1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,780 This conduct the roll call. Mr. Schrom, 2 00:00:05,780 --> 00:00:05,940 Mr. 3 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:23,340 Mr. Older, Mr. Hurley, here, Mr. Nyer, Mr. Web, Mr. Kuzwinsky, here, Mr. Haley, here, Mr. Mr. Yang, Mr. Rose, Councilman McBrue. 4 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:32,480 All right, we have a quorum, the meeting is officially called to order. The first order of business tonight is the public form. 5 00:00:32,480 --> 00:00:36,740 during the public forum members of the public have the opportunity to address the 6 00:00:36,740 --> 00:00:41,540 transportation advisory board on issues which are not part of tonight's agenda. 7 00:00:42,460 --> 00:00:44,640 Please keep your comments limited to three minutes. 8 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:48,620 Staff, do we have anyone signed up to speak as part of the public forum? 9 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:51,480 There are no speakers signed up. 10 00:00:52,500 --> 00:00:53,120 All right. 11 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:56,480 With no speakers, is anyone... 12 00:00:57,260 --> 00:00:59,400 No comments to the public forum is now closed. 13 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:02,900 So we do have the written comments. 14 00:01:03,420 --> 00:01:04,980 Those are already recorded. 15 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:15,540 Yes, so there was one written comment sent in online that was printed out and sent to the tab members. 16 00:01:17,700 --> 00:01:20,860 Our next order of business are the reports and recommendations. 17 00:01:23,060 --> 00:01:29,600 So first up is agenda item 261041 to approve the minutes of the August 6, 18 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:34,940 twenty twenty six transportation advisory board meeting. I will entertain a motion to have a discussion on the 19 00:01:34,940 --> 00:01:38,640 side. Do we have a motion and a second to approve the minutes of the August 6th, 20 00:01:38,860 --> 00:01:42,600 twenty twenty six August, uh, transportation advisory board meeting. 21 00:01:44,860 --> 00:01:45,820 So more. 22 00:01:45,900 --> 00:01:46,620 I'm a sterleder. 23 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:47,320 Second. 24 00:01:47,780 --> 00:01:48,400 Excuse me. 25 00:01:48,460 --> 00:01:48,840 Excuse me. 26 00:01:51,130 --> 00:01:54,170 Do we have any revisions or comments regarding the minutes? 27 00:01:59,420 --> 00:02:03,420 All right. Staff, can we please call the roll? All those in favor signify by saying aye. 28 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:04,160 Those opposed. 29 00:02:05,820 --> 00:02:12,800 Mr. Schrom, Mr. Olga, Mr. Hurley, Mr. Nire, Mr. 30 00:02:12,920 --> 00:02:17,080 Mr. Kurzwinski, Mr. Hantley, Mr. Yang. 31 00:02:19,660 --> 00:02:26,680 Motion passes. We approve the minutes of the August 6, 2026 transportation advisory board meeting 32 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:36,380 a submit in. Next, we have 261018 to receive the presentation and provide input and propose 33 00:02:36,380 --> 00:02:41,080 update of the city's bicycle and pedestrian plan. Mr. Prusa, you have the floor. 34 00:02:42,460 --> 00:02:47,280 The city enabled out of the previous bicycle and pedestrian plan in 1997 and completed 35 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:53,100 an interim update in 2006 to prioritize bicycle route implementation. These plans guided the development 36 00:02:53,100 --> 00:02:57,360 of Naples sidewalk in Phil program and the construction of the existing bicycle network. 37 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:02,980 In recent years, the city identified mobility as a priority area with the goal of ensuring 38 00:03:02,980 --> 00:03:07,660 residents can move about the community with ease in a variety of transportation modes. 39 00:03:10,220 --> 00:03:10,920 Excuse me. 40 00:03:11,140 --> 00:03:15,580 The updated bicycle pedestrian plan evaluates existing conditions and public input to identify 41 00:03:15,580 --> 00:03:19,000 infrastructure improvements and programs that Naples can implement over the next 42 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:24,060 20 years to expand active transportation opportunities in enhanced user comfort. 43 00:03:24,060 --> 00:03:33,180 The recommendations included in this plan will be to incorporate into the City's capital improvement program as new projects to be evaluated in further detail. 44 00:03:34,580 --> 00:03:42,360 In 2025, the City hired abstinent sons international to develop and to develop and update to the bicycle and pedestrian plan. 45 00:03:42,740 --> 00:03:51,780 Over the past year, I've seen work with staff to evaluate the existing conditions of Naples Active Transportation Network and perform a level of stress analysis of roadways and intersections. 46 00:03:51,780 --> 00:03:57,740 Along with gathering public input, the results of the existing conditions analysis and public 47 00:03:57,740 --> 00:04:00,240 comments were utilized to develop project recommendations. 48 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:05,720 A preliminary draft of recommendations was presented to the public at an open house in April 49 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:07,580 2020-26. 50 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:12,760 Feedback from the event was incorporated to further refine project recommendations and proposed 51 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:13,340 routes. 52 00:04:14,540 --> 00:04:19,400 At tonight's tab, FC Mobile Provider presentation is in findings from community engagement events 53 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:23,360 and existing conditions evaluation, and we'll give an overview of the project recommendations. 54 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:41,120 Thank you, Mr. Prusa. Council members. The elements of the presentation, we're going to, both of us are going to present on this. 55 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:47,100 We're really excited to talk about what we've been doing over the last 12 months. 56 00:04:48,460 --> 00:04:55,820 You have a full draft of the bicycle plan in your agenda packet. 57 00:04:55,820 --> 00:04:59,960 So hopefully you've had an opportunity to look through it, but I won't, we will talk. 58 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:04,280 I'll give you a little bit of a summary of what's in the plan. 59 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:05,620 Let's go to the next slide. 60 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:12,720 So first, I want to talk about the goals and the vision of this plan. 61 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:20,080 And initially the goals and the vision were established through community surveys that we did, 62 00:05:20,460 --> 00:05:27,640 through stakeholder input, and through working with the Ted Group, the Naperville Ted Group staff. 63 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:34,840 And also, there were comments that we reviewed from the roadway improvement plan that the City 64 00:05:34,840 --> 00:05:40,500 of Naperville did that talked a lot about vice-compression, so from all of that information 65 00:05:40,500 --> 00:05:45,780 and from coordinating with the Ted Group is how we develop these goals in this vision. 66 00:05:46,620 --> 00:05:51,660 Some of the main points of the vision is to create a network, that's what we've heard. 67 00:05:51,660 --> 00:05:56,940 people want to feel safe and comfortable when walking and biking around 68 00:05:56,940 --> 00:06:02,940 Naperville. And people wanted connections to destinations. Those were the main 69 00:06:02,940 --> 00:06:07,300 themes that we've heard. In general people in Naperville want to walk in 70 00:06:07,300 --> 00:06:12,960 bike in a lot of situations they just don't feel safe doing so. So that was one 71 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:14,300 goal of this plan. 72 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:20,520 Throughout the planning process the 12 month planning 73 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:28,100 process. We started with online public engagement and in person events, which 74 00:06:28,100 --> 00:06:32,600 stuff will talk more about. And we studied existing conditions. What does 75 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:38,760 need to look like today? And then we threw out the winter. Okay. 76 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:44,160 Throughout winter of 2025, there was more public engagement. At that point, we 77 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:49,620 did a needs analysis. So where are the gaps? Where are the barriers? We put 78 00:06:49,620 --> 00:06:56,060 together design guidance for the city to use when implementing some of these recommendations. 