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» Tess. All right.

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>> Thank you, Sophie.

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>> Good evening, everybody. Our August 24,

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2026 meeting is called to order. We're

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going to begin the meeting with um

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prayer first and then we're going to

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recite the pledge together. Will we

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stand for prayer and pledge at this

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time?

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Let us pray. Oh dear God, we come before

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you once again thanking you for the

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opportunity to serve such a great

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community. God, it's my prayer and

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desire that individuals who live here

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will begin to see how special, how great

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of a community that this really is. I

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know many do, but I pray that even more

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so will. Lord God, I thank you that you

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would keep us safe again as we are

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looking at a calendar of of events, that

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those would be put on well, that they

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would be uh well attended, that people

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will enjoy themselves, take in

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everything that Nakatish has to offer.

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God, we also thank you for the meeting

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that's before us tonight. uh there are

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some agenda items. We pray that we uh

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will be willing and able to voice our

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opinions, but that we will do it in an

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orderly way. We will do it in a

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respectful way. Always reminded of what

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the scripture says. Whatever we do, let

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us do it decently and in order. So I

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pray that that's what we do on tonight.

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Thank you for keeping us, keeping our

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youth, and that we continue to make the

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city of Nakadesh a better place. It's in

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your son Jesus name we ask. Amen.

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>> Amen. And will you please join us in

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reciting the pledge of

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>> allegiance

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to the flag of the United States of

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America and to the republic for which it

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stands. One nation under God,

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indivisibley

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for all.

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>> All right. Awesome. Thank you all so

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much. Our next item on the agenda is the

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reading and approval of the minutes from

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our most recent meeting on August 10th.

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>> May I make a motion that we dispense

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with the reading of the minutes of

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August August 10th and that the minutes

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be adopted as recorded.

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Motion's made and seconded. Any comments

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or questions about this particular

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motion?

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>> All right. Seeing none, Mr. Stacy, roll

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call vote.

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>> Eli,

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>> yes. Nelson,

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>> Smith, Kirkindall,

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>> That motion carries.

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>> Before we move on, I just want to share

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some instructions that we share every

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meeting. The city council encourages

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um and appreciates it when citizens

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bring their issues of community concern

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wishing to address the council on any

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agenda item may do so at the time the

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agenda item is considered. Comments are

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limited to three minutes per speaker.

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numerous speakers on a particular item.

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audience should respect the rights of

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others and shall not create noise or

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other disturbances to disrupt or disturb

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persons who are addressing the city

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council. All persons addressing the city

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council shall speak in a civil and

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courteous manner. Speakers shall address

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speaking on and shall not be repetitive

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and we ask that you would adhere to

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those instructions. Also, we would ask

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if you take the moment now to go ahead

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and silence uh your cell phones uh so

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that we won't have any interruptions. We

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do have a special guest tonight. Uh we

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Harold Bayan, chairman of the Nacades

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Community Improvement Foundation. And uh

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we want Mr. Harab Bayan to uh uh to go

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to the podium and certainly start out by

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stating your first and last name and

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just share um what uh you're here for.

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Um we do know that um the Nagas

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Community Improvement Foundation uh

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certainly helped many of our youth out

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this summer and Mr. Harold's going to

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talk about that. Go ahead, Mr. Bay.

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>> Yes, I'm Harold Bayan,

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chairman of Nagash Community Improvement

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Foundation.

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I'm here in reference to our foundation

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and the mission and the work that we do.

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low housing development, recreations for

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youth, educations,

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grants, sponsorships, donations,

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and this year we tried to do every last

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give a shout out to the department heads

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for the city for all the work that you

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all do. We really appreciate it.

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outstanding for our steam summer

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program. Bring you back. Last year we

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did it at LP Von

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and it was and it was good. This year,

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the Nagas Parish School Board, we

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partnered with them and they gave us the

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Magnum School on East Fifth.

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flying and colding drones,

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arts and craft taught by Miss Judith

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Hayes. She's here tonight. We had

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on our advisory councils, Mr. Shields,

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he's here tonight. He spoke. They had

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math literature

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uh learning how to uh build businesses

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lunch. We had our cafeteria manager. We

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had the assistant. We had security.

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and they had a wonderful time and it was

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exciting to see them learn to play.

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and how well they done. But it could not

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without the volunteers, supporters,

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community volunteers and partners, the

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if you're here tonight for whatever

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reason, would you please stand? That

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Rosemary. Thank you all. I just WANT TO

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SO WE ADDED this year to move quickly

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summer swimming lessons

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along with the classes when it was over.

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ahead of time and set this up. We

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thought we could just go by time school

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was over and get the summer classes

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where Northwestern was full

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and the city was full.

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member, Mr. Blake and Mayor Ronnie

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Williams that stepped in

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allowed the lifeguards

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to teach our children summer swimming

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after the summer classes and the

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recreation swimming was over.

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children. Some couldn't duck their heads

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under the water. When they left, some of

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them were swimming on their back.

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Mayor Williams visited the swimming pool

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and we appreciate his initiative

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and his progressive idea to even be

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involved in this. Our motto is

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footprints in the community

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whenever you see that that's our

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intentional. We want to do more.

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is going to be our main state.

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council person and a member of the Niger

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Community Improvement Foundation to do

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something. I think she going to ask

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Mayor Williams to come forward.

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Mayor Williams, uh, on the behalf of the

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Natives Community Improvement Foundation

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is great for recognition for your

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outstanding service to our organization

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and would like to come up and take a

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>> Well, look, thank you all so much. I

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wasn't expecting that.

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wasn't expecting that. But I I'll say

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this, you know, um I know Harold worked

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directly with Blake and others, so I

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didn't necessarily have to be in the

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weeds in it, but that is important that,

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you know, students from the community, I

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guess residents from the community, I

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say like that or learning how to swim.

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we could try to get that extended so we

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could teach more. And uh that's really

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important. But then your program at um

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magnet is a it's a STEM program or

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it's just all positives. Um I know there

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uh piece on it. So maybe people could

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you'll get to see some of the video and

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the images of what what what some of the

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kids were able to do. So, um, NCIF, I

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know y'all giving me this, but I mean,

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this is really all y'all, um, and what

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you're doing in the community, and we

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certainly need organizations like the

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Nagish Community Improvements Foundation

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because the city, city government can't

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do it all. We can't do it by ourselves.

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organizations to um, and we'll be

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willing to partner what we need to. So,

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again, yeah, I know y'all giving me

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this, but but kudos to y'all is what I

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want to say. All right. Well, we

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certainly appreciate the partnership and

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I hope like you say this is a lasting

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>> That we will continue to do so. Anyone

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from CI want to take a picture? Mr.

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Shields. Anyone? Come on. Take a

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Mr. Bayan, before you, I just want to

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say I think that your um organization

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really did a really great job this

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summer. I did stop by the school and got

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an opportunity. I was invited by Miss

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Judith Hayes,

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uh Walters, and uh Miss Judith Hayes and

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got to see all the kids there. And

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you're right, it was a lot different

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from last year. A lot more uh

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involvement and and it was just great

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seeing so many kids over there. So, I

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just think you're doing a great job and

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continue to do so.

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>> All right.

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>> Thank you so much.

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>> Thank all of you.

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>> Appreciate that.

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>> All right. Thank all of you for what

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you're doing in the community. Okay. All

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right.

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Okay. So, next we've got our special

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guest. Um, next we've got Nacatish

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Historic District Commission appeal.

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Uh, applicant owner Henry Cook Taylor

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Junior and Deborah Lee Taylor. The

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purpose, the appeal of the decision by

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the Nagodish Historic Commission

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rendered July 28, 2026

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regarding the artwork artwork, excuse

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me, installed at

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123 St. Denise Street in Akatish,

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Louisiana. I think we already have an

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attorney representing um

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>> Good evening,

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>> Mr. Cook and Mrs. Taylor. And I believe

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city council you have a document from Mr. Glette as

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well. So Mr. Glette, state your first

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and last name and um get into your

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remarks.

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>> Yes, sir.

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>> Oh, and let me say this. I'm sorry. We

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are we do have the threeminut rule. Our

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clock is not functioning um like it

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should. So Mrs. Stac is going to be my clock for me today. Okay. All right.

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Go ahead, Mr. Glad.

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>> Yeah. Thank you, Mayor. Um, good evening

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everyone. My name is Chris Gillette. I

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grew up here. I'm a lawyer here. I've

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got an office on Second Street. Went to

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Nakad Central, graduated in 1987. And

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I'm here tonight representing Lee Cook

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LLC and also Mr. Cook and Miss Taylor,

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which owned the property at 123 Saint

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Den just right about a block away here.

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Mayor,

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in July of this year, the Taylor's uh

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commissioned an artist to

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install some artwork in Taylor Park on

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123 Saint Den. I think everyone's

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probably familiar with it. I do have

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some pictures I can pass out in a

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moment. The artwork says Nacades in

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large letters. Um, the historic

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commission determined that a permit

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would be required for this artwork. And

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so the historic commission uh set a set

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a meeting and summoned the property

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owners to respond.

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July 28th,

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the historic commission took the matter

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up. Uh they acknowledged during the

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meeting, the commission acknowledged

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during the meeting that there was

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another building, a mural at 860

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Washington. This is the Bank of

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Montgomery mural

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uh that had been in place since uh about

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2014 or so, the best that I know. Uh and

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that mural the bank had not applied for

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a permit, hadn't received a permit. The

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historic commission had not taken any

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action to find the owner or or ask that

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it be taken down.

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The commission ordered

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the tailor to remove the artwork at 123

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Saint Den within 60 days. Uh if they

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didn't then they would be fined $50 for

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each day thereafter that it wasn't

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removed.

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We filed an appeal and I I uh provided a

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copy I think to the council

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a few days later and the basis of the

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appeal there's several grounds but uh

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number one that uh the the commission

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and the city council can't selectively

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enforce the ordinances.

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I think we cite, you know, Louisiana

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Constitution Article 6, uh, section 17.

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It's got to be uniformly enforced.

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The bank's mural, uh, actually

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advertises the Bank of Montgomery. It's

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got a picture of a horse and buggy and

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some other things, and they didn't

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obtain a permit for that one either.

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Secondly,

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although it is in a landmark historic

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district, both the bank building and the

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Taylor's building are in the landmark

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district

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under the National Historic Preservation

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Act, murals and artworks not prohibited.

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I cited those statutes in the written

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appeal that I provided to you in the

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regulations.

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>> Mr. Glet, that's three minutes, but

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given that you're the attorney for the

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Mr. Cook and Taylor, do you need a

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little bit more time?

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>> I do. Another three. We'll give you

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another three. Give me another three.

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>> Appreciate that. Thank you.

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>> The uh the statute uh the federal

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statute does not prohibit artwork or

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murals. It only concerns the structures

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uh of the buildings themselves. That's

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the concern of the federal uh

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National Historic Preservation Act.

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Next, under the ordinance,

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the the artwork is not assigned for a

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number of reasons, but the main reason

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is is uh under I think it's 16.1-

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30 uh or 26. It doesn't advertise a

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product. It doesn't advertise a product,

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a business, or a commodity.

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Also, it's not clear that a permit's

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required at all, as we argued or stated

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in the letter, because permits are

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required in three instances. Number one,

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if you build a new structure, number

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two, if you paint an existing structure,

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or number three, if you alter or add to

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an existing structure.

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This artwork is a hardy board and it's

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attached with screws that can be removed

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and the artwork can be removed without

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damaging the structure itself, the

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building. So, it's not clear that a

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permit was required

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before the council tonight under the

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appeal statute. the council can reverse

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it can modify the existing order and so

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we ask respectfully that the council

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reverse the order of the commission on

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these grounds. Number one, that no

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permit appears to be required and also

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no selective enforcement of the

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ordinance really is permitted.

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I think that's about all mayor. I don't

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know if I have any more time, but if if

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I do, I'll be glad to answer any

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questions.

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>> Thank you, Mr. Klet. I appreciate that.

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>> Thank you, Lyn.

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>> Okay.

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>> Oh, I have a couple of things to

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introduce if I may. Uh I have the we uh

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did a public records request for the

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Bank of McGomery records to confirm that

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they didn't address that issue. Uh and

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in 2014,

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July the 7th, 2014, they first applied

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to the commission to paint the brick a

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uniform color. September the 7th of

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2014, they changed their mind, decided

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to use exposed brick. So that's what's

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in the public record for the mural at

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860 Washington.

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Uh last in in the letter, and I want the

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commission to have these pictures. The

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first three are just the nacadish

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artwork itself. I know you've seen that.

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Number four is the Bank of Montgomery

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mural, which is visible from Front

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Street. So, if you drive from Front

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Street towards Texas Street, you see it

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on your left, right by the Louisiana

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Sports Hall of Fame. We also point out

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in the letter that murals are very

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common now. Uh, it's probably not a

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legal issue, but I wanted to make that

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clear. And I have got pictures, about

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five or six pictures of all of the

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murals in downtown Rustin. Uh, and

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downtown Rustin is also a historic

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district. It's not a landmark district,

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but it is a historic district and

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includes a lot of murals.

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So, mayor, if I may and council, I'd

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like to just introduce into the record

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the request uh and the response to the

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um public records request and also

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pictures number 1 through 11.

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>> You you want the council you have enough

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of those for the council or just kind of

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want them to pass them around? Yeah,

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mayor. I I don't have any extra copies,

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but I'll just introduce those.

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>> Okay, I got you. I see what you say.

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Pass them around.

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>> Yes, sir.

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>> Okay. All right. Thank you, Mr. Gat. Is

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there anybody here from the historic

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district commission who would like to

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come at this time?

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» All right. Please state your first and

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last name, ma'am, and then whatever. I'm

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Marian Salter and I happen to be

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chairman um this year of the historic

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district commission and I'm here to

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answer any questions that you all might

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have. And I also would like to state

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that at each of our meetings every month

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we have applicants come before us and

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they have all different things that

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they're asking to do to their

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properties. Some are additions, some are

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demolitions, some are paint, some are

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roofs.

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There's all kinds of things. We take

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each application very seriously.

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We also form subcommittees to go out and

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meet with these individuals if they

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would like for us to. The committees

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come back and report to us and then a

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decision is made based on the guidelines

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set forth by the Department of the

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Interior and plus the city ordinances

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which are our laws. And we as a group of

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the historic district commission are

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volunteers that have been appointed by

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the mayor and voted upon by your city

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council. And we are charged with trying

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to interpret these rules as best that we

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can. And this is what we do to every

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individual that comes before us.

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I would like to say also that after the

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meeting on July the 28th, Mr. Taylor

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came up to me after the meeting and I

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hope you remember our little

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conversation that we had and he informed

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me that there was a committee that had

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been put together over a year ago to

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apparently put this knackadish sign

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together and that in January the

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committee fell apart

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and that he decided to carry this

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forward. My response to him was I said,

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"Henry, why did you not come to the

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historic district commission and ask us

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to be a part of this committee?" His

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response to me was, "We knew that you

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all would not allow it."

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And I take and I asked him, I said,

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"Well, I'm sorry you felt that way,

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but we would have come and tried to work

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together." And what a lot of people

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don't know is the fact that the historic

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district commission and some city

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employees have been trying to work

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trying to put together some ordinance

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concerning murals and artwork because

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this is becoming something that people

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wish to do but yet no one has even

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mentioned the fact that we are trying to

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do things behind the scenes.

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Now I am concerned that

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the way we interpret this painting, this

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artwork is a little different than maybe

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Mr. Glette has interpreted

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based on the ordinances that we have.

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We are charged with preserving

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structures and maintaining their

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integrity and also the dignity of the

553
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historic district that we are charged. I

554
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:27,039
think that's at the end of your three,

555
00:24:27,039 --> 00:24:28,640
but if you need a little bit more time,

556
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:30,159
know everybody understands. We allow a

557
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little bit more time for opening remarks

558
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>> and then we will strictly enforce three

559
00:24:33,919 --> 00:24:35,360
minutes thereafter. But I think it's

560
00:24:35,360 --> 00:24:37,279
fair to give opening remarks a little

561
00:24:37,279 --> 00:24:39,120
bit more time. Go ahead.

562
00:24:39,120 --> 00:24:41,679
>> Thank you. And we understand that murals

563
00:24:41,679 --> 00:24:44,559
are becoming a thing within communities

564
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and we want to work with people to try

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to do what is right and what is not

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right. But I also need to point out that

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our community is a very special

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00:24:54,159 --> 00:24:56,960
community that not many have. Rustin

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doesn't have it. Shreport doesn't have

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it. Any of these other places that have

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murals. We are the oldest town in the

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Louisiana Purchase. That's onethird of

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the United States. We are a national

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landmark district. and being established

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as a landmark district. The federal

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government through the Interior

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Department of the Interior states that

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we are charged with preserving not only

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for our local and our state but for the

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nation and we take all of what we do as

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the historic district commission very

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seriously.

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>> Thank you.

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00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:36,000
Mrs. Salter. All right. Um

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All right. We've heard from attorney

586
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Glette. We've heard from Miss Alter,

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Mrs. Alter from the Historic District

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Commission. City Council members,

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anything y'all have to say on this

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matter? Again, before us is the appeal

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um of the decision that was made uh to

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give 60 days and then start finding if

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it's still up, if this artwork is still

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on the side of the building. I just want

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to say I appreciate what the um historic

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commission does as being volunteers. Um

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so I just want to say make that point

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first and foremost that I don't want it

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to go unnoticed, unmentioned that you

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00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,240
all do a great work and trying to

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preserve what Nackage has as far as

602
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,240
being landmark areas here, landmark

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buildings and whatever here in Nacades.

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And just wanted to point that out to

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you.

606
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Okay.

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» Any other comments? City council.

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>> You want me to?

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>> Yeah.

610
00:26:41,360 --> 00:26:44,000
>> Okay. Um,

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00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:45,600
bear with me. I'm always, as my wife

612
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,000
say, can be very long- winded, so I'm

613
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,960
about to be a little long- winded. Uh,

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00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,760
first I I want to start by also thanking

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the members of the historic commission.

616
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They're, as Miss Betty said, they're

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100% volunteers who put their time and

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00:27:00,159 --> 00:27:02,240
effort in this historic district because

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they care about it. They care about

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00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:05,200
preserving and protecting it, and that's

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00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,080
why they put a lot of time into what

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00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:11,520
they do uh for nothing in return. Um,

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and I believe they were put in a very

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00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,520
difficult position here because I

625
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,360
believe and I believe they did the right

626
00:27:17,360 --> 00:27:19,440
thing by making a decision that allowed

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00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,559
this to ultimately come before us. um as

628
00:27:22,559 --> 00:27:24,480
cuz I'm I'm going to discuss when you

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really get in our ordinances and try to

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00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,760
apply them to murals, it's extremely

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00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:33,039
vague. Um in fact, they don't ex

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00:27:33,039 --> 00:27:35,440
specifically address murals at all. What

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00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,760
the commission had was something placed

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on a building without a permit and they

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00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:41,600
had to make the decision based on the

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00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,240
ordinance that we have. Um, I want to

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00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,520
make clear at the beginning cuz I don't

638
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,360
view what we're doing tonight as a city

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00:27:49,360 --> 00:27:51,760
council being against the historic

640
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,080
commission in in any way. Um, and if we

641
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:55,679
ultimately reach a different conclusion

642
00:27:55,679 --> 00:27:58,240
on part of their decision, that doesn't

643
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:00,720
mean they did anything wrong. Uh, none

644
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,039
of us sitting up here created the

645
00:28:03,039 --> 00:28:05,279
ordinance that's before us. This was I

646
00:28:05,279 --> 00:28:07,039
don't know when it was created. In fact,

647
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no idea.

648
00:28:08,399 --> 00:28:08,960
>> Long time

649
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:10,240
>> in the 70s maybe. I'm not sure.

