1 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:07,279 call the meeting to order at 6:31 p.m. 2 00:00:07,279 --> 00:00:09,599 Welcome to all who are here in person as 3 00:00:09,599 --> 00:00:14,000 well as those on screen. Um the first 4 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:16,720 order is uh do we have any amendments to 5 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:20,480 the agenda and our board members? 6 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:24,950 Hearing 7 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:28,240 none, we will move towards public 8 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:32,640 comment. I'm doing readable 9 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:34,239 expectation 10 00:00:34,239 --> 00:00:37,280 for persons wishing to give comment. 11 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:39,520 Persons persons wishing to speak must 12 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:41,120 place their name and town of residence 13 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:42,960 on the signing sheet which I believe is 14 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:47,280 over there on one of the chairs or um 15 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:49,520 they may raise their Zoom hand and be 16 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:52,079 acknowledged. 17 00:00:52,079 --> 00:00:53,920 When you are acknowledged, please say 18 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:56,399 the your name in the town that you 19 00:00:56,399 --> 00:00:59,840 belong to. And in our meetings, we have 20 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:02,000 two minutes per person. This is strictly 21 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:05,830 monitored. 22 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:11,520 And once you are acknowledged 23 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:14,240 uh you may start to speak and what we 24 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:16,960 prefer to do is that if there's a 25 00:01:16,960 --> 00:01:18,880 specific topic that people are 26 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:22,080 interested in making comment about we 27 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:24,560 will do those comments first and nobody 28 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:27,040 has a second opportunity until all those 29 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:29,759 who wish we recognize uh will have the 30 00:01:29,759 --> 00:01:32,000 opportunity to make that kind of public 31 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:33,680 comment. 32 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:35,840 Order into quorum shall be observed by 33 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:38,159 all persons present at the meeting. 34 00:01:38,159 --> 00:01:40,000 Neither members of the body nor the 35 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:41,840 members of the public shall delay or 36 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:43,680 interrupt the proceedings of or the 37 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:46,079 peace of the meeting or interrupt or 38 00:01:46,079 --> 00:01:48,720 disturb any member while speaking. 39 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:50,640 Members of the body and members of the 40 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:53,759 public um prohibited from making 41 00:01:53,759 --> 00:01:56,560 personal and pertinent threatening or 42 00:01:56,560 --> 00:02:01,109 protating remarks. 43 00:02:01,119 --> 00:02:02,719 Members of the body and members of the 44 00:02:02,719 --> 00:02:04,719 public shall obey the book the orders of 45 00:02:04,719 --> 00:02:07,600 the chair or other presiding member and 46 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:09,520 all comments should be directed to the 47 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:12,480 body or the chair not anyone other 48 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:15,840 individual persons. So I will open it up 49 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,560 first to the floor. If there's anyone 50 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:20,160 here who would like to make public 51 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:26,390 comment you can raise your hand. 52 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:30,239 » Yes. Oh but we have three names. 53 00:02:30,239 --> 00:02:31,920 Who's the first name on the list? 54 00:02:31,920 --> 00:02:33,040 >> Claire Gard. 55 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:36,319 >> Oh, she's she's just We asked you to say 56 00:02:36,319 --> 00:02:37,760 your penny, but also if you want to 57 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:40,640 speak and so who's second? 58 00:02:40,640 --> 00:02:43,280 I am I 59 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:46,160 um I'm Adam. 60 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:49,680 I'll sit this way so I can back you. Um 61 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:52,239 should I stop start talking? Okay, 62 00:02:52,239 --> 00:02:54,000 great. All right. Good evening. I'm Adam 63 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:56,080 Bourson here from Woodstock and um just 64 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:58,000 want to start by thanking uh the 65 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,480 teachers and the staff and the and the 66 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:02,879 um members of the board. Um we have 67 00:03:02,879 --> 00:03:05,120 fantastic school system and a lot of 68 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:06,720 energy and that goes into that and I 69 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:08,319 just want to acknowledge that and also 70 00:03:08,319 --> 00:03:10,000 on behalf of my kids I promised them 71 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:12,319 that I would thank this cafeteria staff. 72 00:03:12,319 --> 00:03:14,080 We do a really good job making some 73 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:17,200 yummy food. So hopefully that 74 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:18,640 okay so I prepared a quick written 75 00:03:18,640 --> 00:03:20,560 statement only because I know there's 76 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:22,159 two minutes and I want to try to adhere 77 00:03:22,159 --> 00:03:25,120 to that. Um, so even in a strong system, 78 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:27,599 there are always places where small 79 00:03:27,599 --> 00:03:29,760 changes can improve transparency, 80 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:31,840 strengthen outcomes, and prevent 81 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:34,640 problems later. I think prek is one of 82 00:03:34,640 --> 00:03:37,519 those areas. The district has written u 83 00:03:37,519 --> 00:03:40,480 enrollment policies and Vermont gives 84 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:43,360 the district some discretion how they 85 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:47,200 can um be applied. So state rules 2610, 86 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:50,480 2611, 2612, they give a lot of useful 87 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:52,879 framework around cost, transparency, 88 00:03:52,879 --> 00:03:56,560 outcomes and access. So preK is also a 89 00:03:56,560 --> 00:04:00,159 very big part of Wes. Last year 59 preK 90 00:04:00,159 --> 00:04:02,080 students attended compared to 30 91 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:04,000 kindergarten students. So I think the 92 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:06,319 board and the public should have some 93 00:04:06,319 --> 00:04:08,239 simple picture as to what that looks 94 00:04:08,239 --> 00:04:10,400 like and how it's planning out. How many 95 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:12,799 seats do we have? Who's applying by age 96 00:04:12,799 --> 00:04:15,920 in town? How does the weight list move? 97 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:18,400 What does prek cost per student? And 98 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:20,160 what do we know about the readiness and 99 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:22,960 where children go after prek? We can 100 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:24,400 report this in aggregate while 101 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:26,000 protecting the kids and the students 102 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:29,120 identities. In addition, when there is a 103 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:32,320 substantial weight list, uh it may also 104 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:35,120 make sense to preserve some flexibility 105 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:37,120 at the end of the school year when we 106 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:39,919 have a clearer picture of demand across 107 00:04:39,919 --> 00:04:42,000 age group. So in conclusion, I'm just 108 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,080 going to ask the board to consider three 109 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:46,800 steps. Number one, publish the aggregate 110 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,120 data. Number two, review how the 111 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:51,360 existing policies are being applied. And 112 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:53,440 three, consider some sort of independ 113 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:56,160 independent review of the prek program. 114 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:57,759 So I see this as an opportunity to make 115 00:04:57,759 --> 00:04:59,680 a strong program even better. Thank you 116 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:00,800 very much. 117 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:06,070 >> Thank you. [clears throat] Thank you. 118 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:09,759 Um, I'll take a person from the Zoom a 119 00:05:09,759 --> 00:05:12,800 Zoom member that would like to give a 120 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:15,280 public comment. You're welcome to raise 121 00:05:15,280 --> 00:05:21,350 your hand. 122 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:25,039 » Yes. Hi. Um, I was curious why uh there 123 00:05:25,039 --> 00:05:28,880 was a meeting that had occurred. I know 124 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:31,600 it didn't have a quorum. Um, but there 125 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:33,759 were minutes that were posted and then 126 00:05:33,759 --> 00:05:36,800 taken down and replaced by a notice of 127 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:39,520 no quorum as if a meeting therefore did 128 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:41,600 not occur. And I understand that when 129 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:43,759 there's not a quorum, uh, obviously 130 00:05:43,759 --> 00:05:45,440 there can't be any voting that occurs, 131 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:47,199 but the meeting appears to have 132 00:05:47,199 --> 00:05:49,039 occurred. I I just I don't understand 133 00:05:49,039 --> 00:05:50,880 what that disappearance of minutes was 134 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:52,560 all about. Is there some information 135 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:55,440 that you could please uh provide to us? 136 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:58,479 Oh, by the way, I'm from Woodstock. 137 00:05:58,479 --> 00:06:00,960 I'll just briefly say that when we don't 138 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:03,520 have a quorum, we don't record minutes 139 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:06,639 and the admin uh the HR person who was 140 00:06:06,639 --> 00:06:09,360 doing the minutes that night um realized 141 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:11,600 after the fact that that there were no 142 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:13,759 minutes to be made and so she removed 143 00:06:13,759 --> 00:06:17,430 them. 144 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:20,960 >> Thank you. 145 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:25,600 >> Is there anyone else in the room? Yes. 146 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:30,880 >> Uh hello, I'm Robin. I'm a uh Alex. I'm 147 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:34,720 a Woodstock uh high school senior. Uh, 148 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:37,759 and I would like to talk about the new 149 00:06:37,759 --> 00:06:41,440 policy as of this year that says that 150 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:43,120 high school students cannot enter the 151 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:45,360 building until 152 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:47,440 uh 7:40, 153 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:50,800 which is 154 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:52,800 I I need to find a better wording than 155 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:56,319 not good, but uh not good. [laughter] 156 00:06:56,319 --> 00:07:01,759 Um, it a lot of students do arrive like 157 00:07:01,759 --> 00:07:05,680 significantly before 7:40. I uh at the 158 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:07,120 weeks when I'm at my mom's house, I 159 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:09,599 arrive at 7:20 because she works 40 160 00:07:09,599 --> 00:07:10,639 minutes [snorts] away and has to be 161 00:07:10,639 --> 00:07:14,240 there by 8:00. Um and I I'm not the only 162 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:16,800 one. There's several other groups of 163 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:21,280 kids who arrive that early or in that 20 164 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:26,319 minute span between 7:20 and 7:40. And 165 00:07:26,319 --> 00:07:29,840 there's nowhere for us to go in this new 166 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:34,000 with this new policy. And um I 167 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:38,000 understand that it's a like union 168 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:41,510 something, 169 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:44,160 but I I've talked to several different 170 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:46,720 teachers about this and they said that 171 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:50,080 they'd be willing to have students in 172 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:53,520 their room before that time um 173 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:55,199 personally. 174 00:07:55,199 --> 00:07:59,680 Uh, so I was wondering I was hoping for 175 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,800 that policy to be relooked at and 176 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:07,599 re-reviewed to um allow for students who 177 00:08:07,599 --> 00:08:10,240 arrive before that time to have a place 178 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:13,360 inside because when it's snowing or 179 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:16,560 raining or just cold like we cannot be 180 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:19,039 outside that this is this is not 181 00:08:19,039 --> 00:08:22,080 something we we can be doing all year 182 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:25,680 especially in Vermont. So I I would I 183 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:27,840 would like the board to reconsider that 184 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:29,759 if possible. 185 00:08:29,759 --> 00:08:31,360 Thank you at line. We will look into 186 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:35,190 that. Thank you. 187 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:37,519 All right. Uh is there somebody on who 188 00:08:37,519 --> 00:08:45,990 would like to make a comment? 189 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:48,320 All right. Seeing no other hands raised. 190 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:51,360 Um are there anyone is there anyone here 191 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:54,959 who still would like to make a comment? 192 00:08:54,959 --> 00:08:56,560 All right, I'm going to close the public 193 00:08:56,560 --> 00:08:58,399 comment. We do have it again at the end 194 00:08:58,399 --> 00:09:00,240 of the meeting. 195 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,800 So, we're going to start with um the 196 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:04,160 superintendent report. 197 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:06,720 >> Great. And you'll find in the workbook 198 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:08,320 um just introduction about the start of 199 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:10,480 the school year, how the process 200 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:12,640 happened and a project that I'm working 201 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:14,880 on called the Mountain Views Way, which 202 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:17,279 is an opportunity for me to coordinate 203 00:09:17,279 --> 00:09:19,519 all the different programs and resources 204 00:09:19,519 --> 00:09:21,839 we have in the district prior to me 205 00:09:21,839 --> 00:09:24,000 leaving. So really trying to work with 206 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:26,160 the team to do that. Um, what I'd really 207 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:28,959 like to use my time though is to share a 208 00:09:28,959 --> 00:09:32,320 letter that um, I received on Friday 209 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:35,760 from the um, Acts 170 lead facilitator 210 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:40,959 Dave Gonz. Um, as you know, Act 170 is 211 00:09:40,959 --> 00:09:44,160 requiring um, districts, SU's 212 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:45,920 supervisory unions, supervisory 213 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:47,360 districts to get together and have 214 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:49,920 conversations about voluntary mergers. 215 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:52,160 It's a very aggressive schedule to 216 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:54,320 accomplish all this in Act 170. So I 217 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:56,080 just wanted to update you with the the 218 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:57,600 work that's been done and what are the 219 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:00,640 next steps. So regional facilitators are 220 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:02,480 currently undergoing a September 221 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:05,760 training series um covering AFL70 222 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:07,279 governance history good faith 223 00:10:07,279 --> 00:10:10,160 participation meeting logistics and news 224 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:13,279 facilitation including a review of the 225 00:10:13,279 --> 00:10:16,399 AOE uh quality framework with Secretary 226 00:10:16,399 --> 00:10:19,839 Saunders. Um, a finalized definition for 227 00:10:19,839 --> 00:10:22,399 good faith, which is a main term in act 228 00:10:22,399 --> 00:10:24,640 170, is targeted for release by 229 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:27,760 September 25th after vet uh vetting with 230 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:30,640 stakeholders, board design, and 231 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:32,320 superintendents can expect to be 232 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:34,399 contacted by regional facilitators 233 00:10:34,399 --> 00:10:37,040 starting September 18th. And so we have 234 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:39,279 someone who's identified from Boston 235 00:10:39,279 --> 00:10:41,839 area who will be working with us um to 236 00:10:41,839 --> 00:10:44,160 set up the initial merger committee 237 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:47,680 meetings. Districts and SUS are likely 238 00:10:47,680 --> 00:10:51,200 to consider adding an act 17 uh resource 239 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:53,680 section or subsection to their website 240 00:10:53,680 --> 00:10:55,200 which has the agendas, minutes, 241 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:56,959 warnings, and video links. We will do 242 00:10:56,959 --> 00:10:58,937 that. Emergency committee meetings 243 00:10:58,937 --> 00:11:00,079 [clears throat] will initially begin 244 00:11:00,079 --> 00:11:03,360 with one appointed board designate per 245 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:06,480 board for organizational purposes at 246 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:08,480 which facilitators will present two 247 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:10,800 approaches to establish proportional 248 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:13,760 representation. So currently no matter 249 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:16,160 the size of the district there will be 250 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:19,120 one representative. So for our group 251 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:21,440 Bartford has one, 252 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:23,760 Southeast which has three districts will 253 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:26,959 have three. We will have one. So looking 254 00:11:26,959 --> 00:11:29,519 at that very different sizes Hartford 255 00:11:29,519 --> 00:11:31,839 versus H Heartland. So proportional 256 00:11:31,839 --> 00:11:33,519 representation will be one of the topics 257 00:11:33,519 --> 00:11:35,360 that will be discussed and currently 258 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:36,800 they have two different approaches that 259 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:39,360 they're going to bring to their groups. 260 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:41,600 Already there have been 11 requests for 261 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,160 changes in group assignments and have 262 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:46,720 been received by Dave. Uh and a 263 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:48,560 preliminary set of groupings will be 264 00:11:48,560 --> 00:11:51,760 released on September 18th subject to a 265 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:53,839 local board consultation feedback 266 00:11:53,839 --> 00:11:56,000 window. So that's in process. So not 267 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:57,279 everybody wants to be in the group they 268 00:11:57,279 --> 00:11:59,519 were originally assigned on. There is a 269 00:11:59,519 --> 00:12:02,160 process to move between groups. And then 270 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:04,240 grouping requests are evaluated against 271 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:06,399 statutory requirements of containing a 272 00:12:06,399 --> 00:12:09,120 minimum of 2,000 students. Meaning those 273 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:11,760 individuals, those districts or SUs that 274 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:14,480 are in a group must have minimum 2,000 275 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:17,839 students and being geographically 276 00:12:17,839 --> 00:12:19,600 contiguous. 277 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:21,839 So that's the update thus far. I will 278 00:12:21,839 --> 00:12:23,680 share those at board meetings as they 279 00:12:23,680 --> 00:12:26,079 are given to me and Carrie as she 280 00:12:26,079 --> 00:12:28,320 becomes involved. It's a very aggressive 281 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:30,399 timeline. We have a lot of work to do. 282 00:12:30,399 --> 00:12:32,639 Those of us who go out to 46 remember 283 00:12:32,639 --> 00:12:35,440 how much work it is. Um so hopeful, but 284 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:37,279 we have some really good representation 285 00:12:37,279 --> 00:12:39,760 on those facilitators. And just to 286 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:43,200 continue, I sent a board um memo around 287 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:45,440 5:30 today 288 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:47,920 printed that um email that Sher just 289 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:50,000 read. You should have all received it as 290 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,000 members of the Vermont School Board 291 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,560 Association. Um so you would have 292 00:12:54,560 --> 00:12:57,360 received it maybe 10 days ago I think 293 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:03,040 and um I had volunteered as the chair to be on the initial committee and I 294 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:04,880 will stay with that committee but 295 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:06,560 definitely if there are opportunities 296 00:13:06,560 --> 00:13:08,480 for more board members it's in our best 297 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:11,279 interest to have um as many as they 298 00:13:11,279 --> 00:13:13,920 allow us. So please be thinking about 299 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:17,200 that. It is going to be probably once a 300 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:19,920 month meeting with homework in between. 301 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:23,120 Um it's not going to be easy. I have 302 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:26,880 reached out to a couple of side um 303 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:28,399 districts 304 00:13:28,399 --> 00:13:30,800 uh near us or sus near us who have 305 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:33,040 indicated interest in possibly coming 306 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:35,519 along the board with us. They're not 307 00:13:35,519 --> 00:13:37,120 sure. 308 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:38,880 They feel like they should go to the 309 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:41,279 initial one and see if they feel that's 310 00:13:41,279 --> 00:13:43,680 the right place for them to be. um and 311 00:13:43,680 --> 00:13:45,760 then consider it. And I don't know, it's 312 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:47,920 not very clear what the rules are around 313 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,160 that. I've seen a couple of different 314 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:51,920 approaches to it, saying you have to get 315 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:54,160 it done in like the next 15 days. You 316 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:56,160 have to designate the person. And then 317 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:58,880 I've seen though, you will be able to to 318 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:00,959 jump out. [clears throat] 319 00:14:00,959 --> 00:14:03,040 They clearly said you can't be in two 320 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:06,560 different um merger groups or three 321 00:14:06,560 --> 00:14:08,160 different learning groups, but I don't 322 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:09,760 think they can also bar you from 323 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:12,880 attending. It's a public meeting. So, um 324 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:14,399 I've encouraged the people that have 325 00:14:14,399 --> 00:14:16,639 spoken with me about this that they 326 00:14:16,639 --> 00:14:19,680 should consider going um to do the 327 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:22,079 meetings they want to because it's very 328 00:14:22,079 --> 00:14:23,839 clear in the statute that these are 329 00:14:23,839 --> 00:14:25,519 public meetings and they're open to the 330 00:14:25,519 --> 00:14:29,519 public. So, um think about those things. 331 00:14:29,519 --> 00:14:32,880 We do want to have you know the most 332 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:35,680 people we can have and um once we know 333 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:38,000 what the mechanism is going to be um 334 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:40,399 getting that back out to you all. 335 00:14:40,399 --> 00:14:41,199 >> Yes. 336 00:14:41,199 --> 00:14:43,360 I just this is probably going to be a 337 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:47,040 pretty stupid question, but um um what 338 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:49,279 is the almost likelihood of the whole 339 00:14:49,279 --> 00:14:51,120 geographically 340 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:53,120 continuous staying? Because at least 341 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:54,560 from my experience with talking with 342 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:56,880 other students across the state is just 343 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:58,880 take for example a school like Windsor 344 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:00,959 who's very geographically close. You 345 00:15:00,959 --> 00:15:02,160 would think they would be very similar 346 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:03,920 to us, but at least my experience with 347 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:06,560 student body their school serves has an 348 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:08,000 entirely different set of needs with 349 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:10,399 ours compared to other students I've 350 00:15:10,399 --> 00:15:12,320 talked to across the state where they 351 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:14,320 seem to have a more similar situation 352 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:17,040 with us. What is the likelihood of that 353 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:19,440 changing? Cuz I don't know how well we 354 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:22,320 would mesh with some schools that do not 355 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:25,360 have our same interests, if that makes 356 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:28,480 any sense. Like I would almost be 357 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:30,160 curious about us bucking horns with 358 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:33,199 other districts that do not think the 359 00:15:33,199 --> 00:15:34,880 way and do not have the same goal sets 360 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:36,560 compared to as we will with some 361 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:38,320 districts that are not so geographically 362 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:38,800 connected. 