1 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:06,080 All right, we are recording to the 2 00:00:04,799 --> 00:00:08,880 cloud. 3 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:11,519 » Terrific. It is 12:04 4 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:13,519 and I'd like to call the meeting to 5 00:00:11,519 --> 00:00:15,679 order. Good afternoon and welcome 6 00:00:13,519 --> 00:00:17,840 everyone to the regular meeting of the 7 00:00:15,679 --> 00:00:22,960 new Kanan Conservation Commission this 8 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:24,400 Thursday, September 10th, 2026. 9 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:27,359 The first order of business will 10 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:29,199 actually be to amend the agenda. we had 11 00:00:27,359 --> 00:00:32,000 done something similar for the when we 12 00:00:29,199 --> 00:00:36,160 discussed the leaf um lower ordinance. 13 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:39,920 So what I would like to do is uh move 14 00:00:36,160 --> 00:00:43,120 public comment to proceed agenda item 15 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:47,600 number seven and then also we'll correct 16 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:50,800 the typo on the agenda which has two 17 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:55,760 uh number fives and we'll just make that 18 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:58,800 um top spot bench tuck that under item 19 00:00:55,760 --> 00:01:02,879 number four Bristo update 4A will be the 20 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:04,799 top spot bench. So, those uh are that is 21 00:01:02,879 --> 00:01:07,200 the amendment to the agenda that I 22 00:01:04,799 --> 00:01:08,320 proposed. Do I have a motion to make 23 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:09,520 that change? 24 00:01:08,320 --> 00:01:10,080 » I'll make a motion to make those 25 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:12,000 changes. 26 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:12,799 » Thank you, John. Do I have a second? 27 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:16,479 » I'll second. 28 00:01:12,799 --> 00:01:17,040 » Thank you, Ann. All those in favor? 29 00:01:16,479 --> 00:01:20,000 » Good. 30 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:22,560 » Terrific. Thank you. 31 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:24,640 » So, our next um agenda item will be the 32 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:28,320 approval of minutes for the July 9th, 33 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:28,960 2020 6th meeting. Do I have a motion to 34 00:01:28,320 --> 00:01:30,479 approve those? 35 00:01:28,960 --> 00:01:32,560 » Who has public comment? We're okay. 36 00:01:30,479 --> 00:01:34,960 We're going to move that to seven. 37 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:35,439 » Oh, I'll make a motion to approve the 38 00:01:34,960 --> 00:01:38,320 minutes. 39 00:01:35,439 --> 00:01:39,920 » Thank you, John. Do I have a second? 40 00:01:38,320 --> 00:01:43,320 » I can second that as well. 41 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:43,320 » Thank you, an 42 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:49,759 um 43 00:01:46,960 --> 00:01:51,280 Bristo update. Robin, are you on the 44 00:01:49,759 --> 00:01:54,560 line? 45 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:57,360 » Sorry. Yep, I'm here. Um, 46 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:59,920 » Thanks. So, um, just an update that, uh, 47 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:02,240 Land Trust went in. Uh we did some work 48 00:01:59,920 --> 00:02:04,320 throughout August um just weed whacking 49 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:08,080 some areas working on the Cam Hutchkins 50 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:10,239 garden. Um this past week we cleared the 51 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:12,959 the shunt dam tiger. I don't know if 52 00:02:10,239 --> 00:02:16,080 that's the right terminology. Um, and we 53 00:02:12,959 --> 00:02:19,120 did rake out that area um to allow the 54 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:19,920 water to get through um with the muck. 55 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:22,560 But 56 00:02:19,920 --> 00:02:25,280 » Is is that something that can be dredged 57 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:28,239 out or I don't know with wetlands what 58 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:31,120 on on getting the water to flow to the 59 00:02:28,239 --> 00:02:34,160 pond. 60 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:37,360 » So the uh Yeah. So we're working on a a 61 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:39,760 maintenance permit with inland wetlands. 62 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:43,440 So uh an annual maintenance dredging 63 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:45,680 permit. We have one for me and for Mill. 64 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:48,000 We just have to have one for the Bristo. 65 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:50,959 So, it wasn't included in the original 66 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:53,280 permit uh wetland permit that we went 67 00:02:50,959 --> 00:02:56,560 for for the actual restoration of 68 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:58,879 Bristo. So, we're working towards um 69 00:02:56,560 --> 00:03:00,879 that and we'll get that hopefully be a 70 00:02:58,879 --> 00:03:04,000 like I said an annual Thank you very 71 00:03:00,879 --> 00:03:06,480 much. Uh an annual uh maintenance 72 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:08,080 agreement that uh and that we just 73 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:09,280 notify Kathy that we're coming in to 74 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:11,440 take care of it. We come in and take 75 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:12,640 care of at least once a year. 76 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:14,159 » Okay. And then 77 00:03:12,640 --> 00:03:15,840 » Permit, we'll take care of it. 78 00:03:14,159 --> 00:03:17,680 » Is Is it okay that I'm going in there 79 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,800 and just raking it back a little bit to 80 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:20,080 allow water to go through? 81 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,840 » A little bit of maintenance is fine. 82 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:24,319 Yeah. Like that is fine. Yeah. For 83 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:26,239 actual dredging, you know, 84 00:03:24,319 --> 00:03:26,800 » Just a little channel. Okay. Just make 85 00:03:26,239 --> 00:03:28,239 sure 86 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:29,760 » Channel work. That's a That's a little 87 00:03:28,239 --> 00:03:32,799 bit much. But yeah. 88 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:34,560 » Okay. And then um the dead maple by the 89 00:03:32,799 --> 00:03:36,400 entrance. We received at land trust some 90 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:38,560 calls from people about that, but um 91 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:40,319 that's gone to bid to the selectman, the 92 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:42,319 board of selectmen for approval. 93 00:03:40,319 --> 00:03:44,720 » Yeah, it was on it. Yes, that's correct. 94 00:03:42,319 --> 00:03:47,519 That that that's going to the selectman 95 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:50,319 this Tuesday. So, it was on a bid. We 96 00:03:47,519 --> 00:03:51,840 received the bids uh and that that 97 00:03:50,319 --> 00:03:54,239 package will go to the selectman on 98 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:56,000 Tuesday for award and the contractor 99 00:03:54,239 --> 00:03:57,599 will start on it directly. 100 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:59,519 » Okay. And then uh just a couple more 101 00:03:57,599 --> 00:04:02,239 things is thank you for the signs by the 102 00:03:59,519 --> 00:04:05,439 way. the um close the gate. Hopefully 103 00:04:02,239 --> 00:04:07,439 people keep keep those. 104 00:04:05,439 --> 00:04:10,640 » When I went to go put it up, the the the 105 00:04:07,439 --> 00:04:14,319 the upper one off of the flexi pave was 106 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:15,920 wide open. The one down below was a jar. 107 00:04:14,319 --> 00:04:17,680 So the one off the baseball field was a 108 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:20,239 jar. So when I went to go put both signs 109 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:22,479 up, basically both gates were open. So 110 00:04:20,239 --> 00:04:23,440 but one was completely wide open, the 111 00:04:22,479 --> 00:04:25,199 other one just happened to be a little 112 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:27,040 bit of jar. So hopefully they'll pay 113 00:04:25,199 --> 00:04:28,800 attention. it. You know, if you grew up 114 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:30,160 on a farm, you know, you you leave the 115 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,759 gate the way you found it, right? Which 116 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:33,199 is it closed, right? It's closed, it's 117 00:04:31,759 --> 00:04:33,680 closed, it's open, it's open. But 118 00:04:33,199 --> 00:04:35,280 hopefully, 119 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:37,840 » I think people who are going in there 120 00:04:35,280 --> 00:04:40,240 with strollers and the like, it's 121 00:04:37,840 --> 00:04:42,160 awkward to push a store through and then 122 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:44,479 you come back and leave the stroller and 123 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:46,000 close the gate. And I think that that's 124 00:04:44,479 --> 00:04:48,560 a lot of it. 125 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:51,280 » I agree with you. 126 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:52,960 And uh so the only other things um there 127 00:04:51,280 --> 00:04:56,160 we we have received through land trust 128 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:58,639 some calls about um I guess residents at 129 00:04:56,160 --> 00:05:00,960 around 289 Park Street. There are some 130 00:04:58,639 --> 00:05:03,120 dead large trees in Bristo and they're 131 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:05,600 just wondering if the town will be 132 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:07,680 looking at them. Um if you're from Park 133 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:09,120 Street, you can see one. It's that you 134 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:11,199 know there's no leaves on the trees and 135 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:12,560 it's completely cleared out. They but 136 00:05:11,199 --> 00:05:13,840 they've been calling Landrust with 137 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:14,320 questions about that. 138 00:05:13,840 --> 00:05:15,759 » Um 139 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:17,600 » When they when they call the land trust, 140 00:05:15,759 --> 00:05:18,400 just forward them on to us. forward to 141 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:20,160 you. 142 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:22,160 » Yeah, please. And I'll I'll I'll get the 143 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:23,199 tree word now. That's off of 289 Park 144 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:25,440 Street. You know, 145 00:05:23,199 --> 00:05:27,759 » 289 Park Street. I'll I'll email you 146 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:29,280 with with uh the two people that have 147 00:05:27,759 --> 00:05:30,479 been reaching out. Um 148 00:05:29,280 --> 00:05:32,960 » That would be great. 149 00:05:30,479 --> 00:05:35,919 » And then I mean the only other things is 150 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:37,280 we've spotted uh a green heron in the 151 00:05:35,919 --> 00:05:38,400 pond if the conservation commission 152 00:05:37,280 --> 00:05:40,240 wants to know that's been eating the 153 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:42,639 goldfish. Uh we have video of it. So 154 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:46,400 that was pretty cool. Um the B of Bristo 155 00:05:42,639 --> 00:05:49,039 is coming up um in Bristo and Land Trust 156 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:50,639 is a sponsor and so we will most likely 157 00:05:49,039 --> 00:05:52,880 have some volunteers out there during 158 00:05:50,639 --> 00:05:54,960 the events. Um but otherwise we've been 159 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:56,720 walking the trails. Um we have uh 160 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:59,680 National Cherry League volunteers 161 00:05:56,720 --> 00:06:02,720 helping with uh the bird feeders, but 162 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:04,639 otherwise everything looks good. 163 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:06,400 » I think the only thing I have to add is 164 00:06:04,639 --> 00:06:09,039 that we have there is some trail repair 165 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:11,199 that we um have planned that was uh from 166 00:06:09,039 --> 00:06:13,360 storm damage. We went out to bid on 167 00:06:11,199 --> 00:06:15,039 that. That's just we had storm damage in 168 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:18,560 every trail. Uh not every trail but 169 00:06:15,039 --> 00:06:20,080 every park. So Wveny Kuanas and Bristo, 170 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:22,240 but that's going to the selectman on 171 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:25,280 Tuesday. So the contractor will start on 172 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:27,360 that shortly thereafter. So um he'll 173 00:06:25,280 --> 00:06:30,560 likely focus first on Waven because of 174 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:32,720 the cross country series uh you know the 175 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:34,960 high school cross country um season is 176 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:36,560 underway and then he'll roll to Bristo 177 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:39,120 and Kuanas after that. 178 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:41,600 » Right. Where in Bristo was the damage? 179 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:43,440 There was several areas that uh um I'll 180 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:46,080 send you the pictures. We and a little 181 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:49,039 bit of a little bit of bridge repair um 182 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:50,240 on the main bridge going over the um by 183 00:06:49,039 --> 00:06:51,759 the four-way junction. 184 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:53,600 » So, was it flooding? 185 00:06:51,759 --> 00:06:55,360 » It was Yeah, just too much volume. Too 186 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:57,039 much volume of water. Basically, it was 187 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:59,520 during that major where you got four 188 00:06:57,039 --> 00:07:01,039 inches in an hour, you know, uh during 189 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:03,199 that storm. Just the trails couldn't 190 00:07:01,039 --> 00:07:05,599 take got a little washed out. So, 191 00:07:03,199 --> 00:07:07,360 » Not that bad in Bristo much much much 192 00:07:05,599 --> 00:07:09,759 heavier in Waven, 193 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:11,919 » Right? Um but we we packaged it all 194 00:07:09,759 --> 00:07:13,360 together Bristo Kuanas and and Wavey all 195 00:07:11,919 --> 00:07:17,599 together in one package and went out to 196 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:21,120 bid instead of going out separately. So 197 00:07:17,599 --> 00:07:24,319 » Okay. All right. Thank you. Uh 198 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:26,720 » Robin to continue. We um I believe uh 199 00:07:24,319 --> 00:07:29,520 you requested a vote on the top spot 200 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:31,840 bench. Is there any information want to 201 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:33,919 share with us before we 202 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:36,319 » No, I don't know if Barbara Scabiki is 203 00:07:33,919 --> 00:07:38,240 there, but um she did. 204 00:07:36,319 --> 00:07:41,039 » Okay. She did reach out to Land Trust 205 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:44,319 and Friends of Bristo and uh absolutely 206 00:07:41,039 --> 00:07:46,240 in support. Um and we would love love to 207 00:07:44,319 --> 00:07:49,720 have a bench there by I think it's is it 208 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:49,720 going by the pond? 209 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:56,400 » Do you want to 210 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:58,080 you want 211 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:59,440 » I think we may need you to come forward 212 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:03,000 and speak 213 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:03,000 » In one of the 214 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:10,160 Christian ideas because he used to I I I 215 00:08:06,639 --> 00:08:11,759 live right next door to the very sanct 216 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:13,759 for 37 years 217 00:08:11,759 --> 00:08:14,800 » Until last week. Hello. 