1
00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:08,960
I guess they want to tell us that
they've discovered that the new police

2
00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:15,480
station is being built to an engine
burial ground. Well, actually they have

3
00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:15,480
already discovered

4
00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:21,015
» you don't know that when they started
[clears throat]

5
00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:27,400
It's been four years.

6
00:00:32,095 --> 00:00:36,080
[clears throat]
[laughter]

7
00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:47,719
And then what they said was [laughter]
clearing

8
00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:52,440
took.

9
00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:02,440
» Do we have to wait till 7:15?

10
00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:05,800
» Yes.

11
00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:15,640
Okay, [laughter]
we're close enough where we can wait a

12
00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:15,640
minute or two.

13
00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:28,280
Is there

14
00:01:48,731 --> 00:01:50,751
[laughter]

15
00:02:05,439 --> 00:02:08,600
I don't

16
00:02:13,599 --> 00:02:17,080
want to go down.

17
00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:21,080
Let's

18
00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:26,920
go for

19
00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:49,160
Let's

20
00:02:56,851 --> 00:03:00,280
[clears throat] just

21
00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:18,522
have a couple minutes.
>> [laughter]

22
00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,760
» All right.

23
00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:47,560
Thank you.

24
00:04:09,519 --> 00:04:17,759
» Thanks, Donald. Um, I'd like to to
welcome everybody out to city council

25
00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:23,919
this evening. Uh, we started 15 minutes
late

26
00:04:19,519 --> 00:04:27,600
um for a reason. Uh,
not very often I'm lost for words, but

27
00:04:25,840 --> 00:04:31,600
I'll try to find them and hopefully they
they sound correct and come across

28
00:04:29,280 --> 00:04:36,160
correct. Um
um we had a tragedy,

29
00:04:34,479 --> 00:04:42,680
I don't know how to ever put it, a
tragedy um [clears throat] occur this

30
00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:42,680
weekend where um

31
00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:49,440
where we lost a member of our community
and uh

32
00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:56,919
our local and we're lucky we didn't lose
two people. Um,

33
00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,919
our officers

34
00:04:57,040 --> 00:05:04,560
put their lives on the line every day
that they go out [clears throat]

35
00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:09,360
on the job to protect our community. And
they have to make some really really

36
00:05:06,479 --> 00:05:14,080
difficult decisions and
um very quick decisions and in

37
00:05:11,280 --> 00:05:18,240
situations that they're put in. and and
uh

38
00:05:15,759 --> 00:05:24,479
we had a chance as a council to go meet
with the wives of uh of our officers for

39
00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:30,479
a few minutes and hopefully provide them
a little bit of support and um and

40
00:05:27,199 --> 00:05:36,080
direction I can
um

41
00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:40,320
I have a child and I and I never know if
she's going to wake up the next morning

42
00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:45,919
or not uh just because of some of her
health issues she's got going on. But I

43
00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:50,560
can't imagine, and I know the anxiety
and the

44
00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:57,199
uncertainty that that puts in my body
all the time, but I can't imagine

45
00:05:54,800 --> 00:06:02,400
um the officer, the wives of our
officers, uh sending their loved one out

46
00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:06,880
the door um for their shift and and not
knowing how that shift is going to end

47
00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:12,479
and what's going to happen.
And uh

48
00:06:09,919 --> 00:06:20,800
we as a council just want them to know
how much we love and care and support

49
00:06:15,280 --> 00:06:26,000
and believe in what they do. And um
and in the same sense, I hope that we

50
00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:29,199
have some grace and and love for
the individual that was lost in our

51
00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:34,080
community. I think it was said really
well on [clears throat] on uh Facebook.

52
00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:38,000
probably one of the the few things I
think that was said well is where

53
00:06:36,319 --> 00:06:43,759
someone said, you know, there's there's
family members involved in um

54
00:06:41,840 --> 00:06:48,080
um
to give the children in in that

55
00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:53,680
situation some some grace and and some
love and and those kind of things. And

56
00:06:50,639 --> 00:07:00,960
so, um,
anyways, it it just really puts things

57
00:06:56,960 --> 00:07:04,960
in in check in reality of of what how
fast things can turn and change. And I

58
00:07:03,599 --> 00:07:10,039
said it over there and I'll say it in
here in this room.

59
00:07:07,039 --> 00:07:10,039
Um,

60
00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:20,960
Chief Morgan has done an amazing job of
preparing um, our police department

61
00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:27,759
uh, for the future and for all sorts of
different scenarios. Um, due to his

62
00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:32,560
forward thinking many years in advance,
um, the things that were put in place to

63
00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:39,599
deal with the situation that you never
hope to ever come. um he had quickly had

64
00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:43,599
things in place as far as services uh to
help with his officers and to help

65
00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:48,479
within the community and do those
different things. And that's one of many

66
00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:52,960
examples that I can that I can tell you
as far as what I just seen with his

67
00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:59,280
forward thinking and his vision, a clear
division vision of what Nephi City

68
00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:03,840
Police Department needs to be and the
level of professionalism it can be. and

69
00:08:01,919 --> 00:08:08,160
and I'm thankful for his for his
leadership all through all these years.

70
00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:13,520
Uh with that said, I will uh we'll go
ahead and convene into regular meeting.

71
00:08:10,479 --> 00:08:19,520
Um Tate will offer offer the prayer and
then Miss Nephi

72
00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:23,360
will will have their have their chance.
I'm sorry. We'll do the pledge of

73
00:08:21,039 --> 00:08:27,360
allegiance. Got to get the brain going.
Okay.

74
00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:30,360
[clears throat and cough]
Our

75
00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:40,719
father in heaven, we come to the ine
gratitude this day for the opportunity

76
00:08:35,919 --> 00:08:45,920
to meet and gather as friends and
community members. And we pray for

77
00:08:44,159 --> 00:08:52,000
this community, especially at this time,
those who are grieving and dealing with

78
00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:58,800
loss, those who are
dealing with mental health issues or

79
00:08:55,600 --> 00:09:04,000
issues out of their control. We pray for
grace to be upon them. Father, we are

80
00:09:01,519 --> 00:09:08,480
grateful for the government and this
opportunity that we have to serve and

81
00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:15,200
work.
And we we pray that we can

82
00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:19,920
be a team and do what's best for the
people of our community and

83
00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:24,320
in line with thy will. And we are again
grateful for

84
00:09:21,839 --> 00:09:27,680
this place that we live and call home,
the beauty surrounding us. We're

85
00:09:25,839 --> 00:09:32,640
grateful for the rain and the weather
that we've received to support those in

86
00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:38,320
our community. And
again, we are praying for those who are

87
00:09:35,279 --> 00:09:44,480
hurt or suffering at this time that
their burdens may be lightened. And we

88
00:09:40,560 --> 00:09:51,120
know that that can be through thy son,
through Jesus Christ. And we pray in his

89
00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:54,760
name, Jesus Christ. Amen.
Okay, you guys ready?

90
00:09:56,056 --> 00:10:05,120
» [clears throat]
>> Repeat after me. I aliance to the flag

91
00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:11,200
of the United States of America and to
the republic for which it stands. One

92
00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:15,279
nation under God, indivisible with
liberty and justice for all.

93
00:10:13,839 --> 00:10:18,959
» Do you guys want will you introduce
yourself and just kind of talk a little

94
00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:23,200
bit about your platforms and what you
have going on?

95
00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:31,360
» Yes, of course.
All right. Um, I am Harper Care and I am

96
00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:36,480
Miss Nefine 2026. I'm glad to be here.
Glad to have said the pledge of

97
00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:38,959
allegiance for our city.
>> Thank you.

98
00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:45,440
» I'm Ken Ingram. I'm your first tenant.
My platform is about it's to help

99
00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:49,760
military families cope with deployment.
>> My name is Maddie Ashford. I'm your

100
00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:53,920
second attendant and I just love Bey and
I'm happy to be here. [laughter]

101
00:10:52,399 --> 00:10:57,680
Okay. Thank you guys.
>> Appreciate all you guys do. Thank you so

102
00:10:55,600 --> 00:11:02,560
much.
>> Um, Chief, am I turning the time over to

103
00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:03,760
you or Jace? Is it?
>> Sure.

104
00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:07,360
» Okay.
>> Yeah.

105
00:11:04,399 --> 00:11:10,360
» Uh, would you introduce our new
officers?

106
00:11:10,560 --> 00:11:21,040
» So, go ahead and stand up, fellas. So,
we've recently had the opportunity to do

107
00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:28,160
some testing with uh all of our command
staff and our city councilman Callaway.

108
00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:33,040
Um, and we're excited to have these two
new officers

109
00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:38,880
with our department. Um,
we have Mitch Bailey and Ryan Costa. And

110
00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:43,000
I'll let each of them explain to you who
they are and what they're all about.

111
00:11:43,680 --> 00:11:51,920
So, I'm Mitch Bailey. Um, I have seven
years in law enforcement. Uh, I worked

112
00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:56,720
at Utah County and then at, uh, Salt
Lake City before coming down here. My

113
00:11:54,480 --> 00:12:01,839
wife is a Nephi native. She loves it
down here. We wanted to be closer to

114
00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:08,160
family. And I'm just excited to uh
excited to be working in an area that I

115
00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:11,120
wanted to work in, in a great area with
great people. So,

116
00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:14,720
» where are you from originally and who's
your wife?

117
00:12:11,680 --> 00:12:21,519
» Uh, so I
originally I mean, uh, I've got roots in

118
00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:27,360
San Pete County. Uh, but my, uh, like my
grandma grew up in Fountain Green, but,

119
00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:31,279
uh, I was born in California. Uh, I grew
up in Maryland and I moved to Provo when

120
00:12:29,279 --> 00:12:34,800
I was in high school. So, I've been I've
been in Utah for about 15 years. So,

121
00:12:34,079 --> 00:12:36,639
cool.
>> Yeah.

122
00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:41,760
» Then you said your wife's from here. So,
>> yeah, my wife's from here. Uh if if you

123
00:12:38,959 --> 00:12:44,079
know the hairs, my wife is their oldest.
So

124
00:12:42,079 --> 00:12:48,978
» yeah, they got the machine shop just
walk over.

125
00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:50,998
» And once upon a time she was Miss Nephi.
[laughter]

126
00:12:52,908 --> 00:12:56,240
[clears throat]
>> Awesome. Well, I guess I'll stand over

127
00:12:55,440 --> 00:13:02,160
here.
>> I'm Costa. Um I'm just a joy person of

128
00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:07,839
joy and fun. I came out here to just
have fun and get to be in the small

129
00:13:04,639 --> 00:13:12,560
town. I got tired of the city. Um, I
lived all over the West Coast. My dad's

130
00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:18,639
in the Navy. Um, I'm a Navy brat. My
family's mostly in the military. Um,

131
00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:22,800
yeah. Feel free to come up and ask me
questions if you ever see me out and

132
00:13:20,079 --> 00:13:26,079
about. I love to chat. Um, yeah. I'm
just here to have a good time.

133
00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:30,560
» So, thank you for welcoming me.
>> Do you [clears throat] have a wife?

134
00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:34,399
» I do. I do have a lovely wife. She's a
nurse, a labor and delivery nurse. She's

135
00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:40,240
awesome. I couldn't do this without her.
Um, and I have three kids. Um, they're

136
00:13:38,079 --> 00:13:42,744
four and under. And I'll just leave it
at that. [laughter]

137
00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:51,600
» Tell them where you come from.
>> Um, I worked at Pleasant Grove before

138
00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:57,600
here for almost 5 years. Um, so a lot
bigger than here. Um, it was fun. I

139
00:13:54,240 --> 00:14:02,000
enjoyed it. Um, I live in Santa Quinn,
so uh, I thought to work closer to home

140
00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:07,040
would be uh, ideal. And so far it's been
great for me at least. Um, I've had lots

141
00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:10,000
of fun the last week, so hopefully it
continues.

142
00:14:08,560 --> 00:14:15,494
» I know you guys have been hard at work.
I've had the opportunity to meet both of

143
00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:15,494
you already. So, [laughter]

144
00:14:16,079 --> 00:14:25,000
» I'll let you
say I've seen you out with [laughter]

145
00:14:21,519 --> 00:14:25,000
» it in the police.

146
00:14:26,079 --> 00:14:32,800
» That's top secret. [laughter]
>> All right, hold on.

147
00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:38,600
» I got it.
I'm holding mine.

148
00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:38,600
I got

149
00:14:40,330 --> 00:14:42,350
[laughter]

150
00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:47,120
» Yeah.
>> I'll be looking for a motion to ratify

151
00:14:46,079 --> 00:14:51,920
the hiring.
>> I'll second.

152
00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:54,880
» Okay. Jeremy with a second.
>> All in favor?

153
00:14:53,839 --> 00:15:00,720
» With the first.
>> Any opposed?

154
00:14:56,480 --> 00:15:05,875
» Motion passes. Thanks.
>> Um, consent agend consent agenda.

155
00:15:03,519 --> 00:15:09,120
» Wait to hear if we
[laughter]

156
00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:14,240
figured they had enough eyes, so they
were out of here. Uh, we'll move into

157
00:15:11,519 --> 00:15:20,279
the consent agenda um for approval and
minutes

158
00:15:16,959 --> 00:15:20,279
and claims.

159
00:15:22,905 --> 00:15:24,925
» [laughter]

160
00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:34,880
» I'll make a motion that we approve the
minutes from council meeting 818 2026

161
00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:39,360
and the approval of claims I'll
>> second

162
00:15:36,399 --> 00:15:46,399
count with the second all in favor
>> I any opposed

163
00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:52,800
» motion passes public comment uh we have
one individual that is signed up uh Mr.

164
00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:55,519
Armstrong.
>> I've never done this before. Am I

165
00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:59,040
supposed to
>> So the way uh we'll give you three

166
00:15:57,040 --> 00:16:04,399
minutes uh to present what you want to
present the council listen to what your

167
00:16:01,279 --> 00:16:07,519
ideas are and then uh un we'll talk with
the staff and then give them direction

168
00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:10,721
to how to address it.
>> Okay.

169
00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:14,800
» Okay. Travis will be your time.
[laughter]

170
00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:19,891
» I got Thank you. Uh my name is Dane
Armstrong. I'm a Nephi resident. Moved

171
00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:24,079
here five years ago from Idaho. Uh,
[clears throat]

172
00:16:20,639 --> 00:16:28,399
I've been talking with Shauna uh for the
last few weeks and met her once several

173
00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:34,959
calls over the phone. Great employee by
the way. Make sure she stays around. Um,

174
00:16:31,839 --> 00:16:38,639
I am not a developer, but I would like
to formally request the council to

175
00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:44,720
review
uh part of the city code. Um, with

176
00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:50,399
Shauna's advice, I printed out uh and
would like to pass along the city Nephi

177
00:16:47,199 --> 00:16:56,720
city code. like passi
city code for internal

178
00:16:53,920 --> 00:17:03,279
accessory dwelling units
uh

179
00:16:58,639 --> 00:17:11,919
that uh as you as you know was adopted
years back to comply with state code.

