1 00:00:21,615 --> 00:00:34,705 [music] out. 2 00:00:34,715 --> 00:00:39,990 » [music] 3 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:45,185 » Hey, did 4 00:00:45,195 --> 00:00:51,080 [music] 5 00:00:51,090 --> 00:00:56,975 » [music] 6 00:00:56,985 --> 00:01:03,120 [music] 7 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:05,270 >> Dolly 8 00:01:05,270 --> 00:01:05,280 » Dolly 9 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:08,120 Ball. 10 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:24,789 [music] 11 00:01:24,799 --> 00:02:02,389 Heat. Heat. 12 00:02:02,399 --> 00:02:07,830 Margie, you're muted. 13 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:11,039 Thank you. 14 00:02:11,039 --> 00:02:15,030 >> Good evening and welcome to the 893rd 15 00:02:15,030 --> 00:02:15,040 » Good evening and welcome to the 893rd 16 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:17,360 meeting of the city of Laurel Historic 17 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:20,400 District Commission. 18 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:23,040 The qualifications of the members of the 19 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:25,920 commission, the staff to the commission 20 00:02:25,920 --> 00:02:28,480 and any consultants used are on file 21 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:31,120 with the city and are hereby made a part 22 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:33,280 of each and every application heard 23 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:34,800 today. 24 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:37,360 The guidelines and procedures adopted by 25 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:39,519 the commission are also made a part of 26 00:02:39,519 --> 00:02:42,480 each and every application. 27 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:44,800 Each application heard today is 28 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:47,280 considered on its own merits and is not 29 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:49,680 to be considered as establishing a 30 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:59,350 precedent for any other application. 31 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:02,959 Since we are virtual, if you would state 32 00:03:02,959 --> 00:03:06,319 your name before you're you speak, uh 33 00:03:06,319 --> 00:03:08,959 that would be appreciated. 34 00:03:08,959 --> 00:03:10,800 And 35 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:15,200 uh we'll start with item number one. Uh 36 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:18,560 roll call. Um would you call the roll 37 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:24,229 please? Dora. 38 00:03:24,239 --> 00:03:32,789 Adora. Would you call the roll, please? 39 00:03:32,799 --> 00:03:35,760 » Did I say that right? 40 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:51,030 >> You did. I wonder if she's muted. 41 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:52,720 Uh, while we're having technical 42 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:54,560 difficulties, I will go ahead and call 43 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:56,799 the role. 44 00:03:56,799 --> 00:04:01,190 Council President Smith 45 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:03,120 » here. 46 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:04,550 >> Miss Frasier 47 00:04:04,550 --> 00:04:04,560 » Miss Frasier 48 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:07,910 >> here. 49 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:15,670 Miss Les. 50 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:16,880 » Miss Le. 51 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:18,710 >> She appears to be frozen. 52 00:04:18,710 --> 00:04:18,720 » She appears to be frozen. 53 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:19,590 >> Okay. 54 00:04:19,590 --> 00:04:19,600 » Okay. 55 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:23,270 >> But she is here. There she is. 56 00:04:23,270 --> 00:04:23,280 » But she is here. There she is. 57 00:04:23,280 --> 00:04:25,270 >> Mr. De La Point 58 00:04:25,270 --> 00:04:25,280 » Mr. De La Point 59 00:04:25,280 --> 00:04:26,629 >> here. 60 00:04:26,629 --> 00:04:26,639 » here. 61 00:04:26,639 --> 00:04:28,390 >> Miss Muhammad 62 00:04:28,390 --> 00:04:28,400 » Miss Muhammad 63 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:30,070 >> here. 64 00:04:30,070 --> 00:04:30,080 » here. 65 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:31,830 >> Miss Mcini 66 00:04:31,830 --> 00:04:31,840 » Miss Mcini 67 00:04:31,840 --> 00:04:32,469 >> here. 68 00:04:32,469 --> 00:04:32,479 » here. 69 00:04:32,479 --> 00:04:36,230 >> You have a qual. Did you call Miss Le? 70 00:04:36,230 --> 00:04:36,240 » You have a qual. Did you call Miss Le? 71 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:36,790 >> Yes. 72 00:04:36,790 --> 00:04:36,800 » Yes. 73 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,590 >> Oh, okay. 74 00:04:39,590 --> 00:04:39,600 » Oh, okay. 75 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:42,080 Thank you. All right. Item number two, 76 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:45,440 approval of last month's minutes. Are 77 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:53,189 there any corrections, discussion, 78 00:04:53,199 --> 00:05:05,270 motions to approve? 79 00:05:05,280 --> 00:05:10,070 Make a motion to approve. 80 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:13,440 » We have a motion to approve the minutes. 81 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:15,919 Do we have a second? 82 00:05:15,919 --> 00:05:17,909 >> This is Marlene Frasier. I second the 83 00:05:17,909 --> 00:05:17,919 » This is Marlene Frasier. I second the 84 00:05:17,919 --> 00:05:20,240 motion. 85 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:23,270 >> Uh would somebody call the role, please? 86 00:05:23,270 --> 00:05:23,280 » Uh would somebody call the role, please? 87 00:05:23,280 --> 00:05:29,430 Or call Yes. 88 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:35,110 Mr. Smith. 89 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:37,600 » Mr. Smith. 90 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:38,710 >> Yes. 91 00:05:38,710 --> 00:05:38,720 » Yes. 92 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:40,070 >> Miss Frasier. 93 00:05:40,070 --> 00:05:40,080 » Miss Frasier. 94 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:42,150 >> Yes. 95 00:05:42,150 --> 00:05:42,160 » Yes. 96 00:05:42,160 --> 00:06:01,749 Miss, 97 00:06:01,759 --> 00:06:05,280 » Miss Les, you're muted. 98 00:06:05,280 --> 00:06:08,880 You can press your space bar 99 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:11,600 or you could signal a thumbs up. There 100 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:13,360 you go. 101 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:15,510 >> Okay. Yes, I know. Yes. 102 00:06:15,510 --> 00:06:15,520 » Okay. Yes, I know. Yes. 103 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:19,029 >> Thank you, Mr. Deae. 104 00:06:19,029 --> 00:06:19,039 » Thank you, Mr. Deae. 105 00:06:19,039 --> 00:06:22,629 >> Yes, 106 00:06:22,639 --> 00:06:24,960 » Miss Muhammad. 107 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:26,870 >> I have to abstain. I wasn't present at 108 00:06:26,870 --> 00:06:26,880 » I have to abstain. I wasn't present at 109 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,600 last month's meeting, 110 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:31,110 >> so I'll abain. 111 00:06:31,110 --> 00:06:31,120 » so I'll abain. 112 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:37,189 >> Thank you, Miss Frasier. 113 00:06:37,199 --> 00:06:38,880 Yes, 114 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:40,230 >> Miss Mcini. 115 00:06:40,230 --> 00:06:40,240 » Miss Mcini. 116 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:40,870 >> Yes. 117 00:06:40,870 --> 00:06:40,880 » Yes. 118 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:42,390 >> Motion carries. 119 00:06:42,390 --> 00:06:42,400 » Motion carries. 120 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:44,550 >> Thank you. 121 00:06:44,550 --> 00:06:44,560 » Thank you. 122 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:49,520 Uh item number three, HDC R 123 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:52,160 2026112 124 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:57,120 for 927 McGomery Street. Uh submitted by 125 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:01,120 Mr. McWills. The applicant is seeking 126 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:04,160 uh to replace sighting and a window and 127 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:06,880 to paint. Would staff like to present 128 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:09,440 her report, please? 129 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:11,039 Good evening, Madam Chair, commission 130 00:07:11,039 --> 00:07:12,960 members. This is Alexis Williams, 131 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:15,520 planner one with ECD. The applicant is 132 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:17,280 seeking historic district commission 133 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:19,199 approval to replace siding and one 134 00:07:19,199 --> 00:07:21,520 window on west side of home. The 135 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:24,160 applicant is seeking HDC approval to 136 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:26,160 replace the siding and one window on the 137 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:28,080 west side of the house. The existing 138 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:31,280 siding will be replaced with new woodlap 139 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:34,400 siding which will be painted vast far 140 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:36,639 wheat toast to match the existing color 141 00:07:36,639 --> 00:07:38,880 of the home. The existing window is 142 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:40,960 broken and will be replaced with a new 143 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:43,599 white vinyl window of the same size and 144 00:07:43,599 --> 00:07:45,919 color as the existing window resulting 145 00:07:45,919 --> 00:07:48,160 in no change to the window or overall 146 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:50,160 appearance. Staff recommends the 147 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:52,000 Historic District Commission approve 148 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:58,790 certificate number HDC R2060112. 149 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:00,639 This concludes my report. Thank you, 150 00:08:00,639 --> 00:08:04,550 Madam Chair. 151 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:15,110 » Is the applicant here? 152 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:17,680 » Yes, I am. 153 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,230 >> Great. Um, is there anything you'd like 154 00:08:20,230 --> 00:08:20,240 » Great. Um, is there anything you'd like 155 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:21,840 to add? 156 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:24,390 >> Nope. Sounded good what she said. That's 157 00:08:24,390 --> 00:08:24,400 » Nope. Sounded good what she said. That's 158 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:26,160 that's it. 159 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:28,629 >> Okay. Are there any questions or 160 00:08:28,629 --> 00:08:28,639 » Okay. Are there any questions or 161 00:08:28,639 --> 00:08:34,149 comments from the commissioners? 