[1:25] I'll call to order.
[1:30] I'll call to order the board of
commissioners another Providence
[1:32] Township meeting for June 12th, 2025.
We'll start with roll call.
[1:38] Morning FA, Township Manager.
[1:45] Megan Burns, solicitor for Bob Scott
tonight.
[1:49] Max Cooper, Ward One Commissioner. Matt
G, two, Pete Mackenzie, fourth W. Henry,
[1:54] W three. Shaina Barnes, fifth W. And
good evening, Robert Okconor here from W
[1:57] 6. Candace Carbone, W 7. Please stand
for the pledge of allegiance
[2:06] to the flag of the United States of
America to the stands
[2:14] indivisible.
[2:18] Our executive session will be held after
the meeting tonight. Um, okay. This is
[2:24] officially our public hearing for the
stop sign on Laurel Lane at Fairfield.
[2:28] That I know that's further down in the
agenda. Do we need to
[2:33] I would hold the hearing right now and
then further down the agenda you can
[2:36] make a vote um when it comes up. I think
it's like 3A. Okay. So, is anyone here
[2:42] um to discuss the stop sign at Laurel
and Fairfield?
[2:47] Since they are not, then we can we vote
on it later or should we vote on it now?
[2:51] You can vote on it now, too, if you want
to take it out of order. Okay. Agenda is
[2:56] that it's maybe yours. Yeah, we'll move
back. Yeah.
[3:02] All right. Um,
[3:06] I will move to approve ordinance number
863 of the township of Nether
[3:10] Providence, which provides that um there
will be a stop intersection established
[3:18] on Laurel Lane at the intersection with
Fairfield Drive in both directions of
[3:23] travel. May I get a second? Second. Any
comments or questions? I will just note
[3:28] that the the neighborhood was very much
in favor of this and has been to several
[3:31] meetings. So, um I think that we're all
comfortable that this is um something
[3:35] the community wants. Y
um all in favor, please vote by saying
[3:40] I. I. Any opposed? That carries. Got a
full board. 70.
[3:46] All right. Thank you. Um next is public
comment. Um I believe there are maybe
[3:50] several items that people are here for
se public comment. And if um if you are
[3:55] going to speak, please state your name
and address for the record. Please try
[3:58] to keep your comments to about three
minutes because we do try to keep the
[4:01] board meeting going and if there's no
need to sort of repeat if someone's
[4:05] already made the point you are planning
to make. Um so come on up. Who would
[4:09] ever like to be first?
Okay, everyone's just observing. Nope.
[4:14] Nette's coming.
[4:24] My name's Nette Witset and uh I'm here
to
[4:31] find uh some answers to the Martha
Burton Park
[4:40] project as well as Sappovitz Park.
I sent an email to Moren about two weeks
[4:51] ago and a couple days ago she decided to
answer the email.
[4:59] So, I sent her an email today and um
one of the things that she mentioned in
[5:07] the email was that Sarah Pec's donation
was used between the two parks
[5:17] when that money was only specified
for Martha Burton's community park. It
[5:25] came out of media walks
um contribution that she was making to
[5:33] firsttime own home buyers and I asked
her since we didn't get any could we use
[5:40] it for the park. So the money was
requested on my behalf
[5:49] and uh
because I had asked was there money left
[5:55] to buy more plants for the garden. Um,
so I I'd like to find the original grant
[6:04] and the engineering sketches for both
parks.
[6:10] And
I'm questioning how you're saying the
[6:15] funds are gone when you're using
material left over from other park
[6:21] projects to refurbish Martin Birther's
community park. For example, the fence
[6:29] and the gravel came from other park
projects within the community. So, no
[6:37] money was spent.
[6:41] Uh,
and the walking path that goes around
[6:46] the perimeter of the park, according to
the sketch that I have, that walking
[6:52] path was only to go from the entrance to
in front of the gardens to the picnic
[6:59] grove, which Dave had said before he
left that they weren't going to be able
[7:06] to do the picnic grove because it fell
out of the boundary. countries of of the
[7:12] poor.
Um so uh
[7:17] that that money should still be in the
pot because it's not being used for the
[7:24] picnic roof which would be tree removals
and and and grading and buying picnic
[7:33] tables.
Uh the lighting fixtures need to be
[7:38] relocated
due to the covering of the trees.
[7:43] One is not even visible and the other
one doesn't light up the park
[7:52] and uh
the fence has one panel.
[7:59] Now, public works said that that's all
they were told to put up was one panel.
[8:05] But if you look at the sketch, the fence
goes along the path of the outside of
[8:14] the garden, which would cover the rain
garden through the native plant garden.
[8:22] Yeah. I Let me Can I just make a couple
comments before um maybe I'd like you
[8:26] not to interrupt me.
You can wait until I'm done. Okay.
[8:31] Please keep it to three minutes and then
we we can have a productive discussion.
[8:35] Um,
you you relocated a tree and it died
[8:42] and aren't you supposed to plant two new
trees when a tree is removed per the
[8:50] tree committee? Isn't that part of the
township's
[8:56] uh policy?
which no trees have been planted or does
[9:03] it seem by marine that there's any money
left to go into Martha Burton's
[9:08] Community Park?
Um the trees that are there need
[9:14] protection from the deer that are
rubbing on the trees which will cause
[9:21] them to die or they could get funguses.
Um the
[9:30] swing, the merry ground and the seessaw
were to be repainted
[9:37] and the tires under the seessaw
need to be raised up or removed. It's my
[9:45] understanding that they're not allowed
anymore in playgrounds.
[9:51] So some other padding would have to be
made or more wood chips put down. The
[9:58] totem poles that were placed
where the fences they were made by
[10:06] Smarty um Ellen Mgrim's group on Monday
and they were donated to the park.
[10:14] It's my understanding
that I was told that they were placed
[10:20] where Ellen said to put them, but Ellen
only told me that they were for a park
[10:27] and it was up to us to decide where they
were going to be placed and certainly
[10:34] not along where the fence should go.
They should be in the garden and
[10:40] dispersed throughout the park.
Um
[10:46] the the new platform uh has a metal
black picnic table which you know
[10:54] attracts heat. So it is unbearable for
the children to sit on during the day.
[11:02] An umbrella needs to be purchased for it
to be usable.
[11:08] And um
[11:12] the the garden needs to have a retaining
wall put in because right now it's just
[11:22] the end of the garden and then the
walkway which whenever it rains it the
[11:29] soil is eroding down into the into the
gravel. So without a retaining wall put
[11:37] there, that'll just continue to happen,
which will cause the flooding to still
[11:44] happen where the new equipment is
placed. As for Sappovitz Park,
[11:51] there was to be a walking path from the
upper courts to the lower courts to make
[11:57] the entrance ADL compliant and to stop
the soil erosion from the top of the
[12:04] hill.
That causes a runoff and it pools at the
[12:09] bottom.
Right now, there's a large tree root
[12:15] from the storm that is still there and a
gaping hole. And that storm was over two
[12:23] months ago and it hasn't been removed.
[12:29] Um, so it it's it's unsafe and it's not
uh it's not protected by yellow taping
[12:38] to keep kids from running down the hill
and falling into the hole. And it's not
[12:45] it's no protection there. It's just a
gaping hole from a 100year-old tree that
[12:52] fell down during the storm.
And there was no mention of a softball
[13:00] field.
[13:04] And there was to be an ADL swing put up.
And there was also no mention of
[13:12] enlarging the half court, just
repainting and repairing the basketball
[13:18] hoops. And there was to be picnic tables
added as well as grills. a water
[13:25] management system to stop the water
flowing from the underground pipe into
[13:31] the stream. And there was to be stream
restoration to reopen the stream so that
[13:38] the water can flow down away from the
lower field entrance of the park. Any
[13:44] changes to the plan should have been
approved by the state and James and I
[13:50] should have been notified to get our
feedback in the community on the
[13:56] proposed changes to the parks.
When were we taken out of the loop?
[14:04] So, the final plans um are available and
we will certainly share them with you. I
[14:08] mean that these are both grant-f funed
projects that had to be approved by the
[14:12] state and as they move through the
process there are some changes that are
[14:16] made based on the discussions and the
you know the the states and county or
[14:21] whoever is authorizing the grant. So I
think the best next step is to get you
[14:25] those documents and you can look at them
because you know similar to any project
[14:30] there are many sketches along the way
and many ideas. Um I think your comments
[14:34] related to two different parks. Um and
so we will certainly get you the plans
[14:39] for marked the Burton and Sepitz and we
can go from there you know and and we
[14:43] can certainly get you all the grant
documentation which shows the cash uh
[14:47] match that the township needed to pay
for No. If you would like I also
[14:51] wouldn't like you need to be at the
microphone if you'd like to speak.
[14:55] Um, and so I I think you can have
another maybe another minute, but I
[14:59] think what would be most productive is
to share those documents and go from
[15:02] there because, you know, we can't sort
of litigate it based on some ideas or or
[15:06] sketches or things of the past. So, um,
let's do that. You know, like you said,
[15:11] you just probably sent Moren an email
today, so there's really been no time to
[15:15] react to that. So, we would also like to
have a copy of the working budget for
[15:22] this year. I believe that's on the
website. Is it? Yeah. So you're you're
[15:26] everyone has access to that. Please do
take a look at it. We would we welcome
[15:31] you to. We want the copy of the budget
that you're using which is on the
[15:36] website.
Yeah. I mean that's that's a public
[15:39] document and all the all the meetings
where we discussed it's all public.
