[0:08] Good morning, everyone. Welcome. To public works meeting twelve. 2024. [0:20] Our last meeting. Before the new year. So lots to [0:25] get through today. I'll call the meeting to order. And [0:29] I'll go over to councilor armor for the land. Acknowledgement [0:32] statement, please. Thank you, Chair Lorenz in the spirit of [0:36] reconciliation, we wish to acknowledge the enduring relationship between indigenous [0:41] people and the territories they traditionally occupy. We recognize and [0:44] deeply appreciate the historic connection they have to this place, [0:48] both the land and the water. We are grateful for [0:50] the opportunity to meet here. And we thank all the [0:53] generations of indigenous. People who have taken care of this [0:55] place and continue to care for it, and we want [0:58] to show a respect. Hundreds of years after the first [1:01] treaties were assigned. They remain relevant today. May they guide [1:05] your decisions. And actions we commit to learn to educate [1:08] the honor sacred places and take actions towards real truth. [1:11] And reconciliation, mitwitch. Thank you. There is no supplementary agenda. [1:18] Committee members. Are there any pecuniary interest today? Okay. Seeing [1:24] none. Thank you. We do not have any ceremonial or [1:27] invited presentations or oral presentations. So that brings us to [1:33] transportation. Mr. Misco going to give us a safety improvement [1:37] on Muskoka road update. Thank you. Madam chair. This is [1:41] one of three verbal updates for committee today. The first [1:44] one is regarding. Some planned safety improvements on Muskoka Road [1:48] 118 within Bracebridge through an area known as the flats. [1:53] We've initiated a comms plan. Committee may have read the [1:56] email that was sent out. Yesterday with respect to what [1:58] our intent is in this area. And essentially aligning safety [2:02] and traffic improvements to improve traffic patterns and flow, reduce [2:06] conflict through this area. We're restricting left turns to avoid [2:10] this. There's a lot of conflicting turning. Movements coming out [2:13] of numerous entrances through this area. That will include physical [2:17] barriers and signage, including wayfinding signage for businesses to allow. [2:22] Customers to navigate their way through the new routes. I'd [2:25] like to just qualify that the measures that we're putting [2:27] in are intentional. To reduce speeds and severity of collisions [2:30] associated with them. So it will slow traffic down through [2:35] the area and reduce some of the turning conflicts that [2:38] we've observed based on the analysis completed the communications plan [2:42] for this includes the email that was sent out to [2:45] committee and Bracebridge councilors yesterday. We're currently going door to [2:50] door for businesses in the area with a handout and [2:53] information package to let them know what the plans are [2:55] and provide contact information in the event that they have [2:57] questions. We'll also be doing a social media blitz later [3:01] this week on the updates as well. As a website [3:04] that we can direct traffic to with faqs and an [3:07] outline of what the intention is in the area. Once [3:11] these temporary measures are in place, we'll start analyzing traffic [3:15] patterns in the area and look at longer term solutions [3:17] on how we can manage traffic through this area in [3:19] a more efficient safe manner. Thank you, Mr. Ms. Go, [3:24] are there any questions about that? Okay seeing none. [3:35] Thanks and welcome. Improvements there. Yeah, you can keep on [3:39] going. Thank you, madam Chair. The second update is regarding [3:43] the area municipality roads maintenance service agreements. Committee may recall. [3:49] I think it was in May. We brought a report [3:50] forward with respect to the status of some of the [3:52] agreements we had in place. We've had some discussions with [3:56] the area municipalities since then, and we're working on. What [4:00] their maintenance needs are and challenges are for summer of [4:03] 2025. Just a quick update with respect. To things that [4:07] we're looking at or have either finalized with some of [4:10] the areas Georgian Bay. We've taken over the summer maintenance [4:14] of Muskoka Road twelve committee may be aware. Of that. [4:16] So that's back within the district portfolio for summer maintenance. [4:22] And that's being done through our MRMC contract with Fowler. [4:25] So that's Muscoca. Roads maintenance contract. We've also related to [4:30] the Muscopa 118 improvements. We're also actively talking with the [4:34] town of Bracebridge on maintenance for winter through this stretch [4:37] of 118, so that may become another candidate. To roll [4:42] back into our roads maintenance contract. Under. District jurisdiction. And [4:49] then the last thing I'd like to mention along these [4:50] lines is we're completing a level of service review based [4:52] on. Our recent traffic counts and determining kind of what, [4:57] I guess confirming what our classification of roads are. And [5:01] the associated levels of summer and winter maintenance that go [5:03] with that. Happy to answer any questions on that one. [5:08] Okay, committee, any questions? Okay. And last, certainly not least, [5:16] thank you, madam Chair. The final one is just a [5:20] quick update on the bay and beyond project in Gravenhurst. [5:22] In the warfare proceeding eastwards to Gull Lake. It's shut [5:26] down for the winter. Obviously. We got out about two, [5:31] 3 hours before that snow hit was the final demobilization, [5:35] so. Just in time to open it up for traffic [5:39] and start controlling snow through that area. We are. Releasing [5:43] information on this on our website. Through our standard channels [5:46] just. On the kind of an update on where we're [5:49] at with respect to project progress. Like a report. We're [5:53] just shy of 50% for stages one and two, so [5:57] that's. This entire contract. So a little bit of catch [5:59] up to do next year, but nothing to be alarmed [6:01] about. And then we're going to be preparing a spring [6:04] 2025 startup. With a comms plan in advance to let [6:07] the community know when we plan to go in. And [6:10] what the new detour routes are for the next stage [6:12] of construction. Thanks. Thank you, committee. Any questions on that? [6:19] I have a comment. Thank God that road was open [6:22] for that. I live just up the street from there, [6:27] and I honestly thought about that while I was on [6:29] my daily walk was. Small mercy. Okay. We're going to [6:36] move right along to budgets and financial planning. The big [6:39] show. So it is moved by councilor Rhodes. Second by [6:45] chair Lehman that the rules of procedure relating to motions [6:48] and debate be suspended for the duration of the budget [6:51] discussions and that they be reinstated at the conclusion of [6:54] said discussions. Committee. All in favor? Not carry. Thank you. [7:07] Thank you, Madam Chair. And good morning, members of committee [7:10] and any members of the public who may be tuning [7:12] into the first of four budget presentations that will be [7:16] delivered to each standing committee this week. To be followed [7:25] by a summarizing summary. And presentation. Of the budget at [7:31] the committee of the whole meeting scheduled for January 10. [7:35] 2025. Just to walk us through how the presentation will [7:39] work today, I'll be giving a quick summary of the [7:42] overall 2025 2026 budget, followed by a summary of all [7:47] of the service. Level changes that have been included in [7:50] the draft budget and proposed by staff, then I will [7:54] pass it over to commiss. Commissioner Steele, as well as [7:58] directors Misco and Curry to walk us through the remainder [8:01] of the epw. Budget. So the first four slides in [8:07] each standing committee presentation this week will provide committee committees [8:12] with a high level overview of the 2025 2026. Tax [8:19] supported budget and proposed service level changes. The first slide [8:23] is a corporate level representation of the tax supported budget [8:27] and the impact on a Muscoca residential taxpayer. For each [8:31] $100,000 in assessed value. Overall, the tax supported budget reflects [8:38] an estimated tax rate increase of 5.11%, or $16.52 per [8:46] 100,000 in assessed property value in 2025. And those numbers [8:51] are 4.36%, or $14.84. In 2026. The increase can be [8:58] broken down into the following categories. Inflationary pressure on base [9:03] services, the affordable and attainable housing investment framework. Increased contributions [9:10] to reserves, which support our investments in infrastructure and asset [9:14] management planning. The local share and hospital capital contributions. And [9:20] finally, Non housing related proposed service level changes. This slide [9:26] is demonstrating that the 2025 2026 budget emphasizes. A significant [9:31] investment. In affordable and attainable housing while maintaining current services [9:36] and continuing to invest in infrastructure while meeting council's budget [9:41] guideline increases of 5.1% and 4.5%. This slide breaks down [9:49] the year over year increase by department. As represented in [9:55] this slide, the overall net levy increase is 6.72%. That's [10:00] the third line from the bottom. In 2025 and 5.97% [10:06] in 2026. When growth and assessment is included, the year [10:12] over year. Estimated tax increase is 5.11% in 2025 and [10:17] 4.36% in 2026. As represented in the previous slide, the [10:23] draft budget. Includes increases to all capital reserves at or [10:26] above the guidelines presented. In the district's asset management plan. [10:32] This slide summarizes the strategic plan priorities that are addressed [10:37] by the proposed service level changes included within the draft [10:40] budget. Finally. This is the final slide in the [10:50] summarizing slides at the front end of each presentation. And [10:56] it summarizes the proposed service level changes for both years. [11:01] First and foremost, staff have included an investment of over [11:04] $1 million in both 2025 and 2026 to advance the [11:09] affordable and attainable housing investment framework. Otherwise known as the [11:13] big move on housing under priority area our communities and [11:17] the objectives of housing. For everyone and community health and [11:21] well being. Although council directed staff to include a service [11:26] level change of 1.6 million to advance this plan over [11:29] five years. It is important to remember that the framework [11:32] was presented after the budget guideline had been approved. In [11:36] order to meet the guideline, staff have presented a budget [11:39] that considers the original eight year implementation plan. Also under [11:44] this pillar is a service level change for administrative support [11:47] for the newly launched Muscoca. Demand responsive transportation pilot program. [11:53] The FTE impact for these initiatives is 1.83 in 2025 [11:58] and 1.9 in 2026. Under the pillar of our team, [12:04] as well as the objective of community health and well [12:06] being. Our service level changes related to the opening of [12:10] the new fair verne long term care home. In 2026. [12:14] This includes temporary HR support to get the new home [12:17] up and running. With the appropriate level of staff and [12:20] training, as well as proposed permanent staff