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[2:45] Good evening, everyone. Well, let's get this meeting started. Let's call the order of the September 1st regular city council meeting. Madam State clerk, can you please call roll?
[2:59] Yes, I'm here. Councilmember de Forrest. Here. Councilmember Stone. Here. Council Mayor pro tem holiday. Here. Mayor LaValle. Here. Let the record reflect that all members are present. Thank you very much. I've asked Councilwoman de Forrest to lead us in the pleasure of allegiance. And if you can, please remain standing for the invocation led by Pastor Cameron C.
[3:18] from the Calvary Marietta Church.
[3:21] Thank you, Mayor, would everybody stand
[3:23] and place their right hand over their heart?
[3:26] Ready, begin.
[3:28] I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America
[3:32] and to the Republic for which it stands,
[3:35] one nation under God, indivisible,
[3:38] with liberty and justice for all.
[3:43] I know we do.
[3:45] All right.
[3:46] Well, thank you, everyone.
[3:47] Let me, let me pray for us today.
[3:50] Father God, we just thank you for meetings like these, Lord, and for the opportunity to
[3:56] be heard.
[3:57] I ask that you would lead this meeting this time together and these leaders with wisdom
[4:01] and with grace.
[4:02] Lord, I pray that voices would be heard and truth would be revealed and that God, you would
[4:07] lead this time that we get to have together.
[4:10] Thank you for the opportunity to come together for there to be unity and peace and love.
[4:16] and we pray for those things to resound in here and Lord we do trust in you as
[4:21] the wall says there and God we trust and so we trust that you will be in this
[4:24] meeting today and so thank you Lord go before us we pray this in your name amen
[4:38] okay next up we have a press presentation I think from the library who do we
[4:44] have from the library oh yeah and a teen advisory council right all right
[5:00] So good afternoon to both city council and members of our community. I'm Christine Bainey, the teen services librarian. Y'all have seen me a couple times up here now. And I'm here with a few members of my teen advisory council. During June's city council meeting, we promoted our summer reading challenge and we hope that it inspired you to stop in and experience some of the library joy with us. But today we're here to share our library report.
[5:29] including stories and numbers from the summer's activities, but we'd like to start with a brief video presentation.
[6:56] Thank you and I invite up our first team advisory council member.
[7:04] While activities at the library look a little different this year because of our construction on the new children's area,
[7:10] our plan to seed read summer reading program still brought in crowds.
[7:14] We had 2,408 unique participants for this year's challenge.
[7:18] 1,773 participants were 12 or younger, 228 between the ages of 13 and 18 and 407 adults.
[7:30] Teams pledged to read 1,811 books nearly meeting their goal, logging 1,085.
[7:38] Adults pledged to read 2,580 books, but it looks like life got in the way
[7:43] and folks only submitted 1,190 reviews that is still an average of three books per person
[7:49] over just six, just a six week time period.
[7:53] Keep in mind the average person will only read two books a year.
[7:59] It's always fun to share those big numbers, but where we really see the biggest impact is
[8:04] during our programs, despite having less space to work with, the library still hosted 72
[8:10] in-person programs reaching over 2,000 attendees.
[8:15] While we could break it down, like we did the other numbers, we think the pictures from the video give a better idea from the impact these programs make to our community.
[8:28] We loved reading, creating, playing, and growing with everyone this summer.
[8:35] Finally, we want to share the impact of lunch at the library.
[8:38] This grant funded community partnerships served 67,700 meals to kids 18 and under, our
[8:45] farm to summer component incorporated hands-on activities that connected youth to gardening,
[8:50] pollinators, agriculture and healthy eating.
[8:52] We hosted a petting zoo, a hands-on butter-making activity, and a food preparation activity where
[8:58] participants learned kids' safe cutting skills.
[9:00] These activities encouraged healthy eating, upholding practical skills, and learning about
[9:05] how food moves from the farm to our tables.
[9:10] So, before we wrap up this presentation, I wanted to share a metric that wasn't in the
[9:16] video.
[9:17] So, behind the scenes, we had amazing staff members and volunteers that created the
[9:22] memories for our community.
[9:24] And, again, being the Teen Services Librarian, I have to brag about my teens.
[9:29] So, this summer, they collectively volunteered for 808 hours.
[9:35] This included running two challenge sign-up slash prize tables and assisting staff during programs.
[9:42] Okay, my bragging is done.
[9:44] Thank you so much for giving myself and the Teen Advisory Council the chance to share our library updates.
[9:50] We open the floor if there's any questions and then we would love to get a photo with y'all.
[9:56] I don't think we have any questions, but thank you very much for that update and we're going to come down.
[10:24] Thank you.
[11:13] Okay, moving on to the approval of the agenda, Madam Speaker, there are any changes to the
[11:18] posted agenda?
[11:19] I'm seeing that, Mr. Mayor.
[11:21] Thank you.
[11:22] And do a roll call or a vote to approve the agenda, please motion in a second.
[11:26] I'm motioned by Mayor President Holliday and a second by Councilman DeForest, who's vote?
[11:38] Motion carries unanimously, 5-0.
[11:40] Thank you very much.
[11:42] Moving right along to the Justin Clifton City Manager update, what do you got Justin?
[11:47] Thank you very much, Mr. Mayor.
[11:48] Have a few items for you this evening.
[11:50] And first, you probably noticed when you took a seat, this shiny new copy of the
[11:55] 2026-2030 strategic plan from our fire department.
[11:59] So I'd like to invite up our fire chief Bernie Maloy and our battalion chief Eric Ackerman who are going to walk you through and
[12:06] give you some of the highlights of the strategic plan.
[12:08] Good
[12:16] evening, Mayor LaBalle of Council and members of our public that are here today.
[12:20] I'm honored to be able to present to you our 2026 to 2030 strategic plan.
[12:27] I'm Bernie Maloy, I'm the fire chief for the city of myrietta and I'm proud to have with me today Eric Ackerman.
[12:32] Battalion chief for the city of myrietta are accreditation manager.
[12:35] who manages all things accreditation in our department and the person that took on the responsibilities
[12:40] of putting together our strategic plan and guiding through this process. We update our strategic plan
[12:47] generally every five years in the city of myriata and that's because for the entire time myriata has
[12:53] been a city it has been growing and changing and we want to make sure that we have a fire department
[12:57] that is aligning with the city as it changes around us. So the past strategic plan focused on a lot
[13:04] lot of things that we've really accomplished well over the past five years.
[13:07] We wanted to improve our ISO rated.
[13:09] We wanted to improve community risk reduction in our city.
[13:12] We wanted to improve staffing, and we've done that through our medical patrol programs.
[13:17] We wanted to improve our water supply.
[13:19] We've done that through our tactical water tender program.
[13:22] And we wanted to improve firefighter recruitment, and we're doing four days of interviews right
[13:28] now for firefighters because this is a place that people want to be,
[13:33] and
[13:34] So, when we looked at this year and we said, what do we need to look at for strategic planning?
[13:39] What are those long-term goals that the city has?
[13:41] We really have to look backwards a little bit and see the changes that we've had.
[13:45] Since our last strategic plan, you will see a chart there that shows exponential call growth in this city.
[13:53] We went from having about 10,000 calls and when we did our last strategic plan,
[13:58] June 14,000 calls this last year.
[14:01] That's a 35, excuse me, 36% increase in that five year period.
[14:07] So we're running a third more calls than we were just five years ago.
[14:10] Last year alone, we had a 12.45% call increase.
[14:14] This shows us a city that's growing around us.
[14:17] We want to make sure that we're building a fire department to meet these demands.
[14:21] And using data analysis, seeing the population that's changing around us.
[14:25] the way the fire department is changing, excuse me, the way that the buildings are changing around our fire department,
[14:31] we want to make sure that we're building fire department to match the growing high-rise footprint of our city that's coming.
[14:37] So when we looked at this, we said we need to take a look at all facets of our city, not just the fire department.
[14:44] We need to involve stakeholders from every reach of the city, the people involved in city government,
[14:49] the people involved in the city management team, the people that run our city every single day.
[14:54] And then the other stakeholders, utilities, and different members of our community so we reach
[15:00] We shout out to all of them to be a part of the strategic planning process. At this point, I'm going to turn it over to battalion chief Eric Akman to talk to you a little bit about this long process that took us several months and how we put it together. All right. So as chief mentioned, one of the goals we had when we set out on this is to have it be a community driven strategic plan. We wanted to start with our stakeholders in the community and we did that by last December having an external stakeholder session.
[15:29] We had members from other departments within the city, the business community, health
[15:34] care schools, just as broad of a brush as we could go for the community and at the end
[15:41] of this presentation, we'll acknowledge everyone who assisted us to get to this point.
[15:45] In that session, we got a picture of where the community saw us as far as the services
[15:50] we provided and where they wanted to see us go.
[15:53] We took that information and we had an internal stakeholder session.
[15:56] And again, we wanted to get a good representation.
[15:59] So this was not just a bunch of chiefs sitting in a room.
[16:02] We started, or we had a representation from every level
[16:05] within our organization, from firefighter to fire chief,
[16:08] fire prevention, emergency management, EMS training.
[16:11] We wanted to get everyone's perspective.
[16:14] We did a SWAT analysis so we could say,
[16:16] what do we do well, what can we do better,
[16:18] where are the gaps, how do we close those?
[16:20] And from that, we came up with seven strategic initiatives,
[16:23] Just the broad categories with specific goals underneath each of those so I'm going to cover the initiatives now
[16:30] And they're all up here. We'll cover them further in slides
[16:33] But we wanted to keep it in manageable amounts so in the fire service the spanner control is 3 to 7 anything passed
[16:40] That it's hard to maintain control so we wanted to try and boil it down to that
[16:43] And this is what we landed on so the first initiative has to do with alignment and readiness
[16:48] This means with our infrastructure, our resources that we have, how do we ensure that not only
[16:57] are they aligned for the myriad of yesterday and today but aligned for the myriad of tomorrow?
[17:03] And the goal is developed or for that.
[17:06] This technology goes, I don't think it shocks anyone to say technology is moving at a break next
[17:10] speed. So we wanted to make sure that we are evaluating the technology we have in place versus the
[17:15] the technology that's available out there to help us deliver the best and most effective
[17:19] services to our citizens.
[17:22] And then we move on to the next two, a really geared towards the workforce here in Marietta.
[17:27] We wanted to make sure, I don't think it's, again, any surprise to say that the fire services
[17:31] and inherently risky and dangerous professions, so we want to make sure that our employees are
[17:36] healthy and well as they spend an entire career providing these services to the citizens
[17:41] of Marietta.
[17:42] So the goal is here are aimed at longevity and wellness for our personnel and then the workforce as chief mentioned
[17:48] We're doing recruitment right now
[17:50] What can we do to make sure that we are recruiting retaining and
[17:55] And enabling our personnel to deliver the services needed
[18:00] Five and six are aimed at the
[18:03] proactive approach to what we provide to the citizens so obviously when you think of the fire department most people think of the reactionary efforts
[18:10] we take, put out fires, respond to medical emergencies, but we want to make sure that we're proactively
[18:15] understanding and mitigating the risks in our community. So, equipping and focusing on our
[18:21] community risk reduction is important for our fire prevention, for understanding the specific risks
[18:27] and incidents that are occurring within our community. And then it's not just our personnel.
[18:31] We also want to equip the public with the information that we gather and the information they need
[18:36] to reduce the risks in their own households and in their own families.
[18:40] And our final strategic initiative is related to training.
[18:44] So as much as we want to be proactive, we'll never be so proactive that no one will have an emergency.
[18:48] And we have to make sure that our personnel are equipped and trained and ready to respond effectively to whatever emergency is needed by our citizens.
[18:58] And that's what those are our seven strategic initiatives.
[19:05] What was really important to us in the fire department is that we didn't make a plan that sat on the shelf and got dusty, and we thought one of the best ways to make that so it didn't happen was to make it a public plan, so if you see the QR code up there, this is the first time the public will be able to see it, but this is our strategic plan, anybody that wants to scan that can get access to our public plan.
[19:25] Having the public, this is as much the public's plan as our Fire Department's plan.
[19:30] We're here to serve the public and we want to meet their needs.
[19:33] So we want them to have this document so they can see the work we owe them.
[19:38] Another way that we thought we could keep this plan going is to assign lead positions to it.
[19:44] So each one of these strategic, seven strategic initiatives that we have has an owner within our organization.
[19:50] That owner does more than just check on it, they're the champion for that cause.
[19:56] So that owner is going to take that cause and make sure that every decision we make.
[20:04] We have an annual work plan meeting where we put together our whole fire department and through our work plan that's assigned as part of the strategic plan, that's our document on our side that we see, we do regular check-ups and we say are these strategic initiatives being met and are we aligning our operations with them. And then last, we're fortunate enough in our city to have great data analysis. We have a data analyst on staff. And we make sure that we have
[20:29] As we see these trend changes that we're able to be fluid enough that we can address the changes in the data that we're seeing as it comes to our community.
[20:41] We do want to acknowledge all of the people that took part in the strategic plan and I'm not going to read the list. It's actually another slide as well.
[20:48] But we want to show that this matters, involvement matters.
[20:51] We put out on our social media, we put out through our web page, and we ask for city involvement, and we get a lot of the same people that are invested in this community.
[21:00] We want the public to know that we provide opportunities for their voices to be heard, be heard like these external stakeholders.
[21:07] I can go down that external stakeholder list and say that many of those people have graduated.
[21:12] are myriad of fire citizens, fire academy, just to let everyone know that we have the concrete
[21:18] completed. That is coming back to our training center. So be on the lookout for that coming
[21:22] soon. And then we have our internal stakeholders and staff and everybody that participated in
[21:28] that as well. So those will be in the strategic plan, if anyone wants to read that very full
[21:32] list of people. And we thank all of them for their participation in this. And to end, I just
[21:36] want to say that we assure you, we assure the city that this is a dynamic ongoing plan.
[21:41] And this guides us just like the strategic initiatives for the city council.
[21:46] These are the strategic initiatives for our fire department that we're going to take forward in every single decision that we make as an organization to better serve our community.
[21:55] So with that, we will end, again, the QR code, if anyone wants to scan the QR code, you can get a copy of our strategic plan.
[22:02] It's also available on our website.
[22:04] And I am available for any questions.
[22:06] questions. Thank you, gentlemen. That presentation was straight fire.
[22:13] All right. Well, wake up. It's only four guys. Any questions from my colleagues or this
[22:18] at least of the forest? Thank you. Mayor, I just have a question. When you look at some
[22:23] of the statistics for our medical responses versus fire responses, and I know that you probably
[22:28] took this into account, but just sitting up here as a council member thinking of the future
[22:33] planning and where we need to go with that is more medic patrols, I know they're faster
[22:39] to the scene and is that something that you have put in this plan?
[22:45] We don't prescriptively spell out what units we need where in the plan.
[22:49] What we do is identify that we need to continually monitor our data and how we measure that is something
[22:55] called unit hour utilization of our resources.
[22:58] So we currently have two medic patrols in the city.
[23:00] they're in the two busiest fire stations that we have in the city, and they absorb medical
[23:04] aids all day long. So with the lower-acurity medical aids, our medical patrols can get out and
[23:09] handle those without sending another apparatus, be it a truck company or an engine company to assist
[23:14] them, or we can send both a, you know, on higher-acurity levels, we can send a medical patrol
[23:19] and a fire engine as opposed to two fire engines. So medical patrols are a huge part of our success
[23:25] Yes, and addressing that growing call demand, we're monitoring it.
[23:30] I mean, I think everyone here understands the footprint of the West Side is really changing.
[23:35] And we're closely monitoring that, and we're certainly seeing the impacted growth on the West Side and
[23:40] what it's doing to our call volume.
[23:42] And we will see where we get to a point where we have an overuse of our unit hour utilization of the West Side resources and
[23:49] where we need to add additional medical controls when they're needed.
[23:52] Thank you for elaborating. I'm not greatly appreciate it. Thank you guys for being here.
[23:55] A great amazing strategic report for our city. So thank you. Thank you, Mayor.
[24:00] Thank you. Councilman Stone. Thank you, Mayor Lavelle. Chief, I believe that our city manager
[24:07] may have had a brief conversation with you about an idea of a motorcycle medic, especially as
[24:15] traffic congestion continues in the city of Marietta. But I'll be talking about that later in my
[24:21] governing body announcements.
[24:23] What is your take on that?
[24:27] We have, it's one of the things we're under review.
[24:30] Currently we have a, we have a medic patrol
[24:33] that we staff onto a fast response vehicle,
[24:37] a rims vehicle when we have any city events.
[24:39] So that's a side by side where we can carry
[24:41] all of our medic equipment.
