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>> Welcome to the regular

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bonfils Commission Planning

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Commission meeting. We are a

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nine-member commission

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appointed by City Council. To

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make recommendations on a

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variety of zoning land use and

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development related requests.

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Please do to provide comments

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during the allotted time.

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We're citizens communications

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or for an item posted on the

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agenda, all individuals or as

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to sign in. If you have not

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done so, please do at the

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table. Located on the entrance

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home. I think request that

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cellphones be turned off and

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other electronic devices in

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this year on call, emergency

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personnel. Could we have a

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roll call, please victory.

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>> Commissioner Nulty.

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Commissioner here Commissioner

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Talen Commissioner Mathis hear

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Commissioner Alan.

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Commissioner Henry here, vice

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chair. Also here. Chair and

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commissioner Breezier.

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>> We have a motion for the

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approval of last month's

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minutes. Motion to approve the

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minutes as written. Motion and

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second all in favor. All

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opposed. Motion carries. This

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time. It's for persons to

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address the planning

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Commission any items. Our

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issues not on the agenda is a

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violation of the Texas Open

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Meetings Act. For the

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commission to address, discuss

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or take action on any night

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items, not on the agenda. Each

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speaker is limited to 3

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minutes and must state their

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name and whether they are

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resin. New Braunfels. Anyone

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who wishes to speak on items,

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items the agenda. Mason do so.

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Now. Who have anyone that

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would like to speak items, not

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on the agenda. Seeing none.

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Move on to the individual

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items. I will announce the

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request. Our Steph City staff

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will present a summary of the

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case and will answer any

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questions asked by the

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commissioners. The applicant

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or agent would be allowed to

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come forward and have a kid

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for their request. Will open

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the public hearing and people

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will have 3 minutes to speak

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on each item. And there will

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be a total of 30 minutes. For

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all speakers. We'll close the

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public caring for a discussion

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of potential First item is c s

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to 6 0, 2, 7, 8, public

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hearing in consideration

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request by League Enterprises

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incorporated for an appeal

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section. 1, 4 Dash 5 do it to

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2. Non-residential Inman,

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multifamily design standards.

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To allow for a deviation from

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the articulation requirements.

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For a proposed out on field

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dealership. And 2, 3, 8, age.

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35 south and this e 3

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commercial district. Colton

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the floor, Thank you, MISTER

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Chair and Good evening.

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Commissioners School to Barker

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with the brothels neighborhood

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community planning.

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>> The first item this evening

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is an appeal to the city's

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building design standards,

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particularly as they relate to

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or is on office and

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articulation for proposed

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dealership redevelopment

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along. I-35. This is the first

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appeal of this type to come

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before the planning commission

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since the 2021 zoning Code

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amendments signed this review

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authority. Salute also mean a

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little the subject property

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this evening is just under 5

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acres France. The ice. 35

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access road as well as McCain

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Mcqueeney Road to the East.

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>> The property is located

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within Lucy, 3 commercial

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district adjacent properties

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on the Southside of 35 are

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also see 3 in commercially

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developed. No zoning changes

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or land use modifications are

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associated with this request.

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These photos show the current

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site conditions. The applicant

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intends to demolish the vacant

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dealership building and

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redevelop the property with a

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new dealership and continue

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its established use. The

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request before you is limited

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to a single building design

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element and does not affect

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any other site development

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standards that the development

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is required. As a few more

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slides here. Of the property.

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Under the city's

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non-residential design

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standards, large commercial

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buildings must include among

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other elements, horizontal

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facade, articulation These are

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perpendicular offsets intended

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to reduce long, flat exterior

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walls and introduce a visual

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interest in building design.

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The ordinance establishes 3

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main requirements when it

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comes to horizontally.

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Articulation. There's a

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maximum distance, a walk and

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run before an offset is

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required. Each offset must be

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at least a certain death based

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on the building's height. Off

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said let's run a minimum

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length along the facade based

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on the total facade length.

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These requirements are adopted

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by the city to help prevent

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overly monolithic commercial

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structures and to reinforce

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appealing building designed

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for the community. This

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elevation provided by the

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applicant shows the codes

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required offset depth at the

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top and the proposed depth at

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the bottom. The building needs

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the spacing in length

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standards, but the offset

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depth is less than required.

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It's like math on this one.

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But the slide summarizes how

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the proposed showroom facade

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compares to the articulation

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standards listed in the

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ordinance. Both the maximum

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distance between offsets and

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the minimum offset length,

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comply with the code. The

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applicant provides offsets at

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the appropriate intervals and

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each off said is long enough

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to meet the required

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percentage. The only standard

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that does not comply as the

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minimum offset depth. The

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ordinance requires an offset

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death based on 15% of the

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buildings. Average height.

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Well, the proposed design

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provides a shallower depth.

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This appeal solely focuses on

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the difference in that death

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and all of the year to

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collection requirements are

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meeting their standards. Staff

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is recommending approval of

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the appeal to allow an offset

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depth of one foot, 6 inches in

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place of the required 3 foot,

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3 inches. The project appears

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to me all other articulation

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standards and the reduced

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still supports the ordinance

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is a 10 intend and the

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dealerships brand design. In

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the context of I-35 the

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shallower offset does not

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appear to affect the

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building's visual character.

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The request concerns only

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offset death and appears to

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have little to no impacts on

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the adjacent properties. I'm

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happy to answer any questions

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you MAY have for staff and I

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believe MR. Started in his

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design team are here. If you

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have any questions for them as

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well. Any questions

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commission?

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>> I'm just curious with the

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in-depth. Co that you all have

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the ordinance right now is or

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reason why they all have that

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particular deaths.

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>> I believe that peace was

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adopted back some of the

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bigger box stores were coming

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into town. And so that was

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adopted by the city council at

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that time to kind of offset.

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MAY have come in as a big,

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flat building just as an

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attempt to mix it up a little

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bit and have some visual

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variance and use those big

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buildings.

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>> With this request with the

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variants are having all

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consider re. Looking at that

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>> Yes, ma'am. Yeah. Believe

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we're looking at that as a

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part of the lbo project there.

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We're incorporating those

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building design elements into

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those to be a little bit more

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flexible with business

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partners. Okay. Thank you.

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>> In this kind of situation,

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does deviation does it

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attached to the project

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attached to the property.

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There's a good question. It's

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the building just to build

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Jose living. So if this got

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sold next week, this deviation

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is applied. And correct. Okay,

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Yeah, it would be just for

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what's being requested on this

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particular building for this

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particular project. Okay.

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Thank you, sir. If you In

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other words, it.

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>> Would still apply if they

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keep the building when it sold

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and if they tore down the back

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to the original correct.

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>> And just to clarify, this

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is not a zoning change in any

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way. That's correct.

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>> It's been. Thank you

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>> applicant is here would

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like to speak. They do your

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name and weather is in West

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entered resident representing

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Kaylee going prizes Bluebonnet

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swing we agree with the

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staff's position. Thank you.

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On this picture. What

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Volkswagen is requiring is

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what they call the white

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frame. That is around the

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entrance. One of them says

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Bluebonnet on at the other

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one. You see a Volkswagen

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insignia and they pre

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fabricate these. So this isn't

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our design. It's the design of

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Volkswagen nationwide saying

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here's what we want the front

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white frame to be behind the

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white frame is glass. So it

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has that depth perception

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because you're going to see

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right through into the

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building. So even though it's

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one feet, 9 inches instead the

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required 3 feet, 3 inches.

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It's going to feel like it's a

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lot deeper because it's all

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glass behind it. And so we're

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just advocating for that. The

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rest of the building, which is

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to my left up there, the gray

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portion has articulation.

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That's the shop. We really

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don't want to tear down our

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existing Jeep story. We think

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it's beautiful but full so I

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can will not let issues that I

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say. If you want the franchise

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in New Braunfels, you have to

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build this white frame. Look,

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and we're going to provide

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with you. It's not our

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architect to design. Did its

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pulse wagon. They're

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corporation saying this is

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what it has to be. So that's

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when we come to this space. Be

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happy to answer any questions.

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Commissioners, any questions?

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>> What's the timeline on this

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project?

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>> Well, we're just waiting

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for see permitting right we're

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all so it ready for us to go

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and they take We're ready to

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go. Okay. Yeah.

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>> Just as the comment seems

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like like you pointing out

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that the glass next

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articulation. The reason for

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that articulation kind of

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knowledge void because you've

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got plenty of. Break up in

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Last night and the design

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itself.

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Yet not to buy to be

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the top on. I don't know,

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Sean, if he's the architect so

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he can tell you that my

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expectation is it's that Good

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evening. My name shall well as

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with backing architecture, I

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do resident Braunfels.

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>> What you see the top

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elevation there. The shop

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side. The great piece with the

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couple bought about that's

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what that will be. But then

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the showroom piece on the

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bottom with the green will be

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is what we're proposing for

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the show. So it kind of going

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to be competition. Both that

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makes.

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>> So no articulation on the

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gray Raj portion saying I'm

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sorry. Which recommending is

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that long. Gray area does not

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have articulation.

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>> No, we are going to add

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articulation to the long gray

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area as a shoal in the top. O

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ur. We yes. You want to

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clarify what?

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>> Yeah. As I'm hearing it

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sounds like when we made this

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exhibit to articulate does.

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Horizontal articulation,

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perhaps they got a little

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mixed in these 2 exhibits. But

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what I'm hearing is that the

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gray portion of top reflects

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accurately and the white

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portion on the bottom reflects

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accurately. That's great.

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>> He that this is a public

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hearing. Anyone late to come

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forward and speak for anyone

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like to come forward and

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speaking in says? Seeing none.

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We'll close the public airing

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commissioners. Any discussion

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or

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>> I make a motion to approve

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second. Motion and second.

386
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>> All in favor. Aye. All

387
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opposed. Motion carries.

388
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>> It's up to 6 dash, 2, 5, 6,

389
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Public hearing and

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recommendation to City Council

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requested by communities are

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operating limited partnership.

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On behalf of sons, Silver Star

394
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llc. The be a son retreats,

395
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Texas Hill country to rezone

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approximately 11.4, 4 acres.

397
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One of the Yogi Bear

398
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Jellystone Park Block one lot

399
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too. From c 3 commercial

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district, 2 c 3 commercial

401
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district special use overlay

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to allow manufactured homes

403
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currently utterance that one

404
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for one Mary the

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>> Good evening, chair and

406
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commissioners, Mary level with

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neighborhood in community

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planning the subject. Property

409
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consists of approximately 11.4

410
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4 acres located along the east

411
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side of Wrigley Road, roughly

412
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one quarter mile from the

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interstate. Surrounding zoning

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districts include apd him to a

415
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mu bc 3 c one bn are too. And

416
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that's a mixture of commercial

417
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industrial and agricultural

418
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development. And it also has a

419
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mixture of residential

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commercial and undeveloped

421
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parcels for the land uses that

422
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are surrounding it. The

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current use of the property is

424
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an rv park manufactured homes

425
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were. Previously allowed with

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nbc 3 district and until 2012

427
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when an amendment code

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amendment removed.

429
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>> The allowance of

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manufactured homes from to see

431
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3 district earlier this year

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when the applicant was in the

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process of permitting and

434
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locating the 10, 10 new mobile

435
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homes. Excuse me, manufactured

436
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homes on the lot. City staff

437
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notified the applicant that

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the men you've actually homes

439
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were not allowed anymore. And

440
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they have lost their non

441
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conformed legal nonconforming

442
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use because the previous units

443
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were removed. And it had been

444
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longer than 12 months. To

445
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retain the units and proceed

446
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with permitting. The applicant

447
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is now seeking a rezoning to

448
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see 3 s up with a special use

449
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overlay to allow manufactured

450
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homes on the property which

451
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would maintain the uses

452
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currently allowed under the

453
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Sea. 3 zoning and also at that

454
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one use of manufactured homes

455
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as an additional approved use.

456
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Approval of this rezoning

457
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request would legalize the

458
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manufactured homes that have

459
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been recently placed on the

460
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property and allow their

461
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continued permitting. A denial

462
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of the request would require

463
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the removal of the

464
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manufactured homes. The

465
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request would not be

466
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consistent with following

467
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actions of Envision New

468
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Braunfels Action. 1.5, which

469
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is promote economic centers by

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ensuring adequate parking for

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people visiting businesses,

472
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restaurants and shops action.

473
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1.8 is to concentrate future

474
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investment in industry and

475
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employment centers along the

476
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I-35 corridor and action. 1.1

477
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1, which is you know, update

478
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our policy in codes to achieve

479
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development patterns of this

480
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plant. Goal of plan and also

481
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balance commercial centers

482
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with stable neighborhoods. On

483
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the other hand, the request

484
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would be consistent with many

485
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of the housing supportive

486
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actions in Envision New

487
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Braunfels. And I've listen up.

488
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You here on this on the slide.

489
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Staff recommends denial

490
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envision New Braunfels

491
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emphasize the emphasizes

492
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preserving commercial uses

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within the c 3 zoning District

494
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and commission commercial

495
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corridors. If the commission

496
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is inclined to approve the

497
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rezoning staff does recommend

498
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a few conditions that are in

499
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the staff report. Couldn't

500
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read them here. A maximum of

501
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10 manufactured homes allowed

502
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on the property, a screening

503
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would be required along any

504
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street frontage. And all homes

505
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must comply with Appendix b,

506
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which it are some code

507
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regulations and development

508
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standards for I'm a veteran

509
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home communities. Public note

510
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of notification included

511
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mailing notices to 19 property

512
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owners and staff received 3

513
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responses and paper which

514
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comprised 58% of the

515
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notification area. And there

516
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were of these response carts,

517
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it back in opposition. A super

518
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majority vote is not required

519
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for approval. A petition was

520
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email to staff after the

521
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agenda was posted that did not

522
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have any property owners

523
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addresses. Therefore, it was

524
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unclear if any of those

525
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individual signing or

526
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digitally signing that

527
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petition. We're within this

528
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200 that notification buffer

529
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area. Thus in staff's

530
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presentation. And I'm here to

531
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answer any questions you MAY

532
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have for staff and the

533
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applicant is here, too. Make a

534
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presentation. I got a quick

535
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question.

536
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>> When your notification that

537
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you see 2 of 5, they were they

538
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were in favor of this tomb,

539
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those property. It is the

540
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applicant's, the owner of the

541
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property. Thank you.

542
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>> What was the notification

543
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that you received without the

544
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addresses and names of people?

545
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>> It was e-mailed to the

546
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planning commissioners. And I

547
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have a copy of it here. It's

548
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it's a Something called a jot

549
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for and maybe something that

550
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gets sent out to various email

551
00:19:28,963 --> 00:19:31,363
addresses. And then if

552
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somebody wants to. Acknowledge

553
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there, you know, decision they

554
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respond and it just has names

555
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and emails.

556
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>> With that sent and he was

557
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sent to Yes, in email. But it

558
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wasn't written from anybody It

559
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has p a it has names on it. I

560
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think I counted about 101 or 2

561
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names in opposition of it in

562
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opposition.

563
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>> So I think you names and

564
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emails on there. But he said

565
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there was no physical address.

566
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We can verify that they within

567
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the notification area. That is

568
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correct. Commissioner about

569
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But So if was a neighborhood

570
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behind the properties time

571
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Dolly and Douglas Fir came

572
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from there. But they recite a

573
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notation to correct.

574
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>> Some of them were there are

575
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some properties that receive

576
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notification cards in the

577
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mail. But none of those were

578
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returned.

579
00:20:31,498 --> 00:20:32,564
>> There's obviously not 100

580
00:20:32,564 --> 00:20:33,264
people in the notification

581
00:20:33,264 --> 00:20:36,864
area. So it stands to reason

582
00:20:37,265 --> 00:20:39,531
they can consider that.

583
00:20:39,531 --> 00:20:40,431
Weather situation purposes

584
00:20:40,431 --> 00:20:41,198
that they're not in nation,

585
00:20:41,198 --> 00:20:42,631
right? For the most part. I

586
00:20:42,631 --> 00:20:43,298
just can't confirm that. It's

587
00:20:43,298 --> 00:20:45,698
the neighborhoods that are

588
00:20:46,864 --> 00:20:48,798
shown on this map.

589
00:20:48,798 --> 00:20:49,831
>> I haven't really, but we

590
00:20:49,831 --> 00:20:50,431
didn't use a but we do need to

591
00:20:50,431 --> 00:20:51,131
consider. We do need to

592
00:20:51,131 --> 00:20:53,531
consider could possibly come

593
00:20:54,310 --> 00:20:54,765
from the neighborhood behind

594
00:20:54,765 --> 00:20:56,998
absent that we have to respect

595
00:20:56,998 --> 00:20:58,798
that. So 2 things, one, if you

596
00:20:58,798 --> 00:20:59,498
read at the very last page of

597
00:20:59,498 --> 00:21:00,931
that petition that was sent,

598
00:21:00,931 --> 00:21:02,650
there are comments from the

599
00:21:02,650 --> 00:21:03,865
signers on there. A lot of

600
00:21:03,865 --> 00:21:05,898
them reference the name of the

601
00:21:05,898 --> 00:21:06,998
neighborhood that they are

602
00:21:06,998 --> 00:21:08,650
from every day. And that's

603
00:21:08,650 --> 00:21:09,165
yes, that immediate area. So

604
00:21:09,165 --> 00:21:11,650
some of them, at least in

605
00:21:11,650 --> 00:21:13,650
their comments does at least

606
00:21:13,650 --> 00:21:14,980
see it. It's Highland Group

607
00:21:14,980 --> 00:21:16,498
anecdotally say that they're

608
00:21:16,698 --> 00:21:17,565
from there. But very if you

609
00:21:17,565 --> 00:21:18,232
could, could you just 4 maybe

610
00:21:18,232 --> 00:21:20,598
even just me personally, he

611
00:21:20,598 --> 00:21:21,332
back up and kind of just maybe

612
00:21:21,332 --> 00:21:24,332
try to best of your knowledge.

613
00:21:24,332 --> 00:21:25,320
Explain why city removed the

614
00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:27,265
manufactured homes from c 3.

615
00:21:27,265 --> 00:21:27,565
And what was the purpose for

616
00:21:27,565 --> 00:21:28,599
that?

617
00:21:28,599 --> 00:21:30,599
>> That occurred in 2 2020 12.

