1 00:00:00,534 --> 00:00:02,534 I would like 2 00:00:03,537 --> 00:00:05,537 to call to 3 00:00:06,507 --> 00:00:08,509 order the july 10, 2025 meeting 4 00:00:08,509 --> 00:00:09,510 at 2:00 p.m. Please stand for the pledge of 5 00:00:09,510 --> 00:00:11,510 allegiance. 6 00:00:12,513 --> 00:00:13,514 >>> I pledge allegiance to the 7 00:00:13,514 --> 00:00:14,515 flag of the united states state of america and to the republic 8 00:00:14,515 --> 00:00:15,516 for which it stands, one nation under god, indivisible, with 9 00:00:15,516 --> 00:00:18,516 liberty and justice for all. 10 00:00:27,528 --> 00:00:28,529 >> clerk, 11 00:00:28,529 --> 00:00:32,129 please call the roll. [ roll called ] 12 00:00:36,537 --> 00:00:38,537 absent is 13 00:00:39,506 --> 00:00:40,507 board member knight. 14 00:00:40,507 --> 00:00:41,508 >> okay. 15 00:00:41,508 --> 00:00:44,508 >> public comment for nonagenda items. 16 00:00:44,511 --> 00:00:45,512 comments can only be for items not on 17 00:00:45,512 --> 00:00:47,512 the agenda 18 00:00:48,515 --> 00:00:50,915 under the authority of 19 00:00:51,518 --> 00:00:53,518 the opoid 20 00:00:54,521 --> 00:00:56,521 settlement task 21 00:00:57,524 --> 00:00:59,524 force. 22 00:01:00,527 --> 00:01:03,527 seeing none, we'll move into 23 00:01:03,530 --> 00:01:06,533 public comments on the agenda items. 24 00:01:06,533 --> 00:01:08,533 time limit is 25 00:01:08,535 --> 00:01:09,536 three minutes. Anyone in the audience 26 00:01:09,536 --> 00:01:11,536 have 27 00:01:12,506 --> 00:01:14,906 input for agenda items. 28 00:01:15,509 --> 00:01:17,509 seeing none, 29 00:01:17,511 --> 00:01:18,512 marshal, I'll kick the committee business 30 00:01:18,512 --> 00:01:19,513 to you. 31 00:01:19,513 --> 00:01:21,513 >> thank 32 00:01:21,515 --> 00:01:24,515 you, mr. Chairman. Last meeting 33 00:01:24,518 --> 00:01:26,520 we completed the great task 34 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:27,521 of allocating the funds to the individuals 35 00:01:27,521 --> 00:01:29,521 just for the 36 00:01:30,524 --> 00:01:32,524 board's understanding. 37 00:01:32,526 --> 00:01:33,527 lsf is working directly with entities 38 00:01:33,527 --> 00:01:35,527 to get the 39 00:01:35,529 --> 00:01:36,530 documents in place to get the funding 40 00:01:36,530 --> 00:01:38,930 agreements in and all 41 00:01:39,533 --> 00:01:42,533 the next steps. Where that 42 00:01:42,536 --> 00:01:45,506 leaves us for this year 43 00:01:45,506 --> 00:01:46,507 two funding is outside of the money 44 00:01:46,507 --> 00:01:48,507 that's 45 00:01:48,509 --> 00:01:51,509 for the nonqualified agencies that's 46 00:01:51,512 --> 00:01:54,512 sent to the managing entity, 47 00:01:54,515 --> 00:01:55,516 lsf, we as the county received a portion 48 00:01:55,516 --> 00:01:56,517 directly into our 49 00:01:56,517 --> 00:01:57,518 funds for some of our operations. 50 00:01:57,518 --> 00:01:59,518 at this 51 00:02:00,521 --> 00:02:02,523 point, after the allocation last 52 00:02:02,523 --> 00:02:03,524 year which was some equipment and 53 00:02:03,524 --> 00:02:05,524 a portion 54 00:02:06,527 --> 00:02:08,529 of a truck, rescue 55 00:02:08,529 --> 00:02:09,530 unit, with the new funds received 56 00:02:09,530 --> 00:02:11,530 we 57 00:02:12,533 --> 00:02:14,533 currently 58 00:02:15,536 --> 00:02:17,536 have 59 00:02:17,538 --> 00:02:18,505 $98,048.58 that we're holding right 60 00:02:18,505 --> 00:02:20,505 now. 61 00:02:21,508 --> 00:02:23,508 we're working 62 00:02:24,511 --> 00:02:25,512 with sergeant knight, when he was 63 00:02:25,512 --> 00:02:27,512 here -- 64 00:02:28,515 --> 00:02:30,517 just so the board 65 00:02:30,517 --> 00:02:31,518 knows, sergeant knight no longer able 66 00:02:31,518 --> 00:02:33,518 to do 67 00:02:34,521 --> 00:02:36,523 this. We're working with the 68 00:02:36,523 --> 00:02:37,524 undersheriff to get somebody else 69 00:02:37,524 --> 00:02:39,524 designated from the 70 00:02:39,526 --> 00:02:40,527 sheriff's department, if you're wondering 71 00:02:40,527 --> 00:02:42,527 about his absence. 72 00:02:42,529 --> 00:02:43,530 prior to that absence he submitted 73 00:02:43,530 --> 00:02:45,530 one 74 00:02:45,532 --> 00:02:47,932 item for us to 75 00:02:48,535 --> 00:02:49,536 the $98,000, we look at how we support 76 00:02:49,536 --> 00:02:51,505 our 77 00:02:51,505 --> 00:02:54,505 first responders, public safety that 78 00:02:54,508 --> 00:02:57,511 are in the field. Part of that is 79 00:02:57,511 --> 00:03:00,511 training, part is equipment. From 80 00:03:01,515 --> 00:03:03,915 the sheriff's standpoint they 81 00:03:04,518 --> 00:03:06,518 submitted this apex 82 00:03:07,521 --> 00:03:09,521 chemical 83 00:03:13,527 --> 00:03:14,528 identification spectrometer 84 00:03:14,528 --> 00:03:16,530 that they can use in the field to 85 00:03:16,530 --> 00:03:18,930 test for the drugs 86 00:03:19,533 --> 00:03:22,536 that are in there. Four units 87 00:03:22,536 --> 00:03:24,536 cost about 88 00:03:28,509 --> 00:03:30,509 $98,000, $97,921. 89 00:03:31,512 --> 00:03:34,515 this is for four units. Any fraction 90 00:03:34,515 --> 00:03:36,515 of that is 91 00:03:37,518 --> 00:03:39,520 $25,000, for simple math, a piece. 