1 00:00:18,990 --> 00:00:36,950 I think he was probably just not expected to attend it. 2 00:00:38,620 --> 00:00:39,700 are we ready? 3 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:42,680 I did. 4 00:00:48,860 --> 00:00:49,220 You ready? 5 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:50,260 Okay. 6 00:00:50,480 --> 00:00:55,660 Well, let us call to order the meeting of the community development 7 00:00:55,660 --> 00:00:56,740 Black grant commission. 8 00:00:58,020 --> 00:00:58,800 And could we begin? 9 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:01,020 Please by starting with the roll call. 10 00:01:04,390 --> 00:01:04,750 Okay. 11 00:01:05,310 --> 00:01:06,490 Harry Colomar. 12 00:01:06,850 --> 00:01:07,270 President. 13 00:01:08,030 --> 00:01:09,330 Karina O'Brien. 14 00:01:10,130 --> 00:01:10,470 absent. 15 00:01:10,970 --> 00:01:13,030 Walter Rich Richardson. 16 00:01:14,670 --> 00:01:15,650 Robert Vanderveld. 17 00:01:15,650 --> 00:01:24,690 here. Virginia Young, Richard Tippett, Absent, and Guillermo Rosas, Absent, staff members present, 18 00:01:25,110 --> 00:01:27,150 Jessica Miras here, John Sakamoto. 19 00:01:31,950 --> 00:01:35,390 And we have a quorum. So the first item on our agenda 20 00:01:35,390 --> 00:01:36,850 is to review the agenda. 21 00:01:40,260 --> 00:01:47,800 We have a motion to approve the agenda. We need that. Anything else 22 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:53,760 The only thing I would like to add for the agenda and for today and for future meetings 23 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:59,560 John is I think it'd be helpful for us to have a staff update under the Administrative 24 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:04,760 Report and so for example what happened with our recommendations last time I know there 25 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:10,180 have been some changes at least with one of the grant recipients and so just a general update 26 00:02:10,180 --> 00:02:16,020 if we could add that into the agenda for this meeting and for future meetings as well 27 00:02:16,020 --> 00:02:20,340 and let us mark Karina as present, no. 28 00:02:25,260 --> 00:02:27,760 Public comments, I don't see any members of the public 29 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:33,020 present any longer, so we don't have any, do we have on the 30 00:02:33,020 --> 00:02:36,140 consent agenda, we only have one item which is the approval of the 31 00:02:36,140 --> 00:02:40,980 minutes of April 27, 2026, do we have any changes or 32 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:49,420 suggestions to the minutes of the April 27th 33 00:02:55,570 --> 00:02:55,570 meeting. 34 00:02:55,980 --> 00:02:58,810 Well, hearing none, all in favor of approval. 35 00:02:59,650 --> 00:03:00,150 Say aye. 36 00:03:01,070 --> 00:03:01,310 Aye. 37 00:03:02,470 --> 00:03:05,490 Okay, I move that we accept the minutes as written. 38 00:03:05,950 --> 00:03:06,010 Aye. 39 00:03:06,010 --> 00:03:06,670 I'll second it. 40 00:03:08,270 --> 00:03:09,650 All in favor. 41 00:03:10,950 --> 00:03:11,590 Opposed. 42 00:03:12,650 --> 00:03:12,790 Okay. 43 00:03:13,110 --> 00:03:13,310 Great. 44 00:03:13,970 --> 00:03:27,330 So, on to, as I said, the staff update, could you give us an update, please, John, on the status of our recommendations, and also I believe there have been at least one change with one of the grant recipients. 45 00:03:29,110 --> 00:03:37,270 Yes, so recommendations were made to HUD during for the annual action plan for the current year we're in for school year 2627 program year 26. 46 00:03:37,890 --> 00:03:42,410 I have not had our response from HUD yet or our grant agreement, but that's typical timing-wise. 47 00:03:42,750 --> 00:03:46,410 It typically will come until October or November at the soonest. 48 00:03:47,570 --> 00:03:52,430 For the program year that we're reporting on at the paper, I could provide the update that on the move, 49 00:03:52,610 --> 00:03:56,290 who was awarded a public service grant, decided to walk away from that grant. 50 00:03:57,450 --> 00:03:59,170 It came so late for them. 51 00:03:59,230 --> 00:04:04,770 They had concerns, fiscally, about doing journal entries to account for it, even though they could, 52 00:04:04,770 --> 00:04:08,330 and we advised them that that was definitely possible wouldn't be a violating of any 53 00:04:08,330 --> 00:04:08,910 HUD stance. 54 00:04:09,130 --> 00:04:12,850 They had enough private donation funds that they chose to do that rather than make 55 00:04:12,850 --> 00:04:14,050 the change. 56 00:04:15,790 --> 00:04:18,910 So, I understand there's also been a change with NEPA for housing. 57 00:04:19,330 --> 00:04:20,870 Are you aware of that? 58 00:04:21,130 --> 00:04:27,330 NEPA for housing as an entity is changing, changing leadership and going through some changes. 