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Good evening, everyone. Well, let's get this meeting started. Let's call the order of the September 1st regular city council meeting. Madam State clerk, can you please call roll?

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Yes, I'm here. Councilmember de Forrest. Here. Councilmember Stone. Here. Council Mayor pro tem holiday. Here. Mayor LaValle. Here. Let the record reflect that all members are present. Thank you very much. I've asked Councilwoman de Forrest to lead us in the pleasure of allegiance. And if you can, please remain standing for the invocation led by Pastor Cameron C.

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from the Calvary Marietta Church.

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Thank you, Mayor, would everybody stand

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and place their right hand over their heart?

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Ready, begin.

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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America

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and to the Republic for which it stands,

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one nation under God, indivisible,

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with liberty and justice for all.

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I know we do.

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All right.

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Well, thank you, everyone.

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Let me, let me pray for us today.

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Father God, we just thank you for meetings like these, Lord, and for the opportunity to

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be heard.

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I ask that you would lead this meeting this time together and these leaders with wisdom

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and with grace.

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Lord, I pray that voices would be heard and truth would be revealed and that God, you would

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lead this time that we get to have together.

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Thank you for the opportunity to come together for there to be unity and peace and love.

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and we pray for those things to resound in here and Lord we do trust in you as

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the wall says there and God we trust and so we trust that you will be in this

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meeting today and so thank you Lord go before us we pray this in your name amen

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okay next up we have a press presentation I think from the library who do we

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have from the library oh yeah and a teen advisory council right all right

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So good afternoon to both city council and members of our community. I'm Christine Bainey, the teen services librarian. Y'all have seen me a couple times up here now. And I'm here with a few members of my teen advisory council. During June's city council meeting, we promoted our summer reading challenge and we hope that it inspired you to stop in and experience some of the library joy with us. But today we're here to share our library report.

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including stories and numbers from the summer's activities, but we'd like to start with a brief video presentation.

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Thank you and I invite up our first team advisory council member.

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While activities at the library look a little different this year because of our construction on the new children's area,

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our plan to seed read summer reading program still brought in crowds.

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We had 2,408 unique participants for this year's challenge.

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1,773 participants were 12 or younger, 228 between the ages of 13 and 18 and 407 adults.

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Teams pledged to read 1,811 books nearly meeting their goal, logging 1,085.

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Adults pledged to read 2,580 books, but it looks like life got in the way

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and folks only submitted 1,190 reviews that is still an average of three books per person

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over just six, just a six week time period.

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Keep in mind the average person will only read two books a year.

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It's always fun to share those big numbers, but where we really see the biggest impact is

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during our programs, despite having less space to work with, the library still hosted 72

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in-person programs reaching over 2,000 attendees.

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While we could break it down, like we did the other numbers, we think the pictures from the video give a better idea from the impact these programs make to our community.

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We loved reading, creating, playing, and growing with everyone this summer.

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Finally, we want to share the impact of lunch at the library.

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This grant funded community partnerships served 67,700 meals to kids 18 and under, our

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farm to summer component incorporated hands-on activities that connected youth to gardening,

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pollinators, agriculture and healthy eating.

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participants learned kids' safe cutting skills.

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These activities encouraged healthy eating, upholding practical skills, and learning about

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how food moves from the farm to our tables.

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So, before we wrap up this presentation, I wanted to share a metric that wasn't in the

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video.

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So, behind the scenes, we had amazing staff members and volunteers that created the

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memories for our community.

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And, again, being the Teen Services Librarian, I have to brag about my teens.

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So, this summer, they collectively volunteered for 808 hours.

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This included running two challenge sign-up slash prize tables and assisting staff during programs.

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Okay, my bragging is done.

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Thank you so much for giving myself and the Teen Advisory Council the chance to share our library updates.

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We open the floor if there's any questions and then we would love to get a photo with y'all.

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I don't think we have any questions, but thank you very much for that update and we're going to come down.

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Thank you.

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Okay, moving on to the approval of the agenda, Madam Speaker, there are any changes to the

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posted agenda?

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I'm seeing that, Mr. Mayor.

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Thank you.

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And do a roll call or a vote to approve the agenda, please motion in a second.

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I'm motioned by Mayor President Holliday and a second by Councilman DeForest, who's vote?

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Motion carries unanimously, 5-0.

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Thank you very much.

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Moving right along to the Justin Clifton City Manager update, what do you got Justin?

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Thank you very much, Mr. Mayor.

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Have a few items for you this evening.

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And first, you probably noticed when you took a seat, this shiny new copy of the

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2026-2030 strategic plan from our fire department.

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So I'd like to invite up our fire chief Bernie Maloy and our battalion chief Eric Ackerman who are going to walk you through and

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give you some of the highlights of the strategic plan.

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Good

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evening, Mayor LaBalle of Council and members of our public that are here today.

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I'm honored to be able to present to you our 2026 to 2030 strategic plan.

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I'm Bernie Maloy, I'm the fire chief for the city of myrietta and I'm proud to have with me today Eric Ackerman.

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Battalion chief for the city of myrietta are accreditation manager.

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who manages all things accreditation in our department and the person that took on the responsibilities

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of putting together our strategic plan and guiding through this process. We update our strategic plan

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generally every five years in the city of myriata and that's because for the entire time myriata has

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been a city it has been growing and changing and we want to make sure that we have a fire department

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that is aligning with the city as it changes around us. So the past strategic plan focused on a lot

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lot of things that we've really accomplished well over the past five years.

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We wanted to improve our ISO rated.

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We wanted to improve community risk reduction in our city.

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We wanted to improve staffing, and we've done that through our medical patrol programs.

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We wanted to improve our water supply.

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We've done that through our tactical water tender program.

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And we wanted to improve firefighter recruitment, and we're doing four days of interviews right

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now for firefighters because this is a place that people want to be,

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So, when we looked at this year and we said, what do we need to look at for strategic planning?

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What are those long-term goals that the city has?

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We really have to look backwards a little bit and see the changes that we've had.

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Since our last strategic plan, you will see a chart there that shows exponential call growth in this city.

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We went from having about 10,000 calls and when we did our last strategic plan,

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June 14,000 calls this last year.

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That's a 35, excuse me, 36% increase in that five year period.

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So we're running a third more calls than we were just five years ago.

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Last year alone, we had a 12.45% call increase.

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This shows us a city that's growing around us.

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We want to make sure that we're building a fire department to meet these demands.

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And using data analysis, seeing the population that's changing around us.

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the way the fire department is changing, excuse me, the way that the buildings are changing around our fire department,

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we want to make sure that we're building fire department to match the growing high-rise footprint of our city that's coming.

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So when we looked at this, we said we need to take a look at all facets of our city, not just the fire department.

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We need to involve stakeholders from every reach of the city, the people involved in city government,

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the people involved in the city management team, the people that run our city every single day.

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And then the other stakeholders, utilities, and different members of our community so we reach

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We shout out to all of them to be a part of the strategic planning process. At this point, I'm going to turn it over to battalion chief Eric Akman to talk to you a little bit about this long process that took us several months and how we put it together. All right. So as chief mentioned, one of the goals we had when we set out on this is to have it be a community driven strategic plan. We wanted to start with our stakeholders in the community and we did that by last December having an external stakeholder session.

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We had members from other departments within the city, the business community, health

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care schools, just as broad of a brush as we could go for the community and at the end

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of this presentation, we'll acknowledge everyone who assisted us to get to this point.

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In that session, we got a picture of where the community saw us as far as the services

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we provided and where they wanted to see us go.

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We took that information and we had an internal stakeholder session.

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And again, we wanted to get a good representation.

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So this was not just a bunch of chiefs sitting in a room.

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We started, or we had a representation from every level

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within our organization, from firefighter to fire chief,

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fire prevention, emergency management, EMS training.

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We wanted to get everyone's perspective.

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We did a SWAT analysis so we could say,

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what do we do well, what can we do better,

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where are the gaps, how do we close those?

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And from that, we came up with seven strategic initiatives,

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Just the broad categories with specific goals underneath each of those so I'm going to cover the initiatives now

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And they're all up here. We'll cover them further in slides

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But we wanted to keep it in manageable amounts so in the fire service the spanner control is 3 to 7 anything passed

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That it's hard to maintain control so we wanted to try and boil it down to that

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And this is what we landed on so the first initiative has to do with alignment and readiness

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This means with our infrastructure, our resources that we have, how do we ensure that not only

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are they aligned for the myriad of yesterday and today but aligned for the myriad of tomorrow?

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And the goal is developed or for that.

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This technology goes, I don't think it shocks anyone to say technology is moving at a break next

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speed. So we wanted to make sure that we are evaluating the technology we have in place versus the

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the technology that's available out there to help us deliver the best and most effective

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services to our citizens.

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And then we move on to the next two, a really geared towards the workforce here in Marietta.

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We wanted to make sure, I don't think it's, again, any surprise to say that the fire services

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and inherently risky and dangerous professions, so we want to make sure that our employees are

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healthy and well as they spend an entire career providing these services to the citizens

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of Marietta.

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So the goal is here are aimed at longevity and wellness for our personnel and then the workforce as chief mentioned

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We're doing recruitment right now

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What can we do to make sure that we are recruiting retaining and

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And enabling our personnel to deliver the services needed

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proactive approach to what we provide to the citizens so obviously when you think of the fire department most people think of the reactionary efforts

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we take, put out fires, respond to medical emergencies, but we want to make sure that we're proactively

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understanding and mitigating the risks in our community. So, equipping and focusing on our

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community risk reduction is important for our fire prevention, for understanding the specific risks

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and incidents that are occurring within our community. And then it's not just our personnel.

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We also want to equip the public with the information that we gather and the information they need

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to reduce the risks in their own households and in their own families.

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And our final strategic initiative is related to training.

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So as much as we want to be proactive, we'll never be so proactive that no one will have an emergency.

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And we have to make sure that our personnel are equipped and trained and ready to respond effectively to whatever emergency is needed by our citizens.

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And that's what those are our seven strategic initiatives.

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What was really important to us in the fire department is that we didn't make a plan that sat on the shelf and got dusty, and we thought one of the best ways to make that so it didn't happen was to make it a public plan, so if you see the QR code up there, this is the first time the public will be able to see it, but this is our strategic plan, anybody that wants to scan that can get access to our public plan.

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Having the public, this is as much the public's plan as our Fire Department's plan.

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We're here to serve the public and we want to meet their needs.

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So we want them to have this document so they can see the work we owe them.

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Another way that we thought we could keep this plan going is to assign lead positions to it.

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So each one of these strategic, seven strategic initiatives that we have has an owner within our organization.

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That owner does more than just check on it, they're the champion for that cause.

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So that owner is going to take that cause and make sure that every decision we make.

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We have an annual work plan meeting where we put together our whole fire department and through our work plan that's assigned as part of the strategic plan, that's our document on our side that we see, we do regular check-ups and we say are these strategic initiatives being met and are we aligning our operations with them. And then last, we're fortunate enough in our city to have great data analysis. We have a data analyst on staff. And we make sure that we have

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As we see these trend changes that we're able to be fluid enough that we can address the changes in the data that we're seeing as it comes to our community.

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We do want to acknowledge all of the people that took part in the strategic plan and I'm not going to read the list. It's actually another slide as well.

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But we want to show that this matters, involvement matters.

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We put out on our social media, we put out through our web page, and we ask for city involvement, and we get a lot of the same people that are invested in this community.

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We want the public to know that we provide opportunities for their voices to be heard, be heard like these external stakeholders.

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I can go down that external stakeholder list and say that many of those people have graduated.

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are myriad of fire citizens, fire academy, just to let everyone know that we have the concrete

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completed. That is coming back to our training center. So be on the lookout for that coming

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soon. And then we have our internal stakeholders and staff and everybody that participated in

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that as well. So those will be in the strategic plan, if anyone wants to read that very full

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list of people. And we thank all of them for their participation in this. And to end, I just

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want to say that we assure you, we assure the city that this is a dynamic ongoing plan.

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And this guides us just like the strategic initiatives for the city council.

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These are the strategic initiatives for our fire department that we're going to take forward in every single decision that we make as an organization to better serve our community.

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So with that, we will end, again, the QR code, if anyone wants to scan the QR code, you can get a copy of our strategic plan.

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It's also available on our website.

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And I am available for any questions.

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questions. Thank you, gentlemen. That presentation was straight fire.

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All right. Well, wake up. It's only four guys. Any questions from my colleagues or this

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at least of the forest? Thank you. Mayor, I just have a question. When you look at some

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of the statistics for our medical responses versus fire responses, and I know that you probably

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took this into account, but just sitting up here as a council member thinking of the future

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planning and where we need to go with that is more medic patrols, I know they're faster

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to the scene and is that something that you have put in this plan?

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We don't prescriptively spell out what units we need where in the plan.

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What we do is identify that we need to continually monitor our data and how we measure that is something

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called unit hour utilization of our resources.

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So we currently have two medic patrols in the city.

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they're in the two busiest fire stations that we have in the city, and they absorb medical

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aids all day long. So with the lower-acurity medical aids, our medical patrols can get out and

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handle those without sending another apparatus, be it a truck company or an engine company to assist

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them, or we can send both a, you know, on higher-acurity levels, we can send a medical patrol

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and a fire engine as opposed to two fire engines. So medical patrols are a huge part of our success

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Yes, and addressing that growing call demand, we're monitoring it.

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I mean, I think everyone here understands the footprint of the West Side is really changing.

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And we're closely monitoring that, and we're certainly seeing the impacted growth on the West Side and

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what it's doing to our call volume.

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And we will see where we get to a point where we have an overuse of our unit hour utilization of the West Side resources and

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where we need to add additional medical controls when they're needed.

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Thank you for elaborating. I'm not greatly appreciate it. Thank you guys for being here.

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A great amazing strategic report for our city. So thank you. Thank you, Mayor.

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Thank you. Councilman Stone. Thank you, Mayor Lavelle. Chief, I believe that our city manager

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may have had a brief conversation with you about an idea of a motorcycle medic, especially as

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traffic congestion continues in the city of Marietta. But I'll be talking about that later in my

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governing body announcements.

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What is your take on that?

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We have, it's one of the things we're under review.

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Currently we have a, we have a medic patrol

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that we staff onto a fast response vehicle,

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a rims vehicle when we have any city events.

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So that's a side by side where we can carry

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all of our medic equipment.

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We don't presently have any motorcycles in our fleet.

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That would be one paramedic with limited resources.

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As we see growing traffic,

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we have to trend that. One of the things that we do a monthly analysis that goes out is publicly available

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of our response times, and certainly traffic has an impact on it.

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Our response times. So right now we're addressing that through strategic placement of medic patrols that are able to navigate traffic quicker than a truck company per se. But nothing is out of the question. We have to look and that's part of using the data analysis that we're doing, the technologies that are coming from the future and making sure those align to the needs of the public. So certainly worth having the conversation about that.

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I know that it's been successful in some high population cities, and again, it could be a way to mitigate our response time.

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So thank you for addressing that, and thank you for a great presentation to both of you.

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Thank you, and Mayor Lebel cannot drive the motorcycle.

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I just said I'm the first one to apply with a job.

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I know, I just had to learn how to do IVs, I think.

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Thank you both for the presentation, and thank you for having such great oversight of our city and grow as we grow.

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You guys are obviously right on top of it, growing with our city and making sure we have the best resources possible from our fire department.

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So thank you.

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Okay, thank you, Mr. Mayor.

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Next, we want to talk to Council a little bit about, we've had some conversations, public comment and other conversations about Jefferson widening project.

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We've had some public comments in particular at recent meetings, and just want to make sure that council in the community has some factual information and understand where we're at.

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So I have a slide deck here that was put together with a lot of help and support from our director of Public Works and Engineering.

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It's about mailing and city engineer Jeff Hitch there also here to answer some technical questions if we have them.

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But if we can get that slide going, I want to orient you first to what we're talking about.

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I think most of you understand, but we've got a couple images on the next slide.

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Just help you, Orient, that we're talking about Jefferson, generally north of Nutmeg.

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And as you know, it continues on for a period at full width, and then the road narrows,

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and the road discontinues before we basically cross the boundary of the city of Mirrietta and

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enter into Wildemar.

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Can I go here?

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Or do I click or?

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Thank you.

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So, if you look at the image in the left, you'll see the handout version of that.

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You'll see kind of in the very top corner, if it's a little difficult to see, but you

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can see the connection of Jefferson to Palomar.

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That's actually under construction currently.

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So, some of that roadway now exists and some has yet to be paved, but this is really what's

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going to happen when the development in Wildermar finishes.

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And then on the bottom right-hand corner, you see a little bit of the zoomed-in version

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where you can see a wider Jefferson avenue in the bottom right-hand corner and in the top left-hand corner,

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but in between you can see where that road narrows. And so we've seen that in various areas of

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the city before. So just generally want to orient you that when we've had public comments or people

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kind of inquiring discussion on social media for the widening of Jefferson Avenue, this is the area

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that we're talking about.

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So a little bit of history here before the incorporation of Wildermar Riverside

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county had development plans to connect Palomar to Jefferson much in the way that we see currently

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with this new project. However, July 1st, 2020, Wilhelm R. Incorporated. So it kind of transitioned.

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As that was happening, the city of myriadta was considering an added a CIP project,

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a wider Jefferson and actually in 2009 and 10, started to explore the idea was doing geotechnical

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analysis and some preliminary design, hadn't really engaged fully in property acquisition. But

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But what's in earnest preparing so that if something happened on the

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Wildemar side, that could be paired up with improvements on the Mirrietta side.

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In 2011, however, Wildemar, really just a few years after incorporation decided,

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it really didn't have the money to widen that street as a public works project.

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And so put it on the shelf and Mirrietta ended up doing the same.

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where that connection is being made and then really it was approved in 17 but construction started pretty recently in the last 12 months of the roadway realignment happened just as of August and right now it's preliminary as some of that construction is still taking place.

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In 2025, Philip O'Reilly initiated some conversations with city staff, indicating that he was interested to have the city purchase some of the property.

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There are four property owners in that area that would need, the city would need property to complete the full widening, but his property is one of those.

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And he mentioned that in the context of broader development interests.

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It discussed everything from billboards to particular visions to develop the property.

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But I believe indicated that perhaps proceeds from the sale of the property could be used for that private development.

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One of the things we focus on early on in those conversations is there's really two major ways that roadways get.

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We've improved and expanded in the city. Mostly, it happens through private development. So in fact, that's what we're seeing in Wildermark. Wildermark, one point said, maybe, or the county said, we'll extend that road. Then they said, you know what, we're better off not putting this burden on the taxpayers, but rather to wait for private development. And here, that private development comes, and now they're paying for that improvement, rather than the taxpayer. So, same thing happened if you look at Washington, just north of not Megan, Osooro, the park, a multi-family development there.

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there for a while, that was one lane instead of two, and it created a little bit of congestion,

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but not to the point where it needed to become a public works project.

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Again, that would have been paid for by tax dollars instead, waited for private development

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to come, add the extra lane, and now you have two through lanes going north on Washington,

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past Nomega and those Oro.

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So the distinction there was, in an effort to say, if there's private development interest,

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that's usually the place where the city says we don't want the taxpayers to pay for that.

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We want the private development to pay for it.

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We see that all over the city, new projects coming in and widening roads.

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If rather you would wait for the taxpayer to fund it because it's a public priority for some reason.

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Public safety being number one, major development or access to medical areas like we see with the Keller Road interchange number two.

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And then maybe beyond that, just to alleviate congestion and

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to create more convenient ways of getting around the city, then we put that into a prioritization process.

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So, that's really what we've done as we looked in 2026 to take our capital improvements plan that had a lot of projects in it and turn it into more of a prioritized list.

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This project has been and will continue to be on that list.

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So, for purposes of staff consideration, it was added to the mid-level of tier one.

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So, that's a three-tiered framework much like our other administrative priorities.

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So the good news is tier one means it's fairly important,

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more important than the things on tiers two and three.

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But it's a medium priority because the high priority within that tier includes projects like Keller Road,

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like the Hot Springs widening project.

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We have the Madison corridor widening project, the Hayes Avenue Bridge that was an emergency repair,

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There are a number of other projects that are just also very important, if not more important to complete first.

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So, again, the status today is really not changed, I know some of the information that's circulated online and from public comments suggests that it was either removed from prioritization or at some point it was elevated and then it was kind of moved down the list, I don't think that's accurate.

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We went from having a general plan that calls us out in a circulation element to a capital improvements plan that calls it out to be done at some point to a more prioritized version of that list that places it in the appropriate rank order.

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So current status is if we're waiting for this to become a public priority and for the city's taxpayers to fund it, it waits until it comes up in the appropriate priority.

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If it's driven by development interests primarily, or first, that's when we default to asking the private development to pay for the improvements.

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So it's still planned in every way that it's been planned, just waiting for that prioritization, or for the private development interest to come forward with a development in which case it would be a condition of approval of that development.

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So that's the summary, kind of where we're at today, and again, I can answer questions, or our engineering team is also here if you have any questions.