with human resources [12:24] given the significant increase in staffing. Finally, frontline staff. To [12:30] staff the home have been included. The FTE impact of [12:33] these initiatives is zero point 25. In 2025 for a [12:38] portion of the temporary position, which is funded from an [12:41] existing capital project. And has no net levy impact. In [12:46] 2026, there are 120.4.4 FTE, with the majority being frontline. [12:52] Staff to support the increase in residents. Under the pillar [12:57] of our environment and the objectives of taking action together [13:00] and walking the talk. Staff have proposed service level changes [13:04] in both 25 and 26 to support the district's corporate [13:08] climate change action plan. The FTE in 2025 is two [13:14] with no net levy impact as these positions will be [13:17] funded from the climate change reserve funds that staff were [13:20] directed to establish through the 2024 budget. Deliberations. The net [13:25] levy impact in 2026 represents the first year of contributions [13:30] to the climate change reserve. This is one year later [13:33] than originally planned and proposed. In order to meet the [13:36] approved guideline. Under the pillar of our services and our [13:40] team, there are proposed service level changes for administrative support. [13:44] In the Cao's office. And within facilities, which is also [13:49] closely aligned with the additional housing units being brought online. [13:53] A digital media specialist is proposed to meet council's objective [13:56] of public engagement and the its security specialist FTE is [14:01] being removed to allow for outsourcing of these activities to [14:04] a contractor. Finally, a halftime position is proposed to support [14:09] the early on program. Within children's services. The FTE impact [14:13] of the changes under. This stream of service level changes [14:16] are 1.9 in 2025 and zero in 2026. In total, [14:22] there are 5.98 FTE proposed in 2025. And 121.94 proposed [14:31] in 2026 with the vast majority, or 118 of those [14:35] staff related to the frontline staff that will be needed [14:39] to be in place. To provide safe and effective care [14:42] for the residents of the new Fairvern long term care [14:45] home. And with that, I will pass the baton over [14:49] to Commissioner Steele. Thank you, Commissioner Olimer, and thank you, [14:54] committee, for taking the time to allow us to walk [14:57] through the budget today. So engineering and public works is. [15:06] A highly regulated operation for the district. Ranging from meeting [15:11] a minimum maintenance standards but also supporting the environment through [15:15] regulations with respect to. Management of hauled sewage and that [15:21] sort of thing. But one of the things that we're [15:24] always challenged with is to provide those services cost effectively. [15:28] And at the same time managing the expectations from the [15:32] community. Certainly a resident would expect that their road is [15:35] cleared first because that's the highest priority for them. And [15:39] really focusing on our levels of service to ensure that [15:42] the most benefit is arrived at within reasonable timelines to [15:47] support the community is. A critical aspect of the work [15:49] that the team does every day. We've implemented or we're [15:53] in the middle of developing and implementing our dedicated strategy. [15:57] For low volume roads to support the broader group of [16:00] the community that perhaps. Doesn't see, sort of. That direct [16:07] impact of daily traffic flows, but really to make the [16:11] right investments in that infrastructure and then really focusing on [16:15] our winter control efforts and making sure that we're putting [16:17] the right material in the right places at the right [16:19] times. So on this slide, we're sort of briefly showing. [16:27] The services that we provide and some of the key [16:29] aspects of our infrastructure. Almost 1600 lane kilometers of roads [16:34] and 100 bridges are entrusted to our staff to operate, [16:39] maintain and keep safe for folks. We patrol and service [16:43] 116,000 lane kilometers every year for winter service. And really [16:50] keeping the environment safe. By managing and treating hauled sewage. [16:56] Providing a direct benefit to residents who don't have access [16:59] to water and wastewater service within the urban service areas. [17:04] We treat 18 million liters of hauled sewage every year. [17:08] In addition to that, We have. This team also focuses [17:13] on delivering capital projects for the entire engineering public works [17:16] group and last year. We had 30 projects that were [17:21] in progress or completed, and so that's a significant investment. [17:24] In capital for the district and really servicing every resident, [17:29] business and visitor that goes through Muskoka. I think it's [17:32] hard to imagine that they wouldn't drive on a district. [17:35] Road benefit from hauled sewage. And for those. Who are [17:40] interested in recreational boating and shipping. They certainly use the [17:44] locks as well. This slide is actually quite. Proud to [17:51] share this because I think it's some of the things [17:52] that we think about. Every day, but forget. To demonstrate [17:58] the benefits to the community. When we looked at how [18:02] do we best as part of the strategic plan. We [18:04] have a focus on increasing the pavement condition index for [18:08] all the roads above. 55 and really looking at our [18:11] first AI enabled analysis of the road conditions. And that [18:15] gives us an objective perspective. On the condition of roads [18:19] allows us to target and laser focus investments in areas [18:22] that are going to provide. The best opportunities for the [18:26] community, but also. Will inform the low volume road strategy [18:30] to figure out how to prioritize those roads that perhaps [18:33] were a little bit lower than. In somewhat disrepair, but [18:39] allows us to prioritize those when we look at the [18:42] entire network. Optimizing winter maintenance. Certainly the benefits. Of minimizing [18:48] the amount of deicing chemicals applied to the roads. There's [18:51] an environmental benefit. But there's also a financial benefit to [18:54] the district. The less salt you put. On the roads, [18:57] the less it costs, inevitably benefiting taxpayers. And really, the [19:01] three r's of road winter maintenance are the right place, [19:05] the right time, and the right amount, and. We've built [19:08] that into our salt management plan, and that is being [19:11] implemented on an annual basis. And you can see that [19:13] in our annual assault report. Some of the things that [19:16] are really special to us is really implementing tools for [19:21] the public. To understand the business. So we've implemented the [19:25] municipal five one one. So that anyone can look on [19:28] our, on municipal five one one and see the current [19:30] status of. The road network. It was especially important during [19:34] the significant weather event. We had a couple of weeks [19:37] ago to let people know what to expect. They can [19:40] enter things into ways, for example, and then. Get diverted [19:43] around. It works most of the time. It's not perfect, [19:45] but it works most. Of the time. And so I [19:47] think the real value there is if someone wakes up [19:50] at 05:00 in the morning wants. To get off to [19:52] work. Doesn't really understand the status of the road network. [19:55] Can self serve, look online and figure out the current [19:58] status and then make decisions for their day to reduce [20:01] the impact. And then even just improving our communication to [20:05] let people know what to expect and how they could. [20:08] Be impacted. We've seen that significant benefit through our capital [20:13] projects, but certainly when their service disruptions, getting out to [20:16] the community as quickly as possible with things that matter [20:18] to them to make sure that they can make adjustments [20:21] through our day. And then lastly, Members of committee. We're [20:26] really excited about implementing the permit central program. It's an [20:30] industry software that's available and will allow us to expedite. [20:34] And expedite the permitting process so that if someone. Forgets [20:39] that they needed an oversized permit and they're worried about [20:42] it. On Saturday, they can go onto the website, they [20:44] can enter the data, they can make their payment Monday [20:47] morning. Staff will look at it, assess the application. All [20:51] online, removing all the manual processes. And it's available when [20:54] people need it and when it's convenient for them. So, [20:59] really, these are some of the things that the team [21:01] has done just through development and improvement. Over time, but [21:05] we're really excited to implement a number of these things [21:08] to really show the community that not only are we [21:11] looking for the best ways to deliver the services, but [21:14] we're doing it in a way that's open and transparent [21:16] and shares the condition. As quickly as we can. So [21:22] members of committee, the draft operating budget for the Engineering [21:24] and Public Works Group is shown here. As Commissioner Olimer [21:28] mentioned, the overall district budget. Is provided but for our [21:34] department itself. We're looking at a 4.81%. Net levy increase [21:41] for 2025 and a 3.93% net levy increase for 2026. [21:48] And what this shows is about 37 million. In. Net. [21:57] Levy for 2025 for our services. Which is a significant [22:01] portion of the district's overall levy costs. But certainly when [22:06] you think about the services that we provide and how [22:09] we touch each resident, Seems like a reasonable number. I [22:15] think the other important thing to note on this is [22:18] the number of staff that are involved. In delivering those [22:20] services. This department, or this part of the department is [22:25] composed of just under 40 people delivering these complex services [22:29] each and every day to residents. This shows. Really the [22:38] breakdown of. What that levy, the impact that Levy has [22:44] on an individual resident or individual property owner, and as [22:48] commissioner Olimer mentioned. This is based on a per $100,000 [22:52] assessment, and we're looking at. For a typical resident. They [22:58] would be impacted by about $127 for the entire year. [23:03] But this focuses also on. The 400 million. Dollar capital, [23:08] capital investment in infrastructure. Contributions to reserves that will continue [23:15] and continue to grow as per asset management plan of [23:17] 25.8 million and then really a capital budget for 2025 [23:21] of 42 million, showing our commitment, our continued commitment to [23:24] investing in infrastructure, getting the right projects completed at the [23:28] right time. Members of committee. This is slightly different based [23:32] on the 2026, but very similar. In the annual contributions [23:39] and really focusing on. A slight increase. Of 130. Dollars [23:46] per $100,000 investment. And this slide breaks down. The levee [23:56] component by the function. And as you can see, the [23:59] vast majority, that is, transportation. And roads, which is composed [24:03] of 33 million, or 35, almost 35 million in 2026. [24:08] Sewage lagoons, which includes hauled sewage and delivery of hauled [24:11] sewage to our wastewater