180
00:17:06,799 --> 00:17:16,959
Uh, also the second copy is the recently
passed Utah SB284

181
00:17:15,120 --> 00:17:23,360
passed in the last legislative session
in the state uh prohibiting cities from

182
00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:30,559
prohibiting detached accessory dwelling
units in certain classifications. Nephi

183
00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:39,440
is not in that classification quite yet,
but uh I believe that detached DADUs

184
00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:43,360
would be a benefit to our community. Uh
there's a lot of people that struggle

185
00:17:41,039 --> 00:17:48,317
with affordability. Uh whether they're
multigenerational families, new families

186
00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:52,720
that can't afford homes. Um,
[clears throat]

187
00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:59,600
selfishly, I would like to build
uh an apartment or my accessory or my

188
00:17:56,080 --> 00:18:06,080
detached building. I just built a home
up on 8th East, 800 East next to Riley

189
00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:09,919
Park's home, uh, by the high school. And
um I have a accessory

190
00:18:08,622 --> 00:18:14,160
[cough and laughter] a detached building
there that I'd like to build an

191
00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:19,840
apartment in for my mother-in-law who
was in an auto pedestrian accident years

192
00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:25,280
back. She is now single and can live
alone but struggles. Um

193
00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:31,919
right now it's not in the city code. So,
with Shauna's advice, um, I'd like to

194
00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:37,440
formally request that we look at this
latest state legislation and adopt it

195
00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:42,799
into the city code if possible to allow
for detached accessory dwelling units.

196
00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:49,600
Um, [clears throat] as Shauna directed,
I think if we in the in the state code,

197
00:18:46,559 --> 00:18:56,320
the funds we protect for lot size,
setbacks, parking, building size, fire

198
00:18:53,280 --> 00:19:00,880
safety, as well as, uh, prohibiting
shortterm rentals. Um, it

199
00:18:59,058 --> 00:19:05,679
[clears throat] would be a very great
blessing for our community. Thank you.

200
00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:08,938
» Thank you. Thank you. Still got nine
seconds if you want. [laughter]

201
00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:17,360
Not bad for your first time.
Okay. Um, seeing no other public

202
00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:25,360
comment,
we will move on uh to planning items.

203
00:19:23,039 --> 00:19:29,600
So, I know we had a pretty full agenda
last meeting and you had a ton of

204
00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:35,039
information thrown at you about varying
subjects. Um,

205
00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:40,799
so I know Shauna did a really good job
presenting the uh change or or a

206
00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:46,799
proposal that's being
you know pushed before you from the

207
00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:55,280
planning commission um on our combined
use to zone and changing the density

208
00:19:51,520 --> 00:20:01,039
um in that zone from the uh six units
per acre to eight units per acre. Um,

209
00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:04,240
and she I think even put together a a
density calculator that hopefully you

210
00:20:02,799 --> 00:20:08,640
got a chance to kind of play around with
and and uh plug in some different

211
00:20:06,559 --> 00:20:13,679
numbers and see what you thought. But um
we did not have a lot of opportunity to

212
00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:18,480
do some followup on that uh presentation
and and I figured it would be good to

213
00:20:15,360 --> 00:20:25,760
give you some time to digest what was uh
thrown at you at that meeting and u come

214
00:20:21,679 --> 00:20:31,360
back and and ask for some followup on um
your thoughts and and uh what was

215
00:20:27,919 --> 00:20:36,559
presented by Shauna and uh and if you
want to make any adjustments, changes,

216
00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:42,320
tweaks to was what was put forward. This
would affect all of the CU2 zone and

217
00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:48,080
then that would uh be something you'll
want to keep in mind whenever you

218
00:20:44,159 --> 00:20:51,840
reszone something to a CU2. We would
have requests I'm sure in the future for

219
00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:56,400
changing the zone and that would be
something you'll want to keep in mind

220
00:20:53,679 --> 00:21:01,120
when when you do approve a reszone that
that density change would be part of

221
00:20:58,159 --> 00:21:07,200
that. Um, our CU2, just a little history
on that, of course, was uh created to

222
00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:12,000
allow for some commercial, but we
focused mainly on residential. And so,

223
00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:18,240
we think this is a good fit for that
combined use zone. Um and we are

224
00:21:15,039 --> 00:21:25,280
strategically using the CO2 zone along
the um main street area and the corridor

225
00:21:21,360 --> 00:21:30,480
here to uh change traffic patterns and
to try and prevent I think what we see

226
00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:37,600
in other communities where their main
streets end up becoming kind of um one

227
00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:41,840
long strip of commercial property and
that tends to lend itself to high

228
00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:47,760
traffic volumes all at the same time of
the day. um and makes it difficult for

229
00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:52,080
uh transportation purposes. And so we
are trying to to prevent those kinds of

230
00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:56,799
things from happening in the future. And
we think this sort of what we call candy

231
00:21:54,320 --> 00:22:01,760
striping approach of of uh certain areas
of CO2 and encouraging residential will

232
00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:07,039
help do that sort of offset traffic
patterns that we see in commercial with

233
00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:12,320
some residential and uh keep our main
street a little more free uh for

234
00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:15,840
commuting. So, I just want to get
feedback from the council on what was

235
00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:19,600
presented, answer any questions that we
can and um see how you'd like to move

236
00:22:18,559 --> 00:22:24,000
forward.
>> I like it. So, the CU1,

237
00:22:22,159 --> 00:22:29,679
it's kind of the opposite, correct?
Where it's more focused on businesses

238
00:22:27,360 --> 00:22:34,720
and a little bit of limited residential.
>> Yes. Still a still a mixed use, still

239
00:22:31,919 --> 00:22:38,400
like CO2, but you're correct. It focuses
more on commercial.

240
00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:41,440
» So, I I actually really like this. I
mean, I remember when the original thing

241
00:22:39,919 --> 00:22:45,440
when you guys were talking about candy
striping, and I mean, after going

242
00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:48,320
through some other cities, and I'm not
going to name names to make them feel

243
00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:53,919
[clears throat] bad, there are some that
it is just so clogged all the way

244
00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:57,919
through. Um, and we we have to find ways
for people to have housing. [snorts] I

245
00:22:55,760 --> 00:23:03,200
mean, we plain and simple, it's not just
Nephi. This is a a Utah problem and

246
00:23:00,559 --> 00:23:09,600
really nationwide, right? there it is
just hard for young people um that have

247
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:15,760
young families to to find spaces. So I I
think I I like the density idea and then

248
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:22,320
I really
um I don't know I I totally lost my

249
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:27,039
thought as I was going Oh my other
thought I actually really like I know

250
00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:32,799
we're past the public comment side but I
like what Mr. Armstrong brought brought

251
00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:36,400
up um because I I do think more of these
are going to be probably family members

252
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:42,000
or you're going to be really careful who
you're letting in your own backyard.

253
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:47,600
» So I I do think that again housing is
just something that is very it's at the

254
00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:52,240
forefront of my mind. You know, I'm I
guess because now I'm a father of

255
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:58,240
college kids, it's only a few years
before they're going to need to be

256
00:23:54,720 --> 00:24:01,679
finding a place, right? And so, um,
anyways, I think that we definitely

257
00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:06,240
should look at this. I and I really like
the calculator. I can tell that they put

258
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:10,159
a lot of time into that, but there was
just a little I I think if we can just

259
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:16,400
make sure that there's no ambiguity that
it will um it can just be a very simple

260
00:24:14,559 --> 00:24:21,120
calculation. I'd love the calculator,
but I just want to make sure that, you

261
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:24,720
know, it doesn't leave any doubt and
things. I I think when Mr. Carlton was

262
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:27,840
here and we were kind talking back and
forth. I could see how there could be

263
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:31,120
interpretation
uh multiple ways and I'd like to just

264
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:39,480
make sure that we're as tight as can be
on the interpretation of the code that

265
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:39,480
thank you.

266
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:47,679
» I I really don't have anything else to
add. I I I you know I echo what Travis

267
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:54,727
said. I you know and I've I've been in
favor of it for pretty much since the

268
00:24:49,679 --> 00:24:58,240
get-go and I I I still feel that way. So
[laughter]

269
00:24:55,360 --> 00:25:02,240
it was clear clearly explained and uh I
would say they wrote it as well and I

270
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:07,360
think I think Sean and the rest have
done a job but explain it to us explain

271
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:13,120
to the community.
>> Um yeah it's good with me

272
00:25:12,412 --> 00:25:17,279
[laughter]
>> last everyone already said

273
00:25:15,039 --> 00:25:21,039
» making this easy.
Um what we will do then is we'll put

274
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:26,320
together an ordinance and have that
ready for you at the next meeting. Um

275
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:31,200
where we can adopt that for the whole
zone um and uh have that ready for

276
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:35,520
action.
>> Okay.

277
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:42,542
» Anything else there?
>> Okay. Um item number eight.

278
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:48,720
So, uh we do have uh Marcus our
[clears throat] um financial advisor

279
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:53,679
online and uh he has uh along with bond
council put together this um resolution.

280
00:25:51,919 --> 00:25:57,919
Uh I think you guys have been down this
road before uh adopting a parameters

281
00:25:56,240 --> 00:26:04,240
resolution. This is typically something
you do uh right before a a bond

282
00:26:01,360 --> 00:26:08,240
issuance. Um and we've done this with
sales tax bonds which I think you were

283
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:12,480
all on council when we did that. And the
parameters resolution does exactly that.

284
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:18,080
It sets the parameters for what you
would expect an eventual bond issuance

285
00:26:14,799 --> 00:26:24,880
to be. Um meaning it sets limits. It
does not mean that you will uh accept um

286
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:28,400
the interest rate that's you know put in
the resolution or the bond amount that's

287
00:26:26,799 --> 00:26:35,840
in the resolution. These are just caps
or limits uh that we will not go beyond

288
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:38,960
or ceilings you could say. Um and so, uh
we know that we have some sewer projects

289
00:26:37,679 --> 00:26:42,880
that are coming up. In fact, there's one
underway right now in the Nepal Heights

290
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:47,200
neighborhood. Um and we have some other
projects that will be coming up, um for

291
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:51,840
the sewer. And and the important part of
a parameters resolution is that it

292
00:26:49,120 --> 00:26:55,760
allows some of those expenses that have
been incurred. I think it's you can

293
00:26:53,760 --> 00:27:01,200
correct me if I'm wrong, Marcus, 60 days
prior to the adoption of a parameters

294
00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:06,080
resolution are allowed to be bonded for.
Um, so anything that we've spent up two

295
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:10,159
months prior to this would still be
eligible when we go to do a bond

296
00:27:08,159 --> 00:27:15,520
issuance and we can reimburse those
expenses. Uh, is that correct, Marcus?

297
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:19,679
» Yeah, Seth, that you you nailed it on
the head there. That's okay. Exactly

298
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:23,120
what it's there for. But also too, just
just so everyone's aware, as Seth

299
00:27:21,360 --> 00:27:27,279
mentioned, that that really is I think
the probably the most important part of

300
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:31,679
the parameters today is if you don't
adopt a parameters resolution, which

301
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:36,159
also has a reimbursement resolution
involved in it, um what happens is then

302
00:27:34,559 --> 00:27:40,400
you can't reimburse yourself with
taxexempt proceeds if you wanted to go

303
00:27:38,559 --> 00:27:45,279
back to. So, this is really just kind of
setting a line in the sand. Um, we can,

304
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:49,039
you know, use this resolution up the
next 18 months as the city decides, you

305
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:54,080
know, what expenses they may want to
reimburse themselves for, but it allows

306
00:27:51,279 --> 00:27:58,559
you to do it on a taxexempt basis so you
can get the most uh or the best tax

307
00:27:56,080 --> 00:28:01,760
rates available at that time. Um, if you
go if you don't have this and you try to

308
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:05,520
do it, then you would have to do it as a
taxable, which would be a higher

309
00:28:03,120 --> 00:28:09,600
interest rate down the road. So it it
does just give you a lot of flexibility

310
00:28:07,279 --> 00:28:13,039
moving forward with no requirement to
issue bonds or issue even up to the

311
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:18,000
amount that [clears throat] would be in
the parameters if the city decided not

312
00:28:15,039 --> 00:28:22,399
to. So I know there's a fairly high
total or amount uh a ceiling a debt

313
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:26,240
ceiling or a bond ceiling in the
parameters resolution of I think seven

314
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:31,039
and a half million. What'll actually
determine what that number is is the

315
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:36,399
cost of our projects, the bondability of
our sewer fund, uh which are going to be

316
00:28:33,919 --> 00:28:42,960
really determined by your rate structure
and a rate plan going forward. And then

317
00:28:39,919 --> 00:28:47,120
um uh and just what we receive kind of
what we think we can get in in the

318
00:28:44,399 --> 00:28:51,440
market. So, um the these are just
different uh things that will really

319
00:28:48,559 --> 00:28:55,840
dictate what we can borrow and and we'll
have more information about all of those

320
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:59,520
things coming up. Um, but we know that
those are forthcoming and so we're just

321
00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:04,960
trying to get this done so we can make
sure we're covered that 60 days prior.

322
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:10,320
And then uh we will be coming to you
similar to what we did oh

323
00:29:08,559 --> 00:29:15,600
probably almost 10 years ago with the
water plan or with the water uh project

324
00:29:12,799 --> 00:29:21,279
that we had done. Uh we put together a
11-year plan for our rates that would

325
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:26,799
help us pay back the the bonds that we
took out at that time for that project.

326
00:29:24,399 --> 00:29:32,000
Um, and so right now our our rates are
around I think 12 or $12 or something

327
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:36,559
like that per month on a residential lot
for our sewer. So we will need to kind

328
00:29:34,159 --> 00:29:41,760
of do some sort of plan to adjust those
to meet that debt service uh as we

329
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:47,679
expand our sewer facilities and also
repair uh older older things. And so uh

330
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:52,640
we were fortunate to get a couple good
projects done this year just out of fund

331
00:29:49,679 --> 00:29:56,640
balance alone. Um, so the Nebo Heights
project is underway as I mentioned. And

332
00:29:54,240 --> 00:30:00,960
then we also, uh, replaced that sewer
line under the runway at the airport.

333
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:05,600
Uh, and that was successful and that's
finished. And so that that gives me a

334
00:30:03,279 --> 00:30:10,720
lot of peace of mind as they are now,
uh, repaving the runway and we'll put

335
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:15,600
brand new asphalt over that uh, line. I
feel a lot better [laughter] than than

336
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:20,880
uh just sort of hoping and guessing that
that line will hold. Um, and it was I

337
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:26,480
think in fairly decent shape, but I
think this is just a better thing to do.

338
00:30:22,559 --> 00:30:30,240
We we rarely uh strip that runway and uh
down down to the the base course. And so

339
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:33,440
that's what that's what we were doing in
this project. And I thought if we're

340
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:37,440
ever going to do this, this would be the
time. So that that was all done and and

341
00:30:35,279 --> 00:30:41,360
we got a good bid on that and it was a
very well done project.

