1 00:00:02,159 --> 00:00:10,800 I aliance to the flag of the United States of 2 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:16,640 America and to the for it stands one nation under God indivisible with 3 00:00:13,679 --> 00:00:18,080 liberty and justice for all is here. Commissioner D. Jar. 4 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:20,240 » Yes. >> Commissioner Kernick 5 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:21,520 » here. >> Commissioner Wilson 6 00:00:21,199 --> 00:00:23,119 » here. >> Mayor Barry 7 00:00:22,240 --> 00:00:28,080 » here. >> All right. Public comment 4 minute 8 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:33,840 limit. No action taken. Anybody hearing? None. Uh item C, approval of 9 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:40,879 the agenda. Um I would ask uh before we approve it that we amend it to add an 10 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:44,559 item for a special meeting um to go over the commission application. Commissioner 11 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:49,120 applications. >> I Where do you want to put it? 12 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:55,760 » I'm going to put it at 13. >> Okay. I move we uh approve the amended 13 00:00:52,399 --> 00:00:59,840 agenda item >> item 13. Um, it's been moved by 14 00:00:58,399 --> 00:01:04,159 Commissioner Distra and supported by Commissioner Wilkinson to add event the 15 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:07,280 agenda by adding item 13 to set a special meeting date for commissioner 16 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:12,159 applications. Any [clears throat] more discussion? All 17 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:17,920 in favor? I posted motion carries. Um, and the agenda is approved. 18 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:20,960 » Item D, consent agenda. Any questions or concerns? 19 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:24,240 » No. I make a motion approve the consent agenda. support 20 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:28,640 » by Commissioner Kernick, supported by Commissioner Dard to approve the consent 21 00:01:26,159 --> 00:01:34,240 agenda. Any further discussion? All those in favor? I post motion car. All 22 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:38,479 right. New city business city manager report. Any questions? And no, just a 23 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:42,799 comment. We are uh 24 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:47,680 looking at a nonmotorized transportation plan and we're looking at our master 25 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:53,200 plan and we are looking at a forestry plan for development of the municing 26 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:57,040 overlook property and then a a recreational use plan and we are looking 27 00:01:55,600 --> 00:02:00,079 at a recreation plan. >> What plan plan? 28 00:01:58,079 --> 00:02:05,920 » Yeah. They they all just all have to blend together. So I I and it's going to 29 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:11,039 be especially hard to uh graft the scenic overlook plan into 30 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:16,000 the others. >> Yeah. I don't know if the forestry 31 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:18,480 management plan uh is really intended to blend. 32 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:20,560 » No, the forest management plan, but we we will have to have a recreational 33 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:22,879 » Oh, right. >> a recreation development plan for that 34 00:02:22,319 --> 00:02:24,959 parcel. >> Yeah. 35 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:29,920 um which should blend with our recreation plan and we should blend with 36 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:36,000 our master plan and not conflict with the forestry plan. 37 00:02:33,519 --> 00:02:39,200 » Anyway, no I have no other questions or comments on this one. 38 00:02:38,319 --> 00:02:44,480 » Anybody else? >> I have one question. Uh under safe house 39 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:47,920 the school you have under your the school will continue to be a partner or 40 00:02:46,319 --> 00:02:51,280 project. What kind of partner are they going to be? 41 00:02:49,519 --> 00:02:54,720 » Well, I think you mentioned kind of where are they? they they're here. 42 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:58,879 They're supporting us. It's they did a lot of the work leading up to the grant 43 00:02:56,480 --> 00:03:03,440 and it's kind of our turn to take the lead. But I reached out to the or I will 44 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:08,239 reach out to the superintendent and you know we want her to come to the meeting 45 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:11,519 and just remind us why the project is important for 46 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:16,959 » so they're going to be they're going to be partner and name only. I I think when 47 00:03:14,239 --> 00:03:22,397 Mike Travis was here, Bob, he said that they were going to be more Yeah. in kind 48 00:03:21,087 --> 00:03:26,319 [clears throat] [snorts] 49 00:03:23,920 --> 00:03:31,120 » We approve the city by commissioner, supported by 50 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:37,120 commissioner to the city manager report. All those in favor? I 51 00:03:34,319 --> 00:03:42,000 full project, please. 