1 00:05:44,660 --> 00:05:45,604 >> Good morning. 2 00:05:45,604 --> 00:05:48,536 Welcome to the regular meeting of the Development Review 3 00:05:48,536 --> 00:05:49,390 Committee. 4 00:05:49,390 --> 00:05:52,390 Today is Tuesday August 25th, 2026. 5 00:05:53,118 --> 00:05:56,558 My name is Tabitha Bostic with Development services, 6 00:05:56,558 --> 00:05:58,910 and I will be serving as the chair. 7 00:05:58,910 --> 00:06:01,945 Today we have one project submitted for plea application 8 00:06:01,945 --> 00:06:04,630 and two projects that are being recommended to the Department 9 00:06:04,630 --> 00:06:07,630 heads for approval. -- pre-application. 10 00:06:11,338 --> 00:06:15,355 Before we begin I will read the preamble 11 00:06:15,355 --> 00:06:17,563 and then we will have the committee members introduce 12 00:06:17,563 --> 00:06:18,630 themselves. 13 00:06:18,630 --> 00:06:19,870 The Development Review Committee is 14 00:06:19,870 --> 00:06:21,530 a technical advisory committee, not 15 00:06:21,530 --> 00:06:24,270 a decision making body, which makes recommendations 16 00:06:24,270 --> 00:06:26,678 to department heads who provide final approval. 17 00:06:26,678 --> 00:06:28,220 Pre-application meetings are intended 18 00:06:28,220 --> 00:06:30,669 to provide preliminary comments for proposed development 19 00:06:30,669 --> 00:06:32,669 Projects. 20 00:06:34,270 --> 00:06:37,270 Comprehensive reviews will be provided 21 00:06:39,150 --> 00:06:42,590 upon submittal of the preliminary Binding site 22 00:06:42,590 --> 00:06:45,640 plan, site engineering plan, final development 23 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:48,400 plan, or plat application. 24 00:06:49,250 --> 00:06:52,850 Now the members will introduce themselves. 25 00:06:55,415 --> 00:06:58,430 [Roll call] This meeting is being recorded 26 00:06:58,430 --> 00:07:00,290 and will be available following the meeting. 27 00:07:00,290 --> 00:07:03,390 With that, we will begin with tab A. 28 00:07:03,390 --> 00:07:06,990 This applicant here for Tab A? 29 00:07:07,356 --> 00:07:10,118 Please come to the podium, introduce yourself 30 00:07:10,118 --> 00:07:11,910 and tell us about your project. 31 00:07:11,910 --> 00:07:13,614 >> Good morning. 32 00:07:13,614 --> 00:07:17,140 I'm Matt Phillips, southeast engineering group. 33 00:07:17,140 --> 00:07:20,130 I'm here to talk about onshore orthodontics. 34 00:07:20,130 --> 00:07:24,315 It's a proposed orthodontic facility located on US 17, 35 00:07:24,315 --> 00:07:27,590 on the west side of US 17 between pages dairy 36 00:07:27,590 --> 00:07:29,494 and 200 just north of the railroad. 37 00:07:29,494 --> 00:07:32,986 They are proposing a 500 zero square foot space 38 00:07:32,986 --> 00:07:36,230 for their operations and then another 500 zero square foot 39 00:07:36,230 --> 00:07:38,150 for future tenants. 40 00:07:38,150 --> 00:07:43,290 So it's a ten zero zero zero square foot building in total. 41 00:07:43,290 --> 00:07:45,494 Stormwater drainage will be towards the railroad. 42 00:07:45,494 --> 00:07:48,850 We've met with the dot, and they've 43 00:07:48,850 --> 00:07:51,744 asked us to close the median cut in 17. 44 00:07:51,744 --> 00:07:54,663 So we'll have a right in right out driveway. 45 00:07:54,663 --> 00:07:58,547 We plan on doing a directional drill beneath 17 to connect 46 00:07:58,547 --> 00:08:01,890 to the GA e force main on the far side, 47 00:08:01,890 --> 00:08:06,900 and we're proposing an on water -- 48 00:08:06,958 --> 00:08:10,936 on site water treatment plant for domestic water. 