[24:43] We don't presently have any motorcycles in our fleet.
[24:46] That would be one paramedic with limited resources.
[24:49] As we see growing traffic,
[24:51] we have to trend that. One of the things that we do a monthly analysis that goes out is publicly available
[24:56] of our response times, and certainly traffic has an impact on it.
[25:00] Our response times. So right now we're addressing that through strategic placement of medic patrols that are able to navigate traffic quicker than a truck company per se. But nothing is out of the question. We have to look and that's part of using the data analysis that we're doing, the technologies that are coming from the future and making sure those align to the needs of the public. So certainly worth having the conversation about that.
[25:26] I know that it's been successful in some high population cities, and again, it could be a way to mitigate our response time.
[25:39] So thank you for addressing that, and thank you for a great presentation to both of you.
[25:43] Thank you, and Mayor Lebel cannot drive the motorcycle.
[25:46] I just said I'm the first one to apply with a job.
[25:48] I know, I just had to learn how to do IVs, I think.
[25:52] Thank you both for the presentation, and thank you for having such great oversight of our city and grow as we grow.
[25:59] You guys are obviously right on top of it, growing with our city and making sure we have the best resources possible from our fire department.
[26:05] So thank you.
[26:08] Okay, thank you, Mr. Mayor.
[26:10] Next, we want to talk to Council a little bit about, we've had some conversations, public comment and other conversations about Jefferson widening project.
[26:19] We've had some public comments in particular at recent meetings, and just want to make sure that council in the community has some factual information and understand where we're at.
[26:28] So I have a slide deck here that was put together with a lot of help and support from our director of Public Works and Engineering.
[26:35] It's about mailing and city engineer Jeff Hitch there also here to answer some technical questions if we have them.
[26:41] But if we can get that slide going, I want to orient you first to what we're talking about.
[26:45] I think most of you understand, but we've got a couple images on the next slide.
[26:49] Just help you, Orient, that we're talking about Jefferson, generally north of Nutmeg.
[26:54] And as you know, it continues on for a period at full width, and then the road narrows,
[26:58] and the road discontinues before we basically cross the boundary of the city of Mirrietta and
[27:03] enter into Wildemar.
[27:06] Can I go here?
[27:08] Or do I click or?
[27:09] Oh, there we go.
[27:10] Thank you.
[27:12] So, if you look at the image in the left, you'll see the handout version of that.
[27:16] You'll see kind of in the very top corner, if it's a little difficult to see, but you
[27:21] can see the connection of Jefferson to Palomar.
[27:23] That's actually under construction currently.
[27:25] So, some of that roadway now exists and some has yet to be paved, but this is really what's
[27:30] going to happen when the development in Wildermar finishes.
[27:34] And then on the bottom right-hand corner, you see a little bit of the zoomed-in version
[27:37] where you can see a wider Jefferson avenue in the bottom right-hand corner and in the top left-hand corner,
[27:44] but in between you can see where that road narrows. And so we've seen that in various areas of
[27:49] the city before. So just generally want to orient you that when we've had public comments or people
[27:54] kind of inquiring discussion on social media for the widening of Jefferson Avenue, this is the area
[27:59] that we're talking about.
[28:02] So a little bit of history here before the incorporation of Wildermar Riverside
[28:06] county had development plans to connect Palomar to Jefferson much in the way that we see currently
[28:12] with this new project. However, July 1st, 2020, Wilhelm R. Incorporated. So it kind of transitioned.
[28:19] As that was happening, the city of myriadta was considering an added a CIP project,
[28:25] a wider Jefferson and actually in 2009 and 10, started to explore the idea was doing geotechnical
[28:31] analysis and some preliminary design, hadn't really engaged fully in property acquisition. But
[28:36] But what's in earnest preparing so that if something happened on the
[28:39] Wildemar side, that could be paired up with improvements on the Mirrietta side.
[28:42] In 2011, however, Wildemar, really just a few years after incorporation decided,
[28:48] it really didn't have the money to widen that street as a public works project.
[28:52] And so put it on the shelf and Mirrietta ended up doing the same.
[28:57] Fast forward to 2017, Wildemar approved the townhouse project that is now going up,
[29:03] where that connection is being made and then really it was approved in 17 but construction started pretty recently in the last 12 months of the roadway realignment happened just as of August and right now it's preliminary as some of that construction is still taking place.
[29:18] In 2025, Philip O'Reilly initiated some conversations with city staff, indicating that he was interested to have the city purchase some of the property.
[29:28] There are four property owners in that area that would need, the city would need property to complete the full widening, but his property is one of those.
[29:36] And he mentioned that in the context of broader development interests.
[29:40] It discussed everything from billboards to particular visions to develop the property.
[29:47] But I believe indicated that perhaps proceeds from the sale of the property could be used for that private development.
[29:53] One of the things we focus on early on in those conversations is there's really two major ways that roadways get.
[30:00] We've improved and expanded in the city. Mostly, it happens through private development. So in fact, that's what we're seeing in Wildermark. Wildermark, one point said, maybe, or the county said, we'll extend that road. Then they said, you know what, we're better off not putting this burden on the taxpayers, but rather to wait for private development. And here, that private development comes, and now they're paying for that improvement, rather than the taxpayer. So, same thing happened if you look at Washington, just north of not Megan, Osooro, the park, a multi-family development there.
[30:29] there for a while, that was one lane instead of two, and it created a little bit of congestion,
[30:34] but not to the point where it needed to become a public works project.
[30:37] Again, that would have been paid for by tax dollars instead, waited for private development
[30:40] to come, add the extra lane, and now you have two through lanes going north on Washington,
[30:44] past Nomega and those Oro.
[30:47] So the distinction there was, in an effort to say, if there's private development interest,
[30:51] that's usually the place where the city says we don't want the taxpayers to pay for that.
[30:55] We want the private development to pay for it.
[30:56] We see that all over the city, new projects coming in and widening roads.
[31:01] If rather you would wait for the taxpayer to fund it because it's a public priority for some reason.
[31:08] Public safety being number one, major development or access to medical areas like we see with the Keller Road interchange number two.
[31:15] And then maybe beyond that, just to alleviate congestion and
[31:18] to create more convenient ways of getting around the city, then we put that into a prioritization process.
[31:24] So, that's really what we've done as we looked in 2026 to take our capital improvements plan that had a lot of projects in it and turn it into more of a prioritized list.
[31:36] This project has been and will continue to be on that list.
[31:40] So, for purposes of staff consideration, it was added to the mid-level of tier one.
[31:45] So, that's a three-tiered framework much like our other administrative priorities.
[31:48] So the good news is tier one means it's fairly important,
[31:51] more important than the things on tiers two and three.
[31:55] But it's a medium priority because the high priority within that tier includes projects like Keller Road,
[32:01] like the Hot Springs widening project.
[32:05] We have the Madison corridor widening project, the Hayes Avenue Bridge that was an emergency repair,
[32:15] There are a number of other projects that are just also very important, if not more important to complete first.
[32:22] So, again, the status today is really not changed, I know some of the information that's circulated online and from public comments suggests that it was either removed from prioritization or at some point it was elevated and then it was kind of moved down the list, I don't think that's accurate.
[32:39] We went from having a general plan that calls us out in a circulation element to a capital improvements plan that calls it out to be done at some point to a more prioritized version of that list that places it in the appropriate rank order.
[32:52] So current status is if we're waiting for this to become a public priority and for the city's taxpayers to fund it, it waits until it comes up in the appropriate priority.
[33:01] If it's driven by development interests primarily, or first, that's when we default to asking the private development to pay for the improvements.
[33:09] So it's still planned in every way that it's been planned, just waiting for that prioritization, or for the private development interest to come forward with a development in which case it would be a condition of approval of that development.
[33:21] So that's the summary, kind of where we're at today, and again, I can answer questions, or our engineering team is also here if you have any questions.
[33:28] Just, for context, it seems like we are real tomorrow, we're waiting for if-and-when private
[33:34] development comes in to build that road because there is no actual need from the city's perspective
[33:38] at this current state. That's exactly right. And that's the primary way these roadways are
[33:43] developed. On occasion, you might have an area that's already developed. Maybe it's a myriad hot
[33:48] springs, and you need to widen the road for safety reasons or other reasons where it makes sense
[33:52] for the public priority to spend the public resources. But in the cases where that's not necessary,
[33:57] And we don't see the kind of congestion even, let alone the public safety demand to make that connection now.
[34:04] The development happening in Wildomar will make the connection.
[34:07] It will just have some places where the road narrows exactly like Washington,
[34:10] narrowed north of Nutt, Meg, until the park development.
[34:13] So that's typical.
[34:15] If something changed where that became a more urgent need,
[34:19] then it could accelerate the timeline.
[34:20] But again, you heard some of those other projects that people have also been waiting a long time to see some improvements in some of those other areas of our city.
[34:28] A long time with a hospital or two hospitals that have been there for, you know, no one is 15 years, so Keller Road, yeah, Keller Road's 20-year discussion and we're just now getting around to put in a shovel in the dirt.
[34:43] That's right. These major infrastructure projects, given environmental review, property acquisition, design, cost that being significant tend to have a long lead time.
[34:53] The more complicated ones like myriad of hot springs and Keller could be multiple decades,
[34:58] the simpler ones don't take as long.
[35:00] But there's still very involved, and so that's why that prioritization is important. If we're doing all those things simultaneously, we'd be even slower. And we want to make sure those most important projects get done. This one's important. It falls in kind of the appropriate order of things. And again, to emphasize, nothing's changed there. It hasn't moved around. It just went from one project among many in the capital improvements plan to the same list with a little more prioritization. Hopefully that brings some clarity.
[35:27] But also, the discussions happened over the last 12 months.
[35:32] It's more likely that construction is going to happen over a number of years.
[35:36] Planning, property acquisition, design, construction may not begin for a number of years,
[35:41] and then would take a number more to complete.
[35:43] So it's probably not measured in months, but years.
[35:47] Okay, well, I appreciate the context, and this would be a good sound by a five-minute clip to hang on to.
[35:53] So, yeah, those are all comments, I think, or all of them.
[35:56] And then if there are no questions about that, we'd like to wrap up, as we always do,
[36:01] wrap up with a little bit about what's going on, Myriadta, with our public information officer,
[36:06] Builder Sam.
[36:13] Good afternoon, Honourable Mayor and City Council. Good to see you all.
[36:18] All right, I feel like I'm a broken record. I'm always telling you how much there is going on,
[36:23] Myriadta, but there really is a lot going on. As we all know, we have the state of the city coming up.
[36:29] up. Just look at that picture up there. Beautiful. Do we have? Do we have some?
[36:35] Okay, you can cover it. We are excited for the State of the City on September 30th right
[36:43] here at Town Square Park and Amphitheater, where Mayor Lavell will present to us the State
[36:49] of the City with some help from some friends. So that will be great. We're doing this of course
[36:56] in partnership with, well, we have to switch out this logo because it's no longer the myriad
[37:01] of a little more chamber of commerce. It is the chamber of Southwest Riverside County.
[37:06] So there are partners in this event and if you would like to attend the VIP reception
[37:13] before the address, it is at 5.30 pm and you can buy tickets at the chamber website.
[37:20] Other upcoming events that we have are the September 11th Tribute Ceremony. It is the 25th
[37:26] anniversary this year and we invite you to join us at Town Square Park on Friday, September 11th,
[37:31] at 5.30 p.m. We also have our very popular bulky item drop off and shutting event. This time
[37:37] because it is so popular and so busy, we are splitting it into two. So at the back parking lot
[37:44] here at City Hall, we're doing the bulky item drop off and at the senior center parking lot, we're doing
[37:49] the shutting of documents. So bring yourself and get rid of it. We're also hosting another
[37:58] citizen's academy right here at City Hall. It consists of seven sessions that are free for
[38:04] the public to participate in, and you can apply by September 8th. If you see the link up there,
[38:10] it's bit.ly-mcitizen. You can apply and learn all about what goes into running
[38:19] the city. So we would love to see you here. It's on every Thursday, starting on the 20,
[38:28] where is the date? It's 17th, September 17th. So it's starting on September 17th every Thursday
[38:36] for seven weeks. So we would love to see you there. And if you are quick enough, you might just
[38:44] to be able to get the September more myriad when we send it out this evening because it
[38:49] goes out every first of the month. So sign up right now and you'll receive our monthly
[38:55] newsletters and our magazine, the Fall Winter edition, is coming out any day now. So we're
[39:01] very excited. It looks beautiful and we're excited to see it both digitally and in person.
[39:07] Thank you guys.
[39:08] Thank you.
[39:09] And then real quickly to conclude just a reminder for our residents that we are closed Labor Day, September 7th, and observance of Labor Day.
[39:18] Thank you.
[39:20] Thank you, Mr. Justin Clifton.
[39:22] Next up, we have our governing body committee reports and announcements.
[39:30] This is the time to get to see where the five of us have been and if there's any committees that we sit on that we're going to report out on.
[39:38] Starting with Councilwoman Warren who just got back from a cruise.
[39:42] Thank you.
[39:44] Thank you, Mayor.
[39:45] First of all, I'd like to encourage our community to come out and fill the park up on 9-11 as we celebrate and remember 25 years ago.
[39:56] And I'm pretty sure everybody knows where they were on that day.
[39:59] So please come.
[40:00] Now, where are your red, white, and blue? Let's show our patriotism, let's show our support, and I really want everybody to come out. I'd love to parking lot to be totally full. That would be awesome. Also, I wanted to take a minute and wish Chief Malloy happy birthday. So congratulations, sir. And no, we're not singing. He doesn't want that. No, no, no, no, no, no. Moving on to my governing body. Announce.
[40:29] No.
[40:30] I attended the RCTC Budget Implementation Committee meeting.
[40:35] There was no report of election.
[40:37] I also chaired the Southwest Transportation now, TNOW meeting.
[40:42] I wanted to update you on the boardings from July 26, compared to July of 25, they increased
[40:47] 7.7 percent, 506,000 boardings over the 25 numbers.
[40:53] Over all boardings are 6,468,15 with a 4.5% increase over the year of 2025 up to through July.
[41:05] There will be no bus service on Labor Day September 7th, service will resume as scheduled on 9.8.
[41:13] And don't forget, the youth ride free program has been extended until June of 2027.
[41:19] So 18 and under, you can ride for free.
[41:22] And that's really helping out a lot of students get to and from school, so that's been a very, very big program.
[41:29] I also attended the RTA executive board meeting on the 27th and then right after that was our regular board meeting where there was no reportable action and right after that, we did a ribbon counting for our first hydrogen bus and hydrogen fuel station.
[41:49] It is quite impressive.
[41:51] It is probably the coolest bus I have ever been on.
[41:54] So we're looking forward to that.
[41:56] You know, there are more mandates, means more money.
[42:00] Each of these buses cost in the millions.
[42:03] So it's very, it's very crazy.
[42:05] That includes those reports.
[42:08] And I want to start off my governing body announcements
[42:12] by saying congratulations to our city manager,
[42:15] Justin Clifton on being named City Manager of the Year.
[42:17] I think that's pretty cool.
[42:18] I'd like a round of applause for him, please.
[42:23] You look so distinguished on that magazine cover, you know?
[42:26] It's very nice.
[42:29] I also had the privilege and honor of attending the ribbon cutting for the Mission Hope
[42:33] Empowerment Village ribbon cutting.
[42:36] Lenar Holmes went in there and redid a lot of the structures.
[42:41] They took a two-car garage and made it into a beautiful ADU for one of their administrators
[42:46] that oversees the property 24-7.
[42:49] and it was absolutely wonderful.
[42:52] It was just so nice to see that.
[42:53] Went to the storm stadium on the 20th
[42:56] and watched our wonderful fabulous athletic mayor
[43:00] throw the ball and did a good job.
[43:02] So that was Marietta Knight, that was super fun.
[43:05] And then I had the privileges going back out there
[43:07] the next night and representing RTA,
[43:09] which I did not throw the ball so well as he did.
[43:12] So we'll just leave it at that.
[43:14] I attended the Marietta, I didn't attend this.
[43:17] I went through it.
[43:21] No, I was not.
[43:22] On the way back from the storm stadium, I did not even have a drink.
[43:25] I went through the DUI checkpoint.
[43:28] And it was amazing to see how really and truly professional our team was.
[43:36] It was also amazing to see how many people turn around illegally to avoid it,
[43:39] which I thought was something.
[43:41] And it did take a little while to get down to one lane and go through it.
[43:45] but finding people without driver's license, without insurance.
[43:49] And I don't believe there was one person under the influence,
[43:52] but we did cite a lot of people for driving without a license
[43:55] and all of that.