92 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:40,521 they were looking to see if they could 93 00:03:40,521 --> 00:03:42,523 utilize that and bring 94 00:03:42,523 --> 00:03:43,524 it into the field and see if it works, 95 00:03:43,524 --> 00:03:45,524 test that 96 00:03:45,526 --> 00:03:46,527 out there. In talking with the fire 97 00:03:46,527 --> 00:03:48,527 department, 98 00:03:48,529 --> 00:03:49,530 the things we're always looking at 99 00:03:49,530 --> 00:03:51,530 is there are 100 00:03:51,532 --> 00:03:52,533 always new equipment and other items 101 00:03:52,533 --> 00:03:54,933 that we have -- 102 00:03:55,536 --> 00:03:58,505 we can replace, update and 103 00:03:58,505 --> 00:04:00,505 then 104 00:04:00,507 --> 00:04:01,508 there's training. Along with that 105 00:04:01,508 --> 00:04:03,508 training there's 106 00:04:03,510 --> 00:04:04,511 first responder support services, 107 00:04:04,511 --> 00:04:06,511 different counseling and 108 00:04:06,513 --> 00:04:07,514 other things. Training and counseling 109 00:04:07,514 --> 00:04:08,515 for 110 00:04:08,515 --> 00:04:10,517 the firefighters, along with equipment. 111 00:04:10,517 --> 00:04:12,517 we're looking at 112 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:16,523 those two buckets as to how we 113 00:04:16,523 --> 00:04:19,526 want to allocate the funds this year, 114 00:04:19,526 --> 00:04:22,526 touch different bases. I'm going 115 00:04:22,529 --> 00:04:24,529 to look at 116 00:04:25,532 --> 00:04:28,535 chief roland to see if you have any 117 00:04:28,535 --> 00:04:30,935 thoughts on the fire 118 00:04:31,505 --> 00:04:32,506 side. 119 00:04:32,506 --> 00:04:33,507 >> 120 00:04:33,507 --> 00:04:34,508 since sergeant knight isn't here, 121 00:04:34,508 --> 00:04:37,511 I say we take his money. 122 00:04:37,511 --> 00:04:40,514 just kidding. There's a value for 123 00:04:40,514 --> 00:04:43,514 the analyzer for them. At 124 00:04:43,517 --> 00:04:45,519 least one of them 125 00:04:45,519 --> 00:04:46,520 and potentially get some more if it 126 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:48,520 works for them. 127 00:04:49,523 --> 00:04:52,526 for us, there's such a big push 128 00:04:52,526 --> 00:04:54,528 for mental health for the firefighter 129 00:04:54,528 --> 00:04:55,529 side right now. I would like to see 130 00:04:55,529 --> 00:04:57,929 for us to take 131 00:04:58,532 --> 00:05:00,932 the remaining portion and 132 00:05:01,535 --> 00:05:04,535 use that as seed money 133 00:05:04,538 --> 00:05:06,538 for some 134 00:05:07,508 --> 00:05:09,508 fire specific -- 135 00:05:10,511 --> 00:05:13,511 fire, ems specific mental health. 136 00:05:13,514 --> 00:05:16,514 the specific provider that has 137 00:05:16,517 --> 00:05:19,517 done this before, nothing against 138 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:21,522 general practitioners, but somebody 139 00:05:21,522 --> 00:05:22,523 that has experience in dealing with 140 00:05:22,523 --> 00:05:24,523 this 141 00:05:25,526 --> 00:05:27,926 particular subgroup. They're special. 142 00:05:28,529 --> 00:05:31,532 so that's kind of my thought on the 143 00:05:31,532 --> 00:05:34,535 remaining portion of it. And how 144 00:05:34,535 --> 00:05:36,535 we allow for 145 00:05:37,538 --> 00:05:39,506 services, that would be a legal 146 00:05:39,506 --> 00:05:40,507 procurement type advice. There are 147 00:05:40,507 --> 00:05:42,507 other folks 148 00:05:43,510 --> 00:05:45,512 doing it now. St. John's county and 149 00:05:45,512 --> 00:05:46,513 a couple others. We could tap into 150 00:05:46,513 --> 00:05:48,913 that. They're already doing 151 00:05:49,516 --> 00:05:51,518 it for them. That's my 152 00:05:51,518 --> 00:05:52,519 suggestion, is tap into those kind 153 00:05:52,519 --> 00:05:54,519 of 154 00:05:55,522 --> 00:05:58,525 people and see if we can either 155 00:05:58,525 --> 00:06:01,528 tag along to theirs or create 156 00:06:01,528 --> 00:06:03,928 our own contract, something 157 00:06:04,531 --> 00:06:05,532 like that. I would like to see us 158 00:06:05,532 --> 00:06:06,533 use that 159 00:06:06,533 --> 00:06:07,534 seed money for the mental health aspect of 160 00:06:07,534 --> 00:06:09,534 the fire service. 161 00:06:10,537 --> 00:06:12,537 >> for the 162 00:06:13,507 --> 00:06:15,507 committee's understanding, 163 00:06:16,510 --> 00:06:18,512 chief --fire chief and I have been 164 00:06:18,512 --> 00:06:19,513 other conversations in other counties, 165 00:06:19,513 --> 00:06:21,513 one in st. 166 00:06:22,516 --> 00:06:23,517 john's. We have another one that deals 167 00:06:23,517 --> 00:06:25,517 more 168 00:06:25,519 --> 00:06:26,520 with the fire department crews itself. 169 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:28,520 one of 170 00:06:28,522 --> 00:06:29,523 the aspects, even if 171 00:06:29,523 --> 00:06:31,525 it's outside of the opoid funding 172 00:06:31,525 --> 00:06:33,525 is getting 173 00:06:34,528 --> 00:06:36,530 them in the door to train the trainers 174 00:06:36,530 --> 00:06:37,531 essentially on the peer counseling, 175 00:06:37,531 --> 00:06:39,533 to make sure you have 176 00:06:39,533 --> 00:06:40,534 first responders that they've got 177 00:06:40,534 --> 00:06:43,534 the opportunity, if they see 178 00:06:43,537 --> 00:06:44,538 the incidents, they know what's going 179 00:06:44,538 --> 00:06:45,506 on 180 00:06:45,506 --> 00:06:46,507 and know who needs help and they make 181 00:06:46,507 --> 00:06:48,509 the call. Whether it's 182 00:06:48,509 --> 00:06:49,510 one of our individuals there who has 183 00:06:49,510 --> 00:06:51,510 been 184 00:06:51,512 --> 00:06:52,513 properly trained --that's what we're 185 00:06:52,513 --> 00:06:54,513 looking 186 00:06:55,516 --> 00:06:56,517 for, training the individuals to a 187 00:06:56,517 --> 00:06:57,518 higher level 188 00:06:57,518 --> 00:06:58,519 so they can provide counseling services 189 00:06:58,519 --> 00:07:00,519 and identify it. 190 00:07:01,522 --> 00:07:03,524 the initial proposals, getting an 191 00:07:03,524 --> 00:07:04,525 assessment out there, about 50,000. 