162 00:08:34,159 --> 00:08:36,719 » No. 163 00:08:36,719 --> 00:08:41,509 >> Okay. I have a concern that if you put 164 00:08:41,509 --> 00:08:41,519 » Okay. I have a concern that if you put 165 00:08:41,519 --> 00:08:45,519 the same paint on the new siding that it 166 00:08:45,519 --> 00:08:48,240 might be different from the paint that 167 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:51,440 you put on however many years ago. How 168 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:54,080 long ago did you paint the house? 169 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:55,670 >> I just I just [clears throat] did the 170 00:08:55,670 --> 00:08:55,680 » I just I just [clears throat] did the 171 00:08:55,680 --> 00:08:56,959 same thing on the other side of the 172 00:08:56,959 --> 00:08:59,519 house two years ago and had the whole 173 00:08:59,519 --> 00:09:02,800 house painted that time. 174 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:05,600 And it's it will be just and I will be 175 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:08,640 painting the whole west side this time 176 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:10,640 again. 177 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:11,030 >> Right. 178 00:09:11,030 --> 00:09:11,040 » Right. 179 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:13,829 >> So So it's not that old the paint job. 180 00:09:13,829 --> 00:09:13,839 » So So it's not that old the paint job. 181 00:09:13,839 --> 00:09:16,470 >> Okay. So that was really my concern 182 00:09:16,470 --> 00:09:16,480 » Okay. So that was really my concern 183 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:20,160 because paint can really really fade. 184 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:22,150 >> Yep. Got you on that. 185 00:09:22,150 --> 00:09:22,160 » Yep. Got you on that. 186 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:29,509 >> Okay. 187 00:09:29,519 --> 00:09:31,821 Anyone else? 188 00:09:31,821 --> 00:09:32,640 [clears throat] 189 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:36,720 I'd be happy to entertain a motion. 190 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:38,959 Um, I'll entertain a motion. I'm I'm not 191 00:09:38,959 --> 00:09:40,880 the [laughter] chair here. I'm sorry. 192 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:43,680 I'll make a motion to approve HDC 193 00:09:43,680 --> 00:09:46,240 R20260112 194 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:49,920 from 927 Montgomery Street. 195 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:52,550 >> Thank you. Is there a second? 196 00:09:52,550 --> 00:09:52,560 » Thank you. Is there a second? 197 00:09:52,560 --> 00:09:56,070 >> I'll second that motion. 198 00:09:56,070 --> 00:09:56,080 » I'll second that motion. 199 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:57,910 >> Was that Miss Muhammad? 200 00:09:57,910 --> 00:09:57,920 » Was that Miss Muhammad? 201 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:00,790 >> Yes. 202 00:10:00,790 --> 00:10:00,800 » Yes. 203 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:12,949 Have a motion to approve and a second. 204 00:10:12,959 --> 00:10:16,240 Adura, could you call the names for the 205 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:17,760 vote, please? 206 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:22,150 >> Council President Smith. 207 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:24,240 » Miss Muhammad. 208 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:25,590 >> Yes. 209 00:10:25,590 --> 00:10:25,600 » Yes. 210 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:26,949 >> Miss Raer. 211 00:10:26,949 --> 00:10:26,959 » Miss Raer. 212 00:10:26,959 --> 00:10:28,710 >> Yes. 213 00:10:28,710 --> 00:10:28,720 » Yes. 214 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:29,839 Miss LZ. 215 00:10:29,839 --> 00:10:33,030 >> Yes. 216 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:34,800 » Miss Mini. 217 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:41,030 >> Yes. 218 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:45,670 Motion carries. 219 00:10:45,680 --> 00:10:49,350 » Thank you. 220 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:51,519 » Thank you for coming. I appreciate 221 00:10:51,519 --> 00:10:53,519 you're coming to answer our questions 222 00:10:53,519 --> 00:10:57,120 and happy painting. Madame Chair, may I 223 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:58,480 say something before the applicant 224 00:10:58,480 --> 00:10:59,680 leaves? 225 00:10:59,680 --> 00:11:00,310 >> Sure. 226 00:11:00,310 --> 00:11:00,320 » Sure. 227 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:03,350 >> I apologize. This is ECD director Mishi. 228 00:11:03,350 --> 00:11:03,360 » I apologize. This is ECD director Mishi. 229 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:06,079 Um, I want to let everybody on the call, 230 00:11:06,079 --> 00:11:08,399 uh, particularly applicants know that 231 00:11:08,399 --> 00:11:11,120 the city has recently been the victim of 232 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:15,360 some scam attempts. Uh following 233 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:18,480 commission or board meetings, uh there 234 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:21,360 are scammers who are sending an email to 235 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:24,079 applicants pretending to be the city and 236 00:11:24,079 --> 00:11:28,160 asking them to wire a payment uh as the 237 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:30,959 final step of getting their approval. Um 238 00:11:30,959 --> 00:11:32,560 we have been in contact with the Laurel 239 00:11:32,560 --> 00:11:35,120 Police Department uh and with our IT 240 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:39,600 folks. Um but uh paying the the 241 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:41,680 department of uh fire marshall and 242 00:11:41,680 --> 00:11:45,440 permit services um check or online 243 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:48,079 through the permit portal or 244 00:11:48,079 --> 00:11:51,600 uh I'm paying uh here at ECD um are the 245 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:53,040 only ways to pay. We will never ask you 246 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:56,560 to wire money. Um so if uh anybody does 247 00:11:56,560 --> 00:11:58,320 receive a solicitation like that, I 248 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:00,880 apologize uh and always feel confident 249 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:02,720 calling us to check and make sure that 250 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:05,120 an invoice is real. Thank you, Madam 251 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:06,720 Chair. 252 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:08,710 >> Sure. 253 00:12:08,710 --> 00:12:08,720 » Sure. 254 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:14,389 >> Thank Thank you all. 255 00:12:14,399 --> 00:12:20,710 » Agenda item four, HDCR R2026-0109 256 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:24,000 for 25 Post Office Avenue submitted by 257 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,720 Margaret Samuels. The applicant is 258 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:30,480 seeking to put in a concrete driveway 259 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:33,440 instead of an already approved asphalt 260 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:35,760 driveway. Miss Williams, would you like 261 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:38,240 to present your report? 262 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:39,829 >> Good evening, Madam Chair, commission 263 00:12:39,829 --> 00:12:39,839 » Good evening, Madam Chair, commission 264 00:12:39,839 --> 00:12:41,519 members. This is Alexis Williams, 265 00:12:41,519 --> 00:12:43,200 planner one. 266 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:44,710 >> The applicant is seeking historic 267 00:12:44,710 --> 00:12:44,720 » The applicant is seeking historic 268 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:47,760 district commission to approval to amend 269 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:50,000 driveway material. The applicant is 270 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,079 seeking HDC approval to amend a 271 00:12:52,079 --> 00:12:54,480 previously approved driveway material. 272 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:55,920 The historic district commission 273 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:58,639 approved an asphalt driveway during the 274 00:12:58,639 --> 00:13:02,959 during the March 2026 HDC meeting. The 275 00:13:02,959 --> 00:13:05,040 applicant is now requesting approval to 276 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:07,040 install a concrete driveway in its 277 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:09,279 place. The applicant states that 278 00:13:09,279 --> 00:13:11,279 concrete has a longer service life than 279 00:13:11,279 --> 00:13:13,200 asphalt and requires less routine 280 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:15,680 maintenance over time. Additionally, the 281 00:13:15,680 --> 00:13:17,680 proposed concrete driveway will be 282 00:13:17,680 --> 00:13:19,600 better match the existing concrete 283 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:21,760 garage foundation and the existing 284 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:24,240 concrete walkway that connects to the 285 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:26,800 driveway, creating a more cohesive 286 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:28,800 appearance on the property. The 287 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:30,800 applicant also notes that using the same 288 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:32,800 material for these connected features 289 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:36,480 may help minimize the vententral thermal 290 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:39,360 expansion between adjacent surfaces. 291 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:41,839 Staff recommends the historic commission 292 00:13:41,839 --> 00:13:43,680 district commission approved certificate 293 00:13:43,680 --> 00:13:49,350 number HDC R202609. 294 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:51,360 This concludes my report. Thank you 295 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:55,110 madam chair. 296 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:57,680 » And is the applicant 297 00:13:57,680 --> 00:14:06,949 here? 298 00:14:06,959 --> 00:14:09,040 Are there any questions for Miss 299 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:24,470 Williams? 300 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:33,110 » Could I entertain a motion? 301 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:35,600 I would like to move that we approve 302 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:37,120 HDCR 303 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:43,199 2026 01 09 for 25 Post a P post office 304 00:14:43,199 --> 00:14:45,600 avenue. 305 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:48,629 >> I second that. 306 00:14:48,629 --> 00:14:48,639 » I second that. 307 00:14:48,639 --> 00:14:50,949 >> Thank you. We have a motion to approve 308 00:14:50,949 --> 00:14:50,959 » Thank you. We have a motion to approve 309 00:14:50,959 --> 00:14:53,600 from Miss Frasier and a second from Mr. 310 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:56,240 De Laente. Would you call the role, 311 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:58,000 please? 