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We are going to start our meeting.

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I have some of you seated. Please rise. Ladies and gentlemen, Muscarella

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will read this in a pledge of allegiance. Thank you.

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welcoming everyone who has joined us today

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for this meeting of the National County Legislature. I had to say that there has been a lack

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of communication about the capacity for this room. We had intended to set this room at a capacity

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one hundred, and it's obviously well beyond one hundred people here.

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So, there is a concern in that we are not out of the pandemic yet.

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We have concerned about having this many people in the room together at one point.

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So, a number of things. There may be space in the minority of the Abrahamians,

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often, there may be space in his side of the, we are the building

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to accommodate some people, not for that many.

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Secondly, if you're speaking, you've spoken, because I have probably 50, 60 slips.

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If after you've spoken, you can go out and leave the chambers.

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It would actually, we have some spaces as well.

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So we're trying to, we're going to accommodate everyone who wants to speak.

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Every one who wants to speak, every one who wants to speak on the bill.

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Obviously, we will do so.

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But at the same time, we're trying to manage the system, the situation as well as we can.

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Having said that, the first order of business today is

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for the top cops, which we do each month,

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to recognize police officers,

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corrections officers, medics, and others,

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for their outstanding work.

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So I would advise James McDermott

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up to the podium with his honorees.

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But just so you know what we're doing.

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We're doing this part of the program,

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which will be for the recognized

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of the top cops as I mentioned.

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After that, we will have a time period for public comment, which will be more of a general

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nature, and then after that, we will go right into the bill with respect to first responders

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and discrimination.

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So that'll be the first thing on our agenda after we finish public comment.

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Go ahead.

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Sure.

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Legislative.

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I'm sorry.

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I'm sorry.

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As I look out into the crowd, and I'm thankful that we have as many people we have to discuss

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the agenda, but more particularly the item that's before us, the bill, that's before us.

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If anyone, if you have a mask, please put on your mask.

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I just want to express that level of caution that I think as a presiding officer said,

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I think we all can agree,

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that we have, I mean, I know we are getting in the direction

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where we want things to be better in our county.

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ever as it pertains to COVID, but we are not out of the woods yet.

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And NASA, according to the CDC, has been designated as an area where COVID is still

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contagious if I have substantial degree.

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We are still better than most of the country, but we are still not where we want to be yet.

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So I'm asking anyone that has a mask in their pocket to please place their mask.

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I'm sorry,

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I'm asking, I'm asking all, I'm asking, sir, sir, first of all,

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I very rarely address folks directly that are not at the podium.

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I'm going to say that first.

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But I'm going to ask for everyone to place a mask on.

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That wasn't just folks for the lights.

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I said everyone to place a mask on if they have a mask on their person.

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I'm wearing a mask.

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Since I've been back at the legislature, I've always wore a mask.

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I'm gonna, sir, sir, sir, you asked to determine what your own responsibility level is.

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My responsibility level is, I see a room of over 200,000 people.

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Thank you.

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Everyone, thank you, sir.

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Thank you, sir. Thank you.

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Thank you. Thank you.

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Thank you.

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That's all.

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All right.

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Thank you very much.

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James and Alex.

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Good afternoon, everyone.

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and my name is Police Officer Kevin Mullig, I'm with the Nastikanity Police

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Federal Association, I'm the chairman of the Board of Trustees, and I'll be presenting

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the top cops today.

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For the legislative cops, August 2021, Police Officers, Michael Harmony, Brian Lemcki,

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Sean Clark, and Wyatt Russo.

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On July 6, 2021, approximately 3 a.m., Officer Larmony, while working at Marine Base,

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received a distress call for a female stating that herself and her husband were on a cell

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and he went to diabetic shock.

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She did not know exactly where the cell boat was anchored,

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possibly Oyster Bay.

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She was able to explain some landmarks around her

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to Officer Larmony, and he was able to quickly pinpoint

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where the cell boat was in cold spring hopper

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and dispatch Marine 11 to search the area.

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Knowing that Suffolk Marine Bureau

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would have an extended response time to that area.

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Marine 11 officers, Lemke, Clark, and Russo aboard

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began making their way toward the aided's location.

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Using radar due to the dock conditions and poor visibility on the water.

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Upon arrival at the location,

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EWIT numerous boats moored in the area.

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Ophs were able to quickly locate the aided cell boat,

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tying it off.

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Ophs was boarded to the cell boat,

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where they found the aided laying unresponsive in the cabin.

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The aided's location in the cell vote as well as the small layout and narrow ladder

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well made the working area and extradition the victim extremely difficult.

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While with little room to maneuver, the officers made modifications to the cell vote

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in order to extradition the aided to the top deck.

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Officers were able to lift the aided out of the thin ladder

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while putting him on the deck of the cell vote.

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despite the unsteady sees officer safely transferred the aided and his wife on to Marine 11.

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Marine 11 then began to navigate back to the Teddy Roosevelt Marina,

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where he was transferred to an awaiting OIST of a fight department, ambulance, and transported

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to Siyasat Hospital. Due to the officer's quick response, teamwork, and political experience,

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they were able to save the aided. The Nassacat of PVA is proud to name police officers,

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of Larmony, Lempy, Clark, and Russo, ledgercely of Pop Cops, the 20th of August 2021.

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First of all, I like to, again, congratulate them for their great job. I want to recognize

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the fact that I think we all agree that the service that our men and women do is in serving

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up public in Nassau County. They did a great job, and it's because of the tools that you have

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all given them. All of you, and I thank you for that and continue to support. Thank you.

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Okay, none of the officers want to say anything.

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All right.

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Let's see.

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Let's see.

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Let's see.

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Let's see.

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Let's see.

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Thank you, Presiding Officer.

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There's been an unprecedented amount of boaters this year.

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The National County Marine Bureau continues to save the lives of residents in distress.

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And we thank you for your heroism and service.

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But I also wanted to take a moment to recognize our other honorees who are here with us today.

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We have Anthony DeCarolis, First Assistant Chief Paramedic, Nicole Pantina, EMT, and John

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Hambrook Chief of the Oyster Bay Volunteer Fire Department.

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They were also crucial in this save and the Oyster Bay Fire Department continues to be one

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of the finest volunteer fire departments in the county.

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We're so grateful and I'm so grateful to be a legislator.

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Thank you.

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Okay, let's let it walk.

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Thank you.

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A thanking congratulate our honorees this morning. This is not the only time you've been out on the

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water to save those who are in need. And I thank you for always being on the look out and

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making those saves very often that you're not recognized for. And to our fire department, too,

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I used to represent the voice debate, fire department. So it's nice to see you back again, although that's not part

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of my district anymore. I thank you, a member of the, I'm a member of the ladies of the

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So far, Department, and I know how much you do when the hard work you do in dedication, you have to all our residents.

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So thank you all and God bless and say say.

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And we do have citations reach of you.

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Rich, you want to come up here.

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If you'd like to all come up, and we have citations for you.

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Do I smell good?

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Yeah.

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Legislative, we do have an additional top cop to present today.

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-op the members of emergency services and the fire marshals next kind of fire marshals

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anybody from ESU please come on up

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and the fire marshals.

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So we have a very big group here today, so bear with me. So for the Legislative top cops for July of 2021

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Lieutenant John Barrett, police officers Mark Babbage, Patrick McWink, Brett Roslow and Robert Shutterwitch

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are going to be our honorees from the National Security Police Department.

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On July 7, 2021, and approximately 0,408 hours, emergency services unit, I'll call them

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ESU, was requested to the scene of an overturned oil tanker.

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The initial port was of an oil tanker that was on its side leaking fuel with the driver

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pendant inside.

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ESU responded accordingly, upon arrival, and 2,426, ESU members, Nick work, and Roslow

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checked on the local fire chief who had established the fire command. He informed the

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issue crew members that the driver of the tanker had been removed. Prior to issues

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arrival. However, they started very large gas leak. The tanker had just been fully

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loaded with the combination of gasoline and diesel fuel. That's what I'm reading here

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over 11,000 gallons of gas. The issue made their initial entry and counted members of

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inward and Lawrence Cedarhurst's fight departments,

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beginning to mitigate several of the leaks.

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These will few was treafloing out of a barely damaged cap,

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and gasoline was pouring out of several damage

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to smaller sections.

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ESU crew went back to the truck to retrieve mitigation equipment.

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The other EESU truck, which was occupied by Offs' Babbage

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and Shutterwich, were re-directed back to the base

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to get ESU has not heavy rescue.

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Lieutenant Barrett responded to the incident command

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to oversee ESU's operation file by Sergeant Favour.

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Issue crew, McWork, and Roslow,

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then re-entered the scene and began the process of diking,

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plugging and capping the leaks.

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This was now being done under the cover of the fire,

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the fire department foam blanket that was actively being applied

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by the fire department to help prevent fire and explosion.

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Issue crew plugs several of the small leaks,

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reducing down to completely stop again to a small drip.

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Issue crew then assisted the members of the fight apartment with the, with the, with the less remaining large leak.

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The leak was slowed from flee flowing down to more of a manageable leak.

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The fight apartment also set up several hazmat booms around the storm drains.

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The fight apartments now bolstered by enormous amount of mutual aid, continue to apply foam.

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issue crew then made another entry with the fire marshals to cap the remaining unsecured fuel

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caps as a precautionary member. The fire marshals assisted issue by drilling holes on into

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the side of each of the tank safely unloaded the remaining fuel onto another tanker. The U.S.

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Coast Guard had also been boarded with Marine Bureau an aviation to address some of the

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then perform decondamination of any members requiring it.

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Through these combined efforts, the, with the combined efforts of the

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marshals, the fight apartments, and our emergency services, we have heard of the disaster.

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The NASA County PBA is proud to present Lieutenant Barrett, Peel Babbage, Peel

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McWork, Peel Roslow, Peel Shutterwich, as the top cop legislate top

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Perhaps for July of 2021.

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Secretary Taro.

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Chief, congratulations.

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Thank you.

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I was on a new fire marshal.

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Let's Thursday night.

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Yes.

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Thanks very much.

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You've been the go-to guy for all of us all 19 of us over the years.

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Well, thrilled that you're in that position and we know you're the great job.

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Thank you very much.

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Look forward to keep working with you.

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And thank you for this opportunity.

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As the police officers had just mentioned before,

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Wednesday, July 7th, 2021. The National County Fire Martial's office has its

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material team was requested by Chief Curcio, the Inwood Fire Department,

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to respond to the senior overturned gasoline tanker truck.

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It gives a section of Burnside Avenue and reps 878.

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Hasbet 2 with Supervisor Seabird, and Fire Martial Martin Golden, was assigned at 0-425,

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0-425 hours and arrived on scene at 0-446 hours.

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On arrival, the scene has about two was positioned southbound on Route 878, the National Expressway.

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Underneath West Corner, Burntside Avenue, along with NCPD, ESU, 2-4-2-4.

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Has my crew may contact with the fire department command post, has met done personal protective gear,

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including SCBA, and proceeded to proceed to the overturn tank into assist at the scene and determine an action plan.

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It was learned that the gasoline tanker had just loaded with a little more than 11,300 g on the gasoline and diesel fuel.

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The tanker was facing north on the northeast corner of Route 878 Burnside, and was laying on his passenger side.

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There were multiple active leaks found on the tanker, fire-mocial and CPDE issue, and fire department personnel worked seamlessly together to manage and mitigate the leaks.

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additional resources could be amassed, and I have to say from the guys on scene, I was not

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on seeing that day, the Police Department and Fire Department and the Fire Marshal's office

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worked well together, and really got a very dangerous condition under control in good-time

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frame with no injuries. Fire Department also began to launch scale foam operations to control

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the vapors of flammable products that have been released, while these actions will be

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These personnel included assisted chief fire module James Hickman has met division supervisor Michael Monella has met supervising fire module Frank Dubens

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has met supervising fire module John Keller and fire module Kyle O'Brien

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Once these personnel were on scene and its action plan was developed and included assessing the six separate compartments

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of the tanker by drilling or cold tapping each compartment and then using a long pipe or stinger to reach the fuel inside

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The truck and company was able to provide an empty tanker to offload all the flammable liquids into it.

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Additional agencies were notified to respond, including New York State Department of

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Environmental Conservation Skills Division, the New York State Department of

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Environmental Conservation Police Department, the National County Department of Public Works,

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the town of Hemsford, the Department of Public Works, and the United States Coast Guard.

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After completing the safety check, which includes the application of

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dome cover clamps to each department establishing a static electricity grounding field,

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And then applying grounding and bonding cables to both damage tanker as well as the recovery

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vehicle, the drilling team members were briefed, checked their equipment, and began the work

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at the highest point of the overturn tanker.

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The drilling and offloading process was completed, using two rotating crews over the course

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of approximately two hours.

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The weather was also as significant challenges the drilling crews had to be pressed out in full

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turn out here in SCBA with temperatures of reaching 92 degrees with high humidity.

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This weather pattern made it difficult for the personnel on scene and also made the 11,000 gallons of gasoline and diesel even more volatile.

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Ultimately, it was determined that the tanker had loaded was fully loaded and over the 10,000 to 200 gallons of fuel that were recovered,

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which was a 90 percent recovery rate of all the fuel on scene.

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The trucking company was ordered to hire an environmental cleanup contractor and clean up operations began under the direction of the DEC.

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has about operations, we're concluded, we're conducted on the direction of chief

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equipment and division supervisor Manila.

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Personal, fire, martial personnel, present included, those aforementioned, industrial

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division supervisor Andrew Schmidt has about supervising fire, martial mark

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seabird who is on the drilling team, has about supervising fire, martial

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john Keller on the drilling team, industrial supervising fire, martial

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john Madden, fire, martial martin golden, fire, martial

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Kyle O'Brien, Robert Scher, Daniel Gierdino, Dominic Buffelino, Michael Marciano,

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Brian O'Malley, James Hopelman, and John O'Brien.

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This is the Chief FireMotion for Fire Rescue Services, Timmy Pocilla,

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supervising dispatcher, Brian Vobley, and dispatcher, James Allen,

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Manfield Com, and that helped with operations,

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which would give you the case in between all agencies.

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So, that was a mouthful, but the guys did excellent job that day,

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Again, the work between all agencies was excellent,

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and that's what the public expects.

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So I thank you for your honor.

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I request that we turn the egg in the shun of back on.

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But I first realized the incident commander

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for the pandemic, I got the work very close

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with the fire marshals, and I saw the expertise

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that Mike DiTaro and before him, Chief DiTaro,

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I'm a city chief, yeah, we've got him already.

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But they did a great job, but they really did

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come together, the best interest for the public, and that's what was out there.

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Your police medics, your volunteer fire services, they all worked together as one team,

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and that's why we are here where we are today.

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So, again, they've always done a great job, and I know Chief Yotaro is going to do a phenomenal

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job going forward.

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Thank you.

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Okay. This response was typical of what we expect from our first responders. I'll be half of the entire five towns area, which I represent, or together with Legislator Ford.

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I want to create a curtain, the third legislative district. Thank you. Thank you. Including me as well.

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I think we're including you as well.

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And then would, that's right.

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I want to send you to me a park.

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I've met on me a park.

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Did I get it all?

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Well, I'm cold.

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Can I go on now?

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OK, I think it's a third time you're discussing matters

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in my district without giving my office a courtesy.

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You're welcome to say, if you were.

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You're welcome.

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Have you led to say, obviously?

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You're welcome to say, if you were, it's afterwards.

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Sure.

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I'm sorry.

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It means you're up, should.

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It's typical of the way our first responders work together, it was a magnificent display and I know living in the area, I know how difficult this was, because not only was this an ultra hazard situation, you're exposed to fumes in your exposed to fire and perhaps explosion guard for bit, you also had this incident happening on a main artery, which resulted very quickly in the entire area.

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area being gridlocked for, I don't know,

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was about the 16 hours or something like that,

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which made a lot of people unhappy,

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and which made your job more difficult.

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You have to get in and get out and deal with unhappy people.

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So on the whole, this was handled in a wonderful fashion,

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in a brave fashion, in an expeditious fashion, and I just sit here full of admiration for

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the work that you all do, and I can't express no end of appreciation. Thank you.

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Thank you. Thank you again. I would like to thank all the members of the Fire Department,

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the all the first responders, the Police Department, for operating on the same page that day,

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operating on the same frequency, I observed what happened that day and what you guys

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was phenomenal. You protected the public. I'm just like a thank you very much. What

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did that day? Thank you.

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Yeah, thank you. I guess you all want to come up here for a photo. It's going to be well

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invited up. Come on up

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to the Association.

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I'm John Wakehouse president of the

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Ness County Detective Association. I want to thank

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Rich Nicollelo.

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I can do that on purpose really, that's where it's very difficult.

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I'd like to thank my Nardlee de Abraham's and the full legislative body.

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It's great to be back and honoring our detectives.

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Today we have detectives.

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He'll fill in and makes pikeler from the fifth squad.

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On May 16th, 2021, detectives fill in and spikeler

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were traveling on Fletcher Avenue in Valley Stream in an unmarked police vehicle.

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When they observed a male walking northbound on Fletcher Avenue with what appeared to be the brown

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handle of a gun sticking out of his waistband over a tucked in t-shirt, the detectives did a

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secondary pass to confirm what they had observed. Detectives filled in a spike-ler exited

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their auto with their detectives shields displayed on their out-of-most garment and verbally

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identified themselves as the police.

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The subject then took a step to the rear to create distance between himself and the detectives.

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He then reached to his waistband and pulled out what appeared to be a black revolver with

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his left hand and pointed the gun at the detectives.

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The detectives while utilizing their training and experience to cover, through their weapons,

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while giving multiple commands for the subject to drop his gun.

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After several verbal commands from the detectives,

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the subject eventually dropped his weapon,

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and was taken into custody without further incident.

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As a result of the detective,

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Philbin, and detectives, spikelers, years of experience

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and law enforcement, and the comprehensive training

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we receive in the National County Police Department,

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these detectives display the utmost restraint

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on the use of force while encountering an emotionally disturbed person.

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I would like to introduce to you the Texas Philbin and Spikler.

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Everything that's gone on in the past two years

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with reform and mental health and the way we should treat

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and respectfully treat those that are out there with the mental health illness.

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I watched this video over and over and over again

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as it was captured by somebody's doorbell ring.

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The restraint that our officers showed, the respect that our officers showed, that person needing

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exactly what it ended up being, is help in a hospital, not in a rest, getting him to

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where he should be, getting in the treatment he should be, was because of the training that

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we receive.

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It's because of the reforms that we've put in place.

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It's because of people like Commissioner McCumbings and her team who are addressing exactly

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what this should be.

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It's about mental health and treating our victims.

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But unfortunately, that day could have went the other direction.

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And unfortunately, my cops would have been the victims

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that would have had to live with that the rest of their life

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of what their actions that they took.

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And that's also because of the bill that was passed two years ago

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protecting the mental health of our officers.

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So I thank both of you, all of you, for what you do for our department.

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And sometimes we get caught up in a lot up here.

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But the fact that we're able to take care of the public the way we did that day, take care of

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a cops the way they did that day is exactly the way this should all work out, right?

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So again, I want to thank them outstanding, both of them what they did that day, and they deserve

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a nice round of applause.

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Thank you.

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I just want to say thank you to the not only the legislature for calling us up here for this

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and recognizing not only us but our squad that does a lot of work in the fifth precinct, but

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The leadership of the fifth precinct squad, the fellow fifth squad detectives that help us out that day,

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and the whole chain of command all the way up to Chief of Detectives and Commissioner Ryder,

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as well as the DAI, so thank you very much.

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If I may, Officer Filbin also has served in a United States Marine Corps and still serves today,

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and has gone back and forth serving off country.

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So let's sort of salized and let's sort of

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afford to do. Again, I would like to thank you very much for what you did that day,

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And in the day, it's just one less gun that doesn't deserve to be on the street that was on the streets.

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And I just want to thank you for that most importantly, it was unfortunately where you are going through an epidemic of gun violence.

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I just want to thank you for that, and I also thank you for using the tactics of de-escalation,

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or what you've learned in the academy, and what you've relearned it.

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And I think my colleagues also, for stressing the importance of de-escalation and addressing

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and providing more resources for mental health issues, so thank you very much.

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I too want to echo all the sentiments of everybody in our gratitude for the restraint

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that you showed and your professionalism and you really put on display with the training

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that you get through the academy and the concentration that you get as a police officer working

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day in and day out in the 5th precinct, so I think it is remarkable what you did, how you were

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to be able to escalate the situation and be able to have a better, a much better outcome than what could have happened.

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So really, we owe you a debt of gratitude and thank you very much for your bravery.

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You would just join us a few.

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These lines and then there's a point of personal privilege that we'll get to the visit today,

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but as I'd like to invite up Chris calendar for the police

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fighting us here.

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The assignment today I have, we spent a coordinator Scott DiPino, we spent a really bad

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of sin as well as Chris Russollo.

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And I also have Mr. and Mrs. Wachoski.

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All right, a March 13th at about 9.30 in the morning, the Nessa County Police Department was dispatched to a construction area near the Miniola Railroad for its 29-year-old female who was unconscious in the responsive. Within three minutes, the medics arrived to start providing care. As they arrived, the construction crew was actually lowering the aided down onto the grounds. You may ask why I say that that way. The aided is a construction worker,

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who was poised it all the way up, working with the iron to set up the bridge that was being

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set up there. Bystanders advised the medics that while she was working, the opposite end of

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her beam accidentally touched a 9,000 volts high voltage wire and electro-puted her. The medics

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were able to see that there was a path of electricity that reached from her hands which she was

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holding the rod with, threw her body down to her knee.

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Immediately once they got there,

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please met a coordinator, Scott DiPino,

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insubated her.

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You put a tube into her lungs, started breathing for her.

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Chris Racillo,

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drilled into her bone to get access to give her

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advanced life-saving medication,

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as well as Billy Batterson attached to CPR machine

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that automatically does perfect CPR throughout its entirety.

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Everything seems to be getting better, getting better.

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They shocked her about three times.

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One finally Kelly started developing her own heartbreed.

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She started breathing on her own.

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And at that point, they started rolling it

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to winter pass, but all which is right down the road.

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So if it wasn't for these three medics behind me,

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we wouldn't be here today.

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And I'd like to introduce you guys to Mr. Mrs. Luchaski.

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Thank you.

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What can I say?

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This is unbelievable.

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I'm so glad you guys are recognizing these guys.

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It's really, they turned up our pain into joy.

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It was an incredible story, she's doing better, she's recuperating, she would love to be here,

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but she had something else to do, and she just wants to send her appreciation too, so thank you very much, everyone.

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We have the greatest police medics in the world, and it's down.

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We have a great hospital system, went through up to a great job that they are doctors and nurses.

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But none of it, none of it would have been done if they didn't have the equipment that you gave

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that CPR machine, the defibrillator, all of that comes from you all recognizing what is

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important and putting it in the hands of the people to do their job.

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So today, on top of thanking our police medics, I want to thank all of you, and again,

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for giving us those opportunities to save lives and have stories like we have here today.

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Thank you.

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I'd like to echo Commissioner Ryder.

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I've been up here several times and you guys over the past two and a half years have

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spearheaded, putting on the ambulances, some of the cutting edge of equipment that we use

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to save lives daily. One of them is a CPU arm machine, and with commissioner riders

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full of thought, and you're backing every police ambulance has one of them, and I can only

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tell you, it's used every day, to save lives. Kelly is an amazing testament to be 29 to be an

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iron worker, and I just want to give a shout out to her co-workers who without them, and

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their quick actions, and guiding the ambulance and myself in, none of this would have been

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Well, true teamwork and amazing, amazing lady and we wish we're all the best.

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It's amazing to be involved and actually see someone so full of life come back to life

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and the three of us had the opportunity to meet her with what an amazing woman.

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So it was great stuff. Thank you.

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Thank you very much and thank you for the comments with respect to the equipment

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and that really is a small part of what you do.

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Obviously without the human element, the human skill,

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trading the dedication this type of thing doesn't happen and I think all of us are an

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or the fact that you walk into a situation in a dire emergency and act in a cool,

455
01:34:25,460 --> 01:34:31,440
confident, professional fashion and say people in the circumstances. That's the first thing

456
01:34:31,440 --> 01:34:35,720
I want to say. Secondly, we haven't seen you since the pandemic. We haven't had these ceremonies.

457
01:34:36,560 --> 01:34:40,440
And I want to say personally, I know behalf of all of us. Thank you for all of our

458
01:34:40,440 --> 01:34:43,280
It was like a war zone for you.

459
01:34:43,540 --> 01:34:45,860
I know it was night after night after night.

460
01:34:46,020 --> 01:34:48,400
One of the calls with people seriously on this,

461
01:34:48,580 --> 01:34:49,480
putting yourself in harm's way.

462
01:34:50,340 --> 01:34:51,480
So you really are doing God's works.

463
01:34:51,620 --> 01:34:53,160
So thank you for all that you do.

464
01:34:57,570 --> 01:34:59,910
I just want to come up for your citations.

465
01:36:51,260 --> 01:36:53,720
I just like the Lord's safer for a point of personal privilege.

466
01:36:56,500 --> 01:36:57,100
Good afternoon.

467
01:36:58,420 --> 01:37:02,080
I'd like to call Superintendent Finn up to the podium here.

468
01:37:03,040 --> 01:37:04,740
We're there two teachers, if you would.

469
01:37:07,300 --> 01:37:08,380
Thank you for your patience.

470
01:37:09,560 --> 01:37:15,840
And for coming today, so today I have the privilege of doing a point of personal privilege

471
01:37:15,840 --> 01:37:20,040
honoring two teachers from the core place school district.

472
01:37:21,280 --> 01:37:26,220
I understand you had a harrow experience this summer with one of your students that potentially

473
01:37:26,220 --> 01:37:27,040
could have been fatal.

474
01:37:27,780 --> 01:37:30,400
So I'm wondering if you can just give us a little bit of the information of what happened

475
01:37:30,400 --> 01:37:31,900
that day.

476
01:37:32,320 --> 01:37:33,980
Just press the red button.

477
01:37:35,360 --> 01:37:35,840
Yes.

478
01:37:36,220 --> 01:37:37,320
Christine Finn?

479
01:37:37,840 --> 01:37:40,400
I'm the proud superintendent of the CarPlay School District.

480
01:37:41,100 --> 01:37:46,680
One of the few districts that was open five days a week, K-12 since September, right

481
01:37:46,680 --> 01:37:50,100
through June and these two teachers were a big part of that.

482
01:37:50,320 --> 01:37:51,120
More importantly,

483
01:37:53,360 --> 01:37:56,840
they were responsible for saving the life of a student at a track

484
01:37:56,840 --> 01:37:57,060
being.

485
01:37:57,820 --> 01:37:59,720
And the parents could not be here today.

486
01:37:59,860 --> 01:38:03,340
They are out of the country, but I want to read a letter that they sent us.

487
01:38:03,340 --> 01:38:08,900
Dear Mr. Colmo and Miss Martino, words cannot thank you enough for your quick presence

488
01:38:08,900 --> 01:38:13,400
of mine and handling of our daughter's medical emergency at the track being at North Shore

489
01:38:13,400 --> 01:38:13,960
yesterday.

490
01:38:14,520 --> 01:38:15,500
This was on June 10.

491
01:38:16,020 --> 01:38:20,960
Thanks to both of you, and Epi-10 was administered quickly and Francesca felt better.

492
01:38:21,340 --> 01:38:25,600
No further treatment was needed at the hospital and our daughter was discharged after

493
01:38:25,600 --> 01:38:26,420
three hours.

494
01:38:26,800 --> 01:38:30,100
You also kept our other child calm and supported her as well.

495
01:38:30,100 --> 01:38:35,080
Although I may have seemed calm, I was thankful Mr. Komo and Ms. Martino that you had taken

496
01:38:35,080 --> 01:38:39,940
charge of the situation with the trainer and administered the Epipen because I was shaken.

497
01:38:40,660 --> 01:38:45,340
Both our daughters enjoy track this year very much and look forward to participating in

498
01:38:45,340 --> 01:38:46,460
it again next year.

499
01:38:47,280 --> 01:38:52,680
These two teachers, speedy reaction, Marissa running to the bus and grabbing the Epipen and

500
01:38:52,680 --> 01:38:56,660
Dan utilizing his medical background and keeping the girl calm and relaxed.

501
01:38:56,660 --> 01:39:01,080
such an important thing to know. Dan, great call, and having the pulse

502
01:39:01,080 --> 01:39:05,220
socks ready to go see that the oxygen levels are coming back. We are proud of

503
01:39:05,220 --> 01:39:09,180
both of you. You're an excellent team. You made the right call and kept your

504
01:39:09,180 --> 01:39:13,800
cool under a tremendous amount of pressure. Let away the end of great year and

505
01:39:13,800 --> 01:39:18,040
joy the rest of the school year you made a difference. Thank you so much. Thank you so

506
01:39:18,040 --> 01:39:24,860
much. Thank you. Thank you. Mr. Cuomo, Mr. Martino again. I just want to thank you.

507
01:39:25,500 --> 01:39:27,600
They don't have to, that's okay.

508
01:39:28,300 --> 01:39:32,800
Just thank you so much for being here and to really thank you for springing into action the way you did.

509
01:39:33,140 --> 01:39:39,260
You know, everything's been so difficult, especially for our school teachers and our superintendents over the last year and a half.

510
01:39:40,420 --> 01:39:47,640
To have this on top of it, it's just wonderful to know there are people that are working in school districts who have this kind of emergency training.

511
01:39:48,020 --> 01:39:51,480
And who can do something like this and save a student.

512
01:39:52,160 --> 01:39:53,000
So thank you again.

513
01:39:53,000 --> 01:39:54,600
If you don't mind coming out here, it should be well.

514
01:39:55,160 --> 01:39:57,140
Absolutely, come on up here, thank you.

515
01:39:57,400 --> 01:39:58,480
We are a small group.

516
01:40:11,440 --> 01:40:13,600
We're going to see the public comment process.

517
01:40:13,840 --> 01:40:17,020
So what we have for each meeting is a public comment section,

518
01:40:17,560 --> 01:40:20,820
where you can speak on issues of general interest.

519
01:40:21,560 --> 01:40:23,860
Anyone who's going to speak on the discrimination

520
01:40:23,860 --> 01:40:26,400
against first responders build, that will be called

521
01:40:26,400 --> 01:40:27,300
in a couple of moments.

522
01:40:27,520 --> 01:40:31,260
But anyone who was here to speak on a general hydrant

523
01:40:41,050 --> 01:40:42,810
is at the wait one moment until they come back.

524
01:40:42,810 --> 01:40:43,590
Do you

525
01:40:48,230 --> 01:40:49,070
want to speak in sub-the town?

526
01:40:49,250 --> 01:40:50,070
Come on up.

527
01:40:53,040 --> 01:40:53,600
Press the button.

528
01:40:56,990 --> 01:40:58,310
Can you hear me?

529
01:40:59,070 --> 01:41:00,290
Hi, my name is Bruce.

530
01:41:00,910 --> 01:41:02,710
Uh, grew up in Newcastle.

531
01:41:08,200 --> 01:41:09,740
Bruce Hammond's.

532
01:41:11,700 --> 01:41:13,220
So, uh, one thing that I want to talk about

533
01:41:13,220 --> 01:41:16,500
was we have heard stories about

534
01:41:16,500 --> 01:41:18,780
obviously officers serving the community

535
01:41:18,780 --> 01:41:20,800
and rendering aid.

536
01:41:21,580 --> 01:41:24,080
I would like to understand why

537
01:41:24,080 --> 01:41:26,420
there is not a single officer in this room

538
01:41:26,420 --> 01:41:27,860
wearing a mask right now.

539
01:41:29,620 --> 01:41:35,620
And I would like an answer from the commissioner about why not one.

540
01:41:35,920 --> 01:41:40,020
I saw one officer happen to be a black man.

541
01:41:40,680 --> 01:41:41,860
He was in the back of the room.

542
01:41:42,460 --> 01:41:45,020
The only one wearing a mask in this room.

543
01:41:45,940 --> 01:41:54,480
So, how we supposed to expect people to render aid for us

544
01:41:54,480 --> 01:41:57,100
when they're not even protecting their own lives?

545
01:41:57,640 --> 01:42:01,020
I would like to understand that if the commission is still in the room,

546
01:42:06,230 --> 01:42:07,170
or anyone from

547
01:42:07,690 --> 01:42:13,030
National County PD brass, is in this room I would like to understand the decision behind

548
01:42:13,030 --> 01:42:17,550
that, because there were young people that went around this entire room and offered each

549
01:42:17,550 --> 01:42:22,950
and every one of you masks and none of you took them, and I'd like to understand why.

550
01:42:43,920 --> 01:42:48,860
Mr. Lafazard, me pointing that out is that, is that a hate crime in my bullying right

551
01:42:48,860 --> 01:42:49,020
Now,

552
01:43:01,470 --> 01:43:02,830
I'm right here.

553
01:43:04,850 --> 01:43:05,330
I'm...

554
01:43:05,330 --> 01:43:06,550
Josh, I'm right here.

555
01:43:11,550 --> 01:43:12,510
Is that...

556
01:43:12,510 --> 01:43:14,510
Is that covered in your garbage legislation?

557
01:43:14,990 --> 01:43:19,630
I just get involved in your rent for...

558
01:43:19,630 --> 01:43:20,070
Right.

559
01:43:20,070 --> 01:43:21,850
Yes, I get involved in someone else, Josh.

560
01:43:22,810 --> 01:43:23,470
Hold on a second.

561
01:43:23,870 --> 01:43:24,350
I'm done.

562
01:43:24,670 --> 01:43:25,310
Thank you.

563
01:43:30,720 --> 01:43:31,000
Mr.

564
01:43:33,600 --> 01:43:34,080
Microchip.

565
01:43:34,220 --> 01:43:35,320
Microchip, please call the roll, please.

566
01:43:36,240 --> 01:43:38,100
Hello, my name is Irene.

567
01:43:39,280 --> 01:43:40,460
Madam, I have to call the roll.

568
01:43:40,460 --> 01:43:41,280
Thank

569
01:43:47,270 --> 01:43:47,930
you for

570
01:43:51,860 --> 01:43:53,460
joining me.

571
01:43:54,260 --> 01:43:56,300
Thank you for joining Officer.

572
01:43:56,740 --> 01:43:59,000
Deputy Residing Officer, Howard Coupall.

573
01:44:00,760 --> 01:44:03,560
Alternate Deputy Residing Officer Denise Ford.

574
01:44:04,560 --> 01:44:06,420
Legislative Cilla Bino.

575
01:44:07,820 --> 01:44:09,360
Legislative Carrier Salage.

576
01:44:10,500 --> 01:44:13,380
Thank you. Legislative Deputy Muley.

577
01:44:14,420 --> 01:44:16,460
Legislative C William Gainwell III.

578
01:44:19,440 --> 01:44:27,560
Thank you. Legislative Vincent Musquirella. Legislative Ellen Bernbaum. Legislative

579
01:44:27,560 --> 01:44:35,320
Delia Derrigi Whitten. Thank you. Legislative James Kennedy. Legislative Thomas McEvet.

580
01:44:36,340 --> 01:44:37,220
Legislative Laura Schafer.

581
01:44:39,950 --> 01:44:44,530
Yes. Thank you. Legislative John Foretty.

582
01:44:47,490 --> 01:44:50,990
Legislative Arnold

583
01:44:50,990 --> 01:44:54,930
Joshua Lafazan, Legislative Stephen Rhodes.

584
01:44:55,950 --> 01:44:57,990
Thank you, minority leader, Kovon Abraham's,

585
01:44:59,270 --> 01:44:59,970
residing over the...

586
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:02,780
Richard Nickello here. We have a quorum, sir.

587
01:45:03,020 --> 01:45:03,420
Thank you.

588
01:45:03,600 --> 01:45:05,520
Do you have a submit a submit a slip?

589
01:45:06,860 --> 01:45:09,320
Ma'am, at the microphone, did you submit a submit a slip to speak?

590
01:45:09,480 --> 01:45:14,140
Yes, hi. My name is Irene Felita. I reside in Valley Street.

591
01:45:15,580 --> 01:45:19,120
Last summer, I participated in some of the marches on Long Island.

592
01:45:20,580 --> 01:45:25,340
I noticed then, as today, a lot of the police were not mass.

593
01:45:25,980 --> 01:45:36,060
But my main concern was that there were police officers with cameras, videotaping the protesters,

594
01:45:37,520 --> 01:45:39,000
and taking our photographs.

595
01:45:39,980 --> 01:45:41,640
I didn't know this was legal.

596
01:45:41,700 --> 01:45:44,880
I thought this was very chilling to our first amendment rights.

597
01:45:45,680 --> 01:45:51,440
I wrote a letter to the police department and I wrote a letter to Representative Kern, but

598
01:45:51,440 --> 01:45:52,880
I never received a reply.

599
01:45:53,560 --> 01:46:02,140
I would like to know what is the purpose of photographing, individual, protesters.

600
01:46:03,200 --> 01:46:07,240
I would like to know where those photographs are.

601
01:46:12,860 --> 01:46:19,700
Secondly, I was at another march in my town in Valley Stream, and we were walking down

602
01:46:19,700 --> 01:46:20,660
Rockaway Boulevard.

603
01:46:22,280 --> 01:46:27,260
The police told us that if we didn't get onto the sidewalk, we would be subject to arrest.

604
01:46:29,950 --> 01:46:40,250
Many of us got on to the sidewalk and then we were told that we were libel for arrest for blocking pedestrian traffic.

605
01:46:40,910 --> 01:46:46,910
This was on a sidewalk where there was not a pedestrian to be seen.

606
01:46:49,240 --> 01:46:52,880
So, I just want to know what kind of democracy we live in.

607
01:46:58,040 --> 01:47:05,040
I want to know what our first amendment rights are because it seems to me so far from what I've seen.

608
01:47:06,240 --> 01:47:08,080
This has been a little bit of a chariote.

609
01:47:08,760 --> 01:47:09,580
It's been eye-opening.

610
01:47:10,980 --> 01:47:11,860
Thank you.

611
01:47:20,970 --> 01:47:21,590
All right.

612
01:47:21,950 --> 01:47:23,790
We are going to go to the consent count.

613
01:47:23,970 --> 01:47:24,870
This will take a few moments.

614
01:47:25,310 --> 01:47:26,410
This is all items.

615
01:47:26,710 --> 01:47:28,210
That works with committees a couple of weeks ago.

616
01:47:28,370 --> 01:47:30,470
It's been agreed upon by the majority and minority.

617
01:47:30,710 --> 01:47:33,930
That no further debate of discussion is needed at this time.

618
01:47:34,490 --> 01:47:36,690
And that we can just move to a vote on these items.

619
01:47:40,920 --> 01:47:42,480
So, let me call them off.

620
01:47:42,480 --> 01:47:44,240
I'm 10 occurred.

621
01:47:44,880 --> 01:47:50,580
I'm 11, 1066, 1267, 13,

622
01:47:51,000 --> 01:47:55,540
168, 14, 169, 15, 177,

623
01:47:56,280 --> 01:48:02,840
177, 172, 173, 191, 174,

624
01:48:02,840 --> 01:48:05,620
Twenty-one,

625
01:48:15,920 --> 01:48:32,820
twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one, twenty-one

626
01:49:38,460 --> 01:49:45,700
Just one correction. We are pulling out of the consent calendar item 31 resolution 1-18.

627
01:49:45,960 --> 01:49:48,860
So that is not part of the consent calendar. It's not what I mean.

628
01:49:49,100 --> 01:49:50,620
That's what's going to be voted on the moment.

629
01:49:51,360 --> 01:49:56,020
Move by Deputy Attorney Officer Copel, seconded by minority leader Abraham, President of the

630
01:49:56,020 --> 01:50:00,440
Bay of the discussion. Here are nine all in favor signify by saying aye.

631
01:50:00,440 --> 01:50:05,020
Aye. Those opposed. They all pass unanimously. 18 to nothing.

632
01:50:05,020 --> 01:50:06,680
And now moving on to a calendar.

633
01:50:07,580 --> 01:50:10,020
Item one is a hearing and a proposed local law number.

634
01:50:10,640 --> 01:50:11,820
It doesn't have a number yet.

635
01:50:12,300 --> 01:50:16,040
A proposed local law to amend the National Accounting Administrative Code and

636
01:50:16,040 --> 01:50:20,520
Resolution to in relation to amending the National Accounting Human Rights Law

637
01:50:20,520 --> 01:50:22,960
to preclude discrimination against first responders.

638
01:50:23,620 --> 01:50:25,240
This is to open the hearing.

639
01:50:25,660 --> 01:50:28,020
Motion by a legislative officer and an open hearing,

640
01:50:28,020 --> 01:50:29,740
seconded by a legislative, the Reggie Witten.

641
01:50:30,300 --> 01:50:32,740
All in favor of opening hearing signify by saying aye.

642
01:50:32,740 --> 01:50:35,900
I, those opposed, carries unanimously.

643
01:50:36,860 --> 01:50:44,620
What we'll do is let's, let's the left, say we'll say if we words about this bill, then again we're going to open up to public comments,

644
01:50:44,880 --> 01:50:46,600
comment on this to an adhering.

645
01:50:47,160 --> 01:50:48,160
I have a number of slips.

646
01:50:48,600 --> 01:50:52,300
If you did not complete a slip already, please do so and give it to the clerk.

647
01:50:56,090 --> 01:50:56,790
Just speak after the hearing.

648
01:50:58,710 --> 01:51:00,170
All right, so here's what we're going to do.

649
01:51:00,270 --> 01:51:01,210
We're going to

650
01:51:08,160 --> 01:51:09,960
give, I would like to invite up this time,

651
01:51:09,960 --> 01:51:14,020
It's the Bryant Sullivan present of the correct synopsis benevolent of the society's

652
01:51:25,340 --> 01:51:26,240
good afternoon everybody

653
01:51:27,280 --> 01:51:28,040
Shots getting

654
01:51:29,180 --> 01:51:35,240
I believe there is no mandate and as an American citizen, I have the right to use a mask or not wear a mask

655
01:51:37,290 --> 01:51:40,310
And a whole lot including my own brother, man

656
01:51:41,290 --> 01:51:46,090
Including my own brother, and I'm vaccinated my own brother who was killed died in a nursing home

657
01:51:46,090 --> 01:51:48,170
One of Cuomo's nursing home

658
01:51:48,710 --> 01:51:50,530
But that's not why I'm here today

659
01:51:50,530 --> 01:51:53,110
All right, well, we're going to, that is not why I'm here today.

660
01:51:53,270 --> 01:51:53,870
Wait, wait, wait a second, no.

661
01:51:55,270 --> 01:51:56,130
Brian, wait a second.

662
01:51:57,230 --> 01:51:58,130
Brian, wait a second.

663
01:51:58,510 --> 01:52:01,330
Now, look, do I have 50 steps away?

664
01:52:01,690 --> 01:52:03,350
Wait, wait, wait, wait, before you start, I have 50 slips.

665
01:52:04,110 --> 01:52:06,550
If you're going to stop it through this, if you're going to interrupt,

666
01:52:06,950 --> 01:52:07,730
everyone who speaks,

667
01:52:11,180 --> 01:52:12,520
I don't know if we can do that.

668
01:52:12,820 --> 01:52:16,040
But listen, when the people up there speak and they have a right to speak,

669
01:52:16,040 --> 01:52:17,400
and we have a right to hear them.

670
01:52:17,760 --> 01:52:20,000
So whatever your comments are about whether you like them,

671
01:52:20,100 --> 01:52:23,120
dislike them or whatever, keep them to yourselves and let that person

672
01:52:23,120 --> 01:52:24,760
speak and have his time for the legislature.

673
01:52:25,180 --> 01:52:26,620
Everybody else have this, aren't.

674
01:52:28,180 --> 01:52:28,740
Thank you, sir.

675
01:52:28,980 --> 01:52:30,120
Why are we here today?

676
01:52:31,220 --> 01:52:35,040
It's the judgment of this legislative body and the directs experience of those of us in

677
01:52:35,040 --> 01:52:39,740
law enforcement that the recent widespread pattern of physical attacks, lawlessness, and

678
01:52:39,740 --> 01:52:44,920
intimidation directed at law enforcement as undermined the several liberties of the

679
01:52:44,920 --> 01:52:46,100
communities at large.

680
01:52:47,540 --> 01:52:50,480
You may recognize some of these things that I took directly from the bill.

681
01:52:50,480 --> 01:52:58,280
This legislature expressly in this bill disavows, and any attempt to excuse or minimize the

682
01:52:58,280 --> 01:53:02,700
gravity of incidents of law enforcement misconduct that have occurred anywhere in this

683
01:53:02,700 --> 01:53:06,820
country, especially those that may have been motivated by racial intolerance.

684
01:53:07,640 --> 01:53:11,180
Law enforcement does, in fact, join in condemning such misconduct.

685
01:53:11,880 --> 01:53:17,480
But those acts of misconduct by law enforcement can never, and any circumstances, justify the

686
01:53:17,480 --> 01:53:23,960
of all law enforcement or any other acts of violence, whatever whatsoever, directed at law

687
01:53:23,960 --> 01:53:27,400
enforcement, including the correction officers that I represent.

688
01:53:28,900 --> 01:53:31,380
Law enforcement is, that's, I guess that's funny.

689
01:53:32,180 --> 01:53:36,360
Law enforcement is essential to protecting the constitutional rights of all citizens to

690
01:53:36,360 --> 01:53:41,260
protest to protect freedom of speech or to protect our citizens from those who would use

691
01:53:41,260 --> 01:53:46,500
threats and violence to silence those with whom they disagree with or to enforce conformity

692
01:53:46,500 --> 01:53:52,300
thought. The civil human and constitutional rights of everyone are jeopardized when law enforcement

693
01:53:52,300 --> 01:53:56,980
is prevented from carrying out their duties, and in particular while protecting the lives

694
01:53:56,980 --> 01:54:03,060
and livelihoods of all people in this country. So what are we talking about? Human rights

695
01:54:04,300 --> 01:54:09,360
and human rights, and it's my turn to speak, sir.

696
01:54:12,330 --> 01:54:17,230
I got all day. I have all day. Human rights

697
01:54:17,230 --> 01:54:24,010
protecting everyone from a lawless behavior. Doesn't law enforcement deserve the same human rights

698
01:54:24,010 --> 01:54:31,310
respect and dignity that everyone they are sworn to protect us. They don't. Okay. And when

699
01:54:31,310 --> 01:54:36,890
that's violated to make them hold in the instances where they are injured at the hands of lawless

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01:54:36,890 --> 01:54:42,290
individuals. I for one do not go to work every day thinking this is the day I'm going to get a salted

701
01:54:42,290 --> 01:54:47,250
bit punch-stabbed, and oh well, that's just part of my job, that's how it works.

702
01:54:48,090 --> 01:54:54,430
Organized violence or individual violence undermines the very foundation of our society and prevents

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01:54:54,430 --> 01:55:01,550
citizens from engaging in peaceful civil protest. As you all know, as everyone on this day

704
01:55:01,550 --> 01:55:07,070
as knows, I have personally led protests here at this very building on numerous occasions going back

705
01:55:07,070 --> 01:55:13,810
years. As a union leader, I do, indeed, review the rights of all Americans to peacefully assemble

706
01:55:13,810 --> 01:55:18,850
as we've done here today for the most part, to air our grievances and freely express

707
01:55:18,850 --> 01:55:23,890
our views. These are the very basis of our constitutional rights that are preserved for

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01:55:23,890 --> 01:55:29,490
all people. Violence directly at those who are sworn to uphold the law will only cause

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01:55:29,490 --> 01:55:35,710
greater lawlessness, undermine our society and harm everyone in the end. Therefore, I firmly

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01:55:35,710 --> 01:55:40,390
support this legislation that will seek to protect the basic human rights of any first

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01:55:40,390 --> 01:55:45,090
responder, making it fundamental that anyone who commits harassment, menacing, assault,

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01:55:45,190 --> 01:55:49,830
or closing injury as defined in the law, to that first responder shall be deemed an

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01:55:49,830 --> 01:55:54,530
unlawful discriminatory practice and they shall be held accountable for those actions.

714
01:55:55,110 --> 01:55:59,470
I commend Legislator Lafazan, Legislator Durrigan Whitten, and all Legislators who sponsored

715
01:55:59,470 --> 01:56:00,290
this bill today.

716
01:56:00,290 --> 01:56:03,330
Thank you.

717
01:56:03,330 --> 01:56:04,850
Thank you, Frank.

718
01:56:04,850 --> 01:56:04,850
Thank you,

719
01:56:12,830 --> 01:56:12,830
Frank.

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01:56:13,690 --> 01:56:16,390
James McDonough, President of the National County PBA.

721
01:56:27,620 --> 01:56:28,500
Good afternoon, everyone.

722
01:56:30,140 --> 01:56:30,960
I'm going to take this war.

723
01:56:31,100 --> 01:56:32,060
I don't know who it is.

724
01:56:34,940 --> 01:56:35,680
It was closed.

725
01:56:36,040 --> 01:56:36,740
It was closed.

726
01:56:37,160 --> 01:56:38,340
And I am the PBA president.

727
01:56:38,500 --> 01:56:40,900
I know that a few people in a backdoor debt

728
01:56:42,260 --> 01:56:43,640
that it wasn't me.

729
01:56:44,340 --> 01:56:46,040
It was a solid, bright, solid, and it was just spoke.

730
01:56:50,220 --> 01:56:51,460
Yes, so county police officers,

731
01:56:51,460 --> 01:56:55,580
but their own health, safety, and well-being on a line every day.

732
01:56:57,790 --> 01:56:58,410
Yes, we did.

733
01:56:58,710 --> 01:56:59,530
We signed up for that.

734
01:57:00,710 --> 01:57:03,990
While facing anti-police sentiment under intense scrutiny,

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01:57:04,310 --> 01:57:05,730
our offices, time and time again,

736
01:57:05,910 --> 01:57:08,890
can talk themselves with the utmost professionalism.

737
01:57:09,490 --> 01:57:11,390
And which has earned them the respect of every community

738
01:57:11,390 --> 01:57:12,650
in NASA County,

739
01:57:14,830 --> 01:57:15,950
particularly first responders

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01:57:15,950 --> 01:57:17,250
during the COVID crisis.

741
01:57:19,390 --> 01:57:21,070
NASA County law enforcement deserves

742
01:57:21,070 --> 01:57:22,870
the support of our elected officials.

743
01:57:23,910 --> 01:57:28,630
and every possible protection to keep them safe throughout the course of their duties.

744
01:57:29,990 --> 01:57:33,330
Any attempt to say otherwise, this respects all who wear the badge.

745
01:57:34,570 --> 01:57:38,510
We applaud the NASA County legislation who continue to stand up for law and order

746
01:57:38,510 --> 01:57:41,370
and support our police during this unprecedented time.

747
01:57:43,580 --> 01:57:46,880
It's important to acknowledge that our members, both in uniform,

748
01:57:46,880 --> 01:57:54,640
Plain clothes, our supervisors, have made NASA County the safest place to live in America.

749
01:57:58,820 --> 01:58:05,600
This did not happen by chance, but by the continued support of government and a public

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01:58:05,600 --> 01:58:06,300
we serve.

751
01:58:06,900 --> 01:58:09,640
I want to thank all of you for your time and your consideration.

752
01:58:11,300 --> 01:58:11,960
Thank you very much.

753
01:58:12,680 --> 01:58:13,760
Look at James,

754
01:58:18,880 --> 01:58:21,660
John Wickhouse, President of the D.A.I.,

755
01:58:30,140 --> 01:58:31,180
but, after known again,

756
01:58:33,280 --> 01:58:34,180
local law enforcement

757
01:58:34,180 --> 01:58:40,160
depends on elected government officials to stand with them now more than ever. The actions

758
01:58:40,160 --> 01:58:45,300
of the dedicated members of the Nesal County Police Department ensure Nesal County remains

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01:58:45,300 --> 01:58:51,920
the safest large county in the United States. Local government has an obligation to protect

760
01:58:51,920 --> 01:58:54,380
those who protect the residents of Nessau County.

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01:58:55,940 --> 01:59:00,620
Even during this time, when it's popular to align oneself with the anti-police culture in

762
01:59:00,620 --> 01:59:06,380
this country, law enforcement officers remain vigilant and ready to respond to anyone

763
01:59:06,380 --> 01:59:08,060
in need without hesitation.

764
01:59:09,360 --> 01:59:14,460
DAI members are in service to the residents of Nessau County and routinely placed themselves

765
01:59:14,460 --> 01:59:17,820
in harm's way to safeguard everyday citizens.

766
01:59:17,820 --> 01:59:26,460
No law enforcement officer should be subjected to verbal abuse, intimidation, threats, or any other

767
01:59:26,460 --> 01:59:32,340
unlawful conduct directed at him or her simply for performing the job they took the

768
01:59:32,340 --> 01:59:34,100
salamoth to do.

769
01:59:34,760 --> 01:59:35,200
Thank you, Dua.

770
01:59:35,340 --> 01:59:39,320
Legislate of Lafazand, Drucker and the Reggie Witton for sponsoring this bill.

771
01:59:39,980 --> 01:59:40,660
Thank you.

772
01:59:48,560 --> 01:59:51,740
Recreciate President of the National County Superior Officers.

773
02:00:04,560 --> 02:00:08,010
Thank you, sir.

774
02:00:08,110 --> 02:00:08,670
Thank you.

775
02:00:12,200 --> 02:00:13,120
Let's start again.

776
02:00:13,220 --> 02:00:13,580
Good afternoon.

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02:00:14,440 --> 02:00:17,360
I'm Rick Assetty, the president of the National County Police Department,

778
02:00:17,560 --> 02:00:18,820
Perry Office Association.

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02:00:19,940 --> 02:00:22,240
I want to thank all of you for taking the time to listen to me,

780
02:00:22,300 --> 02:00:24,180
and I would like to thank you for reinstit,

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02:00:26,000 --> 02:00:27,420
instituting the top cop awards.

782
02:00:28,600 --> 02:00:30,700
Next month, I'll be back with President Winkhouse,

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02:00:30,900 --> 02:00:33,140
and we have an excellent top cop for you.

784
02:00:33,140 --> 02:00:39,140
that will be one, that is one of the most important ones, and

785
02:00:40,400 --> 02:00:43,920
ones that will never forget. It really highlights the things that will

786
02:00:43,920 --> 02:00:48,680
enforce most face every day. With this bill, I'd like to thank legislators

787
02:00:48,680 --> 02:00:52,680
Lafazan, the Reggie Witten, Drunk of Farmbound, a co-sponsoring bill

788
02:00:52,680 --> 02:00:56,680
187-21. I would like to thank the rest of you that support this bill,

789
02:00:57,480 --> 02:01:00,720
especially, I'd just like to thank the bill for putting this bill forward. This bill

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02:01:00,720 --> 02:01:01,760
is truly bipartisan.

791
02:01:02,980 --> 02:01:05,360
I would like to start by explaining who we are.

792
02:01:06,060 --> 02:01:07,620
Who are your first responders?

793
02:01:08,740 --> 02:01:12,060
We are your mothers, your fathers, your brothers, your sisters.

794
02:01:12,620 --> 02:01:13,320
We are your children.

795
02:01:13,960 --> 02:01:15,280
Some of us are even grandparents.

796
02:01:16,240 --> 02:01:17,020
We are your neighbors.

797
02:01:17,560 --> 02:01:18,280
We are your coaches.

798
02:01:18,800 --> 02:01:20,000
We are your religion teachers.

799
02:01:20,560 --> 02:01:21,240
We are black.

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02:01:21,420 --> 02:01:22,080
We are white.

801
02:01:22,280 --> 02:01:23,040
We are Hispanic.

802
02:01:23,660 --> 02:01:24,360
We are gay.

803
02:01:24,580 --> 02:01:25,340
We are straight.

804
02:01:25,680 --> 02:01:26,480
We are Democrats.

805
02:01:27,100 --> 02:01:28,160
We are Republicans.

806
02:01:28,520 --> 02:01:29,740
And we are independents.

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02:01:29,740 --> 02:01:35,160
It is truly a shame that I have to be up here defending a bill that should be non-controversial,

808
02:01:35,640 --> 02:01:36,700
but that's not the case.

809
02:01:37,860 --> 02:01:41,180
National County was recently named the safest county in America.

810
02:01:41,880 --> 02:01:42,940
That was not an accident.

811
02:01:43,520 --> 02:01:46,480
It was because of a hard work of the leadership of this police upon.

812
02:01:47,140 --> 02:01:51,960
It was because of the supervisors, detectives, police officers, and civilian employees alike.

813
02:01:52,560 --> 02:01:56,780
And it was because of you, the National County legislators and the county executives

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02:01:56,780 --> 02:01:58,540
that give us the tool to do our job.

815
02:01:58,540 --> 02:02:01,260
And we thank you for that, and we thank you for your support.

816
02:02:01,960 --> 02:02:03,580
This Peshia was like no other.

817
02:02:04,320 --> 02:02:05,380
COVID hit us hard.

818
02:02:05,900 --> 02:02:08,540
Now, so County was really hit hard, and so, the members

819
02:02:08,540 --> 02:02:10,760
about the police department and members of my union.

820
02:02:12,120 --> 02:02:15,620
We had members that were extremely sick, and we had members that

821
02:02:15,620 --> 02:02:16,340
almost died.

822
02:02:17,020 --> 02:02:20,940
We had members that were forced to retire, and so much still suffering.

823
02:02:22,100 --> 02:02:22,820
Sorry, you are rude.

824
02:02:23,220 --> 02:02:25,300
You want to come up here and speak all in that same word.

825
02:02:25,340 --> 02:02:26,280
You are very rude.

826
02:02:28,400 --> 02:02:33,840
Like the rest of you, and most of the county, we didn't have this opportunity to perfect

827
02:02:33,840 --> 02:02:35,640
Zoom or Microsoft Teams.

828
02:02:36,360 --> 02:02:40,940
We all had to show up day after day wearing masks and gloves like we always do.

829
02:02:41,700 --> 02:02:47,800
Unfortunately, some of us got sick and brought her home to our loved ones, but we answered

830
02:02:47,800 --> 02:02:49,160
all the 911 calls.

831
02:02:49,900 --> 02:02:52,100
We never asked what the race the caller was.

832
02:02:52,100 --> 02:02:56,740
We never asked what color the caller was, because this does not matter to us and makes no

833
02:02:56,740 --> 02:02:58,380
difference to any of us.

834
02:02:58,900 --> 02:03:03,320
It was nice for a while that first response is a law enforcement was spoken about highly

835
02:03:03,320 --> 02:03:06,860
and we even put on a pedestal for a while, just like after 9-11.

836
02:03:07,640 --> 02:03:08,900
That didn't last for long.

837
02:03:09,520 --> 02:03:14,060
This past year we had countless protests in this county, many were against law enforcement.

838
02:03:15,060 --> 02:03:17,160
But we do what we are trying to do.

839
02:03:17,160 --> 02:03:22,620
We act professionally, and we preserve the peace and the right to protest peacefully.

840
02:03:23,540 --> 02:03:30,140
Many times the protest is what's screaming in our faces, inches away from us, and our

841
02:03:30,140 --> 02:03:32,860
officers and supervisors did what they were trying to do.

842
02:03:33,240 --> 02:03:35,420
They stood there and they let the people protest.

843
02:03:36,500 --> 02:03:41,500
You try being screamed at what the person and each from your face, especially during COVID.

844
02:03:42,400 --> 02:03:51,920
This bill really just highlights the protections we already have that I, that all of you voted on a couple of years ago, and it passed 90 to zero.

845
02:03:53,460 --> 02:03:55,780
And they all voted for it, every one of you.

846
02:03:56,200 --> 02:04:02,580
Unlike those that suggest otherwise, this law does not create a different or an easiest stand for discrimination or harassment.

847
02:04:03,140 --> 02:04:06,780
Rather, it uses definitions already contained in the law.

848
02:04:07,380 --> 02:04:13,660
The bill is important because we see day after day law enforcement officers and first respond is being targeted.

849
02:04:14,300 --> 02:04:19,740
Not because they are white or black or straight or gay, but only because they wear a uniform.

850
02:04:20,600 --> 02:04:26,600
One of the most important functions of government is to protect its citizens and we are your citizens.

851
02:04:27,660 --> 02:04:33,820
We shouldn't be discriminated upon or targeted because of our profession or because of the uniform we wear.

