1 00:00:04,981 --> 00:00:11,280 Services committee for Thursday, September 24th, 2026. We'll call this 2 00:00:11,301 --> 00:00:15,573 meeting to order. Respectfully acknowledge that the Coast Salish nations 3 00:00:15,613 --> 00:00:19,333 on whose traditional territory this meeting takes place. Recording in 4 00:00:19,373 --> 00:00:23,134 progress. I'd also like to welcome Mr. Brettslav, who's our 5 00:00:23,174 --> 00:00:33,034 new general manager of RECs and PERK Services. Welcome. To 6 00:00:33,074 --> 00:00:37,914 Get an approval for the agenda as presented in today's 7 00:00:37,935 --> 00:00:42,154 package. If I get a mover, thank you Director Wallace. 8 00:00:42,154 --> 00:00:49,481 And seconded by Director Salter, any discussion. Seeing none. Motion 9 00:00:49,502 --> 00:00:57,946 to approve. And that's a unanimous. Moving on to item 10 00:00:57,986 --> 00:01:01,306 four, adoption of the minutes, the following minutes be adopted. 11 00:01:01,306 --> 00:01:06,385 Oceanside Services Committee for June 25. 2026. Can I get 12 00:01:06,385 --> 00:01:10,065 a mover? Director Salter, second invite director Wallace. Any discussion. 13 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:18,317 All those in favor. Seeing none opposed, that's carried. Item 14 00:01:18,357 --> 00:01:21,597 number five correspondence that the following correspondence be received for 15 00:01:21,698 --> 00:01:28,621 information. Item 5. 1 from the administrator. Oceanside Minor Hockey 16 00:01:28,621 --> 00:01:33,181 Association, regarding the Oceanside Minor Hockey Association to host the 17 00:01:33,442 --> 00:01:40,701 U13A Female Provincial Championships March 2027. And I believe the 18 00:01:40,722 --> 00:01:46,141 letter for support is now moot because they have been 19 00:01:46,322 --> 00:01:51,426 granted this, if I'm not mistaken. And so we'll just 20 00:01:51,466 --> 00:01:56,345 have a motion to receive, please. Someone make that. Director 21 00:01:56,385 --> 00:02:00,585 McClain and seconded by director Salter. Any discussion on motion 22 00:02:00,585 --> 00:02:04,991 to receive. Seeing none, all those in favor. And that's 23 00:02:05,492 --> 00:02:10,670 proved, seeing none opposed. Item 5. 2, Lighthouse Recreation. Regarding 24 00:02:10,691 --> 00:02:15,950 services report September 2026. And can I get a motion 25 00:02:15,971 --> 00:02:22,953 to receive for information. And Director O'Brien, seconded by Director 26 00:02:22,993 --> 00:02:26,553 Sultan, any discussion on the Lighthouse Recreation Services Report for 27 00:02:26,574 --> 00:02:32,865 September 2026. And seeing none, all those in favor. Seeing 28 00:02:33,046 --> 00:02:37,150 none opposed, that is carried. That's the chair. Yes, go 29 00:02:37,190 --> 00:02:40,350 ahead. Sorry, we skipped over the 5. 1 so quickly. 30 00:02:40,350 --> 00:02:42,270 I just had one question. Sure, yes, please go ahead. 31 00:02:43,811 --> 00:02:46,750 They are formerly requesting access to the pond in those 32 00:02:46,790 --> 00:02:49,390 four days. Is that something we would need to motion 33 00:02:49,390 --> 00:02:52,830 for? Or is that something? Sure, question through to staff, 34 00:02:52,830 --> 00:02:56,630 I guess. I'm not sure who B isn't Jenifer, I 35 00:02:56,630 --> 00:02:59,695 believe. Is it? Go ahead. Yes, they have put in 36 00:02:59,695 --> 00:03:01,695 the request for the facilities they need, and we're able 37 00:03:01,695 --> 00:03:09,250 to meet that request. Thank you. Okay, next on the 38 00:03:09,351 --> 00:03:12,930 agenda is item 6. 1, which is Oceanside Recreation Services 39 00:03:13,191 --> 00:03:18,370 Quarterly Update. And that's for Q2, April to June, 2026, 40 00:03:18,370 --> 00:03:20,850 and I'll hand it over to staff for verbal update 41 00:03:20,871 --> 00:03:30,260 to a company, What's in the Agenda. Thank 42 00:03:30,260 --> 00:03:32,980 you. The data in the second quarter continues with the 43 00:03:32,980 --> 00:03:37,220 same trend of demonstrating strong community demand for recreation services. 