363 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:40,639 >> So remember it's voluntary. So it's 364 00:15:40,639 --> 00:15:43,120 having opening conversations and the 365 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:45,680 reason why it's it's geographically 366 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:48,320 contigious contiguous 367 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:51,040 um is so that you will have one 368 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:53,440 superintendent will be responsible for 369 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:55,920 those students and so there will be 370 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:58,000 services there will be so in order for 371 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,560 that continuity of service right now we 372 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:02,720 already are geographically pretty large 373 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:04,959 it's 30 minutes to Killington it's you 374 00:16:04,959 --> 00:16:07,680 know 25 minutes if you're not going down 375 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:10,720 106 not during fall foliage Um, and so 376 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:13,040 even then that's challenging. So that 377 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:15,360 for one reason to govern that large of 378 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:17,920 an area it it can be challenging. So I 379 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:19,279 think that's why they're trying to keep 380 00:16:19,279 --> 00:16:22,320 it uh close to each other. Um, and 381 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:25,440 remember the statute as written now is 382 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:28,160 voluntary merger 383 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:31,839 >> and the goal is um at least is stated as 384 00:16:31,839 --> 00:16:33,600 that it's to improve the quality of 385 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:35,920 education for all students. It's really 386 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:38,880 not about whether um you like the people 387 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:41,040 you're partnered with. It's it's about 388 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:44,000 everyone improving and you know it's 389 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,160 just it's going to be very difficult. I 390 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:50,160 don't think the timeline is really sad. 391 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:54,639 So Bren just briefly thanks for um 392 00:16:54,639 --> 00:16:58,639 talking to other potentially interested 393 00:16:58,639 --> 00:17:00,560 merger partners who aren't currently in 394 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:06,079 our um group. And I think if if if it's 395 00:17:06,079 --> 00:17:08,799 possible to bring it up as a discussion 396 00:17:08,799 --> 00:17:11,600 point at the first meeting, it does feel 397 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:14,799 like you said, it's not clear how much 398 00:17:14,799 --> 00:17:16,640 flexibility there is going to be or what 399 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:18,720 the timeline is for people being able to 400 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:22,480 switch. But um maybe advocating for, you 401 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:24,559 know, a little bit of a longer window 402 00:17:24,559 --> 00:17:26,959 that folks can sort of even get their 403 00:17:26,959 --> 00:17:28,720 feet wet in the process and realize, you 404 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:30,080 know, what are the stakes and what what 405 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:32,400 do we really want to be looking for? Um 406 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:34,240 and secondly, I just wanted to know I 407 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:36,080 don't think 408 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:37,520 unless I just missed it. I don't think 409 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:40,559 that that um note came out to all of us 410 00:17:40,559 --> 00:17:42,559 as board members. I think maybe just 411 00:17:42,559 --> 00:17:44,960 came to the chair, but curious. 412 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:46,960 >> Well, you all have we have not and thank 413 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:48,720 you for sharing that. 414 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:50,799 >> It's not always clear to me who who gets 415 00:17:50,799 --> 00:17:53,520 what, right? Because it just says dear 416 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:55,440 >> and and the best place to advocate is 417 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:57,919 your representatives and super senators. 418 00:17:57,919 --> 00:17:59,840 They are the only ones who can change 419 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:03,280 that definition through act 170 in terms 420 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:05,760 of extending the timeline. Yes. You know 421 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:09,039 that I've given that messaging to uh the 422 00:18:09,039 --> 00:18:11,200 speaker of the house and others that it 423 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:12,160 is a 424 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:14,640 >> unrealistic. But I think again the more 425 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:16,720 that the community is involved in saying 426 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:18,160 the same thing, 427 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:20,320 >> the more opportunities there are in the 428 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:23,360 spring to make those changes. 429 00:18:23,360 --> 00:18:26,320 left. How many more towns would we have 430 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:28,480 to add to our seven in order to get our 431 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:31,520 student body of of 2,000? [snorts] 432 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:33,840 >> Well, we have close to a thousand now, 433 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:35,600 >> right? So, that's seven towns. So, we 434 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:38,240 might not have to add seven,000 would be 435 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:39,760 Hartford, 436 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:42,559 Mountain Views, and Windsor Southeast. 437 00:18:42,559 --> 00:18:44,559 That's more than 2,000. 438 00:18:44,559 --> 00:18:46,640 >> So, we would qualify if we agreed to 439 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:49,440 merge. What the level of merging is what 440 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:51,760 we have to discuss. Nobody wants to 441 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:54,799 close their schools. Nobody. So you're 442 00:18:54,799 --> 00:18:57,760 not going to get that done overnight. Um 443 00:18:57,760 --> 00:18:59,440 so there's just, you know, that's the 444 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:01,039 biggest barrier in the room and that's 445 00:19:01,039 --> 00:19:04,960 the most costefficient is to close 446 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:07,280 buildings and break. And what they're 447 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:09,919 basic they're saying the ideal is 2,000 448 00:19:09,919 --> 00:19:12,880 and the absolute minimum is 200. So 449 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:13,200 that's 450 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:14,000 >> Oh, okay. Yeah. 451 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,000 >> I thought it was the minimum was 2,000. 452 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:16,640 I was like 453 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:20,080 >> that's the ideal in my reading of 170 454 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:24,160 and that the baseline minimum is 200. 455 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:25,919 >> So that you know and for some school 456 00:19:25,919 --> 00:19:27,840 districts that's a challenge to have 457 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:30,160 200. We are right around a thousand. 458 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:32,320 We'll see. And he promised me the real 459 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:34,240 numbers. I haven't asked him officially 460 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:36,880 quite yet because it's not fair. But um 461 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,679 so somewhere in there and again as long 462 00:19:39,679 --> 00:19:42,080 as we are addressing reason students and 463 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:44,640 we can offer a quality program those are 464 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:46,720 all the other factors involved and the 465 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:48,960 good faith effort is not that we're 466 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:50,880 getting my understanding is not that we 467 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:53,760 get to the magic number 200 is that we 468 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:56,720 are again trying to create a composition 469 00:19:56,720 --> 00:20:01,600 of students and serve students better. 470 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:03,520 Any board members online have a 471 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:07,029 question? 472 00:20:07,039 --> 00:20:07,760 » One in the room. 473 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:08,720 >> Okay, go ahead. 474 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:10,640 >> Um, I think you may have just answered 475 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:13,679 my question. So, is our initial grouping 476 00:20:13,679 --> 00:20:16,720 that we still have a chance to change 477 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:20,640 going to be harder southeast or is our 478 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:23,120 initial grouping based on the the map 479 00:20:23,120 --> 00:20:26,880 that made it out of the boss like 480 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:28,159 voluntary merger map? 481 00:20:28,159 --> 00:20:31,520 >> No, it's not. It's the the R3 um 482 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:34,240 districts and then Pittsfield because 483 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:36,320 they're mostly aligned with less. 484 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:40,080 >> So they have little as well. So 485 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:42,799 >> how those initial groupings 486 00:20:42,799 --> 00:20:44,720 who who set who set those because I 487 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,520 thought the Bose map had us aligned with 488 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,880 towns much uh well beyond just those 489 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:51,840 three 490 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:53,760 >> that those that's specifically for the 491 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:54,880 Boseies. 492 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:58,400 >> Okay. So 170 had two very major efforts. 493 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:01,280 One was creating a Boseies or CISA. 494 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:03,600 We've already done that. So, we're we're 495 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:05,280 lucky. We've got that work done. The 496 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,360 other part of 170 is the voluntary 497 00:21:07,360 --> 00:21:09,200 merger with groupings and that came out 498 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,600 of House Education and House about who 499 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:14,400 are the the towns they grouped. Again, 500 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:17,360 close made sense, you know, and again, 501 00:21:17,360 --> 00:21:19,679 that's why there's the opportunity to 502 00:21:19,679 --> 00:21:22,799 resort at this time. Um, so there are 503 00:21:22,799 --> 00:21:24,799 all different kinds of that's why Dave 504 00:21:24,799 --> 00:21:26,880 said he's already received what 11 505 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:29,039 different choices to move. So that came 506 00:21:29,039 --> 00:21:31,919 out of House Education and was you know 507 00:21:31,919 --> 00:21:36,400 the House Act development 170. So two 508 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:39,600 very separate pieces of 509 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:44,480 >> Yep. I think it mainly came from 510 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:47,120 he was the one who put that geographic 511 00:21:47,120 --> 00:21:49,200 together looking at the districts that 512 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,679 were already working together. Okay. If 513 00:21:51,679 --> 00:21:54,559 we I concur with Kin. If we can't get 514 00:21:54,559 --> 00:21:57,280 the time extended to to sort of uh 515 00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:00,000 modify the groups at all, then then I 516 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,960 guess the next few days are critical if 517 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:04,640 we're trying to attract some other 518 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,200 channels to join our group. And it 519 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:08,559 sounds like maybe you've got some in 520 00:22:08,559 --> 00:22:09,120 mind. 521 00:22:09,120 --> 00:22:12,159 >> I I have spoken with three separate 522 00:22:12,159 --> 00:22:15,039 entities who were interested but were 523 00:22:15,039 --> 00:22:17,679 kind of nervous about how do we even 524 00:22:17,679 --> 00:22:19,440 know it's the right fit for us. So, I 525 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:21,039 think that you'll see some people at 526 00:22:21,039 --> 00:22:23,520 meetings that are just watching to see 527 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:26,559 what's what's happening 528 00:22:26,559 --> 00:22:28,799 because it is a big change. If you're 529 00:22:28,799 --> 00:22:30,799 going to jump out of a district you've 530 00:22:30,799 --> 00:22:33,200 been in for 50 years or something like 531 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:36,710 that. 532 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:39,919 Okay. Anybody else from the board? 533 00:22:39,919 --> 00:22:42,000 All right. Thank you. One more question. 534 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:46,080 Would we try to incorporate Pittsfield 535 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,960 into our school district but beyond 536 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,120 being at our SU as as part of this? 537 00:22:51,120 --> 00:22:53,039 >> We would love to. I've had that direct 538 00:22:53,039 --> 00:22:56,000 conversation. They prefer to retain 539 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:59,039 choice. However, they 98% of their kids 540 00:22:59,039 --> 00:23:01,440 come through our system. 541 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:03,840 >> But there are people who move there from 542 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:05,360 specific schools they want their 543 00:23:05,360 --> 00:23:07,039 children to go to, including Kington 544 00:23:07,039 --> 00:23:09,280 Mountain School. And that's that was 545 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,200 what they said. 546 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,480 I think only three of their however many 547 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,640 come from kids go somewhere other than 548 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,320 here. 549 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,799 So they want to be remain flexible as 550 00:23:20,799 --> 00:23:22,799 Heartland as does weather. They want to 551 00:23:22,799 --> 00:23:29,750 retain their choice ability. 552 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:31,679 » Well, I understand why they want it. 553 00:23:31,679 --> 00:23:32,960 Yeah, because they're not giving it out 554 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:37,360 anymore. Um any other directors who are 555 00:23:37,360 --> 00:23:40,080 here tonight in person or on the Zoom? 556 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,000 Would you like to make any comments 557 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:46,789 about your reports in our board book? 558 00:23:46,799 --> 00:23:48,799 I just say one other thing. I just um 559 00:23:48,799 --> 00:23:50,400 wanted to voice that it has been an 560 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:51,760 incredible start to the school year. 561 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:53,120 Thanks to all of our students and all of 562 00:23:53,120 --> 00:23:56,159 our teachers and everyone um has done 563 00:23:56,159 --> 00:23:57,840 such great work and I just wanted to say 564 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,480 thank you to everybody for great start. 565 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,400 I've had multiple reports from multiple 566 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:05,120 teachers. It's been a great start. 567 00:24:05,120 --> 00:24:07,760 >> All right. And students, do you just add 568 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,320 a quick call out to if you'll see that 569 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:14,159 um from Andy the fishing mitigation um 570 00:24:14,159 --> 00:24:16,799 him and members of his group presented 571 00:24:16,799 --> 00:24:19,360 to the full faculty and staff. This is a 572 00:24:19,360 --> 00:24:20,960 significant 573 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:22,960 uh challenge that we're all facing 574 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,279 daily. Um and I really appreciate the 575 00:24:25,279 --> 00:24:27,039 efforts of his team to really make sure 576 00:24:27,039 --> 00:24:28,960 that it's not happening in our buildings 577 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,200 and that teachers and staff have the 578 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,120 training they need to make the decisions 579 00:24:33,120 --> 00:24:34,720 about the kinds of emails coming 580 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:35,520 through. 581 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,600 Not that everybody, but it's been a 582 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,520 challenge more so than ever. 583 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:43,760 >> I have on that. Um, is there any risk 584 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:45,919 about fishing student accounts? Because 585 00:24:45,919 --> 00:24:47,600 I know the report said that we're 586 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:52,159 specifically only testing adults. 587 00:24:52,159 --> 00:24:56,880 >> Um, the uh 588 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:58,559 student accounts don't seem to have been 589 00:24:58,559 --> 00:24:59,360 an issue. 590 00:24:59,360 --> 00:25:02,640 >> Okay. And um the access that students 591 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:08,320 have to um like login and other sort of 592 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,559 sensitive information um is so much 593 00:25:10,559 --> 00:25:11,360 more. 594 00:25:11,360 --> 00:25:12,960 >> Right. Right. I didn't know if there's 595 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:14,799 any way of somebody like getting in that 596 00:25:14,799 --> 00:25:16,559 back door and getting over Yeah, 597 00:25:16,559 --> 00:25:19,360 >> I did I think only because of the board 598 00:25:19,360 --> 00:25:21,760 get a very weird email from evil twin 599 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,880 Sherry who 600 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:29,360 >> twin Sherry this morning. So I do have a 601 00:25:29,360 --> 00:25:32,159 sister who lives in 602 00:25:32,159 --> 00:25:35,039 but I'm not on there tonight. 603 00:25:35,039 --> 00:25:39,120 >> Well, my my corlary to that is maybe at 604 00:25:39,120 --> 00:25:40,799 some point in the future we should think 605 00:25:40,799 --> 00:25:43,039 about doing one of these simulated 606 00:25:43,039 --> 00:25:45,440 fishing attacks for students as 607 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,000 educational and draining because they're 608 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,080 going to get it when they get jobs. self 609 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,480 here. 610 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,080 >> Yeah, 611 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,080 >> I'd like to say I do have a twin sister 612 00:25:56,080 --> 00:26:04,789 named Sher. [laughter] 613 00:26:04,799 --> 00:26:07,120 So when it's carried Sherry, that's like 614 00:26:07,120 --> 00:26:10,799 this is not new to me 615 00:26:10,799 --> 00:26:13,440 all my life. [laughter] 616 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,080 >> May I make one more comment just on the 617 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,720 fishing piece? So, um, right, just to 618 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:20,080 make sure we're clear on the terms, the 619 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,080 fishing fishing emails are emails that 620 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,320 you get where there it's some bad actor 621 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:30,000 trying to get you to click on a link or um or click on a button that goes to 622 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:31,440 a that'll take you to a website, they'll 623 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,600 ask you for your login credentials for 624 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:35,919 some site and it's not actually like 625 00:26:35,919 --> 00:26:37,360 it'll look like a Google site, it will 626 00:26:37,360 --> 00:26:39,600 look like a Microsoft site and it's not 627 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:41,520 actually one of those sites, right? And 628 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,520 so somebody steals your credentials and 629 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:45,919 then uses those to log into your account 630 00:26:45,919 --> 00:26:48,640 and then send out emails from you or do 631 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,360 other nefarious things um with your with 632 00:26:51,360 --> 00:26:54,799 your accounting information. The um I I 633 00:26:54,799 --> 00:26:56,320 wanted to mention that because thank you 634 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,960 for bringing it up um up Sherry and the 635 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,200 folks on my team have done um a lot of 636 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,000 hard hard work um on that in the last 637 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:05,840 month or two because Vermont has been 638 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:09,003 targeted. Uh all all of the board 639 00:27:09,003 --> 00:27:09,840 [clears throat] members have 640 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,320 Mountainviews.org 641 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:16,559 um email accounts and so you are part of 642 00:27:16,559 --> 00:27:19,840 the fishing um both at you're at risk 643 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,159 right for fishing attacks and you're 644 00:27:22,159 --> 00:27:24,480 included in our fishing simulation 645 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,240 emails. And so some of you have 646 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,720 contacted me already about that to ask 647 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:33,893 about them. Um and uh those are uh um 648 00:27:33,893 --> 00:27:34,960 [clears throat] yes you are 649 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,760 intentionally included in in our fishing 650 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:41,830 uh simulation entry. 651 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,559 » Um can you just remind me how the 652 00:27:44,559 --> 00:27:45,919 students who the youngest students who 653 00:27:45,919 --> 00:27:47,919 have email addresses who are accessing 654 00:27:47,919 --> 00:27:50,159 their email addresses who can be exposed 655 00:27:50,159 --> 00:27:52,559 to these fishing attempts? How old are 656 00:27:52,559 --> 00:27:54,720 they? 657 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:55,520 >> I don't know how 658 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,760 >> what grade are they in? I don't know how 659 00:27:57,760 --> 00:27:59,440 students are who are getting 660 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,399 >> six prosper. 661 00:28:02,399 --> 00:28:04,159 >> Is my question just like at what at what 662 00:28:04,159 --> 00:28:05,679 grade do they get email addresses 663 00:28:05,679 --> 00:28:07,120 >> that they're checking? 664 00:28:07,120 --> 00:28:08,080 >> I don't know. 665 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:09,279 >> We don't know. 666 00:28:09,279 --> 00:28:10,880 >> Well, I don't know. 667 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,120 >> I definitely have one by fifth grade. 668 00:28:13,120 --> 00:28:14,720 >> You have one in fifth grade? 669 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:16,480 >> So I I mean I moved to the school 670 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:20,080 district in fifth grade. 671 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,880 >> It was before that slightly. Yeah. 672 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:24,000 >> Yeah. 673 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:24,880 >> Fifth grade. 674 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:26,960 >> You're right. We don't engage during 675 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,279 public unless it's public comment. 676 00:28:29,279 --> 00:28:29,600 >> No. 677 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,080 >> Okay. Sorry. No, I mean it's okay to ask 678 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:35,200 Andy. Um, 679 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,480 >> so did Andy follow up with Ser and when 680 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,039 student email accounts is she? 681 00:28:41,039 --> 00:28:41,360 >> Yeah. 682 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,120 >> I think as soon as they create a Google 683 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:44,960 account, they probably have have one, 684 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:45,440 but 685 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:45,840 >> Oh, yes. 686 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,399 >> Why don't just get her a good answer? 687 00:28:48,399 --> 00:28:50,720 >> Yeah. 688 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:52,480 And Yeah. Right. We we've talked 689 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,320 about they get Google accounts as soon 690 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:54,559 as 691 00:28:54,559 --> 00:28:56,000 >> we've spoken about it, but I still like 692 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:57,279 don't really understand. 693 00:28:57,279 --> 00:28:58,960 >> Yeah. 694 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,440 I can find out when they start 695 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:02,320 accessing. 696 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:05,279 >> I'd love that. Thank you. 697 00:29:05,279 --> 00:29:07,679 >> All right. Thank you. Um Laya and Logan, 698 00:29:07,679 --> 00:29:09,120 would you like to say a few words? 699 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:13,750 >> Oh, I do. 700 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,799 » All right. Um this is short. So, it's 701 00:29:16,799 --> 00:29:18,559 the start of the new school year. Um 702 00:29:18,559 --> 00:29:19,919 I've been really enjoying the high 703 00:29:19,919 --> 00:29:22,559 morale. Um, there are new plans and 704 00:29:22,559 --> 00:29:24,080 people to implement it into our routine, 705 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:25,520 but I think the transition is going 706 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,520 really well. Uh, the field hockey team 707 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:28,960 has pulled off a couple of really great 708 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:30,880 wins. Theater is off to a great start. 