52 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:42,000 All 53 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:52,799 right. Uh campground bathroom. Uh I guess you have 54 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:56,720 » Yeah, I got to sign the invoices. I got those out last week. 55 00:03:54,159 --> 00:04:04,879 » So project is very close to being closed out of that. Uh high sodium just waiting 56 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:09,239 on the final review for the RFQ. Uh Washington Street 57 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:18,560 The city's working with her attorney right now to finalize the acquisition of 58 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:22,720 the property for the newest station. Um, Coen does have all permits submitted. We 59 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:27,759 haven't got any comments back on either yet. 60 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:32,720 » Which property are we playing? >> Uh, in front of the comfort in um we're 61 00:04:31,199 --> 00:04:36,720 basically going to slide both station closer to the road. Get out of the 62 00:04:33,919 --> 00:04:40,479 middle of the parking lot. Um, so staying there, just moving on. 63 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:45,440 » Yeah. >> Um, that does need to be finalized 64 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:49,600 though. We can't actually proceed with until that property acquisition. 65 00:04:47,919 --> 00:04:53,199 Um, I kind of highlighted on here. I don't 66 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:59,280 have color copies or not, but I put in that I had revised um the schedule. The 67 00:04:56,160 --> 00:05:03,199 goal was to bid late summer. That was coming and gone. So, I'm 68 00:05:01,759 --> 00:05:07,199 optimistically at this point I'm going to say we're going to bid this fall, but 69 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:10,639 I don't really see us getting any color work done yet this year. Okay. 70 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:12,639 » So, so we're going to bid with an anticipation of work starting May this 71 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:16,639 spring. >> Yep. And I I would like to think a 72 00:05:15,199 --> 00:05:20,000 contractor would want to start on that box first in the spring as soon as the 73 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:23,600 milk off's done and they can get in there. So, before tourism food season 74 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:28,960 kind of picks up. >> Yeah. And we will get better bids. We 75 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:33,120 will um any contractor that can lock in their pricing for all work next year yet 76 00:05:31,039 --> 00:05:38,000 this year. That's the time you want. >> That's pretty magical. 77 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:42,560 » Yep. Um we're working with the city on some of 78 00:05:39,919 --> 00:05:49,120 the it's called the checklist items with RD. So we got some rightway and uh title 79 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:53,039 work stuff going on right now. It's kind of where we're at. So sit and 80 00:05:51,280 --> 00:05:58,880 tight until I get comments back from Eagle on the plans and specs and we'll 81 00:05:56,400 --> 00:06:03,759 make those revisions and in process get some of these documents together for 82 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:06,800 USDA. We're getting close. Um 83 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:11,120 I I guess I don't have much of an update on nonwater asset management plan unless 84 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:15,039 you have anything. >> I finally 85 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:20,720 have comments and hope I'll get those to Kevin. Okay. 86 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:29,280 um SRF flood service and that's the most active project on this list. Um we just 87 00:06:23,840 --> 00:06:33,199 held our precon meeting on the 26th. Contractor would like to start or is 88 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:38,319 planning to start doing potholeing on some services on the 21st. And that's 89 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:41,520 just uh you know we we pled previously with the 90 00:06:39,919 --> 00:06:46,000 TMF but we didn't catch all the properties and now we're trying to pin 91 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:49,360 down how much we know they're giz but how much of them before they go in there 92 00:06:47,280 --> 00:06:54,240 and start ripping stuff apart. Um they're going to do that for just a 93 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:58,080 couple weeks real quick. The first service that's supposed to be replaced 94 00:06:55,759 --> 00:07:03,759 would be October 1st and they're going to try to only do services where we know 95 00:07:01,919 --> 00:07:06,400 it's just from the the shut off to the home. They're not trying to get into 96 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:09,280 streets and sidewalks yet this year. They just want to tear up some yards and 97 00:07:07,840 --> 00:07:13,840 and put those back together. >> You're still waiting for [clears throat] 98 00:07:11,039 --> 00:07:15,599 um feedback from like 23% of the residents. 99 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:19,599 » Yeah. >> How many do you I don't know if you can 100 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:26,060 answer that or not. How many residents is 23% roughly not 101 00:07:22,319 --> 00:07:29,840 » 25? Okay. So, [clears throat] we ballpark. So, we got 102 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:35,039 about 200 homes we're trying to deal with on this thing for good measure. 