1 00:01:25,759 --> 00:01:29,479 I'll call to order. 2 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:34,960 I'll call to order the board of commissioners another Providence 3 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:38,680 Township meeting for June 12th, 2025. We'll start with roll call. 4 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:43,000 Morning FA, Township Manager. 5 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:51,360 Megan Burns, solicitor for Bob Scott tonight. 6 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:56,320 Max Cooper, Ward One Commissioner. Matt G, two, Pete Mackenzie, fourth W. Henry, 7 00:01:54,240 --> 00:02:01,040 W three. Shaina Barnes, fifth W. And good evening, Robert Okconor here from W 8 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:04,600 6. Candace Carbone, W 7. Please stand for the pledge of allegiance 9 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:17,160 to the flag of the United States of America to the stands 10 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:17,160 indivisible. 11 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:26,000 Our executive session will be held after the meeting tonight. Um, okay. This is 12 00:02:24,319 --> 00:02:29,599 officially our public hearing for the stop sign on Laurel Lane at Fairfield. 13 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:34,959 That I know that's further down in the agenda. Do we need to 14 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:39,040 I would hold the hearing right now and then further down the agenda you can 15 00:02:36,640 --> 00:02:45,040 make a vote um when it comes up. I think it's like 3A. Okay. So, is anyone here 16 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:48,959 um to discuss the stop sign at Laurel and Fairfield? 17 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:53,040 Since they are not, then we can we vote on it later or should we vote on it now? 18 00:02:51,519 --> 00:02:59,280 You can vote on it now, too, if you want to take it out of order. Okay. Agenda is 19 00:02:56,480 --> 00:03:06,120 that it's maybe yours. Yeah, we'll move back. Yeah. 20 00:03:02,319 --> 00:03:06,120 All right. Um, 21 00:03:06,239 --> 00:03:15,760 I will move to approve ordinance number 863 of the township of Nether 22 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:20,720 Providence, which provides that um there will be a stop intersection established 23 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:26,800 on Laurel Lane at the intersection with Fairfield Drive in both directions of 24 00:03:23,599 --> 00:03:29,920 travel. May I get a second? Second. Any comments or questions? I will just note 25 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:33,680 that the the neighborhood was very much in favor of this and has been to several 26 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:39,120 meetings. So, um I think that we're all comfortable that this is um something 27 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:44,239 the community wants. Y um all in favor, please vote by saying 28 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:48,720 I. I. Any opposed? That carries. Got a full board. 70. 29 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:52,799 All right. Thank you. Um next is public comment. Um I believe there are maybe 30 00:03:50,799 --> 00:03:56,319 several items that people are here for se public comment. And if um if you are 31 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:59,920 going to speak, please state your name and address for the record. Please try 32 00:03:58,319 --> 00:04:03,599 to keep your comments to about three minutes because we do try to keep the 33 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:07,280 board meeting going and if there's no need to sort of repeat if someone's 34 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:12,720 already made the point you are planning to make. Um so come on up. Who would 35 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:18,599 ever like to be first? Okay, everyone's just observing. Nope. 36 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:18,599 Nette's coming. 37 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:37,360 My name's Nette Witset and uh I'm here to 38 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:46,000 find uh some answers to the Martha Burton Park 39 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:56,400 project as well as Sappovitz Park. I sent an email to Moren about two weeks 40 00:04:51,040 --> 00:05:05,360 ago and a couple days ago she decided to answer the email. 41 00:04:59,199 --> 00:05:13,199 So, I sent her an email today and um one of the things that she mentioned in 42 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:21,680 the email was that Sarah Pec's donation was used between the two parks 43 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:30,080 when that money was only specified for Martha Burton's community park. It 44 00:05:25,759 --> 00:05:37,199 came out of media walks um contribution that she was making to 45 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:44,800 firsttime own home buyers and I asked her since we didn't get any could we use 46 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:51,759 it for the park. So the money was requested on my behalf 47 00:05:49,440 --> 00:06:00,639 and uh because I had asked was there money left 48 00:05:55,440 --> 00:06:08,720 to buy more plants for the garden. Um, so I I'd like to find the original grant 49 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:12,479 and the engineering sketches for both parks. 50 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:18,319 And I'm questioning how you're saying the 51 00:06:15,280 --> 00:06:25,600 funds are gone when you're using material left over from other park 52 00:06:21,759 --> 00:06:33,919 projects to refurbish Martin Birther's community park. For example, the fence 53 00:06:29,280 --> 00:06:41,080 and the gravel came from other park projects within the community. So, no 54 00:06:37,039 --> 00:06:41,080 money was spent. 55 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:49,280 Uh, and the walking path that goes around 56 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:56,720 the perimeter of the park, according to the sketch that I have, that walking 57 00:06:52,560 --> 00:07:03,039 path was only to go from the entrance to in front of the gardens to the picnic 58 00:06:59,599 --> 00:07:09,759 grove, which Dave had said before he left that they weren't going to be able 59 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:13,840 to do the picnic grove because it fell out of the boundary. countries of of the 60 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:21,360 poor. Um so uh 61 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:29,039 that that money should still be in the pot because it's not being used for the 62 00:07:24,639 --> 00:07:35,120 picnic roof which would be tree removals and and and grading and buying picnic 63 00:07:33,599 --> 00:07:40,400 tables. Uh the lighting fixtures need to be 64 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:47,599 relocated due to the covering of the trees. 65 00:07:43,919 --> 00:07:55,280 One is not even visible and the other one doesn't light up the park 66 00:07:52,160 --> 00:08:02,160 and uh the fence has one panel. 67 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:09,440 Now, public works said that that's all they were told to put up was one panel. 68 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:18,160 But if you look at the sketch, the fence goes along the path of the outside of 69 00:08:14,639 --> 00:08:24,160 the garden, which would cover the rain garden through the native plant garden. 70 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:29,680 Yeah. I Let me Can I just make a couple comments before um maybe I'd like you 71 00:08:26,879 --> 00:08:33,440 not to interrupt me. You can wait until I'm done. Okay. 72 00:08:31,919 --> 00:08:38,159 Please keep it to three minutes and then we we can have a productive discussion. 73 00:08:35,519 --> 00:08:46,880 Um, you you relocated a tree and it died 74 00:08:42,959 --> 00:08:54,240 and aren't you supposed to plant two new trees when a tree is removed per the 75 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:58,480 tree committee? Isn't that part of the township's 76 00:08:56,320 --> 00:09:06,160 uh policy? which no trees have been planted or does 77 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:10,880 it seem by marine that there's any money left to go into Martha Burton's 78 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:17,200 Community Park? Um the trees that are there need 79 00:09:14,399 --> 00:09:26,800 protection from the deer that are rubbing on the trees which will cause 80 00:09:21,519 --> 00:09:34,240 them to die or they could get funguses. Um the 81 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:41,440 swing, the merry ground and the seessaw were to be repainted 82 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:48,399 and the tires under the seessaw need to be raised up or removed. It's my 83 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:53,519 understanding that they're not allowed anymore in playgrounds. 84 00:09:51,040 --> 00:10:01,680 So some other padding would have to be made or more wood chips put down. The 85 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:10,640 totem poles that were placed where the fences they were made by 86 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:17,120 Smarty um Ellen Mgrim's group on Monday and they were donated to the park. 87 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:24,720 It's my understanding that I was told that they were placed 88 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:31,600 where Ellen said to put them, but Ellen only told me that they were for a park 89 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:37,920 and it was up to us to decide where they were going to be placed and certainly 90 00:10:34,560 --> 00:10:44,320 not along where the fence should go. They should be in the garden and 91 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:50,640 dispersed throughout the park. Um 92 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:58,560 the the new platform uh has a metal black picnic table which you know 93 00:10:54,160 --> 00:11:05,839 attracts heat. So it is unbearable for the children to sit on during the day. 94 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:11,880 An umbrella needs to be purchased for it to be usable. 95 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:11,880 And um 96 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:25,120 the the garden needs to have a retaining wall put in because right now it's just 97 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:33,680 the end of the garden and then the walkway which whenever it rains it the 98 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:41,120 soil is eroding down into the into the gravel. So without a retaining wall put 99 00:11:37,680 --> 00:11:46,959 there, that'll just continue to happen, which will cause the flooding to still 100 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:54,480 happen where the new equipment is placed. As for Sappovitz Park, 101 00:11:51,680 --> 00:12:01,440 there was to be a walking path from the upper courts to the lower courts to make 102 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:05,519 the entrance ADL compliant and to stop the soil erosion from the top of the 103 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:12,480 hill. That causes a runoff and it pools at the 104 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:19,279 bottom. Right now, there's a large tree root 105 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:29,160 from the storm that is still there and a gaping hole. And that storm was over two 106 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:29,160 months ago and it hasn't been removed. 107 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:42,240 Um, so it it's it's unsafe and it's not uh it's not protected by yellow taping 108 00:12:38,959 --> 00:12:48,800 to keep kids from running down the hill and falling into the hole. And it's not 109 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:56,560 it's no protection there. It's just a gaping hole from a 100year-old tree that 110 00:12:52,560 --> 00:13:03,720 fell down during the storm. And there was no mention of a softball 111 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:03,720 field. 112 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:15,120 And there was to be an ADL swing put up. And there was also no mention of 113 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:22,000 enlarging the half court, just repainting and repairing the basketball 114 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:28,079 hoops. And there was to be picnic tables added as well as grills. a water 115 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:35,120 management system to stop the water flowing from the underground pipe into 116 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:41,279 the stream. And there was to be stream restoration to reopen the stream so that 117 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:47,440 the water can flow down away from the lower field entrance of the park. Any 118 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:53,920 changes to the plan should have been approved by the state and James and I 119 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:59,440 should have been notified to get our feedback in the community on the 120 00:13:56,240 --> 00:14:07,120 proposed changes to the parks. When were we taken out of the loop? 121 00:14:04,560 --> 00:14:10,560 So, the final plans um are available and we will certainly share them with you. I 122 00:14:08,959 --> 00:14:14,079 mean that these are both grant-f funed projects that had to be approved by the 123 00:14:12,399 --> 00:14:18,560 state and as they move through the process there are some changes that are 124 00:14:16,560 --> 00:14:23,440 made based on the discussions and the you know the the states and county or 125 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:27,519 whoever is authorizing the grant. So I think the best next step is to get you 126 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:31,600 those documents and you can look at them because you know similar to any project 127 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:37,360 there are many sketches along the way and many ideas. Um I think your comments 128 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:41,600 related to two different parks. Um and so we will certainly get you the plans 129 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:44,880 for marked the Burton and Sepitz and we can go from there you know and and we 130 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:48,800 can certainly get you all the grant documentation which shows the cash uh 131 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:53,040 match that the township needed to pay for No. If you would like I also 132 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:58,000 wouldn't like you need to be at the microphone if you'd like to speak. 