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[1:51] And
[2:57] Joe, are you there yet? Yeah, I'm here, Peter. Okay, thank you.
[3:03] I've got to take the clock, Peter. So if you would all join the name, then it's like a relation.
[3:09] Congratulations, Jim Brace, the act of the United States.
[3:15] Can you talk about the public, the Justice Lands and the United Nations?
[3:21] We're going to hear all of you guys.
[3:22] The head of the London and the head of the British Foundation,
[3:25] we're on Chester's.
[3:29] We have a number of agencies to the First Consent agenda which has a government and
[3:38] The first appointment was to come in the system.
[3:40] The other one is the office plan.
[3:44] The document is the reappointment of the cell
[3:47] or the regular number of the planning board.
[3:50] Currently, the reappointment of Peter Hogan
[3:52] has the regular number of the planning board.
[3:55] And I'd like to, I'd like to interact with you
[3:57] Mr. Chairman on the last appointment I've had.
[4:00] And anticipate that having two signatures by three signatures.
[4:03] But that is on delay. If you don't mind, we'll take that up later. We also have an alternate appointment, Chris and Karothers.
[4:12] Yeah, I got that first.
[4:14] Okay, I'm sorry.
[4:16] So, I would take the motion to approve the consent agenda with the appointment of Chris and Karothers,
[4:25] But reappointment of that carol and reappointment of fear,
[4:28] poke out through the planning board.
[4:31] Do I have a motion?
[4:38] I'll make a motion to report because that agenda
[4:40] is the appointment of Christine Brothers,
[4:42] and Carol, and Peter Hogan to the planning board
[4:45] is no good.
[4:47] I'll second the motion.
[4:49] We'll go.
[4:53] Yes.
[4:55] Joel?
[4:57] David?
[4:58] Yes.
[5:00] OK.
[5:00] Peter is there any public comment?
[5:03] I don't have any, sir.
[5:05] Okay.
[5:06] But we visit that at the end.
[5:08] Okay.
[5:08] First of all, I'm in Alan Brown.
[5:10] I'm voting against discussion of Dory Lane Bridge.
[5:13] And, uh, future and ongoing project.
[5:15] Go ahead.
[5:17] Okay.
[5:17] Good evening folks.
[5:18] Good evening.
[5:20] We get some boring, some on the Dory Lane Bridge.
[5:23] And the Dory Lane Bridge, whatever you'd like to consider to be called with Bridge.
[5:28] The death that they got, who was 13 to 15, he'd average, on either side of the bridge, he'd enlarge.
[5:35] So that was a good thing.
[5:37] I don't have the drill as long as it has returned to back those yet.
[5:41] But that's right, it did that.
[5:42] But imagine you'll see that in the next day as stupid as you see it right well.
[5:49] There's a drill.
[5:50] There's a drill at now.
[5:52] Do you think?
[5:53] Can I get the question out on the boring?
[5:57] But they did not only the pouring was blow-tap, which kept the solidity of the less.
[6:05] Did that check out online?
[6:07] I don't know that for sure.
[6:08] They were all done.
[6:09] They were in the middle of the drillers.
[6:12] That didn't end.
[6:13] So that's true.
[6:14] We'll get all this information next few days.
[6:17] Okay.
[6:20] Yeah.
[6:21] Back to their roads.
[6:22] I'm going better with the frost free thought.
[6:25] I would say before that it didn't wait.
[6:27] way in the week certainly will have every room down to be.
[6:32] It's great that it's still in the classroom for a while, isn't it?
[6:39] Still coming in very good, isn't it good?
[6:42] Um, Alan, have you done anything with beer, Rose, because I've already heard from people
[6:47] and...
[6:47] Yeah, I've heard of you, Karen.
[6:51] We did that with Friday.
[6:54] Okay, what did you do on Friday?
[6:57] We still know the money areas on the road, on the radio, be a road, be a road, be a road.
[7:05] We did it a couple more than we did from the electricity road and the lower lane.
[7:12] And then we moved on to join the crew a bit.
[7:16] It got to the point that the cross for much longer.
[7:18] We put the ducks on the road.
[7:19] We were actually getting stuck ourselves so we didn't leave them on.
[7:22] We did that this morning.
[7:25] So, a little bit of a drop of data that we're working on,
[7:28] something to call them in the cell field that I'll next day as well.
[7:34] Okay, thank you.
[7:35] You're welcome.
[7:37] Uh, we're still putting together a catalog with a screenshot
[7:40] of the time the page size is linked.
[7:43] Location to page, the conditions are in.
[7:46] Uh, we'll send that down to that.
[7:48] Well, it should be again on plenty more.
[7:50] It's not what's got a lot of much to do with that.
[7:52] So, it'll be good when they step up for all of them.
[7:54] Okay, so these are my areas where we need to put them in a dope thing.
[7:59] Waiting on the final notice for paving, grading and finding something in the rose.
[8:06] That's the help of P to find who we were able to find quite a good money in the budget.
[8:11] So we're going to get a several rows of rebuked rebuked down for grading, rebuked rebuked, rebuked, rebuked, rebuked, rebuked, rebuked, rebuked, rebuked, rebuked, rebuked.
[8:19] of two and a half inch baton.
[8:23] All those roads are, I have a list,
[8:25] but I'm not sure if they're going to be going to move this,
[8:27] which is all good, though.
[8:29] We don't have to do much fuel.
[8:31] I do want to, I want to get to RCA on a just main emphasize
[8:34] to the board that these are all going out to bed.
[8:38] We are the process of finalizing the specs
[8:41] on the regrating and reconstructing the roads,
[8:45] but the formats for the beds of the North,
[8:47] and we're in the process of getting ready to send them out.
[8:51] So at the next meeting, we'll be able to warn them a bit.
[8:56] Correct, I want this.
[8:58] Yes, thank you, Peter.
[9:01] Peter, that's not the stuff.
[9:04] Please, the questions for our proposal,
[9:06] A big amendment claim that we are in our book?