312 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,790 >> Miss Frasier. Yes, 313 00:15:00,790 --> 00:15:00,800 » Miss Frasier. Yes, 314 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:02,629 >> Mr. Del. 315 00:15:02,629 --> 00:15:02,639 » Mr. Del. 316 00:15:02,639 --> 00:15:04,069 >> Yes, 317 00:15:04,069 --> 00:15:04,079 » Yes, 318 00:15:04,079 --> 00:15:06,069 >> Council President Smith. 319 00:15:06,069 --> 00:15:06,079 » Council President Smith. 320 00:15:06,079 --> 00:15:07,110 >> Yes, 321 00:15:07,110 --> 00:15:07,120 » Yes, 322 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:08,230 >> Miss Les. 323 00:15:08,230 --> 00:15:08,240 » Miss Les. 324 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:09,750 >> Yes, 325 00:15:09,750 --> 00:15:09,760 » Yes, 326 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:13,829 >> Miss Muhammad. 327 00:15:13,839 --> 00:15:14,639 » Miss Muhammad. 328 00:15:14,639 --> 00:15:16,470 >> Yes. Yes, 329 00:15:16,470 --> 00:15:16,480 » Yes. Yes, 330 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:18,230 >> Miss Mcini. 331 00:15:18,230 --> 00:15:18,240 » Miss Mcini. 332 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:20,150 >> Yes. 333 00:15:20,150 --> 00:15:20,160 » Yes. 334 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:21,670 >> Motion carries. 335 00:15:21,670 --> 00:15:21,680 » Motion carries. 336 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:24,470 >> Thank you. 337 00:15:24,470 --> 00:15:24,480 » Thank you. 338 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:30,710 Item number five, HDC 339 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:34,399 Sorry. HDCR 2026 340 00:15:34,399 --> 00:15:36,480 0106 341 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:39,680 for 404 McGomery Street submitted by 342 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:42,160 Steven Wallace. The applicant is seeking 343 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:44,000 to replace 344 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:46,880 the windows of his house. Miss Williams, 345 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:49,360 would you like to present your report? 346 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:51,030 >> Good evening, Madam Chair, commission 347 00:15:51,030 --> 00:15:51,040 » Good evening, Madam Chair, commission 348 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:52,560 members. This is Alexis Williams, 349 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:54,880 planner one with ECD. The applicant is 350 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:56,399 seeking historic district commission 351 00:15:56,399 --> 00:15:59,199 approval to replace 36 windows. The 352 00:15:59,199 --> 00:16:01,279 applicant is seeking HDC approval to 353 00:16:01,279 --> 00:16:02,880 replace the existing windows at the 354 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:05,199 property. The proposed work includes the 355 00:16:05,199 --> 00:16:07,199 replacement of 36 windows, including 356 00:16:07,199 --> 00:16:09,600 those located in the attic and basement. 357 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:11,519 The replacement windows will fit within 358 00:16:11,519 --> 00:16:13,519 the existing window openings and will be 359 00:16:13,519 --> 00:16:15,680 double hung with a single light, no 360 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:18,079 divided panes design that matches the 361 00:16:18,079 --> 00:16:20,399 existing window style. The existing 362 00:16:20,399 --> 00:16:22,079 windows have exceeded their useful 363 00:16:22,079 --> 00:16:26,880 service life and are in dapitated state. 364 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:28,720 The project proposes replacing a 365 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:31,759 combination of original wool wood single 366 00:16:31,759 --> 00:16:34,639 pane windows with added storm windows as 367 00:16:34,639 --> 00:16:37,680 lower quality vinyl only replacement 368 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:39,360 windows that have been installed over 369 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:42,320 time. Many of the existing windows in is 370 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:45,519 inoperable. Certain broken panes of 371 00:16:45,519 --> 00:16:48,320 glass and will not o remain open without 372 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:50,880 falling shut creating a safety hazard. 373 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:53,360 The proposed replacement windows will be 374 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:56,320 marvin double hung unit with solid wood 375 00:16:56,320 --> 00:17:00,000 interiors and vinyl clad exteriors. The 376 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:01,680 windows will feature insulated 377 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:03,680 doublepane glass to improve energy 378 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:05,679 efficiency, thermal performance, and 379 00:17:05,679 --> 00:17:08,079 occupant comfort while maintaining the 380 00:17:08,079 --> 00:17:10,160 appearance of the existing windows. The 381 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:11,919 existing frames will be placed with 382 00:17:11,919 --> 00:17:14,559 vinyl wrapped wood frames, and all 383 00:17:14,559 --> 00:17:16,720 exterior of components will be painted 384 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:18,640 white to match the existing 385 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:21,360 architectural style. Staff recommends 386 00:17:21,360 --> 00:17:23,360 the Historic District Commission approve 387 00:17:23,360 --> 00:17:29,750 certificate number HDCR R206106. 388 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:31,679 This concludes my report. Thank you, 389 00:17:31,679 --> 00:17:34,720 Madam Chair. 390 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:40,870 >> Thank you. And is the applicant present? 391 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:42,720 » Yes, I am. 392 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:44,470 >> Great. Do you have anything you'd like 393 00:17:44,470 --> 00:17:44,480 » Great. Do you have anything you'd like 394 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:46,160 to add? 395 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:47,679 Uh, I think Miss Williams made the 396 00:17:47,679 --> 00:17:50,000 windows sound really good, so I'm I'm 397 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,160 even happier to be buying them. I'm 398 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:53,440 happy to answer questions. I don't think 399 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:55,360 I have anything to add. 400 00:17:55,360 --> 00:17:59,190 >> Okay. Uh, commissioners, questions, 401 00:17:59,190 --> 00:17:59,200 » Okay. Uh, commissioners, questions, 402 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:00,640 comments. 403 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:02,230 >> I have two questions. 404 00:18:02,230 --> 00:18:02,240 » I have two questions. 405 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:03,270 >> Yes, Miss Frasier. 406 00:18:03,270 --> 00:18:03,280 » Yes, Miss Frasier. 407 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:05,909 >> One is, what is your plan for the Queen 408 00:18:05,909 --> 00:18:05,919 » One is, what is your plan for the Queen 409 00:18:05,919 --> 00:18:08,720 Anne window next to the front door? 410 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:11,270 >> That window is not going to be replaced. 411 00:18:11,270 --> 00:18:11,280 » That window is not going to be replaced. 412 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:15,750 >> Okay. Um my other question is 413 00:18:15,750 --> 00:18:15,760 » Okay. Um my other question is 414 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:20,000 it's the guidelines suggest that um 415 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:22,960 windows be appropriate to the 416 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:26,400 architecture of the house and when that 417 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:29,919 house was built it would not have had 418 00:18:29,919 --> 00:18:33,120 blank windows with no 419 00:18:33,120 --> 00:18:35,520 uh mullions 420 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:38,400 no or what they're calling paneling. 421 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:40,559 Um, you don't need it on all of them, 422 00:18:40,559 --> 00:18:43,919 but maybe on the larger street facing 423 00:18:43,919 --> 00:18:46,400 windows, would you consider adding 424 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:50,799 ammonium to make them two over one? 425 00:18:50,799 --> 00:18:54,310 >> Um, we have uh, sorry buddy, you have to 426 00:18:54,310 --> 00:18:54,320 » Um, we have uh, sorry buddy, you have to 427 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:58,080 go out. We have it's a big variety in 428 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:00,559 the house right now. Sorry, I have an 429 00:19:00,559 --> 00:19:09,270 intruder. 430 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:11,840 5-year-olds being notorious 431 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:14,080 uh for respecting Zoom. 432 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:16,310 >> Um 433 00:19:16,310 --> 00:19:16,320 » Um 434 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:19,919 we would uh prefer not to. The house has 435 00:19:19,919 --> 00:19:25,039 a has a mod podge of of varieties and 436 00:19:25,039 --> 00:19:27,039 most of the oldest windows are actually 437 00:19:27,039 --> 00:19:31,280 the ones that have no paneling. 438 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:31,760 Um 439 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:35,190 >> originally they were okay. I've seen a 440 00:19:35,190 --> 00:19:35,200 » originally they were okay. I've seen a 441 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:36,799 picture of the house when it was very 442 00:19:36,799 --> 00:19:37,679 very young. 443 00:19:37,679 --> 00:19:41,510 >> Sure. Uh my my preference is is not to I 444 00:19:41,510 --> 00:19:41,520 » Sure. Uh my my preference is is not to I 445 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:43,440 understand the 446 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:46,640 uh the point, but the preference is not 447 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:50,549 to. 448 00:19:50,559 --> 00:20:05,590 » Well, that's a shame. 449 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:08,320 Are there any other comments, 450 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:11,990 questions? 451 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:15,440 » Like to make a motion to approve. 452 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:19,029 >> Okay. 453 00:20:19,039 --> 00:20:22,960 » This is Mary Alene. I'll second. 454 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:25,909 >> Thank you. We have a motion to approve 455 00:20:25,909 --> 00:20:25,919 » Thank you. We have a motion to approve 456 00:20:25,919 --> 00:20:28,559 from Council President Smith and a 457 00:20:28,559 --> 00:20:30,960 second from Ms. Les. Would you call the 458 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:34,720 role, please? Council President Smith. 459 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:35,909 >> Yes. 460 00:20:35,909 --> 00:20:35,919 » Yes. 461 00:20:35,919 --> 00:20:37,350 >> Miss Lass. 462 00:20:37,350 --> 00:20:37,360 » Miss Lass. 463 00:20:37,360 --> 00:20:38,310 >> Yes. 464 00:20:38,310 --> 00:20:38,320 » Yes. 465 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:40,310 >> Miss Frasier 466 00:20:40,310 --> 00:20:40,320 » Miss Frasier 467 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:43,590 >> with reservations. [clears throat] 468 00:20:43,590 --> 00:20:43,600 » with reservations. [clears throat] 469 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:45,590 >> Mr. Delopren. 