49 00:08:10,936 --> 00:08:13,350 >> We will go around and make comments. 50 00:08:13,350 --> 00:08:15,350 >> Good morning. 51 00:08:15,450 --> 00:08:18,145 You're showing the accessible parking and accessible route 52 00:08:18,145 --> 00:08:22,563 already, so we have no further comments at this time. 53 00:08:22,563 --> 00:08:24,963 >> Will Ryder, Planning department. 54 00:08:26,700 --> 00:08:29,780 Have a few notes here. 55 00:08:29,780 --> 00:08:32,940 Your zoning is commercial intensive and your future land 56 00:08:32,940 --> 00:08:33,903 use designation is commercial. 57 00:08:33,903 --> 00:08:38,703 That's good for what you're wanting to do. 58 00:08:39,230 --> 00:08:43,430 It's also situated in the Timber Decides design overlay. 59 00:08:43,430 --> 00:08:47,330 All of the architectural standards and design 60 00:08:47,330 --> 00:08:52,598 standards of timber of tides would apply to this project. 61 00:08:52,598 --> 00:08:55,786 So I'll preface this by saying timber the tides. 62 00:08:55,786 --> 00:08:58,350 Have you heard anything about it? 63 00:08:58,350 --> 00:09:01,270 >> I have heard of it, I haven't done a project all the way 64 00:09:01,270 --> 00:09:04,870 through design and permitting timber to. 65 00:09:06,270 --> 00:09:10,270 >> I think of it as a new urbanist type of design where 66 00:09:10,270 --> 00:09:13,870 there is a lot of emphasis on esthetic architectural standards 67 00:09:13,870 --> 00:09:18,670 creating a sense of community, having green spaces 68 00:09:19,928 --> 00:09:25,300 and gathering areas and those sorts of things with the more 69 00:09:25,300 --> 00:09:28,630 intense developments being around those nodes, 70 00:09:28,642 --> 00:09:33,442 like you would have at US 17 and SR 200. 71 00:09:36,470 --> 00:09:41,110 If you think of old downtown districts with buildings 72 00:09:41,110 --> 00:09:45,462 pulled up to the front, that's what was envisioned 73 00:09:45,462 --> 00:09:47,570 and was adopted by the County Commission. 74 00:09:47,570 --> 00:09:53,438 It roughly extends from a little bit West 95, down to the bridge 75 00:09:53,438 --> 00:09:58,838 and interrupted by EMCPA Wildlife in a couple places. 76 00:10:02,442 --> 00:10:06,302 With that in mind, here's a couple of highlights that 77 00:10:06,302 --> 00:10:07,474 would apply to this project. 78 00:10:07,474 --> 00:10:10,174 You've got the entitlements that this property has not 79 00:10:10,174 --> 00:10:13,534 been rezoned to T5, but it's in the T5 transect. 80 00:10:13,534 --> 00:10:18,598 So you have the entitlement of the commercial intensive zoning 81 00:10:18,598 --> 00:10:21,598 district with those permitted uses. 82 00:10:24,410 --> 00:10:27,370 But you've got the design architectural standard timber 83 00:10:27,370 --> 00:10:28,372 the tides. 84 00:10:28,372 --> 00:10:33,114 Articles 44 and 45 of the Land Development Code would apply. 85 00:10:33,114 --> 00:10:36,454 This is recorded, so you don't necessarily 86 00:10:36,454 --> 00:10:37,813 have to write all of these down. 87 00:10:37,813 --> 00:10:40,230 I'll highlight them and you can go and listen to the video 88 00:10:40,230 --> 00:10:42,230 as well. 89 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:48,360 44.06.01 has a chart, and it's got your site design 90 00:10:50,350 --> 00:10:51,910 and transect standards. 91 00:10:51,910 --> 00:10:55,510 It talks about building frontage, setbacks, 92 00:10:55,870 --> 00:11:00,700 building heights and those sorts of things. 