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Good evening.

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I caught to order the August 5th, 2026 meeting committee on administrative finance and law and public services, public hearing and regular meeting. The time is now 634.

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For the clerk, please call the roll.

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Alderman Roy Centeno.

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Alderman Hedera Maldonado.

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Alderman Luz or Teas Luna.

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Alderman John McNamara.

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here. Alderman Franciscos Santiago.

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Excuse.

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Alderman Alberto Barrero.

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Alderman Doddy D'Alernia.

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Alderman Jason Gibson.

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Alderman Robert Smedley.

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Alternate.

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Alderman Candace Scott.

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Seven present.

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You have a corn.

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at this time, will the clerk please read the motion, the record, notice of the public hearing.

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Mr. Chairman.

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Other woman Luna.

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I make a motion so we're reading of the legal notice.

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Other motion to be reading made by other woman Luna,

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sponsored second by other men,

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Alberto.

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Hi.

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motion passes. Thank you, Manford. This time, public hearing. The public hearing has been

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duly knowledge. We all know we are now begin the public hearing. Please remember that

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to state your name and address for the record and limit your speaking time to three minutes.

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And for the record, I see no one in public. Do we have any calls?

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No callers. This time public

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I'm sorry, I'm sorry, maybe I don't.

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Public hearing.

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The item for the public hearing is, thank you, man.

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Clerk, are 3, 7, 9, 9, day.

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Corporation, council, treasury, and register of voters.

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Should receive an increase of one dollar.

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The clerk of committee.

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So salaries be set at 30,000 per year.

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And the position duties.

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And ours, we expanded to one of the increase in salary.

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That's the only item we have on the other hand.

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Just for the record, I believe there was an amendment at the June 10th meeting, so the

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Corporation Council and Treasurer were removed, so as it stands in front of you, the motion

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is for the Registrar Votus to receive an increase of $1.00 and the Clerk committees as you

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stated.

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Thank you.

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Do we have to vote on that amendment?

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It was already voted on.

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Thank you.

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So meeting of the agenda is item number 1, 3719, Corporation Council, Treasurer and Register

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of voters shall receive an increase of one dollar.

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The clerk of committees salary be set at 30,000 per year.

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And the position of duties and hours be expanded to one at the increase in salary.

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May I have a motion?

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Thank you so much.

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The public hearing is closed at 638.

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Point of, point of information. Other, other, men, uh, McNamara. Okay. The, as noted by the corporation council,

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the June 10th meeting of the full council amended the resolution now before us, she can correct me to exclude

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Court Council and Treasurer from that first line item in the resolution.

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So we are acting on the amended resolution. Is that correct?

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That is correct.

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So that it simply reads now, it just calls for an increase of $1 for the registrars of voters

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without any other offices mentioned.

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That's correct. That's in the first bullet, and then you had the second bullet as well, which is a different bullet, obviously,

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but.

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So,

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so I'd like to put this on the floor.

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Impossible.

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I need a motion.

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I make a motion.

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I make a motion to approve the resolution as a method on June 10.

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The second for the purposes of discussion.

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motion to approve the item as noted on June 10th, as presented on June 10th, and second

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value woman Luna.

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Just as a clarification, just to approve not refer back.

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Oh, I'm sorry, we're in committee, I'm sorry, to refer it back to the full common council.

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Thank you.

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So, can you just restate your full motion?

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Now, okay, I might make a motion to refer the amended resolution on compensation to the

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Council with a neutral recommendation.

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The item was made a motion by Alderman McNamara to refer back to the common council

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with a neutral recommendation.

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Second, I owe the woman Luna on a favor.

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I think the court counsel and maybe Ms. Skolesbury or I think this is here to answer any of your questions with regard to either the budgetary impact of the clerk of committees.

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And also, could I just ask a attorney for Korsky to comment on this compensation ordinance

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that was changed in the recent past to give an option for officials to be in line with

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the 1186 contract for city employees in terms of cost of living increases?

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That's in the ordinance. Now, if you could, uh, turn it up of course.

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Just to show you the options, uh, for the compensation committee.

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Good evening. So two dash, three, three, eight of the code of ordinances.

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Um, sets forth the first part of it sets forth this procedure. Um, where the compensation committee is established.

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Makes a recommendation.

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back to the council, who refers it to administration finance a lot, where we are right now.

