[0:09] All right. >> Okay. [0:12] » Good evening everyone. >> Welcome to the township council meeting [0:16] of July 20, 2026. Please rise for the pledge of allegiance. [0:30] stands. [0:37] » Thank you, [0:41] » Madame Clerk. Would you do a roll call? >> Councilman Green [0:46] » here. >> Councilwoman Jane Jwitt, [0:48] » present. >> Councilman Mustakis, [0:49] » here. >> Deputy Mayor Caroline Coen, [0:52] » present. Public announcement. M um would you [0:56] please read the public announcement >> in compliance with the open public [0:59] meeting act of the state of New Jersey, uh adequate [1:04] notice of this meeting of the township council was provided in the following [1:07] manner in January 9th, 2026. Written notice of this meeting was posted on the [1:12] bulletin board in the Mount Laurel Municipal Center. Copies were sent to [1:15] the Burlington County Times and the your post. [1:20] Thank you. Bill le. I make a motion for the approval of the bill lease. May I [1:24] have a second? >> Second. [1:27] » Thank you. Now, >> Deputy Mayor Caroline Coen, [1:31] » present. >> I Yes, sir. [1:34] » Councilman Green, >> I. [1:35] » Councilwoman Janu. >> Hi, Councilman Mustakis. [1:38] » Hi. >> Thank you. Midi minutes. Uh, next is [1:42] approval of the minutes um meeting minutes. May I have a motion? I'll make [1:46] a motion. >> I'll second. [1:48] » Thank you. >> Councilman Mustakis. Hi, [1:50] » Councilwoman Jan Jet. >> Hi, [1:52] » Councilman Green. >> I, [1:54] » Deputy Mayor Kylen. >> Hi, [1:56] » and Deputy Mayor, prior to starting the resolutions, I just want to um clarify [2:00] for everybody that a lastm minute resolution was added uh resolution 182, [2:05] which is a change order recommended by the township engineer for improvements [2:10] that were done to Union Mill from Union Mill to Briggs Road. Perfect. [2:16] » Thank you, Meredith. Um, next is our consent agenda. This evening we are [2:21] moving with resolutions 26-R164 [2:27] through 26-R182. [2:30] Um, Meredith, would you please provide a summary on the resolutions? [2:34] » Resolution 164 and 165 are vet deductions recommended by our um tax [2:40] assessor. Resolution 166 and 167 are um grants that the township has received. [2:49] Resolution 168 is the is a co-op purchase also is 169 and uh 170 is a [2:59] contract between our EMS workers. 171 is a contract between our clerical workers. [3:07] 172 is a contract between our supervisors. And I'm happy to say that [3:11] negotiates all of our union contracts. So, everyone will be under contract uh [3:17] effective next year. Resolution 173 is placing leans on properties in which [3:23] public works had to go out and either and cut their grass due to um the height [3:29] and not responding to notices. Resolution 174 is a bond release at the [3:36] recommendation of the township engineer. 175 is appointing police chaplain for [3:41] the police department. Uh this is a yearly appointment. Resolution 176 is [3:47] appro approving a grant drive sober or get pulled over 2026 state Labor Day [3:53] crackdown. 177 and 178 are licensing agreements [4:00] um that are recommended by our township engineer. Resolution [4:05] uh 179 is the annual resolution that we have to do to be able to purchase under [4:10] state contract. Resolution 180 is a change of a name of an existing cannabis [4:17] retailer and 181 is authorizing uh the planning board to conduct a preliminary [4:22] investigation into a redevelopment zone. and 182 is that resolution I was [4:28] discussing which was a change order for improvements done from Union Mill Road [4:32] to Briggs Road. >> Thank you, Marit. Um, may I have a a [4:36] motion to approve resolutions 26-R64 through 26-R [4:44] 182? >> I'll make a motion. [4:46] » I'll second. >> Councilman Mustakis. I [4:50] » Councilman Green. Hi, Councilwoman Janu. Hi, Deputy Mayor Ken Cole. I Okay. Next, [4:56] um we are uh we are moving with the ordinance for second reading and public [5:01] hearing. Let's start with ordinance 26-9, [5:05] » an ordinance amending chapter 148 of the municipal code to create a no parking [5:10] zone on a portion of Elbow Lane. [5:15] » Okay. At this time, we are um going to open to the public um for ordinance 26-9 [5:21] only. So if you have any any comments or wish to speak on this resolution only, [5:28] please come come to the front. >> Okay. Seeing none, I now close the [5:34] public hearing. U may I have a motion to adopt the ordinance 2 20 26 2026 I'll [5:41] make >> 19. [5:43] » I'll second. >> Thank you. Next we have [5:46] » Councilman Mustakis. >> Hi. [5:48] » Councilwoman Janja. >> Hi. [5:49] » Councilman Green. >> Hi. Deputy Mayor Catalan Cole. [5:53] » I thank you, Meredith. >> Next ordinance. Um, ordinance 26-20, [5:59] » an ordinance amending chapter 95A of the municipal code entitled licensing to [6:04] confirm process for licensing agreement requests. And for the public's [6:08] knowledge, this is just changing the licensing agreement. Instead of having [6:12] to come in front of on a council meeting, it's actually just going to [6:16] continue to go to the engineer. If the engineer recommends it, it will then [6:20] come to the manager's office to be signed off on. [6:24] » Thank you. Anyone um wish to speak on this ordinance? [6:30] » Okay. Thank you. Can I have a motion? >> I'll make a motion. [6:33] » Second. >> Thank you. [6:36] » Councilman uh Councilwoman Janet. >> Hi. [6:38] » Councilman Green. >> Hi. [6:40] » Councilman Mustakis. >> I. [6:42] » Deputy Mayor Catalan Co. >> I. Next we have ordinance 2026-21. [6:50] » An ordinance repealing ordinance 2026-15. [7:01] » Thank you. Um opening to the public you wish to [7:06] speak on this ordinance only. Thank you. >> Hi. How are you this morning? Deputy [7:10] Mayor Trevor Shell 164 Camera Lane. I should have asked this question much [7:15] sooner, but uh I'm curious because I don't remember what ordinance 2026-15 [7:23] was. >> It was the lefthand turn. [7:25] » The lefthand turn. Can you can you just give us a little bit more [7:29] » info on that? >> So, [7:32] » sorry, Meredith. A couple months ago, there was an [7:36] ordinance that would prohibit lefthand turns at certain additional times from [7:41] Tamo Shanter onto church. Um, it was adopted and then lots of residents came [7:48] out at the last meeting and it was u motioned and seconded to introduce a new [7:55] ordinance to repeal it so we could have more time to vet it with the engineers [8:00] to discuss it further. [8:04] That help? Good. >> Okay. Um, anyone anyone else that wishes [8:09] to speak? [8:18] » Uh, thanks. [8:22] » You're tall, Trevor. Good evening. Amy Griffin. Um, I live on South Brentwood [8:26] Drive in the Ramblewood section. Um, I would like an update on the status of [8:30] the repeat traffic engineering safety study that was requested and discussed [8:35] at the last meeting. Meredith indicated that that study could take approximately [8:39] 60 to 90 days. And understanding that time frame, when can residents [8:44] realistically expect to review the