plants. And then the locks and [24:15] public works admin, and we'll get into that in a [24:18] little bit more detail later on in the presentation. The [24:22] capital budget again, similar to. The expenditures is mainly focused [24:28] on roads, investment, and I think the key component here. [24:32] Is a continued investment in roads. Our average roads expenditures [24:36] over the next ten years is about $40 million, but [24:40] we'll see in the next few years a little bit [24:43] higher level of investment, and that's mainly as the capital [24:46] plans are developed. We fully implement the asset management plan [24:51] and then using that PCI data, we'll be able to [24:53] refine the capital program to make sure that we're making [24:55] the right investments. In our roads. And similarly tracking upward. [25:03] So we're going up from 42 million in 2025 to [25:06] 46. Million in 2026 and again. The continued investment in [25:11] this infrastructure is important, but I think what's also important [25:14] to share is in 25 and 26. All of those [25:18] investments are funded through reserves, so they won't be. Council. [25:25] 's direction to continue to contribute to reserves helps make [25:29] sure that we're prepared to make these investments. In these [25:33] times and won't require any external funding. For that work. [25:38] And so Public Works Administration. Now, the title of Public [25:41] Works Administration isn't very clear on what that involves. But [25:44] really, that's the capital teams that. Deliver. The ongoing capital [25:51] program. And so a lot of these, a lot of [25:54] this work. Is quite complex. Tendering is changing every day. [26:01] We're seeing some real challenges in the regulatory environment when [26:04] it comes to occupational health and safety. And even the [26:07] Construction act changes, which are coming out again this year. [26:10] And so really being able to navigate some of those [26:14] challenges while ensuring that we're delivering the best value for [26:17] taxpayer dollar. And really focusing this team. On funding the [26:23] best path forward, best way to deliver a project, but [26:26] also doing it in a way that's efficient and on [26:28] time and on budget. And then last thing on this [26:32] is really working on the roads rationalization study that was [26:35] done. Earlier this year and really focusing on the appropriate [26:39] capital investments with our partner municipalities tying in with their [26:42] capital programs to make sure that we're not digging up [26:46] a road that was just recently. Completed, and all these [26:53] are balanced against levels of service that are expected from [26:56] the community and members of committee around this table. And [27:00] so, as I mentioned, members of council and committee. The [27:05] expenses on this. Seems small at 87 or $90,000 in [27:10] 2025 and 2026, but. A lot of those expenses are [27:15] funded through the actual capital projects that the team delivers [27:18] on and so these are just sort of the leftover [27:21] costs. And what I would say is the significant increase [27:24] in 2025 is mainly related to the change in regulation [27:29] from the professional engineers of Ontario. Requiring. Specific continuing education [27:35] units. And so this is to allow for staff to [27:38] take the appropriate training. So they can maintain their licensing. [27:42] It's fairly small in the grand scheme of things, but [27:44] significant when you look at the expenditures in this budget. [27:49] And with that, members of committee, I'll hand it over [27:51] to Director Misco. Thank you. And thank you, members [28:01] of committee council. I'll walk through the transportation portion of [28:05] the tax support budget presentation here. So I'll just jump [28:10] right into it. Or not. So this outlines some of [28:15] the buys and objectives within the transportation section of engineering [28:18] and public works. Quite a number of bullets in there. [28:20] I'd like to call attention to a few highlights. Within [28:23] the traffic maintenance. And stormwater management portion. We're continuing to [28:28] increase maintenance and upgrades to our traffic control infrastructure, and [28:31] that's primarily related to. Aging overhead signals. So full traffic [28:36] signals as well. As replacing and upgrading or installing new [28:42] pedestrian crossings throughout our network as those needs arise, and [28:46] then the last bullet is compliance with consolidated linear infrastructure [28:50] requirements. And what that means is there's a regulatory requirement [28:54] for us to start. Obtaining environmental compliance approvals for stormwater [28:59] control. So that's kind of an emerging asset. That's coming [29:01] through right now. That's. Taking up. Some of our time [29:05] with respect to ensuring that we're complying with the requirements [29:07] of that as they develop under winter maintenance. I think [29:11] I mentioned earlier in the verbal update we're undertaking a [29:14] network review to determine consistent levels of service. And the [29:18] requirements for winter control, and that's based on a function [29:21] of traffic volume and speed on the roadways and subsequent [29:25] MMS requirements for snow depth and deicing. And removal of [29:31] snow requirements to ensure compliance. And then the second last [29:36] bullet. There is collaboration and assistance, probably in recent memory, [29:40] during significant weather events and state of emergency declarations with [29:43] the air. Municipal partners. Within the paved Roads section. Commissioner [29:48] Steele mentioned development of a low volume road strategy. So [29:50] more to follow on that in 2025, and it comes [29:53] up again later in this presentation. As mentioned earlier, capital [29:57] prioritization based on the results of that PCI or AI [30:01] scan that we completed earlier this year. So that's continuing [30:03] to inform our capital program, and then within bridges and [30:06] culverts. The biggest consideration we've got on that outside of [30:11] the critical maintenance of this infrastructure. Is just ensuring that [30:15] the impacts to the public during these large projects are [30:19] communicated clearly and in advance of construction. We saw that [30:23] on the Taylor Road job and act in Ireland as [30:25] well, which finished last year. An increasing expectation. And a [30:30] recognized expectation in delivering communication to the public on what [30:34] construction, how construction affects them. On their daily commutes. So [30:39] this slide here kind of outlines the budget drivers for [30:42] the year. I'll provide some notes to this not specifically [30:49] shown on the slide there. We're seeing increases with respect [30:52] to our paved roads in contracted services. So that's part [30:56] of the increase that you're seeing this year. In that [30:59] 5.58%. And that's in relation. To contracted services just for [31:04] routine maintenance on our roadways. So things like pothole filling [31:07] or culvert replacements, so we're requesting a budget increase in [31:10] that area of about 106,000. And then the two other [31:14] biggest ones in here are related to maintenance and drainage [31:17] and stormwater. Management. So once again, that's things like culvert [31:20] replacement or increasing the capacity of culverts we're also seeing. [31:25] A large need for ditching and brushing requirements on our [31:27] roadways. What that lets us do is maintain drainage on [31:30] the roadways to protect that infrastructure and protect the road, [31:34] base and road. Surface itself from frost heaven water damage. [31:38] And that brushing increase also allows us to clear lines [31:42] of sight, allow sunlight infiltration on our road. Roadways, we're [31:46] noticing that we're sort of falling behind in that, so [31:48] we're asking for an increase of about 35% to that [31:52] specific item, and that totals out. At about $170,000. So [31:57] this slide outlines some of our 2025 and 2026 capital [32:01] projects, as well as the ten year capital forecast. So [32:04] this is essentially a roll up of what our plans [32:06] are. Within that, you'll see things like capital surfacing for [32:13] 2025 at 14.6. What that essentially enshrines is all of [32:18] our paving program for 2025. So you're seeing everything we're [32:21] intending to spend on either hot mix paving, high float [32:24] paving. Or micro surfacing. So kind of that routine capital [32:27] maintenance is all coming in at about 14.6. Million for [32:30] 2025, and the 2026 numbers for same are noted through [32:34] there. There are a couple of projects that. We've got [32:37] intended for 2025 and 2026 that aren't necessarily listed on [32:41] here within the 2025 capital plan. We've got about $500,000 [32:47] allocated for roadside safety and improvements and that's. Things to [32:51] respond for identified concerns like the 118 section of Muskoka [32:56] Road. Sorry that Bracebridge section of Musk Road 118, as [32:59] well as some potential improvements within the Torrance area on [33:02] Muskok Road 169. We've also got a small amount alloc. [33:05] Allocated 110,000 for species at risk mitigation and initiatives so [33:09] we can support those as requests come in. To kind [33:13] of provide an offset or mitigation for those, and then [33:16] 810,000. In traffic upgrades planned for 2025. And that speaks [33:20] to the intersection upgrades, new pedestrian crossings. Noted. Within the [33:26] 2025 Capital plan is $2.8 million for low volume road [33:29] upgrades, part of that is to initiate a study on [33:32] how do we deal with these roads. What's the best [33:34] alternatives for these instead of just. The standard full reconstruct. [33:38] We've had a couple of meetings with consultants and contractors. [33:41] At this point to see what information can we gather [33:43] to best determine how to maximize investment on these roads [33:47] and you'll see that. Increase. Jumps up to 8.5 million [33:51] in 2026 as part of the capital plan, and then [33:54] there's a future allocation for low volume roads from there [33:56] forward within the ten year forecast. So onto one of [34:00] our favorite locations, the poor Carling locks. So both the [34:08] locks are basically. Run by district staff on a seasonal [34:13] basis. We do note some challenges with maintaining levels of [34:18] service at the locks, given the seasonality, recruitment and retention [34:22] of staff is always a challenge. Every year. It is [34:26] a medium length season. But our seasonal staff. So we're [34:32] recruiting every year for those staff. And they're just retaining [34:35] them, making sure that we can maintain that continuity year [34:37] to year. To maintain those levels of service. We've also [34:42] got some complex in water work currently underway at the [34:45] Port Carlin pavilion. That's a large scale replacement. Of the [34:49] decking, that end crib, and all the supports that you [34:52] see in the photo. There underneath. So that's pretty critical [34:55] for some of our commercial tourboat operators as well. As [34:57] access for the public to the waterfront. Across the lock [35:01] where you see the boat in the background there. We've [35:04] also noted some substantial timber deterioration both above and below [35:09] the waterline in this area. So we've got that exposed. [35:12] Now, the plan is to work that into 2020. Five's [35:15] work plan