618
00:21:31,650 --> 00:21:32,832
And I don't know if anybody

619
00:21:32,832 --> 00:21:34,832
here might have

620
00:21:36,765 --> 00:21:37,799
>> exactly. That's

621
00:21:37,799 --> 00:21:40,799
>> I don't think any of us

622
00:21:40,799 --> 00:21:41,532
were here at that My

623
00:21:41,532 --> 00:21:44,965
assumption one just or I guess

624
00:21:44,965 --> 00:21:47,732
would be that and c 3 is a

625
00:21:47,732 --> 00:21:49,999
commercial district. It was

626
00:21:49,999 --> 00:21:50,566
expected that commercial use

627
00:21:50,566 --> 00:21:51,399
was was the preferred

628
00:21:51,399 --> 00:21:54,399
development height in that in

629
00:21:55,232 --> 00:21:56,533
that district?

630
00:21:56,533 --> 00:21:58,933
>> It MAY have coincided with

631
00:21:58,933 --> 00:21:59,636
a new district that only

632
00:21:59,636 --> 00:22:02,360
allowed manufactured homes as

633
00:22:02,199 --> 00:22:05,330
well. So maybe they were. The

634
00:22:05,330 --> 00:22:05,766
intent was to remove it from

635
00:22:05,766 --> 00:22:08,766
other zoning districts in just

636
00:22:10,599 --> 00:22:11,933
allow them in a certain.

637
00:22:11,933 --> 00:22:14,933
>> There MAY have been some

638
00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:18,533
changes in state law time. And

639
00:22:18,533 --> 00:22:20,533
eventually brings the

640
00:22:21,300 --> 00:22:24,300
>> Yeah, I apologize. I I

641
00:22:25,533 --> 00:22:27,667
isn't this a It is an rv park.

642
00:22:27,667 --> 00:22:31,833
It's just an park. It's not a

643
00:22:31,833 --> 00:22:32,467
jelly resort. I will let the

644
00:22:32,467 --> 00:22:35,133
applicant MAY be till the

645
00:22:35,133 --> 00:22:38,733
history of what type of uses.

646
00:22:40,267 --> 00:22:41,367
>> They've had in the past.

647
00:22:41,367 --> 00:22:43,233
Any other questions? I So how

648
00:22:43,233 --> 00:22:43,900
many current manufactured

649
00:22:43,900 --> 00:22:46,900
homes are on the property

650
00:22:47,734 --> 00:22:48,900
right now There's 10.

651
00:22:48,900 --> 00:22:49,700
>> There's And how much land

652
00:22:49,700 --> 00:22:52,700
is that incorporate in their

653
00:22:53,434 --> 00:22:54,700
property? You know?

654
00:22:54,700 --> 00:22:57,700
>> I would say that's almost

655
00:22:59,267 --> 00:23:02,267
12 acres. Less than an acre.

656
00:23:04,267 --> 00:23:06,367
>> Were they put on without?

657
00:23:06,367 --> 00:23:08,201
Where they put on recently,

658
00:23:08,201 --> 00:23:09,567
assuming that could use Yes,

659
00:23:09,567 --> 00:23:12,267
it was been there for a while.

660
00:23:12,267 --> 00:23:14,101
Those all were removed.

661
00:23:14,101 --> 00:23:15,134
>> So I think there was a

662
00:23:15,134 --> 00:23:17,340
disconnect in it was difficult

663
00:23:17,340 --> 00:23:17,701
for the applicant to

664
00:23:17,701 --> 00:23:19,334
understand when their legal

665
00:23:19,334 --> 00:23:21,734
nonconforming use was going.

666
00:23:24,340 --> 00:23:26,234
>> going to end and when they

667
00:23:26,234 --> 00:23:28,501
purchase these units to

668
00:23:28,501 --> 00:23:29,134
replace it took about a period

669
00:23:29,134 --> 00:23:30,434
of time and all that the

670
00:23:30,434 --> 00:23:33,434
applicant speak to that that

671
00:23:34,135 --> 00:23:34,968
MAY have been. But they're as

672
00:23:34,968 --> 00:23:37,368
a player nonconforming. They

673
00:23:37,701 --> 00:23:39,701
weren't place there.

674
00:23:39,968 --> 00:23:42,968
>> With approval of the city.

675
00:23:43,868 --> 00:23:44,835
There are some that. Through

676
00:23:44,835 --> 00:23:47,235
the permitting process that's

677
00:23:49,701 --> 00:23:50,301
very hard find out the date of

678
00:23:50,301 --> 00:23:51,100
illegal not come for me

679
00:23:51,100 --> 00:23:52,835
because we would have had to

680
00:23:52,835 --> 00:23:54,868
have that information when

681
00:23:54,868 --> 00:23:58,468
they were removed. And so when

682
00:23:59,668 --> 00:24:01,468
the applicant. A pursuit

683
00:24:01,468 --> 00:24:02,968
permitting, there were a

684
00:24:02,968 --> 00:24:05,968
couple, maybe 2 or 3 that were

685
00:24:07,350 --> 00:24:10,350
permitted at a later date,

686
00:24:10,702 --> 00:24:11,802
staff was notified that these

687
00:24:11,802 --> 00:24:13,735
were removed in. They lost

688
00:24:13,735 --> 00:24:15,735
their legal non-conforming

689
00:24:16,835 --> 00:24:18,690
status. So we had to kind of

690
00:24:18,690 --> 00:24:21,690
backtrack you know, notify the

691
00:24:21,869 --> 00:24:22,935
applicant in writing that the

692
00:24:22,935 --> 00:24:23,469
previous permits that were

693
00:24:23,469 --> 00:24:25,469
issued were issued

694
00:24:26,690 --> 00:24:28,802
incorrectly. And that's how we

695
00:24:28,802 --> 00:24:29,502
are here today.

696
00:24:29,502 --> 00:24:32,502
>> Thanks to the permits were

697
00:24:33,202 --> 00:24:34,536
issued. There permits issued.

698
00:24:34,536 --> 00:24:35,502
>> There were permits issued,

699
00:24:35,502 --> 00:24:38,502
but there's a revocation from

700
00:24:39,536 --> 00:24:40,236
the building official.

701
00:24:40,236 --> 00:24:41,700
>> That once it came to light

702
00:24:41,700 --> 00:24:43,669
that they lost their legal

703
00:24:43,669 --> 00:24:45,669
non-conforming status.

704
00:24:47,369 --> 00:24:48,102
>> Permits for sot initiated.

705
00:24:48,102 --> 00:24:51,270
Prior to these being placed up

706
00:24:51,270 --> 00:24:51,969
there.

707
00:24:51,969 --> 00:24:55,569
>> I don't know the timing of

708
00:24:56,360 --> 00:24:58,360
the locating that.

709
00:24:59,969 --> 00:25:00,703
>> Is manufactured housing

710
00:25:00,703 --> 00:25:01,403
allowed under any zoning right

711
00:25:01,403 --> 00:25:04,370
now in our city of aside from

712
00:25:04,370 --> 00:25:06,370
as up obviously.

713
00:25:07,336 --> 00:25:07,703
>> believe it's allowed in the

714
00:25:07,703 --> 00:25:08,370
b zones.

715
00:25:08,370 --> 00:25:10,937
>> Yes, it's it's a lot of

716
00:25:10,937 --> 00:25:11,603
multiple districts. I don't no

717
00:25:11,603 --> 00:25:15,203
those off of you know, they

718
00:25:18,169 --> 00:25:18,870
alone.

719
00:25:18,870 --> 00:25:19,603
>> Manufactured homes on the

720
00:25:19,603 --> 00:25:22,603
property right now. Yes, there

721
00:25:23,170 --> 00:25:23,903
is. There's 10 Okay.

722
00:25:23,903 --> 00:25:25,970
>> And are you are where's the

723
00:25:25,970 --> 00:25:26,637
city aware of any new laws

724
00:25:26,637 --> 00:25:29,370
coming from that you might

725
00:25:29,370 --> 00:25:32,270
later that would. Us to deny

726
00:25:32,270 --> 00:25:35,270
this. Or prohibit us from

727
00:25:35,370 --> 00:25:37,770
denying manufactured. I just

728
00:25:44,403 --> 00:25:46,803
want make sure. Happens.

729
00:25:47,804 --> 00:25:50,137
>> To that all 10 permanent.

730
00:25:50,137 --> 00:25:50,804
>> There were only 3 that I

731
00:25:50,804 --> 00:25:53,204
believe were issued permits

732
00:25:53,871 --> 00:25:54,537
that were later revoked by the

733
00:25:54,537 --> 00:25:55,204
building building official.

734
00:25:55,204 --> 00:25:58,804
They would have to move all

735
00:26:00,771 --> 00:26:01,404
10. They don't have a pathway

736
00:26:01,404 --> 00:26:04,404
to have been permitted as

737
00:26:14,370 --> 00:26:14,704
today. I guess maybe.

738
00:26:14,704 --> 00:26:15,437
>> I mean, it obviously has

739
00:26:15,437 --> 00:26:17,271
any questions. But here in the

740
00:26:17,271 --> 00:26:19,671
applicants. Nothing would be

741
00:26:20,704 --> 00:26:21,438
helpful, too.

742
00:26:21,438 --> 00:26:25,380
>> Yes, I'll go ahead and call

743
00:26:29,737 --> 00:26:30,904
them right now.

744
00:26:30,904 --> 00:26:33,904
>> You state your name and

745
00:26:34,205 --> 00:26:35,538
with your risen are non

746
00:26:35,538 --> 00:26:37,271
>> My name is Jamie. And here

747
00:26:37,271 --> 00:26:38,571
I am not a resident of New

748
00:26:38,571 --> 00:26:39,572
Braunfels and this has been

749
00:26:39,572 --> 00:26:40,605
currently with me. She is also

750
00:26:40,605 --> 00:26:43,371
not a resident New Braunfels

751
00:26:43,371 --> 00:26:44,390
representatives of the

752
00:26:44,390 --> 00:26:44,871
community. I do live in San

753
00:26:44,871 --> 00:26:47,871
Antonio, some at least semi

754
00:26:48,105 --> 00:26:48,772
close by Good Evening Chair

755
00:26:48,772 --> 00:26:51,772
Council, thank you for your

756
00:26:52,380 --> 00:26:52,972
time this evening. We want to

757
00:26:52,972 --> 00:26:53,705
discuss our plan to replace

758
00:26:53,705 --> 00:26:56,105
manufactured homes. It's under

759
00:26:57,500 --> 00:26:57,705
trees. Texas Hill Country. Our

760
00:26:57,705 --> 00:26:58,338
intent for the parcel is not

761
00:26:58,338 --> 00:27:01,172
to change anything in the

762
00:27:01,172 --> 00:27:01,739
approximate 11 acre parcel,

763
00:27:01,739 --> 00:27:02,438
rather, just replace

764
00:27:02,438 --> 00:27:04,172
manufactured homes that were

765
00:27:04,172 --> 00:27:05,639
previously on the property. At

766
00:27:05,639 --> 00:27:06,472
this time, we have no plans to

767
00:27:06,472 --> 00:27:08,439
add any new development that

768
00:27:08,439 --> 00:27:09,339
was not previously

769
00:27:09,339 --> 00:27:10,390
established. Our goal is just

770
00:27:10,390 --> 00:27:13,390
to restore previous used the

771
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:14,672
sites. As a real estate

772
00:27:14,672 --> 00:27:15,405
investment trust. We will

773
00:27:15,405 --> 00:27:16,106
maintain ownership of the land

774
00:27:16,106 --> 00:27:18,506
regardless of the individual

775
00:27:18,639 --> 00:27:19,339
homes located on the property.

776
00:27:19,339 --> 00:27:21,839
Our preferred approach is to

777
00:27:21,839 --> 00:27:22,872
enter these homes into our

778
00:27:22,872 --> 00:27:23,739
home rental program that

779
00:27:23,739 --> 00:27:25,339
provides a quality and

780
00:27:25,339 --> 00:27:25,939
affordable living space while

781
00:27:25,939 --> 00:27:27,390
maintaining consistent

782
00:27:27,390 --> 00:27:28,172
ownership and management of

783
00:27:28,172 --> 00:27:30,306
the property are home. Rental

784
00:27:30,306 --> 00:27:31,272
program includes a formal

785
00:27:31,272 --> 00:27:33,272
application and screening

786
00:27:33,272 --> 00:27:34,973
process for prospective

787
00:27:34,973 --> 00:27:35,739
occupants. This allows us to

788
00:27:35,739 --> 00:27:37,739
evaluate applicants ensure

789
00:27:38,730 --> 00:27:38,773
that the homes are occupied by

790
00:27:38,773 --> 00:27:40,773
qualified individuals meters.

791
00:27:42,273 --> 00:27:43,473
That was rental requirements.

792
00:27:43,473 --> 00:27:45,273
We also performed annual

793
00:27:45,273 --> 00:27:46,239
inspections to ensure units

794
00:27:46,239 --> 00:27:47,673
are maintained and all

795
00:27:47,673 --> 00:27:48,339
property standards are met.

796
00:27:48,339 --> 00:27:49,539
Ultimately, our goal is to

797
00:27:49,539 --> 00:27:50,140
responsibly maintain the

798
00:27:50,140 --> 00:27:50,773
property, preserve its

799
00:27:50,773 --> 00:27:52,700
character, replace homes

800
00:27:52,700 --> 00:27:52,706
without introducing a new or

801
00:27:52,706 --> 00:27:55,106
substantial different used to

802
00:27:56,906 --> 00:27:58,540
the parcel. So I guess like

803
00:27:58,540 --> 00:27:59,873
part of the what I would say,

804
00:27:59,873 --> 00:28:00,740
part of the misconception

805
00:28:00,740 --> 00:28:01,607
about this is that we want to

806
00:28:01,607 --> 00:28:04,700
change the entire 11 acre

807
00:28:04,507 --> 00:28:05,173
parcel. We do not. If you look

808
00:28:05,173 --> 00:28:08,307
at the photo that we have,

809
00:28:08,307 --> 00:28:09,307
this is an old photo and its

810
00:28:09,307 --> 00:28:10,673
right off the second street

811
00:28:10,673 --> 00:28:11,340
there. There's like 10 sites

812
00:28:11,340 --> 00:28:14,707
right there to the right of

813
00:28:14,707 --> 00:28:15,407
the Second Street. The mh

814
00:28:15,407 --> 00:28:16,107
homes were there in the past.

815
00:28:16,107 --> 00:28:17,407
We just want to we're put. We

816
00:28:17,407 --> 00:28:19,107
put them back, right? It just

817
00:28:19,107 --> 00:28:21,907
took a little bit longer than

818
00:28:21,907 --> 00:28:22,840
right there. Thank you for

819
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:24,840
ever We took a little bit

820
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:25,773
longer than we originally had

821
00:28:25,773 --> 00:28:28,640
planned or that we knew about

822
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,940
a year not conforming use. So

823
00:28:30,940 --> 00:28:32,400
we're not trying to take

824
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:33,973
everything out and turn the rv

825
00:28:33,973 --> 00:28:35,740
park into a manufactured

826
00:28:35,740 --> 00:28:36,140
housing community. We just

827
00:28:36,140 --> 00:28:36,907
want to provide a different

828
00:28:36,907 --> 00:28:39,907
rental option for our guests

829
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,407
to come. Enjoy our resort. So

830
00:28:46,407 --> 00:28:47,107
Sun is a company, I think is a

831
00:28:47,107 --> 00:28:47,807
good. It's important to talk

832
00:28:47,807 --> 00:28:50,507
about his U.S. As a company.

833
00:28:50,507 --> 00:28:51,141
We been around since 1975, you

834
00:28:51,141 --> 00:28:54,141
know, went New York Stock

835
00:28:55,507 --> 00:28:56,474
Exchange public in 1993. If

836
00:28:56,474 --> 00:28:57,474
450 best-in-class properties,

837
00:28:57,474 --> 00:28:58,341
we pride ourselves on being

838
00:28:58,341 --> 00:28:58,974
the nation's premier owner and

839
00:28:58,974 --> 00:29:00,974
operator of manufactured

840
00:29:01,408 --> 00:29:05,800
housing, an rv and rv resorts.

841
00:29:05,174 --> 00:29:07,774
You know, we have 16 in Texas,

842
00:29:07,774 --> 00:29:08,508
12 rv Resorts 12 rv resort

843
00:29:08,508 --> 00:29:09,141
sudden 16 manufactured housing

844
00:29:09,141 --> 00:29:11,375
communities with to a New

845
00:29:11,375 --> 00:29:12,750
Braunfels. So we do have a

846
00:29:12,750 --> 00:29:12,841
effective housing community.

847
00:29:12,841 --> 00:29:15,341
That's about 2 miles north of

848
00:29:15,341 --> 00:29:17,708
the subject. Property come

849
00:29:17,708 --> 00:29:18,541
out, farms and we bought

850
00:29:18,541 --> 00:29:20,208
Senator East country of

851
00:29:20,208 --> 00:29:20,875
mentioned Jellystone. It was

852
00:29:20,875 --> 00:29:23,875
jellystone in the past and

853
00:29:23,975 --> 00:29:24,575
sons Silver Star to a point

854
00:29:24,575 --> 00:29:25,274
we've gone through some

855
00:29:25,274 --> 00:29:26,108
changes corporate management

856
00:29:26,108 --> 00:29:28,508
re-branding. So that's what

857
00:29:28,875 --> 00:29:29,808
all the da's un names come

858
00:29:29,808 --> 00:29:33,408
from. But we purchased it in

859
00:29:34,175 --> 00:29:35,842
FEBRUARY 2016 285 sites and 52

860
00:29:35,842 --> 00:29:37,800
vacation rentals. The family

861
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:38,908
focus property with indoor

862
00:29:38,908 --> 00:29:39,608
outdoor pools, volleyball

863
00:29:39,608 --> 00:29:41,275
courts, extensive events and

864
00:29:41,275 --> 00:29:41,942
activities that we want to,

865
00:29:41,942 --> 00:29:44,375
you know, should provide a

866
00:29:44,375 --> 00:29:45,675
good time for our guests.