709 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:32,399 Casting is finished. Rehearsals are 710 00:29:32,399 --> 00:29:34,960 underway. Um, some seniors are preparing 711 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:36,640 for early decision applications. The 712 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:38,399 detail I'm including in case you see me 713 00:29:38,399 --> 00:29:39,919 start sobbing hysterically at our next 714 00:29:39,919 --> 00:29:43,279 meeting or in the middle of this one. 715 00:29:43,279 --> 00:29:46,549 >> Thank good. 716 00:29:46,559 --> 00:29:49,039 » Um, just kind of a welcome back. Um, 717 00:29:49,039 --> 00:29:51,120 just wanted to say we had the I'm not 718 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:52,480 sure if any of you guys saw it the other 719 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:53,760 day in the parking lot. We had senior 720 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:55,679 sunrise. It was an amazing experience. 721 00:29:55,679 --> 00:29:57,760 All of us got to get together, say hi to 722 00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:59,679 old friends. It's been great catching up 723 00:29:59,679 --> 00:30:01,360 with our peers. It's been great catching 724 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,120 up with members of the staff. I really 725 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,360 wanted to give a shout out because I 726 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:06,799 know there's some stuff with the new 727 00:30:06,799 --> 00:30:08,320 roll out of this year. Big one was we 728 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:09,679 were all worried about the new lunch 729 00:30:09,679 --> 00:30:11,919 line is going to take forever. But the 730 00:30:11,919 --> 00:30:14,080 staff did an amazing job. They got that 731 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,159 lunch line down in I don't know, four 732 00:30:16,159 --> 00:30:17,440 days. It was insane. 733 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,200 >> Yeah, it was something. Um, fall sports 734 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:20,640 season's underway. I believe our boys 735 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,120 soccer still undefeated. It's They're 736 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:24,240 doing really well this year. 737 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:25,679 >> That was a crazy goal posted on 738 00:30:25,679 --> 00:30:27,039 Instagram. I don't know if you guys 739 00:30:27,039 --> 00:30:28,960 follow boys soccer on Instagram, but it 740 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:30,240 was pretty impressive. 741 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,559 >> Um, and it was just it was been an 742 00:30:32,559 --> 00:30:34,559 amazing start to the year. Could not be 743 00:30:34,559 --> 00:30:35,520 better. 744 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:40,710 >> Great. Thank you. So, 745 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:44,799 » great. From such a better privilege to 746 00:30:44,799 --> 00:30:46,240 >> Yes, we got him today. 747 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,720 >> That's why you're so happy. 748 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,051 I'm filled with joy. 749 00:30:51,051 --> 00:30:51,520 [laughter] 750 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,240 >> I thought so. All right. Uh we're going 751 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,720 to move into the appointments. Uh the 752 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,600 first up is nominations for vice chair. 753 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,399 Um and two people have indicated their 754 00:31:02,399 --> 00:31:05,679 interest. Gina Mallister and Josh Lenton 755 00:31:05,679 --> 00:31:07,279 each said they were interested in that. 756 00:31:07,279 --> 00:31:10,159 So I'm going to open for nominations for 757 00:31:10,159 --> 00:31:12,080 vice chair. 758 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:12,559 Elliot, 759 00:31:12,559 --> 00:31:14,799 >> I'd like to nominate Gene McAllister for 760 00:31:14,799 --> 00:31:17,600 vice chair. Okay. 761 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:22,559 Is there a second? Second. Thank you. Um 762 00:31:22,559 --> 00:31:23,919 All right. Is are there any other 763 00:31:23,919 --> 00:31:27,110 nominations? 764 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:28,000 » Okay. She is she was 765 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,880 >> I was going to Yeah. stepping down for 766 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:32,480 nominations for Danish since she already 767 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,880 has them. Thanks. 768 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,679 >> Are there any other nominations for 769 00:31:37,679 --> 00:31:44,070 anyone else? 770 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:44,799 » All right. 771 00:31:44,799 --> 00:31:46,720 >> Wait, is Josh on? He's on. 772 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:48,960 >> Can he nominate himself? 773 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:50,960 >> He can. I guess that'll go. 774 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:52,320 >> Yeah. I mean, procedurally, he should 775 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,000 know that. Maybe we should make that 776 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,480 possible if it's technically allowed any 777 00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,720 expressed interest. 778 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:00,480 >> I I didn't think it would be appropriate 779 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,080 to nominate yourself. That's why I 780 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:07,909 didn't. 781 00:32:07,919 --> 00:32:10,399 » I have no idea on that question. Cannot 782 00:32:10,399 --> 00:32:11,679 answer that. I think you could. 783 00:32:11,679 --> 00:32:13,440 >> I think Well, go ahead. If Josh, if 784 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:14,880 you'd like to nominate yourself, go 785 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:18,070 ahead. 786 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,799 » I'll nominate myself since I showed 787 00:32:20,799 --> 00:32:22,399 interest. 788 00:32:22,399 --> 00:32:24,080 >> We don't know the rule. I'm happy to to 789 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,720 nominate Joshua just so we can get a 790 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:27,600 vote. 791 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:28,720 >> Is there a second? 792 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,760 >> Oh, second. Thank you, Lara. All right. 793 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:35,200 Um, I think it would be very helpful if 794 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,159 uh everyone is putting their voice on 795 00:32:38,159 --> 00:32:41,039 because I have to do a roll call to view 796 00:32:41,039 --> 00:32:44,960 this. So, first I'm going to um so 797 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,840 unmute yourselves, please. Um if you're 798 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:49,919 a board member, is there 799 00:32:49,919 --> 00:32:52,240 >> is it we have discuss is it possible for 800 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,120 the two nomination nominees to say a few 801 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:56,480 words if they'd like. 802 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,320 >> Sure. 803 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,440 Uh Gina, why don't you go first? Well, 804 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,600 first of all, you know, I'm honored to 805 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:07,919 be considered for this. Um, I have a 806 00:33:07,919 --> 00:33:11,760 couple of of of reasons for wanting to 807 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:16,080 do this because it doves so well 808 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,240 alongside the work that I'm doing as 809 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,720 communications chair. Gives me a little 810 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:22,880 bit more visibility as to what's going 811 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:26,240 on across the board and allows me to 812 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,720 pull things together. 813 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:30,880 Also, I'm already chairing the 814 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,760 superintendent search committee in 815 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:35,760 addition to being a representative for 816 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,399 reading with a great small elementary 817 00:33:38,399 --> 00:33:40,880 school. So, the scope of what I'm 818 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,919 already doing now seem to fit 819 00:33:43,919 --> 00:33:48,480 uh the role. Uh and so I I love to play 820 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,679 that a little. 821 00:33:51,679 --> 00:33:54,950 Josh, 822 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,039 » I feel like I would fit this position 823 00:33:57,039 --> 00:33:59,200 well because I'm involved in community 824 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,760 and multi levels. I have involved in the 825 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:03,840 school as far as being a coach for 826 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,640 middle school football and I've been on 827 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:10,639 this board for now seven years between 828 00:34:10,639 --> 00:34:18,710 the two terms. 829 00:34:18,720 --> 00:34:19,280 Okay, 830 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:19,679 >> great. 831 00:34:19,679 --> 00:34:23,119 >> You can put your mics on. Um, 832 00:34:23,119 --> 00:34:25,599 all those in favor of electing Gina 833 00:34:25,599 --> 00:34:27,599 Mallister as the vice chair, would you 834 00:34:27,599 --> 00:34:31,599 please uh say your name and yes or no? 835 00:34:31,599 --> 00:34:33,520 Uh, you only have to say your name if 836 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,480 you're voting yes. 837 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:37,760 I'll just go right around the room here 838 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,480 and then I'll go to the Zoom. All those 839 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,280 in favor of electing Gina, please say 840 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:43,919 yes. 841 00:34:43,919 --> 00:34:45,679 >> Yes. 842 00:34:45,679 --> 00:34:48,800 So, one, two, three, 843 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:52,320 four, five, six. Karina, I can't see. 844 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,240 Okay. [clears throat] 845 00:34:54,240 --> 00:34:56,079 All right. All those in favor of 846 00:34:56,079 --> 00:34:59,440 electing uh Josh. 847 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,320 Uh oh, sorry, Gina from the screen. 848 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,000 Anna, 849 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,119 yes. Heather, yes. Bob, yes. 850 00:35:07,119 --> 00:35:08,160 >> Hi. 851 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,000 >> All right. It appears that Gina has been 852 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,200 elected as the vice chair. and thank you 853 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,599 both for being willing to to do this 854 00:35:15,599 --> 00:35:17,839 job. Um, I appreciate that women's 855 00:35:17,839 --> 00:35:20,560 interest. Um, and so I'm going to call 856 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:25,200 it for Gina. Thank you, uh, board. 857 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:28,400 Um, all right. Our next order of 858 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,680 business is to select a newly stocked 859 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,240 school board rep. Uh, the select board 860 00:35:34,240 --> 00:35:37,119 received two letters of interest. Claire 861 00:35:37,119 --> 00:35:40,880 Bernard who is here tonight over here um 862 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:47,200 was selected by this board to be um that was their recommendation. Um 863 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,040 unfortunately the other candidate was 864 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:50,880 not able to give a statement at the 865 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,119 board meeting although I sent out both 866 00:35:53,119 --> 00:35:57,200 letters to the board. Um and so um I'd 867 00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:02,079 like to uh again ask for um a vote to u 868 00:36:02,079 --> 00:36:05,359 have claim 869 00:36:05,359 --> 00:36:07,599 the group and after the election cla 870 00:36:07,599 --> 00:36:10,880 I'll ask you to say a few words. 871 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,839 All those in favor of electing claire 872 00:36:13,839 --> 00:36:15,680 please say yes and we'll put out your 873 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,400 zoom hand. 874 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:23,109 >> Yes. 875 00:36:23,119 --> 00:36:25,760 Uh let's see that I think we have enough 876 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,480 to call it for Claire. Thank you very 877 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,880 much everybody for this and thank you 878 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:34,560 Claire before we will into our circle of 879 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:36,079 friends. 880 00:36:36,079 --> 00:36:38,240 So would you say a few things about your 881 00:36:38,240 --> 00:36:39,599 interests? 882 00:36:39,599 --> 00:36:41,520 >> Sure. Um I'm Claire Bernard. I've lived 883 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:43,680 in Woodstock for three years. Um I've 884 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:45,839 got a six, seven, and eight-year-old. 885 00:36:45,839 --> 00:36:47,520 So, aside from the questionable 886 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,880 parenting lineup choices there, uh, we 887 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:52,640 have a vested interest in the success of 888 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,520 this district and I'm really excited to 889 00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:57,680 try to help. So, nice to look forward to 890 00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,599 meeting you all working together. 891 00:36:59,599 --> 00:37:00,640 >> Welcome. 892 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:02,800 >> So, Claire can sit on the sidelines, but 893 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:04,960 she has to be sworn in by the town clerk 894 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:06,960 to officially participate, but Claire, 895 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,280 feel free to raise your hand if you have 896 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,960 something you want to ask her um sent. 897 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,520 And if if and maybe somebody over there 898 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,359 can tell me they're perfectly perfect 899 00:37:17,359 --> 00:37:18,720 against us because they can't see them 900 00:37:18,720 --> 00:37:19,920 very well. 901 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:23,119 >> All right. Well, thank you both. Um 902 00:37:23,119 --> 00:37:27,599 uh at this time we're going to have a um 903 00:37:27,599 --> 00:37:29,599 a request for quotes for an energy 904 00:37:29,599 --> 00:37:32,400 performance contrast on the new bill. I 905 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,920 believe both Matt and Mary are to 906 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:39,200 present that or Mary is presenting that. 907 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:40,960 I think I was presenting this and then 908 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,359 we were presenting together. Great. Uh 909 00:37:43,359 --> 00:37:46,880 together we're presenting the um budget 910 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:50,880 items during the finance update. So 911 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:52,079 >> um 912 00:37:52,079 --> 00:37:54,720 >> one of the things that the new bill uh 913 00:37:54,720 --> 00:37:57,760 committee has been working on uh as you 914 00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:01,520 all know is to bring private money 915 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:05,440 uh to match what the bond voters have 916 00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:11,200 approved. that was a contingency on our bond and some of that has been 917 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:16,079 filthropic. Um but one of the other ways 918 00:38:16,079 --> 00:38:18,240 that we can meet that uh that 919 00:38:18,240 --> 00:38:21,520 requirement is to raise uh federal 920 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:24,240 grants uh or state grants. Any really 921 00:38:24,240 --> 00:38:26,720 any money that we can bring uh it's not 922 00:38:26,720 --> 00:38:29,200 just coming from the voters. And an 923 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,520 interesting uh opportunity has come to 924 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:35,599 us and and that is to apply for uh the 925 00:38:35,599 --> 00:38:39,680 federal energy tax credit for geothermal 926 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,240 heating and cooling systems. And and for 927 00:38:42,240 --> 00:38:43,440 those of you who've been involved in the 928 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:45,119 new school build or on the board long 929 00:38:45,119 --> 00:38:47,839 enough to have seen some of the designs, 930 00:38:47,839 --> 00:38:49,200 uh we looked at a number of different 931 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:53,119 options with our architect and with our builders. 932 00:38:53,119 --> 00:38:54,960 And we ended up going with something 933 00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,119 kind of in the the middle that would 934 00:38:57,119 --> 00:39:01,040 have some some geotechnical wells uh 935 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:02,880 that would contribute to a geothermal 936 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:04,880 system, but we didn't go for like an 937 00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,359 entire uh electric building that would 938 00:39:07,359 --> 00:39:09,760 have even more wells. And one of the 939 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:11,359 things we did in our due diligence and 940 00:39:11,359 --> 00:39:12,800 working with our engineers and 941 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:17,280 architects was put a test well uh here 942 00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:20,320 on the property um that showed you know 943 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,960 adequate um results to to have a 944 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,760 geothermal system. So long long story 945 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:29,839 short, um one of the concepts is to 946 00:39:29,839 --> 00:39:33,119 potentially find other ways to save cost 947 00:39:33,119 --> 00:39:36,000 in our new building design so that we 948 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,800 could go back potentially to the larger 949 00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:42,320 geothermal system. And if like for 950 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,000 example 951 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:48,160 um if the the tax credit is up to 40% 952 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:51,200 uh of the upfront capital cost of your 953 00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,839 geothermal system and that geothermal 954 00:39:53,839 --> 00:39:56,720 system extends to a lot of the HVAC as 955 00:39:56,720 --> 00:39:59,119 well. It's not just the geothermal 956 00:39:59,119 --> 00:40:01,760 system. Uh so it could actually end up 957 00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:03,599 being a pretty big number like of our 958 00:40:03,599 --> 00:40:07,119 say if our school is $115 million total 959 00:40:07,119 --> 00:40:10,160 uh that energy system in total could end 960 00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:13,920 up being as much as 20 $30 million and 961 00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,560 you can get a 40% credit. So now you're 962 00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:20,560 looking at 8 to uh did I say 30 to 40 963 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:23,440 million? So yeah, you're looking at um 964 00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,800 12 to$16 million in a federal grant. and 965 00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,599 that that if that counts toward the 966 00:40:29,599 --> 00:40:31,680 well, it would count toward the private 967 00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:36,000 fundraising requirement uh to to meet um 968 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:39,280 the needs of our bond vote. So, it seems 969 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:41,680 like a very good idea to re-evaluate 970 00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:44,640 that. But there is a state law that 971 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:47,520 before we can have any contractor 972 00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:51,040 uh put a bid together on any any type of 973 00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,680 proposal that would come up with say new 974 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,640 designs or new cost. uh we have to do an 975 00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:59,680 RFQ which is a request for uh for 976 00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:01,920 quotes. It might actually be technically 977 00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,800 a request for qualifications. It is and 978 00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,119 um so we would like the board to vote 979 00:41:07,119 --> 00:41:09,359 tonight. Uh this just kicks off the 980 00:41:09,359 --> 00:41:11,280 process and then we'll have to identify 981 00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,440 qualified biders. They'll have to make 982 00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,000 proposals. We would uh bring back to the 983 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:20,640 board uh potential selection of of a of 984 00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:25,839 a qualified bidder. So with that um I 985 00:41:25,839 --> 00:41:29,910 think I can make the motion 986 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,640 and we have it in the 987 00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:34,640 >> Yeah. So I hereby move that the 988 00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:36,400 superintendent's office prepare and 989 00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,240 publish requests for proposals for the 990 00:41:38,240 --> 00:41:40,079 purpose of seeking vendors to quote for 991 00:41:40,079 --> 00:41:42,079 an energy performance contract on the 992 00:41:42,079 --> 00:41:43,440 new bill. 993 00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:46,400 >> Second. 994 00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:48,000 >> Any discussion? 995 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:52,720 >> Uh good question about it. Um just to 996 00:41:52,720 --> 00:41:57,440 clarify, um would the 997 00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:59,440 uh 998 00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:03,680 moving forward with a 999 00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:05,760 does this assume moving forward with a 1000 00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:09,440 more robust um 1001 00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:13,760 uh geothermal system than is 1002 00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:17,119 incorporated in the current plan that 1003 00:42:17,119 --> 00:42:19,839 was the 115 or 1004 00:42:19,839 --> 00:42:21,839 >> it doesn't matter. have to, but it 1005 00:42:21,839 --> 00:42:23,440 could. Um, 1006 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,640 >> so it would be a balance of like finding 1007 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:28,319 other cost savings in the building 1008 00:42:28,319 --> 00:42:29,119 design, 1009 00:42:29,119 --> 00:42:29,520 >> right? 1010 00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:32,480 >> Um maybe choices of 1011 00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:36,800 uh windows or surfaces or like because 1012 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:38,480 if you just increase the cost of the 1013 00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:40,160 energy system, you're you're going to 1014 00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,240 increase the cost of the total building. 1015 00:42:42,240 --> 00:42:43,920 So we have to balance like keeping the 1016 00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,160 cost of a building at at a level we 1017 00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:49,839 could still achieve. Um but potentially 1018 00:42:49,839 --> 00:42:53,440 uh having uh a more I think 1019 00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:55,599 environmentally sustainable and e 1020 00:42:55,599 --> 00:42:58,400 economically uh cost-effective system 1021 00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,400 that also has the bonus of bringing in 1022 00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:01,839 this federal line. 1023 00:43:01,839 --> 00:43:04,400 >> Okay. So this action doesn't doesn't 1024 00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:10,160 come at us to one particular design or scale of system. It's sort of 1025 00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:11,119 exploring 1026 00:43:11,119 --> 00:43:13,440 >> right. No, we could I mean we could say 1027 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:15,520 no to all the proposals and we could 1028 00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:17,599 stick with the existing architect 1029 00:43:17,599 --> 00:43:19,599 design, the existing engineering and the 1030 00:43:19,599 --> 00:43:22,319 existing bolts we got from PC 1031 00:43:22,319 --> 00:43:25,760 construction. Or we could say we like 1032 00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,800 what this these firms are proposing 1033 00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,119 and we could break up contract in such a 1034 00:43:31,119 --> 00:43:33,599 way where we'd have PC construction in 1035 00:43:33,599 --> 00:43:35,680 our initial architect like say do the 1036 00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:37,599 building but this group would have a 1037 00:43:37,599 --> 00:43:39,599 separate contract for the geothermal and 1038 00:43:39,599 --> 00:43:42,800 HVAC and if they have their that 1039 00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,280 individual contract then holds all the 1040 00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,599 cost and assets that can qualify as 1041 00:43:47,599 --> 00:43:50,800 eligible investment for the tax credit. 1042 00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:53,040 So, it's it's a good it's a it's a good 1043 00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,839 idea. Um, 1044 00:43:55,839 --> 00:43:58,160 it kind of gets us looking at the new 1045 00:43:58,160 --> 00:43:59,920 school build designs again, which we 1046 00:43:59,920 --> 00:44:02,880 haven't done in a little while. 1047 00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:04,400 >> So, any other questions? 1048 00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:05,920 >> Is there a time when this grant's going 1049 00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,000 to go away or threaten to go away? 1050 00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,880 >> So, just so happens the uh federal 1051 00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,680 government, I won't name names, really 1052 00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,160 likes drilling technology. 1053 00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:21,520 Uh and so geothermal got um got was kept 1054 00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:24,400 in the one big beautiful bill. 1055 00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:27,520 >> Solar tax credits were were sunset my 1056 00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:30,560 business um if we didn't start and start 1057 00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:33,359 226 of July 4th. But geothermal battery 1058 00:44:33,359 --> 00:44:36,480 storage uh did very very well and I 1059 00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:39,359 believe that tax credit for them is is 1060 00:44:39,359 --> 00:44:42,560 guaranteed 2034 I think is the the date. 1061 00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,200 But 1062 00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:46,640 >> and then Anna 1063 00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:48,400 >> I just have a terminology question. I'm 1064 00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:51,119 confused by the term tax credit. Do we 1065 00:44:51,119 --> 00:44:54,000 pay federal taxes? 