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Let me know when you're ready.

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Looking at my computer clocks says 5.59.

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Um, he's not here tonight, I haven't got enough things to say, so, are you ready?

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Almost.

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All right, let me call to order the Mount Doris City Council budget workshop for August 24,

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2026.

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please rise for a moment of silence and pledge allegiance to

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the United States of America

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and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

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Roll call please.

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Council Member Robson.

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Here.

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Council Member Dawson.

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Here.

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Council Member Cahill.

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Here.

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Council Member Walker.

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Council Member Brandt.

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Vice Mayor Cattado.

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Mayor Harmonch.

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All right.

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Mayor, Council, thank you. Good afternoon, evening. This workshop consolidates the operating

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personnel and capital and the fund information from the previous workshops this spring and

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summer. As we noted in our staff report, because the fiscal year 2026-27 budget would be

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adopted before the November election and the future of fiscal impacts remain uncertain.

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Staff recommends maintaining a conservative budget posture. This includes protecting

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our reserves, carefully evaluating as we did any new personnel, which we aren't recommending

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at this budget, and preserving flexibility to respond to future revenue changes. So

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So, this budget reflects that and compiled with the documents, 66 pages, Matt.

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I'm sorry.

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I'm trying to think.

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I think last count we were on the documents.

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I'll just turn it over to Matt and go through the PowerPoint.

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We did attach the proposed final budget document that I just spoke about.

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Also today there was some further background information on budget summaries for you

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and the itemized list as well was emailed out today.

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But the crux of that, the workshop is the final report.

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And then the PowerPoint, Matt, will go through all

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of the various funds and where we're at, Matt.

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Yes, good evening.

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So this will be the, this is the last budget workshop.

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There's a lot of summaries putting everything together

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and showing the total plan for the budget next year.

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We do have, I want to open up with saying what we are still missing from the budget,

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which is not most, not much, this budget is 99% done.

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A couple, a few things we are missing though is we're missing the state revenue sharing

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revenues, such as the discretionary totals, the local option tax, telecommunications state,

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sales tax. We're missing the property insurance numbers still and we the way

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that I put the bond in the Northeast CRA fund so far is incorrect. We got a lot of

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new information from the the resolution and the official paperwork so we'll be

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essentially I'll get into it when we get to the Northeast CRA but we'll be

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moving the money out of the Northeast CRA that fund will go down

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roughly $16 million. It's a pretty big, pretty big jump. So I'll touch on that

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later, but for the most part this budget is set. Everything is balanced. We're

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good to go. It's really just about the final touches.

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All right, so overview of

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this this workshop. We have the general fund breakdown. We have a listing of

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grants. We have a position budgeting. We have the special revenue summary. We

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have the enterprise fund summary, the capital outlay summary, and the

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capital improvement summary, and then we touch on the next steps of the process.

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So total budget overall.

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So we're sitting here at $126,161,110.

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This is a year-over-year difference of 7% decrease, however there is one thing I'm hoping no

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one caught it, but there is one thing on here it's a little misleading.

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I have asterisks next to Northeast CRA and the property casualty insurance.

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I put those to show that they weren't final.

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And then I used the same marker on the bottom to say,

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comparing to the fiscal year 2025-26 tentative budget,

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they're two different disclaimers.

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The whole thing is compared to the 25-26 tentative budget.

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I put those assets on those two funds to show,

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to bring up the fact that they were not complete.

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But everything, this is a total comparison to where we were

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on September 3rd, I think it was last year,

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which we're almost there this year, so it's almost a one-for-one comparison.

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So jumping into the general fund revenues, it looks like they were up roughly 5.6%,

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and again, this is still waiting on a certain amount of revenues from the state.

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I would expect them to go up slightly. I wouldn't expect major increases.

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I have them budgeted at the same number, so it still could go up a little slightly,

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but I wouldn't expect anything major.

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The big differences here are fines and forfeitures.

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We have a $255,000 difference.

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We have the ROI pilot as a difference of $288,000 from the three funds that contribute to that.

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The indirect allocations, the difference of $149,000.

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And then the ad valorem at a $6.3 millidry was a difference of $1.2 million.

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So that's totaling a $1.9 million difference from last year.

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When you consider the stuff that went down, such as the Intergovernmental went down $480,000,

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the License Permits and Fees went down almost $300,000,

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and the Intergovernmental Transfers went down $424,000.

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It results in a roughly $1 million increase.

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This is the breakdown on how the revenues are shared within the fund based on the category.

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As you can see, the Advilorum is the majority.

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We have the sales and use tax coming in next at 14%.

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The indirect cost allocation at 12%.

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The ROI at 11%.

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Intergovernmental at 4%, almost 5%.

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Transfers at 3%.

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Charges of service at 3.7%.

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License, ferments, and fees at 3.93%.

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The pilot at 3%.

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The miscellaneous at almost 1%.

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And the finance and forperatures at 1%.

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And this equals the total amount of $35,334,563.

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This is the general fund's revenues that

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balances completely with the expenditures

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and barring the update of the revenue numbers

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and the general fund's portion of the property insurance

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funds.

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I don't suspect a lot of changes at this point.

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This is pretty much set in stone.

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We're moving on with this so far.

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Is there any questions or anything?

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Yeah, okay.

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All right, so just a-

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Do they all have the same thing?

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It's just the final numbers.

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Yes, yes.

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Yeah, it just keeps getting more complete every time we- yeah.

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This is just a brief history

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of the indirect cost allocation.

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I just wanted to show the history of it.

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I'd like to point out that- so these are the numbers

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that come from these individual funds to the general fund

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for the services the general fund provides.

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City attorney, HR, finance, these funds

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don't have their own version of it.

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They use the general fund, so therefore we

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use a model that weighs all sorts of different allocation

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factors, and it produces these numbers.

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In fiscal 21-22, we were at a total of $4.3 million.

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And as you can see, it dipped down,

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and it's slowly gone back up due to the various allocation

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addition factors, adding new buildings, inflation, and new assets, more employees, et cetera.

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And now we're at $4.3 million again.

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So over a five to six-year span, it is pretty much evened out.

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So I think it's necessary to point out that you wouldn't expect this to be the same

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number five years later with how much the city has grown and everything.

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So we have a breakdown of the general fund expenditures here by category.

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The personnel services is 22,123,062% of the general fund.

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Operating supplies are 8,315,023% of the general fund.

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The capital outlay is 1,062,003%.

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Other uses, which includes the tax increment payments for the Northeast CRA

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and their downtown CRA is $3,094,895.

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We have grants in aid at $75,000.

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We have our property insurance,

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which this number has a 5% buffer on the number

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from last year because we don't know it yet.

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So it's $463,000, but that very well could change,

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hopefully down.

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And then debt payments is $198,000

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and that's the two bonds we have

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for the public's works buildings.

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Why isn't the property insurance dollars coming in?

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I don't know. We're just waiting on them to come in.

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Yeah, but it is completely separate operation.

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It should be any day now though.

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We'll definitely have them before the final budgets,

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and I'll update everybody on what those ended up being.

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So the personnel services, it does include a 3%,

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annual raise, the, do I have it?

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I don't have it on me.

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This, this, so because of the, I don't have the exact number on me,

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I apologize, but because of us trimming down to general fund employees,

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we, in general fund FTEs, we moved multiple employees out of the

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public work sector and into the stormwater.

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we were able to give the 3% raises and I believe this went up. I might be saying

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a number that's too small, forgive me, but I think it went up by like $20,000.

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Like it was not a big impact because we made moves to decrease it originally.

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So I'll get that final number for you, but the number from last year, but it

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was extremely close to this number. And I meant to write that down. I apologize,

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I don't have it. Matt, yes. I'm sorry. It was a study done, I don't know, a few

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months ago. I guess a rate study for the employees. Where we at with that? Is that

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incorporated in this or is that totally different? No. It was a compensation

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study. We're still evaluating it and given with the uncertainty in November,

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we'll kickstart that again depending on the outcome. Okay, so no action has been

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taken? No take-alone. Has the study been completed? Partly 99%. Okay, thank

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Thank you, sir.

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Excuse me, Matt.

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Yes, sir.

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As far as the 3% annual raise for employees,

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does that include benefits or is that just salary?

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It's just salary, but it affects the FICA expenses.

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It affects the retirement expenses.

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It expects the pension expenses.

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So some of the aspects of the salaries

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of the benefits are a set amount depending on however much you make, but the ones that

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are percentage-based, it would inevitably bring them up as well, and it is included in that.

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The totality of the personnel services for the general fund is the $22 million number.

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We have them broken down by divisions here.

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We have legislative and executive at 1.1 million or 3% of the general fund budget.

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We have support services at 4.6 million or 13% of the budget.

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We have parks and rec at 4.7 million dollars or 13% of the budget.

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The library at 1.17 million or 3% of the budget.

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Planning development at 1.3 million or 3.9%.

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Law enforcement at 8.3 million dollars or 23.56%.

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Fire protection at 5.3 million dollars, 15% of the budget.

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budget, public works at $3 million and 8.89% of the budget, and then the other general government

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which houses things such as the capital budget and the tax increment payments for the North

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East CRA at $5.4 million, almost $5.5 million, or 15% of the budget.

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Do we have any questions about if we want to dive in further in any of this, or this

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This is the individual department's broken down by category.

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I mean the only things and the problem is I don't see the details of the funds but we've

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got a couple things coming up the new one-way streets which I imagine will need revamping

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All right, so we're going to go ahead and get our lights to accommodate, I mean, to get

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that fixed so they're timed and they're, I mean, the flow through downtown we may even

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need a new set of lights on maybe Tremaine or Alexander or something, not Alexander, Baker,

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just to get the flow going, but I don't know if anyone's looking in that or we got anything

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set aside.

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Yeah, the traffic signals you were referring to, the traffic lights, I mean, you can

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you can get a green light at Donnelly and there's a red light at Alexander and

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I mean they're not timed and I just think I mean it's something we need to

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look at while we're getting the new streets in place I didn't need yeah I

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mean yeah we had we had not scope that as a project item but you bring it up

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we can I mean I can see it we need to address that I don't know if we've

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got it anywhere in the budget because of the change in the one ways.

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I understand.

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And the only other kind of item which I think we're sitting on are these seats here.

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I don't know if, I mean it's a little bit embarrassing when we got people coming out.

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You know I priced them at IKEA. They're 200 bucks. I've been sitting at a 200-buck chair for 10 years now

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So I don't know you know between parks and rec with the parks and rec board and that this board and that board

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No, I mean, I mean under office supplies or something. We should be able to spread that out

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You want to put that in? Yeah, I'm just

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Is that is that a consensus?