218 00:08:13,759 --> 00:08:15,199 » Hi. 219 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:16,479 » Um 220 00:08:15,199 --> 00:08:18,879 » Could you introduce yourself for 221 00:08:16,479 --> 00:08:19,280 » Oh, I'm Barbara Skitzky. 222 00:08:18,879 --> 00:08:21,440 » Hello Barbara. 223 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:23,199 » I live 87 on Stanford Road. 224 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:25,280 » And uh I was actually put my hand up 225 00:08:23,199 --> 00:08:27,280 when you mentioned about um the parents 226 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:30,479 coming through and it was difficult. Um 227 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:32,479 I'm going to disagree with you. Um as as 228 00:08:30,479 --> 00:08:34,399 working with parents for 37 years, they 229 00:08:32,479 --> 00:08:35,760 are capable of bringing in and then 230 00:08:34,399 --> 00:08:38,000 closing the gate. I know they're 231 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:40,880 capable. I'm just thinking it's it's one 232 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:42,560 of those annoyances that they and to I'm 233 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:43,440 going to be leaving so I'll just leave 234 00:08:42,560 --> 00:08:45,120 the gate open. 235 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,880 » I know. I let them know all the time. 236 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:49,120 Could you just close it? I'm like I'm 237 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:50,320 I'm renowned to be backwards and 238 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:52,240 forwards there. 239 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:54,160 » And I'm so grateful the signs, you know, 240 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:55,760 to close the gate. So, no problem. 241 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:57,760 » The weird thing is in the front when the 242 00:08:55,760 --> 00:09:00,640 gates when the signs went up there, 243 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:02,160 almost 100% of the people closed it. The 244 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:03,680 same people going out the other way, the 245 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:06,000 signs weren't there. They didn't close 246 00:09:03,680 --> 00:09:06,399 it. So, there's still something, but 247 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,640 still. 248 00:09:06,399 --> 00:09:10,480 » So, did you have a particular spot in 249 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:10,880 mind for the 250 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:11,920 » Bench? 251 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:13,440 » For the bench. 252 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:17,600 » If not, he can 253 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:19,360 » Uh I do. Um 254 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:22,480 maybe Robin can help me. I don't know. 255 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:24,320 Um where my yellow house is. And if you 256 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:26,000 look straight into the bird sanctuary, 257 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:28,320 if it could be somewhere looking at on 258 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:31,120 would be perfect because all the parents 259 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:32,640 would love to have that. Um and and and 260 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:34,240 it's got a nice little saying about the 261 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:36,480 top spot and stuff. It would be 262 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:38,080 fantastic for all the children if that's 263 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:39,279 possible. If not, they may be at the 264 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:42,600 pond because they'll always be walking 265 00:09:39,279 --> 00:09:42,600 around the pond. 266 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:46,160 » Terrific. 267 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:49,440 » I like to talk. I have to just say 268 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:51,760 though because of the top spot there. So 269 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:53,200 many children and I send Chris photos to 270 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:55,279 Chris Ship. I said you can use them if 271 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:57,760 you want as an advertisement with the 272 00:09:55,279 --> 00:09:59,600 backs of the children dancing through 273 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:01,120 the bird sanctuary. It's really a 274 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,640 fantastic thing. Fair enough. We could 275 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:03,440 get your contact information and get 276 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:04,399 those correctly. 277 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:06,240 » Yes. 278 00:10:04,399 --> 00:10:09,519 » Great. Well, thank you. Uh do I have a 279 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:11,680 motion then to approve uh locating and 280 00:10:09,519 --> 00:10:14,160 dedicating the top spot bench in 281 00:10:11,680 --> 00:10:14,560 Bristol? 282 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:16,079 » Have a motion. 283 00:10:14,560 --> 00:10:17,360 » I'll make a motion. I'll make a motion 284 00:10:16,079 --> 00:10:19,839 to do that. Yeah. 285 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:21,680 » Do I have a second? 286 00:10:19,839 --> 00:10:24,079 » I'll second this one as well. 287 00:10:21,680 --> 00:10:25,680 » Thank you, Ann. Uh commissioners, all 288 00:10:24,079 --> 00:10:27,680 those in favor, just raise your hand, 289 00:10:25,680 --> 00:10:28,560 vote I or say I. 290 00:10:27,680 --> 00:10:30,880 » I. Great. 291 00:10:28,560 --> 00:10:31,519 » Unanimous. unanimous. Thank you. It's 292 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:35,040 approved. 293 00:10:31,519 --> 00:10:36,480 » Thank you very much. 294 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:39,120 » All right, moving on to the next agenda 295 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:40,880 item. That would be the South Avenue 296 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:41,760 tree update. Tiger, could you help us 297 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:45,600 with that? 298 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:48,399 » Sure. So, uh we um we replaced all but 299 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:50,160 one of the trees that were uh we had 300 00:10:48,399 --> 00:10:52,399 nine trees that needed to be replaced on 301 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:54,480 South Avenue. Uh we replaced all but 302 00:10:52,399 --> 00:10:56,160 one. The one that we didn't replace, 303 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:57,760 Burns, was still working in the area. 304 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:59,760 So, we've got to come back out now and 305 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:01,839 replace that one. But they were they 306 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:03,360 were finalizing their work. Thankfully, 307 00:11:01,839 --> 00:11:06,480 now 308 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:09,519 all the pipe work is done. Um, and 309 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:11,920 they're on to uh restoration. So, well, 310 00:11:09,519 --> 00:11:14,560 repaving and then restoration. So, the 311 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:16,240 repaving will happen. A little plug. Got 312 00:11:14,560 --> 00:11:18,000 nothing to do with you guys, but a 313 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:20,240 little plug for the next five Saturdays. 314 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:22,399 They'll be working on South Avenue from 315 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:24,480 Harrison to to Farm Road. So, if you 316 00:11:22,399 --> 00:11:25,760 want to avoid it, avoid it. And then 317 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:28,320 after that, they'll come in and start 318 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:30,399 doing driveway restoration, curb repair, 319 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:32,560 and repairing that entire kind of the 320 00:11:30,399 --> 00:11:34,240 verge where all the trees are um 321 00:11:32,560 --> 00:11:35,760 subsequent to the repaving. Once we get 322 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:37,360 the once we get the grades right on the 323 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:38,720 on the road, then they can come back in 324 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:39,839 and fix the driveways and the curving 325 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:41,440 and all the rest of it. 326 00:11:39,839 --> 00:11:43,440 » So, we just have one tree left to go. 327 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:45,519 But other than that, the trees look they 328 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:47,680 each one is taken. Looks they look nice. 329 00:11:45,519 --> 00:11:50,480 You know, they they seem to be healthy. 330 00:11:47,680 --> 00:11:52,320 Bob's happy. Uh Beautification League is 331 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:53,680 happy. Keith Simpson Associates happy. 332 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:53,920 So I think it's I think it's a good 333 00:11:53,680 --> 00:11:55,040 thing 334 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:56,800 » And residents 335 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:58,560 » And residents. Yeah. Yeah. No 336 00:11:56,800 --> 00:12:01,040 complaints. Let's put it that way. That 337 00:11:58,560 --> 00:12:02,560 we had we we had fielded early, you 338 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:05,440 know, and the beautifification league 339 00:12:02,560 --> 00:12:07,920 did a very nice job of working with each 340 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:09,360 resident as to location and type. And 341 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:11,040 then we fielded a couple of complaints 342 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:14,079 at the at the time of initial 343 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:15,760 installation. Appeased whatever you know 344 00:12:14,079 --> 00:12:17,680 needed to happen, switching a tree, what 345 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:19,120 have you. Um switching a location, 346 00:12:17,680 --> 00:12:22,240 things like that. And uh we haven't had 347 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:23,120 any complaints uh you know since. So 348 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:25,040 yeah, 349 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:26,560 » Trees on farm road look great too. And 350 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:28,320 Bob, thank you. Yeah, 351 00:12:26,560 --> 00:12:30,880 » Done a nice job of a tree replacement 352 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:33,200 for one he took down onel as well. 353 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:35,839 » Yeah, we we uh we had about 40 plus 354 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:38,000 trees that that uh we did throughout 355 00:12:35,839 --> 00:12:40,079 town, but that stretch on Farm Road is 356 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:41,839 most visible visible, right? Because it 357 00:12:40,079 --> 00:12:43,760 was probably, you know, several it was a 358 00:12:41,839 --> 00:12:45,600 bunch of trees in that one row there 359 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:47,040 kind of coming up the hill from Main 360 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:48,079 Street or, you know, White Oak Shave. So 361 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:51,120 it looked really That looked really 362 00:12:48,079 --> 00:12:54,560 nice. That looked good. Yeah. Um he so 363 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:57,200 he's he's trying to in areas that where 364 00:12:54,560 --> 00:12:58,959 we have a large impact he makes you know 365 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:01,120 he's trying to plant something back in 366 00:12:58,959 --> 00:13:03,040 his place we're so well canopied in 367 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:04,639 other areas he can take a tree down it's 368 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:06,800 dead or diseased and people not 369 00:13:04,639 --> 00:13:08,240 necessarily notice it you know but if 370 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:09,839 it's in an area like that along farm 371 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:11,040 road it's very noticeable so at that 372 00:13:09,839 --> 00:13:11,600 point in time he goes back and replaces 373 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:13,360 it. So 374 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:15,440 » These are all pretty small trees though 375 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:18,240 that you planted. I mean varieties I 376 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:19,680 mean not what you planted but the the 377 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:22,000 variety of tree that you planted. 378 00:13:19,680 --> 00:13:23,760 » It's about Yeah. 3 to 4 inch caliber you 379 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:27,040 know is about what we're 380 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:28,959 » But their cover is more like a smaller 381 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:30,880 tree not a oak tree. 382 00:13:28,959 --> 00:13:32,880 » Right. Yeah. The majority of them. Yeah. 383 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:34,399 Well right tree right tree right place. 384 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:36,720 Right. So we got to be we got to be 385 00:13:34,399 --> 00:13:38,399 aware of that. especially like on Farm 386 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:40,480 Road, we've got the sidewalk directly 387 00:13:38,399 --> 00:13:43,200 adjacent and then the roadside and then 388 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:44,880 in certain areas, we've got utility um 389 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:47,120 lines above it. So, in those those 390 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:48,560 cases, we were planting like a a shrub 391 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:50,160 or a bush, something that was going to 392 00:13:48,560 --> 00:13:52,000 be low growing. So, we wouldn't have a 393 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:55,040 problem with with the wires, you know, 394 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:57,279 going forward. 395 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:59,920 » Great. 396 00:13:57,279 --> 00:14:01,680 If that's it, Tiger, can I ask you to um 397 00:13:59,920 --> 00:14:03,440 move on to the next agenda item, and 398 00:14:01,680 --> 00:14:07,040 that's the transfer station update. 399 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:09,920 Sure. So, the uh I I just got handed a 400 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:11,440 whole bunch of data for the uh for the 401 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:13,199 transfer station itself. I I got to go 402 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:15,120 through it a little bit before I 403 00:14:13,199 --> 00:14:17,440 quantify it for you guys and put it into 404 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:19,279 the that spreadsheet for you, but we'll 405 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:22,320 um we'll we'll have that done for you 406 00:14:19,279 --> 00:14:24,000 shortly. Um and then as far as uh as far 407 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:27,360 as it goes, we have two events coming up 408 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:29,839 at the transfer station. Uh well, um in 409 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:31,680 in the in the entire area, I should say 410 00:14:29,839 --> 00:14:34,639 in our compound. So we have household 411 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:38,240 hazardous waste day this uh Saturday 412 00:14:34,639 --> 00:14:39,519 from 8 to 2. Um so on the website is the 413 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:40,079 uh what you can bring, what you 414 00:14:39,519 --> 00:14:40,480 shouldn't bring, 415 00:14:40,079 --> 00:14:44,079 » Right? 