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And then administration finance a lot, can make a recommendation back to the council.

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And if the council were to approve that recommendation according to 2-338, the effective

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date, according to the ordinance, the effective date of any adjustments for those people

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who have two year terms would be the Tuesday following the mayoral election in each ad

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number year for the register of voters on the first day of the commencement of the term

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of office. And then there's also sections that state effective the Tuesday following mayoral

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elections of November 2023 and each applicable year thereafter if and only if there's

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no salary, modification, by resolution adopted by a majority vote, the common council,

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following the process set forth in subsections 1, 2, and 3.

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The tax, I'm sorry, the corporation council shall receive.

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Receive the same general wage increase as members of local 1186 for the same fiscal year. So, in other words, if you do not recommend an increase for the corporation council's position through this process, then according to this ordinance,

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Effective November of this year,

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Corporation Council will receive the same general wage increase

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as members of 1186,

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that they receive in the same fiscal year.

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And then there's also a section relevant to the

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Registrar voters,

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that states Effective January 6, 2022,

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and each applicable year thereafter,

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if there is no salary,

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modification recommended through this process, then the register of voters would receive

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the same general wage increase that was received by members of local 1186 as well.

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So again, if you do not recommend a salary modification for the register of voters, then

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they would receive the same general wage increase that 1186 received in July of this year.

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Yeah, thanks for that clarification.

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All the women are already.

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So we recommend it $1 for the registries.

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So do they just get a dollar then?

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So if it's passed, according to the ordinance,

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that dollar would not become effective until the commencement of their next term.

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So, then they wouldn't be getting a general wage increase this year, and you helped

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have to forgive me.

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I forget when their terms up, but they would not be getting a general wage increase until

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their next term begins, and it's the same for the corporation council.

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Correct.

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Well, corporation council is the two years, so obviously, corp council is next year.

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So you're going to do that for about twenty five four.

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Twenty twenty nine.

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Twenty two.

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Twenty me?

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Twenty seven?

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Twenty twenty seven?

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Did not serve.

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Twenty-to- implement..

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you.으sheve.

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magnitude. Twenty.

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Twenty twenty.

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Twenty-to

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- advanced.

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So. And if you did.

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And then.

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And if you did.

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six out this year, and then next November, the same would happen. If you did approve a general

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And then.

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region, please work for a council for this year, then that's what the reason that the position

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receive. So this applies to this year, though. Well, according to the ordinance, whatever you

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on becomes effective for the next term. You can change that in your resolution. So if our intent

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was to not provide a raise to court counsel, treasurer, or register, we should have left

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that one dollar in there. Correct. We need you should make it effective prior to the commencement

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of their next turn? Do you know what I'm saying? So it would be this turn. Correct. So you

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would have to say a dollar for corporation council for this year, this November, 2026, until

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their next compensation committee meets again. Does that make sense? I think so. So this

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it's was changed to sort of build in these raises in case no raise was given through this

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process and it's a little bit confusing. When was this order and it's done?

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I want to say it was changed in 2021. Was the last one? I'd have to take a look at it but

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it seems like according to the notes it says the last time it was changed was January 15th of 2021

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But I could be wrong on that. I could check.

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So when our registrers came and spoke to us about requesting an increase,

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where they aware that they would be getting a general wage increase,

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they were aware of the language.

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So even though Corp Council and Treasurer did not ask for an increase,

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you were also aware that you would be getting a general wage increase.

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Yes.

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and that language applies to the mayor's positions.

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That's a section 8 of the of 2-338. So the mayor will also be getting a general wage increase.

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If you get correct, according to the ordinance, if no salary modification is recommended through this process.

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So if we're even appointed positions or elected positions,

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unless it positions correct, yes.

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They get us increased.

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Because that language was added again last time.

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So previously, you didn't have the language where,

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if you did not, basically prior to those changes,

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whatever compensation committee ruled

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or the common council finally ruled,

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that would be the end of it.

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But then it was changed to add this language

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to sort of have these automatic increases

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if no salary modification was awarded

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through this process. So do these increases show up in the current budget? I think that they

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Amy could answer that but I believe that they probably budget on the safe side because there

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is that language in this ordinance? So they probably just want to make sure that it's in their

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just in case. So if we want, we could amend this again to put that dollar back in. Correct.

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for treasurer court counsel,

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but we don't have mayor here.

