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I'm not saying on for or against one way
or the other but I would like to share a

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thought I graduated from high school
here in 1960 the population is the same

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now as it was then it has it growing for
a reason and we're a bedroom community

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or could be why we need to ask ourselves
that and maybe it's because we don't

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want to grow and we don't want to take
on anything that's got a new grips I'm

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not sure I don't have the answer to that
but yeah there's other towns that have

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50 inland tools but we don't have and
we're talking about a business here is

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what potential
just to make money bro taxes and whatnot

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and maybe we need to go back and search
why is it the way it is stuck in a rut

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we don't want progress heaven forbid we
have a stoplight way too much traffic I

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don't know but I think we're looking at
shove it out of business

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I'm not saying this is a good one I
don't know I don't have funky study but

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we something it'd be nice if we had a
grocery store and we don't have one

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because there isn't enough people to
support and I think what we need to look

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at is why is the attitude such that
we're not a Forsyte

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or some other small community or go to
Wisconsin and a little bit

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like this has got a whole bunch of
industry stuff around someplace

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some of that I don't know what all it is
and I'm not saying it's all within City

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Council's jurisdiction or the state of
Illinois anymore

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looking into all the issues raised for
me we have the economic development of

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plans for looking into only did you know
that your grace that's something you may

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want to get involved

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I feel

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Hey

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you know that's just

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does any research alcohol reached
alcoholism divorce and smoking causes

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cancer smoking has led a lot of people
to this baby which has now covers

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several deaths
what does smoking marijuana

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how many unforeseen problems are there
so that's kind of one fast pony

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if recreational marijuana this path
there can you have a feel for the 50

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we'll have to increase the police force
that regulators another person there so

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this time I don't know I mean it may be
this kind of like scandal but maybe we

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handle it
cui stuff but did they go crazy I know a

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lot of other agencies or other
departments are thinking the same thing

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expecting the worst and we're going to
learn as we go

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and other statistics that I have done
written down the canvas boosts the risk

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of accidents as much as 14 fold doubles
the odds for fatal collisions don't mix

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marijuana and driving

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why they're talking I just want to say
one thing make we're kind of getting

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away from the fact that it's going to be
legal no matter what we can do so it

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doesn't matter where they're getting it
from whether it's legally there's a

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black market or they're driving the
Springfield or Chicago and there is it

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there will be a black market there
because once it goes

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because what's January first and even
though it's legal the legal stuff is

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going to be expensive expensive and like
they said earlier they're done and we

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are in a where art county is then like I
forgot to put my map out I apologize

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we're grouped in with like 20 other
counties and that's a January 1st I

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believe there's no there's only gonna be
one allowed dispensary until they issue

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the next round like I said every year
timeframe to make applications and all

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of that so with so many with the limited
amount of dispensaries available

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obviously the higher population areas
are gonna get them first

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yeah but just a matter of time before
there goes saturate down Barlow oh yeah

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you know I don't necessarily think the
effects on driving working and I don't

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think it's a different than alcohol is
any different than the people who smoke

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interested in this work I think at some
point personal accountability has to

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enter into it I mean you can't just say
I mean there are always people who are

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going to use it like they've used
alcohol to drive would you deal with a

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drunk person coming out of the bar when
you deal with somebody who's hi

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stumbling out of the cannabis language
Tony well the guy that's hi it's

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probably not going to cause so much
trouble public roadway there I mean it's

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we yes yes we will deal with that I was
in the pirate service 20 years and half

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a dozen times you get called out two
o'clock in the morning to a DUI

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somebody's crashed in I can't think of
one time but the guy was too stoned to

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drive a DUI some alcohol but I can never
remember an instance where determined he

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was juiced Oh filled on that point one
of my co-workers was a gunnery sergeant

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in Vietnam and artillery
he always told me that the guy that was

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here not classy somewhere we've been
trying to tell our kids all these years

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apparently nobody remembers back on the
seventy one of our kids overdosed in

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town
he's on the Pew that's one kid that's

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what kid we lost to your statement
they're doing it let's legalize it well

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then let's open a brothel let's do that
whatever it says it could be moral let's

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do it
so before we can't do that I think the

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community would go down on morale if you
have to have your better one so damn bad

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go to Lincoln go to Springfield that
doesn't mean we have to do it now

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blasting I don't condone this everybody
that I knew intended to know

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particularly anyone could get you know
well you know we got a valid point in