1066 00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:57,680 >> No. So yeah. So what ends up happening 1067 00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:03,040 is um this the biders in this particular 1068 00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:04,640 RFQ 1069 00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:08,880 will essentially um take that credit and 1070 00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:11,119 then sell it to a tax equity investor to 1071 00:45:11,119 --> 00:45:13,599 bring in actual cash. That that's my 1072 00:45:13,599 --> 00:45:15,839 understanding of the structure. So we 1073 00:45:15,839 --> 00:45:17,680 can't offset our tax liability because 1074 00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:18,720 we're a nonprofit, 1075 00:45:18,720 --> 00:45:20,640 >> right? But with the energy performance 1076 00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:24,319 contract, uh, they can monetize it. 1077 00:45:24,319 --> 00:45:24,880 >> Okay. 1078 00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:27,520 >> And use it to offset the upfront cost of 1079 00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:28,400 the building. 1080 00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:28,800 >> Okay. 1081 00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,119 >> Um, so 1082 00:45:31,119 --> 00:45:32,720 >> so we don't pay them in dollars, we pay 1083 00:45:32,720 --> 00:45:35,280 them in tax credits and then they build 1084 00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:38,480 this thing for us. 1085 00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:43,760 So we still have to come up with the the 1086 00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:47,119 money to build the building. But if they 1087 00:45:47,119 --> 00:45:49,200 can find a financing partner who you 1088 00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:51,200 know is going to guarantee buy the 1089 00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:52,560 credit 1090 00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:54,640 >> um then a bank would essentially lend us 1091 00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:56,960 the money knowing that we're going to 1092 00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,520 get tax credit. 1093 00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:03,359 >> So in the end it offsets upfront cost. 1094 00:46:03,359 --> 00:46:05,520 >> Okay. 1095 00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:11,190 I'm glad you know this. 1096 00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:12,480 » I [clears throat] have I have two 1097 00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:14,800 questions. The rebuild plan as it stands 1098 00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:16,640 currently, does that qualify for any 1099 00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:18,560 federal tax dollars under the geothermal 1100 00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:19,760 bill? 1101 00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:22,160 >> Actually, yes, it it would. Yeah, we 1102 00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:24,480 just would have to structure it the 1103 00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:26,800 right way to go after the tax credit. 1104 00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:28,720 But yes, because we have some geothermal 1105 00:46:28,720 --> 00:46:32,240 in the existing bill, uh it it should be 1106 00:46:32,240 --> 00:46:34,319 eligible for the tax credit. But then, 1107 00:46:34,319 --> 00:46:38,319 you know, you might need um one of these 1108 00:46:38,319 --> 00:46:40,319 companies. They're in the business of 1109 00:46:40,319 --> 00:46:43,119 structuring it to to get the cash 1110 00:46:43,119 --> 00:46:46,079 instead of the credit to work with us. 1111 00:46:46,079 --> 00:46:48,079 >> Received. And uh it sounds like maybe 1112 00:46:48,079 --> 00:46:49,920 we're going to explore uh building out 1113 00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:51,839 how much geothermal we rely on for the 1114 00:46:51,839 --> 00:46:54,319 new build just to see where where that 1115 00:46:54,319 --> 00:46:57,280 gets us with the the federal grant. 1116 00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:58,640 >> Yes, that would that's what their 1117 00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:00,560 proposals will include is like how would 1118 00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:03,200 they design a geothermal system? 1119 00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:05,200 received. And uh my last question is 1120 00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:08,079 previously when we've applied for grants 1121 00:47:08,079 --> 00:47:10,160 um and uh I think previously it's been 1122 00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:13,599 RFPs, but do we are we required to 1123 00:47:13,599 --> 00:47:15,920 accept the lowest bidder as we have 1124 00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,560 before? 1125 00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:21,280 >> I believe so on RFQS. I don't have that 1126 00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,280 statute in front of me. 1127 00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:25,280 >> Okay, that was more procedural. Awesome. 1128 00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:27,599 Thanks y'all. 1129 00:47:27,599 --> 00:47:28,800 >> Did you have a question? 1130 00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,599 >> Yeah, I'm just curious. Um, I mean this 1131 00:47:31,599 --> 00:47:33,280 sounds this sounds really very 1132 00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,119 promising. So I'm just like I'm just 1133 00:47:35,119 --> 00:47:37,200 wondering if there's 1134 00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:40,000 any if there's a flip side at all like 1135 00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:42,079 is there is are we thinking like how how 1136 00:47:42,079 --> 00:47:44,480 likely are we thinking that this is to 1137 00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:46,480 be successful and in order to be 1138 00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:48,160 successful like roughly what would would 1139 00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:50,560 be the timing of us in understanding 1140 00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:52,400 knowing that 1141 00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:55,599 >> so is there like is there downside? So, 1142 00:47:55,599 --> 00:47:57,119 one thing I'll mention is that the 1143 00:47:57,119 --> 00:48:01,119 technology is is proven. Um, it's been 1144 00:48:01,119 --> 00:48:04,560 around for for a long time. It's used 1145 00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:08,960 very often. Um, in commercial buildings, 1146 00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:12,000 like like schools, that's often one of 1147 00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:15,359 the places you'll see it. U, it's I 1148 00:48:15,359 --> 00:48:17,520 believe that Burlington High School put 1149 00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:19,760 it in and one of the companies that 1150 00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:22,800 we're talking to uh designed and built 1151 00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:24,640 that system. So from a technology risk 1152 00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:26,720 perspective, no I we're not like signing 1153 00:48:26,720 --> 00:48:29,599 up for something that's like super uh 1154 00:48:29,599 --> 00:48:33,520 experimental. Um I think the thing that 1155 00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:36,079 people should understand is that the 1156 00:48:36,079 --> 00:48:38,960 bigger and more costly this system gets, 1157 00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,760 yes, you get a proportionate tax credit, 1158 00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:43,280 but you have to be careful because you 1159 00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:46,000 could just be adding a price tag to the 1160 00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:47,520 cost of your total building. 1161 00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:50,400 >> Yeah. So there was like I said there's 1162 00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:53,040 going to be a balance when you know we 1163 00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:54,880 don't want something that just makes it 1164 00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:58,880 un unpenable for the current bond right 1165 00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:01,200 the current bond we had passed is is was 1166 00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:03,599 based on an earlier design 1167 00:49:03,599 --> 00:49:05,839 >> and just eyes wide open making sure 1168 00:49:05,839 --> 00:49:07,359 we've had the attorney involved since 1169 00:49:07,359 --> 00:49:09,520 the beginning having met with his deep 1170 00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:12,160 experience so there have been six or 1171 00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:13,520 seven of us who have been meeting with 1172 00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:16,000 this one potential candidate and so we 1173 00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:17,680 just want to be very it's exciting 1174 00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:19,440 Especially for those of us who've been 1175 00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:21,839 doing this for 15 years to think this 1176 00:49:21,839 --> 00:49:23,520 might be the path forward but we have to 1177 00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:26,400 be so careful and not get too excited 1178 00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:28,960 but it could be an the timeline is 1179 00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,359 interesting. We are Mary's put getting 1180 00:49:31,359 --> 00:49:33,280 putting together a folder which has all 1181 00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:36,160 the reports and design and all the 1182 00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:38,559 everything that we've done. So as people 1183 00:49:38,559 --> 00:49:40,880 create uh complete the RFQ they're 1184 00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:42,480 already beginning to formulate their 1185 00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:43,760 thoughts about what are the 1186 00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:45,440 opportunities. there are very few 1187 00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:47,760 companies in this area that does do this 1188 00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:50,559 kind of work. Um and so the hope is that 1189 00:49:50,559 --> 00:49:52,480 it can be augmented because they will 1190 00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:54,240 have access to the resources and begin 1191 00:49:54,240 --> 00:49:56,480 thinking about it. Um but the timeline 1192 00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:58,559 itself and I don't have the days yet. Um 1193 00:49:58,559 --> 00:49:59,920 again this has been happening pretty 1194 00:49:59,920 --> 00:50:01,599 quickly but we have to go through the 1195 00:50:01,599 --> 00:50:04,800 stats of RF before we can even begin to 1196 00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:09,200 have serious conversations with anyone. 1197 00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:10,400 It's great. 1198 00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:11,839 >> Um [clears throat] 1199 00:50:11,839 --> 00:50:13,280 I think it's interesting that the big 1200 00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:15,200 beautiful bill could be helpful. The 1201 00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:18,319 last I heard about geothermal um in 1202 00:50:18,319 --> 00:50:20,079 terms of this campaign and this rebuild 1203 00:50:20,079 --> 00:50:22,000 was that we were like fixing it because 1204 00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,000 of the cost and that was one of the ways 1205 00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:26,400 that Seth was like we were shaving cost. 1206 00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:28,160 So now this is this new thing has come 1207 00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:30,160 up where there's possible federal money 1208 00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:32,400 if we put it back in. 1209 00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:33,839 >> Yeah. I don't think we completely 1210 00:50:33,839 --> 00:50:34,880 eliminated it 1211 00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:37,359 >> cuz it was like an extra $10 million 1212 00:50:37,359 --> 00:50:39,680 >> I think to go full geothermal and be 1213 00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:41,680 100% electric building and not need 1214 00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:45,200 backup propane. I think that was um not 1215 00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:47,200 chosen in our final design. But I think 1216 00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:49,119 we still have a design that included 1217 00:50:49,119 --> 00:50:51,839 some just didn't cover our entire energy 1218 00:50:51,839 --> 00:50:52,240 load. 1219 00:50:52,240 --> 00:50:53,440 >> And so now we're hearing that there 1220 00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:55,040 could be federal money if we include 1221 00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:55,599 that. 1222 00:50:55,599 --> 00:50:56,880 >> Well, the federal you can get the 1223 00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:59,520 federal money regardless. But now that 1224 00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:02,480 we're more aware of the because that tax 1225 00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:04,960 credit was extended and is and has 1226 00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:06,240 actually been increased as part of the 1227 00:51:06,240 --> 00:51:08,880 big beautiful building. Now you you 1228 00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,200 you're incentivized to potentially do a 1229 00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:13,520 bigger system like this the system we 1230 00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:15,119 initially had in mind that would cover 1231 00:51:15,119 --> 00:51:18,480 our entire energy load 1232 00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:21,359 >> with the midterms coming up and I think 1233 00:51:21,359 --> 00:51:22,800 most people are predicting that it's 1234 00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,359 going to lean blue. Is that like is that 1235 00:51:25,359 --> 00:51:27,920 going to change this? 1236 00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:31,520 >> Um so the big beautiful bill that could 1237 00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:33,599 be changed politically amended or 1238 00:51:33,599 --> 00:51:35,839 whatever a new law could come out but 1239 00:51:35,839 --> 00:51:37,520 since both parties support this the 1240 00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:39,200 geothermal tax credit it's awesome 1241 00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:41,520 >> pretty safe. Cool. 1242 00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:43,599 >> Great question and yes 1243 00:51:43,599 --> 00:51:45,359 >> actually one other question. So you said 1244 00:51:45,359 --> 00:51:48,160 that we you need to identify some cost 1245 00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:49,839 savings in the current build to kind of 1246 00:51:49,839 --> 00:51:52,559 offset this. um you've listed kind of 1247 00:51:52,559 --> 00:51:56,480 windows, things like that. And I'm um I 1248 00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:59,359 guess I was under the impression that 1249 00:51:59,359 --> 00:52:02,720 the current build I mean they was you 1250 00:52:02,720 --> 00:52:04,800 know really paired down from you know 1251 00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:06,400 the first vote to get to where we are 1252 00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:10,880 now. Um I'm just curious 1253 00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:12,559 like how are there still things we can 1254 00:52:12,559 --> 00:52:14,720 make cheaper? I'm I'm I'm I'm just 1255 00:52:14,720 --> 00:52:16,000 surprised to hear that there there's 1256 00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:18,640 other switches we could make because I I 1257 00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:19,599 would have thought we would have 1258 00:52:19,599 --> 00:52:21,040 previously made them. 1259 00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:24,240 >> Yeah. Their their jobs won't be easy. We 1260 00:52:24,240 --> 00:52:27,599 already hired our firms earlier PC 1261 00:52:27,599 --> 00:52:29,760 construction group and 1262 00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:32,720 >> um our architect to do the val what we 1263 00:52:32,720 --> 00:52:34,559 call the value engineering. Yeah. So 1264 00:52:34,559 --> 00:52:36,000 they went through and they scrubbed 1265 00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:37,760 their initial post proposal and they 1266 00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:39,280 came back with all the line items where 1267 00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:40,960 they could take cost out. They called it 1268 00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:44,000 value engineering. So yes, I agree. 1269 00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:45,520 These companies that want to do 1270 00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:47,520 potentially bigger geothermal for us are 1271 00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:49,839 going to have a very difficult time 1272 00:52:49,839 --> 00:52:51,359 trying to do value engineering when 1273 00:52:51,359 --> 00:52:53,599 we've already done it twice. 1274 00:52:53,599 --> 00:52:54,720 >> Like 1275 00:52:54,720 --> 00:52:56,319 >> it's going to be hard. 1276 00:52:56,319 --> 00:52:59,520 >> Oh, why not? 1277 00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:01,520 If we can again make it, you know, be 1278 00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:03,680 responsive to our taxpayers and like 1279 00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:05,280 there's something we had new set of 1280 00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:07,040 eyes, new set of ideas. I know there 1281 00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:09,599 were members of the new bill group that 1282 00:53:09,599 --> 00:53:12,400 one person who's an architect had really 1283 00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:14,480 scrutinized but again having someone 1284 00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:17,359 else look at it and that's the work they 1285 00:53:17,359 --> 00:53:19,280 typically do is to take someone else's 1286 00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:20,640 design and say here's another 1287 00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:23,680 opportunity but every million we take 1288 00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:26,079 off you know it's a savings so we're 1289 00:53:26,079 --> 00:53:27,920 really trying everything 1290 00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:29,440 >> yeah and we might just be getting their 1291 00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:32,000 view of the cost which is like a second 1292 00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:32,880 opinion 1293 00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:35,599 >> so they might think the geothermal that 1294 00:53:35,599 --> 00:53:37,920 we designed and it doesn't cost as much 1295 00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:39,760 or maybe they think it costs more. So, 1296 00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:41,760 we're going to be getting a second set 1297 00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:45,920 of opinions on costs. 1298 00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:49,359 >> Are we ready to vote? 1299 00:53:49,359 --> 00:53:51,520 >> All right. All those in favor of moving 1300 00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:55,760 forward on the RFQ, please say I or 1301 00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:57,599 raise your Zoom hand. 1302 00:53:57,599 --> 00:53:59,839 >> I 1303 00:53:59,839 --> 00:54:05,190 >> Are there any opposed? 1304 00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:06,960 any abstaining 1305 00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:11,910 >> I because I came in late 1306 00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:16,240 I think it was yes so um okay then it 1307 00:54:16,240 --> 00:54:18,160 has passed and thank you all thanks to 1308 00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:21,839 the work that's being done by Abby Lers 1309 00:54:21,839 --> 00:54:23,680 Mary 1310 00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:31,589 and Seth Sherry um I mostly listen 1311 00:54:31,599 --> 00:54:33,119 um the next thing is Sher's going to 1312 00:54:33,119 --> 00:54:36,000 talk a little bit about the VSBA BA VSA 1313 00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:38,559 annual conference. 1314 00:54:38,559 --> 00:54:40,480 >> So there's a conference coming up that's 1315 00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:42,160 sponsored by the superintendent 1316 00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:43,920 association and the school board 1317 00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:47,920 association on October 29th and 30th. Um 1318 00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:50,000 Carrie and I and I think some others 1319 00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:51,280 will be attending. It's a great 1320 00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:53,599 opportunity to meet with other school 1321 00:54:53,599 --> 00:54:55,040 boards. Carrie and I have gone a number 1322 00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:58,240 of times. Um yes today I was asked to be 1323 00:54:58,240 --> 00:55:00,960 on our panel around innovation on the 1324 00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:03,200 29th around change. So, it's an 1325 00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:05,599 opportunity again to develop some of 1326 00:55:05,599 --> 00:55:07,760 those skill sets. Uh, we're a highly 1327 00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:09,680 functioning school board. I'm proud to 1328 00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:11,599 work with. There's always place to grow 1329 00:55:11,599 --> 00:55:13,359 and I think opportunities to learn new 1330 00:55:13,359 --> 00:55:16,000 perspectives. So, um, Carrie has that 1331 00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:18,480 information. Is it linked here? 1332 00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:20,960 >> Um, I think it is linked there. Yes, I 1333 00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:23,200 asked asked that be linked. So, you can 1334 00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:27,030 take a look at that. 1335 00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:31,599 The second day probably would be um more 1336 00:55:31,599 --> 00:55:34,160 interesting than the first day. Um for 1337 00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:36,800 me as the chair, I get my training hours 1338 00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:38,960 that I'm expected to do every year and 1339 00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:41,040 mostly I get can get it through this. 1340 00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:43,200 It's it's never boring. It's always 1341 00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:45,440 interesting and but it is up in 1342 00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:47,520 Burlington. So it's sometimes it's at 1343 00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:49,920 late morning. So if you're interested, 1344 00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:52,559 you can sign up. Um 1345 00:55:52,559 --> 00:55:54,240 uh I don't know what the cost is. there 1346 00:55:54,240 --> 00:55:57,040 is a cost but it's not terrible. 1347 00:55:57,040 --> 00:56:00,880 >> So um please uh please do that because 1348 00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:05,920 it's a timely um topic. Last year was 1349 00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:07,920 not something we went to was about the 1350 00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:10,480 govern a governance thing they wanted 1351 00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:13,200 everyone to do but we elected not to do 1352 00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:15,359 that. So and with all that's happening 1353 00:56:15,359 --> 00:56:19,359 with merging CISAs act 70 it's an 1354 00:56:19,359 --> 00:56:21,040 important part to school board 1355 00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:23,200 association. 1356 00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:26,400 All right. Thank you. Um strategic plan 1357 00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:27,920 um goals update, Sher. 1358 00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:29,760 >> Yes. So you have a link to the goals 1359 00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:31,920 that were identified with uh the 1360 00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:35,359 principles and directors. Um we are 1361 00:56:35,359 --> 00:56:38,880 three years into our strategic plan. We 1362 00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:41,119 every um of the goals that were 1363 00:56:41,119 --> 00:56:42,960 identified in the last strategic plan, 1364 00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:45,920 we have made initial attempts on the 1365 00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:48,799 work and all about three or four. Um 1366 00:56:48,799 --> 00:56:50,720 what we really came to realize is that 1367 00:56:50,720 --> 00:56:53,680 we've over extended ourselves in terms 1368 00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:56,559 of strategic plan globe strategic plan 1369 00:56:56,559 --> 00:56:59,599 goals. So each director principal has a 1370 00:56:59,599 --> 00:57:02,640 responsibility in those goals. Um and 1371 00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:04,400 it's work that we will accomplish over 1372 00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:06,880 the course of this year. The board has 1373 00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:08,720 responsibilities. My goal is really 1374 00:57:08,720 --> 00:57:12,160 around facility um and working on 1375 00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:14,880 continue to advocate for that work. Um, 1376 00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:16,880 so just so that you know and then I will 1377 00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:20,079 report out in April on progress made on 1378 00:57:20,079 --> 00:57:21,440 those goals. So you'll see if you 1379 00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:23,680 compare this year's to last year's, we 1380 00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:25,760 tried to be a little tighter in the work 1381 00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:28,079 that we're doing um whether it's um 1382 00:57:28,079 --> 00:57:32,319 around having um a consistent response 1383 00:57:32,319 --> 00:57:34,000 to student behavior across all our 1384 00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:36,240 buildings. um some of the other work 1385 00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:37,920 around curriculum but you'll see the 1386 00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:39,839 work that the principles and directors 1387 00:57:39,839 --> 00:57:42,480 have identified for them to ensure that 1388 00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:44,960 we are moving forward on the uh plan of 1389 00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:47,440 the strategic uh with what's listed in 1390 00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:50,000 our strategic plan. 1391 00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:54,230 >> Any questions for Sher? 1392 00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:56,640 » All right. Thank you. Um now we'll start 1393 00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:58,559 into the committee updates. Finance 1394 00:57:58,559 --> 00:58:02,400 committee is up first. 1395 00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:05,280 >> All right. So, we met uh Karina Anna and 1396 00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:11,359 I um two weeks ago and uh Mary has put 1397 00:58:11,359 --> 00:58:14,799 together a few slides that I thought we 1398 00:58:14,799 --> 00:58:17,359 could share with the entire board. 1399 00:58:17,359 --> 00:58:19,920 >> I need to make you co 1400 00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:21,440 can't find you. 1401 00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:23,599 >> Oh, no. You can pull it up on yours. 1402 00:58:23,599 --> 00:58:26,960 >> No, that would I don't It's too hard. 1403 00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:29,680 So, um Randy, can you help me and make 1404 00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:33,349 Mary a co-host? 1405 00:58:33,359 --> 00:58:35,280 Do I need to be logged in or I can see? 1406 00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:37,280 >> No, you just need to uh log into the 1407 00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:39,680 meeting. 1408 00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:41,040 >> Oh, that's why I can't see you because 1409 00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:42,079 you're not logged into the meeting. 1410 00:58:42,079 --> 00:58:44,319 >> No, I'm not. 1411 00:58:44,319 --> 00:58:46,640 >> Sorry. 1412 00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:48,559 >> So, you don't want to share? 1413 00:58:48,559 --> 00:58:51,359 >> It's hard on screen. Yeah. 1414 00:58:51,359 --> 00:58:54,240 >> Yeah. 1415 00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:55,520 just finally. 