103 00:07:33,039 --> 00:07:37,680 So, at least there's nominal amount left. 104 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:40,560 » Yeah. And the good news is we really need them by the time the contractor's 105 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:44,240 ready to do them. And we have the majority of them now, but it's going to 106 00:07:42,319 --> 00:07:50,880 be a while before the contractor catch us. So, we still have more time. 107 00:07:47,199 --> 00:07:57,440 » I wonder how many of them are snowbirds. >> We we started we started those mailings 108 00:07:54,000 --> 00:08:00,560 from the the snowbird addresses back in March or something like that. And then 109 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:04,400 we did it again to hit the summer addresses. 110 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:09,280 I mean, we're still trickling in. I think I get one or two 111 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:14,319 doors when they were home. >> That's what I was just saying. 112 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:17,919 » Well, you're making progress though. >> The city at this point is pretty much 113 00:08:16,319 --> 00:08:21,280 the ones getting them. I mean, we're Coleman's not really getting responses 114 00:08:19,599 --> 00:08:23,440 to anything. So, it says, you know, Brendon and other staff can get in 115 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:27,080 there. >> Take the fire truck. 116 00:08:27,759 --> 00:08:34,199 We knocked on I don't know seven eight doors today and three of them had lights 117 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:34,199 on the house. 118 00:08:35,680 --> 00:08:45,120 » So, um I would say just it's it's a good one. The public needs to be aware of it. 119 00:08:41,599 --> 00:08:49,440 Um especially businesses downtown uh starting in the spring next year that 120 00:08:47,680 --> 00:08:52,399 they do need to start ripping up some of those sidewalks and downtown area and 121 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:56,880 start placing those services. So, there's going to be some disruption. Um 122 00:08:55,040 --> 00:09:00,480 the goal is and that's the conversation of other contractors start as early as 123 00:08:58,560 --> 00:09:08,279 they can. They're probably going to be tied to weight restrictions. Um but you 124 00:09:03,839 --> 00:09:08,279 know get in and out as fast as they can. 125 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:16,880 Um access site I mean I I guess I want to talk a little bit more about it. Put 126 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:23,440 a little additional information in there. The grant does expire next fall. 127 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:30,399 Our current water or uh construction permit um for the ramp is uh August 15th 128 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:34,800 of next year that one expires. So coming up shortly, we're we're really 129 00:09:33,279 --> 00:09:40,080 going to have to commit to what we're going to design out and bid out. And I'd 130 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:42,560 like to bid that out well before um you know, we get the springtime next 131 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:46,959 year. >> Have Have we been downsite? I mean, have 132 00:09:44,560 --> 00:09:50,320 we done any planning with downsizing the project or 133 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:54,720 » I've done I I submitted some cost estimates previously basically what the 134 00:09:52,959 --> 00:09:58,399 full expansion would look like and then I honestly say I doubt it back to just 135 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:59,920 two docks and replacing basically what you already have there. 136 00:09:59,519 --> 00:10:02,399 » Yeah. >> Um and that fit in the budget. 137 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:06,320 » Okay. >> But it was more what are your needs? 138 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:09,120 What do you really need down there? So that was still kind of up for 139 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:14,880 discretion. >> Um it's interesting that the original 140 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:18,240 plan was to add two new ramps. um which we obviously don't have the money for 141 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:19,920 now. Seems how we've got to repair the existing two ramps. 142 00:10:19,519 --> 00:10:23,680 » Yeah. >> But it seems to me after almost a full 143 00:10:21,680 --> 00:10:29,600 boating season and admittedly it has not been a very good summer for boating. Um 144 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:34,959 two ramps seem to be able to handle the flow. Um and in fact it flows very 145 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:39,760 smoothly even when there's people in line rather than having them come down 146 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:44,079 from two directions and get twisted around there. So I think I think we can 147 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:49,440 probably live with two ramps if we had an auxiliary dock for people who are you 148 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:52,560 know picking people up and >> that existing auxiliary dock you're 149 00:10:51,200 --> 00:11:00,519 talking okay >> um and you know whether we can afford to 150 00:10:56,000 --> 00:11:00,519 fix it is not the question 151 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:06,160 » well >> which depending upon which method we 152 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:10,560 choose I know we can't afford coffford that's just out of 153 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:15,839 Okay. Um I guess next steps 154 00:11:14,079 --> 00:11:20,160 do you how about I represent the cost estimates 155 00:11:18,959 --> 00:11:23,279 and then do you guys want to make a formal decision on that or is this the 156 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:27,760 decision? >> So I have a