133 00:14:55,760 --> 00:15:00,959 Um, and so I I think you can have another maybe another minute, but I 134 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:03,920 think what would be most productive is to share those documents and go from 135 00:15:02,639 --> 00:15:09,760 there because, you know, we can't sort of litigate it based on some ideas or or 136 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:13,199 sketches or things of the past. So, um, let's do that. You know, like you said, 137 00:15:11,519 --> 00:15:19,199 you just probably sent Moren an email today, so there's really been no time to 138 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:24,240 react to that. So, we would also like to have a copy of the working budget for 139 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:29,440 this year. I believe that's on the website. Is it? Yeah. So you're you're 140 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:34,399 everyone has access to that. Please do take a look at it. We would we welcome 141 00:15:31,279 --> 00:15:38,160 you to. We want the copy of the budget that you're using which is on the 142 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:41,040 website. Yeah. I mean that's that's a public 143 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:44,160 document and all the all the meetings where we discussed it's all public. 144 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:48,000 There's no there's nothing to hide there. It's we have the same document 145 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:55,440 you do. That's how it works. So the grants are over three years old. They 146 00:15:52,480 --> 00:16:01,199 were awarded three years ago. That's probably the Stapovich grant was I 147 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:06,720 believe 400 and some change and Martha Burton was 148 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:11,519 two. They're very expensive and they take a very long time. You are 149 00:16:07,839 --> 00:16:18,880 definitely right about that. And the changes that are being done to both 150 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:22,399 parks are not in accordance to the sketches that were submitted. Well, they 151 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:26,480 are in accordance with the plan that was approved by the state and the the 152 00:16:24,399 --> 00:16:30,480 whoever's overseeing the grant. And so that's really what we legally are bound 153 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:33,199 by. Um, and so I've been to both parks. I think they're looking great. We've 154 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:36,480 actually got a ton of positive comments about both. I'm very sorry if you're 155 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:40,240 unhappy about them. There are certain things that if they're brought in a 156 00:16:38,079 --> 00:16:44,000 productive way, like certain areas needed shading. The Boy Scouts, 157 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:46,800 especially the Eagle Scouts, are always looking for projects. That sounds like a 158 00:16:45,279 --> 00:16:50,160 great Eagle Scout project. So, we would like to collaborate in a productive way 159 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:54,720 on certain things like that. But I think we all need to start from scratch, which 160 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:58,800 is getting the the grant documents that were approved by the state. And so I 161 00:16:56,560 --> 00:17:02,959 think we're gonna probably start there and then um we can continue this 162 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:09,679 conversation. So is anyone else here for public? When will that happen? When are 163 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:14,720 you proposing a meeting? I think Moren can send you the documents 164 00:17:11,439 --> 00:17:20,559 and then we can go from there. Yeah, I think we're requesting a meeting 165 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:24,799 between our ward leader, the township manager, and Marine, please. I think I 166 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:28,000 have a problem with a sitting school board member coming here and attacking 167 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:33,360 us and accusing us of misappropriating money. I got a huge problem with it. I'd 168 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:36,080 like to take you misappropriating money. Take a tour of the school district 169 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:39,520 facilities, which are in utter disrepair. The school district has a 170 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:42,640 hundred million dollar budget. We put hundreds of thousands of dollars into 171 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:46,000 this park. The community has been involved. Our public works has been 172 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:50,720 working hard. It's not done yet. It's ongo. We will get you the documents. 173 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:54,880 What? What? It's the hostility. Please, your your public comment is is over at 174 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:58,559 this time. Whoever would like to come up next, please state your name and address 175 00:17:56,400 --> 00:18:03,919 for the record. And it's not first time. Your com your 176 00:18:01,679 --> 00:18:08,480 public comment is no is over. Whoever else would like to come up, please state 177 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:11,480 your name and address for the record. All right. 178 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:22,720 Hey everybody, James Mason. Not supposed to say my address, right? 179 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:28,480 Just my address is helpful. Yes, I'm sorry. Yes, address is helpful. Oh, my 180 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:35,600 address too. Yeah, and cell phone. Did you say is helpful is helpful? Address 181 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:38,720 cell phone. Just for record, we we like to make we like to make sure public 182 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:44,960 comment is generally contained to residents. 613 West. Thank you. 183 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:52,080 Um I don't really have a lot to say, but 184 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:57,520 thank you for you know handling um the last discussion. I think the budget 185 00:18:55,520 --> 00:19:02,160 would us going over the budget I think would 186 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:06,960 help people at least start to feel better that they understand what you 187 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:12,160 know what money's allocated some places. I don't think that's the answer to 188 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:17,679 anything. um in from what I heard I I get the impression that um you know 189 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:21,840 we're we're talking about things after they've already finished but being there 190 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:27,760 while it's going on would have been a lot better and I don't know I don't know 191 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:33,039 the the committees too well so if involvement on let's say parks committee 192 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:37,600 or a this committee or whatever by c citizens in that area if that 193 00:19:34,799 --> 00:19:42,480 involvement would help them or us understand what's going on at the time 194 00:19:39,679 --> 00:19:49,280 and be more involved in that. Would that be a step in the right direction? So, I 195 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:52,480 I think we like to get community input on certain things and on the parks is 196 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:55,440 certainly one of them and being on the parks commission, you know, you can 197 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:59,200 provide more input, but at the end of the day, decisions need to be made based 198 00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:03,679 on the funding available and the the objectives of the grant and sometimes 199 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:07,039 things change and it's not necessarily, you know, there's there's no intention 200 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:11,679 to cut community out I mean, things need to be streamlined and move along. And 201 00:20:09,039 --> 00:20:15,039 so, I don't I don't know specifically, you know, there there were a long list 202 00:20:13,360 --> 00:20:20,160 of things that seems like some things were maybe placed in a place that we're 203 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:23,840 not happy with, but generally the ideas from start to finish with both of these 204 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:27,919 projects were were pretty similar, you know, and so I I think when we're sort 205 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:31,280 of bickering over the details, I'm not sure if I could tell you where there's a 206 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:34,960 place for you to insert yourself that would have changed that result. you 207 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:39,200 know, a lot of it's engineering based or um just working with the engineers on 208 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:44,320 the other side at the state. I think um we have a new public works director who 209 00:20:41,360 --> 00:20:49,520 is um I think easy to communicate with. So if there are certain things um that 210 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:53,919 the community would like to discuss, we could get him involved. I will say that, 211 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:57,039 you know, yelling and screaming at our public works crew while they're working 212 00:20:55,280 --> 00:21:01,120 at the parks is completely inappropriate and it's something that is going to be 213 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:05,600 addressed going forward. um there's zero tolerance for that. And so the and the 214 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:10,480 crew they they make no decisions. They are told what to do and so they they 215 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:14,559 will have no real input other than I was told to put this here. And so that's not 216 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:19,760 the time or place to be discussing anything that you have concerns or 217 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:22,720 questions about. Um if you have things to discuss in a productive manner, I 218 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:26,880 think the public works director would be happy to talk those things through. 219 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:30,880 Yeah. And I agree with you. I'm not trying to say that um 220 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:34,799 involvement in the committees would change things, but if it improves 221 00:21:33,039 --> 00:21:38,480 communication, I think so. Might avoid this. Yes, for sure. I think that's 222 00:21:36,159 --> 00:21:42,559 right. Yeah. Um that's all. Oh, actually, no, I have one other comment. 223 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:45,360 One person did notice this, and again, this is talking about something after 224 00:21:43,679 --> 00:21:49,840 the fact, and I don't think there's anything we can do about it now, but the 225 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:53,760 uh the infield was was redesign done at Sepitch and looks really nice, and I 226 00:21:51,679 --> 00:21:57,600 like the drainage. Not until after I was done did I notice that. And maybe it's 227 00:21:56,400 --> 00:22:01,039 the way baseball script is supposed to be because I don't know anything about 228 00:21:58,559 --> 00:22:05,360 baseball. The infield is it's got to be at least this much higher than you know 229 00:22:03,360 --> 00:22:09,120 it's like a real slope. Well, was that a drainage thing, Charles? You could 230 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:15,000 probably advantage 231 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:15,000 back, 232 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:33,600 you know, phase two, phase three, whatever would be the back stops, 233 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:36,799 dugouts, and so I think we've applied for separate 234 00:22:35,360 --> 00:22:40,559 grants to redo through the softball field sort of in totality. I think our 235 00:22:39,120 --> 00:22:44,559 grant that we had outstanding was denied. Um it is still one of the 236 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:47,679 projects that we plan to continue to try to pursue. So I think that this like 237 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:52,400 Charles is saying is temporary and probably related to the drainage and 238 00:22:49,919 --> 00:22:57,679 again that's feedback right knowing that feedback you know we would I would have 239 00:22:54,720 --> 00:23:04,280 given that answer before. Yeah. Anyway, thank you James. 240 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:04,280 Okay. Anyone else for public comment? 241 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:20,720 Good evening. My name is Joseph Harour, 428 Washington Avenue. And um I want to 242 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:24,880 preference my comments uh really with a question because what I came up here to 243 00:23:23,039 --> 00:23:31,200 discuss um was the status of Sappit Park 244 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:37,440 specifically as it pertained to the softball field and also a memorial that 245 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:43,200 had been planned and discussed several times over the last decade 246 00:23:41,039 --> 00:23:50,919 in in regards to that. It's really two separate things. Um, 247 00:23:46,559 --> 00:23:50,919 one I believe is definitely 248 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:09,760 and also Mr. Grady where we actually plotted out what the infield would look 249 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:13,919 like and this was after a request to us which we complied with to go down and 250 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:18,559 take those proper measurements. So the reason why I preface it with a 251 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:24,240 question is because I just may be ill informed on what the status of it is 252 00:24:20,799 --> 00:24:28,720 because there has been seems to me and I'm only speaking for myself as a 253 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:32,559 disconnect between what's going on in the park and the things that I know I've 254 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:39,760 discussed with various people on the board. Our faces have changed over the 255 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:43,919 last decade, but for instance, the one memorial that we had actually planned 256 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:50,080 for the softball team that played down there, uh the original plans didn't even 257 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:54,640 involve us coming to the township for any kind of donation. We actually had 258 00:24:52,880 --> 00:25:00,159 plans set to where we were going to raise our own. And the problem was and 259 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:04,400 the conflict was we just wanted to know where we could place it because we 260 00:25:02,159 --> 00:25:08,320 didn't want to get it set into place with the pending changes that were 261 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:13,919 eventually going to have to settle this party. Now, 262 00:25:11,039 --> 00:25:18,799 in the midst of all that, we kept getting put off and saying, "Well, wait 263 00:25:15,919 --> 00:25:23,520 until this comes in or wait until that money is appropriated." and which we 264 00:25:21,120 --> 00:25:30,480 were fine with that. But see, now we're 10 years in and it seems like there are 265 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:34,480 things happening in Sabbath Park, but they're moving on without any 266 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:39,440 consideration to what was already promised to us because we didn't 267 00:25:36,799 --> 00:25:44,240 specifically come down there to ask for anything new other than that memorial. 