1416 00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:57,599 >> Well, I'll while you're pulling that up, 1417 00:58:57,599 --> 00:59:01,359 um what we 1418 00:59:01,359 --> 00:59:04,000 presented a month ago is is going to be 1419 00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:05,680 very similar to what we presented now, 1420 00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:07,760 but last time I kind of just verbally 1421 00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:09,200 went through it and I sent some of the 1422 00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:12,160 letters that Jim Fen had prepared back 1423 00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:15,040 in June. So, this is a little bit 1424 00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:17,359 repetitive. Uh it's somewhat refined, 1425 00:59:17,359 --> 00:59:19,040 but now it's going to be visual with the 1426 00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:20,319 slides. We just thought that would be 1427 00:59:20,319 --> 00:59:28,390 better for the board. 1428 00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:29,440 more filler. 1429 00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:33,030 >> More filler. 1430 00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:35,440 » You know, if you understand what Act 70 1431 00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:37,680 is trying to do, it's trying to move us 1432 00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:40,160 to a foundation formula of big merged 1433 00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:42,079 districts with regional schools of 2,000 1434 00:59:42,079 --> 00:59:48,880 plus kids. And um when we get there, the per pupil spending will be based on 1435 00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:52,000 a block grant, which is a lot less than 1436 00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:55,040 the current per pupil spending. And one 1437 00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:57,680 of the ways that the legislature thought 1438 00:59:57,680 --> 01:00:00,640 would be helpful to get us there, and 1439 01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:02,000 that's debatable whether it's going to 1440 01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:04,480 be helpful, is to continue to lower the 1441 01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:06,720 excess spending threshold from one 1442 01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:08,640 fiscal year to the next 1443 01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:10,960 >> as we approach the implementation of the 1444 01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:13,440 grant with the block formula. The 1445 01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:16,720 problem with that approach is that you 1446 01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:18,640 don't really have the big drivers of the 1447 01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:21,119 cost savings. So, the big drivers of the 1448 01:00:21,119 --> 01:00:23,040 cost savings on per cable spending are 1449 01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:26,400 going to be a lot more students. 1450 01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:28,240 That will get your per pupil spending 1451 01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:32,240 down. Um, and so to achieve the kind of 1452 01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:34,400 cuts to get down to the block grants 1453 01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:37,280 without more students is is very hard. 1454 01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:42,480 And so unfortunately these uh act 170 1455 01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:45,359 starts to ratchet down our per pupal 1456 01:00:45,359 --> 01:00:48,960 spending before we really have those big 1457 01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:54,230 changes to our um school population. 1458 01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:56,559 That's I'm not going to say anymore 1459 01:00:56,559 --> 01:00:59,760 Mary's beautiful. 1460 01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:05,430 So now I'm gonna um go to 1461 01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:11,190 >> Yeah. 1462 01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:13,680 » Do we have numbers about um like school 1463 01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:15,599 choice communities of people who could 1464 01:01:15,599 --> 01:01:20,160 come here who don't? 1465 01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:24,000 >> It's a lot more than Okay. 1466 01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:25,359 >> Those who don't. 1467 01:01:25,359 --> 01:01:28,950 >> Yeah. 1468 01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:30,799 I can't answer that right now. 1469 01:01:30,799 --> 01:01:31,440 >> You can't? 1470 01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:32,319 >> I cannot. 1471 01:01:32,319 --> 01:01:35,040 >> That's why this years past when we had 1472 01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:36,559 those questions like, well, how many 1473 01:01:36,559 --> 01:01:38,079 kids from Hartland would go to our 1474 01:01:38,079 --> 01:01:40,799 school versus others? Uh, Raph actually 1475 01:01:40,799 --> 01:01:43,680 was really into doing that analysis for 1476 01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:45,200 us. I don't know who would do it. It 1477 01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:49,599 would be Andrew now or Andy. 1478 01:01:49,599 --> 01:01:50,799 >> Okay, I missed that. I missed the 1479 01:01:50,799 --> 01:01:52,480 question. Sorry. 1480 01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:54,480 Just wondering about like what what kind 1481 01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:55,920 of tuition we're missing out on like 1482 01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:57,680 who's going where and how many people 1483 01:01:57,680 --> 01:01:59,359 are going elsewhere that could be coming 1484 01:01:59,359 --> 01:01:59,760 here 1485 01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:03,359 >> from choice from choice. 1486 01:02:03,359 --> 01:02:04,480 >> I'm looking at 1487 01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:07,040 >> the the what we've when that's been 1488 01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:08,799 investigated by the middle school who 1489 01:02:08,799 --> 01:02:10,799 typically students come in either 1490 01:02:10,799 --> 01:02:13,520 seventh but more most likely ninth grade 1491 01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:16,160 decisions around and Logan can speak to 1492 01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:19,440 this is typically um legacy. So, our 1493 01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:21,280 family goes to Windsor, our family goes 1494 01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:25,119 to Hartford. Um, one factor that we've 1495 01:02:25,119 --> 01:02:28,079 noticed is that because uh Hartland has 1496 01:02:28,079 --> 01:02:32,319 a very um experienced wreck program that 1497 01:02:32,319 --> 01:02:34,720 is associated with Hartford, many 1498 01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:37,280 Hartland residents or athletes go to 1499 01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:38,960 Hartford High School. 1500 01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:41,280 more often what we've noticed in 1501 01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:43,359 conversations because we do have teams 1502 01:02:43,359 --> 01:02:45,760 of teachers who go to those st those 1503 01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:48,799 schools and do presentations 1504 01:02:48,799 --> 01:02:51,920 um often decision to around choices 1505 01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:53,839 around where does that family tend to go 1506 01:02:53,839 --> 01:02:56,240 so it's more legacy what do you look 1507 01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:58,400 >> yeah and it fluctuates a lot I know this 1508 01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:00,400 year we got a lot more weather kids than 1509 01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:02,640 in previous years and the year before we 1510 01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:05,760 didn't get any it's anyone's guess where 1511 01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:08,319 we go I think the best way to look that 1512 01:03:08,319 --> 01:03:09,599 students like me is talented with the 1513 01:03:09,599 --> 01:03:11,280 experience I got when I came here, when 1514 01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:12,559 I shadowed here, I thought it would be 1515 01:03:12,559 --> 01:03:14,880 welcomed. I know something other schools 1516 01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:16,799 started to be doing was taking larger 1517 01:03:16,799 --> 01:03:20,319 groups and giving that big tour. So, I 1518 01:03:20,319 --> 01:03:21,839 think it would benefit us to really 1519 01:03:21,839 --> 01:03:23,599 reach out to these schools like H 1520 01:03:23,599 --> 01:03:25,440 Heartland and Weatherfield because they 1521 01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:27,440 do bring in significant amount of money 1522 01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:29,119 and but you also do have other districts 1523 01:03:29,119 --> 01:03:30,079 like I believe we talked about 1524 01:03:30,079 --> 01:03:32,480 Pittsfield earlier where 98% of their 1525 01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:35,280 kids come to us and it's it's just such 1526 01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:37,359 a like you were saying it's a lot of 1527 01:03:37,359 --> 01:03:39,200 family choice and there's not a huge way 1528 01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:41,039 to predict it. 1529 01:03:41,039 --> 01:03:41,920 >> What town do you live in? 1530 01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:45,990 >> Well, it's 1531 01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:48,240 I'll turn it over to Mary. 1532 01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:50,319 >> Okay. So I was able to put together a 1533 01:03:50,319 --> 01:03:53,839 few slides. Um we were tasked with um 1534 01:03:53,839 --> 01:03:56,640 taking the budget from fiscal year 27 1535 01:03:56,640 --> 01:03:58,640 and doing some estimated assumptions. I 1536 01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:00,000 want everybody to know these are 1537 01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:02,319 estimates. Don't take these numbers to 1538 01:04:02,319 --> 01:04:04,400 say they're the numbers because I know 1539 01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:07,680 how that can be too. So okay, first I 1540 01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:09,119 want to talk a little bit about the 1541 01:04:09,119 --> 01:04:12,799 Vermont education transformation. Um act 1542 01:04:12,799 --> 01:04:15,920 170 is transitioning um toward a new 1543 01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:19,520 education funding structure. Um the 1544 01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:22,720 legislation is basically um tightening 1545 01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:24,640 spending through excess spending 1546 01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:28,960 threshold. In fiscal year 27 it was 118% 1547 01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:34,160 and for 28 it drops down to 115.5%. 1548 01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:36,400 And again beginning in fiscal 28 that is 1549 01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:38,799 going to continue to decline which is 1550 01:04:38,799 --> 01:04:41,920 going to put um increasing restrictions 1551 01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:44,319 on us and we're going to have to look at 1552 01:04:44,319 --> 01:04:47,440 lowering our cost per pupil costs. 1553 01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:50,400 So for example um the legislation or 1554 01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:52,640 legislative analysis estimated fiscal 1555 01:04:52,640 --> 01:04:56,079 year 28 at 115.5% 1556 01:04:56,079 --> 01:05:00,720 that the cost per pupil would be 16,121 1557 01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:04,799 whereas in fiscal year 27 at 118% who's 1558 01:05:04,799 --> 01:05:07,039 16,470. 1559 01:05:07,039 --> 01:05:11,280 So with costs going up, which they are, 1560 01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:15,039 um we need find a way to go down to meet 1561 01:05:15,039 --> 01:05:16,880 their threshold. If we don't meet the 1562 01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:20,400 threshold, we then pay penalties on 1563 01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:23,359 those conditions. But again, everything 1564 01:05:23,359 --> 01:05:25,119 comes into play on that. Your heating, 1565 01:05:25,119 --> 01:05:26,559 you know, all those things. That's why 1566 01:05:26,559 --> 01:05:31,359 the new build, hopefully if we get that, should help us on our costs as far 1567 01:05:31,359 --> 01:05:33,039 as utilities and things like that. But 1568 01:05:33,039 --> 01:05:35,760 even so, that's an expense being added. 1569 01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:38,559 Um, so anyways, again, I'm going to put 1570 01:05:38,559 --> 01:05:40,000 that out there. These are only 1571 01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:43,039 estimates. Um, first of all, we looked 1572 01:05:43,039 --> 01:05:46,240 at employee benefits. We said, well, 1573 01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:47,839 they've gone up every year. We're going 1574 01:05:47,839 --> 01:05:50,079 to look at about 12%. 1575 01:05:50,079 --> 01:05:52,160 That may be high, but, you know, I think 1576 01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:54,400 we're within range of 12% right now 1577 01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:56,000 because we don't have those numbers, and 1578 01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:57,680 we won't have those numbers for a while 1579 01:05:57,680 --> 01:05:59,760 to tell us where that's going to be yet. 1580 01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:01,520 >> Yeah. And I'll just throw in there. I 1581 01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:02,960 think two years ago it was something 1582 01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:06,000 outrageous like 14%. And then last year 1583 01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:08,720 it was something like kind of surprises 1584 01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:11,280 still outrageous but it was like I think 1585 01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:13,280 seven or eight% 1586 01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:16,559 >> 7%. So 12 is I think a good placeholder 1587 01:06:16,559 --> 01:06:18,640 but we don't know what the state's going 1588 01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:19,599 to assign to us. 1589 01:06:19,599 --> 01:06:23,119 >> We never know until like November late 1590 01:06:23,119 --> 01:06:25,839 what that number is. But of of the all 1591 01:06:25,839 --> 01:06:29,520 the things that this just eats up our 1592 01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:32,480 budget and you take away other things if 1593 01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:34,240 everything else stays the same but with 1594 01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:36,960 healthcare is going up 1%. We it just 1595 01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:39,039 start to eat up our budget. We like take 1596 01:06:39,039 --> 01:06:41,280 away from other things. It is it is 1597 01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:42,160 difficult. 1598 01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:44,240 >> Well very we don't have control over. 1599 01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:45,760 That's really what it comes down to in 1600 01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:48,480 our budget. You know we don't have 1601 01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:50,400 control over the cost of insurance that 1602 01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:53,200 is set by somebody else. So, you know, 1603 01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:55,359 it's those are the things that when 1604 01:06:55,359 --> 01:06:58,160 you're looking at those those decreases 1605 01:06:58,160 --> 01:07:00,319 that eat into trying to find a way, like 1606 01:07:00,319 --> 01:07:03,520 Matt said, to cut down to get there. And 1607 01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:06,640 you have to wages and benefits are our 1608 01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:10,640 biggest costs. You know, we are not 1609 01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:12,880 that's what we have. You know, we we're 1610 01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:15,119 service industry. So, you know, we're 1611 01:07:15,119 --> 01:07:16,720 here to support the students and the 1612 01:07:16,720 --> 01:07:19,599 staff and that's how we spend our money. 1613 01:07:19,599 --> 01:07:21,599 Um the next thing is we did look at 1614 01:07:21,599 --> 01:07:23,599 salary increases and things like that 1615 01:07:23,599 --> 01:07:26,160 and and put an amount in there. But the 1616 01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:27,760 other thing is we went with a moderate 1617 01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:30,079 amount 3% increase on everything else 1618 01:07:30,079 --> 01:07:32,000 for utilities and things like that. But 1619 01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:34,319 again, I don't know what's going to 1620 01:07:34,319 --> 01:07:36,559 happen tomorrow. So, you know, things 1621 01:07:36,559 --> 01:07:38,640 could change come November and prices 1622 01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:41,599 could start going back down. But again, 1623 01:07:41,599 --> 01:07:43,839 it's it's a variable that don't have 1624 01:07:43,839 --> 01:07:46,559 control over. The next thing we did is 1625 01:07:46,559 --> 01:07:48,640 we looked at student counts and kept 1626 01:07:48,640 --> 01:07:51,520 enrollment level where it is right now 1627 01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:56,000 um to figure out where we'd be at. So 1628 01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:57,599 starting with the current budget for 1629 01:07:57,599 --> 01:07:59,920 fiscal year 27 we applied all those 1630 01:07:59,920 --> 01:08:04,240 increases and um for comparison purposes 1631 01:08:04,240 --> 01:08:05,760 enrollment like I said we kept that 1632 01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:08,160 level but based on these assumptions the 1633 01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:09,680 finance committee is recommending an 1634 01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:12,960 estimated 1.5 million budget reduction 1635 01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:16,239 which is approximately 15 positions to 1636 01:08:16,239 --> 01:08:18,159 keep our excess spending equal to or 1637 01:08:18,159 --> 01:08:20,799 less than the amount in 27. So that 1638 01:08:20,799 --> 01:08:22,960 would give us a level budget as of right 1639 01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:24,880 now based on those assumptions. But 1640 01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:27,920 again their assumptions um for planning 1641 01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:30,719 purposes again the 15 positions were 1642 01:08:30,719 --> 01:08:33,759 estimated and what we did is took 75% 1643 01:08:33,759 --> 01:08:37,199 teaching and 25% other staff. So that 1644 01:08:37,199 --> 01:08:38,960 could be related to anywhere within the 1645 01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:42,640 district. Um again teacher salaries were 1646 01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:45,839 estimated with a master step one. So we 1647 01:08:45,839 --> 01:08:49,120 tried to be moderate with that. Um and 1648 01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:51,920 other staffs were based on um you know 1649 01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:55,199 hour and hourly rate and benefits. 1650 01:08:55,199 --> 01:08:57,759 Um the last part is I can't stress 1651 01:08:57,759 --> 01:08:59,679 enough these numbers are preliminary 1652 01:08:59,679 --> 01:09:02,480 budget only. No final budget decisions 1653 01:09:02,480 --> 01:09:04,960 have been made. Estimates will continue 1654 01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:07,600 to change updated information as updated 1655 01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:09,600 information becomes available and the 1656 01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:13,120 fiscal 28 budget is developed. Again, 1657 01:09:13,120 --> 01:09:15,359 these are just estimates to give you an 1658 01:09:15,359 --> 01:09:17,440 idea to show you the potential financial 1659 01:09:17,440 --> 01:09:20,400 impact. And this isn't a one-year deal. 1660 01:09:20,400 --> 01:09:23,600 This is going to continue if Act 170 1661 01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:26,799 stays in place and schools are going to 1662 01:09:26,799 --> 01:09:29,040 be forced to keep looking at their 1663 01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:31,520 programs and their personnel and and 1664 01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:33,040 stuff. So, 1665 01:09:33,040 --> 01:09:35,120 >> yeah. And I'll I'll add a few things 1666 01:09:35,120 --> 01:09:37,759 then if Karina and Anna want to jump in. 1667 01:09:37,759 --> 01:09:40,159 Um, so when we met with our finance 1668 01:09:40,159 --> 01:09:42,159 committee two months ago, 1669 01:09:42,159 --> 01:09:45,679 and we're looking at these numbers. 1670 01:09:45,679 --> 01:09:49,199 Um, we knew that we we couldn't wait 1671 01:09:49,199 --> 01:09:51,440 until we get the final healthcare number 1672 01:09:51,440 --> 01:09:54,719 until we get the final uh per number of 1673 01:09:54,719 --> 01:09:56,400 people, the long-term weighted average 1674 01:09:56,400 --> 01:09:57,360 daily 1675 01:09:57,360 --> 01:09:58,000 >> membership. 1676 01:09:58,000 --> 01:09:59,679 Why would they use that 1677 01:09:59,679 --> 01:10:00,960 word? 1678 01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:02,880 students students um 1679 01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:03,600 >> Vermont 1680 01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:07,360 >> and uh and and we won't know like the 1681 01:10:07,360 --> 01:10:08,800 property yield and all those things are 1682 01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:10,640 going to actually tax calculating tax 1683 01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:13,679 rates and CLA's we just can't wait for 1684 01:10:13,679 --> 01:10:16,560 the final final numbers if we can 1685 01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:18,800 already see that the excess spending 1686 01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:20,560 threshold percentage is coming down and 1687 01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:23,920 we have to reduce then we need to as a 1688 01:10:23,920 --> 01:10:25,120 board and I'm talking about board 1689 01:10:25,120 --> 01:10:27,280 members here we need as a board to tell 1690 01:10:27,280 --> 01:10:30,560 our administration what to do like go 1691 01:10:30,560 --> 01:10:32,640 look for some, you know, budget 1692 01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:34,480 reductions. And so what we came up with 1693 01:10:34,480 --> 01:10:37,920 was um when we crunched these numbers 1694 01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:40,480 based on just those assumptions, if we 1695 01:10:40,480 --> 01:10:42,719 want to be level at where we were last 1696 01:10:42,719 --> 01:10:45,679 year in in the amount that was in in in 1697 01:10:45,679 --> 01:10:49,360 threshold, it would be 1.5 million. So 1698 01:10:49,360 --> 01:10:51,120 that's the starting point. And Cherry 1699 01:10:51,120 --> 01:10:53,520 put together a letter that went to all 1700 01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:56,080 of the staff and leadership across all 1701 01:10:56,080 --> 01:10:58,080 our campuses. And I think you've had at 1702 01:10:58,080 --> 01:10:59,840 least one meeting so far with 1703 01:10:59,840 --> 01:11:05,199 administration principles and leaders to start working on potential proposals. 1704 01:11:05,199 --> 01:11:08,000 Um but those proposals haven't even come 1705 01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:09,760 back to us yet as a finance committee. 1706 01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:11,600 So I I can't share with the board like 1707 01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:14,239 what will be the suggested reductions. 1708 01:11:14,239 --> 01:11:16,480 But that those will start coming in to 1709 01:11:16,480 --> 01:11:18,239 us the finance committee within two 1710 01:11:18,239 --> 01:11:20,719 weeks and then we can come we can share 1711 01:11:20,719 --> 01:11:24,159 those with the full board. Um, but it it 1712 01:11:24,159 --> 01:11:26,480 will be challenging and and maybe some 1713 01:11:26,480 --> 01:11:28,239 numbers will go in our favor like that 1714 01:11:28,239 --> 01:11:30,960 health insurance cost. Maybe it won't be 1715 01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:32,800 12%. But other things could go against 1716 01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:36,560 us like the final number of students. 1717 01:11:36,560 --> 01:11:39,440 So, we'll we'll be very transparent and 1718 01:11:39,440 --> 01:11:41,760 we want the public to to know that this 1719 01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:43,840 is the the work that we're doing and we 1720 01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:47,040 want people to come to our meetings and give input. 1721 01:11:47,040 --> 01:11:48,640 >> Bren, and 1722 01:11:48,640 --> 01:11:49,679 >> you covered it. 1723 01:11:49,679 --> 01:11:50,159 >> Okay. 1724 01:11:50,159 --> 01:11:51,840 >> Yeah. 1725 01:11:51,840 --> 01:11:53,520 And I think Matt, you know, at the end 1726 01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:55,920 of our last meeting, the whole 1727 01:11:55,920 --> 01:11:57,920 committee, no one wants to cut. This is 1728 01:11:57,920 --> 01:12:00,320 not a task that any of us wants to 1729 01:12:00,320 --> 01:12:04,000 enter. It is not administration's goal. 1730 01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:06,159 We have a highly successful district. 1731 01:12:06,159 --> 01:12:09,840 Our students are thriving. Um, we have 1732 01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:11,760 tightened our belts for many years now, 1733 01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:14,800 but 15 positions is a lot of positions 1734 01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:17,040 no matter where they land. And I just 1735 01:12:17,040 --> 01:12:19,520 and I really appreciate the finance 1736 01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:21,280 committee has been works finance 1737 01:12:21,280 --> 01:12:24,159 committee very clear on the charge 1738 01:12:24,159 --> 01:12:26,480 really walking with us in this really 1739 01:12:26,480 --> 01:12:28,800 hard decision. I appreciate Matt allowed 1740 01:12:28,800 --> 01:12:30,480 me to put his name on that memo that 1741 01:12:30,480 --> 01:12:32,560 went out to the faculty and staff. I 1742 01:12:32,560 --> 01:12:34,960 know they're organizing. I see lots of 1743 01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:36,880 faculty here tonight. I am so 1744 01:12:36,880 --> 01:12:39,120 appreciative of them giving us their 1745 01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:40,880 evening so they are involved. they're 1746 01:12:40,880 --> 01:12:44,480 listening and that they know that um 1747 01:12:44,480 --> 01:12:46,320 speaking with their their senators, 1748 01:12:46,320 --> 01:12:47,760 speaking with their representatives, 1749 01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:49,600 holding their governor accountable, 1750 01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:51,760 that's where the work really has to be. 1751 01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:54,800 No one wants to cut. Everyone's proud of 1752 01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:56,960 the work that's happening. We are forced 1753 01:12:56,960 --> 01:12:59,679 into this position because of act 170 1754 01:12:59,679 --> 01:13:02,480 and only we know these communities have 1755 01:13:02,480 --> 01:13:05,360 shown up in amazing ways in Montpillar 1756 01:13:05,360 --> 01:13:07,600 and um hopefully people will feel that 1757 01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:09,440 same energy to make those choices again. 1758 01:13:09,440 --> 01:13:10,960 So, I want to thank the finance 1759 01:13:10,960 --> 01:13:13,920 committee. It's been a very transparent 1760 01:13:13,920 --> 01:13:15,920 process so far and I really appreciate 1761 01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:18,239 it and so is the principles. Anna, would 1762 01:13:18,239 --> 01:13:20,000 you like to speak as a member of the 1763 01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:21,679 committee? 