[0:20] I'm not saying on for or against one way
or the other but I would like to share a
[0:26] thought I graduated from high school
here in 1960 the population is the same
[0:37] now as it was then it has it growing for
a reason and we're a bedroom community
[0:48] or could be why we need to ask ourselves
that and maybe it's because we don't
[0:59] want to grow and we don't want to take
on anything that's got a new grips I'm
[1:06] not sure I don't have the answer to that
but yeah there's other towns that have
[1:13] 50 inland tools but we don't have and
we're talking about a business here is
[1:22] what potential
just to make money bro taxes and whatnot
[1:28] and maybe we need to go back and search
why is it the way it is stuck in a rut
[1:39] we don't want progress heaven forbid we
have a stoplight way too much traffic I
[1:46] don't know but I think we're looking at
shove it out of business
[1:53] I'm not saying this is a good one I
don't know I don't have funky study but
[2:01] we something it'd be nice if we had a
grocery store and we don't have one
[2:10] because there isn't enough people to
support and I think what we need to look
[2:18] at is why is the attitude such that
we're not a Forsyte
[2:26] or some other small community or go to
Wisconsin and a little bit
[2:33] like this has got a whole bunch of
industry stuff around someplace
[2:41] some of that I don't know what all it is
and I'm not saying it's all within City
[2:47] Council's jurisdiction or the state of
Illinois anymore
[2:53] looking into all the issues raised for
me we have the economic development of
[2:59] plans for looking into only did you know
that your grace that's something you may
[3:03] want to get involved
[3:14] I feel
[3:55] [Music]
[4:15] [Music]
[4:23] [Music]
[4:30] Hey
[5:00] [Music]
[5:05] you know that's just
[5:30] [Music]
[6:23] does any research alcohol reached
alcoholism divorce and smoking causes
[6:48] cancer smoking has led a lot of people
to this baby which has now covers
[6:56] several deaths
what does smoking marijuana
[7:02] how many unforeseen problems are there
so that's kind of one fast pony
[7:11] if recreational marijuana this path
there can you have a feel for the 50
[7:21] we'll have to increase the police force
that regulators another person there so
[7:31] this time I don't know I mean it may be
this kind of like scandal but maybe we
[7:36] handle it
cui stuff but did they go crazy I know a
[7:44] lot of other agencies or other
departments are thinking the same thing
[7:49] expecting the worst and we're going to
learn as we go
[8:05] and other statistics that I have done
written down the canvas boosts the risk
[8:10] of accidents as much as 14 fold doubles
the odds for fatal collisions don't mix
[8:18] marijuana and driving
[8:45] why they're talking I just want to say
one thing make we're kind of getting
[8:49] away from the fact that it's going to be
legal no matter what we can do so it
[8:57] doesn't matter where they're getting it
from whether it's legally there's a
[9:00] black market or they're driving the
Springfield or Chicago and there is it
[9:05] there will be a black market there
because once it goes
[9:08] because what's January first and even
though it's legal the legal stuff is
[9:14] going to be expensive expensive and like
they said earlier they're done and we
[9:27] are in a where art county is then like I
forgot to put my map out I apologize
[9:31] we're grouped in with like 20 other
counties and that's a January 1st I
[9:35] believe there's no there's only gonna be
one allowed dispensary until they issue
[9:40] the next round like I said every year
timeframe to make applications and all
[9:52] of that so with so many with the limited
amount of dispensaries available
[9:58] obviously the higher population areas
are gonna get them first
[10:02] yeah but just a matter of time before
there goes saturate down Barlow oh yeah
[10:19] you know I don't necessarily think the
effects on driving working and I don't
[10:24] think it's a different than alcohol is
any different than the people who smoke
[10:28] interested in this work I think at some
point personal accountability has to
[10:33] enter into it I mean you can't just say
I mean there are always people who are
[10:39] going to use it like they've used
alcohol to drive would you deal with a
[10:56] drunk person coming out of the bar when
you deal with somebody who's hi
[11:00] stumbling out of the cannabis language
Tony well the guy that's hi it's
