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citizens that want to speak. Yep. Come
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otherwise known as name and address.
>> James Caldwell

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writing and approval is still planning
open the air, but we should be getting

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to the end of that soon. Um, a
contractor is on retainer, so we should

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hit the ground running um as soon as I
can try to propose a little support from

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the city. So, uh, that's where we're at
with the Stellas. We're looking for a

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spring 2026 grand opening if everything
goes correctly. And uh I'm excited to,

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you know, feed the neighborhood.
>> Tell tell people what what the

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restaurant.
>> Oh, it's going to be a text. Um it's

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going to be at 1740 Nashville 1 right
here. Um between the Wendy's and the

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Five Guys and the Shell, uh the Shell
building that's been kind of vacant for

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a while. Um it'll be a 7,000 square foot
uh footprint on the ground level with a

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1600 ft² uh rooftop patio. Um looking
over into scenic space center. Uh it'll

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see the space center NASA proper uh the
new Aggie uh research building. Uh so

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it'll be a nice view especially for um
the galaxy lights. So I'm really excited

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about all that. So,
>> so just to be clear, the that brand new

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spank shopping center that's been vacant
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» Yes, sir.
>> So, that's all drafted, everything looks

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great. Um, got a LOI in place to kind of
hold it uh while I get the the finances

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figured out. And then once that's done,
we're giving keys.

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» And are you taking two of the five
spots?

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» Uh, I'm not sure how we broke it down.
We kind of did a custom footprint. Um,

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there are no walls set up in there quite
yet. Um, and I kind of came in and asked

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for a lot and they gave it to me. So,
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» it's about half.
>> Yeah, it's about half of the building.

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» Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, I'm thinking like
maybe three two or three. Um,

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» they're they've allowed me all the the
tenant improvements that I wanted to do.

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So, we will have [clears throat]
margaritas with a nice overlook. Um, you

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know, we'll have a nice outside patio on
the ground level as well as two as uh as

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well as two full full bars to kind of
service uh Nassau Bay and all the front

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» especially tequila bar.
>> Yeah. Uh so yes, it will be agave spirit

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forward tequila so tall meascows. Um
tons of fresh ingredients. So a tons of

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great frozen and on the rocks margaritas
as well as I'll have oldfashions and

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other prohibition era kind of cocktails.
That's kind of the the thing right now.

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So, absolutely, everything is going to
be fresh. Whatever I can source locally

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will get sourced locally. I plan to help
um bolster the Irma's farmers market.

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That's one of my first kind of big um
community outreaches is to kind of get

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that back to its glory days. So, I know
it's about, you know, infusing some

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money and capital in there. So,
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» Thank you.
>> Yes, for sure.

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Thanks, Chief. Uh, hello everybody. Pete
Seroka, 18226, uh, V Nassau Bay Drive.

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So, uh, what a year it's been. We're
coming to the end. We're in the home

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stretch. Can you believe that? So, uh,
it's been a, uh, a war for, uh, for me.

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Uh because um I had over the summer I
had a son get married in Seattle. That

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was very exciting. Then I had my
93-year-old mom pass away. That was sad.

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And then my beloved uh 13-year-old
Belgian Malininoa had a stroke couple of

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weeks ago and uh on a Saturday night at
midnight and that was fun. But uh she's

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still around for a while longer. So, uh,
but the reason I bring that up is

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because there is a new business that is,
uh, called the Gulf Coast Veterinary

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Services that is down near Costco. I
talked to the mayor about this and and,

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uh, they're the only 24/7, right? Our
vet works Monday to Friday, Dr. Huber,

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in League City that we've had for 30
years, but not open on the weekends. So,

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uh, they did a great job there. My my
dog Abigail was in there for uh for

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three nights. Uh it's unbelievably
ridiculously expensive. Uh so if you go

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there, the good news is is that they
provide the service if you need that. Uh

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the bad news is um I just don't know how
most people could could afford that.

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But, uh, you'll have to make that
decision. But, it is nice to see that we

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continue to have growth in the area and
businesses like that that are available.

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And so, um, so I bring that up. So, that
was number one. Another um, comment I

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had, I was just going to ask Paul and
Elas to see if we could get stronger

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communication on what's happening. The
city looks great looking out at the

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festival of lights out here and all the
flowers, all the good things that have

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happened. But then when I drive around
and I see all the construction that's

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going on and especially now that we're
we're a week away from uh from

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Thanksgiving and then Christmas and and
there you know Martinique and Nassau Bay

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Drive. I mean I don't know if it's water
breaks Paul or if it's the planned CIP

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improvements that we we really didn't
get on this year that we thought we were

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going to get on in the in the first
quarter to price it out. second quarter

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to take action. So, we got a miss on
that and I understand that's all going

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to roll over. But now, you know, now
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year and [snorts] um and I don't
understand what our plan is. And so, I'm

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pretty active in the city. And if I
don't understand, that means that most

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citizens don't understand what you know
what is really what's the schedule. And

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I keep asking, you know, is there going
to be a schedule that's going to go out

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for residents? And I hear yes, yes, yes.
But that hasn't happened. Once in a

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while you'll see a Facebook and it say
okay we're shutting water off on these

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streets but if we could tighten that up
that'd be you know the that that's a

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constructive crit crit criticism on that
Paul and you know take it that way

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[snorts] and then um I brought up at um
economic development council once or

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twice last year and at the city once
about the development of the Daven Lane

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lot to something productive for the city
and I know I've talked to Chase and Lucy

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about this and and the mayor. But, um,
you know, maybe now that we've gotten

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some of the major projects like, you
know, getting Margaritavville and some

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of the things that have taken tremendous
amount of time, maybe now we can focus

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on one of the last opportunities. I
mean, face it, we're not going to get

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another uh large waterfront lot.
>> Just warn you, you're you're 30 seconds

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past.
>> Okay. You want me to stop?

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» Just wrap it up.
>> Okay. So, I just want to uh resto the

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fire on that and put that in to see I
haven't I wasn't part of any of the

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budget meetings, so I don't know if
anything's been budgeted on that, but I

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would just ask that the uh the mayor and
council that you have uh conversations

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on that again.
>> Fair enough.

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» Okay. Thank you. Thanks, everybody.
>> Thanks.

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» Anybody else?

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I sat too far away from this thing. Good
evening. Um, my name is Jamie Roachcha.

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I live at 1419 Antigua with my husband
Andy. And I came this evening to

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actually speak to you about what's on
the on the screens right there. Um, I'm

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here to invite our mayor, our city
council, our staff, um, and of course

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our citizens to Nassau Bay's annual
Keyboards at Christmas concert. It will

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be held on Friday, December 19th at
Gloria Day Lutheran Church at 6:30 in

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the evening. Keyboards at Christmas, if
you're wondering what it is, is an

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incredibly unique, one-of-a-kind event.
We have six professional pianists on

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three Steinway Grands. We also have
special um guests from the Houston Grand

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Opera coming as well as our very own
Nassau Bay um children's. It's a it's a

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youth piano group that they come and we
spend the entire evening uh singing

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Christmas songs, doing doing our
favorites and some you may not even know

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that was even there. So we have an
amazing time. It is for families and for

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children. It is everyone is welcome. Um
you can see a lot of the information

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there. We have been working on this uh
the pianists have been meeting since

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September. So, you are going to have an
amazing evening of music. The tickets

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are free thanks to the sponsorship of
the city, private donors, and um

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businesses. We're able to offer those
for free. However, they are very

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limited. So, my suggestion is to please
go on, you can see that there's

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keyboards at Christmas-nasal
bay.com is our website. You can get to

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it there or you can just use your phone
and scan that QR code and go right to

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the tickets. Reserve your tickets now.
they're already filling up and um we are

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so excited to bring this annual
tradition back. We also have donors from

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the community and for those donorships,
if you're interested in don donating, we

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have several different packages you can
choose from and we absolutely have an

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amazing time. So, I wanted to say thank
you to the city, to the mayor, um and to

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our citizens of Nassau Bay who have
already stepped up on this wonderful

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event and I will see everyone on
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» I got to do a plug. Your students dress
out formally in black tie.

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» They do black tide. They buy their own
tuxedos.

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» Extremely extremely
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professionalism
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» Yes. [clears throat]
Yes, we are all dressed in

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Thank you. We're all dressed and dressed
black, but we welcome anyone driving in

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in blue jeans. It's totally fine with me
on that. Um, but we want to bring this

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to you because we have found in years
past that a lot of our younger adults

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and our children don't ever get that
kind of experience. This is a true event

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um for the community.
>> And I know it's up there, but in case

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people are not that way, please give the
date, time, location.

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» It will be at Gloria Day Lutheran
Church. It will be on Friday, December

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19th. If you're wondering what day that
is, that's the last day of school for

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the public schools here in CCISD. It
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there will be signs everywhere to help
guide you once you get there to the

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church. All you need is a ticket. Um,
you don't have to pay anything, but we

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do ask you to have that ticket because
last year we we were within, I believe,

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eight tickets of s selling out. So, I
really advise you to get your tickets

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now. Thank you. Thank you.
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Anybody else?
Any other comments?

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Going once, going twice, three times.
The citizens comment section is closed.

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Moving on to council amendment comments.

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» Um, not too much tonight. We did have a
really good experience at TML. I felt

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like we met a lot of great people,
experiences, vendors, so I really

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enjoyed that. And um I'll probably
elaborate on that more later, but that's

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all I got for tonight.
>> Uh let's see. Enjoying the weather in my

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retirement. Uh Lake Lake Nassau looks
great, so thanks to Paul and public

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works for uh tackling that. Um it was
kind of fun watching watching somebody

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mow
>> mow the water.

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» Mow the water. Yeah. For a while. So,
uh, my family, we've already enjoyed the

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pickle ball courts and then just hearing
already our citizens here. It's just an

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awesome time again to be in Nassau Bay,
especially heading into the holidays.

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So, I'm definitely looking forward to
the holidays, just kind of seeing all

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the cool stuff that's happening. So,
that's it.

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» Jace,

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» this is not working out well. Okay. Um,
so I just had a couple things. Um, I

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reached out to Paul Lopez not too long
ago. I'm sure you've all noticed that

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the streets have been painted, so the
crosswalks, the stop lines, the turn

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lanes. Um, so I reached out to him and
he uh quickly got that repaired. So I I

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really appreciate that. Thanks for all
that. Um, also still working on the

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curbs. Um, we had Clear Horizon students
come out uh this past week. Uh, we had

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about a hundred of them come out to do
some gardening. Uh, 50 of those ended up

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helping me with some of the curbs. So we
did Barbuda, Vaseline, um, Saxony, and

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Caprice. So, I went out on Sunday and
did Barbuda and Vaseline. Um, most of

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those houses, there was one house where
the car was blocking, so I couldn't do

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that one. Uh, but I'll keep going there.
I've also got some on, I believe,

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Antigua, um, Vinland and Martineique
that I'm also working on. So, we're

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getting through those, but I did about
15 of them on Sunday. Um, and then

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yesterday was Veterans Day. So, hope all
my fellow veterans had a great day. And,

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uh, thank you for your service.
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Over the weekend, some of the Christmas
lights fell into the street due to high

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winds. So, we were able to get those out
and I see sandbags on them now. So, um

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that's great. Uh city looks great. Um
and that's all I have.