1764 01:13:21,679 --> 01:13:23,920 >> Yeah, I wanted to kind of reiterate two 1765 01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:26,640 things. Um, one is just that I wanted to 1766 01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:29,040 share um, a piece that Matt had shared, 1767 01:13:29,040 --> 01:13:30,400 but maybe in a little different words to 1768 01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:32,320 make sure everybody's clear that um, 1769 01:13:32,320 --> 01:13:34,880 this 1.5 million cut would keep us at a 1770 01:13:34,880 --> 01:13:37,600 similar level of excess spending as the 1771 01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:39,840 taxpayers approved last year. So, we're 1772 01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:41,840 trying to keep it in uh, you know, 1773 01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:43,920 similar depth of excess in that of that 1774 01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:46,320 threshold per people spend as we had 1775 01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:48,640 approval for last year. So, meeting our 1776 01:13:48,640 --> 01:13:51,440 expectations for um, our taxpayers as 1777 01:13:51,440 --> 01:13:53,440 well. Um, and then something that Mary 1778 01:13:53,440 --> 01:13:55,199 said that I think is is worthwhile 1779 01:13:55,199 --> 01:13:57,760 saying again is that this is likely not 1780 01:13:57,760 --> 01:14:00,400 going to be just this year. Um, if Act 1781 01:14:00,400 --> 01:14:02,320 170 continues to go and we continue to 1782 01:14:02,320 --> 01:14:04,640 head down the trail towards this um, 1783 01:14:04,640 --> 01:14:06,640 foundation formula, we are going to need 1784 01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:09,760 to do this repeatedly every year. And 1785 01:14:09,760 --> 01:14:11,440 one more thing, as Sher said, this is 1786 01:14:11,440 --> 01:14:13,280 not what we want to do as the finance 1787 01:14:13,280 --> 01:14:15,840 committee. We we have such a successful 1788 01:14:15,840 --> 01:14:17,840 district right now and this is, you 1789 01:14:17,840 --> 01:14:19,040 know, the opposite of what we want to 1790 01:14:19,040 --> 01:14:21,520 do. We want to continue to to foster the 1791 01:14:21,520 --> 01:14:22,960 great education that we're offering 1792 01:14:22,960 --> 01:14:25,520 students. Um, and this is uh this is 1793 01:14:25,520 --> 01:14:26,800 going to be heartbreaking for us should 1794 01:14:26,800 --> 01:14:28,960 we need to go down this pathway. Thank 1795 01:14:28,960 --> 01:14:32,870 you. 1796 01:14:32,880 --> 01:14:34,159 » Yes, Lara. 1797 01:14:34,159 --> 01:14:38,800 >> In um previous years budget migraine 1798 01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:42,400 discussions, we've had like three 1799 01:14:42,400 --> 01:14:44,800 different options presented to us and we 1800 01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:46,880 sort of voted on which one. Are you 1801 01:14:46,880 --> 01:14:49,280 planning on giving us multiple options 1802 01:14:49,280 --> 01:14:50,719 or are you 1803 01:14:50,719 --> 01:14:58,000 >> Yes, we've asked the administration to kind of rank uh each possible cut 1804 01:14:58,000 --> 01:15:01,040 that they could make in terms of 1805 01:15:01,040 --> 01:15:03,520 um what would be, you know, least 1806 01:15:03,520 --> 01:15:06,320 impactful on educational experience, but 1807 01:15:06,320 --> 01:15:08,000 maybe the most bang for the buck. So, 1808 01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:11,600 we're we're trying to uh and then we'll 1809 01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:14,239 group together the ones that we think we 1810 01:15:14,239 --> 01:15:16,800 can kind of live with and put together 1811 01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:20,239 uh yes scenarios and sensitivities and 1812 01:15:20,239 --> 01:15:22,960 show various options 1813 01:15:22,960 --> 01:15:24,800 like here's what it looks like if you go 1814 01:15:24,800 --> 01:15:26,960 all the way to 1.5 mil here. Here's what 1815 01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:28,719 it looks like if you only maybe get 1816 01:15:28,719 --> 01:15:31,679 partway there. But we don't have that 1817 01:15:31,679 --> 01:15:34,960 yet. And so time timelinewise, 1818 01:15:34,960 --> 01:15:37,840 this board votes to move the budget 1819 01:15:37,840 --> 01:15:41,040 forward uh at our December meeting. So 1820 01:15:41,040 --> 01:15:42,800 we have our October meeting or November 1821 01:15:42,800 --> 01:15:45,280 meeting or December meeting. And then if 1822 01:15:45,280 --> 01:15:48,000 we don't come to agreement in December, 1823 01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:50,000 we can call a special meeting, try 1824 01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:53,760 again. Um, and I think the worst case 1825 01:15:53,760 --> 01:15:56,239 scenario, we can pass like January, 1826 01:15:56,239 --> 01:15:58,800 early January, we can get it passed as a 1827 01:15:58,800 --> 01:16:01,199 board and then that's in time for to be 1828 01:16:01,199 --> 01:16:05,360 warned for the March town votes. 1829 01:16:05,360 --> 01:16:07,679 But last year we able to we we did get 1830 01:16:07,679 --> 01:16:09,679 it through the December 6 meeting from 1831 01:16:09,679 --> 01:16:12,159 last year. So that's ideal. We want to 1832 01:16:12,159 --> 01:16:17,830 approve it as a board by December. 1833 01:16:17,840 --> 01:16:21,679 sprint. So an estimated 1.5 million is 1834 01:16:21,679 --> 01:16:23,840 going to be cut in the next year and an 1835 01:16:23,840 --> 01:16:25,600 estimated 15 positions are going to be 1836 01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:27,440 removed through the next year. 1837 01:16:27,440 --> 01:16:32,080 >> That's the target. Yeah, that's the goal. That's the sort of like 1838 01:16:32,080 --> 01:16:36,400 starting point. It's not definite. You 1839 01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:39,040 can't phrase it like that because 1840 01:16:39,040 --> 01:16:40,640 >> estimated estimated. 1841 01:16:40,640 --> 01:16:41,520 >> Yep. 1842 01:16:41,520 --> 01:16:43,120 >> And it doesn't have to all be positions. 1843 01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:45,360 It could be other other spending. It 1844 01:16:45,360 --> 01:16:48,960 could it can but the equivalent FTEES 1845 01:16:48,960 --> 01:16:50,719 based on teacher salaries and staff 1846 01:16:50,719 --> 01:16:54,080 salaries was 15 but it can it could also 1847 01:16:54,080 --> 01:16:58,640 come from cutting you name it oil 1848 01:16:58,640 --> 01:17:02,320 consumption of the schools 1849 01:17:02,320 --> 01:17:05,360 >> Chromebooks patches 1850 01:17:05,360 --> 01:17:06,480 can I ask a question please 1851 01:17:06,480 --> 01:17:07,679 >> yes 1852 01:17:07,679 --> 01:17:10,159 >> earlier we said act 170 is about 1853 01:17:10,159 --> 01:17:12,000 improving the quality of education for 1854 01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:14,719 all is that defined what that means like 1855 01:17:14,719 --> 01:17:15,600 is Is there a minimum? 1856 01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:16,960 >> That's just called pre that's like 1857 01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:19,199 preamble garbage that goes into all 1858 01:17:19,199 --> 01:17:20,000 legislation. 1859 01:17:20,000 --> 01:17:21,760 >> So cuz I mean I know that we don't have 1860 01:17:21,760 --> 01:17:23,760 a ton of excess 1861 01:17:23,760 --> 01:17:26,480 FTEES around like at some point are we 1862 01:17:26,480 --> 01:17:28,880 actually like decreasing the quality of 1863 01:17:28,880 --> 01:17:30,640 the education in a way that is objective 1864 01:17:30,640 --> 01:17:33,040 that we can show to the state or to 1865 01:17:33,040 --> 01:17:39,430 anyone or is this just all subjective? 1866 01:17:39,440 --> 01:17:41,440 Are there minimum standards that we have 1867 01:17:41,440 --> 01:17:44,080 to be able to show like teacher student 1868 01:17:44,080 --> 01:17:46,000 ratios, 1869 01:17:46,000 --> 01:17:46,960 right? 1870 01:17:46,960 --> 01:17:49,280 >> There's lots of things that are set that 1871 01:17:49,280 --> 01:17:53,040 we and certain programs or classes that 1872 01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:55,920 we cannot touch or touch because they 1873 01:17:55,920 --> 01:17:57,440 are part of safe stand. 1874 01:17:57,440 --> 01:17:59,199 >> So I'm assuming that will be baked into 1875 01:17:59,199 --> 01:18:01,760 whatever is presented like these are 1876 01:18:01,760 --> 01:18:03,600 costs we can't touch. These are fixed. 1877 01:18:03,600 --> 01:18:05,120 So of those these are the things that 1878 01:18:05,120 --> 01:18:06,960 are on the table. 1879 01:18:06,960 --> 01:18:09,120 And when the state says improving 1880 01:18:09,120 --> 01:18:11,920 quality, they're looking from a 1881 01:18:11,920 --> 01:18:14,000 statewide 1882 01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:16,640 perspective with their their you know 1883 01:18:16,640 --> 01:18:18,239 legislation. 1884 01:18:18,239 --> 01:18:26,000 Um we are in excess spending because we 1885 01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:28,880 spend 1886 01:18:28,880 --> 01:18:30,960 according to the way they calculate it 1887 01:18:30,960 --> 01:18:32,560 more per student than some other 1888 01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:35,120 districts in the in the state. 1889 01:18:35,120 --> 01:18:40,000 Um so but and we serve our students very 1890 01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:41,120 well. 1891 01:18:41,120 --> 01:18:42,800 >> Um and there are there are other things 1892 01:18:42,800 --> 01:18:44,480 about the ways that we serve our 1893 01:18:44,480 --> 01:18:49,199 students um that actually may translate 1894 01:18:49,199 --> 01:18:51,760 to savings at the state level and that's 1895 01:18:51,760 --> 01:18:54,320 a whole another conversation 1896 01:18:54,320 --> 01:18:58,960 u or piece of it. Um, but 1897 01:18:58,960 --> 01:19:01,600 when they say when they use that the 1898 01:19:01,600 --> 01:19:03,520 phrasing we're we're doing this we're 1899 01:19:03,520 --> 01:19:05,199 putting this latitude before because we 1900 01:19:05,199 --> 01:19:06,560 want 1901 01:19:06,560 --> 01:19:09,679 >> education. Um, 1902 01:19:09,679 --> 01:19:11,920 they're essentially talking about 1903 01:19:11,920 --> 01:19:13,520 improving things across the board. But 1904 01:19:13,520 --> 01:19:15,520 one of the one of the critiques has 1905 01:19:15,520 --> 01:19:18,960 been, you know, you're saving money and 1906 01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:20,640 improving education by leveling 1907 01:19:20,640 --> 01:19:22,320 everything down. 1908 01:19:22,320 --> 01:19:24,880 >> Yeah. 1909 01:19:24,880 --> 01:19:28,229 Uh 1910 01:19:28,239 --> 01:19:30,080 » yeah, thanks. Another couple of pieces 1911 01:19:30,080 --> 01:19:32,560 of information. Um it seems very 1912 01:19:32,560 --> 01:19:34,800 personal that we go straight to talking 1913 01:19:34,800 --> 01:19:38,159 about um staff personnel. Um and there's 1914 01:19:38,159 --> 01:19:40,000 reason behind this. This is not again 1915 01:19:40,000 --> 01:19:41,840 this would not be our our choice of what 1916 01:19:41,840 --> 01:19:44,159 to cut. However, at this point with the 1917 01:19:44,159 --> 01:19:46,080 way that insurance rates that are set by 1918 01:19:46,080 --> 01:19:48,960 the state are going up. um our total 1919 01:19:48,960 --> 01:19:51,280 budget about somewhere between 80 up to 1920 01:19:51,280 --> 01:19:53,840 85% of our costs is personnel and 1921 01:19:53,840 --> 01:19:56,640 benefits and insurance. Um and so when 1922 01:19:56,640 --> 01:19:59,679 we look at costs um this is the biggest 1923 01:19:59,679 --> 01:20:01,920 driver of of costs. Um the biggest 1924 01:20:01,920 --> 01:20:03,360 portion of our cost maybe is a better 1925 01:20:03,360 --> 01:20:06,239 way to say that. Um so this is you know 1926 01:20:06,239 --> 01:20:08,800 this feels very personal. Um you know we 1927 01:20:08,800 --> 01:20:10,239 all have family and friends that are on 1928 01:20:10,239 --> 01:20:12,080 staff. This is this is pretty dramatic 1929 01:20:12,080 --> 01:20:15,280 for many of us. Um, I'll also say that, 1930 01:20:15,280 --> 01:20:16,960 um, as Mary had alluded to, a lot of 1931 01:20:16,960 --> 01:20:18,560 these numbers are going to change, and 1932 01:20:18,560 --> 01:20:20,480 some of them don't even don't even get 1933 01:20:20,480 --> 01:20:22,560 settled until after the taxpayers have 1934 01:20:22,560 --> 01:20:25,040 passed the budget, too. Um, so we're 1935 01:20:25,040 --> 01:20:26,480 really throwing these numbers out as 1936 01:20:26,480 --> 01:20:28,480 estimates. Um, and they are going to 1937 01:20:28,480 --> 01:20:30,320 change between now and December, and 1938 01:20:30,320 --> 01:20:32,239 they will change also after, some of 1939 01:20:32,239 --> 01:20:34,239 them will change after the taxpayers 1940 01:20:34,239 --> 01:20:35,679 have already voted on the budget as 1941 01:20:35,679 --> 01:20:37,520 well. Um, so it's really kind of a 1942 01:20:37,520 --> 01:20:39,520 tricky situation as for us to navigate 1943 01:20:39,520 --> 01:20:41,760 these and give you estimates knowing 1944 01:20:41,760 --> 01:20:43,520 full well that they're not set and won't 1945 01:20:43,520 --> 01:20:46,320 be set again until the taxpayers have 1946 01:20:46,320 --> 01:20:49,440 already p passed a budget. Um, so we 1947 01:20:49,440 --> 01:20:51,199 appreciate your patience as we do our 1948 01:20:51,199 --> 01:20:52,800 best to estimate these numbers knowing 1949 01:20:52,800 --> 01:20:54,480 that they're not going to be settled for 1950 01:20:54,480 --> 01:20:56,640 a while. 1951 01:20:56,640 --> 01:20:58,400 And I think it's important to know that 1952 01:20:58,400 --> 01:20:59,920 last year there were certain numbers 1953 01:20:59,920 --> 01:21:02,560 that the state was projecting that we 1954 01:21:02,560 --> 01:21:04,960 put baked into the budget and the 1955 01:21:04,960 --> 01:21:06,960 numbers came out quite a bit lower in 1956 01:21:06,960 --> 01:21:11,280 some areas. So therefore um we we were 1957 01:21:11,280 --> 01:21:13,840 okay and that it was the buy down of the 1958 01:21:13,840 --> 01:21:18,320 taxes. So it did help the taxpayers. Um 1959 01:21:18,320 --> 01:21:20,400 but the whole upper valley has the same 1960 01:21:20,400 --> 01:21:22,800 problem. When you look at the map, there 1961 01:21:22,800 --> 01:21:24,880 is a map. I I don't know where I saw it, 1962 01:21:24,880 --> 01:21:27,360 but there was a map that showed, you 1963 01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:29,520 know, who's paying the most in taxes 1964 01:21:29,520 --> 01:21:32,239 regarding the the double tax. We the 1965 01:21:32,239 --> 01:21:34,400 upper valley is completely hard hit 1966 01:21:34,400 --> 01:21:37,040 every single town. And then you can look 1967 01:21:37,040 --> 01:21:39,360 at other towns and they have a neutral 1968 01:21:39,360 --> 01:21:41,360 and then there were others that had 1969 01:21:41,360 --> 01:21:44,400 different classification. It's kind of 1970 01:21:44,400 --> 01:21:46,800 mindboggling how they set these things. 1971 01:21:46,800 --> 01:21:48,960 We nobody I've never heard a good 1972 01:21:48,960 --> 01:21:52,000 explanation of this but um I'm trying to 1973 01:21:52,000 --> 01:21:54,719 get that one now. 1974 01:21:54,719 --> 01:21:57,360 So yeah, this region hasn't been getting 1975 01:21:57,360 --> 01:21:59,199 quite hit. There are districts who will 1976 01:21:59,199 --> 01:22:01,600 be doubling the number of positions cut 1977 01:22:01,600 --> 01:22:03,760 than what we're talking about now around 1978 01:22:03,760 --> 01:22:06,000 us. It is 1979 01:22:06,000 --> 01:22:09,910 unimaginable. 1980 01:22:09,920 --> 01:22:13,199 » All right. Anything else with finance? 1981 01:22:13,199 --> 01:22:16,639 All right. Thank you. Um, next we have a 1982 01:22:16,639 --> 01:22:19,120 policy committee update from Elliot. 1983 01:22:19,120 --> 01:22:19,520 >> Yep. 1984 01:22:19,520 --> 01:22:22,239 >> Thanks. Uh, so we have three policies to 1985 01:22:22,239 --> 01:22:24,239 review. Two of them are for second 1986 01:22:24,239 --> 01:22:26,239 reading. Uh, first one is school 1987 01:22:26,239 --> 01:22:28,880 district building access policy. 1988 01:22:28,880 --> 01:22:31,199 Remember this is about after your hours 1989 01:22:31,199 --> 01:22:33,679 access with emphasis on vacations, 1990 01:22:33,679 --> 01:22:36,080 holidays, certain times. And this was 1991 01:22:36,080 --> 01:22:38,159 brought to us by as a request from the 1992 01:22:38,159 --> 01:22:41,120 building and grounds and facilities. Um, 1993 01:22:41,120 --> 01:22:44,080 so I'm asking for a motion to bring it 1994 01:22:44,080 --> 01:22:46,000 to the next meeting and not go over as a 1995 01:22:46,000 --> 01:22:51,270 as an adoption reading next. 1996 01:22:51,280 --> 01:22:53,840 » Is this I would assume like is this 1997 01:22:53,840 --> 01:22:56,880 related to in any way to public comment 1998 01:22:56,880 --> 01:23:01,110 we received earlier about 1999 01:23:01,120 --> 01:23:04,480 No, that policy does not cover them. 2000 01:23:04,480 --> 01:23:07,199 Um, so 2001 01:23:07,199 --> 01:23:11,350 >> perfect. 2002 01:23:11,360 --> 01:23:14,800 Thank you, June. All in favor of uh 2003 01:23:14,800 --> 01:23:18,000 passing uh to a final reading slash 2004 01:23:18,000 --> 01:23:20,320 adoption of the school district building 2005 01:23:20,320 --> 01:23:22,480 access policy, please say I or raise 2006 01:23:22,480 --> 01:23:24,080 your hand discussion. 2007 01:23:24,080 --> 01:23:25,199 >> Oh, sure. 2008 01:23:25,199 --> 01:23:34,390 >> Just a question about it. Um 2009 01:23:34,400 --> 01:23:38,320 has have various groups weighed in on 2010 01:23:38,320 --> 01:23:41,040 the on the on the policy. I'm just 2011 01:23:41,040 --> 01:23:44,080 curious um 2012 01:23:44,080 --> 01:23:45,360 >> I think curious 2013 01:23:45,360 --> 01:23:48,080 >> who impacted the most and the 2014 01:23:48,080 --> 01:23:50,320 >> well who's impacted the most our 2015 01:23:50,320 --> 01:23:54,320 buildings and grounds team who because 2016 01:23:54,320 --> 01:23:57,679 faculty um were done the Friday after 2017 01:23:57,679 --> 01:23:59,440 were no longer in the building the 2018 01:23:59,440 --> 01:24:01,840 Friday after students left and then two 2019 01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:04,000 weeks before then people who were 2020 01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:05,679 working the buildings were able the 2021 01:24:05,679 --> 01:24:07,600 toughest building was Prosper Valley 2022 01:24:07,600 --> 01:24:09,440 Summer so was at Prosper Valley this 2023 01:24:09,440 --> 01:24:11,920 year So, not only were teachers not, you 2024 01:24:11,920 --> 01:24:13,440 know, able to get in there because 2025 01:24:13,440 --> 01:24:15,360 teachers were running the program. That 2026 01:24:15,360 --> 01:24:18,560 was a little challenging, um, what the 2027 01:24:18,560 --> 01:24:20,560 report back we had with principles is 2028 01:24:20,560 --> 01:24:22,480 that if a teacher wanted to get into the 2029 01:24:22,480 --> 01:24:24,239 building, they would ask the principal 2030 01:24:24,239 --> 01:24:26,000 and then have access. And usually it 2031 01:24:26,000 --> 01:24:28,239 was, "We're changing classrooms. I'm 2032 01:24:28,239 --> 01:24:30,159 moving my materials or those kinds of 2033 01:24:30,159 --> 01:24:31,840 things." So, for the most part, worked 2034 01:24:31,840 --> 01:24:34,000 really well. Me and Got to get in there, 2035 01:24:34,000 --> 01:24:35,679 clean the classrooms. As we know, a ton 2036 01:24:35,679 --> 01:24:37,120 of work happened at the middle school 2037 01:24:37,120 --> 01:24:39,280 high school. When teachers needed to get 2038 01:24:39,280 --> 01:24:41,120 into a space, they connected with the 2039 01:24:41,120 --> 01:24:42,880 principal, permission was given, but it 2040 01:24:42,880 --> 01:24:44,960 gave real clarity that the goal and 2041 01:24:44,960 --> 01:24:46,800 intent is during those summer months, we 2042 01:24:46,800 --> 01:24:48,719 really need to get the biggie team in 2043 01:24:48,719 --> 01:24:50,480 there so they can do the work. Yeah, 2044 01:24:50,480 --> 01:24:52,480 that's when we do our big projects. Same 2045 01:24:52,480 --> 01:24:55,120 is true winter break um and our, you 2046 01:24:55,120 --> 01:24:57,199 know, spring break and April break is 2047 01:24:57,199 --> 01:24:59,199 the um February break. Those are the 2048 01:24:59,199 --> 01:25:01,199 times where they can contract groups to 2049 01:25:01,199 --> 01:25:03,520 come in actually work. you can't do it 2050 01:25:03,520 --> 01:25:06,080 when students are there. So if staff are 2051 01:25:06,080 --> 01:25:07,520 faculty and staff aren't there during 2052 01:25:07,520 --> 01:25:09,679 those times the work can get done. Okay. 2053 01:25:09,679 --> 01:25:10,000 So 2054 01:25:10,000 --> 01:25:12,000 >> and this covers weekends as well. 2055 01:25:12,000 --> 01:25:14,159 >> No it does not. It's just vacations. 2056 01:25:14,159 --> 01:25:17,360 Weekends absolutely teachers can get in. 2057 01:25:17,360 --> 01:25:21,840 That's not how just the vacations. 2058 01:25:21,840 --> 01:25:24,880 >> Um I was going to add some discussion. 2059 01:25:24,880 --> 01:25:27,920 So, I just hope that the policy has been 2060 01:25:27,920 --> 01:25:33,280 reviewed in relation to the um existing 2061 01:25:33,280 --> 01:25:36,560 policy for community use 2062 01:25:36,560 --> 01:25:41,440 um which allows uh organizations to use 2063 01:25:41,440 --> 01:25:45,120 our public facilities upon approval from 2064 01:25:45,120 --> 01:25:47,120 I think it's director of operations I 2065 01:25:47,120 --> 01:25:49,440 think is the way that policy is written. 2066 01:25:49,440 --> 01:25:51,440 uh and having actually taken advantage 2067 01:25:51,440 --> 01:25:55,040 of that and run um programs in our 2068 01:25:55,040 --> 01:25:58,159 public buildings like coaching various 2069 01:25:58,159 --> 01:26:00,560 sports that might not be a school sport. 2070 01:26:00,560 --> 01:26:04,080 It could be like a travel team. Um it 2071 01:26:04,080 --> 01:26:06,159 would be devastating to those programs 2072 01:26:06,159 --> 01:26:09,120 if all of a sudden every one of these 2073 01:26:09,120 --> 01:26:12,320 holidays were carved out and no one can 2074 01:26:12,320 --> 01:26:15,920 get in the building. So can we just 2075 01:26:15,920 --> 01:26:18,719 uh double check the 2076 01:26:18,719 --> 01:26:20,880 >> school? Yeah. Policy specific to 2077 01:26:20,880 --> 01:26:22,239 teachers. 2078 01:26:22,239 --> 01:26:22,800 >> Okay. 2079 01:26:22,800 --> 01:26:24,800 >> It's and so we have the building use 2080 01:26:24,800 --> 01:26:27,679 form which goes through administration 2081 01:26:27,679 --> 01:26:30,719 but this policy correct is specifically 2082 01:26:30,719 --> 01:26:33,280 to faculty and and staff using the 2083 01:26:33,280 --> 01:26:34,960 building. 2084 01:26:34,960 --> 01:26:37,040 It's my understanding. Is that right? 2085 01:26:37,040 --> 01:26:37,440 >> Yeah. 2086 01:26:37,440 --> 01:26:41,510 >> It's just got to answer. 2087 01:26:41,520 --> 01:26:42,880 So those other groups if they have 2088 01:26:42,880 --> 01:26:46,320 permission to use them they'll be able to use it during those 2089 01:26:46,320 --> 01:26:47,920 times correctly 2090 01:26:47,920 --> 01:26:49,920 >> unless I mean I just I don't want to you 2091 01:26:49,920 --> 01:26:52,480 know if Prosper Valley needs a new gym 2092 01:26:52,480 --> 01:26:55,520 floor knows you know I mean there will 2093 01:26:55,520 --> 01:26:58,320 there may be events that happen which 2094 01:26:58,320 --> 01:27:01,120 prevents groups to come in during those 2095 01:27:01,120 --> 01:27:03,040 priority first has got to be maintain 2096 01:27:03,040 --> 01:27:05,360 the building for students strings 2097 01:27:05,360 --> 01:27:06,639 >> and that that already exists today 2098 01:27:06,639 --> 01:27:07,920 because when you fill out a request for 2099 01:27:07,920 --> 01:27:09,120 it and they look at their schedule and 2100 01:27:09,120 --> 01:27:10,639 tell you you can get your dates that 2101 01:27:10,639 --> 01:27:13,600 your question. So if you get your dates, 2102 01:27:13,600 --> 01:27:15,040 >> you'll be able to use the building even 2103 01:27:15,040 --> 01:27:16,719 though no other faculty or staff will be 2104 01:27:16,719 --> 01:27:19,360 allowed in. So who will let you in? I I 2105 01:27:19,360 --> 01:27:21,040 don't know. So just I'm just saying make 2106 01:27:21,040 --> 01:27:21,520 sure that 2107 01:27:21,520 --> 01:27:23,040 >> rec center has a key 2108 01:27:23,040 --> 01:27:24,560 >> so they have access to Lake Prosper 2109 01:27:24,560 --> 01:27:25,440 Valley and the different buildings 2110 01:27:25,440 --> 01:27:27,360 depending upon. So they have access to 2111 01:27:27,360 --> 01:27:30,800 that and and really if they're using the 2112 01:27:30,800 --> 01:27:33,040 gymnasium or common use area, it's the 2113 01:27:33,040 --> 01:27:35,040 classrooms getting into the classrooms, 2114 01:27:35,040 --> 01:27:36,880 cleaning them. So you know, especially 2115 01:27:36,880 --> 01:27:38,320 during winter break, there's a deep 2116 01:27:38,320 --> 01:27:41,360 clean. germs in, germs out. It's those 2117 01:27:41,360 --> 01:27:43,120 classroom spaces and that's what we're 2118 01:27:43,120 --> 01:27:44,960 really speaking to in that polic, you 2119 01:27:44,960 --> 01:27:46,400 know, what Joe recommended in that 2120 01:27:46,400 --> 01:27:47,920 policy 2121 01:27:47,920 --> 01:27:50,639 more so than a gymnasium that's easy to 2122 01:27:50,639 --> 01:27:52,400 clean is classrooms where the touch 2123 01:27:52,400 --> 01:27:55,520 spaces where students are can be 2124 01:27:55,520 --> 01:27:58,159 challenging. Yeah, it just seems like 2125 01:27:58,159 --> 01:28:01,920 the the piece the stress is just in and 2126 01:28:01,920 --> 01:28:04,560 developing the the procedures that that 2127 01:28:04,560 --> 01:28:06,639 sort of align with this policy to make 2128 01:28:06,639 --> 01:28:10,880 sure that that works as well um with the 2129 01:28:10,880 --> 01:28:15,430 that other existing policy 2130 01:28:15,440 --> 01:28:18,159 elementary for three weeks during the 2131 01:28:18,159 --> 01:28:21,199 summer. Um that went on and custodian 2132 01:28:21,199 --> 01:28:22,560 there knew what was coming. There's 2133 01:28:22,560 --> 01:28:25,520 that's been a consistent plan. um and 2134 01:28:25,520 --> 01:28:27,199 the number of classrooms they use was 2135 01:28:27,199 --> 01:28:29,920 really delineated. So, we still want to 2136 01:28:29,920 --> 01:28:31,840 be good community partners and we want 2137 01:28:31,840 --> 01:28:33,520 to make sure me and Gene can do the work 2138 01:28:33,520 --> 01:28:36,880 we have to do so school can open and 2139 01:28:36,880 --> 01:28:41,830 stay clean. 2140 01:28:41,840 --> 01:28:43,120 Well, if you're open to a friendly 2141 01:28:43,120 --> 01:28:44,960 amendment, I would just suggest adding 2142 01:28:44,960 --> 01:28:47,040 something like this wasn't that wouldn't 2143 01:28:47,040 --> 01:28:50,480 prevent use under the other policy that 2144 01:28:50,480 --> 01:28:54,239 we have as because when I read this just 2145 01:28:54,239 --> 01:28:56,960 at its face value, it it doesn't look 2146 01:28:56,960 --> 01:28:59,120 like anyone can really get into the 2147 01:28:59,120 --> 01:29:01,600 building without written. 2148 01:29:01,600 --> 01:29:03,920 >> Well, it's going to be written. I mean, 2149 01:29:03,920 --> 01:29:05,040 >> okay. 2150 01:29:05,040 --> 01:29:09,199 >> Right. I mean if you're have a form 2151 01:29:09,199 --> 01:29:10,960 >> well it says the employee. So in this 2152 01:29:10,960 --> 01:29:16,080 case like it's not an employee it's it's the community that is requested 2153 01:29:16,080 --> 01:29:19,199 community use under our other policy and 2154 01:29:19,199 --> 01:29:20,639 this says you can only get it if you 2155 01:29:20,639 --> 01:29:23,040 have an employee has received written 2156 01:29:23,040 --> 01:29:26,149 communication. 2157 01:29:26,159 --> 01:29:27,840 I don't know. I'm just asking please 2158 01:29:27,840 --> 01:29:29,520 read please read the other policy read 2159 01:29:29,520 --> 01:29:30,960 this one and just make sure they can 2160 01:29:30,960 --> 01:29:32,639 coexist 2161 01:29:32,639 --> 01:29:34,800 because it's really 2162 01:29:34,800 --> 01:29:36,080 for the public be able to use our 2163 01:29:36,080 --> 01:29:38,480 buildings for these like rec center 2164 01:29:38,480 --> 01:29:40,719 volleyball rec center you know travel 2165 01:29:40,719 --> 01:29:42,639 basketball all these other things would 2166 01:29:42,639 --> 01:29:44,960 just hate to see that go away because 2167 01:29:44,960 --> 01:29:47,199 someone passed a policy inadvertently to 2168 01:29:47,199 --> 01:29:50,320 prevent it or to deny it. Well, we can 2169 01:29:50,320 --> 01:29:51,840 certainly take it back to policy 2170 01:29:51,840 --> 01:29:55,360 committee next month and just just tweak 2171 01:29:55,360 --> 01:29:59,920 it a little bit. All right. Thank you. 2172 01:29:59,920 --> 01:30:02,239 >> Are we ready to vote? 2173 01:30:02,239 --> 01:30:04,560 All in favor of moving it to a second a 2174 01:30:04,560 --> 01:30:07,440 final reading. Sorry. Uh please say I or 2175 01:30:07,440 --> 01:30:09,280 raise your consume hand. 2176 01:30:09,280 --> 01:30:12,709 >> I 2177 01:30:12,719 --> 01:30:15,679 posted. 2178 01:30:15,679 --> 01:30:16,560 >> All right. 2179 01:30:16,560 --> 01:30:20,159 >> Okay. Second one for uh second reading 2180 01:30:20,159 --> 01:30:21,760 is 2181 01:30:21,760 --> 01:30:24,400 complicated post issues tax compliance 2182 01:30:24,400 --> 01:30:26,080 policy and procedures which is a 2183 01:30:26,080 --> 01:30:28,880 detailed policy over 10 pages long to 2184 01:30:28,880 --> 01:30:31,840 basically how we handle um compliance 2185 01:30:31,840 --> 01:30:33,760 with tax exempt bonds. It was 2186 01:30:33,760 --> 01:30:36,159 recommended or referred to us by Jim and 2187 01:30:36,159 --> 01:30:38,400 then reviewed by by Jim Fen and reviewed 2188 01:30:38,400 --> 01:30:41,360 by Mary Henry as well. Um, again, we're 2189 01:30:41,360 --> 01:30:45,520 asking for uh for um an adoption reading 2190 01:30:45,520 --> 01:30:49,040 next month on October. 2191 01:30:49,040 --> 01:30:51,520 >> So, 2192 01:30:51,520 --> 01:30:54,159 is there a second? 2193 01:30:54,159 --> 01:30:55,520 >> Tina, thank you. Is there any 2194 01:30:55,520 --> 01:30:59,510 discussion? 2195 01:30:59,520 --> 01:31:01,920 All right. All those in favor of of 2196 01:31:01,920 --> 01:31:04,400 moving this to a final vote in the next 2197 01:31:04,400 --> 01:31:08,159 meeting, please say I. I. I. 2198 01:31:08,159 --> 01:31:12,880 >> Any opposed? Any abstaining? 2199 01:31:12,880 --> 01:31:16,239 All right. Thank you. And uh now we're 2200 01:31:16,239 --> 01:31:17,840 looking at adoption. 2201 01:31:17,840 --> 01:31:19,520 >> Right. And the third one that we're 2202 01:31:19,520 --> 01:31:21,760 doing is for adoption is the pets on 2203 01:31:21,760 --> 01:31:23,679 campus policy. We've discussed this two 2204 01:31:23,679 --> 01:31:27,199 other times. We've had um several have 2205 01:31:27,199 --> 01:31:29,600 several opportunities for public 2206 01:31:29,600 --> 01:31:32,480 comment. And basically the idea is that 2207 01:31:32,480 --> 01:31:34,080 um 2208 01:31:34,080 --> 01:31:37,920 since we've had uh rules for uh leash 2209 01:31:37,920 --> 01:31:41,040 laws and collect waste, but we wanted to 2210 01:31:41,040 --> 01:31:42,800 uh further this to have a note that's on 2211 01:31:42,800 --> 01:31:45,280 campus policy and that's where we are. 2212 01:31:45,280 --> 01:31:47,520 And at this point we are recommending 2213 01:31:47,520 --> 01:31:50,400 that beer asking for a motion to have it 2214 01:31:50,400 --> 01:31:53,120 approved at this meeting for adoption. 