650
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:10,960
Obviously,

651
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,080
>> uh we inherited it, but we up here are

652
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,880
the legislative body now responsible for

653
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:18,960
it. And uh when we find that an

654
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,760
ordinance is vague or incomplete or

655
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:23,679
doesn't adequately address something,

656
00:28:23,679 --> 00:28:26,799
it's our responsibility to clarify it uh

657
00:28:26,799 --> 00:28:29,440
to interpret it or appropriate or to

658
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:33,279
change it. And um our ordinance also

659
00:28:33,279 --> 00:28:35,520
gives us a very specific responsibility

660
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,440
when a decision by the commission is

661
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:41,840
appealed to us. as Miss Marian stated

662
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:46,000
uh I'm sorry what Mr. Glette stated uh

663
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,720
that it says the council and I quote

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shall have the right to reverse change

665
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or modify any decision of the historic

666
00:28:53,919 --> 00:28:55,919
commission. The commission made its

667
00:28:55,919 --> 00:28:57,919
decision. the tailor's appealed it and

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00:28:57,919 --> 00:28:59,520
it's our responsibility to look at the

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00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:00,960
ordinance, look at the standards that

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00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,440
our ordinance tells us to follow and uh

671
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,760
make our our own decision based on how

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00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,399
we the legislative body interpret uh

673
00:29:08,399 --> 00:29:10,320
this vagueness from our ordinances. And

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00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,720
that's what I I've tried to do and the

675
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:16,159
first question I asked is what is this

676
00:29:16,159 --> 00:29:19,120
right? Because there's there's questions

677
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,760
about a sign, a mural, what is it? And

678
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,000
to me it's to me it's a mural. It's

679
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,320
artwork is what it is. I don't believe

680
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,240
it's a sign under the definition comp

681
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:29,440
contained in our ordinance. Our

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00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,760
ordinance defines a sign as including

683
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symbols and similar displays like Mr.

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00:29:34,559 --> 00:29:36,559
Gillette stated and I quote used for

685
00:29:36,559 --> 00:29:38,720
advertising purposes such as those to

686
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,760
designate an individual firm etc. Um

687
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,159
that's not what this is. It's doesn't

688
00:29:44,159 --> 00:29:45,600
advertise any business. It's not

689
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,600
advertising a product or service or a

690
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,000
profession etc. It's just artwork

691
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:51,760
depicting nadition scenes of our

692
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,559
community. Um, so I don't believe the

693
00:29:54,559 --> 00:29:56,960
provisions that regulate signs apply to

694
00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:00,640
this mural. So then what do we look at

695
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,200
in our ordinances? And uh, because when

696
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,919
you move away from the sign provisions

697
00:30:05,919 --> 00:30:08,320
and look at what does require a permit,

698
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,960
our ordinance requires a permit for any

699
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:14,240
alteration or addition to an existing

700
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:18,000
structure. Um, that's where I I do

701
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:19,520
slightly disagree with Mr. Glette where

702
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,520
he said it didn't he doesn't believe it

703
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,279
even maybe required a permit. I I think

704
00:30:23,279 --> 00:30:26,000
it's an addition to an structure. Um it

705
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,640
is added to the structure. Um even

706
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:30,960
though it can be removed.

707
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:32,080
I believe it's an addition or

708
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:33,679
alteration. So I want to be very clear

709
00:30:33,679 --> 00:30:35,520
about this. I do I believe the Taylor

710
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:36,960
should have applied for a permit when

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00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,200
they when they put it up and one wasn't

712
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,520
applied. Uh I don't think there's any

713
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:45,600
question about that. But there are two

714
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:47,679
different questions. The first is should

715
00:30:47,679 --> 00:30:49,440
they obtain a permit for installing it?

716
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,760
I think yes. The second is if they

717
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:53,760
applied for a permit, what standards

718
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:57,039
then do we use to determine whether this

719
00:30:57,039 --> 00:30:59,520
should have been allowed and approved?

720
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,039
Uh our ordinance, like I said, doesn't

721
00:31:01,039 --> 00:31:02,880
give us any specific mural standards at

722
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,120
all. Instead, our ordinance says that

723
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,200
the historic district commission, and I

724
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,960
quote, shall follow the guidelines

725
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:12,640
established by the United States

726
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:16,000
Department of the Interior. Okay. So, I

727
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,559
contacted the Department of Interior.

728
00:31:18,559 --> 00:31:19,760
What are y'all's guidelines? I went

729
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:20,960
through a lot of people and I got to

730
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,360
their Atlanta office. Uh, spoke with an

731
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,039
individual there concerning historic

732
00:31:25,039 --> 00:31:26,720
landmark districts and specifically

733
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,679
inquired about murals. I was informed

734
00:31:29,679 --> 00:31:32,000
that they don't regulate or prohibit

735
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:35,440
murals of any kind. Um, I was also told

736
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,200
that murals themselves generally have

737
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,600
very little to no effect on historic

738
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,640
designation. What matters more from the

739
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,200
historic preservation their standpoint

740
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,600
is the destruction, loss or severe

741
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,559
alteration of historic buildings and

742
00:31:50,559 --> 00:31:52,320
historic materials that give those

743
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,919
buildings their historic significance.

744
00:31:55,919 --> 00:32:00,080
Um and in fact what they specifically

745
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,159
what they said is

746
00:32:02,159 --> 00:32:04,240
if you have a hundred in your district

747
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:07,360
if you have a hundred historic buildings

748
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,559
if due to loss destruction if you got 10

749
00:32:10,559 --> 00:32:12,240
you should be worried about your

750
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,000
designation. That's kind of they're just

751
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,720
worried about losing buildings. I they

752
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:18,960
directed me to the Secretary of State's

753
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,519
standards for rehabilitation which is

754
00:32:21,519 --> 00:32:26,480
codified in 36 CFR part 67. I have a a

755
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:27,840
copy of them right here if anyone wants

756
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:29,919
to look at them. And when you actually

757
00:32:29,919 --> 00:32:32,320
read those standards, their purpose is

758
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:33,840
pretty straightforward. They say they're

759
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:35,600
intended to preserve the historic

760
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:37,840
significance of a property by protecting

761
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,080
the historic materials and features that

762
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,000
make that property significant. And

763
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,799
there's standard nine which is relevant

764
00:32:44,799 --> 00:32:47,840
here. Um, and it addresses exterior

765
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:49,919
alterations

766
00:32:49,919 --> 00:32:53,200
and um, it says uh, it says that an

767
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,519
exterior alteration should not destroy

768
00:32:55,519 --> 00:32:57,919
historic materials that characterize the

769
00:32:57,919 --> 00:33:01,039
property. Um, I don't think the mural

770
00:33:01,039 --> 00:33:03,679
does that. It says the new work should

771
00:33:03,679 --> 00:33:06,799
be differentiated from the old. I think

772
00:33:06,799 --> 00:33:08,240
it clearly is. I don't think anyone's

773
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:09,679
going to look at this mural and think it

774
00:33:09,679 --> 00:33:11,919
was part of the original historic

775
00:33:11,919 --> 00:33:15,200
building when it was built. Um it also

776
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,480
says standard 10 says uh that new

777
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,240
additions

778
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,640
um should be done in a way that protects

779
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,039
the essential form and integrity of the

780
00:33:25,039 --> 00:33:27,440
historic property and if removed in the

781
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,640
future wouldn't destroy it. Wow. I mean

782
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:36,080
it it wouldn't uh I would I would say um

783
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,240
again I think that's important here.

784
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:39,760
This mural is attached in a way it can

785
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,080
be removed. somebody takes it down five

786
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:43,840
years from now, 10 from now, 50 from

787
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,559
now, the essential form and integrity of

788
00:33:46,559 --> 00:33:49,440
the building still remains. So, after

789
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,120
looking at those actual standards that

790
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:52,799
our ordinance tells us to follow, I

791
00:33:52,799 --> 00:33:54,799
simply can't find anything that says a

792
00:33:54,799 --> 00:33:58,399
mural is prohibited. Uh, and murals in

793
00:33:58,399 --> 00:33:59,760
historic districts are certainly not

794
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,559
unusual, has been stated. When I spoke

795
00:34:02,559 --> 00:34:03,840
with the Department of the Interior,

796
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,000
they they gave me a couple examples.

797
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,079
Charleston, South Carolina and Savannah,

798
00:34:08,079 --> 00:34:10,879
Georgia was mentioned as examples of

799
00:34:10,879 --> 00:34:13,679
landmark districts um where murals exist

800
00:34:13,679 --> 00:34:15,679
and they they guided me to their they

801
00:34:15,679 --> 00:34:18,879
said they have great uh mural guidelines

802
00:34:18,879 --> 00:34:21,520
that they have in their ordinances. Uh

803
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:27,200
and so it's something for us to look towards. Okay.

804
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:28,639
Uh I then started looking at other

805
00:34:28,639 --> 00:34:30,159
historic districts around the country.

806
00:34:30,159 --> 00:34:31,760
There's plenty of communities that allow

807
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:33,679
them. There's an in Alabama for

808
00:34:33,679 --> 00:34:35,520
instance. I have this whole packet is

809
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,440
our mural guidelines for their landmark

810
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:41,599
district and it's in it's extensive.

811
00:34:41,599 --> 00:34:46,399
Uh there's um uh Lancaster, New York,

812
00:34:46,399 --> 00:34:48,159
much smaller guidelines, but they also

813
00:34:48,159 --> 00:34:49,839
have guidelines that we can we can look

814
00:34:49,839 --> 00:34:51,760
through and and go off of. We don't need

815
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:53,119
to reinvent the wheel here is what I'm

816
00:34:53,119 --> 00:34:54,480
saying. If it works for their landmark

817
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,639
districts and has for so many years, why

818
00:34:56,639 --> 00:34:58,880
wouldn't it work here? Um, they regulate

819
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:00,960
things like location,

820
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,359
um, protection of historic materials,

821
00:35:03,359 --> 00:35:05,440
attachment methods, and other

822
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,599
preservation concerns. They even provide

823
00:35:07,599 --> 00:35:08,880
pictures and examples in their

824
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:12,880
ordinances that really help out. Um,

825
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,040
some places regulate size, some places

826
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:16,720
regulate what side of a building it can

827
00:35:16,720 --> 00:35:18,640
be on, some protect historic brick and

828
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,560
masonry, some prevent murals from

829
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:21,920
covering important architectural

830
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:25,440
features. Um, some say they can't face

831
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,520
streets at all, which actually this one

832
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,440
in particular doesn't even face doesn't

833
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,000
face a street. Um,

834
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:33,839
so I I absolutely believe we need to

835
00:35:33,839 --> 00:35:35,359
address murals in our ordinances going

836
00:35:35,359 --> 00:35:41,040
forward. We have an ordinance later on our agenda uh which is a moratorum to

837
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:45,280
put a six-month moratorum on any future

838
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,200
um applications so we can amend our

839
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,440
ordinances. Um, however, this one has

840
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:50,800
been applied under our current

841
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,920
ordinances. So it wouldn't be a wouldn't

842
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:57,760
uh go through on the moratorum. Um if we

843
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,400
want to restrict their size,

844
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:01,839
>> let's establish that restriction. That's

845
00:36:01,839 --> 00:36:03,119
for the council. If we want to regulate

846
00:36:03,119 --> 00:36:04,800
where they can be located, we can do

847
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:08,240
that. If we want to protect how they're

848
00:36:08,240 --> 00:36:10,400
put up on the wall, we can do that. If

849
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:16,160
we want to specify rules of uh um

850
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:17,839
whatever we want to do as a commission,

851
00:36:17,839 --> 00:36:19,680
as a council, then everyone knows what

852
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:21,839
the rules are. property owners know, the

853
00:36:21,839 --> 00:36:24,160
historic commission knows, and if it's

854
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,000
appealed, we know what the rules are.

855
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,560
But those specific regulations don't

856
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:30,880
exist in our ordinance today. With all

857
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:32,960
that said, um the historic district

858
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:34,320
commission, I think, has already

859
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,720
considered this particular mural. Even

860
00:36:36,720 --> 00:36:38,640
though a permit

861
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,599
um application was not formally filed

862
00:36:41,599 --> 00:36:44,480
beforehand, this particular mural

863
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,520
nevertheless came before the commission.

864
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,640
considered it um heard

865
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:53,280
all the facts and made a decision

866
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:57,440
concerning it. Um the the motion that

867
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:00,560
was made by the commission and I quote I

868
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,520
have the exact motion. Uh motion is that

869
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:05,680
the tailor be asked to remove the sign

870
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:07,839
within 60 days. If the sign is not

871
00:37:07,839 --> 00:37:10,320
removed within 60 days that they be

872
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,480
fined the minimum amount authorized by

873
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,560
the code of $50 per day until it's

874
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:16,720
removed. the sign is not removed within

875
00:37:16,720 --> 00:37:18,480
60 days that the city attorney take

876
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:20,240
action to have it removed through the

877
00:37:20,240 --> 00:37:22,000
judicial system and then it was seconded

878
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,560
and voted on. Uh and that's that's was

879
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:26,560
before us now is that motion. So again,

880
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,599
our ordinance expressly states that this

881
00:37:29,599 --> 00:37:30,800
council should have the right to

882
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,119
reverse, change, or modify any decision

883
00:37:33,119 --> 00:37:34,880
of the historic commission. So I don't

884
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:36,240
believe our only options tonight are

885
00:37:36,240 --> 00:37:39,200
either to affirm their decision or send

886
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,839
these people back at the whole beginning

887
00:37:41,839 --> 00:37:44,800
of the process. We've seen the mural. We

888
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:46,640
all know what it looks like. We've been

889
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:48,400
there.

890
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,160
We know where it is. We know it's how

891
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:51,920
it's attached. The historic commission

892
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:53,359
has considered it. They made their

893
00:37:53,359 --> 00:37:55,440
decision. The tailor have appealed it.

894
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,040
Both sides have had the opportunity to

895
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,520
be heard. And now the ordinance gives us

896
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:00,640
the responsibility to make that

897
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:03,200
decision. I don't see the benefit of

898
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:04,640
telling the tailor, "Go file an

899
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:06,880
application for this exact same mural.

900
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:08,640
go back before the commission again,

901
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,560
have another hearing, get another

902
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,720
decision, and if you disagree with that

903
00:38:12,720 --> 00:38:14,640
decision, come back here. We're going to

904
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:16,480
do this all over again. We're already

905
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,800
here. It's already been adjudicated.

906
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,359
Um, and again, I want to make something

907
00:38:21,359 --> 00:38:23,920
very clear. I'm not saying that they

908
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:25,280
were right to put this mural up without

909
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,359
obtaining a permit. Uh, they should have

910
00:38:27,359 --> 00:38:29,280
gotten a permit. There's other things

911
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,520
out there, not just what's been

912
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:33,119
discussed tonight. There's other things

913
00:38:33,119 --> 00:38:34,480
out there in the historic district that

914
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,119
haven't gotten permits. um they should

915
00:38:37,119 --> 00:38:39,839
get permits. So, we're not here, we

916
00:38:39,839 --> 00:38:44,960
don't police that, you know, that's not what we do is um but there's

917
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:46,400
a process that they should go through

918
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,040
and if it gets

919
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:50,320
maybe some things need to come before

920
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:53,359
us. That's all I'm going to say. Um

921
00:38:53,359 --> 00:38:55,040
nothing I'm proposing tonight should be

922
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:56,880
interpreted to mean that somebody can

923
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,280
leave here, go put a mural on some or

924
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,040
alter some other building, historic

925
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:02,320
district, and then come ask for

926
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:04,640
forgiveness. In fact, I believe there

927
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:06,240
should be a consequence for failing to

928
00:39:06,240 --> 00:39:08,480
follow the permitting process. And

929
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,240
that's one portion of the commission's

930
00:39:10,240 --> 00:39:13,920
decision that maybe some council members

931
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,240
may we might want to discuss to modify,

932
00:39:16,240 --> 00:39:17,680
but that's separate from the question of

933
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:20,000
whether the mural should be removed.

934
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,000
Failing to obtain the permit beforehand

935
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:23,280
doesn't necessarily mean that an

936
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:26,960
alteration that otherwise satisfies the

937
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:28,560
standards

938
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,280
were required to apply must be torn

939
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:32,720
down.

940
00:39:32,720 --> 00:39:34,560
Um, and based on the ordinance exists

941
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:35,680
today, based on the Department of

942
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:37,760
Interior standards and our ordinance

943
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:39,920
specifically directs us to follow, based

944
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:41,520
upon the facts concerning this

945
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:43,680
particular mural, I do not find

946
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:45,440
substantive basis under our current

947
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,119
ordinance requiring this mural to be

948
00:39:47,119 --> 00:39:50,560
removed. Um,

949
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:52,320
the ordinance itself provides for the

950
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,880
appeal and the fact it expressly gives

951
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:56,320
us the authority to reverse, change or

952
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,079
modify means there will be occasion when

953
00:39:58,079 --> 00:39:59,359
this council reaches a different

954
00:39:59,359 --> 00:40:01,440
conclusion. us while the appeal process

955
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,480
is there. Yet again, uh that isn't the

956
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:06,079
council against the commission. I

957
00:40:06,079 --> 00:40:07,200
believe the real problem here is that

958
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,280
our ordinance has not kept up with the

959
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:12,720
issue, has been very vague, and now it's

960
00:40:12,720 --> 00:40:15,040
in front of us for the first time. And

961
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:16,960
yet again, that's our responsibility and

962
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:22,000
that's our responsibility to fix it. Um

963
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:25,109
so

964
00:40:25,119 --> 00:40:26,560
are we ready to make a motion? Do you

965
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:27,680
want to talk?

966
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:29,680
>> Make a motion. I think we need to talk.

967
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:31,359
>> Okay,

968
00:40:31,359 --> 00:40:32,480
>> let's talk.

969
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:37,680
>> I would just like to echo that um

970
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:41,839
when this blew up, I happened to be over

971
00:40:41,839 --> 00:40:45,839
in Texas at Lake of the Pines.

972
00:40:45,839 --> 00:40:48,640
And the the next morning, I got several

973
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:51,200
phone calls that day. Next morning went

974
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:56,319
over to Jefferson, Texas and went to eat

975
00:40:56,319 --> 00:41:01,520
at Annie's Steamboat Cafe and walked

976
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:03,520
around the building, the first thing I

977
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:07,280
see is a big huge river steamboat u on

978
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:08,960
the side of the building and it's

979
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:12,800
gorgeous. I love uh murals, but on the

980
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:14,640
front of the building there's a historic

981
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:17,839
landmark plaque. So, you know, right off

982
00:41:17,839 --> 00:41:21,200
the bat, um, it and I found that later

983
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:23,920
on there's three or four murals in their

984
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,560
town. They all fit the historic

985
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:29,119
ambiance, if you will, of the thing. So,

986
00:41:29,119 --> 00:41:32,720
it didn't didn't bother me. But in when

987
00:41:32,720 --> 00:41:36,880
I got back, um, happened to go by, got a

988
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:40,079
burger from Stony's at Tasty Boy. And

989
00:41:40,079 --> 00:41:41,760
while I was there, four people,

990
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,560
different groups came in in the 12m

991
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:46,240
minute time I was there to take a

992
00:41:46,240 --> 00:41:48,000
picture of the mural before we made them

993
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:53,119
take it down. So, uh, just a pop popular

994
00:41:53,119 --> 00:41:55,520
appeal. Uh, I don't think there's

995
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:57,920
anybody that dislikes the content of the

996
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:00,560
mural. However, we got two issues going

997
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,280
on that Councilman Harrington

998
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:06,880
um very eloquently went over. Uh we've

999
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:09,520
got an out ofdate ordinance which

1000
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,480
appears to keep surfacing in our

1001
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:15,599
planning and zoning. Um a lot of them

1002
00:42:15,599 --> 00:42:18,240
are old and they need to be redone. And

1003
00:42:18,240 --> 00:42:20,319
I think maybe next year we can look at

1004
00:42:20,319 --> 00:42:23,520
that and try to catch up on a lot of

1005
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:27,119
these. But some of us on this council

1006
00:42:27,119 --> 00:42:30,319
have served on commissions where an

1007
00:42:30,319 --> 00:42:33,200
issue gets out of hand and you really

1008
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:34,960
get your ears pinned back and you're

1009
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,839
doing it and they add another zero to

1010
00:42:37,839 --> 00:42:40,640
the amount you get in your paycheck. Um

1011
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:43,359
it's not it a lot of times it it can be

1012
00:42:43,359 --> 00:42:46,720
very thankless. Um, but it's an

1013
00:42:46,720 --> 00:42:50,480
important job and

1014
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:52,960
you know

1015
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,200
it's got to be we've got to take care of

1016
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:58,400
our historic landmark district. The

1017
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:01,760
second issue is not getting a permit and

1018
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,960
it's imperative that we follow our

1019
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:08,319
permitting process especially in the

1020
00:43:08,319 --> 00:43:11,200
landmark district. The commission is

1021
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:14,160
tasked with upholding the integrity of

1022
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:17,520
the district and that at times is so

1023
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:20,319
misunderstood by the general public.

