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they were not allowing any feedback I
think you're gonna be here be read into

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the substitute version Godfather I stuck
some in your mailbox working I found it

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let's get you a different chair

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get a call really is in society the
formation that it comes over time or so

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if it's remotely a grandmother for the
lift station project we ever do anything

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with that road out there on 13 and I
insurance guys they still building or I

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have a double degree I saw him that
interfere with the lake yard start back

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in spring fed yeah that's a good
question I don't know more they

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naturally well they've they're gonna
know they're cooking fries though

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there's that Street behind whatever that
Park is down by the old world

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well not the street from the old Rome is
on a front interests to the court but

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the wonderful time what that is what
they're requesting is for them to be

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able to close about thirty feet that hey
Vicki are you going in order you're not

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well these are now set up in the back
right yeah okay yeah yeah sorry

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don't see about friends almost almost
let's go mother's never see

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what were we talking about
Margot you should say faces real at all

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days they want to be able to drop Street
there for two hours or they can run up

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to a partner
Oh foot because they're going to spread

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them out around that black liquid their
faces yeah and they also want to know if

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they can use and they pay us order for
the useless limited that the thing

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that's down holding area of a big or
because the factors that we've got they

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said it will take us 12 hours we can use
that next one we go that is giving a

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forum with it to the other side looking
forward until prices yes or minister but

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Katya
Danny time you really providing that

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very ready for women
curve just message me he done every year

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giving her nails we had me yeah I could
have been driving zangulus get the grand

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Otero fine I say I'm sure what he's like
yeah anyone shall we gotta go yeah I

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don't know what I still Tom varieties we
can take a man I know here I talked to

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his brother but I can't get a hold a pen
to shop and get another goal if he's

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been there for Terry Swiss almond cherry
and this carry no no he just told me

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that he's happened Tom's not been
feeling real well

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I don't know what he's doing but not
helping us get business done that's

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melody tell me you're open money some
people said a whole bed of lies I can

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say Russia will be your elegant dinner
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no I called them and said we're gonna
have enough people move on that anyway

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right so I know
I feel but they don't how much money you

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got yeah well basically well tell if
they want a retaining wall come see me

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or a parking space

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well I think they've been communicating
and I think they've got it worked out

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everybody's got one so incredibly get
Magic around well are you ready to get

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this underway okay okay it's a little
bit past six o'clock here on the last

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day of February time for regularly
scheduled City Council meeting and as we

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typically do it we all rise remember
this Caroline's here with us Ness and

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please leave us an application for just
great

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I mean thank you point Allegiance I
pledge allegiance to the flag on the

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United States of America and to the
Republic for which it stands one nation

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under God indivisible with liberty and
justice for all

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clerk Darryl would you please call the
roll alderman you ottoman Porter Smith

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stairs
alderman Brown having and surgery today

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alderman Bob a heap text message me he
is absent tied up at one all right and

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as we did mention we keep the Haldeman
Brown and our thoughts and prayers

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citizens recovering from knee surgery
you're thinking about him we'll go ahead

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and get into our agenda this evening and
up first is the consideration of council

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minutes from February the 15th 2017 and
I'd entertain any amendments to the

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minutes miss Campbell versa Gloria

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three in the last paragraph we put other

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mama can I go Macomb the boring compass
while boring gone bunny are all like

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that not very interesting alright
anything further on the minutes

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entertain a motion to approve the
minutes as amended ii have a motion in a

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second quality favor signify by saying
aye opposed motion carries

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that takes us into our regular committee
and commission reports and alderman

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Bratton is not with us this evening
and so I'll handle these items under

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budget and finance excuse me I uh
skipped over the consideration of

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accounts payable register 674

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Tanna believe we have more handed out so
that also say 675 I believe your

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questions regarding the bills we owe

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any other questions on the bills the
term is all officers you're living on

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that bed

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we can certainly review that John if
you'd like it oh sure what other people

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did absolutely where we don't no matter
who desert because yeah number one who

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does is gonna suffer the same forest
pouring your pronunciation is just a

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matter of food has good few dollars
difference probably because with their

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truck maintenance and whatever that they
don't sell their name he always on time

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somebody you can depend on that makes a
big difference because a lot of times

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they're selling I gave it to you money
and you don't get it for Thursday he

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doesn't serenade is money this guy's
been great about I know that we had a

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basement repairs with the filler cut off
that's right insulin oh yes

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anything further we have a motion to pay
the bills is there a second

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most of the second all in favor signify
by saying aye opposed motion carries now

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that takes us to the regular standing
committee and Commission reports we did

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you may not have been privy to it I
don't I did see it and I'm glad that you

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pointed that out because it is less 676
does anyone have any questions regarding

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those various CDs that were purchased
and why not

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if not I'd like to show the motion that
we just passed amend to approve list

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number 676 as well does that please the
council okay

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thanks barb to point that out all right
now to budget in finance and chaired by

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Dave Bratton who is absent we have no
items under old business under new

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business we have financial reports to be
presented by mr. Scott Evans Scott the

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report that I had tonight you're
familiar with is the sales taxes for

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them to include the home rule tax bro so
through agency January we received two

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hundred fifty nine thousand Milka taxes
and February last year

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we're right at about the same feel as we
last year it's not seem to be the way

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it's going to continue plot so maybe a
little bit less each year but always

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data game like let's we're at do three
months and of course I remind you this

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autumn that 55% of our general fund
budget companies do that over seven

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eight nine thousand year and as you can
see with these first few months the

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Bowser attacks at least borrow from
Springfield at $68 for January and

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no in that bot I do that to let you know
that we have ever received before so we

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received everything for the previous
year but girl is about two months behind

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so and those also are a little bit lower
than previous year but actually this tax

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is so far this is probably divorce taxes
much boring to go into that where we

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this be

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by the city

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and then fly over work the budget would
be grew at time because obviously as we

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know the increased cost was astronomical
and we didn't actually get a new keeper

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plan in place until it resonated
particles episode so we'll have note

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about paying a higher amount does that
with the amount that look watts in a

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fork on another month before we get this
water right Oh more force that was

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messages that schedule showing the
various task houses

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the same format column so effective been
operating second account for both

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particular middle column is Illinois
ponds mine workers in Springfield start

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pounding speaking so basically through
at the end of December the gas the city

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have available that basically didn't
have outside restrictions on the

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testicles subjects to the council
decisions digitally in the face to wipe

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out and then if you throw have the money
that has outside your restrictions to as

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to what it could be used for that's
another four million twenty four

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thousand so at the end of the thing with
full city like staff of six million is

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not balanced
unfortunately no oh that is mine has

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been built up for the theta opposite a
plan that service which at folks a

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million dollar you know

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it looks a little bit seem to see that
was attached by now and another lap the

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last aid to the best clean last week
when I ran this report cumulative cost

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of the course water treatment plant they
at least for three point four fifteen

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million three hundred four feet down
published we have been two point three

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million of our own money and thirteen
billion today on and I believe it's

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local over a million dollars left to pay

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that should be forthcoming here
that's where we're at right now they're

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forcing the boss below is especially a
reason rate of typos

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land acquisition whatever it takes maybe
that's a breakdown therefore I've been

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doing for years old just the best bacon

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questions from the council all right
Scott thank you very much for that

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report

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that takes us to the next item which is
the budget adjustment for cleaning

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services this is something that our um
cleaning company came to me with and

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they have taken on some added
responsibilities in terms of cleaning

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the police department and we had talked
about during budget time what we wanted

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to do we have talked about rebidding the
cleaning services we had talked about

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going back and asking you know him for
some kind of concession or whatnot and

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his contention was I'm doing more
cleaning now that I've ever done

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actually and I've kept my rate the same
for a long time he is essentially asking

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for an extra thousand dollars over the
course of a year so $85 or 80h dollars a

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month for the extra cleaning done here
at the police station and until often I

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don't know if you can speak at all to
the things that were done downstairs

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there is added things there

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actually using it for officer space

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kidding and so I just he requested it
and I told him I'll bring it to the

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council I apologize of who we currently
use is that he does handle some secure

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you know is in and around areas where
there is secure information and we've

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never had any you know issues there and
I think he does do a good job and this

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is additional a flip side of that coin
is we discuss very bunch of time and we

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decide we didn't have any additional for
cleaning so how many hours before gosh

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Gary I mean I just wanted I don't know
how much it maybe another 15 minutes is

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maybe what he spends down there 15 to 20
minutes so if he hits that how many

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times he hit the police department a
week three times is that right so I mean

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two three hours four hours maybe that's
just a flat rate he's gone it's a third

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part time mr. Baum talk one time about
reducing the number of times right

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well we had discussed that and you know
the there is a lot of traffic in and out

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of the PD really probably should have
had him here this evening too because

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when I spoke to him about it
and no offense of police department but

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he said if I clean less than three times
a week he said there's there's just a

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lot of well essentially he said the
police department was messy and so

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anyway he had said he did not think that
that was a good thing that he'll come

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walking tonight to clean up

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he does charge accent for that video we
might come anything I think I think

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I'm feeling awesome I think that the job
had little hidden okay not approving the

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entry last year please remind me what
he's charging extra every time that he

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was coming to do a special to me

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we did have all of it Pierce today it
was a I don't know if everybody heard it