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Just, for context, it seems like we are real tomorrow, we're waiting for if-and-when private

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development comes in to build that road because there is no actual need from the city's perspective

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at this current state. That's exactly right. And that's the primary way these roadways are

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developed. On occasion, you might have an area that's already developed. Maybe it's a myriad hot

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springs, and you need to widen the road for safety reasons or other reasons where it makes sense

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for the public priority to spend the public resources. But in the cases where that's not necessary,

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And we don't see the kind of congestion even, let alone the public safety demand to make that connection now.

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The development happening in Wildomar will make the connection.

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It will just have some places where the road narrows exactly like Washington,

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narrowed north of Nutt, Meg, until the park development.

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So that's typical.

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If something changed where that became a more urgent need,

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then it could accelerate the timeline.

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But again, you heard some of those other projects that people have also been waiting a long time to see some improvements in some of those other areas of our city.

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A long time with a hospital or two hospitals that have been there for, you know, no one is 15 years, so Keller Road, yeah, Keller Road's 20-year discussion and we're just now getting around to put in a shovel in the dirt.

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That's right. These major infrastructure projects, given environmental review, property acquisition, design, cost that being significant tend to have a long lead time.

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The more complicated ones like myriad of hot springs and Keller could be multiple decades,

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the simpler ones don't take as long.

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But there's still very involved, and so that's why that prioritization is important. If we're doing all those things simultaneously, we'd be even slower. And we want to make sure those most important projects get done. This one's important. It falls in kind of the appropriate order of things. And again, to emphasize, nothing's changed there. It hasn't moved around. It just went from one project among many in the capital improvements plan to the same list with a little more prioritization. Hopefully that brings some clarity.

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But also, the discussions happened over the last 12 months.

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It's more likely that construction is going to happen over a number of years.

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Planning, property acquisition, design, construction may not begin for a number of years,

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and then would take a number more to complete.

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So it's probably not measured in months, but years.

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Okay, well, I appreciate the context, and this would be a good sound by a five-minute clip to hang on to.

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So, yeah, those are all comments, I think, or all of them.

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And then if there are no questions about that, we'd like to wrap up, as we always do,

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wrap up with a little bit about what's going on, Myriadta, with our public information officer,

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Builder Sam.

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Good afternoon, Honourable Mayor and City Council. Good to see you all.

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All right, I feel like I'm a broken record. I'm always telling you how much there is going on,

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Myriadta, but there really is a lot going on. As we all know, we have the state of the city coming up.

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up. Just look at that picture up there. Beautiful. Do we have? Do we have some?

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Okay, you can cover it. We are excited for the State of the City on September 30th right

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here at Town Square Park and Amphitheater, where Mayor Lavell will present to us the State

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of the City with some help from some friends. So that will be great. We're doing this of course

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in partnership with, well, we have to switch out this logo because it's no longer the myriad

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of a little more chamber of commerce. It is the chamber of Southwest Riverside County.

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So there are partners in this event and if you would like to attend the VIP reception

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before the address, it is at 5.30 pm and you can buy tickets at the chamber website.

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Other upcoming events that we have are the September 11th Tribute Ceremony. It is the 25th

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anniversary this year and we invite you to join us at Town Square Park on Friday, September 11th,

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at 5.30 p.m. We also have our very popular bulky item drop off and shutting event. This time

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because it is so popular and so busy, we are splitting it into two. So at the back parking lot

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here at City Hall, we're doing the bulky item drop off and at the senior center parking lot, we're doing

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the shutting of documents. So bring yourself and get rid of it. We're also hosting another

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citizen's academy right here at City Hall. It consists of seven sessions that are free for

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the public to participate in, and you can apply by September 8th. If you see the link up there,

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it's bit.ly-mcitizen. You can apply and learn all about what goes into running

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the city. So we would love to see you here. It's on every Thursday, starting on the 20,

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where is the date? It's 17th, September 17th. So it's starting on September 17th every Thursday

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for seven weeks. So we would love to see you there. And if you are quick enough, you might just

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to be able to get the September more myriad when we send it out this evening because it

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goes out every first of the month. So sign up right now and you'll receive our monthly

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newsletters and our magazine, the Fall Winter edition, is coming out any day now. So we're

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very excited. It looks beautiful and we're excited to see it both digitally and in person.

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Thank you guys.

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Thank you.

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And then real quickly to conclude just a reminder for our residents that we are closed Labor Day, September 7th, and observance of Labor Day.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, Mr. Justin Clifton.

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Next up, we have our governing body committee reports and announcements.

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This is the time to get to see where the five of us have been and if there's any committees that we sit on that we're going to report out on.

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Starting with Councilwoman Warren who just got back from a cruise.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, Mayor.

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First of all, I'd like to encourage our community to come out and fill the park up on 9-11 as we celebrate and remember 25 years ago.

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And I'm pretty sure everybody knows where they were on that day.

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So please come.

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Now, where are your red, white, and blue? Let's show our patriotism, let's show our support, and I really want everybody to come out. I'd love to parking lot to be totally full. That would be awesome. Also, I wanted to take a minute and wish Chief Malloy happy birthday. So congratulations, sir. And no, we're not singing. He doesn't want that. No, no, no, no, no, no. Moving on to my governing body. Announce.

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No.

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I attended the RCTC Budget Implementation Committee meeting.

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There was no report of election.

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I also chaired the Southwest Transportation now, TNOW meeting.

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I wanted to update you on the boardings from July 26, compared to July of 25, they increased

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7.7 percent, 506,000 boardings over the 25 numbers.

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Over all boardings are 6,468,15 with a 4.5% increase over the year of 2025 up to through July.

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There will be no bus service on Labor Day September 7th, service will resume as scheduled on 9.8.

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And don't forget, the youth ride free program has been extended until June of 2027.

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So 18 and under, you can ride for free.

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And that's really helping out a lot of students get to and from school, so that's been a very, very big program.

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I also attended the RTA executive board meeting on the 27th and then right after that was our regular board meeting where there was no reportable action and right after that, we did a ribbon counting for our first hydrogen bus and hydrogen fuel station.

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It is quite impressive.

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It is probably the coolest bus I have ever been on.

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So we're looking forward to that.

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You know, there are more mandates, means more money.

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Each of these buses cost in the millions.

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So it's very, it's very crazy.

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That includes those reports.

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And I want to start off my governing body announcements

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by saying congratulations to our city manager,

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Justin Clifton on being named City Manager of the Year.

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I think that's pretty cool.

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I'd like a round of applause for him, please.

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You look so distinguished on that magazine cover, you know?

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It's very nice.

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I also had the privilege and honor of attending the ribbon cutting for the Mission Hope

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Empowerment Village ribbon cutting.

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Lenar Holmes went in there and redid a lot of the structures.

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They took a two-car garage and made it into a beautiful ADU for one of their administrators

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that oversees the property 24-7.

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and it was absolutely wonderful.

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It was just so nice to see that.

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Went to the storm stadium on the 20th

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and watched our wonderful fabulous athletic mayor

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throw the ball and did a good job.

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So that was Marietta Knight, that was super fun.

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And then I had the privileges going back out there

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the next night and representing RTA,

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which I did not throw the ball so well as he did.

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So we'll just leave it at that.

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I attended the Marietta, I didn't attend this.

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I went through it.

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No, I was not.

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On the way back from the storm stadium, I did not even have a drink.

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I went through the DUI checkpoint.

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And it was amazing to see how really and truly professional our team was.

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It was also amazing to see how many people turn around illegally to avoid it,

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which I thought was something.

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And it did take a little while to get down to one lane and go through it.

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but finding people without driver's license, without insurance.

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And I don't believe there was one person under the influence,

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but we did cite a lot of people for driving without a license

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and all of that.

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So it is a way of keeping our community safe

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and I'm very proud of that.

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So thank you Chief.

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That was a well-run program that night.

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I also attended the Rose Again Foundation fundraiser

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along with Council Member Stone,

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which is a lovely evening, helping foster kids who age out.

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my ladies at the NOLs, we had a great meeting and I am proud to announce that in the metal

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art community that the neighborhood watch program has come to life and over 77 homes

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have signed up for the program and thanks to the police department coming out, getting

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that set up with all the residents and it is already proved to be a very good program.

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So that concludes my governing body announcements and reports and if you need me, my email is there.

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Don't feel free to contact me. Thank you mayor. Thank you councilmember force you're up. Thank you mayor

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Tough hack to follow. Thank you so much. I'm excited for our meetings to resume for the Riverside County

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Habitat Conservation Agency and Animal Friends of the Valley. We've been dark for the summer

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And so those are due to start up. Now that we are in this amazing month of September, so you can see the events that I attended. We've had several meetings here at the city to discuss hillside ordinance and rate changes for our our trash service as well. I attended the myriad of night storm stadium, quite a lot of fun. Thanks so much for a great throw.

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Mayor Lavelle, that was very good right over the plate.

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You made him stretch a little, but it was good.

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So after I, yeah, it was a curve that curved a little extra, that, hey, it was well over

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the plate.

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That's the most important, right?

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So left the storm stadium and went to Mary at a market night, which was absolutely gorgeous

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night.

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and it was bustling full of people.

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The expansion of myriad of market nights is a success,

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and they have a waiting list.

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They were telling me for new vendors to come.

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So that was really nice to see.

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And some of the suggestions they made for the businesses

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along Washington there, they had spaces for businesses.

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So it was really nice to see some of the things that we discussed

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and asked for come to fruition and I have two pictures of a road closure and a road opening.

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So I think I've been asking for a very long time for Hayes Bridge. So Hayes Bridge is officially

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open and it takes a little while to realize that we can go over that. So thank you so much to staff.

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I know that was a challenge which was supposed to be a quick easy emergency fix that wasn't.

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So thank you for making sure our water quality and all of the things that you went through were up to par with a nice

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beautiful bridge

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It does look narrower than it was, but it isn't

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The big guard rails

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They even did some protection for us that we're just getting used to going over that bridge by putting cones along the side

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That was a nice start to get people used to that

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So thank you so much for making sure that community on the west side is safe and that bridge is wide open. So thank you for that.

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I have been meeting with a lot of local business owners about apartment parking.

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Apartment parking that is occurring in various different businesses over the weekends and cars being left.

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So that's something that people are discussing as well as seeing a lot of cars parked in retail areas as well.

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So that's something that I know that I have spoken with the chief about and he has been very proactive in helping that situation.

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So thank you to our chief for that as well.

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I did attend the Mirrietta, Wildemar Chamber of Commerce Award celebration.

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It was great, a lot of fun.

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John brought his date, as you can see in the picture, so which was so darn cute.

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and so it was amazing. Congratulations to everyone that was nominated and that won. Also a new name, a new name change. We're excited for that.

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The Chamber of Southwest Riverside County. So that was a lot of fun. The confetti that was shot out at the very end, I think that I had lost a few years of my life because of that.

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and no idea but that was quite fun and it was nice to I know we're coming up to the field of

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honor and it was really amazing to see Lou Allen get the Chairman's Choice Awards. That was

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beautiful so she's such a hard worker and I know she's already been by the office to get a sponsorship

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so she's really pushing to make this years a field of honor great and as I was sitting there

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at the award celebration. I realized it was 66 years of awards for the Chamber of Commerce.

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That's a lot older than our city. Almost double our city's age. That's amazing. So,

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that's off to the Chamber for keeping it real and keeping it alive, because I know that's

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very difficult. So, if you need to reach out to me, you can reach out to me via email or if you want

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a quicker response, feel free to text me or call at that number at the bottom. So, thank you all,

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and I appreciate it. Thank you, Mayor. And I will forward you the picture of your date.

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00:49:30,460 --> 00:49:36,060
Thank you very much. You're welcome. Yeah. You know, I, I have no bridge expert, but I know that when

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you go from a forerunner to a Ford Bronco Raptor, the bridge does get smaller because your vehicle got bigger.

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Uh, yeah. Uh, that, that's all. Thank you. Um, Councilman Stone, you're up.

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I thank you, Mayor Lavelle. So I have some very exciting news. I know that many of our residents

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are kind of tired of the traffic congestion, and I've been leading-

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Meeting the effort in southwest Riverside County with the elected leaders collaborative. And the last two years, we've been meeting to discuss how we can address traffic congestion. For those that don't understand our overpasses that are adjacent to our freeways, CalTRANs owns those signals. So when we want to do signal synchronization, it's been very frustrating to work with CalTRANs.

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Thank God for Assembly Member Kate Sanchez, who brought forward legislation AB 2307 and

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also Senator Kelly-Ciato, co-sponsored that legislation.

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It's gone through the entire process and as I reported at our last council meeting that

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it was sitting on the governor's desk for his signature and on Friday, he signed AB 2307 into law.

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So, what does that mean? That means CalTrans is forced to work with all the cities, and we will be putting together a study that we predict will save a minimum of 10 minutes of travel time between our neighboring cities instead of entering our freeways.

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So Marietta led that effort, I want to thank Councilmember Cindy Warren, who was my partner in all of this and her knowledge in the commission that she sits on with transportation.

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She was very instrumental with the knowledge in bringing forward solutions.

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So thank you, Councilmember Warren.

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And how awesome is that for Marietta to lead this effort?

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In addition, we hear you about high-density development and while many of the residents are

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misinformed about the state mandates, we're letting you know that the state controls

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those high-density development.

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We, the city, again, Mayor Pro Tem, Ron Holiday and I are leading the state effort for

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a constitutional amendment.

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I want you to know that between Mayor Pro Tem, Holiday and I addressing this with many

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cities up and down the state of California and also other partnerships that will be very

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instrumental in supporting us for this constitutional amendment.

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And we are going to be presenting before the California League of Cities next week to present

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a resolution.

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And we are praying and hoping that the Housing Policy Committee will accept this resolution.

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and a week later, it will go before the members to vote.

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If this happens, our voices, again, will be heard.

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The state will be forced to have the cities at the table because high-density development is not a one-size-fits-all for every community.

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So when it comes to traffic congestion, when it comes to high-density development,

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I will tell you that Mariette is definitely leading the state with the state in these conversations.

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In addition, you will see a list of all of my meetings, but there's one very important meeting that I'd like to share with you, and that was, I hosted a town hall meeting yesterday.

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I invited the mayor where we spoke to the youth in District 4.

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We wanted to give our youth an opportunity to have their voices heard with regards to safety, education.

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The kids from the ages from 14 to 17 were respectful.

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They came prepared with very, very good questions.

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Our chief responded, our city manager responded.

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We had our state representatives from Kate Sanchez and Kelly C. Arto, and our mayor who also is an advocate motorcycle rider, gave his input as well.

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And it was a great dialogue and it will be perfect for tonight as we discuss our new policy.

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With that you can review all of my meetings and my contact.

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And Mr. Mayor, if I may at this time address the consent calendar portion of my

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governing body announcements, I would appreciate it.

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Thank you so much.

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At our last city council meeting, there was an item on our consent calendar.

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And on April the 7th, our council spoke about ad hoc and standing committees.

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And I was not-

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That city council that night to see the dialogue, and I decided to review that meeting so I could be prepared for our Council meeting two weeks ago. There was some information that was said that I want to clarify some facts. Council member DeForest had a conversation about a standing committee. And our mayor

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had some questions for her about staff time, the allotted staff time to this standing committee.

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And she answered all of his questions.

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But Councilmember DeForest spoke about an event called a day in her shoes.

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And I wanted to clarify, a day in her shoes is a private event.

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The ownership of this event is Oak Grove.

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I wanted to make sure that everyone understood that there is zero time allocated from our staff for the logistics of this private event.

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Just like our standing committees, we have a support system from Isaac for our constitutional amendment in our Assistant City Manager.

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So, I just wanted to let my colleagues know that there is zero staff time allocated to that event, except for we have had public safety twice to this event, and along with our mental behavior health care solace, and our homeless outreach have been speakers at this event to educate the community about the services that directly impact our community.

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So, I just wanted to clarify that there is zero staff time allocated for this private event owned by Kass, by Oak Grove.

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So, thank you, Mr. Mayor.

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Thank you very much to one of the previous comments, the assembly bill.

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I find it interesting that we had to get a bill drafted and to put into law to make California Department of Transportation work with cities.

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You would think that would be their job already?

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Yes, legislation to force a government agency to have a seat at our table.

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This is what we've come to here in the state of California, Mr. Mayor.

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Good work regardless, Mr. Holliday, Mayor Prozim.

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Thank you, on that note, one of the first things I did when I got elected was I set up a meeting with CalTrans and our traffic department to discuss this issue because the intersections at the freeways are a major cause of problems going across town.

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And at that meeting, it was expecting a fight, and CalTrans said almost three and a half years ago now,

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yeah, no problem. You can have control over those, and we've done it before,

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and here's the agreement, and yeah, no problem. Three and a half years later, we have to have

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thanks to Councilmember Warren and Councilmember Stone for carrying that torch forward.

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had to have legislation done to get them to even do part of what they said and they're still not doing everything they said.

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So it'll be interesting going forward how much harder this is going to be now that we have a law on our side.

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Anyhow, for my governing body report, I had our first Santa stop meeting.

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It got delayed because Joni Wadoiac who handles the volunteer side of it was ill so we had

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to postpone it but staff has been doing a great job on parts that the city has to do.

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We're looking at new transportation options so it'll be interesting to see how that's received

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by the city but it's going to save a ton of money for that program and we're getting

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a good response from businesses supporting it, as we always have.

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So looking forward to that, we've got a couple more meanings and then we're going to be

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out doing our annual sandstops.

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It's only going to run for one week this year, the week of December 7th.

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There are still more sponsorships available.

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If you go to mirroredesandestops.org, there's all the information on sponsorships there for

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businesses of all different sizes and consponsored different levels.

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The nice thing if you do a sponsorship of $2,500 or more, your logo on the advertising

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is set right above Santa and Mrs. Clause, so when the pictures are taken that is the

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background.

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So it's great for any business that wants to have their logo in everybody's family

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photos forever.

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And then we're doing a, we tried it last year, but it was kind of...

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Created two lights so we didn't really get the message out. We have something for real letters where if they market a certain neighborhood they can sponsor a route or a stop and will put a sign out for them with their logo and stuff and they can actually come to that stop and talk to the residents and get exposure that way. So those two sponsorships are available. And volunteers, you can start signing up now.

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I think it's 16 is the age limit. 16 is the age limit for younger adults.

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They do get community service credit for that.

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01:00:37,020 --> 01:00:39,080
So for those needing community service credit,

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it's a great way to spend an evening.

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I mean, you're not gonna find anything more fun to do.

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You see the faces on all these little kids

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getting to see Santa for the first time getting a candy cane

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and all my colleagues can attest

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because some of them didn't know what it was.

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01:00:55,260 --> 01:00:56,520
And then when we did the first one, it's like,

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01:00:56,660 --> 01:00:57,560
oh, yeah, this is great.

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So Muria residents kind of said they wanted to see this back.

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and so now it's been back ever since and we'll continue.

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We, Councilmember Sonai had multiple ballot initiative meetings.

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We've gotten some great response from cities across the state looking forward to getting

607
01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:22,160
this past the housing committee at CalCities, past the resolution committee at CalCities and

608
01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:23,500
then ultimately presenting it.

609
01:01:23,940 --> 01:01:32,000
We are invited to share a booth with our neighborhood voices group who is helping us with

610
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:38,920
this effort and we're going to be handing out I think you're going to print about 600 cards

611
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:44,120
out about what this is about and just just for the cities so we're not looking to use

612
01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:47,920
SERP states authority we're not looking to not build housing we're not looking to do that

613
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:55,400
what we're looking to do is have the states say look here's our goals and create legislation

614
01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:59,840
and has enough flexibility that cities can make it right for them.

615
01:02:00,740 --> 01:02:06,140
Not every city wants 10-story high-rise apartment buildings down every major corridor.

616
01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:08,100
Some cities might.

617
01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:14,080
San Francisco might want to, I think they have a 60-story apartment building complex

618
01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:17,280
that's being proposed down there for more housing.

619
01:02:17,860 --> 01:02:18,180
They might.

620
01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:23,140
So far the laws in the state of California haven't solved the housing crisis

621
01:02:23,140 --> 01:02:26,440
and far as quantity and cost at all, zero.

622
01:02:26,820 --> 01:02:30,860
The cost has gone up, and not as much housing as being built as needed.

623
01:02:31,380 --> 01:02:35,880
So, that's a process that we'll be working on through the end of this year.

624
01:02:37,700 --> 01:02:38,480
Thank you for that.

625
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:41,360
Almost as good as the train lady.

626
01:02:45,230 --> 01:02:46,230
We're going to typing.

627
01:02:47,090 --> 01:02:52,910
I went to a couple events, I didn't have any of my committee reports to report

628
01:02:52,910 --> 01:03:00,010
We're down on the Hotsprings resort for the Will the Mar, the marital of the Southern, what is it?

629
01:03:00,250 --> 01:03:06,510
The Southern Chamber, Patrick, the Southern Chamber, the good old chamber, right?