416 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:46,639 » Um for us, but uh but I I I suggest this 417 00:14:44,079 --> 00:14:49,519 is the last um of the household 418 00:14:46,639 --> 00:14:51,680 hazardous waste day um events for this 419 00:14:49,519 --> 00:14:52,720 year. So we're in a consortium with five 420 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:54,639 other towns, right? 421 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:57,040 » We're always last. So this is the last 422 00:14:54,639 --> 00:14:59,120 one. So, um, if you if you want to clean 423 00:14:57,040 --> 00:15:01,839 out your uh clean out your garage or 424 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:04,480 your shed, come this weekend. Um, and 425 00:15:01,839 --> 00:15:07,680 then next week on the 19th, we have a 426 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:09,519 shred day from 8 to 1. So, and all we 427 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:12,399 ask is no staples, no three- ring 428 00:15:09,519 --> 00:15:14,959 binders, no no paper clips. Um, and 429 00:15:12,399 --> 00:15:16,560 they'll shred the the um the items right 430 00:15:14,959 --> 00:15:18,240 there in front of you, so you don't have 431 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:21,120 to worry about uh any security or 432 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:23,519 safety. Um, and that usually is a very 433 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:26,160 well attended event as well. So, I'd say 434 00:15:23,519 --> 00:15:27,199 get there early and then, you know, be 435 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:29,120 patient. 436 00:15:27,199 --> 00:15:30,160 » Do you have the town publicizing that on 437 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:31,920 their social media accounts? 438 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:35,440 » Yeah. So, it went out. Yeah. So, it's 439 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:36,720 been I send out a DPW update weekly. I 440 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:38,240 don't know if you register for it, but 441 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:40,480 it goes out every Sunday at noon time 442 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:41,760 and then Monday, depending on if there's 443 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:43,680 happening something on the roads, it's 444 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:46,000 every day. Uh, if you go on the town 445 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:48,480 website in the upper leftand corner, it 446 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:50,639 says uh uh town alerts, so you can 447 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:53,839 register for my updates and then anyone 448 00:15:50,639 --> 00:15:56,240 else. the um first selections newsletter 449 00:15:53,839 --> 00:15:58,160 and then others. So uh yeah and then we 450 00:15:56,240 --> 00:16:00,320 have that on just on our website as 451 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:02,480 well. So it's on social media website 452 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:03,120 and my updates for the past two three 453 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:03,440 weeks 454 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:06,160 » Right 455 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:07,839 » On that. Then uh we usually typically 456 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:10,480 put out a variable message board a 457 00:16:07,839 --> 00:16:12,560 couple days beforehand to uh just off 458 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:14,240 the 394 Main Street entrance so that 459 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:15,839 people know exactly where to go because 460 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:18,399 you don't come in through the uh access 461 00:16:15,839 --> 00:16:20,000 road off of uh Lake View that goes into 462 00:16:18,399 --> 00:16:22,560 the transfer station. you come into the 463 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:27,320 lower portion of the compound uh um off 464 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:27,320 Main Street and queue up there. 465 00:16:27,759 --> 00:16:29,360 » All right. 466 00:16:28,639 --> 00:16:32,639 » Okay. 467 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:34,079 » And any other questions for Tiger? 468 00:16:32,639 --> 00:16:35,279 » Okay. Thank you, Tiger. We'll let you 469 00:16:34,079 --> 00:16:36,560 go. We're going to move on to 470 00:16:35,279 --> 00:16:37,920 » All right. 471 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:40,920 » Thank you. 472 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:40,920 » Discussion. 473 00:16:43,199 --> 00:16:47,680 » Great. Thank you. 474 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:51,120 Per the amendment to the agenda. Our 475 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:52,800 next uh agenda item will be public 476 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:54,240 comment and I do believe we have some 477 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:55,920 people in the room. If you can help me 478 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:57,519 John sort of 479 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:59,519 » Direct that public comment and if you 480 00:16:57,519 --> 00:16:59,920 see anything online as well that'll be 481 00:16:59,519 --> 00:17:01,120 helpful. 482 00:16:59,920 --> 00:17:02,720 » All right let's start with the room. I 483 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:05,039 suggest if anyone wants to come up to 484 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:05,520 the podium and make a comment with 485 00:17:05,039 --> 00:17:07,199 regard to 486 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:09,360 » I would ask you just to uh introduce 487 00:17:07,199 --> 00:17:12,000 yourself name and then the um the street 488 00:17:09,360 --> 00:17:14,319 that you live on. 489 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:18,000 It'd be great if we could get a camera 490 00:17:14,319 --> 00:17:21,439 coverage of our public commenters. 491 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:26,600 I don't know if that's possible. 492 00:17:21,439 --> 00:17:26,600 » Neilie Sticknoff 137 Elm Place. 493 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:31,640 » Oh yeah, sure. 494 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:35,200 » Simple solutions. 495 00:17:33,919 --> 00:17:36,080 » No. Um 496 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:37,520 » I don't know if I like 497 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:40,080 » We're doing We're doing pretty well on 498 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:43,440 time for the meeting. Uh, and I 499 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:45,039 certainly do not want to um 500 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:46,880 » Have any kind of public comment, but I 501 00:17:45,039 --> 00:17:49,120 will ask everybody to try to keep it to 502 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:51,440 about uh two minutes. But again, I don't 503 00:17:49,120 --> 00:17:53,919 want to restrict any public comment, so 504 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:57,480 we'll do our best to to hear everything. 505 00:17:53,919 --> 00:17:57,480 I'll take this one. 506 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:05,520 » Um, I was commenting on the uh uh 507 00:18:02,559 --> 00:18:07,039 » Who are you? I didn't hear you. Neie 508 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:09,840 Stiknoth 509 00:18:07,039 --> 00:18:13,039 137 Elm Place. 510 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:15,919 Um I was commenting I saw the on the 511 00:18:13,039 --> 00:18:17,600 discussion on the uh wave. 512 00:18:15,919 --> 00:18:20,240 » Yes. Oh, last night, 513 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:24,000 » Right? And I I was present at the at 514 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:25,679 that discussion last night. Um I 515 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:27,440 presented a couple of things because 516 00:18:25,679 --> 00:18:29,120 there seemed to be this this question 517 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:32,400 about 518 00:18:29,120 --> 00:18:33,919 the e parcel and what that all means. 519 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:36,960 Um, 520 00:18:33,919 --> 00:18:39,280 I had received this pamphlet which I 521 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:42,080 have uh given copies of 522 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:45,840 » From uh Steve Banko years ago and this 523 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:49,679 is a brochure that they used in 1967 to 524 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:52,240 uh uh to get residents to to buy into 525 00:18:49,679 --> 00:18:53,840 the idea of open space and it's really 526 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:56,080 great because it you know they went 527 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:58,160 through the kinds of things that you 528 00:18:56,080 --> 00:19:01,760 know they were anticipating to happen in 529 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:07,039 Waven and it's exactly what has 530 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:09,280 Um both parcels the the next uh image 531 00:19:07,039 --> 00:19:14,880 that you have on that sheet shows the 532 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:17,679 parcels after the tour. Um the par the E 533 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:19,679 and D were were both purchased in ' 67. 534 00:19:17,679 --> 00:19:22,080 As you all know the discussion is about 535 00:19:19,679 --> 00:19:25,520 E. But any conversation that we have 536 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:30,880 about the deed for E is the same deed 537 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:32,400 for D. So ste includes the house and 538 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:35,840 some of the surrounding areas uh 539 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:38,240 carriage barn powerhouse theater but D 540 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:42,000 is our open space there. So if we're 541 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:44,720 saying that D it's okay to do to say E 542 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:46,880 is oh it's the mulch pile no big deal. 543 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:49,440 We're kind of saying opening up D as 544 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:52,000 well. And I think that's significant 545 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:54,720 because uh you know this is something 546 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:57,520 that we have as as a uh 547 00:19:54,720 --> 00:20:00,559 multigenerational space. People of all 548 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:02,960 ages go they enjoy our our park. It's 549 00:20:00,559 --> 00:20:04,400 one of the benefits of New Kanan. And if 550 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:07,840 we're saying that the problem with 551 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:10,400 McCainan is that um we want young people 552 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:12,880 to move here, well, they're moving here 553 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:15,679 for for open space. That's it's it's 554 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:18,640 it's such a unique thing that New Kanan 555 00:20:15,679 --> 00:20:21,760 has. So the idea that we're going to to 556 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:24,720 now start to to limit that in any way 557 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:27,520 that that particular parcel or anything 558 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:29,919 related to Wave uh doesn't make any 559 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:33,360 sense to me um for what for the for the 560 00:20:29,919 --> 00:20:37,840 use that they're talking about. Um the 561 00:20:33,360 --> 00:20:40,640 the final uh image is at of the map is 562 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:44,480 of the the resource map that was done 563 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:47,520 for the national register listing which 564 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:50,159 was done in 2019. You can see where 565 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:52,720 parcel E is and how large it is. It's 566 00:20:50,159 --> 00:20:56,640 actually the largest contiguous part of 567 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:59,840 waving and that's the part that we're 568 00:20:56,640 --> 00:21:02,480 that seems to be presented as the 569 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:04,960 stepchild, you know, like that's just an 570 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:10,159 add-on. But in actuality that was the 571 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:14,080 part that was very compelling to um the 572 00:21:10,159 --> 00:21:17,760 Shipo and the National Register because 573 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:21,440 we are one of the only uh sites that has 574 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:23,360 you know 282 acres that is contiguous 575 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:26,240 that still looks when you come out of 576 00:21:23,360 --> 00:21:28,880 the the back of Waven it still looks the 577 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:31,039 way it did then what it's not it's grass 578 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:32,880 now instead of farmland but it's you 579 00:21:31,039 --> 00:21:35,440 still see the slope you see you still 580 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:38,640 the geography and that's that's really 581 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:40,880 important. So, um and that was what was 582 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:43,039 so unique is that that we still have 583 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:45,600 that and and we're in Fairfield County. 584 00:21:43,039 --> 00:21:47,440 You know, the idea that that that we as 585 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:48,559 New Canaanites have been able to 586 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:50,159 maintain that. 587 00:21:48,559 --> 00:21:52,159 » So, I just would like to say that we 588 00:21:50,159 --> 00:21:56,000 would I personally think that that 589 00:21:52,159 --> 00:21:58,960 should continue uh as wave as it as it 590 00:21:56,000 --> 00:22:01,280 stands now. And uh 591 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:02,799 » Great. Thank you. 592 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:05,120 » Thank you very much. 593 00:22:02,799 --> 00:22:07,280 I have a quick question. 594 00:22:05,120 --> 00:22:10,400 » That parcel E, does that actually 595 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:13,120 include the parking lot at Talmage Hill? 596 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:16,080 » No, that's parcel A. 597 00:22:13,120 --> 00:22:18,640 » Oh. 598 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:19,520 Oh, I see. Okay. So, it's really not 599 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:20,000 part of this. 600 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,720 » No. 601 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:23,360 » Property D. This is the woodland then. 602 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,280 » Exactly. 603 00:22:23,360 --> 00:22:25,919 » This is where they play that thing in 604 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:26,960 the woods. 605 00:22:25,919 --> 00:22:29,200 » This golf. 606 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:30,159 » Sorry. 