79 00:06:57,580 --> 00:07:02,980 And then by the spring of 26, we had an open house and through that open house, we took 80 00:07:02,980 --> 00:07:09,040 a lot of that input and kind of finalized our draft recommendations, which we then coordinated 81 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:14,460 and collaborated with the city of Naperville to finalize those recommendations and put together 82 00:07:14,460 --> 00:07:15,600 a draft plan. 83 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:18,340 And that's what you're looking at today. 84 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:22,960 The process going forward is tab meeting today, 85 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:25,400 and then final plan preparation, 86 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:28,680 hopefully approval by the city council. 87 00:07:31,010 --> 00:07:33,070 So I'm going to let Steph talk more about 88 00:07:33,610 --> 00:07:35,350 the specifics around community engagement. 89 00:07:36,950 --> 00:07:38,910 Yeah, as with any good planning process, 90 00:07:39,070 --> 00:07:40,490 community engagement is really critical. 91 00:07:40,550 --> 00:07:42,590 Component to make sure that the recommendations 92 00:07:42,590 --> 00:07:44,490 that we're making are meeting the needs 93 00:07:44,490 --> 00:07:46,070 and the desires of renewable residents. 94 00:07:46,070 --> 00:07:52,110 So as Greg said, we had some in-person pop-up events throughout the fall and early winter. 95 00:07:53,130 --> 00:08:00,090 These are at various community events or locations where people were going to be gathering 96 00:08:00,090 --> 00:08:07,150 going with their day naturally, and we could kind of pull them aside to ask some questions about the preferences on infrastructure types 97 00:08:07,150 --> 00:08:09,970 and also what destinations are really important to them. 98 00:08:09,970 --> 00:08:15,590 And so based on that feedback and some of our evaluations of the existing conditions and the needs analysis, 99 00:08:16,250 --> 00:08:22,330 you know, drafted the recommendations and brought those to the open house in April that my phone mentioned. 100 00:08:23,510 --> 00:08:28,710 And that was really our gut check to say, did is this meeting the expectations of April residents, 101 00:08:29,410 --> 00:08:32,290 doesn't, you know, achieve the goals that they're looking for. 102 00:08:32,390 --> 00:08:37,730 It doesn't kind of fit the vision that they have for a bicycle network and pedestrian improvements. 103 00:08:37,730 --> 00:08:52,610 And overwhelmingly the response from that was yes, I think we had over 90 participants attend that open house and over 90% of them said that it was, you know, a really good recommendations that kind of met their expectations and their needs. 104 00:08:53,230 --> 00:08:54,570 So that was great to hear. 105 00:08:55,150 --> 00:09:06,430 In addition to those in person events we also kind of throughout the beginning of the process and sort of middle of the process had virtual online option and an interactive map for people to provide comments on locations 106 00:09:06,430 --> 00:09:10,590 that they want to see improvements or destinations that we're important to them, for 107 00:09:10,590 --> 00:09:14,990 adding people an opportunity to weigh in at a time that was convenient for them. 108 00:09:15,310 --> 00:09:20,490 And we got over 500 comments on that interactive map, which has a lot to go through, but very 109 00:09:20,490 --> 00:09:21,090 fun to read. 110 00:09:21,670 --> 00:09:25,050 We also gave people the opportunity to like comments that they agreed with. 111 00:09:25,590 --> 00:09:30,370 We had over 850 likes on the map too, so lots of engagement on that, that was great to 112 00:09:30,370 --> 00:09:30,930 see. 113 00:09:30,930 --> 00:09:35,630 Overall, we were really happy with the quality and quantity of comments that we got throughout 114 00:09:35,630 --> 00:09:42,360 process both in person and online and what we are from that? 115 00:09:43,700 --> 00:09:47,520 Yeah, so I'm going to talk a little bit about existing conditions and what we found when 116 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:49,280 we were studying the existing conditions. 117 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:57,020 Some of the key factors analyze community destinations and public amenities. 118 00:09:58,800 --> 00:09:59,960 What we were looking at. 119 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:08,280 When we were looking at the existing conditions, was your bike, biking, walking, and transit amenities, and facilities that exist today. 120 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:21,160 We did also review the 1997 plan, the Mr. Pursa made reference to, and what those recommendations were, and if any of those had been implemented, or if anything, changed based on those recommendations. 121 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:30,120 We looked at your current facilities, we looked at roadway characteristics, like with and number of lanes and speed limit and the jurisdiction of the roadway. 122 00:10:30,860 --> 00:10:45,900 We also did a level of traffic stress analysis, which the methodology that we used is in the ash-doh-oh bicycle guide, which is a guide that is used by transportation professionals. 123 00:10:45,900 --> 00:10:51,760 So, it isn't something we just created, it's a methodology that is common in the industry. 124 00:10:52,860 --> 00:10:57,660 We looked at crashes and created a heat map of where the most amount of crashes are occurring. 125 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:04,520 And then that led us to kind of determine where some of the challenges are in the city of Naperville. 126 00:11:08,390 --> 00:11:12,990 And through that analysis, we were able to come up with strengths and challenges. 127 00:11:13,310 --> 00:11:15,810 First, you have a lot of sidewalk, which is great. 128 00:11:15,810 --> 00:11:25,530 A lot of your roads have sidewalk on them, and you have a lot of intersections, but a lot of them are low stress. 129 00:11:26,210 --> 00:11:28,230 So that is great as well. 130 00:11:29,150 --> 00:11:30,510 You have a lot of low stress routes. 131 00:11:30,690 --> 00:11:41,750 The residential streets that are quiet and curvy and vending and have some parked cars on them, which kind of requires people to slow down and pay attention and be careful. 132 00:11:41,750 --> 00:11:44,950 Those are nice low-stress routes to walk and bike-on. 133 00:11:48,550 --> 00:11:53,150 A lot of most of the roads under the city jurisdiction are low-speed, local, and residential streets. 134 00:11:53,330 --> 00:11:55,490 You have control over those types of roads. 135 00:11:56,310 --> 00:11:58,270 And there's a lot of destinations in Naperville. 136 00:11:58,330 --> 00:12:00,710 A lot of places that people want to go to. 137 00:12:01,430 --> 00:12:02,550 All great things. 138 00:12:03,130 --> 00:12:07,790 We did find barriers which are pretty common in a lot of places that we go to. 139 00:12:07,790 --> 00:12:12,310 rivers, rivers, high stress, streets, wide streets, 140 00:12:12,590 --> 00:12:14,030 fast streets, things like that. 141 00:12:14,310 --> 00:12:16,310 Create barriers, they're difficult to cross, 142 00:12:16,630 --> 00:12:19,050 or there's limited crossings. 143 00:12:20,290 --> 00:12:23,050 And in April, it's difficult to access downtown 144 00:12:23,050 --> 00:12:25,030 as a bicyclist and as a pedestrian, 145 00:12:26,050 --> 00:12:28,110 because of all the busy streets. 146 00:12:29,090 --> 00:12:32,390 And the development pattern requires people 147 00:12:32,390 --> 00:12:34,610 to travel on or across busy roads, right? 148 00:12:34,610 --> 00:12:36,950 I mean, it's the nature of the call, the sack, 149 00:12:36,950 --> 00:12:40,810 is that now there's limited roads that connect to places, 150 00:12:41,310 --> 00:12:43,050 so you're funneling all of the traffic 151 00:12:43,050 --> 00:12:46,050 to a limited number of roads through Naperville. 152 00:12:46,870 --> 00:12:47,410 It's common. 153 00:12:52,100 --> 00:12:55,580 So, and then, so we kind of put together our key findings 154 00:12:55,580 --> 00:12:59,480 and what we found is we wanted to expand north-south connectivity. 155 00:13:00,340 --> 00:13:03,420 There are some barriers that are cutting off north and south. 