[15:42] There's no there's nothing to hide
there. It's we have the same document
[15:46] you do. That's how it works. So the
grants are over three years old. They
[15:52] were awarded three years ago. That's
probably the Stapovich grant was I
[15:58] believe 400
and some change and Martha Burton was
[16:04] two. They're very expensive and they
take a very long time. You are
[16:07] definitely right about that. And
the changes that are being done to both
[16:15] parks are not in accordance to the
sketches that were submitted. Well, they
[16:20] are in accordance with the plan that was
approved by the state and the the
[16:24] whoever's overseeing the grant. And so
that's really what we legally are bound
[16:28] by. Um, and so I've been to both parks.
I think they're looking great. We've
[16:31] actually got a ton of positive comments
about both. I'm very sorry if you're
[16:34] unhappy about them. There are certain
things that if they're brought in a
[16:38] productive way, like certain areas
needed shading. The Boy Scouts,
[16:42] especially the Eagle Scouts, are always
looking for projects. That sounds like a
[16:45] great Eagle Scout project. So, we would
like to collaborate in a productive way
[16:48] on certain things like that. But I think
we all need to start from scratch, which
[16:51] is getting the the grant documents that
were approved by the state. And so I
[16:56] think we're gonna probably start there
and then um we can continue this
[17:00] conversation. So is anyone else here for
public? When will that happen? When are
[17:06] you proposing a meeting?
I think Moren can send you the documents
[17:11] and then we can go from there. Yeah,
I think we're requesting a meeting
[17:17] between our ward leader, the township
manager, and Marine, please. I think I
[17:23] have a problem with a sitting school
board member coming here and attacking
[17:26] us and accusing us of misappropriating
money. I got a huge problem with it. I'd
[17:30] like to take you misappropriating money.
Take a tour of the school district
[17:34] facilities, which are in utter
disrepair. The school district has a
[17:37] hundred million dollar budget. We put
hundreds of thousands of dollars into
[17:40] this park. The community has been
involved. Our public works has been
[17:44] working hard. It's not done yet. It's
ongo. We will get you the documents.
[17:48] What? What? It's the hostility. Please,
your your public comment is is over at
[17:52] this time. Whoever would like to come up
next, please state your name and address
[17:56] for the record.
And it's not first time. Your com your
[18:01] public comment is no is over. Whoever
else would like to come up, please state
[18:05] your name and address for the record.
All right.
[18:15] Hey everybody, James Mason.
Not supposed to say my address, right?
[18:19] Just my address is helpful. Yes, I'm
sorry. Yes, address is helpful. Oh, my
[18:25] address too. Yeah, and cell phone. Did
you say is helpful is helpful? Address
[18:32] cell phone. Just for record, we we like
to make we like to make sure public
[18:37] comment is generally contained to
residents. 613 West. Thank you.
[18:42] Um
I don't really have a lot to say, but
[18:47] thank you for you know handling um the
last discussion. I think the budget
[18:55] would
us going over the budget I think would
[18:59] help people at least start to feel
better that they understand what you
[19:04] know what money's allocated some places.
I don't think that's the answer to
[19:08] anything. um in from what I heard I I
get the impression that um you know
[19:15] we're we're talking about things after
they've already finished but being there
[19:20] while it's going on would have been a
lot better and I don't know I don't know
[19:24] the the committees too well so if
involvement on let's say parks committee
[19:30] or a this committee or whatever by c
citizens in that area if that
[19:34] involvement would help them or us
understand what's going on at the time
[19:39] and be more involved in that. Would that
be a step in the right direction? So, I
[19:46] I think we like to get community input
on certain things and on the parks is
[19:51] certainly one of them and being on the
parks commission, you know, you can
[19:53] provide more input, but at the end of
the day, decisions need to be made based
[19:57] on the funding available and the the
objectives of the grant and sometimes
[20:01] things change and it's not necessarily,
you know, there's there's no intention
[20:05] to cut community out I mean, things need
to be streamlined and move along. And
[20:09] so, I don't I don't know specifically,
you know, there there were a long list
[20:13] of things that seems like some things
were maybe placed in a place that we're
[20:17] not happy with, but generally the ideas
from start to finish with both of these
[20:21] projects were were pretty similar, you
know, and so I I think when we're sort
[20:26] of bickering over the details, I'm not
sure if I could tell you where there's a
[20:29] place for you to insert yourself that
would have changed that result. you
[20:32] know, a lot of it's engineering based or
um just working with the engineers on
[20:36] the other side at the state. I think um
we have a new public works director who
[20:41] is um I think easy to communicate with.
So if there are certain things um that
[20:47] the community would like to discuss, we
could get him involved. I will say that,
[20:52] you know, yelling and screaming at our
public works crew while they're working
[20:55] at the parks is completely inappropriate
and it's something that is going to be
[20:58] addressed going forward. um there's zero
tolerance for that. And so the and the
[21:03] crew they they make no decisions. They
are told what to do and so they they
[21:08] will have no real input other than I was
told to put this here. And so that's not
[21:12] the time or place to be discussing
anything that you have concerns or
[21:16] questions about. Um if you have things
to discuss in a productive manner, I
[21:21] think the public works director would be
happy to talk those things through.
[21:24] Yeah. And I agree with you.
I'm not trying to say that um
[21:28] involvement in the committees would
change things, but if it improves
[21:33] communication, I think so. Might avoid
this. Yes, for sure. I think that's
[21:36] right. Yeah. Um that's all. Oh,
actually, no, I have one other comment.
[21:40] One person did notice this, and again,
this is talking about something after
[21:43] the fact, and I don't think there's
anything we can do about it now, but the
[21:47] uh the infield was was redesign done at
Sepitch and looks really nice, and I
[21:51] like the drainage. Not until after I was
done did I notice that. And maybe it's
[21:56] the way baseball script is supposed to
be because I don't know anything about
[21:58] baseball. The infield is it's got to be
at least this much higher than you know
[22:03] it's like a real slope. Well, was that a
drainage thing, Charles? You could
[22:07] probably
advantage
[22:12] back,
[22:26] you know, phase two, phase three,
whatever would be the back stops,
[22:31] dugouts, and
so I think we've applied for separate
[22:35] grants to redo through the softball
field sort of in totality. I think our
[22:39] grant that we had outstanding was
denied. Um it is still one of the
[22:42] projects that we plan to continue to try
to pursue. So I think that this like
[22:46] Charles is saying is temporary and
probably related to the drainage and
[22:49] again that's feedback right knowing that
feedback you know we would I would have
[22:54] given that answer before. Yeah. Anyway,
thank you James.
[23:00] Okay. Anyone else for public comment?
[23:09] Good evening. My name is Joseph Harour,
428 Washington Avenue. And um I want to
[23:17] preference my comments uh really with a
question because what I came up here to
[23:23] discuss
um was the status of Sappit Park
[23:27] specifically as it pertained to the
softball field and also a memorial that
[23:35] had been planned and discussed several
times over the last decade
[23:41] in in regards to that. It's really two
separate things. Um,
[23:46] one I believe is definitely
[24:01] and also Mr. Grady where we actually
plotted out what the infield would look
[24:06] like and this was after a request to us
which we complied with to go down and
[24:11] take those proper measurements.
So the reason why I preface it with a
[24:16] question is because I just may be ill
informed on what the status of it is
[24:20] because there has been seems to me and
I'm only speaking for myself as a
[24:26] disconnect between what's going on in
the park and the things that I know I've
[24:30] discussed with various people on the
board. Our faces have changed over the
[24:35] last decade, but for instance, the one
memorial that we had actually planned
[24:42] for the softball team that played down
there, uh the original plans didn't even
[24:47] involve us coming to the township for
any kind of donation. We actually had
[24:52] plans set to where we were going to
raise our own. And the problem was and
[24:57] the conflict was we just wanted to know
where we could place it because we
[25:02] didn't want to get it set into place
with the pending changes that were
[25:06] eventually going to have to settle this
party. Now,
[25:11] in the midst of all that, we kept
getting put off and saying, "Well, wait
[25:15] until this comes in or wait until that
money is appropriated." and which we
[25:21] were fine with that. But see, now we're
10 years in and it seems like there are
[25:27] things happening in Sabbath Park, but
they're moving on without any
[25:32] consideration to what was already
promised to us because we didn't
[25:36] specifically come down there to ask for
anything new other than that memorial.
[25:42] The backs stop and the benches were
things that were already there and were
[25:46] removed but not replaced. So that's all
we were asking for. reason why I had a
[25:52] conflict with it or at least a question
about it is because uh
[25:58] almost
last April I was here the same exact
[26:03] discussion, the same exact presentation
and right prior before I spoke there was
[26:09] a group of Boy Scouts that came up with
their proposal for Leaper Park and
[26:16] they were giving the same information
that I was giving but then I looked at
[26:21] subsequent plans that had actually been
put forward and actually completed and
[26:26] so quite naturally I'm like well what
happened to us because that was
[26:30] something that was literally brought up
last year. Are you talking about the boy
[26:34] the Eagle Scout project at Leaper? So
they they pay for that. They do that
[26:38] themselves. I mean we might have given a
small donation but the softball field I
[26:41] remember you speaking um we applied for
a grant right after that. I mean it was
[26:44] it's a great idea and it's great history
and we pretty quickly thereafter applied
[26:48] for a grant which was recently denied. I
mean that was right. Well, I'm not that.
[26:52] I'm just saying that none of that was
unbeknounced to us. So, all we can see
[26:56] is certain things happening in the field
and a lot of people don't know what's
[27:01] going on. Did the project get cancelled?
um specifically like before I leave here
[27:05] tonight, I I I want a specific name and
contact person so that I can work in
[27:10] conjunction with whatever you're doing
and assist where I can, but and
[27:16] specifically though to make sure that
the things that were already promised to
[27:19] us don't get left by the wayside because
I've been at pretty much every one of
[27:23] these community functions to lend my
hand and get dirty with everyone else.
