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We got quiet. Must be the right time. So with that,

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before we do get started, if we could ask for the interpreter, um,

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to take a moment to explain the city's interpretation services that will be offered for

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this evening's meeting. Thank you, mayor. Uh, the following will be an

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announcement for our spanish speaking guests. We wanna start this.

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thank you, mayor. Thank you very much. Uh, just as a reminder, if we could

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please silence all cell phones or any other devices in the chamber, that would

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be greatly appreciated. With that, I'd like to call the meeting to order

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a live webcast of the meeting may be viewed on the city's website. If you're watching

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via, uh, zoom, viewing the spanish version of the meeting, interpreter instructions

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will appear in the chat box at the bottom of your screen. For those

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who refer to sit in the chamber, headsets are available to provide live spanish

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translation, please see the, uh, city clerk's, uh, desk,

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and, uh, to check out a headsets. The notice agenda and information

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on the city of national city's website inform members of the public that they may submit

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a general public comment or a public comment on a specific agenda item

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in a number of ways, either in person, uh, in the council chamber by

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submitting one of these salmon colored slips here at the back of the chamber. And please get those over

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just as soon as possible over to our, uh, clerk's desk or via

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zoom by pre-registering on the city's website, no later than two hours before the meeting,

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or by emailing no later than four hours before the meeting. And

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all, uh, excuse me, all written, uh, comments received or

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distributed to the city council prior to the meeting and published on the city's website

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if received by the deadline. With that, if we could have roll call please.

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thank you. Council member yamani here. Council member rodriguez.

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present. Council member bush here. Vice mayor

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molina. Present. Mayor morrison. Uh, present. May

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I have a quorum? Thank you. Can we please stand for the pledge of allegiance? Please

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remain standing for the invocation. Uh, member bush, would you leave this, please?

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right hand over your heart. Ready? Begin. I pledge allegiance

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to the flag of the united states of america and to the

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republic for which it stands, one nation under god, under god,

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indivisible, with liberty and justice. All

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morrison council members and everybody present, this is reverend dr. Kamilla

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lead, pastor city church here in nashville city. You join me in prayer,

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your lord. We thank you for these wonderful and beautiful days you have given us.

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and we pray today that you guide all of these council members,

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the mayor and everybody present, and all that will be discussed today

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will be with sincerity for the public good of everyone that you would be glorified,

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and the desire of good amongst us here in this city

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for your glory. In the name of jesus christ, I pray. Amen. Amen. Thank you.

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alright. Uh, we'll now hear public comments on items that are not on

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we'll give each person, uh, two minutes on that.

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and, uh, with that I will call, uh, three people at a time. And,

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uh, so when you hear your name call, please come out into the, into the open area, and that

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way it'll be save time between people. Uh, cesar, javier

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and paha javier, be followed by ted godshaw.

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okay. Evening. Mm-hmm .

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okay. Start now.

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good evening. I am purita

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we are with you to share lessons

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learned for from our community.

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bounded city, san diego

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by district nine or poor

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under leadership of consular

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sean rivera and council

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lord. Um,

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um, this is henry foster,

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respectively.

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um, george graphic

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political boundaries like

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ours at west bank of

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choice creek represent disadvantaged

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vantage community. Per

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observation, one witness

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is the devastating of programs

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such as physical development on

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shelter, mobility, transportation,

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roads, streets, amongst other

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services in our community,

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we have at least eight

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concerns. One is the location,

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of ceramics manufacturing

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poisoning the air we breathe.

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thank, thank you very much. Since 1997,

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uh, cesar javier, followed by ted godshaw, be followed by cynthia fo, uh, fuller

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es. Thank you uncle sam. Thank you, honorable

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mayor morrison, my classmates in, uh, sandag.

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we are here consistently, passively,

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if only to remind and educate and inform. Councilor

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you are accountable in our mystery because

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councilor booth is, has volunteered

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or perhaps committed to the air pollution control

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district, a member of the governing board, a thinker

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along with then councilor rivera and the mayor.

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the mayor is the founder of taking out a pcd from the county

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who is supposed to be regionwide, ensuring clean air for

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everyone. But our expectation a hundred

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percent is failing because he

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favored, if I may say, businesses, rather than help

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of san dies. We are witness since

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visited the air pollution control district office in

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essa. And we found out that these are the aptors

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one, uh, I forgot their names, but the original

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, you went our home. We showed you

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the ceramic scale, which the a pcd has sent.

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science. Don't you respect science?

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don't you understand science? It destroys the respira

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respiratory gland. Cerus.

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and what did you do? They just erased the few.

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thank you for your comment in this ceramics. Thank you very much.

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help us, mr. Go. Thank you. Okay, ted gotch, followed by cynthia fuller

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quinone, followed by edwin neto,

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ted gotch here tonight I want to address some of the broken commitments that you have made

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lately. First, for 2024, the city council approved a

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community health and environmental planner position. This position was never filled,

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never taken seriously by anyone here. And now you don't even recognize it as a

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vacancy just gone a broken commitment. Second, and about the same year,

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you took away arpa funding from the paradise creek educational park habitat and

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bathroom project over our objections. You said you would fund it in the next year in the

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general fund in 2025, and you did not do that. My third example of

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breaking commitments to the community concerns mr. Bush's actions at the countywide a pcd

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or the air quality control district. Mr. Bush was not appointed by the mayor or

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the council. He did not run for the position. And you know that right

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at the may 14th, a pcd meeting, mr. Bush killed a compromise motion made

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by county supervisor agiri to have their staff complete a four year

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study process with a draft rule to control emissions from warehouse trucks. Mr. Bush

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voted against a compromise that would've included incentives

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instead suggesting that more air filters would make this pollution problem

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somehow better for residents in our city and in the south county.

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with public testimony, standing at two to one in favor of new controls, mr. Bush

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five to four to kill the compromise. With this action, mr. Bush

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did harm to members of our community. And now I think this council should do two things.

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first, thank mrs. Aguire for, with an email

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for her support of the residents of national city in the south bay.

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second, ask mrs. Aguire to remove

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mr. Bush from the a pcd board and request a new member for south

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county. Please start addressing

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the other commitments that lie broken on your desks.

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thank you very much. Uh, cynthia fuller be followed by

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edward nieto to be followed by liliana arma. Good

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evening mayor. City council members and all here tonight. Uh, you know me,

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cynthia, cynthia fuller quinones. I'm here speaking as a national city

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resident who, like many other community members, is feeling compelled to

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speak up about our representation on the air pollution control district board.

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and yet another missed opportunity to make real progress, uh,

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addressing terrible air pollution. Here at the may 14th, a pcd

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board meeting council member bush cast a deciding vote against beginning,

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indirect source role, uh, making, uh, something

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that our community has long asked for. His was the fifth vote,

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uh, and a five four decision that stopped progress on reducing

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the truck pollution that directly impacts neighborhoods like district one. What's

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especially concerning is that as a vote went against clear community input

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at the a pcd meeting, public testimony was more than two to one in

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favor of moving forward with the indirect source rule, process,

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residents, advocates, and families who live with health impacts every day.

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people like me with copd and uh, chronic asthma,

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we spoke up and yet our voices were not reflected in his vote.

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instead of supporting a concrete step towards reducing emissions, council

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member, uh, bush proposed air filters for which funding is limited at

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best and which do nothing to address, uh, to reduce the diesel

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trucks driving through our streets and polluting the air we breathe, our

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community has been clear. We need real solutions that prevent

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pollution, not just measures that help us cope with it.

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when a solution exists and the community has spoken, our representatives

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have a responsibility to act in support of this and us.

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so I urge the council to review council member bush's actions

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at the s-b-a-p-c-d, uh, thank supervisor paloma

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agiri for supporting our communities and consider whether our city is being

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fully, uh, represented at, represented in these critical regional decisions. Thank

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you for your comment. Thank you so much. Okay. Edwardo to be followed by

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yes. I'm here to, uh, ask once again and I've asked many times

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the fi the fiscal year 24 25 audit report. Last time

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I mentioned it, somebody said that it's gonna be, it was due on march 31st

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and somebody said they're gonna call up and ask the auditors. Now, you know, you

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get to the sitting point we've been asking and asking and asking, there's nothing

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to stop a citizen from ask. Calling up the auditors and, and telling them,

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where are you with this? It's, I pay for that. I don't wanna do that.

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but I gotta tell you, you know, this is an audit report that

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reflects, you know, multiple years of deficits, uh, all the things

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I've talked about before, and it's one that has an audit finding

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that's been repeated. Half put in financial system,

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not any bad reflection on, on fiscal staff, but just something

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that you just haven't given enough priority to. And it's exactly the thing

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you need right now to answer some of your budget questions. So I

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don't see why this is not a priority, why you're not asking about it. And where,

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and if you do have some idea of the audit report, can you share what the findings

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are right now, even before it's issued, and tell us what the status of the recommendations

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is. Have you got a management letter? Are you working on the response already? You

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know, this is something that's really important that's understated. And I think, again, it's

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part of your governance problems that you have in, in the council. If you don't know

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what the problems are and it clearly defines what it is, how can you

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actually make progress on these things? So that's, um, I'm looking forward to hearing

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some disclosure on what, what you're gonna do with that. Okay.

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kind of got 25 seconds. I can't believe that. Oh my god. .

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lil menta. .

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all right. Good evening, mayor. Council members and staff. I'm here tonight

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as the commander elect of american legion larry e. Bennett, post 2 55

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in national city. I want to ask a few questions.

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how are we honoring the veterans who live here in national city?

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national city is home to hundreds of veterans, families and

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veterans and military families. Yet we do not have a city sponsored

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memorial day ceremony, nor a veteran's day celebration dedicated

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to recognizing their service and sacrifice. When do,

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when veterans do not see themselves reflected in our city events? We feel forgotten.

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so many proclamations have been issued yet. When was the last time

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one was issued to a veteran? Just to say thank you for their service?

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the city partners with the chamber of commerce for the annual salute to navy luncheon.

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why not also partner with the american legion post 2, 5, 5, and other

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veteran organizations for veteran focused events and programs.

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as I step into my new role as commander, I'm committed to building those partnerships

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and bringing awareness to veteran issues in our community. Supporting veterans

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is not just honoring the past. It's about investing in leaders who continue serving

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our community every day. I'm also concerned that the city's

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wall of honor has not had an active process for veterans and their

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families to purchase plaques for quite some time. I can't even purchase a plaque

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for myself or anybody else. Recognition matters to us.

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it tells veterans that their service is valued and remembered.

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tonight, I ask for action together. I

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want to work with you all to make national city the most friendly,

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the most military friendly city in san diego county. Not just in words,

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but through actions, partnerships, visible support for those who serve.

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thank you, mayor and marcus for always supporting our events and I'd like to see the other

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council members of our events as well. Right. Can we

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now have on, uh, on zoom? Sure.

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carrie skelly.

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terry skelly,

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madison wrap.

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hi. Good evening mayor and city council members. Tonight I wanted

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to raise some awareness about marijuana use and respiratory health, especially

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among people living with asthma. As a mother of a

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child recently diagnosed with asthma, I was especially interested in this information

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and wanted to make sure it was known because as marijuana use continues to rise,

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it is critical that we understand its potential health impacts. Asthma

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is one of the most common chronic respiratory diseases

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affecting millions of adults and children. Yet surprisingly little

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research has examined how inhaling marijuana affects asthma outcomes.

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a recent national study analyzed data from 4,000 adults

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with asthma and found that inhaling marijuana, whether by smoking

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vaping or both, was associated with a significantly higher likelihood

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of experiencing an asthma attack within one year. These findings

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highlight a clear association between inhaled marijuana use and

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increased asthma risk. The sensitivities, people with asthma have

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should open the window for us to see that these inhaled products are actually dangerous

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for everyone. On some level, it is not safe to be breathing in these toxic

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chemicals. So why are we allowing them to be sold? Four cities

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in california now have bans on all tobacco sales, so it's not

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a huge leap to expect that all of these harmful products could be banned.

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as policymakers, you have a responsibility to ensure that residents receive

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accurate health information. Public education, warning labels,

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and continued research are essential so that individuals and especially

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those with asthma, can make informed decisions about their health. Thank you.

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thank you, judy str.

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good evening city council and mayor morrison. Thank you. I wanted to share some

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information that we've been talking about in my afterschool program

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where we provide mentoring to elementary school students and that

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mentoring is done by teens. We were very concerned about some

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research that was, uh, just came out in the journal of addictive behaviors regarding

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the increase in the number of parents that are parenting

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children actively who are using marijuana. That rate

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is now at one for every 12 parents in the united states.

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this is triple what it was just 12 years ago. As you can imagine,

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the effect that it has on children to be parented by those who

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be might be inattentive or unable to give them the care they needed.

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the studies of the effects of this situation have been studied and

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the concern they have for risk of neglect and the higher likelihood

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of showing children about substance use

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are dramatic and tragic, we think. But a particular concern

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to us is that population of parents that seem to be using, and they

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are younger parents and lower income households and parents who haven't

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had the opportunity to go to college and perhaps unmarried parents as well.

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so we think as a city, we would want you to know how important it is that

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we demonstrate to parents wherever they are, their

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role in protecting children and that the role marijuana plays

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in making them less than available to their children. So I'd

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like to suggest that we take a new look at what the city does in

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the way of billboards and permitting, and remember that it is

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normalizing and commercializing a product that damages families.

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thank you. Thank you, becky. Wrap.

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good evening. Thank you for allowing me to speak tonight. My name is becky

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rapp and I come as I'm very concerned regarding the

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illegal products, um, being sold at our local tobacco and smoke

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shops. Stores are blatantly selling flavored tobacco

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cre products and intoxicating hemp products that appeal to you

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and often violate state and local laws. Nearby cities

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are increasing enforcement and issuing major penalties.

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recently, a smoke shop in encinitas received a multimillion dollar

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fine, um, and the owner paid it.

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why is our city not taking the same aggressive enforcement approach?

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we often talk about budget and, and raising, um,

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and collecting more funding for all of the important things

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that we we need for our community. Um, strong

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enforcement would do two things, protect public health, as

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well as generate revenue through fines, penalties, permit actions,

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and product confiscation. Um, please send the message

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that national city will not tolerate businesses profiting from illegal

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and dangerous sales in our neighborhoods. It's time to

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take the blatant signs out of the windows advertising

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these, these products. Thank you. Thank you.

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terry kelley?

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hello? Can you hear me? Yes. Sorry I missed you earlier. I just stepped out for

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one second. Okay. Um, good evening. National city, city council mayor

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morrison, I wanna thank you for the adoption of a comprehensive tobacco

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retailers licensure program ordinance. As a parent,

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I applaud your efforts to reduce tobacco product sales to those under

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the age of 21. Please do the same for marijuana products

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that young adults find so attractive and available. We all know

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that smoking and vaping are leading causes of preventable death,

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disease and disability worldwide. Both

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marijuana and tobacco deliver toxic chemicals that cause severe respiratory

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and cardiovascular damage. These cancer causing chemicals are

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dissolved in particles that can be easily inhaled deep into

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lungs. Due to their very small size, the chemicals

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should never be inhaled by children and rapidly growing teens,

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older persons. Those with health deficiencies

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on women who are pregnant or nursing regarding enforcement activities,

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please remove unauthorized tobacco and marijuana products from the

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shelves like illegal flavored tobacco and marijuana products,

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and prosecute those who continue to sell them. Thank you for

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your continued enforcement actions that affirm your commitment to

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healthy and safe residents here in national city. Thank

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you and good evening. Thank you. Peggy walker.

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hi. Thank you. And good evening. I'm peggy walker, public health educator

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for considerable time. Now, medical professionals have warned that smoked

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and ingested dispensary marijuana products have no medical

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benefit yet. Unsubstantiated, misleading health

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claims by the industry persist. This issue

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will now be addressed in federal court. A new class action lawsuit

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accuses three major cannabis companies of systematically

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advertising their products as medicine. While knowing the science does

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not support those claims. In another lawsuit, the trump administration

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is being sued by a coalition, including doctors

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alleging failure to consider marijuana's well-documented health risks

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in rescheduling. I bring this here to urge awareness

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of mounting lawsuits alleging that unverified health

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claims of cannabis products have caused harm, especially

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when excessive potency is involved. And these lawsuits allege

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use can even worsen health conditions. You'll find if

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you check that product sold as medical in dispensaries.

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and yes, consumption lounges generally are the same

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as those sold as recreational marijuana.

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profiteers have deceived the public with false therapeutic claims

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for too long. In the worst con, since big tobacco

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efforts to hold a industry accountable, suggests it

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would serve public health to one codify prohibition

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of the sale and marketing of marijuana products as quote,

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medical, and two to enact potency caps.

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I urge you to consider those policy steps or to support

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them at a state level. Thank you. Thank

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you. And mayor, that concludes our comment. Alright, thank you very much

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with that, then, uh, we go into our recognition

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and we have our introduction of new hires and promotions on city employees.

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so we can start off first, how about with the, uh,

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with the police department captain?

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good evening, mayor, vice mayor, council, staff, and community. My name

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is chris sullivan. I'm a captain with the national city police department. I have the

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pleasure to introduce you to chance knight. Chance knight joined the

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national city police department in 2025. Uh, he was originally hired

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as an it analyst. Uh, his knowledge of it systems

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has been an invaluable resource to the department, not only to the department, but to the city

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as well. His impressive experience in his abilities. He was

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recently promoted to senior it analyst. Uh, chance has a

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great personality. He works great with everybody. Uh, he's

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also an extremely talented musician. He plays both the clarinet

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and the saxophone. And he also taught private lessons after high school.

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he loves animals and would love to volunteer at a local shelter in the near future.

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we are extremely proud of chance, our senior it analyst and we

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welcome to our national city family. Thank you. Uh,

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next we go over to engineering

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good evening. We have a live one from our department today,

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. I know, right? Uh, well, good evening, mayor, vice mayor, council

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member, staff and community. My name is marta juarez. I'm the acting

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director for engineering and public works. And tonight it's my true joy to

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announce this promotion in the engineering division of our department.

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jason jasmine first joined the city in 2017 as

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an unpaid volunteer, which he did for about three years later. He

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came back in 2022 as a part-time student worker. And,

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uh, while he continued to go to school, uh, a year later, he joined

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us as a full-time permanent employee in 2023. And has served

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on our team as an engineering technician the past three years.

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and during this time, jason worked really, really hard. He was doing double duty

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as he completed his bachelor's of science in civil engineering from

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sdsu, which he completed just about a month ago. So

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we wanna congratulate him on that .

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and, and earlier this year, he also passed the eit exam, the engineer and

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training exam with the state of california for civil engineering. So he's well in his way.

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he's an exemplary team member who provides excellent customer service, both

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internally and externally, uh, in any role regardless of the title.

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so we're very fortunate. The city's incredibly fortunate to have such a committed

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employee here. Please join me in congratulating jason and his promotion to junior

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engineer sybil. Thank you.

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thank you everybody for, uh, the, the, uh, gratitude. Um, I

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continue to look forward to helping and assisting, uh, the community, uh, within the confines of

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my position. So thank you very much, everyone. Nice.

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all right. Fire department.

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good evening, mayor, vice mayor, members of the council city staff and members of the

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public. Sergio mora fire chief, and it is my sincere pleasure to

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introduce jody and spirit. Uh, jody pierce is our new ems

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coordinator. Um, this is a new position for the fire department

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and jody's role will be to assist in the fire department in our efforts

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to enhance our quality assurance and quality improvement programs at the fire

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department. Jody will also play an integral part in be

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a key member of our staff as we develop our own emergency medical

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transport system. A little bit about jodi. Jodi has

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over 32 years in caring for people in emergency medicine.

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uh, ms. Pierce retired from the san diego fire rescue department as

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the deputy chief of emergency medical services. Throughout

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her career, she pour her energy into helping the ems division grow through major changes

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and into strengthening the city, the city's medical transportation system.

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jodi has also had the privilege of leading and supporting many incredible teams and programs

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such as, uh, education quality assurance, ems logistics,

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star paramedics, project heartbeat, community health, uh, the

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paramedic program for the city of san diego field training medical directors

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and ambulance transport agreements. One

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of the things jodi is most proud of is helping to expand how the city can show up

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for the people in need. And she want would like to do this by growing community

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health efforts, supporting alternate destination transport and improving emergency

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medical dispatch. I've known jodi for quite some time. And

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then we know jodi as someone who listens, brings people together, and keeps the focus

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on what matters most practical solutions that help crews do their

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best work and help patients get the right care at the right time.

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as mentioned, she was the deputy fire chief of emergency medicine city of san

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diego. So she brings a wealth of knowledge and experience to our ranks

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as we strive to make improvements in the medical services

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delivery system, uh, to our residents and to our visitors. We are

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extremely fortunate to have jodi join our ranks and look forward to her

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many contributions as we move forward. And as mentioned, jody

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comes with a, a great, great amount of experience and, and the things that

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we're trying to accomplish here in the fire department. Uh, and I will

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bring her around to meet, meet all of you in person here shortly. Thank you. Alright.

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okay, next, I'm gonna look to our, uh, acting city manager to, uh, introduce

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the next individual. Alright, thank you mayor. Council members of the public staff.

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uh, tonight I'm very excited to introduce our interim hr, our

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interim human resources director, rex sanders. Little background on, on

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rex. He, he grew up in, in gainesville, florida. So for those of

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you who are into sports, they pretty big time. Football,

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basketball, baseball. But rex, uh, by the time he

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was done growing up in a college town, uh, he wanted, he

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wanted a change of pace and, and new experiences. So he moved to the west coast, came

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to california, uh, finished his schooling, found

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his way into the hr world, and, uh, really

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had, um, but the bulk of his career working for

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a, a regional california public agency where he started really at

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the ground level as a technician and worked his way all the way up to an hr

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director. And ultimately, uh, an administrative services director, uh, made a

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career of it, um, decided to, uh, move to san the

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san diego region and, and co-founded a consulting firm where he

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continues with his partner to provide support to public agencies with

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all things human resources related. Uh, he, he also serves

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as the president of the public sector human resources association,

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san diego chapter. Um, you know, his resume, uh,

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speaks for itself. He comes with the wealth of, of experience. But,

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uh, what I really appreciate about rex is just his, his thoughtful

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approach in nature. Um, I had a conversation with

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him for about an hour. Um, he was referred to us from,

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from a colleague, and we initially, we instantly hit it off

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and I said, you know, I, I really want to take 'em to meet, um,

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the team at, at, at hr. And, uh, they've been through a lot. There's been

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a lot of transition in leadership with our hr staff.

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and we set up a meet and greet and, um, gave

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our staff an opportunity to get to know rex and ask some questions. And then, um,

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00:35:46,925 --> 00:35:50,845
I left. They had lunch, I came back and it was unanimous.

464
00:35:51,595 --> 00:35:55,065
they really wanted him to come on board right away. And

465
00:35:55,605 --> 00:35:59,445
I just sense, uh, an immediate calming, uh, for the staff

466
00:35:59,825 --> 00:36:03,485
for our department. And he's really coming in and filling a critical role.

467
00:36:03,985 --> 00:36:07,825
he did it, uh, immediately. And we look forward to, uh,

468
00:36:08,155 --> 00:36:11,585
getting to know rex more, working together across departments and,

469
00:36:12,665 --> 00:36:16,285
and, uh, everything that he brings to our organization. Rex, we really appreciate

470
00:36:16,805 --> 00:36:20,675
you being here and, um, contributing to our organization and look

471
00:36:20,965 --> 00:36:23,285
forward to working with you in the coming months.

472
00:36:32,105 --> 00:36:32,105
alright.

473
00:36:36,135 --> 00:36:37,955
you want, you wanna say anything? Rex ?

474
00:36:40,775 --> 00:36:44,655
not really, but I got those. Looks like I, , I were expecting. Um,

475
00:36:45,565 --> 00:36:49,555
thank you so much, steve, for the warm welcome. And I have to say that everybody at the city of national city who

476
00:36:49,755 --> 00:36:53,675
I have come in contact with, and there's plenty of other people that I still need to meet and, and connect

477
00:36:53,995 --> 00:36:57,955
with, has just been so welcoming and warm to me coming in. So thank

478
00:36:58,235 --> 00:37:02,155
you so much. It's helped me a lot. Get, get settled, especially the human

479
00:37:02,635 --> 00:37:06,375
resources team who you mentioned. Steve is, uh, one of the, um,

480
00:37:07,735 --> 00:37:11,545
the folks who just keep me inspired to keep coming back every day and working hard

481
00:37:11,835 --> 00:37:15,635
for the city. Several of 'em are here tonight. Um, and thank you for being here,

482
00:37:16,055 --> 00:37:19,775
uh, hr staff to support , um, me and the city. Um,

483
00:37:20,175 --> 00:37:24,015
it is my pleasure and, uh, an honor to serve this city, its

484
00:37:24,235 --> 00:37:28,205
staff and its residents. Um, so thank you so much for the opportunity, steve and everyone here. Thank

485
00:37:28,555 --> 00:37:32,515
you. Thank you. All right, next we go into

486
00:37:32,675 --> 00:37:36,295
presentations. Our first one is, uh, 7.1. This is, uh,

487
00:37:36,835 --> 00:37:39,855
edco. And give us an update here.

488
00:37:50,745 --> 00:37:53,585
adjusted up here. It stays.

489
00:37:55,085 --> 00:37:59,025
uh, so good evening, mayor and council. I'm carl sheva. Um, I'm the

490
00:37:59,145 --> 00:38:02,905
general manager of family owned and operated edco waste and recycling. And as always,

491
00:38:03,165 --> 00:38:07,025
I'm here with steve south, our ceo. And, uh, so we're just here to

492
00:38:07,185 --> 00:38:10,945
provide you a, an update and oh, thank you very much.

493
00:38:13,655 --> 00:38:17,595
if I can get this right, right. I wanted to talk

494
00:38:17,755 --> 00:38:21,755
a little bit about the, uh, rate increase and the rate increase for standard

495
00:38:21,905 --> 00:38:25,635
residential service. As you can see there, uh, went up a dollar

496
00:38:26,015 --> 00:38:29,875
one or 3.65%. Um, and I wanted

497
00:38:30,155 --> 00:38:34,075
to mention that these rates were part of a five year, two 18 already approved

498
00:38:34,215 --> 00:38:38,115
in 2023, and then will be effective july 1st, 2026.

499
00:38:41,385 --> 00:38:44,405
so, um, in addition, I wanted to point out that edco offers a 20%

500
00:38:45,405 --> 00:38:49,225
discount for seniors, um, at 2282. And

501
00:38:49,445 --> 00:38:53,145
as well as we also offer silver bags at the chamber, um,

502
00:38:53,785 --> 00:38:57,125
for those that produce small amounts of refuge and recycling

503
00:38:58,225 --> 00:39:02,165
at a, at a large discount. So, um, I also wanted to highlight, as you can

504
00:39:02,245 --> 00:39:05,945
see the chart there, um, there's a lot of cities up there and, um,

505
00:39:07,565 --> 00:39:11,545
edco continues to provide the lowest rate, um, in the region. So,

506
00:39:16,015 --> 00:39:19,175
all right, I wanted to talk about some of the programs that we have. Um,

507
00:39:20,215 --> 00:39:24,075
so every year we have four, three, uh, four free, bulky item

508
00:39:24,275 --> 00:39:28,025
curbside collections. Um, and then in addition to that, we have free shredding,

509
00:39:29,055 --> 00:39:32,605
uh, e-waste and mulch. And as you can see, there are over 700,000

510
00:39:33,855 --> 00:39:37,635
pounds hauled away from the numerous, uh, neighborhood cleanups

511
00:39:38,075 --> 00:39:41,215
that, uh, we've all partnered with public works on. Um,

512
00:39:42,135 --> 00:39:45,355
and couldn't do it without the public works department and their, their partnership,

513
00:39:46,415 --> 00:39:49,795
um, as well as council. Um, and so you can see that's a significant,

514
00:39:50,455 --> 00:39:54,375
uh, um, amount all the way. And I'm

515
00:39:54,595 --> 00:39:58,475
happy to say that, uh, we have 49%, uh, over a 49%

516
00:39:59,195 --> 00:40:02,635
diversion rate, so nearly half of that was recycled.

517
00:40:03,335 --> 00:40:07,175
so as you know, we don't own any landfills, so we're really incentivized, um,

518
00:40:08,055 --> 00:40:12,035
to recycle. And then I wanted to point out our public containers that you see throughout

519
00:40:12,435 --> 00:40:16,355
the city. Um, in total we donated 75 of those. And then more

520
00:40:16,795 --> 00:40:20,755
recently with the partnership public works, we're also refurbishing any of those

521
00:40:20,835 --> 00:40:24,535
that need, uh, to be refinished just to make sure that they, um, are

522
00:40:24,905 --> 00:40:27,455
well, um, presented in the public. So,

523
00:40:29,635 --> 00:40:33,325
alright. Um, and I think you've heard me talk about sb 1383

524
00:40:33,985 --> 00:40:37,845
for quite a few years now. Um, sb uh, 1383

525
00:40:38,285 --> 00:40:41,845
went into law in 2016 and we busily went to work,

526
00:40:42,745 --> 00:40:46,685
um, with staff to, to roll out organics to make sure that's diverted from

527
00:40:46,805 --> 00:40:50,765
the landfill. And I'm proud to say that, that those organics,

528
00:40:51,945 --> 00:40:55,685
um, in our anaerobic digester, um, are turned into renewable

529
00:40:56,165 --> 00:41:00,095
natural gas, right. And they're powering our trucks. So, uh, from an emission standpoint,

530
00:41:00,985 --> 00:41:04,185
um, very, very clean. Um, and that, uh,

531
00:41:06,245 --> 00:41:09,965
national city was the first one to be at 100% compliance on sb

532
00:41:10,325 --> 00:41:13,995
13 83 3 stream. And then that's continuous work from

533
00:41:14,825 --> 00:41:18,825
our reps and, uh, public work staff to make sure that we stay in

534
00:41:19,045 --> 00:41:21,195
compliance with state regulations. Okay.

535
00:41:24,135 --> 00:41:27,845
right. Um, also wanted to talk, um, a little about

536
00:41:28,505 --> 00:41:32,405
our enhanced public education. Um, as part of a state

537
00:41:32,685 --> 00:41:36,205
mandate of sb 1383, edco has developed a multi-level

538
00:41:37,435 --> 00:41:40,735
educational and outreach program. Um, we use social media,

539
00:41:41,945 --> 00:41:45,565
um, multiple layers, mailers, and, uh, we've developed a

540
00:41:46,235 --> 00:41:49,895
vast video library, um, over many years that's easily accessible.

541
00:41:51,465 --> 00:41:55,325
um, and then the next steps for our reps is to

542
00:41:55,485 --> 00:41:59,325
go out and, and visit, uh, dining or fast food restaurants

543
00:42:00,185 --> 00:42:04,005
and make sure that they're properly recycling, they have the right signage, they

544
00:42:04,205 --> 00:42:08,025
have the right containers, um, and that they meet the,

545
00:42:08,345 --> 00:42:12,165
uh, requirements of ab 8 27. Um, so we're

546
00:42:12,405 --> 00:42:16,225
busily working, um, doing, doing that out in the community right now.

547
00:42:21,025 --> 00:42:24,705
alright. Um, with that, um, that

548
00:42:25,155 --> 00:42:27,675
concludes my presentation unless there's any questions,

549
00:42:29,955 --> 00:42:33,945
comments. Thank you, carl. Such

550
00:42:34,275 --> 00:42:38,135
a pleasure to see you again. And steve, thank you for coming and visiting us. It,

551
00:42:38,375 --> 00:42:42,235
it is such a wonderful partnership that national city has with edco.

552
00:42:42,395 --> 00:42:46,295
thank you for everything. Um, I always remember the visit that I had to

553
00:42:46,515 --> 00:42:50,315
visit the digester. Um, I, I would love to have another visit. And, and,

554
00:42:50,575 --> 00:42:54,545
uh, I know that, uh, I do, you do offer visits to visit that

555
00:42:55,075 --> 00:42:58,805
location. I, I know that at the time that I visited, it was several weeks, several years

556
00:42:59,295 --> 00:43:02,415
ago. Uh, I don't know if there's another update to the,

557
00:43:03,375 --> 00:43:07,375
the situation with the digester. I think there was another one that was coming on board. Yeah. Um,

558
00:43:07,595 --> 00:43:11,235
that's the great point. And we offer tours anytime anybody wants to tour there.

559
00:43:12,095 --> 00:43:15,975
um, it's very interesting and educational. Um, and, uh, so

560
00:43:16,195 --> 00:43:19,955
we can set that up. And then in addition to that, we've had two additional chambers

561
00:43:20,495 --> 00:43:24,315
to the enter digester. Mm-hmm . Nice. We also got a grant from the state that's helping us with that.

562
00:43:24,855 --> 00:43:28,395
so allow us to have more and more tons within the digester producing

563
00:43:28,905 --> 00:43:32,615
more gas and, uh, helping the city reach its goals for usb

564
00:43:33,035 --> 00:43:37,015
1383. Well, I'll book another tour 'cause I would love to visit and, and see the new updates. And

565
00:43:37,235 --> 00:43:40,895
yeah. Uh, I encourage anybody interested in all of that. The, the tour is

566
00:43:41,395 --> 00:43:45,315
fascinating. All of the science is explained. It is a little smelly, but you know, my background

567
00:43:45,695 --> 00:43:49,115
is in fermentation, so I didn't mind the smells at all. So. Perfect. Thank you.

568
00:43:49,805 --> 00:43:52,115
thank you. Mine two, but that was something .