470 00:20:45,590 --> 00:20:45,600 » Mr. Delopren. 471 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:46,870 >> Yes. 472 00:20:46,870 --> 00:20:46,880 » Yes. 473 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:49,590 >> Miss Muhammed. 474 00:20:49,590 --> 00:20:49,600 » Miss Muhammed. 475 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:50,870 >> Yes. 476 00:20:50,870 --> 00:20:50,880 » Yes. 477 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:52,710 >> Miss Mcini. 478 00:20:52,710 --> 00:20:52,720 » Miss Mcini. 479 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,669 >> Yes. 480 00:20:55,669 --> 00:20:55,679 » Yes. 481 00:20:55,679 --> 00:20:57,430 >> Motion carries. 482 00:20:57,430 --> 00:20:57,440 » Motion carries. 483 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:00,390 >> Thank you. Luck with your project, Mr. 484 00:21:00,390 --> 00:21:00,400 » Thank you. Luck with your project, Mr. 485 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:01,760 Wallace. 486 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:05,919 Uh, thank you very much. Appreciate it. 487 00:21:05,919 --> 00:21:13,190 >> Agenda item number six, HDCR R2026-0115 488 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:17,760 for 339 Laurel Avenue submitted by 489 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,000 Francisco Martinez. 490 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,000 applicant 491 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:23,600 is 492 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:28,000 uh seeking replacement of windows and 493 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:32,559 painting house and roof. Miss Williams, 494 00:21:32,559 --> 00:21:34,960 would you like to present your report? 495 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:36,549 >> Good evening, madam chair and commission 496 00:21:36,549 --> 00:21:36,559 » Good evening, madam chair and commission 497 00:21:36,559 --> 00:21:38,320 members. This is Alexis Williams, 498 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:40,640 planner one with ECD. The applicant is 499 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:42,320 seeking historic district commission 500 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:44,559 approval to repaint the roof and siding 501 00:21:44,559 --> 00:21:48,080 and trim and to replace the existing 502 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,960 windows. The applicant is seeking HDC 503 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,039 approval to replace the existing roof, 504 00:21:53,039 --> 00:21:54,880 repaint the exterior siding and trim, 505 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:56,720 and to replace the existing exterior 506 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,280 windows. The existing green laminated 507 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:02,480 roof will be repainted with rust oium 508 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:05,440 gloss black coating. 509 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,679 The ex exterior siding and trim will be 510 00:22:07,679 --> 00:22:14,870 painted white using unifed 511 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,520 window and door pro series vinyl windows 512 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,080 featuring white interior and exterior 513 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:22,880 finishes. The ex the replacement windows 514 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,200 will be installed within the existing 515 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:28,159 window opening. Staff recommends the 516 00:22:28,159 --> 00:22:30,080 historic district commission approved 517 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:36,549 certificate number HDCR206115. 518 00:22:36,559 --> 00:22:38,320 This concludes my report. Thank you, 519 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:41,280 Madam Chair. 520 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:46,470 >> Is the applicant in attendance? 521 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:47,840 » Hi. 522 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:52,159 Um, so I've got a question to begin with 523 00:22:52,159 --> 00:22:54,240 and I don't know if this who this should 524 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,159 be for exactly, but there was no window 525 00:22:56,159 --> 00:23:03,190 survey, 526 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,440 but the questionnaire wasn't isn't 527 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:06,000 there. 528 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:07,029 >> Yes. 529 00:23:07,029 --> 00:23:07,039 » Yes. 530 00:23:07,039 --> 00:23:09,029 >> Yes, I'm Francisco. I'm here in the 531 00:23:09,029 --> 00:23:09,039 » Yes, I'm Francisco. I'm here in the 532 00:23:09,039 --> 00:23:10,720 meeting. 533 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,430 >> Hello. 534 00:23:13,430 --> 00:23:13,440 » Hello. 535 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:15,590 >> Oh, I'm sorry. 536 00:23:15,590 --> 00:23:15,600 » Oh, I'm sorry. 537 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,470 >> I'm Francisco. 538 00:23:18,470 --> 00:23:18,480 » I'm Francisco. 539 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:22,000 Yes. Thank you. All right. I apologize. 540 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:29,110 I 541 00:23:29,120 --> 00:23:32,400 » You understand English, Mr. Martinez? 542 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,870 >> Uh, yes. 543 00:23:34,870 --> 00:23:34,880 » Uh, yes. 544 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:36,549 >> Um, 545 00:23:36,549 --> 00:23:36,559 » Um, 546 00:23:36,559 --> 00:23:38,159 so commissioners, do you have any 547 00:23:38,159 --> 00:23:44,950 questions? 548 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:46,480 you. 549 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:51,270 >> Well, I have a I have a concern about um 550 00:23:51,270 --> 00:23:51,280 » Well, I have a I have a concern about um 551 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:54,480 the paint on your roof and it's a metal 552 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:58,159 roof, not a laminate roof or enamel 553 00:23:58,159 --> 00:24:01,520 roof. Um 554 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:05,200 I am concerned that it is lead paint and 555 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,919 about your you know that roof needs to 556 00:24:07,919 --> 00:24:10,880 be scraped. 557 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:12,960 Is what are you doing about the lead 558 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,679 paint? 559 00:24:15,679 --> 00:24:19,520 Uh the the 560 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:22,880 uh scraper the the paint is very bad. 561 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,200 They scrape it the paint and then put 562 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,480 the the two coins the the the 563 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:30,320 roof and paint. 564 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:33,590 >> Well, the concern is what happens to the 565 00:24:33,590 --> 00:24:33,600 » Well, the concern is what happens to the 566 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:37,039 paint that you scrape off. 567 00:24:37,039 --> 00:24:41,919 You need to properly remove lead paint. 568 00:24:41,919 --> 00:24:46,080 Uh, must be just a scraper and and just 569 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:49,919 uh do a power washer and then put a new 570 00:24:49,919 --> 00:24:51,120 paint. 571 00:24:51,120 --> 00:24:53,510 >> Okay. Well, you need to be able to 572 00:24:53,510 --> 00:24:53,520 » Okay. Well, you need to be able to 573 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:56,400 collect everything you scrape off. 574 00:24:56,400 --> 00:25:00,390 >> Oh, yes. Yes. Uh, let's try to uh uh to 575 00:25:00,390 --> 00:25:00,400 » Oh, yes. Yes. Uh, let's try to uh uh to 576 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:08,950 to put all together in a plastic bag. 577 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,520 » Are you going I'm sorry. I have a 578 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:13,120 question. Are you going to be doing all 579 00:25:13,120 --> 00:25:15,039 this work yourself? 580 00:25:15,039 --> 00:25:18,630 >> Uh, yes. 581 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,200 » So, did you say you were going to put 582 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,200 plastic down? 583 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,909 >> Just put a plastic down. Let's get a put 584 00:25:25,909 --> 00:25:25,919 » Just put a plastic down. Let's get a put 585 00:25:25,919 --> 00:25:28,720 a plastic down and and then we scrape it 586 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:35,110 to the the scraper paint come a plastic. 587 00:25:35,120 --> 00:25:36,960 I'm just a little bit concerned that the 588 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:42,230 lead paint is properly disposed. 589 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:43,919 Uh 590 00:25:43,919 --> 00:25:44,630 >> yes I am. 591 00:25:44,630 --> 00:25:44,640 » yes I am. 592 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,909 >> Yes I am. Yes. Uh we did script it very 593 00:25:47,909 --> 00:25:47,919 » Yes I am. Yes. Uh we did script it very 594 00:25:47,919 --> 00:25:51,039 well. Yes. Do a power washer and let's 595 00:25:51,039 --> 00:25:53,440 put two coins of paint 596 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:57,750 >> for the roof paint. 597 00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:59,679 » Okay. I 598 00:25:59,679 --> 00:26:02,480 Mr. Mishi. Does the city have rules 599 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,880 about this? I know when I'm in the house 600 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:08,080 that I'm in, we had the the paint the 601 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:11,279 lead paint removed from the entire 602 00:26:11,279 --> 00:26:15,360 house. Not the roof was not a a painted 603 00:26:15,360 --> 00:26:19,279 roof. Um, but there were vacuums 604 00:26:19,279 --> 00:26:21,919 attached to the scrapers. There were 605 00:26:21,919 --> 00:26:24,080 drop claws all around the house to 606 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:28,080 collect anything that escaped. You know, 607 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:31,360 power washing seems like it would spread 608 00:26:31,360 --> 00:26:35,760 flakes of paint all over. 609 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:39,510 >> I know when you hire a company to do it, 610 00:26:39,510 --> 00:26:39,520 » I know when you hire a company to do it, 611 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:41,520 they have to be certified in lead 612 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:42,880 abatement 613 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:47,909 >> to do that kind of work. 614 00:26:47,919 --> 00:26:50,400 So typically 615 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,320 we meaning economic and community 616 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:56,240 development um don't get that engaged 617 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:57,919 with what's on the building with 618 00:26:57,919 --> 00:26:59,200 building materials and so on and so 619 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,640 forth. That's generally handled by FMPS 620 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:03,760 the department of fire marshall and 621 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,799 permit services. Um 622 00:27:06,799 --> 00:27:09,840 and I am happy to facilitate a 623 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,559 conversation between the applicant and 624 00:27:12,559 --> 00:27:15,919 FMPS. I obviously don't want lead paint 625 00:27:15,919 --> 00:27:20,240 chips floating anywhere um in the city. 626 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:24,480 Um a brief search on the city website 627 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,200 doesn't lead to anything about lead 628 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,200 paint regulations. 