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I'm just looking for, you know, $2,000 chairs, I'm just looking for something that looks okay.

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Is that a consensus, a council?

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Let's go about it.

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It is from my perspective.

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I mentioned this a long time ago.

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There's code enforcement board.

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I mean, everyone's in here now.

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So everyone could contribute kind of a little bit under office supplies.

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Actually, that's a pretty good deal.

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So our butts have gotten all the use we can get over 20 years, or 10 years.

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That's a pretty good job.

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Something that was bothering me in the kind of general fund.

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We're also looking at the chairs in the audience.

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The cushions are on there.

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If we could have repository of new cushions as well,

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with the experience that would be, rather than replacing those,

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those could be reupholstered.

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But I mean, the use of this space is, I mean, everybody's using it, so I mean, I know you're holding meetings in here too, so just something to think about.

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Andrew.

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So I'm going to go back a slide. I just looked it up on last year's numbers, and the last year personnel services were $22 million and $5,000, so it's roughly $117,000.

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so I was a little off, but I knew it was much smaller than I had imagined it was going

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to be because of the changes we had made to moving the employees out of the general fund

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to the stormwater, to their proper location, and then we did some inside efficiencies

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and we got rid of two FTEs so far this year.

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So just wanted to point that out because that's usually a much higher number based

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on the 3% raise number.

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Matt, when you say you got rid of two FTEs, positions or bodies?

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Unfilled.

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Okay.

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Yep.

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Yep.

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We just, you know, people assumed roles and we got more efficient and decided to get rid

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of the FTE.

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They were unfilled at the time.

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All right.

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Yep.

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All right.

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So moving forward to the grant list, so we have,

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we have about 30 grants here.

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This is, we have the year on here, they're not all this year.

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I wanted to break these down and just show that we are trying to do everything we can to seek alternative funding.

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Some of these have matching, some of these are straight up grant money.

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Some of them have certain factors that you have to keep with the life of the item that they're giving you and stuff like that.

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But, so I'm going to skip these next two.

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The last one has a breakdown here where it's showing the full, whether it be enterprise funds or the general fund department.

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I did want to point out that I included the 23 million economic development from the county.

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That's going to skew the number a lot, but it's a big win, so I wanted to definitely put that in there.

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But as you can see, we're actively seeking out alternative funding sources so we can put as little as possible on the general fund and tax dollars or the funds that rely on charges of services.

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There's water waste water in here.

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We have roughly $24 million.

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A large portion of that is for the $100 million plant coming up, so that's going to help a ton.

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We have stormwater on here.

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So, it's not just about tax dollars, it's any expense we're already going to have we're

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looking for ways to pay for that are not out of the city's general fund or enterprise

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fund budgets.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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Go ahead.

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I want to express my appreciation for this.

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Look at those numbers, total of 55 million for the year.

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Well, it's three years, but yes.

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Three years.

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Okay 55 million. Think of the benefit for the taxpayers, what we've done in doing that,

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getting grants to support our city services that they want. And that's very

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impressive, and I think that'll be some way to let the public know the right time

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in the right place. I think I think that's very impressive. I'm glad it's

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there. It looks good to me.

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Thank you.

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Yes, sir.

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First of all, let me, I guess, echo that.

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Sort of similar to Misty's presentation last week.

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It's a great compilation here

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and gives us pretty good ideas to, you know,

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some of the projects that we certainly heard about all of them,

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but sometimes we tend to forget some of them.

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I think the, by the way,

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the County Transportation Corridor grant,

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If it does say applied for, and my question is, I believe the County Commissioner's motion was $23.5 million to purchase the corridor, and so that's really not so much applied for.

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I mean, hopefully that's a pretty much given at this point in time. They are going to be applying for the build grant though, which is a similar amount, as you're probably aware, and that's going to be for the construction.

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And so my question there is, it does say applied for in that left-hand column, does this apply to the decision of the commissioners or does it apply to the build application?

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So I left that in applied for because to my knowledge it's dependent on what happens in November.

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So from what I picked up on it is that if the November vote, if they do not choose to vote yes on the property tax issue, then the money will go to this.

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If they do vote yes, then the money will not, or there's a much smaller chance of that.

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So from what I saw, it wasn't 100% given.

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I don't know that reevaluated on the November, so it's an asterisk.

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Yeah, so I didn't want to say it's 100%.

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There's a high probability, but I didn't want to say it's 100%.

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And it does skew the table, but that's really a county program.

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I know what you're trying to do is we're a partner with Tavares and Lake County

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and benefiting from it.

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It's the corridor, but keep in mind a little asterisk on that.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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I think there may be some question there.

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I know I've talked to Misty about that, that it strikes me that the $50 million that was

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voted by the taxpayers, that's already a done deal.

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And so they were simply allocating, they weren't voting to spend the money, it's

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going to be spent.

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They were simply allocating $23.5 million for the corridor, but anyway that's another

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issue.

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I do have a question about though where you do have the house built into the budget because

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you've got completed works, you've got awarded, and you've got applied.

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The amounts for applied, which I'm assuming means they haven't been awarded, do those

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get added into the budget as far as incoming revenue?

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It depends if, okay, so let's use an example on here, the Fourth Avenue Docks right in the

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middle of the screen.

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This is applied.

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It's a $1.5 million amount.

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We do not have this project in the budget.

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So therefore, if we get it, if we get this grant, we'll have to put the project in

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the budget in a timely manner in order to receive this money.

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So that will come from our matching and we'll see how do we can fund our match

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and we'll reassess at that time.

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Right.

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But so some of them, yes, some of them, no, some of them have already, the expenses already

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happened, we've already received the money, it's good to go, it's been in the past, but

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so it depends on each individual item is different.

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So if you look at the next item right after 4th Avenue Docks, you've got Elizabeth Evans

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Park.

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Again, 1.5 million amount, 1.5 million match, but it does say that's awarded.

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So that is money that we're counting on in the budget, is that correct?

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That is money that we're counting on in the budget once we put the project in the budget.

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That's the next step of the example I just gave.

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Now we have to put that project in the budget and then we will be able to move forward with the grants.

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But we do have the 1.5 million match for the Elizabeth Evans Park.

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We do not.

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Not at this point, even though it's been awarded.

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So I believe it's not in the general fund for this year because we projected future, but if we were to move forward almost a hundred percent of our match would come from park impact anyways because of the way the project would be laid out.

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Okay.

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What about the, by the way, about the Fourth Avenue Docks? Should we be awarded that?

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What does the match come for?

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Again, depending on the size of the footprint of what we decide to build, if it's expanded, we could use Park Impact again.

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Otherwise it would be Future Year General. It wouldn't be this year because we'd be waiting until next year to be awarded for that one anyways.

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Okay. Alright, thanks.

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So

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these are scenarios of doing the due diligence, having the money, 50% of the money set aside and if we can come up with the rest of it and the council agrees and then we'll get into the budget and move forward with it.

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But this is just doing our due diligence.

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Okay.

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Yeah, good luck.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Matt, I think Councilman Dalton had a question.

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Yeah, we really wasn't that important.

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The $23 million is actually more, it's $27 million, because they have additional grant

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money they got from the state.

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Oh, okay.

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Well, that's true, the three and a half.

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And don't forget Urban Forestry with Mark Miller on it.

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Yeah.

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He's an offer on our grant trees.

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The Urban Forestry number changes, like I can't keep up with it.

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By the time I put this presentation in, it was changed.

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Yeah, Mr. Miller, that's a great job.

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And Matt, this return on the investment as far as applying for grants and what it calls

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to have the grant writer in place, we spoke about a month or so ago, and this is evident

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that the return on the investment is well worth it, so thanks for showing us.

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I agree.

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Thank you.

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All right.

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Any more grant questions?

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All right.

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Let's move on to position budgeting.

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As you can see, we got some requests, but we chose the recommendations at this time.

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Is that final, Vince?

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Yes, it is, okay.

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Is it final, final?

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Make a motion.

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Well, I'm just, I just want to make sure.

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I mean, certainly none of us know what Amendment 3, what's going to happen with Amendment 3.

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but with the resource and rec center potentially opening in a few weeks just

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want to make sure that we're ahead of it and if Troy do you want to help Mr. Walker

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I'm sorry I didn't mean to interrupt. No you didn't interrupt. I'm trying to gather staff quickly.

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You're fine thank you. And is there a specific question? I'm just I guess

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Maybe it would be more befitting for you to answer, Troy, anyway.

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Are you at a point today where you can efficiently operate the center?

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I believe so because the adjustments we've made that I talked to you about and that I got approved through Vince.

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I think we are for this year.

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Moving forward, we'll see.

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Okay.

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And I think I can revisit that, hopefully, I mean, depending on how that happens.

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We brought in some new staff that he's been training, but he's also bringing in some of

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the existing staff over to the Nathaniel Bell Recreation Center.

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Okay.

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It's final, final.

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Thank you, sir.

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Thank you, Troy.

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I appreciate it.

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All right.

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So changing gears from the general fund will move on to the special revenue funds.

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This is the special revenue funds, the revenues that we, the funds we have set up with

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revenues that are highly restricted have to be used in a certain manner.

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So we'll start out with discretionary sales tax.

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This is the same number as last year because we have not received this number yet, but it's $2,080,000 at 6.9% of the total.

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And we have the CRA at $2,828,000.

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9.42 percent. The Northeast CRA, so this is the one that's definitely going to change.

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The way this is laid out here is this is roughly a $3.4 million budget with a $16 million debt proceeds and expense to pay the debt off.

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However, we found in the language of the bond paperwork that we have to create a special fund for it.

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So at this time we think it's it I feel like it changes every day

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but at this time we think that it'll be moved out of there there will be

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Instead of a the fund 200 debt service fund. They'll be most likely a fund 201 debt service fund another debt service fund

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It'll be the same as I said up as our fire assessment bond

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And we'll have that fund dedicated strictly to this bond the payments that will go in and out of it every year

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and that's that. So there'll be a transfer from the Northeast CRA every year to pay the bond fee.

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So this year we're going to have a $16 million, roughly $16 million one-time payment, but until

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the life of the CRA then it'll be a $1.1, $1.2-ish million payment until 2049 for that.

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Has Mount Dore's rating changed at all from the last time?

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Yes, it went up.

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Good, yep.

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Definitely good.

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So yeah, so that's going to be roughly $3.45 million.

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I think it's an even $16 million in this budget.

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Again, we have not got the final paperwork for that,

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so I don't know the exact payment,

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but it's expected to be right around $16 million.