569
00:43:57,225 --> 00:44:00,955
alright. Okay. Yes. Thank you mayor. Thank you carl

570
00:44:01,295 --> 00:44:05,255
for this presentation. Thank you for this report. We just like to, um, extend

571
00:44:05,675 --> 00:44:09,455
again the, the, the, um, thanks, thanks to you and ed echo. And

572
00:44:09,795 --> 00:44:13,415
I see our ceo there hiding all, always very humble. Um,

573
00:44:13,855 --> 00:44:17,795
you know, I mean, during our cleanup, not only do we see all of you there, but we

574
00:44:17,955 --> 00:44:21,625
see the ceo also, uh, lifting a finger to make sure that our city

575
00:44:22,255 --> 00:44:25,995
is clean from all those, um, the, the things

576
00:44:26,305 --> 00:44:29,995
that we, we collect. I know we have another one june 20, so we look forward

577
00:44:30,495 --> 00:44:34,045
to that, um, cleanup day again. Thank you, sir. Absolutely.

578
00:44:34,625 --> 00:44:38,525
and I thought I'd just quickly mention that. Um, it's just a public, uh, it's

579
00:44:38,805 --> 00:44:42,125
a real pleasure working with public works with martha and steve and the whole group.

580
00:44:42,825 --> 00:44:46,245
um, and we're all out there in the community working side by side, but most recently

581
00:44:46,865 --> 00:44:50,365
we had public works appreciation week and so we kinda sponsored

582
00:44:50,925 --> 00:44:54,845
a little over there and I got to spend time as well as

583
00:44:54,965 --> 00:44:58,925
some of our staff got to spend time. 'cause typically we're out there working side by side

584
00:44:59,085 --> 00:45:02,585
at cleanups. But, uh, we gotta spend some time there. And, uh, just gotta say

585
00:45:03,155 --> 00:45:07,125
that entire team was a pleasure to be around and you could tell they really take pride in what they're doing.

586
00:45:07,675 --> 00:45:11,455
okay. I good. Thanks mayor. Uh, thank you all carl. And, um, thank

587
00:45:11,805 --> 00:45:15,405
you so much again for all the great work that you continue to do in our city and the great partnership.

588
00:45:16,085 --> 00:45:20,035
I still remember, um, you all are available whenever we need

589
00:45:20,325 --> 00:45:24,205
to have a cleanup or whenever there's a disaster that hits our city as it did a few years ago,

590
00:45:24,405 --> 00:45:28,285
is something that I certainly remember and keep close to my heart and really thank

591
00:45:28,485 --> 00:45:32,205
you and your employees for coming out and continuing to assist our community. Thank you.

592
00:45:32,905 --> 00:45:36,875
but if there's anything we can do better, we're available. 7 24. Okay. Well,

593
00:45:37,305 --> 00:45:41,285
uh, member bush is gonna tell you what you can do better now. . Yeah, I, um, don't have

594
00:45:41,405 --> 00:45:45,245
much, uh, to add beyond my colleagues. Um, I'm really happy with the service

595
00:45:45,415 --> 00:45:49,325
level you provide, especially when I look at some of the chaos that some of your competitors

596
00:45:50,405 --> 00:45:54,165
republic, I think as a competitor and just like how the labor disputes they have and everything

597
00:45:54,445 --> 00:45:58,345
else. I hear a lot, what I care about a lot is workers and

598
00:45:58,565 --> 00:46:02,365
how a company treats their workers and ever nothing but good things from your, your workforce

599
00:46:02,735 --> 00:46:06,685
about you all. So I really appreciate that. And then especially the, um, community events

600
00:46:06,845 --> 00:46:10,645
you guys do quarterly, the the cleanups. I think that helps not just clean up, uh, our neighborhoods,

601
00:46:11,085 --> 00:46:15,005
our residents use advantage, uh, take advantage of that. And it, it just, it just really helps.

602
00:46:15,225 --> 00:46:19,205
so I really am satisfied with the work you guys are doing. I don't have, and yeah, the mirror's,

603
00:46:19,445 --> 00:46:23,405
right? I'm not afraid to give constructive feedback. And so, um, I I honestly, I

604
00:46:23,525 --> 00:46:27,385
don't, I don't have any, like, I think you guys do a great job and I'm

605
00:46:27,605 --> 00:46:31,565
open to, you know, we have budget discussions if there's in the future, not for

606
00:46:31,685 --> 00:46:35,685
tonight 'cause not ize, but if there's anything creative that, um, that we can partner

607
00:46:36,105 --> 00:46:39,725
on to, that's a win-win. Um, you know, I'm definitely

608
00:46:40,395 --> 00:46:44,325
open to hearing what more creative things that, that we could be

609
00:46:44,445 --> 00:46:47,955
doing to, to partner. So I really appreciate the work you guys have done. Yeah,

610
00:46:48,525 --> 00:46:52,405
absolutely. And if, uh, there's anything that we, you think we could do better? Um, any of

611
00:46:52,565 --> 00:46:56,295
the council members, mayor, we're available all the time. Um, steve

612
00:46:56,645 --> 00:47:00,555
always says 7 24 and he means it, well sometimes

613
00:47:01,165 --> 00:47:05,005
even beyond that point. Uh, and, uh, you know, I've enjoyed through the decades working

614
00:47:05,795 --> 00:47:09,645
with edco and, and through our solid, uh, uh, regional solid waste association

615
00:47:10,085 --> 00:47:13,545
and everything else and, and the commitments that we put together. And, uh,

616
00:47:14,145 --> 00:47:17,785
but as I say, everyone's got nothing but great things to say about edco and,

617
00:47:18,185 --> 00:47:21,715
uh, and I agree. I mean, you guys are out there all the time, um, and whether

618
00:47:22,305 --> 00:47:26,285
if it is a trash situation or if it's a community project, whether if it's

619
00:47:26,675 --> 00:47:30,545
roofing a house on steve yes. Yes. And, uh,

620
00:47:31,065 --> 00:47:35,025
uh, or a flood say what? Or a flood. Or

621
00:47:35,285 --> 00:47:39,245
a flood, yes. But, uh, yeah, he'll have to tell you about his story about roofing a house one of these

622
00:47:39,325 --> 00:47:43,145
days. He's back there shaking his head like, no, I won't. Okay. Uh, but,

623
00:47:43,425 --> 00:47:47,205
uh, uh, but anyway, yeah, and you know, and you talk about the bio digesters and a lot

624
00:47:47,445 --> 00:47:51,015
of people go, okay, it sounds really nice, but, you know, those are four standalone

625
00:47:52,255 --> 00:47:55,245
containers, uh, half a million gallons a piece.

626
00:47:56,305 --> 00:47:59,685
and so all of your yard waste or your food waste,

627
00:48:00,505 --> 00:48:04,205
you know, you wonder where all that stuff goes. It goes into those things and they go up there to escondido

628
00:48:04,905 --> 00:48:08,685
to their plant up there, and, uh, then you fill it with

629
00:48:08,915 --> 00:48:12,885
enzymes and by the time it gets done, it's got a whole lot of methane gas, which is

630
00:48:13,045 --> 00:48:16,835
what you use to, to run your trucks. And there's not much left

631
00:48:17,805 --> 00:48:21,545
, uh, by the time those enzymes get done with all that stuff. But, uh,

632
00:48:22,065 --> 00:48:25,985
but it's, it's a great way of, of recycling and, uh, and, and

633
00:48:26,225 --> 00:48:30,205
yet at the same time, uh, turning it into something useful. So once again, you

634
00:48:30,365 --> 00:48:34,325
guys, and, and believe me, I, because I go to most of the trade shows, the, uh, uh, the

635
00:48:34,445 --> 00:48:38,385
trash trade shows around and edco is the envy of, of so

636
00:48:38,605 --> 00:48:41,965
many because you're, we're based, we're used to these huge corporations

637
00:48:43,185 --> 00:48:46,245
and edco is the largest family owned trash company in the united states.

638
00:48:47,305 --> 00:48:51,285
and so it's different than, you know, one of these ones that's traded on the, uh, on the

639
00:48:51,445 --> 00:48:55,245
stock exchange or something else, and is very personal. And as, uh, member bush

640
00:48:55,555 --> 00:48:59,465
says, uh, your employees constantly rave about working for edco. And

641
00:48:59,685 --> 00:49:03,645
that's, uh, that's something good to say in this day and age. Well, thank

642
00:49:03,845 --> 00:49:07,725
you. And, and, uh, have to give, uh, credit to our employees too. Absolutely. Just

643
00:49:08,245 --> 00:49:12,135
absolute pleasure working with them. We're blessed. Thank you. Alright, thank you very much. Thank

644
00:49:12,485 --> 00:49:15,965
you. Alright, next we go on to, uh, 7.2.

645
00:49:16,645 --> 00:49:18,305
this is building together mural reveal.

646
00:49:20,665 --> 00:49:22,965
and who is gonna kick this one off?

647
00:49:26,855 --> 00:49:28,985
well, I guess we're just going to bring up the crew.

648
00:49:33,825 --> 00:49:37,595
okay. Uh, yep. You can use that. Just identify yourself and let's

649
00:49:37,835 --> 00:49:41,565
go with it. Alright. Good, good evening, mr. Mayor and, uh, city council. Thank

650
00:49:41,915 --> 00:49:45,715
you for taking the time to hear us out tonight. Um, we're the vision culture

651
00:49:46,005 --> 00:49:49,155
foundation, uh, based right here in national city on highland avenue.

652
00:49:50,135 --> 00:49:53,555
um, we do art, art therapy, mental health support, resources.

653
00:49:54,295 --> 00:49:57,675
um, we do a lot in the community. Um, all our programming's free.

654
00:49:58,415 --> 00:50:02,195
um, but we wanted to bring tonight to your, uh, attention. There's

655
00:50:02,715 --> 00:50:06,675
a, there's an opportunity for national city. So I'm gonna talk about that. I'll keep it as brief as

656
00:50:06,915 --> 00:50:10,745
I can. Hey, . Okay,

657
00:50:11,135 --> 00:50:15,015
so, okay. So on may 2nd, um, we

658
00:50:15,235 --> 00:50:19,235
did a party with you guys. Um, we, it was a building together. We painted a

659
00:50:19,355 --> 00:50:23,155
mural. It's up in the top left hand corner where this slide, um, it's at the public works

660
00:50:23,675 --> 00:50:27,605
building on 18th and wilson. Um, that's some other stuff

661
00:50:27,805 --> 00:50:31,495
we've done in the community real fast. That's under, uh, ma, which

662
00:50:31,845 --> 00:50:35,745
is, uh, on division in palm on the east side. And then, um,

663
00:50:35,965 --> 00:50:39,765
there's a few other projects as well. Uh, thanks speaking to edco again.

664
00:50:40,045 --> 00:50:43,885
thank you. Uh, thanks to edco. We were able to finish the 18th street bridge on the east

665
00:50:44,085 --> 00:50:47,805
side as well, um, that mural. Um, so anyway,

666
00:50:48,235 --> 00:50:52,045
what we want to talk about tonight is for over 40 years, we're talking about

667
00:50:52,365 --> 00:50:56,165
a specific corridor, and it's right by nash, right by the public works building on 18th and wilson.

668
00:50:56,865 --> 00:51:00,485
so for over 40 years, that corridor has cost the city money through repeated graffiti

669
00:51:01,045 --> 00:51:04,855
abatement. Um, we're bringing an event that's never

670
00:51:05,205 --> 00:51:08,955
come to this city before. It's, it's been around for 30 plus years. They've

671
00:51:09,445 --> 00:51:12,965
done over 400 events all over the world. It's an inter it's an international

672
00:51:13,525 --> 00:51:17,385
art event. Okay. And it's finally coming to san diego. So we're hoping to,

673
00:51:17,625 --> 00:51:21,565
to partner with the city again. Um, it's an opportunity to permanently transform

674
00:51:21,805 --> 00:51:25,725
the space on 18th and wilson into internationally recognized public art destination

675
00:51:26,785 --> 00:51:30,705
at almost no cost to the city. And we say almost no cost because it, it

676
00:51:30,925 --> 00:51:34,845
would be the same as we did on the second. I don't know if you guys recall, but all we did was shut

677
00:51:35,085 --> 00:51:39,005
down a couple streets and had detour signs. That's it. We didn't, we, there was no

678
00:51:39,205 --> 00:51:43,045
additional cost. Um, so like I was saying about meeting

679
00:51:43,445 --> 00:51:47,205
a styles, it's a global public art movement. Um, it's a world

680
00:51:47,805 --> 00:51:51,355
recognized street art platform, um, all around the world. It'll help establish

681
00:51:52,365 --> 00:51:56,005
national city as an instant global cultural infrastructure, um, and international.

682
00:51:56,665 --> 00:52:00,605
and it brings an international artistic exchange and it'll become

683
00:52:01,205 --> 00:52:04,785
a world renowned mural movement for the city. Um, the, the event itself,

684
00:52:05,355 --> 00:52:09,305
like I said, over 30 years of history, 400 plus events, um,

685
00:52:09,905 --> 00:52:13,685
brings the best artists from all over the planet. Um, and it'll,

686
00:52:13,965 --> 00:52:17,495
it'll, it'll leave permanent large scale public murals in that area. And it, it'll

687
00:52:18,165 --> 00:52:21,305
attract community engagement and tourism activation. Um,

688
00:52:22,405 --> 00:52:26,005
national city already has the culture here. We're not importing culture into the city.

689
00:52:26,595 --> 00:52:29,965
it's just amplify, amplifying what what already exists here in national city.

690
00:52:31,045 --> 00:52:34,885
national city has deep roots, deep roots in hip hop, muralism, low rider culture

691
00:52:35,265 --> 00:52:39,245
and street art. Um, we're a very tight-knit community. A

692
00:52:39,445 --> 00:52:43,005
a very diverse working class community. Our leadership, we have an

693
00:52:43,485 --> 00:52:47,285
existing public art committee. Um, art is kind of important. We don't have an, uh,

694
00:52:47,505 --> 00:52:51,445
an an art district yet, but it's important to the city. Youth arts as well. There's

695
00:52:51,845 --> 00:52:55,845
a strong youth arts ecosystem. We're part of it. Um, and the

696
00:52:56,245 --> 00:52:59,675
location, it's, you know, national city's beachfront property right here. Very

697
00:53:00,325 --> 00:53:04,265
strategic location in south bay and san diego region. Um, for

698
00:53:04,485 --> 00:53:08,055
decades, the city has, has repeatedly painted over vandalized walls,

699
00:53:09,075 --> 00:53:13,005
removed graff, spent money removing graffiti, spent money late on labor,

700
00:53:13,585 --> 00:53:17,365
on, on covering up this paint, spent maintenance funds. And it's,

701
00:53:17,715 --> 00:53:21,545
it's been a repeated cycle endlessly for over 40 years. Right. Um, but

702
00:53:21,765 --> 00:53:25,365
meeting a stylists has the opportunity to interrupt that. Um, it's large scale

703
00:53:25,795 --> 00:53:29,745
respected murals. People don't want to vandalize things that are respected, you

704
00:53:29,965 --> 00:53:33,965
know what I mean? It's painted from community members that, that are very well known in the art

705
00:53:34,125 --> 00:53:38,125
community. It will dramatically reduce tagging. It will create a

706
00:53:38,245 --> 00:53:41,795
sense of community stewardship and ownership. It will discourage vandalism

707
00:53:42,465 --> 00:53:46,265
and it will reduce those reoccurring abatement costs. It'll save the,

708
00:53:46,505 --> 00:53:50,325
the city tons of money. We did a study a while back and it, it

709
00:53:50,525 --> 00:53:54,405
costs the city over 30 grand every couple months. You know what I mean? Just in graffiti

710
00:53:54,845 --> 00:53:58,405
abatement alone. Um, so again, the cheapest graffiti abatement

711
00:53:59,085 --> 00:54:02,965
strategy is creating spaces. People no longer want to vandalize. And how do you do that? You

712
00:54:03,445 --> 00:54:07,365
activate it with art and vibrant, beautiful murals. This is the area

713
00:54:07,615 --> 00:54:10,725
we're talking about right here. It's on 18th and 19th.

714
00:54:12,145 --> 00:54:16,045
wilson and mckinley are the, are the, the sides. So, so it's all that area down

715
00:54:16,325 --> 00:54:20,125
under there. It's on the west side. It's right by the public works building. That's that

716
00:54:20,485 --> 00:54:24,325
building in the top, top corner. Um, the event that we're

717
00:54:24,565 --> 00:54:28,525
hoping to, to do is on sunday, july 19th. And the only thing that we need

718
00:54:28,685 --> 00:54:32,645
from the city is, is to close the street. That's it. The same thing that we did

719
00:54:32,765 --> 00:54:36,765
before. This is the area right here. And as if you look at these pictures, you can see

720
00:54:36,985 --> 00:54:40,245
all that buff paint all over it. It's just an endless cycle.

721
00:54:41,175 --> 00:54:44,845
james and his crew, this is, if you guys don't know this, it's the man right here.

722
00:54:47,735 --> 00:54:51,515
james and his crew spent countless hours down there painting over this stuff that

723
00:54:51,805 --> 00:54:55,765
gets, it, gets hit all the time. This would immediately activate

724
00:54:55,885 --> 00:54:59,505
the space. It would kind of defacto start like an art

725
00:55:00,525 --> 00:55:04,465
district, you know what I mean? Overnight, you know what I mean? Because these artists come and,

726
00:55:04,685 --> 00:55:08,685
and the reason why it won't cost the city any, any money is because these artists come from all over the

727
00:55:08,845 --> 00:55:12,685
world and they bring their own paint. They bring their own, they, they, they get their own ladders.

728
00:55:13,165 --> 00:55:16,985
they have their own crews, they have their own helpers. They get in one day and

729
00:55:17,205 --> 00:55:21,125
they get out. You know what I mean? It's, there's a theme. And this year it's comic-con

730
00:55:21,645 --> 00:55:25,485
theme. So the area that that was assigned to this would be

731
00:55:25,665 --> 00:55:29,305
all, um, like, like, uh, cartoons. So it'd be cartoon themes.

732
00:55:29,785 --> 00:55:33,665
it would be like betty boop and, you know what I mean? Just think of any kind of cartoon, any era

733
00:55:34,115 --> 00:55:38,045
that those are the themes. Um, so it's, it's all this area right here.

734
00:55:38,165 --> 00:55:42,125
and can you imagine if it was just activated with color, just like that one photo where you could see our

735
00:55:42,285 --> 00:55:46,205
little mural up there. Um, it would change it overnight. This is the party

736
00:55:46,365 --> 00:55:50,275
that we did on may 2nd. These are just some photos from it. It was a really great time.

737
00:55:50,905 --> 00:55:54,445
we know you guys were busy doing city interviews and stuff like that mm-hmm .

738
00:55:55,145 --> 00:55:58,865
but we just want to thank you again for allowing it to happen. 'cause it was, it was a great day.

739
00:55:59,305 --> 00:56:03,085
um, we had a lot of fun and, uh, there was obviously no incidents

740
00:56:03,365 --> 00:56:07,365
or anything like that. It was just a a, a really fun day. Um, and we just wanna do

741
00:56:07,525 --> 00:56:11,475
the same thing on july 19th is just activate that space. Let the artists come

742
00:56:11,765 --> 00:56:15,685
in, these international world re renowned artists with their guidelines and everything

743
00:56:15,965 --> 00:56:18,055
that they're allowed to paint and then, and then get out. Right.

744
00:56:20,425 --> 00:56:24,225
so I'll, I'll I'm almost done guys. Sorry. No problem. So

745
00:56:24,465 --> 00:56:28,165
the beautiful public spaces, it improves community wellness. And that's a fact.

746
00:56:28,545 --> 00:56:32,405
you know what I mean? It it, environmental psychology investing in beautiful

747
00:56:32,765 --> 00:56:36,485
spaces recognizes that our physical surroundings deeply dictate our inner, our wellbeing.

748
00:56:37,395 --> 00:56:41,145
it's, it creates a sense of belonging. Curated public areas in, uh,

749
00:56:41,405 --> 00:56:44,685
invite diverse residents to step outta isolation, gather collectively

750
00:56:45,425 --> 00:56:49,425
and form deep social connections. It's also a sense of identity. Public art and

751
00:56:49,645 --> 00:56:53,605
thoughtful design. Reflect and honor, reflect and honor a community's unique

752
00:56:53,885 --> 00:56:57,505
history, culture, and roots. Um, public art reduces visual blight

753
00:56:58,325 --> 00:57:01,085
increases na, neighborhood pride creates safer feeling. Environments

754
00:57:02,565 --> 00:57:06,365
encourages walking and gathering. And, um, by gathering we mean that

755
00:57:06,645 --> 00:57:10,245
that area could then be activated for street festivals, farmer's markets,

756
00:57:10,665 --> 00:57:14,485
you know what I mean? Um, things like that. It supports youth expression and artistic expression.

757
00:57:15,425 --> 00:57:18,765
and it po it will positively impact the community's emotional wellbeing.

758
00:57:19,845 --> 00:57:23,625
'cause people deserve to see beauty where they live. Um, uh,

759
00:57:23,915 --> 00:57:27,685
yeah, we already said that. . So here's

760
00:57:28,045 --> 00:57:32,045
what national city gets, is this artwork can either remain as either a permanent

761
00:57:32,245 --> 00:57:36,055
public asset or it also opens the door to activate this space

762
00:57:36,745 --> 00:57:40,205
in order for national city to host quarterly yearly art festivals.

763
00:57:40,785 --> 00:57:44,445
so it doesn't have to, we don't have to keep these inter national murals forever.

764
00:57:44,905 --> 00:57:48,755
it can be, you know, interchanged all the time using artists from

765
00:57:49,045 --> 00:57:52,965
the area, from these neighborhoods. Um, these are, like I

766
00:57:53,085 --> 00:57:56,925
said, these are large scale murals. It's a big area. So overnight it would get international

767
00:57:57,525 --> 00:58:01,345
recognition. It would beautify the infrastructure over there that, that gets tagged

768
00:58:01,785 --> 00:58:05,685
on every day. Um, inspires the youth that see that in their community.

769
00:58:06,615 --> 00:58:10,325
it'll attract tourism and visitors for sure. Because this is, this is a,

770
00:58:10,635 --> 00:58:14,325
this, this event's been going on over 30 years internationally. It's huge.

771
00:58:15,185 --> 00:58:18,725
um, it'll bring positive media attention, community activation, reduce vandalism,

772
00:58:19,305 --> 00:58:23,205
and it leaves a cultural legacy. Um, I think

773
00:58:23,365 --> 00:58:27,165
you guys get, just like, have you guys ever heard of art basel in, in miami? It's a huge

774
00:58:27,765 --> 00:58:31,725
festival they do every year. Yeah. And they activate all the south beach and it, it would basically, essentially

775
00:58:32,235 --> 00:58:36,025
turn national city into that overnight. You know what I mean? So

776
00:58:37,145 --> 00:58:40,725
that's really it. Guys. I already kind of touched on this. The artists donate and volunteer

777
00:58:41,205 --> 00:58:45,085
their, their labor. They do it, you know, um, we'll organize all

778
00:58:45,285 --> 00:58:49,165
the logistics just like we did for the last party. And all we need from you guys is just to

779
00:58:49,325 --> 00:58:52,925
support the, support the party on that day, you know?

780
00:58:53,395 --> 00:58:57,385
okay. Good. Um, so yeah, I'm

781
00:58:57,605 --> 00:59:01,415
good. Do you wanna say anything? No, I just wanted to say guys, thank you guys vision, culture for

782
00:59:02,075 --> 00:59:06,075
stepping up and helping our community as well. Um, I've been doing this for going on 20 years

783
00:59:06,415 --> 00:59:10,335
and this is something we're doing new in our city to beautify our community and

784
00:59:10,555 --> 00:59:14,495
keep it safe and, and put color into it. I mean, if you've gone to that street on

785
00:59:14,955 --> 00:59:18,875
18th and 19th street by yourself at night, good luck. You'd be scared. ,

786
00:59:18,985 --> 00:59:22,875
believe me, I wouldn't even go on there if I wasn't there. It's very dark and dingy. It's, it's

787
00:59:23,165 --> 00:59:26,965
scary. But if we could do something like this in our community to keep it safe

788
00:59:27,305 --> 00:59:31,225
mm-hmm . And the one thing that, uh, rj and I were doing the first, you know, project on

789
00:59:31,445 --> 00:59:35,265
the public works building, we, we kind of talked about it like we

790
00:59:35,485 --> 00:59:39,285
seen elderly. We see young kids walking through

791
00:59:39,805 --> 00:59:42,845
there throughout the day, not a certain time throughout the day.

792
00:59:43,905 --> 00:59:47,775
and all the elements around there man is just pretty scary. We've

793
00:59:48,125 --> 00:59:52,065
seen some stuff as we're working. We see some crazy stuff down there at night. Yeah. So

794
00:59:52,305 --> 00:59:55,925
it, to us, to beautify our community, we're in the right step of doing this.

795
00:59:56,515 --> 01:00:00,445
this is what this happened. This is the answer. These guys, this is the answer.

796
01:00:00,605 --> 01:00:04,075
this is the answer that what I'm doing. It's a bad because

797
01:00:04,625 --> 01:00:08,605
it is a cat and mouse chase. I'll buffet it three hours later and hit again.

798
01:00:08,885 --> 01:00:12,685
mm-hmm . And we're losing money, we're losing the battle. And these guys

799
01:00:12,905 --> 01:00:16,805
are stepping up and, uh, be able to do that for our community.

800
01:00:17,545 --> 01:00:21,365
not just do that, but our mental health and working with our youth. High school

801
01:00:21,595 --> 01:00:25,505
kids, not just the high school kids, but also the, the elderly across

802
01:00:25,925 --> 01:00:29,245
the street. They teach graffiti art to be elderly.

803
01:00:30,385 --> 01:00:34,345
that's amazing. That tells you there's no boundary or age of the art

804
01:00:34,945 --> 01:00:38,765
who not considering looking at it as a bad thing anymore. It's a good thing.

805
01:00:39,705 --> 01:00:43,405
and that's what we're trying to create in our community, is to do better things.

806
01:00:44,325 --> 01:00:46,005
'cause what we're doing in the past, guess what?

807
01:00:48,695 --> 01:00:52,625
we gotta find different avenues. Go outside the box, collaborate with

808
01:00:52,915 --> 01:00:56,635
these young men, with young minds and great in our communities.

809
01:00:57,145 --> 01:01:00,975
they don't have to be here, but they're here. Yeah. For the old, why

810
01:01:01,195 --> 01:01:05,075
could they take pride in our community? I just gotta thank them. Thank you guys for

811
01:01:05,275 --> 01:01:09,235
doing. Thank you. Thank you. That was

812
01:01:09,315 --> 01:01:13,005
beautiful. I wanna add also young women and children to that group,

813
01:01:14,255 --> 01:01:18,005
but I just wanna say on, on b, my name is jessica marie banya.

814
01:01:18,415 --> 01:01:22,235
I'm a licensed clinical social worker. I go by ree. It's so good to see you all again.

815
01:01:23,795 --> 01:01:27,315
I just wanna say we have so much gratitude. We've been working together for a long time,

816
01:01:27,815 --> 01:01:31,785
you know, with the low rider, uh, culture movement, it's, I mean even,

817
01:01:32,645 --> 01:01:36,555
let's go back to even like the elections. My daughter, she's now 14

818
01:01:36,775 --> 01:01:40,715
and she was a part of the interview process and you know, the questions that we asked like several

819
01:01:40,915 --> 01:01:44,235
years ago and we're here still working together. I just wanna add that

820
01:01:45,035 --> 01:01:48,915
I know we said, um, community wellbeing and, you know, these are all like punch words

821
01:01:49,305 --> 01:01:53,195
that, you know, I think we know to use. We're aware of what

822
01:01:53,395 --> 01:01:57,275
it is. Um, but I just wanna say thank you, uh, to our mayor

823
01:01:57,575 --> 01:02:01,355
and to city council just for being in collaboration.

824
01:02:02,685 --> 01:02:06,555
we're, we're, we're collaborators in this work in really just loving

825
01:02:06,835 --> 01:02:10,755
our people, loving our community, loving our youth, loving our elderly,

826
01:02:11,735 --> 01:02:15,415
and just seeing the power that we have within. It's a beautiful thing. So

827
01:02:16,035 --> 01:02:19,845
I know we're here. We, we had a wonderful presentation thank you rj for this and for the whole team.

828
01:02:20,065 --> 01:02:23,875
but I just wanted to add that this is, uh, suicide prevention. This

829
01:02:24,165 --> 01:02:28,065
is mental health wellness and community wellness and wellbeing. These are the ways in

830
01:02:28,285 --> 01:02:32,165
which we could do that is by continuing this collaboration that we have with one another.

831
01:02:32,325 --> 01:02:36,285
and we're it, we're here, you know, I, I like wake up every day. I'm like,

832
01:02:36,365 --> 01:02:40,245
oh my gosh. Like, oh, our friends, our people, our colleagues, our city council, you know, ,

833
01:02:40,665 --> 01:02:44,405
you know, we're not just begging to be heard. We're, we're working together in community.

834
01:02:44,945 --> 01:02:48,365
so I appreciate it. We appreciate it. Yeah. Okay. Questions. Alright.

835
01:02:53,705 --> 01:02:57,605
do you guys have questions or? Well, well before we do, let me just find out who all is

836
01:02:57,965 --> 01:03:01,965
speaking because I got a bunch of speaker slips here and I want to see if you're the ones up here. So do

837
01:03:02,125 --> 01:03:06,055
we have, uh, gazelle, giselle, or she's back there?

838
01:03:06,385 --> 01:03:10,375
she's got separately. Okay. How about larry? Okay, so larry's right there.

839
01:03:11,195 --> 01:03:14,795
uh, and then we got george. George

840
01:03:15,375 --> 01:03:18,935
right there. Uh, last name is ramirez

841
01:03:19,715 --> 01:03:23,695
ine. Ah, ine okay. . Okay. You notices how I did that. Then we

842
01:03:23,815 --> 01:03:27,805
have angela. Angela. Oh, angela's over there.

843
01:03:27,955 --> 01:03:31,565
okay, come on up there. And carlos. Carlos right there. Okay.

844
01:03:32,155 --> 01:03:36,155
alright. So we know who all, who all we had there. Uh, alright.

845
01:03:37,225 --> 01:03:41,025
um, so if any of you who I just said who

846
01:03:41,245 --> 01:03:44,595
want to also speak will give you a quick chance to do that also.

847
01:03:45,635 --> 01:03:49,605
okay. Okay. Um, I can start. Hi, my name is giselle. I'm a community advocate and

848
01:03:49,765 --> 01:03:53,325
artist. Um, my family has lived a long time in national city.

849
01:03:54,265 --> 01:03:57,485
um, for decades, these walls have told a story of neglect,

850
01:03:58,405 --> 01:04:01,965
maintain maintenance, and erasure. Every layer of paint covering graffiti

851
01:04:02,445 --> 01:04:06,365
has been an attempt to solve a problem without addressing its root. And tonight we

852
01:04:06,525 --> 01:04:10,325
have an opportunity to tell a different story. Uh, meeting of styles is not simply

853
01:04:10,625 --> 01:04:14,485
an art event. It's an act of transformation. It is the belief that the

854
01:04:14,645 --> 01:04:18,505
places we pass every day should reflect the beauty, creativity, and humanity of

855
01:04:18,725 --> 01:04:22,645
people who live here. It is understanding that the walls can do more than divide

856
01:04:22,965 --> 01:04:26,945
spaces. They can carry our history, our struggles, our dreams, and

857
01:04:27,165 --> 01:04:31,085
our collective imagination. National city does not need culture

858
01:04:31,645 --> 01:04:35,585
imported into it. Culture is already here. It lives in our families, our

859
01:04:35,805 --> 01:04:38,815
neighborhoods, our youth, our artists, our low rider traditions,

860
01:04:39,905 --> 01:04:43,565
our murals, and our streets. Um, what meeting of styles offers

861
01:04:43,945 --> 01:04:47,895
is a platform to honor that culture and to place it on a global stage.

862
01:04:48,785 --> 01:04:52,145
um, imagine stepping off the trolley and being greeted not by

863
01:04:52,855 --> 01:04:56,805
great concrete, but by stories. Imagine young people seeing artists from

864
01:04:57,045 --> 01:05:00,925
around the world, painting alongside local creatives and realizing that their

865
01:05:01,085 --> 01:05:04,085
own voice, their own vision, belongs in the future of the city.

866
01:05:05,265 --> 01:05:09,125
um, public art does something powerful. It reminds people that

867
01:05:09,405 --> 01:05:13,205
they matter. It tells residents that their neighborhood is worthy of care,

868
01:05:13,765 --> 01:05:17,185
worthy of beauty, and worthy of investment. 40 years from now,

869
01:05:17,945 --> 01:05:21,165
no one will remember how many gallons of paints were used to cover these walls,

870
01:05:22,065 --> 01:05:26,045
but they may remember the moment. National city chose creativity over maintenance,

871
01:05:26,955 --> 01:05:29,875
possibility over limitation, and community over neglect.

872
01:05:30,995 --> 01:05:34,845
this is more than just murals. This is placemaking. This is cultural stewardship.

