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It's 10 o'clock, we're going to get the meeting going. It's swapping, man, so it has the same equal. No,

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it isn't official. All right, so we have a vote to open the meeting at this time and review the minutes.

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I'll make a motion open the meeting and approve the minutes. Is there

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any public comment?

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We're

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going to

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have a presentation by Brody Mountain Todd do you mind if we have someone

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who just wants us to sign the maps to go ahead of you so they don't have to, while you're on the agenda first, so, give it up.

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So, Louisa?

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Yeah, okay.

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The

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simple A&R, do you guys see that?

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The simple A&R in a couple of years ago,

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this was made into a bunch of lots from maybe

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to two lots and all they're doing is sloppy two equal pieces of land and putting them

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with the other lot because they need more land here so they're taking it from here and

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going to this lot.

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It means all the criteria, if he's a not individual building box, they will be combined

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in the part of one.

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So, lot of two's.

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Configuration will be changed in lot of ones.

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Configuration will be changed.

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Is this on Abraham Road?

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Yes.

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This is Kelly Lane.

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Where's their frontage come?

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I'm seven.

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I'm seven.

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They're frontages on seven.

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No, this is single.

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Well, this is single.

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And his frontage is here.

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And the frontage never changes just like these are the new houses that they've started over there. This one is up here

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They haven't done this yet and they need this to build his house in his septic over here. Yeah, it's not changing any frontage

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It's not great separate law. Right. It's gonna be right. It's just a landslide between it's a private thing between two that needs our

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Yes, that's exactly what it is.

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Do you have any more questions, or do you, sorry, now that I

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get it, I take a sense,

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probably.

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One level in there or something, probably.

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Where was the septic system approved?

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Do you remember?

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They did one down by, uh,

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did a little one up on them.

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So they have to do another?

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If, they're going to put it up here.

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They have, they have the drugs here.

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they do so this piece of property

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This goes all the way up around, so it's used to hear.

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In this long shade, this belongs to Arteranis.

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This belongs to these people over here.

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Okay.

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So this is just ended here.

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What's this dead zone here?

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This is what is going to attach to this one.

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And this is going to attach to this one.

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Is that makes sense?

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Yes, it does.

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So no, it's just bound to be here.

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Plan to land prepared by Matt Kelly in 2020.

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one. It's going to be donated in there taking this from here. Right. There no one

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won't it? Yeah. It's not created. It's not created. It's not created. It's not created.

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Anything that's hidden above. It's pretty straightforward. Yeah. It's a pretty straightforward.

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Yeah, Robert Shae, okay, does he own both of them?

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Sue, do you have a Sharpie in your office by any chance?

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Oh, I thought somebody's knocked out here.

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So he owns a little bit on both sides of Cali land.

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Oh, in my box.

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Jeff Woodbury.

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Jeff Woodbury.

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Thank you.

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This guy bought 40-some acres.

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And that's what we approved,

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original here in the Nyan Heart.

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Correct.

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Lauren had some in my box.

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I'm sorry.

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I'm forced.

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I don't do this enough to help.

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Sorry.

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We don't even know what it is, they wish one, do we sign, we have to sign for that main one always knowing.

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Also make sure there's a date on this because the registry won't take about a date.

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Okay, did we do that, not do that last time?

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No, no, this is happening in another place.

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That's why I always try to tell everybody.

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So before we sign, I guess we got, does anybody have any concerns?

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Yeah.

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And I will go ahead and make a motion to accept this A&R I think within our guidelines.

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Thank you.

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No, this is a Mylar. This is the one you've got to sign with this.

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Take to the right.

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And that all has to be signed with that type pet.

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let's go ahead and find that Diane.

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There you go.

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Oh, really?

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Yeah.

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Yeah, no problem.

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I try.

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I need it.

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And you were aware of the new fees.

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Yes.

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Already have it checked.

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Oh, okay.

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I don't care if you see it.

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many need to be signed?

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Well, we always sign at least three.

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three. Three? At least three. Yeah. I have them five or two with my measuring. Okay.

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Haven't signed it too? I've not known. No offense.

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I was lonely sitting up here. You've been here long ago.

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Okay. Here. Are you using my

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I thought I saw it somewhere, here you

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go, you can do that with a round, okay, no, it doesn't matter, it doesn't matter, just I can't do it with a round.

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We have to sign this one. We don't have to sign it.

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I'll sign off.

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Okay.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Have a good day.

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You too.

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I'm signing off.

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I have another floor.

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I'm a bachelor.

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One of the ones.

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Tammy, I'm missing one of this one, my dear.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, Laura.

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I'm a bachelor.

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I'm a bachelor.

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I'm a bachelor.

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We will

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have Todd and his company present.

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Do you want to just tell us a little bit about what you're doing?

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Yes.

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Thanks for everyone showing up today.

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I didn't expect it to be a big meeting.

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We didn't either.

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It's just we've got some conceptual drawings for Brody and we've got some really great guys here today

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We have Jeff and Wayne from Bowler engineering and Jack Lynch. He's part of the team

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So I'll pass it off to the brilliant engineers because I don't know

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Thank you

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Good morning. Good morning. How are you? I'm Jeff Fitzgerald

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I'm a professional engineer and certified planner with Bowler, we're a company

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that's based in Virginia but we have big presence in Boston and in South

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borough and I'm out of West Hartford, Connecticut. And it's a pleasure to have my

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my colleague Wayne Violet Landscape Architect and planner with Boehler with me today and to

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be up here in New Ashford to talk about Brody Mountain. Todd and Brody Mountain Development

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Retained us to prepare a master plan for a modern all-season Alpine resort village as part of the redevelopment of Brody.

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You know, I grew up in Connecticut and Brody was something as a young skier was totally on my race.

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We had our Kelly's Irish Alps, we'd come up here and it was either brought to your chimney peak. And Brody was the skier's mountain. And it had a to a 12-year-old in 1979, it was a cool, what a cool place to be. So, and coming from Connecticut, it was a lot quicker to get here than to go to Vermont.

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And in the skiing here at Brody was not like Butternut Basin, it was a much more challenging loan.

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So the master plan that we'll present today is a concept plan, purely conceptual.

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What that means is what is possible, what can be.

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So you're not submitting a formal application today?

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No, no, no.

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This is informative.

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And the purpose of this meeting is really to take the

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temperature of the community.

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We want to do something with the support of this community.

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It's not fun to do development when you're

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And the community opposes you, you know, that's lead that to the industrial developers and that kind of thing.

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So the master plan we're going to provide the conceptual framework for mountain improvements across the entire 500 acre parcel.

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Once you see on the right there is the overall 500 acres and it shows a lot of the original ski trails

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and it shows what you could do with the addition of additional trails and lifts to get to the top.

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So that just shows you the entire acreage that we're talking about here.

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And it includes the development of base area facilities and resort village amenities

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like you would see in any European or American Great Alpine Resort.

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These includes opportunities for skiing and mountain biking, entertainment restaurants,

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hospitality, the development of vacation rentals, and second homes, hotels, wedding and

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Facilities and health benefits of a Nordic-style thermal spa, different from like a

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Miraval or one of these places where you go and pay a lot of money for a massage, but

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this is a very health front thing where you can sauna, you can cold plunge, there's facilities

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for that as part of it.

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So, it'll be a classic mountain resort appropriate for the Berkshires and have a blend of all these activities, adventure, entertainment, wellness and longevity for a year round experience for visitors and locals.

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Brody has been closed since early 2000s and the goal is to redevelop it to be the premiere

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all season mountain resort in New England.

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This master plan expands on the foundation of the existing resort, which dates back in

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the century started I think in the 30s skiing on this hill and at high lights opportunities

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for future recreational use of the ski areas and potential new accommodations in the

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base area.

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Updated lidar topography of the site led

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to the exploration of potential improvements

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improvements to the ski able terrain, and the plan shifts real estate development away from high density apartments towards lower density slope side vacation homes, town homes and condominiums, all offering ski, the potential for ski in and ski out access this master plan details upgrades for the recreational infrastructure, including adventure and wellness tourism as well as plans for hotel accommodations and new

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commercial services to support mountain biking and skiing activities,

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both cross country and downhill at that base village.