report and discuss potential next steps? [8:48] » Sure. myself and the police department have met and we're not going to do that [8:52] study until route the route 73 project is finalized and we have final plans [8:58] from the state of New Jersey. I spoke with Kimberly and Nance at the state. [9:01] I'm still uh you know they still don't know if they will be able to get every [9:06] property that they need to make those improvements and put that bypass. So um [9:12] that I mean that overpass. So until we have a final plan and we know how it's [9:16] going to affect the neighborhood and how they can and can't come out onto Route [9:21] 73, we're going to wait for the study until we have the final plan from the [9:26] state so we know what exactly they're going to be doing. [9:30] » So years is what you're indicating. >> Well, they're they're [9:34] » years. >> No, Kimberly Nance says that I should [9:37] have a final plan by next year. So for the next year, it's a reasonable [9:44] expectation that of this council. I just want to be clear. It's a reasonable [9:49] expectation that I should be happy with 2,000 cars driving past my house on any [9:56] given weekday >> and I'll wait for I'll wait for your [10:00] answers. Go ahead. You can one by one if you want to answer that. That's a [10:03] reasonable >> I think the town council I think the [10:04] count town council is going to take the recommendation of their township and [10:08] manager and the police chief and their tra traffic lieutenant that think that [10:13] the engineer needs to see the whole puzzle. You know like we talked about [10:19] you know that potentially if we enforce that ordinance and then the state does [10:24] do their plan it would affect people exiting the rear. So obviously we want [10:29] to know the whole puzzle before we spend money on the township engineers to do [10:33] another study. >> But you enlisted the township engineer [10:38] to do a study. You took the recommendations and then you [10:43] met with resistance signs. [10:45] » It wasn't the township. >> Whomever it was people would sign police [10:48] department >> showed up and then we quickly repealed [10:51] that. And now and now I'm as a resident I'm being told that my safety doesn't [10:58] matter >> and that the volume of 2,000 car over [11:02] 2,000 cars a day driving past my residence is not important. [11:08] » My property value, my the safety of my children, the safety of my family, [11:12] that's not important. >> I I don't know anywhere in the minutes [11:15] where anybody has said that your safety is not important. [11:19] the township is taking its time to do this correctly. The the police officers [11:25] identified an issue that we thought we were taking care of. Now the engineers [11:29] want to take a look at it because hey, they're the professionals and they're [11:32] going to take a look at it. Now there's also timing issues with the DOT. So we [11:36] have to let all these work together or we're going to create more problems. The [11:39] problem sometimes with government is we do rush to make decisions and in this [11:43] case we we rushed that ordinance and it wasn't appropriate time to have that [11:48] adopted. So we p we're pulling it back so that everybody can take a good strong [11:54] evaluation of what needs to be done at that entire intersection and try to make [11:59] a plan that is more appropriate to everybody. You included, your children [12:03] included, >> right? my children that are 14 and 16 [12:08] and that have been dealing with this their entire lives because we continue [12:14] to bring it to council. We continue to bring it to the township and we get [12:17] absolutely nowhere. I took it to the county. They said, "Sounds like it's a [12:21] gripe with Mount Laurel." I don't know what else to do to impress upon you that [12:26] this is a safety issue. And to say that we're going to wait and [12:32] continue to wait another 2 3 4 years. How is that a solution to a safety [12:39] issue? >> I think because it's a safety issue, [12:41] that's what we are taking our time to make sure we make the best decision. I [12:45] mean, having the community here and hearing from the community that is a [12:49] concern. That's what we wanted to make sure we make the right decision. Right. [12:53] And yet down the street a flashing pedestrian walkway went up overnight [12:58] » from the county. >> From the county, right? You can go back [13:01] to the Yeah. From the county, >> right? I continue to go to the county. [13:04] The county says my complaint is with Mount Laurel Township [13:08] » and we and we understand your complaint. Police are aware of your complaint. They [13:13] will continue to keep an eye and enforce. [13:15] » How many tickets were issued for turning on South Brentwood and Tamishanter in [13:20] 2026? [13:23] I mean, >> we don't have that information here, but [13:26] we have we can make sure we have asked for it before. I've asked for [13:30] the number of tickets generated and issued in 2024, 2025, 2025, 2026. I got [13:37] nothing. >> I've asked for that data for the past 10 [13:40] years. >> That data is not logged by by location. [13:42] » No, it's not. >> So, the ordinance, it's not logged by [13:45] the ordinance. No, >> the violation of the ordinance. No, I I [13:48] serve as a municipal prosecutor in many towns that the tickets are not logged by [13:52] location. They're logged by the officer who issues the ticket. Obviously, [13:57] they're logged by the town, but they're not logged by intersection. Like, I [14:00] can't run a report and and find out all the tickets at town center. It's just [14:04] not possible to do that. >> But it's a turning restriction [14:08] violation, correct? During posted hours, >> right? [14:12] » What your >> That should be pretty easy to [14:14] » No. >> No. Because you could write a speeding [14:16] ticket there. You could write >> that would be great. Speeding ticket [14:19] would be great. According to the traffic study, people were going 54 miles an [14:23] hour in a 25 res. >> But my point is you can write multiple [14:25] tickets at the location. I can't tell you what's happening. [14:28] » Multiple tickets would be amazing. >> They're written everywhere. [14:31] » The system doesn't allow you to run a report in that nature. [14:34] » Okay. It it does seem like a failure of the [14:39] system that you can't generate that. >> We'll tell the attorney general. [14:43] » Okay. Okay. And so where do I go from here? because if not, I'm gonna come [14:47] back every single month and I'm gonna keep talking about this issue. That's [14:51] fine. So, >> but you're right. You can continue to [14:54] communicate with Lieutenant Dra Almo and the traffic department. At this time, [14:59] it's his job to make sure enforcement is happening out on the road. Um, it [15:04] directly falls under him, but at this time, there's no further update. [15:08] » So, ticket data between the hours of 7 and 9:00 a.m. that you won't be able to [15:11] generate would