[0:05] testing. Testing
[0:09] » testing. Is the mic on it?
[0:16] » Tess. All right.
[0:18] >> Thank you, Sophie.
[0:21] >> Good evening, everybody. Our August 24,
[0:24] 2026 meeting is called to order. We're
[0:27] going to begin the meeting with um
[0:30] prayer first and then we're going to
[0:33] recite the pledge together. Will we
[0:34] stand for prayer and pledge at this
[0:36] time?
[0:41] Let us pray. Oh dear God, we come before
[0:44] you once again thanking you for the
[0:47] opportunity to serve such a great
[0:49] community. God, it's my prayer and
[0:51] desire that individuals who live here
[0:53] will begin to see how special, how great
[0:56] of a community that this really is. I
[0:58] know many do, but I pray that even more
[1:00] so will. Lord God, I thank you that you
[1:02] would keep us safe again as we are
[1:04] looking at a calendar of of events, that
[1:07] those would be put on well, that they
[1:09] would be uh well attended, that people
[1:12] will enjoy themselves, take in
[1:13] everything that Nakatish has to offer.
[1:16] God, we also thank you for the meeting
[1:17] that's before us tonight. uh there are
[1:19] some agenda items. We pray that we uh
[1:24] will be willing and able to voice our
[1:26] opinions, but that we will do it in an
[1:27] orderly way. We will do it in a
[1:29] respectful way. Always reminded of what
[1:31] the scripture says. Whatever we do, let
[1:33] us do it decently and in order. So I
[1:35] pray that that's what we do on tonight.
[1:37] Thank you for keeping us, keeping our
[1:39] youth, and that we continue to make the
[1:41] city of Nakadesh a better place. It's in
[1:43] your son Jesus name we ask. Amen.
[1:45] >> Amen. And will you please join us in
[1:47] reciting the pledge of
[1:48] >> allegiance
[1:51] to the flag of the United States of
[1:53] America and to the republic for which it
[1:56] stands. One nation under God,
[2:00] indivisibley
[2:03] for all.
[2:05] >> All right. Awesome. Thank you all so
[2:07] much. Our next item on the agenda is the
[2:11] reading and approval of the minutes from
[2:13] our most recent meeting on August 10th.
[2:16] >> May I make a motion that we dispense
[2:18] with the reading of the minutes of
[2:20] August August 10th and that the minutes
[2:22] be adopted as recorded.
[2:25] >> Second.
[2:26] Motion's made and seconded. Any comments
[2:29] or questions about this particular
[2:31] motion?
[2:33] >> All right. Seeing none, Mr. Stacy, roll
[2:35] call vote.
[2:36] >> Eli,
[2:36] >> yes. Nelson,
[2:38] >> yes.
[2:38] >> Smith, Kirkindall,
[2:39] >> yes.
[2:40] >> Harrington,
[2:41] >> yes.
[2:41] >> PT,
[2:42] >> yes.
[2:42] >> That motion carries.
[2:44] >> Before we move on, I just want to share
[2:46] some instructions that we share every
[2:49] meeting. The city council encourages
[2:51] public participation
[2:53] um and appreciates it when citizens
[2:56] bring their issues of community concern
[2:57] to their attention. Individuals w
[3:00] wishing to address the council on any
[3:01] agenda item may do so at the time the
[3:04] agenda item is considered. Comments are
[3:08] limited to three minutes per speaker.
[3:10] This time may be reduced if there are
[3:12] numerous speakers on a particular item.
[3:15] Members of the audience members of the
[3:17] audience should respect the rights of
[3:19] others and shall not create noise or
[3:21] other disturbances to disrupt or disturb
[3:24] persons who are addressing the city
[3:26] council. All persons addressing the city
[3:28] council shall speak in a civil and
[3:31] courteous manner. Speakers shall address
[3:33] the agenda topic to which they're
[3:34] speaking on and shall not be repetitive
[3:37] and we ask that you would adhere to
[3:38] those instructions. Also, we would ask
[3:40] if you take the moment now to go ahead
[3:42] and silence uh your cell phones uh so
[3:45] that we won't have any interruptions. We
[3:47] do have a special guest tonight. Uh we
[3:49] have Mr.
[3:51] Harold Bayan, chairman of the Nacades
[3:53] Community Improvement Foundation. And uh
[3:56] we want Mr. Harab Bayan to uh uh to go
[4:00] to the podium and certainly start out by
[4:03] stating your first and last name and
[4:04] just share um what uh you're here for.
[4:08] Um we do know that um the Nagas
[4:11] Community Improvement Foundation uh
[4:13] certainly helped many of our youth out
[4:15] this summer and Mr. Harold's going to
[4:16] talk about that. Go ahead, Mr. Bay.
[4:18] >> Yes, I'm Harold Bayan,
[4:21] chairman of Nagash Community Improvement
[4:23] Foundation.
[4:25] I'm here in reference to our foundation
[4:28] and the mission and the work that we do.
[4:31] Our mission is community improvement,
[4:35] low housing development, recreations for
[4:37] youth, educations,
[4:40] grants, sponsorships, donations,
[4:45] and this year we tried to do every last
[4:47] one of them.
[4:49] We are and I would like to also
[4:54] give a shout out to the department heads
[4:57] for the city for all the work that you
[5:00] all do. We really appreciate it.
[5:04] And this summer was exciting and
[5:07] outstanding for our steam summer
[5:09] program. Bring you back. Last year we
[5:12] did it at LP Von
[5:14] and it was and it was good. This year,
[5:17] the Nagas Parish School Board, we
[5:19] partnered with them and they gave us the
[5:22] Magnum School on East Fifth.
[5:24] We had no less than 73 students a day.
[5:28] Some of the curriculum was self-defense,
[5:33] flying and colding drones,
[5:36] arts and craft taught by Miss Judith
[5:38] Hayes. She's here tonight. We had
[5:41] engineering.
[5:43] Uh we we had speakers. uh one of our uh
[5:49] on our advisory councils, Mr. Shields,
[5:52] he's here tonight. He spoke. They had
[5:55] math literature
[5:57] uh learning how to uh build businesses
[5:59] and make their own in signal. They had
[6:02] engineering.
[6:04] We fed them breakfast, snacks, and
[6:07] lunch. We had our cafeteria manager. We
[6:11] had the assistant. We had security.
[6:15] No child went to the bathroom by itself.
[6:18] We had security on each wing.
[6:21] They were introduced to beginner snare
[6:24] drums.
[6:26] They were introduced to guitars
[6:29] and they had a wonderful time and it was
[6:33] exciting to see them learn to play.
[6:36] Never touched these instruments before
[6:39] and how well they done. But it could not
[6:42] have been done
[6:45] without the volunteers, supporters,
[6:49] community volunteers and partners, the
[6:52] parents
[6:53] and everyone who gave their time.
[6:57] At this time, uh,
[7:01] I would like to ask for anyone that's
[7:04] here that's a member of NCIF,
[7:08] if you're here tonight for whatever
[7:09] reason, would you please stand? That
[7:12] includes advisors.
[7:15] There's two,
[7:17] there's one, there's three. City council
[7:20] person
[7:22] Rosemary. Thank you all. I just WANT TO
[7:24] APPRECIATE
[7:29] SO WE ADDED this year to move quickly
[7:33] summer swimming lessons
[7:37] along with the classes when it was over.
[7:40] Well, we didn't know.
[7:42] So we didn't take the initiative to go
[7:44] ahead of time and set this up. We
[7:48] thought we could just go by time school
[7:50] was over and get the summer classes
[7:53] where Northwestern was full
[7:57] and the city was full.
[8:00] But thanks to the recreation department
[8:03] member, Mr. Blake and Mayor Ronnie
[8:05] Williams that stepped in
[8:08] allowed the lifeguards
[8:10] to teach our children summer swimming
[8:13] after the summer classes and the
[8:16] recreation swimming was over.
[8:19] They held them over to teach our
[8:20] children. Some couldn't duck their heads
[8:23] under the water. When they left, some of
[8:25] them were swimming on their back.
[8:28] Mayor Williams visited the swimming pool
[8:33] and we appreciate his initiative
[8:36] and his progressive idea to even be
[8:39] involved in this. Our motto is
[8:42] footprints in the community
[8:45] whenever you see that that's our
[8:48] intentional. We want to do more.
[8:52] We want we want more children and this
[8:54] is going to be our main state.
[8:58] At this time
[9:00] I would like for Mr. Rosemary Eli, city
[9:05] council person and a member of the Niger
[9:08] Community Improvement Foundation to do
[9:11] something. I think she going to ask
[9:13] Mayor Williams to come forward.
[9:16] Mayor Williams, uh, on the behalf of the
[9:19] Natives Community Improvement Foundation
[9:22] is great for recognition for your
[9:24] outstanding service to our organization
[9:27] and would like to come up and take a
[9:29] picture with you.
[9:30] >> Well, look, thank you all so much. I
[9:32] wasn't expecting that.
[9:35] certainly
[9:37] wasn't expecting that. But I I'll say
[9:38] this, you know, um I know Harold worked
[9:42] directly with Blake and others, so I
[9:44] didn't necessarily have to be in the
[9:45] weeds in it, but that is important that,
[9:48] you know, students from the community, I
[9:50] guess residents from the community, I
[9:51] say like that or learning how to swim.
[9:55] >> Um and we're trying to figure out how we
[9:57] could extend that a little bit more cuz
[9:59] it's just a couple months now, but how
[10:01] we could try to get that extended so we
[10:02] could teach more. And uh that's really
[10:05] important. But then your program at um
[10:07] magnet is a it's a STEM program or
[10:10] >> it's called a STEM program. So yeah,
[10:12] it's just all positives. Um I know there
[10:15] was a KL KB
[10:19] uh piece on it. So maybe people could
[10:21] Google that a little bit and kind of
[10:23] you'll get to see some of the video and
[10:25] the images of what what what some of the
[10:27] kids were able to do. So, um, NCIF, I
[10:30] know y'all giving me this, but I mean,
[10:32] this is really all y'all, um, and what
[10:35] you're doing in the community, and we
[10:36] certainly need organizations like the
[10:38] Nagish Community Improvements Foundation
[10:40] because the city, city government can't
[10:42] do it all. We can't do it by ourselves.
[10:44] We certainly need these caring
[10:45] organizations to um, and we'll be
[10:48] willing to partner what we need to. So,
[10:50] again, yeah, I know y'all giving me
[10:51] this, but but kudos to y'all is what I
[10:53] want to say. All right. Well, we
[10:54] certainly appreciate the partnership and
[10:56] I hope like you say this is a lasting
[10:58] one.
[10:58] >> Yes, sir.
[10:59] >> That we will continue to do so. Anyone
[11:01] from CI want to take a picture? Mr.
[11:04] Shields. Anyone? Come on. Take a
[11:07] picture.
[11:22] Give us a picture, please.
[11:40] » All right.
[11:51] Mr. Bayan, before you, I just want to
[11:52] say I think that your um organization
[11:56] really did a really great job this
[11:59] summer. I did stop by the school and got
[12:01] an opportunity. I was invited by Miss
[12:03] Judith Hayes,
[12:05] uh Walters, and uh Miss Judith Hayes and
[12:08] got to see all the kids there. And
[12:10] you're right, it was a lot different
[12:12] from last year. A lot more uh
[12:15] involvement and and it was just great
[12:18] seeing so many kids over there. So, I
[12:20] just think you're doing a great job and
[12:22] continue to do so.
[12:24] >> All right.
[12:24] >> Thank you so much.
[12:26] >> Thank all of you.
[12:27] >> Appreciate that.
[12:27] >> All right. Thank all of you for what
[12:29] you're doing in the community. Okay. All
[12:32] right.
[12:34] Okay. So, next we've got our special
[12:37] guest. Um, next we've got Nacatish
[12:41] Historic District Commission appeal.
[12:46] Uh, applicant owner Henry Cook Taylor
[12:50] Junior and Deborah Lee Taylor. The
[12:53] purpose, the appeal of the decision by
[12:55] the Nagodish Historic Commission
[12:57] rendered July 28, 2026
[13:00] regarding the artwork artwork, excuse
[13:03] me, installed at
[13:06] 123 St. Denise Street in Akatish,
[13:10] Louisiana. I think we already have an
[13:12] attorney representing um
[13:15] >> Good evening,
[13:16] >> Mr. Cook and Mrs. Taylor. And I believe
[13:20] city council you have a document from Mr. Glette as
[13:26] well. So Mr. Glette, state your first
[13:28] and last name and um get into your
[13:31] remarks.
[13:32] >> Yes, sir.
[13:32] >> Oh, and let me say this. I'm sorry. We
[13:34] are we do have the threeminut rule. Our
[13:38] clock is not functioning um like it
[13:41] should. So Mrs. Stac is going to be my clock for me today. Okay. All right.
[13:46] Go ahead, Mr. Glad.
[13:47] >> Yeah. Thank you, Mayor. Um, good evening
[13:50] everyone. My name is Chris Gillette. I
[13:53] grew up here. I'm a lawyer here. I've
[13:55] got an office on Second Street. Went to
[13:57] Nakad Central, graduated in 1987. And
[14:01] I'm here tonight representing Lee Cook
[14:03] LLC and also Mr. Cook and Miss Taylor,
[14:06] which owned the property at 123 Saint
[14:09] Den just right about a block away here.
[14:13] Mayor,
[14:14] in July of this year, the Taylor's uh
[14:19] commissioned an artist to
[14:23] install some artwork in Taylor Park on
[14:26] 123 Saint Den. I think everyone's
[14:29] probably familiar with it. I do have
[14:31] some pictures I can pass out in a
[14:33] moment. The artwork says Nacades in
[14:35] large letters. Um, the historic
[14:39] commission determined that a permit
[14:43] would be required for this artwork. And
[14:46] so the historic commission uh set a set
[14:50] a meeting and summoned the property
[14:53] owners to respond.
[14:56] July 28th,
[14:59] the historic commission took the matter
[15:00] up. Uh they acknowledged during the
[15:03] meeting, the commission acknowledged
[15:04] during the meeting that there was
[15:07] another building, a mural at 860
[15:10] Washington. This is the Bank of
[15:11] Montgomery mural
[15:13] uh that had been in place since uh about
[15:16] 2014 or so, the best that I know. Uh and
[15:21] that mural the bank had not applied for
[15:24] a permit, hadn't received a permit. The
[15:26] historic commission had not taken any
[15:28] action to find the owner or or ask that
[15:32] it be taken down.