93 00:11:01,110 --> 00:11:03,396 One of the highlights from that chart 94 00:11:03,396 --> 00:11:06,286 is there's a 90 build out requirement on the front. 95 00:11:06,286 --> 00:11:11,686 So your front setback is zero, minimum of zero 96 00:11:11,847 --> 00:11:15,590 and a maximum of ten feet on the front. 97 00:11:15,590 --> 00:11:19,190 90% of the building-- it would have 98 00:11:22,210 --> 00:11:25,810 to be turned from the design that you have, 99 00:11:25,810 --> 00:11:30,610 and extended with 90% of it being between 0 and 10 100 00:11:32,352 --> 00:11:35,352 from the front property line. 101 00:11:36,998 --> 00:11:39,136 There are some exceptions to that 102 00:11:39,136 --> 00:11:43,140 if you went to Municode online, buried in an ordinance, 103 00:11:43,140 --> 00:11:45,230 you're not going to see it because it was just 104 00:11:45,230 --> 00:11:46,174 recently adopted. 105 00:11:46,174 --> 00:11:48,478 There were a couple of exceptions 106 00:11:48,478 --> 00:11:50,750 to that frontage build out. 107 00:11:50,750 --> 00:11:54,950 Calculation of minimum frontage build out, so 108 00:11:56,710 --> 00:11:59,710 excludes access, drives, pedestrian walkways, 109 00:12:02,323 --> 00:12:05,186 required setbacks and any required buffer or screen. 110 00:12:05,186 --> 00:12:07,150 So that would give you a break there. 111 00:12:07,150 --> 00:12:09,847 Than 90% frontage buildout is a big one, 112 00:12:09,847 --> 00:12:13,478 and then your side setbacks are zero, minimum setbacks 113 00:12:13,478 --> 00:12:15,327 and rear setback of ten feet. 114 00:12:15,327 --> 00:12:17,678 The big one is the front there. 115 00:12:17,678 --> 00:12:23,780 The other thing Is, LDC land Development Code 44.06.02 has 116 00:12:25,430 --> 00:12:29,300 a civic or social space requirement. 117 00:12:31,110 --> 00:12:34,234 Those are things like there are some choices there 118 00:12:34,234 --> 00:12:36,363 that you have with the T5. 119 00:12:36,363 --> 00:12:39,830 There's a passive park, a playground. 120 00:12:39,830 --> 00:12:42,230 There is a plaza square. 121 00:12:42,230 --> 00:12:45,342 But the plaza and the square have minimum size requirements 122 00:12:45,342 --> 00:12:47,216 of a half acre. 123 00:12:47,216 --> 00:12:53,816 So there is a requirement for this social green area that's 124 00:12:54,595 --> 00:12:56,995 required in this district. 125 00:12:58,110 --> 00:13:04,710 If you're interested in pursuing this, and I hope you are, 126 00:13:06,821 --> 00:13:10,421 let's have subsequent conversations about that 127 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:15,710 and see if there is some way to maybe employ 128 00:13:15,710 --> 00:13:19,323 those to the frontage requirements somehow or another. 129 00:13:19,323 --> 00:13:22,456 I don't know if that's going to be an option or not. 130 00:13:22,456 --> 00:13:24,761 We went in discussion with that. 131 00:13:24,761 --> 00:13:28,700 This is a lot of new code for a lot of us. 132 00:13:28,700 --> 00:13:30,805 Sorting through all of it, and there 133 00:13:30,805 --> 00:13:33,676 may be some ways that perhaps would be helpful on that. 134 00:13:33,676 --> 00:13:36,600 The main entrance of the building 135 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:39,262 with that new urban design in mind, 136 00:13:39,262 --> 00:13:42,830 the main entrance of the building is got to face us 17. 137 00:13:42,830 --> 00:13:44,630 If you've got to have that much frontage, 138 00:13:44,630 --> 00:13:49,502 it would be running that way anyways, I would imagine. 