156 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:08,520 We wanted to reduce level of traffic stress throughout the network, 157 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:15,480 So anything we're going to recommend should be a level level of traffic stress enhancing intersections. 158 00:13:15,620 --> 00:13:19,000 Again, those crossings trying to make them comfortable for people walking and biking. 159 00:13:19,940 --> 00:13:26,520 And if there is a busy route that is there an alternative or a parallel route that we can use as a bicycle route. 160 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:28,680 So those were some of our key findings. 161 00:13:31,860 --> 00:13:33,340 And then Steph's going to talk about recommendations. 162 00:13:34,100 --> 00:13:39,140 Yeah, so all of that work culminates in over a hundred different infrastructure recommendations. 163 00:13:40,740 --> 00:13:47,040 A lot of them are bike facilities, like Greg said, you have a very pretty complete sidewalk network. 164 00:13:47,380 --> 00:13:53,240 So there's not a lot of sidewalk recommendations to make this a few gaps that we're recommending it filled or evaluated to be filled. 165 00:13:54,240 --> 00:14:02,020 And then as a lot of those bike projects get implemented, it's all so recommended to look at the crossings, especially those busy streets. 166 00:14:02,020 --> 00:14:08,620 because that's where you get the benefit for people walking and biking to fill gaps and 167 00:14:08,620 --> 00:14:14,460 connect, make more new connections. So overall, even when you're something looks like a 168 00:14:14,460 --> 00:14:19,400 bike project, it is also enhancing the pedestrian network by nature of some of the crossing 169 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:26,360 improvements that happen naturally along with it. We have the recommendations broken into four 170 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:29,960 quadrants just to make it easier to see and I'm not going to go through every single recommendation. 171 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:33,840 And in these books we can kind of deep dive in them during the Q&A if needed. 172 00:14:35,700 --> 00:14:39,740 So I'm going to give an overview of each of these quadrants of what the goal we're trying 173 00:14:39,740 --> 00:14:41,080 to achieve for each of them was. 174 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:48,120 And we have everything symbolized by the different bicycle facility type, so a bike boulevard 175 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:54,580 in which are those low traffic volume, mostly residential streets, where you have, we recommend 176 00:14:54,580 --> 00:14:59,960 when you put pretty frequent pavement markings, signage, usually crossing it. 177 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:06,580 We're going to prevent, especially at those busy intersections, just to traffic calming can be really common on those streets as well. 178 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:12,120 Bike lane, I'm assuming it runs familiar. It's the, you know, striped designated space for cyclists on the roadway. 179 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:16,060 Buffered bike lane makes that stripe wider, so there's more separation from vehicles. 180 00:15:16,940 --> 00:15:27,920 And the protected bike lane adds a physical barrier in that stripe space that physically separates the vehicle, the car vehicles from cyclists. 181 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:33,900 And then of course, the Shirties Path, which Naperville has a really great network up already, a lot of the trails along the river. 182 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:44,900 And through your towards-preserved space, our great representations of multi-use paths, wide enough for cyclists and pedestrians to use. 183 00:15:44,940 --> 00:15:49,400 So we're making some recommendations for more of those, filling in some gaps, adding some new connections. 184 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:55,460 There are a couple of locations where we have targeted improvements that key intersections 185 00:15:55,460 --> 00:16:00,640 that were brought up as really big barriers right now through the public comment and through 186 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:02,000 our evaluation process. 187 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:08,160 So right now we're looking at the Northwest quadrant of Naperville, our primary goal here was 188 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:13,500 to facilitate new connections across the river and improve north-south bicycle and pedestrian 189 00:16:13,500 --> 00:16:14,460 routes. 190 00:16:15,660 --> 00:16:19,640 Northeast, Aprilville is where a good portion of your destinations are. 191 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:23,700 Downtown is here, the metro station, some really great parks here. 192 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:28,240 We also heard during public engagement that can actually better connections up to 193 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:30,140 Denona Forest Preserve is really important for people. 194 00:16:31,340 --> 00:16:35,860 So, overall in this quadrant, trying to facilitate movement to downtown from any direction 195 00:16:35,860 --> 00:16:39,600 and also connecting to some of those great recreational amenities. 196 00:16:41,380 --> 00:16:47,720 In the Southwest quadrant, again, similar trying to improve connections to the parks and trails 197 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:48,600 that already exist. 198 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:52,500 And then we did hear a couple of times during public engagement that people living in this 199 00:16:52,500 --> 00:16:57,440 part of town felt a little bit isolated from the rest of Naperville, so we tried to kind of boost connections 200 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:02,620 for people to get out of this neighborhood kind of to the rest of town on the bike network. 201 00:17:04,380 --> 00:17:05,820 Lastly, the southeast quadrant. 202 00:17:06,360 --> 00:17:11,360 It's, again, similar story connecting to those great trails and parks and then just facilitating 203 00:17:11,360 --> 00:17:15,860 better north-sauce east-west movement throughout this area and to the rest of town. 204 00:17:18,010 --> 00:17:21,990 In addition to those infrastructure recommendations, we also have some policy and program recommendations, 205 00:17:22,890 --> 00:17:28,430 which we have kind of said whether or not it requires just some staff time or if it would be staff time plus materials to implement, 206 00:17:28,910 --> 00:17:34,190 whether or not it's like a one-time action or an ongoing program that would have reoccurring costs associated. 207 00:17:34,190 --> 00:17:41,130 And, most of these recommendations are not within neighbor village power or really doesn't 208 00:17:41,130 --> 00:17:45,410 make sense for them to implement alone, so a lot of them will be dependent on partnerships 209 00:17:45,410 --> 00:17:49,750 with the school district, the park's district, police department, local businesses, certainly 210 00:17:49,750 --> 00:17:57,650 trying to facilitate kind of everyone in the whole suite of jurisdictions and different agencies 211 00:17:57,650 --> 00:18:02,710 and community partners coming together to influence some things that will support walking 212 00:18:02,710 --> 00:18:08,850 by key more broadly on like a cultural level and to implement each other. 213 00:18:11,140 --> 00:18:17,380 Yeah, thank you, Steph. So the next step is to implement some of these recommendations, 214 00:18:17,780 --> 00:18:22,100 right? That's the purpose of this plan. We want to see some of these things get installed. 215 00:18:22,300 --> 00:18:27,240 We broke the recommendations down into short-term, medium, term, long-term. 216 00:18:29,300 --> 00:18:32,800 So you can start focusing on some of those short-term things right away. 217 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:43,880 This is, these recommendations do go through 2050, this is kind of a long-term plan, we don't expect all of this to get implemented right away, it's not practical, it's not possible. 218 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:54,400 And so the partnerships are going to be really important throughout this process because there are so many different agencies and organizations involved in order to implement some of these things. 219 00:18:54,400 --> 00:19:02,460 through some of our listed here, but also IDOT is an organization you're going to want to collaborate with and do page county and will county. 