268 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:49,279 The backs stop and the benches were things that were already there and were 269 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:54,480 removed but not replaced. So that's all we were asking for. reason why I had a 270 00:25:52,400 --> 00:26:00,159 conflict with it or at least a question about it is because uh 271 00:25:58,159 --> 00:26:07,279 almost last April I was here the same exact 272 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:12,400 discussion, the same exact presentation and right prior before I spoke there was 273 00:26:09,919 --> 00:26:18,080 a group of Boy Scouts that came up with their proposal for Leaper Park and 274 00:26:16,559 --> 00:26:23,440 they were giving the same information that I was giving but then I looked at 275 00:26:21,279 --> 00:26:28,480 subsequent plans that had actually been put forward and actually completed and 276 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:32,400 so quite naturally I'm like well what happened to us because that was 277 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:36,559 something that was literally brought up last year. Are you talking about the boy 278 00:26:34,559 --> 00:26:39,600 the Eagle Scout project at Leaper? So they they pay for that. They do that 279 00:26:38,159 --> 00:26:43,120 themselves. I mean we might have given a small donation but the softball field I 280 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:46,240 remember you speaking um we applied for a grant right after that. I mean it was 281 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:50,320 it's a great idea and it's great history and we pretty quickly thereafter applied 282 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:54,559 for a grant which was recently denied. I mean that was right. Well, I'm not that. 283 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:58,480 I'm just saying that none of that was unbeknounced to us. So, all we can see 284 00:26:56,559 --> 00:27:03,760 is certain things happening in the field and a lot of people don't know what's 285 00:27:01,120 --> 00:27:08,240 going on. Did the project get cancelled? um specifically like before I leave here 286 00:27:05,919 --> 00:27:13,679 tonight, I I I want a specific name and contact person so that I can work in 287 00:27:10,559 --> 00:27:17,919 conjunction with whatever you're doing and assist where I can, but and 288 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:22,080 specifically though to make sure that the things that were already promised to 289 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:26,400 us don't get left by the wayside because I've been at pretty much every one of 290 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:29,840 these community functions to lend my hand and get dirty with everyone else. 291 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:33,600 And there was a couple times where literally at this park they were playing 292 00:27:31,919 --> 00:27:39,360 trees. So I'm like, "No, pitchers mouth." No, second base. So it seemed 293 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:44,640 like our consideration completely brushed aside. 294 00:27:41,360 --> 00:27:48,799 So I just want to make sure that one, we understand what's going on down there 295 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:54,080 and that's fine. Um I have no dispute with what you've already said, but we 296 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:57,360 did have plans, you know, in place. At least that was my understanding and I 297 00:27:56,159 --> 00:28:01,039 just want to make sure that we're not getting left behind with everything else 298 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:05,679 that's going on. No, I think there's there's two sort of there was the grant 299 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:09,360 that that was approved and that grant is very old. I mean that that's maybe more 300 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:13,440 than three years old, maybe like six or seven years old. The initial SAP of its 301 00:28:11,279 --> 00:28:19,039 grant um and that work is just being completed. It was delayed many times for 302 00:28:15,919 --> 00:28:22,399 several reasons. Um and so that is the plans that we were going to get for 303 00:28:20,799 --> 00:28:27,520 Nanette and we can hap we can get those for you too. So you can see what the 304 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:32,399 state approved um as far as that grant. I'm sorry. Ste's 305 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:38,720 wage grant. Was that the one we used there? So, it's it's the DCNR grant. So, 306 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:43,520 um we can get you, you know, a copy of those documents. Um and then like I 307 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:47,919 said, secondarily after you spoke last year, um I can't speak to what happened 308 00:28:46,159 --> 00:28:50,559 before that. I I I don't recall discussions about the softball field 309 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:54,320 since I was on the board before that, but when you brought it to us last time, 310 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:58,960 it was a great idea and we initiated a new grant round that um and so I think 311 00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:02,720 to do all of the changes that you discussed with it sounds like maybe Dave 312 00:29:00,559 --> 00:29:07,840 and Charles we would need grant funding for uh if you guys wanted to raise funds 313 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:11,600 for certain things. I mean we we could work out it sounds like Charles has 314 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:16,720 already somewhat laid out what the field would look like and so I think 315 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:21,520 that was what you're referring to is the back stop and the bench is being 316 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:25,279 replaced. Yeah what I understand but the bottleneck when it just came to 317 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:28,399 to the memorial because we weren't asking for any funds. We just wanted to 318 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:33,600 know where we could put it. Well it sounds like there's been a design now 319 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:37,760 the other things that are being Charles is that something we can do now based on 320 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:43,000 the Okay. Yeah. 321 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:43,000 Yeah. 322 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:52,399 That was our concern. Fair enough. That's I mean, but I think what I need 323 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:56,080 is someone that I can Yeah, you should you should contact Moren, the township 324 00:29:53,679 --> 00:30:01,760 manager. Sorry. Moren, the township manager. Sorry. Her information's on the 325 00:29:59,039 --> 00:30:04,799 on the website. It seems like what it just reading between the lines here, it 326 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:08,880 seems like what maybe happened before was that there was concern about placing 327 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:13,039 the memorial before we had, you know, really good plans about the so for the 328 00:30:10,799 --> 00:30:17,120 softball field. It Charles has now done that. You know, he's he's has enough 329 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:22,480 information he's saying to know where things will go when the grant eventually 330 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:25,840 hopefully gets funded. So, she and Moren and Charles can work with you and get 331 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:30,080 the memorial placed. So, in the meantime, October, it also seems like 332 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:33,200 there's just some confusion due to the length that the grants have been 333 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:36,320 outstanding of um what's been done and what still remains to be completed. So, 334 00:30:34,799 --> 00:30:41,440 I think maybe one of the things our engineer and our managers can do is um 335 00:30:38,799 --> 00:30:45,760 for each grant, put a list together of um what's been done thus far under the 336 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:50,240 grant, what remains to be done, and then we can share that community and then and 337 00:30:48,559 --> 00:30:53,919 then if there's any questions or discrepancies, we can go through that 338 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:56,559 together. And then like the idea for the memorial, which is a great one, you 339 00:30:55,360 --> 00:31:00,559 know, maybe that's something we can get moving on now, too. But I just think we 340 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:03,600 just got to get the information out there. So, I think if we put a list 341 00:31:01,679 --> 00:31:08,080 together, that would be helpful. Okay. One quick question. So, based on my 342 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:15,120 address, I'm in the third board, correct? So, so that that makes you the 343 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:19,840 third board. So, the board I'm I'm the third board commissioner. Okay. Beth 344 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:23,039 Henry, I'm sorry. Beth Henry. Okay. So, you're welcome to talk to Beth, but sort 345 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:25,520 of the day-to-day like going out and meeting and planning and discussing 346 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:30,720 would really be our engineer and the township manager. Yeah. 347 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:34,880 Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Anyone else for public comment? 348 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:40,159 All right. Um, we have an opening on our historical 349 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:44,480 commission. If you are interested and excited by historical things, please 350 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:47,760 reach out. Um, we do not have any minutes to approve tonight. Is there 351 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:50,880 anything on the solicitor's report not otherwise on the agenda? No, there is 352 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:56,760 not anything on the engineers report not otherwise on the agenda. 353 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:56,760 That is that a yes. 354 00:31:59,919 --> 00:32:07,840 And on the West Road Valley West Valley road safety they did get 355 00:32:05,919 --> 00:32:13,200 back I mean for some dates to meet the end of August 356 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:21,200 June 24th or 25th. So I'll pass that around this let them know. And then the 357 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:26,880 other one is u Manchester Crosswalk for a while. Um 358 00:32:24,159 --> 00:32:32,960 Pendot permanent expect by the end of this week tomorrow. Thank you. 359 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:37,039 for application protocol strap has so when you when you talk to pendot will 360 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:43,200 they be able to talk about um the issue at null and whatever that is um turner 361 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:46,840 or is that is that a different group doesn't know about that yet 362 00:32:48,399 --> 00:32:51,880 we've got a sinkhole 363 00:32:53,279 --> 00:33:01,120 all right yeah I mean that's we've got to get that taken care of um okay thank 364 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:05,519 Um on to government relations committee report with commissioner Cooper. 365 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:09,440 Thank you very much McKenzie. Um there's a lot of meat uh to discuss in my 366 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:16,399 section today. We have uh several guests who have come to provide some comment um 367 00:33:12,399 --> 00:33:21,519 for that as well. Um so what I'll do is um we'll just kind of bullet out what 368 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:25,840 I'm I'm going to be discussing. Um we have a resolution that I'm going to 369 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:32,000 introduce uh and that I will ask the board to pass. The resolution will be to 370 00:33:27,919 --> 00:33:36,640 authorize uh either Kate or myself uh to sign uh an agreement which the details 371 00:33:34,399 --> 00:33:40,960 of which are still being kind of finalized. Um I'm also going to provide 372 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:44,880 kind of a brief overview of how we got here with EMS and then I'll ask some of 373 00:33:43,279 --> 00:33:49,519 our municipal neighbors uh from Swathmore, Rose Valley uh and Rutledge 374 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:54,559 to come provide comment. They uh wanted to introduce themselves uh kind of in 375 00:33:51,440 --> 00:34:00,399 the spirit of collaboration as well. So, um, as a reminder for, um, the rest of 376 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:03,760 our board, uh, when Croer closed, in addition to losing the acute care 377 00:34:01,679 --> 00:34:09,760 hospital, we lost 60% of our EMS services locally. That meant that we no 378 00:34:06,559 --> 00:34:14,079 longer had ALS, uh, coverage. Um, as a 90-day stop gap measure, the county 379 00:34:11,679 --> 00:34:18,879 placed a chase comp uh, in Swathmore, which has been providing ALS to us. Uh 380 00:34:16,720 --> 00:34:23,599 over the last few months, we've been having weekly uh EMS working group 381 00:34:21,359 --> 00:34:30,000 meetings with many of the people uh who are here um in which we've uh been going 382 00:34:27,679 --> 00:34:36,639 back and forth and finalizing uh details of a plan. That plan um is you know 383 00:34:33,839 --> 00:34:42,879 substantially um going to be what you see here in the what's the document 384 00:34:38,720 --> 00:34:47,200 labeled cost sharing agreement. Um, and you know, in summary, I think this plan 385 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:50,560 really, you know, I'm asking you to support it because I think it does two 386 00:34:48,639 --> 00:34:57,200 three things really well. I think it optimizes our cash flow. Uh, the plan uh 387 00:34:53,679 --> 00:35:01,920 that's here uh uses a model of ALS that will uh provide we believe the best 388 00:34:59,839 --> 00:35:07,359 mechanism for ongoing reimbursements to keep our costs low um into the future. I 389 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:11,359 think it keeps the kind of power uh local. This is u an agreement amongst 390 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:14,800 our near municipal neighbors, not an agreement with an outside contractor 391 00:35:13,359 --> 00:35:19,440 who, you know, could be difficult to communicate with. Um, and lastly, I know 392 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:22,720 we've been as a board and amongst several of our neighbors talking about 393 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:28,079 wanting to make progress towards more regional emergency services, fire, EMS, 394 00:35:26,079 --> 00:35:32,240 uh, whatnot. And I think, uh, you know, passing this resolution to adopt this 395 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:38,000 agreement, uh, takes us a step, uh, towards that. Um, so that is my, uh, 396 