59 00:04:27,470 --> 00:04:29,150 There's still providing service to the valley. 60 00:04:29,450 --> 00:04:33,770 There's similar to what they had been doing before, but they are under a new working with 61 00:04:33,770 --> 00:04:39,770 a new group to provide some of the service more on that to come as things flesh out and finish up. 62 00:04:41,890 --> 00:04:47,610 So I have a question about so I don't recall I could look it up for that rather just ask. 63 00:04:48,090 --> 00:04:56,050 So we approved how much for on the move and how what was done with the funds that we had allocated to them. 64 00:04:56,650 --> 00:04:58,570 I don't have the exact number but I will look it up shortly. 65 00:04:58,570 --> 00:04:58,930 Um 66 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:12,140 What is, well, need to be done is it will need to be reprogrammed. Because it's public service though, and it's in the year and the past, it'll have to be reprogrammed to some sort of community development type project. 67 00:05:12,780 --> 00:05:24,040 We won't be able to meet the criteria in order to stay within the gap to add it to this year's current public service agencies. So it'll have to be reprogrammed and so we'll come to you with options. 68 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:31,280 We'll likely try to meet with you again sooner before the end of the year on like usual to come up with a plan to fix this. 69 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:33,600 Ah, thank you. That's very clear. 70 00:05:36,350 --> 00:05:37,050 Any other questions? 71 00:05:39,270 --> 00:05:39,470 Okay. 72 00:05:40,930 --> 00:05:47,690 Moving on to the caper, the consolidated annual performance evaluation report, John. 73 00:05:48,530 --> 00:05:49,970 You had a step aside this, please? 74 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:56,900 Yes, so this year we still had a fair bit of success. 75 00:05:57,040 --> 00:06:01,460 We were able to complete some projects for owner occupied housing rehabilitation, did 7 projects 76 00:06:01,460 --> 00:06:02,240 this year. 77 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:03,400 We're CDBG funds. 78 00:06:03,420 --> 00:06:08,600 We did eight with home funds so the program is operating well doing what it needs to be doing. 79 00:06:09,460 --> 00:06:15,020 The public service entities, they were all the rest of them, besides on the move, fully 80 00:06:15,020 --> 00:06:23,440 expanding delivering fair numbers, which was good to see, the two non-profit capital improvement 81 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:28,540 projects. We are still waiting for environmental and enough bids to make sure that we can meet 82 00:06:28,540 --> 00:06:33,240 the criteria for to satisfy HUD before those can take off and start going under construction. 83 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:40,260 That's the short of it, but were there any questions that came up in your review this year 84 00:06:41,260 --> 00:06:42,660 from the fire? 85 00:06:42,700 --> 00:06:44,260 The boy's aching. 86 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:46,160 Erring through the report? 87 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:50,260 Some reason I can't find it anymore. 88 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:53,440 There was a listing of the types of services. 89 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:56,280 I can't seem to find that. 90 00:06:56,280 --> 00:06:57,240 I thought it was right at the beginning, 91 00:06:59,360 --> 00:06:59,360 but 92 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:01,260 I just didn't know if I had to talk to their head. 93 00:07:01,420 --> 00:07:02,320 What page that was? 94 00:07:02,820 --> 00:07:03,140 It's weird. 95 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:04,540 What is it that year? 96 00:07:05,340 --> 00:07:05,940 Never mind. 97 00:07:06,840 --> 00:07:08,880 It's not critical that I find it to ask my question. 98 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:14,740 It was a good thorough list that was comprehensive, but all the types of programs and housing that 99 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:18,460 are addressed in the paper in the community services. 100 00:07:18,620 --> 00:07:23,780 There was one that I felt was missing from what I think of as a typical housing continuum 101 00:07:23,780 --> 00:07:26,220 of services, which is transitional housing. 102 00:07:27,020 --> 00:07:33,240 The 18-month type of housing that's for people who are homeless in that risk of homelessness. 