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[9:48] 6 o'clock hour is upon us uh so I'd like
to bring the board meeting uh December
[9:53] 9th 2024 to order uh 6 pm. and we need a
roll call Anastasio here Caris here
[10:02] venturini here baa here wasburn here
daxy here de gr he's
[10:09] here uh next item is pledge
[10:16] allegiance iedge to the of United
[10:25] States indivis
[10:35] okay the next item up is a presentation
and this is in recognition of Joe ferus
[10:41] Village clerk on obtaining the
designation of Wisconsin certified
[10:46] municipal
[10:50] [Applause]
clerk um we just wanted to take a moment
[10:58] to conr congratulate Jill on earning the
designation of Wisconsin certified
[11:02] municipal clerk Jill has completed over
100 hours of specialized training in
[11:08] addition to her other education and
experience to earn this recognition well
[11:13] done Jill thank
[Applause]
[11:25] you Jill if you'd like to just say a few
words on your own behalf of the AR ous
[11:29] process that you had to go through to do
all
[11:32] that sure so yes it does take a little
bit of time um you have to uh clear a
[11:40] certain number of credits of classwork
and you also have to clear a certain
[11:43] number of credits for experience um the
experience points come from attending
[11:48] trainings um volunteering and sitting on
committees and things of that nature so
[11:53] it doesn't happen overnight it takes a
couple at least a couple of years um so
[11:57] it's been a work in progress for me so
so I'm very happy to have finally
[12:01] obtained this so thank you very much
[12:09] done okay so let's uh move on to public
comment uh members of the public are
[12:15] welcome to provide comments on any
matter please fill out a comment form
[12:19] and the president will recognize you uh
use the microphone and state your name
[12:23] and address for the public record uh
comments are limited to three minutes
[12:28] and I just want to distinguish that um
we're also having a couple of public
[12:33] hearings uh that'll have its own comment
period so um if you're uh if you're
[12:40] signed up for you know uh agenda item
one two or three or however we have that
[12:45] agenda um we'll recognize you at that
point in the meeting uh but this is just
[12:50] for anything that's you know really not
on the agenda um and we do have uh uh Mr
[12:57] Jerry Frankie if if I could recognize
[13:07] him good evening Jerry Frankie 6342
birkshire Lan Mount Pleasant I just have
[13:13] three questions first of all I got my
annual Christmas card from the village
[13:17] today thank you very much um what I
don't quite understand is why The
[13:22] Village's portion went up 6.7% which is
more than twice anybody any other taxing
[13:28] body uh I had to do a lot of fishing to
find out things about the budget and you
[13:34] point out in something that the rate
went down well those of us that are
[13:38] familiar with municipal government
understand the rate doesn't mean a whole
[13:41] lot especially given how fast our
assessed values are growing in Mount
[13:45] Pleasant so I guess I'd like to know how
much the levy went up not the rate uh
[13:51] and then secondly what's driving that
increase in the levy uh it's a pretty
[13:55] big jump you know compared to the county
and the the school board and others so
[14:01] that's my first question if you can't uh
answer tonight I would appreciate some
[14:06] response from from someone um secondly
uh a few years ago we were talking about
[14:12] a convention or Conference Center is
that still being
[14:17] contemplated can't answer are you
referring to the one that was across the
[14:22] street it well it was shelf uh when co
uh came around and uh it it hasn't been
[14:27] taken off the books I so so it's there
okay um but no action has been taken
[14:33] Beyond some initial engineering study so
these first two questions actually lead
[14:37] to my final question which is now that
we have one of the best communicators
[14:41] that I got to work with when I was in
the commercial real estate business I
[14:44] certainly hope that the Village of Mount
Pleasant is going to emulate take a look
[14:48] at what the village of Pleasant Prairie
does for their I don't know if it's
[14:51] bimonthly or quarterly newsletter it's
unbelievable but when I get a tax bill
[14:57] that has a 6.7% increase increase in The
Villages part I would expect at least
[15:02] some attempt to explain it away tell me
what the the driving force was in that
[15:07] so I would suggest in the future you
know you can keep your dog license and
[15:10] your cat license information stuff like
that but I would like to know what's
[15:14] driving the budget up thank you for your
service I appreciate it Point well taken
[15:19] Jerry um and we'll just add that on to
Sean's to-do list uh I know that uh it's
[15:25] already there it's already on that list
already there yeah it's already on that
[15:32] list um anybody else uh public comment
uh you know for anything other than uh
[15:37] the uh items that are on the
agenda you want to go now
[15:49] fine hints 7548 South Sanctuary Franklin
I am here to uh just give comment on
[15:59] um
docket I'm sorry item F docket 10 it's
[16:04] the uh CSM proposed by Ashley capital I
represent hence real estate development
[16:10] company the landowner for the parcel um
in the CSM request and we are just here
[16:16] to reiterate our request that the CSM be
approved without the condition one
[16:24] applicant shall update map to reserve 80
ft of roadway centered on the east line
[16:28] of the Northwest quarter section 6 um I
made the the case before planed
[16:34] commission that um we don't feel that
now is the necessary time to add the
[16:38] reservation line we're making no um
objection to the concept per se we are
[16:45] just um stating that we're not proposing
a development at this time and if at the
[16:50] time that we do propose a development on
this parcel we will need to go see staff
[16:54] we will need to go see plan commission
and we feel that that would be the
[16:57] appropriate time to impose a reservation
not at at this time where we're the
[17:04] applicant Ashley capital is simply
proposing a
[17:09] CSM thank you thanks
[17:36] okay yeah so the rest of you will call
um when we get to those uh uh points you
[17:43] need uh anybody else wishing to speak uh
on the record for
[17:48] anything no okay then we'll close public
comment and we'll move on to the consent
[17:54] agenda and based what we've been hearing
uh I'd like to take item 10 off of the
[17:59] consent agenda and we'll take that up
separately um but uh if uh the maker of
[18:07] the motion would like to motion consent
agenda items through
[18:12] nine Mr President I make a motion to
approve the items 1 to n on the consent
[18:17] agenda as
presented second so I hear a motion in a
[18:22] second all in favor signify by saying I
I I I opposed so that motion carries uh
[18:29] so let's move on to item number 10 uh
which is approval of the
[18:34] 3047 uh State Highway 41 certified
survey map uh CSM
[18:50] 24-6 so there seems to be U um some
heartburn by the uh by the land owner uh
[18:58] on uh making a reservation on the land
uh uh in order to facilitate another
[19:05] deal on an adjacent piece of land and
they're just uh you know they're
[19:10] wondering why they have to
encumber uh an adjoining property in
[19:14] order to make this other deal with
Ashley work um as far as I know from
[19:19] Ashley Capital uh it's no skin off their
nose either way whether that reservation
[19:25] is is in or not um but the argument that
I'm hearing is is uh uh the landowner uh
[19:33] doesn't mind if the if and when when
they do that adjacent parcel and when
[19:39] that when they get involved with a deal
on that to put the reservation in at
[19:44] that point um Sam do you have any other
thoughts on this uh because I know that
[19:48] this was vetted out at the uh at plan
commission yeah so the staff originally
[19:54] put that comment in because when we
receive a certified survey map we have
[19:57] to evaluate it against all the
ordinances this application did not meet
[20:01] the block length requirement essentially
when someone comes in with a CSM to
[20:05] create Lots um whether they're for
public Street dedication or otherwise um
[20:10] we reviewed against those subdivision
regulations and the total parcel had
[20:14] block LS longer than 1,00 feet the plan
commission upon deliberation said uh
[20:19] agreed to remove East West reservation
uh of roads and push that to a later
[20:25] date um but to paraphrase their their
conversation thought the north south
[20:29] reservation was important enough that it
should bind the map and the future
[20:33] property owner mainly because uh that
would be the full North extension of
[20:38] Carrington Boulevard as it moves uh
north to south Beyond its current or
[20:43] south to North Beyond its current
Terminus towards the village of calonia
[20:47] Municipal line um and they felt that was
an important enough collector street
[20:51] that they wanted to see it on the map
now um as opposed to deferring it later
[20:57] on so just due to the importance of the
roadway and that connection they felt it
[21:01] was important so they recommended
removing all the conditions except one
[21:06] the cleanup um which we didn't mention
tonight but and then to the um uh the
[21:12] future reservation of just Carrington
bulevard North
[21:18] South any thoughts from the
Commissioners so I Mr President I have I
[21:24] have a question for the
developer so then let's get the
[21:29] developer miked
up Alex do you want to you want to head
[21:34] back up to the
[21:40] podium and to be clear I'm the land
owner although the developer is present
[21:45] as well right right right and I am on
the plan commission so I remember
[21:49] meeting with you and and hearing your
situation and I was one of the ones that
[21:54] was relatively adamant about keeping the
north south Road reservation in there
[21:58] there so what I'm hearing from you
tonight that I don't remember hearing at
[22:02] plan
commission so your project is on the
[22:07] hint property and I understand the
purpose of the CSM is really to create
[22:11] the roadway running East and West at the
North
[22:15] side so the developer owns the abing
property as well is that what I'm
[22:20] understanding or what what is the abing
property have to do with this the
[22:23] developer is under contract to purchase