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but he did make a motion to approve that
extra thousand dollars okay we have a

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motion and a second all in favor signify
by saying aye opposed motion carries all

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right is there any public comment on
items concerning budget and finance

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you're none seeing none we'll move on to
the building and grounds Commission

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which is chaired by mr. Russell Brown is
where you mentioned earlier Russell's

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not here we don't have any items for
action there under old business or new

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business any public comment concerning
items of a building and grounds nature

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all right new record for building and
grounds under community relations again

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chaired by Dan Bratton we have a number
of items here under old business we have

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a request by city bees to utilize the
two city-owned parking spaces I reached

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out to them today and let them know I
didn't think we're going to have enough

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councilmembers here because we're going
eight to formally consider that anyway

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so we'll continue to hold that item on
the agenda until later date next we have

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a request by Bruce mothers taproom for a
street closure in June this is a

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holdover from the previous meeting when
we had discussed some potential

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conflicts there and we probably some of
this will coincide with the other item

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down here the VFW Street closures so mr.
Picoult well you know Willie we've

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always given all the weekends with that
one out of respect a block of way we're

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going to have some
terms of one of the mortars well we're

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not taking any money away from degree
after every that weekend and from the

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William water
I know maybe here correspond together

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this to kind of tell me that don't hurt
the VFW business and wounded warriors

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for that weekend we may have motion last
meeting to give them all the weekend but

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this one for that reason I'll respect
for the veterans and deliver lawyers

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I can't see what the big deal is when
we're giving them five months and we're

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giving them the tenth of June to week
after that why we're bringing this back

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up for that in special well I think
because we had said that we are going to

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consider another date or perhaps there's
bid discussions I think it's important

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for the folks here from Bruce brothers
to communicate what discussions they may

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have had with VFW or where that may
state we're trying to make everybody

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so we're not trying to step on the toes
and we're working with them you know

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with our stage they need you know inside
it's just we're already invested in

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those weekends as we sponsor with
awesome so well they've been doing this

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nothing only been in business up there
now for sure if they'd been in a

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swing.the warrior for five or six years

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but I thought I just don't see nothing
against you guys I hope you may have

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made knowledge up there you have let you
be open on the streets out there when

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the Union Warriors got in a bit of a
wiggle away in the far souls even going

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him to come in and judge the Costco you
know I guess Tamia don't so with the

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veterans in the wounding lawyers any
respect they're sitting in this council

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at somebody else feels within a block I
know that Relay for Life

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move those from that weekend to get away
from everybody else to the next weekend

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you know and I think you guys got the
weekend after that anyway don't see the

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10th again it's a yeah one again I guess
I spoke with Tom it's who I know is one

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of the members of the VFW earlier today
and he had expressed to me that there

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was some collaboration going on between
the VFW and bruise brothers I know we

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have a commander here mr. elder Jesse do
you want to speak to that any

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we could and we thought yesterday and we
kind of came up with they wouldn't have

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to have nothing reversing all the names
we've talked about do they're out by

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dance concerts closed round rotation

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sure gotta be a hobby well I there's no
question we're going to approve your

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well yeah I can't speak for the entire
council and I'm pretty sure there's no

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question we're going to approve your
Street closes just the other the main

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issue I guess for me personally is I
don't see an issue with Bruce brothers

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doing their thing earlier in the night
close a little bit earlier and then

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sending people down your way
if the VFW doesn't have an issue with it

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and that's what I understood earlier to
get back okay okay what time you suckers

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come in give an angry we're doing all
the other stuff the other head don't set

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up things right so yeah

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over here was it near quality of sound
Romar's and we're going to be throwing

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it over anyway
do either one of you see exact thing

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when there's more it would seem to me
when there's more going on it close

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guilty or people whether they're happy
winded Warriors are the residents are

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people coming into the city the more
that's going on the more options they

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have we had a lot of traffic which we
both events that went back and forth

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okay thank you
I've been essential events last year and

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uh there was no conflict it was going
crazy move are the night it was just if

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you think it hurt your your income or
your income you want to do whether

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whether I follow training yeah so you
don't know if it's having to over here

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so is the request from Bruges brothers
for a street closer from 5:00 to 8:00

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essentially then alright what's the
pleasure of the cancel somebody make a

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move all right we have a motion in a
second and what is the date on that

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second okay
to approve the street closure has

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requested butters where the staffer
Fortuna second all in favor signify by

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saying aye opposed vote motion carries
all right under new business I'm going

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to I'll just follow the pallets listed
here we have the request from First

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Baptist Church to vacate Logan Street
from 15th to 16th Street and I know we

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have a number of livers here I'm not
sure who wants to speak to the council

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on the issue but

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we are looking at some possible
expansion with deterrence we're looking

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at security which bases loaded forever

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and we are thinking that we control and
make a better secured area for the kids

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or to use or even 15 years of something
they're crossing that that parking so to

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speak yes the parking lot if we close at
King Street and

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it would just allow us more controls
more security we are looking at you know

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we talked for years about possible
expansion if we were to do that it would

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allow already having that in place

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if we

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mr. McComb Kim to you our chief both
what they're going to do for you for our

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sewer lines our water line step like
that

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arches what you're going to do for you
the Turkish ice quarry public yourself

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me access to the rear we will get call
fifteenth group of Professor chrome will

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get fifty three colleges and if we need
enacted is Ritter go back all the way

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back

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mr. McCullough really well we are a
table dance for me

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well you know who l of anybody would
either look at their Park Place part and

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city water and serve in the sponsor
announcing their before we can really

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talk about even doing and we got a look
at that part of it and I have a quick

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question than barbecue in our syllabic
street also a couple years ago there was

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a terrible fire woman is over there
sleeping area in that 3/5 culture

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community and package invested in
Holdens we got down and there was

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something that had collapsed with that
dog to reuse so there is gone sir there

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are no grass child actually that whole
area that goes down in the dip we loved

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it when it regular heart because we did
swimmin today got to do that was my

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stomping ground I do is I might only
concerns the key and and you can

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probably relate to this and some of it
is I like to think about yourself

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whatever ground summer but also honey
but then my concern is that as miss keen

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then notified that this could happen
because I'm not aware of its it has has

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you get offered half of that which I
don't know that she would even want you

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know if we make it something you have to
get into every

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enjoy a part of what lunch Jerrica their
poverty I an FBI I have very mixed

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emotions about it because I'm your best
read a lot that's because I go there and

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check on her
I don't know how my seven people use it

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I am concerned that she has not had
supper I don't believe she's had proper

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notification

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yeah Wow we have a concern on it
and it's really kind of seem smaller but

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181 and you've had an address at 1520
811 for 81 years and your rocks are

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going to have to changes if you close it
off any at all it can't be longer

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I don't think that you if they wouldn't
leave a lot reading well I think the

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bottom line is we just communication was
I assume you're on that

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fire standpoint to my gospel breakfast
we know that your disk researching we

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really are working on technology liberal
issues and this is one is a delight

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perfect has to shaker do you have
anything you want to share with us on it

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we talked about it this is just like
initial absolutely certainly yeah we'll

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definitely do that and I would just ask
that our public works Foreman take a

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look at what we have existing there in
terms of infrastructure under the street

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and then will I get that information
together and we'll continue to work

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together to try to make some that yes
she does that's better I'm between the

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two top three yeah

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see the forks there are a ton of them
are very good parking as there is

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actually a driveway between the useful
and or they use building and for town

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she works there oh yeah I understand
that I'm not questioning that whatsoever

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I don't I just hate like you know I have
mixed emotions about changing 81 year

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old like Ohio jewelry very much and all
right well let's Circle it it gets some

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information together and we'll hold this
on the agenda and now we'll see you guys

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probably get the next meeting or or at
least maybe not in two weeks but at

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least okay okay okay we will okay great
thank you so much ecology well I know

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that I know that you have used some
Robert I would I think all right that

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takes us to a request by the VFW for
street closures for Wounded Warrior

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weekend June 2017 mr. elder we've
covered some a lot of this ground

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already but is there anything else you
want to share with us

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bangle Alaska okay
and I think you on the letter it's sort

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of spelled out here on in flipside right
you gonna block the streets that not a

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courthouse like a cool file gotta clear
the judge is time to get it out earlier

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we would like to look out for the bird
coming aunt or eating

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Jimmy's tribe yet for hot yep one proper
part what time would you like I mean

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so three o'clock

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okay that's a consideration did you hear
what mr. herb is just II said not

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sure that we want to do it before the
courthouse closes that may cause some

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issues the other thoughts from the
council you can you can go ahead and

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lock early across here and get just off
and finally fw and as soon as the

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courthouse closes you could block that
it's great though as I know the judges

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will have a fit if we got that Street
off before they leave big barking our

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flash your cars go yeah yeah but I mean
if we go ahead and let you block it off

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here early and then do the other streets
on the judges or the courthouse bogus

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Woodhead we find a lot of it take their
reference a journal that we can do all

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one page upon two

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all right so we're wanting a motion to
allow the VFW to close the streets and

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which Street do we want them to close
early Gary south south tip we know we

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need to notify the service all
specificity probably so have you guys

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had communications with the sheriff's
lots

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okay we just need to let them know
because that book is straight through

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them out cause coughing I think I cut
there alright so I entertain a motion to