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» This weather has been fabulous. Um
uh I'm deep in the throws of helping or

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planning the reindeer fun run. So, I'm
when I'm not here, I'm doing that or I'm

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doing my two other full-time jobs or
carting my kids around like an Uber. Um

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but um it's uh in we're ready to go. We
have a healthy competition between the

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local area schools. I think in crazily I
think that Ed White is edging out

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Robinson in the number of uh student
registrants. So we really do need to

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have the Nassau Bay kids start to
register so that we can't have Ed White

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beating out the [laughter]
beating out Robinson Elementary. That

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would just you know not be good. So um
and this year we've got a new job for

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Phil. Phil is going to be presenting the
check to the winning uh students. So,

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he's going to have a nice picture with
all the kids. And

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» you're taking the ear away from
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it.
>> I could give you a confetti uh thing if

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you'd like that. Um no, but what we want
to do is uh have him present the check

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to the school that has the most
registrants. Um this is a new thing we

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started this year and it's been really
great. So, um other than that, that's

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all I've got. That's December 13th.
That's the day when all the other things

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are on like holiday in the park except
>> keyboards is on a different day which is

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smart to do this year so we're not all
worn out by the time we listen to the

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piano music. So that's all I've got
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everything's been covered. Um I'm
excited for the holidays. Um I do want

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to just say thank you to all the staff
and volunteers. I know we've had a

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couple of, you know, recent volunteer
events at the CCISD um folks coming out

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and then also we had um Paddle, not
Paddle the Peninsula Peninsula, Paddle

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Lake Nassau or
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» Paddle Nassau Bay with Jim Stow. We had
a bunch of veterans come out. They had a

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great time. Uh great weather that day.
Um I know we have, you know, the

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reindeer fun run. We've got the
Christmas boat parade coming up. There

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is I thought Nancy Lyn would be here to
speak tonight, but um we will be having

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and it's in the newsletter a Christmas
tree lighting taking place in the

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gazebo. I believe it's on Wednesday,
December 3rd at 6:00 or 6:30. Um

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everyone is invited, so please come join
us and I think we're going to doing

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wreaths in here again and then also
followed by Christmas caroling. So we

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hope everyone can join us and happy
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» I've got a couple of things but it's
it's some of them are are around one

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theme and you've heard a little bit bit
of it. There's just a tremendous amount

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of work that I think you're going to see
is going to take the city to another

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level of beautifification. I can just
say thank you to the garden club and

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thank you to the CCISD and the parks and
recreation folks for fall sweep uh

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putting in here. I guess it's ex fall
sweep number two, but it was uh uh a

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number of different flowers were put in.
They were focused on uh uh Point

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Lookout. Uh they were focused on Upper
Bay Road and they were also at the

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entrance of uh of the uh the the big
park, David Braun Park. Just they it

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just a lot of a lot of things were done
there. And Chase, I think that was the

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biggest amount of of uh of uh street
painting or or the curb painting for the

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for the numbers.
>> They got a little ahead of me. I was

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like, "Guys, you don't need to do that
many cuz I'm going to have to come back

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and paint all these." But they did a
great job. There were 110 kids from

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CCISD.
>> 50 50% were with you doing stuff. So,

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it's like 50 55 kids there. 50 55 kids
helping out elsewhere. So, it it just

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showed what can happen with a little bit
of volunteer and uh and a crew of CCISD

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folks. They had a great time. So, the
the other uh got to give call out to the

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city staff on the painting. I don't know
if you've seen it, but uh a number of

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the crosswalks, a number of the uh the
area in the city has uh been painted. Uh

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they had been uh uh kind of lacking
because there's been some construction.

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There's been some different things. And
now that we're rolling out the street

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construction, we know exactly where we
can paint and where we're not. So, uh uh

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from that standpoint, you can see that
it just makes the city look better. And

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and again, that's the uh the road
construction you're seeing at at least

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three sites now where they're taking out
panels uh in the in the streets. We've

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taken a position that when we rather
than repair a specific spot, we want to

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take the whole panel including the
curves because it just looks nicer. So,

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you're going to see a whole lot of a
newer view once we get over what is it

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13 14 spots? Yeah, 13 spots that uh are
going to be done and they're good size

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spots. So, it's going to it's going to
just give that new feel with uh with

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there. And then you got to love the
galaxy of lights down Saturn, right? So,

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a lot a lot of really good things there.
Um [clears throat]

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I also want to mention uh James talked
about uh Estrada and a and a restaurant

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going in there,
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it's also the planning commission uh
reunited the separation of that from a

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from a two plat to a one plat property
in anticipation for Schaers going in

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into uh into that location. So besides
anything that Pete mentioned like around

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Margaritavville, we've got two
fundamental sitdown restaurants and bars

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going into uh to Nassau Bay which is
just going to be a real added feature.

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And then the last I always like to
really call out exceptional kind of

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activity is uh uh I think everyone's
aware we had four boats that uh ended up

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trying to be abandoned in the uh in the
cove and there's just a multiplicity of

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of call outs here. Um I'm going to say
the police did a great job. Uh, I also

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want to say there's the cruises uh that
that actually kicked it off and caught

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them in the action and communicated it.
So, we were actually there uh as the as

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this was unfolding, which was really a
key to us being able to to to do

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enforcement and as some of the things
for for tonight. But uh had we had we

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not taken uh action, we could have been
liable to have to dispose of four boats

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at probably I'm just going to guess
anywhere from 20 to 25,000 maybe more a

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piece. So you're talking a 100 100k
hickey to to the city. But because of

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good citizen input, because of good
response and uh and being out there,

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some even with a with people out at
12:30 in the morning. Thank you, Chief.

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That uh uh that ended up being uh a
really good answer. And I'm sure

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they'll, you know, we'll we can talk
about others, but that's I I want to

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make sure of that. And then um just the
last thing is keep uh Jerry Roth,

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citizen, in your prayers. He had a very
very serious accident and uh broke his

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leg I believe in six spots and uh is on
the on the on the way to uh recovery but

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it's going to be a a long haul for him.
So keep him in his prayers.

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» He won't be doing the reindeer run.
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» he'll still take us he'll still take
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» he still wants a t-shirt.
>> So with that that's all I had but I just

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there's going to be a really nice look
to Nassau Bay. It's already started with

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the painting and all the other stuff
that's going on. It's going to look

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really really nice and is continuing to
look nice. So with that I want to move

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on to the consent agenda. And with that
is uh um two uh two items on here which

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is A and B which is consideration and
possible action to approve the minutes

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of October 20th, 2025, the regular
meeting minutes and also the uh

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consideration and possible actions.
Second uh the second reading of the

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ordinance 20251020-1
of the city council of the city of

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Nassau Bay, Texas amending the code of
ordinances at chapter 20 utilities and

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services establishing water and sewer
rates providing details relative there

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too. Just so everyone knows with the
water rates they're not changing which

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is why it's on the consent agenda. Does
anybody want anything pulled off?

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Anything further comments,
modifications, edits? I do have some

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modifications. Sorry. Um so if you go to
um under the old business for the

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minutes um under number one 2 3 and four
um it listed as Mayor Johansson. So I'm

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sure that's supposed to be Johnson. Um
and then also under new business. Yeah.

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Under new business um same thing 1 2 3 4
and five need that uh that correction as

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well. Number six that was correct. Um
and then under executive session um for

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both the um adjournment into executive
session and the closed executive

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session, those also should be edited
from Joe Hansen to Johnson. So

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» there we go.
>> Unless we have a new mayor, which I'm

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not aware of.
>> Swedish twin.

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» Um I [clears throat] have an edit I just
saw as well under number four. Um check

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presentation to can be accepted by
Daniel Wilson and Spencer Carvajal.

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Daniel wasn't there. So I would say can
be accepted by Spencer Carbajal, uh,

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Jenny Castro, and Erica Berles. Those
were the representatives from Cani that

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were there that I remember.
>> Okay.

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» All right.
>> With those edits, I would move to

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approve the consent agenda.
>> Do I hear a second?

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» Second.
>> Second by Haley. Any further comment?

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Then I'm going to call for the vote. All
those in favor? Passes. 7 nothing. Okay,

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moving on to some things here. And just
just so everyone's aware, I'm going to

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be pushing this agenda. We've got a
actually a large executive session

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meeting. So, we're we're trying to
protect that so we're not we're not in

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uh for for a late evening. But Paul, I
think you'd like to give a council

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update on the uh the hydrillaa and the
algae in the uh in Lake Nassau on the

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waterways.
>> Yes, mayor. So, uh early last week, uh

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the contractors finished up the
hydrillaa removal. It was um right at

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128 cubic yards, which is about eight
dump truck loads. Um we will be

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monitoring it. Everything looks good. We
we looked at it actually last weekend. I

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looked at it Saturday. Uh it looks
really good. He actually came back I

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think uh Tuesday. And then we're going
to keep an eye on it and just see if it

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starts growing. And then we will try to
stay ahead of it. and I've worked out an

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agreement with them with uh a price per
day uh which is $1,950 per day for

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complete uh which is pretty cheap. So,
we'll be keeping an eye on everything

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and make sure it doesn't happen again.
>> The the mowing of the water I think was

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the [clears throat]
but everything I've heard from people

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said it it really worked well. I've
gotten some pictures of people saying it

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looks like the not the hydrilla side,
but some of the algae may be trying to

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grow back, but it's really from my
perspective extremely small. But that's

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that's we just keep an eye on it. Any
other questions here? Because I know

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this was a big thing on council.
>> Yep.

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Then moving on, the council input
discussion and possible action to

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approve and authorize the city manager
to execute a contract for cameras in the

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waterway and city parks. Paul, did you
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» Yes. So, we've [clears throat] had two
presentations, one by Vicotta and one by

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uh Flock System. And the four parks that
were covered was Howard World Park, Swan

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Lagoon, David Braun, and Founders Park.
uh Verata

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uh proposal came in at $69,844.
That's a three-year contract. That's not

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per year. This is a hardwire system. Um
and uh we've also had uh two

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fingerpr,856.81.