1024
00:43:20,319 --> 00:43:23,280
They have no idea what that entails with

1025
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:26,000
zero lot lines, almost no off- streetet

1026
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,480
parking and buildings that are well over

1027
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:31,839
a hundred years old. It's a special task

1028
00:43:31,839 --> 00:43:34,880
to maintain that status while you're

1029
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:36,800
trying to integrate it with the rest of

1030
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:39,920
the city. And I commend each and every

1031
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:41,680
commissioner that's on that commission

1032
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:43,839
for serving because it's a it's a very

1033
00:43:43,839 --> 00:43:47,680
tough job, but it's very important and

1034
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:50,720
to do things without a permit each and

1035
00:43:50,720 --> 00:43:53,440
every time we do that. Are there some

1036
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:56,480
that slip through the cracks? Absolutely

1037
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,520
there are. But each and every one can

1038
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:02,560
have an adverse effect on the entire

1039
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,040
district. So, we've got to uphold it.

1040
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:08,000
That commission is extremely important

1041
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:11,200
to us. I grew up in New Orleans. One of

1042
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:14,079
the things that I fell in love with in

1043
00:44:14,079 --> 00:44:15,760
Nacadesh

1044
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,480
was the landmark district, which wasn't

1045
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:21,280
designated yet, but I got to watch it

1046
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:24,000
grow after it became a landmark

1047
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,160
district. It opened up the door to

1048
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:29,839
facade grants to and people began buying

1049
00:44:29,839 --> 00:44:32,400
property, investing in it, and you had

1050
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:35,200
the downtown that you have today. And if

1051
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:36,960
you didn't have that commission back in

1052
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:41,119
that, it wouldn't be that way. And so

1053
00:44:41,119 --> 00:44:44,000
for that reason, I think not getting a

1054
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:49,760
permit is more bothersome to me than

1055
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,640
um whether we allow murals or we don't.

1056
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:56,800
As Councilman Harrington stated, um,

1057
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,040
we'll have a chance to address that.

1058
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:01,920
Hopefully, we'll pass that as a body to

1059
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,720
do the moratorum on murals and be able

1060
00:45:04,720 --> 00:45:06,160
to come back and visit that

1061
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:12,240
intelligently, have public forums and invite the public to be involved and

1062
00:45:12,240 --> 00:45:14,720
consider how we're going to do that. But

1063
00:45:14,720 --> 00:45:19,599
uh I am very much uh I think we figured

1064
00:45:19,599 --> 00:45:23,760
the the fine from when it was put up or

1065
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:26,000
from the meeting to now would be

1066
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:32,160
approximately 1350. That would be my u

1067
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:36,640
recommendation to leave the sign up, pay

1068
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:39,119
the fine of 1350

1069
00:45:39,119 --> 00:45:43,760
or remove the sign and no fine.

1070
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:45,280
Well, I tell you I just want to say

1071
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:48,480
this. I have as I said earlier and I

1072
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:50,480
agree with everything uh Councilman

1073
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:53,119
Harrington and Councilman Nielson has

1074
00:45:53,119 --> 00:45:55,040
said. I think most of us here agree with

1075
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:58,319
the fact that the

1076
00:45:58,319 --> 00:46:02,319
sign was put up without a permit.

1077
00:46:02,319 --> 00:46:04,240
You know, there are rules and

1078
00:46:04,240 --> 00:46:06,000
regulations that have to be followed

1079
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:08,160
that should have been followed. So, my

1080
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:11,280
main concern was the fact that it was

1081
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,040
put up without a permit. I have no

1082
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:15,200
objection to the mural itself. It's I

1083
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:17,760
think it's beautiful. I love it. I've

1084
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,160
traveled so many places and I've seen

1085
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:22,800
murals. Um just recently came from

1086
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:28,319
Monroe and in their downtown area there are murals all over over in

1087
00:46:28,319 --> 00:46:31,760
Nacadocious Texas murals. Lufkin, Texas

1088
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:39,280
as Dell said, Jefferson, Texas. This is the thing now. People have a way

1089
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,200
of trying to express themselves through

1090
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:42,480
painting.

1091
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:45,200
and and I I think it's nice. I think it

1092
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:49,599
adds to the area and I agree that a fine

1093
00:46:49,599 --> 00:46:54,790
should be in place and

1094
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:58,240
leave the mirror up. But um I think

1095
00:46:58,240 --> 00:47:00,160
penalty needs to be in place. I put it

1096
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:04,160
that way for not abiding by the permit

1097
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:08,870
that's been should have been done.

1098
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:09,359
Council

1099
00:47:09,359 --> 00:47:13,750
>> washi any comments?

1100
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:15,920
Oh, no.

1101
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,000
I don't have anything. Okay.

1102
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:19,599
>> I like the burgers though.

1103
00:47:19,599 --> 00:47:20,319
>> I'm just

1104
00:47:20,319 --> 00:47:22,160
>> You like burgers?

1105
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:23,760
>> She talking about tasty boy.

1106
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:26,800
>> Tasty boy.

1107
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:27,680
>> Councilman PT.

1108
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:30,319
>> I'm just a bit concerned. Uh you had the

1109
00:47:30,319 --> 00:47:32,160
fellow Mr. Gileia. He had mentioned

1110
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:33,920
about the Bank of Montgomery with them

1111
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:37,760
having their artwork and I just it's

1112
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:39,440
kind of difficult because if we're going

1113
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:41,839
to find you know them for their piece

1114
00:47:41,839 --> 00:47:43,920
then how do we remedy that?

1115
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:44,720
>> That's true.

1116
00:47:44,720 --> 00:47:46,319
>> Uh

1117
00:47:46,319 --> 00:47:48,240
I like the artwork. I I figured it

1118
00:47:48,240 --> 00:47:50,000
probably would make it to us. But

1119
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:51,760
>> I think at this point we just kind of

1120
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:54,240
dealing with an outdated ordinance and

1121
00:47:54,240 --> 00:47:56,880
so maybe we put a hold, you know, until

1122
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,599
we get that situated. But

1123
00:47:59,599 --> 00:48:01,760
>> I don't think that we get them to tear

1124
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:03,760
it down or move it. I think we just kind

1125
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:06,640
of like move forward from here.

1126
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:08,800
>> And I don't I don't think it's fair if

1127
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:12,160
we try to find

1128
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:14,480
>> I don't I don't know about that. I I say

1129
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:16,960
that because I don't know when did he

1130
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:18,560
ever say when the Bank of Montgomery was

1131
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:20,800
put up? What year was that?

1132
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:26,069
>> 2014.

1133
00:48:26,079 --> 00:48:28,079
» Yeah. And then I just say I say a fine

1134
00:48:28,079 --> 00:48:31,920
and I'm not I'm not I'm opposed to a

1135
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,160
fine of$350

1136
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:37,440
but I just feel that if something is not

1137
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:38,960
you know you you're going to have people

1138
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:40,400
coming just putting up something but I

1139
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:41,280
don't have to I'm not going to get

1140
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:43,119
penalized for it. I can put it up. I'm

1141
00:48:43,119 --> 00:48:45,680
not there's no repercussion.

1142
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:47,680
>> So something I think needs to be in

1143
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:50,240
place. If not a fine something needs if

1144
00:48:50,240 --> 00:48:52,480
not that big of a fine. Something needs

1145
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:54,880
to be in place.

1146
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:59,599
I I see both I see both sides of it. Uh

1147
00:48:59,599 --> 00:49:02,640
I see a side of of doing a fine and and

1148
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:05,920
our ordinances say a minimum of $50 a

1149
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:09,440
day. Uh but it doesn't necessarily state

1150
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:10,800
when that day begins.

1151
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:11,760
>> No.

1152
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:13,520
>> Um

1153
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:17,520
>> up to $100 a day. Um, but

1154
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:20,559
because I see I see the side

1155
00:49:20,559 --> 00:49:24,240
for the fine because if we don't then

1156
00:49:24,240 --> 00:49:26,319
there's nothing to to stop anyone from

1157
00:49:26,319 --> 00:49:27,599
just putting anything up without a

1158
00:49:27,599 --> 00:49:29,680
permit and being like sure I'll get one

1159
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:32,160
later, whatever. Because there's no

1160
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:33,520
negative recourse to them. There's

1161
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:36,720
nothing there's no you know if we have a

1162
00:49:36,720 --> 00:49:39,280
fine now might keep people from doing

1163
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:42,000
so. But I I see this point.

1164
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:43,280
>> Mhm. I do too.

1165
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:44,640
>> That there's others. Why haven't they

1166
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:46,800
been fined? Uh, how can you find one and

1167
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:50,950
out the other?

1168
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:53,680
» What if you donated the fine to the

1169
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:56,480
historic district through Main Street

1170
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:59,280
and it went back to improvements in the

1171
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:01,200
historic district?

1172
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:04,640
>> I.e. maybe the signs that say Tasty Boy

1173
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:05,920
that way.

1174
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:07,359
>> Well, all those signs are outdated.

1175
00:50:07,359 --> 00:50:07,599
Yeah,

1176
00:50:07,599 --> 00:50:08,640
>> they're all outdated.

1177
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:09,760
>> Yeah, there's businesses that aren't

1178
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:11,359
there anymore. There's Yeah. And maybe

1179
00:50:11,359 --> 00:50:14,160
the Bank of Montgomery would graciously

1180
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:16,079
give a donation to the historic

1181
00:50:16,079 --> 00:50:17,680
district.

1182
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:20,079
>> They might do that.

1183
00:50:20,079 --> 00:50:20,640
>> Yep.

1184
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:22,720
>> Great idea. If anybody here from Bank of

1185
00:50:22,720 --> 00:50:25,760
Montgomery listening, Great idea.

1186
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:28,079
>> All right. You got something else,

1187
00:50:28,079 --> 00:50:31,349
Eddie?

1188
00:50:31,359 --> 00:50:32,640
» I don't know.

1189
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:34,480
>> Okay. All right. At this time, we do

1190
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:37,760
want to allow We've heard from attorney

1191
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:39,839
representing the Taylor. We've heard

1192
00:50:39,839 --> 00:50:41,760
from member of the historic district

1193
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:43,680
commission, city council, and we've

1194
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:45,440
given them latitude to go beyond of

1195
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:47,119
course the 3 minutes, but we are going

1196
00:50:47,119 --> 00:50:48,640
to in the interest of time, we are going

1197
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:51,920
to have to strictly enforce

1198
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:54,880
um the 3 minutes at this point. Um just

1199
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:58,640
to just as a reminder, we certainly

1200
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:01,520
don't want to be repetitive. Um so if a

1201
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:04,079
comment has already been made, you know,

1202
00:51:04,079 --> 00:51:06,079
hey, just

1203
00:51:06,079 --> 00:51:08,880
you can let that be.

1204
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:10,800
um that we it's already in the record if

1205
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:12,559
you will. So, we do want to allow some

1206
00:51:12,559 --> 00:51:14,559
time and again Mrs. Stacy is going to be

1207
00:51:14,559 --> 00:51:16,720
my time keeper hand goes up that lets us

1208
00:51:16,720 --> 00:51:19,040
know the 3 minutes has expired. So, if

1209
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:22,000
there's anything anybody uh does want to

1210
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:24,000
say at this point, we don't have a

1211
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:26,240
motion yet, but I kind of see where it's

1212
00:51:26,240 --> 00:51:29,520
going. So, um, but we do want to allow

1213
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:30,960
individuals who may want to speak and

1214
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:33,359
then when you get to the microphone,

1215
00:51:33,359 --> 00:51:34,880
please state your first and last name

1216
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:36,400
and then you can get into your remarks

1217
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:37,920
and your three minutes will start at the

1218
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:40,559
time um when when your name is uh called

1219
00:51:40,559 --> 00:51:48,150
out. Yes, ma'am.

1220
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:51,200
» Hi, I'm Elizabeth Eers. Um, I do a lot

1221
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:53,359
of the Facebook stuff. I don't do

1222
00:51:53,359 --> 00:51:56,079
anything else, just Facebook. and I am a

1223
00:51:56,079 --> 00:51:58,960
part of a lot of the groups in there and

1224
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:01,920
I didn't start a lot of it. I did start

1225
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:03,760
a lot of it but not the polls and

1226
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:07,200
everything. Um, on the online polls

1227
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:10,480
right now we are at 357

1228
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:12,079
signatures and that was just a couple of

1229
00:52:12,079 --> 00:52:14,480
days ago. I haven't checked it recently

1230
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:17,040
and I want to say in one of the groups

1231
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:18,880
there was

1232
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:20,800
like a like a poll or something. and it

1233
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:22,880
was in the thousands that was in

1234
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:26,720
Nacadesh to keep it up and then on Saint

1235
00:52:26,720 --> 00:52:28,400
Deny we've had people coming in from

1236
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:31,680
Delaware, Austin, everywhere to keep it.

1237
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:34,240
I understand a fine needs to be in place

1238
00:52:34,240 --> 00:52:37,839
but we also do a bunch of community work

1239
00:52:37,839 --> 00:52:41,680
too. So maybe instead of a fine we do

1240
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:43,760
community work. You know there's some

1241
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:46,640
compromises we can make here but the

1242
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:48,559
community does love it. I have the

1243
00:52:48,559 --> 00:52:50,400
petitions

1244
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:52,319
and the pictures and everything on

1245
00:52:52,319 --> 00:52:53,599
Facebook if y'all need anything. I'm

1246
00:52:53,599 --> 00:52:56,870
really nervous,

1247
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:59,359
but that's really all I have to say is

1248
00:52:59,359 --> 00:53:01,119
the community does love it and y'all

1249
00:53:01,119 --> 00:53:03,200
trust me with it. I've never like

1250
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:06,240
steered y'all wrong on anything and I

1251
00:53:06,240 --> 00:53:08,720
promise that we won't do anything else

1252
00:53:08,720 --> 00:53:11,920
and we'll get right permits. I promise.

1253
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:14,400
Just leave it up.

1254
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:21,109
>> All right. Thank you, ma'am.

1255
00:53:21,119 --> 00:53:23,119
Any other comments people feel they need

1256
00:53:23,119 --> 00:53:24,720
to be made? All right, we got one coming

1257
00:53:24,720 --> 00:53:37,030
in the back.

1258
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:38,559
» It's a very nice sign. My name is

1259
00:53:38,559 --> 00:53:43,680
Deborah Thompson and I think um the I

1260
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:52,480
think we're missing the point. The the point is if there is a permit that's

1261
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:54,079
required

1262
00:53:54,079 --> 00:53:56,640
and you don't get the permit

1263
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:58,000
expecting that you're going to be

1264
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:00,480
denied, which is what she said. That was

1265
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:02,559
the reason given that they did not

1266
00:54:02,559 --> 00:54:05,359
request the permit.

1267
00:54:05,359 --> 00:54:07,839
If you don't get the the permit and

1268
00:54:07,839 --> 00:54:10,240
expect that you're going to accept it

1269
00:54:10,240 --> 00:54:13,839
anyway once it's up, there's a problem.

1270
00:54:13,839 --> 00:54:15,920
And I think that's a problem. not just

1271
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:19,119
for this issue but any other issues that

1272
00:54:19,119 --> 00:54:22,160
we might face in our city. So we need to

1273
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:24,960
consider that

1274
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:27,280
uh

1275
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:30,240
I understand the sign you can take it

1276
00:54:30,240 --> 00:54:36,720
down until the permit is is it's completed just you leave it put

1277
00:54:36,720 --> 00:54:39,440
it back up when it's legal but until

1278
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:42,400
it's legal then it shouldn't be up. I

1279
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:45,839
don't care how pretty it is. Uh it's not

1280
00:54:45,839 --> 00:54:48,319
legal. It's not always done correctly

1281
00:54:48,319 --> 00:54:50,000
and we need to make sure that things are

1282
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:52,960
done decently and in order.

1283
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:54,319
>> Thank you.

1284
00:54:54,319 --> 00:54:56,559
Mr. Thompson.

1285
00:54:56,559 --> 00:54:57,920
>> Right.

1286
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:03,829
>> Okay. Any other comments?

1287
00:55:03,839 --> 00:55:08,069
» All right. We got one coming here.

1288
00:55:08,079 --> 00:55:10,319
» Jared, I know I'm not speaking on behalf

1289
00:55:10,319 --> 00:55:11,680
of the commission. Miss Alter did an

1290
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:13,359
excellent job. I want to thank y'all. I

1291
00:55:13,359 --> 00:55:15,200
know that y'all spent a lot of time

1292
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:17,920
working on this and we appreciate it.

1293
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:19,520
Um,

1294
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:21,119
I don't think the commission has

1295
00:55:21,119 --> 00:55:24,000
expressed an opinion on whether or not

1296
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:26,480
we should or shouldn't have murals. Um,

1297
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:28,640
I think that's not a decision that we've

1298
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:31,200
made. But I I do would just want to

1299
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:33,760
caution the council.

1300
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:37,359
Once you if you vote to allow this to go

1301
00:55:37,359 --> 00:55:41,040
up, Katie bar the doors because once you

1302
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:43,440
allow one mural to go up, we can't

1303
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:46,160
prevent any other ones from going up. So

1304
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:50,160
this decision is important and I I would just caution you all to think

1305
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:53,440
about it. So

1306
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:56,240
>> I will say to that that this one of

1307
00:55:56,240 --> 00:55:57,440
course we're only voting on this one

1308
00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:00,240
individually but we do have later in our

1309
00:56:00,240 --> 00:56:03,359
agenda that moratorum from if it's

1310
00:56:03,359 --> 00:56:06,319
passed that from today moving for 6

1311
00:56:06,319 --> 00:56:09,040
months no mural application will be

1312
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:12,079
accepted and to our ordinances are

1313
00:56:12,079 --> 00:56:16,079
amended um which however I can't say how

1314
00:56:16,079 --> 00:56:18,160
they'll be amended it's I'm only one

1315
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:21,520
vote and one decision but they'll be

1316
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:24,480
regulated in some form of way. So,

1317
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:26,000
what's before us today isn't going to be

1318
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:28,960
the same. Um, this is I just wanted to

1319
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:34,720
say that uh and I did look and um

1320
00:56:34,720 --> 00:56:37,200
where' I put it? Oh,

1321
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:40,400
I did look and and uh and Alex

1322
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:42,160
Washington, our city attorney, we looked

1323
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:45,359
at it together and our our ordinances

1324
00:56:45,359 --> 00:56:47,920
under penalties for violations does

1325
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:49,920
state

1326
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:52,799
that

1327
00:56:52,799 --> 00:56:55,920
uh any owner who violates the store

1328
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:58,319
district ordinance or laws

1329
00:56:58,319 --> 00:57:01,760
shall be fined not less than $50, no

1330
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:04,480
more than $100 for each infraction. It

1331
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:07,359
says each day the violation continues is

1332
00:57:07,359 --> 00:57:10,480
a separate offense. So that's now where

1333
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:11,760
I looked at that and that's when I went

1334
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:14,319
and talked to that word shall is what

1335
00:57:14,319 --> 00:57:18,079
stuck out to me. We we don't have I

1336
00:57:18,079 --> 00:57:19,760
don't see us having a say of getting

1337
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:22,079
around the shall. Would you agree with

1338
00:57:22,079 --> 00:57:22,480
that?

1339
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:23,760
>> Yeah, I agree with that.