192 00:07:04,525 --> 00:07:06,525 to chief 193 00:07:07,528 --> 00:07:09,928 roland's point, we have 194 00:07:10,531 --> 00:07:13,534 $98,000. We split the baby and a half 195 00:07:13,534 --> 00:07:15,536 to fire starting to get the 196 00:07:15,536 --> 00:07:19,136 counseling programs in place and the 197 00:07:19,506 --> 00:07:21,506 other to 198 00:07:22,509 --> 00:07:24,909 get the spectrometer in 199 00:07:25,512 --> 00:07:26,513 place. 200 00:07:26,513 --> 00:07:28,515 >> I have questions. On this 201 00:07:28,515 --> 00:07:30,915 initial proposal for $50,000 is 202 00:07:31,518 --> 00:07:34,521 that to go out and do an 203 00:07:34,521 --> 00:07:36,521 rfp? 204 00:07:37,524 --> 00:07:39,526 is that $50,000 for start-up 205 00:07:39,526 --> 00:07:40,527 services? What does that line item 206 00:07:40,527 --> 00:07:42,527 look 207 00:07:43,530 --> 00:07:44,531 like? 208 00:07:44,531 --> 00:07:45,532 >> so it would be professional 209 00:07:45,532 --> 00:07:46,533 services contract. 210 00:07:46,533 --> 00:07:48,535 from the competitive standpoint 211 00:07:48,535 --> 00:07:49,536 of procurement, we can direct contract. 212 00:07:49,536 --> 00:07:51,536 plus, it's 213 00:07:52,506 --> 00:07:53,507 under $100,000. We've been interviewing 214 00:07:53,507 --> 00:07:55,507 a couple 215 00:07:55,509 --> 00:07:58,509 different firms to see how 216 00:07:58,512 --> 00:08:01,515 they deal with it and handle the 217 00:08:01,515 --> 00:08:02,516 individuals. That's where we narrowed 218 00:08:02,516 --> 00:08:04,516 it down to 219 00:08:04,518 --> 00:08:05,519 one. We want somebody who really understands 220 00:08:05,519 --> 00:08:06,520 our 221 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:08,522 individuals in the field, understand 222 00:08:08,522 --> 00:08:10,522 the situations 223 00:08:10,524 --> 00:08:11,525 up. Jackson hill is different than 224 00:08:11,525 --> 00:08:13,525 nassau. 225 00:08:14,528 --> 00:08:16,928 they need to understand 226 00:08:17,531 --> 00:08:19,531 the stress fact 227 00:08:20,534 --> 00:08:21,535 you have in nassau. That's a 228 00:08:21,535 --> 00:08:23,537 theme, consulting the individual. 229 00:08:23,537 --> 00:08:24,538 we would be looking at 230 00:08:24,538 --> 00:08:26,507 utilizing them based on the current 231 00:08:26,507 --> 00:08:27,508 firms we've 232 00:08:27,508 --> 00:08:29,510 looked at. That's bringing them out 233 00:08:29,510 --> 00:08:31,510 into the field. 234 00:08:32,513 --> 00:08:33,514 it's crew familiarization, doing 235 00:08:33,514 --> 00:08:35,516 assessments, program delivery, building 236 00:08:35,516 --> 00:08:37,916 up the resources. Some 237 00:08:38,519 --> 00:08:40,521 of this first step is a lot of telling 238 00:08:40,521 --> 00:08:41,522 us what we don't know and where the 239 00:08:41,522 --> 00:08:43,522 gaps are 240 00:08:43,524 --> 00:08:44,525 and seeing what we can do. If there 241 00:08:44,525 --> 00:08:45,526 are other 242 00:08:45,526 --> 00:08:47,528 resources we need, those are things 243 00:08:47,528 --> 00:08:48,529 that come 244 00:08:48,529 --> 00:08:50,531 later. That's this first step of let's 245 00:08:50,531 --> 00:08:51,532 do the assessment 246 00:08:51,532 --> 00:08:53,534 and bring them in, get them to know 247 00:08:53,534 --> 00:08:55,534 our guys and 248 00:08:55,536 --> 00:08:56,537 see what additional training support 249 00:08:56,537 --> 00:08:58,505 we need from 250 00:08:58,505 --> 00:08:59,506 this aspect. Particularly in this 251 00:08:59,506 --> 00:09:01,506 case, there 252 00:09:02,509 --> 00:09:04,511 are portions that are opoid-funding 253 00:09:04,511 --> 00:09:05,512 eligible and there are portions outside 254 00:09:05,512 --> 00:09:07,512 of that. 255 00:09:07,514 --> 00:09:08,515 some of this assessment will help 256 00:09:08,515 --> 00:09:10,515 us 257 00:09:11,518 --> 00:09:12,519 know that. 258 00:09:12,519 --> 00:09:14,519 >> following question, 259 00:09:14,521 --> 00:09:16,521 is there any 260 00:09:17,524 --> 00:09:19,524 evidence-based curriculum, 261 00:09:19,526 --> 00:09:20,527 standard procedures specific to firefighters, 262 00:09:20,527 --> 00:09:22,527 first responders 263 00:09:22,529 --> 00:09:23,530 that we know of? I mean, I understand 264 00:09:23,530 --> 00:09:25,530 you're talking 265 00:09:25,532 --> 00:09:26,533 to other entities that are working 266 00:09:26,533 --> 00:09:28,533 in 267 00:09:28,535 --> 00:09:29,536 other jurisdictions. Is there any 268 00:09:29,536 --> 00:09:31,536 evidence- 269 00:09:31,538 --> 00:09:32,506 based programs out there that are 270 00:09:32,506 --> 00:09:33,507 specific to 271 00:09:33,507 --> 00:09:35,509 our first response community? Do we 272 00:09:35,509 --> 00:09:37,909 know if the entities 273 00:09:38,512 --> 00:09:41,515 we're looking at are utilizing evidence- 274 00:09:41,515 --> 00:09:43,515 based criteria or 275 00:09:43,517 --> 00:09:44,518 treatment modalities? 276 00:09:44,518 --> 00:09:45,519 >> I can't say. 277 00:09:45,519 --> 00:09:46,520 >> I don't know. 278 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:47,521 I'm not a subject matter expert in 279 00:09:47,521 --> 00:09:49,521 this by 280 00:09:50,524 --> 00:09:51,525 any means. 