1 00:06:24,220 --> 00:06:26,198 >> I will ask everyone to stand. 2 00:06:26,198 --> 00:06:29,264 >> We thank you for this day that you've given us, 3 00:06:29,264 --> 00:06:33,198 and we also thank you father for the ability for us to come 4 00:06:33,198 --> 00:06:38,838 together in situations like this and be able to deal with issues 5 00:06:38,838 --> 00:06:43,780 that are going to affect generations that will come after 6 00:06:43,780 --> 00:06:43,578 us. 7 00:06:43,578 --> 00:06:48,978 Lord we thank you for our safety special today, 8 00:06:49,310 --> 00:06:51,758 it's been a trying day. 9 00:06:51,758 --> 00:06:59,318 We ask your watch care -- over our military and even our local 10 00:06:59,318 --> 00:06:59,998 people. 11 00:06:59,998 --> 00:07:03,718 All of these things we ask in thy name. 12 00:07:03,718 --> 00:07:05,718 Amen. 13 00:07:08,999 --> 00:07:11,291 >> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States 14 00:07:11,291 --> 00:07:12,262 of America. 15 00:07:12,262 --> 00:07:18,268 And to the republic for which it stands one nation under God 16 00:07:18,268 --> 00:07:22,468 indivisible with liberty and justice for all. 17 00:07:23,104 --> 00:07:24,807 >> Thank you. 18 00:07:24,807 --> 00:07:29,700 Can we do the roll call please? 19 00:07:30,630 --> 00:07:32,630 [calling roll] 20 00:07:37,905 --> 00:07:38,891 >> Thank you. 21 00:07:38,891 --> 00:07:42,438 And I'm asking for approval of the minutes. 22 00:07:42,438 --> 00:07:46,838 Before we do that, I'd like to mention in the May 6th meeting 23 00:07:46,838 --> 00:07:50,240 minutes, I'm not listed as present. 24 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:53,270 I came in late that meeting. 25 00:07:53,270 --> 00:07:56,758 I'm also not listed as absent so I think we need an update. 26 00:07:56,758 --> 00:08:00,958 Can we approve the minutes with changes? 27 00:08:01,318 --> 00:08:05,180 So I'll ask a motion to approve the minutes 28 00:08:05,180 --> 00:08:09,118 with the change to the number of board members present. 29 00:08:09,118 --> 00:08:10,478 >> So moved. 30 00:08:10,478 --> 00:08:12,478 >> Second. 31 00:08:13,198 --> 00:08:15,371 >> Can you do roll call? 32 00:08:15,371 --> 00:08:21,371 >> You can just say all in favor. >>Aye. >> Any abstain? 33 00:08:24,921 --> 00:08:25,566 No. 34 00:08:25,566 --> 00:08:27,998 And the new member -- new business. 35 00:08:27,998 --> 00:08:32,231 Do we have any new business, any member of the public 36 00:08:32,231 --> 00:08:33,804 for a new business? 37 00:08:33,804 --> 00:08:37,650 We don't have any comments for new business. 38 00:08:37,650 --> 00:08:38,486 Okay. 39 00:08:38,486 --> 00:08:42,664 Mr. Olsen, do you have a presentation for us today? 40 00:08:42,664 --> 00:08:43,178 Okay. 41 00:08:43,178 --> 00:08:45,178 Are you ready? 42 00:09:01,150 --> 00:09:01,774 >> Okay. 43 00:09:01,774 --> 00:09:02,998 Good evening everyone. 44 00:09:02,998 --> 00:09:06,350 I appreciate everyone joining the meeting tonight. 45 00:09:06,350 --> 00:09:11,150 I know we canceled the last three meetings. 46 00:09:11,662 --> 00:09:14,478 It's been four months since we met. 47 00:09:14,478 --> 00:09:17,940 We didn't have any action items tonight, 48 00:09:17,940 --> 00:09:19,668 items the board needs to make a decision on. 49 00:09:19,668 --> 00:09:21,418 But it looks like over the next few months 50 00:09:21,418 --> 00:09:23,962 we should have a few items to come before the board. 51 00:09:23,962 --> 00:09:27,210 Tonight we didn't have any items requiring a decision which 52 00:09:27,210 --> 00:09:28,438 is why I thought we could continue 53 00:09:28,438 --> 00:09:31,864 the discussion about the tree planting. 54 00:09:31,864 --> 00:09:36,118 We do have monies in the fund so we can try to move forward. 55 00:09:36,118 --> 00:09:40,804 That's our agenda tonight is to just discuss the tree planting 56 00:09:40,804 --> 00:09:44,262 program and hopefully over the next few months 57 00:09:44,262 --> 00:09:47,980 we'll have some items for the tree commission here. 58 00:09:47,980 --> 00:09:51,644 Tonight the plan is for just discussion on the tree planting 59 00:09:51,644 --> 00:09:52,144 program. 60 00:09:52,144 --> 00:09:54,348 In the slide here or in the presentation, 61 00:09:54,348 --> 00:09:57,358 it's mostly a list of locations and all 62 00:09:57,358 --> 00:09:59,398 have pictures of the locations. 63 00:09:59,398 --> 00:10:02,254 First I'd like to mention that this morning we verified 64 00:10:02,254 --> 00:10:07,998 the money in the tree fund and it's $18,678 which is the same 65 00:10:07,998 --> 00:10:11,798 that it was about a year ago, so over the last year we 66 00:10:11,798 --> 00:10:14,838 haven't processed any payments for medication into the tree 67 00:10:14,838 --> 00:10:15,484 fund. 68 00:10:15,484 --> 00:10:18,882 I suppose all of these property owners 69 00:10:18,882 --> 00:10:21,382 have been able to mitigate with the trees on their property. 70 00:10:21,382 --> 00:10:23,998 In a way that's a good thing because they pay medication 71 00:10:23,998 --> 00:10:26,798 when they can't replant or save trees. 72 00:10:26,798 --> 00:10:30,108 We have property -- over the last year. 73 00:10:30,108 --> 00:10:32,108 Currently that's $18,000. 74 00:10:32,198 --> 00:10:38,198 And then it was a few months ago that I 75 00:10:38,251 --> 00:10:42,248 was looking at some properties and I was communicating 76 00:10:42,248 --> 00:10:44,860 with a little bit about some of these properties 77 00:10:44,860 --> 00:10:47,529 and so we looked at a few of those 78 00:10:47,529 --> 00:10:50,910 and over the last week or two, I met with staff 79 00:10:50,910 --> 00:10:53,214 at the Capital Projects Department for the county 80 00:10:53,214 --> 00:10:56,860 and they're the ones which work on the design 81 00:10:56,860 --> 00:10:59,620 and construction of the roadways and other county projects. 82 00:10:59,620 --> 00:11:01,908 I met with George Murray because he's 83 00:11:01,908 --> 00:11:03,822 very familiar with the island and he's 84 00:11:03,822 --> 00:11:05,484 familiar with all the county projects. 85 00:11:05,484 --> 00:11:09,558 So I was able to talk with him about some of these county 86 00:11:09,558 --> 00:11:14,430 right of ways and properties, potential for tree planting. 87 00:11:14,430 --> 00:11:18,778 At this point, this is the list of locations I would suggest -- 88 00:11:18,778 --> 00:11:21,971 this is an exhaustive -- maybe there's some other ideas 89 00:11:21,971 --> 00:11:24,830 and we're open to ideas from the tree commission as well 90 00:11:24,830 --> 00:11:27,738 as the public if they can think of -- 91 00:11:27,738 --> 00:11:29,718 suggestions within the right of ways. 92 00:11:29,718 --> 00:11:32,878 But at this point, here's the list. 93 00:11:32,878 --> 00:11:34,571 And then I put pictures. 94 00:11:34,571 --> 00:11:37,222 I just have pictures in the slideshow here. 95 00:11:37,222 --> 00:11:40,310 So there's four, the first one being 96 00:11:40,310 --> 00:11:44,188 the new roundabout which is put in at Buckner Trail Parkway. 