873
01:05:35,795 --> 01:05:39,745
this is a declaration that national city believes beauty belongs to

874
01:05:40,245 --> 01:05:43,975
everyone. I urge you to support this partnership. Thank you. Thank

875
01:05:44,325 --> 01:05:48,185
you. Hi,

876
01:05:48,405 --> 01:05:52,245
everybody. My name's larry. Um, I was invited here one time

877
01:05:53,265 --> 01:05:56,955
to watch my friend carlos do a painting of armando

878
01:05:58,085 --> 01:06:02,045
regatta. Mm-hmm . And he told me a story. I'm like, who's this guy? And he, you know, I never got to meet him. And he

879
01:06:02,125 --> 01:06:05,965
told me, hey, well, you know, he passed away. But one of his, uh, visions was

880
01:06:06,165 --> 01:06:09,985
like, you know what? He wanted to beautify the city. And I'm like, man, I mean, you

881
01:06:10,205 --> 01:06:14,165
know, that's cool, man. That's too bad. He, you know, he passed away and he's like,

882
01:06:14,245 --> 01:06:18,245
you know what? Um, you know, we should carry that. You know, we should

883
01:06:18,405 --> 01:06:21,705
just, you know, make it a reality, not just let it, let it die. So

884
01:06:22,845 --> 01:06:26,805
I support that. I'm like, you know what? Let's, you know, I'm down with that. Let's, let's do it. Let's make it

885
01:06:26,925 --> 01:06:30,645
happen. Um, you know, and, and, and I explored that little

886
01:06:31,005 --> 01:06:34,625
area where they're doing the painting that's like, it's probably the

887
01:06:35,275 --> 01:06:39,195
loneliest part of nashville city, . Like, nobody goes over there. And I'm like, man, you know, it's, it's

888
01:06:39,485 --> 01:06:42,845
pretty, uh, it's pretty dead over there, , you know?

889
01:06:43,505 --> 01:06:47,135
and, and I'm like, but you know what? This is the perfect place. You know, it's perfect place.

890
01:06:49,645 --> 01:06:53,605
I don't know why, but, you know, whenever I go to other communities, I always compare, you know,

891
01:06:53,745 --> 01:06:57,725
uh, nashville city has that. They don't have it. You know, I don't know why I do that, but , I

892
01:06:57,845 --> 01:07:01,845
do that, you know, I do too. . And, um, and I'm like, man, we don't

893
01:07:02,005 --> 01:07:05,965
have an art district here. You know? I don't know what happened, you know? Um, I go to,

894
01:07:06,145 --> 01:07:10,125
uh, north park, they have a nice, you know, it's, and it, they just

895
01:07:10,285 --> 01:07:13,965
created it. Mm-hmm . And I'm like, you know what? Why can't we do that here? Mm-hmm . So,

896
01:07:14,705 --> 01:07:18,685
um, I hope, you know, we could start something and, and it's

897
01:07:18,925 --> 01:07:22,925
not gonna cost anybody. It's, it's a win-win. I think there's a lot of artists already in national

898
01:07:23,005 --> 01:07:27,005
city that, that wanna do something for their city and hopefully

899
01:07:28,085 --> 01:07:29,885
make it happen. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you.

900
01:07:35,175 --> 01:07:39,065
there. She's good evening mayor and council members. My name is angie micena.

901
01:07:39,545 --> 01:07:42,885
I'm here with logan heights community development corporation, or logan heights, cdc.

902
01:07:43,625 --> 01:07:47,395
and I'm really here to vouch for these artists and this

903
01:07:47,695 --> 01:07:51,635
event, the meeting of styles. Um, we have been working with some

904
01:07:51,925 --> 01:07:55,585
of these artists for about four years now, on a variety of murals

905
01:07:56,545 --> 01:08:00,445
in the logan heights community that have done all the things that you've been hearing

906
01:08:00,645 --> 01:08:03,715
about that have stopped graffiti and tagging

907
01:08:04,985 --> 01:08:08,825
in on public walls that have increased, you

908
01:08:09,045 --> 01:08:12,805
know, community pride in their neighborhood and really reflected the culture

909
01:08:13,185 --> 01:08:15,915
and the stories of the community and created placemaking.

910
01:08:17,305 --> 01:08:21,245
and that's exactly what these artists and community members are trying to do here

911
01:08:21,485 --> 01:08:25,445
in national city. Um, the meeting of styles event is a truly

912
01:08:25,715 --> 01:08:29,545
amazing collection of artists from all over the world coming together to

913
01:08:30,325 --> 01:08:33,605
beautify our communities and our streets and spaces.

914
01:08:34,745 --> 01:08:38,715
and, uh, for logan heights, cdc, we were able to, um, provide some,

915
01:08:39,155 --> 01:08:43,005
some wall space for these artists to put their art. And it has totally transformed the

916
01:08:43,205 --> 01:08:47,005
space. We get compliments on it. People like to take pictures in front of it.

917
01:08:47,505 --> 01:08:51,445
it just transforms a space and really gives folks a sense of

918
01:08:51,695 --> 01:08:55,665
pride in their community. And so, I highly encourage you to

919
01:08:56,035 --> 01:08:59,945
take advantage of this opportunity. Again, these are, these are artists who

920
01:09:00,165 --> 01:09:04,125
are donating their time and, um, they just need, they just

921
01:09:04,245 --> 01:09:07,545
need your support to do that. So I highly encourage you to vote. Vote in favor. Thanks.

922
01:09:08,295 --> 01:09:08,645
thank you.

923
01:09:14,655 --> 01:09:18,565
hello, city campbell. My name is carlos daniel es, also known

924
01:09:18,765 --> 01:09:20,535
as den lock. I'm a multi

925
01:09:23,425 --> 01:09:27,195
medium artist. I'm, I have murals from chula vista to oceanside,

926
01:09:27,955 --> 01:09:31,825
over 30 pieces at murals in chicano park in,

927
01:09:32,065 --> 01:09:35,525
uh, bald park. I'm also a board member of the bar law and planning committee.

928
01:09:36,505 --> 01:09:40,365
I'm a mural advisor for the love city heights committee, as well as I'm over there helping

929
01:09:40,785 --> 01:09:44,765
and fixing murals. And, um, I just, I wanted to come and talk to

930
01:09:44,885 --> 01:09:48,845
you about this, to help, to encourage you to support us with

931
01:09:49,125 --> 01:09:52,525
this, because events like this create artists like me,

932
01:09:53,425 --> 01:09:57,305
you know, create people that become successful and follow the dreams, you

933
01:09:57,525 --> 01:10:00,985
know? And, and I'm a good example of that, and I want to come here and

934
01:10:01,675 --> 01:10:05,625
keep that going. You know, when I was in high school and artists came and

935
01:10:05,845 --> 01:10:09,585
he planted a seed by painting a mural with me at 15 years old.

936
01:10:10,345 --> 01:10:14,165
and that developed to what I am now. So events like this

937
01:10:14,945 --> 01:10:17,805
can create more like this for all of us. Thank you.

938
01:10:21,025 --> 01:10:24,195
he painted armando, he painted armando's portrait. Okay.

939
01:10:25,235 --> 01:10:28,825
alright. Okay. Yep.

940
01:10:29,465 --> 01:10:33,065
hi, uh, mayor, uh, council members, uh, I'm george. I'm one of the artists here, and

941
01:10:33,535 --> 01:10:37,325
we've contributed a lot of art here. And, um, I

942
01:10:37,765 --> 01:10:41,405
actually love these things. I go to all over the country. We've, we've done these, we've been invited to different

943
01:10:42,165 --> 01:10:45,245
countries to do these things. Um, it's a good time.

944
01:10:46,265 --> 01:10:50,085
uh, and just to, just to be very concise about

945
01:10:50,365 --> 01:10:54,005
this, I think if you consider the cultural contribution

946
01:10:54,945 --> 01:10:58,875
and the graffiti abatement savings, and it's

947
01:10:59,165 --> 01:11:03,165
basically for the cost of some cones, we could probably come with the cones

948
01:11:03,485 --> 01:11:06,125
too. , you know,

949
01:11:07,725 --> 01:11:11,605
I know you guys are, are, you're always considering a lot of serious stuff and very

950
01:11:11,805 --> 01:11:15,525
important things. Right. This is a layup, this is an easy one. Mm-hmm . This is,

951
01:11:15,835 --> 01:11:19,685
this is a lot for nothing. So, you know, I,

952
01:11:19,925 --> 01:11:23,725
I strongly consider, uh, I want you guys to consider this and, and support us in this.

953
01:11:24,175 --> 01:11:24,975
thank you guys. Alright, great.

954
01:11:28,795 --> 01:11:32,405
good evening, uh, mayor and council members, thank you for allowing us the opportunity

955
01:11:33,025 --> 01:11:36,945
to speak. I am a volunteer for the vision culture foundation and

956
01:11:37,205 --> 01:11:41,125
a muralist as well. And I just wanted to say this is a great opportunity to build

957
01:11:41,325 --> 01:11:45,205
that culture of belonging here for national city. And I think that comes with

958
01:11:45,365 --> 01:11:49,325
care and accountability through arts. And I think, you know, through that support we can beautify

959
01:11:49,925 --> 01:11:53,685
the city. I make that commute every morning and when I see the public works

960
01:11:54,165 --> 01:11:58,165
building, I always tell, like everyone, like, this is something that I tell my coworkers about. This

961
01:11:58,445 --> 01:12:02,445
is something that makes their commute better. 'cause it's something for them to look at. So I

962
01:12:02,565 --> 01:12:06,235
hope that you consider this opportunity and support this class. Thank you. Alright,

963
01:12:07,185 --> 01:12:10,885
can you state your name for the workers? Jill and ramirez?

964
01:12:11,455 --> 01:12:14,955
thank you. Thank you. Alright. I think that was basically

965
01:12:15,565 --> 01:12:18,385
all of 'em that we had there. Um, okay, let me, uh,

966
01:12:20,125 --> 01:12:24,005
let me just make a couple quick observations and as a, the work you guys, don is

967
01:12:24,225 --> 01:12:27,735
great. One problem I have with it, it's getting lost

968
01:12:28,615 --> 01:12:31,905
with all that graffiti that's on the rest of those walls. You drive down through there,

969
01:12:32,855 --> 01:12:36,255
it's, your work is, gets kinda lost in the middle 'cause it's gorgeous work,

970
01:12:37,125 --> 01:12:40,655
but all that other garbage that's up there. And so I know we've talked about working

971
01:12:41,305 --> 01:12:45,145
together with mts, that as we're doing these things, getting, getting that cleaned

972
01:12:45,465 --> 01:12:49,345
off at least for the time being so that the people can say, hey, no, this is what we're doing. We're not doing

973
01:12:49,505 --> 01:12:53,345
that. We're doing this. 'cause you, what you guys do is great work. Uh, another

974
01:12:53,705 --> 01:12:57,305
thing is, a number of years ago we started to deal with whenever we were doing, uh, projects

975
01:12:57,865 --> 01:13:01,785
in the city and people were building stuff that we had to have them add a

976
01:13:02,055 --> 01:13:05,905
element of art to it. And so there's a lot of different things where there's

977
01:13:06,225 --> 01:13:10,105
been art pieces have been put to, uh, that goes along with the construction.

978
01:13:10,885 --> 01:13:14,865
one of 'em that was supposed to have been done that they didn't follow through on was

979
01:13:15,065 --> 01:13:18,585
southwestern college. 'cause they were supposed to put something out on the corner,

980
01:13:19,245 --> 01:13:23,025
uh, when they built that. 'cause the city put $20 million into that college,

981
01:13:23,505 --> 01:13:27,305
believe it or not. And they were supposed to put something out on the corner of eighth and

982
01:13:27,705 --> 01:13:31,305
national. The other thing they were doing, they were supposed to finish the parking

983
01:13:31,825 --> 01:13:34,665
structure instead of it just being a cinder block.

984
01:13:36,085 --> 01:13:39,295
and, uh, could you imagine the mural you could do there around education,

985
01:13:40,155 --> 01:13:43,285
everything else that would be seen from the freeway. So,

986
01:13:45,165 --> 01:13:48,915
uh, anyway, uh, but anyway, they are talking about doing some expansion right

987
01:13:49,265 --> 01:13:52,225
now in, in to work with the city on. So we might

988
01:13:53,535 --> 01:13:57,425
have a little bit of leverage with them. And, uh, so that, that might be something we might be able

989
01:13:57,545 --> 01:14:01,345
to talk about in the future. But anyway. Okay. We're gonna

990
01:14:01,555 --> 01:14:05,425
gonna go down, down the lines here. Uh, I believe mark. Okay. Okay. Go ahead. Thank

991
01:14:05,585 --> 01:14:09,485
you. Thank you so much to the speakers, the artists here today. Thank you, mr. James. Kim.

992
01:14:09,995 --> 01:14:13,985
thank you rj and the vision, culture foundation for being here today. Uh,

993
01:14:14,605 --> 01:14:18,465
absolutely. Uh, I love public art. I think it is so important. It

994
01:14:18,685 --> 01:14:22,665
especially brings a lot of community pride. Um, and I go by, uh,

995
01:14:22,885 --> 01:14:26,765
that area, you know, I think I heard one of the speakers say, it's such a lonely area. Well, I go

996
01:14:26,925 --> 01:14:30,525
by there. It's on, in the west side of national city, and I go to church at st. Anthony's.

997
01:14:31,145 --> 01:14:34,915
and every single sunday, I do see that mural, uh, and, uh, armando

998
01:14:35,755 --> 01:14:39,605
vera every single sunday. And it does, it fills my heart with pride. Thank

999
01:14:39,925 --> 01:14:43,885
you very much for the, the, the, just the reminder. You know,

1000
01:14:44,065 --> 01:14:48,045
it is a piece of pride, uh, in national city. So I'm very grateful for

1001
01:14:48,205 --> 01:14:52,205
that. And I do wanna give a, a very good shout out to my colleague here, marcus

1002
01:14:52,595 --> 01:14:56,565
bush. Uh, his, um, enthusiasm for this project

1003
01:14:57,075 --> 01:15:01,045
from the very beginning has been, uh, one of the reasons I think

1004
01:15:01,165 --> 01:15:05,085
that it exists. And I know that his work towards, uh, getting caltrans

1005
01:15:05,925 --> 01:15:09,785
involved in mts and, and just all of the red tape that has to, you

1006
01:15:10,005 --> 01:15:13,925
know, we have to, to work with. Um, I do wanna give a shout out to

1007
01:15:14,085 --> 01:15:17,975
marcus and all of the artists that have come out here to represent. Thank

1008
01:15:18,325 --> 01:15:19,925
you. I appreciate all the work. Thank you. Thank you,

1009
01:15:23,105 --> 01:15:26,865
marcus. Well, thank you luis, as a team effort. So,

1010
01:15:27,265 --> 01:15:31,225
uh, thank you luis for that. And so wanna thank just everyone, vision,

1011
01:15:31,645 --> 01:15:35,425
culture foundation. I wanna give a special shout to my council rep,

1012
01:15:35,665 --> 01:15:39,565
uh, daniel gonzalez, who's, uh, uh, really worked on this. Like, I couldn't

1013
01:15:39,765 --> 01:15:43,725
have done this without him, so I know he is listening. So shout out to him, especially

1014
01:15:44,245 --> 01:15:48,245
on this upcoming event. He's working on the permits and with our city staff. So I think this coming to

1015
01:15:48,405 --> 01:15:52,405
council in two weeks, the, uh, uh, tup, um, uh, for this

1016
01:15:52,615 --> 01:15:56,305
event. Um, but really, um, I want to thank him because, uh,

1017
01:15:56,755 --> 01:16:00,745
this was an initiative even though, you know, not in, uh, this is lucy's district, um, not

1018
01:16:00,965 --> 01:16:04,865
mine. But this is something that we put a lot of effort into because it benefits us

1019
01:16:05,165 --> 01:16:09,035
citywide. And you guys just touched on it, the budget. Uh, there's a better way more

1020
01:16:09,485 --> 01:16:13,125
efficient way to do things. So really appreciate the work that he's done on this.

1021
01:16:13,785 --> 01:16:17,695
um, and the other major person of this is james. Kim, a huge, uh, shout

1022
01:16:18,045 --> 01:16:21,685
out to him. So thank you, james, because you've been a graffiti tech

1023
01:16:22,105 --> 01:16:26,025
for, and working with the city for 17, 20, so

1024
01:16:26,245 --> 01:16:30,165
almost 20 years, right? Almost 20 years. And thank you for having

1025
01:16:30,345 --> 01:16:34,245
the courage and the bravery. Um, just when we were, me and daniel were, were talking and

1026
01:16:34,405 --> 01:16:38,205
going downstairs and just seeing how are things going. And you had the bravery to just tell

1027
01:16:38,445 --> 01:16:42,225
us and give me, and give us constructive feedback. This is the,

1028
01:16:42,495 --> 01:16:45,885
we've been doing for many years, especially along that 24th street corridor.

1029
01:16:46,595 --> 01:16:50,515
I'll go out there, I'll paint over it, and within 24 hours at times it's

1030
01:16:50,805 --> 01:16:54,725
tagged up again. And so, uh, you know, I thought it was gonna go a lot faster.

1031
01:16:55,125 --> 01:16:58,725
I thought it was gonna be, oh, two months, I could get this done. It's been like two years .

1032
01:16:59,225 --> 01:17:03,145
but it's taken a lot. It's been worth it. It's the labor of love, I think, for all of us. And

1033
01:17:03,365 --> 01:17:07,365
it wouldn't happen without my colleagues here on the dais, our city staff, our active city manager

1034
01:17:07,945 --> 01:17:11,715
and his team for, um, approving this and being flexible and innovative with

1035
01:17:12,235 --> 01:17:16,235
some of the different, um, logistical, uh, challenges like

1036
01:17:16,665 --> 01:17:20,355
the, the crane thing and just, just all of that. And, and, but the crux of this idea,

1037
01:17:20,785 --> 01:17:24,765
and it also came from our former city manager, armando vera. So it's just,

1038
01:17:24,845 --> 01:17:28,705
all of this is just so beautiful. And it's honestly, for me personally, it's one

1039
01:17:28,925 --> 01:17:32,675
of the, the best projects or the best things I feel like I I've

1040
01:17:32,965 --> 01:17:36,925
done here on city council other than the, the low rider thing. So just, you know, we, 'cause we

1041
01:17:37,005 --> 01:17:40,725
have budget, we have a lot of great stuff that I'm, I'm proud that we've done. Um, but this is just like

1042
01:17:41,965 --> 01:17:45,795
transformational and it's economic development. I think this, this,

1043
01:17:46,185 --> 01:17:49,965
um, uh, opportunity, um, coming up next month. It doesn't

1044
01:17:50,205 --> 01:17:54,105
happen often. And it's just like the stars are aligning and this is like free art.

1045
01:17:54,335 --> 01:17:58,285
we're getting good free. And I hope that we, as a city or chamber, I hope that those

1046
01:17:58,565 --> 01:18:02,315
artists that are coming, that we can encourage them to stay in our hotels and spend money here

1047
01:18:02,985 --> 01:18:06,775
and do little side events here and things that just, you know, um, bring

1048
01:18:07,125 --> 01:18:11,045
that attention. Attention. I think there's opportunity for us to, um, if we have

1049
01:18:11,205 --> 01:18:15,135
initiatives that staff have initiative, things that they're working on, whether it's our parks,

1050
01:18:15,485 --> 01:18:19,445
our library, you know, I don't, I don't even know. There's just so many opportunities. We have a, as a

1051
01:18:19,595 --> 01:18:23,505
city has, has to, um, really grow and expand on this. So,

1052
01:18:24,065 --> 01:18:27,605
um, and I really think vision, culture, um, you guys, your volunteers,

1053
01:18:28,275 --> 01:18:31,615
your staff, everyone really appreciate. Just, you're one of the best nonprofits

1054
01:18:32,425 --> 01:18:36,405
in the county, um, and one of the best profits in, uh, national state. We have some

1055
01:18:36,525 --> 01:18:39,885
great nonprofits. I, I I just, but what you guys do for mental health,

1056
01:18:40,865 --> 01:18:44,405
uh, for our youth, um, for teaching and being a, a community

1057
01:18:45,085 --> 01:18:48,965
activist space, I, I want our partnership to, uh, continue to grow

1058
01:18:49,545 --> 01:18:53,425
and just what you've brought to the table and how, uh, you do your events and

1059
01:18:53,665 --> 01:18:57,445
you're working on the maum, uh, project as well. And, and, uh, council

1060
01:18:57,725 --> 01:19:01,645
member rodriguez's district. And so I just, I just think you guys are doing a phenomenal job

1061
01:19:01,825 --> 01:19:05,785
and I want, um, continue to do that. Um, the may 2nd event, it

1062
01:19:06,005 --> 01:19:09,945
was, it was really good. It was really amazing. And, and we did like that we

1063
01:19:10,165 --> 01:19:14,165
were, we were coming off of like a eight hour like marathon on interviews. So we,

1064
01:19:14,325 --> 01:19:18,105
like we just said, we were behind on events, so not all of us could make it. Um, but

1065
01:19:18,625 --> 01:19:22,065
I'm really excited for this, for this potential event. Um,

1066
01:19:22,765 --> 01:19:26,565
a couple things just for city staff, I would ask the city manager.

1067
01:19:27,245 --> 01:19:31,205
I don't need an answer right now, unless you or your public works department does have

1068
01:19:31,365 --> 01:19:35,365
one. But for this future, um, for this meeting of styles event

1069
01:19:35,565 --> 01:19:39,355
in this two p on july 17th, I know we have, um, long

1070
01:19:39,645 --> 01:19:43,605
term a, um, a, a project, um, a bike, uh, active

1071
01:19:43,925 --> 01:19:47,645
transportation project that we've had a lot of previous back and forth discussions on

1072
01:19:48,115 --> 01:19:51,905
city council about design and all that. So, um, I, I'm

1073
01:19:52,125 --> 01:19:56,005
not trying to put you on the spot, but if your staff could check into just making

1074
01:19:56,205 --> 01:19:59,845
sure there's no, um, like conflicts or anything that was predetermined,

1075
01:20:00,865 --> 01:20:04,805
um, uh, with that, because we have caltrans permits that caltrans has been

1076
01:20:04,925 --> 01:20:08,635
great, we're working with them. Um, but I just wanna make sure, I think this, this fits

1077
01:20:09,115 --> 01:20:13,025
like perfectly and even is enhanced and I think improved what kind of we

1078
01:20:13,245 --> 01:20:16,845
had conceptually. And so I think this is consistent because there's no kind of infrastructure.

1079
01:20:17,435 --> 01:20:21,225
this is just paint. But, um, if, uh, you, your staff can

1080
01:20:21,445 --> 01:20:25,065
look into, uh, this or have any comments about that, um,

1081
01:20:25,585 --> 01:20:29,315
or feel free to chime in. Um, and then, um, just

1082
01:20:30,045 --> 01:20:34,005
response to, uh, the, uh, mayor and agree with what

1083
01:20:34,205 --> 01:20:38,115
he said, um, about the other buildings. We have a long-term plan

1084
01:20:38,405 --> 01:20:42,265
for those other buildings. So this first phase was the, uh,

1085
01:20:43,045 --> 01:20:46,965
catalyst and it was the easiest to implement because it's land and a

1086
01:20:47,165 --> 01:20:51,075
building that we at the city control. So now the next phase and challenges will

1087
01:20:51,365 --> 01:20:55,155
be drafting mous. I'm looking at you, city attorney, mous

1088
01:20:55,545 --> 01:20:59,485
and, uh, legal work. Uh, because the other part of this is, um, this is

1089
01:20:59,565 --> 01:21:03,565
private property that is tagged and they do have a responsibility. And I appreciate you,

1090
01:21:03,645 --> 01:21:07,625
james, in one of the meetings you like told them, you just laid it out like it is, like, hey, this is us

1091
01:21:07,865 --> 01:21:11,795
as public subsidizing your private operations in your graffiti and it needs to stop.

1092
01:21:12,145 --> 01:21:16,005
and so willing to work with them. But those are the next phases of this.

1093
01:21:16,465 --> 01:21:20,165
and, uh, we don't have a set budget or anything for it. So this is

1094
01:21:20,485 --> 01:21:24,445
a future work that I think we need to do to, for that to implement. And you guys

1095
01:21:25,085 --> 01:21:29,005
provided us some concepts. So there's more work that needs to be done. I will say we do have

1096
01:21:29,165 --> 01:21:32,715
the money for a project like that. It could come out of our economic contingency reserve

1097
01:21:33,205 --> 01:21:36,445
that, uh, the unspent funds from last year. So we could talk more about that.

1098
01:21:37,505 --> 01:21:41,445
um, and then the opportunity, I appreciate the mayor's idea of the opportunity for southwestern college because

1099
01:21:42,155 --> 01:21:45,945
that garage that's, it's prominent and I didn't realize that that was part of, uh,

1100
01:21:46,685 --> 01:21:50,565
mou that they, the southwestern college didn't follow through on. So that's another

1101
01:21:50,725 --> 01:21:54,645
opportunity 'cause that's an ugly parking garage. And that's something that's an entrance to the city and we just

1102
01:21:54,765 --> 01:21:58,685
need to take better care of our, our city's image. Um, I personally

1103
01:21:59,085 --> 01:22:02,885
don't care when people call it nasty city. I really don't because those are the kind of people that

1104
01:22:03,125 --> 01:22:06,985
personally I don't care that are coming here, right? Like, so, but we

1105
01:22:07,235 --> 01:22:11,165
also want to shed some of the negativity and, and the ugliness

1106
01:22:11,445 --> 01:22:15,445
at the same time, or at least like, redefine it and transform it. Um, and embrace like kinda what

1107
01:22:15,605 --> 01:22:18,965
you guys are talking about, em, embrace our, our urban culture and embrace

1108
01:22:19,675 --> 01:22:23,385
like our, our people that are stereotyped and like graffiti are the,

1109
01:22:23,785 --> 01:22:27,645
the graffiti, the murals. Like, there's a bigger, deeper cultural story that's really beautiful

1110
01:22:28,005 --> 01:22:31,965
to that. So that's why I love what you guys are doing. I, I really appreciate it and I, I

1111
01:22:32,085 --> 01:22:36,005
think we can really get this done. This is economic development too, so I really appreciate you guys.

1112
01:22:36,175 --> 01:22:39,565
thank you. Thank you. Oh, last thing, last thing, james, on, on, uh, just on james,

1113
01:22:40,265 --> 01:22:44,105
if you continue to to work with our staff and coordinate, um,

1114
01:22:44,705 --> 01:22:48,305
uh, on this and in particularly for like in the, uh,

1115
01:22:48,825 --> 01:22:52,595
budget longer term, not, not for like this particular discussion, but at least like

1116
01:22:53,305 --> 01:22:56,805
for the next, uh, few weeks. But I really appreciate the leadership.

1117
01:22:57,345 --> 01:23:01,285
you're, you as a tech. I haven't seen a city employee

1118
01:23:01,475 --> 01:23:05,325
that isn't in a manager and leader position. I have not seen an employee do the level of work that

1119
01:23:05,605 --> 01:23:09,445
you did in front of the bottom of my heart. I just wanna give you a big shout at and thank you. 'cause this project would not have happened without

1120
01:23:09,685 --> 01:23:10,245
you. Thank you.

1121
01:23:13,955 --> 01:23:17,725
okay, member rodriguez. Thank you mr. Mayor. I echo the sentiments of my colleagues

1122
01:23:18,165 --> 01:23:21,175
and really want to commend the effort of all volunteers, uh, staff,

1123
01:23:22,185 --> 01:23:25,845
uh, vision culture foundation, as well as other nonprofits that are involved in the process.

1124
01:23:26,585 --> 01:23:30,405
uh, council member bush, thank you so much for leading the effort and daniel as well for helping

1125
01:23:30,605 --> 01:23:34,565
make this happen. I mean, I know, I know we all, um, know this

1126
01:23:34,905 --> 01:23:38,805
to be true. Art is, uh, is an expression of our history, of our collective history.

1127
01:23:39,705 --> 01:23:43,305
and, and it is, um, it's critical that we continue to support that and

1128
01:23:43,805 --> 01:23:47,805
demonstrate that at every phase of our city and anywhere we possibly

1129
01:23:48,005 --> 01:23:51,885
can. And so there's so many beautiful murals, but there's so much more and so many more opportunities.

1130
01:23:52,505 --> 01:23:56,365
and so you certainly have my support and that of our council office on, on, uh,

1131
01:23:56,525 --> 01:24:00,485
partnering with, with continuing to expand mural space within our city and within our

1132
01:24:01,005 --> 01:24:05,005
district. I think it's imperative in order to display our history and not allow our history

1133
01:24:05,285 --> 01:24:08,845
to be written by others. And so thank you so much. Really appreciate all your help. Thank you.

1134
01:24:13,815 --> 01:24:17,705
thank you mayor. Um, vision, culture foundation. I'm

1135
01:24:18,075 --> 01:24:21,985
awed by the, by the work that you do for our community. Thank you so

1136
01:24:22,205 --> 01:24:25,715
much. Thank you. Uh, you have a big support here. Okay.

1137
01:24:29,455 --> 01:24:32,005
thank you all very much. Thank you guys. Thank you you for hearing us.

1138
01:24:33,535 --> 01:24:37,515
thank you guys. Alright,

1139
01:24:39,635 --> 01:24:42,845
next we go into here. Sorry, can we take a picture with them? Is that okay?

1140
01:24:43,785 --> 01:24:47,685
uh, if we can get 'em all back up here. Yeah. Can you guys, do you guys mind all coming back up so we can get a

1141
01:24:47,805 --> 01:24:48,805
picture? Oh, sure.

1142
01:24:54,835 --> 01:24:57,505
thank you. It was a good idea. . Sorry, I forgot. Sorry.

1143
01:25:00,725 --> 01:25:04,615
come on. Okay. Yep. Uh, yep. Stay on that side of the podium or otherwise

1144
01:25:04,915 --> 01:25:07,535
on this, on this side. You all get blocked out. Thank you.

1145
01:25:12,565 --> 01:25:14,295
oh, a couple extra trouble makers in there. Okay.

1146
01:25:26,925 --> 01:25:29,565
alright. Thank you. Yeah.

1147
01:25:30,995 --> 01:25:33,015
yo, I was waiting for the threat .

1148
01:25:36,115 --> 01:25:38,765
oh, just really quick guys, that the mic culture, mike.

1149
01:25:41,155 --> 01:25:45,095
oh, vision culture just came up with the great idea. Uh, I know the

1150
01:25:45,255 --> 01:25:48,855
passing of mike mejia. I've been working and talking to the fire guys here

1151
01:25:49,555 --> 01:25:53,095
and that's something, they came outta heart. They said, you know what? Anything for our first responders,

1152
01:25:53,695 --> 01:25:57,395
they'd be more glad to put a mural somewhere in nashville city of honor of mike bia.

1153
01:25:57,835 --> 01:26:01,565
that's another thing that they're willing to do and, uh, to our community. Love

1154
01:26:01,855 --> 01:26:05,725
it. So just putting it out there as that. Well, thank you james. Love it. And james, since you brought up

1155
01:26:05,885 --> 01:26:09,745
something, last thing I forgot to tell you, um, there was a question, um, on

1156
01:26:09,985 --> 01:26:13,845
budget and what, um, the return on the investment is and kind of the,

1157
01:26:14,105 --> 01:26:17,945
uh, improved, uh, cost estimation for this. So this is, uh, for you, james. So if we can get that, and

1158
01:26:18,445 --> 01:26:22,405
actually I'll say it mr. Edt though. And so, um, and I'm sure he doesn't mind

1159
01:26:22,595 --> 01:26:26,585
just that, uh, that I disclosed that. So if we can get, uh, some of the

1160
01:26:26,805 --> 01:26:30,705
numbers, I think we already have an estimate and, um, and I think it just, uh,

1161
01:26:30,925 --> 01:26:34,765
needs a little bit of, uh, refinement. And you can go ahead and talk to mr. Nieto

1162
01:26:35,005 --> 01:26:38,835
for some of the details he was working on. But the, this, we did do high

1163
01:26:39,125 --> 01:26:43,045
level analysis and this was proven, this concept to save money. So I just, uh,

1164
01:26:43,265 --> 01:26:46,885
but getting those numbers I think is, is good. Okay. Thank you. Alright.

1165
01:26:47,985 --> 01:26:51,725
um, before we go into consent count, we also have, uh, regional boards

1166
01:26:52,125 --> 01:26:55,995
and committee reports. Start down here. Nothing

1167
01:26:56,485 --> 01:27:00,285
to report mayor. Okay. Um, no report, mr. Mayor.

1168
01:27:00,675 --> 01:27:04,395
okay. Down

1169
01:27:04,685 --> 01:27:08,625
here with, uh, mr. Bush. Yes. So a report on air

1170
01:27:08,845 --> 01:27:12,845
pollution control district, and also wanted to, uh, respond to the, uh, public comments

1171
01:27:12,925 --> 01:27:16,505
about that, which I appreciate. So I want to thank, uh, mr.

1172
01:27:17,545 --> 01:27:21,425
ock and, uh, ms. Quinone, and especially, particularly ms. Quinone because, uh, ms.