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approve the street closures for the VFW
with South tenth allowing to be closed

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at 3 p.m. and may rest after the
courthouse closes does that make sense

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the unique sale camps for for one time
in a POW camp their blossom L we will

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just take it four o'clock then ok Gary
made the motion for four pm for

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everything at the same time is there a
second all in favor signify by saying

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aye opposed motion carries
all right thank you guys

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all right that is everything under
community relations is there any public

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comment on those ions in additional for
community relations thank you guys all

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right hearing none see none that'll take
us over to the public Improvement

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Committee chaired by mr. Gary Nicole

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Jenny laughs hi myself is about the bike
route I have some information to share

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on that that I just got today Justin :
we got okay the bike route to the box

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culvert essentially is what we're
talking about in the mr. boss and Julie

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Peter sent a grant gutman came last time
part of trying to extend this bike route

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for Carbondale into Murfreesboro and
these various agencies trying to fund

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this the 55,000 that would be the
request for Murphysboro for the matching

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funds the question essentially was well
and as always where we got to come up

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with the Buddy I reached out to jokah
Pius who is of course the gentleman is

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developing a hotel on the corner and he
provided me with the letter today and it

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says that he wants to show his full
support for the project and that if the

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city of Murfreesboro is unable to find
other sources of revenue such as grants

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etc that he would give a cash
contribution in the amount of $55,000 to

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fund the project and so with that
backing essentially I would still like

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to go after the grant money over the
course now and 2018 when the bill would

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come due but he has made that commitment
so mostly I think because the hope is

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that it will eventually dead end into
his property and people riding bikes to

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stay at his hotel so I understand that
can we legally stand mother's world tax

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dollars and we literally spend our tax
dollars

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this wouldn't be catfish in that bike
passing okay well I wonder a little bit

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services the question we are in a future
with Bill and more importantly than my

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car

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if they do something like that what are
they going to finish them

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I mean I know the bridge down here is
already got a bypass when I know our

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side of it right the only bridge it
maybe don't with these worn out by

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Walmart
this goes over that Valley I don't have

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a bike path better I don't remember
I never see them one on but I was not

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here but can you tell me we're supposed
to stop there for road run do it well

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but that has set beyond our city limits
right right but I dot has and mr. bossed

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I don't know if you want to speak to the
guy who's here

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[Music]

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watch your last

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now for 2017 about four years ago we're
asked to revisit this pipeline routes

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for light rail engine again you know
other trans Americans bike route comes

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across website by contemporary vertical
all the time and they come from all over

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all the world and this is a popular area
provided with the goal of promoting

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sports recreation tourism and community
about four or five years ago he

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committed for brother Jack's planning to
go out and reach out to the various

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public and he will divide by by how do
we make things better a jack again it

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was God my name of mark Fenton at the
sparks mater Jack gallo aparment and he

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came in and did research at Jackson
County and sure where jack stands

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benefit
friendly economically from assuming

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things would be seven or life directed
toward enhancing my grounds at that same

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time I not was mandated do implement
complete streets list for pedestrians

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bicycling and vehicles so the
comfortable is going forth both

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Mossadegh nineties was what would be the
best place to put in background enhance

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the pedestrian traffic and how to be
coordinate that when I got does

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something so it's not more expensive
they're already doing something it's

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just good to do it there if that's what
happened so we put these everything

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together and I got came to us and said
this was just last year and just what do

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you want what is the most benefit of
jacket county and rural is going to do

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what it did need to do sport hydrops
internally terminal going to oficinista

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controlling from CIPA through centrally
building out the best thing was to

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connect vertebral property the emergent
problem with the same way to get to

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murder for profit of the bottom so the
part I got asked us to share some

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different routes we did they plugged it
into their programs and they came up

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with 13 and use certain you know play
not all 13 there's any kind of way that

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we can make that happen
and

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and they did that they came up around
the neck a virtual carbonyl that is

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right next to the 13th and then they
came up with the bridge on new 13 in

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front of the main shelter the old
railroad you scope has to be tore up

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planting doesn't matter camp I ground up
dummy tore up so I got said hey this

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would be a desist we can extend Wood
Road and at the inspections Wood Road in

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front of your main jumper it will be
just made into a bike route but we

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carefully we tear out the old railroad
overpass we will put in a bike culvert

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lighted and we will connect it there on
over to Airport Road and start the bike

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routes to birdsburg progress with
certain getting of the bike route test

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connector before all farm again
they they they sent out a notice

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could you please contact the different
locals at being city emerged look to the

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carbonyl Jackson County we would need
them to be 20% of the masses 6% over

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three and the officer said and they
asked if we could get a verbal

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commitment of that so I was here we were
here last time that's over - presenting

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with the grass and 25,000 verbal
commitment for 2018 to start that

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on the fifth day they're near or
adjacent to or that's correct me there

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their mandate is change state they are
further funding is related to buy ground

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so they want to help and these people
did return this or not they are licensed

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so that I use existing resources
property either either existing routes

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right or they're not going to go through
the pentagram stress no no no this is

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important for us community that it
wasn't doesn't tell me please about five

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counts planted right about thousand
miles trail by one old country

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and one of them signing off any system
therefore rolled into multi-level

423
01:04:03,349 --> 01:04:15,349
structure on a teen beat writer about
David about doctor and I like I like the

424
01:04:10,469 --> 01:04:15,349
officiating fun happens I start with

425
01:04:30,510 --> 01:04:37,880
what the basically wide rogue like I
said the only place that you need where

426
01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:43,830
the Bison focus after that little bridge
there you know is fast the cemetery

427
01:04:41,550 --> 01:04:48,620
coming in the Murphy there there's no
bicycle path on outside like there is on

428
01:04:46,380 --> 01:04:54,360
the new bridge I don't believe
well the discussion the discussion in

429
01:04:51,540 --> 01:04:58,830
those meetings did know obviously
research will about connected now this

430
01:04:56,580 --> 01:05:05,160
is the start but the connection was to
continue on to workers have an accordion

431
01:05:02,310 --> 01:05:11,430
theme that there was yours on presented
from you I got engineers that allows you

432
01:05:08,070 --> 01:05:17,850
to use the existing bridge was only 13
where took five buildings up so if you

433
01:05:15,030 --> 01:05:21,630
use that by that you can go so that gets
you you're out you're out of way of

434
01:05:19,380 --> 01:05:25,680
traffic so you go to but you also be
able to build a about underneath the

435
01:05:24,270 --> 01:05:33,270
bridge and get on the opposite side of
Andre anything is to minimize minimizes

436
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:36,900
titled accident which it will and that's
that well you've already got these

437
01:05:34,740 --> 01:05:40,550
people coming through and by binding
here and we

438
01:05:50,989 --> 01:06:00,390
any other questions comments mr. Smith
maybe Danny quickly refresh my memory

439
01:05:58,170 --> 01:06:04,799
about I think there was some discussion
about after this was all completed and

440
01:06:02,670 --> 01:06:09,779
then who's responsible for keeping up
the maintenance like on our part

441
01:06:06,869 --> 01:06:17,670
there would that be the city the cities
that you offered you have a solo bicycle

442
01:06:12,709 --> 01:06:23,999
awesome there are active in right now
this year we're doing these five times

443
01:06:21,539 --> 01:06:29,819
vertical Black Studies for mammals this
first the first unaffected a part of

444
01:06:26,910 --> 01:06:34,440
those nice thing so you have people that
are bicycle earth business that they're

445
01:06:32,130 --> 01:06:37,499
active in that but sure I mean it's the
city of Moreau in Jackson County and

446
01:06:36,329 --> 01:06:44,910
they do that but remember we're talking
about a five-round we're not talking

447
01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:53,579
about a highway Nathan should be pretty
normal very low hurting them okay I mean

448
01:06:48,180 --> 01:07:01,009
Runnels a battery charge the leaf blower
with your find and recall the things

449
01:06:56,849 --> 01:07:05,729
just not it's not that kind of activity
mr. urbis I was thinking at the last

450
01:07:04,019 --> 01:07:10,349
meeting you said they would come in from
Carbondale to be some baby yes no well

451
01:07:08,999 --> 01:07:14,009
yeah they're going to do that they are
going to do the maintenance on that in

452
01:07:11,849 --> 01:07:21,109
that list sorted in it and the contactor
is Gary Williams very Lizabeth City

453
01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:31,039
they'll discuss public airing limbs and
hearing limbs is the business this

454
01:07:27,490 --> 01:07:34,279
particle and carbonyl is it for fifty
five thousand things

455
01:07:31,970 --> 01:07:38,510
definitely our office amazed that also
they built a suit Airport go but it also

456
01:07:36,319 --> 01:07:44,809
looks back where that old grams of
trails plugs for Carbondale and those

457
01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:51,410
taxes to city park them so they are in
yes today so where are they going to

458
01:07:47,869 --> 01:08:04,849
maintain I would imagine able maintained
until two Airport Brooke this right here

459
01:07:59,960 --> 01:08:10,910
is the covert loop loop Cobra does lose
right over loop right back there to a

460
01:08:07,359 --> 01:08:15,380
hold that for the older tracks ran out
of Carbondale underneath the highway

461
01:08:13,160 --> 01:08:20,389
there and they've got they purchase all
that property there so obviously