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And this will allow facial recognition
uh for um individuals um individuals on

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boats. And then flock safety came in at
31,500 per year which comes out to

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94,500.
Uh but that does not include the

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fingerpr
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um but they they will not do the facial
recognition. So if I remember in the

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presentation [clears throat]
apples to apples if you did include that

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ver uh verd uh or verade
>> a bott cannot pronounce [laughter] that

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um is about 20% less.
>> Yes sir.

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» Yep.

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» Any questions?
>> I suppose my question is kind of for

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chief. you know, with us already having
a flock system in place is does it make

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much sense to go in the direction of
another vendor or I mean it seems like

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you should kind of go with
what I mean, you know, with what we've

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got. I'm just costs are all fairly
equal.

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We we are familiar with Flock. We've
worked with them. We've worked with the

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uh their customer service already. Um
they're very responsive. I think the

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last time I gave you an example, we had
an issue with one of the flock cameras

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wasn't picking up the vehicles and they
were able to take care of that remotely

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uh before coming out here. Um
one of the

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the flock would be would would we would
remain with only two camera systems in

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the city. We have one system for the
buildings that's here of vigilanton and

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then we have flock which is the license
plate readers right now. Um and they

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would we would be adding on the live
camera system to the Flock platform

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already. Um Flock did uh reach out to
Paul and I last week um and and they got

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the approval to put in some additional
or some temporary cameras for a a pilot

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program if we if we wish to do that. So
um that that's an option.

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» I have two comments. um when Flock
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visibility in the camera shot that they
showed us um from way down the street

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that was still very visible if I'm
remembering correctly. I mean thousands

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of feet away. I think that was
impressive. The other thing I would say

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about facial recognition,
um I didn't hear how exactly uh they go

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about that with AI, but my understanding
just um with other experiences and work

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and things like that. The only way
they're going to be able to recognize a

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face is if it's already in the system
somehow. Um and so and I don't know of

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what benefit to you chief outside of our
jurisdiction would actually

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benefit in that um for us like
particularly. So, those are my two

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comments.
>> Yeah, I'll turn that into a question. I

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I really don't understand why facial
recognition is a discerner here

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personally cuz I feel like we're looking
for uh nefarious people. We're not

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trying to figure out when, you know,
James is jogging through the park. I

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don't really care about that. I don't
want to I don't want to even get into

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the legal ease of of having a system
that can recognize people's names. I

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just assume if you have a shot of
somebody, you can take it from there,

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right? And you can go attempt to
identify that person.

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» I disagree. Let me what what I guess I'd
like cuz I I think Paul had some things

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here. You know, one of the things that
facial recognition recognition does,

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like say we have a a pedophile or if we
have somebody we know who's there and we

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know those are people in there and if
they're down in the parks by the

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children's books areas or things like
that, we would have absolute knowledge

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of of that going on which is if you let
me and things here. The second is with

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the boats in particular this this
goaround. The big part was that we

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actually caught them in the act and we
were able to identify them. If we don't

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have a system to do that, those and I if
I were to say if th if that had happened

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at 3:00 in the morning and we just
discovered those boats in the morning,

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they would have been abandoned. we
wouldn't have anything and we wouldn't

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have any any type of ability to even
correspond with the owner to the facial

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to any kind of driver's license to be
able to to affect, you know, the the the

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perpetrator. So, in in my mind, we have
the guy now. If we even see him again

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out there with boats, we have the
ability to track that. I think it's a

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it's a major advantage for us to have
have that. And I I personally, it's a

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discriminator for me. And I also look at
the cost is I I don't want us to compare

396
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:51,839
94 to 89 or 95 to 89 or 90 because
that's not the same number of of uh of

397
00:50:49,599 --> 00:50:58,480
uh actual cameras. It's it's actually
about 25% less 20 25% less for the

398
00:50:55,359 --> 00:51:05,520
Vicada. So I I really like those those
aspects. And the hard wire part too

399
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:10,319
which is uh the you know the the flock
system is going to be solar. So any

400
00:51:08,319 --> 00:51:16,240
anything in regards to power anything
along that line and any winds is we've

401
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:20,880
seen we've had issues with that. So my
my view is is having it hardwired having

402
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:27,520
it in there. It allows for the
integrity. Uh it's it's cheaper and it

403
00:51:24,240 --> 00:51:31,839
has more uh scope. I even believe if I
remember with the flock they had trouble

404
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:39,200
with some of the distance ones. The the
actual the actual precision of and the

405
00:51:35,839 --> 00:51:44,079
distance for reading even license plate
was better with verda verkad than with

406
00:51:42,079 --> 00:51:50,160
the flock system. And and in the
demonstration I also picked up that it

407
00:51:46,559 --> 00:51:56,480
was they it had trouble you know uh uh
sinking in real quickly. The ver vicad

408
00:51:53,119 --> 00:52:03,680
system was much quicker. So I I I
believe it's it's a major

409
00:51:59,359 --> 00:52:08,559
uh decrease in capability for the city
by going the flock system versus cate

410
00:52:06,240 --> 00:52:13,520
and I I actually wonder if it even says
we may even want to move to to that in

411
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:19,920
in further activities because it is it
is things we are going to need.

412
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:25,119
So, I like the flock LPR system because
it does coordinate or talk to other

413
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:27,920
areas around here. And does
>> I think there's a huge advantage to

414
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:31,520
that. But I was very impressed with the
Vicata system when they came. And I know

415
00:52:30,240 --> 00:52:35,599
» it's a little unfair cuz they came
first, but they came, they came strong,

416
00:52:33,599 --> 00:52:39,520
and I was extremely happy with what they
did. And then when I saw the price

417
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:44,160
comparison, to me it was a a better deal
for something that I was impressed with.

418
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:46,400
So, financially, Vicotta made more sense
to me. I'm still

419
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:51,040
» the only the only other thing I'll add
in for council is um [clears throat] the

420
00:52:48,559 --> 00:52:56,800
verata cameras once that that's a
purchase of those cameras. The flock is

421
00:52:54,240 --> 00:53:00,319
a subscription service. If we have a
camera that goes down that they they'll

422
00:52:58,319 --> 00:53:04,319
replace it. If they upgrade their
systems, all our cameras get

423
00:53:01,599 --> 00:53:07,040
automatically replaced um without an
additional fee. Do

424
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:10,640
» you just are you recommending flock
without the you know and that you don't

425
00:53:08,559 --> 00:53:13,200
you don't want the facial recognition?
>> I don't know anything about the facial

426
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:16,319
recognition. And I don't know what the
database is where they're getting the

427
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:19,440
facial recognition. I don't I don't know
the legalities. Um

428
00:53:17,839 --> 00:53:23,520
» but you're saying you'd recommend that
the additional cost for the flock over

429
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:26,640
the ver recod system.
>> I I would like to see I would like to

430
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:31,280
see us take the advantage of putting the
flock system in and seeing how that

431
00:53:28,559 --> 00:53:37,599
works in our Councilwoman Summer was
talking about the um the accuracy and

432
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:40,960
the clarity. if we had those in our in
our city to see how they're actually

433
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:45,680
working like as as we do with the Vicata
that we would have a comparison.

434
00:53:42,559 --> 00:53:52,160
» Paul, do you you share that?
>> Um, well, Steve mentioned that uh Flock

435
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:59,440
asked if they could put uh the pilot
system, but uh the the one key thing is

436
00:53:55,599 --> 00:54:05,200
the facial recognition. It's it's I
would say it can track if like the mayor

437
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:09,440
said if we have a pedophile that's
we know pedophile or someone stalking

438
00:54:07,359 --> 00:54:14,079
somebody soon as they hit our parks we
will know uh we will get a hit that they

439
00:54:12,079 --> 00:54:20,400
are in our parks and I think that was
one of the the big key things uh as far

440
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:22,480
as the legalities I don't know um or but
um

441
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:25,760
» so so we know Verata has that
information

442
00:54:24,240 --> 00:54:28,400
» we know they have a database of
pedophiles and their names. No sir. No

443
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:32,319
sir.
>> Well then how's I think I'm trying to

444
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:35,200
figure out are we talking technology or
the ability to actually put a name to a

445
00:54:34,079 --> 00:54:39,920
face.
>> Not a name just the face but not the

446
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:41,760
information or the person.
>> You can't put a name to the face then

447
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:45,839
they can't find a
>> ricotta hasn't talked to me about how

448
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:48,640
they identify somebody what database. So
that that'd be something I'd like to

449
00:54:47,119 --> 00:54:51,839
research with them a little bit further.
Also the legalities of if we identify

450
00:54:50,720 --> 00:54:55,599
somebody in the charges
>> they will not provide it.

451
00:54:52,880 --> 00:55:01,200
» Flock will not flock will not. But once
you have the footage, you can then go do

452
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:06,880
facial recognition. You can put it in a
in a in a in a safe legal system to go

453
00:55:04,319 --> 00:55:12,160
determine who that person is.
>> I also on the facial recognition want to

454
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:15,920
understand more about how they store
like for example you mentioned James

455
00:55:14,079 --> 00:55:20,800
running in the park like are they
studying my face my children's faces

456
00:55:18,240 --> 00:55:26,240
like what all is being stored and how is
it used? I worry about just security of

457
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:29,839
that in general.
Well, I mean, you're in public, so you

458
00:55:27,599 --> 00:55:32,800
have no privacy, right? So, you you
basically it's a one party consent in

459
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:35,920
the state of Texas. So, if you're in
public, they can they can take a picture

460
00:55:34,079 --> 00:55:39,520
of you. So, you can't argue with that.
Now, u my issues and kind of to talk to

461
00:55:38,319 --> 00:55:44,240
a couple of things that were mentioned
here. Um the cost. I I like that it's a

462
00:55:42,240 --> 00:55:48,559
little bit cheaper with Vera. Um also,
we get access to um the waterways like

463
00:55:46,720 --> 00:55:51,760
Phil was saying. Um having them at the
fingertips, having them at the cove, uh

464
00:55:50,240 --> 00:55:55,839
I think with the measures that we're
taking on the water would be important

465
00:55:53,119 --> 00:55:59,040
for us. Um, I did have an issue with
flock. They kind of rubbed me the wrong

466
00:55:57,119 --> 00:56:02,720
way. Um, because I went back and looked
at that specific location that they

467
00:56:00,799 --> 00:56:07,040
mentioned. He made a statement that it
was like 2,000 ft. It was about 950 ft.