852
02:04:34,560 --> 02:04:38,820
But now it might not be politically correct and some of you waver.

853
02:04:39,840 --> 02:04:43,260
I hope you think about your vote and you vote for what you believe in.

854
02:04:43,560 --> 02:04:48,740
Not because you feel pressured by the loudest voices in this room or the few that are here,

855
02:04:49,000 --> 02:04:53,180
that are noisy and that seek publicity or notoriety.

856
02:04:53,680 --> 02:04:55,000
I personally seek neither.

857
02:04:56,640 --> 02:05:01,480
We need to protect those that protect the community and we need to make this the safest county in America.

858
02:05:01,480 --> 02:05:03,880
Thank you, and have a good summer.

859
02:05:09,360 --> 02:05:10,460
Thank you, Rick.

860
02:05:14,120 --> 02:05:15,880
Assemblyman Chuck Leveen.

861
02:05:33,760 --> 02:05:36,740
I want to thank, uh, presiding officer, Nikolello,

862
02:05:37,940 --> 02:05:42,960
and minority leader Abraham, and the members of this legislature

863
02:05:42,960 --> 02:05:46,520
for allowing me the opportunity to speak.

864
02:05:47,160 --> 02:05:51,260
Briefly, I'm going to leave copies of my remarks for the record

865
02:05:51,260 --> 02:05:52,920
right here.

866
02:05:52,920 --> 02:06:04,300
So I'm not here just as the head of the Nassau County delegation in the state assembly.

867
02:06:05,440 --> 02:06:13,880
I am here more significantly because I am an American citizen and I am a citizen of Nassau County.

868
02:06:14,020 --> 02:06:18,640
I am as well a proud member of the NWACP.

869
02:06:18,640 --> 02:06:26,820
I urge, I'm going to ask, I'm going to ask, I want to say something, off, this is not part of my remarks.

870
02:06:27,360 --> 02:06:32,340
As Tom McKevatt knows, this is probably pretty tame compared to what we're used to in the New York State Assembly.

871
02:06:32,720 --> 02:06:41,080
But I'm going to ask people to listen, listen to what everyone has to say, whether we like it or you don't like it.

872
02:06:41,340 --> 02:06:46,500
When we lose civility, we will have lost everything in this nation.

873
02:06:46,500 --> 02:06:49,180
And we are all battling, please, no applause.

874
02:06:50,260 --> 02:06:52,360
So I urge, now I'm going back on script.

875
02:06:52,900 --> 02:06:57,920
I urge the legislature to lay Bill 187-21,

876
02:06:58,600 --> 02:07:03,020
quote, upon the table, unquote, as is provided for by

877
02:07:03,020 --> 02:07:05,920
Roberts rules, order, and Mason's manual,

878
02:07:07,020 --> 02:07:10,520
legislative procedure, and all other parliamentary rules.

879
02:07:10,520 --> 02:07:20,520
I think this bill requires further analytic consideration, and it's debate demands much more

880
02:07:20,520 --> 02:07:24,880
public involvement, as far as constitutional concern.

881
02:07:25,620 --> 02:07:32,000
The bill may very well inhibit the free speech provisions of not only our federal, but

882
02:07:32,000 --> 02:07:34,340
our state constitution as well.

883
02:07:34,340 --> 02:07:44,300
NASA residents, we, NASA residents are really fortunate to live in one of our nation's safest communities.

884
02:07:45,120 --> 02:08:04,320
Communication between our citizens and our law enforcement professionals is just one factor contributing to that

885
02:08:04,320 --> 02:08:10,140
enhancing that communication, after all, we are all in this together.

886
02:08:11,140 --> 02:08:12,760
I am deeply troubled

887
02:08:14,940 --> 02:08:19,900
that this bill is hurtful to friends and neighbors,

888
02:08:22,200 --> 02:08:23,420
so very many

889
02:08:23,420 --> 02:08:32,320
of our friends and neighbors who have paid a monumental price in suffering in our uniquely

890
02:08:32,320 --> 02:08:38,500
American struggle for equality, dignity, justice, and human rights.

891
02:08:39,360 --> 02:08:40,240
Our goal,

892
02:08:42,950 --> 02:08:50,410
thank you, our goal as legislators, must be to build bridges, bridges to

893
02:08:50,410 --> 02:08:56,430
be crossed by all of our citizens, not to construct painful barriers.

894
02:08:57,290 --> 02:09:00,950
I learned of this bill late on the evening of July 27.

895
02:09:00,950 --> 02:09:12,030
multiple thousands of NASA citizens who will be affected remain unaware that the legislature may adopt its provisions today.

896
02:09:13,030 --> 02:09:27,210
I respectfully urge this legislature to delay the vote and host more extensive public forums so that we may all benefit from the voices and the views of all our people.

897
02:09:27,710 --> 02:09:37,330
Again, I thank you for what you do, it's never easy, and I thank you for the opportunity to speak today and for your consideration, respecting this matter.

898
02:09:37,930 --> 02:09:38,650
Thank you all.

899
02:09:55,880 --> 02:09:57,400
Thank you, Assemblyman Levine.

900
02:09:58,240 --> 02:10:00,420
We have Mayor Hobbes from the Village of Hempster.

901
02:10:09,110 --> 02:10:11,650
Clearly, I am not Mayor Hobbes from the Village of Hempster.

902
02:10:12,410 --> 02:10:22,070
I am the assistant to Mayor Hobbes in the incorporated village of Hempster.

903
02:10:22,070 --> 02:10:28,710
also serve as the proud pastor of the Union Baptist Church in the village of himstead as well.

904
02:10:30,930 --> 02:10:33,490
Today I stand before you,

905
02:10:35,630 --> 02:10:46,440
insulted and in disbelief by this racist and insensitive and disrespectful

906
02:10:46,440 --> 02:10:48,140
bill,

907
02:10:51,350 --> 02:10:53,570
clearly, clearly,

908
02:10:55,590 --> 02:10:58,870
many of you don't understand systemic racism in America.

909
02:11:09,250 --> 02:11:20,290
It is funny to me how you see harassment, assault, verbal abuse, witness to watch police.

910
02:11:23,960 --> 02:11:30,020
But become conveniently blind when it's directed at black and brown people all across

911
02:11:39,440 --> 02:11:45,900
And this day has profoundly confused me.

912
02:11:46,420 --> 02:11:47,500
I'm from Virginia,

913
02:11:50,020 --> 02:11:51,620
the Commonwealth of Virginia.

914
02:11:53,360 --> 02:11:59,180
But today I thought for a moment I was in the deep south of Alabama or Mississippi.

915
02:12:03,240 --> 02:12:04,800
This bill gives us the picture.

916
02:12:06,260 --> 02:12:09,720
Josh of the days of Bull Connor, you need to read about him.

917
02:12:13,400 --> 02:12:15,500
Why would someone elect it?

918
02:12:15,500 --> 02:12:23,000
by the people, even think, Josh, this is all right,

919
02:12:25,610 --> 02:12:27,290
yes we need first responders,

920
02:12:28,710 --> 02:12:34,670
absolutely we need police officers, absolutely we want to live in a civil society,

921
02:12:35,970 --> 02:12:45,610
but we also want laws that are fair, not just to those who look like many of you, but those who

922
02:12:45,610 --> 02:12:46,930
also look like me,

923
02:12:52,930 --> 02:13:01,930
how many years black and brown people have been assaulted and harassed

924
02:13:01,930 --> 02:13:10,530
and verbally abused even by police officers in this county and in this nation.

925
02:13:12,250 --> 02:13:15,770
And there hasn't been any legislation by you, Josh,

926
02:13:18,320 --> 02:13:21,800
to protect us, how insensitive this

927
02:13:24,100 --> 02:13:31,180
in the home incisitive this is on the backs of the Black Lives Matter movement. And even

928
02:13:31,180 --> 02:13:36,800
all today where we are in the midst of a pandemic where we're in a mask even here today

929
02:13:36,800 --> 02:13:38,680
has become a black and white issue.

930
02:13:41,760 --> 02:13:46,420
And lastly, Josh, you don't seem to be paying attention

931
02:13:46,420 --> 02:13:50,320
today. Last time, the last time we were together,

932
02:13:52,380 --> 02:13:54,520
you shook my hand, wanted me to come for

933
02:13:54,520 --> 02:13:55,740
support, and I came.

934
02:13:58,730 --> 02:14:01,330
Your young man, I thought you had a bright future.

935
02:14:04,060 --> 02:14:04,820
You might be politically

936
02:14:04,820 --> 02:14:06,140
dead after today.

937
02:14:18,350 --> 02:14:21,330
Go, because I got to pick up my little black and brown children. But

938
02:14:21,330 --> 02:14:23,150
listen, I want to share with you,

939
02:14:26,720 --> 02:14:31,540
good with you when you champion, naming a building after

940
02:14:31,540 --> 02:14:39,720
the Shirley Chism, and now you champion a bill against everything that Shirley Chism stood

941
02:14:39,720 --> 02:14:40,380
for.

942
02:14:47,010 --> 02:14:53,510
It makes no sense. I've been pastoring all the 20s some years. Josh, I can tell you,

943
02:14:53,850 --> 02:14:55,930
I know sheep in wolves' clothes.

944
02:15:07,770 --> 02:15:09,970
Defend, depend Maj. Jeff D Angels.

945
02:15:11,030 --> 02:15:12,890
Defend, depend, depend Maj. Jeff D Angels.

946
02:15:14,250 --> 02:15:18,230
Hey, listen, guys. If it keeps up, I'm going to clear the room.

947
02:15:18,390 --> 02:15:20,110
We're going to bring one speaker in, at this time.

948
02:15:20,750 --> 02:15:22,050
If you don't want that to happen,

949
02:15:22,750 --> 02:15:24,570
then just settle down. Let's listen to the speakers.

950
02:15:25,210 --> 02:15:26,290
Let's stop the name call.

951
02:15:27,790 --> 02:15:30,530
Jeff D Angels, the depend, depend, depend, depend, depend, depend.

952
02:15:30,530 --> 02:15:30,730
Okay.

953
02:15:33,760 --> 02:15:36,260
Tracy Edwards, end of the list, he if you take

954
02:15:57,500 --> 02:15:59,180
it.

955
02:16:11,690 --> 02:16:15,150
Sorry for taking a moment.

956
02:16:16,670 --> 02:16:23,230
So I am here today with our New York State President, Hazel Lendukes, who is seated in

957
02:16:23,230 --> 02:16:25,490
the back, and also

958
02:16:27,670 --> 02:16:33,510
all of the National County presidents.

959
02:16:34,190 --> 02:16:38,710
My name is Tracy Edwards, and I am the Long Island Regional Director of the NAACP.

960
02:16:38,710 --> 02:16:50,250
But before I give you my remarks, I would like you to hear legislator Joshua Lafazans remarks last year.

961
02:16:51,170 --> 02:16:58,150
Because you will see that we need to know today, which legislator aren't.

962
02:16:58,410 --> 02:17:07,770
Are you the legislator who wrote that draft that contradicted both county executive current and police commissioner,

963
02:17:07,770 --> 02:17:16,190
writer who praise the protesters in Nassau County, or are you this legislator here who

964
02:17:16,190 --> 02:17:22,870
talked about the systemic racism in Nassau County and how your ancestors Josh, look

965
02:17:22,870 --> 02:17:31,650
at me, Josh, your ancestors, Josh, who stood with African Americans as they fought for

966
02:17:31,650 --> 02:17:35,910
voting right, which legislator are you.

967
02:17:50,150 --> 02:17:51,350
How are you doing today?

968
02:17:51,510 --> 02:17:52,770
I'm doing well. Thanks for having me on the show.

969
02:17:53,330 --> 02:17:53,650
Oh, absolutely.

970
02:17:54,230 --> 02:17:57,670
Let them know what legislative district you represent.

971
02:17:57,810 --> 02:18:00,970
There's 19 legislators in National County.

972
02:18:01,490 --> 02:18:04,770
It used to be supervisors and then they went into the form

973
02:18:04,770 --> 02:18:10,050
of legislators, what, what, again, district you represent them.

974
02:18:10,050 --> 02:18:12,630
What would you like to say about the national theme?

975
02:18:12,950 --> 02:18:15,310
And of course, what happened to George Floyd,

976
02:18:15,430 --> 02:18:16,590
what's his name?

977
02:18:17,050 --> 02:18:19,410
George Floyd has the crowd calls out.

978
02:18:19,410 --> 02:18:20,570
What do you want to say?

979
02:18:20,850 --> 02:18:21,030
Sure.

980
02:18:21,190 --> 02:18:22,650
So again, my name is Josh Lathazen.

981
02:18:22,810 --> 02:18:25,770
I have the privilege of representing District 18 in the legislature.

982
02:18:26,390 --> 02:18:29,990
So I asked it, West to rise on north of the Davials, the Northeast National County.

983
02:18:30,610 --> 02:18:34,950
What I want to say first and foremost is, of course, I condemn the horrific killing of George Floyd.

984
02:18:35,290 --> 02:18:38,310
And those who came before him, but as I said in the video, I posted on Facebook.

985
02:18:38,610 --> 02:18:40,670
It's not enough just to condemn.

986
02:18:41,130 --> 02:18:45,450
We must take action to make sure that we put safeguards in the place, so that what happened to George Floyd

987
02:18:45,450 --> 02:18:47,350
knows before him never happens again.

988
02:18:47,350 --> 02:18:56,430
But I'm working on hearing an asshole county, one of the most segregated counties in the nation, is that in order to fix a problem, we have to acknowledge and exist in the first place.

989
02:18:56,990 --> 02:19:07,530
So I'm looking to gather a coalition, and especially young people, where the largest, most diverse generation in the history of this country, and that's why young people is so great to see them on the front lines of this movement.

990
02:19:07,530 --> 02:19:13,110
But we have to understand that National County has a dark past with systemic racism and injustice.

991
02:19:13,630 --> 02:19:19,010
About how Robert Moses built bridges solo, so Black residents couldn't go to our beaches.

992
02:19:19,790 --> 02:19:24,230
About how many of our grandparents came back from the war and moved to suburbs like Leviton,

993
02:19:24,830 --> 02:19:29,030
backed by low interest federal loans that weren't available to Black Americans.

994
02:19:29,290 --> 02:19:31,370
Many of whom just fought in that very same war.

995
02:19:31,890 --> 02:19:35,130
We have issues here in terms of segregation in terms of unequal school funding.

996
02:19:35,130 --> 02:19:38,030
where you have a school like Hemstead, majority of black and Latino,

997
02:19:38,610 --> 02:19:42,130
with an average student spending per pupil of about 22,000.

998
02:19:42,550 --> 02:19:44,430
You move one block over to Garden City,

999
02:19:44,770 --> 02:19:48,670
77% white, and they spend $7,500 more per pupil.

1000
02:19:49,050 --> 02:19:49,870
These are facts.

1001
02:19:50,250 --> 02:19:52,970
So what I'm working on is we have to get these facts out to the people,

1002
02:19:53,230 --> 02:19:54,990
and we have to move to level the playing field.

1003
02:19:55,490 --> 02:19:58,250
If we don't have a level playing field, we have what we have now,

1004
02:19:58,450 --> 02:19:59,110
which is privileged.

1005
02:19:59,830 --> 02:20:02,190
So I'm working on bringing out folks in white communities

1006
02:20:02,190 --> 02:20:04,730
to recognize it acknowledge that white privilege is real.

1007
02:20:04,730 --> 02:20:06,330
It is real.

1008
02:20:06,890 --> 02:20:08,910
We have to get to an equal playing field.

1009
02:20:09,570 --> 02:20:12,030
That, to me, is egalitarianism and is finest.

1010
02:20:12,630 --> 02:20:16,590
When anybody born in any zip code in this country can make it

1011
02:20:16,590 --> 02:20:17,250
you can make it here.

1012
02:20:17,630 --> 02:20:19,290
That is American and nutshell.

1013
02:20:20,050 --> 02:20:23,310
And as the son, sorry, is the grandson of a Holocaust refugee.

1014
02:20:23,890 --> 02:20:26,030
My grandfather always told me how the Jewish community

1015
02:20:26,030 --> 02:20:27,210
stood with the Black community.

1016
02:20:28,170 --> 02:20:31,310
Rabbi Abraham Joshua Heschel marched with Dr. King.

1017
02:20:32,490 --> 02:20:37,390
Mickey Schwerner and the freedom that they were killed and the stuff for registering black voters to folk

1018
02:20:37,390 --> 02:20:41,630
The heroism of these people that Jewish communities do with the black community time and time again

1019
02:20:41,630 --> 02:20:47,550
I knew it will continue and I know that my future children are going to ask me what we did during this moment James always says

1020
02:20:47,550 --> 02:20:51,990
What are you going to tell your kids and what are you going to tell folks in a few years and what you did during this moment?

1021
02:20:52,850 --> 02:20:56,030
I'm not going to tell my son on the sidelines and I hope you don't either

1022
02:20:56,030 --> 02:20:57,330
I'm proud to be a friend of James

1023
02:20:57,330 --> 02:21:00,030
I'm proud to have a mentor and coach me during this moment

1024
02:21:06,300 --> 02:21:21,780
So I ask you today, Josh, when you called me to come stand with you because of the Asian hate that was going through your community.

1025
02:21:21,780 --> 02:21:31,100
Those individuals were targeted and what you are doing with this bill is you are taking a profession

1026
02:21:31,100 --> 02:21:42,980
and you are putting that chosen profession above all of those people who fought during the civil rights movement in 1964.

1027
02:21:42,980 --> 02:21:53,200
You are putting a profession above those through the Edmund Pettis Bridge, Stonewall, women's rights.

1028
02:21:53,740 --> 02:22:01,080
All of us have to prove discrimination. You are disrespecting all of us. Do you understand me?

1029
02:22:01,240 --> 02:22:12,820
You are disrespecting all of us. And I will say, he has because of a political campaign.

1030
02:22:12,820 --> 02:22:24,580
He has lost his way, but I am asking all of you not to do that, and as an example, today we went through back and forth about the mass, okay?

1031
02:22:25,280 --> 02:22:37,720
There are gross re-workers in Nassaure County that are targeted and harassed and menace, because they are asking people to wear a mask. What about them?

1032
02:22:37,720 --> 02:22:40,540
Are you going to put them in the bill as well?

1033
02:22:40,900 --> 02:22:46,060
What about all the young people who we have encouraged to come and peaceful protest?

1034
02:22:46,460 --> 02:22:53,560
And if someone wants to target them, we are going to then rack them up with judgments and fines.

1035
02:22:54,140 --> 02:22:56,220
Is that the new way of Nassau County?

1036
02:22:57,020 --> 02:22:59,800
You should be ashamed of yourself, Legislator Drucker.

1037
02:23:00,180 --> 02:23:01,420
A shame of yourself.

1038
02:23:04,730 --> 02:23:06,050
A shame of yourself.

1039
02:23:06,690 --> 02:23:08,610
This cannot be the Nassau County.

1040
02:23:08,610 --> 02:23:10,530
This cannot be.

1041
02:23:10,770 --> 02:23:14,330
You're happy that CNN contacted me today.

1042
02:23:14,490 --> 02:23:16,550
You wanted to have the national attention.

1043
02:23:16,870 --> 02:23:19,130
This is what you want it to be.

1044
02:23:19,270 --> 02:23:23,270
The NAACP will stand strong against any of you.

1045
02:23:23,410 --> 02:23:24,870
Any of you.

1046
02:23:30,260 --> 02:23:31,040
Any of you.

1047
02:23:31,060 --> 02:23:32,240
Any of you.

1048
02:23:32,280 --> 02:23:33,460
We have died.

1049
02:23:33,860 --> 02:23:36,640
We have died for the civil rights movement.

1050
02:23:36,880 --> 02:23:37,880
We say enough.

1051
02:23:38,520 --> 02:23:40,080
Our state president is here.

1052
02:23:40,080 --> 02:23:43,620
She came from vacation to, she lived in that sort of county.

1053
02:23:44,060 --> 02:23:45,540
She knows all of you.

1054
02:23:45,820 --> 02:23:46,900
Enough of this, Josh.

1055
02:23:47,360 --> 02:23:51,240
Wanna fair campaign and lose our win on your merit?

1056
02:23:52,380 --> 02:23:52,660
Okay?

1057
02:23:53,860 --> 02:23:55,740
You lose, oh, we're don't cry now.

1058
02:23:55,900 --> 02:23:56,520
Don't cry.

1059
02:23:56,720 --> 02:23:57,740
You stand up.

1060
02:23:57,980 --> 02:24:00,460
You stand up and you do what's right.

1061
02:24:00,680 --> 02:24:02,500
Don't be a hypocrite, okay?

1062
02:24:02,720 --> 02:24:04,500
That's what you are being a hypocrite.

1063
02:24:04,700 --> 02:24:09,120
And you are dragging all of your colleagues into this

1064
02:24:09,120 --> 02:24:13,300
because of your political cowardness.

1065
02:24:13,520 --> 02:24:14,780
Shame on you.

1066
02:24:15,520 --> 02:24:16,360
Shame on you.

1067
02:24:17,320 --> 02:24:18,940
Shame on you.

1068
02:24:18,940 --> 02:24:20,100
Shame on you.

1069
02:24:26,980 --> 02:24:27,840
Leslie Davis.

1070
02:24:28,780 --> 02:24:29,980
And I'm lazy, please.

1071
02:24:31,160 --> 02:24:32,360
Good afternoon, all.

1072
02:24:32,760 --> 02:24:35,960
I was going to heal my time, but I guess my time is up.

1073
02:24:36,020 --> 02:24:37,180
Thank you.

1074
02:24:38,890 --> 02:24:39,710
I'll think about that.

1075
02:24:50,000 --> 02:24:54,380
Police officers, if they are harassed,

1076
02:24:54,800 --> 02:25:00,500
Like one of the PBA presidents said, they can arrest people.

1077
02:25:02,920 --> 02:25:04,160
They can use the law.

1078
02:25:07,130 --> 02:25:09,690
That's why we have legislation.

1079
02:25:12,840 --> 02:25:17,680
We have wonderful police officers who can protect themselves.

1080
02:25:21,430 --> 02:25:26,210
They do not need to have a human rights law

1081
02:25:26,210 --> 02:25:29,510
to put them above all others.

1082
02:25:30,410 --> 02:25:31,890
And that's what you are doing.

1083
02:25:31,890 --> 02:25:37,510
You are taking that chosen sacred profession.

1084
02:25:38,830 --> 02:25:44,010
And you are trying to put it above all others,

1085
02:25:44,510 --> 02:25:48,570
because he has a tough campaign.

1086
02:25:50,070 --> 02:25:51,530
That's what this is about.

1087
02:25:52,690 --> 02:25:55,130
This is not about anything else.

1088
02:25:55,570 --> 02:25:59,930
Read what he wrote in his bill

1089
02:25:59,930 --> 02:26:12,770
And then listen to his words and the words of the county executive and the police commissioner who praised the protesters.

1090
02:26:13,790 --> 02:26:18,430
What problem are you trying to solve in Nassau County?

1091
02:26:21,990 --> 02:26:29,470
Because what I heard the PBA say is about what went on nationally.

1092
02:26:29,470 --> 02:26:40,310
They did not bring up an incident in Nassau County, not one, not one, so presiding

1093
02:26:40,310 --> 02:26:40,890
officer.

1094
02:26:42,070 --> 02:26:50,450
Don't have this, the legacy of Nassau County because Josh has lost his way.

1095
02:26:50,930 --> 02:26:57,750
He has lost the respect of our communities for evermore.

1096
02:26:57,750 --> 02:27:08,090
But all of you have not, please consider this seriously, whether you are Republican, whether

1097
02:27:08,090 --> 02:27:14,790
you are Democrat, especially there have they are women on this stage.

1098
02:27:15,530 --> 02:27:22,970
And if any of you have feel that you are discriminated against because of all the wonderful

1099
02:27:22,970 --> 02:27:33,370
women that stood before you. You have to prove it. This bill says you don't have to. So disregard

1100
02:27:33,370 --> 02:27:41,850
legislative lafisan. I don't know what he's thinking about. I'm talking to all of you.

1101
02:27:42,310 --> 02:27:45,650
Please don't lose your way. Thank you.

1102
02:27:58,810 --> 02:28:00,010
David Kilnick.

1103
02:28:16,150 --> 02:28:19,390
Well, good afternoon. Good afternoon.

1104
02:28:19,390 --> 02:28:21,110
And can I, is on yet?

1105
02:28:22,350 --> 02:28:27,450
My name is David Kilnick, I'm President and CEO of the LGBT Network, and I'm proud to stand

1106
02:28:27,450 --> 02:28:33,070
here today with all my brothers and sisters from every single group that is truly discriminated

1107
02:28:33,070 --> 02:28:33,470
against.

1108
02:28:33,570 --> 02:28:37,970
As we stand together here in the majority to say no to this bill,

1109
02:28:45,760 --> 02:28:47,100
I think I could be any more

1110
02:28:47,100 --> 02:28:52,980
infuriated before coming here today, but that just went out, went out the door when the

1111
02:28:52,980 --> 02:28:55,840
first few speakers came on to talk about this bill.

1112
02:28:55,840 --> 02:29:10,880
But let's do a little bit of discrimination one-o-one here, right, because this bill says that we are going to, when you will, amend the human rights law to include police officers to be protected from discrimination.

1113
02:29:11,480 --> 02:29:24,860
So discrimination one-o-one, the New York State Human Rights Law protects characteristics, including race, age, race, creed, color, national origin, sexual orientation, gender identity or expression,

1114
02:29:24,860 --> 02:29:31,080
military status, sex, pregnancy, physical or mental disability, predisposed in genetic characteristics,

1115
02:29:31,940 --> 02:29:36,640
familial status, marital status, status as a victim of domestic violence and arrest records and criminal

1116
02:29:36,640 --> 02:29:37,200
convictions.

1117
02:29:37,860 --> 02:29:41,060
There is no profession that is included in there.

1118
02:29:41,320 --> 02:29:44,640
This would be a violation of the New York State Human Rights Law.

1119
02:29:44,960 --> 02:29:49,180
And I don't know what attorney you have advising you, but I would suggest you fire them right

1120
02:29:49,180 --> 02:29:49,500
away.

1121
02:29:55,330 --> 02:29:59,970
Now, let me talk about what this is and what this is not.

1122
02:30:00,460 --> 02:30:09,480
The issue is simple here. The issue in front of you today is simply about human rights and discrimination laws. Yes, it's a lot more.

1123
02:30:09,960 --> 02:30:15,500
But you are looking at a bill that is simply about human rights and discrimination laws.

1124
02:30:16,000 --> 02:30:23,280
It's not whether you support the police or not. You can actually be pro-police and against this bill, which you

1125
02:30:29,590 --> 02:30:33,830
can be pro-police and against this bill, which makes a mockery of human rights,

1126
02:30:33,830 --> 02:30:40,150
And the discrimination that tens of thousands of National County people and families face each day.

1127
02:30:40,930 --> 02:30:48,910
Human rights and discrimination laws exist to protect those who are historically marginalized and oppressed in our society.

1128
02:30:49,770 --> 02:30:57,970
No profession, no profession in and of itself would or should fit into these laws.

1129
02:30:57,970 --> 02:31:12,210
And what this amounts to is a slap in the face to all of us who have to face discrimination day-in or threats of discrimination day-in and day-out are entire lives.

1130
02:31:12,350 --> 02:31:22,070
It's a slap in the face to all people of color. It's a slap in the face to LGBTQ folks. It's a slap in the face to women. It's a slap in the face to disabled in other groups.

1131
02:31:22,070 --> 02:31:25,750
You know, the questions that, you know, I want to go back to the first detective that's

1132
02:31:25,750 --> 02:31:26,870
focused, detective Sullivan.

1133
02:31:27,330 --> 02:31:32,490
He said that when he doesn't have to think, every day, he doesn't have to think about

1134
02:31:32,490 --> 02:31:33,270
being attacked.

1135
02:31:33,670 --> 02:31:34,890
Well, let me tell you, I do.

1136
02:31:35,590 --> 02:31:36,210
I do.

1137
02:31:40,840 --> 02:31:48,020
And just a week ago, I had Suffolk County detectives over my house because I received anonymous

1138
02:31:48,020 --> 02:31:53,780
letters that were threatening to kill me, put a gun in my back, put a knife in my back, and

1139
02:31:53,780 --> 02:31:54,600
eliminate me.

1140
02:31:54,600 --> 02:31:58,860
You tell me that police officers are receiving those letters at home.

1141
02:31:59,200 --> 02:31:59,980
They are not.

1142
02:32:00,120 --> 02:32:01,920
It is not a protected class.

1143
02:32:02,420 --> 02:32:06,360
Other folks are thinking, am I going to lose my job or even get an interview because of

1144
02:32:06,360 --> 02:32:07,300
the color of my skin?

1145
02:32:07,640 --> 02:32:10,100
Am I going to be beaten or murdered because I'm transgender?

1146
02:32:10,800 --> 02:32:15,880
Can I walk down the street safely because I may not be holding hands with someone

1147
02:32:15,880 --> 02:32:17,220
of the same gender?

1148
02:32:18,260 --> 02:32:21,480
Those, that's the real threat that exists in our society.

1149
02:32:21,480 --> 02:32:31,940
The threat of police officers being attacked just because their police officers is a bunch of nonsense and you know that.

1150
02:32:32,120 --> 02:32:33,160
You know that.

1151
02:32:38,730 --> 02:32:42,930
There is absolutely no data to support this bill.

1152
02:32:43,610 --> 02:32:51,090
Now, one ounce, zilch, not a of data that shows police officers as a profession in and of itself is discriminated against.

1153
02:32:51,670 --> 02:32:56,390
However, there is plenty of data which shows that there are police officers who are discriminated

1154
02:32:56,390 --> 02:33:00,950
against, that is, if they are black, LGBTQ or women,

1155
02:33:07,320 --> 02:33:08,660
which brings me to the original

1156
02:33:08,660 --> 02:33:13,260
point that this bill fails in its merits substance and is not only morally wrong and dangerous,

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but also constitutionally wrong.

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I just have one final note here, and this goes to every single person sitting on this

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day and sub here.

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02:33:20,500 --> 02:33:28,440
This legislative body, you, as the Nassau County Legislature, have failed for over a dozen years

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02:33:28,440 --> 02:33:35,820
to add the transgender community as a protected class under the Nassau County Human Rights Law.

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02:33:36,460 --> 02:33:42,500
Over a dozen years, you had a 90-year-old woman who came down here, transgender women, who came down here,

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02:33:42,500 --> 02:33:49,680
deleted, pleaded with you to add transgender community under the human rights law.

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02:33:50,080 --> 02:33:56,080
How dare you sit here today, Josh, Arnie, and the other sponsors, who I know very well,

1165
02:33:56,700 --> 02:33:59,020
and all of you, because you all didn't do this.

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02:33:59,380 --> 02:34:04,440
How dare you sit here today and tell of all of NASA's transgender community that a profession

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02:34:04,440 --> 02:34:08,000
is more worthy of protection than their lives.

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02:34:08,000 --> 02:34:09,120
How

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02:34:13,660 --> 02:34:20,580
dare you tell the transgender community who are gunned down and murdered because of their gender

1170
02:34:20,580 --> 02:34:27,540
identity that they are not worthy of protection, yet those who carry a gun are. Think about that.

1171
02:34:28,740 --> 02:34:34,960
Transgender folks are gunned down each and every day, and you're here to protect a class of folks that carry a gun.

1172
02:34:34,960 --> 02:34:36,980
That is obscene.

1173
02:34:37,140 --> 02:34:38,700
It is disgusting and shameful.

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Do the right thing.

1175
02:34:40,620 --> 02:34:43,000
Vote no on this bogus pill that is flawed in every way.

1176
02:34:43,620 --> 02:34:46,860
And while you're in the mood to look at human rights and discrimination,

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02:34:47,680 --> 02:34:53,300
add gender identity and expression into the Natsua County Human Rights Law once and for all.

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02:35:11,490 --> 02:35:12,710
Daniel Oppenheimer.

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02:35:20,810 --> 02:35:22,290
My name is Dan Oppenheimer.

1180
02:35:22,470 --> 02:35:24,510
I'm a resident of the village of Hampstead.

1181
02:35:26,090 --> 02:35:33,830
Local law 187 is unlikely to be allowed under the United States Constitution, because it

1182
02:35:33,830 --> 02:35:39,310
violates Fifth Amendment protections regarding taking a property without due process

1183
02:35:39,310 --> 02:35:46,930
of law, and the Eighth Amendment regarding excessive fines, and the New York State Constitution.

1184
02:35:47,730 --> 02:35:52,750
If it has the effect of preventing peaceful demonstrations, such as the one that took place

1185
02:35:52,750 --> 02:35:58,610
in front of this building on June 1, 2020, which I was at.

1186
02:35:59,450 --> 02:36:02,310
That demonstration had upwards of 1,000 people,

1187
02:36:02,590 --> 02:36:06,750
and was a good example of peaceful and necessary protest.

1188
02:36:07,770 --> 02:36:10,890
This law is a solution in search of a problem

1189
02:36:10,890 --> 02:36:13,790
that does not exist in NASA County when

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02:36:18,490 --> 02:36:18,950
police

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02:36:18,950 --> 02:36:21,090
are targeted in any way.

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02:36:21,570 --> 02:36:23,810
They have legal and physical protections

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02:36:23,810 --> 02:36:28,070
that are all too often not equally available to the public.

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02:36:29,530 --> 02:36:32,170
Being a first responder is a hazardous job.

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02:36:32,770 --> 02:36:39,070
I appreciate what the detectives described in ending that situation

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02:36:39,070 --> 02:36:41,930
without a fatality, without themselves being shot,

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02:36:41,990 --> 02:36:45,110
or without the emotionally disturbed person being shot.

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02:36:45,190 --> 02:36:46,730
That is a real situation.

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Partially because of this officers have a unique status granting qualified immunity, which prevents

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02:36:54,750 --> 02:36:59,910
them from being held accountable at trial for actions that injure and violate the civil

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02:36:59,910 --> 02:37:08,170
rights of citizens in some cases, according to a story published in Forbes on April 29, 2021.

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02:37:08,910 --> 02:37:14,990
NYPD officers were granted qualified immunity in around 100 cases over the past three years.

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02:37:14,990 --> 02:37:27,770
An individual who attacks a police officer or injures them when the officer is lawfully carrying out their duty is rightfully subject to arrest and criminal prosecution for felonies and misdemeanors.

1204
02:37:28,470 --> 02:37:32,190
When police do the same thing, they may evade prosecution.

1205
02:37:33,210 --> 02:37:40,950
The only qualified immunity for everyone is the equal application and protection of local, state and federal laws.

1206
02:37:40,950 --> 02:37:47,370
When the citizen is subject to fines and attorneys fees, without having been charged or convicted of a crime,

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02:37:47,770 --> 02:37:51,610
which is what this law states, let me repeat that.

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02:37:51,630 --> 02:37:57,650
When the citizen is subject to fines and attorneys fees, without having been charged or convicted of a crime,

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02:37:58,290 --> 02:38:04,530
and the police officer has extraordinary protections, that is not equal protection under the law.

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02:38:04,530 --> 02:38:05,390
The

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02:38:12,140 --> 02:38:17,600
legislative intent of the proposed law quotes a report from the Justice Department claiming

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02:38:17,600 --> 02:38:24,140
that over 700 officers have sustained injury in civil unrest since May of last year.

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02:38:24,860 --> 02:38:29,040
In fact, there is no official justice department data which supports this claim.

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02:38:29,700 --> 02:38:34,680
The allegation was taken from a New York Post story published on June 8, 2020.

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02:38:35,860 --> 02:38:40,080
I repeat that there is no Justice Department data which supports this claim.

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02:38:40,080 --> 02:38:47,420
The law would ultimately not benefit first responders and would suppress legal and vital

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02:38:47,420 --> 02:38:48,740
protests and demonstrations.

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02:38:49,740 --> 02:38:55,180
What would benefit law enforcement is more training for young cadets who may receive as

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02:38:55,180 --> 02:38:57,440
little as six months of training at the academy.

1220
02:38:58,280 --> 02:39:04,180
Cops do need support for depression, anxiety, and addiction, which contribute to a high suicide

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02:39:04,880 --> 02:39:07,060
rate among veteran officers.

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02:39:07,880 --> 02:39:14,060
If the sponsors of this bill are truly interested in the safety of first responders and

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02:39:14,060 --> 02:39:19,280
residents of NASA County, provide more funding for mental health and addiction treatment

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02:39:19,280 --> 02:39:20,260
for everyone,

1225
02:39:23,520 --> 02:39:27,480
and give frontline responsibility for mental health calls to mental health

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02:39:27,480 --> 02:39:28,120
professionals.

1227
02:39:28,740 --> 02:39:32,760
That's another thing that the detective referred to.

1228
02:39:32,900 --> 02:39:36,940
Cops do not need to sue citizens to feel safe and supported.

1229
02:39:36,940 --> 02:39:40,300
This is not about citizen versus cops,

1230
02:39:43,830 --> 02:39:48,290
just you have supported alcohol and drug treatment and mental health initiatives in the past.

1231
02:39:49,050 --> 02:39:53,290
You would show far more support for first responders by continuing that work.

1232
02:39:53,890 --> 02:40:01,870
In your efforts to sensationalize this issue, you risk bringing on the chaos that you are claiming to protect against.

1233
02:40:01,870 --> 02:40:08,950
This is not a political stunt. It is a political stunt. It should not be a political stunt for your re-election.

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02:40:09,950 --> 02:40:10,950
Thank you.

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02:40:19,080 --> 02:40:19,660
Senequil 11.

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02:40:29,820 --> 02:40:35,800
My name is Senequil 11, and I am the convener for Long Island United to transform police in the community safety,

1237
02:40:36,360 --> 02:40:38,780
as well as the founder for the women's diversity network.

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02:40:39,660 --> 02:40:46,220
We applaud the police that you honored here for doing the right thing, doing their job, and doing it correctly.

1239
02:40:46,220 --> 02:40:53,840
I feel that we need the police, but let's not forget that there is also bias in policing.

1240
02:40:54,640 --> 02:40:57,660
Not every police officer does their job with equity.

1241
02:40:58,360 --> 02:41:01,340
When they don't, we have to stand up for ourselves.

1242
02:41:02,180 --> 02:41:07,600
You're going to vote on a bill that basically takes away our rights to stand up for ourselves

1243
02:41:07,600 --> 02:41:15,460
when those that do not do a good job can be rewarded and can retaliate against us and commit

1244
02:41:15,460 --> 02:41:17,220
violence against us.

1245
02:41:17,780 --> 02:41:19,240
Legislate of Lafazan.

1246
02:41:20,040 --> 02:41:22,760
Last summer, a few of your former classmates

1247
02:41:22,760 --> 02:41:24,860
asked you to take some accountability

1248
02:41:24,860 --> 02:41:27,180
and address racial injustice

1249
02:41:27,180 --> 02:41:28,740
and police brutality.

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02:41:29,560 --> 02:41:30,500
You came to the rally

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02:41:30,500 --> 02:41:33,480
and you spoke saying that you would use your privilege

1252
02:41:33,480 --> 02:41:34,740
to make a difference.

1253
02:41:35,480 --> 02:41:38,100
So why are you here pushing a dangerous

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02:41:38,100 --> 02:41:40,580
and unconstitutional bill

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02:41:40,580 --> 02:41:42,660
that would categorize police officers

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02:41:42,660 --> 02:41:43,680
and first responders

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02:41:43,680 --> 02:41:51,120
as a protected class and allowed them to sue an individual for up to $50,000 for harassment.

1258
02:41:52,080 --> 02:41:58,020
That doesn't seem equitable, that doesn't seem bare, that doesn't feel like support.

1259
02:41:59,000 --> 02:42:08,100
Without having to show proof also, this is a complete opposite of what community members advocated for

1260
02:42:08,100 --> 02:42:11,160
when it came to police accountability and racial justice,

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02:42:11,680 --> 02:42:15,380
a complete opposite of what you said you stood for.

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02:42:16,180 --> 02:42:18,640
We, the community proposed police reforms

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02:42:18,640 --> 02:42:21,560
that would make our vulnerable neighbors feel safer

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02:42:21,560 --> 02:42:25,680
and said all of you, not all of you,

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02:42:25,740 --> 02:42:26,880
a couple of y'all sustained.

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02:42:27,720 --> 02:42:31,660
I'm refused to accept any meaningful reform.

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02:42:32,340 --> 02:42:35,820
What is happening here is an example of systemic racism

1268
02:42:35,820 --> 02:42:45,260
After the world watched, as Georgetown rose up, as George Floyd, a black man was brutally murdered by the police.

1269
02:42:46,000 --> 02:42:52,100
Instead of passing meaningful reform, a plan that holds the National Police Accountable,

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02:42:52,420 --> 02:43:02,600
y'all are on the verge of passing a law that holds community members who are tired of being harassed and overpoliced accountable.

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02:43:02,600 --> 02:43:11,680
And let's not act like it doesn't happen in NASA or you have to settle suits for over 50 million dollars

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02:43:11,680 --> 02:43:14,260
because it happens here in NASA.

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02:43:20,090 --> 02:43:26,210
Every police force that refuses to listen to our communities and commits violence towards us

1274
02:43:26,210 --> 02:43:30,850
will now be able to accuse us of a hate crime for criticizing them?

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02:43:31,470 --> 02:43:33,970
Police have more than enough protections.

1276
02:43:33,970 --> 02:43:41,110
We can't even get justice or accountability when they use unnecessary violence towards us.

1277
02:43:41,610 --> 02:43:45,030
This bill is rooted in bias and rooted in hate.

1278
02:43:45,790 --> 02:43:51,370
The data shows that we, the people, need more protections, not the damn police.

1279
02:43:55,510 --> 02:44:05,990
This is very much a retaliation bill, because we stood up for ourselves and you can't shake your head and say that it's not.

1280
02:44:05,990 --> 02:44:07,810
because that's what you wrote.

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02:44:08,510 --> 02:44:10,630
At the end of the day, Legislator L'Apperson,

1282
02:44:11,650 --> 02:44:14,210
and those democratic coastsponsors of yours,

1283
02:44:14,650 --> 02:44:17,290
and the Legislators' response to the racist policing,

1284
02:44:17,830 --> 02:44:21,050
it's a punish, block, and brown and ally community members

1285
02:44:21,050 --> 02:44:24,470
who stood up to say, racism has no police and policing.

1286
02:44:25,550 --> 02:44:29,350
You are not going to punish us for standing up for our rights.

1287
02:44:29,510 --> 02:44:30,770
How dare you?

1288
02:44:31,730 --> 02:44:35,130
And for the rest of the Legislator, I want to remind you

1289
02:44:35,130 --> 02:44:37,950
that this will not affect black and brown people

1290
02:44:37,950 --> 02:44:41,330
but the religious community, the LGBT community,

1291
02:44:41,690 --> 02:44:45,810
the disabled community, it affects every single one of us,

1292
02:44:46,010 --> 02:44:49,450
women who don't get paid equal, it affects all of us.

1293
02:44:50,970 --> 02:44:55,610
Also, let's remember, women and minors are the most often bystanders recording

1294
02:44:55,610 --> 02:44:58,470
and pleading for the health and safety and lives

1295
02:44:58,470 --> 02:44:59,970
and freedoms of their loved ones.

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02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:06,780
And so a full and victim to police misconduct. Legislators, you will be responsible for the women and

1297
02:45:06,780 --> 02:45:13,880
minors who are sued because they came out to rescue for their significant others and their

1298
02:45:13,880 --> 02:45:19,440
friends and families. Legislators, lapisans, one day, you're giving a young man

1299
02:45:19,440 --> 02:45:26,140
citation for organizing rallies of justice and now you're threatening to give the police the

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02:45:26,140 --> 02:45:32,800
to see them. Josh, I stood with you. When you wanted the county to rename the building

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02:45:32,800 --> 02:45:39,700
after showleachism, I stood with you because you seemed to care about black lives. Josh,

1302
02:45:39,800 --> 02:45:45,280
you interviewed me, but Northwell helped this part of your job dealing with diversity in equity.

1303
02:45:45,920 --> 02:45:51,540
Is this what diversity in equity looks like to you? Are you just pretending to do the right

1304
02:45:51,540 --> 02:45:57,460
for the public, but behind closed doors, your panzer into the PBA, and our constitutionally

1305
02:45:57,460 --> 02:46:02,620
silencing protesters and community members is more important than the lives of the legislators

1306
02:46:02,620 --> 02:46:08,180
considered your constituents. Y'all should be focusing on how to make the county equitable

1307
02:46:08,180 --> 02:46:13,680
for all. You should be focusing on how to update our police system so that we do not have armed

1308
02:46:13,680 --> 02:46:18,900
officers responsible for every safety issue. You should be focusing on holding the police

1309
02:46:18,900 --> 02:46:24,780
accountable because the Attorney General has already called you out and told you that your plan

1310
02:46:24,780 --> 02:46:30,800
was not holding the police accountable. Your county may have been raped the top and safety,

1311
02:46:31,120 --> 02:46:37,680
but in that same report it was ranked the least in diversity. You should be focusing on that.

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02:46:37,940 --> 02:46:44,340
Not retaliation against us for standing up for our rights when we had we should have been born with

1313
02:46:44,340 --> 02:46:50,140
Instead of protecting the people because they chose a job, and I'm almost done, legislators,

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02:46:50,860 --> 02:46:54,400
every yes vote is a disgrace to this county.

1315
02:46:55,440 --> 02:46:58,100
Do not make police above the law.

1316
02:46:58,760 --> 02:47:01,080
If you do, you will be sued.

1317
02:47:01,640 --> 02:47:07,840
You're going to have to spend tax payer money to defend your unconstitutional actions.

1318
02:47:08,460 --> 02:47:09,660
You're going to lose.

1319
02:47:09,660 --> 02:47:15,880
but she will be remembered as a legislator who do not care about human rights.

1320
02:47:16,580 --> 02:47:19,160
Is that the legacy you want to leave behind?

1321
02:47:19,860 --> 02:47:23,660
Don't be a coward. Don't let the police be your vote.

1322
02:47:24,640 --> 02:47:27,600
Sorry. Don't let the police be your boss.

1323
02:47:28,220 --> 02:47:34,120
You be their boss. You be accountable to the voters who put you in office.

1324
02:47:34,800 --> 02:47:39,540
Don't know on this bill. Just remove this bill. Thank you.

1325
02:47:50,930 --> 02:47:54,530
Melanie Derego, here we go.

1326
02:48:02,280 --> 02:48:02,700
I'm okay.

1327
02:48:02,980 --> 02:48:03,300
Too much.

1328
02:48:03,600 --> 02:48:05,120
I'm gonna keep my mask on.

1329
02:48:05,360 --> 02:48:07,180
Thank you.

1330
02:48:07,920 --> 02:48:08,880
Hello and good afternoon.

1331
02:48:09,940 --> 02:48:11,360
My name is Melanie Derego.

1332
02:48:11,400 --> 02:48:13,120
I'm a NASA County resident.

1333
02:48:13,460 --> 02:48:17,100
I'm a community organizer and I'm a constituent of legislator Derego.

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02:48:18,540 --> 02:48:20,240
Now I'm going to try not to be duplicated.

1335
02:48:20,480 --> 02:48:24,360
I have to hit with my comments just in the spirit of time here.

1336
02:48:25,000 --> 02:48:26,880
But I do have a few things to say.

1337
02:48:29,060 --> 02:48:40,120
I'm also here, not just as myself, but with a petition here of several hundred long Islanders who have also signed a petition to ask you all to vote no on this bill.

1338
02:48:49,080 --> 02:48:53,400
That this bill was introduced in earnest to support police.

1339
02:48:54,380 --> 02:49:01,500
However, it is my belief and the belief of these hundreds of people that this bill would do the exact opposite.

1340
02:49:03,100 --> 02:49:09,260
It would further road trust when trust between police and our community are at all time

1341
02:49:09,260 --> 02:49:15,000
lows, and it would make our community less safe for existing protected classes

1342
02:49:15,000 --> 02:49:17,220
who already fear the police.

1343
02:49:19,200 --> 02:49:23,960
But what I really came here to talk about today was first amendment rights.

1344
02:49:24,840 --> 02:49:28,780
Now, for those of you up here who know me and I know quite a few of you,

1345
02:49:29,040 --> 02:49:32,380
know that I am a frequent user of my first amendment rights.

1346
02:49:37,500 --> 02:49:42,720
spill would in fringe upon the right to free speech and the right to assemble.

1347
02:49:44,660 --> 02:49:48,480
Now, from Martin Luther King, Congressman John Lewis, so

1348
02:49:48,480 --> 02:49:53,220
I mentioned Shirley to his earlier glorious dinam and Brenda Howard.

1349
02:49:53,880 --> 02:49:59,580
These are no doubt civil rights giants that I would imagine have influenced your careers.

1350
02:50:00,660 --> 02:50:06,180
They all shaped our hardest thought civil rights battles with protest,

1351
02:50:07,180 --> 02:50:10,240
Marching and using our first amendment rights.

1352
02:50:14,550 --> 02:50:17,870
Do not do it to service to our civil rights giants.

1353
02:50:18,530 --> 02:50:21,790
By passing this dangerous bill and moving us backwards in time.

1354
02:50:22,870 --> 02:50:26,030
Now I have a tremendous amount of respect for public servants.

1355
02:50:26,810 --> 02:50:30,450
And so I'm here today to ask you all to think about

1356
02:50:30,450 --> 02:50:33,170
what it was that led you into public service.

1357
02:50:35,660 --> 02:50:38,100
With this vote that you are about to take,

1358
02:50:38,560 --> 02:50:40,480
you will define your legacy.

1359
02:50:40,480 --> 02:50:47,460
Now you can choose to vote no on an unconstitutional bill.

1360
02:50:47,940 --> 02:50:50,480
That's your choice. That's the one I would prefer.

1361
02:50:51,600 --> 02:51:01,000
Or you can choose to have a dereliction of your duty to misrepresent your constituents and pass an unconstitutional bill.

1362
02:51:01,480 --> 02:51:09,660
Now I don't think any one of you up here became public servants to repeal

1363
02:51:09,660 --> 02:51:13,020
and further roll back our constitutional rights.

1364
02:51:14,240 --> 02:51:15,460
Legislators are ready to witness.

1365
02:51:16,160 --> 02:51:19,680
I know you personally, I know you care about our community.

1366
02:51:20,580 --> 02:51:25,420
Legislators, Drucker, I've been in the streets with you protesting for human rights abuses.

1367
02:51:27,020 --> 02:51:33,160
I'm going to ask every single one of you to think really hard before you make a vote here today.

1368
02:51:33,160 --> 02:51:42,160
In a year where we have seen just how fragile our democracy is, I implore you, I implore you.

1369
02:51:43,120 --> 02:51:45,400
Do not roll back our democracy.

1370
02:51:46,200 --> 02:51:48,540
Do your duty and hold no on this bill.

1371
02:51:51,310 --> 02:51:51,850
Thank you.

1372
02:52:00,720 --> 02:52:01,700
Emily Kaufman.

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02:52:15,000 --> 02:52:15,280
Good afternoon.

1374
02:52:17,220 --> 02:52:19,160
This is not where I wanted to be today.

1375
02:52:19,940 --> 02:52:22,000
On Monday afternoon, as I suspect.

1376
02:52:22,500 --> 02:52:24,460
Most folks had other things we wanted to do today,

1377
02:52:24,460 --> 02:52:30,480
nothing was more urgent than to be here and so here we are. My name is Emily Kaufman,

1378
02:52:30,600 --> 02:52:34,740
I'm here representing Long Island United to transform policing and community safety.

1379
02:52:35,620 --> 02:52:40,840
I've had the opportunity to stand in this legislative chamber to speak to this legislative body

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about police reform and we'll get to that in a minute.

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02:52:45,300 --> 02:52:49,340
So I want to start by making sure we are clear as others have before me.

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My self, L.I. United, our partner coalitions, we are not anti-police officer.

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02:53:05,500 --> 02:53:12,480
We are not anti-police officer, but what we are is anti-police state.

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02:53:19,220 --> 02:53:20,640
That is not hyperbally.

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02:53:21,640 --> 02:53:31,360
That is what this bill that you, Josh, are submitting bill 187-21 moves towards

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02:53:31,360 --> 02:53:37,720
creating. As you've heard, it increases the power that individual police officers have

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02:53:37,720 --> 02:53:44,400
over individual citizens and community. So as we've heard in the recording,

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02:53:44,940 --> 02:53:49,820
that Ms. Tracy Edwards played today, which we can no longer find in your material

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02:53:49,820 --> 02:53:58,440
strush, because you've removed it. That wasn't by accident. But what we know is this speech that

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02:53:58,440 --> 02:54:05,760
prepared, helped by former friends and colleagues of yours. I know Nikhil Goyle helped.

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02:54:06,000 --> 02:54:09,300
He's been trying to reach you, but you're not returning his calls.

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02:54:10,440 --> 02:54:20,240
What we understand is that you're not ignorant. You actually do know the history of racial

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02:54:20,240 --> 02:54:27,540
disparities, not only in this country, but right here in Nassau County. We know that

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02:54:27,540 --> 02:54:37,320
understand systemic racism. We know that you understand what marginalized groups need

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02:54:37,320 --> 02:54:43,280
in terms of heat crime protections as a fellow Jew, and I want to put your Jew

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02:54:43,280 --> 02:54:51,940
card down, it's a disgrace, and it's offensive, and legislator Drucker, the same

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02:54:51,940 --> 02:55:00,360
goes for you. I am deeply disappointed. So, we know that Commissioner Ryder spent all of

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02:55:00,360 --> 02:55:08,220
last year talking about how peaceful protests were. How no riots occurred. How almost no

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02:55:08,220 --> 02:55:13,680
arrest happened. So, as we've heard over and over, there is no evidence, no basis for this

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02:55:13,680 --> 02:55:20,100
bill in reality. And as we've heard, time and again, we know that this is because you're

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02:55:20,100 --> 02:55:27,220
afraid of your upcoming campaign, Josh. You are afraid you won't be reelected. You don't

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02:55:27,220 --> 02:55:35,660
know where you stand with your constituents. Look around the room, Josh. CNN's covering

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02:55:35,660 --> 02:55:43,720
this, Josh. In the words of the notorious B.I.G., if you don't know, now you know.

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02:55:47,840 --> 02:55:48,100
So,

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02:55:53,710 --> 02:55:53,970
since

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02:55:53,970 --> 02:55:58,710
trying to do political calculation seems to be the only thing you're interested in these days.

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02:55:59,710 --> 02:56:08,510
I suspect that after the flurry of negative media continues to flood you, and calls continue to come into your office,

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02:56:09,070 --> 02:56:11,490
you might try some damage control after this.

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02:56:11,810 --> 02:56:20,530
So I have a number of bills that would actually create protections for community members who need additional protections.

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02:56:21,670 --> 02:56:27,510
Many of them, many of them, are contained in the People's Plan.

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02:56:29,550 --> 02:56:36,630
That 310 page research backed document that was presented for hours to this legislative

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02:56:36,630 --> 02:56:37,330
body.

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02:56:38,110 --> 02:56:43,230
For example, if we want to talk about civil lawsuits, we can talk about the proposal for

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02:56:43,230 --> 02:56:46,170
liability insurance for individual officers.

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02:56:46,170 --> 02:56:54,010
So, taxpayers here in Nassau County no longer must foot the bill, when police officers commit crimes.

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02:56:54,650 --> 02:57:01,510
As Shanikua mentioned, we've been paying $55 million what we know over the last five years.

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02:57:02,710 --> 02:57:07,550
How about a bill to address hiring officers who have past records of misconduct?

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02:57:07,550 --> 02:57:16,650
Because we learned yesterday in the Newstay article that 17 former NYPD officers with criminal

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02:57:16,650 --> 02:57:24,410
conduct histories were hired by this and CPD, I'd like a bill about that.

1420
02:57:25,490 --> 02:57:27,650
How about some transparency measures?

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02:57:28,330 --> 02:57:33,150
Because what we know from and I encourage anyone who hasn't seen it to look up Newstay's

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02:57:33,150 --> 02:57:36,630
watchdog article policing on Long Island cameras and consequences.

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02:57:37,470 --> 02:57:45,190
We know that there are at least four on record individual, Nassau residents, who received

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02:57:45,190 --> 02:57:51,310
unwarranted actions and unjustified force by Long Island police officers, as well as the

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02:57:51,310 --> 02:57:54,430
money paid millions of dollars in compensation.

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02:57:54,430 --> 02:58:03,350
this was discovered on video recordings in the public to disprove the lies

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02:58:03,350 --> 02:58:10,270
levied against these four individuals. So we know that based on judgments

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02:58:10,270 --> 02:58:16,250
of independent criminal justice experts including former chief prosecutor

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02:58:16,250 --> 02:58:20,230
here in Nassau that it's almost unjustifiable. He says that there wasn't

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02:58:20,230 --> 02:58:24,750
probable cause to bring charges here against the police.

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02:58:25,590 --> 02:58:28,510
Now, could you sum up at your well-being on five minutes?

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02:58:28,910 --> 02:58:29,490
I am.

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02:58:31,830 --> 02:58:37,810
What we know is we've had to sue to get the records from the law that was passed on

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02:58:37,810 --> 02:58:39,790
58 because now so won't release them.

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02:58:39,930 --> 02:58:42,090
We need transparency here in this county.

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02:58:42,630 --> 02:58:44,830
We need a meaningful system of accountability.

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02:58:45,610 --> 02:58:50,350
We need a CCRB. There is a ton of work to be done.

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02:58:50,350 --> 02:58:54,530
and it is about time you start doing it.

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02:58:54,730 --> 02:58:55,670
Thank you.

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02:59:10,580 --> 02:59:10,800
Bader.

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02:59:11,380 --> 02:59:12,260
Skyler Bader.

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02:59:23,420 --> 02:59:28,860
Thank you and I would like to ask that everyone please hold any comments while I'm going

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02:59:28,860 --> 02:59:31,440
because as you'll hear in my speech,

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02:59:32,060 --> 02:59:34,300
noise really kind of knocks me off.

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02:59:35,420 --> 02:59:38,980
So my name is Skyler Bader and I'm from West Tempestet

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02:59:38,980 --> 02:59:41,440
and I'm a leader of Indivisible Nassau County.

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02:59:41,440 --> 02:59:56,860
I was born and raised in the south, and I moved to New York, because I believed in the convenient lie that only white southern people are racist, and I didn't want to live in a racist society, out of the frying pan into the fire of Long Island.

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02:59:58,360 --> 02:59:59,840
These bills are racist.

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03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:12,600
Abelist and anti-democratic and based on misinformation and propaganda. These bills are clearly only designed to apply to police and are a direct reaction to the Black Lives Matter movement.

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03:00:13,700 --> 03:00:29,080
Do any of you really think that if COVID deniers refuse to serve local yard doctors, or a visiting boogieman of Dr. Fauci, would serve with these legislators still stand behind these bills? Perhaps some would celebrate that behavior.

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03:00:30,000 --> 03:00:37,900
as some of the pro-police people celebrate the beatings of police in D.C. on January 6th.

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03:00:38,080 --> 03:00:43,000
We are against police brutality and discrimination, not police as people.

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03:00:43,880 --> 03:00:50,180
The fact that you can't tell the difference, and or choose not to, because you assume

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03:00:50,180 --> 03:00:53,880
it alienates some white voters, is the real problem.

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03:00:54,920 --> 03:01:00,800
My two preschoolers and I have marched in dozens of BLM protests here on Long Island.

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03:01:02,140 --> 03:01:08,460
There were multiple protests a day on Long Island for months, over a thousand at least.

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03:01:09,600 --> 03:01:18,120
Why can't this bill name a single relevant local incident in the legislative history to justify the need for this bill?

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03:01:18,680 --> 03:01:22,100
And why can't the legislature name any in his media coverage?

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03:01:22,920 --> 03:01:34,060
I am just a regular community member in West Tempestet, yet I can name at least 10 anti-Semitic hate crimes against the Orthodox community there in the last year.

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03:01:34,980 --> 03:01:46,940
But he can't name one provable actual threat to local police, and they should get stronger evidentiary laws and settlement amounts than real hate crime victims.

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03:01:46,940 --> 03:02:10,080
This is a political re-election employee and another step away from democracy, a PR move by those legislators who fear the PBA's argument and millions of dollars in re-election ads that white voters will punish them for standing up for democracy justice and for people like me and all the people standing behind me.