629 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,279 Um but I do know obviously that they 630 00:27:31,279 --> 00:27:33,840 exist nationally. 631 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,470 >> The county I believe was also 632 00:27:36,470 --> 00:27:36,480 » The county I believe was also 633 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:37,110 >> Okay. 634 00:27:37,110 --> 00:27:37,120 » Okay. 635 00:27:37,120 --> 00:27:38,710 >> Yeah. [clears throat] 636 00:27:38,710 --> 00:27:38,720 » Yeah. [clears throat] 637 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,480 What is this? 638 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:44,549 >> So, I am happy to uh if you want to do a 639 00:27:44,549 --> 00:27:44,559 » So, I am happy to uh if you want to do a 640 00:27:44,559 --> 00:27:47,039 conditional approval or if you think I 641 00:27:47,039 --> 00:27:49,200 would say tableabling it if you'd like, 642 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:52,640 but the August recess obviously causes 643 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:57,430 me some concern. 644 00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,240 » I have one other comment. 645 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,159 the paint, excuse [clears throat] me, 646 00:28:02,159 --> 00:28:04,559 the paint that was specified in the 647 00:28:04,559 --> 00:28:06,399 application, 648 00:28:06,399 --> 00:28:09,990 >> the manufacturer themselves on have said 649 00:28:09,990 --> 00:28:10,000 » the manufacturer themselves on have said 650 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,159 that it is not suitable for a metal 651 00:28:12,159 --> 00:28:14,320 roof. 652 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,480 It's 653 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,960 you need paint that will sort of have a 654 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,520 little bit of flexibility and that paint 655 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,000 is very rigid. 656 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:28,320 It won't move when it heats and cools. 657 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:33,039 So you can contact the um manufacturer 658 00:28:33,039 --> 00:28:36,559 if you want to use Rustoleum and there 659 00:28:36,559 --> 00:28:38,399 are other paint brands that are 660 00:28:38,399 --> 00:28:43,520 specifically made for old metal roofs. 661 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,240 You have um if if you just say a metal 662 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,720 roof, you're going to wind up with with 663 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:50,399 something that that isn't going to work 664 00:28:50,399 --> 00:28:52,960 for you either. It's got it's turned 665 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,360 steel 666 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:56,880 and 667 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,039 it's not like the modern metal roofs 668 00:28:59,039 --> 00:29:01,600 that you see on a shopping center. Those 669 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:05,520 require some very, very fancy paint. 670 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:09,039 The kind of roof you have does not. 671 00:29:09,039 --> 00:29:11,760 But if you use this paint, it'll crack 672 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:17,110 and flake just like what you have now. 673 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:18,960 » Good afternoon everyone. Sorry I was 674 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,840 waiting. This is Rahul Castillo on my on 675 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,640 behalf with Francisco Martinez. I got in 676 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:26,960 a I was waiting on the on the waiting 677 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:30,480 room to get in the meeting. Uh my bad 678 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:32,159 for not getting in there as soon as 679 00:29:32,159 --> 00:29:33,679 possible. 680 00:29:33,679 --> 00:29:36,149 >> It's okay. We're happy to have you now. 681 00:29:36,149 --> 00:29:36,159 » It's okay. We're happy to have you now. 682 00:29:36,159 --> 00:29:39,110 >> Happy to be here. Happy to join you guys 683 00:29:39,110 --> 00:29:39,120 » Happy to be here. Happy to join you guys 684 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:43,760 on uh on on on this meeting. 685 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:45,590 >> Did you hear the comments that were made 686 00:29:45,590 --> 00:29:45,600 » Did you hear the comments that were made 687 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:46,640 earlier? 688 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,110 >> No. No, I was not able to hear them. I 689 00:29:49,110 --> 00:29:49,120 » No. No, I was not able to hear them. I 690 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:50,720 don't know if you have the time to uh go 691 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:52,480 over the comments real quick and I can 692 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,240 give feedback. 693 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,710 >> We we sure do. So, I'm I'm going to 694 00:29:56,710 --> 00:29:56,720 » We we sure do. So, I'm I'm going to 695 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,200 start with with mine. Um 696 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:00,149 >> yes. 697 00:30:00,149 --> 00:30:00,159 » yes. 698 00:30:00,159 --> 00:30:05,430 >> So, I just looked up that um 699 00:30:05,430 --> 00:30:05,440 » So, I just looked up that um 700 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,720 the lead abatement does rule does not 701 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,600 apply to owners who perform work in 702 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,279 their own residence. 703 00:30:13,279 --> 00:30:15,190 >> Correct. 704 00:30:15,190 --> 00:30:15,200 » Correct. 705 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:19,750 >> Which is surprising to me. Um, okay. And 706 00:30:19,750 --> 00:30:19,760 » Which is surprising to me. Um, okay. And 707 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,960 then Miss Frasier has a concern about 708 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:24,159 the paint. 709 00:30:24,159 --> 00:30:25,750 >> So, 710 00:30:25,750 --> 00:30:25,760 » So, 711 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:29,029 >> the paint that was selected, um, the 712 00:30:29,029 --> 00:30:29,039 » the paint that was selected, um, the 713 00:30:29,039 --> 00:30:34,240 Rustoleum 3931 191, if you look on the 714 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,520 in the Rustoleum 715 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,159 site, they do not recommend that for a 716 00:30:40,159 --> 00:30:41,520 metal roof, 717 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:43,830 >> okay? because it's brittle 718 00:30:43,830 --> 00:30:43,840 » okay? because it's brittle 719 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:45,590 >> and when you have 720 00:30:45,590 --> 00:30:45,600 » and when you have 721 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:47,750 >> expansion and contraction, it'll flake 722 00:30:47,750 --> 00:30:47,760 » expansion and contraction, it'll flake 723 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,080 just like what you got now. 724 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:51,510 >> So, um 725 00:30:51,510 --> 00:30:51,520 » So, um 726 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,269 >> you need something that's appropriate 727 00:30:53,269 --> 00:30:53,279 » you need something that's appropriate 728 00:30:53,279 --> 00:30:58,159 for an old turn steel roof. 729 00:30:58,159 --> 00:31:00,310 >> Yeah. And I was looking at the email uh 730 00:31:00,310 --> 00:31:00,320 » Yeah. And I was looking at the email uh 731 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,720 you recommend the Rostellian 732 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,200 uh Calabar uh some other waterproofing. 733 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:06,960 We can definitely uh send that over to 734 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:08,720 you with the product data of the color 735 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:10,559 that we're going to use if that if 736 00:31:10,559 --> 00:31:12,799 that's okay. and and uh it shouldn't be 737 00:31:12,799 --> 00:31:16,000 an issue. We can pick the the actual uh 738 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,080 an actual better brand that can actually 739 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,240 withhold for uh not just five but 10 740 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,240 years. 741 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:23,669 >> That would be good. 742 00:31:23,669 --> 00:31:23,679 » That would be good. 743 00:31:23,679 --> 00:31:25,110 >> Yeah. Yeah, I can do that. I can send 744 00:31:25,110 --> 00:31:25,120 » Yeah. Yeah, I can do that. I can send 745 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,000 that over tomorrow. Um if uh if you have 746 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:29,520 any other comments, I can I can get 747 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,480 working on that tomorrow morning. Uh the 748 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,159 color doesn't matter because my dad was 749 00:31:34,159 --> 00:31:39,110 thinking of painting it black. 750 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,640 » Doesn't matter. It would be hot. 751 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:48,950 >> Yeah, it will be hot. Yes, I agree. 752 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:52,640 Are there any black metal roofs 753 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,799 around? 754 00:31:54,799 --> 00:31:57,029 >> Uh, I won't be able to tell you if there 755 00:31:57,029 --> 00:31:57,039 » Uh, I won't be able to tell you if there 756 00:31:57,039 --> 00:31:57,600 is. 757 00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:58,710 >> I was thinking more of the 758 00:31:58,710 --> 00:31:58,720 » I was thinking more of the 759 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:00,640 commissioners. I'm I'm sitting here 760 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,039 trying to picture a black metal roof in 761 00:32:03,039 --> 00:32:04,720 town. 762 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:08,640 We have the metal roof over the um 763 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:10,549 >> front porch. 764 00:32:10,549 --> 00:32:10,559 » front porch. 765 00:32:10,559 --> 00:32:11,750 >> That's metal. 766 00:32:11,750 --> 00:32:11,760 » That's metal. 767 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:16,389 >> Okay. 768 00:32:16,399 --> 00:32:19,039 » It was just a a general comment, you 769 00:32:19,039 --> 00:32:20,080 know. 770 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:25,909 >> Okay. Perfect. 771 00:32:25,919 --> 00:32:27,679 » Are there any other comments or 772 00:32:27,679 --> 00:32:35,830 questions? 