44 00:03:37,220 --> 00:03:39,700 Adult and senior participation remained a key driver in all 45 00:03:39,700 --> 00:03:44,171 areas, which is not surprising giving our local demographic. While 46 00:03:44,211 --> 00:03:47,611 some of the program participation shifted to outdoor and drop 47 00:03:47,611 --> 00:03:50,571 - in opportunities, the data highlights the success of ongoing 48 00:03:50,592 --> 00:03:54,331 adaptation of the delivery model and collaborative planning with our 49 00:03:54,371 --> 00:03:58,955 community partners to offer diverse opportunities throughout the district. Aquatics 50 00:03:59,056 --> 00:04:01,995 has experienced an increased demand for swim lessons, particularly in 51 00:04:02,176 --> 00:04:05,995 this preschool programs leading to additional classes and higher pool 52 00:04:06,016 --> 00:04:09,324 admissions. IRINA Operations saw growth in the drop - in 53 00:04:09,324 --> 00:04:13,764 hockey program, public skating and facility rentals with revenue continuing 54 00:04:13,764 --> 00:04:17,950 to benefit from the strong year - round ISOMAD. In 55 00:04:17,971 --> 00:04:21,390 addition to the delivery of programs coordinating equitable access to 56 00:04:21,430 --> 00:04:25,470 the facilities as AIA component of the recreation service to 57 00:04:25,470 --> 00:04:28,350 improve access and transparency staff have launched real - time 58 00:04:28,611 --> 00:04:33,150 online booking calendars for local fields, courts and braven song 59 00:04:33,150 --> 00:04:37,550 aquatic center, receiving very positive feedback from users. With schedules 60 00:04:37,550 --> 00:04:40,750 and booking now available to view online, residents and users 61 00:04:40,790 --> 00:04:42,750 can see when facilities are available and how they can 62 00:04:42,790 --> 00:04:48,143 use these public assets. Overall, the quarter to demonstrate a 63 00:04:48,143 --> 00:04:52,063 strong participation, responsive service delivery, and continued investment in accessible 64 00:04:52,164 --> 00:04:55,343 and sustainable recreation across the district. And if you have 65 00:04:55,343 --> 00:04:57,743 any questions about this report, I'm happy to provide some 66 00:04:57,764 --> 00:05:02,494 clarification. Thank you so much, opening the floor to any 67 00:05:02,675 --> 00:05:10,621 questions for staff regarding the report. Oh, director Wallace, please 68 00:05:10,621 --> 00:05:13,341 go ahead. Thank you. I know I rarely ask questions. 69 00:05:13,341 --> 00:05:16,393 It's confusing. Uh, thank you for the report. I have 70 00:05:16,393 --> 00:05:20,393 a comment and then I question. So under financial implications, 71 00:05:20,433 --> 00:05:23,993 I believe this report and all of the attachments they're 72 00:05:24,033 --> 00:05:27,993 in are referencing the three northern recreation services. So that's 73 00:05:27,993 --> 00:05:31,883 Oceanside Place, Raven Song Pool, and then District. Or Northern 74 00:05:31,883 --> 00:05:35,163 Recreation is the name of the service. The financial implications 75 00:05:35,504 --> 00:05:40,103 include the information that it's within the financial plan, but 76 00:05:40,103 --> 00:05:42,123 moving forward, and I don't know if we need a 77 00:05:42,123 --> 00:05:44,523 motion or not, but I think a breakdown of the 78 00:05:44,544 --> 00:05:51,243 financial implications by contributing areas. So areas EF, GH, Parksville, 79 00:05:51,243 --> 00:05:55,403 and Qualicon Beach, um, showing what the actual implications are. 80 00:05:55,403 --> 00:05:57,883 And so I'm envisioning a table from left to right 81 00:05:57,923 --> 00:06:02,203 across the top or the areas down the left - 82 00:06:02,203 --> 00:06:05,083 hand side or the three services. And what the projected 83 00:06:05,184 --> 00:06:08,603 financial implications are, because it's very difficult for people to 84 00:06:08,784 --> 00:06:12,443 navigate the financial plan process. And although this suggests that 85 00:06:12,704 --> 00:06:15,723 whatever was adopted as part of the five - year 86 00:06:15,723 --> 00:06:19,003 financial plan for 26 to 2030, it does not indicate 87 00:06:19,664 --> 00:06:23,883 what the proposed increases may be for 2027. And I 88 00:06:23,883 --> 00:06:27,643 think that these reports provide an opportunity, especially this particular 89 00:06:27,984 --> 00:06:33,003 report, because it's setting up for just prior to the 90 00:06:33,043 --> 00:06:36,203 financial plan process. Um, this is an opportunity for us 91 00:06:36,224 --> 00:06:40,283 to get some more transparency out to people so they 92 00:06:40,283 --> 00:06:43,563 have further understanding of the services that are shared upon 93 00:06:43,904 --> 00:06:47,803 District 69. And so, um, whether I need a motion 94 00:06:47,824 --> 00:06:52,043 to change a report format or not, I'm not sure. 95 00:06:52,043 --> 00:06:54,123 Um, we also, you know, hear this at the board 96 