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It depends on fees and it's just a question of where it resides exactly exactly so like now I will say though that

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There's potential for this 16 million to show up twice because of transfers

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So when you transfer 16 million out, it's an expense in one fund

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It's a revenue in another fund which means it's going to show up in twice

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It's supposed to be 32 million, but it's actually going to only be 16 million dollars

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So that can get a little confusing at time

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But once we figure that out, I'll explain exactly where that is in the budget.

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So right now it's set at 19.4 at 64 percent, but that's highly skewed.

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It should be roughly 3.4.

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The building department at $2 million in $8,000, $2 million in $8,000,

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sitting roughly 6, 7 percent, place impact fees at 242,

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fire impact fees at 140,000, library impact fees

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at $300,000, parks impact fees at $500,000, and these impact fees here, these are estimates.

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Sometimes it depends when things hit the tax roll if a project ever gets completed.

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Many different factors, so we use these dollars when we can.

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They can only pay for new things and then cannot pay for the maintenance of those things

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after they're built.

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So this is an example of trying to use these restricted funds strategically.

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However, we always have to keep in mind that whatever we spend them on,

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somebody else will have to pay for the maintenance of the items.

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So we have the fire assessment fee at 2.3 million or 7.91%,

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and then we have the cemetery at 80,000, 0.3% there.

463
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,280
So total of the special revenue funds is 30 million,

464
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:41,160
but that'll end up being roughly 14-15-ish when it's all said and done.

465
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,160
Is there any questions anyone?

466
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:48,360
Just a quick question on the impact fees.

467
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:52,020
So if you don't use them, they just go into reserve until you then use them.

468
00:33:52,020 --> 00:33:53,840
So they can just keep rolling over here over here.

469
00:33:55,000 --> 00:34:03,220
Is that 14 or 15% comparison to previous years taking out the North East CRA?

470
00:34:03,220 --> 00:34:06,320
Is that typical from impact fees?

471
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:09,500
What do you mean, I'm sorry?

472
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,880
Didn't you mean you summarized what you just said about the impact fees?

473
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:17,500
Oh, you were talking about the total, what I was saying, I was talking about the previous

474
00:34:17,500 --> 00:34:17,900
years.

475
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:23,040
Yeah, yeah, so I was just mentioning that because we're going to take the $16 million

476
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:26,740
out of the Northeast CRA, so that total's not actually going to be $30 million, it's

477
00:34:26,740 --> 00:34:27,500
going to go way down.

478
00:34:27,620 --> 00:34:28,660
$14 something, you see?

479
00:34:28,780 --> 00:34:29,140
Yes.

480
00:34:29,140 --> 00:34:34,300
Is that typical in prior years for impact?

481
00:34:35,100 --> 00:34:36,280
Oh, okay, I see what you're saying.

482
00:34:36,460 --> 00:34:38,880
Yes, most of these funds are extremely similar.

483
00:34:38,980 --> 00:34:41,660
The only one that has changed throughout the years is the Northeast CRA,

484
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:43,840
really, because of the Resource Center project.

485
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:45,900
It's gone way up and way down.

486
00:34:46,420 --> 00:34:51,440
Like two years ago, we had $16 million for capital, so that exploded the budget.

487
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,720
Last year, we had roughly $9 million of finishing the project,

488
00:34:54,720 --> 00:34:58,900
so that still a hefty $12 million or so budget,

489
00:34:59,300 --> 00:35:01,000
but not as much as the year before.

490
00:35:01,540 --> 00:35:03,700
And then this year, the way we have it set up here,

491
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,780
which is incorrect, we were going to pay off the short-term loan here.

492
00:35:07,020 --> 00:35:09,680
So it's going to fluctuate until this project is done,

493
00:35:09,740 --> 00:35:11,540
but then it'll be pretty even.

494
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,780
Probably the year after next, it should be 100% even.

495
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:19,620
And if I could add to that, this is the police fire library parks.

496
00:35:19,740 --> 00:35:23,740
We also have wastewater and water impact fees in their funds.

497
00:35:23,740 --> 00:35:27,540
And it's really a growth. What is the development coming into?

498
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,260
We anticipate for being permitted the next fiscal year.

499
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:34,400
So right now we do see a kind of more of a conservative, moderate level.

500
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:40,300
A couple of maybe three years, four years ago it was a little higher because there was a spike.

501
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,080
But right now it's more of a leveling.

502
00:35:43,660 --> 00:35:47,680
Probably more, this will be more consistent for the next several years, these numbers.

503
00:35:52,180 --> 00:35:55,820
So, yeah, all these funds, right now we're sitting at 30 million and it'll probably end

504
00:35:55,820 --> 00:35:57,480
up around roughly 14, 15 million.

505
00:35:57,700 --> 00:35:59,120
All of these funds are balanced.

506
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:04,600
I expect very little changes from these, just the Northeast CRA item we've talked about.

507
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,340
Is there any questions anyone, dive deeper into the news?

508
00:36:08,980 --> 00:36:15,240
Okay. So, moving on to the enterprise funds, very little change from when we talked

509
00:36:15,240 --> 00:36:18,340
on July 7th, I think it was.

510
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:26,080
20th? The Monday after July 4th was the enterprise. I think it was the 7th, I could be wrong. But

511
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:31,540
yes, so we're sitting at the electric fund here at 13.8 million. I do want to point out

512
00:36:31,540 --> 00:36:41,320
that we added $130,000 of revenue and expenditures on this today that we popped up wooden pole

513
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:48,140
inspection that will in turn actually bring in more revenue as well. So that would

514
00:36:48,140 --> 00:36:52,080
would be the only change I would see from the electric fund going forward, maybe something

515
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:55,000
very minimal, just scanning through it and realizing we forgot something.

516
00:36:55,780 --> 00:37:05,480
So that's sitting at $13.8 million, that's going to go up to almost $14 million, we have

517
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:11,440
the water and sewer utility fund at $18.8 million, which is 42% of the fund, we have

518
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:16,260
the water waste water impact fees at $2.5 million or 5%, we have the water impact

519
00:37:16,260 --> 00:37:19,940
tax fees at $775,000 or 1.75%.

520
00:37:20,580 --> 00:37:26,120
We have the sanitation fund at 3.9 million at 8.8%.

521
00:37:26,720 --> 00:37:30,160
And the stormwater utility at 4.3 million,

522
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:34,520
sitting at roughly 10% of the enterprise funds in totality.

523
00:37:35,180 --> 00:37:38,660
This number totals up $44,263,000.

524
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:42,420
These funds are balanced.

525
00:37:43,240 --> 00:37:44,460
The revenue matches the expenditure.

526
00:37:44,460 --> 00:37:50,100
These funds are based on the master fee schedule that is on the future agendas.

527
00:37:50,340 --> 00:37:56,840
We just had the stormwater one passed, includes the capital budgets,

528
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:58,400
which we're going to go a little bit further in.

529
00:37:59,240 --> 00:38:03,800
But no real changes on any of these funds since we've talked about them last.

530
00:38:04,140 --> 00:38:05,380
We had these done first.

531
00:38:06,180 --> 00:38:06,740
So,

532
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:12,500
is there any questions about the enterprise at all?

533
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,560
Yes, you say there's no real changes.

534
00:38:22,790 --> 00:38:25,510
Later in the stormwater, I think it's

535
00:38:25,510 --> 00:38:30,250
stormwater somewhere later in the presentation. I see some changes. I

536
00:38:30,250 --> 00:38:35,510
guess we'll get to that then, but when you say no real changes, what does that

537
00:38:35,510 --> 00:38:38,950
mean? Well, so an example of something that changed in the water department is

538
00:38:38,950 --> 00:38:44,410
that we, when we built our budget, we had roughly $200,000 under,

539
00:38:47,870 --> 00:38:48,050
for

540
00:38:48,050 --> 00:38:53,870
to end the fund balance and we keep assessing, we keep assessing, and then a potential project

541
00:38:53,870 --> 00:38:58,070
popped up of meter replacement that we had funded last year and we needed some extra

542
00:38:58,070 --> 00:38:58,290
money.

543
00:38:58,450 --> 00:39:03,130
So instead of that $200,000 going to the fund balance where I'm just holding it for the

544
00:39:03,130 --> 00:39:07,750
time being because the budget's not complete, then we move it into that water project

545
00:39:08,290 --> 00:39:12,870
and that's not an overall change on the funds, but that's just how funds are

546
00:39:12,870 --> 00:39:16,570
being used to help as problems pop up.

547
00:39:18,230 --> 00:39:21,250
So that stuff like that is going to happen.

548
00:39:21,630 --> 00:39:27,270
There's examples of, like, okay, we forgot an invoice came in for a piece of software we have,

549
00:39:27,330 --> 00:39:29,030
and we look in the budget to see where it's budgeted.

550
00:39:29,150 --> 00:39:31,510
And, oh, it's $3,000 and it's not budgeted.

551
00:39:31,790 --> 00:39:33,630
Okay, so now we have to make sure that's in the future year's budget.

552
00:39:33,810 --> 00:39:35,370
You know, there's little things like that.

553
00:39:35,570 --> 00:39:40,630
All like me and Troy and I revisited the part-time staffing.

554
00:39:41,390 --> 00:39:45,030
We increased that in the general fund a little bit.

555
00:39:45,030 --> 00:39:48,410
We took something else away to counter that and it evened out.

556
00:39:49,130 --> 00:39:53,050
So little things like that are always happening until September 3rd.

557
00:39:53,110 --> 00:39:58,870
But then to a certain point, the line stops, you know,

558
00:39:59,390 --> 00:40:04,170
and then we move on with it and get it adopted or talk to council about it.

559
00:40:04,430 --> 00:40:10,930
When you make the statement little changes, do you base that upon a percentage or a dollar amount?

560
00:40:12,310 --> 00:40:16,250
So the action really just the action. Yeah, okay, so

561
00:40:17,190 --> 00:40:21,830
No matter what the percentage or the dollar amount is I wouldn't say the Northeast CRA is a little change

562
00:40:21,830 --> 00:40:23,770
That's a 16 dollar change

563
00:40:25,090 --> 00:40:27,750
But when we have when we have two hundred thousand dollars that

564
00:40:28,550 --> 00:40:32,670
We know there is a plethora of issues and we just haven't decided to use it yet

565
00:40:32,670 --> 00:40:34,250
And then we finally decide how to use it

566
00:40:34,870 --> 00:40:36,770
Personally, I consider that a little change. Yes

567
00:40:37,930 --> 00:40:38,530
Okay, thank you.