1173
01:27:21,845 --> 01:27:25,445
quinone, you did come to our epc board meetings and you've been,

1174
01:27:25,985 --> 01:27:29,965
uh, uh, an advocate about our delayed, uh, pair program and asking those

1175
01:27:30,325 --> 01:27:34,325
questions. So I really appreciate the, um, engagement despite some of my, uh, disagreements on

1176
01:27:34,485 --> 01:27:38,265
policy, which I'm happy to, uh, sort of give high level update on. And,

1177
01:27:38,545 --> 01:27:42,305
you know, we can have follow up conversations on the dais and outside. Um, so

1178
01:27:42,625 --> 01:27:46,445
the, um, indirect source rule was, uh, an item that I've updated kept our,

1179
01:27:46,665 --> 01:27:50,205
uh, council updated on it. Uh, absolutely was a difficult,

1180
01:27:50,705 --> 01:27:54,475
uh, decision and tough for all of us. But I want to do, uh, point out some

1181
01:27:54,765 --> 01:27:58,515
things, not just, uh, from the staff report, but also,

1182
01:27:59,425 --> 01:28:03,055
um, in the response to the, uh, the email

1183
01:28:03,435 --> 01:28:07,405
that you all sent. Um, because there is some facts that I think

1184
01:28:07,525 --> 01:28:10,665
need to be stated in and corrected. Um, so,

1185
01:28:11,745 --> 01:28:15,095
uh, in terms of the, um, the email,

1186
01:28:16,065 --> 01:28:19,625
so one of, so, uh, it was the may 14th, uh,

1187
01:28:20,705 --> 01:28:23,855
uh, uh, board agenda meeting, uh, where

1188
01:28:24,825 --> 01:28:28,425
we took up the indirect source role. And one of the most important things, I think this letter, uh,

1189
01:28:30,425 --> 01:28:34,365
uh, mrs. Is, um, and it, and it states

1190
01:28:34,625 --> 01:28:38,485
at the board meeting that I voted against a motion introduced by fellow board member,

1191
01:28:39,005 --> 01:28:42,865
district supervisor, olo mere, actually do think for the record, it was introduced by, um,

1192
01:28:43,105 --> 01:28:46,885
our chair, berkeley garcia. Um, but, um, but a gire was,

1193
01:28:47,225 --> 01:28:51,065
uh, supportive directing a-p-c-d-a-p-c-d staff to do,

1194
01:28:51,585 --> 01:28:55,565
to begin drafting an indirect source rule. This rule has been studied

1195
01:28:56,025 --> 01:28:59,985
by epcd staff for four years and would be a first step in

1196
01:29:00,205 --> 01:29:04,105
a new program to limit emissions from trucks at warehouses. Now, the, now

1197
01:29:04,325 --> 01:29:08,105
the key part that, that, that statement that that email misses

1198
01:29:08,825 --> 01:29:12,795
is that it was the staff, our a pcd staff that recommended against

1199
01:29:13,285 --> 01:29:16,945
moving forward with an indirect source rule. So, um, part of,

1200
01:29:17,585 --> 01:29:21,315
uh, well, part of it, I I will say for our a pcd staff, they

1201
01:29:21,605 --> 01:29:25,305
are the most, um, uh, I think progressive pro-environmental

1202
01:29:26,165 --> 01:29:29,885
justice, uh, staff of any, uh, public agency staff

1203
01:29:30,385 --> 01:29:34,205
in the county. Um, and they have been very proactive on protecting health,

1204
01:29:34,625 --> 01:29:38,565
on getting data research. So they've been studying this for

1205
01:29:38,685 --> 01:29:42,165
four years, and in this staff report in the research,

1206
01:29:43,185 --> 01:29:47,065
uh, they, they're based on their research, this was not

1207
01:29:47,345 --> 01:29:51,005
the best route to go in, in direct source rule. And these are the reasons

1208
01:29:51,665 --> 01:29:55,665
why that I'll read some of these here. So

1209
01:29:56,265 --> 01:30:00,065
the, uh, part of this was here, let me get my notes and

1210
01:30:00,285 --> 01:30:01,245
read directly from the report.

1211
01:30:11,745 --> 01:30:15,415
uh, let's see. Sorry

1212
01:30:15,765 --> 01:30:19,065
guys, I lost where I was on the report, so I'm pulling this back up on my laptop.

1213
01:30:28,185 --> 01:30:32,175
alright, here we go. So the vote was, uh, five four. It

1214
01:30:32,395 --> 01:30:36,365
was, uh, a member gloria bailey, koval, board member, member fitzgerald

1215
01:30:37,055 --> 01:30:40,775
and myself in support of the staff recommendation, which was to

1216
01:30:41,225 --> 01:30:45,155
move forward with incentives and not to kill the rule, but to delay it.

1217
01:30:45,275 --> 01:30:49,095
and the delay was due to the legal risk was

1218
01:30:49,615 --> 01:30:53,515
due to the, and I'll read it right here. The estimated emission reductions from a

1219
01:30:53,635 --> 01:30:57,585
potential warehouse isr in san diego are projected to be significantly less

1220
01:30:58,185 --> 01:31:02,155
than the reductions anticipated from other rulemaking. So it was the cost, and, and

1221
01:31:02,315 --> 01:31:06,255
there's a whole, uh, set of bullet points. Uh, I don't wanna, uh, read, um, and

1222
01:31:06,475 --> 01:31:10,075
just in sake of, uh, public time. But it was the cost effectiveness, the compliance

1223
01:31:10,785 --> 01:31:14,195
cost, uh, the fact that the emission reductions were significantly

1224
01:31:14,825 --> 01:31:18,795
less. So staff researched this, and after the research they did,

1225
01:31:18,955 --> 01:31:22,315
this rule was not determined to be effective. And staff is an independent body

1226
01:31:23,275 --> 01:31:27,135
industry, of course, did support that. But industries, um,

1227
01:31:27,885 --> 01:31:31,755
their position besides, you know, the facts, I'm not going

1228
01:31:31,955 --> 01:31:35,675
to support industry. I'm gonna support the community and the decades

1229
01:31:36,175 --> 01:31:40,115
of, uh, pollution of, uh, health impacts that we've had. But this wasn't the best

1230
01:31:40,555 --> 01:31:44,435
approach, in my opinion. It was the legal risk. This rule has been overturned in other

1231
01:31:44,715 --> 01:31:48,515
areas. These are facts. This rule has been overturned in other areas. So there's

1232
01:31:48,755 --> 01:31:52,475
a legal risk, especially with the state and the federal courts and how they're made up.

1233
01:31:52,975 --> 01:31:56,815
so spending this amount of money, and then it would be two to three years to

1234
01:31:57,315 --> 01:32:01,285
actually be implemented. And yes, there was a lot of public comment, which I appreciate

1235
01:32:01,565 --> 01:32:05,505
all the public testimony, uh, uh, in favor of a rule. But

1236
01:32:05,725 --> 01:32:09,105
what the public comments all said is, we need action. We need help now.

1237
01:32:09,865 --> 01:32:13,765
so I'm not gonna promise the public that we're gonna do something that's gonna be

1238
01:32:13,885 --> 01:32:17,765
two to three years maybe in the making that's expensive and that our staff is telling us

1239
01:32:18,265 --> 01:32:22,195
is not the most effective approach or tool. So it's not that it's,

1240
01:32:22,585 --> 01:32:26,405
uh, gonna be killed forever. It's, it's paused right now. I offered

1241
01:32:26,725 --> 01:32:30,335
some ideas of solutions that can happen to, um, not today,

1242
01:32:30,865 --> 01:32:34,845
uh, but that can happen very short term as in the next few months. And a lot of that is based

1243
01:32:35,045 --> 01:32:38,785
on what's already existing. It's our pair program, it's our air filter. And

1244
01:32:39,115 --> 01:32:42,855
what I wasn't going to do was, uh, and I've done this before where

1245
01:32:43,215 --> 01:32:46,955
staff recommended, uh, specifically with the tijuana sewage river crisis, recommended

1246
01:32:47,675 --> 01:32:51,645
that we on the board, that we not push them into, uh, creating a new program,

1247
01:32:52,385 --> 01:32:56,245
um, addressing this because it, uh, it is a water quality issue. They

1248
01:32:56,505 --> 01:33:00,245
argued it not an air quality issue, but we still did what

1249
01:33:00,645 --> 01:33:04,205
I, I think was all right. And we, uh, directed staff against their recommendation

1250
01:33:04,905 --> 01:33:08,865
to still pursue this. And that was very helpful to getting solutions to

1251
01:33:09,085 --> 01:33:13,085
the tijuana river, uh, sewage crisis and getting air filters to those people.

1252
01:33:13,205 --> 01:33:16,685
that was helpful. But I disclosed it in this, uh, previous meetings that

1253
01:33:17,245 --> 01:33:20,885
actually ended up being negatively impactful to national city. We ended up spreading

1254
01:33:21,425 --> 01:33:25,005
our resources to thin at a pcd. So the pair program,

1255
01:33:26,145 --> 01:33:29,885
uh, which was for air monitors and air filters to be distributed here in

1256
01:33:30,285 --> 01:33:34,245
national city, got delayed and has been delayed for over a year and a half. And the staff did report

1257
01:33:34,565 --> 01:33:38,465
that. Part of that was because we started a new program. So, uh, national city's

1258
01:33:38,885 --> 01:33:42,645
already, uh, been delayed in some of what I think the resources,

1259
01:33:43,225 --> 01:33:47,125
the opportunities to address these issues. So I'm not gonna just, you know, rules

1260
01:33:47,435 --> 01:33:51,385
make us feel good regulations. Sometimes they're, they're good for, um,

1261
01:33:52,065 --> 01:33:55,945
uh, for doing press releases and saying, oh yeah, we did something, but

1262
01:33:56,445 --> 01:34:00,385
I don't think that this was going to do, um, what it, what we,

1263
01:34:00,755 --> 01:34:04,585
what we hope to do. And in fact, the staff analysis did say that if

1264
01:34:04,805 --> 01:34:08,805
this rule even did survive legal challenge, even after all the money that we spend

1265
01:34:09,045 --> 01:34:12,985
on it, they would average an estimated, um, six,

1266
01:34:13,585 --> 01:34:17,185
uh, six people. Their health would improve six

1267
01:34:17,745 --> 01:34:21,565
per year. And not just in national city, but in what's called the port side

1268
01:34:21,805 --> 01:34:25,625
communities. That is a fact. That is in the report. There's a lot of other data in

1269
01:34:25,845 --> 01:34:29,625
the report. There is opportunities, and I'm open to changing my

1270
01:34:30,005 --> 01:34:33,845
position on this. So I would, um, be definitely open to, uh, planning,

1271
01:34:34,265 --> 01:34:38,235
uh, commission, uh, discussion about it, having epcd, uh, uh, come,

1272
01:34:38,595 --> 01:34:42,165
come here. Um, but I am interested in doing something now and doing something

1273
01:34:42,605 --> 01:34:46,585
with, uh, air filters and getting our air monitors, uh, on track. So

1274
01:34:46,805 --> 01:34:50,385
this isn't over, but, and I encourage, uh, continued discussion, but just wanted to,

1275
01:34:50,905 --> 01:34:54,905
uh, give an, uh, comprehensive update about that, and then hopefully we

1276
01:34:55,125 --> 01:34:59,085
can yeah. Move, uh, move, uh, forward more. Last thing I'll say

1277
01:34:59,225 --> 01:35:03,025
on the email, this references, uh, aguire about three or

1278
01:35:03,245 --> 01:35:07,185
four times. It feels very political. This letter aguire was

1279
01:35:07,425 --> 01:35:11,305
not the only one that supported this. So there's more if, if the, if

1280
01:35:11,525 --> 01:35:15,415
the goldie ask in this email is to have our city council think, think

1281
01:35:15,925 --> 01:35:19,835
a pcd, then we should think if, if that's the council's decision, then

1282
01:35:20,145 --> 01:35:24,125
we should think more than just one supervisor. We, we should thank everyone if that's

1283
01:35:24,365 --> 01:35:28,285
the role, if that's what the council wanted to do. So that's my updates for ap

1284
01:35:28,405 --> 01:35:32,365
pcd. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. Uh, thank you. I will be attending the

1285
01:35:32,585 --> 01:35:36,485
sandag audit committee meeting this friday. Those are all the updates I have. Thank you.

1286
01:35:37,195 --> 01:35:40,925
okay. Uh, just real quickly, uh, a couple things. We had

1287
01:35:41,205 --> 01:35:45,205
a meeting yesterday on the budget committee for, uh, risa and taking a

1288
01:35:45,325 --> 01:35:49,245
look at, uh, for the next two years, uh, national city will

1289
01:35:49,845 --> 01:35:53,765
continue to get our, uh, there's an extra amount of money that we get

1290
01:35:53,925 --> 01:35:57,405
that the other cities don't get for the simple reason. When we formed risa,

1291
01:35:58,225 --> 01:36:01,865
um, our rates were the lowest in the county, so

1292
01:36:03,285 --> 01:36:06,875
edco wouldn't go any lower. But what they did do, they dropped the north county rates down,

1293
01:36:08,105 --> 01:36:12,045
so we didn't get anything directly out of it. So as a result,

1294
01:36:12,465 --> 01:36:16,285
the other cities pay us an amount of money, so we get paid because

1295
01:36:16,705 --> 01:36:20,415
we helped get their rates lower. And so that is, uh, continuing.

1296
01:36:21,085 --> 01:36:25,045
we've had a couple times we get new board members, they can't figure out why our city, these are

1297
01:36:25,435 --> 01:36:29,335
ones from north county, and they can't figure out why our city is getting a rebate on stuff.

1298
01:36:30,105 --> 01:36:33,965
and then when we have to explain to 'em the reason your rates are so lower

1299
01:36:34,585 --> 01:36:38,065
is because of what we, we put into this project. So, um,

1300
01:36:38,665 --> 01:36:41,705
so that was good. The other thing is we're turning over the treasurer, um,

1301
01:36:42,865 --> 01:36:46,705
uh, national city has been the treasurer for risk for the last five years, and

1302
01:36:46,945 --> 01:36:50,425
now is another city's turn. So we rotated among the city. So,

1303
01:36:51,025 --> 01:36:54,845
um, and we had been paid each year to, for the cost that it cost us to do

1304
01:36:55,315 --> 01:36:59,305
both the, uh, uh, the treasury work and also on the audit. And

1305
01:36:59,585 --> 01:37:03,445
so, um, uh, so, but I say, but it's another city's turn now

1306
01:37:03,645 --> 01:37:07,425
for doing on that one. Uh, one other thing is we had the planning meeting of, of,

1307
01:37:07,665 --> 01:37:11,565
uh, sandag this last week. And, uh, the discussion was on housing

1308
01:37:12,025 --> 01:37:16,005
the arena numbers and, uh, let's just say

1309
01:37:16,165 --> 01:37:19,925
lively discussion. And, and it was, it was interesting,

1310
01:37:20,305 --> 01:37:24,005
um, different cities, viewpoints and some people, some cities

1311
01:37:25,035 --> 01:37:28,985
that have almost no arena numbers, which is the housing, uh,

1312
01:37:29,205 --> 01:37:32,265
numbers that, that are assigned to the cities. And, uh,

1313
01:37:34,075 --> 01:37:37,525
they were just crying the blues. You would not believe how much they were just crying the blues.

1314
01:37:38,145 --> 01:37:41,865
and then when we mentioned what our numbers were, they, they shut up. But, uh,

1315
01:37:42,545 --> 01:37:46,285
so it's, uh, um, anyway, but that, that's the debate that's

1316
01:37:46,565 --> 01:37:49,925
gonna be going on heavier in the next few years as we enter into the next eight year cycle.

1317
01:37:50,665 --> 01:37:54,225
uh, that's the only two things that I have to report at this, at this time. Um,

1318
01:37:55,275 --> 01:37:58,395
next we go on to consent calendars. Uh, this is nine

1319
01:37:59,545 --> 01:38:02,155
one through nine 16.

1320
01:38:04,115 --> 01:38:07,905
16, yes. Nine 16. I have request to

1321
01:38:08,155 --> 01:38:11,175
pull, uh, item 7, 8, 11, 15,

1322
01:38:15,265 --> 01:38:18,875
and 16. Mayor, I'd like to request to pull item nine

1323
01:38:19,385 --> 01:38:22,515
10 and nine 12, please. You said 9 10, 9 10

1324
01:38:23,965 --> 01:38:27,125
and nine 12. And nine 12. Thank you.

1325
01:38:28,915 --> 01:38:28,915
okay.

1326
01:38:33,705 --> 01:38:37,435
all right. Anything else? Just comment on nine, 9.9,

1327
01:38:38,205 --> 01:38:39,955
mayor. Okay. Just comment. Okay.

1328
01:38:43,605 --> 01:38:47,305
I, and I have, um, a, uh, motion for

1329
01:38:48,035 --> 01:38:51,805
9.6, a different one. So, or just, just some

1330
01:38:52,925 --> 01:38:56,845
addition. I'm sorry, what? Now? I have an addition, a

1331
01:38:56,965 --> 01:39:00,955
motion I wanna make for 9.6. Do you want both? Just I can pull it. Yeah, let's pull it. Okay.

1332
01:39:02,315 --> 01:39:05,965
alright. Alright. Uh, anything else?

1333
01:39:06,835 --> 01:39:09,045
okay, then we have a motion for the remainder of the calendar.

1334
01:39:11,065 --> 01:39:14,285
so move, mr. Mayor. Okay. We have a motion? Do I have a second?

1335
01:39:15,385 --> 01:39:17,925
second. Okay. We have a motion and a second.

1336
01:39:19,465 --> 01:39:23,045
we have no other discussion. Please vote for the remainder of the calendar.

1337
01:39:24,185 --> 01:39:27,845
motion. Prove unanimously. Okay. First we go with, uh, nine six. This

1338
01:39:28,325 --> 01:39:30,485
is the annual military equipment use report.

1339
01:39:33,465 --> 01:39:37,445
and I believe that was member rodriguez, was it?

1340
01:39:37,825 --> 01:39:41,805
oh, no, no, I'm sorry. Member bush. Yeah. So my, and I asked this in briefing, so I wasn't sure

1341
01:39:41,925 --> 01:39:45,705
if we had an answer yet, but if not, that's okay. So, um, uh,

1342
01:39:45,945 --> 01:39:49,745
the last council meeting, we directed this, uh, to go to the,

1343
01:39:50,305 --> 01:39:54,145
um, cprc, which they did, they reviewed it. So thank you to

1344
01:39:54,365 --> 01:39:58,305
staff for presenting that. My problem was that there was not,

1345
01:39:58,665 --> 01:40:02,405
in terms of their attachments, only the powerpoint was included. None of the background attachments

1346
01:40:02,885 --> 01:40:06,745
that we were, um, provided, um, on the

1347
01:40:06,965 --> 01:40:10,785
city council, including the list of the weapons and the staff report and all out

1348
01:40:11,005 --> 01:40:14,525
of that. So, uh, my question was why that wasn't, uh, included

1349
01:40:15,145 --> 01:40:17,605
in the, in the original, like, what, what happened there?

1350
01:40:22,295 --> 01:40:25,565
thank you. Council member bush, chris sullivan, uh, captain once again.

1351
01:40:26,705 --> 01:40:30,565
so when we were asked to present to the cprc, that's what we had

1352
01:40:30,765 --> 01:40:34,065
done. And obviously trying to, uh,

1353
01:40:35,115 --> 01:40:39,065
present to counsel on the first go round. Um, and

1354
01:40:39,285 --> 01:40:43,185
it was pushed. So we can do that provided us more, uh,

1355
01:40:44,575 --> 01:40:47,725
engagement into, uh, community members of the cprc.

1356
01:40:49,385 --> 01:40:53,325
the reason that we have the presentation is to try

1357
01:40:53,525 --> 01:40:57,225
to present to them, one of the options that we can do is

1358
01:40:57,555 --> 01:41:01,405
provide all of the materials in the, in the book to them,

1359
01:41:01,835 --> 01:41:05,465
into the future. Great. Um,

1360
01:41:06,395 --> 01:41:08,405
okay. So, um, so then

1361
01:41:10,805 --> 01:41:14,335
I, so then staff just made a decision not to just, they, uh, to abbreviate

1362
01:41:15,105 --> 01:41:18,725
is, is that why, to abbreviate what was given to the cprc?

1363
01:41:19,905 --> 01:41:22,725
um, what was given already provided to city council?

1364
01:41:24,995 --> 01:41:28,695
when we present in the manner of like a, a, of a powerpoint,

1365
01:41:30,185 --> 01:41:34,065
if you're asking why, or is it possible that we can give them the

1366
01:41:34,345 --> 01:41:38,345
entire report itself at that time? Yes, we

1367
01:41:38,585 --> 01:41:42,485
can do that. Uh, right. Well, that, yes, and that

1368
01:41:42,605 --> 01:41:45,725
technically wasn't my question. My question was why they weren't

1369
01:41:46,885 --> 01:41:50,705
provided the full report and information that we and counsel was

1370
01:41:50,925 --> 01:41:54,645
given were given, I believe at that time

1371
01:41:54,945 --> 01:41:58,525
it was trying to get to that presentation to them,

1372
01:41:59,465 --> 01:42:03,285
and we just provided them the actual presentation, which is a modified

1373
01:42:03,485 --> 01:42:07,405
version, which has all the information that we do have in the report, just not the

1374
01:42:07,725 --> 01:42:11,645
extended version of it. Okay. I appreciate that. Um, well, I

1375
01:42:11,765 --> 01:42:15,465
just, I mean, I'm ready to make a motion. They, um, they had their input, um,

1376
01:42:16,185 --> 01:42:20,165
and, uh, I did listen to, uh, that meeting and talk to some,

1377
01:42:20,545 --> 01:42:24,025
uh, to our city staff about some of the ways I think the commission could, um,

1378
01:42:25,525 --> 01:42:29,155
I guess be more productive in tone and just it be a little more productive and less,

1379
01:42:29,585 --> 01:42:33,205
uh, maybe accusatory, which I'm, you know, comfortable with that. But in the future,

1380
01:42:33,645 --> 01:42:36,665
I, I do believe that, um, our

1381
01:42:37,805 --> 01:42:41,605
anything that our, um, oversight boards, our,

1382
01:42:41,825 --> 01:42:45,825
our, our citizens committees, I think they should have as much information as

1383
01:42:46,285 --> 01:42:50,185
possible in the spirit of transparency, accountability, openness, and getting that as, as

1384
01:42:50,645 --> 01:42:54,285
advanced and possible. So it sounds like this was just kind of an oversight, and I'm okay with that.

1385
01:42:54,985 --> 01:42:58,965
um, but, uh, you know, moving forward, I, I would like, um, and this,

1386
01:42:59,425 --> 01:43:03,405
uh, this has come up before last year, so, so moving forward, I would like

1387
01:43:03,705 --> 01:43:07,405
our cprc, or for that matter, any commission that is reviewing

1388
01:43:07,845 --> 01:43:11,725
something to get all of the information and all the materials, uh, the background because it is

1389
01:43:11,885 --> 01:43:15,765
public, and then it, it, you know, it, it might, it will result in a little more work

1390
01:43:16,065 --> 01:43:19,765
on our part in the city, but I think it's gonna build more trust and then allow a better understanding

1391
01:43:20,475 --> 01:43:24,025
back and forth and for us to make, um, improved, uh,

1392
01:43:24,485 --> 01:43:28,265
decision making on, on the budget earlier so that we all have the

1393
01:43:28,725 --> 01:43:32,605
capacity to make decisions, okay? Uh, the, you know, the military grade equipment,

1394
01:43:33,265 --> 01:43:37,165
do we need this particular piece of equipment that is expensive at the, is there a

1395
01:43:37,285 --> 01:43:41,285
cheaper way to do this to achieve the public safety goals that we need? And then you all have an opportunity,

1396
01:43:41,625 --> 01:43:45,485
hey, this is a scenario where we need this and this is the risk analysis and

1397
01:43:45,645 --> 01:43:49,425
all that. So that's like for me just to better explain what the intent of that would be. So,

1398
01:43:49,665 --> 01:43:53,605
but I'm, I'm supportive. I, uh, and I'll, I'll make a motion to support this

1399
01:43:53,845 --> 01:43:57,565
item and would, uh, direct staff to when this item

1400
01:43:57,935 --> 01:44:01,485
comes up before, before it's, uh, uh, before it comes to city council,

1401
01:44:02,395 --> 01:44:05,755
that it goes to the full cprc with the full available information,

1402
01:44:07,265 --> 01:44:11,045
um, so that they could provide comments and potential recommendation

1403
01:44:12,105 --> 01:44:15,765
or thoughts on that to, to us. So that would be my emotion, approve

1404
01:44:16,205 --> 01:44:19,725
this item and have it in the future. Come back to council, come next year's annual report

1405
01:44:20,265 --> 01:44:24,165
and next year's annual report whenever it comes back next time, whenever

1406
01:44:24,715 --> 01:44:28,645
this related item has got it. Because I think we've had this come in midyear, but

1407
01:44:28,965 --> 01:44:32,925
I think we've had budget meetings about things like this. So if it comes up before then, I think it's appropriate

1408
01:44:33,205 --> 01:44:37,125
before then, so, okay. Whenever it comes up. So as it relates to the military

1409
01:44:37,325 --> 01:44:41,285
equipment report, that's what you're asking for, correct. As it relates to the military grade equipment? Yes.

1410
01:44:41,475 --> 01:44:45,285
okay. Thank you. Clarification question. Yes. So, so this, uh, motion has been seconded.

1411
01:44:46,025 --> 01:44:49,725
yes. Thank you. Um, and, and so you're fine moving forward with the today?

1412
01:44:50,105 --> 01:44:53,845
yes, today's fine. Mm-hmm . Okay. Thank you. And, and I do agree, uh, just for the sake of information,

1413
01:44:54,265 --> 01:44:58,205
uh, I appreciate information, I appreciate a lot of information. And because

1414
01:44:58,505 --> 01:45:02,325
all of the information had already come to city council, it was published on our city website,

1415
01:45:02,985 --> 01:45:06,475
uh, I do agree that it, it should have been fully presented

1416
01:45:07,465 --> 01:45:11,285
to the cprc. Um, and I do agree that, uh, we should

1417
01:45:11,715 --> 01:45:15,645
utilize our volunteers that wanna do the work, let them do the work. So I do agree with,

1418
01:45:16,225 --> 01:45:20,105
um, presenting them with all the information that's available. Thank you. And I'm in, uh, uh,

1419
01:45:20,325 --> 01:45:21,045
support of the motion.

1420
01:45:26,765 --> 01:45:30,745
all right, so we have a motion and a second. See, no

1421
01:45:30,905 --> 01:45:34,885
more discussion, please vote. Motion to approve

1422
01:45:35,005 --> 01:45:35,005
unanimously.

1423
01:45:39,495 --> 01:45:43,255
alright, next, we'll go to nine seven. Uh, this is the regulatory agreement execution

1424
01:45:44,205 --> 01:45:47,585
and amendment to the kimball highland ground leaves and promissory

1425
01:45:48,215 --> 01:45:50,285
note. Uh, cesar javier.

1426
01:45:59,045 --> 01:46:02,875
thank you uncle sam. I love my national

1427
01:46:03,105 --> 01:46:04,945
city. This is my first residence.

1428
01:46:08,075 --> 01:46:12,045
when I heard the word kimball, it came to my mind. That's

1429
01:46:12,445 --> 01:46:16,035
for the seniors, came to my mind,

1430
01:46:17,135 --> 01:46:20,925
the very important element in planning sheltering.

1431
01:46:22,855 --> 01:46:26,835
but this item is all about lease and how much

1432
01:46:30,715 --> 01:46:34,095
our expectation here, your honor, is that

1433
01:46:34,875 --> 01:46:38,305
it would help us in our revenue,

1434
01:46:39,605 --> 01:46:40,845
in support of

1435
01:46:44,065 --> 01:46:47,995
affordable housing. That's my line of thinking, uh,

1436
01:46:49,305 --> 01:46:52,175
sir. And I hope this would

1437
01:46:54,665 --> 01:46:58,535
add to the revenue that is being

1438
01:46:58,735 --> 01:47:01,515
planned now through sandag

1439
01:47:02,945 --> 01:47:06,875
about housing, whether it is 1000

1440
01:47:07,915 --> 01:47:11,765
or million, this is a great idea,

1441
01:47:12,855 --> 01:47:16,635
particularly coping up with

1442
01:47:16,945 --> 01:47:20,945
the high rise of everything. Sir, we

1443
01:47:21,165 --> 01:47:24,805
welcome this, particularly if it helps

1444
01:47:26,105 --> 01:47:29,665
invest in sheltering within

1445
01:47:30,235 --> 01:47:31,685
mind for the seniors.

1446
01:47:37,185 --> 01:47:41,125
I commented in sandag that how much 6.8,

1447
01:47:42,615 --> 01:47:46,025
less or more if the planners are already

1448
01:47:47,015 --> 01:47:50,865
engaged in that particular issue, shelter for many, many

1449
01:47:51,105 --> 01:47:54,065
years. And I hope this is a lesson,

1450
01:47:56,655 --> 01:48:00,475
if only to realize that there ought to be sheltered for

1451
01:48:00,875 --> 01:48:04,875
everyone. Thank you. Okay. Thank you very much.

1452
01:48:05,815 --> 01:48:09,715
all right. That's the only speaker I have. What is the council pleasure chair comment

1453
01:48:09,975 --> 01:48:13,915
on 9.7. Yes. Somebody wanted to make a motion first before I make a comment,

1454
01:48:16,075 --> 01:48:20,015
a move to support 9.7. I'll second

1455
01:48:20,175 --> 01:48:23,955
the motion comment. Mr. Chair? Yes. Thank you. I have a, uh,

1456
01:48:25,035 --> 01:48:28,955
uh, long conversation with, uh, executive staff at, uh, my

1457
01:48:29,415 --> 01:48:33,175
briefing, and I have some, um, request to the city manager

1458
01:48:33,685 --> 01:48:37,615
with regards to my questions and comments, and I would like to put that

1459
01:48:37,795 --> 01:48:40,585
on record. Thank you. Okay.

1460
01:48:42,145 --> 01:48:45,875
alright. Um, so we do have a motion, a second.

1461
01:48:46,735 --> 01:48:48,395
seeing no other discussion, please vote.

1462
01:48:53,855 --> 01:48:57,755
motion to approve unanimously. Okay, next we go to nine eighth. This is a

1463
01:48:57,875 --> 01:49:01,235
notice of completion on the bicycle wayfinding signage project.

1464
01:49:02,495 --> 01:49:06,155
and so this is just saying that the project has been completed. Mr. Thomas reich,

1465
01:49:06,615 --> 01:49:08,695
and then mr. Cesar javier,

1466
01:49:12,685 --> 01:49:16,415
uh, this project is for signs $439,000

1467
01:49:19,045 --> 01:49:22,915
for signs for that say where

1468
01:49:23,285 --> 01:49:26,925
the bike path is. Well, that's,

1469
01:49:27,965 --> 01:49:31,925
that's the, that's the point I'm making. That's too expensive. And

1470
01:49:32,145 --> 01:49:36,045
this is all, this $439,000 is

1471
01:49:36,265 --> 01:49:39,485
going to the good sign and graphics company at 2010,

1472
01:49:41,195 --> 01:49:45,115
south five susan street, santa alley,

1473
01:49:45,595 --> 01:49:49,285
california. So they're, they're gonna be good

1474
01:49:49,765 --> 01:49:53,225
customers of national city, I'm sure. But, uh,

1475
01:49:54,075 --> 01:49:57,785
this is, uh, well, the

1476
01:49:58,115 --> 01:50:01,665
bike path for people, it,

1477
01:50:02,425 --> 01:50:06,405
how many people does, does include, does mere morrison your wife, do you use the

1478
01:50:06,605 --> 01:50:10,455
bike path a lot? Oh yeah. Yeah. Every

1479
01:50:10,825 --> 01:50:14,765
day. And yeah, there's a sign right out ho right outside here in front from go

1480
01:50:14,965 --> 01:50:17,355
to the bike path. So thank you. Alright,

1481
01:50:19,585 --> 01:50:22,545
uh, mr. Uh, cesar javier.

1482
01:50:26,285 --> 01:50:29,805
thank you, sir. We have

1483
01:50:30,635 --> 01:50:32,545
discussed this bike, uh,

1484
01:50:35,855 --> 01:50:39,725
issue or problem at sandag. I say problem because,

1485
01:50:42,225 --> 01:50:46,025
you know, these bike lanes, signages, et

1486
01:50:46,405 --> 01:50:50,275
cetera, are not implemented

1487
01:50:51,985 --> 01:50:55,685
as far as standard is concerned. Every community

1488
01:50:56,305 --> 01:51:00,175
has its own version. That's true.

1489
01:51:00,445 --> 01:51:03,785
very expensive. Others are not just paint,

1490
01:51:05,115 --> 01:51:08,895
but something solid that it

1491
01:51:09,335 --> 01:51:11,635
is prone to accidents.

1492
01:51:13,615 --> 01:51:17,255
come to our city, go around our city,

1493
01:51:17,925 --> 01:51:21,815
our community. We haven't gone much in our area

1494
01:51:22,805 --> 01:51:26,095
except the major routes and we see a clean, nice

1495
01:51:27,615 --> 01:51:28,415
painted lane.

1496
01:51:31,765 --> 01:51:34,685
this is a lesson, sir, that

1497
01:51:37,445 --> 01:51:40,175
once in my mind, just like an experiment,

1498
01:51:41,565 --> 01:51:45,375
this is stages experiment. Why? Because

1499
01:51:45,815 --> 01:51:48,765
dmb has already taught riders,

1500
01:51:50,535 --> 01:51:53,905
including, uh, cars that hey, let's share the road

1501
01:51:55,865 --> 01:51:59,765
so we know even without those lanes, that you have to look

1502
01:51:59,885 --> 01:52:03,885
at your side windows, et cetera, to ensure that everyone is safe.

1503
01:52:06,105 --> 01:52:10,085
now, for some reason, sandberg approved these projects.

1504
01:52:13,855 --> 01:52:17,835
I hope this will not be permanent, sir. Mm-hmm . That's the

1505
01:52:18,055 --> 01:52:21,965
next cycle probably of we just put a nice paint costing

1506
01:52:22,955 --> 01:52:26,765
10% of the cost only just

1507
01:52:27,055 --> 01:52:29,815
to save money. Thank you. Thank you.

1508
01:52:31,725 --> 01:52:35,655
alright, that's all the speakers we have for 9.8. What is your

1509
01:52:35,975 --> 01:52:39,675
pleasure? The approve. Mr. Chair. Second.

1510
01:52:40,445 --> 01:52:44,315
okay. Motion second. This is just a notice of completion, uh,

1511
01:52:44,635 --> 01:52:47,005
seeing no other discussion, uh, please vote.