607 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:33,120 » We took a tour. 608 00:22:30,159 --> 00:22:34,960 » Yeah. Um but yes that that area 609 00:22:33,120 --> 00:22:35,280 » There's a lot of topography in there as 610 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:35,919 well. 611 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,760 » Oh it's so 612 00:22:35,919 --> 00:22:39,440 » This is not a building site. 613 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:41,200 » No and as a matter of fact there's also 614 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:43,440 a lot of wetlands because that's the 615 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:45,120 Nurotin River goes right down around 616 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:46,640 there. And as a matter of fact, when 617 00:22:45,120 --> 00:22:49,120 they were doing the national listing, 618 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:52,480 they they mentioned that of any place 619 00:22:49,120 --> 00:22:54,559 that there might be artifacts from uh 620 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:57,120 you know, Indian civilizations, their 621 00:22:54,559 --> 00:22:59,039 settlements, that it would all be a near 622 00:22:57,120 --> 00:23:02,000 parcel E because that was the one that's 623 00:22:59,039 --> 00:23:02,880 the closest to any kind of water. 624 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:05,360 » Interesting. 625 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:07,760 » Thank you very much for that. 626 00:23:05,360 --> 00:23:11,679 » Yeah, appreciate that. 627 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:13,840 » All right, continue. Go ahead, John. 628 00:23:11,679 --> 00:23:17,520 » Yep, we have 629 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:21,000 Next public commenter. 630 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:21,000 » Oh, Jimmy. 631 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:28,080 » Your your name and street address. 632 00:23:25,679 --> 00:23:29,840 » That's fun to hand out. I made five 633 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:31,919 copies, but obviously there's only three 634 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,559 of you. I take that you'll send this 635 00:23:31,919 --> 00:23:34,159 along 636 00:23:32,559 --> 00:23:35,280 » To Tom. Yes. And 637 00:23:34,159 --> 00:23:36,559 » It'll become part of the record 638 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:38,320 » To both Toms. Yes. 639 00:23:36,559 --> 00:23:41,280 » Perfect. Thank you. 640 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:44,240 » Um I want to echo my name is Jennifer 641 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:47,520 Holm. I live at Smith 1328 Smith Ridge 642 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:48,240 Road and I've lived here in town over 26 643 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:49,840 years. 644 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,480 » It's Jessica Holmes. 645 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:53,480 » Jennifer 646 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,480 » Jenn 647 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:59,600 um I echo Neil's sentiments, but I'm 648 00:23:58,159 --> 00:24:02,159 also here to talk to you about something 649 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:05,280 that's very critical and important that 650 00:24:02,159 --> 00:24:08,000 basically is state law. Um, in the state 651 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:10,320 of Connecticut, we are blessed with a 652 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:12,320 law and the statute was recently updated 653 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:14,880 in 2025 654 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:17,919 to do parkland for parkland as I call 655 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:20,720 it. It basically outlines that if 656 00:24:17,919 --> 00:24:23,600 anyipicality changes a use and I've 657 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:26,000 highlighted it for you or for other 658 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:29,760 purposes which the part the which land 659 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:32,880 was purchased for or other recreational 660 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:35,760 or open space purposes for which bonds 661 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:38,720 were issued for such purposes or which 662 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:41,760 has been dedicated for such purposes 663 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:43,919 then the town has to provide equal value 664 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:46,000 and equal size 665 00:24:43,919 --> 00:24:48,320 and this has been really critical as you 666 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:50,880 know because open space is continuing to 667 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:54,000 disappear. And the reason why this law 668 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:56,159 came about in the 1970s was because they 669 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:59,840 found many times municipalities were 670 00:24:56,159 --> 00:25:01,760 taking land for because it was free to 671 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:05,200 build highways and other things like 672 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:09,200 parking lots. And so what the state 673 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:11,679 legislature did is in their wisdom is 674 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:15,360 say that you must replace it. And 675 00:25:11,679 --> 00:25:17,919 recently in 2025, they also wrote into 676 00:25:15,360 --> 00:25:21,120 the law and it was passed that it was 677 00:25:17,919 --> 00:25:24,240 basically when you do a change of use of 678 00:25:21,120 --> 00:25:26,720 parkland or open space, this is 679 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:29,279 triggered, but it isn't triggered after 680 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:31,840 the fact. It's if you go on to the next 681 00:25:29,279 --> 00:25:34,880 sentence, you're required to have a 682 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:38,320 public hearing. And that public hearing 683 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:41,440 is a state requirement. and they outline 684 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:43,919 how often you must notify which uh and 685 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:45,440 what the language must be in the notice. 686 00:25:43,919 --> 00:25:48,080 But I want to point out to this 687 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:49,919 commission that essentially the 688 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:53,120 municipality 689 00:25:49,919 --> 00:25:56,400 use of such land and any reason for the 690 00:25:53,120 --> 00:26:00,000 proposed taking. This is not after the 691 00:25:56,400 --> 00:26:02,240 fact or concurrently. This is proposed. 692 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:05,520 So here we have a proposal on the table 693 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:08,240 to take this parkland and this hearing 694 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:11,200 must then basically speak to the public 695 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:14,159 and allow the public to speak on the 696 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:16,880 taking of this land, the use of it and 697 00:26:14,159 --> 00:26:19,360 then it also must talk about what 698 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:22,400 replacement is going to be provided and 699 00:26:19,360 --> 00:26:26,080 what other land was considered. This is 700 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:28,000 all of the required public notice. So I 701 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:30,640 strongly urge this commission because 702 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:32,960 you are in charge and are basically our 703 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:36,000 stewards, one of our stewards of open 704 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:39,279 space to work with potentially park and 705 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:42,880 wreck or independently to do this study 706 00:26:39,279 --> 00:26:45,760 prior to thisou being signed. This is 707 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:48,240 really critical because what we have now 708 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:50,559 seen and there was a recent court case 709 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:54,080 called Kensington playground in New 710 00:26:50,559 --> 00:26:57,600 Haven was that essentially this allows 711 00:26:54,080 --> 00:27:01,440 then the public to weigh in on open 712 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:04,720 space and parkland and wave as wave as 713 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:08,000 as Neil talked about was basically those 714 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:10,799 deeds deed this as open space parkland 715 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:12,640 and they're actually zoned that way in 716 00:27:10,799 --> 00:27:14,880 our zoning regulations. 717 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:17,200 So I strongly ask that this commission 718 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:19,120 take this under consideration and either 719 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:22,159 do their own independent study or work 720 00:27:19,120 --> 00:27:24,320 with park and wreck to do that. 721 00:27:22,159 --> 00:27:27,520 » So thank you John. 722 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:29,840 » In the taking of a replacement parcel, 723 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:33,120 you're not necessarily 724 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:36,480 required to do the replacement parcel 725 00:27:33,120 --> 00:27:39,919 with the same zoning as the taking 726 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:41,919 parcel. Well, um I would say that if you 727 00:27:39,919 --> 00:27:44,640 take parkland, what the statute says is 728 00:27:41,919 --> 00:27:46,720 you must replace parkland. Uh you don't 729 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:50,080 replace it with something else, you 730 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:53,600 replace it with parkland. So I call it 731 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:56,240 parkland for parkland and it's when not 732 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:58,080 and you know hear this a lot. Uh people 733 00:27:56,240 --> 00:28:00,720 have been talking about this deed and 734 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:03,919 that we paid for those two parcels. That 735 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:06,159 is irrelevant. this was, you know, I can 736 00:28:03,919 --> 00:28:07,840 buy a house and in the deed it says I 737 00:28:06,159 --> 00:28:09,360 can't knock the damn thing down. Well, 738 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:11,440 guess what? I can't do that even if I 739 00:28:09,360 --> 00:28:13,760 paid for the house, which I should have. 740 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:17,039 In this case, I would note that when 741 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:19,279 Mrs. Lapam Lloyd looked at that and made 742 00:28:17,039 --> 00:28:22,320 those parcels and made those covenants 743 00:28:19,279 --> 00:28:25,919 in those deeds, she was very cognizant 744 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:28,880 of parcel C and she was very cognizant 745 00:28:25,919 --> 00:28:31,679 to separate that out for educational and 746 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:34,399 hospital purposes. And if the same logic 747 00:28:31,679 --> 00:28:36,720 would apply to allow this to be built at 748 00:28:34,399 --> 00:28:38,880 the mulch pile, then she should have had 749 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:42,240 that language also on that part of the 750 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:45,200 deed. I would also say to the following, 751 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:48,240 we paid as a community with a bond for 752 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:50,240 that parcel below market rate. So at the 753 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:52,559 time when we bought that, if we didn't 754 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:54,320 feel that we wanted to be unencumbered, 755 00:28:52,559 --> 00:28:57,440 we should have asked her to remove that 756 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:59,520 easement. We didn't. We actually, as 757 00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,960 this points out in this brochure, 758 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:03,600 actually wanted that. 759 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:07,919 » We wanted to ensure that longevity and 760 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:10,080 that per perpetuity. So I believe quite 761 00:29:07,919 --> 00:29:11,760 honestly that she was very cognizant of 762 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:14,559 what she was doing when she made those 763 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:16,480 deeds. She actually outlines in parcel C 764 00:29:14,559 --> 00:29:19,440 that you can have a corporation, a 765 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:21,520 for-profit, a non-forprofit. I strongly 766 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:24,080 urge you to read those deeds. They're 767 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:26,559 very important. And it isn't about what 768 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:28,399 the town's wishes are. It's really about 769 00:29:26,559 --> 00:29:30,960 what her wishes are. 770 00:29:28,399 --> 00:29:32,880 » Those are that's her legacy to us and 771 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,960 that's a legacy I still feel strongly 772 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:36,320 that should be maintained. And if you 773 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,880 want to argue, you want to take 774 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:41,600 Parkland, then you also must follow the 775 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:44,880 state statute. It's not a may, it's not 776 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:47,600 a should, it's a shall if you read this 777 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:49,840 this the statute. And it's been a very 778 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:52,880 active statute. So, the fact that the 779 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:56,320 legislature has had this since 1970 and 780 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:57,760 revised it in 2025 means it's very 781 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,120 important to them. And we all know how 782 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:02,080 long it takes the legislature to get 783 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:03,679 anything done, believe me. But it's 784 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,440 actually extremely important and 785 00:30:03,679 --> 00:30:08,559 extremely important for all of us who 786 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:10,240 aren't here for generations to come. 787 00:30:08,559 --> 00:30:14,360 » Did I answer your question? 788 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:14,360 » Yes. It was surpris 789 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:20,640 all all of this. Well, I think you know 790 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:22,640 what I think I give people the benefit 791 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:25,440 of the doubt. They may not know. I don't 792 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:28,320 know if you knew about this statute. Um, 793 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:29,360 and its importance. Um, so let's have 794 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,880 everyone get educated. 795 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:32,320 » I'm not actually speaking about the 796 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:34,960 public. I was thinking about the 797 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:36,399 presentation made by the representatives 798 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,520 of the way many care. 799 00:30:36,399 --> 00:30:39,200 » I understand. 800 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:41,520 » They should know about this. 801 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,240 » Well, we all should know. That's my 802 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,240 » Now we do. 803 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,720 » Now we do, right? 804 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,080 » Fantastic. 