1340
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:24,480
>> Um

1341
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:26,880
>> and plus the the commission in their

1342
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:31,839
ruling issued um penalties and so if we

1343
00:57:31,839 --> 00:57:34,960
are concurrent with that but modifying

1344
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:36,480
at the same time I think we

1345
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:42,230
>> Yeah. So

1346
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:45,920
» based on the date of the meeting to now,

1347
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:46,480
>> that's what I think

1348
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:49,040
>> that's where we came up with that. not

1349
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:51,520
go as far back as when it was initially

1350
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:53,280
installed, but when they had the

1351
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:55,200
meeting, which is when they're directly

1352
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:56,880
told

1353
00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:58,319
>> you violated this.

1354
00:57:58,319 --> 00:58:01,040
>> And that's what you that's 50 days. $50

1355
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:03,440
a day, which was the minimum amount

1356
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:06,000
>> starting the next day after the meeting

1357
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:10,079
till today is $1,350.

1358
00:58:10,079 --> 00:58:13,190
>> Um,

1359
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:16,880
» okay. Has a permit been applied for

1360
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:18,079
since then? Yes,

1361
00:58:18,079 --> 00:58:20,319
>> it has been applied. Okay, because she

1362
00:58:20,319 --> 00:58:23,200
spoke. So, it was applied for

1363
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:24,640
purposes. We went and looked

1364
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:25,599
>> that was not for the

1365
00:58:25,599 --> 00:58:28,400
>> application that was filed. I don't

1366
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:31,440
think includes the the mural. Chris, you

1367
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:32,960
might correct me if I'm wrong. We went

1368
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:34,960
and looked. There was there is an

1369
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:36,319
application that's been filed, but I

1370
00:58:36,319 --> 00:58:38,799
think it only pertains to the fencing,

1371
00:58:38,799 --> 00:58:41,200
the lighting. I don't think an actual

1372
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:46,390
permit on the site,

1373
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:49,599
» but you had a

1374
00:58:49,599 --> 00:58:52,559
>> they had a meeting just

1375
00:58:52,559 --> 00:58:53,200
on the mirror.

1376
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:53,839
>> They had the

1377
00:58:53,839 --> 00:58:55,440
>> Yeah. Can we speak in the mic, please,

1378
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:58,400
for the minutes if you don't mind?

1379
00:58:58,400 --> 00:58:59,839
>> And we need y'all to speak in the mic

1380
00:58:59,839 --> 00:59:02,000
for the minutes and for our audience

1381
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:03,280
that's online.

1382
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:05,839
>> It was filed the following day. This is

1383
00:59:05,839 --> 00:59:08,160
Chris Gillette. It was filed the day

1384
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:10,559
after the meeting because the count the

1385
00:59:10,559 --> 00:59:13,119
commission requested that they do so and

1386
00:59:13,119 --> 00:59:14,799
so they did. They said, "We think y'all

1387
00:59:14,799 --> 00:59:16,880
need to file an application for the

1388
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:19,040
artwork and several other things, too."

1389
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:22,000
So, they did file that and all of that's

1390
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:25,359
included in the pending application.

1391
00:59:25,359 --> 00:59:28,640
>> Was a sign, you had a comment?

1392
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:29,280
>> No.

1393
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:31,119
>> When we looked at it, the sign was a

1394
00:59:31,119 --> 00:59:33,359
sign in the packet this morning.

1395
00:59:33,359 --> 00:59:36,079
>> I didn't see it checked off.

1396
00:59:36,079 --> 00:59:37,200
I can get the original

1397
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:39,280
>> the application checks off for signage

1398
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:42,720
and then it lists some other reasons. Um

1399
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:44,319
but we have not ruled on this

1400
00:59:44,319 --> 00:59:46,480
application. It's it's before it's

1401
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:49,680
before us next month I guess

1402
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:51,119
>> money meeting. So

1403
00:59:51,119 --> 00:59:52,640
>> okay rule

1404
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:54,079
>> I'll go I'll go ahead and

1405
00:59:54,079 --> 00:59:55,520
>> they rule.

1406
00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:59,760
>> Yeah. Uh I'll go ahead and due to the

1407
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:04,079
fact that uh this matter on the mural I

1408
01:00:04,079 --> 01:00:06,799
believe has already been adjudicated and

1409
01:00:06,799 --> 01:00:08,640
really technically a permit hearing has

1410
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:10,079
been heard even though one wasn't filed

1411
01:00:10,079 --> 01:00:12,240
at the time. I move that the city

1412
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:14,240
council pursuant to this authority on

1413
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:16,400
appeal to reverse change or modify

1414
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:17,599
decision of the store district

1415
01:00:17,599 --> 01:00:20,000
commission affirm in part reverse in

1416
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:23,200
part and modify the decision as follows.

1417
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:27,599
Uh, first I move that we modify the

1418
01:00:27,599 --> 01:00:29,280
commission's

1419
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:32,400
decision of the $50 per day fine

1420
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:35,520
beginning after a 60-day period

1421
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:37,359
and instead

1422
01:00:37,359 --> 01:00:40,000
based on our ordinances

1423
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:43,200
uh have it begin from July 29th, which

1424
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:47,359
was the day after their meeting to today

1425
01:00:47,359 --> 01:00:50,400
ends at $50 a day for a total fine of

1426
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:52,640
$1,350.

1427
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:54,559
Also, I move that we reverse the portion

1428
01:00:54,559 --> 01:00:56,240
of the commission's decision requiring

1429
01:00:56,240 --> 01:00:58,720
the mural to be removed. I further move

1430
01:00:58,720 --> 01:01:01,119
that we modify the commission's decision

1431
01:01:01,119 --> 01:01:03,200
to approve this mural in its present

1432
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:05,680
form, as present location, and allow it

1433
01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:07,119
to remain.

1434
01:01:07,119 --> 01:01:09,760
>> Second.

1435
01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:13,599
>> Okay. Motion made and seconded.

1436
01:01:13,599 --> 01:01:16,079
We've already asked for comments,

1437
01:01:16,079 --> 01:01:18,319
so

1438
01:01:18,319 --> 01:01:20,319
>> All right. Say your first and last name,

1439
01:01:20,319 --> 01:01:23,200
please.

1440
01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:26,559
I'm Nancy Thomas and I'm confused here.

1441
01:01:26,559 --> 01:01:31,520
You're finding one group of people yet

1442
01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:34,480
the Bank of Montgomery has been up for

1443
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:38,079
years and has had no consequences. Will

1444
01:01:38,079 --> 01:01:40,559
there be consequences against the Bank

1445
01:01:40,559 --> 01:01:43,520
of Montgomery?

1446
01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:45,520
>> A mural is a mural.

1447
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:46,400
>> There needs to be.

1448
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:47,520
>> That's not a It needs to be.

1449
01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:48,240
>> There needs to be.

1450
01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:49,119
>> It needs to be,

1451
01:01:49,119 --> 01:01:51,119
>> but it's not an agenda item today. It

1452
01:01:51,119 --> 01:01:53,280
needs to be since they are in the

1453
01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:55,119
landmark district.

1454
01:01:55,119 --> 01:01:56,559
>> City attorney Washington.

1455
01:01:56,559 --> 01:01:58,640
>> Yeah. It's not an agenda item today, but

1456
01:01:58,640 --> 01:01:58,960
>> yeah,

1457
01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:00,880
>> it sounds like the council will and

1458
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:02,400
administration may address that.

1459
01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:02,960
>> I'm sorry.

1460
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:04,960
>> It's not on the agenda today for us to

1461
01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:05,599
kind of discuss.

1462
01:02:05,599 --> 01:02:08,480
>> Oh, you will um attend to that at a

1463
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:09,599
later date.

1464
01:02:09,599 --> 01:02:11,280
>> It sounds like from administration and

1465
01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:12,559
the council we will

1466
01:02:12,559 --> 01:02:12,960
>> Okay.

1467
01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:14,000
>> discuss with them.

1468
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:15,920
>> Yeah. Because this today we're only here

1469
01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:19,200
for for this one. the

1470
01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:21,440
but that it needs to be. I agree with

1471
01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:22,720
you.

1472
01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:25,520
>> All right. Okay. We've got a motion.

1473
01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:27,599
We've got a second.

1474
01:02:27,599 --> 01:02:29,359
>> Mrs. Stacy, roll call vote.

1475
01:02:29,359 --> 01:02:30,079
>> Eli,

1476
01:02:30,079 --> 01:02:30,640
>> yes.

1477
01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:31,359
>> Nelson,

1478
01:02:31,359 --> 01:02:31,760
>> yes.

1479
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:33,119
>> Smith Kirkindall,

1480
01:02:33,119 --> 01:02:33,599
>> yes.

1481
01:02:33,599 --> 01:02:34,319
>> Harington,

1482
01:02:34,319 --> 01:02:34,720
>> yes.

1483
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:35,280
>> PT,

1484
01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:35,599
>> yes.

1485
01:02:35,599 --> 01:02:38,319
>> All right, the motion carries. All

1486
01:02:38,319 --> 01:02:43,359
right, our next agenda item.

1487
01:02:43,359 --> 01:02:45,520
We have a proclamation and is read by

1488
01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:47,520
Councilman PT. Thank you, mayor.

1489
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:51,040
Resolution number 058 of 2026, a

1490
01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:53,839
proclamation declaring September

1491
01:02:53,839 --> 01:02:56,950
2026

1492
01:02:56,960 --> 01:02:57,920
as national

1493
01:02:57,920 --> 01:02:59,839
>> Councilman PT. Hold on. We got some

1494
01:02:59,839 --> 01:03:02,160
Yeah, this makes sense.

1495
01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:04,079
>> As people are leaving now.

1496
01:03:04,079 --> 01:03:09,990
>> Okay. Thank you, sir.

1497
01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:12,799
» Is the person here who did the mural

1498
01:03:12,799 --> 01:03:13,760
>> or not?

1499
01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:16,079
>> No, he's not here.

1500
01:03:16,079 --> 01:03:18,400
I could make these out of town.

1501
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:19,440
>> The artist. You mean

1502
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:23,359
>> the artist? Yeah, the artist.

1503
01:03:23,359 --> 01:03:24,880
>> Right.

1504
01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:27,680
>> Okay. All right. Councilman, you can go.

1505
01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:31,039
>> Uh proclamation declaring September 2026

1506
01:03:31,039 --> 01:03:33,520
as national sick cell awareness month in

1507
01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:35,839
the city of Nagades. Whereas September

1508
01:03:35,839 --> 01:03:38,640
is national sickell awareness month. The

1509
01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:40,559
observance passed by congressional

1510
01:03:40,559 --> 01:03:43,920
resolution in 1983 was endorsed through

1511
01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:46,480
presidential proclamation which spoke to

1512
01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:48,559
the national progress that had been made

1513
01:03:48,559 --> 01:03:50,960
to diagnose and treat sickle cell

1514
01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:54,079
disease. Whereas the proclamation also

1515
01:03:54,079 --> 01:03:56,720
cited the success of comprehensive

1516
01:03:56,720 --> 01:03:58,720
cickle cell centers across the United

1517
01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:01,200
States in establishing programs of

1518
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:04,000
research, training and community service

1519
01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:06,960
to address sickle cell disorder, a blood

1520
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:09,200
disorder causing abnormalities in

1521
01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:12,000
hemoglobin leading to the tailtale

1522
01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:14,400
sickle shape in sufferers red blood

1523
01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:18,079
cells. Whereas in the past decade there

1524
01:04:18,079 --> 01:04:19,839
has been substantial progress in

1525
01:04:19,839 --> 01:04:22,240
research on cickle cell disease

1526
01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:24,319
diagnostic procedures have greatly

1527
01:04:24,319 --> 01:04:27,280
improved. Whereas sickle cell disease

1528
01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:30,160
pre prevents presents grave health

1529
01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:33,359
challenges for an estimated 100,000

1530
01:04:33,359 --> 01:04:36,720
Americans. For some it triggers episodes

1531
01:04:36,720 --> 01:04:39,680
of pain, difficulty with vision and

1532
01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:42,400
serious fatigue. Other survivors

1533
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:45,440
experience this disease more acutely.

1534
01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:48,000
Sickle cell disease can cause

1535
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:50,559
infections, strokes, and even organ

1536
01:04:50,559 --> 01:04:53,440
failure. Whereas for almost everyone

1537
01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:56,400
impacted, coping with the inherited red

1538
01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:59,039
blood cell disorder means putting plans

1539
01:04:59,039 --> 01:05:02,559
off, on pause, living with excruciating

1540
01:05:02,559 --> 01:05:05,599
pain, paying for expensive treatments,

1541
01:05:05,599 --> 01:05:07,599
and hoping for a day when medications

1542
01:05:07,599 --> 01:05:10,000
and doctor visits no longer interrupt

1543
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:11,119
life.

1544
01:05:11,119 --> 01:05:13,599
Whereas during National Sickle Awareness

1545
01:05:13,599 --> 01:05:16,160
Month, we recognize the persever

1546
01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:18,400
perseverance of sickle cell disorder

1547
01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:20,799
patients and we recommmit to working

1548
01:05:20,799 --> 01:05:22,720
with our partners in state and local

1549
01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:25,839
government, the nonprofit space and the

1550
01:05:25,839 --> 01:05:33,680
private sector to develop treatments and cures for this debilitating disease.

1551
01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:36,960
Whereas sickle cell disorder affects our

1552
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:39,039
population unevenly.

1553
01:05:39,039 --> 01:05:40,880
Black and brown Americans are

1554
01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:43,760
disproportionately affected. About 1 in

1555
01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:46,160
13 black children test positive for the

1556
01:05:46,160 --> 01:05:49,680
sickle cell trait and about 1 in 365

1557
01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:52,480
black Americans develop the disease over

1558
01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:55,200
the course of their lifetime. Due to

1559
01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:58,319
persistent systemic inequalities in our

1560
01:05:58,319 --> 01:06:00,960
health care system, these fame patients

1561
01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:04,880
are often last to get help.

1562
01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:06,960
Whereas as we continue to research to

1563
01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:09,280
find a cure for sick cell disease, let

1564
01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:11,359
us celebrate the strides our health

1565
01:06:11,359 --> 01:06:13,440
experts have made in understanding and

1566
01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:15,680
treating this condition. Let let us

1567
01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:17,760
continue to offer support to those

1568
01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:20,799
that's battling every day. May I so move

1569
01:06:20,799 --> 01:06:24,400
to adopt resolution number 058?

1570
01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:25,520
>> Second.

1571
01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:29,599
>> Motion made and seconded. Um, look, I

1572
01:06:29,599 --> 01:06:32,480
mean, you read about the facts and uh,

1573
01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:35,119
who is affected disproportionately and

1574
01:06:35,119 --> 01:06:38,240
um, I think there's been some, we may

1575
01:06:38,240 --> 01:06:39,520
have mentioned this last year, there

1576
01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:42,799
have been some um, developments in six

1577
01:06:42,799 --> 01:06:44,960
cell research, which is great. And so,

1578
01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:46,240
we want to continue to bring attention.

1579
01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:48,319
I do know there's an announcement later

1580
01:06:48,319 --> 01:06:53,359
on well where um uh the women of Delta

1581
01:06:53,359 --> 01:06:56,640
Sigma Theta have an event plans center

1582
01:06:56,640 --> 01:07:00,559
around um sick cell information and

1583
01:07:00,559 --> 01:07:02,240
things of that nature. So again I think

1584
01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:04,079
Miss Julie are you here for this

1585
01:07:04,079 --> 01:07:06,400
particular proclamation? any remarks you

1586
01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:07,520
have or

1587
01:07:07,520 --> 01:07:10,720
>> I would like to do the activities that

1588
01:07:10,720 --> 01:07:11,520
we plan.

1589
01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:13,280
>> Come on, say it on the mic front of your

1590
01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:15,200
mind. State your first and last name and

1591
01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:18,000
then whatever remarks you have.

1592
01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:20,000
>> Judith Hayes.

1593
01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:24,160
I'm here uh this is our sixth year and

1594
01:07:24,160 --> 01:07:26,799
I'm coming in

1595
01:07:26,799 --> 01:07:30,400
um the presence for uh the crew of

1596
01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:34,720
excellence Delta Sigma Theta and other

1597
01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:37,839
uh resource persons that will be

1598
01:07:37,839 --> 01:07:41,760
participating in our endeavor to

1599
01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:47,280
continue to um educate our system

1600
01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:50,640
because this is a a deadly their disease

1601
01:07:50,640 --> 01:07:53,520
and it's very painful for our young

1602
01:07:53,520 --> 01:07:56,640
people when they have discovered that

1603
01:07:56,640 --> 01:07:59,200
they have this disease.

1604
01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:03,039
Now, um the crew of excellence will be

1605
01:08:03,039 --> 01:08:06,720
giving out ribbons uh at the different

1606
01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:12,640
uh uh stores and this is to get more

1607
01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:17,759
people aware of the syel disease. On de

1608
01:08:17,759 --> 01:08:22,319
on September the 19th from 10 to 12 at

1609
01:08:22,319 --> 01:08:25,600
the m Martin Luther King Center, uh

1610
01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:29,440
Delta Sigma Theta will host uh the

1611
01:08:29,440 --> 01:08:33,679
annual sickle cell uh awareness event

1612
01:08:33,679 --> 01:08:36,719
along with the outpatient clinic

1613
01:08:36,719 --> 01:08:38,640
uh scarf.

1614
01:08:38,640 --> 01:08:41,040
This is the sickle cell resource center

1615
01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:44,560
in Alexandria, Louisiana. Zeta Faba

1616
01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:49,120
sority and lastly but not least crew of

1617
01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:52,560
excellence. Surely we want to give blood

1618
01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:56,560
for those that are able to and it was

1619
01:08:56,560 --> 01:09:00,880
announced that we are it is a shortage

1620
01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:04,080
for uh donation of blood. So we need

1621
01:09:04,080 --> 01:09:05,600
everybody

1622
01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:08,719
uh collectively to come out and give

1623
01:09:08,719 --> 01:09:10,640
blood.

1624
01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:15,600
um the everyone can play a part in this

1625
01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:18,400
effort and I would like to thank you for

1626
01:09:18,400 --> 01:09:22,080
your time and consideration for having

1627
01:09:22,080 --> 01:09:25,440
this month sickle cell anemia awareness

1628
01:09:25,440 --> 01:09:26,239
month.

1629
01:09:26,239 --> 01:09:28,159
>> Thank you so much ma'am. We appreciate

1630
01:09:28,159 --> 01:09:31,279
you look and um again thank you for the

1631
01:09:31,279 --> 01:09:32,719
work that you all are doing.

1632
01:09:32,719 --> 01:09:33,440
>> All right.

1633
01:09:33,440 --> 01:09:34,880
>> Did we have a I think we had a motion in

1634
01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:35,920
a second.

1635
01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:38,880
>> Any comment about this proclamation? I

1636
01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:41,120
speak to mar just real quick. So I

1637
01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:43,679
myself I have a trait. Uh I had a

1638
01:09:43,679 --> 01:09:46,960
brother that passed. Uh he actually had

1639
01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:52,640
the fullon sickle cell. My nephew Landon Hicks he had sickle cell but like

1640
01:09:52,640 --> 01:09:54,480
right now he's in the process of going

1641
01:09:54,480 --> 01:09:56,080
to like New Orleans to see if he'll

1642
01:09:56,080 --> 01:09:58,560
qualify for like a transplant with the

1643
01:09:58,560 --> 01:10:01,520
like stem cells. And so he had like a

1644
01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:03,600
lot of blood work done. So it's a

1645
01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:05,920
possibility that he can possibly like be

1646
01:10:05,920 --> 01:10:08,239
cured. Like they had one guy, I forget

1647
01:10:08,239 --> 01:10:09,600
where he was from. I think it was

1648
01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:10,640
Louisiana,

1649
01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:13,520
>> but he had a successful uh transplant.

1650
01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:13,840
>> Wow.

1651
01:10:13,840 --> 01:10:14,800
>> Yeah,

1652
01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:16,239
>> that's good,

1653
01:10:16,239 --> 01:10:17,440
>> man.

1654
01:10:17,440 --> 01:10:19,199
>> Madison is making some improvements,

1655
01:10:19,199 --> 01:10:20,000
right?