2215 01:31:53,120 --> 01:31:55,840 >> And I and I was asked to speak with um 2216 01:31:55,840 --> 01:31:58,400 Kevin Nunan who is our lead grounds 2217 01:31:58,400 --> 01:32:01,600 person. He said the impact has been 2218 01:32:01,600 --> 01:32:04,239 significant and we don't have way of 2219 01:32:04,239 --> 01:32:06,000 measuring statistically but his 2220 01:32:06,000 --> 01:32:08,000 experience compared to previous summers 2221 01:32:08,000 --> 01:32:10,560 it's been significantly it's not perfect 2222 01:32:10,560 --> 01:32:12,800 but it's much better than it ever was in 2223 01:32:12,800 --> 01:32:14,800 terms of control and one recommendation 2224 01:32:14,800 --> 01:32:16,480 I have for Kevin is that we have larger 2225 01:32:16,480 --> 01:32:19,199 signs the signs are pretty small but he 2226 01:32:19,199 --> 01:32:21,360 even with what we have in place there's 2227 01:32:21,360 --> 01:32:24,080 been a significant reduction in the 2228 01:32:24,080 --> 01:32:27,360 amount of pet waste on campus 2229 01:32:27,360 --> 01:32:28,800 >> with what we have 2230 01:32:28,800 --> 01:32:30,719 with this analysis. 2231 01:32:30,719 --> 01:32:33,679 >> Well, the policy was announced, so 2232 01:32:33,679 --> 01:32:35,600 >> Well, 2233 01:32:35,600 --> 01:32:38,320 sorry to be picky, but the signs went up 2234 01:32:38,320 --> 01:32:41,440 before the policy was passed. 2235 01:32:41,440 --> 01:32:43,840 And that just rubs me the wrong way. 2236 01:32:43,840 --> 01:32:44,800 >> Yeah. 2237 01:32:44,800 --> 01:32:47,280 >> Why did all the signs go up on campus 2238 01:32:47,280 --> 01:32:50,560 before the policy was passed? 2239 01:32:50,560 --> 01:32:52,080 >> Because buildings and ground wanted to 2240 01:32:52,080 --> 01:32:53,840 clear them up. They should have waited 2241 01:32:53,840 --> 01:32:56,639 till the policy was passed. But they're 2242 01:32:56,639 --> 01:32:58,800 all over campus now. I'm just 2243 01:32:58,800 --> 01:33:03,189 procedurally that just 2244 01:33:03,199 --> 01:33:07,590 why 2245 01:33:07,600 --> 01:33:09,040 unfortunately I don't think we have any 2246 01:33:09,040 --> 01:33:12,719 buildings and grounds here tonight to 2247 01:33:12,719 --> 01:33:15,360 speak to that. 2248 01:33:15,360 --> 01:33:17,440 But the policy was asked and requested 2249 01:33:17,440 --> 01:33:25,189 by Joe and Browns. 2250 01:33:25,199 --> 01:33:27,280 Yeah, I don't think any of them are here 2251 01:33:27,280 --> 01:33:31,110 tonight. 2252 01:33:31,120 --> 01:33:33,199 Any other comments? 2253 01:33:33,199 --> 01:33:36,960 What what is um what is the consequence 2254 01:33:36,960 --> 01:33:39,360 or what happens if you somebody violates 2255 01:33:39,360 --> 01:33:41,440 this policy? What how are we handling 2256 01:33:41,440 --> 01:33:44,880 this? Who's responsible for that? 2257 01:33:44,880 --> 01:33:47,199 We approach people when we see them on 2258 01:33:47,199 --> 01:33:49,520 campus whether they've had and we ask 2259 01:33:49,520 --> 01:33:53,120 them to leave a pet. There is no fine. 2260 01:33:53,120 --> 01:33:55,360 There's no recourse. Though we've had 2261 01:33:55,360 --> 01:33:57,920 individuals who on multiple occasions 2262 01:33:57,920 --> 01:33:59,600 have been asked and still return the 2263 01:33:59,600 --> 01:34:01,840 pet. Um in the summertime that's a 2264 01:34:01,840 --> 01:34:04,239 Woodstock violation having a pet in a 2265 01:34:04,239 --> 01:34:08,320 car. Um and so we've had to inform 2266 01:34:08,320 --> 01:34:10,159 individuals that if they continue to 2267 01:34:10,159 --> 01:34:11,600 bring their pet and leave them in a 2268 01:34:11,600 --> 01:34:14,320 vehicle, we would fall with stop police. 2269 01:34:14,320 --> 01:34:16,800 Um primarily when we've approached 2270 01:34:16,800 --> 01:34:18,480 people, and that's myself and Joe and 2271 01:34:18,480 --> 01:34:20,800 others, um people have been, you know, 2272 01:34:20,800 --> 01:34:22,719 said they were unaware and have not 2273 01:34:22,719 --> 01:34:25,199 returned to their pets. So it it we 2274 01:34:25,199 --> 01:34:26,960 haven't I've asked a number of people. I 2275 01:34:26,960 --> 01:34:29,360 know Joe and Kevin and Keith and you 2276 01:34:29,360 --> 01:34:30,880 know, we've really tried to start from 2277 01:34:30,880 --> 01:34:32,320 an educational point of view and most 2278 01:34:32,320 --> 01:34:34,000 people have been very respectful. We've 2279 01:34:34,000 --> 01:34:37,040 only had one situation where we had an 2280 01:34:37,040 --> 01:34:39,120 individual who continue with their pet 2281 01:34:39,120 --> 01:34:40,719 and leave them in a car during the 2282 01:34:40,719 --> 01:34:41,360 summer time. 2283 01:34:41,360 --> 01:34:43,199 >> So even if we ask them to leave with 2284 01:34:43,199 --> 01:34:44,800 their pet and they refuse, there's 2285 01:34:44,800 --> 01:34:47,679 really nothing like we can't there's 2286 01:34:47,679 --> 01:34:50,159 >> we're not in a position 2287 01:34:50,159 --> 01:34:52,480 but people I mean I and again from what 2288 01:34:52,480 --> 01:34:54,639 Kevin's reporting and his ground it's 2289 01:34:54,639 --> 01:34:58,159 really made an impact. I knew while it 2290 01:34:58,159 --> 01:34:59,840 the policy was not in place, their 2291 01:34:59,840 --> 01:35:03,440 intention mostly was there was so many 2292 01:35:03,440 --> 01:35:05,920 dog feces on the campus. It was having 2293 01:35:05,920 --> 01:35:08,480 sports and having tea. It was really a 2294 01:35:08,480 --> 01:35:11,760 health issue or um that they were 2295 01:35:11,760 --> 01:35:13,840 concerned about. 2296 01:35:13,840 --> 01:35:18,159 >> Um I'd like to share something. Um, do I 2297 01:35:18,159 --> 01:35:21,360 would it be more appropriate to um make 2298 01:35:21,360 --> 01:35:23,120 the motion, second the motion and have 2299 01:35:23,120 --> 01:35:25,040 discussion or should I uh share my 2300 01:35:25,040 --> 01:35:26,560 comments now? 2301 01:35:26,560 --> 01:35:28,880 >> I think we already we did not. Oh, we 2302 01:35:28,880 --> 01:35:29,120 did. 2303 01:35:29,120 --> 01:35:30,639 >> Let's get through the motion second 2304 01:35:30,639 --> 01:35:32,320 motion because I also have some more 2305 01:35:32,320 --> 01:35:33,840 comments. 2306 01:35:33,840 --> 01:35:35,199 >> All right. Would somebody like to make a 2307 01:35:35,199 --> 01:35:39,120 motion to adopt? 2308 01:35:39,120 --> 01:35:43,040 So move. Thank you, Lara. Any second? 2309 01:35:43,040 --> 01:35:44,880 >> Yeah, I'll second. 2310 01:35:44,880 --> 01:35:46,639 >> Thank you. 2311 01:35:46,639 --> 01:35:48,719 Hela, you plan to say 2312 01:35:48,719 --> 01:35:52,800 >> great. Um, thank you. Um, so I moved 2313 01:35:52,800 --> 01:35:56,239 back to Vermont in 2017. I came from a 2314 01:35:56,239 --> 01:35:57,920 I'd worked for 15 years in a school 2315 01:35:57,920 --> 01:36:00,000 district where there was a fence. Oh, 2316 01:36:00,000 --> 01:36:02,639 that campus also backed up to a river, 2317 01:36:02,639 --> 01:36:04,800 but there was a fence around the field, 2318 01:36:04,800 --> 01:36:06,960 so students couldn't access the river 2319 01:36:06,960 --> 01:36:10,480 and animals couldn't come in. 2320 01:36:10,480 --> 01:36:13,360 One time two deer jumped the fence and 2321 01:36:13,360 --> 01:36:15,120 were on the fields and we went into 2322 01:36:15,120 --> 01:36:18,000 lockdown because that's how worried 2323 01:36:18,000 --> 01:36:20,719 people were about any animal poop on the 2324 01:36:20,719 --> 01:36:24,149 grounds. 2325 01:36:24,159 --> 01:36:26,000 Really happy to move back to Vermont in 2326 01:36:26,000 --> 01:36:29,679 2017, served four years as principal in 2327 01:36:29,679 --> 01:36:32,159 uh what is now Mountain Views. And 2328 01:36:32,159 --> 01:36:35,199 during my second week on the job, I 2329 01:36:35,199 --> 01:36:38,000 called Peg Debella into my office and I 2330 01:36:38,000 --> 01:36:42,159 said, "Peg, call security. There's a dog 2331 01:36:42,159 --> 01:36:45,760 in the field." Peg came in, said, 2332 01:36:45,760 --> 01:36:48,400 "Heather, there's no security and the 2333 01:36:48,400 --> 01:36:52,320 dog's fine." And I knew I was back where 2334 01:36:52,320 --> 01:36:55,440 I needed to be. You have people who come 2335 01:36:55,440 --> 01:36:58,480 here from rural areas because they want 2336 01:36:58,480 --> 01:37:01,360 to be near friendly dogs. And I can tell 2337 01:37:01,360 --> 01:37:03,520 you if you get rid of the friendly dogs, 2338 01:37:03,520 --> 01:37:09,910 the geese will come and geese also poop. 2339 01:37:09,920 --> 01:37:13,119 My second matter is I believe this is 2340 01:37:13,119 --> 01:37:15,920 management and not governance. This 2341 01:37:15,920 --> 01:37:18,320 should be a safe and healthy schools 2342 01:37:18,320 --> 01:37:20,880 policy with putting the management of 2343 01:37:20,880 --> 01:37:23,440 how we keep our grounds clean enough for 2344 01:37:23,440 --> 01:37:25,520 children to play on in the hands of 2345 01:37:25,520 --> 01:37:28,400 management. 2346 01:37:28,400 --> 01:37:31,520 Thank you for considering my comments. 2347 01:37:31,520 --> 01:37:34,320 >> Thank you, Heather. 2348 01:37:34,320 --> 01:37:34,880 Matt. 2349 01:37:34,880 --> 01:37:37,679 >> Um, yeah. So, I I voted against last 2350 01:37:37,679 --> 01:37:41,600 time and I plan to do so again. The uh I 2351 01:37:41,600 --> 01:37:43,440 acknowledge that the issue is real and 2352 01:37:43,440 --> 01:37:45,119 that certain buildings and ground 2353 01:37:45,119 --> 01:37:49,199 members have told us that on certain 2354 01:37:49,199 --> 01:37:51,760 athletic fields they've had complaints. 2355 01:37:51,760 --> 01:37:55,119 Um, so I think that we could have 2356 01:37:55,119 --> 01:38:00,000 handled it a little bit differently. We still can we could um we could make 2357 01:38:00,000 --> 01:38:01,920 it very specific to say the football 2358 01:38:01,920 --> 01:38:06,639 field or the varsity soccer field or the practice fields. This policy is 2359 01:38:06,639 --> 01:38:08,960 written covering 100% of the property we 2360 01:38:08,960 --> 01:38:11,199 own in our district like and any any any 2361 01:38:11,199 --> 01:38:13,360 and every school whether it's west or 2362 01:38:13,360 --> 01:38:16,400 proper rally or barnard uh or reading 2363 01:38:16,400 --> 01:38:18,080 and I've you know I push on a lot of the 2364 01:38:18,080 --> 01:38:22,239 fields including here and um uh and then 2365 01:38:22,239 --> 01:38:25,920 prop the rally and I've ne never come 2366 01:38:25,920 --> 01:38:28,000 across it. So this the the source is 2367 01:38:28,000 --> 01:38:30,480 coming from the staff who have to deal 2368 01:38:30,480 --> 01:38:32,400 with it. And I get it like that's not a 2369 01:38:32,400 --> 01:38:36,000 fun job, but the source is biased. And 2370 01:38:36,000 --> 01:38:38,560 so you got to kind of like get I think a 2371 01:38:38,560 --> 01:38:40,159 little bit more input on like how big of 2372 01:38:40,159 --> 01:38:42,400 a problem is this really and on what 2373 01:38:42,400 --> 01:38:44,960 fields and could we have approached it 2374 01:38:44,960 --> 01:38:47,600 in a way where it was like we put up the 2375 01:38:47,600 --> 01:38:49,840 signs on those fields saying you know no 2376 01:38:49,840 --> 01:38:51,840 pets on this football field where we 2377 01:38:51,840 --> 01:38:53,520 have the signs, we put up the bags, we 2378 01:38:53,520 --> 01:38:56,639 put up the take your own waste. Um, so 2379 01:38:56,639 --> 01:39:00,239 that's that's my two cents. Um, I I 2380 01:39:00,239 --> 01:39:02,080 think it'd be a shame if the public lost 2381 01:39:02,080 --> 01:39:04,400 the ability to to come on our campuses 2382 01:39:04,400 --> 01:39:08,470 with their pets. 2383 01:39:08,480 --> 01:39:13,669 » Anybody from Josh? 2384 01:39:13,679 --> 01:39:15,040 » Well, I'm just going to put this into 2385 01:39:15,040 --> 01:39:17,280 perspective, and this is because I work 2386 01:39:17,280 --> 01:39:19,119 for the state. 2387 01:39:19,119 --> 01:39:22,159 We have dogs that are allowed to come on 2388 01:39:22,159 --> 01:39:24,320 to any of our state facilities on the 2389 01:39:24,320 --> 01:39:27,119 any of the state lawns and there's 2390 01:39:27,119 --> 01:39:28,480 nothing that can be done about it. That 2391 01:39:28,480 --> 01:39:30,080 is the freedom that comes with it being 2392 01:39:30,080 --> 01:39:32,159 a public property. The same as what ours 2393 01:39:32,159 --> 01:39:37,910 is. 2394 01:39:37,920 --> 01:39:42,000 » Thank you, Josh. Anybody else? 2395 01:39:42,000 --> 01:39:47,520 >> I'll just put my hat in the ring that I also feel that just going way 2396 01:39:47,520 --> 01:39:50,480 overboard. I I hear the concern, but I 2397 01:39:50,480 --> 01:39:53,840 think the response to it is not 2398 01:39:53,840 --> 01:39:57,360 appropriate and and 2399 01:39:57,360 --> 01:40:00,000 way too across the board. And I, you 2400 01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:02,719 know, we weren't I'm not on the policy 2401 01:40:02,719 --> 01:40:06,000 committee and I didn't view uh any 2402 01:40:06,000 --> 01:40:08,560 videos or the minutes to see what was 2403 01:40:08,560 --> 01:40:10,480 presented. I I'm hearing what was 2404 01:40:10,480 --> 01:40:14,880 presented and that is an issue. Um but 2405 01:40:14,880 --> 01:40:20,870 it it just it strikes me as um 2406 01:40:20,880 --> 01:40:22,560 it would be really disappointing to the 2407 01:40:22,560 --> 01:40:24,480 community that it's one of the public 2408 01:40:24,480 --> 01:40:26,480 spaces right in your community that you 2409 01:40:26,480 --> 01:40:28,560 can go with your family or maybe with 2410 01:40:28,560 --> 01:40:32,560 your dog and and um I mean I like Mac's 2411 01:40:32,560 --> 01:40:35,199 idea that it's like yeah there's you 2412 01:40:35,199 --> 01:40:38,000 know sports field in particular 2413 01:40:38,000 --> 01:40:39,840 um and and you know there's already 2414 01:40:39,840 --> 01:40:42,719 signage up we could put the signage is 2415 01:40:42,719 --> 01:40:44,960 doing the the work. Let's let's put the 2416 01:40:44,960 --> 01:40:47,199 science where it needs to do the work. 2417 01:40:47,199 --> 01:40:51,199 Um and you know take that approach. Um 2418 01:40:51,199 --> 01:40:54,239 the policy seems a little bit 2419 01:40:54,239 --> 01:40:57,440 too wide ranging. 2420 01:40:57,440 --> 01:41:00,400 >> I have a question of no like intention 2421 01:41:00,400 --> 01:41:01,679 one way or the other, but I'm just 2422 01:41:01,679 --> 01:41:03,360 curious since the signs have been put 2423 01:41:03,360 --> 01:41:05,520 up, has there been like a noticeable 2424 01:41:05,520 --> 01:41:06,639 decrease? 2425 01:41:06,639 --> 01:41:08,480 >> Okay. 2426 01:41:08,480 --> 01:41:09,840 I'm going to comment on that 2427 01:41:09,840 --> 01:41:12,159 because at the football game on Friday, 2428 01:41:12,159 --> 01:41:13,840 there were multiple people who had dogs 2429 01:41:13,840 --> 01:41:16,000 with them and came to the football game. 2430 01:41:16,000 --> 01:41:19,600 And so I don't know this idea that we 2431 01:41:19,600 --> 01:41:22,159 have evidence of a decrease. I'm hearing 2432 01:41:22,159 --> 01:41:25,440 it said. I don't see actual evidence 2433 01:41:25,440 --> 01:41:27,760 that there's been a decrease 2434 01:41:27,760 --> 01:41:31,440 um just because of the signs. But I I 2435 01:41:31,440 --> 01:41:35,119 did observe that there it is very very 2436 01:41:35,119 --> 01:41:40,400 awkward for your staff to handle uh pe 2437 01:41:40,400 --> 01:41:42,000 the public who come to the football game 2438 01:41:42,000 --> 01:41:44,000 with with their pets and like so I'm 2439 01:41:44,000 --> 01:41:45,679 just wondering how it will be enforced 2440 01:41:45,679 --> 01:41:49,600 and like you said what are we calling 2441 01:41:49,600 --> 01:41:51,600 the police every time someone comes on 2442 01:41:51,600 --> 01:41:53,360 campus with a dog? Are we going to ask 2443 01:41:53,360 --> 01:41:56,639 our staff to 2444 01:41:56,639 --> 01:41:58,320 like how are we how are we enforcing 2445 01:41:58,320 --> 01:41:59,280 this 2446 01:41:59,280 --> 01:42:01,600 >> during conversation? I think in we can 2447 01:42:01,600 --> 01:42:04,960 invite Keith I mean Kevin Nunan who's 2448 01:42:04,960 --> 01:42:08,080 been on part of our grounds crew for a 2449 01:42:08,080 --> 01:42:09,920 long time. I think it's really important 2450 01:42:09,920 --> 01:42:12,960 to have that perspective as well as our 2451 01:42:12,960 --> 01:42:14,880 building principles. They're the ones 2452 01:42:14,880 --> 01:42:16,800 that are out there. I mean this is not 2453 01:42:16,800 --> 01:42:18,400 just a Hillsville high school issue. 2454 01:42:18,400 --> 01:42:21,679 There are campuses where we've had 2455 01:42:21,679 --> 01:42:24,080 found dog feces on the middle of a 2456 01:42:24,080 --> 01:42:26,400 playground multiple times week after 2457 01:42:26,400 --> 01:42:29,840 week. And so if you want more to come in 2458 01:42:29,840 --> 01:42:32,159 principles and and our buildings around 2459 01:42:32,159 --> 01:42:34,000 people to speak to what that is, I think 2460 01:42:34,000 --> 01:42:35,840 that's really important. It's a public 2461 01:42:35,840 --> 01:42:38,480 health issue. This is while I know this 2462 01:42:38,480 --> 01:42:40,960 is taxpayer this is not public property 2463 01:42:40,960 --> 01:42:43,360 like a park or the cemetery. We have 2464 01:42:43,360 --> 01:42:45,199 students here with responsibility for 2465 01:42:45,199 --> 01:42:47,760 their health and safety. Um, I know 2466 01:42:47,760 --> 01:42:49,840 this. My son worked to be the grounds 2467 01:42:49,840 --> 01:42:52,320 crew one summer and the number of times 2468 01:42:52,320 --> 01:42:54,880 we wacking he would come out covered in 2469 01:42:54,880 --> 01:42:57,920 dog pieces because people pick up and 2470 01:42:57,920 --> 01:42:59,679 then they throw it and the kids who are 2471 01:42:59,679 --> 01:43:01,679 playing sports or chasing after lacrosse 2472 01:43:01,679 --> 01:43:05,040 ball chasing after baseball 2473 01:43:05,040 --> 01:43:06,960 helpful. If you want Kevin to speak, he 2474 01:43:06,960 --> 01:43:08,960 can. You want building principles to 2475 01:43:08,960 --> 01:43:10,880 speak, they can too because they're 2476 01:43:10,880 --> 01:43:13,440 experiencing it in playground duty and 2477 01:43:13,440 --> 01:43:16,480 seeing what happens on campuses. So, um, 2478 01:43:16,480 --> 01:43:19,360 I'm a dog person. We we often had Carrie 2479 01:43:19,360 --> 01:43:21,040 would bring her dog into this building. 2480 01:43:21,040 --> 01:43:24,000 We'd love I mean, it's not an anti- dog 2481 01:43:24,000 --> 01:43:26,239 conversation. It's around the And we 2482 01:43:26,239 --> 01:43:27,840 have children who are really afraid of 2483 01:43:27,840 --> 01:43:30,159 dogs and families that are afraid of 2484 01:43:30,159 --> 01:43:31,920 dogs. And so, I think there's a 2485 01:43:31,920 --> 01:43:33,920 sensitivity. That's not my experience, 2486 01:43:33,920 --> 01:43:35,760 but I know we had an individual in this 2487 01:43:35,760 --> 01:43:37,920 building who was really afraid of dogs. 2488 01:43:37,920 --> 01:43:39,760 So, we start bringing our dogs into this 2489 01:43:39,760 --> 01:43:42,639 building. So, I think there's there's 2490 01:43:42,639 --> 01:43:44,719 that part of it that I think needs to be 2491 01:43:44,719 --> 01:43:46,800 represented as well. 2492 01:43:46,800 --> 01:43:48,320 >> All good points. So, I just think we got 2493 01:43:48,320 --> 01:43:50,480 to vote and if it if it passes, it 2494 01:43:50,480 --> 01:43:52,159 passes. If it fails, then maybe we bring 2495 01:43:52,159 --> 01:43:53,440 in more 2496 01:43:53,440 --> 01:43:55,440 >> more more voices. 2497 01:43:55,440 --> 01:43:57,280 >> Wonder if someone from building because 2498 01:43:57,280 --> 01:43:58,639 this was brought to us by building a 2499 01:43:58,639 --> 01:44:02,639 grand committee. Um, we didn't and 2500 01:44:02,639 --> 01:44:05,496 >> we could also table it. 2501 01:44:05,496 --> 01:44:06,239 [snorts] 2502 01:44:06,239 --> 01:44:08,800 >> Just one more question. Sorry. Is are 2503 01:44:08,800 --> 01:44:10,639 the people that are like not cleaning up 2504 01:44:10,639 --> 01:44:12,320 after their dogs also the people that 2505 01:44:12,320 --> 01:44:13,920 are now seeing the don't bring your dog 2506 01:44:13,920 --> 01:44:15,360 signs and leaving? 2507 01:44:15,360 --> 01:44:16,159 >> We don't know. 2508 01:44:16,159 --> 01:44:18,639 >> Okay, that's a good question. No. 2509 01:44:18,639 --> 01:44:21,440 >> Well, one would imagine if the dog poop 2510 01:44:21,440 --> 01:44:23,920 is in the middle of a playing field that 2511 01:44:23,920 --> 01:44:25,199 it's not the people who are bringing 2512 01:44:25,199 --> 01:44:27,119 their dogs to watch the game cuz they're 2513 01:44:27,119 --> 01:44:29,440 not on the field at that time. So, I 2514 01:44:29,440 --> 01:44:31,679 would imagine it's folks walking their 2515 01:44:31,679 --> 01:44:37,430 dogs on weekends or whatever. 2516 01:44:37,440 --> 01:44:41,040 Uh, would there be a motion to table it? 2517 01:44:41,040 --> 01:44:45,280 I'm gonna make a motion to table it. 2518 01:44:45,280 --> 01:44:48,800 >> Can you Can you do that with a 2519 01:44:48,800 --> 01:44:52,390 >> uh question 2520 01:44:52,400 --> 01:44:53,600 and chair? 2521 01:44:53,600 --> 01:44:57,189 >> Um, 2522 01:44:57,199 --> 01:45:01,280 I think they need to 2523 01:45:01,280 --> 01:45:05,600 >> Yeah. Amend the motion. 2524 01:45:05,600 --> 01:45:09,840 >> Yeah. No, they can imagine. 2525 01:45:09,840 --> 01:45:13,920 >> I think it was you. I amend my motion 2526 01:45:13,920 --> 01:45:17,830 and table it. 2527 01:45:17,840 --> 01:45:18,480 » Is there a second? 2528 01:45:18,480 --> 01:45:19,760 >> I second. 2529 01:45:19,760 --> 01:45:21,760 >> I'll second it. 2530 01:45:21,760 --> 01:45:25,119 >> Right. Ryan seconded. All in favor of 2531 01:45:25,119 --> 01:45:27,360 tableling it for another meeting, please 2532 01:45:27,360 --> 01:45:32,390 say I. I. 2533 01:45:32,400 --> 01:45:34,320 » Any opposed? 2534 01:45:34,320 --> 01:45:36,800 Any abstaining? 2535 01:45:36,800 --> 01:45:39,040 All right, we have reached tablet until 2536 01:45:39,040 --> 01:45:41,760 we have more information. 2537 01:45:41,760 --> 01:45:47,669 Thank you. 2538 01:45:47,679 --> 01:45:50,320 » Uh, buildings and grounds committee. Is 2539 01:45:50,320 --> 01:45:52,400 anyone here to speak to buildings and 2540 01:45:52,400 --> 01:45:57,669 grounds? 2541 01:45:57,679 --> 01:46:00,080 Okay. Uh, negotiations, hiring and 2542 01:46:00,080 --> 01:46:02,719 retention committee. Currently I'm a 2543 01:46:02,719 --> 01:46:06,480 member of it as well as Brian. Um we 2544 01:46:06,480 --> 01:46:08,560 really need at least one more person to 2545 01:46:08,560 --> 01:46:12,560 join us. U often Ryan has coaching um 2546 01:46:12,560 --> 01:46:14,719 obligations at the times that we meet. 2547 01:46:14,719 --> 01:46:16,719 We usually meet in the the later 2548 01:46:16,719 --> 01:46:19,760 afternoon. Um we're going to have a big 2549 01:46:19,760 --> 01:46:23,199 job this year with both uh the ESP and 2550 01:46:23,199 --> 01:46:26,000 the assist staff going forward with 2551 01:46:26,000 --> 01:46:28,800 negotiations. um they are ready to start 2552 01:46:28,800 --> 01:46:32,880 meeting um and so um we're gathering 2553 01:46:32,880 --> 01:46:35,600 information from the board side uh 2554 01:46:35,600 --> 01:46:38,080 thankfully through Mary and other things 2555 01:46:38,080 --> 01:46:40,560 that we have from past negotiations but 2556 01:46:40,560 --> 01:46:42,639 I really need to have one more person 2557 01:46:42,639 --> 01:46:46,159 because I cannot foresee being the only 2558 01:46:46,159 --> 01:46:48,480 person in the room on the days that Ryan 2559 01:46:48,480 --> 01:46:50,560 rightfully can't be there 2560 01:46:50,560 --> 01:46:52,320 >> what is the commitment like what do you 2561 01:46:52,320 --> 01:46:53,360 meet monthly 2562 01:46:53,360 --> 01:46:55,760 >> no we meet 2563 01:46:55,760 --> 01:46:58,080 >> in the beginning um twice a month 2564 01:46:58,080 --> 01:47:00,560 probably and then as we see where things 2565 01:47:00,560 --> 01:47:05,360 are going we may have uh like a separate 2566 01:47:05,360 --> 01:47:08,239 meeting with each group some we'll start 2567 01:47:08,239 --> 01:47:13,600 together with both groups and then it it could go for it could [clears throat] 2568 01:47:13,600 --> 01:47:17,600 go really slowly but I would anticipate 2569 01:47:17,600 --> 01:47:19,920 two to three weeks apart just to keep 2570 01:47:19,920 --> 01:47:21,440 the momentum up 2571 01:47:21,440 --> 01:47:24,080 >> and if you can't be in person is it a 2572 01:47:24,080 --> 01:47:28,950 situation do 2573 01:47:28,960 --> 01:47:32,000 So I mean uh we can we can talk about 2574 01:47:32,000 --> 01:47:34,320 the timing of things but they like to do 2575 01:47:34,320 --> 01:47:38,000 it around 4 um just because some some of 2576 01:47:38,000 --> 01:47:40,000 them are here some of them drive here 2577 01:47:40,000 --> 01:47:42,719 say Killington and we try to be in 2578 01:47:42,719 --> 01:47:45,760 person when we have me um but it doesn't 2579 01:47:45,760 --> 01:47:49,360 always work for everyone. Ryan. 2580 01:47:49,360 --> 01:47:53,440 >> Yeah, I was just chiming in to uh le 2581 01:47:53,440 --> 01:47:55,600 Lisa. What I found in previous 2582 01:47:55,600 --> 01:47:57,199 negotiations is the first several 2583 01:47:57,199 --> 01:48:00,000 meetings are relatively mundane and 2584 01:48:00,000 --> 01:48:03,520 straightforward, but as negotiations get 2585 01:48:03,520 --> 01:48:05,679 further down the line, the meetings can 2586 01:48:05,679 --> 01:48:09,119 go hours sometimes and like much longer. 2587 01:48:09,119 --> 01:48:11,760 So, it's just something to plan ahead on 2588 01:48:11,760 --> 01:48:12,960 if that's something you're looking to 2589 01:48:12,960 --> 01:48:16,950 join or whatnot. 2590 01:48:16,960 --> 01:48:19,679 sell it. [laughter] 2591 01:48:19,679 --> 01:48:21,440 >> Well, no, that I'm just saying like that 2592 01:48:21,440 --> 01:48:22,719 was my problem. I didn't mind the 2593 01:48:22,719 --> 01:48:25,360 meetings, but then you know I some of 2594 01:48:25,360 --> 01:48:28,639 them go a long time. So, 2595 01:48:28,639 --> 01:48:31,440 >> yes. So, yeah. And I think it's going to 2596 01:48:31,440 --> 01:48:33,760 be a challenging negotiations round 2597 01:48:33,760 --> 01:48:36,800 quite honestly because of the situation 2598 01:48:36,800 --> 01:48:38,480 that the finance committee has 2599 01:48:38,480 --> 01:48:43,760 described. So, please somebody help me. 2600 01:48:43,760 --> 01:48:47,600 I I we can't you know Brian and I cannot 2601 01:48:47,600 --> 01:48:49,199 do it by ourselves. We need a third 2602 01:48:49,199 --> 01:48:49,920 person. 2603 01:48:49,920 --> 01:48:52,639 >> Yeah. And Carrie's doing the merger and 2604 01:48:52,639 --> 01:48:54,880 attending policy and attending. 2605 01:48:54,880 --> 01:48:58,159 >> Yeah. There's a lot 2606 01:48:58,159 --> 01:48:59,920 student do that or is that a 2607 01:48:59,920 --> 01:49:02,560 >> I don't think so. Yeah. Because it's 2608 01:49:02,560 --> 01:49:03,119 money. 2609 01:49:03,119 --> 01:49:05,600 >> Yeah. 2610 01:49:05,600 --> 01:49:10,470 >> Be in charge of money 2611 01:49:10,480 --> 01:49:12,639 but yourself. 2612 01:49:12,639 --> 01:49:15,199 >> All right. Um, are there any other 2613 01:49:15,199 --> 01:49:16,719 working groups that would like to speak 2614 01:49:16,719 --> 01:49:18,239 tonight? 2615 01:49:18,239 --> 01:49:21,600 >> Yes. Um, it's I'm honored to represent 2616 01:49:21,600 --> 01:49:24,000 uh Seth Webb. 2617 01:49:24,000 --> 01:49:29,440 Um, who uh as as most of us know is the 2618 01:49:29,440 --> 01:49:32,960 chair of our MDSU schoolboard rebuild 2619 01:49:32,960 --> 01:49:36,000 working group. He's he's not able to 2620 01:49:36,000 --> 01:49:38,960 come, but he prepared a very complete 2621 01:49:38,960 --> 01:49:40,800 report and I'd like to read that 2622 01:49:40,800 --> 01:49:44,000 completely into the record. 2623 01:49:44,000 --> 01:49:47,280 So Seth begins, "As I'm unable to attend 2624 01:49:47,280 --> 01:49:50,560 Monday's meeting, I'm writing to update 2625 01:49:50,560 --> 01:49:54,480 you on where we stand with the rebuild. 2626 01:49:54,480 --> 01:49:58,239 This memo outlines number one, the 2627 01:49:58,239 --> 01:50:01,119 status of the rebuild related to funding 2628 01:50:01,119 --> 01:50:04,800 and final approval, and two, recent 2629 01:50:04,800 --> 01:50:07,840 feedback from the agency of education 2630 01:50:07,840 --> 01:50:11,280 and our legislative delegation. 2631 01:50:11,280 --> 01:50:15,119 and three, possible federal funding and 2632 01:50:15,119 --> 01:50:18,480 four other next steps. 2633 01:50:18,480 --> 01:50:22,719 Number one, status of the rebuild. To 2634 01:50:22,719 --> 01:50:26,000 date, we have secured nearly 80% funding 2635 01:50:26,000 --> 01:50:29,920 needed for the rebuild parenthesis 90 2636 01:50:29,920 --> 01:50:33,199 million of the 112 million in 2637 01:50:33,199 --> 01:50:36,560 parenthesis via the vote bond in March 2638 01:50:36,560 --> 01:50:38,800 and private fundraising. 2639 01:50:38,800 --> 01:50:42,000 And the new state school construction 2640 01:50:42,000 --> 01:50:45,040 program notes that we should be eligible 2641 01:50:45,040 --> 01:50:49,040 for state assistance for 30% costs. 2642 01:50:49,040 --> 01:50:52,400 That's 10% more than we need. The 2643 01:50:52,400 --> 01:50:55,280 challenge is that the legislature has 2644 01:50:55,280 --> 01:50:58,560 not funded the program and the agency of 2645 01:50:58,560 --> 01:51:01,920 education has not created the rules to 2646 01:51:01,920 --> 01:51:05,040 administer it. But we are aggressively 2647 01:51:05,040 --> 01:51:07,600 seeking both administrative and 2648 01:51:07,600 --> 01:51:10,480 legislative solutions to allow us to 2649 01:51:10,480 --> 01:51:14,800 begin building in 2027 before costs rise 2650 01:51:14,800 --> 01:51:17,360 and conditions worsen. 2651 01:51:17,360 --> 01:51:20,320 Detailed follow. 2652 01:51:20,320 --> 01:51:23,440 Number two, request to agency of 2653 01:51:23,440 --> 01:51:26,320 education for final approval. 2654 01:51:26,320 --> 01:51:30,320 On July 17th, we requested that the 2655 01:51:30,320 --> 01:51:33,440 Agency of Education Secretary Zoe 2656 01:51:33,440 --> 01:51:36,080 Saunders provide final approval for our 2657 01:51:36,080 --> 01:51:39,280 project and grant in accordance with Act 2658 01:51:39,280 --> 01:51:43,679 170 contingent upon completion of agency 2659 01:51:43,679 --> 01:51:46,480 rule making and future legislative 2660 01:51:46,480 --> 01:51:48,400 appropriations. 2661 01:51:48,400 --> 01:51:52,080 This request creates no immediate 2662 01:51:52,080 --> 01:51:56,000 financial obligation for the state 2663 01:51:56,000 --> 01:51:59,199 while allowing the district to continue 2664 01:51:59,199 --> 01:52:02,400 responsible planning. 2665 01:52:02,400 --> 01:52:06,560 Secretary Saunders rejected our request 2666 01:52:06,560 --> 01:52:09,280 noting rule making should be done in 2667 01:52:09,280 --> 01:52:11,040 2028 2668 01:52:11,040 --> 01:52:13,280 i.e. not necessarily, 2669 01:52:13,280 --> 01:52:15,520 which would allow us to seek final 2670 01:52:15,520 --> 01:52:19,199 approval. Then unfortunately, a 2 to 2671 01:52:19,199 --> 01:52:22,159 threeyear delay in final approval could 2672 01:52:22,159 --> 01:52:24,880 cost Vermont taxpayers 2673 01:52:24,880 --> 01:52:27,840 approximately 35 million through 2674 01:52:27,840 --> 01:52:30,719 construction, inflation, additional 2675 01:52:30,719 --> 01:52:33,280 repairs to a building that will ultimat 2676 01:52:33,280 --> 01:52:35,920 ultimately be demolished, and 2677 01:52:35,920 --> 01:52:40,080 potentially emergency modular space. It 2678 01:52:40,080 --> 01:52:42,480 would also delay regional consolidation 2679 01:52:42,480 --> 01:52:44,239 efforts. 