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:41,920 request. Um, there's several uh guests here. Uh, if you would like to come up 397 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:47,400 and introduce yourself and uh provide what comment you would like, I I welcome 398 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:47,400 you all to do that now. 399 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:08,400 Good evening. Um, I'm Jill Gesi from Swathmore Burough. I'm Swathmore Burough 400 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:12,720 President. I don't have any prepared remarks. I'm just here in support of the 401 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:18,160 resolution which we passed Monday the same week. Um, I would say beyond us 402 00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:22,079 being in a critical position where we have to provide this and want to provide 403 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:26,320 this for our residents, this is the trajectory we're on anyway, we're we've 404 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:32,240 all been working together for a long long time on fire consolidation. So, 405 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:38,720 this is handin glove I believe with that. and I trust our uh first 406 00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:42,880 responders, firefighters um and our EMS personnel and I think we can get the job 407 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:47,760 done and keep it local and it kind it's proof of concept from my perspective of 408 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:52,000 what we've been trying to do anyway. So I welcome your ascent in this 409 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:57,119 resolution. Thank you. 410 00:36:55,040 --> 00:37:02,160 Hi Kristen Seymour with Swathmore Bureau Council. First, um I would like to thank 411 00:36:59,920 --> 00:37:08,960 the board for sharing Max Cooper with us. He has been phenomenal. Uh he has 412 00:37:05,839 --> 00:37:12,400 led this charge both for this um I guess I don't really want to call it a 413 00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:16,560 band-aid band-aid solution, but for this short-term solution, which could 414 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:20,880 eventually lead us to full uh to have an authority, right, to to where each 415 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:25,839 municipality can appoint someone to a board. That would be the end goal in my 416 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:30,880 mind and I think in in many many's mind. Um, so thank you to Max and to Conland 417 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:34,800 and I hope that we can count on your support. Rose Valley passed this last 418 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:38,000 night unanimously. Sorry to steal your thunder, mayor, if you were going to say 419 00:37:36,079 --> 00:37:41,200 that, but we were so excited with Rose Valley passing this last night. And we 420 00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:43,440 hope that you guys can be the third. Thank you. 421 00:37:46,240 --> 00:37:52,079 Hi, I'm Sue Hunt, uh, Vice President Brett, 422 00:37:49,839 --> 00:37:57,839 and again, we're here to support your board in making your decision on this 423 00:37:54,960 --> 00:38:04,160 resolution. Rage will have their vote on Monday, which we anticipate will be an 424 00:38:01,119 --> 00:38:08,880 affirmative vote. We appreciate Max, all the work he has done, and uh, Chief 425 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:13,440 Ruth, what he has done and putting this together. we definitely need to do 426 00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:19,680 something and our little burrow of 800 people need we need someone to help us. 427 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:24,640 So thankfully this has come up and again as um 428 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:28,880 Kristen as Kristen said you know becoming a regional approach seems to be 429 00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:35,160 the way the world is going. So thank you for any consideration to this. 430 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:35,160 Thank you. 431 00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:44,560 I was just gonna reiterate what Chris said and and thank you for sharing Max 432 00:38:41,599 --> 00:38:51,280 because this has been uh vital work for a lot of different municipalities. Um 433 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:55,520 I'm the only non-elected um you to discuss this plan and I think the work 434 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:59,520 the electives have done has been vital. Um you know we've been meeting as Max 435 00:38:57,359 --> 00:39:02,400 said weekly. We've gone through a bunch of different iterations and 436 00:39:00,720 --> 00:39:08,320 considerations to try to come up with something that is fair for everybody. Um 437 00:39:05,119 --> 00:39:11,680 that allows us to offset costs by taking those insurance reimbursements and 438 00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:17,520 payments from individuals that utilize the service and then share that back to 439 00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:23,440 the municipalities so that the ongoing costs are less than um than just paying 440 00:39:20,720 --> 00:39:28,560 for a service. So um we want to make sure that that this is uh equitable. We 441 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:34,240 want to make sure that there is no delay in providing the service to all the 442 00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:39,119 municipalities. Um, and we believe that within this plan, we offset costs 443 00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:42,320 somewhere between a half and a third depending and it will be reviewed 444 00:39:40,720 --> 00:39:47,440 quarterly. And I'm sure Max will go into some of those specific details. But, um, 445 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:51,440 we appreciate your consideration and again, we're all here to be as 446 00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:55,359 supportive as we can um, and hope that we can work together on this and many 447 00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:59,480 more things in the future. Thank you. Thank you very much. 448 00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:07,119 Um, so as I said, Monday is our council meeting. If anybody would like to come, 449 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:11,800 we start at 7:30 at the Rutled Burrow Hall. So, thank you. Thanks. 450 00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:22,720 I just want to before you uh even speak, uh, thank Mayor Bill Hail of Rose Valley 451 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:26,480 for the substantial on the-fly line edits to resolution last night. They 452 00:40:24,720 --> 00:40:29,119 were very helpful. You and Matt Sullivan should take the show on the road. I was 453 00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:33,680 really impressed. Matt Sullivan's like the king of edits on the fly. Remember 454 00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:38,800 that? He used to always do that here. So, uh, I just want to go over kind of 455 00:40:36,720 --> 00:40:43,920 the meat of this thing to make sure everybody understands it. So, it's 456 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:48,160 really the, uh, five points after the whereas clauses in the beginning and I 457 00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:53,440 just going to we'll just go through them. Number one, this idea we have the 458 00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:56,480 I want to make sure everyone has the document pulled up correctly because I 459 00:40:55,119 --> 00:41:02,160 think there are multiple versions of the document build printed copies for Is 460 00:40:59,119 --> 00:41:09,839 this the 5.1? These one that we have. Okay. All right. We have Thank you. 461 00:41:04,720 --> 00:41:14,640 Okay. So number one, the ALS ALS advanced life support 462 00:41:12,240 --> 00:41:20,640 services budget shall be defined as the estimated quarterly costs providing ALS 463 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:24,640 services including operating costs such as salaries, benefits, insurance, 464 00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:31,359 training, supplies, and medical supervision. Capital expenses for 465 00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:37,599 equipment such as cardiac monitors. necessary upgrades to existing BLS 466 00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:41,200 ambulance to ALS capacity reimbursements such as those from 467 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:44,560 insurance companies and ind individuals and other forms of revenue such as 468 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:50,000 grants. The ALS services budget shall be updated 469 00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:54,319 quarterly by the fire department as data on actual operating costs, capital 470 00:41:51,920 --> 00:42:02,240 expenditures, reimbursements, and other revenues becomes available over time. 471 00:41:58,720 --> 00:42:05,920 Any questions on that? Number two, each meta each 472 00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:10,400 municipality's call percentage shall be defined as the percentage of EMS calls 473 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:15,440 located within that municipality during the prior calendar year relative 474 00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:20,319 to the total number of EMS calls within the municipalities during the year that 475 00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:24,000 year excluding the northern portions of Nether Providence Township and Rose 476 00:42:22,079 --> 00:42:29,760 Valley Burough where media fire company's ambulance is primary on the 477 00:42:26,720 --> 00:42:33,359 Delaware County 911 dispatch card system and and the western portion of Rose 478 00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:38,720 Valley Burrow where Brook Havens Fire Company Company's ambulance is primary. 479 00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:43,599 The call percentages shall be updated annually based on the Delaware County 480 00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:50,319 EMS call data for the prior calendar year. Any questions or concerns? So I 481 00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:54,720 just was um so this is assuming sort of what there are six municipalities right 482 00:42:52,000 --> 00:43:01,040 that were joining the five. So, Nether, Swathmore, Morton, Rutled, and Rose 483 00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:05,200 Valley are the five. Um, Nether's, you know, going to vote on it tonight. 484 00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:09,040 Swathmore and Rose Valley have already uh voted. Rutled Ridge will vote uh this 485 00:43:07,359 --> 00:43:15,440 coming Monday and Morton will vote on the 25th. Okay. And so then is the idea 486 00:43:12,319 --> 00:43:18,400 like moving forward that if there's other municipalities in the mix then 487 00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:23,760 they'll be brought into the discussion at that point? So, this document, 488 00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:28,240 this agreement, we really kind of view as a 17-month um kind of stop gap. 489 00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:33,359 There's a certain administrative simplicity to it um because we needed to 490 00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:38,640 build something that would be able to kind of take over in 90 days. Yeah, 491 00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:42,319 there's I would say kind of more complex administrative structures that we are 492 00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:45,599 considering such as like the emergency services authority that we've been 493 00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:51,520 discussing perhaps like the model that Mesa had that will take a significantly 494 00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:54,480 longer time to set up. In our conversation with them, it seems like 495 00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:58,720 they think it could take in the one to two year time frame. So, um, as we're 496 00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:04,880 talking about that, you know, one of the things that, um, I'd like to consider is 497 00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:08,720 we kind of pass this, which will hold its way for 17 months, and then the EMS 498 00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:14,720 working group can continue to have discussions to, you know, see if we can 499 00:44:11,599 --> 00:44:19,440 operationalize an authority potentially expanding the number of kind of members 500 00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:24,240 um, during those conversations. Okay, perfect. Sorry to interrupt you. 501 00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:28,160 Okay, any any other concerns with number two? 502 00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:34,400 Okay. Number three, each m each each municipality agrees to share the costs 503 00:44:30,720 --> 00:44:39,280 of the fire company's ALS ALS services budget in portions to its call 504 00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:44,079 percentage as set forth in the following table. And it gives the call 505 00:44:41,599 --> 00:44:50,880 percentages. It's 26 for Swathmore and Morton, 40% 40% for Nether Providence, 506 00:44:47,839 --> 00:44:54,880 5% for Rutledge, and 3% for Rose Valley. and you just proportion the total 507 00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:59,119 quarterly cost over the males. 508 00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:05,520 Uh the quarterly payment in the table for the third calendar quarter 509 00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:10,240 of 2025 conservatively assumes no reimbursements or other revenue for that 510 00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:14,720 quarter since reimbursement payments are going to be delayed. 511 00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:20,560 Although this agreement takes effect on August 1st, 2025 and ALS services must 512 00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:25,359 commence by that date, the fire company will be incurring expenses in July, 513 00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:31,119 purchasing ALS capital equipment and bringing paramedics on board. The ALS 514 00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:36,079 ambulance balance table shall be updated quarterly as ALS services budget is 515 00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:42,240 quarterly updated and the call percentages are annually updated. 