as well. And that'll include the area from [35:17] the lockmaster cabin right out to the. Fish hatchery docks. [35:21] You can see in the background there. So not quite [35:25] as large of a scale of an increase compared to [35:28] the transportation portfolio within the tax support budget this year. [35:35] Notable. Increases within the locks are transferred to reserves of [35:40] about $9,500 for 2025 and that's 2%. And that's just [35:45] to increase the reserve contributions in recognition that. Some of [35:48] the assets out there are starting to get aged, and [35:49] we need to start saving for the replacement. And then [35:52] there's some amortization for the large lock works completed a [35:56] few years back. And that's an internal financing that we're [36:00] still drawing down on to repay. Some of the ten [36:04] year plans that we have at the locks. You'll see. [36:09] We've got 291,000 for 2025, and then just shy of [36:13] half a million. For 2026. As I mentioned earlier, the [36:17] major works that we have going on there are the [36:19] pavilion and a lot of the decking replacement to maintain [36:23] trails and safety throughout the entire facility, and that includes [36:29] that section from the locks cabin to the finger docks, [36:31] currently at about $700,000 in capital upgrade are required. And [36:35] that's in addition. To the 3.3 that we're investing into [36:38] the pavilion for its replacement. So with that, I'll hand [36:41] it over to, I think, Commissioner Steele again for the [36:44] sewage. Balloons portion. Thank you, director Misco and council, our [36:51] committee thank you. So sewage lagoons at the district are [36:57] really intended. We're sort of envisioned to provide support to [37:03] residential. Sepage receiving. One of the challenges that we're seeing. [37:09] In our operations are changing nature of the material that [37:12] we're receiving, and so. Whether it's material from a porta [37:16] potty business. Or from a commercial operation. Where? They haven't [37:24] or can't discharge into the wastewater stream. We're seeing the [37:27] nature of the material received at these facilities changing. And [37:32] one of the particular issues that we have is when [37:35] you think about a lagoon, it's really just a pond. [37:37] We let it sit. There for a period of time. [37:40] It naturally breaks down, and then we discharge it to [37:42] the environment. So there's no advanced. Treatment that takes place. [37:45] And so when you start adding chemicals, deicing materials, that [37:48] sort of thing. From example, porta potty waste. There's no [37:53] processes to actually get rid of that. Material except for [37:56] the natural organic processes. And so what we're finding is [38:00] that. We're seeing more and more of those materials. Perhaps [38:02] it's because other jurisdictions are shutting down that commercial discharge. [38:06] And so they're landing in Muskoka, for example, and so [38:09] one of the things that's on our minds is how [38:11] do we do a better job of monitoring and making [38:14] sure that each of those loads that are delivered to [38:17] our facilities meet. The requirements of the. Discharge, but also [38:21] don't have a downstream impact of the water courses because [38:23] inevitably, if there's high salt content. It ends up in [38:27] the watercourse. Salt is a pretty chloride. Is a pretty [38:30] resilient chemical. And whatever lands in the pond. Lands in [38:36] the watershed, and so focusing on that. We're implementing. See, [38:41] on the capital program slide. Is increased availability of receiving [38:46] facilities at our wastewater plants. They're more positioned to deal [38:50] with sort of that complex waste material and so that's, [38:54] more to come on that program. In the coming years. [38:58] But I think that's really one of the challenges that. [39:03] We have very little ability to predict the material that [39:05] arrives. And again, just very straightforward. Similar to our composting [39:11] operations, where we can only bring in certain materials because [39:14] we're relying on bacteria to take care of that for [39:18] us. So our budget drivers, the overall budget. For the [39:24] sewage lagoons, and that includes receptage. Receiving facilities is just [39:28] under $4. Million a year over the next couple of [39:32] years. We have shown a decrease in 2025 in costs, [39:38] and then. An increase slightly up in 2026, but overall, [39:42] fairly even for that operation. I think what we'll see [39:46] in the next couple of years, and perhaps later on [39:49] this year, we'll be back to committee with a proposal [39:52] on how to best manage some of those challenges. We've [39:55] seen. And really, one of the things that's on our [39:58] minds is, with respect, To ensuring we get the appropriate [40:01] revenues for. The services we're providing. Some of our remote [40:06] lagoon facilities. Are sort of where we expect the haulers [40:11] to self report. This is how much I just. Charged. [40:13] This is when I discharged. This is the material I [40:14] discharged. And so, moving to a more sophisticated system that [40:19] allows us to track better, make sure we're receiving the [40:22] appropriate revenues, and then able to reinvest in the operation [40:26] to continue providing that service. Is important. And what that [40:29] might mean is looking at some of the lower used [40:32] facilities that perhaps wouldn't justify a capital investment to really [40:36] consider. Do you limit their operations? Do you perhaps temporarily [40:41] close them, for example? But I think we'll be looking [40:44] at that data carefully to see how many times they [40:47] were used and whether it's worth continuing to keep them [40:49] open. For now and perhaps in perpetuity. And so that [40:53] more to come on that members of committee. As you [40:58] can see here, as I mentioned, there's a number of [41:00] investments in the operation. And mainly focused on building. Receiving [41:05] facilities at our wastewater treatment plant. So Huntsville and golden [41:10] pheasant. Project is underway right now as part of our [41:15] current capital project and capital investment in Huntsville. And that [41:20] one will be built when. The upgrades are commissioned, and [41:23] then in 2026, we'll be looking at a treatment facility. [41:28] Or a receiving facility at the Gravenhurst treatment plant, and [41:32] that'll allow. Expanded opportunities for haulers to deliver their material [41:38] in a way that's controlled, metered. And really the benefit [41:41] for them is they're only going to pay for the [41:42] cubic meters. They discharge because we'll be metering it. And [41:45] so it's not just based on an estimate. It'll be [41:47] based on the actual discharges, but we'll also be able [41:50] to have an understanding of the nature. Of the material [41:55] because we have chemical samplers and that sort of thing [41:57] of the discharge and be able to manage them appropriately [42:00] as part of the treatment process. And so with that, [42:03] members of committee, that's our general overview of the budget. [42:10] We'll just quickly run through a few summary slides. So [42:14] for ensuring a public works. The net levy impact is [42:18] about $37.5 million for 2025 and about 39 million in [42:23] 2026. As I mentioned before, our full time staff equivalents [42:28] are flat at about just under 40 staff. And. That's [42:33] district staff. We do have a number of services that [42:35] are contracted out as you're aware. For example, road maintenance. [42:40] And mostly road maintenance and certainly the capital program. But [42:45] overall, I think it's a fairly flat budget. We've tried [42:48] to keep the cost as close to under the guideline [42:52] as possible. And again, the impact on the typical property [42:58] owner. $127 in 2025 per $100,000 in assessment. And $130 [43:07] per $100,000 in assessment in 2026. And that really not [43:11] only provides the day to day service, but also allows [43:14] us to contribute to reserves to ensure intergenerational equity that [43:18] we're making the right investments in infrastructure. And it's not [43:21] going to unfairly burden future generations. If we don't contribute [43:25] to those reserves. And so just a brief summary. Again, [43:29] I think this is sort of the key components of [43:32] the work we do. I won't reiterate it again, but. [43:37] I think really it's a service that provides, that we [43:39] provide to all residents, visitors and businesses across the district [43:44] and really focusing on keeping roads safe, making sure we [43:48] can get zigzagged across the district off the many lakes [43:51] and rivers, treating the environment, treating sewage to ensure the [43:55] environment's protected. And really focusing on delivering critical transportation projects. [44:02] And the water wastewater projects to support future generations. And [44:07] so when you think about it and the average property [44:10] value of $300,000 in 2016. It's about a dollar a [44:14] day. So all those services provide our property owners. These [44:20] services for about a dollar a day when you factor [44:22] into the costs and with that, members of committee happy [44:26] to take any questions. Okay. Thank you for that. I'll [44:33] say my thank yous now. I just want to thank [44:35] the budget team. And the staff for putting this. In [44:41] really understandable language for people, I think. That we can [44:44] get bogged down with numbers, and I appreciate that. This [44:49] is easy to read. Pretty explained very well throughout the [44:54] presentation and without having to dive too far in, so [44:58] thank you. For that. Thanks for all the hard work [44:59] that goes into it from our directors and our budget. [45:03] Team. So. I will now see. And I don't see [45:08] any. Public participation. So. We will move forward with questions [45:16] from committee, and I recognize. There are two council members [45:20] here. And please give me a wave. If you want [45:25] my attention. So, committee. Are there any questions? I'm going [45:29] to go over to Councilor Kelly. Thank you. And through [45:33] you. I wanted to say a few things. First of [45:37] all, Excellent presentation. It's easy to read, it's easy to [45:42] follow. I will get bogged down in numbers, but not [45:46] today, because I brought the wrong darn book. But we'll [45:49] have more for that later. I really think you've done [45:53] an admirable job of coming in sort of with. A [45:56] pretty tight budget or on a steer budget. So I [46:01] don't really want to talk too much about the detail [46:03] on the numbers, right? Now, but I would like, if [46:06] I may, to talk a little bit about process and [46:09] a bit. A little bit about timing. And ultimately a [46:11] little bit about. Value. Here's my primary concern, and you're [46:16] going to hear this if you don't. Hear it from [46:18] me, you'll hear it from somebody. At each of the [46:21] meetings starting today, this afternoon and two tomorrow and probably [46:25] again when we get together as a committee of the [46:27] whole. For whatever reason. Certainly in the township of Muskoka [46:32] Lakes almost excluded the opportunity. For middle class people to [46:42] buy or even rent. In the town. It's become too [46:46] prohibitively expensive. As you know, we have a committee working [46:51] on housing and homelessness. Part of my frustration. Got nothing [46:56] to