867
00:29:45,675 --> 00:29:46,875
We're also committed to local

868
00:29:46,875 --> 00:29:49,475
outreach and giving back. So

869
00:29:49,475 --> 00:29:51,542
we host annual event with Camp

870
00:29:51,542 --> 00:29:53,375
Quality usa can't quality

871
00:29:53,375 --> 00:29:55,375
provides outdoor hospitality

872
00:29:55,509 --> 00:29:56,475
camping for, you know,

873
00:29:56,475 --> 00:29:57,875
families that are impacted by

874
00:29:57,875 --> 00:29:58,609
children with cancer. So we

875
00:29:58,609 --> 00:30:01,642
provide once it once a year on

876
00:30:01,642 --> 00:30:03,709
Thanksgiving. We have a

877
00:30:03,709 --> 00:30:04,575
weekend unity with our son

878
00:30:04,575 --> 00:30:05,242
Unity program which is are

879
00:30:05,242 --> 00:30:07,109
giving back program that we

880
00:30:07,109 --> 00:30:09,976
invite these families to come

881
00:30:09,976 --> 00:30:11,142
enjoy are camped out for free

882
00:30:11,142 --> 00:30:11,809
in it sits next weekend. It's

883
00:30:11,809 --> 00:30:15,409
really good for the soul of

884
00:30:15,809 --> 00:30:16,909
been to a couple of them. So

885
00:30:16,909 --> 00:30:17,576
we want to go through our

886
00:30:17,576 --> 00:30:18,142
timeline a little bit. You

887
00:30:18,142 --> 00:30:18,742
know, I know that was

888
00:30:18,742 --> 00:30:21,142
something that was just

889
00:30:22,676 --> 00:30:24,376
brought up. In DECEMBER. 25 we

890
00:30:24,376 --> 00:30:25,576
had a meeting with city

891
00:30:25,576 --> 00:30:26,209
representatives presented our

892
00:30:26,209 --> 00:30:26,776
plan to replace the

893
00:30:26,776 --> 00:30:27,509
manufactured housing,

894
00:30:27,509 --> 00:30:29,909
manufactured homes are removed

895
00:30:30,643 --> 00:30:31,476
from the property. We did not

896
00:30:31,476 --> 00:30:34,776
order the homes until after we

897
00:30:34,776 --> 00:30:35,509
had that meeting. Right? So we

898
00:30:35,509 --> 00:30:38,509
thought there were no concerns

899
00:30:39,809 --> 00:30:40,543
raised in that meeting we were

900
00:30:40,543 --> 00:30:43,110
ok to order them because we're

901
00:30:43,110 --> 00:30:44,760
replacing right. There was I

902
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:46,760
think some representatives

903
00:30:46,843 --> 00:30:47,576
from net was at the and the

904
00:30:47,576 --> 00:30:49,676
you in New Braunfels utilities

905
00:30:49,676 --> 00:30:53,876
on the call. It was a team's

906
00:30:54,877 --> 00:30:55,576
call. Sorry, New Braunfels How

907
00:30:55,576 --> 00:30:57,430
General contractor who is in

908
00:30:57,430 --> 00:30:59,770
New Braunfels resident Adam

909
00:30:59,770 --> 00:31:00,376
Hatch and then his form and

910
00:31:00,376 --> 00:31:01,277
one couple representatives

911
00:31:01,277 --> 00:31:03,677
from signed the manager

912
00:31:04,310 --> 00:31:05,910
Michelle Guajardo Huzzah New

913
00:31:05,910 --> 00:31:08,310
Braunfels resident and The

914
00:31:08,877 --> 00:31:09,743
couple people from the city. I

915
00:31:09,743 --> 00:31:12,443
don't know the last name

916
00:31:12,443 --> 00:31:13,810
summer. Amanda were on the

917
00:31:13,810 --> 00:31:14,577
call and we were we were told

918
00:31:14,577 --> 00:31:16,543
that meeting that as long as

919
00:31:16,543 --> 00:31:17,577
we're replacing units, it was

920
00:31:17,577 --> 00:31:19,977
ok. So that was why we went

921
00:31:19,977 --> 00:31:22,977
ahead and ordered In APRIL.

922
00:31:23,100 --> 00:31:25,100
The homes began to arrive. We

923
00:31:25,100 --> 00:31:26,810
got our first permits and I

924
00:31:26,810 --> 00:31:27,510
think as mentioned, we got 3

925
00:31:27,510 --> 00:31:28,744
permits. One on MAY 28th one

926
00:31:28,744 --> 00:31:31,210
on JUNE 4th and one on JUNE

927
00:31:31,210 --> 00:31:32,510
24th and then on JULY, the

928
00:31:32,510 --> 00:31:35,510
permits revoked while we had

929
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:37,311
the other 7 in for review.

930
00:31:37,311 --> 00:31:38,110
Right? So we were we were not

931
00:31:38,110 --> 00:31:38,744
doing anything with the other

932
00:31:38,744 --> 00:31:41,311
3 were waiting for the permits

933
00:31:41,311 --> 00:31:44,144
to come in. We also had 4

934
00:31:44,144 --> 00:31:45,444
applications on these already.

935
00:31:45,444 --> 00:31:46,311
So we had to guess that we

936
00:31:46,311 --> 00:31:47,277
were just waiting for the

937
00:31:47,277 --> 00:31:48,211
final construction to be

938
00:31:48,211 --> 00:31:48,911
completed, but we are ready to

939
00:31:48,911 --> 00:31:51,678
move into these homes before

940
00:31:51,678 --> 00:31:52,411
we got the revocation. We 4

941
00:31:52,411 --> 00:31:56,110
locations to are denied to are

942
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:57,478
approved. So that we feel this

943
00:31:57,478 --> 00:31:58,211
was due to a timing

944
00:31:58,211 --> 00:31:58,844
technicality and not a

945
00:31:58,844 --> 00:32:00,780
substantial violation. We

946
00:32:00,780 --> 00:32:01,478
would have been within one

947
00:32:01,478 --> 00:32:02,211
year, we would have been fine.

948
00:32:02,211 --> 00:32:02,944
We would still had a

949
00:32:02,944 --> 00:32:05,944
non-conforming use for one. We

950
00:32:07,844 --> 00:32:08,545
remove them. This is the site

951
00:32:08,545 --> 00:32:10,445
plan. So this these time that

952
00:32:10,445 --> 00:32:14,345
we have here on the site's up

953
00:32:14,345 --> 00:32:15,110
in the front of the park. You

954
00:32:15,110 --> 00:32:15,611
know, that's the far end of

955
00:32:15,611 --> 00:32:17,278
the park away from the

956
00:32:17,278 --> 00:32:19,612
neighboring community in the

957
00:32:19,612 --> 00:32:20,311
back. It's right off the road.

958
00:32:20,311 --> 00:32:21,450
I think you said roughly sort

959
00:32:21,450 --> 00:32:23,411
of sat around 100 times today,

960
00:32:23,411 --> 00:32:24,112
but Rocky Road right off the

961
00:32:24,112 --> 00:32:26,578
front there. And then this is

962
00:32:26,578 --> 00:32:27,278
the floor plan and all this

963
00:32:27,278 --> 00:32:30,278
was presented at that meeting

964
00:32:31,412 --> 00:32:32,145
in DECEMBER. So very clearly

965
00:32:32,145 --> 00:32:35,145
it's a manufacturer House size

966
00:32:36,450 --> 00:32:37,178
in apartment size. We have

967
00:32:37,178 --> 00:32:37,878
some pictures. Obviously we've

968
00:32:37,878 --> 00:32:38,578
got some work to do. We

969
00:32:38,578 --> 00:32:41,912
stopped working as to when we

970
00:32:41,912 --> 00:32:42,679
got the revocation for her.

971
00:32:42,679 --> 00:32:43,712
The letter we stop that we've

972
00:32:43,712 --> 00:32:44,445
got landscaping work that will

973
00:32:44,445 --> 00:32:46,679
go in there and then finishing

974
00:32:46,679 --> 00:32:50,145
touch up. He says to to these

975
00:32:50,145 --> 00:32:52,120
homes. So there fantastic

976
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:53,212
looking one of the things that

977
00:32:53,212 --> 00:32:54,379
we love about these homes

978
00:32:54,379 --> 00:32:55,545
compared to our views as we

979
00:32:55,545 --> 00:32:56,379
have control over the look at

980
00:32:56,379 --> 00:32:57,912
right? Like we maintain the

981
00:32:57,912 --> 00:32:59,679
standards, we maintain the

982
00:32:59,679 --> 00:33:00,379
curb appeal the guest pulls in

983
00:33:00,379 --> 00:33:03,979
with an rv. It could look 10

984
00:33:05,946 --> 00:33:07,579
times worse than this. In

985
00:33:07,579 --> 00:33:08,279
conclusion like our thought

986
00:33:08,279 --> 00:33:08,979
process here is is really we

987
00:33:08,979 --> 00:33:11,346
just want to replace what we

988
00:33:11,346 --> 00:33:11,912
have these 10. We're not

989
00:33:11,912 --> 00:33:12,646
looking to change our

990
00:33:12,646 --> 00:33:14,912
business. We're not looking to

991
00:33:14,912 --> 00:33:15,512
change the entire parcel. We

992
00:33:15,512 --> 00:33:17,779
just want to be able to

993
00:33:17,779 --> 00:33:18,479
replace the time that we have

994
00:33:18,479 --> 00:33:19,379
and keep you and utilize that

995
00:33:19,379 --> 00:33:20,460
and that we have already put

996
00:33:20,460 --> 00:33:23,646
in. Thank you guys for your

997
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:26,313
time. Have a question.

998
00:33:26,313 --> 00:33:29,146
>> So you have the rv's which

999
00:33:29,146 --> 00:33:31,546
are short-term rentals, people

1000
00:33:31,746 --> 00:33:32,800
who come in to enjoy the

1001
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:32,880
resort.

1002
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:33,980
>> Yeah, I mean, it's of x,

1003
00:33:33,980 --> 00:33:34,680
right? We have people that

1004
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,213
like we have winter Texans to

1005
00:33:37,213 --> 00:33:38,246
come down and stay long term.

1006
00:33:38,246 --> 00:33:40,713
We have people that are

1007
00:33:40,713 --> 00:33:41,380
short-term campers weekend

1008
00:33:41,380 --> 00:33:43,946
week. It's a full max, but

1009
00:33:43,946 --> 00:33:45,130
it's not long-term permanent

1010
00:33:45,130 --> 00:33:45,713
rentals, not long-term

1011
00:33:45,713 --> 00:33:46,346
permanent rentals. I'd say we

1012
00:33:46,346 --> 00:33:47,447
don't have any long-term

1013
00:33:47,447 --> 00:33:49,847
permanent rentals and then.

1014
00:33:51,346 --> 00:33:52,800
>> Next to that, are these.

1015
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:54,480
Manufactured homes which are

1016
00:33:55,947 --> 00:33:56,647
long-term meant to be

1017
00:33:56,647 --> 00:33:58,647
long-term permanent rentals?

1018
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:00,147
Well, I think the way that we

1019
00:34:00,147 --> 00:34:00,847
would address that is say we

1020
00:34:00,847 --> 00:34:04,180
are a thought process is that

1021
00:34:04,180 --> 00:34:04,813
their monthly?

1022
00:34:04,813 --> 00:34:05,547
>> Right in their monthly

1023
00:34:05,547 --> 00:34:06,547
rentals, right? You could rent

1024
00:34:06,547 --> 00:34:08,580
it for a month. You could rent

1025
00:34:08,580 --> 00:34:10,180
defer to our preference would

1026
00:34:10,180 --> 00:34:13,180
be that are out housing.

1027
00:34:14,114 --> 00:34:14,780
People move into Technically,

1028
00:34:14,780 --> 00:34:15,680
yes, okay. And then on the

1029
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,800
other side of that.

1030
00:34:19,614 --> 00:34:20,314
>> Is the actual resort. In

1031
00:34:20,314 --> 00:34:23,314
the rv's, correct between the

1032
00:34:24,781 --> 00:34:25,447
rv's in the resort. Perez, you

1033
00:34:25,447 --> 00:34:27,681
are jealous. Know. A lot of

1034
00:34:27,681 --> 00:34:29,847
jelly stone longer sunrun

1035
00:34:29,847 --> 00:34:32,747
treats is our summer and a

1036
00:34:32,747 --> 00:34:34,514
cable says Joe Yeah. We like

1037
00:34:34,514 --> 00:34:35,614
be often used. Yeah, that's

1038
00:34:35,614 --> 00:34:36,315
that's kind of what I was

1039
00:34:36,315 --> 00:34:37,514
trying to say. This property

1040
00:34:37,514 --> 00:34:38,214
has been I mean, we bought it

1041
00:34:38,214 --> 00:34:39,948
in 2016. I think that it had

1042
00:34:39,948 --> 00:34:42,847
to owners prior to that and it

1043
00:34:42,847 --> 00:34:44,814
was a jellystone at one point.

1044
00:34:44,814 --> 00:34:45,548
And so we've rebranded it to

1045
00:34:45,548 --> 00:34:48,548
arson retreats model, which is

1046
00:34:48,814 --> 00:34:50,381
a more of like the community

1047
00:34:50,381 --> 00:34:51,115
rv park that we want to, you

1048
00:34:51,115 --> 00:34:51,848
know, bring people together to

1049
00:34:51,848 --> 00:34:54,848
enjoy the outdoor space, least

1050
00:34:56,181 --> 00:34:58,148
owns the name of the Yeah.

1051
00:34:58,148 --> 00:35:00,781
just led yes because it was at

1052
00:35:00,781 --> 00:35:04,615
one time a But it is a route

1053
00:35:04,615 --> 00:35:04,915
resort area on far side of

1054
00:35:04,915 --> 00:35:05,615
the.

1055
00:35:05,615 --> 00:35:06,348
>> So we've got rv's in these

1056
00:35:06,348 --> 00:35:09,348
manufactured homes and then at

1057
00:35:09,648 --> 00:35:11,248
a resort area and you have

1058
00:35:11,248 --> 00:35:11,948
cabins on that resort redo.

1059
00:35:11,948 --> 00:35:15,810
There are 52. And this is the

1060
00:35:15,810 --> 00:35:15,715
way that the park.

1061
00:35:15,715 --> 00:35:16,915
>> Did present itself and

1062
00:35:16,915 --> 00:35:17,615
operate for many years. Again,

1063
00:35:17,615 --> 00:35:20,150
there were manufactured homes

1064
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:20,782
there. This is not new.

1065
00:35:20,782 --> 00:35:24,115
>> And in our in our industry,

1066
00:35:24,115 --> 00:35:25,282
we have several communities

1067
00:35:25,282 --> 00:35:26,948
that we own that are hybrid.

1068
00:35:26,948 --> 00:35:27,615
That's what we consider

1069
00:35:27,615 --> 00:35:31,215
hybrids that work in the rv

1070
00:35:32,349 --> 00:35:33,582
and mh space. It's not

1071
00:35:33,582 --> 00:35:36,820
uncommon that are re used to

1072
00:35:36,820 --> 00:35:36,415
have. And short like weekend

1073
00:35:36,415 --> 00:35:37,115
cabins.

1074
00:35:37,115 --> 00:35:37,782
>> Yeah. For the most part, I

1075
00:35:37,782 --> 00:35:38,815
would say that we have some

1076
00:35:38,815 --> 00:35:40,882
people. It's a week to 10

1077
00:35:40,882 --> 00:35:43,882
days, ok, what their vacation

1078
00:35:45,716 --> 00:35:46,682
is, what plans? Meant to be a

1079
00:35:46,682 --> 00:35:47,349
vacation And I could clarify.

1080
00:35:47,349 --> 00:35:48,490
Commissioner, quick, do you

1081
00:35:48,490 --> 00:35:50,449
have yearlong residents live

1082
00:35:52,715 --> 00:35:53,449
in these? And these cabins

1083
00:35:53,449 --> 00:35:54,182
where manufactured homes

1084
00:35:54,182 --> 00:35:56,216
you're talking about, is there

1085
00:35:56,216 --> 00:35:58,516
anybody that lives there?

1086
00:35:58,516 --> 00:35:59,250
>> For 12 months for talk

1087
00:35:59,250 --> 00:36:01,649
continues month. We don't have

1088
00:36:01,649 --> 00:36:02,749
anybody in the manufactured

1089
00:36:02,749 --> 00:36:05,549
homes. Now there. Yeah. We

1090
00:36:05,549 --> 00:36:06,282
want talk about the future

1091
00:36:06,282 --> 00:36:06,949
leasing releasing for long. If

1092
00:36:06,949 --> 00:36:09,649
I want to come there, lived

1093
00:36:09,649 --> 00:36:10,949
there for 12 months.

1094
00:36:10,949 --> 00:36:12,716
>> Yeah, I mean, I think that

1095
00:36:12,716 --> 00:36:14,883
was are give me a year That

1096
00:36:14,883 --> 00:36:15,616
was our original plan, right?

1097
00:36:15,616 --> 00:36:16,316
Where we're at the point right

1098
00:36:16,316 --> 00:36:17,849
now where we're want to defer

1099
00:36:17,849 --> 00:36:20,516
to you guys a little bit and

1100
00:36:20,516 --> 00:36:22,417
and have have like a a

1101
00:36:22,417 --> 00:36:23,283
discussion about our plan

1102
00:36:23,283 --> 00:36:25,183
originally was to put them in

1103
00:36:25,183 --> 00:36:27,683
what we call it a home rental

1104
00:36:27,683 --> 00:36:30,830
program where they are

1105
00:36:31,383 --> 00:36:32,450
essentially on we call because

1106
00:36:32,450 --> 00:36:33,500
placement agreement because it

1107
00:36:33,500 --> 00:36:35,450
they pay monthly unpaid

1108
00:36:37,450 --> 00:36:39,450
electric bill.

1109
00:36:39,950 --> 00:36:42,750
>> What is purpose? And those

1110
00:36:42,750 --> 00:36:46,350
homes cause? Right now you are

1111
00:36:48,850 --> 00:36:49,583
running a resort. Business

1112
00:36:49,583 --> 00:36:51,750
model. Yeah. I mean, it sounds

1113
00:36:51,750 --> 00:36:52,817
like you're kind of. Wanting

1114
00:36:52,817 --> 00:36:55,817
to switch into getting into

1115
00:36:57,384 --> 00:36:58,550
the residential.