1656
01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:21,040
>> So, we hope that uh

1657
01:10:21,040 --> 01:10:22,640
>> So, I see that often like, you know,

1658
01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:24,080
where they talked about like being in

1659
01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:28,480
pain and stuff like that. I mean, it's really tough on them and he's only

1660
01:10:28,480 --> 01:10:30,960
like 10 years old, you know, so it it be

1661
01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:32,320
Yeah. When they when they go into a

1662
01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:34,640
crisis, it be can be pretty rough.

1663
01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:37,750
>> Yeah.

1664
01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:42,550
All righty.

1665
01:10:42,560 --> 01:10:45,360
» Excellence to come and we can take a

1666
01:10:45,360 --> 01:10:48,239
picture. I think

1667
01:10:48,239 --> 01:10:50,159
>> Okay. Or you want to do it? We could

1668
01:10:50,159 --> 01:10:51,600
take one with you.

1669
01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:55,440
>> Yeah. Come on. We'll just do you.

1670
01:10:55,440 --> 01:10:57,760
>> Oh, crew of excellent delta. Hey. Oh,

1671
01:10:57,760 --> 01:10:59,520
you y'all want to approve if I come back

1672
01:10:59,520 --> 01:11:00,719
first?

1673
01:11:00,719 --> 01:11:03,920
>> Hey, Mrs. Stacy. Real combo. Miss Judy,

1674
01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:05,360
you don't have to go too far. That's

1675
01:11:05,360 --> 01:11:06,560
okay.

1676
01:11:06,560 --> 01:11:07,840
>> Eli,

1677
01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:08,719
>> uh, yes.

1678
01:11:08,719 --> 01:11:09,440
>> Nelson,

1679
01:11:09,440 --> 01:11:10,000
>> yes.

1680
01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:11,360
>> Smith Kirkindall,

1681
01:11:11,360 --> 01:11:12,080
>> yes.

1682
01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:12,719
>> Harington,

1683
01:11:12,719 --> 01:11:13,120
>> yes.

1684
01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:13,679
>> PT,

1685
01:11:13,679 --> 01:11:14,000
>> yes.

1686
01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:15,040
>> All right, that motion carries. All

1687
01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:23,030
right, Miss Shooter.

1688
01:11:23,040 --> 01:11:26,470
» Yeah. Yeah.

1689
01:11:26,480 --> 01:11:28,800
Oh,

1690
01:11:28,800 --> 01:11:30,719
that's

1691
01:11:30,719 --> 01:11:51,430
too

1692
01:11:51,440 --> 01:12:05,590
» big.

1693
01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:30,709
They have too many meals.

1694
01:12:30,719 --> 01:12:32,400
Appreciate y'all crew of excellence in

1695
01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:35,199
Deltas. What community organization

1696
01:12:35,199 --> 01:12:40,400
should be doing. Continue to bring that positive attention. All right.

1697
01:12:40,400 --> 01:12:42,400
Next, we have another proclamation. It's

1698
01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:43,920
read by Councilman Nielson.

1699
01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:45,360
>> Thank you, Mayor. I'm getting hungry

1700
01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:48,400
just looking at this one. Resolution

1701
01:12:48,400 --> 01:12:51,360
number 61 of 2026, proclamation

1702
01:12:51,360 --> 01:12:56,159
declaring September 18th and 19th, 2026

1703
01:12:56,159 --> 01:12:59,760
as Nacades meat pie festival days in the

1704
01:12:59,760 --> 01:13:02,400
city of Nacadesh. Whereas records show

1705
01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:04,480
that the concept of the meat pie took

1706
01:13:04,480 --> 01:13:08,159
shape in the mid 1700s in Louisiana by

1707
01:13:08,159 --> 01:13:10,320
Native Americans and later enhanced by

1708
01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:14,000
the Spanish. And whereas 56 years ago,

1709
01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:17,760
James Lzion opened up his meat pie

1710
01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:19,520
kitchen, which is still in operation

1711
01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:23,120
today in historic downtown Nacadesh. And

1712
01:13:23,120 --> 01:13:25,040
whereas the recipe of the meat pie has

1713
01:13:25,040 --> 01:13:27,520
changed slightly from its inception and

1714
01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:29,840
has been handed down from generation to

1715
01:13:29,840 --> 01:13:32,000
generation. However, the basic

1716
01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:34,960
ingredient and the process for creating

1717
01:13:34,960 --> 01:13:37,679
a meat pie remains the same. And whereas

1718
01:13:37,679 --> 01:13:40,640
with the abundance with an abundance of

1719
01:13:40,640 --> 01:13:43,679
excitement in 2002, the Nacadish Meat

1720
01:13:43,679 --> 01:13:46,159
Pie Festival was formed to celebrate the

1721
01:13:46,159 --> 01:13:49,120
noted culinary staple in Nacades,

1722
01:13:49,120 --> 01:13:52,480
Louisiana. And whereas in 2003, the

1723
01:13:52,480 --> 01:13:55,679
Nacadish Meat Pie was named Louisiana's

1724
01:13:55,679 --> 01:13:58,640
official meat pie. And Nacades was one

1725
01:13:58,640 --> 01:14:01,440
of the last cities to not have an

1726
01:14:01,440 --> 01:14:05,440
identified food festival until 2002. And

1727
01:14:05,440 --> 01:14:07,520
whereas the annual festival attracts

1728
01:14:07,520 --> 01:14:10,400
visitors from throughout the state in

1729
01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:12,800
over a dozen of other states as well

1730
01:14:12,800 --> 01:14:15,520
each year. And whereas the festival has

1731
01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:18,159
always been a familyoriented

1732
01:14:18,159 --> 01:14:20,960
non-admission required event over a

1733
01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:24,159
two-day period in downtown Nacades

1734
01:14:24,159 --> 01:14:26,320
helping to enhance the area's economy

1735
01:14:26,320 --> 01:14:28,960
with individual activities that can be

1736
01:14:28,960 --> 01:14:31,679
enjoyed at a small fee. And whereas the

1737
01:14:31,679 --> 01:14:34,320
organizing committee for the festival is

1738
01:14:34,320 --> 01:14:36,640
a complete volunteer committee. And

1739
01:14:36,640 --> 01:14:39,360
whereas the Knackers Meepot Festival is

1740
01:14:39,360 --> 01:14:42,719
returning by popular demand after a

1741
01:14:42,719 --> 01:14:48,159
two-year break due to the novel Corona virus that needs to be taken out

1742
01:14:48,159 --> 01:14:50,560
of there. Now therefore, I Ronnie

1743
01:14:50,560 --> 01:14:52,320
Williams Jr. and the Nacades City

1744
01:14:52,320 --> 01:14:56,000
Council do hereby proclaim September 18

1745
01:14:56,000 --> 01:15:00,000
and 19, 2026 as Nakadesh meat pie

1746
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:01,760
festival dates.

1747
01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:02,640
>> Oh, I see what you're saying.

1748
01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:05,360
>> That we adopt resolution number 61 of

1749
01:15:05,360 --> 01:15:06,640
2026.

1750
01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:07,760
>> Second.

1751
01:15:07,760 --> 01:15:10,480
>> All right. Motion is made and second. I

1752
01:15:10,480 --> 01:15:12,159
see what you're saying, Councilman Nson.

1753
01:15:12,159 --> 01:15:15,280
So, we'll get that out for next year's

1754
01:15:15,280 --> 01:15:17,679
proclamation. Hey, we just we've been

1755
01:15:17,679 --> 01:15:20,080
doing these proclamations about it.

1756
01:15:20,080 --> 01:15:24,000
um concern in regarding each of our

1757
01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:25,360
festivals just kind of bring some

1758
01:15:25,360 --> 01:15:27,120
attention. Obviously, we do videos as

1759
01:15:27,120 --> 01:15:28,880
well. We dropped a video today on the

1760
01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:30,800
Zidatico Festival. This particular

1761
01:15:30,800 --> 01:15:34,080
festival is, as we see up here, the 18th

1762
01:15:34,080 --> 01:15:37,120
and the 19th of September. Um so, we're

1763
01:15:37,120 --> 01:15:38,880
looking forward and it's a while the

1764
01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:42,080
Zadico Festival Chief is only $20 on

1765
01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:45,520
that Saturday and Friday is free, but um

1766
01:15:45,520 --> 01:15:47,280
what the Meep folks like to say, they're

1767
01:15:47,280 --> 01:15:50,080
totally free all weekend. um admission

1768
01:15:50,080 --> 01:15:53,360
that is obviously um any food you want

1769
01:15:53,360 --> 01:15:56,560
you have to pay for that drinks and um

1770
01:15:56,560 --> 01:15:58,159
they have some they have some rides and

1771
01:15:58,159 --> 01:16:00,000
things like that. So it's going to be a

1772
01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:01,679
fun weekend like I said already we're

1773
01:16:01,679 --> 01:16:04,080
getting into a busy busy season.

1774
01:16:04,080 --> 01:16:05,840
Christmas fest is coming obviously but

1775
01:16:05,840 --> 01:16:09,760
even before that um like we said we'll

1776
01:16:09,760 --> 01:16:12,320
talk about the Bigfoot um we've got

1777
01:16:12,320 --> 01:16:14,640
Meepi, you've got the car show, you've

1778
01:16:14,640 --> 01:16:16,880
got Top of the Boot, then so many other

1779
01:16:16,880 --> 01:16:19,520
things happening. So, um, really great.

1780
01:16:19,520 --> 01:16:23,040
But, you know, anytime we have people

1781
01:16:23,040 --> 01:16:25,360
and go and talk to folks, they say

1782
01:16:25,360 --> 01:16:26,880
something about the naggish meat pie

1783
01:16:26,880 --> 01:16:29,600
and, uh, different ways to make them,

1784
01:16:29,600 --> 01:16:32,800
you know. Um, so, so really that's one

1785
01:16:32,800 --> 01:16:34,880
of the things that identify us. We don't

1786
01:16:34,880 --> 01:16:36,400
have anybody I don't think we have

1787
01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:38,400
anybody from the meat pie committee

1788
01:16:38,400 --> 01:16:40,640
here, but again, we just kind of like to

1789
01:16:40,640 --> 01:16:42,400
do this. This is one step in trying to

1790
01:16:42,400 --> 01:16:44,719
bring attention to that festival. All

1791
01:16:44,719 --> 01:16:46,880
righty. Um, any comments or questions

1792
01:16:46,880 --> 01:16:49,120
here?

1793
01:16:49,120 --> 01:16:51,280
>> All right. See, Mr. Sy, roll call vote.

1794
01:16:51,280 --> 01:16:51,920
>> Eli,

1795
01:16:51,920 --> 01:16:52,400
>> yes.

1796
01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:53,120
>> Nelson,

1797
01:16:53,120 --> 01:16:53,760
>> yes.

1798
01:16:53,760 --> 01:16:55,199
>> Smith Perkin Doll,

1799
01:16:55,199 --> 01:16:55,679
>> yes.

1800
01:16:55,679 --> 01:16:56,320
>> Harrington,

1801
01:16:56,320 --> 01:16:56,640
>> yes.

1802
01:16:56,640 --> 01:16:57,199
>> PT,

1803
01:16:57,199 --> 01:16:59,280
>> yes. All right, that motion carries.

1804
01:16:59,280 --> 01:17:01,760
Again, the 19th, the 18th and 19th of

1805
01:17:01,760 --> 01:17:04,000
September. All right, we have a couple

1806
01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:05,760
ordinances that are up for a vote

1807
01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:07,679
tonight. And the first one is read by

1808
01:17:07,679 --> 01:17:10,239
Councilman Harrington. Ordinance 28 of

1809
01:17:10,239 --> 01:17:12,880
2026, an ordinance authorizing the mayor

1810
01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:14,960
of the city of Nacadish to award the bid

1811
01:17:14,960 --> 01:17:17,199
for hanger door replacement at the

1812
01:17:17,199 --> 01:17:19,440
Nacadish regional airport. This was

1813
01:17:19,440 --> 01:17:21,199
introduced at the last meeting. I move

1814
01:17:21,199 --> 01:17:24,320
to adopt ordinance 28 of 2026.

1815
01:17:24,320 --> 01:17:25,760
>> Second.

1816
01:17:25,760 --> 01:17:28,080
>> Okay. Motion made and seconded. All

1817
01:17:28,080 --> 01:17:30,480
right. Hangor replacement. I think this

1818
01:17:30,480 --> 01:17:34,960
is 100% paid for by state and federal.

1819
01:17:34,960 --> 01:17:35,440
Is that correct?

1820
01:17:35,440 --> 01:17:36,159
>> That's correct.

1821
01:17:36,159 --> 01:17:36,640
>> Okay. So,

1822
01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:40,320
>> yeah. 95% FAA and 5% space.

1823
01:17:40,320 --> 01:17:43,440
>> Okay, good.

1824
01:17:43,440 --> 01:17:45,760
All right, any questions about this

1825
01:17:45,760 --> 01:17:48,719
item?

1826
01:17:48,719 --> 01:17:50,560
>> All right, seeing Mr. Stacy, roll call

1827
01:17:50,560 --> 01:17:51,120
vote.

1828
01:17:51,120 --> 01:17:51,920
>> Eli,

1829
01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:52,400
>> yes.

1830
01:17:52,400 --> 01:17:53,040
>> Nelson,

1831
01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:53,520
>> yes.

1832
01:17:53,520 --> 01:17:54,719
>> Smith Kirkindall,

1833
01:17:54,719 --> 01:17:55,120
>> yes.

1834
01:17:55,120 --> 01:17:55,840
>> Harington,

1835
01:17:55,840 --> 01:17:57,360
>> yes.

1836
01:17:57,360 --> 01:17:59,760
>> All right, that motion carries. Uh the

1837
01:17:59,760 --> 01:18:02,000
second ordinance that's up for final is

1838
01:18:02,000 --> 01:18:04,560
Councilman uh well it's dealing with

1839
01:18:04,560 --> 01:18:06,080
revoking dedication but it's read by

1840
01:18:06,080 --> 01:18:08,080
Councilman Nielson.

1841
01:18:08,080 --> 01:18:11,120
Uh ordinance number 29 was introduced at

1842
01:18:11,120 --> 01:18:13,280
our last meeting. I'll read it in title

1843
01:18:13,280 --> 01:18:15,600
only. an ordinance revoking the

1844
01:18:15,600 --> 01:18:18,480
dedication of a portion of Third Street

1845
01:18:18,480 --> 01:18:21,280
which is situated in section 139

1846
01:18:21,280 --> 01:18:24,560
Township 9 North Rain 7 West City and

1847
01:18:24,560 --> 01:18:28,239
Parish and Nacades being that portion of

1848
01:18:28,239 --> 01:18:30,719
Third Street located south of Church

1849
01:18:30,719 --> 01:18:32,800
Street declaring that said portion of

1850
01:18:32,800 --> 01:18:35,679
Third Street is abandoned and the

1851
01:18:35,679 --> 01:18:38,400
dedication revoked providing for an

1852
01:18:38,400 --> 01:18:40,159
effective date of the ordinance and

1853
01:18:40,159 --> 01:18:42,719
saving clause and I've been assured that

1854
01:18:42,719 --> 01:18:45,840
we get to retain the servitude. So I

1855
01:18:45,840 --> 01:18:49,040
move to adopt ordinance number 29 of

1856
01:18:49,040 --> 01:18:50,400
2026.

1857
01:18:50,400 --> 01:18:51,840
>> Second.

1858
01:18:51,840 --> 01:18:55,830
>> Motion made and seconded.

1859
01:18:55,840 --> 01:18:57,440
Um

1860
01:18:57,440 --> 01:18:59,840
I think we have an attorney here but I

1861
01:18:59,840 --> 01:19:01,760
don't if you don't have to say look I

1862
01:19:01,760 --> 01:19:04,239
think most people didn't even realize

1863
01:19:04,239 --> 01:19:05,600
this was

1864
01:19:05,600 --> 01:19:06,560
>> a thing.

1865
01:19:06,560 --> 01:19:09,120
>> Yeah. Like that that third street used

1866
01:19:09,120 --> 01:19:12,640
to go that way. But um is here.

1867
01:19:12,640 --> 01:19:13,440
>> That's all.

1868
01:19:13,440 --> 01:19:14,960
>> Yeah. But he may or may not have

1869
01:19:14,960 --> 01:19:16,159
anything to say. You want to say

1870
01:19:16,159 --> 01:19:16,400
something?

1871
01:19:16,400 --> 01:19:18,320
>> All right. You don't have to Chris.

1872
01:19:18,320 --> 01:19:19,280
>> You good?

1873
01:19:19,280 --> 01:19:21,120
>> Okay. State your first and last name

1874
01:19:21,120 --> 01:19:21,679
there. Sir,

1875
01:19:21,679 --> 01:19:24,239
>> Mr. Mayor uh city council. My name is

1876
01:19:24,239 --> 01:19:28,400
Chris Henry and I initiated the request

1877
01:19:28,400 --> 01:19:31,280
for abandonment on this property on

1878
01:19:31,280 --> 01:19:35,040
behalf of the First Baptist Church and

1879
01:19:35,040 --> 01:19:37,600
uh the new owner of my office, which is

1880
01:19:37,600 --> 01:19:40,719
Fair Legacy 3 LLC.

1881
01:19:40,719 --> 01:19:45,120
And this portion of Third Street has is

1882
01:19:45,120 --> 01:19:46,960
very familiar to me because it's been my

1883
01:19:46,960 --> 01:19:50,159
driveway for the last 34 years.

1884
01:19:50,159 --> 01:19:53,360
And uh it was initially

1885
01:19:53,360 --> 01:19:54,880
kept

1886
01:19:54,880 --> 01:19:58,640
by uh the city as Third Street because

1887
01:19:58,640 --> 01:20:01,520
it allowed access to St. Mary's which

1888
01:20:01,520 --> 01:20:04,239
was originally behind which is now owned

1889
01:20:04,239 --> 01:20:07,600
by the First Baptist Church. But again,

1890
01:20:07,600 --> 01:20:13,120
uh the road is in really bad shape. It's

1891
01:20:13,120 --> 01:20:17,440
got ruts and uh the Baptist church and

1892
01:20:17,440 --> 01:20:20,239
uh the new owner uh Fair Legacy would

1893
01:20:20,239 --> 01:20:23,360
like to u to basically repave it, make

1894
01:20:23,360 --> 01:20:26,000
it a decent driveway and that's why

1895
01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:28,239
we're we're we are requesting the

1896
01:20:28,239 --> 01:20:31,280
abandonment at this time.

1897
01:20:31,280 --> 01:20:31,679
>> Any question?

1898
01:20:31,679 --> 01:20:33,440
>> You name is Henry. Any questions for Mr.

1899
01:20:33,440 --> 01:20:34,800
Henry?

1900
01:20:34,800 --> 01:20:36,400
>> All right. Thank you, sir.

1901
01:20:36,400 --> 01:20:37,199
>> Thank you.

1902
01:20:37,199 --> 01:20:41,679
>> Okay. Any other comments or questions?

1903
01:20:41,679 --> 01:20:42,880
All right. I ain't seeing none. We did

1904
01:20:42,880 --> 01:20:44,000
get a motion. Second, right?

1905
01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:44,239
>> Yes.

1906
01:20:44,239 --> 01:20:45,520
>> Uh, roll call vote.

1907
01:20:45,520 --> 01:20:46,320
>> Eli,

1908
01:20:46,320 --> 01:20:46,800
>> yes.

1909
01:20:46,800 --> 01:20:47,440
>> Nelson,

1910
01:20:47,440 --> 01:20:47,840
>> yes.

1911
01:20:47,840 --> 01:20:49,199
>> Smith Kirk,

1912
01:20:49,199 --> 01:20:49,760
>> yes.

1913
01:20:49,760 --> 01:20:50,400
>> Harington,

1914
01:20:50,400 --> 01:20:52,080
>> yes.

1915
01:20:52,080 --> 01:20:55,199
>> All right, that motion carries.