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No, you do not.

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And why was mayor not on here?

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I wasn't at the compensation committee meetings.

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I think probably because, you know, the mayor's office didn't court counsel.

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And the mayor's office didn't request any increases.

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So I think that's probably what the driving force was.

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But forgetting that these other sections were added to this ordinance.

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that sort of has built-in raises in case there's no salary modification through this process.

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And I don't see treasures not mentioned in an automatic increase in this language.

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So the only ones was town clerk, which is no longer elected, so that doesn't apply any longer

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and tax collector. That doesn't apply any longer, so it's court counsel,

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and then it's the

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gestures in the mayor.

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I would prefer to go back and put that dollar in. I mean, it seems, you know, why do we want to give these raises this term?

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And again, if you're saying a dollar, you just want to, if your intent is that you don't want them to have a raise this career, you're going to say a dollar this year, next year, until the next compensation committee.

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just so it's clear.

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Is it Amy?

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Yes, Amy's over here.

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So can you explain that this additional increases

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already included in the budget?

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So the additional increase is included in the budget

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for the registrars of voters.

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Even though we said they were just going to get a dollar.

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So because we did the budget so long ago I mean we do it in January so this is before

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any compensation committee mat so we just always air on the side of caution and we put

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the raise in the budget just in case they were going to get the 1186 raise so we want to

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make sure that we're budgeted for that.

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All right, so how much is that if we, we, we just said we were going to do the dollar?

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If we were going to do the dollar? Yeah. It'd be a dollar. What are we saving?

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Oh, we're saving about $1,000. We're saving about $1,800. Okay.

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Yeah. And that would be the same for core counsel, treasure, and a mayor.

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So we didn't put an increase for the mayor or the treasure or

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But they're going to get it,

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according what they're going to get it, they're going to get an increase.

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Well, you know, you know, in a way, I don't think the treasurer is included.

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Not the treasurer.

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Not the treasurer.

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And of course, the council is the other elected body that did not ask for an increase.

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And would probably not be part of that 11.86.

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It would not be part of the 11.86.

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Yeah, so so pinch your pennies the corporation council though in the mayor will get an increase

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If we if we do

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That's how I understand it. You can make an amendment, you know, at the end of the day, I think this will be ratified, but won't be ratified till the council by September, according to my calendar, right? So we can make an amendment, we could pass it as is, and it'll come back to the council as president stated, or we learned because of that recent change in the compensation ordinance.

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where I think the intent of that 1186 tie-in was to put some regularity in it so that we wouldn't have the registers started coming and saying well give us $10,000 more, which is what they asked for.

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No, and I get it, and I get it, but first of all, I wish I was more aware of it during the

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compensation meeting, but it just seems like, you know, the mayor is just into his new

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one to the office,

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well, Corp Council is different. What was the other one? No, there

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no longer elect it. It just seems, I think it looks bad to taxpayers to have us already

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giving a raise, how minor it might be.

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Can you, how much is that for the mayor off end?

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Mr. Chairman, you disappointed all the momentum.

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Just a point of regret.

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I think, I can't speak to the mayor,

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but I think his intent is not to accept a raise at all.

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Which very well can be, and that was my understanding, too,

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but they're saying it's going to be automatic.

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I believe with the 2021 provision, that's correct.

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So you guys can also amend this ordinance to remove those sections, that's obviously not part of this process, right?

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But if you're not, you don't want those automatic increases, you can amend that ordinance to remove those sections.

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His race is about $3,000.

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So we're looking so far, $5,000.

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I know it's minimal, it's still, it's the face of it and how it looks.

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So I would prefer, I would like to amend, I would like to go back and amend this,

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and add that dollar for core council treasures and include mayor's office.

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And it's true that mayor, I think, his intention was not to take a raise,

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but according to what I'm hearing, he will get one anyway.

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And I don't think that's what we want to see to taxpayers absorb

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absorb in such a short amount of time that he's been in office.

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Mr. Chairman, all the one Scott, I'm going to yield all the one stuff.

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So for the mayor, it wouldn't happen until next term, right?

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As well, right?

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No, because according to Section 7,

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Subsection 7, I don't know, I'm sorry.

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eight. It says effective Tuesday. The Tuesday following the mayor election of 2023, and each

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applicable year thereafter, if and only if there is no salary, modification by a resolution

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adopted by a majority vote of the council following the process of fourth and subsections

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one, two and three, that may or shall receive a one and a half percent cost of living increase.