468
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:11,040
Um, so it was about half the distance
and you're still not getting the

469
00:56:08,240 --> 00:56:15,119
quality. So I had a big issue with that.
Um, you know, and Lucy said that Betta

470
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:18,640
came first and they and they, you know,
came strong. I will say that they came

471
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:20,960
first and they came prepared. Um, they
knew what they were talking about. They

472
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:24,880
were accurate with their reporting from
what I could tell. um with the facial uh

473
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:28,160
recognition, like I said, you're in
public, they can take a picture of you.

474
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:31,680
Um now, I don't anticipate that they're
going to have a database with all the

475
00:56:29,359 --> 00:56:35,200
pedophiles and and people's names, but
if you have accurate photos of someone's

476
00:56:34,240 --> 00:56:39,760
face,
>> cuz we had an instance with a previous

477
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:44,880
council member, their child was, you
know, almost kidnapped at a park here in

478
00:56:42,240 --> 00:56:49,200
Nassau Bay. Um and if we had a photo of
that person's face, we could tag that.

479
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:52,640
Um, and then we could come back, if that
person came back to the park again, we

480
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:56,000
would be able to recognize that face.
And then great, we have flock system, we

481
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:58,880
can track the vehicle that that person
was in, and we can see if that person

482
00:56:57,280 --> 00:57:04,240
comes back into our our [clears throat]
um our community. So, I think for me, I

483
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:08,559
I think more coverage um more safety for
the community um and more ability for

484
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:12,960
for the chief to have law enforcement
with regard to the fingerpove

485
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:16,480
um is very important to me. I would I
would personally like to see Vicada.

486
00:57:14,799 --> 00:57:21,440
It's great that, you know, Flock would
be a system that we already have. Um,

487
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:24,240
but I don't want to just go with the
system that we know. I' I'd rather go

488
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:30,559
with the system that I believe is
better. So, that's that's my two cents.

489
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:33,920
» My two cents here. Um, I know we've
covered a lot, but like Chase said, I

490
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:37,280
think Bata was definitely the front
runner. They did come prepared. Um, I do

491
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:40,880
like the facial recognition feature. The
fact that we had these boats out in the

492
00:57:39,119 --> 00:57:44,880
um the cove, I think that would have
come in extremely handy. Um, and then

493
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:47,599
from a cost perspective, I and we're not
locked into this for life, so it's a

494
00:57:46,319 --> 00:57:50,480
three-year contract. If we get in there
and we don't like it, we can always have

495
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:54,799
the ability to change. But to me,
Barcata was a clear front runner. My two

496
00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:57,920
cents.
>> Any other comments?

497
00:57:56,240 --> 00:58:01,760
» And then we have to remember about flock
that there's many other communities that

498
00:57:59,599 --> 00:58:06,400
also have flock. And so when there's a
perpetrator in another community, you

499
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:09,440
know, our our flock system will pick up
if they're if this perpetrator is in our

500
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:13,119
community. Whereas
>> we'll still have that. Yeah, we'll still

501
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:16,400
have that through
>> just not just not in the parks in the

502
00:58:14,799 --> 00:58:20,079
areas. We're still having a flock,
>> right? We still have the flock, but I

503
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:22,319
like I guess we won't have all the I
don't know the additional system. I

504
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:25,040
don't know if that makes a difference or
not, but

505
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:30,000
» I I don't I don't I don't think that the
uh different agencies share information,

506
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:31,920
share the live videos,
>> okay,

507
00:58:30,319 --> 00:58:34,720
» like they do the the license plate
reader programs, okay,

508
00:58:33,359 --> 00:58:40,079
» um that shared because those are put in
the hot list and when those numbers come

509
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:44,240
up. Um, so I I it's it's it's not
operating the same with with respect to

510
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:46,319
sharing the information across the other
agencies and the other departments and

511
00:58:45,839 --> 00:58:49,200
stuff.
>> Okay. And Paul, I'm sorry you've been

512
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:54,000
speaking very close to the microphone. I
didn't hear what you said as far as like

513
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:59,200
the cost of what's the total cost of
>> uh you should have a put a packet on

514
00:58:56,400 --> 00:59:05,400
your desk. So the the total cost for
Vicotta

515
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:05,400
with the four parks only is $69,844.85.

516
00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:13,000
uh to include [music] the Nassau Bay
Cove and the fingerprints is $89,856

517
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:23,440
and flock safety for per year is 31,500
which come out to 94,500

518
00:59:21,359 --> 00:59:27,280
for the three-year period.
>> Apples include the waterways,

519
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:30,640
» but that does not include the waterways.
>> I was disappointed that they didn't come

520
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:32,319
with that as a full scope of the
project. Did

521
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:37,040
» did we ask them?
>> We did. Have haven't we had these

522
00:59:34,799 --> 00:59:38,720
vericotta cameras up for like a couple
months now?

523
00:59:38,079 --> 00:59:43,280
» Yes, ma'am.
>> And how how are we liking them?

524
00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:48,160
» Uh so far they're good. I've been
sending uh council uh video footages and

525
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:52,960
and good okay
>> uh pictures and stuff. I mean

526
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:58,079
» uh everything that I've reviewed I mean
it looks good.

527
00:59:56,240 --> 01:00:01,040
» And Paul didn't Aren't there surrounding
cities that are using the ricotta system

528
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:08,400
already?
>> Yes. just uh I believe he's working with

529
01:00:03,599 --> 01:00:13,839
Webster um I think Harris County parks
um uh there was like 10 surrounding

530
01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:18,000
surrounding parks beautiful cities I
have them off the top of my head yes

531
01:00:15,119 --> 01:00:20,480
ma'am
>> any other comments

532
01:00:19,359 --> 01:00:24,960
» yeah I would just like to caution
council about the facial recognition

533
01:00:22,079 --> 01:00:30,000
just because whatever Varcata's facial
recognition is um in identifying a

534
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:33,520
vehicle or a boat or whatever and there
there's going to be some legality issues

535
01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:37,359
that that I'm not familiar with because
those are one of the reasons that Texas

536
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:42,160
did away with the red light cameras. Um
because we have to we have to personally

537
01:00:39,599 --> 01:00:46,640
identify the person who's operating the
vehicle or the boat or the vessel or

538
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:50,960
whatever. Um and I'm not sure that
facial recognition substitutes for that.

539
01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:53,839
Um I I don't know if Mr. Greg has any
experience in that or not, but

540
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:57,119
» if I could just make a comment on that.
I think that the issue with the red

541
01:00:55,520 --> 01:01:00,160
light cameras were like you said, we
didn't know who was driving those

542
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:03,040
vehicles. um it may have been registered
to somebody, but you don't necessarily

543
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:05,680
have a photo of them. Facial recognition
is a little bit different in that it's

544
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:09,599
not your vehicle. It's literally your
face. Um unless there is some kind of

545
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:11,920
like mask or something that they're
trying to put on, [clears throat] which

546
01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:16,000
I would imagine you would likely be able
to tell um through a facial recognition.

547
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:22,680
So, I mean, that would be my my
counterargument to the red light camera

548
01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:22,680
being a comparable situation.

549
01:01:23,839 --> 01:01:28,799
» Any other comments?
>> I guess I'd just like to ask, Mr. Greg,

550
01:01:27,359 --> 01:01:32,240
do you do you have any opinions on
facial recognition or any of that stuff?

551
01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:36,880
» I haven't had a chance to look at it. I
I don't know. I'm sure there be some

552
01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:39,920
issues, but it sounds it sounds to me
like it's distinguishable, but I'm not

553
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:43,839
sure.
>> But we I mean, if there was something

554
01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:47,240
that there you could always turn it off.
It's still cheaper.

555
01:01:47,359 --> 01:01:53,520
» Well, then any other comments? Any other
>> Yeah, just just it it says it will allow

556
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:57,599
for it. So, like what you said, I would
imagine we could turn off that feature.

557
01:01:55,040 --> 01:02:01,559
» Yeah.
Then I'd ask for a motion.

558
01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:07,920
» I would move to approve and authorize
the city manager to exe execute a

559
01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:12,880
contract for cameras in the waterways
and city parks with Vicada.

560
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:16,480
» Do we hear a second? Second by Ashley.
Any other comments?

561
01:02:15,119 --> 01:02:19,799
I'm going to call for the vote. All
those in favor?

562
01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:26,960
All those not?
>> Passes four to three.

563
01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:38,480
Okay, next is the
uh council input and discussion and

564
01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:43,200
possible action. Uh this is probably
more for discussion, but uh regarding

565
01:02:40,319 --> 01:02:47,760
emergency response on the waterways. You
know what, this is something Paul and I

566
01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:51,119
wanted to put on this because it was
really wanted to get the feel from from

567
01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:57,359
council.
One of the things that was probably the

568
01:02:54,400 --> 01:03:03,920
most frustrating is having people
continue to do activities out on the

569
01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:09,280
water and our ability to, you know, our
lack of ability to be able to do

570
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:13,040
anything. I mean, uh, uh, there was some
some ability to try to do with

571
01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:18,079
spotlights or anything like that, but
but they kept proceeding even though we

572
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:22,000
had police out there with with Q beams
and doing stuff. It was just it was even

573
01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:25,760
there I even asked talked to one of the
officers and they they were there saying

574
01:03:24,319 --> 01:03:28,960
well there's we don't we don't have
anything we don't want to bring the big

575
01:03:27,119 --> 01:03:34,640
boat out because of we've got to get
everything coordinated and we don't have

576
01:03:31,359 --> 01:03:40,319
anything to be able to actually respond
when we see something illegal happening

577
01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:44,880
on the water right in our waterways. So
the the question was and and this was

578
01:03:42,559 --> 01:03:49,760
also for for the chief, you know, what
are things that we should be looking at

579
01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:54,880
to see how we can respond other than
bringing out the big safety boat and uh

580
01:03:52,799 --> 01:03:59,200
and and that because that takes that
takes, you know, time and it's also a

581
01:03:56,880 --> 01:04:02,799
big expense and it usually relies on our
our volunteer fire department. What are

582
01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:08,119
what are some of the things here? Paul,
I don't know if you wanted to add

583
01:04:04,319 --> 01:04:08,119
anything to that or

584
01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:18,000
» um it it was mentioned about uh drone a
drone uh possibly. Um I'm reaching out

585
01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:24,319
to some some companies to see if that's
something they could look at. Um I know

586
01:04:20,799 --> 01:04:29,359
the surrounding cities are looking at uh
some things on the water also. uh what

587
01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:34,880
kind of what is say
>> some some other cities are looking at

588
01:04:31,119 --> 01:04:39,039
some type of uh the vessels and and what
to do about different types of things.