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So with that, I'm going to have Wayne Violet come up and talk through the plan on the left,

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which is really the base village using the, and it's what's on the screen here as well if you're seeing that and just talk through what is the series of almost neighborhoods and opportunities as you get into this, into the proposed resort, the conceptual plan for this proposed resort.

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Thanks. Thanks, Wayne. Thanks, everybody. Good morning, Wayne Violet. It was nice that I wasn't introduced as the trouble maker, but it's very possible. That's what I am to be here today. So we've pulled it up on the screen. We have it over on that side of the room. I may move around a little bit because I think it's helpful to point and talk to what we're looking at as Jeff just outlined. Super exciting opportunity for our group to work with Todd and his team on this master plan. We think this area is just

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Absolutely a gem and we're happy to be part of the master plan just to go back a little bit

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We started looking at kind of visiting the site visiting the area last year kind of fell in love with the area and have

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Thank you for

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No, no, no, please I appreciate that. That's great looking out for us

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Let's make sure it's not an emergency message and then we'll continue

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you?

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No, please. You're good? We're good. Okay. All right. I'm not going to try to trip

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anybody, but I'm going to slide over to this side here. So as I was saying, 2025, really

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visited the area quite a bit, spent time looking at the sight and surroundings, really kind

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of fell in love. And we're hoping you see some of that in the master plan because there's

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just a lot in there. And I don't know your format of the meeting, but at some point you guys

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could walk around, take a look at all that information. So I'm actually going to go to this

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side. Otherwise, you're going to see the wrong side of me here. And so to orient ourselves

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entry to our 500 acres, our Brody Mountain Master Plan, off of Route 7, there's the

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Loop Road. There's a little old Route 7. That's exactly right. So it actually acts as a kind

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of a gateway entry into the site. One of the things is we're filtering, looking at the

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area talking with Todd in this team. What do we want to accomplish here? And one of the things that rang through very much throughout the entire process was the idea of creating a destination, a public private type of master plan. So at the very entry, kind of into our overall master plan.

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We have a pedestrian scale resorts no type village at times we call it the Christmas village at times

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We call it the Irish Christmas village in a variety of different things and what that village is intended to be

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Small scale you you arrive you park and then you can walk through the village which would be restaurants which would be

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different services, which would obviously include lodge and amenities for, you know, future or private skiing or other amenities in that regard.

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But it really kind of vibrant village entry experience right off the kind of the main access point.

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And that's what's located here on the left hand side at that entry for our master plan.

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Wait, if you can point to A. Yes, right here.

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Right there.

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Okay.

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As you look towards the entrance to Brody,

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this is a rendering on the screen

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of what the scale of the buildings shown there

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in the scale of pedestrian plaza there

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would feel would look like.

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This is the build, the concept plans of those buildings.

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This is what they couldn't look like

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If you develop in that style of architecture, again, this is known as proposing that that's what it could be based on the footprints that you see there of two of the buildings.

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Is that roughly in the location where the former lodge was?

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That's a great point.

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The former lodge is actually was just to the right of the letter, and if you point the A,

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yeah, just the right in here.

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So great point.

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If anyone knows the site in its condition today, much of that entry experience as it is

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today is cleared and you can fairly get access, that ends probably about right here.

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There's an existing pond that's out there today that would be very evident if you've been

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out there.

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once you get that past this point of the master plan and the plan that we're

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showing you tend to get into the the access road and kind of woodland area but

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every yeah that's right so everywhere to the left is kind of what's clear

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today for the most part and that's where we're visioning that type of

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village and again we're really looking for that kind of that wild factor something

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that we think is going to work well in the area you know picking off of things

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that we've seen locally and we've seen kind of regionally, we think this is really a good feature right here at the end.

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There are two focal points that are identifiable out there now that are still on the planet,

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and that's the two main lefts, those, the summit left and the other one,

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the original summit left, which are the blue lines that you see going up the mountain there,

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and those are proposed in the ideal thing

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to be reconstructed in modern conditions.

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So you can visit us even in the summer,

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get to the top and mountain bike potential.

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You'll see on the plan on the right,

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a restaurant at the original summit net peak

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to the top that takes advantage of the views on up there

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and is able to have a unique experience up there

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for people all year round. And so those two lists are the original locations of those

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at the base are preserved and intended to be rebuilt in those same areas.

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She's at the end of these in grants.

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Sure, but I don't know if you can talk about dots.

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Yeah, dots, dots is the first one, then the,

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the one that was put on.

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And that one is, these can be fairly different things.

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So while your policy would be down the little part,

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and you know, housing, moving to the.

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All in group A, all in the A area.

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Yeah, we're going to definitely cover that.

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So primarily in the A area in that village,

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is really intended to be, there could be housing above active first floor, which would be restaurants and things of that nature.

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But a lot of the residential, the vacation homes and things that will walk through are as you move out of that base area,

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as you move out of that large area to the right hand side of this master plan.

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I didn't see how many were

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given to that.

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I kind of interrupted Wayne on the progression through because he's going to walk you through

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all of the different housing types and hospitality types because there's hotel space there as well

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So yes, we will cover the number of units, and that's happening, but it please keep the questions coming.

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As someone who sat through, this will be the third one of these developments I've seen here.

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And it's very similar to the very first one that I proposed.

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Conceptually, I think it's a good idea, but are you aware of?

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There's a 15-foot elevation, which you can't develop above, and also there should be approximately 90 acres in there with a permanent, excuse me, a 50-year east conservation

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lean on it. Could you point those two points out? Could you show us where 1500 feet is, and roughly where that property is that's currently being conserved?

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If I haven't listed here, the 1,500 elevation mark, I know I brought my glasses for a reason.

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Maybe I'll be on the overall.

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I think it's actually listed here as well.

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So we have the 1,500 and again I'm just based on my eyes here.

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We have it running right through this area, that 1,500 and then we have that 1,500 elevation

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wrapping and it's basically like this area would be 1,500 and lower. So

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everything above this area and there's a little bit here that would be above

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that 1,500 elevation that you were just referencing. So this area plus or

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minus I might be missing a little bit but this area is

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Okay.

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And then the second question, I don't know if we've, uh, I'm not, if we're, I've never seen anything. The conservation. Yeah.

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We're supposed to have been filed on, uh, the second application with snowy owl, turned the registry of deans. I believe it is. I don't know that for sure. I think that's if they, I don't think if I remember correctly.

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I don't think that was one of the conditions, that was one of the agreements that was

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to be done.

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If it wasn't pertaining to if the development would be, if it went ahead, it would be put

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on the property.

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But if it is, we'd love to take a look at it.

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Laura is on the Conservation Committee and she's saying it's a 99-year, 99-year lease.

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It's on the registry of deeds, yep, okay.

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Normally, they were 99 years. I'm not disputing you, but just particularly remember it was a sticking point

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And we agreed to a 50 if I remember that was the planning

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But usually the state requires a

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Something for you to look into

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We received a bunch of documents and I have not seen that now

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access, and if it can be adjusted, the goal is to, when we plan a project like this,

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you try and envision, as much as you get, you try and vision the best project that works

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the best for here. That's sustainable. That means when I say sustainable, I don't naturally,

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you mean that terms are sustainable in two sizes of it. It's got to be environmentally sound

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and all that and that it's not going to impact the community and the environment. But it also has

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to be sustainable in that it's going to last forever. It's going to be a community. It's going to

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be a village not that has a boom in a bus and go back to it, but that people want to own

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invest and maintain and live in and support if you're from the outside and that's what sustainable

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means to me. So the components of that are it's got to it's got to be beautiful, it's got to be

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impactful. It's got to have a density of experiences and places there so that it

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so that it does create a place. You can't just put one building there and say

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this is going to be an awesome thing because it'll be lost in the realm of

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world. So for sustainability, that's what the master plan is meant to show us a

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a project in a place that will sustain for hundreds of years.

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And so that's what we'd like to throw out here.

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I spent about a year with Horobot and Berkshire

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and all the conservation groups don't know this property

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and David Rothschild passed away when he got made, of course.