[43:57] So it is a way of keeping our community safe
[43:59] and I'm very proud of that.
[44:00] So thank you Chief.
[44:01] That was a well-run program that night.
[44:04] I also attended the Rose Again Foundation fundraiser
[44:07] along with Council Member Stone,
[44:08] which is a lovely evening, helping foster kids who age out.
[44:12] my ladies at the NOLs, we had a great meeting and I am proud to announce that in the metal
[44:18] art community that the neighborhood watch program has come to life and over 77 homes
[44:23] have signed up for the program and thanks to the police department coming out, getting
[44:28] that set up with all the residents and it is already proved to be a very good program.
[44:33] So that concludes my governing body announcements and reports and if you need me, my email is there.
[44:39] Don't feel free to contact me. Thank you mayor. Thank you councilmember force you're up. Thank you mayor
[44:45] Tough hack to follow. Thank you so much. I'm excited for our meetings to resume for the Riverside County
[44:53] Habitat Conservation Agency and Animal Friends of the Valley. We've been dark for the summer
[45:00] And so those are due to start up. Now that we are in this amazing month of September, so you can see the events that I attended. We've had several meetings here at the city to discuss hillside ordinance and rate changes for our our trash service as well. I attended the myriad of night storm stadium, quite a lot of fun. Thanks so much for a great throw.
[45:29] Mayor Lavelle, that was very good right over the plate.
[45:33] You made him stretch a little, but it was good.
[45:36] So after I, yeah, it was a curve that curved a little extra, that, hey, it was well over
[45:44] the plate.
[45:44] That's the most important, right?
[45:46] So left the storm stadium and went to Mary at a market night, which was absolutely gorgeous
[45:54] night.
[45:54] and it was bustling full of people.
[45:57] The expansion of myriad of market nights is a success,
[46:02] and they have a waiting list.
[46:04] They were telling me for new vendors to come.
[46:07] So that was really nice to see.
[46:10] And some of the suggestions they made for the businesses
[46:14] along Washington there, they had spaces for businesses.
[46:19] So it was really nice to see some of the things that we discussed
[46:22] and asked for come to fruition and I have two pictures of a road closure and a road opening.
[46:32] So I think I've been asking for a very long time for Hayes Bridge. So Hayes Bridge is officially
[46:38] open and it takes a little while to realize that we can go over that. So thank you so much to staff.
[46:44] I know that was a challenge which was supposed to be a quick easy emergency fix that wasn't.
[46:49] So thank you for making sure our water quality and all of the things that you went through were up to par with a nice
[46:57] beautiful bridge
[46:58] It does look narrower than it was, but it isn't
[47:02] The big guard rails
[47:05] They even did some protection for us that we're just getting used to going over that bridge by putting cones along the side
[47:13] That was a nice start to get people used to that
[47:16] So thank you so much for making sure that community on the west side is safe and that bridge is wide open. So thank you for that.
[47:26] I have been meeting with a lot of local business owners about apartment parking.
[47:31] Apartment parking that is occurring in various different businesses over the weekends and cars being left.
[47:37] So that's something that people are discussing as well as seeing a lot of cars parked in retail areas as well.
[47:45] So that's something that I know that I have spoken with the chief about and he has been very proactive in helping that situation.
[47:54] So thank you to our chief for that as well.
[47:58] I did attend the Mirrietta, Wildemar Chamber of Commerce Award celebration.
[48:02] It was great, a lot of fun.
[48:04] John brought his date, as you can see in the picture, so which was so darn cute.
[48:11] and so it was amazing. Congratulations to everyone that was nominated and that won. Also a new name, a new name change. We're excited for that.
[48:22] The Chamber of Southwest Riverside County. So that was a lot of fun. The confetti that was shot out at the very end, I think that I had lost a few years of my life because of that.
[48:32] and no idea but that was quite fun and it was nice to I know we're coming up to the field of
[48:38] honor and it was really amazing to see Lou Allen get the Chairman's Choice Awards. That was
[48:47] beautiful so she's such a hard worker and I know she's already been by the office to get a sponsorship
[48:53] so she's really pushing to make this years a field of honor great and as I was sitting there
[49:00] at the award celebration. I realized it was 66 years of awards for the Chamber of Commerce.
[49:06] That's a lot older than our city. Almost double our city's age. That's amazing. So,
[49:10] that's off to the Chamber for keeping it real and keeping it alive, because I know that's
[49:14] very difficult. So, if you need to reach out to me, you can reach out to me via email or if you want
[49:20] a quicker response, feel free to text me or call at that number at the bottom. So, thank you all,
[49:26] and I appreciate it. Thank you, Mayor. And I will forward you the picture of your date.
[49:30] Thank you very much. You're welcome. Yeah. You know, I, I have no bridge expert, but I know that when
[49:36] you go from a forerunner to a Ford Bronco Raptor, the bridge does get smaller because your vehicle got bigger.
[49:42] Uh, yeah. Uh, that, that's all. Thank you. Um, Councilman Stone, you're up.
[49:47] I thank you, Mayor Lavelle. So I have some very exciting news. I know that many of our residents
[49:54] are kind of tired of the traffic congestion, and I've been leading-
[50:00] Meeting the effort in southwest Riverside County with the elected leaders collaborative. And the last two years, we've been meeting to discuss how we can address traffic congestion. For those that don't understand our overpasses that are adjacent to our freeways, CalTRANs owns those signals. So when we want to do signal synchronization, it's been very frustrating to work with CalTRANs.
[50:29] Thank God for Assembly Member Kate Sanchez, who brought forward legislation AB 2307 and
[50:39] also Senator Kelly-Ciato, co-sponsored that legislation.
[50:44] It's gone through the entire process and as I reported at our last council meeting that
[50:50] it was sitting on the governor's desk for his signature and on Friday, he signed AB 2307 into law.
[50:58] So, what does that mean? That means CalTrans is forced to work with all the cities, and we will be putting together a study that we predict will save a minimum of 10 minutes of travel time between our neighboring cities instead of entering our freeways.
[51:17] So Marietta led that effort, I want to thank Councilmember Cindy Warren, who was my partner in all of this and her knowledge in the commission that she sits on with transportation.
[51:30] She was very instrumental with the knowledge in bringing forward solutions.
[51:35] So thank you, Councilmember Warren.
[51:37] And how awesome is that for Marietta to lead this effort?
[51:41] In addition, we hear you about high-density development and while many of the residents are
[51:55] misinformed about the state mandates, we're letting you know that the state controls
[52:02] those high-density development.
[52:05] We, the city, again, Mayor Pro Tem, Ron Holiday and I are leading the state effort for
[52:14] a constitutional amendment.
[52:16] I want you to know that between Mayor Pro Tem, Holiday and I addressing this with many
[52:23] cities up and down the state of California and also other partnerships that will be very
[52:32] instrumental in supporting us for this constitutional amendment.
[52:38] And we are going to be presenting before the California League of Cities next week to present
[52:48] a resolution.
[52:50] And we are praying and hoping that the Housing Policy Committee will accept this resolution.
[52:56] and a week later, it will go before the members to vote.
[53:02] If this happens, our voices, again, will be heard.
[53:06] The state will be forced to have the cities at the table because high-density development is not a one-size-fits-all for every community.
[53:14] So when it comes to traffic congestion, when it comes to high-density development,
[53:18] I will tell you that Mariette is definitely leading the state with the state in these conversations.
[53:27] In addition, you will see a list of all of my meetings, but there's one very important meeting that I'd like to share with you, and that was, I hosted a town hall meeting yesterday.
[53:39] I invited the mayor where we spoke to the youth in District 4.
[53:45] We wanted to give our youth an opportunity to have their voices heard with regards to safety, education.
[53:55] The kids from the ages from 14 to 17 were respectful.
[54:00] They came prepared with very, very good questions.
[54:05] Our chief responded, our city manager responded.
[54:08] We had our state representatives from Kate Sanchez and Kelly C. Arto, and our mayor who also is an advocate motorcycle rider, gave his input as well.
[54:21] And it was a great dialogue and it will be perfect for tonight as we discuss our new policy.
[54:30] With that you can review all of my meetings and my contact.
[54:34] And Mr. Mayor, if I may at this time address the consent calendar portion of my
[54:41] governing body announcements, I would appreciate it.
[54:43] Thank you so much.
[54:45] At our last city council meeting, there was an item on our consent calendar.
[54:51] And on April the 7th, our council spoke about ad hoc and standing committees.
[54:58] And I was not-
[55:00] That city council that night to see the dialogue, and I decided to review that meeting so I could be prepared for our Council meeting two weeks ago. There was some information that was said that I want to clarify some facts. Council member DeForest had a conversation about a standing committee. And our mayor
[55:30] had some questions for her about staff time, the allotted staff time to this standing committee.
[55:39] And she answered all of his questions.
[55:42] But Councilmember DeForest spoke about an event called a day in her shoes.
[55:48] And I wanted to clarify, a day in her shoes is a private event.
[55:55] The ownership of this event is Oak Grove.
[56:00] I wanted to make sure that everyone understood that there is zero time allocated from our staff for the logistics of this private event.
[56:11] Just like our standing committees, we have a support system from Isaac for our constitutional amendment in our Assistant City Manager.
[56:21] So, I just wanted to let my colleagues know that there is zero staff time allocated to that event, except for we have had public safety twice to this event, and along with our mental behavior health care solace, and our homeless outreach have been speakers at this event to educate the community about the services that directly impact our community.
[56:49] So, I just wanted to clarify that there is zero staff time allocated for this private event owned by Kass, by Oak Grove.
[56:59] So, thank you, Mr. Mayor.
[57:00] Thank you very much to one of the previous comments, the assembly bill.
[57:05] I find it interesting that we had to get a bill drafted and to put into law to make California Department of Transportation work with cities.
[57:16] You would think that would be their job already?
[57:18] Yes, legislation to force a government agency to have a seat at our table.
[57:24] This is what we've come to here in the state of California, Mr. Mayor.
[57:27] Good work regardless, Mr. Holliday, Mayor Prozim.
[57:31] Thank you, on that note, one of the first things I did when I got elected was I set up a meeting with CalTrans and our traffic department to discuss this issue because the intersections at the freeways are a major cause of problems going across town.
[57:48] And at that meeting, it was expecting a fight, and CalTrans said almost three and a half years ago now,
[57:56] yeah, no problem. You can have control over those, and we've done it before,
[58:01] and here's the agreement, and yeah, no problem. Three and a half years later, we have to have
[58:07] thanks to Councilmember Warren and Councilmember Stone for carrying that torch forward.
[58:13] had to have legislation done to get them to even do part of what they said and they're still not doing everything they said.
[58:20] So it'll be interesting going forward how much harder this is going to be now that we have a law on our side.
[58:27] Anyhow, for my governing body report, I had our first Santa stop meeting.
[58:35] It got delayed because Joni Wadoiac who handles the volunteer side of it was ill so we had
[58:43] to postpone it but staff has been doing a great job on parts that the city has to do.
[58:50] We're looking at new transportation options so it'll be interesting to see how that's received
[58:54] by the city but it's going to save a ton of money for that program and we're getting
[59:02] a good response from businesses supporting it, as we always have.
[59:06] So looking forward to that, we've got a couple more meanings and then we're going to be
[59:11] out doing our annual sandstops.
[59:13] It's only going to run for one week this year, the week of December 7th.
[59:20] There are still more sponsorships available.
[59:22] If you go to mirroredesandestops.org, there's all the information on sponsorships there for
[59:28] businesses of all different sizes and consponsored different levels.
[59:31] The nice thing if you do a sponsorship of $2,500 or more, your logo on the advertising
[59:39] is set right above Santa and Mrs. Clause, so when the pictures are taken that is the
[59:44] background.
[59:46] So it's great for any business that wants to have their logo in everybody's family
[59:52] photos forever.
[59:55] And then we're doing a, we tried it last year, but it was kind of...
[1:00:00] Created two lights so we didn't really get the message out. We have something for real letters where if they market a certain neighborhood they can sponsor a route or a stop and will put a sign out for them with their logo and stuff and they can actually come to that stop and talk to the residents and get exposure that way. So those two sponsorships are available. And volunteers, you can start signing up now.
[1:00:27] I think it's 16 is the age limit. 16 is the age limit for younger adults.
[1:00:33] They do get community service credit for that.
[1:00:37] So for those needing community service credit,
[1:00:39] it's a great way to spend an evening.
[1:00:41] I mean, you're not gonna find anything more fun to do.
[1:00:45] You see the faces on all these little kids
[1:00:47] getting to see Santa for the first time getting a candy cane
[1:00:50] and all my colleagues can attest
[1:00:52] because some of them didn't know what it was.
[1:00:55] And then when we did the first one, it's like,
[1:00:56] oh, yeah, this is great.
[1:00:58] So Muria residents kind of said they wanted to see this back.
[1:01:02] and so now it's been back ever since and we'll continue.
[1:01:07] We, Councilmember Sonai had multiple ballot initiative meetings.
[1:01:11] We've gotten some great response from cities across the state looking forward to getting
[1:01:15] this past the housing committee at CalCities, past the resolution committee at CalCities and
[1:01:22] then ultimately presenting it.
[1:01:23] We are invited to share a booth with our neighborhood voices group who is helping us with
[1:01:32] this effort and we're going to be handing out I think you're going to print about 600 cards
[1:01:38] out about what this is about and just just for the cities so we're not looking to use
[1:01:44] SERP states authority we're not looking to not build housing we're not looking to do that
[1:01:47] what we're looking to do is have the states say look here's our goals and create legislation
[1:01:55] and has enough flexibility that cities can make it right for them.
[1:02:00] Not every city wants 10-story high-rise apartment buildings down every major corridor.
[1:02:07] Some cities might.
[1:02:09] San Francisco might want to, I think they have a 60-story apartment building complex
[1:02:14] that's being proposed down there for more housing.
[1:02:17] They might.
[1:02:18] So far the laws in the state of California haven't solved the housing crisis
[1:02:23] and far as quantity and cost at all, zero.
[1:02:26] The cost has gone up, and not as much housing as being built as needed.
[1:02:31] So, that's a process that we'll be working on through the end of this year.
[1:02:37] Thank you for that.
[1:02:39] Almost as good as the train lady.
[1:02:45] We're going to typing.
[1:02:47] I went to a couple events, I didn't have any of my committee reports to report
[1:02:52] We're down on the Hotsprings resort for the Will the Mar, the marital of the Southern, what is it?
[1:03:00] The Southern Chamber, Patrick, the Southern Chamber, the good old chamber, right?
[1:03:07] So that was a great event, 66 years is certainly a long time.
[1:03:11] Thank you for continuing to raise the bar, Mr. Patrick.
[1:03:14] I will say that Danny hates you about as much as the mailman now.
[1:03:17] So the loud confetti kin and I made sure she knew it was you that did that.
[1:03:24] So she's a very patonatious dog, so be careful.
[1:03:27] And then, got to see Congressman Calvert there, talked to him a little bit about El Nino.
[1:03:34] I had no idea.
[1:03:35] It was the thing this year, and you hear about it all the time.
[1:03:38] Well, I didn't think, I mean, I've been in my house and are in this city with no rain for six months.
[1:03:43] So, he mentioned that the off coast temperature in the water was, I mean, I think low 80s off one of the buoy measures.
[1:03:52] And that is absolutely incredible.
[1:03:55] So he was a little concerned about this upcoming rain
[1:03:59] we have starting in the desert.
[1:04:00] And I'm kind of with him on that one.
[1:04:02] It's a, if that's an indicate,
[1:04:04] he said something about the temperature,
[1:04:08] I'll probably butcher this,
[1:04:10] but the relation to the temperature
[1:04:11] and how they measure what an El Nino will be,
[1:04:14] this one will be the worst
[1:04:15] or the most impactful one in a hundred years.
[1:04:18] So, get your surfboards out.
[1:04:20] And that's all I got, it's been a nice August, last September's here, and there's how you reach me at the email, and then my cell phone's probably on there somewhere too on the website.
[1:04:33] But if we reach out for anything any time, thank you very much, and let's move on to non-agenda public comments.
[1:04:42] Madam City clerk, do we have any of those?
[1:04:44] Thank you, Mr. Mayor, we do have non-agenda public comments as a reminder members of the public may participate in this meeting in person or remotely using Microsoft Teams or the telephone option provided on the meeting agenda.
[1:05:00] If you wish to address the city council remotely, please use the raise your hand feature as the public comment period for the item before the item begins. Please note, participant cameras and chat features are disabled during the meeting. I will call speakers in the following order. Those present and council chambers follow those by those remote.
[1:05:21] Moises, Kovarubias.
[1:05:35] Good afternoon mayor and council city members. Good to see you. It's a pleasure to be here. Today I'm taking a moment to talk about government weaponization.