meeting with Kirk from 157 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:32,160 waterways on Thursday of this week to see if like can we pair this money with 158 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:39,440 more money and do something different. >> When do we need to choose a a course? I 159 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:42,480 » I don't have a firm deadline. I I'd like to know by October, I think, would be a 160 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:47,120 good time. >> Well, we we do need to light a fire. 161 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:52,560 » And we probably should have hard numbers to look at, too. 162 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:55,920 » They were presented pretty a couple phone calls just to make sure. 163 00:11:54,079 --> 00:12:01,120 I'm just curious to see what the traffic now the first year of the big parking 164 00:11:58,959 --> 00:12:05,440 lot and the better traffic flow compares to the last two years. last year when we 165 00:12:03,279 --> 00:12:09,200 had a disrupted season and the season before when we had the old facility. 166 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:12,240 » I've heard a little congested still down there, but but not 167 00:12:10,959 --> 00:12:15,680 » I'm not like it was >> my my my comment would be based on 168 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:20,720 personal experience. I have not been backed up at all. 169 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:24,639 » I've just noticed driving by saying, you know, [snorts] 170 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:30,959 » but the flow is much smoother. >> Much smoother. So let's get we'll get a 171 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:34,160 decision made by by the second October meeting. I give 172 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:38,639 enough time. >> See at the next meeting. Maybe we can 173 00:12:36,399 --> 00:12:41,120 just get a little put something in the next meeting. 174 00:12:39,680 --> 00:12:45,680 » Okay. Let's just keep working and then maybe the first October meeting. 175 00:12:43,839 --> 00:12:49,040 » I will be here at the first October. >> Oh yeah. Then that would work. So as 176 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:52,399 long as it's not putting too much pressure, but let's get it keep it 177 00:12:50,560 --> 00:12:56,639 moving. If I may, I forgot to mention backtrack 178 00:12:54,560 --> 00:13:01,279 the lead service land and how the next meeting. Um, we're our regularly 179 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:05,440 scheduled progress with the contractor will take place the same day of your 180 00:13:03,839 --> 00:13:09,120 first meeting every month. >> So, when I come to the commission 181 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:12,720 meeting, I should have the latest and greatest update on anything. 182 00:13:10,959 --> 00:13:18,160 » Okay. Um, >> again, I really like this that you just 183 00:13:16,560 --> 00:13:22,560 keep it safe. >> The uh wastewater treatment type 184 00:13:20,079 --> 00:13:26,880 upgrades just uh I know the city's been looking at they're adding comments to 185 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:31,920 that's going to go back out to the um HDR for some revisions 186 00:13:30,079 --> 00:13:40,279 and they're working on the hydraulic analysis of the plant right now. 187 00:13:35,680 --> 00:13:40,279 I think beyond that um 188 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:49,200 Michelle and Kevin have been meeting on the safe road to school but uh 189 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:53,879 I don't have too much on that one at this point. 190 00:13:51,859 --> 00:13:53,879 [snorts] 191 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:57,240 » Thanks 192 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:10,240 some bills. Go. All right. Um, item number three, home engineering inway 193 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:17,440 61503, Washington Street Community Facilities Project, $5,1812. 194 00:14:14,560 --> 00:14:23,279 » I move we pay the invoice support. >> Moved by Commissioner Desard, supported 195 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:30,320 by Commissioner Wilkinson to pay 61503. Any more discussion? None. All in favor? 196 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:36,560 I motion carries. Um co item four Coleman engineering 197 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:42,440 invoice 61504 Washington Street sewer project 231135 in the amount of 198 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:42,440 $7,714.38. 199 00:14:43,519 --> 00:14:51,600 » And will we pay the bill invoice number 6104 61504 for 7738. 200 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:55,680 We'll find our red. >> Yeah. No, you guys are fine. Um, it's 201 00:14:54,079 --> 00:15:00,160 been moved by Commissioner Wilson, supported by Commissioner D. Start to 202 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:04,279 pay invoice number 61504. The amount is 7,100 7,714.38. 203 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:15,360 Any more discussion? Hearing none. All in favor? I post. Motion carries. 204 00:15:10,959 --> 00:15:21,279 Item five, home engineering invoice 6150 for water project 231136 205 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:26,560 in the moment of $5,15.50. >> I'll make a motion. We pay invoice 206 00:15:24,399 --> 00:15:30,440 number 61505 for the amount of $5,15.50. 207 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:42,399 » I'll support back to pay six invoice 61505 in the amount $5,15.50 208 00:15:39,839 --> 00:15:47,839 supported by Commissioner Wilkinson. Uh any more discussion? Hearing none. All 209 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:52,639 in favor? Oh, motion. Item six, uh, Coleman Engineering 210 00:15:50,639 --> 00:15:57,199 Invoice 61278, wastewater treatment facility 211 00:15:54,079 --> 00:16:03,680 improvement project, uh, number 260105 in the amount of 14,57690. 