be up to Lieutenant Gar Alamo. [15:15] » No, ma'am. What I meant is it's his enforcement to make sure that he puts [15:19] officers out there, >> which he has said he's unable to do [15:23] because traffic accidents happen in the rush hours of the morning. [15:27] » I don't think those were his exact words, but [15:29] » okay, that is exactly what he said. So, I'm really looking at this council. I'm [15:35] really disappointed because repeated >> invitations [15:39] » council also has an obligation to also hear the other residents in the [15:43] neighborhood here >> but they were here they were here during [15:48] » I think they're going to speak next m >> and they do not live on South Brentwood [15:51] Drive >> I don't know where they when they give [15:53] their address we'll know where they were >> okay [15:56] » behind you that want to speak on that >> I I look forward to that [15:59] » I mean and we thank you for for for raising your voice um I just wanted to [16:04] clarify Most of these council have kids as well [16:07] and our priority is the safety of our community. So that's exactly what we are [16:12] here trying to find the the right answer. So thank you. [16:14] » Okay. [16:21] » Okay. We have [16:25] » Yes. [16:29] Good evening. [16:33] » 21 [16:40] years of [16:46] traffic all over just because I suburban when it comes to our neighborhood. [16:55] Tamo Shanner access and that's word is called access is what is important to [17:03] the neighbor I am not downplay safety I'm a parent I raised children [17:10] is important concern all of us when you're looking at redirecting or [17:19] implementing some form of change it needs to be looked as a community. There [17:26] were 498 signatures [17:31] on online form requesting for the township [17:37] to re-evaluate and repeal this ordinance which they did. give them more time to [17:44] maybe look at this broader see if there's another way to appreciate. Thank [17:49] you very much. When it comes to that access, it's important because me as a [17:55] resident and I work out of my home. I access that daily. [18:02] If you close that, you are going to increase traffic, [18:10] past where there are more than just [18:15] one or two streets. Looking at redirecting traffic down Bramblewood [18:20] Parkway to the next vein, which is going to be Brierwood. Is Brierwood aware of [18:28] this possibility? I don't know. I have to tell you, my husband and I were very [18:33] active to make sure that come out. Briwood was where this ordinance was [18:39] going to impact us as a community. So I really do think [18:46] township for looking at this as a whole for us as a community. I never ever [18:55] children's safety discussion data that was discussed 2100 vehicles [19:04] by the last meeting that was not hard data that was an app. And so I think if [19:11] there is to be a reevaluation it should be hard. [19:17] When it comes to the Route 73 issue, I am aware of some of what was discussed [19:24] and I know I might have a good time, but the fact is that is going to impact my [19:30] neighborhood as well as a resident of 40 years. what you are going to do, not you [19:36] personally, but the township, county, state, if they redirect that traffic, [19:44] it's going to major impact on my I can't imagine what that's going to [19:51] look like from my house, some form of ramp uh crossing over Route 73 because [19:59] from an aeronautical standpoint, you have to start at one point reach that [20:04] peak to make sure factory sailor can get underneath it where it's going to level [20:10] up on the other side of it's going to be a nightmare for us and [20:16] you know and develop so again I am very concerned for this entire issue not a [20:23] few years right um and I'm not going any I would really like to see that this is [20:29] reviewed overall from [20:34] Shanner, South Brentwood, Ramblewood as a whole, Brierwood, Route 73, Church, [20:40] it's it's a cluster. And is there a right way to resolve that? I don't know. [20:47] That's what the engineers are for. I just want for you to know how I [20:55] » Thank you. Thank you. [21:06] and we said we [21:11] continue. [21:39] They go through this. [22:17] years. [22:38] reevaluation. [22:45] » You're welcome. >> Thank you. [22:46] » Thank you. >> Thank you. [22:48] Anyone else? [22:58] » Good evening to the council. Appreciate the time to talk and having this [23:02] discourse. Very important. My name is Edwin Gribbon. I live at 543 South [23:06] Brentwood. Amy's my wife. I back her up 100% for a lot of the reasons she [23:10] stated. Uh just a couple things from the council meeting last month. Uh just to [23:15] put some things in perspective. Um, I know there were some members of the [23:19] community that um put the traffic study numbers out there and put some numbers [23:24] out there. So, I know we know the saying numbers don't lie, but they have to have [23:28] some context behind them. So, just want to put a little context behind some of [23:31] those numbers that were spoken about last last month on some of the traffic [23:34] studies. Um, and then on the survey as well, or I don't know how much the [23:39] council or the township takes into consideration the petitions, but I have [23:43] information on petitions as well that might, you know, you might want to hear. [23:47] Uh, so yeah, we had one of the residents. I know there was a study done [23:49] in April where there was about 2100 cars a day going through for those three or [23:53] four days that detect Lieutenant Dalamo, DJ Alamo, I'm sorry, did that study and [23:58] got those numbers. There was also a study done February 10th through [24:02] February 15th. Uh what the resident did state that there was only about 5,000 [24:06] cars that went through. The average speed was approximately 18 miles an hour [24:09] for those number of days. So the volume and the the volume and the speed was [24:13] really not a problem. Put that a little context again. There are the numbers. [24:17] They don't lie. That's what happened. Put it into some context. We had a [24:20] snowstorm. There was debris on the ground. There was freezing temperatures [24:24] that entire week. 5,000 cars still came through that road down south Brentwood. [24:29] Okay. Slowest speed 8 miles an hour. [24:33] Average speed 18. Somebody actually came through at 52. That's the highest speed. [24:37] So obviously we'd like to see 18, but again we're averaging. If somebody's [24:43] doing 18, that's the average speed. Somebody's doing 52. There's people [24:46] obviously kind of speeding through the through there on a on a bad day. There [24:50] were 78 enforcable violations in that four or five day period. So even in that [24:55] weather, there were 78 enforceable violations that were caught. That means [25:00] I believe I read up and correct me if I'm wrong that that is at least I [25:03] believe 5 to seven miles hour over the speed limit and that's on a snowy icy [25:09] road down South Brentwood Drive. Okay, so that's just a little context behind [25:13] the numbers just to let you know what those mean. Um, with regards to the [25:19] survey or the petition, I apologize. Um, well, first I want to say there's 50 [25:26] there's 150 houses in the entire development. Only 50 on South Brentwood [25:29] that see the brunt of that traffic. None of these cars, unless they're residents [25:33] of Bair or Tammy Shantern, use that road. So, all 2100 cars are coming up [25:39] and down. They're not seeing any of this cut through traffic. None of it. It's [25:44] all their residents and the people that live in those homes. So, they're not [25:47] impacted by it. They don't see it. Okay. On that petition, I'm glad it was [25:53] brought up, 498 signatures. Out of those 498 signatures, [25:58] 63% that supported have a zip code of 08054, [26:03] 08053, or 08057. That means there's close to 40% of the [26:08] people that are not a resident of Mount Laurel or one of the adjoining [26:14] municipalities or or towns. >> So, I don't know where the signatures [26:18] are coming from. I don't know how that's working. I know there's maybe three or [26:22] four people that I saw on there from south from South Brentwood, but the [26:26] large majority um obviously are I believe the people from Bair and the [26:31] people from town that are having the issue. So 63% almost 40% two- fifths. So [26:36] 200 people that signed the petition are not from our zip code or from a zip code [26:41] to an adjoining township or town. So I think that's a [26:47] little bit of we need to look at that as well. Again, this study was done and [26:51] this was the recommendation. When the things went up, the signs went [26:55] up, things got better. Be honest with you, when those boards were out there, [26:58] we did see less volume. We did see people slow down a bit. So it did have [27:01] an impact. Now we know that there studies have to be done. I appreciate [27:05] the works the engineers have to do and we'll be there hopefully in the next [27:09] year or so. I want to put out there, is there something we can do in the [27:13] meantime, a temporary fix? I know we had the boards out there. Can we say local [27:17] traffic only? Anything to maybe even just curb a little bit the volume of [27:22] over 2,000 cars a day coming through. I just putting that out there to the [27:26] council. I don't know whose responsibility that would be, but at [27:29] least to have some type of, you know, maybe two if there are some stops there. [27:34] Residents, if you have an 08054 on your license, maybe it's legitimate. Okay, [27:39] you can come through. There's no ticket, there's no warning, whatever the case [27:42] might be. Anybody else? you know, there's got to be a way that we can come [27:45] to um a solution, a temporary solution to kind of just quiet it down just a [27:51] little bit. So, there are just some numbers ahead. I appreciate the [27:55] council's um listening and we're just looking for something temporary to [27:59] alleviate the volume and and keep us safe. [28:02] » Thank you. >> Thanks for the time. [28:04] » Thank you so much. And that's something we can we can look at um merid um on [28:09] finding shortterm solutions. [28:13] » Like I said, Lieutenant DJ Alamo will make sure that patrol officers are out [28:17] there patrolling the street. [28:22] » Okay. Thank you. Um is there anybody else that wish to speak on this [28:26] ordinance? [28:34] Sorry, we'll Trevor Shell 164 Kimberlain. We'll consider my question [28:38] to Meredith a point of inquiry. Uh just to refresh everyone's memory of what [28:43] we're talking about. Um I have driven around Marlton, Medford, I've driven [28:50] around Morristown and all over those towns. They have speed bumps and they're [28:56] a wonderful invention. I've driven all up and down the east coast and I've come [29:02] wait a second. I've come across them. Sorry, Magna, but I do want to I've come [29:06] across them and they're used quite effectively. And I'm not talking about [29:10] the little plastic ones that >> did anymore, Trevor. Because I'll tell [29:13] you why. When B school buses go by, believe it or not, residents actually [29:18] who live on streets that have the speed humps beg for them to come out because [29:23] their house shakes when buses or trucks go over the speed hump. So, they're [29:29] actually not necessarily recommended anymore because of the issues that it [29:34] causes residents. I can even um remember we had them removed on Beaver because [29:40] they created such an issue. What type of speed bumps were they? Were they the [29:45] plastic ones that were bolted into the ground or were they this were they the [29:49] asphalt ones that are the large curve that are like this long and this this [29:56] wide >> and there's issues with boot. But [29:59] » did any of the other townships in the state get this same memo that you did? [30:05] Because and I'm not trying to be fresh with you. Please understand me. I [30:09] respect you. I'm not trying to be fresh. But I am making a point. because many [30:13] many >> I understand being upset. I understand [30:16] that there's traffic. I I mean, we're going to have police out there [30:20] patrolling the issue. We will continue to look at it as there's improvements, [30:24] but at the same time, like the solicitor said, we're not just going to put a [30:28] solution in that we then know is going to create another problem. And you know [30:33] for instance like I said Beaver A which is also a cut through that has high [30:39] traffic sometimes speeding you know they wanted the same thing that you're saying [30:44] the speed humps and then we ended up having to take them out because they [30:48] created such issues when school buses were going over them. So I hear you and [30:54] we will continue to look at the issue. You know what I mean? And the police [30:59] department does care about safety. They're always looking at things, but [31:04] tonight we're not going to make any type of, you know, promise or agreement on [31:08] anything cuz the situation's still being evaluated. [31:11] » I'm still going to continue to post some suggestions. Thank you for You've made [31:16] your position very clear. >> It's very It's crystal clear, Meredith. [31:20] And I'm going to continue pushing back against your position because I think [31:24] that there's other things that we can do. As a resident, I drive around Mount [31:30] Laurel all the time. That's not my side of town, but I do go over there and and [31:35] I'm speaking to the whole council, too. I've noticed in the last 6 years since [31:39] this council has taken over, we've reduced the speed limit all throughout [31:45] town. And that's probably very appropriate because we've had a lot of [31:49] speeding issues. I think Birchwood, we've reduced the speed limit from 35 or [31:54] 30 down to 25. uh Martyr A, we've reduced the speed limit down. It's not [31:59] an uncommon thing. Why can't we reduce the speed limit down to 15 or 20 miles [32:04] an hour down South Brentwood? It's the