630
01:03:07,950 --> 01:03:11,050
So that was a great event, 66 years is certainly a long time.

631
01:03:11,230 --> 01:03:13,490
Thank you for continuing to raise the bar, Mr. Patrick.

632
01:03:14,370 --> 01:03:17,690
I will say that Danny hates you about as much as the mailman now.

633
01:03:17,970 --> 01:03:22,530
So the loud confetti kin and I made sure she knew it was you that did that.

634
01:03:24,050 --> 01:03:26,650
So she's a very patonatious dog, so be careful.

635
01:03:27,310 --> 01:03:33,550
And then, got to see Congressman Calvert there, talked to him a little bit about El Nino.

636
01:03:34,110 --> 01:03:35,050
I had no idea.

637
01:03:35,530 --> 01:03:37,490
It was the thing this year, and you hear about it all the time.

638
01:03:38,530 --> 01:03:42,910
Well, I didn't think, I mean, I've been in my house and are in this city with no rain for six months.

639
01:03:43,350 --> 01:03:52,230
So, he mentioned that the off coast temperature in the water was, I mean, I think low 80s off one of the buoy measures.

640
01:03:52,230 --> 01:03:55,030
And that is absolutely incredible.

641
01:03:55,330 --> 01:03:59,110
So he was a little concerned about this upcoming rain

642
01:03:59,110 --> 01:04:00,190
we have starting in the desert.

643
01:04:00,570 --> 01:04:02,410
And I'm kind of with him on that one.

644
01:04:02,550 --> 01:04:04,430
It's a, if that's an indicate,

645
01:04:04,730 --> 01:04:07,530
he said something about the temperature,

646
01:04:08,630 --> 01:04:09,930
I'll probably butcher this,

647
01:04:10,030 --> 01:04:11,730
but the relation to the temperature

648
01:04:11,730 --> 01:04:13,950
and how they measure what an El Nino will be,

649
01:04:14,390 --> 01:04:15,910
this one will be the worst

650
01:04:15,910 --> 01:04:17,830
or the most impactful one in a hundred years.

651
01:04:18,150 --> 01:04:20,330
So, get your surfboards out.

652
01:04:20,330 --> 01:04:32,890
And that's all I got, it's been a nice August, last September's here, and there's how you reach me at the email, and then my cell phone's probably on there somewhere too on the website.

653
01:04:33,370 --> 01:04:41,870
But if we reach out for anything any time, thank you very much, and let's move on to non-agenda public comments.

654
01:04:42,470 --> 01:04:44,930
Madam City clerk, do we have any of those?

655
01:04:44,930 --> 01:04:58,010
Thank you, Mr. Mayor, we do have non-agenda public comments as a reminder members of the public may participate in this meeting in person or remotely using Microsoft Teams or the telephone option provided on the meeting agenda.

656
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:16,320
If you wish to address the city council remotely, please use the raise your hand feature as the public comment period for the item before the item begins. Please note, participant cameras and chat features are disabled during the meeting. I will call speakers in the following order. Those present and council chambers follow those by those remote.

657
01:05:21,740 --> 01:05:23,360
Moises, Kovarubias.

658
01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:43,400
Good afternoon mayor and council city members. Good to see you. It's a pleasure to be here. Today I'm taking a moment to talk about government weaponization.

659
01:05:45,200 --> 01:05:52,160
It's something that has come up in our politics, President Trump was, and I don't think he

660
01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:57,140
is anymore, but he was a victim of government weaponization, just to mention a few rep

661
01:05:57,140 --> 01:05:57,480
Luna.

662
01:05:58,900 --> 01:06:06,320
In our communities, unfortunately, a lot of elderly folks, women, veterans, which is really

663
01:06:06,320 --> 01:06:06,620
sad.

664
01:06:07,340 --> 01:06:12,760
And then a lot of minority groups, or groups that are not as visible in our communities are

665
01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:16,960
all victims, or tend to be victims more often.

666
01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:24,120
In government weaponization takes a lot of forms, you know, currently we're in a modern

667
01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:30,660
era, so a lot of it is technological or electronic, what we've heard of discussed as electronic

668
01:06:30,660 --> 01:06:31,220
harassment.

669
01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:38,940
This comes in the form of voice to school, patent U.S. 4877027A, remote neuromondering patent

670
01:06:38,940 --> 01:06:41,540
U.S. 3951134A.

671
01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:47,740
Now, with voice to skull, it's basically a microwave auditory effect.

672
01:06:48,040 --> 01:06:53,540
Basically, you can hear stuff, noise disturbances, and I just see my time is kind of running down.

673
01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:59,280
I know this is an unpleasant thing to talk about, but I would just urge you guys not to run down my time.

674
01:07:01,940 --> 01:07:04,820
The other thing, okay, remote neuron monitoring, mind reading.

675
01:07:04,820 --> 01:07:12,620
This is basically either the reading of brainwaves and altering of brainwaves.

676
01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:20,320
RF frequencies is another electronic harassment that a lot of people experience.

677
01:07:22,660 --> 01:07:29,420
I'll also here to promote targetedjustice.com, which is the leading organization that is helping

678
01:07:29,420 --> 01:07:35,400
folks who are suffering from this government weaponization, go to targetadjustice.com.

679
01:07:36,080 --> 01:07:40,720
If you feel like you are experiencing this, it's also a great source to learn more.

680
01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:42,360
You don't have to take my word for these things.

681
01:07:43,980 --> 01:07:48,020
The other thing I was going to talk about is this, there's many forms that this takes with

682
01:07:48,020 --> 01:07:52,680
President Trump, he suffered legal warfare, which I actually am also a sufferer in a victim.

683
01:07:53,720 --> 01:08:01,360
Currently, unfortunately you have to mention, I have false allegations against me, I'm dealing

684
01:08:01,360 --> 01:08:04,480
with criminal things in a lot of things in court.

685
01:08:05,560 --> 01:08:16,000
Here at Southwest Justice Center, unfortunately, I have seen fraudulent or corrupt behavior

686
01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:22,580
from judges like Judge Knight, Judge Judith Clark, also attorneys,

687
01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:28,240
Lori Reems, Aaron Cretzer, and Kara Hailing, just to name a few.

688
01:08:28,520 --> 01:08:33,100
And I'm sorry to call people out like that, but anyway.

689
01:08:34,320 --> 01:08:35,520
Great, let me just wrap it up here.

690
01:08:35,660 --> 01:08:36,500
Thank you for the time.

691
01:08:37,480 --> 01:08:40,780
I'll just say that I'll give you 10 more seconds.

692
01:08:41,060 --> 01:08:41,980
Thank you so much.

693
01:08:41,980 --> 01:08:46,960
I'll just say that currently the government is compensating victims,

694
01:08:47,380 --> 01:08:51,820
Havana syndrome, sufferers, corporate entities, like eBay are

695
01:08:51,820 --> 01:08:57,840
dishing out, recently dishing out $55.7 million to a couple who suffered from this.

696
01:08:58,040 --> 01:09:01,320
All right, that's, that's 10, I'm going to cut you off, sorry.

697
01:09:01,440 --> 01:09:04,360
Thank you so much, and yeah, thank you, good day.

698
01:09:04,940 --> 01:09:05,760
Jennifer Evans.

699
01:09:17,660 --> 01:09:21,200
Okay, now you've messed it up because I said she was the first one to get it and you have one.

700
01:09:21,200 --> 01:09:22,500
but that's okay, you can be buddies.

701
01:09:22,800 --> 01:09:23,420
That's okay.

702
01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:26,120
My name is Jennifer Evans.

703
01:09:26,820 --> 01:09:30,780
I'm the Director of Development for Special Olympics for Southern California.

704
01:09:31,600 --> 01:09:35,560
And this is Kristen just to let you know we are so honored tonight,

705
01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:39,860
because she is a gold medalist in Marietta, and she is your resident,

706
01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:41,380
and she brought home the gold for you.

707
01:09:41,880 --> 01:09:42,960
So, yeah, all right.

708
01:09:44,860 --> 01:09:46,200
It's swimming, correct?

709
01:09:46,540 --> 01:09:46,780
Swimming.

710
01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:48,660
And swimming, and now she's in botchyball.

711
01:09:49,380 --> 01:09:54,320
Yeah, and she has had the opportunity to go to Greece and actually compete because of special Olympics.

712
01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:59,860
Special Olympics was founded in 1968 by Unice Kennedy-Striver because she said

713
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:29,600
That everyone deserves a place to belong, and to be loved, and to be celebrated. So that's what we're doing. You may know me from Michelle's place. I've been there for many years, and when Special Olympics called, and I got the job, there was two things that people said. They said, oh my gosh, that's so great. You do the games every four years. So much more than that. We are in, actually, Marietta Vista has your, one of your nation's leading unified programs, and we are very proud of that, where we are partnering with our agenda students.

714
01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:31,500
with special education students

715
01:10:31,500 --> 01:10:34,600
and teaching them that we all belong in this world, right?

716
01:10:35,400 --> 01:10:38,380
So, and we're doing competitions all year round, right?

717
01:10:38,700 --> 01:10:40,620
We are very busy people, right?

718
01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:42,780
And the other thing they said to me is,

719
01:10:42,860 --> 01:10:43,460
when are you moving?

720
01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:45,740
And I was like, oh, that's a whole my beer moment

721
01:10:45,740 --> 01:10:48,280
because I'm like, there's so much more that needs to be done.

722
01:10:48,720 --> 01:10:51,120
And it's just telling the stories of people like Kristen,

723
01:10:51,380 --> 01:10:54,000
that even though there are certain intellectual disabilities

724
01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:56,300
that may keep her from doing certain things

725
01:10:56,300 --> 01:10:58,020
when she's a special Olympics

726
01:10:58,020 --> 01:11:05,140
And a law enforcement officer like Chief Henry and Captain Parker, put that medal around her neck, how's that feel?

727
01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:15,060
Wonderful, wonderful, pretty awesome, and they do that on their own time, even beyond saving us from all the things they save us from, they come as well.

728
01:11:15,420 --> 01:11:24,960
Trying to get fire involved also, Maloy, but Maloy said it best at the end of this, he said involvement matters, involvement really does matter.

729
01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:26,600
So what do we need from you?

730
01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:30,180
There's a couple of things we just need you to help us tell our story.

731
01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:33,580
We need volunteers, nothing works without volunteers.

732
01:11:33,580 --> 01:11:37,540
We have a four to one ratio, and we could have athletes, but if we don't have coaches,

733
01:11:37,740 --> 01:11:38,860
it really doesn't matter.

734
01:11:39,720 --> 01:11:44,960
And also, it's no call store athletes to go to Greece, to compete, to be a part of their

735
01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:45,520
community.

736
01:11:45,880 --> 01:11:47,460
And we do that because we raise funds.

737
01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:52,700
One of them being the Temecula Torch Run, which is coming up, is their 25th year, it

738
01:11:52,700 --> 01:11:53,940
is on September 20th.

739
01:11:53,940 --> 01:11:59,980
there's a challenge thrown out that's dropping on Thursday between Mayor Alexander and Mayor LaVelle.

740
01:12:00,460 --> 01:12:09,060
They've been doing some on the scene, sorry, run out of time, but behind the scenes shooting and we're going to see who which city is the best.

741
01:12:09,680 --> 01:12:14,920
I'm not opposed. Patrick sold my idea because when I was talking Chief Henry, what did we say?

742
01:12:15,420 --> 01:12:21,300
We could call it the Southwest, right? Torch Run, and here comes Patrick.

743
01:12:21,300 --> 01:12:27,580
So anyway, it's fine, so we'll wrap up our time, but please support this.

744
01:12:27,840 --> 01:12:34,480
Please support your mayor because if you guys lose on which city raises the roast most money, there's a punishment involved.

745
01:12:35,440 --> 01:12:41,920
And he thinks that he thinks that he's going to take on mayor Alexander, so I can't wait to see what happens.

746
01:12:42,420 --> 01:12:43,400
Thank you so much.

747
01:12:43,500 --> 01:12:46,160
Thank you very much and congratulations, that's awesome.

748
01:12:46,440 --> 01:12:47,540
Thank you for your time.

749
01:12:52,470 --> 01:13:03,550
So she just let the cat out of the bag. I've all been told all of you to participate. I don't know how you're going to do that yet, but you're going to at the event on September 20th.

750
01:13:03,730 --> 01:13:10,150
Yeah, and we're going to do our PD has a team officially already. We're going to be if you're available. We're going to be there in spirit.

751
01:13:10,510 --> 01:13:13,870
And I'm going to run for sure you guys can join me. You don't have to.

752
01:13:16,110 --> 01:13:20,850
Again, to make those entire city council, I want to make an all-challenged just me,

753
01:13:21,010 --> 01:13:26,490
I'll wear, you know, we'll do something fun where it wouldn't ice them to get a little

754
01:13:26,490 --> 01:13:26,870
competitive.

755
01:13:27,150 --> 01:13:31,230
So, I think I'm worried about Brennan, and that's about it.

756
01:13:31,230 --> 01:13:31,350
Yeah.

757
01:13:32,350 --> 01:13:32,630
Brennan.

758
01:13:34,750 --> 01:13:35,230
Okay.

759
01:13:35,630 --> 01:13:36,110
Sorry.

760
01:13:36,250 --> 01:13:36,530
Moving on.

761
01:13:37,090 --> 01:13:38,050
James Johnson.

762
01:13:38,050 --> 01:13:38,810
Everyone,

763
01:13:46,130 --> 01:13:53,170
my name is James. I am a resident at the Arbors on Caloaks, and I'm also a student

764
01:13:53,170 --> 01:13:59,010
and a captain on the MSJC debate team. But today, unfortunately, I have to bring the

765
01:13:59,010 --> 01:14:05,150
mood down just a little bit. I'm here to just lodge a formal complaint about the prevalence

766
01:14:05,150 --> 01:14:10,590
that we see of flock cameras all over our city and just in general. I believe that they

767
01:14:10,590 --> 01:14:14,790
are a violation of our right to privacy. And specifically, what I'd like to talk about

768
01:14:14,790 --> 01:14:20,470
today is the Hawthorne effect. This is something that is used in the advertisement of flock

769
01:14:21,250 --> 01:14:27,150
very publicly. The idea is that people who believe that they are being watched are less likely

770
01:14:27,150 --> 01:14:33,510
to act out in some way. This is used primarily in their advertising as a way to deter crime.

771
01:14:33,850 --> 01:14:40,010
But that also means that people who may just want to be by themselves and sing to themselves,

772
01:14:40,130 --> 01:14:43,290
or do anything where they're trying to explore their identity in some way,

773
01:14:43,290 --> 01:14:46,810
They're less likely to do so if they believe that they're constantly being watched.

774
01:14:47,170 --> 01:14:53,590
A good example of this is a man I saw online who believed that he was completely by himself

775
01:14:53,590 --> 01:14:57,230
with no idea of that anyone was watching him but was being monitored by a flock

776
01:14:57,230 --> 01:14:59,810
camera who went to a public park and just went

777
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:29,460
I went and began swinging back and forth on a public swing. I can't imagine that a man in his mid-30s or older would go on a public swing knowing that he would be being watched. And again, that may not seem like something that is that big of a deal, but I believe it is very important to us as people to have our ability to enjoy ourselves and express ourselves without constantly being watched. I understand that many people will make the argument that these cameras are

778
01:15:29,460 --> 01:15:35,180
a means of safety, but really I think that we as Americans, and especially here in our city,

779
01:15:35,580 --> 01:15:41,460
we value our privacy over our safety. I think that's just a thing that we across the board

780
01:15:41,460 --> 01:15:46,900
and our nation believe in. There are other places around the world where security is more important

781
01:15:46,900 --> 01:15:49,360
in privacy. I don't think that holds here in America.

782
01:15:51,400 --> 01:15:53,860
Also, I just did take a look while I was sitting

783
01:15:53,860 --> 01:15:59,180
here. Just this, Mary at a sports park, which is where I take my dog and a walk. I know there are at

784
01:15:59,180 --> 01:16:02,320
at least four cameras, I got 40 seconds left, sorry about that.

785
01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:06,080
I know there are at least four cameras there, and just looking up the bill for that.

786
01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:11,640
It was $200,000 almost in tax dollars that went into putting those up.

787
01:16:12,040 --> 01:16:20,580
And there's a recurring annual cost of $87,750, $50, and one cent every year of tax dollars that goes into that.

788
01:16:20,820 --> 01:16:26,160
And I mean, we could be using that on so many other projects like infrastructure things that really go to benefit our community.

789
01:16:26,160 --> 01:16:30,540
instead of watching our people like a hawk.

790
01:16:31,040 --> 01:16:37,900
The last thing I want to say is that these cameras are accessible to anybody who pays for them and are not that hard to hack.

791
01:16:38,620 --> 01:16:46,820
And that means that especially places like the myriad of sports park where there's 24-7 live coverage and archived footage.

792
01:16:46,820 --> 01:16:57,540
There are anyone can access these cameras and anyone can access those cameras and track children, and I think that's a problem.

793
01:16:58,300 --> 01:17:00,040
Okay, thank you for your comments.

794
01:17:00,500 --> 01:17:00,880
Thank you so much.

795
01:17:02,540 --> 01:17:03,540
Anna Flague.

796
01:17:11,360 --> 01:17:11,780
Thank you.

797
01:17:12,820 --> 01:17:15,840
She requested the pass because her question was already answered.

798
01:17:16,460 --> 01:17:17,780
Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

799
01:17:38,120 --> 01:17:45,140
I am with Oak Grove Center, I just wanted to be here just briefly to clarify a comment

800
01:17:45,140 --> 01:17:50,320
about April 7th about the meeting on April 7th regarding the day and issues and Oak Grove

801
01:17:50,320 --> 01:17:52,140
being the sole beneficiary of the event.

802
01:17:52,740 --> 01:17:58,240
Day and issues is actually an Oak Grove Center event and fundraiser, Oak Grove owns, organizes,

803
01:17:58,400 --> 01:18:01,940
produces and financially supports the event and the net proceeds benefit.

804
01:18:01,940 --> 01:18:06,700
it, Oak Grove program serving young adults going or aging out of foster care.

805
01:18:07,380 --> 01:18:12,700
But while Oak Grove is the beneficiary, Dana Shuse has never been exclusive about Oak Grove.

806
01:18:13,020 --> 01:18:19,000
Since the event was founded, by Council Member Laurie Stone, it has grown into a community

807
01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:23,780
platform where we intentionally bring together nonprofits, public agencies, businesses,

808
01:18:24,420 --> 01:18:30,840
community leaders, students to engage, connect and have meaningful conversations about issues

809
01:18:30,840 --> 01:18:32,220
who's affecting women in our community.

810
01:18:32,800 --> 01:18:36,440
In fact, Project Touch, which Council member

811
01:18:36,440 --> 01:18:38,080
DeFora specifically mentioned,

812
01:18:38,420 --> 01:18:39,920
was featured at a date and issues.

813
01:18:40,360 --> 01:18:43,180
This year is part of our session addressing mental health.

814
01:18:45,540 --> 01:18:48,780
We have also hosted women and non-profit sessions

815
01:18:48,780 --> 01:18:52,200
featuring CEOs in Michelle's place

816
01:18:52,200 --> 01:18:53,540
and Habitat for Humanity.

817
01:18:54,340 --> 01:18:56,620
And we are continuing that approach in 2027.

818
01:18:57,580 --> 01:18:59,280
Next year, we will feature conversations

819
01:18:59,280 --> 01:19:03,920
with women in military, women in finance, among other topics, and

820
01:19:03,920 --> 01:19:07,460
mill that, another local nonprofit will also participate in the event.

821
01:19:08,640 --> 01:19:13,180
So just simply wanted to make it clear, and set the record straight that a day and

822
01:19:13,180 --> 01:19:19,600
a choose is a no-growth event, and is the sole recipient of the proceeds.

823
01:19:23,340 --> 01:19:28,180
We are grateful for all the city's involvement, for Council Member Stone's vision in founding the event,

824
01:19:28,180 --> 01:19:31,640
and for all of the community partners who have helped make it what it is today.

825
01:19:32,300 --> 01:19:36,680
We hope you'll join us on Friday, March 5th at Maria Hot Springs Resort for a day in her shoes 2027.

826
01:19:37,360 --> 01:19:37,620
Thank you.

827
01:19:37,800 --> 01:19:39,300
What's the theme of this year's?

828
01:19:39,600 --> 01:19:40,220
We got military.

829
01:19:40,700 --> 01:19:41,280
Military right now.

830
01:19:41,340 --> 01:19:44,780
And women in finance and then some other specials that we don't want to say just yet.

831
01:19:46,080 --> 01:19:47,080
Thank you very much.

832
01:19:47,640 --> 01:19:48,380
All right, thank you.

833
01:19:51,590 --> 01:19:52,510
Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

834
01:19:52,650 --> 01:19:56,570
That concludes public comments and they're seeing none remote as well.

835
01:19:57,010 --> 01:19:57,190
Wow.