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He really did with this mountain and the mountain ridge

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the fact of his hand, he was great.

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So we're very conscious of conservation.

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And by the way, I love the most important migration trail

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in New England, all kinds of fun stuff.

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So this isn't just a skevers work.

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I know it was a skevers over talking a lot about skevers.

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It seems like a good skevers, isn't it?

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This is going to be multifaceted.

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I'll main anchor at the base over there

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if you can see it from here.

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is a European spa concept, which is huge in Europe.

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And it's just starting to get traction here in the States.

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And it's a hot cold water under the concept.

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Those places do very well.

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There's an amphitheater for concerts, of course, restaurants,

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bars, volume room.

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We're thinking of Irish Christmas,

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home art, a village field, ice skating, vacation rooms,

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weddings, hotel, of course.

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And that's where we're going with it.

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But there's also mountain biking, which is huge,

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and also huge for the local economy.

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Vienna has a earth shake, a rich run on the other side of the mountain.

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It's all about running lose dollars.

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Here, spend the dollars here.

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You have 16 million tourists going to Vermont every year.

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There's only four ways of getting to Vermont,

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one of those roads, because right by our mountain.

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And those people are spending the money in Vermont.

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Why do I drive the extra three, four out?

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You can place right here.

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So that's kind of the idea.

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get in the stock here, it's not just for streaming,

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it's multi-season things, it's a facility, it's an event.

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It's disinvolved, the building is really working.

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So I just talked through the little neighborhoods

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in the plan and up to the problem data.

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Yeah, so that's great.

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So we started with A, which was that village.

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And again, what we're seeing here,

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this is an image where it is now,

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some of the next steps talk about open space phasing.

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This is the overall everything shown here as far as a phasing, you know, that'll come later

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But but A is that village we've been talking about that great village B is that wellness spot that you know really

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Great area for that. We've dedicated probably three or four acres worth of not only building but outdoor amenities for that particular use

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They really love it, you know that experience is outdoor pools

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and

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and medications, bases, and the ability to go from hot to cold very quickly and have a lot of acreage there to climb up the base of the mountain.

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Yeah. C&D, we have surface level parking. We've got an adequate amount of service our daily needs.

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Anytime we're at a, you know, max capacity, we've got overflow parking shown as part of this plan.

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E and F were those two existing ski lifts that would be part of this kind of base area revitalization.

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G, this area, we start to get into, if once we've built this anchor and the framework

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of this great village, the vibrant village here at the base, G is a neighborhood of town

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home residential units and from a quantity standpoint, per the plan right now, again, it's

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just approximately, we're showing about 60 town home units in this particular cluster,

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which is just above an elevation that, you know, mixed village at the base.

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Then as we move up, we have another surface parking area that kind of caps the village

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that's letter H. Then we're moving out of that, that base area that people know of is kind

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of the cleared area where the lodges and the lifts are.

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And we get into this side of the development right side or north side of the area.

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And one thing that we wanted to look for that area is how can we include a mix of residential

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types of vacation homes, rentals, ownership options as we move here.

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So with I, the first kind of area or neighborhood that we're coming through, and we're trying

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to utilize a lot of the existing access drives are out there now, but little modifications

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to it.

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For I, we've got multi-unit buildings, think condo,

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think vacation rental, there's one that exists out there today

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as part of the snowy owl development,

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similar but a little bit more modern.

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So for those kind of multi-unit buildings,

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right now we're envisioning those 12 unit buildings.

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We have about 80 of those units in total.

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That would represent this area just north of the base village.

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And then as we get to our next kind of largest neighborhood area here, very much vacation rentals.

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One of the things that we've looked at and you'll see a little bit described on the plans is these are really ski and ski out type vacation rentals.

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They could be anywhere from singles to duplexes, which would be two units all the way up to four units combined depending on how the framework ends up.

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but we have a roadway network that we think works with the grades allows for ski

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and ski out capacity and really kind of frames this end and kind of really works

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with the topography on that side of the site. For those particular vacation homes

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again this is a master plan as where we stand today we're showing approximately

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110 of those types of units but again those numbers are going to be you know

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refined as the as the plan moves forward but that's what's shown here. One thing I

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will say is this is one of two new ski lifts that we're showing as part of

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this master plan. We've got the two existing at the base which we know of. This

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is a new one here to really help capture that ski and ski outability for the

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large number of units that we have on this side of the site. And then if your

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their eyes have been wondering that I'm going to get to it. What is this up here? That's

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interesting. So if you spent some time there and if you've explored whether you're able

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to or not, there's an access drive that takes you up to this north end of the project site

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and then you kind of arrive at an existing VISTA that according to Todd, I could see, you

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know, three countries away or something like that. But you could see quite a ways and it's

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fantastic this so part of this master plan we're showing a mountain top kind of

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resort hotel type of use at this area so we're showing a building here for

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for all sake of the purposes this represents about a hundred hundred room

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hotel resort type space with parking that would service it we've got a

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How did it to be a, you know, a wedding banquet, the show, really picture

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taking

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opportunities? So that would not be permanent. People could not come and stay

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there. It wouldn't be permanent houses. Yeah. And we do have, we have two

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access ways. One that kind of cycles you through the vacation on community. But

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So we have a dedicated access way that would take you primarily up to the hotel mountain

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top resort area over on that right-hand side.

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And then just quickly over here, because we kind of jumped to the fun color stuff and

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there's plenty of colors here, but this is as Jeff had mentioned, this is the overall map

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of the site 510 or 12 acres in this area.

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where we were just focusing on is the bottom of page,

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which is actually the east side of the site.

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As you can see, the majority of the site at this point

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in the master plan remains untouched.

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A lot of these white dash lines represent ski slopes

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that are existing today or potentially future ones

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that we might want to consider.

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We have one other element located kind of near the top

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of the elevation near the top of the ski lifts,

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which is a potential for a restaurant, kind of an observation area located just

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adjacent to where one of the ski lifts exits near the top. We think that would

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be a fantastic also addition to this master plan, and that shows here. One

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of the things I'll mention is we do have a the second new ski lift that's

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located on the southwestern corner on this particular map. This ski lift is a, you

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term Jeff can help me with, but, uh,

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it's a creation of a new bowl basically on that side.

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There was a, there was an opportunity there looking at the

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grain that you could add.

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If, if desired, you could add a new bowl with a,

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a left that shirt, that area,

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open up some previously unskiable.

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Is all this in the town in Washington?

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Is it part of that and Lane's girl or am I mistaken?

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The, I believe the 500 acres on the,

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Everything is in the town in Western

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Because I'm a little familiar with the mountain top

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It just seems though that ball was over on the other side

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No, it's a little piece a little carve-out on that

456
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And that's only because I mentioned that Kelly's used the park the buses there in the winter

457
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:58,960
They made an ice bridge over the over the stream

458
00:43:04,420 --> 00:43:06,080
but that's not things for all, that's what we're doing.

459
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:06,340
No.

460
00:43:06,700 --> 00:43:09,540
It's relatively small, it's probably very interesting.

461
00:43:12,150 --> 00:43:14,790
And one thing just to revisit getting back to the question.

462
00:43:15,070 --> 00:43:17,850
So based on the master plan, as it sits at the moment,

463
00:43:18,030 --> 00:43:19,690
as far as units that include hotels,

464
00:43:20,210 --> 00:43:22,530
or approximately over 400 units,

465
00:43:23,270 --> 00:43:24,990
residential and or hotel rooms

466
00:43:24,990 --> 00:43:27,370
that we're showing as part of this current master plan.

467
00:43:28,010 --> 00:43:31,430
And then these numbers again are subject to change,

468
00:43:31,490 --> 00:43:32,730
and they're just where we are right now.

469
00:43:33,110 --> 00:43:36,070
But it's about 100,000 square feet of kind of a commercial

470
00:43:36,070 --> 00:43:42,670
restaurant, kind of, you know, village-y space, kind of at the bottom. Plus or minus those

471
00:43:42,670 --> 00:43:46,210
numbers, but that's what we're showing here, as we're the master plan stands at moment.