589
01:04:36,559 --> 01:04:44,480
So um it's it's a big discussion with
the other cities right now. Um but you

590
01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:49,200
know one is is maybe a possibly uh if
this is something that we want to

591
01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:53,920
discuss and budget uh uh to purchase
another boat or a drone or something

592
01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:58,079
like that. I mean,
>> any any any thoughts here from

593
01:04:55,839 --> 01:05:03,359
» what does a drone bias? Can we use drone
footage for is that illegal?

594
01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:07,440
» That that's something that uh they're
looking into right now. A company I'm

595
01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:12,559
working with is looking into it cuz it's
kind of new. Uh not the drone, but the

596
01:05:10,559 --> 01:05:16,880
footage and you know, if it's going to
be some kind of lights and then the you

597
01:05:14,559 --> 01:05:19,280
know have to get you from the manpower,
how that's going to work out and all

598
01:05:18,559 --> 01:05:24,160
that. So,
>> but I mean I mean I what I don't

599
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:31,119
understand with a drone is I I I get
certain parts of it which is you're no

600
01:05:27,039 --> 01:05:35,920
longer standing at the edgeway. You
actually have a tool that would put you

601
01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:42,160
within 10 ft, right? But it's still
cameras. It's still things like that.

602
01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:46,559
You could have a a a verbal exchange. I
don't know if that buys anything for for

603
01:05:44,079 --> 01:05:49,839
you from this. I I I think it could, but
I I don't know.

604
01:05:51,119 --> 01:05:55,760
I have I don't I don't know, mayor, and
I'll be honest with council. This is

605
01:05:54,079 --> 01:06:00,799
first I'm hearing a discussion about
having a drone and using it for anything

606
01:05:57,359 --> 01:06:04,319
like that. Um hasn't been discussed. So
again, we'd have to be looking at

607
01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:07,760
legalities, how things operate. I will
tell you that the incident the other a

608
01:06:06,319 --> 01:06:11,760
week and a half ago, two weeks ago,
whatever it was, um that night there

609
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:15,520
[clears throat] was a there was a a cold
front coming through the northern um I

610
01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:19,920
did talk to Tom George and he and I made
the decision for officer safety and the

611
01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:24,000
fire to p personnel safety. There was no
life or or limb endangerment going on

612
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:27,440
out on the waters at that time for us to
put the water in

613
01:06:24,799 --> 01:06:30,559
» sledgehammer for for drivers.
>> So yeah, so I mean we made the decision

614
01:06:29,359 --> 01:06:34,000
we weren't putting the boat in the water
for off for the safety of our personnel

615
01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:37,200
to go out there. I mean, look, look at
what happened last week just over in

616
01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:40,559
Texas City. They, you know, they were in
a life and death situation with a boat

617
01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:43,280
out in the water. Same situation up
front coming through and they lo they

618
01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:47,599
had their boat overturned and they had
six firefighters go in the water that

619
01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:51,039
ended up in the hospital. So, for that
decision, you know, that was our

620
01:06:48,799 --> 01:06:54,720
decision as an operational thing that
that it wasn't worth just to find out

621
01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:58,720
who's out there with the boats. We had
identified those boats previously. I'd

622
01:06:57,039 --> 01:07:02,480
been working with those boats, at least
the big blue one, since October the 8th.

623
01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:06,240
So, this was something that we were
going on. We already had identified or

624
01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:10,799
thought we had identified the owners of
that boat. Um, then the other three

625
01:07:08,079 --> 01:07:14,319
boats came up. We actually um I did end
up coming out at midnight, 12:30 in the

626
01:07:12,640 --> 01:07:18,400
morning. Sergeant Bane was already
talking to the wife of the uh because we

627
01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:22,000
had the information on the on the van.
Um he was talking to the wife of the

628
01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:25,760
gentleman who was on the boat. We spoke
with him by speaker phone, identified

629
01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:28,880
him and all three of the um boats that
were there. I went over to his house the

630
01:07:27,359 --> 01:07:32,640
next morning, talked to him, advised him
about our city ordinance that boats

631
01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:36,079
needed to be moved. Of course, the water
was going down. He was able to get one

632
01:07:34,319 --> 01:07:39,599
of those out by Wednesday evening.
Obviously, Thursday, if anybody went out

633
01:07:37,599 --> 01:07:42,880
there and looked to the bigger boat was
still in the water, the other two boats

634
01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:47,200
were laying on their side because they
were basically beached because the water

635
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:50,799
was so low. Um, but once that water rose
next morning on Friday, again, I asked

636
01:07:49,520 --> 01:07:53,599
him for a timeline. He didn't give us
timeline, went out there, we filed

637
01:07:52,000 --> 01:07:57,520
charges on him, and those boats were
moved by that evening. But but we also

638
01:07:55,440 --> 01:08:02,160
know that one of those boats is on the
creek side now. It's in Galveston

639
01:07:59,920 --> 01:08:05,520
County. It's not in our jurisdiction,
but that's that's what kind of no man's

640
01:08:03,839 --> 01:08:07,920
land and it's still and it's still
there.

641
01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:12,160
» Yeah. It's kind of in in that no man's
land triangular area over there.

642
01:08:09,839 --> 01:08:17,920
» So, and and that's outside our
jurisdiction and I know that uh Lake

643
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:24,080
City is looking at spearheading some
kind of talks with all of the uh

644
01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:29,120
agencies and cities around the lake. My
my suggestion here would be I mean you

645
01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:32,960
you you've made it you've expressed it
you know concern like with a jet ski or

646
01:08:31,359 --> 01:08:35,920
something like that particular if only
one officer goes out there that there's

647
01:08:34,799 --> 01:08:39,440
safety issues there.
>> Absolutely.

648
01:08:36,480 --> 01:08:44,640
» Right. I get that. You know, I I also am
very concerned that, you know, with, you

649
01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:49,679
know, regardless even those the safety
things there, I have I' I've crossed the

650
01:08:47,839 --> 01:08:55,600
bridge where I I really don't want to
put our volunteer fire department out in

651
01:08:52,319 --> 01:08:59,359
enforcement type activities, too. I I
think that's really putting them in a

652
01:08:57,199 --> 01:09:05,120
place we don't want them. That's not
their role. That's not their job. So

653
01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:09,520
just just like you know we did with the
with the uh the cameras and things like

654
01:09:07,679 --> 01:09:13,600
that for the vandalism that we saw in
the parks we came here. Can can we ask

655
01:09:11,920 --> 01:09:17,839
you to kind of like look at that
benchmark what other people are doing

656
01:09:15,359 --> 01:09:22,319
because you know there's there's nothing
more frustrating for you know I'll say

657
01:09:20,080 --> 01:09:26,560
for me to see your guys out there trying
to flag down and people flipping you

658
01:09:24,239 --> 01:09:32,080
guys the bird saying you know you can't
get me and and we we we have to have

659
01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:36,960
something better than than that than
just Q beams from the side. We I I can

660
01:09:35,359 --> 01:09:41,679
check. I know League City's looking at
in

661
01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:47,279
enhancing their enforcement, but 90% of
what they're looking at is within their

662
01:09:43,839 --> 01:09:49,679
marinas and uh not necessarily out in
the middle of the lake or out in the

663
01:09:48,480 --> 01:09:52,719
middle of the cove or out in the middle
of the creek. They're dealing with

664
01:09:51,199 --> 01:09:56,320
they're dealing with other issues within
their marinas. I know Seabbrook has

665
01:09:54,400 --> 01:10:01,120
issues with th you know, with people
living on their boats out there that are

666
01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:04,239
anchored out there off of Seabbrook and
and and that's a big problem. And I've

667
01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:05,679
talked to the chief over there and Well,
they don't have they don't have an

668
01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:10,239
answer for that.
>> I would really like from the police

669
01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:15,920
perspective just to say if we you know
what would we need to be able to enhance

670
01:10:12,320 --> 01:10:20,480
our ability to intervene and and be able
to do things if we particularly if we

671
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:24,000
see something that needs immediate, you
know, immediate response. You know, you

672
01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:28,239
can talk about if there's, you know,
just any reasons other than, you know,

673
01:10:26,159 --> 01:10:31,040
looking at at getting the the big boat
out.

674
01:10:29,199 --> 01:10:35,040
» We we can research it. Again, it goes
back to manpower again. So we have two

675
01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:39,040
officers working and not going to put
one officer out, you know, on a boat or

676
01:10:37,199 --> 01:10:41,760
anything by themselves. I'm not going to
take two officers off the street and put

677
01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:44,960
them on a boat and have nobody on, you
know, the rest of the city. So again,

678
01:10:43,440 --> 01:10:48,719
we're talking about a manpower issue
either also. So, but we can we can

679
01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:51,679
research it and see what the other
>> because I'd really like from y'all if

680
01:10:50,400 --> 01:10:56,719
you would like to say, hey, from your
team to say, hey, what what what are

681
01:10:53,679 --> 01:11:00,880
some things we could do more than, you
know, being at the edge of the water?

682
01:10:58,400 --> 01:11:02,880
And and that's as far as we go.
We can look into it. I don't know what

683
01:11:02,239 --> 01:11:06,480
other people think.
>> No, I I agree. Um because being out in

684
01:11:05,199 --> 01:11:10,239
the open water or being out in Clear
Lake adjacent to Nassau Bay is

685
01:11:08,239 --> 01:11:12,320
definitely different than coming in
where within the city limits of Nassau

686
01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:16,560
Bay.
>> Correct.

687
01:11:13,040 --> 01:11:20,000
» Um and I do have a question. So if if
there's a crime on my street and you can

688
01:11:18,080 --> 01:11:23,920
use my Ring camera for that, can you use
a private drone footage for a crime

689
01:11:22,320 --> 01:11:28,080
within Nassau Bay city limits on the
water? So private drones, there's part

690
01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:33,440
of the Texas part of the Texas statute
that says that that uh it is a violation

691
01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:36,320
of state law to use a drone for uh
surveillance purposes.

692
01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:38,320
» So we'd have to have stationary cameras
to

693
01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:40,000
» unless part of his law
>> Oh, unless it's part of his law

694
01:11:39,280 --> 01:11:43,360
enforcement. Okay.
>> Yeah. Law enforcement had obviously

695
01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:48,239
different different guidance.
>> My view would be as far and I do use a

696
01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:51,520
big big honking drone with you know
Nassau baby. No, but we [laughter]

697
01:11:50,080 --> 01:11:55,280
already have great.
>> But your question was about private

698
01:11:53,040 --> 01:11:58,640
drones. And I I would I would say no
because it that that doesn't fit the

699
01:11:56,960 --> 01:12:01,120
statute and it actually violates the
statute using private drones for

700
01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:03,760
surveillance.
>> Right.