516 00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:47,119 And so to clarify because we were talking about how revenue would be used 517 00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:51,520 to offset um the the kind of ongoing costs in a way to bring these costs 518 00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:56,319 down. So this is uh what you see here on page two would be kind of our initial 519 00:45:53,440 --> 00:46:00,960 payment and as revenues start to come in, you know, it takes a few months for 520 00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:05,760 the collection to to come in. Um those will be kind of allocated to these. So 521 00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:11,440 the quarterly payment we make for the fourth quarter at the end of 25 we 522 00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:16,640 anticipate to be less than this um for two reasons. One um there's five months 523 00:46:14,720 --> 00:46:21,200 uh that we need to cover unbudgeted in fiscal year 25. So one quarter is three 524 00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:25,359 months. This is three months worth of payment. So the last quarter will be two 525 00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:30,640 months worth of payment. And it'll also have beginnings of our collections in 526 00:46:27,599 --> 00:46:34,040 it. Um and so when you look at how much we would be 527 00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:43,760 There's the number. When you look at if we got zero collections, how much we 528 00:46:39,119 --> 00:46:48,760 would be paying um for the EMS services um in 25 it would be $126,244.87. 529 00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:54,880 Um but because reimbursements will start to roll in that actual amount that would 530 00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:58,800 pay maybe you know slightly less than that and then you know even less as more 531 00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:02,880 uh kind of payments come in into the beginning. So, do we have quotes like 532 00:47:01,119 --> 00:47:06,240 for the upfit of the ambulance? Like, are are we certain on those costs or 533 00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:09,760 we're pretty certain that they and they can do it by August 1st? So, I think 534 00:47:08,319 --> 00:47:15,359 some of those administrative questions were probably best answered by Chief 535 00:47:11,599 --> 00:47:19,359 Booth. Um, but I'll say um, you know, we have been internally kind of discussing 536 00:47:17,359 --> 00:47:23,839 that. We feel pretty good about the quotes based on uh, Chief Booth's kind 537 00:47:22,079 --> 00:47:28,560 of personal experience. you know, the the chief at Groger. Um, and some of 538 00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:32,640 these conversations have been externally validated by one of the largest EMS 539 00:47:30,319 --> 00:47:36,000 companies in the state, Tower Health. So, we kind of had multiple people lay 540 00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:41,280 eyes on this, but I'll let you answer this. Sure. So, we have um obviously 541 00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:46,400 done this multiple ways and there's been multiple iterations. So, we have the 542 00:47:43,839 --> 00:47:53,839 annual expected operational cost for equipment. Um, so we believe that to be 543 00:47:50,000 --> 00:48:00,000 on an annual basis 88,000 that includes a cost of $43,379 544 00:47:57,040 --> 00:48:03,599 for five years. Um, and that is for cardiac monitors that need to be 545 00:48:01,839 --> 00:48:10,720 purchased for the paramedics. Um, it's a 0% interest over a fiveyear term. So 546 00:48:07,119 --> 00:48:14,400 that 43,000 will end after a 5year we proceed over and like we have a quote 547 00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:18,800 for that that can just be accepted type thing or sorry say that again. So so 548 00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:23,280 that that's like a that's a set number like we can just sort of accept that. 549 00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:27,440 Sorry. Okay. in in the working group and preparing for all this. We went forward, 550 00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:32,960 we identified costs on the park vendor for medications, for uh we have a cost 551 00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:36,240 that we've set aside for medical directions. We have to have a medical 552 00:48:34,240 --> 00:48:40,400 director that authorized the paramedics to work underneath them. Um we have 553 00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:43,839 money set aside for training budget because paramedics have to have certain 554 00:48:42,240 --> 00:48:49,520 certifications and they have to do ongoing clinical education that has to 555 00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:55,359 be covered. Um and so with equipment, which is the monitors, with supplies um 556 00:48:52,480 --> 00:49:01,280 training, medical correction, the uh annual cost outside of payroll is 557 00:48:58,720 --> 00:49:06,079 88,379. The on the upfitting cost is 558 00:49:04,240 --> 00:49:11,119 significantly less than all those medications up front. That's an ongoing 559 00:49:08,240 --> 00:49:17,359 utilization. So, we anticipate except for the 43, which is a a fiveyear fixed 560 00:49:14,240 --> 00:49:22,960 cost, we anticipate the startup cost to be 18 to $22,000 561 00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:28,640 um to get the annual ready to go. Again, minus the 43 379, which is a a fiveyear 562 00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:32,000 fixed. Okay. Yeah, that makes sense. Thanks. 563 00:49:30,559 --> 00:49:35,280 Yeah, I just was trying to figure out like so it's there's sort of like a 564 00:49:33,599 --> 00:49:38,160 different between an estimate and like a bid ready to be accepted, right? like so 565 00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:41,839 there there there won't be like surprises in there. I think some of the 566 00:49:40,079 --> 00:49:47,119 a lot of the supplies like Striker gave you a quote and correctly quote from 567 00:49:44,319 --> 00:49:51,520 Striker. Um we went through our medical supply company and evaluated the cost of 568 00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:55,520 the medications and we actually purposely to make sure that we didn't 569 00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:59,359 have surprises in people's budgets. We didn't take our contract pricing. We 570 00:49:57,200 --> 00:50:03,040 took their publicly available pricing which is slightly higher. not by a 571 00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:07,280 significant amount, but so there is a buffer there in case that there's a 572 00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:13,760 price hike on a specific medication, etc. Um, so we within all of our power 573 00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:16,800 and control, we don't expect anything that's out of the ordinary. Obviously, 574 00:50:15,359 --> 00:50:21,599 there are things that we can't control, but we did our best to do due diligence 575 00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:27,280 on all the costs. Thanks. That makes sense. 576 00:50:24,559 --> 00:50:31,280 Um and yes, so I think Helen has a pretty good 577 00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:36,319 handle on the costs. Then the question is for the for the first quarter we're 578 00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:42,880 assuming no reimbursements and the question is how much will reimbursements 579 00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:49,119 cover in the subsequent quarters and I been talking to Colin and very roughly I 580 00:50:46,559 --> 00:50:53,920 think we could estimate in the fourth quarter of 2025 581 00:50:51,680 --> 00:51:00,240 it'll be about half the initial quarterly payment and in the four 582 00:50:57,200 --> 00:51:04,559 quarters of 2026 it'll be about a because now you got your reimbursements 583 00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:10,440 coming in regularly and um so it's going to be much lower than that initial 584 00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:10,440 payment going forward. 585 00:51:10,720 --> 00:51:17,440 Maybe it's helpful. So the way that we came to this uh evaluation is we 586 00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:21,359 identified the number of expected billable responses. So every time the 587 00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:25,920 ambulance gets called, it doesn't always result in the ability to send a bill to 588 00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:29,599 insurance. It may be um that we don't render care. It may be that there's no 589 00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:34,400 actual patient. someone called and there's no need for our services etc. So 590 00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:38,960 we identified the total number of calls in the uh affected areas that will be a 591 00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:42,559 part of this agreement. Um we did not take into account what we call mutual 592 00:51:40,319 --> 00:51:46,720 aid which is going into other areas that need our help when their assets are 593 00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:51,280 unavailable. So we took a conservative number of incidents that we would bill 594 00:51:49,359 --> 00:51:55,359 to insurance. We took our average reimbursement and we were conservative 595 00:51:53,119 --> 00:52:00,400 with that as well. We currently bill as a BLS entity. we would bill at a higher 596 00:51:57,839 --> 00:52:04,960 rate as an ALS entity. So again, we used our conservative BLS rate and we 597 00:52:03,119 --> 00:52:08,960 identified that we believe that the total revenue from bill from billing 598 00:52:07,119 --> 00:52:14,480 insurance would be approximately $540,000. 599 00:52:11,359 --> 00:52:21,119 Um so if our for broad numbers if our annual cost is expected to be 757,000 600 00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:26,559 and our revenue is 540,000 then the projected cost shared by the 601 00:52:23,839 --> 00:52:31,119 municipalities would then be 217 instead of the original 757. 602 00:52:29,359 --> 00:52:34,640 I know that's a lot of numbers I'm having to answer question, but that 603 00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:40,079 explains the process that we utilize to get to where we where we are with our 604 00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:43,920 budget and and it also um again highlights why we want to build this 605 00:52:41,839 --> 00:52:48,079 ourselves because all the contractors that we've looked at um you know there's 606 00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:51,040 kind of set costs year-over-year and they use a chase car model which doesn't 607 00:52:49,599 --> 00:52:55,200 have the same kind of reimbursement strength that the mobile ICU model which 608 00:52:53,520 --> 00:53:00,240 we're we're hoping to build locally do does. So we we really feel like this 609 00:52:56,640 --> 00:53:05,359 will be the most cost effective one. Makes sense. 610 00:53:02,240 --> 00:53:09,839 Um great. Okay. I'll move on to uh item number 611 00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:14,319 four. Each municipality 612 00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:20,880 hereby individually agrees to make their payment to Swathmore Burough on August 613 00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:27,760 1st, 2025 for the third calendar quarter of 2025 as shown in the AL services 614 00:53:24,319 --> 00:53:33,760 budget table and to make each subsequent quarterly payment as recalculated 615 00:53:30,240 --> 00:53:38,400 quarterly based on best available data from the fire company no later than the 616 00:53:36,079 --> 00:53:43,599 15th day of the second month of each calendar quarter. Any 617 00:53:41,359 --> 00:53:47,520 questions? Number five. Each municipality here individually agrees to 618 00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:52,400 annually budget the necessary funds starting in 2026 to allow for quarterly 619 00:53:50,319 --> 00:53:56,400 payments to Swathmore Burough based on estimated costs to be provided by the 620 00:53:54,640 --> 00:54:00,920 fire company. And I think that's the gist of it. 621 00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:11,760 This was all uh very um helpful. I want to this is a complex document. I know 622 00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:14,400 and this is um you know kind of a complex concept I've been talking about 623 00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:20,240 it with the board for the last few meetings um even you know before then 624 00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:23,280 kind of informally um I think it maybe be helpful if we just open up for 625 00:54:21,839 --> 00:54:28,079 questions that any of the board members have and I'd be happy to answer any 626 00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:32,000 questions as you know well as any of our kind of guests who have been working 627 00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:37,119 through the working group. I will just say Max has been I mean very 628 00:54:34,559 --> 00:54:42,079 communicative at least um you know with anyone that wanted to to questions 629 00:54:39,599 --> 00:54:47,119 answered and I feel like I have pestered you and we're um you know that that it's 630 00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:49,920 it's a lot I know and um I appreciate all the work that you've put into it. I 631 00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:53,599 appreciate the work that everyone has put into this. I it's actually amazing 632 00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:56,640 to me what's been accomplished in such a short period of time. I mean, this went 633 00:54:54,960 --> 00:55:00,480 from sort of an emergency situation, which it still is, but to like there 634 00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:03,200 there is a solution. And it's it's really great that the five neighboring 635 00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:07,040 municipalities have figured out how to work together so well and so quickly. 636 00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:10,240 And um I don't have any questions now because you've answered them over the 637 00:55:08,319 --> 00:55:14,000 last month or so. So, thank you. Yep. No, I I I agree. You know, hats off to 638 00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:16,960 you, Max, and I thank our neighbors for for coming out here. I think this is a 639 00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:20,960 real model of how we can work together, and hopefully it's a model with the fire 640 00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:24,079 um study that we're undertaking. So, it's really a great thing. And like Kate 641 00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:28,800 said, I mean, this came off this happened so fast in a good way with a 642 00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:32,400 lot of work being done. Um Max has been communicative, so I feel like I have a 643 00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:35,440 good grasp of what we're doing here tonight. 644 00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:40,079 Yeah, I just wanted to say thank you to to Max and of course um our our 645 00:55:38,079 --> 00:55:45,440 neighbors. This is such an important issue. It did happen very fast. Clearly 646 00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:49,839 passion around the project kind of accelerated it. So I really appreciate 647 00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:56,079 it. I did have one question though. Mhm. So there's a lot of um accounting for 648 00:55:53,280 --> 00:56:00,720 things that happen the quarterly um installment payments etc. And I 649 00:55:58,559 --> 00:56:05,760 understand the concept of it. Who is responsible for accounting for that and 650 00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:10,079 actually moving the money around? And if there was a question regarding some of 651 00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:14,160 the information coming in that there was a challenge who who is the ultimate 652 00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:19,119 mediator? Well, I guess maybe I'll answer this 653 00:56:16,240 --> 00:56:23,599 with Colin's help. How how does that um so my understanding based on my 654 00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:28,880 conversations with Carl and Bob and the working group uh are that we need to as 655 00:56:27,119 --> 00:56:33,119 a municipality enter into an agreement with the other municipalities. We can't 656 00:56:30,799 --> 00:56:37,760 enter into an agreement directly with Swathmore's uh fire protected service. 