do or a little to do with you. Is, [46:59] I think we're fighting against this sort of incrementally increase. [47:03] We can measure it as small as we want. And [47:07] it's dollar per 100,000. There are no $100,000 units in [47:10] our town or on any of our towns. There's no [47:14] $300,000 units. I'd be surprised if you could find a [47:17] $500,000 unit, and as a result, I hear director Misco [47:21] say you can't get people to work in the locks [47:23] on a permanent basis. We can't get anybody to work [47:25] anywhere. Because. There's no entry level. Opportunity for people to [47:32] settle and live among us. Attendance or not attendance so [47:36] much, but participation in arenas participation in organized sports. It's [47:42] all diminishing. It's all going away because literally the types [47:45] of people that build communities. Haven't got a place there [47:49] anymore. We have 8000 people. Just a little under 8000. [47:53] People on our sign. Welcome. To the township of Muskoka [47:58] Lakes, and I'm going to tell you, and I know [47:59] it sounds ridiculous. I get a great laugh every time [48:02] I say I'm here from the township in Muskoka Lakes [48:04] to talk about efficiency and price controls. But the 8000 [48:08] permanent residents, there are relatively modest means, and I can [48:13] tell you probably half of them if they had to [48:15] start all over. Couldn't afford to come back to live. [48:18] Where they are right now. So part of my goal [48:21] over these budget exercises is to make sure we're not [48:24] making that situation anymore difficult or challenging or worse. Than [48:28] it has to be. So I guess my first kind [48:31] of questions. First one for Mr. Steele. Commissioner Steele. Commissioner. [48:38] Yeah. Thank you. I'm always intrigued about the process of [48:43] building a budget. I've built a few myself and I've [48:45] overseen several being built, and you can get this kind [48:48] of lazy approach. To just throw 10% on everything and [48:51] we'll call it a day. You can get. This sort [48:58] of. Let's break it down into fine components and figure [49:00] out what's changed year over year. And what went over [49:03] budget? What went under budget? So enlighten me a little [49:07] bit. How do your department heads tackle the job of [49:12] building a budget for an upcoming year or for five [49:15] years out. Commissioner. Thank you. Thank you, Councilor Kelly, for [49:20] that question. And through you, Madam Chair. So the process [49:23] really starts with. We start with the baseline budget from [49:27] the prior year. But the teams are tasked to look [49:30] at sort of what's our historical spend? What are the [49:33] opportunities for adjustment. One of the challenges we have, especially [49:36] on the transportation side, is we don't know what the [49:39] weather is going to be like this year, and so [49:40] we have to sort of take a general average of [49:43] where we think will land. And in some years we [49:46] are above the budget. In some years we're below the [49:50] budget. But I think it's important. To, at least from [49:53] that perspective on the roads operations side, we look at [49:56] sort of the five year average, three year average. What's [49:59] reasonable? Where do we have variances the prior year? And [50:02] what was that caused by? And then refine it from [50:04] there. So I think there's, a lot of work that [50:06] happens in the manager, frontline, staff level. Well, I shouldn't. [50:11] Say. I think I know that that happens because. I've [50:13] seen the changes. But again, it's still an estimate, but [50:17] we are respectful of making sure that it's. The appropriate [50:20] amounts and so that there isn't sort of this over [50:23] an over commitment. Of funding because inevitably that means it's [50:28] more on the levee, and then that has the exact [50:30] impact that you're talking about. And so what I would [50:32] say is we critically look at it. And I would [50:35] say that our frontline staff are looking at it to [50:37] the minutiae. To the very detailed level. Like director Misco [50:40] mentioned, we're underspending on brushing. But we're seeing impacts to [50:44] the community, so we need to bump up the brushing [50:47] investment. And does that mean that other areas drop down? [50:50] Of course, because we'll look at. Oh. We're overspending on [50:54] some other aspect. But I think the other part that [50:56] we have to balance. Is the expectations from the community [51:00] on level of service, because we can certainly cut back [51:03] our levels. Of service, but there'll be a lot of [51:05] folks knocking on our door to say why. Isn't my [51:07] road plowed within 24 hours. And so it's just sort [51:11] of. Finding that right balance. But what I would say [51:13] is we take a hard look at all the areas [51:15] of the budget. It won't be perfect because we don't [51:18] know. What's going to come, but I can say with [51:22] a level of certainty that that work. Is being done, [51:25] and it's not as simple as rinse and repeat, as [51:27] sort of you suggested. There's always opportunities for efficiencies. Like [51:32] I mentioned in efficiency slide. Making incremental improvements, reducing the [51:38] level of staff efforts. So the permit central is a [51:41] perfect example of that. Historically, our process was someone phones [51:46] in, says, I'd like a permit, we take that hands. [51:49] It off to the permit person. They say submit an [51:51] application, very manual processes, then they have to call the [51:55] office and make a payment, for example. So implementing that [51:58] very simple, low cost technology, not only reduces the staff [52:02] time to. Deliver that service gives better customer service, but [52:06] also, and I should say, the staff time in engineering. [52:09] Public works, but it also reduces the impact to the [52:11] organization because. For example, our friends in legal don't have [52:16] to write up an agreement because we've got sort of [52:18] boilerplate. And so really looking at the corporate benefits of [52:21] finding implementation of technology. Ways to do things better and [52:25] faster. But provide a higher level or better level of [52:29] service. I hope that helps answer your question. I did. [52:32] Thank you. Go ahead. Yes, Commissioner Almer. Thank you, madam [52:38] chair. And I just wanted, I think commissioner Steele. Did [52:41] a great job of starting the response to member Kelly's [52:46] question, but I wanted to add on to the comments [52:50] if possible. So Councilor Kelly mentioned that it's an austere [52:56] budget for engineering and public works. This is absolutely an [53:00] austere budget because a number of cuts were made to [53:04] the budget. After the directors and the frontline staff had [53:08] gone through. Those very detailed reviews of the line by [53:14] line expenditures. So maybe just to give the rest of [53:18] committee and any members who happen to be watching. An [53:22] overview of our budget process. We do exactly that. We [53:26] set basically our marching orders with council back in March. [53:30] Based on what we can see, the increases to the [53:32] base services will look like and then each of the [53:35] directors and frontline staff and managers goes away and reviews [53:39] their line lump by line. Budget to try to identify [53:41] efficiencies. Look at what was overspent in previous years. Are [53:45] there any opportunities to decrease those expenditures, balancing it with [53:48] level of service? After all that work is done. We [53:53] have a peer review process. And so once we have [53:57] a draft budget in this year, we had, I think, [54:00] two or three peer review meetings for the rate supported [54:03] budget and then three peer review meetings for the tax [54:07] supported budget. And really, what happens in those meetings is [54:11] senior staff, all of senior staff, review the budget again. [54:16] Line by line, and each director is invited to really [54:19] defend the budget that they're putting. Forward and explain any [54:23] increases and sometimes even decreases. So if we see something [54:27] that looks like it, was over. Overspent in previous years [54:30] and it hasn't been adjusted. We'll ask the question. It [54:34] looks like you've missed something here. Or it looks like. [54:38] You haven't decreased. This in accordance with what your previous [54:41] year spends are why. So after that whole process was [54:46] done, I have to be honest, we were still short. [54:50] We needed to find. More savings to be able to [54:53] hit guideline. And one of those extraordinary measures we took [54:57] is we did reduce the proposed roads maintenance and operation. [55:02] Budgets by a further 200,000 in 2025 and 662,000 in [55:08] 2026. And those are cuts that we are going to [55:11] have to really. Evaluate and look at the level of [55:15] service that's provided to be able to hit those guidelines, [55:18] and so. I just wanted to make sure that we [55:21] added that to commissioner Seal's comments because. I wanted to [55:26] make sure I drew attention to that. Subsequent. I do [55:30] thank you. I agree with you. I think it actually [55:33] isn't quite on a steer budget. I didn't use that [55:36] term because people think it's a compliment, but it's just. [55:38] An expectation. So thank you for that. Okay. The only [55:45] other big issue that I really want to throw, and [55:47] it's to Commissioner Olimer. Or to CEO Stevens. I'm a [55:51] little concerned that. We're making decisions in an environment where [55:56] there are so many unknowns to come down. The pike. [56:00] Everything from hospital local share. We've had the hospital kind [56:04] of resolved for a while. And yet local share. I [56:09] don't think we've had. Well, we haven't. Had a local [56:10] share meeting. Maybe this year or since really early this [56:13] year. And I realize they are not well or completely [56:18] within. They're not at all within our jurisdiction. But the [56:21] simple fact of the matter is they all come out [56:22] of the same envelope and. If we don't build our [56:25] budget as tight and efficiently as we can to take [56:28] into. The fact that it can reach into every pocket [56:32] I have. I only have a fixed amount of money. [56:35] Things like the OPP budget, other unknowns that may well [56:38] be lurking. I just don't know whether I realize in [56:43] something like EPW, there probably is it's not like you [56:47] can decide to not plow. We have a basic level [56:50] of service. We have to uphold. Basically based on. The [56:55] last ten days or 20 days. The ingredients. For a [56:59] really strong level of servants or service are all in [57:02] place because I was quite pleased. And not surprised, but [57:05] quite pleased with. How it was all handled. I wouldn't [57:09] propose changing that at all. But I'm really anxious that [57:12] we're looking at this at 13. What is it? How [57:15] much per 100,000? Again I forget. Anyone. I wrote it [57:21] down. 1652 per 100,000. At Township in Moscow Lakes. We [57:27] layered onto that another thirteen point nineteen cents per one [57:29] hundred thousand. We've got education. We've got a local share. [57:36] We got op. I don't know where the opp. Sits [57:38] in this budget or how it washes out and anything [57:42] else that might come along. Down the pike, we wind [57:44] up with humongous headache. And if we're not organized efficiently, [57:51] if we are not