701
01:12:02,159 --> 01:12:06,480
» So just because it's a drone, not
because it's private, because a ring

702
01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:11,199
camera would count,
>> right? Ring ring cameras. Yeah. Those if

703
01:12:09,120 --> 01:12:17,120
there's footage on there that enhances
us and we've we've used those before.

704
01:12:13,600 --> 01:12:20,880
» Yeah. Oh, but yeah.
I think what the issue is the ring

705
01:12:18,800 --> 01:12:23,600
camera is catching like a public street
like it's just recording what's

706
01:12:22,080 --> 01:12:27,120
happening in front of it. A drone is
going like into someone's backyard and

707
01:12:25,840 --> 01:12:30,880
then that becomes a Fourth Amendment
issue. Um if they're going to use it,

708
01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:33,600
it's an offense if the if a private
citizen is doing it. That's under the

709
01:12:32,320 --> 01:12:36,560
statute what the chief is saying. But I
think

710
01:12:34,480 --> 01:12:41,760
» if you and my concern with using the
drone as compared to like cameras facing

711
01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:46,880
the public is that it could trigger some
issues with an unlawful search.

712
01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:52,360
» Yeah. Okay. I'm just curious. Thank you.
>> Any any other comments? Are people okay

713
01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:52,360
with that?

714
01:12:53,920 --> 01:12:56,880
» Okay. With what?
>> Okay.

715
01:12:55,280 --> 01:12:59,840
» You know, having him take a look at it,
come back with benchmarks and and make

716
01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:02,400
some recommendations.
>> Yeah, I would definitely want to see

717
01:13:00,800 --> 01:13:05,199
what the parameters are going to be
like. If it's going to be specifically

718
01:13:03,679 --> 01:13:08,239
used like for the cove when it's like
dangerous weather outside, that's

719
01:13:06,880 --> 01:13:11,600
probably not an issue. But if it's
something the police department who's

720
01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:14,560
going to car launch use, I would have an
issue with that.

721
01:13:12,320 --> 01:13:17,600
» But I mean, I I I used just like with
the cameras, it started off with them

722
01:13:16,080 --> 01:13:21,760
with the police looking at the different
things and and I'd really like to

723
01:13:19,840 --> 01:13:25,520
understand that cuz I I really don't
want to have the volunteer fire

724
01:13:23,199 --> 01:13:28,480
department on enforcement.
>> I can do some research with the other

725
01:13:26,719 --> 01:13:32,719
agencies and see what they're doing. you
know, some of the agencies,

726
01:13:30,560 --> 01:13:35,040
» Lake View PD, KMA PD, they don't even
have they don't have any boats.

727
01:13:34,719 --> 01:13:37,760
» So,
>> interesting.

728
01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:41,120
» You know, it just depends on different
agencies and but we we'll see if anybody

729
01:13:40,159 --> 01:13:44,960
has any
>> if anybody has any magic

730
01:13:43,440 --> 01:13:48,719
if if any of the other agencies have any
magic bullets or, you know, something

731
01:13:47,199 --> 01:13:51,440
that we can use, you know, that they're
that,

732
01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:54,480
» you know, other than, you know, from the
shoreline at at that particular time.

733
01:13:54,159 --> 01:13:58,320
» Okay.
>> So, drones are also limited due to the

734
01:13:56,320 --> 01:14:02,159
weather and stuff like that, too. So, it
depends on the cost and you know how

735
01:14:00,480 --> 01:14:04,239
much we want to spend on a drone. So,
but we'll look into it.

736
01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:05,280
» Okay.
>> Okay,

737
01:14:04,640 --> 01:14:08,400
» that works.
>> And thank you for sending like going out

738
01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:10,800
to the house and trying to figure out
who these people are. It's really

739
01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:15,760
appreciated.
>> Yeah, we had we had I thought we had

740
01:14:13,920 --> 01:14:18,800
identified the the owners of a couple
that were living in Seabbrook, but we

741
01:14:17,120 --> 01:14:23,360
didn't have actual addresses and then we
found out later on that it was actually

742
01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:26,400
somebody ownership here in in Nassau
Bay. So,

743
01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:30,320
» you lived in Nassau Bay?
>> I'm sorry. the people in the the lady in

744
01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:33,199
the van lives in Nassau Bay.
>> Mhm.

745
01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:36,480
» Yes, ma'am.
>> Go get her.

746
01:14:35,040 --> 01:14:41,120
So, thank you.
>> Thank you.

747
01:14:38,480 --> 01:14:48,520
All right. Next is consideration and
possible actions. This is a first

748
01:14:43,120 --> 01:14:48,520
reading of an ordinance uh 2025-1112-1-

749
01:14:49,679 --> 01:14:58,000
an ordinance amending ordinance number
uh 02020-793

750
01:14:56,480 --> 01:15:02,880
of the city council of the city of
Nassau Bay, Texas to amend chapter 9

751
01:15:00,960 --> 01:15:09,360
health and sanitary health and
sanitation article 1 in general section

752
01:15:05,920 --> 01:15:14,159
9-1 neglected or deteriorated vessels by
clarifying the the definition of

753
01:15:12,080 --> 01:15:20,560
offender and the addition of another
condition, precedent. And uh this this

754
01:15:17,120 --> 01:15:25,920
is basically just out of the the the
incident that we had. Uh I think Dick

755
01:15:23,120 --> 01:15:32,239
Greg was our our city council was uh
councelor was uh uh asked if there's

756
01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:38,239
ways in which we can uh tighten our
ordinance just to be able to provide

757
01:15:33,920 --> 01:15:43,360
even more uh uh support for the police
and and tightening up because the end of

758
01:15:41,280 --> 01:15:49,360
the day if we had ended up with these
four vessels it would have been an

759
01:15:46,239 --> 01:15:55,360
extraordinarily expensive you know uh
impact on uh on the city. So, anything

760
01:15:52,640 --> 01:15:57,679
that we could do to uh to tighten that
is what was asked of the uh city

761
01:15:57,199 --> 01:16:03,120
attorney,
>> which is what we did. Whether owned or

762
01:16:00,400 --> 01:16:07,199
not, it clarifies it.
It was already on the books, but it

763
01:16:04,960 --> 01:16:11,360
worked as as it was written, but this
makes it a little clearer.

764
01:16:08,960 --> 01:16:14,640
» So, I think you ought to do it.
>> You want to you want to specifically,

765
01:16:13,280 --> 01:16:16,960
you know, you got it in the yellow,
right?

766
01:16:14,960 --> 01:16:21,920
» Yeah. The yellow the yellow portion says
whether owner by that person or not. It

767
01:16:18,960 --> 01:16:26,960
just it basically deals with an offender
who is a person who permits the the

768
01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:28,800
unmanned vessel, whoever owns it. And
that's where that's what that's for.

769
01:16:28,400 --> 01:16:32,320
» Yep.
>> So, what does this currently do for us?

770
01:16:30,719 --> 01:16:36,080
Whether I mean, I know we're adding the
whether owned by a person or not, but

771
01:16:34,239 --> 01:16:39,760
how do we currently use or how can we
currently use this?

772
01:16:38,239 --> 01:16:44,560
» Well, you still have to know who that
person is, whether they're the owner or

773
01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:48,640
not the owner. You you need the
ownership alone. Just like if your car

774
01:16:46,400 --> 01:16:52,239
was stolen and something happened to it,
it wouldn't be your fault if you didn't

775
01:16:50,159 --> 01:16:55,920
do the stealing. So the same problem
with the boat. We got to we got to

776
01:16:53,840 --> 01:17:00,400
identify who who's the culprit, who the
offender is. This does make it clear you

777
01:16:58,159 --> 01:17:08,080
don't have to be the owner. So, so what
has become a trend out on the water is

778
01:17:04,400 --> 01:17:12,560
that people leave boats in marinas that
are abandoned and then the marina owners

779
01:17:10,560 --> 01:17:17,760
who are not the owner of the boats want
to get rid of the boats and they bring

780
01:17:14,880 --> 01:17:21,600
them out and they abandon them in public
areas like

781
01:17:19,040 --> 01:17:27,040
» like the cove. There's there's a number
of them out on Clear Lake. It's a

782
01:17:23,520 --> 01:17:30,880
problem. of things going on here. And to
to me, that's a that's a minimum of what

783
01:17:29,120 --> 01:17:34,320
what we should do is to make sure that
we're not just going after the owner. We

784
01:17:32,640 --> 01:17:38,000
want the perpetrator. And the
perpetrator

785
01:17:36,080 --> 01:17:40,640
is more than likely not going to be the
owner in what we've seen with the

786
01:17:39,840 --> 01:17:44,719
» often it's not.
>> Often it's not.

787
01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:49,600
» So, I guess I expected this to result in
a fine or some kind of what what's the

788
01:17:47,199 --> 01:17:53,760
result of violating this ordinance?
>> Well, the court can set the fine for the

789
01:17:52,000 --> 01:17:56,159
highest amount allowed by law. It's up
to the court

790
01:17:54,800 --> 01:18:00,960
» which is what
>> depends on depends on the violation but

791
01:17:58,159 --> 01:18:05,440
it's typically uh
it would be it would be up to in one

792
01:18:03,520 --> 01:18:09,520
instance 200 right
>> uh I'd have to look at it there are

793
01:18:07,040 --> 01:18:14,560
certain exceptions to the 2000 the the
2000 maximum fine that has to deal with

794
01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:17,920
health and safety um and some other
things um so

795
01:18:15,760 --> 01:18:21,520
» which is why we were maximum law because
it depends on how it comes into the

796
01:18:19,360 --> 01:18:25,840
court charge let me ask the question
here is with abandoned boats with no

797
01:18:23,440 --> 01:18:29,360
lights, wouldn't that be a safety and be
maximum penalty?

798
01:18:26,960 --> 01:18:33,040
» That would be the argument.
Is that what we did with this last one?

799
01:18:31,120 --> 01:18:40,000
» No, we we file we filed this particular
ordinance is what we filed for the uh

800
01:18:35,360 --> 01:18:41,679
derelict and um neglected vessels. Um no
lighting and stuff like that would come.

801
01:18:41,520 --> 01:18:43,440
You
>> file that as a part of a ticket?

802
01:18:43,120 --> 01:18:47,520
» Yeah,
>> it was filed with the court. Yes, it's

803
01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:51,600
cited and filed with the court.
>> That's pending right now. It's it is

804
01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:54,560
pending and and then it'll be it'll be
up to the judge to make the decision.

805
01:18:53,360 --> 01:18:59,040
Judge Williamson will
>> find it have in here the safety aspects

806
01:18:56,560 --> 01:19:01,600
of it versus just the derelic side of
it.

