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All right. Well, uh this is a call to
order of the sign advisory board

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or sign advisory council uh September
1st, 2026.

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Um
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Members present.
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Paul Wolf.
>> Yeah.

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» Mark Cutone.
>> Here.

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» And myself, Ben Norman, is here.
Um just to let everybody know this

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meeting is being
audio recorded. Um so um be aware.

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Can I get a motion to adopt the agenda?
>> So moved.

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» So I'll also um
Paul, did you second that?

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» Yes.
>> All right. Mark, on your on your motion.

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» Uh yes, I.
>> Paul.

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» Yes.
>> And I myself

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um also mention um Kathy Flynn is here
as staff.

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» Present.
>> um

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There is no minutes to approve, so we
have nothing to do there.

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Uh public comment, if anybody's here
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for a comment public comment that's not
already on our agenda. It doesn't seem

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like anybody's here, so that's
>> No.

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» fine.
Um commissioner comments.

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Any commissioner have anything
they want to talk about?

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All right. And I guess with that we can
move to our uh sign.

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So McKenzie, would you like to give us a
run down of what you're proposing?

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» Yes, absolutely. Thank you, Mr. Norman.
Um I'm McKenzie Thompson representing

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the Nantucket Lighthouse School um for
this sign proposed sign. Um we are

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looking to do a

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53 by 8-in um
horizontal sign, which would essentially

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be replacing the existing sign.
Um this MAST sign shown on the screen.

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Ours would be slightly longer, but
slightly um less wide

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to make up for the amount of words that
we have there. Um the Nantucket

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Lighthouse School is what would we would
be displaying on the sign.

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Um we would be looking to do
use the kind of historic Nantucket

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Collection paint samples from Marine to
do this. So, with white as a background

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and then that Newport blue as the um
lettering as well as the edge banding.

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Um we don't plan to copy the scalloping
that's on the existing sign.

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Those like scalloped edges, we plan to
just do a very straightforward

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rectangle. Um we've got a few quotes
from on island as well as off island um

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with
that we're hoping to move forward with

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as soon as we can once we kind of
potentially get approval here. I do just

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also want to mention this um
fence that it's on is under 5 ft. I know

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that there's like regulations around the
size based on the the height of the

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fence and I did just want to reiterate
that that's under 5 ft.

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Um happy to provide any more information
if you have any questions.

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» Great. So, we'll go around the uh the
board here. Mark, do you want to have

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any comments on this?
>> Uh I don't think I have any concerns.

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Thank you.
>> Paul, how about you?

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» Uh just a clarification. Is this
replacing the sign that says MAST?

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» It is. Yes. So, this uh building will no
longer be operated um by MAST. It will

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well, the entire campus itself is um
planning to be taken over by the

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lighthouse school.
>> school moving or

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what's why is this sign being put here?
>> Expanding. This is planning to be a

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middle school campus for it the school.
>> I'm sorry I didn't understand what you

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said. The middle
The lighthouse school is on rugged road,

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right?
>> That's correct. The lighthouse school

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main campus will remain. We are we're
expanding to a middle school campus at

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this property.
>> Is that why the construction's going on?

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» That's why the construction is going on,
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» All right. Now I understand.
>> Okay, great.

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» I don't have any questions about the
sign.

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Ben?
>> Great.

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Um, I don't I don't either. I
um Kathy, can we just look at that slide

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seven there? Yeah, I think yeah, can we
just look at that real quick?

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I'm
Yeah, so I'm you know, I'm familiar with

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those two. So I have I have no concern
either. Is there a motion on the table

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anybody like?
>> Uh, motion to approve as filed.

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» Second.
>> Uh, okay.

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Paul on your second. I guess that's how
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» Aye.
>> Mark?

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» Aye.
>> And I as well.

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Thank you, McKenzie.
>> Thank you all very much.

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» All right. Thanks, McKenzie.
>> All right. And now we're moving on to

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staff update.
>> Yeah, so I

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I don't have really anything to report.
Um, well actually I do have something to

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report.
I had a conversation with the property

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owner downtown of the pop-ups.
>> Mhm.