342
00:30:39,679 --> 00:30:45,039
» You put in a lot of work for that too,
Seth. So thank you orchestrating all of

343
00:30:43,279 --> 00:30:49,440
that to make it work. So
>> yeah. Yeah, it kind of all Yeah, it all

344
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:54,320
kind of came together and we got a very
good company and and they did it right

345
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:58,080
on time. Um, it worked out good. We did
have a couple complaints from our

346
00:30:56,080 --> 00:31:02,880
airport users, but we got through that
and uh [clears throat] and uh anyway,

347
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:07,200
we're we're on on course for for the
project that's going on right now. So

348
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:13,760
anyway, we're we're recommending uh
approval of resolution 09-01-206,

349
00:31:11,039 --> 00:31:18,159
which is a parameters resolution for our
future sewer bonds. And then we'll we'll

350
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:22,240
be coming to you with more details.
There'll still be approvals that you'll

351
00:31:19,919 --> 00:31:25,440
have to give before we actually borrow
money. We'll have to have a public

352
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:30,000
hearing and other things that are
required by law before you do any

353
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:34,399
borrowing. Um and then it will just help
us determine what those costs are for

354
00:31:31,679 --> 00:31:38,211
some of these projects um that we have
coming up. So Marcus, am I missing

355
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:40,799
anything that you want to add?
[clears throat]

356
00:31:39,039 --> 00:31:46,880
» No, no, I think you hit it just so the
the max parameters would be the 7.5

357
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:53,039
million. So not to exceed 6 and a half%
interest rate up to 32 years with a 2%

358
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:56,799
discount. And we did the 32 years in
case there is some state financing

359
00:31:54,799 --> 00:32:00,240
available. We wanted to be able to
potentially pursue that to see if

360
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:04,640
there's any lowinterest loans available
for some of this financing. So, we're

361
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:08,640
still exploring all those options and as
Seth mentioned, we'll come back to you

362
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:12,799
with more details as uh we kind of
understand some of the different

363
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:15,519
projects and amounts moving forward.
>> Was the water project USDA?

364
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,200
» Yes.
>> Yeah.

365
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:20,640
» And was it a four-year?
>> Yes.

366
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:27,279
» Okay. But what we did on that one is we
we we uh structured our rate plan such

367
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:32,640
that we can bring in enough to pay that
off in like year 25. Um one of the

368
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:36,240
problems with the 40-year loan is that
uh the infrastructure is ready to be

369
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:40,559
replaced before you pay off the loan and
we didn't want that. So we wanted to pay

370
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:44,480
the loan off early and that's how that's
that's the way our rate structure is

371
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:48,799
formed. and uh we've subscribed to a
really cool uh service and we're kind of

372
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:53,679
trying it out on the sewer fund. It
wasn't really a whole lot of money and

373
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:57,519
it actually creates the rate plan for us
once you plug in your budget and your

374
00:32:55,360 --> 00:33:01,519
capital projects and everything else. It
allows you to do some forecasting and

375
00:32:59,279 --> 00:33:07,519
and I'll have to show you tracks I think
it um anyway allows for that rate plan

376
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:12,159
to be done inhouse and so we'll show
that to you when um we we uh we put that

377
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:15,279
all together. It's kind of like a
spreadsheet on steroids. So, I'm really

378
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:19,919
excited to [laughter] take you through
that. But, um, and we may expand it to

379
00:33:17,919 --> 00:33:24,640
other utilities if this works out really
well, which I [clears throat] think it

380
00:33:21,039 --> 00:33:28,159
will. So, um, anyway, any questions on
that?

381
00:33:27,598 --> 00:33:32,320
[laughter]
>> Okay. Looking for a motion to resolution

382
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:38,840
then?
Make the motion that we approve

383
00:33:35,039 --> 00:33:38,840
resolution 09-01-2026

384
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:47,200
parameters resolution.
>> I'll second that. Okay. Call the second.

385
00:33:45,279 --> 00:33:51,679
Is this a roll call?
>> Yes.

386
00:33:48,799 --> 00:33:52,720
» Chari.
>> Jeremy.

387
00:33:52,159 --> 00:33:55,039
» Hi.
>> Traps.

388
00:33:53,279 --> 00:33:57,919
» Hi.
>> Okay.

389
00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:03,360
Passes.
>> I will send that to electronic.

390
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:07,840
» Okay. So, Just out of curiosity, does
anyone

391
00:34:05,039 --> 00:34:10,720
» Sorry, Marcus.
>> What did he say?

392
00:34:10,240 --> 00:34:14,240
» Okay.
>> Oh, thanks for everyone. Appreciate your

393
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:18,320
time. We'll see you on Thursday, Mayor.
>> Okay. See you then.

394
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:23,040
» I was just curious. Has anyone ever made
a motion and then when you did a roll

395
00:34:19,919 --> 00:34:25,520
call, they say nay? Like in the history
of that?

396
00:34:24,159 --> 00:34:26,879
» Yeah. If they're the ones that made the
motion,

397
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:30,480
» if they are the ones that made the
motion, [laughter] did they ever say I

398
00:34:28,879 --> 00:34:33,119
was just curious.
>> Yes. in the history of

399
00:34:32,399 --> 00:34:37,280
» Yes.
>> So, someone made a motion and then they

400
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:42,760
» and then they voted against it and I was
surprised that happened.

401
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,760
» Yeah.

402
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:49,440
» No, we didn't make the motion though.
>> Oh, he second it though. Somebody I know

403
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:52,320
but they
they had Yeah, [snorts] someone had to

404
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:56,399
second it. Yeah.
>> So, is it just so you can bring it to a

405
00:34:54,639 --> 00:35:00,000
vote? Is that what I guess
>> that the only uh motivation I would

406
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:03,839
think is if they knew that it was going
to be a no vote and they just wanted to

407
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:09,280
end the discussion,
>> they may make a motion to vote on it.

408
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:11,839
» I was just curious on that. I never that
would make sense.

409
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:15,920
» I would like it to
>> little history lesson, [laughter]

410
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:19,119
» but it's happened more than once. It
happened with something but it's

411
00:35:17,359 --> 00:35:23,520
happened in the past, too.
>> Cool.

412
00:35:19,599 --> 00:35:28,560
» And I've been surprised at [laughter]
>> all right. the administrative updates.

413
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:33,440
» So, just a reminder about the employee
appreciation party next week. Uh that'll

414
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:37,839
be what our typical work session night
is, but we'll we'll be having a dinner

415
00:35:35,599 --> 00:35:41,920
instead. So, uh it's at the park just
like we normally have it. Um and then

416
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:48,640
council will be there just about an hour
beforehand if you can. Uh so, it's uh

417
00:35:45,119 --> 00:35:53,760
scheduled for 6:30. Be there 5:30 set
up.

418
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:59,440
Um, and then, uh, both, uh, Mayor Cely
and I and Chief Morgan, you left, but,

419
00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:04,640
uh, we'll be heading up to the CIB, the
community impact board meeting on

420
00:36:01,599 --> 00:36:08,560
Thursday. Uh, normally, I think this is
kind of a half day meeting, and you can

421
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:13,839
seek funding from that that board. We're
going up there for our police station.

422
00:36:10,720 --> 00:36:18,160
Uh luck of the draw, we picked a meeting
where about every city in Utah, it seems

423
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:24,079
like decides to go to the community
impact board. There are 26 cities on the

424
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:29,200
agenda and we're towards the latter end.
So we anticipate that'll just be a full

425
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:34,560
day event. We have to be there at 8:30
for the staff meeting. Um and then we're

426
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:37,520
probably not going to see the light of
day until 2 or 3 o'clock in the

427
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:43,760
afternoon. [laughter] So
>> is that is that capital? Is that

428
00:36:40,240 --> 00:36:46,400
» It's up in uh South Salt Lake 13 South
or something.

429
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:50,640
» Wear your home in the new jeans and
anything else to really make you look

430
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:53,925
like Mayor will be presenting the
project.

431
00:36:52,079 --> 00:36:55,920
» We need to look as needy as possible.
[laughter]

432
00:36:54,240 --> 00:37:01,119
» I'd like to hear from elected officials
because the board is made up of elected

433
00:36:57,599 --> 00:37:06,640
officials. And so I do think um despite
the um the the numbers I feel like we've

434
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:10,720
put together a good proposal and the
fact that you have gone through the pain

435
00:37:08,240 --> 00:37:17,280
and suffering of trying to do a property
tax adjustment to help pay for um the

436
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:21,280
portion that we we need fund. I think
that that bot well. There's a lot of

437
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:27,119
times you they I've seen cities go to
CIB and [snorts] basically want CIB to

438
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:30,800
cover the entire cost with grant and
they don't really put any skin in the

439
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:35,280
game and so CIB likes to see that you
have done something to try and fund that

440
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:41,440
project yourselves. So I feel like we've
been in a good position to ask for this.

441
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:46,640
uh police uh buildings aren't normally
on the high list, but uh um we've had

442
00:37:44,720 --> 00:37:50,720
some preliminary conversations with some
board members and I think there is some

443
00:37:48,240 --> 00:37:54,880
support for it there. I think we have a
little feather in our cap that we've got

444
00:37:52,079 --> 00:38:01,040
a multi- agency public safety complex
rather than just our own. Um and the UHP

445
00:37:58,720 --> 00:38:06,000
and the adult probation parole have also
decided to write uh support letters that

446
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:12,240
we would then deliver to the CIB board
that day as well. So, we'll it'll be in

447
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:15,680
the weekend update. See how things go.
But

448
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:18,640
» you won't be able to listen in on that
at all.

449
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:24,800
» I don't think I broadcast it, but it is
a public meeting. Um, and so if you're

450
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:31,200
wanting to attend, it's on 13th about
13th South and State Street in

451
00:38:29,119 --> 00:38:34,720
» this will be this Thursday.
So, and I feel a little bad. Uh, Senator

452
00:38:33,119 --> 00:38:41,040
Owens will be at a chamber lunch that
day. I wish I could attend. Uh he's been

453
00:38:37,839 --> 00:38:44,160
a great representative for us and I uh I
kind of wish I could have attended that,

454
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:46,320
but I think we're going to be there all
day.

455
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:49,119
» Yeah.
>> So,

456
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:54,440
anything else?
>> That's all I had for my update,

457
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,440
» sir.

458
00:38:55,760 --> 00:39:01,680
Leslie,
>> no.

459
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:06,320
» Okay. Actually, let me just say thanks
to everyone for getting me your

460
00:39:03,839 --> 00:39:09,567
certificates. You guys are awesome.
>> You're welcome. [laughter]

461
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:18,960
» Um, I just wanted to follow up on one of
my last

462
00:39:16,240 --> 00:39:25,520
uh questions was about a stop sign on
200 North. If we've looked any further

463
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:30,000
into that or what we can do.
>> So, that the street sign we're talking

464
00:39:27,119 --> 00:39:33,280
about in the work session. No, never
mind.

465
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:35,599
» Um, let me find I haven't I haven't
asked Kyle if we've had a chance to do

466
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:39,200
that yet. Okay.
>> Um, we also have been a little short

467
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:41,119
staffed in our streets department.
>> Yeah,

468
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:43,040
» we got one of them that's hunting in
Alaska. So,

469
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:47,280
» nice.
>> Yeah, that was that was uh just want to

470
00:39:45,119 --> 00:39:52,480
follow up on that and then um just one
more shout out. Uh again, it's been

471
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:56,800
discussed, but just thanking the the
families and the police officers and um

472
00:39:54,800 --> 00:40:01,680
the people who serve our community in
whatever way they do that. Um especially

473
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:06,000
these police officers.
It's a thankless job. And so I just want

474
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:13,520
to make sure that I am offering my
thanks uh for what they're doing. And um

475
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:17,200
I'm grateful that this is kind of the
first time at least in my life or

476
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:23,440
probably most that we've had anything
like this really happening. Um but it's

477
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:29,359
not easy and I um I'm praying for the
families, all those involved. But

478
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:35,920
I hope we as community members can
support them and uplift them rather than

479
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:39,920
tear down. I feel like um it's easy to
tear down in in times like this and when

480
00:40:38,079 --> 00:40:43,760
there's things that are unknown. But I
just hope that we can uh give people

481
00:40:41,599 --> 00:40:49,200
some grace and understand that we're all
uh doing our best. So, but anyway, thank

482
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:54,640
you to the they're not here anymore, but
to the police officers um also to the

483
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:58,880
the sheriff um in the county sheriff
department. So, grateful for for all the

484
00:40:56,800 --> 00:41:02,480
support we have in our committee. Thank
you.

485
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:08,000
» I really don't have anything. I do like
just want to echo what what Councilman

486
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:11,440
Douglas has said. I think that that
really rings true and I I agree

487
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:15,440
wholeheartedly with what he said, but
other than that, I don't have anything

488
00:41:12,720 --> 00:41:21,359
tonight.
>> Well, um yeah, definitely a huge thank

489
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:26,480
you to the officers that of course put
their their lives on the line every

490
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:29,760
single day for us, every shift. I'm sure
that was not anything that went through

491
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:36,319
anyone's head that was going to happen
this this last weekend. Um, so that's

492
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:40,640
why I hope people will fully support the
when they are saying they need this

493
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:47,119
building and things for trainings and
for uh officer protection, for evidence

494
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:51,440
protection, different things. Um, but
also I think that with CIB hopefully

495
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:55,359
they will see because we're short
staffed and now we're even more short

496
00:41:53,359 --> 00:41:59,119
staffed while there's investigations and
stuff going on. We're trying to raise

497
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:03,680
money for police station but also for
extra coverage and officers. So

498
00:42:01,599 --> 00:42:09,200
hopefully they can help us in some form
or fashion there. Um, something else I

499
00:42:06,720 --> 00:42:13,760
just wanted to bring up just with all
the Facebook stuff, it's not even just

500
00:42:11,599 --> 00:42:19,680
social media here locally. This has
become a nationwide thing and I just

501
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:25,280
want to call for more civility from
people and and especially realize that

502
00:42:22,720 --> 00:42:30,640
elected officials aren't punching bags.
They're humans. I I promise you they are

503
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:34,720
humans and they care. Um they're not all
out just to pad their pockets and all

504
00:42:32,720 --> 00:42:39,599
this garbage that I keep seeing out
there. And so I I just wanted to take a

505
00:42:37,599 --> 00:42:44,160
minute to just say I know every single
one of these up here that are serving

506
00:42:41,359 --> 00:42:50,880
with me and the staff and such, they
care very much about this community. Um

507
00:42:48,240 --> 00:42:56,640
we are not going to go about just
frivolously buying different things with

508
00:42:53,599 --> 00:43:02,079
taxpayer dollars. And and so I I want
people to just really know, hey, we have

509
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:06,880
full-time jobs as well. We're human. uh
we have families and and so realize that

510
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:09,599
yeah, we're not going to be perfect.
There's going to be mistakes. There'll

511
00:43:08,319 --> 00:43:14,640
be different things along the way, but
we're trying our best. Um

512
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:19,839
but I I'm just grateful for these
people. And I also

513
00:43:17,119 --> 00:43:24,400
just wanted to take an opportunity now.
Um

514
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:30,000
people will need to really think this
through and such, but next June is when

515
00:43:27,599 --> 00:43:35,200
you'll be able to put in for city
council. and I would urge people to run.

516
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:40,240
Uh I will not be putting my name in
there. So that's why I'm doing a call

517
00:43:37,359 --> 00:43:45,839
for the community members to consider
that in June. So I'll be done December

518
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:51,920
of 2027. I worked here for eight years
and then you know serving a term here.