657 00:56:36,079 --> 00:56:42,160 So the agreements are amongst the municipalities and then Swathmore 658 00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:46,960 designates fire protective service uh as the the entity that it will will be 659 00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:50,240 carrying on. So, as far as the kind of moving the money around, it would my 660 00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:55,200 understanding it would have to go from Nether Providence to Swathmore, who 661 00:56:52,319 --> 00:57:03,920 would then disperse the monies to the fire protective agency. As far as who's 662 00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:07,200 doing the um accounting and uh like the revenues and and whatnot on your end, I 663 00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:10,960 think that's probably a better question for you, but I know you have a a board 664 00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:14,960 governance and we're talking about search administration. Sure. So, uh, so 665 00:57:12,720 --> 00:57:18,640 we're an independent 501c3. Um, obviously we work closely with the 666 00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:22,880 burrow. Um, so we have a board of directors, but we will be, uh, for this 667 00:57:21,119 --> 00:57:28,240 project. And one of the line items that we didn't really talk about is, um, 668 00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:32,880 having a ALS supervisor dedicated for this. And so, one of their focuses will 669 00:57:31,119 --> 00:57:36,319 be making sure that we have monthly reports that we can provide to all the 670 00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:41,119 municipalities that are involved and then making sure that we're updating the 671 00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:45,599 table on a quarterly basis. And so um it's not a person but it will be the 672 00:57:43,359 --> 00:57:48,720 supervisor in conjunction with myself and then it'll go through our board of 673 00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:53,119 directors and then go out to all of the municipalities leadership and we can 674 00:57:51,119 --> 00:57:56,559 designate whether that's someone from the working group or to the entire 675 00:57:54,799 --> 00:58:00,400 boards. That's really up to the municipalities and how they would like 676 00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:04,480 to receive that information. I I think that that all makes sense. And 677 00:58:02,799 --> 00:58:09,200 so we we had actually discussed as a board several years ago having our 678 00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:12,400 auditor also sort of audit the fire companies and we didn't move forward 679 00:58:10,559 --> 00:58:16,400 with that. But I wonder I mean it's not something sort of to decide tonight but 680 00:58:13,839 --> 00:58:19,599 I wonder if we eventually would want to just you know if if this is going to be 681 00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:25,920 sort of an ongoing thing if if we're moving towards the um what is it the 682 00:58:23,599 --> 00:58:28,960 regional regional model whatever we're calling that. Um, so this is sort of a 683 00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:32,000 temporary gap, but like what you know, we should think if this stays in place 684 00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:34,319 for longer we should think about because it didn't seem like it was very much and 685 00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:37,040 I feel like that would actually be a good thing for everyone to sort of show 686 00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:40,640 their municipality like this is how we're moving forward and these are the 687 00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:45,200 check. I can I can share and Chris might have something to add. Um, so we again 688 00:58:42,799 --> 00:58:49,520 as an independent agency we have a financial review every year and it's um 689 00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:54,880 I'm not a finance person so bear with me. It is not a full audit, but it is a 690 00:58:53,119 --> 00:58:58,640 f there's something right below a full audit and it's called like a financial 691 00:58:56,319 --> 00:59:01,359 review or Morin, do our firehouses do that? Maybe you don't know off the top 692 00:58:59,839 --> 00:59:06,400 of our head your head. I feel like they weren't even doing that. So that maybe 693 00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:09,760 that's I mean so I so I mean we we do that as a matter of course we've had 694 00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:14,720 discussions internally with our bureau about a full audit and the the limiting 695 00:59:12,559 --> 00:59:18,400 factor for for our board has been is an increased cost. Yeah. Um, so that 696 00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:22,640 increases the budget, but we're not opposed to it in any way, shape, or 697 00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:26,160 form. And again, my pledge to all of this and throughout the working group is 698 00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:29,280 transparency is the most important thing for all of us. I don't think there's I'm 699 00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:32,240 so I'm very happy that we have this place. It's going to be a place and that 700 00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:35,119 we're all going to move forward. Just something to throw out there because I 701 00:59:33,599 --> 00:59:37,839 think, you know, that if I'm thinking through what a resident might be 702 00:59:36,559 --> 00:59:41,040 concerned about, this is a really big expense and sort of how are we making 703 00:59:39,359 --> 00:59:45,119 sure that this all sort of sorted out and there's we can all be comfortable 704 00:59:43,119 --> 00:59:48,799 just continuing moving forward with it. Yeah. and and and we're working it out 705 00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:52,720 very quickly as you know and so it's everything's moving fast. Um but we have 706 00:59:51,119 --> 00:59:58,640 had conversations about hiring a controller, keeping the funds separate. 707 00:59:55,359 --> 01:00:02,240 Um so as we move forward all of those things will happen and I'm sure it will 708 01:00:00,559 --> 01:00:07,839 get even better as we move along but those discussions are taking place right 709 01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:11,240 now. Okay, perfect. Yeah. Anybody else? 710 01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:19,599 Yes. I spec if if you would like to come up, I'd love to hear your thoughts. I 711 01:00:17,599 --> 01:00:23,920 Okay, perfect. Simple is good. So, the the first payment would be due August 712 01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:27,119 1st and then there would be another quarterly payment due by the end of the 713 01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:34,720 year. So, there' be two in our case $75,000 payments due in 2025. So, the 714 01:00:30,799 --> 01:00:40,480 first payment would be 75,000 uh because that's accounting for a full quarter, 715 01:00:36,559 --> 01:00:43,359 right? Um, but you know it's five months and so there's going to be one full 716 01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:47,599 quarter and one that's twothirds of a quarter. So we can do math whatever 717 01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:50,240 twothirds of 75 less whatever the reimbursements we're able to collect in 718 01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:57,640 that first few months will be the second. Thank you. Yeah. Um I actually 719 01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:57,640 had some some questions for you Katie. 720 01:00:58,160 --> 01:01:07,200 Um I know we had been talking um about kind of what the financial flexibility 721 01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:11,680 that we had Nether was. Um, and I know we felt very confident that um, $100,000 722 01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:13,920 is doable. This is, you know, obviously a little bit higher than that, but I 723 01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:18,960 think you said that you were going to continue a review. So, if you could 724 01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:22,720 maybe comment on, you know, um, I did do another review of the budget where we 725 01:01:20,799 --> 01:01:25,839 are right now and the fund balance and I feel comfortable that this is 726 01:01:24,079 --> 01:01:29,040 manageable. I think I think the reality with our budget is that we have done a 727 01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:32,640 good job building our general fund over the last several years. Um, and you 728 01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:36,319 know, I think what was it eight years ago when Matt and I started on the 729 01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:40,079 board, that was not the case. So we have really um made some conservative 730 01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:44,240 decisions and I think something like this is sort of the exact um reason why 731 01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:48,079 we've done that. So this is an unbudgeted expense. It is very big but 732 01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:52,000 it is very necessary. So I think we will make it happen however we have to but I 733 01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:55,359 do think we have enough um flexibility in the general fund as we built it for 734 01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:58,240 almost a decade. No, you're totally right and this is kind of the emergency 735 01:01:56,799 --> 01:02:02,160 we were always concerned about eight years ago when we didn't have the fund 736 01:01:59,599 --> 01:02:05,040 balance that we do now. So absolutely why we got to do what we do. Thank you. 737 01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:08,079 So, I'll I just want to thank Matt and Kate for their kind of financial 738 01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:13,040 leadership putting us in the position where we could uh consider this. And 739 01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:18,799 yes, Bill, just a quick clarification in in a previous version, we were talking 740 01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:22,559 about only five months in 2025. Correct. But it works out better if you do it has 741 01:02:20,799 --> 01:02:25,599 two quarters because they be they're going to be spending money in July. They 742 01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:31,280 got to buy a lot of equipment. All right. So, that'll be part of the 743 01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:35,680 third quarter of 2025. That will be a real quarter. The payments made August 744 01:02:33,359 --> 01:02:40,720 30, August 1st for that quarter. The next quarter is paid next quarterly 745 01:02:37,839 --> 01:02:44,880 payment is paid November 15th. Okay. For the fourth quarter of 2025. Thank you 746 01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:48,960 for clarifying that. And so some of these um details and final 747 01:02:47,359 --> 01:02:54,400 clarifications are, you know, why I've been having a sidebar with our solicitor 748 01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:59,040 um about what exactly to approve. We have both a resolution in front of us 749 01:02:56,640 --> 01:03:03,920 and an agreement. Um, and so what I was talking about with our solicitor is 750 01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:08,400 passing a resolution that authorizes perhaps Kate, perhaps me, whatever 751 01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:13,119 people want to do, uh, authorizes, uh, them to execute an EMS cost sharing 752 01:03:11,359 --> 01:03:17,200 agreement, which would be substantially similar to this with a few 753 01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:22,559 non-substantial edits to make sure that, you know, all the kind of final lines 754 01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:25,359 are. So, for now with financial issues, we should be checking in with Conlin 755 01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:28,400 just like if Katie had that question came up that was like, what's the exact 756 01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:34,240 amount? It would be you for now that Okay. 757 01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:40,000 Okay. Um are there any other questions? Okay. Um then this is a long resolution, 758 01:03:38,319 --> 01:03:45,200 but what I'll do is I'll introduce the top of it and then I'll read the the 759 01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:49,119 substantial section at the end. Um so Nether Providence Township, Delaware 760 01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:52,720 County, Pennsylvania, resolution number 2025-08. 761 01:03:51,119 --> 01:03:55,520 Resolution of the township commissioners of the township of Nether Providence, 762 01:03:53,839 --> 01:03:59,280 Deler County, Pennsylvania, authorizing the appropriate township officials to 763 01:03:57,359 --> 01:04:02,799 take any and all action to approve an intergovernmental shared services 764 01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:07,200 agreement for emergency medical services. There's a number of whereases 765 01:04:05,359 --> 01:04:12,880 including a misspelled version of PROER which we will edit. Um and then at the 766 01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:16,000 end now therefore be it resolved by the township commissioners of the township 767 01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:22,160 of Nether Provident, Delaware County, Pennsylvania, that agreement is approved 768 01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:28,799 as follows. The township commissioners hereby authorize uh Kate McKenzie uh to 769 01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:33,119 execute an EMS cost sharing agreement um which will be substantially similar to 770 01:04:30,559 --> 01:04:38,319 the document um in front of everyone uh labeled exhibit A. The emergency medical 771 01:04:36,079 --> 01:04:44,319 cost sharing agreement um will be um incorporated herein um uh 772 01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:47,839 as a as a reference document. Um, township manager, township staff, and 773 01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:51,520 president of the board of commissioners are authorized to execute any and all 774 01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:57,200 documents and take actions necessary for the township um to enter uh the 775 01:04:54,480 --> 01:05:02,480 agreement. Do I have a second? Second. Any comments or questions? 776 01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:08,880 Hearing none. All those in favor, please note so by saying I. I. Any opposition? 