281 00:09:51,525 --> 00:09:52,526 >> 282 00:09:52,526 --> 00:09:53,527 there's not a specific section that 283 00:09:53,527 --> 00:09:55,527 says 284 00:09:55,529 --> 00:09:56,530 when you go to training, this deals 285 00:09:56,530 --> 00:09:58,530 with firefighters. 286 00:09:59,533 --> 00:10:01,535 I think probably what is 287 00:10:01,535 --> 00:10:02,536 happening is the firms that are involved 288 00:10:02,536 --> 00:10:04,536 in 289 00:10:05,506 --> 00:10:07,506 it now have 290 00:10:08,509 --> 00:10:10,511 been in it a couple 291 00:10:10,511 --> 00:10:11,512 years and learn from firefighters 292 00:10:11,512 --> 00:10:13,512 deal with 293 00:10:13,514 --> 00:10:14,515 and their practices. That's the folks 294 00:10:14,515 --> 00:10:16,515 that are successful 295 00:10:17,518 --> 00:10:18,519 in it now. They've gone out and 296 00:10:18,519 --> 00:10:20,521 dealt with the firefighter issues. 297 00:10:20,521 --> 00:10:22,521 is there a 298 00:10:22,523 --> 00:10:25,523 specific training at particular schools? 299 00:10:25,526 --> 00:10:26,527 I don't think so. 300 00:10:26,527 --> 00:10:27,528 >> is there -->> 301 00:10:27,528 --> 00:10:29,528 I haven't found 302 00:10:29,530 --> 00:10:30,531 any. 303 00:10:30,531 --> 00:10:32,533 >> is there an industry 304 00:10:32,533 --> 00:10:33,534 standard from nfa or anything like 305 00:10:33,534 --> 00:10:34,535 that 306 00:10:34,535 --> 00:10:35,536 in regards to firefighters or first 307 00:10:35,536 --> 00:10:37,536 responders that 308 00:10:38,505 --> 00:10:39,506 we know of? 309 00:10:39,506 --> 00:10:41,506 >> national 310 00:10:41,508 --> 00:10:42,509 fire academy? 311 00:10:42,509 --> 00:10:44,509 >> yes. >> none from 312 00:10:44,511 --> 00:10:46,513 the nfa. The nfpa 313 00:10:46,513 --> 00:10:47,514 is evolving into the physical portion 314 00:10:47,514 --> 00:10:49,514 of it already. 315 00:10:49,516 --> 00:10:50,517 that's been announced for years. They're 316 00:10:50,517 --> 00:10:51,518 just now 317 00:10:51,518 --> 00:10:53,520 getting into the mental health aspect 318 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:55,920 of it. It's all 319 00:10:56,523 --> 00:10:59,523 over the place. What is 320 00:10:59,526 --> 00:11:01,526 specific needs 321 00:11:02,529 --> 00:11:05,532 for us, that's the challenge. There's 322 00:11:05,532 --> 00:11:06,533 not a one size fits all. 323 00:11:06,533 --> 00:11:08,533 >> right. 324 00:11:08,535 --> 00:11:09,536 >> nobody --there's not a clinical 325 00:11:09,536 --> 00:11:11,536 or 326 00:11:11,538 --> 00:11:12,506 curriculum that I know of in any school 327 00:11:12,506 --> 00:11:14,506 right 328 00:11:14,508 --> 00:11:16,508 now that offers 329 00:11:16,510 --> 00:11:17,511 this particular --certified in this 330 00:11:17,511 --> 00:11:19,511 area. 331 00:11:20,514 --> 00:11:22,516 we're going to get our board 332 00:11:22,516 --> 00:11:25,516 certified. That's not happened yet. 333 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:28,522 could it? Lord probably knows. 334 00:11:28,522 --> 00:11:29,523 >> to answer your question, yes. I 335 00:11:29,523 --> 00:11:32,523 couldn't tell you what they 336 00:11:32,526 --> 00:11:35,529 are. That's not a specialty area that 337 00:11:35,529 --> 00:11:38,532 we focus on, but there are national 338 00:11:38,532 --> 00:11:41,532 models out there and evidence-based 339 00:11:41,535 --> 00:11:42,536 practices. As chief roland says, these have 340 00:11:42,536 --> 00:11:44,536 been 341 00:11:44,538 --> 00:11:46,507 developed over 342 00:11:46,507 --> 00:11:47,508 time. I know there's an organization 343 00:11:47,508 --> 00:11:49,508 in 344 00:11:50,511 --> 00:11:51,512 jacksonville that we talked to during 345 00:11:51,512 --> 00:11:53,512 covid 346 00:11:53,514 --> 00:11:56,517 that focuses on this population -- 347 00:11:56,517 --> 00:11:59,517 ems, firefighters, police. When you're 348 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:01,522 talking about training peers, like 349 00:12:01,522 --> 00:12:02,523 firefighters peers, it's one of the 350 00:12:02,523 --> 00:12:04,523 most important 351 00:12:04,525 --> 00:12:05,526 pieces. That's your sustainability 352 00:12:05,526 --> 00:12:07,528 piece to have that. 353 00:12:07,528 --> 00:12:08,529 the mental health first aid training 354 00:12:08,529 --> 00:12:10,529 that 355 00:12:11,532 --> 00:12:12,533 we've been implementing since 2014, 356 00:12:12,533 --> 00:12:13,534 which is 357 00:12:13,534 --> 00:12:14,535 an evidence-based mental health training 358 00:12:14,535 --> 00:12:16,535 program, there 359 00:12:17,538 --> 00:12:18,539 are modules for law enforcement and for 360 00:12:18,539 --> 00:12:20,507 ems as 361 00:12:20,507 --> 00:12:22,507 part of that. 362 00:12:22,509 --> 00:12:23,510 years ago when we were doing that, 363 00:12:23,510 --> 00:12:25,510 we had 364 00:12:26,513 --> 00:12:28,515 some of those who retired fire 365 00:12:28,515 --> 00:12:29,516 department personnel who we trained. 366 00:12:29,516 --> 00:12:31,518 when we worked with that 367 00:12:31,518 --> 00:12:34,518 population, we had people trained 368 00:12:34,521 --> 00:12:35,522 for veterans, we have our veterans. 