807
01:18:59,840 --> 01:19:04,560
» It has the maximum allowed by law and
that then it just says if you leave it

808
01:19:02,960 --> 01:19:09,440
abandoned it's a violation. It's up to
the court to determine how it fits.

809
01:19:06,719 --> 01:19:12,640
Yeah, I'm very sure what you safety
>> you you mentioned that there were

810
01:19:10,960 --> 01:19:18,880
different categories
>> and that the maximum is safety and I was

811
01:19:16,480 --> 01:19:22,480
looking at this was to me is an obvious
safety. I'm not sure that's actually

812
01:19:20,960 --> 01:19:25,440
what happened.
>> Yeah, that would be up that would be up

813
01:19:23,679 --> 01:19:29,920
to Judge Williamson to decide if it if
it was eligible for that $2,000 maximum

814
01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:31,840
because there's that's not every class C
misdemeanor.

815
01:19:30,560 --> 01:19:36,159
» Not every one of them doesn't fit
>> doesn't fit into that. as as part of our

816
01:19:33,920 --> 01:19:40,640
as part of what when you file that, do
you do you state safety issues or

817
01:19:38,640 --> 01:19:42,560
anything along that line or how how
would she

818
01:19:41,280 --> 01:19:44,480
» was in the police department or what?
>> Yeah, our police department with when we

819
01:19:44,159 --> 01:19:47,040
when
>> we we just filed the charge. We just

820
01:19:46,400 --> 01:19:51,280
filed the charge.
>> You don't have any any information about

821
01:19:49,679 --> 01:19:54,239
safety issues or anything like that? How
how would she even know there was a

822
01:19:52,560 --> 01:19:58,159
safety issue?
the ordinance itself, the the language

823
01:19:56,000 --> 01:20:03,760
in the ordinance, whether it fits in to
the to the portion of the state code

824
01:20:01,040 --> 01:20:06,400
that allows the $2,000 maximum. Not
every not every charges in in the

825
01:20:05,360 --> 01:20:11,040
municipal court,
>> but if the evidence presented, and I'll

826
01:20:08,800 --> 01:20:14,880
defer to our the two lawyers, but if if
the evidence doesn't suggest there's

827
01:20:12,719 --> 01:20:18,400
safety issues, how would a judge know
there's a safety to by

828
01:20:16,880 --> 01:20:20,400
» the language by the language of the I'm
sorry, Mr. Greg, go ahead.

829
01:20:19,360 --> 01:20:23,760
» That's all right. It would be what
evidence presented at the time of the

830
01:20:22,080 --> 01:20:27,360
charge, too.
will be presented in court on that at

831
01:20:25,280 --> 01:20:30,400
that time. So my question was that
presented with this to have safety

832
01:20:29,440 --> 01:20:34,640
issues
>> not necessarily violation.

833
01:20:32,719 --> 01:20:37,120
» The the charge was filed just as the
ordinance violation

834
01:20:35,600 --> 01:20:42,239
» as a violation of this violation.
>> But was there any information

835
01:20:39,520 --> 01:20:45,360
done where it indicated the safety
aspects

836
01:20:43,520 --> 01:20:48,320
» that would be Can I interrupt for a
second? When you write a citation when

837
01:20:46,640 --> 01:20:51,840
you write a ticket right you g you gave
him a citation correct? Mhm.

838
01:20:50,239 --> 01:20:58,000
» And so when you detail on the ticket,
you say um so and so did not mor their

839
01:20:55,600 --> 01:21:03,280
vessel or what whatever or so and so
violation of city ordinance. Uh

840
01:21:00,320 --> 01:21:05,199
» but then with the statute with the U
section and then the title of the

841
01:21:04,800 --> 01:21:09,360
offense,
>> but you might write in there.

842
01:21:07,199 --> 01:21:12,719
» I mean on class E citations I've seen
there is a place where you can detail

843
01:21:10,960 --> 01:21:16,000
what happened
>> like there is space.

844
01:21:14,320 --> 01:21:20,400
» Not not normally when it's filed with
the court.

845
01:21:18,000 --> 01:21:24,080
So they so Holly wouldn't know if
nobody, you know, was there that there

846
01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:28,719
would be a safety issue because we just
we just did this and some boats were out

847
01:21:26,960 --> 01:21:35,920
on our water.
>> Right. She she she would set the fine

848
01:21:32,719 --> 01:21:39,120
not for the individual offenses, but for
the statute or or the ordinance itself.

849
01:21:38,719 --> 01:21:41,679
Mhm.
>> And she would have to look at all the

850
01:21:40,239 --> 01:21:49,280
language in the ordinance to determine
whether that where that would fit in her

851
01:21:45,040 --> 01:21:55,440
fine window or h how would we how can we
arm her better? Cuz I I I can't think of

852
01:21:52,080 --> 01:22:00,400
anything more dangerous than four boats
in the middle of a cove which can have

853
01:21:57,679 --> 01:22:05,199
up to 150 people in it. And you know
when in the in the peak where people are

854
01:22:02,880 --> 01:22:08,320
trying to drive at night sometimes if
it's if it's empty it's even worse cuz

855
01:22:06,800 --> 01:22:13,600
people even though we have a no wake
will go through there 30 40 mph.

856
01:22:11,199 --> 01:22:19,760
» Well I guess I'm not being clear enough.
It's not the language of the individual

857
01:22:16,400 --> 01:22:25,920
charge for the individual incident. It's
the language of the ordinance how it's

858
01:22:22,159 --> 01:22:30,480
written. And then there's a maximum
usually the the class C the charges

859
01:22:28,239 --> 01:22:35,679
filed in the city court are maximum of
$500 fine. There's a there's there are a

860
01:22:33,520 --> 01:22:40,320
couple of sections or a couple of
caveats where they can be up to 2,000

861
01:22:38,880 --> 01:22:43,520
but it has to be
>> but it has to be

862
01:22:41,760 --> 01:22:47,040
» it has to fit within certain criteria
within the statute

863
01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:49,280
» and then that has to be determined by
the court. Does it fit?

864
01:22:47,920 --> 01:22:53,840
» That's what I was wondering. Does it
have anything to do with how do we

865
01:22:51,040 --> 01:22:59,280
» instance? How do we help you be able to
cuz I I would want it to be very clear

866
01:22:56,560 --> 01:23:01,840
to a judge without any ambiguity
>> because language is already in the

867
01:23:00,719 --> 01:23:04,639
ordinance.
>> Yeah. Yeah. I don't think you want to be

868
01:23:02,880 --> 01:23:08,400
too specific because then you limit
yourself to what you can charge people.

869
01:23:06,239 --> 01:23:13,040
» Exactly. Right. I I get that. But at the
same time, I don't what I what I

870
01:23:10,880 --> 01:23:18,480
understand is what I heard, and maybe I
heard it wrong,

871
01:23:14,719 --> 01:23:22,560
» was that h our judge, Holly William,
Judge Williamson, wouldn't have the data

872
01:23:20,960 --> 01:23:28,159
to be able to say whether there was a
safety issue or not, she'd have the

873
01:23:26,800 --> 01:23:32,320
facts of the case itself.
>> So, so when the judge sets a fine, so

874
01:23:30,400 --> 01:23:35,360
let's let's
and I don't want to speak for the judge,

875
01:23:33,520 --> 01:23:39,280
and Mr. Greg, correct me if I'm wrong.
So, let's say running a red light. The

876
01:23:37,600 --> 01:23:42,800
judge sets a fine for running a red
light, uh, a window fine. If somebody

877
01:23:41,600 --> 01:23:47,120
wants to come in and pay it with the
court without having to come to court,

878
01:23:45,199 --> 01:23:51,199
they can pay that fine. Uh, they can
mail it in or pay it at the window or

879
01:23:48,719 --> 01:23:55,679
whatever. She sets that fine. Not
because

880
01:23:53,360 --> 01:24:00,080
Mr. Jones ran a red light and nobody was
around or Mr. Jones ran a red light and

881
01:23:57,840 --> 01:24:03,840
there was, you know, full traffic. She
doesn't take that into account. She

882
01:24:01,280 --> 01:24:07,440
takes into account the offense as it's
written and what's in the offense.

883
01:24:05,360 --> 01:24:11,199
» But but I I would look at a different
analogy that would better describe

884
01:24:08,880 --> 01:24:15,920
because that's just a one criteria. I
look at speeding. If you have a speeding

885
01:24:12,800 --> 01:24:21,120
ordinance, but then we have reckless
driving, which is 20 mph over the speed

886
01:24:19,120 --> 01:24:25,120
limit. You don't say what the speed
limit is and just say speeding. How

887
01:24:23,520 --> 01:24:29,360
would somebody know to do a reckless
driving other than what is cited?

888
01:24:27,600 --> 01:24:32,080
» Reckless. Reckless driving is is a whole
separate separate offense from charge

889
01:24:31,520 --> 01:24:36,880
from.
>> So let me ask you this is do you do you

890
01:24:34,719 --> 01:24:43,360
feel and that and again that's why I was
really that the safety aspect to drive a

891
01:24:40,320 --> 01:24:49,520
a higher penalty just like reckless
driving is a higher penalty is

892
01:24:47,520 --> 01:24:54,000
identified in this ordinance so that the
judge would be able to see the

893
01:24:50,800 --> 01:24:57,360
difference between a reckless driver and
a speeder.

894
01:24:55,199 --> 01:24:59,440
» Yes. the the information the information
is already written in the language of

895
01:24:58,639 --> 01:25:02,320
the ordinance.
>> Okay.

896
01:24:59,920 --> 01:25:06,159
» There.
>> Okay.

897
01:25:04,159 --> 01:25:12,159
» Is there a time factor to this? So, if
you put a boat out for 30 days, is it

898
01:25:09,679 --> 01:25:15,040
the same penalty as one day?
>> 48 hours.

899
01:25:13,120 --> 01:25:18,560
» My understanding is it's 48 hours and
it's an offense for every day you leave

900
01:25:16,800 --> 01:25:23,440
» every 48 48 hours and
>> every day. So, the way it reads is it

901
01:25:20,880 --> 01:25:27,520
says for 48 hours. That's the the change
in number eight. And then if you look at

902
01:25:25,280 --> 01:25:31,280
the um penalty itself at the end of that
says each day of violation shall be

903
01:25:29,520 --> 01:25:35,600
deemed a separate offense. So I think
once you hit that 48 hours every single

904
01:25:33,679 --> 01:25:38,800
day you're committing a new offense out
there.

905
01:25:36,239 --> 01:25:42,239
» So on Friday when the gentleman was
issued a citation

906
01:25:40,800 --> 01:25:45,719
» when I met with him at his house and
issued a citation.