568
00:40:38,670 --> 00:40:40,330
But I mean, you know, I don't want to.

569
00:40:40,610 --> 00:40:44,970
The reason I ask is because we don't know what the changes are.

570
00:40:45,250 --> 00:40:49,750
So really, we don't know if we agree with the change or don't agree because we don't know what they are.

571
00:40:49,850 --> 00:40:50,730
So that's why I ask.

572
00:40:50,970 --> 00:40:53,330
But I trust your judgment on that.

573
00:40:53,410 --> 00:40:53,770
I got you.

574
00:40:53,970 --> 00:40:54,150
Okay.

575
00:40:54,830 --> 00:40:55,090
Okay.

576
00:40:56,310 --> 00:41:01,230
Yeah, so we reevaluate all of the budgets as the process goes on.

577
00:41:01,230 --> 00:41:07,850
And Andrew and I worked this out and figured out a way to use this money better than what we had originally planned.

578
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:25,140
So these funds are, they're balanced, they're set on the schedules that are to be voted on soon.

579
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,880
There's no, are there any other questions about any of these funds?

580
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:39,950
So moving on to the internal service funds, a good way of thinking about the internal service

581
00:41:39,950 --> 00:41:47,630
funds is that all of the dollars, every single $10,221,632 here that's budgeted is budgeted

582
00:41:47,630 --> 00:41:48,210
in other funds.

583
00:41:48,850 --> 00:41:52,130
They're moved to these funds so we can properly record certain expenses.

584
00:41:52,890 --> 00:41:58,250
The public works complex at $2.9 million, which is 29% of the internal service funds.

585
00:41:58,250 --> 00:42:02,850
And this consists of mainly the two bond payments that we have.

586
00:42:03,110 --> 00:42:10,270
However, we do have the capital project within it of the retention bond that collapsed in October of last year.

587
00:42:11,010 --> 00:42:19,810
And then we decided to move forward with a $50,000 year-over-year repair and maintenance program that is to be split the same way the bond payments are.

588
00:42:21,350 --> 00:42:28,010
So this number is, this is an example of a fund that should stay pretty close to the same number every year.

589
00:42:28,330 --> 00:42:34,210
However, this year because of the stormwater, because of the retention pond, it's $1.5 million higher.

590
00:42:35,950 --> 00:42:38,490
The self-insured health, we have received those numbers.

591
00:42:39,430 --> 00:42:40,870
This is our healthcare fund.

592
00:42:41,070 --> 00:42:44,510
This is built into the staffing of every single fund that has staffing.

593
00:42:45,610 --> 00:42:47,230
The clinic is housed in here.

594
00:42:47,230 --> 00:42:51,910
all the expenses are encumbered, and this is completely balanced.

595
00:42:52,590 --> 00:42:58,310
The property casualty insurance fund, this is the same number as last year, however,

596
00:42:58,430 --> 00:43:04,870
when I entered the line item that transfers the money from the funds to this fund, I put

597
00:43:04,870 --> 00:43:09,550
I think a 5% buffer on each one of them, so this number will change, but it should

598
00:43:10,410 --> 00:43:15,950
only affect this fund, and I'm hoping that it only results in the cost to the

599
00:43:15,950 --> 00:43:19,850
other funds going down. So this is one of the ones I mentioned earlier. This is the

600
00:43:19,850 --> 00:43:21,630
one I'm still watching and waiting on the numbers for.

601
00:43:29,910 --> 00:43:31,130
We have the debt service

602
00:43:31,130 --> 00:43:37,110
schedule, which again is wrong because I have the Northeast CRA budget on here

603
00:43:37,110 --> 00:43:40,690
saying that it's in the Northeast CRA bond in here saying it's coming out of

604
00:43:40,690 --> 00:43:44,490
the Northeast CRA budget, but that will end up not being true. However, you do

605
00:43:44,490 --> 00:43:51,970
see the the payment on here of 1.122 million. That'll be roughly the

606
00:43:51,970 --> 00:43:57,530
We don't have exact numbers yet, but we have a very good idea and we expect the payments

607
00:43:57,530 --> 00:43:59,770
to be very close to that every year.

608
00:44:00,990 --> 00:44:06,090
So we have the 2013 CRA bonds, it's $196,000 a year.

609
00:44:06,950 --> 00:44:14,050
We have the 2018 CRA capital improvement revenue note at $222,000 a year, the 2018 fire assessment

610
00:44:14,050 --> 00:44:19,570
at $1.2 million a year, the 2018 capital improvement bonds

611
00:44:19,570 --> 00:44:23,530
for governmental at $97,000 in the general fund.

612
00:44:24,770 --> 00:44:28,270
And I'll explain which fund every single one of these is in,

613
00:44:28,350 --> 00:44:31,330
but these are the terms of general governmental

614
00:44:31,330 --> 00:44:34,910
or special revenue funds, which are backed

615
00:44:34,910 --> 00:44:36,430
by the government fund in many ways.

616
00:44:37,590 --> 00:44:40,070
The 2024 capital improvement bonds,

617
00:44:40,070 --> 00:44:46,370
The governmental is 101,000 in the 2026 non-advalorant revenue bond, which is the Nathaniel Bell

618
00:44:46,370 --> 00:44:49,170
center bond of 1.12 million.

619
00:44:49,990 --> 00:44:56,630
So the CRA bonds are in the CRA budget, this 2026 non-advalorant revenue bond, the payment

620
00:44:56,630 --> 00:44:59,850
I wanted to clarify, the payment is in the Northeast

621
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:05,060
The CRA budget, the fire assessment is in our fire assessment fund, and it is transferred

622
00:45:05,060 --> 00:45:11,480
to our debt service fund. But the 2018 and 24 are actually in the general fund, and those

623
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:21,400
are the only two debt payments that are in the general fund. And it is roughly 298,000,

624
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:25,340
I believe it is. Yeah, 199,000, 200,000.

625
00:45:28,190 --> 00:45:28,850
Yes, sir.

626
00:45:30,550 --> 00:45:34,990
On the 2026 non-Avalon revenue bond for the North D.C.R.A.

627
00:45:35,230 --> 00:45:35,530
Yes, sir.

628
00:45:36,850 --> 00:45:39,470
It says here 25 million, 792.

629
00:45:40,610 --> 00:45:44,510
What is the difference between that and the 19 million that we saw earlier?

630
00:45:45,550 --> 00:45:53,490
So the bond is, I believe, 16 million, 250,000, something along those lines.

631
00:45:54,150 --> 00:45:56,090
But that's the total payment we'll have to pay for it.

632
00:45:56,510 --> 00:45:56,890
Okay.

633
00:45:56,890 --> 00:46:01,870
So yeah, so that's that's that's with principal and interest. Yeah. Yes. Yes. Yes, sir. Thank you, sir. Yep

634
00:46:02,870 --> 00:46:10,290
And I and looking at that other number the income certainly pays for all of the debt service on the bonds as far as I could tell

635
00:46:11,170 --> 00:46:15,290
The income of the CR. Oh, yes. Yes. Yes, sir. Yes

636
00:46:16,510 --> 00:46:16,970
No,

637
00:46:20,130 --> 00:46:20,810
yeah, I mean

638
00:46:21,930 --> 00:46:23,750
Yeah, exactly. Yeah

639
00:46:24,510 --> 00:46:27,550
Okay, so moving on to the enterprise funds for the debt service.

640
00:46:27,830 --> 00:46:31,630
We have the 2018 Capital Improvement Bond, which is the same bond as the one prior, however.

641
00:46:32,350 --> 00:46:39,550
That bond is split 38% water, 37% electric, 14% general fund and 11 fund stormwater.

642
00:46:39,890 --> 00:46:44,450
So, you know, that's 86% of it is paid for by the enterprise funds.

643
00:46:45,230 --> 00:46:49,990
So we have the 2018 Capital Improvement Bond at $596,000.

644
00:46:49,990 --> 00:46:55,270
2024 Capital Improvement Bond at $620,000.

645
00:46:55,270 --> 00:47:02,690
We have these here are various water bonds that I'm going to list next, 2014 Water and

646
00:47:02,690 --> 00:47:10,110
Sewer Bond at $1.159 million and the rest here are SRF loans, drinking water loan at

647
00:47:10,110 --> 00:47:18,490
$94,000, SRF clean water loan at $120,000, 2018 SRF loan at $120,000, 2017 SRF loan

648
00:47:18,490 --> 00:47:22,990
loan at $91,000 and a 2017 SRF loan at $107,000.

649
00:47:24,330 --> 00:47:33,950
So that's totaling $2.9 million total, $5.8 million for the total debt service for the

650
00:47:33,950 --> 00:47:38,650
city broken down by various funds.

651
00:47:38,890 --> 00:47:42,290
Like I said earlier, the general fund is responsible for $200,000 of this.

652
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:51,120
Do we have any more questions about any of the bonds or what they pay for or anything?

653
00:47:56,940 --> 00:47:59,920
So moving on to the capital outlays up

654
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:04,340
here so

655
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:09,740
in the general fund and these are

656
00:48:09,740 --> 00:48:15,520
already built into the general fund we have $155,000 of outlays we have an

657
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:19,140
IT item we have the community building lobby concessions and parks we have

658
00:48:19,140 --> 00:48:23,840
Gilbert Park swing set replacement for parks we have mule replacement

659
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:29,000
anti-tractor replacement for parks and that's totaling let's do the math in

660
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:33,080
my head here, it's about 107,000 for parks and then 48 for IT.

661
00:48:35,580 --> 00:48:37,300
In the discretionary sales tax fund,

662
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:42,020
we have nine PD vehicles, the upfitting and the body

663
00:48:42,020 --> 00:48:45,700
cam onboarding systems, and that's

664
00:48:45,700 --> 00:48:48,720
going to end up being 720,000 and a public work

665
00:48:48,720 --> 00:48:53,720
struck at 45,000, totaling the discretionary at 767,000.

666
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:59,740
These are what we've done the last few years

667
00:48:59,740 --> 00:49:05,080
is we've set a certain amount of money towards refreshing the vehicle replacement program

668
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:10,220
for the PD department. We would like to do this year every year. We hope to do this every

669
00:49:10,220 --> 00:49:17,640
year as long as funds are available. And the fire assessment funds. This is paid for

670
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:25,100
by either the bond or the fire assessment fee. We have a replacement of a pressure

671
00:49:25,100 --> 00:49:31,040
ventilation fan. We have an equipment trailer. We have the PPE equipment. We have heavy rescue

672
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:35,360
airbag kits, which is a replacement. We have the fire suppression apparatus, another replacement,

673
00:49:35,580 --> 00:49:44,760
totaling $101,000, almost $102,000. The cemetery, we have a $38,000 cremation niche.