139 00:13:49,502 --> 00:13:53,702 Table 44-5, you have a required frontage. 140 00:13:54,968 --> 00:13:57,100 That's the area between the front of the building 141 00:13:57,100 --> 00:13:58,177 and the public right of way. 142 00:13:58,177 --> 00:14:00,606 It's not a big area, but there's different types 143 00:14:00,606 --> 00:14:06,926 of frontages in there that you can look at and pick one. 144 00:14:06,926 --> 00:14:12,700 The edge conditions and the need for a multi-use trail 145 00:14:12,700 --> 00:14:16,280 requirement for a multi-use trail is a requirement as well. 146 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:20,230 I think multi-use trail where a sidewalk would typically go. 147 00:14:20,230 --> 00:14:23,520 But I think Tim will probably talk more about that. 148 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:26,520 The landscaping is requirements in 45.04.05, 149 00:14:29,422 --> 00:14:33,622 and the lighting and sound requirements are 45.04.06. 150 00:14:35,893 --> 00:14:39,493 Like all projects, even outside timber, 151 00:14:43,300 --> 00:14:46,603 LDC 45.05.06 you have dumpsters, mechanical equipment, 152 00:14:49,483 --> 00:14:50,566 service areas. 153 00:14:50,566 --> 00:14:51,983 Those have to be screened. 154 00:14:51,983 --> 00:14:54,790 They have to be on the side of the rear of the building. 155 00:14:54,790 --> 00:14:57,343 Architectural standards, there's a lot of them. 156 00:14:57,343 --> 00:14:59,222 Don't need to go through all of this. 157 00:14:59,222 --> 00:15:02,222 There's 45.05.02 as the architectural standards. 158 00:15:03,328 --> 00:15:05,360 That will give you the requirements 159 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:07,360 on material requirements. 160 00:15:07,216 --> 00:15:13,216 You're located in an activity center called The Yulee Historic 161 00:15:20,361 --> 00:15:22,361 Activity Center. 162 00:15:25,670 --> 00:15:28,343 That's the name of the activity center. 163 00:15:28,343 --> 00:15:33,143 You have to pick a different historic mercantile, 164 00:15:34,750 --> 00:15:35,483 mid-century. 165 00:15:35,483 --> 00:15:38,336 There's several architectural styles in there, 166 00:15:38,336 --> 00:15:40,483 and the building would have to mirror one of those, 167 00:15:40,483 --> 00:15:43,150 and you would get some flexibility with the building 168 00:15:43,150 --> 00:15:47,950 materials and that is all laid out in 45.05.02. 169 00:15:50,670 --> 00:15:53,431 And the parking is required to be to the rear. 170 00:15:53,431 --> 00:15:56,210 That would be what you need to do anyways if you 171 00:15:56,210 --> 00:15:57,994 shift this building location. 172 00:15:57,994 --> 00:16:00,870 And the other one that is a big one, and maybe I 173 00:16:00,870 --> 00:16:06,870 saved the worst for last, it's in the activity center. 174 00:16:10,271 --> 00:16:14,310 The building's got to be two stories. 175 00:16:14,310 --> 00:16:17,372 I was looking for anything in the code 176 00:16:17,372 --> 00:16:19,580 where the second story did not have to be functional. 177 00:16:19,580 --> 00:16:22,334 I haven't found anything like that. 178 00:16:22,334 --> 00:16:26,407 So you've got to have two stories. 179 00:16:26,407 --> 00:16:29,830 But I think if you're interested in this, 180 00:16:29,830 --> 00:16:31,980 I think it might be helpful to have a meeting with planning 181 00:16:31,980 --> 00:16:36,780 staff and development services with Tim and Caleb. 