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I mean, it just says a no event shall they may receive more than one salary increase per year.

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So, as I previously stated, Corp Council in the mayor, both said they didn't want raises,

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but you know, if you just want to make sure, then you would just, you could amend the resolution.

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I just have a, with Ms. Goldberg here on the second part of the resolution to add hours and

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compensation to the clerk of committees, which is now at $11,000 and really provides

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meeting coverage and so forth, is to make it, I believe that $30,000 amount is in the budgeted

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council approved budget for this fiscal year. That's correct. That's correct. So it's not

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adding any expenses to what we propose in the budget. No, and the mayor's increase I didn't

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realize it was one and a half percent so that would only be about $1,700 and not the $3,000. Thank you.

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Yeah, well that yeah, I just wanted to confirm that in terms of the second because

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because on that resolution I think as the council we have to be concerned about.

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But getting more staff support and more resources to do our represent our constituents. And, again,

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I have the last two or three budget cycles. I have done comparisons with comparable cities in terms

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of what resources are available to the council. Council, and I think we have a ways to go to give

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ourselves more staff support. So that's why that committee's line item or change is in there.

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And I don't think, you know, I think we can move forward that, just the issue is now

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who to include in the $1 or revert to $11.86.

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I agree with that, but I also have, I don't agree with the, I was the one to vote against

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the increase for the Clerk of Committees.

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We still don't have a job description.

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We have no idea what, it's 175% increase from 11,000 to 30,000.

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regardless of what other cities are doing to have such a big jump like that, and not have a description of what those job duties are.

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I mean that's not how you go about, if you were to put out a job application, you have your duties listed right there.

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You know what you're applying for, you know what the pay is. We have no idea what this is.

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I am strongly against that, but because the majority prevails, I would still like to have an amendment

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where we can amend this to add a dollar for court counsel, treasurer, and register

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as well as the mayor's office.

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I guess the ordinance speaks to the role and responsibility of the clerk committees.

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But again, the mayor has only been in office a few months, and to have the taxpayers, I just think it's a poor, poor showing.

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And I don't see why, again, if the departments mentioned here, including the mayor, have said they didn't want to make a race, so I think we ought to file other intent.

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And in order to do that, we need to amend it to add the power.

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Any other questions?

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The session should be like, I don't know.

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I just wanted to touch up on the Turks of committee, so not so great in math.

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But I mean, if we're increasing it to 30,000, I think first we have to approve the 30,000.

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so that we can kind of figure out the schedule,

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because even somebody working at minimum wage,

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40 hours, that's a little bit less than 36,000.

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This person's gonna be getting 30,000.

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So obviously it's a part-time position.

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And also it's to kind of take a little bit

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of some of the task and responsibilities

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from the administrator, from the council to this person to kind of offset to kind of help.

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So I'm okay with increasing it to 30,000 and again.

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The person that was, I don't know if you know it.

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I forgot, but how much was the person that was in that position as the administrator to the council?

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how much were they making before roughly before this budget or in this budget?

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This budget?

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60,000.

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Okay, so last budget.

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Over 100, over 100,000.

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So even though we are giving the raise, we're not, we're still saving money.

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All right, thank you.

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But that was that that that that amount was taken into consideration years here because my

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understanding is she was part of the Union's that correct yeah that's correct correct which

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the new person is at sixty thousand dollars so that's they're making forty fifty thousand

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dollars less than the person that was previously there

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what was more point of information

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if I could.

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That would make more.

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Yeah.

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In the ordinances of the Cleric Committees, duties and functions are fully

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delinated in terms of their job responsibilities and functions.

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And that could be adapted to a job description, but it's written into the world.

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And with the volume of business we have, and again, as I mentioned, if you look at the resources of comparable council, smaller cities, even side cities, the council is at a disadvantage right now.

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And needs that staff support. But respecting your wanting clarity on what the job entails, I can send that to you in what's in the ordinance now.

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We should have seen that already before we

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removed it on this.

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What those duties are.

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I would like to see that.

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Yes.

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I'm going to send that to you without

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compensation.

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Hold on.

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I do want to know.

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The clerk of committees is not here tonight

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and he hasn't been for the last couple of meetings.

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So.