97 00:11:44,188 --> 00:11:46,598 That was a county park project that 98 00:11:46,598 --> 00:11:48,548 went through the projects and everything. 99 00:11:48,548 --> 00:11:52,622 And George said there should be some open areas on the markets 100 00:11:52,622 --> 00:11:57,726 there, which I think -- the new trail that goes through there 101 00:11:57,726 --> 00:12:00,131 and some trees were cleared for the construction. 102 00:12:00,131 --> 00:12:04,110 That might be an option and then there's also that built ramp -- 103 00:12:04,110 --> 00:12:08,678 >> That roundabout, when they built that they didn't budget 104 00:12:08,678 --> 00:12:11,264 to landscape that or they did but -- 105 00:12:11,264 --> 00:12:12,331 >> Correct. 106 00:12:12,331 --> 00:12:15,398 It wasn't part of the original budget. 107 00:12:15,398 --> 00:12:18,926 So Capital Projects said they would possibly 108 00:12:18,926 --> 00:12:22,510 work with the contractor on that as a next stop. 109 00:12:22,510 --> 00:12:26,647 It's not part of the -- at this point what's out there is 110 00:12:26,647 --> 00:12:27,855 what's going to be out there. 111 00:12:27,855 --> 00:12:30,138 Sod was put in to cover everything. 112 00:12:30,138 --> 00:12:32,198 That's the landscaping that's been 113 00:12:32,198 --> 00:12:34,598 approved for the roundabout. 114 00:12:41,872 --> 00:12:42,497 >> Potentially. 115 00:12:42,497 --> 00:12:45,758 This is a drone shot that was just taken a few weeks ago. 116 00:12:45,758 --> 00:12:48,272 The county has been having to hire a company 117 00:12:48,272 --> 00:12:51,888 to fly a drone to take pictures of the progress of construction. 118 00:12:51,888 --> 00:12:55,388 That's how we have this nice -- on this image, 119 00:12:55,388 --> 00:12:59,684 George with capital projects drew on those two red zones. 120 00:12:59,684 --> 00:13:04,392 These are areas he was proposing where you could put trees. 121 00:13:04,392 --> 00:13:09,477 So up on the top he marked them as 12 foot by 12 foot areas. 122 00:13:09,477 --> 00:13:15,118 There's this one pine tree which remains there and then he said 123 00:13:15,118 --> 00:13:19,406 -- this is all part of the stormwater drain system. 124 00:13:19,406 --> 00:13:26,600 He said directly behind that are these 212 by 12 areas where -- 125 00:13:26,731 --> 00:13:29,131 and then there's residences. 126 00:13:29,617 --> 00:13:32,358 Provide a buffer for those homes. 127 00:13:32,358 --> 00:13:36,180 That might be an option and then there's also this red polygon 128 00:13:36,180 --> 00:13:39,180 down here and he said it was approximately 2500ft². 129 00:13:39,180 --> 00:13:44,364 The new trail should be where this white base is shown. 130 00:13:44,364 --> 00:13:48,775 It's kind of on both sides of it. 131 00:13:48,775 --> 00:13:53,575 So again, I think that's a good contender. 132 00:13:55,886 --> 00:13:57,678 >> We could do something really cute there. 133 00:13:57,678 --> 00:13:58,371 >> Yeah. 134 00:13:58,371 --> 00:14:02,310 I especially like the idea along the new trail -- 135 00:14:02,310 --> 00:14:04,158 that's along the parkway. 136 00:14:04,158 --> 00:14:07,746 We can go by each one but it's on the list, 137 00:14:07,746 --> 00:14:10,312 we have the roundabout and then the boat ramp -- 138 00:14:10,312 --> 00:14:15,478 which by the way, I'm curious -- it is written like 139 00:14:15,478 --> 00:14:19,678 bartle's but I've heard everyone say Bar-tells. 140 00:14:22,782 --> 00:14:25,320 That's also what I've heard. 141 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:33,494 If I were to read that I think I would say 'bardles.' that is 142 00:14:33,494 --> 00:14:36,380 a county owned property and there's some open areas 143 00:14:36,380 --> 00:14:37,342 of the boat ramp. 144 00:14:37,342 --> 00:14:44,334 And the southwest corner -- this is close to the Humane Society 145 00:14:44,334 --> 00:14:49,648 property and FPU is over there may, airport road -- 146 00:14:49,648 --> 00:14:53,240 the county owns that corner and there might be some open space. 147 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:57,254 This is a property that Linda had identified in the past, 148 00:14:57,254 --> 00:15:00,811 but along the parkway near the Ritz-Carlton there's just 149 00:15:00,811 --> 00:15:04,708 an open area of the Amelia Island Parkway, 150 00:15:04,708 --> 00:15:07,104 so within the right of way there's an area kind of where 151 00:15:07,104 --> 00:15:08,351 the sidewalks -- 152 00:15:08,351 --> 00:15:11,344 I have a picture of that too. 153 00:15:11,344 --> 00:15:14,710 At this point those are the four locations that I have. 154 00:15:14,710 --> 00:15:17,283 The county owns this property in red. 155 00:15:17,283 --> 00:15:19,226 It is all wooded. 156 00:15:19,226 --> 00:15:22,158 This is right near the new roundabout. 157 00:15:22,158 --> 00:15:24,411 This is an overview of where the new roundabout is. 158 00:15:24,411 --> 00:15:27,188 It's at the head of this parcel. 159 00:15:27,188 --> 00:15:30,912 And then again, this is a closer shot and the areas of red 160 00:15:30,912 --> 00:15:33,118 is where we're suggesting trees. 161 00:15:33,118 --> 00:15:36,638 And for the boat ramp, this is the location of the boat ramp, 162 00:15:36,638 --> 00:15:38,142 near the state park. 163 00:15:38,142 --> 00:15:43,870 It's north of the old town area if everyone's familiar with 164 00:15:43,870 --> 00:15:48,104 Bartles Boat Rm when I was looking at it with George -- 165 00:15:48,104 --> 00:15:50,338 can you see the cursor moving? 166 00:15:50,338 --> 00:15:53,558 There's currently this parking lot area 167 00:15:53,558 --> 00:15:57,742 and then we call them like tree islands or parking lot islands. 168 00:15:57,742 --> 00:15:59,790 It's just grass currently. 169 00:15:59,790 --> 00:16:02,544 That could be a place for trees. 170 00:16:02,544 --> 00:16:05,990 There are light poles out there so you need to be cognizant 171 00:16:05,990 --> 00:16:09,590 of underground electrical lines as well as this would be a dry, 172 00:16:09,590 --> 00:16:14,271 hot area and -- if it's a crew that goes there -- 173 00:16:14,271 --> 00:16:16,654 they have to go out there pretty regularly for a while. 174 00:16:16,654 --> 00:16:20,718 That's one option and -- this area that I'm circling is 175 00:16:20,718 --> 00:16:25,780 a stormwater basin but -- so you couldn't put trees 176 00:16:25,780 --> 00:16:25,978 in the inside. 177 00:16:25,978 --> 00:16:29,555 But along the margins like out here on the fence, 178 00:16:29,555 --> 00:16:32,118 we don't see a reason why maybe there couldn't be trees all 179 00:16:32,118 --> 00:16:35,618 along there and then they -- shade to the parking areas over 180 00:16:35,618 --> 00:16:36,118 here. 181 00:16:36,118 --> 00:16:38,846 There might be some good opportunities. 182 00:16:38,846 --> 00:16:40,726 I sort of think so. 183 00:16:40,726 --> 00:16:43,678 This seems like one of the most open county areas 184 00:16:43,678 --> 00:16:46,780 that I could find. 185 00:16:46,104 --> 00:16:48,362 I still didn't sit down and take the time 186 00:16:48,362 --> 00:16:50,654 to go through all the county properties and everything. 