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03:02:10,080 --> 03:02:20,260
In Utah, a criminal law in Utah, a criminal law with very similar language is being used

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03:02:20,260 --> 03:02:26,220
to prosecute a teenager with one year in jail for stomping on a black back-the-blue sign

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03:02:26,220 --> 03:02:28,380
with a quote intimidating smirk.

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03:02:29,580 --> 03:02:33,000
The foundation of hate crimes and discrimination is intent.

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03:02:33,780 --> 03:02:37,080
It is by definition completely about intent.

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03:02:37,080 --> 03:02:41,280
Did you act because of someone's protective class?

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03:02:41,900 --> 03:02:47,660
Yet this law makes an irrobotable presumption that this discriminatory intent against police

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03:02:47,660 --> 03:02:54,060
exists simply because of the presence of a uniform or any kind of knowledge that the person

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03:02:54,060 --> 03:02:55,140
is a police officer.

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And that makes this bill completely self-fulfilling.

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03:02:59,620 --> 03:03:04,300
Every time someone gets pulled over and the officer feels that the person disrespected

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03:03:04,300 --> 03:03:11,000
them. The driver will be at risk of bankruptcy under this law. How often have police officers

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03:03:11,000 --> 03:03:17,600
complained, rightfully, of disrespect during police stops. Rold eyes arguing the ticket.

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03:03:18,560 --> 03:03:23,740
Because of the irrevitable presumption, these, quote-unquote, normal interactions will become

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03:03:23,740 --> 03:03:29,940
hate crimes. Because they were one, seriously annoying, which is one definition of harassment

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03:03:29,940 --> 03:03:38,160
under penal law section 240.26 to an officer in uniform, under this bill.

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03:03:39,280 --> 03:03:43,600
As an autistic person, and especially as one who doesn't supposedly look autistic,

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03:03:44,620 --> 03:03:48,820
people sometimes feel that I'm not respectful enough because I don't always display the

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03:03:48,820 --> 03:03:52,780
social cues that they think I should or because I speak bluntly.

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03:03:53,800 --> 03:03:58,340
For example, I have a hard time making quote-unquote appropriate eye contact.

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03:03:58,340 --> 03:04:07,820
This makes autistic people look suspicious to police and leads to many unnecessary harmful and deadly interactions with police.

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03:04:09,420 --> 03:04:14,420
I have no doubt that the NASA PD will use this new tactic to shut down free speech,

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03:04:14,840 --> 03:04:17,880
and that there is no evidence to support the need for this law.

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03:04:17,880 --> 03:04:23,740
Any person of conscience should be arranged against the use of such authoritarian

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03:04:23,740 --> 03:04:27,460
scare tactics in our community and paid with our dollars.

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03:04:28,840 --> 03:04:34,500
My last point would be that last April when we were considering the people's plan and

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03:04:34,500 --> 03:04:37,540
other supposed police reform bills.

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03:04:38,480 --> 03:04:44,220
I don't remember which legislator it was, but one of you asked him repeatedly why his own

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03:04:44,220 --> 03:04:50,820
statistics asked commissioner writer why his own statistics, which they thought tooth and nail

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03:04:50,820 --> 03:04:56,120
in court to avoid releasing. State that they pull over five black drivers for every one

1492
03:04:56,120 --> 03:05:01,660
white driver. He could only say repeatedly that all stops are based on probable cause.

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03:05:02,900 --> 03:05:08,620
As a lawyer, I know about probable cause. Does commissioner writer believe that white people

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03:05:08,620 --> 03:05:13,600
are inherently less criminal and that black people are inherently more criminal? Or does

1495
03:05:13,600 --> 03:05:18,240
NASA PD choose to pursue probable cause more often against black people.

1496
03:05:18,860 --> 03:05:20,960
How else can we explain his answer?

1497
03:05:21,880 --> 03:05:27,200
Or is his answer like his now deleted tweets about supporting BLM only when it is politically

1498
03:05:27,200 --> 03:05:28,060
expedient?

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03:05:29,940 --> 03:05:33,860
Free speech is by definition under our laws not violence.

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03:05:34,620 --> 03:05:40,540
It may be uncomfortable, it may be unwelcome, it may be infuriating, you may disagree, but

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03:05:40,540 --> 03:05:43,780
it is not violence as suggested by the spill.

1502
03:05:44,500 --> 03:05:47,060
And it is horrifying to see a legislature effectively

1503
03:05:47,060 --> 03:05:50,760
attempt to criminalize unpopular words and smirks.

1504
03:05:51,460 --> 03:05:53,500
My face is not a crime.

1505
03:05:55,560 --> 03:05:56,280
Thank you.

1506
03:06:12,880 --> 03:06:13,780
Great crime, Berg.

1507
03:06:22,370 --> 03:06:24,590
I don't have any written speeches,

1508
03:06:24,750 --> 03:06:26,490
because that's not what I do.

1509
03:06:27,050 --> 03:06:27,890
I'm an activist.

1510
03:06:28,670 --> 03:06:31,690
I've been doing this for 31 years now.

1511
03:06:31,990 --> 03:06:32,970
Half my life.

1512
03:06:34,470 --> 03:06:47,770
I've witnessed many police brutality incidents, especially NASA, Suffolk, New York City.

1513
03:06:48,970 --> 03:06:56,770
I was that occupied from weekends on weekends and seeing girls getting beat up by police.

1514
03:06:56,770 --> 03:06:57,430
We

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03:07:01,660 --> 03:07:05,060
have a right to protest.

1516
03:07:05,900 --> 03:07:09,440
We have a right to our free speech.

1517
03:07:10,560 --> 03:07:14,260
You want us to respect police officers.

1518
03:07:15,620 --> 03:07:20,380
That's a earned disposition that they have to do.

1519
03:07:20,680 --> 03:07:22,160
Isn't that right, Mr. Elrad?

1520
03:07:23,200 --> 03:07:26,400
Sergeant Elrad, that rides around with his sound cannons.

1521
03:07:26,400 --> 03:07:31,000
at our peaceful protests in Long Island.

1522
03:07:33,250 --> 03:07:38,790
This is the first time I'm able to protest on Long Island

1523
03:07:38,790 --> 03:07:43,970
over 150 myself in the last year and a half.

1524
03:07:46,530 --> 03:07:53,150
I don't want to be criminalized for doing my duty as a citizen.

1525
03:07:54,550 --> 03:08:07,090
I'm not a criminal, but me, I fear them and the ones over there because like they tell us

1526
03:08:09,720 --> 03:08:21,400
you fit the description, you have a dad and you have a gun and I fear you, you have the right,

1527
03:08:23,560 --> 03:08:27,640
you have the right to keep us safe, not beat us up.

1528
03:08:27,660 --> 03:08:31,560
Sir, sir, comments onto the legislature.

1529
03:08:31,980 --> 03:08:35,200
He knows he did not even listen to.

1530
03:08:35,380 --> 03:08:37,040
Look at him.

1531
03:08:37,260 --> 03:08:38,840
Are you listening to what?

1532
03:08:40,240 --> 03:08:41,520
Sir, sir.

1533
03:08:41,520 --> 03:08:41,840
Sir, sir.

1534
03:08:46,410 --> 03:08:48,370
He's there with one looking nobody.

1535
03:08:49,050 --> 03:08:49,970
He's a freaking joke.

1536
03:08:50,010 --> 03:08:52,110
Why don't you tell him to look at all of you.

1537
03:08:52,430 --> 03:08:53,230
As we're speaking.

1538
03:08:53,890 --> 03:08:54,350
At the police.

1539
03:08:54,590 --> 03:08:54,830
At the police.

1540
03:08:55,450 --> 03:08:56,570
Stand to the police.

1541
03:08:57,330 --> 03:08:58,530
Tell him that.

1542
03:09:00,040 --> 03:09:01,560
Tell him that.

1543
03:09:01,700 --> 03:09:04,520
Now one time, he's such a damn hypocrite.

1544
03:09:05,760 --> 03:09:09,040
Now one time, look at him, put your phone down.

1545
03:09:09,340 --> 03:09:10,920
Can you look at me?

1546
03:09:11,080 --> 03:09:12,060
He can't.

1547
03:09:12,080 --> 03:09:12,260
Sir.

1548
03:09:12,740 --> 03:09:13,520
He can't.

1549
03:09:13,520 --> 03:09:15,560
If you have something to say, let the bill say it.

1550
03:09:15,620 --> 03:09:18,620
I, the bill is going to criminalize

1551
03:09:18,620 --> 03:09:20,660
every person of color.

1552
03:09:21,120 --> 03:09:22,500
That's all this is about.

1553
03:09:23,500 --> 03:09:24,660
That's all this about.

1554
03:09:25,020 --> 03:09:28,540
I'm glad to be part of the social justice movement

1555
03:09:28,540 --> 03:09:31,900
that was all over the last year and a half.

1556
03:09:32,380 --> 03:09:35,840
97.6% of them were peaceful,

1557
03:09:36,500 --> 03:09:38,920
but you only look at the little bits

1558
03:09:38,920 --> 03:09:41,060
that were violent, that wasn't involved

1559
03:09:41,060 --> 03:09:42,480
with Black Lives Matter.

1560
03:09:45,040 --> 03:09:48,360
I'm activists, I'm always gonna be an activist.

1561
03:09:49,140 --> 03:09:52,040
Leave us alone, let us do our job.

1562
03:10:00,660 --> 03:10:01,560
Kathy Middleton.

1563
03:10:10,500 --> 03:10:11,500
We're a Kathy Middleton.

1564
03:10:21,440 --> 03:10:22,300
Judy Gardner.

1565
03:10:28,380 --> 03:10:29,780
Is there a Judy Gardner here?

1566
03:10:30,420 --> 03:10:33,140
And we've been here for a while, so many of these people left.

1567
03:10:40,840 --> 03:10:41,580
Lim Kaufman.

1568
03:10:53,780 --> 03:10:54,820
But it's way down.

1569
03:10:56,420 --> 03:10:59,380
I had a whole nice thing right now, and everybody

1570
03:10:59,380 --> 03:11:01,180
has said most of it.

1571
03:11:01,460 --> 03:11:05,620
So I really want to stand here and talk to the white people

1572
03:11:05,620 --> 03:11:08,360
who are sitting in front of me.

1573
03:11:09,480 --> 03:11:13,380
I'm a white, oh, and I'd like you to look at me.

1574
03:11:13,420 --> 03:11:14,840
I hear you're not looking at me.

1575
03:11:15,040 --> 03:11:16,720
So Josh, Arnie.

1576
03:11:16,720 --> 03:11:18,580
Really, Arnie.

1577
03:11:20,560 --> 03:11:24,040
Okay, so I am a white, affluent woman,

1578
03:11:25,960 --> 03:11:28,240
and I have a wonderful relationship with the police.

1579
03:11:29,060 --> 03:11:29,380
Why?

1580
03:11:30,240 --> 03:11:32,200
Because the police are never in my neighborhood.

1581
03:11:33,480 --> 03:11:35,540
And I have never been pulled over by the police

1582
03:11:35,540 --> 03:11:39,080
because driving while white apparently not a thing.

1583
03:11:42,500 --> 03:11:45,840
So, how about if we white people,

1584
03:11:45,840 --> 03:12:02,540
Listen to the Black and Brown people in our life who have a different experience than we do and are trying to make us understand that this bill would be really really horrible for many people in our communities.

1585
03:12:10,100 --> 03:12:16,260
When we were going to pass police reform plans, I'm one of the people who helped write the People's Plan.

1586
03:12:16,260 --> 03:12:27,100
The three black legislators sitting before me all said vote for the people's plan is the only one that is really going to have police

1587
03:12:27,100 --> 03:12:33,320
accountability and all the white people said we don't really care what you think.

1588
03:12:33,940 --> 03:12:42,480
Just because you're telling us that your experience is different and that the police are not always our friends, we don't really care what you think.

1589
03:12:42,480 --> 03:12:52,000
So once again today, it appears that legislators, Abraham's, and binoculars are against this bill.

1590
03:12:52,880 --> 03:12:56,560
Why don't we listen to what they have to say?

1591
03:13:01,420 --> 03:13:07,700
Our experience, our experience as white people, is not their experience.

1592
03:13:07,940 --> 03:13:10,500
We will never have a problem with the police.

1593
03:13:10,820 --> 03:13:14,000
The police are our friend. They like us. They look like us.

1594
03:13:14,000 --> 03:13:15,700
I sat through all of these things.

1595
03:13:15,960 --> 03:13:18,380
There wasn't one black policeman that came up.

1596
03:13:21,070 --> 03:13:24,530
That is really the challenge that you have in front of you

1597
03:13:24,530 --> 03:13:28,610
is to make the police force look like the people who they police.

1598
03:13:29,530 --> 03:13:36,070
So Josh, Arnie, Arnie, I met with you when we wrote the traffic bill.

1599
03:13:36,330 --> 03:13:40,710
And I came away from our meeting and I said to my friends and your constituents,

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03:13:41,450 --> 03:13:46,090
he's a good guy. And as I've told in that you're a co-sponsor of this bill,

1601
03:13:46,310 --> 03:13:50,090
You know, firstly, they say, what the hell is happening to him?

1602
03:13:50,610 --> 03:13:52,870
How can you be doing this?

1603
03:13:53,130 --> 03:13:56,350
Now, Josh, I'm older than you, so you have to look at me when I talk.

1604
03:13:56,550 --> 03:13:57,290
That's called respectful.

1605
03:13:59,070 --> 03:14:00,850
So I need you to look at me.

1606
03:14:01,290 --> 03:14:04,810
I was on the school board in my home school district for nine years.

1607
03:14:05,070 --> 03:14:09,430
And sometimes we came up with something that we wanted to do,

1608
03:14:09,490 --> 03:14:11,350
and it sounded great and executive session,

1609
03:14:11,750 --> 03:14:15,690
and then we came out and there were a whole bunch of our constituents there.

1610
03:14:15,690 --> 03:14:19,970
And every once in a while on a really good day, we listen to them.

1611
03:14:20,890 --> 03:14:21,890
Listen to us.

1612
03:14:22,070 --> 03:14:24,730
I know you all came into this room.

1613
03:14:25,030 --> 03:14:29,770
Convince that you are going to pass this bill today, but you don't have to.

1614
03:14:30,530 --> 03:14:32,590
You can change your mind.

1615
03:14:35,570 --> 03:14:38,370
So it will be awful that on a Monday afternoon,

1616
03:14:38,690 --> 03:14:42,130
a couple of hundred people dropped what they were doing came out.

1617
03:14:42,430 --> 03:14:45,710
Your minds were already made up, and you didn't listen to anybody.

1618
03:14:45,710 --> 03:14:47,910
Of course, we will vote you out.

1619
03:14:48,150 --> 03:14:49,670
You know that's going to happen.

1620
03:14:52,610 --> 03:14:55,710
But it shouldn't be threats of oh, we're going to vote you out.

1621
03:14:55,730 --> 03:14:59,570
No, we're going to try to, it should just be that you want to do the right thing.

1622
03:15:00,000 --> 03:15:19,220
Listen to these people and please listen to legislators' A-Brahams, buy-no, and eyelashes. They are trying to tell you something that you don't understand. We don't live their experience. Joshi, yet don't live their experience. Pull the damn bill.

1623
03:15:32,840 --> 03:15:33,620
Louis Mendes.

1624
03:15:44,880 --> 03:15:45,920
When I started this, everybody.

1625
03:15:49,460 --> 03:15:52,540
This used to be Mikasa. I used to work in the county of Nassau.

1626
03:15:52,540 --> 03:15:56,540
But I feel like Yucasa is not my Kasa anymore.

1627
03:16:00,040 --> 03:16:04,700
Folks, my name is Luis Mendez, I'm the former assistant director and

1628
03:16:04,700 --> 03:16:08,060
Project Director of the National County Office of Minority Affairs.

1629
03:16:09,000 --> 03:16:12,960
I am the founder of an entity called Empowering Young Professionals.

1630
03:16:13,680 --> 03:16:17,280
And I'm also Latino in case you guys haven't heard or seen.

1631
03:16:18,400 --> 03:16:24,940
You know, I used to get coal to do ethnic sensitivity training at the Nasser County Police Academy.

1632
03:16:25,460 --> 03:16:31,480
But ever since I've been speaking up about the rights of black and brown, I no longer get coal.

1633
03:16:33,960 --> 03:16:38,120
There's some young men here that went through my class and I'm proud to see him here.

1634
03:16:38,200 --> 03:16:40,620
He happens to be an American of Salvadorian background.

1635
03:16:40,800 --> 03:16:42,920
And you could single him out because he's not white.

1636
03:16:44,810 --> 03:16:47,010
I can't change the color of my skin.

1637
03:16:47,550 --> 03:16:49,030
Neither can any of the black folks here.

1638
03:16:50,350 --> 03:16:56,910
But yet, a cop, if he or she feels that this is dangerous for them, they could quit.

1639
03:17:01,630 --> 03:17:05,430
I'm going to tell you, and I'm going to share my experience with all of you.

1640
03:17:05,910 --> 03:17:09,930
I live in the county of Nassau, 1.3 million people.

1641
03:17:10,630 --> 03:17:16,750
A county, where the Nassau County Police Department is under consent decree for not hiring people that look like me.

1642
03:17:17,670 --> 03:17:24,910
Our county, where the police commissioner can openly say, as a matter of fact, black and latinos

1643
03:17:24,910 --> 03:17:30,150
can't be hired, because they can't qualify to be police officers, because they come from

1644
03:17:30,150 --> 03:17:31,050
broken homes.

1645
03:17:36,500 --> 03:17:38,280
And I got three white legislators.

1646
03:17:39,580 --> 03:17:44,540
Now, holding my future on the line, and by the way, I'm glad that my legislative area made

1647
03:17:44,540 --> 03:17:44,820
it back.

1648
03:17:44,860 --> 03:17:45,600
Thank you so much.

1649
03:17:45,860 --> 03:17:48,220
Hopefully, I'm able to change your mind with my experience.

1650
03:17:48,920 --> 03:17:55,880
A few years back, legislative office on came to empowering young professionals, which is directly right across the street at 220 old country road.

1651
03:17:56,640 --> 03:18:03,860
He broke bread with the young members of empowering young professionals, just like he said, in that tape that was played, that he wanted to empower the youth.

1652
03:18:04,880 --> 03:18:06,000
He lied to us.

1653
03:18:06,500 --> 03:18:08,700
He won't even answer our phone calls right now.

1654
03:18:09,120 --> 03:18:14,100
I've texted him seven times to pull the bill and he hasn't even said hello to me.

1655
03:18:14,100 --> 03:18:17,100
So, I want to tell you this, which is very important.

1656
03:18:17,340 --> 03:18:21,260
I got a white middle-aged man, legislator.

1657
03:18:21,980 --> 03:18:25,360
I white added touch with minorities, woman, and a legislator.

1658
03:18:25,820 --> 03:18:29,040
In October of his 27-year-old self-proclaimed living

1659
03:18:29,040 --> 03:18:31,440
in the basement of his parents' house, legislator.

1660
03:18:33,420 --> 03:18:36,540
Who now want to feel my experience.

1661
03:18:37,480 --> 03:18:41,140
Who want to put me in a very difficult situation

1662
03:18:41,140 --> 03:18:42,140
when it comes to policing.

1663
03:18:43,180 --> 03:18:46,080
I have just handed over the National County Charter,

1664
03:18:47,800 --> 03:18:50,160
Section 2112, to the legislators.

1665
03:18:50,920 --> 03:18:52,940
Does everybody have them?

1666
03:18:53,060 --> 03:18:53,900
They coming around, right?

1667
03:18:54,080 --> 03:18:55,820
This is very important because I'm

1668
03:18:55,820 --> 03:18:57,920
going to just forget about everything that has been said.

1669
03:18:58,020 --> 03:18:59,300
And I'm going to talk to you about procedure,

1670
03:19:01,080 --> 03:19:05,520
which is what supposedly supposed to govern all of you.

1671
03:19:06,020 --> 03:19:08,680
So if you look at the National County Office of Minority

1672
03:19:08,680 --> 03:19:15,800
FAS charter, which is the equivalent to what would you call it, the Constitution of the

1673
03:19:15,800 --> 03:19:15,960
county.

1674
03:19:16,000 --> 03:19:17,720
Thank you so much, Council.

1675
03:19:19,460 --> 03:19:23,520
The Office of Minority Affairs should have the following powers and duties.

1676
03:19:24,720 --> 03:19:29,260
Number A assists the various officers of the county government in improving the delivery

1677
03:19:29,260 --> 03:19:30,660
of quality of life services.

1678
03:19:31,320 --> 03:19:34,740
All of you are county government officers.

1679
03:19:35,420 --> 03:19:42,400
In the following manners, social services, mental health, health services, public works, projects

1680
03:19:42,400 --> 03:19:45,780
involving the minority community, and public safety.

1681
03:19:46,920 --> 03:19:48,540
This is a public safety matter.

1682
03:19:49,300 --> 03:19:52,300
So I have a question because there's a lot of blame to go around to get here.

1683
03:19:52,420 --> 03:19:53,760
I apologize if I take a little bit longer.

1684
03:19:54,700 --> 03:19:59,540
The administration has the Office of Minority Affairs Executive Director submitted at

1685
03:19:59,540 --> 03:20:05,780
called by the charter to produce and publish a research paper or study issue affecting the minority

1686
03:20:05,780 --> 03:20:09,360
communities. Has that been submitted for this legislation to be considered?

1687
03:20:10,520 --> 03:20:15,400
The answer is no. There is a minority affairs standing committee and the legislative

1688
03:20:15,400 --> 03:20:22,240
body. Any one of you could have called for a hearing. But yet, legislative roads, you know

1689
03:20:22,240 --> 03:20:27,320
you have an open hearing. They didn't back to two years ago, where Reverend Watson is still waiting

1690
03:20:27,320 --> 03:20:28,400
for you to call him.

1691
03:20:28,980 --> 03:20:30,660
Unfortunately, Reverend Watson is dead.

1692
03:20:34,460 --> 03:20:40,060
So I just want you to know this is your rules and you bypass them and the reason

1693
03:20:40,060 --> 03:20:43,880
why you bypass them is because you don't care what we have to say.

1694
03:20:44,500 --> 03:20:48,080
And I plead to you, I have kids that are growing up in the county.

1695
03:20:48,520 --> 03:20:50,460
I have a grandson who's black and Latino.

1696
03:20:51,840 --> 03:20:53,280
His last name is Floyd, by the way.

1697
03:20:54,140 --> 03:20:55,480
I just want you to know something.

1698
03:20:56,060 --> 03:20:57,540
You have a chance to make it right.

1699
03:20:57,540 --> 03:21:00,220
You have a chance to send this low back to committee.

1700
03:21:00,600 --> 03:21:02,860
You have a chance to have the office of my naughty face

1701
03:21:02,860 --> 03:21:04,920
come back and give you an impact assessment.

1702
03:21:05,320 --> 03:21:07,440
And then that impact assessment, you will assess

1703
03:21:07,440 --> 03:21:11,560
that this low is not good for people that look like everybody behind me.

1704
03:21:12,080 --> 03:21:13,260
So Josh,

1705
03:21:16,770 --> 03:21:19,210
I'm behalf of everybody here for the two Democrats

1706
03:21:19,210 --> 03:21:22,090
and you shame on you.

1707
03:21:22,150 --> 03:21:24,830
Shame on you and shame on you.

1708
03:21:26,210 --> 03:21:26,970
Thank you.

1709
03:21:36,500 --> 03:21:39,100
Whoever has these sanitized, just leave it up there.

1710
03:21:39,100 --> 03:21:42,840
I thought the podium, oh, there's okay, all right,

1711
03:21:43,820 --> 03:21:46,180
because I don't have any other spray ones.

1712
03:21:46,560 --> 03:21:49,100
I mean, people may want to spray it to me.

1713
03:21:49,340 --> 03:21:50,880
Terrible dosia, dosia,

1714
03:22:07,330 --> 03:22:08,290
it's just that you would have to come.

1715
03:22:12,200 --> 03:22:14,800
So hello, my name is Terrell Dozier.

1716
03:22:14,960 --> 03:22:16,440
I'm a member of L.I. United.

1717
03:22:17,320 --> 03:22:20,480
And if you cannot see, I am a black man.

1718
03:22:23,120 --> 03:22:26,580
So before I start with actually my written remarks,

1719
03:22:26,580 --> 03:22:34,880
I would like to say that we heard it earlier, actually, when I believe it was a supervisor,

1720
03:22:35,060 --> 03:22:40,740
one, the supervisor came up here and said that their officers might get yelled at.

1721
03:22:41,920 --> 03:22:44,940
And I guess that's what we're talking about right now.

1722
03:22:45,260 --> 03:22:51,320
During a protest and officer might get yelled at Joshua, got yelled at earlier today.

1723
03:22:51,320 --> 03:22:59,220
And there was screaming, and he didn't look, or pay attention, and then, person walked off.

1724
03:22:59,760 --> 03:23:03,420
Like, is that what we're coming down to really, right now?

1725
03:23:03,720 --> 03:23:10,400
That we're legislating people, citizens, yelling at folks, folks yelling at legislator Lathazan

1726
03:23:10,400 --> 03:23:13,120
because he represents a greater institution.

1727
03:23:13,740 --> 03:23:17,840
Individual officers, I don't know any of these officers names, might get yell at that

1728
03:23:17,840 --> 03:23:23,500
because they represent an institution that might be oppressing people and people are angry.

1729
03:23:25,220 --> 03:23:31,640
It's clearly not a salt because code, New York State, Penal Code, 120, says a salt in

1730
03:23:31,640 --> 03:23:36,320
an official, such as a piece officer in order to prevent that person from performing.

1731
03:23:36,600 --> 03:23:41,980
His or her duties is a class of the felony, resulting in a minimum of two years and a maximum

1732
03:23:41,980 --> 03:23:42,720
of seven years.

1733
03:23:43,380 --> 03:23:44,980
So, I mean, this is what we're talking about now.

1734
03:23:46,060 --> 03:23:54,360
You know, I explicitly mentioned my race earlier because as a black person, I am insulted by this bill.

1735
03:23:55,040 --> 03:23:58,100
I was born into this skin.

1736
03:23:58,700 --> 03:24:04,500
I was born with all of the hate placed upon me that accompanies this skin.

1737
03:24:04,820 --> 03:24:09,860
I was a toddler playing in my front lawn the first time I was called the Nigger.

1738
03:24:09,860 --> 03:24:19,400
In grade school, the first time a white school authority figure told my black mother that her black sons would never take a white girl to advance on his watch.

1739
03:24:20,040 --> 03:24:35,660
A middle school or the first time I was followed in a store, a teenager, the first time I got pulled over to buy by the police while walking, because my quote-unquote tote hotels were too long, I was born into this skin.

1740
03:24:35,660 --> 03:24:43,660
And when it comes to police harassment, I consider myself one of the lucky ones because I am still here.

1741
03:24:45,220 --> 03:24:51,460
You have the audacity to make a mockery of people who have lived a lifetime of oppression

1742
03:24:51,460 --> 03:25:00,060
because of their race, religion, disability, gender, sexual orientation by reinforcing and occupation.

1743
03:25:00,060 --> 03:25:05,080
a career decision as a protected class.

1744
03:25:05,980 --> 03:25:08,640
And my understanding, as many have mentioned,

1745
03:25:08,840 --> 03:25:11,620
is that this bill gives even more rights to the police

1746
03:25:11,620 --> 03:25:14,220
than those who belong to other protected classes.

1747
03:25:14,920 --> 03:25:19,560
That if you intimidate a person due to their race,

1748
03:25:19,880 --> 03:25:21,560
they must actually have to prove that

1749
03:25:21,560 --> 03:25:23,820
waste race was part of your rationale.

1750
03:25:24,460 --> 03:25:27,660
However, in this case, if you intimidate an officer,

1751
03:25:27,660 --> 03:25:30,700
the assumption of a hate crime is given.

1752
03:25:32,020 --> 03:25:37,380
Those four officers who lied on record and was exposed by News Day,

1753
03:25:37,560 --> 03:25:40,200
at least two of the victims were black and Hispanic,

1754
03:25:40,500 --> 03:25:43,600
so can we assume that they falsified records

1755
03:25:43,600 --> 03:25:45,760
because the race of their victims?

1756
03:25:46,960 --> 03:25:50,400
And if so, will a hate crime be filed against them?

1757
03:25:50,960 --> 03:25:51,840
This is a disgrace.

1758
03:25:53,300 --> 03:25:55,960
I would like one of you to please list me

1759
03:25:55,960 --> 03:26:02,240
the policies etched in our history that has necessitated such protection for police when somehow

1760
03:26:02,240 --> 03:26:09,660
segregation, redlining, biased, imminent domain, broken windows policies, and many other historical

1761
03:26:09,660 --> 03:26:15,120
and current discriminatory policies do not rise to the level of giving the same as something

1762
03:26:15,120 --> 03:26:22,320
right to other protective classes. And the cherry on top is that you are putting this bill through

1763
03:26:22,320 --> 03:26:25,240
As a reaction to your constituents rising up,

1764
03:26:25,320 --> 03:26:28,120
to simply say, racism doesn't belong in policing.

1765
03:26:28,980 --> 03:26:31,400
Something which should be cheered, not punished.

1766
03:26:32,400 --> 03:26:38,720
The fact of matter is, is that a black man had his life choked out of him by a law enforcement officer.

1767
03:26:39,560 --> 03:26:42,240
And your community rose up to say, we too need protection,

1768
03:26:42,720 --> 03:26:46,100
and there are needed changes in policing here in Nassau County.

1769
03:26:46,780 --> 03:26:51,640
And instead of leading that change, you decide to pick this moment to hold your constituents

1770
03:26:51,640 --> 03:26:57,920
accountable after passing a police reform plan that refused to hold your officers accountable.

1771
03:26:58,680 --> 03:27:03,960
You say civilians can be sued while refusing to adopt the people's plan proposal for

1772
03:27:03,960 --> 03:27:10,380
liability insurance so that individual officers can be responsible for misconduct and civil

1773
03:27:10,920 --> 03:27:11,440
suits.

1774
03:27:12,540 --> 03:27:15,280
And I wonder about this, and I know my time is almost up, but this is last time when you

1775
03:27:15,280 --> 03:27:16,760
say I'm going to wonder about this.

1776
03:27:17,920 --> 03:27:20,100
I wonder if anyone has ever paused to think.

1777
03:27:20,100 --> 03:27:27,320
Executive Order 203 was issued as it means to address racism and racial disparities in policing.

1778
03:27:28,220 --> 03:27:34,080
And you passed a plan that your three black colleagues over there disapproved of.

1779
03:27:34,880 --> 03:27:42,500
The only people at this legislative table who have any lived experience with racism,

1780
03:27:43,860 --> 03:27:45,520
and you denied their experience.

1781
03:27:48,850 --> 03:28:09,650
And then a couple months, a couple months later you put forth a back-the-blue bill, a bill similar, a bill aimed at silencing protesters, a bill similar to that in Utah, which meant the arrest of a young woman because she stomped on a back-the-blue sign.

1782
03:28:11,310 --> 03:28:14,850
Ask your colleagues, ask your black colleagues what they think about this bill.

1783
03:28:14,850 --> 03:28:20,450
I bet many of you have already asked, I bet they have told you what they think about this bill.

1784
03:28:21,190 --> 03:28:28,150
And so when you do end up passing this bill, you can stop pretending that you care about black lives,

1785
03:28:28,570 --> 03:28:34,350
or listen to black voices, or even respect the experiences of your black colleagues.

1786
03:28:36,770 --> 03:28:40,210
I believe we all want to see ourselves and I only have 30 more seconds.

1787
03:28:40,210 --> 03:28:44,010
I believe we all want to see ourselves as heroes in life stories.

1788
03:28:44,810 --> 03:28:48,670
Well, when I look at this legislature, I see the 39th Congress,

1789
03:28:49,450 --> 03:28:54,630
the group of people who, as recompense for nearly 400 years of human ownership,

1790
03:28:55,150 --> 03:28:57,430
gave land back to the slave owners.

1791
03:28:58,790 --> 03:29:04,630
I see the all-white jury letting a guilty mob free after they lynched the man.

1792
03:29:04,630 --> 03:29:10,910
I see the White Citizens Council doing the footwork to implement the policy of segregation.

1793
03:29:11,530 --> 03:29:16,910
Each one of them in an institution to maintain the status quo to a presto-seeking

1794
03:29:16,910 --> 03:29:18,430
equality and justice.

1795
03:29:19,030 --> 03:29:24,430
You all are carrying a legacy, but it is not one of history's heroes.

1796
03:29:25,130 --> 03:29:25,870
Thank you.

1797
03:29:37,960 --> 03:29:39,360
And Scott Banks,

1798
03:29:49,630 --> 03:29:56,530
we'd have to noon presiding off San Nicolello, an already leader, Abraham's, and kind of legislators.

1799
03:29:58,210 --> 03:29:59,410
I stand here in solidarity.

1800
03:30:00,430 --> 03:30:14,370
But the opponents of this ridiculously divisive legislation. This is a bad bill which each of you should vote no.

1801
03:30:14,830 --> 03:30:24,510
And you know who else does not support this bill? The acting district attorney of National County.

1802
03:30:24,510 --> 03:30:26,270
Joyce Smith.

1803
03:30:31,960 --> 03:30:39,260
I reached out to the District Attorney when I first read this bill and I forwarded a copy of the bill.

1804
03:30:40,480 --> 03:30:45,360
Miss Smith wrote an email to me today, which I will read for the record.

1805
03:30:46,920 --> 03:30:51,860
Good morning Scott. I'm truly sorry for my delayed response.

1806
03:30:51,860 --> 03:30:57,200
If, as by a reporter, I will give a statement opposing the bill.

1807
03:30:58,260 --> 03:31:05,340
Although our legislators may have been well-intended, I have serious concerns about the

1808
03:31:05,340 --> 03:31:10,820
Constitutionality and the practical implications of this bill.

1809
03:31:11,280 --> 03:31:12,320
Thank you, Joyce.

1810
03:31:13,480 --> 03:31:19,480
This is the Chief War Enforcement Officer of Our Accounting.

1811
03:31:19,480 --> 03:31:30,000
This is an officer, a person who works with the police each and every day, and our office

1812
03:31:30,000 --> 03:31:35,560
is taking a stand against this ill-conceived legislation.

1813
03:31:37,120 --> 03:31:45,200
As the attorney and chief of the Legal Aid Society and chief public defender, I urge you

1814
03:31:45,200 --> 03:31:47,360
to reject this legislation.

1815
03:31:48,540 --> 03:31:55,100
This, as many of the speakers have stated, this bill seeks a remedy,

1816
03:31:57,990 --> 03:31:59,770
conduct that doesn't

1817
03:31:59,770 --> 03:32:01,970
exist in that so county.

1818
03:32:02,770 --> 03:32:06,670
You know, I was fortunate to sit on the PAC committee.

1819
03:32:08,290 --> 03:32:17,790
I attended over 15 meetings, attended by police commissioner writer, and then, frankly, in each

1820
03:32:17,790 --> 03:32:28,910
the meetings, the commissioner stated that during the protest, this past summer, last summer,

1821
03:32:30,750 --> 03:32:41,550
there was no damage to property. There was no violence, police were not unnecessarily

1822
03:32:41,550 --> 03:32:52,970
harassed. The protest is did what they were, and constitutionally entitled to do. What we have

1823
03:32:52,970 --> 03:33:06,390
done in this country to protest and express our views. Now, this once again, we can talk about

1824
03:33:06,390 --> 03:33:10,730
as the bills talked about remaining around that doesn't even exist.

1825
03:33:11,150 --> 03:33:14,950
But you know, the penal law of the state in New York,

1826
03:33:15,070 --> 03:33:19,550
which our clients are prosecuted on just about every day,

1827
03:33:19,950 --> 03:33:22,010
have those protections for police.

1828
03:33:22,890 --> 03:33:26,610
There are enhanced protections for a police officer

1829
03:33:26,610 --> 03:33:30,990
who is allegedly menaced by a person

1830
03:33:31,750 --> 03:33:35,350
that, normally, that menacing charge is a misdemeanor

1831
03:33:35,350 --> 03:33:40,970
for police officers, it's a defelony, a soul charge is the same way.

1832
03:33:41,430 --> 03:33:44,770
So I urge that there's no need for this particular legislation.

1833
03:33:45,170 --> 03:33:47,290
There are ample protections for the police.

1834
03:33:48,470 --> 03:33:51,290
This law is unconstitutional.

1835
03:33:52,050 --> 03:33:54,530
It is void for vagueness.

1836
03:33:54,690 --> 03:34:00,430
On the vagueness doctrine of the Constitution, a statute is void

1837
03:34:00,430 --> 03:34:07,270
If the legislative delegation of authority to judges or administrators is so extensive,

1838
03:34:08,610 --> 03:34:16,470
that will lead to arbitrary prosecutions, what does this law do? First, there are no standards

1839
03:34:16,470 --> 03:34:24,810
governing the exercise of discretion granted under the statute. The scheme that is outlined

1840
03:34:24,810 --> 03:34:47,930
In this proposed law permits and actually encourages the arbitrary and discriminatory enforcement of law, and it provides no actual and fair notice to individuals as to what actually what actual conduct is subject to significant civil liability.

1841
03:34:47,930 --> 03:34:57,630
You know, I'm thinking about this legislation, I wonder if the city of Minneapolis had this

1842
03:34:57,630 --> 03:35:01,470
war on its books, did I have a few minutes, please?

1843
03:35:03,010 --> 03:35:08,930
It is arguable that all of us a show van could have a few more minutes to come up with.

1844
03:35:09,390 --> 03:35:16,290
That all of the show van could have a private cause of action against the shouting bystanders

1845
03:35:16,290 --> 03:35:21,470
who cursed and screamed and told so that to get off his net.

1846
03:35:25,290 --> 03:35:25,950
In minutes,

1847
03:35:28,190 --> 03:35:34,610
outrageously, this law is asking our telling our county attorney,

1848
03:35:35,230 --> 03:35:44,260
you have to use Nassau County tax dollars to go after those people

1849
03:35:44,260 --> 03:35:51,060
who are trying to save the life of a human being. And you know what? Under this law,

1850
03:35:51,060 --> 03:36:00,240
show that and his and his minions would had a civil lawsuit, a vague law impremissively delegates

1851
03:36:00,240 --> 03:36:06,500
policy matters to police officers judges and juries for resolution on an ad hoc and subjective

1852
03:36:06,500 --> 03:36:13,320
basis. And once again, subjects everyone to arbitrary discrimination. This law will have a

1853
03:36:13,320 --> 03:36:20,960
chilling effect on first amendment rights. It is over broad. It doesn't define a lot of the elements

1854
03:36:20,960 --> 03:36:25,820
that somebody has to know, whether or not they didn't violate it, the law.

1855
03:36:26,400 --> 03:36:33,820
You refer to the panel law, yet there's no, it doesn't define what conduct would be subject

1856
03:36:33,820 --> 03:36:35,680
to civil liability here.

1857
03:36:38,700 --> 03:36:46,380
I would urge everybody here to, and one other thing, this irrebutable presumption.

1858
03:36:46,380 --> 03:36:52,700
You know, the law, whoever drafted this legislation should look up constitutional law,

1859
03:36:55,240 --> 03:36:55,240
okay?

1860
03:36:56,200 --> 03:37:04,820
Permanent, irrebuttled presumptions on the Supreme Court law have been long-distorted under a due-process law.

1861
03:37:05,420 --> 03:37:09,380
It's not on the due-process clause of the 50-40 amendments.

1862
03:37:10,900 --> 03:37:15,940
So, you know, I would ask in closing that this legislature,

1863
03:37:16,820 --> 03:37:22,940
Take a few moments. I understand the politics. You know, we all want to talk about supporting police.

1864
03:37:23,220 --> 03:37:27,540
And I understand we support the police. There's not about supporting police.

1865
03:37:28,200 --> 03:37:30,700
But it's supporting all of them. And they're rights.

1866
03:37:32,840 --> 03:37:37,720
My clients, the clients that my office represents,

1867
03:37:38,560 --> 03:37:41,760
cannot afford the troubled damages that are in this legislation.

1868
03:37:41,760 --> 03:37:48,820
My clients are not going to be better for attorneys who are going to be able to challenge

1869
03:37:49,300 --> 03:37:57,020
these complaints that are made before the human rights administration.

1870
03:37:57,600 --> 03:37:58,360
They'll default.

1871
03:37:58,740 --> 03:37:59,480
They'll be judgments.

1872
03:38:00,600 --> 03:38:03,040
Please put politics aside here.

1873
03:38:03,200 --> 03:38:05,040
This is not the right law.

1874
03:38:05,300 --> 03:38:11,600
This is certainly not the right time for this legislative to act and pass this

1875
03:38:12,440 --> 03:38:16,720
They'll conceive and a very bad piece of legislation.

1876
03:38:17,420 --> 03:38:18,440
Thank you so much.

1877
03:38:27,880 --> 03:38:28,380
Just a word.

1878
03:38:28,580 --> 03:38:30,340
There's probably about 40 slips left.

1879
03:38:31,440 --> 03:38:32,660
We're going to be here for the duration.

1880
03:38:33,220 --> 03:38:37,780
The point of making to you is at least half the people who have worked here before have left.

1881
03:38:38,480 --> 03:38:41,400
So there may be people in here who want to speak,

1882
03:38:42,600 --> 03:38:44,500
but have to leave at a certain time.

1883
03:38:44,820 --> 03:38:46,460
So please stay within the five minutes.

1884
03:38:46,620 --> 03:38:48,920
I mean, you can make your points within the five minutes.

1885
03:38:48,920 --> 03:38:54,200
So that everybody else has an opportunity to speak before the room empties out completely.

1886
03:38:55,720 --> 03:38:57,700
Next speaker is Paolo Peroni.

1887
03:39:05,460 --> 03:39:06,560
What's your name?

1888
03:39:07,180 --> 03:39:08,300
Your next.

1889
03:39:10,810 --> 03:39:12,150
Oh, Scott Banks?

1890
03:39:12,390 --> 03:39:14,590
Oh, he's been here for...

1891
03:39:14,590 --> 03:39:17,640
Actually, he's been here for...

1892
03:39:17,640 --> 03:39:18,620
You know, he got first one.

1893
03:39:20,140 --> 03:39:20,300
Yeah.

1894
03:39:20,300 --> 03:39:21,600
Yeah, I know I am.

1895
03:39:22,420 --> 03:39:24,740
The name is... the name is April Brown.

1896
03:39:24,740 --> 03:39:38,680
It amazes me, it amazes me that I am standing here listening to this garbage all over again, because you people decided to come up with some legislation that makes absolutely no sense.

1897
03:39:39,040 --> 03:39:47,740
People are standing before you begging, begging, please don't pass this law two day.

1898
03:39:47,740 --> 03:39:54,520
I can see people here who told me that a $25 million building was garbage.

1899
03:39:55,360 --> 03:40:04,900
But I listened to all of you. I have watched. I have watched Nassau County police cars on my street.

1900
03:40:05,700 --> 03:40:08,120
Before mobile phones became an effect.

1901
03:40:08,940 --> 03:40:12,840
And had to have a cell phone. God bless the soul. He's dead now.

1902
03:40:12,840 --> 03:40:21,320
Called the third precinct because there were five cars on my street with a man with his head a black man

1903
03:40:21,320 --> 03:40:26,620
This is long before all of these people came up and said I can't breathe

1904
03:40:26,620 --> 03:40:27,080
I

1905
03:40:27,080 --> 03:40:36,440
For you people and I say you people the stand here and you regard these people standing here. Oh, it was guns

1906
03:40:37,780 --> 03:40:42,400
Oh, it's guns watch a British show now one of them have a gun on

1907
03:40:42,840 --> 03:40:49,860
Not one of them. You won't want attention. You come up and pass a law that makes sense.

1908
03:40:50,280 --> 03:40:58,720
Every black community is by a railroad. Every black community does not have police intervention properly.

1909
03:40:59,920 --> 03:41:11,160
Every black community. I have watched my brother. My brother arrested because of police told him he had the wrong car.

1910
03:41:12,950 --> 03:41:15,250
This is going way back in

1911
03:41:17,620 --> 03:41:19,960
turn back to yo MTV rap

1912
03:41:22,200 --> 03:41:26,940
so we're okay. There's something

1913
03:41:27,740 --> 03:41:29,340
Understand it

1914
03:41:29,340 --> 03:41:31,200
Hazel doses in the back

1915
03:41:31,200 --> 03:41:33,640
Okay, Charlie Chisel. I

1916
03:41:36,160 --> 03:41:37,160
was a little girl

1917
03:41:39,850 --> 03:41:40,830
I'm up here

1918
03:41:40,830 --> 03:41:48,760
protesting because all of the people who protested from Newcastle are now dead

1919
03:41:49,420 --> 03:41:57,460
But you people, Mr. McKenvin, I watched you from over four hours, laughing and talking.

1920
03:41:58,780 --> 03:42:00,540
Laughing and talking.

1921
03:42:01,460 --> 03:42:03,500
I would have been thrown out of here.

1922
03:42:06,110 --> 03:42:07,890
Okay, that's what would have happened.

1923
03:42:08,210 --> 03:42:10,890
I'm here because I'm hearing people tell me,

1924
03:42:11,210 --> 03:42:12,950
we have to do half the vote today.

1925
03:42:13,450 --> 03:42:16,570
Why? Why do you have to vote today?

1926
03:42:18,990 --> 03:42:21,090
And he here has come up to this microphone

1927
03:42:21,090 --> 03:42:28,030
and said, this is not a good bill, not good at all, poor Josh's been beat up, turned

1928
03:42:28,030 --> 03:42:34,690
ram, slapped up, every which way balloons, the Allen you don't get away with, you don't get

1929
03:42:34,690 --> 03:42:37,850
away with it, you know I speak the truth,

1930
03:42:40,380 --> 03:42:43,440
understand Josh when they tell you to look at him,

1931
03:42:43,680 --> 03:42:44,480
look at him,

1932
03:42:48,060 --> 03:42:54,100
eat what you, I mean you got to reap what you sow, that's like reality, Mr.

1933
03:42:54,100 --> 03:42:58,840
I can't see that well anymore, but I make it very clear.

1934
03:42:59,880 --> 03:43:00,740
You're in charge.

1935
03:43:02,000 --> 03:43:04,080
Do you are in charge?

1936
03:43:04,580 --> 03:43:07,820
Why did you put this bill before this entire committee?

1937
03:43:09,220 --> 03:43:11,820
Would you know it's completely out of sorts?

1938
03:43:13,240 --> 03:43:18,360
Beyond out of sorts, there are a whole lot more things that need to go on than this stupid bill.

1939
03:43:18,360 --> 03:43:21,670
But more things,

1940
03:43:24,100 --> 03:43:29,200
I should be able to call the third precinct and have something done when I call them.

1941
03:43:30,480 --> 03:43:31,640
That doesn't happen.

1942
03:43:33,040 --> 03:43:37,940
You all talked about redlining. My parents were just fine by redlining.

1943
03:43:39,260 --> 03:43:42,360
Okay? My father was called a nigger.

1944
03:43:43,680 --> 03:43:48,460
Okay, and he was like skin and had a pony tail.

1945
03:43:51,320 --> 03:43:52,440
Get a job.

1946
03:43:54,910 --> 03:43:56,530
Not a social service job.

1947
03:43:57,650 --> 03:43:58,830
Not out here.

1948
03:43:59,430 --> 03:44:00,770
Because this was the suburbs.

1949
03:44:03,100 --> 03:44:05,660
Okay, everybody behind me.

1950
03:44:05,940 --> 03:44:06,940
And I mean everybody.

1951
03:44:07,480 --> 03:44:10,360
People say to me, oh my god, April, who are you?

1952
03:44:10,420 --> 03:44:11,500
Why do you do that?

1953
03:44:11,660 --> 03:44:13,140
Yes, I am a racist.

1954
03:44:15,180 --> 03:44:16,460
How dare you?

1955
03:44:16,520 --> 03:44:18,420
How dare you?

1956
03:44:18,420 --> 03:44:26,220
How dare you sit here waste my time going over something that is not needed.

1957
03:44:26,800 --> 03:44:30,740
Not necessary. These guys have a job to do.

1958
03:44:31,680 --> 03:44:36,260
Not stand up here. I'm sorry I did see a woman over here.

1959
03:44:37,020 --> 03:44:40,840
Okay. How dare you waste everybody's time.

1960
03:44:41,780 --> 03:44:45,000
Look at that clock. I've been paying attention.

1961
03:44:45,000 --> 03:44:56,610
We didn't start on time start on time that's a dog on Shane and you're gonna take a vote and tell me

1962
03:44:56,610 --> 03:44:58,970
Oh, I have a whole stack of things here

1963
03:45:00,000 --> 03:45:15,970
I didn't speak up. Miss Ronny would be speaking before me. I speak up. I speak up all the time. People say, oh, my God, April, don't do that. Oh, my God, be careful. You may get arrested today.

1964
03:45:18,110 --> 03:45:22,130
Not going to be arrested. I will not be silenced.

1965
03:45:25,060 --> 03:45:30,440
After vote for this bill, I don't have to stand here and beg you when I put you there.

1966
03:45:38,700 --> 03:45:41,120
Quite for a very, very long time.

1967
03:45:42,220 --> 03:45:47,120
I have been out there, and I have been fighting the fight with people.

1968
03:45:47,660 --> 03:45:48,760
It was going to be quiet.

1969
03:45:49,140 --> 03:45:50,380
People are like, you going to do this?

1970
03:45:50,600 --> 03:45:52,200
Oh, Lord, it was going to say something.

1971
03:45:53,000 --> 03:45:55,420
But April is sick and tired.

1972
03:45:56,140 --> 03:46:01,180
Sick and tired of watching you make decisions for me.

1973
03:46:01,900 --> 03:46:03,560
That are unnecessary.

1974
03:46:05,060 --> 03:46:07,800
Complete and totally unnecessary.

1975
03:46:07,800 --> 03:46:15,340
Mary. When I see five cop cars and they have a teenager, we just had in between the

1976
03:46:15,340 --> 03:46:19,580
curbside. Oh, we have bells in block. That's very expensive.

1977
03:46:21,940 --> 03:46:23,660
And the cops tell me, oh,

1978
03:46:23,700 --> 03:46:30,280
you're in my space? Not a problem. I'm back and up. I'm back and up. And I'm calling

1979
03:46:30,280 --> 03:46:35,980
a third precinct. Does take five cops to put down one teenager on a bicycle,

1980
03:46:38,180 --> 03:46:39,020
on a bicycle.

1981
03:46:39,020 --> 03:46:43,100
This happened over 20 years ago.

1982
03:46:43,880 --> 03:46:46,920
It's still happening today.

1983
03:46:48,140 --> 03:46:49,080
They don't circle.

1984
03:46:50,080 --> 03:46:53,740
They being the helicopters don't circle your neighborhoods.

1985
03:46:55,380 --> 03:46:58,500
Chuck Schumer came down to the town of North Hamstead.

1986
03:46:59,860 --> 03:47:03,080
So that helicopters would no longer fly over Great Nick.

1987
03:47:04,460 --> 03:47:06,240
But they fly over my neighborhood.

1988
03:47:07,540 --> 03:47:11,020
The airplanes fly over my neighborhood now.

1989
03:47:13,420 --> 03:47:16,360
After listening to this garbage from you,

1990
03:47:18,590 --> 03:47:21,030
we have to protect our law enforcement.

1991
03:47:21,530 --> 03:47:27,350
On the side of the cars, I have made sure two protect and serve.

1992
03:47:27,970 --> 03:47:31,590
Period! Period! You were asked.

1993
03:47:31,910 --> 03:47:34,470
Did you want to join or not? You had to take...

1994
03:47:41,710 --> 03:47:43,250
You know what I mean?

1995
03:47:43,370 --> 03:47:44,370
You're out of April.

1996
03:47:47,590 --> 03:47:49,370
Got to sit here and beg you.

1997
03:47:50,270 --> 03:47:51,510
Hope please don't do that.

1998
03:47:51,930 --> 03:47:53,770
We don't want you to do that.

1999
03:47:54,510 --> 03:47:55,110
That's garbage.

2000
03:47:55,510 --> 03:47:57,850
I've listened to a lot of people come up to this podium.

2001
03:47:58,430 --> 03:48:00,330
A lot of people I do know.

2002
03:48:03,520 --> 03:48:06,060
One that doesn't have to be elected back in.

2003
03:48:13,810 --> 03:48:14,950
Get it right.

2004
03:48:16,700 --> 03:48:21,120
Always agree with what you have to say with anybody else to say.

2005
03:48:21,400 --> 03:48:24,320
I got a lot of police officers in my family.

2006
03:48:25,920 --> 03:48:36,770
and you can stare into space all you want there the hand comes to there they eat food just like I eat food

2007
03:48:39,020 --> 03:48:50,340
but they don't want to hear me yell and scream and tell them this is not right and I will continue to yell and scream and tell you if it's not right

2008
03:48:50,340 --> 03:48:57,870
we don't have to beg we have to get you the hell out of office that's how it works

2009
03:49:06,030 --> 03:49:07,390
Hello, Peroni.

2010
03:49:11,700 --> 03:49:12,300
Good afternoon.

2011
03:49:13,860 --> 03:49:17,020
Plus button for full disclosure.

2012
03:49:17,140 --> 03:49:17,740
I'm legislator.

2013
03:49:17,920 --> 03:49:19,620
Lafazans opponent in the upcoming election

2014
03:49:21,700 --> 03:49:22,900
just

2015
03:49:26,330 --> 03:49:28,250
just a little over a year ago.

2016
03:49:28,370 --> 03:49:28,690
Legislator.

2017
03:49:28,930 --> 03:49:31,350
Lafazan was at a Black Lives Matter rally on Jericho term.

2018
03:49:31,510 --> 03:49:31,650
I can.

2019
03:49:31,710 --> 03:49:32,530
Is this political?

2020
03:49:32,650 --> 03:49:33,030
I'm sorry.

2021
03:49:33,230 --> 03:49:35,870
I've seen other in the past other political kind is coming here.

2022
03:49:36,250 --> 03:49:38,650
And the presiding officer every time would say, hey,

2023
03:49:38,650 --> 03:49:39,310
is this political?

2024
03:49:39,650 --> 03:49:41,490
So please, let's be fair here, okay?

2025
03:49:41,930 --> 03:49:42,490
That's all.

2026
03:49:42,490 --> 03:49:46,790
Well, I can, I can, you call one time that I, you know, my political opponent.

2027
03:49:46,990 --> 03:49:49,750
I'm not, it's not, everything is not about you copal, okay?

2028
03:49:49,950 --> 03:49:52,450
All right, now please, where's the, where's the presiding officer?

2029
03:49:52,810 --> 03:49:54,090
You, you, you need to calm down.

2030
03:49:54,570 --> 03:49:55,590
You need to calm down.

2031
03:49:55,710 --> 03:49:57,470
No sir, you need to calm down, okay?

2032
03:49:57,590 --> 03:49:59,490
Please don't tell me I should be.

2033
03:50:03,350 --> 03:50:05,910
I'm speaking on legislative laughs in his character.

2034
03:50:06,070 --> 03:50:07,210
Yes, but it's not political.

2035
03:50:07,270 --> 03:50:08,310
You know what, you know what?

2036
03:50:08,310 --> 03:50:11,070
I think, I think that the point is correct.

2037
03:50:11,070 --> 03:50:17,330
If you have something to say about the particular bill, please feel free to go ahead.

2038
03:50:17,970 --> 03:50:21,730
If you want to make a political speech here, I think that's inappropriate.

2039
03:50:22,570 --> 03:50:23,390
So you decide.

2040
03:50:23,490 --> 03:50:24,650
You want to talk about the bill?

2041
03:50:24,930 --> 03:50:26,390
Sure, you're welcome, too.

2042
03:50:26,910 --> 03:50:28,690
I'm just speaking on Legislator-Lafzett.

2043
03:50:28,690 --> 03:50:29,810
That's not appropriate.

2044
03:50:30,050 --> 03:50:30,310
Sorry.

2045
03:50:30,510 --> 03:50:31,050
Thank you.

2046
03:50:35,510 --> 03:50:36,630
Thank you.

2047
03:50:39,000 --> 03:50:41,580
The next would be Thomas Williams.

2048
03:50:45,890 --> 03:50:48,230
This is William's go ahead, please.

2049
03:50:49,810 --> 03:50:50,570
Good afternoon.

2050
03:50:51,670 --> 03:50:52,690
Just for some background.

2051
03:50:54,790 --> 03:51:00,350
I have been involved in government in Nassau County,

2052
03:51:00,710 --> 03:51:04,130
either village or county level for 46 years.

2053
03:51:04,910 --> 03:51:09,070
I've been an attorney for over 45 years.

2054
03:51:11,100 --> 03:51:15,500
I only learned of this local law the other day when my

2055
03:51:15,500 --> 03:51:23,160
son who's on the faculty of the University of Arkansas, called me and told me it's on the

2056
03:51:23,160 --> 03:51:31,700
news down there. I've known Fred, burned in for over 30 years, and my son told me she

2057
03:51:31,700 --> 03:51:37,120
Fred's involves, I call Fred, and fortunately, he was able to

2058
03:51:37,120 --> 03:51:42,340
forward to me the proposed local law, et cetera.

2059
03:51:44,360 --> 03:51:44,680
Now,

2060
03:51:46,720 --> 03:51:51,500
I have been at various times periodically involved

2061
03:51:51,500 --> 03:51:56,400
with this legislature since it was created in 1995.

2062
03:51:59,310 --> 03:52:02,750
I'm fairly familiar with much of your legislation.

2063
03:52:02,750 --> 03:52:09,870
I was ten years a commissioner of the National County Civil Service Commission.

2064
03:52:10,510 --> 03:52:23,410
I've read this law and in my humble legal opinion, it is the most pernicious bill this body has ever proposed.

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I don't, I don't know, legislator, Lazaran, or Laphazan, I don't know you back, I don't know if you're at a attorney, are you?

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Okay, then somebody else wrote this bill.

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And I have two names for it. One is the police officer, financial aid bill of 2021,

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one,

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or the Frankenstein bill, because it takes a piece from here, a piece from there, and slaps

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it together in an incredibly undressment-like manner,

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I'm particularly bothered by the fact

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that it says, there shall be an irrebuttable presumption, the so-charisment, menacing,

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this fault, etc.

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Now, I don't know how many of you are lawyers. I know a few of you

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why. No carry is. I know riches or all of you is not here right now. Mr. Muscurrell

2076
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or I think you are,

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any of you who are attorneys know there is no such irrefutable presumption

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except in housing discrimination. Otherwise there is none because what an irrefutable presumption

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does is negates the necessity to show men's rare, or as we commonly know it, intent.

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You just, it just puts on top of this statute for this local law that whoever curses

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at a cop is presumed guilty.

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Now, you, who are attorneys know that 50 years ago, the United States Supreme Court, said

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the use of profanity, even in calling police officers, file names, is a correct exercise

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of a first amendment freedom of speech, and that a police officer has to have a thicker

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skin than the average member of the general public.

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You folks know perfectly well if you have any legal training or have had any legal

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advice.

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This bill does not pass constitutional must.

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It will be if you pass it, it will be challenged and in the federal district court, in

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the East and District of New York, it will be thrown out as unconstitutional.

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The second circuit in Manhattan will uphold that, both as a three-band power, three-person

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panel, or on-bomk, and then the county might be as so ill-advised as to a petitioned

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the Supreme Court for a rid of tertiary, and I predict that the Supreme Court will

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merely dismiss the application for the rid. And you will have spent hundreds of thousands

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of dollars of taxpayer money to defend an unconstitutional law. Thank you.

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Because you probably don't understand the history of this institution.

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I've been a part of this institution for almost 20 years.

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I'm here to tell you on both sides.

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And I've defended it when democratic opponents have come

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to challenge my Republican colleagues.

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We have never, never allowed an opponent to come and speak

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while describing he's an opponent to one of our colleagues.

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Because it could be the perception could be that it is political and nature.

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I have not seen you here, and the last four years

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is Mr. Ladazvans had been here.

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So I'm to say that could be in turn

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interpreted as political in nature.

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We have not allowed it.

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We are not saying that you cannot speak.

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What we are saying is you cannot speak

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in the political nature, which you have come before us today.

