:37] $124,758. So, everyone [56:40] who supports the [56:41] purchase approval, uh [56:42] , what's this? 2026 Ram 5500 [56:46] regular cab, [56:48] please mark as [56:50] "Me". "I". " [56:52] Closed". [56:52] Okay, thank you. Okay, [56:56] now we move on to the [56:57] ordinances and [56:58] resolutions. First, [57:00] we have Resolution 2026-22. [57:02] Mobile food [57:03] stations, food [57:04] vans. This is for [57:05] acceptance. Do we have [57:06] an offer? [57:07] I would like to make a [57:08] suggestion. [57:08] Good. [57:10] I would like to make a [57:11] motion to [57:13] reject Ordinance [57:14] 2026-22, mobile [57:15] food stands [57:17] , [57:19] food [57:19] trucks. Okay, do we [57:21] have a second opinion? [57:22] I will support. [57:23] Okay, we're discussing [57:24] . Are there any [57:25] discussions? [57:28] Uh, yeah, I'd [57:30] just like to understand [57:31] why you...what's your [57:32] logic and reasoning [57:34] for rejecting [57:35] Resolution 2026-22 in its [57:37] current form? [57:43] I have a few [57:43] comments I [57:44] can make if it's [57:46] appropriate, or if [57:46] anyone else wants to... [57:48] No. I'll hear [57:49] you out first. Sorry. Okay, [57:50] sorry, sir. Sorry. [57:52] Excuse me, sir. [57:53] Yes, you...I will answer the [57:55] question through the [57:56] council chairman. [57:56] Yes, it's fine [57:58] if you...if you [57:59] think... [58:00] So, uh...I think [58:08] this regulation is [58:09] overly [58:09] restrictive and [58:11] economically [58:11] stifling. I think [58:15] she's confused. [58:16] It duplicates in places. [58:19] She provides [58:20] recommendations in places [58:21] . This imposes [58:26] unreasonable [58:27] requirements that I [58:28] think our current [58:29] traditional restaurants [58:30] , ahem, may not even be able [58:32] to meet, and from [58:33] my initial [58:34] reading, some of [58:35] our existing [58:36] restaurants don't even [58:37] meet some [58:39] of these requirements. Hmm, if [58:45] we're going to move [58:46] forward with any [58:48] food truck ordinance, I think we [58:50] need to take a [58:51] phased approach. We [58:53] cannot have [58:54] protectionist [58:55] provisions. We must [58:56] keep the market [58:57] open and [58:57] fair. We [58:58] need to eliminate [58:59] duplication of [59:00] regulations. [59:02] We need clear and [59:04] simple requirements with [59:05] minimal [59:05] interpretation by [59:06] staff and [59:07] low [59:07] administrative [59:08] costs without the [59:09] need for [59:09] additional [59:10] staff. If we [59:12] are going to move [59:13] forward, we need [59:14] something much more [59:16] simplistic. And then we [59:17] can learn from the [59:18] first two years of [59:19] implementation. And if [59:21] we think we [59:22] need something more [59:23] reliable, then we [59:24] can do that. And [59:26] I have one [59:27] specific example. [59:31] Hmm, that's just a small [59:33] example. So, the [59:36] seating ordinance [59:39] states [59:43] that a mobile [59:44] food service establishment that [59:46] intends to [59:46] use [59:47] public sidewalks [59:49] and seating areas [59:50] must comply with the [59:53] sidewalk seating requirements [59:54] set forth in [59:55] City Code 112 [59:56] 37.1 B 1 D and must [59:57] comply with those [59:58] requirements. If [1:00:02] you look at the current [1:00:03] code, this [1:00:04] section states that [1:00:05] dining at [1:00:06] sidewalk tables must