187 00:16:50,654 --> 00:16:52,978 This is the list. 188 00:16:52,978 --> 00:16:55,378 I'm open to suggestions. 189 00:16:56,198 --> 00:17:01,464 >> Section two that's listed as two, can that ever be developed? 190 00:17:01,464 --> 00:17:04,160 >> At this point that's that stormwater pond, 191 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:08,949 so unless it were re-engineered somehow -- or redesigned. 192 00:17:08,949 --> 00:17:12,638 But I think at this point that will stay as a stormwater -- 193 00:17:12,638 --> 00:17:17,995 >> If we plant along the road, we could in theory be 50 or 100 194 00:17:17,995 --> 00:17:20,998 years from now have a canopy road there. 195 00:17:20,998 --> 00:17:23,398 >> Along the drive here? 196 00:17:26,969 --> 00:17:28,636 >> I don't think there's any plans to -- 197 00:17:28,636 --> 00:17:33,780 it would be open on both sides for the trees. 198 00:17:33,780 --> 00:17:35,104 There isn't a sidewalk along there 199 00:17:35,104 --> 00:17:37,966 but it's still a public park space. 200 00:17:37,966 --> 00:17:41,278 People park there and walk their vehicles. 201 00:17:41,278 --> 00:17:45,558 That's number two that I had listed and here's number three. 202 00:17:45,558 --> 00:17:47,958 This is the one near Airport Road. 203 00:17:47,958 --> 00:17:51,924 That come off of Amelia Parkway and near -- 204 00:17:51,924 --> 00:17:55,471 and so the county owns this parcel and so right towards 205 00:17:55,471 --> 00:17:58,380 the end I'll Zoom in. 206 00:17:58,380 --> 00:18:04,982 This is I believe a dermatology -- so that's that new project. 207 00:18:04,982 --> 00:18:08,118 The county owns this area that's highlighted in red 208 00:18:08,118 --> 00:18:10,542 and there is a ditch out here in the roadway. 209 00:18:10,542 --> 00:18:13,542 But right up here -- 210 00:18:16,733 --> 00:18:18,358 >> That's where that great big tree is. 211 00:18:18,358 --> 00:18:20,591 >> I think this canopy is one tree. 212 00:18:20,591 --> 00:18:25,304 I think when they did the ribbon cutting -- 213 00:18:25,304 --> 00:18:30,190 it would be nice if there's more shade and more trees. 214 00:18:30,190 --> 00:18:32,590 That's option number three. 215 00:18:32,590 --> 00:18:36,704 This is number four and this is along the parkway -- 216 00:18:36,704 --> 00:18:41,504 right at north of where Scott Road -- 217 00:18:41,531 --> 00:18:45,294 so Scott Road comes out just south of this red parcel. 218 00:18:45,294 --> 00:18:48,380 The county owns this red parcel but I was thinking out 219 00:18:48,380 --> 00:18:51,180 in the right of way in between the sidewalk and the roadway -- 220 00:18:51,180 --> 00:18:53,334 this is a designated canopy road. 221 00:18:53,334 --> 00:18:57,794 So it can contribute to the canopy along the roadway. 222 00:18:57,794 --> 00:19:00,771 The spaces may be a little tight there but the fact that 223 00:19:00,771 --> 00:19:02,380 it's a canopy road -- 224 00:19:02,380 --> 00:19:04,108 I know there are further stretches where there 225 00:19:04,108 --> 00:19:05,313 are trees close to the road. 226 00:19:05,313 --> 00:19:10,518 So I don't think that would be an issue hopefully. 227 00:19:10,518 --> 00:19:14,478 When a speed limit reaches a certain speed their safety 228 00:19:14,478 --> 00:19:17,218 standards for having trees a certain distance because someone 229 00:19:17,218 --> 00:19:23,118 -- but I think the speeds here and the fact that there are 230 00:19:23,118 --> 00:19:27,398 trees come I don't think that should be an issue. 231 00:19:27,398 --> 00:19:30,884 I would need to verify that but there 232 00:19:30,884 --> 00:19:32,551 are other stretches of the parkway where 233 00:19:32,551 --> 00:19:36,638 the trees just two feet off the roadway or something. 234 00:19:36,638 --> 00:19:41,438 >> This is the area where those homes -- 235 00:19:41,838 --> 00:19:43,748 I'm not sure. 236 00:19:43,748 --> 00:19:46,748 I'm not sure about that. 237 00:19:47,106 --> 00:19:51,906 I think Katie -- our stormwater expert -- 238 00:19:53,260 --> 00:19:55,774 just to the north of this -- those stormwater project 239 00:19:55,774 --> 00:19:57,774 in the past. 240 00:19:58,758 --> 00:20:01,158 Does that sound right? 241 00:20:02,238 --> 00:20:05,603 I just remember we talked about that in the past. 242 00:20:05,603 --> 00:20:07,942 I think that's to the north of this area. 243 00:20:07,942 --> 00:20:10,342 Does that sound right? 244 00:20:12,518 --> 00:20:14,810 >> If we're talking about the area between the sidewalk 245 00:20:14,810 --> 00:20:17,938 and roadway, it's in a roadway so all these would be verified 246 00:20:17,938 --> 00:20:20,940 for underground utilities and such. 247 00:20:20,940 --> 00:20:24,880 I think they are called as built surveys. 248 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:30,688 You have the marking of maybe -- (inaudible) that's the challenge 249 00:20:35,918 --> 00:20:38,460 of planting trees in the right of ways. 250 00:20:38,460 --> 00:20:43,358 There's that extra layer of -- of worrying about underground 251 00:20:43,358 --> 00:20:44,238 utilities. 252 00:20:44,238 --> 00:20:50,198 The internet companies, AT&T -- now has lines all over. 253 00:20:50,198 --> 00:20:51,624 Things like that. 254 00:20:51,624 --> 00:20:54,127 I think I made a note of that. 255 00:20:54,127 --> 00:20:56,784 For all locations we need to consider conflicts 256 00:20:56,784 --> 00:20:59,784 with utilities, especially in roadways. 257 00:20:59,948 --> 00:21:02,978 We would need to definitely coordinate with other counties 258 00:21:02,978 --> 00:21:05,170 to get approval -- 259 00:21:05,170 --> 00:21:07,570 maintain the county's roads. 260 00:21:08,658 --> 00:21:12,278 And then another thing that came up when I was talking about 261 00:21:12,278 --> 00:21:15,568 capital projects is there's certain areas where 262 00:21:15,568 --> 00:21:18,498 there's maintenance agreements and there's -- 263 00:21:18,498 --> 00:21:23,298 between Fernandina Beach and the county or FDOT. 264 00:21:23,593 --> 00:21:25,218 If there's an existing agreement saying 265 00:21:25,218 --> 00:21:27,488 the county agrees to maintain these sidewalks, 266 00:21:27,488 --> 00:21:30,724 like these roadways come if we're now going to plant trees, 267 00:21:30,724 --> 00:21:32,998 maybe in the way of mowing or something 268 00:21:32,998 --> 00:21:35,998 possibly have to be modified. 269 00:21:36,380 --> 00:21:41,164 That's another thing of -- a planting trees in the right 270 00:21:41,164 --> 00:21:41,830 of way. 271 00:21:41,830 --> 00:21:46,638 That's another layer of approval you have to work through. 272 00:21:46,638 --> 00:21:51,920 >> I don't think any of those locations are FDOT. 273 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:53,798 >> All of these right of ways -- 274 00:21:53,798 --> 00:21:58,800 Emilia Parkway is County and the boat ramp is county maintained. 275 00:21:58,800 --> 00:21:59,868 That's right. 276 00:21:59,868 --> 00:22:02,558 All of these are county roadways. 277 00:22:02,558 --> 00:22:05,558 It wouldn't be like FDOT. 278 00:22:07,175 --> 00:22:13,175 We'd have to see if there's any of those agreements. 