805 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:48,880 » Thank you. I have a quick follow-up 806 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:51,760 question. Sure. Um, I think this source 807 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:54,960 document here, the brochure that you 808 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:57,440 provided is really interesting and I 809 00:30:54,960 --> 00:31:00,720 just wanted to get a little bit of 810 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:04,559 information about where you found this 811 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:07,039 and um, and the author here, Peter 812 00:31:04,559 --> 00:31:09,360 Emmens, chairman of the Lloyd Lapam 813 00:31:07,039 --> 00:31:11,840 Property Committee. Um, and then we've 814 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:14,240 got committee members here. Are these 815 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:17,279 uh, is this a town commission or is this 816 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:19,679 » So, let me Yeah. So, um, Neilie can also 817 00:31:17,279 --> 00:31:22,240 talk speak to where she found it, but 818 00:31:19,679 --> 00:31:25,440 when you look at the deed, in the deed 819 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:27,600 for parcel C, it discusses creating a 820 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:30,240 five-year commission. In that 821 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:32,720 commission, she names these people to 822 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:35,200 sit on that commission. Uh, when she 823 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:37,120 names those commission members, she 824 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:39,919 named those commission members for a 825 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:43,039 period of five years to study parcel C 826 00:31:39,919 --> 00:31:46,399 and to make recommendations for its use. 827 00:31:43,039 --> 00:31:49,600 and it's all in parcel cdeed 828 00:31:46,399 --> 00:31:51,519 um that you can basically find online. 829 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:53,919 And at that point, those commission 830 00:31:51,519 --> 00:31:56,799 members then basically made those 831 00:31:53,919 --> 00:31:59,279 recommendations with that permitted use 832 00:31:56,799 --> 00:32:01,120 and basically felt that with her 833 00:31:59,279 --> 00:32:04,399 concurrence at the time because she was 834 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:07,919 still alive up until uh she was live in 835 00:32:04,399 --> 00:32:10,399 1972 when it was called New Kanan 836 00:32:07,919 --> 00:32:13,919 Healthc Care opened. It wasn't called 837 00:32:10,399 --> 00:32:16,080 Waven at the time. um that when they 838 00:32:13,919 --> 00:32:18,240 actually opened their facilities and I 839 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:21,120 actually have found the Elise agreement 840 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:23,360 between them, New Canon Healthcare and 841 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:25,440 the original 1972 842 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:27,360 discussion about what should go on 843 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:29,440 there. So these people that you see 844 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:31,440 mentioned here are basically that 845 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:34,399 committee that was formed. This is a 846 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:35,200 representation of her views essentially 847 00:32:34,399 --> 00:32:38,799 » And their views 848 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:40,480 » And their views after studying uh this 849 00:32:38,799 --> 00:32:42,640 uh parcel 850 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:44,880 » All the parcels and then the request to 851 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:46,960 basically we would they obviously were 852 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:49,519 had a conversation with her and 853 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:51,919 obviously the recommendation was she 854 00:32:49,519 --> 00:32:54,559 would like to give more remember she she 855 00:32:51,919 --> 00:32:56,240 gave everything but DNA to the town 856 00:32:54,559 --> 00:32:58,880 including the house. 857 00:32:56,240 --> 00:33:01,519 » So at that point she basically made a 858 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:05,039 decision. She says she could have gotten 859 00:33:01,519 --> 00:33:06,960 $2.5 million at the time for Parcels's 860 00:33:05,039 --> 00:33:11,039 DNE, but she decided that we could sell 861 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:14,000 it to her for 1.5. And this brochure was 862 00:33:11,039 --> 00:33:15,760 basically put out by that committee and 863 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,840 the support of the town and the town 864 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:20,320 council at the time to basically issue a 865 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:22,159 bond. 866 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,880 » Okay, fabulous. 867 00:33:22,159 --> 00:33:23,840 » Great. 868 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,200 » Thank you, Jennifer. 869 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,159 » No problem. 870 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,159 » We'll include this in the 871 00:33:26,159 --> 00:33:29,440 » Thank you, Jim. Good to see you. 872 00:33:28,159 --> 00:33:30,640 » Good to see you, too. If you have a 873 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,840 digital copy of this 874 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,120 » Oh, uh, I'll give you this 875 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,799 » That you could email. 876 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,440 » Oh, 877 00:33:34,799 --> 00:33:35,679 we do. 878 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:36,880 » Yeah, 879 00:33:35,679 --> 00:33:40,399 » That'd be great. So, then we could 880 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:42,480 attach it to the minutes for the record. 881 00:33:40,399 --> 00:33:44,080 » Thank you. Thank you. 882 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:46,640 » All right, we're running a little over 883 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:48,640 on public comment, but we perhaps have a 884 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:50,000 few more. 885 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:54,320 » Yeah, let me ask the question. Any other 886 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:57,120 public comment in the room, please? 887 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:59,279 » Hi, Michelle Crookenden. 888 00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:00,080 Oh, Michelle, we're gonna go through the 889 00:33:59,279 --> 00:34:02,480 room first. 890 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,840 » Oh, sorry. Room. My apologies. 891 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,640 » We'll be right with you, Michelle. Thank 892 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,640 you. 893 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:08,399 » Please come up. Please come up. 894 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:11,879 » Next in the room. 895 00:34:08,399 --> 00:34:11,879 » Please step over. 896 00:34:15,839 --> 00:34:20,320 » This is purely 897 00:34:18,079 --> 00:34:23,040 self-s serving and anecdotal. My name is 898 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:26,000 Sally Anne Powell. I moved to New Kanan 899 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:28,320 in um 1977 900 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:30,560 as a newlywed with my husband. We lived 901 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:32,800 here for three years on Summer Street. 902 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:34,720 Mabel Lamb sold me my house. Pete 903 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:37,760 Raymond gave me my mortgage by sitting 904 00:34:34,720 --> 00:34:40,960 in his office. We moved away in 1980 and 905 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:44,320 then we moved back in 1985. I've lived 906 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:47,200 here on um Cheese Road ever since. My 907 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:50,960 children were born here, raised here. I 908 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:53,760 should be a target population for this 909 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:57,119 proposed facility. The town of New 910 00:34:53,760 --> 00:35:01,680 Canaan basically has been my home for 911 00:34:57,119 --> 00:35:03,760 these almost 45 years. I believe that 912 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:08,079 the mulch pile or whatever we want to 913 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:09,920 call it. New new Kanan's parks have as 914 00:35:08,079 --> 00:35:13,040 we have improved them and especially 915 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:15,920 Waveny has been an integral part of my 916 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:19,359 life, my children's life. I really think 917 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:22,960 we should go back, study the documents 918 00:35:19,359 --> 00:35:25,839 that we have and make sure we keep 919 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:29,920 waving the way it is. I should be the 920 00:35:25,839 --> 00:35:32,640 person. I'm 76. My husband is 79. I'm 921 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:35,440 the one who should be be saying yes, 922 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:39,040 yes, we need something like this now. 923 00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:40,960 Well, we may we may because I've taken 924 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:44,800 care of parents, in-laws, and everything 925 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:49,440 else, but I don't think that we need to 926 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:52,800 destroy Waven, which is a jewel to uh 927 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:55,200 affect this type of facility here. There 928 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:58,160 are other ways to get this type of 929 00:35:55,200 --> 00:36:01,599 facility. Believe me, I've toured these 930 00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:04,480 facilities for parents, in-laws, and 931 00:36:01,599 --> 00:36:06,800 everybody else. there are a need but 932 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:09,599 maybe this is not the right place and I 933 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:12,400 think it behooves us here to examine 934 00:36:09,599 --> 00:36:14,880 everything very very closely. This is 935 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,839 just a personal opinion. Thank you. 936 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,200 » Fantastic. 937 00:36:15,839 --> 00:36:20,359 » Thank you very much. Very well said. 938 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:20,359 » Thank you. 939 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:24,480 » Anyone else in the room there to public 940 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:26,720 comment? 941 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:28,400 » Okay, I think we've exhausted the room. 942 00:36:26,720 --> 00:36:30,240 Um 943 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:33,119 Michelle, I heard you first. Do you want 944 00:36:30,240 --> 00:36:35,839 to jump in? Thank you, Michelle. 945 00:36:33,119 --> 00:36:38,320 » Thank you, John. Michelle Crookendon, uh 946 00:36:35,839 --> 00:36:41,440 49 Bartling Drive. I've been a resident 947 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:44,320 for 22 years. Um some of you know I also 948 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:46,160 serve as Wave Park Conservy's executive 949 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:50,160 director, but I'm really speaking as a 950 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:52,560 resident. Um here I just am going to add 951 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:55,520 a few small details that are factual, 952 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:57,200 not an opinion. Um, 953 00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:59,839 first is that the conserv few people 954 00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:01,839 have asked me if the conservancy has 955 00:36:59,839 --> 00:37:04,160 weighed in with a view or an advocacy on 956 00:37:01,839 --> 00:37:07,040 this project and we have not. We have 957 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:09,760 consciously met and decided to allow 958 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:12,480 residents to investigate, share their 959 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:15,680 views, decide what's best for the town 960 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:17,520 and we will fit in accordingly when when 961 00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:21,119 and the time is right if this moves 962 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:23,280 forward. Um, so the conservancy is not 963 00:37:21,119 --> 00:37:27,119 making any official statement at this 964 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:29,599 point. Um, however, I want to correct or 965 00:37:27,119 --> 00:37:30,960 maybe just weigh in on some things that 966 00:37:29,599 --> 00:37:32,560 I think have been in discussion, 967 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:35,440 including last night at the parks and 968 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:39,040 recreation commission meeting. Um, one 969 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:41,520 is some maybe um, misunderstandings 970 00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:43,520 around the footprint of the project, 971 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:46,000 which is often referred to as the mulch 972 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:48,800 site. The mulch site is 5 acres. the 973 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:51,599 footprint of the project as proposed is 974 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:54,079 20 acres. So, it is four times the size 975 00:37:51,599 --> 00:37:56,720 of the the mulch site. Um it's just a a 976 00:37:54,079 --> 00:37:58,480 good thing to understand. Um that 977 00:37:56,720 --> 00:38:01,440 obviously is subject to some change, but 978 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:05,680 that is the current project proposal. Um 979 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:07,599 there's been questions around how 980 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,560 » Did someone have a question? 981 00:38:07,599 --> 00:38:09,359 » No, go ahead. 982 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:10,480 » Continue, Michelle. 983 00:38:09,359 --> 00:38:11,040 » Charles, we heard you there for a 984 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,280 second. 985 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:15,520 » Questions around how affordable it is. 986 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:18,240 It's not my place to weigh in on the 987 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:20,480 economics of the project, but it is 988 00:38:18,240 --> 00:38:23,040 definitely not something that would meet 989 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:26,480 affordability tests under our, you know, 990 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:28,880 on our state requirements to uphold 991 00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:32,480 moratoriums. So, I think there's been 992 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:35,680 some side conversations about what Wave 993 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:37,680 Wave Life Care Network could do to help 994 00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:40,880 mitigate the impact that this 995 00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:43,599 development would have, but um there's 996 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:45,839 currently nothing outlined for that. 997 00:38:43,599 --> 00:38:47,920 Um, and then the other thing that I 998 00:38:45,839 --> 00:38:51,440 wanted to mention is, um, I think it was 999 00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:54,480 Neilie who mentioned that the property, 1000 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:56,400 the entirety of Wave Park is a listed 1001 00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:58,560 National Historic, 1002 00:38:56,400 --> 00:39:01,839 um, and State Historic Register property 1003 00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:04,480 and that includes all the parcels. So, 1004 00:39:01,839 --> 00:39:07,200 if it's helpful to anyone to see that, I 1005 00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:10,880 can send uh to the commission the link 1006 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:13,760 that has all the detail of the um 1007 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:16,160 application in 2019 to put us on the 1008 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:18,000 historic register, but it really does 1009 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:21,119 include I think as Neilie mentioned, 1010 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:25,200 some specific language that highlights 1011 00:39:21,119 --> 00:39:27,040 the importance of parcel E 1012 00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:28,240 in granting. 