operating efficiently, if we're not financing [57:54] our operations efficiently. We're passing along too much of a [57:58] burden to people that we really need to see this [58:02] place as a place to settle and grow a community [58:05] and. That's really my single largest concern with all of [58:08] this, so timing is a big one. I realize that [58:12] you're never going to know perfectly everything. I'm nervous that [58:17] we don't know enough about too many things, too many [58:19] big. Ticket things to know how the. 1652 is going [58:23] to plug into somebody's wallet. Sure. Madam chair. Perhaps I [58:28] can start. Sure. With a response. Absolutely. There are quite [58:36] a lot of unknowns, but. I think. That's generally the [58:43] case when we're preparing the budget. With respect to the [58:47] opp. The budget before committee today. Includes the full amount [58:54] of the opp increase. The catch is we've used significant [59:00] amounts. Of reserve. To pay that increased bill and then [59:05] that reserve. Would be phased out over four years. We [59:10] will have an amendment, a proposed amendment, later today. We [59:15] have received preliminary information from Solicitor General's office that has [59:20] significantly reduced the impact of. That increase in OPP costs. [59:26] That being said, because we had used reserves. That's great. [59:31] Now we don't have to use reserves. It doesn't really. [59:33] Change the levy impact in 2025. It does reduce the [59:38] levy in 2026 because we had been phasing out those [59:41] reserves. And so we had been taking on that expenditure [59:44] over time. But. I hear and understand the concern. There [59:51] are a number of large. Commitments that. Have been. Considered. [59:59] I wouldn't say necessarily made by council, but certainly considered [1:00:03] and direction has been given. To staff to move forward [1:00:06] with them. Councilor Kelly mentioned local share and hospital capital. [1:00:13] That's. One affordable and attainable housing is a significant investment. [1:00:19] I think we need to balance those needs. In the [1:00:22] community. We recognize that. We need to increase affordable and [1:00:27] attainable housing in Muskoka. But some of the other investments [1:00:31] also include things like climate change. So we will be [1:00:35] bringing forward a report later today about the corporate climate [1:00:38] change action plan and what that looks like over the [1:00:40] next ten years. So there are some significant investments. That [1:00:48] staff have included in this budget and will continue for [1:00:51] a number of years. And so one of the things [1:00:55] that we can do is provide a very high level [1:00:58] expectation of. What those directions mean on the tax rate [1:01:04] for the next five to ten years. Even though we. [1:01:11] Will find savings. We'll try to cut services where we [1:01:14] can to be able to meet. The guidelines and directions [1:01:18] set by council. The fact of the matter is we've [1:01:21] committed to increasing investments in these very important projects. These [1:01:27] projects are the ones that were identified as council's strategic [1:01:30] priorities. And so I think it's appropriate that staffs responding [1:01:34] to those priorities. But there is no doubt about it [1:01:37] that those increasing investments will impact the tax rate for [1:01:41] a number of years to come. I wrote down. During [1:01:51] that stop approving things. I think that's what it comes [1:01:54] down to. These are approved things that council have approved. [1:01:57] And they got to be paid for. So I just [1:02:00] summarized. I think that nicely. Okay, so I'm going to [1:02:06] go over to councilor Rhodes, and then I see your. [1:02:09] Hand chairly. Thank you. Through your chair, Lorenz. Absolutely agree. [1:02:14] I'm a little nervous about the budget for sure. But [1:02:18] I guess my question goes against that. And I also [1:02:21] agree that there's people struggling we need to make sure [1:02:23] that it's affordable. But the reduction in the roads budget [1:02:27] was something that really jumped out to me because. People [1:02:30] think garbage and roads is what I pay for my. [1:02:33] For my taxes. And so I guess my question is [1:02:37] maybe if you can kind of ease my little anxiety [1:02:40] on that piece. But also my second question would be, [1:02:43] is there a space in this budget for you? Commissioner [1:02:46] Steele that. You are very worried about. Have we cut [1:02:51] back so far to try to meet these targets? And [1:02:53] that was the direction to staff and. That's not a [1:02:58] slight against staff by any means, but is there a [1:03:00] space that you're. Not going to sleep well for the [1:03:03] next year or two years. That we need to at [1:03:06] least be thinking about. And yeah, that roads piece. Was [1:03:11] one that really stuck out to me. Commissioner Steele. Thank [1:03:14] you, madam Chair. I think the one thing that's important [1:03:18] to understand. So we've certainly adjusted the budget on the [1:03:22] roadside, mainly focusing on sort of the variable cost and [1:03:26] sort of that five year three year average, and so. [1:03:30] The risk in our minds is that if a road [1:03:33] needs to be plot, we'll still plow it. And so [1:03:36] we will inevitably. Have a variance at the end of [1:03:39] the year, so the risk is that we could be [1:03:41] over. On that budget. And it's really thinking about, right, [1:03:45] sizing the costs compared to. What we're budgeting. Like I [1:03:51] mentioned earlier, we sort of start with a five year [1:03:53] average. We say, realistically, what do we expect? Are there [1:03:57] opportunities to find efficiencies? And certainly looking. At. I guess [1:04:02] what I would say is it's not like someone went [1:04:03] and said just put a knife to it and cut [1:04:05] that out. I think it was still strategic on how [1:04:08] can we refine it just a little bit more? And [1:04:10] as Commissioner Oliver mentioned, yes, it was further. Cuts across [1:04:14] the board to figure out how we fit into that [1:04:16] sort of lens, but I think the risk, sort of [1:04:20] the day to day things. That keep us up for [1:04:22] night are plowed roads, potholes filled, that sort of thing, [1:04:26] and. So perhaps. We can still sort of refine our [1:04:30] operations to make sure we fit in with. Those guidelines. [1:04:34] And if we have a significant weather event that blows [1:04:37] the budget, then. We'll still provide that service. And I [1:04:41] think that's perhaps that's the message here is we believe [1:04:45] this is the best foot forward, but we don't know [1:04:48] what's going to happen, and certainly the weather. Is very [1:04:52] variable and can have a significant impact. Last year we [1:04:55] had very few. Snow events, so we were able to [1:05:00] use some of those dollars. And doing additional maintenance that [1:05:04] we needed to do because of the conditions. And so [1:05:06] I guess. I've sort of left it as a long [1:05:09] answer, but the short answer is, I don't. Think there's [1:05:11] things. I mean, I don't sleep very much anyways. But [1:05:15] I think there's nothing specific in this budget that says, [1:05:18] wow, that's a huge mistake, and I wish we didn't [1:05:20] do it. I think we'll still continue. To manage that. [1:05:25] Like we do with most of our operations and. The [1:05:28] real risk is there could be a variance at the [1:05:30] end of the year. If that helps. Chair Lehman. Thanks, [1:05:37] madam chair. A couple of comments and a couple of [1:05:39] questions, I guess. So. Just picking up. On that topic. [1:05:44] In the budget binder, it indicates that the total expenditure, [1:05:48] capital expenditure on roads and bridges, goes from 33 is [1:05:51] proposed at 33 million in 2025, goes up to 39 [1:05:56] in 2026. So on the capital side. I mean, that's [1:06:00] a 20% increase. In investment in roads. Just between this [1:06:07] year's budget or next year's budget. I guess between 25 [1:06:09] and 26, and I know that 33 is up. From [1:06:14] 2024. I guess. The moving parts in this. Because the [1:06:20] same thing that councilor Rhodes mentioned jumped out at me [1:06:24] is the operating cut. If you will. Or the use [1:06:29] of a different five year average, I suppose, is what [1:06:31] I'm hearing to establish the annual envelope. And I'm sure [1:06:37] if we took December 2024, As our spending example, we'd [1:06:42] need to allocate three times as much money. But to [1:06:46] your very good point, Commissioner Steele. We barely had a [1:06:50] winter last year, so it varies so much, and it's [1:06:52] varying even. More. And into that challenge. Comes. What's the [1:06:57] right number to budget? I took some comfort from that [1:07:01] comment, though, that says we're not going to not do [1:07:04] it if the weather is bad. We're going to take [1:07:07] care of the essential services, and then we're going to [1:07:10] manage. However, the budget variances end up working out. But [1:07:14] I guess the question that it raises. Is. I know [1:07:19] there is a practice in some municipalities where if the [1:07:21] winter control budget is underspent instead of sort of spending [1:07:25] the extra on additional operating maintenance, you put it in [1:07:29] a reserve. Against a bad winter. Is that not our [1:07:33] typical procedure? Thank you, madam. Chair, perhaps? I'll try and [1:07:43] respond to that one. For chair Lehman. We don't have. [1:07:50] A separate winter maintenance reserve. We have a single roads [1:07:53] capital reserve, and so that is where we would draw [1:07:57] those funds from in the event of a variance. So [1:08:03] in the past, I think there has been some conversation [1:08:06] about a winter maintenance. A separate winter. Maintenance reserve. However, [1:08:12] for the time being, We've simplified it and used the [1:08:16] Rhodes Capital Reserve. Okay, so I guess the overall question, [1:08:22] staying with the big pictures within EPW for this meeting. [1:08:27] This budget is proposing a substantial increase in capital expenditure [1:08:30] on roads, so we're going to fix more roads over [1:08:33] the next couple of years. The risk is that we're [1:08:36] going to run a negative variance within the operating and [1:08:39] maintenance. Line. But the overall spending decisions that you are [1:08:44] proposing to committee and to council are a substantial increase. [1:08:48] In expenditure on fixing roads that's funded by a reserve [1:08:53] transfer. Which increases at 5% a year. And as I [1:08:57] understand it, that 5% wasn't. Changed despite the budget pressures [1:09:01] this year. Almer. Thank you, madam Chair. Excellent question from [1:09:10] Chair Lehman. The Rhodes contribution was maintained. At 5% increase. [1:09:18] Really? What? That is? It's a bit of a holdover. [1:09:24] We have to prepare an asset management plan that considers [1:09:27] a full financing plan. Of our program in July of [1:09:32] 2025, so we're planning to bring that forward to committee [1:09:36] and council. In May and June this year, and so [1:09:40] that will be taking a longer term look at what [1:09:45] the investment in those capital reserves needs to look like [1:09:48] over the next ten and 20 years. It seemed. A [1:09:53] little premature to increase the roads capital reserve contributions before [1:09:58] that work had been completed. Okay. I appreciate that. That's, [1:10:07] I think, a