212 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:08,160 » I move we pay the invoice support. >> Um, moved by Commissioner Start, 213 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:12,440 supported by Commissioner Wilson to date invoice 260 105690. 214 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:22,480 All in favor? I post. Motion carries. Okay. Item seven, uh, crane engineering 215 00:16:20,079 --> 00:16:28,880 variable frequency blower in the amount of $19,41852 216 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:32,560 cents. Anything you want to add? >> That's actually 217 00:16:30,639 --> 00:16:35,759 Oh, >> okay. 218 00:16:33,199 --> 00:16:39,279 » Yeah, >> I was wondering because I thought, 219 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:45,680 didn't we just buy >> Oh, yeah. Yeah, I thought we were 220 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:48,880 discussing today because it was going to date. 221 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:53,600 » This one was installed at the end of June and we just got 222 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:56,959 » So this was the one that we approved then. All right. 223 00:16:54,639 --> 00:17:00,720 » This was a soul source if I remember. >> Yes. I move we approve the invoice. I'll 224 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:04,559 support >> Okay. Presented by Commissioner Dart. 225 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:10,880 supported by Commissioner Kunich to pay Green Engineering's invoice for a pump 226 00:17:07,679 --> 00:17:17,199 amount $19,418.52. All in favor? Oppos? 227 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:22,959 » Okay. Um, okay. The last service line um project 228 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:26,640 reimbursement packet to approve the outstanding invoices. And I don't think 229 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:31,360 I I looked at the packet. I don't think we need to pull these out. They're all 230 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:33,520 part of one invoice in the packet. Um, >> and this is just a request for 231 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:37,840 reimbursement, >> right? 232 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:45,840 » For 15,1925. >> Yeah. Well, yeah. Or did we already get 233 00:17:41,679 --> 00:17:48,160 reimbured for 14 854? >> Is that what that saying? 234 00:17:47,360 --> 00:17:50,240 » Reimbured for >> that saying that we already approved 235 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:56,039 that one. >> Yeah, we approved that portion. The 236 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:56,039 other two $1,33725. 237 00:17:56,559 --> 00:18:03,200 I don't know. >> I move we approve the request for 238 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:08,080 reimbursement in the amount of $16,195 $191 239 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:13,039 and two support. >> Okay. Moved by Commissioner Desard, 240 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:19,200 supported by Commissioner Wilkinson to uh approve the reimbursement request uh 241 00:18:15,679 --> 00:18:25,400 in amount of 16,19125. All those in favor? Any oppos? Motion 242 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:25,400 carries. 243 00:18:26,799 --> 00:18:37,600 um zoning board of appeals application. John Miller uh is 244 00:18:33,919 --> 00:18:42,799 put his application in to be on the CDA. >> Oh, I know. Does anybody know? 245 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:47,760 » I do. He is He's a a lawyer um in in town here. He he and his wife have been 246 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:52,720 here since the 2017. He's avid uh rock climber, ice climbering guy. He's part 247 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:55,120 of the um he's part of the mountain bike club. 248 00:18:53,520 --> 00:19:02,080 » Uh Yeah, he's I and he's been on Z's in the 249 00:18:59,039 --> 00:19:07,280 past down state. >> It's important to that he understands 250 00:19:04,799 --> 00:19:11,200 that he's not legal counsel for the >> He does. 251 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:16,160 » Okay. So, his opinion is his opinion. >> Mhm. 252 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:20,960 » Um I move we approve the appointment of John Miller to the board of zoning 253 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:27,760 boards. support moved by commissioner discharge supported by commissioner to 254 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:33,120 approve Tom Miller on on the zoning board of appeals. Any other discussion? 255 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:36,880 Hearing none. All in favor? Post. Motion carries. Item 10, data center 256 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:40,799 discussion. Michelle. >> Okay. Yeah, I've gotten a couple 257 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:45,039 questions from people on data centers, but I thought we've never really 258 00:19:43,039 --> 00:19:50,480 formally chatted about that. So, I thought, well, let's just do a little 259 00:19:47,679 --> 00:19:54,080 chat here about those. Uh, the beacon wanted to do a story and I emailed 260 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:58,559 everybody what the questions were, but basically I'm curious if people have 261 00:19:56,080 --> 00:20:04,400 gotten or commissioners have gotten any inquiries about data centers coming to 262 00:20:00,799 --> 00:20:09,600 town. I've got