00:06:54,123 --> 00:06:57,483 from time to time, about from financial implication report information 97 00:06:57,664 --> 00:07:02,283 being a little more comprehensive. Um, but insofar as the 98 00:07:02,323 --> 00:07:09,003 reports that we've received, I was curious about the facility 99 00:07:09,184 --> 00:07:15,083 usage hours for Oceanside Place Arena. So that's attachment one. 100 00:07:15,083 --> 00:07:17,563 And I probably asked this last time. So what it 101 00:07:17,563 --> 00:07:20,843 shows is the usage hours are down five percent. It 102 00:07:20,843 --> 00:07:24,923 shows the capacity line in the dark green and then 103 00:07:24,923 --> 00:07:27,643 the hours used. So we're close to the capacity line 104 00:07:27,664 --> 00:07:31,563 of those three segments of service hours. But what I'm 105 00:07:31,584 --> 00:07:37,723 not clear about is the overall combination of facility usage 106 00:07:37,824 --> 00:07:40,643 hours and the capacity that we're using to that. So 107 00:07:40,704 --> 00:07:45,243 are we 80 percent? Is it an iterative process whereby 108 00:07:45,243 --> 00:07:47,563 when we hit 85 percent usage, we need to look 109 00:07:47,563 --> 00:07:50,283 at more staff in order to open up other hours. 110 00:07:50,283 --> 00:07:54,923 So it's not explicit at what capacity the facility is 111 00:07:54,963 --> 00:08:00,683 running at. So I'm wondering if you could clarify the 112 00:08:00,683 --> 00:08:04,443 actual chart for facility usage hours. It's showing down five 113 00:08:04,483 --> 00:08:08,283 percent, but what could be the factors to contribute to 114 00:08:08,323 --> 00:08:11,083 that reduction in usage hours, please. Thank you. 115 00:08:19,234 --> 00:08:23,582 Thank you for the question through the chair. The specific 116 00:08:23,622 --> 00:08:28,302 reduction for five percent actually is primarily almost entirely due 117 00:08:28,342 --> 00:08:32,782 to the loss of the afterschool program on the pond, 118 00:08:32,782 --> 00:08:35,902 um, with the increase of afterschool services being offered in 119 00:08:35,923 --> 00:08:39,742 the schools after school at primarily at Oceanside Elementary School, 120 00:08:39,742 --> 00:08:42,542 which was the primary driver of the participants of the 121 00:08:42,723 --> 00:08:45,902 afterschool program on the pond. Um, there's now service at 122 00:08:45,902 --> 00:08:48,822 the school. So that program was no longer needed. So 123 00:08:48,963 --> 00:08:52,342 the five percent specifically is exactly that program. It's no 124 00:08:52,342 --> 00:08:55,882 longer being offered. That's also the direct result in the 125 00:08:55,882 --> 00:08:59,262 loss of all the children's programming during that time period, 126 00:08:59,262 --> 00:09:02,382 if you notice on the other graph there, there's a 127 00:09:02,483 --> 00:09:05,982 shows zero programming for children during this quarter, which was 128 00:09:06,022 --> 00:09:12,529 that specific program. In regards to capacity, we have discussed 129 00:09:12,550 --> 00:09:15,649 this before and I totally, I appreciate the question again 130 00:09:15,750 --> 00:09:19,809 today to make sure we're clear right now, the capacity 131 00:09:19,849 --> 00:09:22,689 for the arena is measured in a 24 hour period. 132 00:09:23,488 --> 00:09:28,587 But it's not used overnight. So it is very heavily 133 00:09:28,688 --> 00:09:32,267 used and we're seeing capacity over the 90 percent range 134 00:09:33,168 --> 00:09:35,947 in those three to seven or nine PM times during 135 00:09:35,987 --> 00:09:39,367 the week. And then also heavily on the weekend. But 136 00:09:39,367 --> 00:09:41,787 of course over after 10 p. m. at night, it's 137 00:09:41,968 --> 00:09:45,547 not very frequently used. And during the day, we see 138 00:09:45,808 --> 00:09:49,947 moderate use, um, of the facility. So looking at 2027, 139 00:09:49,947 --> 00:09:55,867 we're hoping to bring, uh, more detailed reports with new 140 00:09:56,048 --> 00:09:59,067 timelines for prime and non prime. And so then you'll 141 00:09:59,088 --> 00:10:03,867 see quite clearly over 70 percent usage during prime times 142 00:10:04,528 --> 00:10:07,147 and under 70 percent usage during non - prime times. 143 00:10:08,825 --> 00:10:12,064 Your question. Thank you. Yeah. That was very thorough. And 144 00:10:12,064 --> 00:10:14,164 just my only follow - up question then is, is 145 00:10:14,204 --> 00:10:18,564 the already in recreation program funding the, uh, the afterschool 146 00:10:18,604 --> 00:10:21,684 program at, at the school, or is that through the 147 00:10:21,724 --> 00:10:25,308 school district. No, the RDN is not funding that program. 