279 00:22:16,850 --> 00:22:18,838 >> So when we have an arborist -- again -- 280 00:22:18,838 --> 00:22:23,935 is there watering available or is that something we need to add 281 00:22:23,935 --> 00:22:28,958 up there to confirm how we would get to these water? 282 00:22:28,958 --> 00:22:31,186 >> We would need to plan for that for sure. 283 00:22:31,186 --> 00:22:35,150 So far with the county's history of having an arborist come 284 00:22:35,150 --> 00:22:39,998 an arborist has never run out -- like I believe the city arborist 285 00:22:39,998 --> 00:22:40,566 does. 286 00:22:40,566 --> 00:22:43,494 We never function like that. 287 00:22:43,494 --> 00:22:48,110 And in areas like installing actual irrigation lines, 288 00:22:48,110 --> 00:22:50,598 it has to be quite expensive. 289 00:22:50,598 --> 00:22:53,251 Maybe the most cost effective idea 290 00:22:53,251 --> 00:22:56,744 is to hire a crew out to water. 291 00:22:56,744 --> 00:23:01,378 So maybe that would be the best route and then if you planted 292 00:23:01,378 --> 00:23:05,723 the right time of year, and if they get water -- 293 00:23:05,723 --> 00:23:07,784 I don't know how that watering window would be. 294 00:23:07,784 --> 00:23:09,598 Three months, six months? 295 00:23:09,598 --> 00:23:11,331 12 months? 296 00:23:11,331 --> 00:23:12,197 Yeah. 297 00:23:12,197 --> 00:23:16,397 That's part of the equation for sure. 298 00:23:16,553 --> 00:23:19,200 So that's something the tree commission can work on, 299 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:20,870 the tree planting program period they're 300 00:23:20,870 --> 00:23:22,624 trying to find some locations but I don't 301 00:23:22,624 --> 00:23:24,135 think I found all of them. 302 00:23:24,135 --> 00:23:28,338 I did meet with -- he's one of the most knowledgeable guys 303 00:23:28,338 --> 00:23:31,844 in our building and these are the places he suggested as well 304 00:23:31,844 --> 00:23:36,440 as -- maybe some of the places. 305 00:23:36,975 --> 00:23:39,338 I guess we can try to narrow down some places 306 00:23:39,338 --> 00:23:41,791 and take the budget and then we thought okay, 307 00:23:41,791 --> 00:23:44,238 we really wanted to go forward with the boat ramp. 308 00:23:44,238 --> 00:23:46,318 How far would that budget get? 309 00:23:46,318 --> 00:23:48,943 And I'm not sure -- 310 00:23:48,943 --> 00:23:52,138 I guess I can help do some of that research. 311 00:23:52,138 --> 00:23:54,138 All is well. 312 00:23:58,641 --> 00:24:01,266 >> To do that kind of work, does the county require three bids? 313 00:24:01,266 --> 00:24:05,695 So if we were to do that, we'd want to come forward to say -- 314 00:24:05,695 --> 00:24:08,695 >> I was asking myself that. 315 00:24:08,828 --> 00:24:13,598 In general, that's the county's process for hiring or. 316 00:24:13,598 --> 00:24:16,598 We haven't even discussed that. 317 00:24:17,318 --> 00:24:20,318 >> I keep calling you out. 318 00:24:22,592 --> 00:24:25,175 >> Usually it's three kids -- do you think it even would be -- 319 00:24:25,175 --> 00:24:27,204 of the picture of the department? 320 00:24:27,204 --> 00:24:28,291 Probably? 321 00:24:28,291 --> 00:24:32,491 They would manage the bidding and -- 322 00:24:33,678 --> 00:24:39,780 >> It doesn't even have to go to -- >> (inaudible) 323 00:24:56,346 --> 00:24:59,652 >> If we know what species -- 324 00:24:59,652 --> 00:25:01,569 I guess without taking your presentation here, 325 00:25:01,569 --> 00:25:05,538 but to me what's the role of this commission would be to say 326 00:25:05,538 --> 00:25:10,338 we either like this proposal or we don't. 327 00:25:10,518 --> 00:25:13,980 I personally don't think we need to keep looking at things. 328 00:25:13,980 --> 00:25:18,864 We need to -- if we don't need to keep looking at things then 329 00:25:18,864 --> 00:25:23,504 what would be our next steps to help you figure out if we get 330 00:25:23,504 --> 00:25:25,504 trees planted? 331 00:25:25,738 --> 00:25:31,986 >> I would like to see -- >> (inaudible) >> We are coming up 332 00:25:31,986 --> 00:25:34,278 on the time to do it. 333 00:25:34,278 --> 00:25:36,240 >> This is an open discussion I think. 334 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,431 As a tree commission, this is something 335 00:25:38,431 --> 00:25:41,431 we can work on together. 336 00:25:44,515 --> 00:25:46,598 >> I really like that trapezoidal section and with 337 00:25:46,598 --> 00:25:53,798 the 18000, we could develop a request for a bid and then you 338 00:25:56,550 --> 00:26:00,255 go from there and see what we get. 339 00:26:00,255 --> 00:26:02,824 Because I don't think with that amount of money we're going 340 00:26:02,824 --> 00:26:08,366 to be able to do -- payment if we've got to pay somebody 341 00:26:08,366 --> 00:26:12,406 to water them then -- payment you're referring to the one out 342 00:26:12,406 --> 00:26:14,406 there now? 343 00:26:14,998 --> 00:26:16,344 >> Correct. 344 00:26:16,344 --> 00:26:21,744 >> I think the one on Scott Road --å (inaudible) 345 00:26:23,333 --> 00:26:23,840 >> I agree. 346 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,815 I think that would be the priority for us to. 347 00:26:26,815 --> 00:26:30,166 I think a lot of people would benefit from -- 348 00:26:30,166 --> 00:26:33,558 >> More visibility on it for sure. 349 00:26:33,558 --> 00:26:36,638 >> At this point is there consensus that that roundabout 350 00:26:36,638 --> 00:26:39,380 would be top priority? 351 00:26:39,398 --> 00:26:40,198 >> I like that. 352 00:26:40,198 --> 00:26:43,938 If there are utilities there, I think the -- 353 00:26:43,938 --> 00:26:46,938 would be a good one. 354 00:26:46,958 --> 00:26:49,958 Those are two good options. 355 00:26:50,358 --> 00:26:53,514 So I'll put stars next to those two. 356 00:26:53,514 --> 00:26:55,507 Little roundabout. 357 00:26:55,507 --> 00:26:57,907 And then boat ramp. 358 00:26:58,838 --> 00:27:01,238 >> Good job identifying those. 359 00:27:04,687 --> 00:27:07,620 >>, I would like to add -- the road department might have 360 00:27:07,620 --> 00:27:09,938 a continuing contract that could -- 361 00:27:09,938 --> 00:27:12,158 I don't know about the irrigation. 362 00:27:12,158 --> 00:27:15,894 Or maybe parks might have a continuing contract. 363 00:27:15,894 --> 00:27:19,898 So that means it's already been through like a huge bid process 364 00:27:19,898 --> 00:27:21,782 and we have set prices. 365 00:27:21,782 --> 00:27:24,477 And so that contract is already in place. 366 00:27:24,477 --> 00:27:26,190 It would just be a work authorization 367 00:27:26,190 --> 00:27:28,398 to be able to do the work. 368 00:27:28,398 --> 00:27:32,180 >> We already have some -- an existing contract with 369 00:27:32,180 --> 00:27:33,168 the landscaping company? 370 00:27:33,168 --> 00:27:36,168 Is that what you're saying? 371 00:27:36,171 --> 00:27:39,542 >> It might be worth asking to see. 372 00:27:39,542 --> 00:27:41,510 Otherwise you have to call three people. 