[15:35] The commission ordered
[15:37] the tailor to remove the artwork at 123
[15:40] Saint Den within 60 days. Uh if they
[15:44] didn't then they would be fined $50 for
[15:46] each day thereafter that it wasn't
[15:48] removed.
[15:50] We filed an appeal and I I uh provided a
[15:54] copy I think to the council
[15:57] a few days later and the basis of the
[16:00] appeal there's several grounds but uh
[16:03] number one that uh the the commission
[16:06] and the city council can't selectively
[16:09] enforce the ordinances.
[16:12] I think we cite, you know, Louisiana
[16:14] Constitution Article 6, uh, section 17.
[16:19] It's got to be uniformly enforced.
[16:22] The bank's mural, uh, actually
[16:25] advertises the Bank of Montgomery. It's
[16:27] got a picture of a horse and buggy and
[16:28] some other things, and they didn't
[16:31] obtain a permit for that one either.
[16:34] Secondly,
[16:35] although it is in a landmark historic
[16:38] district, both the bank building and the
[16:40] Taylor's building are in the landmark
[16:42] district
[16:44] under the National Historic Preservation
[16:47] Act, murals and artworks not prohibited.
[16:51] I cited those statutes in the written
[16:53] appeal that I provided to you in the
[16:55] regulations.
[16:55] >> Mr. Glet, that's three minutes, but
[16:57] given that you're the attorney for the
[16:59] Mr. Cook and Taylor, do you need a
[17:01] little bit more time?
[17:02] >> I do. Another three. We'll give you
[17:04] another three. Give me another three.
[17:05] >> Appreciate that. Thank you.
[17:07] >> The uh the statute uh the federal
[17:11] statute does not prohibit artwork or
[17:14] murals. It only concerns the structures
[17:17] uh of the buildings themselves. That's
[17:19] the concern of the federal uh
[17:24] National Historic Preservation Act.
[17:27] Next, under the ordinance,
[17:31] the the artwork is not assigned for a
[17:34] number of reasons, but the main reason
[17:36] is is uh under I think it's 16.1-
[17:41] 30 uh or 26. It doesn't advertise a
[17:45] product. It doesn't advertise a product,
[17:47] a business, or a commodity.
[17:50] Also, it's not clear that a permit's
[17:52] required at all, as we argued or stated
[17:56] in the letter, because permits are
[17:59] required in three instances. Number one,
[18:02] if you build a new structure, number
[18:04] two, if you paint an existing structure,
[18:07] or number three, if you alter or add to
[18:10] an existing structure.
[18:13] This artwork is a hardy board and it's
[18:17] attached with screws that can be removed
[18:20] and the artwork can be removed without
[18:23] damaging the structure itself, the
[18:25] building. So, it's not clear that a
[18:28] permit was required
[18:31] before the council tonight under the
[18:33] appeal statute. the council can reverse
[18:36] it can modify the existing order and so
[18:41] we ask respectfully that the council
[18:44] reverse the order of the commission on
[18:47] these grounds. Number one, that no
[18:50] permit appears to be required and also
[18:52] no selective enforcement of the
[18:54] ordinance really is permitted.
[18:57] I think that's about all mayor. I don't
[18:59] know if I have any more time, but if if
[19:01] I do, I'll be glad to answer any
[19:02] questions.
[19:03] >> Thank you, Mr. Klet. I appreciate that.
[19:04] >> Thank you, Lyn.
[19:06] >> Okay.
[19:06] >> Oh, I have a couple of things to
[19:07] introduce if I may. Uh I have the we uh
[19:11] did a public records request for the
[19:13] Bank of McGomery records to confirm that
[19:16] they didn't address that issue. Uh and
[19:20] in 2014,
[19:22] July the 7th, 2014, they first applied
[19:25] to the commission to paint the brick a
[19:27] uniform color. September the 7th of
[19:31] 2014, they changed their mind, decided
[19:34] to use exposed brick. So that's what's
[19:37] in the public record for the mural at
[19:39] 860 Washington.
[19:41] Uh last in in the letter, and I want the
[19:45] commission to have these pictures. The
[19:47] first three are just the nacadish
[19:49] artwork itself. I know you've seen that.
[19:52] Number four is the Bank of Montgomery
[19:54] mural, which is visible from Front
[19:56] Street. So, if you drive from Front
[19:58] Street towards Texas Street, you see it
[20:00] on your left, right by the Louisiana
[20:02] Sports Hall of Fame. We also point out
[20:05] in the letter that murals are very
[20:07] common now. Uh, it's probably not a
[20:10] legal issue, but I wanted to make that
[20:11] clear. And I have got pictures, about
[20:14] five or six pictures of all of the
[20:16] murals in downtown Rustin. Uh, and
[20:20] downtown Rustin is also a historic
[20:22] district. It's not a landmark district,
[20:23] but it is a historic district and
[20:25] includes a lot of murals.
[20:28] So, mayor, if I may and council, I'd
[20:31] like to just introduce into the record
[20:34] the request uh and the response to the
[20:39] um public records request and also
[20:42] pictures number 1 through 11.
[20:45] >> You you want the council you have enough
[20:47] of those for the council or just kind of
[20:49] want them to pass them around? Yeah,
[20:51] mayor. I I don't have any extra copies,
[20:53] but I'll just introduce those.
[20:54] >> Okay, I got you. I see what you say.
[20:55] Pass them around.
[20:56] >> Yes, sir.
[20:57] >> Okay. All right. Thank you, Mr. Gat. Is
[21:00] there anybody here from the historic
[21:03] district commission who would like to
[21:06] come at this time?
[21:15] » All right. Please state your first and
[21:16] last name, ma'am, and then whatever. I'm
[21:18] Marian Salter and I happen to be
[21:20] chairman um this year of the historic
[21:22] district commission and I'm here to
[21:25] answer any questions that you all might
[21:26] have. And I also would like to state
[21:29] that at each of our meetings every month
[21:33] we have applicants come before us and
[21:35] they have all different things that
[21:37] they're asking to do to their
[21:38] properties. Some are additions, some are
[21:41] demolitions, some are paint, some are
[21:43] roofs.
[21:45] There's all kinds of things. We take
[21:48] each application very seriously.
[21:52] We also form subcommittees to go out and
[21:55] meet with these individuals if they
[21:57] would like for us to. The committees
[22:00] come back and report to us and then a
[22:03] decision is made based on the guidelines
[22:06] set forth by the Department of the
[22:09] Interior and plus the city ordinances
[22:12] which are our laws. And we as a group of
[22:16] the historic district commission are
[22:19] volunteers that have been appointed by
[22:22] the mayor and voted upon by your city
[22:24] council. And we are charged with trying
[22:27] to interpret these rules as best that we
[22:30] can. And this is what we do to every
[22:33] individual that comes before us.
[22:37] I would like to say also that after the
[22:40] meeting on July the 28th, Mr. Taylor
[22:43] came up to me after the meeting and I
[22:45] hope you remember our little
[22:46] conversation that we had and he informed
[22:49] me that there was a committee that had
[22:51] been put together over a year ago to
[22:55] apparently put this knackadish sign
[22:57] together and that in January the
[23:00] committee fell apart
[23:02] and that he decided to carry this
[23:04] forward. My response to him was I said,
[23:08] "Henry, why did you not come to the
[23:11] historic district commission and ask us
[23:13] to be a part of this committee?" His
[23:16] response to me was, "We knew that you
[23:18] all would not allow it."
[23:21] And I take and I asked him, I said,
[23:24] "Well, I'm sorry you felt that way,
[23:27] but we would have come and tried to work
[23:29] together." And what a lot of people
[23:31] don't know is the fact that the historic
[23:35] district commission and some city
[23:37] employees have been trying to work
[23:40] trying to put together some ordinance
[23:43] concerning murals and artwork because
[23:46] this is becoming something that people
[23:48] wish to do but yet no one has even
[23:51] mentioned the fact that we are trying to
[23:53] do things behind the scenes.
[23:56] Now I am concerned that
[24:01] the way we interpret this painting, this
[24:05] artwork is a little different than maybe
[24:07] Mr. Glette has interpreted
[24:10] based on the ordinances that we have.
[24:14] We are charged with preserving
[24:18] structures and maintaining their
[24:20] integrity and also the dignity of the
[24:23] historic district that we are charged. I
[24:26] think that's at the end of your three,
[24:27] but if you need a little bit more time,
[24:28] know everybody understands. We allow a
[24:30] little bit more time for opening remarks
[24:32] >> and then we will strictly enforce three
[24:33] minutes thereafter. But I think it's
[24:35] fair to give opening remarks a little
[24:37] bit more time. Go ahead.
[24:39] >> Thank you. And we understand that murals
[24:41] are becoming a thing within communities
[24:44] and we want to work with people to try
[24:47] to do what is right and what is not
[24:49] right. But I also need to point out that
[24:52] our community is a very special
[24:54] community that not many have. Rustin
[24:56] doesn't have it. Shreport doesn't have
[24:58] it. Any of these other places that have
[25:00] murals. We are the oldest town in the
[25:02] Louisiana Purchase. That's onethird of
[25:04] the United States. We are a national
[25:07] landmark district. and being established
[25:10] as a landmark district. The federal
[25:13] government through the Interior
[25:14] Department of the Interior states that
[25:16] we are charged with preserving not only
[25:20] for our local and our state but for the
[25:23] nation and we take all of what we do as
[25:26] the historic district commission very
[25:28] seriously.
[25:30] >> Thank you.
[25:31] Mrs. Salter. All right. Um
[25:36] All right. We've heard from attorney
[25:39] Glette. We've heard from Miss Alter,
[25:42] Mrs. Alter from the Historic District
[25:43] Commission. City Council members,
[25:47] anything y'all have to say on this
[25:48] matter? Again, before us is the appeal
[25:52] um of the decision that was made uh to
[25:55] give 60 days and then start finding if
[25:58] it's still up, if this artwork is still
[26:01] on the side of the building. I just want
[26:03] to say I appreciate what the um historic
[26:07] commission does as being volunteers. Um
[26:10] so I just want to say make that point
[26:13] first and foremost that I don't want it
[26:16] to go unnoticed, unmentioned that you
[26:19] all do a great work and trying to
[26:22] preserve what Nackage has as far as
[26:25] being landmark areas here, landmark
[26:28] buildings and whatever here in Nacades.
[26:30] And just wanted to point that out to
[26:31] you.
[26:32] Okay.
[26:36] » Any other comments? City council.
[26:39] >> You want me to?
[26:40] >> Yeah.
[26:41] >> Okay. Um,
[26:44] bear with me. I'm always, as my wife
[26:45] say, can be very long- winded, so I'm
[26:48] about to be a little long- winded. Uh,
[26:50] first I I want to start by also thanking
[26:53] the members of the historic commission.
[26:55] They're, as Miss Betty said, they're
[26:57] 100% volunteers who put their time and
[27:00] effort in this historic district because
[27:02] they care about it. They care about
[27:03] preserving and protecting it, and that's
[27:05] why they put a lot of time into what
[27:08] they do uh for nothing in return. Um,
[27:11] and I believe they were put in a very
[27:13] difficult position here because I
[27:15] believe and I believe they did the right
[27:17] thing by making a decision that allowed
[27:19] this to ultimately come before us. um as
[27:22] cuz I'm I'm going to discuss when you
[27:24] really get in our ordinances and try to
[27:26] apply them to murals, it's extremely
[27:29] vague. Um in fact, they don't ex
[27:33] specifically address murals at all. What
[27:35] the commission had was something placed
[27:37] on a building without a permit and they
[27:40] had to make the decision based on the
[27:41] ordinance that we have. Um, I want to
[27:44] make clear at the beginning cuz I don't
[27:47] view what we're doing tonight as a city
[27:49] council being against the historic
[27:51] commission in in any way. Um, and if we
[27:54] ultimately reach a different conclusion
[27:55] on part of their decision, that doesn't
[27:58] mean they did anything wrong. Uh, none
[28:00] of us sitting up here created the
[28:03] ordinance that's before us. This was I
[28:05] don't know when it was created. In fact,
[28:07] no idea.
[28:08] >> Long time
[28:08] >> in the 70s maybe. I'm not sure.
[28:10] Obviously,
[28:10] >> uh we inherited it, but we up here are
[28:14] the legislative body now responsible for
[28:16] it. And uh when we find that an
[28:18] ordinance is vague or incomplete or
[28:21] doesn't adequately address something,
[28:23] it's our responsibility to clarify it uh
[28:26] to interpret it or appropriate or to
[28:29] change it. And um our ordinance also
[28:33] gives us a very specific responsibility
[28:35] when a decision by the commission is
[28:37] appealed to us. as Miss Marian stated
[28:41] uh I'm sorry what Mr. Glette stated uh
[28:46] that it says the council and I quote
[28:48] shall have the right to reverse change
[28:51] or modify any decision of the historic
[28:53] commission. The commission made its
[28:55] decision. the tailor's appealed it and
[28:57] it's our responsibility to look at the
[28:59] ordinance, look at the standards that
[29:00] our ordinance tells us to follow and uh
[29:03] make our our own decision based on how
[29:05] we the legislative body interpret uh
[29:08] this vagueness from our ordinances. And
[29:10] that's what I I've tried to do and the
[29:12] first question I asked is what is this
[29:16] right? Because there's there's questions
[29:19] about a sign, a mural, what is it? And
[29:21] to me it's to me it's a mural. It's
[29:24] artwork is what it is. I don't believe
[29:26] it's a sign under the definition comp
[29:28] contained in our ordinance. Our
[29:29] ordinance defines a sign as including
[29:31] symbols and similar displays like Mr.
[29:34] Gillette stated and I quote used for
[29:36] advertising purposes such as those to
[29:38] designate an individual firm etc. Um
[29:41] that's not what this is. It's doesn't
[29:44] advertise any business. It's not
[29:45] advertising a product or service or a
[29:47] profession etc. It's just artwork
[29:50] depicting nadition scenes of our
[29:51] community. Um, so I don't believe the
[29:54] provisions that regulate signs apply to
[29:56] this mural. So then what do we look at
[30:00] in our ordinances? And uh, because when
[30:03] you move away from the sign provisions
[30:05] and look at what does require a permit,
[30:08] our ordinance requires a permit for any
[30:10] alteration or addition to an existing
[30:14] structure. Um, that's where I I do
[30:18] slightly disagree with Mr. Glette where
[30:19] he said it didn't he doesn't believe it
[30:21] even maybe required a permit. I I think
[30:23] it's an addition to an structure. Um it
[30:26] is added to the structure. Um even
[30:28] though it can be removed.