[27:28] And there was a couple times where
literally at this park they were playing
[27:31] trees. So I'm like, "No, pitchers
mouth." No, second base. So it seemed
[27:36] like our consideration completely
brushed aside.
[27:41] So I just want to make sure that one, we
understand what's going on down there
[27:46] and that's fine. Um I have no dispute
with what you've already said, but we
[27:51] did have plans, you know, in place. At
least that was my understanding and I
[27:56] just want to make sure that we're not
getting left behind with everything else
[27:59] that's going on. No, I think there's
there's two sort of there was the grant
[28:03] that that was approved and that grant is
very old. I mean that that's maybe more
[28:07] than three years old, maybe like six or
seven years old. The initial SAP of its
[28:11] grant um and that work is just being
completed. It was delayed many times for
[28:15] several reasons. Um and so that is the
plans that we were going to get for
[28:20] Nanette and we can hap we can get those
for you too. So you can see what the
[28:24] state approved um as far as that grant.
I'm sorry. Ste's
[28:30] wage grant. Was that the one we used
there? So, it's it's the DCNR grant. So,
[28:36] um we can get you, you know, a copy of
those documents. Um and then like I
[28:41] said, secondarily after you spoke last
year, um I can't speak to what happened
[28:46] before that. I I I don't recall
discussions about the softball field
[28:49] since I was on the board before that,
but when you brought it to us last time,
[28:52] it was a great idea and we initiated a
new grant round that um and so I think
[28:57] to do all of the changes that you
discussed with it sounds like maybe Dave
[29:00] and Charles we would need grant funding
for uh if you guys wanted to raise funds
[29:05] for certain things. I mean we we could
work out it sounds like Charles has
[29:09] already somewhat laid out what the field
would look like and so I think
[29:14] that was what you're referring to is the
back stop and the bench is being
[29:18] replaced. Yeah what I understand
but the bottleneck when it just came to
[29:23] to the memorial because we weren't
asking for any funds. We just wanted to
[29:27] know where we could put it. Well it
sounds like there's been a design now
[29:31] the other things that are being Charles
is that something we can do now based on
[29:35] the Okay.
Yeah.
[29:40] Yeah.
[29:45] That was our concern. Fair enough.
That's I mean, but I think what I need
[29:50] is someone that I can Yeah, you should
you should contact Moren, the township
[29:53] manager. Sorry. Moren, the township
manager. Sorry. Her information's on the
[29:59] on the website. It seems like what it
just reading between the lines here, it
[30:03] seems like what maybe happened before
was that there was concern about placing
[30:06] the memorial before we had, you know,
really good plans about the so for the
[30:10] softball field. It Charles has now done
that. You know, he's he's has enough
[30:15] information he's saying to know where
things will go when the grant eventually
[30:19] hopefully gets funded. So, she and Moren
and Charles can work with you and get
[30:23] the memorial placed. So, in the
meantime, October, it also seems like
[30:27] there's just some confusion due to the
length that the grants have been
[30:31] outstanding of um what's been done and
what still remains to be completed. So,
[30:34] I think maybe one of the things our
engineer and our managers can do is um
[30:38] for each grant, put a list together of
um what's been done thus far under the
[30:43] grant, what remains to be done, and then
we can share that community and then and
[30:48] then if there's any questions or
discrepancies, we can go through that
[30:52] together. And then like the idea for the
memorial, which is a great one, you
[30:55] know, maybe that's something we can get
moving on now, too. But I just think we
[30:59] just got to get the information out
there. So, I think if we put a list
[31:01] together, that would be helpful. Okay.
One quick question. So, based on my
[31:06] address, I'm in the third board,
correct? So, so that that makes you the
[31:11] third board. So, the board I'm I'm the
third board commissioner. Okay. Beth
[31:17] Henry, I'm sorry. Beth Henry. Okay. So,
you're welcome to talk to Beth, but sort
[31:21] of the day-to-day like going out and
meeting and planning and discussing
[31:24] would really be our engineer and the
township manager. Yeah.
[31:28] Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Anyone else
for public comment?
[31:33] All right.
Um, we have an opening on our historical
[31:37] commission. If you are interested and
excited by historical things, please
[31:42] reach out. Um, we do not have any
minutes to approve tonight. Is there
[31:46] anything on the solicitor's report not
otherwise on the agenda? No, there is
[31:49] not anything on the engineers report not
otherwise on the agenda.
[31:53] That is that a yes.
[31:59] And on the West Road Valley
West Valley road safety they did get
[32:05] back I mean for some dates to meet the
end of August
[32:10] June 24th or 25th. So I'll pass that
around this let them know. And then the
[32:16] other one is u Manchester Crosswalk
for a while. Um
[32:24] Pendot permanent expect by the end of
this week tomorrow. Thank you.
[32:29] for application protocol strap has
so when you when you talk to pendot will
[32:34] they be able to talk about um the issue
at null and whatever that is um turner
[32:40] or is that is that a different group
doesn't know about that yet
[32:48] we've got a sinkhole
[32:53] all right yeah I mean that's we've got
to get that taken care of um okay thank
[32:59] Um on to government relations committee
report with commissioner Cooper.
[33:03] Thank you very much McKenzie. Um there's
a lot of meat uh to discuss in my
[33:07] section today. We have uh several guests
who have come to provide some comment um
[33:12] for that as well. Um so what I'll do is
um we'll just kind of bullet out what
[33:18] I'm I'm going to be discussing. Um we
have a resolution that I'm going to
[33:23] introduce uh and that I will ask the
board to pass. The resolution will be to
[33:27] authorize uh either Kate or myself uh to
sign uh an agreement which the details
[33:34] of which are still being kind of
finalized. Um I'm also going to provide
[33:38] kind of a brief overview of how we got
here with EMS and then I'll ask some of
[33:43] our municipal neighbors uh from
Swathmore, Rose Valley uh and Rutledge
[33:47] to come provide comment. They uh wanted
to introduce themselves uh kind of in
[33:51] the spirit of collaboration as well. So,
um, as a reminder for, um, the rest of
[33:58] our board, uh, when Croer closed, in
addition to losing the acute care
[34:01] hospital, we lost 60% of our EMS
services locally. That meant that we no
[34:06] longer had ALS, uh, coverage. Um, as a
90-day stop gap measure, the county
[34:11] placed a chase comp uh, in Swathmore,
which has been providing ALS to us. Uh
[34:16] over the last few months, we've been
having weekly uh EMS working group
[34:21] meetings with many of the people uh who
are here um in which we've uh been going
[34:27] back and forth and finalizing uh details
of a plan. That plan um is you know
[34:33] substantially um going to be what you
see here in the what's the document
[34:38] labeled cost sharing agreement. Um, and
you know, in summary, I think this plan
[34:45] really, you know, I'm asking you to
support it because I think it does two
[34:48] three things really well. I think it
optimizes our cash flow. Uh, the plan uh
[34:53] that's here uh uses a model of ALS that
will uh provide we believe the best
[34:59] mechanism for ongoing reimbursements to
keep our costs low um into the future. I
[35:05] think it keeps the kind of power uh
local. This is u an agreement amongst
[35:09] our near municipal neighbors, not an
agreement with an outside contractor
[35:13] who, you know, could be difficult to
communicate with. Um, and lastly, I know
[35:17] we've been as a board and amongst
several of our neighbors talking about
[35:21] wanting to make progress towards more
regional emergency services, fire, EMS,
[35:26] uh, whatnot. And I think, uh, you know,
passing this resolution to adopt this
[35:29] agreement, uh, takes us a step, uh,
towards that. Um, so that is my, uh,
[35:35] request. Um, there's several uh guests
here. Uh, if you would like to come up
[35:39] and introduce yourself and uh provide
what comment you would like, I I welcome
[35:43] you all to do that now.
[36:02] Good evening. Um, I'm Jill Gesi from
Swathmore Burough. I'm Swathmore Burough
[36:06] President. I don't have any prepared
remarks. I'm just here in support of the
[36:10] resolution which we passed Monday the
same week. Um, I would say beyond us
[36:16] being in a critical position where we
have to provide this and want to provide
[36:19] this for our residents, this is the
trajectory we're on anyway, we're we've
[36:24] all been working together for a long
long time on fire consolidation. So,
[36:30] this is handin glove I believe with
that. and I trust our uh first
[36:35] responders, firefighters um and our EMS
personnel and I think we can get the job
[36:40] done and keep it local and it kind it's
proof of concept from my perspective of
[36:45] what we've been trying to do anyway. So
I welcome your ascent in this
[36:50] resolution.
Thank you.
[36:55] Hi Kristen Seymour with Swathmore Bureau
Council. First, um I would like to thank
[36:59] the board for sharing Max Cooper with
us. He has been phenomenal. Uh he has
[37:05] led this charge both for this um I guess
I don't really want to call it a
[37:10] band-aid band-aid solution, but for this
short-term solution, which could
[37:13] eventually lead us to full uh to have an
authority, right, to to where each
[37:18] municipality can appoint someone to a
board. That would be the end goal in my
[37:23] mind and I think in in many many's mind.
Um, so thank you to Max and to Conland
[37:28] and I hope that we can count on your
support. Rose Valley passed this last
[37:32] night unanimously. Sorry to steal your
thunder, mayor, if you were going to say
[37:36] that, but we were so excited with Rose
Valley passing this last night. And we
[37:39] hope that you guys can be the third.
Thank you.
[37:46] Hi, I'm Sue Hunt, uh, Vice President
Brett,
[37:49] and again, we're here to support your
board in making your decision on this
[37:54] resolution. Rage will have their vote on
Monday, which we anticipate will be an
[38:01] affirmative vote. We appreciate Max, all
the work he has done, and uh, Chief
[38:06] Ruth, what he has done and putting this
together. we definitely need to do
[38:10] something and our little burrow of 800
people need we need someone to help us.