373 00:27:41,510 --> 00:27:43,910 It's a longer process. 374 00:27:44,638 --> 00:27:48,198 >> Who do I contact about that? 375 00:27:48,198 --> 00:27:54,110 >> I talked to -- it'd be nice if it has something -- 376 00:27:54,110 --> 00:27:58,711 >> And I don't know what is the bid. 377 00:27:58,711 --> 00:28:02,878 There might not be a lime line item for landscaping. 378 00:28:02,878 --> 00:28:05,958 That could potentially give you the tree 379 00:28:05,958 --> 00:28:09,638 and irrigate the trees and the irrigation. 380 00:28:09,638 --> 00:28:11,366 >> We will avoid the bidding process. 381 00:28:11,366 --> 00:28:15,326 We already have a company we can work with, 382 00:28:15,326 --> 00:28:19,463 but we have to get a quote from them. 383 00:28:19,463 --> 00:28:19,963 >> No. 384 00:28:19,963 --> 00:28:21,238 You already have all of that. 385 00:28:21,238 --> 00:28:23,918 Somebody has approved them as a contract vendor 386 00:28:23,918 --> 00:28:25,918 is the way I would describe it. 387 00:28:25,918 --> 00:28:31,689 So we want to do this project -- can you price it out for us? 388 00:28:31,689 --> 00:28:33,689 (inaudible) 389 00:28:35,666 --> 00:28:37,458 >> But if the price is right we go forward? 390 00:28:37,458 --> 00:28:39,838 >> If it fits in our budget. 391 00:28:39,838 --> 00:28:41,150 >> Exactly. 392 00:28:41,150 --> 00:28:45,538 Well, I'm glad -- >> Are you thinking species? 393 00:28:45,538 --> 00:28:51,624 We want to do seven -- that's the beautiful thing around here. 394 00:28:51,624 --> 00:28:52,319 >> I agree. 395 00:28:52,319 --> 00:28:53,944 My main thought is it should definitely 396 00:28:53,944 --> 00:28:56,974 be one of our native canopy tree species. 397 00:28:56,974 --> 00:29:01,472 And the other thing to come up planning out in the roadway -- 398 00:29:01,472 --> 00:29:06,374 it can be drier and the soils brought in and -- 399 00:29:06,374 --> 00:29:09,862 does the commission have thoughts about tree species? 400 00:29:09,862 --> 00:29:15,862 I see live oak and -- >> I'm happy -- >> (inaudible) 401 00:29:39,228 --> 00:29:40,186 >> Can you repeat that? 402 00:29:40,186 --> 00:29:42,186 Hold on. >> (inaudible) 403 00:29:51,724 --> 00:29:51,732 >> I think they're kind of marginal here. 404 00:29:51,732 --> 00:29:54,686 I don't see them thriving generally in North Florida. 405 00:29:54,686 --> 00:29:59,765 I've never seen a giant weeping willow in our area. 406 00:29:59,765 --> 00:30:01,765 >> (inaudible) 407 00:30:06,182 --> 00:30:11,582 >> I think we are right on the edge. >> (inaudible) 408 00:30:22,213 --> 00:30:22,713 >> I agree. 409 00:30:22,713 --> 00:30:26,197 >> Or even one of those -- >> Live Oaks are probably 410 00:30:26,197 --> 00:30:28,648 the number one tree on the island historically. 411 00:30:28,648 --> 00:30:31,480 So that's my vote. 412 00:30:32,918 --> 00:30:34,717 >> They're slow growers. 413 00:30:34,717 --> 00:30:38,317 >> They can live a long time. 414 00:30:43,984 --> 00:30:45,984 >> good. 415 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:49,100 >> I've thinking this. 416 00:30:49,100 --> 00:30:52,618 We want to put it together for the planting -- 417 00:30:52,618 --> 00:30:54,757 and then for the watering. 418 00:30:54,757 --> 00:30:56,318 You talk about what length of time 419 00:30:56,318 --> 00:30:57,731 do we want someone to water it? 420 00:30:57,731 --> 00:31:03,731 Do we want to quantify how many gallons per tree? 421 00:31:03,777 --> 00:31:05,731 >> How many gallons of water per tree? 422 00:31:05,731 --> 00:31:10,197 How many gallons of water per tree do we want to water? 423 00:31:10,197 --> 00:31:11,466 >> There are guidelines. 424 00:31:11,466 --> 00:31:15,158 For sure we'd want to do that. 425 00:31:15,158 --> 00:31:18,238 >> When they hire a crew they have an idea of what they 426 00:31:18,238 --> 00:31:20,238 normally do. 427 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,218 >> I can only say, everything that I've ever seen from Gage 428 00:31:27,218 --> 00:31:31,526 or Liberty all had -- depends on the time of the year and from 429 00:31:31,526 --> 00:31:33,171 extension two I've seen this. 430 00:31:33,171 --> 00:31:36,600 And you know this I'm sure. 431 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,504 I just wanted to see the extension recommends 432 00:31:39,504 --> 00:31:44,558 because yes come landscapers and we all have our own opinions. 433 00:31:44,558 --> 00:31:47,175 >> I'd like to know what that is. 434 00:31:47,175 --> 00:31:49,814 So they do have a watering schedule 435 00:31:49,814 --> 00:31:52,371 and it's based on caliber and time of year 436 00:31:52,371 --> 00:31:54,712 and there's a schedule based on how many weeks 437 00:31:54,712 --> 00:31:59,798 and if you are dry or wet, they've got that. 438 00:31:59,798 --> 00:32:04,222 >> There's certain times where we sort of have -- for a while. 439 00:32:04,222 --> 00:32:06,622 It hasn't happened much recently. 440 00:32:06,622 --> 00:32:08,838 But it can happen. 441 00:32:08,838 --> 00:32:11,830 Hopefully in the winter, this winter. 442 00:32:11,830 --> 00:32:14,614 We're entering an El Nino period. 443 00:32:14,614 --> 00:32:18,326 Like with the Pacific Ocean and tropical region 444 00:32:18,326 --> 00:32:20,198 is warmer than average. 445 00:32:20,198 --> 00:32:22,499 So when we're in these El Nino conditions, 446 00:32:22,499 --> 00:32:25,538 our area tends to have higher than average rainfall 447 00:32:25,538 --> 00:32:27,780 so fingers crossed. 448 00:32:27,780 --> 00:32:32,169 The next six months to a year -- >> Which would be nice. 449 00:32:32,169 --> 00:32:36,969 If we could get something planted this fall. 450 00:32:39,356 --> 00:32:40,731 >> This is the prime season here. 451 00:32:40,731 --> 00:32:46,131 >> The fall is the number one it recommended time. 452 00:32:50,304 --> 00:32:50,804 >> Okay. 453 00:32:50,804 --> 00:32:53,358 We should probably try to act now before it's 454 00:32:53,358 --> 00:32:56,733 spring and summer of next year. 455 00:32:56,733 --> 00:32:58,858 >> Do you want to check and see about a contractor? 456 00:32:58,858 --> 00:33:00,441 If you don't have a contractor we 457 00:33:00,441 --> 00:33:03,510 can take some action items individually 458 00:33:03,510 --> 00:33:06,438 and contact different companies if you 459 00:33:06,438 --> 00:33:08,558 wanted us to help with that. 460 00:33:08,558 --> 00:33:13,438 It seems like it is a county thing now. 461 00:33:13,438 --> 00:33:14,838 >> Financial. 462 00:33:14,838 --> 00:33:17,502 >> If we can have somebody provide you a quote, 463 00:33:17,502 --> 00:33:19,502 that's one thing. 464 00:33:19,894 --> 00:33:23,358 >> Do you know how that process works? 465 00:33:23,358 --> 00:33:25,611 >> You just have to find three people -- 466 00:33:25,611 --> 00:33:29,251 and I know our guidelines have some local preference. 467 00:33:29,251 --> 00:33:34,571 We usually go with the lowest bid unless you have reason -- 468 00:33:34,571 --> 00:33:37,571 you could work with procurement. 469 00:33:37,771 --> 00:33:40,171 There's a procurement policy. 470 00:33:41,658 --> 00:33:43,718 >> I've never worked with them before. 