220 00:19:03,860 --> 00:19:08,700 You can see the price tag at the bottom, 54 million dollars of total recommendations. 221 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:15,240 Now this doesn't, this isn't expected to be all neighbor bill money or all local money. 222 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:19,220 And it's also not expected to be spent all at one time, right? 223 00:19:19,220 --> 00:19:42,380 We expect, and we, we talk about this in the plans, some, we give some ideas on how to get some funding to help with these, with these recommendations, federal grants, state grants, corporate grants, private grants, there's also an opportunity to create an annual fund dedicated to bicycle and pedestrian implementation, 224 00:19:45,010 --> 00:19:49,370 and the plan provides a more detailed list around some of those grant programs. 225 00:19:50,910 --> 00:19:54,490 So that's, let's, let's it, uh, can open up to questions. 226 00:19:56,310 --> 00:19:58,190 Thank you very much. Those are great presentations. 227 00:19:58,630 --> 00:19:58,790 Yeah. 228 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:04,840 I will entertain a motion to have a discussion on this item. Do we have a motion and a second? 229 00:20:07,260 --> 00:20:09,180 I'll make a motion. Mr. Strom? 230 00:20:10,020 --> 00:20:10,460 Second. 231 00:20:11,300 --> 00:20:11,740 Mr. Hurley? 232 00:20:15,150 --> 00:20:17,890 Do we have anyone from the public signed up to speak on this item? 233 00:20:20,510 --> 00:20:25,130 We do. The first speaker is consummate hallsar. 234 00:20:38,780 --> 00:20:43,520 All right. Good evening, and thank you everybody. Thank you all for volunteering, like the Board's 235 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:45,740 and Commission doesn't provide so much value to our council. 236 00:20:45,740 --> 00:21:02,480 It's really amazing and thank you for the wonderful presentation that you gave us and excited that our community is investing in bikes, which when you look at pure communities that we always compare ourselves to, whether it's overland park Kansas or Carmel Indian. 237 00:21:02,860 --> 00:21:06,480 This is one area where a lot of them have honestly gotten a decade or two ahead of us. 238 00:21:06,780 --> 00:21:11,860 And if we want to retain that status as best community in America, I think a lot of it is. 239 00:21:11,860 --> 00:21:16,740 going to be in the plan that you all formulate. So I look forward to seeing it. Very quick 240 00:21:16,740 --> 00:21:24,720 ask, I would hope that a note, a footnote, something like that, could be added to the report 241 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:31,080 that eventually goes to City Council. And specifically what I would like it to look at is what 242 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:40,960 I call kind of the missing mile. You know, we have this amazing bike connection to the Illinois 243 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:44,840 the top left corner of the screen, just off the screen, and then you also have this amazing 244 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:49,940 connection to the River Trail, which goes south, the South Naperville, but I've heard from 245 00:21:49,940 --> 00:21:54,800 a number of people and people in commentary have said that it's just not that safe getting 246 00:21:54,800 --> 00:22:00,620 between those two trails, so it does as it fragments the bike network of the city. A couple of weeks 247 00:22:00,620 --> 00:22:08,140 ago, a number of leaders in downtown Naperville, including the mayor, the head of DNA, the head 248 00:22:08,140 --> 00:22:15,300 partnership, the Downtown Advisory Committee. We took a walk and basically we went on the current 249 00:22:15,300 --> 00:22:21,220 bike path through downtown. And the part district was there too, I should say. And one of the 250 00:22:21,220 --> 00:22:29,060 main things we identified is there is city land that I'm sorry, not city land government land that 251 00:22:29,060 --> 00:22:35,400 could be available to potentially help cut out a good part or maybe even the most dangerous parts 252 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:39,780 that missing mile that, you know, it's just really hard to navigate a bike through the 253 00:22:39,780 --> 00:22:44,640 area, just to highlight a couple. The mayor actually flag this, but right now, you know, 254 00:22:44,700 --> 00:22:49,640 perhaps the most harrowing part of the entire bike network is right there at Orbera and 255 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:53,560 Eagle, just outside of City Hall, take a look at it if you haven't, you know, we have bikes 256 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:59,000 that are expected across lanes of traffic in order to get through. One idea the mayor had 257 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:02,720 was pushing traffic on Webster Street and on the sidewalk that runs right on the side of the 258 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:06,740 building, doesn't intersect with a river walk, that's something I hope we can get done 259 00:23:06,740 --> 00:23:08,700 maybe even before your report gets through. 260 00:23:09,060 --> 00:23:14,800 Some of these other paths, you know, there's a very long segment of parking lot. 261 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:18,300 It's an extended parking lot that's the overflow lot of Centennial Beach. 262 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:20,920 That's existing concrete that's already there. 263 00:23:21,340 --> 00:23:24,600 It's way wider than it has to be for the existing purpose there. 264 00:23:25,420 --> 00:23:28,700 You know, and we won on that walk, like I said, with the head of the park district 265 00:23:28,700 --> 00:23:33,960 And he was certainly very open to the idea of considering, you know, including bikes through there. 266 00:23:35,540 --> 00:23:39,920 So, I am not a civil engineer. Can I solve this all in a day or a week? 267 00:23:40,020 --> 00:23:42,220 Can we all solve this in a couple of months? Probably not. 268 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:46,240 But my one ass would be that it highlighted on the report that a lot of city leaders, 269 00:23:46,360 --> 00:23:50,160 a lot of city leaders were interested in this, including from the business community. 270 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,180 And thank you. I really appreciate it. 271 00:23:53,980 --> 00:23:54,560 Thank you. 272 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:58,400 Do we have anyone else signed up to speak? 273 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:01,040 The next speaker is Rick Hitchcock. 274 00:24:13,890 --> 00:24:15,790 Do I need to do that again? 275 00:24:17,310 --> 00:24:18,430 Oh, good. 276 00:24:19,470 --> 00:24:22,670 Also, I want some property in downtown Naperville, retired urban designer. 277 00:24:23,650 --> 00:24:31,070 And I've been involved with the Riverwalk since its inception as a consultant, as a commissioner, and as the chair. 278 00:24:31,550 --> 00:24:36,230 And now, as a advocate, or some might say in Ducense, I don't know. 279 00:24:37,410 --> 00:24:40,490 It's the first of all, congratulations, Deppstein. 280 00:24:41,090 --> 00:24:44,710 Awesome, thorough, terrific document. 281 00:24:46,910 --> 00:24:49,990 A couple things I want to highlight in limited time. 282 00:24:50,730 --> 00:24:53,890 There's a quick reference to the Riverwalk 2031 plan. 283 00:24:54,030 --> 00:24:57,050 It's important if you don't already know this. 284 00:24:57,350 --> 00:24:59,970 That for the first time in the history of the Riverwalk. 285 00:25:00,300 --> 00:25:19,160 There's two new sections of the riverwalk that are planned for the 2031 by Centennial of the City, 50th Anniversary of the Riverwalk, that will include multi-use, in other words, bikes in addition to pets, bicycle access on the riverwalk. 286 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:27,500 One is east of the DuPage River between Hillside and basically the old Cockroven property on the College of Side. 287 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:36,260 And the other is along Washington between Hillside and Martin Avenue where the South Extension is going. 288 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:45,780 There will be some bicycle or dedicated bicycle of multi-use path there in addition to the Riverwalk only path. 289 00:25:45,780 --> 00:25:59,580 So the report maybe should be tweaked to reference that because it says that bicycles are not allowed on the river walker, which is 100% accurate today, but in the future won't be entirely accurate. 