1916
01:20:55,199 --> 01:20:57,600
All right, we've got two ordinances that

1917
01:20:57,600 --> 01:21:00,880
are for up for introduction tonight. And

1918
01:21:00,880 --> 01:21:03,440
the first one is read by Councilman PT.

1919
01:21:03,440 --> 01:21:05,679
>> Thank you, mayor. Ordinance number 030

1920
01:21:05,679 --> 01:21:08,560
of 2026, an ordinance authorizing the

1921
01:21:08,560 --> 01:21:10,800
mayor of the city of Nagadish, Ronnie

1922
01:21:10,800 --> 01:21:13,840
Williams, to execute a lease in favor of

1923
01:21:13,840 --> 01:21:17,760
JL Aviation of that 24,500

1924
01:21:17,760 --> 01:21:21,280
square ft area shown and depicted on May

1925
01:21:21,280 --> 01:21:26,159
20 21 of 2026 survey Brandon C. Thornton

1926
01:21:26,159 --> 01:21:28,239
and further providing for advertising of

1927
01:21:28,239 --> 01:21:31,120
the lease and effective date. Whereas

1928
01:21:31,120 --> 01:21:33,679
further under the authority of Louisiana

1929
01:21:33,679 --> 01:21:36,320
Revised Statute 2135,

1930
01:21:36,320 --> 01:21:38,880
the city has offered a lease with a term

1931
01:21:38,880 --> 01:21:42,640
of 25 years with consideration of 12

1932
01:21:42,640 --> 01:21:48,239
cent per square foot of a 2 or $2,940

1933
01:21:48,239 --> 01:21:50,640
per year. All is set forth in an

1934
01:21:50,640 --> 01:21:52,960
attached lease agreement by and between

1935
01:21:52,960 --> 01:21:56,080
the city of negatives and JL Aviation

1936
01:21:56,080 --> 01:21:58,880
together with an option to renew for an

1937
01:21:58,880 --> 01:22:01,360
additional 25-year period. And this is

1938
01:22:01,360 --> 01:22:06,870
for introduction only.

1939
01:22:06,880 --> 01:22:10,470
Okay.

1940
01:22:10,480 --> 01:22:12,239
So, Ed, just kind of give me some

1941
01:22:12,239 --> 01:22:13,760
background here a minute.

1942
01:22:13,760 --> 01:22:16,960
>> Yeah. This uh is Jeff Lindcott. This J

1943
01:22:16,960 --> 01:22:19,920
as JL Aviation.

1944
01:22:19,920 --> 01:22:23,520
He is interested or he's ready to uh

1945
01:22:23,520 --> 01:22:26,000
move one of his businesses here to

1946
01:22:26,000 --> 01:22:27,520
Nackadish. And if you see the two

1947
01:22:27,520 --> 01:22:30,000
hangers in the kind of the upper left

1948
01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:32,880
corner, the two tan hangers, his hanger

1949
01:22:32,880 --> 01:22:35,199
will be like the next one further to

1950
01:22:35,199 --> 01:22:37,120
your left. It will be larger than either

1951
01:22:37,120 --> 01:22:38,639
one of those two hangers. It'll be the

1952
01:22:38,639 --> 01:22:40,560
largest building on the airport. It's be

1953
01:22:40,560 --> 01:22:44,800
a 100x 120 ft hanger. He has three

1954
01:22:44,800 --> 01:22:48,560
helicopters, two airplanes, and he does

1955
01:22:48,560 --> 01:22:52,320
it's all business. It's for um aerial

1956
01:22:52,320 --> 01:22:54,880
mapping. He does with the helicopters.

1957
01:22:54,880 --> 01:22:57,199
He does the aerial mapping like low and

1958
01:22:57,199 --> 01:23:02,159
slow and down to the detail where um oh

1959
01:23:02,159 --> 01:23:05,280
god, what's his name? Don Cumins at Air

1960
01:23:05,280 --> 01:23:07,920
Data Solutions. He does his aerial

1961
01:23:07,920 --> 01:23:11,520
survey in much higher and faster in

1962
01:23:11,520 --> 01:23:13,440
airplanes. So this will be lower and

1963
01:23:13,440 --> 01:23:16,320
slower and um I don't know the

1964
01:23:16,320 --> 01:23:17,920
difference in the detail if one will be

1965
01:23:17,920 --> 01:23:19,199
better than the other but they're not

1966
01:23:19,199 --> 01:23:20,960
they won't be competing against each

1967
01:23:20,960 --> 01:23:22,800
other in a way they'll be actually

1968
01:23:22,800 --> 01:23:25,440
complenting each other and this will be

1969
01:23:25,440 --> 01:23:30,320
a good u good addition to the airport

1970
01:23:30,320 --> 01:23:32,000
>> how many you know how many vacancies we

1971
01:23:32,000 --> 01:23:34,239
have now

1972
01:23:34,239 --> 01:23:36,639
>> you mean as far as vac openings for

1973
01:23:36,639 --> 01:23:38,480
airplanes we're full with airplanes

1974
01:23:38,480 --> 01:23:40,400
>> okay in terms of hangers

1975
01:23:40,400 --> 01:23:41,600
>> space and hangers Yeah,

1976
01:23:41,600 --> 01:23:43,520
>> that are already built. But you we could

1977
01:23:43,520 --> 01:23:44,960
build more.

1978
01:23:44,960 --> 01:23:47,360
>> And we're working on uh it's a slow

1979
01:23:47,360 --> 01:23:48,960
process, but we're working on building

1980
01:23:48,960 --> 01:23:50,719
another set of tea hangers.

1981
01:23:50,719 --> 01:23:51,520
>> Okay.

1982
01:23:51,520 --> 01:23:52,960
>> But that's probably three or four years

1983
01:23:52,960 --> 01:23:55,679
off before all the FAA funding and

1984
01:23:55,679 --> 01:23:58,880
everything gets in place.

1985
01:23:58,880 --> 01:24:00,320
>> Hey, it's good to be full.

1986
01:24:00,320 --> 01:24:00,800
>> Yeah,

1987
01:24:00,800 --> 01:24:02,960
>> good to be full.

1988
01:24:02,960 --> 01:24:06,639
Any questions, comments, council?

1989
01:24:06,639 --> 01:24:08,960
All right. So, we'll see this in our

1990
01:24:08,960 --> 01:24:11,440
first meeting in September. We'll see

1991
01:24:11,440 --> 01:24:12,480
this back.

1992
01:24:12,480 --> 01:24:15,600
>> Okay. All right. We've got another item

1993
01:24:15,600 --> 01:24:17,280
that has already been referenced a few

1994
01:24:17,280 --> 01:24:19,840
times tonight um for introduction and

1995
01:24:19,840 --> 01:24:21,520
Councilman Harrington is in charge of

1996
01:24:21,520 --> 01:24:24,800
this one. This is ordinance 31 of 2026.

1997
01:24:24,800 --> 01:24:26,880
An ordinance establishing a six-month

1998
01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:29,760
moratorum upon the consideration receipt

1999
01:24:29,760 --> 01:24:33,040
andor processing of all future impending

2000
01:24:33,040 --> 01:24:35,040
applications for placement of a mural in

2001
01:24:35,040 --> 01:24:36,320
the historic district of the city of

2002
01:24:36,320 --> 01:24:39,360
Nacades setting a public hearing date

2003
01:24:39,360 --> 01:24:41,120
and further providing with respect there

2004
01:24:41,120 --> 01:24:43,280
too. Whereas the city of Nakage finds it

2005
01:24:43,280 --> 01:24:44,639
necessary to oppose an immediate

2006
01:24:44,639 --> 01:24:46,560
moratorium on the consideration, receipt

2007
01:24:46,560 --> 01:24:49,840
or processing of all applications for

2008
01:24:49,840 --> 01:24:51,600
any license or permit for the placement

2009
01:24:51,600 --> 01:24:53,520
of murals in the historic district of

2010
01:24:53,520 --> 01:24:55,760
the city of Nacades in order to provide

2011
01:24:55,760 --> 01:24:57,920
time to research and possibly the

2012
01:24:57,920 --> 01:24:59,920
development of and implementation of an

2013
01:24:59,920 --> 01:25:00,880
ordinance that will provide

2014
01:25:00,880 --> 01:25:03,280
clarification for the regulation and

2015
01:25:03,280 --> 01:25:05,600
permitting of murals in the Nacadus

2016
01:25:05,600 --> 01:25:08,239
Historic District. And whereas further

2017
01:25:08,239 --> 01:25:10,480
an issue has recently come before the

2018
01:25:10,480 --> 01:25:12,159
Nacadesh historic district commission

2019
01:25:12,159 --> 01:25:13,840
regarding the placement of a mural

2020
01:25:13,840 --> 01:25:15,920
within the Nacades Historic District and

2021
01:25:15,920 --> 01:25:17,199
questions been raised regarding the

2022
01:25:17,199 --> 01:25:19,360
regulation of murals under the current

2023
01:25:19,360 --> 01:25:21,120
historic district ordinance and the

2024
01:25:21,120 --> 01:25:23,199
possible impact that a mural may have to

2025
01:25:23,199 --> 01:25:24,719
the character of the district and

2026
01:25:24,719 --> 01:25:26,239
possible impact to the current

2027
01:25:26,239 --> 01:25:29,199
designation of the district as a

2028
01:25:29,199 --> 01:25:32,960
landmark district. And whereas further

2029
01:25:32,960 --> 01:25:34,960
the city council's opinion, it is in the

2030
01:25:34,960 --> 01:25:36,239
interest of the citizens of the city of

2031
01:25:36,239 --> 01:25:38,639
Nacades as well as a Nacadesh historic

2032
01:25:38,639 --> 01:25:40,639
district to undertake research aimed at

2033
01:25:40,639 --> 01:25:42,639
the possible development of an ordinance

2034
01:25:42,639 --> 01:25:44,080
that will provide for clear and

2035
01:25:44,080 --> 01:25:46,639
objective standards and regulations that

2036
01:25:46,639 --> 01:25:48,480
protect the historic character of this

2037
01:25:48,480 --> 01:25:51,040
Nacades historic district which ensuring

2038
01:25:51,040 --> 01:25:52,800
that any regulations comply with

2039
01:25:52,800 --> 01:25:55,679
applicable constitutional requirements.

2040
01:25:55,679 --> 01:25:58,080
And whereas further the city council of

2041
01:25:58,080 --> 01:25:59,520
the city of Nacish would like to

2042
01:25:59,520 --> 01:26:01,760
research and study how other historic

2043
01:26:01,760 --> 01:26:04,080
districts regulate and enforce murals

2044
01:26:04,080 --> 01:26:06,239
and review guidelines from the United

2045
01:26:06,239 --> 01:26:07,920
States Department of the Interior in

2046
01:26:07,920 --> 01:26:09,520
order to determine what guidelines,

2047
01:26:09,520 --> 01:26:11,040
standards, criteria, and other

2048
01:26:11,040 --> 01:26:13,520
procedures are necessary to regulate

2049
01:26:13,520 --> 01:26:16,159
murals in the Nacadus historic district.

2050
01:26:16,159 --> 01:26:18,400
And whereas further the city council of

2051
01:26:18,400 --> 01:26:20,000
the city of Nacadus has the authority to

2052
01:26:20,000 --> 01:26:22,000
adopt a moratorum for the purpose of

2053
01:26:22,000 --> 01:26:24,080
preserving the status quo while

2054
01:26:24,080 --> 01:26:26,239
guidelines, standards, criter criteria

2055
01:26:26,239 --> 01:26:28,480
and procedures are considered prepared

2056
01:26:28,480 --> 01:26:30,320
and adopted.

2057
01:26:30,320 --> 01:26:32,480
And now therefore, be it ordained that

2058
01:26:32,480 --> 01:26:34,239
the city of Nacadas hereby imposes a

2059
01:26:34,239 --> 01:26:36,320
moratorum upon the consideration,

2060
01:26:36,320 --> 01:26:39,199
receipt, and or processing of all future

2061
01:26:39,199 --> 01:26:41,360
applications or permits for placement of

2062
01:26:41,360 --> 01:26:43,199
murals in the Nacades historic district

2063
01:26:43,199 --> 01:26:45,520
for 6 months from the effective date of

2064
01:26:45,520 --> 01:26:47,600
this ordinance until the city has

2065
01:26:47,600 --> 01:26:49,520
completed its study and implemented any

2066
01:26:49,520 --> 01:26:51,679
changes deemed necessary. This is for

2067
01:26:51,679 --> 01:26:53,840
introduction only.

2068
01:26:53,840 --> 01:26:59,110
>> All right. Okay.

2069
01:26:59,120 --> 01:27:03,750
» Yeah.

2070
01:27:03,760 --> 01:27:05,679
And actually this is probably for the

2071
01:27:05,679 --> 01:27:10,400
city attorney. Um our commission meets

2072
01:27:10,400 --> 01:27:13,280
on September the 8th. There is an

2073
01:27:13,280 --> 01:27:16,320
application that has been put in for

2074
01:27:16,320 --> 01:27:19,040
another mural. How are we to address

2075
01:27:19,040 --> 01:27:21,679
this since you are requesting a

2076
01:27:21,679 --> 01:27:24,480
moratorum?

2077
01:27:24,480 --> 01:27:26,000
>> How often y'all meet?

2078
01:27:26,000 --> 01:27:28,159
>> We meet once a month.

2079
01:27:28,159 --> 01:27:31,040
>> Okay. The city council will meet after

2080
01:27:31,040 --> 01:27:33,040
we meet.

2081
01:27:33,040 --> 01:27:35,440
>> What is the next date of your meeting?

2082
01:27:35,440 --> 01:27:37,040
>> September

2083
01:27:37,040 --> 01:27:38,239
14th.

2084
01:27:38,239 --> 01:27:41,280
>> So we meet September the 8th.

2085
01:27:41,280 --> 01:27:44,000
>> Okay. Could y'all delay that until this

2086
01:27:44,000 --> 01:27:45,840
final vote?

2087
01:27:45,840 --> 01:27:47,840
>> I mean that would be I guess up to I

2088
01:27:47,840 --> 01:27:49,440
mean I can but

2089
01:27:49,440 --> 01:27:51,679
>> I don't I don't know your your rules on

2090
01:27:51,679 --> 01:27:53,280
your meetings. Is it

2091
01:27:53,280 --> 01:27:55,440
>> You mean can we delay our meeting is

2092
01:27:55,440 --> 01:27:56,960
what you're asking? Not not the meeting

2093
01:27:56,960 --> 01:27:58,880
except the the item that's on your

2094
01:27:58,880 --> 01:28:00,719
agenda.

2095
01:28:00,719 --> 01:28:03,910
>> Shantrell

2096
01:28:03,920 --> 01:28:05,840
» I don't know I this has never come up

2097
01:28:05,840 --> 01:28:07,600
before.

2098
01:28:07,600 --> 01:28:09,520
>> We can ask the applicant.

2099
01:28:09,520 --> 01:28:11,520
>> Yeah I can look or look at your rules

2100
01:28:11,520 --> 01:28:12,880
and it should

2101
01:28:12,880 --> 01:28:15,600
>> there's nothing in the rules about

2102
01:28:15,600 --> 01:28:16,880
this particular

2103
01:28:16,880 --> 01:28:19,360
>> No this is a agenda item that's on

2104
01:28:19,360 --> 01:28:21,679
>> this is an agenda it's on the agenda.

2105
01:28:21,679 --> 01:28:23,760
You can you could knowing that there's

2106
01:28:23,760 --> 01:28:25,360
new legislation coming from the city

2107
01:28:25,360 --> 01:28:26,639
council,

2108
01:28:26,639 --> 01:28:30,159
>> you could move to table that to wait for

2109
01:28:30,159 --> 01:28:32,080
the ruling the the vote for the city

2110
01:28:32,080 --> 01:28:32,880
council.

2111
01:28:32,880 --> 01:28:34,800
>> I just want to make sure whatever we do

2112
01:28:34,800 --> 01:28:36,159
is proper procedure.

2113
01:28:36,159 --> 01:28:38,320
>> I I think I would suggest

2114
01:28:38,320 --> 01:28:41,280
>> tableabling it and explain that to the

2115
01:28:41,280 --> 01:28:42,000
applicant.

2116
01:28:42,000 --> 01:28:42,880
>> Okay. Yeah.

2117
01:28:42,880 --> 01:28:46,239
>> Well, I I could to make it to clare to

2118
01:28:46,239 --> 01:28:49,199
make it more, you know, it might make it

2119
01:28:49,199 --> 01:28:52,560
easier is right now this says

2120
01:28:52,560 --> 01:28:55,040
um from the effective date of this

2121
01:28:55,040 --> 01:28:57,120
ordinance, which will mean the day we

2122
01:28:57,120 --> 01:28:59,760
vote on it. I could say a six-month

2123
01:28:59,760 --> 01:29:01,840
moratorum from the date of the

2124
01:29:01,840 --> 01:29:04,960
introduction of this ordinance.

2125
01:29:04,960 --> 01:29:07,360
>> Yeah. So once it's once it's voted on,

2126
01:29:07,360 --> 01:29:10,639
it'll be retroactive to today.

2127
01:29:10,639 --> 01:29:13,520
>> And that how you will vote on somebody's

2128
01:29:13,520 --> 01:29:15,920
application that's already been filed by

2129
01:29:15,920 --> 01:29:18,960
passing a law to retroactively impact an

2130
01:29:18,960 --> 01:29:20,800
application that's been filed. I don't

2131
01:29:20,800 --> 01:29:22,159
know how you do that.

2132
01:29:22,159 --> 01:29:23,679
>> And I don't know how you continue it

2133
01:29:23,679 --> 01:29:24,639
either then.

2134
01:29:24,639 --> 01:29:26,000
>> And I'll be deadly honest with you. This

2135
01:29:26,000 --> 01:29:30,080
is City Bank. They have been trying to

2136
01:29:30,080 --> 01:29:32,320
get this approved. They have not filed

2137
01:29:32,320 --> 01:29:34,560
an application for a long time, but they

2138
01:29:34,560 --> 01:29:38,080
have come and been working with insalter

2139
01:29:38,080 --> 01:29:40,960
for months and months trying to

2140
01:29:40,960 --> 01:29:42,960
formulate something that would be

2141
01:29:42,960 --> 01:29:44,880
acceptable to the commission and then

2142
01:29:44,880 --> 01:29:46,960
followed our rules.

2143
01:29:46,960 --> 01:29:48,880
See, we I I went and tal I went and

2144
01:29:48,880 --> 01:29:50,960
talked to them because I knew that in

2145
01:29:50,960 --> 01:29:52,880
the background we were trying to work

2146
01:29:52,880 --> 01:29:54,560
with some ordinance trying to get an

2147
01:29:54,560 --> 01:29:56,880
ordinance built for this and I asked

2148
01:29:56,880 --> 01:29:59,120
them to put it off and they were going

2149
01:29:59,120 --> 01:30:01,440
to come before they filed to come last

2150
01:30:01,440 --> 01:30:03,280
month and we said no, we need to wait

2151
01:30:03,280 --> 01:30:06,080
and see what the city council does. I'm

2152
01:30:06,080 --> 01:30:07,440
just trying, you know, I want to follow

2153
01:30:07,440 --> 01:30:09,040
all the rules. I want to make it easy

2154
01:30:09,040 --> 01:30:11,120
for them. I don't want to go through

2155
01:30:11,120 --> 01:30:12,639
this again. We've had to go through with

2156
01:30:12,639 --> 01:30:14,480
the tailor. It's not fair to us and it's

2157
01:30:14,480 --> 01:30:16,320
not fair to the applicant

2158
01:30:16,320 --> 01:30:17,920
>> and so I need advice.

2159
01:30:17,920 --> 01:30:20,320
>> Yeah, I would I would at your meeting

2160
01:30:20,320 --> 01:30:22,639
have a discussion about it and y'all can

2161
01:30:22,639 --> 01:30:24,960
move to to table it and tell the city

2162
01:30:24,960 --> 01:30:27,440
council to vote on the next legislation

2163
01:30:27,440 --> 01:30:28,639
since you know it's coming.