472
00:43:47,610 --> 00:43:52,910
Question, yeah. How close is the development with the hotel part in the circular

473
00:43:52,910 --> 00:43:58,930
scheme here to your units to the top of the ridge of the mountain? Yeah, were you asking

474
00:43:58,930 --> 00:44:02,950
how close this is to the top of the ridge? To the ridge that runs,

475
00:44:05,190 --> 00:44:05,650
you know,

476
00:44:05,650 --> 00:44:09,830
I'm looking how close you are to the development is to a butter itself.

477
00:44:10,930 --> 00:44:11,250
Okay.

478
00:44:11,990 --> 00:44:13,050
And it's a bit visual.

479
00:44:13,950 --> 00:44:14,190
Yeah.

480
00:44:14,770 --> 00:44:32,920
Mark, I'm not aware of any of the butter is up there that it's just before, to the north of the site, which is this area, this is all, this is all fully wooded.

481
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:34,920
This is the property.

482
00:44:35,900 --> 00:44:39,560
Neil said that the top is where the turbine's are here.

483
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:41,620
Right, but I don't have a burden here.

484
00:44:41,620 --> 00:44:41,860
Yeah.

485
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:45,500
This is the gneelsins between us.

486
00:44:45,820 --> 00:44:47,200
Neil says between us.

487
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:51,780
Yeah, to the to the ridge, we can certainly provide that information.

488
00:44:51,780 --> 00:44:54,760
But just to our property line, which again, just imaginary line,

489
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:57,520
we're pretty close to where we're trying to put that.

490
00:44:57,860 --> 00:44:59,820
So that's anywhere from 50 to 100 feet.

491
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:15,020
From the property line, but that's not necessarily the rich, which is your question. Yeah, I'm just wondering, you're just going to be a homeless and make new sludge. The maintenance law is really weird. Yeah, so that is actually located here in this corner here.

492
00:45:15,020 --> 00:45:18,560
That's where the abutters are, we're talking about, right?

493
00:45:19,140 --> 00:45:20,200
Well, there's abutters everywhere.

494
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,440
I mean, each hill goes up and you'll let that.

495
00:45:22,900 --> 00:45:23,600
Yeah, that's good.

496
00:45:23,700 --> 00:45:24,880
Yeah, that's good.

497
00:45:24,980 --> 00:45:25,040
That's right.

498
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:27,300
You know what I'm saying.

499
00:45:28,060 --> 00:45:29,500
Yeah, I'm just...

500
00:45:29,500 --> 00:45:29,960
Yeah, I know.

501
00:45:30,020 --> 00:45:30,340
That's good.

502
00:45:30,460 --> 00:45:34,520
I'd love to be a concern for me if I was an abutter.

503
00:45:34,740 --> 00:45:35,740
Yeah, yeah.

504
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,980
I have a lot of space, so maybe...

505
00:45:38,980 --> 00:45:39,640
Yeah, good point.

506
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:40,760
Yeah, where this is located?

507
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:44,180
It's really close to the property corner itself.

508
00:45:44,180 --> 00:45:46,800
Yeah, which would be in the butter.

509
00:45:49,470 --> 00:45:55,650
Again, in details of sub-facts and e-frames and things like that, can all be discussed

510
00:45:56,170 --> 00:45:58,970
if an actual application would get prepared.

511
00:46:01,030 --> 00:46:02,950
Good to know that that would be better.

512
00:46:03,190 --> 00:46:05,170
Well, it's just not taking my usual interest.

513
00:46:05,970 --> 00:46:15,030
The idea is to have any development for both buildings as much view of the

514
00:46:15,990 --> 00:46:22,010
from their approach up there, it's a maximum, so we have to wait, okay, so it isn't too

515
00:46:22,010 --> 00:46:24,910
big of a role for the aim of speaking to people to get that.

516
00:46:25,610 --> 00:46:27,170
Do you have to give a soloist plan?

517
00:46:27,750 --> 00:46:34,470
I don't have the soloist plan, but I don't have to give a soloist plan, it's pretty much the same.

518
00:46:34,650 --> 00:46:37,830
It's the same area of development pretty much.

519
00:46:53,180 --> 00:47:04,200
And Wayne's got here now kind of a blow-up of the village, the spa, the townhomes and

520
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:16,200
the base area for the two left and some precedent images of what those faces could look like.

521
00:47:18,060 --> 00:47:23,420
Yeah, and so we've walked through the master plan. This is just a little bit more eye candy and a little bit more.

522
00:47:23,540 --> 00:47:26,540
Hey, what does it look like? What does it feel like how we're envisioning it?

523
00:47:26,700 --> 00:47:33,040
So this is a fraction of the kind of precedent and imagery that we've been kind of capturing along the way.

524
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:36,920
but someone had mentioned I mean like you know the heart of this bill it feels like

525
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:41,320
it wants to have a ice ring you know features green spaces all those kinds of

526
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:44,500
things and that's kind of what we're envisioning to be here you would park and

527
00:47:44,500 --> 00:47:49,000
arrive you would cycle through this particular area whether you're going for you

528
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:53,840
know summertime activities whether it's winter activities just a really great

529
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:57,220
place to put Brody back on the map and so again we've walked through a lot of

530
00:47:57,220 --> 00:48:01,340
these components but just gives you a few more pictures to look along the way

531
00:48:04,380 --> 00:48:11,740
Yeah, yeah, that's right and one of the things I hit it on in an Irish thing that we caught on that

532
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:21,880
Right away, and what's the name of that that's what's the name of that yeah, so it was just convenient that it was just convenient

533
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:28,340
That I was in Ireland that in 2025 and we were talking about all this. So this is the double and our

534
00:48:28,340 --> 00:48:38,200
Temple Bar, Temple Bar, which we, we somewhat scaled based on this building number two, which

535
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:44,780
is located here at the center of the area, but again, vibrant, active, music, you know.

536
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:51,480
The reason we loved Temple Bar is that in, in summer you go there and it's great, there's

537
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:52,580
a lot of music on it.

538
00:48:52,580 --> 00:48:57,360
they're trying to go crazy making the Christmas decorations on the temple bar and double.

539
00:48:57,800 --> 00:48:58,740
And it's gorgeous.

540
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:02,280
And I'm like, OK, we want this to be an amazing Christmas, though.

541
00:49:02,700 --> 00:49:06,540
But we also want it to be a place that sustains itself through the summer

542
00:49:06,540 --> 00:49:08,020
for throughout its activity.

543
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:09,960
So it has a lot of room with your eyes.

544
00:49:10,940 --> 00:49:14,900
And music, one of the other things in time talked about an amphitheater.

545
00:49:15,020 --> 00:49:18,040
We talked about it because it was a small stage and a large stage of opportunity

546
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:28,800
each in that plaza, given what happens in the next single one, the amount of great musicians

547
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:34,620
that come up there and learn college students and stuff. You have the ability to program

548
00:49:35,250 --> 00:49:43,460
life music in a place like this all through the summer and through the winter.

549
00:49:45,540 --> 00:49:46,300
That's

550
00:49:46,300 --> 00:49:53,360
of the very near and near my heart and we try and accommodate that in the initial plan.

551
00:49:53,660 --> 00:50:01,360
How can you activate these spaces with use and that's what separates us and with the

552
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:08,680
natural environment, how you activate these spaces and so that's what we try to achieve

553
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:09,940
in this plan.