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If you want to preside your statement to us,

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we'll be happy to take your statement

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and incorporate this part of the record.

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But I think that's been the standard.

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He said before he wanted to speak to Mr. Lafazan's character.

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Can I speak as a constituent of legislator Lafazan?

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If you want to speak about it, look.

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I

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mean look.

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I'm going to say about his character.

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No, that's not what we do, so if you want to speak about the bill, if you want to speak about something else, go ahead

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You know, at the time is love. All right. Thank you

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I'm speaking about the bill there. There is mention

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Okay, all right

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Thank you

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That guy's guys

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Okay, I can get tons of democratic count count get his down here to talk about you. So there you're like why will we want to do that?

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I got to pick up my kids come on come on all right

2130
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Good afternoon everybody,

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could you hear me? I'm sorry. Thank you. In August of 2022, two months after the governor's executive order 203 was issued, which proclaimed the Black Lives Matter, and within three days of the executive order's guidance for the institution of police reform, this body saw fit to pass legislation to include first responders as a protected class.

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In direct disregard of the definitions of a protected class established by the Civil Rights Act of 1964 confirmed in the 1968 act and expanded by the federal hate crimes prevention act of 2009 in New York State Human Rights laws.

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Here's a copy of my statement as well.

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This body saw a fit to expand the definition of protected class contrary to federal and state statutes and jurisprudence.

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Now, this body seeks to double down on its impromiscible acts by encode-

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Opposing civil liability for those who are deemed to have harassed, managed, assaulted, or injured an individual

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due to such individuals protected class status as first responders. This body has not established

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a compelling interest exists in this county, and quite to the contrary, both the county executive

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herself and the police commissioner himself have stated that no such compelling interest exists.

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Well, this bill claims that it is, quote, the judgment of this legislature, that the recent

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widespread pattern of physical attacks and intimidation directed at the police has undermined

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the civil liberties of the community at large, and the bill states, quote, that this

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legislature notes with extreme concern that, in many jurisdictions, outbreaks of destructive

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looting and lawlessness have deliberately targeted and victimized law enforcement officers

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04:00:52,680 --> 04:00:58,660
and other first responders, it ignores the statements of the county executive and police commissioner

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04:00:58,660 --> 04:01:06,020
who both repeatedly stated that the demonstrations in this county have all been peaceful.

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This bill contains no clearly defined prohibitions. It imposes civil liability, regardless

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of a criminal prosecution being brought. And then at the same time, chooses to define harassment,

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menacing and assault, as those terms are defined in New York's penal law for criminal

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prosecution. It also borrows its definition of right from a federal criminal statute.

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This bill constitutes content discrimination and the official suppression of ideas. It makes

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it an irrebutable presumption that such harassment menacing assault or injury is motivated

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by such individual status as a first responder, if that individual is either in uniform or clearly

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04:01:53,340 --> 04:01:55,340
identified as a first responder.

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This fills irrebutable presumption guarantees that a determination is automatic and not

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04:02:01,920 --> 04:02:05,060
based upon actual, objective evidence.

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A valuation of axelage to have been harassing and menacing, however, require that determinations

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of based upon facts and evidence and an evaluation of reasonableness under the circumstances.

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That is what the law provides. Monetary damages are imposed no matter where, when or how

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these undefined acts are alleged to have taken place. Only circumscribing acts taken when

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Nigeria occurs in the course of a riot, as justification for imposing travel damages.

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But that is the only specificity within this amorphous film.

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According to this bill, if an individual is being beaten and assaulted by an officer,

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that individual is not permitted to protect him or herself, nor even speak out in protest,

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for that will subject the individual to civil sanctions, regardless if a state-county

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prosecutor deems the act to be justified in self-defense.

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The first amendment generally prevents government from prescribing speech or even expressive

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conduct, because of disapproval of the ideas expressed.

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This bill does not even address content.

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It makes it an irrobotable presumption that speech directed and an identifiable first responder

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is prescribed and subjected to punitive damages,

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04:03:31,980 --> 04:03:37,140
a means to continue to silence and suppress future speech.

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This bill is precisely what the First Amendment forbids.

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As stated by Justices in this United States District,

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federal courts, individuals may commit heinous acts

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04:03:52,280 --> 04:03:56,120
without warning and with little prompting.

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But under the First Amendment, the fear of such spontaneous attacks, without more, cannot override individual's rights to freedom of expression.

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Please do the right thing.

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Mary Beth Guntler.

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04:04:34,240 --> 04:04:34,800
Good afternoon.

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I'm Mary Beth Guitler, and I'm the Social Justice Coordinator for the Long Island Area Council of Unitarian Universalist congregations.

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And I'm also a member of Long Island Advocates for Police Accountability.

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I'll be brief. Many folks have already made these points.

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But I think it's important to remember a few basic things.

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A protected class historically, the importance of it,

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04:04:58,200 --> 04:04:59,340
can't be underestimated.

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It's based on immutable characteristics of race, ethnicity, disability, sexual orientation, gender identity.

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Not a profession, not a job you took, not based on a uniform you can choose to put on or take off.

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04:05:16,440 --> 04:05:21,100
This legislation would open the door to dangerous suppression of free speech.

2190
04:05:21,580 --> 04:05:26,880
It's up to the first responders to determine what is annoying, harassment, or menacing.

2191
04:05:27,700 --> 04:05:33,980
This violates the spirit of due process, one of our foundational rights, is enshrined in the Constitution.

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The third point is, as many people have said, this legislation is not needed.

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Police are already protected in existing legislation, and county executive current and

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04:05:46,820 --> 04:05:51,780
commissioner writer both went on the record in describing last summer's actions after

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04:05:51,780 --> 04:05:54,320
the murder of George Floyd as peaceful.

2196
04:05:55,320 --> 04:06:01,260
And finally, like Scott said, just an example of what might happen with such legislation.

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Think about those citizens trying to save the life of George Floyd, calling out to those officers to check his pulse, to get up off of his neck, trying to interrupt a murder.

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They could all be sued. Think about that. Is that what you want to do here today?

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Thank you.

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04:06:28,980 --> 04:06:30,000
Victoria Hadbey.

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04:06:49,060 --> 04:06:49,840
Thank you.

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I'm just basically a white middle class citizen of this country.

2203
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I am here for a different type of bias, the political division of Democrats in their republicans.

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This amendment could suppress one political side views by the responders against, by the response against them.

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04:07:19,660 --> 04:07:28,540
To think how I stand for Democrats who protest for their rights, many days, yet, here I have two Democratic legislation

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sitting before me, trying to pass in a moment that would allow for more suppression, and it feels like a slot in my face.

2207
04:07:39,280 --> 04:07:42,080
Newsday wrote about this very article.

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Newsday reports the bill being considered by the National County Legislature could make police officers,

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and other first responders, a protected class under the Human Rights Law,

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which currently buys discrimination based on race, religion, gender, and orientation.

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No other professions are protected under the human rights law.

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This bill would allow a lawyer for the Long Island County

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to sue protestors on behalf of officers and call for fines of up to 25,000

2214
04:08:14,720 --> 04:08:18,520
for anyone who arrests, menaces, or hinges in officer.

2215
04:08:19,060 --> 04:08:24,880
The amount would be doubled if the defending behavior in the course of the

2216
04:08:24,880 --> 04:08:28,840
in the course of participating in a riot, the bill says,

2217
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while it sounds good, and we wish for no officers to be heard,

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this will grant broad authoritarian powers to first respond as an unintended consequence.

2219
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While based on the belief that a first responder wouldn't lie,

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will show no bias in regards to how their injuries occurred.

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I

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mean, we could basically say, did they occur under a false arrest and the police

2223
04:09:00,410 --> 04:09:01,570
officers say?

2224
04:09:02,470 --> 04:09:02,890
The opposite.

2225
04:09:03,470 --> 04:09:08,590
This recently actually happened when the police officer ran the car and used the said

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that the defendant ran into him.

2227
04:09:11,210 --> 04:09:13,870
The officer wanted a hospital claiming neck injuries.

2228
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Did the first responders use the aggressive cat this first?

2229
04:09:18,590 --> 04:09:23,430
How this amendment would even be considered under the human rights law as a complete affront

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to all human rights activists in our first amendment.

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If we had data to back up how first respond to injuries fall under the Human Rights

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Law, we could all make informed decisions on how this amendment

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04:09:40,010 --> 04:09:43,710
addendum applies to the existing law and to them.

2234
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We just cannot add two laws that we deemed to use without any brief questions

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04:09:50,050 --> 04:09:53,050
of how it applies to the existing law.

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Otherwise, all laws were they applied to, specific matter or not, could be then changed to suit the party bringing it forward.

2237
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The first responders have laws on the boats to protect them, so why and more?

2238
04:10:08,070 --> 04:10:12,350
Not based on anything for one side's definition of our employees.

2239
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This proposal also assumes we don't have bias against anyone group.

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We also have no direction on who will decide if someone can get sued.

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In enacting this, it would open the doors for all states and counties.

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To use current laws and allow for the changing of our basic writers free speech for war.

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This is not for NASA legislation to decide but needs to be brought before our highest court to decide the Supreme Court

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to see if it leads on our first amendment rights.

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04:10:46,870 --> 04:10:51,010
Laura Karen, I am pleading for you to veto this proposal.

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Karen's against the proposal biased against the group with all protests we have encountered

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04:10:59,390 --> 04:11:04,510
on the other page here we need to ask was the response to one group equal to the response

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of another group.

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Did the first respondous actions effectively influence the response against themselves or would

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tax totally unprovoked, were stronger or less tactics used against one group?

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There are many videos in photo showing the different response against each group of protestors on the web.

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So now we have to ask if bias against some by the first responders warrant that they then get to receive compensation,

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based on their own responses to the protestors.

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04:11:36,290 --> 04:11:48,790
I have tons of videos showing all that has gone on at the Belmont train station week after week after week that they've been there for almost a year now

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Okay, and the views I took

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From them, we're doing my rights as a Democrat

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Okay, meanwhile, I was always called the educator. I was the one to had to leave

2258
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So, this is something we have to question, we can't just assume that everybody is fair

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and every first responder is fair, because it's not.

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I had an ambulance in front of a truck rally, okay, now it's a county with their lights

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04:12:19,330 --> 04:12:21,190
on flashing this and that.

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04:12:21,190 --> 04:12:25,810
You know how to granddle it, pass away from drowning and we couldn't get an ambulance to

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04:12:25,810 --> 04:12:26,730
our house?

2264
04:12:27,410 --> 04:12:32,330
How do you think this made me feel watching them sitting there in the middle of a bank?

2265
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In conclusion, passing this will be setting a precedent, leading us on a very slippery, legal

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slope, which we may never recover from, a further push away from democracy.

2267
04:12:47,180 --> 04:12:53,360
Nobody wishes for first respond to this, and I am not advocating for violence against

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04:12:53,360 --> 04:12:55,860
first responders, but to this proposal.

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04:12:57,120 --> 04:13:01,640
We need to allow for the people of this country to have recourse on this law.

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We need to know the force against protestors will be equal, and that the tactics used against one group is the same for all protestors as not to cause some protestors to get frustrated and attack the first responders.

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Before we can do anything, this must get answered as we do not give first amendment rights to one group without giving the same rights to another.

2272
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Thank you very much.

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04:13:36,540 --> 04:13:38,100
Susan Goderer.

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04:13:59,820 --> 04:14:05,800
Thank you so much for giving all this time to this. My name is Susan

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Goderer. I'm the director of the NASA County New York Civil Liberties Union. The

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first start talking about the bill. I just want to address some of the abysmal level

2277
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of dialogue that has gone on around all of this policing stuff. First of all, being pro police

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reform is not being anti-police, and I think that any bill or legislation, or anybody who

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has been elected to create policy that buys into the degradation of our discourse, assuming

2280
04:14:39,020 --> 04:14:45,740
that all voters are stupid, and all policies should be based on public regulations and

2281
04:14:45,740 --> 04:14:51,540
electioneering should not be sitting in those seats, and so let's just try to raise the

2282
04:14:51,540 --> 04:14:52,380
a lot a little bit.

2283
04:14:52,380 --> 04:14:52,940
Shall we?

2284
04:14:55,440 --> 04:14:59,680
I've heard logic propose that if somebody proposes a piece of legislation.

2285
04:15:00,000 --> 04:15:27,060
That is protection for police. It immediately means if you don't vote for it, you don't want to protect the police. Again, can we raise the dialogue please? And can we also please acknowledge the fact that a lot of this legislation that looks very similar around the country, I'd love to ask the unions who their public relations firm is on a national level. So let's keep that in mind, okay?

2286
04:15:27,060 --> 04:15:33,320
while we're talking about this particular piece of legislation and who really wrote it and where did it come from.

2287
04:15:33,800 --> 04:15:41,480
Okay. So to begin with, the preamble of this legislation is unbelievable. I don't know how many of you have read it.

2288
04:15:42,160 --> 04:15:52,120
It sets up the rationale for this legislation using incendiary language making references to outbreaks of destructive rioting and lawlessness.

2289
04:15:52,120 --> 04:15:59,080
And it's tax on police, asserting that these attacks are intended to hinder the police from

2290
04:15:59,080 --> 04:16:04,180
safeguarding society, from chaos, and mass violent.

2291
04:16:06,060 --> 04:16:06,240
Okay?

2292
04:16:06,920 --> 04:16:13,080
I don't know where any of you are living, but I haven't seen it not to mention what other speakers

2293
04:16:13,080 --> 04:16:17,900
have pointed out here that the county executive and the police commissioner and many of you

2294
04:16:17,900 --> 04:16:20,160
have talked about the peaceful protests.

2295
04:16:20,160 --> 04:16:24,160
So, hair on fire, Josh, I don't think so, okay?

2296
04:16:25,700 --> 04:16:30,600
It's a deliberate hyperbolic attempt to set a dystopian landscape that's ridiculous.

2297
04:16:31,240 --> 04:16:36,380
So we would ask legislator Loughes on another sponsors of this bill to present measurable

2298
04:16:36,380 --> 04:16:42,100
data to justify the need for the bill, specifically in National County, not around the country,

2299
04:16:42,580 --> 04:16:44,700
not in other cities, in National County.

2300
04:16:44,880 --> 04:16:50,100
So we can be confident that the people governing the county and proposing public policy

2301
04:16:50,100 --> 04:16:56,680
here are now wasting our time and are doing it in a mature, grown-up fashion.

2302
04:17:02,900 --> 04:17:10,320
Secondly, this adds tools to the policing toolkit regarding consensual threat during

2303
04:17:10,320 --> 04:17:11,880
interactions with the police.

2304
04:17:12,220 --> 04:17:17,680
As if the existence of a batana gun in a taser were not enough, now there is the looming

2305
04:17:17,680 --> 04:17:20,880
threat of a civil claim brought into the mix.

2306
04:17:20,880 --> 04:17:23,820
This county is already made it abundantly clear.

2307
04:17:24,120 --> 04:17:26,200
It is not interested in police accountability.

2308
04:17:26,840 --> 04:17:32,680
And now to tip the scales of power even further, instead of using your time to legislate

2309
04:17:32,680 --> 04:17:38,460
checks and balances and help people in the communities and create some equity in this

2310
04:17:38,460 --> 04:17:38,860
county.

2311
04:17:39,320 --> 04:17:44,900
You've decided to use your time in this way for legislation that will increase the power

2312
04:17:44,900 --> 04:17:48,080
of the police and decrease their accountability.

2313
04:17:51,860 --> 04:17:53,060
Thank you.

2314
04:17:53,380 --> 04:17:56,200
We have real problems here in Nassau

2315
04:17:56,200 --> 04:17:56,760
County.

2316
04:17:57,120 --> 04:17:59,600
This is a complete waste of everyone's time,

2317
04:17:59,600 --> 04:18:00,180
seriously.

2318
04:18:01,100 --> 04:18:02,740
And it's quite embarrassing actually.

2319
04:18:02,760 --> 04:18:04,600
You're making spectacles of yourself.

2320
04:18:05,140 --> 04:18:07,100
I've been getting calls from around the county.

2321
04:18:07,460 --> 04:18:08,820
What does this mean?

2322
04:18:09,120 --> 04:18:11,980
Does it mean if I put my finger at a police officer during the

2323
04:18:11,980 --> 04:18:15,680
speech and call out a specific behavior by a police officer?

2324
04:18:15,680 --> 04:18:21,740
my harassing him. Does that fall under one of these codes? If the public doesn't understand

2325
04:18:21,740 --> 04:18:27,640
what the legislation means, then the only effect the legislation has is to create a permanent

2326
04:18:27,640 --> 04:18:34,240
veil of threat over every interaction, whether or not it's ever enforced. As soon as you pass

2327
04:18:34,240 --> 04:18:40,520
this bill, that threat now exists over every interaction. It's a permanent veil of threat

2328
04:18:40,520 --> 04:18:45,060
along with all the other threats that come with a police interaction.

2329
04:18:45,800 --> 04:18:50,720
So regarding the financial damages, some say that damages will fit the offense and will not

2330
04:18:50,720 --> 04:18:54,220
always be in the state of range of 25,000 to 50,000.

2331
04:18:54,380 --> 04:18:59,660
That is not comforting to people who get a civil suit thrown at them and have to hire attorneys

2332
04:18:59,660 --> 04:19:04,640
for months and months and months, and that will be financially catastrophic for them.

2333
04:19:05,040 --> 04:19:09,860
So again, I would like to ask, or I would hope during the debate, I would actually like

2334
04:19:09,860 --> 04:19:16,600
ask now if any of the sponsors of the bill or Josh could give us an example of behavior

2335
04:19:16,600 --> 04:19:19,340
that would result in a suit.

2336
04:19:20,940 --> 04:19:24,380
Because if you can't, then you shouldn't be voting for the legislation.

2337
04:19:30,160 --> 04:19:34,900
If the public doesn't know the parameters, it's not an okay law.

2338
04:19:35,540 --> 04:19:38,880
Can any of you give me an example of what might get them into trouble?

2339
04:19:39,480 --> 04:19:42,280
Can you give them an example of what might get them into trouble?

2340
04:19:44,660 --> 04:19:45,100
Anybody?

2341
04:19:47,300 --> 04:19:47,500
No?

2342
04:19:48,220 --> 04:19:48,240
Okay.

2343
04:19:50,060 --> 04:19:50,240
Okay.

2344
04:19:52,920 --> 04:19:57,140
So on that note, the other thing is, I'm not sure exactly how we're supposed to find out

2345
04:19:57,140 --> 04:19:59,100
how many civil suits have been thrown at people.

2346
04:19:59,560 --> 04:20:01,160
Again, transparency issues.

2347
04:20:01,520 --> 04:20:04,800
I'm sure the answer is we have to go digging in the courts to find out.

2348
04:20:05,160 --> 04:20:07,600
So much for accountability and transparency, again,

2349
04:20:08,040 --> 04:20:08,500
Nassau County.

2350
04:20:09,180 --> 04:20:14,020
So I ask one more time for measurable data to be presented on the mass violence

2351
04:20:14,020 --> 04:20:17,400
and chaos that is being perpetrated all over the county.

2352
04:20:17,960 --> 04:20:20,540
The police are currently being prevented from putting down.

2353
04:20:20,880 --> 04:20:26,020
If you can't provide that, then please stop wasting everybody's time.

2354
04:20:33,100 --> 04:20:37,400
Can I pass it to Fred Brewington or...

2355
04:20:37,400 --> 04:20:42,160
I thought I thought Mr. Brewington wanted to wait until the end, but he can go now if you want to.

2356
04:20:43,120 --> 04:20:43,960
Whatever you want.

2357
04:20:53,590 --> 04:20:55,490
It's a shake first,

2358
04:21:13,530 --> 04:21:19,170
you abuse us, and then you complain about the way we fight back.

2359
04:21:23,300 --> 04:21:28,160
You claim that we are anti-police, and we are not,

2360
04:21:31,670 --> 04:21:33,170
I sure wish all the seats up there

2361
04:21:33,170 --> 04:21:37,690
were filled, but I don't have control over that, you have control.

2362
04:21:40,870 --> 04:21:46,330
My fellow lawyers up there, I'm going to take you back to constitutional law 101, just for a

2363
04:21:46,330 --> 04:21:47,570
little bit in a couple seconds.

2364
04:21:48,950 --> 04:21:53,570
But I want to stand here as a life member of the NAACP.

2365
04:21:54,810 --> 04:21:59,070
The most feared and most revered civil rights organization in the world.

2366
04:22:02,260 --> 04:22:06,180
And Mr. Lafazane, I don't think you and I have really had a good conversation.

2367
04:22:07,260 --> 04:22:12,580
I would cherish that because I'll try to help school you a little bit and help you clean

2368
04:22:12,580 --> 04:22:17,800
the stuff that's on your shoes that you stepped in, clean that off.

2369
04:22:17,800 --> 04:22:27,280
Because what you've created for everybody here in Nassau County is a step back in time.

2370
04:22:28,180 --> 04:22:34,600
A step back in history. And we heard Reverend Easley talk about Bull Connor.

2371
04:22:36,480 --> 04:22:42,840
Let me tell you a little bit about Bull Connor. One of the things that they did was they made it unlawful

2372
04:22:42,840 --> 04:22:46,180
to parade in the streets,

2373
04:22:48,260 --> 04:22:51,440
raise issues about the concern

2374
04:22:51,440 --> 04:22:55,520
where people were getting, look at me this time, young man,

2375
04:22:55,940 --> 04:22:58,580
people were getting tard and fathom.

2376
04:23:04,640 --> 04:23:06,740
The report is not going to be on the take down on you.

2377
04:23:06,880 --> 04:23:07,000
I'll be

2378
04:23:09,080 --> 04:23:09,680
following you again.

2379
04:23:12,000 --> 04:23:14,460
Mr. Brad, please go beyond the party.

2380
04:23:14,700 --> 04:23:15,140
Everyone else does.

2381
04:23:15,960 --> 04:23:16,620
I'll do that.

2382
04:23:16,620 --> 04:23:17,840
Look, thank you.

2383
04:23:19,700 --> 04:23:24,140
because I will be obedient to a point.

2384
04:23:28,860 --> 04:23:30,500
I'll do it for him now for you.

2385
04:23:32,640 --> 04:23:33,900
I start by good afternoon.

2386
04:23:34,300 --> 04:23:35,920
There are several ways to address this law,

2387
04:23:38,450 --> 04:23:41,110
and one of them was to discuss directly about

2388
04:23:41,110 --> 04:23:43,650
tar and feathering and lynchings.

2389
04:23:46,560 --> 04:23:48,340
Went on and still go on.

2390
04:23:48,340 --> 04:23:49,600
You can just look at the bird,

2391
04:23:49,600 --> 04:23:52,480
Bill, and Congress, and they'll tell you about a man

2392
04:23:52,480 --> 04:23:55,780
that got dragged behind a pickup truck in Texas

2393
04:23:55,780 --> 04:23:58,020
in your lifetime, young man,

2394
04:24:00,690 --> 04:24:04,630
and yet you stood with, I'm not even on my prepared

2395
04:24:04,630 --> 04:24:13,310
marks yet, you stood and kneeled, just like this Ford did, and other people did, with

2396
04:24:13,310 --> 04:24:19,490
black lives matter, protestors and said, I hear you, you didn't hear damn thing,

2397
04:24:21,590 --> 04:24:21,850
because

2398
04:24:21,850 --> 04:24:30,230
So if you did, you wouldn't pontificate and quit this up as a bill and denigrate the lives

2399
04:24:30,230 --> 04:24:38,610
of those individuals that dared to set their bodies in front of firing squads to stop

2400
04:24:38,610 --> 04:24:39,290
abuse.

2401
04:24:40,590 --> 04:24:42,990
So you should be ashamed of yourself.

2402
04:24:44,170 --> 04:24:50,770
I don't care what your political attempts order, climb up the ladder, don't climb on

2403
04:24:59,040 --> 04:25:06,940
What approach I take, there is no way to find the passage of the suggested law being acceptable.

2404
04:25:08,660 --> 04:25:14,380
The rest of the time there's going to be a lot of to me and I'm going to pray that somebody's going to heal some time to me.

2405
04:25:14,620 --> 04:25:18,220
Anybody out there that plans to speak, run a heal some time to me?

2406
04:25:18,540 --> 04:25:20,800
Okay, so I got 15, 20 minutes, I'm good.

2407
04:25:24,360 --> 04:25:27,860
That's fine, that's fine, but if those folks would be right there, names to me.

2408
04:25:27,860 --> 04:25:33,760
Anybody put in, anybody put in, say your name out loud, Dars?

2409
04:25:34,960 --> 04:25:38,380
Readjust Thomas, Thompson, Dars, Charles.

2410
04:25:39,420 --> 04:25:42,190
Nacens, is that enough? That's good. Thank you.

2411
04:25:45,030 --> 04:25:52,480
First, the bill is unconstitutional without any Ruth to being salvaged. And if you want to fight,

2412
04:25:53,490 --> 04:25:55,090
I'm built for it.

2413
04:25:55,510 --> 04:25:57,910
Be prepared. We are built for it.

2414
04:25:57,910 --> 04:26:05,030
any things with me. She's built for it. We'll bring the Constitutional lawyers because I've already spoken to them across the country

2415
04:26:05,850 --> 04:26:09,370
Mr. Shafar, I watched your pop your gum all afternoon

2416
04:26:10,290 --> 04:26:13,770
and I'm gonna say this because someone taught me

2417
04:26:15,430 --> 04:26:19,810
that it's really not good to do that when you want to people to respect you.

2418
04:26:23,480 --> 04:26:27,320
I mean, I'm looking for people because people, there's no call for that.

2419
04:26:27,320 --> 04:26:28,500
There is.

2420
04:26:29,000 --> 04:26:29,820
There is.

2421
04:26:30,080 --> 04:26:31,140
Because you're not sitting there.

2422
04:26:31,380 --> 04:26:32,100
And there's a matter of fact.

2423
04:26:32,100 --> 04:26:33,140
There's a matter of fact.

2424
04:26:33,500 --> 04:26:33,760
There's a chance.

2425
04:26:34,120 --> 04:26:35,160
Let me tell you something.

2426
04:26:35,320 --> 04:26:36,200
There you go.

2427
04:26:36,500 --> 04:26:37,580
See there you go.

2428
04:26:37,620 --> 04:26:38,620
I mean, why can't you go?

2429
04:26:39,020 --> 04:26:39,560
You can't.

2430
04:26:39,560 --> 04:26:40,060
I should have.

2431
04:26:40,760 --> 04:26:43,420
And respect it and clapped for a long time.

2432
04:26:43,700 --> 04:26:44,800
And I'm going to just tell you that.

2433
04:26:44,800 --> 04:26:45,680
There is.

2434
04:26:46,040 --> 04:26:52,560
Because when you saw the faces that we saw, the grimaces on the face when people talked about Black Lives Matter.

2435
04:26:52,840 --> 04:26:54,540
And we watch people on this side.

2436
04:26:54,800 --> 04:26:56,840
And at least one person on this side.

2437
04:26:56,840 --> 04:26:59,680
make faces, it's okay for me to comment.

2438
04:27:00,020 --> 04:27:01,000
Well, you're not coming to the match.

2439
04:27:01,240 --> 04:27:02,760
If you come out here, it's always true and gone.

2440
04:27:03,180 --> 04:27:04,300
No, I don't think so.

2441
04:27:04,580 --> 04:27:06,020
You don't need them. I mean, you don't need to do that.

2442
04:27:08,660 --> 04:27:10,060
He does have a first amendment.

2443
04:27:12,620 --> 04:27:16,420
If you want to tell me, if you want to tell me,

2444
04:27:16,420 --> 04:27:20,300
if you want to tell me that I can't say when I'm disrespected,

2445
04:27:20,860 --> 04:27:23,180
that means that the police that you want

2446
04:27:23,180 --> 04:27:25,540
to legislate to give the right to sue,

2447
04:27:25,700 --> 04:27:28,000
can't say that they are disrespected.

2448
04:27:32,920 --> 04:27:33,720
The

2449
04:27:38,550 --> 04:27:46,190
violation of the First Amendment rights is clearly identified in the vague and undefined terms, like injure.

2450
04:27:46,730 --> 04:27:55,450
That's not defined, but yet it's tail-in, Mr. Kennedy. It's on the tail-in, like a tail-wagging ador.

2451
04:27:55,450 --> 04:28:26,210
So that it's wide open, you may try and steal the definition whoever wrote this law, from the penal law, or from the federal statute, but you're left some things out, one of them is injure, because if indeed one of my brothers over here, who do serve us well, say, oh, I'm injured, my heart hurts, that's not defined, and they could sue, Mr. Cuffle, they could sue.

2452
04:28:26,890 --> 04:28:37,830
Ms. Bino, they could sue, and it's not even defined, but I'm not even getting there yet because the fact that while loosely referencing the New York penal law sections

2453
04:28:37,830 --> 04:28:56,170
120, 0, 0, 3, 0, 4, 0, 4, A, 0, 5, 0, 6, 0, 7, 0, 8, 10, 13 and 15 dealing with assault and menacing as well as 2, 40, 25,

2454
04:28:56,170 --> 04:29:04,770
26, 30, 31, and 32 dealing with harassment, all of which require some proof of intent.

2455
04:29:05,510 --> 04:29:13,770
It then wipes clean the need to prove any of those crimes, including the men's

2456
04:29:13,770 --> 04:29:19,230
raya of criminal intent, as set forth in those statutes.

2457
04:29:20,190 --> 04:29:21,510
How can that be?

2458
04:29:23,750 --> 04:29:25,150
This is the ability you put up.

2459
04:29:28,380 --> 04:29:56,860
The creation of a private right-of-action, which not only has an ill-defined term, and terms, but seeks to chill and limit the speech of persons who would seek to express themselves, make statements which are unpopular too when about police, and or engage in forms of protected speech that are otherwise lawful and properly protected by a hundred years of American jurisprudence is absurd.

2460
04:29:57,960 --> 04:29:59,960
You've got to find yourselves on the cuff.

2461
04:30:00,000 --> 04:30:09,160
For the Washington Post, the New York Times, time magazine, and any other document that you can

2462
04:30:09,160 --> 04:30:13,920
think of as a being national county, the police state.

2463
04:30:18,720 --> 04:30:21,920
The time and reasoning of this proposed statute

2464
04:30:21,920 --> 04:30:30,640
makes one point crystal clear. Fist law is intended to punish those voices and intimidate

2465
04:30:30,640 --> 04:30:37,080
those people who would put their bodies on the line for a moral imperative that cannot be denied.

2466
04:30:38,060 --> 04:30:45,220
The intent to chill and dampen protected speech and what protesters could not be more obvious.

2467
04:30:46,440 --> 04:30:52,180
Second, the placement of the status of being a protected class on first responders, including

2468
04:30:52,180 --> 04:30:59,580
police, is contrary to law and all designations of historical categories of real victims

2469
04:30:59,580 --> 04:31:08,520
of hate, real victims of discrimination, and real victims of defined categories under federal

2470
04:31:08,520 --> 04:31:10,180
and state law.

2471
04:31:12,320 --> 04:31:17,560
Why do you have what you've done, and what you're doing right now, is a slap in the

2472
04:31:17,560 --> 04:31:25,660
face to those who cross the Edmund Pettis Bridge, raised their voices for women's rights

2473
04:31:25,660 --> 04:31:33,480
in Seneca Falls and dared to speak out and that were victimized at Stonewall.

2474
04:31:34,840 --> 04:31:39,500
And if any of you want to know what those references are, give me your call.

2475
04:31:41,280 --> 04:31:46,680
Any argument, which suggests that first responders are already defined in the National County

2476
04:31:46,680 --> 04:31:51,840
Human Rights Law as a protected category, as amended, and believe it, it was an August

2477
04:31:51,840 --> 04:32:00,120
of 2020 or perhaps 19 does not make it valid. Repeating an unconstitutional mistake does not

2478
04:32:00,120 --> 04:32:09,620
make the first mistake go away. In fact, it makes it worse. The classes of race, color, religion,

2479
04:32:09,620 --> 04:32:23,880
national origin, disability, age, sexual orientation, gender identity, are all characteristics

2480
04:32:24,460 --> 04:32:26,620
recognized under federal law.

2481
04:32:30,840 --> 04:32:40,460
Systemic violence, lynchings, are and featherings, abuses,

2482
04:32:42,900 --> 04:32:51,380
taisings, beating with ass and batons, threats to life, lamb and security

2483
04:32:51,380 --> 04:32:55,870
are not being solved by this law.

2484
04:32:57,290 --> 04:33:02,890
In fact, they illustrate the real problems that exist by trying to cover it up.

2485
04:33:02,890 --> 04:33:08,090
by giving police yet another security blanket that they don't need.

2486
04:33:09,030 --> 04:33:13,410
The bill is dangerous, and as yet another hidden double whammy here it is.

2487
04:33:13,670 --> 04:33:17,690
Not only does it allow police to sue the civilians that paid their salaries,

2488
04:33:18,270 --> 04:33:22,670
it does provide for civil penalties under paragraph five,

2489
04:33:23,030 --> 04:33:29,610
where it says very important, in addition, legislator Walker,

2490
04:33:29,610 --> 04:33:32,370
in addition to civil liability.

2491
04:33:33,410 --> 04:33:39,850
Any person found to have violated the provisions of this section shall be subject to a civil penalty,

2492
04:33:40,210 --> 04:33:43,490
no more than $25,000 per violation.

2493
04:33:44,090 --> 04:33:45,550
Her violation.

2494
04:33:46,330 --> 04:33:49,010
You want to bankrupt somebody and shut them down?

2495
04:33:49,130 --> 04:33:51,030
That's one way you're doing it.

2496
04:33:51,630 --> 04:33:54,330
People are going to be afraid to speak their mind.

2497
04:33:54,630 --> 04:33:56,470
As a matter of fact, they still don't know.

2498
04:33:56,470 --> 04:34:08,450
So box and said what I'm saying right now, one of these young people in uniform over there could say I was insulted. I felt harassed and I'm suing brewing him

2499
04:34:11,550 --> 04:34:13,350
in addition to this

2500
04:34:14,410 --> 04:34:15,310
The legislature

2501
04:34:16,090 --> 04:34:21,870
Another double whammy, and I'm sure you read it. Mr. Lafazane

2502
04:34:21,870 --> 04:34:27,870
gives up its power to the police commissioner to have the county attorney

2503
04:34:27,870 --> 04:34:32,050
to sue the civilian for these damages and penalties.

2504
04:34:32,830 --> 04:34:39,190
So what you are doing is what occurred just prior historians,

2505
04:34:41,260 --> 04:34:45,700
just prior to us entering World War II.

2506
04:34:46,820 --> 04:34:57,160
Is that the elected officials in countries we call totalitarian gave absolute authority to non-elected persons

2507
04:34:57,160 --> 04:35:06,840
to use the power of government to handle those who they wanted to silence and economically ruin.

2508
04:35:07,780 --> 04:35:12,560
I don't need to teach some people on the days of their own history.

2509
04:35:14,420 --> 04:35:18,780
You then, in paragraph 4, completely cut out the Human Rights Commission.

2510
04:35:18,980 --> 04:35:20,900
Did you know that?

2511
04:35:20,900 --> 04:35:27,560
The statute in paragraph four says, and cuts out the Human Rights Commission of National

2512
04:35:27,560 --> 04:35:34,840
County, and states that they are not to be involved in providing any investigation, any

2513
04:35:34,840 --> 04:35:41,680
hearing, fact-finding, or other form of due process, so that you are rigging the process

2514
04:35:41,680 --> 04:35:49,240
to deny constitutional rights and skipping any opportunity for the agencies whose law

2515
04:35:49,240 --> 04:35:53,000
you are amending to be involved at all.

2516
04:35:55,810 --> 04:35:57,190
This is more than cheating.

2517
04:35:59,110 --> 04:35:59,730
It's abusive.

2518
04:36:02,130 --> 04:36:06,530
And let me just ask, and you probably won't answer me,

2519
04:36:06,750 --> 04:36:10,690
did you get counsel from the Human Rights Commission on this bill?

2520
04:36:12,270 --> 04:36:16,370
If you did, tell me who you spoke to because I spoke to him.

2521
04:36:17,590 --> 04:36:24,530
The county's own numbers reported to New York State demonstrate that the impacting of police

2522
04:36:24,530 --> 04:36:30,290
on communities of color shows disproportionate and disparate numbers based on race.

2523
04:36:30,910 --> 04:36:34,130
You all have refused to discuss race.

2524
04:36:34,910 --> 04:36:37,190
You refuse to have that conversation.

2525
04:36:37,770 --> 04:36:39,990
That's what makes this even more dangerous.

2526
04:36:41,610 --> 04:36:48,190
from car stops to arrest, and from use of force and race based on differential in charges,

2527
04:36:48,570 --> 04:36:57,030
those communities that suffered over policing the numbers in Nassau do not lie. It is

2528
04:36:57,030 --> 04:37:03,150
these facts, which confirms what has been occurring in our country, all of which justified

2529
04:37:03,150 --> 04:37:15,530
public outcry by people from all races, all religions, all gender identities, those with disabilities,

2530
04:37:16,570 --> 04:37:21,890
and those who are born in different lands, and from other communities who call themselves allies

2531
04:37:21,890 --> 04:37:29,970
who understood that when they said, Mr. Lafazan, Black Lives Matter this past year and a half,

2532
04:37:29,970 --> 04:37:35,330
They understood that it was not the police who had been victimized.

2533
04:37:36,110 --> 04:37:38,550
Police are not discriminated against.

2534
04:37:39,470 --> 04:37:40,950
Black people are.

2535
04:37:41,630 --> 04:37:43,070
Brown people are.

2536
04:37:45,470 --> 04:37:47,310
Gay people are.

2537
04:37:47,910 --> 04:37:49,890
Disabled people are.

2538
04:37:50,190 --> 04:37:51,590
Women are.

2539
04:37:51,830 --> 04:37:52,950
Jews are.

2540
04:37:53,450 --> 04:37:53,890
Muslims are.

2541
04:37:54,390 --> 04:37:55,670
Christians are.

2542
04:37:55,690 --> 04:37:56,990
All the people are.

2543
04:37:57,090 --> 04:37:58,130
Police are not.

2544
04:38:00,840 --> 04:38:02,240
How dare you.

2545
04:38:02,240 --> 04:38:11,880
A appropriate centuries of struggle by oppressed peoples and abuse your authority to cheapen

2546
04:38:11,880 --> 04:38:16,140
those struggles by offering no less passing this bill.

2547
04:38:17,180 --> 04:38:24,900
Then you make it so that nothing has to be proven by gathering and granting an irrebutable

2548
04:38:24,900 --> 04:38:25,680
presumption.

2549
04:38:26,100 --> 04:38:30,180
We want to say that term because for all lawyers we should all cringe.

2550
04:38:30,180 --> 04:38:32,960
Mr. Nikolay, I'll allow you, do you remember that term?

2551
04:38:33,660 --> 04:38:35,180
Era-buttable presumption

2552
04:38:37,610 --> 04:38:39,610
that whatever is alleged,

2553
04:38:41,330 --> 04:38:43,150
as vague as it made thee,

2554
04:38:44,170 --> 04:38:47,790
that it was done solely as a hate crime against police

2555
04:38:48,130 --> 04:38:50,850
and that the statements actions protest

2556
04:38:50,850 --> 04:38:53,370
were for no other reason,

2557
04:38:57,580 --> 04:39:00,120
not like vindicating civil rights.

2558
04:39:02,240 --> 04:39:03,200
I'm almost done.

2559
04:39:03,920 --> 04:39:06,920
But let me take you through a very simple

2560
04:39:06,920 --> 04:39:08,880
And very brief exercise.

2561
04:39:10,280 --> 04:39:11,380
Listen to these words.

2562
04:39:13,260 --> 04:39:14,940
That's wrong right there.

2563
04:39:15,700 --> 04:39:17,140
You a tough guy, huh?

2564
04:39:18,080 --> 04:39:20,600
You don't think anybody understands that S-Bro?

2565
04:39:21,200 --> 04:39:23,480
S standing for another word.

2566
04:39:23,800 --> 04:39:26,440
Legislative Ford, I'm going to try and be Gentile.

2567
04:39:29,300 --> 04:39:31,140
You're being a bum right now.

2568
04:39:32,040 --> 04:39:33,980
He's enjoying that S.

2569
04:39:35,440 --> 04:39:36,460
You're enjoying that.

2570
04:39:36,460 --> 04:39:37,500
Look at you.

2571
04:39:37,500 --> 04:39:41,460
Your body explains your effing, your effing bum.

2572
04:39:43,750 --> 04:39:46,310
You know, that's bogus right there, bro.

2573
04:39:47,470 --> 04:39:51,210
You can't even look at me like a man because you're a bum, bro.

2574
04:39:52,570 --> 04:39:53,930
You think that's cool?

2575
04:39:54,590 --> 04:39:56,470
What's your badge, number? Bro.

2576
04:39:57,490 --> 04:40:02,770
I know that's what you want to do, but I'm not scared of you.

2577
04:40:03,550 --> 04:40:05,750
Check him for an effing pulse.

2578
04:40:06,790 --> 04:40:12,070
You're a bumbro, you're a bumbro, you're definitely a bum.

2579
04:40:13,190 --> 04:40:18,550
The first thing you want to do is grab your mace because you're scared.

2580
04:40:19,270 --> 04:40:21,270
Scared of effin' minorities.

2581
04:40:23,170 --> 04:40:24,210
Let me just say,

2582
04:40:26,480 --> 04:40:27,340
those are comments.

2583
04:40:29,400 --> 04:40:30,240
If we go to be,

2584
04:40:32,900 --> 04:40:38,520
those comments came from these people.

2585
04:40:40,700 --> 04:40:50,380
And some of you may have the picture, these are some of the people that stood as George Floyd

2586
04:40:50,380 --> 04:40:51,360
got murdered.

2587
04:40:53,080 --> 04:40:58,200
And those individuals we need to say, we said George Floyd's name, but we need to

2588
04:40:58,200 --> 04:41:03,480
say them there, Alyssa Finari and Charles McMillan and Christopher Martin and Donald

2589
04:41:03,480 --> 04:41:09,640
Williams and Geneva Hanson and Darnella Fraser, a firefighter, a mixed martial arts fighter,

2590
04:41:09,640 --> 04:41:15,560
a high school student and our nine-year-old cousin, and you remember the t-shirt, it said love.

2591
04:41:17,540 --> 04:41:25,320
Those individuals that are in this picture, the one that you would have a picture of right, you got this.

2592
04:41:26,220 --> 04:41:31,840
Those people could be sued based on your law, based on your state cell.

2593
04:41:32,940 --> 04:41:37,980
Based on what Mr. Lafazan has placed up as political father.

2594
04:41:39,800 --> 04:41:42,200
But let me tell you another thing,

2595
04:41:44,490 --> 04:41:47,990
but each of you need to look,

2596
04:41:50,140 --> 04:41:51,100
look at these.

2597
04:41:52,420 --> 04:41:53,600
You see these four?

2598
04:41:56,380 --> 04:41:59,660
Everybody got a copy of this up there?

2599
04:42:00,200 --> 04:42:15,860
Because these are the faces of those who stood to silence, ignore, discount and abuse the voices of regular people who protested as they witnessed on May 25th

2600
04:42:17,140 --> 04:42:25,100
and you would pass a law to allow these four people or any of our own,

2601
04:42:26,140 --> 04:42:30,200
to sue them and never have to prove intent.

2602
04:42:31,720 --> 04:42:35,140
Was there intent in saying that?

2603
04:42:35,900 --> 04:42:37,920
Because they hated police?

2604
04:42:38,960 --> 04:42:41,740
Or was it because they would try to save a man's life?

2605
04:42:43,630 --> 04:42:45,090
I pray,

2606
04:42:49,320 --> 04:42:55,280
I pray, Brother Rhodes, that you say, hard on this bill.

2607
04:42:57,190 --> 04:43:02,850
Mr. McEve, I pray your heart is not hard and like Pharaoh.

2608
04:43:05,580 --> 04:43:10,980
I pray that you each think of it, even the ones that put their name on this bill

2609
04:43:10,980 --> 04:43:12,880
and thought they were doing something smart.

2610
04:43:16,160 --> 04:43:21,000
I pray that each of you understands that on May 25th,

2611
04:43:21,000 --> 04:43:36,660
You would have condemned those four people, those eight people that gave these words that have all the curse words in them that I gave you, to being sued and financially ruined so that they would be

2612
04:43:36,660 --> 04:43:46,440
learn a hard lesson and never do it again. If you want to bring our society to its knees, give that power to the police so they can shut us down.

2613
04:43:46,440 --> 04:43:49,740
Because we've only asked for justice.

2614
04:43:50,820 --> 04:43:53,300
We've never asked for vengeance.

2615
04:44:04,260 --> 04:44:07,180
I'm going to sit down now, but before I do.

2616
04:44:08,560 --> 04:44:09,900
Let me just say this.

2617
04:44:13,790 --> 04:44:18,430
Don't fuel hatred, don't fuel discrimination.

2618
04:44:19,610 --> 04:44:25,410
Don't give discriminators yet another tool to put a neck on my knee.

2619
04:44:25,410 --> 04:44:31,390
Because when you do, you force people to push back.

2620
04:44:32,110 --> 04:44:36,850
You force people to be in a corner that they don't want to be in.

2621
04:44:40,140 --> 04:44:42,040
Don't kneel with us.

2622
04:44:43,360 --> 04:44:47,980
And at the same time, nail us to the damn cross.

2623
04:44:49,140 --> 04:44:50,280
Thank you for your time.

2624
04:45:42,590 --> 04:45:45,710
I have a question at point of clarification.

2625
04:46:22,320 --> 04:46:36,820
I have a question at point of clarification after the rules and bylaws of this body, at this point legally, to my understanding, please correct me from wrong. But at this point legally, only the presiding officer can pull the bill. Is that correct?

2626
04:46:38,900 --> 04:46:39,700
question.

2627
04:46:41,540 --> 04:46:42,300
It's irrelevant.

2628
04:46:42,760 --> 04:46:43,060
It's irrelevant.

2629
04:46:43,380 --> 04:46:43,980
But here is the thing.

2630
04:46:44,080 --> 04:46:44,860
We're in the middle of it.

2631
04:46:45,460 --> 04:46:46,080
I'm sorry.

2632
04:46:46,460 --> 04:46:46,680
We're sorry.

2633
04:46:46,680 --> 04:46:47,420
We're all the respect.

2634
04:46:47,660 --> 04:46:48,400
We're in the middle of it.

2635
04:46:48,920 --> 04:46:49,840
My question as you are.

2636
04:46:50,060 --> 04:46:51,580
We're in the middle of it.

2637
04:46:51,580 --> 04:46:52,560
We are in the middle of it.

2638
04:46:53,040 --> 04:46:54,380
So I have a number of other slips.

2639
04:46:55,120 --> 04:46:55,880
Two people once.

2640
04:46:56,120 --> 04:46:57,260
Is anyone here want to speak?

2641
04:46:58,980 --> 04:47:00,640
Well, no, no, no, no.

2642
04:47:00,640 --> 04:47:01,500
That's not how it works.

2643
04:47:03,200 --> 04:47:04,800
If you want to come and speak,

2644
04:47:05,320 --> 04:47:06,160
I'm sorry sir.

2645
04:47:09,960 --> 04:47:12,560
There's a whole stack of people who want to speak.

2646
04:47:12,900 --> 04:47:13,580
Who said we're the slips?

2647
04:47:13,820 --> 04:47:15,220
I'm going to call those names in order.

2648
04:47:15,760 --> 04:47:16,820
Have them come up.

2649
04:47:17,000 --> 04:47:18,500
If people don't want to speak at this point,

2650
04:47:18,700 --> 04:47:20,100
want us to move on to the next thing, then we will.

2651
04:47:23,840 --> 04:47:25,160
Bremen, Mackie, before you speak,

2652
04:47:25,280 --> 04:47:28,280
I just want to make sure that the public is clear on how the procedures

2653
04:47:28,280 --> 04:47:29,460
of the legislature works.

2654
04:47:30,940 --> 04:47:35,360
The presided officer has the authority to not call the bill.

2655
04:47:35,820 --> 04:47:37,100
Pull the bill cannot happen.

2656
04:47:37,340 --> 04:47:37,900
It's already been part of the bill.

2657
04:47:37,900 --> 04:47:44,820
the legislative calendar, what will then proceed if the bill is called. We can call someone

2658
04:47:44,820 --> 04:47:52,540
can call for a motion to table the item. From that standpoint, a table needs a second, and

2659
04:47:52,540 --> 04:47:59,300
then from there, the legislature votes on it. Those are the only two processes. I know everyone

2660
04:47:59,300 --> 04:48:03,380
is saying pull the bill because they do not want to see the bill go forward, but there is no

2661
04:48:03,380 --> 04:48:06,040
process to pull the bill off the legislative calendar.

2662
04:48:06,380 --> 04:48:08,620
The legislative calendar is part of a public notice.

2663
04:48:09,360 --> 04:48:10,480
The public has been notified.

2664
04:48:11,240 --> 04:48:13,940
It would be reckless and irresponsible to pull an item

2665
04:48:13,940 --> 04:48:15,140
that the public has been notified,

2666
04:48:15,140 --> 04:48:16,280
because you would not be here today

2667
04:48:16,280 --> 04:48:18,140
if you were not notified based on that item.

2668
04:48:18,600 --> 04:48:22,020
But I think the language we mean to say is not pull the bill.

2669
04:48:22,700 --> 04:48:26,680
It's not called the bill or we mean to table the bill.

2670
04:48:26,760 --> 04:48:28,380
So I want to make sure we clear on the language.

2671
04:48:29,080 --> 04:48:30,940
Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold

2672
04:48:33,380 --> 04:48:34,540
on, hold on, hold on.

2673
04:48:36,420 --> 04:48:45,830
There's the hearing, the hearing isn't still open, whoever wants to speak, I'm going to call the names of Reverend Mackie, you go ahead.

2674
04:48:46,170 --> 04:48:53,510
Thank you very much. My name is Pastor Arthur Mackie, Jr. Pastor of Mount Sonia Baptist Church in Roosevelt, New York.

2675
04:48:54,050 --> 04:49:07,910
And I'm here to call on the NASA County legislator to vote against this racist classes and sexist bill to make NASA County police a police protected class.

2676
04:49:09,210 --> 04:49:12,430
They don't deserve to be a protected class.

2677
04:49:12,650 --> 04:49:18,910
I was born black, and so was Akbar Rogers, who was brutally beat by the freeport village

2678
04:49:18,910 --> 04:49:24,450
police, including the mayor's son, and nothing has been done about that.

2679
04:49:24,850 --> 04:49:29,850
Justice needs to be done, and now, so county police certainly don't need to be a protected

2680
04:49:30,810 --> 04:49:31,530
class.

2681
04:49:33,150 --> 04:49:37,910
Also, a matulari of Roosevelt, New York, was born black.

2682
04:49:38,370 --> 04:49:45,950
Brutely beat the black boy scout by the NASA county police from the first precinct.

2683
04:49:46,250 --> 04:49:50,650
We marched there with a attorney brewantin to the first precinct.

2684
04:49:51,670 --> 04:49:58,550
They had guns pointed at us snipers as we marched there, but we marched on anyhow.

2685
04:49:59,470 --> 04:50:09,550
And then in Queens illegally over the borderline, Matthew Felix was assassinated by Nassau

2686
04:50:09,550 --> 04:50:10,530
County Police.

2687
04:50:11,130 --> 04:50:13,670
Now we have no problem on our top cops.

2688
04:50:14,170 --> 04:50:17,590
I work in government for 30 years, three decades.

2689
04:50:18,190 --> 04:50:24,090
I put together a lot of good programs on our top cops, but we do have a problem with corrupt

2690
04:50:24,090 --> 04:50:26,690
cops killing our people.

2691
04:50:28,970 --> 04:50:53,230
And we've stood with Matthew Felix family, and they killed him at 19 years old, I was there with him or the family for their 20th birthday that is going to be a march on the 29th regarding his assassinated nation by Nassau County cops and we call on you to vote against this bill.

2692
04:50:53,230 --> 04:50:56,290
And anybody who votes, yes, we call on the good people,

2693
04:50:56,390 --> 04:50:58,370
and that's our county, the vote against them.

2694
04:51:02,060 --> 04:51:06,760
Ow, Ralph Keso, never born a bill like this.

2695
04:51:08,180 --> 04:51:11,160
He would meet with the black leaders, huh?

2696
04:51:11,600 --> 04:51:16,520
Fran Chi, for self, never would bring a bill like this.

2697
04:51:16,600 --> 04:51:19,240
He would meet with leaders in the community,

2698
04:51:19,780 --> 04:51:22,820
Thomas Escalada, whenever,

2699
04:51:23,540 --> 04:51:32,820
Bring a bill like this, he would meet with the leaders of the community, and say we've got to talk to Jim Rice from the Commission on Human Rights.

2700
04:51:33,800 --> 04:51:33,820
Huh?

2701
04:51:34,480 --> 04:51:37,040
Oh, rep my father to leave Reven Arthur, Mackie Senior.

2702
04:51:37,120 --> 04:51:40,140
Thomas, that's a lot of would never allow a bill like this to come.

2703
04:51:40,600 --> 04:51:42,060
And Thomas, why is he?

2704
04:51:42,780 --> 04:51:44,680
Would never allow a bill like this to come.

2705
04:51:44,820 --> 04:51:45,980
Shame on you!

2706
04:51:47,060 --> 04:51:52,380
For bringing this racist, crisis, and sexist bill,

2707
04:51:52,380 --> 04:51:55,380
that discriminates against the people.

2708
04:51:57,300 --> 04:51:59,380
We have gone through too much.

2709
04:51:59,980 --> 04:52:02,880
There are too many black men who've been found hanging

2710
04:52:02,880 --> 04:52:05,380
in the Nassau County jail.

2711
04:52:06,180 --> 04:52:08,640
There are too many cases of cover-up.

2712
04:52:09,060 --> 04:52:13,420
In Nassau County, Nassau County has become the new South

2713
04:52:13,420 --> 04:52:16,200
and it's nothing to be proud of.

2714
04:52:16,320 --> 04:52:19,760
It's something to be ashamed of.

2715
04:52:19,760 --> 04:52:23,960
out, no, on this bill,

2716
04:52:36,780 --> 04:52:37,520
Patricia Pastor.

2717
04:52:48,260 --> 04:52:49,020
Good evening.

2718
04:52:49,940 --> 04:52:51,640
I'm quite, that's where we're at.

2719
04:52:54,100 --> 04:52:57,820
And I was glad you let a couple people in

2720
04:52:57,820 --> 04:53:01,560
after Fred, because I really didn't want to follow Fred.

2721
04:53:01,860 --> 04:53:03,520
Fred's a tough act of Fala.

2722
04:53:04,880 --> 04:53:06,620
My name is Patricia Pastor,

2723
04:53:07,280 --> 04:53:10,040
and I am a civil rights attorney,

2724
04:53:12,220 --> 04:53:21,580
constituent of legislative burn-down, I live in, in, in, and has it. And I am also the president

2725
04:53:21,580 --> 04:53:26,360
of the National Organization for Women in Nassau County and the legislative lead for

2726
04:53:26,360 --> 04:53:37,660
now New York State. And I'm here today to talk about this bill and so many people have

2727
04:53:37,660 --> 04:53:44,920
already said what I wanted to say, so most of my prepared notes, I'm sure you'll be grateful,

2728
04:53:45,840 --> 04:53:49,360
I'm not going to cover, so I should be fairly brief.

2729
04:53:51,380 --> 04:53:58,880
What I want to say is that my presence here is not about anti-police.

2730
04:53:58,880 --> 04:54:14,800
I spent 10 years in the NYPD and I have police officers in my family and I have a sort

2731
04:54:14,800 --> 04:54:19,580
of familiar relationships sometimes with police because of that.

2732
04:54:19,580 --> 04:54:30,220
So I kind of get it when it comes to individual officers, but we're talking about a society.

2733
04:54:30,360 --> 04:54:45,080
We're talking about a culture when we talk about police problems, problems in the police departments in Nassal County and Suffolk County in New York and throughout the country actually.

2734
04:54:45,080 --> 04:54:54,420
So, my presence here to speak today is about maintaining a democracy,

2735
04:54:56,520 --> 04:55:00,920
because this bill is a threat to democracy.

2736
04:55:04,080 --> 04:55:16,380
And, you know, it's about the right of the citizens of Nassau County to speak out and to object to mistreatment

2737
04:55:16,380 --> 04:55:20,700
and to object to abuse by government actors.

2738
04:55:22,600 --> 04:55:25,120
Police officers are public servants.

2739
04:55:25,820 --> 04:55:27,140
They're government actors.

2740
04:55:28,820 --> 04:55:30,960
And we have a right.

2741
04:55:32,120 --> 04:55:36,020
All of us have a right to speak out, obviously,

2742
04:55:36,560 --> 04:55:39,220
against abuse and mistreatment and harassment

2743
04:55:39,220 --> 04:55:42,920
by government actors, including the police.

2744
04:55:47,830 --> 04:55:54,250
And Bill, in particular, the irrebuttable presumption,

2745
04:55:56,660 --> 04:55:58,380
which for anyone that doesn't understand

2746
04:55:58,380 --> 04:56:07,040
that, means that if the police are protected category, and I say or do something that

2747
04:56:07,040 --> 04:56:17,310
the police consider harassment, this was says that it's going to be assumed by the fact

2748
04:56:17,310 --> 04:56:22,310
finder by the judge by the jury it's going to be assumed in the lawsuit the police

2749
04:56:22,310 --> 04:56:29,570
bring against me. It's going to be assumed that I said or did what I did to the police

2750
04:56:29,570 --> 04:56:34,850
officer because he's a police officer because he wears a uniform and carries a shield

2751
04:56:34,850 --> 04:56:36,110
and a gun.

2752
04:56:37,130 --> 04:56:43,250
It's already assumed and it's irrebutable. I can't bring a lawyer in to say,

2753
04:56:47,250 --> 04:56:47,290
oh,

2754
04:56:47,990 --> 04:56:55,850
So, yes, this bill gives police officers more rights than all of those marginalized people

2755
04:56:55,850 --> 04:57:02,450
that current federal, state, and local law protect right now, because of their race and

2756
04:57:02,450 --> 04:57:06,970
gender and all of those categories that were mentioned by other people previously.

2757
04:57:09,580 --> 04:57:11,660
So, again, police are public servants.

2758
04:57:11,880 --> 04:57:13,700
They're not marginalized people.

2759
04:57:14,180 --> 04:57:17,640
I mean, no one here is going to try to argue that with me.

2760
04:57:19,210 --> 04:57:22,550
Wearing a uniform is not an inherent characteristic.

2761
04:57:24,510 --> 04:57:26,950
This bill is anti-democratic.

2762
04:57:28,270 --> 04:57:30,090
It's anti-civil rights.

2763
04:57:30,890 --> 04:57:34,330
It violates the tenets of a democratic society.

2764
04:57:36,410 --> 04:57:39,310
Essentially, it gives police absolute discretion

2765
04:57:39,310 --> 04:57:41,650
to decide what is harassment.

2766
04:57:42,570 --> 04:57:45,110
It's like I fear for my life.

2767
04:57:46,050 --> 04:57:52,110
It's okay and important for a police officer to say I fear for my life if he or she does.

2768
04:57:53,650 --> 04:58:01,190
But I'm talking about when they when that's the statement that you have to make to get away with abuse.

2769
04:58:02,070 --> 04:58:03,310
Okay, it's like that.

2770
04:58:03,570 --> 04:58:05,250
It stifles the first amendment, right?

2771
04:58:05,490 --> 04:58:05,730
Okay.

2772
04:58:05,730 --> 04:58:09,490
Every citizen who objects to me, please sum up.

2773
04:58:09,750 --> 04:58:10,350
I will sum up.

2774
04:58:12,810 --> 04:58:16,110
In a democratic society, we need to be able to speak out.

2775
04:58:17,520 --> 04:58:22,740
And this bill is creating a situation that will

2776
04:58:24,200 --> 04:58:27,200
stifle that fundamental, right?

2777
04:58:27,520 --> 04:58:30,320
You cannot call yourself a democratic representative

2778
04:58:30,320 --> 04:58:33,120
of Nassau County citizens and vote for this bill.