907
01:25:45,920 --> 01:25:52,239
» I announced that this is your first
citation

908
01:25:49,520 --> 01:25:55,360
that every day was a separate violation.
Those boats were moved by Friday

909
01:25:53,520 --> 01:26:01,920
evening. I bet that's right. That's how
it should be. So, let me and um from

910
01:25:59,600 --> 01:26:06,400
here that 48 hours or we weren't 48
hours. How were you able to to do that

911
01:26:04,480 --> 01:26:09,920
within the 48 hours or is there
something we need to help you with with

912
01:26:07,760 --> 01:26:14,719
that?
>> My understanding is it takes 48 hours of

913
01:26:11,840 --> 01:26:18,400
a duration in order for the first
trigger for that. But we were able to

914
01:26:16,239 --> 01:26:22,560
» No, for the for the for the ordinance,
the der neglected

915
01:26:20,400 --> 01:26:26,080
» for the presumption of abandonment.
>> The presumption. Yeah, sure.

916
01:26:24,560 --> 01:26:29,840
» That ordinance, that ordinance wasn't
dealing anything with it wasn't dealing

917
01:26:28,560 --> 01:26:33,520
anything with abandonment. It was
dealing with the condition of boat and

918
01:26:31,440 --> 01:26:35,760
the registration and that's what we were
working on doing verifying the

919
01:26:35,199 --> 01:26:40,320
registration.
>> Not abandoned but unmanned and and left

920
01:26:37,679 --> 01:26:44,320
there for 48 hours.
>> Not not focusing on

921
01:26:42,880 --> 01:26:47,840
» I was focusing on on the condition of
the boat and the last

922
01:26:45,920 --> 01:26:51,520
» the last element on there is is proper
registration and that boat's not

923
01:26:49,120 --> 01:26:55,199
properly registered. No question. Or lit
or anything like that at night.

924
01:26:53,199 --> 01:27:00,400
» Yeah. When when you when these boats get
um you know left there, do you see like

925
01:26:57,840 --> 01:27:03,679
the registration all that stripped off
>> sometimes? Yeah. Okay.

926
01:27:01,760 --> 01:27:06,560
» Yeah. We cannibalize them a lot.
>> Yeah.

927
01:27:04,719 --> 01:27:09,679
» Yeah. I represent See Shipyard and they
run into that problem a lot.

928
01:27:08,159 --> 01:27:13,520
» Yeah.
>> One of one of the one of the two boats

929
01:27:11,040 --> 01:27:17,199
that we we ended up taking uh out of the
water last year. Uh, one of the two

930
01:27:15,280 --> 01:27:24,159
boats did not have proper TX number and
we had to get the uh we had to get the

931
01:27:19,600 --> 01:27:27,199
um uh marine um
North Northstar Marine where we had the

932
01:27:25,600 --> 01:27:31,280
boat stored. We had to get them to get
us the whole number off of the uh veh

933
01:27:28,960 --> 01:27:35,199
off the vessel so we could identify it.
>> So, so this ordinance is allowing you to

934
01:27:33,679 --> 01:27:38,719
do what you did, you know, with it not
being properly registered and all these

935
01:27:37,120 --> 01:27:41,679
other things. And then on top of that,
if someone just goes and parks a boat

936
01:27:40,080 --> 01:27:44,880
out there for 48 hours, that then gives
you the ability to enforce this or do

937
01:27:44,239 --> 01:27:47,360
some
>> Not as it stands now. No,

938
01:27:46,320 --> 01:27:50,320
» that's what I'm saying. Like that's what
it it reads right now. The new addition

939
01:27:48,800 --> 01:27:53,760
that number eight.
>> Not not what's currently on there.

940
01:27:52,000 --> 01:27:55,040
» No, no, no, not what's currently on
there. Yeah.

941
01:27:54,239 --> 01:27:59,840
» Okay.
>> Okay.

942
01:27:56,719 --> 01:28:06,800
» Um I have one comment. What if someone
was to secure their vessel to the city

943
01:28:03,840 --> 01:28:12,800
docks off Upper Bay Road? Brian Brown,
>> that's not an anchor point. So then we

944
01:28:08,800 --> 01:28:16,400
have to think about maybe we need to say
or secures to any object.

945
01:28:15,120 --> 01:28:22,560
» Did you hear from Brian Brown?
>> Yes. He's concerned about that.

946
01:28:18,400 --> 01:28:26,480
» He he cuz when when uh cuz I I directed
him about his maritime committee and

947
01:28:24,639 --> 01:28:33,199
they talked and I'm and I'm glad you
raised that is uh they didn't want the

948
01:28:30,159 --> 01:28:38,159
now city-owned fingerps. They used to be
homeowners owned things, but they're now

949
01:28:36,000 --> 01:28:42,639
city-owned. And how this ordinance
applies to those finger finger peers on

950
01:28:41,840 --> 01:28:46,560
Upper Bay Road.
>> Doesn't number eight cover that cuz it's

951
01:28:44,080 --> 01:28:49,120
not a private slip or private dock.
>> Well, they're not private anymore.

952
01:28:48,159 --> 01:28:52,000
» Yeah, they're not.
>> So, [clears throat] it's unmanned and

953
01:28:50,159 --> 01:28:56,320
left secured to an anchor point, not
located in a private slip or dock.

954
01:28:54,719 --> 01:29:01,679
» So, that [clears throat] is a public
slip. So, just to make sure it's cuz I

955
01:28:59,360 --> 01:29:03,199
» Okay. What about a tree
>> that I think

956
01:29:02,320 --> 01:29:05,199
» on the peninsula?
>> It's not private.

957
01:29:04,159 --> 01:29:08,400
» It's not a private dock.
>> Yeah. So, if it's not anchored to a

958
01:29:06,800 --> 01:29:12,400
private dock or a private slip. So, if
it's anchored to the finger piers, which

959
01:29:10,159 --> 01:29:14,560
is public, or to a tree, that is not a
private slip or a private dock, and it

960
01:29:13,760 --> 01:29:18,080
would fall under that.
>> Is that considered an anchor point? I

961
01:29:16,639 --> 01:29:21,280
don't really know. Is it like you
anchor? Anywhere you anchor that you

962
01:29:19,920 --> 01:29:26,360
just tie, that's an anchor point. I
don't know the boat verbiage. So, okay.

963
01:29:28,000 --> 01:29:37,199
What? No, I think it's Yeah,
as long as that's covered, I'm I'm I'm

964
01:29:35,199 --> 01:29:40,800
good.
>> I think and also with with it being a

965
01:29:39,520 --> 01:29:44,800
tree or something of that sort, I think
that might fall under number four, it's

966
01:29:43,280 --> 01:29:47,199
has broken loose or is in danger of
breaking loose from its anchor point.

967
01:29:46,080 --> 01:29:51,360
And if it's not really or from its
anchor, if if it's tied to a to a tree,

968
01:29:49,840 --> 01:29:55,360
I think that that would be in danger of
breaking loose. So, would potentially

969
01:29:53,600 --> 01:29:57,679
fall under that.
Yep.

970
01:29:56,320 --> 01:30:00,880
» This is just a first reading, right?
>> This is just a first reading.

971
01:30:00,480 --> 01:30:04,560
» Yep.
>> But how And also, how do we prove that

972
01:30:02,719 --> 01:30:07,520
someone's been off of this boat for 48
hours? [clears throat]

973
01:30:06,000 --> 01:30:11,120
» Well, it' be great to have cameras out
there. [laughter]

974
01:30:09,040 --> 01:30:15,840
» I don't know.
>> I mean, we've also we could be strict

975
01:30:13,760 --> 01:30:21,440
enough that we say you can't be anchored
or docked or whatever in Nassau Bay on a

976
01:30:18,639 --> 01:30:24,719
non-private anything overnight.
>> We want to take it a step further. I'm

977
01:30:23,199 --> 01:30:28,000
not saying you want to do I mean I don't
know if you want to do I don't think

978
01:30:26,480 --> 01:30:33,840
because we're still a recreational thing
and if somebody's out there if you got a

979
01:30:30,960 --> 01:30:40,560
properly motorized
registered lit boat with with all your

980
01:30:38,639 --> 01:30:44,880
safety gear and everything like that you
should be able to anchor

981
01:30:42,719 --> 01:30:50,400
in the cove.
>> Agreed. But can I anchor outside your

982
01:30:46,719 --> 01:30:55,760
house for 3 weeks? You can you can
there's there's uh certain limits as to

983
01:30:53,040 --> 01:31:00,080
how far they can be to a fixed fixed
sense and as long as they're outside

984
01:30:58,000 --> 01:31:02,080
that whatever. Yeah. Then they should be
they do.

985
01:31:00,560 --> 01:31:04,560
» Okay. But don't leave your boat for more
than 48 hours.

986
01:31:03,120 --> 01:31:07,040
» But you don't leave your boat more than
48 hours.

987
01:31:05,520 --> 01:31:10,080
» Uncrude.
But but it has to be a functioning boat

988
01:31:09,120 --> 01:31:13,679
too,
>> right?

989
01:31:12,719 --> 01:31:15,920
» Okay. That's what we want.
>> Yeah. These are these are neglected or

990
01:31:15,199 --> 01:31:19,120
deteriorating.
>> Correct. Correct.

991
01:31:17,040 --> 01:31:24,719
» Correct. Just throw that out there.
>> No, I think that's good. So, what I'm

992
01:31:22,480 --> 01:31:30,960
hearing is this is holding up. We got
the one the uh the change identified by

993
01:31:27,679 --> 01:31:34,080
the uh city attorney and hold this over
to a second reading.

994
01:31:32,480 --> 01:31:38,480
» Correct.
>> And move on.

995
01:31:36,320 --> 01:31:45,120
» Okay.
Then with that, I want us to move into

996
01:31:41,360 --> 01:31:48,320
executive session. It is uh 8:20. The
city council will now hold a closed

997
01:31:46,960 --> 01:31:52,880
executive session pursuant to the
provision of chapter 551

998
01:31:50,880 --> 01:31:58,239
uh Texas Government Code in accordance
with the authority contained in one

999
01:31:55,520 --> 01:32:01,760
section 551-087
Texas Government Code to deliberate

1000
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regarding economic development
negotiations and two section 551-071

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the Texas government code consultation
with attorney close meeting on a matter

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in which the duty of the attorney to the
government body under the Texas display

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rules or professional conduct of the
state bar of Texas clearly confessects

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with this charter or chapter. It is
again 8:21. What?

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is 10:16 and we are back in open
session. Do I hear a motion? Move to

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ajourn. Second.
>> Do I have the vote? All those in favor?

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Passes. 7 nothing. Maria, do
>> you want to make a post?