369 00:12:35,522 --> 00:12:37,522 that's part of 370 00:12:37,524 --> 00:12:38,525 that sustainability piece. There are 371 00:12:38,525 --> 00:12:40,525 evidence-based 372 00:12:40,527 --> 00:12:41,528 training curriculums out there for 373 00:12:41,528 --> 00:12:43,528 training how 374 00:12:43,530 --> 00:12:44,531 to --with mental health, how do you 375 00:12:44,531 --> 00:12:46,531 recognize it and 376 00:12:46,533 --> 00:12:47,534 respond, et cetera. They have that 377 00:12:47,534 --> 00:12:49,534 module. There's probably 378 00:12:50,537 --> 00:12:51,538 more. I haven't looked into it as 379 00:12:51,538 --> 00:12:53,507 much as greg 380 00:12:53,507 --> 00:12:56,510 has. They exist. I couldn't tell you 381 00:12:56,510 --> 00:12:58,512 what they are, but 382 00:12:58,512 --> 00:12:59,513 they're developing. 383 00:12:59,513 --> 00:13:00,514 >> the shield 384 00:13:00,514 --> 00:13:01,515 program is one. 385 00:13:01,515 --> 00:13:02,516 >> 386 00:13:02,516 --> 00:13:03,517 yes, thank you. 387 00:13:03,517 --> 00:13:05,917 >> that was one I 388 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:07,521 --yeah. 389 00:13:07,521 --> 00:13:09,521 >> I think 390 00:13:09,523 --> 00:13:12,523 it's based out of indiana, 391 00:13:12,526 --> 00:13:15,526 but it is an actual 392 00:13:15,529 --> 00:13:17,529 program. I know 393 00:13:18,532 --> 00:13:20,932 it's used with law 394 00:13:21,535 --> 00:13:22,536 enforcement and 395 00:13:22,536 --> 00:13:24,538 there's training for them. That could 396 00:13:24,538 --> 00:13:26,538 be something 397 00:13:27,508 --> 00:13:29,508 to look into. 398 00:13:33,514 --> 00:13:35,514 >> another 399 00:13:36,517 --> 00:13:38,517 question, chief 400 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:41,520 roland, is this 401 00:13:41,522 --> 00:13:44,522 direct therapeutic intervention or is 402 00:13:45,526 --> 00:13:47,526 it more broad 403 00:13:47,528 --> 00:13:49,928 scale recognition counseling support 404 00:13:51,532 --> 00:13:53,532 service based 405 00:13:54,535 --> 00:13:57,535 or is it actual direct 406 00:13:57,538 --> 00:13:59,506 therapeutic intervention? 407 00:13:59,506 --> 00:14:00,507 do we know? If we don't know, that's 408 00:14:00,507 --> 00:14:02,507 fine. 409 00:14:02,509 --> 00:14:03,510 >> that's one of the things --when 410 00:14:03,510 --> 00:14:05,510 we 411 00:14:06,513 --> 00:14:08,515 looked at the needs, we have a 412 00:14:08,515 --> 00:14:09,516 broad spectrum of needs. So there's 413 00:14:09,516 --> 00:14:11,916 somethings that are going 414 00:14:12,519 --> 00:14:14,519 to fall in 415 00:14:14,521 --> 00:14:15,522 that can get into the settlement funds 416 00:14:15,522 --> 00:14:16,523 that are 417 00:14:16,523 --> 00:14:18,525 eligible here. We have the other parts 418 00:14:18,525 --> 00:14:20,527 that will come out of 419 00:14:20,527 --> 00:14:21,528 other funding sources. It's probably 420 00:14:21,528 --> 00:14:23,530 going to be a program 421 00:14:23,530 --> 00:14:24,531 that whatever we do it's going to 422 00:14:24,531 --> 00:14:26,531 have 423 00:14:26,533 --> 00:14:27,534 to have multiple funding sources to 424 00:14:27,534 --> 00:14:29,536 get it through at 425 00:14:29,536 --> 00:14:32,506 the end of the day. It's an evolution. 426 00:14:32,506 --> 00:14:33,507 I mean, the thing is going to be it's 427 00:14:33,507 --> 00:14:34,508 the 428 00:14:34,508 --> 00:14:36,510 spectrum of where we hit in different 429 00:14:36,510 --> 00:14:38,512 areas. Once we do 430 00:14:38,512 --> 00:14:39,513 the assessment and see what's going 431 00:14:39,513 --> 00:14:41,515 on in the field, there 432 00:14:41,515 --> 00:14:42,516 are somethings in the training that 433 00:14:42,516 --> 00:14:44,916 know how to deal 434 00:14:45,519 --> 00:14:47,519 with individuals and 435 00:14:48,522 --> 00:14:51,522 there's somethings about dealing with 436 00:14:51,525 --> 00:14:54,528 it themselves after dealing with individuals. 437 00:14:54,528 --> 00:14:56,928 >> absolutely. >> over the past 438 00:14:57,531 --> 00:15:00,531 couple years our peer support 439 00:15:00,534 --> 00:15:01,535 program 440 00:15:01,535 --> 00:15:03,537 which is very active and robust was 441 00:15:03,537 --> 00:15:05,537 led by 442 00:15:06,507 --> 00:15:08,507 the 443 00:15:09,510 --> 00:15:11,510 nation 444 00:15:15,516 --> 00:15:18,519 al fire bureau and the chiefs. 445 00:15:18,519 --> 00:15:20,521 you asked about the other 446 00:15:20,521 --> 00:15:23,524 interventions and pieces, I want a 447 00:15:23,524 --> 00:15:24,525 very robust program whether we move 448 00:15:24,525 --> 00:15:26,525 to peer counseling 449 00:15:26,527 --> 00:15:27,528 or meeting with somebody. So we can 450 00:15:27,528 --> 00:15:29,528 call somebody that 451 00:15:30,531 --> 00:15:32,533 has the capability of making that 452 00:15:32,533 --> 00:15:33,534 intervention sooner than later. 453 00:15:33,534 --> 00:15:34,535 >> 454 00:15:34,535 --> 00:15:35,536 right. 455 00:15:35,536 --> 00:15:36,537 >> so 456 00:15:36,537 --> 00:15:37,538 that's --is that going to be right 457 00:15:37,538 --> 00:15:39,506 out of the gate? 458 00:15:39,506 --> 00:15:42,509 maybe not. It depends on the funding. 459 00:15:42,509 --> 00:15:44,909 when this mental health 460 00:15:45,512 --> 00:15:48,515 program, we foresee it in the 461 00:15:48,515 --> 00:15:50,915 fire department as -- 462 00:15:51,518 --> 00:15:52,519 it's a great resource, but I don't 463 00:15:52,519 --> 00:15:54,519 know 464 00:15:54,521 --> 00:15:56,523 of a single fireman that's 465 00:15:56,523 --> 00:15:57,524 going to pick up a phone and call. 466 00:15:57,524 --> 00:15:59,526 it's not going to 467 00:15:59,526 --> 00:16:00,527 happen. 