be [1:00:07] carried out in [1:00:08] compliance with the [1:00:09] following provisions. [1:00:12] Dining tables must [1:00:14] be located on [1:00:15] private property [1:00:16] adjacent to [1:00:17] the sidewalk, the [1:00:17] public right-of-way [1:00:18] in front of [1:00:19] the building, and facing the [1:00:21] road. It further [1:00:23] states that the [1:00:24] dining area at tables [1:00:25] must be [1:00:26] separated from the [1:00:27] public right-of-way by an [1:00:28] appropriate barrier. [1:00:31] Then it says that [1:00:33] service hours should [1:00:34] be limited to 10:00 a.m. to [1:00:36] 9:00 p.m. Here are some [1:00:38] examples. So [1:00:40] now we have this [1:00:41] other restriction on [1:00:42] hours that's kind of [1:00:43] hidden in the code that [1:00:45] you wouldn't know about [1:00:46] if you just read [1:00:47] the ordinance, because [1:00:48] the ordinance gives a broader [1:00:50] set of requirements on [1:00:51] hours of operation, and it [1:00:52] says here that if you [1:00:53] want to sit in, you can't [1:00:54] open [1:00:56] until 10:00. And then, I [1:00:58] always think it's [1:00:59] important to just [1:01:00] walk down the street. You [1:01:02] write a resolution, you [1:01:04] need to walk around [1:01:05] the district and [1:01:05] justify [1:01:06] the resolution. And again [1:01:11] , I'm going to [1:01:13] make a caveat [1:01:14] to this, but [1:01:15] from what I've [1:01:16] seen, we have, I [1:01:18] think, two [1:01:19] restaurants, one, I [1:01:20] believe, has [1:01:21] sidewalk tables. They are not [1:01:26] separated by a barrier. [1:01:28] Hmm, it's a public [1:01:29] facility, it's [1:01:30] on a [1:01:31] public [1:01:31] sidewalk. You can [1:01:34] only walk around it for about a [1:01:35] few feet. And [1:01:38] the hours listed say [1:01:39] they [1:01:40] open at 9:00 [1:01:42] AM. The code here [1:01:43] says you [1:01:44] shouldn't open [1:01:46] before 10:00 AM. Plus you [1:01:47] must have the right of [1:01:48] way. You should [1:01:50] have a barrier [1:01:51] separating your [1:01:52] tables. I just [1:01:53] want to say. This [1:01:56] resolution contains requirements [1:01:57] that, in my opinion, are [1:01:59] excessive. And some of [1:02:01] our traditional [1:02:03] restaurants, I think, [1:02:04] don't even [1:02:04] follow some [1:02:06] of them. So, if you have [1:02:09] requirements in [1:02:10] the code, you must [1:02:11] comply with them. If [1:02:12] you don't like what's [1:02:13] in the code, then [1:02:15] change it. But, [1:02:17] going back to the circle, [1:02:19] it's just too [1:02:20] burdensome. And I think [1:02:22] we need to [1:02:23] start from scratch. I [1:02:24] suggest maybe [1:02:26] holding a seminar, [1:02:27] something like that. Hmm, these are [1:02:29] my thoughts. Thank you. [1:02:32] Good. Gus, I can [1:02:34] speak. [1:02:35] What about you? [1:02:37] So, um, my main [1:02:38] problem with this [1:02:40] version is that [1:02:41] I agree with [1:02:42] Councilman [1:02:43] DeMotor on [1:02:44] a few of these [1:02:45] points. Some of them [1:02:47] have been changed. Which [1:02:49] brings me to [1:02:50] my main point: the [1:02:52] original version [1:02:53] was changed, [1:02:54] corrected, and [1:02:55] revised so many [1:02:56] times. Hmm, we don't [1:02:58] know what's what. It [1:03:00] got confusing. Hmm, [1:03:04] so I think we [1:03:05] need to look at [1:03:07] this together as a council and [1:03:08] write