nothing. Um, general thoughts on locating a a 263 00:20:07,360 --> 00:20:14,000 data center in Mun? Well, I I never really knew much about 264 00:20:11,679 --> 00:20:18,960 them until I went down to Shbboan, Wisconsin. And um between Shbbo and 265 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:23,039 Milwaukee is they're putting one in. >> It's massive. And that's why we said in 266 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:28,159 the email that you know 450 acres probably would not cut it. Um 267 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:34,320 personally, from what I'm seeing, it just uh it disrupts the land. It 268 00:20:31,679 --> 00:20:39,760 disrupts the landscape. They have a huge impact on the community 269 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:45,679 » specifically if it's a smaller community and they have a huge impact on the grid. 270 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:50,559 I don't understand in a in a very general sense 271 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:58,000 the necessity to build as many large 272 00:20:54,559 --> 00:21:02,320 facilities as fast as we can. I mean it's more than an exponential 273 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:09,440 explosion >> of data data centers uh which I'm 274 00:21:06,559 --> 00:21:15,600 finding is a variable term >> um and I don't know you know 275 00:21:13,120 --> 00:21:19,360 I take the internet for granted I got everything I need to know I can get on 276 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:23,760 that phone I can talk to people on the other side of the planet I can I have 277 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:29,600 the sum total knowledge of of civilization right there And I don't 278 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:33,760 know if we're going to exponentially improve that. I don't know that that's 279 00:21:31,360 --> 00:21:38,640 possible. And and the artificial intelligence part is starting to scare 280 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:41,440 me. Um >> well, there's a workforce element too. 281 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:46,400 There's >> there is, you know, even though the 282 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:49,760 construction would involve huge crews, um there's very little to be done there 283 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:54,240 by humans. >> And from Yeah. From what I was what I 284 00:21:52,400 --> 00:22:01,280 understand, one of the biggest data centers coming in. that he was in UPK is 285 00:21:57,919 --> 00:22:06,480 only employing like under 400 people and it's the biggest one that may on a 286 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:10,080 community this size that would be a huge and we couldn't fill 50 pe 50 people 287 00:22:09,360 --> 00:22:15,919 couldn't fill. >> Yeah. I mean even if I just don't see 288 00:22:13,120 --> 00:22:18,240 the land the the the power resource I mean 289 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:22,480 » and our electricity is already >> insane. Yeah. That would only drive it 290 00:22:20,159 --> 00:22:26,000 up the supply and demand in my opinion. Um, 291 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:31,679 » I don't I question the need and and because it's it's become a super 292 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:35,039 critical need of this country to build these as fast as we can 293 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:41,520 » anywhere. Unfortunately, >> um, AI, I hate AI. I mean, it has its 294 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:47,200 uses and I know professionals who will need to write a prof a professionally 295 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:51,840 authored document and and have AI do it for them and then they start to go in. 296 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:57,760 And as a writer, that's appalling to me. It's absolutely appalling. Um, and I can 297 00:22:54,880 --> 00:23:01,679 recognize AI generated content just like that. Not just the video stuff, but the 298 00:23:00,159 --> 00:23:05,679 written stuff. >> Anyway, that's my two cents. 299 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:08,880 » You have anything? >> I just don't think it's necessary to be 300 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:12,880 around here. >> Do you think at this time we need to 301 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:15,679 consider an ordinance saying we don't want any or 302 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:19,919 » I don't know that there's anything we can or should do. We don't have you know 303 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:23,840 what what there's not >> room 304 00:23:22,559 --> 00:23:29,840 in >> we could initiate some zoning 305 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:34,400 » restriction to prevent but I don't see the need because we just don't have the 306 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:39,840 footprint but we do have >> the water 307 00:23:37,120 --> 00:23:43,520 that's all >> okay 308 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:49,200 » all right I'm done >> okay we're going to item 11 um the Elder 309 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:54,640 County Renewable Energy Solutions Committee. Um Michelle was going to get 310 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:59,520 some more information. We didn't know if yesterday as of yesterday we need to 311 00:23:56,559 --> 00:24:02,480 refill that price was on that. Um I don't know if you were 312 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:06,799 » Yeah, I wasn't able to find out if we It's Yes, we had a commissioner on that 313 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:11,760 commission, but I haven't I'm meeting with Joan 314 00:24:09,039 --> 00:24:14,240 tomorrow. Um and I'll ask her if she's got 315 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:18,320 » uh what's her last name? >> Conor Summers. 