462
01:08:17,569 --> 01:08:27,609
probably take care
I have current trail from coming to

463
01:08:30,699 --> 01:08:39,980
their own guinea you know some liberal
no you just have look okay from carnival

464
01:08:36,409 --> 01:08:45,560
to that point to this Woodrow you can
even set the township road so you can

465
01:08:43,069 --> 01:08:50,449
even ride your bicycle Waterloo Road you
can ride your bicycle on Allegro front

466
01:08:47,770 --> 01:08:55,580
so all they're doing is extending Wood
Road but it will be it will be for

467
01:08:53,299 --> 01:08:59,869
vehicles that will be just revise and
extend in front of the humane shelter

468
01:08:57,350 --> 01:09:08,569
and go under needs to do bike box
culvert and then go to the opposite side

469
01:09:02,449 --> 01:09:10,929
of 13 going on another side guy front
right

470
01:09:11,109 --> 01:09:21,980
alright so what they're looking for is
just a verbal pledge you know to support

471
01:09:17,509 --> 01:09:27,560
it and I would encourage an aye vote
with you know the backing of this

472
01:09:24,859 --> 01:09:35,060
private money I don't see how we can
lose even if we don't find our own

473
01:09:30,460 --> 01:09:44,920
extreme revenue stream for the project
the curved side Oh before I would have

474
01:09:39,440 --> 01:09:51,150
voted no probably but Joe's back
I sure if we get grant money for that

475
01:09:52,140 --> 01:10:01,570
the next phase I would I would think so
because ultimately he you know has seen

476
01:09:58,720 --> 01:10:10,210
some bike trail development in Valmeyer
area and it has helped his property

477
01:10:04,930 --> 01:10:15,100
there so even even before that get
connected with the place looks gets

478
01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:20,230
connected careful approach you allow
then access to get you know going on

479
01:10:18,820 --> 01:10:25,600
that side of the road they're not even
parallel inside of both state laws are

480
01:10:23,140 --> 01:10:29,500
pretty clear on that you know you have
access there are people that ride their

481
01:10:27,550 --> 01:10:34,300
bike now is good shoulder there all the
way so that you can if you can make it

482
01:10:31,330 --> 01:10:39,040
favor step by step and make it
marginally favored each step you make

483
01:10:36,750 --> 01:10:42,150
you're going to make this place better
lot more traffic

484
01:10:44,580 --> 01:10:58,960
I'd entertain a motion to express the
council's verbal support for the project

485
01:10:53,610 --> 01:11:04,170
$55,000 I have a motion and a second all
in favor signify by saying aye opposed

486
01:11:04,260 --> 01:11:13,420
motion carries thank you mister boss
thank you think in this dr. okay yeah

487
01:11:11,200 --> 01:11:17,530
we'll move on request the white diamond
on a lease if you found anything on that

488
01:11:15,610 --> 01:11:24,070
we'll see we're going to reverse it I
already had time I have researched it in

489
01:11:21,100 --> 01:11:32,230
so much as I have looked at what other
communities emailed the Illinois

490
01:11:27,880 --> 01:11:35,920
Municipal League and asked them as well
as the scylla mayor's Association to put

491
01:11:34,720 --> 01:11:40,240
that question out to other
municipalities of Mayor saying here's

492
01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:48,070
our problem
what does anybody else does anybody else

493
01:11:43,060 --> 01:11:56,710
had a similar problem and the feedback
I've got Mac has been minimal I got

494
01:11:51,100 --> 01:12:01,110
feedback from one group that and we've
already been over this ground talked

495
01:11:58,750 --> 01:12:05,920
about you know having a single hauler
another city wrote back and said well

496
01:12:03,820 --> 01:12:13,990
they just do they have curbside pickup
i've yet to get any feedback on anybody

497
01:12:08,590 --> 01:12:18,610
who has implemented essentially a scale
or something of that nature to where

498
01:12:16,300 --> 01:12:23,050
they're laying the trucks or whatever to
keep them off the roads about but I have

499
01:12:20,890 --> 01:12:29,230
it I'll be honest with you I have it
followed up with it you know as hard as

500
01:12:26,740 --> 01:12:34,810
I could about how to set to emails well
I've done my part about it still a

501
01:12:32,350 --> 01:12:40,840
seeing more we want to limit in a small
truck I don't want to stop this from

502
01:12:36,670 --> 01:12:44,380
doing we give them six three months six
months to switch over from big trucks to

503
01:12:43,300 --> 01:12:48,970
use a little thrust
I'll see a big stop sister do it really

504
01:12:46,420 --> 01:12:53,340
either Gary I mean I said this before
the only thing that I think we ought to

505
01:12:51,660 --> 01:12:58,050
consider because
this is going to be an ultimate

506
01:12:54,770 --> 01:13:01,620
happening is once they have to go to the
smaller trucks they're probably going to

507
01:12:59,580 --> 01:13:04,080
raise their rates on all of our
customers because they're going to say

508
01:13:02,700 --> 01:13:09,840
well now we've got to run more trucks
that we got more people so we just need

509
01:13:06,150 --> 01:13:12,210
to be prepared for that in in advance if
that's where you want to go Richard I

510
01:13:11,250 --> 01:13:22,530
don't know if you have any thoughts
awesome this council can and I guess my

511
01:13:19,050 --> 01:13:26,340
question is how we enforce that we
emotional that we thought of that before

512
01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:35,310
we couldn't find any better with a scale
with the oil so yeah yeah so we have

513
01:13:32,820 --> 01:13:43,040
skills and running time ago so certainly
I would be very happy to see lateness on

514
01:13:39,420 --> 01:13:50,520
that but also there's lots of free
especially in the south I know headstart

515
01:13:46,860 --> 01:13:53,520
reservation area that doesn't have Alex
and I think that if we're going to do

516
01:13:53,130 --> 01:14:02,340
later
we really should think about areas and

517
01:13:57,500 --> 01:14:07,950
1517 Thursday and also 16th is a prime
example and 70 for that matter in the

518
01:14:05,070 --> 01:14:13,430
south they don't have grill alleys and
week we all take our trashmouth kisara

519
01:14:11,010 --> 01:14:18,480
receptacles and altitude we first
post-apartheid service we take into the

520
01:14:16,440 --> 01:14:24,210
car beach whatever they in your pick up
is but but it's just as damaging if not

521
01:14:22,050 --> 01:14:28,920
more to those over brick streets as we
there's our Alex please I don't know if

522
01:14:27,120 --> 01:14:35,910
that's more than we want to fight off
that's how far if we do consider doing

523
01:14:32,910 --> 01:14:41,220
it should we consider doing it as a
blanket it's not your salary

524
01:14:38,100 --> 01:14:46,820
well if you've got a certain limit on it
- that's something

525
01:14:42,920 --> 01:14:58,600
okay okay what it just says ally right
here so it would be a way also could

526
01:14:53,690 --> 01:15:02,199
maybe some of that big trucks on she's hairy or not

527
01:15:03,530 --> 01:15:11,630
Eric don't we already have weight limits
on most streets in Murfreesboro and and

528
01:15:09,710 --> 01:15:15,110
as soon as that garbage truck hits town
whether it's got anything or not he's

529
01:15:13,370 --> 01:15:23,600
over the weight limits that's probably
they're already violating our weight

530
01:15:16,610 --> 01:15:27,440
limits and I think so the only way
you're going to do this system pays to

531
01:15:25,250 --> 01:15:30,650
limit the size of the trucks and I'll
guarantee you that folks in town are not

532
01:15:29,150 --> 01:15:34,429
going to be happy with their bill when
you get when you get double the bill

533
01:15:33,110 --> 01:15:39,140
every month because that's what it's
going to be when you when you get twice

534
01:15:37,130 --> 01:15:43,400
as many trucks across utilize those
develops we've got little things you got

535
01:15:42,199 --> 01:15:47,510
to consider I know they're carry on
salvation mine my alley has three of

536
01:15:45,260 --> 01:15:52,640
those things go to it every week they
even tear down the post on the corner

537
01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:57,530
when they turned and sold me not before
but I did you I won't be here when this

538
01:15:55,460 --> 01:16:01,280
all happens probably good when it does
happen if it does happen you're going to

539
01:15:59,449 --> 01:16:05,090
have a tremendous increase in your in
your in your bill which gets you into

540
01:16:03,140 --> 01:16:07,360
double at least it lies all ready for
the aisle

541
01:16:08,400 --> 01:16:15,420
maybe there be some advantage I don't
know what it would be to get the trash

542
01:16:12,749 --> 01:16:17,280
haulers in here and say you're tearing
up or alleys who are you going to do to

543
01:16:16,739 --> 01:16:22,949
fix it
and I guess what they're going to say is

544
01:16:19,880 --> 01:16:27,449
nothing or we're on smaller trucks raise
your bill well and every time they turn

545
01:16:25,619 --> 01:16:31,440
like if you got one job going down
anyway just one from one end to the

546
01:16:29,400 --> 01:16:35,369
other but half the ax cut's are coming
through

547
01:16:31,889 --> 01:16:41,010
I thought my Ollie way I start in on
20th and one of them goes out on 21st

548
01:16:39,150 --> 01:16:49,309
Street and excellent comes from 20
Street all the way down goes out on 22nd