836
01:19:57,590 --> 01:19:59,970
Yeah, I would like to note though that if you are here.

837
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:00,860
Chair for a public comment?

838
01:20:05,470 --> 01:20:08,590
Oh, Mr. Casson Klein, I'm sorry, I thought you withdrew.

839
01:20:10,730 --> 01:20:11,890
Best for last, here we go.

840
01:20:31,820 --> 01:20:38,140
Eurena, Jim of the Valley, connected by community. How are we connected?

841
01:20:40,160 --> 01:20:41,520
The main form is communication.

842
01:20:43,400 --> 01:20:52,020
Now not everybody is as boisterous as I am. One of the reasons I'm as boisterous as I am is I'm about 90% deaf in my left ear.

843
01:20:52,020 --> 01:20:56,920
Although as I mentioned a few months ago, I've started to wear my hearing aid here to these meetings

844
01:20:56,920 --> 01:21:02,780
because it's difficult for me as I sit usually back there to hear many of you.

845
01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:05,220
I was raised

846
01:21:07,520 --> 01:21:12,780
with the idea, if you have something meaningful to say, be heard.

847
01:21:14,700 --> 01:21:19,900
So without calling anyone out specifically, because that's not my purpose here

848
01:21:19,900 --> 01:21:23,820
but when staff is sitting back here giving presentations,

849
01:21:24,880 --> 01:21:30,180
when either of you are speaking, including Justin or the city attorney,

850
01:21:31,160 --> 01:21:35,220
it's imperative that you speak into the microphones and that we hear you.

851
01:21:37,220 --> 01:21:42,080
And I would say especially when the five of you and Justin and or the city attorney,

852
01:21:42,180 --> 01:21:47,680
and there are many times where I can't hear you and the public can't hear you.

853
01:21:47,680 --> 01:21:55,640
So, again, if we're truly connected by community and if what you have to say is meaningful, then please speak up.

854
01:21:56,080 --> 01:21:56,740
Thank you.

855
01:21:59,130 --> 01:21:59,690
Thank you.

856
01:22:08,340 --> 01:22:08,660
Thank you.

857
01:22:08,660 --> 01:22:10,000
You are heading items.

858
01:22:10,480 --> 01:22:17,080
The public comments, but I would like to make a note that if you are here for the e-bike item and you would like a public comment,

859
01:22:17,620 --> 01:22:21,740
to go ahead and bring up a speaker card up over here to the clerk.

860
01:22:22,300 --> 01:22:22,900
That's it, Mr. Mayor.

861
01:22:23,100 --> 01:22:23,360
Okay.

862
01:22:23,360 --> 01:22:32,500
Okay. Thank you. Moving on to the consent calendar. Are there any requests from any of our city council to pull items or recuse themselves from voting?

863
01:22:35,510 --> 01:22:40,030
I can't see anything. There's nobody on my list. I'd like to call for a motion a second for the approval of,

864
01:22:46,040 --> 01:22:46,600
do you have one?

865
01:23:10,310 --> 01:23:10,790
I

866
01:23:20,480 --> 01:23:22,840
didn't think I was in that map, but I'll recuse myself.

867
01:23:24,920 --> 01:23:27,240
City Clerk, I'm fine with recruising myself from that item.

868
01:23:27,660 --> 01:23:34,740
I'll recuse myself from item number five, as I own property within a thousand foot of this item.

869
01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:38,560
All right, thank you very much for that clarity.

870
01:23:39,520 --> 01:23:41,480
Let's call for a motion and a second for the approval.

871
01:23:41,680 --> 01:23:45,840
I got a motion by Mayor Pro Temmolity and a second by Councilman DeForest.

872
01:23:45,980 --> 01:23:46,240
Let's vote.

873
01:23:46,240 --> 01:23:47,140
Motion

874
01:23:53,480 --> 01:23:57,440
carries unanimously, 5-0, with noting the recusal for Councilmember de Forrest.

875
01:23:59,420 --> 01:24:00,580
Thank you very much.

876
01:24:02,340 --> 01:24:07,400
Okay, for the sole discussion of tonight, the most popular topic in America.

877
01:24:07,860 --> 01:24:08,280
E-bikes.

878
01:24:10,180 --> 01:24:11,800
We have the solution, I think.

879
01:24:13,020 --> 01:24:13,160
Right?

880
01:24:37,610 --> 01:24:40,010
Council, we're here for E-bikes.

881
01:24:41,070 --> 01:24:41,570
Buckle up.

882
01:24:41,890 --> 01:24:42,290
Here we go.

883
01:24:42,290 --> 01:24:59,930
So yeah, it is definitely a very popular topic that not just us, not just Southwest Riverside County, not just Riverside County, but Southern California, California and all over, as mentioned, it's an issue that law enforcement and public safety is dealing with and cities alike.

884
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:26,840
And we're trying to do everything we can to help the e-bike issue in our city. So I'm going to give you a presentation about kind of the status of e-bikes and ordinances and what the police department is specifically doing for our city. I will have some statistics a little bit at the end and also some updates on the ordinance that we're looking to implement here for our city. And any sort of questions that you may have at the end, I'll be willing to answer.

885
01:25:30,680 --> 01:25:35,000
Just to kick it off, let me give you the main three types of e-bikes just so we know what

886
01:25:35,000 --> 01:25:35,640
we're talking about.

887
01:25:36,240 --> 01:25:37,660
There's three classes, one, two, and three.

888
01:25:38,520 --> 01:25:44,400
Class one is a pedal-assisted e-bike that is capable of going 20 miles an hour.

889
01:25:45,280 --> 01:25:50,080
Class two is actually operated with a throttle instead of pedals and it also can max out

890
01:25:50,080 --> 01:25:51,080
at 20 miles an hour.

891
01:25:51,880 --> 01:25:57,040
The class three is going to be your fastest e-bike and that is going to be pedal-assisted

892
01:25:57,040 --> 01:26:00,460
but just with more power and can reach speeds up to 28 miles an hour.

893
01:26:04,010 --> 01:26:09,490
The three classes of e-bikes that we just spoke about are different from what are e-motor cycles,

894
01:26:09,490 --> 01:26:14,710
or you might hear the brand name of SIRON. Those are basically an off-road dirt bike

895
01:26:14,710 --> 01:26:21,190
powered by electricity or a battery. As either not designed for riding on the street,

896
01:26:21,390 --> 01:26:25,230
any sort of roadways, bike lanes, sidewalks, or really anywhere that pedestrians would be,

897
01:26:25,910 --> 01:26:32,470
They most resemble a motorcycle, unfortunately we do see a lot of them on our streets and

898
01:26:32,470 --> 01:26:38,310
on our sidewalks, but they do have a distinct appearance different from the normal e-bikes

899
01:26:38,310 --> 01:26:39,070
I'll reuse the scene.

900
01:26:39,690 --> 01:26:44,330
And again, these can exceed up to or up in over 50 miles an hour because they basically

901
01:26:44,330 --> 01:26:45,570
are a motorcycle.

902
01:26:49,050 --> 01:26:54,650
One distinct thing about them is that you will not see pedals on the e-models, but you actually

903
01:26:54,650 --> 01:27:00,930
You may see pedals on e-motos because they're sold as an accessory and they offer zero function on the bike.

904
01:27:01,530 --> 01:27:13,190
It's really the only function is to, at first glance, an officer might think that it's not an e-moto and that it is an e-bike and not conduct a traffic stopper enforcement stop on that.

905
01:27:14,110 --> 01:27:15,650
And again, those are for off-road only.

906
01:27:17,230 --> 01:27:22,110
It's a quick overview of what we're seeing in the police department over the last couple years.

907
01:27:22,110 --> 01:27:27,230
And the numbers that you're going to see right here are actually the bare minimum.

908
01:27:27,550 --> 01:27:29,790
We had to change our call types.

909
01:27:30,490 --> 01:27:36,610
Basically we had to add a call type specific to e-bikes once we saw that they were gaining traction and we were getting more and more calls.

910
01:27:37,250 --> 01:27:43,150
So there were calls that we tracked in our CAD system that were e-bike related, but

911
01:27:43,150 --> 01:27:45,890
we're not identified as being e-bike related.

912
01:27:45,890 --> 01:27:50,790
So this number of 1369 is actually the lowest number that it could be.

913
01:27:50,890 --> 01:27:52,570
It's actually going to be more of the complaint.

914
01:27:52,710 --> 01:27:56,070
So what that's showing is over 1300 complaints.

915
01:27:56,270 --> 01:28:01,610
Those are calls into our dispatch center of citizens complaining about something e-bike-related.

916
01:28:02,030 --> 01:28:09,250
Either interfering with traffic, accidents, mobs of 3, 4, 5, 10 bikes riding down the street,

917
01:28:09,710 --> 01:28:12,690
doing wheelies, reckless driving, damaging property at our parks.

918
01:28:12,690 --> 01:28:19,810
So as you can see in a couple of years time, and exponentially in the last maybe year and a half to a year we've had

919
01:28:20,890 --> 01:28:26,870
1369 there, but I can tell you it's probably upwards to 15 to 1600, maybe a couple more calls for service.

920
01:28:27,350 --> 01:28:34,690
That means at least one, the two officers are responding at least 1369 times just for

921
01:28:35,530 --> 01:28:38,610
bad e-bike riding, I guess we're lack of a better way of putting it.

922
01:28:38,610 --> 01:28:47,330
During that time, we've had 82 collisions involving e-bikes since there's really no protection other than a helmet for the riders.

923
01:28:47,590 --> 01:28:53,970
As you can see, 75 injuries have resulted from those collisions and one fatality.

924
01:28:57,590 --> 01:28:58,690
Why does this matter?

925
01:28:59,470 --> 01:29:02,730
The community concern residents, again, with those calls.

926
01:29:03,030 --> 01:29:09,610
We get them from residents, businesses, the schools, the parks, city staff, community services department.

927
01:29:09,610 --> 01:29:13,770
And everybody is calling us for problems with e-bikes.

928
01:29:14,590 --> 01:29:17,670
Who are we dealing with the most of the time?

929
01:29:18,290 --> 01:29:20,930
Juveniles, kids between 12 to 17 years old.

930
01:29:21,550 --> 01:29:24,830
With that comes sometimes not the greatest decision making.

931
01:29:25,530 --> 01:29:29,270
With these e-bikes, and we look at what it takes to drive a car.

932
01:29:29,670 --> 01:29:34,450
We have hours upon hours of education that are 16 or 15 year old must take.

933
01:29:34,970 --> 01:29:37,370
Six hours behind the wheel with a certified instructor.

934
01:29:38,250 --> 01:29:43,030
That person then needs to go down to the DMV and prove to the state that they know how to drive.

935
01:29:43,930 --> 01:29:52,090
We're now taking up to, or really we don't have an age limit yet in our city, but 11, 12, 13, 14 year olds throwing them into our streets,

936
01:29:52,210 --> 01:29:58,290
which we know are pretty crowded nowadays with lots of traffic and expect them to understand the rules of the road.

937
01:29:58,630 --> 01:29:59,810
What is a right away?

938
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:29,980
What are they supposed to stop? Where are they supposed to ride? And when we're relying on a 12-year-old to make those decisions, it's not working. And again, the safety impact, not only for the riders, but when they do start interfering with our commuters and our drivers, it just makes it harder for them to get from point A to point B safely. And we've had plenty of drivers who have struck and been involved in these accidents. And it really takes a mental toll on our community members.

939
01:30:29,980 --> 01:30:38,460
when they're the ones driving the car that hits the 12 or 13-year-old and they're responsible for it or are a part of it, maybe not even being responsible, but just being a part of it.

940
01:30:43,360 --> 01:30:53,360
Just a high call volume. Complain activity has increased significantly over the second year of our review so I would have mainly been around the end of 24 and 25 with over 500 documented complaints.

941
01:30:54,000 --> 01:31:00,540
The highest call volume, as we're seeing because it's growing with every month that goes by our volume of calls and accidents is increasing.

942
01:31:00,540 --> 01:31:07,080
late 2025 and early 2026 is where we really saw the uptick and it was you know

943
01:31:07,080 --> 01:31:11,420
very noticeable that we had to start taking action to combat some of the issues

944
01:31:11,420 --> 01:31:17,120
that we're getting. Again in May of 26 that was our highest call volume so

945
01:31:17,120 --> 01:31:22,000
again it's it's growing. Where in our city are we seeing the majority of our

946
01:31:22,000 --> 01:31:25,960
problems? Many of you know that the corridor along Washington there's a

947
01:31:25,960 --> 01:31:29,360
Ralph shopping center. We get a very high influx from the high school in the middle

948
01:31:29,360 --> 01:31:34,400
school there after school on the weekends. Our Kellogg sports park we see a large group

949
01:31:34,400 --> 01:31:38,660
a lot of times. On the east end of our city via Merrimosa Park or we're starting to

950
01:31:38,660 --> 01:31:42,800
see more and more actually there. That started off kind of slow and they've caught up.

951
01:31:43,820 --> 01:31:50,440
So major traffic corridors, Kellogg's whitewood, Los Alamos, we're getting calls about those locations

952
01:31:50,440 --> 01:31:54,260
daily. And then a couple of the ones are listed as you can see.

953
01:31:57,530 --> 01:31:58,770
So really there's no area

954
01:31:58,770 --> 01:32:00,970
that's not dealing with it in our city right now.

955
01:32:01,770 --> 01:32:03,530
A little more analysis on the collisions,

956
01:32:03,530 --> 01:32:05,490
like I said, there was 82 documented collisions

957
01:32:05,490 --> 01:32:07,990
with 75 of injuries and one fatality.

958
01:32:08,550 --> 01:32:10,890
Again, these are going to be, and I'll point to it a little bit

959
01:32:10,890 --> 01:32:12,370
later where I show some statistics.

960
01:32:13,010 --> 01:32:16,650
But 82, I'm going to say is actually very, very underrepresent

961
01:32:17,510 --> 01:32:19,730
representative of how many accidents we've actually had.

962
01:32:20,230 --> 01:32:22,270
These are ones that the police have responded to,

963
01:32:22,670 --> 01:32:25,650
not ones in which have crashed and have been luckily able

964
01:32:25,650 --> 01:32:29,190
to get up and go home and be treated there or taken to a hospital.

965
01:32:33,040 --> 01:32:39,580
The main contributing factors to the collisions that we're seeing are the riders are predominantly

966
01:32:39,940 --> 01:32:45,980
the outfelt parties, not entirely, but I would say very large majority are the riders that

967
01:32:45,980 --> 01:32:46,440
are at fault.

968
01:32:47,280 --> 01:32:50,520
Failure and get here's the rules of the road that we're expecting them to follow that we're

969
01:32:50,520 --> 01:32:52,060
obviously seeing they're unable to.

970
01:32:52,560 --> 01:32:57,160
Failure to yield right away unsafe speed because some of these bikes can get up to over

971
01:32:57,160 --> 01:33:03,040
60 miles an hour on the e-motos, stop sign violations, many of us know as we're driving down

972
01:33:03,040 --> 01:33:08,420
the streets, either on Madison, Washington, we don't see too many e-bikes stopping at

973
01:33:08,420 --> 01:33:13,980
our stop signs. It's almost just like they're not there. Traffic signal violations, improper

974
01:33:13,980 --> 01:33:19,440
turns, riding on the wrong way, and just the inability to safely navigate and make unsafe

975
01:33:19,440 --> 01:33:20,060
lane changes.

976
01:33:21,940 --> 01:33:28,000
One aspect, one of the several aspects that we do obviously is enforcement, just like traffic

977
01:33:28,000 --> 01:33:31,580
enforcement, we do conduct enforcement on the e-bike riders.

978
01:33:32,900 --> 01:33:37,540
During this time, we've had 10 directed operations, this is only going to include the specific

979
01:33:37,540 --> 01:33:42,800
operations where we take a group of officers and for a specific amount of time their job

980
01:33:42,800 --> 01:33:44,860
is e-bike enforcement.

981
01:33:44,860 --> 01:33:48,380
So we've had 10 actual directed operations.

982
01:33:48,760 --> 01:33:53,520
In those, we've had 146 traffic stops with 102 citations issued.

983
01:33:54,240 --> 01:33:56,960
But just as important, there's 84 warnings.

984
01:33:57,160 --> 01:34:03,560
So we're not out there just trying to lob as many tickets as we possibly can.

985
01:34:03,900 --> 01:34:06,820
We are doing warnings with the educational aspect of it.

986
01:34:07,320 --> 01:34:11,380
And with that, we've impounded 42 e-bikes.

987
01:34:11,380 --> 01:34:15,220
And those are predominantly going to be the e-models, the Surons, the actual motorcycles.

988
01:34:16,100 --> 01:34:22,320
And that's simply because you're driving out of class with our really, the bike can't be on the road.

989
01:34:22,720 --> 01:34:26,980
So plain and simple, a Suron and e-model, if it's driven on the road, it's going to more likely get impounded.

990
01:34:29,280 --> 01:34:34,600
And we have impounded Surons from riders who were 12 and 13 years old.

991
01:34:38,350 --> 01:34:43,210
The other things that we're doing, other than the enforcement action, our portion is education and prevention.

992
01:34:43,210 --> 01:34:49,470
We have partnered with the Meredith Valley Unified School District and created a comprehensive e-bike safety program with them.

993
01:34:49,990 --> 01:34:59,910
Just this last week and the week before, I have officers that were in front of upwards to four to 450 students in the first couple of weeks of class giving them.

994
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:28,800
And educational, an educational course on e-bike safety in the rules of the road. Part of that class is further with the school district is a certification process for those who ride their bikes on campus. They have to take a class, sign a couple of documents, you know, saying they're going to abide by the rules and practice good safety. And they were getting a certification sticker that they place on their bike that allows them to bring that bike onto campus. If they do not have that sticker, that bike is not allowed on their campus.

995
01:35:29,480 --> 01:35:33,300
The additional things we're doing is trying to reach the parents.

996
01:35:33,820 --> 01:35:41,480
We're finding that there's a significant disconnect between the city, the police apartment, the riders, and the parents.

997
01:35:41,580 --> 01:35:43,560
There's a disconnect between everybody involved.

998
01:35:44,080 --> 01:35:49,260
Many of the parents that we speak to really don't understand the capabilities of a lot of these bikes.

999
01:35:49,520 --> 01:35:54,500
They've never actually gone out and got on them themselves or been out with their children while they've ridden.

1000
01:35:54,500 --> 01:35:57,540
It's here's your bike and go join your friends.

1001
01:35:57,900 --> 01:36:00,080
They don't know that they can go 28 miles an hour

1002
01:36:00,080 --> 01:36:01,900
and they just handed it to their 12-year-old,

1003
01:36:02,400 --> 01:36:06,500
or the serons in which they're going 50, 60 miles an hour.

1004
01:36:07,280 --> 01:36:08,840
Community engagement with social media,

1005
01:36:08,840 --> 01:36:11,500
and anytime we've done a couple of campaigns,

1006
01:36:11,500 --> 01:36:14,500
just outlining good rules and good laws

1007
01:36:14,500 --> 01:36:16,040
and just good writer safety.

1008
01:36:17,480 --> 01:36:19,080
And then anytime we can get in front of people,

1009
01:36:19,360 --> 01:36:21,760
like yesterday's meeting, we had a group of kids.

1010
01:36:22,260 --> 01:36:23,460
Anytime we can get an audience

1011
01:36:23,460 --> 01:36:37,720
that we can share the police department side or the city side on just safe writing, responsible writing, we're trying to do that, if it's national night out, if it's at any event, we're going to be willing to share some sort of knowledge to try to keep people safe.

1012
01:36:41,630 --> 01:36:52,150
Again, with the enforcement is accountability, we're starting to take more and more accountability measures, and you'll see that little bit with our updated municipal code and what we're doing with our parents.

1013
01:36:53,230 --> 01:37:03,490
We have now created a parent advisement form and what this form does is when we issue a citation or we see, you know, we contact some, some writers for some unsafe behavior.

1014
01:37:04,010 --> 01:37:17,710
We will issue a form to the parents, which kind of just says, hey, we're putting you on notice that your child is, is writing irresponsibly and dangerous and could potentially either harm themselves or be the cause of harming others.

1015
01:37:17,710 --> 01:37:29,510
And we're letting you know this, so if it happens again, there may be some accountability on your end that's coming whether it's going to be criminal charges, lawsuits from other people involved or fines from us.

1016
01:37:30,950 --> 01:37:43,450
And again, just any sort of education that we can include the families in, we will be doing a voluntary course that our officers will be teaching that will be specifically kind of designed for the writers and their parents.

1017
01:37:43,450 --> 01:37:50,430
because, again, just reaching that parent aspect has been difficult for us so far and we need to catch up on that.

1018
01:37:54,340 --> 01:37:56,280
Again, kind of just a list of things that we have already done.

1019
01:37:56,420 --> 01:37:59,800
We have done the increased direct enforcement, like I said, we've done 10 operations.