290 00:25:59,580 --> 00:26:17,360 I agree with many, many, many of the recommendations, especially three, four, five, and six, are all totally solid, getting from the south to downtown intersection number two, which Councilman Holtzauer points out is just really nasty. 291 00:26:17,360 --> 00:26:23,100 and really encourage some creative thinking around city hall there to avoid or are I 292 00:26:23,100 --> 00:26:30,780 Avenue, which presently is just not set up at Eagle Street to accept, excuse me, 293 00:26:31,360 --> 00:26:37,660 cyclists, even a kind of modest capability, but certainly not families. I would 294 00:26:37,660 --> 00:26:44,960 also encourage the consultants and you all to have an open mind about opportunities as 295 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:51,400 from Holtzauer points out between the river where an intersects Jefferson and downtown. 296 00:26:52,060 --> 00:26:57,120 There's lots of really intriguing opportunities, some of which are also on the riverwalk 297 00:26:57,120 --> 00:27:00,500 and the river, I'm not representing the Riverwalk Commission, I'm no longer a commissioner. 298 00:27:01,300 --> 00:27:07,140 But I can tell you that the Commission is contemplating how some dedicated bicycle facilities 299 00:27:07,140 --> 00:27:13,700 might be incorporated into some sections of the riverwalk, not across the board, but in 300 00:27:13,700 --> 00:27:19,040 sections that really makes sense and what's on the board around the screen certainly makes 301 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:20,060 some sense. 302 00:27:21,340 --> 00:27:26,480 In summary, Purge Consultant discussed those opportunities that have been presented, encourage 303 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:32,140 city, you all, and counsel to prioritize bicycle facilities that are really important. 304 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:38,030 And make sure that the document references in addition to the other partnerships that are 305 00:27:38,030 --> 00:27:46,690 presently listed, Downtown Naperville Alliance, Downtown Advisory Committee, and Naperville Riverwalk Commission, 306 00:27:47,270 --> 00:27:52,510 because there are all great partners for some of these additional facilities. Thank you. 307 00:27:54,740 --> 00:27:55,160 Thank you. 308 00:27:58,170 --> 00:28:00,370 The next speaker is Katherine Clarkon. 309 00:28:07,060 --> 00:28:12,360 Good evening. I'm Katherine Clarkon, a Naperville resident founder of Accelerate Climate Solutions, 310 00:28:12,360 --> 00:28:18,360 and someone who regularly walks and bikes to work. During the summer of 2024, 311 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:23,440 interns at my organization did a deep dive on how to make our city more 312 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:28,580 bike friendly, culminating in a neighborhood bike, bike ability report. 313 00:28:29,420 --> 00:28:34,120 Regarding the plan being discussed tonight, I'd like to first comment on the 314 00:28:34,120 --> 00:28:41,800 costs. Average to over the period through 2050, this plan costs about $1.9 million 315 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:46,500 And as we heard, some of that is not coming from our tax dollars. 316 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:54,940 Compare this to the $12 million annually, the Naperville spends just to maintain roads for motor vehicles. 317 00:28:55,940 --> 00:29:01,280 And that doesn't even count, you know, unexpected contingencies or special projects. 318 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:13,140 The Riverwalk 2031 master plan will cost over $16 million in capital expenses, so these plans are cheap by comparison. 319 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,640 Sending, I mean the bike plan is cheap by comparison. 320 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:22,720 Spending on safe and connected bike infrastructure has many obvious benefits. 321 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:29,940 Imagine all the things that people love so much about the Riverwalk, extending city wide. 322 00:29:29,940 --> 00:29:32,660 but also with access for bicycles, 323 00:29:33,180 --> 00:29:34,880 wouldn't that make our city more livable? 324 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,380 My main concern about the proposed plan 325 00:29:38,380 --> 00:29:41,160 is that it doesn't go far enough to protect cyclists. 326 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,200 The safer it is to cycle, the more people will cycle 327 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:49,440 improving public health, reducing air pollution and congestion 328 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,600 and improving quality of life. 329 00:29:52,860 --> 00:29:56,240 So protected bike lanes are proven to save lives 330 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:57,320 and promote cycling. 331 00:29:58,140 --> 00:29:59,220 Unprotected lanes. 332 00:29:59,500 --> 00:29:59,960 Do little... 333 00:30:00,940 --> 00:30:07,000 There is not just one way to create protected by glints, there are cheaper alternatives that 334 00:30:07,780 --> 00:30:13,360 Naperville could consider. The threshold in the report for the speed of roads were 335 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:22,760 unprotected by glints are put is too high. Speed kills. According to the U.S. Department of Transportation, 336 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:37,740 A person walking hit by a vehicle at 32 miles per hour has a one and four chance of dying and it goes up as speed goes up a 50% chance of dying at 42 miles per hour. 337 00:30:38,340 --> 00:30:46,540 So please consider alternatives to unprotected bike lanes on roads with speed limits above 25 miles per hour. 338 00:30:46,540 --> 00:30:54,260 for intersections, solutions such as bike boxes, all directions stop, and no right turn on 339 00:30:54,260 --> 00:30:59,720 red. We're underutilized in the report and would make biking and walking safer. 340 00:31:00,580 --> 00:31:08,160 These could be implemented throughout downtown, for example. Finally, I have a lot of positive 341 00:31:09,660 --> 00:31:16,660 to say about this report, too, there's a lot of good things in it, and I'm excited to see 342 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:24,360 Naperville taking steps to create a safer, more connected community for people who are 343 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:25,380 walking and biking. 344 00:31:25,900 --> 00:31:27,540 Thank you. 345 00:31:27,660 --> 00:31:28,540 Thank you. 346 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:32,640 The next speaker is Bill Simon. 347 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:42,960 Good evening. 348 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:47,400 My name is Bill Simon, and I've been a resident of Naperville for 32 years. 349 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:57,800 I'm very fortunate to live less than 50 yards from Gardner Road, where the DuPage River Trail crosses Gardner and goes down south. 350 00:31:58,420 --> 00:32:07,280 My neighbor, Ginny, back in the chamber, she's even more fortunate because she lives literally across the street from the bike path. 351 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:12,540 And if you're going down the bike path, you can wave and say hi and chat with her just a little bit. 352 00:32:12,540 --> 00:32:15,500 But I have two messages for tonight. 353 00:32:16,860 --> 00:32:19,540 One is to think about the success of that bike path. 354 00:32:19,860 --> 00:32:22,560 You know, when we first moved in April, it was just a foot trail. 355 00:32:22,740 --> 00:32:24,060 It went down to Pioneer Park. 356 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:26,420 So my sons were little then. 357 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:27,620 We sprung down there. 358 00:32:28,020 --> 00:32:32,580 But now it's a hugely successful bike and pedestrian pathway. 359 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:34,460 And for runners too. 360 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:35,300 It's just amazing. 361 00:32:35,580 --> 00:32:37,340 So I don't have any quantitative numbers. 362 00:32:37,620 --> 00:32:39,880 But I can tell you that it is a huge success. 363 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:53,720 So, if you can take that kind of usage and that kind of accessibility and spread it across the city and give easier access for all the city's residents, it will be a huge success. 