182 00:16:37,403 --> 00:16:40,610 It sounds like a lot, and it is. 183 00:16:40,610 --> 00:16:44,210 I'm not going to sugarcoat that. 184 00:16:44,550 --> 00:16:45,846 It's doable. 185 00:16:45,846 --> 00:16:51,846 It just depends on if you're interested in pursuing it. 186 00:16:53,302 --> 00:16:56,302 We're happy to help you. 187 00:16:56,470 --> 00:16:57,896 >> You had me until two stories. 188 00:16:57,896 --> 00:17:00,790 I was okay with everything else. 189 00:17:00,790 --> 00:17:03,190 >> That's a tough one. 190 00:17:04,230 --> 00:17:05,811 I probably should have said that earlier. 191 00:17:05,811 --> 00:17:08,390 We don't want to help you through this process. 192 00:17:08,390 --> 00:17:13,790 Working within the regulations, and that may sound strange. 193 00:17:14,729 --> 00:17:17,403 >> Is there a process where we can request relief from the two 194 00:17:17,403 --> 00:17:18,510 story requirement? 195 00:17:18,510 --> 00:17:21,510 >> There are some relief provisions, 196 00:17:21,860 --> 00:17:23,887 since you used that word. 197 00:17:23,887 --> 00:17:28,687 I like that word in Timber to Tides. 198 00:17:30,434 --> 00:17:33,752 The one that comes to mind is the planning director, 199 00:17:33,752 --> 00:17:36,152 Elizabeth Beck, my boss. 200 00:17:38,190 --> 00:17:44,790 She has some leeway on A bit of the frontage builder 201 00:17:47,910 --> 00:17:48,422 requirement. 202 00:17:48,422 --> 00:17:53,350 Don't hold me on that, but there are some provisions in there. 203 00:17:53,350 --> 00:17:58,750 Not for the second story requirement I don't think. 204 00:17:59,414 --> 00:18:03,300 But there is some leeway for the frontage requirement 205 00:18:03,300 --> 00:18:06,563 and I think there's a few other points in there too. 206 00:18:06,563 --> 00:18:08,976 Not sure if they would be helpful or not. 207 00:18:08,976 --> 00:18:12,950 I think maybe trying to get creative with some 208 00:18:12,950 --> 00:18:17,923 of the green space requirements and that sort of thing 209 00:18:17,923 --> 00:18:19,923 might be helpful. 210 00:18:24,230 --> 00:18:27,830 I'll try to sort through this. 211 00:18:30,350 --> 00:18:33,350 90% is a long orthodontics office. 212 00:18:38,630 --> 00:18:41,283 If you didn't have that buildout requirement, 213 00:18:41,283 --> 00:18:44,398 you could accomplish some of that with the second floor. 214 00:18:44,398 --> 00:18:49,798 Which -- with the second floor and the furniture. 215 00:18:51,190 --> 00:18:52,734 That's a tough one. 216 00:18:52,734 --> 00:18:55,302 You'll obviously have the things that you can get relief on. 217 00:18:55,302 --> 00:18:58,230 You obviously have an access drive that won't count. 218 00:18:58,230 --> 00:19:01,230 There are some required setbacks. 219 00:19:01,503 --> 00:19:05,536 Required buffering and screening of those edge conditions. 220 00:19:05,536 --> 00:19:08,525 Maybe that could be helpful. 221 00:19:08,525 --> 00:19:13,925 Maybe looking at it with this green space requirement 222 00:19:14,270 --> 00:19:19,670 actually could be helpful, because you're trying to reduce 223 00:19:19,754 --> 00:19:23,200 the length of that to be able to go that way without getting 224 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:26,335 absurd on square footage for what you're trying to do. 225 00:19:26,335 --> 00:19:31,190 I'd be happy to meet with you at any point. 226 00:19:31,190 --> 00:19:35,350 >> Do the architectural standards apply to the frontage? 227 00:19:35,350 --> 00:19:38,573 >> What's people from the right of way, 228 00:19:38,573 --> 00:19:42,981 the materials have to be consistent all the way around. 