148 00:10:25,308 --> 00:10:29,856 It is through the ministry of education. Thank you very 149 00:10:29,856 --> 00:10:33,525 much. Thank you, Director Wallace. Any other questions for staff. 150 00:10:36,870 --> 00:10:40,069 McLean. Uh, well, I think director Wallace had two questions 151 00:10:40,090 --> 00:10:44,309 there. Oh, okay. But, uh, sometimes she asked them together. 152 00:10:44,309 --> 00:10:46,709 The first one was the reporting format for the financial 153 00:10:48,810 --> 00:10:52,229 implications section. And if we need a motion to change 154 00:10:52,250 --> 00:10:55,909 that or if that's something that staff will take away, 155 00:10:55,909 --> 00:11:00,482 come back. With what she did. Oh, I apologize. Uh, 156 00:11:00,583 --> 00:11:04,002 well, I do have a motion arising on the report. 157 00:11:04,002 --> 00:11:08,622 Uh, well, let's wait until number seven. I thought, uh, 158 00:11:08,663 --> 00:11:11,809 any other questions for staff before we move on. And 159 00:11:11,830 --> 00:11:15,329 seeing none, can I get a motion to receive her 160 00:11:15,430 --> 00:11:20,738 report. Move my director, salter, seconded by director Wallace, any 161 00:11:20,738 --> 00:11:24,906 discussion. Seeing none, kind of get, uh, all those in 162 00:11:24,946 --> 00:11:31,508 favor. And seeing none opposed that motion carries now. Director 163 00:11:31,529 --> 00:11:33,908 McLean was very excited to get to number seven. Business 164 00:11:34,009 --> 00:11:36,308 and rising from delegations and correspondence. And since I have 165 00:11:36,569 --> 00:11:40,368 two motions, I believe from directors on today's agenda, uh, 166 00:11:40,649 --> 00:11:44,704 we'll start with director McLean's. Please go ahead. Thank you, 167 00:11:44,725 --> 00:11:47,744 Chair. Uh, this is a rising out of the Q2 168 00:11:47,784 --> 00:11:51,004 report. So I might reference back to that, but, uh, 169 00:11:51,004 --> 00:11:53,984 my motion is that the next review of RADIAN Recreation 170 00:11:54,325 --> 00:11:57,984 Facility Admission rates include a report on the options and 171 00:11:58,024 --> 00:12:02,224 financial implications of implementing a small admission fee for the 172 00:12:02,245 --> 00:12:05,946 golden age category. And if the second arrow, I'll speak 173 00:12:05,946 --> 00:12:11,562 to. Him by Director O'Brien. Go ahead. Thank you, Chair. 174 00:12:11,562 --> 00:12:15,082 Uh, so this is rising out of specifically the Raven 175 00:12:15,183 --> 00:12:20,122 song facility and the fact that revenues are down, even 176 00:12:20,122 --> 00:12:24,042 though usage is up and stuffed it identify part of 177 00:12:24,042 --> 00:12:27,402 that is, uh, the golden age category continues to grow 178 00:12:28,623 --> 00:12:31,162 as we look at the demographics of our region that 179 00:12:31,202 --> 00:12:34,162 probably will continue to grow. And currently there's no fee 180 00:12:34,202 --> 00:12:38,567 at all. Which is fine. Um, but when we do 181 00:12:38,607 --> 00:12:41,687 the review, I would like to see what would be 182 00:12:41,687 --> 00:12:45,761 the implications of adding a small fees. Like a dollar, 183 00:12:45,761 --> 00:12:48,801 two dollars, whatever, a nominal fee and what that would 184 00:12:48,801 --> 00:12:52,961 do to the revenue, uh, for that facility. And all 185 00:12:53,001 --> 00:12:55,361 of a facility is. So that's why I'm making the 186 00:12:55,361 --> 00:13:00,602 motion. Sure. Thank you, Director McClain. And any discussion, please 187 00:13:00,602 --> 00:13:03,322 director Wallace. Go ahead. Yeah. Thank you. I, um, happy 188 00:13:03,362 --> 00:13:06,202 to support the motion. I think, uh, certainly this comes 189 00:13:06,242 --> 00:13:09,242 up. I think it comes up for the arena as 190 00:13:09,242 --> 00:13:13,562 well, but when would be the next review, um, that's 191 00:13:13,602 --> 00:13:19,868 the first question I have about the motion thing. Thank 192 00:13:19,868 --> 00:13:23,468 you for the question. Uh, the review is currently underway 193 00:13:23,508 --> 00:13:26,988 at this time. Um, with the anticipation to be bringing 194 00:13:27,009 --> 00:13:30,588 it to the committee in 2027, the bylaw for the 195 00:13:30,628 --> 00:13:33,148 fees and charges does expire in 2027. So this