[30:30] I believe it's an addition or
[30:32] alteration. So I want to be very clear
[30:33] about this. I do I believe the Taylor
[30:35] should have applied for a permit when
[30:36] they when they put it up and one wasn't
[30:39] applied. Uh I don't think there's any
[30:41] question about that. But there are two
[30:45] different questions. The first is should
[30:47] they obtain a permit for installing it?
[30:49] I think yes. The second is if they
[30:51] applied for a permit, what standards
[30:53] then do we use to determine whether this
[30:57] should have been allowed and approved?
[30:59] Uh our ordinance, like I said, doesn't
[31:01] give us any specific mural standards at
[31:02] all. Instead, our ordinance says that
[31:05] the historic district commission, and I
[31:07] quote, shall follow the guidelines
[31:10] established by the United States
[31:12] Department of the Interior. Okay. So, I
[31:16] contacted the Department of Interior.
[31:18] What are y'all's guidelines? I went
[31:19] through a lot of people and I got to
[31:20] their Atlanta office. Uh, spoke with an
[31:23] individual there concerning historic
[31:25] landmark districts and specifically
[31:26] inquired about murals. I was informed
[31:29] that they don't regulate or prohibit
[31:32] murals of any kind. Um, I was also told
[31:35] that murals themselves generally have
[31:37] very little to no effect on historic
[31:39] designation. What matters more from the
[31:42] historic preservation their standpoint
[31:45] is the destruction, loss or severe
[31:47] alteration of historic buildings and
[31:50] historic materials that give those
[31:52] buildings their historic significance.
[31:55] Um and in fact what they specifically
[32:00] what they said is
[32:02] if you have a hundred in your district
[32:04] if you have a hundred historic buildings
[32:07] if due to loss destruction if you got 10
[32:10] you should be worried about your
[32:12] designation. That's kind of they're just
[32:14] worried about losing buildings. I they
[32:16] directed me to the Secretary of State's
[32:18] standards for rehabilitation which is
[32:21] codified in 36 CFR part 67. I have a a
[32:26] copy of them right here if anyone wants
[32:27] to look at them. And when you actually
[32:29] read those standards, their purpose is
[32:32] pretty straightforward. They say they're
[32:33] intended to preserve the historic
[32:35] significance of a property by protecting
[32:37] the historic materials and features that
[32:40] make that property significant. And
[32:42] there's standard nine which is relevant
[32:44] here. Um, and it addresses exterior
[32:47] alterations
[32:49] and um, it says uh, it says that an
[32:53] exterior alteration should not destroy
[32:55] historic materials that characterize the
[32:57] property. Um, I don't think the mural
[33:01] does that. It says the new work should
[33:03] be differentiated from the old. I think
[33:06] it clearly is. I don't think anyone's
[33:08] going to look at this mural and think it
[33:09] was part of the original historic
[33:11] building when it was built. Um it also
[33:15] says standard 10 says uh that new
[33:18] additions
[33:20] um should be done in a way that protects
[33:22] the essential form and integrity of the
[33:25] historic property and if removed in the
[33:27] future wouldn't destroy it. Wow. I mean
[33:30] it it wouldn't uh I would I would say um
[33:36] again I think that's important here.
[33:38] This mural is attached in a way it can
[33:39] be removed. somebody takes it down five
[33:42] years from now, 10 from now, 50 from
[33:43] now, the essential form and integrity of
[33:46] the building still remains. So, after
[33:49] looking at those actual standards that
[33:51] our ordinance tells us to follow, I
[33:52] simply can't find anything that says a
[33:54] mural is prohibited. Uh, and murals in
[33:58] historic districts are certainly not
[33:59] unusual, has been stated. When I spoke
[34:02] with the Department of the Interior,
[34:03] they they gave me a couple examples.
[34:06] Charleston, South Carolina and Savannah,
[34:08] Georgia was mentioned as examples of
[34:10] landmark districts um where murals exist
[34:13] and they they guided me to their they
[34:15] said they have great uh mural guidelines
[34:18] that they have in their ordinances. Uh
[34:21] and so it's something for us to look towards. Okay.
[34:27] Uh I then started looking at other
[34:28] historic districts around the country.
[34:30] There's plenty of communities that allow
[34:31] them. There's an in Alabama for
[34:33] instance. I have this whole packet is
[34:35] our mural guidelines for their landmark
[34:37] district and it's in it's extensive.
[34:41] Uh there's um uh Lancaster, New York,
[34:46] much smaller guidelines, but they also
[34:48] have guidelines that we can we can look
[34:49] through and and go off of. We don't need
[34:51] to reinvent the wheel here is what I'm
[34:53] saying. If it works for their landmark
[34:54] districts and has for so many years, why
[34:56] wouldn't it work here? Um, they regulate
[34:58] things like location,
[35:00] um, protection of historic materials,
[35:03] attachment methods, and other
[35:05] preservation concerns. They even provide
[35:07] pictures and examples in their
[35:08] ordinances that really help out. Um,
[35:12] some places regulate size, some places
[35:15] regulate what side of a building it can
[35:16] be on, some protect historic brick and
[35:18] masonry, some prevent murals from
[35:20] covering important architectural
[35:21] features. Um, some say they can't face
[35:25] streets at all, which actually this one
[35:27] in particular doesn't even face doesn't
[35:29] face a street. Um,
[35:32] so I I absolutely believe we need to
[35:33] address murals in our ordinances going
[35:35] forward. We have an ordinance later on our agenda uh which is a moratorum to
[35:41] put a six-month moratorum on any future
[35:45] um applications so we can amend our
[35:47] ordinances. Um, however, this one has
[35:49] been applied under our current
[35:50] ordinances. So it wouldn't be a wouldn't
[35:53] uh go through on the moratorum. Um if we
[35:57] want to restrict their size,
[36:00] >> let's establish that restriction. That's
[36:01] for the council. If we want to regulate
[36:03] where they can be located, we can do
[36:04] that. If we want to protect how they're
[36:08] put up on the wall, we can do that. If
[36:10] we want to specify rules of uh um
[36:16] whatever we want to do as a commission,
[36:17] as a council, then everyone knows what
[36:19] the rules are. property owners know, the
[36:21] historic commission knows, and if it's
[36:24] appealed, we know what the rules are.
[36:26] But those specific regulations don't
[36:28] exist in our ordinance today. With all
[36:30] that said, um the historic district
[36:32] commission, I think, has already
[36:34] considered this particular mural. Even
[36:36] though a permit
[36:38] um application was not formally filed
[36:41] beforehand, this particular mural
[36:44] nevertheless came before the commission.
[36:47] considered it um heard
[36:50] all the facts and made a decision
[36:53] concerning it. Um the the motion that
[36:57] was made by the commission and I quote I
[37:00] have the exact motion. Uh motion is that
[37:03] the tailor be asked to remove the sign
[37:05] within 60 days. If the sign is not
[37:07] removed within 60 days that they be
[37:10] fined the minimum amount authorized by
[37:12] the code of $50 per day until it's
[37:14] removed. the sign is not removed within
[37:16] 60 days that the city attorney take
[37:18] action to have it removed through the
[37:20] judicial system and then it was seconded
[37:22] and voted on. Uh and that's that's was
[37:24] before us now is that motion. So again,
[37:26] our ordinance expressly states that this
[37:29] council should have the right to
[37:30] reverse, change, or modify any decision
[37:33] of the historic commission. So I don't
[37:34] believe our only options tonight are
[37:36] either to affirm their decision or send
[37:39] these people back at the whole beginning
[37:41] of the process. We've seen the mural. We
[37:44] all know what it looks like. We've been
[37:46] there.
[37:48] We know where it is. We know it's how
[37:50] it's attached. The historic commission
[37:51] has considered it. They made their
[37:53] decision. The tailor have appealed it.
[37:55] Both sides have had the opportunity to
[37:57] be heard. And now the ordinance gives us
[37:59] the responsibility to make that
[38:00] decision. I don't see the benefit of
[38:03] telling the tailor, "Go file an
[38:04] application for this exact same mural.
[38:06] go back before the commission again,
[38:08] have another hearing, get another
[38:10] decision, and if you disagree with that
[38:12] decision, come back here. We're going to
[38:14] do this all over again. We're already
[38:16] here. It's already been adjudicated.
[38:18] Um, and again, I want to make something
[38:21] very clear. I'm not saying that they
[38:23] were right to put this mural up without
[38:25] obtaining a permit. Uh, they should have
[38:27] gotten a permit. There's other things
[38:29] out there, not just what's been
[38:31] discussed tonight. There's other things
[38:33] out there in the historic district that
[38:34] haven't gotten permits. um they should
[38:37] get permits. So, we're not here, we
[38:39] don't police that, you know, that's not what we do is um but there's
[38:44] a process that they should go through
[38:46] and if it gets
[38:49] maybe some things need to come before
[38:50] us. That's all I'm going to say. Um
[38:53] nothing I'm proposing tonight should be
[38:55] interpreted to mean that somebody can
[38:56] leave here, go put a mural on some or
[38:59] alter some other building, historic
[39:01] district, and then come ask for
[39:02] forgiveness. In fact, I believe there
[39:04] should be a consequence for failing to
[39:06] follow the permitting process. And
[39:08] that's one portion of the commission's
[39:10] decision that maybe some council members
[39:13] may we might want to discuss to modify,
[39:16] but that's separate from the question of
[39:17] whether the mural should be removed.
[39:20] Failing to obtain the permit beforehand
[39:22] doesn't necessarily mean that an
[39:23] alteration that otherwise satisfies the
[39:26] standards
[39:28] were required to apply must be torn
[39:31] down.
[39:32] Um, and based on the ordinance exists
[39:34] today, based on the Department of
[39:35] Interior standards and our ordinance
[39:37] specifically directs us to follow, based
[39:39] upon the facts concerning this
[39:41] particular mural, I do not find
[39:43] substantive basis under our current
[39:45] ordinance requiring this mural to be
[39:47] removed. Um,
[39:50] the ordinance itself provides for the
[39:52] appeal and the fact it expressly gives
[39:54] us the authority to reverse, change or
[39:56] modify means there will be occasion when
[39:58] this council reaches a different
[39:59] conclusion. us while the appeal process
[40:01] is there. Yet again, uh that isn't the
[40:04] council against the commission. I
[40:06] believe the real problem here is that
[40:07] our ordinance has not kept up with the
[40:09] issue, has been very vague, and now it's
[40:12] in front of us for the first time. And
[40:15] yet again, that's our responsibility and
[40:16] that's our responsibility to fix it. Um
[40:22] so
[40:25] are we ready to make a motion? Do you
[40:26] want to talk?
[40:27] >> Make a motion. I think we need to talk.
[40:29] >> Okay,
[40:31] >> let's talk.
[40:32] >> I would just like to echo that um
[40:37] when this blew up, I happened to be over
[40:41] in Texas at Lake of the Pines.
[40:45] And the the next morning, I got several
[40:48] phone calls that day. Next morning went
[40:51] over to Jefferson, Texas and went to eat
[40:56] at Annie's Steamboat Cafe and walked
[41:01] around the building, the first thing I
[41:03] see is a big huge river steamboat u on
[41:07] the side of the building and it's
[41:08] gorgeous. I love uh murals, but on the
[41:12] front of the building there's a historic
[41:14] landmark plaque. So, you know, right off
[41:17] the bat, um, it and I found that later
[41:21] on there's three or four murals in their
[41:23] town. They all fit the historic
[41:26] ambiance, if you will, of the thing. So,
[41:29] it didn't didn't bother me. But in when
[41:32] I got back, um, happened to go by, got a
[41:36] burger from Stony's at Tasty Boy. And
[41:40] while I was there, four people,
[41:41] different groups came in in the 12m
[41:44] minute time I was there to take a
[41:46] picture of the mural before we made them
[41:48] take it down. So, uh, just a pop popular
[41:53] appeal. Uh, I don't think there's
[41:55] anybody that dislikes the content of the
[41:57] mural. However, we got two issues going
[42:00] on that Councilman Harrington
[42:03] um very eloquently went over. Uh we've
[42:06] got an out ofdate ordinance which
[42:09] appears to keep surfacing in our
[42:12] planning and zoning. Um a lot of them
[42:15] are old and they need to be redone. And
[42:18] I think maybe next year we can look at
[42:20] that and try to catch up on a lot of
[42:23] these. But some of us on this council
[42:27] have served on commissions where an
[42:30] issue gets out of hand and you really
[42:33] get your ears pinned back and you're
[42:34] doing it and they add another zero to
[42:37] the amount you get in your paycheck. Um
[42:40] it's not it a lot of times it it can be
[42:43] very thankless. Um, but it's an
[42:46] important job and
[42:50] you know
[42:52] it's got to be we've got to take care of
[42:55] our historic landmark district. The
[42:58] second issue is not getting a permit and
[43:01] it's imperative that we follow our
[43:04] permitting process especially in the
[43:08] landmark district. The commission is
[43:11] tasked with upholding the integrity of
[43:14] the district and that at times is so
[43:17] misunderstood by the general public.
[43:20] They have no idea what that entails with
[43:23] zero lot lines, almost no off- streetet
[43:26] parking and buildings that are well over
[43:28] a hundred years old. It's a special task
[43:31] to maintain that status while you're
[43:34] trying to integrate it with the rest of
[43:36] the city. And I commend each and every
[43:39] commissioner that's on that commission
[43:41] for serving because it's a it's a very
[43:43] tough job, but it's very important and
[43:47] to do things without a permit each and
[43:50] every time we do that. Are there some
[43:53] that slip through the cracks? Absolutely
[43:56] there are. But each and every one can
[43:59] have an adverse effect on the entire
[44:02] district. So, we've got to uphold it.