471 00:33:43,718 --> 00:33:48,371 >> If someone has recommendations on who to use -- 472 00:33:48,371 --> 00:33:54,326 we try to do -- and we have people that would be willing -- 473 00:33:54,326 --> 00:33:58,388 I know contractors and they're doing like subdivisions -- 474 00:33:58,388 --> 00:34:03,727 they're not going to bid on -- so you have to be able to get 475 00:34:03,727 --> 00:34:06,998 the right person for the right job. 476 00:34:06,998 --> 00:34:09,118 >> That's a good point. 477 00:34:09,118 --> 00:34:14,980 >> Who or when do we want to define the scope then to be able 478 00:34:14,980 --> 00:34:16,638 to find bids to quote? 479 00:34:16,638 --> 00:34:20,203 Who's going to say we're going to ask for this many trees? 480 00:34:20,203 --> 00:34:21,950 I think we have to find out first 481 00:34:21,950 --> 00:34:24,558 is you have somebody who's already contracted 482 00:34:24,558 --> 00:34:26,918 because I don't want to go ask for bids before that 483 00:34:26,918 --> 00:34:30,443 but you are asking how many trees will you put on there? 484 00:34:30,443 --> 00:34:33,718 I think once you know if you've got a bed, 485 00:34:33,718 --> 00:34:36,886 then you go to that contractor and tell them what you want 486 00:34:36,886 --> 00:34:41,518 to do and -- some budget that you want to give them and ask, 487 00:34:41,518 --> 00:34:42,752 maybe you don't do that -- 488 00:34:42,752 --> 00:34:44,518 I'm telling you how I would do it. 489 00:34:44,518 --> 00:34:47,335 I would say this is what I have and you tell me 490 00:34:47,335 --> 00:34:49,238 what this should look like. 491 00:34:49,238 --> 00:34:52,206 I don't think we're the people to make that decision how 492 00:34:52,206 --> 00:34:53,558 many trees go in. 493 00:34:53,558 --> 00:34:56,984 I think we can recommend we want Florida natives 494 00:34:56,984 --> 00:34:59,958 and we would like some live oaks. 495 00:34:59,958 --> 00:35:03,218 But how many trees and spacing them and watering them -- 496 00:35:03,218 --> 00:35:06,702 that's where I think the person that you hire is supposed 497 00:35:06,702 --> 00:35:07,974 to provide that. 498 00:35:07,974 --> 00:35:12,780 And we act as guidelines if we agree with them. 499 00:35:12,780 --> 00:35:14,658 >> Typically the RFP will outline it for a county unless 500 00:35:14,658 --> 00:35:18,220 we have like you were saying, subcontract -- 501 00:35:18,220 --> 00:35:21,764 then you might have a unit price and say this is our unit price 502 00:35:21,764 --> 00:35:22,538 per tree. 503 00:35:22,538 --> 00:35:24,158 That's already established. 504 00:35:24,158 --> 00:35:31,568 Maybe that could be a way for us to give them a budget then. 505 00:35:31,568 --> 00:35:33,818 >> Is that something that extension could help us with 506 00:35:33,818 --> 00:35:35,818 with spacing? 507 00:35:35,971 --> 00:35:40,771 >> We could do three trees or -- >> (inaudible) 508 00:37:05,732 --> 00:37:07,732 [no audio] 509 00:37:29,607 --> 00:37:31,820 Maybe if there's some that are very hearty. 510 00:37:31,820 --> 00:37:36,759 I would say my personal opinion is near trails and roadways 511 00:37:36,759 --> 00:37:41,319 we should also consider just the shade for the trail 512 00:37:41,319 --> 00:37:44,447 and also matching the existing canopy 513 00:37:44,447 --> 00:37:48,767 and like a large native canopy tree is the oaks and hickories 514 00:37:48,767 --> 00:37:51,167 and things like that. 515 00:37:54,770 --> 00:37:56,577 >> My only concern with that was just the messiness of them. 516 00:37:56,577 --> 00:38:01,377 There's some that >> That just depends -- crabapple. 517 00:38:05,470 --> 00:38:07,470 >> No crabapple. 518 00:38:07,847 --> 00:38:12,487 >> I've never seen a crabapple in Nassau County. 519 00:38:12,487 --> 00:38:15,220 >> You've not lived until you've had somebody throw a crabapple 520 00:38:15,220 --> 00:38:16,713 at you. 521 00:38:16,713 --> 00:38:19,993 >> I don't know if I've ever experienced that. 522 00:38:19,993 --> 00:38:23,215 >> I had two plants a -- somebody planted them right 523 00:38:23,215 --> 00:38:26,470 by the Dep's -- they were great for shade but they had 524 00:38:26,470 --> 00:38:28,649 crabapples over the deck and if you didn't get them up they 525 00:38:28,649 --> 00:38:31,107 rotted and then the bees would get up and then they'd sting 526 00:38:31,107 --> 00:38:36,507 the dog and one day I just had -- 527 00:38:36,538 --> 00:38:37,913 >> A whole chain of events there. 528 00:38:37,913 --> 00:38:39,913 >> Yes. 529 00:38:40,127 --> 00:38:41,800 >> Okay. 530 00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:43,473 Sounds good. 531 00:38:43,473 --> 00:38:48,864 I think we can talk more about species and then maybe the size 532 00:38:48,864 --> 00:38:51,703 -- the size that we want to plant -- 533 00:38:51,703 --> 00:38:53,700 that's an important point. 534 00:38:53,700 --> 00:38:56,867 I also kind of want to get a clear idea of what's really 535 00:38:56,867 --> 00:38:58,727 the area we are working with. 536 00:38:58,727 --> 00:39:04,767 He estimated is 2500ft² but is that a flat area or sloped. 537 00:39:04,767 --> 00:39:07,607 Maybe you have a better idea of what the space looks like. 538 00:39:07,607 --> 00:39:10,279 There's those two squares near that pine tree. 539 00:39:10,279 --> 00:39:14,515 Which again would be a good spot because it would help -- 540 00:39:14,515 --> 00:39:18,615 but I think that might be like a part shade location. 541 00:39:18,615 --> 00:39:22,570 So then when you think about part shade combat you have 542 00:39:22,570 --> 00:39:28,570 different species -- we have one native mulberry, red mulberry. 543 00:39:28,447 --> 00:39:31,271 There's a lot of them in the Fort Clinch State Park 544 00:39:31,271 --> 00:39:34,167 and they're pretty nice trees and they're a part shade tree. 545 00:39:34,167 --> 00:39:36,150 Honestly if we find those common that'd 546 00:39:36,150 --> 00:39:38,879 be the best location for world Red Mulberry and those 547 00:39:38,879 --> 00:39:40,655 do get fruits for the birds. 548 00:39:40,655 --> 00:39:44,567 Those are cool trees that you don't see planted that often. 549 00:39:44,567 --> 00:39:46,447 >> That would be a good spot for it. 550 00:39:46,447 --> 00:39:47,737 I'm pretty nerdy. 551 00:39:47,737 --> 00:39:49,540 I've studied a lot of our native trees. 552 00:39:49,540 --> 00:39:52,957 I like trying to learn our native canopy. 553 00:39:52,957 --> 00:39:55,120 I do have thoughts about that. 554 00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:56,387 When you're planting in a roadway 555 00:39:56,387 --> 00:40:01,727 you have to consider the hardier species I'd say. 556 00:40:01,727 --> 00:40:05,870 >> What do you need from us? 557 00:40:05,870 --> 00:40:11,127 Do you need us to try to think about species and how many 558 00:40:11,127 --> 00:40:12,967 trees and that sort of thing? 