364 00:32:54,420 --> 00:33:06,340 My second message is about seasonality, because some people will say, oh, you know, it's too cold up here to be biking all year long, you know, you really don't need to be doing it all year long. 365 00:33:06,340 --> 00:33:13,660 And we're not Canadians and Calgary who do amazing, they commute into the city on mass, 366 00:33:14,020 --> 00:33:14,300 on bikes. 367 00:33:14,940 --> 00:33:18,140 We can have facilities that are used for most of the year. 368 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:24,320 We have plenty of facilities in different government entities that are seasonal, park district 369 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:30,060 fields, courts, pools, they're outdoors, we have a river walk, you know, it has a lot of 370 00:33:30,060 --> 00:33:36,240 usage in the summer time, probably less so on the winter time, but there's nothing wrong 371 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:41,860 It's great to provide a facility, you know, means for people to get around for most of the year. 372 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:42,860 So, that's it. 373 00:33:44,060 --> 00:33:44,840 Thank you. 374 00:33:47,300 --> 00:33:49,240 The next speaker is Justin White. 375 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:05,400 I think it was Justin White, and I've lived in April since 2006. 376 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:16,460 Approximately 10 years ago, a family member was hit by a car sitting on a bicycle at the corner at the light of 75th and Modf. 377 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:22,280 Thankfully, our story did not end in a fatality or a hospital visit. 378 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:25,160 Other families were not as fortunate. 379 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:31,380 Isabel Dima's humanist, Royal Gorge, and Ogden. 380 00:34:32,540 --> 00:34:40,680 Michael Ginsberg, former Naperville police cadet, Richard Neiman, senior citizen at 381 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:50,500 hospital, 2023, that Maria commuting from the Route 59 Meditation, a bi-commuter crossing 382 00:34:50,500 --> 00:34:51,540 Route 59, 383 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:59,380 unreported crashes, people who stopped walking or riding because they felt 384 00:35:02,290 --> 00:35:04,490 Those are the reasons why we're here. 385 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:12,460 Feeling of safety and confidence, those are things that were mentioned in the report by abstine. 386 00:35:13,060 --> 00:35:15,800 I think those are very, very important to consider. 387 00:35:18,510 --> 00:35:21,310 Speed. You have, there's a lot of good ideas in the report. 388 00:35:21,870 --> 00:35:32,370 Ted is aware of those ideas. Those ideas can be very successful if you recognize how much speed can impact the safety of a person that's walking or biking. 389 00:35:33,330 --> 00:35:39,690 that stat that's in his Clark and Gave is true. It's research. It's proven. 390 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:42,080 Access. 391 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:49,700 This map, the map shown by Epstein, the ones prepared by Ted, and tab. 392 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:57,240 There are certain parts of this community that do not have access. They cannot ride safely with confidence. 393 00:35:58,940 --> 00:36:02,740 So, the goal is more than a plan. 394 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,600 The goal is fewer names added to the list. 395 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:13,740 Thank you. 396 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:21,900 The final speaker is Ernest Oxen K. 397 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:23,040 Showed. 398 00:36:33,530 --> 00:36:34,850 My name is Ernest Oxen. 399 00:36:35,230 --> 00:36:39,970 I've been in April of a resident for over 20 years. 400 00:36:40,690 --> 00:36:42,330 I'm an avid cyclist. 401 00:36:42,710 --> 00:36:44,150 Unfortunately, I have a foot injury right now. 402 00:36:44,150 --> 00:36:48,650 But I just want to say, to me, the biggest concern, 403 00:36:50,210 --> 00:36:52,390 the whole downtown access is interesting. 404 00:36:52,930 --> 00:36:54,630 But I don't think that's an issue. 405 00:36:55,130 --> 00:36:59,890 I personally think that a big issue 406 00:36:59,890 --> 00:37:02,690 is speed differential between cyclists and cars. 407 00:37:03,210 --> 00:37:07,130 And I think we have a couple of issues in the city going north 408 00:37:07,130 --> 00:37:09,310 south on the east side of town. 409 00:37:09,910 --> 00:37:12,190 Naperville Road, that's been a chronic problem. 410 00:37:12,190 --> 00:37:15,930 There's no way to get north south in that area. We need to route there. 411 00:37:16,750 --> 00:37:26,150 Somehow, you know, either a path or some other cycling route through there with the access to cross the railroad tracks, the 412 00:37:26,150 --> 00:37:32,650 Prolincia and the railroad tracks. And then certainly crossing route 59 going east and west over there. 413 00:37:32,670 --> 00:37:38,070 That's always an issue. I just want to say in the downtown area, I have a big concern about these traffic 414 00:37:38,070 --> 00:37:44,370 coming measures that have been implemented that interject the cars towards cyclists that are 415 00:37:44,370 --> 00:37:49,810 riding on the right-hand side of the road or where the cyclists are interjected into the 416 00:37:49,810 --> 00:37:55,470 cars because of the curves coming back out into the traffic lane without a lane for the cyclists. 417 00:37:55,710 --> 00:38:00,210 I think this is absolutely foolish. These traffic calming measures where they narrow the road creates 418 00:38:00,210 --> 00:38:08,050 conflict between a vehicle and a cyclist. We need to change that that's completely, you know, 419 00:38:08,050 --> 00:38:14,050 creates conflict and that it's never good cyclists have issues with vehicles always there's 420 00:38:14,970 --> 00:38:17,070 small percentage of drivers that seem to 421 00:38:18,730 --> 00:38:19,090 enjoy 422 00:38:19,090 --> 00:38:22,250 creating danger for the cyclists and 423 00:38:22,250 --> 00:38:24,010 this creates conflict 424 00:38:24,530 --> 00:38:29,570 I'm trying to avoid conflict conflict and I think we need to look at these traffic calming measures 425 00:38:30,730 --> 00:38:33,530 in a way that doesn't 426 00:38:33,530 --> 00:38:40,170 interject the bikes and the cars into each other and either create a separate lane to 427 00:38:40,170 --> 00:38:47,150 the cyclists to get through the traffic calming method method method method or don't do it. 428 00:38:47,270 --> 00:38:53,070 I'll just say that there's right now in Jefferson Avenue just east of the river we've 429 00:38:53,070 --> 00:39:00,650 created this widening of the intersection that interjects the cars back into the cyclists 430 00:39:00,650 --> 00:39:07,830 staffs that are writing Eastern North, a Eastern West on Jefferson Avenue. This is absolutely 431 00:39:07,830 --> 00:39:15,770 absurd and I hope you guys take efforts to change that because we need to keep the cars 432 00:39:15,770 --> 00:39:20,310 away from the bikes. Thank you. Thank you. 433 00:39:22,970 --> 00:39:23,990 There are no more speakers. 434 00:39:26,370 --> 00:39:31,690 Great. Does the board have any questions or comments for staff for the public forum? 435 00:39:32,550 --> 00:39:40,090 have a question about the safety aspect of the report. Sounds like there's quite a few concerns 436 00:39:41,070 --> 00:39:47,930 from our residents about the safety aspect of the report. I also have a concern to add to that. 437 00:39:49,190 --> 00:39:55,990 I am very familiar with Quadron 3 on the map and there's a couple of sections along 438 00:39:55,990 --> 00:39:59,970 and it's made field neighborville road, where just like that. 439 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:18,060 The last gentleman was speaking about, there's a lot of variables with speed. There's a differential and speed between cars, doing 40, 50 miles an hour. People walking, people on regular bikes, people on e-bikes, and that differential and speed can become really hazardous. 440 00:40:18,060 --> 00:40:26,580 So, when you're exiting Conan Doyle, for instance, to pull out on to Plainfield Naperville 441 00:40:26,580 --> 00:40:31,920 Road, there's a bike path that runs parallel to Naperville Plainfield Road. 442 00:40:33,780 --> 00:40:38,700 And the peripheral vision when you pull up to that intersection is very limited, so you 443 00:40:38,700 --> 00:40:41,920 have a very small window of opportunity to not hit somebody. 