103 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:40,200 this. And so I didn't see it listed as one of the types of services slash housing that we 104 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:47,820 provide, but I believe we actually at times in the past have. I know I forgot the name of 105 00:07:47,820 --> 00:07:54,420 the program, but there was the program for the mentally ill adults that was up off of Redwood 106 00:07:54,420 --> 00:08:02,500 road up there, where my ear goes used to be, that had to close. It was in a form of motel six, 107 00:08:03,700 --> 00:08:07,540 and I believe that one of the problems was there. There were a variety of issues, apparently, 108 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:13,540 with that site, but I believe that that was operating under a transitional housing umbrella. 109 00:08:15,860 --> 00:08:22,260 So, having operated such programs, I would say that they have value within a continuum. 110 00:08:22,260 --> 00:08:29,940 They're useless standing on their own because just what happened to the folks is at the motel six is what happens if you don't have enough 111 00:08:29,940 --> 00:08:37,040 Supportive housing stock for folks to move into and then they reach the limit at the time during 112 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:42,000 You know, of 18 months when they can get the support sometimes you can extend it a little bit but 113 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:47,800 Basically you do end up booting right back out onto the street and you're right back to where you started 114 00:08:49,340 --> 00:08:59,900 Anyway, simple question is is there any particular policy reason why it was left off the list or was it more just slip the mind kind of thing or something? 115 00:09:00,700 --> 00:09:05,480 No particular policy reason why it probably would have fit under homeless shelters. 116 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:10,860 I would assume a lot of actions taken for institutional in the homelessness section. 117 00:09:12,340 --> 00:09:21,830 We could certainly talk about it in there the other area would probably be 118 00:09:24,710 --> 00:09:25,290 in the helping 119 00:09:25,290 --> 00:09:34,930 homelessness kind of section with that be page 113 page which I'm sorry you were referring us 120 00:09:34,930 --> 00:09:39,750 to page 13 of the paper of the paper I know we've got sort of this double numbering thing 121 00:09:39,750 --> 00:09:47,250 Always drives me nuts. Yeah, I do apologize for that. I'm okay. 13 of the caper 122 00:09:47,250 --> 00:09:50,070 Which that's okay 123 00:09:51,030 --> 00:09:56,310 Sorry, this always gets me this double numbered 124 00:09:57,810 --> 00:09:59,490 Okay, that's 125 00:10:00,050 --> 00:10:08,270 22 of 33, okay. Yes, that is exactly right. I mean, even the word transition is right there. And I'm 126 00:10:08,270 --> 00:10:17,030 just, I just would suggest that as of a bold and homeless coordination look at service spectrums 127 00:10:17,030 --> 00:10:24,090 over the years, transitional housing is a typical, for one thing, there are, under certain 128 00:10:24,090 --> 00:10:31,350 administrations. There are funding opportunities that show up for that specific type of housing 129 00:10:31,350 --> 00:10:34,490 that it would be ashamed not to go be able to go after. 130 00:10:36,980 --> 00:10:38,760 That's that comment. I have other 131 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:42,100 comments but I will wait and I will let the people speak. 132 00:10:44,060 --> 00:10:44,660 Anything else? 133 00:10:45,660 --> 00:10:49,520 Okay, I will go ahead because I have two more things but I can wait. 134 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:52,980 If you turn your mic off and then we'll... 135 00:10:52,980 --> 00:10:55,840 Well, I wasn't sure if I was genuine putters on. 136 00:10:56,520 --> 00:11:03,600 OK, so page 5 of the paper, 14 of the document that was the PDF. 137 00:11:04,860 --> 00:11:06,560 This is the kind of thing that Harry says I always 138 00:11:06,560 --> 00:11:06,820 spot. 139 00:11:07,100 --> 00:11:13,160 But in the second column, under source, public is lowercase for the first 140 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:15,660 one, and then uppercase for the bottom two. 141 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:17,820 I just feel like it should be consistent either way. 142 00:11:17,860 --> 00:11:19,280 Oh, thank you, though. 