229 00:19:42,981 --> 00:19:44,981 >> Thank you. 230 00:19:45,452 --> 00:19:48,452 >> Tim Davidson with development services. 231 00:19:50,470 --> 00:19:54,390 Will mentioned a little bit about the edge zone in timber. 232 00:19:54,390 --> 00:19:57,430 That section 17 is called Urban Edge zone. 233 00:19:57,430 --> 00:20:02,670 You can find all of this in the planning section of the website, 234 00:20:02,670 --> 00:20:05,700 the whole timber document. 235 00:20:05,570 --> 00:20:09,170 Figure 45.05 identifies that urban edge zone. 236 00:20:11,150 --> 00:20:14,134 And it's illustrated in figure 45-19. 237 00:20:14,134 --> 00:20:20,134 There's an eight foot minimum public seating zone, ten foot 238 00:20:20,390 --> 00:20:25,405 trail, which will mention in an eight foot street buffer 239 00:20:25,405 --> 00:20:28,405 that you'd have to incorporate. 240 00:20:28,443 --> 00:20:30,390 The rest of my comments don't have anything 241 00:20:30,390 --> 00:20:32,870 to do with timber to tides. 242 00:20:32,870 --> 00:20:37,670 17 is a dot road, so any improvements in 17 243 00:20:40,940 --> 00:20:44,294 will have to be permitted through FDOT. 244 00:20:44,973 --> 00:20:47,598 And you're showing that you have a connection out to the trail. 245 00:20:47,598 --> 00:20:50,310 That sidewalk needs to be a six foot minimum. 246 00:20:50,310 --> 00:20:53,760 >> I don't believe it is now. 247 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:54,576 And we don't have right of way there 248 00:20:54,576 --> 00:20:59,235 to make it wider without getting into the utility zone, which 249 00:20:59,235 --> 00:21:01,410 I don't know if the Dot is going to want 250 00:21:01,410 --> 00:21:03,624 us to extend that sidewalk right up to the back of their curb. 251 00:21:03,624 --> 00:21:07,334 What do we do in that situation? 252 00:21:07,334 --> 00:21:09,550 >> I'm not sure I understand. 253 00:21:09,550 --> 00:21:14,915 >> Do I need to widen the sidewalk along the front >> I 254 00:21:14,915 --> 00:21:17,290 don't know that we have ten foot between the right of way 255 00:21:17,290 --> 00:21:18,418 and the back of curb. 256 00:21:18,418 --> 00:21:20,668 We don't have enough right of way to accommodate that, 257 00:21:20,668 --> 00:21:24,930 do we need to give you an easement? 258 00:21:24,930 --> 00:21:24,916 >> Yes. 259 00:21:24,916 --> 00:21:28,590 Sometimes the trail does meander on the property, so 260 00:21:28,590 --> 00:21:30,590 an access easement. 261 00:21:32,107 --> 00:21:34,107 >> Per BSCC resolution 2019, 174. 262 00:21:39,148 --> 00:21:42,550 All development requires a traffic impact analysis. 263 00:21:42,550 --> 00:21:45,460 First step is to call our traffic engineer Andrew 264 00:21:45,460 --> 00:21:46,955 to discuss the requirements. 265 00:21:46,955 --> 00:21:48,950 We'll look at the trip generation and so forth 266 00:21:48,950 --> 00:21:50,200 and surrounding intersections. 267 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,350 This is to determine what will be needed 268 00:21:52,350 --> 00:21:54,238 if anything to be analyzed. 269 00:21:54,238 --> 00:21:55,863 I want to call attention to the article 270 00:21:55,863 --> 00:21:57,400 ten of the roadway and standards, 271 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:00,430 it's our stormwater management requirements. 