cost of a post or two and a couple of [32:10] signs to hang and it's the writing >> regulations as to when you're allowed to [32:15] reduce. >> There's you said there's state [32:19] regulations. >> Yes. [32:20] » But isn't that our town road? 25 miles per hour is the lowest you can post on a [32:25] public street. Can't push you can't do 15. Can't do 10. [32:31] » Really? >> Correct. [32:32] » And that's is that a state of New Jersey law? That's [32:36] » okay. Didn't know that. So, thank you. Uh because it would be it would seem [32:40] simple to lower the speed limit and that might deter some cut through traffic. [32:45] You've got to do something now. And I have one final question. The [32:49] intersections that actually run along there. So, Tamo Shanter and um and South [32:56] Brentwood. And then I know if you continue on down towards the school and [33:02] and out that way, there's another street that comes in there. Are those all [33:06] properly crosswalk marked? Like, is there paint down at both of those [33:12] intersections indicating crosswalks? Are there signs up indicating crosswalks? [33:18] Are there >> We just looked at all crosswalks. [33:21] » Okay. There was a list of ones that haded to be repainted. That would be a [33:26] question for Jerry and I can have him call you tomorrow and go over it with [33:29] me. >> I'll drive over tonight and verify [33:31] myself. I'm just >> I mean, yeah, [33:34] » you can have call me. I love talking to Jerry. But I But seriously, like that [33:38] seems like a pretty easy thing. I think you might have ruffled some feathers, [33:42] Meredith, not meaning to by just being like, "Nope, we're going to wait on the [33:46] state." And we all know that. >> It's not It's not to ruffle feathers [33:50] forever. It's me giving an honest answer. I could sit up here and I, you [33:54] know, could, you know, give the answer, Amy, that [34:01] you're looking for, but then it wouldn't be a truthful answer. I'm trying to give [34:04] you a truthful answer that we're trying to wait. I've spoken to Kimberly Nance [34:09] last week because the sooner I can get a final plan, I even asked her to send me [34:15] exactly where they are today and what the final plan is and the state still [34:19] has it. So, I'm trying to work in conjunction with the DOT because our [34:24] engineers are going to want to see that when they're evaluating the situation. [34:28] So, I'm also trying to be respectful of taxpayer money to make sure that I [34:33] provide the engineer with everything so that they have all of the data, all of [34:37] the updated plans so that they can give the best advice and report to the town [34:42] council. You know what I mean? like I don't want to authorize the engineers to [34:47] go out there do a study then the council make the recommendation for them to [34:53] adopt something then the state does something and then the residents come [34:58] back and say hey you know why did you do that because look at what the state did [35:02] and then I turn around and I say to the council well because we had you know our [35:06] engineer evaluate it without the final plan from the state [35:11] » okay >> okay so it's not it's not to ruffle [35:14] feathers. It's really to try to give an honest answer of what where we're at and [35:19] why. >> And I don't think that it was your [35:21] intention to I think there was a miscommunication because a clear [35:24] expectation was stated that the study was [35:28] » so I talked to Kimberly Nance and I couldn't get the final plan because [35:32] they're still in the process of doing edit domain. [35:35] » And then have we considered asking Burlington County to put a traffic light [35:38] in a TAM? >> I don't think. And would we consider [35:43] doing that? [35:47] » I don't think they would touch that. Just like [35:49] » you think because of the state issue. >> Because of the state issue. I think [35:51] they're going to wait as well. >> Okay. I'm just making suggestions. Maybe [35:56] we can do something. There's got to be something that we can do in between now [36:01] and then. >> I mean, and [36:03] » sorry. Go ahead, >> Mar. I mean, the county requires a [36:06] traffic study with a light, but they also they don't install the light. We [36:10] do. And the taxpayer fee is the $350,000 that it is to put a light in. [36:15] » I don't I don't have an engineering background, but if you put a light [36:18] there, >> people may find it easier to get out [36:21] there and there may be even more traffic. [36:23] » Yeah. >> Yeah. [36:26] » Somebody with an engineering degree would have to evaluate. [36:28] » All right. So, thank you all for your time. Just making suggestions because I [36:32] think we all care about our town and its safety. And I I do think also to the [36:37] residents that came up here and spoke, I think they should be able to leave their [36:41] neighborhood however they like and get into the neighborhood. It's unfortunate [36:46] because cut through traffic affects their ability to use their own street [36:51] and that's unfortunate. So, we've got to come up with something you guys can't [36:55] » Yeah, that's what we working on it. Um, thank you. Is there anybody else? Okay, [37:00] I'm closing the public portion. May I May I have a motion? [37:04] Make a motion. >> Can I have a second? [37:06] » I'll second. Councilman Musak. >> I. [37:10] » Councilman Green. >> Hi. [37:11] » Councilwoman Jan Joa. >> Hi. [37:13] » Deputy Mayor Caroline Coen. >> I. [37:17] At this time, um, I will open the meeting for the bully participation. If [37:21] anybody wish to speak on a different issue, wants to address the council, [37:26] please stand up and come in front of of of of the microphone. [37:34] Yeah. >> Hi, good evening. [37:41] » Compliment. >> My name is Dave Lip9 [37:51] as you know [37:57] over two billion notion billion dollars. [38:02] Been a coordinated campaign to get citizens bank stop [38:08] Laurel disengaged citizens bank number [38:15] that have pulled their funds three days ago citizens bank announced [38:20] they would no longer private [38:26] I'm just here to thank this will save lives [38:31] well Thanks so much. [38:34] » Thank you, Dave. Thank you. [38:39] » Okay. Do we have anyone else? [38:50] How you doing? My name is Carl. I'm not comfortable with saying where I live [38:54] because of certain people have uh doxed me online. Um, but I just wanted to say [38:59] good evening to everybody, council members and fellow residents. Uh, I [39:02] wanted to say that the township did an amazing job putting the fireworks uh, [39:07] event together. Was well organized, well attended, and I appreciated everyone who [39:12] worked hard to make that a success. Uh, I just wanted to make something clear. I [39:17] have tremendous respect for our police officers, firefighters, EMTs, and all of [39:22] our first responders. They deserve appreciation and thanks every single [39:26] day. Now, why I'm here? I'm here because I'm [39:29] dis disappointed that Mount Laurel