is 196 00:13:33,148 --> 00:13:41,862 very timely. Follow up. Excellent. Uh, any other questions or 197 00:13:41,862 --> 00:13:48,203 discussion on the motion. Uh, my current feelings are, you 198 00:13:48,203 --> 00:13:49,983 know, of course it's nice to give a break to 199 00:13:50,023 --> 00:13:52,143 a certain age category, but you might have single moms 200 00:13:52,183 --> 00:13:54,943 with kids, et cetera. I want to revenue is down. 201 00:13:54,943 --> 00:13:57,663 Um, ideally we could have, you know, some sort of, 202 00:13:57,663 --> 00:14:00,463 uh, means tested for admission, but I don't think we're 203 00:14:00,463 --> 00:14:02,863 going to get there. And so, uh, I would welcome 204 00:14:02,964 --> 00:14:07,903 a report on the Golden Age category. Seeing the motion 205 00:14:07,943 --> 00:14:10,623 is on the floor and we don't have any other 206 00:14:11,204 --> 00:14:13,543 directors who want to speak to it. Can I see 207 00:14:13,564 --> 00:14:17,171 a hands for all those in favor. And seeing none 208 00:14:17,171 --> 00:14:20,176 opposed that motion passes. Oh, did I see a question? 209 00:14:20,216 --> 00:14:24,416 Okay. Uh, and then I believe director Wallace, did you 210 00:14:24,416 --> 00:14:27,296 have a motion rising from delegations and correspondence as well? 211 00:14:29,531 --> 00:14:32,630 Thank you. So I've provided as much notice as possible 212 00:14:32,971 --> 00:14:35,270 and emailed the committee prior to the meeting just prior. 213 00:14:35,270 --> 00:14:39,350 I will admit. And, um, my motion is that staff 214 00:14:39,451 --> 00:14:43,730 provide a report to the board regarding noise concerns. Let 215 00:14:43,730 --> 00:14:48,833 me get the right one here. My apologies. I'll start 216 00:14:48,833 --> 00:14:51,313 again that staff provide a report to the board regarding 217 00:14:51,574 --> 00:14:55,553 noise concerns from residents located adjacent to Oceanside Place Arena 218 00:14:55,734 --> 00:14:58,973 and potential mitigation options. And if the seconder I can 219 00:14:58,973 --> 00:15:03,014 speak to that. Yes. Thank you. You're, uh, Director Brian 220 00:15:03,115 --> 00:15:04,854 Seconds. Please go ahead and speak. Yeah. Thank you. So 221 00:15:04,875 --> 00:15:07,734 I do, um, I have received a number of complaints 222 00:15:07,774 --> 00:15:13,474 from, um, the area, uh, surrounding Oceanside Place Arena. And 223 00:15:13,474 --> 00:15:15,814 I know that staff is engaged with those residents to 224 00:15:15,854 --> 00:15:18,534 this point. But I think sooner or later there will 225 00:15:18,534 --> 00:15:20,294 be information coming to the board. And I just wanted 226 00:15:20,315 --> 00:15:24,374 to represent those residents concerns by bringing that motion today 227 00:15:24,715 --> 00:15:28,294 so that it is, I'll say, uh, on the list 228 00:15:28,294 --> 00:15:32,672 of things that are, um, the priorities. Thank you. Any 229 00:15:32,693 --> 00:15:36,116 other discussion, the motion on the table. Director, Brian, please 230 00:15:36,116 --> 00:15:40,690 go ahead. Thank you, Chair. And, uh, through to, uh, 231 00:15:40,971 --> 00:15:44,630 director Wallace, could you beat a little more specific if 232 00:15:44,630 --> 00:15:47,490 you would, uh, director Wallace anyways and what those, uh, 233 00:15:48,251 --> 00:15:51,730 noise complaints, aren't they? Noise complaints that could be, uh, 234 00:15:52,971 --> 00:15:57,670 mediated or remediated by, um, uh, parksville bylaw team, because 235 00:15:57,670 --> 00:15:59,910 we do have noise bylaws in place. If you could 236 00:15:59,950 --> 00:16:03,830 be a little more specific on what the complaints are, 237 00:16:04,011 --> 00:16:07,510 I'd be happy to hear that. I'm guessing it's an 238 00:16:07,691 --> 00:16:11,270 HVAC machinery that's been recently added, but, uh, I'll pass 239 00:16:11,270 --> 00:16:13,590 over to direct Wallace. Yes. There were some changes made 240 00:16:13,611 --> 00:16:17,190 to equipment at the facility. And that's when the complaints 241 00:16:17,230 --> 00:16:22,145 started to arrive. So it's a mechanical. And it's interesting 242 00:16:22,166 --> 00:16:25,265 that you bring up the, it's literally on the boundary 243 00:16:25,265 --> 00:16:28,465 of Parksville in area G. And so there may be 244 00:16:28,806 --> 00:16:30,625 a lot, maybe a bylaw in the city of Parksville 245 00:16:30,625 --> 00:16:34,945 that I'm unaware of. And, um, uh, but it's a, 246 00:16:34,985 --> 00:16:37,425 I don't think that's relevant. I it's my understanding that 247 00:16:37,465 --> 00:16:41,185 some of the noise concerns are being explored for mitigation 248 00:16:41,686 --> 00:16:44,785 and that, um, it is possible. And so it is, 249 00:16:44,785 --> 00:16:47,345 it is happening, but this motion is to represent those 250 00:16:47,446 --> 00:16:52,965 residents who have brought those complaints forward. Thank you. Sure. 251 00:16:53,005 --> 00:16:55,605 Follow up director Byron. Please go ahead. Thank you, Chair. 