1512
01:52:50,345 --> 01:52:52,875
motion approve with council member bush absent. Alright,

1513
01:52:55,315 --> 01:52:59,085
next we go to nine 10. This is notice decision planning commission approval

1514
01:52:59,465 --> 01:53:03,405
of a conditional use permit for a drive-through edition to an existing restaurant

1515
01:53:03,625 --> 01:53:06,885
that's karina's mexican seafood, located at 1705

1516
01:53:07,685 --> 01:53:11,565
highland avenue. And, um, chair, I believe that mr. Rodriguez

1517
01:53:12,285 --> 01:53:14,755
pulled that she's got a question about it. Mr. Mayor, 9.9,

1518
01:53:16,765 --> 01:53:20,565
I have a comment on 9.90, you have a comment on 9.9. Okay. Thank you ma'am. Okay. Okay.

1519
01:53:20,985 --> 01:53:24,895
um, just wanted to, um, commend our engineering public works

1520
01:53:25,705 --> 01:53:29,465
for completing this project. Um, this is the, uh,

1521
01:53:30,105 --> 01:53:33,785
the project, um, is to increase the system capacity of our,

1522
01:53:34,305 --> 01:53:38,105
um, of this, um, of this infrastructure. And I just wanted to make to,

1523
01:53:38,425 --> 01:53:42,325
um, think our, our engineer and public works for making

1524
01:53:42,725 --> 01:53:46,685
sure that our city's infrastructure, um, fits the city's requirements

1525
01:53:47,425 --> 01:53:51,145
to serve our people. Thank you and thank you so much. Uh, public works and,

1526
01:53:51,545 --> 01:53:55,365
and engineering. Okay. Alright. Now we go

1527
01:53:55,565 --> 01:53:59,285
to, uh, nine 10, which is the notice of decision planning commission. We need to,

1528
01:54:00,225 --> 01:54:02,945
we already did that was, that was, we did that, uh,

1529
01:54:05,535 --> 01:54:09,455
on the remaining. One second. Thank you, mayor. Um, just as a, uh,

1530
01:54:09,675 --> 01:54:13,355
this is regarding the, uh, drive-through that is being proposed through carinas over on

1531
01:54:13,715 --> 01:54:17,345
highland, uh, avenue. Uh, just a quick question about the landscape plan.

1532
01:54:17,775 --> 01:54:21,675
was the landscape plan provided in anticipation or is this something that

1533
01:54:21,855 --> 01:54:24,395
the applicant is going to work with staff to develop?

1534
01:54:26,095 --> 01:54:29,785
uh, generally speaking, they would be, um, this is an existing building with

1535
01:54:30,355 --> 01:54:34,115
existing landscaping and that would need to be maintained and we will work with them through the building permit

1536
01:54:34,395 --> 01:54:37,675
process to make sure that they're meeting code requirements for landscaping.

1537
01:54:38,495 --> 01:54:42,235
uh, but with regard to landscaping requirements for a drive through which there are

1538
01:54:42,595 --> 01:54:46,595
specific requirements because the, uh, drive through lane goes into the

1539
01:54:46,915 --> 01:54:50,835
property around and back out again, it wouldn't be, uh, it wouldn't be, the landscape buffer

1540
01:54:50,995 --> 01:54:54,795
wouldn't be required, so it would just be whatever landscaping they have that would,

1541
01:54:55,065 --> 01:54:59,035
that was approved as part of the original building would need to be maintained. Right. Thank

1542
01:54:59,275 --> 01:55:03,195
you. Um, many of us have very fond memories of carinas. It's a wonderful place in

1543
01:55:03,355 --> 01:55:07,275
our neighborhood and community. Um, I, I would have, because we've

1544
01:55:07,555 --> 01:55:11,395
done this consistently over the last three drive-through applications that we've had a pretty consistent

1545
01:55:12,065 --> 01:55:15,835
plan when it comes to our landscaping. And I think we set

1546
01:55:16,145 --> 01:55:19,875
very strict standards when it came to, to landscaping with in and out.

1547
01:55:20,575 --> 01:55:24,435
and we continue that, uh, with, um, god, what

1548
01:55:24,635 --> 01:55:28,475
is the coffee place called? Dutch brothers dutch bros as well. I, I would like to

1549
01:55:28,835 --> 01:55:32,675
recommend that we, you know, work with the applicant and have those same strict

1550
01:55:33,245 --> 01:55:37,025
guidelines when it comes to planting trees and making sure that they are more

1551
01:55:37,315 --> 01:55:40,855
mature trees, as we would assume that there would be more carbon

1552
01:55:41,595 --> 01:55:44,725
emissions through, uh, vehicles waiting in the drive through location.

1553
01:55:45,735 --> 01:55:49,725
understood. We will work with the application to your building. Thank you. Yeah. Do you need that in the

1554
01:55:49,805 --> 01:55:53,725
form of a motion or simply a, a direction would suffice? Uh, I

1555
01:55:53,845 --> 01:55:57,765
think, well, direction is fine for us. What I would, what I would say without going too far into this project,

1556
01:55:58,225 --> 01:56:01,865
but uh, as it's just a notice of decision, not a public hearing, is

1557
01:56:02,375 --> 01:56:06,365
again, the requirements in the land use code for a conditional use permit

1558
01:56:06,625 --> 01:56:10,545
for a drive through include landscaping requirements when the

1559
01:56:10,765 --> 01:56:14,765
drive through window or the drive aisle is between the drive through window and the right of way.

1560
01:56:14,885 --> 01:56:18,605
in which case we require at least three feet high landscaping, 10 feet wide,

1561
01:56:19,065 --> 01:56:23,005
et cetera. In this case, the location of the drive through window on the

1562
01:56:23,205 --> 01:56:27,155
building would not, uh, we don't get involved in that because it's

1563
01:56:27,445 --> 01:56:31,345
not between the right of way and the drive through. Right. So, but however, we, you

1564
01:56:31,565 --> 01:56:35,445
know, we will ensure that we maintain our policy of, of uh, making sure

1565
01:56:35,685 --> 01:56:39,525
that any required landscaping, whichever was significant when it was built, is maintained

1566
01:56:39,905 --> 01:56:43,505
as a part of our normal building permit process. But, but to

1567
01:56:43,995 --> 01:56:47,585
keep in line with the previous applicants as well when it came to,

1568
01:56:48,465 --> 01:56:50,965
um, uh, tree plantings around the property,

1569
01:56:53,065 --> 01:56:56,125
if, if I could that the previous ones were new construction

1570
01:56:57,185 --> 01:57:00,565
and so this one is not, this is an existing building that they're just adding

1571
01:57:01,585 --> 01:57:05,125
the drive through on. I understand. But with adding a drive through means that

1572
01:57:05,625 --> 01:57:09,445
we have further carbon emissions and that's why it's coming to council in the first place because

1573
01:57:09,725 --> 01:57:13,445
it would be a drive through. It's, it's the engineering on it that they're quote coming before

1574
01:57:13,765 --> 01:57:17,565
us. Is that not correct? I beg, pardon me? It's the engineering and that's the reason it's coming before

1575
01:57:17,925 --> 01:57:21,745
us. The engineering of the drive through, uh, that's part of it. There are are

1576
01:57:22,445 --> 01:57:26,365
a handful of different things that are involved with the cep that were all analyzed on the staff report that

1577
01:57:26,525 --> 01:57:30,165
went to the planning commission. One is the turning radius, which, uh, is established

1578
01:57:30,565 --> 01:57:34,445
by the city engineer, which the project was consistent with that. Uh, there

1579
01:57:34,685 --> 01:57:38,645
is the landscaping requirement if the drive through mm-hmm . Aisle is between the

1580
01:57:38,845 --> 01:57:42,785
window and the doesn't right of way, which is not the case in, in this one. Uh,

1581
01:57:43,025 --> 01:57:46,925
and there are also general design requirements as far as, you know, we look, we always look at

1582
01:57:47,045 --> 01:57:50,465
noise, we always look at, um, you know, potential nuisance if there are other, um,

1583
01:57:51,585 --> 01:57:55,505
if there are houses nearby for example. And of course traffic. Um, and

1584
01:57:55,725 --> 01:57:59,515
then we did base all of that on the fact that what corinas would be reopening

1585
01:58:00,625 --> 01:58:04,625
and, uh, operating a drive through. And we do have conditions in there if

1586
01:58:04,845 --> 01:58:08,765
it morphs into something more intensive that we will have the opportunity to come back

1587
01:58:08,925 --> 01:58:12,825
later and look at traffic again. But, uh, sorry. Um,

1588
01:58:13,045 --> 01:58:16,925
just to finish off my thought, with the landscaping, obviously we were to the mayor's point, we

1589
01:58:17,085 --> 01:58:20,725
were building new, um, new construction and it was, there was,

1590
01:58:21,265 --> 01:58:25,125
it definitely, uh, required the 10 foot

1591
01:58:25,565 --> 01:58:29,565
landscaping and obviously next to, uh, the freeway on ramp. But with within

1592
01:58:30,285 --> 01:58:34,205
and out there was a lot of, uh, landscaping area and, you know, just

1593
01:58:34,565 --> 01:58:38,345
a general, a problem in general and that was intended to, to offset that. So

1594
01:58:38,855 --> 01:58:42,565
while we do wanna make sure that we have adequate landscaping,

1595
01:58:42,885 --> 01:58:46,585
if we have anything that's too big in this location, it's gonna be all in front of the

1596
01:58:47,085 --> 01:58:50,425
business on highland avenue, which, which doesn't really, uh,

1597
01:58:51,865 --> 01:58:55,865
it doesn't really factor into the drive through discussion in this case. However, we will ensure that, you

1598
01:58:56,085 --> 01:58:59,985
know, mature landscaping is, is remains in place after, uh,

1599
01:59:00,345 --> 01:59:04,245
the, uh, building permit is, is approved. I appreciate it. Yeah. You know,

1600
01:59:05,125 --> 01:59:09,045
I would want to be, uh, continuing to support expansion of

1601
01:59:09,165 --> 01:59:13,125
drive-through locations without more mature foliage and trees around the

1602
01:59:13,285 --> 01:59:16,025
neighborhood. But I, I, I, I understand and I, uh,

1603
01:59:17,325 --> 01:59:21,285
I mean it sounds like you understand what we're referring to. I do understand.

1604
01:59:21,605 --> 01:59:25,425
and that also, I think that would be a good opportunity to have future discussion on policy and,

1605
01:59:25,645 --> 01:59:29,245
and changing the code to make, maybe make that change based on the potential

1606
01:59:29,685 --> 01:59:33,285
for emissions increase. But yeah, I understand. I appreciate that. I know we had that conversation

1607
01:59:33,765 --> 01:59:37,725
with the in and out yes. A few years back. Um, and, and it would be

1608
01:59:37,845 --> 01:59:41,725
good for us to revise a policy and, and, uh, be more specific when

1609
01:59:42,005 --> 01:59:45,005
it comes to new applicants. Yes. Thank you. You're welcome.

1610
01:59:47,225 --> 01:59:51,165
uh, with that, I would like to make a motion to adopt item nine point ten nine. Ten second.

1611
01:59:53,305 --> 01:59:57,235
okay. Question mr. Chair, we have a motion and a second you have

1612
01:59:57,315 --> 02:00:01,315
a question. I would like, um, would you be very kind to please state for the

1613
02:00:01,475 --> 02:00:04,595
record, um, why traffic study was not required for this project?

1614
02:00:07,215 --> 02:00:11,015
uh, absolutely through the chair. Uh, madam mia, as we just, we

1615
02:00:11,335 --> 02:00:15,155
uh, talked about in the planning commission staff report, this is an

1616
02:00:15,635 --> 02:00:19,595
existing building and uh, we do look at, well there

1617
02:00:19,755 --> 02:00:23,715
was a, a focus traffic study that was, that was, uh, actually I don't even think we did

1618
02:00:23,835 --> 02:00:27,715
a focus traffic study, did we? On this one? We did, yes. So it was a very, it was a minor traffic study and

1619
02:00:27,875 --> 02:00:31,835
it determined that with the pass by trips with the existing building and the existing trips that were

1620
02:00:32,455 --> 02:00:36,315
be generated by this restaurant, that there wasn't an increase enough to require a full traffic

1621
02:00:36,565 --> 02:00:40,235
study and therefore any mitigation measures. Thank you mr.

1622
02:00:40,605 --> 02:00:43,795
thank you. But if I could, but if the use changes

1623
02:00:44,815 --> 02:00:48,655
to a different type, use a heavier use, then we could, right? Yes.

1624
02:00:48,875 --> 02:00:52,875
the staff report did discuss that and that was discussed with the planning commission. If it morphed into

1625
02:00:53,315 --> 02:00:57,085
a starbucks, shall we say sure. And mega coffee joint,

1626
02:00:57,465 --> 02:01:00,865
then we would re-look at that. Yes. Right. Okay. Alright.

1627
02:01:01,905 --> 02:01:05,835
alright. We have a motion a second. This is to, uh, accept the notice of decision.

1628
02:01:06,535 --> 02:01:09,635
um, nothing else, please vote.

1629
02:01:12,835 --> 02:01:16,695
motion carried. Unanimously. Alright, next we go to, uh, nine 11.

1630
02:01:17,445 --> 02:01:21,415
there's projects to receive funding pursuant to sb one from the road maintenance

1631
02:01:21,935 --> 02:01:25,095
and rehabilitation account through the local streets and roads funding program.

1632
02:01:26,755 --> 02:01:30,335
and we have one speaker, uh, uh, says cesar javier.

1633
02:01:37,975 --> 02:01:40,845
thank you, sir. Still fresh.

1634
02:01:42,665 --> 02:01:45,865
we learned it from sandag that they have, uh, allocated, uh,

1635
02:01:46,905 --> 02:01:50,785
1.68 billion for the

1636
02:01:51,145 --> 02:01:53,555
city's improvements, maintenance,

1637
02:01:55,305 --> 02:01:59,275
rehabilitation of road cities road, very

1638
02:01:59,885 --> 02:02:03,805
specific. And, uh, 50% of this

1639
02:02:05,505 --> 02:02:09,325
is dedicated for such program. We welcome

1640
02:02:09,715 --> 02:02:13,525
this, sir, and let's grab this as soon as possible

1641
02:02:15,385 --> 02:02:19,085
before other cities might, uh, you know, jujitsu this

1642
02:02:20,065 --> 02:02:22,515
to their advantage. I commented,

1643
02:02:24,105 --> 02:02:26,005
uh, heavy enough because

1644
02:02:28,145 --> 02:02:31,565
the city of san diego, I hope it'll not happen here,

1645
02:02:32,835 --> 02:02:36,765
that our streets, after a year

1646
02:02:37,025 --> 02:02:40,895
or two, the, the roads are already cracking.

1647
02:02:43,085 --> 02:02:44,975
and we noticed that there is only this thin

1648
02:02:48,485 --> 02:02:52,225
adhesive or asphalt. I mean, and

1649
02:02:52,545 --> 02:02:56,545
so one time I asked the supervisor, sir,

1650
02:02:57,305 --> 02:03:01,165
mr. Supervisor, how many years would this

1651
02:03:01,405 --> 02:03:05,245
last? The newly paved road? Oh, mr. Javier, 10 years.

1652
02:03:07,675 --> 02:03:11,565
I'll take that. I document that. Why is

1653
02:03:11,725 --> 02:03:15,405
it that the fine aggregates one four

1654
02:03:15,795 --> 02:03:18,235
inch diameter aggregate

1655
02:03:21,055 --> 02:03:24,155
on the surface? I mean, it should not be,

1656
02:03:25,175 --> 02:03:28,945
it should be the asphalt payment. Right, sir? Cons,

1657
02:03:29,545 --> 02:03:33,465
planner bus. That

1658
02:03:33,755 --> 02:03:37,175
should not happen in national city. Sir,

1659
02:03:39,045 --> 02:03:39,795
thank you for your comment.

1660
02:03:43,975 --> 02:03:46,905
alright. Uh, that's the only speaker that we have on that item.

1661
02:03:48,095 --> 02:03:51,405
what is your pleasure? Motion, uh, mr. Chair. Second.

1662
02:03:52,535 --> 02:03:56,465
okay, we have a motion. And second. See no

1663
02:03:56,665 --> 02:03:57,345
more discussion. Please vote.

1664
02:04:03,325 --> 02:04:07,225
motion to approve unanimously. Next we go with, uh, item nine 12. This

1665
02:04:07,505 --> 02:04:10,025
is the investment report for the quarter ending december 31st, 2025.

1666
02:04:11,925 --> 02:04:13,825
and I believe that was mr. Rodriguez. Was it?

1667
02:04:16,015 --> 02:04:19,935
yeah. Um, thank you mayor. Just have

1668
02:04:20,055 --> 02:04:23,815
a quick question regarding the investment report. Um, can you walk us through,

1669
02:04:24,635 --> 02:04:28,375
uh, can you just walk us through

1670
02:04:28,875 --> 02:04:29,835
the, um,

1671
02:04:34,075 --> 02:04:36,135
the report, please? Lemme try to pull it up.

1672
02:04:50,525 --> 02:04:53,845
specifically the amount that was, oh, there, it's,

1673
02:04:56,425 --> 02:05:00,035
um, there was a significant decrease in funding from,

1674
02:05:00,585 --> 02:05:04,285
uh, the lafe fund. Um, can you walk us through,

1675
02:05:05,105 --> 02:05:08,925
um, that reduction in funding? Of course. Thank you.

1676
02:05:09,145 --> 02:05:13,045
um, mayor, counsel, uh, my name is rachel barrera, representing

1677
02:05:13,325 --> 02:05:17,285
your, uh, finance department, uh, acting director of finance.

1678
02:05:18,305 --> 02:05:22,225
um, so in terms of la, um, that is our more liquid,

1679
02:05:22,745 --> 02:05:26,475
uh, liquid account where if we need any amounts

1680
02:05:27,025 --> 02:05:30,865
to cover any obligations that we have for personnel or for

1681
02:05:31,485 --> 02:05:35,485
accounts payable, we use this account to replenish our cash account

1682
02:05:35,825 --> 02:05:39,525
to ensure checks don't, um, get returned from the vendors.

1683
02:05:40,785 --> 02:05:44,685
and in terms of the amount, um, as of

1684
02:05:44,885 --> 02:05:48,745
quarter ending 12 31, 20 25, you'll see that it was, it

1685
02:05:48,965 --> 02:05:52,765
went down to 14,000,486. Is that the one that you're referring

1686
02:05:53,165 --> 02:05:55,485
to? Correct. I see, uh, 14,000,517,

1687
02:05:57,785 --> 02:06:01,605
is that correct? Uh, five 17. Yeah. Sorry, I apologize. Yep. Um, so we had a couple of things happening.

1688
02:06:02,385 --> 02:06:05,955
uh, we had, uh, big ticket items that were, uh, processed

1689
02:06:06,565 --> 02:06:10,425
through personnel, um, including the payroll and

1690
02:06:10,745 --> 02:06:14,745
the accounts payable. So in those combinations, um, our

1691
02:06:14,985 --> 02:06:18,945
job is to make sure that we have enough cash balance in our checking account and to

1692
02:06:19,165 --> 02:06:23,165
ensure that we have, that we will turn to lafe where we don't have as much,

1693
02:06:23,625 --> 02:06:27,485
um, difficulty with drawing from that account to ensure that

1694
02:06:27,645 --> 02:06:31,545
we have enough funds to cover these checks that we produce. Great. And

1695
02:06:31,765 --> 02:06:35,465
so, um, combined in the

1696
02:06:35,915 --> 02:06:39,205
different accounts, uh, we're looking at chandler,

1697
02:06:40,545 --> 02:06:44,015
um, as of december 31st, 2025, 40 million

1698
02:06:44,705 --> 02:06:48,315
county of san diego, 41, the lafe account, 14 five

1699
02:06:49,305 --> 02:06:53,125
and neighborhood national bank at 2 million. Yes. With a sum of 98 million

1700
02:06:54,505 --> 02:06:58,315
in as of december 31st, 2025, correct? Yeah.

1701
02:06:59,065 --> 02:07:02,305
and the, um, reduction in, um,

1702
02:07:03,195 --> 02:07:06,745
funding amount and the lafe fund, uh,

1703
02:07:07,985 --> 02:07:11,685
are we expecting any reduction in that fund over the next year

1704
02:07:12,425 --> 02:07:16,425
as a result of our unassigned general fund balance expected to decrease? So

1705
02:07:16,645 --> 02:07:20,565
that is all dependent. Um, I'm not gonna say that's an absolute, um, because

1706
02:07:21,065 --> 02:07:25,045
we do rely on tax revenue to come in and then of course we've mentioned

1707
02:07:25,395 --> 02:07:28,645
several times the revenue initiatives that we're trying to pursue.

1708
02:07:30,325 --> 02:07:34,275
I see. And so, um, and just to, to kind of clarify some

1709
02:07:34,565 --> 02:07:37,555
of this stuff. So it's 98 millions in total investments

1710
02:07:38,825 --> 02:07:42,085
and, and that money comes from our reserve balances.

1711
02:07:42,935 --> 02:07:46,925
where does that money? It's a combination of our reserves. Yeah. So our cash balances

1712
02:07:47,505 --> 02:07:51,095
are spread out through these different investment accounts to get the highest yield.

1713
02:07:52,185 --> 02:07:55,775
and of course, uh, we try to, um, avoid

1714
02:07:56,405 --> 02:08:00,285
touching the other ones, which are chandler in the county pool. Um, which is why

1715
02:08:00,445 --> 02:08:04,165
we, we actually use lathe as our revolving account

1716
02:08:04,945 --> 02:08:08,305
as needed. I see. And um, lastly,

1717
02:08:08,985 --> 02:08:12,575
um, so the 98 million in comparison to our total

1718
02:08:13,235 --> 02:08:17,185
general fund budget, year to year, how much is it? Um,

1719
02:08:17,765 --> 02:08:21,565
I, unfortunately I don't have that in front of me. That's okay. I'll have to, I'll, I'll,

1720
02:08:21,805 --> 02:08:25,585
I'll follow up and provide that to you. Yeah, I guess we're going over the, um,

1721
02:08:26,675 --> 02:08:30,595
what is it called? The proposed budget for next year. Right. But yeah,

1722
02:08:30,945 --> 02:08:34,645
the balance, uh, the budget workshop document, right? I I believe it was in the

1723
02:08:35,285 --> 02:08:39,005
eighties. Yeah, it was in the eighties. But again, remember that, uh, that was

1724
02:08:39,445 --> 02:08:42,205
derived off of the last quarter of 3 31 20 26.

1725
02:08:44,455 --> 02:08:47,765
right. So that does change. Right? Right. But it's safe to say that

1726
02:08:48,685 --> 02:08:52,545
considering the reserve balance in the investment amount, um,

1727
02:08:52,985 --> 02:08:56,925
it is, it is at about a hundred percent of our yearly operating fund.

1728
02:08:57,195 --> 02:09:01,085
that is correct. Okay. Alright. Thank you for the clarification. I know that we haven't

1729
02:09:01,325 --> 02:09:04,715
really had deep briefings on our, um, investments

1730
02:09:05,465 --> 02:09:09,105
and investment portfolio. Yes. And I very much look forward to the first one

1731
02:09:09,475 --> 02:09:13,405
next june, eighth week. Mm-hmm . Next monday. Yeah, next monday. Uh, thank you

1732
02:09:13,485 --> 02:09:17,465
very much, appreciated. You're welcome. Thank you. Thank you. Are, are all the, the funds that are

1733
02:09:17,785 --> 02:09:21,245
in that from reserve, are those all general fund uh, reserves?

1734
02:09:22,075 --> 02:09:25,945
that is correct. We have, um, a number of things sitting there. We have the,

1735
02:09:26,625 --> 02:09:30,485
um, let me , we do have the, um, assigned

1736
02:09:30,775 --> 02:09:34,685
unassigned. We have all of the five, uh, different categories that we

1737
02:09:34,805 --> 02:09:38,725
have in our gasb 54 that are reflected in that amount. Okay. So they're both

1738
02:09:39,085 --> 02:09:42,965
assigned. Assigned and unassigned restricted. Unassigned. And do we have

1739
02:09:43,205 --> 02:09:46,875
controls on some of those assigned ones as far as liquidity

1740
02:09:47,545 --> 02:09:51,525
or us, what we can use 'em for or what we can't. It depends what it is. Yep. If they

1741
02:09:51,805 --> 02:09:55,205
are restricted, it will say in the, uh, compliance and the agreements.

1742
02:09:55,985 --> 02:09:59,725
so we'll have to read into those to determine whether or not we are able to touch them. There you go. Okay. Thank you.

1743
02:10:01,155 --> 02:10:05,125
alright. Um, alright. So what is your pleasure on, uh, nine

1744
02:10:05,405 --> 02:10:09,325
12? This is the investment report. Thank you. I'd like to adopt item nine 12.

1745
02:10:09,875 --> 02:10:13,005
okay. Second. All right.

1746
02:10:14,145 --> 02:10:18,085
uh, there we go. We have motion in a second. See, no more discussion.

1747
02:10:18,365 --> 02:10:21,125
please do. Motion to approve a unanimously plea.

1748
02:10:22,555 --> 02:10:26,385
alright, next we go to nine 15. This is a warrant registry and

1749
02:10:26,945 --> 02:10:30,925
I'm gonna nine 15 and nine 16. We're gonna take

1750
02:10:31,165 --> 02:10:35,165
'em together. Uh, mr. Thomas reich. And then

1751
02:10:35,385 --> 02:10:36,225
mr. Yto,

1752
02:10:41,855 --> 02:10:45,295
I'm just gonna review some of the big items for,

1753
02:10:46,175 --> 02:10:50,015
for, for register. 43 and 45. Uh,

1754
02:10:50,265 --> 02:10:53,995
dick miller incorporated the toy and park improvements, 160

1755
02:10:54,865 --> 02:10:58,715
thou $116,000. Dick meyer,

1756
02:11:00,105 --> 02:11:02,935
dick miller, east, east side 1 0 5

1757
02:11:04,625 --> 02:11:08,345
greenbelt, 100, 100,000 southwest

1758
02:11:08,975 --> 02:11:11,045
signal for intersection, 61,000

1759
02:11:13,025 --> 02:11:16,135
city attorney legal services took 300 and

1760
02:11:17,315 --> 02:11:20,265
I mean three 33,000 city manager

1761
02:11:21,815 --> 02:11:25,805
js and sons catering for employee appreciation lunch, $5,300.

1762
02:11:29,415 --> 02:11:33,005
uh, answer grant villa,

1763
02:11:33,675 --> 02:11:37,595
$13,000. National electrical,

1764
02:11:39,115 --> 02:11:41,935
wo arts workshop, $30,000

1765
02:11:44,305 --> 02:11:47,965
motorolas, uh, fire motorola solutions radio

1766
02:11:48,835 --> 02:11:52,495
batteries, $2,000. Uh, ec

1767
02:11:53,355 --> 02:11:56,345
pipeline store upsizing 515,000.

1768
02:11:59,275 --> 02:12:01,755
fernando araiza, 19,000.

1769
02:12:05,935 --> 02:12:09,715
no. Okay, I'm for nc national city police department.

1770
02:12:10,915 --> 02:12:12,275
investigations capacity 194,000

1771
02:12:14,945 --> 02:12:17,875
exus incorporated personnel staffing, 58,000.

1772
02:12:19,695 --> 02:12:23,555
it data circuits 27,000. City attorney,

1773
02:12:24,175 --> 02:12:26,815
26,000. And

1774
02:12:28,335 --> 02:12:31,265
uh, that's all for that. Thank you. Okay. Alright.

1775
02:12:32,935 --> 02:12:35,345
uh, edwardo,

1776
02:12:43,345 --> 02:12:47,065
um, I, I'm just coming up. I always come up in this area, um,

1777
02:12:47,425 --> 02:12:50,945
asking in this warrant register, why don't you put

1778
02:12:51,505 --> 02:12:55,225
the date of the invoice finding in the past that

1779
02:12:55,515 --> 02:12:59,375
these invoices have been submitted way late and you

1780
02:12:59,595 --> 02:13:03,475
don't have the date. And we all know that, you know, your end comes around

1781
02:13:04,575 --> 02:13:08,435
and all of a sudden, you know, these miraculous invoices that have

1782
02:13:08,595 --> 02:13:12,395
been outstanding for months come in and you start asking,

1783
02:13:12,815 --> 02:13:16,785
why would they do that? So that's an audit adjustment that people need

1784
02:13:17,075 --> 02:13:20,315
to look at. Why are invoices late? Why is there a surprise?

1785
02:13:21,175 --> 02:13:25,075
and, um, you know, I, I've been coming for months to ask if that could be put in

1786
02:13:25,235 --> 02:13:29,095
there and I think that would be helpful. Okay. Thank

1787
02:13:29,445 --> 02:13:33,045
you. Okay. That is items nine 15 and nine 16

1788
02:13:33,485 --> 02:13:35,885
warrant registries. What is your pleasure?

1789
02:13:38,305 --> 02:13:40,955
motion to, uh, accept. Okay.

1790
02:13:42,565 --> 02:13:45,875
warrants, um, nine point 15

1791
02:13:47,575 --> 02:13:51,245
chair. Okay. Alright. Do you have a second?

1792
02:13:54,635 --> 02:13:57,805
I'll second. Okay. Okay. We have a motion and a second.

1793
02:13:59,005 --> 02:14:00,085
I see. No more discussion. Please vote.

1794
02:14:03,595 --> 02:14:04,085
council member

1795
02:14:07,895 --> 02:14:11,295
waiting for council member molina. Okay.

1796
02:14:12,975 --> 02:14:15,425
this is register. Mm-hmm . This is, yeah. The warrant registries.

1797
02:14:17,245 --> 02:14:21,105
motion to approve unanimously. Alright, this is

1798
02:14:21,265 --> 02:14:24,425
outta consent calendar. Next we go into public hearings.

1799
02:14:25,915 --> 02:14:29,455
first public hearing is public hearing and adoption resolution. Accepting

1800
02:14:30,065 --> 02:14:34,015
the city of nashville city's, uh, city sewer tax roll, fiscal year

1801
02:14:34,525 --> 02:14:37,955
26 27 report, uh, staff.

1802
02:14:42,245 --> 02:14:46,235
good evening. Um, mayor, vice mayor, council members and

1803
02:14:47,065 --> 02:14:51,015
staff and community. Marta juarez, acting director for engineering and public works.

1804
02:14:51,995 --> 02:14:55,905
um, tonight we have this item, which is, uh, something we bring to you every

1805
02:14:56,255 --> 02:15:00,075
year. We're essentially just seeking acceptance of the sewer tax

1806
02:15:00,365 --> 02:15:04,295
role for fiscal year two th 20 26 27, uh, which

1807
02:15:04,535 --> 02:15:08,375
will be submitted to the county for inclusion on the of the city

1808
02:15:08,825 --> 02:15:12,355
sewer service charges on property tax bills. Um,

1809
02:15:13,125 --> 02:15:16,445
this opens, uh, the public hearing. And upon authorization,

1810
02:15:17,705 --> 02:15:21,615
we'll be able to send this to the county, um, open for any questions or specific

1811
02:15:21,775 --> 02:15:23,015
information you'd like on this.

1812
02:15:25,835 --> 02:15:29,635
all right. Um, with that, seeing on that, I'm

1813
02:15:29,855 --> 02:15:33,675
gonna open the public hearing. We have one speaker on

1814
02:15:33,895 --> 02:15:35,435
this. Uh, it says our javier.

1815
02:15:44,995 --> 02:15:47,805
thank you, sir. This is

1816
02:15:49,615 --> 02:15:53,275
what I diagram. Sweetwater

1817
02:15:54,845 --> 02:15:58,535
coming from, uh, sweetwater authority

1818
02:16:01,045 --> 02:16:04,065
used by man goes to the sewer.

1819
02:16:06,175 --> 02:16:08,295
we call it sewage. Wes

1820
02:16:11,295 --> 02:16:14,495
sea. Wes, at an appointed time will be pumped out

1821
02:16:15,695 --> 02:16:19,505
by a mobile truck. And

1822
02:16:19,725 --> 02:16:22,455
that mobile truck now will bring it to where

1823
02:16:27,105 --> 02:16:30,705
treatment plant, of course. And a pcd

1824
02:16:34,345 --> 02:16:38,235
investigate, oh, there is an emission,

1825
02:16:40,465 --> 02:16:44,255
a neighborhood says. And a pcd goes

1826
02:16:44,495 --> 02:16:47,975
there, investigate. There is a leak,

1827
02:16:48,745 --> 02:16:51,575
there is a, uh, emission from the treatment plant

1828
02:16:52,845 --> 02:16:56,595
specialists come and go. Why? Because that's

1829
02:16:56,995 --> 02:17:00,875
a big business throughout the travel of that

1830
02:17:01,135 --> 02:17:03,685
sea or sewed costs

1831
02:17:05,865 --> 02:17:08,805
because of that service rendered.

1832
02:17:11,305 --> 02:17:11,985
my question is,

1833
02:17:15,855 --> 02:17:19,775
are we to increase or tax

1834
02:17:20,215 --> 02:17:23,515
the already tax resident

1835
02:17:26,135 --> 02:17:29,225
when the water, which is supposed to be,

1836
02:17:30,765 --> 02:17:31,815
if possible, chip?

1837
02:17:35,485 --> 02:17:39,395
what does it mean now, councilor

1838
02:17:40,175 --> 02:17:44,045
buser adequate supply of water

1839
02:17:44,905 --> 02:17:48,865
and yet we do not recognize collecting. Thank you for your comments. Saving

1840
02:17:49,395 --> 02:17:53,365
this gift from heaven. Rain. Thank you sir. Thank you.