has chose to not recognize Independence Day. [39:35] This wasn't just another Fourth of July. This year marked the 250th anniversary [39:39] of the signing of the Declaration of Independence, a historic milestone that [39:43] only happens once in our lifetime. Yet, the township's official event was [39:47] promoted simply as First Responders Night. The flyer never mentions [39:51] Independence Day. It never mentioned the 4th of July. never even mentions [39:56] America's 250th birthday. If someone from another town saw this flyer, they [40:01] would probably have no idea that it was meant for uh July 4th. Why uh how did we [40:08] get to this point of renaming the 4th of July to first responders night? Uh it's [40:15] not just another day on the calendar. It is the day our nation declared its [40:19] independence. It is the day we celebrate the freedoms that generations of [40:22] Americans have fought and died to preserve. It's the true no kings day. [40:27] Our first responders deserve to be honored. No one is questioning that. But [40:31] America's birthday should not be rebranded into something else. We don't [40:35] celebrate Christmas by calling it teacher appreciation night. We don't [40:38] celebrate Memorial Day by calling it public works appreciation day. Those [40:42] groups deserve recognition. But on their own day, the same principle applies [40:46] here. Fourth of July is America's birthday. to remain America's birthday. [40:50] Tonight, I'm asking that we rebrand uh to actually be Fourth of July, [40:57] Independence Day event. Um there's National Night Out that all the other [41:03] townships were put out or put on in September, [41:08] October. I'm just curious as to why we chose to rename Fourth of July to first [41:16] responders night when we could have National Night Out [41:20] » because we partner with fire and EMS. National Night Out is just a police [41:26] issue. Fire used to do fire prevention night. I don't think it was intentional. [41:32] The township had a bunch of 250th celebration items at give free [41:38] giveaways. We gave out over 2,000 cookies that two said 250th anniversary. [41:44] We were handing out American flags. I mean, if I was being honest with you, [41:49] it's not intentional. I think the reason that we don't call it Fourth of July is [41:53] because our neighboring town, Eve Sham Township, does fireworks on Fourth of [41:57] July and it's just we didn't want to confuse anybody that we were shooting [42:01] fireworks off on Fourth of July. I have no issue moving forward putting [42:07] something about Fourth of July on the flyer, but the event in itself is also [42:14] to, you know, National Night Out every town is doing. So this is actually a [42:19] time where you can come out and you can see all of emergency services and we [42:23] feel like our police and our EMS and our fire. We we combine it with wanting to [42:29] celebrate, you know, Fourth of July, but we can definitely add something to the [42:33] flyer. There was no intention there of snubbing. We have proudly celebrated [42:39] that we're 250th birthday. I mean, from the purchase of the cookies to handing [42:45] out free American flags to residents at the event. Um, so I mean I hear what [42:51] you're saying and we're open to making a change on the flyer but yeah [42:54] » and I wanted to add to that Merid that um the police department had a 250 [42:59] t-shirts and also when we started event we had the honor of the participation of [43:04] Senator Troy Singletonly woman Karum Murphy our chief um of each um safety [43:11] department were there and we all address as you know a celebration of the 250 of [43:16] this beautiful country. So um on the Facebook post as well we we had the [43:21] flyer but we also mentioned the 250 and the history and why we are um proud to [43:27] be part of of of this country. So >> why we did the drone was for the 250th. [43:33] We normally don't do a drone show. So there was multiple, you know, uh, post [43:39] that that was specifically just happening this year to celebrate, um, [43:44] the 250th birthday of the United States. >> I'm I'm going to reiterate. I I don't [43:50] disagree with you. I think might have been maybe a little bit uh maybe a [43:54] missed opportunity and I think we should be open to it for next year. I I don't [43:59] disagree with what you're saying, but at the same time, I think Meredith is right [44:03] and the deputy mayor is right. It was definitely promoted there as a 250th [44:09] » and uh and people >> you're really the first person that's [44:13] brought this up honestly and we love to hear from everyone but the people that I [44:16] heard from they loved it and they love where we're supporting our EMS or police [44:21] and whatnot but maybe we can find definitely a place for it and this was [44:25] the year I see your point. >> Can I ask when it was changed because it [44:29] seems like it was changed in the last couple years. We went to this was our [44:34] third third year of doing the event because what happened was [44:39] » um fire, EMS, police, OEM, we all work very closely together um you know and [44:46] there was fire prevention night in October then there was uh national night [44:51] out but we were also competing with other towns like for instance a lot of [44:55] people didn't come to our national night out because you know you had national [44:59] night out in Lumberton and they did fireworks with National Night Out. So [45:03] when >> I think Sherry Hill their night that [45:06] night, too. >> So what we uh so the when all the chiefs [45:10] got together, they said, "What if we just did one event?" So like you didn't [45:14] have to go to fire prevention night, you didn't have to go to national like and [45:17] we were all in one place together since we all worked together. And then that's [45:22] when the town council had decided um that they wanted to do fireworks. And we [45:27] said, "Well, what if we did the event prior to the fireworks?" And we [45:31] » and I'm gonna give credit to the council woman on the left. [45:34] » Oh, >> for fireworks. She wanted fireworks. We [45:36] got fireworks. So, good job to her. But >> yeah. So, and we wanted to be a little [45:42] different. There's a lot of towns that you just go out and all they do is shoot [45:46] off fireworks. um we wanted to be able to celebrate and [45:50] I don't know if you um attended the event but like everything that we try to [45:55] hand out does have to do with the Fourth of July, you know, like we make sure [46:00] everything's red, white, and blue. We give out flags, you know, and it's all [46:04] free to everybody, but it's not like we're handing out, [46:09] you know, um like police items. There are some police items, but it's it we [46:15] try to incorporate it so to make it a bigger event and a bigger celebration. [46:20] » Can I make a suggestion and to just have it like [46:23] » uh first responders night and Independence Day? Like I don't get why [46:27] we had to like drop off Independence