[44:05] That commission is extremely important
[44:08] to us. I grew up in New Orleans. One of
[44:11] the things that I fell in love with in
[44:14] Nacadesh
[44:15] was the landmark district, which wasn't
[44:18] designated yet, but I got to watch it
[44:21] grow after it became a landmark
[44:24] district. It opened up the door to
[44:26] facade grants to and people began buying
[44:29] property, investing in it, and you had
[44:32] the downtown that you have today. And if
[44:35] you didn't have that commission back in
[44:36] that, it wouldn't be that way. And so
[44:41] for that reason, I think not getting a
[44:44] permit is more bothersome to me than
[44:49] um whether we allow murals or we don't.
[44:52] As Councilman Harrington stated, um,
[44:56] we'll have a chance to address that.
[44:59] Hopefully, we'll pass that as a body to
[45:01] do the moratorum on murals and be able
[45:04] to come back and visit that
[45:06] intelligently, have public forums and invite the public to be involved and
[45:12] consider how we're going to do that. But
[45:14] uh I am very much uh I think we figured
[45:19] the the fine from when it was put up or
[45:23] from the meeting to now would be
[45:26] approximately 1350. That would be my u
[45:32] recommendation to leave the sign up, pay
[45:36] the fine of 1350
[45:39] or remove the sign and no fine.
[45:43] Well, I tell you I just want to say
[45:45] this. I have as I said earlier and I
[45:48] agree with everything uh Councilman
[45:50] Harrington and Councilman Nielson has
[45:53] said. I think most of us here agree with
[45:55] the fact that the
[45:58] sign was put up without a permit.
[46:02] You know, there are rules and
[46:04] regulations that have to be followed
[46:06] that should have been followed. So, my
[46:08] main concern was the fact that it was
[46:11] put up without a permit. I have no
[46:13] objection to the mural itself. It's I
[46:15] think it's beautiful. I love it. I've
[46:17] traveled so many places and I've seen
[46:20] murals. Um just recently came from
[46:22] Monroe and in their downtown area there are murals all over over in
[46:28] Nacadocious Texas murals. Lufkin, Texas
[46:31] as Dell said, Jefferson, Texas. This is the thing now. People have a way
[46:39] of trying to express themselves through
[46:41] painting.
[46:42] and and I I think it's nice. I think it
[46:45] adds to the area and I agree that a fine
[46:49] should be in place and
[46:54] leave the mirror up. But um I think
[46:58] penalty needs to be in place. I put it
[47:00] that way for not abiding by the permit
[47:04] that's been should have been done.
[47:08] Council
[47:09] >> washi any comments?
[47:13] Oh, no.
[47:15] I don't have anything. Okay.
[47:18] >> I like the burgers though.
[47:19] >> I'm just
[47:20] >> You like burgers?
[47:22] >> She talking about tasty boy.
[47:23] >> Tasty boy.
[47:26] >> Councilman PT.
[47:27] >> I'm just a bit concerned. Uh you had the
[47:30] fellow Mr. Gileia. He had mentioned
[47:32] about the Bank of Montgomery with them
[47:33] having their artwork and I just it's
[47:37] kind of difficult because if we're going
[47:39] to find you know them for their piece
[47:41] then how do we remedy that?
[47:43] >> That's true.
[47:44] >> Uh
[47:46] I like the artwork. I I figured it
[47:48] probably would make it to us. But
[47:50] >> I think at this point we just kind of
[47:51] dealing with an outdated ordinance and
[47:54] so maybe we put a hold, you know, until
[47:56] we get that situated. But
[47:59] >> I don't think that we get them to tear
[48:01] it down or move it. I think we just kind
[48:03] of like move forward from here.
[48:06] >> And I don't I don't think it's fair if
[48:08] we try to find
[48:12] >> I don't I don't know about that. I I say
[48:14] that because I don't know when did he
[48:16] ever say when the Bank of Montgomery was
[48:18] put up? What year was that?
[48:20] >> 2014.
[48:26] » Yeah. And then I just say I say a fine
[48:28] and I'm not I'm not I'm opposed to a
[48:31] fine of$350
[48:34] but I just feel that if something is not
[48:37] you know you you're going to have people
[48:38] coming just putting up something but I
[48:40] don't have to I'm not going to get
[48:41] penalized for it. I can put it up. I'm
[48:43] not there's no repercussion.
[48:45] >> So something I think needs to be in
[48:47] place. If not a fine something needs if
[48:50] not that big of a fine. Something needs
[48:52] to be in place.
[48:54] I I see both I see both sides of it. Uh
[48:59] I see a side of of doing a fine and and
[49:02] our ordinances say a minimum of $50 a
[49:05] day. Uh but it doesn't necessarily state
[49:09] when that day begins.
[49:10] >> No.
[49:11] >> Um
[49:13] >> up to $100 a day. Um, but
[49:17] because I see I see the side
[49:20] for the fine because if we don't then
[49:24] there's nothing to to stop anyone from
[49:26] just putting anything up without a
[49:27] permit and being like sure I'll get one
[49:29] later, whatever. Because there's no
[49:32] negative recourse to them. There's
[49:33] nothing there's no you know if we have a
[49:36] fine now might keep people from doing
[49:39] so. But I I see this point.
[49:42] >> Mhm. I do too.
[49:43] >> That there's others. Why haven't they
[49:44] been fined? Uh, how can you find one and
[49:46] out the other?
[49:50] » What if you donated the fine to the
[49:53] historic district through Main Street
[49:56] and it went back to improvements in the
[49:59] historic district?
[50:01] >> I.e. maybe the signs that say Tasty Boy
[50:04] that way.
[50:05] >> Well, all those signs are outdated.
[50:07] Yeah,
[50:07] >> they're all outdated.
[50:08] >> Yeah, there's businesses that aren't
[50:09] there anymore. There's Yeah. And maybe
[50:11] the Bank of Montgomery would graciously
[50:14] give a donation to the historic
[50:16] district.
[50:17] >> They might do that.
[50:20] >> Yep.
[50:20] >> Great idea. If anybody here from Bank of
[50:22] Montgomery listening, Great idea.
[50:25] >> All right. You got something else,
[50:28] Eddie?
[50:31] » I don't know.
[50:32] >> Okay. All right. At this time, we do
[50:34] want to allow We've heard from attorney
[50:37] representing the Taylor. We've heard
[50:39] from member of the historic district
[50:41] commission, city council, and we've
[50:43] given them latitude to go beyond of
[50:45] course the 3 minutes, but we are going
[50:47] to in the interest of time, we are going
[50:48] to have to strictly enforce
[50:51] um the 3 minutes at this point. Um just
[50:54] to just as a reminder, we certainly
[50:58] don't want to be repetitive. Um so if a
[51:01] comment has already been made, you know,
[51:04] hey, just
[51:06] you can let that be.
[51:08] um that we it's already in the record if
[51:10] you will. So, we do want to allow some
[51:12] time and again Mrs. Stacy is going to be
[51:14] my time keeper hand goes up that lets us
[51:16] know the 3 minutes has expired. So, if
[51:19] there's anything anybody uh does want to
[51:22] say at this point, we don't have a
[51:24] motion yet, but I kind of see where it's
[51:26] going. So, um, but we do want to allow
[51:29] individuals who may want to speak and
[51:30] then when you get to the microphone,
[51:33] please state your first and last name
[51:34] and then you can get into your remarks
[51:36] and your three minutes will start at the
[51:37] time um when when your name is uh called
[51:40] out. Yes, ma'am.
[51:48] » Hi, I'm Elizabeth Eers. Um, I do a lot
[51:51] of the Facebook stuff. I don't do
[51:53] anything else, just Facebook. and I am a
[51:56] part of a lot of the groups in there and
[51:58] I didn't start a lot of it. I did start
[52:01] a lot of it but not the polls and
[52:03] everything. Um, on the online polls
[52:07] right now we are at 357
[52:10] signatures and that was just a couple of
[52:12] days ago. I haven't checked it recently
[52:14] and I want to say in one of the groups
[52:17] there was
[52:18] like a like a poll or something. and it
[52:20] was in the thousands that was in
[52:22] Nacadesh to keep it up and then on Saint
[52:26] Deny we've had people coming in from
[52:28] Delaware, Austin, everywhere to keep it.
[52:31] I understand a fine needs to be in place
[52:34] but we also do a bunch of community work
[52:37] too. So maybe instead of a fine we do
[52:41] community work. You know there's some
[52:43] compromises we can make here but the
[52:46] community does love it. I have the
[52:48] petitions
[52:50] and the pictures and everything on
[52:52] Facebook if y'all need anything. I'm
[52:53] really nervous,
[52:56] but that's really all I have to say is
[52:59] the community does love it and y'all
[53:01] trust me with it. I've never like
[53:03] steered y'all wrong on anything and I
[53:06] promise that we won't do anything else
[53:08] and we'll get right permits. I promise.
[53:11] Just leave it up.
[53:14] >> All right. Thank you, ma'am.
[53:21] Any other comments people feel they need
[53:23] to be made? All right, we got one coming
[53:24] in the back.
[53:37] » It's a very nice sign. My name is
[53:38] Deborah Thompson and I think um the I
[53:43] think we're missing the point. The the point is if there is a permit that's
[53:52] required
[53:54] and you don't get the permit
[53:56] expecting that you're going to be
[53:58] denied, which is what she said. That was
[54:00] the reason given that they did not
[54:02] request the permit.
[54:05] If you don't get the the permit and
[54:07] expect that you're going to accept it
[54:10] anyway once it's up, there's a problem.
[54:13] And I think that's a problem. not just
[54:15] for this issue but any other issues that
[54:19] we might face in our city. So we need to
[54:22] consider that
[54:24] uh
[54:27] I understand the sign you can take it
[54:30] down until the permit is is it's completed just you leave it put
[54:36] it back up when it's legal but until
[54:39] it's legal then it shouldn't be up. I
[54:42] don't care how pretty it is. Uh it's not
[54:45] legal. It's not always done correctly
[54:48] and we need to make sure that things are
[54:50] done decently and in order.
[54:52] >> Thank you.
[54:54] Mr. Thompson.
[54:56] >> Right.
[54:57] >> Okay. Any other comments?
[55:03] » All right. We got one coming here.
[55:08] » Jared, I know I'm not speaking on behalf
[55:10] of the commission. Miss Alter did an
[55:11] excellent job. I want to thank y'all. I
[55:13] know that y'all spent a lot of time
[55:15] working on this and we appreciate it.
[55:17] Um,
[55:19] I don't think the commission has
[55:21] expressed an opinion on whether or not
[55:24] we should or shouldn't have murals. Um,
[55:26] I think that's not a decision that we've
[55:28] made. But I I do would just want to
[55:31] caution the council.
[55:33] Once you if you vote to allow this to go
[55:37] up, Katie bar the doors because once you
[55:41] allow one mural to go up, we can't
[55:43] prevent any other ones from going up. So
[55:46] this decision is important and I I would just caution you all to think
[55:50] about it. So
[55:53] >> I will say to that that this one of
[55:56] course we're only voting on this one
[55:57] individually but we do have later in our
[56:00] agenda that moratorum from if it's
[56:03] passed that from today moving for 6
[56:06] months no mural application will be
[56:09] accepted and to our ordinances are
[56:12] amended um which however I can't say how
[56:16] they'll be amended it's I'm only one
[56:18] vote and one decision but they'll be
[56:21] regulated in some form of way. So,
[56:24] what's before us today isn't going to be
[56:26] the same. Um, this is I just wanted to
[56:28] say that uh and I did look and um
[56:34] where' I put it? Oh,
[56:37] I did look and and uh and Alex
[56:40] Washington, our city attorney, we looked
[56:42] at it together and our our ordinances
[56:45] under penalties for violations does
[56:47] state
[56:49] that
[56:52] uh any owner who violates the store
[56:55] district ordinance or laws
[56:58] shall be fined not less than $50, no
[57:01] more than $100 for each infraction. It
[57:04] says each day the violation continues is
[57:07] a separate offense. So that's now where
[57:10] I looked at that and that's when I went
[57:11] and talked to that word shall is what
[57:14] stuck out to me. We we don't have I
[57:18] don't see us having a say of getting
[57:19] around the shall. Would you agree with
[57:22] that?
[57:22] >> Yeah, I agree with that.
[57:23] >> Um
[57:24] >> and plus the the commission in their
[57:26] ruling issued um penalties and so if we
[57:31] are concurrent with that but modifying
[57:34] at the same time I think we
[57:36] >> Yeah. So
[57:42] » based on the date of the meeting to now,
[57:45] >> that's what I think
[57:46] >> that's where we came up with that. not
[57:49] go as far back as when it was initially
[57:51] installed, but when they had the
[57:53] meeting, which is when they're directly
[57:55] told
[57:56] >> you violated this.
[57:58] >> And that's what you that's 50 days. $50
[58:01] a day, which was the minimum amount
[58:03] >> starting the next day after the meeting
[58:06] till today is $1,350.
[58:10] >> Um,
[58:13] » okay. Has a permit been applied for
[58:16] since then? Yes,
[58:18] >> it has been applied. Okay, because she
[58:20] spoke. So, it was applied for
[58:23] purposes. We went and looked
[58:24] >> that was not for the
[58:25] >> application that was filed. I don't
[58:28] think includes the the mural. Chris, you
[58:31] might correct me if I'm wrong. We went
[58:32] and looked. There was there is an
[58:34] application that's been filed, but I
[58:36] think it only pertains to the fencing,
[58:38] the lighting. I don't think an actual
[58:41] permit on the site,
[58:46] » but you had a
[58:49] >> they had a meeting just
[58:52] on the mirror.
[58:53] >> They had the
[58:53] >> Yeah. Can we speak in the mic, please,
[58:55] for the minutes if you don't mind?
[58:58] >> And we need y'all to speak in the mic
[58:59] for the minutes and for our audience
[59:02] that's online.
[59:03] >> It was filed the following day. This is
[59:05] Chris Gillette. It was filed the day
[59:08] after the meeting because the count the
[59:10] commission requested that they do so and
[59:13] so they did. They said, "We think y'all
[59:14] need to file an application for the
[59:16] artwork and several other things, too."
[59:19] So, they did file that and all of that's
[59:22] included in the pending application.
[59:25] >> Was a sign, you had a comment?
[59:28] >> No.
[59:29] >> When we looked at it, the sign was a
[59:31] sign in the packet this morning.
[59:33] >> I didn't see it checked off.