[1:05:45] It's something that has come up in our politics, President Trump was, and I don't think he
[1:05:52] is anymore, but he was a victim of government weaponization, just to mention a few rep
[1:05:57] Luna.
[1:05:58] In our communities, unfortunately, a lot of elderly folks, women, veterans, which is really
[1:06:06] sad.
[1:06:07] And then a lot of minority groups, or groups that are not as visible in our communities are
[1:06:12] all victims, or tend to be victims more often.
[1:06:17] In government weaponization takes a lot of forms, you know, currently we're in a modern
[1:06:24] era, so a lot of it is technological or electronic, what we've heard of discussed as electronic
[1:06:30] harassment.
[1:06:32] This comes in the form of voice to school, patent U.S. 4877027A, remote neuromondering patent
[1:06:38] U.S. 3951134A.
[1:06:42] Now, with voice to skull, it's basically a microwave auditory effect.
[1:06:48] Basically, you can hear stuff, noise disturbances, and I just see my time is kind of running down.
[1:06:53] I know this is an unpleasant thing to talk about, but I would just urge you guys not to run down my time.
[1:07:01] The other thing, okay, remote neuron monitoring, mind reading.
[1:07:04] This is basically either the reading of brainwaves and altering of brainwaves.
[1:07:13] RF frequencies is another electronic harassment that a lot of people experience.
[1:07:22] I'll also here to promote targetedjustice.com, which is the leading organization that is helping
[1:07:29] folks who are suffering from this government weaponization, go to targetadjustice.com.
[1:07:36] If you feel like you are experiencing this, it's also a great source to learn more.
[1:07:40] You don't have to take my word for these things.
[1:07:43] The other thing I was going to talk about is this, there's many forms that this takes with
[1:07:48] President Trump, he suffered legal warfare, which I actually am also a sufferer in a victim.
[1:07:53] Currently, unfortunately you have to mention, I have false allegations against me, I'm dealing
[1:08:01] with criminal things in a lot of things in court.
[1:08:05] Here at Southwest Justice Center, unfortunately, I have seen fraudulent or corrupt behavior
[1:08:16] from judges like Judge Knight, Judge Judith Clark, also attorneys,
[1:08:22] Lori Reems, Aaron Cretzer, and Kara Hailing, just to name a few.
[1:08:28] And I'm sorry to call people out like that, but anyway.
[1:08:34] Great, let me just wrap it up here.
[1:08:35] Thank you for the time.
[1:08:37] I'll just say that I'll give you 10 more seconds.
[1:08:41] Thank you so much.
[1:08:41] I'll just say that currently the government is compensating victims,
[1:08:47] Havana syndrome, sufferers, corporate entities, like eBay are
[1:08:51] dishing out, recently dishing out $55.7 million to a couple who suffered from this.
[1:08:58] All right, that's, that's 10, I'm going to cut you off, sorry.
[1:09:01] Thank you so much, and yeah, thank you, good day.
[1:09:04] Jennifer Evans.
[1:09:17] Okay, now you've messed it up because I said she was the first one to get it and you have one.
[1:09:21] but that's okay, you can be buddies.
[1:09:22] That's okay.
[1:09:24] My name is Jennifer Evans.
[1:09:26] I'm the Director of Development for Special Olympics for Southern California.
[1:09:31] And this is Kristen just to let you know we are so honored tonight,
[1:09:35] because she is a gold medalist in Marietta, and she is your resident,
[1:09:39] and she brought home the gold for you.
[1:09:41] So, yeah, all right.
[1:09:44] It's swimming, correct?
[1:09:46] Swimming.
[1:09:46] And swimming, and now she's in botchyball.
[1:09:49] Yeah, and she has had the opportunity to go to Greece and actually compete because of special Olympics.
[1:09:54] Special Olympics was founded in 1968 by Unice Kennedy-Striver because she said
[1:10:00] That everyone deserves a place to belong, and to be loved, and to be celebrated. So that's what we're doing. You may know me from Michelle's place. I've been there for many years, and when Special Olympics called, and I got the job, there was two things that people said. They said, oh my gosh, that's so great. You do the games every four years. So much more than that. We are in, actually, Marietta Vista has your, one of your nation's leading unified programs, and we are very proud of that, where we are partnering with our agenda students.
[1:10:29] with special education students
[1:10:31] and teaching them that we all belong in this world, right?
[1:10:35] So, and we're doing competitions all year round, right?
[1:10:38] We are very busy people, right?
[1:10:41] And the other thing they said to me is,
[1:10:42] when are you moving?
[1:10:43] And I was like, oh, that's a whole my beer moment
[1:10:45] because I'm like, there's so much more that needs to be done.
[1:10:48] And it's just telling the stories of people like Kristen,
[1:10:51] that even though there are certain intellectual disabilities
[1:10:54] that may keep her from doing certain things
[1:10:56] when she's a special Olympics
[1:10:58] And a law enforcement officer like Chief Henry and Captain Parker, put that medal around her neck, how's that feel?
[1:11:05] Wonderful, wonderful, pretty awesome, and they do that on their own time, even beyond saving us from all the things they save us from, they come as well.
[1:11:15] Trying to get fire involved also, Maloy, but Maloy said it best at the end of this, he said involvement matters, involvement really does matter.
[1:11:24] So what do we need from you?
[1:11:27] There's a couple of things we just need you to help us tell our story.
[1:11:30] We need volunteers, nothing works without volunteers.
[1:11:33] We have a four to one ratio, and we could have athletes, but if we don't have coaches,
[1:11:37] it really doesn't matter.
[1:11:39] And also, it's no call store athletes to go to Greece, to compete, to be a part of their
[1:11:44] community.
[1:11:45] And we do that because we raise funds.
[1:11:47] One of them being the Temecula Torch Run, which is coming up, is their 25th year, it
[1:11:52] is on September 20th.
[1:11:53] there's a challenge thrown out that's dropping on Thursday between Mayor Alexander and Mayor LaVelle.
[1:12:00] They've been doing some on the scene, sorry, run out of time, but behind the scenes shooting and we're going to see who which city is the best.
[1:12:09] I'm not opposed. Patrick sold my idea because when I was talking Chief Henry, what did we say?
[1:12:15] We could call it the Southwest, right? Torch Run, and here comes Patrick.
[1:12:21] So anyway, it's fine, so we'll wrap up our time, but please support this.
[1:12:27] Please support your mayor because if you guys lose on which city raises the roast most money, there's a punishment involved.
[1:12:35] And he thinks that he thinks that he's going to take on mayor Alexander, so I can't wait to see what happens.
[1:12:42] Thank you so much.
[1:12:43] Thank you very much and congratulations, that's awesome.
[1:12:46] Thank you for your time.
[1:12:52] So she just let the cat out of the bag. I've all been told all of you to participate. I don't know how you're going to do that yet, but you're going to at the event on September 20th.
[1:13:03] Yeah, and we're going to do our PD has a team officially already. We're going to be if you're available. We're going to be there in spirit.
[1:13:10] And I'm going to run for sure you guys can join me. You don't have to.
[1:13:16] Again, to make those entire city council, I want to make an all-challenged just me,
[1:13:21] I'll wear, you know, we'll do something fun where it wouldn't ice them to get a little
[1:13:26] competitive.
[1:13:27] So, I think I'm worried about Brennan, and that's about it.
[1:13:31] Yeah.
[1:13:32] Brennan.
[1:13:34] Okay.
[1:13:35] Sorry.
[1:13:36] Moving on.
[1:13:37] James Johnson.
[1:13:38] Everyone,
[1:13:46] my name is James. I am a resident at the Arbors on Caloaks, and I'm also a student
[1:13:53] and a captain on the MSJC debate team. But today, unfortunately, I have to bring the
[1:13:59] mood down just a little bit. I'm here to just lodge a formal complaint about the prevalence
[1:14:05] that we see of flock cameras all over our city and just in general. I believe that they
[1:14:10] are a violation of our right to privacy. And specifically, what I'd like to talk about
[1:14:14] today is the Hawthorne effect. This is something that is used in the advertisement of flock
[1:14:21] very publicly. The idea is that people who believe that they are being watched are less likely
[1:14:27] to act out in some way. This is used primarily in their advertising as a way to deter crime.
[1:14:33] But that also means that people who may just want to be by themselves and sing to themselves,
[1:14:40] or do anything where they're trying to explore their identity in some way,
[1:14:43] They're less likely to do so if they believe that they're constantly being watched.
[1:14:47] A good example of this is a man I saw online who believed that he was completely by himself
[1:14:53] with no idea of that anyone was watching him but was being monitored by a flock
[1:14:57] camera who went to a public park and just went
[1:15:00] I went and began swinging back and forth on a public swing. I can't imagine that a man in his mid-30s or older would go on a public swing knowing that he would be being watched. And again, that may not seem like something that is that big of a deal, but I believe it is very important to us as people to have our ability to enjoy ourselves and express ourselves without constantly being watched. I understand that many people will make the argument that these cameras are
[1:15:29] a means of safety, but really I think that we as Americans, and especially here in our city,
[1:15:35] we value our privacy over our safety. I think that's just a thing that we across the board
[1:15:41] and our nation believe in. There are other places around the world where security is more important
[1:15:46] in privacy. I don't think that holds here in America.
[1:15:51] Also, I just did take a look while I was sitting
[1:15:53] here. Just this, Mary at a sports park, which is where I take my dog and a walk. I know there are at
[1:15:59] at least four cameras, I got 40 seconds left, sorry about that.
[1:16:02] I know there are at least four cameras there, and just looking up the bill for that.
[1:16:06] It was $200,000 almost in tax dollars that went into putting those up.
[1:16:12] And there's a recurring annual cost of $87,750, $50, and one cent every year of tax dollars that goes into that.
[1:16:20] And I mean, we could be using that on so many other projects like infrastructure things that really go to benefit our community.
[1:16:26] instead of watching our people like a hawk.
[1:16:31] The last thing I want to say is that these cameras are accessible to anybody who pays for them and are not that hard to hack.
[1:16:38] And that means that especially places like the myriad of sports park where there's 24-7 live coverage and archived footage.
[1:16:46] There are anyone can access these cameras and anyone can access those cameras and track children, and I think that's a problem.
[1:16:58] Okay, thank you for your comments.
[1:17:00] Thank you so much.
[1:17:02] Anna Flague.
[1:17:11] Thank you.
[1:17:12] She requested the pass because her question was already answered.
[1:17:16] Thank you, Mr. Mayor.
[1:17:38] I am with Oak Grove Center, I just wanted to be here just briefly to clarify a comment
[1:17:45] about April 7th about the meeting on April 7th regarding the day and issues and Oak Grove
[1:17:50] being the sole beneficiary of the event.
[1:17:52] Day and issues is actually an Oak Grove Center event and fundraiser, Oak Grove owns, organizes,
[1:17:58] produces and financially supports the event and the net proceeds benefit.
[1:18:01] it, Oak Grove program serving young adults going or aging out of foster care.
[1:18:07] But while Oak Grove is the beneficiary, Dana Shuse has never been exclusive about Oak Grove.
[1:18:13] Since the event was founded, by Council Member Laurie Stone, it has grown into a community
[1:18:19] platform where we intentionally bring together nonprofits, public agencies, businesses,
[1:18:24] community leaders, students to engage, connect and have meaningful conversations about issues
[1:18:30] who's affecting women in our community.
[1:18:32] In fact, Project Touch, which Council member
[1:18:36] DeFora specifically mentioned,
[1:18:38] was featured at a date and issues.
[1:18:40] This year is part of our session addressing mental health.
[1:18:45] We have also hosted women and non-profit sessions
[1:18:48] featuring CEOs in Michelle's place
[1:18:52] and Habitat for Humanity.
[1:18:54] And we are continuing that approach in 2027.
[1:18:57] Next year, we will feature conversations
[1:18:59] with women in military, women in finance, among other topics, and
[1:19:03] mill that, another local nonprofit will also participate in the event.
[1:19:08] So just simply wanted to make it clear, and set the record straight that a day and
[1:19:13] a choose is a no-growth event, and is the sole recipient of the proceeds.
[1:19:23] We are grateful for all the city's involvement, for Council Member Stone's vision in founding the event,
[1:19:28] and for all of the community partners who have helped make it what it is today.
[1:19:32] We hope you'll join us on Friday, March 5th at Maria Hot Springs Resort for a day in her shoes 2027.
[1:19:37] Thank you.
[1:19:37] What's the theme of this year's?
[1:19:39] We got military.
[1:19:40] Military right now.
[1:19:41] And women in finance and then some other specials that we don't want to say just yet.
[1:19:46] Thank you very much.
[1:19:47] All right, thank you.
[1:19:51] Thank you, Mr. Mayor.
[1:19:52] That concludes public comments and they're seeing none remote as well.
[1:19:57] Wow.
[1:19:57] Yeah, I would like to note though that if you are here.
[1:20:00] Chair for a public comment?
[1:20:05] Oh, Mr. Casson Klein, I'm sorry, I thought you withdrew.
[1:20:10] Best for last, here we go.
[1:20:31] Eurena, Jim of the Valley, connected by community. How are we connected?
[1:20:40] The main form is communication.
[1:20:43] Now not everybody is as boisterous as I am. One of the reasons I'm as boisterous as I am is I'm about 90% deaf in my left ear.
[1:20:52] Although as I mentioned a few months ago, I've started to wear my hearing aid here to these meetings
[1:20:56] because it's difficult for me as I sit usually back there to hear many of you.
[1:21:04] I was raised
[1:21:07] with the idea, if you have something meaningful to say, be heard.
[1:21:14] So without calling anyone out specifically, because that's not my purpose here
[1:21:19] but when staff is sitting back here giving presentations,
[1:21:24] when either of you are speaking, including Justin or the city attorney,
[1:21:31] it's imperative that you speak into the microphones and that we hear you.
[1:21:37] And I would say especially when the five of you and Justin and or the city attorney,
[1:21:42] and there are many times where I can't hear you and the public can't hear you.
[1:21:47] So, again, if we're truly connected by community and if what you have to say is meaningful, then please speak up.
[1:21:56] Thank you.
[1:21:59] Thank you.
[1:22:08] Thank you.
[1:22:08] You are heading items.
[1:22:10] The public comments, but I would like to make a note that if you are here for the e-bike item and you would like a public comment,
[1:22:17] to go ahead and bring up a speaker card up over here to the clerk.
[1:22:22] That's it, Mr. Mayor.
[1:22:23] Okay.
[1:22:23] Okay. Thank you. Moving on to the consent calendar. Are there any requests from any of our city council to pull items or recuse themselves from voting?
[1:22:35] I can't see anything. There's nobody on my list. I'd like to call for a motion a second for the approval of,
[1:22:46] do you have one?
[1:23:10] I
[1:23:20] didn't think I was in that map, but I'll recuse myself.
[1:23:24] City Clerk, I'm fine with recruising myself from that item.
[1:23:27] I'll recuse myself from item number five, as I own property within a thousand foot of this item.
[1:23:36] All right, thank you very much for that clarity.
[1:23:39] Let's call for a motion and a second for the approval.
[1:23:41] I got a motion by Mayor Pro Temmolity and a second by Councilman DeForest.
[1:23:45] Let's vote.
[1:23:46] Motion
[1:23:53] carries unanimously, 5-0, with noting the recusal for Councilmember de Forrest.
[1:23:59] Thank you very much.
[1:24:02] Okay, for the sole discussion of tonight, the most popular topic in America.
[1:24:07] E-bikes.
[1:24:10] We have the solution, I think.
[1:24:13] Right?
[1:24:37] Council, we're here for E-bikes.
[1:24:41] Buckle up.
[1:24:41] Here we go.
[1:24:42] So yeah, it is definitely a very popular topic that not just us, not just Southwest Riverside County, not just Riverside County, but Southern California, California and all over, as mentioned, it's an issue that law enforcement and public safety is dealing with and cities alike.
[1:25:00] And we're trying to do everything we can to help the e-bike issue in our city. So I'm going to give you a presentation about kind of the status of e-bikes and ordinances and what the police department is specifically doing for our city. I will have some statistics a little bit at the end and also some updates on the ordinance that we're looking to implement here for our city. And any sort of questions that you may have at the end, I'll be willing to answer.
[1:25:30] Just to kick it off, let me give you the main three types of e-bikes just so we know what
[1:25:35] we're talking about.
[1:25:36] There's three classes, one, two, and three.
[1:25:38] Class one is a pedal-assisted e-bike that is capable of going 20 miles an hour.
[1:25:45] Class two is actually operated with a throttle instead of pedals and it also can max out
[1:25:50] at 20 miles an hour.