559 00:40:12,967 --> 00:40:17,287 Is that something you want this commission to do? 560 00:40:17,287 --> 00:40:18,407 >> Potentially yes. 561 00:40:18,407 --> 00:40:22,807 I like the idea of this being a discussion and a group effort 562 00:40:22,807 --> 00:40:26,593 and it's something that tree commission can work on. 563 00:40:26,593 --> 00:40:28,840 I hate that it's like a broken record, 564 00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:32,270 but I haven't had much time recently during the week 565 00:40:32,270 --> 00:40:33,564 to work on this either. 566 00:40:33,564 --> 00:40:37,119 So if you all can help work on these things that's helpful. 567 00:40:37,119 --> 00:40:40,727 From my note from earlier, it seems the next point is 568 00:40:40,727 --> 00:40:43,967 to figure out if we already have a company that we contract with 569 00:40:43,967 --> 00:40:47,184 because then maybe we can -- have a group that we want 570 00:40:47,184 --> 00:40:48,217 to contract with. 571 00:40:48,217 --> 00:40:50,217 Maybe then that's step one. 572 00:40:50,217 --> 00:40:54,393 And then at that point, say we do have a company -- 573 00:40:54,393 --> 00:40:58,637 would we try to formulate an idea at that point? 574 00:40:58,637 --> 00:41:01,637 We can do this outside of these tree commission meetings 575 00:41:01,637 --> 00:41:04,132 too if we work over the county emails. 576 00:41:04,132 --> 00:41:06,670 Which hopefully we'll have access to. 577 00:41:06,670 --> 00:41:07,999 We can communicate that way. 578 00:41:07,999 --> 00:41:10,877 There's no reason we can't do that. 579 00:41:10,877 --> 00:41:16,984 When we meet here once a month -- that can get really drug out. 580 00:41:16,984 --> 00:41:21,967 So that might be the next step is -- yes. 581 00:41:21,967 --> 00:41:23,947 >> I apologize for interjecting. 582 00:41:23,947 --> 00:41:28,747 Just to clarify, because a Florida sunshine law, 583 00:41:29,260 --> 00:41:32,487 it's not a reply all situation in terms 584 00:41:32,487 --> 00:41:34,887 of coordinating via email. 585 00:41:35,270 --> 00:41:39,687 So Adam can send out emails with information 586 00:41:39,687 --> 00:41:44,503 and it would be limited to just responding to Adam. 587 00:41:44,503 --> 00:41:46,727 I want to clarify that. 588 00:41:46,727 --> 00:41:49,447 >> We can work one on one through email. 589 00:41:49,447 --> 00:41:56,470 But it shouldn't be reply all to include all commission members. 590 00:41:56,530 --> 00:41:57,113 >> (inaudible) 591 00:41:57,113 --> 00:41:58,633 >> I appreciate that reminder. 592 00:41:58,633 --> 00:42:03,740 We can work one on one through emails or over phone calls. 593 00:42:03,740 --> 00:42:08,153 >> What I see is the county uses blind copy for that. 594 00:42:08,153 --> 00:42:10,750 That way you can't make a mistake. 595 00:42:10,750 --> 00:42:13,167 >> That's what we do because we can send it out to you all 596 00:42:13,167 --> 00:42:19,767 but it's each individually and you can't see everyone >> Are we 597 00:42:19,849 --> 00:42:20,932 planning to use all 18000? 598 00:42:20,932 --> 00:42:22,427 No? 599 00:42:22,427 --> 00:42:24,407 >> That's a good question. 600 00:42:24,407 --> 00:42:26,120 >> I can't even imagine we need to. 601 00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:29,720 It would depend on the sizes. 602 00:42:29,767 --> 00:42:33,967 >> And how much cost to water it. 603 00:42:34,180 --> 00:42:36,967 >> Do we think that's thousands of dollars? 604 00:42:36,967 --> 00:42:37,551 Probably? 605 00:42:37,551 --> 00:42:39,303 An entire crew? 606 00:42:39,303 --> 00:42:43,204 Has anyone ever contracted for that sort of work? 607 00:42:43,204 --> 00:42:45,204 It was not? 608 00:42:49,775 --> 00:42:52,670 >> It can be when you start talking about the watering, 609 00:42:52,670 --> 00:42:58,670 how many trees -- the size. >> (inaudible) mulch double mulch 610 00:43:01,453 --> 00:43:03,853 is an important factor. 611 00:43:06,744 --> 00:43:08,575 >> (inaudible) 612 00:43:08,575 --> 00:43:10,367 >> If you get a unit price, if that exists, 613 00:43:10,367 --> 00:43:16,671 then that will help us set a budget and we can look 614 00:43:16,671 --> 00:43:18,687 at the tree availability. 615 00:43:18,687 --> 00:43:21,407 >> Would unit price include the water? 616 00:43:21,407 --> 00:43:26,807 >> Probably not. >> (inaudible) NASA keeps him in the pot 617 00:43:43,149 --> 00:43:50,349 and they move him to the new pot and they grow -- 618 00:43:52,249 --> 00:43:54,129 (inaudible) which is cheaper. 619 00:43:54,129 --> 00:44:00,729 And that can grow better roots and maybe have healthier trees. 620 00:44:02,720 --> 00:44:08,672 They will find their ways to grow their roots, healthy roots. 621 00:44:08,807 --> 00:44:11,407 It's the most important part. 622 00:44:11,407 --> 00:44:13,407 >> I 100% agree. 623 00:44:14,247 --> 00:44:15,287 >> 45 gallons? 624 00:44:15,287 --> 00:44:20,187 Is that still -- >> You don't even buy that size. 625 00:44:20,187 --> 00:44:24,367 You need to -- >> Sometimes they sit in the pot in the root 626 00:44:24,367 --> 00:44:25,378 circle in the pots. 627 00:44:25,378 --> 00:44:30,778 At that point it's not a healthy root system. 628 00:44:30,833 --> 00:44:34,747 >> The good example is the waterfront park. 629 00:44:34,747 --> 00:44:36,904 >> The new city park? 630 00:44:36,904 --> 00:44:39,304 And the large trees? 631 00:44:39,407 --> 00:44:41,976 >> They looked beautiful until -- 632 00:44:41,976 --> 00:44:43,393 >> I went to the opening ceremony. 633 00:44:43,393 --> 00:44:46,780 I don't know if I walked that recently. 634 00:44:46,780 --> 00:44:49,759 >> It's beautiful but the amount of water those trees needed 635 00:44:49,759 --> 00:44:52,907 to get through this drought was enormous. 636 00:44:52,907 --> 00:44:54,487 They didn't get it. 637 00:44:54,487 --> 00:44:56,887 Maybe the big trees are more prone to shock 638 00:44:56,887 --> 00:45:02,287 when they can look bad and sometimes branches die. 639 00:45:02,540 --> 00:45:03,930 >> They had to be. 640 00:45:03,930 --> 00:45:08,519 At least -- probably not even container -- 641 00:45:08,519 --> 00:45:13,767 aren't there magnolias on the parkway at the N -- 642 00:45:13,767 --> 00:45:15,907 Simmons road, closer to the beach? 643 00:45:15,907 --> 00:45:19,127 Those have done excellent and they are small. 644 00:45:19,127 --> 00:45:21,127 45 gallon. 645 00:45:22,607 --> 00:45:26,727 >> I don't know the container sizes to visualize personally 646 00:45:26,727 --> 00:45:29,815 but I have heard that smaller tends to be better because they 647 00:45:29,815 --> 00:45:33,307 are a younger root systems, so they are less likely to circle 648 00:45:33,307 --> 00:45:34,967 in the pot. 649 00:45:34,967 --> 00:45:38,707 The bigger the tree, the more needy as far 650 00:45:38,707 --> 00:45:41,207 as water and potential root issues. 651 00:45:41,207 --> 00:45:46,607 And small trees will also be much more --. 652 00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,000 >> Of course. >> (inaudible) 653 00:46:03,664 --> 00:46:05,122 >> Piled up around the tree trunks? 