252 00:16:55,645 --> 00:16:59,045 So as I understand it, um, mitigation could be solved 253 00:16:59,045 --> 00:17:04,565 by, um, construction related and not by law enforcement to 254 00:17:04,586 --> 00:17:08,405 tell those machines to be less noisy. So okay. So, 255 00:17:08,405 --> 00:17:10,765 uh, we are looking at ways of doing that. I 256 00:17:10,765 --> 00:17:14,005 understand staff is looking at that as well. Okay. That's 257 00:17:14,666 --> 00:17:16,565 okay. I just want to make sure if I have 258 00:17:16,565 --> 00:17:19,365 to take any direction from my position here to help, 259 00:17:19,365 --> 00:17:21,765 uh, ease the situation. It sounds like it's under control. 260 00:17:21,765 --> 00:17:24,700 Thank you. I'm not an engineer, but I'm guessing it'd 261 00:17:24,700 --> 00:17:27,260 be some sort of soundproof, uh, kind of wall that 262 00:17:27,260 --> 00:17:29,740 goes around 360, but still lets it vent out the 263 00:17:29,740 --> 00:17:32,780 top, but they have much smarter people than me that'll 264 00:17:32,801 --> 00:17:36,620 be handling that, uh, any other discussion on the motion 265 00:17:36,641 --> 00:17:42,789 for the noisy machinery on the roof. And seeing none, 266 00:17:42,789 --> 00:17:46,460 all those in favor. And seeing none opposed that motion 267 00:17:46,481 --> 00:17:54,336 passes. Uh, and, uh, I believe this is, uh. This 268 00:17:54,357 --> 00:17:58,336 is going to be, uh, director Rogers last Oceanside Services 269 00:17:58,357 --> 00:17:59,676 Committee meeting. So we're not going to have a big 270 00:17:59,797 --> 00:18:01,936 roast. I ask you if you did want a roast 271 00:18:01,957 --> 00:18:04,576 and you said, yes, you enjoy roasts. And that's not 272 00:18:04,677 --> 00:18:07,616 exactly, didn't sound like what I was going to mean. 273 00:18:07,616 --> 00:18:10,656 Uh, but I think, uh, you know, I'm relatively new 274 00:18:10,696 --> 00:18:13,196 here, of course, but I think we all appreciate, uh, 275 00:18:13,397 --> 00:18:16,176 your service to the Oceanside, uh, services committee over the 276 00:18:16,176 --> 00:18:19,988 years, Bob, uh, thank you very much. And if any 277 00:18:19,988 --> 00:18:22,148 other directors want to speak to it, definitely please go 278 00:18:22,188 --> 00:18:24,895 ahead. I'm sure we'll have a bigger one at the 279 00:18:24,895 --> 00:18:26,975 board because I think we still have one more meeting, 280 00:18:26,975 --> 00:18:28,575 but director Wall, let's go ahead. I will take this 281 00:18:28,596 --> 00:18:31,695 opportunity. Thank you. So I do want to commend director 282 00:18:31,695 --> 00:18:33,695 Rogers for the work that you've done in the news. 283 00:18:33,695 --> 00:18:35,935 And I think that I recall the day when we 284 00:18:35,935 --> 00:18:38,495 had a boardroom full of people with a very large 285 00:18:38,596 --> 00:18:43,335 petition for pickleball courts at Jack Bagley Park and to 286 00:18:43,335 --> 00:18:46,175 see that facility come to fruition and all of the 287 00:18:46,196 --> 00:18:49,215 work over many, many years that you put in to 288 00:18:49,236 --> 00:18:52,895 see that facility in partnership with this society that manages 289 00:18:52,916 --> 00:18:56,135 the hall in collaboration with the school district. I think 290 00:18:56,135 --> 00:18:59,855 it's a prime example of how electoral area directors can 291 00:18:59,895 --> 00:19:02,895 make a significant recreational difference in their areas. And I 292 00:19:02,895 --> 00:19:05,735 think you should be absolutely commended for that work. So 293 00:19:05,735 --> 00:19:11,193 thank you. Thank you, Director Wallace and director McLean. Did 294 00:19:11,193 --> 00:19:14,708 I see your hand go up? No. Okay. Uh, well, 295 00:19:14,708 --> 00:19:17,268 thank you that, uh, leaves nothing, but, uh, any new 296 00:19:17,289 --> 00:19:20,228 business besides those motions that we dealt with. I'm not 297 00:19:20,228 --> 