1841
02:17:54,265 --> 02:17:58,245
that's all the speakers we have. If we could have a motion to close the public

1842
02:17:58,405 --> 02:18:01,845
hearing. Close the public hearing. Okay. We have a motion. Can we have a second?

1843
02:18:07,515 --> 02:18:11,485
okay. I'll second that. Alright. Um, with that we have

1844
02:18:11,845 --> 02:18:15,755
a motion and a second. This is to, uh, close the public hearing. Uh, please vote.

1845
02:18:20,785 --> 02:18:24,405
motion preview unanimously. Okay. Alright. We have,

1846
02:18:26,185 --> 02:18:28,925
uh, basically a three part that needs to be done on this, accepting

1847
02:18:30,265 --> 02:18:34,205
the, uh, the report and then also directing our city clerk to

1848
02:18:34,405 --> 02:18:38,045
file a report with the county, uh, auditor and controller. And also directing our

1849
02:18:38,515 --> 02:18:42,245
city engineer to submit a certification of the sewer service charges

1850
02:18:42,745 --> 02:18:45,525
to the county of san diego auditor and controller. So, move.

1851
02:18:46,875 --> 02:18:50,845
okay. Motion can three motions or can all be in one motion. It can all be in one, but yeah. So move

1852
02:18:52,025 --> 02:18:56,015
second. We have a motion and a second for the

1853
02:18:56,205 --> 02:19:00,175
staff's recommendation. And seeing no discussion,

1854
02:19:00,655 --> 02:19:00,895
please vote.

1855
02:19:07,195 --> 02:19:11,005
motion preview a unanimously mr. May I have point of clarification? Does

1856
02:19:11,295 --> 02:19:14,375
that, does this come back to us again for second reading or no more?

1857
02:19:16,085 --> 02:19:19,965
uh, no, this is not, this is not the type that does. Thank you. No.

1858
02:19:20,225 --> 02:19:22,905
'cause it's not, it is not an ordinance. Okay. It's an ordinance. It would,

1859
02:19:24,405 --> 02:19:27,965
um, okay, next we go to ten two.

1860
02:19:28,515 --> 02:19:32,345
this is the, uh, public hearing on the local public employees vacant

1861
02:19:33,205 --> 02:19:35,645
positions. That's through assembly bill, uh, 25 61.

1862
02:19:37,985 --> 02:19:41,825
um, any staff report on this? Yes. Uh, mr. Mayor, and,

1863
02:19:42,065 --> 02:19:45,785
uh, thank you so much for the opportunity tonight. Uh, I'd like to, um,

1864
02:19:46,155 --> 02:19:49,605
introduce this item, uh, who, this item which will be presented

1865
02:19:50,865 --> 02:19:54,625
by, uh, haley lusher, one of our hr analysts, , um,

1866
02:19:55,105 --> 02:19:59,045
in recruitment, uh, does a lot of our public safety recruitments, uh, right

1867
02:19:59,285 --> 02:20:02,685
now, very heavy and, uh, working on fire. So thank you hailey, for being here.

1868
02:20:03,355 --> 02:20:06,725
this, uh, tonight is a, uh, public hearing

1869
02:20:07,865 --> 02:20:11,705
on local public employees vacant positions pursuant to ab 2 5 6 1.

1870
02:20:13,075 --> 02:20:16,165
this is a report that we provide every year as part of the budget process

1871
02:20:17,105 --> 02:20:20,605
to highlight the agency's vacancies and what we're working on to, uh, improve

1872
02:20:21,245 --> 02:20:25,065
vacancy rates. So, with that, I'll turn it over to haley. Thank you so much. He's been waiting all

1873
02:20:25,285 --> 02:20:29,115
evening for this. I know. Ready to go. Okay, let's go with it. Okay. Good

1874
02:20:29,405 --> 02:20:32,935
evening, mayor, vice mayor and council members. Uh, my name is haley.

1875
02:20:33,425 --> 02:20:37,385
I'm here to represent the hr department to speak on behalf of ab

1876
02:20:37,605 --> 02:20:41,065
25 61. So what is,

1877
02:20:41,955 --> 02:20:45,835
oops. Oh, so

1878
02:20:46,055 --> 02:20:46,835
what is ab 25 61?

1879
02:20:50,915 --> 02:20:54,715
so, as a reminder from last year's presentation, let's revisit the

1880
02:20:54,935 --> 02:20:58,925
legislation intent behind ab 25 61. The legislature

1881
02:21:00,415 --> 02:21:03,895
recognized that job vacancies in local government are a widespread

1882
02:21:04,635 --> 02:21:08,255
and ongoing challenge. High vacancy rates can increase

1883
02:21:08,775 --> 02:21:12,395
workloads for existing staff, contribute to burnout and

1884
02:21:12,855 --> 02:21:16,735
turnover, and ulti ultimately affect agency's ability to maintain service

1885
02:21:17,195 --> 02:21:21,175
levels and workforce stability. As we move into

1886
02:21:21,455 --> 02:21:25,315
this year's update, it's important to keep this context in mind as

1887
02:21:25,535 --> 02:21:29,455
these concerns continue to shape the reporting requirements under ab 25 61.

1888
02:21:33,025 --> 02:21:36,685
as a result of the findings I mentioned on the previous slide, effective january 1st, 2025,

1889
02:21:39,175 --> 02:21:42,985
local government agencies are now required to one

1890
02:21:43,275 --> 02:21:47,045
present vacancy data and recruitment efforts as a public hearing

1891
02:21:47,585 --> 02:21:51,485
at least once per fiscal year. This includes job openings,

1892
02:21:52,045 --> 02:21:55,865
candidate activity, eligibility lists, and retention efforts. And

1893
02:21:56,105 --> 02:22:00,025
the hearing must take place before the budget is approved. Um,

1894
02:22:00,345 --> 02:22:04,245
and number two, bargaining unions must be notified and if

1895
02:22:04,405 --> 02:22:07,845
they choose, so may speak on behalf of this matter.

1896
02:22:10,705 --> 02:22:14,465
so, to quickly go over the status of our vacancies, as of may 12th,

1897
02:22:15,135 --> 02:22:18,965
we've opened 49 recruitments since the start of this fiscal

1898
02:22:19,395 --> 02:22:23,265
year. As a result of our active recruitment efforts, we

1899
02:22:23,485 --> 02:22:27,075
have successful, successfully filled 64 full-time

1900
02:22:28,045 --> 02:22:31,695
positions. That said, we currently have 40 full-time

1901
02:22:32,445 --> 02:22:36,355
vacancies. So here on this side, we have the vacancies

1902
02:22:36,955 --> 02:22:40,815
broken down by bargaining union. Um, we can see that we have a total of

1903
02:22:41,035 --> 02:22:44,555
376 career full-time positions.

1904
02:22:45,055 --> 02:22:49,035
of that total four 40 positions are vacant as of

1905
02:22:49,335 --> 02:22:53,335
may 12th. In regards to

1906
02:22:53,615 --> 02:22:57,385
our recruitment and retention efforts. Over the past year, the city implemented

1907
02:22:58,075 --> 02:23:02,045
several strategies to support recruitment and retention efforts. First,

1908
02:23:02,775 --> 02:23:06,695
um, the council approved salary increases across all

1909
02:23:07,555 --> 02:23:10,735
employee groups to help maintain competi competitiveness

1910
02:23:11,975 --> 02:23:15,515
in the labor market. Um, in addition, requisition

1911
02:23:16,275 --> 02:23:20,275
approval workflows in neo gov were streamlined to improve efficiency and reduce

1912
02:23:20,735 --> 02:23:24,515
delays in the hiring process, helping departments move more quickly

1913
02:23:24,825 --> 02:23:28,475
when filling vacancies. And finally, internally within

1914
02:23:29,135 --> 02:23:33,035
hr, we reorganized our recruitment responsibilities to provide more

1915
02:23:33,325 --> 02:23:36,795
focus support to departments and strengthen overall recruitment efforts.

1916
02:23:38,575 --> 02:23:42,515
so thank you and rex and I are here to answer any questions you may

1917
02:23:42,675 --> 02:23:46,445
have. Right. Any

1918
02:23:46,825 --> 02:23:49,335
questions? Okay.

1919
02:23:50,995 --> 02:23:54,345
thank you very much. Uh, we do have one speaker on this

1920
02:23:55,505 --> 02:23:57,045
, you have hailey a hand. Yay,

1921
02:24:00,905 --> 02:24:03,345
. All right. Uh, jeremy day.

1922
02:24:05,015 --> 02:24:08,825
good evening, mayor, vice mayor, and I should say opening the public hearing. Go now. Now go for it. Council

1923
02:24:10,675 --> 02:24:14,585
staff and members of the public, uh, jeremy day, I am the president of

1924
02:24:14,745 --> 02:24:18,625
the national city firefighters. Um, very often

1925
02:24:19,485 --> 02:24:23,265
we are here to speak into the mic about not necessarily

1926
02:24:23,665 --> 02:24:26,905
something negative, but to call light to something to cause a change.

1927
02:24:27,885 --> 02:24:31,745
um, but today I want to be positive in that if you look the report,

1928
02:24:32,165 --> 02:24:35,775
the fire department has a 2%, uh, vacancy rate.

1929
02:24:36,325 --> 02:24:40,265
and that's actually one position, which is a fire captain, which we have interviews for tomorrow.

1930
02:24:41,205 --> 02:24:44,705
uh, that does not happen without the hr department

1931
02:24:45,225 --> 02:24:49,145
working hand in hand with the staff of the fire department to ensure that we have

1932
02:24:49,315 --> 02:24:53,005
continuing and ongoing recruitments. And internally we are

1933
02:24:53,825 --> 02:24:57,765
consistently working on our culture and our workload to ensure we

1934
02:24:58,045 --> 02:25:01,905
retain folks. If they're leaving faster than you can recruit them,

1935
02:25:02,245 --> 02:25:06,145
that's a problem. And if you're not doing the recruitments, then you can't fill the

1936
02:25:06,505 --> 02:25:10,265
positions. Now, when, when this assembly bill

1937
02:25:10,525 --> 02:25:13,645
was written, it was, it focuses on unions

1938
02:25:14,735 --> 02:25:18,425
because we have a voice, because we're a collective

1939
02:25:18,745 --> 02:25:22,575
group. The hr department

1940
02:25:23,045 --> 02:25:26,505
has had four hr directors in five years.

1941
02:25:27,655 --> 02:25:31,585
they're not the only department that has a evolving door in the leadership

1942
02:25:32,185 --> 02:25:35,705
position of that department, including the city in general. Recruitment and retention

1943
02:25:36,195 --> 02:25:39,665
needs to be focused on across the entire city, not just on the bargaining units.

1944
02:25:41,815 --> 02:25:45,665
we can't correctly support our members without

1945
02:25:46,155 --> 02:25:48,635
leadership looking for revenues,

1946
02:25:50,565 --> 02:25:54,195
developing balanced budgets, and ensuring that our members

1947
02:25:54,615 --> 02:25:58,395
are supported. So I just use this item to highlight retention

1948
02:25:58,695 --> 02:26:02,235
is a citywide issue and we should be focused on everyone.

1949
02:26:03,955 --> 02:26:07,505
thank you very much with that.

1950
02:26:09,685 --> 02:26:13,595
um, we have a motion

1951
02:26:14,015 --> 02:26:17,655
to close the public hearing, so chair second.

1952
02:26:19,705 --> 02:26:20,835
okay. Um, uh,

1953
02:26:24,685 --> 02:26:26,175
this is to close the public hearing. Please vote.

1954
02:26:29,735 --> 02:26:33,385
question prove unanimously. Now,

1955
02:26:33,805 --> 02:26:37,725
I got in turn to our city attorney here in this case, our obligations to hold a public

1956
02:26:37,925 --> 02:26:41,885
hearing. But there's really nothing to vote on. Correct? There's no votes. There's no vote

1957
02:26:42,065 --> 02:26:45,745
on this one. Alright, that's what I thought. So, as long as we just held the public hearing itself,

1958
02:26:46,425 --> 02:26:50,425
we did it. We did it. So we're, we're good there. So

1959
02:26:50,995 --> 02:26:54,705
next we get into staff reports. Oh, no. You guys got

1960
02:26:55,005 --> 02:26:58,755
anything to report on tonight? Just

1961
02:26:59,085 --> 02:26:59,365
a little item

1962
02:27:05,145 --> 02:27:05,145
crunch.

1963
02:27:10,425 --> 02:27:11,285
cat. I'll kill the mic.

1964
02:28:01,605 --> 02:28:05,585
all right, mayor, uh, council members of the public, I'm gonna go ahead and turn it over to

1965
02:28:05,785 --> 02:28:09,385
our budget manager, paul valez, to present your proposed budget

1966
02:28:09,885 --> 02:28:13,585
for fiscal year 27. Um, upon, uh, completion

1967
02:28:14,025 --> 02:28:17,645
of this presentation, I'll offer a few closing remarks and then we'll open it up for,

1968
02:28:18,045 --> 02:28:18,985
for questions. Thank you.

1969
02:28:26,535 --> 02:28:30,525
good evening, mayor morrison, vice mayor molina, and members of the city council. Paul ez,

1970
02:28:30,745 --> 02:28:34,145
budget manager. Tonight, staff presents the fiscal year 27

1971
02:28:35,545 --> 02:28:38,985
proposed budget for your consideration, and I'll also provide a summary of the following

1972
02:28:39,705 --> 02:28:43,185
items. First, I'll be giving an overview of the city's budget, process,

1973
02:28:43,885 --> 02:28:47,705
and calendar. Next are some informational slides that address

1974
02:28:48,105 --> 02:28:52,055
requests from council at the may 18th workshop. I'll

1975
02:28:52,345 --> 02:28:56,145
recap the recommended budget reductions from that workshop, as well as some other

1976
02:28:56,545 --> 02:29:00,185
reductions that have been identified and incorporated into the proposed budget.

1977
02:29:01,735 --> 02:29:05,455
finally, I'll show the estimated impact of the proposed budget on the general fund

1978
02:29:05,745 --> 02:29:06,625
unassigned fund balance.

1979
02:29:12,085 --> 02:29:15,705
the city's current budget process was briefly reviewed at the may 18th workshop,

1980
02:29:16,325 --> 02:29:20,245
but I wanted to go over it again and give an idea of the timeframe of the

1981
02:29:20,465 --> 02:29:24,105
development process. So, beginning in december, finance

1982
02:29:24,725 --> 02:29:28,175
begins to gather all the information to develop non-discretionary budgets.

1983
02:29:29,365 --> 02:29:33,345
on the expenditure side. This includes extracting informa employee information from the payroll

1984
02:29:33,625 --> 02:29:37,625
system, creating salary tables that will be in effect for the next fiscal

1985
02:29:38,015 --> 02:29:41,595
year, collecting information on new calpers rates, healthcare

1986
02:29:42,405 --> 02:29:46,145
and insurance premium increases and debt service schedules.

1987
02:29:47,685 --> 02:29:51,325
on the revenue side, the city meets with our sales tax consultant to

1988
02:29:51,815 --> 02:29:54,895
discuss their updated projections for the upcoming fiscal year.

1989
02:29:56,245 --> 02:30:00,245
we review valuation reports for the city's property tax revenue and

1990
02:30:00,535 --> 02:30:04,505
analyze recent actuals, as well as other economic indicators for the city's

1991
02:30:04,905 --> 02:30:08,465
other general revenues. In january,

1992
02:30:09,125 --> 02:30:12,985
the financial system is opened up to the departments where they begin entering budget

1993
02:30:13,365 --> 02:30:17,305
detail for their discretionary accounts. These accounts are

1994
02:30:17,535 --> 02:30:20,865
zero based and include contracts, professional services,

1995
02:30:21,685 --> 02:30:25,425
and other maintenance and operations accounts. All expenditures

1996
02:30:26,065 --> 02:30:29,865
entered during this part of the process are for maintaining current service levels

1997
02:30:30,375 --> 02:30:33,145
only, and do not include any service level enhancements.

1998
02:30:34,575 --> 02:30:38,065
departments also enter their estimated program revenues at this time,

1999
02:30:40,265 --> 02:30:43,825
a separate but concurrent process allows departments to submit enhancement

2000
02:30:44,305 --> 02:30:48,185
requests for items such as additional staff or other service level increases.

2001
02:30:49,475 --> 02:30:52,865
these are reviewed and considered independent of the baseline budget process

2002
02:30:55,045 --> 02:30:58,925
in march and april. Each department meets with the city manager and finance to

2003
02:30:59,145 --> 02:31:02,985
discuss their baseline budget and present information about department operations.

2004
02:31:04,965 --> 02:31:08,945
the council are reviewed line by line to ensure that only items maintained in current

2005
02:31:09,185 --> 02:31:10,985
service levels are included in the baseline.

2006
02:31:13,355 --> 02:31:16,345
these meetings sometimes require one or more follow up meetings.

2007
02:31:18,845 --> 02:31:22,485
any enhancement items are considered by the city manager for alignment with the city's

2008
02:31:22,885 --> 02:31:26,865
priorities, as well as for available funding due

2009
02:31:27,105 --> 02:31:30,875
to the, due to the anticipated budget deficit. There are no general fund

2010
02:31:31,165 --> 02:31:34,085
enhancements included in the fiscal year 27 proposed budget.

2011
02:31:38,585 --> 02:31:42,525
on may 4th, a workshop was held to review the city's preliminary budget as well as the

2012
02:31:42,645 --> 02:31:45,005
estimated impact on the city's unassigned fund balance

2013
02:31:46,745 --> 02:31:50,545
on may 18th. A second budget workshop was held to follow up on items dis

2014
02:31:50,875 --> 02:31:54,765
discussed on may 4th, as well as to present a series of staff recommended

2015
02:31:55,325 --> 02:31:58,405
budget reductions aimed at reducing the estimated budget deficit.

2016
02:32:00,515 --> 02:32:04,045
that brings us to today, june 2nd. In addition to the budget

2017
02:32:04,565 --> 02:32:07,965
reductions recommended on may 18th, staff has identified additional

2018
02:32:08,605 --> 02:32:12,445
reductions that have been also been incorporated into the proposed budget before you today.

2019
02:32:15,305 --> 02:32:19,245
and looking forward to the next steps in the process, the city is required to

2020
02:32:19,455 --> 02:32:23,355
adopt a budget for the next fiscal year by june 30th. Once

2021
02:32:23,645 --> 02:32:26,865
the budget is adopted, drafting of the adopted budget document begins

2022
02:32:28,345 --> 02:32:32,325
in addition to the schedules and detail reports included in the propo proposed version

2023
02:32:32,645 --> 02:32:36,405
that you have, uh, the adopted document includes additional narrative sections,

2024
02:32:36,885 --> 02:32:40,765
including information about national city budget, message and highlights,

2025
02:32:41,415 --> 02:32:44,685
department goals and objectives, as well as performance metrics.

2026
02:32:49,705 --> 02:32:53,445
the next few slides address council requests that came up during the last budget

2027
02:32:54,125 --> 02:32:57,945
workshop. A request was made by council to

2028
02:32:58,165 --> 02:33:01,925
provide revenues and expenditures by category for the columns shown here,

2029
02:33:03,225 --> 02:33:06,805
fiscal year 2024, actuals fiscal year 2025,

2030
02:33:07,835 --> 02:33:11,565
unaudited actuals, year to date actuals through march 31st

2031
02:33:13,025 --> 02:33:16,845
for fiscal year 2026, which were presented as part

2032
02:33:17,045 --> 02:33:18,325
of the third quarter report on april 21st.

2033
02:33:21,905 --> 02:33:25,675
the next column, uh, is made up of those same year to date actuals

2034
02:33:26,165 --> 02:33:30,085
through march 31st, plus projected activity for the remainder

2035
02:33:30,485 --> 02:33:33,965
of fiscal year 26. These were also presented at the april 21st

2036
02:33:34,645 --> 02:33:38,005
council meeting. And finally, the fiscal year 2027

2037
02:33:39,085 --> 02:33:41,895
proposed budget, which you'll see again in the upcoming slide.

2038
02:33:46,645 --> 02:33:49,895
here are those same columns on the expenditure side,

2039
02:33:51,275 --> 02:33:55,215
the impact on the general fund unassigned fund balance, as well as the

2040
02:33:55,375 --> 02:33:58,615
change from the fiscal year 27 preliminary to the 27

2041
02:33:59,415 --> 02:34:02,055
proposed budget, will be discussed later in the presentation.

2042
02:34:09,455 --> 02:34:13,335
here's a list of the 383 fte authorized position in

2043
02:34:13,555 --> 02:34:17,285
the fiscal year 27 budget. The slide is for informational

2044
02:34:17,925 --> 02:34:21,885
purposes only, and includes and does include positions that have been

2045
02:34:22,005 --> 02:34:25,825
frozen in the proposed budget. There has

2046
02:34:26,045 --> 02:34:29,845
been an increase of one fte from the preliminary budget due to a

2047
02:34:30,165 --> 02:34:33,985
critical need for administrative support and housing. This has no

2048
02:34:34,225 --> 02:34:37,605
impact on the general fund as the position is 100% funded

2049
02:34:38,505 --> 02:34:39,055
by housing funds.

2050
02:34:45,345 --> 02:34:49,325
at the last council workshop, council requested an updated snapshot of general

2051
02:34:49,595 --> 02:34:52,115
fund vacancies along with their estimated annual cost.

2052
02:34:53,665 --> 02:34:57,645
the list on these two pages aligns with the vacant position report submitted by

2053
02:34:57,805 --> 02:35:01,565
human resources in the previous item. I would like to emphasize,

2054
02:35:02,005 --> 02:35:05,885
once again, that vacancies are continually changing and this

2055
02:35:06,085 --> 02:35:08,565
report would likely look different if regenerated next week.

2056
02:35:14,675 --> 02:35:18,445
I've made a note of the positions on the list that are already frozen in the proposed budget.

2057
02:35:19,515 --> 02:35:23,285
this was done to indicate that no further savings could be realized by freezing these

2058
02:35:23,845 --> 02:35:23,845
positions.

2059
02:35:29,595 --> 02:35:33,245
also, at the last workshop, counsel requested to see the impact of recently

2060
02:35:33,685 --> 02:35:36,005
approved cost of living adjustments on fiscal year 2027.

2061
02:35:38,315 --> 02:35:42,085
I've broken out this information by group as well as general fund versus

2062
02:35:42,325 --> 02:35:45,565
other funds. I do wanna point out that the poa adjustments

2063
02:35:46,435 --> 02:35:50,405
already went into effect in may, but are included here to show the

2064
02:35:50,605 --> 02:35:53,365
value of the increases in fiscal year 2027.

2065
02:36:01,545 --> 02:36:05,465
the reductions on this slide were presented and discussed at the may 18th workshop as

2066
02:36:05,735 --> 02:36:09,595
staff recommendations, they have now been incorporated into

2067
02:36:09,885 --> 02:36:12,965
the proposed budget you are seeing, uh, before you tonight.

2068
02:36:20,225 --> 02:36:23,965
in addition to the reductions listed on the previous slide, the reductions listed

2069
02:36:24,335 --> 02:36:27,805
below were identified and also incorporated into the proposed budget,

2070
02:36:29,555 --> 02:36:32,695
include an additional reduction of vehicle replacement charges, 337,000

2071
02:36:35,365 --> 02:36:37,885
reduction of legal services and city manager's office of 60,000,

2072
02:36:39,965 --> 02:36:43,685
reallocation of unfunded pension liability debt service on pension

2073
02:36:44,015 --> 02:36:47,145
obligation bonds, and general liability costs, 80,000

2074
02:36:48,785 --> 02:36:52,625
and a 40,000 reduction of overtime, governmental purposes, and

2075
02:36:52,865 --> 02:36:54,405
hourly wages in the mayor's office.

2076
02:37:02,665 --> 02:37:06,525
the slide shows the change in revenues from the fiscal year 27 preliminary budget

2077
02:37:06,805 --> 02:37:10,045
presented on may 18th to the budget being proposed tonight.

2078
02:37:11,335 --> 02:37:14,805
there weren't significant changes on the revenue side. The $73,000

2079
02:37:16,525 --> 02:37:20,445
increase you see here are for utility reimbursements and the new golf

2080
02:37:20,685 --> 02:37:22,535
course agreement in the community services department.

2081
02:37:28,715 --> 02:37:31,325
here we see the result of the budget reductions that we saw earlier.

2082
02:37:34,425 --> 02:37:38,165
the $900,000 in personnel services is from, uh, a

2083
02:37:38,525 --> 02:37:40,795
reduction from the frozen position and the general fund

2084
02:37:42,715 --> 02:37:46,485
$560,000 reduction in m and o, primarily from contractual

2085
02:37:47,085 --> 02:37:51,005
services, $468,000 from vehicle replacement

2086
02:37:51,725 --> 02:37:54,725
charge reductions and a 1.5 million

2087
02:37:56,005 --> 02:37:59,545
reduction in transfer out. If we drill down into that 1.5 million

2088
02:38:00,885 --> 02:38:04,745
reduction in transfer out, $1 million was from eliminating new

2089
02:38:04,965 --> 02:38:08,395
general fund cip funding, $280,000 from,

2090
02:38:09,225 --> 02:38:11,865
uh, nutrition center adjustments and $170,000

2091
02:38:13,315 --> 02:38:14,155
from library adjustments.

2092
02:38:18,905 --> 02:38:22,325
so when the fiscal year 27 preliminary budget was presented,

2093
02:38:23,175 --> 02:38:26,975
there was a $16.1 million deficit after

2094
02:38:27,325 --> 02:38:31,025
making the recommended budget reductions previously discussed. The

2095
02:38:31,405 --> 02:38:34,165
proposed budget now shows a $12.7 million deficit.

2096
02:38:42,865 --> 02:38:46,725
the slide shows the impact of projected deficit on the city's general fund unassigned fund

2097
02:38:47,205 --> 02:38:50,205
balance. The first three lines of each column are identical.

2098
02:38:52,335 --> 02:38:55,995
the estimated the estimated ending fund balance for fiscal year 25

2099
02:38:56,935 --> 02:39:00,715
was 23.4 million. This was presented to council back in

2100
02:39:01,315 --> 02:39:05,225
december. If we then subtract the fiscal year 26 projected

2101
02:39:05,835 --> 02:39:09,815
deficit of 10.3 million, that leaves an unassigned fund balance of

2102
02:39:10,315 --> 02:39:12,675
13.1 million going into fiscal year 27.

2103
02:39:17,265 --> 02:39:21,135
looking first at the preliminary column that was presented on may 18th deficit of

2104
02:39:21,355 --> 02:39:25,315
16.1 million would completely exhaust the city's general

2105
02:39:25,505 --> 02:39:28,915
fund unassigned fund balance and leave an additional $3 million

2106
02:39:29,835 --> 02:39:33,775
deficit to cover. Now,

2107
02:39:33,995 --> 02:39:37,635
over to the next column, to the budget that we are proposing tonight for your consideration,

2108
02:39:38,615 --> 02:39:42,075
the deficit has been reduced to 12.7 million, leaving an estimated

2109
02:39:42,635 --> 02:39:44,995
general fund unassigned fund balance of $500,000

2110
02:39:46,975 --> 02:39:48,555
at the end of fiscal year 2027.

2111
02:39:53,135 --> 02:39:56,875
in addition to the budget reductions that have already been identified, staff will

2112
02:39:57,275 --> 02:40:00,315
continue to pursue actions that can mitigate the city's structural deficit,

2113
02:40:01,415 --> 02:40:05,185
not only on the expenditure side, but on the revenue side

2114
02:40:05,475 --> 02:40:09,375
as well. Council provided

2115
02:40:09,495 --> 02:40:13,000
direction at the last budget workshop to continue exploring the revenue revenue

2116
02:40:13,595 --> 02:40:17,485
initiatives listed here, which are already in various stages of the

2117
02:40:17,685 --> 02:40:21,445
process. And with that, I'll

2118
02:40:21,725 --> 02:40:25,685
turn it back over to the city manager. Thank you,

2119
02:40:25,805 --> 02:40:29,475
paul. I I just want to acknowledge paul, for the heavy lift and just

2120
02:40:30,185 --> 02:40:33,985
the dedication and getting us to this point, keeping us on

2121
02:40:34,445 --> 02:40:37,585
schedules, collaboration with all the departments. Um,

2122
02:40:38,925 --> 02:40:42,605
excellent job, paul. I know there, there was a lot here in a short amount of time.

2123
02:40:43,905 --> 02:40:47,725
um, you know, I also want to acknowledge the public for, for their comments

2124
02:40:48,065 --> 02:40:51,625
and, and feedback and our city council for,

2125
02:40:52,305 --> 02:40:55,685
you know, their support, their direction and their guidance to this point.

2126
02:40:56,865 --> 02:41:00,345
um, you know, looking at where we were, um,

2127
02:41:01,055 --> 02:41:05,005
about 30 days ago and what we're proposing tonight,

2128
02:41:05,625 --> 02:41:09,295
um, you know, a lot of credit goes to city staff.

2129
02:41:09,905 --> 02:41:13,905
uh, our leadership team, working with their staff to, to

2130
02:41:14,125 --> 02:41:17,745
come up with a very strategic and thoughtful approach to

2131
02:41:19,255 --> 02:41:22,885
presenting roughly three and a half million dollars in, in savings

2132
02:41:23,265 --> 02:41:26,825
or budget reductions in a short amount of time. Um,

2133
02:41:27,745 --> 02:41:31,115
that's not easy. Um, it's a, it's a very good first step,

2134
02:41:32,265 --> 02:41:36,165
but obviously there's a lot more work that needs to be done in a very short amount

2135
02:41:36,445 --> 02:41:40,405
of time. Um, if we are going to get

2136
02:41:40,865 --> 02:41:43,965
the city, um, on a path to, to fiscal sustainability,

2137
02:41:45,745 --> 02:41:49,725
um, we're all gonna have to work together with the staff, with the council, with the

2138
02:41:49,885 --> 02:41:53,805
community, um, to make some difficult decisions over the next six to 12 months.

2139
02:41:55,145 --> 02:41:58,555
um, so in that vein, what we are proposing

2140
02:41:59,225 --> 02:42:02,865
is one, um, looking to the council to,

2141
02:42:03,385 --> 02:42:05,725
to adopt the budget for fiscal year 2027.

2142
02:42:07,505 --> 02:42:11,445
and then starting in august, uh, we were planning on scheduling a

2143
02:42:11,565 --> 02:42:15,345
series of strategic planning workshops with emphasis on

2144
02:42:16,375 --> 02:42:20,275
going through the process of priority based budgeting. Uh, which essentially will

2145
02:42:20,775 --> 02:42:24,565
allow us to take a deep dive at all the services and programs we offer

2146
02:42:24,845 --> 02:42:28,465
to the community, get a better understanding of those costs, the

2147
02:42:28,965 --> 02:42:32,885
benefits, and what those opportunities are to right size, a lot of

2148
02:42:33,005 --> 02:42:36,495
what we do to fit our budgets in addition to continuing

2149
02:42:37,165 --> 02:42:41,165
to, uh, advance these revenue initiatives both in the near term

2150
02:42:41,345 --> 02:42:44,545
and long term. With that, I'll turn over to,

2151
02:42:45,465 --> 02:42:47,965
uh, the city council for any questions. Thank you.

2152
02:42:53,635 --> 02:42:55,575
at this point, any questions towards the staff?

2153
02:42:58,005 --> 02:43:01,955
okay. Member bush. Yeah, so, um, thank you staff for

2154
02:43:02,175 --> 02:43:05,895
your work on this and, um, appreciate, um, the response

2155
02:43:06,195 --> 02:43:09,795
and, um, to our, uh, last action, uh, which was

2156
02:43:10,655 --> 02:43:14,645
updating the presentation and, and some of the numbers and just the, um, focusing

2157
02:43:14,805 --> 02:43:17,985
on more of the actuals instead of just the, the, the

2158
02:43:18,925 --> 02:43:22,505
previous year budget. So I appreciate that paul and city manager and staff for,

2159
02:43:22,945 --> 02:43:26,895
um, for hearing us and adjusting. Um, appreciate

2160
02:43:27,565 --> 02:43:31,565
us getting the full budget book. Um, I would like

2161
02:43:31,765 --> 02:43:35,765
to see that move forward, um, a lot sooner. I think

2162
02:43:36,075 --> 02:43:39,205
this is something that we should, I think more consistently,

2163
02:43:40,625 --> 02:43:43,825
um, review, keep track of, follow through on,

2164
02:43:44,785 --> 02:43:48,765
uh, mid-year reports, a look to this, to updating this, um, because

2165
02:43:49,695 --> 02:43:53,665
there, um, was even a couple of months ago, um,

2166
02:43:54,105 --> 02:43:57,705
the information that I asked for that I, uh,

2167
02:43:58,285 --> 02:44:02,245
I didn't get some of the line item info that is actually of, of reflected on

2168
02:44:02,405 --> 02:44:05,755
here. And I have some questions about them. Um, not necessarily

2169
02:44:07,195 --> 02:44:11,045
expecting answers tonight for each one, but that's why

2170
02:44:11,325 --> 02:44:15,005
I think that moving forward, we, we have to get this, um, we have to get this information

2171
02:44:15,445 --> 02:44:19,365
earlier because we have to have time to, uh, digest it. I didn't have time to look

2172
02:44:19,525 --> 02:44:23,325
over this budget book over the weekend, so I only started doing it yesterday. So that's just

2173
02:44:23,565 --> 02:44:27,245
not enough time to review this thick book. And the devil's

2174
02:44:27,645 --> 02:44:31,605
in the details, and this is a lot of good information, a lot of, um, but there's a

2175
02:44:31,685 --> 02:44:34,925
lot of things to follow up on. So I'll just, uh, say that. Um, and just overall,

2176
02:44:35,825 --> 02:44:39,285
we just need more transparency in this organization. I truly believe that we really need more transparency.