1020
01:38:00,640 --> 01:38:04,360
We are using data-driven deployment to address the hotspots, which we've shown.

1021
01:38:04,680 --> 01:38:08,500
So, you know, if I have to pick a group of officers to go to one location,

1022
01:38:08,560 --> 01:38:11,620
I'm going to be looking at the data to where we're having the largest problems.

1023
01:38:12,420 --> 01:38:18,760
I think probably the most important one on here is it's the next one, the school-based education and the certification program.

1024
01:38:19,140 --> 01:38:22,700
That's where we're going to teach kids how to ride responsibly and safe.

1025
01:38:23,540 --> 01:38:30,780
Expanded public outreach, the parent advisement is new, and I think once we are able to put some real accountability into the parents,

1026
01:38:30,900 --> 01:38:36,320
and the word gets out that things are going to be on them, many have seen in Orange County.

1027
01:38:36,880 --> 01:38:39,760
There's been several high-profile criminal charges against parents

1028
01:38:40,680 --> 01:38:44,960
to where they could potentially be looking at prison terms if they found guilty.

1029
01:38:45,380 --> 01:38:46,780
It's not just a citation anymore.

1030
01:38:47,060 --> 01:38:51,100
The Orange County is looking to put parents that are negligent in jail.

1031
01:38:56,040 --> 01:38:57,680
Things that we're looking to do for the future.

1032
01:38:58,780 --> 01:39:01,800
Again, this expanding municipal code, which I'll be touching on in a second.

1033
01:39:03,200 --> 01:39:05,300
For us, that is big for us.

1034
01:39:06,040 --> 01:39:10,420
It just gives us another tool to utilize, to be able to contact riders.

1035
01:39:10,420 --> 01:39:18,820
and again, either issue a citation or offer some education with warnings and just meet up with them and talk to them to advise them what they shouldn't should not be doing.

1036
01:39:20,280 --> 01:39:26,920
Enhanced enforcement strategies, we have had to get creative with how we contact these writers and these kids.

1037
01:39:27,540 --> 01:39:33,100
Many of the time, they don't simply stop refining as normal drivers do.

1038
01:39:33,560 --> 01:39:39,140
When we turn on our lights and sirens, they take off, it's a joke, the phones come out and they start making videos.

1039
01:39:39,140 --> 01:39:45,480
and they're off, and so we've had to adapt, which we have, and I'll leave it at that.

1040
01:39:47,160 --> 01:39:50,760
Expanding the school partnership, again, we started with the certification program

1041
01:39:50,760 --> 01:39:55,080
and the education classes we're giving, we're always going to be willing to talk

1042
01:39:55,080 --> 01:39:59,740
and discuss with the district on anything else that any ideas that they may have or we may collaborate with.

1043
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:26,020
And we're open to whatever we think is going to help. We're going to continue with our social media and educating the public as much as we can. And again, using data. If you're not using data now in law enforcement or public safety, you're kind of all in behind. So our overall goal is not to prevent kids from enjoying their ebikes. We want them to be outside. We want them to be having fun. They're a great form of transportation when used appropriately and responsibly.

1044
01:40:26,020 --> 01:40:32,360
We want them to enjoy them safely, responsibly, and while protecting writers, pedestrians, and motorists in our entire community.

1045
01:40:33,020 --> 01:40:40,000
It's about safety, responsibility, and making sure everybody kits to and from where they want to go, and they make it home safely every night.

1046
01:40:41,260 --> 01:40:47,240
And as you've seen, if you've been following the news, we have had some horrific accidents in this region.

1047
01:40:48,580 --> 01:40:53,080
Our city next to us, Menophe, and then San Diego's recently had some, and also Riverside.

1048
01:40:53,080 --> 01:40:54,960
Chief, am I an interject for a second?

1049
01:40:55,140 --> 01:40:55,460
Absolutely.

1050
01:40:56,780 --> 01:41:02,720
Everything you're saying, there's like a two things going on, right?

1051
01:41:02,940 --> 01:41:08,600
And the e-bike, the pedal of the class 2s aren't the ones running from you guys and

1052
01:41:08,600 --> 01:41:13,240
out of control, able to evade any type of deterrence, right?

1053
01:41:13,500 --> 01:41:16,560
It truly is the e-motor cycle class that is moving out.

1054
01:41:16,560 --> 01:41:17,500
I would not say entirely.

1055
01:41:18,060 --> 01:41:21,560
We're definitely getting kids on the road.

1056
01:41:21,560 --> 01:41:23,400
But they must be modded, I guess, then, or something.

1057
01:41:23,800 --> 01:41:28,700
They're either modded or just like when we were growing up,

1058
01:41:28,840 --> 01:41:29,500
we knew where to go.

1059
01:41:30,000 --> 01:41:31,220
We knew the alleys to run down.

1060
01:41:31,340 --> 01:41:33,480
We knew the trails to go on to where the police couldn't follow us.

1061
01:41:33,760 --> 01:41:36,220
We knew how to get away, and they do, too.

1062
01:41:36,360 --> 01:41:38,900
So even at 28 miles an hour or 20 miles an hour,

1063
01:41:39,520 --> 01:41:42,440
if I know where to go and I can make that decision quick

1064
01:41:42,440 --> 01:41:45,820
and I know I can't be followed, we're going into trails

1065
01:41:45,820 --> 01:41:50,340
and things like that, washes, and yeah, we're seeing it all.

1066
01:41:50,340 --> 01:41:52,080
All right, I'm sorry, continue.

1067
01:41:52,680 --> 01:42:01,240
All right, so with the municipal ordinance, we've working with our city attorney on to update it and kind of evolve with what we're seeing.

1068
01:42:02,500 --> 01:42:10,200
Without going over all of them because there are quite a few, this is a list and I can answer any questions on it and specifically that you might have in more detail.

1069
01:42:10,840 --> 01:42:14,300
But these are what we have existing and then what we're proposing.

1070
01:42:14,920 --> 01:42:26,980
Some of the main ones we talk about sidewalks, I think even sidewalk was brought up yesterday during our conversation is they are allowed to be on sidewalks, but we are looking to put speed limits based on the conditions.

1071
01:42:27,600 --> 01:42:35,720
So when there are pedestrians present, we would prefer them down to about five miles an hour and then on a sidewalk regularly 10 miles an hour.

1072
01:42:37,260 --> 01:42:45,500
Again, the parental accountability we're looking at, on repeat violations, we're looking to possibly cite parents, along with their children.

1073
01:42:48,290 --> 01:42:53,850
Divergent program, we know you might make a bad decision once.

1074
01:42:54,950 --> 01:43:04,350
So just like traffic school, we're going to offer a diversion program for those first time offenders to wear them and their parents, because again, we're dragging parents along every way we can.

1075
01:43:04,350 --> 01:43:10,610
Again, it's going to be up to them, so not required, but voluntarily attend a course taught

1076
01:43:10,610 --> 01:43:15,350
by our officers at the PD to go over, again, laws and rider safety.

1077
01:43:15,910 --> 01:43:19,990
And if that's done, then we will get rid of the citation for them.

1078
01:43:21,470 --> 01:43:25,390
But again, as you can see, there's quite a few here, so at the end, if there's anything

1079
01:43:25,390 --> 01:43:27,850
specific, I can go in a little more detail about them.

1080
01:43:30,830 --> 01:43:36,570
RUHS, Riverside University Health System recently released some data and this is what I would

1081
01:43:36,570 --> 01:43:37,570
really like to share with you.

1082
01:43:38,030 --> 01:43:43,170
So for 2025, this chart that you see up here right now depicts emergency room visits.

1083
01:43:43,390 --> 01:43:47,650
When I spoke earlier about the amount of collisions that we've had and thought I thought it was

1084
01:43:47,650 --> 01:43:52,450
a low number, that's because we're seeing actually a higher number at RERs.

1085
01:43:53,110 --> 01:43:57,750
So not everybody is having an officer respond and take a report.

1086
01:43:57,750 --> 01:44:02,630
So as you can see out of all the cities listed here in Riverside County in 2025,

1087
01:44:03,210 --> 01:44:08,290
if you can't see the writing, the largest bar is ours.

1088
01:44:08,910 --> 01:44:09,410
That's myriata.

1089
01:44:10,010 --> 01:44:12,730
Next to it is Tamacola, very similar like cities.

1090
01:44:13,290 --> 01:44:17,930
As you can see, not only are we in the lead, we're leading a lot of cities by a lot.

1091
01:44:18,670 --> 01:44:22,070
So it is a real problem for us here in our city.

1092
01:44:23,350 --> 01:44:29,270
Even a city like the size of Riverside which is 320, 330,000 people, we have 30 more.

1093
01:44:34,660 --> 01:44:36,380
Who is going to the ER?

1094
01:44:36,920 --> 01:44:41,560
Unfortunately, it's the age group of 10 to 14 as you can see our most.

1095
01:44:42,220 --> 01:44:49,140
And then you can bring it up to 15 to 24, but I can tell you just from experience that it's more 15, 16, 17.

1096
01:44:49,300 --> 01:44:54,900
So I would say between 10 and 17 is where our vast majority of ER visits are going.

1097
01:44:56,840 --> 01:44:59,720
As I just between the 10 and 14, we're looking at 335.

1098
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:02,760
I have kids that ended up in the ER, because they view bikes.

1099
01:45:08,380 --> 01:45:34,680
This graph is going to show you the exponential growth of e-bikes. In 2021, that's how many people went to the emergency room. Very, very, very few. We've had a 25 times increase just in five years, as you can see in 2026, and not just 2026, but just to July, obviously, because we just hit September. So seven months of the year, we are already at over a thousand years.

1100
01:45:34,680 --> 01:45:38,300
on ER visits, compared to what we were in 2021,

1101
01:45:38,380 --> 01:45:40,060
which barely shows.

1102
01:45:40,800 --> 01:45:42,880
The gap, as I said, we've gotten busy

1103
01:45:42,880 --> 01:45:44,240
in the last year, year and a half.

1104
01:45:44,460 --> 01:45:45,420
As you can see in 2024,

1105
01:45:46,320 --> 01:45:48,560
we were somewhere around the 500 mark,

1106
01:45:48,800 --> 01:45:50,640
and we've doubled that in a year and a half.

1107
01:45:52,020 --> 01:45:55,060
I'm sorry, 105% from 24 to 25.

1108
01:45:57,260 --> 01:45:58,160
So by the end of the year,

1109
01:45:58,280 --> 01:46:00,820
that number will be considerably more.

1110
01:46:04,760 --> 01:46:06,360
As it breaks out, there's a male to female.

1111
01:46:06,360 --> 01:46:12,840
obviously boys do a lot more dumb things and this chart just kind of shows that to

1112
01:46:12,840 --> 01:46:20,540
where it's it's again we're not the best riders and the different types of

1113
01:46:20,540 --> 01:46:24,680
injuries fortunately a lot of the injuries are just going to be the superficial

1114
01:46:24,680 --> 01:46:29,400
you're falling down scraping you know maybe some scratches a little bit a little

1115
01:46:29,400 --> 01:46:33,060
bit of cuts but with that if you look at some of the other ones there are

1116
01:46:33,060 --> 01:46:36,620
major wounds or fractures or compound fractures open wounds traumatic brain

1117
01:46:36,620 --> 01:46:38,860
and injury and pretty dislocation.

1118
01:46:39,180 --> 01:46:42,080
So you're falling off a bike at a high speed

1119
01:46:42,080 --> 01:46:44,500
or you're being struck by a vehicle while on a bike.

1120
01:46:45,640 --> 01:46:48,360
You're pretty much guaranteed some sort of injury.

1121
01:46:53,760 --> 01:46:54,680
Overall, what's a big picture?

1122
01:46:55,300 --> 01:46:57,540
Again, we're not here to ruin everybody's fun

1123
01:46:57,540 --> 01:46:58,900
and not allow people to ride.

1124
01:46:59,300 --> 01:47:02,540
We want people to ride safe and responsibly

1125
01:47:02,960 --> 01:47:06,020
and not interfere with our commuters and our city.

1126
01:47:06,540 --> 01:47:07,760
So we're here to protect the riders,

1127
01:47:07,760 --> 01:47:10,000
the pedestrians and the motorists

1128
01:47:10,000 --> 01:47:12,220
and really just anybody that's commuting through our city.

1129
01:47:12,960 --> 01:47:22,480
We want to prevent the accountability, either enforcement or with the parents unsafe behavior to stop collisions and again stop serious bodily injury.

1130
01:47:23,060 --> 01:47:25,940
And to promote responsible riding and respect our roadways.

1131
01:47:26,680 --> 01:47:37,980
Unfortunately with what we're seeing is, oftentimes they form groups, there's 3, 4, 5, 10, 15, 20 riders.

1132
01:47:37,980 --> 01:47:44,600
and they have been really just taking over our streets on cowloafs and Madison and interfering with traffic,

1133
01:47:45,080 --> 01:47:50,340
causing accidents that they might not be involved in, but they're causing other motorists to run into each other.

1134
01:47:51,240 --> 01:47:53,940
Again, so we're just trying to promote responsible or unsafe riding.

1135
01:47:56,940 --> 01:48:00,620
And that is the end of the presentation, so I can answer any sort of questions you guys may have.

1136
01:48:01,440 --> 01:48:07,400
Great presentation. Thank you Chief for staying on top of a very fastly evolving topic.

1137
01:48:07,400 --> 01:48:15,640
I mean, it seems like everything we do to mitigate the bikes get faster, or better, or create another thing to think about.

1138
01:48:16,240 --> 01:48:19,100
So bring it back up to colleagues for questions, Mr. Holiday.

1139
01:48:20,160 --> 01:48:20,560
Thank you, Mayor.

1140
01:48:21,380 --> 01:48:22,860
Great presentation, thank you, Chief.

1141
01:48:24,940 --> 01:48:32,080
As the mayor said, it is growing and ongoing problem, and we definitely need to stay on top of it.

1142
01:48:32,160 --> 01:48:37,380
It's easier to be on top of a problem than it is to try and fix it after it's gotten out of control.

1143
01:48:38,220 --> 01:48:40,280
not that it's not going that way.

1144
01:48:41,140 --> 01:48:43,820
A couple of questions on your comments.

1145
01:48:43,980 --> 01:48:45,420
You were just talking about Orange County

1146
01:48:45,420 --> 01:48:47,360
that parents were being jailed?

1147
01:48:48,060 --> 01:48:49,900
Yeah, there being a criminally charged.

1148
01:48:50,400 --> 01:48:54,080
The two cases I can speak of specifically is one.

1149
01:48:55,640 --> 01:48:57,960
The bike was modified by the parent.

1150
01:48:58,560 --> 01:49:01,360
So you took an e-bike that was legal.

1151
01:49:01,980 --> 01:49:04,260
You know, capped out at probably 20 miles an hour.

1152
01:49:04,800 --> 01:49:07,360
Modified it and basically turns it into an e-bike.

1153
01:49:07,360 --> 01:49:13,500
motor that can go in its speeds of excess of 50 miles an hour, 12-year-old slammed into

1154
01:49:13,500 --> 01:49:17,580
the side of a car, injured himself, and I believe the father was charged criminally.

1155
01:49:18,100 --> 01:49:24,420
And then another mother was charged after, I think, it caused the fatality, the passenger

1156
01:49:24,420 --> 01:49:25,800
and it was bitch.

1157
01:49:26,140 --> 01:49:29,360
She'd kind of already been warned like we're saying with the advisement form.

1158
01:49:29,900 --> 01:49:34,560
You're put on notice of, if you need to have some accountability and be responsible for

1159
01:49:34,560 --> 01:49:35,920
this and you're not.

1160
01:49:36,380 --> 01:49:41,880
So, these jail sentences were from existing laws that are in place like child endangerments?

1161
01:49:41,880 --> 01:49:43,100
Yes, they're going on child.

1162
01:49:43,300 --> 01:49:47,020
They're not from some ordinance that orange did.

1163
01:49:47,520 --> 01:49:48,140
Correct, okay.

1164
01:49:48,240 --> 01:49:49,160
Regular penal code sections.

1165
01:49:49,580 --> 01:49:49,780
Okay.

1166
01:49:50,060 --> 01:49:54,920
If I could add, the DA has charged these parents, but no one's plead or been sentenced yet.

1167
01:49:55,520 --> 01:49:57,560
So, we don't know yet what a court will do with it.

1168
01:49:57,720 --> 01:49:57,820
Okay.

1169
01:49:57,820 --> 01:49:59,960
but they're the point I wanted to-

1170
01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:06,340
Make is that they're not due to a local ordinance or due to existing state or federal law. Correct. Okay.

1171
01:50:08,700 --> 01:50:29,560
Has, and I'm not, I'm not saying I advocate for this. I'm just curious, have you looked into the possibility of requiring a license for any age, particular age? Is that even possible? I'll let our city attorney give the exact answer, but I'm going to say probably not. I think, you know, license are regulated by the state. I don't think we could interfere with the DMV, but.

1172
01:50:32,600 --> 01:50:42,480
And then you're talking about specific speeds for different areas like sidewalks or parks or different things.

1173
01:50:42,720 --> 01:50:43,980
Do these have a speedometer?

1174
01:50:44,560 --> 01:50:45,320
Some do.

1175
01:50:45,660 --> 01:50:46,100
Some do.

1176
01:50:46,560 --> 01:50:47,940
The class three, I know do.

1177
01:50:48,660 --> 01:50:53,500
And I believe the ones and twos might come with, you know, an attachment or a...

1178
01:50:53,500 --> 01:50:55,120
Most of the newer ones app do.

1179
01:50:55,120 --> 01:50:57,640
It's really only the low grade, month and year or less.

1180
01:50:58,140 --> 01:51:00,320
I mean, you hardly seen it, but I think most do.

1181
01:51:00,940 --> 01:51:01,700
Okay, thank you.

1182
01:51:02,480 --> 01:51:05,520
And my last question is, what is the fine structure?

1183
01:51:06,500 --> 01:51:09,280
I mean, it's our regular municipal code fine structure,

1184
01:51:09,440 --> 01:51:11,160
which is 100, 200 and 500.

1185
01:51:11,480 --> 01:51:13,880
So, first, second, and third, and anything after that.

1186
01:51:14,320 --> 01:51:16,420
Within a 12-month period.

1187
01:51:16,940 --> 01:51:21,240
And that fine is applied to the parent through the juvenile?

1188
01:51:21,240 --> 01:51:21,300
No?

1189
01:51:22,900 --> 01:51:25,360
The citation is initially going to go too well.

1190
01:51:25,600 --> 01:51:28,100
If it's reciting the writer, it goes to the writer.

1191
01:51:28,840 --> 01:51:33,060
I would be guessing on how that is collected or assigned.

1192
01:51:34,020 --> 01:51:40,240
But the goal is, is obviously that they take the choice of not being fined and going through the safety course.

1193
01:51:40,400 --> 01:51:40,640
Absolutely.

1194
01:51:41,240 --> 01:51:42,960
And then not having a second offense.

1195
01:51:43,560 --> 01:51:44,260
That's the goal.

1196
01:51:44,540 --> 01:51:45,120
That's the goal.

1197
01:51:47,860 --> 01:51:48,800
Oh, is there an impound fee?

1198
01:51:49,820 --> 01:51:54,660
Yeah, if it is impounded, then you're going to go through the normal impound fees that you would for a vehicle.

1199
01:51:54,860 --> 01:51:55,760
Do you know what that is?

1200
01:51:56,080 --> 01:51:56,380
I do not.

1201
01:51:57,040 --> 01:51:58,220
That's got to be more in the fine.

1202
01:51:58,820 --> 01:51:59,820
It's got to be more in the fine.

1203
01:52:00,320 --> 01:52:03,660
I've heard sub parents talk about upwards of $2,000.

1204
01:52:04,300 --> 01:52:08,580
Yeah, just like if you're a vehicle, if you don't get it quickly, you're going to get charged each day.

1205
01:52:09,140 --> 01:52:17,400
And I've heard, I don't know, I have no factual knowledge of the truth of this, but I've heard that there have been

1206
01:52:17,400 --> 01:52:23,350
and serons and other illegal likes that have been impounded.

1207
01:52:24,310 --> 01:52:29,110
And then within a matter of weeks, they're impounded again because the parent has gotten

1208
01:52:29,110 --> 01:52:32,650
them out of impound, given them back to the kid, and the kid is doing the same thing.

1209
01:52:33,050 --> 01:52:33,370
Absolutely.

1210
01:52:34,650 --> 01:52:37,790
Is this ordinance going to help with that?

1211
01:52:38,470 --> 01:52:43,710
Well, it does add some impounding, but again, if they're able to legally come and get, well,

1212
01:52:44,170 --> 01:52:48,470
I guess there's different routes, if they can come and get their bike, just like a vehicle

1213
01:52:48,470 --> 01:52:53,690
the motorcycle then they can legally come and do that. But now we're getting into what we're looking

1214
01:52:53,690 --> 01:53:00,890
on the accountability aspect as if a parent is knowingly allowing their child to go out and

1215
01:53:00,890 --> 01:53:06,210
repeatedly ride illegally that we are now able to hold them accountable. That's part of the new

1216
01:53:06,770 --> 01:53:12,290
the new ordinance. Okay, great. Thank you very much. Yeah, but a significant part of the ordinance is

1217
01:53:12,290 --> 01:53:13,470
is the parent accountability?