[1:25:51] The class three is going to be your fastest e-bike and that is going to be pedal-assisted
[1:25:57] but just with more power and can reach speeds up to 28 miles an hour.
[1:26:04] The three classes of e-bikes that we just spoke about are different from what are e-motor cycles,
[1:26:09] or you might hear the brand name of SIRON. Those are basically an off-road dirt bike
[1:26:14] powered by electricity or a battery. As either not designed for riding on the street,
[1:26:21] any sort of roadways, bike lanes, sidewalks, or really anywhere that pedestrians would be,
[1:26:25] They most resemble a motorcycle, unfortunately we do see a lot of them on our streets and
[1:26:32] on our sidewalks, but they do have a distinct appearance different from the normal e-bikes
[1:26:38] I'll reuse the scene.
[1:26:39] And again, these can exceed up to or up in over 50 miles an hour because they basically
[1:26:44] are a motorcycle.
[1:26:49] One distinct thing about them is that you will not see pedals on the e-models, but you actually
[1:26:54] You may see pedals on e-motos because they're sold as an accessory and they offer zero function on the bike.
[1:27:01] It's really the only function is to, at first glance, an officer might think that it's not an e-moto and that it is an e-bike and not conduct a traffic stopper enforcement stop on that.
[1:27:14] And again, those are for off-road only.
[1:27:17] It's a quick overview of what we're seeing in the police department over the last couple years.
[1:27:22] And the numbers that you're going to see right here are actually the bare minimum.
[1:27:27] We had to change our call types.
[1:27:30] Basically we had to add a call type specific to e-bikes once we saw that they were gaining traction and we were getting more and more calls.
[1:27:37] So there were calls that we tracked in our CAD system that were e-bike related, but
[1:27:43] we're not identified as being e-bike related.
[1:27:45] So this number of 1369 is actually the lowest number that it could be.
[1:27:50] It's actually going to be more of the complaint.
[1:27:52] So what that's showing is over 1300 complaints.
[1:27:56] Those are calls into our dispatch center of citizens complaining about something e-bike-related.
[1:28:02] Either interfering with traffic, accidents, mobs of 3, 4, 5, 10 bikes riding down the street,
[1:28:09] doing wheelies, reckless driving, damaging property at our parks.
[1:28:12] So as you can see in a couple of years time, and exponentially in the last maybe year and a half to a year we've had
[1:28:20] 1369 there, but I can tell you it's probably upwards to 15 to 1600, maybe a couple more calls for service.
[1:28:27] That means at least one, the two officers are responding at least 1369 times just for
[1:28:35] bad e-bike riding, I guess we're lack of a better way of putting it.
[1:28:38] During that time, we've had 82 collisions involving e-bikes since there's really no protection other than a helmet for the riders.
[1:28:47] As you can see, 75 injuries have resulted from those collisions and one fatality.
[1:28:57] Why does this matter?
[1:28:59] The community concern residents, again, with those calls.
[1:29:03] We get them from residents, businesses, the schools, the parks, city staff, community services department.
[1:29:09] And everybody is calling us for problems with e-bikes.
[1:29:14] Who are we dealing with the most of the time?
[1:29:18] Juveniles, kids between 12 to 17 years old.
[1:29:21] With that comes sometimes not the greatest decision making.
[1:29:25] With these e-bikes, and we look at what it takes to drive a car.
[1:29:29] We have hours upon hours of education that are 16 or 15 year old must take.
[1:29:34] Six hours behind the wheel with a certified instructor.
[1:29:38] That person then needs to go down to the DMV and prove to the state that they know how to drive.
[1:29:43] We're now taking up to, or really we don't have an age limit yet in our city, but 11, 12, 13, 14 year olds throwing them into our streets,
[1:29:52] which we know are pretty crowded nowadays with lots of traffic and expect them to understand the rules of the road.
[1:29:58] What is a right away?
[1:30:00] What are they supposed to stop? Where are they supposed to ride? And when we're relying on a 12-year-old to make those decisions, it's not working. And again, the safety impact, not only for the riders, but when they do start interfering with our commuters and our drivers, it just makes it harder for them to get from point A to point B safely. And we've had plenty of drivers who have struck and been involved in these accidents. And it really takes a mental toll on our community members.
[1:30:29] when they're the ones driving the car that hits the 12 or 13-year-old and they're responsible for it or are a part of it, maybe not even being responsible, but just being a part of it.
[1:30:43] Just a high call volume. Complain activity has increased significantly over the second year of our review so I would have mainly been around the end of 24 and 25 with over 500 documented complaints.
[1:30:54] The highest call volume, as we're seeing because it's growing with every month that goes by our volume of calls and accidents is increasing.
[1:31:00] late 2025 and early 2026 is where we really saw the uptick and it was you know
[1:31:07] very noticeable that we had to start taking action to combat some of the issues
[1:31:11] that we're getting. Again in May of 26 that was our highest call volume so
[1:31:17] again it's it's growing. Where in our city are we seeing the majority of our
[1:31:22] problems? Many of you know that the corridor along Washington there's a
[1:31:25] Ralph shopping center. We get a very high influx from the high school in the middle
[1:31:29] school there after school on the weekends. Our Kellogg sports park we see a large group
[1:31:34] a lot of times. On the east end of our city via Merrimosa Park or we're starting to
[1:31:38] see more and more actually there. That started off kind of slow and they've caught up.
[1:31:43] So major traffic corridors, Kellogg's whitewood, Los Alamos, we're getting calls about those locations
[1:31:50] daily. And then a couple of the ones are listed as you can see.
[1:31:57] So really there's no area
[1:31:58] that's not dealing with it in our city right now.
[1:32:01] A little more analysis on the collisions,
[1:32:03] like I said, there was 82 documented collisions
[1:32:05] with 75 of injuries and one fatality.
[1:32:08] Again, these are going to be, and I'll point to it a little bit
[1:32:10] later where I show some statistics.
[1:32:13] But 82, I'm going to say is actually very, very underrepresent
[1:32:17] representative of how many accidents we've actually had.
[1:32:20] These are ones that the police have responded to,
[1:32:22] not ones in which have crashed and have been luckily able
[1:32:25] to get up and go home and be treated there or taken to a hospital.
[1:32:33] The main contributing factors to the collisions that we're seeing are the riders are predominantly
[1:32:39] the outfelt parties, not entirely, but I would say very large majority are the riders that
[1:32:45] are at fault.
[1:32:47] Failure and get here's the rules of the road that we're expecting them to follow that we're
[1:32:50] obviously seeing they're unable to.
[1:32:52] Failure to yield right away unsafe speed because some of these bikes can get up to over
[1:32:57] 60 miles an hour on the e-motos, stop sign violations, many of us know as we're driving down
[1:33:03] the streets, either on Madison, Washington, we don't see too many e-bikes stopping at
[1:33:08] our stop signs. It's almost just like they're not there. Traffic signal violations, improper
[1:33:13] turns, riding on the wrong way, and just the inability to safely navigate and make unsafe
[1:33:19] lane changes.
[1:33:21] One aspect, one of the several aspects that we do obviously is enforcement, just like traffic
[1:33:28] enforcement, we do conduct enforcement on the e-bike riders.
[1:33:32] During this time, we've had 10 directed operations, this is only going to include the specific
[1:33:37] operations where we take a group of officers and for a specific amount of time their job
[1:33:42] is e-bike enforcement.
[1:33:44] So we've had 10 actual directed operations.
[1:33:48] In those, we've had 146 traffic stops with 102 citations issued.
[1:33:54] But just as important, there's 84 warnings.
[1:33:57] So we're not out there just trying to lob as many tickets as we possibly can.
[1:34:03] We are doing warnings with the educational aspect of it.
[1:34:07] And with that, we've impounded 42 e-bikes.
[1:34:11] And those are predominantly going to be the e-models, the Surons, the actual motorcycles.
[1:34:16] And that's simply because you're driving out of class with our really, the bike can't be on the road.
[1:34:22] So plain and simple, a Suron and e-model, if it's driven on the road, it's going to more likely get impounded.
[1:34:29] And we have impounded Surons from riders who were 12 and 13 years old.
[1:34:38] The other things that we're doing, other than the enforcement action, our portion is education and prevention.
[1:34:43] We have partnered with the Meredith Valley Unified School District and created a comprehensive e-bike safety program with them.
[1:34:49] Just this last week and the week before, I have officers that were in front of upwards to four to 450 students in the first couple of weeks of class giving them.
[1:35:00] And educational, an educational course on e-bike safety in the rules of the road. Part of that class is further with the school district is a certification process for those who ride their bikes on campus. They have to take a class, sign a couple of documents, you know, saying they're going to abide by the rules and practice good safety. And they were getting a certification sticker that they place on their bike that allows them to bring that bike onto campus. If they do not have that sticker, that bike is not allowed on their campus.
[1:35:29] The additional things we're doing is trying to reach the parents.
[1:35:33] We're finding that there's a significant disconnect between the city, the police apartment, the riders, and the parents.
[1:35:41] There's a disconnect between everybody involved.
[1:35:44] Many of the parents that we speak to really don't understand the capabilities of a lot of these bikes.
[1:35:49] They've never actually gone out and got on them themselves or been out with their children while they've ridden.
[1:35:54] It's here's your bike and go join your friends.
[1:35:57] They don't know that they can go 28 miles an hour
[1:36:00] and they just handed it to their 12-year-old,
[1:36:02] or the serons in which they're going 50, 60 miles an hour.
[1:36:07] Community engagement with social media,
[1:36:08] and anytime we've done a couple of campaigns,
[1:36:11] just outlining good rules and good laws
[1:36:14] and just good writer safety.
[1:36:17] And then anytime we can get in front of people,
[1:36:19] like yesterday's meeting, we had a group of kids.
[1:36:22] Anytime we can get an audience
[1:36:23] that we can share the police department side or the city side on just safe writing, responsible writing, we're trying to do that, if it's national night out, if it's at any event, we're going to be willing to share some sort of knowledge to try to keep people safe.
[1:36:41] Again, with the enforcement is accountability, we're starting to take more and more accountability measures, and you'll see that little bit with our updated municipal code and what we're doing with our parents.
[1:36:53] We have now created a parent advisement form and what this form does is when we issue a citation or we see, you know, we contact some, some writers for some unsafe behavior.
[1:37:04] We will issue a form to the parents, which kind of just says, hey, we're putting you on notice that your child is, is writing irresponsibly and dangerous and could potentially either harm themselves or be the cause of harming others.
[1:37:17] And we're letting you know this, so if it happens again, there may be some accountability on your end that's coming whether it's going to be criminal charges, lawsuits from other people involved or fines from us.
[1:37:30] And again, just any sort of education that we can include the families in, we will be doing a voluntary course that our officers will be teaching that will be specifically kind of designed for the writers and their parents.
[1:37:43] because, again, just reaching that parent aspect has been difficult for us so far and we need to catch up on that.
[1:37:54] Again, kind of just a list of things that we have already done.
[1:37:56] We have done the increased direct enforcement, like I said, we've done 10 operations.
[1:38:00] We are using data-driven deployment to address the hotspots, which we've shown.
[1:38:04] So, you know, if I have to pick a group of officers to go to one location,
[1:38:08] I'm going to be looking at the data to where we're having the largest problems.
[1:38:12] I think probably the most important one on here is it's the next one, the school-based education and the certification program.
[1:38:19] That's where we're going to teach kids how to ride responsibly and safe.
[1:38:23] Expanded public outreach, the parent advisement is new, and I think once we are able to put some real accountability into the parents,
[1:38:30] and the word gets out that things are going to be on them, many have seen in Orange County.
[1:38:36] There's been several high-profile criminal charges against parents
[1:38:40] to where they could potentially be looking at prison terms if they found guilty.
[1:38:45] It's not just a citation anymore.
[1:38:47] The Orange County is looking to put parents that are negligent in jail.
[1:38:56] Things that we're looking to do for the future.
[1:38:58] Again, this expanding municipal code, which I'll be touching on in a second.
[1:39:03] For us, that is big for us.
[1:39:06] It just gives us another tool to utilize, to be able to contact riders.
[1:39:10] and again, either issue a citation or offer some education with warnings and just meet up with them and talk to them to advise them what they shouldn't should not be doing.
[1:39:20] Enhanced enforcement strategies, we have had to get creative with how we contact these writers and these kids.
[1:39:27] Many of the time, they don't simply stop refining as normal drivers do.
[1:39:33] When we turn on our lights and sirens, they take off, it's a joke, the phones come out and they start making videos.
[1:39:39] and they're off, and so we've had to adapt, which we have, and I'll leave it at that.
[1:39:47] Expanding the school partnership, again, we started with the certification program
[1:39:50] and the education classes we're giving, we're always going to be willing to talk
[1:39:55] and discuss with the district on anything else that any ideas that they may have or we may collaborate with.
[1:40:00] And we're open to whatever we think is going to help. We're going to continue with our social media and educating the public as much as we can. And again, using data. If you're not using data now in law enforcement or public safety, you're kind of all in behind. So our overall goal is not to prevent kids from enjoying their ebikes. We want them to be outside. We want them to be having fun. They're a great form of transportation when used appropriately and responsibly.
[1:40:26] We want them to enjoy them safely, responsibly, and while protecting writers, pedestrians, and motorists in our entire community.
[1:40:33] It's about safety, responsibility, and making sure everybody kits to and from where they want to go, and they make it home safely every night.
[1:40:41] And as you've seen, if you've been following the news, we have had some horrific accidents in this region.
[1:40:48] Our city next to us, Menophe, and then San Diego's recently had some, and also Riverside.
[1:40:53] Chief, am I an interject for a second?
[1:40:55] Absolutely.
[1:40:56] Everything you're saying, there's like a two things going on, right?
[1:41:02] And the e-bike, the pedal of the class 2s aren't the ones running from you guys and
[1:41:08] out of control, able to evade any type of deterrence, right?
[1:41:13] It truly is the e-motor cycle class that is moving out.
[1:41:16] I would not say entirely.
[1:41:18] We're definitely getting kids on the road.
[1:41:21] But they must be modded, I guess, then, or something.
[1:41:23] They're either modded or just like when we were growing up,
[1:41:28] we knew where to go.
[1:41:30] We knew the alleys to run down.
[1:41:31] We knew the trails to go on to where the police couldn't follow us.
[1:41:33] We knew how to get away, and they do, too.
[1:41:36] So even at 28 miles an hour or 20 miles an hour,
[1:41:39] if I know where to go and I can make that decision quick
[1:41:42] and I know I can't be followed, we're going into trails
[1:41:45] and things like that, washes, and yeah, we're seeing it all.
[1:41:50] All right, I'm sorry, continue.
[1:41:52] All right, so with the municipal ordinance, we've working with our city attorney on to update it and kind of evolve with what we're seeing.
[1:42:02] Without going over all of them because there are quite a few, this is a list and I can answer any questions on it and specifically that you might have in more detail.
[1:42:10] But these are what we have existing and then what we're proposing.
[1:42:14] Some of the main ones we talk about sidewalks, I think even sidewalk was brought up yesterday during our conversation is they are allowed to be on sidewalks, but we are looking to put speed limits based on the conditions.
[1:42:27] So when there are pedestrians present, we would prefer them down to about five miles an hour and then on a sidewalk regularly 10 miles an hour.
[1:42:37] Again, the parental accountability we're looking at, on repeat violations, we're looking to possibly cite parents, along with their children.
[1:42:48] Divergent program, we know you might make a bad decision once.
[1:42:54] So just like traffic school, we're going to offer a diversion program for those first time offenders to wear them and their parents, because again, we're dragging parents along every way we can.
[1:43:04] Again, it's going to be up to them, so not required, but voluntarily attend a course taught
[1:43:10] by our officers at the PD to go over, again, laws and rider safety.
[1:43:15] And if that's done, then we will get rid of the citation for them.
[1:43:21] But again, as you can see, there's quite a few here, so at the end, if there's anything
[1:43:25] specific, I can go in a little more detail about them.
[1:43:30] RUHS, Riverside University Health System recently released some data and this is what I would
[1:43:36] really like to share with you.
[1:43:38] So for 2025, this chart that you see up here right now depicts emergency room visits.
[1:43:43] When I spoke earlier about the amount of collisions that we've had and thought I thought it was
[1:43:47] a low number, that's because we're seeing actually a higher number at RERs.
[1:43:53] So not everybody is having an officer respond and take a report.
[1:43:57] So as you can see out of all the cities listed here in Riverside County in 2025,
[1:44:03] if you can't see the writing, the largest bar is ours.
[1:44:08] That's myriata.
[1:44:10] Next to it is Tamacola, very similar like cities.