143 00:11:22,220 --> 00:11:28,180 Sorry, and then I had a question, which I feel like I should, this should be evident, 144 00:11:28,560 --> 00:11:35,440 but it's just not to me that one page earlier, on the top of page four, page 13 of the 145 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:41,740 PDF, about the racial and ethnic composition of families assisted, it has the families, 146 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:48,000 the 413, 56, and then the bottom amount of Hispanic and not Hispanic, and I just don't 147 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:53,980 is the top, like those numbers obviously don't add up what is is one individuals and what is 148 00:11:53,980 --> 00:12:01,160 families or what is that? Happy to work through this one. The problem with this particular table 149 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:08,240 as it is provided by HUD is that when it's populating the race category it's leaving off 150 00:12:08,820 --> 00:12:13,980 other or multiracial and so the reason why that number of Hispanic is so high on the bottom one 151 00:12:13,980 --> 00:12:20,980 because some of our public service agencies, people identify as other or 152 00:12:20,980 --> 00:12:24,780 multibacial and not white. And so it's not captured in this table, and that's 153 00:12:24,780 --> 00:12:27,740 why the number shows such a big variance. Is there's that many people selecting 154 00:12:27,740 --> 00:12:29,860 other or multibacial rather than white Hispanic? 155 00:12:30,260 --> 00:12:33,100 It's not captured in the top part of the whole part, but it's captured in the lower part. 156 00:12:33,100 --> 00:12:34,320 But it's captured in the lower part. 157 00:12:34,340 --> 00:12:35,020 That makes sense. 158 00:12:35,620 --> 00:12:40,120 But the totals don't add up, and it's because of the way in which the federal 159 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:47,060 government categorizes race and Hispanic origin as two different categories, right? So you have 160 00:12:47,060 --> 00:12:53,200 a race category, and as you said, they emit other, but then separately you have a Hispanic 161 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:59,980 non-Hispanic. And so I think in the narrative, you put in there a very nice explanation 162 00:12:59,980 --> 00:13:04,520 this year. I really appreciate that, because it is confusing. It looks like we only had 163 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:09,200 It was 4,500 families when, in fact, it was 4,500 families. 164 00:13:09,500 --> 00:13:09,680 Exactly. 165 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:10,460 Yeah. 166 00:13:11,020 --> 00:13:14,280 And it's just an unfortunate short coming of the way this table 167 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:15,180 populates for them. 168 00:13:15,560 --> 00:13:18,460 They could easily solve it by adding other at the bottom in it. 169 00:13:18,620 --> 00:13:20,900 It would all match and be very easy to read. 170 00:13:21,580 --> 00:13:24,200 But when it goes into the caper, when it goes into their system, 171 00:13:24,540 --> 00:13:25,500 this is how it will look. 172 00:13:25,740 --> 00:13:28,220 And we have to have the narrative to explain why the variance is there. 173 00:13:34,590 --> 00:13:44,430 So on page 9, you talked about zoning standards and barriers to group homes, and I just wanted 174 00:13:44,430 --> 00:13:50,330 to make a tutorial note about that, which I've actually mentioned to Rob at Memphis as 175 00:13:50,330 --> 00:13:53,650 well, since they've started to finally engage in support of housing. 176 00:13:55,470 --> 00:13:59,010 The key that unlocks that problem is master leasing. 177 00:14:00,250 --> 00:14:08,170 The limit, as you probably know, is a residence, is six before you have to call it a licensed facility. 178 00:14:08,990 --> 00:14:16,370 So six are below, you can master lease a house with multiple bedrooms, anywhere you want, and you can move people in. 179 00:14:16,670 --> 00:14:23,150 It doesn't mean you shouldn't spend some time talking to the neighbors in the softening the ground, but you don't have to. 180 00:14:23,150 --> 00:14:31,210 there's not a formal complaint procedure that can block it and it's a mechanism that's extremely 181 00:14:31,210 --> 00:14:41,670 useful. The key, especially now, is getting funds in order to do the leasing. I can get 182 00:14:41,670 --> 00:14:50,030 into the whole programmatic structure. But it is a great work around. It's harder if the population 183 00:14:50,030 --> 00:14:54,890 or you're working with does need a license facility, which is sometimes the case with certain 184 00:14:54,890 --> 00:14:55,430 populations. 185 00:14:56,750 --> 00:14:59,210 But with folks who are basically... 186 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:16,980 We have a lot to do a little bit of it. In this community, we're about 40 years behind the curve. 187 00:15:18,780 --> 00:15:29,940 It's a model that works, we've just finally started to do a little bit of it in this community, we're about 40 years behind the curve. 188 00:15:29,940 --> 00:15:35,120 on it, but it's still, it's cartoning to see 189 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:37,720 mentors beginning, in particular, dipping their tones 190 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:38,100 of the water. 