Day, Fourth of July. I get it. Towns [46:32] spread their fireworks event, you know, like that whole week. Nothing really [46:36] happens on Fourth of July. But the fact that like we can change the wording [46:40] » has been completely honestly on the Facebook post from the township. I don't [46:44] remember seeing anything on there for 250th [46:47] » prior to everything. >> I wonder it was under like if you [46:49] clicked on it and then you looked under the like where she writes a description [46:55] and but >> I hear you and we'll definitely make a [46:59] change. >> Yeah, Carl. I I think [47:00] » I welcome the suggestion agree. >> Yeah. And also the only thing the only [47:04] thing I'll add is that it's our our event's not always on the 4th of July. [47:08] So that would probably be confusing for people too. Like that's why [47:11] » we just didn't want people, you know, we we made a promise with our neighboring [47:14] town of Eve Sham that we would never shoot fireworks off on July 4th. [47:19] » And and there's multiple reasons. One, they've been doing fireworks way longer [47:23] than we have. But we also support each other. They help us with traffic for our [47:28] event. And then Mount Laurel helps Eve Jam with traffic on their event. So, I [47:33] do think maybe we didn't use the word July 4th. We just didn't want anybody to [47:36] show up on the wrong date. Exactly. But >> independence that absolutely we can I [47:42] like the suggestion. >> I do too. And I and I appreciate you [47:45] bringing it to our attention >> and I the show was amazing. The [47:48] fireworks lasted for 30 something minutes. I didn't I didn't catch the [47:52] drone show, but um and I saw, you know, all the other uh attractions and stuff [47:57] like that out there. It was great. Like I said, I just I feel like we look away. [48:01] I get it. Again, it's not on the 4th of July. [48:05] » All the other towns usually don't do it on the 4th of July either. I just feel [48:08] like it's a disrespect to our country that we just decided to rebrand it [48:12] basically again fully backing, you know, first [48:15] responders, police, everybody. But I just the name that got taken away from [48:19] it, I have a problem with that. So, >> yeah. And I don't think it was [48:22] intentional in any way. And we appreciate you bringing it to our [48:25] attention. So, next time we'll we'll be better. [48:27] » Okay. Definitely. >> Thank you. [48:31] Okay. Do we have anyone else? [48:37] » Okay. Seeing none. >> Oh, we closed it. [48:42] » Yes. >> Just kidding. Come on up. Come on up. [48:48] » You should watch me. [laughter] >> Good evening everyone. Trevor Shell 164 [48:53] Camberlane. Um, I do want to thank the township for a lovely evening. That was [48:59] a phenomenal night. And the drone show, Carl, you missed a very patriotic drone [49:04] show. I appreciated seeing the Statue of Liberty. I appreciated seeing the [49:08] Liberty Bell. I appreciated seeing our uh town with a little heart in the state [49:14] of New Jersey. That was really cool. I think the most important thing that I [49:18] appreciated seeing was what looked like maybe George Washington praying and uh [49:24] taking a knee kneeling. There was a there was definitely a George Washington [49:28] in this guy. I have a picture of it and it looks like he was kneeling and I know [49:32] there's a famous portrait of George Washington kneeling and praying and um I [49:37] wonder and hope and and actually I pray that George that God still hears George [49:42] Washington's prayer for our nation because we do have a lot of division um [49:46] here in our country. But this was a great opportunity to unite our country [49:53] together and in the spirit of unity and nonpartisanship or bipartisanship [50:00] to unite us together. I would like to ask and I appreciate that you listen to [50:05] Carl's recommendation that moving forward if this celebration with all of [50:10] the EMS and the fire continues to be on the 1st, the 2nd, the 3rd, the fourth, [50:16] the fifth, the 6th, the seventh, the eth of July that you will specifically say [50:22] Independence Day fireworks celebration, not Fourth of July, but Independence [50:27] Day. And everybody is smart enough to read whatever date you put on the flyer. [50:31] I promise we're all smart enough to do that. Um, but Independence Day and [50:36] actually it was very fitting because I believe that the uh the declaration was [50:43] actually signed on July 2nd. >> Yeah. [50:45] » And it was proclaimed and read officially on the 4th. So, our town [50:50] unknowingly or knowingly ended up commemorating the actual signing of the [50:55] Declaration of Independence. I would ask that we have a drone show every year. I [51:00] thought that was phenomenal. And uh I would ask that we have an excellent I [51:05] don't care. You can raise my You can raise my taxes to pay for other things. [51:10] No, >> but you can raise my taxes to pay for [51:13] that. >> That money, we'll keep that [laughter] [51:16] » you keep that in mind. But I do have one more I do have one more comment. I would [51:20] like I'm hoping Meredith can can at least um bring to light something that [51:26] Mayor Steglick shared a few meetings back. Um folks had come here requesting [51:31] that the township pull money out of Citizens Bank. However, you and Mayor [51:37] Steglick let us know that I want to say almost a year ago or over a year ago, [51:43] you had already done that. not in any relation to the coordinated efforts to [51:49] have the township do that or I'm sorry to by folks coming and asking the [51:53] township to do it. It had already been done and for other reasons. Can you [51:58] elaborate on that? [52:01] » Sure. >> Can you elaborate on that? [52:03] » Sure. We we removed our money from Citizens Bank and went to another bank [52:08] that was paying us a higher interest rate that was more customer servicebased [52:14] um in government banking. >> Wonderful. And I just say that because [52:19] Mayor Steglick went out of his way and anybody can rewatch the minutes to make [52:24] sure that everybody knew that yes, while we had pulled our money from Citizens [52:29] Bank, it was a decision that was made well over a year ago and was not in [52:34] conjunction with it had already been done. So the result is the same and [52:38] people can celebrate the result. But I I appreciate Mayor Steglick's honesty in [52:42] saying, "Hey, this is something that we already did and we didn't necessarily do [52:46] it because of this issue. You might have been un unaware of the issue at the [52:51] time, but it was done." And just so I think it's important to bring that to [52:55] light for the public record. Thank you for your time tonight, council. [53:02] » Thank you. Um, so we are going to close the public [53:07] participation if there is no one else. Um, next we have comments by councel. [53:14] Meridit, >> I just want to take this opportunity to [53:17] thank public works for all of their hard work on the July 2nd event. It