1116
00:36:58,550 --> 00:36:59,584
>> I wouldn't say that we're

1117
00:36:59,584 --> 00:37:00,484
trying to switch and get into

1118
00:37:00,484 --> 00:37:01,840
a residential development. I

1119
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,840
think for us it's about

1120
00:37:05,817 --> 00:37:06,850
providing. Options for our

1121
00:37:06,850 --> 00:37:07,684
guests, We have guessed that

1122
00:37:07,684 --> 00:37:08,351
want to stay for a week. We

1123
00:37:08,351 --> 00:37:09,170
have guessed that love this

1124
00:37:09,170 --> 00:37:10,150
area and they want to live

1125
00:37:10,150 --> 00:37:11,384
here and be here all the time.

1126
00:37:11,384 --> 00:37:12,250
And we want to be able to

1127
00:37:12,250 --> 00:37:15,250
provide both of those options

1128
00:37:18,851 --> 00:37:19,551
to our guests. It's a it's

1129
00:37:19,551 --> 00:37:20,251
big, many said it's a hybrid.

1130
00:37:20,251 --> 00:37:22,817
This kind of hybrid property,

1131
00:37:22,817 --> 00:37:23,840
right leg. Understood. Yeah.

1132
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:25,840
No

1133
00:37:26,217 --> 00:37:26,951
>> Yeah. I mean, that's that's

1134
00:37:26,951 --> 00:37:27,651
that's for us. It's it's about

1135
00:37:27,651 --> 00:37:28,317
creating options and keeping,

1136
00:37:28,317 --> 00:37:28,984
you know, business options

1137
00:37:28,984 --> 00:37:31,518
open as well as what's the

1138
00:37:31,518 --> 00:37:32,218
best thing for.

1139
00:37:32,218 --> 00:37:32,918
>> What we feel, the guests

1140
00:37:32,918 --> 00:37:35,984
for the for the area and for

1141
00:37:35,984 --> 00:37:36,785
for business as well.

1142
00:37:36,785 --> 00:37:39,651
>> So how long have the 10

1143
00:37:39,651 --> 00:37:39,985
manufactured homes been on

1144
00:37:39,985 --> 00:37:41,840
there?

1145
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:41,918
>> I think that it was they

1146
00:37:41,918 --> 00:37:42,784
started getting delivered in

1147
00:37:42,784 --> 00:37:43,684
APRIL. And the last one I

1148
00:37:43,684 --> 00:37:46,840
think was delivered in

1149
00:37:47,318 --> 00:37:48,151
Mid-JUNE before that as far as

1150
00:37:48,151 --> 00:37:51,418
they were on their before. We

1151
00:37:51,418 --> 00:37:52,251
bought the property in 2016.

1152
00:37:52,251 --> 00:37:54,285
>> So there's been 10 minute

1153
00:37:54,285 --> 00:37:54,651
fractured homes on the

1154
00:37:54,651 --> 00:37:56,651
property.

1155
00:37:59,418 --> 00:38:00,118
>> well, know how they They

1156
00:38:00,118 --> 00:38:00,852
were removed, right? And like

1157
00:38:00,852 --> 00:38:02,585
that's what this whole issue

1158
00:38:02,585 --> 00:38:03,251
comes down to an r and as we

1159
00:38:03,251 --> 00:38:04,851
are without with would not

1160
00:38:04,851 --> 00:38:05,952
within that one year.

1161
00:38:05,952 --> 00:38:06,818
Nonconforming space.

1162
00:38:06,818 --> 00:38:07,485
>> But they had been there

1163
00:38:07,485 --> 00:38:10,485
since before summer of the

1164
00:38:10,585 --> 00:38:12,585
property in 2016.

1165
00:38:13,752 --> 00:38:14,618
>> So they grandfathered

1166
00:38:14,618 --> 00:38:15,652
grandfathered in.

1167
00:38:15,652 --> 00:38:16,385
>> That is our understanding.

1168
00:38:16,385 --> 00:38:18,385
Yes, essentially nonconforming

1169
00:38:18,952 --> 00:38:19,685
among 4 news.

1170
00:38:19,685 --> 00:38:20,418
>> So do you all know how long

1171
00:38:20,418 --> 00:38:23,252
they've been all know how long

1172
00:38:23,252 --> 00:38:25,850
they've been on this property.

1173
00:38:25,850 --> 00:38:26,252
>> We don't have that

1174
00:38:26,252 --> 00:38:27,352
information. Looked at aerials

1175
00:38:27,352 --> 00:38:30,190
and I think they were as far

1176
00:38:30,190 --> 00:38:31,352
back as we could look in their

1177
00:38:31,352 --> 00:38:33,119
early 2, thousands. So they've

1178
00:38:33,119 --> 00:38:34,319
been on there, at least I

1179
00:38:34,319 --> 00:38:36,186
would say at least 20 years

1180
00:38:36,186 --> 00:38:36,852
when we have paperwork from,

1181
00:38:36,852 --> 00:38:38,252
we bought the property when

1182
00:38:38,252 --> 00:38:40,219
that we have 3 addresses. One,

1183
00:38:40,219 --> 00:38:42,219
31 one, 41 1.51 and one. 41

1184
00:38:43,985 --> 00:38:46,352
was called like Silver Star Mh

1185
00:38:46,352 --> 00:38:47,190
Park and one 31 was one. 51

1186
00:38:47,190 --> 00:38:49,419
were jellystone are Silver

1187
00:38:50,252 --> 00:38:50,919
star or whatever. The middle.

1188
00:38:50,919 --> 00:38:54,352
The middle parcel was an mh

1189
00:38:54,352 --> 00:38:56,752
park at one point.

1190
00:38:57,286 --> 00:38:58,190
>> So just to since they were

1191
00:38:58,190 --> 00:38:58,986
grandfathered and it's because

1192
00:38:58,986 --> 00:38:59,686
they remove them because they

1193
00:38:59,686 --> 00:39:01,519
removed them for longer than

1194
00:39:01,519 --> 00:39:05,530
one year. Yes. And now they

1195
00:39:05,530 --> 00:39:06,286
have to start over. They don't

1196
00:39:06,286 --> 00:39:09,120
have to start over is just

1197
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:12,530
there and they're not allowed

1198
00:39:12,530 --> 00:39:12,753
use in in zoning banks. And so

1199
00:39:12,753 --> 00:39:16,253
we don't approve this. It all

1200
00:39:16,253 --> 00:39:18,120
just goes back to see 3. It is

1201
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:19,287
currently see 3 right

1202
00:39:19,287 --> 00:39:19,986
continue. Yes, okay. So if

1203
00:39:19,986 --> 00:39:22,986
it's not approved to react to

1204
00:39:22,986 --> 00:39:23,687
remove the units we have about

1205
00:39:23,687 --> 00:39:25,687
1.2 million dollar investment

1206
00:39:27,687 --> 00:39:28,786
in them right now. So you have

1207
00:39:28,786 --> 00:39:31,720
3 that a permanent that you

1208
00:39:31,720 --> 00:39:32,620
brought in 7 more without

1209
00:39:32,620 --> 00:39:33,253
permits.

1210
00:39:33,253 --> 00:39:33,987
>> They were the all the

1211
00:39:33,987 --> 00:39:36,987
permits were submitted at that

1212
00:39:37,870 --> 00:39:38,320
point. In end, it said it's a

1213
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:40,287
hard balance when you do that

1214
00:39:40,287 --> 00:39:41,553
because we have to order the

1215
00:39:41,553 --> 00:39:42,253
units with the manufacturer.

1216
00:39:42,253 --> 00:39:44,920
They have to produce them. We

1217
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:46,587
wait for delivery.

1218
00:39:46,587 --> 00:39:47,220
>> You typically we can't

1219
00:39:47,220 --> 00:39:47,954
permit them until they're

1220
00:39:47,954 --> 00:39:49,120
delivered because we don't get

1221
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:50,540
a vin number are a number at

1222
00:39:50,540 --> 00:39:52,454
all until they're delivered

1223
00:39:53,987 --> 00:39:55,987
property.

1224
00:39:56,620 --> 00:39:57,254
>> So you can't even get them

1225
00:39:57,254 --> 00:39:57,920
from a to b for no. And I

1226
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,920
mean, that's you could have

1227
00:40:02,254 --> 00:40:02,954
done was get this. The

1228
00:40:02,954 --> 00:40:03,687
preconstruction meeting. And

1229
00:40:03,687 --> 00:40:04,387
that's why what we thought was

1230
00:40:04,387 --> 00:40:06,587
ok and that's why we want to

1231
00:40:06,587 --> 00:40:07,754
order.

1232
00:40:07,754 --> 00:40:10,721
>> So you're saying you met

1233
00:40:10,721 --> 00:40:11,487
with the city? Everything's

1234
00:40:11,487 --> 00:40:13,254
fine. What made it? One 2 men

1235
00:40:13,254 --> 00:40:13,954
dollar investment and then but

1236
00:40:13,954 --> 00:40:15,421
they're in there and then you

1237
00:40:15,421 --> 00:40:15,987
get back no, no, never mind.

1238
00:40:15,987 --> 00:40:18,387
They're no longer in

1239
00:40:20,754 --> 00:40:21,988
conformance.

1240
00:40:21,988 --> 00:40:23,154
>> Did you know about the year

1241
00:40:23,154 --> 00:40:23,821
lapse time? We didn't know

1242
00:40:23,821 --> 00:40:27,421
until we met with the city

1243
00:40:27,487 --> 00:40:28,221
after they were revoked.

1244
00:40:28,221 --> 00:40:28,854
>> Do we have an exact date on

1245
00:40:28,854 --> 00:40:31,254
when they were because

1246
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:33,821
that's really the point right

1247
00:40:33,821 --> 00:40:35,954
is it's not about historical

1248
00:40:35,954 --> 00:40:36,654
use, but in 2012, the right

1249
00:40:36,654 --> 00:40:39,540
for manufactured was removed

1250
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:40,988
from c 3. And so when

1251
00:40:40,988 --> 00:40:43,388
something's removed its law,

1252
00:40:43,621 --> 00:40:44,222
you have 12 months to do any

1253
00:40:44,222 --> 00:40:47,222
type of stuff keep your

1254
00:40:47,488 --> 00:40:50,355
conforming. So I mean, that's

1255
00:40:50,355 --> 00:40:52,755
that was there beforehand

1256
00:40:53,888 --> 00:40:54,888
before it was purchased. So

1257
00:40:54,888 --> 00:40:56,355
the real is just when were

1258
00:40:56,355 --> 00:40:57,550
they removed? And then that is

1259
00:40:57,550 --> 00:40:59,855
the time frame to understand

1260
00:40:59,855 --> 00:41:01,755
if it was 12 months or not.

1261
00:41:01,755 --> 00:41:03,388
>> I think it was about it was

1262
00:41:03,388 --> 00:41:04,550
within the year that they do

1263
00:41:04,550 --> 00:41:05,788
the pre-development meeting

1264
00:41:05,788 --> 00:41:07,255
and I has to beat it was

1265
00:41:07,255 --> 00:41:10,855
around MARCH. So it they would

1266
00:41:11,255 --> 00:41:11,922
you know, place the units by

1267
00:41:11,922 --> 00:41:14,322
MARCH 2026, but looks like

1268
00:41:17,422 --> 00:41:18,722
they missed it about a month

1269
00:41:18,722 --> 00:41:19,389
or too, got just what it is to

1270
00:41:19,389 --> 00:41:22,989
me from what I gathered and

1271
00:41:23,589 --> 00:41:25,555
then hearing from you all.

1272
00:41:25,555 --> 00:41:26,989
>> y'all ordered the new ones

1273
00:41:26,989 --> 00:41:27,689
within the 12 time period.

1274
00:41:27,689 --> 00:41:28,255
They were. They were ordered

1275
00:41:28,255 --> 00:41:30,655
in JANUARY after the

1276
00:41:33,890 --> 00:41:34,220
preconstruction meeting.

1277
00:41:34,220 --> 00:41:37,622
>> And how many Dion have on

1278
00:41:38,220 --> 00:41:39,956
the property? Now? We have 10.

1279
00:41:39,956 --> 00:41:40,856
So they're all yelton were

1280
00:41:40,856 --> 00:41:41,556
delivered by think like said,

1281
00:41:41,556 --> 00:41:45,230
I think it was mid JUNE or

1282
00:41:45,230 --> 00:41:45,289
early JULY. The last one came

1283
00:41:45,289 --> 00:41:45,989
in.

1284
00:41:45,989 --> 00:41:46,723
>> I'm new to this as well. I

1285
00:41:46,723 --> 00:41:49,722
think it's I just moved to San

1286
00:41:49,722 --> 00:41:50,323
Antonio in JULY. So the role.

1287
00:41:50,323 --> 00:41:52,289
And so this might be a

1288
00:41:52,289 --> 00:41:55,890
question for staff. But in

1289
00:41:55,890 --> 00:41:56,589
this instance where they can

1290
00:41:56,589 --> 00:41:57,256
with the manufactured home. I

1291
00:41:57,256 --> 00:41:59,289
know with park models

1292
00:41:59,289 --> 00:42:00,230
and staff as well used to have

1293
00:42:00,230 --> 00:42:00,689
a vin number. And so you don't

1294
00:42:00,689 --> 00:42:03,122
get that until you get the

1295
00:42:03,122 --> 00:42:04,223
actual delivery of it.

1296
00:42:04,223 --> 00:42:05,230
>> And what I'm hearing is

1297
00:42:05,230 --> 00:42:05,723
that the process is that's

1298
00:42:05,723 --> 00:42:06,723
when you can actually come to

1299
00:42:06,723 --> 00:42:09,723
the city staff and permanent.

1300
00:42:10,990 --> 00:42:13,123
Is there any? What the right

1301
00:42:13,123 --> 00:42:15,570
word of the allowance for the

1302
00:42:15,570 --> 00:42:16,190
fact that given the certain

1303
00:42:16,190 --> 00:42:17,956
model the orders have to

1304
00:42:17,956 --> 00:42:19,857
happen before that. So the

1305
00:42:19,857 --> 00:42:20,523
order placement was in there

1306
00:42:20,523 --> 00:42:21,190
nonconforming use. But then

1307
00:42:21,190 --> 00:42:23,857
the permit falls outside of

1308
00:42:23,857 --> 00:42:24,557
it. Because if that's the

1309
00:42:24,557 --> 00:42:27,190
case, then they would have to

1310
00:42:27,190 --> 00:42:27,857
order it like immediately and

1311
00:42:27,857 --> 00:42:28,690
hope that they get a cause

1312
00:42:28,690 --> 00:42:30,323
that could be completely out

1313
00:42:30,323 --> 00:42:31,390
of their hands. On the

1314
00:42:31,390 --> 00:42:33,790
delivery date. Sony's park

1315
00:42:33,990 --> 00:42:34,823
models get super delayed. And

1316
00:42:34,823 --> 00:42:35,690
if delayed a couple months

1317
00:42:35,690 --> 00:42:36,323
than they might MISS Their

1318
00:42:36,323 --> 00:42:39,323
permit window. So I guess

1319
00:42:40,924 --> 00:42:41,857
that's really that crux of it.

1320
00:42:41,857 --> 00:42:44,857
>> It ultimately up to the

1321
00:42:45,790 --> 00:42:46,924
building official revoke the

1322
00:42:46,924 --> 00:42:48,524
permits and it was decided

1323
00:42:48,524 --> 00:42:49,190
that order for them to

1324
00:42:49,190 --> 00:42:50,157
continue with the use, that

1325
00:42:50,157 --> 00:42:50,524
they would have to go through

1326
00:42:50,524 --> 00:42:52,524
rezoning.

1327
00:42:55,157 --> 00:42:55,791
>> Okay. These 10 that you get

1328
00:42:55,791 --> 00:42:56,491
there are ready. Are you

1329
00:42:56,491 --> 00:42:59,491
planning on putting more out

1330
00:43:00,158 --> 00:43:01,957
there if this passes? We had

1331
00:43:01,957 --> 00:43:02,591
originally planned to replace

1332
00:43:02,591 --> 00:43:03,257
another 10 in a different

1333
00:43:03,257 --> 00:43:03,891
area. But we think at this

1334
00:43:03,891 --> 00:43:06,891
point we're just going to

1335
00:43:08,910 --> 00:43:11,910
stick to the Thank you.

1336
00:43:12,570 --> 00:43:12,524
Clarify Zoning request. If

1337
00:43:12,524 --> 00:43:14,524
it's approved.

1338
00:43:17,724 --> 00:43:18,691
>> approved for all 11 point,

1339
00:43:18,691 --> 00:43:20,691
whatever acres.

1340
00:43:20,724 --> 00:43:21,324
>> a special use permit

1341
00:43:21,324 --> 00:43:21,958
request so there can be

1342
00:43:21,958 --> 00:43:23,458
conditions placed on the

1343
00:43:23,458 --> 00:43:25,858
special use permit request.

1344
00:43:27,524 --> 00:43:30,858
But right now as it stands.

1345
00:43:30,858 --> 00:43:32,158
>> If it were proved they

1346
00:43:32,158 --> 00:43:33,891
could put manufactured homes

1347
00:43:33,891 --> 00:43:35,758
all over almost 12 acres.

1348
00:43:35,758 --> 00:43:37,891
There were no conditions

1349
00:43:37,891 --> 00:43:39,920
placed unless we put a

1350
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:40,958
condition for a limited to

1351
00:43:40,958 --> 00:43:42,580
what's already now. Well and

1352
00:43:42,580 --> 00:43:42,791
again, I think Jamie and I are

1353
00:43:42,791 --> 00:43:45,525
here to say we heard Mary say

1354
00:43:45,525 --> 00:43:46,692
that at the end of her

1355
00:43:46,692 --> 00:43:48,358
presentation and at this

1356
00:43:48,358 --> 00:43:49,325
point, we want to at least use

1357
00:43:49,325 --> 00:43:50,250
those 10 that were delivered

1358
00:43:50,250 --> 00:43:53,250
because we have a 1.2 million

1359
00:43:53,580 --> 00:43:54,925
dollar investment in those.

1360
00:43:54,925 --> 00:43:55,992
>> We are fine with absolutely

1361
00:43:55,992 --> 00:43:57,258
stopping there looking at

1362
00:43:57,258 --> 00:43:58,792
those conditions that were

1363
00:43:58,792 --> 00:43:59,525
placed were happy with any

1364
00:43:59,525 --> 00:44:00,259
riders that come to So you can

1365
00:44:00,259 --> 00:44:04,392
just stick it and be done with

1366
00:44:04,392 --> 00:44:06,392
it.