the abing property located in calonia
[22:29] and um quite frankly property to theth
yeah the property to the North in
[22:35] calonia so as part of that agreement we
are agreeing to facilitate the two acres
[22:41] required in Mount Pleasant and it it's
causing some not not that this is
[22:45] necessarily The Village's problem but
it's causing some heartburn between
[22:49] seller and buyer as we are contractually
obligated to to provide that two acres
[22:54] or so in Mount Pleasant however there's
nothing that says we have to cumber our
[22:59] property to do so so it kind of creates
a um point of conflict for us if you
[23:04] will between you and the property owner
in
[23:08] calonia I guess I'm confused why would
we are the property owner in calonia as
[23:13] well they own both they own both Parcels
right I I understand that so I don't
[23:19] understand what the conflict would be I
I guess and I I don't need to argue with
[23:24] you about it certainly Mr hin I
appreciate your being here tonight to
[23:28] discuss it that in my mind a road
reservation is a reservation it is not a
[23:33] platted roadway and it can be removed
and if there is an offer to purchase to
[23:39] the property to the east of this which
is what I'm hearing you're talking about
[23:43] the property to the north the road
reservation is on the north south west
[23:48] east side of the property right Sam no
it runs through the middle of the
[23:53] property it runs through the middle of
the Mount Pleasant property correct
[23:57] subject to the CSM we also own the
property to the north of it just across
[24:01] the municipal bound boundary and that's
the property that Ashley capital is
[24:05] under contract to purchase as part of
that deal they're planning to put a
[24:10] roadway running East West and in order
to facilitate that we agreed to donate
[24:15] two or so Acres of our Mount Pleasant
Holdings which is just in sillery you
[24:21] know we just happen to be the owner of
that property which I think is you know
[24:24] part part of of our I guess argument if
you will we just happen to own the
[24:29] property in Mount Pleasant um it could
it could be a third party to which
[24:33] Ashley would have to go out and try to
find a way to to to purchase and secure
[24:38] the rights to do that and I I don't
think that third party would like a road
[24:42] reservation probably also does that
clear up the context kind kind of but I
[24:50] I want to make sure I understand what I
my thought I I may be misinformed so
[24:56] that's important in other words I
thought that the road reservation we
[25:00] wanted to leave on was a north south
reservation that ran on the edge of the
[25:06] property North and South it's through
the middle yeah it's about 2third of the
[25:12] way um through the property from west to
east um it aligns directly with this
[25:18] quarter section uh line um because the
property is 120 Acres so it's it's
[25:24] pretty big it actually encompasses you
know multiple subsections so that's why
[25:30] it cuts through the middle of the
property is because the property is so
[25:32] large
[25:36] Consolidated so you're not worried about
the extension of Carrington in the
[25:42] future being delineated somehow on this
it sounds like you're willing to that
[25:47] that's not a concern for you no it is
that's why we put the comment on there
[25:51] for the road reservation is we we as
staff thought a for Block length and B
[25:56] for that Village collector Street to
ultimately go through and go into the
[26:00] the village of calonia that's why we
included as staff and that to my
[26:04] recollection was the same conversation
at the plan
[26:10] commission I mean I I think Carrington
Boulevard is a very important roadway
[26:15] and I think it it where it ends up is
all subject to how this all Lays out
[26:20] really it can move it can move East or
West if I mean how is it going to run up
[26:26] through the wetlands and everything then
uh it wouldn't generally this location
[26:31] doesn't impact Wetlands entirely if it
did you know there specific rules and
[26:37] how you know we can impact Wetlands with
public streets and things like that
[26:41] through wdnr but um yeah in general it
doesn't really impact those things
[26:48] that's why the village staff recommended
as a reservation as opposed to a formal
[26:51] dedication was we acknowledge that it
might move couple feet East West upon
[26:56] final engineering and connect in it in
so that's why we put it in as just a
[27:00] reservation and not a a
[27:07] dedication yeah I I I I prefer to
support staff in that regard and
[27:17] um I you know I recogniz I I don't know
that a north south connection Street
[27:23] should be problematic in your
relationship with your uh partners and
[27:29] and so forth because that's a planning
exercise we have to have that
[27:33] connectivity and I think that's always
something right now to get North into
[27:38] calonia there's only two streets H and V
so Carrington Boulevard is an important
[27:45] Street and in my mind a reservation is
just that it's a reservation and it's
[27:52] something that can
be U worked with in terms of its exact
[27:57] location
based on site
[28:01] planning so it remains somewhat flexible
you're not specifically planting it on
[28:06] here anywhere we recommend it's just um
80 feet centered on the east line of the
[28:13] the section line um so yeah we do
recommend a specific location for it to
[28:19] appear on the map just so the surveyor
has a specific place to draw it but a
[28:23] reservation yeah again is not a
dedication so once that was was formally
[28:28] dedicated in the future once the road is
engineered and the property is developed
[28:34] um that dedication would replace that
reservation at that time and it could
[28:38] shift one way or another so to your
point trusty wasburn it really is a
[28:42] planning exercise um it's something to
get it on title on a map for the long
[28:47] run and that's why we recommended it
well without knowing you know exactly
[28:52] where the road is going to come through
um is it is it going to end up Dead
[28:57] ending on the new East West Road or does
calonia have plans to extend that uh
[29:03] Beyond to the north that I cannot answer
um I I can Mr President
[29:09] caledonia's site plans with Ashley
Capital show that continuing further
[29:14] north that's why we chose that location
as we would mirror it and if again when
[29:19] calonia does build out those roadways in
the east west roadways if that does
[29:23] shift a little bit when Ashley builds
out that site again we can you know
[29:28] modify the reservation or you know take
it over with a dedication at that time
[29:33] so I don't think one foot one way or
another should really impact it this is
[29:37] exactly halfway between V and the
frontage road so from a location
[29:41] standpoint the spacing is pretty perfect
from a planning and circulation
[29:47] perspective and and just to to be clear
again for public record we our argument
[29:53] is not about kington Boulevard or the
fact that it it's very clearly
[29:58] documented at this point that it's
something malp pleasant is going to
[30:02] require at a time when either us or
Ashley or a different third party
[30:06] developer comes forward with a
development proposal we are just
[30:11] reiterating that we're not making a
development proposal at this time so we
[30:15] don't wish to encumber the land now
we're not making any comment on I mean
[30:19] staff is is very adamant that that road
reservation will be there at one point
[30:24] and the land is currently egg it will
need to go through staff and plan
[30:28] commission and we feel that that is the
time for the reservation that's our
[30:34] position Mr President uh again as truste
Washburn has uh uh recaptured the
[30:42] discussion of the Planning Commission I
I was also at the Planning Commission
[30:45] and
uh yes we we voted to to only uh have
[30:52] the reservation on the east west but
after hearing the owner comments
[30:58] yeah since it's not a a development
proposal I personally don't see any
[31:05] problem because when that proposal come
then it can be addressed at that time
[31:10] but by having that in the condition we
are you Ty their hands well I think it's
[31:17] an encumbrance that they don't need and
when that next development comes the
[31:22] plan commission and staff will always
get another kick at the cat
[31:28] so uh you know I don't think it needs to
be there
[31:33] either
[31:36] okay my understanding and my my
recollection of the discussion of the
[31:41] Planning Commission I don't have that is
that uh that I tend to agree that it can
[31:47] be handled at that time when the
development proposal when the
[31:49] development proposal come you should not
be binding at this point in time at the
[31:55] plan commission what we did relieve them
of was the East West connectivity this
[32:00] is the north south connectivity which is
what we did state in our approval at
[32:05] plan commission should be left in which
is what he's asking to take out now yes
[32:11] and and I I am going to support staff
because when they do come back with a
[32:17] site
plan um having those connection points
[32:22] the road can change when it gets
dedicated simply through that process so
[32:28] when they come back with a site plan
um I'm confident that the the the road
[32:34] reservation doesn't stop them from
planning around it when they are
[32:39] actually doing their site plan the road
reservation just tells them that they
[32:44] must connect on the east on the North
side and the south side and if the
[32:48] reservation is straight right now but
their Road plan Wiggles around when they
[32:53] dedicate that road as long as they have
that north south connectivity that'll
[32:57] believe that reservation so I think it's
an
[33:01] important it's an important reservation
to have in on record for the
[33:07] future I guess and and I you know I
don't know that we need to Bel labor
[33:12] this anymore we have to you know there
will be a vote on it and and we can vote
[33:16] on it but I believe as a future planning
tool I I agree with Sam that it it
[33:23] should be addressed on the property so
that it's of record
[33:28] again so Ron would you like to make a
motion um uh regarding uh the CSM but
[33:35] taking out that first item
yes uh I like to make a motion to uh
[33:43] approve this uh 3047
us41 CSM D
[33:50] 24-6 removing that item that condition