[11:08] probably not going to cause so much
trouble public roadway there I mean it's
[11:13] we yes yes we will deal with that I was
in the pirate service 20 years and half
[11:21] a dozen times you get called out two
o'clock in the morning to a DUI
[11:25] somebody's crashed in I can't think of
one time but the guy was too stoned to
[11:31] drive a DUI some alcohol but I can never
remember an instance where determined he
[11:38] was juiced Oh filled on that point one
of my co-workers was a gunnery sergeant
[11:45] in Vietnam and artillery
he always told me that the guy that was
[11:55] [Music]
[12:09] [Music]
[12:37] here not classy somewhere we've been
trying to tell our kids all these years
[12:41] apparently nobody remembers back on the
seventy one of our kids overdosed in
[12:46] town
he's on the Pew that's one kid that's
[12:52] what kid we lost to your statement
they're doing it let's legalize it well
[12:58] then let's open a brothel let's do that
whatever it says it could be moral let's
[13:05] do it
so before we can't do that I think the
[13:11] community would go down on morale if you
have to have your better one so damn bad
[13:17] go to Lincoln go to Springfield that
doesn't mean we have to do it now
[13:21] blasting I don't condone this everybody
that I knew intended to know
[13:27] particularly anyone could get you know
well you know we got a valid point in
[13:37] opinion but in my mind you know did you
share all that with your state
[13:40] representative
[14:01] because I had a business we should fall
from that we're adults
[14:52] be responsible that's the thing I see
now it's too easy
[15:05] if he was right
go to the high school they all protect
[15:11] each other but the drugs are wrapped
we don't need low than one because
[15:14] somebody pointers by attended silat to
get or give it to it Leafs make the guy
[15:23] go to the Lincoln or Springfield to take
it out I think work really turning over
[15:46] [Laughter]
[16:46] as he pointed out we graduated together
and I was never carded until after I was
[16:57] 21 and I wondered what the heck that guy
was talking about when he asked me but I
[17:03] dress a little different when I went to
buy it after I was 21 but my point is
[17:10] that I talk to my daughter today
who's a little over 50 and I mentioned
[17:18] to her that I was coming to this meeting
and she says well you remember in pino
[17:26] when we went to junior high we had drugs
available to us remember what I came
[17:32] over
told you that and I had forgotten that
[17:38] but I got two kids Daenerys mine near I
know if they've used it they haven't
[17:45] abused it and they do drink and so do i
and the issues were talking about with
[17:54] marijuana and drivin and all of that is
no different than overindulgent with a
[18:00] bottle of something it's basically to
say it might be a little funny or
[18:07] different with each individual but we're
still back to you've got to take
[18:16] responsibility for your own actions and
you better teach that to your kids when
[18:22] they're little bitty kids I wonder if we
can look back through our archives
[18:33] because I'd really like to know how our
City Council in the early 1930s handled
[18:39] prohibition because you know that was
probably a hot topic at the signs where
[18:50] did you get a cold drink in 1928 in
Logan County here we got that reputation
[18:58] now I'm not saying that's a sway any
space decision to continue that
[19:02] reputation but I'm just curious to how
our forefathers handled that because I'm
[19:08] sure it was probably a pretty rough
issue kind of like we're sitting there
[19:11] talking about right now you know where
we got pros and cons on each side this
[19:16] opinion was opposed to his opinion too
you follow me but it's kind of curious I
[19:20] mean maybe that would be worth 10
minutes of our time sometime just to
[19:24] look at that you see
[19:29] oh I'm sure it'd be really interesting
creepy yes maybe the city attorney could
[19:40] address this do employers businesses
have any legal means now to not employ
[19:49] person because of marijuana use even
tools building on I would assume they're
[19:57] going to be hiring more people do they
have the right to not hire a person if
[20:04] he's using marijuana or high marijuana
do they have even any means of testing
[20:14] that's a really good question I don't
have a specific answer about my
[20:18] understanding that's that's not an
aspect of this particular law that I'm