1367
00:44:09,225 --> 00:44:12,225
>> For why given the confusion

1368
00:44:14,859 --> 00:44:16,725
>> are recommending denial?

1369
00:44:16,725 --> 00:44:20,925
>> So I would I would say, you

1370
00:44:22,492 --> 00:44:24,426
know, our our recommendation,

1371
00:44:24,426 --> 00:44:26,692
>> It sometimes tough for

1372
00:44:26,692 --> 00:44:27,559
staff to make the to come down

1373
00:44:27,559 --> 00:44:28,559
on one side or another. And

1374
00:44:28,559 --> 00:44:31,326
this is one of those instances

1375
00:44:31,326 --> 00:44:32,260
where it was not a.

1376
00:44:32,260 --> 00:44:35,626
>> You know, is not black or

1377
00:44:37,826 --> 00:44:39,726
white. Circumstance. So and in

1378
00:44:39,726 --> 00:44:42,260
fact, that's why the report

1379
00:44:42,260 --> 00:44:42,693
was crafted. The wind was too

1380
00:44:42,693 --> 00:44:45,693
sort of balance that there

1381
00:44:47,590 --> 00:44:49,193
are. Actions the comprehensive

1382
00:44:49,193 --> 00:44:52,193
plan that that support the

1383
00:44:56,660 --> 00:44:59,600
request. Are reviewing our

1384
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:03,760
consideration with the These

1385
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:05,760
residential products being

1386
00:45:07,692 --> 00:45:09,427
removed from the zoning code.

1387
00:45:09,427 --> 00:45:10,127
We felt that that was the

1388
00:45:10,127 --> 00:45:13,127
direction that, you know, the

1389
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:16,793
city was. In the adoption of

1390
00:45:16,793 --> 00:45:19,227
of those changes to the code

1391
00:45:19,227 --> 00:45:22,827
that that the city was. In

1392
00:45:25,627 --> 00:45:26,660
favor of that. That position.

1393
00:45:26,660 --> 00:45:27,393
>> I think to suggest that we

1394
00:45:27,393 --> 00:45:30,260
open up the public hearing and

1395
00:45:30,260 --> 00:45:33,260
if we need to representatives

1396
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:36,327
come back, we come back. I

1397
00:45:36,327 --> 00:45:36,927
think public hearing and I

1398
00:45:36,927 --> 00:45:37,560
thank you here for many

1399
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:40,394
citizens are here to talk

1400
00:45:40,394 --> 00:45:41,127
about it. It will open a

1401
00:45:41,127 --> 00:45:41,827
public hearing for anyone that

1402
00:45:41,827 --> 00:45:45,427
would like to come and speak

1403
00:45:47,694 --> 00:45:48,360
regarding And we couldn't use

1404
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:51,960
a cell phone. Note here, is

1405
00:45:52,294 --> 00:45:53,327
that okay?

1406
00:45:53,327 --> 00:45:55,394
>> Okay. Curtis yanking I do

1407
00:45:55,394 --> 00:45:56,610
live here and and Braunfels up

1408
00:45:56,610 --> 00:45:56,761
in the Highland Grove area

1409
00:45:56,761 --> 00:45:57,927
with one of those e-mails and

1410
00:45:57,927 --> 00:46:01,527
names on that list. It's a

1411
00:46:03,327 --> 00:46:03,894
real quick. It's a good

1412
00:46:03,894 --> 00:46:05,161
evening. I'm speaking

1413
00:46:05,161 --> 00:46:07,128
regarding special use permit

1414
00:46:07,128 --> 00:46:07,661
for this. And my concern is

1415
00:46:07,661 --> 00:46:09,195
not necessarily the

1416
00:46:09,195 --> 00:46:10,928
manufacturing housing after

1417
00:46:10,928 --> 00:46:14,528
hearing their story. I do feel

1418
00:46:14,928 --> 00:46:16,561
for him a little bit, but I'm

1419
00:46:16,561 --> 00:46:18,528
more worried about the

1420
00:46:18,528 --> 00:46:19,494
cumulative impact of land use

1421
00:46:19,494 --> 00:46:20,995
decisions on this area and the

1422
00:46:20,995 --> 00:46:21,728
surrounding established

1423
00:46:21,728 --> 00:46:24,128
neighborhoods and more than

1424
00:46:25,828 --> 00:46:26,595
just a 200 feet. It is in the

1425
00:46:26,595 --> 00:46:28,595
brothel, specifically calls

1426
00:46:28,861 --> 00:46:29,428
for protecting the character

1427
00:46:29,428 --> 00:46:30,161
intake, integrity and

1428
00:46:30,161 --> 00:46:30,895
stability of neighborhoods and

1429
00:46:30,895 --> 00:46:33,295
balance commercial centers are

1430
00:46:33,995 --> 00:46:34,828
stable neighborhoods. The area

1431
00:46:34,828 --> 00:46:36,950
has already experienced

1432
00:46:36,950 --> 00:46:37,162
significant change, including

1433
00:46:37,162 --> 00:46:38,280
MARCH homeless shelter nearby

1434
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:39,280
on the other side of the

1435
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,995
interstate. Now the city is

1436
00:46:41,995 --> 00:46:42,962
considering allowing

1437
00:46:42,962 --> 00:46:43,695
manufactured housing

1438
00:46:43,695 --> 00:46:44,362
approximately 11 acres of sea,

1439
00:46:44,362 --> 00:46:46,362
3 commercial property along

1440
00:46:48,362 --> 00:46:49,290
the I-35 corridor Senate

1441
00:46:49,290 --> 00:46:51,562
stated his current team is

1442
00:46:51,562 --> 00:46:52,295
only 10 manufactured homes,

1443
00:46:52,295 --> 00:46:53,195
but the separate quest covers

1444
00:46:53,195 --> 00:46:53,895
approximately 11 acres. I

1445
00:46:53,895 --> 00:46:54,495
think you just kind of talked

1446
00:46:54,495 --> 00:46:56,895
through there could be

1447
00:46:57,295 --> 00:46:58,562
conditions on that. But that

1448
00:46:58,562 --> 00:46:59,162
still raises an important

1449
00:46:59,162 --> 00:46:59,895
question to the cep is

1450
00:46:59,895 --> 00:47:00,529
approved. What prevents future

1451
00:47:00,529 --> 00:47:02,529
expansion beyond those 10

1452
00:47:02,762 --> 00:47:03,462
homes? And what is the city's

1453
00:47:03,462 --> 00:47:06,362
intent based on their vision

1454
00:47:06,362 --> 00:47:07,290
plan for this area? Retired

1455
00:47:07,290 --> 00:47:10,562
after 31 years in the U.S.

1456
00:47:10,562 --> 00:47:11,296
Army as a colonel. Chose New

1457
00:47:11,296 --> 00:47:11,962
Braunfels and picked that area

1458
00:47:11,962 --> 00:47:14,362
because of the residential

1459
00:47:14,929 --> 00:47:16,896
rural area and what it looked

1460
00:47:16,896 --> 00:47:18,662
like as I continue to watch it

1461
00:47:18,662 --> 00:47:19,362
grow and watch things grow on

1462
00:47:19,362 --> 00:47:21,562
the side of Mayfair and then

1463
00:47:21,562 --> 00:47:24,562
things down here, it seems

1464
00:47:24,662 --> 00:47:25,696
like this side of New

1465
00:47:25,696 --> 00:47:26,363
Braunfels is getting homeless.

1466
00:47:26,363 --> 00:47:28,363
Shelters manufactured homes

1467
00:47:28,929 --> 00:47:30,296
and things like that. I'm just

1468
00:47:30,296 --> 00:47:30,896
concerned that looking at the

1469
00:47:30,896 --> 00:47:33,229
envision and where the

1470
00:47:33,229 --> 00:47:34,229
future's going for this homes

1471
00:47:34,229 --> 00:47:36,163
that are in Highland Road that

1472
00:47:36,163 --> 00:47:36,863
are half a million dollars MAY

1473
00:47:36,863 --> 00:47:40,463
have land value issues in the

1474
00:47:53,896 --> 00:47:56,896
future. Any questions for e?

1475
00:47:59,300 --> 00:47:59,730
Sorry the mic was off.

1476
00:47:59,730 --> 00:48:02,697
>> Anyone else would like to

1477
00:48:02,697 --> 00:48:03,296
speak. Please forward. If not,

1478
00:48:03,296 --> 00:48:05,463
I will close the public

1479
00:48:05,463 --> 00:48:06,163
hearing.

1480
00:48:06,163 --> 00:48:08,563
>> Commissioners, I'd like to

1481
00:48:09,830 --> 00:48:12,830
suggest. Hearing both sides to

1482
00:48:15,970 --> 00:48:17,363
this. I think with Big. Works

1483
00:48:17,363 --> 00:48:19,763
on both sides. And

1484
00:48:22,897 --> 00:48:23,597
>> and the applicant's side.

1485
00:48:23,597 --> 00:48:27,197
Just like to say that before

1486
00:48:27,597 --> 00:48:28,430
we go any further. It suggests

1487
00:48:28,430 --> 00:48:28,997
that if we were going look at

1488
00:48:28,997 --> 00:48:31,397
any approval that we

1489
00:48:31,630 --> 00:48:34,300
absolutely put Conditions that

1490
00:48:34,830 --> 00:48:37,830
the only these thank you

1491
00:48:38,631 --> 00:48:41,310
factor domes. Presented to

1492
00:48:41,797 --> 00:48:43,797
commissioners, please.

1493
00:48:43,831 --> 00:48:44,497
>> Someone from the city

1494
00:48:44,497 --> 00:48:46,897
confirmed that vin numbers

1495
00:48:49,330 --> 00:48:51,730
required. Required 2. Issue a

1496
00:48:52,564 --> 00:48:54,564
permit

1497
00:48:56,931 --> 00:48:58,931
>> The planning previously

1498
00:48:58,931 --> 00:48:59,698
before it reconfigured in

1499
00:48:59,698 --> 00:49:02,980
split into 2 to division

1500
00:49:04,598 --> 00:49:05,264
departments I personally

1501
00:49:05,264 --> 00:49:05,831
reviewed mobile home. They

1502
00:49:05,831 --> 00:49:08,298
come, you we have all

1503
00:49:08,298 --> 00:49:09,198
terminology mobile home

1504
00:49:09,198 --> 00:49:12,798
permit. And it is true that

1505
00:49:13,131 --> 00:49:15,765
there had to be a picture of

1506
00:49:15,765 --> 00:49:18,165
the id number of that unit.

1507
00:49:18,165 --> 00:49:20,310
And I recall seeing those in

1508
00:49:20,310 --> 00:49:20,765
reviewing and that's before

1509
00:49:20,765 --> 00:49:24,365
they're issued. So you have to

1510
00:49:26,165 --> 00:49:26,865
have that.

1511
00:49:26,865 --> 00:49:27,565
>> I think my biggest concern

1512
00:49:27,565 --> 00:49:31,765
is because I know we lived on

1513
00:49:32,532 --> 00:49:33,232
the east side. B-one got

1514
00:49:33,232 --> 00:49:35,632
rezoned next. Our residential

1515
00:49:36,365 --> 00:49:38,650
and Being in real estate. I

1516
00:49:38,650 --> 00:49:39,265
saw the impact of that. My

1517
00:49:39,265 --> 00:49:42,865
concern is if we have it,

1518
00:49:43,399 --> 00:49:46,999
prove this. Kind of a lead.

1519
00:49:47,732 --> 00:49:48,365
The doorway open. That if they

1520
00:49:48,365 --> 00:49:51,965
were to come back in the

1521
00:49:52,565 --> 00:49:55,365
future. It would be really

1522
00:49:55,365 --> 00:49:57,399
hard to say, no, because

1523
00:49:57,399 --> 00:49:58,132
there's already 10 on there.

1524
00:49:58,132 --> 00:49:58,865
It's kind of like St ours. You

1525
00:49:58,865 --> 00:50:03,650
know, once we open the door to

1526
00:50:04,432 --> 00:50:05,132
that. It could lead to more.

1527
00:50:05,132 --> 00:50:05,799
And seen, you know, given the

1528
00:50:05,799 --> 00:50:07,366
voice of the residents all

1529
00:50:07,366 --> 00:50:10,966
around it. We have to honor

1530
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:14,899
that. My heart goes out to you

1531
00:50:14,899 --> 00:50:16,990
all. I hate the situation.

1532
00:50:16,990 --> 00:50:16,766
Like how it all happened. I

1533
00:50:16,766 --> 00:50:19,766
wish things could have been

1534
00:50:21,266 --> 00:50:22,330
clear for y'all. I'm concerned

1535
00:50:22,330 --> 00:50:23,660
with the big, you know, the

1536
00:50:23,660 --> 00:50:26,660
future the big picture. And

1537
00:50:29,866 --> 00:50:30,733
the fact that the city has.

1538
00:50:30,733 --> 00:50:31,466
They're recommending denial. I

1539
00:50:31,466 --> 00:50:34,466
think that's something to look

1540
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:38,600
at as well. For the strategic

1541
00:50:41,330 --> 00:50:43,330
plan. And so.

1542
00:50:43,330 --> 00:50:43,766
>> I think we have the image.

1543
00:50:43,766 --> 00:50:45,700
And since he the letter of the

1544
00:50:45,700 --> 00:50:49,300
law and the spirit of law.

1545
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,400
Being part month or 2

1546
00:50:52,900 --> 00:50:54,434
difference between when you're

1547
00:50:54,434 --> 00:50:55,670
informant win or not. And for

1548
00:50:55,670 --> 00:50:58,400
months and if a delay in

1549
00:50:58,400 --> 00:50:59,660
delivery appear units and you

1550
00:50:59,660 --> 00:51:00,633
have that the permit of the

1551
00:51:00,633 --> 00:51:04,233
unit there before you get the

1552
00:51:04,567 --> 00:51:06,967
actually issue their vote

1553
00:51:07,833 --> 00:51:08,833
>> yeah, I would hate to see.

1554
00:51:08,833 --> 00:51:12,867
So this is this is a a small

1555
00:51:12,867 --> 00:51:14,670
enough. Give.

1556
00:51:14,670 --> 00:51:16,467
>> An area property that

1557
00:51:17,833 --> 00:51:18,534
already had 10. You didn't. I

1558
00:51:18,534 --> 00:51:19,234
think if we restricted to 10

1559
00:51:19,234 --> 00:51:21,634
unit says planning staff has

1560
00:51:21,634 --> 00:51:24,340
recommended. I'm not concerned

1561
00:51:24,700 --> 00:51:25,234
about future this mean it.

1562
00:51:25,234 --> 00:51:25,934
Future growth, Mult

1563
00:51:25,934 --> 00:51:28,334
manufactured housing in this

1564
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:32,334
area. Because because of the

1565
00:51:32,334 --> 00:51:35,934
restrictions of the U.S. Up.

1566
00:51:38,340 --> 00:51:39,967
But do see harm. And this 1.2

1567
00:51:39,967 --> 00:51:42,967
million dollars harm for any

1568
00:51:43,568 --> 00:51:44,268
business on a technicality of

1569
00:51:44,268 --> 00:51:44,934
a month or 2 of their on of a

1570
00:51:44,934 --> 00:51:47,568
delivery date of unity. You

1571
00:51:47,568 --> 00:51:51,168
have no control over. So I

1572
00:51:55,368 --> 00:51:56,234
die. I'm going to vote

1573
00:51:56,234 --> 00:51:56,835
approval of this with these

1574
00:51:56,835 --> 00:51:58,835
restrictions that staff

1575
00:52:01,100 --> 00:52:03,868
presented. Because of that. I

1576
00:52:03,868 --> 00:52:07,468
think that this place where we

1577
00:52:07,834 --> 00:52:08,468
can show a little grace and

1578
00:52:08,468 --> 00:52:10,201
this instance My concern,

1579
00:52:10,201 --> 00:52:11,935
though, is this is what's the

1580
00:52:11,935 --> 00:52:12,635
future look like? And we've

1581
00:52:12,635 --> 00:52:13,268
got a look down the road, its

1582
00:52:13,268 --> 00:52:14,568
future. What happens when

1583
00:52:14,568 --> 00:52:16,568
Winters making here?

1584
00:52:18,635 --> 00:52:19,735
>> And I thinking about what

1585
00:52:19,735 --> 00:52:22,868
we want. You both look like.

1586
00:52:22,868 --> 00:52:23,734
25 for 2 years from this,

1587
00:52:23,734 --> 00:52:24,768
Yeah, decisions we make now.

1588
00:52:24,768 --> 00:52:26,602
So PRESIDENT's there's been

1589
00:52:26,602 --> 00:52:27,468
many a times over the years

1590
00:52:27,468 --> 00:52:28,268
where we've done the phase

1591
00:52:28,268 --> 00:52:28,968
will do it in phases phase 2

1592
00:52:28,968 --> 00:52:30,350
never happens because you've

1593
00:52:30,350 --> 00:52:32,435
got everything you the

1594
00:52:33,502 --> 00:52:34,202
megastar in phase one and

1595
00:52:34,202 --> 00:52:36,602
magically phase 2 goes away.

1596
00:52:38,669 --> 00:52:39,535
My concern is. And I agree

1597
00:52:39,535 --> 00:52:42,669
it's kind of us is biz staff

1598
00:52:42,669 --> 00:52:43,335
food all around and like to.

1599
00:52:43,335 --> 00:52:45,735
Accommodate. But my concern

1600
00:52:46,535 --> 00:52:48,402
is. What happens a year for

1601
00:52:48,402 --> 00:52:49,680
now. They come back and say,

1602
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:51,269
oh, now we want to do this.

1603
00:52:51,269 --> 00:52:54,369
This and this and they want

1604
00:52:54,369 --> 00:52:55,502
another special use permit.