[9:09] Yeah, it's based on that, but we don't have all the specs on each row.
[9:14] Generally speaking, that's the form, man.
[9:18] Because I have a question that guides us in the best, that where that first page we had talked about is VA, mentioned on that stuff, those facts have not been finalized yet.
[9:31] No. No.
[9:32] That was a draft of what we were trying to put together.
[9:37] I think one of them, I just wanted to add that.
[9:40] You know, the sending, sending, sending, sending, sending, sending contract, something that, you know, I think we talked about the act that we're about a year ago, and we've never really done that before, but never really, we haven't done that.
[9:55] And this is finally where this is the generic thing that Peter solicits on the text we put in as to what we want.
[10:10] Okay, and who is going to the Department of Staff, like do we have an engineer designing, designing this, that's what I would talk about.
[10:22] We do work with the engineer, whether that's not my or like the authority language, it's a girl's answer, that kind of thing.
[10:31] And if I might interrupt it for a minute, mostly it says the state formula that we will probably
[10:37] go to work with, basically come and have the top of the internet, depending on what we have
[10:42] on it for.
[10:48] It's an opportunity.
[10:51] Great.
[10:52] Back then, one of the years, we're looking to go to a product, and I don't have the paperwork
[10:56] but because we're going to get a little busy, I don't know if we're going to drop it, and
[11:00] say enzyme liquid that is biodegradable in the ground with the state, that they like
[11:06] on a left panel, quite a 10 years, and I think with these, you'll mix in the dirt roads
[11:12] about six or six to 10 years deep. That brings all the materials together to one. He, too,
[11:19] is about to submit almost a submit base that actually gets done, and it's got the dust and
[11:25] heat prohibitive properties in it. Quite a bit of good items, but I'm not sure that it works
[11:32] So, the years have been in Michigan, I haven't heard any about real cold roads, and I'll try to find out a little bit of what.
[11:38] On the roads that we have that good cross, the peak, and on the caves.
[11:43] And if it doesn't, if we may try something like that, I don't know, we're going to something like that.
[11:47] And see if it's worth doing it, because that would be a real cross for us on the good roads.
[11:52] You may come to a million.
[11:57] Next time on down we have all of our trucks that are coming all up right now.
[12:01] Thanks to the entire worker, all these ways.
[12:04] especially the largest, it's a good water, it's a good family and it's a good job of us.
[12:15] I'm not sure what we are on the better colors that talk to the engineers and I'm going to get to the end of the event.
[12:20] For the color on, just on the side of the box for a better road and then we also have the line road bridge, poverty to be replaced.
[12:32] So I hope to have the good things ready to go before the end of April and have to talk to the end of the year again
[12:40] and begin a transfer.
[12:42] I'm going to try and push out a little bit later.
[12:46] And then the body can make it so that's where I have any questions?
[12:53] I don't have a question.
[12:55] I don't have a question.
[12:55] I don't have a question.
[12:57] I know you look at it.
[12:58] But it's got a couple of calls, especially in which guys, there's a little dilemma in Clark Hill, and I guess there's also one that's been on the second hand to turn five to five times.
[13:12] You mentioned that there's others around town, do you know, is there a plan on how we can have those removed?
[13:21] And I'm going to have a call on you, I think you're holding a bit of a week in there.
[13:29] They've often been too busy with lines down the tree work for a home, you want that.
[13:35] They're not very receptive, right now.
[13:36] You don't just want them for a straight job.
[13:40] And the proof is it should become a lot of sometimes when they can be able to put them on the tree
[13:44] or on the spot.
[13:46] So it's true, you want them to go quite high.
[13:47] We can't get some believe we have.
[13:49] We shouldn't be specializing in obviously, but I hope they get a lot of the right.
[13:55] I can't say exact days, but soon as I don't want to try to find that to know.
[14:00] Okay, thank you.
[14:02] All right, welcome.
[14:06] Okay, anything else?
[14:08] Well, I just said, so we're talking about the dirt roads down.
[14:12] So, are you everything?
[14:14] Are you going to make another cast at your road when you talk about the grading and stuff?
[14:19] That's what you're doing this week.
[14:21] Yes, we have the bank on Friday, we did not, but we did not.
[14:26] The board, granted, was no need to embarrass us.
[14:29] We did, we did not, we did not, we did not, we did not.
[14:33] But we have to recreate them all again and prove them all up a little bit more.
[14:38] But we did not, we did not.
[14:39] We did not.
[14:41] I hope that you are stuck, that is good to hear.
[14:43] Yeah, and I would be interested in that if you could get that information to feed us or you could
[14:49] and one of them walks well.
[14:50] So you can come here and figure out the knowledge.
[14:54] And let's surprise some of you, see the verses about.
[14:56] Five, six, seven, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine,
[14:59] eight, 10, seven, seven, seven, seven, seven,
[15:01] Okay, ready?
[15:06] You welcome. You're welcome. You're welcome.
[15:08] You're welcome. You're welcome.
[15:12] I'm Bill K. All of that.
[15:15] And I'm just gonna keep the positive. Thanks, folks. I appreciate it, Helen.
[15:20] Good night. Good night.
[15:23] And I did two is Mark Sunan, and I have a good question.
[15:27] I'll take you down on the tap, grant intent, and interest for the rail trail.
[15:32] Um, aren't you listed yet, are you there, Mark?
[15:36] I am here, yes.
[15:38] Okay, all of it.
[15:40] I'm doing swell.
[15:42] Mark, um, here.
[15:45] You looked at the questions, do you want to, to the more Peter has the information for you,
[15:50] uh, whatever you want to.
[15:52] Well, so one thing I noticed is that your third item agenda is Luis Roby,
[15:57] uh, asking for the selection of approval.
[15:59] is possible if she were to proceed me. She may have some of the answers I was looking for.
[16:05] I'll need that to your discretion.