[20:23] familiar with
so Hammond look into it I certainly can
[20:26] and provide us a written response to the
mayor but my understanding is the
[20:31] employers will treat it similarly to
alcohol juice so you can't be drunk on
[20:38] the job OSHA is not going to be happy if
you're drunk on the job the same would
[20:44] apply if you're under the influence of
you know any type of narcotic medication
[20:51] things like that I understand marijuana
stays in your system for quite a while
[20:56] also not familiar from what I've read
you can you can the test can show you
[21:04] that the trace amounts in the blood but
the effects of it but I think as far as
[21:10] I've read every employer has the right
to make their own there's nothing in the
[21:14] laws that protect you from your job like
you can't go to work stoned out of your
[21:19] mind every day and say well it's legal
yeah that's an area that's beyond what
[21:24] the law that's in front of the city
comes late tonight I've worked in
[21:30] factories many many years
there's somebody to be working in there
[21:35] and be high on marijuana or alcohol you
know no no that is not a outcome that
[21:46] would be covered by the ordinance that's
before the City Council tonight the only
[21:59] thing that has been prepared by our
attorney is one that would not allow us
[22:02] whatsoever at this time that the council
will work with with myself and then the
[22:08] attorney to amend it the way they see
fit and and you know and passed that
[22:14] before the beginning of the year
whatever decision they make I've taken a
[22:18] straw poll pretty close to being typed
yeah dan Spock is an alderman that is
[22:26] not on this tonight he he had some and
an emergency with Amber and the company
[22:30] he works for he told me today not really
to make a statement but but he is in
[22:37] favor of allowing the business of
allowing a business of that sort I
[22:41] believe you heard what it was today the
only one that is kind of on the fence I
[22:46] believe there's been some mister
rittmeister
[22:48] so if that was the case that would put
us by a split what was your take
[22:58] I was trying to get away I am on the
tie-breaking vote but at the same time I
[23:06] don't I would like to leave this up to
the City Council I think that time is on
[23:13] our side I think that by rushing into it
and you like you said I totally agree
[23:17] with that
I believe rushing into it is something
[23:19] that maybe that the city may not you
know necessarily admire when when it
[23:26] happens at the same time I I understand
everybody's aspect on the revenue it's a
[23:31] tough one I was hoping to not have to
break the tie I'll be completely honest
[23:37] with you but if I if I have to have to
self as the legislative branch of the
[23:43] City Council this decision lies directly
with the male diamond of the City
[23:47] Council yes tell us something that into
[24:09] that very well good but if we don't act
on Phyllis in some way accordingly then
[24:15] we are outward bound honest to the state
code starting January 1 so if we don't
[24:20] make any type of restrictions or
allowances it'll basically be free right
[24:25] and at which time I Queen Liz is the
worst thing it means that as long as
[24:29] they are up as long as they are
following that the Illinois the Illinois
[24:32] me this is the Illinois code then they
are allowed to do business within our
[24:36] city lines because we don't have a
restriction on so if we waited till
[24:40] March and somebody came in and did over
we could not stop there your mr. Mertz
[24:50] say that if they say okay does they have
to issue a license to do this or this
[24:57] yeah it would have to get a license from
us first okay Norman of agriculture's
[25:09] Hanlon I didn't know if it was like the
liquor license like we can't get a
[25:11] liquor license from the state of
Illinois unless you have a city one
[25:14] there was this specific line item in the
frequently asked questions that address
[25:18] that's right it was up to the state home
[25:26] completely disarmed attacks culture is
the one that's administering this
[25:30] suspensory license so the state has also
issue a dispensary license if you say
[25:36] okay for somebody doesn't necessarily is
going to be somebody from milk elasticy
[25:46] probably somebody outside good you are
suspended
[25:52] they only issue so many yep so my
believe our number is 75 75 and what