777 01:05:06,799 --> 01:05:12,880 And the motion passes seven up. Thank you, Gordy. Thank you guys all for I 778 01:05:11,680 --> 01:05:18,160 mean the fact that you're here tonight really shows how this has gone. So thank 779 01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:20,480 you madam madam madam president if I could or Max if I could just jump in 780 01:05:19,359 --> 01:05:24,079 real quick. I just wanted to thank all of you as well. Really appreciate it. 781 01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:27,200 It's nice to have uh fans here tonight. So 782 01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:32,319 Robert's our most polite because not every since since we didn't have a lot 783 01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:36,000 of fans we appreciate anyway. 784 01:05:34,079 --> 01:05:39,359 Um, so that is the meat of my agenda, but it's not the entirety of my agenda. 785 01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:44,680 And you are welcome to stay or you are welcome to go. 786 01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:44,680 Thank you. 787 01:05:53,839 --> 01:05:58,680 It's been a pleasure to work with all of you. Really thank 788 01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:03,319 Hey, thanks again. 789 01:06:04,079 --> 01:06:10,880 Thank you for having um Max, thanks to you as well and Kate 790 01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:17,119 and Matt, all you guys thanks the fabulous Moren, Kate, everyone. I 791 01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:20,000 couldn't do anything uh without the um we're all better off the support of the 792 01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:24,720 rest of the board. So, thank you all for for your trust. Um all right, so the 793 01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:28,319 last item on my agenda is an aqua paving contribution. I love these. I love 794 01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:34,480 paving roads. Everyone knows that. Uh so this is Oaknull Drive. Uh so this is 795 01:06:32,079 --> 01:06:39,200 just south of Matt's neighborhood, south of uh the the train tracks and sorry 796 01:06:37,280 --> 01:06:43,599 just a little down the hill from where we're at now. Um so Aqua is offering 797 01:06:41,599 --> 01:06:47,039 $150,840 for the township to perform and complete 798 01:06:45,119 --> 01:06:50,960 at its sole responsibility. Uh the pavement restoration which will involve 799 01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:55,599 a trench uh based restoration as well as some milling and overlay work. Um in 800 01:06:53,839 --> 01:07:00,079 consideration uh for the receipt of the contribution um the township would 801 01:06:58,079 --> 01:07:03,599 further agree to be responsible for supplying all necessary materials 802 01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:08,240 performing the installation assuming full responsibility for the work um and 803 01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:13,920 would release Aqua from all liability and damage arising from this work. Um so 804 01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:18,079 uh for the commissioners um who who don't recall or for anyone uh who's kind 805 01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:22,640 of listening in from home or reviewing minutes you know 10 years hence um it's 806 01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:28,079 become the kind of recent practice of the township rather than have Aqua 807 01:07:25,039 --> 01:07:32,880 complete the resurfacing work um as they have historically done. uh it's been the 808 01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:35,680 practice to accept payment in lie of because when we've been able to put it 809 01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:39,440 out to bid, we've been able to get the same amount of work done with a little 810 01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:43,920 extra that we've been able to uh kind of redistribute to other road resurfacing 811 01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:48,559 projects. So, this is a continuation of that uh recent practice. And it's 812 01:07:46,640 --> 01:07:52,880 projected based on the numbers I have in front of me uh to cost the township 813 01:07:50,559 --> 01:07:57,599 $130,000 to complete the work. So, that would be uh you know $20,000 that we're 814 01:07:55,280 --> 01:08:03,280 then able to um supply to other road projects. Is that is that curb to curb? 815 01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:09,359 I'll let Charles review some details. Is that So Aqua's going to give us 150 and 816 01:08:05,839 --> 01:08:15,280 it cost 130 to repave curve to Yeah. Okay. All right. 817 01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:21,520 That's a pretty pretty good bid. Oh, that's an Sure. Sorry. Um, did they tear 818 01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:28,359 up the concrete gutters on that street or just the academy? I believe 819 01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:28,359 Okay. Okay. 820 01:08:28,400 --> 01:08:34,400 Um, so you know the question I pose uh to the board, does the township want to 821 01:08:32,960 --> 01:08:38,799 accept this offer? It would certainly be in line with fast practice. Um, and if 822 01:08:36,480 --> 01:08:44,560 so, we'll need to uh put a bid package together and advertise. Otherwise, Aqua 823 01:08:40,719 --> 01:08:48,560 will pave it in late July. I mean, yes, I assume such. Do we need to have a vote 824 01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:57,040 or is this the general kind of acclamation? Okay. Um then I move uh the 825 01:08:54,560 --> 01:09:03,199 Nether Providence uh accept payment from Aqua in lie of uh the resurfacing work 826 01:09:00,480 --> 01:09:06,679 for the Oakno Drive project um to the amount of $150,840. 827 01:09:07,279 --> 01:09:16,719 Uh do I have a second? Second. Um any comments or questions? All those in 828 01:09:12,799 --> 01:09:21,920 favor so by saying I. I. Any opposition? Seeing none, the motion passes 70. Uh so 829 01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:25,679 look forward to reviewing uh those bids at an upcoming meeting and I turn it 830 01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:29,199 back to you, President McKenzie. Thank you. And Commissioner Barnes has some 831 01:09:27,279 --> 01:09:33,279 time constraints and has asked to go next. So we'll turn it over to her for 832 01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:37,359 community health and environment report. Thank you. I apologize. I have to leave 833 01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:43,920 early, but I do have a couple things. Uh I have some EAC updates. They sent a 834 01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:49,440 balloon awareness blurp. So I will read that for you. Um, mass balloon releases 835 01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:53,440 may seem harmless, but they have serious consequences for animals in the 836 01:09:51,199 --> 01:09:57,040 environment. Once released, all balloons eventually fall back to the ground, 837 01:09:55,120 --> 01:10:01,440 waterways, or into trees where they become dangerous litter. Wildlife like 838 01:09:59,520 --> 01:10:06,159 turtles and birds often mistake balloon fragments for food or become entangled 839 01:10:03,520 --> 01:10:10,640 in attached strings and ribbons, leading to injury or death. Balloons are among 840 01:10:08,719 --> 01:10:16,000 the most lethal types of plastic pollution for wildlife. Farm animals are 841 01:10:13,120 --> 01:10:19,920 also at risk. Balloon debris that lands in fields and pastures can be 842 01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:24,320 accidentally ingested by grazing animals such as cows, sheep, and ghosts, 843 01:10:22,480 --> 01:10:29,920 potentially leading to the internal blockages, illness, or death. Balloon uh 844 01:10:28,159 --> 01:10:33,520 ribbons and strings can also pose entanglement hazards in yards or on 845 01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:41,040 farmland. Please think twice before releasing balloons into the environment. 846 01:10:37,520 --> 01:10:48,159 That's that. And also from the last uh EAC meeting, there was talk of interest 847 01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:52,880 to have a community garden. Um we're looking at places that it potentially 848 01:10:51,199 --> 01:10:57,360 could go. It needs to go somewhere where there where there's water access and all 849 01:10:54,880 --> 01:11:03,679 that. So it's it's something for the future to think about. And uh 850 01:11:01,360 --> 01:11:07,760 next up, the other group is the historical commission. Um we are looking 851 01:11:06,159 --> 01:11:13,040 for someone to join the commission and to chair it. Right now we have some 852 01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:19,120 people who are in it. Uh we tried to ramp it up uh earlier last year but 853 01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:23,760 unfortunately nobody wanted to chair and it's not really something that I can do 854 01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:28,480 myself. So uh if you're interested in history and want to work with the 855 01:11:26,960 --> 01:11:33,840 township, please, you know, let us know. We'd be 856 01:11:30,480 --> 01:11:38,000 happy to have you. Next up, we have the summer camp. All of 857 01:11:36,080 --> 01:11:42,640 our counselors and volunteers are ready to go and all staff positions have been 858 01:11:40,640 --> 01:11:46,960 filled. We are still accepting camper registrations. For more information or 859 01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:53,199 to register, please contact the township office. And my last item is about family 860 01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:58,239 funday. Uh we are accepting vendor applications. To join us for family 861 01:11:55,120 --> 01:12:01,360 funday on Saturday, October 11th. For more information, please visit our 862 01:11:59,840 --> 01:12:05,920 Facebook page. And if you have questions, you can contact Mona Price at 863 01:12:03,679 --> 01:12:11,199 mpriceprovidence.org or me at sfarnesprovidence.org. 864 01:12:09,440 --> 01:12:16,800 And that is the end of my report. Thank you. Thank you. And certainly excuse if 865 01:12:14,320 --> 01:12:19,520 you need to run. Um I am going to go next because I also have time to 866 01:12:18,159 --> 01:12:22,719 straight. My son is a hockey unit and it starts at 10 o'clock tonight which I 867 01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:30,560 find ridiculous. Um it's past my bedtime. So I am going 868 01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:35,280 to start with the Bills list. Um we have somewhat of an abbreviated list tonight 869 01:12:33,120 --> 01:12:41,120 which works out. Um we'll start with the AP bills list. There are sever several 870 01:12:39,040 --> 01:12:47,440 aqua charges. These are our hydrants. The charges for uh the month of May. Our 871 01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:50,400 recycling BNL recycling. Katie, how are we doing with our recycling contract? 872 01:12:48,719 --> 01:12:53,400 Have you compared that recently? Our charges. 873 01:12:54,480 --> 01:13:03,440 Oh, awesome. Yeah. So, I I went to an event um this weekend and um one of the 874 01:13:01,520 --> 01:13:06,159 members of the EAC had mentioned that we asked them to review because they should 875 01:13:04,719 --> 01:13:11,199 be looking at our actual recycling versus an average. Yeah. So, that's very 876 01:13:09,199 --> 01:13:14,560 exciting. I'm glad that that the EAC was able to work that out. Yeah, that was 877 01:13:13,199 --> 01:13:17,760 something we were discussing at the last meeting. It was very interesting. Yeah, 878 01:13:16,239 --> 01:13:22,560 it's it's great that they are finding all these things. Yeah. All right. Well, 879 01:13:19,920 --> 01:13:27,040 that's really great news. Um and so that will go back into the to the 880 01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:31,440 recycling fund and be taken to into consideration when we're setting rates 881 01:13:28,480 --> 01:13:36,880 for uh you know the coming years. Next charges is our medical and dental 882 01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:45,360 insurance um for the insurance provider divot. Um on page 883 01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:48,360 is that two? No, three top page three. um 884 01:13:49,040 --> 01:13:57,719 several property tax credits for our volunteer firefighters. Um on page 885 01:13:54,719 --> 01:13:57,719 three, 886 01:13:58,080 --> 01:14:05,679 um Lanzetta landscaping top of page four for the fence at the public works yard, 887 01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:09,760 which looks really great. At the public works is really looking wonderful. It's 888 01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:13,880 I'm really impressed. Um and 889 01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:22,000 On to page five. Abeneio. No, I'm probably not saying 890 01:14:19,440 --> 01:14:28,040 that right. Contractors. The Henry Lane drainage improvements. Charles, how are 891 01:14:23,679 --> 01:14:28,040 we doing with that project? Correct. 892 01:14:29,360 --> 01:14:33,640 I would say in the next 893 01:14:35,360 --> 01:14:38,360 Okay. 894 01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:49,199 Okay. All right. Well, that's great news. Um and then 895 01:14:45,760 --> 01:14:53,679 on some several more property tax credits for volunteer 896 01:14:50,719 --> 01:14:58,480 firefighters and um a charge for Whitmer assoc and associates for new handguns 897 01:14:56,080 --> 01:15:04,360 for the police department. Um on to the interim bills list. 898 01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:13,360 Um a charge on page one for pilla construction. That's 899 01:15:10,719 --> 01:15:21,960 public works. Was that the lift? What was that charge for? About $8,000 per 900 01:15:16,080 --> 01:15:21,960 pill. Do we know else? The roof. Okay. 901 01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:27,440 So, we're would this be a question for you guys or 902 01:15:26,159 --> 01:15:32,560 Charles? How are we doing with like the charges generally for public works 903 01:15:28,960 --> 01:15:36,880 garage? Are we pretty much finished with all the expenses there? 904 01:15:34,640 --> 01:15:42,640 I I believe we're just waiting for the um 905 01:15:40,239 --> 01:15:46,560 installation and the finalization of the um cameras. Okay. Um I still I think 906 01:15:45,440 --> 01:15:50,159 we're still waiting for some charges from that and then everything should be 907 01:15:49,040 --> 01:15:56,800 completed, but they're installed. We're just waiting for charges for them. Yes. 908 01:15:52,159 --> 01:16:02,880 Okay. All right. That's good. Um and then on page two, the traffic safety 909 01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:07,280 store. Um traffic supplies paid with the divot grant. 910 01:16:05,679 --> 01:16:11,920 Okay. Which ones were those? Were those the cross? 911 01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:15,480 Oh, okay. Gotcha. So, just general supplies that we needed. 912 01:16:15,760 --> 01:16:24,480 All right. And there wasn't anything out of the ordinary on the AP list, AP bills 913 01:16:22,080 --> 01:16:30,960 list, but we can look through that briefly. a couple municipal um like 914 01:16:27,280 --> 01:16:35,920 uniform charges um some minor items 915 01:16:33,920 --> 01:16:40,480 um for use at the public works or for the at the tonic building some 916 01:16:38,080 --> 01:16:47,520 landscaping supplies um an accreditation charge 917 01:16:43,440 --> 01:16:50,520 some very minor items on here this month um 918 01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:59,159 all right I will make a motion to approve Approve the AP bills list in the 919 01:16:55,840 --> 01:16:59,159 amount of $349,3669. 920 01:16:59,679 --> 01:17:04,920 The AP interim bills list in the amount of $25,83.34. 921 01:17:05,199 --> 01:17:11,840 And the AP card list in the amount of $35,897. 922 01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:16,960 Can I get a second? Second. Second. Any comments or questions? All in favor, 923 01:17:14,080 --> 01:17:22,719 vote by saying I. I. I. Any opposed? That motion carries 70. 