[38:16] So thankfully this has come up and again
as um
[38:22] Kristen as Kristen said you know
becoming a regional approach seems to be
[38:27] the way the world is going. So thank you
for any consideration to this.
[38:31] Thank you.
[38:38] I was just gonna reiterate what Chris
said and and thank you for sharing Max
[38:41] because this has been uh vital work for
a lot of different municipalities. Um
[38:46] I'm the only non-elected um you to
discuss this plan and I think the work
[38:53] the electives have done has been vital.
Um you know we've been meeting as Max
[38:57] said weekly. We've gone through a bunch
of different iterations and
[39:00] considerations to try to come up with
something that is fair for everybody. Um
[39:05] that allows us to offset costs by taking
those insurance reimbursements and
[39:09] payments from individuals that utilize
the service and then share that back to
[39:14] the municipalities so that the ongoing
costs are less than um than just paying
[39:20] for a service. So um we want to make
sure that that this is uh equitable. We
[39:26] want to make sure that there is no delay
in providing the service to all the
[39:30] municipalities. Um, and we believe that
within this plan, we offset costs
[39:36] somewhere between a half and a third
depending and it will be reviewed
[39:40] quarterly. And I'm sure Max will go into
some of those specific details. But, um,
[39:45] we appreciate your consideration and
again, we're all here to be as
[39:49] supportive as we can um, and hope that
we can work together on this and many
[39:53] more things in the future.
Thank you. Thank you very much.
[40:00] Um, so as I said, Monday is our council
meeting. If anybody would like to come,
[40:04] we start at 7:30 at the Rutled Burrow
Hall. So, thank you. Thanks.
[40:14] I just want to before you uh even speak,
uh, thank Mayor Bill Hail of Rose Valley
[40:20] for the substantial on the-fly line
edits to resolution last night. They
[40:24] were very helpful. You and Matt Sullivan
should take the show on the road. I was
[40:27] really impressed. Matt Sullivan's like
the king of edits on the fly. Remember
[40:30] that? He used to always do that here.
So, uh, I just want to go over kind of
[40:36] the meat of this thing to make sure
everybody understands it. So, it's
[40:40] really the, uh, five points after the
whereas clauses in the beginning and I
[40:46] just going to we'll just go through
them. Number one, this idea we have the
[40:52] I want to make sure everyone has the
document pulled up correctly because I
[40:55] think there are multiple versions of the
document build printed copies for Is
[40:59] this the 5.1? These one that we have.
Okay. All right. We have Thank you.
[41:04] Okay. So number one, the ALS ALS
advanced life support
[41:12] services budget shall be defined as the
estimated quarterly costs providing ALS
[41:18] services including operating costs such
as salaries, benefits, insurance,
[41:23] training, supplies, and medical
supervision. Capital expenses for
[41:27] equipment such as cardiac monitors.
necessary upgrades to existing BLS
[41:33] ambulance to ALS capacity
reimbursements such as those from
[41:39] insurance companies and ind individuals
and other forms of revenue such as
[41:43] grants.
The ALS services budget shall be updated
[41:47] quarterly by the fire department as data
on actual operating costs, capital
[41:51] expenditures, reimbursements, and other
revenues becomes available over time.
[41:58] Any questions on that?
Number two, each meta each
[42:03] municipality's call percentage shall be
defined as the percentage of EMS calls
[42:08] located within that municipality
during the prior calendar year relative
[42:13] to the total number of EMS calls within
the municipalities during the year that
[42:17] year excluding the northern portions of
Nether Providence Township and Rose
[42:22] Valley Burough where media fire
company's ambulance is primary on the
[42:26] Delaware County 911 dispatch card system
and and the western portion of Rose
[42:31] Valley Burrow where Brook Havens Fire
Company Company's ambulance is primary.
[42:36] The call percentages shall be updated
annually based on the Delaware County
[42:40] EMS call data for the prior calendar
year. Any questions or concerns? So I
[42:47] just was um so this is assuming sort of
what there are six municipalities right
[42:52] that were joining the five. So, Nether,
Swathmore, Morton, Rutled, and Rose
[42:57] Valley are the five. Um, Nether's, you
know, going to vote on it tonight.
[43:02] Swathmore and Rose Valley have already
uh voted. Rutled Ridge will vote uh this
[43:07] coming Monday and Morton will vote on
the 25th. Okay. And so then is the idea
[43:12] like moving forward that if there's
other municipalities in the mix then
[43:17] they'll be brought into the discussion
at that point? So, this document,
[43:22] this agreement, we really kind of view
as a 17-month um kind of stop gap.
[43:26] There's a certain administrative
simplicity to it um because we needed to
[43:31] build something that would be able to
kind of take over in 90 days. Yeah,
[43:35] there's I would say kind of more complex
administrative structures that we are
[43:40] considering such as like the emergency
services authority that we've been
[43:43] discussing perhaps like the model that
Mesa had that will take a significantly
[43:49] longer time to set up. In our
conversation with them, it seems like
[43:52] they think it could take in the one to
two year time frame. So, um, as we're
[43:57] talking about that, you know, one of the
things that, um, I'd like to consider is
[44:02] we kind of pass this, which will hold
its way for 17 months, and then the EMS
[44:06] working group can continue to have
discussions to, you know, see if we can
[44:11] operationalize an authority potentially
expanding the number of kind of members
[44:17] um, during those conversations. Okay,
perfect. Sorry to interrupt you.
[44:22] Okay, any any other concerns with number
two?
[44:26] Okay. Number three, each m each each
municipality agrees to share the costs
[44:30] of the fire company's ALS ALS services
budget in portions to its call
[44:36] percentage as set forth in the following
table. And it gives the call
[44:41] percentages. It's 26 for Swathmore and
Morton, 40% 40% for Nether Providence,
[44:47] 5% for Rutledge, and 3% for Rose Valley.
and you just proportion the total
[44:52] quarterly cost
over the males.
[44:57] Uh the quarterly payment in the table
for the third calendar quarter
[45:02] of 2025 conservatively assumes no
reimbursements or other revenue for that
[45:07] quarter since reimbursement payments are
going to be delayed.
[45:12] Although this agreement takes effect on
August 1st, 2025 and ALS services must
[45:18] commence by that date, the fire company
will be incurring expenses in July,
[45:22] purchasing ALS capital equipment and
bringing paramedics on board. The ALS
[45:28] ambulance balance table shall be updated
quarterly as ALS services budget is
[45:34] quarterly updated and the call
percentages are annually updated.
[45:39] And so to clarify because we were
talking about how revenue would be used
[45:44] to offset um the the kind of ongoing
costs in a way to bring these costs
[45:48] down. So this is uh what you see here on
page two would be kind of our initial
[45:53] payment and as revenues start to come
in, you know, it takes a few months for
[45:57] the collection to to come in. Um those
will be kind of allocated to these. So
[46:03] the quarterly payment we make for the
fourth quarter at the end of 25 we
[46:08] anticipate to be less than this um for
two reasons. One um there's five months
[46:14] uh that we need to cover unbudgeted in
fiscal year 25. So one quarter is three
[46:19] months. This is three months worth of
payment. So the last quarter will be two
[46:23] months worth of payment. And it'll also
have beginnings of our collections in
[46:27] it. Um and so when you look at how much
we would be
[46:34] There's the number. When you look at if
we got zero collections, how much we
[46:39] would be paying um for the EMS services
um in 25 it would be $126,244.87.
[46:49] Um but because reimbursements will start
to roll in that actual amount that would
[46:53] pay maybe you know slightly less than
that and then you know even less as more
[46:57] uh kind of payments come in into the
beginning. So, do we have quotes like
[47:01] for the upfit of the ambulance? Like,
are are we certain on those costs or
[47:04] we're pretty certain that they and they
can do it by August 1st? So, I think
[47:08] some of those administrative questions
were probably best answered by Chief
[47:11] Booth. Um, but I'll say um, you know, we
have been internally kind of discussing
[47:17] that. We feel pretty good about the
quotes based on uh, Chief Booth's kind
[47:22] of personal experience. you know, the
the chief at Groger. Um, and some of
[47:26] these conversations have been externally
validated by one of the largest EMS
[47:30] companies in the state, Tower Health.
So, we kind of had multiple people lay
[47:34] eyes on this, but I'll let you answer
this. Sure. So, we have um obviously
[47:39] done this multiple ways and there's been
multiple iterations. So, we have the
[47:43] annual expected operational cost for
equipment. Um, so we believe that to be
[47:50] on an annual basis 88,000 that includes
a cost of $43,379
[47:57] for five years. Um, and that is for
cardiac monitors that need to be
[48:01] purchased for the paramedics. Um, it's a
0% interest over a fiveyear term. So
[48:07] that 43,000 will end after a 5year we
proceed over and like we have a quote
[48:12] for that that can just be accepted type
thing or sorry say that again. So so
[48:16] that that's like a that's a set number
like we can just sort of accept that.
[48:20] Sorry. Okay. in in the working group and
preparing for all this. We went forward,
[48:25] we identified costs on the park vendor
for medications, for uh we have a cost
[48:31] that we've set aside for medical
directions. We have to have a medical
[48:34] director that authorized the paramedics
to work underneath them. Um we have
[48:38] money set aside for training budget
because paramedics have to have certain
[48:42] certifications and they have to do
ongoing clinical education that has to
[48:45] be covered. Um and so with equipment,
which is the monitors, with supplies um
[48:52] training, medical correction, the uh
annual cost outside of payroll is
[48:58] 88,379.