1013 00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:29,599 Very good. 1014 00:39:28,240 --> 00:39:30,800 » So, those were all those were all my 1015 00:39:29,599 --> 00:39:31,520 points. 1016 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:32,079 Thank you, Michelle. 1017 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,160 » Great. 1018 00:39:32,079 --> 00:39:36,400 » Thank you, Michelle. That link would be 1019 00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:39,200 very helpful, I think, in terms of uh 1020 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:40,960 seeing the totality of the of the of the 1021 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,920 uh application and whatever that 1022 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:44,880 response was. 1023 00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:46,640 » I'll forwarded that on after after your 1024 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:49,599 » I have a quick follow-up question, 1025 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:52,000 Michelle. Um you said that the Wave Park 1026 00:39:49,599 --> 00:39:55,440 Conservancy has not weighed in with a 1027 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:59,760 formal view on the merits of this 1028 00:39:55,440 --> 00:40:02,079 project. Uh and um we know that there's 1029 00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:04,640 a town council meeting coming up I 1030 00:40:02,079 --> 00:40:08,480 believe on the 16th where there will be 1031 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:12,000 a memorandum of understanding 1032 00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:17,359 uh proposed. Um and so do you have a 1033 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:20,320 timeline established for if or when you 1034 00:40:17,359 --> 00:40:22,560 might weigh in as an organization on 1035 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:27,200 this project? 1036 00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:30,320 » Um it's a fair question. I think 1037 00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:34,240 in short, no. But I think what what is 1038 00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:37,440 really guiding our board is that the 1039 00:40:34,240 --> 00:40:39,359 definition of I mean we have the the 1040 00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:41,119 conservancy has its own memorandum of 1041 00:40:39,359 --> 00:40:42,960 understanding with the town that was set 1042 00:40:41,119 --> 00:40:44,640 out 11 years ago when this um 1043 00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:46,480 organization was established. And 1044 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:49,280 although we're independent, everything 1045 00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:51,280 we do is advocacy. We really don't h you 1046 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:53,920 know the town the town does own the 1047 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:56,480 land. So we don't have any independent 1048 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:59,359 control of projects or pushing things 1049 00:40:56,480 --> 00:41:02,400 forward. Um but our memorandum of 1050 00:40:59,359 --> 00:41:06,079 understanding with the town does not 1051 00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:09,359 include oversight of the land on that 1052 00:41:06,079 --> 00:41:12,480 side of of Lapam Road. So we have a 1053 00:41:09,359 --> 00:41:15,520 boundary of our area of influence. And 1054 00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:18,880 for better or worse, it's within the 1055 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:20,400 lands um going to South Avenue, south of 1056 00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:23,040 the drive, the main drive through the 1057 00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:25,040 park and to Lapam Road. Um and that's 1058 00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:28,079 really been kind of our guiding force 1059 00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:31,280 here is this is outside of our scope. 1060 00:41:28,079 --> 00:41:33,359 Um, and that doesn't mean individuals on 1061 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:37,040 our board and myself don't have views, 1062 00:41:33,359 --> 00:41:39,200 but we've tried to remain circumspect 1063 00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:42,960 and allow this process to be more 1064 00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:45,760 publicly, you know, publicly weighed in. 1065 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:48,240 » So, I don't think actually, you know, 1066 00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:50,000 have a voice as an organization, but you 1067 00:41:48,240 --> 00:41:50,880 may hear individuals express their 1068 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:51,839 opinions, 1069 00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,200 » Right? 1070 00:41:51,839 --> 00:41:55,440 » Great. Thanks. Thank you. 1071 00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:58,079 » Thanks very much, Michelle. Anyone else 1072 00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:59,680 online care to weigh in? 1073 00:41:58,079 --> 00:42:00,880 Yes, 1074 00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:04,240 » Charles, go ahead. 1075 00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:07,920 » Thank you for recognizing me. Um, I'll 1076 00:42:04,240 --> 00:42:10,079 try to be very brief and that is uh I 1077 00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:11,760 speak for myself and my wife Sarah who's 1078 00:42:10,079 --> 00:42:14,079 in the room with me now. She had been on 1079 00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:17,520 the call independently on her computer. 1080 00:42:14,079 --> 00:42:20,960 We feel very very strongly that uh Waven 1081 00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:23,920 Park should be preserved precisely the 1082 00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:27,280 way it is now. that they there should 1083 00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:30,160 not be uh allowed a discussion of 1084 00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:32,640 alienating any portion of it for a hay 1085 00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:34,800 penny for a dollar, a million dollars, 1086 00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:37,599 hund00 million. 1087 00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:39,599 It's a gem. 1088 00:42:37,599 --> 00:42:42,240 We've raised our family here, by the 1089 00:42:39,599 --> 00:42:44,560 way, for Carter Street, New Cananan, 1090 00:42:42,240 --> 00:42:48,480 second oldest house in New Kanan. 1091 00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:51,200 » Place matters. It mattered to the state 1092 00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:53,440 historic preservation office and to the 1093 00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:56,400 National Trust. 1094 00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:58,240 It's their number one consideration to 1095 00:42:56,400 --> 00:43:00,160 bismerch 1096 00:42:58,240 --> 00:43:04,160 that place. 1097 00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:08,160 It would be a shame. So I would urge you 1098 00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:09,440 to conserve it precisely the way it is. 1099 00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:11,599 Thank you. 1100 00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:16,839 » Great. Thank you, Charles. 1101 00:43:11,599 --> 00:43:16,839 » Thanks, Charles. Anyone else online? 1102 00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:21,280 I think that's it, Tom. 1103 00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:23,839 » That's it. Thank you, John, for 1104 00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:24,880 coordinating that. Difficult for me to 1105 00:43:23,839 --> 00:43:26,560 do it remotely. 1106 00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:28,400 » Yeah, exactly. Exactly. 1107 00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:31,040 » So, with with that, we're going to move 1108 00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:34,240 on to the next uh agenda item, which is 1109 00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:37,359 the commission's discussion on the Wave 1110 00:43:34,240 --> 00:43:40,720 Lifeare network proposal for parcel E. 1111 00:43:37,359 --> 00:43:42,640 And again, this will be for the uh four 1112 00:43:40,720 --> 00:43:45,839 commissioners present in today's 1113 00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:47,680 meeting. Would anyone uh Any of the 1114 00:43:45,839 --> 00:43:48,800 commissioners like to start? John and 1115 00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:50,000 Susan, would you like to start with 1116 00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:50,640 comment 1117 00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:53,280 » Or discuss? I'll 1118 00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:55,040 » Start just to just to lay out that one 1119 00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:57,599 of the duties of the conservation 1120 00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:59,920 commission is to conduct research into 1121 00:43:57,599 --> 00:44:02,000 the utilization and possible utilization 1122 00:43:59,920 --> 00:44:05,920 of land in New Cananan. And that's one 1123 00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:09,040 of our only four required duties. So it 1124 00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:11,920 squarely fits within our purview to uh 1125 00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:15,599 to be taking this issue up. Um, and so 1126 00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:19,599 we are essentially required uh to uh uh 1127 00:44:15,599 --> 00:44:23,440 to look at the issue. Um, and yeah, and 1128 00:44:19,599 --> 00:44:26,560 I just want to kind of uh uh I I have a 1129 00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:28,720 I have a motion that we might um we 1130 00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:30,480 might discuss, but throw it open to 1131 00:44:28,720 --> 00:44:33,880 other people who wanted to express 1132 00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:33,880 express views. 1133 00:44:34,240 --> 00:44:38,000 » I'm sorry. Are you finished or you 1134 00:44:36,240 --> 00:44:40,079 » I'm going to come back with a with a 1135 00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:42,880 specific motion. 1136 00:44:40,079 --> 00:44:44,079 Oh, any other commissioners like to 1137 00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:45,839 jump? I didn't want to jump. 1138 00:44:44,079 --> 00:44:48,960 » No, I mean I would concur. I think that 1139 00:44:45,839 --> 00:44:52,240 is a it is a responsibility. 1140 00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:55,440 Um, and hopefully 1141 00:44:52,240 --> 00:44:59,200 if the town is going to proceed with 1142 00:44:55,440 --> 00:45:00,800 pursuing this, I think all of these 1143 00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:03,200 various 1144 00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:07,520 site restrictions need to be carefully 1145 00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:09,200 considered, openly carefully considered. 1146 00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:10,880 Um 1147 00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:13,599 and 1148 00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:18,560 I think that's a very important point I 1149 00:45:13,599 --> 00:45:22,800 guess to my comment to earlier to um one 1150 00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:26,480 of our pres uh commenters was that 1151 00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:28,720 » It seems to be glossed over in prior 1152 00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:31,520 comment. I found listening last night 1153 00:45:28,720 --> 00:45:35,200 that it didn't seem to be a key point 1154 00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:37,599 that needed to be openly considered. So 1155 00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:39,680 hopefully as you're drafting your 1156 00:45:37,599 --> 00:45:43,839 motion, 1157 00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:48,240 um I think that is our obligation. 1158 00:45:43,839 --> 00:45:51,520 » I agree. And um I also attended the 1159 00:45:48,240 --> 00:45:53,760 parks and wreck um meeting about this 1160 00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:57,280 last night and I wanted to draw 1161 00:45:53,760 --> 00:46:00,079 attention to a particular slide which I 1162 00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:02,240 can provide. Um they presented it to the 1163 00:46:00,079 --> 00:46:05,200 community last night. It was titled five 1164 00:46:02,240 --> 00:46:10,240 reasons this is worth evaluating. I 1165 00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:14,079 think um some of the uh the points they 1166 00:46:10,240 --> 00:46:15,200 made in this slide are directly in our 1167 00:46:14,079 --> 00:46:20,079 wheelhouse 1168 00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:23,440 » As stewards of uh open space. And um so 1169 00:46:20,079 --> 00:46:26,240 I want to uh specifically note number 1170 00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:29,680 three which says that the project will 1171 00:46:26,240 --> 00:46:34,880 expand public access to open space 1172 00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:39,359 that's currently a closed parcel. And um 1173 00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:41,200 I think we need a a voice in um the 1174 00:46:39,359 --> 00:46:47,280 discussion of some of these points 1175 00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:50,240 because it seems to me that uh once you 1176 00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:54,160 develop a piece of land, it's no longer 1177 00:46:50,240 --> 00:46:56,720 open space. And if this parcel's 1178 00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:59,680 considered closed because it's a mulch 1179 00:46:56,720 --> 00:47:05,520 pile, um there are other ways we can 1180 00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:08,640 open access for the public. And um so 1181 00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:11,200 there uh in in the in these discussions, 1182 00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:15,200 if if these are going to take place in 1183 00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:17,520 the town um the for selectman for 1184 00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:20,240 selectman's meeting, I think we should 1185 00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:22,000 have some role in that conversation. I 1186 00:47:20,240 --> 00:47:23,920 don't know if your motion is going to be 1187 00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:25,680 relevant to that. So, I'll save it. 1188 00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:27,920 Okay. So, I'll save that that for you. 1189 00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:31,680 But I and I also wanted to point out 1190 00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:35,040 number four, which said uh states that 1191 00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:38,800 the project will simply expand Waven 1192 00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:43,440 Park to be utilized by everyone. And um 1193 00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:46,640 I think that is worth some scrutiny um 1194 00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:49,440 because we have had 1195 00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:54,079 a year's worth of guest speakers coming 1196 00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:58,319 to this commission and um discussing 1197 00:47:54,079 --> 00:48:01,200 conservation and wildlife uh in our open 1198 00:47:58,319 --> 00:48:04,319 space. And um you know, we had our 1199 00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:07,520 firefly expert who gave us this 1200 00:48:04,319 --> 00:48:11,280 presentation about this new possible new 1201 00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:15,359 species in Waven Park that hasn't been 1202 00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:19,280 found anywhere else. Um and uh and we 1203 00:48:15,359 --> 00:48:21,520 also had a bird migration expert come in 1204 00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:25,040 and talk to us about the importance of 1205 00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:26,640 our open space uh for migrating bird 1206 00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:31,440 populations. 