519
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:57,359
Uh it's I love my community. I just I
have a very taxing job and uh which I

520
00:43:55,040 --> 00:44:03,119
love and I I have a family that I love
and I I something had to give and so I'm

521
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:07,920
going to continue to serve but I would
call anyone who is interested in this in

522
00:44:06,240 --> 00:44:13,359
June. I think it's June 1st through the
7th. Please put your hat in the ring to

523
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:16,960
make a better place. Continue to carry
these things on. So anyways, that's all

524
00:44:16,079 --> 00:44:22,960
I have.
>> Thank you. Uh

525
00:44:20,720 --> 00:44:29,599
maybe just to well to build off that or
to re-emphasize I know we've talked

526
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:32,720
about I think some of the stuff is
better understanding of what documents

527
00:44:31,599 --> 00:44:37,520
they're reading and how they're
interpreting the material. Um I I

528
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:41,839
probably seen the same post as you did
and [clears throat] if the individual

529
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:48,160
had clearly just looking looked above
and realized what that what the spending

530
00:44:45,599 --> 00:44:52,400
was associated with, it would have made
complete sense. And yet they interpret

531
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:58,240
it totally different and thought it was
frivolous spending on our behalf. And in

532
00:44:55,200 --> 00:45:02,640
actuality, it was concessions for the
swimming pool where people could buy

533
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:07,280
those particular items while they were
enjoying the pool. And and I and and so

534
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:13,040
once again, I think it's just something
that that we need to do a better job of

535
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:17,599
because somewhere along the line, people
just don't

536
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:22,160
they just don't have that understanding
or knowledge. And tonight we're going to

537
00:45:19,839 --> 00:45:27,520
hear a little bit more from the youth
council idea and maybe that just starts

538
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:31,680
with educating the next generation
because somewhere along the line

539
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:38,240
understanding
local politics or local government has

540
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:44,400
been lost on almost the whole generation
it seems. Um, and so I think when we

541
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:49,440
talk about that tonight, developing some
ideas of of being able to educate better

542
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:53,839
and do that or maybe we need to put out
the little videos like we talked about

543
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:59,040
or those things because I was like I was
I was surprised that they were not

544
00:45:56,480 --> 00:46:02,720
associating things correctly. And so I
think Travis kind of alluded to that and

545
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:07,040
hit on that a little bit. And I think at
the end of the day also if someone is

546
00:46:04,240 --> 00:46:11,680
willing just to pick up a phone um and
make that call or or ask the the people

547
00:46:10,079 --> 00:46:15,266
that know the answers to the question,
right? Um

548
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:20,720
» what was your number again there?
[laughter]

549
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:25,359
» 435 681 0333. I need more business cards
because I gave them all away to

550
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:27,599
everybody that came. But I I I think of
uh I had an uncle pass away.

551
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:30,400
» Used them.
>> What

552
00:46:28,240 --> 00:46:33,920
» have any of them used them? I've had a
few people call me and I've had a few

553
00:46:32,319 --> 00:46:38,240
people say, "Please come visit me in my
house." And I'm willing to do those

554
00:46:35,119 --> 00:46:42,400
things. I had an uncle pass away about a
month ago, but at his funeral, it was a

555
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:47,599
really poignant uh comment that they
made. He um our family had a had had a

556
00:46:45,599 --> 00:46:52,480
ranch over in Chester for many years,
and that ranch had a had a pond where

557
00:46:50,720 --> 00:46:56,079
basically the horses were broken. You
could there was a little island in the

558
00:46:54,480 --> 00:47:02,880
center, and then in the then the horses
could be around this big circle. and his

559
00:46:59,359 --> 00:47:06,400
boys were down there uh getting water,
wanted to get a drink. It was a hot day

560
00:47:04,240 --> 00:47:10,400
and they wanted to get drink. And so
this this pond water is all mucky and

561
00:47:08,720 --> 00:47:14,240
dirty and the kids are like, "We're
thirsty. We really want a drink." And he

562
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:18,240
said, "Well, let me let me show you
something first. You can take your drink

563
00:47:16,720 --> 00:47:21,520
here
or let me walk you over." And on our

564
00:47:19,839 --> 00:47:26,160
land, we have this beautiful artisian
water well that just spits up so many

565
00:47:24,319 --> 00:47:30,000
gallons a minute, right? and it's pure
and it's cold and it's crystal clean and

566
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:34,880
you don't have to worry about any
contaminants or anything like that. And

567
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:40,720
he said and he said or you can get it
from the source and here's the source.

568
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:44,640
And sometimes for whatever reason people
don't go to the source of information

569
00:47:42,720 --> 00:47:48,720
and they want to get it from the muck
and the gunk and all those kind of

570
00:47:46,720 --> 00:47:54,720
things where really if they went to the
source and they asked those questions

571
00:47:51,599 --> 00:47:58,800
the information is right there and it's
clean and it's pure form I will and and

572
00:47:57,040 --> 00:48:03,359
those kind of things. So I I that was
kind of the met was physical in the

573
00:48:01,599 --> 00:48:06,560
sense that you can drink muddy water or
you can drink clear water. Which one of

574
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:11,680
the two do you want to drink? But
metaphorically like you can get in a

575
00:48:09,359 --> 00:48:15,119
muck and do that or you can get it from
that source of information. And I

576
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:20,720
challenge people to kind of think about
that and look about that. Unfortunately,

577
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:25,200
uh my gener uh the generation just above
me decided to to sell off the family

578
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:28,800
ranch and so unfortunately we don't have
the family ranch anymore. So I I

579
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:32,880
understand the plight. Maybe that's why
I'm so

580
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:37,040
committed to the idea of finding ways to
bring back agriculture or to have

581
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:40,400
agricultural continue, you know, and
those kind of things, you know. Probably

582
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:44,480
the hardest thing for me was to give up
the family brand. I grew up my whole

583
00:48:42,319 --> 00:48:49,760
life with that family brand and now that
brand's no longer our brand, right? It's

584
00:48:47,119 --> 00:48:53,040
gone to someone else. But, you know, the
the generation and the family didn't

585
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:57,920
want to continue that kind of lifestyle
and that was the end of that. So, um,

586
00:48:56,160 --> 00:49:01,520
anyways, I I just thought about a lot
about that over the the last little

587
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:06,480
while and then of course last night kind
of made that more poignant to me. Uh,

588
00:49:04,079 --> 00:49:12,720
with that said,
we'll skip going into closed meeting.

589
00:49:09,599 --> 00:49:17,280
Um, we'll move into into the work
session items

590
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:22,720
and actually we'll bump you to the first
instead of being C and uh we'll talk

591
00:49:20,559 --> 00:49:25,920
about youth council and [clears throat]
then we'll go from there.

592
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:30,880
The time is now yours.
>> You mind if I pass out some paper?

593
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:34,240
» Yeah, go ahead.
>> I'd like it if you had one for the

594
00:49:32,559 --> 00:49:40,200
press.
>> Certainly.

595
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:40,200
» Thank you.

596
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:49,160
And I got four more.

597
00:49:53,280 --> 00:50:00,880
So I'm here. My name is Brody K. I'm the
Jew high school general Sterling scholar

598
00:49:59,359 --> 00:50:06,880
and I'm here to discuss the potential of
a Nephi City Youth Council. So a youth

599
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:13,119
council would exist to give youth in our
community more voice upon city matters

600
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:18,000
at a local government level. And as
Mayor Cely said, so they can understand

601
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:23,520
local government better and potentially
teach other youth how local government

602
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:29,280
actually works. So the idea would to be
to have 6 to 12 youth members serve for

603
00:50:26,720 --> 00:50:37,280
about one year
with meetings about every two weeks just

604
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:40,960
like on Wednesday or Thursday after city
council meetings so they can discuss the

605
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:45,680
topics that were discussed at the city
council meetings.

606
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:52,319
leadership in the youth city council
would be a good option with having a

607
00:50:48,240 --> 00:50:59,040
mayor chair and a vice chair secretary
and potentially committee leaders to

608
00:50:54,880 --> 00:51:04,960
lead on projects and other matters.
So meetings would be every two weeks

609
00:51:02,079 --> 00:51:08,880
about that's a flexible number. The
length of the meetings is a flexible

610
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:13,440
number. I mean you have to play
everything by ear in these matters. It's

611
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:19,599
just things need to change if you got to
change them. Um, so we would take ideas

612
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:24,079
from the youth or you guys or surveys we
do or just ideas that pop into our

613
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:28,800
heads. We would have meetings about
them, approve them, and then bring them

614
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:32,559
to you guys, present on them, and then
you guys would make the final decision

615
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:38,880
on whether those get passed or not or
whether we can do the projects. So,

616
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:42,559
so and then there's the committee's
idea. So,

617
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:47,520
We need to assign people to lead
projects like community events,

618
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:53,119
community service. One I wanted to touch
on was a communications committee leader

619
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:58,480
to potentially do social media and
surveys. I know social media is a touchy

620
00:51:56,319 --> 00:52:04,079
subject, especially have with people
under 18. That's something to discuss

621
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:08,319
further in future.
And the relationship with the city

622
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:14,000
council is a big thing because we need
to emphasize that the city youth council

623
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:18,720
are not elected officials whatsoever.
They have no actual

624
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:24,480
legal power within the city government.
They are simply here to advise the city

625
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:27,760
council on what the youth's opinion is,
what we would like, and at the end of

626
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:34,000
the day, you guys make the final
decision.

627
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:39,359
And some ideas for projects would be to,
you know, do stuff at a park, clean up

628
00:52:36,079 --> 00:52:44,079
the town, doing surveys about what the
youth in the town care about, maybe

629
00:52:41,359 --> 00:52:49,440
potentially educate youth on how city
government works, or I know a lot of

630
00:52:47,359 --> 00:52:52,240
youth my age have been running over stop
signs and stuff. And to [laughter]

631
00:52:51,359 --> 00:52:56,720
potentially use,
>> you know who they are.

632
00:52:55,200 --> 00:53:02,640
» Find out.
>> All right. Darn it.

633
00:52:59,839 --> 00:53:06,880
So at the end of the day, the idea is to
have young people identify issues within

634
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:10,640
their community, teach them about how
their local government works and about

635
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:14,960
how they can be proactive about that in
the future in their lives to actually

636
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:21,520
pioneer solutions instead of just
sitting around and complaining about it,

637
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:28,960
» you know, learning.
>> Why is beyond three years?

638
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:34,160
» So that was that's it. No, I'm I'm
totally in faith with this. I I really

639
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:38,559
like the idea, Brody. And I, you know, I
would say don't don't overburden

640
00:53:36,319 --> 00:53:43,359
yourselves. I I think once a month would
be plenty to be able to go do something

641
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:47,119
like this, but I think you could
>> This would be an excellent thing to help

642
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:51,680
us, too.
>> I I think that also hopefully we can

643
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:55,280
help. It's kind of like golf. You got to
start young. I'd really like for people

644
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:59,599
to really know and have civic
responsibility from a young age. And I

645
00:53:57,839 --> 00:54:02,240
mean, you're allowed to run for city
council. I think what is it 25 years old

646
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:08,800
now?
>> Is that the is that constitutionally

647
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:12,960
» is it is it mayor that can be 25?
>> Yeah. I thought it was 18

648
00:54:10,720 --> 00:54:17,359
» for council. So
>> that

649
00:54:15,119 --> 00:54:22,400
just got elected up north
>> 18. And then so what's a mayor? What's

650
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:27,839
the I remember there was like 25 30 and
then 35 for president. So Brody just get

651
00:54:25,119 --> 00:54:32,800
ready for 35. [laughter]
>> I do think every two weeks would work

652
00:54:30,319 --> 00:54:37,040
well especially with how the schedule of
the actual city council meetings are if

653
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:41,200
we want to discuss each one of those at
our meetings the topics that were gone

654
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:44,800
over there just so we know more and we
don't have a ton piled up for each

655
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:48,400
meeting. Mhm.
>> Well, and I something that I also

656
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:54,160
wouldn't mind seeing, I I noticed a few
of the UPN North cities are doing where

657
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:58,720
they have uh one of the youth council or
a few of them with one of the members of

658
00:54:56,160 --> 00:55:01,839
the council or the mayor doing some
social media. I mean, I think they're

659
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:05,760
usually seniors in high school, so it's
not like they're young, but educational

660
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:10,240
videos of this is what's going on in our
community. I think that's another thing

661
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:14,000
I wanted to discuss is the mayor of the
youth council would be communicating

662
00:55:12,079 --> 00:55:19,520
more with the city council itself so you
don't have like 12, you know, 16 through

663
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:26,720
18 year olds just battering you guys
with texts and stuff. [laughter]

664
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:30,640
» This is you do some research on that.
>> I I've been familiar with youth councils

665
00:55:28,720 --> 00:55:35,119
in different cities and we had one in
the city I was in in Oregon and uh I've

666
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:40,000
known not a lot of cities up north do
them. Um, I think it's a great

667
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:43,760
opportunity to educate younger folks on
how local government works. Uh, not a

668
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:48,240
knock against our own civics program
here at JWEB. I don't know what they

669
00:55:45,359 --> 00:55:53,040
teach, but I know in most communities,
uh, local government civic education is

670
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:56,720
wally lacking. They typically focus on
federal government with some state, but

671
00:55:55,200 --> 00:56:01,599
they don't talk a lot about what happens
at the local level. And oddly enough

672
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:05,440
though, as they as people grow older,
it's really what happens at the local

673
00:56:03,119 --> 00:56:08,559
level that people care about the most.
>> It's what affects your life.

674
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:14,720
» It's what affects your life the most.
And so, um, I would love to to be able

675
00:56:11,599 --> 00:56:19,119
to be a liazison if the council so chose
uh to to be a liazison to the youth

676
00:56:17,119 --> 00:56:22,720
council and and help facilitate kind of
the interaction between the two. Uh,

677
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:28,400
this is something I've actually wanted
to to do at the high school and promote

678
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:32,880
local government civics education and I
think this would be a fantastic

679
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:37,359
opportunity to to do that. Um, me or or
or some of the other staff could step in

680
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:41,280
and kind of help out. We are limited on
time and so we may not be able to go to

681
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:45,839
every meeting that they hold. But we
could certainly uh come to some of those

682
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:49,680
meetings and answer questions and talk
through, you know, the things the

683
00:56:47,599 --> 00:56:53,040
decisions that the council's making,
terminology, you know, things that may

684
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:56,559
be unfamiliar with them. When we start
talking land use or sewer bonds or

685
00:56:55,359 --> 00:57:00,880
whatever, you know, there there's
probably a lot of things that are are,

686
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:04,960
you know, that aren't readily known by
the the regular public. And so we'd be

687
00:57:02,720 --> 00:57:08,240
happy to to inform the youth on that.
And I think that is a great point,

688
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:12,799
mayor, that this really helps grow that
next generation uh to have some civic

689
00:57:10,720 --> 00:57:17,920
pride and and and pride in the local
community and and and bring them up uh

690
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:21,839
to hopefully run for council one day and
take ownership for real uh as a city

691
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:26,160
councelor
>> and you said they can run at 18. So come

692
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:28,960
on as a senior. [laughter]
>> Welcome aboard.