2164
01:30:28,639 --> 01:30:30,639
>> But I see what Jared's saying. They

2165
01:30:30,639 --> 01:30:33,679
filed under the current ordinances. So

2166
01:30:33,679 --> 01:30:36,320
their application is like the tailor or

2167
01:30:36,320 --> 01:30:39,360
under how the ordinances stand today. So

2168
01:30:39,360 --> 01:30:41,520
then how can they table it and then we

2169
01:30:41,520 --> 01:30:42,800
come back and say oh we changed the

2170
01:30:42,800 --> 01:30:43,920
ordinances now

2171
01:30:43,920 --> 01:30:45,360
>> what they filed

2172
01:30:45,360 --> 01:30:48,639
>> another issue is too they file an

2173
01:30:48,639 --> 01:30:50,800
application for a mural. Oh yeah.

2174
01:30:50,800 --> 01:30:53,280
>> Yes. And it's larger than that mural.

2175
01:30:53,280 --> 01:30:53,600
>> Okay.

2176
01:30:53,600 --> 01:30:55,120
>> Takes up the whole wall.

2177
01:30:55,120 --> 01:30:59,360
>> It's 18t tall, 37 feet wide.

2178
01:30:59,360 --> 01:31:00,639
>> Yeah. And that's the problem I thought

2179
01:31:00,639 --> 01:31:02,400
we were going to get into. People just

2180
01:31:02,400 --> 01:31:04,320
going to want to put up murals and you

2181
01:31:04,320 --> 01:31:05,600
have to have something. You open a

2182
01:31:05,600 --> 01:31:08,480
Pandora's open Pandora for other to do

2183
01:31:08,480 --> 01:31:10,320
this. But I would think that you all

2184
01:31:10,320 --> 01:31:12,400
would have the um

2185
01:31:12,400 --> 01:31:15,600
>> legal ability to just post I mean not

2186
01:31:15,600 --> 01:31:19,120
postpone but give let them know that

2187
01:31:19,120 --> 01:31:21,520
they that you're not

2188
01:31:21,520 --> 01:31:24,560
uh agreeing to give them a permit just

2189
01:31:24,560 --> 01:31:26,080
>> that's why I'm asking the city attorney

2190
01:31:26,080 --> 01:31:37,030
legally what can we do success

2191
01:31:37,040 --> 01:31:38,560
the only reason you're taking that

2192
01:31:38,560 --> 01:31:40,159
applications because you know this is

2193
01:31:40,159 --> 01:31:42,239
going to get passed and so you want it

2194
01:31:42,239 --> 01:31:44,480
to apply to us. You really can't change

2195
01:31:44,480 --> 01:31:46,560
the rules of the game after it started

2196
01:31:46,560 --> 01:31:49,040
and from their standpoint the game

2197
01:31:49,040 --> 01:31:50,080
started when they filed their

2198
01:31:50,080 --> 01:31:51,120
application.

2199
01:31:51,120 --> 01:31:53,920
>> So the rules should be defined based on

2200
01:31:53,920 --> 01:31:56,239
what they were what the rules existed as

2201
01:31:56,239 --> 01:31:58,719
the time the application was filed. And

2202
01:31:58,719 --> 01:32:01,280
so that's why one of the reasons I

2203
01:32:01,280 --> 01:32:03,360
cautioned about allowing murals in the

2204
01:32:03,360 --> 01:32:05,600
first place because I don't think we're

2205
01:32:05,600 --> 01:32:07,520
now going to be able to say, "Oh,

2206
01:32:07,520 --> 01:32:10,560
that's, you know, that's not good art.

2207
01:32:10,560 --> 01:32:12,880
It's just going to be, hey, we allow

2208
01:32:12,880 --> 01:32:15,920
murals. The murals

2209
01:32:15,920 --> 01:32:17,440
get approved.

2210
01:32:17,440 --> 01:32:19,760
>> I want to see a more in place."

2211
01:32:19,760 --> 01:32:22,320
>> I could just take a look at y'all rules.

2212
01:32:22,320 --> 01:32:22,800
>> Pardon me?

2213
01:32:22,800 --> 01:32:24,560
>> I could take a look at y'all rules

2214
01:32:24,560 --> 01:32:27,199
before your meeting.

2215
01:32:27,199 --> 01:32:27,520
>> Okay. Okay.

2216
01:32:27,520 --> 01:32:29,120
>> Cuz you said this is a bigger one. This

2217
01:32:29,120 --> 01:32:30,800
is already already made and this is

2218
01:32:30,800 --> 01:32:31,760
being introduced.

2219
01:32:31,760 --> 01:32:33,760
>> This one uh Mr. Taylor, do you remember

2220
01:32:33,760 --> 01:32:36,159
the size of this mural?

2221
01:32:36,159 --> 01:32:37,360
>> 8 ft by 24.

2222
01:32:37,360 --> 01:32:38,080
>> Pardon me.

2223
01:32:38,080 --> 01:32:39,360
>> 8 ft by

2224
01:32:39,360 --> 01:32:42,000
>> 8 ft.

2225
01:32:42,000 --> 01:32:45,360
by 24 ft. Okay. Theirs is 24 ft

2226
01:32:45,360 --> 01:32:49,280
long. This one is 37t long. Okay.

2227
01:32:49,280 --> 01:32:51,679
>> Theirs is 4t tall.

2228
01:32:51,679 --> 01:32:52,480
>> 8 ft tall.

2229
01:32:52,480 --> 01:32:56,320
This is 18t tall.

2230
01:32:56,320 --> 01:32:58,239
>> Mhm. And it's on the side of your

2231
01:32:58,239 --> 01:33:00,320
building.

2232
01:33:00,320 --> 01:33:01,840
>> It's not if they own that side of the

2233
01:33:01,840 --> 01:33:04,800
building, but that's where it's located.

2234
01:33:04,800 --> 01:33:06,880
>> So, we're in a conundrum again.

2235
01:33:06,880 --> 01:33:07,440
>> Yeah.

2236
01:33:07,440 --> 01:33:09,199
>> What do we do?

2237
01:33:09,199 --> 01:33:11,600
>> We're back to square one.

2238
01:33:11,600 --> 01:33:14,800
>> So, were you going to approve this one?

2239
01:33:14,800 --> 01:33:15,600
That's the question.

2240
01:33:15,600 --> 01:33:16,960
>> Who's talking? Oh, I'm sorry.

2241
01:33:16,960 --> 01:33:19,600
>> Me, Councilwoman.

2242
01:33:19,600 --> 01:33:20,719
>> I'm sorry. I couldn't I knew it was a

2243
01:33:20,719 --> 01:33:21,760
lady. I couldn't find you.

2244
01:33:21,760 --> 01:33:22,880
>> Our current ordinances don't say

2245
01:33:22,880 --> 01:33:24,320
anything about size or anything. That's

2246
01:33:24,320 --> 01:33:26,639
why we have that's why you got to get

2247
01:33:26,639 --> 01:33:28,719
this as far as sizing and everything.

2248
01:33:28,719 --> 01:33:30,560
>> They've already appi they've already

2249
01:33:30,560 --> 01:33:33,280
they've slipped in your question. Would

2250
01:33:33,280 --> 01:33:35,600
I have voted to approve the application?

2251
01:33:35,600 --> 01:33:37,679
Absolutely not. I don't think I think

2252
01:33:37,679 --> 01:33:39,360
it's a hor it's a horrible idea to allow

2253
01:33:39,360 --> 01:33:40,960
me

2254
01:33:40,960 --> 01:33:44,560
the first place and so I I just don't I

2255
01:33:44,560 --> 01:33:46,639
wouldn't have done it. I think the vast

2256
01:33:46,639 --> 01:33:48,320
majority I can't speak for him but based

2257
01:33:48,320 --> 01:33:49,840
on observations that I have I don't

2258
01:33:49,840 --> 01:33:52,159
think hardly anybody on that commission

2259
01:33:52,159 --> 01:33:54,719
>> I would be concerned because of the size

2260
01:33:54,719 --> 01:33:58,000
that it would not not pass and when I

2261
01:33:58,000 --> 01:34:00,400
started conversation with city bank

2262
01:34:00,400 --> 01:34:04,639
months ago I told Josh that they could

2263
01:34:04,639 --> 01:34:06,880
apply as a sign because they are

2264
01:34:06,880 --> 01:34:09,440
grandfathered in from the fact that they

2265
01:34:09,440 --> 01:34:12,639
already have two existing signs painted

2266
01:34:12,639 --> 01:34:15,840
on their building. And I said, Josh, if

2267
01:34:15,840 --> 01:34:17,840
you take the two signs and put them

2268
01:34:17,840 --> 01:34:23,040
together, that would be adequate, that would be grandfathered in because

2269
01:34:23,040 --> 01:34:24,639
that's what you had before. They're

2270
01:34:24,639 --> 01:34:28,000
eliminating the two making one. And that

2271
01:34:28,000 --> 01:34:30,159
would be the size to me that would be

2272
01:34:30,159 --> 01:34:32,400
allowable under the grandfather clause.

2273
01:34:32,400 --> 01:34:33,920
And they're grandfathered in because

2274
01:34:33,920 --> 01:34:36,080
it's been up there, I don't know, 40, 50

2275
01:34:36,080 --> 01:34:38,080
years. It's been up there forever, you

2276
01:34:38,080 --> 01:34:42,639
know. So, but now because of this, I

2277
01:34:42,639 --> 01:34:45,280
need to know legally what I can do.

2278
01:34:45,280 --> 01:34:48,000
>> Yeah. I think you if your rules don't

2279
01:34:48,000 --> 01:34:50,639
allow for you to delay it, I think you

2280
01:34:50,639 --> 01:34:52,639
make a decision and maybe we end up with

2281
01:34:52,639 --> 01:34:54,880
an appeal here again and then we can

2282
01:34:54,880 --> 01:34:57,120
address whether or not the moratorum

2283
01:34:57,120 --> 01:34:59,920
suspends the action that was taken by

2284
01:34:59,920 --> 01:35:00,480
your

2285
01:35:00,480 --> 01:35:04,159
>> some guidance about I mean, how are we

2286
01:35:04,159 --> 01:35:11,040
supposed to evaluate this. I mean, we have specific

2287
01:35:11,040 --> 01:35:13,840
rules. We just didn't think these were

2288
01:35:13,840 --> 01:35:16,560
prohibited and so we just weren't going

2289
01:35:16,560 --> 01:35:18,560
to approve it. I mean, are we supposed

2290
01:35:18,560 --> 01:35:21,520
to consider the quality of the artwork

2291
01:35:21,520 --> 01:35:24,159
that's done, the color of it? I mean, I

2292
01:35:24,159 --> 01:35:26,560
don't know how, you know, whether or not

2293
01:35:26,560 --> 01:35:29,679
it comply or it complements the rest of

2294
01:35:29,679 --> 01:35:31,760
the community. I just don't know how

2295
01:35:31,760 --> 01:35:33,520
we're supposed to evaluate city banks

2296
01:35:33,520 --> 01:35:36,239
applications. We don't have any rules to

2297
01:35:36,239 --> 01:35:38,560
apply to their application.

2298
01:35:38,560 --> 01:35:40,320
>> Yeah. And currently, that's the reason

2299
01:35:40,320 --> 01:35:42,400
we're doing this. You It's vague.

2300
01:35:42,400 --> 01:35:44,000
Darness is vague.

2301
01:35:44,000 --> 01:35:46,400
>> So, we got to deal with it where it is.

2302
01:35:46,400 --> 01:35:48,800
>> So, you see how we were a month ago.

2303
01:35:48,800 --> 01:35:49,120
>> Yeah.

2304
01:35:49,120 --> 01:35:51,440
We have no guidance and that's why

2305
01:35:51,440 --> 01:35:51,920
we're here.

2306
01:35:51,920 --> 01:35:52,719
>> See now,

2307
01:35:52,719 --> 01:35:55,360
>> I don't I think the definition of a

2308
01:35:55,360 --> 01:36:03,270
significant

2309
01:36:03,280 --> 01:36:06,709
is

2310
01:36:06,719 --> 01:36:08,320
It's not. Yeah, it's not. Well, it's

2311
01:36:08,320 --> 01:36:10,560
not. Murals is not in the ordinance.

2312
01:36:10,560 --> 01:36:11,679
Okay. So, it's not but it's not

2313
01:36:11,679 --> 01:36:13,600
prohibited either.

2314
01:36:13,600 --> 01:36:16,239
>> We do have definition because we

2315
01:36:16,239 --> 01:36:17,920
required to get approval of every

2316
01:36:17,920 --> 01:36:19,600
alteration

2317
01:36:19,600 --> 01:36:21,360
>> if that type of addition is not

2318
01:36:21,360 --> 01:36:22,800
permitted under the rules. I think by

2319
01:36:22,800 --> 01:36:24,239
definition it's not allowed,

2320
01:36:24,239 --> 01:36:25,760
>> right?

2321
01:36:25,760 --> 01:36:28,960
>> Default to to not allowing it. But I we

2322
01:36:28,960 --> 01:36:30,800
just want to make sure when we're

2323
01:36:30,800 --> 01:36:33,040
dealing with city bank on our next

2324
01:36:33,040 --> 01:36:35,120
meeting that we don't do something

2325
01:36:35,120 --> 01:36:36,719
because they really want that sign up

2326
01:36:36,719 --> 01:36:37,520
there

2327
01:36:37,520 --> 01:36:40,800
>> and we tell them no

2328
01:36:40,800 --> 01:36:43,360
that we don't uh turn around and get the

2329
01:36:43,360 --> 01:36:46,480
city sued. We don't we're trying to call

2330
01:36:46,480 --> 01:36:48,639
less problem. So

2331
01:36:48,639 --> 01:36:49,280
>> okay.

2332
01:36:49,280 --> 01:36:50,880
>> Yeah. I think you make your decision if

2333
01:36:50,880 --> 01:36:52,080
we can't

2334
01:36:52,080 --> 01:36:52,800
>> no other way.

2335
01:36:52,800 --> 01:36:53,520
>> All right. Thank you.

2336
01:36:53,520 --> 01:36:54,480
>> Just the process.

2337
01:36:54,480 --> 01:36:56,159
>> All right. Thank you.

2338
01:36:56,159 --> 01:36:57,679
>> Okay. And again, this is just

2339
01:36:57,679 --> 01:36:59,280
introduction,

2340
01:36:59,280 --> 01:37:01,119
so we have a little time to think about

2341
01:37:01,119 --> 01:37:04,080
this some more, and it'll be on our

2342
01:37:04,080 --> 01:37:07,360
September 14th meeting. Okay.

2343
01:37:07,360 --> 01:37:10,960
>> Yep. Okay. All right. We have two

2344
01:37:10,960 --> 01:37:13,280
resolutions left

2345
01:37:13,280 --> 01:37:16,400
and the first resolution is read by

2346
01:37:16,400 --> 01:37:18,719
Councilwoman Laura Smith, Kirk.

2347
01:37:18,719 --> 01:37:21,280
>> Thank you, Mayor. This is a resolution

2348
01:37:21,280 --> 01:37:24,960
number 059 of 2026.

2349
01:37:24,960 --> 01:37:28,080
A resolution approving a temporary site

2350
01:37:28,080 --> 01:37:31,199
license with new singular wireless PCS

2351
01:37:31,199 --> 01:37:33,119
and authorizing the mayor of the city of

2352
01:37:33,119 --> 01:37:35,840
Nacage, Ronnie Williams Jr. to execute

2353
01:37:35,840 --> 01:37:38,159
same on behalf of the city of Nacage.

2354
01:37:38,159 --> 01:37:40,719
Whereas the city has has negotiated a

2355
01:37:40,719 --> 01:37:43,760
temporary site license with the new

2356
01:37:43,760 --> 01:37:46,080
Singular Wireless

2357
01:37:46,080 --> 01:37:49,360
PCS LLC,

2358
01:37:49,360 --> 01:37:51,760
referred to as Singular, which will

2359
01:37:51,760 --> 01:37:55,119
allow Singular to temporarily locate

2360
01:37:55,119 --> 01:37:57,119
communications transmitting and

2361
01:37:57,119 --> 01:37:58,960
receiving equipment on property of the

2362
01:37:58,960 --> 01:38:02,719
city of Nakage. Whereas the whereas the

2363
01:38:02,719 --> 01:38:04,480
agreement would provide for improved

2364
01:38:04,480 --> 01:38:06,800
communications for citizens of and

2365
01:38:06,800 --> 01:38:09,360
visitors to the city of Nackis during a

2366
01:38:09,360 --> 01:38:12,320
period increased tourism from October

2367
01:38:12,320 --> 01:38:14,800
3rd, 2026

2368
01:38:14,800 --> 01:38:18,080
through January 9, 2027.

2369
01:38:18,080 --> 01:38:20,239
And whereas further the city council

2370
01:38:20,239 --> 01:38:23,679
this is,

2371
01:38:23,679 --> 01:38:25,520
excuse me, whereas further the city

2372
01:38:25,520 --> 01:38:27,199
council

2373
01:38:27,199 --> 01:38:28,960
is of the opinion that the agreement

2374
01:38:28,960 --> 01:38:31,199
will be beneficial to the citizens of

2375
01:38:31,199 --> 01:38:34,080
the city of Nacanish as well as visitors

2376
01:38:34,080 --> 01:38:37,280
to the city as the increase in effective

2377
01:38:37,280 --> 01:38:40,320
cellular communication will result in an

2378
01:38:40,320 --> 01:38:42,480
increased safety of citizens and

2379
01:38:42,480 --> 01:38:44,639
visitors as well as convenience to

2380
01:38:44,639 --> 01:38:47,440
citizens and visitors. And whereas

2381
01:38:47,440 --> 01:38:49,600
further the city council of the city of

2382
01:38:49,600 --> 01:38:53,040
Nakash hereby has reviewed and approved

2383
01:38:53,040 --> 01:38:56,480
the attached temporary site license.

2384
01:38:56,480 --> 01:38:58,719
Now therefore be it resolved by the city

2385
01:38:58,719 --> 01:39:01,760
council consider the attached temporary

2386
01:39:01,760 --> 01:39:04,880
license. I I move uh well this is just

2387
01:39:04,880 --> 01:39:07,119
for introduction.

2388
01:39:07,119 --> 01:39:07,520
So

2389
01:39:07,520 --> 01:39:10,400
>> no it's a resolution. So it's it's you

2390
01:39:10,400 --> 01:39:11,199
could

2391
01:39:11,199 --> 01:39:12,400
>> introduction.

2392
01:39:12,400 --> 01:39:13,760
>> No it's resolution.

2393
01:39:13,760 --> 01:39:15,360
>> No you can vote on it. Yeah you can

2394
01:39:15,360 --> 01:39:18,480
motion. Whereas further the city council

2395
01:39:18,480 --> 01:39:21,760
um of NASA Louisiana has reviewed and

2396
01:39:21,760 --> 01:39:23,280
approved the attached temporary site

2397
01:39:23,280 --> 01:39:26,000
license and desires to authorize the

2398
01:39:26,000 --> 01:39:28,880
mayor Ronda Williams Jr. to execute same

2399
01:39:28,880 --> 01:39:31,520
and therefore now be resolved by the

2400
01:39:31,520 --> 01:39:33,440
city council of the city of Nackage that

2401
01:39:33,440 --> 01:39:35,600
the attend that the attached temporary

2402
01:39:35,600 --> 01:39:38,239
site license is approved and that the

2403
01:39:38,239 --> 01:39:40,000
mayor of the city of Nakage Ronda

2404
01:39:40,000 --> 01:39:42,719
Williams Jr. is hereby authorized to

2405
01:39:42,719 --> 01:39:44,880
execute the attached temporary site

2406
01:39:44,880 --> 01:39:46,800
license. So I move for adoption

2407
01:39:46,800 --> 01:39:49,840
resolution number 059 2026.

2408
01:39:49,840 --> 01:39:52,560
>> Second motion made and seconded. Ed, I

2409
01:39:52,560 --> 01:39:54,239
know this is something we do every year,

2410
01:39:54,239 --> 01:39:54,719
right?