2779
04:58:35,820 --> 04:58:40,020
If this body passes this bill after what we have witnessed here today,

2780
04:58:40,700 --> 04:58:42,860
then you will have made a mockery of the legislature

2781
04:58:42,860 --> 04:58:45,020
and your role in it.

2782
04:58:45,260 --> 04:58:45,860
Thank you.

2783
04:59:09,310 --> 04:59:11,110
Good evening, legislators.

2784
04:59:13,590 --> 04:59:20,310
I wasn't going to speak, but there's a voice in this that hasn't been heard yet.

2785
04:59:20,790 --> 04:59:24,810
My name is Lisa Votino, and I am actually a resident of Suffolk County.

2786
04:59:25,610 --> 04:59:28,730
So I thank you in advance for considering my comments today.

2787
04:59:29,450 --> 04:59:34,670
I am a member of Long Island advocates for police accountability, but that's not why I'm here today.

2788
04:59:35,550 --> 04:59:44,190
My fellow members, I said we'll speak, but they've spoken on something that on the troubling

2789
04:59:44,190 --> 04:59:48,390
issues in the stuff that I will speak on something that I unfortunately know well too

2790
04:59:48,390 --> 04:59:49,150
well.

2791
04:59:49,770 --> 04:59:54,530
This is my first time speaking before this legislature, but it is important to note that this

2792
04:59:54,530 --> 04:59:59,970
the body presented me with a citation when I was being knocked.

2793
05:00:10,740 --> 05:00:16,980
I received that award because I'm a community organizer. I work on civil rights and human rights issues.

2794
05:00:19,640 --> 05:00:26,920
One of the main reasons I received the recognition was because of my work with victims of hate crimes and incidents of hate.

2795
05:00:27,700 --> 05:00:31,460
When people say they don't recognize my name, I always reply,

2796
05:00:32,340 --> 05:00:32,540
good.

2797
05:00:33,880 --> 05:00:36,200
I think people think I'm joking, but I'm not.

2798
05:00:36,320 --> 05:00:38,240
It means you've never needed me,

2799
05:00:38,820 --> 05:00:41,140
and that is an incredibly blessed thing.

2800
05:00:45,250 --> 05:00:47,850
And I'll say that this work is very emotional at times.

2801
05:00:50,420 --> 05:00:51,760
Most of my work is in Suffolk,

2802
05:00:52,540 --> 05:00:55,100
and honestly, there is never a lack of work there.

2803
05:00:56,260 --> 05:00:58,620
While much of my work can be very difficult at times,

2804
05:00:58,700 --> 05:01:00,040
as you can see,

2805
05:01:00,980 --> 05:01:06,620
There's honestly nothing that breaks me more than being intimately involved in the aftermath of a heat crack.

2806
05:01:09,180 --> 05:01:14,340
That's how I know most of you have never worked closely with victims of heat crimes.

2807
05:01:15,820 --> 05:01:20,120
And it is to your detriment and their detriment that you haven't.

2808
05:01:20,920 --> 05:01:25,140
You wouldn't be able to stomach this law for a single second if you had.

2809
05:01:26,320 --> 05:01:28,820
After elected officials say their platitudes,

2810
05:01:29,420 --> 05:01:34,660
And activist, push to ensure that circumstances leading up to a hate crime don't happen again.

2811
05:01:35,260 --> 05:01:36,200
And the media leaves.

2812
05:01:37,040 --> 05:01:38,660
That's where you find me.

2813
05:01:39,780 --> 05:01:45,320
I am the person that quietly helps people pick up the shattered pieces of their lives

2814
05:01:45,320 --> 05:01:48,700
when they are forced to try to continue on after something so devastating.

2815
05:01:58,760 --> 05:02:00,840
I have housed hands as verdicts.

2816
05:02:01,580 --> 05:02:04,740
I have been read and I have wiped tears.

2817
05:02:04,740 --> 05:02:10,480
When a person is told that the crime that destroyed their life won't be charged as a hate crime,

2818
05:02:12,140 --> 05:02:14,780
the truth is that we should be tougher on hate crimes.

2819
05:02:15,000 --> 05:02:18,160
And instead, we're debating watering it down to include people

2820
05:02:18,160 --> 05:02:21,100
that at the end of the day, you can take off their uniforms.

2821
05:02:22,760 --> 05:02:25,780
Victims of hate crimes don't have that luxury.

2822
05:02:27,640 --> 05:02:28,660
And it is a luxury.

2823
05:02:29,720 --> 05:02:33,840
You've never received a call at 3 a.m. from a survivor of a hate crime.

2824
05:02:33,840 --> 05:02:38,780
His miracle crying because they finally eat them up inside that had they just been born white.

2825
05:02:39,020 --> 05:02:41,260
This never would have happened to them.

2826
05:02:41,780 --> 05:02:49,410
You all get to sit there and decide whether we are going to make a mockery of their pain.

2827
05:02:50,470 --> 05:02:55,570
We are already under staff and under fund the investigation and prosecution of hate crimes.

2828
05:02:56,390 --> 05:03:00,990
Victims are often for the most marginalized and underserved parts of our community.

2829
05:03:00,990 --> 05:03:07,270
That person on the phone with me at three a.m. has no other redress. Police officers do.

2830
05:03:08,250 --> 05:03:10,250
We have other protections in police officers.

2831
05:03:11,370 --> 05:03:15,850
And if the BLM movement never happened last year, we wouldn't be standing in this room right now.

2832
05:03:16,030 --> 05:03:17,810
We won't know it.

2833
05:03:18,650 --> 05:03:23,450
What you do here affects not only NASA, but it seeps into Suffolk in the country at large.

2834
05:03:23,730 --> 05:03:27,090
And as people have pointed out, it already has.

2835
05:03:27,830 --> 05:03:33,950
History will not look finally on this moment, and your legacies will be tarnished and rightfully so.

2836
05:03:35,410 --> 05:03:41,250
For those in Nassau, I believe they can keep getting by saying, hey, at least we're not suffix.

2837
05:03:42,590 --> 05:03:47,730
I would have you consider that this is the equivalent of Mississippi saying during the civil rights movement.

2838
05:03:47,730 --> 05:03:55,990
hey at least we're not Alabama am I right in 2021 we don't look highly at either for

2839
05:03:55,990 --> 05:04:00,810
their actions during that pivotal moment in our country's history and before you

2840
05:04:00,810 --> 05:04:05,150
dismiss what I say and chalk it up to just another cop heater I assure you I'm

2841
05:04:05,730 --> 05:04:10,450
not I have many friends and family who are in corrections and our officers but if

2842
05:04:10,450 --> 05:04:13,970
you still want to believe I'm Andy Cop and I'm gonna ask for a little extra time

2843
05:04:15,750 --> 05:04:17,990
I refer you to someone you might know.

2844
05:04:18,210 --> 05:04:19,490
I want to ask you to please sum up.

2845
05:04:19,530 --> 05:04:22,210
Everyone is blowing beyond the five minutes.

2846
05:04:22,770 --> 05:04:25,110
I've been very reasonable, but please sum up.

2847
05:04:25,190 --> 05:04:26,570
I get to the end of your comments.

2848
05:04:29,930 --> 05:04:31,710
If you want to still believe on the anti-cap,

2849
05:04:32,810 --> 05:04:34,750
I refer you to someone you might know.

2850
05:04:35,370 --> 05:04:36,710
Former Chief of Nassau Police,

2851
05:04:36,890 --> 05:04:39,750
and current South Hampton Town Police Chief Stevens Reneky,

2852
05:04:40,630 --> 05:04:42,810
who I just finally call Chief.

2853
05:04:43,590 --> 05:04:50,730
We work together to ensure protester and officer safety at the march's last summer, and we worked on police reform in the town of South Hampton.

2854
05:04:51,630 --> 05:04:56,110
We come from two very different perspectives, and I honestly don't know his loss on this.

2855
05:04:56,490 --> 05:05:01,410
But we agree on one simple principle. Leave your community better than you found it.

2856
05:05:01,610 --> 05:05:04,030
And I was asked all of you to do the same today.

2857
05:05:17,730 --> 05:05:19,730
Judy on steam.

2858
05:05:24,850 --> 05:05:29,850
I'll try to take less than five so can make up for others. I'll talk fast.

2859
05:05:31,190 --> 05:05:37,930
Oh, I'm already started. I got, I'm not one of those who had the device. I'm still paper.

2860
05:05:38,270 --> 05:05:44,830
I'm a boomer. Okay. Um, you're all allowed to say okay, boomer to me whenever. Thank you.

2861
05:05:45,630 --> 05:05:50,950
Thank you. Good afternoon. My name is Judy Ornstein. I've been a resident of Nest.

2862
05:05:50,950 --> 05:05:52,090
Oh, wait, do I need to?

2863
05:05:52,690 --> 05:05:55,770
OK, I've been a resident of NASA County for the vast majority

2864
05:05:55,770 --> 05:05:57,230
of my 64 years.

2865
05:05:57,510 --> 05:05:59,290
Yes, I've now admitted that.

2866
05:06:00,450 --> 05:06:02,990
I consider myself a fairly reasonable person

2867
05:06:04,010 --> 05:06:06,110
with the exception of when I'm at an island or game,

2868
05:06:06,110 --> 05:06:07,130
and we're playing the capitals.

2869
05:06:07,590 --> 05:06:09,170
I'm not so reasonable then.

2870
05:06:12,360 --> 05:06:15,360
I think I want to, I just, most of what I was going to say

2871
05:06:15,360 --> 05:06:16,560
has already been said.

2872
05:06:16,660 --> 05:06:20,360
You said it's so much better than I had prepared.

2873
05:06:20,360 --> 05:06:25,780
But I do want to point out a couple of things and just thought a couple of eyes and cross a couple of

2874
05:06:25,780 --> 05:06:26,700
teas.

2875
05:06:28,620 --> 05:06:36,740
A family member of mine asked someone on this body about this bill last week and was told that

2876
05:06:36,740 --> 05:06:41,920
at least as they reported it to me that this was really just a bill that was designed to

2877
05:06:41,920 --> 05:06:46,580
protect police officers who get injured while they're doing their jobs.

2878
05:06:46,580 --> 05:06:51,000
I don't think there's anybody here who doesn't think that a police officer who gets injured

2879
05:06:51,000 --> 05:06:57,680
while doing their job should be able to be compensated for that, should get full salary

2880
05:06:57,680 --> 05:07:00,060
or whatever if they're now disabled.

2881
05:07:01,340 --> 05:07:06,320
And frankly, if there aren't already provisions for officers to get injured on the job,

2882
05:07:06,520 --> 05:07:09,620
then shame on every legislator who hasn't provided for that.

2883
05:07:09,920 --> 05:07:14,560
But the reality is, as has been pointed out to you, this bill does a lot more.

2884
05:07:15,300 --> 05:07:24,680
I don't know any except for two of you, so I don't know this, but I suspect that some of you

2885
05:07:24,680 --> 05:07:28,880
may be sitting up there thinking that some of what has been said here is hyperbole.

2886
05:07:29,420 --> 05:07:35,640
When people say that, you know, people who just, the people in Minneapolis who called

2887
05:07:35,640 --> 05:07:39,700
out to Derek Chauvin, you know, could have been sued under this law.

2888
05:07:40,100 --> 05:07:43,800
I thought, I was the one who invented that one and you did it so well.

2889
05:07:45,000 --> 05:07:48,680
But I've been thinking of nothing but that for this whole weekend.

2890
05:07:49,980 --> 05:07:57,220
Here's why I don't think it's hyperbole, because your law says that harassment is defined

2891
05:07:57,220 --> 05:07:59,720
as it's defined in the New York State Pino law.

2892
05:08:00,020 --> 05:08:04,060
And what I think that nobody has pointed out yet, and I hope you all know this,

2893
05:08:04,060 --> 05:08:17,240
is that 240.26, number three, under New York State Peanut Law definition of harassment, says that a person can be found guilty of harassment if, and I quote,

2894
05:08:17,880 --> 05:08:28,060
he or she engages in a course of conduct or repeatedly commits acts which alarm or seriously annoy such other person.

2895
05:08:28,780 --> 05:08:32,860
You think Derek Sholvin wasn't annoyed by those people?

2896
05:08:33,700 --> 05:08:35,260
I think he probably was.

2897
05:08:35,760 --> 05:08:37,420
I think his colleagues were too.

2898
05:08:38,040 --> 05:08:41,240
And I think that the truly dangerous thing about this

2899
05:08:41,240 --> 05:08:46,260
is that whether it's a person who's being abused by those few

2900
05:08:46,260 --> 05:08:50,500
and please let me be clear, I understand most cops are good

2901
05:08:50,500 --> 05:08:54,200
just like I'm not all cops are bad type of person, right?

2902
05:08:54,580 --> 05:08:57,340
But we all understand that just like in any profession

2903
05:08:57,340 --> 05:09:02,600
there are bad apples, there are bad waiters, there are bad, you know, life cards, there are bad teachers.

2904
05:09:04,600 --> 05:09:07,020
Maybe, none of you, I'm sure.

2905
05:09:09,620 --> 05:09:12,080
But for those few bad apples,

2906
05:09:14,300 --> 05:09:18,500
this law, as written, will have a chilling effect on people trying to

2907
05:09:19,120 --> 05:09:22,680
call out to those bad apples and trying to call them to account.

2908
05:09:22,680 --> 05:09:26,740
If I see somebody, and I'm a privileged white lady, right?

2909
05:09:26,860 --> 05:09:30,660
If I see a police officer abusing his badge,

2910
05:09:31,220 --> 05:09:32,860
and I call out to him.

2911
05:09:33,320 --> 05:09:37,660
I could now be sued by him because I've annoyed him, right?

2912
05:09:38,040 --> 05:09:40,740
And I could be subject to $25,000 fine.

2913
05:09:40,960 --> 05:09:43,640
And the chilling effect is that I think,

2914
05:09:43,740 --> 05:09:47,260
and if you're honest with yourselves, I hope you realize this, too,

2915
05:09:47,820 --> 05:09:51,700
that if this law has been in effect in Minneapolis in 2020,

2916
05:09:52,600 --> 05:10:00,160
Darnella Frazier, probably would not, or maybe likely, would not have had the courage to keep on recording.

2917
05:10:01,420 --> 05:10:06,580
Derek Shovan would have walked. He would have walked.

2918
05:10:07,680 --> 05:10:16,400
And I sure as heck hope, as an almost lifelong resident in Masso County, that is there is not one person sitting up there right now,

2919
05:10:16,720 --> 05:10:18,800
who thinks that that would have been a good thing.

2920
05:10:19,940 --> 05:10:20,640
Thank you.

2921
05:10:27,140 --> 05:10:29,300
Just to McGiven,

2922
05:10:35,330 --> 05:10:36,470
just to McGiven,

2923
05:10:39,740 --> 05:10:40,860
Kevin Shakir.

2924
05:10:54,340 --> 05:10:55,240
A salamalacam.

2925
05:10:57,480 --> 05:10:59,040
This is the message of peace.

2926
05:11:01,080 --> 05:11:02,140
I'm from Westbury.

2927
05:11:03,340 --> 05:11:04,780
Let's just let Abhinos my legislator.

2928
05:11:05,480 --> 05:11:09,180
Thank you so much for always being on the right side of history.

2929
05:11:18,520 --> 05:11:20,580
One ask all of you up here today.

2930
05:11:21,900 --> 05:11:25,700
If you have kids who just turned 16,

2931
05:11:26,980 --> 05:11:28,780
did you have to have to talk with them?

2932
05:11:30,280 --> 05:11:32,040
What does that talk?

2933
05:11:33,120 --> 05:11:39,380
That guys, if you get pulled over, make sure you roll down all your windows, turn the car off,

2934
05:11:39,560 --> 05:11:41,720
and put your hands on your steering wheel.

2935
05:11:43,770 --> 05:11:47,670
That's the conversation I had with my father when I turned 16 years old.

2936
05:11:48,450 --> 05:11:51,390
I didn't understand what that meant at that time.

2937
05:11:52,130 --> 05:11:53,490
I do today.

2938
05:11:54,210 --> 05:12:03,390
had and I got it pulled over and a cop looked at me as a threat. I might not be here today.

2939
05:12:06,470 --> 05:12:13,510
Legislative Laphison were both millennials. We grew up in the same time. Just different school districts.

2940
05:12:14,130 --> 05:12:19,210
I grew up a black people in Hispanics. You grew up with white people. Ain't nothing wrong with that.

2941
05:12:20,350 --> 05:12:22,010
You don't live my life, brother,

2942
05:12:24,520 --> 05:12:28,060
and the thing that I'm astonished, astonished, astonished

2943
05:12:28,860 --> 05:12:33,040
is how the heck did this even get put forward?

2944
05:12:38,640 --> 05:12:43,300
I'm a member of an organization called Empowering Young Professionals, where we try to

2945
05:12:43,300 --> 05:12:44,800
hold government accountable.

2946
05:12:46,460 --> 05:12:54,000
If this gets past today, how can I go back to my membership and say how to be, how

2947
05:12:54,000 --> 05:12:55,520
How can we hold government accountable?

2948
05:12:56,200 --> 05:12:57,600
They're going to tell me, cab, you're crazy.

2949
05:12:59,920 --> 05:13:02,180
I don't have 25K to dish out.

2950
05:13:04,530 --> 05:13:07,670
Do you guys have 25K to dish out if one of your kids?

2951
05:13:08,310 --> 05:13:09,650
One of your cousins did it?

2952
05:13:10,430 --> 05:13:10,770
Maybe.

2953
05:13:11,870 --> 05:13:12,990
I damn sure don't.

2954
05:13:14,350 --> 05:13:16,770
A lot of people in my community damn sure don't.

2955
05:13:16,870 --> 05:13:17,610
Excuse my language.

2956
05:13:21,170 --> 05:13:22,150
This is a mockery.

2957
05:13:23,710 --> 05:13:25,630
You want to talk about the life I live?

2958
05:13:26,270 --> 05:13:33,710
I started the first Islamic radio session in America because Muslims in America don't have a voice

2959
05:13:36,590 --> 05:13:40,630
and to propose something like this against black and brown folks.

2960
05:13:41,810 --> 05:13:42,710
It's a mockery.

2961
05:13:45,500 --> 05:13:49,120
Let me tell you a little story. 9-11. I was in fourth grade.

2962
05:13:50,600 --> 05:13:54,900
I had no idea where religion was. I knew I was Muslim.

2963
05:13:56,040 --> 05:14:00,000
But did I have an idea of what my religion was?

2964
05:14:00,560 --> 05:14:03,240
Of who Osama bin Laden was?

2965
05:14:03,620 --> 05:14:06,080
As fourth grade, nine years old, eight years old?

2966
05:14:06,420 --> 05:14:06,960
No idea.

2967
05:14:08,280 --> 05:14:09,900
But I got bullied for it.

2968
05:14:11,300 --> 05:14:12,900
I got to hate for it.

2969
05:14:14,360 --> 05:14:15,020
But guess what?

2970
05:14:15,300 --> 05:14:15,940
I made a stronger.

2971
05:14:17,100 --> 05:14:19,460
And made us come out here to say,

2972
05:14:19,920 --> 05:14:21,480
No, what's wrong is wrong.

2973
05:14:23,590 --> 05:14:24,390
This is wrong.

2974
05:14:25,730 --> 05:14:31,090
I've had conversations with people, and I did not mention this bill that was going on today.

2975
05:14:31,670 --> 05:14:36,050
I just said, hey, where do you think this law is passed in, in what country?

2976
05:14:37,230 --> 05:14:38,870
None of them said it in the United States of America.

2977
05:14:40,730 --> 05:14:46,110
And if I didn't see this beautiful American flag behind us, and this law gets passed today,

2978
05:14:46,410 --> 05:14:48,030
I don't think when the United States of America.

2979
05:14:52,190 --> 05:14:56,430
Just on Friday, in my office, what I witnessed,

2980
05:14:58,970 --> 05:14:59,970
we have a real thing.

2981
05:15:00,000 --> 05:15:04,580
The agents in my office. They were supposed to show houses here in NASA County.

2982
05:15:05,740 --> 05:15:11,940
Three of them called and said, hey, what this bill that's going into place were not welcome to NASA County.

2983
05:15:12,160 --> 05:15:16,320
Please find me a property out in Queens. Please find me a property in Connecticut.

2984
05:15:16,720 --> 05:15:20,280
Or please give me, you are finding something anywhere except NASA County.

2985
05:15:21,240 --> 05:15:23,800
This is a precedent that we're going to be setting.

2986
05:15:26,340 --> 05:15:31,200
Do you want to be labeled as the county that does not like minorities?

2987
05:15:32,580 --> 05:15:36,240
You tell me guys, or do you want to be inclusive?

2988
05:15:37,120 --> 05:15:39,200
Do you want to welcome everybody?

2989
05:15:39,760 --> 05:15:41,020
And it is beautiful county.

2990
05:15:42,620 --> 05:15:44,300
You guys are the legislators here today.

2991
05:15:44,760 --> 05:15:48,280
What you guys do today will affect you guys for the rest of your lives

2992
05:15:48,280 --> 05:15:52,620
and your names will go down in history on being on the right side

2993
05:15:52,620 --> 05:15:54,020
or the wrong side of history.

2994
05:15:54,540 --> 05:15:55,900
Please be on the right side.

2995
05:16:03,610 --> 05:16:05,030
Excuse me, I know I'm at a order.

2996
05:16:05,070 --> 05:16:06,510
We have children here.

2997
05:16:06,510 --> 05:16:10,770
One is fortunate enough this summer to work with Judge Giannelli.

2998
05:16:11,190 --> 05:16:11,930
They have to leave.

2999
05:16:12,010 --> 05:16:14,730
They didn't know what the process and the procedure in tail.

3000
05:16:15,110 --> 05:16:20,770
If someone can yield their time to two students that approach me and say, can we please

3001
05:16:20,770 --> 05:16:24,730
speak by the time they've built out the form, it was considerably late.

3002
05:16:25,090 --> 05:16:31,910
They're working for Judge Giannelli now and attorney Irwin, they're bright, caring kids

3003
05:16:31,910 --> 05:16:41,610
that want to participate, they participate in my trial all year long till 7 and 830 at night

3004
05:16:41,610 --> 05:16:47,010
at Holy Trinity, but they have to go home now. So when they asked me could they speak and

3005
05:16:47,010 --> 05:16:53,010
I believe in law enforcement. I was blessed to work with the first black detective butler

3006
05:16:53,010 --> 05:16:59,110
in him instead, Coleman, who's since retired, Hamilton. So if you could please let them speak,

3007
05:16:59,110 --> 05:17:00,170
I'd be most appreciated.

3008
05:17:00,790 --> 05:17:02,850
Let me ask, there's other steps here.

3009
05:17:03,030 --> 05:17:05,150
Is everyone else willing to let them go first?

3010
05:17:06,350 --> 05:17:07,230
All right.

3011
05:17:07,350 --> 05:17:07,870
Go ahead.

3012
05:17:11,760 --> 05:17:13,740
You submit, you submit the steps, right?

3013
05:17:18,540 --> 05:17:22,020
So what's your name so we could go on this list?

3014
05:17:22,240 --> 05:17:23,760
My name is Chelsea McNair.

3015
05:17:23,980 --> 05:17:24,100
OK.

3016
05:17:24,420 --> 05:17:25,260
Have you had your name?

3017
05:17:27,270 --> 05:17:28,630
My name is David Reina.

3018
05:17:29,310 --> 05:17:30,650
Thank you.

3019
05:17:31,530 --> 05:17:32,050
Good evening.

3020
05:17:32,610 --> 05:17:36,810
I know we've all been here a very long time and we're all tired

3021
05:17:36,810 --> 05:17:44,050
want to vote and hopefully that this bill will be denied, but what I've learned in school is

3022
05:17:44,050 --> 05:17:49,150
the best way to learn something is to hear it over and over and over again. And you have heard

3023
05:17:49,150 --> 05:17:52,190
over and over and over again why this bill shouldn't go through.

3024
05:17:57,990 --> 05:17:59,050
I would like to start off by saying

3025
05:17:59,050 --> 05:18:05,590
I highly respect law enforcement and I understand, well, not really, but I try to understand what you

3026
05:18:05,590 --> 05:18:11,170
go through every day, but imagine what it's like to walk down the street. And to remember you can't

3027
05:18:11,170 --> 05:18:16,030
your hands in your pocket and you can't have your hood on and you can't have your

3028
05:18:16,750 --> 05:18:20,490
hoodie zipped up because it looks suspicious when you walk down the street.

3029
05:18:22,350 --> 05:18:27,090
Two days ago my mom told me that we were going to come here because there was a

3030
05:18:27,090 --> 05:18:32,650
bill being put up before you guys and I was confused so I decided to look up the

3031
05:18:32,650 --> 05:18:36,630
bill and look at the bill and see what it was about and then I was even more

3032
05:18:36,630 --> 05:18:41,150
confused because it didn't make any sense. So I decided to educate myself

3033
05:18:41,150 --> 05:18:47,530
because that's what I like to do and the broad terms in the bill didn't make any sense.

3034
05:18:47,710 --> 05:18:54,250
It does not take years in law school or years just being alive in general to understand

3035
05:18:54,250 --> 05:19:00,030
that that law is so broad in its terms that it can't possibly make any sense to any of you

3036
05:19:00,030 --> 05:19:01,190
sitting before them.

3037
05:19:05,920 --> 05:19:09,260
The only thing that was defined in that bill was the amount of money and

3038
05:19:09,260 --> 05:19:11,380
compensation that these officers could get.

3039
05:19:15,620 --> 05:19:18,620
Now I made youth in turn with Nassau County and I was

3040
05:19:18,620 --> 05:19:26,280
that the National County Supreme Court, and I am an intern to Veronica Renter Irwin, and she is

3041
05:19:26,280 --> 05:19:34,740
the principal law clerk to judge GNLE. Now, in my time there, it's been six days. Maybe I've

3042
05:19:34,740 --> 05:19:40,240
realized that when cases come before them, if they have a question about what the law says, they

3043
05:19:40,240 --> 05:19:45,780
look it up. Now, if this goes through, and a case like that comes before them, and they look it up,

3044
05:19:45,780 --> 05:19:55,460
And this bill comes, they have no choice but to grant the decision, because it just says, hey, you might as well, how does that make sense?

3045
05:19:55,900 --> 05:20:05,180
I have to write essays in high school that have more character and definition to, by point of what I'm trying to say in my essays than this bill does.

3046
05:20:09,510 --> 05:20:18,670
And the fact that discrimination against police officers is held to a higher standard than discrimination against people of a certain race gender, sexuality, disability and any other protected group.

3047
05:20:18,670 --> 05:20:20,230
Does not make any sense.

3048
05:20:21,410 --> 05:20:21,750
Thank you.

3049
05:20:30,580 --> 05:20:35,600
Today, I believe that we have seen in a ray of different points made by a lot of different people.

3050
05:20:36,440 --> 05:20:40,440
Now, like what Chelsea said in the way that we learned in schools at U.B.P.

3051
05:20:41,020 --> 05:20:42,960
and you study over and over again.

3052
05:20:44,100 --> 05:20:52,360
I believe that when it comes to the emotional side of this, we have seen people up here and become emotional here.

3053
05:20:56,040 --> 05:20:59,460
I believe that this bill is unfair.

3054
05:21:00,060 --> 05:21:09,000
We have seen people fight for their future and right now I feel so that I'm fighting not only for now the present but for the future.

3055
05:21:11,240 --> 05:21:12,720
I have a question to the legislation.

3056
05:21:13,460 --> 05:21:14,660
What do you consider harassment?

3057
05:21:15,560 --> 05:21:19,920
We have seen here in America and in NASA County the impact of police brutality.

3058
05:21:20,800 --> 05:21:23,080
And we have not seen much done.

3059
05:21:23,080 --> 05:21:27,240
But a glance at a police officer could potentially lead someone to become bankrupt.

3060
05:21:28,120 --> 05:21:32,840
You are telling me, as to listen is more menacing that a human being would go up and

3061
05:21:32,840 --> 05:21:33,980
hold search of their waste.

3062
05:21:34,920 --> 05:21:35,660
We are scared.

3063
05:21:36,360 --> 05:21:37,860
Young people are afraid.

3064
05:21:38,500 --> 05:21:42,620
I do not be here, standing here before you, defending my basic human rights.

3065
05:21:44,380 --> 05:21:50,640
I was promised a future of equality, and I don't believe that I should stand here before

3066
05:21:50,640 --> 05:21:52,800
you fighting for that.

3067
05:21:55,530 --> 05:21:58,770
And for the benefit of these police officers here, why are we getting

3068
05:21:58,770 --> 05:21:59,250
punished?

3069
05:22:01,720 --> 05:22:05,260
Why are my human rights out for debate? Thank you.

3070
05:22:17,880 --> 05:22:20,900
Joseph Sackman.

3071
05:22:26,930 --> 05:22:31,150
Good evening. My name is Joseph Sackman. I am a student committee member of Long Island

3072
05:22:31,150 --> 05:22:36,070
activists. I also said I'm the executive board of NIP and your progressive action network.

3073
05:22:37,110 --> 05:22:44,350
When I learned about this bill in June, I was very surprised that it was even the foot-fourth.

3074
05:22:45,710 --> 05:22:48,330
And a lot of us were surprised to me anywhere.

3075
05:22:49,410 --> 05:22:52,790
And then this week, when we find that it goes through committee and now we're all here,

3076
05:22:53,650 --> 05:22:58,390
it took great effort for many people to do a lot in a short period of time.

3077
05:22:59,470 --> 05:23:05,110
Organizing and going out, and I went out and I fired Mr. Drucker's district

3078
05:23:05,110 --> 05:23:13,850
And others, and when I talked to individuals about this, they were extremely surprised that the legislature would put this forward.

3079
05:23:14,850 --> 05:23:22,150
They couldn't believe that what we're doing was taking our democracy and stepping on it.

3080
05:23:22,430 --> 05:23:27,070
To move us towards a police state, North O'erterian state, and that's what this is doing.

3081
05:23:27,230 --> 05:23:29,850
It's a step towards that.

3082
05:23:29,850 --> 05:23:39,890
We will be perverting our human rights and I entirely believe that this law is repugnant to the constitution.

3083
05:23:40,570 --> 05:23:48,570
And if it is repugnant to the constitution, it is your responsibility to not pass this bill.

3084
05:23:49,110 --> 05:23:54,530
If you pass this bill, you are bringing our democracy down.

3085
05:23:54,530 --> 05:24:02,430
And we will take that to note, and we will remember that, and come November, you will see that in the ballot.

3086
05:24:03,530 --> 05:24:11,290
And if you are there, next time you will see us again going out there, defending our democracy, defending our republic,

3087
05:24:11,910 --> 05:24:13,730
and making sure they can pay for it.

3088
05:24:14,630 --> 05:24:16,870
Because we are here to defend our democracy.

3089
05:24:17,850 --> 05:24:24,070
That's what our riot is to do is for the Constitution, and you are looking to destroy

3090
05:24:24,070 --> 05:24:24,490
that.

3091
05:24:24,710 --> 05:24:26,170
I cannot believe it.

3092
05:24:26,570 --> 05:24:31,410
I can't believe Mr. Drucker, who I have spoken with, who I've seen out there would

3093
05:24:31,410 --> 05:24:31,950
do this.

3094
05:24:32,050 --> 05:24:32,930
I am very surprised.

3095
05:24:33,130 --> 05:24:37,970
That's one of the things I blew my mind, and that this was even coming forward.

3096
05:24:39,090 --> 05:24:40,070
It is a shame.

3097
05:24:40,550 --> 05:24:43,650
I can go on and on, but I'm not going to because you've heard it all.

3098
05:24:43,650 --> 05:24:49,030
All the reasons not to do this, and if it does go forward, we will continue to fight.

3099
05:24:49,590 --> 05:24:57,490
And we will make sure that you know that you have just, I'm so emotional about this,

3100
05:24:58,170 --> 05:25:02,910
because I have fought for this constitution, previously, for over several years,

3101
05:25:03,090 --> 05:25:08,190
trying to amend it against corruption laws, and now you're just one little bill,

3102
05:25:08,850 --> 05:25:11,670
and you're going to take us down and further away from our democracy.

3103
05:25:12,430 --> 05:25:16,650
Vote now on this. All of you vote now on this. Thank you.

3104
05:25:22,980 --> 05:25:24,620
Richard Clawlery.

3105
05:25:46,400 --> 05:25:49,460
Don't go. Ladies and gentlemen.

3106
05:25:50,120 --> 05:25:51,060
Do you mention you can't do that?

3107
05:25:52,380 --> 05:25:52,880
I'm sorry.

3108
05:25:53,520 --> 05:25:56,100
That's straight to the point. I don't want to give you people's time.

3109
05:25:56,380 --> 05:25:56,740
All of you.

3110
05:25:59,220 --> 05:26:00,340
Did the members of the lecture say,

3111
05:26:00,420 --> 05:26:04,180
you want to kind of come before you to encourage you to increase funding for the buzzers

3112
05:26:04,180 --> 05:26:05,080
you now as a county?

3113
05:26:05,640 --> 05:26:06,520
Do we do this for this?

3114
05:26:07,160 --> 05:26:10,260
Do we think for this is becoming more obvious for every day?

3115
05:26:10,260 --> 05:26:14,360
cars are becoming more expensive, not just because of insurance maintenance, etc.

3116
05:26:15,040 --> 05:26:19,620
But the simple fact that, because of how complicated cars have become,

3117
05:26:19,900 --> 05:26:23,380
and because of the pandemic, car prices have reached all-time highs, even used ones.

3118
05:26:23,900 --> 05:26:28,140
Because cars are one of the few reliable motors here on the island,

3119
05:26:28,380 --> 05:26:30,540
aside from cabs, the bus service in the Uber.

3120
05:26:31,360 --> 05:26:34,100
This presents a huge problem for young people who want to stay on the island,

3121
05:26:34,600 --> 05:26:37,520
as this well has increased people from the island.

3122
05:26:37,520 --> 05:26:44,860
So, I should want people to stay here on the island and collect from them the revenue you need to keep this kind of going.

3123
05:26:45,300 --> 05:26:50,720
Then you need to, at the next budget being, you need to make a series of investment in buses here on the island.

3124
05:26:51,300 --> 05:26:56,680
So, there are a, all the lines that were cut, which by the way, the M50 was cut quite a long time ago.

3125
05:26:56,960 --> 05:27:03,020
And our next, we'll be restored. There are B, there all buses will be available even on the weekends.

3126
05:27:03,420 --> 05:27:07,040
And that there are B buses at night so that people who come home at night

3127
05:27:07,040 --> 05:27:10,200
won't always depend on their vehicle or cab service, get them home.

3128
05:27:10,520 --> 05:27:12,780
Speaking about the meetings, I tried to look to look

3129
05:27:12,780 --> 05:27:16,320
on the meetings that your own money did is, and it's never there, on there.

3130
05:27:17,080 --> 05:27:22,380
Could you people tell what day it is, so as I, as a responsible citizen here, and as a county

3131
05:27:22,380 --> 05:27:27,780
come parts of the prison process, thank you, and have a good day. And for everyone here,

3132
05:27:50,210 --> 05:27:56,270
Good afternoon, everybody.

3133
05:28:04,570 --> 05:28:13,830
I have been waiting some time to be here and say this, but there's a lot of my mind that is already been said, but I want to bring something else forward in this conversation.

3134
05:28:13,830 --> 05:28:19,110
Pastor Ark of Arthur Mackie mentioned this earlier, but I am absolutely

3135
05:28:19,110 --> 05:28:26,870
incensed that this bill can come forward and sit here in this body right now and

3136
05:28:26,870 --> 05:28:32,310
every single one of you has not addressed a single question asked to you. I'm

3137
05:28:32,310 --> 05:28:37,110
incensed that that can happen and I'm very disturbed that we have not talked

3138
05:28:37,110 --> 05:28:43,330
about the fact that right here in Nassau County we have killer cops on our

3139
05:28:44,510 --> 05:28:54,270
In February of 2020, 19-year-old Matthew Felix was targeted, surveilled, and he was murdered by

3140
05:28:54,270 --> 05:28:55,470
Nassau County Police.

3141
05:28:56,150 --> 05:29:00,290
He was killed by officers who are still on the force today.

3142
05:29:00,890 --> 05:29:05,690
The officers who sold Matthew's life, their names, we fought an entire year,

3143
05:29:09,770 --> 05:29:09,990
and it's

3144
05:29:09,990 --> 05:29:17,310
playing, Alejandro Perez, John G. Evangelio, and Robert Somas, and every single one of them

3145
05:29:17,310 --> 05:29:24,230
has space no consequences for the murder of Matthew Felix. It's disgusting that we're

3146
05:29:24,230 --> 05:29:30,590
introducing a bill to protect officers when young men like Matthew Felix had no protection

3147
05:29:30,590 --> 05:29:37,450
and left their lives to these racist police officers. It's disgusting because tell me how someone

3148
05:29:37,450 --> 05:29:39,950
like Rundee's Jones has no protection.

3149
05:29:40,490 --> 05:29:42,690
For those of you who don't know Rundee's his case,

3150
05:29:43,230 --> 05:29:45,430
his feet were tamed by nine officers.

3151
05:29:45,990 --> 05:29:48,930
He was held down brutally beat, called the N-word

3152
05:29:48,930 --> 05:29:51,010
and racial slurs over and over again.

3153
05:29:51,210 --> 05:29:55,690
He has PTSD because of what your officers have done to him.

3154
05:29:56,470 --> 05:29:58,750
That's what happened in this county right here.

3155
05:29:58,990 --> 05:29:59,970
We're not talking about George.

3156
05:30:00,520 --> 05:30:29,980
We're not talking about Minneapolis, we're not talking about anywhere else in the country, but right here. And so when I say that, that we're going to come and waste everybody's time to say that police officers need protection. When we have two young boys, the tele-rebois, who are beat by police and kidnapped by police, right here in our own community, it's disgusting. It's disgusting. Because in the middle of a pandemic, in the middle of a pandemic, we should be here talking about what you're talking about.

3157
05:30:30,000 --> 05:30:35,020
We're going to do about the millions of people across the country and the thousands right here

3158
05:30:35,020 --> 05:30:40,320
in Nassau County who will be evicted, come August, come the end of August, that's

3159
05:30:40,320 --> 05:30:43,160
what we should be talking about when we're here in this body.

3160
05:30:43,520 --> 05:30:48,360
But yeah, we're talking about the supposed rights and protection of police officers.

3161
05:30:48,720 --> 05:30:56,320
It's disgusting and it is so deeply wrong that we can see here and claim like people like

3162
05:30:56,320 --> 05:31:02,900
Josh can sit there and claim to care one ounce about black lives or about people at all that

3163
05:31:02,900 --> 05:31:03,520
live here.

3164
05:31:03,660 --> 05:31:09,080
And we can't talk about the fact that so many of us struggle with unemployment during

3165
05:31:09,080 --> 05:31:09,860
this pandemic.

3166
05:31:10,340 --> 05:31:13,180
How many of us have struggles with the food on the table for our families?

3167
05:31:13,380 --> 05:31:16,440
And we're going to waste everybody's time talking about this.

3168
05:31:16,540 --> 05:31:18,640
It's horrible and it's atrocious.

3169
05:31:19,320 --> 05:31:23,780
And I want to say to end out my statements that every single one of you that votes for this

3170
05:31:23,780 --> 05:31:26,900
you are a traitor to your people.

3171
05:31:27,280 --> 05:31:29,420
You're a traitor to the people here in Nassau County.

3172
05:31:29,720 --> 05:31:32,360
You're a traitor and you've made that very clear.

3173
05:31:32,900 --> 05:31:35,400
You are no different than the bigots who support

3174
05:31:35,400 --> 05:31:36,860
and segregation that you condemn.

3175
05:31:37,260 --> 05:31:40,060
You are no different in any way shape or form.

3176
05:31:40,380 --> 05:31:43,040
And Josh and specifically, you are a grifter.

3177
05:31:43,640 --> 05:31:47,280
You are a hypocrite and truly an opportunist of the highest order.

3178
05:31:47,900 --> 05:31:51,040
That is what you are and you need to take ownership of that

3179
05:31:51,040 --> 05:31:56,480
because the reality is is that while we're on the precipice of a mass housing crisis,

3180
05:31:56,960 --> 05:32:02,040
we are literally sitting here talking about a bill that doesn't nothing other than criminalized

3181
05:32:02,040 --> 05:32:07,080
protests, it does nothing other than the robots of our civil rights and does nothing other than

3182
05:32:07,080 --> 05:32:11,120
literally insults every single victim of a hate crime we have in Nassau County.

3183
05:32:12,540 --> 05:32:18,480
We had a mosque here in Nassau County deal with a hate crime. It's an insults to that mosque.

3184
05:32:18,480 --> 05:32:24,240
A young lady who had asked it through on her face is an insult to the young lady who had asked it through on her face.

3185
05:32:24,760 --> 05:32:28,440
I have friends and family members of mine who have experienced hate crimes.

3186
05:32:29,200 --> 05:32:34,180
Young Chinese woman who was literally pushed over while getting vaccinated by a racist,

3187
05:32:34,180 --> 05:32:38,680
broke her wrist because of who she was. That's a hate crime.

3188
05:32:39,300 --> 05:32:46,460
And so as an Asian-American here in Nassau County, I can't sit here and deal with the level of disgust that I feel

3189
05:32:46,460 --> 05:32:50,640
for the fact that we're going to redefine hate crimes to be about police officers.

3190
05:32:51,300 --> 05:32:55,420
So I want to end my sentence on this and end my statements on this that you may all feel very

3191
05:32:55,420 --> 05:33:00,040
safe in your jobs today. You may feel like you hold all the cards that you can stick back

3192
05:33:00,040 --> 05:33:06,100
and bask in your power to do what the PBA and police interest pay you to do. That's what happens.

3193
05:33:06,100 --> 05:33:12,980
They pay your paycheck. But the reality is is that fundamentally you can only be on top for so long

3194
05:33:12,980 --> 05:33:14,840
because the people are coming for you.

3195
05:33:14,980 --> 05:33:17,540
And next time, when we have tens of thousands of people in the streets,

3196
05:33:17,860 --> 05:33:19,800
they're coming right for you and your offices.

3197
05:33:20,160 --> 05:33:22,360
Because that's what happens to people who are a traitor

3198
05:33:22,360 --> 05:33:24,480
to the people that they're supposed to represent.

3199
05:33:25,060 --> 05:33:26,020
Thank you.

3200
05:33:32,440 --> 05:33:33,320
Jeremy Joseph.

3201
05:33:33,860 --> 05:33:34,780
Jeremy Joseph.

3202
05:33:49,910 --> 05:33:51,310
Hi. My name is Jeremy Joseph.

3203
05:33:51,870 --> 05:33:52,890
I'm a scientist.

3204
05:33:53,430 --> 05:33:57,270
I'm a member of LA United and NASA, DSA.

3205
05:33:57,770 --> 05:33:58,910
I reside in Hicksville.

3206
05:33:58,910 --> 05:34:06,690
And then my constituent of legislative drucker, who has not turned any of my daily calls this past week,

3207
05:34:07,190 --> 05:34:09,250
so I had to make sure to be here in person.

3208
05:34:10,570 --> 05:34:15,930
So when I first heard of this legislation at the beginning of this summer, I had one response.

3209
05:34:16,510 --> 05:34:17,150
I laughed.

3210
05:34:17,970 --> 05:34:23,170
I cannot believe that something so extreme could even see the light of day,

3211
05:34:23,670 --> 05:34:27,890
and surely no one in their right mind would give this bill a second thought.

3212
05:34:27,890 --> 05:34:35,670
This legislation is straight out of fascist playbook, not something you'd expect to see in a diverse community like ours.

3213
05:34:36,510 --> 05:34:44,290
Two months later, I stand here a full for underestimating just how little our representatives represent us.

3214
05:34:46,520 --> 05:34:46,680
All right,

3215
05:34:49,090 --> 05:34:58,550
so it's become increasingly clear that you do not understand the gravity of the issues that we've been speaking about regarding the bias in policing.

3216
05:34:58,550 --> 05:35:06,090
And to some extent I get it, it's hard to understand something that you've never personally experienced.

3217
05:35:06,730 --> 05:35:16,110
Our characterizations of the police probably seem completely foreign to you, to you the police uphold the law and protect your communities.

3218
05:35:17,050 --> 05:35:25,230
For us in this room, we do not have that same police, and that is why we are here over and over again.

3219
05:35:26,090 --> 05:35:32,750
So, I grew up with this inherent trust of the police as an institution.

3220
05:35:34,310 --> 05:35:40,530
As a teenager, I might have seen this law today, and probably not even given it a second thought.

3221
05:35:41,410 --> 05:35:44,350
Thankfully, we all have a chance to grow.

3222
05:35:45,390 --> 05:35:54,390
I was exposed to the realities of racial bias in policing and what policing meant for someone like me as a young man.

3223
05:35:55,050 --> 05:35:56,890
So, here's a personal story.

3224
05:35:57,850 --> 05:36:01,230
As a young adult, I was leaving a store, late at night,

3225
05:36:01,990 --> 05:36:06,770
and in a parking lot, I was attacked by a group of white men, unprovoked.

3226
05:36:07,530 --> 05:36:10,730
Well, it's not completely true. They're provoked by this,

3227
05:36:11,130 --> 05:36:12,190
by the color of my skin.

3228
05:36:14,550 --> 05:36:16,910
And language warning for those in the room,

3229
05:36:18,110 --> 05:36:22,390
they attack me and let me know because they wanted to,

3230
05:36:22,390 --> 05:36:24,230
In their words, fuck up that nigger.

3231
05:36:27,000 --> 05:36:31,460
Bystanders call the police, and I would point you to the police report,

3232
05:36:32,080 --> 05:36:33,280
except it doesn't exist.

3233
05:36:35,540 --> 05:36:39,920
We couldn't convince the cops to charge my attackers with anything

3234
05:36:39,920 --> 05:36:42,000
much less a hate crime.

3235
05:36:43,100 --> 05:36:45,420
In fact, they ended up chatting with my attackers

3236
05:36:45,420 --> 05:36:46,900
like they were old friends.

3237
05:36:48,420 --> 05:36:49,900
All right, so in case I wasn't clear, let me recap.

3238
05:36:50,800 --> 05:36:53,800
I was attacked by white men with beer bottles,

3239
05:36:53,800 --> 05:37:00,820
because I did not look like them, and then white men with guns came and protected them from consequences.

3240
05:37:03,240 --> 05:37:07,780
I learned that day that the police were not there to protect me.

3241
05:37:08,140 --> 05:37:12,880
They were never there, but to protect me, they were never designed to.

3242
05:37:13,520 --> 05:37:19,260
Hey, crime laws are meant for historically oppressed minority populations.

3243
05:37:19,260 --> 05:37:24,960
They are meant to protect people who have not been protected by the law.

3244
05:37:25,880 --> 05:37:31,040
The police officers here, they'll be the first to tell you that they represent the law.

3245
05:37:31,680 --> 05:37:33,000
So let's make it more simple.

3246
05:37:33,380 --> 05:37:39,240
Hate crime laws are meant to protect people who have not been protected by the police.

3247
05:37:43,300 --> 05:37:43,900
And

3248
05:37:46,490 --> 05:37:49,630
police do not protect us from hate crimes.

3249
05:37:49,630 --> 05:37:56,470
I can tell you first hand, they are often in obstacle to the justice that we seek.

3250
05:37:59,560 --> 05:38:09,460
I mean, if you amend these human rights laws to enhance their status, you are weaponizing

3251
05:38:09,460 --> 05:38:14,600
this designation against the very people it's meant to protect.

3252
05:38:15,800 --> 05:38:27,040
Okay, so, if you want to protect communities from hate crimes, well, you had the chance to do the bare minimum a few months ago and you rejected it.

3253
05:38:27,280 --> 05:38:40,880
Many of us here in this room, we were here with proposals for training cops to recognize and report hate crimes to fully document these instances and make them publicly known for the benefit of affected communities.

3254
05:38:40,880 --> 05:38:44,100
And you all rejected it.

3255
05:38:44,580 --> 05:38:46,120
Well, not all of you.

3256
05:38:46,620 --> 05:38:50,300
There are three legislators here who agree

3257
05:38:50,300 --> 05:38:54,060
that our hate crime procedures among other things were deficient.

3258
05:38:54,060 --> 05:38:57,340
It is no coincidence that they are the three black legislators

3259
05:38:57,340 --> 05:38:58,680
sitting in front of us.

3260
05:38:58,940 --> 05:39:01,360
They told you that our police do not make them

3261
05:39:01,360 --> 05:39:02,660
or their families feel safe.

3262
05:39:03,340 --> 05:39:06,180
We told you that our police do not make us

3263
05:39:06,180 --> 05:39:07,820
or our families feel safe.

3264
05:39:07,820 --> 05:39:09,200
Please, please sum up, sir.

3265
05:39:11,240 --> 05:39:12,720
Now only do you ignore us.

3266
05:39:12,960 --> 05:39:16,460
You're now taking extra steps to entrench their virtually unchecked power.

3267
05:39:17,240 --> 05:39:20,580
Even today, I suspect we'll see the same vote.

3268
05:39:21,620 --> 05:39:24,300
If you want to continue to vote along these lines,

3269
05:39:24,860 --> 05:39:31,020
the next time, we'll skip the pretenses and we'll bring 16 white hoods for you all.

3270
05:39:35,240 --> 05:39:35,880
Any case?

3271
05:39:36,040 --> 05:39:38,240
All right Mr. Joseph, you're done.

3272
05:39:38,800 --> 05:39:41,720
I'll be mad. I'll be even mad your next.

3273
05:39:41,840 --> 05:39:42,940
It's not yours if you're done.

3274
05:39:43,660 --> 05:39:44,480
You're done.

3275
05:39:44,680 --> 05:39:45,640
I'm going to say one last thing.

3276
05:39:45,820 --> 05:39:47,320
No, no, no, no, no. You said your last thing.

3277
05:39:47,560 --> 05:39:48,700
So sit down, please.

3278
05:39:49,960 --> 05:39:51,580
Mr. Ahmed, please come up.

3279
05:39:51,740 --> 05:39:53,160
Mr. Joseph, you're done.

3280
05:39:56,210 --> 05:39:57,350
No, no, no, no, no, no.

3281
05:39:57,350 --> 05:40:00,250
There's a five minute time limit for every speaker.

3282
05:40:00,970 --> 05:40:02,790
Every speaker gets five minutes.

3283
05:40:03,430 --> 05:40:06,750
I have not been forcing it, but I'm going to stop because everyone is violating.

3284
05:40:07,210 --> 05:40:08,930
Five minutes, sir. You had your five minutes.

3285
05:40:08,930 --> 05:40:13,420
Please sit down. Please sit down, Mr. Joe.

3286
05:40:13,580 --> 05:40:15,340
All right, so in case there are times.

3287
05:40:15,700 --> 05:40:19,340
Mr. Joe, I'm telling you, if you don't sit down.

3288
05:40:19,580 --> 05:40:24,640
Excuse me. Someone yielded. Someone yielded their time.

3289
05:40:25,080 --> 05:40:29,360
I'm going to have others to take someone else's time. You will allow him.

3290
05:40:29,760 --> 05:40:32,200
Ma'am, thank you. Mr. Joe, please sit down.

3291
05:40:32,620 --> 05:40:36,060
I need to get protection of my characterization, so consider this.

3292
05:40:36,080 --> 05:40:38,020
My attackers chase me in a parking lot.

3293
05:40:38,020 --> 05:40:45,360
and words for five minutes. You're yes vote on this first responders bill today. We've

3294
05:40:45,360 --> 05:40:50,920
millions of people feeling unsafe in their own communities for years to come. That is a scale

3295
05:40:50,920 --> 05:40:57,000
of violence that my attackers could only dream of. Okay, and in case you think this bill can be

3296
05:40:57,000 --> 05:41:01,220
amended, or it can, you know, I'm concerned that they'll be suggesting that this get table

3297
05:41:01,220 --> 05:41:06,580
and we'll see it come back again. We'll all gladly come back again. Now, there are not just some

3298
05:41:06,580 --> 05:41:09,280
and we problematic parts that can be exercised.

3299
05:41:09,440 --> 05:41:11,480
Let me show you this poster, Jones is a problem.

3300
05:41:12,040 --> 05:41:13,440
It cannot be fixed, Jones.

3301
05:41:13,620 --> 05:41:15,660
This car Bill has no business business leader,

3302
05:41:15,940 --> 05:41:18,300
the origin of the legislators who introduced it to Jones.

3303
05:41:18,620 --> 05:41:19,240
I'm done.

3304
05:41:22,020 --> 05:41:26,360
Mr. Nickello, you cannot start enforcing the rules.

3305
05:41:26,680 --> 05:41:29,420
Just because you don't specifically like what he said.

3306
05:41:29,420 --> 05:41:31,480
I have told this, Miss Gaudera.

3307
05:41:31,520 --> 05:41:33,340
I have told, and we thank you.

3308
05:41:33,340 --> 05:41:35,360
You understand what everybody just saw here happened.

3309
05:41:35,800 --> 05:41:36,040
Miss Gaudera.

3310
05:41:36,040 --> 05:41:38,400
You soon letting everybody out.

3311
05:41:38,960 --> 05:41:39,320
All right, you're right.

3312
05:41:39,500 --> 05:41:40,500
From now on, thank you.

3313
05:41:40,500 --> 05:41:40,840
Thank you.

3314
05:41:40,840 --> 05:41:42,020
Thank you for reminding me.

3315
05:41:42,180 --> 05:41:44,240
From now on, at the five minute mark,

3316
05:41:44,880 --> 05:41:46,120
I'm stopping every speaker.

3317
05:41:47,180 --> 05:41:50,240
Because she's telling me I can't enforce this.

3318
05:41:50,240 --> 05:41:51,080
I'm not forcing rules.

3319
05:41:51,240 --> 05:41:52,180
I have to let everyone go over.

3320
05:41:52,620 --> 05:41:53,240
No, all right.

3321
05:41:53,360 --> 05:41:55,140
So if you want to play that game, we will.

3322
05:41:55,460 --> 05:41:56,760
Five minutes and you're done.

3323
05:41:57,440 --> 05:41:58,840
Mr. Ahmed, please.

3324
05:41:59,500 --> 05:42:00,360
Have you ever met?

3325
05:42:06,150 --> 05:42:06,370
All right.

3326
05:42:06,470 --> 05:42:07,430
I'm not going to enforce it.

3327
05:42:07,450 --> 05:42:08,390
I'll be sure that I can hear you.

3328
05:42:08,530 --> 05:42:10,290
It's going to be five minutes on the dot.

3329
05:42:10,330 --> 05:42:11,030
Thank you, Susan.

3330
05:42:11,030 --> 05:42:12,310
I pray much appreciate.

3331
05:42:16,980 --> 05:42:17,900
I'll be of a mad.

3332
05:42:20,820 --> 05:42:21,880
Mr. Love.

3333
05:42:23,180 --> 05:42:23,760
Dan Lloyd.

3334
05:42:32,750 --> 05:42:33,790
El Favario.

3335
05:42:44,570 --> 05:42:46,550
Excuse me, can you start a girl?

3336
05:42:47,550 --> 05:42:48,920
Sorry, I haven't started yet.

3337
05:42:52,820 --> 05:42:54,320
Hi everybody. My name is Elina Favario.

3338
05:42:54,440 --> 05:42:55,940
You're close. I used to stay there in pronouns.

3339
05:42:56,620 --> 05:42:59,260
I'm here as part of Long Island United and also representing myself.

3340
05:42:59,740 --> 05:43:02,880
I'm non-binary. I'm a proud member of the trans community on Long Island.

3341
05:43:03,000 --> 05:43:03,980
As well as the queer community.

3342
05:43:03,980 --> 05:43:08,680
I want to take this time to remind you all that trans people are not a protected class in

3343
05:43:08,680 --> 05:43:09,320
this county.

3344
05:43:09,920 --> 05:43:14,140
Despite the legislation being brought forward several times, including in 2020 by Drucker,

3345
05:43:14,700 --> 05:43:17,320
Drucker, I'm absolutely disgusted to see you co-sponsoring this bill today.

3346
05:43:17,600 --> 05:43:18,140
How disappointing.

3347
05:43:19,940 --> 05:43:24,500
Trans people are not a protected class in National County, so I know that I'm not worthy

3348
05:43:24,500 --> 05:43:29,460
of protection here or respect, because all of you voted on it, so there's a record.

3349
05:43:29,460 --> 05:43:33,820
Meanwhile, the police became a protected class in 2019.

3350
05:43:34,400 --> 05:43:36,060
Our mind you police work is a job.

3351
05:43:36,520 --> 05:43:39,680
I don't stop being trans, and I don't get paid for it,

3352
05:43:39,680 --> 05:43:40,640
and I don't get benefits.

3353
05:43:41,200 --> 05:43:42,360
Or you're a beautiful presumption.

3354
05:43:44,960 --> 05:43:46,740
Trans people are not a protected class,

3355
05:43:47,120 --> 05:43:49,500
and non-binary people are not recognized in policies

3356
05:43:49,500 --> 05:43:51,160
and NASA or in the NASA county police,

3357
05:43:51,240 --> 05:43:52,860
but you are going to recognize me today.

3358
05:43:53,840 --> 05:43:55,420
Passing this legislation today,

3359
05:43:55,660 --> 05:43:57,680
will not stop critique of the police.

3360
05:43:58,100 --> 05:44:00,420
Because I promise you I am personally not done,

3361
05:44:00,420 --> 05:44:04,120
And institutionally, we are not done holding you accountable.

3362
05:44:04,600 --> 05:44:06,000
And here is the truth of that.

3363
05:44:06,620 --> 05:44:14,420
We do not critique you. I didn't call out of work and come here at 10 a.m. on a Monday to testify

3364
05:44:14,420 --> 05:44:18,100
because of the vague notion that you are police.

3365
05:44:18,880 --> 05:44:23,040
We critique you because the racial disparities in policing in NASA are impossible to ignore.

3366
05:44:23,440 --> 05:44:26,660
Although you try, I can remind you that hispanics are two times more likely

3367
05:44:26,660 --> 05:44:31,360
and black people 5.3 times more likely to be arrested in NASA County than white people.

3368
05:44:31,940 --> 05:44:36,960
We hold you accountable for the latent and blatant racism in the NASA County Police Department

3369
05:44:36,960 --> 05:44:40,800
policies, as well as the rhetoric of the police themselves, including Commissioner

3370
05:44:40,800 --> 05:44:45,680
Ryder, who we all know when on record saying that black applicants are 3 times less likely

3371
05:44:45,680 --> 05:44:50,320
than white applicants to be accepted to the police force because they come from broken homes.

3372
05:44:50,780 --> 05:44:55,840
We call out your hypocrisy when you do not serve and protect the communities you claim

3373
05:44:55,840 --> 05:44:59,820
to, but instead criminalize and over-police communities of color.

3374
05:45:00,000 --> 05:45:18,400
Another vulnerable populations, and protect yourselves. We will continue to speak out because the police cannot, or should I say, will not, or will I say, do not, police themselves? Where is the independent oversight? Where is the inspector general? Where is our CCRB? We,

3375
05:45:20,670 --> 05:45:31,450
our secret to you, because policing is a job. And when someone does not do, or will not do their job, change must come. And that change will come from the need to do.

3376
05:45:31,470 --> 05:45:38,670
of the people, and the communities, not some 16 odd legislators running on PBA money and desperation

3377
05:45:38,670 --> 05:45:42,670
for election votes and pandering parablomatic policies.

3378
05:45:43,750 --> 05:45:49,830
Not the PBA, or Commissioner Reiter, or Laura Kerrin, or the police, or white people in

3379
05:45:49,830 --> 05:45:50,290
this county.

3380
05:45:50,490 --> 05:45:56,290
I mean, we, the people, stakeholders, black and brown people, Asian people, the disabled

3381
05:45:56,290 --> 05:46:01,370
community, veterans, folks of all religions and creeds, queer people, and the trans

3382
05:46:01,370 --> 05:46:06,970
community, we will not be silent, we will not be complacent, we will continue to speak and

3383
05:46:06,970 --> 05:46:10,970
protest and vote and we will have justice in policing on this island and whether you're

3384
05:46:10,970 --> 05:46:15,990
part of that or not is up to you. Whether you want to join us in this work, whenever you

3385
05:46:15,990 --> 05:46:20,630
want to join us in this work, to make long island equitable for everyone, you are welcome.