number one you know to remove that Pres
[33:58] from to South condition one and and and
and again my my argument is I tend to
[34:03] agree with the owner that that can be
handled at that time when the
[34:08] development plan comes yes thank you so
there's a motions there a
[34:13] second second so I hear a motion and
second any further discussion uh
[34:19] regarding U uh CSM
24-6 Mr President yeah I'd like to ask
[34:26] the developer I'm still not clear as to
why this is an encumbrance to your deals
[34:31] that you've got sure uh owner but sry
sorry um maybe I shouldn't have brought
[34:38] that up I guess what I was just trying
to say is as we have an agreement on our
[34:43] calonia piece to sell to the developer
the development that they are proposing
[34:47] includes an East West Road along the
municipal border so we knew that was
[34:52] going to be the case and in our contract
agreement for the calonia piece we
[34:56] agreed to donate to pieces of our
separate property that just happens to
[35:00] be located in Mount Pleasant in order to
get that two P two acres separate from
[35:04] the 120 that it currently is today we
need a CSM the contract says that we
[35:09] need to provide them with two acres it
doesn't say that we need to encumber
[35:13] ourselves in any way to do that so it it
just puts us in a position of having to
[35:19] potentially accept a reservation only as
a condition to fulfill an obligation to
[35:23] give them two acres we didn't agree to
any sort of incumbrances in our contract
[35:28] so maybe that was too much context that
I didn't need to include but I hope that
[35:32] kind of explains it the why are you
donating the the two acres uh part of
[35:39] the contract with just of the
negotiations yes correct the new East
[35:43] West Road is right on the on on the
municipal boundary okay so half of it
[35:48] presumably is coming from uh the land
that they own in calonia and the other
[35:53] half is coming from the Mount Pleasant
land and they're donating that for the
[35:57] the purpose of the road okay
[36:02] correct Mr chairman yeah so I think as a
followup Denise I think that's a really
[36:08] I'm glad you ask him for that
clarification because it is a little
[36:12] confusing um because as as he said this
is really all to put his calonia deal
[36:19] together and I think the reason that I
still in spite of that that
[36:25] explanation if you're coming to Mount
Pleasant to divide property in Mount
[36:29] Pleasant for whatever purpose it is
whether you're going to build a house or
[36:32] put up a garage or do build a
subdivision we have codes and ordinances
[36:37] that we that we ask our planners to
heavily scrutinize to follow and to make
[36:42] recommendations back to us so
unfortunately I don't agree that your
[36:47] property is being encumbered because
we've made it clear that North South
[36:51] Streets going to go somewhere very close
to the proximity that's just forward
[36:56] information for you M and and your
family um I know you've had a rough road
[37:02] to hoe with this but I don't feel we're
encumbering you and I don't think that
[37:07] the developer that wants to buy the
north property that's really not
[37:10] relevant to his situation as far as I
can see it's and and so um I'm still
[37:17] going to support keeping the reservation
in the CSM because they've come to us to
[37:23] divide a parcel in Mount Pleasant I
understand it's to create an West Road
[37:28] way and this is a very very big deal in
calonia I appreciate that it's going to
[37:33] be a wonderful development but we have
to protect our community that's why
[37:37] we're here so I'm going to stay in favor
of keeping the road
[37:44] reservation okay interesting
conversation any other
[37:49] thoughts okay um so since we seem to
have a divided board on this we'll uh uh
[37:56] roll call this
um could I have her repeat the motion
[38:02] sure the motion was to approve 3047 US
Highway 41 CSM 24-6 removing condition
[38:09] number one that's the motion yeah okay
and that condition just to verify is the
[38:16] condition of the road reservation
running north and south north and south
[38:21] yeah everyone understand the motion so
yes vote means approve the the CSM
[38:28] without the road
reservation without the north
[38:32] south the one that we've been
discussing
[38:38] okay Anastasio I Caris nay bini I baa I
wasburn nay daxi nay de gr I motion
[38:54] carries thank you for your consideration
[39:01] so let's move on to
um uh Community Development uh this is
[39:07] uh ordinance uh 22- 2024 which is 8626
Giddings Road zoning map Amendment zma
[39:19] 24-11 Mr
[39:22] Schultz Mr President trustees the
applicant applied to amend a portion of
[39:27] the property from ag2 which is General
agriculture to rl1 which is low density
[39:33] residential this application coordinates
with the settlement at hoods Creek
[39:36] addition five Subdivision plat fsp 244
which you all just approved on the
[39:42] consent agenda the application follows
the land elements of the
[39:45] multi-jurisdictional comp plan for
herine County neither the master bicycle
[39:49] plan nor the park and open space plan
contain any recommendations for the
[39:52] subject area the plan commission
recommended uh the approval of this
[39:59] project with the one condition in the
end notes which is the revision shall
[40:02] only occur after the property owner
records the settlement at hoods Creek
[40:06] Edition 5 Subdivision plat at the rine
County Register of Deeds with that the
[40:11] plan commission recommends that the
village board moves to approve ordinance
[40:14] 22 2024
[40:28] so um did the uh was the petitioner uh
wanting to say anything
[40:38] or no from the petitioner okay so okay
this is this is where we get to open up
[40:44] the uh uh the public hearing part of it
um so uh not only for this one but for
[40:51] the other couple of public hearings I
will be having uh if you wish to speak
[40:56] uh fill out public hearing form which is
on a table near the entrance once
[41:00] recognized people uh speakers should
come to the podium and identify
[41:04] themselves with their name and address
please speak clearly into the
[41:07] microphone speakers must direct all
discussions towards the board I will not
[41:13] allow interchange between members of the
audience and the petitioner we re we
[41:18] excuse me we request that you not
interfere with nor interject comments
[41:23] while another person has the floor this
is to ensure a respectful and Order
[41:27] process please keep all comments on the
particular item before the board and at
[41:32] the most 5 minutes and uh finally to
ensure a focused and productive hearing
[41:38] please turn off or mute all electronic
[41:44] devices uh so I don't have anybody
signed up for this uh item number
[41:51] one do we okay
[42:03] are you
uh 8512 gettings Road
[42:09] y yeah if you'd like to just come up and
uh introduce yourself and your address
[42:14] for the
[42:17] record good evening my name is Kelvin
Weatherspoon reside at 8512 Giddings
[42:24] Road um I'm sorry for being so late in
this in the progress U of this program
[42:29] here but I received a notification that
came late uh someone did tell me that
[42:34] they were developing as I did see the
surrounding uh properties that I mean
[42:39] the properties that surround my small
part of land and um I was concerned
[42:43] about that my concern is um and I
respect what the board does and I
[42:48] respect what the developers have done um
I've been living there for about 30
[42:53] years and it has really progressed
around me um
[42:58] my concern was in developing the land
there um how the water will the storm
[43:04] water will be released um not so much in
the front of these properties that are
[43:08] but mine but in the rear because I have
Wetland right there and I hate for you
[43:13] know all that water to build up and
cause a lake I mean I just I guess I
[43:18] just wanted to know what is the plan for
that how will they you know develop that
[43:23] where it it's you know pretty conducive
for all of us well Kelvin that's a a
[43:29] question that we get a lot when it comes
to uh taking raw land and turning it
[43:33] into a development and I think that Sam
can probably address those issues uh you
[43:39] know briefly in terms of uh this step is
just you know one of the very first
[43:44] pieces of it there's a whole raft of
things that come into play afterwards
[43:49] but Sam is better spoken at that than I
am yeah that's correct so the the
[43:53] Subdivision plat uh does maintain the
majority of the wetlands that are close
[43:58] to gettings road so closer to your
property in the front there most of
[44:03] those Wetlands will stay undeveloped um
so that will provide some buffer then
[44:08] the developer is also required to add
storm water ponds for both water quality
[44:13] and water detention so they're not
pushing additional water onto
[44:17] neighboring properties so they're
preserving some land and adding
[44:21] additional storm water ponds so will we
have a chance to see the the final plans
[44:26] before things begin to roll um because
as of as I understand now it seems like
[44:31] it's already being developed I mean I
see the trucks out there I see the silk
[44:35] border and everything so I really don't
know where everything stands as it is
[44:41] today yeah you can find the plans online
as part of this packet or reach out to
[44:47] me directly and I can give you my
contact information okay that'd be great
[44:50] thank you thank you uh anybody else
wishing to speak on on this first item
[44:56] um gettings
Rob not hearing from anybody uh we can
[45:01] close the public uh uh comment part of
that and we can uh move on to a
[45:07] motion Mr President I make a motion to
approve ordinance
[45:12] 2020 22-22 24 for 8626 gting Road zoning
map Amendment z-2
[45:20] 24-11 subject to the recommended
conditions second so I hear a motion in
[45:26] a second any discussion from the
[45:30] board again we discussed the Planning
Commission and uh this is for a uh
[45:38] resoning only from the ag2 to
rl1 and like Sam said you know then the
[45:45] developers appli you know for the
subdivision will address all those
[45:50] concern by the residents but other than
that this item on the agenda is to form
[45:57] the
resoning and and we have to have that
[46:00] for the developer to proceed with the uh
building there I think it's a phase what
[46:05] five of the development I think same
yeah so this is all the same development