191 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:40,440 I think progress knows exactly how this works, 192 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:42,420 but the economics may be a barrier. 193 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:46,420 But I did want to note that that's the work around that works 194 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:50,660 when there's understandable, nimioposition 195 00:15:51,420 --> 00:15:54,820 to licensed group homes in various neighborhoods. 196 00:15:55,580 --> 00:15:58,700 I have only one more. 197 00:16:00,380 --> 00:16:03,780 Oh, okay, it's a request rather than a note. 198 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:06,780 On page 13, you talk about HMIS stats. 199 00:16:07,500 --> 00:16:10,040 And I know what you guys are new, 200 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:12,080 so you won't consider me a broken record. 201 00:16:13,580 --> 00:16:14,660 But pretty much every year, 202 00:16:14,860 --> 00:16:18,820 I ask if we could please have access to or be able to see 203 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:21,820 the most recent years HMIS stats. 204 00:16:21,820 --> 00:16:30,800 I find them very informative and helpful to truly understand how we're doing on all those indicators. 205 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:39,880 When would it be appropriate time to bring that to the committee, the early meeting of the year, will we do the calendar? 206 00:16:40,460 --> 00:16:46,140 Yeah, because it's informational, it doesn't necessarily lead to decision making. 207 00:16:47,660 --> 00:16:56,920 I think, I will speak for myself, it enlarges my understanding of how we are doing that along with things like the point in time count. 208 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:09,100 It's a snapshot, but there are indicators, at least as I recall, that give a little bit broader idea of how people are actually moving through the system. 209 00:17:09,100 --> 00:17:14,200 because one thing point in time just tells us that on that day this is how many people we found 210 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:20,320 over in Kennedy or down by the creek or wherever. It's I think we're useful to have a better 211 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:27,180 picture of. Okay, fine. And a bold staff went out and talked to them and this person, you know, 212 00:17:27,300 --> 00:17:34,620 we managed to move seven to this and that, you know. Okay, yeah, I can work with the continuing 213 00:17:34,620 --> 00:17:38,880 of care to provide the system performance measures when they come out. 214 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:39,400 Thank you. 215 00:17:39,740 --> 00:17:39,880 Absolutely. 216 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:40,560 That's it. 217 00:17:40,700 --> 00:17:42,320 I'm done with my comments. 218 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:45,100 Anything else? 219 00:17:45,900 --> 00:17:46,500 Thank you. 220 00:17:47,860 --> 00:17:51,620 The only other thing I had on page 22 of the document, 221 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:57,060 I talked about receiving the public of the paper, 222 00:17:57,500 --> 00:18:00,520 page 20, not the PDF page 22 of the paper, 223 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:03,080 it says during the public comment period, 224 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:08,920 this is about the paper. The city received to be completed public comments and so you just 225 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:12,900 want to highlight that that's obviously a blank that you need to fill in. Yes absolutely. 226 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:18,960 And I have soon as of today we haven't received any. Yeah we haven't received any and it's open 227 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:24,080 until the city council meeting so once council meetings over I will fill in that to be completed 228 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:30,060 with whatever many comments we receive. Okay September the 15th. 229 00:18:32,170 --> 00:18:34,570 So do you need a motion to 230 00:18:34,570 --> 00:18:38,650 prove this to recommend to council where it's just a more of an information item. 231 00:18:38,930 --> 00:18:41,050 I believe it's a motion to present the information. 232 00:18:41,750 --> 00:18:43,990 So, all entertain a motion to approve. 233 00:18:45,470 --> 00:18:46,670 We have a motion. 234 00:18:47,810 --> 00:18:48,330 Approved? 235 00:18:48,370 --> 00:18:48,810 Yes. 236 00:18:49,050 --> 00:18:49,170 Approved. 237 00:18:49,370 --> 00:18:50,170 Rich is moving. 238 00:18:50,850 --> 00:18:50,930 Yes. 239 00:18:51,010 --> 00:18:51,610 Do we have a second? 