[59:36] I can get the original
[59:37] >> the application checks off for signage
[59:39] and then it lists some other reasons. Um
[59:42] but we have not ruled on this
[59:44] application. It's it's before it's
[59:46] before us next month I guess
[59:49] >> money meeting. So
[59:51] >> okay rule
[59:52] >> I'll go I'll go ahead and
[59:54] >> they rule.
[59:55] >> Yeah. Uh I'll go ahead and due to the
[59:59] fact that uh this matter on the mural I
[1:00:04] believe has already been adjudicated and
[1:00:06] really technically a permit hearing has
[1:00:08] been heard even though one wasn't filed
[1:00:10] at the time. I move that the city
[1:00:12] council pursuant to this authority on
[1:00:14] appeal to reverse change or modify
[1:00:16] decision of the store district
[1:00:17] commission affirm in part reverse in
[1:00:20] part and modify the decision as follows.
[1:00:23] Uh, first I move that we modify the
[1:00:27] commission's
[1:00:29] decision of the $50 per day fine
[1:00:32] beginning after a 60-day period
[1:00:35] and instead
[1:00:37] based on our ordinances
[1:00:40] uh have it begin from July 29th, which
[1:00:43] was the day after their meeting to today
[1:00:47] ends at $50 a day for a total fine of
[1:00:50] $1,350.
[1:00:52] Also, I move that we reverse the portion
[1:00:54] of the commission's decision requiring
[1:00:56] the mural to be removed. I further move
[1:00:58] that we modify the commission's decision
[1:01:01] to approve this mural in its present
[1:01:03] form, as present location, and allow it
[1:01:05] to remain.
[1:01:07] >> Second.
[1:01:09] >> Okay. Motion made and seconded.
[1:01:13] We've already asked for comments,
[1:01:16] so
[1:01:18] >> All right. Say your first and last name,
[1:01:20] please.
[1:01:23] I'm Nancy Thomas and I'm confused here.
[1:01:26] You're finding one group of people yet
[1:01:31] the Bank of Montgomery has been up for
[1:01:34] years and has had no consequences. Will
[1:01:38] there be consequences against the Bank
[1:01:40] of Montgomery?
[1:01:43] >> A mural is a mural.
[1:01:45] >> There needs to be.
[1:01:46] >> That's not a It needs to be.
[1:01:47] >> There needs to be.
[1:01:48] >> It needs to be,
[1:01:49] >> but it's not an agenda item today. It
[1:01:51] needs to be since they are in the
[1:01:53] landmark district.
[1:01:55] >> City attorney Washington.
[1:01:56] >> Yeah. It's not an agenda item today, but
[1:01:58] >> yeah,
[1:01:58] >> it sounds like the council will and
[1:02:00] administration may address that.
[1:02:02] >> I'm sorry.
[1:02:02] >> It's not on the agenda today for us to
[1:02:04] kind of discuss.
[1:02:05] >> Oh, you will um attend to that at a
[1:02:08] later date.
[1:02:09] >> It sounds like from administration and
[1:02:11] the council we will
[1:02:12] >> Okay.
[1:02:12] >> discuss with them.
[1:02:14] >> Yeah. Because this today we're only here
[1:02:15] for for this one. the
[1:02:19] but that it needs to be. I agree with
[1:02:21] you.
[1:02:22] >> All right. Okay. We've got a motion.
[1:02:25] We've got a second.
[1:02:27] >> Mrs. Stacy, roll call vote.
[1:02:29] >> Eli,
[1:02:30] >> yes.
[1:02:30] >> Nelson,
[1:02:31] >> yes.
[1:02:31] >> Smith Kirkindall,
[1:02:33] >> yes.
[1:02:33] >> Harington,
[1:02:34] >> yes.
[1:02:34] >> PT,
[1:02:35] >> yes.
[1:02:35] >> All right, the motion carries. All
[1:02:38] right, our next agenda item.
[1:02:43] We have a proclamation and is read by
[1:02:45] Councilman PT. Thank you, mayor.
[1:02:47] Resolution number 058 of 2026, a
[1:02:51] proclamation declaring September
[1:02:53] 2026
[1:02:56] as national
[1:02:57] >> Councilman PT. Hold on. We got some
[1:02:59] Yeah, this makes sense.
[1:03:02] >> As people are leaving now.
[1:03:04] >> Okay. Thank you, sir.
[1:03:10] » Is the person here who did the mural
[1:03:12] >> or not?
[1:03:13] >> No, he's not here.
[1:03:16] I could make these out of town.
[1:03:18] >> The artist. You mean
[1:03:19] >> the artist? Yeah, the artist.
[1:03:23] >> Right.
[1:03:24] >> Okay. All right. Councilman, you can go.
[1:03:27] >> Uh proclamation declaring September 2026
[1:03:31] as national sick cell awareness month in
[1:03:33] the city of Nagades. Whereas September
[1:03:35] is national sickell awareness month. The
[1:03:38] observance passed by congressional
[1:03:40] resolution in 1983 was endorsed through
[1:03:43] presidential proclamation which spoke to
[1:03:46] the national progress that had been made
[1:03:48] to diagnose and treat sickle cell
[1:03:50] disease. Whereas the proclamation also
[1:03:54] cited the success of comprehensive
[1:03:56] cickle cell centers across the United
[1:03:58] States in establishing programs of
[1:04:01] research, training and community service
[1:04:04] to address sickle cell disorder, a blood
[1:04:06] disorder causing abnormalities in
[1:04:09] hemoglobin leading to the tailtale
[1:04:12] sickle shape in sufferers red blood
[1:04:14] cells. Whereas in the past decade there
[1:04:18] has been substantial progress in
[1:04:19] research on cickle cell disease
[1:04:22] diagnostic procedures have greatly
[1:04:24] improved. Whereas sickle cell disease
[1:04:27] pre prevents presents grave health
[1:04:30] challenges for an estimated 100,000
[1:04:33] Americans. For some it triggers episodes
[1:04:36] of pain, difficulty with vision and
[1:04:39] serious fatigue. Other survivors
[1:04:42] experience this disease more acutely.
[1:04:45] Sickle cell disease can cause
[1:04:48] infections, strokes, and even organ
[1:04:50] failure. Whereas for almost everyone
[1:04:53] impacted, coping with the inherited red
[1:04:56] blood cell disorder means putting plans
[1:04:59] off, on pause, living with excruciating
[1:05:02] pain, paying for expensive treatments,
[1:05:05] and hoping for a day when medications
[1:05:07] and doctor visits no longer interrupt
[1:05:10] life.
[1:05:11] Whereas during National Sickle Awareness
[1:05:13] Month, we recognize the persever
[1:05:16] perseverance of sickle cell disorder
[1:05:18] patients and we recommmit to working
[1:05:20] with our partners in state and local
[1:05:22] government, the nonprofit space and the
[1:05:25] private sector to develop treatments and cures for this debilitating disease.
[1:05:33] Whereas sickle cell disorder affects our
[1:05:36] population unevenly.
[1:05:39] Black and brown Americans are
[1:05:40] disproportionately affected. About 1 in
[1:05:43] 13 black children test positive for the
[1:05:46] sickle cell trait and about 1 in 365
[1:05:49] black Americans develop the disease over
[1:05:52] the course of their lifetime. Due to
[1:05:55] persistent systemic inequalities in our
[1:05:58] health care system, these fame patients
[1:06:00] are often last to get help.
[1:06:04] Whereas as we continue to research to
[1:06:06] find a cure for sick cell disease, let
[1:06:09] us celebrate the strides our health
[1:06:11] experts have made in understanding and
[1:06:13] treating this condition. Let let us
[1:06:15] continue to offer support to those
[1:06:17] that's battling every day. May I so move
[1:06:20] to adopt resolution number 058?
[1:06:24] >> Second.
[1:06:25] >> Motion made and seconded. Um, look, I
[1:06:29] mean, you read about the facts and uh,
[1:06:32] who is affected disproportionately and
[1:06:35] um, I think there's been some, we may
[1:06:38] have mentioned this last year, there
[1:06:39] have been some um, developments in six
[1:06:42] cell research, which is great. And so,
[1:06:44] we want to continue to bring attention.
[1:06:46] I do know there's an announcement later
[1:06:48] on well where um uh the women of Delta
[1:06:53] Sigma Theta have an event plans center
[1:06:56] around um sick cell information and
[1:07:00] things of that nature. So again I think
[1:07:02] Miss Julie are you here for this
[1:07:04] particular proclamation? any remarks you
[1:07:06] have or
[1:07:07] >> I would like to do the activities that
[1:07:10] we plan.
[1:07:11] >> Come on, say it on the mic front of your
[1:07:13] mind. State your first and last name and
[1:07:15] then whatever remarks you have.
[1:07:18] >> Judith Hayes.
[1:07:20] I'm here uh this is our sixth year and
[1:07:24] I'm coming in
[1:07:26] um the presence for uh the crew of
[1:07:30] excellence Delta Sigma Theta and other
[1:07:34] uh resource persons that will be
[1:07:37] participating in our endeavor to
[1:07:41] continue to um educate our system
[1:07:47] because this is a a deadly their disease
[1:07:50] and it's very painful for our young
[1:07:53] people when they have discovered that
[1:07:56] they have this disease.
[1:07:59] Now, um the crew of excellence will be
[1:08:03] giving out ribbons uh at the different
[1:08:06] uh uh stores and this is to get more
[1:08:12] people aware of the syel disease. On de
[1:08:17] on September the 19th from 10 to 12 at
[1:08:22] the m Martin Luther King Center, uh
[1:08:25] Delta Sigma Theta will host uh the
[1:08:29] annual sickle cell uh awareness event
[1:08:33] along with the outpatient clinic
[1:08:36] uh scarf.
[1:08:38] This is the sickle cell resource center
[1:08:41] in Alexandria, Louisiana. Zeta Faba
[1:08:44] sority and lastly but not least crew of
[1:08:49] excellence. Surely we want to give blood
[1:08:52] for those that are able to and it was
[1:08:56] announced that we are it is a shortage
[1:09:00] for uh donation of blood. So we need
[1:09:04] everybody
[1:09:05] uh collectively to come out and give
[1:09:08] blood.
[1:09:10] um the everyone can play a part in this
[1:09:15] effort and I would like to thank you for
[1:09:18] your time and consideration for having
[1:09:22] this month sickle cell anemia awareness
[1:09:25] month.
[1:09:26] >> Thank you so much ma'am. We appreciate
[1:09:28] you look and um again thank you for the
[1:09:31] work that you all are doing.
[1:09:32] >> All right.
[1:09:33] >> Did we have a I think we had a motion in
[1:09:34] a second.
[1:09:35] >> Any comment about this proclamation? I
[1:09:38] speak to mar just real quick. So I
[1:09:41] myself I have a trait. Uh I had a
[1:09:43] brother that passed. Uh he actually had
[1:09:46] the fullon sickle cell. My nephew Landon Hicks he had sickle cell but like
[1:09:52] right now he's in the process of going
[1:09:54] to like New Orleans to see if he'll
[1:09:56] qualify for like a transplant with the
[1:09:58] like stem cells. And so he had like a
[1:10:01] lot of blood work done. So it's a
[1:10:03] possibility that he can possibly like be
[1:10:05] cured. Like they had one guy, I forget
[1:10:08] where he was from. I think it was
[1:10:09] Louisiana,
[1:10:10] >> but he had a successful uh transplant.
[1:10:13] >> Wow.
[1:10:13] >> Yeah,
[1:10:14] >> that's good,
[1:10:16] >> man.
[1:10:17] >> Madison is making some improvements,
[1:10:19] right?
[1:10:20] >> So, we hope that uh
[1:10:21] >> So, I see that often like, you know,
[1:10:22] where they talked about like being in
[1:10:24] pain and stuff like that. I mean, it's really tough on them and he's only
[1:10:28] like 10 years old, you know, so it it be
[1:10:30] Yeah. When they when they go into a
[1:10:32] crisis, it be can be pretty rough.
[1:10:34] >> Yeah.
[1:10:37] All righty.
[1:10:42] » Excellence to come and we can take a
[1:10:45] picture. I think
[1:10:48] >> Okay. Or you want to do it? We could
[1:10:50] take one with you.
[1:10:51] >> Yeah. Come on. We'll just do you.
[1:10:55] >> Oh, crew of excellent delta. Hey. Oh,
[1:10:57] you y'all want to approve if I come back
[1:10:59] first?
[1:11:00] >> Hey, Mrs. Stacy. Real combo. Miss Judy,
[1:11:03] you don't have to go too far. That's
[1:11:05] okay.
[1:11:06] >> Eli,
[1:11:07] >> uh, yes.
[1:11:08] >> Nelson,
[1:11:09] >> yes.
[1:11:10] >> Smith Kirkindall,
[1:11:11] >> yes.
[1:11:12] >> Harington,
[1:11:12] >> yes.
[1:11:13] >> PT,
[1:11:13] >> yes.
[1:11:14] >> All right, that motion carries. All
[1:11:15] right, Miss Shooter.
[1:11:23] » Yeah. Yeah.
[1:11:26] Oh,
[1:11:28] that's
[1:11:30] too
[1:11:51] » big.
[1:12:05] They have too many meals.
[1:12:30] Appreciate y'all crew of excellence in
[1:12:32] Deltas. What community organization
[1:12:35] should be doing. Continue to bring that positive attention. All right.
[1:12:40] Next, we have another proclamation. It's
[1:12:42] read by Councilman Nielson.