773 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,480 All right. Would anyone like to make a 774 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:49,830 motion? 775 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,159 » I'd like to make a motion to approve 776 00:32:52,159 --> 00:32:56,789 HDCR20260115 777 00:32:56,799 --> 00:33:01,039 for 339 Laurel Avenue. 778 00:33:01,039 --> 00:33:03,760 with the Would you like to add the 779 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:08,640 condition that they use an appropriate 780 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,519 paint for an old roof? 781 00:33:11,519 --> 00:33:15,190 >> Yes. Using an appropriate paint for a 782 00:33:15,190 --> 00:33:15,200 » Yes. Using an appropriate paint for a 783 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,559 vintage metal roof 784 00:33:18,559 --> 00:33:20,070 >> shouldn't be an issue. 785 00:33:20,070 --> 00:33:20,080 » shouldn't be an issue. 786 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,230 >> Okay, 787 00:33:22,230 --> 00:33:22,240 » Okay, 788 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:25,440 I'll second that. 789 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,480 We have a motion to approve from Miss 790 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,200 Frasier and a second from Council 791 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,200 President Smith. Would you call the 792 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,039 role, please? 793 00:33:35,039 --> 00:33:36,310 >> Miss Frasier? 794 00:33:36,310 --> 00:33:36,320 » Miss Frasier? 795 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:37,350 >> Yes. 796 00:33:37,350 --> 00:33:37,360 » Yes. 797 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,350 >> Council President Smith? 798 00:33:39,350 --> 00:33:39,360 » Council President Smith? 799 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:40,389 >> Yes. 800 00:33:40,389 --> 00:33:40,399 » Yes. 801 00:33:40,399 --> 00:33:42,070 >> Miss Laz? 802 00:33:42,070 --> 00:33:42,080 » Miss Laz? 803 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:42,950 >> Yes. 804 00:33:42,950 --> 00:33:42,960 » Yes. 805 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:44,870 >> Mr. Delurn? 806 00:33:44,870 --> 00:33:44,880 » Mr. Delurn? 807 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:46,070 >> Yes. 808 00:33:46,070 --> 00:33:46,080 » Yes. 809 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:47,830 >> Miss Muhammad? 810 00:33:47,830 --> 00:33:47,840 » Miss Muhammad? 811 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:48,950 >> Yes. 812 00:33:48,950 --> 00:33:48,960 » Yes. 813 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:50,950 >> Miss Mcini? 814 00:33:50,950 --> 00:33:50,960 » Miss Mcini? 815 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:52,389 >> Yes. 816 00:33:52,389 --> 00:33:52,399 » Yes. 817 00:33:52,399 --> 00:33:55,190 >> Motion carries. Thank you, Adora. 818 00:33:55,190 --> 00:33:55,200 » Motion carries. Thank you, Adora. 819 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:58,710 >> Madame Chair, I apologize. Um, there is 820 00:33:58,710 --> 00:33:58,720 » Madame Chair, I apologize. Um, there is 821 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:00,799 a Zoom hiccup and this meeting is about 822 00:34:00,799 --> 00:34:03,440 to end. Uh, I have just pasted an 823 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,399 alternate Zoom in the chat and I think 824 00:34:06,399 --> 00:34:08,159 possibly that Adora has just sent it 825 00:34:08,159 --> 00:34:12,079 out. I apologize for this it blip. Um, 826 00:34:12,079 --> 00:34:15,520 it's very embarrassing obviously. Um, 827 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,159 but this Zoom is going to inevitably end 828 00:34:18,159 --> 00:34:21,760 in less than a minute. Uh, so there is a 829 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,720 link um to a new Zoom that is in the 830 00:34:24,720 --> 00:34:27,919 chat. Um, and it's possible that you 831 00:34:27,919 --> 00:34:29,280 might be about to get an email as well, 832 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:33,119 but if everybody could copy that um, and 833 00:34:33,119 --> 00:34:36,399 open a new Zoom, uh, again, I apologize 834 00:34:36,399 --> 00:34:54,550 deeply. 835 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:59,289 Hey, 836 00:34:59,299 --> 00:35:05,990 [music] 837 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:11,079 down. 838 00:35:11,089 --> 00:35:22,214 [music] 839 00:35:22,224 --> 00:35:25,349 » [music] 840 00:35:25,359 --> 00:35:34,659 » Number 841 00:35:34,669 --> 00:35:49,069 [music] 842 00:35:49,079 --> 00:36:04,134 » [music] 843 00:36:04,144 --> 00:36:24,230 [music] 844 00:36:24,240 --> 00:36:25,760 » Down. 845 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:58,500 [music] 846 00:36:58,510 --> 00:37:09,635 » [music] 847 00:37:09,645 --> 00:37:47,510 [music] 848 00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:52,866 » town. Hello. 849 00:37:52,876 --> 00:37:57,451 » [music] 850 00:37:57,461 --> 00:37:59,990 [music] 851 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:05,966 » Hey, 852 00:38:05,976 --> 00:38:11,109 [music] 853 00:38:11,119 --> 00:38:15,030 hey, hey. 854 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:17,111 Heat. Heat. 855 00:38:17,111 --> 00:38:37,406 [music] 856 00:38:37,416 --> 00:39:14,087 » [music] 857 00:39:14,097 --> 00:39:19,190 [music] 858 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:22,950 » How [music] 859 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:36,710 daddy? 860 00:39:36,720 --> 00:39:37,839 How about [music] 861 00:39:37,839 --> 00:39:51,422 you? 862 00:39:51,432 --> 00:40:01,750 » [music] 863 00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:14,390 » Hey, I'm 864 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:37,273 Heat. Heat. 865 00:40:37,283 --> 00:41:19,848 » [music] 866 00:41:19,858 --> 00:41:34,470 [music] 867 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:36,233 » How 868 00:41:36,233 --> 00:42:00,069 [music] 869 00:42:00,079 --> 00:42:05,699 do 870 00:42:05,709 --> 00:42:17,489 » [music] 871 00:42:17,499 --> 00:42:37,750 [music] 872 00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:54,824 » How? 873 00:42:54,834 --> 00:43:02,069 » [music] 874 00:43:02,079 --> 00:43:06,640 » Welcome to part two of our July HDC 875 00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:11,599 meeting. Uh, Council President Smith is 876 00:43:11,599 --> 00:43:14,400 not in attendance in part two. If he 877 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:18,480 joins us, he will let us know. 878 00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:22,079 Agenda item number seven, HDC 879 00:43:22,079 --> 00:43:24,720 C 2027 880 00:43:24,720 --> 00:43:26,800 00003 881 00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:30,240 for 113 St. Mary's Place submitted by 882 00:43:30,240 --> 00:43:36,160 Jeff Palumbo for Pilott High School. Um 883 00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:40,319 the school received approval in 2021 884 00:43:40,319 --> 00:43:41,920 and 885 00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:45,839 work stopped. Um so they are back. Would 886 00:43:45,839 --> 00:43:48,319 staff uh Miss Williams, would you like 887 00:43:48,319 --> 00:43:50,480 to present your report? 888 00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:53,349 >> Actually, Madam Chair, you get me. 889 00:43:53,349 --> 00:43:53,359 » Actually, Madam Chair, you get me. 890 00:43:53,359 --> 00:43:55,990 >> I soon as that came out of my mouth, I 891 00:43:55,990 --> 00:43:56,000 » I soon as that came out of my mouth, I 892 00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:57,680 knew I had the wrong name. 893 00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,470 >> All good. This is Jay Mishi, director of 894 00:44:00,470 --> 00:44:00,480 » All good. This is Jay Mishi, director of 895 00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:02,000 the Department of Economic and Community 896 00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,319 Development. Good evening, Madam Chair 897 00:44:04,319 --> 00:44:06,560 and Commission members. The applicant is 898 00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:08,319 again seeking historic district 899 00:44:08,319 --> 00:44:11,200 commission approval to conduct construct 900 00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,920 a 16,830q 901 00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,560 ft addition to St. Vincent Pilott High 902 00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:20,560 School located at 113 St. Mary's Place. 903 00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:22,319 The applicant proposes to build a 904 00:44:22,319 --> 00:44:24,480 performing arts theater onto the 905 00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:26,960 existing school fronting on the 9inth 906 00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,040 Street and Montgomery Street sides of 907 00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:30,960 the property. The building will have the 908 00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:32,800 following features. The exterior of the 909 00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,520 building will have split face masonry to 910 00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:38,319 closely match existing red brick 2 feet 911 00:44:38,319 --> 00:44:41,680 and 8 in above grade. The siding above 912 00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:44,560 the split face masonry will be Siri 913 00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:47,440 beige, royal blue, and terracotta as 914 00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:49,040 manufactured by American Buildings 915 00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,839 Company. The building will have white 916 00:44:51,839 --> 00:44:54,480 fixed insulated windows on the night and 917 00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:56,880 street elevation and exterior steel 918 00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,680 doors painted Siri beige, although you 919 00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:01,119 may note that they are rendered in 920 00:45:01,119 --> 00:45:03,680 terracotta in the architectural drawing. 921 00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:05,359 Uh the exterior lighting of the building 922 00:45:05,359 --> 00:45:07,440 will be black LED lights to project 923 00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:09,280 light no more than 50 ft from the 924 00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:11,520 building structure. No change is 925 00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:13,200 otherwise contemplated to the visible 926 00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,359 exterior of the property. All of the 927 00:45:15,359 --> 00:45:17,599 exterior work or rather all of the site 928 00:45:17,599 --> 00:45:20,000 work, landscaping and fencing was done 929 00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,800 in phase one of the project. 930 00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:24,319 The board of appeals approved the 931 00:45:24,319 --> 00:45:26,160 necessary variance for this project on 932 00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,880 May 28th, 2026. 