1207 00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:35,119 And um so the process that seems to be 1208 00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:37,599 laid out seems very swift. And if we are 1209 00:48:35,119 --> 00:48:40,559 going to if we're required to study the 1210 00:48:37,599 --> 00:48:44,000 issue, I would love to find a way to 1211 00:48:40,559 --> 00:48:45,839 incorporate some of these expert voices 1212 00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:48,800 on conservation 1213 00:48:45,839 --> 00:48:51,599 in the town of New Kanan so we can uh 1214 00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:55,280 make sure that information is brought to 1215 00:48:51,599 --> 00:48:57,280 the public and to the uh the the 1216 00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:58,880 committee that will be approving this. 1217 00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:02,480 » Yeah. 1218 00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:04,800 » Great. Um, and so John, if you have a a 1219 00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:05,440 motion prepared, I'll I'll leave it to 1220 00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,119 you. 1221 00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:09,040 » I do. I do. And Tommy 1222 00:49:07,119 --> 00:49:10,480 » And John, we'll we'll go ahead and hear 1223 00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:12,319 the motion. If there's a second on the 1224 00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:15,200 motion, then we'll open it up for 1225 00:49:12,319 --> 00:49:16,960 discussion again as you nor do in the 1226 00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:18,640 process of a motion and then we'll vote 1227 00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:21,520 on it. So, there's additional time to 1228 00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:23,839 discuss once we hear the motion. And and 1229 00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:26,400 I should preface this by saying that Tom 1230 00:49:23,839 --> 00:49:29,280 Herman worked on this specific motion, 1231 00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:30,640 but it's exactly what I would also uh 1232 00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:34,240 support, so I'll make it on my own 1233 00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:35,920 behalf since he's not here. Um, the 1234 00:49:34,240 --> 00:49:37,920 motion being moved that the New Cananan 1235 00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:40,720 Conservation Commission requests that 1236 00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:42,800 the town council formally consult with 1237 00:49:40,720 --> 00:49:45,680 the Conservation Commission prior to 1238 00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:48,079 taking any action to accept, approve, or 1239 00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:50,559 enter into any lease agreement or 1240 00:49:48,079 --> 00:49:53,280 memorandum of understanding regarding 1241 00:49:50,559 --> 00:49:55,839 the proposal by Waven Life Care Network 1242 00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:57,359 for development of parcel E of Waven 1243 00:49:55,839 --> 00:49:59,200 Park. 1244 00:49:57,359 --> 00:50:01,440 And be it further move that the 1245 00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:04,000 commission finds such consultation 1246 00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:05,520 appropriate and necessary because this 1247 00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:08,880 will take a minute for me to read so 1248 00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:11,200 bear with me. Wave park one maybe wave 1249 00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:13,040 park constitutes open space and parkland 1250 00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:17,920 subject to the commission's jurisdiction 1251 00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:19,440 and mandate under uh charter 114 and 115 1252 00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:21,680 to review and advise on matters 1253 00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:24,400 affecting the town's open space, natural 1254 00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:28,319 resources and conservation interests. 1255 00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:30,960 two, the town ordinances C11489 1256 00:50:28,319 --> 00:50:34,240 and C11-5, consultation with relevant 1257 00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:37,599 town commissions or council uh action 1258 00:50:34,240 --> 00:50:40,400 affecting land use of this character. 1259 00:50:37,599 --> 00:50:42,240 Third, the proposed continuing care 1260 00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:44,000 retirement community development would 1261 00:50:42,240 --> 00:50:45,920 result in a substantial potentially 1262 00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:48,240 irreversible change in a significant 1263 00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:50,960 parcel of parkland implicating 1264 00:50:48,240 --> 00:50:53,200 conservation values including open space 1265 00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:55,599 preservation, tree canopy, wildlife 1266 00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:57,359 habitat, and storm water management that 1267 00:50:55,599 --> 00:51:00,319 falls squarely within this commission's 1268 00:50:57,359 --> 00:51:03,200 expertise and statutory p purpose under 1269 00:51:00,319 --> 00:51:04,640 Connecticut general statutes. Fourth, 1270 00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:06,640 the land was conveyed to the town 1271 00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:08,480 subject to deed restrictions intended to 1272 00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:10,079 preserve its character as parkland and 1273 00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:12,319 the commission has an interest in 1274 00:51:10,079 --> 00:51:14,160 ensuring that any proposed use is 1275 00:51:12,319 --> 00:51:16,160 elevated against those restrictions 1276 00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:19,440 before the town council takes binding 1277 00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:21,680 action. Uh, fifth, the meaningful 1278 00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:24,240 consultation prior to a council vote 1279 00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:25,599 rather than after is necessary to allow 1280 00:51:24,240 --> 00:51:27,520 the commission's findings and 1281 00:51:25,599 --> 00:51:29,920 recommendations to actually inform the 1282 00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:32,079 council's decisions. 1283 00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:33,680 Uh lastly, be it further resolved that 1284 00:51:32,079 --> 00:51:35,359 the chair is directed to transmit this 1285 00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:37,520 resolution to the town council and to 1286 00:51:35,359 --> 00:51:40,240 request that no vote on the way lifeare 1287 00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:43,280 network proposal be scheduled until such 1288 00:51:40,240 --> 00:51:45,440 consultation has occurred. 1289 00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:49,520 So that is my lengthy motion. 1290 00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:50,559 » Okay. Do we have a second on the motion? 1291 00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:53,520 » Second. 1292 00:51:50,559 --> 00:51:55,040 » Thank you, Susan. All those in uh well, 1293 00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:56,000 we'll open up for discussion as I 1294 00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:57,839 mentioned. Um before 1295 00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:59,200 » I think it's very comprehensive. Thank 1296 00:51:57,839 --> 00:51:59,599 you. Sure is. 1297 00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:02,559 » Yeah. 1298 00:51:59,599 --> 00:52:06,240 » Uh by formally consult 1299 00:52:02,559 --> 00:52:08,640 um would that be a public hearing or 1300 00:52:06,240 --> 00:52:12,640 would that what would that look like? 1301 00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:14,240 » Uh that would be the logical way to do a 1302 00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:16,319 formal consultation would be in a public 1303 00:52:14,240 --> 00:52:18,400 hearing would be my opinion. 1304 00:52:16,319 --> 00:52:21,280 » Right. 1305 00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:24,480 No, I think it's u I I I I approve the 1306 00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:27,520 language uh in the motion. I I look 1307 00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:31,119 forward to the opportunity to um learn 1308 00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:33,119 more about the project and I think um 1309 00:52:31,119 --> 00:52:36,319 that's very consistent with the way 1310 00:52:33,119 --> 00:52:39,040 we've acted as a advisory commission in 1311 00:52:36,319 --> 00:52:40,880 the past. I recently was contacted by a 1312 00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:42,800 representative from the town of Derenne 1313 00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:46,160 who Darianne is forming a conservation 1314 00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:48,640 commission. They asked me uh how we work 1315 00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:50,880 and um I gave them a couple examples 1316 00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:52,880 from our our meetings and I used both 1317 00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:54,960 the wellwater program meeting and the 1318 00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:58,000 leaf blower ordinance meeting as an 1319 00:52:54,960 --> 00:53:00,880 example of how how we operate and I told 1320 00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:05,359 the represent from Darianne that we uh 1321 00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:07,920 typically invite uh stakeholders or 1322 00:53:05,359 --> 00:53:09,359 experts uh into our meeting to present 1323 00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:11,839 to the commission so the commission 1324 00:53:09,359 --> 00:53:14,160 becomes more informed but as a result so 1325 00:53:11,839 --> 00:53:17,839 does the public because these are public 1326 00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:20,079 meetings. We and again we did so um in 1327 00:53:17,839 --> 00:53:22,559 in those two instances and as Ann has 1328 00:53:20,079 --> 00:53:24,559 mentioned we've done it in in the past 1329 00:53:22,559 --> 00:53:26,480 in in many other instances. So I think 1330 00:53:24,559 --> 00:53:30,079 this is very consistent with that sort 1331 00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:33,760 of way we operate as an advisory uh uh 1332 00:53:30,079 --> 00:53:36,800 commission. So, I look forward to uh 1333 00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:40,240 moving forward with that idea and 1334 00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:43,760 perhaps reaching out to Russell Barkdale 1335 00:53:40,240 --> 00:53:48,240 or uh any representative from the Wavey 1336 00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:50,800 uh LifeCare network u to present to us 1337 00:53:48,240 --> 00:53:53,200 uh as a commission so that we can learn 1338 00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:56,079 a little bit more about um their 1339 00:53:53,200 --> 00:54:01,359 intentions, a bit more factf finding and 1340 00:53:56,079 --> 00:54:04,319 also uh to invite other experts uh to a 1341 00:54:01,359 --> 00:54:07,119 weigh in uh as it relates to 1342 00:54:04,319 --> 00:54:09,680 conservation open space in the town of 1343 00:54:07,119 --> 00:54:11,280 Dana. 1344 00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:13,359 » So I think we should take a formal vote 1345 00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:16,400 on the motion. 1346 00:54:13,359 --> 00:54:18,640 » Yes. And there any more comments? Well, 1347 00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:21,760 I think I I like what you just said, 1348 00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:25,520 Tom, and I wonder um do we need a motion 1349 00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:29,359 to make that happen or uh should we 1350 00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:32,480 reach out to the stakeholders 1351 00:54:29,359 --> 00:54:34,880 um and invite, you know, devote one of 1352 00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:36,880 our next meetings to the topic and make 1353 00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:41,119 sure all the stakeholders are present so 1354 00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:43,359 we can um properly ask questions and 1355 00:54:41,119 --> 00:54:46,319 learn more about the project. 1356 00:54:43,359 --> 00:54:48,079 » I I think so. And I and I I suspect 1357 00:54:46,319 --> 00:54:50,079 there's going to be some redundancy. I 1358 00:54:48,079 --> 00:54:51,760 mean, we there was a meeting la last 1359 00:54:50,079 --> 00:54:55,599 night with parks and wreck. I don't 1360 00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:57,520 think anybody would object to redundancy 1361 00:54:55,599 --> 00:55:00,559 about hearing hearing more and more 1362 00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:02,960 about this project. Information is key 1363 00:55:00,559 --> 00:55:05,760 as far as um allowing people to make 1364 00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:08,400 informed decisions. So I can I can make 1365 00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:10,880 I can reach out myself uh on that 1366 00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:14,160 matter. But I would also uh encourage 1367 00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:16,960 you to help me with u reach finding and 1368 00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:20,480 reaching out to additional uh experts on 1369 00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:22,480 the subject matter beyond u u simply 1370 00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:24,160 asking the wave lifeare network to 1371 00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:25,520 present. So we'll work on that together 1372 00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:27,599 as a commission. 1373 00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:29,920 » Yeah. Yep. I can help with 1374 00:55:27,599 --> 00:55:33,920 » I think perhaps then this speaks to the 1375 00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:36,319 fact that this proposal for town council 1376 00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:39,839 to review thisou 1377 00:55:36,319 --> 00:55:42,319 in what did you say September 9 is a 1378 00:55:39,839 --> 00:55:44,160 little premature and I think that they 1379 00:55:42,319 --> 00:55:46,160 should consider the prospect that 1380 00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:47,680 there's a lot of work to do before they 1381 00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:48,720 actually take this up. 1382 00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:51,359 » Exactly. Susan, 1383 00:55:48,720 --> 00:55:55,200 » I I I Susan, that's an excellent point. 1384 00:55:51,359 --> 00:55:58,160 I'm already hearing uh that that meeting 1385 00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:59,520 might be pushed back till October. 1386 00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:02,720 » I think so. 1387 00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:05,440 » One followup, Tom. Um John mentioned the 1388 00:56:02,720 --> 00:56:10,480 idea that we have a duty to study the 1389 00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:12,480 issue and um there may be an you know an 1390 00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:16,000 ecological study that that could be done 1391 00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:16,480 on the impact uh on the site. That's the 1392 00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:18,400 number. 