[0:05] Hello, I'm Gina Marie Rodriguez and this
is Meeting Mountainside. Today we're
[0:10] here with Councilman Steve Matatics and
I cannot wait to speak to him about all
[0:14] things Mountainside. So hi Steve, how
you doing?
[0:16] » Hi, welcome.
>> Oh, thank you.
[0:18] » [laughter]
>> I'm here in your town now so you tell me
[0:21] all about it.
>> Yes, thanks for coming out to see us.
[0:24] It's a pleasure to have you.
>> I mean it's fun being here for me. I'm
[0:29] still learning. This is what I think I
said it's my third third time with
[0:34] Meeting Mountainside so
there's a lot you still need to teach me
[0:37] about the area. I don't know much. I
come from Rahway so there's much to
[0:41] learn. Thank you, that's your job. But
we just kind of want to learn a little
[0:45] bit about you if that's okay. So talk to
me about your background and you grew up
[0:50] here?
>> Yes, I grew up in Mountainside. My
[0:52] parents moved here in 1976.
So when I was 3 years old
[0:58] so I had the pleasure of having a
Mountainside childhood and went through
[1:03] the programs and the schools that we
have here.
[1:06] I attended day camps at
the local churches,
[1:12] Our Lady of Lords
CPC
[1:17] which is Presbyterian Church I attended
>> it's full title CPC or does that stand
[1:22] for something?
>> It stands for
[1:24] Community
Presbyterian Church.
[1:28] » That makes sense.
>> I think.
[1:29] » Okay.
>> Yeah, they all just refer to it as CPC
[1:32] and they're very active in the
community.
[1:33] » Well now if I say it I'll pretend I'm a
local CPC.
[1:36] » Great.
I attended the schools here which are
[1:40] Beechwood and then I attended Deerfield
and I went on to at the time
[1:46] Mountainside sent our students to
Jonathan Dayton in Springfield. So I
[1:50] attended all of those schools, went
through all of the um
[1:53] the schools.
>> Yeah, that's fun.
[1:55] So that last one was high school then.
>> Correct.
[1:58] » Right. Okay. All right. I'm learning
learning the names.
[2:01] Beachwood, Deerfield, and
>> At the time it was Jonathan Dayton. Now
[2:06] it's in Berk- well, that school is still
there, but we send our students to
[2:10] Berkeley Heights, Governor Livingston.
>> Oh, okay. Wow. See, there's so much that
[2:14] I don't know. Cuz Mountainside is a
small community, correct?
[2:18] » small town, so we don't have our own
high school. Once upon a time we did. Uh
[2:22] and now the school is uh Borough Hall.
>> Oh, okay. Well, that's good for me to
[2:26] know, too.
>> The town has grown and expanded, and we
[2:29] have more schools and more students.
>> I love that. So tell me a little bit
[2:33] about Borough Hall, too. Is this Is this
where you work out of?
[2:37] » Yes. Uh the council meetings are in
Borough Hall. The committee meetings,
[2:42] all of the town business uh happens in
Borough Hall. We have our business uh
[2:47] administrator, the different
departments, engineering, uh recreation,
[2:52] the police department is there.
Uh Department of Public Works. Uh used
[2:57] to be fully um
based out of there. Uh there's still an
[3:01] administrative office, but we built a
separate uh DPW facility uh not far.
[3:06] » Okay. Well, that's nice. Are any of the
meetings public?
[3:10] » All of the meetings are public.
>> All of them. Okay.
[3:12] » Yeah. Um there's two um public meetings
a month. There's a work session, which
[3:18] is where we talk about the various
things that are going to be on the um
[3:24] the council meeting agenda. So it's the
uh the first and third Tuesday of every
[3:29] month. So we have a work session where
we discuss various matters that are
[3:33] going to be on the agenda. And then we
have the the council meeting where we
[3:37] conduct business in terms of voting.
Um but those are those are public
[3:42] meetings.
>> Okay. That's good to know. I mean, I
[3:45] think
as somebody who doesn't follow local
[3:48] politics as closely as she should, I do
want to reiterate that they are public
[3:52] meetings. So, if you guys want to get
involved, you should be doing that.
[3:56] Uh do as I say, not as I do.
So, I want to learn a little bit more
[4:00] about what it is that you're working on
now, and then we'll talk about the fact
[4:04] that you are running for re-election
soon. But, tell me what it is that
[4:07] you're you are working on now and what
you've been working on during your term.