2177
02:44:40,185 --> 02:44:43,985
we need to be getting more of the information early on, need more accountability, and

2178
02:44:44,205 --> 02:44:47,885
I think we're moving towards that. So I, I see some progress here, but I think there's still,

2179
02:44:48,425 --> 02:44:52,325
uh, work to do. Um, I would also like to see, um, I

2180
02:44:52,445 --> 02:44:56,125
know city manager, you said that, um, you, you gave direction to the

2181
02:44:56,565 --> 02:45:00,365
directors to engage employees, um, at all level because I would, ideally, for me,

2182
02:45:01,085 --> 02:45:04,925
I would like to see, um, all, every single employee

2183
02:45:05,535 --> 02:45:09,385
asked about this, engaged on the budget, uh, for ideas for,

2184
02:45:10,025 --> 02:45:13,685
uh, not just on our expenditure side of it, but our revenue side of it, getting their ideas,

2185
02:45:14,105 --> 02:45:17,985
the, the, the boots on the ground, the folks, um, that are in entry level that, um,

2186
02:45:18,305 --> 02:45:22,015
do some of this day-to-day work. And I, um, there

2187
02:45:22,515 --> 02:45:26,365
have been a couple of employees who reported to me that that wasn't done. So again, these are

2188
02:45:26,525 --> 02:45:30,125
improvements that I think we really do need to, um, be an organization

2189
02:45:30,635 --> 02:45:34,605
that, that engages more of the employees and, uh, doesn't just go from the top down,

2190
02:45:34,805 --> 02:45:38,635
including us, top down, but really, uh, bottom up. So just things I think that, um, that

2191
02:45:38,925 --> 02:45:42,825
we should work towards that I, that they think we are, um, on this budget book. Um,

2192
02:45:43,145 --> 02:45:46,315
the biggest concern that I've seen so far, I'm concerned that we're undercounting

2193
02:45:47,345 --> 02:45:51,195
our revenues. And I'm gonna give some examples and I have some questions. So I'll start with page

2194
02:45:51,485 --> 02:45:55,285
58 of the budget book. And I'm looking at code 3,300, and that's

2195
02:45:55,665 --> 02:45:59,445
our investment earnings. This is something that I asked our, uh, staff about.

2196
02:46:00,225 --> 02:46:03,315
so, um, city manager, uh, uh, um, paul

2197
02:46:04,845 --> 02:46:08,545
brittany staff, can you go over a high level, um,

2198
02:46:09,345 --> 02:46:13,205
and whatever detail you can provide, the investment earnings, because one of the concerns

2199
02:46:13,645 --> 02:46:16,485
I see here that I have is, um, we have about 3.4 million,

2200
02:46:17,985 --> 02:46:21,905
um, from fy 25 is our unaudited. Actuals is

2201
02:46:22,125 --> 02:46:25,925
what we received in our investment earnings. The fy 26 adopted budget,

2202
02:46:26,385 --> 02:46:28,985
the cycle we're currently in is only 1.2 million.

2203
02:46:30,505 --> 02:46:34,425
I'm not clear what the actuals are, um, so far

2204
02:46:34,865 --> 02:46:38,265
on that or how that number factors into, um,

2205
02:46:39,265 --> 02:46:42,885
the powerpoint presentation we were given. But I don't, I think that number's

2206
02:46:43,405 --> 02:46:47,245
under counted based on what I know about the stock market and bonds. And there's

2207
02:46:47,725 --> 02:46:51,185
a lot, I don't know, um, not an expert in that, but, um,

2208
02:46:51,865 --> 02:46:55,845
but the stock market does drive a lot of our investments. And from this to go

2209
02:46:56,045 --> 02:47:00,045
down so much at 1.2 million, I like, I I just say, I wanna

2210
02:47:00,245 --> 02:47:03,965
make sure that we're act accurately reflecting that. So could, could you,

2211
02:47:04,305 --> 02:47:07,975
uh, staff, uh, talk about the investment earnings and maybe

2212
02:47:08,325 --> 02:47:10,805
what the actuals are for that? Let, let's see what, get something from them.

2213
02:47:15,025 --> 02:47:18,755
well, what I can tell you council member is that for investment earnings,

2214
02:47:19,265 --> 02:47:23,155
they can be very volatile and, and hard to predict. So if you were

2215
02:47:23,355 --> 02:47:27,195
to look, you know, even further back than the information you have, you, you'll

2216
02:47:27,595 --> 02:47:31,475
see some years where we didn't, there were no investment earnings.

2217
02:47:32,215 --> 02:47:36,075
uh, so what you don't want to do is, uh, count on those

2218
02:47:36,235 --> 02:47:40,225
revenues on a year where they don't come in. Uh, so for the budget, we tend

2219
02:47:40,515 --> 02:47:44,115
to be very conservative with, uh, with the investment earnings.

2220
02:47:44,835 --> 02:47:48,655
I understand that. So thank you for that. However, for

2221
02:47:49,075 --> 02:47:52,995
fy 26, we have some actuals for that. So what are the, to date

2222
02:47:53,385 --> 02:47:56,275
actuals that we have, that staff has for code 3,300?

2223
02:47:57,615 --> 02:48:01,465
so what are the date actuals? So I'm talking about july

2224
02:48:01,775 --> 02:48:03,725
of 2025 to march 31st,

2225
02:48:06,015 --> 02:48:09,915
um, almost april of 2026. What is that number?

2226
02:48:10,535 --> 02:48:14,355
the actuals so far? I would, I would have to get that number. Okay. Uh, that's fine. So

2227
02:48:14,555 --> 02:48:18,215
if we can find that out, uh, please. Uh, I appreciate that because that's

2228
02:48:18,635 --> 02:48:22,595
important. That should automatically be built into this, the way

2229
02:48:22,915 --> 02:48:26,715
I see it, unless those revenues are tied up some way.

2230
02:48:26,935 --> 02:48:30,935
so I just need more clarification. I think we need more clarification on that. Um,

2231
02:48:31,255 --> 02:48:34,825
33 1 4, um, uh, rental land,

2232
02:48:35,775 --> 02:48:39,755
um, is there, is the rental land, so I see 988,000

2233
02:48:40,835 --> 02:48:44,775
and then 900,000 for the year after that. Um,

2234
02:48:45,115 --> 02:48:48,995
I actually don't have a question, but I think I just wanna highlight that that is an area,

2235
02:48:49,775 --> 02:48:53,695
um, that I think we can get more revenue potential this year in the workshop. Uh,

2236
02:48:53,915 --> 02:48:57,775
the workshops we do is the rental land. Um, 3, 3, 1 7 is

2237
02:48:57,995 --> 02:49:01,665
the rental las palmas golf course. So I see the actuals,

2238
02:49:02,155 --> 02:49:05,955
or excuse me, the adopted fy 26 was 143,000. But again,

2239
02:49:06,775 --> 02:49:10,285
um, the actual, I'm not sure that this is reflected

2240
02:49:10,905 --> 02:49:13,685
of the actuals because the previous year was 217,000,

2241
02:49:15,545 --> 02:49:19,125
so I don't think it makes sense that that would've dropped so much.

2242
02:49:20,065 --> 02:49:22,715
so do we. Um, and then they see the next year,

2243
02:49:24,105 --> 02:49:28,005
um, for the proposed fy 27 budget is 269,000. So just

2244
02:49:28,165 --> 02:49:32,115
for clarification, that 269,000 number that I see, code

2245
02:49:32,405 --> 02:49:36,275
33 1 7, page 58, that

2246
02:49:36,945 --> 02:49:40,845
was updated then. Correct? Um, because I,

2247
02:49:41,085 --> 02:49:45,085
I, I think we, um, had updated as, as you, I think

2248
02:49:45,205 --> 02:49:48,925
you said earlier that we updated the golf course numbers because we just renewed

2249
02:49:49,365 --> 02:49:51,605
their, their lease with, um, with new terms

2250
02:49:56,275 --> 02:50:00,035
age 58, 100 general funds. And it's under the, um,

2251
02:50:01,445 --> 02:50:03,755
fund revenue and expenditure detail.

2252
02:50:07,155 --> 02:50:10,335
and I'm sorry, council member, what was the object account number? Sure. 33 1 7.

2253
02:50:11,955 --> 02:50:15,955
so, uh, so the key areas that I've asked about so far are 3,300, um,

2254
02:50:16,275 --> 02:50:20,195
33 14, and 33 17 is the

2255
02:50:20,415 --> 02:50:23,815
los palmas golf course. Uh, yes. That, that number 33 17

2256
02:50:25,065 --> 02:50:28,955
would reflect the, uh, the new agreement. So the two, so

2257
02:50:29,175 --> 02:50:32,775
the fy 27, the 269,000 that has been updated

2258
02:50:33,195 --> 02:50:36,995
to reflect the new agreement? That is correct. Okay. So has

2259
02:50:37,275 --> 02:50:40,615
the 143, so then is that 143,000

2260
02:50:42,075 --> 02:50:45,875
number accurate? Currently? Is that based on our

2261
02:50:46,485 --> 02:50:50,205
actuals? No, it is not. The 1 43 is what

2262
02:50:50,515 --> 02:50:54,155
was in the fy 26 adopted budget. Okay. So

2263
02:50:54,865 --> 02:50:58,665
again, if we can check that, that is another example. And just one line item where

2264
02:50:59,035 --> 02:51:02,835
I'm concerned that like all of this is starting to add up, all of these line items are

2265
02:51:03,215 --> 02:51:07,095
starting to add up that I'm seeing that I don't have details for. And so I'm worried that we're

2266
02:51:07,295 --> 02:51:11,175
under counting revenue. Um, I I, I'm okay with being conservative on some of the estimates,

2267
02:51:11,595 --> 02:51:15,525
but now we have updated data on this. So the actuals for these line

2268
02:51:15,815 --> 02:51:18,955
items is gonna be important. So need, need that. Um,

2269
02:51:19,865 --> 02:51:23,675
3, 4 69 overtime reimbursements. I see

2270
02:51:24,405 --> 02:51:27,935
that in, um, uh, fy 25,

2271
02:51:28,595 --> 02:51:32,255
the unaudited actuals is 1,492,000 155,

2272
02:51:33,635 --> 02:51:36,055
and our fy 26 budgeted is 660,000.

2273
02:51:37,835 --> 02:51:41,085
so that's, um, I, I think on this,

2274
02:51:42,295 --> 02:51:46,175
I, I think that number, I don't know that, that I, that that should be,

2275
02:51:47,365 --> 02:51:51,045
that should be u updated, I think because, um, we have actuals.

2276
02:51:51,855 --> 02:51:55,815
I think we already received the actuals that weigh over that, that exceed

2277
02:51:56,215 --> 02:51:59,755
that. So I'm just concerned that, that we're not, um,

2278
02:52:00,885 --> 02:52:04,565
that we're not basing it off the, the new budget off of the, the actuals

2279
02:52:05,125 --> 02:52:08,875
or that this number isn't updated. Yeah,

2280
02:52:09,165 --> 02:52:12,845
I can, I can speak to that. The, uh, reimburse overtime is primarily

2281
02:52:13,405 --> 02:52:16,925
in the fire department, and so there's really no way of predicting

2282
02:52:17,445 --> 02:52:21,395
how much they're gonna be called out to fires outside of the area.

2283
02:52:22,625 --> 02:52:26,175
and, um, also as that revenue would

2284
02:52:26,765 --> 02:52:30,205
increase, you'd have a corresponding increase on the expenditure side as well.

2285
02:52:30,865 --> 02:52:34,205
so it would net out, would net out to a zero. Got it.

2286
02:52:34,915 --> 02:52:38,685
okay. I, I appreciate that clarification. And then, um, and then I'll, I'll

2287
02:52:38,965 --> 02:52:42,945
step here, but because this is as far as it got, um, on this, but 35 41

2288
02:52:44,085 --> 02:52:47,555
plan review fire systems, the actuals

2289
02:52:48,145 --> 02:52:51,205
for fy 25, 110,000, we budgeted 65,000

2290
02:52:52,545 --> 02:52:56,485
and we budget again for fy 27, 60 5,000. So again, I just, um,

2291
02:52:57,355 --> 02:53:01,245
concerned about the, um, just understating the revenues

2292
02:53:01,765 --> 02:53:05,745
and how that's feeding into, um, our proposed budget. So,

2293
02:53:06,505 --> 02:53:10,405
um, there, I think there's still more to, to look at here, but I, I just

2294
02:53:10,565 --> 02:53:14,245
wanna learn more about these, um, these different line item codes, which departments

2295
02:53:14,795 --> 02:53:18,505
it's associated with, and, um, anything we

2296
02:53:18,805 --> 02:53:22,605
can do for, for savings on this. Like, and I didn't really get to code much

2297
02:53:22,845 --> 02:53:26,645
over the expenditure side, but on the expenditure side, I code 72 36

2298
02:53:27,935 --> 02:53:31,635
water, the audited actuals, um, or excuse me, the unaudited

2299
02:53:32,355 --> 02:53:34,925
actuals for fy 25 for water costs. Again, that's 72 36.

2300
02:53:36,745 --> 02:53:40,635
um, it was, uh, 197,000. Our adopted

2301
02:53:41,125 --> 02:53:43,685
budget has our, um, water cost of 275,000.

2302
02:53:45,565 --> 02:53:49,235
I do not believe that we've been, um, that we've gotten that info

2303
02:53:49,585 --> 02:53:53,085
on what our water expenditures are. And so we might be

2304
02:53:53,835 --> 02:53:57,625
overstating the expenditures on

2305
02:53:57,975 --> 02:54:01,845
water here based on what I see on the actuals for the past. So it's, these are

2306
02:54:02,045 --> 02:54:05,695
just, I think some, some things that, again, I, um, could,

2307
02:54:06,295 --> 02:54:09,985
could be wrong on this in terms of like, maybe, maybe we aren't

2308
02:54:10,405 --> 02:54:14,115
overstating. Maybe this is accurate, but I, I just think, um, that,

2309
02:54:14,435 --> 02:54:18,225
that this is a level of detail that, um, I'd like to have more follow up questions and, and

2310
02:54:18,635 --> 02:54:22,295
dive into other specific questions

2311
02:54:25,565 --> 02:54:29,345
in the moment. We do have a couple speakers, I'll call him up and then we can continue

2312
02:54:29,925 --> 02:54:33,835
mr. Thomas rech and then, uh, edward netto.

2313
02:54:42,745 --> 02:54:45,295
yeah, don't forget your checkbook. Uh, mr. Ike

2314
02:54:46,915 --> 02:54:46,915
.

2315
02:55:04,145 --> 02:55:07,665
all right. Alright.

2316
02:55:08,855 --> 02:55:12,615
the point I went up, I lost a piece of paper, but it

2317
02:55:12,865 --> 02:55:14,995
says there's a,

2318
02:55:16,905 --> 02:55:18,965
oh, here it is. The revenue is 140,124,480.

2319
02:55:23,865 --> 02:55:25,805
the expenditures are 150 3009,

2320
02:55:27,875 --> 02:55:31,845
997,047, the deficit

2321
02:55:32,385 --> 02:55:33,935
of 13 million 872, 567.

2322
02:55:37,305 --> 02:55:41,185
now, the question I have, do we have enough in the general fund to

2323
02:55:41,405 --> 02:55:45,025
cover this year and how many years can they recover it?

2324
02:55:45,785 --> 02:55:48,365
so that's, that's, that's the thing.

2325
02:55:49,825 --> 02:55:53,665
so bunch of directors can say,

2326
02:55:58,685 --> 02:56:02,615
enough, we have enough money in the bank this year. We have enough money in the bank next

2327
02:56:02,905 --> 02:56:06,625
year. Right. Edward

2328
02:56:07,215 --> 02:56:07,215
netto,

2329
02:56:14,255 --> 02:56:18,175
I got, I was prepared to blast you guys , but I'm not gonna do that.

2330
02:56:18,605 --> 02:56:22,575
okay. Uh, could I, could you change it to the slide if possible?

2331
02:56:22,775 --> 02:56:26,175
I could have somebody change it to the slide for the talk about the revenues and expenditures

2332
02:56:29,485 --> 02:56:30,435
stuff that drives me nuts.

2333
02:56:34,625 --> 02:56:37,025
hopefully can be a little time here.

2334
02:56:38,895 --> 02:56:41,795
um, one more, the, the slides that have expenditures and revenue.

2335
02:56:45,635 --> 02:56:49,495
hey, uh, they were getting close. They don't have a slide. They, let's see here.

2336
02:56:49,685 --> 02:56:53,655
it's right here. Were right here. This, this one here. Oh, there it is.

2337
02:56:53,735 --> 02:56:57,735
okay. There. It's okay. Okay. Could you, could you restart his time, mayor? I would just like to, I mean,

2338
02:56:57,835 --> 02:57:01,535
if, if this is the way we're going to allow public comment, I would just like it to be consistent.

2339
02:57:02,005 --> 02:57:05,855
it's very unusual to have a public commenter to, uh, direct our staff

2340
02:57:06,515 --> 02:57:10,245
to bring up individual slides, but just let's try to be consistent when

2341
02:57:10,535 --> 02:57:14,355
it comes to that dividual and commun, thank you so much. Okay. Please go

2342
02:57:14,575 --> 02:57:17,055
ahead. Okay. Mike , 70,

2343
02:57:18,615 --> 02:57:21,625
$78 million in revenue can go back down

2344
02:57:22,765 --> 02:57:25,485
to the expenditure side for fiscal year 2025.

2345
02:57:28,695 --> 02:57:31,195
that's a revenue. Go to the expenditure slide,

2346
02:57:34,145 --> 02:57:37,965
which doing the slides. Okay,

2347
02:57:38,925 --> 02:57:42,665
$78 million. I look at this, I'm saying,

2348
02:57:43,295 --> 02:57:43,905
where's the deficit

2349
02:57:47,445 --> 02:57:48,635
audit unaudited figure?

2350
02:57:52,725 --> 02:57:56,315
see that? You'd see the difference there. Mm-hmm . Yet on the other slide,

2351
02:57:57,205 --> 02:58:01,190
we have unaudited fi. Uh, we, we start off with the audited figures

2352
02:58:02,585 --> 02:58:05,605
and we have projected deficits that come down to the $2.9 million.

2353
02:58:07,915 --> 02:58:11,345
this is unaudited, I keep saying where our audited 2025

2354
02:58:12,475 --> 02:58:16,345
figures. So we know what you keep asking about the actuals. All

2355
02:58:16,565 --> 02:58:20,325
these actuals would be there if you had that audit

2356
02:58:20,825 --> 02:58:24,725
report. Hopefully. Okay. Am I

2357
02:58:24,845 --> 02:58:28,525
getting, are you guys getting catching onto this? You sort of look at it and

2358
02:58:28,875 --> 02:58:32,065
have a question, you know, where, where are we going with this? So,

2359
02:58:33,665 --> 02:58:37,405
you know, on the one hand I look at this, I say, well,

2360
02:58:37,875 --> 02:58:41,765
good grief, you know, we're pretty close on audited figures. And then

2361
02:58:41,965 --> 02:58:45,665
I see another slide that says, we're off, you know, 12 million, uh, $10 million,

2362
02:58:46,665 --> 02:58:50,565
2000, 26, 20, uh, 25. We don't have the audited

2363
02:58:50,925 --> 02:58:54,885
figures. We, so I'm really confused. I mean, looking

2364
02:58:55,265 --> 02:58:59,005
at it in, in the overall level, you know,

2365
02:58:59,385 --> 02:59:03,095
it seems a little confusing. You getting into the detail level makes

2366
02:59:03,445 --> 02:59:07,315
it even more confusing because I can see that you're asking about actuals

2367
02:59:08,665 --> 02:59:12,425
for what year and then comparing them to what the budget years are.

2368
02:59:13,065 --> 02:59:17,045
and I can hear the confusion. I just like to hear it be consistent

2369
02:59:17,785 --> 02:59:21,495
and hopefully, uh, make sense

2370
02:59:21,845 --> 02:59:25,845
of what's seen it on the, um, on the, on the, on the high level

2371
02:59:26,115 --> 02:59:29,995
side. Before we get into the detail side, uh, that's my com comment. Hopefully

2372
02:59:30,605 --> 02:59:32,525
that was helpful. Yep. Thank you.

2373
02:59:34,965 --> 02:59:37,535
okay. Back to the matter at hand

2374
02:59:39,435 --> 02:59:39,435
and

2375
02:59:43,545 --> 02:59:47,145
member yamani. Thank you, mayor. Um, so

2376
02:59:47,805 --> 02:59:51,045
I am grateful for city manager for leading,

2377
02:59:51,945 --> 02:59:55,425
um, to provide us this report. I am, um,

2378
02:59:57,045 --> 03:00:00,875
I, I appreciate, um, how directors have streamlined

2379
03:00:01,835 --> 03:00:04,855
some of your, uh, department budgets. I understand

2380
03:00:05,875 --> 03:00:09,805
that this is a living document and you see projected numbers.

2381
03:00:10,785 --> 03:00:14,645
you can see an audited for 24 and 25, you know, mean even

2382
03:00:14,905 --> 03:00:18,825
if it's an audited, you know, I mean, we, we will see the correct, the,

2383
03:00:19,065 --> 03:00:22,995
the right numbers close to those numbers. And this

2384
03:00:23,285 --> 03:00:26,355
26 you'll already see. There's also projected,

2385
03:00:27,465 --> 03:00:31,145
as of you, I mean, to, to uh, complete our,

2386
03:00:31,785 --> 03:00:35,625
um, fiscal year. But you can already see, um,

2387
03:00:36,305 --> 03:00:39,945
as of the last quarter of 26, um,

2388
03:00:40,755 --> 03:00:44,205
there's the, uh, unaudited actuals and you added a projected.

2389
03:00:44,985 --> 03:00:48,005
so these are projected numbers, and of course, we have to project 2027.

2390
03:00:49,705 --> 03:00:52,945
um, what with the addition of our,

2391
03:00:53,905 --> 03:00:57,625
um, um, mea, you know, I mean the, the,

2392
03:00:58,225 --> 03:01:02,185
the personnel, um, um, decision that we have to, to

2393
03:01:02,405 --> 03:01:06,325
have to, uh, provide to our workforce, not only to our workforce,

2394
03:01:06,785 --> 03:01:10,725
but for everybody because, um, you know, I mean,

2395
03:01:11,025 --> 03:01:14,805
it, it, it's the right thing to do, right? For us to take care

2396
03:01:15,045 --> 03:01:18,875
of our staff and for the staff to take care of the people that

2397
03:01:19,165 --> 03:01:23,115
we pledge to serve. So, um, these numbers are all projected,

2398
03:01:24,185 --> 03:01:27,925
um, come with the revenue, um, program that the staff

2399
03:01:28,305 --> 03:01:32,065
had brought before us. I'm very confident that, um,

2400
03:01:32,425 --> 03:01:35,855
you know, mean we will get to the closest numbers. Again,

2401
03:01:36,575 --> 03:01:40,575
these are good initiatives that we, that we can work on. And I asked

2402
03:01:40,995 --> 03:01:44,635
city manager, I wanted 12 months. I wanted zero

2403
03:01:45,025 --> 03:01:48,685
to 12 months, and then report at the first quarter of a fiscal year 27.

2404
03:01:49,585 --> 03:01:53,385
so we can see our numbers. So of course we have to project, you

2405
03:01:53,605 --> 03:01:57,425
know, I mean, we have debt service, we have all this, um, you nomine, um,

2406
03:01:58,125 --> 03:02:02,005
expenses that we have to fulfill. Um, so, um, I,

2407
03:02:02,285 --> 03:02:06,225
I, I am, um, you noman, I in the, uh, in

2408
03:02:06,445 --> 03:02:10,385
the revenue initiative that you have presented city manager, um,

2409
03:02:10,905 --> 03:02:14,425
as, as we have, um, um, done our,

2410
03:02:15,025 --> 03:02:19,025
um, our, uh, briefing, you know, I mean, I asked for two

2411
03:02:19,245 --> 03:02:22,505
things, right? Focused on two things. Our, um,

2412
03:02:23,445 --> 03:02:27,345
msa with port to be consistent in the people who

2413
03:02:27,625 --> 03:02:30,945
sit in that room, in order for us to have that, um,

2414
03:02:31,915 --> 03:02:35,865
that, that, that, um, the, the, the, the,

2415
03:02:36,305 --> 03:02:39,885
the confidence and then the, the cons, the consistency of that relationship

2416
03:02:40,555 --> 03:02:44,465
between, you know, and the, the staff between the staff of

2417
03:02:44,685 --> 03:02:48,375
the city and the staff of the port. So, so then it'll

2418
03:02:48,725 --> 03:02:52,665
be clearer and the, they will have more. Um, you

2419
03:02:52,885 --> 03:02:56,725
know, I mean, they, they will have more answers to the presentation that we have

2420
03:02:56,925 --> 03:03:00,755
presented to them. And, um, the other one that I have,

2421
03:03:01,265 --> 03:03:05,065
um, added is to look into the essential services for,

2422
03:03:05,545 --> 03:03:09,505
um, all the, the, um, um, um,

2423
03:03:10,615 --> 03:03:14,445
affordable housing, affordable, um, homes that we have,

2424
03:03:15,035 --> 03:03:18,985
that we provide for essential services. I, I think those are,

2425
03:03:20,025 --> 03:03:23,365
it, it is already here. It's, you know, we are providing them service.

2426
03:03:24,265 --> 03:03:28,125
um, I believe that those are faster for us to recoup

2427
03:03:28,515 --> 03:03:31,205
cost recovery that we call, you know, I mean,

2428
03:03:32,945 --> 03:03:36,905
pd go there, you know, I mean, I, I requested for just a, uh,

2429
03:03:37,465 --> 03:03:41,395
an initial report from the chief and I receive a report through the city

2430
03:03:41,685 --> 03:03:45,645
manager, and I ask, can we monetize that? So these are the

2431
03:03:45,805 --> 03:03:49,665
things that, um, that we can, um, recover based on

2432
03:03:50,065 --> 03:03:53,905
you, I mean, the services that we provide. So, um, you

2433
03:03:54,125 --> 03:03:58,045
know, I mean, I will, I think I, I believe that I

2434
03:03:58,165 --> 03:04:02,045
can work with this budget that you all have presented. I am grateful.

2435
03:04:02,685 --> 03:04:06,515
I understand this is a living document, and there are projections

2436
03:04:07,265 --> 03:04:10,735
and projections that we are going to see. Those are numbers, right?

2437
03:04:11,545 --> 03:04:15,415
um, however, with the revenue that we are projecting

2438
03:04:16,145 --> 03:04:20,005
to, that will come to the, you know, come within, um, the city.

2439
03:04:20,425 --> 03:04:24,245
uh, there are lots of resources that we have that are now

2440
03:04:24,445 --> 03:04:28,245
being looked at being revisited. And so, uh, we can

2441
03:04:28,885 --> 03:04:32,525
recoup some, uh, cost recovery there. Um, I think I, I have

2442
03:04:32,925 --> 03:04:36,625
a very good conversation through the city manager with our

2443
03:04:37,075 --> 03:04:40,905
finance director, and, um, she understands, um,

2444
03:04:41,355 --> 03:04:45,165
with the, with her team, uh, in the finance department what we

2445
03:04:45,365 --> 03:04:49,325
need to streamline more, um, and, and the things that we need to double

2446
03:04:49,735 --> 03:04:53,625
check and see those numbers to be tighter. So, um,

2447
03:04:54,685 --> 03:04:58,685
I, I, I think I will, uh, support this, uh, for the sake of us moving

2448
03:04:59,045 --> 03:05:02,925
forward. And we are going to be asked the five responsible party,

2449
03:05:03,465 --> 03:05:07,395
uh, on this daes to be more diligent in how we move forward with

2450
03:05:07,685 --> 03:05:11,045
this projections that they are presenting to us today. Thank you,

2451
03:05:13,775 --> 03:05:17,695
member rodriguez. Thank you, ms. Mayor. Thank you so much to, uh, uh,

2452
03:05:17,915 --> 03:05:21,835
for community for reaching out on this particular item. Thank you to staff for working

2453
03:05:22,095 --> 03:05:25,955
on it and having additional budget discussions with me and providing me, uh, numerous,

2454
03:05:26,455 --> 03:05:29,515
um, uh, briefings and, and discussions. Very much appreciated.

2455
03:05:30,615 --> 03:05:34,515
um, and I agree with my colleagues. This is a living document. I look very much look

2456
03:05:34,715 --> 03:05:38,355
forward to having our staff and our, uh, touching base with our city manager

2457
03:05:39,135 --> 03:05:42,995
on a monthly basis to make sure that we anticipate on not just

2458
03:05:43,155 --> 03:05:46,875
projected revenues, but expenditures and make sure that we keep as expenditures

2459
03:05:47,595 --> 03:05:51,555
as low as possible. Um, and also looking forward to the

2460
03:05:51,635 --> 03:05:55,595
future, we have a lot of, um, opportunities ahead of us. We're gonna

2461
03:05:55,715 --> 03:05:59,445
have ongoing discussions about the business license tax reform, uh, about

2462
03:05:59,795 --> 03:06:03,595
the short term rental ordinance, which is going to be applicable soon enough, and about,

2463
03:06:03,895 --> 03:06:07,675
uh, digital billboard expansion, as well as other revenue generating opportunities.

2464
03:06:08,615 --> 03:06:12,525
so I, I very much appreciate it. The only, um, issue,

2465
03:06:12,895 --> 03:06:16,735
and I think this is no surprise, I will continue to bring up, you

2466
03:06:16,955 --> 03:06:20,415
know, we just went through a discussion or a, um, update about our,

2467
03:06:21,095 --> 03:06:25,095
uh, uh, investment reports, which are, uh,

2468
03:06:25,935 --> 03:06:29,775
nearly, uh, 98 million or so as of last december. And

2469
03:06:29,995 --> 03:06:33,815
I know those are fluctuating at all times. But, um, so

2470
03:06:34,035 --> 03:06:37,915
I, I'm constantly juggling between, you know, um, uh, making

2471
03:06:38,235 --> 03:06:41,955
sure that we have a, a balanced budget year to year so that our reserves are healthy,

2472
03:06:42,495 --> 03:06:46,435
and also the fact that the reserves are indeed healthy, right? So we

2473
03:06:46,595 --> 03:06:50,295
must maintain those reserves. Um, and at the same time, uh,

2474
03:06:50,785 --> 03:06:54,755
look out for our community in times of need. Um, a program

2475
03:06:55,065 --> 03:06:59,005
in particular that has to serve that purpose has been the nutrition center. So I have

2476
03:06:59,165 --> 03:07:03,075
been very vocal and outspoken about, um, stopping the reduction of the meal caps

2477
03:07:03,365 --> 03:07:06,325
from two 50 to two 200 that would cost the city $235,000.

2478
03:07:08,345 --> 03:07:12,165
um, I'm essentially, uh, look forward to adopting the budget

2479
03:07:12,545 --> 03:07:16,485
except for that portion of it, and making sure that the budget stays the

2480
03:07:16,605 --> 03:07:20,535
same as it is now, and it is not reduced by 235,000. Thank

2481
03:07:20,885 --> 03:07:24,385
you member.

2482
03:07:25,575 --> 03:07:29,365
thank you, mayor. Thank you to staff, uh, for all of the work.

2483
03:07:30,065 --> 03:07:33,985
um, we have, um, we

2484
03:07:34,205 --> 03:07:38,185
have, uh, arrived at the budget, right? So,

2485
03:07:38,505 --> 03:07:41,565
um, paul, I just have a question on slide 14.

2486
03:07:42,865 --> 03:07:46,845
um, the projected deficit for fiscal

2487
03:07:47,195 --> 03:07:51,105
year 27, um, you know, it

2488
03:07:51,325 --> 03:07:54,755
is, it is a positive thing. You know, it, it, it's good to see that

2489
03:07:55,915 --> 03:07:59,165
what we had, uh, a preliminary deficit of 16.13 million

2490
03:08:02,585 --> 03:08:06,425
now has been reduced, which is good. It's still a big deficit, but it did get

2491
03:08:06,645 --> 03:08:09,605
reduced from 16.13 million to 12.65 million.

2492
03:08:13,265 --> 03:08:16,845
so that, that big decrease is very helpful. And I appreciate

2493
03:08:17,495 --> 03:08:21,325
staff. That is all because of all of the reductions that staff were willing to make.

2494
03:08:21,825 --> 03:08:25,585
and I know it's a sacrifice. So I do appreciate that. Uh, my, my

2495
03:08:25,965 --> 03:08:29,005
question does have to do that deficit, the 12.6 million

2496
03:08:31,505 --> 03:08:35,205
of that, going back to slide nine,

2497
03:08:36,795 --> 03:08:40,435
uh, the cost of living adjustments that we

2498
03:08:40,935 --> 03:08:44,575
approved due to the bargaining that we did with our, uh, labor groups,

2499
03:08:45,915 --> 03:08:48,855
um, and then also confidential management and executive.