693
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:33,280
I'd be willing.
>> So the next step

694
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:36,319
next steps would have to be like a
policy related to how

695
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:40,640
» I think if we just created a policy and
then and then I think we've got a great

696
00:57:38,079 --> 00:57:44,640
framework that's been prepared [cough]
we can [clears throat] take adopt a lot

697
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:49,440
of what's put in here uh within that
policy and then uh yeah let's just get

698
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:54,214
it get it started. This this sounds like
the real mayor's task force. I've always

699
00:57:51,359 --> 00:57:54,214
wondered what that was. [laughter]

700
00:57:56,079 --> 00:58:00,079
» Yeah. Okay. All right. All right, we'll
start. Go ahead.

701
00:57:58,559 --> 00:58:05,295
» There's one last thing I wanted to say.
Mona and Lean City already happy with

702
00:58:02,319 --> 00:58:09,960
councils. We are We are behind, guys.
[laughter]

703
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:09,960
» Never mind.

704
00:58:11,845 --> 00:58:17,520
[laughter]
>> Okay, we'll get working on that and then

705
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:21,119
um if you just want to communicate with
Seth and myself for now and then

706
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:24,640
» get your car. Okay.
>> I'll tell you too, there's also

707
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:29,680
something that's really exciting. So in
January they do an elected official day

708
00:58:27,359 --> 00:58:34,559
on the hill and all the youth councils
are invited to come up and you get a

709
00:58:31,359 --> 00:58:38,240
tour of the capital and you do mock
>> mock something mock government. I have

710
00:58:36,799 --> 00:58:40,880
not been to it because we don't have a
youth council but

711
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:44,799
» it's a pretty cool opportunity.
>> Also Utah State University holds a

712
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:48,720
conference for youth councils where they
go up and have activities and things

713
00:58:46,319 --> 00:58:51,760
like that. So, I've never really learned
too much about it. I know they have it,

714
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:54,559
but I can certainly get a lot of
information on that. And if that's

715
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:57,119
something that you guys are interested
in, we could try to facilitate maybe

716
00:58:56,319 --> 00:58:59,520
something.
>> I'd love it.

717
00:58:58,559 --> 00:59:06,520
» Thank you.
>> Thanks, bro.

718
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:06,520
» All right. Uh, a street signs.

719
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:18,000
Um
uh to this point uh the city has has uh

720
00:59:13,839 --> 00:59:22,319
really tried to hold firm on um having
street numbers. I think it uh the

721
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:26,400
council's been pretty clear they want to
maintain the grid system as much as

722
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:31,280
possible. Uh we think an integral part
of that is to maintain the numbers on on

723
00:59:29,599 --> 00:59:36,160
streets and instead of having street
names. Um, we did have a a subdivision

724
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:40,079
that came in that wanted to name the
streets and we had to kind of go through

725
00:59:37,599 --> 00:59:44,319
that exercise at that time and it was
determined at that point that we really

726
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:50,000
need to stick with the street numbers.
Um, it it just facilitates an easier

727
00:59:47,599 --> 00:59:54,960
interpretation rather than have too much
of a mixed bag of street names and

728
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:58,960
numbers. Um, you know, for for those
that come from out of state that don't

729
00:59:56,880 --> 01:00:03,440
understand the grid system, it's it can
be confusing enough. And so when you

730
01:00:00,559 --> 01:00:08,720
throw names as well as numbers uh into
the mix, it can be be tough. And I know

731
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:13,119
Salt Lake has has kind of done a mixed
bag. And if you don't know your way

732
01:00:11,359 --> 01:00:19,280
around, sometimes that can be confusing.
But um we we do have one street name uh

733
01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:26,160
in in the city and that's of course Wasp
Way. Um which is 7th North. Uh and and

734
01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:30,799
you know there's been some consideration
about whether or not we want to include

735
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:36,240
other street names. Um, as the city has
expanded south, uh, we have incorporated

736
01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:43,040
what has historically been known as
sheep plate and, uh, I think everybody

737
01:00:39,839 --> 01:00:46,160
kind of knows it as that. Um, and and so
the question that's sort of before you,

738
01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:51,920
we've been requested to have some street
signs put up on that on that road where

739
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:58,400
it intersects Highway 28 is we want to
maintain the the uh, just the numbering

740
01:00:55,200 --> 01:01:04,880
system. Uh I think it's 2300 South is
what that number would be or do we want

741
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:10,960
to keep the the name uh kind of in
reference to the historical uh mention

742
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:17,040
of that. Um I think whatever way we
choose I think we should adopt a policy

743
01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:21,839
for when we allow a name and when we
want to maintain the the numbers. I

744
01:01:19,599 --> 01:01:26,400
think if it's pretty loose, then I think
you will end up with a lot of requests

745
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:29,440
for names and uh you might have a lot of
things named different things. So, if we

746
01:01:28,347 --> 01:01:33,680
[clears throat] do decide to have a
name, I I think I would recommend that

747
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:38,160
we we incorporate I guess that picture
is a little blurry, but um that we

748
01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:42,400
maintain the number as well as the name
on the sign just so that we're still

749
01:01:40,079 --> 01:01:47,680
trying to identify the grid system. I uh
use through numbers numbering. Um, but

750
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:51,839
uh we're happy to go whatever way the
council chooses, but but uh I do think

751
01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:56,559
whatever you choose, I think we should
adopt a policy so we know exactly when

752
01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:58,480
we would look at a street.
>> Yeah,

753
01:01:56,880 --> 01:02:00,960
» since that has always been known as
that.

754
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:07,119
» That's probably the way to go. But put
the number underneath it. But I think as

755
01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:12,559
far as new requests, I I would say let's
stay with the number system, especially,

756
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:16,480
you know, with emergency response and
things like that. I mean, people that

757
01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:20,079
have been here their whole lives know
where things are, but people that

758
01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:25,760
haven't don't know. And so numbers are
just a lot easier to to [snorts] find to

759
01:02:23,119 --> 01:02:29,680
find locations.
>> I think the option to maintain the

760
01:02:27,839 --> 01:02:35,760
tradition of sheep lane as well.
>> Um, so I'd be in favor of keeping and in

761
01:02:31,839 --> 01:02:40,480
this instance sheep lane with 2300 South
underneath. Um but then again I I would

762
01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:46,880
agree with Shie especially in like
residential areas or new developments

763
01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:51,680
like that we keep the grid system um in
traditionally known you know sheep Wayne

764
01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:57,040
or I don't know airport road or whatever
if there's a couple of those I don't I

765
01:02:54,799 --> 01:03:01,359
don't think there should be many but way
a handful of them I think is

766
01:02:59,599 --> 01:03:06,480
» is fun to maintain the tradition of the
city um and the culture of the city

767
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:10,799
while still being in line with those who
are not from the city, but it gives them

768
01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:15,113
a sense of this is I'm learning the
culture of the city. I'm learning the

769
01:03:11,839 --> 01:03:20,480
tradition, the history, right? I think
[clears throat] I was just gonna say I I

770
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:25,680
tend I I agree as far as the the sheep
line and whatnot, you know, that being I

771
01:03:23,119 --> 01:03:29,760
I do think though that I do think we
ought to draft a policy with with some

772
01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:35,119
parameters and again I think they need
to be fairly tight. But I think if

773
01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:40,240
there's a you know historical value or
you know maybe something heritage to the

774
01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:44,960
area or something you know because I I
think we tend to lose a lot of that.

775
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:48,880
Let's say if there is a let's say a you
know a large farm or something you know

776
01:03:47,359 --> 01:03:53,680
were to become a subdivision or
different things like that you know it

777
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:59,359
may not hurt to have you know maybe a
you know a a road in there you know with

778
01:03:57,200 --> 01:04:04,000
with that name alluding to that and it
could be this and it doesn't need to be

779
01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:09,839
the um the primary name of the street it
could be you know you know X lane you

780
01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:15,680
know 2100 West or whatever it may be but
but I do think we we create a policy and

781
01:04:12,319 --> 01:04:22,079
I've been asked informally about town on
this on this before and I think as as

782
01:04:19,039 --> 01:04:28,079
long as we we adopt if we do adopt a
policy or adopt some parameters as to

783
01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:33,200
when this could happen where you know
and and again I think we it we'd want it

784
01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:37,520
to be pretty tight. I don't again you
know we don't want to change you know

785
01:04:35,359 --> 01:04:44,000
very many streets very often but but if
there was a handful of streets you know

786
01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:48,000
similar to Wasp way I I think I think I
think it is important that we we do

787
01:04:45,839 --> 01:04:52,480
maintain that that heritage and that
some of the historical value too going

788
01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:57,359
forward because things change you know
community will look a lot different in

789
01:04:53,839 --> 01:05:01,760
30 years than it does today and so I I I
think it's you know I I think that might

790
01:04:59,599 --> 01:05:08,000
be something just just another way to
kind to hang on to our heritage. So,

791
01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:13,680
» yeah. No, I like that. Um I I the other
thing that I think of is Sheep Lang was

792
01:05:11,039 --> 01:05:19,680
a county road before. The county has
named many many roads. And so, as we

793
01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:22,720
annex, I think we're going to have this,
you know, as we grow westward,

794
01:05:21,530 --> 01:05:27,599
[clears throat] there's quite a few that
have names. And so, we do need to have a

795
01:05:25,599 --> 01:05:32,880
policy, you know, if we can have a
number to it. and that like I I know the

796
01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:37,200
one they call Tap Lane is 1900 South,
you know. So if we again just make sure

797
01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:43,760
we keep with the grid but then have this
but I mean are you really going to trash

798
01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:48,480
what they not not trash but just get rid
of what has been historically that

799
01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:54,319
because even if we don't [clears throat]
annex like all sheep lane up along uh

800
01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:58,160
from one man band all the way over
that's still sheep lane in the county

801
01:05:56,400 --> 01:06:02,720
you know and and really the reason why
it connects to 2300 is it actually goes

802
01:06:01,039 --> 01:06:07,920
behind if you look at the old road maps
goes behind the motel and everything and

803
01:06:05,039 --> 01:06:12,079
connects perfectly into there. It's
everyone's always wondered why is it

804
01:06:09,119 --> 01:06:15,520
dead end at subway and and then restart
but it actually [clears throat] goes

805
01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:21,119
behind there and then connects and then
it doesn't sheep lane starts on highway

806
01:06:19,359 --> 01:06:25,359
132 and it ends on
>> like the most confusing road in the

807
01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:28,400
whole area to get a fire page too.
>> Yeah, for sure. For sure.

808
01:06:26,559 --> 01:06:31,839
» But you're saying are you saying
essentially

809
01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:35,359
maintain existing names? I would
maintain existing names, but

810
01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:38,319
» then we can still throw underneath what
throw in.

811
01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:41,599
» Yes. Throw in the grid
>> and probably don't get into a huge

812
01:06:40,079 --> 01:06:45,119
naming
>> contest of every single road, but there

813
01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:49,039
will be some things of historical
significance. Something that a lot of

814
01:06:47,359 --> 01:06:54,079
this generation, the future generations
are going to eventually forget is this

815
01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:58,319
is track street. You know, 100 north,
that's we all knew it as track street

816
01:06:56,000 --> 01:07:01,280
growing up. And you know, my dad said
there were the tracks that just went

817
01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:07,039
right along here and went up the canyon
and and such. So anyways, there's just a

818
01:07:04,559 --> 01:07:11,680
few of historical significance like like
Jeremy had said and then just I I I

819
01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:17,359
don't want to lose some of that of when
we do bring these in westward because it

820
01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:21,280
also I mean a lot of people get the
their address or whatnot put on either a

821
01:07:19,680 --> 01:07:26,480
sign or their mailbox or different
things. And I know even when we had

822
01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:32,720
addresses assigned out in the county I
think the jail is 425 West sheet lane.

823
01:07:29,599 --> 01:07:37,359
Uh then I know the storage yard got a
525 west and then I know that uh Heath

824
01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:43,119
Butler isn't he
>> his shop is also something west sheep

825
01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:48,640
lane drive and so I I think if we could
do the sheep lane but then have that but

826
01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:53,680
then yeah if there are other roads that
go westward um through annexations and

827
01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:56,720
such because airport road will probably
eventually

828
01:07:55,119 --> 01:08:01,839
» we also have metal lane
>> metal lane I mean we don't have to

829
01:07:59,599 --> 01:08:07,839
There's cow lane. There's I mean you go
around oral road is also partially

830
01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:13,119
» city in now, right? I mean I think it's
a U dot frontage road along uh there.

831
01:08:11,200 --> 01:08:16,560
But there's just a few things like that
that I think we have to consider.

832
01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:19,600
» Think if it's sheeper should have a
sheep on it like the

833
01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:25,839
» do we want [laughter] to have a picture
of a sheep just like

834
01:08:22,319 --> 01:08:29,359
» Yeah, it must have a photo. [laughter]
>> But that's Sorry, I have a comment.

835
01:08:28,799 --> 01:08:35,040
Yes.
>> But that's the thing is is we don't when

836
01:08:32,319 --> 01:08:39,279
we address things and I'm kind of now
talking from the planning and something

837
01:08:37,440 --> 01:08:43,759
» when we address things we address them.
I mean there's another one that lives on

838
01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:49,279
700 North that is their address is was
like no it's a nickname.

839
01:08:45,679 --> 01:08:53,600
» Yeah. So why this came about is because
of what Travis said is is the properties

840
01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:58,159
we're annexing in. we were giving a
number, but there were county people

841
01:08:56,239 --> 01:09:05,679
that still
it's it's um she blame. So I'm like, if

842
01:09:03,120 --> 01:09:11,520
we're going to have it be sheep lane, if
we're going to give it a number, it

843
01:09:07,920 --> 01:09:16,239
needs to be on the sign, you know? I So
I mean, that's just the way that we add

844
01:09:14,239 --> 01:09:21,279
the addresses. So I just don't know like
are you saying no the address should be

845
01:09:18,719 --> 01:09:25,279
sheep lane or we should go with 2300
north because

846
01:09:23,199 --> 01:09:30,880
I mean that's just Nephi city's way that
we can address right now. So that's like

847
01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:40,480
that's what I want to
>> and I might also suggest the possibility

848
01:09:34,480 --> 01:09:46,239
of extending the name of way because as
it is right now it ends [snorts] I

849
01:09:43,279 --> 01:09:52,159
believe at third west [clears throat]
but 7th north goes all the way out to

850
01:09:50,159 --> 01:09:56,560
3100 west.
>> It's just not our street at that point.

851
01:09:54,800 --> 01:10:01,920
So that's what's hard is that's then
county as soon as we crossed the tracks

852
01:09:59,360 --> 01:10:03,840
then it splits off into county instead
of

853
01:10:02,320 --> 01:10:07,600
» I just wondering why the whole thing
wasn't called wasp boy.

854
01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:10,320
» I think it was just a nickname after the
fact but yeah that would be something

855
01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:13,760
the county would have to do.
>> I would think as far as addressing

856
01:10:11,920 --> 01:10:16,960
purposes it should just be the numbers.
>> It should stay to the numbers

857
01:10:15,280 --> 01:10:20,480
» form to the numbers and then just like
this just consider that more of a a

858
01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:26,400
nickname for the street. That's my
opinion.