1218
01:53:14,430 --> 01:53:15,610
Thank you very much.

1219
01:53:16,670 --> 01:53:17,230
Councilor Warren.

1220
01:53:17,690 --> 01:53:18,210
Thank you, Mayor.

1221
01:53:18,430 --> 01:53:20,730
Thank you, Mayor Prokhan, for those questions.

1222
01:53:21,470 --> 01:53:24,810
I do have several questions I would like to have some clarification on.

1223
01:53:25,350 --> 01:53:31,910
First of all, what measures were taken to all the parents to let them know that this is a problem

1224
01:53:31,910 --> 01:53:33,950
and what the differences are the bikes.

1225
01:53:34,070 --> 01:53:36,090
Did the school stand a letter out to all the parents?

1226
01:53:36,630 --> 01:53:39,110
How was, how was this addressed to all the parents?

1227
01:53:40,090 --> 01:53:40,970
Which part of it?

1228
01:53:40,970 --> 01:53:51,550
Okay, so we're going to institute a new policy, they can't come to school with their bikes without going through a certification class and getting a sticker that allows them to have their bikes.

1229
01:53:51,910 --> 01:53:55,870
How did that get just sent out to all of the families in our school?

1230
01:53:56,010 --> 01:54:00,950
I know there is a document that the school district created that does need to be signed by the current.

1231
01:54:01,610 --> 01:54:03,110
Okay, very similar to a parking permit.

1232
01:54:03,390 --> 01:54:03,570
Okay.

1233
01:54:05,170 --> 01:54:11,710
I got several text messages and emails with my own daughter about that same thing on the daily, it seemed.

1234
01:54:11,950 --> 01:54:14,130
Okay, I don't know, so that's why I am asking.

1235
01:54:14,930 --> 01:54:20,070
What happens when a child decides not to follow the rules, which is part of the problem right now,

1236
01:54:20,430 --> 01:54:23,450
and they write their e-bikes to school, and they don't have a sticker on them?

1237
01:54:23,530 --> 01:54:25,670
Do you go and impound them, or do you call the parents?

1238
01:54:25,990 --> 01:54:27,430
Do they call the parents to have them picked up?

1239
01:54:27,690 --> 01:54:29,370
They don't get to write them back home, or do they?

1240
01:54:29,510 --> 01:54:32,090
Well, that's the between them and the school district.

1241
01:54:32,090 --> 01:54:35,890
Okay, it's their policy to not get them on the campus, not our policy.

1242
01:54:36,030 --> 01:54:36,750
Okay, that's fine.

1243
01:54:36,950 --> 01:54:38,010
I just wanted to know.

1244
01:54:40,090 --> 01:54:44,790
Is there an age limit for children to be able to ride these bikes to and from school?

1245
01:54:45,310 --> 01:54:46,610
A grade level or an age limit?

1246
01:54:46,990 --> 01:54:48,230
No, not in our city.

1247
01:54:48,430 --> 01:54:49,170
Not in our city?

1248
01:54:49,230 --> 01:54:49,350
No.

1249
01:54:49,550 --> 01:54:49,750
Okay.

1250
01:54:49,870 --> 01:54:51,530
You might see it in San Diego County.

1251
01:54:51,610 --> 01:54:52,450
They have a couple cities.

1252
01:54:53,110 --> 01:54:57,450
And again, I can rely on our city attorney to explain how or the why, but they're able to.

1253
01:54:58,470 --> 01:54:59,370
under some sort of stuff.

1254
01:54:59,490 --> 01:54:59,970
Yeah, I can see.

1255
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:29,800
There was a special legislation creating a pilot program just for San Diego County. And that prohibits anyone under 12 riding any bike, but right now it only applies in San Diego. Okay. All right. There is for class three is a 16 year old or 16 years old. They need a motor vehicle license. That's a beautiful. A California vehicle, not on the class. I'm sorry. The class three is at an M1 they have to have or is it just a? Well, they're off road anyway. So you wouldn't have an M1. They're not street legal to begin with.

1256
01:55:30,380 --> 01:55:38,080
How is our department handling multiple riders on one bike and those not wearing helmets, adult or juvenile?

1257
01:55:38,420 --> 01:55:40,180
That's all part of the ordinances that we're having.

1258
01:55:40,580 --> 01:55:46,820
So we're going to build in, I personally don't think the citations are high enough, did you tour this?

1259
01:55:47,320 --> 01:55:53,020
And that's my personal opinion, I think sometimes you really need to hit them in the wallet in order to get someone to pay attention.

1260
01:55:53,020 --> 01:55:56,660
I'm not saying that's the best process, but I'm just saying maybe these are very low.

1261
01:55:57,080 --> 01:56:02,120
Maybe we can see some data on that down the road to see if that really is stopping some

1262
01:56:02,120 --> 01:56:02,460
of this.

1263
01:56:03,140 --> 01:56:07,020
My last item is adults are making mistakes too.

1264
01:56:08,640 --> 01:56:14,340
I have witnessed personally several adults riding young toddlers on the handlebars in the

1265
01:56:14,340 --> 01:56:19,680
front of their bikes, no helmets, no nothing, how do we get the word out to everybody?

1266
01:56:20,140 --> 01:56:21,680
I mean, we really need to do something.

1267
01:56:21,680 --> 01:56:29,400
So we're trying, I mean we, I'm not going to say we rely entirely on social media because we know not everybody's on social media.

1268
01:56:30,720 --> 01:56:31,740
But that's one way of doing.

1269
01:56:31,880 --> 01:56:40,740
We've done several week long social media campaigns for the laws and within new ordinance we will again launch a couple more social media campaigns.

1270
01:56:41,400 --> 01:56:44,780
And again, it's just community outreach whenever we can possibly do it.

1271
01:56:44,780 --> 01:56:49,480
meetings, even if it's smaller large, I guess you know, we had 12 to 14 writers.

1272
01:56:49,480 --> 01:56:53,420
Well, that's 12 to 14 writers that didn't know before they walked through the door.

1273
01:56:53,760 --> 01:56:53,900
Okay.

1274
01:56:53,980 --> 01:57:02,620
And now they do, and they were responsible enough and polite enough to show up and listen to where I do believe that they will go to their friends in relay.

1275
01:57:02,920 --> 01:57:07,900
Maybe not the entire message, but parts of our message that we gave them, I think they will.

1276
01:57:08,380 --> 01:57:12,380
Have you had a, have you had a positive response from the parents on this?

1277
01:57:13,120 --> 01:57:14,700
It depends on which ones you're talking to.

1278
01:57:15,340 --> 01:57:15,600
Obviously.

1279
01:57:16,000 --> 01:57:20,480
We still run into quite a few, why are you messing with my kid?

1280
01:57:20,640 --> 01:57:22,560
Would you rather have him playing video games inside?

1281
01:57:23,680 --> 01:57:26,300
Well, compared to writing into the side of an F250,

1282
01:57:26,760 --> 01:57:28,520
yeah, I'd rather have them on video games.

1283
01:57:29,140 --> 01:57:31,720
So unless we can get that accountability aspect

1284
01:57:31,720 --> 01:57:33,960
and the responsible writing, yeah,

1285
01:57:34,080 --> 01:57:35,440
might be a little safer for your child

1286
01:57:35,440 --> 01:57:37,940
if that's the one that we're coming to you about.

1287
01:57:38,460 --> 01:57:39,980
And would you agree with this statement

1288
01:57:39,980 --> 01:57:44,220
that it's not just the riders that are at risk here.

1289
01:57:44,340 --> 01:57:50,100
It's also the drivers of the cars because they are causing drivers to react in a way

1290
01:57:50,100 --> 01:57:53,860
that they are not used to and causing more problems out on our roads.

1291
01:57:53,860 --> 01:57:54,380
Is that correct?

1292
01:57:54,760 --> 01:57:55,080
Absolutely.

1293
01:57:55,440 --> 01:57:55,560
Okay.

1294
01:57:55,940 --> 01:57:56,560
Thank you very much.

1295
01:57:56,640 --> 01:57:57,520
I appreciate your presentation.

1296
01:57:58,480 --> 01:57:59,120
Thank you.

1297
01:57:59,360 --> 01:58:00,280
A couple more for us.

1298
01:58:01,460 --> 01:58:02,080
Thank you, Mayor.

1299
01:58:02,860 --> 01:58:07,600
Thank you for the great presentation and trying to keep our community safer because we

1300
01:58:07,600 --> 01:58:09,120
We do know that it's definitely an issue.

1301
01:58:10,100 --> 01:58:11,700
So I just have a couple questions.

1302
01:58:12,260 --> 01:58:16,960
So several patients came into the office and said that they had signed the waiver and

1303
01:58:16,960 --> 01:58:18,420
the paper, but they didn't get a sticker.

1304
01:58:18,980 --> 01:58:23,780
And that the school district wasn't issuing stickers, and that was at Vista and at Mesa.

1305
01:58:24,560 --> 01:58:29,740
So we can follow up with the district, but they're entirely tracking that.

1306
01:58:29,820 --> 01:58:31,240
We're not a part of that.

1307
01:58:31,480 --> 01:58:34,800
Minus the educational part, the police department isn't.

1308
01:58:34,800 --> 01:58:42,380
So do we have a school resource officer at each school, so could we not utilize that a little bit more for

1309
01:58:43,960 --> 01:58:45,540
making sure that we get

1310
01:58:46,420 --> 01:58:53,120
community outreach to those kids and have our school resource officer engage in this conversation?

1311
01:58:53,620 --> 01:58:57,380
Absolutely, yeah, they're right now, they're meeting them at the lockups or the

1312
01:58:58,580 --> 01:59:04,740
parking lots for like the racks, the racks, trying to, again, it's all new, so it still kind of

1313
01:59:04,740 --> 01:59:09,120
in motion. We just started the educational portion of it. So whether the

1314
01:59:09,120 --> 01:59:14,760
stickers are coming, they should be. And that should be part of it. And if

1315
01:59:14,760 --> 01:59:17,940
they haven't got it yet, or within a couple weeks, I would advise in the

1316
01:59:17,940 --> 01:59:21,300
follow up with the school because there'll be the ones actually issuing the

1317
01:59:21,300 --> 01:59:22,520
sticker. Okay.

1318
01:59:25,280 --> 01:59:32,870
So how are we in, you know, so we'll pass this new ordinance, but

1319
01:59:32,870 --> 01:59:39,910
But how are we going to up the enforcement of the ordinance for one, especially when motorized vehicles aren't allowed in our parks anyway?

1320
01:59:40,570 --> 01:59:49,610
So now we have them in our parks, but do we have a sign saying we are working on signage actually with municipal services?

1321
01:59:50,170 --> 01:59:55,410
But I believe parks are off limits and not allowed in parks, but we are working on signage.

1322
01:59:55,490 --> 01:59:59,430
They're currently not allowed there either, so you know that has not changed.

1323
01:59:59,430 --> 01:59:59,970
Yeah, we just

1324
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:29,760
We discussed with the MSD, the design of those signs, and we're working on getting good signs that are visible to everybody that's coming. Because kids can say they didn't know, right? I mean, how do we have these young kids as young as like 12, 11, whatever? How do they even know who has a right away? A pedestrian or, I mean, that's the problem they don't. Right, so how are we going to get that knowledge to them? We can pass every ordinance in the world, but until we, you know, that that's where we're relying on the engagement.

1325
02:00:29,760 --> 02:00:31,640
in the education aspect of it with the schools.

1326
02:00:31,780 --> 02:00:33,980
Like I said, with the school specifically,

1327
02:00:34,120 --> 02:00:35,480
before they do get their stickers,

1328
02:00:36,000 --> 02:00:39,140
they're sitting through an education course taught by our officers.

1329
02:00:39,720 --> 02:00:45,360
Is it we've hit 450 students within the last week and a half?

1330
02:00:45,540 --> 02:00:47,380
Okay, okay, great, thanks for that.

1331
02:00:49,120 --> 02:00:52,220
So is there going to be part of this ordinance that says,

1332
02:00:52,580 --> 02:00:54,240
you can't have a number of bikes together?

1333
02:00:54,580 --> 02:00:57,500
I mean, yes, that is one of the sections.

1334
02:00:57,500 --> 02:01:02,660
Okay, because it does seem like especially at Ralph's and that's my

1335
02:01:03,340 --> 02:01:08,520
District and I get emails once a week about that and pictures and you know, it seems

1336
02:01:09,100 --> 02:01:16,080
Yeah, that is one of the updated one of the new ones. Okay. Thank you for that. Is there a possibility we could do an age change

1337
02:01:16,080 --> 02:01:19,080
But you already answered that question with San Diego doing that

1338
02:01:19,080 --> 02:01:25,160
Yeah, and our fines are a hundred two hundred and five hundred. Yeah, those are outlined in our municipal code

1339
02:01:25,160 --> 02:01:32,820
Okay. So, what are the percentages of a e-biker that would even get to a $200 fine?

1340
02:01:33,120 --> 02:01:35,980
I mean, they get the first one, they'll get a warning, their parents will get known,

1341
02:01:36,160 --> 02:01:41,360
they go to a class. And, I mean, what are the percentages of them getting further down

1342
02:01:41,360 --> 02:01:44,480
the fine scale? I mean, do you have any statistics on that?

1343
02:01:45,020 --> 02:01:46,000
No, not, not, not, not, not, shit.

1344
02:01:46,180 --> 02:01:47,440
Okay. All right.

1345
02:01:51,360 --> 02:01:55,980
And, just the fact that I do believe that we need to step up our signage

1346
02:01:55,980 --> 02:02:00,380
And we need to give people notice that we do have this new ordinance.

1347
02:02:00,760 --> 02:02:05,640
And I know I love myriad of PD and all the information that they do disseminate on Facebook.

1348
02:02:06,120 --> 02:02:08,580
But I know that the youth don't think Facebook's cool.

1349
02:02:09,040 --> 02:02:11,720
Yeah, that's why we have to rely on other things.

1350
02:02:11,820 --> 02:02:13,840
Yeah, they're looking elsewhere.

1351
02:02:13,840 --> 02:02:17,760
So I appreciate that our school resource offices are engaging with this as well.

1352
02:02:18,860 --> 02:02:25,420
And just to kind of, I was trying to figure out how great are you in as a 12-year-old?

1353
02:02:25,420 --> 02:02:31,260
you're in sixth grade. You don't really have, you know, you can barely make it to school.

1354
02:02:31,440 --> 02:02:34,860
I think they're still pinning things on us to take back to our parents in sixth grade sometimes.

1355
02:02:35,160 --> 02:02:41,660
So I just think that age and San Diego thing might have something going and we could,

1356
02:02:42,020 --> 02:02:47,320
maybe that ordinance will be able to play out here too. So thank you for the time.

1357
02:02:47,500 --> 02:02:51,000
I appreciate all you're answering all those questions. I know this is such a hot subject.

1358
02:02:51,140 --> 02:02:54,820
You probably don't want to hear about it anymore. And you just wanted to go away and everybody

1359
02:02:54,820 --> 02:02:58,980
ready to ride safely. So thank you for all your time and thank you, Mayor.

1360
02:02:59,440 --> 02:03:08,620
You're welcome. Thank you. I've got to ask the question. The bike gang, the number of bikes involved.

1361
02:03:08,800 --> 02:03:11,540
Would that also apply to the spandex, guys?

1362
02:03:14,400 --> 02:03:15,460
That would, okay.

1363
02:03:15,700 --> 02:03:21,000
It applies to anyone on a bike. Okay. I think that's fair.

1364
02:03:25,020 --> 02:03:38,160
all the same. No, that's a close-course race. That's a different. The number, the parents fee

1365
02:03:38,160 --> 02:03:46,480
schedule for these impoundings, I think, personally, the more it happens, the more aggressive I would

1366
02:03:46,480 --> 02:03:53,480
I would press that as hard as I could because there is one time I think that you could claim I didn't know I'm sorry

1367
02:03:53,480 --> 02:04:01,060
I just I have a hard time crossing the bridge of a parent myself buying a $10,000 e-bike or you know upwards of you know

1368
02:04:01,060 --> 02:04:04,300
They started to and you go to fail 15 now

1369
02:04:05,180 --> 02:04:10,220
You're not aware of what you are doing. I just cannot get there

1370
02:04:10,800 --> 02:04:12,240
So that almost

1371
02:04:12,240 --> 02:04:17,800
most intentional ignorance, I think, is almost not forgivable in special in the second offense.

1372
02:04:18,080 --> 02:04:24,860
So if we could, I don't know if there's any thoughts of the fines are capped by state law.

1373
02:04:25,120 --> 02:04:25,600
Of course.

1374
02:04:26,060 --> 02:04:28,540
Yeah, they're in the penal code and they haven't been increased in decades.

1375
02:04:30,780 --> 02:04:32,040
Okay, that's unfortunate.

1376
02:04:32,500 --> 02:04:34,140
So is there any teeth?

1377
02:04:34,520 --> 02:04:38,060
Is there any teeth we can put other than fines in for the current state?

1378
02:04:39,560 --> 02:04:43,120
The state's working on it right now.

1379
02:04:43,120 --> 02:04:45,380
Can they impound the bike for a longer period of time?

1380
02:04:46,240 --> 02:04:47,540
No, I mean, is that property?

1381
02:04:47,720 --> 02:04:48,740
So they have a due process, right?

1382
02:04:48,980 --> 02:04:49,140
Okay.

1383
02:04:49,640 --> 02:04:55,740
I thought we could go more, like with vehicles, certain vehicle code sections for like a suspended

1384
02:04:55,740 --> 02:04:56,120
license.

1385
02:04:56,220 --> 02:04:59,960
We can do 38 toes or impounds, but that's a very specific-

1386
02:05:00,000 --> 02:05:08,080
Second, an outline in the vehicle code. Yeah. You know, this gets talked about a lot, deterrence, right?

1387
02:05:10,140 --> 02:05:29,760
I'll butcher this a little bit. But in the, when the riots happened in LA, they, I forget who enacted it, but in order to help deter the gang activity on the beach, they hired a bunch of really, really large police officers that were fit and looked scary to ride around quads.

1388
02:05:29,760 --> 02:05:36,240
all day and deter the gang, gangsters away. And it works. Have we thought about any type

1389
02:05:36,240 --> 02:05:43,120
of deterrents where, you know, if I know one of our guys used the ride monocross professionally,

1390
02:05:43,600 --> 02:05:48,840
I mean, it would take some, some arrogance to try and outrun him if he had the right equipment.

1391
02:05:49,900 --> 02:05:56,460
Not that I want to see any chase scenes on Channel 5, just knowing that he's, like if Travis was on

1392
02:05:56,460 --> 02:06:00,840
I don't, I probably bet on him.

1393
02:06:01,320 --> 02:06:05,620
Yeah, there's a lot of other aspects that go into that with doing it as a police officer,

1394
02:06:05,620 --> 02:06:10,700
whether it's the training, the certification course, how many officers do we have that,

1395
02:06:10,740 --> 02:06:15,420
that are capable of doing that and doing it in a way that is safe.

1396
02:06:16,180 --> 02:06:19,220
That's one thing to get on a mountain bike and roll through Calo's park.

1397
02:06:19,880 --> 02:06:23,080
It's a different thing for me to go to my group of officers and say,

1398
02:06:23,080 --> 02:06:28,900
who wants to go 60 miles an hour through our trails on an e-bike, on a sur on our e-mode or so.

1399
02:06:29,640 --> 02:06:29,780
Yeah.

1400
02:06:30,540 --> 02:06:38,780
The, the, we don't pursue speed, it's like vehicles, like how does, how does that work?

1401
02:06:38,940 --> 02:06:46,720
I mean, the officers who pursue criminals in a car, they have special training or they,

1402
02:06:46,720 --> 02:06:49,240
they get clearance for pursuits or how that...

1403
02:06:49,240 --> 02:06:54,260
Yeah, I mean, you're cleared to basically drive in a pursuit through the academy.

1404
02:06:54,440 --> 02:07:00,540
Once you hit the academy, then we have a biennial training for our emergency vehicle operations.

1405
02:07:00,800 --> 02:07:04,700
You know, any more biennial, but yeah, ongoing training, which certifies you,

1406
02:07:04,940 --> 02:07:08,300
you know, and covers you legally for being able to do a pursuit.