674
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:48,320
We just did

675
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:51,780
get a quote back, and that's going down in price, actually. We got it after I'd already

676
00:49:51,780 --> 00:49:57,400
submitted this. So I think it's 25,000-ish. Yeah, something like that. 25,000. Yep. Yep.

677
00:49:58,220 --> 00:50:05,380
Always a help. For the water waste water fund, we have three trucks coming in at $180,000.

678
00:50:05,980 --> 00:50:10,720
For stormwater, we have two pickup trucks, a smaller pickup trucks for $90,000 and a

679
00:50:10,720 --> 00:50:18,580
factor truck for $375,000. This is totaling $1.7 million, but 155 of this is going to be

680
00:50:18,580 --> 00:50:19,640
paid for by the general fund.

681
00:50:21,420 --> 00:50:21,960
Yes, sir.

682
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:30,900
Matt, I'm assuming that all these numbers are just simply the same numbers we saw before at the prior hearing.

683
00:50:31,020 --> 00:50:32,800
Nothing's been added or...

684
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:33,740
Okay, thanks.

685
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:36,780
I just have a question.

686
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:38,880
The AC for the community center.

687
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:40,140
Is that in this year's budget?

688
00:50:40,780 --> 00:50:42,140
So it is in here.

689
00:50:44,460 --> 00:50:46,580
So here's the thing.

690
00:50:46,580 --> 00:50:47,440
Here's the thing.

691
00:50:47,620 --> 00:50:50,780
So technically, these are going to end up being repairs.

692
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:56,480
So in accounting terms, and I struggle going back and forth with this, is a big part of

693
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:58,200
this is where do you properly budget it?

694
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:03,000
So what we have done is we have that set under a repair and maintenance line within the

695
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:06,560
recreation center, within the recreation budget, sorry, not the recreation center,

696
00:51:06,660 --> 00:51:08,900
the recreation department budget.

697
00:51:08,900 --> 00:51:20,960
So technically a repair along with the $20,000 slot for the partial roof repair for the library, that's in the library budget.

698
00:51:21,500 --> 00:51:29,480
However, when we're directly comparing what the library is proposed to spend this year and proposed to spend last year,

699
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:35,020
I didn't want to skew that by putting a capital outlay project in there.

700
00:51:35,020 --> 00:51:39,500
So as it gets closer to the actual budget being finalized,

701
00:51:39,720 --> 00:51:41,460
then I put it where it actually belongs.

702
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:46,120
But for properly categorizing it and grouping everything

703
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:48,420
together, I've included it as a capital outlay up

704
00:51:48,420 --> 00:51:51,520
to this point, or a CIP project.

705
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:56,500
For example, we have multiple projects

706
00:51:56,500 --> 00:52:02,080
that it really comes down to how we capitalize the item.

707
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:09,000
And the first step of that is where it's budgeted within the GL system and then therefore where it's purchased, where it's

708
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:17,980
expensed in the GL system. So a lot of our capital outlay items or CIP projects will end up not being in the 60s,

709
00:52:17,980 --> 00:52:23,600
which is the accounting code for the capital items, but they'll end up being in the 46s because that's their apparent maintenance line.

710
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:27,160
So yes, it's in there.

711
00:52:27,980 --> 00:52:31,120
It's $350,000 in the recreation budget.

712
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:39,520
And it's in the notes that I sent over, along with the only other item like that is the library has a $20,000 partial roof repair.

713
00:52:40,180 --> 00:52:41,260
Yeah, they're in there.

714
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:44,800
You'll figure out the budgeting accounting with Jennifer.

715
00:52:45,420 --> 00:52:48,300
Yeah, we sit down and we write up the budget.

716
00:52:48,300 --> 00:52:53,660
We put everything in there, and then we sit down and one of the last steps is go over it

717
00:52:53,660 --> 00:52:57,420
and say, okay, I have to make sure everything is budgeted in the proper place, and sometimes

718
00:52:57,420 --> 00:53:03,440
it does move things out from the capital slot into the operating budget slot, but I also

719
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:09,380
don't want to put $350,000 in the recreation budget and be like, well, why did their budget

720
00:53:09,380 --> 00:53:13,240
go up by $400,000 when it only went up 50 or something like that, you know.

721
00:53:14,060 --> 00:53:17,440
So it's a matter of, it depends on how you look at it, and trying to compare

722
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:21,000
the numbers as fair as possible. So I kept that in an outlay slide.

723
00:53:21,340 --> 00:53:23,460
Michael, it's in there. It's in there, yep.

724
00:53:27,580 --> 00:53:30,960
I'm more like Calgon, I'm going to take me away.

725
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:42,380
So yes, so moving to the next page, the first two items on here are the

726
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:47,280
Public Library roof replacement for $20,000

727
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:50,540
and the Community Building HVAC replacement of $350,000.

728
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:53,920
So as you see, those are slaughtered.

729
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:56,280
in the general fund for a total of $370,000.

730
00:53:57,980 --> 00:54:02,180
Moving on to the discretionary fund here, we have the Head Start Building Roof and Repairs,

731
00:54:03,420 --> 00:54:07,740
which we're unsure of the total cost, but we have a slot there for it.

732
00:54:08,100 --> 00:54:12,880
We have the Sidewalk ADA compliance, the year-over-year project for $400,000, and the street resurfacing

733
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:17,360
program for $300,000, another year-over-year project that's been in the discretionary

734
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:18,200
fund the last few years.

735
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:22,060
Is that the one that used to be 800,000 last year?

736
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:23,660
The sidewalk one, yes.

737
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:24,700
Just the final one.

738
00:54:25,820 --> 00:54:27,180
I understand you need to save.

739
00:54:29,720 --> 00:54:32,340
I've been talking with Andrew in public works.

740
00:54:32,420 --> 00:54:34,200
He's looking at a piggyback contract

741
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:36,200
and probably can do the same amount of work

742
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:37,720
with half the cost.

743
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:39,220
Yeah, you mentioned that.

744
00:54:39,220 --> 00:54:40,000
So, yeah.

745
00:54:41,220 --> 00:54:43,560
So, we'll bring in a piggyback here shortly.

746
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:49,160
So, we have a project slider

747
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:51,100
for the library impact fee fund.

748
00:54:51,100 --> 00:54:55,140
The Simpson Farmhouse Expansion, phase one, $146,000.

749
00:54:56,100 --> 00:55:02,860
And then we have three projects in the CRA, the signage and community beautification, parking improvements, and kiosk replacement.

750
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:05,900
And that's totaling $798,000.

751
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:13,060
We have four projects in the Northeast CRA, a property purchase of $200,000, a signage and community beautification of $20,000.

752
00:55:13,060 --> 00:55:18,780
Northeast Streetlight Enhancement of $20,000, Information kiosk of $25,000, and that total is $265,000.

753
00:55:18,780 --> 00:55:22,480
and all of these are already built into the budgets that are already balanced as well.

754
00:55:28,140 --> 00:55:32,160
The property purchase in the North ACRA, that's the Witherspoon.

755
00:55:34,820 --> 00:55:37,400
So it can be, I mean it depends on what we do.

756
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:41,100
Yeah, I think you're looking for affordable housing sites too.

757
00:55:41,100 --> 00:55:44,940
Yeah, it depends on the number of things.

758
00:55:52,450 --> 00:55:56,270
Okay, so these are the projects that are either in the general fund

759
00:55:56,270 --> 00:56:05,030
or the special revenue funds already built in, balanced, ready to go.

760
00:56:06,150 --> 00:56:12,330
So moving on to the enterprise fund capital improvement projects.

761
00:56:12,650 --> 00:56:16,950
We have the electric fund here with a substation of $122,000 this year

762
00:56:16,950 --> 00:56:18,650
and the advanced metering infrastructure.

763
00:56:18,990 --> 00:56:22,510
The rest of it is $500,000 totaling $622,000.

764
00:56:22,590 --> 00:56:24,130
That does not change the electric.

765
00:56:24,670 --> 00:56:26,730
This is exactly what we covered in the previous meeting.

766
00:56:26,730 --> 00:56:29,730
So no changes there.

767
00:56:30,290 --> 00:56:36,250
I mean, the rest of this is a projected five-year plan on the capital improvements.

768
00:56:37,630 --> 00:56:40,590
I didn't. This is kind of more generic.

769
00:56:40,950 --> 00:56:46,470
But with the purchase of the rail bed, the land,

770
00:56:47,030 --> 00:56:54,030
are we looking into the projected revamping of our underground utilities using that?

771
00:56:54,310 --> 00:56:56,730
I mean, I'm kind of looking here.

772
00:56:57,470 --> 00:57:03,070
I didn't know those are those already planned in or they they're not in this

773
00:57:03,070 --> 00:57:07,710
budget there'll be future as we move that project move forward with engine we

774
00:57:07,710 --> 00:57:13,030
have to look at engineering design and so forth so yes yeah I mean I know it's

775
00:57:13,030 --> 00:57:18,410
not in this but I'm looking down the road here so if you look at the if you

776
00:57:18,410 --> 00:57:25,970
look at the 20 29 30 yeah time frame we're looking at moving that circuit

777
00:57:25,970 --> 00:57:30,110
underground along the railroad right away there so that's what that that's what

778
00:57:30,110 --> 00:57:34,990
that money is there for. And then the other waste wastewater you know along

779
00:57:34,990 --> 00:57:40,930
like Dora there's an old I'll say an old pipe and we want to look at expanding

780
00:57:40,930 --> 00:57:48,450
and things like that or maybe even fiber optics to not go through our little

781
00:57:48,450 --> 00:57:49,150
streets here.

782
00:57:51,870 --> 00:57:52,430
Matt,

783
00:57:55,130 --> 00:57:55,970
can you review the

784
00:57:55,970 --> 00:58:01,610
Sylvan Shores under your own conversion? I cannot, but I'm Steve Langley-Cann.

785
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:11,020
Is that on county property? That is, yes, that is county. So what we're

786
00:58:11,020 --> 00:58:14,680
looking at is the Sylvan Shores, that particular area in Sylvan Shores, is

787
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:19,200
one of our worst areas when hurricanes hit. Whenever that happens, there's a

788
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:22,760
A lot of trees, the lines are in the back of the lots

789
00:58:23,050 --> 00:58:27,300
in their backyards, and it's a lot of trees in there.

790
00:58:27,420 --> 00:58:30,020
So every time Hurgings hit, that line comes down.