2411
01:39:54,719 --> 01:39:56,080
>> Yeah, we've been doing this for many

2412
01:39:56,080 --> 01:39:58,159
years. All the infrastructure is in

2413
01:39:58,159 --> 01:40:00,080
place. All they have to do is bring

2414
01:40:00,080 --> 01:40:03,119
their covered trailer, plug it in, hook

2415
01:40:03,119 --> 01:40:05,520
up their electric meter, raise their

2416
01:40:05,520 --> 01:40:07,360
antenna. And I'm I'm sure I'm

2417
01:40:07,360 --> 01:40:09,760
oversimplifying it, but it's been there

2418
01:40:09,760 --> 01:40:11,920
since they've been doing this for

2419
01:40:11,920 --> 01:40:13,920
probably close to 20 years now, just

2420
01:40:13,920 --> 01:40:15,040
guessing. Every year

2421
01:40:15,040 --> 01:40:17,840
>> support Christmas festival day or

2422
01:40:17,840 --> 01:40:19,040
>> throughout the season?

2423
01:40:19,040 --> 01:40:20,719
>> The the whole season. They'll put it up

2424
01:40:20,719 --> 01:40:22,560
in October and they'll take it down in

2425
01:40:22,560 --> 01:40:24,320
January. And it's

2426
01:40:24,320 --> 01:40:27,360
>> u some of y'all may recall at Christmas

2427
01:40:27,360 --> 01:40:28,960
Festival, you use your phone, you can't

2428
01:40:28,960 --> 01:40:32,080
get a signal, you can't call. This is to

2429
01:40:32,080 --> 01:40:36,639
boost um add I guess capacity to the

2430
01:40:36,639 --> 01:40:38,400
cell towers and make it easier for

2431
01:40:38,400 --> 01:40:41,520
people to be able to call, text, email,

2432
01:40:41,520 --> 01:40:44,159
whatever it is they do on their phone.

2433
01:40:44,159 --> 01:40:46,159
>> Yeah, it's pretty bad during Christmas

2434
01:40:46,159 --> 01:40:47,679
fest of time. You can't talk.

2435
01:40:47,679 --> 01:40:50,000
>> Yeah, this is supposed to help that

2436
01:40:50,000 --> 01:40:50,400
depend.

2437
01:40:50,400 --> 01:40:51,440
>> Has it been helping?

2438
01:40:51,440 --> 01:40:52,000
>> Pardon me.

2439
01:40:52,000 --> 01:40:53,119
>> It's been helping with that.

2440
01:40:53,119 --> 01:40:53,760
>> Oh yeah.

2441
01:40:53,760 --> 01:40:54,960
>> Yeah.

2442
01:40:54,960 --> 01:40:57,679
>> I can remember years ago. I mean, you

2443
01:40:57,679 --> 01:40:59,040
just couldn't you couldn't even get out.

2444
01:40:59,040 --> 01:41:00,639
So, this has been helpful.

2445
01:41:00,639 --> 01:41:02,800
>> Okay. I guess I'm trying to stream the

2446
01:41:02,800 --> 01:41:04,800
SEC game and then always let me stream

2447
01:41:04,800 --> 01:41:05,600
that, though. But

2448
01:41:05,600 --> 01:41:07,600
>> yeah, but everything's in place. All

2449
01:41:07,600 --> 01:41:10,080
they have to do is is pull up, hook up,

2450
01:41:10,080 --> 01:41:12,159
and and go. And they paid for all the

2451
01:41:12,159 --> 01:41:14,159
infrastructure. The city did, and they

2452
01:41:14,159 --> 01:41:17,600
did this many years ago.

2453
01:41:17,600 --> 01:41:21,520
>> Okay. Any other questions?

2454
01:41:21,520 --> 01:41:23,040
>> All right. There's something we've been

2455
01:41:23,040 --> 01:41:25,520
doing that we need to do. All right. Uh,

2456
01:41:25,520 --> 01:41:28,080
Mrs. Stacy, roll call vote. Eli,

2457
01:41:28,080 --> 01:41:28,560
>> yes.

2458
01:41:28,560 --> 01:41:29,199
>> Nelson,

2459
01:41:29,199 --> 01:41:29,600
>> yes.

2460
01:41:29,600 --> 01:41:30,800
>> Smith, Perkendall,

2461
01:41:30,800 --> 01:41:31,199
>> yes.

2462
01:41:31,199 --> 01:41:31,920
>> Harington,

2463
01:41:31,920 --> 01:41:32,239
>> yes.

2464
01:41:32,239 --> 01:41:32,800
>> PT,

2465
01:41:32,800 --> 01:41:34,800
>> yes. All right, that motion carries.

2466
01:41:34,800 --> 01:41:37,520
Last resolution of the night. Then we

2467
01:41:37,520 --> 01:41:39,520
just have a few announcements is

2468
01:41:39,520 --> 01:41:41,679
Councilwoman Washington Eli.

2469
01:41:41,679 --> 01:41:43,920
>> Thank you, Mayor. I'm going to read

2470
01:41:43,920 --> 01:41:45,920
title only, which we already know what

2471
01:41:45,920 --> 01:41:48,719
the home room charter states at section

2472
01:41:48,719 --> 01:41:50,719
48.

2473
01:41:50,719 --> 01:41:52,719
Uh resolution

2474
01:41:52,719 --> 01:41:56,560
060 of 2026, a resolution confirming

2475
01:41:56,560 --> 01:41:58,960
that appointed of Blake Dawson as the

2476
01:41:58,960 --> 01:42:00,960
recreation

2477
01:42:00,960 --> 01:42:04,000
department for the city of Nagish. And I

2478
01:42:04,000 --> 01:42:07,199
move to adopt resolution number 60,

2479
01:42:07,199 --> 01:42:09,119
2026.

2480
01:42:09,119 --> 01:42:09,920
>> Second.

2481
01:42:09,920 --> 01:42:12,960
>> Motion made and seconded. Um Blake, I

2482
01:42:12,960 --> 01:42:16,239
think council, y'all have his resume and

2483
01:42:16,239 --> 01:42:18,560
um I think another document that I I

2484
01:42:18,560 --> 01:42:20,400
sent over there to you. I sent to you

2485
01:42:20,400 --> 01:42:24,800
via email. But um Blake has been with

2486
01:42:24,800 --> 01:42:28,239
the city parks and wreck. Now we're

2487
01:42:28,239 --> 01:42:31,520
approaching seven years. Um it will be a

2488
01:42:31,520 --> 01:42:34,560
seamless transition. Um for Blake to do

2489
01:42:34,560 --> 01:42:37,280
it, he's got an education background. I

2490
01:42:37,280 --> 01:42:38,800
think teachers can do anything they want

2491
01:42:38,800 --> 01:42:41,280
to do. So I think they're great at just

2492
01:42:41,280 --> 01:42:42,800
about everything. Train them a little

2493
01:42:42,800 --> 01:42:47,760
bit. But um yeah, so

2494
01:42:47,760 --> 01:42:51,360
people know him in the community. Um

2495
01:42:51,360 --> 01:42:54,000
although he's not from here, he's been

2496
01:42:54,000 --> 01:42:56,320
here for how long, Blake?

2497
01:42:56,320 --> 01:42:57,040
>> 20 years.

2498
01:42:57,040 --> 01:42:59,199
That's half That's more than

2499
01:42:59,199 --> 01:43:00,000
half your life.

2500
01:43:00,000 --> 01:43:00,880
>> That's right.

2501
01:43:00,880 --> 01:43:02,960
>> Right about half your life. Okay. All

2502
01:43:02,960 --> 01:43:05,280
right. So Blake, any remarks you'd like

2503
01:43:05,280 --> 01:43:06,159
to make at this time?

2504
01:43:06,159 --> 01:43:07,920
>> Uh just thank you. Thank you for your

2505
01:43:07,920 --> 01:43:09,360
appointment. Uh it's not something I

2506
01:43:09,360 --> 01:43:11,119
take lightly and thank you city council

2507
01:43:11,119 --> 01:43:14,719
for your support and your confidence.

2508
01:43:14,719 --> 01:43:17,199
>> Right. Okie dokie. Any comments or

2509
01:43:17,199 --> 01:43:23,430
questions?

2510
01:43:23,440 --> 01:43:27,199
» Okay. Seeing now Mr. Stacy. Roll call.

2511
01:43:27,199 --> 01:43:27,840
>> Yes.

2512
01:43:27,840 --> 01:43:28,560
>> Nelson.

2513
01:43:28,560 --> 01:43:29,040
>> Yes.

2514
01:43:29,040 --> 01:43:30,320
>> Smith Kirkind Doll.

2515
01:43:30,320 --> 01:43:30,719
>> Yes.

2516
01:43:30,719 --> 01:43:31,440
>> Harrington.

2517
01:43:31,440 --> 01:43:31,840
>> Yes.

2518
01:43:31,840 --> 01:43:32,400
>> PT.

2519
01:43:32,400 --> 01:43:32,800
>> Yes.

2520
01:43:32,800 --> 01:43:34,560
>> All right. That motion carries. Blake is

2521
01:43:34,560 --> 01:43:35,840
going to do a great job for city and

2522
01:43:35,840 --> 01:43:38,000
agonist parks and recck. All right. Uh

2523
01:43:38,000 --> 01:43:40,560
our next meeting is on the 14th. All

2524
01:43:40,560 --> 01:43:42,719
right. And then we're closed. Wanted to

2525
01:43:42,719 --> 01:43:45,440
say we're closed on next Friday. That's

2526
01:43:45,440 --> 01:43:47,840
that employee appreciation day. And then

2527
01:43:47,840 --> 01:43:50,159
also we're closed for Labor Day. So we

2528
01:43:50,159 --> 01:43:52,080
kind of give a long weekend, a longer

2529
01:43:52,080 --> 01:43:54,639
weekend there. All right. We always

2530
01:43:54,639 --> 01:43:57,440
encourage people to download the goatish

2531
01:43:57,440 --> 01:44:00,400
download um regroup because that's where

2532
01:44:00,400 --> 01:44:06,880
we put road closures, blockages, street blockages if you will,

2533
01:44:06,880 --> 01:44:09,440
streets that are being blocked off. Uh

2534
01:44:09,440 --> 01:44:11,440
the Cane River Zadico Festival, as I

2535
01:44:11,440 --> 01:44:13,360
said, we dropped the video today where,

2536
01:44:13,360 --> 01:44:14,880
you know, Bigfoot is going to be in town

2537
01:44:14,880 --> 01:44:16,560
in a couple days. I mean, actual

2538
01:44:16,560 --> 01:44:18,960
Bigfoot, I'm being serious. and uh we're

2539
01:44:18,960 --> 01:44:21,520
going to record a video with him and uh

2540
01:44:21,520 --> 01:44:23,280
he's said he's going to go somewhere and

2541
01:44:23,280 --> 01:44:26,000
come back Labor Day weekend, but we do

2542
01:44:26,000 --> 01:44:27,360
have the festival. He's going to be here

2543
01:44:27,360 --> 01:44:29,199
on Labor Day weekend, Septe September

2544
01:44:29,199 --> 01:44:32,800
5th. And this is the third annual from 9

2545
01:44:32,800 --> 01:44:34,400
to 6 p.m. So, we got two things

2546
01:44:34,400 --> 01:44:37,360
happening. Zadico Fest, it's free that

2547
01:44:37,360 --> 01:44:40,719
Friday night to Zadico Fest only $20

2548
01:44:40,719 --> 01:44:43,440
that Saturday. Um, I know they're having

2549
01:44:43,440 --> 01:44:46,000
Rusty Matuire and I know you're having

2550
01:44:46,000 --> 01:44:48,639
Marcus Aran on that particular night.

2551
01:44:48,639 --> 01:44:50,960
There's a poker run. Um, there's

2552
01:44:50,960 --> 01:44:53,760
Zadico's dance fest. And if you saw the

2553
01:44:53,760 --> 01:44:56,159
video today, you know, you know I'm I'm

2554
01:44:56,159 --> 01:44:58,480
going to be doing the Zadico dance fest,

2555
01:44:58,480 --> 01:45:00,320
whatever. Uh, dance competition, I think

2556
01:45:00,320 --> 01:45:03,040
it is. All right. Um, and then we also

2557
01:45:03,040 --> 01:45:04,400
have the Bigfoot Festival happening at

2558
01:45:04,400 --> 01:45:05,840
the Nagades Event Center from 9:00 to

2559
01:45:05,840 --> 01:45:07,679
6:00 p.m. So, uh, we're looking to get

2560
01:45:07,679 --> 01:45:10,800
people, uh, out to these, uh, events.

2561
01:45:10,800 --> 01:45:12,800
again shaping up to be a pretty busy

2562
01:45:12,800 --> 01:45:16,400
weekend. Again, that's next weekend.

2563
01:45:16,400 --> 01:45:19,119
>> All right. Then we have 25 years of the

2564
01:45:19,119 --> 01:45:21,600
Nacadesh Meepot Festival and we've

2565
01:45:21,600 --> 01:45:22,719
already talked about that with the

2566
01:45:22,719 --> 01:45:24,800
proclamation. We just ask people to come

2567
01:45:24,800 --> 01:45:26,560
out and we'll try to do what we can to

2568
01:45:26,560 --> 01:45:27,840
promote. I know they have a Facebook

2569
01:45:27,840 --> 01:45:29,760
page like these other organizations do,

2570
01:45:29,760 --> 01:45:31,280
but we'll do the best we can to help to

2571
01:45:31,280 --> 01:45:34,080
promote it. All right, sickale. You

2572
01:45:34,080 --> 01:45:35,840
heard Miss Judith earlier, Miss Judith

2573
01:45:35,840 --> 01:45:38,800
Hayes mention uh this event put on by

2574
01:45:38,800 --> 01:45:41,199
the Nagas alumni chapter of DEX Delta

2575
01:45:41,199 --> 01:45:43,840
Sigma Theta sorority. This is the third

2576
01:45:43,840 --> 01:45:46,800
annual sick cell uh awareness event is

2577
01:45:46,800 --> 01:45:49,119
at the outpatient medical clinic or I

2578
01:45:49,119 --> 01:45:50,960
think they're in collaboration with

2579
01:45:50,960 --> 01:45:53,280
let's see it's going to be at the MLK

2580
01:45:53,280 --> 01:45:56,880
Recreation Center from 10 to 12:00 p.m.

2581
01:45:56,880 --> 01:46:00,000
on um Meepot Festival Day uh September

2582
01:46:00,000 --> 01:46:02,480
19th that Saturday. opportunity to give

2583
01:46:02,480 --> 01:46:04,719
blood and um you know to help support

2584
01:46:04,719 --> 01:46:07,360
sex and learn about the disease and

2585
01:46:07,360 --> 01:46:10,320
maybe some progress that's been made.

2586
01:46:10,320 --> 01:46:12,159
All right, annual gayla. We've been

2587
01:46:12,159 --> 01:46:14,080
announcing this for a few weeks now. The

2588
01:46:14,080 --> 01:46:17,199
women resource center on September 24th

2589
01:46:17,199 --> 01:46:19,280
and it's always Nagus Event Center.

2590
01:46:19,280 --> 01:46:22,080
Usually a really good crowd. So um I

2591
01:46:22,080 --> 01:46:23,760
know the people within the city who look

2592
01:46:23,760 --> 01:46:25,520
forward to this event happening every

2593
01:46:25,520 --> 01:46:27,119
year.

2594
01:46:27,119 --> 01:46:30,480
The Nagadus car show is taking place on

2595
01:46:30,480 --> 01:46:33,040
that first weekend in October uh the

2596
01:46:33,040 --> 01:46:35,600
second and third. So um I think it's

2597
01:46:35,600 --> 01:46:38,800
grown just about every year and um you

2598
01:46:38,800 --> 01:46:41,199
know Nacket is just fortunate to have I

2599
01:46:41,199 --> 01:46:43,920
know Councilwoman at large and others

2600
01:46:43,920 --> 01:46:45,920
appreciate it historic district

2601
01:46:45,920 --> 01:46:47,760
commission but also we've got other

2602
01:46:47,760 --> 01:46:49,920
groups as well uh who helped to make

2603
01:46:49,920 --> 01:46:51,760
Nagish what it is. So historic district

2604
01:46:51,760 --> 01:46:53,600
business association is one of the

2605
01:46:53,600 --> 01:46:55,040
events they put on in addition to

2606
01:46:55,040 --> 01:46:57,360
Christmas festival. So kudos to them and

2607
01:46:57,360 --> 01:46:59,760
we certainly want to be there to support

2608
01:46:59,760 --> 01:47:01,199
our downtown businesses on this

2609
01:47:01,199 --> 01:47:02,960
particular day. See what cars out there.

2610
01:47:02,960 --> 01:47:04,800
One of my favorite events on on the

2611
01:47:04,800 --> 01:47:06,719
calendar. All right. Top of the booth.

2612
01:47:06,719 --> 01:47:09,520
This is new this year. Um Northwestern

2613
01:47:09,520 --> 01:47:11,199
is putting this on to help to support

2614
01:47:11,199 --> 01:47:13,679
some efforts that they have. But

2615
01:47:13,679 --> 01:47:14,960
everything I hear about it's going to be

2616
01:47:14,960 --> 01:47:16,639
a really really good really good

2617
01:47:16,639 --> 01:47:19,440
turnout. Um the artists that they have

2618
01:47:19,440 --> 01:47:21,840
I'm told are really really big. I think

2619
01:47:21,840 --> 01:47:23,199
they're more of the country. Are they

2620
01:47:23,199 --> 01:47:25,600
more country? like that's what it is.

2621
01:47:25,600 --> 01:47:27,920
But um I heard that there some pretty

2622
01:47:27,920 --> 01:47:30,080
big names. So this is Yeah, it's some

2623
01:47:30,080 --> 01:47:31,360
pretty big names. So Top of the Boot,

2624
01:47:31,360 --> 01:47:34,000
that's happening 16 to 17. And obviously

2625
01:47:34,000 --> 01:47:36,800
when I support tickets on sale now, uh

2626
01:47:36,800 --> 01:47:38,239
with that, they also have the house that

2627
01:47:38,239 --> 01:47:40,800
they're raffling off as well, which is,

2628
01:47:40,800 --> 01:47:43,280
you know, separate effort, but you know,

2629
01:47:43,280 --> 01:47:45,040
we love to support our university. Have

2630
01:47:45,040 --> 01:47:46,159
y'all had a chance to take a look at the

2631
01:47:46,159 --> 01:47:47,440
sign? Anybody out there on the

2632
01:47:47,440 --> 01:47:49,600
interstate? The refurbished sign? Take a

2633
01:47:49,600 --> 01:47:54,239
look at it when you go out there. Um it looks really nice. uh the sign which

2634
01:47:54,239 --> 01:47:55,600
is you know it's the same one on the

2635
01:47:55,600 --> 01:47:56,639
hill but

2636
01:47:56,639 --> 01:47:58,639
>> there's been some work been some work to

2637
01:47:58,639 --> 01:48:00,639
it uh partnership with Kane River

2638
01:48:00,639 --> 01:48:03,199
National Heritage Heritage Area uh the

2639
01:48:03,199 --> 01:48:05,119
city of Nacatish and Northwestern State

2640
01:48:05,119 --> 01:48:07,040
University so it looks really good so

2641
01:48:07,040 --> 01:48:08,880
that's happening 16 and 17 I think we

2642
01:48:08,880 --> 01:48:10,800
have one or two more that's it okay all

2643
01:48:10,800 --> 01:48:13,040
right great so a lot of announcements a

2644
01:48:13,040 --> 01:48:14,800
lot of things coming up this is our busy

2645
01:48:14,800 --> 01:48:17,280
season so um but at this time we'll hear

2646
01:48:17,280 --> 01:48:18,480
a motion to adjourn

2647
01:48:18,480 --> 01:48:20,000
>> I make a motion that we adjourn

2648
01:48:20,000 --> 01:48:20,560
>> second

2649
01:48:20,560 --> 01:48:22,480
>> All right in favor I

2650
01:48:22,480 --> 01:48:24,320
>> All Hey, meeting is a J. Y'all have a

2651
01:48:24,320 --> 01:48:28,440
great night everybody. Hey