[4:11] » Uh during my time on council, I've had
several assignments. Um I was on the
[4:16] planning board. We rotate on and off
some of these different assignments.
[4:21] I've since rotated off. I was on fire
for a while, for a couple years. Very
[4:26] proud of my work on fire. It's uh a
volunteer firehouse, and they're very
[4:32] well trained, and they do an excellent
job for the community.
[4:36] They're all volunteers doing this
tremendous work.
[4:39] Uh
>> So, what does that mean?
[4:42] What were you volunteering as a
firefighter? What do you mean that you
[4:44] were
on the fire department?
[4:46] » Yeah, so uh as part of the fire
committee, we do things like decide on
[4:50] policy.
Um think of it as a a corporation. And
[4:57] you know, if you want to think about it
in a private terms, kind of like a board
[5:01] that makes decisions, uh mostly
policy-wise.
[5:04] » Okay, that does help cuz it kind of
gives me the hierarchy to understand.
[5:08] So, okay.
>> They have their own They have their own
[5:10] managers within the department. And and
the firefighters.
[5:14] » Okay, that's awesome. So, what kinds of
policy were implemented when you were or
[5:19] while you've been in term?
>> Yeah, uh we went through the bylaws. We
[5:23] updated those.
Uh making sure that they have all of the
[5:27] equipment that they need to be up to
standards.
[5:30] A volunteer fire uh department is uh run
a lot like a paid firehouse. They go
[5:36] through all the same training,
uh the fire school, the equipment has to
[5:41] meet all the same requirements.
Uh so, running a firehouse is uh pretty
[5:47] pretty complicated.
>> I'm sure. I mean, I have never had the
[5:51] pleasure or the honor, uh but I can
imagine that there's a lot of not only
[5:55] responsibility, but just so much
pressure, right? You are responsible for
[5:59] people's lives and safety. So, that's
that's a lot to consider. But, I I feel
[6:03] like I interrupted you before you were
going to say that you worked on fire and
[6:06] you were continuing before I interrupted
you.
[6:08] » Right. Um
I'm also on the um committee for the
[6:13] Department of Public Works
>> Okay.
[6:15] » uh and police.
During my time on uh Department of
[6:19] Public Works, we've uh we built a new
facility.
[6:23] Uh
once upon a time, we didn't have our own
[6:26] salt dome. We used to use this Yeah,
this
[6:29] » Big words for me.
>> We uh we used the the state's salt dome.
[6:33] But, unfortunately, we had to uh get our
own
[6:37] uh and build a new building. Uh
which in the end, it actually it was a
[6:41] very good investment. Uh
the uh the town has a very good
[6:46] Department of Public Works in
coordination with outside contractors.
[6:50] Our roads are cleared
uh very well and very soon after a storm
[6:56] so that we can get emergency services to
uh respond uh or people getting to their
[7:02] livelihoods.
>> I'm starting to see how those things are
[7:05] tied now, how those committees are tied.
The fire
[7:09] » Yes, absolutely. I mean, it's not an
easy job that you've tackled here. But,
[7:15] what is it that that made you want to
become a council person?
[7:20] » You know, growing up in town, uh
I I really have a lot uh invested in the
[7:25] town. And as I became older, I gained a
lot of experience in in private
[7:29] practice.
Uh have a financial background and a
[7:34] seat became available, and I decided to
run, and I wanted to lend my expertise
[7:39] to the community.
Uh um it's a good way to participate and
[7:44] give back and uh maintain our our town's
uh character.
[7:50] » Absolutely. You just said that you had a
financial background. What is your
[7:53] background?
>> Uh accounting,
[7:55] uh CPA, worked at various uh companies
whether they were domestic or or
[8:01] international,
uh largely uh real estate.
[8:05] » Oh, okay. All right, I know nothing
about taxes. Like don't ask me. That's I
[8:09] usually hire an accountant because I
don't know what I'm doing. That's the
[8:11] right move.
>> Yeah.
[8:13] Says the accountant. Um, but yeah, I'd
like to learn a little bit more. I want
[8:18] to go back in time, right back to your
childhood here.
[8:23] Not that you necessarily knew better,
but what is it that you loved? What is a
[8:27] memory that pulls you back to your
childhood all the time that could only
[8:30] have happened in Mountainside?