654 00:46:05,122 --> 00:46:07,522 I noticed this also. 655 00:46:07,553 --> 00:46:11,153 >> My questions or people -- (inaudible) 656 00:46:17,140 --> 00:46:20,140 >> I'm familiar with that also. 657 00:46:22,447 --> 00:46:23,631 That's true. 658 00:46:23,631 --> 00:46:27,231 I see that sometimes as well. 659 00:46:29,767 --> 00:46:36,367 >> Where should I report >> It's easy to throw that mulch on. 660 00:46:37,687 --> 00:46:41,287 >> They just have their own landscape. 661 00:46:44,911 --> 00:46:50,311 (inaudible) we have a very good resource here -- 662 00:46:52,287 --> 00:46:57,687 they have very good pine straw. (inaudible) they keep 663 00:47:02,623 --> 00:47:07,747 the moisture and -- it's the best one we can use 664 00:47:07,747 --> 00:47:09,747 and it's cheap. 665 00:47:13,285 --> 00:47:14,327 >> I just made a note to. 666 00:47:14,327 --> 00:47:16,327 The next step is I will reach out to procurement 667 00:47:16,327 --> 00:47:18,943 and ask if we have part of the existing contracts 668 00:47:18,943 --> 00:47:22,509 and then I'll set up the follow up email to all of you 669 00:47:22,509 --> 00:47:24,340 and that will be the next step. 670 00:47:24,340 --> 00:47:29,847 And then at that point we can discuss back and forth 671 00:47:29,847 --> 00:47:31,351 how to move forward. 672 00:47:31,351 --> 00:47:33,439 Maybe I'll get the plans for this area. 673 00:47:33,439 --> 00:47:38,133 We talked about how large the area is and number of species. 674 00:47:38,133 --> 00:47:39,463 And that stuff. 675 00:47:39,463 --> 00:47:44,263 I think that's my thought at this point. 676 00:47:45,188 --> 00:47:47,188 >> (inaudible) 677 00:47:48,721 --> 00:47:49,846 >> I'm okay with that also. 678 00:47:49,846 --> 00:47:51,633 We need to honor the Florida Sunshine Law. 679 00:47:51,633 --> 00:47:55,535 If we can just communicate that way, we can communicate -- 680 00:47:55,535 --> 00:47:59,279 maybe we can conclude this part of tonight's meeting. 681 00:47:59,279 --> 00:48:01,833 If you have more thoughts you can call me back up. 682 00:48:01,833 --> 00:48:04,487 We can conclude this part. 683 00:48:04,487 --> 00:48:06,487 >> Thank you. 684 00:48:09,279 --> 00:48:11,487 >> And we have -- if we move to the next agenda item, 685 00:48:11,487 --> 00:48:16,370 general public comment, we have Miss Rebecca Raymond that would 686 00:48:16,370 --> 00:48:18,370 like to address. 687 00:48:24,453 --> 00:48:25,786 >> Do I need to give my address? 688 00:48:25,786 --> 00:48:28,786 I'm Rebecca Raymond, 1703 Highland Dunes 689 00:48:29,672 --> 00:48:31,672 Ray, Fernandina Beach. 690 00:48:32,167 --> 00:48:36,367 I am here representing Amelia Tree Conservancy 691 00:48:37,297 --> 00:48:42,309 and actually just want to update on a couple of things. 692 00:48:42,309 --> 00:48:45,909 I was here I guess -- 693 00:48:45,993 --> 00:48:49,700 I guess it was the last board meeting you had 694 00:48:49,700 --> 00:48:52,703 and you were talking about the Heritage Tree program. 695 00:48:52,703 --> 00:48:57,575 So I just wondered how that was coming along. 696 00:48:57,575 --> 00:49:04,775 And I understand we don't have a county arborist at this point. 697 00:49:05,437 --> 00:49:09,637 And how we're going to proceed without. 698 00:49:10,567 --> 00:49:16,567 So I guess I have questions of you. >> Thank you. 699 00:49:16,633 --> 00:49:20,812 I don't think the board has information on hiring practices. 700 00:49:20,812 --> 00:49:26,847 I don't know if there's anyone here that can address that. 701 00:49:26,847 --> 00:49:31,238 >> It'd just be a typical -- it's a job posting -- 702 00:49:31,238 --> 00:49:35,167 an interview process and I'm not sure where they're at in that 703 00:49:35,167 --> 00:49:37,780 process, the jobs posted that are -- 704 00:49:37,780 --> 00:49:42,167 the jobs not been posted yet but -- 705 00:49:42,167 --> 00:49:45,550 that position falls on the development services department 706 00:49:45,550 --> 00:49:49,361 but they are aware of it and working on -- 707 00:49:49,361 --> 00:49:51,157 it's my understanding. 708 00:49:51,157 --> 00:49:55,957 This board wouldn't be involved for my understanding. 709 00:49:56,207 --> 00:49:59,473 >> But you would be interested in having an arborist come 710 00:49:59,473 --> 00:50:01,267 a right? 711 00:50:01,267 --> 00:50:03,927 >> We have a position for a city forester. 712 00:50:03,927 --> 00:50:06,327 I'm sorry, County forester. 713 00:50:06,559 --> 00:50:12,527 I came from the city so I keep using that word too much. 714 00:50:12,527 --> 00:50:14,527 >> It's okay. 715 00:50:14,887 --> 00:50:18,837 >> Do you have any updates you want to do on the Heritage Tree 716 00:50:18,837 --> 00:50:19,387 program? 717 00:50:19,387 --> 00:50:22,387 We had discussion around that. 718 00:50:22,482 --> 00:50:24,987 We have not pursued that. 719 00:50:24,987 --> 00:50:27,687 We decided to work on a tree planting program. 720 00:50:27,687 --> 00:50:31,607 Is that what -- does anybody need to address that? 721 00:50:31,607 --> 00:50:38,207 I think we'll move forward on -- >> I can address that. 722 00:50:42,856 --> 00:50:45,439 >> Yeah, staff does not have an update about the Heritage Tree 723 00:50:45,439 --> 00:50:47,612 program and that system made. 724 00:50:47,612 --> 00:50:50,504 Towards that end, part of the reason for that 725 00:50:50,504 --> 00:50:52,722 is losing staff recently. 726 00:50:52,722 --> 00:50:56,382 Staff is pretty tight in the office and there's also 727 00:50:56,382 --> 00:50:59,183 discussions about recently over the last year the county has 728 00:50:59,183 --> 00:51:02,207 been looking at tightening the budget and focusing on what 729 00:51:02,207 --> 00:51:06,115 staff is working on as well as the potential -- 730 00:51:06,115 --> 00:51:09,807 the election coming up in November and potentially -- 731 00:51:09,807 --> 00:51:12,899 on property taxes and we can also be constrained for county 732 00:51:12,899 --> 00:51:13,399 budgeting. 733 00:51:13,399 --> 00:51:18,663 It's part of the conversation and -- in how staff is working. 734 00:51:18,663 --> 00:51:21,454 At this point that hasn't been tabled for a while. 735 00:51:21,454 --> 00:51:23,535 It's not been ex indefinitely. 736 00:51:23,535 --> 00:51:27,207 But for now we don't have an update. 737 00:51:27,207 --> 00:51:29,237 >> We would focus on the tree program, 738 00:51:29,237 --> 00:51:31,711 the planting program because we have a budget for that. 739 00:51:31,711 --> 00:51:36,467 And that money is earmarked specifically for that program. 740 00:51:36,467 --> 00:51:39,415 >> We feel it's something staff can handle and go forward with. 741 00:51:39,415 --> 00:51:41,815 So that's the plan. 742 00:51:42,807 --> 00:51:44,470 >> Thank you. 743 00:51:44,470 --> 00:51:45,707 >> Thank you. 744 00:51:45,707 --> 00:51:49,671 Is there anyone else for public comment? 745 00:51:49,671 --> 00:51:50,791 Or general? 746 00:51:50,791 --> 00:51:51,335 No? 747 00:51:51,335 --> 00:51:53,495 We don't have anything? 748 00:51:53,495 --> 00:51:57,719 Did any member want to speak to anything? 749 00:51:57,719 --> 00:51:58,983 No comment? 750 00:51:58,983 --> 00:51:59,719 No? 751 00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:02,719 Then we will adjourn at 5:49. 752 00:52:05,732 --> 00:52:08,732 Can I ring the gavel?