down what we [1:03:09] really need and [1:03:10] put it into the system, and [1:03:12] stop putting [1:03:13] it off and making so many [1:03:14] changes. Let's [1:03:19] implement something that [1:03:20] works for us, that [1:03:21] protects us, and then [1:03:23] we can change it [1:03:24] . Regarding Mr. [1:03:25] Demuro's point, you know, we [1:03:26] can implement it, [1:03:27] and then if we [1:03:28] need to change [1:03:29] something that's not working [1:03:30] properly, we [1:03:31] can do that too. [1:03:32] So, my main [1:03:33] point is that there are [1:03:35] too many versions. [1:03:36] We got confused in many of them [1:03:37] . There are a lot of [1:03:39] different additions, [1:03:40] red lines, [1:03:41] amendments, conclusions, [1:03:42] everything else, and I [1:03:43] think it's [1:03:44] lost in my head. [1:03:45] So, I [1:03:46] feel like we [1:03:47] need to start from [1:03:48] scratch and get what [1:03:49] we need in [1:03:50] books. I'm fine. Are you [1:03:56] okay? Of course. Hmm, [1:04:09] just a quick one, I [1:04:10] generally agree with [1:04:11] all the comments so [1:04:12] far. Hmm, I would [1:04:21] add the word "er, [1:04:22] targeted." I felt like [1:04:26] there was some [1:04:27] targeted... [1:04:39] Because more than I [1:04:40] understand the basic [1:04:41] concepts, some [1:04:43] implementation issues still [1:04:44] exist, which may [1:04:45] cause heartburn for [1:04:46] residents more than [1:04:48] businesses. We [1:04:50] need to find a [1:04:51] balance. Additionally, [1:04:54] some of the [1:04:55] implementation shortcomings on the part of [1:04:56] staff will be [1:04:57] compounded by [1:04:58] some of the requirements that [1:04:59] even minor [1:05:00] wording changes [1:05:01] will be better than [1:05:02] saying any [1:05:05] Maryland County Health Department for one [1:05:06] permit. This [1:05:09] opens it up to [1:05:11] everyone, not just [1:05:12] keeps [1:05:13] Carroll County. We need to [1:05:16] use [1:05:17] existing government [1:05:18] resources rather than [1:05:19] create new [1:05:20] responsibilities for [1:05:21] staff because [1:05:22] some of the [1:05:23] proposed [1:05:24] timelines were [1:05:24] terribly short [1:05:25] to be able to [1:05:26] obtain the information [1:05:28] needed for an application, [1:05:29] especially when it [1:05:30] was proposed: if [1:05:31] it is not done [1:05:32] within a very [1:05:33] short period of [1:05:34] time, it is automatically [1:05:35] approved. [1:05:40] Thus, in my opinion, [1:05:41] we are creating certain [1:05:42] problems in the [1:05:43] future. I can't [1:05:44] disagree that [1:05:45] we need to [1:05:46] look at this [1:05:47] issue, and we can [1:05:48] change it, but [1:05:49] let's try to [1:05:50] minimize changes [1:05:51] later by allowing [1:05:53] some potential [1:05:54] flexibility with city [1:05:55] staff and other [1:05:56] things. And there were some [1:05:58] concerns that [1:05:59] the application was [1:06:00] too rigid, which [1:06:01] included that if [1:06:02] we needed to [1:06:04] change it, we would have to [1:06:06] reopen the ordinance [1:06:07] just to simply [1:06:08] change one word. [1:06:09] Good things of this [1:06:10] nature, just [1:06:11] little things to [1:06:12] implement for [1:06:13] greater implementation. [1:06:15] Um, but I can agree with many of the most [1:06:16] basic [1:06:17] concepts that were [1:06:19] added to it [1:06:20] . [1:06:21] Maybe