[1:12:43] >> Thank you, Mayor. I'm getting hungry
[1:12:45] just looking at this one. Resolution
[1:12:48] number 61 of 2026, proclamation
[1:12:51] declaring September 18th and 19th, 2026
[1:12:56] as Nacades meat pie festival days in the
[1:12:59] city of Nacadesh. Whereas records show
[1:13:02] that the concept of the meat pie took
[1:13:04] shape in the mid 1700s in Louisiana by
[1:13:08] Native Americans and later enhanced by
[1:13:10] the Spanish. And whereas 56 years ago,
[1:13:14] James Lzion opened up his meat pie
[1:13:17] kitchen, which is still in operation
[1:13:19] today in historic downtown Nacadesh. And
[1:13:23] whereas the recipe of the meat pie has
[1:13:25] changed slightly from its inception and
[1:13:27] has been handed down from generation to
[1:13:29] generation. However, the basic
[1:13:32] ingredient and the process for creating
[1:13:34] a meat pie remains the same. And whereas
[1:13:37] with the abundance with an abundance of
[1:13:40] excitement in 2002, the Nacadish Meat
[1:13:43] Pie Festival was formed to celebrate the
[1:13:46] noted culinary staple in Nacades,
[1:13:49] Louisiana. And whereas in 2003, the
[1:13:52] Nacadish Meat Pie was named Louisiana's
[1:13:55] official meat pie. And Nacades was one
[1:13:58] of the last cities to not have an
[1:14:01] identified food festival until 2002. And
[1:14:05] whereas the annual festival attracts
[1:14:07] visitors from throughout the state in
[1:14:10] over a dozen of other states as well
[1:14:12] each year. And whereas the festival has
[1:14:15] always been a familyoriented
[1:14:18] non-admission required event over a
[1:14:20] two-day period in downtown Nacades
[1:14:24] helping to enhance the area's economy
[1:14:26] with individual activities that can be
[1:14:28] enjoyed at a small fee. And whereas the
[1:14:31] organizing committee for the festival is
[1:14:34] a complete volunteer committee. And
[1:14:36] whereas the Knackers Meepot Festival is
[1:14:39] returning by popular demand after a
[1:14:42] two-year break due to the novel Corona virus that needs to be taken out
[1:14:48] of there. Now therefore, I Ronnie
[1:14:50] Williams Jr. and the Nacades City
[1:14:52] Council do hereby proclaim September 18
[1:14:56] and 19, 2026 as Nakadesh meat pie
[1:15:00] festival dates.
[1:15:01] >> Oh, I see what you're saying.
[1:15:02] >> That we adopt resolution number 61 of
[1:15:05] 2026.
[1:15:06] >> Second.
[1:15:07] >> All right. Motion is made and second. I
[1:15:10] see what you're saying, Councilman Nson.
[1:15:12] So, we'll get that out for next year's
[1:15:15] proclamation. Hey, we just we've been
[1:15:17] doing these proclamations about it.
[1:15:20] um concern in regarding each of our
[1:15:24] festivals just kind of bring some
[1:15:25] attention. Obviously, we do videos as
[1:15:27] well. We dropped a video today on the
[1:15:28] Zidatico Festival. This particular
[1:15:30] festival is, as we see up here, the 18th
[1:15:34] and the 19th of September. Um so, we're
[1:15:37] looking forward and it's a while the
[1:15:38] Zadico Festival Chief is only $20 on
[1:15:42] that Saturday and Friday is free, but um
[1:15:45] what the Meep folks like to say, they're
[1:15:47] totally free all weekend. um admission
[1:15:50] that is obviously um any food you want
[1:15:53] you have to pay for that drinks and um
[1:15:56] they have some they have some rides and
[1:15:58] things like that. So it's going to be a
[1:16:00] fun weekend like I said already we're
[1:16:01] getting into a busy busy season.
[1:16:04] Christmas fest is coming obviously but
[1:16:05] even before that um like we said we'll
[1:16:09] talk about the Bigfoot um we've got
[1:16:12] Meepi, you've got the car show, you've
[1:16:14] got Top of the Boot, then so many other
[1:16:16] things happening. So, um, really great.
[1:16:19] But, you know, anytime we have people
[1:16:23] and go and talk to folks, they say
[1:16:25] something about the naggish meat pie
[1:16:26] and, uh, different ways to make them,
[1:16:29] you know. Um, so, so really that's one
[1:16:32] of the things that identify us. We don't
[1:16:34] have anybody I don't think we have
[1:16:36] anybody from the meat pie committee
[1:16:38] here, but again, we just kind of like to
[1:16:40] do this. This is one step in trying to
[1:16:42] bring attention to that festival. All
[1:16:44] righty. Um, any comments or questions
[1:16:46] here?
[1:16:49] >> All right. See, Mr. Sy, roll call vote.
[1:16:51] >> Eli,
[1:16:51] >> yes.
[1:16:52] >> Nelson,
[1:16:53] >> yes.
[1:16:53] >> Smith Perkin Doll,
[1:16:55] >> yes.
[1:16:55] >> Harrington,
[1:16:56] >> yes.
[1:16:56] >> PT,
[1:16:57] >> yes. All right, that motion carries.
[1:16:59] Again, the 19th, the 18th and 19th of
[1:17:01] September. All right, we have a couple
[1:17:04] ordinances that are up for a vote
[1:17:05] tonight. And the first one is read by
[1:17:07] Councilman Harrington. Ordinance 28 of
[1:17:10] 2026, an ordinance authorizing the mayor
[1:17:12] of the city of Nacadish to award the bid
[1:17:14] for hanger door replacement at the
[1:17:17] Nacadish regional airport. This was
[1:17:19] introduced at the last meeting. I move
[1:17:21] to adopt ordinance 28 of 2026.
[1:17:24] >> Second.
[1:17:25] >> Okay. Motion made and seconded. All
[1:17:28] right. Hangor replacement. I think this
[1:17:30] is 100% paid for by state and federal.
[1:17:34] Is that correct?
[1:17:35] >> That's correct.
[1:17:36] >> Okay. So,
[1:17:36] >> yeah. 95% FAA and 5% space.
[1:17:40] >> Okay, good.
[1:17:43] All right, any questions about this
[1:17:45] item?
[1:17:48] >> All right, seeing Mr. Stacy, roll call
[1:17:50] vote.
[1:17:51] >> Eli,
[1:17:51] >> yes.
[1:17:52] >> Nelson,
[1:17:53] >> yes.
[1:17:53] >> Smith Kirkindall,
[1:17:54] >> yes.
[1:17:55] >> Harington,
[1:17:55] >> yes.
[1:17:57] >> All right, that motion carries. Uh the
[1:17:59] second ordinance that's up for final is
[1:18:02] Councilman uh well it's dealing with
[1:18:04] revoking dedication but it's read by
[1:18:06] Councilman Nielson.
[1:18:08] Uh ordinance number 29 was introduced at
[1:18:11] our last meeting. I'll read it in title
[1:18:13] only. an ordinance revoking the
[1:18:15] dedication of a portion of Third Street
[1:18:18] which is situated in section 139
[1:18:21] Township 9 North Rain 7 West City and
[1:18:24] Parish and Nacades being that portion of
[1:18:28] Third Street located south of Church
[1:18:30] Street declaring that said portion of
[1:18:32] Third Street is abandoned and the
[1:18:35] dedication revoked providing for an
[1:18:38] effective date of the ordinance and
[1:18:40] saving clause and I've been assured that
[1:18:42] we get to retain the servitude. So I
[1:18:45] move to adopt ordinance number 29 of
[1:18:49] 2026.
[1:18:50] >> Second.
[1:18:51] >> Motion made and seconded.
[1:18:55] Um
[1:18:57] I think we have an attorney here but I
[1:18:59] don't if you don't have to say look I
[1:19:01] think most people didn't even realize
[1:19:04] this was
[1:19:05] >> a thing.
[1:19:06] >> Yeah. Like that that third street used
[1:19:09] to go that way. But um is here.
[1:19:12] >> That's all.
[1:19:13] >> Yeah. But he may or may not have
[1:19:14] anything to say. You want to say
[1:19:16] something?
[1:19:16] >> All right. You don't have to Chris.
[1:19:18] >> You good?
[1:19:19] >> Okay. State your first and last name
[1:19:21] there. Sir,
[1:19:21] >> Mr. Mayor uh city council. My name is
[1:19:24] Chris Henry and I initiated the request
[1:19:28] for abandonment on this property on
[1:19:31] behalf of the First Baptist Church and
[1:19:35] uh the new owner of my office, which is
[1:19:37] Fair Legacy 3 LLC.
[1:19:40] And this portion of Third Street has is
[1:19:45] very familiar to me because it's been my
[1:19:46] driveway for the last 34 years.
[1:19:50] And uh it was initially
[1:19:53] kept
[1:19:54] by uh the city as Third Street because
[1:19:58] it allowed access to St. Mary's which
[1:20:01] was originally behind which is now owned
[1:20:04] by the First Baptist Church. But again,
[1:20:07] uh the road is in really bad shape. It's
[1:20:13] got ruts and uh the Baptist church and
[1:20:17] uh the new owner uh Fair Legacy would
[1:20:20] like to u to basically repave it, make
[1:20:23] it a decent driveway and that's why
[1:20:26] we're we're we are requesting the
[1:20:28] abandonment at this time.
[1:20:31] >> Any question?
[1:20:31] >> You name is Henry. Any questions for Mr.
[1:20:33] Henry?
[1:20:34] >> All right. Thank you, sir.
[1:20:36] >> Thank you.
[1:20:37] >> Okay. Any other comments or questions?
[1:20:41] All right. I ain't seeing none. We did
[1:20:42] get a motion. Second, right?
[1:20:44] >> Yes.
[1:20:44] >> Uh, roll call vote.
[1:20:45] >> Eli,
[1:20:46] >> yes.
[1:20:46] >> Nelson,
[1:20:47] >> yes.
[1:20:47] >> Smith Kirk,
[1:20:49] >> yes.
[1:20:49] >> Harington,
[1:20:50] >> yes.
[1:20:52] >> All right, that motion carries.
[1:20:55] All right, we've got two ordinances that
[1:20:57] are for up for introduction tonight. And
[1:21:00] the first one is read by Councilman PT.
[1:21:03] >> Thank you, mayor. Ordinance number 030
[1:21:05] of 2026, an ordinance authorizing the
[1:21:08] mayor of the city of Nagadish, Ronnie
[1:21:10] Williams, to execute a lease in favor of
[1:21:13] JL Aviation of that 24,500
[1:21:17] square ft area shown and depicted on May
[1:21:21] 20 21 of 2026 survey Brandon C. Thornton
[1:21:26] and further providing for advertising of
[1:21:28] the lease and effective date. Whereas
[1:21:31] further under the authority of Louisiana
[1:21:33] Revised Statute 2135,
[1:21:36] the city has offered a lease with a term
[1:21:38] of 25 years with consideration of 12
[1:21:42] cent per square foot of a 2 or $2,940
[1:21:48] per year. All is set forth in an
[1:21:50] attached lease agreement by and between
[1:21:52] the city of negatives and JL Aviation
[1:21:56] together with an option to renew for an
[1:21:58] additional 25-year period. And this is
[1:22:01] for introduction only.
[1:22:06] Okay.
[1:22:10] So, Ed, just kind of give me some
[1:22:12] background here a minute.
[1:22:13] >> Yeah. This uh is Jeff Lindcott. This J
[1:22:16] as JL Aviation.
[1:22:19] He is interested or he's ready to uh
[1:22:23] move one of his businesses here to
[1:22:26] Nackadish. And if you see the two
[1:22:27] hangers in the kind of the upper left
[1:22:30] corner, the two tan hangers, his hanger
[1:22:32] will be like the next one further to
[1:22:35] your left. It will be larger than either
[1:22:37] one of those two hangers. It'll be the
[1:22:38] largest building on the airport. It's be
[1:22:40] a 100x 120 ft hanger. He has three
[1:22:44] helicopters, two airplanes, and he does
[1:22:48] it's all business. It's for um aerial
[1:22:52] mapping. He does with the helicopters.
[1:22:54] He does the aerial mapping like low and
[1:22:57] slow and down to the detail where um oh
[1:23:02] god, what's his name? Don Cumins at Air
[1:23:05] Data Solutions. He does his aerial
[1:23:07] survey in much higher and faster in
[1:23:11] airplanes. So this will be lower and
[1:23:13] slower and um I don't know the
[1:23:16] difference in the detail if one will be
[1:23:17] better than the other but they're not
[1:23:19] they won't be competing against each
[1:23:20] other in a way they'll be actually
[1:23:22] complenting each other and this will be
[1:23:25] a good u good addition to the airport
[1:23:30] >> how many you know how many vacancies we
[1:23:32] have now
[1:23:34] >> you mean as far as vac openings for
[1:23:36] airplanes we're full with airplanes
[1:23:38] >> okay in terms of hangers
[1:23:40] >> space and hangers Yeah,
[1:23:41] >> that are already built. But you we could
[1:23:43] build more.
[1:23:44] >> And we're working on uh it's a slow
[1:23:47] process, but we're working on building
[1:23:48] another set of tea hangers.
[1:23:50] >> Okay.
[1:23:51] >> But that's probably three or four years
[1:23:52] off before all the FAA funding and
[1:23:55] everything gets in place.
[1:23:58] >> Hey, it's good to be full.
[1:24:00] >> Yeah,
[1:24:00] >> good to be full.
[1:24:02] Any questions, comments, council?
[1:24:06] All right. So, we'll see this in our
[1:24:08] first meeting in September. We'll see
[1:24:11] this back.
[1:24:12] >> Okay. All right. We've got another item
[1:24:15] that has already been referenced a few
[1:24:17] times tonight um for introduction and
[1:24:19] Councilman Harrington is in charge of
[1:24:21] this one. This is ordinance 31 of 2026.
[1:24:24] An ordinance establishing a six-month
[1:24:26] moratorum upon the consideration receipt
[1:24:29] andor processing of all future impending
[1:24:33] applications for placement of a mural in
[1:24:35] the historic district of the city of
[1:24:36] Nacades setting a public hearing date
[1:24:39] and further providing with respect there
[1:24:41] too. Whereas the city of Nakage finds it
[1:24:43] necessary to oppose an immediate
[1:24:44] moratorium on the consideration, receipt
[1:24:46] or processing of all applications for
[1:24:49] any license or permit for the placement
[1:24:51] of murals in the historic district of
[1:24:53] the city of Nacades in order to provide
[1:24:55] time to research and possibly the
[1:24:57] development of and implementation of an
[1:24:59] ordinance that will provide
[1:25:00] clarification for the regulation and
[1:25:03] permitting of murals in the Nacadus
[1:25:05] Historic District. And whereas further
[1:25:08] an issue has recently come before the
[1:25:10] Nacadesh historic district commission
[1:25:12] regarding the placement of a mural
[1:25:13] within the Nacades Historic District and
[1:25:15] questions been raised regarding the
[1:25:17] regulation of murals under the current
[1:25:19] historic district ordinance and the
[1:25:21] possible impact that a mural may have to
[1:25:23] the character of the district and
[1:25:24] possible impact to the current
[1:25:26] designation of the district as a
[1:25:29] landmark district. And whereas further
[1:25:32] the city council's opinion, it is in the
[1:25:34] interest of the citizens of the city of
[1:25:36] Nacades as well as a Nacadesh historic
[1:25:38] district to undertake research aimed at
[1:25:40] the possible development of an ordinance
[1:25:42] that will provide for clear and
[1:25:44] objective standards and regulations that
[1:25:46] protect the historic character of this
[1:25:48] Nacades historic district which ensuring
[1:25:51] that any regulations comply with
[1:25:52] applicable constitutional requirements.