554
00:50:12,740 --> 00:50:17,300
So that's our walk-through. We're excited to be part of it with Todd and his

555
00:50:17,300 --> 00:50:22,180
kind of ventures and Todd and the team, his ventures here. But opening up to

556
00:50:22,180 --> 00:50:25,840
questions, I know you guys have had some along the way, but happy to address

557
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:30,600
any of those. I have a couple if you don't mind. Yeah. What are your height for

558
00:50:31,240 --> 00:50:34,580
buildings? We are concerned about our entire department. We don't have

559
00:50:34,580 --> 00:50:38,980
ladders. We don't have any of that kind of stuff for volunteer. Towns around us are

560
00:50:38,980 --> 00:50:45,920
all volunteer. Right. A lot of money in there could go up. So what is what height of your buildings

561
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:51,520
and do you have anything that we could help the town with that? I know you have ponds, fire ponds

562
00:50:51,520 --> 00:51:00,360
and stuff up there. Sure. We haven't designed any buildings yet. So you know the the imagery shows

563
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:07,740
three story which might be appropriate for here which is you know a typical house

564
00:51:08,500 --> 00:51:15,740
a good colonial house that is two-and-a-half story, right, but sometimes I find that so it's

565
00:51:15,740 --> 00:51:24,500
not a, that's fine. If we had more robust infrastructure, maybe you'd go to four stories in

566
00:51:24,500 --> 00:51:32,020
the village, but as the max, but I think three-story is the max that we propose right now in that village

567
00:51:32,020 --> 00:51:36,540
area, and then as you go into the town homes, they'd be, you know, two-and-a-half story, like a typical,

568
00:51:36,540 --> 00:51:41,660
typical colonial home. I think William's town is the only one in my correct

569
00:51:41,660 --> 00:51:48,220
with a ladder truck. And they're... I don't know, I think they have a... I think they must

570
00:51:48,220 --> 00:51:52,140
have to... In those would be... Jiminy, you know, commercial buildings in the

571
00:51:52,140 --> 00:51:57,880
building would have to have spring flows and fire pumps. Todd, do you know if

572
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:11,320
I just wondered because I'm, you know, three and four, I mean, even some of the houses in here are trucks would not be able to.

573
00:52:11,980 --> 00:52:20,560
The commercial spaces would be fully sprinkled with, you know, and you'd have a water system that would be pressurized in order if we need fire pumps.

574
00:52:20,780 --> 00:52:23,440
That's just a concern with height and stuff.

575
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:28,280
of course. But we're not, again, we, we haven't started. I understand, but this is an

576
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:34,860
informational thing. You're looking for input, correct? Yeah. Yeah. I don't know anything

577
00:52:34,860 --> 00:52:41,380
about so far. We're doing three-story townhands. Three-story walk-ups. There's three-story structure

578
00:52:41,380 --> 00:52:46,920
on the property already, so we'll assume that that would be. Is that building going to

579
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:53,220
be removed? Actually, yeah. It's not occupied or anything at this point. No. There's

580
00:52:59,540 --> 00:53:05,560
Yeah, so that existing three-story walk-up is a prox here.

581
00:53:06,060 --> 00:53:06,800
Not really.

582
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:11,420
It's approximately, I think it's here actually, I'm bouncing my finger around, but it's

583
00:53:11,420 --> 00:53:16,200
essentially here and exists today in its current state.

584
00:53:16,460 --> 00:53:17,520
Yes, and its current state.

585
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:21,280
No, that's great.

586
00:53:21,500 --> 00:53:21,740
This is awesome.

587
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:29,940
How are you going to control, we have no police department, state police, come in, so it

588
00:53:29,940 --> 00:53:34,540
would kind of be your responsibility for noise control, traffic control, all that.

589
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:38,380
How are you thinking about doing that in this conceptual idea?

590
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:39,120
Sure.

591
00:53:39,340 --> 00:53:39,680
Sure.

592
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:40,280
Thank God.

593
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:47,220
Yeah, for noise control, I mean that would have to be coordinated with the town and

594
00:53:47,220 --> 00:53:52,180
agree upon with the sound. There's a lot of ways to restrict time. At this point you're not

595
00:53:52,180 --> 00:54:00,120
thinking that you have security or something like that. If you have the great decommertial

596
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:06,720
village there, they'll need to be private security. As far as noise control in the zone by

597
00:54:06,720 --> 00:54:13,940
law, there's some control over that. They're limited to light. Some hours of operation that

598
00:54:13,940 --> 00:54:20,280
could be. And signs. And I'm sure decibel control at the property line. And that's where you

599
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:26,840
kind of create a village within the loudest part is in the center of it. And that's where you,

600
00:54:27,220 --> 00:54:31,560
you know. You've got an expel on there that handles the business with the solitude that management

601
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:43,920
has had for three years, three months, ten acts a day. Yeah, we're at small town. We don't want

602
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:46,820
do you think of windmills at all?

603
00:54:47,060 --> 00:54:47,740
I'm a big farmer.

604
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:49,180
I want a cable to those windmills.

605
00:54:49,500 --> 00:54:50,600
I'll do some batteries on the ground.

606
00:54:52,740 --> 00:54:57,300
For, I just wondered if you were going in that direction

607
00:54:57,300 --> 00:54:58,040
to kill our birds.

608
00:54:58,860 --> 00:55:02,560
No, no, we're, honestly, I'm not a big fan of those

609
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:02,940
turbines.

610
00:55:03,300 --> 00:55:04,620
I just found that they drove up there.

611
00:55:07,340 --> 00:55:08,400
I know that.

612
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:10,620
I just didn't know if you were thinking of putting more.

613
00:55:10,860 --> 00:55:11,760
No, no, no, no.

614
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:18,480
functional. They all are functional at different times. Yeah, they never hardly work together.

615
00:55:19,580 --> 00:55:24,920
Can we want this to be something? My experience on the moment is that you don't

616
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:30,640
experience the turbines when you're on the mountain. Thank God and we want to sort of

617
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:38,600
keep it that way. Yeah, and if people work here, you can see them on this map with the

618
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:44,120
the access or other located here, which is essentially kind of top of slope in this particular area, so.

619
00:55:44,500 --> 00:55:48,720
How do you mean top side, right, and meant to save money, right?

620
00:55:50,340 --> 00:55:58,420
You haven't addressed where your maintenance facilities and so forth are going to be on that property in conjunction, because that's a no,

621
00:55:58,740 --> 00:56:01,440
well, potential issue with the butters.

622
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:07,220
And the other two issues I'm a little concerned with, you haven't addressed water or sewage.

623
00:56:07,220 --> 00:56:10,620
There was a water facility at the top of the mountain.

624
00:56:10,820 --> 00:56:12,120
I don't know if it was ever completed.

625
00:56:13,180 --> 00:56:16,600
And I believe back when Silverleaf,

626
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:19,100
they were talking a sewage treatment plant.

627
00:56:19,300 --> 00:56:19,420
Yes.

628
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:21,720
And is that still on the board?

629
00:56:22,100 --> 00:56:22,240
Yes.

630
00:56:22,620 --> 00:56:24,480
They have a, they have a sewable,

631
00:56:24,500 --> 00:56:26,240
they've had a approval for, I think,

632
00:56:26,260 --> 00:56:30,140
85,000 gallons a day for the DEP,

633
00:56:30,140 --> 00:56:33,300
mass DEP approved treatment facility

634
00:56:33,300 --> 00:56:44,140
that is in that permanent place now, depending upon phasing, and what we show here is we

635
00:56:44,140 --> 00:56:50,460
generate more than 85,000 gallons a day, and in order to build that, we need to have

636
00:56:50,460 --> 00:56:54,980
an approved system by the D.P. that has all that.

637
00:56:55,260 --> 00:56:55,820
So that's-

638
00:56:55,820 --> 00:56:57,820
And that was all through the state channels, five.

639
00:56:57,820 --> 00:57:04,900
And I believe there was, they weren't, they, it was to be phased in with the silver

640
00:57:04,900 --> 00:57:09,680
leaf. So there was an existing system that they put in for that current building.

641
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:14,800
That was only, I can't remember exactly for a certain amount, but before they were to

642
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:20,580
progress any further, they had to go with a, and same with the water.

643
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:24,700
The existing system is, the existing septic system that's always certain, is underneath

644
00:57:24,700 --> 00:57:30,040
that parking lot. The old, the old Brody. Yes. And I think that that's what

645
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:38,900
smelly is that silver leaf was. Once they went over capacity, the free building and the water facility,

646
00:57:38,900 --> 00:57:43,260
they started and I think they might have put a tank up there. Well, they've got a grinder tank

647
00:57:43,820 --> 00:57:50,040
behind that toilet. That's what you refer to. No, no, no water. And that was above the 1,500 foot.

648
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:59,360
And those are some of the things that are allowed in the overlay district above that 1,500 foot marker.