[16:08] Okay, well, we'll hear from Peter, and if Louise is here, then we can hear from her
[16:13] mark and then you can read up.
[16:17] There you go.
[16:19] I don't believe Louise has signed in yet. She said she'd be on and caught about six,
[16:24] but it should be any minute.
[16:25] And I'll start the first one was the slightly more aware that a letter of intent was submitted to the DOT.
[16:34] What happened is I received a letter from the Conservation Commission slash rail trail committee relative to the express expression of interest.
[16:46] It was no commitment in any way whatsoever, but that's a normal thing that I would normally
[16:52] sign.
[16:53] And by the way, we didn't have time for the slightly to see that, because it was after
[16:59] the last meeting of Woodabin in this week's book, as a back up.
[17:05] But the fact of the matter is, in the past, I've done this and the authority of doing these
[17:11] rent request lies within major restriction if it does not require any funding by the town.
[17:19] And a slightly more always allowed me to do that as long as it wasn't committing anything
[17:24] definite.
[17:25] But it was just a letter of interest and what happens after that is the DOT would confirm
[17:31] that the more us that they received it and that we have a deadline to actually apply for a
[17:39] land and that deadline happens to be just coming Friday.
[17:45] So in doing that, that's what the
[17:47] letter that Louise is going to talk about is relative to and there's no commitment whatsoever
[17:54] in the town. As a matter of fact, the money that 20% mark is strictly donated money that they have
[18:07] In 2017, the rail trail committee applied for a grant for $100,000, the same type thing
[18:15] was part of the rail trail from another funding source.
[18:20] It wasn't the same funding source as this was.
[18:24] But Southern Amhert, at that time, we needed endorsements of what Southern Amhert's planning
[18:29] actually has a letter here, dated in 2017, in a while, Chief Brace, in a flash, and so, more
[18:39] or less, underdressing the project. And that was $100,000 for the conservation slash,
[18:47] rail trail committee, how do they fund pay for that? So that's all done. I just bring that
[18:53] out because it's a little history that was happening now, what we're talking about is a
[18:59] take situation, and I know it could be scary when some reason said,
[19:04] well, we're going to get the money.
[19:05] It wasn't really clear probably maybe to some of you until tonight.
[19:09] But that money is not coming from taxation.
[19:13] The only thing is we have to think that there was a question
[19:16] about how do we pay that money?
[19:19] The state, and I talked to the DOT today just to get clarification.
[19:23] And the stability of the 500,000 of cost, which is what we estimated to be.
[19:30] And that's what we're applying for.
[19:33] What happens is the town would get the bills that could structure and stop it.
[19:40] And by the way, we won't know this.
[19:42] We wouldn't be able to stop this or that the rail trail committee probably wouldn't be able to undertake the project for another two years.
[19:49] That's how long this takes.
[19:50] So they would, the state would reimbursed as invoices came in.
[19:57] The only town participation in the financial pod is, as we're sort of the funding temporarily
[20:05] until the state reimburses us.
[20:08] And we kicked that mechanism in to be legal by a warrant article, which the real
[20:14] material committee, conservation is going to probably put in in the next budget, and then
[20:20] we've put it in for like 500, which are hundreds of somewhat thousands of people.
[20:25] It's paying for all of these, which are hundreds of thousands of dollars would be paid for by the
[20:32] committee, the real-fiel committee.
[20:35] So it's not that we're trying up money and then getting paid a year or two later.
[20:40] It's as we go along as it's blamed by Mr. Dreamers and as in voices got submitted the time
[20:47] the state would re-embers us 80% of the cost and the other 20% would be funded by the
[20:54] bilateral committees from donations.
[20:57] So I hope that it clarifies a little bit.
[20:59] The engineering work has been paid for, I will be paid for, totally by donations of what
[21:09] if I believe over $10,000,000, and that the real
[21:13] free ultimately many is a subcommittee of them.
[21:16] So that's all being taken care of right now by
[21:18] conservation, and then we'll be any other further
[21:22] engineering would be taken care of for the donation.
[21:26] So Louise has signed on and Louise, we're going to go
[21:30] right in, I think Mr. Chairman's proper to say
[21:33] that Louise could be going down and discuss this.
[21:36] Well, I'll be. Yes. Okay, that was your own. Okay, so we have a history of the rail trail.
[21:47] Everything has been funded with non-no-tech fair dollars. Okay. We have say one, say one B, which we had a
[22:02] That helped us with that.
[22:04] That was in the 80s, 20 grand.
[22:07] And that brought us through
[22:09] Length Station Forest.
[22:12] That was fun.
[22:13] And then the December 2019.
[22:16] And then we now have a grant to finish
[22:22] a lot of two miles of trail from Length State Forest
[22:27] to the end, and that is another grant from the New Hampshire Poxon Rex, and that is a 50-50
[22:41] grant, and we have raised 102,000, and we are getting 100,000 to finish that, that
[22:51] section of trail. What we are looking to do, and in the reason was, when we have the logging
[23:01] infection done earlier, with this late last year, okay, Eric saw a phone from the New
[23:12] Hamster here, Parkson Rex, is the one that came and over saw logging that we had done to finish
[23:20] along to miles, and while we were at Parker Road, the standing gravel trucks were going
[23:27] by nonstop. This is where the rail trail process, Parker Road, and he looked at me and
[23:37] he said, we, when you're done this, you will apply for a tap grant because this is safety
[23:45] issue. And we said, well, it was a tunnel, train tunnel, but when it was right here, he said,
[23:52] well, he says, I would put a tunnel in, he says, because it is a safety issue. And that's why
[23:58] we're doing that. Okay. Again, this last, this tap program that we are applying for if we
[24:11] your support. Okay, is an 80-20 grant and we would of course just like all the other phases
[24:27] of the Rale Trail, so knowing could be funded by donation. Okay,
[24:37] any questions?
[24:39] Well, Luis Markson and Gary, and I believe you got to have some questions, so Mark, is your turn?