00:19:22,628 aware of any director Wall. Let's go ahead. Um, just 298 00:19:22,668 --> 00:19:24,868 a question through the staff at this point whether there 299 00:19:24,889 --> 00:19:30,768 is opportunity to work together on financial implication reports, uh, 300 00:19:31,049 --> 00:19:33,748 in particular, regarding the three services that all the different 301 00:19:33,769 --> 00:19:37,748 areas and district 69 share. I'm not sure does staff 302 00:19:37,769 --> 00:19:41,588 require motion for that for a different, um, presentation of 303 00:19:41,588 --> 00:19:44,628 the financial information. And if so, I'd be happy to 304 00:19:44,628 --> 00:19:49,975 make one. Thank you. Well, I think that the, um, 305 00:19:50,336 --> 00:19:51,495 I guess I would like to hear a little bit 306 00:19:51,495 --> 00:19:54,635 more about, um, I'm sorry I had to pop out 307 00:19:54,675 --> 00:19:59,035 for a rather urgent personal call. And so I didn't 308 00:19:59,136 --> 00:20:03,999 hear the entirety of what was said. I guess I 309 00:20:04,020 --> 00:20:07,919 want to, uh, we, we will create whatever reports the 310 00:20:07,959 --> 00:20:12,699 board asks for without, without a doubt. Um, the, uh, 311 00:20:13,780 --> 00:20:18,399 we, we want to make sure that the reports have 312 00:20:18,660 --> 00:20:23,759 enough information to serve the purpose of the report at 313 00:20:23,759 --> 00:20:25,839 the same time. We've heard many, many times over and 314 00:20:25,879 --> 00:20:28,399 over again about the length of agendas. And we're trying 315 00:20:28,399 --> 00:20:32,159 to keep as succinct as possible so that the report 316 00:20:32,199 --> 00:20:35,359 serves as particular purpose was enough information to put the 317 00:20:35,380 --> 00:20:38,959 board into decision making position and nothing additional to that 318 00:20:39,540 --> 00:20:42,799 so that we have that, uh, as much succinctness as 319 00:20:42,839 --> 00:20:46,559 we can attain. So, um, I think the, the answer 320 00:20:46,580 --> 00:20:52,879 is standing offer to engage in whatever the board thinks 321 00:20:52,900 --> 00:20:56,477 it's useful. At the board meeting, at its committee meetings, 322 00:20:56,477 --> 00:20:59,677 um, happy to, happy to work on whatever would be, 323 00:20:59,677 --> 00:21:01,677 uh, make those reports better and more useful for the 324 00:21:01,677 --> 00:21:06,157 decision makers. Yep. Thank you. And just to clarify what 325 00:21:06,157 --> 00:21:09,997 I had suggested comes from certainly me hearing from residents 326 00:21:10,098 --> 00:21:13,117 about the difficulty they have and navigating the complexity of 327 00:21:13,157 --> 00:21:16,157 the service delivery models and Oceanside. And so for example 328 00:21:16,818 --> 00:21:21,277 this report actually touches on, you know, pages 210, 212, 329 00:21:21,298 --> 00:21:25,257 213, 215, 216 and 217 in the financial plan. And 330 00:21:25,298 --> 00:21:27,997 unless you know where those actual pages are, what the 331 00:21:27,997 --> 00:21:30,317 services are called and then who pays what into what 332 00:21:30,357 --> 00:21:33,997 services. The statement that we are currently receiving in the 333 00:21:34,258 --> 00:21:37,757 report where it states the 2026 to 2030 financial plan 334 00:21:37,938 --> 00:21:41,197 includes the budget for the work outlined. Although that is 335 00:21:41,197 --> 00:21:45,197 an entirely true statement, it is also subject to change. 336 00:21:45,197 --> 00:21:49,577 And furthermore, it's divided between electoral areas and municipalities. And 337 00:21:49,577 --> 00:21:52,537 so I think what I had talked about was, um, 338 00:21:52,738 --> 00:21:57,917 a chart. So a standard process in financial implications for 339 00:21:57,938 --> 00:22:02,797 services where municipalities and electoral areas are jointly funding areas 340 00:22:02,898 --> 00:22:06,397 EFGH parksville and the town of call can beach and 341 00:22:06,397 --> 00:22:10,377 what the contributions are, um, captured in a chart. And 342 00:22:10,377 --> 00:22:13,037 so that chart doesn't have to change with every report 343 00:22:13,218 --> 00:22:17,837 requires a lot of business analysis. It's literally helping residents 344 00:22:17,877 --> 00:22:21,117 navigate. What are the services called? How does this fit 345 00:22:21,218 --> 00:22:24,637 into the financial plan? Where can they find the information? 