549
01:16:43,349 --> 01:16:49,309
ever placed a turn we got stepped or up

550
01:16:49,489 --> 01:16:57,570
well now I can't see something I think
your idea is the best could get gets get

551
01:16:55,289 --> 01:16:59,849
up together and talk about it I doubt
that you're going to get anything done

552
01:16:58,440 --> 01:17:06,749
with them because they do that the other
city and well let's do this

553
01:17:04,139 --> 01:17:12,539
Sandra please make a note and remind me
to reach out to the trash haulers and

554
01:17:09,360 --> 01:17:17,130
Murphysboro and we want to I want to
invite them to a council meeting and we

555
01:17:14,969 --> 01:17:21,630
need to show them that you know some
examples because they're pretty easy to

556
01:17:19,320 --> 01:17:25,619
find of the fact that our streets are
torn up and maybe one of the things we

557
01:17:24,059 --> 01:17:30,510
ought to do is say if you want to
continue to run these big trucks fine

558
01:17:27,239 --> 01:17:35,159
but you know the trash business as they
say is always picking up and they've got

559
01:17:32,610 --> 01:17:39,030
plenty of money and maybe they ought to
be reimbursing the city every year a

560
01:17:37,320 --> 01:17:43,800
certain amount of money maybe we ought
to be issuing them a franchise fee or

561
01:17:41,969 --> 01:17:47,670
something just to Oppel it because of
what they do to our streets

562
01:17:45,030 --> 01:17:52,469
so we her culture go up again and
they're still going at it to the final

563
01:17:49,199 --> 01:17:57,269
guy that's being happy I don't care I
mean if their business or do they happen

564
01:17:53,940 --> 01:18:01,600
to you this part of Smith Atlanta I mean
I don't think that the citizens of

565
01:17:59,940 --> 01:18:07,120
Norfolk soil should have to
after bills raised and pay for the

566
01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:10,690
garbage trucks damaging our streets like
they said I think we should want a

567
01:18:09,040 --> 01:18:16,290
conversation with them and say this is
what's happening to what can you do you

568
01:18:12,490 --> 01:18:16,290
know help us with this problem right

569
01:18:16,410 --> 01:18:24,310
I'll go to mr. Orbison in the air well I
know here's our in the county gets to

570
01:18:22,420 --> 01:18:31,810
the tipping theme for them to use the
landfill landfill right

571
01:18:26,520 --> 01:18:39,870
they pay to me go up drastically that
great conversation okay Eric

572
01:19:02,179 --> 01:19:11,909
that's just part you know once I scream
Daryl brick Street sure I have another

573
01:19:10,050 --> 01:19:16,199
thing you could discuss of what to
discuss with the trash haulers we do

574
01:19:13,500 --> 01:19:22,230
recognize reservist or be okay with us
doing it on a car rather than the others

575
01:19:19,850 --> 01:19:27,780
they do that in the hole that was
reservation line yes except yeah mine is

576
01:19:24,239 --> 01:19:31,409
too but it has a buttery soft oh yeah
mr. McComb assemble we're doing it

577
01:19:29,610 --> 01:19:36,860
Curtis I think every oh my father my
fear is parking right and you have

578
01:19:33,929 --> 01:19:43,530
people parked all up on spider-man 3
there are so loud from Stefan that's the

579
01:19:40,889 --> 01:19:49,650
only thing I see about Curtis I don't
have a problem with it what time the

580
01:19:47,670 --> 01:19:53,250
guys pack up and car sitting in the
street

581
01:19:50,330 --> 01:19:58,530
well yeah the trash picked up around the
club city and most of drivers anymore

582
01:19:55,880 --> 01:20:02,580
happens picking the container up from
the inside the truck and when they turn

583
01:20:00,270 --> 01:20:06,750
it up and we have it down the trust and
that trash is going everywhere anyway

584
01:20:04,550 --> 01:20:11,520
literally have a guy dog they've got the
article yeah take that when I go to

585
01:20:09,120 --> 01:20:17,159
dumping take down the three foot above a
truck and then it's blowing everywhere

586
01:20:13,199 --> 01:20:21,389
you know never got your vinegar yeah
alright loving this tax are we in

587
01:20:19,830 --> 01:20:25,409
agreement that the best thing we could
do here would be to bring trash haulers

588
01:20:23,610 --> 01:20:29,960
in and have a discussion with them sir I
think any matter what we come up with

589
01:20:27,449 --> 01:20:35,580
needs to be their lawyers or sentences
so that we might have them you know

590
01:20:33,630 --> 01:20:40,470
you know for example what the percentage
of people that have perfect buys in the

591
01:20:38,310 --> 01:20:44,550
city because of necessity right and what
streets bellegarde

592
01:20:41,640 --> 01:20:54,810
you know be nice to know what's under
get one okay first I would is no alley

593
01:20:47,670 --> 01:20:57,230
yeah alright let's move on to the new
video

594
01:20:57,560 --> 01:21:06,540
all right discussion an approval of
possible action on the old shoe factory

595
01:21:01,320 --> 01:21:10,860
at 4:37 18th Street so you may remember
Emily birch from the County Board has

596
01:21:08,370 --> 01:21:15,960
been looking after some grant dollars
assessment dollars cleanup dollars

597
01:21:13,070 --> 01:21:21,060
that's kind of refocused course this
brick here is from the brown shoe

598
01:21:17,490 --> 01:21:29,040
factory here in front of me and it is
continue to deteriorate and the main

599
01:21:24,900 --> 01:21:37,220
concern is that the western wall if it
falls is going to be able to reach 19th

600
01:21:32,370 --> 01:21:41,700
Street I've had discussions with Eric
had a few discussions with our city

601
01:21:39,990 --> 01:21:50,150
attorney about what you know as our
responsibility we have a legal

602
01:21:43,140 --> 01:21:55,950
obligation to do anything there we I
feel like that western wall is my

603
01:21:53,850 --> 01:22:01,140
primary concern because when it goes it
will get to the street so I wanted to

604
01:21:58,860 --> 01:22:10,370
have an opportunity Eric did you have a
chance to talk with Carol Holman today

605
01:22:02,850 --> 01:22:10,370
and what did she express Carl

606
01:22:36,940 --> 01:22:53,620
the mr. Holden has Alzheimer's disease
essentially and so his but the property

607
01:22:46,030 --> 01:23:03,660
is in his name okay - and both Carl
interval then both are they get okay

608
01:22:59,490 --> 01:23:03,660
mister the property insurance

609
01:23:05,760 --> 01:23:20,160
I don't need him - yes I see you I don't
think anybody answer probably not a lot

610
01:23:15,180 --> 01:23:25,410
but what you and we get into taking
understanding with what I've been

611
01:23:22,450 --> 01:23:31,360
griping about this for six seven years
before the north wall stores only and

612
01:23:28,510 --> 01:23:36,490
did it one time we had a guy that's
going to put it on the ground with a

613
01:23:33,430 --> 01:23:41,560
scrap scrap ain't workin that's from now
and he's in bad health so you can't get

614
01:23:38,200 --> 01:23:46,240
that done but it almost all needs to be
knocked in not just a West Louisville

615
01:23:43,570 --> 01:23:53,080
cousin you got here he freezes business
on one side if the west wall kind we not

616
01:23:50,020 --> 01:23:57,040
the west wall down and then when the
other wall falls in on his business

617
01:23:54,670 --> 01:24:06,310
there are seven further loss to support
at will at four well I agree with you on

618
01:24:01,210 --> 01:24:12,070
that Gary I am obviously mr. Holman
doesn't have the finances to hire

619
01:24:09,760 --> 01:24:15,520
somebody to push it in the city doesn't
want to take ownership the property and

620
01:24:13,750 --> 01:24:22,540
I'm not suggesting that because it's got
all sorts of various EPA liability

621
01:24:18,940 --> 01:24:29,440
issues one of the things that we had
discussed was through our essentially

622
01:24:26,530 --> 01:24:37,300
rehab we still carry on the books Scott
do we not a rehab loan type of line and

623
01:24:33,750 --> 01:24:44,110
I mean I know that that's very rarely
used we don't want to use it at all

624
01:24:38,980 --> 01:24:48,010
anyway but I just want to put it out
there because at some point that wall is

625
01:24:45,850 --> 01:24:53,230
going to go in the street and if there'd
be the ability to quote unquote loan

626
01:24:50,800 --> 01:24:59,650
some money and not get in the chain of
ownership and get that pushed in

627
01:24:56,170 --> 01:25:04,660
it's just a get the property secured
you're talking about in this poem in

628
01:25:01,270 --> 01:25:07,920
here right well I'm sorry Gary go ahead
length

629
01:25:05,370 --> 01:25:12,510
that would be a good deal and I think
you're distracted at the same time about

630
01:25:10,080 --> 01:25:15,390
getting that all pulled in but when you
pull it in

631
01:25:13,320 --> 01:25:18,930
no matter who pulls it in you have
somebody pull that in and leave it like

632
01:25:17,100 --> 01:25:24,120
you're going to have to spray all the
water as it's coming down because they

633
01:25:21,750 --> 01:25:29,940
asked that's a sentence you don't have
to we'll have two ferns for somebody to

634
01:25:26,700 --> 01:25:34,820
keep up with right you can't get in
there and take tasks that's a salad the