444 00:40:42,500 --> 00:41:00,060 So those kinds of oversight kind of concern me when I think about safety, when I think about the addition of new speeds of these modes of transportation, I think that should be looked at a little more closely with the amount of money being spent on this plan. 445 00:41:00,780 --> 00:41:12,840 So that's just my opinion and part of it I agree with a lot of people here and it seems like there are some safety things that could be looked at a little closer in my opinion. 446 00:41:13,240 --> 00:41:14,080 Thank you. 447 00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:17,360 Mr. Hurley? 448 00:41:20,030 --> 00:41:23,510 Question for the consultants in first of all. 449 00:41:23,650 --> 00:41:24,710 Fantastic plan. 450 00:41:24,710 --> 00:41:31,350 blown away out the quality of it in the conference of this, but I'm curious from a guiding philosophy 451 00:41:31,350 --> 00:41:37,490 when building this was intended to be aspirational, the costs were funded, and that 452 00:41:37,490 --> 00:41:43,350 or was intended to be realistic, sociable, or somewhere in between. 453 00:41:45,390 --> 00:41:50,170 I think it was somewhere in between, I mean there's always there's elements that are fairly easy 454 00:41:50,170 --> 00:41:54,330 to implement, and then there's elements that are tricky because you have to coordinate with other 455 00:41:54,330 --> 00:42:02,230 restrictions or you have to somehow raise money to do the project so there are elements 456 00:42:02,230 --> 00:42:08,790 that are aspirational and that was the collaboration with the Ted Group as we were going 457 00:42:09,290 --> 00:42:15,990 throughout this plan it's like what are you willing to you know recommend so there was 458 00:42:15,990 --> 00:42:19,970 back and forth. I don't know. Mr. Pursa has anything to add. 459 00:42:20,710 --> 00:42:27,810 Yeah, I go up scenes comments on that. And to that point, yeah, I'm just going to 460 00:42:27,810 --> 00:42:34,970 elaborate a little bit more that along with jurisdictionally, you know, there's always going to be concerns when you're working with other jurisdictions. 461 00:42:35,310 --> 00:42:42,530 I'm kind of the need to be met for both parties and then also construct constructability is a big piece of this as well. 462 00:42:42,530 --> 00:42:49,610 There's a lot of right of way that is challenging throughout the city, so that's all part of the plan. 463 00:42:50,450 --> 00:42:57,530 And a lot of that's highlighted in the priority map that I've seen provided on, you know, that priority maps kind of, 464 00:42:58,450 --> 00:42:59,570 where do we have a lot of residents? 465 00:43:00,430 --> 00:43:05,350 Concerns and then also, what are those easy wins that we could get because of ease? 466 00:43:07,830 --> 00:43:08,150 Thank you. 467 00:43:08,150 --> 00:43:13,990 And just as a follow-up question, was there any guidance given on what the cap or max over 468 00:43:13,990 --> 00:43:20,030 this period of time should be or not to exceed, keeping in mind things like constructability. 469 00:43:20,650 --> 00:43:24,350 And obviously, we can't build space shuttles for everyone. 470 00:43:25,090 --> 00:43:25,830 Things like that. 471 00:43:25,910 --> 00:43:27,650 You're talking about a cap on the cost? 472 00:43:28,110 --> 00:43:28,310 Right. 473 00:43:28,410 --> 00:43:31,210 I mean, you could have come up with a plan that would be a billion dollar, that wouldn't 474 00:43:31,210 --> 00:43:31,630 be realistic. 475 00:43:32,250 --> 00:43:35,450 But what's their guidance given to you as to not to exceed for a period of time? 476 00:43:35,450 --> 00:43:39,230 I was just added to it from what the recommendations were and that's what the cost came up. 477 00:43:39,570 --> 00:43:43,770 Right. Yeah, there were no dollar values at the beginning that were given to us. 478 00:43:43,830 --> 00:43:45,450 The recommendations came first. 479 00:43:45,870 --> 00:43:47,570 The cost estimate came next. 480 00:43:50,470 --> 00:43:52,450 Just to follow up on the cost question. 481 00:43:52,610 --> 00:43:56,210 What's the current spending for vice-element pedestrian infrastructure? 482 00:43:56,990 --> 00:43:59,810 Is the overall 54 million is that incremental? 483 00:44:02,660 --> 00:44:05,740 Yeah, that would be something that would be. 484 00:44:05,740 --> 00:44:08,500 It's a good question, it's really hard to say, 485 00:44:08,580 --> 00:44:10,560 because a lot of this stuff will be intricate, 486 00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:15,360 instigated, integrated into our current CIP 487 00:44:16,060 --> 00:44:18,000 and other road improvement projects. 488 00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:22,460 So side path could be put into a road 489 00:44:22,460 --> 00:44:23,500 resurfacing project. 490 00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:27,800 And then we have a consistent pavement marking contract 491 00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:29,940 that does a lot of our bike and pet improvements. 492 00:44:30,140 --> 00:44:35,260 And that includes markings and the small amount of delineation 493 00:44:35,260 --> 00:44:42,960 we do have. So it's all incremental year by year, but it's tough to put an exact dollar 494 00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:53,600 amount per year. I will say the 2027 budget is not approved yet, but we do have a request 495 00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:59,960 in there to add money for feasibility study purposes from some of the plan element. 496 00:45:00,140 --> 00:45:03,200 That we are seeing here today. 497 00:45:05,020 --> 00:45:07,420 Thank you. Does anyone else have questions? 498 00:45:08,180 --> 00:45:12,140 I do have another one. How much of that budget is implemented towards safety devices like 499 00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:18,240 warning of somebody coming down a path or someone crossing an intersection at a 500 00:45:18,240 --> 00:45:22,280 bike path? Kind of like what we have near Springbrook path, over by 501 00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:28,180 with states where you can cross 83rd street safely by hitting the light. 502 00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:33,620 Is there any kind of indicators into the budget or any kind of warnings for people crossing paths? 503 00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:42,340 Yeah. So we have two funds that we pull from that are more related. We have nothing dedicated to 504 00:45:42,340 --> 00:45:49,460 bike and pad specific, but we have two funds that are for our traffic signal or traffic signal equipment 505 00:45:50,420 --> 00:45:59,860 That's the fun. Those are the funds that we pull from whenever we're adding any RRBs, or weekends, or recently a long Jefferson. 506 00:46:00,100 --> 00:46:05,800 We've added a lot of LED lights at our crossings and that's the fun that that gets pulled from. 507 00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:18,700 Is there one that senses somebody coming down on path so that if, like say you couldn't see, but you could see the light start flashing because it picks up most like a certain movement down the path. 508 00:46:18,700 --> 00:46:22,220 is there, are you familiar with any of those types of warning 509 00:46:22,220 --> 00:46:22,640 indicators? 510 00:46:24,060 --> 00:46:27,640 Yes, we have nothing, we have everything is push-activated. 511 00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:33,180 Within the city, we have nothing like that, maybe if 512 00:46:33,180 --> 00:46:35,800 when you're looking regionally, I believe in Greenfalley 513 00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:38,480 Force, was there a bowling brook, or that may be 514 00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:43,740 Lyle Township, has something like that along those trails 515 00:46:43,740 --> 00:46:45,640 that are crossing Green Road and Royce Road, 516 00:46:46,240 --> 00:46:47,020 but nothing in April. 517 00:46:47,020 --> 00:46:55,580 Could we consider a little bit more of that type of implementation along our bike paths where you have very risky? 518 00:46:55,900 --> 00:47:00,840 I mean it wasn't identified as a risky intersection, but I know this to be very risky here. 519 00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:06,580 I think that would be looked at a little closer to make sure that we're covering people. 520 00:47:07,420 --> 00:47:14,680 Of course, so part of this plan, not just recommendations that have seen as provided, they've also provided a school kit for crossings. 