discussion that. We'll all sort of look [1:10:10] forward to, because that right sizing. Of the infrastructure spend. [1:10:16] To meet whatever level of deficit we believe continues to [1:10:20] exist. And how far we can go in addressing that. [1:10:23] Sounds like it'll be some work for 2025, and presumably [1:10:27] in the 2026 economic update, there's the potential to adjust. [1:10:30] Okay. My other question. Then you had to know this [1:10:34] was coming. Director Misco on roads. What are the plans [1:10:38] for that LVR investment in 2025 and 2026? Which roads [1:10:43] are going to get done. Direct to me, scope. Thank [1:10:47] you. Through you, madam Chair. I'll just pull up my [1:10:49] notes. Here because I have some of them listed in [1:10:52] case I was asked. So currently, right now, the status [1:10:59] of the low volume road strategy is related to we've [1:11:02] onboarded a consultant. We've met with contractors. On how best [1:11:08] to manage these. How do we maximize the investment on [1:11:10] these? So the plan is to work through that this [1:11:11] winter. Gather things like geotechnical information. What's the road? Bedlike. [1:11:16] What are the road conditions like? Obtain that data at [1:11:19] the same time we're reviewing kind of. What new practices [1:11:23] are within the industry instead of just a standard you're [1:11:25] going to need. X amount of granular b, x amount [1:11:28] of granular a, and x amount of asphalt to fix [1:11:30] this road. Are the things like geotextiles, concrete stabilized bases [1:11:36] that we can start to look into. That will make [1:11:38] up part of that investment for 2025 is to potentially [1:11:41] pilot some of these. New alternatives within our road network. [1:11:47] On the list for that would be right now, as [1:11:49] part of the assignment on the list is geotechnical analysis [1:11:51] on twelve Mile Bay roads on the scoker. Road twelve [1:11:54] Muskoka Road 51, which is Echo Lake road at Muskoka. [1:11:57] Road 14, which is Fraserburg Road. So those are kind [1:12:00] of our three. That's the three that are making up [1:12:02] part of this assignment. We've got capital plans for 2025. [1:12:07] 2026. Right now, assigned to what? I'll? Call lower volume [1:12:11] roads is Muskoka Road 1213, 32 and 51 all have [1:12:17] allocated capital funding, and the intent is to fund those [1:12:20] improvements from the low volume road strategy. Recognizing that our [1:12:24] investment will increase into 2026 once we've kind of finalized. [1:12:31] Had a chance to assess what these new treatments look [1:12:33] like and how they perform as well. And making sure [1:12:37] that the investment that we're looking to put on these [1:12:38] roads. Is going to get us the bang for the [1:12:41] buck that we're looking for, short of. Just that $1.5 [1:12:45] million to reconstruct. Can we spend that money better and [1:12:48] maximize the length of improvement we're able to undertake. I [1:12:53] hope that helps answer your question a bit there. It [1:12:55] does, yeah. Thanks very much. My last question. Or maybe [1:12:58] just the comment, madam chair, because I recognize there's a [1:13:01] number of budget meetings yet to come. It strikes me [1:13:04] in reading the budget. That one of the major challenges. [1:13:11] We are managing to your point, madam Chair, is we've [1:13:13] made some expensive commitments to tackle. Some expensive problems. Mayor [1:13:19] Kelly rightly has said housing at the top of that [1:13:22] list. For two years now, we've talked about how that [1:13:25] affects everything in Muskoka from the economy to every aspect [1:13:29] of life here, and healthcare and everything else. But then [1:13:36] we had some late breaking bad news. And then some [1:13:39] even later, breaking good news that some of that bad [1:13:42] news wasn't going to hit us. And that was the [1:13:44] opp cost increase. Notwithstanding all of that. It's sort of [1:13:50] shaking out, as I understand it, reading the budget. We're [1:13:54] trying to manage, amping up our pace of investment into [1:13:57] some really important things. Housing, obviously at the top of [1:14:01] that list, but also asset management also. Climate change. And [1:14:08] certainly the things we've been asked to do that are [1:14:10] outside our remit like a hospital local share. So the [1:14:14] challenge we've got, sort of strategically, I think, with the [1:14:16] math, is you're. Trying to reach an increased pace of [1:14:20] investment. But we know that doing all of that in [1:14:24] one year would be prohibitively expensive for our residents in [1:14:28] terms of the level of tax increase required. The district [1:14:32] is in excellent financial condition due to excellent work by [1:14:36] staff and previous counsels and so we try and mitigate [1:14:40] that through smoothing strategies. That slow, that pace of increase. [1:14:46] And still try and move us forward in the meantime. [1:14:50] And I guess my comment, madam chairs, that comes through [1:14:52] in this presentation, it comes through in the overall document. [1:14:56] That as an example, if we're trying to move from [1:14:59] where we are today, To. Doing 50% more five years [1:15:04] from now. You don't do that 50% in one year [1:15:08] or two years, you do that 5%. Over ten years [1:15:11] or 6% over eight years, and you've made some choices [1:15:14] around how we do that. And the math plays out [1:15:17] this way. I guess, members of committee, the comment I [1:15:21] would make. Starting at the start of this process. Is, [1:15:26] I think let's learn what our residents are getting for. [1:15:30] That investment, and I think that's very well documented in [1:15:32] the presentation. And then there's choices around those priorities and [1:15:37] how quickly we hit them. But the other comment I [1:15:40] would make is that. If there's a positive of our [1:15:45] financial condition. We've talked about this often in our first [1:15:48] two budgets. It's that we have some degree on the [1:15:53] capital side of flexibility. To. Handle these different, very expensive [1:16:00] projects. And I know Commissioner Olimer's head is probably exploding [1:16:03] when I say that, because. We've already made commitments to [1:16:07] things like the Fairvern home and other projects, and so [1:16:11] that flexibility. It's not like there's a big chunk of [1:16:14] money sitting in the drawer that we can deploy to [1:16:16] offset the tax increases. But I think the comment I'm [1:16:21] making, Madam chair, is we, as committee and committee of [1:16:25] the whole will need to balance those priorities and how [1:16:28] quickly we accomplish them. And then decide what, if any, [1:16:33] fiscal impact on the corporation. We're willing to stomach. Associated [1:16:39] with those smoothing strategies because they're already in here. But [1:16:43] those are choices that we make as well to try [1:16:46] and offset the impact on our taxpayers. Anyway, I'll end [1:16:49] my remarks there. But I think staff of the presentation [1:16:53] and I think as one of our major priorities. Coming [1:16:56] through in here, which is roads. That one number pops [1:17:00] out on the roads. The annual envelope for operation and [1:17:03] maintenance. But what's very important, I think, for us to [1:17:06] communicate and understand is this is a budget for increased [1:17:09] investment in roads, and there is further work coming in [1:17:12] 2025 to further right. Size that investment. Thanks, madam chair. [1:17:18] Okay, committee, any other questions? Councilor armor? Thanks very much, [1:17:24] chair Lorenz, just more of a comment. It was nice [1:17:27] to see the budget or for EPW to come in [1:17:31] for staffing compliment, to see the state and status quo. [1:17:34] Because that's one thing we always hear about, is that [1:17:36] we're always building the empire hiring more people. So I [1:17:39] just want to say. Thanks for that. It's nice to [1:17:45] see. Okay. Any other questions? I've got one. [1:17:56] So. We talk about needs and wants, and when we [1:18:01] see the numbers for the locks and I'm. Not saying [1:18:04] I'm not trying to pick on the walks, but we [1:18:07] see the numbers. For the locks. 6000 users, what, 6 [1:18:12] million over the next. So many years. Do we see [1:18:21] other than a nice to have, nice to be able [1:18:23] to go from Joe to Rosso or Lake Muskoka. Instead [1:18:29] of having to trailer your boat from one lake to [1:18:30] the other. Considering that you can access port Carling from [1:18:34] either side of the lakes. Is there a huge economic [1:18:39] driver for the locks? Do we see commerce being built [1:18:44] around this investment? Because it's an awful lot of money. [1:18:52] In my opinion, that's a lot of affordable housing units, [1:18:55] I guess. So just a quick question about that. And [1:19:00] again, I know that. We have the. Because I've been [1:19:05] there. I've done it. I've gone through it. I. Appreciate [1:19:08] that. It's a lovely afternoon. But I could eat at [1:19:12] turtle jocks from either side of the locks. So my [1:19:17] question is. Do we see a huge boost in commerce [1:19:21] because of those locks? Do you want me to take [1:19:24] that, commissioner? So thank you for your question. We have [1:19:32] not analyzed the economic impact of the locks. Certainly, if [1:19:37] that's something that committee wanted us to sort of tackle. [1:19:41] We could look at. What the cost of doing a [1:19:43] review. I'm thinking that the last time we've sort of [1:19:46] done direct and indirect economic impact of things. It's more [1:19:49] of the airport is where we've done that sort. Of [1:19:51] work. And so we could do that analysis to say, [1:19:54] what is that supporting? The history of this is and [1:19:59] why it's in the district is that it was provincially. [1:20:02] An asset originally. It is obviously substantial infrastructure like, there's [1:20:09] no doubt on that, and we certainly have more. Work [1:20:11] to do on assessing. That infrastructure. And its state of [1:20:17] repair and cost. Costs of renewal. But it was downloaded [1:20:22] to the district. And the reason that it was at [1:20:24] that level is because. It was so significant. It was [1:20:28] considered regional because of the level of the infrastructure. It [1:20:33] is the only locks that the district has, certainly, and [1:20:35] I know that there's probably some area municipalities that would [1:20:38] like to upload their locks, and we will say, no, [1:20:40] thank you. But they're at a much lower, smaller level. [1:20:45] Than. What we have at poor carling. But if it's [1:20:49] of the interest. Of. So you see the utilization for [1:20:52] sure. That's just of the big locks, the small. Locks [1:20:55] can get used far more substantially because. They're self managed. [1:21:01] And certainly we can ask the councilors what they see [1:21:03] in port. Carling. I know it's very busy during the [1:21:05] summer. Obviously not as busy in the winter. But we [1:21:09] can do that sort of analysis if you want. I [1:21:12] did. Thought I saw Councilor Kelly make a move first. [1:21:19] But I do see your hand, councilor. Cooper. So I'll [1:21:21] go to you after that. Councilor Kelly. No. I thought [1:21:25] you had leaned in. Yeah, I thought you were calling [1:21:27] on councilor. Cooper. I just saw your reaction first. I [1:21:33] don't know how to respond to that. I suppose we [1:21:35] could fill it