272 00:22:00,430 --> 00:22:01,830 It largely aligns with Saint John's. 273 00:22:01,830 --> 00:22:05,643 I will note a few things that sometimes people miss. 274 00:22:05,643 --> 00:22:11,430 The pond has to contain 100 year storm type of bank. 275 00:22:11,430 --> 00:22:14,710 We do require stormwater maintenance plan. 276 00:22:14,710 --> 00:22:16,563 Once you get approval for the site, 277 00:22:16,563 --> 00:22:18,650 we have construction inspection fees. 278 00:22:18,650 --> 00:22:19,934 Those are listed online. 279 00:22:19,934 --> 00:22:22,510 We have an engineering checklist in the development services 280 00:22:22,510 --> 00:22:27,402 section of the website that will help you along with the-- 281 00:22:27,402 --> 00:22:30,940 I would like to note that section 61 states 282 00:22:30,940 --> 00:22:32,620 DRC approval shall be obtained prior 283 00:22:32,620 --> 00:22:34,990 to commencement of all projects to breaking ground. 284 00:22:34,990 --> 00:22:38,894 >> One of the things that the owner wanted to do was maximize 285 00:22:38,894 --> 00:22:42,590 parking on the site, which I know your LDC has a 10% 286 00:22:42,590 --> 00:22:46,670 limitation over the code minimum parking as a maximum. 287 00:22:46,670 --> 00:22:48,670 Is that right? 288 00:22:50,242 --> 00:22:53,190 >> I think that's more planning. 289 00:22:53,190 --> 00:22:56,330 >> The question is if they perceive this project and half 290 00:22:56,330 --> 00:22:57,616 the building is a space that's vacant, 291 00:22:57,616 --> 00:23:00,470 can we assume a worst case intensity to maximize 292 00:23:00,470 --> 00:23:02,350 the parking for that situation? 293 00:23:02,350 --> 00:23:06,518 How do we make sure we don't exceed a maximum number, 294 00:23:06,518 --> 00:23:09,372 but yet at the same time maximize the amount of parking 295 00:23:09,372 --> 00:23:11,700 we put on the site? 296 00:23:11,700 --> 00:23:15,178 >> Let me go back to the parking requirements on that and get 297 00:23:15,178 --> 00:23:18,178 back with you on that. 298 00:23:28,419 --> 00:23:30,819 >> That's all I had. 299 00:23:31,578 --> 00:23:33,146 Thank you. 300 00:23:33,146 --> 00:23:35,146 >> Environmental health. 301 00:23:35,580 --> 00:23:39,560 I know you said you are going to connect to JEA. 302 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,600 We need a letter of availability from them 303 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:44,710 because currently there are no utilities there. 304 00:23:44,710 --> 00:23:45,824 >> We can provide it. 305 00:23:45,824 --> 00:23:47,358 I think we already have that. 306 00:23:47,358 --> 00:23:48,990 There's no water out there. 307 00:23:48,990 --> 00:23:52,430 They're telling us there's a force 308 00:23:52,430 --> 00:23:56,910 main on the east side of us 17, and we can share that with you, 309 00:23:56,910 --> 00:24:01,660 >> We just need a letter that they can provide it to you. 310 00:24:01,660 --> 00:24:02,552 That's fine. 311 00:24:02,552 --> 00:24:04,268 That's it. 312 00:24:04,268 --> 00:24:05,908 >> No problem. 313 00:24:05,908 --> 00:24:07,908 >> Good morning. 314 00:24:07,949 --> 00:24:09,949 Fire Marshal office. 315 00:24:13,710 --> 00:24:19,920 As there is no hydrant within 500ft of this building, 316 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:23,990 what is the proposed location, you would have to have a pond 317 00:24:23,990 --> 00:24:28,700 with a 50 year drought study that has a drought hydrant. 318 00:24:28,700 --> 00:24:31,176 If you go that route from the placement of the dry hydrant, 319 00:24:31,176 --> 00:24:33,422 it has to be 100ft distance before you actually have 320 00:24:33,422 --> 00:24:34,286 a structure. 