>> Uh I love the ability to just in the
[8:34] summer hop on my bike, travel all around
town,
[8:38] didn't worry about safety. Um,
you know, when it was dusk, it was time
[8:43] to come home. There was no cell phones.
Uh
[8:47] meet up meet up with your friends,
bike around the schools, uh lots of
[8:53] tennis, uh swim team,
uh I participated in the recreation
[8:59] department and all that they had to
offer whether it was uh skiing in the
[9:02] winter, they used uh
um roller skating outings, uh there's a
[9:10] day camp right next to the pool. So, a
lot of um youth go to these day camps.
[9:16] They can go to the pool when they're
done.
[9:18] » Is it the same day camp that has
that was around since you were a child?
[9:22] Is it still there?
>> Oh, yeah.
[9:23] » Oh, wow. It's All right, good. That
longevity, I really appreciate. That's
[9:26] awesome.
>> Yeah.
[9:28] » Okay. I
I'm sorry, I'm getting stuck for a
[9:31] second because I there's so many things
that I want to talk to you about and I'm
[9:34] like trying to keep in line. You
mentioned the pool cuz I think we were
[9:38] talking about the day camping by the
pool and I know you had told me
[9:42] previously before we got on camera that
there is a renovation planned for the
[9:47] pool. So, can you talk to me a little
bit about the renovation?
[9:49] » Well, it's under discussion right now
what's to be done. So, it's not exactly
[9:54] determined. What we did is we went out
to the public.
[9:58] The surveys were done
that went out to the public to get
[10:01] feedback. We had multiple town hall
meetings.
[10:05] The pool's 60 years old and has a
lifespan.
[10:08] And I would say through good management
management and maintenance, we've gotten
[10:13] a pool to exceed its expected
lifespan.
[10:18] » Absolutely.
>> But at some point
[10:20] um
it needs
[10:22] some care.
Um
[10:25] whereas a lot of communities in the
surrounding areas have closed their
[10:29] pool.
We think from the feedback we received,
[10:34] the community loves the pool. It's it's
it's a mountainside institution.
[10:40] And we don't want to take that away from
the current or future residents.
[10:45] » Especially if we continue getting heat
waves like we've been having this last
[10:49] week.
>> That's right.
[10:49] » It's crazy. I can't imagine life without
a pool. But did you say that there's a
[10:55] measure that's being proposed? Are
people going to be able to vote on this
[10:58] or this is something that's happening
internally?
[11:00] » Well, what we've done is gone out to the
public to share information. We actually
[11:04] had an on-site town hall.
If you go to the pool, it still looks
[11:08] beautiful. So, it's a little bit
deceiving. But then when you understand,
[11:11] okay, this part of the pavement is
sinking, the grass has sinkholes.
[11:16] There's there's rust building up in the
filter room because
[11:20] the pipes at the time were built out of
iron. They're deteriorating.
[11:25] And then you learn from the pool
managers that almost 5,000 gallons a day
[11:30] of the pool is leaking. And it has to be
constantly filled every every day.
[11:36] Um and some of these things
aren't simple repairs.
[11:40] » No, not at all. But, I'm glad that we're
discussing them because I wouldn't have
[11:43] known any of that to consider. So, I I
hope folks are paying attention.
[11:47] » Yeah, that's why we got people out on
site
[11:50] with experts to show them around and and
educate people, ask them all the they
[11:55] can ask all the questions they want,
give all the feedback that they want.
[11:59] And uh and we've got a lot of uh
feedback and uh a lot of optimism
[12:04] about uh what we've done and and the
path forward.
[12:08] » I think that's amazing, and we're going
to end on an optimistic note for now,
[12:11] and we'll be right back after this.
[12:31] » [screaming]
[12:34] [panting]
[12:42] » Eyes forward. Don't drive distracted.
>> Welcome back to Meeting Mountainside.
[12:48] Like I said before, we are still here
with Steve Matichak, and we are talking
[12:52] about your re-election campaign because
you are running for councilperson again.
[12:56] So, talk to me about that. First, let us
know when is election day.
[13:00] » Yes, uh I am running. Uh
running for uh Borough Council. The
[13:05] general election is November 3rd. It's
the first Tuesday in November.
[13:10] » Okay. That's great. So, tell us
what Well, I'm I don't live here, so I
[13:14] can't vote for you, but tell the folks
why they should vote for you.