[24:47] Absolutely.
[24:47] Okay, so Luis, I have found out about this at a Southern Hamster Regional Planning Commission meeting,
[24:58] when it was, I was informed, as a commissioner, that New Boston had a plot,
[25:02] I had submitted a letter of intent to apply it.
[25:07] So, no matter what you've been trying, yeah.
[25:09] No, I want to be clear, the letter of intent, not an interest.
[25:13] So, it's intent to apply it.
[25:16] And so, understand the applications are due the end of the week.
[25:19] And you're asking for the solicitors for that letter.
[25:23] You mentioned the safety issue.
[25:25] Were police and fire also informed of the intent to submit
[25:29] for this application?
[25:31] No, we wanted to know if we, if we, if we hadn't entrusted, okay, and we cemented
[25:39] a letter of interest, okay, that we were interested in applying for this tap grant, all
[25:50] right?
[25:51] And so it came back, they were interested in the supply, so now on a currency, okay, as we have
[26:00] on with all other phases of this rail terminal.
[26:05] Now we're coming to be sort of a sort of selection
[26:09] for their support.
[26:15] I have several follow-up questions.
[26:18] There was a mandatory webinar that needed to be attended
[26:22] to apply for the grant on March 3rd.
[26:25] It's someone who has a town attend that Minnesota webinar.
[26:29] Laura Bernad.
[26:31] Okay.
[26:31] is she intended to be the found sponsor, which is, sorry, the person in responsible charge
[26:40] must be a full time employee of the town and have trained in the LPA process.
[26:47] The one who is going to oversee in the project is Kevin, Leonard from North Point Engineering.
[26:58] He's certified.
[27:01] Not as a February 2nd.
[27:05] Well, he said that he might have to renew his investigation, but he talked to him on Friday.
[27:15] And he said that he would be willing to do this.
[27:18] Okay, and that's why he's acting as a tends to do it.
[27:22] But the town's person in responsible church also must be LPA certified.
[27:27] of it.
[27:30] Well, our agonitis, but she's not fair about it.
[27:34] She's not fair about it.
[27:39] So, is that maybe an issue that comes up with your grant application?
[27:51] My view?
[27:52] Mark, can we speak about what do we need to have serv chat?
[28:00] There's language, let me be back up a step, a tap grant, and I don't know about all the other grants that
[28:08] the police mentioned in her privilege here, but a tap grant is a federal grant. It is in federal money, 20% of the money, and as a federal grant that is passed through
[28:21] and HDOT, there are a series of rules and regulations called the local public genc projects.
[28:36] And there's a whole book of rules and regulations that go with that.
[28:40] And one of those rules is that there has to be a full-time town employee who is considered the person in responsible charge.
[28:47] And that person that talent employees must be LPA certified.
[28:55] But there are actually two different separate certifications.
[28:58] One is the design and engineering certification.
[29:02] And one is the construction labor compliance certification.
[29:08] The labor compliance certification obviously doesn't become a problem until the work actually goes into construction.
[29:15] But the application up for the grant and the design and engineering that goes into it
[29:24] is absolutely needs that LPA sort of a person.
[29:28] So having Kevin on board as an LPA person for either the design and engineering
[29:34] and or the construction.
[29:38] So I just still have to be the town employee who is the person responsible for the charge.
[29:44] Well, Laura is the one who oversees the books and everything, all the income and all the
[29:53] expenses and one of the contractors needs any kind of material.
[30:03] I'd like to interrupt here. I think what Mark is saying, that that's all well and good. And I'm listening to Mark say that that person really should be certified. And I'm thinking to myself, well, if that's the case, we shouldn't have get to that and probably try to get certified as soon as we can. When they have another certification class, I think it would be before anything as a warning to the town. I think it could be done in time.
[30:31] I think what is involved with that part, of course.
[30:39] Yeah,
[30:42] the LPA engineering and design certification.
[30:47] I think is either a one day or a two day course that is virtual only.
[30:54] I think the next time it's being offered is sometime in April or May of this year, and then the labor compliance, I think, is a half-day certification, and I think they offer that one in October.
[31:08] Well, you know, I would agree with you, you know, in front of myself that we need to have
[31:13] a daughter boy.
[31:15] If it's Laura that time, check the course.
[31:17] And, you know, just together from the discussion here, I think in the future when we do that,
[31:23] we need to expand our circle of the multiplication over the bit more.
[31:29] So, someone like Mark who is involved and has been involved with any ever from the time
[31:34] or a long time, it's not loved out of it.
[31:37] I agree, and I think that could be screened now
[31:41] just as a matter of the tonight's meeting.
[31:45] I thought I'd let me just say this,
[31:47] so we would notify by southern and anxious planning
[31:51] to mention all of the availability of these grants.
[31:55] So we have never really dealt with the representatives
[31:58] from the planning go into that commission before,
[32:01] but certainly it makes a lot of sense
[32:03] have been a communication, how you agree on it, for a second?
[32:07] Mark, others.
[32:10] I guess we want to go back to my last year.
[32:16] So the timeline, I think what concerns me the most is that Louise, you've said that
[32:23] the money will come from donations and from the conservation commissions budget and solicitations.
[32:32] No, no, it's all in through donation.
[32:36] Okay, I mentioned budget movies, and I'm sorry if I said the right thing, but I thought
[32:41] the initial expenses with Kevin Lenny could come out of a conservation fund.
[32:47] I may be wrong.
[32:49] Well, it's always been through fundraising that, for the sense we've finished phase one
[32:56] And we continued, all monies were brave, who don't they?
[33:03] Okay, then I would correct myself and say that any outstanding
[33:07] voice is from the engineering firm that had to be paid, and the donations were not enough to pay for it.
[33:14] The way it was explained is that the conservation fund could find it until such time,
[33:19] as though the donations met the amount of money you needed.
[33:24] That's, yeah, that's, that's a little different than what I first said.
[33:27] Sorry, man.