635
01:25:32,340 --> 01:25:49,370
EPA will let you spray it with water
keep it from getting up in the air right

636
01:25:36,990 --> 01:25:49,370
as you're pulling it in Linda yeah

637
01:25:50,670 --> 01:26:00,630
it is data no it it is not approved yet
but it is it was submitted and under

638
01:25:58,170 --> 01:26:09,210
consideration I think that that should
be some sort of reply on that money into

639
01:26:03,090 --> 01:26:14,360
March yeah I hope you forgetting what
7im wiki for getting her down not just

640
01:26:11,520 --> 01:26:19,860
thankfully effective west wall down
we're going to loosen that right other

641
01:26:17,310 --> 01:26:23,970
wall up when the fifth fold over on
breezes business is someplace along

642
01:26:21,870 --> 01:26:28,860
through that they're going to say we
done it because if we can take it all

643
01:26:25,530 --> 01:26:34,050
down so get it all pulled in and it's
going to have to be done with probably a

644
01:26:31,470 --> 01:26:38,960
crane and a racquetball we get it come
over miss Campos

645
01:27:28,100 --> 01:27:40,199
he also sparked something on fire okay
not really that doesn't need to be over

646
01:27:37,140 --> 01:27:45,170
of the properties parlance careful okay
we know this era grief workout from Jill

647
01:27:45,380 --> 01:27:57,449
know the properties one parcel number in
order for it would require a competitive

648
01:27:55,500 --> 01:28:02,550
that property and somehow splitting that
building for mr. briefs adjust my

649
01:27:59,340 --> 01:28:07,080
enforcement entity which whatever has
simpler

650
01:28:03,330 --> 01:28:11,700
I believe is something to that effect we
had two parts building our entire

651
01:28:09,000 --> 01:28:18,300
building but it is one parcel one parcel
number cannot just going to lift that

652
01:28:15,870 --> 01:28:29,790
fashion the building needs click the
record owner all right I don't would yes

653
01:28:24,720 --> 01:28:35,340
it's sort like real estate tax through
the home and pay all that that's dummy

654
01:28:31,740 --> 01:28:41,550
which actually put that okay so it's
when you say it was all one one all

655
01:28:39,060 --> 01:28:47,430
relax Barbara's cast or portable member
it led me to believe that they go would

656
01:28:44,160 --> 01:28:53,760
be the these people the owners the
owners that would be liable for the

657
01:28:49,590 --> 01:28:58,620
Barbie taxes even though they're so
great as far as you know does not pay

658
01:28:55,710 --> 01:29:18,150
any real estate tax for that property
that was just a little beyond the facts

659
01:29:14,310 --> 01:29:22,560
feel somebody that he was four years
ahead in something all right so if I

660
01:29:21,000 --> 01:29:28,830
could I want to bring this conversation
back into the main point and that's that

661
01:29:26,330 --> 01:29:35,460
what are we going to do and I think that
are are only because I know what I've

662
01:29:33,540 --> 01:29:38,340
always tried to think of the back my
head and probably what bills thinking is

663
01:29:36,900 --> 01:29:45,510
this all great conversation but what
money who is going to do all those we

664
01:29:39,780 --> 01:29:52,680
gonna give it right so what can we do
mr. Blake in terms of can we order the

665
01:29:49,500 --> 01:29:57,270
holmen's to make that property secure
because it's out of code

666
01:29:55,560 --> 01:30:02,210
if we had Eric and already said they
noticed demolish will repair that

667
01:29:58,980 --> 01:30:09,450
property under the state statute
response of state statutes the city

668
01:30:05,580 --> 01:30:13,410
could fix your students this city you
know somebody does not having money to

669
01:30:10,860 --> 01:30:19,910
do it the court sources tell them to do
things they cannot do to notice very

670
01:30:15,390 --> 01:30:19,910
expensive from the city standpoint

671
01:30:21,260 --> 01:30:28,190
we want to be careful with city does not
be in control of this property and then

672
01:30:25,580 --> 01:30:33,080
any city getting put in position of any
possible wider city complete forward

673
01:30:31,160 --> 01:30:37,580
with a complaint for demolition of the
property and get that order of course

674
01:30:35,870 --> 01:30:42,590
the city would be in position did we
have an order to the bottles to property

675
01:30:39,050 --> 01:30:46,700
without money to do it you know we want
to be willing terribly but not being put

676
01:30:44,510 --> 01:30:51,710
in a position of taking that property
over or having them some kind of

677
01:30:48,470 --> 01:30:55,040
obligation there to do something but
getting the demolition order would not

678
01:30:53,060 --> 01:30:59,870
put us in any kind of chain of ownership
it would but we just kind of feel a

679
01:30:59,210 --> 01:31:03,800
little money
thank you having that word that gives us

680
01:31:02,420 --> 01:31:09,470
the right to take this whole building
down if we were going to take that court

681
01:31:06,200 --> 01:31:13,310
action to do something with the building
we would like to do something more

682
01:31:10,760 --> 01:31:18,730
limited there was maybe the money to do
such as a something to petition to put

683
01:31:16,520 --> 01:31:24,770
the building in a safe and secure
position position or condition for right

684
01:31:21,950 --> 01:31:30,410
now which is what you suggested mayor if
we were going to get an order limited to

685
01:31:28,280 --> 01:31:37,210
putting the filling in a safe and secure
condition such as taking down walls and

686
01:31:33,100 --> 01:31:37,210
differently falling now and then

687
01:31:39,190 --> 01:31:47,330
so the earth advising that we wouldn't
seek a demolition order but we've seek

688
01:31:45,350 --> 01:31:52,040
it order to make the property secure
we'll think unsecure said hanging down

689
01:31:50,060 --> 01:31:59,480
anything to have me be come down right
now and have we already done that area

690
01:31:55,880 --> 01:32:12,200
theories well it is start to make the
property secure it was that procedure

691
01:32:09,920 --> 01:32:19,160
would be the same processes follow in
eating in order to demolish this

692
01:32:15,710 --> 01:32:24,350
Interphone listen would we be smart even
though we don't own the property right

693
01:32:20,660 --> 01:32:30,230
now to get a cup of gamble contact us to
give us an idea what was going to cost

694
01:32:26,680 --> 01:32:35,990
can we can we legally do that sure sure
then we'd have an ideal what route we're

695
01:32:33,830 --> 01:32:40,460
going what kind of money it's going to
take just to get it secured on the

696
01:32:37,640 --> 01:32:45,380
ground well we could do kind of walk and
chew bubblegum do bowls because I really

697
01:32:42,920 --> 01:32:52,910
think it's important that we show that
neighborhood that we are you know taking

698
01:32:48,650 --> 01:32:57,500
the steps to you know make this place
safe for 19th Street for the surrounding

699
01:32:56,210 --> 01:33:03,350
neighborhood and I would like us to
pursue we can get subcontractors to give

700
01:33:00,860 --> 01:33:09,170
us some numbers not also like us to have
our attorney pursue that order to make

701
01:33:07,310 --> 01:33:16,160
the property secure so that we got that
in hand also because if we do get this

702
01:33:12,350 --> 01:33:24,910
money then we've got an order in hand
already that we can apply that money to

703
01:33:20,890 --> 01:33:31,820
let me ask you this Richard if we pursue
then what we're saying in court maybe

704
01:33:29,690 --> 01:33:35,780
they can't afford to do it seven cities
per centum to do it and what we're going

705
01:33:33,380 --> 01:33:39,350
to be want to do it and if we don't have
the money

706
01:33:36,730 --> 01:33:45,730
that's starting to fall down on somebody
or we in that liable suit

707
01:33:41,800 --> 01:33:52,450
why we be on this run to the Gresham
Gary about our having taken up control

708
01:33:50,200 --> 01:33:56,890
this building that's why we would
suggest something we know we don't have

709
01:33:55,000 --> 01:34:03,040
money right now to complete the
collision of that bill if we limited

710
01:34:00,040 --> 01:34:07,780
what our action would take or what our
action would be what we would ask

711
01:34:04,720 --> 01:34:16,920
authority to do to make feeling safe and
secure now it's time that that work it

712
01:34:13,150 --> 01:34:16,920
would let me get comes a little later

713
01:34:20,610 --> 01:34:28,510
I'm like the American I do love this see
it on the ground even if we can't afford

714
01:34:25,690 --> 01:34:34,180
to clean it up because you can put one
an orange picket fences around and if

715
01:34:30,910 --> 01:34:39,460
you have to to keep people away from it
but I'm just like - Meredith that's

716
01:34:36,670 --> 01:34:43,630
right Paul it's going to be out in the
street across the sidewalk is how do

717
01:34:41,890 --> 01:34:50,320
many people walk that sidewalk by one
after walking the street anyway but you

718
01:34:47,770 --> 01:34:55,420
know I it could kill from by walking one
four-sided Street it's already felt on

719
01:34:53,320 --> 01:35:00,250
the north side all the way over in the
very sister dissimilar I had to pick

720
01:34:58,420 --> 01:35:04,990
bricks up out of their yard I mean it
went that Polikoff scapulae we need to

721
01:35:02,530 --> 01:35:08,100
get it down before there's some way we
can get the money to do

722
01:35:22,110 --> 01:35:36,159
all right well let's Eric's going to
pursue this is what I would like I'd