859
01:10:21,360 --> 01:10:32,000
» Yeah. Well, the students came in because
we do from the high school and petition

860
01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:34,000
to have number.
So

861
01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:38,080
» So if they're currently on Chief Lane,
if they were to annex in the future

862
01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:41,280
build house there, it would then be 2300
South

863
01:10:39,280 --> 01:10:45,920
» was is what they would write on there.
>> So is there something we should look at

864
01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:51,360
though readressing some of these that
are newer that we've already addressed?

865
01:10:48,480 --> 01:10:54,560
And then the sheriff's office, I mean,
they're

866
01:10:52,719 --> 01:10:58,480
Because that is really confusing. I mean
like like Joel mentioned, I mean you get

867
01:10:56,640 --> 01:11:03,120
a page. Luckily these guys will all
know, hey, it's the jail, but I mean she

868
01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:06,400
lane you could be anywhere
>> except for all the new guys. All of us

869
01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:09,994
homegrown guys were like, "Oh yeah, we
know Sid Rigg lives out on there." And

870
01:11:08,320 --> 01:11:12,014
everybody's like, "Who's Sid Rigg?"
[laughter]

871
01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:18,480
» No one knows where to go except for all
his home girls and there's getting two

872
01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:23,840
of us.
>> Yeah. So, it might be good to at least

873
01:11:21,760 --> 01:11:27,120
Yeah. Just make sure all of our
addressing.

874
01:11:24,880 --> 01:11:29,280
» We have to work the post office, but uh
we could try to do that.

875
01:11:28,719 --> 01:11:32,640
» Yeah. I think
>> it's hard if they've got a monument sign

876
01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:37,280
with it chiseled in. That would be
tough. But I think yeah any that don't

877
01:11:35,520 --> 01:11:42,159
have monments [laughter]
I don't know I think that that is a

878
01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:46,159
really good point and it's mostly I mean
what we're worried about is the public

879
01:11:43,679 --> 01:11:49,840
safety side. Yeah, we'll we'll uh we'll
draft something in a policy and then we

880
01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:52,320
can kind of tweak it from there. But
this is good feedback as we kind of put

881
01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:55,280
that together
>> because I know you just have to do an

882
01:11:53,440 --> 01:11:59,360
affidavit, right? And then that's what
>> Yeah, it can be done. We did that with

883
01:11:56,800 --> 01:12:02,400
450 when we changed that from 400 to
450.

884
01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:04,320
» And even when we changed, do you
remember it was originally

885
01:12:03,050 --> 01:12:10,400
[clears throat] recorded out there where
the steakhouse is is 100 west, but then

886
01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:15,120
when Kyle looked at it, it was 425
>> because of that weird dog leg that

887
01:12:12,239 --> 01:12:18,960
happens that technically that road was
425. So we did it with an affidavit,

888
01:12:17,120 --> 01:12:25,760
recorded it, and then took it to the
post office. So when when drafting that,

889
01:12:21,840 --> 01:12:32,800
are you saying essentially we blanket
the whole town as numbers, but then we

890
01:12:29,199 --> 01:12:36,480
just recognize nicknames on signs
>> if we want to go that direction. Yeah,

891
01:12:35,040 --> 01:12:43,360
» that's that's kind of what I'm hearing
at least is if it's cheap lane, it's

892
01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:47,520
2300. However, the street sign itself
would be nicknamed Wasway or sheep lane

893
01:12:45,760 --> 01:12:52,080
or track free street or whatever.
>> But it wouldn't be it wouldn't be 2300

894
01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:54,640
there and it wouldn't be 2,300 out by
the landfill.

895
01:12:53,040 --> 01:13:00,690
» Yeah. Because it's different.
>> And so that makes it so

896
01:12:57,280 --> 01:13:04,159
» confusing. I think to go with council's
[clears throat] idea to have just kind

897
01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:08,480
of have it be a nickname. Just like with
7th North, we don't have Waspway signs

898
01:13:06,719 --> 01:13:11,920
at every intersection all the way to the
high school. This is just kind of this

899
01:13:09,760 --> 01:13:18,159
main just
almost like a monument sign [laughter]

900
01:13:14,480 --> 01:13:23,440
highway 28 and cheap lane. Uh but going
westward it would be numbered and uh and

901
01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:27,520
then when you kind of turn the corner
way out to the west if we ever annex

902
01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:31,760
that far uh it would just be new numbers
going north and it wouldn't be known as

903
01:13:29,679 --> 01:13:36,080
lane. So
>> I guess some of our addresses are

904
01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:40,880
currently on Main Street but technically
it's Highway 128, right? Uh so yeah, one

905
01:13:39,120 --> 01:13:45,600
of the things we had talked about is
south of the freeway would be known as

906
01:13:42,560 --> 01:13:50,800
highway one or highway 28 and north of
the freeway would be Main Street. And so

907
01:13:47,679 --> 01:13:54,800
that way you avoid that um that
confusion, but there already has been

908
01:13:52,560 --> 01:13:59,360
some things named Main Street on the
south end. So uh we'll just have to

909
01:13:57,040 --> 01:14:05,040
maybe going forward
we'll we'll you know state those things.

910
01:14:01,760 --> 01:14:08,640
I know when the um
Oh, that subdivision, the industrial

911
01:14:07,280 --> 01:14:10,719
one, help me.
>> Rodri.

912
01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:14,320
» Rodri, thank you.
>> Uh came in, I think that was labeled as

913
01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:20,800
Highway 28.
>> Oh, nice. When I talked to the state

914
01:14:17,199 --> 01:14:25,360
911, we determined that the elevator
road would be our cutoff because just

915
01:14:23,120 --> 01:14:30,560
what Seth said, we've already named a
bunch of them Main Street and so Rodri

916
01:14:27,679 --> 01:14:35,920
is the cutoff and Elevator Road where it
will now be named Highway 28.

917
01:14:33,280 --> 01:14:42,159
» Okay. So like where the warehouse is the
correct that one's still main south of

918
01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:49,520
Elevator Road will have the name of
Highway 28. north of Elevator Road. So

919
01:14:46,080 --> 01:14:50,719
Owens Corning and that it will be Main
Street

920
01:14:50,239 --> 01:14:56,027
» North.
>> Otherwise, Leand would have Nephi main

921
01:14:52,560 --> 01:14:56,027
street [laughter]

922
01:14:56,400 --> 01:15:02,640
» and they have main street.
>> Well, I mean that's what you kind of

923
01:15:00,239 --> 01:15:08,880
look at. I think it's Delta. Is it Delta
or San County? I mean, sometimes it's

924
01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:13,440
like crazy. I I think it might even be
off of Manti. there. Is it the county

925
01:15:11,360 --> 01:15:18,239
that they do the county seat and it's
like 33,064

926
01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:22,400
north
manti? But it's like clear

927
01:15:20,159 --> 01:15:26,080
» right north of Manti on those houses.
>> Yeah. But there's some that are like way

928
01:15:24,480 --> 01:15:30,159
just out in the unincorporated county
and I think they have a mant. I guess

929
01:15:28,159 --> 01:15:35,520
we're actually technically Nephi clear
out to Dog Valley, right?

930
01:15:31,920 --> 01:15:39,219
» I think so from a zip code stand.
So they do that in Mount Pleasant where

931
01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:42,719
my daughter lives because she's outside
[clears throat]

932
01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:47,199
Mount Pleasant but she has a Mount
Pleasant address but she's in the in

933
01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:50,880
» unincorporated
>> unincorporated county.

934
01:15:49,360 --> 01:15:56,640
» Okay.
>> Interesting. [laughter]

935
01:15:53,360 --> 01:16:00,800
» More fin.
>> Yeah. I mean I think the best place is

936
01:15:58,560 --> 01:16:04,400
to have a template and just start there.
uh we'll just take some of the feedback

937
01:16:02,080 --> 01:16:08,560
we've heard here and we'll put something
together and then we can kind of massage

938
01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:12,080
and adjust as needed till we get to
something comfortable. I think there's

939
01:16:09,920 --> 01:16:15,760
pros and cons to some of the things that
we've talked about and we'll we'll talk

940
01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:17,440
about those more in work session as we
draft the policy.

941
01:16:16,960 --> 01:16:21,520
» Yeah.
>> But remember it's was way because of a

942
01:16:20,159 --> 01:16:24,640
student petition.
>> Exactly. I was just thinking that

943
01:16:23,679 --> 01:16:29,637
» but [clears throat] I do like not
addressing off of that. I I do like

944
01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:33,239
» enough subisions to worry about the
[laughter]

945
01:16:30,239 --> 01:16:33,239
history.

946
01:16:34,080 --> 01:16:41,120
» Okay.
>> And even then, how much luck would we

947
01:16:37,040 --> 01:16:47,040
have in trying to rename First North
Track Street? I mean, it's a it's a

948
01:16:44,480 --> 01:16:51,253
state highway. So I think the state of
Utah is going to

949
01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:53,273
» Utah.
[laughter]

950
01:16:54,719 --> 01:17:01,679
» There you go.
>> All right. Sarah, are you doing the

951
01:16:58,719 --> 01:17:04,960
cemetery burial?
>> Okay. [laughter]

952
01:17:02,880 --> 01:17:10,080
» It affects Leslie a little more than me.
>> Okay.

953
01:17:06,640 --> 01:17:17,760
» All right. So basically it just said the
purpose is for this for cemetery plot

954
01:17:12,800 --> 01:17:21,440
cells and we know most of it um
I'm trying to think

955
01:17:19,840 --> 01:17:28,880
um the city council will still retain
oversight but I we decided that you

956
01:17:25,040 --> 01:17:34,480
don't need to approve burial cells right
>> that was their desire that was okay so

957
01:17:31,679 --> 01:17:43,199
that that's kind of um where this kind
of started um When we're selling plots,

958
01:17:38,320 --> 01:17:50,800
I inventory limits. Um, we have right
now individual or household purchase for

959
01:17:47,520 --> 01:17:55,040
maximum and I think that's pre-needed.
Um, you know, we had a situation in our

960
01:17:52,880 --> 01:18:00,239
community recently and I think if it was
at need, we could sell as many as

961
01:17:56,800 --> 01:18:05,760
needed, but pre-need, I don't know if if
you think I think four per household is,

962
01:18:04,080 --> 01:18:08,719
but [laughter] what I don't know if you
guys Is it currently eight?

963
01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:10,159
» Is [clears throat] it currently eight
that somebody can have?

964
01:18:09,840 --> 01:18:14,080
» No,
>> I think

965
01:18:11,920 --> 01:18:18,400
» four per person.
>> It says per person, but like

966
01:18:16,719 --> 01:18:25,040
» because I think I think that's how Lisa
how we always have the eight.

967
01:18:19,760 --> 01:18:28,640
» But the problem I find is they say,
well, all this time my wife do it, but

968
01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:33,440
it all comes out of the same account,
the same person signing the check. So it

969
01:18:30,480 --> 01:18:37,199
it I just need clarification,
you know? It's like, so yeah. So yeah,

970
01:18:35,280 --> 01:18:40,640
I'll just have my my son buy this many
and my daughter buy that many and my mom

971
01:18:39,199 --> 01:18:42,400
I'm paying for all of them, but I'll
just put their name on them.

972
01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:48,719
» Yeah,
>> I don't know. I just am trying to limit

973
01:18:44,640 --> 01:18:52,880
the amount because in reality, how many
like I'm not going to buy them for my

974
01:18:50,880 --> 01:18:56,640
children because I don't know if they're
going to live here.

975
01:18:54,800 --> 01:19:00,944
» I mean, I'm not going to do that, but I
mean other people might. That's fine.

976
01:18:58,800 --> 01:19:02,159
But so I just don't know.
[clears throat]

977
01:19:01,599 --> 01:19:06,400
» [cough]
>> I don't know if you guys need more than

978
01:19:04,320 --> 01:19:14,000
four or if I should stick with per
person, that's fine. I just

979
01:19:09,040 --> 01:19:18,640
» did we get to where it is only um the
fee to reserve the spot be because I

980
01:19:17,280 --> 01:19:22,880
remember that was what we talked about
back in the day. They used to be able to

981
01:19:21,040 --> 01:19:28,159
come in and they were purchased in the
early 1900s and they got to just get

982
01:19:25,840 --> 01:19:31,760
buried, you know, at that cost even
though it cost us a lot more to take

983
01:19:30,320 --> 01:19:36,159
care of things. So then we had switched
to perpetual care was like at the time

984
01:19:34,239 --> 01:19:42,320
of burial. But now is it pretty much
everything is at time of burial?

985
01:19:37,920 --> 01:19:48,560
» No. So you purchase the plot itself and
then um open and close fees are at time

986
01:19:45,760 --> 01:19:54,320
of burial. Is that the only thing that's
>> except for those older deeds um the

987
01:19:51,760 --> 01:19:58,800
familyowned plots we do charge perpetual
care as well as

988
01:19:57,280 --> 01:20:02,400
um the opening clos
>> because I know I think when we were

989
01:20:00,880 --> 01:20:06,960
doing research on this I mean this has
been years ago so I can't even remember

990
01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:11,679
now but we were putting the master fee
schedule together the first time and I

991
01:20:09,679 --> 01:20:16,560
remember we were talking about this that
um

992
01:20:13,440 --> 01:20:22,159
it's just so hard to because
we're having to subsidize all the use of

993
01:20:18,719 --> 01:20:27,360
that with parks. Uh, I mean, it's
general fund money and really it should

994
01:20:25,280 --> 01:20:32,560
be the user of the service. And so
really, I I don't really want to do more

995
01:20:29,280 --> 01:20:37,280
than just sell the lot to the plot to
people at the time because they're not

996
01:20:34,239 --> 01:20:40,000
using them for so many years later in a
lot of these cases.

997
01:20:38,239 --> 01:20:43,760
» And and the thing is with if they if
you're allowing people to buy more than

998
01:20:41,760 --> 01:20:46,560
four, we're going to run out faster than
>> Well, that's what Yeah, we just went

999
01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:49,199
through I mean, it's been quite a few
years. We had to go through a reclaim

1000
01:20:48,480 --> 01:20:53,440
process,
>> right? And so if you're allowing people

1001
01:20:51,360 --> 01:20:57,040
to buy as many as they want, I mean, so
I think there needs to be a limit. I

1002
01:20:55,360 --> 01:21:00,560
guess I just am I mean, do you think
individuals fine or do you think I'm

1003
01:20:58,480 --> 01:21:06,800
okay to go per household?
>> Well, and do you do it just based purely

1004
01:21:03,360 --> 01:21:12,000
off of your immediate family? You know,
if you have one, it's there's just three

1005
01:21:09,280 --> 01:21:14,880
of you, then that's all that you can
purchase is just a max of your immediate

1006
01:21:13,920 --> 01:21:17,120
family.
>> Yeah. you know.