The on the upfitting cost is
[49:04] significantly less than all those
medications up front. That's an ongoing
[49:08] utilization. So, we anticipate except
for the 43, which is a a fiveyear fixed
[49:14] cost, we anticipate the startup cost to
be 18 to $22,000
[49:20] um to get the annual ready to go. Again,
minus the 43 379, which is a a fiveyear
[49:26] fixed.
Okay. Yeah, that makes sense. Thanks.
[49:30] Yeah, I just was trying to figure out
like so it's there's sort of like a
[49:33] different between an estimate and like a
bid ready to be accepted, right? like so
[49:36] there there there won't be like
surprises in there. I think some of the
[49:40] a lot of the supplies like Striker gave
you a quote and correctly quote from
[49:44] Striker. Um we went through our medical
supply company and evaluated the cost of
[49:49] the medications and we actually
purposely to make sure that we didn't
[49:53] have surprises in people's budgets. We
didn't take our contract pricing. We
[49:57] took their publicly available pricing
which is slightly higher. not by a
[50:01] significant amount, but so there is a
buffer there in case that there's a
[50:05] price hike on a specific medication,
etc. Um, so we within all of our power
[50:10] and control, we don't expect anything
that's out of the ordinary. Obviously,
[50:15] there are things that we can't control,
but we did our best to do due diligence
[50:19] on all the costs.
Thanks. That makes sense.
[50:24] Um and yes,
so I think Helen has a pretty good
[50:28] handle on the costs. Then the question
is for the for the first quarter we're
[50:33] assuming no reimbursements and the
question is how much will reimbursements
[50:39] cover in the subsequent quarters and I
been talking to Colin and very roughly I
[50:46] think we could estimate in the fourth
quarter of 2025
[50:51] it'll be about half the initial
quarterly payment and in the four
[50:57] quarters of 2026 it'll be about a
because now you got your reimbursements
[51:02] coming in regularly and um so it's going
to be much lower than that initial
[51:06] payment going forward.
[51:10] Maybe it's helpful. So the way that we
came to this uh evaluation is we
[51:15] identified the number of expected
billable responses. So every time the
[51:19] ambulance gets called, it doesn't always
result in the ability to send a bill to
[51:23] insurance. It may be um that we don't
render care. It may be that there's no
[51:27] actual patient. someone called and
there's no need for our services etc. So
[51:32] we identified the total number of calls
in the uh affected areas that will be a
[51:36] part of this agreement. Um we did not
take into account what we call mutual
[51:40] aid which is going into other areas that
need our help when their assets are
[51:44] unavailable. So we took a conservative
number of incidents that we would bill
[51:49] to insurance. We took our average
reimbursement and we were conservative
[51:53] with that as well. We currently bill as
a BLS entity. we would bill at a higher
[51:57] rate as an ALS entity. So again, we used
our conservative BLS rate and we
[52:03] identified that we believe that the
total revenue from bill from billing
[52:07] insurance would be approximately
$540,000.
[52:11] Um so if our for broad numbers if our
annual cost is expected to be 757,000
[52:17] and our revenue is 540,000
then the projected cost shared by the
[52:23] municipalities would then be 217 instead
of the original 757.
[52:29] I know that's a lot of numbers I'm
having to answer question, but that
[52:32] explains the process that we utilize to
get to where we where we are with our
[52:36] budget and and it also um again
highlights why we want to build this
[52:41] ourselves because all the contractors
that we've looked at um you know there's
[52:46] kind of set costs year-over-year and
they use a chase car model which doesn't
[52:49] have the same kind of reimbursement
strength that the mobile ICU model which
[52:53] we're we're hoping to build locally do
does. So we we really feel like this
[52:56] will be the most cost effective one.
Makes sense.
[53:02] Um great.
Okay. I'll move on to uh item number
[53:07] four.
Each municipality
[53:11] hereby individually agrees to make their
payment to Swathmore Burough on August
[53:16] 1st, 2025 for the third calendar quarter
of 2025 as shown in the AL services
[53:24] budget table and to make each subsequent
quarterly payment as recalculated
[53:30] quarterly based on best available data
from the fire company no later than the
[53:36] 15th day of the second month of each
calendar quarter. Any
[53:41] questions? Number five. Each
municipality here individually agrees to
[53:45] annually budget the necessary funds
starting in 2026 to allow for quarterly
[53:50] payments to Swathmore Burough based on
estimated costs to be provided by the
[53:54] fire company.
And I think that's the gist of it.
[54:02] This was all uh very um helpful. I want
to this is a complex document. I know
[54:08] and this is um you know kind of a
complex concept I've been talking about
[54:13] it with the board for the last few
meetings um even you know before then
[54:16] kind of informally um I think it maybe
be helpful if we just open up for
[54:21] questions that any of the board members
have and I'd be happy to answer any
[54:25] questions as you know well as any of our
kind of guests who have been working
[54:29] through the working group. I will just
say Max has been I mean very
[54:34] communicative at least um you know with
anyone that wanted to to questions
[54:39] answered and I feel like I have pestered
you and we're um you know that that it's
[54:44] it's a lot I know and um I appreciate
all the work that you've put into it. I
[54:48] appreciate the work that everyone has
put into this. I it's actually amazing
[54:51] to me what's been accomplished in such a
short period of time. I mean, this went
[54:54] from sort of an emergency situation,
which it still is, but to like there
[54:58] there is a solution. And it's it's
really great that the five neighboring
[55:01] municipalities have figured out how to
work together so well and so quickly.
[55:04] And um I don't have any questions now
because you've answered them over the
[55:08] last month or so. So, thank you. Yep.
No, I I I agree. You know, hats off to
[55:12] you, Max, and I thank our neighbors for
for coming out here. I think this is a
[55:15] real model of how we can work together,
and hopefully it's a model with the fire
[55:19] um study that we're undertaking. So,
it's really a great thing. And like Kate
[55:22] said, I mean, this came off this
happened so fast in a good way with a
[55:26] lot of work being done. Um Max has been
communicative, so I feel like I have a
[55:30] good grasp of what we're doing here
tonight.
[55:33] Yeah, I just wanted to say thank you to
to Max and of course um our our
[55:38] neighbors. This is such an important
issue. It did happen very fast. Clearly
[55:42] passion around the project kind of
accelerated it. So I really appreciate
[55:47] it. I did have one question though. Mhm.
So there's a lot of um accounting for
[55:53] things that happen the quarterly um
installment payments etc. And I
[55:58] understand the concept of it. Who is
responsible for accounting for that and
[56:03] actually moving the money around? And if
there was a question regarding some of
[56:08] the information coming in that there was
a challenge who who is the ultimate
[56:12] mediator?
Well, I guess maybe I'll answer this
[56:16] with Colin's help. How how does that um
so my understanding based on my
[56:22] conversations with Carl and Bob and the
working group uh are that we need to as
[56:27] a municipality enter into an agreement
with the other municipalities. We can't
[56:30] enter into an agreement directly with
Swathmore's uh fire protected service.
[56:36] So the agreements are amongst the
municipalities and then Swathmore
[56:39] designates fire protective service uh as
the the entity that it will will be
[56:43] carrying on. So, as far as the kind of
moving the money around, it would my
[56:48] understanding it would have to go from
Nether Providence to Swathmore, who
[56:52] would then disperse the monies to the
fire protective agency. As far as who's
[56:59] doing the um accounting and uh like the
revenues and and whatnot on your end, I
[57:06] think that's probably a better question
for you, but I know you have a a board
[57:08] governance and we're talking about
search administration. Sure. So, uh, so
[57:12] we're an independent 501c3. Um,
obviously we work closely with the
[57:16] burrow. Um, so we have a board of
directors, but we will be, uh, for this
[57:21] project. And one of the line items that
we didn't really talk about is, um,
[57:24] having a ALS supervisor dedicated for
this. And so, one of their focuses will
[57:31] be making sure that we have monthly
reports that we can provide to all the
[57:34] municipalities that are involved and
then making sure that we're updating the
[57:37] table on a quarterly basis. And so um
it's not a person but it will be the
[57:43] supervisor in conjunction with myself
and then it'll go through our board of
[57:47] directors and then go out to all of the
municipalities leadership and we can
[57:51] designate whether that's someone from
the working group or to the entire
[57:54] boards. That's really up to the
municipalities and how they would like
[57:57] to receive that information.
I I think that that all makes sense. And
[58:02] so we we had actually discussed as a
board several years ago having our
[58:07] auditor also sort of audit the fire
companies and we didn't move forward
[58:10] with that. But I wonder I mean it's not
something sort of to decide tonight but
[58:13] I wonder if we eventually would want to
just you know if if this is going to be
[58:18] sort of an ongoing thing if if we're
moving towards the um what is it the
[58:23] regional regional model whatever we're
calling that. Um, so this is sort of a
[58:27] temporary gap, but like what you know,
we should think if this stays in place
[58:30] for longer we should think about because
it didn't seem like it was very much and
[58:33] I feel like that would actually be a
good thing for everyone to sort of show
[58:35] their municipality like this is how
we're moving forward and these are the
[58:38] check. I can I can share and Chris might
have something to add. Um, so we again
[58:42] as an independent agency we have a
financial review every year and it's um
[58:47] I'm not a finance person so bear with
me. It is not a full audit, but it is a
[58:53] f there's something right below a full
audit and it's called like a financial
[58:56] review or Morin, do our firehouses do
that? Maybe you don't know off the top
[58:59] of our head your head. I feel like they
weren't even doing that. So that maybe
[59:03] that's I mean so I so I mean we we do
that as a matter of course we've had
[59:07] discussions internally with our bureau
about a full audit and the the limiting
[59:12] factor for for our board has been is an
increased cost. Yeah. Um, so that
[59:16] increases the budget, but we're not
opposed to it in any way, shape, or
[59:19] form. And again, my pledge to all of
this and throughout the working group is
[59:24] transparency is the most important thing
for all of us. I don't think there's I'm
[59:27] so I'm very happy that we have this
place. It's going to be a place and that
[59:30] we're all going to move forward. Just
something to throw out there because I
[59:33] think, you know, that if I'm thinking
through what a resident might be
[59:36] concerned about, this is a really big
expense and sort of how are we making
[59:39] sure that this all sort of sorted out
and there's we can all be comfortable
[59:43] just continuing moving forward with it.