2680 01:52:44,239 --> 01:52:47,840 Number three, request for legislative 2681 01:52:47,840 --> 01:52:49,360 support. 2682 01:52:49,360 --> 01:52:53,599 On August 9th, we asked our legislative 2683 01:52:53,599 --> 01:52:57,440 delegation to appeal to the governor 2684 01:52:57,440 --> 01:53:00,639 requesting that he support a solution 2685 01:53:00,639 --> 01:53:03,679 that will allow the district to begin 2686 01:53:03,679 --> 01:53:07,589 building in 2027. 2687 01:53:07,599 --> 01:53:12,560 Senators Joe Major and Becca White and 2688 01:53:12,560 --> 01:53:15,920 Representatives Michael Hoy and Valerie 2689 01:53:15,920 --> 01:53:20,719 Taylor quickly signed on. 2690 01:53:20,719 --> 01:53:23,920 After several weeks, Senator Allison 2691 01:53:23,920 --> 01:53:26,719 Clarkson and Representative Charlie 2692 01:53:26,719 --> 01:53:30,400 Kimble informed us that they would not 2693 01:53:30,400 --> 01:53:35,270 sign on. 2694 01:53:35,280 --> 01:53:37,840 Needless to say, 2695 01:53:37,840 --> 01:53:40,080 Senator Clarkson and Representative 2696 01:53:40,080 --> 01:53:43,440 Kimble failure to sign on to a letter 2697 01:53:43,440 --> 01:53:46,320 that asks the governor 2698 01:53:46,320 --> 01:53:49,360 quote to support a solution that will 2699 01:53:49,360 --> 01:53:53,840 allow MVSu to build in 2027. 2700 01:53:53,840 --> 01:53:57,440 end quote is very disheartening as a 2701 01:53:57,440 --> 01:53:59,679 delay carries significant negative 2702 01:53:59,679 --> 01:54:03,040 consequences for our taxpayers and 2703 01:54:03,040 --> 01:54:04,960 students. 2704 01:54:04,960 --> 01:54:09,040 Not building in 2027 means we face 2705 01:54:09,040 --> 01:54:12,080 millions in increased costs and an 2706 01:54:12,080 --> 01:54:15,040 already challenging budget movement and 2707 01:54:15,040 --> 01:54:18,320 we unnecessarily subject students and 2708 01:54:18,320 --> 01:54:21,040 teachers to unsafe and unhealthy 2709 01:54:21,040 --> 01:54:22,800 conditions. 2710 01:54:22,800 --> 01:54:27,199 The only s silver lining, and this is to 2711 01:54:27,199 --> 01:54:29,119 his credit and our benefit, is 2712 01:54:29,119 --> 01:54:30,800 representative 2713 01:54:30,800 --> 01:54:33,599 Kimble stressing that stressing his 2714 01:54:33,599 --> 01:54:35,119 willingness to work with us on 2715 01:54:35,119 --> 01:54:38,800 legislation for the next session that 2716 01:54:38,800 --> 01:54:42,080 could have a positive impact. We intend 2717 01:54:42,080 --> 01:54:45,679 to work with him. Here are their 2718 01:54:45,679 --> 01:54:47,599 responses. 2719 01:54:47,599 --> 01:54:50,400 I have highlighted sections I found 2720 01:54:50,400 --> 01:54:52,880 important and I'll try to notice those 2721 01:54:52,880 --> 01:54:55,599 for you. 2722 01:54:55,599 --> 01:54:57,840 Okay. Yep. 2723 01:54:57,840 --> 01:55:00,080 We all know 2724 01:55:00,080 --> 01:55:04,239 it's we start out Carrie and Seth. 2725 01:55:04,239 --> 01:55:07,840 This is from Allison's email 2726 01:55:07,840 --> 01:55:10,800 and Seth Webb on Friday, September 4th 2727 01:55:10,800 --> 01:55:14,259 at 3:43 p.m. 2728 01:55:14,259 --> 01:55:14,800 [cough and clears throat] Senator 2729 01:55:14,800 --> 01:55:18,239 Allison Clarkson. Carrie and Seth, we 2730 01:55:18,239 --> 01:55:20,719 all know our middle and high school 2731 01:55:20,719 --> 01:55:23,599 physical plan is failing. 2732 01:55:23,599 --> 01:55:27,199 And while I appreciate your advocacy and 2733 01:55:27,199 --> 01:55:30,080 tenacity in pursuing a new build 2734 01:55:30,080 --> 01:55:32,560 beginning in 2027, 2735 01:55:32,560 --> 01:55:36,080 this time frame is out of sync with the 2736 01:55:36,080 --> 01:55:38,639 state's work regionalizing school 2737 01:55:38,639 --> 01:55:41,679 districts and creating comprehensive 2738 01:55:41,679 --> 01:55:44,000 regional middle and high schools to 2739 01:55:44,000 --> 01:55:46,320 serve our ever decreasing number of 2740 01:55:46,320 --> 01:55:48,159 students. 2741 01:55:48,159 --> 01:55:51,520 I am glad we met a month ago to discuss 2742 01:55:51,520 --> 01:55:54,960 the stat status of state aid for school 2743 01:55:54,960 --> 01:55:56,639 construction. 2744 01:55:56,639 --> 01:55:59,679 But as you know, the state not only 2745 01:55:59,679 --> 01:56:01,599 doesn't have a revenue source 2746 01:56:01,599 --> 01:56:03,119 identified, 2747 01:56:03,119 --> 01:56:05,679 it hasn't done the work of prioritizing 2748 01:56:05,679 --> 01:56:08,719 which schools will get financial support 2749 01:56:08,719 --> 01:56:12,639 first. Given the over six billion in 2750 01:56:12,639 --> 01:56:17,440 need, this is a herculean task. And 2751 01:56:17,440 --> 01:56:20,239 given these unknowns and knowing the 2752 01:56:20,239 --> 01:56:24,000 governor and the AOE are prioritizing 2753 01:56:24,000 --> 01:56:26,960 comprehensive regional schools, it is 2754 01:56:26,960 --> 01:56:30,960 hard to ask us to ask for final approval 2755 01:56:30,960 --> 01:56:34,560 of a project, no matter how worthy. The 2756 01:56:34,560 --> 01:56:37,599 AOE isn't in a position to grant a final 2757 01:56:37,599 --> 01:56:40,320 approval. So, it's hard for you to be 2758 01:56:40,320 --> 01:56:43,040 pushing us to ask them for something 2759 01:56:43,040 --> 01:56:46,480 they aren't going to give at this point. 2760 01:56:46,480 --> 01:56:50,320 I am happy to help as I can next year to 2761 01:56:50,320 --> 01:56:54,639 support and advocate from the sidelines 2762 01:56:54,639 --> 01:56:57,199 for all pieces Charlie Kimble has 2763 01:56:57,199 --> 01:57:00,880 proposed for next session. and the 2764 01:57:00,880 --> 01:57:03,599 current legislator. I am willing to work 2765 01:57:03,599 --> 01:57:06,480 with you and AOE to address all these 2766 01:57:06,480 --> 01:57:10,400 issues in the next few months. 2767 01:57:10,400 --> 01:57:13,830 Allison, 2768 01:57:13,840 --> 01:57:16,800 here's the email from Charlie Kimble to 2769 01:57:16,800 --> 01:57:22,000 Seth Webb Tuesday, August 25th at Finna. 2770 01:57:22,000 --> 01:57:24,880 Good morning, Seth. Thanks for the time 2771 01:57:24,880 --> 01:57:27,840 on the telephone yesterday. Rather than 2772 01:57:27,840 --> 01:57:30,400 sign on the onto the letter that you 2773 01:57:30,400 --> 01:57:32,960 presented, here is what I'm committed to 2774 01:57:32,960 --> 01:57:36,239 doing in the coming weeks, months, years 2775 01:57:36,239 --> 01:57:38,320 to advocate for the students of our 2776 01:57:38,320 --> 01:57:41,119 region. 2777 01:57:41,119 --> 01:57:45,199 Bullet one, introduce legislation that 2778 01:57:45,199 --> 01:57:47,920 increases the amount of emergency aid 2779 01:57:47,920 --> 01:57:52,719 available from 300,000 to 1 million. 2780 01:57:52,719 --> 01:57:56,320 creates an expedited review for projects 2781 01:57:56,320 --> 01:57:58,639 where the health and safety of the 2782 01:57:58,639 --> 01:58:02,159 students is at risk. 2783 01:58:02,159 --> 01:58:05,360 Three, creates an expedited review for 2784 01:58:05,360 --> 01:58:08,159 projects that are substantially the same 2785 01:58:08,159 --> 01:58:11,199 as ones that have previously received 2786 01:58:11,199 --> 01:58:14,159 preliminary approval by secretary and 2787 01:58:14,159 --> 01:58:16,800 state board of education. 2788 01:58:16,800 --> 01:58:19,440 Number two, advocate for the 2789 01:58:19,440 --> 01:58:22,159 appropriation of funds in the FY28 2790 01:58:22,159 --> 01:58:25,280 budget to fund state aid for school 2791 01:58:25,280 --> 01:58:28,000 construction projects sufficient to meet 2792 01:58:28,000 --> 01:58:31,440 the needs of priority projects. 2793 01:58:31,440 --> 01:58:33,920 Three, work with the agency of 2794 01:58:33,920 --> 01:58:36,880 education, CESAs, and merger study 2795 01:58:36,880 --> 01:58:40,000 committees to ensure that the Mountain 2796 01:58:40,000 --> 01:58:42,320 Views District has their full 2797 01:58:42,320 --> 01:58:44,719 consideration 2798 01:58:44,719 --> 01:58:47,520 for work with the state aid for school 2799 01:58:47,520 --> 01:58:50,320 construction advisory group to provide 2800 01:58:50,320 --> 01:58:51,920 them with input regarding the 2801 01:58:51,920 --> 01:58:55,040 prioritization of school construction 2802 01:58:55,040 --> 01:58:59,520 projects. And last, engage the AOE and 2803 01:58:59,520 --> 01:59:01,679 approach app appropriate legislative 2804 01:59:01,679 --> 01:59:05,280 committees on the implementation of acts 2805 01:59:05,280 --> 01:59:09,840 73 and 170, including the establishment 2806 01:59:09,840 --> 01:59:12,320 of new tax classifications for second 2807 01:59:12,320 --> 01:59:15,840 homes, the construct of the foundation 2808 01:59:15,840 --> 01:59:18,960 formula, funding for prek, 2809 01:59:18,960 --> 01:59:21,440 transportation, and special educational 2810 01:59:21,440 --> 01:59:22,960 services. 2811 01:59:22,960 --> 01:59:24,960 I believe this is the best way that I 2812 01:59:24,960 --> 01:59:26,880 can advocate for my views and its 2813 01:59:26,880 --> 01:59:29,040 students within the legislative 2814 01:59:29,040 --> 01:59:31,599 structure. I've already reached out to 2815 01:59:31,599 --> 01:59:34,000 the secretary of education to schedule a 2816 01:59:34,000 --> 01:59:37,440 meeting with legislators from the region 2817 01:59:37,440 --> 01:59:40,480 and have contacted them as well. 2818 01:59:40,480 --> 01:59:44,390 Charlie's 2819 01:59:44,400 --> 01:59:48,149 item number for 2820 01:59:48,159 --> 01:59:49,760 I'm going to just a little too 2821 01:59:49,760 --> 01:59:51,840 >> we can submit it in the record. Yeah. 2822 01:59:51,840 --> 01:59:53,679 Do you want to do you want to stop 2823 01:59:53,679 --> 01:59:55,760 or do you want to skip the categories? 2824 01:59:55,760 --> 01:59:58,560 Okay. Opportunity secure federal funds. 2825 01:59:58,560 --> 02:00:00,239 We've been researching and meeting with 2826 02:00:00,239 --> 02:00:02,400 companies like Energy Efficient 2827 02:00:02,400 --> 02:00:04,800 Investments. And this is what Matt 2828 02:00:04,800 --> 02:00:08,719 presented. Uh relevant presidents. Oh, 2829 02:00:08,719 --> 02:00:10,400 this is important. The [clears throat] 2830 02:00:10,400 --> 02:00:12,560 final section of this letter is on re 2831 02:00:12,560 --> 02:00:14,719 relevant presidents. 2832 02:00:14,719 --> 02:00:18,000 Burlington Integrated Arts Academy, a 2833 02:00:18,000 --> 02:00:20,639 $14 million decarbonization 2834 02:00:20,639 --> 02:00:22,400 project that secured 6 million in 2835 02:00:22,400 --> 02:00:24,639 federal funding. Mount Mansville High 2836 02:00:24,639 --> 02:00:26,800 School and in progress project where 2837 02:00:26,800 --> 02:00:29,040 geothermal booking approximately 15 2838 02:00:29,040 --> 02:00:31,679 million do high school and that's 2839 02:00:31,679 --> 02:00:33,679 another geothermal. 2840 02:00:33,679 --> 02:00:36,880 Uh next step issue an RFQ and we went 2841 02:00:36,880 --> 02:00:40,000 over that. So that's that's the 2842 02:00:40,000 --> 02:00:43,440 pretty much answer. 2843 02:00:43,440 --> 02:00:44,800 >> Thank you. 2844 02:00:44,800 --> 02:00:46,800 >> Any comments on that or questions about 2845 02:00:46,800 --> 02:00:49,599 that? 2846 02:00:49,599 --> 02:00:52,080 >> I they keep the legislature keeps saying 2847 02:00:52,080 --> 02:00:54,960 things are going to happen in 2028. Is 2848 02:00:54,960 --> 02:00:57,520 the tooth fairy coming or something? 2849 02:00:57,520 --> 02:00:59,040 Like I don't I don't see where the plan 2850 02:00:59,040 --> 02:01:01,440 is to make any of that happen. 2851 02:01:01,440 --> 02:01:04,560 >> Right. Well, 2852 02:01:04,560 --> 02:01:07,119 they're working on 2853 02:01:07,119 --> 02:01:09,119 All right. Uh well, thank you. Any other 2854 02:01:09,119 --> 02:01:14,149 working groups have an upgrade? The 2855 02:01:14,159 --> 02:01:16,480 » I can give a brief summary of that. So, 2856 02:01:16,480 --> 02:01:19,280 we've had um three meetings 2857 02:01:19,280 --> 02:01:22,880 um and uh basically we're taking really 2858 02:01:22,880 --> 02:01:25,599 comprehensive approach to understanding 2859 02:01:25,599 --> 02:01:29,440 the use of that in for students. Just 2860 02:01:29,440 --> 02:01:32,480 the um last one we reviewed the charge 2861 02:01:32,480 --> 02:01:34,480 and I can just briefly the charge came 2862 02:01:34,480 --> 02:01:38,000 back to the policy committee and and 2863 02:01:38,000 --> 02:01:40,400 then was re uh sort of revised a bit and 2864 02:01:40,400 --> 02:01:47,920 we gave it back to the uh edtech. So the um charge that we have now sort of 2865 02:01:47,920 --> 02:01:51,599 modified bit is just um create policy 2866 02:01:51,599 --> 02:01:55,679 recommendations and we want to um focus 2867 02:01:55,679 --> 02:01:58,480 on certain categories. So device access 2868 02:01:58,480 --> 02:02:01,199 and time use educational technology. So 2869 02:02:01,199 --> 02:02:04,000 the apps themselves whether family how 2870 02:02:04,000 --> 02:02:05,840 families can have a voice in this and 2871 02:02:05,840 --> 02:02:08,719 the limitations of of what the work 2872 02:02:08,719 --> 02:02:11,920 group is not doing. And also we're doing 2873 02:02:11,920 --> 02:02:14,960 something else. We're stratifying um our 2874 02:02:14,960 --> 02:02:17,760 recommendations based on grade bands. So 2875 02:02:17,760 --> 02:02:22,639 and we hope to use as much you know make it as much evidence-based as 2876 02:02:22,639 --> 02:02:25,119 possible. At the last meeting, uh, we 2877 02:02:25,119 --> 02:02:27,520 did have a really extensive, 2878 02:02:27,520 --> 02:02:29,920 um, review of the GoG Guardian, which is 2879 02:02:29,920 --> 02:02:34,000 a program that, um, sort of basically 2880 02:02:34,000 --> 02:02:36,800 keeps track of what students are are 2881 02:02:36,800 --> 02:02:38,880 doing in the classroom and and it also 2882 02:02:38,880 --> 02:02:40,719 is a protection for them. That was by 2883 02:02:40,719 --> 02:02:43,520 Andy and Mark. And we started to look at 2884 02:02:43,520 --> 02:02:45,920 um, New Line and Dream Box, which are 2885 02:02:45,920 --> 02:02:47,360 some of the apps that are being used. 2886 02:02:47,360 --> 02:02:50,719 So, work continues. is the group does um 2887 02:02:50,719 --> 02:02:53,360 basically put together the agenda for 2888 02:02:53,360 --> 02:02:55,599 the next time and what and so it's a 2889 02:02:55,599 --> 02:02:58,960 really active group. 2890 02:02:58,960 --> 02:03:01,440 >> Yes. All right. Any other working 2891 02:03:01,440 --> 02:03:04,709 groups? 2892 02:03:04,719 --> 02:03:06,880 We have two sets of minutes to approve 2893 02:03:06,880 --> 02:03:10,560 from June 24 meeting. Uh it says 24 on 2894 02:03:10,560 --> 02:03:12,800 me but it's 26 2895 02:03:12,800 --> 02:03:15,599 and June 17, 2026. 2896 02:03:15,599 --> 02:03:17,760 Um, is there a motion to approve both 2897 02:03:17,760 --> 02:03:20,080 sets and minutes? 2898 02:03:20,080 --> 02:03:21,920 >> I'll move to approve both sets and 2899 02:03:21,920 --> 02:03:22,320 minutes. 2900 02:03:22,320 --> 02:03:23,520 >> Is there a second? 2901 02:03:23,520 --> 02:03:26,639 >> I'll second. Thank you, Lisa. Um, all in 2902 02:03:26,639 --> 02:03:28,400 favor of approving the minutes, please 2903 02:03:28,400 --> 02:03:30,320 say I. 2904 02:03:30,320 --> 02:03:33,280 >> I. 2905 02:03:33,280 --> 02:03:35,840 All right. Any opposed? 2906 02:03:35,840 --> 02:03:38,960 Any abstaining? 2907 02:03:38,960 --> 02:03:41,990 Okay. 2908 02:03:42,000 --> 02:03:46,000 Um now the last section before we have 2909 02:03:46,000 --> 02:03:48,960 to executive sessions uh we have an 2910 02:03:48,960 --> 02:03:52,400 opportunity again for public comment. Um 2911 02:03:52,400 --> 02:03:54,960 do a reminder that it's for two minutes 2912 02:03:54,960 --> 02:03:56,960 and I'm going to ask Matt if you'd be 2913 02:03:56,960 --> 02:04:00,639 timing that and uh we keep on the same 2914 02:04:00,639 --> 02:04:03,280 topic. So if you have a comment on what 2915 02:04:03,280 --> 02:04:05,199 somebody else is saying, we just try to 2916 02:04:05,199 --> 02:04:07,199 get those done all as a group and then 2917 02:04:07,199 --> 02:04:10,080 we can move on to another group and um 2918 02:04:10,080 --> 02:04:14,400 we expect um civility in our comments. 2919 02:04:14,400 --> 02:04:16,159 So is there anybody in the room who 2920 02:04:16,159 --> 02:04:18,960 would like to make a public comment? 2921 02:04:18,960 --> 02:04:19,840 >> Yes. 2922 02:04:19,840 --> 02:04:22,800 >> Yeah, I'll be very quick. Um Adam Warren 2923 02:04:22,800 --> 02:04:25,360 Woodstock. I just want to um say two 2924 02:04:25,360 --> 02:04:26,560 things. First, I'm glad that the 2925 02:04:26,560 --> 02:04:28,639 geothermal discussion is going through. 2926 02:04:28,639 --> 02:04:30,480 Back in May, I had shared that idea with 2927 02:04:30,480 --> 02:04:33,679 the with the um survivor union and um 2928 02:04:33,679 --> 02:04:35,760 it's one of those abilities to get cash, 2929 02:04:35,760 --> 02:04:37,440 but it only comes in after the bill 2930 02:04:37,440 --> 02:04:39,920 typically and a discount. So, there 2931 02:04:39,920 --> 02:04:41,520 still needs to be a way to actually 2932 02:04:41,520 --> 02:04:43,679 funnel cash ahead of time to meet the 2933 02:04:43,679 --> 02:04:45,920 requirement. And I had talked a little 2934 02:04:45,920 --> 02:04:48,400 bit about this idea of a guarantee. When 2935 02:04:48,400 --> 02:04:50,800 I worked for broad um for Vermont 2936 02:04:50,800 --> 02:04:52,880 broadband board went ahead and bridged 2937 02:04:52,880 --> 02:04:54,800 finance and for cable and saved about $2 2938 02:04:54,800 --> 02:04:56,800 million. Essentially, what you're doing 2939 02:04:56,800 --> 02:04:59,840 here at insurance policy that would be 2940 02:04:59,840 --> 02:05:01,920 irrevocable and would pay the difference 2941 02:05:01,920 --> 02:05:05,760 between say $20 million and and and what 2942 02:05:05,760 --> 02:05:08,560 we owe uh for from or what the bond 2943 02:05:08,560 --> 02:05:10,239 would produce. Say the bond produces 100 2944 02:05:10,239 --> 02:05:12,080 million, we need 20 million. So we get a 2945 02:05:12,080 --> 02:05:14,639 guarantee for 20 million and that 20 2946 02:05:14,639 --> 02:05:16,320 million would be an insurance policy and 2947 02:05:16,320 --> 02:05:20,480 we would pay 1 or 2% every year for that 2948 02:05:20,480 --> 02:05:22,960 ability and it could be maybe 400,000, 2949 02:05:22,960 --> 02:05:24,880 it could be 200,000. Anyways, I just 2950 02:05:24,880 --> 02:05:26,960 want to put that in the record. Um, I 2951 02:05:26,960 --> 02:05:28,960 can't address this to anybody, but I 2952 02:05:28,960 --> 02:05:30,400 have spoken and I know that there'll be 2953 02:05:30,400 --> 02:05:32,400 some followup afterwards. So, as Thank 2954 02:05:32,400 --> 02:05:33,520 you very much. 2955 02:05:33,520 --> 02:05:35,119 >> Thank you. 2956 02:05:35,119 --> 02:05:37,171 >> Is there anybody um on Zoom 2957 02:05:37,171 --> 02:05:43,990 [clears throat] who would like to speak? 2958 02:05:44,000 --> 02:05:48,000 All right. Anybody else in the room? 2959 02:05:48,000 --> 02:05:49,440 >> Yeah. I just want to say just on the 2960 02:05:49,440 --> 02:05:52,639 topic of the school building that we're 2961 02:05:52,639 --> 02:05:54,159 just everything I'm saying. I'm not sure 2962 02:05:54,159 --> 02:05:55,760 how much of a consolation it is, but 2963 02:05:55,760 --> 02:05:57,599 we're doing a great job. I think it's 2964 02:05:57,599 --> 02:05:59,119 important for us to keep in mind that we 2965 02:05:59,119 --> 02:06:00,800 have made, from what I've seen, we've 2966 02:06:00,800 --> 02:06:03,119 made a lot of progress. We've gotten the 2967 02:06:03,119 --> 02:06:04,880 over the big hurdles. We just need to 2968 02:06:04,880 --> 02:06:07,119 get through this final little step. And 2969 02:06:07,119 --> 02:06:08,560 that it's important to remember 2970 02:06:08,560 --> 02:06:10,960 legislation has changed. The election 2971 02:06:10,960 --> 02:06:13,440 cycle has come and gone. And whether 2972 02:06:13,440 --> 02:06:15,199 they said it or not, that definitely 2973 02:06:15,199 --> 02:06:17,040 played on their minds whether they voted 2974 02:06:17,040 --> 02:06:20,400 for or against interests that helped us. 2975 02:06:20,400 --> 02:06:22,239 So, it's important to keep in mind that 2976 02:06:22,239 --> 02:06:25,360 we can try again and that our activity 2977 02:06:25,360 --> 02:06:28,000 has had a huge impact in the state. I 2978 02:06:28,000 --> 02:06:29,679 don't know if any other district is 2979 02:06:29,679 --> 02:06:31,920 quite as impactful as ours and we're 2980 02:06:31,920 --> 02:06:37,589 doing really really great work. 2981 02:06:37,599 --> 02:06:42,550 » Anybody on on Zoom? 2982 02:06:42,560 --> 02:06:44,000 All right. Then I'm going to close the 2983 02:06:44,000 --> 02:06:48,400 cup of the the public comment and I need 2984 02:06:48,400 --> 02:06:51,760 uh to have a motion that 2985 02:06:51,760 --> 02:06:53,920 is to enter executive session for 2986 02:06:53,920 --> 02:06:57,119 personnel matter one 2987 02:06:57,119 --> 02:06:59,920 313 A3 2988 02:06:59,920 --> 02:07:02,960 motion for that. 2989 02:07:02,960 --> 02:07:14,229 Anybody want a second? 2990 02:07:14,239 --> 02:07:17,440 » Thank you very much. 2991 02:07:17,440 --> 02:07:21,280 >> I I also only meet 2992 02:07:21,280 --> 02:07:23,840 >> I was 2993 02:07:23,840 --> 02:07:26,639 so on Zoom please. 2994 02:07:26,639 --> 02:07:28,159 >> Only boards. 2995 02:07:28,159 --> 02:07:29,760 >> Sorry. Um, 2996 02:07:29,760 --> 02:07:33,750 >> see though I wanted 2997 02:07:33,760 --> 02:07:36,239 or or Curry, I have a quick question. 2998 02:07:36,239 --> 02:07:40,880 Um, will there be any decisions made or 2999 02:07:40,880 --> 02:07:43,280 statements made in public following 3000 02:07:43,280 --> 02:07:46,800 either executive session? 3001 02:07:46,800 --> 02:07:48,880 >> Um, not that I'm aware of. 3002 02:07:48,880 --> 02:07:50,560 >> Okay. 3003 02:07:50,560 --> 02:07:54,800 So we uh took no action in the first um 3004 02:07:54,800 --> 02:07:58,000 executive session and um we came out at 3005 02:07:58,000 --> 02:07:59,840 9:08 3006 02:07:59,840 --> 02:08:02,800 and we have a second executive session 3007 02:08:02,800 --> 02:08:08,159 for the same purpose of 1 BSA 313A 3008 02:08:08,159 --> 02:08:11,599 item of reflection. Um, I would like us 3009 02:08:11,599 --> 02:08:16,000 to have a more intentional time in our 3010 02:08:16,000 --> 02:08:18,880 agenda to address anything that comes up 3011 02:08:18,880 --> 02:08:22,079 in public comment that doesn't relate to 3012 02:08:22,079 --> 02:08:23,280 something that's already on the agenda. 3013 02:08:23,280 --> 02:08:25,920 This has happened multiple times. Um, 3014 02:08:25,920 --> 02:08:28,560 and it could be that we address it in 3015 02:08:28,560 --> 02:08:30,320 the same meeting where it came up if 3016 02:08:30,320 --> 02:08:32,079 it's in the first public comment or we 3017 02:08:32,079 --> 02:08:33,760 could say, "Okay, we're going to 3018 02:08:33,760 --> 02:08:35,440 definitely put that on the agenda for 3019 02:08:35,440 --> 02:08:37,840 next week." But I think some things have 3020 02:08:37,840 --> 02:08:39,840 fallen through the cracks and I I would 3021 02:08:39,840 --> 02:08:41,679 like I think the people who make the 3022 02:08:41,679 --> 02:08:43,599 comment would like us to have some time 3023 02:08:43,599 --> 02:08:46,560 to discuss it while they're still here 3024 02:08:46,560 --> 02:08:47,199 personally 3025 02:08:47,199 --> 02:08:49,360 >> or just in general. I mean, I I thought 3026 02:08:49,360 --> 02:08:53,360 that both I think Adam and Aby's I I 3027 02:08:53,360 --> 02:08:55,040 would be interested in hearing more 3028 02:08:55,040 --> 02:08:56,560 about both of those things and thought 3029 02:08:56,560 --> 02:08:58,239 that they came from really good places 3030 02:08:58,239 --> 02:09:00,719 and right now there's just nothing on 3031 02:09:00,719 --> 02:09:03,920 the table for us to continue 3032 02:09:03,920 --> 02:09:07,040 that and I like to action some of those 3033 02:09:07,040 --> 02:09:09,360 things. Yeah, we really aren't supposed 3034 02:09:09,360 --> 02:09:11,679 to be answering the questions because 3035 02:09:11,679 --> 02:09:13,360 other people interested in the same 3036 02:09:13,360 --> 02:09:15,119 topic don't have the chance to know that 3037 02:09:15,119 --> 02:09:16,639 it's going to be on the agenda. So, we 3038 02:09:16,639 --> 02:09:18,400 would always have to push it to the next 3039 02:09:18,400 --> 02:09:21,840 meeting. That's okay. But like how how 3040 02:09:21,840 --> 02:09:24,320 can we do that? Like I mean I'm assuming 3041 02:09:24,320 --> 02:09:25,840 we don't want to do that every single 3042 02:09:25,840 --> 02:09:28,480 time. That's fine. But like how do we 3043 02:09:28,480 --> 02:09:30,719 make is it is this the time in the 3044 02:09:30,719 --> 02:09:36,000 meeting right now? We're deciding what we want to discuss next time. 3045 02:09:36,000 --> 02:09:38,159 >> No, cuz we're we're we're in public 3046 02:09:38,159 --> 02:09:41,119 session now to I mean nobody's here, but 3047 02:09:41,119 --> 02:09:43,360 we're in public session. So we can but 3048 02:09:43,360 --> 02:09:47,119 we can make that dis as a point of the 3049 02:09:47,119 --> 02:09:49,280 reflection to say the chair really has 3050 02:09:49,280 --> 02:09:51,040 the authority to set the agenda. 3051 02:09:51,040 --> 02:09:53,599 >> Yeah. So there can be discussions with 3052 02:09:53,599 --> 02:09:55,760 the chair outside of the public meeting 3053 02:09:55,760 --> 02:09:58,560 about what ought to be on the agenda. 3054 02:09:58,560 --> 02:10:01,520 >> Some of the agenda items we have 3055 02:10:01,520 --> 02:10:04,560 practicedly if not everyone come from 3056 02:10:04,560 --> 02:10:07,040 some of you guys and a public comment 3057 02:10:07,040 --> 02:10:08,880 that we feel like we need to address 3058 02:10:08,880 --> 02:10:10,079 this. 3059 02:10:10,079 --> 02:10:12,239 >> So Karin's point is right. So if you 3060 02:10:12,239 --> 02:10:14,400 have a topic that was in public comment, 3061 02:10:14,400 --> 02:10:16,320 emailing Carrie and saying, "Could we 3062 02:10:16,320 --> 02:10:18,159 have more information on this topic next 3063 02:10:18,159 --> 02:10:20,639 to him?" Which gives us time to prepare, 3064 02:10:20,639 --> 02:10:22,079 you know, and bring the right thing in 3065 02:10:22,079 --> 02:10:23,599 the table. 3066 02:10:23,599 --> 02:10:24,480 >> Right. 3067 02:10:24,480 --> 02:10:26,560 >> Yeah. And I appreciate that. I I would 3068 02:10:26,560 --> 02:10:29,760 like the opportunity to say that in the 3069 02:10:29,760 --> 02:10:32,239 board meeting like yes, let's talk about 3070 02:10:32,239 --> 02:10:34,960 this so that they feel heard 3071 02:10:34,960 --> 02:10:36,880 >> because if they don't know if I email 3072 02:10:36,880 --> 02:10:41,440 Carrie the next day. So you know just the one statement like hey Sherry 3073 02:10:41,440 --> 02:10:43,840 who would be the best person for us to 3074 02:10:43,840 --> 02:10:47,360 have at our next meeting to talk about 3075 02:10:47,360 --> 02:10:49,840 you're allowed to say that by the way. 3076 02:10:49,840 --> 02:10:52,480 So you're a board member and after 3077 02:10:52,480 --> 02:10:55,599 public comments made you can say hey 3078 02:10:55,599 --> 02:10:58,960 Carrie I would really like us to you 3079 02:10:58,960 --> 02:11:01,440 know follow up with that and Carrie many 3080 02:11:01,440 --> 02:11:03,920 times has actually said to the public 3081 02:11:03,920 --> 02:11:07,599 what we do is after we listen to you um 3082 02:11:07,599 --> 02:11:11,360 we will have like a script I don't maybe 3083 02:11:11,360 --> 02:11:13,280 she didn't use it tonight but she'll 3084 02:11:13,280 --> 02:11:16,079 tell the public like we can't further 3085 02:11:16,079 --> 02:11:17,840 address it further tonight but we can 3086 02:11:17,840 --> 02:11:19,760 put it on a future agenda and we is a 3087 02:11:19,760 --> 02:11:22,480 board will address it. But even before 3088 02:11:22,480 --> 02:11:24,639 she says her script, you can look Adam 3089 02:11:24,639 --> 02:11:27,760 in the eye and you can you can say that. 3090 02:11:27,760 --> 02:11:30,000 >> You can say that's a really important 3091 02:11:30,000 --> 02:11:32,719 concern, Carrie. Can we talk about that? 3092 02:11:32,719 --> 02:11:34,639 Like you can do that. 3093 02:11:34,639 --> 02:11:36,239 >> So I think maybe we just need to know 3094 02:11:36,239 --> 02:11:39,199 what that's for sure. That was 3095 02:11:39,199 --> 02:11:40,719 >> that's what I was just going to suggest 3096 02:11:40,719 --> 02:11:42,239 like I'm a new board member. I was just 3097 02:11:42,239 --> 02:11:44,800 newly elected. So maybe the the meeting 3098 02:11:44,800 --> 02:11:47,040 following election when everybody comes 3099 02:11:47,040 --> 02:11:49,360 together quickly have a brief overview 3100 02:11:49,360 --> 02:11:53,040 of what committees are here already 3101 02:11:53,040 --> 02:11:54,400 established what a little bit of what 3102 02:11:54,400 --> 02:11:57,920 they do and what we can do as a board 3103 02:11:57,920 --> 02:12:00,880 member what we can and you know can't do 3104 02:12:00,880 --> 02:12:03,520 so that everybody coming on and even a 3105 02:12:03,520 --> 02:12:04,800 refresher for those who have been here 3106 02:12:04,800 --> 02:12:07,520 for a while um it just kind of brings it 3107 02:12:07,520 --> 02:12:09,119 to the forefront. Yeah. 3108 02:12:09,119 --> 02:12:10,719 >> And the VSBA [clears throat] does have 3109 02:12:10,719 --> 02:12:13,760 seminars and webinars too. Yeah, in that 3110 02:12:13,760 --> 02:12:16,320 book that you get that's got a lot of 3111 02:12:16,320 --> 02:12:18,400 stuff in there about that stuff too. 3112 02:12:18,400 --> 02:12:23,830 I've been myself to review 3113 02:12:23,840 --> 02:12:27,199 » and select board by the way a little bit 3114 02:12:27,199 --> 02:12:30,639 differently. They have public comment 3115 02:12:30,639 --> 02:12:32,159 or agenda item 3116 02:12:32,159 --> 02:12:33,679 >> be changing that system. 3117 02:12:33,679 --> 02:12:35,760 >> Okay. But [clears throat] 3118 02:12:35,760 --> 02:12:39,270 there's a 3119 02:12:39,280 --> 02:12:41,840 maybe longer but 3120 02:12:41,840 --> 02:12:43,440 >> makes public feel like they're part of 3121 02:12:43,440 --> 02:12:45,360 the actual discussion rather than all 3122 02:12:45,360 --> 02:12:47,360 the beginning all the 3123 02:12:47,360 --> 02:12:50,550 >> Yeah. 3124 02:12:50,560 --> 02:12:53,830 » Okay. 3125 02:12:53,840 --> 02:12:55,599 » Who would like to make the motion? 3126 02:12:55,599 --> 02:12:57,840 >> I'll make a motion. I also want to say I 3127 02:12:57,840 --> 02:13:00,239 love a good point of order. 3128 02:13:00,239 --> 02:13:01,599 >> Yes. 3129 02:13:01,599 --> 02:13:02,480 >> Thank you, Mom. 3130 02:13:02,480 --> 02:13:06,709 >> All right. I'll keep 3131 02:13:06,719 --> 02:13:09,599 » have a good evening. 3132 02:13:09,599 --> 02:13:10,480 >> Have a good night. 3133 02:13:10,480 --> 02:13:14,880 >> Good night. Anybody say no? 3134 02:13:14,880 --> 02:13:18,280 Good night everyone.