[46:12] that was getting jammed up by the water
connection yep Mr badkey solved a huge
[46:18] problem for himself so and and it was
ultimately The Village as a whole will
[46:23] benefit because that was an expensive
water M to get to that Serv that part of
[46:27] the village so yeah took a long time and
a lot of phone calls and a lot of
[46:32] working with people in the neighborhood
so I would think sir that I don't know
[46:36] if the gentleman did he leave he left oh
that he'll work well Jeff will work well
[46:41] with the neighbor that just came up and
was concerned about storm water more
[46:45] than happy to talk about it but yep
that's the one it's nice to see some
[46:48] closure on these
things
[46:52] else I live on Giddings just a few doors
down from Kelvin and from what I've seen
[46:59] so far at hoods Creek now a lot of it's
been there since we before we moved in
[47:02] but the development is very nice so I
think seeing that come round out and
[47:08] come to an end on the other end of
gettings or further down will be nice as
[47:13] well just to see that
finished ultimately there will be some
[47:17] nice connectivity that'll take some of
the heat off the one entrance that they
[47:21] have and so forth over time this is this
phase won't complete that connection but
[47:26] getting close Mr President if I may add
I live in that hoods Creek in the
[47:33] probably in the phase one and the
Planning Commission many of our
[47:38] neighbors came and they are aware of
that so like trusty doxy said it's a
[47:43] continuation of the nice development and
uh it would be probably to the same
[47:50] architect and same standard that we have
from phase one to phase 1 to four so
[47:56] it'll be nice EXT exension except that
is coming out from the other side of the
[48:00] gettings road other than that it'll be
the same development and uh our
[48:05] homeowners and the and the neighbors who
came here or who are watching out there
[48:09] I talked a couple of them and I hav't
heard any concern it shouldn't be
[48:14] yeah okay uh so in the matter of uh zma
24-11 um ordinance
[48:23] 22224 uh roll call Anastasio I Caris I
venturini I baa i wasburn i daxy i d gr
[48:35] I motion carries so let's move on to the
second item here ordinance
[48:41] 23-20 24 which is uh County V zoning map
amendments zma
[48:52] 24-10 uh back to Mr Schultz the applied
with permission from the owner to amend
[48:58] the zoning map for the property from ag2
which is General agriculture to rh1 high
[49:03] density residential to accomodate a
multi-unit Building Development the
[49:08] application follows the residential
recommendation of the land use elements
[49:11] of the comp plan Village does not have
an adopted plan for local planning Area
[49:15] 1 the park and open space plan
identifies proposed site 11 which is a
[49:20] neighborhood park to the southwest of
this property the proposed acquisition
[49:24] is 10 acres and the proposed facility
development includes two basketball
[49:28] goals which is a full court a Sandlot
softball Diamond a playground a
[49:32] Playfield and general development the
applicant proposed dedicating the
[49:36] southern portion of this parcel for a
portion of that Park the master bike
[49:41] plan does not contain any
recommendations for the property however
[49:44] it does recommend a bicycle facility
near uh along Spring Street and the
[49:49] unnamed kind of branch of the hoods
Creek just to the east side of County
[49:54] trunk Highway V
the fiscal impact analysis we based on
[50:01] the proposed development we would do a
detailed one upon receiving a final site
[50:05] plan um but the ratios are all
positive this does not account for any
[50:13] required intersection improvements to
County trunk Highway V and C which are
[50:16] likely uh rine County would determine
the required intersection improvements
[50:20] upon reviewing a traffic impact analysis
which the applicant must submit with a
[50:24] site plan before they could apply for
any bill building permits the property
[50:28] has been on the market with a sign
advertising it for multif family
[50:31] residential development uh since about
2020 the property lies adjacent to tax
[50:36] incremental District number seven which
contains multiple proposed multi-unit
[50:40] building projects The Village staff uh
nor the plan commission recommended any
[50:45] conditions for approval and the plan
commission recommends that the village
[50:48] board moves to approve ordinance 23 2024
[51:00] okay um so from here we can uh get to
the public hearing part of that um so
[51:07] same rules apply U five minutes
max
[51:12] um we got a few people signed up uh on
this
[51:19] one uh Jim Burman
[51:34] hello I'm Jim and my wife Kim Bergman we
reside at 182 County Road
[51:40] V 53177 Mount
Pleasant our property is located east of
[51:46] the resoning
request um little history we purchased
[51:51] property from Gail and Evie IES 5 years
ago to build our retirement home um we l
[51:58] being out in the country surrounded by
Farmland with great privacy beautiful
[52:04] sunsets and close to rine Bible Church
and that's the church I attend we have a
[52:09] couple Representatives tonight from our
church as well over the years we've uh
[52:14] have become close to the IES and totally
understand their decision to sell their
[52:20] Farmland we have not seen any proposed
development plans as of today and we do
[52:27] not know how this development will
impact our property and our privacy
[52:32] concerns for the record we would like to
request a meeting with the
[52:38] developer uh and
discuss that's
[52:44] it okay thank
[52:50] you um can I recognize uh is it Megan
Hoffman
[53:02] hi there I'm Megan Hoffman I'm Jones
neighbor um my husband Alex is here as
[53:07] well we reside at 118 County Road V so
we are pretty much directly impacted by
[53:12] this development here too um we just
bought our house in July of this year so
[53:16] we've really loved moving to Mount
Pleasant have had a wonderful time in
[53:19] this community so far and thank you all
for your time and consideration in
[53:23] regarding this development here today um
we did see some plans today and previous
[53:28] to our purging of this property we spoke
with Robin from the village who may be
[53:33] over there I'm not exactly sure um he
was fantastic we had a number of
[53:37] conversations on the phone also via
email because I was a little nervous
[53:41] about the development and it was a big
purchase for us and us coming from south
[53:45] Milwaukee living in a little C little uh
City lot we wanted something bigger and
[53:49] something that we would love for many
many years to come um so was a little
[53:54] disappointed because when I talked with
Robin there was a proposed uh retention
[53:58] Pond behind our home and now I'm seeing
the new plans that have um some parking
[54:01] lots and things like that directly
around our property boundary which
[54:05] obviously affects our ability for
privacy but also any vehicle use
[54:10] headlights coming into our backyards
things like that too um so again we just
[54:15] really love this area all the way from
south of our house all the way North
[54:20] through County Road V it's all single
family homes beautifully maintained
[54:24] large yards trees things like that barns
we're lucky enough to have a beautiful
[54:29] old barn that we hope to restore a
little bit as well um so we understand
[54:34] that development has to happen we are
not against development by any means
[54:38] especially in South Eastern Wisconsin um
I used to hold a real estate license so
[54:43] I kind of know how all of this goes um
and I do know that it's important to
[54:47] make sure that there is housing
available for our community I do want to
[54:52] make sure that we speak our peace and
just say that we would love to see any
[54:56] kind of development behind us however a
high density development with a parking
[55:00] lots kind of directly in our backyard is
not necessarily our first um thing that
[55:06] we were hoping to see today so I just
hope that as we're going through this I
[55:10] would I love Jim's option here of maybe
talking with a developer and seeing what
[55:14] the plans actually are we just saw the
plans here today too um I love the idea
[55:18] of having some basketball hoops courts
things like that we love having the
[55:22] church in our backyard um so we're again
just not against people people are not
[55:26] against development anything of that
nature but what we're just really
[55:30] concerned about is preserving our
neighborhood's culture having that rural
[55:35] uh feel to it it just seems a little bit
out of place to have a high density
[55:39] residential area right there um when
it's not on a a really Main Road and our
[55:44] other concern also was also brought up
is the traffic impact on Spring but also
[55:49] on County Road v um and also obviously
you know if those two roads were to be
[55:53] expanded that would directly impact us
but also the cost that would come along
[55:57] with that and if that really makes sense
for this area of the county so um I just
[56:02] hope that as we move through this
process that um all of you again I
[56:06] respect you all so much thank you for
letting us come here tonight it's my
[56:08] first time participating in something
like this so I appreciate you guys
[56:12] offering us to come here today um and
speak um our minds on the on the matter
[56:17] um and just ask that you consider it as
if it was your backyard your neighbor
[56:21] backyards how your community would feel
about this uh development the high
[56:25] density velopment being on this road in
this intersection and if it makes the
[56:30] most sense for the county so that's all
I have thank
[56:35] you thank
you um can I hear from Greg uh Lang
[56:51] long good evening everyone my name is
Greg Long 300 County Road V and mount
[56:56] Pleasant um I have property where the
west side of my property is directly
[57:01] against the farm field that um is
looking to be resed and my concerns are
[57:06] also with the high density um it seems
out of place um I'm concerned about uh
[57:12] many factors that would happen if
something would go in um had first have
[57:16] you guys considered um you know single
family housing which seems would fit
[57:20] better in um in addition I'm worried
about you know light pollution if
[57:24] there's going to be a parking lot with
high density might going to have that