723
01:35:28,719 --> 01:35:42,880
like a motion to let our attorney pursue
a action to have the property made

724
01:35:39,250 --> 01:35:50,139
secure and at minimum that means that
the holmen's need to put a fence up

725
01:35:44,590 --> 01:35:54,610
around it and secondarily that we get
some budgets of bids together from

726
01:35:52,360 --> 01:36:01,750
contractors on what it's going to cost
just to pull it in that's the two things

727
01:35:57,219 --> 01:36:05,650
I think we ought to do not just fold in
I just get their ability to get too big

728
01:36:04,900 --> 01:36:11,260
one
take it away and one missile yet you

729
01:36:08,710 --> 01:36:14,679
know so that we have well I think the
reason I don't mean to interrupt more

730
01:36:12,730 --> 01:36:18,099
but I think I think the bids are two
different bids because one's going to

731
01:36:16,329 --> 01:36:22,570
have to be from a full-blown
environmental couple probably and one

732
01:36:20,800 --> 01:36:27,550
can be from somebody they can just
collapse somebody with a a tin tractor

733
01:36:25,300 --> 01:36:40,659
and a lot of courage well before one is
ever before one they looked at it yeah

734
01:36:36,520 --> 01:36:43,929
EPA EPA was gonna let them one
contractors put it on the ground spray

735
01:36:42,610 --> 01:36:48,670
with water that was what they were
looking so good because there's no no

736
01:36:46,480 --> 01:36:54,780
way you get in take any s bestest Alice
because it's unsafe right well Gary you

737
01:36:51,429 --> 01:36:54,780
made you made the motion

738
01:36:57,300 --> 01:37:06,400
taking down the west wall or it's gonna
same kind of weather that you're calling

739
01:37:02,680 --> 01:37:10,660
now or just well I think I think the bid
needs to include bringing in the west

740
01:37:07,990 --> 01:37:13,960
wall and that's others baseball because
those are the two that I think once you

741
01:37:12,550 --> 01:37:18,040
take that west wall down I think the
less wall and south wall is going to

742
01:37:15,310 --> 01:37:24,910
fall down any our our action would be
happy important to take down right

743
01:37:22,650 --> 01:37:28,690
because easily if you put a fence out
there on edge of the roller by the

744
01:37:26,260 --> 01:37:32,950
sidewalk and wall for will stood by the
fence they convinced they go to hold

745
01:37:30,070 --> 01:37:38,580
that wall up and on so I mean I think
the bed should be the same as what the

746
01:37:35,890 --> 01:37:42,550
action is I think that's interesting
that's what we need to know how it's

747
01:37:41,290 --> 01:37:47,170
going to cost to do what we're going to
have the court threw out a letter to do

748
01:37:44,230 --> 01:37:50,770
yeah and then we can always get that
part of a bid asking well what would it

749
01:37:49,120 --> 01:37:58,630
because I don't know what it costs to
take that stack down out that but to get

750
01:37:54,820 --> 01:38:02,740
that west wall and the other wall down
you could very you know asking what it

751
01:38:00,790 --> 01:38:15,100
cost to do this amount what it cost to
do the whole way you live that way will

752
01:38:11,050 --> 01:38:20,070
be a motion where the complaints secure
the real building video

753
01:38:16,949 --> 01:38:28,260
with a petition for specific to the
location taking down take it down in six

754
01:38:27,810 --> 01:38:33,270
years
so the people cannot access the property

755
01:38:31,650 --> 01:38:38,660
that will be part one and the other one
it will be filing the collection to the

756
01:38:37,410 --> 01:38:47,310
money
Westphal and the telephone we are all

757
01:38:43,100 --> 01:38:52,050
propagating that one move Joyce what
what's the ocean water what I have is

758
01:38:50,070 --> 01:38:59,699
the motion would be to allow our
attorney to pursue an action to take the

759
01:38:55,590 --> 01:39:08,090
profit property and secure it and then
get and get bids from contractors to

760
01:39:03,330 --> 01:39:08,090
pull in the West and southern roll

761
01:39:08,300 --> 01:39:15,000
that's a motion under as you know if
that is that good on that Richard or not

762
01:39:13,560 --> 01:39:19,860
one of the dolt that Bush who is also
doing this have the authority to do that

763
01:39:17,190 --> 01:39:24,449
to take down in or action
okay that's not what I'm asking all I'm

764
01:39:22,290 --> 01:39:30,510
asking for the ability to secure the
property with a fence that's all I'm

765
01:39:27,300 --> 01:39:35,820
asking in the in the court order the
other part is just getting bids so we

766
01:39:33,600 --> 01:39:40,110
know what it's going to cost to pull in
those walls that's right after their

767
01:39:37,770 --> 01:39:46,140
master nutritive reported taking them
around the western side thank you okay

768
01:39:43,830 --> 01:39:53,550
all right so Joyce do we need two
different motions is that what you're

769
01:39:48,540 --> 01:39:59,050
requesting I'm asking if we I don't see
why you need two different

770
01:39:55,420 --> 01:40:10,300
Richard made two different ones I want
to get bids and the other two have you

771
01:40:02,710 --> 01:40:16,090
proceed all right okay yeah my motion if
we get a second we can move on to

772
01:40:13,440 --> 01:40:24,070
complicate things a little bit more Mary
you just mentioned that most at camp you

773
01:40:22,540 --> 01:40:28,750
probably be there another 100 years
that's that way down the line we can

774
01:40:26,560 --> 01:40:35,740
look at but right now we're worried
about that west wall okay I get a copy

775
01:40:31,570 --> 01:40:40,060
secure all right thank you all right
thank you

776
01:40:38,080 --> 01:40:45,070
it's no wonder that big stood for so
long is anybody second in this thing you

777
01:40:42,430 --> 01:40:58,600
Barbara whatever postion of a
firefighter Hey okay next one is the

778
01:40:55,860 --> 01:41:06,370
discussion and approval request by the
Union Pacific terrible replacement of

779
01:41:01,630 --> 01:41:12,880
the overpass pattern 149 I don't why
would they be asking a city for that one

780
01:41:09,040 --> 01:41:16,920
that's a state route well they're in
order for the road to do it they have to

781
01:41:15,430 --> 01:41:23,050
get
Commission filed an action by Commerce

782
01:41:20,980 --> 01:41:28,349
Commission to get that permission since
it is within city limits they have the

783
01:41:26,080 --> 01:41:28,349
city

784
01:41:29,280 --> 01:41:44,640
we've got some information from them it
warms us that they would anticipate

785
01:41:39,540 --> 01:41:48,210
getting June first thing that'll be
about two and a half month project

786
01:41:46,170 --> 01:41:56,660
they're looking to complete please
replacement over of the overpass during

787
01:41:52,890 --> 01:41:56,660
that two and a half month period thing

788
01:41:57,490 --> 01:42:04,910
traffic will continue to be a book pass
from one lane except for a three-day

789
01:42:02,840 --> 01:42:10,220
period in which that's when they
actually do the replacement company

790
01:42:06,710 --> 01:42:34,850
overcast for every day period closed
down during that time they are saying

791
01:42:32,480 --> 01:42:41,000
that it goes through an administrative
wall for statements to learn there's an

792
01:42:37,850 --> 01:42:45,620
administrative law judges on Illinois
Commerce Commission what we are looking

793
01:42:43,370 --> 01:42:52,490
to do in our conversations with them is
to put together an agreed order or set

794
01:42:49,070 --> 01:42:56,770
order that the administrative law judge
can been approved and signed off on Wow

795
01:42:58,020 --> 01:43:06,310
so the city's involved because these
names as a party of is proceeding for

796
01:43:04,060 --> 01:43:10,330
them build with Commerce Commission's
now we're involved because it is

797
01:43:08,139 --> 01:43:14,170
something that's within the city's
jurisdiction let me ask you this risen

798
01:43:12,489 --> 01:43:21,730
every time we go on in the rhythm they
charge us $50,000 the railroad is not

799
01:43:18,540 --> 01:43:27,489
located this project railroads covering
the city should not be out anything for

800
01:43:23,620 --> 01:43:35,880
this project but can we charge it I
charge us for everything we ever do all

801
01:43:29,800 --> 01:43:41,920
of them I just wondered I don't think
okay just send them a bill okay all

802
01:43:39,820 --> 01:43:48,219
right I get that business fast right now
what we would look to see if you want to

803
01:43:44,530 --> 01:43:52,719
pass we have a bonus order allowing this
be done we look for the word apply life

804
01:43:50,679 --> 01:44:00,880
to be content order by everybody in the
hall okay for those three days when it's

805
01:43:56,830 --> 01:44:06,820
completely shut down it's going to put
some of our residents and a fire hazard

806
01:44:03,760 --> 01:44:10,570
as a firefighter quickie decking is
they're going to have to go all the way

807
01:44:07,750 --> 01:44:14,290
out get to Westwood Hill options like
much silage market bro yeah anyway it's

808
01:44:12,670 --> 01:44:19,989
a place on the wreck right there that
can't go on an overpass anymore they're

809
01:44:17,050 --> 01:44:26,139
going to go out and round I'm you know I
just I think they'll be better than a

810
01:44:22,360 --> 01:44:31,600
train followed on the ruler over time oh
so pretty okay what doesn't work out