1605
00:52:55,502 --> 00:52:56,202
And maybe the board's

1606
00:52:56,202 --> 00:52:56,869
different. I don't know that

1607
00:52:56,869 --> 00:52:59,869
the Department of trying to

1608
00:53:02,636 --> 00:53:03,869
make is. I agree it's a bad

1609
00:53:03,869 --> 00:53:04,436
situation, but we've got look

1610
00:53:04,436 --> 00:53:05,102
out for what want New

1611
00:53:05,102 --> 00:53:08,603
Braunfels to be like in the

1612
00:53:08,603 --> 00:53:11,603
future. If zoning says no

1613
00:53:12,669 --> 00:53:13,303
manufactured homes. If we

1614
00:53:13,303 --> 00:53:13,936
approve the tend to stay

1615
00:53:13,936 --> 00:53:16,936
there, there's got to be

1616
00:53:17,669 --> 00:53:18,369
something very. So this is

1617
00:53:18,369 --> 00:53:21,369
nothing else happens here for

1618
00:53:23,403 --> 00:53:25,469
me to support. As a have a

1619
00:53:25,469 --> 00:53:26,670
question for the applicant and

1620
00:53:26,670 --> 00:53:28,336
you really you have to get up

1621
00:53:28,336 --> 00:53:29,300
predict how many, how many

1622
00:53:29,300 --> 00:53:31,403
locations like resort still

1623
00:53:43,837 --> 00:53:46,303
have to say, like in Texas.

1624
00:53:46,303 --> 00:53:47,803
>> We have I mean, to to

1625
00:53:47,803 --> 00:53:48,537
outside Dallas to in Austin

1626
00:53:48,537 --> 00:53:51,470
and, you know, the closest one

1627
00:53:51,470 --> 00:53:52,103
hears off 16. 0, 4, and San

1628
00:53:52,103 --> 00:53:53,570
Antonio, one downtown San

1629
00:53:53,570 --> 00:53:55,837
Antonio than 2 of her by

1630
00:53:55,837 --> 00:53:56,637
Houston. And that's just the 9

1631
00:53:56,637 --> 00:53:58,603
that we operate, the 9 that

1632
00:53:58,603 --> 00:54:00,504
I'm responsible for. We also

1633
00:54:00,504 --> 00:54:01,637
have 3 more that are like

1634
00:54:01,637 --> 00:54:02,337
operated by a 3rd party that

1635
00:54:02,337 --> 00:54:04,637
we own nose or jelly stones.

1636
00:54:04,637 --> 00:54:05,304
Like you mentioned earlier.

1637
00:54:05,304 --> 00:54:07,703
>> So they're places where

1638
00:54:07,703 --> 00:54:09,137
these thank you. Factor homes

1639
00:54:09,137 --> 00:54:12,737
could be placed if this were

1640
00:54:16,771 --> 00:54:18,771
denied. Potentially. Thank

1641
00:54:22,104 --> 00:54:22,904
right now is. I operate a

1642
00:54:22,904 --> 00:54:25,304
business that deals with

1643
00:54:28,171 --> 00:54:28,837
permits, different cities and

1644
00:54:28,837 --> 00:54:29,437
and it's not it's not

1645
00:54:29,437 --> 00:54:30,171
manufactured home. So I

1646
00:54:30,171 --> 00:54:32,204
understand some of the process

1647
00:54:32,204 --> 00:54:34,838
might be a little different.

1648
00:54:34,838 --> 00:54:35,504
On her la Home building. But I

1649
00:54:35,504 --> 00:54:39,104
know we don't we don't move

1650
00:54:40,171 --> 00:54:40,804
without a permit. We do want

1651
00:54:40,804 --> 00:54:42,738
to get situation. Got her

1652
00:54:42,738 --> 00:54:46,338
house down. But on the flip

1653
00:54:46,938 --> 00:54:48,938
side of that, once we have a

1654
00:54:48,938 --> 00:54:50,405
permit, we rely on that good

1655
00:54:50,405 --> 00:54:52,371
faith that we have a permit

1656
00:54:52,371 --> 00:54:55,380
and we certainly don't know

1657
00:54:55,380 --> 00:54:55,738
that can come back through,

1658
00:54:55,738 --> 00:54:56,938
you know, code books from 10

1659
00:54:56,938 --> 00:54:58,605
years ago, 15 years ago to

1660
00:54:58,605 --> 00:55:00,971
ensure that the city staff

1661
00:55:00,971 --> 00:55:03,971
issue the permits, correct. So

1662
00:55:05,605 --> 00:55:06,238
my thinking right now. And,

1663
00:55:06,238 --> 00:55:06,938
Ali, I'm not going make a

1664
00:55:06,938 --> 00:55:08,638
motion was more discussion,

1665
00:55:08,638 --> 00:55:11,638
but my motion would probably

1666
00:55:14,138 --> 00:55:14,838
be 2. Honor. The 3 permits.

1667
00:55:14,838 --> 00:55:18,438
And approve it for the 3 that

1668
00:55:18,438 --> 00:55:19,380
were issued. You know, hope

1669
00:55:19,380 --> 00:55:19,739
that the other could be

1670
00:55:19,739 --> 00:55:21,105
relocated repurpose somewhere

1671
00:55:21,105 --> 00:55:24,105
else. That's where my head

1672
00:55:24,905 --> 00:55:25,505
that at the moment.

1673
00:55:25,505 --> 00:55:26,205
>> 3 permits like and 3

1674
00:55:26,205 --> 00:55:28,605
manufactured homes, the ones,

1675
00:55:29,500 --> 00:55:32,605
the ones that worries you. But

1676
00:55:34,339 --> 00:55:37,339
then I still remove 7 right?

1677
00:55:40,372 --> 00:55:41,390
Of those 12. Have are those

1678
00:55:41,390 --> 00:55:43,390
strictly manufactured-home

1679
00:55:43,272 --> 00:55:44,372
subdivisions? Are they

1680
00:55:44,372 --> 00:55:45,372
hybrids?

1681
00:55:45,372 --> 00:55:46,439
>> So the 16 properties that

1682
00:55:46,439 --> 00:55:47,139
we have there are many fashion

1683
00:55:47,139 --> 00:55:47,839
housing are strictly

1684
00:55:47,839 --> 00:55:50,239
manufactured housing. I would

1685
00:55:51,172 --> 00:55:51,872
say of the. The 12 properties

1686
00:55:51,872 --> 00:55:55,206
that we have that are like

1687
00:55:55,206 --> 00:55:55,939
under rv division. I think 2

1688
00:55:55,939 --> 00:55:58,939
of them are considered hybrid,

1689
00:55:59,573 --> 00:56:00,473
too. To have the 2, 2, in

1690
00:56:00,473 --> 00:56:02,873
Dallas are considered hybrids

1691
00:56:07,506 --> 00:56:08,206
and and yeah, in a how many

1692
00:56:08,206 --> 00:56:10,606
developments you'll have like

1693
00:56:11,806 --> 00:56:12,606
this resort.

1694
00:56:12,606 --> 00:56:15,606
>> In Texas or general in

1695
00:56:16,173 --> 00:56:19,173
Texas, there be about 10. And

1696
00:56:20,206 --> 00:56:21,673
9 or 7 of those 10 we operate.

1697
00:56:21,673 --> 00:56:24,273
3 are operated through a 3rd

1698
00:56:24,273 --> 00:56:25,173
party. Maybe you have more

1699
00:56:25,173 --> 00:56:25,873
manufactured home subdivisions

1700
00:56:25,873 --> 00:56:28,506
and you have resort, correct?

1701
00:56:28,506 --> 00:56:29,906
So.

1702
00:56:29,906 --> 00:56:30,973
>> And I know that be a cost

1703
00:56:30,973 --> 00:56:31,673
to get at a cost to Acosta you

1704
00:56:31,673 --> 00:56:35,873
got to find space if you got

1705
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:40,240
it. To me. I think that option

1706
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:41,673
for residents, the neighbors.

1707
00:56:41,673 --> 00:56:44,673
Applicant for the end to

1708
00:56:44,873 --> 00:56:48,141
event, we have? It's a big

1709
00:56:48,141 --> 00:56:50,541
lump sum. Both sides.

1710
00:56:51,340 --> 00:56:52,640
>> But I can see the clear

1711
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:53,507
business model vision that you

1712
00:56:53,507 --> 00:56:54,974
all have is manufactured

1713
00:56:54,974 --> 00:56:55,674
homes. I think my concern is

1714
00:56:55,674 --> 00:56:58,740
as planning commissioners, we

1715
00:56:59,700 --> 00:56:59,674
kind of have to see through.

1716
00:56:59,674 --> 00:57:02,674
As to where we're heading.

1717
00:57:04,507 --> 00:57:05,208
We're going. You know, act. I

1718
00:57:05,208 --> 00:57:09,408
can see I can see all coming

1719
00:57:10,607 --> 00:57:11,307
back. And saying can we do 10

1720
00:57:11,307 --> 00:57:15,107
more are can we go ahead and

1721
00:57:15,107 --> 00:57:18,874
just? Can we make this what we

1722
00:57:18,874 --> 00:57:20,907
have the other 12? I mean,

1723
00:57:20,907 --> 00:57:21,907
even I mean, parent would be

1724
00:57:21,907 --> 00:57:23,141
really great. Yeah, I

1725
00:57:23,141 --> 00:57:25,341
understand your concern and

1726
00:57:25,341 --> 00:57:26,740
for us after what we've gone

1727
00:57:26,740 --> 00:57:28,974
through in the situation is is

1728
00:57:28,974 --> 00:57:29,641
not our intent at all.

1729
00:57:29,641 --> 00:57:31,141
>> We're already discussing

1730
00:57:31,141 --> 00:57:32,174
other options for what we can

1731
00:57:32,174 --> 00:57:32,874
do in those sites where we

1732
00:57:32,874 --> 00:57:35,274
would potentially have added

1733
00:57:35,408 --> 00:57:36,674
10 more right. We're talking

1734
00:57:36,674 --> 00:57:39,674
about making premium the lead

1735
00:57:40,408 --> 00:57:41,108
sites for rv's or Brianne Park

1736
00:57:41,108 --> 00:57:41,774
model. Many you know, parking

1737
00:57:41,774 --> 00:57:42,608
on the Adventure Park model

1738
00:57:42,608 --> 00:57:44,808
homes as rentals like we've

1739
00:57:44,808 --> 00:57:45,541
already started the discussion

1740
00:57:45,541 --> 00:57:48,541
because we realized that we

1741
00:57:49,408 --> 00:57:50,508
were outside of the the zoning

1742
00:57:50,508 --> 00:57:51,775
on this. We didn't know until,

1743
00:57:51,775 --> 00:57:52,641
you know, I came up here and

1744
00:57:52,641 --> 00:57:56,241
talk to Mary in mid-JULY after

1745
00:57:58,408 --> 00:57:59,375
the record revocation. I to

1746
00:57:59,375 --> 00:58:00,675
make a decision on on any

1747
00:58:00,675 --> 00:58:03,775
decision on what MAY happen or

1748
00:58:03,775 --> 00:58:04,408
what could happen when we're

1749
00:58:04,408 --> 00:58:06,408
>> deciding what they're

1750
00:58:08,142 --> 00:58:09,800
asking for. Now be any change

1751
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:11,750
that they would be in the They

1752
00:58:11,750 --> 00:58:12,408
would have to come in and ask

1753
00:58:12,408 --> 00:58:13,142
again to change the U.S. Up

1754
00:58:13,142 --> 00:58:16,742
from whatever it is. We decide

1755
00:58:18,375 --> 00:58:19,109
to do here. And at that time.

1756
00:58:19,109 --> 00:58:19,842
The commissioners at that Time

1757
00:58:19,842 --> 00:58:20,708
City Council that time could

1758
00:58:20,708 --> 00:58:22,508
vie way. What would be best

1759
00:58:22,508 --> 00:58:23,475
for the community? Then they

1760
00:58:23,475 --> 00:58:24,420
decide that. Yeah, that time

1761
00:58:24,420 --> 00:58:26,442
that we MAY need 100

1762
00:58:26,442 --> 00:58:27,709
manufactured homes. But they

1763
00:58:27,709 --> 00:58:28,409
have to come in and ask for

1764
00:58:28,409 --> 00:58:32,609
done for a case for that with

1765
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:35,976
at that time. I think making a

1766
00:58:35,976 --> 00:58:36,675
decision now based on not

1767
00:58:36,675 --> 00:58:37,343
facts, but what ifs. And you

1768
00:58:37,343 --> 00:58:37,976
know what MAY happen in the

1769
00:58:37,976 --> 00:58:41,576
future is a wrong way to

1770
00:58:41,909 --> 00:58:43,909
approach us.

1771
00:58:44,976 --> 00:58:45,709
>> But I've seen this, you

1772
00:58:45,709 --> 00:58:47,942
know, after 4 years and the St

1773
00:58:47,942 --> 00:58:49,809
ours and when we

1774
00:58:49,809 --> 00:58:51,809
>> allow.

1775
00:58:54,609 --> 00:58:55,776
>> a zoning change. We have to

1776
00:58:55,776 --> 00:58:58,176
prepare ourselves for our

1777
00:59:03,743 --> 00:59:04,410
future. So changes? Also think

1778
00:59:04,410 --> 00:59:07,410
we need to deeply consider

1779
00:59:12,943 --> 00:59:13,676
staff's recommendation.

1780
00:59:13,676 --> 00:59:17,210
>> Come down on the side of us

1781
00:59:17,210 --> 00:59:19,610
and isolated situation. Not

1782
00:59:22,776 --> 00:59:23,443
entirely of they're doing.

1783
00:59:23,443 --> 00:59:25,843
That that's the overriding

1784
00:59:29,543 --> 00:59:30,210
principle for me.

1785
00:59:30,210 --> 00:59:30,876
>> to hear a motion of any

1786
00:59:30,876 --> 00:59:33,276
circumstance, you say final

1787
00:59:33,743 --> 00:59:36,477
make a motion. So I'm gonna

1788
00:59:36,477 --> 00:59:39,477
make a motion to. Secondary

1789
00:59:42,477 --> 00:59:44,977
this. To approve the special

1790
00:59:44,977 --> 00:59:47,977
use overlay. On the condition

1791
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:49,310
that it's for the 3

1792
00:59:49,310 --> 00:59:51,710
manufactured homes that have

1793
00:59:54,410 --> 00:59:56,810
that were issued permits.

1794
00:59:58,911 --> 00:59:59,644
Every second. Quick question.

1795
00:59:59,644 --> 01:00:02,770
Those 3 permits. Those do have

1796
01:00:02,770 --> 01:00:04,477
the numbers are right.

1797
01:00:09,977 --> 01:00:13,577
>> Yes, they do. Was that a

1798
01:00:14,844 --> 01:00:15,511
second chance? Motion? And

1799
01:00:15,511 --> 01:00:18,110
second could got a question

1800
01:00:18,110 --> 01:00:22,211
real quick for a vote. So if

1801
01:00:22,411 --> 01:00:23,211
this passes mean taking?

1802
01:00:23,211 --> 01:00:23,844
>> Come back. And the

1803
01:00:23,844 --> 01:00:26,244
manufacturer homes on the

1804
01:00:27,978 --> 01:00:30,378
property. Sponsors means they

1805
01:00:38,778 --> 01:00:41,178
are pulled the 7 out

1806
01:00:44,678 --> 01:00:45,878
>> I mean, what the boss in I

1807
01:00:45,878 --> 01:00:47,945
don't know that that's

1808
01:00:47,945 --> 01:00:48,978
beneficial to because again,

1809
01:00:48,978 --> 01:00:49,978
because we had a specific area

1810
01:00:49,978 --> 01:00:52,120
carved out for these 10 units,

1811
01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:53,245
you saw it on the sly.

1812
01:00:53,245 --> 01:00:56,712
>> So many it looks very on to

1813
01:00:56,712 --> 01:00:57,445
have 3 units up there that are

1814
01:00:57,445 --> 01:00:58,112
sitting alone. So I don't know

1815
01:00:58,112 --> 01:01:01,112
that it's beneficial for us

1816
01:01:01,245 --> 01:01:01,845
just to do that. 3. And I do

1817
01:01:01,845 --> 01:01:03,845
understand your concern

1818
01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:05,245
because the basis of our

1819
01:01:05,245 --> 01:01:05,945
business is where

1820
01:01:05,945 --> 01:01:06,612
manufacturing housing that is

1821
01:01:06,612 --> 01:01:09,120
100% correct. That's how we

1822
01:01:09,146 --> 01:01:11,790
entered the market many years

1823
01:01:11,790 --> 01:01:13,312
ago. But we have one into the

1824
01:01:13,312 --> 01:01:14,120
rv market and it is very

1825
01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:14,679
beneficial for us. It's very

1826
01:01:14,679 --> 01:01:17,545
beneficial for us because a

1827
01:01:17,545 --> 01:01:19,479
lot of families starting

1828
01:01:19,479 --> 01:01:20,145
resorts like the one we have

1829
01:01:20,145 --> 01:01:22,612
down here and then they MAY

1830
01:01:22,612 --> 01:01:23,312
end up in one of our 55 plus

1831
01:01:23,312 --> 01:01:24,112
communities in Florida later

1832
01:01:24,112 --> 01:01:24,812
they might tell a family

1833
01:01:24,812 --> 01:01:27,612
member about us because we're

1834
01:01:27,612 --> 01:01:28,279
a big name in this industry.

1835
01:01:28,279 --> 01:01:30,979
Our intent is not to change

1836
01:01:30,979 --> 01:01:32,846
this resort into that. We

1837
01:01:32,846 --> 01:01:33,812
wouldn't even be standing here

1838
01:01:33,812 --> 01:01:34,446
if there were units

1839
01:01:34,446 --> 01:01:36,312
manufactured homes there

1840
01:01:36,312 --> 01:01:36,946
before we wouldn't be here.

1841
01:01:36,946 --> 01:01:37,680
This wouldn't even be a

1842
01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:40,680
conversation if they were here

1843
01:01:41,113 --> 01:01:43,113
before. Again, we we went to a

1844
01:01:43,113 --> 01:01:45,479
meeting in DECEMBER of last

1845
01:01:45,479 --> 01:01:46,346
year trying to clarify that it

1846
01:01:46,346 --> 01:01:48,246
was ok because we know how are

1847
01:01:48,246 --> 01:01:49,446
currently zoned. We didn't

1848
01:01:49,446 --> 01:01:51,346
know that the mh units. We do

1849
01:01:51,346 --> 01:01:53,279
know that the bump that we ran

1850
01:01:53,279 --> 01:01:53,946
into, but that's why we have

1851
01:01:53,946 --> 01:01:54,646
that meeting. And again, we

1852
01:01:54,646 --> 01:01:55,313
wouldn't be standing here if

1853
01:01:55,313 --> 01:01:58,746
we didn't have them in the

1854
01:01:58,746 --> 01:01:59,379
past. And that's not that's

1855
01:01:59,379 --> 01:02:00,460
not where we're going. I

1856
01:02:00,460 --> 01:02:03,460
promise you. We don't have

1857
01:02:03,246 --> 01:02:04,180
indoor polls and outdoor pools

1858
01:02:04,180 --> 01:02:04,880
and activities programs and

1859
01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:08,480
all of that typically for me

1860
01:02:09,546 --> 01:02:10,213
communities.