[1:44:13] As you can see, not only are we in the lead, we're leading a lot of cities by a lot.
[1:44:18] So it is a real problem for us here in our city.
[1:44:23] Even a city like the size of Riverside which is 320, 330,000 people, we have 30 more.
[1:44:34] Who is going to the ER?
[1:44:36] Unfortunately, it's the age group of 10 to 14 as you can see our most.
[1:44:42] And then you can bring it up to 15 to 24, but I can tell you just from experience that it's more 15, 16, 17.
[1:44:49] So I would say between 10 and 17 is where our vast majority of ER visits are going.
[1:44:56] As I just between the 10 and 14, we're looking at 335.
[1:45:00] I have kids that ended up in the ER, because they view bikes.
[1:45:08] This graph is going to show you the exponential growth of e-bikes. In 2021, that's how many people went to the emergency room. Very, very, very few. We've had a 25 times increase just in five years, as you can see in 2026, and not just 2026, but just to July, obviously, because we just hit September. So seven months of the year, we are already at over a thousand years.
[1:45:34] on ER visits, compared to what we were in 2021,
[1:45:38] which barely shows.
[1:45:40] The gap, as I said, we've gotten busy
[1:45:42] in the last year, year and a half.
[1:45:44] As you can see in 2024,
[1:45:46] we were somewhere around the 500 mark,
[1:45:48] and we've doubled that in a year and a half.
[1:45:52] I'm sorry, 105% from 24 to 25.
[1:45:57] So by the end of the year,
[1:45:58] that number will be considerably more.
[1:46:04] As it breaks out, there's a male to female.
[1:46:06] obviously boys do a lot more dumb things and this chart just kind of shows that to
[1:46:12] where it's it's again we're not the best riders and the different types of
[1:46:20] injuries fortunately a lot of the injuries are just going to be the superficial
[1:46:24] you're falling down scraping you know maybe some scratches a little bit a little
[1:46:29] bit of cuts but with that if you look at some of the other ones there are
[1:46:33] major wounds or fractures or compound fractures open wounds traumatic brain
[1:46:36] and injury and pretty dislocation.
[1:46:39] So you're falling off a bike at a high speed
[1:46:42] or you're being struck by a vehicle while on a bike.
[1:46:45] You're pretty much guaranteed some sort of injury.
[1:46:53] Overall, what's a big picture?
[1:46:55] Again, we're not here to ruin everybody's fun
[1:46:57] and not allow people to ride.
[1:46:59] We want people to ride safe and responsibly
[1:47:02] and not interfere with our commuters and our city.
[1:47:06] So we're here to protect the riders,
[1:47:07] the pedestrians and the motorists
[1:47:10] and really just anybody that's commuting through our city.
[1:47:12] We want to prevent the accountability, either enforcement or with the parents unsafe behavior to stop collisions and again stop serious bodily injury.
[1:47:23] And to promote responsible riding and respect our roadways.
[1:47:26] Unfortunately with what we're seeing is, oftentimes they form groups, there's 3, 4, 5, 10, 15, 20 riders.
[1:47:37] and they have been really just taking over our streets on cowloafs and Madison and interfering with traffic,
[1:47:45] causing accidents that they might not be involved in, but they're causing other motorists to run into each other.
[1:47:51] Again, so we're just trying to promote responsible or unsafe riding.
[1:47:56] And that is the end of the presentation, so I can answer any sort of questions you guys may have.
[1:48:01] Great presentation. Thank you Chief for staying on top of a very fastly evolving topic.
[1:48:07] I mean, it seems like everything we do to mitigate the bikes get faster, or better, or create another thing to think about.
[1:48:16] So bring it back up to colleagues for questions, Mr. Holiday.
[1:48:20] Thank you, Mayor.
[1:48:21] Great presentation, thank you, Chief.
[1:48:24] As the mayor said, it is growing and ongoing problem, and we definitely need to stay on top of it.
[1:48:32] It's easier to be on top of a problem than it is to try and fix it after it's gotten out of control.
[1:48:38] not that it's not going that way.
[1:48:41] A couple of questions on your comments.
[1:48:43] You were just talking about Orange County
[1:48:45] that parents were being jailed?
[1:48:48] Yeah, there being a criminally charged.
[1:48:50] The two cases I can speak of specifically is one.
[1:48:55] The bike was modified by the parent.
[1:48:58] So you took an e-bike that was legal.
[1:49:01] You know, capped out at probably 20 miles an hour.
[1:49:04] Modified it and basically turns it into an e-bike.
[1:49:07] motor that can go in its speeds of excess of 50 miles an hour, 12-year-old slammed into
[1:49:13] the side of a car, injured himself, and I believe the father was charged criminally.
[1:49:18] And then another mother was charged after, I think, it caused the fatality, the passenger
[1:49:24] and it was bitch.
[1:49:26] She'd kind of already been warned like we're saying with the advisement form.
[1:49:29] You're put on notice of, if you need to have some accountability and be responsible for
[1:49:34] this and you're not.
[1:49:36] So, these jail sentences were from existing laws that are in place like child endangerments?
[1:49:41] Yes, they're going on child.
[1:49:43] They're not from some ordinance that orange did.
[1:49:47] Correct, okay.
[1:49:48] Regular penal code sections.
[1:49:49] Okay.
[1:49:50] If I could add, the DA has charged these parents, but no one's plead or been sentenced yet.
[1:49:55] So, we don't know yet what a court will do with it.
[1:49:57] Okay.
[1:49:57] but they're the point I wanted to-
[1:50:00] Make is that they're not due to a local ordinance or due to existing state or federal law. Correct. Okay.
[1:50:08] Has, and I'm not, I'm not saying I advocate for this. I'm just curious, have you looked into the possibility of requiring a license for any age, particular age? Is that even possible? I'll let our city attorney give the exact answer, but I'm going to say probably not. I think, you know, license are regulated by the state. I don't think we could interfere with the DMV, but.
[1:50:32] And then you're talking about specific speeds for different areas like sidewalks or parks or different things.
[1:50:42] Do these have a speedometer?
[1:50:44] Some do.
[1:50:45] Some do.
[1:50:46] The class three, I know do.
[1:50:48] And I believe the ones and twos might come with, you know, an attachment or a...
[1:50:53] Most of the newer ones app do.
[1:50:55] It's really only the low grade, month and year or less.
[1:50:58] I mean, you hardly seen it, but I think most do.
[1:51:00] Okay, thank you.
[1:51:02] And my last question is, what is the fine structure?
[1:51:06] I mean, it's our regular municipal code fine structure,
[1:51:09] which is 100, 200 and 500.
[1:51:11] So, first, second, and third, and anything after that.
[1:51:14] Within a 12-month period.
[1:51:16] And that fine is applied to the parent through the juvenile?
[1:51:21] No?
[1:51:22] The citation is initially going to go too well.
[1:51:25] If it's reciting the writer, it goes to the writer.
[1:51:28] I would be guessing on how that is collected or assigned.
[1:51:34] But the goal is, is obviously that they take the choice of not being fined and going through the safety course.
[1:51:40] Absolutely.
[1:51:41] And then not having a second offense.
[1:51:43] That's the goal.
[1:51:44] That's the goal.
[1:51:47] Oh, is there an impound fee?
[1:51:49] Yeah, if it is impounded, then you're going to go through the normal impound fees that you would for a vehicle.
[1:51:54] Do you know what that is?
[1:51:56] I do not.
[1:51:57] That's got to be more in the fine.
[1:51:58] It's got to be more in the fine.
[1:52:00] I've heard sub parents talk about upwards of $2,000.
[1:52:04] Yeah, just like if you're a vehicle, if you don't get it quickly, you're going to get charged each day.
[1:52:09] And I've heard, I don't know, I have no factual knowledge of the truth of this, but I've heard that there have been
[1:52:17] and serons and other illegal likes that have been impounded.
[1:52:24] And then within a matter of weeks, they're impounded again because the parent has gotten
[1:52:29] them out of impound, given them back to the kid, and the kid is doing the same thing.
[1:52:33] Absolutely.
[1:52:34] Is this ordinance going to help with that?
[1:52:38] Well, it does add some impounding, but again, if they're able to legally come and get, well,
[1:52:44] I guess there's different routes, if they can come and get their bike, just like a vehicle
[1:52:48] the motorcycle then they can legally come and do that. But now we're getting into what we're looking
[1:52:53] on the accountability aspect as if a parent is knowingly allowing their child to go out and
[1:53:00] repeatedly ride illegally that we are now able to hold them accountable. That's part of the new
[1:53:06] the new ordinance. Okay, great. Thank you very much. Yeah, but a significant part of the ordinance is
[1:53:12] is the parent accountability?
[1:53:14] Thank you very much.
[1:53:16] Councilor Warren.
[1:53:17] Thank you, Mayor.
[1:53:18] Thank you, Mayor Prokhan, for those questions.
[1:53:21] I do have several questions I would like to have some clarification on.
[1:53:25] First of all, what measures were taken to all the parents to let them know that this is a problem
[1:53:31] and what the differences are the bikes.
[1:53:34] Did the school stand a letter out to all the parents?
[1:53:36] How was, how was this addressed to all the parents?
[1:53:40] Which part of it?
[1:53:40] Okay, so we're going to institute a new policy, they can't come to school with their bikes without going through a certification class and getting a sticker that allows them to have their bikes.
[1:53:51] How did that get just sent out to all of the families in our school?
[1:53:56] I know there is a document that the school district created that does need to be signed by the current.
[1:54:01] Okay, very similar to a parking permit.
[1:54:03] Okay.
[1:54:05] I got several text messages and emails with my own daughter about that same thing on the daily, it seemed.
[1:54:11] Okay, I don't know, so that's why I am asking.
[1:54:14] What happens when a child decides not to follow the rules, which is part of the problem right now,
[1:54:20] and they write their e-bikes to school, and they don't have a sticker on them?
[1:54:23] Do you go and impound them, or do you call the parents?
[1:54:25] Do they call the parents to have them picked up?
[1:54:27] They don't get to write them back home, or do they?
[1:54:29] Well, that's the between them and the school district.
[1:54:32] Okay, it's their policy to not get them on the campus, not our policy.
[1:54:36] Okay, that's fine.
[1:54:36] I just wanted to know.
[1:54:40] Is there an age limit for children to be able to ride these bikes to and from school?
[1:54:45] A grade level or an age limit?
[1:54:46] No, not in our city.
[1:54:48] Not in our city?
[1:54:49] No.
[1:54:49] Okay.
[1:54:49] You might see it in San Diego County.
[1:54:51] They have a couple cities.
[1:54:53] And again, I can rely on our city attorney to explain how or the why, but they're able to.
[1:54:58] under some sort of stuff.
[1:54:59] Yeah, I can see.
[1:55:00] There was a special legislation creating a pilot program just for San Diego County. And that prohibits anyone under 12 riding any bike, but right now it only applies in San Diego. Okay. All right. There is for class three is a 16 year old or 16 years old. They need a motor vehicle license. That's a beautiful. A California vehicle, not on the class. I'm sorry. The class three is at an M1 they have to have or is it just a? Well, they're off road anyway. So you wouldn't have an M1. They're not street legal to begin with.
[1:55:30] How is our department handling multiple riders on one bike and those not wearing helmets, adult or juvenile?
[1:55:38] That's all part of the ordinances that we're having.
[1:55:40] So we're going to build in, I personally don't think the citations are high enough, did you tour this?
[1:55:47] And that's my personal opinion, I think sometimes you really need to hit them in the wallet in order to get someone to pay attention.
[1:55:53] I'm not saying that's the best process, but I'm just saying maybe these are very low.
[1:55:57] Maybe we can see some data on that down the road to see if that really is stopping some
[1:56:02] of this.
[1:56:03] My last item is adults are making mistakes too.
[1:56:08] I have witnessed personally several adults riding young toddlers on the handlebars in the
[1:56:14] front of their bikes, no helmets, no nothing, how do we get the word out to everybody?
[1:56:20] I mean, we really need to do something.
[1:56:21] So we're trying, I mean we, I'm not going to say we rely entirely on social media because we know not everybody's on social media.
[1:56:30] But that's one way of doing.
[1:56:31] We've done several week long social media campaigns for the laws and within new ordinance we will again launch a couple more social media campaigns.
[1:56:41] And again, it's just community outreach whenever we can possibly do it.
[1:56:44] meetings, even if it's smaller large, I guess you know, we had 12 to 14 writers.
[1:56:49] Well, that's 12 to 14 writers that didn't know before they walked through the door.
[1:56:53] Okay.
[1:56:53] And now they do, and they were responsible enough and polite enough to show up and listen to where I do believe that they will go to their friends in relay.
[1:57:02] Maybe not the entire message, but parts of our message that we gave them, I think they will.
[1:57:08] Have you had a, have you had a positive response from the parents on this?
[1:57:13] It depends on which ones you're talking to.
[1:57:15] Obviously.
[1:57:16] We still run into quite a few, why are you messing with my kid?
[1:57:20] Would you rather have him playing video games inside?
[1:57:23] Well, compared to writing into the side of an F250,
[1:57:26] yeah, I'd rather have them on video games.
[1:57:29] So unless we can get that accountability aspect
[1:57:31] and the responsible writing, yeah,
[1:57:34] might be a little safer for your child
[1:57:35] if that's the one that we're coming to you about.
[1:57:38] And would you agree with this statement
[1:57:39] that it's not just the riders that are at risk here.
[1:57:44] It's also the drivers of the cars because they are causing drivers to react in a way
[1:57:50] that they are not used to and causing more problems out on our roads.
[1:57:53] Is that correct?
[1:57:54] Absolutely.
[1:57:55] Okay.
[1:57:55] Thank you very much.
[1:57:56] I appreciate your presentation.
[1:57:58] Thank you.
[1:57:59] A couple more for us.
[1:58:01] Thank you, Mayor.
[1:58:02] Thank you for the great presentation and trying to keep our community safer because we
[1:58:07] We do know that it's definitely an issue.
[1:58:10] So I just have a couple questions.
[1:58:12] So several patients came into the office and said that they had signed the waiver and
[1:58:16] the paper, but they didn't get a sticker.
[1:58:18] And that the school district wasn't issuing stickers, and that was at Vista and at Mesa.
[1:58:24] So we can follow up with the district, but they're entirely tracking that.
[1:58:29] We're not a part of that.
[1:58:31] Minus the educational part, the police department isn't.
[1:58:34] So do we have a school resource officer at each school, so could we not utilize that a little bit more for
[1:58:43] making sure that we get
[1:58:46] community outreach to those kids and have our school resource officer engage in this conversation?
[1:58:53] Absolutely, yeah, they're right now, they're meeting them at the lockups or the
[1:58:58] parking lots for like the racks, the racks, trying to, again, it's all new, so it still kind of
[1:59:04] in motion. We just started the educational portion of it. So whether the
[1:59:09] stickers are coming, they should be. And that should be part of it. And if
[1:59:14] they haven't got it yet, or within a couple weeks, I would advise in the
[1:59:17] follow up with the school because there'll be the ones actually issuing the
[1:59:21] sticker. Okay.
[1:59:25] So how are we in, you know, so we'll pass this new ordinance, but
[1:59:32] But how are we going to up the enforcement of the ordinance for one, especially when motorized vehicles aren't allowed in our parks anyway?
[1:59:40] So now we have them in our parks, but do we have a sign saying we are working on signage actually with municipal services?
[1:59:50] But I believe parks are off limits and not allowed in parks, but we are working on signage.
[1:59:55] They're currently not allowed there either, so you know that has not changed.
[1:59:59] Yeah, we just
[2:00:00] We discussed with the MSD, the design of those signs, and we're working on getting good signs that are visible to everybody that's coming. Because kids can say they didn't know, right? I mean, how do we have these young kids as young as like 12, 11, whatever? How do they even know who has a right away? A pedestrian or, I mean, that's the problem they don't. Right, so how are we going to get that knowledge to them? We can pass every ordinance in the world, but until we, you know, that that's where we're relying on the engagement.
[2:00:29] in the education aspect of it with the schools.
[2:00:31] Like I said, with the school specifically,
[2:00:34] before they do get their stickers,
[2:00:36] they're sitting through an education course taught by our officers.
[2:00:39] Is it we've hit 450 students within the last week and a half?
[2:00:45] Okay, okay, great, thanks for that.
[2:00:49] So is there going to be part of this ordinance that says,
[2:00:52] you can't have a number of bikes together?
[2:00:54] I mean, yes, that is one of the sections.