3386
05:46:21,270 --> 05:46:28,190
I hope that moment is today. We're here. We are always here and if you are not interested

3387
05:46:28,190 --> 05:46:31,090
and that work. I recommend looking for other employment,

3388
05:46:36,170 --> 05:46:38,850
because believe me this offensive repressive

3389
05:46:38,850 --> 05:46:43,650
disgusting legislation is not it. When it comes to talking about things like over employment

3390
05:46:43,650 --> 05:46:47,990
if you want to talk about discrimination, I've stopped getting jobs since I came out. We can go

3391
05:46:47,990 --> 05:46:53,430
there, but you're not ready for it. I want to talk to Josh now. Josh, I hope you'll look at me

3392
05:46:53,430 --> 05:47:00,590
with the same age. Hi, I also live with my parents. They're really conservative. It was really

3393
05:47:00,590 --> 05:47:04,890
cards come out to them because they're both pretty Republican conservative, none of them really

3394
05:47:04,890 --> 05:47:09,250
believe in trans people like most of you. Really difficult. So we have a lot of problematic

3395
05:47:09,250 --> 05:47:13,390
conversations at home, hard conversations. I know exactly what it's like to sit here and

3396
05:47:13,390 --> 05:47:16,770
looking to someone's eyes and know that they are not going to do the right thing, despite

3397
05:47:16,770 --> 05:47:22,730
everyone pleading sometimes for them to do it. I sat down with my mom to talk about the

3398
05:47:22,730 --> 05:47:27,730
legislation because I was so upset as a trans person. I was so offended and you know what she

3399
05:47:27,730 --> 05:47:30,270
said to me, wow, that sounds illegal.

3400
05:47:31,510 --> 05:47:33,550
And if she can see it, so can you.

3401
05:47:33,790 --> 05:47:35,690
And if you continue to ignore it,

3402
05:47:36,250 --> 05:47:37,570
I don't know how you sleep at night.

3403
05:47:39,010 --> 05:47:39,830
Thank you for your time.

3404
05:47:49,380 --> 05:47:50,280
Got any stones?

3405
05:48:04,510 --> 05:48:05,250
You have to know.

3406
05:48:06,510 --> 05:48:07,710
My name is Dennis Jones.

3407
05:48:08,570 --> 05:48:12,390
I've lived in Nassau County for over 20 years.

3408
05:48:12,870 --> 05:48:16,230
I am a form up police officer from the NYPD.

3409
05:48:16,230 --> 05:48:26,150
And I joined the NYPD in 1984, remarkably that I served there for 25 years, but

3410
05:48:26,150 --> 05:48:30,530
included in many different areas of concentration.

3411
05:48:32,430 --> 05:48:40,110
It has been my experience in a long forcement that professionalism plays a great part in

3412
05:48:40,110 --> 05:48:42,730
the performance of your duty as a police officer.

3413
05:48:44,050 --> 05:48:49,430
NASA County police officers are one of the highest paid in the country.

3414
05:48:50,150 --> 05:48:58,410
However, the NASA police officer doesn't answer the amount of 9-1-1 calls or report to the amount

3415
05:48:58,410 --> 05:49:07,650
of parades or demonstrations or even riots in a career that many NYPD officers do each year.

3416
05:49:07,650 --> 05:49:17,730
I spent five years in the Internal Affair Bureau investigating allegations of corruption.

3417
05:49:18,510 --> 05:49:21,970
I ended believing that it was such an unnecessary job.

3418
05:49:23,970 --> 05:49:28,550
How bad things could be in such a great police department?

3419
05:49:31,080 --> 05:49:35,000
I immediately found out that to be otherwise.

3420
05:49:36,280 --> 05:49:41,460
There are bad officers in law enforcement, there are bad doctors, there are bad lawyers,

3421
05:49:44,240 --> 05:49:44,280
there

3422
05:49:44,280 --> 05:49:51,580
are situations that take place months and years to investigate, to expose the truth

3423
05:49:52,200 --> 05:49:53,620
and the cover up.

3424
05:49:55,810 --> 05:50:02,790
All of you, you see the many cases brought before the innocent project, brought before by the

3425
05:50:02,790 --> 05:50:08,490
innocent project and how many years that have been taken away from truly innocent people

3426
05:50:08,490 --> 05:50:13,590
as they write in jails all across the country.

3427
05:50:14,430 --> 05:50:16,810
Those innocent people were arrested and convicted

3428
05:50:16,810 --> 05:50:23,270
because of the lies told by unprofessional and corrupt police officers.

3429
05:50:25,750 --> 05:50:29,490
And we've seen that many and many times here in Long Island.

3430
05:50:31,660 --> 05:50:34,640
NASA County is exposed in a very dangerous area

3431
05:50:34,640 --> 05:50:38,760
that would surely lead to some of the most despicable acts

3432
05:50:38,760 --> 05:50:43,080
and destroy lives, you cannot apologize for later.

3433
05:50:45,260 --> 05:50:50,180
Change your national county's human rights law to make it an unlawful

3434
05:50:50,180 --> 05:50:56,620
discriminatory practice to arrest, menace, assault, or injure, an individual

3435
05:50:56,620 --> 05:51:01,260
due to such individual status as a first responder,

3436
05:51:03,480 --> 05:51:07,020
is slipping into a slippery slope of

3437
05:51:07,020 --> 05:51:08,860
of retaliatory practice.

3438
05:51:11,880 --> 05:51:13,960
You should be here fighting for the legislation

3439
05:51:13,960 --> 05:51:18,680
to protect all citizens, not to put citizens in harm's way.

3440
05:51:21,440 --> 05:51:24,780
For we all know and believe that the rights of national residents

3441
05:51:25,440 --> 05:51:27,840
who want to exercise their freedom of speech

3442
05:51:28,300 --> 05:51:32,820
and the right to peacefully assemble would be a jeopardy.

3443
05:51:34,360 --> 05:51:37,320
Again, we should be looking to reimagine policing

3444
05:51:37,920 --> 05:51:39,980
as a new state governor had demanded.

3445
05:51:40,900 --> 05:51:42,840
Look at the rest of the country,

3446
05:51:43,260 --> 05:51:46,100
reimagining policing is taking place all over,

3447
05:51:47,160 --> 05:51:48,380
even in the tough areas.

3448
05:51:49,800 --> 05:51:53,780
The murder of George Floyd and the Black Lives Matter movement

3449
05:51:53,780 --> 05:51:57,420
has not sparked this insensitive action elsewhere.

3450
05:51:59,600 --> 05:52:01,720
They are building, not running scared.

3451
05:52:02,780 --> 05:52:06,360
Elsewhere we see collaboration, not separation.

3452
05:52:07,890 --> 05:52:16,650
You know, the legislation, as was said before, talks about recent widespread patterns, the

3453
05:52:16,650 --> 05:52:22,510
physical attacks, and intimidation, directed at police, and we know we find that nowhere

3454
05:52:22,510 --> 05:52:23,290
here in NASA.

3455
05:52:24,570 --> 05:52:26,870
And over several hundred injuries sustained,

3456
05:52:29,020 --> 05:52:30,760
we haven't seen any of that here in NASA.

3457
05:52:30,760 --> 05:52:39,540
So I ask you simply, just to vote no, because this does more harm than supposed intended

3458
05:52:39,540 --> 05:52:40,080
good.

3459
05:52:40,540 --> 05:52:41,100
Thank you.

3460
05:52:49,220 --> 05:52:49,840
Douglas Mayor?

3461
05:52:52,720 --> 05:52:53,340
Douglas still here?

3462
05:52:57,800 --> 05:52:59,600
Reverend Tristan Sally.

3463
05:53:06,600 --> 05:53:07,400
Steve Abray.

3464
05:53:13,640 --> 05:53:14,440
Good evening.

3465
05:53:14,940 --> 05:53:15,680
How's it going, Josh?

3466
05:53:15,860 --> 05:53:21,180
Last time I saw you, it was probably 2019, kind of hemp-stead marijuana task force hearing,

3467
05:53:21,840 --> 05:53:25,480
where I was pulled off the podium for bringing up donations you took from Trump-connected

3468
05:53:25,480 --> 05:53:26,360
consulting firms.

3469
05:53:27,300 --> 05:53:35,260
That was fun. So here we are again two years later. Thanks, man. Like, you know, you made a lot easier for people to believe me that you're a scumbag.

3470
05:53:35,980 --> 05:53:43,360
Like, for the past three years, a lot of people in this room I've been talking to, I've been learning, you know, this guy's wolf and sheep's clothing, he's a...

3471
05:53:44,040 --> 05:53:50,780
Listen, listen, sir. So, you're gonna, you can speak all you want, but you're not gonna use profanity like that, all right?

3472
05:53:51,860 --> 05:53:57,520
We have, we have, we have certain levels of civility here, so if you're going to use that,

3473
05:53:57,660 --> 05:54:02,540
you're not going to speak, but speak on the bill, go ahead, go press the button again.

3474
05:54:04,420 --> 05:54:09,880
Red button again. All right, so I got an extra 40 seconds on my timer now, so I'm just going

3475
05:54:09,880 --> 05:54:14,260
to ignore when you tell me to stop talking. Anyway, well, no one believed me for years. They didn't

3476
05:54:14,260 --> 05:54:17,880
believe me. Oh, we can trust him. He's a good guy. He's just doing the best he can. Oh, now look

3477
05:54:17,880 --> 05:54:18,800
Look at you did, bro.

3478
05:54:19,580 --> 05:54:21,400
Now, like literally everyone that wouldn't listen to me.

3479
05:54:21,500 --> 05:54:23,300
Now they're like, oh, they'll sound like me now.

3480
05:54:23,440 --> 05:54:23,860
It's crazy.

3481
05:54:24,300 --> 05:54:26,360
We got to get this Josh left and they're not out of there.

3482
05:54:26,400 --> 05:54:26,800
He's horrible.

3483
05:54:26,980 --> 05:54:27,400
He's fashionable.

3484
05:54:27,640 --> 05:54:28,200
He's sport's a police.

3485
05:54:28,940 --> 05:54:29,700
It's awesome, man.

3486
05:54:29,820 --> 05:54:31,080
It really, really is.

3487
05:54:31,200 --> 05:54:33,360
I mean, even your friend, Nakeel, man.

3488
05:54:33,380 --> 05:54:35,620
Like, I tried reaching out to him two years ago to tell him about you.

3489
05:54:35,720 --> 05:54:36,720
And he vouched for you, man.

3490
05:54:36,840 --> 05:54:39,320
He vouched for you so much that we don't talk anymore.

3491
05:54:40,060 --> 05:54:41,280
I haven't spoken to him in two years.

3492
05:54:41,580 --> 05:54:42,860
And now you're not your turn, he's phone calls.

3493
05:54:44,720 --> 05:54:45,540
That's wild, bro.

3494
05:54:46,140 --> 05:54:50,580
I mean, it's as crazy. I mean, I got post on Facebook from last year, like, God of

3495
05:54:50,580 --> 05:54:54,960
Love East Hack Long Island Democrats like Lafazan, Keren, Balloon, Garen, Drucker, who

3496
05:54:54,960 --> 05:54:58,260
proudly stood with racist cops or Republicans against cannabis legalization all

3497
05:54:58,260 --> 05:55:02,600
last year. Despite being presented time and time again, now they want to pretend like

3498
05:55:02,600 --> 05:55:07,080
they're black-wise matter, like they support racial justice. I mean, and people thought

3499
05:55:07,080 --> 05:55:11,440
I was crazy. You know what I mean? They're doing the best. And now here we are. All you

3500
05:55:11,440 --> 05:55:15,060
could do is try to rename the board of elections after Shirley Chisholm, like what? And

3501
05:55:15,060 --> 05:55:17,180
And that even happened, that didn't happen.

3502
05:55:17,280 --> 05:55:19,280
It's still the board of elections, okay, great, bro.

3503
05:55:20,040 --> 05:55:22,380
I mean, this is just, it's great.

3504
05:55:22,500 --> 05:55:23,800
I mean, really though, like you really,

3505
05:55:23,960 --> 05:55:24,960
like, people thought I was crazy.

3506
05:55:25,180 --> 05:55:26,080
They really thought that was just like,

3507
05:55:26,720 --> 05:55:28,180
I had a chip on my shoulder or something.

3508
05:55:28,520 --> 05:55:29,980
I was jealous of you, like, okay.

3509
05:55:30,820 --> 05:55:32,680
Well, now that's clearly not the case, man.

3510
05:55:33,320 --> 05:55:34,780
Like, I mean, you did this two years ago

3511
05:55:34,780 --> 05:55:36,460
with the Water Balloon Fiasco.

3512
05:55:37,100 --> 05:55:38,980
First and foremost, we cannot keep our community safe.

3513
05:55:39,100 --> 05:55:40,260
We don't keep our officers safe

3514
05:55:40,260 --> 05:55:41,220
and that one under the radar.

3515
05:55:41,320 --> 05:55:42,240
A lot of people have noticed that one,

3516
05:55:42,900 --> 05:55:44,860
but here we are, two years later, thank you, Josh.

3517
05:55:46,440 --> 05:55:55,880
And, you know, this is interesting too, I mean, you people keep saying how the community supports this bill, the community supports our police, but I didn't hear anyone from the community company support this bill.

3518
05:55:56,360 --> 05:55:59,640
I mean, hardly any of your police officers came up and supported this bill.

3519
05:56:00,020 --> 05:56:03,460
All the police officers you had here all did all gone now, like there's more of us than there are of you right now.

3520
05:56:04,380 --> 05:56:09,180
How many cops came to your support this bill, like three or four, the top brass, like, and that's it.

3521
05:56:09,180 --> 05:56:14,700
Not in the street, no one on the beacon up this testifying say, I feel unsafe on the streets of

3522
05:56:14,700 --> 05:56:18,100
National County, which is apparently the most safest county in all America.

3523
05:56:18,920 --> 05:56:20,540
You guys got a pick one.

3524
05:56:20,840 --> 05:56:25,680
The safest county in America, or it's so dangerous, we got to make police more protected than

3525
05:56:25,680 --> 05:56:29,680
transgender people in National County, which is insane as the brother of a transgender

3526
05:56:30,280 --> 05:56:35,280
Latinx sister, who had never had any protection in this county, even when she was a child,

3527
05:56:35,280 --> 05:56:37,500
as a student in a plane-view school district,

3528
05:56:38,600 --> 05:56:44,180
and the ever-loving S. Beaton out of her called gay,

3529
05:56:45,600 --> 05:56:52,040
called girly, called Fez, called S-P-I-C,

3530
05:56:52,260 --> 05:56:56,380
like it, but no protection for her as a transgender latina.

3531
05:56:57,180 --> 05:56:58,500
But let's give all the protection in the world

3532
05:56:58,500 --> 05:56:59,680
that people would put on a uniform.

3533
05:57:00,680 --> 05:57:02,840
I don't understand, so she'd become a cop,

3534
05:57:03,100 --> 05:57:03,860
and then she'll be protected.

3535
05:57:09,240 --> 05:57:13,960
I mean, I mean, I know people who have called the cops for a assault from like from

3536
05:57:13,960 --> 05:57:14,780
roommates and stuff like that.

3537
05:57:14,840 --> 05:57:19,360
I mean, told, oh, well, the only way you can press charges is if we let the other person

3538
05:57:19,360 --> 05:57:20,560
press charges against you, too.

3539
05:57:20,560 --> 05:57:22,720
And then you're both going to spend the night in jail, and what?

3540
05:57:23,820 --> 05:57:24,900
But now we got this.

3541
05:57:25,560 --> 05:57:27,580
I can't make any sense of it.

3542
05:57:27,860 --> 05:57:29,740
And I mean, it's almost talking before about consulting firms.

3543
05:57:29,780 --> 05:57:31,420
What are the consulting firms that wrote this bill?

3544
05:57:31,420 --> 05:57:34,160
I mean, I know the consulting firms that you work with Josh.

3545
05:57:34,160 --> 05:57:36,020
So let's talk about Gotham consulting firm.

3546
05:57:36,740 --> 05:57:40,300
The one run by New York State Democrat, Jim,

3547
05:57:40,420 --> 05:57:43,660
and David Schwartz, the same David Schwartz,

3548
05:57:43,980 --> 05:57:47,160
who defended Donald Trump and Michael Cohen

3549
05:57:47,160 --> 05:57:48,740
against story Daniels.

3550
05:57:49,260 --> 05:57:52,600
The same David Schwartz who runs Gotham consulting firm

3551
05:57:52,600 --> 05:57:57,060
that claimed to fame is running the organizing

3552
05:57:57,060 --> 05:58:00,040
the first ever presidential campaign rally

3553
05:58:00,040 --> 05:58:02,020
for Donald Trump in 2015.

3554
05:58:02,900 --> 05:58:05,640
The same David Swartz, who's claimed to fame for you,

3555
05:58:06,220 --> 05:58:07,120
is introducing you to JJ,

3556
05:58:07,220 --> 05:58:09,380
who's been putting on a map for NASA county politics.

3557
05:58:10,320 --> 05:58:10,900
That's all in the record.

3558
05:58:11,020 --> 05:58:12,020
It's his own words, man.

3559
05:58:12,680 --> 05:58:14,920
I mean, you've taken $2,500 for him recently.

3560
05:58:15,100 --> 05:58:17,480
You've taken $2,000 from his firm.

3561
05:58:17,920 --> 05:58:19,300
How is he taking the PBA?

3562
05:58:19,440 --> 05:58:20,320
I was just looking at that one.

3563
05:58:20,320 --> 05:58:21,540
I could just sum up.

3564
05:58:21,540 --> 05:58:23,500
I got 40 seconds left.

3565
05:58:24,340 --> 05:58:28,880
You took $2,500 for NASA county PBA tech June 3rd, 2019.

3566
05:58:30,580 --> 05:58:33,880
How's that working out? You enjoying that $2,500? Is that helping your campaign?

3567
05:58:36,060 --> 05:58:43,540
That's cheap, man. Like that's all it costs for this. $2,500 for all this.

3568
05:58:43,680 --> 05:58:48,180
That's just really blows my mind. Let's look at Luska.

3569
05:58:48,180 --> 05:58:52,060
Mule only took from the

3570
05:58:52,060 --> 05:58:57,520
report pb eight five hundred dollars or a thousand dollars and twenty thousand dollars. Why does cheap man damn

3571
05:58:58,800 --> 05:59:03,780
Is that all we got to do is have to give you guys some money. You'll not pass these crappy bills and

3572
05:59:03,780 --> 05:59:06,460
Who took for a dollar from the Glencoe PBA

3573
05:59:07,360 --> 05:59:09,480
Looks like friends of

3574
05:59:09,480 --> 05:59:10,320
Delia

3575
05:59:10,320 --> 05:59:14,860
$400 in 2021 in June, 18th, and June 6th, 18th,

3576
05:59:14,960 --> 05:59:16,980
which is $20 from Glencoe, PBA.

3577
05:59:17,640 --> 05:59:19,360
It sounds like the same kind of timing

3578
05:59:19,360 --> 05:59:20,600
with this big coming out.

3579
05:59:20,720 --> 05:59:21,860
I want to call the next one.

3580
05:59:22,120 --> 05:59:22,600
I want to call the next one.

3581
05:59:22,720 --> 05:59:24,820
Call it, I've got to put it all in the credit card.

3582
05:59:25,040 --> 05:59:26,040
I really agree, Owens.

3583
05:59:29,320 --> 05:59:29,820
Thank you.

3584
05:59:29,940 --> 05:59:31,660
And I'm representing a Long Island Normal,

3585
05:59:31,740 --> 05:59:33,320
the National Organization for the Reform

3586
05:59:33,320 --> 05:59:34,960
of Marijuana Laws, and I'm a Foreign Steer

3587
05:59:34,960 --> 05:59:36,240
and Committee of Long Island Activist.

3588
05:59:36,380 --> 05:59:37,060
Thank you.

3589
05:59:42,910 --> 05:59:44,430
My name is Julie Gray Owens.

3590
05:59:44,470 --> 05:59:46,710
I'm the Executive Director of Gender Equality

3591
05:59:46,710 --> 05:59:52,370
New York, a statewide transgender, non-binary, and intersex advocacy organization.

3592
05:59:53,490 --> 05:59:59,390
I'm here to remind this legislative body that for years transgender advocates pleaded with

3593
05:59:59,390 --> 05:59:59,790
you.

3594
06:00:00,000 --> 06:00:23,700
Cautify civil rights protection for gender expansive long Islanders. Long story short, you fail to protect our community. Ironically, however, you are now preparing hate crimes protection for a mainly white, mainly heterosexual, mainly cisgender, well-paid police force.

3595
06:00:23,700 --> 06:00:31,520
Where was this level of concern when we came here pleading for our basic civil rights?

3596
06:00:34,680 --> 06:00:41,780
Equating protected class minority community members with well-paid individuals

3597
06:00:41,780 --> 06:00:47,560
who choose their profession is the height of hypocrisy.

3598
06:00:48,320 --> 06:00:54,480
Our police are already protected under law and crimes committed against them already

3599
06:00:54,480 --> 06:01:02,840
come with steep penalties. I want to make it clear that support for the legislation will

3600
06:01:02,840 --> 06:01:10,340
be a signal of your indifference to freedom of speech and the right to demonstrate. I want

3601
06:01:10,340 --> 06:01:14,340
to make it clear we are watching you.

3602
06:01:24,510 --> 06:01:25,430
To be a scientist.

3603
06:01:36,100 --> 06:01:38,520
To be a scientist, President CEO,

3604
06:01:38,520 --> 06:02:08,500
Urban League of Long Island, I've been here for a little five hours and I have to tell you that not only am I disappointed and a lot of my friends, I'm pre-season professionals I've been around for a couple of years and I have served with so many people on this island and it's really, really hard to understand

3605
06:02:08,520 --> 06:02:17,580
How a waste of taxpayers money today. I just don't believe what will waste it. I'm looking at these cops.

3606
06:02:17,900 --> 06:02:24,900
My father was a police officer. A father served in a military. They have been standing here all day.

3607
06:02:25,660 --> 06:02:31,560
I know they have other things to do. This is absolutely ridiculous.

3608
06:02:31,560 --> 06:02:41,140
that we are in here at this point just before a vote. Why was it this stop, Edita?

3609
06:02:42,080 --> 06:02:48,860
There's lots of things that we could be doing. And I heard so much today I had this

3610
06:02:48,860 --> 06:02:52,060
revelation. This is about money.

3611
06:02:54,560 --> 06:02:58,560
This is not about the black community being upset with the

3612
06:02:58,560 --> 06:03:01,600
Yeah, it is a level to it, but that's the camouflage.

3613
06:03:02,580 --> 06:03:05,520
At the end of this, if this goes forward,

3614
06:03:06,180 --> 06:03:12,140
they're going to be poor people that are enslaved in a new way

3615
06:03:12,140 --> 06:03:16,620
under debt because they have to defend themselves.

3616
06:03:17,820 --> 06:03:21,360
And not just poor people, you know, when we say that phrase

3617
06:03:21,360 --> 06:03:23,380
along Alan, you know, it sounds funny.

3618
06:03:23,860 --> 06:03:25,840
Well, when you say poor people along Alan,

3619
06:03:25,840 --> 06:03:38,020
I'm talking about folks making 70, 80, over $100,000, but if you start adding on that you've got this build, you have to pay this 50 grand, because you looked at a cot room.

3620
06:03:38,860 --> 06:03:48,840
I mean, that is on the herd of anywhere in this country. If this goes forward, what's next? So the teacher's union's coming.

3621
06:03:48,840 --> 06:03:54,880
Because that kid that curses at the teaching now, maybe we can put teachers in a protected

3622
06:03:54,880 --> 06:03:55,380
class.

3623
06:03:55,720 --> 06:03:56,900
What about the lawyers?

3624
06:03:58,180 --> 06:03:58,200
Right?

3625
06:03:58,400 --> 06:04:00,100
Let's put lawyers in today.

3626
06:04:00,840 --> 06:04:02,580
I say, let's vote for the ledge.

3627
06:04:03,240 --> 06:04:05,880
Let's put all of you in a protected class.

3628
06:04:06,360 --> 06:04:10,700
This can go on and on and on.

3629
06:04:11,340 --> 06:04:14,220
Meanwhile, the street lights don't work anymore.

3630
06:04:14,220 --> 06:04:23,560
to sue the water, it's not running clean because we have spent all this police overtime

3631
06:04:24,760 --> 06:04:39,200
standing in a legislative building today. Is this, is this, is this, is this, is this, is this any sense for any of you, you know, listen, my dad was a cop in Harlem in the 60s.

3632
06:04:39,200 --> 06:04:44,180
Now, just think about it, those are new millennials you might not get to contact, so I'll tell you.

3633
06:04:44,480 --> 06:04:47,260
The contacts was during the civil rights movement.

3634
06:04:47,760 --> 06:04:51,900
They hired black cops to patrol the black neighborhood.

3635
06:04:52,640 --> 06:04:58,220
They wouldn't, they didn't want to, it was very dangerous in Holland to send a white cop in Holland.

3636
06:04:58,460 --> 06:04:59,720
So they hired black cops.

3637
06:05:00,280 --> 06:05:01,880
So we saw it as a family.

3638
06:05:02,400 --> 06:05:03,340
We saw the hate.

3639
06:05:03,340 --> 06:05:10,580
I father was hated by the community, he was hated by the blue, it was it was so much of a struggle.

3640
06:05:11,620 --> 06:05:19,580
But this has got to stop. This is absolutely ridiculous. We have other problems that we need to work on.

3641
06:05:20,580 --> 06:05:27,740
I mean, if this, if this bill had any merit, I'm quite sure you would have heard something else today.

3642
06:05:27,740 --> 06:05:36,900
So to put a person that's already on payroll and come up to tell you, this is a great bill, that's not a valid justification, that is a good bill.

3643
06:05:38,360 --> 06:05:39,120
Not at all.

3644
06:05:40,640 --> 06:05:44,800
Everybody else, not on payroll, came up here and told you something different.

3645
06:05:45,260 --> 06:05:46,800
Some fleeting with you.

3646
06:05:47,040 --> 06:05:49,380
I am really pleading with you.

3647
06:05:49,460 --> 06:05:51,100
I would not have said here five hours.

3648
06:05:51,740 --> 06:05:53,400
I don't want to do other things to do.

3649
06:05:53,400 --> 06:05:59,500
all these other people at any answer to you and put the cops back out on the street to do their jobs.

3650
06:05:59,940 --> 06:06:04,740
I haven't standing in the late for hours, but this is absolutely ridiculous.

3651
06:06:05,500 --> 06:06:10,480
So if you really want to figure out some way to bring something so forth forward,

3652
06:06:10,780 --> 06:06:15,520
maybe we need to talk about what this is and what the intent was.

3653
06:06:16,300 --> 06:06:19,120
I find it hard to believe that we would get to this point

3654
06:06:19,120 --> 06:06:25,260
When people have so much misunderstanding about a document, give us some time.

3655
06:06:25,720 --> 06:06:30,340
I would love to see a table and just, you know, let's do something else.

3656
06:06:31,100 --> 06:06:35,480
But if you choose not to kill it, we do need some discussion.

3657
06:06:35,860 --> 06:06:39,200
So I plead with you all to please.

3658
06:06:39,940 --> 06:06:41,120
Let's discuss this.

3659
06:06:41,960 --> 06:06:45,500
Thank you, Fred, for your leadership on this. I appreciate it.

3660
06:06:45,500 --> 06:06:46,500
Thank you.

3661
06:06:47,500 --> 06:06:48,540
Thank you.

3662
06:06:53,190 --> 06:06:53,430
Thank you.

3663
06:06:53,430 --> 06:06:54,350
Ashna Gibbons.

3664
06:07:10,460 --> 06:07:10,660
All right.

3665
06:07:11,100 --> 06:07:11,460
Hello.

3666
06:07:12,440 --> 06:07:13,340
I'm a high schooler.

3667
06:07:14,560 --> 06:07:21,440
I've waited here as long as anybody else and everybody else who's sacrificed their

3668
06:07:21,440 --> 06:07:22,720
Monday not working.

3669
06:07:23,080 --> 06:07:27,520
I want to thank you for coming out to oppose this bill.

3670
06:07:28,500 --> 06:07:35,320
First, I wanted to say that I want to note that minus the people from people

3671
06:07:35,320 --> 06:07:40,920
from police benevolent associations, every single constituent that has come out here has told you

3672
06:07:40,920 --> 06:07:46,380
how horrendous this bill is going to be, if you pass it. Every single one of your constituents

3673
06:07:46,380 --> 06:07:52,900
who pays your salary has come out here and told you, we are your boss, we've told you this is horrible,

3674
06:07:53,640 --> 06:07:57,200
and I don't understand why it hasn't a table yet. We're just waiting for you to table it.

3675
06:07:58,760 --> 06:08:00,220
That's why we're still up here speaking.

3676
06:08:04,090 --> 06:08:12,370
Let's see, I've been doing some research into New York State penal law as a result of this bill being put forth.

3677
06:08:13,430 --> 06:08:17,430
I see it as unnecessary for many reasons.

3678
06:08:18,710 --> 06:08:22,490
First of all, there is no evidence. People have been saying this all day.

3679
06:08:22,790 --> 06:08:25,110
There is no evidence that this bill is necessary.

3680
06:08:25,990 --> 06:08:29,810
That should be caused to table it right then and there.

3681
06:08:30,590 --> 06:08:32,730
yet, again, there's more evidence.

3682
06:08:33,010 --> 06:08:39,690
Police are already a protected class under sub-division K of section 21-9.2 of the county administrative

3683
06:08:39,690 --> 06:08:40,070
code.

3684
06:08:40,310 --> 06:08:48,210
They're already a protected class along with minority groups who cannot change their physical attributes

3685
06:08:48,210 --> 06:08:53,310
about themselves that make them discriminate against them for, although police can't.

3686
06:08:53,430 --> 06:08:55,130
So police already have this protection.

3687
06:08:55,750 --> 06:08:58,830
They already have weapons and they're already trained.

3688
06:08:58,830 --> 06:09:08,310
At all times when they're in uniform, when you, which is when this irrebutable presumption is applicable,

3689
06:09:08,950 --> 06:09:13,330
that a person would be discriminating, quote unquote discriminating against a police officer.

3690
06:09:14,350 --> 06:09:22,230
It's guaranteed that police officers are already going to be armed and trained to deal with a potential physical threat.

3691
06:09:22,230 --> 06:09:30,330
So I don't understand why the legislature thinks that financial compensation is further necessary

3692
06:09:30,330 --> 06:09:33,850
further than other people are given under New York State Pino law.

3693
06:09:34,530 --> 06:09:42,390
For example, under medicine, assault and harassment as well as injury which are the four things defined under the law.

3694
06:09:42,570 --> 06:09:47,210
I read a couple of times I hope you can tell I have my notes here.

3695
06:09:49,610 --> 06:09:57,210
the defendant in addition to any, you know, civil liabilities that's pointed out by other lawyers smarter than myself.

3696
06:09:59,190 --> 06:10:04,670
She'll be subject to a civil penalty of no more than $25,000 per violation per violation.

3697
06:10:05,350 --> 06:10:12,650
Now, when a violation can be a small as a quote, a noise for her, you know, harassment under this law.

3698
06:10:12,650 --> 06:10:18,330
Twenty-five thousand dollars seems like a bit much. I'm pretty annoyed right now. A lot of people have expressed their annoyance

3699
06:10:19,130 --> 06:10:29,770
But we're not getting 25 grand. You know, I don't see my money and

3700
06:10:30,570 --> 06:10:35,950
Under the New York State Pino law medicine and assaults the first degrees are felonies and

3701
06:10:35,950 --> 06:10:41,450
Currently for everyone else besides police officers who decided they wanted to become a police officer

3702
06:10:41,450 --> 06:10:45,030
Fines are not to exceed $5,000.

3703
06:10:45,670 --> 06:10:47,550
So why do police get five times the money?

3704
06:10:47,950 --> 06:10:50,230
Why are you allowing police to get five times

3705
06:10:50,230 --> 06:10:54,190
the money I'd like to know for per violation,

3706
06:10:54,390 --> 06:10:59,290
in addition to these civil liabilities under this law

3707
06:10:59,290 --> 06:11:02,570
and if it is determined to be a riot, $50,000.

3708
06:11:02,710 --> 06:11:06,790
10 times more than fines for felony are generally

3709
06:11:06,790 --> 06:11:10,610
and that includes, I checked that it includes,

3710
06:11:10,610 --> 06:11:17,250
a sense of such as medicine and a soul, so they're getting potentially 10 times the amount

3711
06:11:17,250 --> 06:11:25,590
that a regular person would receive, even though they don't even have to prove that anything

3712
06:11:25,590 --> 06:11:33,670
happens to them, because I guess, you know, PBA money, you know, just buys that, I guess

3713
06:11:33,670 --> 06:11:38,170
for them, you know, that's how much however many thousands of dollars, and let yourself

3714
06:11:38,170 --> 06:11:43,450
I also wanted to tell you, I'm a constituent of yours, I can't vote, but my parents can.

3715
06:11:43,990 --> 06:11:46,770
And in approximately a year, I will be able to vote.

3716
06:11:47,150 --> 06:11:54,550
So, you know, I look forward to not voting for any of the legislators that vote, yes, for this bill.

3717
06:11:54,970 --> 06:12:04,450
At this point, I'm sorry, excuse me. At this point, when people have been speaking for, you know, five plus hours, talking at you, all of your constituents,

3718
06:12:04,450 --> 06:12:12,130
If any of you vote, yes, I'm genuinely concerned for your mental health, how you came to this decision.

3719
06:12:13,370 --> 06:12:16,850
How this was a logical decision for you.

3720
06:12:18,270 --> 06:12:19,690
Yeah, that's it. Thank you.

3721
06:12:28,380 --> 06:12:34,450
Gregory Lewis, Gregory Lewis, Gregory Lewis.

3722
06:12:37,860 --> 06:12:40,060
Reverend Monty, Malik, Chandler.

3723
06:12:45,280 --> 06:12:46,300
Patricia Spencer.

3724
06:12:46,300 --> 06:12:47,260
Okay,

3725
06:12:54,240 --> 06:12:55,200
our Kush,

3726
06:13:05,520 --> 06:13:07,120
I don't know, what's it in?

3727
06:13:08,860 --> 06:13:10,300
Diane Clark Smith.

3728
06:13:12,710 --> 06:13:14,490
Who years at that time?

3729
06:13:15,910 --> 06:13:16,910
Who year at that time too?

3730
06:13:17,110 --> 06:13:17,670
The Reverend.

3731
06:13:20,450 --> 06:13:21,830
He had to go back to Long Beach.

3732
06:13:30,640 --> 06:13:33,880
My name is Diane Clark Smith, and my husband and I are attorneys,

3733
06:13:34,440 --> 06:13:37,300
and parents of three and district 12.

3734
06:13:38,980 --> 06:13:41,400
Thank you for serving us, Mr. Kennedy.

3735
06:13:42,800 --> 06:13:48,800
My mother-in-law served as a first responder at NUMC for 32 years.

3736
06:13:49,340 --> 06:13:56,040
My mother works at a fire department for 22 years, and yes, we even have multiple members

3737
06:13:56,040 --> 06:13:57,400
of law enforcement.

3738
06:13:58,880 --> 06:13:59,860
We have questions.

3739
06:14:00,860 --> 06:14:06,520
The county is on record as saying the protests and Trump rallies were peaceful last summer.

3740
06:14:06,520 --> 06:14:12,940
This county has ranked number one by U.S. news and world reports.

3741
06:14:14,120 --> 06:14:19,780
The justification for this bill was spelled out, I believe, in the preamble, as purportedly

3742
06:14:19,780 --> 06:14:22,460
being the January 6th insurrection.

3743
06:14:24,340 --> 06:14:32,180
This resolution would send out mobile alerts to all residents whenever an officer is injured

3744
06:14:32,180 --> 06:14:33,220
during a protest.

3745
06:14:33,960 --> 06:14:38,720
That is surely not going to trigger vigilante justice.

3746
06:14:40,840 --> 06:14:48,380
The very actions that the January 6th insurrection that the bill purports to address.

3747
06:14:50,160 --> 06:14:54,100
If a civil suit is brought by a first responder and they lose,

3748
06:14:55,040 --> 06:14:59,080
are the officers to be on the hook for the legal fees and the court costs?

3749
06:14:59,580 --> 06:14:59,980
Are the p-

3750
06:15:00,000 --> 06:15:23,060
TBA going to cover those court costs. Who's going to pay the lawyers? If not, the county, the tax payer, will be responsible. If the county attorney is tasked with defending, lawsuits alleging police misconduct, how can their office also bring on behalf of first responders,

3751
06:15:27,230 --> 06:15:31,450
lawsuits on behalf of this bill? How is that not a conflict of interest?

3752
06:15:32,470 --> 06:15:34,910
Under the rules of professional responsibility,

3753
06:15:35,330 --> 06:15:38,090
a shirtably would be, a attorneys

3754
06:15:38,090 --> 06:15:40,070
were sworn to uphold the Constitution.

3755
06:15:40,830 --> 06:15:44,390
This very legislative body was sworn

3756
06:15:44,390 --> 06:15:45,910
to uphold the Constitution.

3757
06:15:46,570 --> 06:15:49,470
These officers were sworn to uphold the Constitution.

3758
06:15:50,310 --> 06:15:54,410
This bill violates the U.S. Constitution,

3759
06:15:55,090 --> 06:15:57,810
the New York State Constitution.

3760
06:16:01,050 --> 06:16:03,170
Speaking of lawyers, will this bill be applied

3761
06:16:03,170 --> 06:16:11,590
do attorneys who bring suits against officers? If so, would that likely pound as an occurrence

3762
06:16:11,590 --> 06:16:20,110
under malpractice law? Posing a attorney's premiums to skyrocket and likely discouraging

3763
06:16:20,110 --> 06:16:26,550
attorneys from representing those who are accused. These are questions that need to be answered

3764
06:16:26,550 --> 06:16:30,830
And before any vote on this bill can take place,

3765
06:16:32,900 --> 06:16:34,840
what will happen to the small businesses

3766
06:16:35,360 --> 06:16:40,160
who are fairly recovering after COVID,

3767
06:16:42,210 --> 06:16:45,490
as to by the state to enforce COVID protocols as

3768
06:16:45,490 --> 06:16:51,570
we're possibly going into other issues and going to have to mask up again.

3769
06:16:52,590 --> 06:16:59,090
What will happen to those small businesses who simply ask a uniform officer to wear masks?

3770
06:16:59,090 --> 06:17:06,970
Based upon the irrebotable presumption that small businesses could be sued when they're just protecting

3771
06:17:06,970 --> 06:17:12,790
their customers and employees in avoiding state fines, they can be sued.

3772
06:17:13,490 --> 06:17:21,850
What about my artistic child who offends the cop as he tends to offend everyone, by virtue

3773
06:17:21,850 --> 06:17:23,250
of having behavioral issues?

3774
06:17:23,250 --> 06:17:28,210
Is that parents on the hook for their child's actions?

3775
06:17:29,170 --> 06:17:30,510
Do we lose our home?

3776
06:17:31,190 --> 06:17:33,070
Because our child is sued.

3777
06:17:34,390 --> 06:17:36,210
These policies are building a,

3778
06:17:36,350 --> 06:17:38,210
leaving us taxpayers' dry.

3779
06:17:38,970 --> 06:17:41,830
My tax bill is $14,000 a year.

3780
06:17:42,610 --> 06:17:43,430
And going up.

3781
06:17:44,750 --> 06:17:49,050
My endless tax bill is over $12,000.

3782
06:17:49,210 --> 06:17:51,390
My sister-in-law and brother-in-law's,

3783
06:17:51,390 --> 06:18:00,340
of our taxes are crazy already, and we're paying for this. We are. When an officer makes mistakes

3784
06:18:00,340 --> 06:18:07,200
they're protected by qualified immunity, afforded by no other protective class. The county pays

3785
06:18:07,200 --> 06:18:14,160
out millions of our tax payer money every year, while underfunding the programs that would keep

3786
06:18:14,160 --> 06:18:17,520
us in safe. That would keep these officers safe.

3787
06:18:20,780 --> 06:18:23,800
The decisions made by our legislature today

3788
06:18:23,800 --> 06:18:29,020
Well-drive homeowners like my family who invest in this community,

3789
06:18:31,580 --> 06:18:33,140
volunteer our time and contribute

3790
06:18:33,140 --> 06:18:40,360
to your campaigns to go looking elsewhere. And we do, we do individually as a family,

3791
06:18:40,660 --> 06:18:42,340
we contribute to your campaigns.

3792
06:18:44,080 --> 06:18:51,180
I understand. My point is we have protect and serve backwards. It is the public servants

3793
06:18:51,180 --> 06:18:57,320
job to serve the public. The first responders job, the legislature's job, not the

3794
06:18:57,320 --> 06:19:00,240
tax favorite. Payers job. We've got enough.

3795
06:19:09,460 --> 06:19:11,780
Come out, Cush, a little bit for it.

3796
06:19:14,300 --> 06:19:15,420
Richard Casowski.

3797
06:19:26,110 --> 06:19:30,010
How are you doing? Sir, my name is Richard Casowski. I'm a resident of NASA County.

3798
06:19:31,910 --> 06:19:37,570
I'm a conservative, that's my ideology. I'm a pro-police, but my role model is Frank

3799
06:19:37,570 --> 06:19:37,870
circle.

3800
06:19:38,710 --> 06:19:45,230
The patrolman that was shot in the face by his fellow officers, not protecting him doing

3801
06:19:45,230 --> 06:19:45,930
a buy-and-bust.

3802
06:19:46,530 --> 06:19:53,210
So, what I wanted to address, the issue is this, all you legislators have sworn in

3803
06:19:53,210 --> 06:19:58,630
oath of the office to uphold and protect the U.S. Constitutional State Constitution

3804
06:19:58,630 --> 06:20:01,990
of various laws of the state and the county.

3805
06:20:01,990 --> 06:20:09,910
If any rule, regulation, ordinance, policy, procedure, law comes in conflict with the Constitution,

3806
06:20:10,770 --> 06:20:15,010
you shall not enforce the law, you shall not implement that law.

3807
06:20:15,250 --> 06:20:19,110
If you do your in direct violation of your oath of office, you swore under the penalties

3808
06:20:19,110 --> 06:20:24,450
of perjury, oath of affirmation, so you are in violation if you do best this law.

3809
06:20:24,850 --> 06:20:27,490
It's clearly in conflict with the Constitution.

3810
06:20:27,490 --> 06:20:32,830
First of all, is a question of multiple constitutionality issues, for example, substantive

3811
06:20:32,830 --> 06:20:35,390
due process, procedural due process.

3812
06:20:35,770 --> 06:20:39,690
What about the 14th amendment equal protection under the law in the fifth amendment?

3813
06:20:40,210 --> 06:20:41,310
So you've got multiple issues.

3814
06:20:41,390 --> 06:20:46,290
When you get the irrebutable presumption, all the police officers to do is alleged something

3815
06:20:46,810 --> 06:20:47,290
harassment.

3816
06:20:47,370 --> 06:20:49,110
If you intend to arrest her, I'm in the way.

3817
06:20:49,550 --> 06:20:51,870
Well, okay, the statute says, we're going to legitimate purpose.

3818
06:20:52,230 --> 06:20:53,470
Well, I'm filming a police officer.

3819
06:20:53,550 --> 06:20:57,370
I want to hold him accountable because his systemic corruption in the NASA County Police

3820
06:20:57,370 --> 06:21:02,830
problem. That is not being addressed. So now, when I try to address the issue, what happens now,

3821
06:21:03,050 --> 06:21:07,750
police officer files a lawsuit says, he, I harassed him along the Manoyam. The question is

3822
06:21:07,750 --> 06:21:12,090
a constitution protected activity. Well, they're not going to address that issue because maybe

3823
06:21:12,090 --> 06:21:17,390
to jury a jury is not of my peers. Maybe he doesn't think like I do. Maybe thinks I shouldn't

3824
06:21:17,390 --> 06:21:27,350
question my government. So if I question my government, I'm quizzing an annoyance and that's a

3825
06:21:27,350 --> 06:21:33,790
Now, that's absurd, because how would I defend myself if the officer says, I harassed them,

3826
06:21:33,930 --> 06:21:39,030
now it constitutes a hate crime, there's no evidence like the bring forth, because the judge

3827
06:21:39,030 --> 06:21:44,450
canement and detainment and the jurors can, because it's a remarkable presumption. It's totally

3828
06:21:44,450 --> 06:21:50,430
outrageous for any of the legislators to consider this as treasonist to me. As far as I'm concerned,

3829
06:21:50,630 --> 06:21:55,990
treasonist, you're violating the oath of office, you know you oath, you swat the oath. So now there's

3830
06:21:55,990 --> 06:21:57,890
No reason you're unnoticed now.

3831
06:21:58,050 --> 06:22:00,830
You are noticed by me and multiple other people at spoke.

3832
06:22:01,370 --> 06:22:02,750
And also I want to mention the issue.

3833
06:22:03,030 --> 06:22:06,710
There is systemic police corruption in the NASA county police department.

3834
06:22:07,050 --> 06:22:08,710
I am saying it as a white male.

3835
06:22:08,990 --> 06:22:11,770
I see systemic corruption in the police department.

3836
06:22:12,030 --> 06:22:14,770
The police tamper with the police reports.

3837
06:22:15,150 --> 06:22:18,010
This is not to say this in the county.

3838
06:22:18,470 --> 06:22:21,570
The reason why it's safe because they falsify police reports.

3839
06:22:21,990 --> 06:22:23,770
There's multiple things that are going on.

3840
06:22:23,770 --> 06:22:24,650
I've seen it.

3841
06:22:24,890 --> 06:22:29,850
In spite of the stillment of the internal affairs, it has committed multiple violations,

3842
06:22:30,370 --> 06:22:30,850
total corrupt.

3843
06:22:31,150 --> 06:22:35,850
The district attorney fails the public corruption, the division of the district attorney

3844
06:22:35,850 --> 06:22:40,550
fails to investigate allegations of police corruption that are protecting one in their

3845
06:22:40,550 --> 06:22:40,750
own.

3846
06:22:41,110 --> 06:22:45,410
They've got a symbiotic relationship, so into woven, that they're one in the same.

3847
06:22:45,730 --> 06:22:49,970
So if the police go down, the prosecutor goes down as well, and that's the issue.

3848
06:22:50,270 --> 06:22:53,750
And the other issue is this, is that the NASA County Police Department has got

3849
06:22:53,750 --> 06:22:59,130
two separate policies, one official lawful policy, that's the one everybody knows, that's

3850
06:22:59,130 --> 06:23:03,630
the professionalism they betray to the public, the actual, but then they get an unofficial

3851
06:23:03,630 --> 06:23:08,830
unlawful policies, where quotas, arrest quotas, stop question and frisk, they may tell

3852
06:23:08,830 --> 06:23:12,830
you not, but it's all about activity, it's about performance, they don't call it, they

3853
06:23:12,830 --> 06:23:16,650
disguise it, they don't call it numerical quotas, they call it, they call it activity,

3854
06:23:17,550 --> 06:23:21,610
performance goals, but whatever I'm saying is that there's systemic corruption in the

3855
06:23:21,610 --> 06:23:27,190
County Police Department, when multiple people try to get reformed here, pertaining to the

3856
06:23:27,190 --> 06:23:32,230
Inspector General or an outside agency to investigate police corruption, you guys didn't

3857
06:23:32,230 --> 06:23:33,130
want to take it up.

3858
06:23:33,330 --> 06:23:37,530
Now, the PBA is very powerful, is superior officers and multiple of the entities, a very

3859
06:23:37,530 --> 06:23:38,170
powerful.

3860
06:23:38,170 --> 06:23:42,530
I'm not anti-police, I'm anti-corruption, I am a constitutionalist to the extreme.

3861
06:23:43,210 --> 06:23:45,850
You guys talk about the rule of law here, right?

3862
06:23:46,110 --> 06:23:50,690
You say about police and protecting the police and the rule law, my podcast is called

3863
06:23:50,690 --> 06:23:57,970
of law news. I am specifically about the rule of law. My podcast talks about why internal affairs

3864
06:23:57,970 --> 06:24:04,150
fail if I investigated agencies, fail or refused adequately investigate allegations of police corruption

3865
06:24:04,150 --> 06:24:09,310
in misconduct in police departments with the blue wall of silence. That's a qualifier. The

3866
06:24:09,310 --> 06:24:13,950
NASA County Police Department has a blue wall of silence. The reason why he's they got two separate

3867
06:24:13,950 --> 06:24:18,790
policies and the reason when there's two separate policies, there's a need for secrecy,

3868
06:24:18,790 --> 06:24:21,990
The blue wall is established and everything else follows through.

3869
06:24:22,270 --> 06:24:26,950
They have to have secrecy, and if anyone tries to penetrate their secrecy, they will be persecuted.

3870
06:24:27,470 --> 06:24:30,130
So I'm against the bill and I hope you'll rule accordingly.

3871
06:24:39,660 --> 06:24:40,780
Sonia Aurora.

3872
06:24:45,490 --> 06:24:48,130
Either Feld or Feldner.

3873
06:24:55,820 --> 06:24:56,120
Hello.

3874
06:24:57,200 --> 06:24:58,140
Like a lanty.

3875
06:25:05,650 --> 06:25:06,290
It's like a smell.

3876
06:25:06,830 --> 06:25:07,250
All right.

3877
06:25:08,150 --> 06:25:12,370
I'm probably not going to raise my voice or hit the table.

3878
06:25:12,510 --> 06:25:14,390
Please do not mistake that for me.

3879
06:25:14,390 --> 06:25:19,550
not taking this very seriously or as an dispersion to the validity of others having done the same.

3880
06:25:20,010 --> 06:25:25,010
Now, I want to remind everyone that this is not a referendum on the police as a whole,

3881
06:25:25,410 --> 06:25:28,610
although we have had a lot of important statements to that effect.

3882
06:25:29,150 --> 06:25:32,470
This is about a very specific law.

3883
06:25:33,770 --> 06:25:41,430
And the task before you today, there's some stuff that I don't know, but basically it's either, you have to vote no, you have to vote yes.

3884
06:25:41,430 --> 06:25:48,130
If you want to vote no do it today, because there's so many reasons why you should vote no today.

3885
06:25:48,690 --> 06:25:54,590
We've heard them all. I really won't repeat them, but basically, unpopularity is not persecution,

3886
06:25:54,930 --> 06:25:59,350
and a protected class is designed to provide redress to victims of persecution.

3887
06:26:00,650 --> 06:26:06,910
Now, if you want to vote yes, and I suspect from looking at some of your faces that you do, you can't vote yes today.

3888
06:26:06,910 --> 06:26:14,790
We've heard so many reasons why from sources as diverse as the ADA of a county, affected

3889
06:26:14,790 --> 06:26:20,930
police, affected community members, the NAACP, many attorneys of various different stripes

3890
06:26:20,930 --> 06:26:27,710
and practice, teenagers, boomers, people who are of the BIPOC community, why allies of

3891
06:26:27,710 --> 06:26:32,830
the BIPOC community, I would like to say my name is L, I use they then pronouns, I'm a member

3892
06:26:32,830 --> 06:26:34,830
of the non-binary and trans communities.

3893
06:26:35,870 --> 06:26:41,210
So all I can say is that we've heard so many procedural and

3894
06:26:41,210 --> 06:26:46,250
draft-related reasons why this bill is not being passed.

3895
06:26:46,550 --> 06:26:51,290
Now I want to speak to why I believe Legislator Lafazan is not looking at people.

3896
06:26:51,290 --> 06:26:52,650
He's not looking at his phone.

3897
06:26:52,890 --> 06:26:58,270
He's doing a speech into bait flow because he chose to hear all of our

3898
06:26:58,270 --> 06:27:00,970
objections so that he can refute them.

3899
06:27:00,970 --> 06:27:10,310
we know that this is the case. So rather than allowing this kind of bad faith debate to take place,

3900
06:27:10,930 --> 06:27:17,070
simply give it more time to take place in good faith. That's what you must do if you want to vote

3901
06:27:17,070 --> 06:27:29,290
yes, you can't do it today. And I think I've made my point around that. The last thing that I really

3902
06:27:29,290 --> 06:27:38,490
to leave on a more maybe philosophical or spiritual note, it doesn't feel nice to be told that

3903
06:27:38,490 --> 06:27:45,090
you should be ashamed of yourself. I know this, I know shame as a queer person on Long Island,

3904
06:27:45,170 --> 06:27:49,590
I know shame. It does not feel nice to be told that you should be ashamed of yourself. And a

3905
06:27:49,590 --> 06:27:54,870
lot of the time when you don't feel nice, you feel a desire, I feel a desire personally,

3906
06:27:54,870 --> 06:28:01,290
to take some kind of punitive action against those who might shame me to say,

3907
06:28:01,990 --> 06:28:08,850
hey, you want to shame me? Guess what? Yes on this bill. And I just want to really emphasize,

3908
06:28:09,050 --> 06:28:16,990
I did hit the table, look at that. I really want to emphasize that you as an individual

3909
06:28:16,990 --> 06:28:28,830
are not a bad person. Even if you are engaging in behavior, that is shame worthy for affected

3910
06:28:28,830 --> 06:28:35,750
members of a community. You're not a bad person, and there's never a wrong time or a too

3911
06:28:35,750 --> 06:28:46,130
late to hear criticism and say, you're right. I also would like to say on that same spiritual

3912
06:28:46,130 --> 06:28:50,910
note that nobody thinks that choosing to become a cop is choosing an easy profession.

3913
06:28:51,490 --> 06:28:53,710
I would not choose it for that very reason.

3914
06:28:54,550 --> 06:29:00,250
I don't think that anyone would ever say that being a police officer is easy.

3915
06:29:01,430 --> 06:29:08,330
What we are saying is that being a police officer is already protected because that's like the

3916
06:29:08,330 --> 06:29:08,930
whole point.

3917
06:29:09,310 --> 06:29:12,310
They're given extra rights so that they can protect us.

3918
06:29:12,310 --> 06:29:18,070
So there's no reason why they need to be protected above and beyond in this way. Thank you for your time

3919
06:29:25,200 --> 06:29:26,680
Release Sachiano

3920
06:29:26,680 --> 06:29:27,640
Kevin

3921
06:29:31,550 --> 06:29:32,190
McKenna.

3922
06:29:36,800 --> 06:29:39,200
All right. I'll take a motion to close the hearing

3923
06:29:41,160 --> 06:29:41,680
That's

3924
06:29:45,610 --> 06:29:46,270
I don't understand.

3925
06:29:50,890 --> 06:29:51,410
Vaccinated

3926
06:29:52,050 --> 06:29:59,970
My name is Kevin McKenna. I am a psiasi resident and I am the founder of town of Oyster Bay, New

3927
06:30:00,000 --> 06:30:10,060
News and now town of Hemstead News on Facebook. Social media has changed all your worlds.

3928
06:30:12,080 --> 06:30:19,920
There will be a major disruption this November in the election. And I am talking about the bill.

3929
06:30:22,040 --> 06:30:27,020
The world, the world, this afternoon, on my way back here.

3930
06:30:27,020 --> 06:30:32,400
here earlier. Josh, you finally made it to the big time.

3931
06:30:34,710 --> 06:30:36,970
You still have the Fox News

3932
06:30:37,670 --> 06:30:45,670
sit down on your Facebook page from four years ago as your top post to feed your ego.

3933
06:30:46,530 --> 06:30:55,450
You are my legislator. I thank you very much for bringing national attention

3934
06:30:55,450 --> 06:30:59,290
To NASA County, you made CNN this afternoon.

3935
06:31:01,410 --> 06:31:05,570
I want to know what legislative dropper has been promised.

3936
06:31:07,470 --> 06:31:10,190
To sit next to you.

3937
06:31:12,160 --> 06:31:16,240
I want to know what he has been promised to sit next to you.

3938
06:31:17,540 --> 06:31:21,760
And, you know, earlier when the discussion was going around about the masks.

3939
06:31:23,180 --> 06:31:24,840
I looked up there and I said,

3940
06:31:24,840 --> 06:31:33,500
You could look at the individual and you could decide which party they're in as to whether or not they have a mask on.

3941
06:31:34,980 --> 06:31:40,060
How sad is that that masks have been become so political?

3942
06:31:41,300 --> 06:31:45,800
Getting back to Mr. Lafazan, you are an outright fraud.

3943
06:31:47,720 --> 06:31:54,480
That's not a curse word, and if I were you between now and November,

3944
06:31:54,480 --> 06:32:04,460
I would change this law to make the legislators a protected class because you're going to need it.

3945
06:32:08,400 --> 06:32:16,920
Now, this comes down to money. This is all about money. Not as the lady earlier said about money.

3946
06:32:17,500 --> 06:32:22,420
This is about political donations from the PBA.

3947
06:32:23,320 --> 06:32:29,160
Now, my father was a New York City police officer, my cousin was a Suffolk County Lieutenant.

3948
06:32:30,480 --> 06:32:32,980
My nephew right now is on the NYPD.

3949
06:32:34,220 --> 06:32:39,580
I actually went to Farmingdale University back in 1975 for a few weeks, I thought I was

3950
06:32:39,580 --> 06:32:43,980
going to become a police officer, and I'm glad that I didn't.

3951
06:32:44,220 --> 06:32:47,420
I have the utmost respect for the police officers.

3952
06:32:48,440 --> 06:32:56,980
What? And I would love to know how many of these police officers here is about 40 of them in here right now.

3953
06:32:57,360 --> 06:33:01,340
Now there was about a hundred earlier. What are you expecting here?

3954
06:33:01,540 --> 06:33:10,700
NASA County is in need of financial resources. What are they doing standing around here?

3955
06:33:10,700 --> 06:33:16,340
Well, what's going to happen here? Is that a show of force? What's this all about?

3956
06:33:18,100 --> 06:33:18,960
What's it all about?

3957
06:33:21,480 --> 06:33:27,180
Why the police presence? Why did you? Why did you delay this meeting, Mr. Nikolele?

3958
06:33:28,700 --> 06:33:39,680
In order to continually give awards, maybe justifiably so. But on a day like this, when you have

3959
06:33:39,680 --> 06:33:46,840
How many residents here that took off from their days of work to come here to purposely, you pull day,

3960
06:33:47,260 --> 06:33:54,320
I'm not going to mention any names, but you pull day, let's hope they leave political stunt.

3961
06:33:56,520 --> 06:34:04,560
Now, as I said, as I said, if anybody wants to give me that time, I have a lot more, but probably don't want to.

3962
06:34:06,340 --> 06:34:10,140
Mr. Nicolello, I have town of ways to be news on Facebook.

3963
06:34:10,640 --> 06:34:13,620
I am fed a lot of information about you.

3964
06:34:14,200 --> 06:34:19,760
You are the one who is putting that inexperienced.

3965
06:34:19,900 --> 06:34:21,640
He's never held the job in his life.

3966
06:34:22,040 --> 06:34:27,960
You are the one who's putting him up to these political stunts and is a matter of fact when

3967
06:34:27,960 --> 06:34:34,920
You gave him the still-well project to run with, in Saasit, you were promised a judge ship

3968
06:34:34,920 --> 06:34:39,340
one year from now if he pulled off the still-well fields project.

3969
06:34:39,860 --> 06:34:45,320
But he didn't pull it off because we exposed the job, the job, the job, the sand is.

3970
06:34:45,640 --> 06:34:48,660
He is an outright fraud and Mr. Drucker.

3971
06:34:48,960 --> 06:34:55,220
You have destroyed your political career, even if you, even if you say no to this and

3972
06:34:55,220 --> 06:34:56,640
closing and closing.

3973
06:34:57,220 --> 06:35:00,560
This stunt is all about you guys voting, yes.

3974
06:35:00,940 --> 06:35:03,120
So that you force Laura Karen.

3975
06:35:03,800 --> 06:35:05,340
You want to test Laura Karen.

3976
06:35:05,680 --> 06:35:08,620
You want to force her to veto this bill

3977
06:35:08,620 --> 06:35:10,860
so that she destroys her election.

3978
06:35:11,160 --> 06:35:14,500
This is all about politics and you are discreet.

3979
06:35:14,680 --> 06:35:15,680
That looks like something.

3980
06:35:20,420 --> 06:35:22,180
I'd like to have the motion.

3981
06:35:23,200 --> 06:35:24,900
Motion to close the hearing.