[1:25:55] And whereas further the city council of
[1:25:58] the city of Nacish would like to
[1:25:59] research and study how other historic
[1:26:01] districts regulate and enforce murals
[1:26:04] and review guidelines from the United
[1:26:06] States Department of the Interior in
[1:26:07] order to determine what guidelines,
[1:26:09] standards, criteria, and other
[1:26:11] procedures are necessary to regulate
[1:26:13] murals in the Nacadus historic district.
[1:26:16] And whereas further the city council of
[1:26:18] the city of Nacadus has the authority to
[1:26:20] adopt a moratorum for the purpose of
[1:26:22] preserving the status quo while
[1:26:24] guidelines, standards, criter criteria
[1:26:26] and procedures are considered prepared
[1:26:28] and adopted.
[1:26:30] And now therefore, be it ordained that
[1:26:32] the city of Nacadas hereby imposes a
[1:26:34] moratorum upon the consideration,
[1:26:36] receipt, and or processing of all future
[1:26:39] applications or permits for placement of
[1:26:41] murals in the Nacades historic district
[1:26:43] for 6 months from the effective date of
[1:26:45] this ordinance until the city has
[1:26:47] completed its study and implemented any
[1:26:49] changes deemed necessary. This is for
[1:26:51] introduction only.
[1:26:53] >> All right. Okay.
[1:26:59] » Yeah.
[1:27:03] And actually this is probably for the
[1:27:05] city attorney. Um our commission meets
[1:27:10] on September the 8th. There is an
[1:27:13] application that has been put in for
[1:27:16] another mural. How are we to address
[1:27:19] this since you are requesting a
[1:27:21] moratorum?
[1:27:24] >> How often y'all meet?
[1:27:26] >> We meet once a month.
[1:27:28] >> Okay. The city council will meet after
[1:27:31] we meet.
[1:27:33] >> What is the next date of your meeting?
[1:27:35] >> September
[1:27:37] 14th.
[1:27:38] >> So we meet September the 8th.
[1:27:41] >> Okay. Could y'all delay that until this
[1:27:44] final vote?
[1:27:45] >> I mean that would be I guess up to I
[1:27:47] mean I can but
[1:27:49] >> I don't I don't know your your rules on
[1:27:51] your meetings. Is it
[1:27:53] >> You mean can we delay our meeting is
[1:27:55] what you're asking? Not not the meeting
[1:27:56] except the the item that's on your
[1:27:58] agenda.
[1:28:00] >> Shantrell
[1:28:03] » I don't know I this has never come up
[1:28:05] before.
[1:28:07] >> We can ask the applicant.
[1:28:09] >> Yeah I can look or look at your rules
[1:28:11] and it should
[1:28:12] >> there's nothing in the rules about
[1:28:15] this particular
[1:28:16] >> No this is a agenda item that's on
[1:28:19] >> this is an agenda it's on the agenda.
[1:28:21] You can you could knowing that there's
[1:28:23] new legislation coming from the city
[1:28:25] council,
[1:28:26] >> you could move to table that to wait for
[1:28:30] the ruling the the vote for the city
[1:28:32] council.
[1:28:32] >> I just want to make sure whatever we do
[1:28:34] is proper procedure.
[1:28:36] >> I I think I would suggest
[1:28:38] >> tableabling it and explain that to the
[1:28:41] applicant.
[1:28:42] >> Okay. Yeah.
[1:28:42] >> Well, I I could to make it to clare to
[1:28:46] make it more, you know, it might make it
[1:28:49] easier is right now this says
[1:28:52] um from the effective date of this
[1:28:55] ordinance, which will mean the day we
[1:28:57] vote on it. I could say a six-month
[1:28:59] moratorum from the date of the
[1:29:01] introduction of this ordinance.
[1:29:04] >> Yeah. So once it's once it's voted on,
[1:29:07] it'll be retroactive to today.
[1:29:10] >> And that how you will vote on somebody's
[1:29:13] application that's already been filed by
[1:29:15] passing a law to retroactively impact an
[1:29:18] application that's been filed. I don't
[1:29:20] know how you do that.
[1:29:22] >> And I don't know how you continue it
[1:29:23] either then.
[1:29:24] >> And I'll be deadly honest with you. This
[1:29:26] is City Bank. They have been trying to
[1:29:30] get this approved. They have not filed
[1:29:32] an application for a long time, but they
[1:29:34] have come and been working with insalter
[1:29:38] for months and months trying to
[1:29:40] formulate something that would be
[1:29:42] acceptable to the commission and then
[1:29:44] followed our rules.
[1:29:46] See, we I I went and tal I went and
[1:29:48] talked to them because I knew that in
[1:29:50] the background we were trying to work
[1:29:52] with some ordinance trying to get an
[1:29:54] ordinance built for this and I asked
[1:29:56] them to put it off and they were going
[1:29:59] to come before they filed to come last
[1:30:01] month and we said no, we need to wait
[1:30:03] and see what the city council does. I'm
[1:30:06] just trying, you know, I want to follow
[1:30:07] all the rules. I want to make it easy
[1:30:09] for them. I don't want to go through
[1:30:11] this again. We've had to go through with
[1:30:12] the tailor. It's not fair to us and it's
[1:30:14] not fair to the applicant
[1:30:16] >> and so I need advice.
[1:30:17] >> Yeah, I would I would at your meeting
[1:30:20] have a discussion about it and y'all can
[1:30:22] move to to table it and tell the city
[1:30:24] council to vote on the next legislation
[1:30:27] since you know it's coming.
[1:30:28] >> But I see what Jared's saying. They
[1:30:30] filed under the current ordinances. So
[1:30:33] their application is like the tailor or
[1:30:36] under how the ordinances stand today. So
[1:30:39] then how can they table it and then we
[1:30:41] come back and say oh we changed the
[1:30:42] ordinances now
[1:30:43] >> what they filed
[1:30:45] >> another issue is too they file an
[1:30:48] application for a mural. Oh yeah.
[1:30:50] >> Yes. And it's larger than that mural.
[1:30:53] >> Okay.
[1:30:53] >> Takes up the whole wall.
[1:30:55] >> It's 18t tall, 37 feet wide.
[1:30:59] >> Yeah. And that's the problem I thought
[1:31:00] we were going to get into. People just
[1:31:02] going to want to put up murals and you
[1:31:04] have to have something. You open a
[1:31:05] Pandora's open Pandora for other to do
[1:31:08] this. But I would think that you all
[1:31:10] would have the um
[1:31:12] >> legal ability to just post I mean not
[1:31:15] postpone but give let them know that
[1:31:19] they that you're not
[1:31:21] uh agreeing to give them a permit just
[1:31:24] >> that's why I'm asking the city attorney
[1:31:26] legally what can we do success
[1:31:37] the only reason you're taking that
[1:31:38] applications because you know this is
[1:31:40] going to get passed and so you want it
[1:31:42] to apply to us. You really can't change
[1:31:44] the rules of the game after it started
[1:31:46] and from their standpoint the game
[1:31:49] started when they filed their
[1:31:50] application.
[1:31:51] >> So the rules should be defined based on
[1:31:53] what they were what the rules existed as
[1:31:56] the time the application was filed. And
[1:31:58] so that's why one of the reasons I
[1:32:01] cautioned about allowing murals in the
[1:32:03] first place because I don't think we're
[1:32:05] now going to be able to say, "Oh,
[1:32:07] that's, you know, that's not good art.
[1:32:10] It's just going to be, hey, we allow
[1:32:12] murals. The murals
[1:32:15] get approved.
[1:32:17] >> I want to see a more in place."
[1:32:19] >> I could just take a look at y'all rules.
[1:32:22] >> Pardon me?
[1:32:22] >> I could take a look at y'all rules
[1:32:24] before your meeting.
[1:32:27] >> Okay. Okay.
[1:32:27] >> Cuz you said this is a bigger one. This
[1:32:29] is already already made and this is
[1:32:30] being introduced.
[1:32:31] >> This one uh Mr. Taylor, do you remember
[1:32:33] the size of this mural?
[1:32:36] >> 8 ft by 24.
[1:32:37] >> Pardon me.
[1:32:38] >> 8 ft by
[1:32:39] >> 8 ft.
[1:32:42] by 24 ft. Okay. Theirs is 24 ft
[1:32:45] long. This one is 37t long. Okay.
[1:32:49] >> Theirs is 4t tall.
[1:32:51] >> 8 ft tall.
[1:32:52] This is 18t tall.
[1:32:56] >> Mhm. And it's on the side of your
[1:32:58] building.
[1:33:00] >> It's not if they own that side of the
[1:33:01] building, but that's where it's located.
[1:33:04] >> So, we're in a conundrum again.
[1:33:06] >> Yeah.
[1:33:07] >> What do we do?
[1:33:09] >> We're back to square one.
[1:33:11] >> So, were you going to approve this one?
[1:33:14] That's the question.
[1:33:15] >> Who's talking? Oh, I'm sorry.
[1:33:16] >> Me, Councilwoman.
[1:33:19] >> I'm sorry. I couldn't I knew it was a
[1:33:20] lady. I couldn't find you.
[1:33:21] >> Our current ordinances don't say
[1:33:22] anything about size or anything. That's
[1:33:24] why we have that's why you got to get
[1:33:26] this as far as sizing and everything.
[1:33:28] >> They've already appi they've already
[1:33:30] they've slipped in your question. Would
[1:33:33] I have voted to approve the application?
[1:33:35] Absolutely not. I don't think I think
[1:33:37] it's a hor it's a horrible idea to allow
[1:33:39] me
[1:33:40] the first place and so I I just don't I
[1:33:44] wouldn't have done it. I think the vast
[1:33:46] majority I can't speak for him but based
[1:33:48] on observations that I have I don't
[1:33:49] think hardly anybody on that commission
[1:33:52] >> I would be concerned because of the size
[1:33:54] that it would not not pass and when I
[1:33:58] started conversation with city bank
[1:34:00] months ago I told Josh that they could
[1:34:04] apply as a sign because they are
[1:34:06] grandfathered in from the fact that they
[1:34:09] already have two existing signs painted
[1:34:12] on their building. And I said, Josh, if
[1:34:15] you take the two signs and put them
[1:34:17] together, that would be adequate, that would be grandfathered in because
[1:34:23] that's what you had before. They're
[1:34:24] eliminating the two making one. And that
[1:34:28] would be the size to me that would be
[1:34:30] allowable under the grandfather clause.
[1:34:32] And they're grandfathered in because
[1:34:33] it's been up there, I don't know, 40, 50
[1:34:36] years. It's been up there forever, you
[1:34:38] know. So, but now because of this, I
[1:34:42] need to know legally what I can do.
[1:34:45] >> Yeah. I think you if your rules don't
[1:34:48] allow for you to delay it, I think you
[1:34:50] make a decision and maybe we end up with
[1:34:52] an appeal here again and then we can
[1:34:54] address whether or not the moratorum
[1:34:57] suspends the action that was taken by
[1:34:59] your
[1:35:00] >> some guidance about I mean, how are we
[1:35:04] supposed to evaluate this. I mean, we have specific
[1:35:11] rules. We just didn't think these were
[1:35:13] prohibited and so we just weren't going
[1:35:16] to approve it. I mean, are we supposed
[1:35:18] to consider the quality of the artwork
[1:35:21] that's done, the color of it? I mean, I
[1:35:24] don't know how, you know, whether or not
[1:35:26] it comply or it complements the rest of
[1:35:29] the community. I just don't know how
[1:35:31] we're supposed to evaluate city banks
[1:35:33] applications. We don't have any rules to
[1:35:36] apply to their application.
[1:35:38] >> Yeah. And currently, that's the reason
[1:35:40] we're doing this. You It's vague.
[1:35:42] Darness is vague.
[1:35:44] >> So, we got to deal with it where it is.
[1:35:46] >> So, you see how we were a month ago.
[1:35:48] >> Yeah.
[1:35:49] We have no guidance and that's why
[1:35:51] we're here.
[1:35:51] >> See now,
[1:35:52] >> I don't I think the definition of a
[1:35:55] significant
[1:36:03] is
[1:36:06] It's not. Yeah, it's not. Well, it's
[1:36:08] not. Murals is not in the ordinance.
[1:36:10] Okay. So, it's not but it's not
[1:36:11] prohibited either.
[1:36:13] >> We do have definition because we
[1:36:16] required to get approval of every
[1:36:17] alteration
[1:36:19] >> if that type of addition is not
[1:36:21] permitted under the rules. I think by
[1:36:22] definition it's not allowed,
[1:36:24] >> right?
[1:36:25] >> Default to to not allowing it. But I we
[1:36:28] just want to make sure when we're
[1:36:30] dealing with city bank on our next
[1:36:33] meeting that we don't do something
[1:36:35] because they really want that sign up
[1:36:36] there
[1:36:37] >> and we tell them no
[1:36:40] that we don't uh turn around and get the
[1:36:43] city sued. We don't we're trying to call
[1:36:46] less problem. So
[1:36:48] >> okay.
[1:36:49] >> Yeah. I think you make your decision if
[1:36:50] we can't
[1:36:52] >> no other way.
[1:36:52] >> All right. Thank you.
[1:36:53] >> Just the process.
[1:36:54] >> All right. Thank you.
[1:36:56] >> Okay. And again, this is just
[1:36:57] introduction,
[1:36:59] so we have a little time to think about
[1:37:01] this some more, and it'll be on our
[1:37:04] September 14th meeting. Okay.
[1:37:07] >> Yep. Okay. All right. We have two
[1:37:10] resolutions left
[1:37:13] and the first resolution is read by
[1:37:16] Councilwoman Laura Smith, Kirk.