[33:29] Got that thought, so the other piece that concerns me is the LPA rules, one rule, and I
[33:35] don't know, again, I don't know if your previous grants have had this rule, but the LPA system
[33:41] requires that you have to have a hundred percent of the total funding in hand when you
[33:46] start the project because it is a reimbursement program and it is based on the rules and regulations
[33:52] and DOC does have the authority and the right and often does reject reimbursements if they
[34:01] if you haven't followed all their rules and regulations.
[34:04] So they require that you have 100% of the budget for the project on hand when you start
[34:09] the project.
[34:11] I'd like to also add to that mark that today, I'm talking to Mr. James and I asked a question
[34:17] And he said what we should do is create a warrant on a goal for the total amount, and then
[34:24] of course credit the donations coming in, and then there are net balance of the 20%
[34:30] would be from the donations.
[34:32] But if we put it in a warrant on a goal, and it's approved by the time, that I think covers
[34:38] that area.
[34:40] And as soon as then it would be a war article would be obviously the 2022 cycle which
[34:48] should be defined for the schedule that I've seen, which is that the municipal agreements
[34:55] are signed by the town sometime between October and January.
[35:00] Money doesn't become available until January 2022, but the money does have to be spent
[35:06] if I think I'm correct by, September of 2024.
[35:13] So that is a great time line.
[35:18] So currently, okay, to ease people's mind, okay?
[35:24] Currently, if this bridge, okay, it's grand.
[35:30] It has been approved by I'm going to mind trying to say, okay, if New Lawson, okay, in the
[35:43] lot of this grant, I already have people who are pledging so that we have a third already
[35:55] pretty.
[35:58] That's the sort of the 110,000 dollar match.
[36:08] That's the 110,000 dollar match.
[36:09] I don't know. There's no 100 rating if we're not going to get there.
[36:13] Because this is the last thing.
[36:18] So, I've ceased all fundraising because we already have 102 for dissolution to trade.
[36:27] Okay.
[36:27] If we do get awarded this grant, then fundraising is going to kick in again, but we already have a third place.
[36:42] Through pledges.
[36:44] If we go for, you know, to do this time.
[36:48] Sure.
[36:49] No, that's great news.
[36:52] So going back to the total cost has been estimated.
[36:55] And I understand that you had North Point put together a sketch that got some minutes to the O.T. is part of the short letter of interest.
[37:06] And, and estimates, what did they include in the estimate and was there any, was there any, was there anything?
[37:17] It's an napkin estimate, okay.
[37:22] Kevin had called some, my concrete solutions,
[37:28] you know, to estimate how much it would cost for a tunnel.
[37:34] And then we met on Friday of last week.
[37:40] Kevin, Laura, myself, and our town rotation, okay.
[37:47] to discuss the tunnel and we came up with two things that we had overlooked in this that
[37:58] are going to be submitted in our proposal once we get the application.
[38:05] Okay, so the assumption right now is you sort of put in a marker for 550,000 with the
[38:13] of interest, but it could end up being more based on the recent meetings from Fridays.
[38:20] Now, we're saying that that is still going to be a good budget number,
[38:29] but it's just
[38:31] going to be, I mean, the tunnel was revised a little bit after the road agent in Kevin and
[38:38] know we all look at it. We just shot a number out there, a high number out there, when we submitted
[38:47] our letter of interest.
[38:50] Okay. I guess that's all I'm saying. This is an industry I know a little
[38:54] bit about, and I'm not convinced your number is high enough.
[39:00] That's why I asked the question about
[39:03] what North Point included in their estimate. Well, it was the tunnel, it was the engineering
[39:10] And it was just an estimate on the road, the road work.
[39:20] That is also going to be fine-tuned by the authority.
[39:26] Okay.
[39:27] Kevin is working on that and he said that he would have some more numbers, more accurate
[39:34] numbers for us by the authority coming Friday.
[39:37] What has the question at this point regarding the cause, which has the issue of our
[39:45] expression, and then the letter of interest is more support for the letter of interest
[39:57] than due so if we send it, am I right in assuming that there's time to resign the number?
[40:05] before I never familiar with whatever it does,
[40:10] whatever format the mission takes, back to it.
[40:14] Well, you know, like, where the many in an application,
[40:21] but we haven't gone through the entire grant process
[40:28] and that's when all these figures are going to be refined.
[40:35] Well, you know, like, like, last time we submitted a grant, I mean, the whole binder was
[40:42] three inches.
[40:43] I think, you know?
[40:44] I book in that movie.
[40:46] I've done grant, but I'm just, you know, I can certainly, as Mark's concern clearly is the number.
[40:54] is this is a letter of interest, you put it in Mark's sense of a letter of intent, interest.
[41:07] But I just want to make sure of is that the letter of interest intends, whatever, but
[41:15] it blinded up to a figure that you have now that would not be added.
[41:21] I don't believe it does.
[41:24] I think that, I would agree with that, Joe.
[41:27] The letter is sort of putting in a marker that's the approximate amount of the actual number that's going to be discussed is whatever they put forward on Friday, March 19th by midnight.
[41:41] Because that might be out there being out there getting dead on it.
[41:44] Yeah.
[41:45] All right, all right.
[41:46] I want to remind the boy that the letter that Luis has submitted, I think it was in your books,
[41:52] that's a letter of support, which means you're just endorsing the process as it's going along
[41:56] and they need to have that with all kinds of grants.
[42:00] So it's nothing new.
[42:01] It's not committing you to anything at all.
[42:03] It's just a letter of support from the voice from that.
[42:06] Yeah.
[42:07] monitor this. Okay, so comment on what I'm from there and can I have. So my concern
[42:17] is that if the LGA rule is that there has to be a hundred percent total amount of the funding
[42:26] available prior to the start. And we're talking about, you know, I understand that you have already
[42:37] the question is if the grant is a third of $100,000 a match, and now there's about putting
[42:46] a warrant article out there, the power of the $500,000, my concern there is if we put
[42:54] this warrant article out there and then the tap program comes back and deny any dollar amount,
[43:04] Then the town would then be on the bus.