521 00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:23,720 And in that toolkit, there's a, for like, better words, tools for staff to look at on what type of crossing 522 00:47:24,780 --> 00:47:29,900 application we should be putting at certain intersections, and that uses speed of vehicles, pedestrian numbers, 523 00:47:30,140 --> 00:47:33,560 like this, and across history, all of that. 524 00:47:33,700 --> 00:47:39,400 Great. Thank you for explaining that as you know, I'm kind of new to this, but I think it's well worth asking. 525 00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:41,180 So I appreciate the time. 526 00:47:44,510 --> 00:47:45,610 Thank 527 00:47:47,690 --> 00:48:01,620 you, and regards to the feedback from the public is there still opportunity to integrate any of the ideas or recommendations for people are speaking today into it, or if not, 528 00:48:01,620 --> 00:48:08,080 procedurally what is the best way to your append, or make sure it gets considered as part of this process. 529 00:48:08,900 --> 00:48:10,540 So I guess that would be first to you. 530 00:48:10,900 --> 00:48:13,780 Is there a still room to, is it done? 531 00:48:13,980 --> 00:48:20,540 No more budget to amend anything in the report itself or their still room to do so? 532 00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:21,260 Yeah. 533 00:48:21,660 --> 00:48:31,000 So this meeting right now, you guys are receiving the report with the thought that any sort of direction recommendations 534 00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:37,360 any sort of comments from the public and then the board with them 535 00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:43,780 given to us and we work with Epstein to get back with the team and see if we can make 536 00:48:43,780 --> 00:48:48,280 a few more changes to this and then the goal is to come to the October tab with the 537 00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:54,260 report as a recommendation for approval for City Council sometime in late October 538 00:48:54,260 --> 00:48:58,920 early November. So these two tabs are those opportunities along with the City Council 539 00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:03,860 public forum for us to hear the public end of the board. 540 00:49:08,180 --> 00:49:09,440 Thank you. 541 00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:11,040 Just to clarify. 542 00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:16,240 So for the many safety concerns and the recommendations for this plan, 543 00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:21,540 as the city moves through the plan implemented over the years, 544 00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:25,520 the intention I assume would be to evaluate each segment 545 00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:30,360 as you're budgeting and allows for you to focus on that year, 546 00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:45,760 And you would re-evaluate the safety and crash the at that time and adjust, you know, if it's saying a bike buffer and now maybe that won't be appropriate 5-10 years now when the implementation actually happens is that 547 00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:52,240 That's one to make sure that's correct because there's a lot of things about safety, but we don't know everything, you know, in the future. So it's hard to say today. 548 00:49:52,240 --> 00:49:59,520 absolutely. Yeah, this is just a plan at this point. It is also important to understand that this is not a mandate. 549 00:50:00,530 --> 00:50:11,670 These are recommendations. The framework for the city of Naperville to use as the implement. There are other steps to be taken before their shovels in the ground, right? 550 00:50:11,670 --> 00:50:24,070 There's engineering that has to happen. More public engagement that we recommend happening before you put any shovels in the ground. So there's absolutely opportunities to be making tweaks to these. 551 00:50:24,070 --> 00:50:38,070 I'm going to elaborate a little bit more on another piece in the plan is also recommendation for staff to give a choice a year or update two tab on where we're at on the implementation of the plan and next steps. 552 00:50:38,870 --> 00:50:42,070 So there'll be plenty of opportunity for feedback through that. 553 00:50:43,130 --> 00:50:44,170 Thank you. 554 00:50:44,170 --> 00:51:00,310 And that just also wanted to touch on the downtown connections that we're discussed, is that something that can be looked at and I think in the planet currently says it's a bit open ended so I don't know if that's something that we want to refine a bit. 555 00:51:02,070 --> 00:51:09,250 More than happy to, so currently the thought, as has been mentioned, one of the large, 556 00:51:09,450 --> 00:51:14,430 one of the biggest resume concerns that we got was the connection from, for the debidure 557 00:51:14,430 --> 00:51:20,610 of a trail, once you get out onto Hillside, heading northbound, the Hillside, Webster, Aurora, 558 00:51:21,130 --> 00:51:27,830 Eagle, Jackson, and then getting back onto the trail at Jefferson, was a concern for residents, 559 00:51:27,830 --> 00:51:32,250 And that's highlighted in the intersection studies that are mentioned in the plan. 560 00:51:33,030 --> 00:51:33,910 But it is open-ended. 561 00:51:34,010 --> 00:51:42,010 So our next step is to do a feasibility study to kind of see what would be possible there. 562 00:51:42,390 --> 00:51:44,790 And given the comments from the Councilman and Mr. Hitchcock, 563 00:51:45,690 --> 00:51:49,970 we would take those into consideration for that plan and broaden the scope a little bit 564 00:51:50,530 --> 00:51:53,810 on just general or self-connection in that part of the downtown. 565 00:51:53,810 --> 00:51:53,810 Okay, 566 00:51:56,010 --> 00:51:56,810 thank you. 567 00:51:58,290 --> 00:52:00,730 Are there any other questions or comments from the Board? 568 00:52:04,380 --> 00:52:05,200 Here is no more discussion. 569 00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:06,380 I will close this item. 570 00:52:08,650 --> 00:52:10,130 The next up is Old Business. 571 00:52:10,630 --> 00:52:12,610 Does anyone have anything for Old Business? 572 00:52:20,540 --> 00:52:22,080 We have one item for Old Business. 573 00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:24,140 So as you guys know, from the last few meetings, 574 00:52:24,420 --> 00:52:27,760 we currently have our overnight parking survey that is still open. 575 00:52:28,100 --> 00:52:29,640 And it will be open through this September, 576 00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:32,960 through September 18th, which is the Friday two weeks from now. 577 00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:44,260 We are currently at 2,000 survey responses, which is a lot in the goals to summarize those responses and bring overnight parking recommendations to a future tab in the fall. 578 00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:47,240 All right, thank you. 579 00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:52,020 All right, here you know, more we'll close old business. 580 00:52:52,580 --> 00:52:55,740 Except as new business does anyone have anything for new business? 581 00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:05,280 All right, here you know, we'll close new business. 582 00:53:06,980 --> 00:53:09,620 I will now entertain a motion and a second for a moment. 583 00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:12,760 I will entertain a motion to have a question on this item. 584 00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:15,540 do we have a motion in the second to join this meeting? 585 00:53:17,290 --> 00:53:18,410 I'll make motion. 586 00:53:18,750 --> 00:53:19,190 Mr. Sam. 587 00:53:19,650 --> 00:53:19,970 Second. 588 00:53:20,490 --> 00:53:21,170 Mr. Hanley. 589 00:53:23,860 --> 00:53:25,280 Staff can please call the roll. 590 00:53:25,580 --> 00:53:27,700 All those in favor, signify of visiting I. 591 00:53:28,140 --> 00:53:29,260 Those opposed name. 592 00:53:29,720 --> 00:53:30,580 Mr. Schrum, I. 593 00:53:30,940 --> 00:53:31,420 Mr. Olga. 594 00:53:32,900 --> 00:53:33,460 Mr. Hurley. 595 00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:34,160 Hi. 596 00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:34,860 Mr. Nire. 597 00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:35,500 Hi. 598 00:53:35,720 --> 00:53:36,400 Mr. Webb. 599 00:53:37,620 --> 00:53:38,520 Mr. Kuzinski. 600 00:53:39,240 --> 00:53:39,360 Hi. 601 00:53:39,780 --> 00:53:40,480 Mr. Hanley. 602 00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:41,040 All right. 603 00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:41,660 Mr. Gang. 604 00:53:42,060 --> 00:53:42,500 Hi. 605 00:53:47,220 --> 00:53:48,940 And this concludes the September 3rd, 606 00:53:48,940 --> 00:53:51,420 2026 transportation advisory board meeting.