was not [53:23] an easy week with the heat for setup and getting the park and Fred and public [53:28] works really work hard to ensure that you know everything is set up to make it [53:33] a successful event. So I just want to take this time to thank public works um [53:38] you know for all their hard work that week in order to for the celebration to [53:43] go off. >> Thank you very much George. [53:48] I would just note that I think today's the anniversary of the lunar landing, [53:51] the first one. >> And um my good buddy Nick, he has [53:55] pictures like because he goes everywhere and meets everybody, but I've never seen [53:59] him have a picture on the moon. So, I'm putting the challenge out there right [54:02] now. Nick, I want to see a Facebook post of Nick on the moon. [54:07] » All right, that's it. >> Thank you. [54:11] » Well, yeah, I was just gonna say that's possible. He could do an AI. Um, [54:14] Councilman Mustakas, >> I don't know how to follow up with that [54:18] one. I I have been very lucky that I have [54:21] been to a lot of great events lately. But uh so I want to begin by saying what [54:28] you said about um not only um Fred but you know police, fire, everybody, how [54:36] hot it was and having a great uh uh team of people that did so much work yourself [54:43] Meredith prepare for this to make it extraordinary. I've heard nothing but [54:48] praises and and amazing uh and amazing reviews. I think Disney World is looking [54:54] to hide it. >> Well, maybe Jerry because Jerry did pick [54:58] every drone item that would soon >> and so [55:02] congratulations to Jerry. Uh you know, no, I am not going to the moon anytime [55:07] soon. I have enough work to to do in this planet. Um but I really want to [55:11] thank everybody who comes out. you really uh put a lot of work and thought [55:16] from, you know, Amy, thank you for coming out and we do take your concerns [55:19] seriously. Uh Trevor, you're at the top of my game, baby. I mean, everything you [55:24] say is is good stuff and it keeps us on our toes to make sure that uh what we're [55:29] doing is on We have a great town and we need to support all our residents. Uh I [55:36] want to thank David for coming out and all the great work that David is doing. [55:39] even though sometimes David coming to some of your events, you know, they come [55:43] kind of come up here and give us a hard time, but we're here for you, support [55:47] you, and you're doing great work. And I want to thank council for all their [55:51] great work and uh and for everybody for coming out. Uh do we have any events [55:55] coming up in the near future? I think >> we have a movie in the park in September [56:01] » and a food truck festival October 18th and [56:05] » it's >> so so we end the first one and we're [56:07] moving right into the next event. So thank you everyone. Have a good night. [56:12] » Thank you so much Councilman um Councilwoman Janju. [56:15] » I want to thank everybody for coming out. Um echo Councilman Makus and [56:19] thanking Meredith, our public works department, our first responders for all [56:24] that they do. I do want to remind everybody that we have restaurant week [56:28] August Burlington County restaurant week August 2nd to the 8th and there's a [56:32] couple of Mount Laurel restaurants on the list COA carini and crust and fire. [56:38] So do go out and support our local businesses. Um I forward to seeing [56:44] everybody at the next upcoming events. Have a great rest of your summer and [56:47] stay cool. >> Thank you so much Councilwoman [56:50] Councilman Green. >> Oh good evening everyone. Um, I don't [56:54] really have a long comment tonight, but I just want to really acknowledge uh [57:00] Meredith because if you ever really take time to understand all that she does uh [57:06] for our town, it's a lot more than I think people really recognize. So, I [57:10] know we we say thank you, Meredith, but I really want to acknowledge you um and [57:14] show honor to you because of all the work uh that you do. Um, and also always [57:19] want to thank uh the residents uh for coming out because without you guys, we [57:23] don't we don't have a Mount Laurel. Um, and and Carl, thank you so much for [57:26] bringing that attention uh about the Independence Day and we definitely will [57:30] make that correction. I was at the event um almost the whole time. Um, and it was [57:36] such a good event. I didn't even mind the heat. Um, um, I saw everything. Um, [57:41] so it was just an awesome event. Um, again, kudos to to Jerry and to again to [57:46] your putting that together. looking forward uh to next year and again thank [57:49] you everyone for coming out. >> Thank you so much. [57:53] » Um so since our last meeting we have two grand openings to uh businesses that [57:59] came to town. So I wanted to say thank you for choosing Mel Laurel. Victoria's [58:03] Little Luke's Grand Spa um is a spa that you can provide services uh for kids not [58:09] for only the adults and and they are offering a package for birthday parties. [58:13] And so it was beautiful and it's beautiful to see residents wanted to [58:16] invest um in their own town economy. And last we have Victoria Secrets grand [58:23] opening um in Centerton. It was also a great um a great business that um is [58:29] actually excited to be in Centerton and they're looking forward to to to do well [58:34] in this town. And next month I just wanted to acknowledge next month is um [58:39] August 26 is women's equality day. The Alice Paul Institute will be hosting [58:44] their annual gender for justice women's equality day. The event will take place [58:50] on Saturday, Saturday, August 22nd from 100 p.m. to 5:00 p.m. So I hope to see [58:56] you there. And with that, um, is there new business? [59:00] » I want to say one more thing. Sunday was National Ice Cream Day and, uh, [59:06] Councilwoman Foia and I separate times, we went to the, uh, [59:09] » go together next. >> We'll go together. I [laughter] think I [59:12] think the owner was a little bit like, "Wait a minute, how many people are [59:14] coming out. Uh we do I did I started these videos about a year a year and a [59:19] half ago and I go to different businesses. Uh the council woman has [59:22] joined. The deputy mayor I think has done a few. So what we're look we went [59:27] to the ice cream store. It's called Shake Shack. It was it was lovely place. [59:30] » Sugar Shack. >> Sugar Shack. Thank you. Shake Shack. [59:32] Sugar Shack. And then I also went to the Woods which is down the street. I think [59:36] it's our only two ice cream locations in Mount Laura I believe. But we wanted to [59:41] showcase them that we do have ice cream. It's in Red Kokus. And please, if you [59:45] get a chance, stop by either one. They're they're fantastic. [59:49] » Thank you so much. And um so can I have a motion to adjourn? [59:55] » I'll second. >> Thank you. The meeting is in favor. All [59:58] » in favor? I I >> Thank you. [1:00:01] » Thank you. Good night, everyone.