649
00:57:59,960 --> 00:58:03,660
Now, that hotel you're talking about is above that.

650
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:10,240
So it would currently under the purge, I don't believe that would be allowed.

651
00:58:10,420 --> 00:58:18,180
And there's also a piece of property in there that has some environmental issues that I don't know if they're ever remediated.

652
00:58:18,180 --> 00:58:19,960
Is that in that area?

653
00:58:22,180 --> 00:58:22,700
Yes.

654
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:23,140
Yes.

655
00:58:23,300 --> 00:58:24,880
We've dealt with the D.D. on that.

656
00:58:25,020 --> 00:58:26,120
Everything is in compliance.

657
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:31,000
We also do have the comment that silver we had for the waste water,

658
00:58:31,380 --> 00:58:32,340
the water proof for that.

659
00:58:32,820 --> 00:58:34,360
And we have that special time.

660
00:58:35,260 --> 00:58:35,780
Right.

661
00:58:35,980 --> 00:58:40,060
But I think they would all have to be resummitted under this new proposal.

662
00:58:40,620 --> 00:58:41,920
We've already discussed everything.

663
00:58:42,140 --> 00:58:43,360
What's done to everything is up to date.

664
00:58:49,100 --> 00:58:55,710
How do you consider a snow making ability?

665
00:59:05,830 --> 00:59:11,190
I thought one of the deed restrictions when there's a 30-year

666
00:59:11,190 --> 00:59:13,590
jurisdiction on the downhill public street.

667
00:59:17,650 --> 00:59:22,510
So that would be strictly private than the humanities as far as the scheme.

668
00:59:22,510 --> 00:59:26,470
I hope that by the time this is built, I mean that 30 years will be nearly up.

669
00:59:27,410 --> 00:59:28,810
We're not out there yet.

670
00:59:29,450 --> 00:59:30,410
We'll be close.

671
00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:36,000
That's what we're thinking.

672
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:47,920
It's too early to say.

673
00:59:48,620 --> 00:59:49,880
I don't think it's about it.

674
00:59:51,260 --> 00:59:56,340
I know as a member sitting on this board going through two of these previously.

675
00:59:57,080 --> 00:59:59,040
The second one, I believe.

676
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:29,100
This board didn't do its deal diligence. We didn't require the amenities that our resort district requires us to do, whereas this appears to have those, which is, I think, it is going in the right direction. And I think, but and you also, but one of the key things you haven't addressed is, you haven't addressed traffic to the town. You haven't addressed taxes. What is this going to generate? And, you know,

677
01:00:29,100 --> 01:00:33,240
So I know you always oversell it, always oversell it.

678
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:38,080
And then you always come back afterwards and you want a little either an abatement or

679
01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:44,020
it didn't work this way, you know, I think the town deserves to know those things.

680
01:00:46,220 --> 01:00:46,740
We're

681
01:00:48,980 --> 01:01:00,440
not saying this is what it will be, we tried to show you the grand vision, maybe it doesn't have to get skilled back, maybe you don't have enough water out capacity, and that's really what they take everything, because we can't have it against them.

682
01:01:00,860 --> 01:01:13,080
Another concern is the number for me as a town payer is the number of permanent structures and possible generation of school children, which really taxists.

683
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:22,060
Yeah, you had that conversation with the Selecman one day, so nothing will ever be

684
01:01:22,060 --> 01:01:26,880
deeded out when you say second homes somebody comes in here and spends 1.5 million

685
01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:31,360
builds a home. They're not going to own the property title to that. You are. Is that correct?

686
01:01:33,500 --> 01:01:38,520
That couldn't be converted into housing. The general power done.

687
01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:46,320
And then similarly at Jiminy, that whole Bentley Brook project that they did, yes, but

688
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:48,700
I mean, they did it out that piece of property.

689
01:01:49,580 --> 01:01:51,580
And then now that company is going bankrupt.

690
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:57,500
I mean, I think the town would want some assurance that something like that would not happen

691
01:01:57,500 --> 01:01:57,780
here.

692
01:02:00,300 --> 01:02:00,780
No.

693
01:02:03,410 --> 01:02:04,670
But some power.

694
01:02:07,350 --> 01:02:08,830
Well, I mean, you've got to bring in.

695
01:02:10,910 --> 01:02:11,390
Yes.

696
01:02:12,270 --> 01:02:12,750
Yeah.

697
01:02:12,750 --> 01:02:18,510
Yeah. Yeah. But what we understand, when them every 15 to 20 years,

698
01:02:18,590 --> 01:02:23,610
recycle a bunch of their locations and the ones that they don't want to

699
01:02:23,610 --> 01:02:27,690
operate, they just get rid of it. And that one is on their list.

700
01:02:28,450 --> 01:02:30,730
That's what we understand after looking over.

701
01:02:31,950 --> 01:02:36,770
So again, we'll plug up more. But that's an answer to this.

702
01:02:36,770 --> 01:02:39,370
The timing of it is online. Yeah.

703
01:02:39,370 --> 01:02:49,310
We're also talking about having some really good habits on this project that will drive everything we're talking about.

704
01:02:49,390 --> 01:02:55,110
This is going to be a destination for people to come to and enjoy being in that room, enjoy the brochures,

705
01:02:55,410 --> 01:02:58,850
or the amenities that are around us, the history, the arts and the culture.

706
01:03:00,470 --> 01:03:06,240
And of course, as far as spending them on their own property,

707
01:03:13,580 --> 01:03:14,000
it's not an area.

708
01:03:15,660 --> 01:03:17,860
Did you mention second homes?

709
01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:28,220
Well no, vacation homes. Second homes are people that they may spend the summer out here and summer in Cuba.

710
01:03:28,500 --> 01:03:31,920
There's a winter in Cuba where we have these homes and second homes.

711
01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:35,380
They will home the homes as a second home.

712
01:03:36,140 --> 01:03:37,160
Oh, they're coming.

713
01:03:40,140 --> 01:03:43,880
It's going to be marketed as a vacation investment.

714
01:03:44,420 --> 01:03:47,060
I've got the ski areas throughout the Northeast.

715
01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:50,080
It's the good ones, successful ones.

716
01:03:51,060 --> 01:03:52,360
I've got vacation homes.

717
01:03:53,260 --> 01:03:55,240
They don't own land.

718
01:03:55,460 --> 01:03:56,780
It's like a condom in Maine.

719
01:03:56,980 --> 01:03:58,660
But it can be a single family home.

720
01:03:58,860 --> 01:04:00,000
It can be a...

721
01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:00,680
You don't have rights.

722
01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:01,540
I use it.

723
01:04:03,020 --> 01:04:05,160
Who's a general second home?

724
01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:10,980
I can't see if the other questions.

725
01:04:12,100 --> 01:04:12,500
I

726
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:21,100
mean, even over at Fairbanks property, I think you had before five people that were

727
01:04:21,100 --> 01:04:24,480
turned out live on site, and the May of had children over the years.

728
01:04:25,540 --> 01:04:30,540
So if you weigh at what the benefit of the ever not the benefit through the town is

729
01:04:30,540 --> 01:04:32,580
versus a couple of kids at tax and school systems.

730
01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:35,600
So,

731
01:04:39,050 --> 01:04:40,210
any other questions?

732
01:04:40,650 --> 01:04:41,050
Um,

733
01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:47,540
can you build something?

734
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:49,140
Do you have all of the ones obvious?

735
01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:49,960
Like so.

736
01:04:50,540 --> 01:04:50,680
Yeah.

737
01:04:51,780 --> 01:04:51,820
I know.

738
01:04:53,560 --> 01:04:54,580
What's going on yourself?

739
01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:55,140
It's not going to happen.

740
01:04:55,140 --> 01:04:56,500
Or come to finish this.

741
01:04:57,540 --> 01:04:58,260
What's going on, or sit down.

742
01:04:58,520 --> 01:05:00,180
Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.

743
01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:01,120
Yeah.

744
01:05:01,300 --> 01:05:02,220
You know what that means.