1407
02:07:08,640 --> 02:07:18,780
And not to touch a sore topic, but, you know, in the safety being paramount in this

1408
02:07:18,780 --> 02:07:25,220
discussion. The way you keep everyone safe is monitoring and if, you know, maybe our

1409
02:07:25,220 --> 02:07:29,000
flat cameras can pick up some of these kids and understand where they're going. I mean,

1410
02:07:29,140 --> 02:07:35,580
that keeps them, the kids running, they're going to crash and get hurt or die. The police

1411
02:07:35,580 --> 02:07:48,760
officers chasing them is going to want to make crash, get hurt significantly. We don't want

1412
02:07:52,760 --> 02:08:03,520
And then the option, I'm sorry, the impound, what happens if they get impounded enough that there's a $10,000 sur on sitting in there, do they auction it off and what happens right now?

1413
02:08:03,520 --> 02:08:13,260
Right now, we haven't, we haven't got to that point yet, but we do, when property, just like a vehicle, sometimes people just figure it's not worth getting their car out.

1414
02:08:13,860 --> 02:08:18,460
You can have it, and yeah, the tow yards, and we have a ways of auctioning.

1415
02:08:18,740 --> 02:08:20,680
Do we get proceeds from those types of situations?

1416
02:08:22,880 --> 02:08:24,360
I'd have to double check with the top three.

1417
02:08:24,360 --> 02:08:27,600
Can we get our cost reimbursement, don't they make money?

1418
02:08:28,020 --> 02:08:33,940
It'd be nice to have, let me just scrape off the e-bike and put that towards a program,

1419
02:08:34,140 --> 02:08:37,660
education, something, helmets for kids who need help buying helmets, whatever.

1420
02:08:39,660 --> 02:08:41,540
I would like to turn that around.

1421
02:08:41,540 --> 02:08:47,420
Under the California Constitution, you can only charge fees for the amount of the service that you're providing.

1422
02:08:48,200 --> 02:08:54,080
You can't, it'd be a tax to impose a fee that's collected for a different purpose.

1423
02:08:54,220 --> 02:08:58,520
Well, no, I'm saying when the bike is sitting in the impound line and no one picks it up because the fees are too much.

1424
02:08:58,540 --> 02:09:04,240
If it's never returned, who watches it, who gets the proceeds, and I say if it's hours, and we impound the bike.

1425
02:09:05,000 --> 02:09:08,000
Those proceeds should go to our program for e-bike safety or education.

1426
02:09:08,000 --> 02:09:19,480
Yeah, it's fair. I know some cities are even doing a I've seen the gun buybacks. They're actually going e by the e by bybacks towards parents have just kind of been like we didn't know.

1427
02:09:20,720 --> 02:09:32,860
And we would like to get rid of this. Wow. Yeah, that's kind of the next thing that I've seen the last two weeks. I was trying to think of another product that even was close to this type of like where you have something at the home that.

1428
02:09:32,860 --> 02:09:38,940
But is it supposed to be dangerous, but someone taking it, using for the wrong thing, ends up

1429
02:09:38,940 --> 02:09:40,040
becoming very dangerous?

1430
02:09:41,160 --> 02:09:42,120
Guns were right there, right?

1431
02:09:42,300 --> 02:09:48,040
I mean, they're great tools, and part of our second amendment right to have, and we should

1432
02:09:48,040 --> 02:09:49,760
be trained on them and use them appropriately.

1433
02:09:50,400 --> 02:09:51,200
Bikes are no different.

1434
02:09:51,400 --> 02:09:53,140
I mean, especially the heavy ones that weigh 150 pounds.

1435
02:09:53,340 --> 02:09:56,560
I mean, you could literally, people are literally dying because of the misuse of them.

1436
02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:29,200
More questions? I'll open up a public hearing now. Oh, everyone, Ms. Stone. Thank you. Madam City Attorney, can we put an age limit on e-bikes, since they are considered bicycles? And so my concern, which I have witnessed and this was discussed yesterday, is 10-year-olds. 10-year-olds to me.

1437
02:10:29,200 --> 02:10:35,300
I cannot imagine my 10-year-old at the time operating a motorized vehicle.

1438
02:10:35,620 --> 02:10:46,800
Are we allowed to identify an age of 13 and over to use an e-bike?

1439
02:10:47,080 --> 02:10:52,440
Or because they're considered a bicycle that any age can utilize an e-bike?

1440
02:10:52,860 --> 02:10:54,060
Right now we're not allowed to.

1441
02:10:54,120 --> 02:10:58,040
There's just that pilot program in San Diego but hopefully soon they'll expand that.

1442
02:10:58,040 --> 02:11:08,000
Okay. Great. I also loved seeing in the ordinance the use of cell phones because I have witnessed

1443
02:11:08,000 --> 02:11:18,380
cell phones with these kids riding the e-bikes. And as we know, just driving a vehicle, the law

1444
02:11:18,380 --> 02:11:25,500
is prohibiting us even at a stop sign. Matter of fact, I think I saw a little video on our

1445
02:11:25,500 --> 02:11:32,140
or Mary at a PD that somebody was sitting at a stop signal and using their phone and they got ticketed.

1446
02:11:32,440 --> 02:11:38,640
So I'm really, really glad to see the cell phone ordinance.

1447
02:11:38,980 --> 02:11:42,800
That's not your ear buds or your headphones or your ear buds.

1448
02:11:44,740 --> 02:11:49,220
So going back to my question, why do we have to wait for San Diego?

1449
02:11:49,560 --> 02:11:53,700
Why can we not implement our own ordinance for an age?

1450
02:11:53,700 --> 02:11:59,780
The state law right now allows anyone to ride the cost one and cost two.

1451
02:12:00,440 --> 02:12:00,580
Okay.

1452
02:12:01,280 --> 02:12:14,940
Is it possible, colleagues, that we draft a letter encouraging Senator Kelly-Ciarto and Assemblywoman Kate Sanchez to address this at the state level?

1453
02:12:17,450 --> 02:12:18,530
Can we do that?

1454
02:12:19,150 --> 02:12:19,250
Sure.

1455
02:12:19,830 --> 02:12:21,030
Mayor, what are your thoughts?

1456
02:12:24,850 --> 02:12:36,510
If these are supposed to just be bicycles, and the class one and class two, class ones, whatever the first tier is, is just a pedal-assist thing.

1457
02:12:37,970 --> 02:12:45,610
Do statics, the bicycles without pedals, but the kids run on the side of them, some of them have throttles.

1458
02:12:45,650 --> 02:12:46,610
What are those? Do we know?

1459
02:12:47,930 --> 02:12:51,990
It's a state, yeah, they're very tiny, so I balanced by it, yeah.

1460
02:12:53,330 --> 02:12:58,050
So those are electric motors, they should not, I mean, like, I've seen,

1461
02:12:58,250 --> 02:12:59,690
I've never seen electric motors.

1462
02:12:59,690 --> 02:13:01,270
No, I've seen, no, no, it's crazy.

1463
02:13:01,630 --> 02:13:03,510
I've seen like 12 month olds ride these things.

1464
02:13:03,770 --> 02:13:05,290
But yeah, but not with the motor.

1465
02:13:05,490 --> 02:13:06,290
Yes, yes.

1466
02:13:06,290 --> 02:13:07,350
I've never seen that.

1467
02:13:07,490 --> 02:13:08,130
They're interesting.

1468
02:13:08,350 --> 02:13:09,870
They're so popular.

1469
02:13:10,210 --> 02:13:14,930
But I would not want to limit that by this, and so let me just, if you don't mind,

1470
02:13:14,930 --> 02:13:24,610
Let me show you and let's talk about this next time for the legislation piece because I think that would step on the toes of something I think is amazing just by nature of the definition of what these things are right.

1471
02:13:24,850 --> 02:13:41,930
Another question, could we, could we implement a policy that if you are 12 years and younger, the ordinance says that you have to ride on the sidewalk and not in the street, can we implement that?

1472
02:13:41,930 --> 02:13:45,190
I mean, we might be able to do that.

1473
02:13:45,470 --> 02:13:47,010
Do we have sidewalk everywhere, though,

1474
02:13:47,010 --> 02:13:47,990
that people would want to be?

1475
02:13:48,490 --> 02:13:50,770
Well, again, they would have to ride where there's this.

1476
02:13:51,410 --> 02:13:54,230
Again, we're talking about 10-year-olds in the younger.

1477
02:13:54,830 --> 02:13:58,390
And the fact that a parent is giving a 10-year-old,

1478
02:13:58,510 --> 02:14:02,150
a motorized vehicle, is beyond my comprehension,

1479
02:14:02,650 --> 02:14:05,590
and I'm just trying to protect that age group.

1480
02:14:06,170 --> 02:14:06,730
Yeah, yeah.

1481
02:14:07,510 --> 02:14:09,110
Again, I'll leave it there city attorney

1482
02:14:09,110 --> 02:14:10,150
about the legality of it.

1483
02:14:12,050 --> 02:14:27,690
on the sidewalks are I mean it's one of those you balance tested of we want to put them in the roadway or do you want to put them on the sidewalk with pedestrians are one fatality was a pedestrian struck on a sidewalk and we've had several others with some pretty serious.

1484
02:14:27,930 --> 02:14:30,310
Okay so that's kind of one of those.

1485
02:14:30,310 --> 02:14:35,730
You know, Laurie, before all this a couple of years ago, as you guys know, my daughter got hit by a car.

1486
02:14:36,070 --> 02:14:36,230
Yes.

1487
02:14:36,670 --> 02:14:45,550
I always told her before this was even approved right on the sidewalk because it was a risk equation that I balanced out.

1488
02:14:45,950 --> 02:14:46,910
She still got hit by a car.

1489
02:14:47,910 --> 02:14:52,150
So I think it has mitigated things, but I think just the nature of what you're dealing with here,

1490
02:14:52,150 --> 02:14:55,610
you're still going to see some bad stuff happen by evidence of what's already happened.

1491
02:14:56,690 --> 02:14:59,870
So, Mayor, again, I just want to encourage you in our call.

1492
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:27,580
Colleagues, to draft a letter to encourage our state representatives to deal with at least 12 and younger with this issue. And that concludes my questions. And again, thank you for yesterday, sir. All right. Thank you. Now open public hearing. Hello, Madam City clerk, I know we have a public comment.

1493
02:15:29,020 --> 02:15:31,100
Thank you, Mr. Mayor, Cousin Klein.

1494
02:15:31,540 --> 02:15:32,000
I'll

1495
02:15:43,490 --> 02:15:44,850
try and keep this for another three minutes.

1496
02:15:45,650 --> 02:15:54,650
You'll note that on June 3rd, I set you all an email including Chief Henry and Captain Parker and Captain Durant.

1497
02:15:55,250 --> 02:16:04,530
Also, and then I followed that up on June 22nd with a very comprehensive memo with that being said,

1498
02:16:04,530 --> 02:16:10,810
I want to thank Chief Henry, Captain Parker, Lieutenant Elliott, and officer Jones.

1499
02:16:10,810 --> 02:16:20,030
I've had several conversations and text conversations and meetings with them regarding policy and incidents.

1500
02:16:21,030 --> 02:16:23,470
So I very much appreciate that.

1501
02:16:24,570 --> 02:16:28,670
A couple of things on the presentation, also, and kind of to your point, Mayor Label.

1502
02:16:28,870 --> 02:16:34,210
Thank you for including bicycles in this, because long before the e-bike proliferation,

1503
02:16:34,210 --> 02:16:40,790
we've had problems with bicycles, especially the two abreast, more than two abreast.

1504
02:16:42,570 --> 02:16:46,750
Curious of the 1369 calls, how many were unable to locate?

1505
02:16:47,930 --> 02:16:55,770
One of the things that I had put in my memo, and this is difficult for me, while I don't have

1506
02:16:56,610 --> 02:17:03,810
much difficulty disagreeing with the five of you, I do find it difficult to disagree

1507
02:17:03,810 --> 02:17:10,990
with our chief on this, and I certainly understand there's no disrespect meant, and I understand

1508
02:17:10,990 --> 02:17:11,310
that.

1509
02:17:13,580 --> 02:17:21,160
But it seems to me with the parks being noted on the calls, it seems, and this is

1510
02:17:21,160 --> 02:17:28,400
in my memo, integrating ground-based mobility assets along with our overhead assets, creates

1511
02:17:28,400 --> 02:17:33,840
an immediate visual deterrent designed to secure voluntary compliance. I mean, we do

1512
02:17:33,840 --> 02:17:37,760
do it with black and white and patrol when somebody sees a black and white, what do they do?

1513
02:17:38,020 --> 02:17:39,720
They slow down or they behave.

1514
02:17:41,160 --> 02:17:46,380
Perhaps not now, perhaps we use this and if it continues to become a problem, maybe

1515
02:17:46,380 --> 02:17:51,220
that's something that we look into and we try to balance the chief's concern for liability

1516
02:17:52,280 --> 02:17:53,240
with compliance.

1517
02:17:58,430 --> 02:18:04,730
That's that, you know, I'm wondering if, you know, when I was a kid and that's when BMX

1518
02:18:04,730 --> 02:18:08,350
started really started in the early 70s.

1519
02:18:08,670 --> 02:18:10,870
The city of Fullerton issued a tag.

1520
02:18:12,250 --> 02:18:15,330
So I'm wondering if the school district is not being

1521
02:18:17,570 --> 02:18:19,890
as urgent with it, maybe it's a two prong approach.

1522
02:18:20,230 --> 02:18:21,310
And I don't know how we would do that.

1523
02:18:21,370 --> 02:18:22,790
It might be cumbersome for the city.

1524
02:18:23,370 --> 02:18:26,450
Maybe once a child is cited by the PD,

1525
02:18:26,730 --> 02:18:28,090
they're issued a tag on the bike.

1526
02:18:28,410 --> 02:18:30,710
And if it's recurring, we're not just going by the name,

1527
02:18:30,710 --> 02:18:31,810
we're going by the tag.

1528
02:18:34,590 --> 02:18:47,350
On the ordinance, E6, where it says the city may recover its actual administrative costs related to removal, seizure, storage regulated mobility device,

1529
02:18:47,650 --> 02:18:52,910
seized pursuant to the section provided costs are listed on the city's website, do not exceed the actual cost.

1530
02:18:53,550 --> 02:19:00,090
Can we ensure that the website is up to date and what tab will that be on?

1531
02:19:00,090 --> 02:19:01,190
Is there a question?

1532
02:19:01,730 --> 02:19:01,870
No.

1533
02:19:02,010 --> 02:19:03,970
Is there a 20 more seconds?

1534
02:19:04,550 --> 02:19:04,850
I'm sorry.

1535
02:19:05,070 --> 02:19:05,790
You want 20 more seconds?

1536
02:19:06,270 --> 02:19:06,890
Can you be concise?

1537
02:19:07,250 --> 02:19:11,110
As long as you want to ask me questions, I'll take as much time as you want to give them.

1538
02:19:11,110 --> 02:19:12,490
You have 20 seconds, Mr. Klein.

1539
02:19:13,070 --> 02:19:14,430
There's a lot to go through here.

1540
02:19:18,270 --> 02:19:27,270
Again, there's no disrespect meant here, but if anything warranted a workshop, it's certainly

1541
02:19:27,270 --> 02:19:27,570
this.

1542
02:19:27,570 --> 02:19:34,870
both for back and forth, as well as education to the public, which I think all five of you have talked about.

1543
02:19:36,790 --> 02:19:45,430
So, again, thank you to the chief and his staff, and thank you for speaking into the microphone, appreciate it.

1544
02:19:45,630 --> 02:19:46,250
Thank you, Mr. Klein.

1545
02:19:46,250 --> 02:19:47,410
On

1546
02:19:49,680 --> 02:19:59,980
that, I guess, operationally on the discussion workshop, could that take place?

1547
02:20:00,000 --> 02:20:28,980
Is there a place in the middle of an ordinance creation? I mean, not to deter anything that's in here, but maybe to opine on or augment from input from the community, I guess, would be. How complex would that get? It's the council's pleasure, whether you want to advance the ordinance, whether you want to pause and have a workshop. I think our decision to place it on the agenda was twofold. One, we already had direction from council on what you were looking for.

1548
02:20:28,980 --> 02:20:31,820
Our workshops are often used to get that kind of input.

1549
02:20:33,260 --> 02:20:37,880
Secondly, we think there's going to be a long process of community education.

1550
02:20:39,020 --> 02:20:50,860
Certainly, a public hearing is only one way to engage as Mr. Klein indicated he had also sent an email that you had every opportunity to review that was more exhaustive in terms of the points you would like to raise.

1551
02:20:50,980 --> 02:20:55,440
But if you would like to have a workshop to have back and forth with residents, you can do that.

1552
02:20:55,440 --> 02:20:59,980
We don't have a lot of public comment on this item, I'm very little by most measures.

1553
02:21:00,680 --> 02:21:03,820
It's really the pleasure of Council on how to advance this item.

1554
02:21:04,260 --> 02:21:11,380
I'm not sure I want to workshop, I do think this will be in a very evolving, I was just curious.

1555
02:21:11,640 --> 02:21:14,760
If you make an ordinance now, how easy is it to change?

1556
02:21:15,240 --> 02:21:24,680
Okay, now we didn't have a bad boy's theme, we didn't do it with a chase program, could you just add that in easily?

1557
02:21:24,680 --> 02:21:26,740
without unpacking a lot of that.

1558
02:21:27,140 --> 02:21:28,320
I mean, you can always,

1559
02:21:29,360 --> 02:21:30,840
so in order to see the first reading,

1560
02:21:30,880 --> 02:21:31,620
and then the second reading,

1561
02:21:31,760 --> 02:21:33,040
if you make changes that second reading,

1562
02:21:33,140 --> 02:21:34,100
you have to reintroduce it,

1563
02:21:34,160 --> 02:21:36,140
so then you'd need another reading.

1564
02:21:36,540 --> 02:21:37,740
But at any meeting,

1565
02:21:37,740 --> 02:21:40,040
you guys can request or change to any part of the code,

1566
02:21:40,280 --> 02:21:41,620
and we can work on that.

1567
02:21:42,300 --> 02:21:43,740
I think just for,

1568
02:21:44,640 --> 02:21:45,980
I want to get this thing moving,

1569
02:21:46,320 --> 02:21:47,840
and as these thoughts evolve,

1570
02:21:48,000 --> 02:21:49,880
and as some things are working on buying the scenes evolve,

1571
02:21:50,120 --> 02:21:52,660
we can augment or take away,

1572
02:21:52,780 --> 02:21:54,040
or whatever we need to do with those thoughts.

1573
02:21:54,040 --> 02:22:06,960
Yeah, I'd say our methods that we utilize, whether it is, you know, as mentioned, either by error, by land, or however we do it, I don't think that really affects the enforcement aspect of it.

1574
02:22:07,020 --> 02:22:10,560
That's just how we're going to get to point eight, a point being an effect.

1575
02:22:11,440 --> 02:22:15,740
I guess to that point, the ordinance doesn't dictate how you respond.

1576
02:22:15,740 --> 02:22:16,060
No.

1577
02:22:16,440 --> 02:22:16,560
Yeah.

1578
02:22:17,020 --> 02:22:17,340
Okay.

1579
02:22:17,580 --> 02:22:17,940
I see that.

1580
02:22:20,110 --> 02:22:20,530
Yeah.

1581
02:22:20,850 --> 02:22:21,090
I know.

1582
02:22:21,330 --> 02:22:22,530
We'll close the public hearing now.

1583
02:22:23,110 --> 02:22:23,230
Um.

1584
02:22:24,370 --> 02:22:24,750
Click.

1585
02:22:27,150 --> 02:22:28,110
Oh, it's a discussion.

1586
02:22:28,270 --> 02:22:28,470
You're right.

1587
02:22:28,970 --> 02:22:29,070
Yeah.

1588
02:22:29,890 --> 02:22:30,850
Close public comments.

1589
02:22:30,910 --> 02:22:31,370
We have no more.

1590
02:22:31,470 --> 02:22:31,650
Correct.

1591
02:22:31,990 --> 02:22:32,930
No online participants.

1592
02:22:33,370 --> 02:22:33,610
Correct.

1593
02:22:33,850 --> 02:22:34,070
Okay.

1594
02:22:34,350 --> 02:22:34,970
Thank you.

1595
02:22:35,510 --> 02:22:37,050
Back to council for comments.

1596
02:22:37,250 --> 02:22:38,370
Looks like we have Ms. Warren up.

1597
02:22:38,930 --> 02:22:39,590
Thank you.

1598
02:22:39,750 --> 02:22:43,170
The one thing that wasn't discussed is damage to city property.

1599
02:22:43,170 --> 02:22:55,870
So we're holding the person or parents, guardians, or parents responsible for any damage done to our parks and city property.

1600
02:22:56,030 --> 02:22:57,030
That's twofold.

1601
02:22:57,270 --> 02:23:04,050
That's one is criminally vandalism, 594 of the penal code covers causing damage to property.

1602
02:23:05,290 --> 02:23:07,110
That would be one aspect of it.

1603
02:23:07,110 --> 02:23:12,830
and then, I guess, whatever the city's mechanism for cost recovery of, you know,

1604
02:23:12,930 --> 02:23:14,970
say you're driving a car and you run over city property.

1605
02:23:15,130 --> 02:23:15,610
Right. Okay.