[57:27] there's going to be a lot more traffic
there's going to be possible a lot more
[57:30] noise
pollution um in
[57:33] addition um have you considered about
having um any types requiring the
[57:39] developer should you choose to go with
high density are they going going to be
[57:43] any type of barrier to stop since you're
going to have so many people so many any
[57:48] everything pets kids people adults
anyone can just start wandering around
[57:53] they can be wandering in my yard um have
you consider considered asking them to
[57:57] add a burm a fence line anything like
that to create separation so that I
[58:02] don't have that problems of things going
in and out of my property people messing
[58:06] with my pets I have nine-year-old
son
[58:11] um so those are my big concerns oh and
my final thing is I haven't seen any
[58:16] development perhaps I haven't seen any
BOS or meeting notices yet I don't
[58:20] followed the board closely but this
notification I got about the rezoning
[58:24] was the first thing I noticed so um some
of the plans sound nice but they also
[58:30] have a giant multif family thing and I'm
hoping the board isn't just taking the
[58:35] first opportunity they get with high
density um I completely understand the
[58:39] development the whole point of the the
water was to bring development along the
[58:44] I94 Corridor so I've always known
development is going to happen I'm not
[58:47] going to discourage it it's just my
biggest concern is you're taking the
[58:51] first opportunity to develop it instead
of planning for other factors especially
[58:57] the people who are going to be directly
in affected by this thank
[59:01] you uh thank you um Sam we're hearing
some of the same kind of themes uh you
[59:06] know people are are concerned are we are
are we being thoughtful here uh what
[59:11] protections are there for the adjoining
neighbors uh yeah can you say a few
[59:15] words on that so from a site planning
perspective um this does not we're not
[59:21] at the site plan portion yet so I think
there is opportunity for the neighbors
[59:24] to talk to the Developers speak your
piece you know and you know I'll let the
[59:29] potential developer and and the
neighbors kind of work out their
[59:32] individual concerns but from a a broad
standpoint The Village's zoning
[59:36] ordinances require full caught off
lights um so from a light pollution
[59:41] standpoint they can't you know go into
the neighbor's yard there there's
[59:44] limitations at the lot lines in the
individual individual
[59:48] fixtures um both color temperature and
location from a landscaping and
[59:53] screening standpoint particularly in
relation to parking areas there are
[59:57] requirements when you're up against a
residential property there are various
[1:00:01] ways the zoning code allows a developer
to screen those essentially various
[1:00:05] mixture of walls fences and pure uh
Landscaping depending on how much space
[1:00:10] there is between the the parking lot in
the adjacent property so you know we
[1:00:15] address most of the those site planning
concerns through our our normal zoning
[1:00:18] ordinances and we would review any site
plan against those ordinances um from a
[1:00:24] a general development standpoint related
to the the high density uh from The
[1:00:28] Village's staff perspective um and some
of the conversation that happened at the
[1:00:32] plan commission was this is the corner
of two County trunk highways which are
[1:00:37] two collector streets in the village so
regardless of this individual site
[1:00:43] traffic is likely going to increase in
the long run as the village you know
[1:00:47] develops in these areas the Count's made
it known and it shows up on sewer pack
[1:00:52] reports that Spring Street could
eventually be upgraded to a four lane
[1:00:56] road in the in the long run um that's in
the 2050 plan so you know regardless of
[1:01:02] how you vote tonight I think this is a
corner that supports high density due to
[1:01:06] the you know large amount of traffic
that's going out there the adjacent
[1:01:10] multif family developments this area
will start to densify it's very close to
[1:01:15] employers and increasing industrial
commercial and institutional development
[1:01:20] with the hospital there so trying to
locate homes uh near those
[1:01:26] job centers is important for us so due
to all those factors we think this is a
[1:01:32] site that works well for high density I
completely respect and empathize with
[1:01:37] the current land owners out there um but
brutally honest The Village would those
[1:01:44] lots don't need our current subdivision
code nor do I think the county would
[1:01:48] allow those to exist anymore um so they
kind of got their Lots created um under
[1:01:54] older rules uh long time ago the
bergmans were the last ones that were
[1:01:58] created good but uh you know I'm happy
they enjoy their properties but I don't
[1:02:05] see that any other single family lots
would be allowed out there with some
[1:02:10] pretty massive consolidation of parcels
out there uh just the connectivity and
[1:02:15] inner roads and stuff wouldn't work
without probably removing the church and
[1:02:19] reconfiguring a good portion of that
area so I I think it makes sense we're
[1:02:24] more multif family project that is a
little bit more concentrated and
[1:02:27] Consolidated in terms of its site
access thank you um so uh regarding U
[1:02:35] this second item I haven't closed a
public comment on that yet uh is there
[1:02:40] anybody that wanted to speak to that
that hasn't signed up uh if so I I need
[1:02:45] you to speak and and get you signed up
uh not hearing from anybody uh we can
[1:02:51] then close public comment and then we'll
move to the motion
[1:02:56] Mr President I make a motion to approve
ordinance 23-22 24 for zero country
[1:03:02] Highway V zoning map Amendment z-2 24-10
as presented second so I hear a motion
[1:03:09] in a second
um any uh thoughts from the from the
[1:03:15] board Mr President yes I like to ask in
a couple of comments and obviously the
[1:03:20] residents uh will listen to you your
comment but uh
[1:03:26] this was presented in details at the
Planning Commission and tonight is only
[1:03:33] on agenda to reone it so that the
developer can proceed with the with the
[1:03:39] proposed development because right now
is a what ag2 Sam something like that
[1:03:46] yeah so anyway uh what I'm am surprises
that the Planning Commission and what
[1:03:52] the development what the developer had
presented that they had already already
[1:03:56] talked to a couple of
neighbors obviously you you guys were
[1:04:01] not included in the list I'm looking at
the list and I'm kind of surprised about
[1:04:04] that but uh I I wish you know the
developers should have and should speak
[1:04:12] to all the ad joining neighbors but the
but the plan they what they presented to
[1:04:17] us at the Planning Commission is a it's
not a like a low end is high density but
[1:04:22] it's a high high standard or high end
high end so I won't be too concerned
[1:04:28] about you know like having a
uh I don't know I'm being careful of the
[1:04:34] word kind of average condo these are
going to be the highend
[1:04:40] development it's not a single family but
it's going to be not a middle of the
[1:04:45] road or or low end or something like
that I I don't know if that helps you
[1:04:49] but other than that I remember from the
plan and they and they did present to us
[1:04:54] that uh
next to your properties on on the south
[1:04:59] side of the of the County Highway V the
plan will include you know some kind of
[1:05:05] a barriers something that you know from
their journey home so again when they
[1:05:10] come to the Planning Commission and the
village board for the detailed site plan
[1:05:17] that's the time to look at those you
know your privacy or the barriers or
[1:05:22] something like that but right now it's
only for the zoning
[1:05:29] I'm
[1:05:37] sorry
[1:05:40] Sam you can sign up for Village
notifications on the Village website but
[1:05:44] I'll stick around after these couple
items are done on the Community
[1:05:48] Development portion and I can talk to
you out in the hall and give you my
[1:05:51] contact info and
stuff Mr yeah goad
[1:05:56] yeah so um I just wanted to mention that
kind of the common theme that I heard
[1:06:01] tonight excuse me is that everybody
understands that development is going to
[1:06:06] be necessary and obviously this area is
going to be an area that's going to need
[1:06:11] some development um and also from what I
understand as Sam mentioned uh this call
[1:06:16] this the size of this lot and where it's
situated or this property I should say
[1:06:22] um is best for a high density and it's
getting more and more difficult for uh
[1:06:27] developers to come in and do a single
home residential and there's a need for
[1:06:31] this type of development so I keep on
hearing that everybody understands that
[1:06:36] and I know it's it's hard to accept
sometimes when you've bought your dream
[1:06:41] home in a rural area but uh it is close
to the I94 Corridor it is on two um uh
[1:06:48] highways uh and so it's sort of obvious
that it's going to be some development
[1:06:53] of some sort there with that said
I think that our uh staff here and the V
[1:06:59] the the trustees and and the village
board have done a really good job of
[1:07:04] making sure that the development that we
do accept in Mount Pleasant is up to our
[1:07:08] standards and like Rah said uh this
seems like a a development that's going
[1:07:14] to be um you know hopefully acceptable
to what what your expectations are but
[1:07:20] there's a process that process that has
to happen and it's going to come before
[1:07:23] us again and the uh planning commission
so I I want you to have confidence that
[1:07:28] we will look at it and uh and we will
look at it in a way that what if this
[1:07:32] was our backyard we do uh look deep into
these things and we take your thoughts
[1:07:37] and your concerns into
[1:07:40] consideration it's hard to look at
something that's very preliminary and
[1:07:45] not have a hundred questions about what
does this mean for me and my neighbors
[1:07:50] and and and whatnot but you know keep in
mind uh
[1:07:56] the the land owner has property that he
wants to sell a
[1:08:00] developer is interested in it uh
thinking that he can put something in
[1:08:05] place that fits into the community and