just sit down [1:06:23] together and work out [1:06:24] some minor [1:06:25] flexibilities. I [1:06:27] mean, I, I, I'm flexible. [1:06:29] I agree with [1:06:29] nonpartisanship in [1:06:30] economics and things of [1:06:32] that nature, but [1:06:33] we can't lose [1:06:34] sight of the [1:06:35] potential [1:06:36] problems or [1:06:39] regulations that [1:06:40] people can drive through, [1:06:42] excuse me, in a [1:06:43] food truck to, uh, [1:06:45] get ahead quickly or [1:06:46] something. There is a good remedy [1:06:48] for this. I think [1:06:51] we're 90-90% on it. And [1:06:55] thank you to Councilor Evans, [1:06:56] Kelly, and Demuda for [1:06:57] adding their [1:06:58] suggestions to this. [1:07:01] It brought us closer. And [1:07:02] thank you, Tom, for [1:07:03] handling all the [1:07:04] spelling changes. [1:07:06] You know, Tom, I [1:07:07] actually think that's how it's going to go [1:07:09] , [1:07:10] judging from what I [1:07:11] see. Um, for me, this [1:07:12] process was just [1:07:13] messy. Hmm, that's [1:07:15] too messy. This is [1:07:16] unclean, and this is not the [1:07:17] way I [1:07:18] think this council [1:07:19] has been operating. At least [1:07:21] for the past [1:07:22] few years. Um, [1:07:23] unfortunately, I'm going to [1:07:24] do this, uh, because of the [1:07:25] actual, uh, creation of [1:07:27] legislation, I don't [1:07:28] have a say in the [1:07:29] process. But, uh [1:07:31] , I'll give you some advice, [1:07:32] mostly because as the [1:07:33] chairman of the council, right now I [1:07:35] feel like there are [1:07:36] too many chiefs and [1:07:37] not enough [1:07:38] Indians. Each of [1:07:39] you worked [1:07:40] in isolation, coming up with [1:07:41] ideas, and then just [1:07:42] crossing something out and [1:07:44] adding, and this, and that. And [1:07:48] whoever manages it [1:07:50] gets feedback from the [1:07:51] board, puts it into a [1:07:52] form, and then submits it. [1:07:55] But now it looks like [1:07:56] you, it looks like you, and I [1:07:57] thought it was you. [1:08:00] Work together. [1:08:03] Because it was the [1:08:03] longest process [1:08:04] for what was supposed to [1:08:06] be a simple [1:08:06] resolution that I have ever [1:08:08] seen. [1:08:10] So stop [1:08:11] working on your own [1:08:12] . Stop [1:08:13] trying to manage [1:08:14] everything yourself. [1:08:16] Work together without a [1:08:17] quorum in the back [1:08:18] . You know, and [1:08:21] then bring [1:08:22] something [1:08:22] suitable to the meeting that we [1:08:23] can send to the [1:08:25] planning commission, [1:08:26] get feedback, and [1:08:27] then vote on [1:08:28] and move on. It [1:08:29] 's been almost a year, and [1:08:31] honestly, I'm [1:08:32] tired of talking about it [1:08:33] . So I don't [1:08:34] know if it's you, or [1:08:36] all of you, deal with [1:08:37] it. But it's too much, [1:08:40] and it's messy, so I'm [1:08:41] glad that, you know, [1:08:42] Councilor DeMotor, I'm [1:08:44] glad that you [1:08:44] came forward with this, [1:08:46] because, I'll be honest with [1:08:47] you, if it had gone [1:08:48] any other way, I would [1:08:50] n't have signed it. [1:08:51] Because it's a mess. [1:08:52] I'll put it there. I [1:08:54] can lead [1:08:54] the rewrite, and [1:08:55] I'm going to put [1:08:56] it out there for you [1:08:57] guys to figure out on your [1:08:58] own. [1:08:59] Of course. [1:08:59] And then, and then we will [1:09:01] understand, sir. [1:09:02] So [1:09:04] there is no further discussion now. [1:09:05] We have a motion [1:09:06] to reject or not [1:09:08] adopt Ordinance [1:09:10] 2026-22 regarding MFUs and [1:09:11] food trucks. Hmm, [1:09:13] everyone who supports [1:09:15] the rejection of [1:09:16] Resolution 2026-22, [1:09:17] please mark it with [1:09:19] "I do." "I". " [1:09:21] Against"? Okay, thanks, [1:09:22] guys. I think this is the [1:09:23] right decision. [1:09:25] Next, we have Resolution [1:09:27] 2026-24. This is a transfer of [1:09:28] real estate, [1:09:29] i.e., [1:09:30] Straw's property. She is up for [1:09:31] adoption. Do you [1:09:32] want to make [1:09:33] a suggestion? [1:09:34] I will make a motion [1:09:35] to approve the [1:09:36] transfer of [1:09:37] real estate, [1:09:38] i.e. the [1:09:39] Straw property, for the years 2026-24. [1:09:40] Okay, we have a second [1:09:41] . [1:09:41] I will support. [1:09:42] Okay, is there any [1:09:43] discussion? [1:09:45] Uh, I could say [1:09:47] it's related to the [1:09:47] ring road, [1:09:49] but it's more of a [1:09:49] clarification [1:09:50] ordinance issued to [1:09:51] Straw by the owners of the [1:09:52] Straw property. [1:09:56] Maybe Barney can, [1:09:57] in order not to pressure you, [1:09:58] explain it a little [1:09:59] better, because I know it has [1:10:01] more to do with [1:10:02] mutual setbacks [1:10:03] and aligning [1:10:05] their property boundaries [1:10:06] and so on. I think you [1:10:07] could probably [1:10:08] explain it better [1:10:09] than I could. [1:10:11] Of course. So, it's an [1:10:13] exchange. When you [1:10:17] look at the [1:10:18] real estate, you'll [1:10:19] see that, um, the way [1:10:20] Rising [1:10:21] Ridge Road was relocated, [1:10:23] um, for the loop, created a [1:10:24] narrow strip that [1:10:25] the city would have to [1:10:26] service. [1:10:30] At the same time, Straw [1:10:31] also has a very long, [1:10:32] narrow section that is [1:10:34] now behind a, [1:10:35] um, depression that would be harder for them [1:10:37] to maintain. So it makes [1:10:40] sense [1:10:41] to reconcile things somehow. The exchange, [1:10:44] ahem, is not an equal [1:10:45] distribution of, ahem, [1:10:46] square feet. [1:10:50] So, I think that's the [1:10:51] main reason for the, um, [1:10:52] difference in cost. [1:10:54] Good. [1:10:55] And thank you, Barney. [1:10:59] And just to [1:11:00] clarify, there's, um, a [1:11:01] cash exchange for [1:11:02] this of about or [1:11:03] within six thousand [1:11:05] dollars, correct, [1:11:06] Tom? [1:11:09] For the purchase of part of the [1:11:11] Straw property. [1:11:13] The reason you [1:11:14] need this [1:11:15] ordinance is [1:11:16] because the city is also [1:11:17] transferring property. It's [1:11:19] an exchange, if you will. Both the [1:11:20] state code and [1:11:22] therefore our statute [1:11:23] require that this be [1:11:24] done by ordinance [1:11:25] with public [1:11:26] hearings, which [1:11:27] apparently took place [1:11:28] today. [1:11:29] Yes. Good. Perfectly. [1:11:31] Thank you. That's all for now. [1:11:32] Chairman, thank you. Is there [1:11:34] anyone else? [1:11:35] I have a question. [1:11:36] Of course. [1:11:37] So, there are two questions. [1:11:38] First, is this on [1:11:43] equal terms, caring [1:11:44] for our citizens, [1:11:45] or is this what the [1:11:47] Straws want? This is what [1:11:49] they asked for. [1:11:50] Yes. Yes, yes. They are [1:11:52] very interested