3982
06:35:25,420 --> 06:35:26,300
Move her, move her, move her, move second.

3983
06:35:26,440 --> 06:35:28,400
If I let her walk, move her, close her in the hearing.

3984
06:35:33,040 --> 06:35:34,120
You're going to be a judge?

3985
06:36:10,040 --> 06:36:12,500
Thank you so much for joining me on this.

3986
06:36:13,000 --> 06:36:14,920
I'll definitely respond to what I was talking about.

3987
06:36:17,500 --> 06:36:18,240
Thank you.

3988
06:36:19,620 --> 06:36:20,100
Thank you.

3989
06:36:21,100 --> 06:36:21,280
Thank you.

3990
06:36:21,280 --> 06:36:21,940
Did you like that?

3991
06:36:22,100 --> 06:36:22,820
Thank you.

3992
06:36:23,820 --> 06:36:24,500
Thank you.

3993
06:36:27,960 --> 06:36:28,580
Thank you.

3994
06:36:28,740 --> 06:36:29,000
Thank you.

3995
06:36:31,100 --> 06:36:31,860
Thank you.

3996
06:36:32,060 --> 06:36:32,280
Thank you.

3997
06:36:32,400 --> 06:36:33,120
Thank you.

3998
06:36:33,820 --> 06:36:34,780
Thank you.

3999
06:36:35,860 --> 06:36:36,360
Thank you.

4000
06:36:39,080 --> 06:36:39,660
Thank you.

4001
07:08:36,660 --> 07:08:37,760
We are back into the chambers,

4002
07:08:43,040 --> 07:08:43,840
the above myself.

4003
07:10:18,000 --> 07:10:18,760
Ladies and gentlemen,

4004
07:10:20,910 --> 07:10:21,670
ladies and gentlemen,

4005
07:10:25,170 --> 07:10:25,650
we are going to

4006
07:10:25,650 --> 07:10:26,910
resume the meeting now.

4007
07:10:49,420 --> 07:10:57,880
At this, we are back in session, item five, say vote on a local law to amend the

4008
07:10:57,880 --> 07:11:03,240
National County Ministry of Code and Relations to amend the National County Human Rights Law to

4009
07:11:03,240 --> 07:11:08,960
preclude discrimination against the first responders. Let this little officer make that motion,

4010
07:11:08,960 --> 07:11:12,060
It's seconded by Deputy Presiding Officer Co-Pell, right?

4011
07:11:12,060 --> 07:11:15,960
The motion and the item is now before the legislature.

4012
07:11:18,990 --> 07:11:19,850
Any debate that the discussion?

4013
07:11:24,890 --> 07:11:25,610
If I may,

4014
07:11:27,850 --> 07:11:32,770
I'm not too sure that I didn't want to curtail the being of the discussion

4015
07:11:32,770 --> 07:11:40,090
from any of our members, but I did want to have the consultation with my caucus to move the

4016
07:11:40,090 --> 07:11:41,790
table the item for today.

4017
07:11:41,790 --> 07:11:51,410
It seems like to me that we've heard from a substantial proportion of the public on this particular issue.

4018
07:11:51,670 --> 07:12:01,730
I should say substantial proportion of the folks we heard from today are have made it very strong and persuasive argument to not proceed to go forward.

4019
07:12:02,750 --> 07:12:10,930
I will say that the National County Police Department, as such, any police department, excuse me a second.

4020
07:12:10,930 --> 07:12:15,110
That's what County Police Department, as such in any police department, has a very difficult job.

4021
07:12:16,470 --> 07:12:22,050
I think the measure that's before us today, with what we have heard today from the public,

4022
07:12:22,830 --> 07:12:24,590
I believe makes their job even harder.

4023
07:12:25,970 --> 07:12:37,210
Part of what makes their job easier to deal with is when you have the public that has the same level as trust and respect,

4024
07:12:39,110 --> 07:12:44,890
admiration for the officers, and I believe that that level of trust and respect is there,

4025
07:12:45,150 --> 07:12:55,070
but it's compounded and more difficult to get that level of trust when you have the public

4026
07:12:55,070 --> 07:12:59,610
feel in opposition to this bill that is before us today.

4027
07:13:01,070 --> 07:13:06,730
I think with hearing from so many people, they had to be almost close to 100, 100 slips,

4028
07:13:06,730 --> 07:13:09,610
or hundreds, maybe a hundred, maybe a little less than a hundred slips today.

4029
07:13:10,450 --> 07:13:15,730
I couldn't in good conscience go forward with any bill, not just this bill, but any

4030
07:13:15,730 --> 07:13:18,410
bill where we heard from so many people.

4031
07:13:19,610 --> 07:13:22,710
And it's now almost eight o'clock at night.

4032
07:13:23,250 --> 07:13:29,330
And I have to think that there were more people that could make it down here on a Monday

4033
07:13:29,330 --> 07:13:32,370
in the middle of the summer they would have came.

4034
07:13:32,370 --> 07:13:33,750
I

4035
07:13:38,130 --> 07:13:49,850
feel that at this point to go forward with any bill, I expressed my concerns obviously in my extension vote several weeks ago.

4036
07:13:49,850 --> 07:14:02,170
I plan to vote no today if the table does not happen, but in spirit of ensuring the public has more opportunity, more hearings, more transparency on this bill.

4037
07:14:02,170 --> 07:14:05,330
I truly believe we should move to table it.

4038
07:14:05,970 --> 07:14:09,750
I didn't want to move to table if there was going to be some debate or discussion,

4039
07:14:10,250 --> 07:14:15,210
because I don't want to curtail anyone's ability to be able to voice their concerns or their opinion.

4040
07:14:16,390 --> 07:14:20,310
But if there is no debate or discussion on no further comments,

4041
07:14:21,310 --> 07:14:24,450
I'd like to put forward a motion to table the item for today.

4042
07:14:24,450 --> 07:14:28,410
I don't know if the table is non-developable. We need a second.

4043
07:14:28,790 --> 07:14:30,770
Seconded by, let's say, the Reggie Witten.

4044
07:14:32,070 --> 07:14:34,570
All of them, well, no, I mean, it's not available,

4045
07:14:34,850 --> 07:14:37,930
but we could talk afterwards. But all of them,

4046
07:14:37,930 --> 07:14:39,310
all of them, if I were saying aye.

4047
07:14:40,050 --> 07:14:41,290
I was opposed, nay.

4048
07:14:41,610 --> 07:14:43,010
And I'm at the same height.

4049
07:14:43,230 --> 07:14:47,050
Okay. The vote fails by vote.

4050
07:14:48,010 --> 07:14:52,750
The first of the table fails by vote of nine to nine to eight,

4051
07:14:52,750 --> 07:14:59,890
with one attention. I just did. Nine. Nine votes in favor of tabling from all from the minority.

4052
07:15:00,430 --> 07:15:06,130
Eight votes, a guest table, oh, eight, and I gave an extra vote.

4053
07:15:08,450 --> 07:15:25,090
Eight votes from the minority in favor of table. Eight votes, nine votes from the majority, a guest table, and one abstains, which is legislative for it. Okay, so the item is still before us. Any debated discussion on the item?

4054
07:15:27,940 --> 07:15:29,620
Josh, you want to say something?

4055
07:15:30,200 --> 07:15:31,480
Let's just say this, uh, Lafacy.

4056
07:15:36,550 --> 07:15:37,390
Let me go for us, Lafacy.

4057
07:15:39,500 --> 07:15:40,700
Thank you, Presiding Officer.

4058
07:15:41,300 --> 07:15:42,620
Uh, and thank you to all who came down today.

4059
07:15:43,200 --> 07:15:45,620
Uh, we've had a very lengthy hearing, so I'll be very brief.

4060
07:15:46,060 --> 07:15:48,220
Uh, I sponsored this bill, and I support this bill.

4061
07:15:48,880 --> 07:15:50,840
My bill takes behavior, which is already criminal,

4062
07:15:51,220 --> 07:15:52,620
and has been for many years,

4063
07:15:52,840 --> 07:15:55,760
and simply adds a civil component under the human rights law,

4064
07:15:55,960 --> 07:15:59,160
of which first responders were made a protected class in 2019.

4065
07:15:59,960 --> 07:16:02,640
Since police had been authorized by the state to sue for negligence

4066
07:16:02,640 --> 07:16:06,540
an intentional harm since 1996, this should not alarm anyone.

4067
07:16:07,180 --> 07:16:10,940
Moreover, the crime of harassment and menacing have been on the books for a long time,

4068
07:16:11,120 --> 07:16:15,040
yet we have not seen them use to suppress freedom of speech like the critics of this

4069
07:16:15,040 --> 07:16:15,540
bill alleged.

4070
07:16:16,200 --> 07:16:18,120
Why do we think they will have that effect now?

4071
07:16:18,600 --> 07:16:23,000
And why shouldn't we trust the American judicial system to apply these laws in a constitutional

4072
07:16:23,000 --> 07:16:26,400
manner civilly just as they have been applied in a criminal context?

4073
07:16:27,100 --> 07:16:31,900
There is no justification for violence against first responders, and these bills will

4074
07:16:31,900 --> 07:16:36,720
for the protections in law to predict Nassau County's first responders as they protect us.

4075
07:16:36,740 --> 07:16:38,400
I urge you, yes, vote. Thank you.

4076
07:16:43,640 --> 07:16:46,560
All right, let's set a truck. Okay, we have other legislators.

4077
07:16:49,060 --> 07:16:51,620
All right, okay, I understand, let us,

4078
07:16:54,950 --> 07:16:57,430
I just note for the record that Legislative

4079
07:16:57,430 --> 07:17:02,170
Lafazan sat and listened to every comment today, and I think you should have the same

4080
07:17:02,170 --> 07:17:04,050
courtesy for him.

4081
07:17:04,250 --> 07:17:05,350
Let's say a trucker.

4082
07:17:07,650 --> 07:17:08,790
Thank you for presiding officer.

4083
07:17:10,250 --> 07:17:13,250
The past few weeks have probably been the most

4084
07:17:13,250 --> 07:17:15,630
difficult time I've experienced over the five years,

4085
07:17:15,750 --> 07:17:17,010
but my five years is a legislative,

4086
07:17:17,790 --> 07:17:20,010
well, personally, and as a democratic caucus member.

4087
07:17:20,070 --> 07:17:21,410
And I just want everyone to know,

4088
07:17:21,670 --> 07:17:23,870
the remarks that I have prepared here

4089
07:17:23,870 --> 07:17:26,350
and my decision on how I'm going to vote

4090
07:17:26,350 --> 07:17:28,030
was made before today.

4091
07:17:28,150 --> 07:17:30,330
It was made over the last few days and over the weekend.

4092
07:17:31,290 --> 07:17:33,710
I had made my decision, and I wrote out remarks,

4093
07:17:33,710 --> 07:17:37,190
and they have not changed based on comments today.

4094
07:17:38,310 --> 07:17:43,470
So, you know, when I first agreed to co-sponsor legislator Lafazane's bill almost two months ago,

4095
07:17:44,510 --> 07:17:47,630
you know, I did it, and I'll be honest, I'm going to take a mere copy here.

4096
07:17:47,770 --> 07:18:01,670
I did it at a reflexive action because I support Josh and at the time, I thought if there was any issues with the bill, it would be brought up.

4097
07:18:01,670 --> 07:18:05,510
in our caucus meetings, it would be brought up in our meetings that we have,

4098
07:18:05,950 --> 07:18:10,410
other sessions that we would have before it would ever make its way onto the calendar.

4099
07:18:11,290 --> 07:18:12,430
Apparently that didn't happen.

4100
07:18:13,410 --> 07:18:17,450
And I'm as guilty as the rest of us on the caucus, because we were asleep with the wheel when it comes to that.

4101
07:18:17,630 --> 07:18:19,570
We should have paid more attention to this bill.

4102
07:18:19,930 --> 07:18:26,310
And when it first came to light on Sunday night before two weeks ago, Monday's session,

4103
07:18:26,750 --> 07:18:30,350
when it was only appearing before the rules committee, which I'm not a member of.

4104
07:18:33,840 --> 07:18:37,440
Well, I wasn't a member of those committees, I also wasn't at the session, but the point is

4105
07:18:37,440 --> 07:18:44,920
is that the controversy and the issues that arose came up very late when it was addressed

4106
07:18:45,480 --> 07:18:51,240
with the majority that we had issues and we wanted to amend the bill because there were

4107
07:18:51,240 --> 07:18:57,020
objectionable parts to it, the majority was not receptive to those suggestions.

4108
07:18:57,020 --> 07:19:03,960
You know, so I didn't contemplate when I first agreed to co-sponsored the bill, the unintended consequences of the bill,

4109
07:19:04,400 --> 07:19:11,140
for a perspective other than as a lawyer and in reliance on illegal footing that the bill stood upon has presented to me.

4110
07:19:11,540 --> 07:19:20,780
But it has been made abundantly clear to me before today that those unintended consequences are the fear and concern by law-abiding citizens

4111
07:19:20,780 --> 07:19:28,900
that certain language in the bill will threaten their constitutional rights to peacefully march, demonstrate, and speak freely.

4112
07:19:29,920 --> 07:19:37,880
After hours and days of careful and diligent deliberation, I have come to the conclusion that the bill is fatally flawed.

4113
07:19:38,760 --> 07:19:39,780
And as a result,

4114
07:19:42,630 --> 07:19:50,510
and as a result, I am withdrawing my support for this bill, and I will be voting against it.

4115
07:19:50,510 --> 07:19:53,650
Let me

4116
07:19:56,340 --> 07:19:57,920
be clear, let me be clear, let me be clear.

4117
07:19:58,420 --> 07:20:00,480
I will always remain firmly committed

4118
07:20:00,480 --> 07:20:03,060
to protecting our first responders at every turn

4119
07:20:03,060 --> 07:20:04,800
because they're the ones that are the reason

4120
07:20:04,800 --> 07:20:07,560
why we live in the safest county in America.

4121
07:20:08,600 --> 07:20:12,180
But as a lawyer who's clientele for more than 35 years

4122
07:20:12,180 --> 07:20:14,460
are the marginalized underrepresented

4123
07:20:14,460 --> 07:20:17,400
in minority communities, I am always concerned

4124
07:20:17,400 --> 07:20:20,260
and protective of the democratic principles

4125
07:20:20,260 --> 07:20:22,540
that this county was founded upon.

4126
07:20:22,540 --> 07:20:29,120
For these reasons, I, again, I will withdraw my support for legislative

4127
07:20:29,120 --> 07:20:34,760
applicants bill, and I will vote no, with the emphatic plea, well, just I will vote no.

4128
07:20:35,140 --> 07:20:35,540
Thank you, Bruno.

4129
07:20:38,780 --> 07:20:39,820
I just said it anyway.

4130
07:20:45,510 --> 07:20:47,150
Today's been a long day.

4131
07:20:48,670 --> 07:20:58,830
I had made my decision last week what I was going to do, and it really came down to

4132
07:20:58,830 --> 07:21:03,910
the words irrebutable and the menacing and harassing.

4133
07:21:05,330 --> 07:21:14,970
I couldn't get past that, and I just believed that we have to do whatever we can to protect the police.

4134
07:21:15,590 --> 07:21:17,970
In whatever ways makes sense.

4135
07:21:18,490 --> 07:21:20,830
However, this is not the right bill.

4136
07:21:21,590 --> 07:21:23,190
I will be voting now.

4137
07:21:25,400 --> 07:21:27,180
But I want to say one more thing.

4138
07:21:27,180 --> 07:21:30,140
And I really appreciated Ells remarks,

4139
07:21:33,940 --> 07:21:37,440
I truly believe that everyone's intentions were good,

4140
07:21:37,880 --> 07:21:46,700
and that no one is evil or, and I think when we start banding words like that around, we just keep the divide going.

4141
07:21:47,260 --> 07:21:53,100
And we've got to figure out a way to come back together. We really, really do.

4142
07:21:53,100 --> 07:21:58,360
We have to talk to one another, hold on, I'm talking, please.

4143
07:22:00,060 --> 07:22:02,720
We need to figure that out.

4144
07:22:03,640 --> 07:22:08,660
I don't have the solution, but I hope to be part of the solution.

4145
07:22:09,340 --> 07:22:16,880
I would welcome any conversations where perhaps we could figure that out, because it's not

4146
07:22:16,880 --> 07:22:19,020
an us versus them situation.

4147
07:22:19,140 --> 07:22:21,560
We all live here in Nessau County.

4148
07:22:21,560 --> 07:22:36,820
We have to figure out a way to not make enemies of people who might disagree with us about one thing one way or the other, or maybe don't see things the way that we do because of our lived experience.

4149
07:22:37,520 --> 07:22:47,660
We have to figure out a way to talk to one another so that we can really live as a society

4150
07:22:49,640 --> 07:22:52,880
with respect and civility.

4151
07:22:54,620 --> 07:22:59,280
And I certainly have respect for you, Josh, you know that.

4152
07:22:59,460 --> 07:23:02,880
And I know that your intentions were always good.

4153
07:23:04,360 --> 07:23:11,200
And so I just want to I think it's important to say that I know you've really been under the under the gun today

4154
07:23:12,260 --> 07:23:12,740
But

4155
07:23:13,960 --> 07:23:16,280
All right, this is what I'm talking about

4156
07:23:16,880 --> 07:23:18,580
This is what I'm talking about

4157
07:23:21,340 --> 07:23:21,820
Okay

4158
07:23:22,700 --> 07:23:24,940
We have to figure out

4159
07:23:25,680 --> 07:23:29,120
We have to figure this out. That's that's it. Thank you

4160
07:23:34,040 --> 07:23:35,860
Let's say it the red you went, then let's say the vinyl

4161
07:23:39,680 --> 07:23:50,900
Okay, I'm in the same mindset as Deborah Mulay, and I have to say that when I have been talking to the police, there is a need for this type of legislation.

4162
07:23:51,440 --> 07:24:00,460
If otherwise we wouldn't have conflated it. There's a lot going on with our police. Do they protest when things are wrong? They don't.

4163
07:24:00,580 --> 07:24:03,220
Do they come and talk to their elected officials? They do.

4164
07:24:03,220 --> 07:24:09,320
I know a number of things that are criminal acts that have happened that have not been pursued.

4165
07:24:10,020 --> 07:24:15,600
In my opinion, what this law is doing is saying that you can protest.

4166
07:24:15,680 --> 07:24:17,140
You can have a peaceful protest.

4167
07:24:17,200 --> 07:24:21,300
This isn't really designed to address what happened in NASA County.

4168
07:24:21,320 --> 07:24:30,420
This is designed for a January 6th situation, where the police were really attacked and nothing happened.

4169
07:24:30,420 --> 07:24:38,140
And it's still not happening, and yes it's down in DC, but that is what the mindset could be now.

4170
07:24:38,480 --> 07:24:41,420
The way that I'm looking at this is this is bringing it together.

4171
07:24:42,200 --> 07:24:45,360
I want everyone in this room to feel respected by NASA County.

4172
07:24:45,660 --> 07:24:46,420
I really do.

4173
07:24:46,600 --> 07:24:47,640
I want you to feel safe.

4174
07:24:47,780 --> 07:24:49,840
I want you to be able to express your views.

4175
07:24:50,200 --> 07:24:57,660
But in a decorum of a way that you can express your views to someone yet not,

4176
07:24:57,660 --> 07:25:00,640
Overstep, which is basically what this law is saying.

4177
07:25:01,120 --> 07:25:04,400
I trust the attorney who wrote this bill.

4178
07:25:05,260 --> 07:25:06,580
I know that.

4179
07:25:06,580 --> 07:25:07,850
Mr. Kennedy, would you...

4180
07:25:08,180 --> 07:25:08,660
Mr. McKenna.

4181
07:25:09,240 --> 07:25:09,640
Mr. McKenna.

4182
07:25:10,020 --> 07:25:11,760
I trust McKenna.

4183
07:25:13,420 --> 07:25:13,440
Mr. McKenna.

4184
07:25:13,440 --> 07:25:13,880
Excuse me.

4185
07:25:14,000 --> 07:25:15,660
Don't interrupt me, because I didn't interrupt you.

4186
07:25:18,460 --> 07:25:18,840
McKenna.

4187
07:25:19,300 --> 07:25:19,600
Mr. McKenna.

4188
07:25:19,700 --> 07:25:19,960
Mr. McKenna.

4189
07:25:19,960 --> 07:25:20,540
Number one.

4190
07:25:20,960 --> 07:25:24,020
The police are already given this right.

4191
07:25:24,720 --> 07:25:26,540
It's been since 2018.

4192
07:25:26,540 --> 07:25:33,520
I don't see any cases and I would if I'm proven wrong that they're not entitled to this status

4193
07:25:33,520 --> 07:25:39,440
Then you know, I don't know why anyone hasn't done anything about this. You know, there's some civil right lawyers and you know

4194
07:25:39,440 --> 07:25:42,740
Why aren't they addressing the fact that they don't deserve this status?

4195
07:25:43,240 --> 07:25:48,900
We gave it to them. We gave it to veterans. If you want to discuss that you can discuss that as well. Maybe they're not

4196
07:25:49,660 --> 07:25:54,640
Maybe they're not entitled to it. Excuse me. Can you please stop

4197
07:25:54,640 --> 07:25:57,160
or else I'm gonna, you know, I can't finish my thought.

4198
07:25:58,040 --> 07:25:59,440
No, well, if you want to yell at them, God.

4199
07:26:01,020 --> 07:26:05,580
The bottom line is, I believe that the police officers

4200
07:26:05,580 --> 07:26:09,040
already have this status, which we voted on 19 to nothing

4201
07:26:09,040 --> 07:26:11,680
in 2018, okay?

4202
07:26:11,680 --> 07:26:13,040
It was never brought up.

4203
07:26:13,280 --> 07:26:16,380
If you want to diffuse it or review it, go right ahead.

4204
07:26:16,800 --> 07:26:18,400
But in the last three years almost,

4205
07:26:18,580 --> 07:26:20,300
it has not been the case.

4206
07:26:20,300 --> 07:26:28,700
Number two, I know that it sounds as if a simple gesture could cause a problem.

4207
07:26:29,320 --> 07:26:31,100
The real truth is there is a standard.

4208
07:26:31,520 --> 07:26:38,460
There is a threshold that you have to reach before you're going to have a decision made.

4209
07:26:39,300 --> 07:26:42,920
I think that those protections, number one, the police can already sue.

4210
07:26:43,060 --> 07:26:45,440
Ever since 1986 they have that right.

4211
07:26:45,840 --> 07:26:49,720
This law does not do that much to be completely honest with you.

4212
07:26:49,720 --> 07:26:56,960
It already has everything at this point. Why did we go through this? Maybe that's a question

4213
07:26:56,960 --> 07:27:04,900
but I am going to say something right now in my mind and I have given this so much thought and I'm probably going to get in trouble once again

4214
07:27:04,900 --> 07:27:12,200
I'm probably going to get in trouble with my party. Whatever else, but I am up here because I believe in my heart that this

4215
07:27:12,200 --> 07:27:18,240
Bill sends a message that I think a lot of people believe in that you know it will come up on 20 years on 9-11

4216
07:27:19,240 --> 07:27:22,360
I was first responders, and it's not only police,

4217
07:27:22,500 --> 07:27:24,420
it's a lot of volunteers that are having problems.

4218
07:27:24,980 --> 07:27:27,420
They go into your house, they pull people out with COVID.

4219
07:27:27,780 --> 07:27:29,540
I mean, I saw what happened during COVID.

4220
07:27:29,680 --> 07:27:31,620
I saw what these people did.

4221
07:27:32,540 --> 07:27:34,120
I did, and you know what?

4222
07:27:34,120 --> 07:27:38,580
The bottom line is, I think, that they deserve respect.

4223
07:27:39,520 --> 07:27:43,060
And although it's a, yes, police could pay, but this is all

4224
07:27:43,060 --> 07:27:43,780
first responders.

4225
07:27:44,060 --> 07:27:47,320
So there are many volunteers that are having issues.

4226
07:27:47,320 --> 07:27:54,400
So, in my opinion, I think that they deserve our protection and our respect and I'm voting us.

4227
07:27:56,510 --> 07:27:57,670
I just said it by now.

4228
07:28:05,860 --> 07:28:06,320
Thank you.

4229
07:28:06,320 --> 07:28:07,460
Thank you presiding officer.

4230
07:28:08,600 --> 07:28:09,800
Thank you presiding officer.

4231
07:28:16,010 --> 07:28:16,690
Presiding officer.

4232
07:28:17,030 --> 07:28:17,870
Thank you for the floor.

4233
07:28:19,210 --> 07:28:20,910
So, a lot was said today.

4234
07:28:22,650 --> 07:28:31,920
And a lot of issues bubbled up beyond my earlier comments on this issue during the committee session.

4235
07:28:32,880 --> 07:28:40,980
I stand opposed to this bill as I did during the session for the reasons I spoke on earlier.

4236
07:28:43,040 --> 07:28:49,840
But I think some of the more media issues are the ones that you've heard today,

4237
07:28:50,540 --> 07:28:56,220
and you've heard it through the voices of those that are agreed by this bill.

4238
07:28:56,220 --> 07:29:06,420
We've heard it from the voices of the people who are painted by this bill to the extent that we could hear the raw emotions in their voice.

4239
07:29:07,380 --> 07:29:22,740
So today I sit here very heavy-hearted as your colleague, who is a member of a class that has been historically discriminated against with unchangeable personal characteristics.

4240
07:29:22,740 --> 07:29:31,600
And I ask you, how in God's name can we bring a bill to this floor, there would allow

4241
07:29:31,600 --> 07:29:40,180
even members from that protected class to not have the ability to disprove discrimination

4242
07:29:40,740 --> 07:29:42,440
against police officers.

4243
07:29:42,980 --> 07:29:45,460
While I respect police officers and

4244
07:29:49,270 --> 07:29:55,430
I've shared that not only that I respect police officers

4245
07:29:55,430 --> 07:29:59,870
that I even aspired at one point to be a police officer and taken a call.

4246
07:30:01,400 --> 07:30:08,120
More than one, corrections national county, west justice, police department. And I passed those exams,

4247
07:30:10,440 --> 07:30:29,820
but as they say, you plan in God's lives, so my plan ended up differently. So I'm seated here today, and I'm seated here today. Just a staunch that we would look to a road what trust our community have as with police in this moment.

4248
07:30:29,820 --> 07:30:41,560
This bill would take all of the efforts that we've all looked to create, to build relationships

4249
07:30:41,560 --> 07:30:50,040
between our constituency and the police, where would the trust be at this point when

4250
07:30:50,040 --> 07:31:00,820
know that they could be sued, sued, just like, or, or I should say, be susceptible to

4251
07:31:00,820 --> 07:31:06,040
this law, just like the young woman in Utah that was talked about earlier, the young woman

4252
07:31:06,040 --> 07:31:13,960
who simply ripped of blue lines, matter, sign, and stop by, who is now facing criminal charges.

4253
07:31:14,660 --> 07:31:17,940
This bill is, I believe, is very dangerous.

4254
07:31:18,600 --> 07:31:23,660
It can have fiscal impacts to those who could hardly afford it.

4255
07:31:23,860 --> 07:31:25,900
Those who want to stand up for their rights.

4256
07:31:26,420 --> 07:31:30,780
Those who would be afforded in attorney in a criminal court,

4257
07:31:31,560 --> 07:31:33,040
but not in a civil court.

4258
07:31:33,900 --> 07:31:35,400
It will have a chilling effect.

4259
07:31:35,940 --> 07:31:38,320
Most certainly, it will have a chilling effect.

4260
07:31:39,580 --> 07:31:45,700
And as stated, that effect could have resulted in

4261
07:31:48,360 --> 07:31:51,820
The murderer, Derek Shovey, going free,

4262
07:31:52,580 --> 07:31:59,720
if someone had felt fearful to capture George Floyd's murder by video.

4263
07:32:03,180 --> 07:32:06,800
I don't have a lot of new material to talk about today.

4264
07:32:08,340 --> 07:32:10,400
Because the people have spoken.

4265
07:32:12,000 --> 07:32:15,160
But what I do, what I have new to add to this discussion,

4266
07:32:15,380 --> 07:32:16,940
because I don't want to belabor the point,

4267
07:32:19,650 --> 07:32:22,050
but if the real intent of this law

4268
07:32:22,050 --> 07:32:27,130
is to protect the first responders in the course of their duties.

4269
07:32:28,670 --> 07:32:29,370
Then why?

4270
07:32:29,810 --> 07:32:30,790
Tell me why.

4271
07:32:32,660 --> 07:32:36,500
This bill not only provides for the current,

4272
07:32:37,960 --> 07:32:41,180
members of our first responders' forces,

4273
07:32:41,580 --> 07:32:44,580
but also those that were in prior service.

4274
07:32:45,280 --> 07:32:46,620
In prior service,

4275
07:32:47,620 --> 07:32:53,060
because I'm of the minds that the people of certain professions

4276
07:32:53,060 --> 07:32:58,420
or any professions should not be able to have these type of protections.

4277
07:32:58,980 --> 07:32:59,600
You know why?

4278
07:32:59,960 --> 07:33:02,200
Because they can hang up their uniform.

4279
07:33:02,640 --> 07:33:04,120
I can't hang up my black skin.

4280
07:33:07,370 --> 07:33:11,670
But to sit here today and say that it is all right.

4281
07:33:12,210 --> 07:33:15,050
And then we're going to do this and give protections

4282
07:33:15,050 --> 07:33:20,810
to those who are no longer in service that are prior members of service

4283
07:33:21,350 --> 07:33:23,430
is really a personal upfront.

4284
07:33:23,430 --> 07:33:30,210
Because I can't retire my black skin, they can't retire their disabilities, and it's not right.

4285
07:33:30,870 --> 07:33:31,670
Not a profession.

4286
07:33:32,630 --> 07:33:33,870
We made them a state once.

4287
07:33:34,410 --> 07:33:35,970
This body made them a state once.

4288
07:33:36,290 --> 07:33:38,510
This is an opportunity to write a wrong.

4289
07:33:40,010 --> 07:33:41,690
It's an opportunity to write a wrong.

4290
07:33:43,690 --> 07:33:46,070
And in the words of Martin Luther King,

4291
07:33:47,450 --> 07:33:49,430
it is always...

4292
07:33:49,430 --> 07:33:51,270
What is the time he's hiding down?

4293
07:33:51,950 --> 07:33:53,550
It's always a good thing.

4294
07:33:54,730 --> 07:33:57,270
It's always a good time to do the right thing.

4295
07:33:57,510 --> 07:34:03,330
It's always a good time to do a good thing.

4296
07:34:03,570 --> 07:34:04,350
This is wrong.

4297
07:34:04,890 --> 07:34:05,170
It's wrong.

4298
07:34:05,210 --> 07:34:06,190
I tell you it's wrong.

4299
07:34:06,510 --> 07:34:07,490
We're going to turn back.

4300
07:34:08,130 --> 07:34:11,530
We're going to turn back the hands of time here in National County.

4301
07:34:12,510 --> 07:34:12,730
Why?

4302
07:34:13,950 --> 07:34:17,630
The police already granted extensive

4303
07:34:18,730 --> 07:34:25,610
enhancements of criminal justice protections. They're protected. I wouldn't

4304
07:34:25,610 --> 07:34:30,990
sit here today and vote against this bill if I didn't think they were. Because I am

4305
07:34:31,730 --> 07:34:37,610
also charged to make sure that they are protected. That's part of my role. Just as

4306
07:34:37,610 --> 07:34:43,710
it is, my role to make sure that the people that are here are protected. Those young

4307
07:34:43,710 --> 07:34:47,890
people that had the guts to stand before this might

4308
07:34:47,890 --> 07:34:49,890
and tell you from their own hearts.

4309
07:34:50,410 --> 07:34:51,790
How they feel about this bill.

4310
07:34:51,990 --> 07:34:52,350
Please,

4311
07:34:54,830 --> 07:34:55,630
we still have time.

4312
07:34:55,790 --> 07:34:58,830
We can evolve on this issue right here right now.

4313
07:34:59,490 --> 07:35:02,130
I please, I employ you

4314
07:35:05,940 --> 07:35:09,120
not today and not in our national county.

4315
07:35:14,500 --> 07:35:16,580
I just wanted to clear up at least one misconception.

4316
07:35:17,040 --> 07:35:20,800
It's said repeatedly that this bill criminalizes condom.

4317
07:35:22,300 --> 07:35:29,700
There's not a criminal bill that applies civil sex, but it does do, is take by and

4318
07:35:29,700 --> 07:35:36,280
much criminal acts as a predicate for that civil liability, harassment, menacing, assault.

4319
07:35:37,000 --> 07:35:41,500
These are criminal acts under the New York State penal law, with respect to menacing

4320
07:35:41,500 --> 07:35:47,500
and assault in a police officer, with respect to a menacing and a police officer, it's a

4321
07:35:47,500 --> 07:35:56,900
What you expect to harass, but it's a misdemeanor, again, to establish a violation of the statute, you had to prove one of these crimes.

4322
07:35:59,730 --> 07:36:05,710
You know, we sat and listened for five hours, it just shows you where the courtesy lies in this room, right?

4323
07:36:08,230 --> 07:36:18,270
The law also creates civil liability for injuring a police officer.

4324
07:36:18,810 --> 07:36:21,890
Well, New York State law already creates that right.

4325
07:36:22,210 --> 07:36:27,630
There was a right on the New York State law for intentional and negligent acts against the police officer.

4326
07:36:31,520 --> 07:36:32,000
So anyway,

4327
07:36:35,040 --> 07:36:38,580
obviously some people in this audience don't want to hear what I'm rushing.

4328
07:36:38,580 --> 07:36:40,400
And I was, but that isn't a nutshell, it.

4329
07:36:40,540 --> 07:36:45,240
We have to protect our police officers from harassing.

4330
07:36:45,460 --> 07:36:47,940
We have to protect our police officers from menacing.

4331
07:36:48,360 --> 07:36:51,880
We have to protect our police officers from assault and being injured.

4332
07:36:52,300 --> 07:36:55,060
And I'm going to vote, yes, on this local law.

4333
07:36:55,320 --> 07:36:56,020
Legislative Ford.

4334
07:37:07,240 --> 07:37:10,020
The week this in an argument is when you can't listen to somebody else

4335
07:37:10,020 --> 07:37:11,320
while trying to shout them down.

4336
07:37:12,080 --> 07:37:13,200
Now, yes, try to shout us down.

4337
07:37:13,200 --> 07:37:14,560
We listen to five hours.

4338
07:37:14,920 --> 07:37:16,580
Every word you said, five hours.

4339
07:37:18,480 --> 07:37:24,940
All right, so that I mean, it just shows you what this whole, okay, all right, thanks.

4340
07:37:25,440 --> 07:37:26,180
Let's set a forward.

4341
07:37:26,980 --> 07:37:33,400
You know, this legislation is not only for our police officers, but also for the first respond,

4342
07:37:33,540 --> 07:37:36,400
as well as firefighters and public safety officers.

4343
07:37:37,620 --> 07:37:42,480
You know, we all, I listen to all of you, you know, and all the comments,

4344
07:37:42,480 --> 07:37:48,060
And I know that your concerns and your fears, you know, basically are justified.

4345
07:37:48,840 --> 07:37:56,800
But I think sometimes when we look at this, it would be based on when we talked about like the bad police officers who always stepped their bounds.

4346
07:37:57,320 --> 07:38:05,160
But I think, especially here in Nasser County, that the vast majority of a Nasser County officers are good police officers.

4347
07:38:05,480 --> 07:38:08,560
They want to work with the community. They're not looking to make trouble.

4348
07:38:08,560 --> 07:38:12,940
they're not looking to go out and sue residents because she looked at somebody, you know,

4349
07:38:13,140 --> 07:38:19,020
crazy or something like that. I think that they're well-intentioned in their desire to serve

4350
07:38:19,020 --> 07:38:25,200
the public and regardless of the neighborhoods. I know that we're changing worlds and we're

4351
07:38:25,200 --> 07:38:31,340
all looking at different things that are happening. But I think that this legislation will maybe

4352
07:38:31,340 --> 07:38:38,540
not 100% perfect, but it is something that reaffirms what is already state law and, you know,

4353
07:38:38,540 --> 07:38:46,500
Now, but that being said, with that police reform plan, we have required that Commissioner

4354
07:38:46,500 --> 07:38:50,900
Rida report back to us on a six-month basis to the full legislature.

4355
07:38:51,660 --> 07:38:55,860
The various benchmarks, and this is going to be one of the benchmarks that we're going to

4356
07:38:55,860 --> 07:38:56,720
look at.

4357
07:38:56,820 --> 07:39:02,920
To see whether or not there are some at times, if police officers are exercising their

4358
07:39:02,920 --> 07:39:07,800
right under this legislation to sue residents and why, then we're going to look at that

4359
07:39:07,800 --> 07:39:12,960
data, and we're going to monitor it, and then if we find that it is something that has been

4360
07:39:12,960 --> 07:39:19,020
very detrimental to our residents here, then we will definitely take a look at this again.

4361
07:39:19,380 --> 07:39:20,200
Thank you.

4362
07:39:21,690 --> 07:39:22,730
Stand up, Bernbaum.

4363
07:39:26,370 --> 07:39:26,930
Let's stand up, Bernbaum.

4364
07:39:26,930 --> 07:39:27,890
Good evening, everybody.

4365
07:39:28,050 --> 07:39:31,490
I want to thank you all for taking the time to be here today.

4366
07:39:31,830 --> 07:39:34,890
I came to this hearing with open ears.

4367
07:39:35,190 --> 07:39:39,170
I wanted to listen to what our residents had to tell us.

4368
07:39:39,170 --> 07:39:49,390
And when I first read this bill, it sounded like a way to protect our police, and I have the utmost respect for people in uniform.

4369
07:39:49,850 --> 07:39:54,050
Everybody who does their job first responders and absolutely police department.

4370
07:39:55,510 --> 07:40:08,430
But I realized there were problems with this bill when our caucus got together, and there were many situations brought up that I hadn't thought about on first reading of the bill.

4371
07:40:08,430 --> 07:40:15,330
Listening to everybody here today, each with different backgrounds, different age groups,

4372
07:40:15,610 --> 07:40:22,250
different cultures, I heard all of you, and I have come to a decision.

4373
07:40:23,190 --> 07:40:26,750
And I am going to vote against this imperfect bill.

4374
07:40:34,430 --> 07:40:34,930
Thank you.

4375
07:40:35,090 --> 07:40:37,190
Thank you for presiding our professor for allowing me to speak.

4376
07:40:37,630 --> 07:40:38,210
Good evening, everyone.

4377
07:40:38,210 --> 07:40:44,890
And I'd like to thank everyone for their patience, their attention, their respect.

4378
07:40:45,570 --> 07:40:48,570
And I think if we're coming down here today, I'd like to thank all my colleagues.

4379
07:40:49,930 --> 07:40:51,930
I will be voting no against this bill.

4380
07:40:53,050 --> 07:41:02,450
I am very sad in that respected black professional such as legislative by-now has to plead

4381
07:41:03,170 --> 07:41:07,250
with such emotion and remorseness in her voice.

4382
07:41:07,250 --> 07:41:12,790
and yet it falls upon deaf ears upon her, with her own colleagues, that is shameful.

4383
07:41:14,170 --> 07:41:24,950
She is not speaking out of convenience, she is speaking out of survival, and to have her sense of urgency

4384
07:41:24,950 --> 07:41:28,770
overlooked by her colleagues is disgusting.

4385
07:41:31,410 --> 07:41:39,910
Secondly, any lawyer, law school 101, should be voting against this bill.

4386
07:41:40,730 --> 07:41:45,130
I know you have aspirations in the courts. Good luck in the course of this on your record, okay?

4387
07:41:51,470 --> 07:41:56,910
You know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you legislated religious witness in the mention that is all about January 6.

4388
07:41:57,070 --> 07:42:05,530
Well, on January 7th, his body, after January 6th, held a hearing regarding the governor's police reform.

4389
07:42:05,530 --> 07:42:11,230
Bill, and that committee was had to buy your truly legislative in East Fort.

4390
07:42:11,850 --> 07:42:16,890
And there was now one mention of what happened on January 6th that day before, by legislative

4391
07:42:16,890 --> 07:42:23,470
fort, in which blue-wise matter flags were being used to assault capital police officers.

4392
07:42:27,760 --> 07:42:30,980
Where was the cry for a respectful war enforcement since then?

4393
07:42:31,160 --> 07:42:33,300
This has nothing to do about January 6th.

4394
07:42:33,420 --> 07:42:35,280
This has everything.

4395
07:42:35,280 --> 07:42:50,720
This has everything, this has everything to do with May 25th, May 25th, and which brave people

4396
07:42:51,140 --> 07:42:57,580
stood up to corrupt killing police officers and told them they could not do that.

4397
07:42:57,860 --> 07:43:00,180
They had such bravery and conviction.

4398
07:43:00,180 --> 07:43:06,900
Now you are promoting a piece of legislation that would silence that and would make everyone think that oh wait

4399
07:43:06,900 --> 07:43:09,020
I can't speak up because I might be suit-cibly

4400
07:43:09,020 --> 07:43:14,020
No, this has a very silencing and true-and-effect upon our democracy

4401
07:43:14,940 --> 07:43:20,320
This will turn Nasser County to Putin's rushes under Putin

4402
07:43:21,000 --> 07:43:22,860
truly under Vladimir Putin

4403
07:43:23,520 --> 07:43:28,620
in Russia, there's no difference, which is what you're proposing now and what we see there.

4404
07:43:28,880 --> 07:43:35,260
It is a whole mark of our democracy that we have freedom of speech and there are good parts

4405
07:43:35,260 --> 07:43:43,640
of that and bad parts of that. And you are choosing today to silence what makes us Americans,

4406
07:43:45,080 --> 07:43:49,160
Patriots to see something wrong and to say something

4407
07:43:50,540 --> 07:43:52,460
How dare you whoa

4408
07:43:52,460 --> 07:44:00,900
We just cross the line there. I'm gonna ask you please refrain from making comments like that

4409
07:44:00,900 --> 07:44:06,680
You have to leave. I cannot stand here in good consciousness and allow anyone up here to be called a Nazi

4410
07:44:08,060 --> 07:44:12,100
Please I don't know where it came from but we're not gonna stand for that

4411
07:44:13,040 --> 07:44:14,880
Okay, so, sir, please,

4412
07:44:17,990 --> 07:44:19,330
and sorry to me for interrupting me.

4413
07:44:19,390 --> 07:44:20,310
Thank you.

4414
07:44:21,530 --> 07:44:22,250
Don't interrupt me again.

4415
07:44:25,200 --> 07:44:29,720
As I was saying, this has a chilling effect upon our hallmark

4416
07:44:29,720 --> 07:44:31,760
of what makes our democracy special.

4417
07:44:33,000 --> 07:44:35,980
For any attorney, Mr. Faradie.

4418
07:44:36,880 --> 07:44:38,460
Mr. McKevit, right? Who else?

4419
07:44:38,460 --> 07:44:39,460
Four, I'm sorry, roads.

4420
07:44:40,420 --> 07:44:41,080
All right? Who else?

4421
07:44:41,380 --> 07:44:43,480
Ms. Gorilla? You're going to be a judge soon?

4422
07:44:43,820 --> 07:44:43,920
Right?

4423
07:44:43,920 --> 07:44:50,700
safer and you have turning to do this. We'll require you to go to law school again.

4424
07:44:50,920 --> 07:44:51,600
Thank you very much.

4425
07:45:00,000 --> 07:45:08,300
Mind you, the Brennan institution and other institutions law firms are waiting to sue NASO County based on this legislation.

4426
07:45:09,120 --> 07:45:12,100
Let us let a road. Thank you.

4427
07:45:12,760 --> 07:45:22,300
I would ask individuals to simply do a Google search. NASO police officers assaulted.

4428
07:45:24,640 --> 07:45:30,820
You will see NASO County correction officer assaulted by a prisoner's suffered a broken nose.

4429
07:45:35,050 --> 07:45:42,290
July 19th, this year, Man Assault's police officer at Station House in Baltimore,

4430
07:45:45,300 --> 07:45:47,980
July 11th, 2021.

4431
07:45:48,880 --> 07:45:53,420
Nassault police officers injured during two separate weekend arrests in Belmont,

4432
07:45:57,800 --> 07:46:01,900
February 25th, 2021, homeless woman punches cop.

4433
07:46:07,280 --> 07:46:20,520
This is a, and by the way, when we were talking, by the, sir, you interrupting me is the same as you were up to interrupting legislator salages.

4434
07:46:21,260 --> 07:46:22,520
I listen to you speak,

4435
07:46:24,680 --> 07:46:24,760
right?

4436
07:46:25,360 --> 07:46:35,600
When we were talking about the protests, again, when police officers tried to stop protestors from going on to the Metabird Parkway

4437
07:46:35,600 --> 07:46:38,920
to police officers were injured.

4438
07:46:39,660 --> 07:46:42,500
One was punched in the face.

4439
07:46:43,500 --> 07:46:46,240
The second one, a broken ankle requiring surgery.

4440
07:46:47,440 --> 07:46:50,720
These are not isolated incidents.

4441
07:46:55,720 --> 07:47:00,180
Police officers, police officers,

4442
07:47:01,480 --> 07:47:04,240
you had a volunteer firefighter who was shot,

4443
07:47:04,480 --> 07:47:06,380
responding to an alarm and bell more.

4444
07:47:06,500 --> 07:47:08,580
Probably I would say eight or nine years ago.

4445
07:47:08,580 --> 07:47:15,420
These things, these things are not isolated incidents.

4446
07:47:16,440 --> 07:47:23,520
And the bottom line is whether it's a private citizen, whether it's a first responder, we

4447
07:47:23,520 --> 07:47:35,100
do not want anyone to be harassed, menace, assaulted, or injured, particularly not our police officers.

4448
07:47:35,100 --> 07:47:39,420
This is not about trying to suppress anyone's free speech.

4449
07:47:40,640 --> 07:47:47,940
This is about trying to ensure the safety of the people who are there to protect our safety.

4450
07:47:48,540 --> 07:47:50,600
That's why I'll be supporting the legislation.

4451
07:47:57,720 --> 07:47:58,600
Legislative.

4452
07:47:58,600 --> 07:47:59,300
Legislative.

4453
07:48:15,000 --> 07:48:16,880
Minority leader Abrams.

4454
07:48:27,070 --> 07:48:28,370
Minority leader Abrams.

4455
07:48:30,030 --> 07:48:31,790
Minority leader Abrams.

4456
07:49:10,330 --> 07:49:14,910
I'm listening to you and it sounds good to me if you can get me to be a judge of it.

4457
07:49:15,050 --> 07:49:16,710
Can you work it out for me?

4458
07:49:17,210 --> 07:49:18,870
I've been here a long time, my friend.

4459
07:49:24,570 --> 07:49:24,790
All right.

4460
07:49:26,250 --> 07:49:29,550
Ladies and gentlemen, no further debate of discussion.

4461
07:49:31,650 --> 07:49:35,030
All those in favour of this item signify by saying aye.

4462
07:49:35,030 --> 07:49:37,090
Hi, those are posed.

4463
07:49:39,030 --> 07:49:39,890
So, passes.

4464
07:49:41,370 --> 07:49:42,110
We'll call.

4465
07:49:42,550 --> 07:49:47,070
I think we have 12.

4466
07:49:49,200 --> 07:49:49,720
All right.

4467
07:49:49,740 --> 07:49:51,040
So, we have 12 in favor.

4468
07:49:51,380 --> 07:49:51,960
Six against.

4469
07:49:52,380 --> 07:49:53,240
So, it passes.

4470
07:49:53,300 --> 07:49:54,120
It's the passes.

4471
07:49:54,660 --> 07:49:55,040
All

4472
07:50:24,260 --> 07:50:24,340
right.

4473
07:50:24,420 --> 07:50:27,120
We're going to go right into the finance committee.

4474
07:50:27,540 --> 07:50:28,800
Members, you're all here.

4475
07:50:30,320 --> 07:50:31,500
What do you have?

4476
07:50:32,120 --> 07:50:32,500
What do you have?

4477
07:50:32,500 --> 07:50:32,880
I'm sorry.

4478
07:50:33,080 --> 07:50:34,200
We're going to do safety first.

4479
07:50:35,500 --> 07:50:36,020
All

4480
07:50:48,020 --> 07:50:48,540
right.

4481
07:50:48,540 --> 07:50:52,340
Mr. Pulitzer, would you just call the roll on finance, please?

4482
07:50:52,640 --> 07:50:53,840
Yes, thank you, Mr. Chairman.

4483
07:50:55,200 --> 07:50:57,160
The Finance Committee roll call.

4484
07:50:57,500 --> 07:50:59,220
Let's just say Joshua after that.

4485
07:50:59,360 --> 07:51:00,380
Mr. Pulitzer, I'm sorry.

4486
07:51:02,140 --> 07:51:07,240
But I think we already clarified the vote, but I believe she was trying to figure out the vote.

4487
07:51:07,620 --> 07:51:13,460
It was 12. It was 12 in the affirmative. It was six in the negative.

4488
07:51:14,380 --> 07:51:17,720
The two in the affirmative from the Democratic side were legislators.

4489
07:51:17,720 --> 07:51:24,660
because the rich in electricity is lap is in supporting the 10 vote of Republican majority.

4490
07:51:25,360 --> 07:51:25,920
Okay, that's it.

4491
07:51:26,800 --> 07:51:30,420
I'm going to put the legislature meeting at the recess.

4492
07:51:35,480 --> 07:51:37,760
All right, we're going to move on to the finance committee.

4493
07:52:00,160 --> 07:52:01,560
Mr. Pulitzer.

4494
07:52:01,600 --> 07:52:03,080
Mr. Pulitzer, go ahead, please.

4495
07:52:03,080 --> 07:52:04,700
call the roll. Thank you,

4496
07:52:06,830 --> 07:52:14,930
sir. Roll call, finance committee. Legislative Joshua Lafazan. Legislature

4497
07:52:14,930 --> 07:52:16,010
Arnold Drucker.

4498
07:52:18,090 --> 07:52:27,590
Legislative Drucker. Sir, ranking member Ellen Burmbaum. Legislative

4499
07:52:27,590 --> 07:52:33,870
Rosemary Walker. Legislative Thomas McKevitt. Vice Chairman Vincent Muscarella.

4500
07:52:36,390 --> 07:52:37,510
Chairman

4501
07:52:37,510 --> 07:52:47,950
Thank you. We have a bunch of items which I'm going to call all together. Actually, we are going to have to make a motion to untay the law of these items.

4502
07:52:49,310 --> 07:53:05,050
Those items are all authorizing compromise and settlement of various search of our tax search of our claims. Those numbers are 282 of 261, 262, 211.

4503
07:53:05,050 --> 07:53:06,630
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

4504
07:53:08,880 --> 07:53:09,780
Not to 82?

4505
07:53:22,990 --> 07:53:23,270
OK.

4506
07:53:23,510 --> 07:53:24,650
A scratch to 82.

4507
07:53:24,910 --> 07:53:33,690
So we'll start at 61 of 21, 62, 63, 73, 74, 75.

4508
07:53:33,970 --> 07:53:35,410
Mr. McKenna, hold on.

4509
07:53:35,550 --> 07:53:37,010
Mr. McKenna, this is your last warning.

4510
07:53:38,770 --> 07:53:39,370
So last warning.

4511
07:53:39,370 --> 07:53:40,890
If you keep it up, we're going to have your remote.

4512
07:53:43,250 --> 07:53:44,810
We're going to remove you from the building.

4513
07:53:44,810 --> 07:53:48,770
And I understand that somebody just told me that so.

4514
07:53:51,030 --> 07:53:51,030
75,

4515
07:53:59,880 --> 07:54:13,100
76, 77, 78, 79 of 21 motion to untable is made by his walker seconded by Mr.

4516
07:54:13,100 --> 07:54:20,360
the trucker, all those in favor of untabling those matters, please say aye, any opposed?

4517
07:54:21,420 --> 07:54:33,400
Okay. Thank you. All right. Now, on the item, the same items, do we have any debate

4518
07:54:33,400 --> 07:54:39,420
or discussion on those items? Hearing none, all those in favor of all those items,

4519
07:54:43,080 --> 07:54:43,080
please

4520
07:54:43,080 --> 07:54:51,080
not only opposed, those items all pass unanimously, a motion to adjourn finance is made by

4521
07:54:52,480 --> 07:54:57,880
Mr. Muscarella, seconded by Mr. Lafazan, all those in favor of adjourning finance.

4522
07:54:58,220 --> 07:54:59,040
Please say aye.

4523
07:55:00,040 --> 07:55:02,180
Any opposed? Where adjourn? Thank you.

4524
07:55:22,400 --> 07:55:25,600
Okay. Mike, could you please call the roll for the rules committee?

4525
07:55:25,860 --> 07:55:27,040
Yes, thank you, Mr. Chairman.

4526
07:55:28,800 --> 07:55:32,240
The roll call for the rules committee as it follows.

4527
07:55:32,240 --> 07:55:34,880
legislative seal of vino.

4528
07:55:37,740 --> 07:55:42,300
Okay, legislative dealer at the Ritchie Whitton, ranking member Kavanaugh

4529
07:55:42,300 --> 07:55:49,880
Abraham, legislative Laura Schaffer, legislative Stephen Rhodes, vice chairman Howard Copal,

4530
07:55:50,740 --> 07:55:56,280
chairman Richard Nicollello. Yes, we have a corps. Okay, thank you. We have a number of items.

4531
07:55:56,560 --> 07:56:01,120
It just moments ago went through the finance committee, so we're going to call all those together.

4532
07:56:01,120 --> 07:56:13,480
There's basically the tax-circuit sediments, include I am 61, 62, 63, 73,

4533
07:56:15,580 --> 07:56:23,080
74, 75, 76, 77, 78, 79,

4534
07:56:25,120 --> 07:56:31,080
motion by Deputy President of the Corfell second by minority leader Abraham's and he debated

4535
07:56:31,080 --> 07:56:37,500
the discussion on these items. Hearing none, all favourers, the second favourers say aye.

4536
07:56:38,460 --> 07:56:45,240
Aye, those opposed, they pass unanimously. Okay, we have two items, we'll actually recall this

4537
07:56:45,240 --> 07:56:58,460
For example, the 261-269-2021 is a resolution authorized in the county executive to execute an interminiscible agreement with the Leatic Beach Fire District in relation to procuring a chest compression device and related items.

4538
07:56:59,580 --> 07:57:08,000
That is moved by a legislator's shape for a seconded by a legislator, the Reggie Witton, and he debated the discussion on that item.

4539
07:57:08,800 --> 07:57:11,200
Hearing none, all in favor, signify by saying aye.

4540
07:57:11,200 --> 07:57:13,940
I, those opposed, carries unanimously.

4541
07:57:15,240 --> 07:57:16,500
I'm 282.

4542
07:57:16,720 --> 07:57:20,000
It's a resolution authorised in the county executive to execute an amendment to an

4543
07:57:20,000 --> 07:57:24,680
intemunisable agreement with the Nessaur County soil and water conservation district

4544
07:57:24,680 --> 07:57:29,660
in relation to providing conservation services and assistance with the septic system

4545
07:57:29,660 --> 07:57:31,460
placement program.

4546
07:57:32,900 --> 07:57:34,940
Motion by, let's see later.

4547
07:57:34,940 --> 07:57:39,280
The Richie Witton, the second of our letters to the Schaefer, and he debated the discussion

4548
07:57:39,280 --> 07:57:40,320
on this island.

4549
07:57:41,640 --> 07:57:48,040
If you're none, all of our favorite signify by saying aye, aye, those opposed carries unanimously.

4550
07:57:49,420 --> 07:57:53,480
Now, we have several contracts on the Rules Committee agenda that

4551
07:57:55,560 --> 07:57:57,200
include the following.

4552
07:57:57,940 --> 07:58:02,960
E-17, E-123, E-17, I thank you.

4553
07:58:02,960 --> 07:58:32,680
B1-23, B1-24, U-3 of 2021, these are a resolution to authorize the county executive to execute personal services agreements between the county and Leander Associates, KPMG LLP, M&G Engineering, PC, and Susan Ryan, DBA, Vera, Cousin, moved by Deputy Pesognosical Pell, seconded by Minorly Abraham's, before I call those, I'm going to ask for a motion.

4554
07:58:32,960 --> 07:58:39,480
To untable E1171-2020, the resolution of the rise in the county executive to execute

4555
07:58:39,480 --> 07:58:45,120
the personal services agreement between the county and PFN and financial advice.

4556
07:58:45,300 --> 07:58:51,740
It's moved by legislative roads, seconded by legislative derity witness, so all those contracts

4557
07:58:51,740 --> 07:58:53,740
are now before the committee.

4558
07:58:54,740 --> 07:58:59,860
First contracts, first two contracts are with the district attorney's office.

4559
07:59:00,800 --> 07:59:04,480
I want to thank you, Mr. McMannis. I know you were here all day, so I appreciate your patience.

4560
07:59:08,020 --> 07:59:18,200
Thank you, Bob McManus, District Attorney's Office. The contract before you is for a research consultant to assist with the hemp state,

4561
07:59:18,200 --> 07:59:26,040
its own protection, its own prosecution program grant, which is intended to reduce crime and

4562
07:59:26,040 --> 07:59:32,180
the village of Hempstead. The goal of the project is to implement crime prevention,

4563
07:59:33,040 --> 07:59:38,340
response and reduction practices. The role of a research consultant is required by the Department

4564
07:59:38,340 --> 07:59:44,880
of Justice in this grant and will facilitate the analysis of crime statistics and law enforcement

4565
07:59:44,880 --> 07:59:49,880
intelligence to increase the probability of a successful result.

4566
07:59:50,460 --> 07:59:52,900
Okay. Thank you. Any questions on this contract?

4567
07:59:54,480 --> 07:59:56,760
So I think you have another one which is the U contract.

4568
07:59:57,120 --> 07:59:57,300
Yes, I do.

4569
07:59:58,640 --> 07:59:59,520
The item.

4570
08:00:00,000 --> 08:00:10,220
The item before you is with the management consultant who will conduct management training course for assistant district attorneys.

4571
08:00:10,940 --> 08:00:21,200
Very often attorneys succeed as attorneys and prosecutors and are given supervisory responsibilities as a result of that.

4572
08:00:21,200 --> 08:00:28,540
very often, they do not have the experience in training to perform management activities successfully

4573
08:00:28,540 --> 08:00:33,020
and this training is intended to assist in that area.

4574
08:00:34,720 --> 08:00:35,240
Any questions?

4575
08:00:37,160 --> 08:00:37,280
All right.

4576
08:00:37,340 --> 08:00:38,120
Thank you again.

4577
08:00:41,130 --> 08:00:41,250
Thank you.

4578
08:00:41,490 --> 08:00:41,670
Thank you.

4579
08:00:42,050 --> 08:00:42,270
Thank you.

4580
08:00:42,270 --> 08:00:42,570
Thank you.

4581
08:00:48,360 --> 08:00:49,560
Thank you.

4582
08:00:49,700 --> 08:00:52,040
Good evening.

4583
08:00:57,350 --> 08:01:00,590
I'm Susan Park, the Director of Recovery at the Office of Emergency Management.

4584
08:01:00,590 --> 08:01:14,970
Item E-123-21 is a contract with KPMG to provide on-call disaster management services to the county to assist our various departments, offices and agencies in recovery planning and management.

4585
08:01:15,930 --> 08:01:24,530
The scope of services specifies the management and administration of funding streams, including but not limited to programs such as the American Rescue Fund,

4586
08:01:24,530 --> 08:01:31,350
FEMA Public Assistance and the CARES Act to help the county recover from the pandemic and other disasters.

4587
08:01:32,490 --> 08:01:40,150
Item E-123-21 is the result of a competitive RFP process by which the county received 24 proposals.

4588
08:01:40,910 --> 08:01:48,470
The RFP evaluation committee select a KPMG and two other vendors as the most responsible and cost effective consultants for the county.

4589
08:01:48,470 --> 08:01:55,890
The committee selected more than one vendor in case the county will need to respond to two or more disasters at one time.

4590
08:01:57,410 --> 08:02:04,130
Each on-call disaster management services consultant, each time an on-call disaster management services consultant,

4591
08:02:04,670 --> 08:02:09,850
is needed by the county OEM will issue a task order mission to the three contractor vendors,

4592
08:02:10,310 --> 08:02:17,250
and a task order proposal evaluation committee will be selected will select which vendor to award the task order two.