he can make a couple of bucks at it and
[1:08:10] um because otherwise things don't get
developed um so having said that
[1:08:19] um he is going to the developer is going
to want to you know see that he could
[1:08:24] get the zone
that he needs in order to build what he
[1:08:29] wants otherwise there's no point of him
buying the land so he makes his offer
[1:08:35] subject to him getting the zoning that
he needs if uh if the zoning is denied
[1:08:42] um then he's not going to build if the
zoning is approved then that gets him
[1:08:47] into
the uh the next steps of which we heard
[1:08:52] at the at the previous public hearing
there's a 100 things that have to get
[1:08:57] gone through and uh
uh drainage plans uh Road plans BMS
[1:09:05] Green Space lighting and some of the
things that that Mr Schultz mentioned um
[1:09:13] but this is the the zoning is the very
first part of it and until that is done
[1:09:19] nothing else can happen uh so uh it's uh
the developer isn't going to go any
[1:09:27] farther unless he knows that he can get
the zoning going to get that he needs in
[1:09:30] order to do what he wants to do so um um
I guess what the board is asking is that
[1:09:38] you you know take a collective deep
breath and uh let us work through the
[1:09:45] process go ahead okay it wasn't long ago
that here we actually said no to a
[1:09:52] developer in changing the zoning a much
lower level for property that was
[1:09:58] adjacent to a lot of single family homes
people had had that property for going
[1:10:02] back 30 40
years we wanted to see that development
[1:10:07] come in with something that was more
would work better with those homes and
[1:10:12] here we're going to go to high density
right next to a group of people who have
[1:10:18] single family homes that bought these
homes to be out in the country and away
[1:10:22] from
everybody and just because because it's
[1:10:25] fewer people that are affected by
throwing in this high density uh these
[1:10:31] apartments here doesn't mean that it
that we should do it we still have to
[1:10:35] think of those people so I don't think
this is a good idea I don't mind the
[1:10:39] development myself heck I just voted for
a development to get finished behind my
[1:10:44] house but that's because they're single
family homes and it it's conducive to
[1:10:50] the neighborhood and I don't think this
neighborhood this is that conducive to
[1:10:55] it so I really don't think this is
something I I development is great but I
[1:10:59] think it should be something that is
more conducive to the neighborhood and
[1:11:02] what's there already they're already
going to do a lower density if I
[1:11:07] remember on the other side of the church
but a large development and so how come
[1:11:11] we can't do something that's more
conducive to this neighborhood in this
[1:11:15] area I mean Megan even mentioned that
she doesn't mind the development just do
[1:11:19] the right development and I think it
starts with choosing the right zoning
[1:11:25] that's all I
got I'm gonna I'm gonna say the same I I
[1:11:30] really looked at it and it's funny
because I looked at the the farm that
[1:11:36] you guys purchased um and thought wow
that's that's a really nice place it's
[1:11:41] going to it's going to have a nice big
open area in the back and um not that it
[1:11:46] still can't and it's still going to be
nice and you know like you agreed but I
[1:11:51] I I have to I have to State the same
that I feel that a high density in that
[1:11:58] small area there when you are looking at
a much larger high density area on the
[1:12:03] other side that there could be something
better fit for that for that area um I
[1:12:09] understand and I've heard that that area
has been hard a hard sale as far as that
[1:12:15] corner unit goes but again I I look at
it and maybe maybe just because we're
[1:12:21] seeing a picture of what they're showing
with all of the the buildings and stuff
[1:12:27] is there a different structure and way
that they could present it that it would
[1:12:33] meet more of a of a a nicer atmosphere
to the back of the houses and and area
[1:12:40] yeah but you know I just I agree I I
really think that there this should be
[1:12:45] Revisited as not a highdensity
area Mr President yeah um Sam what are
[1:12:53] the other options in as far as resoning
so we have we have the high density we
[1:12:58] have the residential and and forgive me
I I don't have any
[1:13:03] notes single family yeah besides single
family this is the next option right
[1:13:09] there's there's a moderate density
option as well um however this site due
[1:13:14] to its current shape um I I and the
likely improvements needed at the
[1:13:21] intersection plus including storm water
on the property I think moderate density
[1:13:26] is a tougher sell um than some of the
properties to the West uh which the
[1:13:31] trustees mentioned are a little bit more
regular in shape and of a bit um more
[1:13:35] open area so it's actually you know
easier to do that moderate density over
[1:13:40] there because there's more space to work
with um here to make a project work uh
[1:13:46] and fit it in I think high density makes
sense um you know it's the corner of two
[1:13:52] County trunk highways so if not here I
guess this Village staff would wonder
[1:13:58] where um in the village you're always
going to have some neighbors there's no
[1:14:04] perfect site more often than not that's
completely neighbor so um we do our best
[1:14:10] through the zoning code to try to take
into consideration things like light
[1:14:15] pollution and noise and all that to to
make it as best as we can um but this
[1:14:20] has been planned for residential
development since I've worked at the
[1:14:23] Village um and
you know there's Business Park directly
[1:14:28] you know less than a thousand feet away
from some of these areas so even if you
[1:14:33] deny this there could be a large
industrial building fewer than a
[1:14:38] thousand feet away from them and they
can probably cease from some of their
[1:14:41] backyards as well that that's planned
that zoning is already locked so you
[1:14:46] know this is part of the tid 7 project
plan this whole area densifying that's
[1:14:51] why we're putting in that sewer and
water uh in v um and and or we put it in
[1:14:56] v and it is now extending West in Seas
to serve this kind of more intense
[1:15:00] residential development so I'm certainly
willing to work with the neighbors um
[1:15:05] and I assume the the developer is as
well but we have a high density district
[1:15:10] for a reason and the village staff
believe this is an appropriate place to
[1:15:13] apply
it you know it's not lost on me that the
[1:15:19] Carrington Avenue Extension will
alleviate some of the back traffic
[1:15:29] I I have no comment to that Mr President
um well we're we're okay with carington
[1:15:35] Avenue out to Spring Street it's when
you get beyond that where the issue was
[1:15:39] okay
um Mr President if I might make a
[1:15:43] comment you know living on County Line
Road as I do and having had
[1:15:51] uh in the corner of County Line Road and
Highway 31 if you drive on Highway 31 at
[1:15:58] any time in your lives that roadway used
to be our farm
[1:16:04] field so when that roadway came in it
cut our farm completely in half and
[1:16:10] really changed the way we were able to
live in a rural
[1:16:14] community I liken this project to the
project that's currently being built the
[1:16:20] even the site plan the way it's laid out
now reminds me of um the seasons at
[1:16:26] Highway uh 31 and Brown
Road same kind of a large complex with a
[1:16:34] a big storm water detention mandate
because of its location and grades and
[1:16:39] it's that particular projects right on
the Pike
[1:16:42] River um and that's a very high dense
highly dense development as is the uh
[1:16:51] the project that bear development is
doing um just south of the seasons and
[1:16:57] you know those projects were put in
those locations and we found those to be
[1:17:02] good locations for those projects for
the very reasons that that Sam is
[1:17:06] mentioning and that is the the
connectivity of the County trunk
[1:17:10] highways that's where you want your
traffic to go the corner of KR and uh 31
[1:17:18] that still is in the Hayfield that's a
20 acre parcel so if that gives you a
[1:17:22] sense of perspective of this being a 20
acre parcel that one is square that one
[1:17:28] is perfectly
Square um this one is obviously oddly
[1:17:33] shaped and and and has some some issues
regarding that number two their their
[1:17:39] accesses to this prop property are going
to be highly restricted by rine County
[1:17:45] or the Department of Transportation the
locations are going to be set in
[1:17:49] stone um number three although I re you
know and again
[1:17:55] I I'm sympathetic to everybody that that
lives out in the county like this that
[1:18:00] that thinks they live out in the
county what I recognize also is that Leo
[1:18:06] living a a very you know a multif family
development is is slated to go just on
[1:18:12] the other side of the
church that's a big multif family
[1:18:16] development that's coming fiduciary is
on the north side of Spring Street we
[1:18:21] haven't seen that project yet but we've
been told by staff and and the community
[1:18:27] that it's out there another large multif
family project very dense the water
[1:18:33] running down Spring Street now west of
Highway V has opened up a corridor for
[1:18:39] development we ran that water for
various purposes but it was run so that
[1:18:44] Leo living would have water and it was
run so that fiduciary would have water
[1:18:49] and Educators would have water so it was
run that way you know for the benefit
[1:18:55] of of the ability for those areas to
develop and
[1:19:00] um and as much as I would love to see a
single family or residential development
[1:19:07] come into some of these areas being a
developer myself I understand the cost
[1:19:12] of it and so the density drives it and
and that is a that is a a fact of life
[1:19:19] of the world we live in today the cost
is just so astronomical I would really
[1:19:24] like like to see this developer meet
with more of the neighbors I think at
[1:19:28] the plan commission we did have some
neighbors in not the neighbors that are
[1:19:33] here today but they did talk to some of
the neighbors and they because they came
[1:19:37] to the plan commission so I I I can't
State who they were I don't have those