[2:00:57] Okay, because it does seem like especially at Ralph's and that's my
[2:01:03] District and I get emails once a week about that and pictures and you know, it seems
[2:01:09] Yeah, that is one of the updated one of the new ones. Okay. Thank you for that. Is there a possibility we could do an age change
[2:01:16] But you already answered that question with San Diego doing that
[2:01:19] Yeah, and our fines are a hundred two hundred and five hundred. Yeah, those are outlined in our municipal code
[2:01:25] Okay. So, what are the percentages of a e-biker that would even get to a $200 fine?
[2:01:33] I mean, they get the first one, they'll get a warning, their parents will get known,
[2:01:36] they go to a class. And, I mean, what are the percentages of them getting further down
[2:01:41] the fine scale? I mean, do you have any statistics on that?
[2:01:45] No, not, not, not, not, not, shit.
[2:01:46] Okay. All right.
[2:01:51] And, just the fact that I do believe that we need to step up our signage
[2:01:55] And we need to give people notice that we do have this new ordinance.
[2:02:00] And I know I love myriad of PD and all the information that they do disseminate on Facebook.
[2:02:06] But I know that the youth don't think Facebook's cool.
[2:02:09] Yeah, that's why we have to rely on other things.
[2:02:11] Yeah, they're looking elsewhere.
[2:02:13] So I appreciate that our school resource offices are engaging with this as well.
[2:02:18] And just to kind of, I was trying to figure out how great are you in as a 12-year-old?
[2:02:25] you're in sixth grade. You don't really have, you know, you can barely make it to school.
[2:02:31] I think they're still pinning things on us to take back to our parents in sixth grade sometimes.
[2:02:35] So I just think that age and San Diego thing might have something going and we could,
[2:02:42] maybe that ordinance will be able to play out here too. So thank you for the time.
[2:02:47] I appreciate all you're answering all those questions. I know this is such a hot subject.
[2:02:51] You probably don't want to hear about it anymore. And you just wanted to go away and everybody
[2:02:54] ready to ride safely. So thank you for all your time and thank you, Mayor.
[2:02:59] You're welcome. Thank you. I've got to ask the question. The bike gang, the number of bikes involved.
[2:03:08] Would that also apply to the spandex, guys?
[2:03:14] That would, okay.
[2:03:15] It applies to anyone on a bike. Okay. I think that's fair.
[2:03:25] all the same. No, that's a close-course race. That's a different. The number, the parents fee
[2:03:38] schedule for these impoundings, I think, personally, the more it happens, the more aggressive I would
[2:03:46] I would press that as hard as I could because there is one time I think that you could claim I didn't know I'm sorry
[2:03:53] I just I have a hard time crossing the bridge of a parent myself buying a $10,000 e-bike or you know upwards of you know
[2:04:01] They started to and you go to fail 15 now
[2:04:05] You're not aware of what you are doing. I just cannot get there
[2:04:10] So that almost
[2:04:12] most intentional ignorance, I think, is almost not forgivable in special in the second offense.
[2:04:18] So if we could, I don't know if there's any thoughts of the fines are capped by state law.
[2:04:25] Of course.
[2:04:26] Yeah, they're in the penal code and they haven't been increased in decades.
[2:04:30] Okay, that's unfortunate.
[2:04:32] So is there any teeth?
[2:04:34] Is there any teeth we can put other than fines in for the current state?
[2:04:39] The state's working on it right now.
[2:04:43] Can they impound the bike for a longer period of time?
[2:04:46] No, I mean, is that property?
[2:04:47] So they have a due process, right?
[2:04:48] Okay.
[2:04:49] I thought we could go more, like with vehicles, certain vehicle code sections for like a suspended
[2:04:55] license.
[2:04:56] We can do 38 toes or impounds, but that's a very specific-
[2:05:00] Second, an outline in the vehicle code. Yeah. You know, this gets talked about a lot, deterrence, right?
[2:05:10] I'll butcher this a little bit. But in the, when the riots happened in LA, they, I forget who enacted it, but in order to help deter the gang activity on the beach, they hired a bunch of really, really large police officers that were fit and looked scary to ride around quads.
[2:05:29] all day and deter the gang, gangsters away. And it works. Have we thought about any type
[2:05:36] of deterrents where, you know, if I know one of our guys used the ride monocross professionally,
[2:05:43] I mean, it would take some, some arrogance to try and outrun him if he had the right equipment.
[2:05:49] Not that I want to see any chase scenes on Channel 5, just knowing that he's, like if Travis was on
[2:05:56] I don't, I probably bet on him.
[2:06:01] Yeah, there's a lot of other aspects that go into that with doing it as a police officer,
[2:06:05] whether it's the training, the certification course, how many officers do we have that,
[2:06:10] that are capable of doing that and doing it in a way that is safe.
[2:06:16] That's one thing to get on a mountain bike and roll through Calo's park.
[2:06:19] It's a different thing for me to go to my group of officers and say,
[2:06:23] who wants to go 60 miles an hour through our trails on an e-bike, on a sur on our e-mode or so.
[2:06:29] Yeah.
[2:06:30] The, the, we don't pursue speed, it's like vehicles, like how does, how does that work?
[2:06:38] I mean, the officers who pursue criminals in a car, they have special training or they,
[2:06:46] they get clearance for pursuits or how that...
[2:06:49] Yeah, I mean, you're cleared to basically drive in a pursuit through the academy.
[2:06:54] Once you hit the academy, then we have a biennial training for our emergency vehicle operations.
[2:07:00] You know, any more biennial, but yeah, ongoing training, which certifies you,
[2:07:04] you know, and covers you legally for being able to do a pursuit.
[2:07:08] And not to touch a sore topic, but, you know, in the safety being paramount in this
[2:07:18] discussion. The way you keep everyone safe is monitoring and if, you know, maybe our
[2:07:25] flat cameras can pick up some of these kids and understand where they're going. I mean,
[2:07:29] that keeps them, the kids running, they're going to crash and get hurt or die. The police
[2:07:35] officers chasing them is going to want to make crash, get hurt significantly. We don't want
[2:07:52] And then the option, I'm sorry, the impound, what happens if they get impounded enough that there's a $10,000 sur on sitting in there, do they auction it off and what happens right now?
[2:08:03] Right now, we haven't, we haven't got to that point yet, but we do, when property, just like a vehicle, sometimes people just figure it's not worth getting their car out.
[2:08:13] You can have it, and yeah, the tow yards, and we have a ways of auctioning.
[2:08:18] Do we get proceeds from those types of situations?
[2:08:22] I'd have to double check with the top three.
[2:08:24] Can we get our cost reimbursement, don't they make money?
[2:08:28] It'd be nice to have, let me just scrape off the e-bike and put that towards a program,
[2:08:34] education, something, helmets for kids who need help buying helmets, whatever.
[2:08:39] I would like to turn that around.
[2:08:41] Under the California Constitution, you can only charge fees for the amount of the service that you're providing.
[2:08:48] You can't, it'd be a tax to impose a fee that's collected for a different purpose.
[2:08:54] Well, no, I'm saying when the bike is sitting in the impound line and no one picks it up because the fees are too much.
[2:08:58] If it's never returned, who watches it, who gets the proceeds, and I say if it's hours, and we impound the bike.
[2:09:05] Those proceeds should go to our program for e-bike safety or education.
[2:09:08] Yeah, it's fair. I know some cities are even doing a I've seen the gun buybacks. They're actually going e by the e by bybacks towards parents have just kind of been like we didn't know.
[2:09:20] And we would like to get rid of this. Wow. Yeah, that's kind of the next thing that I've seen the last two weeks. I was trying to think of another product that even was close to this type of like where you have something at the home that.
[2:09:32] But is it supposed to be dangerous, but someone taking it, using for the wrong thing, ends up
[2:09:38] becoming very dangerous?
[2:09:41] Guns were right there, right?
[2:09:42] I mean, they're great tools, and part of our second amendment right to have, and we should
[2:09:48] be trained on them and use them appropriately.
[2:09:50] Bikes are no different.
[2:09:51] I mean, especially the heavy ones that weigh 150 pounds.
[2:09:53] I mean, you could literally, people are literally dying because of the misuse of them.
[2:10:00] More questions? I'll open up a public hearing now. Oh, everyone, Ms. Stone. Thank you. Madam City Attorney, can we put an age limit on e-bikes, since they are considered bicycles? And so my concern, which I have witnessed and this was discussed yesterday, is 10-year-olds. 10-year-olds to me.
[2:10:29] I cannot imagine my 10-year-old at the time operating a motorized vehicle.
[2:10:35] Are we allowed to identify an age of 13 and over to use an e-bike?
[2:10:47] Or because they're considered a bicycle that any age can utilize an e-bike?
[2:10:52] Right now we're not allowed to.
[2:10:54] There's just that pilot program in San Diego but hopefully soon they'll expand that.
[2:10:58] Okay. Great. I also loved seeing in the ordinance the use of cell phones because I have witnessed
[2:11:08] cell phones with these kids riding the e-bikes. And as we know, just driving a vehicle, the law
[2:11:18] is prohibiting us even at a stop sign. Matter of fact, I think I saw a little video on our
[2:11:25] or Mary at a PD that somebody was sitting at a stop signal and using their phone and they got ticketed.
[2:11:32] So I'm really, really glad to see the cell phone ordinance.
[2:11:38] That's not your ear buds or your headphones or your ear buds.
[2:11:44] So going back to my question, why do we have to wait for San Diego?
[2:11:49] Why can we not implement our own ordinance for an age?
[2:11:53] The state law right now allows anyone to ride the cost one and cost two.
[2:12:00] Okay.
[2:12:01] Is it possible, colleagues, that we draft a letter encouraging Senator Kelly-Ciarto and Assemblywoman Kate Sanchez to address this at the state level?
[2:12:17] Can we do that?
[2:12:19] Sure.
[2:12:19] Mayor, what are your thoughts?
[2:12:24] If these are supposed to just be bicycles, and the class one and class two, class ones, whatever the first tier is, is just a pedal-assist thing.
[2:12:37] Do statics, the bicycles without pedals, but the kids run on the side of them, some of them have throttles.
[2:12:45] What are those? Do we know?
[2:12:47] It's a state, yeah, they're very tiny, so I balanced by it, yeah.
[2:12:53] So those are electric motors, they should not, I mean, like, I've seen,
[2:12:58] I've never seen electric motors.
[2:12:59] No, I've seen, no, no, it's crazy.
[2:13:01] I've seen like 12 month olds ride these things.
[2:13:03] But yeah, but not with the motor.
[2:13:05] Yes, yes.
[2:13:06] I've never seen that.
[2:13:07] They're interesting.
[2:13:08] They're so popular.
[2:13:10] But I would not want to limit that by this, and so let me just, if you don't mind,
[2:13:14] Let me show you and let's talk about this next time for the legislation piece because I think that would step on the toes of something I think is amazing just by nature of the definition of what these things are right.
[2:13:24] Another question, could we, could we implement a policy that if you are 12 years and younger, the ordinance says that you have to ride on the sidewalk and not in the street, can we implement that?
[2:13:41] I mean, we might be able to do that.
[2:13:45] Do we have sidewalk everywhere, though,
[2:13:47] that people would want to be?
[2:13:48] Well, again, they would have to ride where there's this.
[2:13:51] Again, we're talking about 10-year-olds in the younger.
[2:13:54] And the fact that a parent is giving a 10-year-old,
[2:13:58] a motorized vehicle, is beyond my comprehension,
[2:14:02] and I'm just trying to protect that age group.
[2:14:06] Yeah, yeah.
[2:14:07] Again, I'll leave it there city attorney
[2:14:09] about the legality of it.
[2:14:12] on the sidewalks are I mean it's one of those you balance tested of we want to put them in the roadway or do you want to put them on the sidewalk with pedestrians are one fatality was a pedestrian struck on a sidewalk and we've had several others with some pretty serious.
[2:14:27] Okay so that's kind of one of those.
[2:14:30] You know, Laurie, before all this a couple of years ago, as you guys know, my daughter got hit by a car.
[2:14:36] Yes.
[2:14:36] I always told her before this was even approved right on the sidewalk because it was a risk equation that I balanced out.
[2:14:45] She still got hit by a car.
[2:14:47] So I think it has mitigated things, but I think just the nature of what you're dealing with here,
[2:14:52] you're still going to see some bad stuff happen by evidence of what's already happened.
[2:14:56] So, Mayor, again, I just want to encourage you in our call.
[2:15:00] Colleagues, to draft a letter to encourage our state representatives to deal with at least 12 and younger with this issue. And that concludes my questions. And again, thank you for yesterday, sir. All right. Thank you. Now open public hearing. Hello, Madam City clerk, I know we have a public comment.
[2:15:29] Thank you, Mr. Mayor, Cousin Klein.
[2:15:31] I'll
[2:15:43] try and keep this for another three minutes.
[2:15:45] You'll note that on June 3rd, I set you all an email including Chief Henry and Captain Parker and Captain Durant.
[2:15:55] Also, and then I followed that up on June 22nd with a very comprehensive memo with that being said,
[2:16:04] I want to thank Chief Henry, Captain Parker, Lieutenant Elliott, and officer Jones.
[2:16:10] I've had several conversations and text conversations and meetings with them regarding policy and incidents.
[2:16:21] So I very much appreciate that.
[2:16:24] A couple of things on the presentation, also, and kind of to your point, Mayor Label.
[2:16:28] Thank you for including bicycles in this, because long before the e-bike proliferation,
[2:16:34] we've had problems with bicycles, especially the two abreast, more than two abreast.
[2:16:42] Curious of the 1369 calls, how many were unable to locate?
[2:16:47] One of the things that I had put in my memo, and this is difficult for me, while I don't have
[2:16:56] much difficulty disagreeing with the five of you, I do find it difficult to disagree
[2:17:03] with our chief on this, and I certainly understand there's no disrespect meant, and I understand
[2:17:10] that.
[2:17:13] But it seems to me with the parks being noted on the calls, it seems, and this is
[2:17:21] in my memo, integrating ground-based mobility assets along with our overhead assets, creates
[2:17:28] an immediate visual deterrent designed to secure voluntary compliance. I mean, we do
[2:17:33] do it with black and white and patrol when somebody sees a black and white, what do they do?
[2:17:38] They slow down or they behave.
[2:17:41] Perhaps not now, perhaps we use this and if it continues to become a problem, maybe
[2:17:46] that's something that we look into and we try to balance the chief's concern for liability
[2:17:52] with compliance.
[2:17:58] That's that, you know, I'm wondering if, you know, when I was a kid and that's when BMX
[2:18:04] started really started in the early 70s.
[2:18:08] The city of Fullerton issued a tag.
[2:18:12] So I'm wondering if the school district is not being
[2:18:17] as urgent with it, maybe it's a two prong approach.
[2:18:20] And I don't know how we would do that.
[2:18:21] It might be cumbersome for the city.
[2:18:23] Maybe once a child is cited by the PD,
[2:18:26] they're issued a tag on the bike.
[2:18:28] And if it's recurring, we're not just going by the name,
[2:18:30] we're going by the tag.
[2:18:34] On the ordinance, E6, where it says the city may recover its actual administrative costs related to removal, seizure, storage regulated mobility device,
[2:18:47] seized pursuant to the section provided costs are listed on the city's website, do not exceed the actual cost.
[2:18:53] Can we ensure that the website is up to date and what tab will that be on?
[2:19:00] Is there a question?
[2:19:01] No.
[2:19:02] Is there a 20 more seconds?
[2:19:04] I'm sorry.
[2:19:05] You want 20 more seconds?
[2:19:06] Can you be concise?
[2:19:07] As long as you want to ask me questions, I'll take as much time as you want to give them.
[2:19:11] You have 20 seconds, Mr. Klein.
[2:19:13] There's a lot to go through here.
[2:19:18] Again, there's no disrespect meant here, but if anything warranted a workshop, it's certainly
[2:19:27] this.
[2:19:27] both for back and forth, as well as education to the public, which I think all five of you have talked about.
[2:19:36] So, again, thank you to the chief and his staff, and thank you for speaking into the microphone, appreciate it.
[2:19:45] Thank you, Mr. Klein.
[2:19:46] On
[2:19:49] that, I guess, operationally on the discussion workshop, could that take place?
[2:20:00] Is there a place in the middle of an ordinance creation? I mean, not to deter anything that's in here, but maybe to opine on or augment from input from the community, I guess, would be. How complex would that get? It's the council's pleasure, whether you want to advance the ordinance, whether you want to pause and have a workshop. I think our decision to place it on the agenda was twofold. One, we already had direction from council on what you were looking for.
[2:20:28] Our workshops are often used to get that kind of input.
[2:20:33] Secondly, we think there's going to be a long process of community education.
[2:20:39] Certainly, a public hearing is only one way to engage as Mr. Klein indicated he had also sent an email that you had every opportunity to review that was more exhaustive in terms of the points you would like to raise.