4593
08:02:17,250 --> 08:02:25,190
The contract has a maximum cost of 3.75 million and is scheduled to expire on August 31st, 2025.

4594
08:02:25,710 --> 08:02:35,370
OEM anticipates that the cost of any task order that comes up to the on-call disaster management services contracts will be covered by state and or federal recovery funding streams.

4595
08:02:35,810 --> 08:02:35,890
Thank you.

4596
08:02:35,890 --> 08:02:37,290
Thank you for that presentation.

4597
08:02:38,410 --> 08:02:39,530
Anyone have any questions?

4598
08:02:42,860 --> 08:02:49,180
I thought you had, I thought you had, did you bring up in your list of emergencies item 287-21?

4599
08:02:49,180 --> 08:02:49,280
One,

4600
08:02:51,320 --> 08:02:55,880
two, eighty. This is no. No, eight times.

4601
08:03:00,060 --> 08:03:03,680
Right, it's late. No, no.

4602
08:03:05,040 --> 08:03:06,200
Any questions?

4603
08:03:07,580 --> 08:03:08,720
Thank you. We're all set.

4604
08:03:15,040 --> 08:03:19,480
We're on to the next contract with the Department of Public Works, which is E124.

4605
08:03:26,470 --> 08:03:28,570
Thank you, also. Appreciate your faces.

4606
08:03:32,630 --> 08:03:38,470
I'm Ken Arnold Public Works, E124, the Professional Services Contract for Construction Management

4607
08:03:38,470 --> 08:03:39,090
Services.

4608
08:03:39,530 --> 08:03:45,230
For a roadie servicing phase 67, there were 16 proposals and M&J received the highest technical

4609
08:03:45,230 --> 08:03:49,550
score in the lowest cost of the highest rank firms submitted.

4610
08:03:49,990 --> 08:03:55,510
M&J is an MBE contract, an additional ed, a WBE at 10% of the value of the contract.

4611
08:03:55,510 --> 08:03:59,930
All right. Thank you. Any questions?

4612
08:04:01,330 --> 08:04:02,510
All set. Thank you.

4613
08:04:03,830 --> 08:04:07,930
Last contract is the one we are on table with OMBs with PFFM associates.

4614
08:04:10,570 --> 08:04:11,130
P171.

4615
08:04:13,860 --> 08:04:15,360
PFFM financial service.

4616
08:04:16,240 --> 08:04:18,860
Good afternoon, Andy Persick, of the management budget.

4617
08:04:20,060 --> 08:04:23,140
This item is a new contract in 305 year agreement with PFFM.

4618
08:04:23,680 --> 08:04:26,560
There are some pricing structures that change that we thought would be better

4619
08:04:26,560 --> 08:04:30,820
and I've attached just to it, went to an hourly basis from a part deal basis.

4620
08:04:31,220 --> 08:04:36,460
We've incorporated some of the legislators' comments into the contract that makes it a little

4621
08:04:36,460 --> 08:04:38,760
bit more amen to both parties.

4622
08:04:39,100 --> 08:04:40,660
Yeah, we'll have a little more chance, but we appreciate it.

4623
08:04:40,960 --> 08:04:41,440
No problem.

4624
08:04:41,580 --> 08:04:41,920
Thank you.

4625
08:04:42,680 --> 08:04:43,500
Any questions?

4626
08:04:43,720 --> 08:04:44,080
I'm PFF.

4627
08:04:46,560 --> 08:04:46,760
All right.

4628
08:04:46,760 --> 08:04:47,880
Thank you, Andy.

4629
08:04:52,220 --> 08:04:53,140
All right.

4630
08:04:53,140 --> 08:05:02,740
of contracts, E1117, U3, E123, E124, E171, any further divided discussion?

4631
08:05:03,940 --> 08:05:07,260
Public comments, all of favor signify by saying aye.

4632
08:05:07,580 --> 08:05:08,060
Aye.

4633
08:05:08,280 --> 08:05:09,060
I was opposed.

4634
08:05:09,800 --> 08:05:14,760
The carry unanimously, let's say the roads make some motion to adjourn, seconded by

4635
08:05:15,520 --> 08:05:16,160
legislator.

4636
08:05:16,620 --> 08:05:20,040
The witty-witten, all of favor of adjourning, signify by saying aye.

4637
08:05:20,940 --> 08:05:29,520
was posed. We are adjourned. We call the full legislature back from recess, with the other

4638
08:05:29,520 --> 08:05:29,980
legislators.

4639
08:05:47,840 --> 08:05:49,300
There is a, sorry,

4640
08:07:51,770 --> 08:07:56,530
the legislature out of recess. I think we have a number of

4641
08:07:56,530 --> 08:07:56,530
emergencies.

4642
08:08:00,560 --> 08:08:04,600
Let's you call the two emergencies. The two first two emergencies, both settlements.

4643
08:08:04,600 --> 08:08:15,100
Thank you, emergency resolution number 8-2021, emergency resolution number 8-2021 and emergency

4644
08:08:15,100 --> 08:08:21,140
resolution declaring an emergency for immediate action upon a resolution, resolution authorizing

4645
08:08:21,140 --> 08:08:26,140
the acting county attorney to compromise and settle the claims of plaintiffs at set

4646
08:08:26,140 --> 08:08:31,640
forth in the action entitled, Gaurari, County of NASA or

4647
08:08:31,640 --> 08:08:38,480
Dr. number 16-CV-6983, pursuant to the County Law of the

4648
08:08:38,480 --> 08:08:42,160
County Government, Law of NASA County and the NASA County

4649
08:08:42,160 --> 08:08:48,160
Administrative Code. Next, the Mergent C Resolution is number 9-2021,

4650
08:08:49,000 --> 08:08:52,980
Emergency Resolution number 9-2021, Emergency Resolution Declary

4651
08:08:52,980 --> 08:08:57,800
emergency for a immediate action upon a resolution authorizing the acting

4652
08:08:57,800 --> 08:09:01,840
county attorney to compromise and settle the claims of the Nassau County

4653
08:09:01,840 --> 08:09:07,540
against McCessen Corporation Cardinal Health Inc. And America saw Spurgon

4654
08:09:07,540 --> 08:09:12,500
Corporation collectively to lead the big three pursuant of the county law

4655
08:09:12,500 --> 08:09:16,500
at the county government law of Nassau County and the Nassau County

4656
08:09:16,500 --> 08:09:18,100
administrative code.

4657
08:09:21,020 --> 08:09:24,640
That's both of those emergency correct? That is correct. We need to

4658
08:09:24,640 --> 08:09:29,600
motion to establish the emergency. We'll let it sort of walk a second by a legislator

4659
08:09:31,100 --> 08:09:34,960
trucker. All those with favor of establishing the emergency signal by was saying hi.

4660
08:09:36,260 --> 08:09:40,860
Hi. Emergency established. I believe we have to call the items again.

4661
08:09:41,520 --> 08:09:44,820
To any three resolution, what's the fact that acting counting attorney to

4662
08:09:44,820 --> 08:09:48,400
compromise and sell the claims of plaintiffs that says fourth, in the action entitled

4663
08:09:48,400 --> 08:09:49,960
a rare reverse of the county vessel.

4664
08:09:50,940 --> 08:09:55,540
To 84, this is a resolution that provides an act in county attorney to compromise and settle

4665
08:09:55,540 --> 08:10:00,000
claims of the county of the vessel against the Kessian Corporation, Cardinal Health

4666
08:10:00,000 --> 08:10:02,580
and a Maris sauce for Bergen Corporation.

4667
08:10:04,860 --> 08:10:10,560
Motion by legislative muskarella, seconded by legislative regime.

4668
08:10:11,540 --> 08:10:14,320
So these two matters are before us.

4669
08:10:14,740 --> 08:10:20,000
We have anyone here who can speak to the 284 which is the settlement with the

4670
08:10:20,000 --> 08:10:21,740
I hope you all had many factors.

4671
08:10:29,360 --> 08:10:30,100
Good evening, legislators.

4672
08:10:30,520 --> 08:10:32,540
Chief Deputy County Attorney Jessica Mulanaris.

4673
08:10:33,000 --> 08:10:35,560
We do have special counsel here of the firm of Napoli Scolnick.

4674
08:10:36,720 --> 08:10:38,540
You're just both lucky like to bring them, like me,

4675
08:10:38,560 --> 08:10:39,240
bring them to the podium.

4676
08:10:40,900 --> 08:10:42,940
To the extent that you can describe the elements

4677
08:10:42,940 --> 08:10:45,080
without us having to go to executive session

4678
08:10:45,880 --> 08:10:48,100
and we're willing to do this in public.

4679
08:10:49,100 --> 08:10:51,400
I mean, if we feel that there's a need for executive session,

4680
08:10:51,800 --> 08:10:53,540
we'll let you know all of you let us know.

4681
08:10:53,800 --> 08:10:54,080
Understood.

4682
08:10:54,520 --> 08:10:55,660
Thank you.

4683
08:11:11,420 --> 08:11:14,100
I guess you have to keep in mind the litigation is ongoing, correct?

4684
08:11:15,420 --> 08:11:15,440
All right.

4685
08:11:15,580 --> 08:11:22,140
So I mean, so is there any information you give us out here without affecting that litigation?

4686
08:11:27,950 --> 08:11:29,030
I'm good evening.

4687
08:11:29,710 --> 08:11:32,210
My name is Marie Napoli from Napoli Skolnik.

4688
08:11:32,930 --> 08:11:40,150
I'm here today with South Dallas, and we're representing you in this litigation.

4689
08:11:40,150 --> 08:11:43,670
And we have today the settlement with the big three.

4690
08:11:44,430 --> 08:11:47,570
And I will have Sal, give you the details of that.

4691
08:11:47,570 --> 08:11:51,010
But we're recommending that you accept this settlement.

4692
08:11:53,550 --> 08:11:54,170
Good evening.

4693
08:11:54,310 --> 08:11:55,030
Thank you.

4694
08:11:55,630 --> 08:11:59,470
This is similar to Salvatore Bidalin from Nathlete Schollin.

4695
08:11:59,790 --> 08:12:02,410
This is similar to the Johnson & Johnson settlement.

4696
08:12:02,410 --> 08:12:04,090
We discussed a few weeks ago.

4697
08:12:04,230 --> 08:12:06,950
It is a New York State settlement that's pursuant

4698
08:12:06,950 --> 08:12:08,170
to the allocation agreement.

4699
08:12:09,090 --> 08:12:11,410
But one thing that is different is

4700
08:12:11,410 --> 08:12:17,530
is an additional amount of money that NASA County gets for actually litigating this case along

4701
08:12:17,530 --> 08:12:23,450
with Suffolk County, and that would be paid on September 30th at additional money. In addition

4702
08:12:23,450 --> 08:12:29,270
to that, there is injunctive relief, similar to Johnson and Johnson, like we discussed, which would

4703
08:12:29,270 --> 08:12:35,430
help to cut off the supply of opioids that have been pouring into the community. Additionally,

4704
08:12:35,430 --> 08:12:44,230
NATO-NASO County will get a membership board that will actually oversee the entire country when

4705
08:12:44,230 --> 08:12:45,530
it comes to the jump to believe.

4706
08:12:46,030 --> 08:12:51,450
So NASO County will be one of 17 different states and municipalities that are on this board

4707
08:12:51,450 --> 08:12:54,190
that can actually oversee the jump to release.

4708
08:12:54,630 --> 08:12:58,990
And just as was mentioned, just an update on litigation itself without getting into detail,

4709
08:12:59,130 --> 08:13:03,490
that litigation is still going on against four remaining defendants.

4710
08:13:03,490 --> 08:13:10,490
And if this, exactly, I'm sorry, we're currently in trial at Toro with those four remaining defendants.

4711
08:13:11,770 --> 08:13:18,230
I would just note for the record that we had a lengthy discussion three weeks ago, a lengthy presentation, which was excellent.

4712
08:13:19,430 --> 08:13:23,230
So that's why we did not need to go to executive session tonight.

4713
08:13:23,910 --> 08:13:25,250
I understand, thank you.

4714
08:13:25,950 --> 08:13:29,090
Do you have any issue with mentioning the amount?

4715
08:13:29,690 --> 08:13:31,370
No, we can mention them.

4716
08:13:31,830 --> 08:13:37,470
The allocation for the New York-wide settlement, it's a range because we have to see how many

4717
08:13:37,470 --> 08:13:39,510
other communities sign on for New York State.

4718
08:13:39,930 --> 08:13:43,990
It's not part of a national, it's not contingent on say, I was signing on, it's just

4719
08:13:43,990 --> 08:13:45,390
for New York State.

4720
08:13:45,690 --> 08:13:49,350
National, the range is between 52 million and 66 million.

4721
08:13:49,650 --> 08:13:54,950
However, like I said, there's that additional sum of money of $20 million that gets paid

4722
08:13:54,950 --> 08:13:55,830
to national counties.

4723
08:13:55,830 --> 08:13:57,610
So you can add that on time.

4724
08:13:59,420 --> 08:14:00,200
You're welcome.

4725
08:14:01,120 --> 08:14:01,580
Thank you again.

4726
08:14:01,780 --> 08:14:02,940
And you have the lead service.

4727
08:14:05,740 --> 08:14:06,100
Thank you again.

4728
08:14:06,440 --> 08:14:08,000
Thank you for continuing work for us.

4729
08:14:08,140 --> 08:14:08,640
We appreciate it.

4730
08:14:08,700 --> 08:14:09,060
Thank you.

4731
08:14:09,980 --> 08:14:10,740
Great results.

4732
08:14:12,840 --> 08:14:13,720
27, 2000.

4733
08:14:13,940 --> 08:14:14,160
I'm sorry.

4734
08:14:14,400 --> 08:14:15,060
Before we go to that.

4735
08:14:15,920 --> 08:14:18,260
Any debated discussion on these two items?

4736
08:14:18,980 --> 08:14:19,860
Hearing none.

4737
08:14:20,440 --> 08:14:22,180
All favour of 283 and 284.

4738
08:14:22,380 --> 08:14:23,080
Seeing none.

4739
08:14:24,060 --> 08:14:24,900
Those opposed.

4740
08:14:25,560 --> 08:14:26,180
Carry unanimously.

4741
08:14:27,780 --> 08:14:31,520
I guess we have two more emergencies to do.

4742
08:14:33,280 --> 08:14:33,500
One, sir.

4743
08:14:33,560 --> 08:14:34,340
Why don't you read them both?

4744
08:14:34,540 --> 08:14:35,000
I will.

4745
08:14:36,380 --> 08:14:37,540
Emergency Resolution.

4746
08:14:38,040 --> 08:14:39,660
The number 10 dash, 2021.

4747
08:14:40,800 --> 08:14:43,710
An emergency resolution declaring an emergency or immediate action.

4748
08:14:44,640 --> 08:14:47,680
Upon a resolution authorizing the county executive enter into.

4749
08:14:48,660 --> 08:14:52,770
An execute grant agreement and subscriptions agreement on behalf of the county's

4750
08:14:53,360 --> 08:14:54,560
Veteran Service Agency.

4751
08:14:54,560 --> 08:14:59,800
It varies not for profit, better in organizations that are funded with money.

4752
08:15:00,050 --> 08:15:09,950
Receive by the county under the American Rescue Plan, local fiscal recovery fund, and which have been supplementary appropriated.

4753
08:15:11,770 --> 08:15:21,630
To fund grant agreements with such not-for-profit veterans' organization will purpose of responding to these effects of the public health emergency caused by the COVID-19 pandemic,

4754
08:15:21,630 --> 08:15:24,830
where it's negative economic impacts.

4755
08:15:25,490 --> 08:15:36,850
The second emergency that is in view is 11-21 emergency resolution, resolution number, and

4756
08:15:36,850 --> 08:15:42,630
emergency declaring an emergency for immediate action upon a resolution authorizing the county

4757
08:15:42,630 --> 08:15:49,110
executive to enter into its sub-recipient agreement with the Long Island Water Conference

4758
08:15:49,110 --> 08:15:55,150
to administer a program on behalf of the County Department of Public Works to provide grants

4759
08:15:55,150 --> 08:16:00,930
to water suppliers and NASA County for the purpose of the frame that caused associated

4760
08:16:00,930 --> 08:16:06,750
with treatment and removal of contaminants from the drinking water, which shall be funded

4761
08:16:06,750 --> 08:16:12,910
with money received by the County under the American Rescue Plan's local fiscal recovery

4762
08:16:12,910 --> 08:16:19,350
refund and which has been supplementally appropriated as part of the County's Water Quality Protection

4763
08:16:19,350 --> 08:16:25,170
Initiative, with the purpose of making necessary investments in drinking water infrastructure.

4764
08:16:28,020 --> 08:16:29,140
Thank you.

4765
08:16:29,460 --> 08:16:31,880
Any motion to establish the emergency?

4766
08:16:34,920 --> 08:16:37,480
Let us let a road, second by let's let me like.

4767
08:16:38,460 --> 08:16:40,560
Well, I need the discussion on that.

4768
08:16:40,720 --> 08:16:45,460
All in favor of establishing the emergency signify by saying aye, aye, those opposed.

4769
08:16:45,460 --> 08:16:50,400
The emergency is established, and with the consent of the minority, I think we can

4770
08:16:50,400 --> 08:16:56,040
wave reading of these two items, but they are items 287 and 288s.

4771
08:16:56,100 --> 08:17:03,800
We need a motion by, let's say, for ready, seconded by, let's say the Bino, on these two items.

4772
08:17:06,040 --> 08:17:09,000
There are some of them in the administration that would want to address these two.

4773
08:17:17,120 --> 08:17:18,540
Good evening, legislators.

4774
08:17:19,920 --> 08:17:25,280
The two items before you relate to the American Rescue Plan and the county's continuing

4775
08:17:25,280 --> 08:17:30,120
programming of the funding allotted to the county.

4776
08:17:30,700 --> 08:17:39,740
As mentioned, the first request a proposal would be to benefit our veterans, as the county

4777
08:17:39,740 --> 08:17:49,440
has appropriated $1 million in ARP funds for $8 to veterans impacted by the COVID-19 pandemic.

4778
08:17:50,620 --> 08:17:57,480
The county has put forth or is putting forth two programs that would be funded through

4779
08:17:57,480 --> 08:18:04,600
this $1 million dollar law that the distinction here is out of the realm of veterans'

4780
08:18:04,600 --> 08:18:12,780
organizations. There are 501C-3 organizations. And in that case, the county can make

4781
08:18:12,780 --> 08:18:20,720
subrecipient agreements and grants to those organizations. So if you are a 501C-3, you are

4782
08:18:20,720 --> 08:18:29,560
eligible under the ARP program to recoup costs, you are also eligible to render services

4783
08:18:29,560 --> 08:18:35,620
to veterans who were impacted and qualified under ARP.

4784
08:18:36,360 --> 08:18:44,360
The non-Fivell1C3s are, for instance, your VFW post, your American Legion posts.

4785
08:18:44,860 --> 08:18:47,780
Those are known as Fivell1C19s.

4786
08:18:48,080 --> 08:18:54,440
In that case, those organizations are eligible as a subrecipient to the county, to render

4787
08:18:54,440 --> 08:18:58,200
services to, again, to veterans who were impacted.

4788
08:18:58,200 --> 08:19:05,500
They are not per as per ARPA eligible to recoup loss costs.

4789
08:19:06,380 --> 08:19:14,320
So again, 501C3s are eligible as a subrecipient or grant recipient to recoup costs

4790
08:19:14,320 --> 08:19:21,300
or render services, 501C19s, which are your VFWs, your American Legion Posts, are not able

4791
08:19:21,300 --> 08:19:22,980
to recoup costs.

4792
08:19:22,980 --> 08:19:28,560
but they are able to render services to help veterans who have been impacted.

4793
08:19:29,500 --> 08:19:35,860
Out of the $1 million we are looking to make grants and subrecipient agreements to as many

4794
08:19:35,860 --> 08:19:37,800
organizations as we can.

4795
08:19:38,200 --> 08:19:44,380
The portal, the boost portal is open so we are looking to encourage those organizations to

4796
08:19:44,380 --> 08:19:44,860
apply.

4797
08:19:44,860 --> 08:20:04,100
We have placed a cap per grant or per subrecipient agreement at $10,000 each in order to reach as many organizations into provide grants and subrecipient agreements to as many organizations as possible attached to your packet.

4798
08:20:04,100 --> 08:20:12,860
We do have a non-exhaustive list of veterans organizations, both 501C3s and non-C3s that we will

4799
08:20:12,860 --> 08:20:19,400
be doing targeted outreach to ensure that if these organizations have the capacity to do

4800
08:20:19,400 --> 08:20:24,180
this type of work that they apply through the boost portal and we receive those applications

4801
08:20:25,120 --> 08:20:31,920
so that we can make those grants and super-supercipient agreements as quickly as possible.

4802
08:20:31,920 --> 08:20:33,600
Let's sort of forward.

4803
08:20:33,880 --> 08:20:34,340
Thank you.

4804
08:20:34,900 --> 08:20:35,160
Sorry.

4805
08:20:35,880 --> 08:20:36,360
Thank you.

4806
08:20:44,500 --> 08:20:46,300
Now I'm the residing officer.

4807
08:20:48,080 --> 08:20:48,920
It's all my plan.

4808
08:20:49,720 --> 08:20:50,900
But thank you.

4809
08:20:51,120 --> 08:20:54,060
In regards to the Veterans of Organizations, what type of services?

4810
08:20:54,280 --> 08:20:59,740
What is it that makes them eligible to be able to get this grant of up to 10,000?

4811
08:21:00,400 --> 08:21:00,700
Sure.

4812
08:21:01,140 --> 08:21:08,660
So the 501C3 organizations, again, if they have had or they offer catering services to veterans,

4813
08:21:08,660 --> 08:21:13,540
and so forth. And due to the pandemic, they were unable to operate. They are eligible for

4814
08:21:13,540 --> 08:21:22,300
cost recovery. On the service side, they can provide services such as food drives, clothing,

4815
08:21:22,540 --> 08:21:30,640
and transportation drives, funds can also be used to bring any rent mortgages or utilities up

4816
08:21:30,640 --> 08:21:36,240
to, you know, up to current status for those, for those organizations.

4817
08:21:38,020 --> 08:21:42,060
The Veterans Organizations that are not seat-free, so the BFW, the American Regions,

4818
08:21:42,460 --> 08:21:50,360
they can also hold events to help their veteran constituents, so if it's a sort of a job

4819
08:21:50,360 --> 08:21:55,920
fair or job training and placement, those sort of things will be eligible for utilization

4820
08:21:55,920 --> 08:21:56,760
of these funds.

4821
08:21:57,000 --> 08:22:00,620
So as long as they provide something that will help, you know, maybe educate some of

4822
08:22:00,620 --> 08:22:05,100
veterans, they help them to be like veterans, to like, you know, when you do the stand-down or

4823
08:22:05,100 --> 08:22:09,460
something like that, like maybe educate them with different things?

4824
08:22:10,520 --> 08:22:18,900
Yes, in terms of, they need to be eligible for the ARPA eligible, you know, I am so if it's

4825
08:22:18,900 --> 08:22:26,080
job training or job placement or job referrals, because veterans, as a group was not specifically

4826
08:22:26,080 --> 08:22:33,400
mentioned in ARPA, but veterans who were economically impacted and are eligible under ARPA can

4827
08:22:33,400 --> 08:22:38,820
receive these services through the organizations. So we can job referral services, that's

4828
08:22:38,820 --> 08:22:42,500
sort of thing. So if they host it, they'll be able to get up to $10,000.

4829
08:22:42,980 --> 08:22:49,400
The organizations that host exactly, they'll be able to get up to that amount to host or

4830
08:22:49,400 --> 08:22:58,700
provide that service to the veterans themselves do not receive and that'll be it'll be spelled out on the

4831
08:22:58,700 --> 08:23:07,440
booths, NASA portal. It is so the scope of work is actually pre-populated in the booths portal so the ideas to make it as simple as possible for these

4832
08:23:07,440 --> 08:23:13,900
organizations. To go in they put in their organizational information they're basically checking a box that they can

4833
08:23:13,900 --> 08:23:17,180
the former, they will conform to the pre-populated scope of work.

4834
08:23:17,880 --> 08:23:22,920
And can they also go, because I know that it was indicated that we're going to open up

4835
08:23:22,920 --> 08:23:26,900
a site in Eisenhower, we'll talk, we have like three or four people that will be there.

4836
08:23:27,700 --> 08:23:32,280
So, can, like, if a veteran's organization was in truck, and they go there to have their

4837
08:23:32,280 --> 08:23:37,240
questions answered and, like, maybe have their applications submitted at that time, they

4838
08:23:37,240 --> 08:23:37,900
can make an appointment?

4839
08:23:38,180 --> 08:23:38,640
Absolutely.

4840
08:23:38,940 --> 08:23:43,320
And as encouraged, if, you know, they can certainly go online and try to do that themselves

4841
08:23:43,320 --> 08:23:49,680
Otherwise, they're free to go to the resource center and Eisenhower Park and a staff person will help them fill out the application.

4842
08:23:49,960 --> 08:23:59,240
And then, like you said, your outreach will you be indicating that to the Veterans Organizations that we're going to encourage you to do it online, but if you have questions, call or you can go to Eisenhower Park.

4843
08:23:59,280 --> 08:24:00,120
On down, absolutely.

4844
08:24:00,280 --> 08:24:02,620
Okay, and then the last question, because it's late.

4845
08:24:04,520 --> 08:24:10,160
But we have one where they do, we have a woman who offers, she works with veterans with PTSD.

4846
08:24:10,160 --> 08:24:21,520
So she might do exercise classes with, she might do acupuncture and things like that, strictly for veterans, would she be somebody who would be eligible under the 501-3C veterans?

4847
08:24:22,760 --> 08:24:26,120
If she is rendering a service that is eligible under or...

4848
08:24:26,120 --> 08:24:26,480
Okay.

4849
08:24:26,720 --> 08:24:35,560
Social security, housing security, unemployment, those types of services to reduce those insecurities and unemployment, yes, should be eligible.

4850
08:24:35,800 --> 08:24:36,980
Okay, thank you very much.

4851
08:24:36,980 --> 08:24:42,620
Okay, so let me just follow up on it and let's set it for me and ask this,

4852
08:24:45,480 --> 08:24:46,240
but you developing

4853
08:24:46,240 --> 08:24:52,680
a program to go out to the various veterans or bring them into explain this entire process

4854
08:24:53,820 --> 08:24:58,080
because the directing that we're going to go to boostness or portal is not for the most part

4855
08:24:58,080 --> 08:24:59,080
going to be very helpful.

4856
08:24:59,280 --> 08:25:03,860
They're going to have to be walked through the process, shown how it is and services that

4857
08:25:03,860 --> 08:25:05,960
can't be rendered that will be reimbursed.

4858
08:25:06,840 --> 08:25:20,820
Yes, and our veteran services agency will be spearheading that effort, my understanding is there is a meeting that's being set up with the sort of the larger applications organizations to inform them of this opportunity.

4859
08:25:22,080 --> 08:25:23,380
Let's let a road to that opportunity.

4860
08:25:24,000 --> 08:25:26,400
Yeah, just a couple of my promise quick questions.

4861
08:25:26,940 --> 08:25:33,880
With respect to the 50C 503C 19s.

4862
08:25:34,740 --> 08:25:43,620
Is it for services that they can provide moving forward or can they seek reimbursement for services that were provided during the course of the pandemic?

4863
08:25:43,960 --> 08:25:47,680
Many of them did food drive, many of them did think, are they able to go back retroactively?

4864
08:25:50,600 --> 08:25:57,800
Legislature, we'll have to look into if they can get reimbursed for services that have already been rendered prior to them receiving the sub recipient agreement.

4865
08:25:57,800 --> 08:26:05,800
Okay, and with respect to the $10,000 limit for both 501 and C3s and 501, C19s.

4866
08:26:06,600 --> 08:26:13,700
Is that $10,000 limit something that we've established or the administration is established or is that something that's actually established in orbit?

4867
08:26:14,260 --> 08:26:18,500
It is not established in orbit, something that the administration has established.

4868
08:26:19,220 --> 08:26:24,400
With the point being getting as many organizations grants as possible.

4869
08:26:24,400 --> 08:26:30,360
We originally had a list of about 100 of VW post-American Legion posts.

4870
08:26:30,700 --> 08:26:36,540
We know that it can be maybe more than that number, but we know some organizations

4871
08:26:36,540 --> 08:26:38,200
are in his active as others.

4872
08:26:38,660 --> 08:26:45,060
So 10,000 should be enough for many of these organizations to do some real meaningful work.

4873
08:26:45,740 --> 08:26:50,000
But again, it was a county decision and not a requirement in Auckland.

4874
08:26:50,000 --> 08:26:55,080
Now, I know that the majority, it's not on to a letter that we had sent to the,

4875
08:26:55,720 --> 08:27:00,040
that we sent, I believe, Senator Schumer and Senator Gilbrand, asking them to,

4876
08:27:01,600 --> 08:27:05,000
to seek an amendment to the guidance to permit 501C,

4877
08:27:06,080 --> 08:27:10,260
19s to be considered the same as 501C3s for the purposes of benefits.

4878
08:27:10,820 --> 08:27:13,300
Have you heard any updates from the federal government,

4879
08:27:13,420 --> 08:27:14,980
with respect to whether that's being considered?

4880
08:27:17,970 --> 08:27:20,470
I don't believe we have a legislature actually.

4881
08:27:21,030 --> 08:27:28,770
Who is part of the issue is that the FW Halls and American Legion Halls usually rely on rental income

4882
08:27:29,890 --> 08:27:34,930
from events for their sustenance, and obviously they've missed out on that for 16 months.

4883
08:27:36,030 --> 08:27:42,810
So, them being excluded as 501C-19s from being able to seek reimbursement from money that they've lost.

4884
08:27:42,970 --> 08:27:45,130
Now, obviously there's a tremendous issue for them.

4885
08:27:46,150 --> 08:27:46,770
Have you heard anything?

4886
08:27:46,770 --> 08:27:57,370
Or no, we will follow up with you on any guidance that's either forthcoming or or as for it already been issued by the by the Treasury.

4887
08:27:57,490 --> 08:28:08,310
I appreciate that and if we can actually try the administration consistent pressing that issue to try and get a more expensive definition definition, I'm sure there would be helpful.

4888
08:28:09,390 --> 08:28:16,750
Lastly, with respect to other not for profits, obviously, this is only with respect to veterans organizations was before us today.

4889
08:28:16,750 --> 08:28:24,330
is there a plan to allocate any funds to other not-for-profit organizations like Lyons, likes

4890
08:28:24,330 --> 08:28:32,530
of Columbus, other catering type facilities that lost money during the philanthropic organizations

4891
08:28:32,530 --> 08:28:35,770
that lost money during the pandemic, but usually rely on catering funds.

4892
08:28:37,210 --> 08:28:42,450
My understanding is that those organizations would be eligible for if they are rendering

4893
08:28:42,450 --> 08:28:47,550
services under other programs that will be rolled out under the county's opera,

4894
08:28:47,770 --> 08:28:52,510
money that have already been appropriated, but as for cost recovery for those types

4895
08:28:52,510 --> 08:28:55,390
of organizations, I think that's your question.

4896
08:28:56,330 --> 08:29:00,690
I'm going to have to get back to the legislature on whether or not that's a sort of

4897
08:29:00,690 --> 08:29:01,430
a next step for us.

4898
08:29:01,670 --> 08:29:02,490
Thank you, Mr. South.

4899
08:29:02,710 --> 08:29:02,890
Okay, sir.

4900
08:29:04,950 --> 08:29:07,450
Okay, any other questions on this side?

4901
08:29:08,930 --> 08:29:09,210
All right.

4902
08:29:09,210 --> 08:29:12,870
Do you want to jump into the water conservation?

4903
08:29:13,490 --> 08:29:13,730
Certainly.

4904
08:29:18,260 --> 08:29:23,900
So this item pertains to the water conservation

4905
08:29:23,900 --> 08:29:26,760
ARPA program that the county has established.

4906
08:29:27,420 --> 08:29:32,180
Of the $6 million that was appropriated back in June for the water conservation

4907
08:29:32,180 --> 08:29:35,940
of water quality program, this is a smaller

4908
08:29:35,940 --> 08:29:45,380
of that total, of that total, 6 million, the administration is proposing $1,550,000,

4909
08:29:45,560 --> 08:29:57,700
or for a water quality initiative, that those funds would be, excuse me, would be.

4910
08:30:00,000 --> 08:30:19,920
Move through a subreciping agreement to the long-out and water conference so that the water conference can then distribute and allocate grants to each of the public and private water districts in NASA County to provide funding for upgrades to their treatment facilities, their portable water treatment facilities.

4911
08:30:19,920 --> 08:30:24,720
So we've all heard of the one-four dioxane and emerging other emerging contaminants.

4912
08:30:25,460 --> 08:30:33,980
This funding would go to those water districts to make those capital improvements to improve

4913
08:30:33,980 --> 08:30:37,280
the water quality for our residents.

4914
08:30:37,960 --> 08:30:42,140
We are proposing grants up to $50,000 to each eligible water district.

4915
08:30:42,940 --> 08:30:49,060
Again, that $50,000 could go to capital for upgrading their treatment facilities.

4916
08:30:49,060 --> 08:30:56,700
The Long Island Water Conference would be engaged through this subrecipient agreement with the county to administer the program.

4917
08:30:58,720 --> 08:31:08,680
The Long Island Water Conference would then administer the program on all behalf and work with the public and private water districts to make those grants.

4918
08:31:08,680 --> 08:31:16,660
Those water districts will apply to the county and to the Long Island Water Conference for grants.

4919
08:31:17,200 --> 08:31:20,820
And we will track that through the Boost NASA portal.

4920
08:31:23,530 --> 08:31:26,230
Any questions on this?

4921
08:31:26,230 --> 08:31:27,350
Let's get a look.

4922
08:31:28,790 --> 08:31:31,350
I know it's up to 50,000.

4923
08:31:32,270 --> 08:31:39,730
Would that be determined by the number of wells that they need to put treatment on?

4924
08:31:39,730 --> 08:31:45,830
I mean, I guess some districts might not, if they were lucky, and they didn't have any contaminants in their water,

4925
08:31:46,130 --> 08:31:53,330
they might not have to address it all, and yet there are other districts that are buried under with contaminants.

4926
08:31:54,510 --> 08:31:57,850
But the max, any one would receive would be the 50,000.

4927
08:31:58,730 --> 08:32:00,030
Would be the 50,000.

4928
08:32:00,170 --> 08:32:06,310
We are asking the districts to, in their applications, to explain what they held a plan on using the funding.

4929
08:32:06,310 --> 08:32:25,910
So if they are a larger district or they have a, with their district has a more, a predominant issue with, with contaminants that would surely determine how much funding out of the 50,000 cap they would receive, but at this time we don't plan going over 50,000 per water district.

4930
08:32:27,430 --> 08:32:28,550
Thank you.

4931
08:32:30,430 --> 08:32:31,710
Let's head back down.

4932
08:32:32,390 --> 08:32:34,590
Is this similar to what you said before with the veterans?

4933
08:32:34,870 --> 08:32:36,890
What if they've already started the work?

4934
08:32:37,730 --> 08:32:42,090
And, you know, they're already at a later stage of the work with this grant be applicable?

4935
08:32:49,530 --> 08:32:50,570
Good evening, Branch Nighter.

4936
08:32:50,670 --> 08:32:52,810
That's the executive of Parks and Public Works.

4937
08:32:53,770 --> 08:32:58,890
So, legislator, your question is if a water district is experiencing contamination,

4938
08:32:58,890 --> 08:33:05,210
of the already started a project remediation project, you know, basically we're asking what

4939
08:33:05,210 --> 08:33:11,570
it districts to provide justification for whatever issues they're having specific to emerging

4940
08:33:11,570 --> 08:33:14,530
contaminants, one-four-to-oxane or PFOPFLAs.

4941
08:33:15,170 --> 08:33:19,850
If they have other contamination, it does not, this funding does not cover that.

4942
08:33:19,850 --> 08:33:25,590
If they have nitrogen issues or other organic or interganic issues, this is only specific to

4943
08:33:25,590 --> 08:33:27,290
the emerging contamination.

4944
08:33:27,290 --> 08:33:46,990
So if there is a project that they've already started, $50,000 is not a lot of money when it comes to the cost of the remediation projects, but the $50,000 could be used for any portion of their project, whether it's replacing chemicals or a physical testing that they need to do.

4945
08:33:47,210 --> 08:33:54,250
So it's anything that has to do with that emerging contaminant project going forward.

4946
08:33:56,050 --> 08:33:58,730
Just said going forward, so it is just going forward?

4947
08:33:59,090 --> 08:34:04,150
Yeah, I mean, if they can justify the cost that they have, if they're putting in a treatment

4948
08:34:04,150 --> 08:34:10,050
unit that is specific to treating one-for-a-dancing now, that would be certainly an eligible

4949
08:34:10,050 --> 08:34:10,570
expense.

4950
08:34:10,690 --> 08:34:14,290
Again, the long-out water conference is going to be overseeing an administering this.

4951
08:34:14,990 --> 08:34:21,250
So as water professionals, they will also be working with our consultants and using the guidance

4952
08:34:21,250 --> 08:34:26,750
on the U.S. Treasury to make sure that it conforms to all the requirements to make sure

4953
08:34:26,750 --> 08:34:29,690
that the money is going to be spent in a proper form.

4954
08:34:30,050 --> 08:34:32,990
Okay, Emily, we'd be reaching out to all the water districts.

4955
08:34:33,130 --> 08:34:37,590
Yes, the water conference we've already had a number of meetings with them. They're very

4956
08:34:37,590 --> 08:34:42,250
excited. They're wishing that the decimal point can move a little bit to provide more funding,

4957
08:34:43,050 --> 08:34:48,570
but keep in mind we are going to have another bucket of money that's going to become available next

4958
08:34:48,570 --> 08:34:54,610
here so we're hoping that we'll be able to expand the program depending upon the need and

4959
08:34:54,610 --> 08:34:55,210
the success.

4960
08:34:55,330 --> 08:34:55,910
Okay, great.

4961
08:34:56,110 --> 08:34:56,470
Thank you.

4962
08:34:59,160 --> 08:34:59,480
Okay.

4963
08:34:59,800 --> 08:35:00,720
Any other questions?

4964
08:35:03,550 --> 08:35:04,210
Thank you.

4965
08:35:04,250 --> 08:35:04,750
Thank you.

4966
08:35:04,910 --> 08:35:05,890
I wish you all the best.

4967
08:35:06,530 --> 08:35:08,090
Thank you.

4968
08:35:08,270 --> 08:35:08,530
I don't know.

4969
08:35:10,530 --> 08:35:12,010
That's about 12 hours now.

4970
08:35:14,570 --> 08:35:14,730
Okay.

4971
08:35:15,350 --> 08:35:17,790
All in favor of these items, signify by saying aye.

4972
08:35:17,870 --> 08:35:18,350
Aye.

4973
08:35:18,470 --> 08:35:19,430
Those opposed.

4974
08:35:20,130 --> 08:35:20,850
Carry unanimously.

4975
08:35:20,850 --> 08:35:26,210
We're going back to the regular calendar, we have hearing on a local law to amend the

4976
08:35:26,210 --> 08:35:30,070
National County Administrative Code to create a special revenue fund to assist

4977
08:35:30,070 --> 08:35:34,670
National County to combat the opioid epidemic,

4978
08:35:37,310 --> 08:35:41,650
who by legislative walker, seconded by

4979
08:35:41,650 --> 08:35:52,250
legislative druger, that's a motion to open the hearing. All the favour of opening

4980
08:35:52,250 --> 08:35:58,510
It's really brief, this special revenue fund will ensure that money is from the settlements

4981
08:36:00,010 --> 08:36:06,470
grow to the open, to go to actually combat a new opioid epidemic, including interventions,

4982
08:36:07,010 --> 08:36:12,270
recovery services, education, support, and assistance to those that suffer from opioid addiction

4983
08:36:12,270 --> 08:36:13,150
into their families.

4984
08:36:14,150 --> 08:36:20,250
I know where we have to slip from Brian Sullivan, President of Corrections Office, but never

4985
08:36:20,250 --> 08:36:20,810
And so I was

4986
08:36:28,390 --> 08:36:29,070
just...

4987
08:36:29,070 --> 08:36:30,890
I could eat any of these as far as possible.

4988
08:36:31,250 --> 08:36:33,190
I know it's late we've had a very long day.

4989
08:36:34,350 --> 08:36:36,130
Earlier today when we did the top caps,

4990
08:36:36,990 --> 08:36:40,350
it was a very good event as always,

4991
08:36:40,590 --> 08:36:43,630
but one thing that I always pick up on when the police come up

4992
08:36:43,630 --> 08:36:46,210
and the commissioner comes up we talk about the comprehensive training

4993
08:36:46,750 --> 08:36:48,650
and PD training that they get,

4994
08:36:48,730 --> 08:36:53,250
and that's what kind of launches me into my normal issues here.

4995
08:36:53,470 --> 08:36:55,470
We've got in the opioid issue on the opioid settlements

4996
08:36:55,470 --> 08:37:00,090
since long before the opioid crisis, and the drug overdose issue became front-page headline news,

4997
08:37:00,270 --> 08:37:04,530
local correctional institutions have been at the forefront of this drug scourge that has

4998
08:37:04,530 --> 08:37:09,370
affected countless lives. We have recognized for years the beneficial effect of inmate programs

4999
08:37:09,370 --> 08:37:14,250
and officer training, designed to address the crisis of addiction and mental health issues that

5000
08:37:14,250 --> 08:37:18,990
must be confronted to lay the correct path for inmates to follow that will allow for a successful

5001
08:37:18,990 --> 08:37:23,890
transition to their communities upon their release from our facilities. With that in mind,

5002
08:37:23,890 --> 08:37:28,090
I bring to your urgent attention the need for funding of these programs in our facility,

5003
08:37:28,270 --> 08:37:32,470
funding that, as you can imagine, just like everything else in our facility has been cut

5004
08:37:32,470 --> 08:37:35,050
to ribbons or deleted over the last several years.

5005
08:37:35,690 --> 08:37:41,230
There's a cautionary tale to be told here, which I understood is being avoided by the

5006
08:37:41,230 --> 08:37:46,250
formation of this fund, which is the $200 billion tobacco settlement in 1998.

5007
08:37:46,830 --> 08:37:50,650
Only fractions of that money went to preventing smoking and helping people quit, instead

5008
08:37:50,650 --> 08:37:56,610
the money went to plug holes in state and local budgets. Johnson and Johnson is paying $5 billion

5009
08:37:56,610 --> 08:38:00,950
to my knowledge, a Marisaurus Bergen and Cardinal Health is paying $6.4 billion. This

5010
08:38:00,950 --> 08:38:06,530
is all in the federal level, and the Kesson is paying $7.9 billion, incredibly $2 billion

5011
08:38:06,530 --> 08:38:13,250
of that is reserved for lawyers' fees. I guess I'm in the wrong business. But $120 something

5012
08:38:13,250 --> 08:38:17,570
million is going to be coming now, so county's way. The second biggest care settlement

5013
08:38:17,570 --> 08:38:21,850
behind to backoh, and at least 70% of the money is to go to a bait and activities such

5014
08:38:21,850 --> 08:38:26,550
as providing Narcan, helping the homeless with addiction problems or educating the public

5015
08:38:26,550 --> 08:38:27,850
on the dangers of drugs.

5016
08:38:28,550 --> 08:38:32,150
Everyone involved wants this money to go to opioid abatement around the country.

5017
08:38:32,750 --> 08:38:37,490
Please consider me an advocate on how I want to see this money, at least in our portion

5018
08:38:37,490 --> 08:38:39,170
here in Nassau County, spent.

5019
08:38:39,770 --> 08:38:45,270
A crucial excuse me, that a portion of this money be reserved for programs in the Nassau

5020
08:38:45,270 --> 08:38:50,910
national facility, both for inmate programs themselves, particularly with the advent of the

5021
08:38:50,910 --> 08:38:56,350
hot legislation that is being forced down our throats once again by Albany, by people

5022
08:38:56,350 --> 08:39:00,350
who have no idea how to run correctional facilities, but will mandate what is done inside

5023
08:39:00,350 --> 08:39:05,450
of them. And also for training of our correction officers, the opioid crisis is raised through

5024
08:39:05,450 --> 08:39:10,470
this county and country, and we deal with it every day in corrections, having to deal not

5025
08:39:10,470 --> 08:39:15,050
only with inmates who are mentally ill or others that are violent predators, but many of

5026
08:39:15,050 --> 08:39:20,450
who's criminality is directly related to their addiction to opioids and are now in our

5027
08:39:20,450 --> 08:39:25,730
department's problem to deal with. All with little to no resources. Programs for the inmates

5028
08:39:25,730 --> 08:39:29,430
and specialized training for our officers on how to deal with the mentally ill and addicted

5029
08:39:29,430 --> 08:39:34,230
is how this money would and should be spent at local correctional facilities like ours.

5030
08:39:34,610 --> 08:39:38,130
We cannot let this settlement be another one of the greatest missed public health and public

5031
08:39:38,130 --> 08:39:43,570
safety opportunities as was the tobacco settlement. Every element of this settlement should be geared

5032
08:39:43,570 --> 08:39:47,250
towards remediating the harm the scourge has caused and prevented from continuing.

5033
08:39:48,150 --> 08:39:52,010
And targeting those that have broken the law and caused pain and suffering to innumerable

5034
08:39:52,010 --> 08:39:57,410
families because of their actions connected to the opioid addiction, who are now residing

5035
08:39:57,410 --> 08:40:01,710
in our facilities, is one hell of a good targeting point to remediate this problem.

5036
08:40:02,210 --> 08:40:08,350
I am going to be all over our current administration that, as we know, are appointed and usually

5037
08:40:08,350 --> 08:40:11,510
have to get the OK from somebody before they speak in public.

5038
08:40:11,510 --> 08:40:17,010
And I want to be not the only person advocating for programs in the jail for inmates and

5039
08:40:17,010 --> 08:40:17,990
training for our officers.

5040
08:40:18,590 --> 08:40:21,190
I certainly hope that I'm not alone here and doing that advocacy.

5041
08:40:21,570 --> 08:40:22,410
Thank you very much.

5042
08:40:23,830 --> 08:40:28,590
I'm Brian, one of the money is in the fund that can't be spent unless legislature approves

5043
08:40:28,590 --> 08:40:29,170
this funding.

5044
08:40:30,230 --> 08:40:34,950
So I think it's speaking from all of us that we will certainly support progress for inmates.

5045
08:40:35,150 --> 08:40:39,110
I mean, it's certainly the front lines of battling the opioid epidemic.

5046
08:40:39,110 --> 08:40:41,670
And it has well-trained for your officers.

5047
08:40:42,210 --> 08:40:43,410
I appreciate that.

5048
08:40:43,410 --> 08:40:44,950
There's a lot of money in the county's bank.

5049
08:40:45,310 --> 08:40:45,890
There's a lot of training.

5050
08:40:46,610 --> 08:40:47,710
Not just on opioids.

5051
08:40:48,310 --> 08:40:48,910
Thank you.

5052
08:40:49,350 --> 08:40:53,110
Brian, you also, I'm sure that we all support you

5053
08:40:53,110 --> 08:40:53,970
and your efforts on this.

5054
08:40:54,470 --> 08:40:56,770
And I, you know, one of the women who used to work

5055
08:40:56,770 --> 08:40:59,170
and one of my assistants, Nadine, actually,

5056
08:40:59,970 --> 08:41:01,150
volunteers at the jail.

5057
08:41:01,530 --> 08:41:04,770
And on Friday nights, she helps with those who are covering

5058
08:41:05,390 --> 08:41:05,870
alcoholics.

5059
08:41:06,330 --> 08:41:09,090
And she had always spoken about the importance of that problem.

5060
08:41:09,090 --> 08:41:14,490
program and how beneficial it had been to so many of the inmates there.

5061
08:41:14,950 --> 08:41:19,090
So I'm sure that the same can be said for those that are going through opioid addiction

5062
08:41:19,090 --> 08:41:24,930
and any of the type of addiction, so anything that can help these people turn their lives

5063
08:41:24,930 --> 08:41:25,790
around and get on their tracks.

5064
08:41:25,790 --> 08:41:29,410
We need to have a lot of good programs in the United States and we need to bring the

5065
08:41:29,410 --> 08:41:30,490
back education.

5066
08:41:30,830 --> 08:41:31,750
We just need it.

5067
08:41:31,750 --> 08:41:32,430
We have the money.

5068
08:41:32,770 --> 08:41:37,750
Let's start investing because I think we could save a lot of people, you know, that way.

5069
08:41:38,190 --> 08:41:41,290
I appreciate it. Thank you.

5070
08:41:41,450 --> 08:41:42,070
Let's not walk.

5071
08:41:44,150 --> 08:41:46,270
I just want to quickly add.

5072
08:41:46,950 --> 08:41:52,050
I will be doing all I can to make sure that you receive

5073
08:41:52,050 --> 08:41:58,650
some of those funds to do education in any way that we can,

5074
08:41:58,650 --> 08:42:02,890
especially target the group that's in the Correction Center.

5075
08:42:03,390 --> 08:42:09,910
our inmates and certainly for our workers who are there, our corrections officers, and what

5076
08:42:09,910 --> 08:42:15,030
they can do to help and combat this, because hopefully when they, many of them, I'm sure

5077
08:42:15,030 --> 08:42:20,430
are in our corrections facility because of their opioid addiction, and hopefully it will

5078
08:42:20,430 --> 08:42:25,950
make a big difference for them when they get out, and hopefully have looked forward to a much

5079
08:42:25,950 --> 08:42:31,090
better life and not end up back in there, or end up even worse, not here at all.

5080
08:42:31,790 --> 08:42:36,030
But whatever we can do, I'm sure all of us will be pushing towards that.

5081
08:42:36,250 --> 08:42:37,750
I appreciate that much, like.

5082
08:42:39,130 --> 08:42:39,150
Okay.

5083
08:42:39,310 --> 08:42:40,350
Let's, like, be like.

5084
08:42:42,550 --> 08:42:44,310
Thank you, providing, presenting officer.

5085
08:42:45,050 --> 08:42:48,810
I fully support programs, certainly going to the correction facility.

5086
08:42:49,150 --> 08:42:51,830
But actually, I wanted to make another comment.

5087
08:42:52,010 --> 08:42:54,950
So if you want to meet a weight, I can do that.

5088
08:42:55,090 --> 08:42:55,790
On this.

5089
08:42:56,710 --> 08:42:57,010
Okay.

5090
08:42:58,550 --> 08:43:01,370
So one of my constituents came today,

5091
08:43:01,370 --> 08:43:08,890
intending to speak on this she she had a tragic situation in her family involving opioid addiction and

5092
08:43:09,970 --> 08:43:16,910
So I can't speak for her because I don't know exactly what she wanted to say, but I might be able to get her remarks

5093
08:43:16,910 --> 08:43:22,090
And you can add them to the record. I can't leave spots. Yeah, yeah,

5094
08:43:24,190 --> 08:43:26,950
so I have absolutely get every marks and we'll make sure it's part of the record

5095
08:43:26,950 --> 08:43:29,150
Okay, thank you

5096
08:43:29,830 --> 08:43:32,510
All right, put in anyone else.

5097
08:43:32,690 --> 08:43:33,570
No, thank you.

5098
08:43:33,850 --> 08:43:34,850
Thank you.

5099
08:43:37,370 --> 08:43:39,870
It's an emotion to close the hearing.

5100
08:43:41,290 --> 08:43:45,790
Most are closed by, let's say, the Drucker, seconded by legislative walker.

5101
08:43:46,030 --> 08:43:48,310
All in favor, close the hearing signify by saying aye.

5102
08:43:48,310 --> 08:43:48,650
Aye.

5103
08:43:48,970 --> 08:43:49,810
Those opposed.

5104
08:43:50,370 --> 08:43:51,470
All right, the hearing is closed.

5105
08:43:57,920 --> 08:44:00,760
Then we go to the vote on the item,

5106
08:44:03,370 --> 08:44:06,650
which will be item six, a local law to amend.

5107
08:44:06,650 --> 08:44:14,730
The National County Administrative Code to create a special revenue fund to assist the county to combat the opioid epidemic.

5108
08:44:15,870 --> 08:44:19,370
A little bi-legislator walker, seconded bi-legislator.

5109
08:44:20,910 --> 08:44:21,590
Burnbound.

5110
08:44:22,690 --> 08:44:24,010
Any debate or discussion?

5111
08:44:24,870 --> 08:44:26,010
The public comments?

5112
08:44:26,830 --> 08:44:28,510
Won't they have a single-pepper saying aye?

5113
08:44:29,470 --> 08:44:30,170
Those opposed?

5114
08:44:31,090 --> 08:44:32,150
Passes unanimously.

5115
08:44:34,380 --> 08:44:40,640
And four is a hearing on a local lot to amend the Nestor County Minister of Code to prohibit the refusal to serve first responders.

5116
08:44:41,640 --> 08:44:44,700
Motion to open a hearing by the Legislative Mayor of Aperham.

5117
08:44:44,700 --> 08:44:45,720
Minority in the Aperham.

5118
08:44:45,800 --> 08:44:47,840
Seconded by Deputy Visiting Officer Coppel.

5119
08:44:48,400 --> 08:44:49,680
All in favour of opening the hearing.

5120
08:44:49,800 --> 08:44:51,000
Seeing the pepper saying aye.

5121
08:44:51,520 --> 08:44:52,400
On the post.

5122
08:44:53,520 --> 08:44:54,400
Carries unanimously.

5123
08:44:54,600 --> 08:44:55,340
The hearing is open.

5124
08:45:00,530 --> 08:45:05,830
Any debate or discussion on this item?

5125
08:45:14,290 --> 08:45:15,150
How do you deal?

5126
08:45:15,550 --> 08:45:15,830
Okay.

5127
08:45:23,880 --> 08:45:24,060
I'm sure.

5128
08:45:26,720 --> 08:45:34,260
All right. Any debate or discussion on public comment on this post-local law?

5129
08:45:36,340 --> 08:45:37,060
Hearing none.

5130
08:45:37,440 --> 08:45:39,340
We wish to close the hearing.

5131
08:45:40,140 --> 08:45:41,820
By let's later.

5132
08:45:41,820 --> 08:45:48,580
Muscurella, seconded by Deputy Presiding Officer Coupel, dropped down to item number 8.

5133
08:45:48,840 --> 08:45:54,880
It's a local law to amend the National County Minister of Code to prohibit the refusal to serve first responders.

5134
08:45:56,040 --> 08:46:02,720
We'll buy a legislative walker, seconded by a legislative court, and he debate at the discussion and he public comment.

5135
08:46:03,700 --> 08:46:05,600
All in favour of signify by saying aye.

5136
08:46:06,380 --> 08:46:08,000
Those opposed carries unanimously.

5137
08:46:08,780 --> 08:46:11,340
And that number nine is not being called tonight.

5138
08:46:13,190 --> 08:46:17,750
We have to go to items, I'm 31.

5139
08:46:22,290 --> 08:46:28,050
31 is a resolution to establish a blue alert system to aid the identification location,

5140
08:46:28,450 --> 08:46:32,310
apprehensive apprehension of any individual or individual suspected of killing,

5141
08:46:32,450 --> 08:46:34,650
was seriously wounding any law enforcement officer.

5142
08:46:35,450 --> 08:46:38,170
Ambulance medical technician or police medic,

5143
08:46:46,700 --> 08:46:55,360
Thank you, President Officer. Very briefly. I proudly sponsor this bill, and I'm grateful for my college and the majority who amended this to include more of our first responders.

5144
08:46:56,000 --> 08:46:59,740
This bill establishes Nassau County's first ever blue alert system.

5145
08:46:59,740 --> 08:47:04,700
model after the amber alert system, the blue alert system will establish an emergency

5146
08:47:04,700 --> 08:47:09,740
communication protocol to alert the public of critical information regarding an individual

5147
08:47:09,740 --> 08:47:14,160
who either seriously angers or kills a cop. I think it is crucial and I urge a strong

5148
08:47:14,160 --> 08:47:14,860
guest vote.

5149
08:47:15,160 --> 08:47:15,880
Thank you.

5150
08:47:17,600 --> 08:47:17,940
Thank you.

5151
08:47:18,120 --> 08:47:20,820
Any other debate of discussion on this?

5152
08:47:21,040 --> 08:47:23,480
I mean, none of the favour signify by saying not

5153
08:47:25,490 --> 08:47:26,330
question.

5154
08:47:26,330 --> 08:47:32,350
Um, who actually will monitor a minister to the blue or system, I'll just put a record.

5155
08:47:32,630 --> 08:47:35,550
I figured it's a P.D., but I just want to make sure I establish that for the record.

5156
08:47:36,230 --> 08:47:39,910
So, per my bill, the police commissioner had sole authority to issue the alert.

5157
08:47:40,070 --> 08:47:44,650
I believe the majority's amendment was the police commissioner, and or his or her representatives, correct?

5158
08:47:45,010 --> 08:47:45,230
Yes.

5159
08:47:49,280 --> 08:47:50,340
Any other questions?

5160
08:47:51,540 --> 08:47:53,540
All in favor, signify by saying aye.

5161
08:47:53,780 --> 08:47:54,040
Aye.

5162
08:47:54,080 --> 08:47:54,160
Aye.

5163
08:47:54,160 --> 08:47:54,960
Those opposed.

5164
08:47:54,960 --> 08:47:56,380
carries unanimously.

5165
08:47:57,680 --> 08:48:01,020
I know 32, resolution 119, resolution 2.

5166
08:48:01,260 --> 08:48:07,640
Established a special legislative task force to combat anti-semitism.

5167
08:48:08,060 --> 08:48:12,220
Let's move by legislative drop a second and by legislative burn-bound.

5168
08:48:14,160 --> 08:48:24,160
There is an amendment to the nature of a substitution that will increase the number of community members on the task force for five to not less than, less than five and not more than 15.

5169
08:48:24,820 --> 08:48:28,940
the motion to amend by Deputy Attorney General Officer Co-Pell.

5170
08:48:30,860 --> 08:48:35,680
Seconded by Legislative Laphase and the debate of discussion on the amendments.

5171
08:48:38,340 --> 08:48:40,500
All in favour of the amendment to signify by saying aye.

5172
08:48:42,060 --> 08:48:46,500
Those opposed amendment passes unanimously, so now we have to consider the bill as amended.

5173
08:48:47,260 --> 08:48:49,900
All in favour of the resolution as amended, signify by saying aye.

5174
08:48:50,140 --> 08:48:51,720
So I can quite do that. Let's say the drop.

5175
08:48:53,240 --> 08:48:55,760
Thank you for letting us want to make a quick statement.

5176
08:48:55,980 --> 08:48:59,020
This was a bill that I introduced and I want to say that I'm very proud of my colleagues

5177
08:48:59,020 --> 08:49:04,360
on the legislature for joining me in recognizing the urgency of combating and eradicating

5178
08:49:04,360 --> 08:49:08,540
the shameful rise in anti-Semitism and hatred directed to choose.

5179
08:49:08,820 --> 08:49:14,060
This resolution is a working resolution designed to study the root causes of anti-Semitism

5180
08:49:14,060 --> 08:49:19,600
in our county where it comes from, where it is most concentrated and how do we prevent

5181
08:49:19,600 --> 08:49:25,940
from taking hold and growing. The task force that this resolution provides for enlist the expertise

5182
08:49:25,940 --> 08:49:31,580
and overall quality of the people that will be on it to do the work necessary to eliminate

5183
08:49:31,580 --> 08:49:36,800
the scourge and bring this county closer to the ideals we aspire to.

5184
08:49:39,210 --> 08:49:46,430
Thank you. Anyone else? Okay. All in favour of the resolution as amended signify by saying aye.

5185
08:49:46,430 --> 08:49:57,570
Those opposed, resolution passes unanimously, if that's it, we're going to put a, let's say meeting it to recess.

5186
08:49:58,710 --> 08:50:04,170
Obviously, it's a long month and in case there's something that requires us to come back before our next set of committees,

5187
08:50:05,210 --> 08:50:08,050
well, the flexibility to do that so I'm going to put a legislature in recess.