791
00:58:30,460 --> 00:58:32,700
And so we're trying to put that underground

792
00:58:32,700 --> 00:58:35,440
and move it in front of the houses.

793
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:38,280
And so I've tried to get some money

794
00:58:38,770 --> 00:58:43,960
through the FEMA mitigation, that kind of thing.

795
00:58:44,060 --> 00:58:45,800
So we've got applied for that.

796
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:50,840
We put it in the applied for the legislature to get some money for that.

797
00:58:51,020 --> 00:58:51,680
That didn't work.

798
00:58:51,820 --> 00:58:55,480
So we tried a number of ways to get some grant money for that.

799
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:58,040
But that's what it's forced to help with hurricane mitigation.

800
00:58:58,340 --> 00:59:00,780
It's a very good idea to get as much underground as you can.

801
00:59:00,900 --> 00:59:01,400
It's expensive.

802
00:59:03,100 --> 00:59:07,720
My dad was that contractor for decades.

803
00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:11,520
And that really helps emergencies.

804
00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:13,400
Okay, thank you.

805
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:32,020
Moving on to the water or wastewater construction fund here, we have one big project, a $1.5

806
00:59:32,020 --> 00:59:34,340
million project for a clear fire rehab.

807
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:42,120
The thing I'll say about the water construction plan here for the next five years is there's

808
00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:48,000
a lot of hardening efforts going in and we already have basically just chomping at

809
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:50,580
the bit to get these next two or three years projects underway.

810
00:59:50,580 --> 00:59:50,780
way.

811
00:59:51,580 --> 00:59:57,880
We have some repaired maintenance needed and we're doing our best to invest in that.

812
00:59:58,740 --> 00:59:59,980
So it's going to be a pretty...

813
01:00:00,460 --> 01:00:03,320
Pretty concrete plan over the next five years for the water funds.

814
01:00:08,350 --> 01:00:14,570
And we have next year we have stormwater. So this is a big one this year.

815
01:00:15,010 --> 01:00:20,790
We've touched on the increasing the rates for stormwater that was just passed.

816
01:00:21,150 --> 01:00:24,610
We're able to do a lot more with it because of that.

817
01:00:27,010 --> 01:00:30,770
So these are the projects that are in the budget right now.

818
01:00:31,790 --> 01:00:39,590
We have $500,000 of a Repair and Maintenance Program and $90,000 of GIS mapping.

819
01:00:40,910 --> 01:00:46,270
The Basin Management Action Plan Project for BMAP program, $200,000.

820
01:00:46,710 --> 01:00:51,870
So these three, these top three here are examples of projects that are with their,

821
01:00:52,990 --> 01:00:55,930
it's exactly what I was mentioning earlier with the capital versus operating,

822
01:00:55,930 --> 01:01:02,910
operating is that these projects are, they're in the operating budget pretty

823
01:01:02,910 --> 01:01:07,830
much because they won't be capitalized. It's a service or it's various small

824
01:01:07,830 --> 01:01:11,690
repairs, fixing things and whatnot. So for a lot of reasons you wouldn't

825
01:01:11,690 --> 01:01:15,950
capitalize them. So therefore when we look at what's transferred to the

826
01:01:15,950 --> 01:01:19,150
general construction or to the stormwater construction fund, those

827
01:01:19,150 --> 01:01:23,730
projects won't be transferred. They're housed within the project. So if we

828
01:01:23,730 --> 01:01:26,330
If you were looking at the stormwater fund, you would see those in the operating budget

829
01:01:26,330 --> 01:01:34,830
rather than the capital plan, but because essentially the stormwater fund is a few items

830
01:01:34,830 --> 01:01:38,030
that we have to take care of, and then all capital.

831
01:01:39,450 --> 01:01:45,730
We're including them in for awareness in the capital plan.

832
01:01:46,730 --> 01:01:50,410
But again, if you were to look at what we spent last year in the operating budget

833
01:01:50,410 --> 01:01:55,570
and then when we spend this year, it would immediately be, you know, $800,000 higher

834
01:01:55,570 --> 01:02:01,830
because of these, even though that they're programs and plans that are going to enable

835
01:02:01,830 --> 01:02:03,810
other construction or capital projects.

836
01:02:05,450 --> 01:02:12,490
So that's something that I can do my best to point out, but it's going to happen

837
01:02:12,490 --> 01:02:13,910
depending on what the project is.

838
01:02:13,910 --> 01:02:20,170
So the rest of it, however, I believe, is transferred over to the construction funds.

839
01:02:20,930 --> 01:02:27,410
So we have street resurfacing repair, St. Andrews Country Club, Liberty Avenue storm sewer installation, railroad crossing to Tremaine.

840
01:02:28,050 --> 01:02:30,810
Groundwater table control on Tremaine between Charles and Liberty.

841
01:02:31,130 --> 01:02:34,090
Drainage improvements at East 5th Avenue and North Rosseter Street.

842
01:02:34,730 --> 01:02:36,550
Alexander Creek and Clayton Colvert improvements.

843
01:02:36,970 --> 01:02:40,090
Flood control on East 8th Avenue adjacent to Mount Dora High School.

844
01:02:40,090 --> 01:02:44,170
door set of Mount Dora subdivision drainage and stormwater management

845
01:02:44,170 --> 01:02:49,790
facilities and the Lake John Basin study which is also funded by a grant and I

846
01:02:49,790 --> 01:02:52,570
actually this is one that's in the operating budget to the last one the

847
01:02:52,570 --> 01:02:59,630
Lake John Basin study we have that that grant is $300,000 $100,000 matching so

848
01:02:59,630 --> 01:03:01,470
totaling $400,000

849
01:03:05,060 --> 01:03:12,320
yes sir excuse me so this is the the slide that I saw

850
01:03:12,320 --> 01:03:18,700
that seem to have the most changes from our July 6 meeting. Yes.

851
01:03:23,850 --> 01:03:25,230
At the July 6

852
01:03:25,230 --> 01:03:30,170
meeting there was $30,000 for something from I don't know what it was

853
01:03:30,170 --> 01:03:37,050
Grant to Pine or whatever whatever that was and that's that's been removed but

854
01:03:37,050 --> 01:03:41,530
I see a lot of items that have been added. The Lake John Basin for $400,000

855
01:03:41,530 --> 01:03:48,730
the door set subdivision for 500,000, 8th Avenue for 100,000,

856
01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:56,200
Tremaine and Charles, I believe, 75th Street, Surfacing,

857
01:03:56,640 --> 01:04:01,800
Country Club, my door for 200,000, Vince.

858
01:04:02,860 --> 01:04:04,040
So every,

859
01:04:06,050 --> 01:04:09,490
well for the last two years maybe we spoke about pine

860
01:04:09,490 --> 01:04:13,650
and I know that's ongoing work but when I don't see the numbers here,

861
01:04:13,650 --> 01:04:13,990
Yeah.

862
01:04:14,110 --> 01:04:15,150
Help me understand that.

863
01:04:15,150 --> 01:04:19,950
Yeah, I'll have Andrew assist as well because there's current budget and then this year's

864
01:04:19,950 --> 01:04:20,910
budget's new money.

865
01:04:21,310 --> 01:04:29,150
I can speak on the actual budgetary aspect of it is that on the July 7th meeting we were

866
01:04:29,150 --> 01:04:33,330
completely, we were building two separate budgets where the current revenues that

867
01:04:33,330 --> 01:04:36,750
we had along with the possible proposed increase.

868
01:04:37,010 --> 01:04:42,030
So we just had two numbers that we were looking to put towards capital and we didn't

869
01:04:42,030 --> 01:04:45,890
have set projects at that time for the stormwater fund.

870
01:04:46,890 --> 01:04:48,790
So then as the process has gone along,

871
01:04:49,090 --> 01:04:51,110
we've narrowed it down to actual projects.

872
01:04:51,290 --> 01:04:53,210
So you can speak to each individual project,

873
01:04:53,310 --> 01:04:55,290
but that's how we approach it from a budget perspective

874
01:04:55,290 --> 01:04:55,730
this year.

875
01:04:57,850 --> 01:05:02,190
So the Pine Avenue project is a very extensive project.

876
01:05:03,170 --> 01:05:05,250
We're hoping to, it's on schedule right now

877
01:05:05,250 --> 01:05:09,070
as far as design, excuse me, coordinating with utilities

878
01:05:09,070 --> 01:05:11,610
because it's just not the stormwater aspect of it.

879
01:05:11,650 --> 01:05:12,390
It's utilities too.

880
01:05:12,390 --> 01:05:15,110
We're going to have to move some utilities, and while we're in there, we're also going

881
01:05:15,110 --> 01:05:18,770
to be replacing a lot of aged infrastructure on the utility side.

882
01:05:20,590 --> 01:05:26,530
We're looking at, I'd probably say spring, is when we'll have full 100% design out, be

883
01:05:26,530 --> 01:05:29,890
able to bid it, and I believe it's in next year's five year.

884
01:05:31,090 --> 01:05:31,790
I have to go back and look.

885
01:05:34,130 --> 01:05:39,170
So pine, we're looking at the beginning of either next fiscal year or the one after

886
01:05:39,170 --> 01:05:40,450
that because of the cost.

887
01:05:40,450 --> 01:05:43,330
I mean, it's roughly a $4 to $5 million project.

888
01:05:43,730 --> 01:05:47,410
We'll have to get outside funding for it, most likely, to cover it unless we, you know,

889
01:05:47,890 --> 01:05:51,910
and acquire some appropriation funding for it, which we're going to apply for.

890
01:05:52,070 --> 01:05:56,530
We're already working on the process now behind the scenes of seeing what grants we could apply for.

891
01:05:56,750 --> 01:06:01,810
But the reality is it's just because it's so expensive and that area has so many challenges

892
01:06:01,810 --> 01:06:05,010
as it takes just the time and effort behind it right now.

893
01:06:05,010 --> 01:06:14,530
And Council Member, we have this year's budget, the one we're working on now, the pine funds to be allocated for the design that Andrew's talked about.

894
01:06:14,730 --> 01:06:18,690
So when we come up with the future years of construction costs, those will be in that.

895
01:06:19,010 --> 01:06:19,510
Correct, yeah.

896
01:06:20,270 --> 01:06:20,930
That budget.

897
01:06:21,570 --> 01:06:24,230
So we're not ignoring Pine Avenue project at all.

898
01:06:24,330 --> 01:06:28,330
It's moving forward as the steps go on.