468 00:16:00,527 --> 00:16:01,528 >> right. >> if we have field 469 00:16:01,528 --> 00:16:02,529 personnel, 470 00:16:02,529 --> 00:16:03,530 whether it's a firefighter or the 471 00:16:03,530 --> 00:16:05,530 officer 472 00:16:06,533 --> 00:16:08,535 that recognizes that a 473 00:16:08,535 --> 00:16:09,536 co-worker is struggling with something, 474 00:16:09,536 --> 00:16:11,536 we need to 475 00:16:12,506 --> 00:16:13,507 have them be able to pick up the phone, 476 00:16:13,507 --> 00:16:15,507 not 477 00:16:15,509 --> 00:16:17,509 to headquarters, 478 00:16:18,512 --> 00:16:19,513 but to somebody has worked and they 479 00:16:19,513 --> 00:16:21,513 know 480 00:16:21,515 --> 00:16:22,516 and recognize it and say, hey, we 481 00:16:22,516 --> 00:16:24,516 think 482 00:16:24,518 --> 00:16:27,521 so and so is having an issue. 483 00:16:27,521 --> 00:16:28,522 can you come see us and that person 484 00:16:28,522 --> 00:16:29,523 can 485 00:16:29,523 --> 00:16:30,524 respond. Similar to our annual health 486 00:16:30,524 --> 00:16:32,524 and 487 00:16:32,526 --> 00:16:33,527 wellness physical that we do, we have 488 00:16:33,527 --> 00:16:35,527 a 489 00:16:36,530 --> 00:16:39,533 robust program. That program is strictly 490 00:16:39,533 --> 00:16:41,535 hipaa compliant between the 491 00:16:41,535 --> 00:16:42,536 member and the --we don't see any of 492 00:16:42,536 --> 00:16:44,536 the results. 493 00:16:44,538 --> 00:16:45,539 if they see something that is critical 494 00:16:45,539 --> 00:16:47,539 in nature, 495 00:16:48,509 --> 00:16:50,909 they take the initiative 496 00:16:51,512 --> 00:16:54,512 and coordinates the care of 497 00:16:54,515 --> 00:16:56,915 that member. We only 498 00:16:57,518 --> 00:16:58,519 get aggregate -- we have ten firefighters 499 00:16:58,519 --> 00:17:00,519 that 500 00:17:00,521 --> 00:17:02,921 have high blood pressure. 501 00:17:03,524 --> 00:17:06,527 I suspect this will be similar 502 00:17:06,527 --> 00:17:07,528 to mental health problems. We don't 503 00:17:07,528 --> 00:17:09,528 want to 504 00:17:09,530 --> 00:17:10,531 be involved in it, but we want a one- 505 00:17:10,531 --> 00:17:12,531 stop shop. 506 00:17:12,533 --> 00:17:13,534 that's where we want to go. We have to 507 00:17:13,534 --> 00:17:14,535 know 508 00:17:14,535 --> 00:17:15,536 where we are to see where we need 509 00:17:15,536 --> 00:17:16,537 to go. 510 00:17:16,537 --> 00:17:18,537 >> absolutely. >> 511 00:17:18,539 --> 00:17:21,508 that's kind of why this money 512 00:17:21,508 --> 00:17:22,509 a -- 513 00:17:22,509 --> 00:17:23,510 >> 514 00:17:23,510 --> 00:17:24,511 uh-huh. 515 00:17:24,511 --> 00:17:26,513 >> I agree with the comment 516 00:17:26,513 --> 00:17:27,514 you made earlier about rather than 517 00:17:27,514 --> 00:17:29,514 funding for -- 518 00:17:30,517 --> 00:17:32,517 going back to 519 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:35,520 ncso requests, 520 00:17:36,523 --> 00:17:38,525 to just see how it's working for the 521 00:17:38,525 --> 00:17:40,527 other county. That's probably a good 522 00:17:40,527 --> 00:17:43,527 use of that. Let's see 523 00:17:43,530 --> 00:17:44,531 if it's working. 524 00:17:44,531 --> 00:17:46,531 >> was 525 00:17:46,533 --> 00:17:48,533 there any 526 00:17:49,536 --> 00:17:50,537 supporting justification 527 00:17:50,537 --> 00:17:52,506 evidence of how many times they run 528 00:17:52,506 --> 00:17:54,506 on calls, 529 00:17:54,508 --> 00:17:55,509 if they need this type of equipment, 530 00:17:55,509 --> 00:17:57,509 where the 531 00:17:57,511 --> 00:17:59,513 other resources are? You may know 532 00:17:59,513 --> 00:18:01,515 that, deborah, from your perspective 533 00:18:01,515 --> 00:18:03,515 of where this 534 00:18:04,518 --> 00:18:06,520 level of resource falls. 535 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:07,521 do we have it anywhere around here? 536 00:18:07,521 --> 00:18:09,521 is it 537 00:18:09,523 --> 00:18:10,524 nowhere around here? Because, I mean, 538 00:18:10,524 --> 00:18:12,524 a 539 00:18:13,527 --> 00:18:15,529 field speck is a pretty robust 540 00:18:15,529 --> 00:18:16,530 piece of equipment. There's a training 541 00:18:16,530 --> 00:18:18,532 component that goes with 542 00:18:18,532 --> 00:18:19,533 that as well. Do you know that, deborah? 543 00:18:19,533 --> 00:18:20,534 >> I 544 00:18:20,534 --> 00:18:22,536 am aware of this company and they 545 00:18:22,536 --> 00:18:24,536 provide 546 00:18:25,539 --> 00:18:27,539 the training when 547 00:18:28,509 --> 00:18:29,510 you 548 00:18:29,510 --> 00:18:31,512 purchase. That will be included in 549 00:18:31,512 --> 00:18:33,912 the pricing. The other 550 00:18:34,515 --> 00:18:37,518 thing I can say is this is a 551 00:18:37,518 --> 00:18:39,518 better product than 552 00:18:40,521 --> 00:18:42,521 the one 553 00:18:43,524 --> 00:18:46,527 that --this is newer. The one 554 00:18:46,527 --> 00:18:48,527 that jso, the 555 00:18:48,529 --> 00:18:52,129 funding they were given for those 556 00:18:52,533 --> 00:18:54,535 devices, was a couple years ago. This 557 00:18:54,535 --> 00:18:55,536 is just a newer product on the market. 558 00:18:55,536 --> 00:18:57,536 the database 559 00:18:58,539 --> 00:19:00,539 for the drugs 560 00:19:01,508 --> 00:19:03,508 is significantly better, 561 00:19:04,511 --> 00:19:06,511 more robust. 