933 00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:33,200 Uh as you noted, Madame Chair, um this 934 00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:34,800 was approved by the historic district 935 00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:37,920 commission on May 18th, 2021. Uh but the 936 00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:39,599 project needed to be phased due to 937 00:45:39,599 --> 00:45:41,520 financial concerns and the applicant was 938 00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:42,880 unable to begin this part of the 939 00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:44,960 construction before the previous 940 00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,520 approval expired 12 months after it was 941 00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:49,680 issued. The applicant's proposed 942 00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:50,960 addition appears to meet the 943 00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:52,720 requirements established in the city of 944 00:45:52,720 --> 00:45:54,720 Laurel's Unified Land Development Code 945 00:45:54,720 --> 00:45:56,480 and staff recommends the historic 946 00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:58,319 district commission approve certificate 947 00:45:58,319 --> 00:46:00,400 number HDC 948 00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:05,430 C2027003. 949 00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:10,240 Thank you. Mr. Palumbo, do you have 950 00:46:10,240 --> 00:46:12,079 anything you would like to add? 951 00:46:12,079 --> 00:46:14,950 >> Um, no. Just that uh you know, this was 952 00:46:14,950 --> 00:46:14,960 » Um, no. Just that uh you know, this was 953 00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:19,200 all um designed uh with the historic 954 00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:22,960 district commission um u you know, five 955 00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:25,520 years ago. It's totally different from 956 00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:27,119 the way it was originally designed. We 957 00:46:27,119 --> 00:46:28,640 worked very closely with the commission 958 00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:33,680 at that time. Um and we did a lot of 959 00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:37,119 things as as part of that. uh you know, 960 00:46:37,119 --> 00:46:39,839 approval. Um because we also, if you 961 00:46:39,839 --> 00:46:41,520 remember correctly, had some houses that 962 00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:45,119 had to be taken down. Um we've even gone 963 00:46:45,119 --> 00:46:47,599 as far as to save the brick from the 964 00:46:47,599 --> 00:46:50,240 historic house to be incorporated into 965 00:46:50,240 --> 00:46:54,000 this building as in the lobby of our um 966 00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:57,119 uh of of the new performing arts center. 967 00:46:57,119 --> 00:46:59,680 Um so it's all the same materials, same 968 00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:01,680 colors, everything that we originally 969 00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:04,319 started with. Um, if you've seen the 970 00:47:04,319 --> 00:47:07,680 pictures, the the the fascia on this 971 00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:10,640 project, um, it's not just follows the 972 00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:13,119 roof line. It's designed to kind of 973 00:47:13,119 --> 00:47:16,400 incorporate the rowouses to to look like 974 00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:21,040 the rowouses across the street as well. 975 00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:25,670 >> Okay. So, could you um 976 00:47:25,670 --> 00:47:25,680 » Okay. So, could you um 977 00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:30,640 put your screen on page 35? 978 00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,200 Whoever screen we're looking at on the 979 00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:36,240 application, could you put page 35 up 980 00:47:36,240 --> 00:47:48,710 there, please? Scroll down to 35. 981 00:47:48,720 --> 00:47:50,400 And I think we can probably rotate that 982 00:47:50,400 --> 00:48:01,510 for you as well. 983 00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:07,750 Is it? 984 00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,640 » So that picture in the upper right, Mr. 985 00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:12,000 Columbia. That's what we'll be seeing 986 00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:13,359 from Ninth Street. 987 00:48:13,359 --> 00:48:14,950 >> Yes. Yes, ma'am. 988 00:48:14,950 --> 00:48:14,960 » Yes. Yes, ma'am. 989 00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:17,349 >> Okay. Um and at some point I heard 990 00:48:17,349 --> 00:48:17,359 » Okay. Um and at some point I heard 991 00:48:17,359 --> 00:48:19,440 someone mention the fencing and 992 00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:22,319 landscaping was complete. I have not 993 00:48:22,319 --> 00:48:24,319 seen any trees planted. 994 00:48:24,319 --> 00:48:25,990 >> No, the landscaping has not been 995 00:48:25,990 --> 00:48:26,000 » No, the landscaping has not been 996 00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:30,160 completed. We um planted trees on the uh 997 00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:35,599 and bushes on the um on the side where 998 00:48:35,599 --> 00:48:38,960 the uh Keesler Center is and some in the 999 00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,280 front. Uh, but we didn't do anything in 1000 00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:43,280 the back yet because we knew that we 1001 00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:45,599 would still be having construction, but 1002 00:48:45,599 --> 00:48:47,920 the landscaping plan is through the 1003 00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,319 county and that's all to be done 1004 00:48:50,319 --> 00:48:55,190 completed at the end of this project. 1005 00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,280 » There's there's over 200 plants that 1006 00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:59,200 will be going in. 1007 00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:02,470 >> Okay. I mean, I I was kind of, you know, 1008 00:49:02,470 --> 00:49:02,480 » Okay. I mean, I I was kind of, you know, 1009 00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:05,040 I've been waiting for the trees as I 1010 00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:07,280 drive on Ninth Street because I think 1011 00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:11,680 your neighbors would really appreciate 1012 00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:14,559 trees and the best time to plant a tree 1013 00:49:14,559 --> 00:49:17,599 is yesterday. 1014 00:49:17,599 --> 00:49:19,680 Are there any other comments or 1015 00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:22,880 questions from any commissioners? 1016 00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:24,950 >> Where exactly is the theater edition 1017 00:49:24,950 --> 00:49:24,960 » Where exactly is the theater edition 1018 00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:27,200 going? 1019 00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:30,079 So, if you have been on the back side of 1020 00:49:30,079 --> 00:49:34,559 Ninth Street and you've seen the uh the 1021 00:49:34,559 --> 00:49:36,640 these colors 1022 00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:38,559 uh back there, are you familiar with 1023 00:49:38,559 --> 00:49:39,119 that? 1024 00:49:39,119 --> 00:49:39,829 >> Mhm. [clears throat] 1025 00:49:39,829 --> 00:49:39,839 » Mhm. [clears throat] 1026 00:49:39,839 --> 00:49:42,150 >> So, that was supposed this was all 1027 00:49:42,150 --> 00:49:42,160 » So, that was supposed this was all 1028 00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:44,640 supposed to be built at the same time 1029 00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:47,599 and when COVID hit the price of 1030 00:49:47,599 --> 00:49:49,200 everything went up so high that we 1031 00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:51,520 didn't have the funds. So, uh, this 1032 00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:54,079 group actually approved us to do what we 1033 00:49:54,079 --> 00:49:56,880 did at that point knowing that this was 1034 00:49:56,880 --> 00:50:00,240 coming later. Um, and so it's just added 1035 00:50:00,240 --> 00:50:02,720 on. If you, if you look back there where 1036 00:50:02,720 --> 00:50:05,680 that is, you see the sidewalks and this 1037 00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:07,680 goes right inside the sidewalks. All the 1038 00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:09,520 sidewalks and all the underground stuff 1039 00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:11,680 was done knowing that this was coming in 1040 00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:14,640 the future. So, it fits right in there 1041 00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:17,200 where the uh sidewalks outline the gray 1042 00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:20,319 and the the green field in the back 1043 00:50:20,319 --> 00:50:25,280 there. So, it's it's added on to 1044 00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:32,549 what we built in 2020 24. 1045 00:50:32,559 --> 00:50:34,160 » Still don't know where it's going. 1046 00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:35,990 >> Okay. So, if if you're if you're looking 1047 00:50:35,990 --> 00:50:36,000 » Okay. So, if if you're if you're looking 1048 00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,480 at this picture here, 1049 00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:40,880 you're looking at a view from 9inth 1050 00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:42,800 Street. Yes. 1051 00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:45,750 >> Back towards almost like where the um 1052 00:50:45,750 --> 00:50:45,760 » Back towards almost like where the um 1053 00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:47,920 the Union Hall is. 1054 00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:48,470 >> Uhhuh. 1055 00:50:48,470 --> 00:50:48,480 » Uhhuh. 1056 00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:50,390 >> And you're looking back at Pilates 1057 00:50:50,390 --> 00:50:50,400 » And you're looking back at Pilates 1058 00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:54,960 property from the Union Hall back 1059 00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:57,839 towards Pilott. 1060 00:50:57,839 --> 00:51:00,720 So it this is right up, you know, this 1061 00:51:00,720 --> 00:51:03,359 this side comes out to almost to Ninth 1062 00:51:03,359 --> 00:51:04,559 Street. 1063 00:51:04,559 --> 00:51:07,599 So, this is going right in front of the 1064 00:51:07,599 --> 00:51:09,200 gymnasium 1065 00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:12,400 where there's currently a a grassy area 1066 00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:14,880 that looks like it could be an athletic 1067 00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:16,559 field but is not. 1068 00:51:16,559 --> 00:51:17,430 >> Correct. 1069 00:51:17,430 --> 00:51:17,440 » Correct. 