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opinion but in my mind you know did you
share all that with your state

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representative

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because I had a business we should fall
from that we're adults

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be responsible that's the thing I see
now it's too easy

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if he was right
go to the high school they all protect

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each other but the drugs are wrapped
we don't need low than one because

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somebody pointers by attended silat to
get or give it to it Leafs make the guy

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go to the Lincoln or Springfield to take
it out I think work really turning over

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as he pointed out we graduated together
and I was never carded until after I was

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21 and I wondered what the heck that guy
was talking about when he asked me but I

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dress a little different when I went to
buy it after I was 21 but my point is

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that I talk to my daughter today
who's a little over 50 and I mentioned

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to her that I was coming to this meeting
and she says well you remember in pino

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when we went to junior high we had drugs
available to us remember what I came

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over
told you that and I had forgotten that

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but I got two kids Daenerys mine near I
know if they've used it they haven't

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abused it and they do drink and so do i
and the issues were talking about with

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marijuana and drivin and all of that is
no different than overindulgent with a

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bottle of something it's basically to
say it might be a little funny or

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different with each individual but we're
still back to you've got to take

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responsibility for your own actions and
you better teach that to your kids when

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they're little bitty kids I wonder if we
can look back through our archives

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because I'd really like to know how our
City Council in the early 1930s handled

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prohibition because you know that was
probably a hot topic at the signs where

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did you get a cold drink in 1928 in
Logan County here we got that reputation

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now I'm not saying that's a sway any
space decision to continue that

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reputation but I'm just curious to how
our forefathers handled that because I'm

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sure it was probably a pretty rough
issue kind of like we're sitting there

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talking about right now you know where
we got pros and cons on each side this

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opinion was opposed to his opinion too
you follow me but it's kind of curious I

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mean maybe that would be worth 10
minutes of our time sometime just to

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look at that you see

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oh I'm sure it'd be really interesting
creepy yes maybe the city attorney could

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address this do employers businesses
have any legal means now to not employ

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person because of marijuana use even
tools building on I would assume they're

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going to be hiring more people do they
have the right to not hire a person if

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he's using marijuana or high marijuana
do they have even any means of testing

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that's a really good question I don't
have a specific answer about my

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understanding that's that's not an
aspect of this particular law that I'm

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familiar with
so Hammond look into it I certainly can

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and provide us a written response to the
mayor but my understanding is the

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employers will treat it similarly to
alcohol juice so you can't be drunk on

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the job OSHA is not going to be happy if
you're drunk on the job the same would

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apply if you're under the influence of
you know any type of narcotic medication

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things like that I understand marijuana
stays in your system for quite a while

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also not familiar from what I've read
you can you can the test can show you

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that the trace amounts in the blood but
the effects of it but I think as far as

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I've read every employer has the right
to make their own there's nothing in the

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laws that protect you from your job like
you can't go to work stoned out of your

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mind every day and say well it's legal
yeah that's an area that's beyond what

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the law that's in front of the city
comes late tonight I've worked in

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factories many many years
there's somebody to be working in there

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and be high on marijuana or alcohol you
know no no that is not a outcome that

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would be covered by the ordinance that's
before the City Council tonight the only

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thing that has been prepared by our
attorney is one that would not allow us

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whatsoever at this time that the council
will work with with myself and then the

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attorney to amend it the way they see
fit and and you know and passed that

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before the beginning of the year
whatever decision they make I've taken a

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straw poll pretty close to being typed
yeah dan Spock is an alderman that is

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not on this tonight he he had some and
an emergency with Amber and the company

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he works for he told me today not really
to make a statement but but he is in

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favor of allowing the business of
allowing a business of that sort I

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believe you heard what it was today the
only one that is kind of on the fence I

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believe there's been some mister
rittmeister

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so if that was the case that would put
us by a split what was your take

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I was trying to get away I am on the
tie-breaking vote but at the same time I

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don't I would like to leave this up to
the City Council I think that time is on

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our side I think that by rushing into it
and you like you said I totally agree

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with that
I believe rushing into it is something

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that maybe that the city may not you
know necessarily admire when when it

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happens at the same time I I understand
everybody's aspect on the revenue it's a

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tough one I was hoping to not have to
break the tie I'll be completely honest

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with you but if I if I have to have to
self as the legislative branch of the

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City Council this decision lies directly
with the male diamond of the City