1861
01:02:10,213 --> 01:02:12,546
>> We have a motion and we

1862
01:02:12,546 --> 01:02:14,546
have a second.

1863
01:02:14,847 --> 01:02:16,113
>> One other point before we

1864
01:02:16,113 --> 01:02:19,580
go, make sure we keep insight

1865
01:02:19,580 --> 01:02:20,280
that is recommending body and

1866
01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:20,913
the decision will be made by

1867
01:02:20,913 --> 01:02:23,913
city Council for for the

1868
01:02:27,447 --> 01:02:30,447
final. Action on this request.

1869
01:02:31,980 --> 01:02:32,680
>> So we have a motion is that

1870
01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:33,914
thank you for the questions.

1871
01:02:33,914 --> 01:02:34,247
Would you take a roll call,

1872
01:02:34,247 --> 01:02:35,913
please.

1873
01:02:35,913 --> 01:02:37,913
>> Commissioner I Commissioner

1874
01:02:42,180 --> 01:02:44,140
Rudy. Commissioner Taylor.

1875
01:02:44,140 --> 01:02:46,140
>> Commissioner Mathis. I

1876
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:48,880
Commissioner Alan.

1877
01:02:49,214 --> 01:02:51,214
Commissioner Henry.

1878
01:02:52,347 --> 01:02:54,347
Commissioner brazen. Vice

1879
01:02:59,514 --> 01:03:01,914
chair, also. Chair Sonia. 5

1880
01:03:03,581 --> 01:03:05,581
yes's.

1881
01:03:06,514 --> 01:03:08,214
>> The motion carries make

1882
01:03:08,214 --> 01:03:10,614
sure you restricted to 3

1883
01:03:17,614 --> 01:03:20,614
manufactured homes. It's up to

1884
01:03:23,150 --> 01:03:23,615
6. Dash, 2, 6, 1, Public

1885
01:03:23,615 --> 01:03:25,615
recommendation to City

1886
01:03:29,281 --> 01:03:31,215
Council. Requested by. It's a

1887
01:03:31,215 --> 01:03:34,215
one. Real on behalf of 8, 3,

1888
01:03:36,615 --> 01:03:38,115
9, voices Street llc to

1889
01:03:38,115 --> 01:03:40,115
rezone. Approximately 0.1, 7

1890
01:03:40,482 --> 01:03:44,682
sense of an acre. But it was

1891
01:03:46,582 --> 01:03:47,415
are edition. Lot of 5 lot, 9

1892
01:03:47,415 --> 01:03:50,415
from art dash, 2 single family

1893
01:03:54,982 --> 01:03:56,549
into family district. To see

1894
01:03:56,549 --> 01:03:58,949
It's up commercial office,

1895
01:03:59,182 --> 01:04:01,949
strict district with a special

1896
01:04:01,949 --> 01:04:02,615
use overly to a lot of

1897
01:04:02,615 --> 01:04:04,615
short-term rental residents

1898
01:04:04,715 --> 01:04:06,715
currently addressed 8, 3, 9

1899
01:04:09,182 --> 01:04:10,482
oasis Tree.

1900
01:04:10,482 --> 01:04:12,882
>> The subject property is

1901
01:04:13,149 --> 01:04:14,249
located on the north side of

1902
01:04:14,249 --> 01:04:16,249
Oasis Street, approximately

1903
01:04:16,882 --> 01:04:17,449
125 the east of right street

1904
01:04:17,449 --> 01:04:19,849
and the Oasis Street

1905
01:04:21,649 --> 01:04:24,490
intersection. The law is

1906
01:04:24,582 --> 01:04:26,449
approximately 0.1 7 acres and

1907
01:04:26,449 --> 01:04:28,449
is developed with

1908
01:04:28,449 --> 01:04:30,449
approximately 1002 1200 Square

1909
01:04:31,249 --> 01:04:34,249
Foot House with 3 bedrooms and

1910
01:04:34,449 --> 01:04:35,583
2 bathrooms. Abutting land

1911
01:04:35,583 --> 01:04:36,616
uses are residential with a

1912
01:04:36,616 --> 01:04:37,483
warehouse located at the

1913
01:04:37,483 --> 01:04:39,883
southwest corner of Right

1914
01:04:41,316 --> 01:04:42,160
Avenue and Oasis Street and an

1915
01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:42,783
automotive repair used at the

1916
01:04:42,783 --> 01:04:45,183
northeast corner of right

1917
01:04:45,449 --> 01:04:46,783
Avenue and Pine Street. The

1918
01:04:46,783 --> 01:04:49,783
property is currently zoned r

1919
01:04:50,583 --> 01:04:51,583
2 short-term rentals are not

1920
01:04:51,583 --> 01:04:53,516
allowed in a residential

1921
01:04:53,516 --> 01:04:54,217
zoning district there for the

1922
01:04:54,217 --> 01:04:56,350
property must be rezoned to a

1923
01:04:56,350 --> 01:04:57,383
non residential district at

1924
01:04:57,383 --> 01:04:59,250
the same time is requesting

1925
01:04:59,250 --> 01:05:01,983
the special use overly to

1926
01:05:01,983 --> 01:05:04,830
allow a short-term rental use.

1927
01:05:04,830 --> 01:05:05,783
Therefore, the applicant is

1928
01:05:05,783 --> 01:05:07,483
here requesting to change the

1929
01:05:07,483 --> 01:05:10,250
base, owning a property of the

1930
01:05:10,250 --> 01:05:11,830
property to commercial office

1931
01:05:11,830 --> 01:05:13,483
district along with that

1932
01:05:14,383 --> 01:05:17,383
special use over late the

1933
01:05:18,650 --> 01:05:20,617
commercial office district at

1934
01:05:20,617 --> 01:05:22,617
residential notably a

1935
01:05:22,850 --> 01:05:23,817
single-family residence and

1936
01:05:23,817 --> 01:05:24,517
also allows office uses at

1937
01:05:24,517 --> 01:05:27,517
some light commercial uses by

1938
01:05:29,517 --> 01:05:31,450
right? This slide shows the

1939
01:05:31,450 --> 01:05:32,117
exterior and some of the

1940
01:05:32,117 --> 01:05:34,950
interior of the house under

1941
01:05:34,950 --> 01:05:35,650
the city's current as tr

1942
01:05:35,650 --> 01:05:38,500
occupancy rules are residents

1943
01:05:39,217 --> 01:05:40,484
of this size, a host up to 8

1944
01:05:40,484 --> 01:05:43,170
occupants and is required to

1945
01:05:43,170 --> 01:05:44,251
have at least 3 paved

1946
01:05:44,251 --> 01:05:45,217
off-street parking spaces,

1947
01:05:45,217 --> 01:05:48,817
which it does appear that the

1948
01:05:49,217 --> 01:05:49,951
law can accommodate. The

1949
01:05:49,951 --> 01:05:52,584
applicant has submitted a site

1950
01:05:52,584 --> 01:05:53,817
plan and a floor plan that

1951
01:05:53,817 --> 01:05:56,817
depicts the retention of the

1952
01:05:56,851 --> 01:05:58,118
residential character of the

1953
01:05:58,118 --> 01:05:58,818
structure and staff notes that

1954
01:05:58,818 --> 01:06:01,818
any future changes to either

1955
01:06:02,451 --> 01:06:03,784
this site plan or the floor

1956
01:06:03,784 --> 01:06:04,484
plan would require amendment

1957
01:06:04,484 --> 01:06:09,384
to this to the U.S. Up. If it

1958
01:06:09,384 --> 01:06:10,484
is approved. The nearest

1959
01:06:10,484 --> 01:06:12,452
existing short-term rentals

1960
01:06:12,452 --> 01:06:13,118
are located approximately one

1961
01:06:13,118 --> 01:06:16,118
block South West, which is

1962
01:06:16,751 --> 01:06:18,351
about 700 feet away along

1963
01:06:18,351 --> 01:06:21,951
Oasis Street. And it's and the

1964
01:06:22,151 --> 01:06:23,385
property that property zoned

1965
01:06:23,385 --> 01:06:25,385
industrial. Situated across

1966
01:06:25,718 --> 01:06:28,718
from an existing warehouse. So

1967
01:06:31,485 --> 01:06:32,218
staff notes that this cons

1968
01:06:32,218 --> 01:06:35,818
context differs a lot with the

1969
01:06:36,285 --> 01:06:36,985
current subject site which

1970
01:06:36,985 --> 01:06:41,185
also sits in the middle of a

1971
01:06:44,452 --> 01:06:46,585
residential block. There's no

1972
01:06:46,585 --> 01:06:47,252
adjacent commercial or

1973
01:06:47,252 --> 01:06:49,252
industrial uses immediately

1974
01:06:51,485 --> 01:06:53,318
around the property. Staff

1975
01:06:53,318 --> 01:06:55,152
recommends denial. The Co

1976
01:06:55,152 --> 01:06:55,785
district is New Braunfels

1977
01:06:55,785 --> 01:06:57,785
least intense commercial

1978
01:06:59,585 --> 01:07:01,985
zoning district. It's. Mixed

1979
01:07:02,486 --> 01:07:03,252
use. Character is intended to

1980
01:07:03,252 --> 01:07:04,352
balance opportunities for low

1981
01:07:04,352 --> 01:07:06,352
intensity, neighborhood skill

1982
01:07:07,586 --> 01:07:08,285
and walkable commercial uses.

1983
01:07:08,285 --> 01:07:09,686
While protecting the

1984
01:07:09,686 --> 01:07:10,986
residential character of the

1985
01:07:10,986 --> 01:07:12,986
surrounding neighborhoods.

1986
01:07:13,860 --> 01:07:14,552
However, it because this

1987
01:07:14,552 --> 01:07:16,952
subject property is mid-block

1988
01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:20,520
in. It does have those

1989
01:07:20,986 --> 01:07:22,653
adjacent residential uses. We

1990
01:07:22,653 --> 01:07:24,186
staff feels like it would be

1991
01:07:24,186 --> 01:07:26,186
dedicated to negatively

1992
01:07:28,319 --> 01:07:28,953
impacting those properties.

1993
01:07:28,953 --> 01:07:31,953
And a guest of short-term

1994
01:07:32,586 --> 01:07:34,119
rental at this location would

1995
01:07:34,119 --> 01:07:34,786
be required to drive into an

1996
01:07:34,786 --> 01:07:36,786
existing intact residential

1997
01:07:38,519 --> 01:07:39,186
neighborhood. The nearby

1998
01:07:39,186 --> 01:07:41,586
short-term rentals that are

1999
01:07:43,286 --> 01:07:45,686
located nearby. They actually

2000
01:07:47,153 --> 01:07:47,920
are zoned industrial. So i

2001
01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:48,553
just wanted to emphasize that

2002
01:07:48,553 --> 01:07:51,530
and they have an existing

2003
01:07:51,530 --> 01:07:51,887
warehouse across the street.

2004
01:07:51,887 --> 01:07:54,253
If the commission is inclined

2005
01:07:54,253 --> 01:07:56,353
to approve this request, staff

2006
01:07:56,353 --> 01:07:58,220
recommends the following

2007
01:07:58,220 --> 01:07:59,220
conditions, the residential

2008
01:07:59,220 --> 01:08:01,320
character, the property must

2009
01:08:01,320 --> 01:08:02,320
be maintained and the property

2010
01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:05,220
will remain in compliance with

2011
01:08:05,220 --> 01:08:08,220
the approved site floor plan.

2012
01:08:09,820 --> 01:08:11,820
At this time me going to these

2013
01:08:11,820 --> 01:08:12,920
notifications. Public hearing

2014
01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:16,520
notices were sent to owners of

2015
01:08:16,820 --> 01:08:17,554
26 properties within 200 feet

2016
01:08:17,554 --> 01:08:19,454
and staff received 4 responses

2017
01:08:19,454 --> 01:08:21,854
in opposition. Accounting for

2018
01:08:23,154 --> 01:08:25,554
11% of the notification area.

2019
01:08:27,220 --> 01:08:28,387
And one response in support.

2020
01:08:28,387 --> 01:08:29,821
Unless the opposition

2021
01:08:29,821 --> 01:08:30,520
increases a supermajority vote

2022
01:08:30,520 --> 01:08:33,387
of city council would not be

2023
01:08:33,387 --> 01:08:34,540
required to approve this

2024
01:08:34,540 --> 01:08:35,687
applicants request. If you

2025
01:08:35,687 --> 01:08:36,821
have any questions, I'm happy

2026
01:08:36,821 --> 01:08:38,821
to answer regarding

2027
01:08:41,721 --> 01:08:43,721
application. Commissioners,

2028
01:08:45,388 --> 01:08:46,540
any questions for staff?

2029
01:08:46,540 --> 01:08:49,540
>> Thank you quick. And is

2030
01:08:54,888 --> 01:08:55,554
here to present.

2031
01:08:55,554 --> 01:08:58,554
>> your name and whether a

2032
01:08:59,188 --> 01:09:00,221
resident New Braunfels.

2033
01:09:00,221 --> 01:09:00,888
>> Hi, my name is yet to come.

2034
01:09:00,888 --> 01:09:04,488
One my non resident of New

2035
01:09:05,988 --> 01:09:07,155
Braunfels. I am a resident of

2036
01:09:07,155 --> 01:09:07,888
the como districts. Familiar

2037
01:09:07,888 --> 01:09:11,488
with the area, but it's just

2038
01:09:11,721 --> 01:09:13,755
outside city limits. Just a

2039
01:09:13,755 --> 01:09:14,855
little bit of backstory with

2040
01:09:14,855 --> 01:09:16,655
this property we have on this

2041
01:09:16,655 --> 01:09:17,355
property since 2008 and its

2042
01:09:17,355 --> 01:09:19,755
families throughout all this

2043
01:09:20,821 --> 01:09:23,822
time. A couple of years ago,

2044
01:09:23,822 --> 01:09:24,588
we decided to do every model

2045
01:09:24,588 --> 01:09:26,422
lien on the property which

2046
01:09:26,422 --> 01:09:27,550
turn out to be a beautiful

2047
01:09:27,550 --> 01:09:30,550
Used to be super small. 2

2048
01:09:30,555 --> 01:09:31,822
bedroom, one bath and we went

2049
01:09:31,822 --> 01:09:32,755
through the whole process of

2050
01:09:32,755 --> 01:09:35,388
permits and you 19 years all

2051
01:09:35,388 --> 01:09:38,988
that stuff to make it. A

2052
01:09:39,455 --> 01:09:41,855
really nice property after

2053
01:09:42,489 --> 01:09:43,922
remodeling this property. We

2054
01:09:43,922 --> 01:09:46,755
had one long-term resident. It

2055
01:09:46,755 --> 01:09:48,122
was a business owner here in

2056
01:09:48,122 --> 01:09:49,388
New Braunfels. Who leaves the

2057
01:09:49,388 --> 01:09:51,589
property for about a year. And

2058
01:09:51,589 --> 01:09:55,156
then after that, he bought a

2059
01:09:55,156 --> 01:09:55,922
house, its been vacant since

2060
01:09:55,922 --> 01:09:59,256
it's been really hard to lease

2061
01:09:59,256 --> 01:10:02,256
a property. It's Bacon for

2062
01:10:02,556 --> 01:10:04,220
almost a year and a half. And

2063
01:10:04,220 --> 01:10:06,389
we still have a mortgage on

2064
01:10:06,389 --> 01:10:07,560
the property. So at this

2065
01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:10,656
point, we just want like at

2066
01:10:10,823 --> 01:10:14,423
least some type of income. So

2067
01:10:15,689 --> 01:10:18,689
we're seeing on this property.

2068
01:10:20,623 --> 01:10:22,156
Fast forward to this year. My

2069
01:10:22,156 --> 01:10:25,756
we are a family, you know,

2070
01:10:27,823 --> 01:10:30,290
people forward to these year.

2071
01:10:30,290 --> 01:10:30,856
My family and I kind of stay

2072
01:10:30,856 --> 01:10:33,256
during the summer and

2073
01:10:33,557 --> 01:10:34,256
altercations and we have

2074
01:10:34,256 --> 01:10:37,190
always in love with the city

2075
01:10:37,190 --> 01:10:37,890
of New Braunfels. I had a

2076
01:10:37,890 --> 01:10:41,490
slide show, but I'm sorry. I

2077
01:10:49,240 --> 01:10:51,390
think it's too late, too. That

2078
01:10:51,390 --> 01:10:54,990
is not business and work. You

2079
01:11:06,324 --> 01:11:09,324
can you a k project.

2080
01:11:10,124 --> 01:11:12,570
>> So we basically made this

2081
01:11:12,570 --> 01:11:14,900
property, the noises that New

2082
01:11:14,900 --> 01:11:15,910
Braunfels because it is

2083
01:11:15,910 --> 01:11:15,924
located on always history. It

2084
01:11:15,924 --> 01:11:19,724
was we thought that he was a

2085
01:11:19,724 --> 01:11:20,591
nice nice, though. I think

2086
01:11:20,591 --> 01:11:22,357
it's going to be a great

2087
01:11:22,357 --> 01:11:24,757
Airbnb because it's really

2088
01:11:26,391 --> 01:11:28,791
centrally located in minutes

2089
01:11:29,580 --> 01:11:29,657
away from water bar downtown

2090
01:11:29,657 --> 01:11:32,570
local shops, the museum

2091
01:11:33,924 --> 01:11:35,124
Buc-ee's another. Even I-35

2092
01:11:35,124 --> 01:11:36,124
and basically like I

2093
01:11:36,124 --> 01:11:37,924
mentioned, even when we get

2094
01:11:37,924 --> 01:11:38,691
people from out of state, we

2095
01:11:38,691 --> 01:11:39,558
usually bring them all the way

2096
01:11:39,558 --> 01:11:41,191
to New Braunfels because we

2097
01:11:41,191 --> 01:11:44,191
know the culture. We know

2098
01:11:47,358 --> 01:11:49,491
vive. I always support local,

2099
01:11:49,491 --> 01:11:53,910
you coffee shops and we love

2100
01:11:53,124 --> 01:11:54,258
the festival. I'm just coming

2101
01:11:54,258 --> 01:11:57,858
out of the routine from our,

2102
01:11:58,725 --> 01:11:59,391
you every day they to they

2103
01:11:59,391 --> 01:12:02,391
work. And then coming here

2104
01:12:02,791 --> 01:12:03,758
just to connect with nature.