1007
01:21:15,840 --> 01:21:20,159
» Okay. But what if I have married
children and I I mean are they

1008
01:21:18,800 --> 01:21:22,239
considered immediate family? So see you
know

1009
01:21:20,480 --> 01:21:25,600
» well wouldn't the married children share
your kids spot or would they have a

1010
01:21:24,000 --> 01:21:29,199
separate
>> I'm just saying I'm just saying there's

1011
01:21:27,679 --> 01:21:32,800
so many logistics
>> there there are but I mean would you I

1012
01:21:31,360 --> 01:21:36,000
think they would have to purchase their
own but don't you usually isn't it a

1013
01:21:34,400 --> 01:21:42,640
husband wife
>> plot or or are they buying they're two

1014
01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:47,040
separate plots there?
So when my brother died, my mom and dad

1015
01:21:44,960 --> 01:21:49,840
bought four plots
>> because people want to be able to be by

1016
01:21:48,400 --> 01:21:52,159
their family. I think that's one of the
big things.

1017
01:21:50,480 --> 01:21:57,679
» That's one of the things. But
>> that was that I thought at the time that

1018
01:21:54,159 --> 01:22:02,000
was Ellie bought four plots.
>> So was one of them.

1019
01:21:59,440 --> 01:22:05,280
» Well, the one Yeah, we got one. So my
mom and dad are buried right here and

1020
01:22:03,679 --> 01:22:10,296
then Jake's on the side of them and
there's one plot that's just there.

1021
01:22:08,276 --> 01:22:10,296
» [laughter]

1022
01:22:10,560 --> 01:22:20,121
» We'll have to fight over the plot. I get
>> or maybe we'll get buried with our

1023
01:22:14,400 --> 01:22:20,121
family and our own individ [laughter]

1024
01:22:21,600 --> 01:22:27,360
the rule could still stand with an
individual family. So my parents could

1025
01:22:25,440 --> 01:22:34,000
buy up to five three kids and two parent
two adults, right? However, I myself

1026
01:22:31,040 --> 01:22:39,120
could buy four two kids and my wife and
myself or whatever. So, I'm still

1027
01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:43,120
limited. I'm still able to be
I don't know. I don't know if that makes

1028
01:22:40,400 --> 01:22:46,480
sense, but I'm thinking like in in the
what was the example we were using? If

1029
01:22:45,360 --> 01:22:52,719
there were
>> Oh, yeah. Just just husband and wife

1030
01:22:48,960 --> 01:22:59,280
that wife could still still buy one in
the same area, but she would have to buy

1031
01:22:55,199 --> 01:23:03,280
it herself or I don't know is that like
it can still work.

1032
01:23:00,719 --> 01:23:06,800
» My my point is is like
>> Yeah. So what's your recommendation at

1033
01:23:04,960 --> 01:23:10,080
the end of the day then?
>> Mine

1034
01:23:07,840 --> 01:23:13,040
» I would say per household
>> how many per household

1035
01:23:11,840 --> 01:23:19,672
» four
>> but what if household has eight people?

1036
01:23:16,639 --> 01:23:23,440
» Well I have kids but I'm not
[clears throat] I'm not going to buy

1037
01:23:20,639 --> 01:23:26,880
that many because my my
are all the kids going to I don't know

1038
01:23:25,679 --> 01:23:29,360
it it just
>> you know I

1039
01:23:27,600 --> 01:23:33,760
» in all reality
>> I I agree Lesie. I think I think four

1040
01:23:32,080 --> 01:23:37,280
per household, you know, because that's
kind of one of those things kind of like

1041
01:23:35,840 --> 01:23:39,679
it's kind of like life insurance. You
know, you buy it but you really don't

1042
01:23:38,320 --> 01:23:44,960
want to use it. That's kind of that same
thing, you know. I I hope that you know

1043
01:23:42,480 --> 01:23:49,600
that if I have four plots, I I really
hope that, you know, just two of them

1044
01:23:47,360 --> 01:23:54,000
are used and, you know, and then, you
know, my kids are off, you know, doing

1045
01:23:52,000 --> 01:23:57,840
other things other place and, you know,
I hope that I don't have to bury a child

1046
01:23:56,000 --> 01:24:03,520
or anything that way where we would have
to use one of them. So, so I

1047
01:24:01,199 --> 01:24:06,760
» So, what do you do then? Do you turn
them back?

1048
01:24:08,080 --> 01:24:12,639
» Yeah. There's like a life associated
with that.

1049
01:24:10,560 --> 01:24:14,000
» So, and then when it goes
>> 60 years.

1050
01:24:13,360 --> 01:24:16,960
» Yeah.
>> Oh, 60 years.

1051
01:24:15,280 --> 01:24:20,159
» And then the city has the right to buy
it back at that time, frame.

1052
01:24:18,639 --> 01:24:24,000
» Are you saying purely though that it
would be pre-needed?

1053
01:24:21,199 --> 01:24:28,719
» Yes. So, so let's say that a family,
heaven forbid this happens, but they're

1054
01:24:25,760 --> 01:24:33,679
in a car accident and there's seven
people in the vehicle, six die.

1055
01:24:31,280 --> 01:24:35,600
» They can all get a a block. That would
be fine. So, it's at me.

1056
01:24:35,280 --> 01:24:38,239
» Okay.
>> So, they just can't just

1057
01:24:36,880 --> 01:24:42,858
» And if they had purchased some
previously, I would transfer those

1058
01:24:40,960 --> 01:24:46,159
somewhere else where they
[clears throat]

1059
01:24:43,120 --> 01:24:47,840
» So, this is just reserving
taking space.

1060
01:24:47,120 --> 01:24:52,320
» Yes.
>> Okay. I I feel better about that. I I

1061
01:24:50,639 --> 01:24:56,960
was a little confused on that. So, I
appreciate the clarification,

1062
01:24:53,600 --> 01:25:01,520
» but yeah, I I would definitely allow at
at need as many as needed. Um, and like

1063
01:25:00,239 --> 01:25:04,800
I said, if they had already purchased
some and they didn't have any space

1064
01:25:03,120 --> 01:25:08,960
around them, I would say, well, let's
move you and we'll just transfer that

1065
01:25:07,679 --> 01:25:12,400
» to somewhere else.
>> No, I I I think I'm good with it. I I

1066
01:25:11,520 --> 01:25:15,840
think
>> Yeah, because we don't want like because

1067
01:25:14,400 --> 01:25:20,560
there were some I know there were some
old family plots

1068
01:25:17,760 --> 01:25:25,040
» that had 16 or
20. I mean, there were just so many. And

1069
01:25:23,280 --> 01:25:29,280
then there were people that came in and
they really wanted to be buried by their

1070
01:25:26,560 --> 01:25:34,480
family, but these are all reserved and
not one single one was being used, you

1071
01:25:32,159 --> 01:25:36,800
know, and and then people didn't even
know

1072
01:25:34,880 --> 01:25:40,159
» and there's still a whole out there that
are families that

1073
01:25:38,080 --> 01:25:44,000
» So, is that when you put the 60-year
limit on it?

1074
01:25:41,920 --> 01:25:49,600
» That's when you did that. Oh, the
reclamation because because there wasn't

1075
01:25:46,719 --> 01:25:53,599
these were like early 1900s lots when
they did the reclamation because then

1076
01:25:51,040 --> 01:25:55,920
Phil went through and tried to
[clears throat]

1077
01:25:53,760 --> 01:25:58,719
» and it caused a lot of
>> anger.

1078
01:25:56,480 --> 01:26:04,800
» It did a lot of anger.
>> In fact, that anger is still out there

1079
01:26:01,679 --> 01:26:10,639
tax-free land. [laughter]
I I in addition to this I I really think

1080
01:26:08,719 --> 01:26:17,040
we still need to look at the cost of
what an out of town individual is. I

1081
01:26:13,679 --> 01:26:19,440
Monet just changed theirs at 6,500.
And what is ours at?

1082
01:26:18,639 --> 01:26:22,639
» 1500.
>> Yeah,

1083
01:26:21,120 --> 01:26:27,920
» 6,500.
That's what I was given

1084
01:26:25,040 --> 01:26:31,920
» as a number. Double check that. But
>> it is fact check.

1085
01:26:29,600 --> 01:26:36,560
» Fact check. I I do think your fees
should be somewhat

1086
01:26:34,864 --> 01:26:40,159
[clears throat] associated with the cost
that you have and I don't think there's

1087
01:26:38,239 --> 01:26:45,280
anything wrong with having a higher cost
for an out of city resident because we

1088
01:26:42,639 --> 01:26:48,800
purchase land for our residents and so I
I do think we should have a high enough

1089
01:26:47,040 --> 01:26:52,560
fee but I do think it should be
associated with something rather than

1090
01:26:50,800 --> 01:26:55,679
just a high number.
>> But I do think

1091
01:26:53,440 --> 01:27:00,080
» no yeah to that point though we do need
to have inventory for those and correct

1092
01:26:58,080 --> 01:27:04,800
the cost of land is getting crazy. Yes.
So, we actually do need to have a true

1093
01:27:02,080 --> 01:27:09,920
analysis done to make sure that the cost
or the uh revenues that we're bringing

1094
01:27:06,800 --> 01:27:14,400
in are going to enable us to make it so
many years and then enable us to also

1095
01:27:12,880 --> 01:27:20,239
purchase additional land somewhere else
for a new cemetery. So, we we need to

1096
01:27:17,520 --> 01:27:25,360
probably do that at some point. Um, and
make sure and the out of city out of

1097
01:27:22,560 --> 01:27:29,920
city fee and and and we've had kind of a
hard time with that because, you know,

1098
01:27:27,360 --> 01:27:35,600
let's say someone lives here for 35
years, gets a job, goes down to work

1099
01:27:32,560 --> 01:27:41,280
somewhere for 15 years, retires, and
then comes back to Nephi or, you know,

1100
01:27:38,719 --> 01:27:44,960
or something like that. and anyway or
they want they want to be married to

1101
01:27:42,560 --> 01:27:47,840
Nephi because they were they were here
for a long time and now they're being

1102
01:27:46,915 --> 01:27:51,600
[clears throat] charged a really
exorbitant fee but they were a valued

1103
01:27:49,840 --> 01:27:55,760
member of our community for 30 years or
something like that. I mean we just have

1104
01:27:53,120 --> 01:27:58,560
to balance those things out
but also make sure that we're we're

1105
01:27:57,679 --> 01:28:04,080
taking care of residents
>> and where costs are jumping. I'm

1106
01:28:00,800 --> 01:28:09,360
wondering if we can't also find uh and
dedicate I remember Phil would give us a

1107
01:28:06,719 --> 01:28:16,719
whole presentation back when he was
working here of a cremation garden.

1108
01:28:12,960 --> 01:28:21,920
» Yeah. Because it would just be nice to
>> Yeah. I mean that that's just it's so

1109
01:28:19,600 --> 01:28:24,159
much cheaper and there's a lot of people
that don't care. They're like, you know

1110
01:28:23,280 --> 01:28:28,239
what, it's my shelf.
>> There actually are a lot of creations

1111
01:28:26,639 --> 01:28:33,360
» and but they're taking full
>> I know. Are they taking full plots?

1112
01:28:30,560 --> 01:28:39,199
» No, a lot of them are having two. So,
two can be buried in a in a plot if if

1113
01:28:36,159 --> 01:28:43,199
it's cremation or you can have a casket
and a cremation

1114
01:28:41,199 --> 01:28:46,000
um
so

1115
01:28:44,239 --> 01:28:49,920
» yeah, we have a plan. Uh we've just
never really carried it out. I think

1116
01:28:47,280 --> 01:28:54,159
we're still reserving that space for
future uh column bearing, but we'll we

1117
01:28:53,040 --> 01:28:55,920
can bring that back. It's
>> column bar.

1118
01:28:55,199 --> 01:28:59,760
» Yeah,
>> I had a brochure.

1119
01:28:58,311 --> 01:29:04,206
[laughter] Some guy had brought me a
brochure and stuff walked by. Oh, it's a

1120
01:29:02,159 --> 01:29:07,040
column. I'm like, you know what that
[laughter]

1121
01:29:05,360 --> 01:29:11,520
» I had no idea what
>> too long in the bones after.

1122
01:29:08,880 --> 01:29:17,760
» I I know I've said this before, but it
still continues. I I doing hospice care.

1123
01:29:15,040 --> 01:29:22,560
A lot more people want to be cremated
and a really the game that's being

1124
01:29:20,320 --> 01:29:27,040
played is wherever the cheapest land is
to bury, if they're gonna bury, they're

1125
01:29:24,719 --> 01:29:31,199
going to go there. And it and it no
rhyme, no reason. I just know plots are

1126
01:29:29,520 --> 01:29:36,480
cheaper. And I don't
>> I think Yeah. If we're gonna I mean

1127
01:29:34,239 --> 01:29:40,480
that's adding expense to our citizens of
our community where we could be

1128
01:29:38,800 --> 01:29:44,400
basically saying if you want like you
said if you want to be buried here then

1129
01:29:42,480 --> 01:29:49,520
this is the reason why that plot is so
much because I mean up north 10 to

1130
01:29:46,480 --> 01:29:56,159
12,000 for a plot I mean for a you know
a place to put your

1131
01:29:51,760 --> 01:30:03,120
» mall is $6500 and it's 5,000 cheaper to
come 10 minutes south that's where do

1132
01:29:59,920 --> 01:30:07,920
you double do double will be
>> um only if it's a child on top.

1133
01:30:06,320 --> 01:30:11,600
» Okay.
>> A lot of cemeteries up north have

1134
01:30:09,840 --> 01:30:15,600
started because
>> I have a couple of relatives that are

1135
01:30:14,000 --> 01:30:19,679
double D.
>> So whoever dies first is on the bottom

1136
01:30:17,760 --> 01:30:25,440
and then whoever dies second is on the
top.

1137
01:30:20,960 --> 01:30:29,199
» That way the plots's one plot but boy
they charge her for the digging.

1138
01:30:28,702 --> 01:30:31,600
[clears throat]
>> Yeah. I mentioned they would have to go

1139
01:30:30,480 --> 01:30:34,480
deeper on that.
>> Yeah, they go down 12. But

1140
01:30:33,199 --> 01:30:39,199
» 12 ft. Wow.
>> Yeah. And it has

1141
01:30:37,280 --> 01:30:42,639
» And
yeah, and so they charge, you know.

1142
01:30:41,920 --> 01:30:46,480
» Yeah. For
>> sufficiently.

1143
01:30:44,400 --> 01:30:50,719
» I think we could use the back truck, you
know, for

1144
01:30:48,159 --> 01:30:56,880
» Yeah.
>> So, yeah, if you'll do some massaging

1145
01:30:52,639 --> 01:31:02,719
and working over on that and then uh
>> All right. Sorry. Um So the

1146
01:31:00,142 --> 01:31:09,760
[clears throat] one thing is right now
so I the certificate of burial rights um

1147
01:31:07,920 --> 01:31:15,120
can be issued upon completion of the
cell and it needs to be signed by me. Um

1148
01:31:13,360 --> 01:31:20,639
there isn't I mean we have the mayor's
been signing all of them. He doesn't

1149
01:31:17,199 --> 01:31:26,480
have to and if you want to I am we will
continue that way. I don't even care.