1070 00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:22,870 >> Oh, okay. 1071 00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:25,839 » There is not a very clear illustration 1072 00:51:25,839 --> 00:51:27,440 anywhere on this. 1073 00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:29,270 >> A site plan of some kind. Yeah, 1074 00:51:29,270 --> 00:51:29,280 » A site plan of some kind. Yeah, 1075 00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:31,030 >> there's a there's a site plan earlier 1076 00:51:31,030 --> 00:51:31,040 » there's a there's a site plan earlier 1077 00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:33,920 on. There is, but it is very hard to 1078 00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:34,800 read. 1079 00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:37,829 >> So, I think if I may, um, if you look at 1080 00:51:37,829 --> 00:51:37,839 » So, I think if I may, um, if you look at 1081 00:51:37,839 --> 00:51:40,240 this picture that's that's in the top 1082 00:51:40,240 --> 00:51:43,920 right corner, um, and you know, if you 1083 00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:46,079 start at where that tree is, which is 1084 00:51:46,079 --> 00:51:48,480 the corner of the proposed theater, and 1085 00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:50,559 you move over to the right, you can see 1086 00:51:50,559 --> 00:51:53,440 a building with sort of a sloping up 1087 00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:54,559 roof line. 1088 00:51:54,559 --> 00:51:54,950 >> Mhm. 1089 00:51:54,950 --> 00:51:54,960 » Mhm. 1090 00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:56,710 >> You see that? So, that sloping up roof 1091 00:51:56,710 --> 00:51:56,720 » You see that? So, that sloping up roof 1092 00:51:56,720 --> 00:52:00,079 line is the current athletic building. 1093 00:52:00,079 --> 00:52:02,079 And between that sloping roof line 1094 00:52:02,079 --> 00:52:03,760 building and the parking lot, there's 1095 00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:07,200 currently a large square of grass. 1096 00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:08,960 Does that help at all? 1097 00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:11,030 >> Yeah, I think so. 1098 00:52:11,030 --> 00:52:11,040 » Yeah, I think so. 1099 00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:13,109 >> Okay. 1100 00:52:13,109 --> 00:52:13,119 » Okay. 1101 00:52:13,119 --> 00:52:15,430 >> So, the the theater will be facing 1102 00:52:15,430 --> 00:52:15,440 » So, the the theater will be facing 1103 00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:18,870 Montgomery. 1104 00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:22,160 » Uh yeah. Well, it it's in the corner of 1105 00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:24,480 this building 1106 00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:27,359 um facing 9inth and Montgomery. It's 1107 00:52:27,359 --> 00:52:29,119 it's right in that corner where the tree 1108 00:52:29,119 --> 00:52:30,240 is. Okay. 1109 00:52:30,240 --> 00:52:33,190 >> The the the rest of the building is is 1110 00:52:33,190 --> 00:52:33,200 » The the the rest of the building is is 1111 00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:36,000 um so the seating I mean the theater is 1112 00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:38,559 about 210 seats. So it's it's it takes 1113 00:52:38,559 --> 00:52:41,280 up about maybe 30% of this building and 1114 00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:44,319 the rest of it is a dance studio and 1115 00:52:44,319 --> 00:52:46,960 studios for all the performing arts. 1116 00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:52,150 >> Wonderful. 1117 00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:54,800 » Okay. On page 28 I have one more 1118 00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:56,400 question. Mhm. 1119 00:52:56,400 --> 00:53:01,990 >> Um, where did those lights go? 1120 00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:03,359 » Where are we? 1121 00:53:03,359 --> 00:53:10,230 >> Page 28. 1122 00:53:10,240 --> 00:53:13,520 » 27 28. 1123 00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:16,069 >> Those are those those are not approved 1124 00:53:16,069 --> 00:53:16,079 » Those are those those are not approved 1125 00:53:16,079 --> 00:53:21,030 lights. That's not what we have. 1126 00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:23,280 » Where there's some gooseeneck. 1127 00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:24,470 >> They're they're goose neck. I'm sorry. 1128 00:53:24,470 --> 00:53:24,480 » They're they're goose neck. I'm sorry. 1129 00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:25,440 This is Leonard Davis. They're 1130 00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:27,200 gooseeneck lights. That's not That was 1131 00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:31,190 those wall. 1132 00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:32,720 » Yeah. 1133 00:53:32,720 --> 00:53:35,440 The the lights that we have up there now 1134 00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:37,760 are the ones that were approved by by 1135 00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:40,400 the commission. These were not not 1136 00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:41,359 approved. 1137 00:53:41,359 --> 00:53:42,150 >> Okay. 1138 00:53:42,150 --> 00:53:42,160 » Okay. 1139 00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:43,589 >> I don't know why they're still in there, 1140 00:53:43,589 --> 00:53:43,599 » I don't know why they're still in there, 1141 00:53:43,599 --> 00:53:48,230 but yeah. 1142 00:53:48,240 --> 00:53:49,839 » Okay. 1143 00:53:49,839 --> 00:53:52,309 >> Thank you. Any other comments or 1144 00:53:52,309 --> 00:53:52,319 » Thank you. Any other comments or 1145 00:53:52,319 --> 00:53:54,400 questions? 1146 00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:56,640 So, which lights are they going to be 1147 00:53:56,640 --> 00:54:00,950 using? 1148 00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:03,200 » Um, 1149 00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:05,200 they're they're an LE LED goose neck 1150 00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:06,880 light. Um, per the rendering, it's kind 1151 00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:08,000 of I think it's shown in the rendering 1152 00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:10,400 pretty well. They've got like a um 1153 00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:12,309 >> a metal stem that comes over and down. 1154 00:54:12,309 --> 00:54:12,319 » a metal stem that comes over and down. 1155 00:54:12,319 --> 00:54:15,119 It's kind of like a a classic a classic 1156 00:54:15,119 --> 00:54:18,640 look. So, it's not industrial like that. 1157 00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:21,190 >> There is an illustr There is a photo of 1158 00:54:21,190 --> 00:54:21,200 » There is an illustr There is a photo of 1159 00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:26,400 them. I'm looking to see what page 1160 00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:36,790 page six 1161 00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:38,640 there. That's it right there. 1162 00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:40,390 >> All right. Yeah, that's much better. 1163 00:54:40,390 --> 00:54:40,400 » All right. Yeah, that's much better. 1164 00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:42,160 Yeah. 1165 00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:47,910 >> Yeah. 1166 00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:51,829 » Any other questions? 1167 00:54:51,839 --> 00:54:55,119 Madam chair, this is Mary Lane. 1168 00:54:55,119 --> 00:54:55,750 >> Yes. 1169 00:54:55,750 --> 00:54:55,760 » Yes. 1170 00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:58,549 >> I move to approve HDC 1171 00:54:58,549 --> 00:54:58,559 » I move to approve HDC 1172 00:54:58,559 --> 00:55:00,160 C 1173 00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:03,040 2027 1174 00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:08,720 0003 for 113 St. Mary's Place Pilates 1175 00:55:08,720 --> 00:55:11,599 High School. 1176 00:55:11,599 --> 00:55:13,750 >> Could I hear a second? 1177 00:55:13,750 --> 00:55:13,760 » Could I hear a second? 1178 00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:16,470 >> I second that motion. 1179 00:55:16,470 --> 00:55:16,480 » I second that motion. 1180 00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:18,710 >> Great. Aduro, we have a motion to 1181 00:55:18,710 --> 00:55:18,720 » Great. Aduro, we have a motion to 1182 00:55:18,720 --> 00:55:22,400 approve from Miss Les and a second from 1183 00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:24,800 uh Mr. De Laquente. Would you call the 1184 00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:26,319 role, please? 1185 00:55:26,319 --> 00:55:27,430 >> Miss Les, 1186 00:55:27,430 --> 00:55:27,440 » Miss Les, 1187 00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:28,470 >> yes. 1188 00:55:28,470 --> 00:55:28,480 » yes. 1189 00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:30,309 >> Mr. Delente, 1190 00:55:30,309 --> 00:55:30,319 » Mr. Delente, 1191 00:55:30,319 --> 00:55:31,270 >> yes. 1192 00:55:31,270 --> 00:55:31,280 » yes. 1193 00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:32,630 >> Miss Frasier, 1194 00:55:32,630 --> 00:55:32,640 » Miss Frasier, 1195 00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:33,910 >> yes. 1196 00:55:33,910 --> 00:55:33,920 » yes. 1197 00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:35,349 >> Miss Muhammad, 1198 00:55:35,349 --> 00:55:35,359 » Miss Muhammad, 1199 00:55:35,359 --> 00:55:36,309 >> yes. 1200 00:55:36,309 --> 00:55:36,319 » yes. 1201 00:55:36,319 --> 00:55:38,150 >> Miss Mcini, 1202 00:55:38,150 --> 00:55:38,160 » Miss Mcini, 1203 00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:39,589 >> yes. 1204 00:55:39,589 --> 00:55:39,599 » yes. 1205 00:55:39,599 --> 00:55:41,430 >> Motion carries. 1206 00:55:41,430 --> 00:55:41,440 » Motion carries. 1207 00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:43,270 >> You Thank you for coming back, Mr. 1208 00:55:43,270 --> 00:55:43,280 » You Thank you for coming back, Mr. 1209 00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:44,319 Palumbo. 1210 00:55:44,319 --> 00:55:47,190 >> Thank you all very Thank you very much. 1211 00:55:47,190 --> 00:55:47,200 » Thank you all very Thank you very much. 1212 00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:49,200 We're excited. Excited to get it going 1213 00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:50,960 here. Thank you very much. 1214 00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:53,430 >> Been a while. Sure. 1215 00:55:53,430 --> 00:55:53,440 » Been a while. Sure. 1216 00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:55,829 >> Thanks. All right. Goodbye. Thanks. 1217 00:55:55,829 --> 00:55:55,839 » Thanks. All right. Goodbye. Thanks. 1218 00:55:55,839 --> 00:55:57,990 >> You're very welcome. Have a good night. 1219 00:55:57,990 --> 00:55:58,000 » You're very welcome. Have a good night. 1220 00:55:58,000 --> 00:55:59,030 >> You, too. 1221 00:55:59,030 --> 00:55:59,040 » You, too. 1222 00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:03,589 >> Um, we had some tax credits approved. We 1223 00:56:03,589 --> 00:56:03,599 » Um, we had some tax credits approved. We 1224 00:56:03,599 --> 00:56:06,079 had staff approvals. 1225 00:56:06,079 --> 00:56:15,670 Uh, any questions? 1226 00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:18,079 If not, 1227 00:56:18,079 --> 00:56:33,670 I would entertain a motion to adjourn 1228 00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:36,319 from anyone. 1229 00:56:36,319 --> 00:56:38,549 >> I move that we adjourn. 1230 00:56:38,549 --> 00:56:38,559 » I move that we adjourn. 1231 00:56:38,559 --> 00:56:42,710 >> Thank you. Uh, Miss Frasier, uh, we will 1232 00:56:42,710 --> 00:56:42,720 » Thank you. Uh, Miss Frasier, uh, we will 1233 00:56:42,720 --> 00:56:46,240 not have a meeting in we don't have a 1234 00:56:46,240 --> 00:56:50,960 meeting in August. So, I wish you a good 1235 00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:55,440 rest of the summer and hope 1236 00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:57,829 hope it's cooler than it has been. 1237 00:56:57,829 --> 00:57:03,059 [laughter] 1238 00:57:03,069 --> 00:57:10,264 [music] 1239 00:57:10,274 --> 00:57:16,159 » [music] 1240 00:57:16,169 --> 00:57:31,289 [music]