[25:59] they call the first way there'll be
another 75 a year from that so we're not
[26:04] even to perfuse oh we're not even the
January 1st yet so I know it's a
[26:12] phase-in type situation not anybody you
have to go through a very rigorous
[26:16] application process to get that license
so even if you say ok we're still here
[26:22] oh yeah oh yes I would think that if
only 75 license are issued in the first
[26:26] year the chances of one of those 75
people choosing my philosophy as
[26:30] employees of their businesses probably
slim but it's how much time you're
[26:33] getting that yeah now $1,000 50 maybe
they might show his devil and brought it
[26:39] back a year from now same time frame yes
[27:22] my understanding this right as far as
the City Council polls should have not
[27:27] really talked about if we do have a so
any place that what you would do with
[27:36] the money what your guidelines would be
for the people the person who the
[27:41] business not as far as like what the
extra sales tax that we will put on them
[27:51] as far as I'm under the impression and
Tim might know this better than I would
[27:55] it would just go into our sales tax line
item which would go directly to our
[27:59] general fund spend it on whatever you
know am I correct in that deference it
[28:06] sounds like that business district tax
the county school you know tax that's
[28:12] dispersed by the
[28:24] there any other comments
[28:30] is there any alderman that would like we
can rescind the liquor licenses it's the
[29:03] same thing well same thing we well we
just you know evade all the liquor
[29:19] licenses when they expire to expire we
don't reissue
[29:22] you know the same effect I would say
that that's what the people wanted I
[29:28] okay with that if that's what I think
this issue particularly the council's
[29:35] split on it from the input tonight it
sound like the public is split just as
[29:40] well I do they could be good idea to
just put it on the referendum and see a
[29:48] larger poll takes maybe not by you put
on or that way but there's certainly not
[29:58] one site that's gonna appease a majority
of people on this issue we can't put it
[30:04] on a referendum if we need the decision
here and number two to the filing
[30:09] deadline is starting today so I don't
know
[30:12] the county has election process setup or
a local issue like I just would think
[30:19] it'd be too late to put it on the market
right Kelly you have any help with that
[30:21] by chance right I know it is but I know
there's my I didn't know if you this
[30:27] might know right
[31:00] I don't know if maybe if you would have
another one of these but start off by
[31:10] trying to maybe explaining more I don't
know if everybody understands exactly
[31:16] the workings of a dispensary or having
somebody explaining I don't know if
[31:24] everybody is understanding truly what
what is going to happen if nobody in the
[31:32] state of Illinois doesn't show and
that's just the thing we we have no idea
[31:36] what to expect
you could probably talk I mean I mean
[31:46] but I think that I know there's some
people here thank you if they're not I
[31:51] don't think they're grasping even what
or even some with web series right I
[31:58] mean even some of the line and I know
it's gonna be a learning process it's
[32:02] like Tony said from January 1st on it's
gonna be a learning process to the older
[32:19] men that are for it what would you
propose as opposed to the sample
[32:22] ordinance that I have handed out that
would allow an I know such businesses
[32:26] what do you propose that we how we amend
this to allow certain ones or not
[32:31] certain ones that that is something you
know I believe I believe when we when we
[32:35] do make the call on this we'll have to
have an ordinance saying both how it is
[32:38] how it is not going to be allowed or how
it is what's what's everybody's thoughts
[32:43] on that are you looking to make them
just a dispensary only to start with as
[32:54] far as like the other related business
yes they rolled it all up I would open
[33:00] for all avail the cultivator I loved
animals
[33:04] very well-organized operation and you
would not make you would not believe how
[33:10] much ventilation reduce the smells and
how much money they're putting in to
[33:15] control the after-effects so it'll smell
less than you know a hog farm type you
[33:21] know just maybe that's a bad analogy
from that's kind of what you have