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Well, he.

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That's far.

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He is.

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He did have.

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That's something.

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person, sorry. That's something very personal and we're not voting on the person he

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jumped in to help out because we were in desperate need. So he's there temporarily will see

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what happens after if we hire someone else but we're not voting on the person that's in that position

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right now. We're voting on just the position being increased to 30,000 dollars.

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So this is this is new to me. It's meant to be temporary and be filled again by somebody else

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By a person. I did not say by somebody else

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No, but I decided it's temporary. Yeah, but he jumped in to help. Yes, and just like we have some elder men's that

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Get paid we don't get paid much, but they missed meetings too and nobody has brought that up

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But anyways, we're not again. We're not discussing the person. We're discussing the position

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So, I'm going back to the other questions on the other woman's spare.

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I'm in full support of raising the position.

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The council needs support.

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If you visit other towns and I've been to other towns to their meetings,

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they have a lot more support and staff helping them

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and helping out the process and that really helps the public as well.

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It helps the constituents that we're working with to have that support.

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So we really need it and we're actually getting more, but we're spending less.

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So this is like a no-brainer, I think.

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So I think that we need to just move forward with this, so that we, the staff, that staff person will be assisting the other person as I understand.

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So whatever responsibilities she has or the person that we have right now is in that position.

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And this position will help support that position as a part-time person.

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And we need that, in case that person is out sick or the person is not that person is

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available or someone needs to go on vacation.

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We'll always have a staff and I've been on this council this is my second term and I've

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seen us not have anyone in that position and I think it'll be really great to have two

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people, so we'll have a backup plan of someone to be here to assist with the meetings,

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make sure we have our notes, all of that stuff.

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So, I'm in support of this.

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I'll do more than the earlier.

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I'll do more than the earlier.

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I'll do more than the earlier.

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So along with the job duties and description that, you know, tend to send, can you share

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that with all of us as well as our current council clerks?

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job duties as well. Right. It is, it is, I'll send you both. Thank you.

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So, kind of, the

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other.

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Well, I've, where was I? Where were we? I think we were the other one.

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Did all the one, all the women to learn, you want to make an amendment to the

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I'd like to amend the resolution, I don't number three, seven, one, nine, zero to include

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one dollar each for corporation council, treasurer, the mayor, as well as register of voters.

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So the amendment on four is that dollar increase for the corporation council.

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I'm sorry.

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Second, I'm sorry. A second for the amendment.

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Second, if we're purpose of discussion.

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Second, by all of them in McNamara. All in favour?

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All in favour?

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All in favour? All in favour? All in favour? All in favour? All in favour?

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But, well, again, again I appreciate we have two separate tracks going on with compensation

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because of the change in the compensation ordinance itself.

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So the Court Council has clarified that if we do not act in 1186 takes effect for those

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offices identified, which is 2K, a cost of living, cost of living, and I think this was

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done four years ago.

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I think, again, the good intentions for regularity, but it also, in my view, weakened the

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powers of the council to study and establish what would be fair every even year, because

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So this is going to come back around in 2028, again, it happens every two years.

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So I'm comfortable moving this forward as amended with our upgrade to the Clerk

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who committees, and again it has to come back to the full council that we can get an assurance

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from the court counsel that the action is fulfill the current ordinance and what it calls

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for us to do.

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I just think again you're saying $1, but do you want to be clear on when that becomes effective?

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It would be effective for the current, I guess it's the current budget cycle and each year

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their after until another compensation committee,

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then each year after, and each year after,

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yes, compensation committee meets every two years, and January of each, each even number

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year.

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So the next one would be 2028,

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yes.

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So the amendment is to, as all of them in McNamara state, for information purposes, you said the amendment, all of them in McNamara.

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So the amendment is to add corporation council, treasurer and mayor.

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Yeah. And so rather than amending the amendment, maybe we should take a vote on that and then add that other

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language we were just talking about it to make it clear. So we would have the first amendment voted on and then if you want to add the effective

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language, we can add that next. So first, the one day, all the women, the

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And you know, just characteristics or amendments to include cooperation council.

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Treasurer, treasurer, and mayor.

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And the mayor?

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To the first bullet, yes.

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To the first.

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Any further discussion?

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Just on the benefit of it is it comes back to the full council and if something occurs

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to us, the court council alluded to that ordinance is going to be changed for more clarity,

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which maybe it should be in terms of the compensation ordinance.