2105
01:12:03,758 --> 01:12:07,358
With this Airbnb, I would like

2106
01:12:08,891 --> 01:12:11,891
to help the community a our

2107
01:12:11,891 --> 01:12:12,858
local tourism and creating and

2108
01:12:12,858 --> 01:12:13,525
supporting more local shops

2109
01:12:13,525 --> 01:12:15,925
and restaurants even local,

2110
01:12:16,992 --> 01:12:18,625
you know, handyman Sen

2111
01:12:18,625 --> 01:12:19,225
cleaning companies. I know one

2112
01:12:19,225 --> 01:12:22,225
of the concerns for the

2113
01:12:26,559 --> 01:12:28,959
neighborhood. Didn't one of

2114
01:12:31,910 --> 01:12:31,759
the concerns is that. They

2115
01:12:31,759 --> 01:12:34,759
don't they don't want, you

2116
01:12:35,792 --> 01:12:36,859
know, people that are.

2117
01:12:36,859 --> 01:12:37,925
Probably light drinking or

2118
01:12:37,925 --> 01:12:39,159
partying are being loud

2119
01:12:39,159 --> 01:12:39,725
because it is a really quiet

2120
01:12:39,725 --> 01:12:41,725
neighborhood. All the

2121
01:12:42,225 --> 01:12:42,892
neighbors are amazing. I

2122
01:12:42,892 --> 01:12:45,892
wouldn't want to the survey

2123
01:12:46,759 --> 01:12:49,558
any of these I have under

2124
01:12:49,558 --> 01:12:51,326
their be there's a setting

2125
01:12:51,326 --> 01:12:52,859
where you can either in stem

2126
01:12:52,859 --> 01:12:53,726
book or you have to approve of

2127
01:12:53,726 --> 01:12:56,559
the bookings. And this is what

2128
01:12:56,559 --> 01:12:57,592
I'm planning to do. 2 approval

2129
01:12:57,592 --> 01:13:00,359
of the book because even

2130
01:13:00,359 --> 01:13:02,359
myself, I wouldn't want any

2131
01:13:02,359 --> 01:13:03,920
party people or allow people

2132
01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:04,926
in my house that might be the

2133
01:13:04,926 --> 01:13:08,526
facility to trash the place or

2134
01:13:10,759 --> 01:13:11,526
doing our furniture. The first

2135
01:13:11,526 --> 01:13:15,126
few weeks that I didn't know

2136
01:13:15,859 --> 01:13:17,426
we needed to do a rezoning. We

2137
01:13:17,426 --> 01:13:19,793
had a a couple of guests that

2138
01:13:19,793 --> 01:13:21,993
everyone was really happy. Not

2139
01:13:21,993 --> 01:13:22,893
only with the house, but with

2140
01:13:22,893 --> 01:13:24,926
the convenience that they

2141
01:13:24,926 --> 01:13:27,600
didn't have to pay to 3 hotel

2142
01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:27,660
rooms and they have those

2143
01:13:27,660 --> 01:13:29,600
additional resources to

2144
01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:32,660
support the local shops in New

2145
01:13:36,993 --> 01:13:39,393
Braunfels. Do you have

2146
01:13:40,526 --> 01:13:44,126
questions for me? How did you

2147
01:13:45,727 --> 01:13:47,270
find out? I got a letter.

2148
01:13:47,270 --> 01:13:49,793
Basically we went live for him

2149
01:13:49,793 --> 01:13:53,393
and or be. And then after 2

2150
01:13:54,893 --> 01:13:56,270
weeks they receive a letter.

2151
01:13:56,270 --> 01:13:59,270
someone complain? No, I think

2152
01:13:59,930 --> 01:13:59,960
it's I don't know. It's part

2153
01:13:59,960 --> 01:14:00,860
of the

2154
01:14:00,860 --> 01:14:01,594
>> of cd to monitor like other

2155
01:14:01,594 --> 01:14:05,427
air Bnb. Is that going live on

2156
01:14:05,427 --> 01:14:08,194
the city? And of course, know

2157
01:14:08,194 --> 01:14:09,327
it's a lot to ask. You know,

2158
01:14:09,327 --> 01:14:11,940
like we don't plan to sell

2159
01:14:11,940 --> 01:14:11,761
this property, this is

2160
01:14:11,761 --> 01:14:13,761
probably going to be one of

2161
01:14:13,761 --> 01:14:14,527
those retirement homes because

2162
01:14:14,527 --> 01:14:16,561
we really like the community

2163
01:14:16,561 --> 01:14:20,161
and we love the city. So

2164
01:14:21,127 --> 01:14:24,127
basically. If there's like in

2165
01:14:24,161 --> 01:14:24,861
a condition that you allow me

2166
01:14:24,861 --> 01:14:28,328
to the rezoning and even any

2167
01:14:28,328 --> 01:14:31,194
moment. We decide to sell,

2168
01:14:31,194 --> 01:14:34,794
they can cancel that. We don't

2169
01:14:38,861 --> 01:14:39,494
want any profit. Basically.

2170
01:14:39,494 --> 01:14:42,494
>> When was last time you

2171
01:14:43,561 --> 01:14:44,228
tried to lease the property?

2172
01:14:44,228 --> 01:14:45,295
Well, it's actually on the

2173
01:14:45,295 --> 01:14:48,895
market for long term. But no

2174
01:14:51,695 --> 01:14:55,895
luck. Do you know if you are

2175
01:14:57,620 --> 01:14:58,128
overpriced? Yes, we are

2176
01:14:58,128 --> 01:14:58,828
overpriced compared to other

2177
01:14:58,828 --> 01:15:01,328
properties. But to be honest

2178
01:15:01,328 --> 01:15:03,228
with you, this is a one unique

2179
01:15:03,228 --> 01:15:03,862
property.

2180
01:15:03,862 --> 01:15:05,295
>> Most of the properties

2181
01:15:05,295 --> 01:15:05,995
around the neighborhood,

2182
01:15:05,995 --> 01:15:08,395
there's Their 2 bedroom, one

2183
01:15:10,328 --> 01:15:12,562
bath. Between a 10900 square

2184
01:15:12,562 --> 01:15:14,995
feet. This is a 3 bedroom, 2

2185
01:15:14,995 --> 01:15:16,762
bath and it's almost 1500

2186
01:15:16,762 --> 01:15:19,762
square feet Icr 2300 a month.

2187
01:15:21,329 --> 01:15:23,195
Yeah. That's probably it is so

2188
01:15:23,195 --> 01:15:23,895
beautiful. Property is just

2189
01:15:23,895 --> 01:15:27,620
and you know, like I said, we

2190
01:15:27,620 --> 01:15:27,762
have a mortgage we actually

2191
01:15:27,762 --> 01:15:30,162
thought about decreasing the

2192
01:15:31,960 --> 01:15:34,462
price. And we did the crease

2193
01:15:34,462 --> 01:15:38,620
surprise last It's just it was

2194
01:15:40,563 --> 01:15:41,462
expensive. Still. I mean, this

2195
01:15:41,462 --> 01:15:42,262
case. I know most of the

2196
01:15:42,262 --> 01:15:45,262
families that where our guest

2197
01:15:45,829 --> 01:15:46,929
on their bnb up, they were

2198
01:15:46,929 --> 01:15:48,563
really grateful. The fact that

2199
01:15:48,563 --> 01:15:50,363
like I said, they had more

2200
01:15:50,363 --> 01:15:53,263
resources to spend in the

2201
01:15:53,263 --> 01:15:54,229
community and that they have a

2202
01:15:54,229 --> 01:15:56,629
private inconvenience place to

2203
01:16:03,496 --> 01:16:07,960
just travel a lot and events.

2204
01:16:08,196 --> 01:16:09,396
This is a public hearing.

2205
01:16:09,396 --> 01:16:10,960
>> Anyone think speak in favor

2206
01:16:10,960 --> 01:16:13,696
of this are opposed to Please

2207
01:16:13,830 --> 01:16:16,230
come forward. Seeing none.

2208
01:16:16,330 --> 01:16:17,396
We'll close the public

2209
01:16:17,396 --> 01:16:19,396
hearing. Commissioners

2210
01:16:24,830 --> 01:16:26,830
questions, comments, motions.

2211
01:16:28,497 --> 01:16:29,797
>> My comments, I guess. They

2212
01:16:29,797 --> 01:16:32,797
get think sympathize with the

2213
01:16:33,430 --> 01:16:35,830
situation financially. I do

2214
01:16:36,197 --> 01:16:39,797
think we have to. In my

2215
01:16:40,630 --> 01:16:41,330
opinion set that aside. You

2216
01:16:41,330 --> 01:16:43,130
know, real estate market as a

2217
01:16:43,130 --> 01:16:43,563
whole is not what it was 4

2218
01:16:43,563 --> 01:16:44,297
years ago.

2219
01:16:44,297 --> 01:16:45,863
>> I think we have to be

2220
01:16:45,863 --> 01:16:46,564
careful using that as a

2221
01:16:46,564 --> 01:16:48,964
consideration because we can

2222
01:16:50,297 --> 01:16:51,970
see this popping up.

2223
01:16:51,970 --> 01:16:52,330
Especially given the current

2224
01:16:52,330 --> 01:16:55,330
climate. So my thoughts on

2225
01:16:55,664 --> 01:16:56,964
that.

2226
01:16:56,964 --> 01:16:58,530
>> And a notification. There

2227
01:16:58,530 --> 01:16:59,264
were some people neighbors are

2228
01:16:59,264 --> 01:17:02,264
objecting to. Is that correct?

2229
01:17:05,930 --> 01:17:06,631
Once on occasion, Mount. We've

2230
01:17:06,631 --> 01:17:09,397
had a Cooper live applicants

2231
01:17:09,397 --> 01:17:12,397
like this room. They were

2232
01:17:12,597 --> 01:17:13,364
looking change it to we've

2233
01:17:13,364 --> 01:17:13,964
discussed because it could

2234
01:17:13,964 --> 01:17:16,964
also be changed into an

2235
01:17:18,831 --> 01:17:21,831
office. Work goes over pretty

2236
01:17:22,698 --> 01:17:23,398
extensively in the 2 years.

2237
01:17:23,398 --> 01:17:26,164
>> So what's the distance of

2238
01:17:26,164 --> 01:17:29,164
the close us str? Mary? 700

2239
01:17:29,831 --> 01:17:31,565
feet.

2240
01:17:31,565 --> 01:17:35,165
>> issue is this is big block.

2241
01:17:36,465 --> 01:17:37,165
You know, are too

2242
01:17:37,165 --> 01:17:40,631
>> That and the other str is

2243
01:17:40,631 --> 01:17:42,165
in a different basis. Only in

2244
01:17:42,165 --> 01:17:42,898
the light industrial zoning

2245
01:17:42,898 --> 01:17:44,431
surrounded by light industrial

2246
01:17:44,431 --> 01:17:45,531
commercial zone properties. So

2247
01:17:45,531 --> 01:17:47,931
>> and what's the closest

2248
01:17:48,865 --> 01:17:51,865
commercial to this? I know

2249
01:17:54,980 --> 01:17:54,832
there's industrial.

2250
01:17:54,832 --> 01:17:57,832
>> The closest commercial is a

2251
01:17:59,798 --> 01:18:02,198
probably. 150 feet on the

2252
01:18:02,565 --> 01:18:03,265
corner. And I think it's pine

2253
01:18:03,265 --> 01:18:06,865
rise that auto shop there on

2254
01:18:07,399 --> 01:18:10,199
the court. I have a question

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01:18:10,199 --> 01:18:11,365
for the applicant.

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01:18:11,365 --> 01:18:12,990
>> So what was vision or did

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01:18:12,990 --> 01:18:14,132
John not know? Y'all just kind

2258
01:18:14,132 --> 01:18:16,632
of got excited and started

2259
01:18:16,632 --> 01:18:20,232
remodeling or I mean? Did you

2260
01:18:20,565 --> 01:18:21,566
see yourself doing this?

2261
01:18:21,566 --> 01:18:22,532
>> Well, our vision was to

2262
01:18:22,532 --> 01:18:24,399
remodel and Lisa for a couple

2263
01:18:24,399 --> 01:18:27,999
of more years until my father

2264
01:18:29,532 --> 01:18:30,166
decided to retire. Which he

2265
01:18:30,166 --> 01:18:33,766
says he's going to do any

2266
01:18:33,899 --> 01:18:34,599
time. Some Bush think it keeps

2267
01:18:34,599 --> 01:18:38,199
>> But it's been it's been a

2268
01:18:38,932 --> 01:18:39,299
nice experience now that it's

2269
01:18:39,299 --> 01:18:40,199
furnance.

2270
01:18:40,199 --> 01:18:42,599
>> Like I mentioned, we

2271
01:18:44,333 --> 01:18:46,466
usually come to 3 times a

2272
01:18:46,466 --> 01:18:47,133
month with the family and we

2273
01:18:47,133 --> 01:18:49,533
love to spend time. I mean,

2274
01:18:49,533 --> 01:18:51,933
just passed everything, you

2275
01:18:52,333 --> 01:18:53,330
know, like the water bar wine.

2276
01:18:53,330 --> 01:18:56,330
We have a local coffee shops

2277
01:18:56,330 --> 01:18:59,633
and is just the community. Do

2278
01:19:01,533 --> 01:19:02,200
not intend to. I am 10 to

2279
01:19:02,200 --> 01:19:04,566
continue with the values of

2280
01:19:04,566 --> 01:19:05,300
the city of New Braunfels. I

2281
01:19:05,300 --> 01:19:06,267
know how with space and that's

2282
01:19:06,267 --> 01:19:06,933
one of the reasons why we

2283
01:19:06,933 --> 01:19:07,600
don't want to sell this We

2284
01:19:07,600 --> 01:19:11,200
don't want to be forced to

2285
01:19:11,267 --> 01:19:14,267
sell Because we really like

2286
01:19:14,366 --> 01:19:15,670
this So was an intention to

2287
01:19:15,670 --> 01:19:15,633
move into the House full-time

2288
01:19:15,633 --> 01:19:17,633
government.

2289
01:19:19,900 --> 01:19:21,000
>> Yes.

2290
01:19:21,000 --> 01:19:22,330
>> And I'm like I mentioned, I

2291
01:19:22,330 --> 01:19:25,633
mean, I understand one of the

2292
01:19:26,367 --> 01:19:29,367
concerns maybe with the with

2293
01:19:29,467 --> 01:19:30,467
the neighbors could be like

2294
01:19:30,467 --> 01:19:32,800
loud noises most of the

2295
01:19:32,800 --> 01:19:34,000
advertising that I do. It's to

2296
01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:36,670
welcome families. Like I said,

2297
01:19:36,670 --> 01:19:38,200
I have to approve all the

2298
01:19:38,200 --> 01:19:39,767
guest and not only that, we

2299
01:19:39,767 --> 01:19:40,468
have security cameras to make

2300
01:19:40,468 --> 01:19:43,634
sure that they we have house

2301
01:19:43,634 --> 01:19:44,167
rules as well. That is they're

2302
01:19:44,167 --> 01:19:45,667
not follow weekend,

2303
01:19:45,667 --> 01:19:48,670
definitely, you know, just

2304
01:19:50,667 --> 01:19:51,301
Macomb, you way. I mean, I

2305
01:19:51,301 --> 01:19:54,267
understand this is like a

2306
01:19:54,267 --> 01:19:57,334
huge. Steps in says, you know,

2307
01:19:57,334 --> 01:20:00,867
far from. But it's in the

2308
01:20:00,867 --> 01:20:01,534
middle of the street. But if

2309
01:20:01,534 --> 01:20:03,934
there's any conditions, you

2310
01:20:05,567 --> 01:20:08,567
know, far as being. Probably

2311
01:20:08,601 --> 01:20:09,501
like, if the property cells

2312
01:20:09,501 --> 01:20:10,301
within the one or 2 years, you

2313
01:20:10,301 --> 01:20:13,901
know, we don't mind if you

2314
01:20:13,901 --> 01:20:14,601
cancel this request. The

2315
01:20:14,601 --> 01:20:18,201
change funding can go back to

2316
01:20:26,100 --> 01:20:28,401
residential. To reopen at

2317
01:20:31,680 --> 01:20:33,680
public. Yeah, be.

2318
01:20:36,334 --> 01:20:37,100
>> I move or dial. Motion.

2319
01:20:37,100 --> 01:20:39,134
Second, could we get a roll

2320
01:20:39,134 --> 01:20:41,134
please.

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01:20:41,702 --> 01:20:43,702
>> Commissioner Nulty.

2322
01:20:43,835 --> 01:20:45,835
Commissioner Rudy.

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01:20:46,469 --> 01:20:47,601
Commissioner Taylor.

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01:20:47,601 --> 01:20:50,100
Commissioner Matt this. All

2325
01:20:50,200 --> 01:20:51,902
right, Commissioner Alan.

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01:20:51,902 --> 01:20:53,902
Commissioner Henry.

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01:20:54,468 --> 01:20:56,468
Commissioner Brazier. Vice

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01:21:00,335 --> 01:21:03,335
chair. Also. Chair Sunday. I

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01:21:04,402 --> 01:21:06,335
>> motion is denied. Applicant

2330
01:21:06,335 --> 01:21:09,335
or application is denied. It

2331
01:21:11,502 --> 01:21:15,102
will go for us too. City

2332
01:21:17,360 --> 01:21:17,736
Council me. Do you know when

2333
01:21:17,736 --> 01:21:21,336
so weak to leave? That'll be