[43:07] No, we wouldn't.
[43:07] We would just not avoid the war in an act.
[43:10] We wouldn't apply it.
[43:14] Sure.
[43:15] I'll say this.
[43:16] The town will know for sure if the grants has been awarded by October of 2021.
[43:25] I will know for the war in order to article would be written,
[43:29] whether or not the ticket grant has been awarded.
[43:34] a term audience, but I want to be here, true, it's not awarded until after January, until
[43:41] after you showed that you have the money in hand.
[43:50] Okay.
[43:50] Another question I'm talking about, I guess I would be interested to know in your discussions
[43:59] for the road agent and the tab engine here, I hope it would discuss the excessive amount
[44:07] of heavy trucking that's going to go on on this road about the glitch, and that's good to hear.
[44:18] And that's the reasons for the tunnel.
[44:20] That's the reason.
[44:21] It's really a safety issue, okay, because when we were at that crossroad, it was non-stop.
[44:32] So I'm standing on the ground where we're coming through, and you know when people come
[44:39] and the ramp to park a road and cross, it would be a lot better if they just like bypass
[44:47] whole street went through a tunnel. So bikers for people and wheelchairs, I mean to tell them
[44:55] wheelchair acceptable just like phase one so it's
[45:00] It's really for a safety issue.
[45:03] And I understand it's for a safety issue. I just want to be sure that the design because it takes into account the incredible amount of views that this tunnel and sectional room will take.
[45:17] So yes, oh yeah.
[45:20] So fact of the tunnel is we had a tunnel of 55 feet long.
[45:28] Okay, and it's going to be 9 feet tall and 9 feet walk.
[45:37] So, you know, you put that down, you have the trail dead, and you're going to have, like,
[45:44] at least 6 feet of gravel on top of that tunnel.
[45:49] It's not more.
[45:52] And then the road is going to be paved on top of that.
[45:55] I'm going to have got rails on each side.
[46:01] So when they engineer these concrete tunnels,
[46:06] they have all these tolerances for weight and stuff
[46:09] that they have to factor in.
[46:12] These are the same tunnels that you see that
[46:14] are over like all the highway.
[46:19] OK, so is there anything to surprise?
[46:22] I did a follow-up question.
[46:24] And I appreciate the issue with the structural integrity
[46:30] of the tunnel.
[46:31] I'm sure that it can be engineered to be structuralists.
[46:34] That leads me to my next question is,
[46:36] who was going to be responsible to maintain
[46:38] this tunnel after it's been installed?
[46:42] And specifically, the regulations that NHDOT
[46:46] has that shall be maintained throughout winter operations,
[46:51] and that it shall be in particular.
[46:53] But this is a card, hold on, this is a matter of part.
[46:57] Doesn't matter.
[46:58] Doesn't matter.
[46:58] It's all, yes, Bill.
[47:01] Let's have a look at LKA requirements.
[47:04] If you were building a structure, it has to be, any tap grads has to be maintained through the winter,
[47:11] and has to be inspected if it's a structure for three-two years.
[47:15] Well, the conservation commission has always maintained the materials and we have always maintained the materials.
[47:26] It's part of the rail trail.
[47:34] If you're responsible, the conservation commission in the rail trail will be responsible for the every two year inspection that is required.
[47:44] That's what we don't get.
[47:51] Is that with, is that with, is that with, so, is that something that you would write up?
[47:58] I, I just don't want it to come back on the time that we have the, um, sit there and just pay for these infections, or for maintenance, noong run.
[48:10] I understand the purpose of the tunnel, I think is a good idea for safety purposes, especially.
[48:16] But I just want to make sure that it is met to that, in my lap, it would be just a confirm.
[48:27] This $500,000 also includes the road work and the guide mail that would be required above it.
[48:37] That's all part of the grant process, yes.
[48:40] All part of this package.
[48:42] And
[48:48] many scientists in that view would be responsible for the maintenance and keep of the time.
[48:59] Well, that's what we do for all our conservation chart.
[49:02] Anything that passes through a conservation trail, we maintain and that's our...
[49:11] That's what this will like my one-up to do, you know, take care of law trails and our properties.
[49:18] And this would be cause of the conservation property.
[49:25] I'll give it anything further.
[49:29] I'm all set, thank you.
[49:31] Mark?
[49:32] I'm good. Thank you very much for the opportunity to ask my questions and get some response.
[49:37] Thank you.
[49:38] Well, and it's very good to encourage market specialists here with your engineering background.
[49:43] Thank you.
[49:44] So I guess the question now that the board is support toward the letter of interest.
[49:52] Do we support this?
[49:53] And the big evaluation that we do so and ask for a second.
[50:01] Second,
[50:03] all those in favor, David,
[50:08] yes, Joe, yes, Karen.
[50:21] Yes, do you support it as we, there are some grammatical errors in the middle of it.
[50:28] Should get addressed, I guess.
[50:31] That's what I'm spelling too, Doug.
[50:33] Okay, okay, some motion carries.
[50:36] Thank you, Alicia.
[50:39] Thank you.
[50:40] Thank you, Martin.
[50:41] Thank you.
[50:43] Thank you very much.
[50:46] Well, thank you all.
[50:48] Item four, under all of this, is we will now go to a public hearing to accept a donation for the police department from a donor, who is going to be published later in the town before, or body cameras for the personnel of the police department.
[51:13] Mr. Chairman, will you call me?
[51:16] Mr. Chairman, I believe you.
[51:19] Mr. Chairman, I believe you are okay.
[51:22] I believe the police chief is on board here with us to maybe just give us a little bit of an idea of what this is all about in the purpose.
[51:30] Are you there, Drew?
[51:31] I am.
[51:33] Thank you.
[51:34] So again, the donor understands the requirement that he be identified, however, it was not
[51:45] his intent to gain any notoriety, he doesn't want any press.