316 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:20,799 » Yeah. from from the renewable resource or renewable energy. 317 00:24:19,279 --> 00:24:22,880 » I read the minutes every time the government I don't want to be on that 318 00:24:22,159 --> 00:24:26,640 commission. >> Okay. I 319 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:30,640 » I couldn't remember if if it was part of that committee list if the organization 320 00:24:28,799 --> 00:24:34,640 » it was on there but I don't know if I can't find anything that said yes we 321 00:24:32,559 --> 00:24:39,440 have to check tomorrow and um we'll maybe 322 00:24:37,679 --> 00:24:45,720 revisit that at the following meeting. Okay. No action taken. All right. Item 323 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:45,720 12, budget adjustments. 324 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:56,679 Um, what are we adjusting? Oh, when was it? 325 00:24:52,159 --> 00:24:56,679 When was it a typo or something? 326 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:03,360 » Christian, do you want to share or do you want to build up? 327 00:25:01,120 --> 00:25:11,039 » Yeah, there was a typo. Uh, should have been 12,000 that 2,000. Um, the legal 328 00:25:09,120 --> 00:25:14,159 defense came in more this year than anticipated. We didn't know that. 329 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:18,159 » Okay. >> If it was going to increase, how much it 330 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:20,480 was going to increase. Um, it's not a whole lot, but it needs to be adjusted 331 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,799 all the same. >> Okay. 332 00:25:20,799 --> 00:25:27,360 » Um, and then the rest of it is just a correction to a transfer that should 333 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:35,120 have happened back in 22 that was over corrected by Julie at the time. Um, that 334 00:25:31,679 --> 00:25:40,799 finally able to track down the root of where it originated and talked to the 335 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:45,840 auditors and got it corrected this year. can't do previous. So, 336 00:25:43,919 --> 00:25:49,120 » okay. The other 337 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,520 any questions? >> No. 338 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:56,240 » Entertain a motion. >> I move we approve the budget amendments 339 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:58,480 or adjustments for amendment adjustments. 340 00:25:57,120 --> 00:26:05,240 » Moved by Commissioner Desard and supported by Commissioner Wilkinson to 341 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:05,240 approve the proposed budget adjustments. 342 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:14,880 » All those in favor? I post. Motion carries. Item 16 13 special meeting um 343 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:20,080 for reappointing for appointing a new 344 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:23,080 commissioner to carry out the price for just 345 00:26:23,360 --> 00:26:31,400 28. He's in his second year. 346 00:26:27,679 --> 00:26:31,400 » Me and Bob are retired. 347 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:38,720 » I'm retired. >> That's right. Jordan, 348 00:26:36,799 --> 00:26:43,440 we already whatever. >> I think we said um 349 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:47,520 » and let's just discuss what what to do read the situation. 350 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:49,520 » We'll make a decision. We'll make a decision on it. 351 00:26:48,159 --> 00:26:53,279 » I would like to have their letters of interest before that. 352 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:57,840 » Yeah. >> And don't be surprised if any of them 353 00:26:55,039 --> 00:27:03,919 reach out to any of us. >> Um we were saying uh September 16th. 354 00:27:01,279 --> 00:27:08,480 » Is that a Tuesday? That's >> a Wednesday. 355 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:11,840 » Wednesday. I got to work. >> We're looking at Monday or 356 00:27:09,919 --> 00:27:13,520 » Monday. You're retired. 357 00:27:12,559 --> 00:27:20,799 » I am. >> But I got to work. Um, Monday the 14th. 358 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:29,320 » And would 500 p.m. be any good? >> Monday the 14th. 5:00 p.m. works for me. 359 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:29,320 » Okay. I got to put it in here right now. 360 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:36,400 » I write it down when I get home. want for it. 361 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:42,400 » Are we going to invite the the people? >> Yeah. I I when I looked back at the 362 00:27:38,559 --> 00:27:49,360 minutes from when we were going for um >> when we didn't 363 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:55,039 but we we all came to it and um and then uh it was just decided then. 364 00:27:51,919 --> 00:28:00,520 » So I question what did we put on the ad? Did we say that 365 00:27:57,279 --> 00:28:00,520 » on our 366 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:07,600 fourth? just the date that they were due. 367 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:10,799 » So, yep, I guess. Yeah, you can just get it out there. 368 00:28:08,559 --> 00:28:14,080 » At the very least notify the applicant. >> Um, just to throw this out there, I 369 00:28:12,799 --> 00:28:18,080 don't know what the schedule is for the county commission meetings. 370 00:28:16,799 --> 00:28:22,720 » Monday, I know they have Monday meetings, but I don't know what Mondays. 