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» Very good conversation. Um,
apparently she has in her lease with all

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the tenants to go through the sign
council process and

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adhere to the regulations and
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didn't realize that they weren't being
adhered to until she got this

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second ticket and um
Yeah, so we had a really good

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conversation. I said, know, you really
need to submit a master sign plan moving

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forward and maybe it would behoove you
to attend a meeting.

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Um, maybe ask some questions if you like
of the council members.

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But, um, you know, I stressed the fact
that the next

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violation would be a $300 fine per day.
So, um, kind of got her attention, but

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um,
you know, she wasn't aware that

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of all the extra signage.
And, um, I had to kind of clarify all

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the
the last or the first citation I sent,

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um, with all the logos and explained the
definition of a sign and how it attracts

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attention and whether it be a logo or if
or, you know,

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bow decorations around the door or what
have you, um, that those are considered

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signs.
So, it was a good conversation and

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hope to hear from her
at the beginning of the season next

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year.
And and that was basically it.

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» Okay.
>> Yeah.

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» Sure.
>> I don't know if you have any other

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questions
for me. I'm a little behind in some of

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the things that you all sent me. I was
just trying to catch the low-hanging

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fruit cuz you know, the proliferation of
the freestanding signs is out of control

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this summer.
So, I was just trying to tackle all of

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that a lot of that and a lot of
education. So, there's a lot of red

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still that I just haven't gotten to.
Um, you know, between fine violations

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and HDC violations, it's been
very busy summer.

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» Yeah, I mean, I think, um,
you know, some of the the players who

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like the pop-ups and the new operations
that may or may not understand the

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that our rules actually are enforced. I
think those people it's good to get no

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at least a notification so that come
next summer they're not, you know,

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playing coy again and doing the same
stuff.

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Um you know, some of the, you know, old
institutions of the island who have

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pushed the envelope or kind of forgotten
about the rules.

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Obviously we want to catch them
eventually and let them know, but I feel

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like
they're not going anywhere. So there's

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there's one
I've I've heard rumor from

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my wife that there's some unusual
signage at a

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farm stand that needs some attention.
>> Yeah.

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» So I don't have that
on the list yet, but

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it will be sooner or later. But you
know, they're not going anywhere so it's

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not like, hey
you know, feel like the pop-ups if they

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get a letter at least
they'll know that next season they got a

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» You know, it's it's funny Mr. Chair for
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it's the same
sentiment is felt throughout town

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departments when it comes to enforcement
and there are folks that say

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why you picking on me?
How come this person does it and they're

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not fined and well, they don't know they
might be fined. They might be going

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through the the enforcement process.
But it's the same

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reaction so to speak. Some people take
get very defensive about it and some

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people
some people listen to you and say, oh,

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I'm sorry I didn't know and it won't
happen again and others, you know, say

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how come this person is doing it and
then they they get kind of

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um
uh not well, they challenge you. And but

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that's true in every single department.
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Amy Baxter deals with this. I deal with
it at the health department. It's not

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it's not new. It's just um it does
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So it's about education on all fronts um
as we've talked about before.

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» Yep.
Agreed. Yeah, nobody's off the hook. I

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don't want to make that you know there's
there's I'm not saying that at all.

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Every Everybody has to play by the same
rules. It's just

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» Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
>> Educating the ones who are less

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familiar.
>> Right.

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Right.
>> Anyway.

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» Yeah.
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» I don't know. I guess that's the end of
our meeting. Does anybody

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want to hang out or
>> Motion to adjourn.

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» Paul, what do you think about that?

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Uh
>> Paul?

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» Oh, I.
>> Oh, you got a second it, I think.

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» I'll second. Okay.
>> go.

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All right, Mark, what do you think?
>> I.

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» All right.
Paul, what do you think? You like to

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adjourn? You want to
You want to uh

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What's your vote?
>> I.

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» All right, I am as well. Thank you,
everybody.

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» Thank you, guys. Bye.
>> Thanks, guys.

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» See you next week.
>> Yep, we'll see you next week.