1606
02:23:15,710 --> 02:23:16,750
There's some sort of cost because.

1607
02:23:16,810 --> 02:23:20,670
Okay, I just want to make sure that that was addressed because there's a state law that has addressed that.

1608
02:23:20,790 --> 02:23:21,670
Okay. Thank you very much.

1609
02:23:21,990 --> 02:23:22,830
I have no more comments.

1610
02:23:23,170 --> 02:23:23,690
Councilwoman Stone.

1611
02:23:24,890 --> 02:23:25,670
Thank you, Mayor.

1612
02:23:26,810 --> 02:23:33,910
I want to talk about the town hall meeting that I hosted and the comments from the kids.

1613
02:23:33,910 --> 02:23:41,650
You know, we've been talking about a pump track here in Marietta and while that is definitely

1614
02:23:41,650 --> 02:23:48,730
a priority for our youth, a pump track is not what the e-bikes are looking for.

1615
02:23:48,890 --> 02:23:54,990
They're looking for a large amount of land that they can ride on.

1616
02:23:55,630 --> 02:24:01,530
And so this is something that the Mayor and I had discussed yesterday along with our city

1617
02:24:01,530 --> 02:24:10,930
the manager and we may have a couple of solutions in which maybe we could at the end do a future

1618
02:24:10,930 --> 02:24:13,530
agendized conversation mayor on that.

1619
02:24:15,870 --> 02:24:20,550
Also, Councilmember Warren, you brought

1620
02:24:20,550 --> 02:24:27,050
up something that was very interesting that we talked about yesterday. And while we're

1621
02:24:27,050 --> 02:24:35,790
We're trying to put a policy together to implement safety within our community.

1622
02:24:36,610 --> 02:24:40,590
And we had frank conversations with the youth yesterday.

1623
02:24:41,410 --> 02:24:48,770
But one thing that they have to understand, and also our community understands, is we

1624
02:24:48,770 --> 02:24:51,870
have to share the road with the e-bikes.

1625
02:24:51,870 --> 02:24:59,950
This is here, who knows with technology what's going to be next with these e-bikes, but I believe that the-

1626
02:25:00,000 --> 02:25:29,920
There also has to be an education for our drivers and understand that we have to share the road. We talked about clothing and wearing black shirts, black shorts, black pants, and then you're riding a black e-bike. And it's important that our youth understand that they have to be safe, but they also have to be constant.

1627
02:25:29,920 --> 02:25:37,000
of the drivers, they are distracted by using their cell phone,

1628
02:25:37,640 --> 02:25:40,100
they're distracted by eating in their vehicle,

1629
02:25:40,520 --> 02:25:42,960
they're distracted by the dog in the backseat,

1630
02:25:43,660 --> 02:25:49,300
and our youth are unaware of the road,

1631
02:25:49,820 --> 02:25:53,240
hazards, and sharing also with vehicles.

1632
02:25:53,820 --> 02:25:57,640
So there has to be some sort of marketing outreach

1633
02:25:57,640 --> 02:26:11,780
that is also part of the solution of our drivers being aware of not just our youth but again adults are using our e-bikes as well.

1634
02:26:12,480 --> 02:26:23,640
So that was really, really important to have that authentic conversation with the kids is that they really have to be constant of their surroundings.

1635
02:26:23,640 --> 02:26:32,480
The chief gave a very important example is when a vehicle is entering a stop sign and they want to make a right,

1636
02:26:32,640 --> 02:26:37,220
they're looking at the left side for oncoming traffic.

1637
02:26:37,820 --> 02:26:47,760
And I've caught myself accelerating and not really looking to the right and then you see an e-bike approaching the intersection.

1638
02:26:47,760 --> 02:26:58,220
So this is really a community outreach and a community education about sharing the road.

1639
02:27:00,780 --> 02:27:04,780
I want you to know that kids are going to be kids.

1640
02:27:06,060 --> 02:27:10,360
And I agree that, you know, they're not behind a computer.

1641
02:27:11,240 --> 02:27:14,920
They're out enjoying our community.

1642
02:27:14,920 --> 02:27:21,220
We don't have a place for them, which I believe should be a tier one priority.

1643
02:27:21,680 --> 02:27:30,040
We've heard their words, and I think that while we have a balance of implementing infrastructure,

1644
02:27:30,700 --> 02:27:36,900
a balance to our police department, our fire department, our library, our senior center,

1645
02:27:37,440 --> 02:27:44,040
that we have to have amenities available, not just for seniors, not for families,

1646
02:27:44,040 --> 02:27:47,560
But also for our youth, I think that's really, really important.

1647
02:27:48,220 --> 02:27:57,180
So, those were just a couple of comments that I wanted to share with the colleagues of what came about from yesterday's town hall meeting.

1648
02:27:57,500 --> 02:28:00,840
And again, I appreciated so much their honesty.

1649
02:28:01,000 --> 02:28:10,680
There was some tough questions that were asked, and they were honest about them not behaving appropriately.

1650
02:28:10,680 --> 02:28:23,080
They admitted it, but also there has to be some accountability for the adults that are driving vehicles, and also the intimidation.

1651
02:28:23,360 --> 02:28:28,200
We talked about the intimidation from the groups of e-bikes.

1652
02:28:28,380 --> 02:28:34,860
It is intimidating, they know it's intimidating, and we brought it to their attention about being a little bit more respectful.

1653
02:28:35,500 --> 02:28:39,580
But also, the adults have to be a little bit more respectful as well.

1654
02:28:39,580 --> 02:28:41,740
This is a community effort.

1655
02:28:42,280 --> 02:28:47,800
I want to thank you so much, Chief, for attending yesterday and for this presentation today.

1656
02:28:49,080 --> 02:28:58,740
And while a workshop will not be appropriate because we're going to hopefully be implementing this policy here today.

1657
02:28:59,040 --> 02:29:02,260
And of course, we could bring it back for changes in the future.

1658
02:29:02,900 --> 02:29:11,160
But City Manager, I'm going to impress a major, major outreach on every single level through all types.

1659
02:29:11,160 --> 02:29:37,640
types of social media on our website, obviously our police department, our city magazine and every opportunity that we have, we should be talking about this conversation because it is one of the most important conversations that we need to have with our entire city, all of our residents and those that visit the city of Marietta, so thank you Madam Mayor.

1660
02:29:37,640 --> 02:29:38,960
Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

1661
02:29:39,220 --> 02:29:39,600
You're welcome.

1662
02:29:40,000 --> 02:29:42,020
Just real quick, Mayor Fudelman.

1663
02:29:42,520 --> 02:29:48,460
One thing I do want to point out is just like a lot of problems, a small minority group

1664
02:29:48,460 --> 02:29:51,580
is causing a lot of this.

1665
02:29:52,620 --> 02:29:58,660
The majority of our kids, I believe, are probably riding pretty responsibly as if they had a bicycle.

1666
02:29:58,660 --> 02:29:59,960
So I

1667
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:29,140
I don't want this to come across as every kid on an e-bike is a problem, they're not. We know there's some good kids, some good riders that are, and adults still, it is, but most of the problems that we're getting are the kids. So I don't want it to be that just everybody riding an e-bike is a problem, they're not. It is a select group, and when they get into the group, I think many of them are fine if they are riding the school by themselves or riding to the park by themselves, but when they attach four or five more riders with them,

1668
02:30:29,140 --> 02:30:34,540
It's just a different mentality that we're not used to seeing and we're having to deal with it.

1669
02:30:34,620 --> 02:30:39,080
Yeah, before you go, Ron, you spoke on the clothing.

1670
02:30:39,320 --> 02:30:44,940
I may have misheard you, but I just wanted to say, do not wear black clothing in black yet.

1671
02:30:45,940 --> 02:30:46,900
Well, no, you had mentioned it tonight.

1672
02:30:47,280 --> 02:30:49,480
No, it was talked about yesterday at the town hall meeting.

1673
02:30:49,920 --> 02:30:50,200
No, I know.

1674
02:30:50,740 --> 02:30:54,120
But you mentioned that it was talked about and that the black clothing came up.

1675
02:30:54,260 --> 02:30:56,180
But I didn't hear you say, don't wear black clothing.

1676
02:30:57,240 --> 02:31:00,120
If it was me, I'd wear mirrors or glitter all over the place.

1677
02:31:00,360 --> 02:31:05,220
So I would want to be seen by everything out there, lights, all the stuff.

1678
02:31:05,720 --> 02:31:08,060
So that's it.

1679
02:31:08,140 --> 02:31:08,760
I didn't say it.

1680
02:31:08,900 --> 02:31:10,260
Yeah, Mr. Holliday, you're up.

1681
02:31:11,080 --> 02:31:11,700
Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

1682
02:31:13,280 --> 02:31:24,180
Yeah, I applaud Councilwoman Stone for her initiative going to the group of kids that she did and inviting them down here to talk with the chief and the mayor.

1683
02:31:24,860 --> 02:31:27,460
I was impressed how many showed up.

1684
02:31:29,020 --> 02:31:31,860
I don't know when I was that age if I would have showed up at all.

1685
02:31:32,620 --> 02:31:34,420
It's like, yeah, that's a waste of my time.

1686
02:31:35,040 --> 02:31:36,380
So I was impressed that you got them here.

1687
02:31:36,660 --> 02:31:39,080
I was impressed that you got the interaction that we needed.

1688
02:31:39,580 --> 02:31:40,180
That was good.

1689
02:31:40,780 --> 02:31:47,400
And I absolutely agree with my colleague that we have to spread this information out

1690
02:31:47,400 --> 02:31:49,000
in every possible way.

1691
02:31:50,140 --> 02:31:53,280
If the school could send something home with every kid,

1692
02:31:53,280 --> 02:31:55,600
that would be awesome if we could connect with them

1693
02:31:56,200 --> 02:31:58,740
and send something home that would be a great way

1694
02:31:58,740 --> 02:31:59,660
to get it to the parents.

1695
02:32:00,020 --> 02:32:02,220
Not that it always makes it home, but it's a good start.

1696
02:32:02,680 --> 02:32:05,160
We started that last year through their information officer

1697
02:32:05,160 --> 02:32:08,740
and females, I think they reach 50,000 people

1698
02:32:08,740 --> 02:32:10,440
or something they're saying, but they're females.

1699
02:32:11,040 --> 02:32:14,900
So every avenue we can, and I would say as far as the workshop

1700
02:32:14,900 --> 02:32:19,320
goes or a community forum of some sort

1701
02:32:19,320 --> 02:32:22,040
in each district or something, I would say let's see,

1702
02:32:22,040 --> 02:32:31,860
Let's see how we, how it goes, let's see how your outreach goes, let's see if we see a decline in incidents as we see if we have any compliance whatsoever.

1703
02:32:33,300 --> 02:32:44,240
And then as Mr. Klein spoke, you know maybe we look at advocating for more resources targeted enforcement if we still have a problem.

1704
02:32:45,740 --> 02:32:51,000
But the number one thing I want to point out is you're never ever going to replace good

1705
02:32:51,000 --> 02:32:51,420
parenting.

1706
02:32:52,720 --> 02:32:57,680
And if good parenting is being done at home, you're not going to have as big a problem.

1707
02:32:58,720 --> 02:33:04,460
And so the parents that choose to get the bike out of M pound and give it right back to the

1708
02:33:04,460 --> 02:33:08,220
kid to do the same violation in my opinion, that's bad parenting.

1709
02:33:09,140 --> 02:33:13,580
That's not teaching and responsibility or accountability and unfortunately their kids could pay for it

1710
02:33:13,580 --> 02:33:14,060
their life.

1711
02:33:16,240 --> 02:33:21,000
So I am happy to move forward with this ordinance as it is and let it evolve

1712
02:33:21,000 --> 02:33:25,920
and see if there needs to be tweaks or public outreach or community form more than what

1713
02:33:25,920 --> 02:33:35,220
are we going to do. Thank you. Thank you. You had a slide up there with the ER visits and

1714
02:33:35,220 --> 02:33:39,220
I don't know if anybody else caught this but you know what else resembled that type of trend?

1715
02:33:40,500 --> 02:33:40,980
Pickleball.

1716
02:33:41,820 --> 02:33:42,300
Really?

1717
02:33:43,420 --> 02:33:47,160
I will tell you firsthand, it's very true.

1718
02:33:47,400 --> 02:33:48,000
Yeah, it's all applicable.

1719
02:33:48,340 --> 02:33:49,520
It's totally kidding, totally kidding.

1720
02:33:50,260 --> 02:33:52,840
You mentioned the prevalence of this happening

1721
02:33:52,840 --> 02:33:55,360
and the small minority being a big problem.

1722
02:33:56,040 --> 02:33:57,700
And I think you used this word a lot,

1723
02:33:57,880 --> 02:33:58,680
a force multiplier.

1724
02:33:58,900 --> 02:34:01,500
An e-bike is a force multiplier of use of a bicycle, right?

1725
02:34:02,400 --> 02:34:04,440
It's just going to make these things happen more.

1726
02:34:04,880 --> 02:34:07,980
These same kids would be the same ones kicking over trash cans,

1727
02:34:07,980 --> 02:34:13,260
spray paint and dumpsters, whatever, on pedal bicycles, when you were kids, and we were kids,

1728
02:34:13,520 --> 02:34:16,540
and if bikes were out, when you were a kid, they would have been when you were a kid.

1729
02:34:17,900 --> 02:34:24,100
And then, yeah, I mean, it's just the tool and asset that's happening right now

1730
02:34:25,460 --> 02:34:29,420
that's unique. It's interesting to watch happen because it's just letting it happen way more.

1731
02:34:30,300 --> 02:34:34,640
And we have to come up with things like this and talk about things like we are tonight to help

1732
02:34:34,640 --> 02:34:43,440
get in front of it. But I'm with Mr. Holiday. I completely support this. I think, you know, as we evolve and bikes evolve and the problem evolves, if it's a problem, we'll address it then.

1733
02:34:43,820 --> 02:34:47,500
Mr. Mayor, I like to make a motion to accept the policy as is.

1734
02:34:47,500 --> 02:34:49,180
Okay, and I have a second minus 1.

1735
02:34:50,400 --> 02:34:50,940
Let's vote.

1736
02:35:00,430 --> 02:35:09,170
Motion carries unanimously, 5-0. With the introduction of ordinance, number 637-26, amending

1737
02:35:09,170 --> 02:35:14,830
Maria de Municipal Code, chapter 10.55, bicycles, e-bites, and e-scooters to update regulations

1738
02:35:14,830 --> 02:35:19,050
governing the operation, speed, and use of bicycles, electric bicycles, and e-commands.

1739
02:35:20,310 --> 02:35:26,610
Thank you, Madam Clerk. You want to take the reconsideration and the request to add for future

1740
02:35:27,470 --> 02:35:31,470
Mr. Mayor, any council member who voted on the prevailing side of the original motion

1741
02:35:31,470 --> 02:35:35,170
may move a reconsideration to consider new information or correct an adverain errors

1742
02:35:35,170 --> 02:35:39,590
on a non-public hearing item at the same time or at the same meeting or the next meeting.

1743
02:35:40,030 --> 02:35:42,670
At this time, are there any requests from council for reconsiderations?

1744
02:35:43,630 --> 02:35:48,610
Seeing none, now is the time for council member requests to add or withdraw items to future

1745
02:35:48,610 --> 02:35:49,490
agenda items.

1746
02:35:50,410 --> 02:35:54,350
To future agenda, there will be no discussion on the request, a brief explanation of the

1747
02:35:54,350 --> 02:35:58,270
The request may be given, the merit of the items being requested may not be discussed or debated.

1748
02:35:58,470 --> 02:35:59,650
Are there any city council requests?

1749
02:36:01,410 --> 02:36:01,850
Yep.

1750
02:36:03,050 --> 02:36:03,670
Seeing none?

1751
02:36:03,910 --> 02:36:04,050
Yes.

1752
02:36:04,430 --> 02:36:05,190
I'm in the queue.

1753
02:36:05,610 --> 02:36:05,690
Oh.

1754
02:36:05,950 --> 02:36:06,070
Yes.

1755
02:36:07,350 --> 02:36:14,170
Mr. Mayor, I'd like to agenda a future discussion on land dedicated to e-bikes.

1756
02:36:19,670 --> 02:36:19,830
Yeah.

1757
02:36:20,110 --> 02:36:20,970
I mean, I'll support that.

1758
02:36:21,170 --> 02:36:23,330
I mean, we should have some options if we have any.

1759
02:36:23,530 --> 02:36:24,190
We'll talk about them.

1760
02:36:25,430 --> 02:36:27,050
Could we include other items?

1761
02:36:27,750 --> 02:36:31,690
I mean, for use, other than the just ebikes, you just want to discuss ebikes.

1762
02:36:34,050 --> 02:36:36,070
It's what did you want to add to the legislation?

1763
02:36:36,070 --> 02:36:44,630
Well, I mean, there is not just, you just want to talk about ebikes in itself, just a place where ebikes to write is that we're just having.

1764
02:36:44,830 --> 02:36:45,470
We could say land use.

1765
02:36:45,570 --> 02:36:47,510
Yes, land use, okay, all right, thank you.

1766
02:36:48,290 --> 02:36:48,530
You good?

1767
02:36:49,050 --> 02:36:49,530
Right.

1768
02:36:50,530 --> 02:36:50,830
Thumbs up.

1769
02:36:50,970 --> 02:36:51,130
We're good.

1770
02:36:52,570 --> 02:36:53,370
Anyone else?

1771
02:36:56,480 --> 02:36:56,840
Seeing none.

1772
02:36:57,100 --> 02:36:57,260
Okay.

1773
02:36:57,540 --> 02:36:58,320
Any public comments?

1774
02:36:58,680 --> 02:36:59,840
Nonogenized for closed session.

1775
02:37:00,500 --> 02:37:01,540
Seeing none, Mr. Mayor.

1776
02:37:01,780 --> 02:37:02,060
Thank you.

1777
02:37:02,700 --> 02:37:05,180
Madam City Clerk, would you please announce our closed session?

1778
02:37:06,680 --> 02:37:07,080
Items.

1779
02:37:07,280 --> 02:37:12,500
City Council will conduct closed session pursuant to government code section 54957.6.

1780
02:37:12,820 --> 02:37:16,920
With the City Manager, Assistant City Manager, Deputy City Manager, City Attorney, and the City's

1781
02:37:16,920 --> 02:37:21,760
negotiators regarding labor negotiations with the Myrietta Supervisors Association and

1782
02:37:21,760 --> 02:37:24,820
the unrepresented management professional and confidential employees.

1783
02:37:25,360 --> 02:37:30,340
City Council will conduct closed session pursuant to government code section 54956.92.

1784
02:37:30,340 --> 02:37:32,940
There are significant exposure to litigation in two cases.

1785
02:37:33,560 --> 02:37:37,560
And lastly, City Council will conduct closed session with city manager, assistant city manager,

1786
02:37:37,780 --> 02:37:42,180
deputy city manager, administrative services director, and city attorney pursuant to government

1787
02:37:42,180 --> 02:37:47,860
amendment code section 54956.95b to consider the following case of Marcella,

1788
02:37:48,140 --> 02:37:56,780
Carina Wheatley versus City of Marietta, case number CVME2505271 Riverside County Superior Court.

1789
02:37:57,660 --> 02:38:00,800
Thank you. We now are recessing to closed session. We will be back.

1790
02:39:38,640 --> 02:39:43,720
And we're back. Madam City Attorney, can you please go over the closed session items?

1791
02:39:43,720 --> 02:39:44,220
We would order.

1792
02:39:44,920 --> 02:39:47,600
Thank you, Mayor. The City Council met in closed session on four items.

1793
02:39:47,600 --> 02:39:54,880
The first was to confer with the labor negotiators, pursuant to government code section 5, 4, 9, 5, 7, 0.6.

1794
02:39:55,060 --> 02:39:59,060
The council was updated and provided direction, there's no reportable action.

1795
02:39:59,060 --> 02:39:59,980
The count.

1796
02:40:00,000 --> 02:40:28,680
Council then met regarding two matters of anticipated litigation, pursuant to government code section 5, 4, 9, 5, 6, .9, D2 on both items. The council was updated. As questions provided direction, no reportable action. The final item was regarding existing litigation in the matter of Marcella Wheatley versus City, Murietta. The council was updated and provided direction, no reportable action. Thank you. Thank you very much.

1797
02:40:29,800 --> 02:40:33,520
And Madam City Attorney, all members were present at closed session.

1798
02:40:33,800 --> 02:40:34,540
Thank you.

1799
02:40:35,740 --> 02:40:39,360
Before we adjourn tonight's meeting, I'd like to close out in a moment of silence for

1800
02:40:39,360 --> 02:40:41,960
all the victims of the Nepal and China area flooding.

1801
02:40:42,400 --> 02:40:43,560
So if you please join me.

1802
02:40:57,790 --> 02:41:00,270
Okay, with that, everyone have a good night.

1803
02:41:00,270 --> 02:41:00,930
people here.