[1:37:18] >> Thank you, Mayor. This is a resolution
[1:37:21] number 059 of 2026.
[1:37:24] A resolution approving a temporary site
[1:37:28] license with new singular wireless PCS
[1:37:31] and authorizing the mayor of the city of
[1:37:33] Nacage, Ronnie Williams Jr. to execute
[1:37:35] same on behalf of the city of Nacage.
[1:37:38] Whereas the city has has negotiated a
[1:37:40] temporary site license with the new
[1:37:43] Singular Wireless
[1:37:46] PCS LLC,
[1:37:49] referred to as Singular, which will
[1:37:51] allow Singular to temporarily locate
[1:37:55] communications transmitting and
[1:37:57] receiving equipment on property of the
[1:37:58] city of Nakage. Whereas the whereas the
[1:38:02] agreement would provide for improved
[1:38:04] communications for citizens of and
[1:38:06] visitors to the city of Nackis during a
[1:38:09] period increased tourism from October
[1:38:12] 3rd, 2026
[1:38:14] through January 9, 2027.
[1:38:18] And whereas further the city council
[1:38:20] this is,
[1:38:23] excuse me, whereas further the city
[1:38:25] council
[1:38:27] is of the opinion that the agreement
[1:38:28] will be beneficial to the citizens of
[1:38:31] the city of Nacanish as well as visitors
[1:38:34] to the city as the increase in effective
[1:38:37] cellular communication will result in an
[1:38:40] increased safety of citizens and
[1:38:42] visitors as well as convenience to
[1:38:44] citizens and visitors. And whereas
[1:38:47] further the city council of the city of
[1:38:49] Nakash hereby has reviewed and approved
[1:38:53] the attached temporary site license.
[1:38:56] Now therefore be it resolved by the city
[1:38:58] council consider the attached temporary
[1:39:01] license. I I move uh well this is just
[1:39:04] for introduction.
[1:39:07] So
[1:39:07] >> no it's a resolution. So it's it's you
[1:39:10] could
[1:39:11] >> introduction.
[1:39:12] >> No it's resolution.
[1:39:13] >> No you can vote on it. Yeah you can
[1:39:15] motion. Whereas further the city council
[1:39:18] um of NASA Louisiana has reviewed and
[1:39:21] approved the attached temporary site
[1:39:23] license and desires to authorize the
[1:39:26] mayor Ronda Williams Jr. to execute same
[1:39:28] and therefore now be resolved by the
[1:39:31] city council of the city of Nackage that
[1:39:33] the attend that the attached temporary
[1:39:35] site license is approved and that the
[1:39:38] mayor of the city of Nakage Ronda
[1:39:40] Williams Jr. is hereby authorized to
[1:39:42] execute the attached temporary site
[1:39:44] license. So I move for adoption
[1:39:46] resolution number 059 2026.
[1:39:49] >> Second motion made and seconded. Ed, I
[1:39:52] know this is something we do every year,
[1:39:54] right?
[1:39:54] >> Yeah, we've been doing this for many
[1:39:56] years. All the infrastructure is in
[1:39:58] place. All they have to do is bring
[1:40:00] their covered trailer, plug it in, hook
[1:40:03] up their electric meter, raise their
[1:40:05] antenna. And I'm I'm sure I'm
[1:40:07] oversimplifying it, but it's been there
[1:40:09] since they've been doing this for
[1:40:11] probably close to 20 years now, just
[1:40:13] guessing. Every year
[1:40:15] >> support Christmas festival day or
[1:40:17] >> throughout the season?
[1:40:19] >> The the whole season. They'll put it up
[1:40:20] in October and they'll take it down in
[1:40:22] January. And it's
[1:40:24] >> u some of y'all may recall at Christmas
[1:40:27] Festival, you use your phone, you can't
[1:40:28] get a signal, you can't call. This is to
[1:40:32] boost um add I guess capacity to the
[1:40:36] cell towers and make it easier for
[1:40:38] people to be able to call, text, email,
[1:40:41] whatever it is they do on their phone.
[1:40:44] >> Yeah, it's pretty bad during Christmas
[1:40:46] fest of time. You can't talk.
[1:40:47] >> Yeah, this is supposed to help that
[1:40:50] depend.
[1:40:50] >> Has it been helping?
[1:40:51] >> Pardon me.
[1:40:52] >> It's been helping with that.
[1:40:53] >> Oh yeah.
[1:40:53] >> Yeah.
[1:40:54] >> I can remember years ago. I mean, you
[1:40:57] just couldn't you couldn't even get out.
[1:40:59] So, this has been helpful.
[1:41:00] >> Okay. I guess I'm trying to stream the
[1:41:02] SEC game and then always let me stream
[1:41:04] that, though. But
[1:41:05] >> yeah, but everything's in place. All
[1:41:07] they have to do is is pull up, hook up,
[1:41:10] and and go. And they paid for all the
[1:41:12] infrastructure. The city did, and they
[1:41:14] did this many years ago.
[1:41:17] >> Okay. Any other questions?
[1:41:21] >> All right. There's something we've been
[1:41:23] doing that we need to do. All right. Uh,
[1:41:25] Mrs. Stacy, roll call vote. Eli,
[1:41:28] >> yes.
[1:41:28] >> Nelson,
[1:41:29] >> yes.
[1:41:29] >> Smith, Perkendall,
[1:41:30] >> yes.
[1:41:31] >> Harington,
[1:41:31] >> yes.
[1:41:32] >> PT,
[1:41:32] >> yes. All right, that motion carries.
[1:41:34] Last resolution of the night. Then we
[1:41:37] just have a few announcements is
[1:41:39] Councilwoman Washington Eli.
[1:41:41] >> Thank you, Mayor. I'm going to read
[1:41:43] title only, which we already know what
[1:41:45] the home room charter states at section
[1:41:48] 48.
[1:41:50] Uh resolution
[1:41:52] 060 of 2026, a resolution confirming
[1:41:56] that appointed of Blake Dawson as the
[1:41:58] recreation
[1:42:00] department for the city of Nagish. And I
[1:42:04] move to adopt resolution number 60,
[1:42:07] 2026.
[1:42:09] >> Second.
[1:42:09] >> Motion made and seconded. Um Blake, I
[1:42:12] think council, y'all have his resume and
[1:42:16] um I think another document that I I
[1:42:18] sent over there to you. I sent to you
[1:42:20] via email. But um Blake has been with
[1:42:24] the city parks and wreck. Now we're
[1:42:28] approaching seven years. Um it will be a
[1:42:31] seamless transition. Um for Blake to do
[1:42:34] it, he's got an education background. I
[1:42:37] think teachers can do anything they want
[1:42:38] to do. So I think they're great at just
[1:42:41] about everything. Train them a little
[1:42:42] bit. But um yeah, so
[1:42:47] people know him in the community. Um
[1:42:51] although he's not from here, he's been
[1:42:54] here for how long, Blake?
[1:42:56] >> 20 years.
[1:42:57] That's half That's more than
[1:42:59] half your life.
[1:43:00] >> That's right.
[1:43:00] >> Right about half your life. Okay. All
[1:43:02] right. So Blake, any remarks you'd like
[1:43:05] to make at this time?
[1:43:06] >> Uh just thank you. Thank you for your
[1:43:07] appointment. Uh it's not something I
[1:43:09] take lightly and thank you city council
[1:43:11] for your support and your confidence.
[1:43:14] >> Right. Okie dokie. Any comments or
[1:43:17] questions?
[1:43:23] » Okay. Seeing now Mr. Stacy. Roll call.
[1:43:27] >> Yes.
[1:43:27] >> Nelson.
[1:43:28] >> Yes.
[1:43:29] >> Smith Kirkind Doll.
[1:43:30] >> Yes.
[1:43:30] >> Harrington.
[1:43:31] >> Yes.
[1:43:31] >> PT.
[1:43:32] >> Yes.
[1:43:32] >> All right. That motion carries. Blake is
[1:43:34] going to do a great job for city and
[1:43:35] agonist parks and recck. All right. Uh
[1:43:38] our next meeting is on the 14th. All
[1:43:40] right. And then we're closed. Wanted to
[1:43:42] say we're closed on next Friday. That's
[1:43:45] that employee appreciation day. And then
[1:43:47] also we're closed for Labor Day. So we
[1:43:50] kind of give a long weekend, a longer
[1:43:52] weekend there. All right. We always
[1:43:54] encourage people to download the goatish
[1:43:57] download um regroup because that's where
[1:44:00] we put road closures, blockages, street blockages if you will,
[1:44:06] streets that are being blocked off. Uh
[1:44:09] the Cane River Zadico Festival, as I
[1:44:11] said, we dropped the video today where,
[1:44:13] you know, Bigfoot is going to be in town
[1:44:14] in a couple days. I mean, actual
[1:44:16] Bigfoot, I'm being serious. and uh we're
[1:44:18] going to record a video with him and uh
[1:44:21] he's said he's going to go somewhere and
[1:44:23] come back Labor Day weekend, but we do
[1:44:26] have the festival. He's going to be here
[1:44:27] on Labor Day weekend, Septe September
[1:44:29] 5th. And this is the third annual from 9
[1:44:32] to 6 p.m. So, we got two things
[1:44:34] happening. Zadico Fest, it's free that
[1:44:37] Friday night to Zadico Fest only $20
[1:44:40] that Saturday. Um, I know they're having
[1:44:43] Rusty Matuire and I know you're having
[1:44:46] Marcus Aran on that particular night.
[1:44:48] There's a poker run. Um, there's
[1:44:50] Zadico's dance fest. And if you saw the
[1:44:53] video today, you know, you know I'm I'm
[1:44:56] going to be doing the Zadico dance fest,
[1:44:58] whatever. Uh, dance competition, I think
[1:45:00] it is. All right. Um, and then we also
[1:45:03] have the Bigfoot Festival happening at
[1:45:04] the Nagades Event Center from 9:00 to
[1:45:05] 6:00 p.m. So, uh, we're looking to get
[1:45:07] people, uh, out to these, uh, events.
[1:45:10] again shaping up to be a pretty busy
[1:45:12] weekend. Again, that's next weekend.
[1:45:16] >> All right. Then we have 25 years of the
[1:45:19] Nacadesh Meepot Festival and we've
[1:45:21] already talked about that with the
[1:45:22] proclamation. We just ask people to come
[1:45:24] out and we'll try to do what we can to
[1:45:26] promote. I know they have a Facebook
[1:45:27] page like these other organizations do,
[1:45:29] but we'll do the best we can to help to
[1:45:31] promote it. All right, sickale. You
[1:45:34] heard Miss Judith earlier, Miss Judith
[1:45:35] Hayes mention uh this event put on by
[1:45:38] the Nagas alumni chapter of DEX Delta
[1:45:41] Sigma Theta sorority. This is the third
[1:45:43] annual sick cell uh awareness event is
[1:45:46] at the outpatient medical clinic or I
[1:45:49] think they're in collaboration with
[1:45:50] let's see it's going to be at the MLK
[1:45:53] Recreation Center from 10 to 12:00 p.m.
[1:45:56] on um Meepot Festival Day uh September
[1:46:00] 19th that Saturday. opportunity to give
[1:46:02] blood and um you know to help support
[1:46:04] sex and learn about the disease and
[1:46:07] maybe some progress that's been made.
[1:46:10] All right, annual gayla. We've been
[1:46:12] announcing this for a few weeks now. The
[1:46:14] women resource center on September 24th
[1:46:17] and it's always Nagus Event Center.
[1:46:19] Usually a really good crowd. So um I
[1:46:22] know the people within the city who look
[1:46:23] forward to this event happening every
[1:46:25] year.
[1:46:27] The Nagadus car show is taking place on
[1:46:30] that first weekend in October uh the
[1:46:33] second and third. So um I think it's
[1:46:35] grown just about every year and um you
[1:46:38] know Nacket is just fortunate to have I
[1:46:41] know Councilwoman at large and others
[1:46:43] appreciate it historic district
[1:46:45] commission but also we've got other
[1:46:47] groups as well uh who helped to make
[1:46:49] Nagish what it is. So historic district
[1:46:51] business association is one of the
[1:46:53] events they put on in addition to
[1:46:55] Christmas festival. So kudos to them and
[1:46:57] we certainly want to be there to support
[1:46:59] our downtown businesses on this
[1:47:01] particular day. See what cars out there.
[1:47:02] One of my favorite events on on the
[1:47:04] calendar. All right. Top of the booth.
[1:47:06] This is new this year. Um Northwestern
[1:47:09] is putting this on to help to support
[1:47:11] some efforts that they have. But
[1:47:13] everything I hear about it's going to be
[1:47:14] a really really good really good
[1:47:16] turnout. Um the artists that they have
[1:47:19] I'm told are really really big. I think
[1:47:21] they're more of the country. Are they
[1:47:23] more country? like that's what it is.
[1:47:25] But um I heard that there some pretty
[1:47:27] big names. So this is Yeah, it's some
[1:47:30] pretty big names. So Top of the Boot,
[1:47:31] that's happening 16 to 17. And obviously
[1:47:34] when I support tickets on sale now, uh
[1:47:36] with that, they also have the house that
[1:47:38] they're raffling off as well, which is,
[1:47:40] you know, separate effort, but you know,
[1:47:43] we love to support our university. Have
[1:47:45] y'all had a chance to take a look at the
[1:47:46] sign? Anybody out there on the
[1:47:47] interstate? The refurbished sign? Take a
[1:47:49] look at it when you go out there. Um it looks really nice. uh the sign which
[1:47:54] is you know it's the same one on the
[1:47:55] hill but
[1:47:56] >> there's been some work been some work to
[1:47:58] it uh partnership with Kane River
[1:48:00] National Heritage Heritage Area uh the
[1:48:03] city of Nacatish and Northwestern State
[1:48:05] University so it looks really good so
[1:48:07] that's happening 16 and 17 I think we
[1:48:08] have one or two more that's it okay all
[1:48:10] right great so a lot of announcements a
[1:48:13] lot of things coming up this is our busy
[1:48:14] season so um but at this time we'll hear
[1:48:17] a motion to adjourn
[1:48:18] >> I make a motion that we adjourn
[1:48:20] >> second
[1:48:20] >> All right in favor I
[1:48:22] >> All Hey, meeting is a J. Y'all have a
[1:48:24] great night everybody. Hey