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Council yes tell us something that into

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that very well good but if we don't act
on Phyllis in some way accordingly then

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we are outward bound honest to the state
code starting January 1 so if we don't

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make any type of restrictions or
allowances it'll basically be free right

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and at which time I Queen Liz is the
worst thing it means that as long as

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they are up as long as they are
following that the Illinois the Illinois

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me this is the Illinois code then they
are allowed to do business within our

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city lines because we don't have a
restriction on so if we waited till

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March and somebody came in and did over
we could not stop there your mr. Mertz

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say that if they say okay does they have
to issue a license to do this or this

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yeah it would have to get a license from
us first okay Norman of agriculture's

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Hanlon I didn't know if it was like the
liquor license like we can't get a

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liquor license from the state of
Illinois unless you have a city one

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there was this specific line item in the
frequently asked questions that address

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that's right it was up to the state home

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completely disarmed attacks culture is
the one that's administering this

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suspensory license so the state has also
issue a dispensary license if you say

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okay for somebody doesn't necessarily is
going to be somebody from milk elasticy

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probably somebody outside good you are
suspended

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they only issue so many yep so my
believe our number is 75 75 and what

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they call the first way there'll be
another 75 a year from that so we're not

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even to perfuse oh we're not even the
January 1st yet so I know it's a

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phase-in type situation not anybody you
have to go through a very rigorous

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application process to get that license
so even if you say ok we're still here

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oh yeah oh yes I would think that if
only 75 license are issued in the first

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year the chances of one of those 75
people choosing my philosophy as

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employees of their businesses probably
slim but it's how much time you're

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getting that yeah now $1,000 50 maybe
they might show his devil and brought it

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back a year from now same time frame yes

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my understanding this right as far as
the City Council polls should have not

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really talked about if we do have a so
any place that what you would do with

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the money what your guidelines would be
for the people the person who the

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business not as far as like what the
extra sales tax that we will put on them

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as far as I'm under the impression and
Tim might know this better than I would

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it would just go into our sales tax line
item which would go directly to our

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general fund spend it on whatever you
know am I correct in that deference it

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sounds like that business district tax
the county school you know tax that's

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dispersed by the

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there any other comments

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is there any alderman that would like we
can rescind the liquor licenses it's the

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same thing well same thing we well we
just you know evade all the liquor

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licenses when they expire to expire we
don't reissue

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you know the same effect I would say
that that's what the people wanted I

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okay with that if that's what I think
this issue particularly the council's

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split on it from the input tonight it
sound like the public is split just as

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well I do they could be good idea to
just put it on the referendum and see a

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larger poll takes maybe not by you put
on or that way but there's certainly not

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one site that's gonna appease a majority
of people on this issue we can't put it

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on a referendum if we need the decision
here and number two to the filing

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deadline is starting today so I don't
know

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the county has election process setup or
a local issue like I just would think

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it'd be too late to put it on the market
right Kelly you have any help with that

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by chance right I know it is but I know
there's my I didn't know if you this

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might know right

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I don't know if maybe if you would have
another one of these but start off by

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trying to maybe explaining more I don't
know if everybody understands exactly

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the workings of a dispensary or having
somebody explaining I don't know if

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everybody is understanding truly what
what is going to happen if nobody in the

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state of Illinois doesn't show and
that's just the thing we we have no idea

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what to expect
you could probably talk I mean I mean

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but I think that I know there's some
people here thank you if they're not I

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don't think they're grasping even what
or even some with web series right I

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mean even some of the line and I know
it's gonna be a learning process it's

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like Tony said from January 1st on it's
gonna be a learning process to the older

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men that are for it what would you
propose as opposed to the sample

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ordinance that I have handed out that
would allow an I know such businesses

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what do you propose that we how we amend
this to allow certain ones or not

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certain ones that that is something you
know I believe I believe when we when we

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do make the call on this we'll have to
have an ordinance saying both how it is

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how it is not going to be allowed or how
it is what's what's everybody's thoughts

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on that are you looking to make them
just a dispensary only to start with as

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far as like the other related business
yes they rolled it all up I would open

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for all avail the cultivator I loved
animals

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very well-organized operation and you
would not make you would not believe how

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much ventilation reduce the smells and
how much money they're putting in to

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control the after-effects so it'll smell
less than you know a hog farm type you

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know just maybe that's a bad analogy
from that's kind of what you have