1150
01:31:22,320 --> 01:31:31,199
Um, I did take the notary off of it
anyway, just because that was a little

1151
01:31:28,880 --> 01:31:35,520
bit too much and it doesn't have to be
notorized [laughter]

1152
01:31:33,360 --> 01:31:39,440
because if if if you're signing it and
I'm attesting it, that works or I can

1153
01:31:37,760 --> 01:31:41,760
just sign it. So, it's a kind of I'm
just leaving that up to you. If you

1154
01:31:40,719 --> 01:31:44,960
would like to be involved in that
process, that is perfectly fine and

1155
01:31:43,679 --> 01:31:49,600
we'll continue that way.
>> Okay?

1156
01:31:45,520 --> 01:31:55,360
» So, just let me know on that. Um,
we currently buy back

1157
01:31:52,560 --> 01:31:58,159
um purchase lots if they're unused and
they don't want them anymore, we will

1158
01:31:56,560 --> 01:32:03,440
buy them back for the original purchase
price if they have their deed if or

1159
01:32:01,360 --> 01:32:10,480
their their burial right. If they do
not, we determine that administratively.

1160
01:32:06,960 --> 01:32:16,840
Um, I think right now for the older
deeds, it's like $75

1161
01:32:13,120 --> 01:32:16,840
to buy those back.

1162
01:32:18,400 --> 01:32:25,360
» Uh, to transfer [clears throat] burial
rights,

1163
01:32:21,760 --> 01:32:30,639
I have have to record it. I have to um
just make that I usually do an affidavit

1164
01:32:27,920 --> 01:32:34,800
if I'm having someone transfer a plot
that they own. And then they have to

1165
01:32:32,880 --> 01:32:41,199
turn in the PL or turn in their burial
right be issued a new one.

1166
01:32:38,880 --> 01:32:45,120
My question is is should we charge for
that [laughter] too? I don't know.

1167
01:32:43,440 --> 01:32:50,639
There's a lot of cemeteries that do
charge if people want to transfer

1168
01:32:47,520 --> 01:32:56,159
rights. I'm fine to just schedule on.
>> It's usually about $50 to $100

1169
01:32:54,800 --> 01:32:58,239
is what they charge.
>> It just be calculated based on staff

1170
01:32:57,679 --> 01:33:02,560
time.
>> Yeah. I mean I was going to say what

1171
01:33:00,239 --> 01:33:07,199
else what else what other cost would it
>> it's not I mean but we we do have to

1172
01:33:05,280 --> 01:33:13,120
have an affidavit we do have to you know
take that and then just create the rec

1173
01:33:10,880 --> 01:33:19,800
again so it's just
>> so I don't care if if you just wanted to

1174
01:33:15,120 --> 01:33:19,800
just do it I'm fine with that too

1175
01:33:19,920 --> 01:33:24,960
» no then just review we didn't know how
often you wanted to review them we know

1176
01:33:23,199 --> 01:33:28,719
you don't want them every meeting
>> I could do a monthly how many were sold

1177
01:33:27,280 --> 01:33:33,520
how
or once a year how many plots we have

1178
01:33:31,920 --> 01:33:37,320
actually left. I mean just I don't know
how often you would want

1179
01:33:38,560 --> 01:33:42,000
» quarterly.
>> I was thinking I was thinking of

1180
01:33:40,480 --> 01:33:45,560
quarterly actually is what I was
thinking. I would

1181
01:33:46,719 --> 01:33:52,480
» Yeah, quarterly would be good. Maybe
just a simple number that says number of

1182
01:33:50,960 --> 01:33:58,080
plots sold and then number
>> and I would designate also whether they

1183
01:33:54,320 --> 01:34:03,920
were um resident or non-resident
>> just so aware. So we would have an an

1184
01:34:00,239 --> 01:34:06,719
idea of are we selling more out of town
or

1185
01:34:04,639 --> 01:34:10,239
» Well, and then in addition to the sales,
could you just throw also just number of

1186
01:34:08,320 --> 01:34:12,880
burials that actually occurred too? So
that way we know

1187
01:34:12,000 --> 01:34:17,040
» you want to know.
>> Do we know the available inventory? Like

1188
01:34:15,360 --> 01:34:24,159
do we have a specific number?
>> Um I think there's a report I can pull.

1189
01:34:20,239 --> 01:34:29,360
I I was messing with it the other day,
but you know, my program's really

1190
01:34:26,639 --> 01:34:33,280
» That's [laughter]
so the new software would be great for

1191
01:34:31,120 --> 01:34:38,639
that because hopefully then we can get a
report because then we can actually map

1192
01:34:35,600 --> 01:34:41,120
out based off sales and things and then
how much land we want to be able to

1193
01:34:40,320 --> 01:34:46,880
acquire.
>> There's still quite a few lots

1194
01:34:45,440 --> 01:34:52,070
» really. I think
>> we'll call that for the Nephi plotter.

1195
01:34:50,050 --> 01:34:52,070
[laughter]

1196
01:34:52,320 --> 01:34:55,880
» I like it.

1197
01:34:56,320 --> 01:35:01,760
» Is that it?
>> Anything else?

1198
01:34:59,280 --> 01:35:05,199
» Yeah. No, quarterly is great.
>> Quarterly need to sign. A lot of cities

1199
01:35:03,679 --> 01:35:09,199
we found just have the recorder sign and
leave out. But if you want to sign,

1200
01:35:07,280 --> 01:35:13,679
we'll leave that spot.
>> Talking about [clears throat] pricing

1201
01:35:10,560 --> 01:35:18,320
and stuff would as far as changing out
of out of town owners and pricing, what

1202
01:35:16,400 --> 01:35:22,560
what would we need to do for that? I
would recommend that we do a full-blown

1203
01:35:20,000 --> 01:35:28,560
analysis of what we're bringing in, what
our future needs are, um, and and adjust

1204
01:35:25,600 --> 01:35:33,281
our whole fee structure based on that
analysis so that we just have something

1205
01:35:30,880 --> 01:35:35,040
to base it on rather than just say we're
[clears throat] just going to pick this

1206
01:35:34,080 --> 01:35:37,520
high number. Um,
>> right.

1207
01:35:35,840 --> 01:35:41,440
» You know, I I don't I think I think
you're welcome and you can charge a

1208
01:35:39,440 --> 01:35:46,000
higher fee. There's nothing wrong with
having a premium on that. My personal

1209
01:35:44,159 --> 01:35:50,159
opinion is it just it should be based on
something rather than just let's just

1210
01:35:48,000 --> 01:35:54,000
charge the heck out of non-residents.
>> Well, I agree. But even if I mean we

1211
01:35:52,239 --> 01:35:58,080
have some basis with our neighboring
communities.

1212
01:35:55,360 --> 01:36:01,440
» Well, if we do, but their basis is I
just want to charge the heck out of

1213
01:35:59,199 --> 01:36:04,719
non-residents, then
>> we're just basing it off that same

1214
01:36:02,800 --> 01:36:09,040
mentality. So, we I think if you have if
you can point to something and say this

1215
01:36:06,480 --> 01:36:13,920
is why we need it. this is why we need
$3,000 or $5,000, whatever you end up

1216
01:36:11,760 --> 01:36:17,920
deciding, is that it meets this
analysis, this need, because in X number

1217
01:36:16,719 --> 01:36:22,239
of years, we're going to have to go out
and purchase land for the cemetery.

1218
01:36:19,840 --> 01:36:28,719
» So, even with the new property tax rate,
will you remind me what the average tax

1219
01:36:25,920 --> 01:36:32,159
bill will be for the Nephi portion
portion? Is it like is it under 300

1220
01:36:31,520 --> 01:36:35,280
still?
>> Uh, no, it'd be

1221
01:36:34,719 --> 01:36:41,040
uh
>> or about 300. It was it was 300 and

1222
01:36:37,679 --> 01:36:44,719
something. Yeah. 300 something. So the
what I'm getting at though you our

1223
01:36:42,960 --> 01:36:50,000
residents get a lot of services for that
not just cemetery. So it's kind of crazy

1224
01:36:46,960 --> 01:36:55,440
to maybe make it that much more when
really our residents aren't paying that

1225
01:36:52,080 --> 01:36:59,199
much more for the you know when you look
at our property tax and different

1226
01:36:56,960 --> 01:37:02,480
things. So I
I don't know that's just kind of when

1227
01:37:00,800 --> 01:37:06,719
you do resident non-resident it's
usually because hey you're a taxpayer

1228
01:37:04,480 --> 01:37:09,440
that's why you get this for cheaper than
the

1229
01:37:07,040 --> 01:37:16,080
» we have another rate a utility rate is
that what it's called

1230
01:37:12,239 --> 01:37:18,800
those who are on Nephi city utilities
even if they live in the county they

1231
01:37:18,000 --> 01:37:22,000
» live in the dollar
>> better rate not quite the resident rate

1232
01:37:20,800 --> 01:37:25,600
but they do get a better rate than the
out

1233
01:37:23,040 --> 01:37:29,520
» okay
>> but I think if you do a full-blown

1234
01:37:27,440 --> 01:37:32,239
analysis. You just have some methodology
behind why you're doing what you're

1235
01:37:31,360 --> 01:37:37,440
doing.
>> Um, but I certainly agree that that

1236
01:37:35,280 --> 01:37:42,159
that's why the fee should be there is to
save the land for your residents.

1237
01:37:39,840 --> 01:37:44,800
There's just tricky situations with all
of that and that's something you guys

1238
01:37:43,360 --> 01:37:48,880
will want to think about.
>> I'm just alluding to the amount of

1239
01:37:46,880 --> 01:37:54,800
premium though. I mean, yes, there
should be a premium, but I mean, how how

1240
01:37:52,080 --> 01:37:59,119
much is fair when really that's what our
residents are paying, you know, but I

1241
01:37:57,040 --> 01:38:03,119
also like where you say the utilities
and such, too, because we do need to

1242
01:38:00,800 --> 01:38:07,679
factor in I think all of those the
cemeteries and stuff are being

1243
01:38:04,400 --> 01:38:13,119
subsidized by our utility funds as well,
you know, and so I think going off your

1244
01:38:10,159 --> 01:38:17,679
true costs and such and how much the
utility funds are putting to the

1245
01:38:14,880 --> 01:38:21,280
cemetery and the taxes is everything
that's going there. As long as those are

1246
01:38:19,040 --> 01:38:26,800
all accounted for in that analysis, then
I think you can make that jump the

1247
01:38:23,920 --> 01:38:31,199
premium that should be charged fairly to
the non-resident true non-resident

1248
01:38:29,478 --> 01:38:38,400
[clears throat] that's not contributing.
>> Yeah. And then you'd have some sort of

1249
01:38:35,119 --> 01:38:44,159
um set established rule of what
qualifies you to be a resident. Whether

1250
01:38:40,320 --> 01:38:47,199
that was like a 50% of your life was in
here or something like that's the

1251
01:38:46,159 --> 01:38:52,239
» that's the tough part.
>> That's the thing is I'm not going to

1252
01:38:48,719 --> 01:38:56,159
know the old people that that lived here
for a long time. I won't know that. I

1253
01:38:54,159 --> 01:38:59,608
just
>> Yeah. Um and it'll be

1254
01:38:57,520 --> 01:39:02,960
» bring your diploma. I did that.
[laughter]

1255
01:39:00,560 --> 01:39:08,833
» Hey, and I did find out they go back to
at least the 50s on diplomas.

1256
01:39:06,813 --> 01:39:08,833
[clears throat]

1257
01:39:09,433 --> 01:39:11,453
[laughter]

1258
01:39:13,920 --> 01:39:17,400
» Yeah, that's right.

1259
01:39:26,400 --> 01:39:33,013
» It's hard. And then you know cuz
>> to use the example I had so someone

1260
01:39:30,480 --> 01:39:37,199
who's lived here for you know 70 years
[laughter] went to St. George to retire

1261
01:39:34,719 --> 01:39:41,280
for three died and wants to be buried in
Nephi but now has a St. George address

1262
01:39:39,440 --> 01:39:45,040
versus, you know, someone that lived
their entire life in Salt Lake but

1263
01:39:43,040 --> 01:39:49,760
retired in Nephi, have lived for a year
and then died and were able to purchase

1264
01:39:47,679 --> 01:39:53,520
a plot based on a percent of a lifetime
like

1265
01:39:50,159 --> 01:39:57,679
» so yeah but again how do you how do you
demonstrate the proof of that? I I don't

1266
01:39:56,159 --> 01:40:01,920
know. It's that that'd be very very
tough. Um

1267
01:39:59,920 --> 01:40:06,560
» other
we could try to do that but

1268
01:40:03,840 --> 01:40:08,480
» some people it's just the Yeah, that's
just going to be the situation. I'm

1269
01:40:07,840 --> 01:40:11,119
sorry.
>> People lie. People lie, but it doesn't

1270
01:40:10,000 --> 01:40:13,360
make any idea
>> on there, right?

1271
01:40:12,320 --> 01:40:16,639
» On their Yeah.
>> This is a lying. We put it on their

1272
01:40:16,000 --> 01:40:20,320
tombstone.
>> Yeah. Liar.

1273
01:40:17,600 --> 01:40:24,239
» No, you [laughter]
>> could look at the tax records or

1274
01:40:21,920 --> 01:40:30,000
something.
>> Yeah.

1275
01:40:26,480 --> 01:40:33,929
» Tax records. He said said
tax records.

1276
01:40:31,760 --> 01:40:35,280
» Well, we could get that kind of thing.
[clears throat]

1277
01:40:34,560 --> 01:40:39,440
» Yeah.
>> We struggle to get that property.

1278
01:40:36,960 --> 01:40:41,840
struggle to get that kind of data
>> just automatically.

1279
01:40:40,320 --> 01:40:45,774
» Yeah, sometimes we don't get updated
data.

1280
01:40:43,754 --> 01:40:45,774
[laughter]

1281
01:40:46,320 --> 01:40:53,760
» Okay. Any more in that area then?
>> No.

1282
01:40:49,360 --> 01:40:59,360
» Okay. There there is a need for
a closed meeting for character and

1283
01:40:56,000 --> 01:41:04,000
confidence even individual litigation
and real property

1284
01:41:00,560 --> 01:41:08,400
» purchase of real property.
If

1285
01:41:04,159 --> 01:41:12,560
» someone make a motion that we Uh move to
close meeting for character and

1286
01:41:10,000 --> 01:41:18,320
competence of individ individual
litigation and purchase of

1287
01:41:15,920 --> 01:41:21,760
» second.
>> Oh,

1288
01:41:19,760 --> 01:41:24,000
» is it
roll call?

1289
01:41:22,239 --> 01:41:26,239
» It's a roll call. Just give me a second.
That was Travis with a second.

1290
01:41:25,600 --> 01:41:29,520
» Yes.
>> You know that. Thank you.

1291
01:41:27,640 --> 01:41:33,440
[clears throat] All right. Tate.
>> Hi, Jeremy. Hi,

1292
01:41:32,000 --> 01:41:36,440
» Travis. Hi, Shar.
>> Hi.

1293
01:41:38,880 --> 01:41:48,040
Okay. Uh, we are ready to go in close
meeting then.

1294
01:41:44,320 --> 01:41:48,040
» Thanks for coming out.

1295
01:41:49,280 --> 01:41:55,679
» Seth, did you have to call? Is he still
coming tonight? Thank you.