562 00:19:07,514 --> 00:19:09,514 it's able 563 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:15,520 to --[ inaudible ] 564 00:19:19,526 --> 00:19:21,526 especially 565 00:19:21,528 --> 00:19:22,529 if they're doing --I don't know these 566 00:19:22,529 --> 00:19:24,929 numbers off the top 567 00:19:25,532 --> 00:19:27,532 of my head. 568 00:19:28,535 --> 00:19:30,535 like drug 569 00:19:31,538 --> 00:19:33,507 checking on --instead of having to 570 00:19:33,507 --> 00:19:34,508 go back to the lab. Obviously they 571 00:19:34,508 --> 00:19:36,508 could 572 00:19:36,510 --> 00:19:37,511 do it here and have lab confirmation, 573 00:19:37,511 --> 00:19:39,511 but that 574 00:19:40,514 --> 00:19:42,514 could take 575 00:19:43,517 --> 00:19:45,517 weeks. [ 576 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:48,520 inaudible ] 577 00:19:49,523 --> 00:19:51,523 >> the 578 00:19:51,525 --> 00:19:52,526 emergency room too, if a person is 579 00:19:52,526 --> 00:19:54,526 taken to 580 00:19:55,529 --> 00:19:56,530 the emergency room, more quickly identifying 581 00:19:56,530 --> 00:19:58,530 what 582 00:19:58,532 --> 00:19:59,533 the person has taken. 583 00:19:59,533 --> 00:20:00,534 >> 584 00:20:00,534 --> 00:20:01,535 any supporting evidence on volume 585 00:20:01,535 --> 00:20:03,535 of calls 586 00:20:04,538 --> 00:20:06,538 or anything 587 00:20:07,508 --> 00:20:08,509 like that? 588 00:20:08,509 --> 00:20:10,511 >> I don't believe so. 589 00:20:10,511 --> 00:20:12,513 I don't have the call volume on how 590 00:20:12,513 --> 00:20:13,514 their calls break out through dispatch 591 00:20:13,514 --> 00:20:14,515 for them. 592 00:20:14,515 --> 00:20:15,516 >> 593 00:20:15,516 --> 00:20:16,517 these questions are not because I'm 594 00:20:16,517 --> 00:20:17,518 opposed to anything. 595 00:20:17,518 --> 00:20:19,520 it's just me trying to understand. 596 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:21,522 when we're trying to 597 00:20:21,522 --> 00:20:22,523 build longer term capability and capacity, 598 00:20:22,523 --> 00:20:24,523 we 599 00:20:25,526 --> 00:20:27,926 want to work towards 600 00:20:28,529 --> 00:20:29,530 something versus just -- 601 00:20:29,530 --> 00:20:31,530 >> 602 00:20:31,532 --> 00:20:33,534 a call might be a dd call and 603 00:20:33,534 --> 00:20:34,535 when they get there there's drugs 604 00:20:34,535 --> 00:20:36,535 all over 605 00:20:37,538 --> 00:20:39,506 the place. The call volume might not 606 00:20:39,506 --> 00:20:40,507 reflect how often they might need 607 00:20:40,507 --> 00:20:42,507 to test. 608 00:20:42,509 --> 00:20:43,510 it's probably underreported. 609 00:20:43,510 --> 00:20:45,510 >> I 610 00:20:46,513 --> 00:20:49,513 would anticipate so. Yes, I 611 00:20:49,516 --> 00:20:51,516 would anticipate 612 00:20:52,519 --> 00:20:53,520 that. 613 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:54,521 >> generally they're 614 00:20:54,521 --> 00:20:55,522 about 120,000 calls a year coming 615 00:20:55,522 --> 00:20:57,522 out 616 00:20:57,524 --> 00:20:58,525 of the sheriff's department. That's 617 00:20:58,525 --> 00:21:00,525 all types of 618 00:21:01,528 --> 00:21:03,530 calls, all types of things. You never 619 00:21:03,530 --> 00:21:04,531 know what you're going for. On the 620 00:21:04,531 --> 00:21:06,531 outside, 621 00:21:06,533 --> 00:21:07,534 not knowing the operational component, 622 00:21:07,534 --> 00:21:09,534 this 623 00:21:10,537 --> 00:21:13,507 is --my vision is this is a 624 00:21:13,507 --> 00:21:16,507 tool that the sergeants get 625 00:21:16,510 --> 00:21:17,511 and they call for him and he's got 626 00:21:17,511 --> 00:21:19,511 the tool 627 00:21:19,513 --> 00:21:21,513 to do 628 00:21:22,516 --> 00:21:23,517 it. 629 00:21:23,517 --> 00:21:25,517 >> it's one 630 00:21:25,519 --> 00:21:28,522 of those tools people put in 631 00:21:28,522 --> 00:21:29,523 a tool box and, when you need it, 632 00:21:29,523 --> 00:21:31,523 you need it. 633 00:21:31,525 --> 00:21:34,528 we don't have the capability to recognize 634 00:21:34,528 --> 00:21:36,928 those kind of drugs. 635 00:21:37,531 --> 00:21:39,931 if there are other 636 00:21:40,534 --> 00:21:42,536 hazard materials, it can tell you 637 00:21:42,536 --> 00:21:43,537 what it is and what it's not. If this 638 00:21:43,537 --> 00:21:45,537 particular one 639 00:21:46,507 --> 00:21:48,509 is that sensitive, then I think it's 640 00:21:48,509 --> 00:21:49,510 just another component that, when they 641 00:21:49,510 --> 00:21:51,510 get there 642 00:21:51,512 --> 00:21:52,513 and say we don't know what this white 643 00:21:52,513 --> 00:21:54,513 powder is, they 644 00:21:55,516 --> 00:21:57,916 need to call us. 645 00:22:01,522 --> 00:22:02,523 then we can try to figure it out. 646 00:22:02,523 --> 00:22:04,523 >> right. 647 00:22:10,531 --> 00:22:12,533 >> everything is white powder. >> of 648 00:22:12,533 --> 00:22:13,534 course. 649 00:22:13,534 --> 00:22:14,535 >> so that would be better 650 00:22:14,535 --> 00:22:15,536 for us. 651 00:22:15,536 --> 00:22:16,537 >> the 652 00:22:16,537 --> 00:22:19,506 last thing is with the -- 653 00:22:19,506 --> 00:22:21,506 it detects over 654 00:22:21,508 --> 00:22:22,509 23,000 different substances and can 655 00:22:22,509 --> 00:22:24,509 detect up to 656 00:22:25,512 --> 00:22:26,513 100 feet away. You're not touching 657 00:22:26,513 --> 00:22:28,513 the white 658 00:22:28,515 --> 00:22:31,518 powder. You're staying safe just in 659 00:22:31,518 --> 00:22:32,519 case you don't get contaminated with 660 00:22:32,519 --> 00:22:33,520 anything. 