371 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:28,880 They have meet committee meetings and meetings in the whole alternately 372 00:28:25,919 --> 00:28:32,640 which >> well if we meet it I don't know what 373 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:35,640 time the county commission meets >> four 374 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:42,000 » I do we care >> why around one of the applicants is at 375 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:46,320 uh >> oh 376 00:28:44,159 --> 00:28:51,839 part of the county and maybe working at that meeting 377 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:56,240 » that's Let's find out. September 14th. [clears throat] 378 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:58,720 » 4 p.m. >> Well, 3 p.m. 379 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:03,760 » Yeah, we do >> four Tuesday. 380 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:07,440 » I can't do Tuesday. Um, >> retired. 381 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:13,200 » That's why I can't do Tuesday. I got something going on. Uh, do we do six 382 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:18,080 o'clock then? I can't imagine that. Uh, this one. 383 00:29:16,159 --> 00:29:24,240 » So, the dean really wants to be a member, right? Yeah. 384 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:25,039 » September 14th at uh 6. >> Yes. 385 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,039 » Yeah. >> Works for me. 386 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,480 » Yeah. >> Um 387 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:32,480 » it's a Monday. >> It's a Monday. 388 00:29:29,919 --> 00:29:38,880 » Okay. Um I didn't entertain a motion. >> I move we schedule a special meeting for 389 00:29:35,279 --> 00:29:42,480 September 14th at 6 p.m. to appoint a fifth commissioner. support moved by 390 00:29:41,039 --> 00:29:48,399 Commissioner Desard and supported by Commissioner Kunik to hold a special 391 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:53,440 meeting on September 16th at 6 p.m. Uh over billing our fifth commission seat. 392 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:58,000 All those in favor? >> I opposed. Motion carries. Public 393 00:29:55,279 --> 00:30:02,960 comment one minute limit. >> One one quick comment. When when can we 394 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:07,760 get the I'm sorry, when not public comment on the special meeting, when can 395 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:11,440 we get the >> the applications? It's open till Friday, 396 00:30:10,399 --> 00:30:15,600 right? >> Friday's going to send him out on the 397 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:16,960 8th or the day after Labor Day. >> Okay. 398 00:30:16,159 --> 00:30:18,640 » Tuesday. >> Yep. 399 00:30:17,279 --> 00:30:21,039 » Good. >> Okay. Sorry. 400 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:26,080 » A couple days. >> Did you have anything? 401 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:29,760 » Yeah, I said you just a comment about your organization. I think the city 402 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:35,440 being run very well and I thank you very much for doing that. 403 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:39,440 Um, back in September 2021, September 8th to be precise, there were a bunch of 404 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:45,600 machinery in on on the on the main road out there. 405 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:50,240 And one of the machines fell in a hole, another came to pick it up and it broke 406 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:55,520 the sidewalk when they did. Sidewalk got, you know, caved in quite a bit. And 407 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:59,840 when I talked to the engineer in charge about that, he said they would come back 408 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:03,200 and clean that up later. Well, it's several years later and nothing's been 409 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:09,360 done. I just wonder if there was any follow up on any of that. A couple of 410 00:31:05,039 --> 00:31:12,559 places where the site marks damage. I don't think Deon ever followed up on 411 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:16,399 it. >> Where was Where was the location of 412 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:21,039 that? >> Cherry and M28. 413 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:25,880 » Corner. Cherry M28. >> Tesla. 414 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,880 Yeah. 415 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:32,799 » Yeah. >> Well, there's there's a couple of places 416 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:36,799 where the sidewalk could damage at the same time, 417 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:39,039 » but nothing was ever done. It isn't severe, but 418 00:31:38,399 --> 00:31:42,320 » should be >> I walked out clumsy and I drove. 419 00:31:41,486 --> 00:31:47,519 [snorts] >> No. And I I was on the commission at 420 00:31:44,559 --> 00:31:53,760 that time. I don't recall um could it even be honestly even discussed. So 421 00:31:50,159 --> 00:31:56,720 apologize but that's so definitely follow up. 422 00:31:54,640 --> 00:32:04,240 » That's awesome. >> That's no complaint. 423 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:09,360 » All right. Item F commissioner comments hearing none. Item H adjournment and 424 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:15,880 entertain a motion to support move by commissioner pruned by commissioner 425 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:15,880 discernments to adjurnn. I'm nearby.