811
01:44:28,780 --> 01:44:39,210
emotion is like emotion too you can make
a motion to that authorizes you proceed

812
01:44:34,000 --> 01:44:45,190
with our communication see finalizar
okay I'll make that motion I'll second

813
01:44:42,880 --> 01:44:49,450
all right most of the second I would say
I said bounce a tie I opposed motion

814
01:44:48,640 --> 01:44:56,620
carries
okay many Fed would comment on probably

815
01:44:52,810 --> 01:44:59,980
concluded here and then come back over
to you now

816
01:44:57,430 --> 01:45:04,660
okay Public Works is where we go and
that's chaired by mr. bill Pierson built

817
01:45:02,020 --> 01:45:08,560
somewhere I had this okay the first one
here is there go over this position with

818
01:45:06,700 --> 01:45:17,050
the question the Park District to assist
removing wood chips and this is on the I

819
01:45:11,410 --> 01:45:22,510
suppose eighth Street nut North the
North Park at or eight streetlights

820
01:45:18,640 --> 01:45:27,730
reasoning tonight Street they want they
want to pile wood chips in the street

821
01:45:25,570 --> 01:45:32,170
and probably put a barricade around it
so they can move them onto the park into

822
01:45:30,040 --> 01:45:37,960
the park the second part of it is
because he will talk to you about this

823
01:45:34,090 --> 01:45:45,570
Derek they want to use our big whatever
that thing is we got from the state or

824
01:45:40,780 --> 01:45:45,570
the or the air force removal with

825
01:45:50,170 --> 01:45:53,170
operation

826
01:46:02,630 --> 01:46:05,630
okay

827
01:46:06,689 --> 01:46:13,809
well their issue as their tractor is
small and they said it'll take us eight

828
01:46:12,429 --> 01:46:18,489
hours because they're wanting to just
move those wood chips up there they're

829
01:46:16,209 --> 01:46:22,329
going to be spread around the base and I
guess the playground equipment and stuff

830
01:46:20,289 --> 01:46:27,669
that they're putting in update sometimes
they can't get it back to drop it in and

831
01:46:25,419 --> 01:46:33,309
dump them inside the park in there if
there was any other way right there you

832
01:46:30,519 --> 01:46:37,209
can back right up by that fence can't
you dance there's an alley this heart

833
01:46:35,559 --> 01:46:49,269
sets here and there's alleyway right
there beside it if that's still usable

834
01:46:39,219 --> 01:46:53,109
alleyway we used to be able to I said we
do that one not too keen would iterate

835
01:46:50,649 --> 01:47:00,869
what they want is to put the chips in
the street and move them into the park

836
01:46:54,809 --> 01:47:06,209
with our health I suppose with you oh
it's not going to be for a couple of

837
01:47:02,949 --> 01:47:11,439
months out of having a pity date on here
so if there's any interested Anita

838
01:47:09,219 --> 01:47:19,989
motion in a second I like the motion
okay good those in favor aye

839
01:47:15,119 --> 01:47:23,679
neighs that's fast the next one I have
is a request for the final payment for

840
01:47:21,849 --> 01:47:27,309
Midwest petroleum with that execrating
and I think that is on the lift station

841
01:47:25,179 --> 01:47:33,760
Jim is that correct community that's I
thought I had the amount here at all was

842
01:47:31,510 --> 01:47:36,859
it like $15,000 or something done
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843
01:47:38,690 --> 01:47:51,150
tomorrow 39 o 95 as it is okay then we
need to be holding a percentage a red

844
01:47:47,640 --> 01:47:56,790
bag they've been done we're finished
it's going down the river to you okay so

845
01:47:54,930 --> 01:48:01,130
relatable okay move on
Peter second second okay those in favor

846
01:47:59,970 --> 01:48:08,040
aye
days that's past you go to want to

847
01:48:05,490 --> 01:48:14,340
comment all that one probably call it my
robot thing okay that's it alright that

848
01:48:11,640 --> 01:48:24,300
taste stuff more the Popol we're about
that yeah so what these figures of this

849
01:48:20,540 --> 01:48:30,360
movie the public safety under its old
business we have one item or request for

850
01:48:27,870 --> 01:48:35,130
street lighting on shoemaker Drive Omega
motion we're gonna do that

851
01:48:31,860 --> 01:48:42,150
well I'd we don't necessarily have to
make lotions in the negative I would

852
01:48:38,670 --> 01:48:45,780
just suggest we don't conclude this on
the agenda for the next meeting

853
01:48:43,620 --> 01:48:50,370
I've driven that several times and it's
really really well with its what a lot

854
01:48:48,540 --> 01:48:53,060
of us believe enough we can have its own
ever again

855
01:48:55,830 --> 01:49:05,430
areas very dark down there people
walking the streets at night and then

856
01:49:02,790 --> 01:49:14,190
you get that long strips where the house
dark and it's very well bit right there

857
01:49:07,950 --> 01:49:16,700
and then it gets dark I can't see how
many people

858
01:49:20,350 --> 01:49:35,600
right at the corner of life edit e esha
maker almost get a guy you know all

859
01:49:26,630 --> 01:49:44,120
black I'll Drive I'll Drive that Street
probably six night the rule to going out

860
01:49:40,820 --> 01:49:48,610
that's the way I go out to go up that
side of town that went down on Lendl

861
01:49:49,330 --> 01:49:57,530
streetlight I'm gonna keep them out of
Center in the street that's what long

862
01:49:54,800 --> 01:50:14,300
people walk down the center down there's
no exact it it's really it's really bad

863
01:50:10,880 --> 01:50:22,480
is there dessert in here
is there an existing Pole I wonder where

864
01:50:17,239 --> 01:50:28,040
we could put something up where the
issue is I mean that's the question I

865
01:50:26,060 --> 01:50:37,900
guess there's cold air do we have a
light and scary light on the Gabel home

866
01:50:31,760 --> 01:50:37,900
Mary okay members out there

867
01:50:41,280 --> 01:50:52,930
there's the light right by the holding
area I mean the only dark spot is from

868
01:50:45,510 --> 01:50:57,400
there well you got a very short stretch
where the would go do you get to do

869
01:50:54,430 --> 01:51:02,740
apartment I guess you know there I put
level of a split line here well yet wait

870
01:51:00,610 --> 01:51:14,680
we got places we could put streetlights
all so I was inclined to just forget

871
01:51:11,410 --> 01:51:18,370
about it but obviously you've got an
investment in your community and you

872
01:51:16,510 --> 01:51:24,880
know put yourself out there from City
Council with a part of that you join us

873
01:51:20,230 --> 01:51:30,700
ooh so with your expression to that it
makes me wonder if we ought not research

874
01:51:27,850 --> 01:51:35,920
and see if there is an existing hole or
something could be attached because

875
01:51:33,640 --> 01:51:41,710
having a pole structured everything put
up is more expense that I think the

876
01:51:39,060 --> 01:51:44,550
problem merits if there any power pole
dancing there

877
01:51:52,070 --> 01:52:03,870
sure but I don't even know if it's
lighting and then also about half of all

878
01:51:58,500 --> 01:52:08,300
people are pushing strawberries all so I
don't know over

879
01:52:14,930 --> 01:52:21,980
all right well you change my mind I said
we shouldn't put it leave it on the

880
01:52:19,430 --> 01:52:25,340
agenda I say we ought to leave it on
there and then see if we find a place to

881
01:52:23,780 --> 01:52:31,370
attach it's affordable
I can't remember any pose being down

882
01:52:27,680 --> 01:52:35,690
clean there from you Mike
I don't think there's anything I put you

883
01:52:33,770 --> 01:52:38,750
down through that area all right well
let's just confirm that and then if

884
01:52:37,460 --> 01:52:44,060
there is a thin wool
we'll carry this over gift set gets

885
01:52:41,570 --> 01:52:48,380
edip.okur I don't I don't know how you
guys get electrical well you're right

886
01:52:46,160 --> 01:52:54,650
minutes I'd rather stand there maybe not
lash Leifer that's on Mike and grin yeah

887
01:52:50,510 --> 01:53:02,120
yeah okay where we yeah
we're under Public Safety and we have no

888
01:52:58,220 --> 01:53:08,690
other new business I don't believe we
have any other public comment concerning

889
01:53:03,890 --> 01:53:19,490
the items under public safety all right
that sell for public safety takes us to

890
01:53:10,910 --> 01:53:26,960
personnel mr. barbecue does anyone have
anything that I've missed that need to

891
01:53:22,130 --> 01:53:35,300
be on here negotiations with the FOP
continue and we're looking forward to

892
01:53:31,160 --> 01:53:38,440
getting noses all sometime soon is there
any public comment on personnel

893
01:53:39,260 --> 01:53:48,360
all right on the mayor support I have an
item here appointment of Bruce Davis to

894
01:53:44,670 --> 01:53:53,730
the plan commission am I good most have
a motion in a second all in favor

895
01:53:49,890 --> 01:53:57,840
signify by saying aye opposed motion
carries

896
01:53:54,750 --> 01:54:02,360
and now we need to go into an executive
session to discuss possible litigation

897
01:54:04,040 --> 01:54:10,250
otherwise excited without that all in
favor

898
01:54:20,150 --> 01:54:24,350
the Southside south