899
01:06:29,610 --> 01:06:36,550
Correct. Yeah, we've met with Kimley Horn and both departments, the stormwater side and

900
01:06:36,550 --> 01:06:39,690
the utility side at this point, just moving that along. We've already seen conceptual stuff

901
01:06:39,690 --> 01:06:44,390
which – the biggest thing is the modeling aspect that took time is what happens to this

902
01:06:44,390 --> 01:06:49,890
area when we have large-scale events. And even in a 25-year event, a significant portion

903
01:06:49,890 --> 01:06:53,850
of the area is more or less underwater. So there's a lot of challenges with this

904
01:06:53,850 --> 01:06:56,310
area. There's also – we're having to look at the possible land acquisition

905
01:06:56,310 --> 01:06:58,850
because not only do we have to convey this storm water,

906
01:06:59,070 --> 01:07:00,730
where do we put it, where do we send it to?

907
01:07:00,950 --> 01:07:03,070
You know, DOT can only accept so much on 4.41.

908
01:07:03,950 --> 01:07:05,750
And there's other factors in it too, you know,

909
01:07:05,810 --> 01:07:10,410
we're looking at ways of how can we take this storm water

910
01:07:10,410 --> 01:07:12,450
and use it to offset our reclaim challenges.

911
01:07:12,830 --> 01:07:15,110
You know, there's a lot of factors going into it, so.

912
01:07:15,650 --> 01:07:17,550
Okay, so thank you.

913
01:07:18,910 --> 01:07:20,570
The door set of Mount Dorset Division

914
01:07:20,570 --> 01:07:22,870
during the storm water, the 500,000.

915
01:07:25,250 --> 01:07:27,030
What would that $500,000 get you?

916
01:07:27,410 --> 01:07:31,750
That would get full construction, design, all that stuff.

917
01:07:32,090 --> 01:07:36,510
So all these costs in here are most of its construction.

918
01:07:36,850 --> 01:07:43,150
So what we're trying to do moving forward is take the – oh no, I'm sorry, yes.

919
01:07:43,290 --> 01:07:43,990
This one is design.

920
01:07:44,170 --> 01:07:45,850
So this is another large-scale project.

921
01:07:47,730 --> 01:07:51,050
We try to – the way we're trying to do the fund is the one-year's design,

922
01:07:51,270 --> 01:07:52,230
the second-year's construction.

923
01:07:52,230 --> 01:07:55,270
You know, a lot of times, unfortunately in the past, design gets shelved.

924
01:07:56,030 --> 01:07:56,730
We don't want it.

925
01:07:56,790 --> 01:07:57,730
We're trying to avoid that.

926
01:07:57,810 --> 01:08:00,770
So we plan the budget out, design, the next year construction.

927
01:08:01,430 --> 01:08:04,010
We have designs, various designs in for this year.

928
01:08:04,410 --> 01:08:10,050
We're also trying to do a lot of stuff in-house now, just because now that we've moved the

929
01:08:10,050 --> 01:08:14,290
staffing strictly over to stormwater allows us to have them, you know, strictly focused.

930
01:08:14,370 --> 01:08:18,970
I think we have four individuals now in stormwater, whether it's repairs, doing

931
01:08:20,610 --> 01:08:24,330
installation of projects, things like that. We're just trying to do a lot more in-house

932
01:08:24,330 --> 01:08:30,830
of where that funding is going. What we ultimately did, too, is a lot of these projects, you

933
01:08:30,830 --> 01:08:36,650
know, George had created this master list of projects over time, and so we went back

934
01:08:36,650 --> 01:08:39,790
and started going through every single project. We visited a lot of sites. We visited

935
01:08:39,790 --> 01:08:44,550
a lot of residents throughout the community. There's a lot of times where we went

936
01:08:44,550 --> 01:08:50,290
out in rainstorm events, Clayton, some other areas to see what was actually happening so

937
01:08:50,290 --> 01:08:54,850
that way we could identify, okay, what's really the highest priority right now based off this

938
01:08:54,850 --> 01:08:55,330
first year?

939
01:08:55,650 --> 01:08:59,530
So we're trying to target areas that seem to be our highest priority and get those

940
01:08:59,530 --> 01:09:00,550
taken care of.

941
01:09:01,890 --> 01:09:02,410
Okay.

942
01:09:03,010 --> 01:09:03,690
Thank you.

943
01:09:04,090 --> 01:09:09,490
I guess that's where I'm a little lost because on

944
01:09:12,690 --> 01:09:14,290
the whatever meeting that was

945
01:09:14,290 --> 01:09:21,290
us the 6th, July 6th meeting, we did have where the five-year capital plan was out there

946
01:09:21,290 --> 01:09:25,090
and it was $1.4 million. I guess I'm just assuming for the corridor.

947
01:09:27,950 --> 01:09:30,130
And so with the

948
01:09:30,130 --> 01:09:38,370
priority, George gave us a list priority and he said Pine Avenue was priority one

949
01:09:38,370 --> 01:09:42,750
at the time. And I think you also told us when you came aboard that that was still

950
01:09:42,750 --> 01:09:48,350
priority one. Not saying it's not it's just we

951
01:09:50,430 --> 01:09:52,590
put 400,000 in I think two years

952
01:09:52,590 --> 01:09:59,850
ago was it was a two years ago Vince? Maybe a half million I think. And it's

953
01:09:59,850 --> 01:10:08,110
like what's been done with that money this I know things take time and I know

954
01:10:08,110 --> 01:10:13,330
you say this is a large-scale project but I just want to make sure that

955
01:10:13,330 --> 01:10:16,270
but it's still top priority.

956
01:10:17,010 --> 01:10:20,490
And top priority to me is where the dollars are spent.

957
01:10:21,010 --> 01:10:22,750
And so when I look at it and I see no dollars

958
01:10:22,750 --> 01:10:24,330
in this upcoming year budget,

959
01:10:25,110 --> 01:10:28,790
then that to me says it's not a top priority.

960
01:10:29,210 --> 01:10:31,590
So, but I digress, you know,

961
01:10:31,770 --> 01:10:33,110
we don't have to go any further on that, that's fine.

962
01:10:33,350 --> 01:10:33,730
I understand.

963
01:10:35,170 --> 01:10:36,750
And maybe upcoming council,

964
01:10:37,070 --> 01:10:39,530
and Andrew can make a presentation of the pine,

965
01:10:39,970 --> 01:10:41,330
show the drawings and the status,

966
01:10:41,650 --> 01:10:42,570
and do the status report.

967
01:10:42,570 --> 01:10:48,670
Yeah, absolutely. I mean even like it indicated best case scenario if everything continues on time we're in the spring next year with design

968
01:10:48,670 --> 01:10:54,010
So we were really trying to so when I when I came on on in January, you know

969
01:10:54,010 --> 01:10:58,750
The Georgia retired we hadn't even kept off a pre-con meeting essentially with Kimley horn

970
01:10:58,750 --> 01:11:01,870
So that we got that started started with conceptual work

971
01:11:01,870 --> 01:11:05,170
Okay, this is kind of what we're looking at here and we just got to 30

972
01:11:05,170 --> 01:11:07,250
I think 30% a couple months ago

973
01:11:07,250 --> 01:11:12,510
So we're really trying to get them to move ahead now comes in the other factors with the utilities all that stuff

974
01:11:12,570 --> 01:11:18,610
permitting aspect but we it's been you know full steam ahead and it's been a

975
01:11:18,610 --> 01:11:22,170
top priority of ours so yeah and we can give we can have presentation on that

976
01:11:22,170 --> 01:11:27,110
all right and I will say this Mars on every time I've spoken to you you've

977
01:11:27,110 --> 01:11:32,430
always answered my questions I just when I look at the document just don't see

978
01:11:32,430 --> 01:11:36,670
any money in the current year it just in my mind it says that okay it's not

979
01:11:36,670 --> 01:11:37,570
its top priority.

980
01:11:41,090 --> 01:11:45,070
Unfortunately there was just this current or upcoming year

981
01:11:45,070 --> 01:11:49,310
there was just nothing that we could allocate money to just for the project.

982
01:11:49,850 --> 01:11:54,370
So what was it 30,000 on July 6th?

983
01:11:57,170 --> 01:11:59,330
Storm sewer repair at Grand Avenue to

984
01:11:59,330 --> 01:12:07,150
East Pine Avenue? I think it's still on our list but not right. So like a lot

985
01:12:07,150 --> 01:12:10,650
of this stuff, as George indicated, we went through and looked at it, investigated it,

986
01:12:10,690 --> 01:12:15,190
camered it to see the extent of it. Some of the stuff on the list that we even took off,

987
01:12:15,210 --> 01:12:18,310
I think we cut down the list by four million dollars on some of the things, just because

988
01:12:18,310 --> 01:12:23,850
we knew outside of the five-year CFP it still had a lot of life expectancy, but I had to

989
01:12:23,850 --> 01:12:26,310
go back and look at that one, but I think that's what happened, and that was just

990
01:12:26,870 --> 01:12:29,210
after looking at it, it deemed it still had some time,

991
01:12:32,250 --> 01:12:33,970
life expectancy and infrastructure.

992
01:12:33,970 --> 01:12:36,090
All right. Thank you, sir.

993
01:12:37,130 --> 01:12:38,090
All right.

994
01:12:45,040 --> 01:12:52,820
So any more questions on the stormwater fund at all?

995
01:12:53,820 --> 01:12:54,140
Construction?

996
01:12:54,360 --> 01:12:57,260
Only a comment, as we all remember so well.

997
01:12:59,340 --> 01:13:06,200
October of last year and Donnelly Street washout, stormwater issues are pretty important.

998
01:13:06,200 --> 01:13:10,520
I remember a famous council member said,

999
01:13:10,700 --> 01:13:12,080
we've got to take care of our stuff.

1000
01:13:13,100 --> 01:13:15,940
And that's what we're doing, it seems to me, in storm water.

1001
01:13:17,420 --> 01:13:23,120
Because we could have another 2,000-year storm in a year.

1002
01:13:24,040 --> 01:13:24,780
Hopefully in 2000.

1003
01:13:26,060 --> 01:13:27,300
I'm thinking of the 2000.

1004
01:13:27,860 --> 01:13:28,520
That's really important.

1005
01:13:30,140 --> 01:13:30,820
Thank you.

1006
01:13:36,850 --> 01:13:43,990
So the next portion of this is just talking about the budget factors that really shaped

1007
01:13:43,990 --> 01:13:45,230
and molded this budget.

1008
01:13:46,230 --> 01:13:51,270
I just wanted to just reunite the fact that we took a very conservative approach to this

1009
01:13:51,270 --> 01:13:54,670
budget because we don't know what's going to happen over the next couple months.