924 01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:25,679 And it's okay. And Matt and I are going to sign this 925 01:17:23,840 --> 01:17:30,520 and then I am going to turn it over to you. 926 01:17:27,520 --> 01:17:30,520 Okay. 927 01:17:37,440 --> 01:17:40,440 Thanks. 928 01:17:40,640 --> 01:17:47,239 All right. So, I guess maybe you can finish the um find 929 01:18:10,480 --> 01:18:18,520 four out of seven. Come on, two. 930 01:18:15,520 --> 01:18:18,520 Enjoy 931 01:18:25,040 --> 01:18:31,880 your happy boys. 932 01:18:35,600 --> 01:18:43,600 All right, we keep rocking and rolling. All right. Uh, 933 01:18:41,920 --> 01:18:47,600 the next item on the agenda is a ratification of a contract with TAR 934 01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:50,560 recycling. It's come to our attention that the Pennsylvania Department of 935 01:18:48,960 --> 01:18:54,880 Environmental Protection requires a signed contract with PAR recycling or 936 01:18:53,040 --> 01:18:59,360 our e-recycling collection bin at the public works garage. Though PAR does not 937 01:18:57,679 --> 01:19:02,560 charge the township a fee to collect the contents of the bin, a contract is still 938 01:19:01,040 --> 01:19:07,280 required to ensure the township isn't saddled with recycling that we can't 939 01:19:04,880 --> 01:19:10,880 process if PAR decides not to continue pickup. The contract underwent legal 940 01:19:09,679 --> 01:19:15,360 review before being signed by the assistant manager. It needs to be 941 01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:19,520 ratified by our board of commissioners. Um, all right. So, we just need to vote 942 01:19:17,679 --> 01:19:25,600 on this and apparently there's an agreement that will be signed. Um, so I 943 01:19:22,719 --> 01:19:29,760 will move to ratify the contract with PAR recycling with respect to the 944 01:19:27,520 --> 01:19:35,440 e-recycling collection bin at the public works garage. 945 01:19:32,640 --> 01:19:38,640 I get a second. Seconded. Any comments or questions? 946 01:19:37,360 --> 01:19:43,760 Uh, hearing none. All those in favor, please vote by saying I. I. Any opposed? 947 01:19:41,920 --> 01:19:47,280 That carries five 948 01:19:45,520 --> 01:19:52,000 50 5-0. Uh, the next item on the agenda is the 949 01:19:49,360 --> 01:19:55,600 healing the plant tree grant. Keep Pennsylvania Beautiful is offering 950 01:19:53,840 --> 01:19:59,120 healing the planet grants funded by the giant company, which aims to invest in 951 01:19:57,600 --> 01:20:03,920 tree plantings across the company's operating areas in Pennsylvania. A total 952 01:20:01,440 --> 01:20:08,159 of $112,000 in funding will be awarded to taxexempt organizations for tree 953 01:20:05,920 --> 01:20:11,520 planting projects this year. Projects need to be shovel ready and include tree 954 01:20:09,920 --> 01:20:16,480 planting and direct costs relating to tree planting. Uh KPB is accepting 955 01:20:14,159 --> 01:20:21,600 applications for grants up to $4,000 through 4 p.m. July 1 of this year. No 956 01:20:19,520 --> 01:20:26,560 matches required. The planting and grant paperwork must be completed before 957 01:20:24,159 --> 01:20:30,320 December 10, 2025. Um, so the action for the board this 958 01:20:28,320 --> 01:20:35,920 evening is a vote to authorize approval to apply for the grant. Um, this seems 959 01:20:32,960 --> 01:20:42,560 like a no-brainer to me. So I will move to apply for the grant for tree planting 960 01:20:39,600 --> 01:20:48,080 funded by the giant company uh in the amount of $4,000. 961 01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:52,320 Make a second. Second. Sorry. I have a I guess a a question. Um, yes, let's get 962 01:20:50,719 --> 01:20:55,840 money for trees. I'm all for that. Uh, is there a particular park or corridor 963 01:20:54,159 --> 01:21:00,159 you guys had in mind? I assume if we get the grant then we could decide. The 964 01:20:57,920 --> 01:21:04,239 applicant was just um the EAC or I'm sorry the Shade Tree Commission is the 965 01:21:02,239 --> 01:21:09,600 one who asked us to apply for this grant and they are hoping to restore some of 966 01:21:06,480 --> 01:21:15,840 the trees that were um taken down in the storm over at Galie Park. Oh, okay. All 967 01:21:12,719 --> 01:21:20,400 right. Thank you. Um okay. Any other comments or questions? Hearing none. All 968 01:21:18,320 --> 01:21:27,679 those in favor, please vote by saying I. I. I. Any opposed? All right. That 969 01:21:23,679 --> 01:21:32,640 carries. 5 Z. Let's see. We need to now go back to the parks and open space 970 01:21:30,719 --> 01:21:38,560 committee report with Commissioner Henry and public finance. Thank you. You got 971 01:21:35,679 --> 01:21:42,320 it. Skipping around today. I'm gonna try to be quick, but I do want to say I have 972 01:21:40,159 --> 01:21:50,159 two things to report on. One's a parks update and one's a parks committee 973 01:21:44,400 --> 01:21:55,280 update. Um, we often hear um a mixture of of good feedback and negative 974 01:21:52,719 --> 01:22:00,560 feedback about the parks and I just wanted to take a moment to dwell on the 975 01:21:57,360 --> 01:22:05,920 positive um because there is a lot of work that goes into what people enjoy 976 01:22:03,679 --> 01:22:12,480 around this community and I think sometimes it it's people are not aware 977 01:22:09,440 --> 01:22:16,960 of it takes an army. So, big thanks to everybody here. Of course, township 978 01:22:14,960 --> 01:22:22,320 manager, the assistant township manager, Charles, um the public works department 979 01:22:19,760 --> 01:22:25,520 has been just killing themselves trying to do a lot of work around the 980 01:22:23,600 --> 01:22:29,440 community. I think sometimes that maybe we're not communicating out well and 981 01:22:28,159 --> 01:22:33,679 everything they're doing. So, I just wanted to take an opportunity to thank 982 01:22:31,360 --> 01:22:38,719 everyone and and kind of end this on a positive note. Um but just specifically 983 01:22:36,159 --> 01:22:42,800 around the parks updates for those who don't know um over the past two weeks 984 01:22:41,199 --> 01:22:47,280 there's been significant progress with the parks projects. The walking path and 985 01:22:44,719 --> 01:22:50,880 picnic grove at Martha Burton Park have been completed. Um there's still some 986 01:22:49,280 --> 01:22:55,199 cleanup to be done around that path but all the material had materials have been 987 01:22:52,639 --> 01:23:01,679 put in place. The four square area has been dug out and stoned in preparation 988 01:22:57,360 --> 01:23:06,719 for paving. um at Sappovitz started to work digging out the path and placing 989 01:23:03,920 --> 01:23:11,040 stone in the excavated area. Plan to continue working on the path at the park 990 01:23:08,560 --> 01:23:14,719 this week and into next week. Weather looks good. Uh with all the rain we've 991 01:23:13,360 --> 01:23:18,400 received in the last two weeks since we installed the burm at Gouley, we've been 992 01:23:16,480 --> 01:23:22,239 able to see that it is working to keep the water and screening off the turf 993 01:23:19,920 --> 01:23:25,679 field, which is great news. We plan to make further improvements in the water 994 01:23:23,840 --> 01:23:30,320 management issues at Gully when the crew is working there for the grant project. 995 01:23:27,760 --> 01:23:34,159 Um and lastly, there's been some um a lot of great activity through the parks 996 01:23:32,400 --> 01:23:38,480 committee and there's some love our parks events uh that are being planned. 997 01:23:36,800 --> 01:23:42,480 Uh the committee is planning to host an event at each of the township parks 998 01:23:40,560 --> 01:23:47,040 through the end of the year. Uh the first event will be a ribbon cutting 999 01:23:44,480 --> 01:23:53,040 ceremony at Furnace ceremony at Furnest Park on Saturday, June 21st. The second 1000 01:23:50,159 --> 01:23:57,840 is a guided bird walk at Houston Park on Saturday, June 28th um hosted by the 1001 01:23:55,760 --> 01:24:01,760 bird town committee and additional information becomes available about 1002 01:23:59,600 --> 01:24:05,360 upcoming parks events. We'll update the board of commissioners and share details 1003 01:24:03,440 --> 01:24:08,960 of the township website and Facebook page. And I would encourage the 1004 01:24:07,520 --> 01:24:13,679 commissioners to distribute that information to their words. So with 1005 01:24:10,800 --> 01:24:16,960 that, I conclude my report. Thank you. Um, and with that, I'll pass it along to 1006 01:24:15,840 --> 01:24:21,040 Commissioner Okconor for the infrastructure and public works 1007 01:24:18,320 --> 01:24:25,920 committee report. Thank you very much, Mr. Garson. And, uh, with that said, I 1008 01:24:24,000 --> 01:24:29,760 just have a brief update on the public works. Um, the tension vehicles and 1009 01:24:27,520 --> 01:24:32,880 equipment were have been maintained or continue to be maintained over the past 1010 01:24:31,199 --> 01:24:36,719 couple of weeks. In accordance with the maintenance schedule, in addition to 1011 01:24:34,480 --> 01:24:41,199 that, the new F550 has been put into service for the crew 1012 01:24:38,800 --> 01:24:46,000 for use. Over the past couple of weeks, crews have been out fixing storm inlets 1013 01:24:43,760 --> 01:24:50,800 on Governor's Drive, cleaning inlets, and cutting brush away from signs and 1014 01:24:48,560 --> 01:24:57,280 roadways around the township. Crews have also started repairing stop signs or 1015 01:24:53,920 --> 01:25:01,520 stop signs, stop sign, stop bars, excuse me, around the township. As part of our 1016 01:24:59,360 --> 01:25:05,920 summer painting, the public works department plans to continue doing the 1017 01:25:03,760 --> 01:25:09,920 work on the stop bars and crosswalks throughout the remainder of the summer. 1018 01:25:08,080 --> 01:25:13,840 There have also been crews working on sanitary sewer maintenance and 1019 01:25:12,080 --> 01:25:18,560 investigating a sewer issue that was found to exist on Hemlock Road. The 1020 01:25:16,159 --> 01:25:24,000 public work crews public works crews have also made multiple mulch deliveries 1021 01:25:21,120 --> 01:25:29,840 and also have bagged leaf pickups and have had bulk tra and additionally uh 1022 01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:34,480 worked on the bulk trash event last weekend. And uh to echo what Beth said 1023 01:25:32,560 --> 01:25:37,679 uh we all appreciate very much the work that they do. And I wanted to I was 1024 01:25:36,320 --> 01:25:41,600 actually going to say something. I wanted to thank just Moren and Katie and 1025 01:25:39,600 --> 01:25:44,800 all you guys. You I mean I just like I try not to bug you guys during the week, 1026 01:25:43,120 --> 01:25:48,480 but I can just throw an email out there and you know if I just wait like a day 1027 01:25:46,560 --> 01:25:51,679 or so like or maybe even a few hours, you never know. It's whatever. You know, 1028 01:25:49,840 --> 01:25:55,280 it could be sometimes it's so fast I don't even see it. Um because I get busy 1029 01:25:53,760 --> 01:25:58,800 and I don't even notice it. But anyway, it's really nice. I really appreciate it 1030 01:25:56,960 --> 01:26:02,400 a lot. Chief obviously does the same thing. Charles as well. I know you 1031 01:26:00,320 --> 01:26:05,600 chimed in on something this week. So, I really appreciate it because uh like I 1032 01:26:04,159 --> 01:26:09,120 tell people, if anyone can make me look good, they must be doing a fabulous job. 1033 01:26:07,360 --> 01:26:14,080 So, so thank you. I appreciate it. 1034 01:26:12,159 --> 01:26:19,360 Thank you. Uh now up is Commissioner Carbone for the building and zoning 1035 01:26:15,679 --> 01:26:24,000 committee report. You so the next zoning hearing board meeting will be this 1036 01:26:20,960 --> 01:26:30,639 upcoming Monday, June 15th. There are four applications on the agenda. The 1037 01:26:26,960 --> 01:26:34,719 first is at 0 South Providence Road. We are appealing the township denial of 1038 01:26:32,960 --> 01:26:39,199 their zoning permit application to construct a single family detached 1039 01:26:36,719 --> 01:26:45,280 dwelling to be operated as a personal care assisted living facility which is 1040 01:26:42,080 --> 01:26:50,480 comprising of 16 beds for elderly people with disabilities to allow the proposed 1041 01:26:47,840 --> 01:26:56,159 use under the American with Disabilities and the Fair Housing Act. 1042 01:26:53,199 --> 01:27:01,280 The second application is 600 South Providence Road, the Spring Haven Club, 1043 01:26:58,960 --> 01:27:08,320 requesting a variance to install an additional pole for the netting. 1044 01:27:04,080 --> 01:27:14,480 Third is 910 True Penny Lane, requesting variances to permit the construction of 1045 01:27:11,040 --> 01:27:20,000 multiple one-story and twotory additions and a one-story attached garage to the 1046 01:27:16,880 --> 01:27:26,400 property. And the final is five Morgan Lane requesting a variance to construct 1047 01:27:22,800 --> 01:27:30,159 a 305 305 square foot deck with a covered porch. And that concludes my 1048 01:27:28,639 --> 01:27:33,679 report. Thank you. Uh Morgan, just a procedural question for the next zoning 1049 01:27:31,840 --> 01:27:37,920 board meeting. I know that some of the um applicants at the next meeting on 1050 01:27:36,239 --> 01:27:41,920 Monday, June 16, were at the prior meeting and and they didn't get reached 1051 01:27:39,280 --> 01:27:45,360 just because um the one application took so long. Correct. To the extent that 1052 01:27:43,679 --> 01:27:48,239 that the continuation of that application is going to take an extended 1053 01:27:47,280 --> 01:27:52,159 period of time, do you think we could get the other people on the agenda first 1054 01:27:50,719 --> 01:27:56,960 just so just to make sure that everybody gets through? No. No. The um the zero 1055 01:27:55,040 --> 01:28:03,760 Providence Road, they heard all the testimony for the hearing and closed the 1056 01:27:59,760 --> 01:28:08,000 case. Okay. Uh the board members um just have to rule had they their Thank you. 1057 01:28:06,719 --> 01:28:14,239 Okay. They just had to do their final ruling and vote and that will be taken 1058 01:28:10,560 --> 01:28:17,760 first. um no testimony will be heard for that application and then we will 1059 01:28:16,480 --> 01:28:21,440 continue to move straight on to the rest. Yeah, I just wanted to make sure 1060 01:28:19,600 --> 01:28:24,560 um you know we get through everything. So that perfect. Thank you. We have to 1061 01:28:23,120 --> 01:28:29,120 get through everything with our restraints with the um MPC. Right. All 1062 01:28:27,520 --> 01:28:35,120 right. Um well with that I'll pass it to you for your report 1063 01:28:32,320 --> 01:28:39,679 for me. Yeah. All right. I just have um one event um 1064 01:28:37,360 --> 01:28:45,440 over at Delaware County Rose Tree Park. There is going to be an electronics 1065 01:28:42,239 --> 01:28:52,400 recycling collection event on Wednesday, June 18th from 9:00 a.m. to 1:00 p.m. Um 1066 01:28:49,199 --> 01:28:57,440 there's um registration is required. We're going to be posting the flyer um 1067 01:28:54,639 --> 01:29:02,320 on our website and Facebook page. So, we that'll have all the information for the 1068 01:28:59,199 --> 01:29:05,920 registration process and um cost for some items have a cost, some do not, but 1069 01:29:04,320 --> 01:29:09,440 all that will be detailed on the flyer that we will um it's in the 1070 01:29:07,520 --> 01:29:14,360 commissioner's packets, but we will also be posting it on our website and 1071 01:29:11,040 --> 01:29:14,360 Facebook page. 1072 01:29:14,639 --> 01:29:21,520 That it awesome. Um all right, so we will now adjourn this evening's meeting. 1073 01:29:19,600 --> 01:29:28,679 The next commissioner's meeting is our combined meeting on July 24th. See you 1074 01:29:24,000 --> 01:29:28,679 then. Good night. Anything 1075 01:29:30,320 --> 01:29:39,800 for tech? There is I don't I guess second I'll 1076 01:29:35,520 --> 01:29:39,800 turn off the record questions.