[13:17] » Well, I've been on uh Council for 6
years, and during my time, we've
[13:21] accomplished quite a lot. Uh we have
maintained and even improved things like
[13:27] our uh fire department, our police
department. We've maintained
[13:32] the character
of our town.
[13:36] We've
always fought against high-density
[13:39] housing. It puts such a strain on the
community.
[13:43] Bringing high-density housing into the
community puts a strain on the schools,
[13:49] classroom sizes,
emergency services.
[13:55] It doesn't help the tax base at the rate
in which the services are consumed.
[14:02] We have a lovely town that doesn't have
over abundance of traffic. And people
[14:10] moved here for what it is. So, we'd like
to maintain what we have
[14:16] while also developing the town
in various ways.
[14:21] Adding parks and recreation for
sports, general quality of life, and
[14:28] various activities.
>> Now, can you clarify for me when you say
[14:31] high-density housing, do you mean
high-rises like apartment complexes? Is
[14:35] that what we're talking about?
>> Well, I'm sure some developers would
[14:38] like to do that, but you generally will
see um
[14:41] developments that are several stories
high.
[14:45] Not not towers, but several stories
high. Uh with
[14:50] uh buildings that are not stand-alone.
Our town side is mostly stand-alone
[14:55] homes, single residence
properties.
[15:01] Whereas the high-density housing really
cramps a lot of people into a small
[15:04] location.
>> Okay. All right, that's good to know.
[15:08] And you were saying that that
This is I hope it doesn't sound silly,
[15:11] but can you explain to me how that
affects taxes?
[15:14] » Sure. Well,
um
[15:17] as you bring in more people, you have to
provide more services. You have to hire
[15:20] more police. There's more
fire events.
[15:24] It doesn't necessarily need to be a
fire. It could be a carbon monoxide
[15:28] alarm. They They respond.
>> Okay.
[15:30] » Uh so, all of the things that
uh the bureau hall provides for its
[15:36] residents
just have to increase. And And the tax
[15:40] base that you get out of high-density
housing uh comes in at at a reduced rate
[15:45] versus
homes that
[15:49] are at the
at the current
[15:52] tax rate.
>> Okay. All right. Well, see, I just had a
[15:56] huge lesson there because I didn't know
any of that. So, thank you for
[15:58] explaining it to me.
Maybe that's what I need, just an
[16:01] accountant on speed dial explaining
things to
[16:04] » we have a very low taxes in
Mountainside. Our Our tax rate is
[16:09] amongst the lowest in the county.
>> I did not know that.
[16:12] » It's It's almost half of the state
average.
[16:16] » I didn't know that, either.
>> Yeah. So, we're we're we're doing that
[16:20] by continuing with what we're doing,
maintaining fiscal responsibility,
[16:25] um and making sure that residents, when
they come here for all that it is, don't
[16:31] necessarily get priced out of their own
home when they retire. So, we have a
[16:35] very robust senior population.
>> Okay.
[16:38] » And when they retire, they can continue
to live here.
[16:42] » And for that senior population, what
opportunities exist for them? Is there a
[16:47] senior center? Like, what kind of
activities are offered?
[16:50] » Quite a bit. So, within our recreation
department, we have a senior coordinator
[16:55] who runs all sorts of programs. We have
a There's a great organization called
[17:01] Mountainside Active Retirees.
>> Okay.
[17:03] » Uh our seniors are active and they're
smart. Uh and
[17:09] And they're a great part of the
community.
[17:11] » I feel like what I'm hearing is I should
retire in Mountainside.
[17:14] » If you can, please.
>> I I I've got time, I hope.
[17:17] » [laughter]
>> But I want to know I want to hear more
[17:20] about what you're planning. Let's say
you are lucky enough to get reelected,
[17:24] what do you foresee in the future?
>> There's a lot of great things on the
[17:28] horizon that we're working on now. We're
in the process of building a park in the
[17:33] center of town. Uh we acquired some land
with grants, so there was no um impact
[17:40] on taxpayers.
We are building a soccer field behind
[17:45] one of the schools, a regulation soccer
field. As we've seen the
[17:51] the
the desire from
[17:55] you know, kind of transition from some
other sports to soccer becoming very
[17:59] popular.
>> Well, the World Cup is going on right
[18:01] now, so
>> that, but even before that,
[18:03] um
uh
[18:05] we we have a soccer league, and we need
a proper soccer field. So, we we have
[18:11] one, but we need we need another one.