full of. Dirt and plant roses in [1:21:37] it and call it a rose garden. But the fact [1:21:41] is, If you want to accelerate the pace and the [1:21:48] stress to try to remove ourselves from the district. I [1:21:51] think that would be a good first step. I don't [1:21:54] know. I have no comment. I mean. You're never going [1:21:59] to make economic sense, I suspect. Although I will tell [1:22:02] you a lot. Of the traffic that you can't record, [1:22:05] whether it's 6000 passages a year. I think that was [1:22:07] the number. The ones that you can't just winch out [1:22:11] onto an easy loader trailer are the barges full of [1:22:15] building materials that go through every single day. So it [1:22:18] is a main transportation route for that. I guess there's [1:22:21] workarounds. We could have barges on both sides. But the [1:22:25] fact is, it's a historical part of. A cultural part. [1:22:31] Of our township. I can tell you, it will be [1:22:36] going nowhere if the district chooses, for whatever reason, not [1:22:40] to. Continue to fund it, I guarantee you it won't [1:22:43] become anything other than what it is. I was just [1:22:47] trying to point out that that's a lot of money. [1:22:49] That's. All, but we'll go to councilor Cooper. Thank you, [1:22:56] chair. Not having used the lock. And from Georgia Bay. [1:23:02] I will say, though, that. Strikes me that it might [1:23:06] be a rather important facility for. The highest paying taxpayers, [1:23:12] your seasonal residents, and I don't think they'd be very [1:23:15] happy. That's just my guess. But I'm sure other counselors [1:23:18] can respond. I think I heard a little bit about [1:23:20] that already. Yes, a lot of money. But you're getting [1:23:25] collecting a lot of money from that group. Thank you. [1:23:29] I agree about the nostalgia. I was just asking. It's [1:23:35] time to ask the question. I personally think, in response [1:23:39] to these comments, that. It would be interesting to know. [1:23:45] What and how many barges do go through and all [1:23:48] those things. I think it's important. To report. When again, [1:23:52] we spend a lot of money on a lot of [1:23:54] things and we talk needs and wants. I did see [1:23:57] Councilor Burry wanted to chime in. Thank you. I have [1:24:01] a little bit of knowledge of the lock, and I'm [1:24:04] the treasurer of the museum, which is the tenant of [1:24:06] the district on the little island that is between the [1:24:09] locks. I'll point out that there are two locks. There's [1:24:13] a big lock. That is maintained by the district and [1:24:17] has human capital. To operate it and a small lock [1:24:21] that can let the boats through, which is completely unattached. [1:24:25] To the big lock. Making an economic sense of the [1:24:29] big lock. Chair Lorenz. I'd point out that the Winona [1:24:34] from the Muska Discovery center comes through the locks several [1:24:38] times a week to go to Rosso and to joe [1:24:41] the peerless. Goes through every day. There'd be a whole [1:24:46] pile of people that would be ecstatic if we close [1:24:49] the lock because then we wouldn't have to wait for [1:24:51] the lift bridge. And when the lift bridge goes up. [1:24:55] The backup. Can be three and 4 km long. During [1:25:00] rush hour. And believe me, the mayor and I can't [1:25:04] count the number of calls we have on that the [1:25:06] bigger concern I think we should have as counselors and [1:25:09] for public works is that the hydraulics that operate the [1:25:13] lift bridge. I'll start with antiquated and go south from [1:25:18] there. They're held together by duct tape and binder twine. [1:25:25] If something goes wrong with those hydraulics, we're in big [1:25:28] trouble. Especially if it's. Stuck in the open position in [1:25:32] rush hour during the summer. And I know that it's [1:25:37] very old equipment and that our staff have done a [1:25:40] remarkable job keeping it together. And for that we're very [1:25:45] appreciative. But lift bridges are problematic. You can lose your [1:25:50] top. There's all kinds of problems associated. So it's not [1:25:54] just the lock. It's the road which is District Road [1:25:59] 118. And a lift bridge. So I'd love to see [1:26:05] the economic piece. I'm all in favor of user pay. [1:26:09] I'm not sure how much my friends. At the Muskoka [1:26:12] Discovery center are going to be interested in having their [1:26:15] fees ratcheted up to pay for it, though, because. We've [1:26:19] decided that there are other things, like overpaying for Fairvern, [1:26:22] that are. Higher priorities for us as a council. And [1:26:26] I'll apologize for my tirade and thank you for hearing [1:26:29] me. Okay, I guess. I wanted to ask, as far [1:26:35] as the safety of the hydraulics of the bridge, I [1:26:37] think. We need to address that, because being held together [1:26:40] with duct tape is. Probably. I would suggest it's probably [1:26:45] not true, so let's clarify that. Thank you, madam Chair. [1:26:54] So absolutely. The equipment at the lift bridge is older. [1:26:56] It's certainly the original vintage of the equipment. And it's [1:26:59] not to say that. It can't be continually operated. It [1:27:03] is certainly something that's on our radar every time there's [1:27:06] a lift to make sure that. We've made sure that [1:27:09] all the maintenance is done appropriately. We had an emergency [1:27:13] purchase. I believe last year to make sure that it [1:27:16] was properly operating without incident. Understand that there's always that [1:27:22] risk on any movable bridge that it could get stuck. [1:27:24] In the open position. And especially significant for Port Carling [1:27:29] because the diversion route is ours. And so I appreciate [1:27:32] that. I think the other important thing that I would [1:27:35] share. So I understand that concern from the community is [1:27:39] through our transportation master plan. We will be looking at [1:27:42] redundancies in the road network. And so things like that, [1:27:46] if there's an incident, what do we do? What's the [1:27:48] appropriate diversion? And so we are thinking about that. Now, [1:27:53] and we'll continue to make the appropriate investments in the [1:27:55] infrastructure so that it can be reliably operated again. Just [1:27:59] like anything, there's always a risk. And so we try [1:28:02] not to do it on Friday afternoons of a long [1:28:04] weekend because that's. When bad things happen. So I would [1:28:08] say with confidence that the team is doing everything needed [1:28:12] to do to make sure that it operates appropriately. Is [1:28:16] there an appropriate investment replacing that entire bridge? I would [1:28:20] say probably not, because we're able to maintain and operate [1:28:23] the equipment appropriately. I believe in director Misco can correct [1:28:27] me. We did a recent upgrade of the electrical system. [1:28:30] In that area. To provide better reliability of the equipment. [1:28:33] We've got new controls. That are going in or have [1:28:38] gone in, and so. There will be investment or continued [1:28:42] investment in infrastructure so that it is reliable. The last [1:28:45] thing we want to do is to send a note [1:28:47] out to say, hey, by the way. We'll probably put [1:28:50] it on municipal 5111 and just pretend like. It didn't [1:28:54] happen. But. The bridge is stuck open and so find [1:28:58] another route, and we certainly don't want to do that. [1:29:02] And definitely don't want to do that. So what I'd [1:29:05] say is there's ongoing investment, and we're making sure that [1:29:07] the bridge functions reliably, and I can almost guarantee there's [1:29:11] no duct tape. Or binder twine in the operation. But. [1:29:17] I get the comment. Chair. Lee min, you add something? [1:29:22] Yeah, just quickly. Madam chair. I think it's a fair [1:29:26] question to ask, and it comes up every year. I [1:29:28] mean, it's a million dollar budget to run the port [1:29:30] carling locks. However. You got to get into the next [1:29:34] level of numbers. Half of that is the reserve contribution [1:29:37] for capital. So that's to fix the problem. Councilor Bury's [1:29:41] problems Councilor Burry. Is rightly talking about maintaining aging infrastructure [1:29:45] that is critically important to the summer operation. Of some [1:29:51] key pieces of the Muskoka tourism economy. The question I [1:29:55] would have. And credit to staff the poor Carling Locke's [1:29:59] operating budget. Is proposed to remain almost flat. So there's [1:30:05] no increase in ballooning cost on the operating side, it [1:30:09] is that capital. Piece. The question I would have is [1:30:12] it shows 100, and I think 27 grand here for [1:30:15] revenue. I'm assuming that's just the big lock. Mr. Misco. [1:30:23] Thank you. Through you, madam chair. That would include the [1:30:24] big lock and small lock passages. Okay, so. That actually [1:30:28] is both. And does the 6000 number include both locks? [1:30:31] I thought I heard that was just the big lock, [1:30:33] correct. That's primarily the large locks. Counting traffic through the [1:30:40] small locks. It's an unstaffed location, so it's paid per [1:30:43] use as you go through, so. We don't have the [1:30:47] best numbers on that side of the locks. Yeah, okay. [1:30:51] I'll leave that alone. Thanks. Madam. Chair. Okay, committee. Okay, [1:30:57] healthy discussion. I guess. Do I have something to read? [1:31:08] Thank you. It is moved by Chair Lehman, second by [1:31:13] Councilor Laquis, that the 2025, 2026 draft tax supported operating [1:31:19] and capital budget and forecast for the engineering and Public [1:31:21] Works Department, dated January 10, 2025, be endorsed and forwarded [1:31:26] to the committee of the whole council for further consideration. [1:31:30] Any more discussion. Okay. Thank you. All in favor? And [1:31:40] that carries. Thank you. So I [1:31:48] see. No motions. Any new business? Committee. [1:32:00] Okay seeing none. It is moved by Councilor La. Quiet. [1:32:05] Second by councilor armor that we do now retire. To [1:32:08] Engineering and Public Works Committee and closed session to discuss [1:32:11] a matter before the Ontario land tribunal. Pursuant to the [1:32:14] following subsections of section two, three, nine, Two of the [1:32:21] Municipal Act 2001, as amended. Litigation or potential litigation, including [1:32:28] matters before administrative tribunals affecting the municipality or local board. [1:32:34] And advice that is subject to solicitor client privilege, including [1:32:37] communications necessary for that purpose. [1:32:50] Okay. Thank you. Welcome back. It is moved by chair [1:32:53] Lehman, second by council roads, that staff be directed to [1:32:57] proceed with the direction provided in the preceding closed session [1:33:00] as outlined in confidential report pw. Twelve 2024 one. [1:33:11] Committee. All in favor? Nycari. Thank you. [1:33:23] And again, thanks. For a great year before we adjourn [1:33:32] this meeting. There's been a lot of work done around [1:33:35] the district of Muskoka, some really good discussions at this [1:33:39] table, and so I thank you for your time and [1:33:42] attention. Thanks to staff. So it is moved by councilor [1:33:46] Cooper, second, by councilor Kelly, that engineering and public Works [1:33:49] committee adjourns to meet again on Wednesday, January. 22nd, 2025, [1:33:55] at 09:00 a.m. Or at the call of the chair. [1:33:59] All in favor?