1010
01:13:56,250 --> 01:14:01,850
We tried to set ourselves up for success regardless of that.

1011
01:14:02,790 --> 01:14:10,490
Our focus, if you said that completely aside, our focus from the get-go is this enhancing the city's critical infrastructures

1012
01:14:10,490 --> 01:14:14,170
through strategic investments and resiliency initiatives.

1013
01:14:14,870 --> 01:14:20,990
We are prioritizing long-term financial stability, infrastructure resilience, service levels, and public safety.

1014
01:14:21,490 --> 01:14:26,750
and then just a continued emphasis on operational efficiency to provide the

1015
01:14:26,750 --> 01:14:31,910
services that the the citizens deserve and expect from us. And may I maybe could

1016
01:14:31,910 --> 01:14:38,430
talk about the we acquired Ralph Tellus financial to look at the impacts of the

1017
01:14:38,430 --> 01:14:43,070
potential ballot and then to this month or maybe beginning in November we'll

1018
01:14:43,070 --> 01:14:47,070
probably have me with you one-on-one and go over their dashboard of all the

1019
01:14:47,070 --> 01:14:51,570
data and the financial information that we provided them and then we could talk

1020
01:14:51,570 --> 01:14:55,410
about if you want a workshop, participation in the November ballot or

1021
01:14:55,410 --> 01:14:59,790
maybe we have a presentation but we like to I think a one-on-one with the

1022
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:04,720
The mayor and the council members individually, they're getting ready here with the data we

1023
01:15:04,720 --> 01:15:15,880
have to look at forecasting and so forth, and yeah, probably mid-September, so I'll be timing

1024
01:15:15,880 --> 01:15:21,620
to wrap that up and then give a report, presentation, so it'll be good information, anticipation

1025
01:15:21,620 --> 01:15:28,300
of the ballot in October, where you can see how that impacts us through the financial

1026
01:15:28,300 --> 01:15:31,680
consulting, having a third party look at it.

1027
01:15:33,380 --> 01:15:38,040
And looking at it, are they just going to kind of tell us where the deficits might be

1028
01:15:38,040 --> 01:15:43,080
or will we also look at in the departments where those deficits will be?

1029
01:15:43,240 --> 01:15:45,700
I think all above, right?

1030
01:15:45,920 --> 01:15:51,880
The way it's set up is they essentially have taken our last few years financial information.

1031
01:15:53,080 --> 01:15:59,480
I submitted the budget to them that it was mostly complete, certain projections.

1032
01:16:00,660 --> 01:16:09,480
And they have a certain amount of, they build a dashboard that is built on the next five years if we continue in the pace that we're on.

1033
01:16:09,900 --> 01:16:11,800
And it shows the fund balance.

1034
01:16:12,040 --> 01:16:13,580
It shows the department levels.

1035
01:16:13,640 --> 01:16:17,420
It shows the operating efficiencies and everything for the financial efficiencies of everything.

1036
01:16:17,420 --> 01:16:22,480
And then they have a certain amount of toggleable items that you click, okay,

1037
01:16:22,900 --> 01:16:27,260
let's see what happens if the November happens, bam.

1038
01:16:27,740 --> 01:16:29,840
And now you see the effects of that.

1039
01:16:30,380 --> 01:16:37,100
You know, if we wanted to devote 3 million to capital a year, that's an item.

1040
01:16:37,280 --> 01:16:40,620
Bam, you see, if we wanted to lower or raise the fire assessment, bam.

1041
01:16:40,860 --> 01:16:46,220
So there's a certain amount of action items that they'll be able to project how it will affect them.

1042
01:16:46,720 --> 01:16:52,200
So they're not going to be able – they're not going to straight up like provide us with information saying, you know,

1043
01:16:52,260 --> 01:16:55,000
hey, if November happens, then you should do this, this, and this, and get rid of this.

1044
01:16:55,380 --> 01:17:01,480
They're looking for our input – yeah, they're looking for our input to put in – to build the models for those factors

1045
01:17:01,480 --> 01:17:05,080
so then they can show us how that will happen, or how that will affect it.

1046
01:17:05,740 --> 01:17:11,920
So, Zobo, what we could see is if the general fund goes down – or because the Baffle Arm Tax goes down X percent

1047
01:17:12,340 --> 01:17:15,800
And you already have the percentages that goes to each department.

1048
01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:18,240
We could see what each department potentially is.

1049
01:17:18,300 --> 01:17:19,880
Oh, yes, yes, yes.

1050
01:17:19,880 --> 01:17:20,620
Yes, for sure.

1051
01:17:21,340 --> 01:17:24,100
Even if there wasn't a ballot on it, it's actually a good...

1052
01:17:24,100 --> 01:17:24,420
Absolutely.

1053
01:17:24,680 --> 01:17:26,880
...for us to look at before casting for five years out.

1054
01:17:27,140 --> 01:17:27,260
Yeah.

1055
01:17:27,540 --> 01:17:28,980
This is going to help us no matter what.

1056
01:17:29,160 --> 01:17:29,260
Absolutely.

1057
01:17:29,260 --> 01:17:33,960
We have that anyway, but this now fine-tunes it with an outside consultant.

1058
01:17:34,760 --> 01:17:36,020
We're not getting into their numbers.

1059
01:17:36,200 --> 01:17:37,160
They're doing it independently.

1060
01:17:41,280 --> 01:17:48,600
We're doing an internal to see if it compares, but in essence this will be a good resource.

1061
01:17:48,920 --> 01:17:55,280
And I think that timing in October will show obviously our citizens and the business owners

1062
01:17:55,280 --> 01:17:56,980
of what that impact will be.

1063
01:17:58,920 --> 01:18:06,080
Speaking of that, I hope many of you saw the recent Sunday editorial in the Orlando

1064
01:18:06,080 --> 01:18:12,580
sent them on this very issue. It was excellent if you haven't seen it. Go read it.

1065
01:18:17,140 --> 01:18:17,720
Yesterday's

1066
01:18:20,160 --> 01:18:31,260
editor, main editorial, was very, very good and explains critically all the issues that

1067
01:18:33,300 --> 01:18:40,360
If yes goes happens, all of the issues that will negatively impact residents through

1068
01:18:42,700 --> 01:18:42,880
no

1069
01:18:42,880 --> 01:18:43,520
fault of ours.

1070
01:18:44,600 --> 01:18:46,360
I thought it was an amazing editorial.

1071
01:18:48,730 --> 01:18:51,310
Matt, we have a busy September schedule.

1072
01:18:51,750 --> 01:18:52,250
Yes, sir.

1073
01:18:53,370 --> 01:18:57,510
So the next steps here, so there's a regular council meeting on September 1, but then the

1074
01:18:57,510 --> 01:19:02,530
Thursday of September 3, we have the tentative millage and budget meeting, which is a special

1075
01:19:02,530 --> 01:19:02,850
meeting.

1076
01:19:02,850 --> 01:19:11,630
So this will be putting forward for adoption the budget just built on the next year's money, no rollover whatsoever.

1077
01:19:12,390 --> 01:19:17,730
The fire assessment on Thursday, September 10th at 6 p.m. a week later.

1078
01:19:18,490 --> 01:19:23,830
And then the second public hearing, September 15th, this is a normal regular council meeting.

1079
01:19:24,270 --> 01:19:26,930
This is where we'll present the final budget for adoption.

1080
01:19:27,570 --> 01:19:35,350
The new monies for next year, plus any carry forwards, which is the PO rollovers and encumbrances.

1081
01:19:38,990 --> 01:19:43,750
So there's, as I mentioned previously, there's two or three items that I'm still waiting on.

1082
01:19:44,570 --> 01:19:48,270
One of them being, we have to figure out exactly how to do the Northeast CRA bond.

1083
01:19:48,610 --> 01:19:52,890
So next time I see you guys, I'll be able to lay out exactly how that happened

1084
01:19:52,890 --> 01:19:59,550
and what changes happened, or the results of those changes, I mean, so we'll lay all

1085
01:19:59,550 --> 01:20:07,650
that out for everybody. But this is, that is it, so if you guys have any questions, any

1086
01:20:08,430 --> 01:20:13,590
wanting to dive deeper into anything, I'm here for taking questions.

1087
01:20:13,590 --> 01:20:14,730
Thank you.

1088
01:20:15,590 --> 01:20:16,570
Well done.

1089
01:20:17,050 --> 01:20:17,690
Thank you.

1090
01:20:17,690 --> 01:20:18,430
Yeah, excellent.

1091
01:20:18,850 --> 01:20:19,010
Good job.

1092
01:20:19,530 --> 01:20:25,470
If we're going to conclude, I said two other things so I don't wait until next councilman

1093
01:20:25,470 --> 01:20:27,730
to mention it while we're here.

1094
01:20:30,680 --> 01:20:36,500
I attended the Sunday lecture at the library of the Rosenwald,

1095
01:20:42,830 --> 01:20:46,650
and it was two hours worth

1096
01:20:46,650 --> 01:20:54,490
of superb information on the importance of that building, which now is a daycare center.

1097
01:20:56,570 --> 01:21:06,190
And the importance, the important hand, for example, Collie Lott had in that, along with

1098
01:21:06,190 --> 01:21:14,990
Dr. Booker Washington and the boys and other very important people that put them out

1099
01:21:14,990 --> 01:21:24,570
Dora on the map national. So it was excellent if it's possible. And our archivist was there,

1100
01:21:24,970 --> 01:21:32,250
Aaron. And if there's a way that she could put together or somebody could put together

1101
01:21:32,250 --> 01:21:38,430
a little summary of that for all of us and for the public, if that's possible.

1102
01:21:41,270 --> 01:21:43,130
It impressed

1103
01:21:43,130 --> 01:21:53,590
impressed me. There were maybe 25 people there. It was very, very interesting and I'm really

1104
01:21:53,590 --> 01:21:59,390
glad I attended and be something that we all should know about the importance of that building

1105
01:21:59,390 --> 01:22:09,710
in the Northeast, historically. And secondly, Troy gave me a nice tour of the Bell Center.

1106
01:22:09,710 --> 01:22:15,050
It was Shirley and I were there and it is absolutely superb.

1107
01:22:16,150 --> 01:22:16,990
Thank you, Troy.

1108
01:22:19,730 --> 01:22:20,050
That's all.

1109
01:22:21,030 --> 01:22:22,010
I move we adjourn.

1110
01:22:23,780 --> 01:22:24,740
And nothing else.

1111
01:22:24,900 --> 01:22:25,100
OK.