>> Okay. I want to hear more about the
[18:14] park. That's what I'm excited about. So,
how big is the plan for this park?
[18:20] » Well, it's
it's a little walking park. It's
[18:23] downtown. It's not
um
[18:25] very expansive, but it's a nice addition
to our downtown.
[18:29] Whereas, some downtowns might have
something like a Starbucks that'll have
[18:32] a lot of traffic, this is a an open
space where people can gather. There'll
[18:37] be park benches.
Uh there'll be tree-lined paths. It'll
[18:41] be a nice gathering place for the
community.
[18:43] » Okay, so when I heard park, I was
thinking swing sets and slides. So, not
[18:48] that kind of park.
>> No, we have that, and we're uh nestled
[18:52] next to the Watching Reservation. We
have all sorts of uh natural trails and
[18:56] and things like that. So, it it's a
little bit different than what we have.
[19:00] It's a nice addition to what we have.
>> I like that. So, this is more of like a
[19:04] walking path as opposed to a bike path
type
[19:06] » Correct. Yes.
>> Okay.
[19:08] Not not that I bike, but I'm, you know,
thinking about maybe changing my
[19:13] activities.
>> So, open spaces that
[19:16] let people gather
>> Yeah.
[19:18] » play sports and generally
>> Yeah, and generally have a better
[19:22] quality of life. Whereas other towns are
taking spaces and putting in
[19:26] high-density housing.
>> Right. We're right on top of that.
[19:29] » going the opposite direction.
>> Okay. I I think that's that's really
[19:33] important. I wanted to ask you
we had Valerie Walsh on the same show a
[19:39] little while back. I've lost track of
time, but
[19:42] you're you've been working with her and
she's a co-candidate. You're both
[19:45] running at the same time. So, tell me
what it's like to collaborate with your
[19:50] fellow council people.
>> Yeah, working with Valerie and the other
[19:54] members of the governing body is
fantastic. There is so much intellectual
[19:59] diversity. We have attorneys,
accountants, we have parents and
[20:04] grandparents and
single parents and
[20:08] everyone comes with their own
perspective, their own set of skills and
[20:13] we all come together
really selflessly for the betterment of
[20:17] the community. Everyone goes in thinking
about the community as a whole, not
[20:22] necessarily, okay, how
how's this affect me and my street?
[20:26] » Right.
>> How does it affect the community as a
[20:28] whole?
>> Right. Well, I think that's an important
[20:30] way of thinking cuz we should be
community focused. I think that
[20:34] in my experience at least we're living
in a time where people tend to insulate
[20:39] themselves and individualism has, I
don't know,
[20:44] it's on the rise to a degree and maybe
if we're lucky Mountainside has kind of
[20:49] avoided that fate, but I do want to hear
more about what programming exists to
[20:56] encourage people to leave the house, to
to come and meet new people as opposed
[21:00] to just, you know, we've created this
park for you and it's, you know,
[21:04] available. But, how are you encouraging
people to to leave the house?
[21:08] » There's something for everyone, whether
you want to go off and do something
[21:11] independently, like the parks,
uh the trails in the reservation.
[21:15] There's a lot of organized things as
well. We have a a great scouting program
[21:20] from
uh Cub Scouts to Boy Scouts and a lot of
[21:25] fantastic volunteers in that
organization and others. Uh there's a
[21:30] Mountainside uh Newcomers organization.
People come into town and you want to
[21:34] meet people and network. You can join
this organization. I've met a lot of
[21:38] friends there. Uh as you become a
senior, again, the Mountainside Active
[21:43] Retirees.
>> Already planning on it.
[21:45] » Yeah. Uh there's programs at Borough
Hall. Uh
[21:49] there's chair yoga if that's your your
skill level. Uh there's
[21:54] » my skill level.
>> That's great.
[21:57] Uh there's all sorts of activities at
the pool. There's a a swim team. Uh
[22:02] there's there's tennis lessons. We have
great tennis courts. So, we just
[22:05] resurface those and and and invested a
lot into our infrastructure. So, there
[22:11] there is something for everyone.
>> Yeah. Well, I've heard that pickleball
[22:14] is on the rise. I know nothing about it.
Do you have a pickleball court or is it
[22:18] the same as a tennis court? I genuinely
don't know the answer.