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True.

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It won't be done in the United States.

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That's another night.

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Correct.

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So as the item has amended, any further discussion?

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On the favor?

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I don't agree with the amendment.

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I think that it's okay to leave the mayor

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with getting the natural rays currently to the cost of living.

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The mayor works more than 40 hours a week.

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And I think that whoever is in the mayor seat

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should automatically get that rays.

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That's just my opinion on that.

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Other woman might enough.

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I support the mayor's race since he's been...

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We're working so much, especially trying to fix things. So I support it. And also going back to the 30,000, it's going to be a new job description. So it's going to be more hours and more work to that person. So I support that.

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Thank you.

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All the ones that are in.

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Again, I just want to remind everybody that the intent by the mayor was not to get a raise, which is, I would think he'd be in full support of the one dollar.

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I agree that that was his attempt, his intent, but that doesn't mean that we can't make that decision today.

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All the men.

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Maximum.

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Nothing.

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All right.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Any further discussion on the amendment?

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All in favor?

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Hi.

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All in that?

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Naze?

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Naze.

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How many names do we have?

463
00:46:03,980 --> 00:46:05,700
One, two, three, four.

464
00:46:05,700 --> 00:46:09,900
And the eyes have it.

465
00:46:09,940 --> 00:46:11,260
So, I mean, fails.

466
00:46:13,020 --> 00:46:14,460
So, the knees have it.

467
00:46:15,020 --> 00:46:17,220
It was four to two.

468
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:20,360
So, can we just, just so we're clear in the vote?

469
00:46:20,460 --> 00:46:22,640
Can we just show hands of who?

470
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:26,160
Just for clarification, show hands for high, nay.

471
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:27,360
I mean, not high.

472
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:29,120
Two. Okay.

473
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:31,280
Thanks.

474
00:46:31,460 --> 00:46:33,860
Naze, showing you

475
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:38,660
the Naze habit.

476
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:43,500
Moving on to the next amendment, right?

477
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:44,400
Court appreciate the council.

478
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:47,780
No, so this first amendment failed, so there's no.

479
00:46:47,780 --> 00:46:49,620
Oh, unless you want to make the effective date.

480
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:52,540
So, no, the other.

481
00:46:53,240 --> 00:46:55,220
Can we make an amendment,

482
00:46:55,580 --> 00:46:58,420
we're with just the register of others.

483
00:46:58,420 --> 00:47:03,600
in the curb council without the mayor.

484
00:47:04,140 --> 00:47:08,580
So the mayor would be left out of us.

485
00:47:08,780 --> 00:47:12,900
So the memo now is two, you want to make that memo?

486
00:47:12,900 --> 00:47:14,040
Are you making that memo?

487
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:21,680
I like to make an amendment that we just have the register voters

488
00:47:22,340 --> 00:47:25,160
in the curb council getting the dollar raise.

489
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:34,760
The amendment on the floor from all the women's guys to register voters in the corporation

490
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:35,560
council?

491
00:47:35,780 --> 00:47:36,060
Yeah.

492
00:47:36,380 --> 00:47:38,040
Are the only ones for the dollar?

493
00:47:38,140 --> 00:47:38,620
Yes.

494
00:47:38,700 --> 00:47:40,320
Not the mayor.

495
00:47:40,820 --> 00:47:41,360
Any discussion?

496
00:47:41,860 --> 00:47:42,780
On the other one?

497
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:43,260
On the other one?

498
00:47:43,300 --> 00:47:43,980
We need a second.

499
00:47:44,260 --> 00:47:44,640
A second?

500
00:47:44,720 --> 00:47:44,940
I'm sorry.

501
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:46,780
A second?

502
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:47,320
Second?

503
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:48,280
By all the women.

504
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:49,460
My greenado?

505
00:47:53,510 --> 00:47:57,530
It boggles in my mind why we would show favoritism like they have to admit, I mean the

506
00:47:57,530 --> 00:48:05,810
corp council works many hours too, as you can see, someone is sitting right here, as

507
00:48:05,810 --> 00:48:06,650
due to treasurer.

508
00:48:07,650 --> 00:48:12,530
Again, what are we saying to our taxpayers that we want them here to have a race in the

509
00:48:12,530 --> 00:48:13,490
first few months?