in [1:11:53] this. Yes. [1:11:53] Good. And then, and I'm [1:11:55] just asking [1:11:56] questions because I'm a [1:11:57] council member and I'm here to [1:11:58] represent my [1:11:59] constituents, so I have the [1:12:00] right to ask [1:12:01] questions. Um, was this [1:12:04] something that could have been [1:12:05] foreseen before [1:12:06] we built the [1:12:08] roundabout, [1:12:09] or did it only become apparent [1:12:10] after the fact? [1:12:13] Like, is this something [1:12:14] we should have [1:12:16] known before [1:12:17] construction started in [1:12:18] terms of what [1:12:19] parts of the pie and [1:12:20] property would be [1:12:21] cut and what parts wouldn't, [1:12:22] or, you know, that's my [1:12:23] question. [1:12:26] Should it have been [1:12:27] done in advance? [1:12:29] This is what the Straws [1:12:30] expressed, uh, as [1:12:31] their preference. Hmm, [1:12:33] should this have been done [1:12:35] ? Not necessarily, uh, [1:12:36] but it makes sense. So [1:12:38] they brought it to [1:12:39] our attention and we [1:12:41] agreed that it made [1:12:42] sense. So, this is the path [1:12:44] we took. [1:12:46] Good. And a little [1:12:49] remark, uh, [1:12:50] you know, well, I'll make a [1:12:52] remark because I [1:12:53] see it. The third [1:12:54] statement " [1:12:55] given that", where it [1:12:56] says: "Given the [1:12:57] proposed [1:12:58] roundabout", [1:12:59] in my opinion, should have been [1:13:00] written " [1:13:01] built roundabout", [1:13:02] because it has already [1:13:03] been built. But this [1:13:06] statement is " [1:13:06] given", therefore. [1:13:11] Everywhere you say " [1:13:12] built". Good. [1:13:17] Any further [1:13:18] discussions? We have a [1:13:21] second proposal, uh [1:13:22] , regarding the acceptance of [1:13:23] the transfer of real [1:13:24] estate, uh, the [1:13:26] Straw property. Uh, everyone who is "in favor [1:13:27] ", please [1:13:28] mark yourself by saying [1:13:30] "I do." " [1:13:30] I". " [1:13:31] Against"? Okay, and the [1:13:32] last resolution, uh [1:13:34] , resolution 2026-27. [1:13:36] It aims to [1:13:37] clarify that [1:13:37] private parks in the [1:13:38] R1 zone should be a [1:13:39] special exception [1:13:40] , not an exercise of [1:13:41] right. This is for [1:13:42] presentation and [1:13:43] referral to the [1:13:43] planning commission. Do [1:13:45] we have a proposal [1:13:46] to present? [1:13:47] I would like to propose [1:13:49] that [1:13:50] Ordinance [1:13:52] 2026-27 be enacted to [1:13:53] amend the articles and [1:13:55] sections of Chapter 112 entitled [1:13:56] "Zoning", [1:13:58] Article 4 entitled " [1:13:59] Regulations [1:14:01] Governing Residential [1:14:02] Districts", and Section 112-23 [1:14:04] entitled "R1 District". [1:14:07] Okay, do we have a second [1:14:09] ? [1:14:09] I will support. [1:14:10] Okay, this will be [1:14:11] forwarded to the [1:14:12] planning commission. Uh, we have [1:14:13] no unfinished [1:14:14] business, and we don't have a [1:14:16] closed session. [1:14:17] So, for now, uh, I'll [1:14:18] consider the motion [1:14:20] to postpone. [1:14:21] I will make a motion [1:14:22] to postpone [1:14:23] earlier than usual [1:14:24] . Thank you, Mr. [1:14:25] Chairman. Do [1:14:27] we have a second? [1:14:28] I will support. [1:14:29] Okay, everyone who [1:14:29] supports [1:14:30] the transfer, [1:14:31] please mark it by [1:14:32] saying "Me, [1:14:32] Me." [1:14:33] Nobody is in favor.