240 00:18:52,710 --> 00:18:52,890 Okay. 241 00:18:53,410 --> 00:18:54,890 Let's see if we have to go to the sector step now. 242 00:18:55,210 --> 00:18:55,730 I'll second. 243 00:18:56,230 --> 00:18:56,910 Thank you very much. 244 00:18:57,450 --> 00:18:58,470 Any discussion? 245 00:19:00,530 --> 00:19:01,110 All in favour? 246 00:19:01,390 --> 00:19:01,830 Say aye. 247 00:19:02,450 --> 00:19:02,590 Aye. 248 00:19:03,010 --> 00:19:03,170 Aye. 249 00:19:04,230 --> 00:19:04,330 Aye. 250 00:19:04,330 --> 00:19:08,550 as well. So it is approved. Thank you. 251 00:19:08,650 --> 00:19:08,930 Thank you. 252 00:19:09,550 --> 00:19:12,450 Jonathan, I have just one kind of side note 253 00:19:12,450 --> 00:19:15,970 question to all this in planning for next year. 254 00:19:17,210 --> 00:19:19,730 And I know the city plan is coming up as well, 255 00:19:20,050 --> 00:19:21,830 another version of it. 256 00:19:22,850 --> 00:19:26,430 But with the economy, the local economy, 257 00:19:27,430 --> 00:19:28,890 and with the wine industry, 258 00:19:29,610 --> 00:19:31,110 really being challenged, it was whenever 259 00:19:31,110 --> 00:19:40,310 in to someone today who just kind of brought it up. Are you noticing any impact on some of these 260 00:19:40,310 --> 00:19:48,570 issues? Are you hearing financially any sort of funding by private sources to some of the sources 261 00:19:48,570 --> 00:19:58,280 we're looking at being affected at all? That's a huge question. I don't know. In looking at the 262 00:19:58,280 --> 00:19:59,960 so I can see that there's a fair bit. 263 00:20:02,500 --> 00:20:13,560 It's not filling the gap that the federal government left behind on several or non-profits. The need for additional funding, other sources, more help, still very much exists. 264 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:24,340 In doing some research for this paper, looking at the statistics in our area, I can tell you that the fair market rents since 2019 is skyrocketed, it's almost double. 265 00:20:24,340 --> 00:20:30,720 And the average median income is also risen by 70 something percent. 266 00:20:31,100 --> 00:20:37,680 So while those numbers are rising quite rapidly impacting what's available on the market, 267 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:40,760 those working folks, which I'd like to see a study on, 268 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:45,060 I don't think that's changing as rapidly as the average median would indicate. 269 00:20:52,060 --> 00:20:53,940 Do we have anything else? 270 00:20:54,120 --> 00:20:54,760 Should we go to the order? 271 00:20:56,300 --> 00:21:02,060 Yeah, I just wanted to note, which I did informally, that four of us sitting at this place. 272 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:05,760 I think you, too, right, Karina, have re-applying? 273 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:08,500 Oh, are we all up? 274 00:21:08,740 --> 00:21:09,120 Yes. 275 00:21:09,460 --> 00:21:10,100 All four of us. 276 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:12,140 Everyone, except Richard. 277 00:21:12,620 --> 00:21:13,900 Richard and Richard. 278 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:16,820 Richard and Guillermo. 279 00:21:17,100 --> 00:21:17,740 Yeah, and Guillermo. 280 00:21:18,980 --> 00:21:24,240 But yeah, the four of us are all, and I believe we've all re-applied. 281 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:27,320 Yes, I did. I haven't heard anything beyond the plan. 282 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:36,300 No, I spoke with Tiffany today and she was, I guess they just closed a week ago or so. 283 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:43,340 Anyway, there are more applicants than spots, so we will have to go through the interview process to be determined. 284 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:44,280 Okay. 285 00:21:46,670 --> 00:21:49,470 But I think all of us are terms expired. 286 00:21:49,470 --> 00:21:56,130 And as much as we know, is Giroa still joining us, I haven't seen much of the meetings. 287 00:21:57,110 --> 00:22:02,830 He did respond to our Rick email, letting us know that he had an appointment come up that he wouldn't be able to. 288 00:22:02,910 --> 00:22:03,990 But he's still interested. 289 00:22:04,310 --> 00:22:04,530 Okay. 290 00:22:05,530 --> 00:22:05,830 Good. 291 00:22:06,310 --> 00:22:06,590 Very good. 292 00:22:07,530 --> 00:22:10,870 Well, we have nothing further for the agenda. 293 00:22:11,170 --> 00:22:12,570 I will call the meeting adjourned. 294 00:22:13,150 --> 00:22:14,110 Thank you all very much. 295 00:22:14,470 --> 00:22:14,750 Thank you all. 296 00:22:15,590 --> 00:22:17,470 Our next meeting date is... 297 00:22:17,470 --> 00:22:18,210 Thank you. 298 00:22:21,210 --> 00:22:23,430 I'm going to have to send you guys an email.