Yeah. and and and we're working it out
[59:47] very quickly as you know and so it's
everything's moving fast. Um but we have
[59:51] had conversations about hiring a
controller, keeping the funds separate.
[59:55] Um so as we move forward all of those
things will happen and I'm sure it will
[1:00:00] get even better as we move along but
those discussions are taking place right
[1:00:03] now. Okay, perfect. Yeah.
Anybody else?
[1:00:11] Yes. I spec if if you would like to come
up, I'd love to hear your thoughts. I
[1:00:17] Okay, perfect. Simple is good. So, the
the first payment would be due August
[1:00:22] 1st and then there would be another
quarterly payment due by the end of the
[1:00:25] year. So, there' be two in our case
$75,000 payments due in 2025. So, the
[1:00:30] first payment would be 75,000 uh because
that's accounting for a full quarter,
[1:00:36] right? Um, but you know it's five months
and so there's going to be one full
[1:00:42] quarter and one that's twothirds of a
quarter. So we can do math whatever
[1:00:45] twothirds of 75 less whatever the
reimbursements we're able to collect in
[1:00:49] that first few months will be the
second. Thank you. Yeah. Um I actually
[1:00:53] had some some questions for you Katie.
[1:00:58] Um I know we had been talking um about
kind of what the financial flexibility
[1:01:03] that we had Nether was. Um, and I know
we felt very confident that um, $100,000
[1:01:10] is doable. This is, you know, obviously
a little bit higher than that, but I
[1:01:12] think you said that you were going to
continue a review. So, if you could
[1:01:16] maybe comment on, you know, um, I did do
another review of the budget where we
[1:01:20] are right now and the fund balance and I
feel comfortable that this is
[1:01:24] manageable. I think I think the reality
with our budget is that we have done a
[1:01:27] good job building our general fund over
the last several years. Um, and you
[1:01:31] know, I think what was it eight years
ago when Matt and I started on the
[1:01:34] board, that was not the case. So we have
really um made some conservative
[1:01:38] decisions and I think something like
this is sort of the exact um reason why
[1:01:42] we've done that. So this is an
unbudgeted expense. It is very big but
[1:01:46] it is very necessary. So I think we will
make it happen however we have to but I
[1:01:49] do think we have enough um flexibility
in the general fund as we built it for
[1:01:53] almost a decade. No, you're totally
right and this is kind of the emergency
[1:01:56] we were always concerned about eight
years ago when we didn't have the fund
[1:01:59] balance that we do now. So absolutely
why we got to do what we do. Thank you.
[1:02:03] So, I'll I just want to thank Matt and
Kate for their kind of financial
[1:02:06] leadership putting us in the position
where we could uh consider this. And
[1:02:10] yes, Bill, just a quick clarification in
in a previous version, we were talking
[1:02:14] about only five months in 2025. Correct.
But it works out better if you do it has
[1:02:20] two quarters because they be they're
going to be spending money in July. They
[1:02:24] got to buy a lot of equipment. All
right. So, that'll be part of the
[1:02:28] third quarter of 2025. That will be a
real quarter. The payments made August
[1:02:33] 30, August 1st for that quarter. The
next quarter is paid next quarterly
[1:02:37] payment is paid November 15th. Okay. For
the fourth quarter of 2025. Thank you
[1:02:42] for clarifying that. And so some of
these um details and final
[1:02:47] clarifications are, you know, why I've
been having a sidebar with our solicitor
[1:02:51] um about what exactly to approve. We
have both a resolution in front of us
[1:02:56] and an agreement. Um, and so what I was
talking about with our solicitor is
[1:03:00] passing a resolution that authorizes
perhaps Kate, perhaps me, whatever
[1:03:05] people want to do, uh, authorizes, uh,
them to execute an EMS cost sharing
[1:03:11] agreement, which would be substantially
similar to this with a few
[1:03:14] non-substantial edits to make sure that,
you know, all the kind of final lines
[1:03:19] are. So, for now with financial issues,
we should be checking in with Conlin
[1:03:23] just like if Katie had that question
came up that was like, what's the exact
[1:03:26] amount? It would be you for now that
Okay.
[1:03:30] Okay. Um are there any other questions?
Okay. Um then this is a long resolution,
[1:03:38] but what I'll do is I'll introduce the
top of it and then I'll read the the
[1:03:42] substantial section at the end. Um so
Nether Providence Township, Delaware
[1:03:46] County, Pennsylvania, resolution number
2025-08.
[1:03:51] Resolution of the township commissioners
of the township of Nether Providence,
[1:03:53] Deler County, Pennsylvania, authorizing
the appropriate township officials to
[1:03:57] take any and all action to approve an
intergovernmental shared services
[1:04:00] agreement for emergency medical
services. There's a number of whereases
[1:04:05] including a misspelled version of PROER
which we will edit. Um and then at the
[1:04:10] end now therefore be it resolved by the
township commissioners of the township
[1:04:14] of Nether Provident, Delaware County,
Pennsylvania, that agreement is approved
[1:04:18] as follows. The township commissioners
hereby authorize uh Kate McKenzie uh to
[1:04:25] execute an EMS cost sharing agreement um
which will be substantially similar to
[1:04:30] the document um in front of everyone uh
labeled exhibit A. The emergency medical
[1:04:36] cost sharing agreement
um will be um incorporated herein um uh
[1:04:42] as a as a reference document. Um,
township manager, township staff, and
[1:04:46] president of the board of commissioners
are authorized to execute any and all
[1:04:49] documents and take actions necessary for
the township um to enter uh the
[1:04:54] agreement. Do I have a second? Second.
Any comments or questions?
[1:05:00] Hearing none. All those in favor, please
note so by saying I. I. Any opposition?
[1:05:06] And the motion passes seven up. Thank
you, Gordy. Thank you guys all for I
[1:05:11] mean the fact that you're here tonight
really shows how this has gone. So thank
[1:05:15] you madam madam madam president if I
could or Max if I could just jump in
[1:05:19] real quick. I just wanted to thank all
of you as well. Really appreciate it.
[1:05:21] It's nice to have uh fans here tonight.
So
[1:05:25] Robert's our most polite because not
every since since we didn't have a lot
[1:05:29] of fans we appreciate
anyway.
[1:05:34] Um, so that is the meat of my agenda,
but it's not the entirety of my agenda.
[1:05:37] And you are welcome to stay or you are
welcome to go.
[1:05:41] Thank you.
[1:05:53] It's been a pleasure to work with all of
you. Really thank
[1:05:59] Hey, thanks again.
[1:06:04] Thank you for having
um Max, thanks to you as well and Kate
[1:06:08] and Matt, all you guys thanks the
fabulous Moren, Kate, everyone. I
[1:06:13] couldn't do anything uh without the um
we're all better off the support of the
[1:06:18] rest of the board. So, thank you all for
for your trust. Um all right, so the
[1:06:22] last item on my agenda is an aqua paving
contribution. I love these. I love
[1:06:26] paving roads. Everyone knows that. Uh so
this is Oaknull Drive. Uh so this is
[1:06:32] just south of Matt's neighborhood, south
of uh the the train tracks and sorry
[1:06:37] just a little down the hill from where
we're at now. Um so Aqua is offering
[1:06:41] $150,840
for the township to perform and complete
[1:06:45] at its sole responsibility. Uh the
pavement restoration which will involve
[1:06:48] a trench uh based restoration as well as
some milling and overlay work. Um in
[1:06:53] consideration uh for the receipt of the
contribution um the township would
[1:06:58] further agree to be responsible for
supplying all necessary materials
[1:07:01] performing the installation assuming
full responsibility for the work um and
[1:07:06] would release Aqua from all liability
and damage arising from this work. Um so
[1:07:11] uh for the commissioners um who who
don't recall or for anyone uh who's kind
[1:07:16] of listening in from home or reviewing
minutes you know 10 years hence um it's
[1:07:20] become the kind of recent practice of
the township rather than have Aqua
[1:07:25] complete the resurfacing work um as they
have historically done. uh it's been the
[1:07:30] practice to accept payment in lie of
because when we've been able to put it
[1:07:34] out to bid, we've been able to get the
same amount of work done with a little
[1:07:37] extra that we've been able to uh kind of
redistribute to other road resurfacing
[1:07:41] projects. So, this is a continuation of
that uh recent practice. And it's
[1:07:46] projected based on the numbers I have in
front of me uh to cost the township
[1:07:50] $130,000 to complete the work. So, that
would be uh you know $20,000 that we're
[1:07:55] then able to um supply to other road
projects. Is that is that curb to curb?
[1:08:00] I'll let Charles review some details. Is
that So Aqua's going to give us 150 and
[1:08:05] it cost 130 to repave curve to Yeah.
Okay. All right.
[1:08:12] That's a pretty pretty good bid. Oh,
that's an Sure. Sorry. Um, did they tear
[1:08:19] up the concrete gutters on that street
or just the academy? I believe
[1:08:25] Okay. Okay.