[22:20] » Oh, yeah. So,
the tennis courts become the pickleball
[22:23] court. You take half of a tennis court
and you turn it into a pickleball court.
[22:28] And there's so many people out there and
it's uh you know, it it it it it lets
[22:34] other people uh who might not be uh
tennis players get into pickleball. It's
[22:39] it's um you know, you have tennis,
pickleball. So, the two combined are
[22:43] very inclusive for for all sorts of
people.
[22:45] » Okay. That's good to know. I think
there's a movie coming out about
[22:48] pickleball and I'm going to have to
watch it just so I understand what we're
[22:51] even talking about. I said the word just
because I know it's a hot button topic,
[22:54] but
>> [laughter]
[22:55] » That's very popular in town.
>> That's I mean, that's good. I
[23:00] I guess
I'm always fascinated when I speak to
[23:04] people from Mountainside because
everyone here seems to really love their
[23:07] community as they should, right? But
it depends on who you speak to and where
[23:11] they're coming from. Not everyone feels
that way. So, I've been trying to get to
[23:15] the root of what is it about this town
that that so many people just adore
[23:21] living here? Is it walkability? Is it
that easy access to stores? What what
[23:26] are the important things for folks who
are house hunting right now if they if
[23:30] you would like to encourage them to come
to Mountainside?
[23:33] » Mountainside is a reprieve from
everything else that's out there. To the
[23:37] east and west you have a lot of the same
and Mountainside is a diversity to a lot
[23:41] of those other things.
The community, the people gathering
[23:45] together whether it's formal or informal
things.
[23:49] Like I mentioned the the formal programs
through the recreation department can
[23:53] gather people. There's a lot of informal
book clubs. Just people like to get
[23:59] together. And and enjoy the community.
And we're we're community of volunteers.
[24:04] And these things tend to to feed on each
other. You get involved in something and
[24:08] then something else and you meet people.
And Mountainside is um
[24:13] uh lends itself to to being outdoors
quite a bit.
[24:17] » Yeah. Well, I'd say that volunteers are
a key to any functioning society. So, I
[24:22] think that that in and of itself is a
sign that people really support this
[24:27] community.
Um I I'm back to the house hunter
[24:30] question right now just cuz clearly
that's on my mind.
[24:33] » The house on
>> house hunting
[24:35] » Okay.
>> for folks who might want to be uh
[24:37] considering Mountainside.
For the kids who are attending school
[24:42] here, you mentioned that you don't have
your own high school, right? So, we're
[24:44] sending the kids outside. Is there a
choice between high schools or it's the
[24:48] the one option Berkeley Heights?
>> Well, it's the one option for the public
[24:51] schools, but we also have a lot of
excellent private high schools in the
[24:55] area and some people make that decision,
that's up to them.
[24:58] » Okay.
>> Uh
[24:59] Mountainside has a what's called a blue
ribbon school. It's means it's a top
[25:05] five uh in the country.
>> In the country?
[25:08] » only 11, I believe, in the state last
year.
[25:11] » Wow.
>> So, we have excellent school. Deerfield
[25:14] was a a blue ribbon school. And that is
a testament to the teachers, the staff,
[25:19] the board of education, and of course
the students and the parents of the
[25:23] students. Everyone has to come together
uh to make an excellent school.
[25:27] » Absolutely. I think that's really
important to know, and I I mean, I don't
[25:31] have children of my own, but I do know
that when people are house hunting, they
[25:34] tend to want to know what the public
school system is like. So, blue ribbon
[25:38] is important to know.
>> Yep. All those things that I mentioned,
[25:41] the schools, the parks, the quality of
life, have caused uh the home values in
[25:47] Mountainside to just soar.
>> Yeah.
[25:50] » And people come into Mountainside
and they invest in themselves and their
[25:54] home and a community, and they plan on
staying here for a very long time. You
[25:58] see a lot of renovations
um uh to homes in the community. So,
[26:02] people really get invested in into the
community.
[26:06] » Yeah. Forgive me, I feel like there's
there's a few flies buzzing by us and
[26:09] they're telling us that it's time to
wrap.
[26:11] » Okay.
>> [laughter]
[26:12] » I think we had a really excellent
conversation. It's been a pleasure
[26:15] speaking to you.
>> Likewise.
[26:16] » And I guess I will see you at the next
meeting, Mountainside.
[26:21] » Thank you.
>> watching.
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