[1:19:42] minutes or those notes in front of me
the other thing is that uh the other
[1:19:47] thing that I think is is interesting
about this
[1:19:50] is some of the neighbors are going to
have a park behind them
[1:19:55] you know it it appears from this that we
have two or three properties that are
[1:20:00] immediately budding the area where the
buildings are going to be and the
[1:20:03] parking lots and so forth so some of the
neighbors along Highway V are actually
[1:20:08] going to be afforded privacy permanently
with the dedication of the park space on
[1:20:13] this plat so in in view of of Sam's
comments in view of the degree of
[1:20:19] difficulty in view of the fact that this
is located in a section of our community
[1:20:24] where from a long range planning
standpoint we have put our more dense
[1:20:29] housing in order to keep it together and
kind of a so that it doesn't stay in the
[1:20:35] middle of a a single family development
that Mr that that Andrew uh just alluded
[1:20:40] to the project that was before us
previously um I I would like to see them
[1:20:46] some meet with the neighbors but and and
but I think they've done a good job of
[1:20:51] putting as much of the storm water
making it a feature as opposed to you
[1:20:56] know just putting ponds anywhere um
their further storm water studies may
[1:21:00] show that some of those ponds have to
move you know they might not be in the
[1:21:04] right
location um so I would support the
[1:21:07] zoning knowing that the site plan as we
see it today is not probably the one
[1:21:11] they're going to build and it has a long
way to go in terms of potential meetings
[1:21:17] um public hearings open and and the
ability for you all to stay with the
[1:21:23] development as it moves
along that's all I
[1:21:34] have
okay so uh on the matter before us uh uh
[1:21:40] ordinance uh 23-
2024 uh zma
[1:21:48] 24-10
[1:21:52] um time for vote roll roll
call Anastasio I Caris May vent Trini I
[1:22:04] baa I wasburn I doxy nay de gr
I
[1:22:14] 52 motion
[1:22:22] carries so from here we go on to Res
resolution
[1:22:26] 17-22 which is
11508 Brown Road comprehensive plan
[1:22:33] amendments CPA
[1:22:38] 24-1 that item is going to be um deleted
from the agenda it'll be on the January
[1:22:44] 13th agenda okay so we are pulling U
this third uh item that has the public
[1:22:51] hearing attached to it we'll take that
up in January
[1:22:59] uh item D discussion possible motion
regarding resolution 26- 2024 which is
[1:23:05] amending Parks and Recreation fees
[1:23:27] uh yeah you want to make a motion
R oh I'm sorry I I was in my thought Mr
[1:23:34] President I make a motion to approve
resolution 26- 2024 amending Parks and
[1:23:41] Recreation fee as presented
[1:23:46] second okay this is something that we
just uh took up at the Cow meeting uh
[1:23:51] does anybody need any further uh uh
info or comment on that okay then why
[1:23:59] don't we just do uh um well we'll do a
roll call vote Anastasio I Caris I
[1:24:07] venturini I baa I wasburn I doxy I deg I
motion carries uh item e discussion
[1:24:16] possible motion regarding resolution
27-22 which is amending resolution 36224
[1:24:24] adopting the 2024 budget for Parks fund
to transfer $118,100 for Campus Park
[1:24:31] asphalt paving Mr President I make a
motion to approve budget resolution 27-
[1:24:36] 2024 and Amendment for the
Box Second Amendment for the parks fund
[1:24:42] to transfer $188,100 for Campus Park
asphalt pay payy you second okay that
[1:24:50] sounds like a good
motion um
[1:24:54] again we we just uh took this up at the
committee of the whole um anybody has
[1:24:59] anything further to say or needs any
more information on the uh this is more
[1:25:05] of a settlement than anything uh in
order to get a bill
[1:25:10] PID
right roll call please Anastasio I Caris
[1:25:17] hi benini hi baa hi wasburn hi daxy hi
degr I I motion carries so let's jump
[1:25:27] down to some public work stuff we've got
a few of those to get through here uh
[1:25:32] discussion possible motion regarding
resolution
[1:25:35] 30-22 resolution to accept public
Highway roadways Mr President I'd like
[1:25:41] to make a motion to approve that
resolution number 30-22 4 to accept
[1:25:46] public highways and roadways as
presented second I hear a motion in a
[1:25:52] second I seem to remember speaking about
this too had a recent uh Committee of
[1:25:57] the whole meeting this one was actually
at public works yeah public works okay
[1:26:02] this came to us from Public
Works uh Tony if you uh yeah just want
[1:26:07] to bring us up to date on which roads
are being
[1:26:10] transferred sure so um again this is a
resolution we present typically at the
[1:26:16] end of every construction season we try
to capture all the the roads that were
[1:26:20] built by private developers during the
year and uh all of these were inspected
[1:26:26] by um village representatives to make
sure they meet our specifications so
[1:26:31] they can now be um formally accepted by
the village and we can take over
[1:26:37] ownership they're primarily subdivision
roads uh the pike River Crossing roads
[1:26:41] are in here uh the Sor and creek creek
subdivisions some of these uh settlement
[1:26:46] at hoods Creek editions are in here as
well do do you know I I don't remember
[1:26:55] seeing this list before and we always
done this as
[1:26:59] a it's typically done in December
January once we know what we're going to
[1:27:04] have done for the year and then we'll
accept them at the end of the year and
[1:27:07] then we can once we formally accepted
them we can then use them for all of our
[1:27:11] DOT reporting right and get our
transportation money and so forth did
[1:27:17] you miss did you miss those Mee you know
I I I'm going to go back and look I am
[1:27:23] but what I just want to verify is this
has nothing to do with the substantial
[1:27:27] completion that a typical developer
would go through as they're looking to
[1:27:31] have their improvements accepted by The
Village so that they can move forward
[1:27:36] building permits this is just a do Dre
up of roadways and is the way I see it
[1:27:41] so I don't think that's what Tony just
said no these are all this is final
[1:27:45] accept this has nothing to do with
ongoing development this is final
[1:27:49] acceptance of roads that are complete
and completely meet Village standard and
[1:27:53] have ready to be taken over by
us so that means they have their final
[1:27:59] pavings they their they've been checked
out by the engineering uh and their
[1:28:06] warranty's over right right and their
warrany over no the warranty's not
[1:28:10] necessarily over a lot of these were
finished this year
[1:28:15] okay it's okay I've seen it before
[1:28:20] apparently uh any other thoughts on this
okay okay uh so let's uh let's call roll
[1:28:27] call vote on that resolution
30224 Anastasio I Caris I benini I baa i
[1:28:35] wasburn i daxi i de I motion
carries um Item B discussion possible
[1:28:44] motion regarding ordinance uh 2020 uh
2014-2024 an ordinance creating section
[1:28:52] 78 uh-
one Niner one uh parent F of the
[1:28:59] municipal code of ordinances pertaining
to weight limit exemptions Mr President
[1:29:05] I'd like to make a motion to approve
ordinance
[1:29:09] 24-204 creating section 78-1 191 penf of
the municipal code pertaining to weight
[1:29:16] limit except exemptions as
[1:29:22] presented there a second
second okay so we have a motion in a
[1:29:27] second U my voice was Tony do I go back
to you on this yes thank you Mr
[1:29:32] President quickly several times a year
we'll be contacted by companies that
[1:29:36] want to use Village roads for oversiz
overweight loads as part of their trip
[1:29:41] uh typically these these trips
are heavily isolated on State and County
[1:29:46] Roads so um they're always subject to
those permitting requirements as well
[1:29:51] but once in a while they'll need to use
our roads to to get where they need to
[1:29:55] go so what we think this does is gives
us another layer of protection it gives
[1:29:59] us a way to just kind of document that
they're using their facility it it
[1:30:03] protects us from any damage they might
do to the road and makees and we can
[1:30:07] make sure they have all the uh the other
permits they need in
[1:30:10] place so do they have to post a bond for
that not necessarily
[1:30:19] no any other
thoughts uh so on that matter uh 24-22
[1:30:26] 24 vot call please Anastasio I Caris I
Vini hi baa hi wasburn hi doxy hi degut
[1:30:37] I motion carries uh item C discussion
motion uh regarding ordinance 25-22 24
[1:30:45] an ordinance creating section
70-11 of the municipal code of
[1:30:50] ordinances pertaining to Street use
permits Mr President I'd like to make a
[1:30:55] motion to approve ordinance
25-22 4 creating section 7011 of the
[1:31:02] municipal code of ordinances pertaining
to Street use permits permits as
[1:31:07] presented second motion and second Mr
Byer yes so this is another permit we
[1:31:13] want to create so we can regulate the
temporary use of our um rights away this
[1:31:18] is primarily related to dump dumpsters
storage containers large storage items
[1:31:23] in the right away and this this permit
would give us the ability to not only
[1:31:28] indemnify ourself from liability but
make sure that that the users have the
[1:31:33] pro proper safety practices and traffic
control devices in place and we can make
[1:31:38] sure they're not blocking hydrants or
mail boxes or disrupting sight lines
[1:31:42] that kind of
[1:31:47] thing okay yeah and we discussed this uh
at committee the whole as well
[1:31:54] okay uh we'll take a vote on ordinance
[1:31:58] 25224 Anastasio I Carris I venturini I
baa i wasburn i taxi I de I motion
[1:32:09] carries uh item D um discussion possible
motion regarding ordinance 26-22 24 an
[1:32:16] ordinance amending chapter 78 of the
municipal code of ordinances pertaining
[1:32:20] to parking on certain Village roads
I make Mr President I'd like to make a
[1:32:26] motion to approve ordinance 26- 2024
amending chapter 78 of the municipal
[1:32:33] code of ordinances pertaining to parking
on certain Village roads as
[1:32:39] presented second I hear a motion in a
second Mr Byer yeah so quickly this is
[1:32:46] uh related to Megan's way which is just
Northwest of us that road is flanked by
[1:32:50] the tooi green Phase 2 development which
just got done um with these developments
[1:32:54] we typically see a lot of on on street