[1:08:28] Um, so you know the question I pose uh
to the board, does the township want to
[1:08:32] accept this offer? It would certainly be
in line with fast practice. Um, and if
[1:08:36] so, we'll need to uh put a bid package
together and advertise. Otherwise, Aqua
[1:08:40] will pave it in late July. I mean, yes,
I assume such. Do we need to have a vote
[1:08:46] or is this the general kind of
acclamation? Okay. Um then I move uh the
[1:08:54] Nether Providence uh accept payment from
Aqua in lie of uh the resurfacing work
[1:09:00] for the Oakno Drive project um to the
amount of $150,840.
[1:09:07] Uh do I have a second? Second. Um any
comments or questions? All those in
[1:09:12] favor so by saying I. I. Any opposition?
Seeing none, the motion passes 70. Uh so
[1:09:20] look forward to reviewing uh those bids
at an upcoming meeting and I turn it
[1:09:24] back to you, President McKenzie. Thank
you. And Commissioner Barnes has some
[1:09:27] time constraints and has asked to go
next. So we'll turn it over to her for
[1:09:31] community health and environment report.
Thank you. I apologize. I have to leave
[1:09:35] early, but I do have a couple things. Uh
I have some EAC updates. They sent a
[1:09:40] balloon awareness blurp. So I will read
that for you. Um, mass balloon releases
[1:09:46] may seem harmless, but they have serious
consequences for animals in the
[1:09:51] environment. Once released, all balloons
eventually fall back to the ground,
[1:09:55] waterways, or into trees where they
become dangerous litter. Wildlife like
[1:09:59] turtles and birds often mistake balloon
fragments for food or become entangled
[1:10:03] in attached strings and ribbons, leading
to injury or death. Balloons are among
[1:10:08] the most lethal types of plastic
pollution for wildlife. Farm animals are
[1:10:13] also at risk. Balloon debris that lands
in fields and pastures can be
[1:10:17] accidentally ingested by grazing animals
such as cows, sheep, and ghosts,
[1:10:22] potentially leading to the internal
blockages, illness, or death. Balloon uh
[1:10:28] ribbons and strings can also pose
entanglement hazards in yards or on
[1:10:31] farmland. Please think twice before
releasing balloons into the environment.
[1:10:37] That's that. And also from the last uh
EAC meeting, there was talk of interest
[1:10:44] to have a community garden. Um we're
looking at places that it potentially
[1:10:51] could go. It needs to go somewhere where
there where there's water access and all
[1:10:54] that. So it's it's something for the
future to think about. And uh
[1:11:01] next up, the other group is the
historical commission. Um we are looking
[1:11:06] for someone to join the commission and
to chair it. Right now we have some
[1:11:10] people who are in it. Uh we tried to
ramp it up uh earlier last year but
[1:11:15] unfortunately nobody wanted to chair and
it's not really something that I can do
[1:11:20] myself. So uh if you're interested in
history and want to work with the
[1:11:26] township,
please, you know, let us know. We'd be
[1:11:30] happy to have you.
Next up, we have the summer camp. All of
[1:11:36] our counselors and volunteers are ready
to go and all staff positions have been
[1:11:40] filled. We are still accepting camper
registrations. For more information or
[1:11:44] to register, please contact the township
office. And my last item is about family
[1:11:50] funday. Uh we are accepting vendor
applications. To join us for family
[1:11:55] funday on Saturday, October 11th. For
more information, please visit our
[1:11:59] Facebook page. And if you have
questions, you can contact Mona Price at
[1:12:03] mpriceprovidence.org
or me at sfarnesprovidence.org.
[1:12:09] And that is the end of my report. Thank
you. Thank you. And certainly excuse if
[1:12:14] you need to run. Um I am going to go
next because I also have time to
[1:12:18] straight. My son is a hockey unit and it
starts at 10 o'clock tonight which I
[1:12:20] find ridiculous.
Um it's past my bedtime. So I am going
[1:12:27] to start with the Bills list. Um we have
somewhat of an abbreviated list tonight
[1:12:33] which works out. Um we'll start with the
AP bills list. There are sever several
[1:12:39] aqua charges. These are our hydrants.
The charges for uh the month of May. Our
[1:12:44] recycling BNL recycling. Katie, how are
we doing with our recycling contract?
[1:12:48] Have you compared that recently? Our
charges.
[1:12:54] Oh, awesome. Yeah. So, I I went to an
event um this weekend and um one of the
[1:13:01] members of the EAC had mentioned that we
asked them to review because they should
[1:13:04] be looking at our actual recycling
versus an average. Yeah. So, that's very
[1:13:09] exciting. I'm glad that that the EAC was
able to work that out. Yeah, that was
[1:13:13] something we were discussing at the last
meeting. It was very interesting. Yeah,
[1:13:16] it's it's great that they are finding
all these things. Yeah. All right. Well,
[1:13:19] that's really great news. Um
and so that will go back into the to the
[1:13:24] recycling fund and be taken to into
consideration when we're setting rates
[1:13:28] for uh you know the coming years.
Next charges is our medical and dental
[1:13:34] insurance um for the insurance provider
divot. Um on page
[1:13:41] is that two? No, three top page three.
um
[1:13:49] several property tax credits for our
volunteer firefighters. Um on page
[1:13:54] three,
[1:13:58] um Lanzetta landscaping top of page four
for the fence at the public works yard,
[1:14:04] which looks really great. At the public
works is really looking wonderful. It's
[1:14:07] I'm really impressed.
Um and
[1:14:15] On to page five.
Abeneio. No, I'm probably not saying
[1:14:19] that right. Contractors. The Henry Lane
drainage improvements. Charles, how are
[1:14:23] we doing with that project? Correct.
[1:14:29] I would say in the next
[1:14:35] Okay.
[1:14:40] Okay. All right. Well, that's great
news. Um and then
[1:14:45] on some several more
property tax credits for volunteer
[1:14:50] firefighters and um a charge for Whitmer
assoc and associates for new handguns
[1:14:56] for the police department.
Um on to the interim bills list.
[1:15:04] Um a charge on
page one for pilla construction. That's
[1:15:10] public works. Was that the lift? What
was that charge for? About $8,000 per
[1:15:16] pill. Do we know else? The roof. Okay.
[1:15:22] So, we're
would this be a question for you guys or
[1:15:26] Charles? How are we doing with like the
charges generally for public works
[1:15:28] garage? Are we pretty much finished with
all the expenses there?
[1:15:34] I
I believe we're just waiting for the um
[1:15:40] installation and the finalization of the
um cameras. Okay. Um I still I think
[1:15:45] we're still waiting for some charges
from that and then everything should be
[1:15:49] completed, but they're installed. We're
just waiting for charges for them. Yes.
[1:15:52] Okay. All right. That's good. Um and
then on page two, the traffic safety
[1:15:59] store. Um traffic supplies paid with the
divot grant.
[1:16:05] Okay. Which ones were those? Were those
the cross?
[1:16:09] Oh, okay. Gotcha. So, just general
supplies that we needed.
[1:16:15] All right. And there wasn't anything out
of the ordinary on the AP list, AP bills
[1:16:22] list, but we can look through that
briefly. a couple municipal um like
[1:16:27] uniform charges um some
minor items
[1:16:33] um for use at the public works or for
the at the tonic building some
[1:16:38] landscaping supplies
um an accreditation charge
[1:16:43] some very minor items on here this month
um
[1:16:52] all right I will make a motion to
approve Approve the AP bills list in the
[1:16:55] amount of $349,3669.
[1:16:59] The AP interim bills list in the amount
of $25,83.34.
[1:17:05] And the AP card list in the amount of
$35,897.
[1:17:10] Can I get a second? Second. Second. Any
comments or questions? All in favor,
[1:17:14] vote by saying I. I. I. Any opposed?
That motion carries 70.
[1:17:19] And it's okay.
And Matt and I are going to sign this
[1:17:23] and then I am going to turn it over to
you.
[1:17:27] Okay.
[1:17:37] Thanks.
[1:17:40] All right. So, I guess maybe you can
finish the um find
[1:18:10] four out of seven.
Come on, two.
[1:18:15] Enjoy
[1:18:25] your
happy boys.
[1:18:35] All right, we keep rocking and rolling.
All right. Uh,
[1:18:41] the next item on the agenda is a
ratification of a contract with TAR
[1:18:45] recycling. It's come to our attention
that the Pennsylvania Department of
[1:18:48] Environmental Protection requires a
signed contract with PAR recycling or
[1:18:53] our e-recycling collection bin at the
public works garage. Though PAR does not
[1:18:57] charge the township a fee to collect the
contents of the bin, a contract is still
[1:19:01] required to ensure the township isn't
saddled with recycling that we can't
[1:19:04] process if PAR decides not to continue
pickup. The contract underwent legal
[1:19:09] review before being signed by the
assistant manager. It needs to be
[1:19:12] ratified by our board of commissioners.
Um, all right. So, we just need to vote
[1:19:17] on this and apparently there's an
agreement that will be signed. Um, so I
[1:19:22] will move to ratify the contract with
PAR recycling with respect to the
[1:19:27] e-recycling collection bin at the public
works garage.
[1:19:32] I get a second. Seconded. Any comments
or questions?
[1:19:37] Uh, hearing none. All those in favor,
please vote by saying I. I. Any opposed?
[1:19:41] That carries
five
[1:19:45] 50 5-0.