321 00:24:34,286 --> 00:24:40,886 I don't know if that's going to work in this configuration. 322 00:24:44,430 --> 00:24:48,870 Alterations where the building is facing everything and that 323 00:24:48,870 --> 00:24:51,870 may -- outside of that. 324 00:24:53,260 --> 00:24:57,400 You have to have a tank that is capable of holding 325 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:03,400 the required water supply for fire flow for that building. 326 00:25:05,452 --> 00:25:12,520 Roadway US 17 is going to be wide enough and the Parking 327 00:25:12,916 --> 00:25:16,430 or drive through is going to be wide enough at least 20ft. 328 00:25:16,430 --> 00:25:22,430 It's not going to be considered a dead end because you 329 00:25:22,430 --> 00:25:25,430 don't have 150ft of driveway. 330 00:25:27,630 --> 00:25:30,590 According to what will have said since the building 331 00:25:30,590 --> 00:25:32,230 is going to face on the front. 332 00:25:32,230 --> 00:25:40,630 Anything that is -- we just so the base thing is going to be 333 00:25:41,830 --> 00:25:43,550 providing water source. 334 00:25:43,550 --> 00:25:50,750 >> We were hoping to do a dry hydrant on a wet pond. 335 00:25:53,870 --> 00:25:57,488 We are negotiating with CSX right now on that. 336 00:25:57,488 --> 00:26:00,254 It may not be an option but could you repeat what you said 337 00:26:00,254 --> 00:26:01,550 about 150ft from dry? 338 00:26:01,550 --> 00:26:04,510 What is the requirement there? 339 00:26:04,510 --> 00:26:11,110 >> So the fire code parts at least a minimum of 100ft 340 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,350 distance between the hydrogen and the building. 341 00:26:19,350 --> 00:26:21,923 >> And then when we configure the parking, 342 00:26:21,923 --> 00:26:25,310 I don't know if we'll exceed 150ft dead end, 343 00:26:25,310 --> 00:26:28,110 but can you give me the fire apparatus specs so we can make 344 00:26:28,110 --> 00:26:31,110 sure we turn it around? 345 00:26:31,710 --> 00:26:35,256 >> So if you had a driveway that was 150ft from the front 346 00:26:35,256 --> 00:26:37,434 of the property, it requires a turnaround, 347 00:26:37,434 --> 00:26:40,641 which would be the T shape because you're not going to be 348 00:26:40,641 --> 00:26:44,625 able to get a -- >> And if we don't want to do a tank and we 349 00:26:44,625 --> 00:26:48,338 can't do a pond because of CSX, do we have the option to do 350 00:26:48,338 --> 00:26:50,338 a fire well? 351 00:26:53,455 --> 00:26:55,194 >> You do not. 352 00:26:55,194 --> 00:26:57,194 >> Okay, thank you. 353 00:26:58,310 --> 00:27:01,190 >> Did you have any questions? 354 00:27:01,190 --> 00:27:04,374 >> No, you've answered all my questions. 355 00:27:04,374 --> 00:27:06,550 Thank you for your time. 356 00:27:06,550 --> 00:27:09,550 >> With that, we will conclude tab A and move 357 00:27:09,550 --> 00:27:14,350 in to our Approval tab B, SP25-032. 358 00:27:19,606 --> 00:27:23,206 Do you all have any comments? 359 00:27:24,630 --> 00:27:27,310 >> Planning department has no comment. 360 00:27:27,310 --> 00:27:30,310 >> Building department has no comment. 361 00:27:31,300 --> 00:27:34,300 >> Environmental health has no comments. 362 00:27:35,190 --> 00:27:38,190 >> Fire Marshal has no comments. 363 00:27:41,251 --> 00:27:46,651 >> Tab C, SP25-055 Charis Eating Disorder Expansion Approval. 364 00:28:01,655 --> 00:28:03,655 Any comments? 365 00:28:08,742 --> 00:28:10,742 >> No further comments. 366 00:28:12,449 --> 00:28:17,249 >> And with that, we will conclude today's meeting.