745
01:05:02,540 --> 01:05:08,420
It makes sense logistically, as far as dealing with this type of construction is hard to do a piece

746
01:05:08,420 --> 01:05:15,940
and that really beats it. And as far as summit, I mean, so a house without a doubt, so you really need it.

747
01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:17,720
It's really good for me to be able to do it.

748
01:05:18,020 --> 01:05:20,660
And you know the utility is my christ Russia.

749
01:05:21,340 --> 01:05:21,780
I don't know why.

750
01:05:22,300 --> 01:05:25,940
It's a sustainable threshold to have creative plays.

751
01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:29,040
So you do want to make sure you can find it.

752
01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:33,240
You can pay for or build something that creates that place.

753
01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:36,840
to say, again, don't you think you can't just talk to someone else in the group?

754
01:05:37,420 --> 01:05:39,060
I don't think I can do this on.

755
01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:46,280
Do you have a name for this?

756
01:05:47,100 --> 01:05:47,540
Worked out?

757
01:05:47,820 --> 01:05:48,200
Already.

758
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:51,320
You've got 100 years worth of marketing, how do we do that?

759
01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:52,300
We're going to keep the room.

760
01:05:52,820 --> 01:05:54,040
I like voting out in a second.

761
01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:54,880
It's something that's boring.

762
01:05:55,120 --> 01:05:55,480
It's quite boring.

763
01:05:56,160 --> 01:05:56,280
I don't know.

764
01:05:56,680 --> 01:05:57,660
I don't know.

765
01:05:57,660 --> 01:05:58,020
I think I'd go.

766
01:05:58,020 --> 01:05:58,260
Nice.

767
01:05:58,680 --> 01:06:02,120
And when you will take down the snowy, snowy, I'm sorry.

768
01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:04,700
I have to talk to the adults about that.

769
01:06:05,300 --> 01:06:08,240
and it was not a proper?

770
01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:10,240
No, not a proper.

771
01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:10,720
I see.

772
01:06:11,560 --> 01:06:12,680
It's not a proper meeting.

773
01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:16,320
It's a state where I mean, you use a nice old, new, seven

774
01:06:16,320 --> 01:06:18,160
when they replaced the bridge.

775
01:06:19,140 --> 01:06:21,860
I mean, you know that came old and seven first, didn't?

776
01:06:21,860 --> 01:06:22,860
They're good there, but I know that.

777
01:06:23,460 --> 01:06:24,900
You need a customer to go up tonight.

778
01:06:27,220 --> 01:06:29,120
I think you should.

779
01:06:29,720 --> 01:06:31,140
Steve, you had another question.

780
01:06:31,140 --> 01:06:37,200
And any idea when you're going to start submitting some concrete

781
01:06:37,200 --> 01:06:40,260
proposals or apply for your master plan?

782
01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:42,980
Do you have a time frame?

783
01:06:43,820 --> 01:06:46,240
I think we are in this, like I mentioned, very

784
01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:52,380
in this section, but it's significant in this case.

785
01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:58,880
No base tenants and who are based partners for attractions.

786
01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:16,840
in one of my reasons is for asking that. I mean the planning board has the option and

787
01:07:16,840 --> 01:07:21,260
I think we should exercise it to hire a project manager at your expense.

788
01:07:27,900 --> 01:07:28,860
And the project

789
01:07:28,860 --> 01:07:35,880
And I also think we need some input with our local building inspector she may I'm assuming it's still the same person

790
01:07:35,880 --> 01:07:36,500
I don't know

791
01:07:37,140 --> 01:07:38,220
May need

792
01:07:39,980 --> 01:07:41,180
additional help

793
01:07:49,350 --> 01:07:52,630
Because if I remember for the first project

794
01:07:53,450 --> 01:08:01,710
That brought our Jimmie submitted we did hire project manager and I don't remember if we went through Berkshire regional to do it or if

795
01:08:03,730 --> 01:08:07,510
We, and I don't even remember who he was, the honest with you.

796
01:08:08,870 --> 01:08:09,930
That sounds right.

797
01:08:11,710 --> 01:08:16,390
But I mean, but, but, all the side, I mean, there's a process to hire and we need time

798
01:08:16,390 --> 01:08:25,370
to do that too, because once you submit, we have 95 days and 90 or 95 to, to, to begin

799
01:08:25,370 --> 01:08:33,590
holding public hands. And then this is strictly conceptual, so I mean, and

800
01:08:35,960 --> 01:08:38,620
quite often and in both

801
01:08:38,620 --> 01:08:45,040
cases, which didn't materialize, but we were always pressured under one. We got to get heads on

802
01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:52,440
beds. We got to take advantage of the building climate, the building season. You know, I don't think

803
01:08:52,440 --> 01:08:54,360
the small board needs to have that pressure.

804
01:08:56,760 --> 01:09:02,460
And I think being fair to the town because

805
01:09:02,460 --> 01:09:08,040
this is going to impact the town in Washington. And it can impact, I think, very positively.

806
01:09:18,780 --> 01:09:23,260
Oh, yeah, definitely. But we didn't, I don't think with snow at all. And that's another

807
01:09:23,260 --> 01:09:25,880
place where I think we didn't do a new diligence.

808
01:09:26,240 --> 01:09:35,040
I think it took us two years, if I remember right, just to write the by-law because it wasn't

809
01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:40,680
allowed in that area at the time and under the current by-laws is the per because you're

810
01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:41,520
in an overlay district.

811
01:09:41,720 --> 01:09:43,360
You're not in the commercial zone anymore.

812
01:09:46,540 --> 01:09:50,140
You're really only in rural residential with an overlay.

813
01:09:58,360 --> 01:10:05,220
on that side. It's doesn't just entail this property. It entails, I think, up to

814
01:10:05,220 --> 01:10:12,520
larges, but I think it's everything on Route 7 to the west of Route 7 from the

815
01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:19,060
Lanesboro Line to Mallory Road. If I remember right. Because you could, you can't

816
01:10:19,060 --> 01:10:31,940
You can't approve a district on only one piece of property because then it's considered spot zoning and that is that's why and at the time

817
01:10:31,940 --> 01:10:35,700
I think and they could be four or five properties in there. I don't know now.

818
01:10:38,240 --> 01:10:44,320
What is that? What's that spot? There's five.

819
01:10:49,980 --> 01:10:50,540
There's five.

820
01:10:50,540 --> 01:10:52,200
that is in the overlay district.

821
01:10:52,480 --> 01:10:53,320
Okay, okay.

822
01:10:53,480 --> 01:10:56,420
That would be to the west of Route 7.

823
01:10:56,640 --> 01:10:58,580
So, the task will go on here.

824
01:10:59,120 --> 01:10:59,840
Yeah, yeah.

825
01:10:59,940 --> 01:11:00,700
Hopping up here.

826
01:11:01,520 --> 01:11:05,560
No, I thought it went to the,

827
01:11:06,220 --> 01:11:12,440
I don't remember if it split the old spring's restaurant

828
01:11:12,440 --> 01:11:13,120
or not.

829
01:11:14,660 --> 01:11:15,100
Okay.

830
01:11:15,980 --> 01:11:17,900
Because you guys didn't go back very far.

831
01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:21,560
But I don't know how that, that's okay.

832
01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:25,420
But I mean, there is an overlap, and it's defined, it's defined.

833
01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:26,240
We

834
01:11:28,250 --> 01:11:28,830
had a great memory.

835
01:11:30,150 --> 01:11:31,790
Yeah, any other questions?

836
01:11:34,210 --> 01:11:37,750
Well, I think that was very informative, and we appreciate your time.

837
01:11:38,550 --> 01:11:38,850
Thank you.

838
01:11:39,110 --> 01:11:39,790
Appreciate it, Harris.

839
01:11:39,990 --> 01:11:41,370
Thank you for having me on the line.

840
01:11:54,380 --> 01:11:58,900
Next on, the agenda, the discussion on the mill and the cost,

841
01:12:01,620 --> 01:12:04,040
we just came in and did that.

842
01:12:04,040 --> 01:12:25,560
So an ADU update, we have gotten a filing back from the attorney general, and they have approved our ADU with, with, with deletion of the permanent.

843
01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:30,380
We cannot have a permanent foundation, so they took that away from us.