Uh, the next item on the agenda is the
[1:19:49] healing the plant tree grant. Keep
Pennsylvania Beautiful is offering
[1:19:53] healing the planet grants funded by the
giant company, which aims to invest in
[1:19:57] tree plantings across the company's
operating areas in Pennsylvania. A total
[1:20:01] of $112,000 in funding will be awarded
to taxexempt organizations for tree
[1:20:05] planting projects this year. Projects
need to be shovel ready and include tree
[1:20:09] planting and direct costs relating to
tree planting. Uh KPB is accepting
[1:20:14] applications for grants up to $4,000
through 4 p.m. July 1 of this year. No
[1:20:19] matches required. The planting and grant
paperwork must be completed before
[1:20:24] December 10, 2025.
Um, so the action for the board this
[1:20:28] evening is a vote to authorize approval
to apply for the grant. Um, this seems
[1:20:32] like a no-brainer to me. So I will move
to apply for the grant for tree planting
[1:20:39] funded by the giant company
uh in the amount of $4,000.
[1:20:45] Make a second. Second. Sorry. I have a I
guess a a question. Um, yes, let's get
[1:20:50] money for trees. I'm all for that. Uh,
is there a particular park or corridor
[1:20:54] you guys had in mind? I assume if we get
the grant then we could decide. The
[1:20:57] applicant was just um the EAC or I'm
sorry the Shade Tree Commission is the
[1:21:02] one who asked us to apply for this grant
and they are hoping to restore some of
[1:21:06] the trees that were um taken down in the
storm over at Galie Park. Oh, okay. All
[1:21:12] right. Thank you. Um okay. Any other
comments or questions? Hearing none. All
[1:21:18] those in favor, please vote by saying I.
I. I. Any opposed? All right. That
[1:21:23] carries. 5 Z. Let's see. We need to now
go back to the parks and open space
[1:21:30] committee report with Commissioner Henry
and public finance. Thank you. You got
[1:21:35] it. Skipping around today. I'm gonna try
to be quick, but I do want to say I have
[1:21:40] two things to report on. One's a parks
update and one's a parks committee
[1:21:44] update. Um, we often hear um a mixture
of of good feedback and negative
[1:21:52] feedback about the parks and I just
wanted to take a moment to dwell on the
[1:21:57] positive um because there is a lot of
work that goes into what people enjoy
[1:22:03] around this community and I think
sometimes it it's people are not aware
[1:22:09] of it takes an army. So, big thanks to
everybody here. Of course, township
[1:22:14] manager, the assistant township manager,
Charles, um the public works department
[1:22:19] has been just killing themselves trying
to do a lot of work around the
[1:22:23] community. I think sometimes that maybe
we're not communicating out well and
[1:22:28] everything they're doing. So, I just
wanted to take an opportunity to thank
[1:22:31] everyone and and kind of end this on a
positive note. Um but just specifically
[1:22:36] around the parks updates for those who
don't know um over the past two weeks
[1:22:41] there's been significant progress with
the parks projects. The walking path and
[1:22:44] picnic grove at Martha Burton Park have
been completed. Um there's still some
[1:22:49] cleanup to be done around that path but
all the material had materials have been
[1:22:52] put in place. The four square area has
been dug out and stoned in preparation
[1:22:57] for paving. um at Sappovitz started to
work digging out the path and placing
[1:23:03] stone in the excavated area. Plan to
continue working on the path at the park
[1:23:08] this week and into next week. Weather
looks good. Uh with all the rain we've
[1:23:13] received in the last two weeks since we
installed the burm at Gouley, we've been
[1:23:16] able to see that it is working to keep
the water and screening off the turf
[1:23:19] field, which is great news. We plan to
make further improvements in the water
[1:23:23] management issues at Gully when the crew
is working there for the grant project.
[1:23:27] Um and lastly, there's been some um a
lot of great activity through the parks
[1:23:32] committee and there's some love our
parks events uh that are being planned.
[1:23:36] Uh the committee is planning to host an
event at each of the township parks
[1:23:40] through the end of the year. Uh the
first event will be a ribbon cutting
[1:23:44] ceremony at Furnace ceremony at Furnest
Park on Saturday, June 21st. The second
[1:23:50] is a guided bird walk at Houston Park on
Saturday, June 28th um hosted by the
[1:23:55] bird town committee and additional
information becomes available about
[1:23:59] upcoming parks events. We'll update the
board of commissioners and share details
[1:24:03] of the township website and Facebook
page. And I would encourage the
[1:24:07] commissioners to distribute that
information to their words. So with
[1:24:10] that, I conclude my report. Thank you.
Um, and with that, I'll pass it along to
[1:24:15] Commissioner Okconor for the
infrastructure and public works
[1:24:18] committee report. Thank you very much,
Mr. Garson. And, uh, with that said, I
[1:24:24] just have a brief update on the public
works. Um, the tension vehicles and
[1:24:27] equipment were have been maintained or
continue to be maintained over the past
[1:24:31] couple of weeks. In accordance with the
maintenance schedule, in addition to
[1:24:34] that, the new F550
has been put into service for the crew
[1:24:38] for use. Over the past couple of weeks,
crews have been out fixing storm inlets
[1:24:43] on Governor's Drive, cleaning inlets,
and cutting brush away from signs and
[1:24:48] roadways around the township. Crews have
also started repairing stop signs or
[1:24:53] stop signs, stop sign, stop bars, excuse
me, around the township. As part of our
[1:24:59] summer painting, the public works
department plans to continue doing the
[1:25:03] work on the stop bars and crosswalks
throughout the remainder of the summer.
[1:25:08] There have also been crews working on
sanitary sewer maintenance and
[1:25:12] investigating a sewer issue that was
found to exist on Hemlock Road. The
[1:25:16] public work crews public works crews
have also made multiple mulch deliveries
[1:25:21] and also have bagged leaf pickups and
have had bulk tra and additionally uh
[1:25:28] worked on the bulk trash event last
weekend. And uh to echo what Beth said
[1:25:32] uh we all appreciate very much the work
that they do. And I wanted to I was
[1:25:36] actually going to say something. I
wanted to thank just Moren and Katie and
[1:25:39] all you guys. You I mean I just like I
try not to bug you guys during the week,
[1:25:43] but I can just throw an email out there
and you know if I just wait like a day
[1:25:46] or so like or maybe even a few hours,
you never know. It's whatever. You know,
[1:25:49] it could be sometimes it's so fast I
don't even see it. Um because I get busy
[1:25:53] and I don't even notice it. But anyway,
it's really nice. I really appreciate it
[1:25:56] a lot. Chief obviously does the same
thing. Charles as well. I know you
[1:26:00] chimed in on something this week. So, I
really appreciate it because uh like I
[1:26:04] tell people, if anyone can make me look
good, they must be doing a fabulous job.
[1:26:07] So,
so thank you. I appreciate it.
[1:26:12] Thank you. Uh now up is Commissioner
Carbone for the building and zoning
[1:26:15] committee report. You so the next zoning
hearing board meeting will be this
[1:26:20] upcoming Monday, June 15th. There are
four applications on the agenda. The
[1:26:26] first is at 0 South Providence Road. We
are appealing the township denial of
[1:26:32] their zoning permit application to
construct a single family detached
[1:26:36] dwelling to be operated as a personal
care assisted living facility which is
[1:26:42] comprising of 16 beds for elderly people
with disabilities to allow the proposed
[1:26:47] use under the American with Disabilities
and the Fair Housing Act.
[1:26:53] The second application is 600 South
Providence Road, the Spring Haven Club,
[1:26:58] requesting a variance to install an
additional pole for the netting.
[1:27:04] Third is 910 True Penny Lane, requesting
variances to permit the construction of
[1:27:11] multiple one-story and twotory additions
and a one-story attached garage to the
[1:27:16] property. And the final is five Morgan
Lane requesting a variance to construct
[1:27:22] a 305 305 square foot deck with a
covered porch. And that concludes my
[1:27:28] report. Thank you. Uh Morgan, just a
procedural question for the next zoning
[1:27:31] board meeting. I know that some of the
um applicants at the next meeting on
[1:27:36] Monday, June 16, were at the prior
meeting and and they didn't get reached
[1:27:39] just because um the one application took
so long. Correct. To the extent that
[1:27:43] that the continuation of that
application is going to take an extended
[1:27:47] period of time, do you think we could
get the other people on the agenda first
[1:27:50] just so just to make sure that everybody
gets through? No. No. The um the zero
[1:27:55] Providence Road, they heard all the
testimony for the hearing and closed the
[1:27:59] case. Okay. Uh the board members um just
have to rule had they their Thank you.
[1:28:06] Okay. They just had to do their final
ruling and vote and that will be taken
[1:28:10] first. um no testimony will be heard for
that application and then we will
[1:28:16] continue to move straight on to the
rest. Yeah, I just wanted to make sure
[1:28:19] um you know we get through everything.
So that perfect. Thank you. We have to
[1:28:23] get through everything with our
restraints with the um MPC. Right. All
[1:28:27] right. Um well with that I'll pass it to
you for your report
[1:28:32] for me. Yeah.
All right. I just have um one event um
[1:28:37] over at Delaware County Rose Tree Park.
There is going to be an electronics
[1:28:42] recycling collection event on Wednesday,
June 18th from 9:00 a.m. to 1:00 p.m. Um
[1:28:49] there's um registration is required.
We're going to be posting the flyer um
[1:28:54] on our website and Facebook page. So, we
that'll have all the information for the
[1:28:59] registration process and um cost for
some items have a cost, some do not, but
[1:29:04] all that will be detailed on the flyer
that we will um it's in the
[1:29:07] commissioner's packets, but we will also
be posting it on our website and
[1:29:11] Facebook page.
[1:29:14] That it awesome. Um all right, so we
will now adjourn this evening's meeting.
[1:29:19] The next commissioner's meeting is our
combined meeting on July 24th. See you
[1:29:24] then. Good night. Anything
[1:29:30] for tech?
There is I don't I guess second I'll
[1:29:35] turn off the record questions.