[51:51] This was his appreciation to the town in particular the police department in showing his
[51:59] gratitude.
[51:59] So, that's why he would prefer not to be identified, but he understands that we are required to do that.
[52:08] I'm not going to do that. I will let the town identify him according to the statute.
[52:15] With that being said, his specific intent was for us to use that money towards our body cameras.
[52:22] As I mentioned a few weeks ago, this donation would pretty much cover us in year one of the five year agreement that we have presented as a warrant article to the voters.
[52:42] Jim, if this were an article, does not cap, did not cap to this, or in subsequent years,
[52:49] is that isn't it simply to leave that with you until such time as it made to us,
[52:56] or other monies become available?
[52:58] Honestly, we did not discuss that contingency at all.
[53:08] Well, again speaking only for myself, like I wonder if we might want to do that.
[53:14] Just so, for his sake, we can't count on the war and article, and I think even with his generous report, and I, you know, again, can only for myself, I think it should be mentioned to many of the possibilities there are.
[53:33] The money could be held as the donation in that scroll until such time as money became available to our article.
[53:42] But I don't know, I don't know, I don't know the quality of the other board members here.
[53:48] Mr. Chairman, I haven't happened to have dealt with a similar situation in another town.
[53:57] And the issue came up if a donation is given, and in a situation like this that you mentioned,
[54:03] can we return it? And the law says no, they must donate without the, you know,
[54:10] money to not be returned. So, if you created a motion to accept, I would add the language
[54:18] like you would just talking about, pending approval of, you know, a time, needing approval
[54:23] of the rest of the war and something of that nature. And I think we could, it needed to be returned.
[54:29] We could do it.
[54:33] Thoughts from the other board members?
[54:37] Well, my only comment would be, as well, it can make sense that the wording is in there
[54:42] probably at least because I would not want gentlemen to donate such a large sum of money
[54:48] true.
[54:50] And for it not to be able to do not have to be able to use what is purpose was without
[55:00] us being able to return it to them.
[55:04] But what I would propose is before we take any action on it tonight, I can revisit the issue with the gentleman in player 5, the specific language that he would like to apply to that donation if that's acceptable for the board.
[55:41] Okay, Chief, that seems to be the sense of the board, why don't you go ahead and clarify, with the donor and Peter, he thinks what his approval done Peter, he grabbed the appropriate language.
[55:58] Okay, we plan to revisit this on April 5th, but that's like meeting?
[56:06] Yes.
[56:07] Yeah.
[56:10] Okay.
[56:12] Anything else?
[56:12] I'm sorry, Jim.
[56:14] I'm sorry, Chief.
[56:15] I think it's a no meeting that I believe it's a second third Monday that it's of that of April.
[56:25] I'm looking.
[56:25] I get it.
[56:25] Well, I get it from the town web page.
[56:27] Okay, well let's put it this way the next meeting and I'll go over that tomorrow, but I believe that you know
[56:35] Capeboro
[56:36] Let's see the next meeting I believe is April 19th
[56:41] We cancel the fifth.
[56:47] All right, thank you very much
[56:49] And I have to have a motion
[56:52] I'll make them all into close the public hearing. Do I have a second?
[56:58] I can
[57:00] All those in favor, Karen.
[57:16] That's the February 17th.
[57:18] We have changes, corrections, amendments, so.
[57:26] I just have one change of page three.
[57:30] Go ahead.
[57:31] And just say, I don't know before, the second sentence
[57:37] says there is so section for kind of your budget.
[57:41] That should just be there, is no, no.
[57:44] Thank you.
[57:48] David, do you have things that are other than grammar or notes that was out of all of
[57:53] all of a sudden?
[57:56] Okay.
[57:58] I would have an opportunity to look up the public's minutes of February 17th.
[58:05] Okay, the most is that public minutes of February 17th, as amended, I would say that.
[58:12] On those in favor, Karen?
[58:15] Yes.
[58:17] Yes.
[58:18] David?
[58:19] Yes.
[58:22] Are there any changes or amendments to the non-public
[58:25] Humanities?
[58:26] If there are, we'll do that in non-public.
[58:29] On this in grammatical or spelling.
[58:41] On this, you have to understand a motion to accept.
[58:43] Now, it's submitted.
[58:46] I'll make a motion to accept the non-public minutes
[58:48] to accept what they said in these as submitted.
[58:51] We have a second.
[58:53] Okay, get it.
[58:57] Joe, got it.
[59:00] Well.
[59:01] Okay.
[59:03] Okay.
[59:04] The next new business I did a bit of a flip update on your two-day expenditure, then,
[59:09] to revenue.
[59:10] Yes, it's not a lot to talk about.
[59:11] Other than the fact that I wanted you to have this report, in case we had any concerns,
[59:17] the worries or reasons about it, any of the budget spending.
[59:20] It's really in line as everybody's instructed to do.
[59:24] With the comparable spending at this time last year,
[59:27] and we're keeping a very close watch, the Department
[59:30] has been very prudent with this spending.
[59:36] And we're waiting a way, a bucket of approval and June,
[59:40] to carry out some of the projects.
[59:42] We did have some road money in there that's
[59:47] It was in comfort, you know, so we can go ahead and use that, but everything else is going along.
[59:53] Well, the revenues are surprisingly good.
[59:56] Again, the town's large offices are right up there.
[1:00:00] There with last year at this time, and it's almost a quarter of $1,000 already in revenues from
[1:00:06] tax registration. So that's looking good. Along with a building development, two stars about
[1:00:12] revenue fees last year are also a great step this year. So that's my report. And come approval of the budget. I'll be able to show, of course,
[1:00:23] the budget, and then you'll have the comparison of what's left and what was right now, all I can put down is what was spent.
[1:00:29] and you can't compare it to what was approved, yeah, so that's difficult but I wanted you to know what's being spent anyway.
[1:00:38] Thank you.