346 00:22:24,637 --> 00:22:27,357 And then they are able to determine what are the 347 00:22:27,458 --> 00:22:31,597 increases or not, uh, for the financial plan over that 348 00:22:31,637 --> 00:22:35,037 period. And I think that that just, it saves certainly 349 00:22:35,077 --> 00:22:37,197 saves directors a ton of time because that is literally 350 00:22:37,298 --> 00:22:39,997 the process I walk through with people when they have 351 00:22:40,098 --> 00:22:42,157 questions about it. Well, if they don't know the name 352 00:22:42,197 --> 00:22:44,237 of the service and what we're talking about on a 353 00:22:44,277 --> 00:22:48,217 report that's page 52 of the financial plan, that's not 354 00:22:48,217 --> 00:22:52,377 helpful. And so I'm suggesting that the financial implications, um, 355 00:22:53,298 --> 00:22:56,797 be standardized and that they be referenced to the financial 356 00:22:56,818 --> 00:23:00,077 plan so that when we receive a report that it 357 00:23:00,578 --> 00:23:04,957 can help residents clearly navigate that larger and more complex 358 00:23:05,058 --> 00:23:10,717 financial plan systems. So they, they know that in 2026 359 00:23:10,757 --> 00:23:14,397 to 2030 that we have a bylaw that's funding these 360 00:23:14,397 --> 00:23:17,997 services and these would be the projected costs. And here's 361 00:23:18,037 --> 00:23:21,597 how it relates to each of the partners who participate 362 00:23:21,597 --> 00:23:24,077 in the service. And I, I think that's not like 363 00:23:24,098 --> 00:23:26,797 that's a good summary of information. It's not entirely overly 364 00:23:26,837 --> 00:23:29,837 detailed, but it certainly helps people understand if they live 365 00:23:29,837 --> 00:23:33,517 in the city of Parksville, what they're contributing to and 366 00:23:33,698 --> 00:23:36,717 attaches it to that transparency that we're all struggling with 367 00:23:36,978 --> 00:23:39,797 because of the breadth of services that are delivered. So 368 00:23:39,797 --> 00:23:43,597 that was a lengthy description of the conversation we'd had 369 00:23:43,597 --> 00:23:47,677 earlier, but I'm hearing it's too, it's too difficult actually 370 00:23:47,717 --> 00:23:50,397 for me to word emotion that captures that, but certainly 371 00:23:50,437 --> 00:23:53,117 the objectives I think have been stated. So if that's 372 00:23:53,117 --> 00:23:56,342 enough information for stock, we could leave it there. It 373 00:23:56,342 --> 00:23:58,982 is what I would say is two things. So that's 374 00:23:59,083 --> 00:24:02,662 totally achievable, of course. Absolutely. Um, and so I'll take 375 00:24:02,662 --> 00:24:05,622 that back with our CFO and, uh, leadership team and 376 00:24:05,622 --> 00:24:11,622 talk about, uh, talk about, uh, inserting that into, into 377 00:24:11,643 --> 00:24:15,382 various memos. There's certainly we have that table go in 378 00:24:15,382 --> 00:24:19,542 from time to time when we're contemplating a change of 379 00:24:19,643 --> 00:24:24,662 some sort. Um, uh, I just wanted to remind the 380 00:24:24,702 --> 00:24:27,302 committee as well that we will be changing the way 381 00:24:27,342 --> 00:24:31,622 we present the financial plan to concentrate more on the 382 00:24:31,662 --> 00:24:34,742 individual services as opposed to the amalgamation just because the 383 00:24:34,742 --> 00:24:37,542 amalgation is of, of, of all of the services together 384 00:24:37,963 --> 00:24:40,422 really isn't a helpful or useful number. It's not managed 385 00:24:40,683 --> 00:24:44,102 and governed at that level. And, um, so, um, so 386 00:24:44,123 --> 00:24:46,342 no, thank you very much. I think that's, that's totally 387 00:24:46,363 --> 00:24:51,572 adequate. That's all the information we need. Uh, thank you. 388 00:24:51,612 --> 00:24:54,372 I'm guessing that the page numbers to the financial plan, 389 00:24:54,372 --> 00:24:56,692 it's easier to reference kind of a living, changing document 390 00:24:57,273 --> 00:25:00,132 than to grab, grab a chart, uh, and put it 391 00:25:00,153 --> 00:25:03,092 in static when those numbers could change. But, uh, it 392 00:25:03,092 --> 00:25:05,092 sounds like stuff are going to be on top of 393 00:25:05,092 --> 00:25:07,492 it. Okay. With all of that said, can I get 394 00:25:07,532 --> 00:25:12,414 a motion to adjourn. Director O'Brien and seconded by director 395 00:25:12,414 --> 00:25:16,804 Wallace, all those in favor. Seeing none opposed or adjourned. 396 00:25:16,804 --> 00:25:17,044 Thank you, everybody.