parking due to building access issues or
[1:32:59] whatever it may be um this allows us to
have that parking alternat so we can be
[1:33:05] more efficient with our snowplowing and
street sweeping
[1:33:15] activities and we uh we discussed that
at Community whole as well sounds
[1:33:19] reasonable to us R call
vote Anastasio I Caris I Vini I baa I
[1:33:28] wasburn I doxy i d i motion carries item
e uh ordinance 27-22 24 an ordinance
[1:33:38] amending Chapter 70 of the municipal
code of ordinances pertaining to
[1:33:42] maintenance of multiuse
paths Mr President I'd like to make a
[1:33:48] motion to approve ordinance
27 uh- 2024 amending Chapter 70 of the
[1:33:54] municipal code of ordinances pertaining
to M maintenance of multi-use paths
[1:34:00] second Motion in a second Mr Byer yes so
when Mr Schultz and the planning
[1:34:07] department revised the section 90 the
zoning code there was a a provision
[1:34:12] added for um giving the developers an
option to install a multi-use path in L
[1:34:18] of sidewalk so as time has gone on we've
seen a few of these happen and staff
[1:34:24] have been approached by developers
asking you know who who ultimately has
[1:34:28] maintenance responsibility for these
paths so um that obviously spurred
[1:34:33] discussion between um our departments
and what we came up with was to modify
[1:34:39] the two sidewalk maintenance ordinances
to essentially include multi-use path
[1:34:45] language so if a developer develops and
chooses to put in a multi-use path they
[1:34:50] have the same maintenance maintenance
requirements they would have have as if
[1:34:54] it were a sidewalk so that's what we're
attempting to accomplish
[1:34:59] here I think we had some discussion
about this too and one of the things
[1:35:03] that was brought up is that the village
has Exempted itself um from such
[1:35:10] maintenance there is an exemption to one
of the ordinances yes for the most part
[1:35:14] winter plowing and in that sort of thing
on on pasts that aren't being used in
[1:35:18] the winter right
[1:35:26] any other
thoughts no okay uh roll call please
[1:35:32] Anastasio hi Caris hi venturini hi baa
hi wasburn hi daxi hi de I motion
[1:35:42] carries uh item F discussion and
possible motion on awarding the contract
[1:35:47] for Deerfield Drive uh storm water
relay storm sewer uh Mr President
[1:35:53] president I'd like to make a motion to a
approve the award of contract for the
[1:35:57] 2025 Deerfield Drive storm sewer relay
project to the low bidder Bradford
[1:36:03] Contractors LLC in the amount of $
[1:36:08] 56,2 second hear a motion on second uh
Mr buer did you have any the specifics
[1:36:14] on that yes so this is a project to
upssize a storm sewer in Deerfield Road
[1:36:20] and also extend the sewer up Chapel Lane
near that intersection there is a church
[1:36:26] on the west side of Chapel Lane who it's
been there for decades who's runoff
[1:36:31] discharges under Chapel Lane and drains
into several private properties and
[1:36:36] causes localized flooding during during
big events so what we're attempting to
[1:36:40] do is capture that water get it
underground and then upssize the pipe
[1:36:44] accordingly to handle that additional
flow to uh to where this discharges uh
[1:36:49] we did previously bid this um months ago
we received one bid that was over the
[1:36:54] engineers's estimate so we kind of took
a step back and decided let's build this
[1:36:59] in 2025 and give a much larger window to
the contractors to um to make that
[1:37:05] happen and um that that paid dividends
we ended up with seven bids and um some
[1:37:11] very favorable ones as well so recommend
approval well done well the Difference A
[1:37:17] Day Makes huh to go from one to a
handful so
[1:37:23] yeah and you'll make some happy
Neighbors in the process correct need
[1:37:28] the project yes yeah any other
thoughts okay uh so U regarding the the
[1:37:35] contract we could just do a IA on this
one all in favor signify by saying I I I
[1:37:41] opposed okay so that motion carries
unanimously uh so let's jump down to
[1:37:46] Public Safety um now keep in mind this
is the last uh board meeting of the year
[1:37:53] um and so uh we're packing it
in uh discussion possible motion
[1:37:59] regarding intergovernmental contract
with Recine County for Metro drug unit
[1:38:05] participation uh I make a I make a
motion to approve an intergoal
[1:38:09] governmental contract with rine County
for Metro drug unit participation
[1:38:17] second I hear a motion in a second um
again this is something that we
[1:38:21] discussed at a very recent Committee of
the whole meting meeting um the uh NY
[1:38:26] remember
that in in case anybody forgot the
[1:38:29] police chief is here uh just to give us
the
[1:38:34] highlights sure so the re uh County
Sheriff's Office runs the rine Metro
[1:38:40] drug task force Mount Pleasant is a part
of that task force it handles a variety
[1:38:44] of different drug investigations
throughout the county um this just gets
[1:38:48] us re um reup on our mou that we're um
we're currently operating under
[1:38:57] this is just continuing membership
right
[1:39:02] um and this one we can just do with a
Voice vote as
[1:39:06] well all in favor signify by saying I I
I opposed motion
[1:39:12] carries uh discussion possible motion
regarding resolution 29- 2024 which
[1:39:17] amends resolution
36-22 3 adopting the uh 2024 budget and
[1:39:25] authorizing acceptance of a grant from
SC Johnson for the procurement of a
[1:39:30] incident command crime scene response
vehicle Mr President I'd like to make a
[1:39:36] motion to approve budget resolution 29
d224 to authorize acceptance of a grant
[1:39:43] from SC Johnson for the procurement of
an incident command crime scene response
[1:39:50] vehicle second so I hear a motion in a
second um again this was uh you know
[1:39:55] something that we discussed at a very
recent Committee of the whole meeting uh
[1:39:59] does anybody need any other way in from
uh police chief uh not going to let you
[1:40:06] speak on this
one so uh uh being that it's a
[1:40:10] resolution we'll take a roll call vote
Anastasio I Caris I Vini hi baa hi
[1:40:19] wasburn hi doxy hi deg hi motion
carries just a note thank you Essie
[1:40:27] Johnson and the chief for having that
conversation with them
[1:40:31] so absolutely yeah well
done uh discussion possible motion
[1:40:36] regarding resolution 31- 2024 which
amends the 2024 and authorizing uh the
[1:40:44] use of US Department of Justice asset
forfeiture funds to purchase protective
[1:40:49] equipment for the police
department Mr President like to make a
[1:40:53] motion to approve budget resolution
31-22 authorizing the use of US
[1:40:59] Government Department of Justice asset
for funds to purchase protective
[1:41:06] equipment for the Mount Pleasant Police
Department
[1:41:10] second motion a second heard um again uh
recently discussed at the committee of
[1:41:17] the whole meeting I think it's a it's a
very wise use of those funds uh any else
[1:41:23] had anything to add no I'll just like to
add as you said very wise use other the
[1:41:29] funds and anything to protect our men
and woman in blue anything to protect
[1:41:34] the protectors that's
right um it's a resolution so roll call
[1:41:40] please Anastasio I Caris I Vini I baa I
wasburn I doxy hi de gr I motion carries
[1:41:51] uh any further thoughts uh as as we ride
into the Christmas season Mr President
[1:41:56] just a quickly uh congratulations to all
the Departments of the village who
[1:42:02] participated to make the Christmas tree
lighting yesterday and especially to
[1:42:08] those who order their weather of
50° this was packed next was pack I saw
[1:42:15] Nancy here I many staff I don't see
anywhere but it was very well done and I
[1:42:21] think that's one of the days that the
community really comes with the little
[1:42:26] kids
to to appreciate you know what the
[1:42:31] village their building their staff what
they do for them it was very well done
[1:42:37] it's turned into a wonderful little
event with a lot of
[1:42:40] smiles and I don't know if is legal or
not but i' like to wish everyone Merry
[1:42:46] Christmas happy
holiday I'll second that I'll second
[1:42:50] that I'll second that with no no I was
looking at CHR because you know in many
[1:42:54] entities they say don't bring
religion
[1:42:59] anyway thank you yeah let's let's let's
keep the lawyers out of this one
[1:43:05] do throws out one wait Mr President I do
have one thing okay um I just wanted to
[1:43:11] let everybody know um as some of you may
know I've been working with rine Habitat
[1:43:16] for Humanity and our restore the rine
restore is going to be opening right
[1:43:23] after the first of the year it's in the
old piggley wiggle grocery store uh in
[1:43:28] West rine at um Grove Avenue Grove
Avenue and
[1:43:34] Washington and it's really cool it's all
ready to go they've got the shelving up
[1:43:39] they're going to start taking donations
so clean out you know when we got to put
[1:43:43] all those new Christmas presents away
and you know if you're cleaning out your
[1:43:47] furniture but they're taking donations
of all sorts of goods building materials
[1:43:51] Furniture Etc open after the first of
the year and all of the money from those
[1:43:57] the restore goes to supporting not only
the staff at habitat but last year the
[1:44:02] proceeds built two houses we're hoping
with the restore and the new location
[1:44:07] it'll help us build
four looks great just the restore funds
[1:44:12] just the restore funds yeah I I took a
tour of the building a couple of months
[1:44:18] ago it's a beautiful facility very
nicely done yeah I saw some pictures
[1:44:22] recently we look really good yeah so
everyone come you know just spread the
[1:44:26] word that's how we're going to build and
create Workforce housing in our area we
[1:44:30] have the me Street house which is in
Mount Pleasant that is due to be uh
[1:44:35] given over to its new owners this coming
Friday there will be a blessing of the
[1:44:38] home so it fills a big need and uh we're
hoping through the restore to be able to
[1:44:44] expand the number of houses we can build
every year as long as you have the floor
[1:44:48] why not last motion I'm Mo and from
there I will move to adjourn Merry
[1:44:53] Christmas every merry I hear a second
all in favor signify by saying I I we
[1:44:58] stand adjourned thank you very much
everybody Merry Christmas