661 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:34,521 >> 662 00:22:34,521 --> 00:22:35,522 if it turns out to be that useful 663 00:22:35,522 --> 00:22:37,522 of 664 00:22:37,524 --> 00:22:41,528 an item, then maybe in years to come 665 00:22:41,528 --> 00:22:42,529 we budget for that 666 00:22:42,529 --> 00:22:46,129 for hazmat. Just another tool they 667 00:22:47,534 --> 00:22:49,534 could use to 668 00:22:50,537 --> 00:22:52,537 help 669 00:22:53,507 --> 00:22:54,508 with services. 670 00:22:54,508 --> 00:22:56,508 >> 671 00:22:56,510 --> 00:22:59,513 just one additional one. I know 672 00:22:59,513 --> 00:23:01,513 that our other 673 00:23:01,515 --> 00:23:02,516 awardees gave us an update how the 674 00:23:02,516 --> 00:23:03,517 dollars 675 00:23:03,517 --> 00:23:05,519 were used and the benefit and that type 676 00:23:05,519 --> 00:23:07,919 of thing. Do we 677 00:23:08,522 --> 00:23:11,522 have that same ask with 678 00:23:11,525 --> 00:23:13,525 these dollars? 679 00:23:14,528 --> 00:23:15,529 >> so the advantage of the 680 00:23:15,529 --> 00:23:17,531 fire department being over here and 681 00:23:17,531 --> 00:23:20,531 the fire funding went to 682 00:23:20,534 --> 00:23:23,534 them. We can provide update 683 00:23:23,537 --> 00:23:26,507 s to the board to make sure -- 684 00:23:26,507 --> 00:23:28,507 craig, you 685 00:23:29,510 --> 00:23:31,510 know the scopes 686 00:23:35,516 --> 00:23:37,516 and -- 687 00:23:38,519 --> 00:23:39,520 >> when we have 688 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:41,522 to use it, it's because something 689 00:23:41,522 --> 00:23:43,522 bad 690 00:23:44,525 --> 00:23:47,528 is happening. For us the tool 691 00:23:47,528 --> 00:23:49,928 is working great, better 692 00:23:50,531 --> 00:23:53,534 than the endoscopies we've had in 693 00:23:53,534 --> 00:23:54,535 the past. People are using them. 694 00:23:54,535 --> 00:23:55,536 >> 695 00:23:55,536 --> 00:23:56,537 that's 696 00:23:56,537 --> 00:23:57,538 good. 697 00:23:57,538 --> 00:23:58,539 >> other items sometimes we 698 00:23:58,539 --> 00:23:59,506 bought the 699 00:23:59,506 --> 00:24:02,509 new and improved and it sat there. 700 00:24:02,509 --> 00:24:04,509 >> right. >> that is 701 00:24:05,512 --> 00:24:07,912 working well. As far 702 00:24:08,515 --> 00:24:10,515 as the 703 00:24:11,518 --> 00:24:13,518 ambulance, they're 704 00:24:14,521 --> 00:24:16,521 securing --[ 705 00:24:16,523 --> 00:24:17,524 inaudible ] that hasn't been firmed 706 00:24:17,524 --> 00:24:19,524 up yet. That's 707 00:24:20,527 --> 00:24:22,529 still a work in progress. 708 00:24:22,529 --> 00:24:23,530 that money is still sitting there 709 00:24:23,530 --> 00:24:25,530 waiting for 710 00:24:26,533 --> 00:24:28,933 the july contract. Get 711 00:24:29,536 --> 00:24:32,536 on somebody's work list and 712 00:24:32,539 --> 00:24:34,539 then send it 713 00:24:35,509 --> 00:24:36,510 off. 714 00:24:36,510 --> 00:24:38,510 >> we're looking at 715 00:24:38,512 --> 00:24:40,512 doing a remount 716 00:24:41,515 --> 00:24:43,915 and cutting down the 717 00:24:44,518 --> 00:24:46,520 timeline. We talked about 718 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:49,523 the tax payer expense and it's expensive. 719 00:24:49,523 --> 00:24:50,524 remounts are a cheaper process to 720 00:24:50,524 --> 00:24:52,524 go without 721 00:24:53,527 --> 00:24:55,527 any diminished 722 00:24:56,530 --> 00:24:58,530 quality 723 00:25:02,536 --> 00:25:04,536 essentially. [ inaudible ] 724 00:25:10,511 --> 00:25:11,512 >> any other comments? >> good questions. 725 00:25:11,512 --> 00:25:13,512 >> thank you. 726 00:25:14,515 --> 00:25:16,515 >> 727 00:25:17,518 --> 00:25:18,519 ready for a motion? 728 00:25:18,519 --> 00:25:20,519 >> I would like 729 00:25:20,521 --> 00:25:23,521 to make a motion that 730 00:25:23,524 --> 00:25:26,527 we split the money, split the baby -- 731 00:25:26,527 --> 00:25:28,527 >> 50% each. 732 00:25:29,530 --> 00:25:32,530 >> --50% each to fire rescue 733 00:25:32,533 --> 00:25:33,534 and ncfs. 734 00:25:33,534 --> 00:25:35,534 >> for 735 00:25:35,536 --> 00:25:36,537 the proposal as submitted. 736 00:25:36,537 --> 00:25:38,537 >> 737 00:25:38,539 --> 00:25:39,506 yes. 738 00:25:39,506 --> 00:25:41,506 >> second? >> yes. >> 739 00:25:41,508 --> 00:25:44,508 motion by dr. Pagel and 740 00:25:44,511 --> 00:25:46,511 second by alissa 741 00:25:47,514 --> 00:25:48,515 myatt. All in favor say 742 00:25:48,515 --> 00:25:52,715 aye. Those opposed say no. Motion carries. 743 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,520 anything 744 00:25:55,522 --> 00:25:56,523 else, marshal, on the agenda? 745 00:25:56,523 --> 00:25:57,524 >> that 746 00:25:57,524 --> 00:25:59,524 was 747 00:25:59,526 --> 00:26:01,526 the last item 748 00:26:02,529 --> 00:26:05,532 today. Then we've got a period that 749 00:26:05,532 --> 00:26:08,535 we'll let the new contracts get 750 00:26:08,535 --> 00:26:11,538 in place. I don't know what the 751 00:26:11,538 --> 00:26:13,538 next meeting was 752 00:26:14,508 --> 00:26:16,908 scheduled. We'll look at 753 00:26:17,511 --> 00:26:20,514 that for agenda items august 14th. 754 00:26:20,514 --> 00:26:21,515 high probability we might not have 755 00:26:21,515 --> 00:26:23,515 anything for 756 00:26:23,517 --> 00:26:26,520 that meeting. We'll get the contracts 757 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:27,521 in place and get feedback from 758 00:26:27,521 --> 00:26:29,523 the results of the funds that have 759 00:26:29,523 --> 00:26:30,524 been implemented. 760 00:26:30,524 --> 00:26:32,924 >> anything else? Meeting adjourned.