[2:20:50] But if you would like to have a workshop to have back and forth with residents, you can do that.
[2:20:55] We don't have a lot of public comment on this item, I'm very little by most measures.
[2:21:00] It's really the pleasure of Council on how to advance this item.
[2:21:04] I'm not sure I want to workshop, I do think this will be in a very evolving, I was just curious.
[2:21:11] If you make an ordinance now, how easy is it to change?
[2:21:15] Okay, now we didn't have a bad boy's theme, we didn't do it with a chase program, could you just add that in easily?
[2:21:24] without unpacking a lot of that.
[2:21:27] I mean, you can always,
[2:21:29] so in order to see the first reading,
[2:21:30] and then the second reading,
[2:21:31] if you make changes that second reading,
[2:21:33] you have to reintroduce it,
[2:21:34] so then you'd need another reading.
[2:21:36] But at any meeting,
[2:21:37] you guys can request or change to any part of the code,
[2:21:40] and we can work on that.
[2:21:42] I think just for,
[2:21:44] I want to get this thing moving,
[2:21:46] and as these thoughts evolve,
[2:21:48] and as some things are working on buying the scenes evolve,
[2:21:50] we can augment or take away,
[2:21:52] or whatever we need to do with those thoughts.
[2:21:54] Yeah, I'd say our methods that we utilize, whether it is, you know, as mentioned, either by error, by land, or however we do it, I don't think that really affects the enforcement aspect of it.
[2:22:07] That's just how we're going to get to point eight, a point being an effect.
[2:22:11] I guess to that point, the ordinance doesn't dictate how you respond.
[2:22:15] No.
[2:22:16] Yeah.
[2:22:17] Okay.
[2:22:17] I see that.
[2:22:20] Yeah.
[2:22:20] I know.
[2:22:21] We'll close the public hearing now.
[2:22:23] Um.
[2:22:24] Click.
[2:22:27] Oh, it's a discussion.
[2:22:28] You're right.
[2:22:28] Yeah.
[2:22:29] Close public comments.
[2:22:30] We have no more.
[2:22:31] Correct.
[2:22:31] No online participants.
[2:22:33] Correct.
[2:22:33] Okay.
[2:22:34] Thank you.
[2:22:35] Back to council for comments.
[2:22:37] Looks like we have Ms. Warren up.
[2:22:38] Thank you.
[2:22:39] The one thing that wasn't discussed is damage to city property.
[2:22:43] So we're holding the person or parents, guardians, or parents responsible for any damage done to our parks and city property.
[2:22:56] That's twofold.
[2:22:57] That's one is criminally vandalism, 594 of the penal code covers causing damage to property.
[2:23:05] That would be one aspect of it.
[2:23:07] and then, I guess, whatever the city's mechanism for cost recovery of, you know,
[2:23:12] say you're driving a car and you run over city property.
[2:23:15] Right. Okay.
[2:23:15] There's some sort of cost because.
[2:23:16] Okay, I just want to make sure that that was addressed because there's a state law that has addressed that.
[2:23:20] Okay. Thank you very much.
[2:23:21] I have no more comments.
[2:23:23] Councilwoman Stone.
[2:23:24] Thank you, Mayor.
[2:23:26] I want to talk about the town hall meeting that I hosted and the comments from the kids.
[2:23:33] You know, we've been talking about a pump track here in Marietta and while that is definitely
[2:23:41] a priority for our youth, a pump track is not what the e-bikes are looking for.
[2:23:48] They're looking for a large amount of land that they can ride on.
[2:23:55] And so this is something that the Mayor and I had discussed yesterday along with our city
[2:24:01] the manager and we may have a couple of solutions in which maybe we could at the end do a future
[2:24:10] agendized conversation mayor on that.
[2:24:15] Also, Councilmember Warren, you brought
[2:24:20] up something that was very interesting that we talked about yesterday. And while we're
[2:24:27] We're trying to put a policy together to implement safety within our community.
[2:24:36] And we had frank conversations with the youth yesterday.
[2:24:41] But one thing that they have to understand, and also our community understands, is we
[2:24:48] have to share the road with the e-bikes.
[2:24:51] This is here, who knows with technology what's going to be next with these e-bikes, but I believe that the-
[2:25:00] There also has to be an education for our drivers and understand that we have to share the road. We talked about clothing and wearing black shirts, black shorts, black pants, and then you're riding a black e-bike. And it's important that our youth understand that they have to be safe, but they also have to be constant.
[2:25:29] of the drivers, they are distracted by using their cell phone,
[2:25:37] they're distracted by eating in their vehicle,
[2:25:40] they're distracted by the dog in the backseat,
[2:25:43] and our youth are unaware of the road,
[2:25:49] hazards, and sharing also with vehicles.
[2:25:53] So there has to be some sort of marketing outreach
[2:25:57] that is also part of the solution of our drivers being aware of not just our youth but again adults are using our e-bikes as well.
[2:26:12] So that was really, really important to have that authentic conversation with the kids is that they really have to be constant of their surroundings.
[2:26:23] The chief gave a very important example is when a vehicle is entering a stop sign and they want to make a right,
[2:26:32] they're looking at the left side for oncoming traffic.
[2:26:37] And I've caught myself accelerating and not really looking to the right and then you see an e-bike approaching the intersection.
[2:26:47] So this is really a community outreach and a community education about sharing the road.
[2:27:00] I want you to know that kids are going to be kids.
[2:27:06] And I agree that, you know, they're not behind a computer.
[2:27:11] They're out enjoying our community.
[2:27:14] We don't have a place for them, which I believe should be a tier one priority.
[2:27:21] We've heard their words, and I think that while we have a balance of implementing infrastructure,
[2:27:30] a balance to our police department, our fire department, our library, our senior center,
[2:27:37] that we have to have amenities available, not just for seniors, not for families,
[2:27:44] But also for our youth, I think that's really, really important.
[2:27:48] So, those were just a couple of comments that I wanted to share with the colleagues of what came about from yesterday's town hall meeting.
[2:27:57] And again, I appreciated so much their honesty.
[2:28:01] There was some tough questions that were asked, and they were honest about them not behaving appropriately.
[2:28:10] They admitted it, but also there has to be some accountability for the adults that are driving vehicles, and also the intimidation.
[2:28:23] We talked about the intimidation from the groups of e-bikes.
[2:28:28] It is intimidating, they know it's intimidating, and we brought it to their attention about being a little bit more respectful.
[2:28:35] But also, the adults have to be a little bit more respectful as well.
[2:28:39] This is a community effort.
[2:28:42] I want to thank you so much, Chief, for attending yesterday and for this presentation today.
[2:28:49] And while a workshop will not be appropriate because we're going to hopefully be implementing this policy here today.
[2:28:59] And of course, we could bring it back for changes in the future.
[2:29:02] But City Manager, I'm going to impress a major, major outreach on every single level through all types.
[2:29:11] types of social media on our website, obviously our police department, our city magazine and every opportunity that we have, we should be talking about this conversation because it is one of the most important conversations that we need to have with our entire city, all of our residents and those that visit the city of Marietta, so thank you Madam Mayor.
[2:29:37] Thank you, Mr. Mayor.
[2:29:39] You're welcome.
[2:29:40] Just real quick, Mayor Fudelman.
[2:29:42] One thing I do want to point out is just like a lot of problems, a small minority group
[2:29:48] is causing a lot of this.
[2:29:52] The majority of our kids, I believe, are probably riding pretty responsibly as if they had a bicycle.
[2:29:58] So I
[2:30:00] I don't want this to come across as every kid on an e-bike is a problem, they're not. We know there's some good kids, some good riders that are, and adults still, it is, but most of the problems that we're getting are the kids. So I don't want it to be that just everybody riding an e-bike is a problem, they're not. It is a select group, and when they get into the group, I think many of them are fine if they are riding the school by themselves or riding to the park by themselves, but when they attach four or five more riders with them,
[2:30:29] It's just a different mentality that we're not used to seeing and we're having to deal with it.
[2:30:34] Yeah, before you go, Ron, you spoke on the clothing.
[2:30:39] I may have misheard you, but I just wanted to say, do not wear black clothing in black yet.
[2:30:45] Well, no, you had mentioned it tonight.
[2:30:47] No, it was talked about yesterday at the town hall meeting.
[2:30:49] No, I know.
[2:30:50] But you mentioned that it was talked about and that the black clothing came up.
[2:30:54] But I didn't hear you say, don't wear black clothing.
[2:30:57] If it was me, I'd wear mirrors or glitter all over the place.
[2:31:00] So I would want to be seen by everything out there, lights, all the stuff.
[2:31:05] So that's it.
[2:31:08] I didn't say it.
[2:31:08] Yeah, Mr. Holliday, you're up.
[2:31:11] Thank you, Mr. Mayor.
[2:31:13] Yeah, I applaud Councilwoman Stone for her initiative going to the group of kids that she did and inviting them down here to talk with the chief and the mayor.
[2:31:24] I was impressed how many showed up.
[2:31:29] I don't know when I was that age if I would have showed up at all.
[2:31:32] It's like, yeah, that's a waste of my time.
[2:31:35] So I was impressed that you got them here.
[2:31:36] I was impressed that you got the interaction that we needed.
[2:31:39] That was good.
[2:31:40] And I absolutely agree with my colleague that we have to spread this information out
[2:31:47] in every possible way.
[2:31:50] If the school could send something home with every kid,
[2:31:53] that would be awesome if we could connect with them
[2:31:56] and send something home that would be a great way
[2:31:58] to get it to the parents.
[2:32:00] Not that it always makes it home, but it's a good start.
[2:32:02] We started that last year through their information officer
[2:32:05] and females, I think they reach 50,000 people
[2:32:08] or something they're saying, but they're females.
[2:32:11] So every avenue we can, and I would say as far as the workshop
[2:32:14] goes or a community forum of some sort
[2:32:19] in each district or something, I would say let's see,
[2:32:22] Let's see how we, how it goes, let's see how your outreach goes, let's see if we see a decline in incidents as we see if we have any compliance whatsoever.
[2:32:33] And then as Mr. Klein spoke, you know maybe we look at advocating for more resources targeted enforcement if we still have a problem.
[2:32:45] But the number one thing I want to point out is you're never ever going to replace good
[2:32:51] parenting.
[2:32:52] And if good parenting is being done at home, you're not going to have as big a problem.
[2:32:58] And so the parents that choose to get the bike out of M pound and give it right back to the
[2:33:04] kid to do the same violation in my opinion, that's bad parenting.
[2:33:09] That's not teaching and responsibility or accountability and unfortunately their kids could pay for it
[2:33:13] their life.
[2:33:16] So I am happy to move forward with this ordinance as it is and let it evolve
[2:33:21] and see if there needs to be tweaks or public outreach or community form more than what
[2:33:25] are we going to do. Thank you. Thank you. You had a slide up there with the ER visits and
[2:33:35] I don't know if anybody else caught this but you know what else resembled that type of trend?
[2:33:40] Pickleball.
[2:33:41] Really?
[2:33:43] I will tell you firsthand, it's very true.
[2:33:47] Yeah, it's all applicable.
[2:33:48] It's totally kidding, totally kidding.
[2:33:50] You mentioned the prevalence of this happening
[2:33:52] and the small minority being a big problem.
[2:33:56] And I think you used this word a lot,
[2:33:57] a force multiplier.
[2:33:58] An e-bike is a force multiplier of use of a bicycle, right?
[2:34:02] It's just going to make these things happen more.
[2:34:04] These same kids would be the same ones kicking over trash cans,
[2:34:07] spray paint and dumpsters, whatever, on pedal bicycles, when you were kids, and we were kids,
[2:34:13] and if bikes were out, when you were a kid, they would have been when you were a kid.
[2:34:17] And then, yeah, I mean, it's just the tool and asset that's happening right now
[2:34:25] that's unique. It's interesting to watch happen because it's just letting it happen way more.
[2:34:30] And we have to come up with things like this and talk about things like we are tonight to help
[2:34:34] get in front of it. But I'm with Mr. Holiday. I completely support this. I think, you know, as we evolve and bikes evolve and the problem evolves, if it's a problem, we'll address it then.
[2:34:43] Mr. Mayor, I like to make a motion to accept the policy as is.
[2:34:47] Okay, and I have a second minus 1.
[2:34:50] Let's vote.
[2:35:00] Motion carries unanimously, 5-0. With the introduction of ordinance, number 637-26, amending
[2:35:09] Maria de Municipal Code, chapter 10.55, bicycles, e-bites, and e-scooters to update regulations
[2:35:14] governing the operation, speed, and use of bicycles, electric bicycles, and e-commands.
[2:35:20] Thank you, Madam Clerk. You want to take the reconsideration and the request to add for future
[2:35:27] Mr. Mayor, any council member who voted on the prevailing side of the original motion
[2:35:31] may move a reconsideration to consider new information or correct an adverain errors
[2:35:35] on a non-public hearing item at the same time or at the same meeting or the next meeting.
[2:35:40] At this time, are there any requests from council for reconsiderations?
[2:35:43] Seeing none, now is the time for council member requests to add or withdraw items to future
[2:35:48] agenda items.
[2:35:50] To future agenda, there will be no discussion on the request, a brief explanation of the
[2:35:54] The request may be given, the merit of the items being requested may not be discussed or debated.
[2:35:58] Are there any city council requests?
[2:36:01] Yep.
[2:36:03] Seeing none?
[2:36:03] Yes.
[2:36:04] I'm in the queue.
[2:36:05] Oh.
[2:36:05] Yes.
[2:36:07] Mr. Mayor, I'd like to agenda a future discussion on land dedicated to e-bikes.
[2:36:19] Yeah.
[2:36:20] I mean, I'll support that.
[2:36:21] I mean, we should have some options if we have any.
[2:36:23] We'll talk about them.
[2:36:25] Could we include other items?
[2:36:27] I mean, for use, other than the just ebikes, you just want to discuss ebikes.
[2:36:34] It's what did you want to add to the legislation?
[2:36:36] Well, I mean, there is not just, you just want to talk about ebikes in itself, just a place where ebikes to write is that we're just having.
[2:36:44] We could say land use.
[2:36:45] Yes, land use, okay, all right, thank you.
[2:36:48] You good?
[2:36:49] Right.
[2:36:50] Thumbs up.
[2:36:50] We're good.
[2:36:52] Anyone else?
[2:36:56] Seeing none.
[2:36:57] Okay.
[2:36:57] Any public comments?
[2:36:58] Nonogenized for closed session.
[2:37:00] Seeing none, Mr. Mayor.
[2:37:01] Thank you.
[2:37:02] Madam City Clerk, would you please announce our closed session?
[2:37:06] Items.
[2:37:07] City Council will conduct closed session pursuant to government code section 54957.6.
[2:37:12] With the City Manager, Assistant City Manager, Deputy City Manager, City Attorney, and the City's
[2:37:16] negotiators regarding labor negotiations with the Myrietta Supervisors Association and
[2:37:21] the unrepresented management professional and confidential employees.
[2:37:25] City Council will conduct closed session pursuant to government code section 54956.92.
[2:37:30] There are significant exposure to litigation in two cases.
[2:37:33] And lastly, City Council will conduct closed session with city manager, assistant city manager,
[2:37:37] deputy city manager, administrative services director, and city attorney pursuant to government
[2:37:42] amendment code section 54956.95b to consider the following case of Marcella,
[2:37:48] Carina Wheatley versus City of Marietta, case number CVME2505271 Riverside County Superior Court.
[2:37:57] Thank you. We now are recessing to closed session. We will be back.
[2:39:38] And we're back. Madam City Attorney, can you please go over the closed session items?
[2:39:43] We would order.
[2:39:44] Thank you, Mayor. The City Council met in closed session on four items.
[2:39:47] The first was to confer with the labor negotiators, pursuant to government code section 5, 4, 9, 5, 7, 0.6.
[2:39:55] The council was updated and provided direction, there's no reportable action.
[2:39:59] The count.
[2:40:00] Council then met regarding two matters of anticipated litigation, pursuant to government code section 5, 4, 9, 5, 6, .9, D2 on both items. The council was updated. As questions provided direction, no reportable action. The final item was regarding existing litigation in the matter of Marcella Wheatley versus City, Murietta. The council was updated and provided direction, no reportable action. Thank you. Thank you very much.
[2:40:29] And Madam City Attorney, all members were present at closed session.
[2:40:33] Thank you.
[2:40:35] Before we adjourn tonight's meeting, I'd like to close out in a moment of silence for
[2:40:39] all the victims of the Nepal and China area flooding.
[2:40:42] So if you please join me.
[2:40:57] Okay, with that, everyone have a good night.
[2:41:00] people here.