844
01:12:31,060 --> 01:12:41,100
So it could be, Jason and I got, yeah, we got it, it's been approved, so, I don't know.

845
01:12:44,220 --> 01:12:50,060
So they, they took that out of it, the idea of a permanent foundation, did they give

846
01:12:50,060 --> 01:12:50,520
a reason?

847
01:12:51,940 --> 01:13:00,550
Let me see what I see if I can open it here.

848
01:13:09,370 --> 01:13:10,550
Standard of view.

849
01:13:11,250 --> 01:13:12,350
One view I go.

850
01:13:12,910 --> 01:13:13,490
Don't.

851
01:13:18,350 --> 01:13:23,610
Under the power of disapproval, fundamental that every

852
01:13:30,790 --> 01:13:35,830
I would think that would still retain the bill and expected depending on the structure.

853
01:13:36,370 --> 01:13:40,910
It doesn't, because you don't require the foundation wouldn't be, it could, it

854
01:13:40,910 --> 01:13:46,170
doesn't mean it could be a mobile home, it could be, do they,

855
01:13:52,190 --> 01:13:59,210
I thought the lawyer did tell me but it was something to do with we already had language

856
01:13:59,210 --> 01:14:07,010
in the bylaws that addressed it and so they took it out is what I remember but I can

857
01:14:07,010 --> 01:14:07,890
write it down.

858
01:14:07,890 --> 01:14:17,090
But I don't think that would take any authority away from the building inspector as far as structure as far as I

859
01:14:17,090 --> 01:14:25,870
Didn't read it. I don't know. I'm just curious. That's the only thing they found. That's the only thing that they everything else was in when did you get notification of this Diane?

860
01:14:26,870 --> 01:14:43,650
this was sent in to us in December okay so it was sent to Jason and I so the

861
01:14:43,650 --> 01:14:50,250
ADU laws are in yeah our bylaws are in effect we're not under strictly state

862
01:14:52,350 --> 01:14:57,410
Any questions on that? I'll try to find the exact language that lawyer said he'd

863
01:14:57,410 --> 01:14:58,990
discuss it with me later, so.

864
01:15:01,260 --> 01:15:03,460
Any unforeseen business? All

865
01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:18,020
righty. Could I have a vote on adjourning? And it's accepting our. Yes.

866
01:15:18,980 --> 01:15:30,100
Are we doing something with that was Luigi or how are we? Louisa? Oh, I thought we were doing another thing from. Now it was discussion on the mill on the

867
01:15:30,100 --> 01:15:37,140
lost. That was what she was with the land, right? Wasn't that a state what they

868
01:15:37,140 --> 01:15:40,480
are. Finally, we are working with the Alliance.

869
01:15:42,720 --> 01:15:44,360
I couldn't get a hold of her.

870
01:15:46,910 --> 01:15:48,910
So I went out and I got all the

871
01:15:48,910 --> 01:15:55,370
information. The rail church should call me yesterday. So that's going to get started

872
01:15:55,370 --> 01:16:01,050
with them getting the permit to do the title five. So that is in the works finally.

873
01:16:01,750 --> 01:16:03,430
I'm not sure what you're talking about.

874
01:16:04,750 --> 01:16:05,290
We're finding.

875
01:16:05,830 --> 01:16:06,650
Oh, we're finding.

876
01:16:06,830 --> 01:16:07,250
Oh, OK.

877
01:16:07,510 --> 01:16:07,670
Yeah.

878
01:16:07,970 --> 01:16:08,190
OK.

879
01:16:08,810 --> 01:16:09,050
OK.

880
01:16:10,170 --> 01:16:11,410
Oh, did you want to do it?

881
01:16:11,470 --> 01:16:12,290
Do you use up there?

882
01:16:12,890 --> 01:16:13,230
No.

883
01:16:13,590 --> 01:16:14,170
No, no, no.

884
01:16:15,830 --> 01:16:17,330
No, not that I'm aware of.

885
01:16:17,830 --> 01:16:19,530
This is for the Board of Health, right?

886
01:16:19,910 --> 01:16:21,070
The only one we've had is that.

887
01:16:21,070 --> 01:16:21,950
Is that for the Board of Health?

888
01:16:22,110 --> 01:16:26,870
They're talking about getting through a lot of lines.

889
01:16:27,270 --> 01:16:28,350
Is she talking about the Board of Health?

890
01:16:28,350 --> 01:16:28,850
They want it.

891
01:16:28,850 --> 01:16:37,710
from what I want to do a B&B correct is that why they you're having to check

892
01:16:37,710 --> 01:16:47,690
their title five and I know that there was a question she wrote me that there

893
01:16:47,690 --> 01:16:55,610
was a question about possibly making it a B&B I think of what I was told yesterday

894
01:16:55,610 --> 01:16:59,910
There are key people that are interested, that are rust rattleers, so not easy.

895
01:17:00,870 --> 01:17:01,950
I'm sorry, I should have been.

896
01:17:01,950 --> 01:17:02,550
No, please stop.

897
01:17:02,890 --> 01:17:03,330
That's all right.

898
01:17:03,810 --> 01:17:04,970
I think everybody knows.

899
01:17:05,190 --> 01:17:05,630
Is that?

900
01:17:05,850 --> 01:17:06,750
Do we allow with you?

901
01:17:06,970 --> 01:17:08,790
Yes, I believe so.

902
01:17:08,970 --> 01:17:10,850
I think we addressed it.

903
01:17:11,010 --> 01:17:13,290
We don't have the issues like Lanesboro has, I don't believe.

904
01:17:15,270 --> 01:17:22,590
Yeah, because we allowed one for a Louise Palmer at that time, and I think, yeah, and

905
01:17:22,590 --> 01:17:22,930
I.

906
01:17:24,530 --> 01:17:24,970
Here's the answer.

907
01:17:24,970 --> 01:17:28,670
It's I don't think it's a by right. I think they have to apply for special permit.

908
01:17:30,930 --> 01:17:41,830
But in I did ask the lawyer that and I don't know how that deals with Airbnb. I have no idea we've never had to deal with that issue. And I think that's also some of the problems lanes,

909
01:17:41,830 --> 01:17:48,390
Hillsborough's having is with Airbnb's as well as yeah and that's a whole separate thing over bed and breakfast

910
01:17:49,710 --> 01:17:52,590
Well the thing is if they're already having

911
01:17:54,250 --> 01:17:59,930
Apartments and ability to house up above the restaurant it may

912
01:18:00,690 --> 01:18:02,830
I don't know how that would affect

913
01:18:03,510 --> 01:18:05,690
Yeah, I don't

914
01:18:05,690 --> 01:18:08,070
So I have addressed it with the lawyer

915
01:18:10,550 --> 01:18:15,010
But there's been no purchase in sales agreement, there's nothing concrete, it's just still

916
01:18:15,010 --> 01:18:15,750
over the month.

917
01:18:20,630 --> 01:18:24,510
Right, and you've said right, they got to either, or you've got to meet some.

918
01:18:30,500 --> 01:18:31,900
Do you think they've had offers?

919
01:18:35,180 --> 01:18:35,960
That's what they're doing.

920
01:18:35,960 --> 01:18:38,560
because it's a pretty important thing to let me go.

921
01:18:38,620 --> 01:18:42,060
I'm not interested there, and the ones that have been interested,

922
01:18:42,560 --> 01:18:47,000
because I asked her, is this going to continue to be a restaurant?

923
01:18:47,600 --> 01:18:51,280
And she said, there are restaurant people who are interested.

924
01:18:51,940 --> 01:18:56,440
But they've got to get that Title 5 before they can do anything else, unfortunately.

925
01:18:57,240 --> 01:18:58,840
And then maybe they can get moving on.

926
01:19:00,260 --> 01:19:04,520
And they already have someone who's going to actually do the work.

927
01:19:10,410 --> 01:19:14,490
I hope it's going to be a regular restaurant, not like in the head.

928
01:19:18,210 --> 01:19:22,510
Any other comments, questions, motion to adjourn?

929
01:19:24,470 --> 01:19:25,650
I'll make the motion.