1393 00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:19,760 » You do something on one parcel, it's 1394 00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:22,480 going to impact the neighboring, you 1395 00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:25,359 know, the adjacent parcels and we may 1396 00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:26,880 need funding to do a proper study. So 1397 00:56:25,359 --> 00:56:28,720 that might be something that we take up 1398 00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:31,040 in a future meeting as well. 1399 00:56:28,720 --> 00:56:33,200 » It also takes time a study like that. 1400 00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:33,839 You don't you don't whip that out in a 1401 00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:34,480 week or so. 1402 00:56:33,839 --> 00:56:34,799 » Right. 1403 00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:36,480 » Right. 1404 00:56:34,799 --> 00:56:40,599 » I mean, I would guess that this is 1405 00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:40,599 easily six months off. 1406 00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:46,160 uh some of that burden might fall on on 1407 00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:47,599 on those who are putting forward the 1408 00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:49,839 proposal. 1409 00:56:47,599 --> 00:56:52,000 » Uh so we'll talk about that 1410 00:56:49,839 --> 00:56:54,640 » As a commission. 1411 00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:58,400 » I don't know who who is 1412 00:56:54,640 --> 00:57:02,480 » Obviously it is out there. So um the 1413 00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:04,640 town council decided this was possible 1414 00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:07,119 and I think that's an issue. I don't I 1415 00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:11,680 think the proposal that will be made by 1416 00:57:07,119 --> 00:57:14,319 the wave care facility advocates or 1417 00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:18,240 professionals will probably not differ 1418 00:57:14,319 --> 00:57:20,400 hugely from what we saw but I think it's 1419 00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:22,799 the town council that needs to say that 1420 00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:23,440 this is this cannot be reviewed in this 1421 00:57:22,799 --> 00:57:25,040 way. 1422 00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:27,920 » Right. 1423 00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:31,359 Understood. 1424 00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:34,720 » Okay. Uh any other comments? 1425 00:57:31,359 --> 00:57:36,720 So, we pass this motion, Tom. Then that 1426 00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:38,559 would go to that would be a 1427 00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:39,200 communication really to the town 1428 00:57:38,559 --> 00:57:40,240 council, 1429 00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:43,599 » Correct? 1430 00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:46,480 » And um and then we would 1431 00:57:43,599 --> 00:57:48,319 wait for a response that would come to 1432 00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:49,359 you as the commissioner, as the 1433 00:57:48,319 --> 00:57:49,760 director, 1434 00:57:49,359 --> 00:57:51,440 » Chair. 1435 00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:53,440 » Chair. Sorry. Thank you. Would that 1436 00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:58,000 motion actually 1437 00:57:53,440 --> 00:58:00,720 directly request that they postpone any 1438 00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:02,319 action by the council in advance 1439 00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:02,880 » Until they until they heard from us? I 1440 00:58:02,319 --> 00:58:04,240 think that 1441 00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:05,040 » I think that language is in there until 1442 00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:08,240 they heard from us. 1443 00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:10,079 » Yeah, this is this is non-binding 1444 00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:11,680 obviously, but it is a formal request 1445 00:58:10,079 --> 00:58:12,960 from our commission. 1446 00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:15,200 » Yeah. 1447 00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:16,720 » Order to ask a question. 1448 00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:18,240 » Yes, but you have you'd have to come up 1449 00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:20,079 to the microphones because we have 1450 00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:22,079 minutes for the meeting. 1451 00:58:20,079 --> 00:58:24,079 » Yeah. This is we need to make a quick 1452 00:58:22,079 --> 00:58:25,839 this is actually 1453 00:58:24,079 --> 00:58:27,760 » Discussion with the commissioners but I 1454 00:58:25,839 --> 00:58:29,200 I'll allow a quick a quick comment if 1455 00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:32,480 » Question are you asking for an 1456 00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:35,680 environmental impact study independent 1457 00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:36,000 of um wave lifeare is that what you're 1458 00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:38,000 asking 1459 00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:38,960 » No we're we're asking to do work with 1460 00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:40,799 regard to 1461 00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:43,440 » Okay I I just didn't understand the 1462 00:58:40,799 --> 00:58:46,079 question I couldn't hear sorry 1463 00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:48,319 » Thank you all right any more discussion 1464 00:58:46,079 --> 00:58:50,000 points 1465 00:58:48,319 --> 00:58:54,160 okay with that we have a motion on on 1466 00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:58,319 the floor uh that John has uh read for 1467 00:58:54,160 --> 00:59:01,839 us. Um and we had a second on that 1468 00:58:58,319 --> 00:59:04,400 motion from an all those in favor of 1469 00:59:01,839 --> 00:59:05,760 approving the motion raise your hand or 1470 00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:09,040 say I. 1471 00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:10,960 » I. All three of us here. Yes. And Tom. 1472 00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:12,640 » All right. Very good. So, the motion 1473 00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:16,480 passes. We'll have a little work to do 1474 00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:19,119 to follow up on that, but I'll uh 1475 00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:23,440 I'll manage that. 1476 00:59:19,119 --> 00:59:24,960 So, thank you. Thank you for that. Um, 1477 00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:28,480 we're going to move on now to the next 1478 00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:30,480 agenda item, and that is um, uh, new 1479 00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:34,799 business. 1480 00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:36,640 I do not have anything on my 1481 00:59:34,799 --> 00:59:39,920 schedule as far as new business. Anyone 1482 00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:44,400 have anything they would like to add? 1483 00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:48,319 The only thing I have is um I want to 1484 00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:51,359 keep alive this uh possibility of 1485 00:59:48,319 --> 00:59:53,280 creating a social media account for this 1486 00:59:51,359 --> 00:59:56,160 commission so that we can communicate 1487 00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:59,280 directly with the public. We were 1488 00:59:56,160 --> 01:00:00,880 proposing that the ordinance 1489 00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:03,760 um 1490 01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:07,920 you know be proposed which would exp you 1491 01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:10,480 know basically update how we communicate 1492 01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:12,960 with the public. And so, um, it may not 1493 01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:15,359 be something that we can take up in in 1494 01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:16,079 we're already past five minutes, but, 1495 01:00:15,359 --> 01:00:18,079 um, 1496 01:00:16,079 --> 01:00:20,559 » Maybe, you know, with some of these live 1497 01:00:18,079 --> 01:00:23,920 issues and, uh, so many people care 1498 01:00:20,559 --> 01:00:26,400 about about this project and some of the 1499 01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:28,319 issues we're taking on, uh, in our 1500 01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:30,079 discussions, um, it would be great to 1501 01:00:28,319 --> 01:00:32,000 have an avenue for communicating 1502 01:00:30,079 --> 01:00:35,200 directly with with the public. So, I 1503 01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:38,720 want to make sure that uh stays alive in 1504 01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:40,160 our u in our agenda. 1505 01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:43,119 for future meetings. 1506 01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:46,720 » Right. Agreed. 1507 01:00:43,119 --> 01:00:49,760 » Perhaps if we were able to draft 1508 01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:52,240 something that that um embraces 1509 01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:54,480 calculates what your intent is rather 1510 01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:56,480 than we just talk about it 1511 01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:58,480 » And that would give us a point of I mean 1512 01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:59,839 I'm not sure even what that what what 1513 01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:02,000 that would look like. It would be great 1514 01:00:59,839 --> 01:01:06,160 if Tom were here, we could talk about 1515 01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:08,160 the um ordinance because uh the during 1516 01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:11,359 the summer we started we started the 1517 01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:12,240 process of taking new ordinances to the 1518 01:01:11,359 --> 01:01:13,839 um 1519 01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:16,000 » The committee that the ordinance 1520 01:01:13,839 --> 01:01:18,559 committee. I'm not sure where that 1521 01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:20,480 stands or whether that process stalled 1522 01:01:18,559 --> 01:01:25,880 out or 1523 01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:25,880 um was put on hold. Tom, maybe 1524 01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:28,000 you're your 1525 01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:30,640 » Yeah, I will follow I will follow up on 1526 01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:33,040 on that with with Okay. with Tom and and 1527 01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:35,599 the um 1528 01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:38,160 » And and also uh the town and the town 1529 01:01:35,599 --> 01:01:39,599 council and the charter commission. It's 1530 01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:41,200 not fully related to the charter 1531 01:01:39,599 --> 01:01:43,280 commission that ordinances can stand 1532 01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:45,280 outside the the revisions that have 1533 01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:48,000 already been made to the charter, but 1534 01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:50,640 it's still related and I'll follow up on 1535 01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:54,160 » Great. And I take your point, Susan, 1536 01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:56,400 that maybe this is as simple as a motion 1537 01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:57,040 we vote on in the commission in the next 1538 01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:57,359 meeting, 1539 01:01:57,040 --> 01:01:58,000 » Right? 1540 01:01:57,359 --> 01:01:59,599 » Yeah. 1541 01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:00,799 » Yeah. Yeah. 1542 01:01:59,599 --> 01:02:02,799 » I'll work on drafting. 1543 01:02:00,799 --> 01:02:06,000 » Yeah. We could dedicate uh I would think 1544 01:02:02,799 --> 01:02:07,680 dedicate perhaps a a significant part of 1545 01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:09,359 the meeting to discussion point. And 1546 01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:10,960 when we did that with uh when we talked 1547 01:02:09,359 --> 01:02:12,799 about grant writing, our next step was 1548 01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:14,880 to, you know, how do we move this into 1549 01:02:12,799 --> 01:02:17,119 action? We invited Greg Riley into the 1550 01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:20,400 room. He gave us a a nice presentation 1551 01:02:17,119 --> 01:02:22,400 on how we might work with him on on uh 1552 01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:23,839 grant writing, grant proposals. And sure 1553 01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:26,640 enough, it was just two weeks ago that 1554 01:02:23,839 --> 01:02:30,559 he sent us over, sent the commission 1555 01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:33,760 over a first sort of viable, you know, 1556 01:02:30,559 --> 01:02:36,480 um um you know, possible opportunity for 1557 01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:38,480 for grant writing for Bristo for bird 1558 01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:40,240 watching. So, you know, that's the type 1559 01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:42,480 of follow-up that, you know, follow 1560 01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:44,400 through. We we need to continue on. 1561 01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:47,680 » We can do it with this communication. 1562 01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:51,119 Yep. Great. 1563 01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:52,720 » Okay. The uh next item on the agenda, 1564 01:02:51,119 --> 01:02:56,160 and we're doing pretty well as far as 1565 01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:58,079 time with a robust sort of meeting. Just 1566 01:02:56,160 --> 01:03:01,200 seven minutes over here. Uh the next 1567 01:02:58,079 --> 01:03:05,359 item is general information. Uh we have 1568 01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:09,359 a meeting scheduled for October 8th. 1569 01:03:05,359 --> 01:03:12,799 I'll go to work in getting um guest 1570 01:03:09,359 --> 01:03:15,680 speakers for that meeting. And I suspect 1571 01:03:12,799 --> 01:03:18,240 uh that'll be in relation to the uh 1572 01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:21,119 Wavey Life Care Network proposal for 1573 01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:22,960 parcel E. 1574 01:03:21,119 --> 01:03:25,440 » Any other general information anyone 1575 01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:26,240 needs to share? 1576 01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:27,039 » Nothing here. 1577 01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:28,960 » No. 1578 01:03:27,039 --> 01:03:32,400 » Great. Thank you. Uh commission. With 1579 01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:34,079 that, I'd like to call uh to adjourn the 1580 01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:35,680 meeting. Uh can I have a motion to 1581 01:03:34,079 --> 01:03:36,079 adjurnn? 1582 01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:37,280 » John, 1583 01:03:36,079 --> 01:03:38,799 » Make a motion to adjurnn. 1584 01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:41,039 » Thank you, Ann. 1585 01:03:38,799 --> 01:03:42,240 » Oh, Susan. Thank you. All those in 1586 01:03:41,039 --> 01:03:42,799 favor? 1587 01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:43,280 » I 1588 01:03:42,799 --> 01:03:45,520 » I. 1589 01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:48,319 » Great. Thank you everyone. Productive 1590 01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:49,520 meeting. Uh thank you guests for 1591 01:03:48,319 --> 01:03:50,640 sharing. 1592 01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:53,960 » Thank you everyone for coming. 1593 01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:53,960 » Thanks Tom. 1594 01:03:55,119 --> 01:03:57,839 Humanness.