[1:00:39] Peter, do you have, um, you have item 7 and 8 and you have, you've got a little bit of a 40 documentate.
[1:00:46] We've already talked about that.
[1:00:48] Right, right.
[1:00:50] Yeah.
[1:00:50] Yeah, I mean, there's nothing really to add, I just wanted to keep you up to date on a couple of the things
[1:00:57] and my own report, it wasn't a very lengthy one, but I did attach my mid-meeting report,
[1:01:03] which was, uh, lengthy, I think it went a page and a half or something, which really
[1:01:07] brought you up to date on a lot of the issues, uh, there's really nothing much to add to any of that.
[1:01:12] So, yes, thank you.
[1:01:15] question to comment on either item 7 and 8.
[1:01:25] I don't know questions but I would like to make note on item number 5.
[1:01:32] We did not have in our work the non-cublished minutes of February 24.
[1:01:41] Okay, we're still still putting that together.
[1:01:47] I think at the public 17, there are parents who have that right here.
[1:01:53] We did the non-public of the 17, oh no, oh the 17, you're right, the 17th, maybe, Karen.
[1:01:59] How we just did them 24 years ago.
[1:02:03] So, was there not a do of all TV minutes from February to May to May?
[1:02:07] Okay.
[1:02:09] All right.
[1:02:09] No.
[1:02:10] I did that Karen.
[1:02:11] I simply went through the 17th, so the 24th will be what's coming.
[1:02:17] The LD is the LD-closed NDS.
[1:02:20] Okay.
[1:02:20] It's like one's report, look, I have something that conforms to that, if not, it's a letter
[1:02:25] with its force, it's either, you don't have a packet, and I'd ask that you get it to you,
[1:02:30] who is possible.
[1:02:31] And you know that, during a year ago, we have worked on getting a contract, and you've
[1:02:39] on the town for it to protect in perpetuity.
[1:02:44] So it would be sugar and for it, which is that location.
[1:02:50] If we were to go down and then we were camped, rock and roll,
[1:02:54] it would be off here right now, okay.
[1:02:57] It's a fairly small part of that one that has been
[1:03:02] irrigated for E.D. milk and the documents are being prepared.
[1:03:05] Now, when we did this, it came up that from the approximately 10 years ago, it's many
[1:03:14] 10 years ago.
[1:03:16] There's a electoral made in the agreement with friends with our campfront to allow them
[1:03:22] to, or to construct a cardboard, white thing, and in terms of that, it's similar to
[1:03:32] I can't look at the board for the butt structure.
[1:03:37] They get a place above the generous maybe five to six hundred square meters.
[1:03:44] And what the cover is for is for the reasonable material from the campground.
[1:03:51] This actually fits on our land,
[1:03:57] in return the campground that houses the ends for their recycling, all of which go to the
[1:04:06] top of the transfer station, which the plastic in the metal and the cardboard, or Jerry
[1:04:15] terms into that. Now, the issue here becomes that, with a conservation easement, you can't
[1:04:24] do that. There can't be another entity using the tongue's land.
[1:04:33] It includes,
[1:04:39] well, there's
[1:04:45] a little bit of blackness and a little bit of air bottom. And the revenue was the last decade
[1:04:50] from the recyclable from the town to the town, to the town. What we can do simply remove
[1:04:58] the footage from the easement. That doesn't mean the town loses land or seems to land or anything
[1:05:05] out. It just removes it in the conservation easement. Okay? At some point in the future, the town
[1:05:12] have them to do whatever it likes with that, get it out, move it out, whatever.
[1:05:18] But there is a letter and a Peter can form it to a good supporting documentation coming
[1:05:24] from the Forestry Committee that I would have to look at.
[1:05:30] And the March 24th, the Forestry Committee will be meeting with representatives from the
[1:05:37] the contribution committee, the handball, the easement, issues.
[1:05:44] I would like to get your feeling this issue.
[1:05:48] If that is a workable solution to this,
[1:05:52] when the fever is going to go to the neighbor,
[1:05:55] they've revenue in a spot to the town
[1:05:57] and we don't lose anything with it.
[1:06:01] However, the board is in the minority rules,
[1:06:04] but I believe you feel,
[1:06:05] but when you get the time attrition
[1:06:07] of that YouTube just look at it and give me an either call, email, whatever your life, as far as direction.
[1:06:17] That's all I have for a report.
[1:06:19] Other than with the phone to be locked and soon to jump from a lot, we're marking for a timber,
[1:06:28] but certain timbers there that need to be cut for conservation and maturity purposes.
[1:06:34] and that we've done marketing on the summer to be a lot, got some luck,
[1:06:44] how did
[1:06:44] it fly from three-four, a carol?
[1:06:50] The only thing I have to report is that we have the top-coming road committee meeting on the 24th,
[1:06:57] and I believe there'll be a lot of discussion over month again, and we have different
[1:07:07] We're trying to come up with different strategies on how to organize and set up a maintenance
[1:07:14] schedule and confirm that with Alan Brown, what we can all be on the same page.
[1:07:23] That's about it.
[1:07:24] Thank you. David, I just hope you have a planning board on the planning board meeting
[1:07:29] on the 23rd and application. It's like that e-ghost myth, recalibularism, looking
[1:07:35] to the decision on to their warehouse and then that property out along just the Hillwood,
[1:07:43] you know, to instruct a general office building.
[1:07:49] Thank you. Second public forum, Peter, do you have anything?
[1:07:55] Okay, Peter, do you have a week for a not-other?
[1:08:00] Yes, we do have an on-topic request and by David in myself.
[1:08:07] Okay, so then I will make a motion to go to that public for RSA-91-A.
[1:08:14] I'm sorry, call them three.
[1:08:16] Well, the new rule to section day and day leave a little personalized.
[1:08:25] Okay, we don't have any public announcement after that in this tournament, so this will be your confidential number.
[1:08:34] Okay, give it.
[1:08:45] Peter, go ahead, please.