510
00:48:14,410 --> 00:48:16,790
I really think we should think hard about this.

511
00:48:17,850 --> 00:48:23,150
And it's not a matter of saying he's not doing a work or not deserving of it, it's just

512
00:48:23,150 --> 00:48:31,950
this period. We're not even a full year in. Let's think about what we're doing here. We're

513
00:48:31,950 --> 00:48:39,230
showing him that favoritism, which really isn't, it's not needed or necessary at this point

514
00:48:39,230 --> 00:48:39,610
time.

515
00:48:39,610 --> 00:48:48,730
Just a point of information is this the core council pertains to the corporation council

516
00:48:51,310 --> 00:48:58,210
Mr. Rivera this is what this pertains to I don't believe it pertains to our our city attorneys

517
00:48:59,270 --> 00:49:05,810
So that's that's the the job we're talking about here and and

518
00:49:07,070 --> 00:49:17,810
You know, in a perfect world, a COO was created a few years ago by referendum that said 150,000,

519
00:49:20,190 --> 00:49:22,610
which was the state of salary.

520
00:49:24,230 --> 00:49:25,830
So we could quib.

521
00:49:26,270 --> 00:49:32,910
I admire the intent of making sure that the mayors included in coal is,

522
00:49:34,490 --> 00:49:51,810
I'm kind of standing by your intent here and again it'll come back to the council in September for ratification and again it's not the amount it's I think it's the perception that concerns me

523
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:17,120
Just as a point of order, again, I just want you to all understand that if you're just saying a dollar, then that becomes effective on the next term for court counsel and the registrar voters, and we still have the language of the ordinance for this year.

524
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,500
Unless you change the effective date.

525
00:50:39,310 --> 00:50:42,410
And what would that effective date be? Would it be immediately?

526
00:50:42,410 --> 00:50:42,630
You

527
00:50:44,710 --> 00:50:54,630
could make that decision you could say November, since that's when the raises come out.

528
00:50:55,170 --> 00:50:59,410
So, according to the ordinance for Corp Council, it's November of each year.

529
00:51:00,150 --> 00:51:03,330
The registrars is January of each year.

530
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:12,220
So, you could say January of this year for the registrars November of this year for the Corp Council,

531
00:51:12,220 --> 00:51:20,280
or you could say, January of next year for the registrars, you can, whatever, the council desires.

532
00:51:23,620 --> 00:51:28,340
I think it makes sense to say for this year, at least for this year.

533
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:41,480
I just want to say it's not favoritism when we're following the ordinance.

534
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:43,540
I just want to make that clear.

535
00:51:53,620 --> 00:52:04,700
This is all the one Scott's amendment to the amended from June 10 to exclude the mayor,

536
00:52:04,820 --> 00:52:07,640
but add the court counsel to the one dollar raise.

537
00:52:08,820 --> 00:52:10,900
That's what we're voting on.

538
00:52:11,540 --> 00:52:11,600
Correct.

539
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:14,380
Just adding court counsel.

540
00:52:15,180 --> 00:52:16,800
Register of voters is already there.

541
00:52:16,940 --> 00:52:18,740
She just wants to add court prison counsel.

542
00:52:27,450 --> 00:52:35,950
And there it is, on the amendment to add the mayor in the court counsel for the increase of one dollar.

543
00:52:35,990 --> 00:52:37,970
Just the mayor, I just the court counsel.

544
00:52:38,070 --> 00:52:42,690
Just the court counsel, adding court counsel to the register voters.

545
00:52:43,730 --> 00:52:46,250
Right, and then in no, no mayor.

546
00:52:46,370 --> 00:52:46,790
Correct.

547
00:52:48,090 --> 00:52:48,250
Sort of.

548
00:52:48,550 --> 00:52:49,410
On that amendment.

549
00:52:50,470 --> 00:52:51,450
On favor.

550
00:52:52,510 --> 00:52:53,690
To add amount.

551
00:52:55,710 --> 00:52:56,450
All opposed?

552
00:52:58,930 --> 00:52:59,290
No.

553
00:52:59,290 --> 00:52:59,290
I

554
00:53:01,940 --> 00:53:06,840
mean, Naze, I mean, eight Yays?

555
00:53:06,860 --> 00:53:07,080
Yeah.

556
00:53:07,700 --> 00:53:09,480
I mean, raise your hand please.