2500
03:08:50,275 --> 03:08:53,975
um, the cost of living adjustments for 27 equal two point

2501
03:08:54,475 --> 03:08:58,335
nearly five, 2.5 million, um, what is the

2502
03:08:58,535 --> 03:09:02,535
rest of that deficit is made up of? I know

2503
03:09:02,685 --> 03:09:06,405
part of it is the pension obligation, right? Well, well,

2504
03:09:06,755 --> 03:09:10,575
uh, just to clarify, the 2.5 million is for, for all funds. The general

2505
03:09:10,805 --> 03:09:14,495
fund portion is just, uh, the 1.9, almost 2 million

2506
03:09:14,955 --> 03:09:18,895
you see there. Uh, the rest of it is the increase in the unfunded

2507
03:09:19,415 --> 03:09:23,235
pension liability. Uh, there was a very large increase in

2508
03:09:23,615 --> 03:09:26,615
general liability, which shows up as part of personnel

2509
03:09:27,935 --> 03:09:31,875
services. Um, those are the two, those are the two

2510
03:09:32,305 --> 03:09:36,095
other driving factors in addition to the, uh, the pension general liability

2511
03:09:37,275 --> 03:09:41,175
2.5 for the cola adjustments is essentially

2512
03:09:41,775 --> 03:09:45,205
what made up the, that's, that's, that's the increase over

2513
03:09:46,285 --> 03:09:50,135
last year. Mm-hmm . Okay. And I could provide more details,

2514
03:09:50,565 --> 03:09:54,315
just thought I remember seeing it in in the past. Yeah, there was a slide in some

2515
03:09:54,605 --> 03:09:58,525
of our workshops. I remember seeing that info. It just wasn't in this slide deck.

2516
03:09:58,785 --> 03:10:02,565
uh, but I did wanna point out, um, uh, we remain

2517
03:10:03,005 --> 03:10:05,835
a very lean organization. You know, we still have

2518
03:10:07,045 --> 03:10:11,005
a lot of, um, just a lot that we're responsible for that

2519
03:10:11,245 --> 03:10:15,205
we have to pay for that. We have to, you know, remember

2520
03:10:15,285 --> 03:10:19,045
that it's gonna come up again next year. So, uh, in, you know, working

2521
03:10:19,555 --> 03:10:23,405
hard. And I, I'm so happy during the briefing that I had with, um, all of the

2522
03:10:23,845 --> 03:10:27,785
directors and then our, um, uh, city manager, mr. Steve mag

2523
03:10:28,745 --> 03:10:32,345
to hear that we are preparing for next year's

2524
03:10:32,765 --> 03:10:36,625
budget. Fiscal year 28, as early as august, um,

2525
03:10:37,345 --> 03:10:40,925
is going to be such an important task because it is going to be,

2526
03:10:41,505 --> 03:10:45,205
it is gonna be quite the chore. So thank you very much. You know, this is a difficult budget,

2527
03:10:45,665 --> 03:10:49,485
but, um, I'm glad that, um, we are gonna make it work

2528
03:10:49,705 --> 03:10:53,275
one way or another. We will make it work. I have a lot of faith in that. Thank you. Okay.

2529
03:10:53,785 --> 03:10:57,555
if, if I could, uh, a couple things. My understanding is what we're, what

2530
03:10:57,845 --> 03:11:01,125
I heard the city manager say that we would be, start looking in august

2531
03:11:01,865 --> 03:11:05,785
is still the 27th budget, not necessarily looking to next year, the

2532
03:11:06,005 --> 03:11:09,945
following year's budget, but saying that this budget is still needs, needs worked on,

2533
03:11:10,175 --> 03:11:14,045
right? So that this gets us through the, the state

2534
03:11:14,315 --> 03:11:17,485
requirement and everything. But then in august,

2535
03:11:18,665 --> 03:11:22,565
we got right back into this budget. Uh, uh, the other thing

2536
03:11:22,725 --> 03:11:26,705
is, if I could, the one other deal is if you'll take a look on

2537
03:11:26,925 --> 03:11:30,805
that same page that you were looking at, the, the deficit

2538
03:11:32,425 --> 03:11:36,325
at for 26 was over $10 million that carries

2539
03:11:36,765 --> 03:11:40,525
over. That's 'cause those expenditures are still the same. And then you get the other

2540
03:11:40,865 --> 03:11:44,625
$2 million in just a loan for the, uh, um,

2541
03:11:45,545 --> 03:11:49,245
for the coal loan that takes you up to the 12, 12 million right there by itself.

2542
03:11:50,305 --> 03:11:54,225
and so it's, uh, um, so yeah,

2543
03:11:54,425 --> 03:11:58,425
so then that 12 million will carry on over to the

2544
03:11:58,505 --> 03:12:01,985
next year unless we do some changes. Okay. Uh,

2545
03:12:03,385 --> 03:12:07,245
member bush. Uh, so,

2546
03:12:07,605 --> 03:12:11,165
oh, appreciate the additional, um, information, um,

2547
03:12:11,645 --> 03:12:15,385
on, uh, this slide. And we did, um, have a discussion

2548
03:12:15,865 --> 03:12:19,045
at the council level about potentially, I'm looking at

2549
03:12:19,985 --> 03:12:23,695
freezing some of these salary groups. So really the only ones are management and executive.

2550
03:12:24,305 --> 03:12:27,845
and so I wanted to disclose, I did have a good conversation with, in my briefing on

2551
03:12:28,555 --> 03:12:32,185
staff, um, a about that and the concept

2552
03:12:32,845 --> 03:12:36,285
of holding or, or freezing, um, the

2553
03:12:37,345 --> 03:12:40,985
increases for the following year because we would get a savings from that. So, and what was,

2554
03:12:41,525 --> 03:12:45,265
uh, told to me through the city manager and the directors that that would, you know, potentially

2555
03:12:45,705 --> 03:12:49,445
impact morale and, um, and just, um,

2556
03:12:49,735 --> 03:12:53,255
some of the, uh, just their, their, their kind of, their

2557
03:12:53,845 --> 03:12:57,245
workload is already kind of expanded. And so I hear that

2558
03:12:58,305 --> 03:13:02,225
and I still do want to see more accountability,

2559
03:13:03,315 --> 03:13:07,205
more kind of goals, metrics, and I think some of that will come when we get a

2560
03:13:07,325 --> 03:13:11,205
new city manager in. And as the directors have complained, um, to me

2561
03:13:11,425 --> 03:13:15,325
and to others at council before that, there's been a lot of chaos in the organization. So I recognize

2562
03:13:15,485 --> 03:13:19,345
that. And as I've said, I take, uh, responsibility for that. Um, but,

2563
03:13:20,265 --> 03:13:24,245
um, you know, I I I'm just concerned that one of the items, for example, and

2564
03:13:24,445 --> 03:13:28,235
council member rodriguez, uh, brought this up, the nutrition center, like

2565
03:13:28,565 --> 03:13:31,875
I want, I, I want us to balance as an organization, cutting

2566
03:13:33,395 --> 03:13:37,365
food to our seniors and then increases

2567
03:13:37,825 --> 03:13:41,565
for some of the highest paid employees. Like, those are just balances, they're realities

2568
03:13:42,125 --> 03:13:45,945
that we have to have uncomfortable conversations about. Like the, all the budget is

2569
03:13:46,445 --> 03:13:50,085
about our choices. It's about, I mean, I did ask for information about,

2570
03:13:50,625 --> 03:13:54,305
you know, like our annuitants and, um, uh,

2571
03:13:54,755 --> 03:13:58,695
proposing looking at early retirements to save money. So we're not discussing

2572
03:13:59,365 --> 03:14:03,285
much of that tonight. I, I think if we were in a better position that should have been talked

2573
03:14:03,645 --> 03:14:07,645
about before. So I just say that to emphasize that we really need tom move

2574
03:14:07,925 --> 03:14:11,685
forward with some of those creative and tough decisions. Like we talked about

2575
03:14:12,175 --> 03:14:16,145
increasing, um, some of the, in, in my briefing we talked about, um,

2576
03:14:16,415 --> 03:14:19,785
increasing fees for some of our, um,

2577
03:14:20,465 --> 03:14:24,345
uh, resident community, um, programs and services like the

2578
03:14:24,565 --> 03:14:28,205
pool and, and stuff like that. So like I, I'm open to those things to increasing

2579
03:14:28,595 --> 03:14:32,485
even some of the user fees that are really, um, that I

2580
03:14:32,605 --> 03:14:36,605
think are, are really low. Maybe too low, but wanna see that. Another thing

2581
03:14:36,765 --> 03:14:40,745
I forgot to, um, bring up is on part-time, the

2582
03:14:40,965 --> 03:14:44,905
part-time, uh, salaries and, and

2583
03:14:45,235 --> 03:14:49,035
personnel, it's, it's still hard to see where that is reflected

2584
03:14:49,785 --> 03:14:53,365
in the budget book and particular, uh, particularly it's, um,

2585
03:14:54,685 --> 03:14:58,585
staffing levels by fund page 25, and then the

2586
03:14:58,805 --> 03:15:02,685
staffing levels by department, which is page 35. I,

2587
03:15:02,965 --> 03:15:06,435
I am, I'm just not understanding how our part-time employees are reflected

2588
03:15:07,345 --> 03:15:11,125
in here. So I don't know whether they're included in the fte full-time equivalent,

2589
03:15:12,145 --> 03:15:15,845
um, as part of this number. And if they are, then I think they should be broken

2590
03:15:16,185 --> 03:15:19,525
out. So it's more clear to us, like what part, how many part-timers

2591
03:15:20,345 --> 03:15:23,005
we have versus the full-timers, et cetera.

2592
03:15:24,505 --> 03:15:28,145
I can address that. Council member, uh, the staffing

2593
03:15:28,705 --> 03:15:32,585
reports that you see with the fte count, those represent permanent

2594
03:15:32,855 --> 03:15:36,725
benefited employees or positions, fte. Now,

2595
03:15:37,055 --> 03:15:40,505
your hourly non benefitted employees, those are budgeted

2596
03:15:41,165 --> 03:15:45,005
as a lump sum in each department. Right. Or departments that have hourly

2597
03:15:45,665 --> 03:15:48,085
employees under object code, I think 6 0 0 5.

2598
03:15:49,905 --> 03:15:53,425
so those are just budgeted as a, as a lump sum dollar amount.

2599
03:15:54,425 --> 03:15:58,365
and the expectation is that departments manage to that budget,

2600
03:15:59,145 --> 03:16:02,805
uh, regardless of what, uh, hourly positions they're using

2601
03:16:03,905 --> 03:16:07,725
to, uh, you know, to, to, uh, supplement

2602
03:16:08,365 --> 03:16:12,165
their permanent staff. Well, well lump

2603
03:16:12,425 --> 03:16:15,715
sum, it's, it's hard for us to glean from that. How many personnel,

2604
03:16:16,595 --> 03:16:20,435
what is their rate, what, you know, um, hours kind

2605
03:16:20,725 --> 03:16:24,585
of, they're working or, you know, maybe it's seasonal. So for example, um,

2606
03:16:25,075 --> 03:16:29,005
some of our community programs, services, some of it's after school programs. So all that, I, I

2607
03:16:29,125 --> 03:16:33,005
would just like to see more broken out, um, in here because

2608
03:16:33,205 --> 03:16:37,045
it's not, it's, it's, uh, not clear. So that's, that's all the comments

2609
03:16:37,565 --> 03:16:41,545
I have. Okay. Um, one thing I'm gonna go back and

2610
03:16:41,765 --> 03:16:45,605
if I can ask mr. Chenko, in your report that you gave to

2611
03:16:45,805 --> 03:16:49,805
us a couple meetings ago, uh, concerning the nutrition

2612
03:16:50,165 --> 03:16:53,245
center, the understanding I had from that is that we were not gonna be cutting,

2613
03:16:54,225 --> 03:16:58,165
uh, food amounts or the number of food to our senior,

2614
03:16:59,305 --> 03:17:03,005
uh, residents, but that we were gonna limit

2615
03:17:03,345 --> 03:17:07,325
the number. And so national city residents would get the first

2616
03:17:07,445 --> 03:17:11,235
grouping of that. And then it's just the idea of us providing

2617
03:17:11,845 --> 03:17:15,485
food for all the other cities too, I think was, am I saying that right?

2618
03:17:15,865 --> 03:17:19,325
uh, yes sir. You're correct. Um, a couple months back, um, we had to,

2619
03:17:19,905 --> 03:17:23,795
um, do a reservation system per the county. Um, they

2620
03:17:24,085 --> 03:17:28,085
said that, you know, this is the norm and all the other nutrition centers, um, because

2621
03:17:28,455 --> 03:17:32,165
we're like cooking, like on the spot, we were just providing as many as meals

2622
03:17:32,505 --> 03:17:36,405
as we could for the day. Other nutrition centers bring their food in, so they have to have

2623
03:17:36,605 --> 03:17:40,405
a, a reservation system, certain count, but the county said they didn't like

2624
03:17:40,665 --> 03:17:44,465
the insecurity of seniors just showing up, not knowing if they were gonna get a meal for the day and they'd

2625
03:17:44,885 --> 03:17:48,585
get there really early. So this, this reservation system was a long time coming mm-hmm

2626
03:17:49,045 --> 03:17:52,985
. Um, and so we, we found a good, uh, number was, um,

2627
03:17:53,205 --> 03:17:57,205
250, um, because that, that seemed to be like what we were kind of averaging.

2628
03:17:57,945 --> 03:18:01,785
um, but now that we've kind of noticed that it, the reservation system was

2629
03:18:02,005 --> 03:18:05,825
great because, uh, I think just getting some direction from you all of, of

2630
03:18:06,045 --> 03:18:09,685
trying to prioritize residents. 'cause a lot of non-residents were coming and then the

2631
03:18:10,325 --> 03:18:13,885
residents would get there and then we'd be, we'd be outta food. Um, so now we've given them

2632
03:18:14,445 --> 03:18:18,365
priority res, um, reservations and so now we've kind of noticed a little bit more,

2633
03:18:18,665 --> 03:18:22,475
um, residents coming 'cause they know they can get in. So now we're really confident

2634
03:18:23,115 --> 03:18:26,985
that 150 is what we're pretty solid on averaging. So we thought if

2635
03:18:27,205 --> 03:18:30,805
we had some room to grow, maybe 200 could be what we could get up to.

2636
03:18:31,345 --> 03:18:35,285
um, and if, if that number seems to go up even more because it just keeps getting more successful,

2637
03:18:35,965 --> 03:18:39,285
I think we could come back to the budget adjustment if we wanted to, to bump it up again.

2638
03:18:40,105 --> 03:18:43,965
um, this is kind of conservative number by saying we, you know,

2639
03:18:44,385 --> 03:18:47,875
um, can get to 2 35 to, to serve 200 seniors.

2640
03:18:48,855 --> 03:18:52,425
we're thinking just because we see food costs that just keep going up. Um,

2641
03:18:53,785 --> 03:18:57,605
so we think 200 would be a, a good number and we're really looking

2642
03:18:58,065 --> 03:19:01,905
at the county would help us with, with getting the other non-residents to

2643
03:19:02,145 --> 03:19:06,045
the nearby nutrition centers, um, so that it wouldn't be, you know, turning anyone away at all.

2644
03:19:06,795 --> 03:19:10,605
okay. Great. Okay. Appreciate that. Yes, sir. Yeah, I, you know, what we've

2645
03:19:10,885 --> 03:19:14,785
got before us is a lot of work has went in by a lot of people to

2646
03:19:15,025 --> 03:19:19,005
try to get us to this point is it's not, it's always easier to add to a budget than it is to

2647
03:19:19,125 --> 03:19:22,945
take away from a budget. It's just the reality. Um, and so

2648
03:19:23,365 --> 03:19:27,255
I appreciate all the work that's been done, to be honest with you at this stage of the game, until

2649
03:19:27,605 --> 03:19:30,845
we do a deeper dive, I would not be for adding anything

2650
03:19:31,705 --> 03:19:34,905
to what has been proposed to us at this stage of the game. Um,

2651
03:19:35,745 --> 03:19:39,365
but then we can come back in august, uh, if we do

2652
03:19:40,075 --> 03:19:43,645
approve this tonight, come back in august and start work on this

2653
03:19:44,085 --> 03:19:47,955
document again, both on the expenditure and also

2654
03:19:48,245 --> 03:19:51,685
on the revenue side, and, uh, to see what, you know,

2655
03:19:52,475 --> 03:19:55,435
what kind of magic we can we start working. 'cause we got to, otherwise,

2656
03:19:56,825 --> 03:20:00,725
you know, we can survive this year. You know, that was, he's not here anymore,

2657
03:20:01,105 --> 03:20:05,085
but, uh, uh, uh, you know, he asked the question, do we have enough for this

2658
03:20:05,165 --> 03:20:09,065
year? Yeah, we got enough for this year, uh, next year and

2659
03:20:09,285 --> 03:20:13,235
the following year starts to be major problem if we don't address

2660
03:20:13,725 --> 03:20:17,725
it now. And, uh, so I think that's, there's a lot

2661
03:20:17,805 --> 03:20:21,765
of work still ahead of us, even if we approve this and this up

2662
03:20:21,965 --> 03:20:25,565
to the state and says, here's our budget. There's still a lot of work on this budget

2663
03:20:26,035 --> 03:20:28,835
that we need to do during this, uh, this fiscal year.

2664
03:20:31,395 --> 03:20:35,055
so unless there's any other, uh, question,

2665
03:20:35,475 --> 03:20:38,715
um, maybe juan, do you have something? Yes. Um, you know, um,

2666
03:20:39,875 --> 03:20:43,715
during our, um, briefing with city manager, he really,

2667
03:20:44,435 --> 03:20:48,095
um, committed to a, uh, comprehensive revisiting mm-hmm . Budget

2668
03:20:48,675 --> 03:20:52,285
per department. And, uh, you know, I mean, I had, um, pointed

2669
03:20:52,875 --> 03:20:56,745
out to him, you know, I mean the, uh, overtime of, uh, 3.1

2670
03:20:57,835 --> 03:21:01,685
and he said he's gonna really look into that. So then our food

2671
03:21:02,035 --> 03:21:05,995
for our seniors in community services, um, will not

2672
03:21:06,275 --> 03:21:10,175
be, um, infringed or will not, um, be sacrificed.

2673
03:21:10,955 --> 03:21:14,725
um, so I, I know that there are a lot of items here

2674
03:21:15,045 --> 03:21:18,725
that, um, you know, I mean, city manager will hand hold,

2675
03:21:19,235 --> 03:21:22,695
um, the, whoever is incoming or onboarding city manager

2676
03:21:23,595 --> 03:21:27,335
to revisit all this and, and, um, you know, I mean, have

2677
03:21:27,655 --> 03:21:31,295
a, a comprehensive look, um, after, you know, during

2678
03:21:31,725 --> 03:21:35,575
this, um, dark, dark month that we have. Thank you, mayor.

2679
03:21:36,345 --> 03:21:39,815
thank you. Uh, member rodriguez. Thank you, mayor.

2680
03:21:40,835 --> 03:21:44,475
um, I appreciate all the work. Um,

2681
03:21:45,995 --> 03:21:49,685
sometimes we, we, I mean the budget is a living document and we're talking about,

2682
03:21:50,825 --> 03:21:54,495
you know, 80 million plus dollars, right? So to get into the weeds

2683
03:21:54,845 --> 03:21:58,765
of now talking about $235,000 in the grand scheme of things,

2684
03:21:58,995 --> 03:22:02,825
it's not a insurmountable amount, right? And,

2685
03:22:03,225 --> 03:22:07,075
and so it's important to keep that in perspective. Um, it's also

2686
03:22:07,365 --> 03:22:11,325
important and, um, I, I know I've brought this up publicly,

2687
03:22:11,485 --> 03:22:15,205
but I've also brought this up on, uh, with, with, uh, discussions

2688
03:22:15,725 --> 03:22:19,325
with staff. I mean, we failed to apply for a grant for the county

2689
03:22:20,945 --> 03:22:24,885
in order to fund the program. The recommendations are then to cut the

2690
03:22:25,085 --> 03:22:28,925
program or parts of it. And we've also provided

2691
03:22:29,285 --> 03:22:32,685
salaries to our highest paid individuals in our city. And so

2692
03:22:34,085 --> 03:22:37,805
I think, I think we have to think through where we are placing our priorities.

2693
03:22:38,705 --> 03:22:41,885
and again, $235,000 will not make or break us.

2694
03:22:42,905 --> 03:22:46,725
and the purpose of the county program is to provide food for needy individuals in our community.

2695
03:22:47,385 --> 03:22:51,365
and yeah, some might live one block away from the city, but they're still in

2696
03:22:51,485 --> 03:22:55,205
our community. And so I think, um, I think it's a, it's a matter of

2697
03:22:55,605 --> 03:22:59,425
priority and I think that there seems to be a, um,

2698
03:23:00,825 --> 03:23:04,165
um, uh, you know, ongoing effort to try to,

2699
03:23:04,865 --> 03:23:08,805
uh, reduce the program, not just the funding, but to privatize it. This has been

2700
03:23:08,925 --> 03:23:12,845
going on for a long time. Um, and this seems to be a continuation

2701
03:23:13,365 --> 03:23:17,305
of that. And so I, I, you know, it, it's kind of a, it

2702
03:23:17,805 --> 03:23:21,565
strikes a, um, uh, a nerve with me,

2703
03:23:22,185 --> 03:23:25,865
uh, seen as we, we might be able to be able to

2704
03:23:26,285 --> 03:23:30,065
continue the same services, yet the recommendations are not that, and,

2705
03:23:30,385 --> 03:23:34,065
and it is deeply frustrating to say the least. And so, um,

2706
03:23:35,325 --> 03:23:38,905
I mean, just by two comments, I don't know if we're ready to make a motion at some point, but,

2707
03:23:39,785 --> 03:23:43,665
uh, I would like to hear from my other colleagues as well. Okay. Any

2708
03:23:43,885 --> 03:23:47,565
other comments? Just that I share that

2709
03:23:48,005 --> 03:23:51,915
frustration, especially on the, I, you know, staff ex explain

2710
03:23:52,405 --> 03:23:55,205
why we didn't apply for the grant and it's psych that's just

2711
03:23:57,065 --> 03:24:00,725
not acceptable moving forward. We shouldn't leave money on the table.

2712
03:24:01,335 --> 03:24:05,115
let's just, um, be better not pointing the fingers. It's just be better. Okay.

2713
03:24:06,755 --> 03:24:10,205
alright. With that then, do I have a motion?

2714
03:24:15,375 --> 03:24:18,795
I will make an motion. Sorry, go ahead. Sorry. Uh, move to,

2715
03:24:19,435 --> 03:24:22,675
um, approve the proposed budget and

2716
03:24:23,465 --> 03:24:26,415
we'll be looking at it more in august, so move to approve.

2717
03:24:27,815 --> 03:24:31,415
okay. We have a motion. I'll, I'll second the motion. Okay.

2718
03:24:31,965 --> 03:24:35,605
motion. And a second is the person, the maker of the motion, willing to,

2719
03:24:36,285 --> 03:24:40,205
um, uh, remove the, um, $235,000,

2720
03:24:42,485 --> 03:24:46,465
uh, suggested reduction for the meal program from two

2721
03:24:46,895 --> 03:24:50,285
50 to 200 for right now? Yes, I'm willing to do that. Thank you. I'm sorry, what now?

2722
03:24:51,125 --> 03:24:54,285
removing the, the meal reduction for the senior nutrition program.

2723
03:24:55,495 --> 03:24:59,445
thank you. Okay. We

2724
03:24:59,645 --> 03:25:03,205
have a motion and a second

2725
03:25:04,795 --> 03:25:08,785
council member. Uh, rodriguez, if you could push press the second button and

2726
03:25:09,005 --> 03:25:13,005
there a second. Thank you. I have a motion and a second. Um, speaking to the

2727
03:25:13,085 --> 03:25:16,205
motion, I will speak against it. I know we can start cherry picking and I know it's

2728
03:25:17,245 --> 03:25:20,545
election time and it's great to stand up for this thing. Um,

2729
03:25:21,305 --> 03:25:25,185
but I think staff has worked hard to do this. It's always easy to

2730
03:25:25,405 --> 03:25:29,405
say it's just $235,000 when it's somebody else's money.

2731
03:25:29,755 --> 03:25:33,405
it's not ours. Um, and at the same time,

2732
03:25:34,625 --> 03:25:38,525
we are not taking away from our residents and I think

2733
03:25:38,845 --> 03:25:42,765
that's what we have to look at here. I mean, we could do a lot of programs for the entire

2734
03:25:43,045 --> 03:25:46,845
county, but that's, we, we either have the obligation

2735
03:25:47,635 --> 03:25:51,565
even more so we do not have the funds to do that. So I would speak against that motion

2736
03:25:53,585 --> 03:25:57,025
and I would make a substitute motion that we would accept the,

2737
03:25:57,625 --> 03:26:01,005
um, this proposal as, as

2738
03:26:01,865 --> 03:26:05,845
accept motion. Mr. Chair. It was not amendment. No, that was no, we

2739
03:26:05,965 --> 03:26:08,765
just made the first motion that motion can do the motion

2740
03:26:10,065 --> 03:26:13,865
and I would make a motion that we accept, uh, this budget

2741
03:26:14,585 --> 03:26:18,535
as presented by staff and to be revisited, uh, after

2742
03:26:18,945 --> 03:26:21,955
the, uh, july break. Second. Okay.

2743
03:26:25,425 --> 03:26:28,685
whoops. May have a motion in a second.

2744
03:26:30,315 --> 03:26:33,905
okay. With that, uh,

2745
03:26:34,865 --> 03:26:38,005
we have a motion a second. This is on the substitute motion. Please vote.

2746
03:26:40,505 --> 03:26:44,485
motion fails by three to two vote. Okay. We go

2747
03:26:44,685 --> 03:26:48,515
back to the original motion. This is to

2748
03:26:48,935 --> 03:26:52,735
add $235,000 to the budget and

2749
03:26:52,955 --> 03:26:56,035
that has been presented to us. Please don't politicize it. It's not to add 235,000,

2750
03:26:57,135 --> 03:27:01,065
but, okay. Well that's, it's to the, what was proposed. It has two five

2751
03:27:01,355 --> 03:27:05,075
and, and I'm also open to looking at 235,000 where we can cut, if you're concerned

2752
03:27:05,475 --> 03:27:08,835
about that. Like which is a valid concern. Mm-hmm . But again, it's about priorities.

2753
03:27:09,515 --> 03:27:13,275
I agree with my colleague, council member rodriguez, and I know these are uncomfortable conversations,

2754
03:27:13,935 --> 03:27:17,835
but I've said it from the get go weighing priorities. I, they, I think we have

2755
03:27:18,015 --> 03:27:21,275
as an organization made mistakes and it is two 35,000.

2756
03:27:22,095 --> 03:27:26,035
I'm open to further cuts later, but I mean, for me, I'm just making a statement that I think this

2757
03:27:26,315 --> 03:27:30,155
needs to be done better and I don't think that, um, yeah, I

2758
03:27:30,355 --> 03:27:34,115
just think we can, uh, do better. Okay. We're back to the

2759
03:27:34,595 --> 03:27:38,565
original motion. How do we,

2760
03:27:40,535 --> 03:27:44,505
could you do your, uh, first and second? Okay. So the motion maker and

2761
03:27:44,785 --> 03:27:48,645
the second would have to okay. Put it in there. Okay. So that is

2762
03:27:49,035 --> 03:27:51,685
back to the original motion, which I say is to take

2763
03:27:53,065 --> 03:27:56,565
the proposed budget and we add back in 235,000 bucks

2764
03:27:57,185 --> 03:28:00,525
and also add that I'll, your point is valid about adding the 235,000.

2765
03:28:01,585 --> 03:28:05,005
so at the next, uh, meeting I can mm-hmm . Uh, also suggest,

2766
03:28:05,665 --> 03:28:09,245
um, cuts to balance off, um, that, um, additional expenditure.

2767
03:28:09,885 --> 03:28:12,565
I think that's a fair point. Alright. Okay. Please vote.

2768
03:28:15,465 --> 03:28:19,425
motion approved by four to one vote with mayor morrison. Voting

2769
03:28:19,945 --> 03:28:23,505
no. Okay. Alright. With that, uh,

2770
03:28:24,025 --> 03:28:27,845
do we have any other staff reports? Okay. We

2771
03:28:28,045 --> 03:28:31,885
do not, uh, with that then we go to council reports. We start down here on my left.

2772
03:28:32,825 --> 03:28:36,445
um, just, just thank you all for, uh, staff community members,

2773
03:28:37,105 --> 03:28:41,085
um, for being so engaged. We have gone through a very tumultuous few months

2774
03:28:41,785 --> 03:28:45,285
and thank you so much for, for sticking it through. We have another couple difficult

2775
03:28:45,885 --> 03:28:49,595
meetings mm-hmm . At the end of the month, but, uh, but thank you so much. Okay.

2776
03:28:50,945 --> 03:28:53,605
I'm grateful to all of you, city manager. Thank you.

2777
03:28:56,315 --> 03:29:00,285
okay. Uh, yeah, I'm grateful to staff. I also

2778
03:29:00,525 --> 03:29:04,465
wanna give a shout out to my colleagues. I think we've worked really well together in the last few

2779
03:29:04,685 --> 03:29:08,605
months and we've improved and yes, there's been chaos and there's been, there's always gonna be politics, but

2780
03:29:08,805 --> 03:29:12,535
I really think we have done a much better job. And I want to give special shout out to heidi

2781
03:29:12,885 --> 03:29:16,725
because heidi, as our city attorney, I do really from my heart believe that you've

2782
03:29:17,045 --> 03:29:20,845
really made an extra effort on that and kind of weighing some of our

2783
03:29:21,435 --> 03:29:25,405
personalities. So, and just bouncing what we're trying to do. Yes. We're, we can

2784
03:29:25,525 --> 03:29:29,425
be feisty, but it's 'cause we care because we love our community and you

2785
03:29:29,645 --> 03:29:33,505
know, we want do the best. So I do think that we've, you know, we're not gonna always agree, but

2786
03:29:33,895 --> 03:29:37,725
we're, we talk, we're creative, we've just worked better and I, there's close

2787
03:29:38,005 --> 03:29:41,925
session, especially if you guys could see our close session. I think our close session's been even more better and

2788
03:29:42,125 --> 03:29:46,045
it's really helped. So appreciate everyone and just us working more cohesively

2789
03:29:46,825 --> 03:29:50,155
in the organization and on this diocese a team. Thank you. Alright.

2790
03:29:51,375 --> 03:29:55,165
thank you mayor. Thank you staff. I wanna give a

2791
03:29:55,825 --> 03:29:59,755
big shout out to all of our graduates at sweetwater high

2792
03:30:00,045 --> 03:30:04,045
school this friday. There will be two graduations at 3:00 pm and at

2793
03:30:04,165 --> 03:30:07,925
6:00 pm and um, there will be three valedictorians

2794
03:30:08,835 --> 03:30:12,025
from sweetwater high school. They are kenneth sagoon,

2795
03:30:12,975 --> 03:30:16,305
brian rivera and sol lopez. And,

2796
03:30:17,025 --> 03:30:20,925
uh, there are three lopez. Yes. Three valedictorians, uh, because

2797
03:30:21,245 --> 03:30:24,655
they couldn't outdo each other at the end. Uh, principal laura,

2798
03:30:25,345 --> 03:30:28,925
um, you know, finally called and said, okay, you guys can't do each other,

2799
03:30:29,535 --> 03:30:33,045
outdo each other. Uh, they reached, uh, 4.4 0.66

2800
03:30:34,125 --> 03:30:37,945
gpa. Um, and uh, one of those three is my,

2801
03:30:38,385 --> 03:30:41,445
my kid. So I just wanted to be transparent about that.

2802
03:30:44,545 --> 03:30:46,445
coming. You guys didn't see that one coming.

2803
03:30:50,185 --> 03:30:54,165
um, you know, I've had tremendous emotions for the last two months, so thank

2804
03:30:54,325 --> 03:30:58,165
you for giving me some grace here. But, um, you know, all three

2805
03:30:58,545 --> 03:31:02,175
are very good friends. Uh, of all of the schools that all three

2806
03:31:03,185 --> 03:31:07,085
got into, they are all gonna stay home and go to ucsd. So I

2807
03:31:07,205 --> 03:31:11,005
am not worried about them. National city will be well represented

2808
03:31:11,265 --> 03:31:14,965
in la jolla and I'm just so very proud. So congratulations to all three of them.

2809
03:31:15,385 --> 03:31:19,205
and if you're gonna be at the graduation on friday, you know, give me, give me grace because

2810
03:31:19,725 --> 03:31:21,965
I am going to be an emotional mess. Thank you, .

2811
03:31:24,175 --> 03:31:28,165
great. Alright, . Well, I will not be an emotional mess.

2812
03:31:28,585 --> 03:31:32,405
I'm sorry. Um, but anyway, uh, do you want to thank staff? I mean, we've

2813
03:31:32,645 --> 03:31:36,425
done a lot of, a lot of work here. We've just got a lot more work to do on, on

2814
03:31:36,795 --> 03:31:40,765
getting a handle on, on the budget and on the spending and opportunities

2815
03:31:41,385 --> 03:31:45,325
for revenue and, uh, to see where we can go and be realistic in

2816
03:31:45,525 --> 03:31:49,225
the middle of all this and just appreciate all the hard work that everyone's put into this. So

2817
03:31:49,615 --> 03:31:53,285
thank you very much. With that, I'm gonna turn it on over to our city

2818
03:31:53,805 --> 03:31:57,785
attorney to, uh, disclose out of closed session. Thank you. Um,

2819
03:31:58,275 --> 03:32:02,235
tonight or today, the council did meet in closed session from four

2820
03:32:02,785 --> 03:32:06,565
10 uh, pm to 5:41 pm council member bush

2821
03:32:06,805 --> 03:32:10,645
joined us at four 14 and all council members were present for the remainder of closed

2822
03:32:11,165 --> 03:32:14,965
session. Um, uh, the counsel took no reportable actions tonight.

2823
03:32:15,695 --> 03:32:18,925
thank you. And with that, we are adjourned till the 16th.