557
00:53:12,500 --> 00:53:13,800
Two, and Naze,

558
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:19,100
the Naze 7.

559
00:53:19,300 --> 00:53:20,520
I mean, the Naze 7.

560
00:53:21,700 --> 00:53:22,120
I'm sorry.

561
00:53:22,240 --> 00:53:23,040
What was that both?

562
00:53:23,740 --> 00:53:28,000
The vote was two Yas and six,

563
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:31,000
five, no.

564
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:33,520
So the Naze, the Naze 7.

565
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:33,800
The Naze 7.

566
00:53:34,620 --> 00:53:35,020
It fails.

567
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:35,700
Okay.

568
00:53:36,900 --> 00:53:37,180
Sorry.

569
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:38,100
That's okay.

570
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:42,820
So, moving on?

571
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:44,560
So, the motion as originally?

572
00:53:45,100 --> 00:53:46,360
The motion too.

573
00:53:46,740 --> 00:53:51,300
The feedback to the common concert rate with the neutral recommendation was the original.

574
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:59,540
Can I have was it really a motion to refer back to the common concert with the neutral recommendation?

575
00:54:03,980 --> 00:54:06,260
Was that the refer back to the memory?

576
00:54:06,260 --> 00:54:16,940
was that it was to refer the resolution as amended on June 10th, which that language now stands,

577
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:24,700
back to the full council for final action. I think it had a second as well.

578
00:54:24,700 --> 00:54:25,540
Yeah.

579
00:54:25,780 --> 00:54:27,980
All the women.

580
00:54:30,860 --> 00:54:33,460
So to refer back to the common council,

581
00:54:35,580 --> 00:54:37,140
has stated right,

582
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:39,860
although I'm in McNamara, on a favor.

583
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:40,940
Hi.

584
00:54:42,940 --> 00:54:43,180
No.

585
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:45,220
The eyes have.

586
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:48,060
Can you raise a hand for the eyes?

587
00:54:52,170 --> 00:54:53,350
Five, five, six, five.

588
00:54:54,610 --> 00:54:54,810
One, go.

589
00:54:58,840 --> 00:54:59,360
Three count.

590
00:54:59,360 --> 00:54:59,960
Yeah.

591
00:55:02,830 --> 00:55:07,130
And at this point, I believe that's all the action we have,

592
00:55:09,810 --> 00:55:09,810
right?

593
00:55:10,330 --> 00:55:18,450
The motion, sorry, the motion to refer back to the neutral recommendation goes through.

594
00:55:18,670 --> 00:55:19,430
You're motion to the general.

595
00:55:19,430 --> 00:55:20,370
You're motion to the general.

596
00:55:22,710 --> 00:55:24,270
You're motion to the general.

597
00:55:26,690 --> 00:55:27,230
All in favor?

598
00:55:29,370 --> 00:55:30,910
Motion to adjourn.

599
00:55:30,910 --> 00:55:32,510
And we're out of

600
00:55:35,170 --> 00:55:36,330
here.

601
00:55:36,330 --> 00:55:40,150
Time is 7.29.

602
00:55:41,470 --> 00:55:41,630
23.

603
00:55:42,710 --> 00:55:43,730
Yeah, I get it from my glass.

604
00:55:43,870 --> 00:55:44,810
That challenge is true.

605
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:50,200
All right, thank you.

606
00:55:50,860 --> 00:55:53,140
I'm going to meet the couple of people here for the arts.

607
00:55:54,380 --> 00:55:55,980
And I just want to thank you.

608
00:56:07,570 --> 00:56:10,070
Thank you very much.

609
00:56:10,130 --> 00:56:10,830
Thank you, Doc.

610
00:56:10,830 --> 00:56:12,470
I think

611
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:15,940
it's better.

612
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:17,240
It's better.

613
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:19,980
Oh, no, it's the best.

614
00:56:20,740 --> 00:56:21,820
Thank you so much.

615
00:56:21,820 --> 00:56:22,020
Thank you.

616
00:56:22,460 --> 00:56:24,460
It's much better for you.

617
00:56:24,780 --> 00:56:25,180
Thank you.

618
00:56:25,620 --> 00:56:26,240
I'm sorry.

619
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:26,700
I'm sorry.

620
00:56:28,180 --> 00:56:29,160
I'm sorry.